[12:28] ubuntu_apologist: any ideas? [12:28] cause I need my wifi card [12:30] oh, sorry [12:30] ummmmm [12:30] does it show up in lsmod? [12:33] um.. [12:33] idk [12:33] it used to wor [12:33] work* [12:36] does it come as a separate package? is it handled by restricted-modules? === rendero [n=rendero@unaffiliated/rendero] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:37] it worked bedefault [12:37] by* [12:37] jut sudo modprobe rw1211rw [12:37] and it worked perfectly [12:40] you fixed it, or that's the old behavior? === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@208.121-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:40] old [12:40] that was befor the kernal update [12:40] now it efuses to connect [12:40] you try booting with the old kernel? [12:41] that's probably your best bet until the new one comes out. [12:41] you can do that? [12:41] lol [12:41] yeah [12:41] um... [12:41] should be on your grub menu [12:41] can it be remade? [12:41] when it says "starting in 3 2 1" hit the key it tells you to [12:41] mine shows up all options lol [12:42] it can, but you need the kernel sources, build-essentials, and a whole bunch of other crap that probably won't be worth it, since there will prolly be a new kernel out tomorrow or the next day [12:42] lol [12:42] well, I know where to get the source [12:43] donno bout the kernal sources though [12:43] yeah, apt-source [12:43] you can snag the sources. [12:43] no, I know the site lol [12:43] is this a kernel driver or a 3rd party driver? [12:43] well, the kernal has one [12:43] but if need be I can ndis it I think [12:43] lol [12:44] since ubutnu will copile ndiswrapper [12:44] redhat wouldn't [12:44] redhat or fedora? [12:45] rh9 [12:45] hm [12:45] how old is that? [12:45] I can pull up the old error if you'd like [12:45] i am looking help for the linux 10 [12:45] idk.. [12:45] like i said [12:46] a few years lol [12:46] just boot the old kernel and be done with it until the new one. file a bug. === tretle_ [n=tretle@A-71-13.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:47] and how would I file said bug? [12:48] !bug [12:48] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots [12:50] you know what's funny? [12:51] the mozilla frontpage says welcome to fiesty [12:51] when Iknow it's not lol === ubuntu_apologist is now known as opop === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230192.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:56] just an index page update. [12:57] the excision of emily's hose === hkms [n=bardyr@83.73.217.165.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:03] hey is where any #ubuntu ops here? [01:03] hkms: #ubuntu-ops [01:04] thanks [01:04] hkms: or call !ops if it's an emergency [01:04] opop: is there a possible update for zd1211rw? [01:04] i have no idea. [01:04] how would I check, besides update manager? [01:05] stdin: that cmd was the problem :) [01:05] kousotu: apt-get install [01:05] but there is a better way [01:05] i just dont know how === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@208.121-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:06] hkms: what do you need an op for? [01:06] gnomefreak: removing a ban [01:06] http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/rss/gutsy.xml [01:06] hkms: whos where? [01:07] gnomefreak: me #ubuntu [01:07] hkms: give me a minute to pull it up [01:07] thanks :) === hkms is now known as omha [01:07] hkms: join me in #ubuntu-ops [01:08] gnomefreak: i am already there [01:08] i see [01:08] hkms: it doesn't help if I don't know what pacage to install [01:09] kousotu: it will post a line about needed upgrades [01:09] hmmmm [01:09] ah... [01:10] kousotu@demonZ:~$ sudo apt-get install [01:10] [sudo] password for kousotu: [01:10] Reading package lists... Done [01:10] Building dependency tree [01:10] Reading state information... Done [01:10] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [01:10] but I know zd needsne [01:10] needs* [01:12] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [01:12] can that be one line? [01:12] si [01:12] yea [01:12] kousotu: use pastebin [01:12] gracias [01:13] gnomefreak: I cut off spamming chan with 10 lines [01:13] && means "if the last command was successfull run the next command [01:13] especailly a non-active one [01:13] s//"/ [01:13] kousotu: use pastebin to paste please === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:14] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [01:15] gnomefreak: why would I need to in an empty channel for just a few lines === posingaspopular [n=freddy@adsl-68-72-98-66.