[01:10] <LaserJock> RichEd: you awake this late?
[08:23] <nextse7en> I need some help configuring ltsp, anyone availibe?
[08:46] <Burgundavia> nextse7en: what is your question?
[11:48] <RichEd> hey corey
[11:49] <RichEd> ogra: oing
[11:49] <RichEd> ping rather
[11:50] <Burgundavia> hey RichEd
[11:51] <RichEd> Burgundavia: kak weather in cape town at the moment ... no rush to get here for your vac :)
[11:52] <Burgundavia> heh
[12:28] <RichEd> ogra: ping
[02:58] <JonNoob> Hi. does anybody have experience with sadms? I am trying to integrate my Edubuntu feisty with my win2003 Active directory....
[03:17] <menoz> hi all! I've just installed edubuntu 7.04 couse I wanted to experiment LTSP services
[03:17] <JonNoob> Please help me. I really need to integrate my Edubuntu feisty server into my active directory. Does anybody here have a working setup???
[03:18] <menoz> everything seems working (audio, client's cdrom, client's local HDD)
[03:19] <menoz> but I've got problems with usb pens: If I attach them to a client, nothing happens! But if I attach a usb pen on the server, it behaves correctly and an icon appears on all the clients.
[03:20] <menoz> Can somebody please help me? It is very very strange that on a fresh edubuntu installation everything seems working (floppies are untested) except from usb pens on clients!
[03:22] <JonNoob> menoz you have to go into system-administration-Users and groups. Choose properties for your user. under the tab "User Privileges" chech "Allow use of fuse file..."
[03:22] <cliebow_> menoz:those usb sticks are partitioned?
[03:23] <JonNoob> You might need to logoff and logon again for thew change to work
[03:23] <menoz>   JonNoob: already done it (cdroms works)
[03:23] <menoz>  cliebow: yep, vfat
[03:23] <JonNoob> ok.. Then I have no idea... Good luck
[03:24] <menoz> cliebow_: and another one is ext3
[03:24] <cliebow_> hang a sec
[03:24] <menoz> yeah,sure
[03:26] <cliebow_> i cant find the reference i want..but some usb sticks come unpartitioned..even if they are formatted.
[03:26] <menoz> well ok, but if I attache the stick on the server, everything works
[03:26] <menoz> and an icon appears on every client's desktop
[03:30] <cliebow_> when sbalneav comes in..we'll check that his twelve step troubleshooting is still current for feisty..
[03:31] <cliebow_> #
[03:31] <cliebow_> # Partitioned USB memory sticks. Unpartitioned sticks are not supported.
[03:31] <cliebow_> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Overview
[03:32] <JonNoob> anybody have integrated edubuntu feisty server with win2003 active directory with success????
[03:33] <cliebow_> JonNoob, i thoink there is a wiki page on this..i use winbind for a nimber of years in fedora..
[03:33] <JonNoob> With winbind you administrate the users on the win server?
[03:34] <cliebow_> no..but authentication on terminals was done thru winbind to ad
[03:35] <JonNoob> No!! Hmm. does that mean i have to administrate the users on linux and windows???
[03:35] <cliebow_> no..any user in ad could login to a linux terminal
[03:36] <JonNoob> ok... what about home directorys? Does that work?
[03:36] <cliebow_> i used pam_mount for that..my old notes are at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WinIntegration
[03:37] <JonNoob> Thanks alot. I will look into that...
[03:38] <cliebow_> i am sure there is a wikipage in ubuntu for this..i hosed a hard drive so dont have me old bookmarks..
[03:38] <JonNoob> ok.. I am searching
[03:39] <JonNoob> Is it this one you are thinking about? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto?highlight=%28winbind%29
[03:44] <cliebow_> JohanSalim, i am unsure..seems ok..you might holler in #ltsp  as well
[03:45] <cliebow_> JonN00b, i am unsure..seems ok..you might holler in #ltsp  as well
[03:45] <menoz>  cliebow_: the stick is partitioned (data is inside), and when I attach it to the server the client can read/write files in it.
[03:45] <cliebow_> Gadi is in #ltsp ..he is wicked savvy
[03:45] <JonNoob> ok
[03:45] <cliebow_> menoz:best we can do is hope Scottie pops in..
