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| Jazzva | Can a bug have both mt-needtestcase and mt-needtester tags? | 02:51 |
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| gnomefreak | Jazzva: testcase forst | 02:54 |
| gnomefreak | first | 02:54 |
| gnomefreak | to make our life easier | 02:54 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak: Hmm... Well, I came across a bug that is tagged with both tags. That's why I asked :/... | 02:55 |
| Jazzva | bug 41294 | 02:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 41294 in firefox "Monospace fonts are displayed as proportional" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41294 | 02:55 |
| gnomefreak | Jazzva: ill look | 02:55 |
| Jazzva | Ok :)... | 02:55 |
| gnomefreak | done | 02:58 |
| Jazzva | Coll... | 03:04 |
| Jazzva | *Cool | 03:04 |
| gnomefreak | ok set firefox a7 to build ill look at it in morning if it fails, im out for the night | 03:09 |
| Jazzva | Have fun... | 03:10 |
| gnomefreak | you too | 03:10 |
| Jazzva | Will try :)... | 03:11 |
| Jazzva | *edit: Will try (to catch some sleep) :)... | 03:11 |
| gnomefreak | update: looks like firefox-trunk will work out if so i will spin granparadiso as well and give to asac for upload | 04:37 |
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| Jazzva | gnomefreak: What's granparadiso? | 05:14 |
| Jazzva | If someone could take a look at bug 107261. It's a known bug upstream, said that it'll be fixed in FF3, but still has a mt-needtester tag. I think it should be tagged with mt-confirm, but I'm not sure (a beginner :)). | 05:19 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 107261 in firefox "Hebrew Vowels Incorrectly Placed in Firefox" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107261 | 05:19 |
| Jazzva | Off to sleep... | 05:49 |
| Admiral_Chicago | Jazzva: firefox 3 while in development | 05:52 |
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| gnomefreak | asac: trunk almost builds :) | 11:12 |
| gnomefreak | so close i can taste it :( | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | something is wrong with this. how in the hell is debian/tmp empty | 11:24 |
| gnomefreak | son of a bitch that where i saw that error before | 11:30 |
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| gnomefreak | i cant see what we did to fix that error | 11:36 |
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| Jazzva | Thanks Admiral_Chicago :) | 01:56 |
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| gnomefreak | ok this is getting weird now :( | 02:21 |
| Jazzva | The building? | 02:21 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 02:21 |
| gnomefreak | upstream had to of changed something im not seeing | 02:21 |
| gnomefreak | gonna rebuild to see if a fluke | 02:21 |
| gnomefreak | with 20070804 build | 02:22 |
| Jazzva | Good luck... | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | asac: sorry wanted this ready for upload for when you got home for monday but i doubt it | 02:22 |
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| asac | ok i am more or less avail :) | 06:07 |
| Jazzva | Welcome back... | 06:08 |
| hjmf | hi | 06:08 |
| Jazzva | asac: I have a few questions... I'll be back in a minute... | 06:08 |
| asac | sure | 06:08 |
| asac | ... but remember that i am more or less in minor mode today ;) | 06:08 |
| Jazzva | It's ok, just 2 or 3 minor bug questions :) | 06:13 |
| hjmf | I have one quick question too :); in the retrace of bug #129415 there really are garbage characters or do I have a problem with locales or somewhat? | 06:14 |
| ubotu | Bug 129415 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/129415 is private | 06:14 |
| hjmf | I cannot read first stacks of the stacktrace | 06:15 |
| hjmf | the same when I retrace here at home | 06:15 |
| Jazzva | asac: Well, here are my questions, take a look when you have time :)... | 06:18 |
| Jazzva | Bug 107261: Marked as In Progress, like upstream, but still has mt-needtester tag. I wasn't sure if retagging with mt-confirm is the right thing... | 06:19 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 107261 in firefox "Hebrew Vowels Incorrectly Placed in Firefox" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107261 | 06:19 |
| hjmf | I'll be back in half an hour or so | 06:20 |
| Jazzva | Bug 81543: I think I found out why the Preferences get truncated (left in comments). And I think it's confirmed... but again, wasn't sure if I should retag it with mt-confirm. | 06:21 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 81543 in firefox "Firefox child windows width too small (german version)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81543 | 06:21 |
| Jazzva | It might be an upstream bug :/ | 06:21 |
| Jazzva | And bug 72812: Has both mt-needtester and mt-needtestcase. Isn't that wrong *unsure*? | 06:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 72812 in firefox "Firefox does not display new page after click." [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72812 | 06:22 |
| asac | Jazzva: you can always tagg mt-confirm if you want feedback from me | 06:22 |
| asac | e.g. mt-confirm is ment to be a staging tag you should set if you think you are done with current state but are not yet sure | 06:22 |
| Jazzva | Oh... Ok. | 06:22 |
| asac | In Progress ... though doesn't have any tags atm | 06:23 |
| asac | so feel free to remove any tag you find at that stage | 06:23 |
| asac | its in fact a "triaging bug" if "In Progress" bugs have a tag at all | 06:23 |
| asac | e.g 107261 is on track in upstream bug | 06:23 |
| asac | so its usually more or less done from ubuntu point of view... which is why its "In Progress" | 06:24 |
| asac | bug 107261 | 06:24 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 107261 in firefox "Hebrew Vowels Incorrectly Placed in Firefox" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107261 | 06:24 |
| Jazzva | Mhm, but shouldn't it be untagged if it's in progress? | 06:24 |
| asac | yeah | 06:24 |
| asac | definitly | 06:25 |
| asac | its like i call it a "triaging bug" | 06:25 |
| Jazzva | And tagged with mt-confirm? | 06:25 |
| asac | no "in progress" has no tags at all | 06:25 |
| asac | so just remove it | 06:25 |
| asac | http://daniel.holba.ch/bugs/ | 06:25 |
| Jazzva | What's the "triaging" part of that bug? :) | 06:25 |
| asac | Jazzva: well its done :) | 06:26 |
| asac | Jazzva: its been submitted upstreawm ... upstream has someone assigned to it | 06:26 |
| asac | so from ubuntu its just "look and see that upstream makes progress" | 06:26 |
| asac | of course ... anybody can take a look and see if he can help upstream fixing this | 06:26 |
| Jazzva | Oh, ok... I thought there is maybe something else to be triaged about it :)... | 06:26 |
| asac | the page above is a bughelper result ... among other things it tries to list bugs that have bad tag/state combinations | 06:27 |
| asac | some false-positives, are in that list though | 06:27 |
| asac | Jazzva: no ... not for that bug ... its in progress in that upstream deals with it | 06:27 |
| Jazzva | bughelper results... I think I read about it somewhere, though I completly forgot... :) | 06:28 |
| Jazzva | Aaaah... firefox.html looks nice :). | 06:28 |
| asac | Jazzva: yeah ... bughelper allows you to do multiple things | 06:28 |
| asac | we maintain a firefox clue file ... but Admiral_Chicago can tell you more about that | 06:29 |
| asac | main purpose is auto-detection of duplicates + detecting bugs that are not properly tagged ... as that often indicates that some user or unexperienced triager did something ... which is often enough wrong | 06:29 |
| Jazzva | I see... | 06:30 |
| Jazzva | And that clue file is firefox.html? | 06:30 |
| asac | no the clue file is a rule file for bughelper ... which produces firefox.html as a result | 06:31 |
| asac | basically you can match things ... and print infos for bugs that match some conditions | 06:31 |
| asac | but ask Admiral_Chicago about that ;) ... he is bughelper guru | 06:32 |
| Jazzva | Ok, when he gets back... | 06:32 |
| asac | Jazzva: usually firefox.html just gives you a list of bugs that need some attention | 06:32 |
| asac | thats all you need to know as a triager too start with :) | 06:32 |
| Jazzva | That's what I wanted to say :)... | 06:32 |
| Jazzva | asac: Two more questions :)... | 06:34 |
| Jazzva | Aren't mt-needtester and mt-needtestcase in XOR relation? | 06:35 |
| Jazzva | As in there can be only mt-needtester or mt-needtestcase, but not both... | 06:35 |
| asac | well ... usually yes | 06:36 |
| asac | but practically it might be that you want people to test an existing testcase, while you still search for a more reproducible one | 06:37 |
| Jazzva | Ok... | 06:37 |
| asac | but yes ... bugs that have both might need to be worked on | 06:37 |
| asac | at least they are worth a look | 06:37 |
| asac | e.g. is there a step by step testcase in summary? | 06:37 |
| asac | has this testcase already been verified to "not reproduce it" ... et al | 06:38 |
| Jazzva | I see... I'll take a look.\ | 06:38 |
| Jazzva | asac: And about bzr... I read the wiki, tried out pulling the sources, everything went well :). I read about pushing, still didn't try it out. | 06:40 |
| Jazzva | So, you want me to send the packages I prepare to bazaar? | 06:40 |
| asac | Jazzva: yes | 06:44 |
| asac | please | 06:44 |
| asac | its pretty good to review et al | 06:44 |
| Jazzva | Hmm, ok... | 06:44 |
| Jazzva | I finished packaging gnome-voice-control last night and uploaded to REVU... Wasn't sure about bzr, but I'll upload it now. So, the address would be sftp://jazzva@bazzar.launchpad.net/~jazzva/gnome-voice-control/<branchname>? | 06:46 |
| Jazzva | asac: And what's the right branchname? | 06:46 |
| asac | Jazzva: yes ... you have to register a project for gnome-voice-control | 06:48 |
| asac | then you can push it | 06:48 |
| Jazzva | Mhm... And I should push only source? | 06:48 |
| asac | if you push with debian/ directory we usually call branchname: "debian" ... or "ubuntu" | 06:48 |
| asac | if its just plain upstream sources then its "upstream" | 06:48 |
| Jazzva | Ok... thanks :) | 06:49 |
| Jazzva | Should I report to you once I'm done? | 06:49 |
| asac | Jazzva: yes always only sources please | 06:49 |
| asac | never push binaries ;) | 06:49 |
| asac | Jazzva: sure | 06:49 |
| asac | just tell me the branchname you want to get reviewed | 06:49 |
| Jazzva | Ok :). | 06:49 |
| asac | at best send a mail | 06:49 |
| asac | so in case i don't have time right away, I won't forget it | 06:50 |
| asac | :) | 06:50 |
| Jazzva | Understood :D. | 06:50 |
| asac | but usually i should be able to do a look within a few hours | 06:50 |
| asac | initial upload might be different, because check needs to be more thoroug | 06:50 |
| asac | h | 06:50 |
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| Jazzva | Mail it is :). | 06:50 |
| Jazzva | asac: Here is the link: https://code.launchpad.net/~jazzva/gnome-voice-control/ubuntu | 07:07 |
| Jazzva | Will send a mail too... :) | 07:07 |
| asac | Jazzva: its pretty important that you have an upstream branch as well | 07:12 |
| Jazzva | asac: BTW, how can I set the name and e-mail for Bzr? | 07:12 |
| Jazzva | asac: Uh-huh... I'll upload it now :) | 07:13 |
| asac | and since it won't help you when merging new upstream releases | 07:13 |
| asac | you have to take care | 07:13 |
| asac | that your ubuntu branch is initially branched from that upstream branch | 07:13 |
| asac | which you didn't do | 07:13 |
| asac | (i guess | 07:13 |
| asac | ) | 07:13 |
| asac | so ... start with the upstream branch | 07:13 |
| asac | add the debian directory in another commit | 07:14 |
| asac | and push that buranch to <ubuntu> again | 07:14 |
| Jazzva | You mean, to upload the upstream branch, then download that one, put in debian and upload as ubuntu or debian? | 07:14 |
| asac | yes | 07:14 |
| Jazzva | Ok | 07:14 |
| asac | its important that both branches have the same root | 07:14 |
| asac | otherwise you cannot really merge later | 07:14 |
| asac | you can use --overwrite on push ... to overwrite your current ubuntu branch | 07:14 |
| Jazzva | Cool :) | 07:15 |
| asac | if you have both branches up (upstream + ubuntu) let me know :) | 07:15 |
| Jazzva | Ok | 07:15 |
| Jazzva | And how can I set e-mail and name? | 07:15 |
| Jazzva | Currently it's "Sasa <sasa@SID>" | 07:15 |
| asac | wait a sec | 07:17 |
| asac | read man bzr | 07:17 |
| asac | its on bottom i guess | 07:17 |
| Jazzva | Ok | 07:17 |
| asac | you have to set env variables | 07:17 |
| asac | BZR_EMAIL it is | 07:17 |
| Jazzva | Ok, thanks :)... | 07:17 |
| asac | but it uses EMAIL alone if the BZR_ is not set | 07:18 |
| asac | interesting is that i don't have any set, but it works for me :) | 07:18 |
| Jazzva | Lucky you :) | 07:18 |
| asac | i think it needs to be name + email in that env | 07:19 |
| Jazzva | bzr whoami | 07:19 |
| Jazzva | :) | 07:19 |
| asac | e.g. EMAIL="Alexander Sack <asac@jwsdot.com>" | 07:19 |
| Jazzva | To show or set user id :D | 07:19 |
| asac | yeah you can set the id as well | 07:20 |
| asac | with bzr config i guess | 07:20 |
| asac | agh | 07:20 |
| asac | now i see :) | 07:20 |
| asac | in ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf | 07:20 |
| asac | i have | 07:20 |
| asac | [DEFAULT] | 07:20 |
| asac | email = Alexander Sack <asac@jwsdot.com> | 07:20 |
| Jazzva | I was looking for that, but there wasn't one in .bazaar *sighs*... Maybe because I still didn't run bzr config or something *doh*... | 07:20 |
| asac | yeah .. try bzr config :) | 07:21 |
| Jazzva | Doesn't work... bzr whoami 'name <mail>' | 07:21 |
| Jazzva | :) | 07:21 |
| asac | well ... i think you will figure out :) | 07:23 |
| asac | if nothing works, you can use env variable :) | 07:23 |
| Jazzva | This one is working :) | 07:23 |
| Jazzva | ...at least, for now | 07:23 |
| asac | hehe | 07:24 |
| asac | ok out for a while ... dinner et al | 07:33 |
| Jazzva | asac: Uploaded both upstream and ubuntu :). | 07:42 |
| Jazzva | Out for a dinner and a bit of studying... see you later. | 07:42 |
| asac | sure ... will look later | 07:49 |
| Jazzva | asac: Thanks :)... | 08:21 |
| Jazzva | BTW, I just tried granparadiso-alpha7 now... It seems a lot faster then FF2. Gmail's interface can cause FF2 stop responding for a few seconds. On gp nothing :D... It's all smoother. | 08:23 |
| Jazzva | Well, back to studying... | 08:23 |
| Admiral_Chicago | Jazzva: i can tell you about bughelper later, I'm fairly busy today | 09:40 |
| Jazzva | Back | 10:54 |
| Jazzva | Admiral_Chicago: Thanks, I'll see what can I find on Bughelper and to get prepared :). | 10:55 |
| asac | yeah ... we should try to get paradiso 7 packaged ... last trunk builds crashed for us though | 11:06 |
| Jazzva | asac: Packed for Gutsy? | 11:12 |
| Jazzva | Well, it crashed once for now... On Demonoid. | 11:13 |
| asac | Jazzva: hey | 11:23 |
| asac | one question: why do you build-depend on gnome-devel? | 11:23 |
| asac | can you try to do it more fine grained? | 11:24 |
| asac | PKG_CHECK_MODULES(GNOME_PANEL, libpanelapplet-2.0 gtk+-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 gstreamer-0.10 gstreamer-base-0.10 gdk-2.0 libwnck-1.0 cspi-1.0) | 11:24 |
| Jazzva | Hmm, I think it's reported in INSTALL... | 11:24 |
| asac | thats what i see in configure.ac | 11:24 |
| asac | i guess adding the -dev packages from those should be good enoug | 11:24 |
| Jazzva | Ok, I'll try that and see if it builds | 11:24 |
| asac | should | 11:24 |
| asac | otherwise ad those missing | 11:25 |
| Jazzva | Didn't know for that :)... | 11:25 |
| asac | using gnoma-devel doesn't sound right ;) | 11:25 |
| asac | Note: those meta -devel packages are not ment for package dependencies | 11:25 |
| asac | its for developers that want to do arbitrary gnome development | 11:25 |
| asac | at least thats what used to know ;) | 11:25 |
| asac | if it build please push update to bzr | 11:26 |
| Jazzva | used to know? | 11:26 |
| Jazzva | Well, I'll give it a try in a minute (waiting for computer to finish something)... | 11:26 |
| asac | sure | 11:29 |
| Jazzva | asac: Just to edit files in the directory I pulled from bazzar? (the one where I put debian/) | 11:32 |
| asac | yes | 11:35 |
| asac | you can edit there | 11:35 |
| asac | then commit changes | 11:35 |
| asac | if you are happy with your commits you can push again | 11:35 |
| Jazzva | Ok | 11:36 |
| asac | but please take the habbit to have nice per-feature checkins | 11:36 |
| Jazzva | per-feature checkins? | 11:36 |
| asac | e.g. commit locally ... reorganize your branch locally before you push :) | 11:36 |
| asac | not that important :) | 11:36 |
| asac | its just to prevent micro-checkins | 11:36 |
| asac | which make it hard to track back regressions | 11:36 |
| asac | its not important :) .... but i take every oppertunity to talk this in to people := | 11:37 |
| Jazzva | Umm... I don't think I understand you :)... | 11:37 |
| Jazzva | Well, I'm listening :)... But just don't get the meaning of "micro-checkin" | 11:37 |
| asac | well ... most people use cvs et al just to get versioned backups | 11:37 |
| asac | so they checkin whatever they have at some point | 11:37 |
| asac | sometimes they just checkin a bunch of unrelated things from top level | 11:37 |
| asac | et al | 11:38 |
| asac | sometimes they check in test revisions as a kind of checkpoint | 11:38 |
| asac | since you don't commit directly to online repository you have the chance to reorganize your checkins so they are clean | 11:38 |
| asac | with bzr | 11:38 |
| asac | you see what i mean? | 11:38 |
| Jazzva | Mhm :) | 11:38 |
| Jazzva | So, to check everything I can before pushing, and not to upload for every little change... | 11:39 |
| Jazzva | Right? | 11:39 |
| asac | hmm | 11:39 |
| asac | no idea | 11:39 |
| asac | just use it | 11:39 |
| Jazzva | lol... | 11:40 |
| asac | if i see a pattern which i put into one of those two types I will let you know :) | 11:40 |
| Jazzva | Ok | 11:40 |
| Jazzva | :) | 11:40 |
| asac | hehe | 11:40 |
| asac | finally those are your branches ;) | 11:40 |
| Jazzva | One more question... I read before about ${misc:Depends}, but I couldn't find it after that... What does it stand for? | 11:41 |
| asac | its a debhelper variable | 11:43 |
| asac | you can add specific depends during build by setting those variables | 11:43 |
| asac | actually i think its used by debhelper tools that don't belong to other categories like perl et al | 11:45 |
| asac | afaik debconf is one example? | 11:45 |
| asac | e.g. debconf dependency is added automatically if you use debconf in your scritps? | 11:46 |
| Jazzva | Hmm, supposed to | 11:46 |
| asac | but ... this is all is dubious to me too | 11:46 |
| asac | :) | 11:46 |
| asac | would have to look | 11:46 |
| asac | basically its a just a debhelper variable | 11:46 |
| Jazzva | This one uses automake, and it debhelper added autotools... | 11:46 |
| asac | he? | 11:47 |
| asac | to depends? | 11:47 |
| Jazzva | Build-Depends :) | 11:47 |
| asac | yeah | 11:47 |
| asac | but thats not ${mis:depends} :) | 11:47 |
| Jazzva | So, I figured it uses the same thing for Depends | 11:47 |
| Jazzva | or something like that... | 11:47 |
| Jazzva | "the same thing" = "the same way of getting dependencies sorted out"... | 11:48 |
| asac | well ... its the same ... and not | 11:48 |
| asac | depends are mostly automatically detected | 11:48 |
| asac | while build-depends are usually manually | 11:48 |
| Jazzva | I see.... | 11:49 |
| asac | depends are automatic at least for shared libraries linked into any of your binary/library | 11:49 |
| Jazzva | Hmm... I'm getting some errors :/ | 11:53 |
| Jazzva | Something like "dpkg-source: cannot represent change to .bzr/repository/knits/57/potfiles.skip-20070805165354-v7ytazn1plhvpf7q-55.knit: binary file contents changed" | 11:54 |
| Jazzva | When I try to build the source | 11:54 |
| Jazzva | Uh-huh... there is a hidden .bzr directory... | 11:56 |
| Jazzva | asac: So, I have to build sources in a directory that is not used for uploading to bazaar. | 11:57 |
| Jazzva | asac: Ok, found a way to make it work :). No problem anymore :) | 11:58 |
| asac | Jazzva: there is bzr-builddeb | 11:59 |
| asac | you should take a look at it | 11:59 |
| asac | its pretty great to build packages that way | 11:59 |
| asac | its a package | 12:00 |
| Jazzva | Hmm... Ok, will do it, after pbuilder finishes updating :). | 12:00 |
| Jazzva | asac: I installed it and took a quick look at readme file. Is "bzr-buildpackage --builder='debuild -S -rfakeroot'" and then to test it "bzr-buildpackage --builder='pbuilder-gutsy build ../*.dsc'" a legal way to do the building? | 12:23 |
| asac | depends on what you want todo :) | 12:24 |
| asac | actually i have i don't use pbuilder that much so i can't tell | 12:24 |
| asac | but yes | 12:24 |
| Jazzva | To build a source package which I will use to test in chroot :)... | 12:24 |
| asac | i usually do | 12:24 |
| asac | bzr bd --merge . | 12:24 |
| asac | which requires a orig.tar.gz i tarballs directory | 12:24 |
| asac | next to your checkout dir (in case you don't tweak config) | 12:24 |
| asac | in your case I do a bzr bd --export-upstream=../gnome*.upstream --merge . | 12:25 |
| asac | on first time | 12:25 |
| asac | then copy created orig.tar.gz from build-area to tarballs | 12:25 |
| asac | but just when new upstream release is out | 12:25 |
| asac | otherwise i will reuse the orig.tar.gz generated | 12:25 |
| asac | so ... | 12:26 |
| Jazzva | Ok... I think I need to play a bit more with this thing to get used to it :)... | 12:26 |
| asac | bzr-buildpackage --builder='pbuilder-gutsy build ../build-area/*.dsc' might work | 12:26 |
| asac | sure | 12:27 |
| asac | its a matter of preference | 12:27 |
| asac | usually its smart to have one directory where you put all your bzr branches | 12:27 |
| asac | then you have one tarballs directory where you have all your tarballs etc. | 12:28 |
| asac | at least i found it smart ;) | 12:28 |
| Jazzva | Hmm, I think I have something like that | 12:28 |
| Jazzva | ~/bzr/upstreams/ for upstream sources | 12:28 |
| Jazzva | and ~/bzr/ubuntu for branches | 12:28 |
| asac | yeah ... you can reconfigure it | 12:28 |
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