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:15] so is anyone else experiencing very slow response for the shut down button? [01:15] kousotu: dont paste in the channel, its not empty nor can you predict when someone comes in and needs help [01:15] pace_t_zulu: no [01:16] trying to upgrade a package that is not in repos with apt is not gonna happen either [01:16] hey, im using tribe 3 and everytime i go to open 'add/remove programs' it shows a little ghost for where the program would be if it actually opened. but it never actually opens. whatsup with that? by ghost i mean, it shows a transperacy of the system trying to launch 'add/remove programs' but it never opens. whatsup with that? [01:16] ? [01:16] kousotu: zd1211rw is not a package [01:17] ah.. [01:17] posingaspopular: what video card? [01:17] well how would I get it working again? [01:17] kousotu: go to where you got it at and do what you did last time [01:17] gnomefreak: how do i get that info in the konsole? [01:17] lshw? [01:17] posingaspopular: lspci [01:17] oh duh [01:17] posingaspopular: any other GUI apps giving you issues? [01:18] nope [01:18] everything else is perfect, except for open office not opening [01:18] gnomefreak: maybe ou missed the fact I said it was pre-coded inot ubuntu? [01:19] it's an integrated intel 82801DB or something like that [01:19] kousotu: if its not working, its not in ubuntu repos, apt-get update,upgrade dist-upgrade will not help. where did you get it from to start with [01:19] posingaspopular: im guessing you have compiz running? [01:19] nope [01:19] iirc tribe3 for intels was turned on by default [01:20] gnomefreak: does it matter if i did update dist, not installing it from cd [01:20] posingaspopular: no [01:20] shouldnt [01:20] hmmm [01:20] as you saw compiz and freinds install [01:21] posingaspopular: look in ps aux to see if its running [01:21] http://omploader.org/vMWR1 [01:21] [17:43] is this a kernel driver or a 3rd party driver? [01:21] [17:43] well, the kernal has one [01:21] [17:43] but if need be I can ndis it I think [01:21] [17:43] lol [01:21] [17:44] since ubutnu will copile ndiswrapper === mode/#ubuntu+1 [+o gnomefreak] by ChanServ === kousotu [n=kousotu@ppp-68-20-6-236.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [requested] === mode/#ubuntu+1 [-o gnomefreak] by gnomefreak === kousotu [n=kousotu@ppp-68-20-6-236.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:22] posingaspopular: file a bug on ubuntu at launchpad.net i still think this is a compiz caused UI issue [01:22] wow, i got a dominican quarter as change today [01:22] kousotu: i asked you not to paste please use pastebin [01:22] gnomefreak: what command am i looking for? [01:23] you were here when I said it [01:23] posingaspopular: to see if it s running look at either top or ps aux === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:23] im in ps aux, and it has a list of commands which are running. i see amarok, screen, pidgin, which one is compix? [01:24] Pricey: any easy way to tell if compiz is running other than top,ps aux, and friends? [01:25] erm... [01:25] echo $WINDOW_MANAGER ? [01:25] crdlb: would work but compiz uses metacity [01:25] afaik [01:26] great... [01:26] epsxe wants to bebitchy... [01:26] to make the metacity settings thing work? [01:26] crdlb: i think his add/remove issue is a UI/compiz rendering issue [01:26] intel afaik compiz is default [01:27] need to know if its running to see if its causing it [01:27] donno how many lines this isgonna be.. [01:27] * Running ePSXe emulator version 1.6.0. [01:27] plugins/libcdrmooby-2.8.so: undefined symbol: XftDrawSetClipkousotu@demonZ:~/Documents/epsxe160lin$ [01:27] kousotu: stop [01:27] hey anyone know of a way to turn the mouse pointer blue? [01:27] @_@ === rockets [n=rockets@cpe-74-64-41-83.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:27] why did it try to open cdr when I sad gfx?? [01:27] databuddy: ya [01:27] databuddy: sec [01:28] databuddy: did you look in system>prefferneces>apperance [01:28] the push is for stability at this point with gutsy right? [01:28] under the mouse tab [01:28] o sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet [01:28] im gonna take a sexy screeny right after :D [01:28] gnomefreak: any ideas? [01:29] pace_t_zulu: what do you mean? as in at devel or for all around when released [01:29] kousotu: yes STOP PASTING [01:29] gnomefreak: different pointers - but i dont see an option to make it blue [01:29] databuddy: you may have to install cursor themes [01:29] gnomefreak: smartass... I meant the gfx problem [01:29] my ntfs disk won't mount consistently [01:29] kousotu: i will refuse to help you until you can obey the rules. and watch your language [01:30] posingaspopular, what's the output of: lspci|grep VGA [01:30] ? [01:30] what is the preferred method for enabling/disabling compiz in gutsy? [01:31] pace_t_zulu: system>prefferences>apperanace [01:31] appearance [01:31] thank you [01:31] yw [01:32] fine, I'll gp elsewhere to get my help since you're to busy being an asshole to help [01:32] go* [01:32] aw, man, i just found something for him, too. === sn0 [n=mrsno@unaffiliated/sn0] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:36] omploader [01:38] desktop effects isn't working for me [01:38] where can i view the log from that script? [01:40] /var/log is where most logs are kept. [01:41] just run compiz --replace in a terminal === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pace_t_zulu_ [n=jhaitas@A230156.