[03:46] <menoz> cliebow_: i've looked to the troubleshooting,but it's for 4.2 version of ltsp
[03:46] <menoz> ok
[03:49] <moquist> ogra: moodle package is progressing: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6347
[04:13] <menoz> cliebow_:following the throubleshooting guide I saw that client has the same name of the server - this could be a problem
[04:33] <menoz> is it possible to read fuse logs somewhere?
[04:34] <LaserJock> RichEd: around?
[04:37] <menoz> I mean, sorry, in the edubuntu filesystem.. I cannot find them anywhere, and maybe they have to be activated..
[04:38] <LaserJock> menoz: in general, logs are in /var/log/ but I wouldn't imagine that fuse would log by default
[04:39] <menoz> so I sould activate them through /etc/fuse.conf?
[04:40] <RichEd> hi LaserJock
[04:41] <LaserJock> menoz: that I don't know
[04:43] <menoz> ok thanks anyway!!
[04:43] <LaserJock> menoz: you might try #ltsp too
[04:43] <LaserJock> ogra should know though, if he's up
[04:43] <moquist> LaserJock: moodle package is progressing: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=6347
[04:43] <LaserJock> moquist: hi!
[04:44] <moquist> LaserJock: and hi. :)
[04:44] <menoz> ogra: Hi, do you know how to turn on fuse logs?And/or where to find them in the edubuntu filesystem?
[04:45] <LaserJock> moquist: you might have a look at the warning in the linda file. The lintian ones you can ignore (it doesn't know about Ubuntu)
[04:47] <moquist> LaserJock: that's gotta be present for the moodle package that's already in universe; I haven't touched anything but the package scripts
[04:47] <moquist> LaserJock: does that need to be fixed before this can go into main?
[04:48] <LaserJock> moquist: no, it's just a warning, it's really something the Debian maintainer should look at
[04:48] <LaserJock> moquist: it's complaining that it thinks default.ttf is a common font that already exists
[04:49] <LaserJock> but it could be a false positive because I imagine there are many default.ttf fonts ;-)
[04:50] <stgraber> LaserJock: not that much, apt-file says two others (in smc-data and fretsonfire-game)
[04:50] <stgraber> btw, hi there
[04:50] <moquist> LaserJock: right.
[04:51] <LaserJock> hi stgraber
[04:52] <stgraber> screen -x
[04:52] <stgraber> oops
[04:53] <stgraber> (forgot that this launcher do the screen -x as well :))
[04:56] <LaserJock> RichEd, et al: The new Gutsy daily Server Addon CD has a new installer menu
[04:56] <LaserJock> I'd appreciate feedback on it if possible
[04:59] <LaserJock> hi sbalneav
[04:59] <cliebow_> Scottie!!!
[05:00] <sbalneav> Morning all
[05:00] <sbalneav> Hey LaserJock
[05:00] <sbalneav> Hey cliebow
[05:00] <LaserJock> sbalneav: do you know if fuse logs to anywhere?
[05:00] <RichEd> LaserJock: I need to sort out a machine to test ... any chance of screenshots in the meanwhile ?
[05:00] <RichEd> hi sbalneav & cliebow
[05:00] <cliebow_> HeyHey!
[05:00] <sbalneav> hey
[05:00] <LaserJock> RichEd: I can probably do some
[05:00] <sbalneav> ogra: Aboot?
[05:01] <cliebow_> sbalneav:id like to try out latest ldm..an ltsp-build-client will do it/
[05:01] <RichEd> LaserJock: I've just rescued an old notebook ... hopefully can partition it soon for dual boot ... and testing
[05:01] <ogra> sbalneav, not really
[05:01] <sbalneav> :(
[05:01] <LaserJock> ogra: did Edubuntu follow the human-theme changes from Ubuntu?
[05:01] <sbalneav> I started glib-ing ldm on the weekend.
[05:02] <LaserJock> for some reason when I dist-upgraded to gutsy edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop won't co-exist peacefully
[05:02] <ogra> LaserJock, i assume so
[05:02] <LaserJock> edubuntu-artwork took out ubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <ogra> the changes should have been merged by whoever made the change in ubuntu
[05:03] <ogra> i'll check that
[05:03] <LaserJock> ah, I found it
[05:03] <LaserJock> ubuntu-artwork deps on human-theme
[05:04] <LaserJock> edubuntu-artwork deps on human-cursor-theme
[05:04] <cliebow_> ahh
[05:04] <ogra> sbalneav, your ltsp-build-client bug: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gutsy-changes/2007-August/005866.html
[05:04] <LaserJock> ogra: I can fix edubuntu-artwork if you don't mind
[05:04] <sbalneav> Ah, yeah, saw something about a /dev/pts
[05:05] <ogra> that'd be cool
[05:05] <sbalneav> I'm building now.
[05:05] <sbalneav> Are you in the process of getting a tribe cd together?
[05:05] <ogra> sbalneav, not sure thats in the archive yet
[05:05] <ogra> yes
[05:05] <sbalneav> Did you merge my changes to jetpipe?
[05:06] <ogra> i think they were in the last merge, yes
[05:06] <LaserJock> ogra: human-theme conflicts/replaces human-cursors-theme, we just need to switch the deps
[05:06] <ogra> LaserJock, ok, cool
[05:06] <cliebow_> ldm 5.0.22 is latest isnt it..
[05:06] <ogra> yep
[05:06] <ogra> " * Touched up jetpipe a bit: don't keep remaking socket"
[05:06] <sbalneav> Have you done a sync from my tree since a couple of days ago?
[05:06] <ogra> sbalneav, ^^^
[05:06] <sbalneav> Perfect.
[05:06] <ogra> thats from 5.0.22 changelog
[05:07] <cliebow_> i see it..
[05:07] <menoz> sorry all: is scottie in? I've some open issues...
[05:07] <ogra>  /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server-standalone/changelog.gz btw :P
[05:08] <sbalneav> menoz: Me?
[05:09] <cliebow_> sbalneav: the twelve step from 4.2 for usb is still ok to use?
[05:09] <cliebow_> or no
[05:09] <sbalneav> No, not at all.
[05:09] <sbalneav> Completely different in ltsp5
[05:10] <menoz> sbalneav: yeah! cliebow_ told me about you.. Because we were discussing about some strange problem I have on a fresh edubuntu installation, and he told me to ask you...
[05:10] <moquist> isn't it just one step now? "Add users to fuse group"
[05:10] <sbalneav> Well, I really should have a debugging document, just in case.
[05:10] <sbalneav> But I haven't had time.
[05:10] <sbalneav> menoz: Well, ask away.
[05:10] <cliebow_> anyway..this gent has trouble with usb sticks..but cdroms work fine..his sticks are partitioned
[05:10] <menoz> I've just installed edubuntu 7.04 couse I wanted to experiment LTSP services.
[05:11] <menoz>  everything seems working (audio, client's cdrom, client's local HDD)
[05:11] <menoz>  but I've got problems with usb pens: If I attach them to a client, nothing happens! But if I attach a usb pen on the server, it behaves correctly and an icon appears on all the clients.
[05:11] <menoz> and this is a fresh edubuntu installation; I've only added users to fuse group.
[05:11] <moquist> menoz: If you enable local logins on the TCs, you can switch to TTY1 and watch /etc/fstab and logs in /var/log (IIRC) to see what's going on.
[05:12] <sbalneav> Yes, I'd start there first.
[05:12] <sbalneav> chroot /optl/ltsp/i386
[05:12] <ogra> smells like a broken partition table on the sticks ...
[05:12] <menoz> nothing gets logged when I attach the usb dongle on the client
[05:12] <sbalneav> set a root password.
[05:12] <sbalneav> then control-alt-f1
[05:12] <sbalneav> log in as root
[05:12] <cliebow_> mpquist:yessir Matt..Im a fishjing for the answer too 8~)
[05:13] <sbalneav> then check with dmesg, see if the clien't seeing the plug event.
