[02:24] <xjkx> cant make cups work !!
[02:25] <xjkx> No f-- password works on admin thing
[02:26] <Melquiades> lol
[02:26] <Melquiades> i remember that being a problem
[02:30] <xjkx> :<
[02:31] <xjkx> it sounds like a bug, it should come perfectly usable
[02:45] <Melquiades> i don't think it's a bug, i think i was doing something noobish
[02:45] <Melquiades> it's been a long time though
[02:56] <pfein> If I have a fresh Ubuntu (ie, Gnome) install + a Xubuntu Desktop CD, how can I get xubuntu-desktop installed?
[02:57] <Melquiades> there is a way to basically do this w/out even using the cd
[02:57] <Melquiades> you have to replace gnome with kfce
[02:57] <Melquiades> it looks different but it is essentially the same thing
[02:58] <Melquiades> the easiest option is just to install xubuntu and then add the ubuntu elements you need
[02:58] <pfein> Melquiades: no, I *want* to use the CD, I don't have net access on the target yet
[02:58] <pfein> nm
[03:00] <Melquiades> and I'm supposed to know that?
[03:00] <Melquiades> LOL
[03:05] <mkquist> pfein - just add the cd to your repositories in package manager
[03:05] <mkquist> pfein - then u can just sudo-apt get it
[03:05] <pfein> mkquist: yup, figured it out.  & discovered apt-cdrom
[03:05] <pfein> ;)
[03:05] <mkquist> k
[03:13] <Wankus> Hi, whats the best way to connect to a wireless network (wpa encryption) through a xubuntu laptop? Network-manager?
[03:13] <vidd_laptop> yes
[03:14] <Wankus> so ,its "sudo aptitude install network-manager" ?
[03:14] <vidd_laptop> no.....network-manager is pre-installed
[03:15] <Wankus> it is? how do i find it, I'm on feisty?
[03:15] <pfein> mkquist: so I've got the cd in my sources.list, but xubuntu-desktop is unknown to apt-get/apt-cache
[03:15] <vidd_laptop> applications>system>network
[03:16] <Wankus> I tried that, but I couldn't use wpa for it.
[03:16] <Wankus> jus wep
[03:17] <vidd_laptop> hrm..then idk
[03:17] <vidd_laptop> =\
[03:17] <Wankus> can you use wpa in yours?
[03:18] <vidd_laptop> never tried
[03:18] <Wankus> ok, thanks for the help anyways
[03:30] <mkquist> pfein - try xfce and see what happens
[03:34] <pfein> mkquist: oops, go frustrated & turned it off.  maybe later. thx tho.
[03:34] <pfein> how does one get those "tasks" tho?
[03:34] <pfein> nm
[05:18] <ircusr> hi
[05:57] <Jester45> hi
[06:03] <ircusr> sup
[06:08] <pfein> yo
[06:09] <Jester45> hi
[10:04] <hyper_ch> !nvidia
[10:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:37] <bio__> does anyone know a program that will make the computer read print?
[10:40] <TheSheep> bio__: gocr and various other ocr programs
[10:40] <bio__> there are a few it appears in the synaptic if you search "speech"
[10:40] <bio__> it appears
[10:41] <bio__> text to speech programs
[10:41] <TheSheep> ah, I thought you meant text recognition
[10:51] <bio__> I got something okay
[10:51] <bio__> espeak
[10:52] <bio__> How's Ron Paul doing with you?
[10:54] <TheSheep> bio__: I beg you pardon?
[10:55] <bio__> Ron Paul for President 2008?  Doesn't ring a bell?
[10:55] <bio__> You should Google him, especially if you're American
[10:56] <TheSheep> !ot
[10:56] <ubotu> #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:56] <bio__> Xubuntu and Ron Paul are like peas and carrots (if you are in a region where such colloquialisms are recognizable)
[10:56] <bio__> anyhoo, see you later!
[10:56] <bio__> Thanks for the chatter
[10:57] <bio__> !xubuntu
[10:57] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[10:57] <bio__> I'll go to #ronpaul
[10:58] <TheSheep> bio__: we don't do politics on freenode, consider yourself warned
[11:02] <magic_ninja> are there any reasons i would have a samba server installed, seeing as I have not manually installed or configured one
[11:28] <magic_ninja> !.deb
[11:28] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:15] <Catoptromancy_> wow heh
[01:15] <Catoptromancy_> 50 mbs of updates
[01:15] <Catoptromancy_> guess I kinda forgot
[02:15] <jasonx> Has anybody got the "Rezlooks" theme engine working on Feisty (Xubuntu PPC)? I have compiled the engine and put some themes in my .themes folder but nothing shows up
[03:57] <abedo> guys I put a php file in var/www  , but when I click a link that point to this file , It open the download dialog instead go to another page .
[04:01] <hyper_ch> abedo: how did you link that file?
[04:06] <Pumpernickel> Sounds like you don't have mod_php set up properly.
[04:30] <abedo> hyper_ch: href  like any hyperlink
[04:31] <abedo> <a href="test.php">
[06:31] <pleia2> how important is it to have hald running?
[06:32] <pleia2> based on the description and how often I plug in new hardware, I'm leaning toward "not important at all"
[07:03] <TheSheep> pleia2: you also need hal for thunar to see inserted cd's and for it to eject them
[07:03] <pleia2> TheSheep: already uninstalled thunar, don't need it
[07:03] <pleia2> how about for when I plug in my usb mouse?
[07:04] <TheSheep> I guess that is handled by udev
[07:04] <pleia2> I expect so
[07:04] <TheSheep> pleia2: maybe you would be happier with a more advanced but lighted distro
[07:04] <TheSheep> pleia2: like archlinux
[07:05] <pleia2> TheSheep: this laptop already dual boots xubuntu and debian, I'm running xubuntu mostly because of the superior wireless support
[07:05] <TheSheep> ah, ok
[07:06] <pleia2> so I use xubuntu for when I'm on the road, debian for development (I maintain a couple packages)
[07:08] <VladimirMelo> do we have news about xfce schedule for ubuntu?
[07:09] <TheSheep> VladimirMelo: did you check the wiki?
[07:09] <VladimirMelo> TheSheep: no, i didn't, is there any information there?
[07:09] <TheSheep> VladimirMelo: that's where I'd start looking
[07:10] <VladimirMelo> TheSheep: ok :)
[07:10] <TheSheep> !schedule
[07:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[07:10] <TheSheep> some starting points :)
[07:12] <VladimirMelo> TheSheep: I'm reading about plans, by the way, I'm working to join gnome and xfce translation teams, but it's not easy
[08:17] <ReCola> hello, anyone here can help me with new install of xubuntu?
[08:17] <Pumpernickel> !anyone
[08:17] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:18] <ReCola> lol .. i just installed on old compaq presario 1670,  at start up i get message .. ACPI: unable to locate RSDP
[08:18] <TheSheep> ReCola: that's harmless warning
[08:19] <ReCola> hmmm .. it will not complete start up .. it stalls at spinning wheel
[08:24] <Pumpernickel> Have you tried booting with acpi disabled?
[08:24] <ReCola> no
[08:29] <Pumpernickel> It could be worth testing.
[08:30] <ReCola> thank you.
[09:43] <Catoptromancy> anyone happen to know a good mod tracker?
[10:27] <taggartbg> so...i have a laptop running xubuntu 7.04, and I have a wireless card - a linksys.  I unblacklisted it's driver (r818x), i modprobed it, it worked in the past - now when i do the exact same thing i get no results
[10:27] <taggartbg> iwconfig recognizes the card, but its as if its dead
[10:28] <taggartbg> however, its a brand new card
[10:28] <taggartbg> any help would be greatly appreciated
[10:28] <Catoptromancy> linksys should work perfectly with ndiswrapper
[10:28] <taggartbg> isn't that basically for using a windows driver on linux?
[10:29] <Catoptromancy> makes mine work fine
[10:29] <taggartbg> i don't see why i would do that, if fiesty fawn has a driver built in that worked last time i used the laptop
[10:29] <taggartbg> I'll look into it though, thanks
[10:30] <taggartbg> any other ideas?
[10:33] <str1> can anyone here tell me what happens if you unstall xfce from xubuntu feisty ?  does the system still work if i have another gui system like kde on it ?  also how do i remove xfce ?   any pointer would be appreciated
[10:34] <zials> . . . why not just install kubuntu?
[10:35] <str1> zials:  i already have kde+xfce on xubuntu feisty.... i simply want to update from xfce 4.4.0 to 4.4.1
[10:35] <str1> zials:  i have the 4.4.1 graphical installer but i am unsure if i first need to remove old xfce
[10:35] <Catoptromancy> wouldnt update manager do that
[10:36] <zials> you don't need to worry about xfce in that case...
[10:36] <str1> zials: oh ok so i can simple install the new one using the graphical setup ?
[10:37] <zials> it sounds relatively safe
[10:37] <str1> ok great.  thanks for the help
[10:37] <taggartbg> anybody have any ideas on my wifi card situation?
[10:38] <Catoptromancy> linksys are very compatible
[10:38] <Catoptromancy> exactly what model adaptor
[10:39] <taggartbg> erm, h/o
[10:39] <Catoptromancy> http://damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Verified_Wireless_Cards
[10:39] <taggartbg> WPC11-VN v.4
[10:39] <taggartbg> it worked before
[10:40] <taggartbg> it uses the r818x driver
[10:40] <taggartbg> oh
[10:40] <taggartbg> wow
[10:40] <taggartbg> ...I forgo sudo...
[10:40] <Catoptromancy> heh
[10:40] <taggartbg>  /stupid
[10:40] <taggartbg> sorry :-P
[10:41] <Catoptromancy> heh and that was the DSL wiki
[10:41] <Catoptromancy> its about the same for ubuntu
[10:41] <taggartbg> have you / anyone here ever used wifi-radar?
[10:42] <Catoptromancy> not even sure what that is
[10:42] <taggartbg> its a wireless network manager
[10:42] <Catoptromancy> i use the one that came with pl
[10:42] <Catoptromancy> pc
[10:42] <taggartbg> its not very straighforward
[10:43] <Catoptromancy> gui in xfce, is easier to install USB wireless card in Linux than Windows
[10:56] <taggartbg> anybody use xubuntu on a WPA network?
[11:06] <taggartbg> moreover, does anybody use wifi-radar?
[11:08] <taggartbg> or, even if you don't use wifi-radar, any idea why my loopback says "no wireless extensions."?
[11:37] <clouder> what's the name of the app that xfce uses to adjust desktop gamma?
[11:47] <fijam> hello
[11:48] <fijam> intel i810, internal screen - 1280x800, external CRT - 1024x768, Xinerama
[11:48] <fijam> how to change refresh rate for CRT?
[11:49] <fijam> none of the obvious options seems to work and I am growing tired of this.
[11:54] <clouder> The only thing I can think of is setting them independently in the monitor sections of your xorg.conf.  not sure how obvious you would consider that though
[11:55] <fijam> I have tried that, it seems to be ignored
[12:11] <fijam> it's past midnight already, I'll look into it tomorrow