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:44] hello? [01:44] hi [01:44] so here is the log when i do compiz --replace [01:45] so i won't spam the board with that [01:45] but i'll put the last successful line [01:46] use a pastebin [01:46] Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/compiz/libneg.so [01:46] pastebin? [01:46] !pastebin [01:46] sorry i'm a noob [01:46] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [01:46] !eatpaste [01:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about eatpaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:46] !eatpoo [01:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about eatpoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:47] is firefox3 going to make it into gusty? [01:48] Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/compiz/libneg.so [01:48] that's the last good line [01:48] just paste the full output to the pastebin [01:48] then click paste and it will give you a page you can link to here === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:49] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32563/ [01:49] is that what you need? [01:50] yeah [01:50] To fix your beryl/compiz window decorations (titlebars) with an nVidia graphics card, run sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 , then restart !X. [01:50] run that ^^ it might help === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:52] pace_t_zulu: Firefox 3 is already in gutsy, but it won't be default. It needs to be released before that happens :) === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230156.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:59] hey guys === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:01] what does "Exta Effects" add to "Normal Effects" [02:01] ? [02:01] pace_t_zulu, works now? [02:05] just had a crash [02:05] but it was working [02:05] for bout 5 min [02:05] i just re-enabled it [02:13] RAOF: it will be removed before gutsy is released is what we plan to do === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230156.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:21] am i the only one who thinks the language support icon is an eyesore? === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@c-71-225-164-164.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:27] is no one here? [02:28] im working on something === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230156.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-126-80.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:32] have i been banned from this channel? === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:33] gnomefreak: Oh, fair enough. [02:33] pace_t_zulu: your here your not banned [02:33] pace_t_zulu: No. There's just nobody here :) === posingaspopular [n=freddy@adsl-68-72-98-66.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] [02:33] RAOF: me and alexander will talk about this see how far mozilla gets with it [02:33] i was getting self conscious [02:33] am i the only one who thinks the language support icon is an eyesore? [02:34] probably [02:35] gnomefreak: Ah, cool. There have been a couple of new alpha releases it seems since the alpha 5 - are they wanted? Is anyone packaging them up? Can I help? :) [02:35] RAOF: they are all FTBFS [02:35] RAOF: im working on it as we speak [02:36] upstream has screwed up big time on thier builds so we are patching what we can and rest waiting for them to hit [02:36] Awesome. Yay upstream! [02:36] yeah :( [02:37] we had alot of builds after a5 but they crahsed due t5o upstream cario when they fixed that they broke a bunch of other crap [02:38] if all goes well you will have a7 in repos mid week === kousotu [n=kousotu@ppp-68-20-6-236.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:38] Yay [02:38] how do i increase the number of workspaces i have in gnome? [02:39] pace_t_zulu, right click on the workspace manager [02:39] no [02:39] no? [02:39] gnomefreak: care to cite the EXACT rules? [02:39] oops [02:40] i mean right click the workspace swithcer, prefs, raise amount of workspaces/ [02:40] doesn't let me increase [02:40] kousotu: yes i would please join me in #ubuntu-ops [02:40] only things i have are... [02:40] show only the current workspace [02:40] show all workspaces in: [02:40] 1 rows [02:40] pace_t_zulu, click show all workspaces in [02:41] and do what? [02:43] pace_t_zulu, you can't raise the # of workspaces? [02:43] what's the max on yours? [02:43] no just the number of rows [02:43] pace_t_zulu, the "Number of workspaces" is grayed out? [02:43] i just found it under general options in the CompizConfig Settings Manager [02:44] hmm [02:44] there is nothing regarding the number of workspaces [02:44] i have compiz fusion with the same manager i can increase to at least 16 [02:44] it just controls the number of rows in the switcher [02:45] i have that, i also have a number of wkspaces that controls the workspaces. both work here. do you see "number of Workspaces" at all in that dialog? or is it just grayed out? [02:49] not at all [02:50] try resizing the window? [02:50] can you post a screenshot of what it looks like? [02:50] k [02:50] where to [02:50] imageshack.us [02:50] http://imageshack.us/ [02:51] where do compiz screenshots save? [02:51] nevermine [02:51] usually desktop === KurtKraut [n=ktk@unaffiliated/kurtkraut] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:55] http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9721/screenshotjo9.png [02:55] there you go [02:55] oh, that is weird. what version of Ubuntu? [02:55] gutsy [02:55] current [02:56] with repos [02:56] ah i use feisty atm [02:56] did you try resizing it? [02:56] if you can [02:56] yeah, no dice [02:56] i just upgraded yesterday [02:56] odd [02:56] i've been working out a lot of kinks [02:56] and i'm just trying to make problems known [02:56] and get help solving them [02:57] let me try my Gutsy VM [02:57] if i can reproduce the problem then we can start a bug [02:57] (Won't work - you'll be needing OpenGL to reproduce) [02:57] or even if i can't, maybe it's a compiz problem [02:57] you can't change that when you use compiz [02:58] i can change it and i have compiz [02:58] :/ [02:58] if you can't i'd call it a design bug imio [02:58] imo [02:58] so you have that "workspaces on cube" or something on? [02:58] hmm not enabled atm [02:58] couldn't get it to work [02:59] brb [02:59] gonna burn one down === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h42n4c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === lasse [n=lasse@136.pool85-50-118.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 === \x6e\x65\x72\x64 [n=gaucho@200-102-92-188.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230156.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toxicity999_ [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230156.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arooni [n=chatzill@c-67-183-136-186.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:16] hey folks [03:16] how stable is tribe 3 of gibbon? [03:17] and does it deal better with the jmicron controller [03:18] arooni, i think tty job control is related to an intel chipset problem not necessarily jmicron [03:18] not very stable [03:18] i'm running it right now [03:18] it's pretty good [03:18] arooni, i dont know though. have you tried disabling JMicron. does that permit you to boot the livecd? [03:19] xtknight: i dont know how to disable jmicron [03:19] arooni, there should be an option in the BIOS [03:19] maybe, in PCI/ide pnp device configuration or similar [03:20] xtknight: dont i need jmicron though? [03:20] if i have pata/ide drives? [03:21] if you dont have another controller, yes [03:21] is your cd drive on it? [03:21] do you have a usb drive available? === Larsson-Sweden [n=Apan@h-89-233-250-208.wholesale.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:22] i only have pata drives [03:22] and i do have a usb drive [03:22] usb cd drive? [03:22] nope [03:23] they are all pata [03:23] flash/ big HD usb? [03:23] im thinking of some alternate boot methodsf [03:23] you could get another PCI IDE controller. thats what i did since i also have an unstable JMicron [03:23] until then i used a usb cd drive [03:23] sata drives are cheap too. 500gigs for $110 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:23] but youre still gonna need a cd drive [03:24] unless you use the usb flash or other methods [03:24] my cd is pata [03:24] so... are we saying that jmicron is only for pata drives? [03:24] hm [03:24] i think so [03:24] not for sata [03:24] what chipset do you have? [03:25] intel 965 [03:25] there are some jmicron sata chips also [03:25] ok [03:25] then you hook up SATA directly to the 965 [03:25] the 965 does not have pata ports, but it does have sata [03:25] right my mobo bolted on some ide ports [03:25] abit ib9 [03:25] everyone who has a 965 is in the same situation [03:25] with the jmicron or ite controller [03:25] intel did away with 'em [03:25] so, sounds like i dont want this mobo [03:25] screw intel [03:26] not worth getting rid of your mobo though [03:26] i want my ide ;p [03:26] but i dont have to pay for it [03:26] just get a Promise PCI ide controller [03:26] i can strill return it [03:26] to frys [03:26] what are you going to get that has ide ports? [03:26] none of the 965s have them unless by Jmicron [03:26] arent there mobos with ide ports [03:26] not sure [03:26] well maybe i get a different one (new chipset) [03:27] well those may have troubles with linux [03:27] newer nvidias and ATI rs700s/etc [03:27] like this one for instance: http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?detailid=692&DetailName=Specification&MenuID=44&LanID=0 [03:27] VIA PT890 & VT8237A [03:27] chipset [03:27] honestly i would rather not unplug mobo [03:27] cuz its a pain [03:28] yea i know. you can grab a pci ide controller for cheap though [03:28] I was under the impression that jmicron worked now, frankly. [03:28] not very well [03:28] ok [03:28] so what if plugin an ide pci controller card [03:28] that would work [03:28] that's what im doing [03:29] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816102027 [03:29] hey i figured out the workspaces thing [03:29] pace_t_zulu, yeah? [03:29] would that kill this problem: p5nsli asus [03:29] it happens when i enable normal effects [03:29] i mean: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off [03:29] arooni, i dont know. [03:29] probably [03:29]