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poningru...01:19
poningruis the xorg.conf being horribly broken a known bug?01:19
poningrulatest live01:19
poningruin the screen section there is extra 'Subsection "Display"' in between Depth and Modes01:20
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sebas_Hi, why is the ubuntu installation/boot/integrity check now less verbose than in previous versions?04:14
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cypherbiossebas_: because the end-user don't need verbosity?04:30
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sebas_cypherbios: yes, I thought something like that... but I would like04:35
cypherbiossebas_: for ubiquity you can start it on debug mode; for boot you can remove the quiet parameter from the correct menu.lst line; and so forth04:37
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stubLaunchpad is going down in 15 minutes for scheduled database maintenance05:51
mikmor2cjwatson: Hello.05:58
mikmor2Could someone direct me to the source related to building the Desktop distribution?06:04
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KmosLP is back11:28
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FujitsuYay.11:28
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Riddellinfinity: please give back kde4pim/3.92.0-0ubuntu1~feisty102:53
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jwendellcjwatson, around?04:13
Hobbseejwendell: it is a sunday there...04:16
jwendellHobbsee, here too :)04:16
Hobbsee:)04:16
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mattwalstonWhy are there so many how-to documents offering a fix for "slow to establish ssh connection" but a patch has not been offered?  Is this a feature that should be solved some other way?04:58
sbalneavIt's usually a dns problem.04:59
elmosbalneav: no, it's not04:59
mattwalstonsbalneav: a lot of how-to's suggest disabling GSSAPIAuthentication04:59
elmodisabling GSSAPI authentication is a suitable work around for now05:00
sbalneavelmo: Ok, I'll rephrase: every time it's been a problem for ME, it's been a dns issue :)05:00
mattwalstonelmo: Is there any reason that a patch should not be applied in  the repo05:00
elmomattwalston: (I am not the SSH maintainer but,) as I understand it, it's a complex problem that isn't just in openssh but goes all the way down the static to avahi and mdns05:00
mattwalstonelmo: oh ok, thanks05:01
elmomattwalston: because there are people who use GSSAPI and simply disabling it, especially in a stable release isn't appropriate05:01
mattwalstonelmo: good answer05:01
=== StevenK idly wonders how elmo got static instead of stack
elmoStevenK: because I'm a muppet05:01
StevenKelmo: :-)05:01
StevenKelmo: Too much C coding?05:01
elmoStevenK: no, just a random malapproprism - the world's thankfully avoided me using C for the most part05:02
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asacHobbsee: huh?06:07
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Hobbseeasac: any idea if the new thunderbird is majorly unstable for everyone, or just for me?06:10
Hobbseeparticularly with enigmail, which looks out of date06:10
asachmm ... not heard of any instability issues so far06:10
asacwill keep my eyes open when reading bug mail06:11
Hobbseeok06:11
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asacHobbsee: are you using our package at all :) ?06:11
Hobbseeasac: yes, i have been ever since i told you06:11
asacstgraber: thats good news06:11
asacHobbsee: ok cool ... so what happens for you?06:11
Hobbseeasac: and our enigmail, and it's been unstable ever since the tb update06:11
Nafallomaybe Hobbsee uses automatix...06:12
Hobbseeasac: window only partially redraws, thunderbird freezes, nothing useful in console output06:12
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asacHobbsee: hmmm ... desktop effects?06:12
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Hobbseeasac: nope - kubuntu06:12
elkbuntulol06:12
asacHobbsee: hmm ... ok ... I will come back when i read bugmail :)06:13
Hobbseeasac: cool :)06:13
asacHobbsee: what versions do you have?06:13
Hobbseeasac: latest gutsy06:13
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Hobbseeoh *neat*.  thunderbird doesnt even start now06:13
pygi:D06:13
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Nafallo_that_ was confusing. should have shown something in win 1 :-P06:14
Hobbseewhy, with a purged thunderbird and enigmail, and the .thunderbird/ moved out the way, would thunderbird not start?06:14
HobbseeNafallo: it usually does06:14
Nafalloyes. that's what's strange :-)06:14
Nafalloit didn't06:14
Hobbseeasac: absolutely no idea if this is helpful to you, or if i've called it right, but http://rafb.net/p/QmgCYQ99.html is thunderbird strace, then xkilled at the end06:19
Hobbseemight be a starting point06:20
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pyginight Hobbsee06:21
asacHobbsee: sleep well06:21
Hobbseewill do06:21
asacHobbsee: need strace -f06:21
asacas tbird forks a process right in the beginning ... just strace usually doesn't yield anything :)06:21
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aaroncampbellHow can I find out who maintains the eclipse packages for kubuntu?  It seem that there is a problem, because I keep getting "IDEWorkbenchPlugin for bundle org.eclipse.ui.ide is invalid" but I can use the version I download from the eclipse site07:47
Kopfgeldjaegertry launchpad.net07:48
desrtaaroncampbell; you can usually get a good idea by looking at the changelog for the package07:49
geserthere is only one eclipse for kubuntu and ubuntu07:49
desrtaaroncampbell; check in /usr/share/doc/[pkg name] /changelog.Debian.gz07:49
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aaroncampbellthanks08:03
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Monk-eCan anybody tell me why debhelper does a 'cat configure.sh>configure' if it (sometimes) finds a configure.sh file?08:32
Monk-e(or actually pbuilder does it, but debhelper sets it up afaik)08:33
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Riddellpitti: ping10:47
Riddellok if I upload restricted-manager with kde stuff merged?10:47
pittiRiddell: I guess that changes some bits in the core and gtk implementation?10:48
Riddellpitti: yes10:48
pittiRiddell: if so, I'd like to give this some testing and review first, if you don't mind?10:48
Riddellsur10:49
Riddellsure10:49
Riddellit's in the k-r-m branch now10:49
pittiah, cool10:49
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Riddell21:48 < pitti> Riddell: I guess that changes some bits in the core and gtk implementation?10:49
Riddell21:48 < Riddell> pitti: yes10:49
Riddell21:48 < pitti> Riddell: if so, I'd like to give this some testing and review first, if you don't mind?10:50
Riddellmhb: ^^10:50
pittihi mhb10:50
mhbhi Riddell, pitti10:50
mhbpitti: of course10:51
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mhbRiddell: is there something wrong with adept?10:55
mhbRiddell: libapt-pkg-libc6.6-6-4.4 breaks adept-batch, which breaks restricted-manager-kde10:56
Riddellmhb: not that I know of, although mvo uploaded a new apt version recently10:56
Riddelldo you have the latest adept?10:56
mhbRiddell: I cannot install it10:56
geserwhy?10:57
mhblike I said:   adept-manager: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.6-6-4.4 but it is not installable10:57
geserwhich version of adept?10:57
Riddellhmm, the new adept doesn't seem to have got through10:57
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nixternalI installed adept fine on my laptop and my amd64 desktop today10:58
geseradept 2.1.3ubuntu4 is a rebuild for the new apt10:58
makkalotHi all i need to know how it is done the signing and verification of deb packages,i want to develop something similar based on public key infrastructure for another linux distribution,can someone point me a documentation or the software that does that job in ubuntu?10:59
Riddell"gutsy amd64  Failed to build"  do you have an amd64 mhb?10:59
mhbRiddell: yes10:59
Riddellmakkalot: it's just gpg10:59
Riddellmhb: that'll be it then10:59
Riddellpitti: could you give back adept on amd64, libept should be installable now11:00
makkalot<Riddell>: isnt there a software which manages all the stuff for example certification etc11:00
pittiRiddell: done11:01
nixternalahh, ya, my amd64 box doesn't have adept anymore...yay! :)11:01
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Riddellmakkalot: as I say, it's just gpg verifying the signature on the md5sum, there's dozens of gpg tutorials on the web11:05
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mhbpitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~martin.bohm/restricted-manager/k-r-m11:06
mhboh rats11:07
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