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[02:25] No f-- password works on admin thing [02:26] lol [02:26] i remember that being a problem === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-179-218.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [02:30] :< [02:31] it sounds like a bug, it should come perfectly usable [02:45] i don't think it's a bug, i think i was doing something noobish [02:45] it's been a long time though === darrend [n=darren@monroe-aaisp.davisononline.org] has joined #xubuntu === pfein [n=pfein@173.sub-75-204-84.myvzw.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:56] If I have a fresh Ubuntu (ie, Gnome) install + a Xubuntu Desktop CD, how can I get xubuntu-desktop installed? [02:57] there is a way to basically do this w/out even using the cd [02:57] you have to replace gnome with kfce [02:57] it looks different but it is essentially the same thing [02:58] the easiest option is just to install xubuntu and then add the ubuntu elements you need [02:58] Melquiades: no, I *want* to use the CD, I don't have net access on the target yet [02:58] nm === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h42n4c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:00] and I'm supposed to know that? [03:00] LOL === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-245-244.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:05] pfein - just add the cd to your repositories in package manager [03:05] pfein - then u can just sudo-apt get it [03:05] mkquist: yup, figured it out. & discovered apt-cdrom [03:05] ;) [03:05] k === oldmanstan [n=glesica@128-177-28-13.ip.openhosting.com] has joined #xubuntu === Wankus [n=Wankus@bb-87-82-30-225.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] Hi, whats the best way to connect to a wireless network (wpa encryption) through a xubuntu laptop? Network-manager? [03:13] yes [03:14] so ,its "sudo aptitude install network-manager" ? [03:14] no.....network-manager is pre-installed [03:15] it is? how do i find it, I'm on feisty? [03:15] mkquist: so I've got the cd in my sources.list, but xubuntu-desktop is unknown to apt-get/apt-cache [03:15] applications>system>network [03:16] I tried that, but I couldn't use wpa for it. [03:16] jus wep [03:17] hrm..then idk [03:17] =\ [03:17] can you use wpa in yours? [03:18] never tried [03:18] ok, thanks for the help anyways [03:30] pfein - try xfce and see what happens [03:34] mkquist: oops, go frustrated & turned it off. maybe later. thx tho. [03:34] how does one get those "tasks" tho? 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[10:40] bio__: gocr and various other ocr programs [10:40] there are a few it appears in the synaptic if you search "speech" [10:40] it appears [10:41] text to speech programs [10:41] ah, I thought you meant text recognition === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACD57162.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:51] I got something okay [10:51] espeak [10:52] How's Ron Paul doing with you? [10:54] bio__: I beg you pardon? [10:55] Ron Paul for President 2008? Doesn't ring a bell? [10:55] You should Google him, especially if you're American [10:56] !ot [10:56] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [10:56] Xubuntu and Ron Paul are like peas and carrots (if you are in a region where such colloquialisms are recognizable) [10:56] anyhoo, see you later! [10:56] Thanks for the chatter [10:57] !xubuntu [10:57] xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels [10:57] I'll go to #ronpaul [10:58] bio__: we don't do politics on freenode, consider yourself warned === Furax- [n=furax@host-84-222-140-146.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #xubuntu [11:02] are there any reasons i would have a samba server installed, seeing as I have not manually installed or configured one === MrBuzz [n=mrbuzz11@c-24-6-9-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === tripppy [n=tripppy@c210-49-97-52.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [11:28] !.deb [11:28] deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. 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[04:01] abedo: how did you link that file? [04:06] Sounds like you don't have mod_php set up properly. 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[07:04] I guess that is handled by udev [07:04] I expect so [07:04] pleia2: maybe you would be happier with a more advanced but lighted distro [07:04] pleia2: like archlinux [07:05] TheSheep: this laptop already dual boots xubuntu and debian, I'm running xubuntu mostly because of the superior wireless support [07:05] ah, ok [07:06] so I use xubuntu for when I'm on the road, debian for development (I maintain a couple packages) [07:08] do we have news about xfce schedule for ubuntu? [07:09] VladimirMelo: did you check the wiki? [07:09] TheSheep: no, i didn't, is there any information there? [07:09] VladimirMelo: that's where I'd start looking [07:10] TheSheep: ok :) [07:10] !schedule [07:10] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [07:10] some starting points :) [07:12] TheSheep: I'm reading about plans, by the way, I'm working to join gnome and xfce translation teams, but it's not easy === thursday11010 [n=thursday@ool-45725773.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === VladimirMelo [n=vladimir@201-14-78-85.bsace706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #xubuntu === VladimirMelo [n=vladimir@201-14-78-85.bsace706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #xubuntu === xBill [n=dario@p5494D207.