[05:13] <menoz> ogra: if I attach the stick in the server, clients can read/write them. And I tried bot vfat and ext3 formatted sticks
[05:14] <sbalneav> aaargh, the apt change hasn't made it to the archives yet :(
[05:14] <ogra> sbalneav, its in since 1h, wait another one
[05:14] <cliebow_> k
[05:15] <moquist> ogra: exec summary is that the moodle package is working for mysql (I believe) and I need to add postgresql support.
[05:15] <LaserJock> ogra: heh, is edubuntu-artwork ever going to get out of 0.1.0? :-)
[05:15] <ogra> moquist, postgres is a bit special, you can simply su to postmaster, talk to pitti about that
[05:16] <ogra> LaserJock, with gutsy i hope
[05:16] <menoz> sbalneav:ok,just a few minutes..
[05:16] <ogra> i want to fix that after UVF
[05:16] <moquist> LaserJock, ogra: what's the relevant freeze date about which I need to be concerned for the moodle package?
[05:16] <ogra> moquist, UVF would be nice
[05:16] <LaserJock> which is the 16th
[05:17] <ogra> right
[05:17] <ogra> we'll need some time for testing and bugfixing
[05:17] <moquist> acronym2english("UVF");
[05:17] <ogra> upstream version freeze
[05:17] <LaserJock> print "Upstream Version Freeze"
[05:17] <ogra> see the release schedule
[05:18] <moquist> Yeah, the way that package works is pretty limited by default. It only provides for localhost access to Moodle. Is that what we want?
[05:18] <LaserJock> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[05:18] <LaserJock> is it easy to change the access?
[05:18] <moquist> mmmmmmm....
[05:18] <LaserJock> I would think keeping to to localhost by default would be saner
[05:18] <moquist> yes/no
[05:19] <ogra> it should use whatever debconf provides it ...
[05:19] <moquist> it would involve more substantial and controversial changes to the upstream package
[05:19] <ogra> and the debconf default should be localhost
[05:20] <LaserJock> moquist: ok, so if you install from the upstream tarball it's limited to localhost by default?
[05:20] <moquist> I have high hopes that the Debian maintainer will take in the change away from wwwconfig, but a change that modifies security-relevant stuff would definitely not be as easy to sell.
[05:20] <moquist> LaserJock: Yeah, and Moodle is configured to link to itself as http://localhost/moodle/
[05:20] <ogra> isnt that set in config.php ?
[05:21] <ogra> (which is generated by the postinst afaik)
[05:21] <moquist> That's not bad, especially if we clearly document how to open it up.
[05:21] <moquist> ogra: Exactly. not a big deal; I haven't carefully looked at the apache part of the configuration to see if config.php is all that would need to change.
[05:22] <ogra> in any case the DB server should be configurable
[05:23] <ogra> for round robin setups etc you will need that
[05:23] <moquist> what does "configurable" mean? anything different than what the package already does?
[05:23] <ogra> being able top specify a different server than localhost for the backend
[05:23] <moquist> FWIW, it looks to me like you have to have mysql-server or posgresql already installed for the moodle package to install correctly.
[05:23] <ogra> (which the current package offers i think)
[05:24] <moquist> ogra: ah, yes. that is supported.
[05:24] <ogra> yeah, thats bad as well ... but nothing i'm concerned about atm
[05:24] <ogra> we can make that a recommends
[05:24] <ogra> so you dont need to carry around the extra weight
[05:30] <menoz> sbalneav: ok, if I attach the pen nothing happens, even on logs; nothing gets written. However, I tried to launch this command: mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /var/run/drives/mydir (mydir is a dir I created), and the pen gets mounted.
[05:30] <menoz> sbalneav: but nothing happens automatically.
[05:31] <sbalneav> Then something in the udev rules doesn't like that pern.
[05:31] <sbalneav> Have you tried other pens?
[05:32] <menoz> yep, 2 pens
[05:32] <menoz> one VFAT and one EXT3
[05:32] <yeipi> Hi sbalneav :)
[05:32] <menoz> note that
[05:32] <sbalneav> Well, nothing's changed in the udev rules lately.
[05:32] <sbalneav> Hello yeipi
[05:33] <menoz> the same I got the same behaviour with debian etch and ltsp 5
[05:33] <yeipi> sbalneav: did you read my email? jpincheira
[05:34] <menoz> sbalneav: so you say the problem is udev ?
[05:35] <sbalneav> yeipi: Yes, I got your email, but I haven't had any time to look at a smaller kernel for you at all, as I've been desperately busy to finish ldm for the Upstream Version Freeze on Aug 16.
[05:36] <sbalneav> menoz: yes.  The ltsp rules in /etc/udev/rules.d are what trigger things.
[05:36] <yeipi> sbalneav: oh ok dude! no problem. hope you finish that in time. :) thanks, anyway.
[05:36] <menoz> sbalneav: will be possible to solve this problem adding a specific line in the chroot's fstab ?
[05:36] <sbalneav> yeipi: I'll get to it eventually, and send you a howto.
[05:36] <sbalneav> menoz: no
[05:36] <menoz> sbalneav: I mean, a static line like "/dev/sdb /mountpoint .... "
[05:37] <sbalneav> That would be very bad.
[05:37] <yeipi> sbalneav: that would be nice. Thanks for still consider it.
[05:37] <sbalneav> You need to find out why your stick isn't being picked up by udev.
[05:37] <ogra> sbalneav, see how he mounts it above ;)
[05:37] <matte_> sbalneav, is it possibile create a /bin/bash script that write a /etc/fstab line?
[05:38] <ogra> its not partitioned at all
[05:38] <ogra> menoz, partition it properly
[05:38] <cliebow_> good grief!!!
[05:38] <menoz> ogra: ? there's data inside..
[05:39] <ogra> copy it away, partition and for mat that thing and copy it back :)
[05:39] <ogra> *format
[05:39] <matte_> ogra, already do that so much time
[05:39] <matte_> times*
[05:39] <ogra> matte_, /dev/sdb is *no* partition
[05:39] <menoz> (menoz and matte_ work together )
[05:40] <ogra> i guessed so :)
[05:40] <sbalneav> Well, try that and see.
[05:40] <sbalneav> copy off you're data
[05:40] <sbalneav> fdisk /dev/sdb
[05:40] <sbalneav> create a partition table
[05:41] <sbalneav> create a /dev/sdb1 vfat part
[05:41] <sbalneav> format
[05:41] <sbalneav> copy back on data
[05:41] <sbalneav> see if that works
[05:41] <matte_> create a new empty DOS partition table
[05:41] <matte_> that?
[05:41] <ogra> (do all that on the server ;) )
[05:41] <sbalneav> yeah, on the server
[05:41] <ogra> and use cfdisk, its a bit more userfriendly
[05:42] <sbalneav> heh, never tried that one, I always use the old, unfriendly one.
[05:42] <moquist> cfdisk is good.
[05:43] <menoz> so is it possible to have working non-partitioned usb pens?
[05:43] <moquist> I haven't used it for years, but it is more careful than fdisk in ways that I remember being good.
[05:43] <ogra> menoz, obvoisly not ...
[05:43] <ogra> lets call that a bug :)
[05:43] <cliebow_> hmmm:ltsp-build-client is borking
[05:43] <menoz> ok, one thing: this pen is mounted as SDA on th server, and sdb on the client
[05:44] <ogra> menoz, that doesnt matter
[05:44] <LaserJock> menoz: that's why you don't want a static line in fstab
[05:44] <ogra> cliebow_, with an openpty() error ?
[05:44] <sbalneav> cliebow_: Welcome to my weekend :)
[05:44] <cliebow_> no..on unpacking libxdmcp..tried it twice
[05:44] <cliebow_> heh!!
[05:45] <LaserJock> ogra: human-theme is going to install the human gtk theme and icons as well, is that an issue?
[05:45] <sbalneav> cliebow_: Look up about 10 lines:
[05:45] <sbalneav> You'll see a:
[05:45] <cliebow_> yeah openpty failed is above
[05:45] <ogra> icons might become a size issue
[05:45] <menoz> yeah, you wizards!
[05:45] <sbalneav> Extracting templates from packages: 100%
[05:45] <sbalneav> Preconfiguring packages ...
[05:45] <sbalneav> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-9-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[05:45] <sbalneav> openpty failed
[05:45] <sbalneav> Error in select()
[05:45] <menoz> it works
[05:45] <cliebow_> yep..
[05:46] <ogra> cliebow_, so wait until new apt is in
[05:46] <cliebow_> k
[05:46] <cliebow_> hour or two then..
[05:46] <ogra> rigth
[05:46] <cliebow_> 8~)
[05:47] <cliebow_> careful there..
[05:47] <sbalneav> brb
[05:47] <menoz> cliebow_: ok, one other question: is it possible that someone, let's say a pupil, has a non-partitioned pen? I mean: what pens are non-partitioned?
[05:48] <cliebow_> i am unsure which are..
[05:48] <cliebow_> without doing an fdisk
[05:49] <menoz> cliebow_: maybe only older one are non-partitioned?
[05:49] <cliebow_> i am unsure which are..
[05:50] <menoz> how many pens, let's say over 100, are non-partitioned? A few one? Most of them?
[05:50] <LaserJock> I'm guessing they can "become" unpartitioned too
[05:50] <LaserJock> if kids mess around with them
[05:51] <menoz> is there any plan to support even non-partitioned pens?
[05:51] <cliebow_> i assume there is a technical reason they are not
[05:52] <cliebow_> if Scottie cant do it....
[05:53] <LaserJock> I think it's kinda hard to support a disk that is not partitioned
[05:54] <menoz> ok but the main ltsp server read that pen, even before it was partitioned...
[05:54] <LaserJock> I guess the best thing that could be done is to offer to wipe it out and partition it for you, but I think it's a bit of a corner case
[05:54] <menoz> yep..
[06:15] <sbalneav> menoz: We don't have hal integrated into ltsp yet, so not all device handling is as nice as we'd like it.
[06:15] <cliebow_> thanks
[06:16] <menoz> ok!
[06:16] <menoz> is its integration planned?
[06:16] <sbalneav> Possibly.  We have to see what impact on performance it will have.
[06:17] <sbalneav> We have to deal with a lot of low end clients, and we constantly have to straddle the line between performance and functionality.
[06:20] <menoz> ok; anyway, I think usb sticks (nowadays) are fare more important than, say, cdroms or floppies... So happy coding! But remember that this work you already done is fantastic, especially here in edubuntu where everything is well-integrated!
[06:21] <menoz> Thank you very much :)
[06:22] <LaserJock> ogra: ok, edubuntu-artwork uploaded. I'm guessing it'll take up a bit more space as it adds in the human icons
[06:24] <matte_> thank you! CU
[06:46] <sbalneav> WHOOHOO NEW APT!!
[06:48] <LaserJock> heh
[07:10] <sbalneav> WHOOHOO IT WORKS
[07:11] <cottima> hello
[07:11] <sbalneav> Hello
[07:12] <cottima> I am looking at a fix for cpqarray.o (raid for compaq), but I do not want to waste another disc if I do it wrong.  is there a way to test the disc without burning it?
[07:12] <cottima> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432175&highlight=cpqarray.o
[07:13] <cottima> I have cd-rw but there are only 650MB.
[07:16] <cottima> could I use a netinstall or boot disc?
[07:16] <sbalneav> If they're rw, you're not wasting the disk, you can just erase it :)
[07:17] <cottima> sbalneav, I would use them, but they are only 650MB.  Isn't the iso 700MB?
[07:18] <sbalneav> yes.
[07:18] <sbalneav> I think so.
[07:19] <cottima> one sec
[07:21] <cottima> sbalneav on the disc is the install folder.  I am going to check it out.
[07:34] <cottima> sbalneav  I guess if I waste a disc not doing something right, I waste a disc.  I just wish ubuntu had a netinstall disc like debian.
[07:34] <sbalneav> I beleive it does
[07:34] <sbalneav> I've just never used it :)
[07:34] <cottima> really where?
[07:35] <cottima> on the disc?
[07:38] <sbalneav> Dunno.
[07:38] <sbalneav> Like I say, I haven't used it, but I've read of others doing it.
[07:39] <LaserJock> cottima: you can download it, me get you the url
[07:42] <cottima> Please
[08:05] <LaserJock> cottima: well, I'm having a hard time finding it
[08:06] <LaserJock> cottima: I know they were around somewhere
[08:18] <moquist> cottima: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[08:18] <moquist> cottima: that page also mentions that if you look in install/netboot on an Ubuntu install CD you'll find the over-the-Internet installer
[08:19] <moquist> er, if it doesn't mention that, it should. and it's a wiki. *hint, hint*
[08:29] <sbalneav> yeipi: Well, even after hacking out the usplash art, and a bunch of kernel modules, I still can't get it to boot in 16 megs of ram.
[08:29] <sbalneav> 32 works fine.
[08:34] <yeipi> ok sbalneav !!
[08:34] <yeipi> thank you dude :)
[08:38] <LaserJock> cottima: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[08:39] <LaserJock> the mini.iso is what you want I think
[08:39] <LaserJock> well, for gutsy that is
[08:41] <yeipi> by ebye guys
[08:41] <yeipi> bye sbalneav
[08:41] <yeipi> :)
[08:47] <cliebow_> WHOA!!
[08:48] <LaserJock> cliebow_: what?
[08:49] <cliebow_> well..I got xubuntu login screen on the client..i were expecting ldm..
[08:50] <cliebow_> sbalneav: should be running ldm by default eh?
[08:51] <cliebow_> brb
[08:57] <oogabooga> v
[08:58] <oogabooga>  /nick
[09:14] <oogabooga>  ok..i give up...so how come i have an xubuntu splash on the term???
[09:16] <LaserJock> so is it running gdm?
[09:17] <oogabooga> i get gdm on the server....
[09:18] <oogabooga> and standard gdm lok
[09:18] <oogabooga> and standard gdm look
[09:18] <oogabooga> xdmcp does not seem running (from netstat)
[09:22] <JonNoob> hi guys. Need a little assistance... I have a Edubuntu Feisty Server AMD64. I am using thin client in a mixed 100Mbit/Gigabit environment. The problem is my client only will boot sometimes. It seems the problem is NFS which uses UDP protocol. I found a solution to change it to use TCP protocol, but they want me to chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 /bin/bash --login and then cd /etc/mkinitramfs/.... The problem is that there is no directory called thath(mkinitramfs)
[09:23] <JonNoob> The solution is described here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/TroubleShooting
[11:00] <thedman> hello everyone
[11:00] <thedman> I just installed edubuntu in a small private school / 10 clients
[11:00] <sbalneav> Nice to hear
[11:00] <thedman> They still need to have the pc's to be able to boot into Windows occasionally, is there an easy way to setup the network so it can get it's dhcp address from the internet router without the edubuntu server trying to answer the dhcp request?
[11:00] <thedman> Or even better can a Windows client use the dhcp server on the edubuntu server for Internet access?
[11:00] <sbalneav> Sure
[11:05] <sbalneav> The windows box will use an edubuntu supplied dhcp address just fine.
[11:05] <thedman> Okay, I must have something configured wrong then.
[11:07] <thedman> Just to be clear, the Windows client can get an address from the Edubunu server as well as have internet access through the Edubuntu server as well?
[11:15] <sbalneav> Well, it depends on your network.
[11:15] <sbalneav> How many network cards does the server have?
[11:15] <sbalneav> 2?
[11:15] <thedman> It has two nics
[11:15] <thedman> I thought I had everything working at home before I installed, but now it seems even the clients running edubuntu don't have internet access either, some config must have changed.
[11:17] <thedman> Is it safe to say that if internet access works for the edubuntu clients, it will work for Windows clients as well?  I just need to figure what changed.
[11:17] <stgraber> thedman: you'll need to set a FORWARD rule in iptables so routing will work for windows clients
[11:18] <stgraber> by default edubuntu doesn't route traffic from LAN to WAN
[11:18] <thedman> I see.
[11:18] <thedman> Is there an easy command for that?  I did not change any ip addresses from the default server install.
[11:19] <stgraber> Ihave a quick script doing that, just let me paste it somewhere
[11:19] <stgraber> http://paste.stgraber.org/2376
[11:20] <stgraber> ^^ assuming that your LAN is 192.168.0.X (I don't recall what the default one is)
[11:20] <thedman> Thank you, yeah that is the default config