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === jgamio [n=jgamio@190.72.45.117] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === ReCola [n=roy@d14-69-86-213.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #xubuntu [08:17] hello, anyone here can help me with new install of xubuntu? [08:17] !anyone [08:17] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [08:18] lol .. i just installed on old compaq presario 1670, at start up i get message .. ACPI: unable to locate RSDP [08:18] ReCola: that's harmless warning [08:19] hmmm .. it will not complete start up .. it stalls at spinning wheel [08:24] Have you tried booting with acpi disabled? [08:24] no === scotti_ [n=scotti@CPE0018f8f39c96-CM0011ae907266.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === scotti_ [n=scotti@CPE0018f8f39c96-CM0011ae907266.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [08:29] It could be worth testing. 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I unblacklisted it's driver (r818x), i modprobed it, it worked in the past - now when i do the exact same thing i get no results [10:27] iwconfig recognizes the card, but its as if its dead [10:28] however, its a brand new card [10:28] any help would be greatly appreciated [10:28] linksys should work perfectly with ndiswrapper [10:28] isn't that basically for using a windows driver on linux? [10:29] makes mine work fine [10:29] i don't see why i would do that, if fiesty fawn has a driver built in that worked last time i used the laptop [10:29] I'll look into it though, thanks [10:30] any other ideas? === th3man___ [n=th3man@pool-71-126-163-156.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === str1 [n=str1@89.211.161.19] has joined #xubuntu === bitform [n=bitform@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/bitform] has joined #xubuntu [10:33] can anyone here tell me what happens if you unstall xfce from xubuntu feisty ? does the system still work if i have another gui system like kde on it ? also how do i remove xfce ? any pointer would be appreciated [10:34] . . . why not just install kubuntu? === SamRose [n=SamRose@c-71-197-16-217.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:35] zials: i already have kde+xfce on xubuntu feisty.... i simply want to update from xfce 4.4.0 to 4.4.1 [10:35] zials: i have the 4.4.1 graphical installer but i am unsure if i first need to remove old xfce [10:35] wouldnt update manager do that [10:36] you don't need to worry about xfce in that case... [10:36] zials: oh ok so i can simple install the new one using the graphical setup ? [10:37] it sounds relatively safe [10:37] ok great. thanks for the help [10:37] anybody have any ideas on my wifi card situation? [10:38] linksys are very compatible [10:38] exactly what model adaptor [10:39] erm, h/o [10:39] http://damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Verified_Wireless_Cards [10:39] WPC11-VN v.4 [10:39] it worked before === diggie [n=rossi@hmbg-d9bfba4a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:40] it uses the r818x driver === Naughtyboy [n=Naughtyb@135.217.95.91.static.ter-s.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:40] oh [10:40] wow === diggie [n=rossi@hmbg-d9bfba4a.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #xubuntu ["Verlassend"] [10:40] ...I forgo sudo... [10:40] heh [10:40] /stupid [10:40] sorry :-P [10:41] heh and that was the DSL wiki [10:41] its about the same for ubuntu [10:41] have you / anyone here ever used wifi-radar? [10:42] not even sure what that is [10:42] its a wireless network manager [10:42] i use the one that came with pl [10:42] pc [10:42] its not very straighforward === mkquist_ [n=mkquist@h-72-245-7-153.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:43] gui in xfce, is easier to install USB wireless card in Linux than Windows === mkquist [n=michael@h-72-245-7-153.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu === FifaFrazer [n=fifafraz@0x5731efce.arcnxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #xubuntu [10:56] anybody use xubuntu on a WPA network? [11:06] moreover, does anybody use wifi-radar? === VladimirMelo [n=vladimir@201-14-78-85.bsace706.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #xubuntu [11:08] or, even if you don't use wifi-radar, any idea why my loopback says "no wireless extensions."? === zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177961740.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === clouder [n=clouder@cpe-24-174-204-170.elp.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [11:37] what's the name of the app that xfce uses to adjust desktop gamma? === fijam [n=fijam@unaffiliated/fijam] has joined #xubuntu [11:47] hello [11:48] intel i810, internal screen - 1280x800, external CRT - 1024x768, Xinerama [11:48] how to change refresh rate for CRT? [11:49] none of the obvious options seems to work and I am growing tired of this. [11:54] The only thing I can think of is setting them independently in the monitor sections of your xorg.conf. not sure how obvious you would consider that though [11:55] I have tried that, it seems to be ignored === fijam delves into xorg logs === ceil420 [n=Ceil@71-11-245-60.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #xubuntu === abedo [n=abd@dns1.kielletty.net] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === scotti__ [n=scotti@CPE0018f8f39c96-CM0011ae907266.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:11] it's past midnight already, I'll look into it tomorrow === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-246-27.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu