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underdog5004!attitude | adenicio12:15
ubotuadenicio: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:15
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underdog5004!people12:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about people - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:16
underdog5004adenicio, try spelling out all the words. It makes you seem more intelligent.12:16
adeniciounderdog5004: sorry im not that good in riten english12:17
underdog5004adenicio, what is your native language?12:17
underdog5004I'm guessing spanish or italian...12:17
whizadreedarn my luck i just got one step further ,12:17
koyo001klobster: got anything from the paste12:17
klobsteradencio | !es12:17
adeniciounderdog5004: when i conect to the net someone try to conect to me and control my mouse n keyboard12:18
underdog5004adenicio, how can you tell?12:18
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DragnslcrThe .fr would make me guess French first12:18
adeniciounderdog5004: english12:18
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underdog5004!fr | adenicio12:18
ubotuadenicio: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:18
hangthedjwhizadree: have you looked at www.linux-laptops.org?12:18
underdog5004adenicio, yeah, but how can you tell someone is connecting to you?12:18
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Dragnslcradenicio- are you talking about VNC connections?12:19
whizadreehangthedj just checking now12:19
adeniciounderdog5004: something pop up saying someone trying to control the pc will i alow them to take control of mouse n keyboard that wa it said12:20
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adenicioDragnslcr: i dont have vnc.unless it does install the same time as u installl kubuntu12:21
klobsterkoyo001: can you ls /media anbd paste it? it looks like the drive IS in fact mounting?12:21
Dragnslcradenicio- I don't believe so12:21
underdog5004adenicio, do this: less cat /var/log/auth.log12:22
koyo001klobster: i see the drive i just dont know where to access it from12:22
underdog5004look for successful connections...or just pastebin it.12:22
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adeniciounderdog5004: its says theres no such file12:23
Dragnslcradenicio- you can see what ports you have open in a terminal with netstat -ltu12:23
underdog5004do this : cd /var/log12:23
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milescan u unfold the cube in beryl or is that compiz only?12:23
underdog5004then type in : ls -a | grep auth.log12:23
underdog5004miles, you can do that, but not by default. Look in beryl options for that12:24
milesyea, i know, but what is it called?12:24
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klobsterkoyo001: where do you see the drive?12:24
underdog5004miles, just look around, geez, I'm not going to spoon feed you.12:25
milesbecause, ive looked at every option12:25
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underdog5004h/o, lemme look12:25
milesok well i got another beryl question, and dont get mad becauese it isnt noob12:25
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BluesKajmiles, how can you be sure ?12:26
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underdog5004miles, in Beryl settings manager, go to Desktop -> Desktop Cube the go to shortcuts, and click on bindings12:26
underdog5004for me, it's <Control><Alt>z12:26
underdog5004you can change it though12:26
BluesKajnot mad  miles, just annoyed ...12:26
BluesKaj!effects12:27
ubotuFor help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects12:27
milesok12:27
koyo001klobster: system settings/advanced/disk and filesystem12:27
mileswell i got one more question though, and this one is legit12:27
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underdog5004if it's related to beryl, take it to #ubuntu-effects12:28
underdog5004what is the question?12:28
milesberyl project rejoined compiz correct?12:28
underdog5004!compiz-fusion12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
underdog5004miles, yep, it's now called compiz fusion12:28
mileswell no, im just wondering what is going to happen to beryl12:28
milesdoes it get taken out of the repos?12:28
underdog5004it'll be abandoned, I imagine...I'm just waiting a bit for fusion to mature...12:29
klobsterwhat does it say there?12:29
milesyea, i switched to fusion, and it looked more os x, but it ran worse12:29
underdog5004good to know12:29
milesand then i switched back, and thats why i wasnt sure if you could unfold in beryl12:29
underdog5004yes, you can.12:29
milesjeez, its not like i was asking how to get beryl12:29
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underdog5004lol12:30
klobsterkoyo001: you should be able to create a mount point from there, if you wish.  just right click on a partition and choose modify12:30
hamatoYeah I like that, miles. I put on my robe and wizard hat.12:30
underdog5004ahahahahahah!12:30
underdog5004I love that! "Not you again!"12:31
klobster!family | hamato12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about family - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
klobstergrr.  not my day12:31
BluesKajbah....eyecandy...what a waste of time ... impresses for a while , i gues but what real use is beryl anyway ?12:31
underdog5004BluesKaj, I find it easier to use my multiple desktops.12:31
milesi use it at work, it really does help if you have a lot of windows12:31
mileswobbly windows dont add anything12:32
underdog5004BluesKaj, also, wobbly windows make it feel more organic12:32
milesbut it is something mac and windows cant do12:32
BluesKajorganic ...gawd :)12:32
klobsterkoyo001: what is the device location in system settings?12:32
underdog5004lol12:32
milesall i gotta say, its kinda wierd now when my windows dont wobble12:32
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koyo001klobster: /dev/sda112:33
underdog5004it throws me for about 4 minutes...12:33
klobster???12:33
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BluesKajdon't mind me ...just a grumpy old retired guy with an ati graphics card :)12:33
underdog5004BluesKaj, oh, I'm sorry...I didn't know...12:33
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BluesKaji don't need sympathey :)12:34
klobsterkoyo001: how? I mean but...  Are you using fiesty?12:34
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BluesKajerr sympathy12:34
mileswould it be unwise to not upgrade to gutsy?12:34
klobsteryour USB drive is /dev/SDA1???12:35
milesits not going to be supported12:35
koyo001klobster: yes kubuntu fiesty12:35
klobsterkoyo001: see above12:35
koyo001klobster: yes sda112:35
klobstercan you capture a screenshot of your disk and filesystem window and pastebin it?12:36
underdog5004imageshack.us , I think12:36
BluesKajdepends what hardware you are running and what gutsy can run on it  ... my experience was very positive in some areas , but very unsatisfactory in the graphics dept12:36
koyo001 klobster: how? dont know how to do that???12:37
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underdog5004too bad, BluesKaj12:38
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BluesKajfeisty does nicely tho , so I'll stick with it12:38
klobsterkoyo001: sorry use imageshack.us12:39
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whizadreehangthedj , well i got the non wirless card work got ip and updating12:39
whizadreebut still wirless is the battle12:39
klobsterkoyo001: you can use the printscreen button and save it to disk12:39
klobstersorry i am a little tired12:39
hangthedjwhizadree: what kind of card is it?12:40
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whizadreehang > its a dell wirless 1390 wlan12:41
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klobsterkoyo001: also pastebin the output of df12:43
koyo001 klobster: i set a mount point as /media12:43
koyo001 klobster: and device as /dev/sda112:44
milesbrb12:44
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koyo001but tells me that only root has permission of access12:44
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miles!find ardour12:45
ubotuFound: ardour-doc, ardour-gtk, ardour-gtk-dbg, ardour-gtk-i686, ardour-session-exchange12:45
klobsterkoyo001: you shouldn't use /media as a mount poitn, you should create a folder in /media to mount to12:46
slimWhat's good? I have a problem. I need to install a *.run file. I don't know how to do it.12:46
klobsterkoyo001: can you pastebin the df command for me?12:46
slimI've gone to "Properties" and made it 'executable'.12:46
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koyo001 klobster: http://dpaste.com/16074/12:50
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Sanneslim: are you sure the application isn't installable from the Ubuntu repositories?12:50
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miles!find ardour212:52
ubotuPackage/file ardour2 does not exist in feisty12:52
klobsterkoyo001: the drive IS mounted at /media currently. can you run df again with the -T option (sorry, I forgot to include that)12:52
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miles!find ardour12:53
ubotuFound: ardour-doc, ardour-gtk, ardour-gtk-dbg, ardour-gtk-i686, ardour-session-exchange12:53
Sannemiles: I don't know if ubuntustudio's repositories provide ardour2, but might be worth a try. Just a thought.12:53
ryarenhi12:53
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BluesKaj!*.run12:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:54
ryarenI have a very big problem! When I install the nvidia driver, the kernel module doesn't load when I restart my computer12:54
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koyo001klobster: that command does not work12:56
klobsterdf -T koyo001: ??12:57
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GeekosaurCan anyone suggest a solution to my problem?  I desperately needed a pdf copy of a document, sGreetings and salutations, y'all.12:58
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koyo001klobster: http://dpaste.com/16075/12:58
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klobster!ntfs | koyo00112:59
ubotukoyo001: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:59
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GeekosaurOops, I was trying to get sometging done, and I get tangled up.12:59
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SanneGeekosaur: do you mean something like a "print to pdf" option?12:59
koyo001klobster: so what??? linux reads ntfs01:00
klobsterkoyo001: sorry i have to make my daughter and i some dinner, if you need further help installing the ntfs driver, i will be back in 45 minutes01:00
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GeekosaurI have apparently set my printers up so that the pdf printer is the default, and I can't print to the real printer.  Does anyone know how I can get back where I should be?  Too many users...01:01
whizadreedoes anyone have information on how to get the 1390 WLAN Wireless Driver to work ?01:01
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ryaren_When I install nvidia driver and reboot my computer, the kernel module doesn't load and I don't know why!01:01
elite101hey is there a simple p2p sharing client like limewire? or frostwire?01:02
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BluesKajelite101:  amule01:02
elite101does it work good?01:02
klobsterkoyo001: linux does not read ntfs by default01:02
elite101like alot of users?01:02
BluesKajI'm using it01:02
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elite101so does it work with music/programs/video?01:03
whizadreeBluesKaj  does it link into the emule system by default?01:03
elite101well i will try it01:03
klobsterkoyo001: if you do ls /media/Seagate/ what is the output?01:03
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BluesKajyup whizadree , you may have to configure some ports01:04
elite101does frostwire work good?01:04
whizadreenice ... thats where i get some good ebooks01:04
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milesno01:05
BluesKajfrostwire sucks01:05
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whizadree:)01:05
koyo001klobster: permission denied01:05
elite101well i messed up my computer using lime wire :)01:05
elite101it sucked very bad01:06
elite101but i got everything running on kubuntu really good now01:06
MaTiAz'tards use limewire01:06
klobsterkoyo001: hrm. and sudo ls /media/Seagate ?01:07
slim_I've got to update punkbuster. How do I get to the desktop as Root, or how can I execute a *.run package from the command line?01:09
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klobsterkoyo001: how did you mount the drive?01:10
koyo001klobster: through system01:11
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whizadreebrb01:12
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klobsterkoyo001: can you do " cat /etc/fstab " and dpaste it?01:14
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GeekosaurI guess I am rolling off the page, so I will try this another way.  Somehow, through some means, my system can no longer print normally.  The job goes from the app to the server, and stops there.  I restart the server, and all is well.  The job is in the tray, ready to go.but can't.  Yes the printer is on and ready to accept jobs, and I have even restarted the machine - still the same.  HELP!!01:15
carlucha63hola01:15
carlucha63hola01:16
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GeekosaurI'll try this again.  I have a Feisty system and a HP F-380 PSC printer.  Somehow the printer is not working and the system may be fouled upand be pointing  to a virtual printer (pdf I believe)).01:20
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whizadreewhats the location of the network card config01:22
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underdog5004whizadree, for a gui, go to kmenu > system settings > network settings01:24
underdog5004for a cli, just use ifconfig01:24
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adenicioanyone know how to use the wiimote on feity?bluethoot obex is not detecting my wiimote01:27
adenicioanyone know how to use the wiimote on feity?bluethoot obex is not detecting my wiimote01:27
whizadreeok there but etho is there any more looks like it didnt launch on boot up01:28
dthackerGeekosaur: from the command line, type lpstat -d and see what your default destination is.01:29
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whizadreeeth1 is there (but thats the usless broadcom drivers which is not working at present ) , eth0 was my  hardwired01:31
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dthackerwhizadree: was your hardwired connection DHCP or a static IP?01:32
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whizadreeDHCP  - but the etho was showing before a reboot01:32
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dthackerOK, so you have rebooted, and eth0 does not work.  Step 1 is verify your physical connection.  Make sure the network card has some blinky lights.01:33
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whizadreeall present and correct01:34
whizadreelights on both at NIC and Router01:35
Tomi-idleping localhost01:35
buck_i love this linux01:35
dthackerwhizadree: Step two is to try and reach your DHCP server again.  Pop open Konsole and type sudo ifdown eth0.  You'll need to give sudo your password01:35
whizadree0.0049,ms ok01:35
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adenicioanyone know how to use the wiimote on feity?bluethoot obex is not detecting my wiimote01:36
adeniciobuck_: why?01:36
whizadreeeth0 not configured01:36
dthackerwhizadree: ok try "sudo ifup eth0"  and watch it try to reach the DHCP server01:37
buck_because its a pain in the ass and the rewards are awesome01:38
whizadreeERROR while getting interface flags:no such device01:38
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whizadreefailed to bring up eth001:38
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dthackerwhizadree: you say the card has loaded before, correct?01:39
whizadreeyup , whats the config file for the boot up of the card maybe its not in there01:40
whizadreei wonder if the card isnt even loaded01:40
whizadreethats what it look s like01:40
dthackerhmmm, I have dapper running right now.  I think in fiesty there's an auto detect utility in the System Configuration GUI.01:41
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level1!compiz01:44
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:44
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ryarenpls help! When I install nvidia 9639 driver and I reboot the system it loads 7184 Nvidia kernel module and my X doesn't start!! But I don't understand why!?01:46
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hitmanWillyryaren, did you uninstall the old driver before installing the new one?01:48
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ryarenI installed 9639 to a brand new kubuntu01:49
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ryarenKubuntu install some kind of nvidia driver by default?01:49
SlimJaAnyone here play Enemy Territory?01:49
hitmanWillyryaren, shouldn't....at least not the proprietary ones01:50
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, are you in text mode right now?01:50
SlimJaI can't seem to connect to bunker1.aaxxss.com01:50
ryarenno01:51
whizadreedoes where within init.d would you locate the eth0 bootup01:52
hitmanWillyryaren, you are on kubuntu, tho, correct01:52
hitmanWilly?01:52
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ryarenyes01:53
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hitmanWillyryaren, what method did you use to install the driver?01:53
dawiz#mepis01:53
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dawizanyone know how i can get to the mepis irc channel?\01:54
ryarenfrom a *.run package01:54
dawizim new to irc01:54
dawizcant get grub to install for nothing01:54
hitmanWillydawiz, /join #mepis01:54
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, that's where the problem is probably01:55
W8TAHhi folks -- im on kubuntu feisty and i need to scale the speed of my proc due to temperature issues -- autoscaling woudl be ideal -- can anyone recomend a package or procedure?01:55
ryarenhitmanWilly: no it is not the problem because when I installed from a repos it didn't work to...01:56
ryarenalays the same problem01:56
ryarenkernel module and driver doesn't match01:56
ryarenbut01:56
ryarenwhen I installed the 9639 and start X without reboot01:57
hitmanWillyryaren, the one from the repos and the .run package are probably conflicting01:57
dawizcan anyone help with grub?01:57
ryarenwhen I installed the 9639 and start X without reboot driver works fine01:57
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ryarenand when I reboot the system didn't load the correct kernel module!01:57
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hitmanWillyryaren, that's because the .run script isn't aware of the kubuntu packaging methods01:58
ryarenno01:58
ryarenIn the past I successfully installed the driver from *.run pack01:59
ryarenI'm sure the problem is not on the installation method01:59
whizadreeethtool cant find eth0 either01:59
whizadree*sigh*02:00
ryarenif I install from adept manager there is the same problem so ..02:00
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hitmanWillyryaren, ok, what I would suggest is you uninstall any nvidia drivers currently installed and start from scratch02:01
ryarenokay02:01
ryarenhow can i uninstall?02:01
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ryarenall of the nvidia drivers?02:01
ryarenand kernel modules02:01
hitmanWillyryaren, for the .run its <name_of_run_pkg> --uninstall02:01
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hitmanWillyryaren, run with sudo02:02
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JohnFluxhmm.  I clicked on a link for nasa tv, which is a link to a .ram  file that contains a link to a .rm file02:03
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hitmanWillyryaren, and for the repo ones, its sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-glx*02:03
JohnFluxand it just worked.  it loaded kaffeine and just played02:03
JohnFluxthat means all my ugly scripts that I've had to use before and no longer useful02:03
JohnFluxi wish to complain! :-D  It's all becoming too easy02:04
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JohnFlux:)02:04
dawizcan anyone help with grub?02:04
hitmanWillydawiz, what exactly is the problem with it?02:04
dawizit wont install02:04
hitmanWilly?02:05
dawizi try to install and it wont install grub02:05
dawizi reboot, and i get grub>\02:05
dawizgrub>02:05
koyotehrm. amarok apparently hasn't been saving my playlists02:05
hitmanWillydawiz, ok, that's an improperly configured menu.lst02:06
dawiztrying to fix this for a day now02:06
dawizthat was one error02:06
BluesKaj!grub02:06
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:06
ryarenhitmanWilly: command not found02:06
dawizmenu.lst02:06
dawizi dont have floppy02:06
dawizi been through all the howtos02:06
dawiznone of them are working02:06
dawizi never had grub02:06
dawizthis is a fresh install02:07
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, sudo ./<name_of_pkg>.run --uninstall02:07
BluesKajdawiz: then DL and burn supergrubdisk ...it'll help you reinstall grub02:07
hitmanWillyryaren, from the directory where you have the .run file02:07
dawizim not reinstalling02:07
dawizthis is a fresh install02:07
BluesKaj reinstall grub02:07
ryarenhitmanWilly: done02:09
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-glx*02:09
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dawizthere is nothing to reinstall02:09
dawizdoes that matter?02:09
ryarenhitmanWilly: How can I see which type of Nvidia kernel modules are installed on my system?02:09
ryarenhitmanWilly: done too02:09
hitmanWillyryaren, lsmod02:09
hitmanWillyryaren, shows all modules currently installed02:10
Level15ryaren: aptitude search nvidia-kernel02:10
Tomi-idlehttp://tumbl.us/post/7678724  omg lol02:10
hitmanWillyryaren, what video card do you have?02:10
BluesKajdawiz: read this again .. DL and burn "supergrubdisk"02:10
koyoteno02:10
koyoteif I try to recreate a playlist it claims one already exists02:10
koyotebut I can't FIND it or SELECT it02:10
dawizdoes it matter if im not dual booting?02:10
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marckiehello?02:11
hitmanWillydawiz, no, it makes it easier in fact02:11
marckiehas anybody here used screenlets?02:11
ryarenhitmanWilly: Nvidia geforce 4 ti420002:11
marckie!screenlets02:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screenlets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:11
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, you need the legacy drivers then02:11
ryarenhitmanWilly: lsmod tells somekindof nvidia module is installed02:11
marckie!ping02:11
ubotuhost not found02:11
BluesKajdawiz: No02:11
ryarenhitmanWilly: nvidia               3930348  002:11
ryarenhitmanWilly: how can I uninstall this?02:12
hitmanWillyryaren, what did the dpkg cmd return?02:12
ryarenhitmanWilly: skip the deleting nvidia-glx* because it is not available02:13
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-glx02:13
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koyotewhere does amarok store playlist files by default?02:14
hitmanWillyryaren, you actually probably need the 7xxx series drivers for your vid card02:14
koyotesince the search function tyo add a playlisty I made (which apparently for some dumb reaosn IS NOT added when I save it)02:14
koyoteis also dumb, in the nonrecursive sense02:14
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ryarenhitmanWilly: Ok deleted! But lsmod tells nvidia module is loading.. Maybe I have to reboot the system?02:15
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy02:16
ryarenhitmanWilly: No, I need 96xx driver02:16
hitmanWillyryaren, not for a geforce 402:16
ryarenhitmanWilly: I had that one in the past02:16
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hitmanWillyryaren, really, i thought that was a legacy card...02:16
hitmanWillyhold on a sec...02:17
ryarenhitmanWilly: okay02:17
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ryarenhitmanWilly: I reboot the system02:17
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x_linkHi02:17
x_linkdeb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all02:18
koyote*sigh* why can't default installed default apps just handle simple stuff without breaking?02:18
x_linkIs that repo down or what?02:18
koyotesaving a playlist and ffinding it again should not require a mac.02:18
x_linkHaven't been working for a couple of days.02:18
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ryarenre02:19
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, one more thing to check02:19
hitmanWillyryaren, it is the 9x series you need btw, sorry02:20
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hitmanWillyryaren, sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-glx-legacy02:20
hitmanWillyryaren, see if that actually deletes anything02:21
dawizok im attempting supergrubdisk02:21
koyoteso, where are playlist files stored by default?02:21
koyotewhat is the file extension?02:21
ryarenhitmanWilly: as I said 9639 driver wroks fine without reboot the system, because the installation progress manually load 9639 kernel module, but after the rebooting only th 7184 kernel module loads and the X does not start..02:21
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ryarenhitmanWilly: It didn't delete anything02:22
ryarenso now all of the nvidia drivers deleted02:23
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx02:23
hitmanWillyryaren, that has the correct drivers (9x series) for that card02:24
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ryarenbut If i install the 9639 driver and reboot the system it will load the 7184 kernel module02:24
ryarenI'm sure about that02:24
hitmanWillyryaren, no it won't because there is no 7184 module for it to load :)02:25
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ryarenokay I'll try02:25
ryarenjust hold on a sec02:25
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ryarenokay No it works fine WITHOUT reboot!02:27
ryarenNow I reboot the system02:28
ryarenjust a min02:28
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marC-how do you install icon themes?02:30
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ryarenhitmanWilly: r u here?02:31
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hitmanWillyyeah, still here02:31
hitmanWillysame problem?02:32
ryarenyes02:32
hitmanWillyryaren, you said this was a fresh install, right?02:32
ryarenyes02:32
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, normally i wouldn't say this, but it sounds like something got seriously borked somewhere during install02:33
ryarenNVRM: Loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 1.0-718402:33
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marC-how do you install icon themes in kubuntu? trying to install the crystal icon theme?02:34
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, in a console try this: sudo rmmod nvidia02:34
hitmanWillyryaren, see what that returns02:34
graftmarC-: just install kde-icons-crystal02:34
ryarennothin returns02:35
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, sudo modprobe nvidia02:35
marC-graft: i dled theme from kde-look02:35
ryarenok02:35
ryarenand then?02:35
hitmanWillyryaren, anything return?02:35
marC-graft: the icon theme installer for somereason wont recognize anything in the kde crystal theme directory02:35
ryarennothin02:35
ryarenwow02:36
hitmanWillyryaren, what?02:37
ryarennow driver works fine02:37
ryarenbut02:37
ryarenIf I will reboot the system it will be okay too?02:37
hitmanWillyryaren, nope, just manually did what the installer does02:37
ryarenahh02:38
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ryarenHow can I fix this problem02:38
hitmanWillyryaren, hold on a sec, need to check something02:38
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ryarenokay02:38
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marC-Hello all, I'm trying to install this icon theme  KDE_Crystal_Diamond_2.6_Kubuntu_Mod.... I am having no such luck could anyone point me in the right direction?02:41
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bob_sinclair!cifs02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:42
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bob_sinclair!find cifs02:42
ubotuFound: libjcifs-java, libjcifs-java-doc02:42
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bob_sinclairhmm02:42
minusfind divx02:42
minus!find divx02:42
ubotuFound: divxcomp, avifile-divx-plugin02:42
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ryaren_hitmanWilly: there is something what may help in the messages log:02:43
ryaren_Aug  6 02:29:27 ryaren-home kernel: [   30.566925]  NVRM: RM/client version mismatch!!02:43
ryaren_Aug  6 02:29:27 ryaren-home kernel: [   30.566934]  NVRM:    aborting to avoid catastrophe!02:43
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hitmanWillyryaren_, ok, try this for me, sudo nano /etc/defaults/linux-restricted-modules-common02:44
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ryaren_ok02:44
hitmanWillyryaren_, then add nvidia inside the quotes02:45
ryaren_it is an empty file02:45
hitmanWillyryaren, ? nothing at all?02:45
ryaren_yep02:45
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, i think ive got the issue :)02:46
hitmanWillyryaren, exit out02:46
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ryaren_yep02:47
hitmanWillyryaren, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules02:47
ryaren_no defaults02:47
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ryaren_./etc/default02:47
ryaren_:)02:47
hitmanWillylol02:47
marC-Hello all, I'm trying to install this icon theme  KDE_Crystal_Diamond_2.6_Kubuntu_Mod.... I am having no such luck could anyone point me in the right direction?02:48
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hitmanWillyryaren, let me know what that does02:48
ryaren_hitmanWilly: It contain only this line: DISABLED_MODULES=""02:49
hitmanWillyryaren_, that's not an empty file then :)02:49
hitmanWillyryaren_, inside the quotes after that is where i needed you to add nvidia02:50
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ryaren_hitmanWilly: like this? DISABLED_MODULES="nvidia"02:50
hitmanWillyryaren, yup02:51
ryaren_and then?02:51
hitmanWillyryaren, save and exit02:51
ryaren_ok :)02:51
ryaren_reboot?02:51
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hitmanWillyryaren, yeah, there is one more thing, but see if this works first02:52
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ryaren_ok02:52
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JmanfooMaybe I'm wrong, but didn't the xscreensavers used to take a screenshot of the desk to do distortions on?02:56
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ryarenre02:56
ryarenhitmanWilly: nothing happens02:56
ryarenstill 7184 loaded02:56
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ryarenhitmanWilly: Are you here?02:58
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hitmanWillyryaren, sorry, stepped out for a sec03:01
ryarenokay03:01
hitmanWillyryaren, anything03:01
hitmanWilly?03:01
ryarenNothing03:01
ryarenstill 7184 loaded03:01
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hitmanWillythat is weird, ok...lsmod | grep nv and see what pops up03:02
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hitmanWillyryaren, actually, pastebin the output of that03:03
hitmanWilly!paste | ryaren03:03
uboturyaren: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:03
ryarenokok03:03
ryarenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32707/plain/03:03
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jagohow can i change the screen resolution of kdm to 1024 x 768 instead of 800 x 600?03:05
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, sudo nano /etc/modules and pastebin the contents of that03:05
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ryarenhitmanWilly: I manually loaded the right module! (rmmod, modprobe)03:05
ryarenit is not problem?03:05
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hitmanWillyryaren, just now or before the lsmod cmd?03:06
Jmanfoojago, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find where it says "Section Screen"03:06
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jagojmamfoo, thank you!03:07
Jmanfoochange the "virtual" line to 1024 768 instead of 800 60003:07
ryarenbefore the lsmod03:07
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, that explains it :)03:07
Jmanfoonp jago03:07
ryarenhitmanWilly: So i have to reboot again?03:07
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ryaren./etc/modules: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32708/plain/03:08
x_linkdeb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all03:08
x_linkIs that repo working for you guys?03:08
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, add nvidia to that file03:08
x_linkIt worked for me the first days, but hasn't been for the last 2-3 days now03:09
hitmanWillyryaren, then try a reboot03:09
ryarenI tried this but it didn't work03:09
ryarenbut as u wish03:09
hitmanWillyryaren, nm then03:09
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ryarenre03:13
x_linkbaah03:13
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ryarenhitmanWilly: nothin changed :(03:13
buck_i love linux03:13
Jmanfooi second that03:13
buck_forget bg03:13
MaTiAzlol03:13
ryarenhitmanWilly: whait is fuse and lp in /etc/modules ?03:13
buck_i may never buy another MS product again03:13
MaTiAzI believe in the coexistence of Linux and Windows :p03:13
hitmanWillyryaren, different modules the kernel loads03:14
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, im working on a workaround for you, hold on one sec03:14
buck_i will see if i can find a reason to use Windows..03:14
buck_well none ..03:14
buck_hahaha03:14
ryarenhitmanWilly: okay03:14
Littlebootsgames03:14
Littlebootsthat's about it03:14
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buck_no .. not games03:14
Littlebootsyes03:14
buck_i am playing ut 2k403:14
Jmanfooeh, i wish my reverse VNC and exchange calendar still worked, but other than that i don't miss windows at all03:14
Littlebootsother games03:15
MaTiAzbuck_: Games, and some other stuff03:15
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MaTiAzLike Adobe products03:15
buck_and ut3 will be released on linux too03:15
ryarenhitmanWilly: Maybe I have to delete linux-restricted-manager package...03:15
Jmanfooi dont miss adobe one bit lol03:15
Littlebootsyes, but not everyone in the world likes UT =)03:15
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MaTiAzbuck_: Umm there are MANY MANY MANY other games than UT03:15
buck_linux has some powerful art programs03:15
hitmanWillyryaren, no03:15
buck_yeah .. doom 303:15
Jmanfooscorched3d is pretty cool03:15
Littlebootsno03:15
ryarenhitmanWilly: why?03:15
Jmanfooquake 3 runs on linux03:15
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Jmanfoorailroad tycoon lol03:15
buck_if the game is worth it .. it will have a linux engine03:15
Littlebootsmost iD and epic tech runs on linux03:15
MaTiAzbuck_: Ok, gimme a program which is as capable as Macromedia Flash03:16
Littlebootseverybody else though.. not so much03:16
MaTiAzfor flash editing of course03:16
buck_maybe EPIC will release gears of war03:16
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Jmanfoouh AJAX is making flash old hat03:16
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MaTiAzJmanfoo: Well I have my reasons for using Flash03:16
Jmanfoothere's some new stuff now that will make flash obsolete03:16
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hitmanWillyryaren, ok, open a console and cd to /etc/rcc2.d03:16
MaTiAzSo I don't give a <insert bad words> about other stuff :p03:16
buck_flash is so yesterday03:16
hitmanWillysorry, rc2.d03:16
ryarendone03:17
buck_still easy03:17
buck_to use03:17
buck_and all03:17
Littlebootsnew icon themes give me the warm fuzzies03:17
MaTiAzOf course I could do that in vmware, but I prefer dualboot03:17
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hitmanWillyryaren, ok, sudo nano S99znvidia03:17
buck_than you may as well own a MAC03:17
Jmanfooi'm dual-booting Vista right now, only because I paid out the nose for the vista license with my laptop and i'm not gonna throw it away lol03:17
MaTiAzmeh03:17
buck_all that graphic art and media stuff03:17
MaTiAzJmanfoo: Same :)03:17
MaTiAzbuck_: I'm not gonna buy overpriced hardware03:18
hitmanWillyryaren, then add the following lines to it03:18
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Jmanfooi uninstalled everything i had running on vista though, except some apps i use at work03:18
whizadreeyes ! i just got my Motorola WC810b/g working with Kubuntu03:18
MaTiAzMy 1100 euro computer is much faster than the iMac with somewhat same price03:18
hitmanWilly#!/bin/sh03:18
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buck_.. if you are willing to pay for overpriced software..03:18
hitmanWillyrmmod nvidia03:18
ryarenhitmanWilly: you mean: S20nvidia-kernel03:18
hitmanWillyryaren, hold on03:18
buck_linux rox03:19
MaTiAzbuck_: Whatever, I still need Windows for some stuff03:19
MaTiAzLinux is awesome03:19
MaTiAzBut it doesn't replace Windows03:19
MaTiAzFor some people03:19
MaTiAz(not talking for everyone)03:19
ryarenhitmanWilly: ok done03:19
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hitmanWillyryaren, no, this will be a new file03:19
buck_im just impressed that it runs these games better than my windows did03:19
MaTiAzAnd I like gaming (other games than UT series) so I need Windows for that too :p03:19
ryarenhitmanWilly: okay, done03:20
hitmanWillyryaren, you added the #!/bin/sh ?03:20
ryarenhitmanWilly: yes03:20
hitmanWillyryaren, ok, add rmmod nvidia, then add modprobe nvidia03:20
buck_well if the craze catches on .. i forsee games crossplatforming like they are doing now.03:20
buck_counterstrike source03:21
ryarenhitmanWilly: S99znvidia -->  #!/bin/sh, rmmod nvidia, modprobe nvidia03:21
MaTiAzbuck_: There are only a few commercial games with Linux versions03:21
buck_damn the list goes on03:21
ryarenhitmanWilly: done03:21
MaTiAzAnd there's no reason for them to do Linux ports03:21
buck_yeah ..03:21
hitmanWillyryaren, all on different lines, correct?03:21
MaTiAzA very very small portion of gamers use Linux03:21
buck_becaue they can make more money03:21
Littlebootsthat and alot of games are written using directX03:21
ryarenhitmanWilly: of course03:21
MaTiAzLittleboots: Yeah that too03:21
hitmanWillyryaren, sometimes you'd be surprised03:21
buck_but the smart games are cross platform03:22
Littlebootsand DirectX does bring the pretties03:22
MaTiAzAnd I built my new computer specifically for gaming too, I'm not throwing Windows away :p03:22
hitmanWillyryaren, anyway, save and exit03:22
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buck_unless its an exclusive03:22
ryarenhitmanWilly: I know :)03:22
hitmanWillyryaren then chmod it +x03:22
buck_PS3 is not DX03:22
MaTiAzSo?03:22
buck_i think xbox might be03:22
MaTiAzIt is03:22
Littlebootsyeah, and it a few years it will look worse than DirectX games03:22
hitmanWillyryaren, this *should* work03:22
Littlebootsthats how it always goes03:22
Littlebootsthat's the advantage/curse pc gaming has03:22
buck_well the same games are written for both platforms.. becaue money03:23
hitmanWillyryaren, its a hack, but hopefully an effective one03:23
Littlebootsbuy a shader3 card now and in a few years you'll need a shader4 card03:23
buck_all the bitchen FPS seem to cross platform too03:23
MaTiAzLittleboots: That's just evolution :)03:23
MaTiAzI'm really waiting for UT303:23
MaTiAzI hope my Geforce 8800GTS runs it well :)03:23
buck_i have been since the begining of the year03:23
LittlebootsI know, is just that by bank account does "evolve" quite as fast03:23
MaTiAzhaha03:23
MaTiAzmine neither :>03:23
hitmanWillyryaren, once that's done, try a reboot03:24
buck_I have dual 8800 gtxs03:24
Littlebootsoh yea03:24
LittlebootsI've got03:24
buck_no ..03:24
MaTiAzbuck_: Uh, are you microsoft or something?03:24
buck_but i will03:24
MaTiAzlol03:24
buck_hahah03:24
buck_i dream ..03:24
buck_actuall i have SLI 7900 GT OC they suck03:24
MaTiAz8800 Ultra in triple SLI = dream03:24
hitmanWillyi like my 790003:25
ryarenhitmanWilly: okay i try03:25
MaTiAz8800 cards are huge :)03:25
hitmanWillyryaren, lemme know :)03:25
buck_well i am after 1 year sending mine in for replacement with BFG03:25
buck_they said i will probably be doing that again03:25
buck_i said good think you have lifetime warrenty03:25
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buck_but one shitcanned worse than the other03:26
buck_so i sent that back first03:26
buck_seems the memory on them cant handle the OC03:26
hitmanWillyhow hard is sli to pull off under linux, never tried it03:26
MaTiAzMy R9600XT broke, so I got a geforce 6200 as a replacement03:26
MaTiAzlame03:26
MaTiAzBut then my old computer broke so I had to get a new one :303:26
MaTiAzCore 2 Duo rocks03:26
Jmanfooanyone here know a lot about running VNC under linux?03:26
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whizadreeis there away of installing gnome on kubuntu ?03:26
JmanfooAMD forever baby!03:26
buck_yeah ..03:26
dawizgnome and kde dont run together03:27
Jmanfoowhizadree, just download Ubuntu03:27
buck_apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:27
hitmanWillywhizadree, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is one03:27
dawizthey are desktop environments03:27
buck_yeah .. sudo first03:27
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whizadreewell im doing udates atm03:27
hitmanWillywhizadree, you may just want to apt-get gnome instead, less ancillary programs03:28
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whizadreeand can the run lie with my other linux box ( be able to select which desktop enviro03:29
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hitmanWillywhizadree, yup03:29
whizadreenice03:29
ryarenhitmanWilly: Nice! It is working, but I really don't understand what is the problem exactly..03:29
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dawizi wish xubuntu would install03:30
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dawizor the other 11 distros ive tried03:30
hitmanWillyryaren, the kernel is trying to load the 7x module for some reason, the script I had you right just ovverrides that03:30
hitmanWilly*write03:30
ryarenhitmanWilly: Yes it is okay but How can it happen to load 71 module if it is not exist? :D03:31
hitmanWillyryaren, that's what I was trying to figure out :P03:31
jagois it possible to have kdm be one resolution and my screen be another?03:31
hitmanWillyryaren, most likely its installed somewhere under some other name03:32
ryarenhitmanWilly: No, because the kernel loaded 71 after the fresh install03:32
hitmanWillyryaren, what version, btw?03:32
ryarenhitmanWilly: 7.0403:33
hitmanWillyryaren, yeah, that's weird, ive never seen that one...03:33
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level1__hi, my computer keeps hanging.  I can move the mouse, but nothing else.  I tried to log out and its not doing anything03:33
level1__I can't even kill X with alt-ctrl-backspace03:34
hitmanWillyryaren, this was a completely fresh install, but did you import an existing home partition or anything like that?03:34
level1__this has happened several times in different situations03:35
level1__I even reinstalled and it still persists03:35
hitmanWillylevel1__, have you run a memtest recently?03:35
level1__no, its a new computer03:35
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ryarenhitmanWilly: btw I have found a forum on nvidia website where wrote thet a guy from nvidia corp. : This is a known problem with Ubuntu Linux; please uninstall the linux-restricted-modules package(s).03:36
hitmanWillyryaren, huh...03:36
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hitmanWillyryaren, probably conflicts with the prepackaged ones from nvidia03:36
level1__hitmanWilly: I just ran the memtest option from the grub menu, and it gave me an erro03:37
hitmanWillylevel1__, what kind of error?03:37
level1__"Error 28: Selected item cannot fit into memory"03:37
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level1__then it just says press enter to continue, and it delivers me back to grub03:37
ryarenhitmanWilly: completly fresh. But I had 7.04 and 9639 nvidia driver before I did the fresh installation03:37
intelikeyno free low mem ?03:37
hitmanWillylevel1__, well, it sounds like a hw problem, then03:37
ryarenhitmanWilly: and I didn't meet this problem03:38
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level1__hitmanWilly: defective ram, you mean?  should I RMA it and get more, or is there something more sinister going on?03:38
hitmanWillylevel1__, honestly, no idea, you could call the manufacturer, but don't tell them you run linux :)03:39
level1__2x 1GB sticks of GSkill ram, I thought that would be pretty kosher, guess not03:39
intelikeyhold the phone.  if he's having trubble booting it could as easily be a bios not able to read the disk partition file-system   correctly    that would explain both03:39
level1__I'll just rma it, say DOA, but you think the ram is the only problem?  Not, say, the cpu or the motherboard03:39
level1__intelikey: no, I can boot fine... most of the time03:40
hitmanWillyintelikey, you may be right...03:40
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level1__sometimes it hangs03:40
intelikeyok.   i just got here was checking.03:40
hitmanWillybut i still think it sounds like bad ram, at least in my experience03:40
level1__that would explain a lot.  I didn't know I had to test new ram03:41
intelikeyprobably is just like to leave no turn un stoned03:41
hitmanWillylevel1__, infant mortality rate is a killer :P03:41
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intelikeyi'm so used to playing with hardware never less than 5 years old that if it's not doa it's good....03:42
hitmanWillylevel1__, its a good idea to run any new hw through its paces to make sure there's no manufacturing defects03:43
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intelikeyi second that03:43
hitmanWillyintelikey, heh, build all my boxen from new parts, or at least never been used :)03:43
level1__hmmm... I tried to use a liveCD's memtest, and that's just giving me a blank screen.  It would be reassuring to see the screen come up and say "you have defective ram" rather than "error, cannot run ram test"03:44
hitmanWillylevel1__, even a RAM test needs to load in RAM...:P03:44
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level1__yeah, but if I can run the OS, I should be able to ram a ram test.  And I can run a full version of ubuntu, I even got compiz going03:45
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hitmanWillylevel1__, actually, i would open up the box and make sure everything is plugged in right and nothing shook loose during shipping03:45
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hitmanWillythat's a damn good idea03:45
level1__hitmanWilly: is there a way I can narrow it down to one stick or the other, since I have two sticks?  that way I can still play with it while waiting for the replacement ram03:45
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evri2Guys,i installed compiz-fusion in Kubuntu.I have a problem.Forexample,when i have 2 windows,i cannot focus on the back one.I mean forexample there are 2 konqueror and one is at the top and other is at the back.When i want to focus it,i have to click titlebar in order to focus.A click into anywhere but titlebar won't focus the windows.Any idea?03:46
level1__hitmanWilly: I built it myself, it wasn't shipped03:46
hitmanWillylevel1__, is it dual channel? if not pull one out and test with just that03:46
level1__hitmanWilly: its ddr2, is that dual channel?03:46
mike__evri2: Trev's repo?03:46
evri2wait i check03:47
hitmanWillylevel1__, probably not, its not that common anymore03:47
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level1__hitmanWilly: what do you mean?03:47
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evri2mike__: tuxfamily.org's repo eyecandy03:47
hitmanWillylevel1__, try with just one stick, see what happens03:47
DragnslcrI don't think any memory since SIMM has required pairing03:48
level1__hitmanWilly: it says "DUAL CHANNEL" in really big letters on the back of the box03:48
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mike__evri2: yeah, trev's repo... i'd recommend building straight from GIT. trevino's repo is really buggy these days.03:48
hitmanWillylevel1__, well, crap, that means its paired03:48
DragnslcrI know you usually get better performance from pairing, but I don't think it's required anymore03:48
adeniciohelp feisty is going crazy.first thing i want to regalate is the sound i dont have no more sound03:48
evri2well can you pass any documents for building from GIT?03:48
mike__evri2: <FusioBot> A guide to building Compiz and Compiz Fusion from GIT: http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=75803:48
hitmanWillylevel1, try what intelikey said, swap slots03:49
evri2mike__: thx03:49
nosrednaekimadenicio: I assume it was all working before?03:49
hitmanWillylevel1__, then run the memtest on that03:49
mike__evri2: follow that to a "t" and it'll be the most painless thing you ever compiled from source. :-)03:49
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adenicionosrednaekim: yea.everytime i restart feisty it give me prob asking me to run fsck then control-d03:50
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evri2mike__: well mike just one question more.Will it be easy to uninstall?03:50
mike__Has anyone here gotten the KDE 4 beta yet?03:50
nosrednaekimmike__: i'm going to03:50
nosrednaekimtomorrow03:50
mike__evri2: cd to the folder for each component "sudo make uninstall" - that's it03:50
nosrednaekimadenicio: are you shutting it down correctly?03:51
nosrednaekimadenicio: and did you recently update your kernel?03:51
BluesKajI tried the suse livecd KDE4 ...wouldn't load03:51
mike__nosrednaekim: i noticed the update mentioned on kubuntu.org and it says it's in backports, but it seems to be umm... missng here03:51
nosrednaekimmike__: you have to slelect the "unsupported updates" checkmark03:52
adenicionosrednaekim: well no i didnt shut it down corect and the updates i did that about 3d ago but cut it off because it was takin to long03:52
intelikeyadenicio until you correct the errors it will continue to do that at boot time03:52
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adenicionosrednaekim: and im new with this kubuntu thing03:52
nosrednaekimadenicio: you.. cut... off.. an update....03:52
nosrednaekimadenicio: well, go finish it, that should fix somethings03:52
nosrednaekim:)03:53
intelikeynosrednaekim not until the fs errors are corrected too03:53
adenicionosrednaekim: i had to cut updates i dont have dsl it was saying 6days to update03:53
nosrednaekimadenicio: lol.... umm do you know anyone who does have dsl?03:53
bob_sinclairevening, are there any #kubuntu ops here, that i can talk to about an issue?03:54
mike__nosrednaekim: yeah, i did. it's not there03:54
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nosrednaekimbob_sinclair: with the channel, or with kubuntu?03:54
mike__!ask | bob_sinclair03:54
ubotubob_sinclair: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:54
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bob_sinclairregarding a ban03:54
level1__hitmanWilly: I swapped them, but I still get the same error03:54
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mike__ohh. whoops.03:54
flaccidits actually flaccid here....03:54
nosrednaekimRiddell should be able to help you03:55
flaccidan operator banned me in may. i would like to get the ban removed please03:55
adenicionosrednaekim: not high speed i just came back to my country i forgot a lot of people etc i know only one that have dsl but it will take to long maybe 3days03:55
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flaccidRiddell: heya you alive - need help with a ban03:55
intelikeyadenicio you can remove the update repos and do an sudo apt-get update ;sudo apt-get upgrade     that "should" clear up the dl issue  and    you may need first  !adeptcrashfix03:55
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nosrednaekimadenicio: it will take too long on DSL?03:55
nosrednaekimadenicio: you can send them a DL list03:55
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level1__hitmanWilly: what do you think?03:55
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adenicionosrednaekim:a dl list??03:56
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nosrednaekima download list yeah.... it'll make a script for a person with DSL to download all your packages for you.03:57
nosrednaekimand they can give them to you on a USB disc or whatever03:57
adenicionosrednaekim: but he has xp not unix03:57
HayaBusahey guys, i just installed frost wire, but everytime i try to start it , all i see is the bouncing icon and nothing starts .. why03:57
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level1__intelikey: I swapped my ram and I still get the same error, what do you think?03:57
mike__HayaBusa: you do have sun-java6-jre installed, right?03:58
nosrednaekimadenicio: hmmm. you could go over and run the script off a liveCD.03:58
HayaBusaYes03:58
mike__where'd you get the package for frostwire from?03:58
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adenicionosrednaekim: where im i its like thecnologie is way behing i told everyone about linux they watching me like wa the heck im saying03:58
HayaBusai used to have it , but i had to uninstall it , and now i m trying to install it again after long time ,, but nothing starts, i did stop and restart KDM ..03:58
HayaBusai got it from thier website03:59
whizadreeanybody use wine ?03:59
mike__whizadree: yep03:59
intelikeylevel1__ hmmm  i'm still kinda leaning toward bios settings/issues    but without being there it's next to impossable for me to help with that.03:59
nosrednaekimadenicio: ah, but do you think you could boot a liveCD on your friends computer which has DSL so you could get the DL's?03:59
kewlsolutionsj/ateneo03:59
adenicionosrednaekim: wont the live cd kill all my stuff like i just install vlc etc it wont put back thing to zero?03:59
mike__HayaBusa: pastebin what it says when you try running it from the terminal03:59
nosrednaekimno, boot the liveCD on your friends computer, run the script, put the files on the USB stick and bring the files back to your omputer.04:00
nosrednaekimI'm not saying to reinstall04:00
adenicionosrednaekim: no his dsl speed is like double mine wich mine is 46kbits04:00
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nosrednaekimoh, thats still not very fast,04:00
HayaBusait says i need to upgread my JRE ..04:00
level1__intelikey: hmm... its an asus motherboard, P5B plus.04:00
HayaBusaJRE 1.5 OR newer04:01
adenicionosrednaekim: dont feisty have option like fix boot or restore system to a date?04:01
nosrednaekimadenicio: no, it does not.04:01
nosrednaekimadenicio: if you don't update, you will probably have to reinstall. Which is easier?04:01
flaccidis there some kind of font viewer available to browse available/cached fonts to X ?04:01
adenicioso once feity crash u have to reinstall?04:02
mike__HayaBusa: and you're *sure* you have the package called "sun-java6-jre" installed? (run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre")04:02
mike__adenicio: no04:02
nosrednaekimadenicio: it crashed because you stopped it half way through an update, which is not something that its prepared for.04:02
nosrednaekimit still runs,but everything is not working.04:02
mike__adenicio: did you not make backups?04:03
HayaBusasun-java-jre is already the newst version .. 0 upgread 0 install 0 remove04:03
mike__HayaBusa: sorry, not sure what to tell you... you just downloaded the deb package, right, not the source?04:04
intelikeylevel1__ asus is 'supposed' to be good,  get in the settings and see if there is anything on "low mem" or "dos mem"   but again it wouldn't hurt to try what nosrednaekim said,  try with only one stick plugged in    that could also cause funny things to happen....   "i know it shouldn't but could"04:04
adeniciomike__: im new at this i dont know how to do back ups i read about pakage back ups but its look to complicated04:04
nosrednaekimwhat did I say?04:04
flaccidHayaBusa: i think you want sun-java6-jre or sun-java5-jre and also update-alternatives for java04:04
flaccid!java04:04
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.04:04
HayaBusajust deb .. this package was installed before , nothing has changed on my system . just some other programs where installed . so i have no clue04:04
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flaccidsee above, HayaBusa04:04
nosrednaekimadenicio: you still have all your documents and all right?04:04
intelikeynosrednaekim said pull one mem stick and try it,,, didn't you ?04:05
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intelikeywas that someone else ?04:05
nosrednaekimI don't... think... so.04:05
nosrednaekimbut I WOULD reccomend that04:05
nosrednaekim;)04:05
HayaBusaThanks. i will try that04:05
adenicionosrednaekim: yea but when linux start over it change up my thing in the desktop menu bar04:05
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bionicgood morning04:06
nosrednaekimadenicio: yeah, well, back up all your documents/music/whatever.04:06
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whizadreestill got a few hours yet i hope (yep looks at clock)04:06
bionicuntil what whizadree04:06
khaije1!bluetooth04:06
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup04:06
intelikeymaybe it was the hitmanWilly04:06
adenicionosrednaekim: all that is on xp i use shortcut04:06
whizadreemorning04:07
whizadree:)04:07
intelikey</shrugs>   long nicks all look alike04:07
nosrednaekimadenicio: ah, ok, great04:07
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intelikey:)04:07
intelikeyi am.04:07
Geekosaurdthacker: if you are still there, my system went down again - a pwer problem - and I am now up again.  Thanks for the hint lpstat led mw to it04:07
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bionicracist is what a racist does04:07
intelikeyi like the human race.04:07
nosrednaekimand that he has trouble remembering what he sees on a black and white text screen.04:07
whizadreewho won the human race and when did it start?04:08
adenicionosrednaekim: wa u want me to do reinstall feity?i dont tink its a posibility my dvd player is not top shap04:08
dthackerGeekosaur: great news!  yw :)04:08
nosrednaekimadenicio: how did you install in the first place?04:08
bionicthe whites did whizadree04:08
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intelikeywhizadree started long ago but it's not over yet.04:08
yurimxpxmanI'm trying to encode all the wav files in a directory with lame, and lame requires a single input filename and a single output filename. I figured out how to get the input one at a time, but I don't know how to get the output names, which would be the same as the input but with the .mp3 extension instead of .wav. Any ideas? Here's what I have so far: find *.wav -print0|xargs -0 lame -V004:08
nosrednaekimyurimxpxman: might just want to write a little script04:08
whizadreeintelikey whos winning?04:09
bionicthe white people04:09
intelikeythe humans04:10
whizadreeheh04:10
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intelikey"kinda hard to argue with isn't it."04:11
adenicionosrednaekim: the cd04:11
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nosrednaekimadenicio: hmmm well you might want to either try waiting 6 days for updates.... or reinstalling.04:12
mike__nosrednaekim: he already tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ?04:12
bionici love cock04:13
bionici mean04:13
bionicyou love cock04:13
adenicionosrednaekim: lol at least if it possible to help me get back the sound04:13
mike__nosrednaekim: w/o an internet connection, i mean04:13
bionicadenicio: try connecting the the cord up to other jacks of the sound card04:14
nosrednaekimadenicio: I'm not really going to try that.... you have a messed up system.....04:14
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intelikeyfind /base/dir/ -type f -iname *.wav -print '{}' \; | while read Q ;do your.command $Q $Q.newext ;done       yurimxpxman04:14
nosrednaekimmike__: yeah, well,with a Dial up connection.04:14
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adeniciobionic: there only one and i had the sound untill i restart the pc04:15
mike__nosrednaekim: what i mean though, is if he did it w/o *any* connection, wouldn't it just downgrade everything to the packages that are locally on his system?04:15
adeniciowhy is linux so hard?but its fun to play with:)04:15
flaccidlinux is easy, you just have to learn it from a good source04:16
mike__adenicio: anything worth having isn't easy at first ;-)04:16
ardchoilleadenicio: I have an eight year old niece who uses Linux and she says it's easy.04:16
nosrednaekimmike__: no, because the package files are not on his HD04:16
mike__lol04:16
mike__oh ok04:16
flaccidhmmm04:16
flaccidbrb04:16
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adenicionosrednaekim: is it possible to get the 3d desktop with a via graphic card?04:17
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intelikeyardchoille i have a 66yo mother that thinks linux is the only os...04:17
adenicioflaccid: it's not for beginners04:17
nosrednaekimadenicio: its pretty complicated as far as i've heard04:17
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intelikeyadenicio running it or setting it up ?04:17
adenicioflaccid: i still dont understand these -a -p -v them thing look like crazyness04:18
mike__adenicio: everyone was a beginner at some point04:18
nosrednaekimadenicio: read the man page for the command and you will understand what they do04:18
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evjunior09Hey i need to make a slideshow with Music and such. Is there a thingy like Windows Media Player for Kubuntu?04:19
intelikeyi've made up my mind, i'm going to be a beginner for the next 14.5 years and then graduate to novice04:20
adeniciointelikey: lol04:20
nosrednaekimevjunior09: I think OO can do that.04:20
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evjunior09nosrednaekim: OO?04:21
intelikeyoo.o04:21
nosrednaekimopenoffice.04:21
intelikeydot org04:21
nosrednaekimoh, you don't mean a powerpoint?04:21
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whizadreea powerpuff04:21
nosrednaekimwatch your language BOY!04:21
evjunior09No, a slideshow with music04:21
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adenicio!adeptcrashfix04:22
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:22
intelikeynosrednaekim heh.   is bitchx offencive ?04:22
nosrednaekimevjunior09: hmm... I don't know. Kino maybe?04:22
nosrednaekimI was kiddin04:23
evjunior09Whats Kino04:23
nosrednaekima video editor or something.04:23
nosrednaekim!info kino04:23
ubotukino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.92-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1126 kB, installed size 3912 kB04:23
nosrednaekimmaybe not.04:23
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intelikeydog gone, 4m installed... i didn't think it was that big04:24
mike__evjunior09: ManDVD can do that04:24
evjunior09Hmm... Dangit04:24
bionicubotu your dumb04:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about your dumb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:24
evjunior09manDVD?04:24
mike__evjunior09: you can get that at http://www.getdeb.net04:24
arrautzai'm sort of desperate... i know this is a stupid question... can anyone tell me how to make a line equation on oppenofices graphics???04:25
evjunior09mike__:cant you just apt-get it?04:25
mike__evjunior09: it wasn't in the repos last time i checked04:25
ardchoilleintelikey: W00T!04:25
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intelikeykino04:25
bionickino04:26
nosrednaekimarrautza: #oo.o04:26
nosrednaekimwait.. whats the channel?04:26
bionicis there anyway i can win lotto from programming a script in linux04:26
intelikeyhow do you program a script ?04:27
evjunior09haha04:27
bionicyou tell me04:27
bionici mean write04:27
bionicyes04:27
intelikeyoh   ooops.04:27
evilmmBASH?04:27
bioniccan you right me one intelikey04:27
bionicwrite04:28
intelikeysure.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3869904:28
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intelikeyhere's ya another  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3870004:28
intelikeyanything else ?04:29
intelikey:)04:29
bob_sinclairi can too. echo 'Hello World!'04:29
intelikeybob_sinclair  echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\necho "hello $USER" ' > myscript.sh ;chmod 755 myscript.sh04:30
nosrednaekimand here is one in aother language http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3870104:30
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bob_sinclairlol takes less effort to just type whoami04:31
intelikeynosrednaekim py ?04:31
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nosrednaekimindeed04:31
nosrednaekimbetter than that bash junk ;)04:32
intelikeyi don't play with snakes but i thought i recognized it04:32
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nosrednaekimwatch it... i'll sic one on you.04:32
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intelikeynosrednaekim i don't normally code in "bash"   fully posix compliant here mate.04:33
MaxdamantusJust wondering.. In parted, when you use the "check" command, in the time left, does it display it as hours:minutes, or minutes:seconds?04:33
nosrednaekimexcuse me "sh"04:33
intelikey:)04:33
nosrednaekimanyway, have to go all. talk to ya'll later04:34
intelikeymax is it counting down slowly or quickly ?04:34
intelikey:)04:34
bionici just made a cuppa tea04:34
bionicits rainning here04:34
intelikeyi'm trolling now.04:34
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jryhigginshi04:35
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bionichi04:35
jryhigginscan someone tell me how to change my resolution?04:35
bob_sinclairjryhiggins: goto system settings | display04:35
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bionicctrl alt and backspace04:35
intelikeykmenu > system settings > monitor something > rez04:35
bionicwhat resolution do you use intelikey ?04:35
bob_sinclairmonitor & display04:36
intelikeythat's it04:36
bionicwhat resolution do think is the best04:36
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jryhigginsit wont let me set it higher than 640x80004:36
bionicdownload the drivers04:36
bob_sinclairjryhiggins: need to set video driver then04:36
BluesKajprolly need admin mode to change the resolution04:36
intelikeybionic current SHELLTYPE: BASH  @  80 x 2504:36
Littlebootseh04:36
bionicahha04:36
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jryhigginsyeah i cant seam to find the right restricted module to set nvidia driver up, i know the tutorial like the back of my hand, any suggestions?04:37
intelikey640x800 ???    </blinks>04:37
bob_sinclairjryhiggins: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new nvidia-kernel-common04:37
jryhigginsim running fiesty. on an amd 32bit +320004:37
jryhigginsthe card is an mx44004:37
Littlebootsyou don't get the nvidia splash screen before X starts?04:38
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intelikeybob_sinclair 24" short screens   ;/04:38
_ronanyone know why I'm now getting a mimetype error after doing updates?  I'm guessing a package didn't install correctly, but don't know which one04:38
bob_sinclairif you change kernel versions, you have to reinstall the video driver as nvidia is a kernel mod (blob)04:39
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jryhigginsyeah what restricted module do i need?04:39
bob_sinclairintelikey: im just lucky i didn't have to pay for them04:39
_ronand I have no KDE icons anywhere04:39
Littleboots=004:39
bionicme to04:39
bob_sinclairjryhiggins: the one that comes in the packages. all you need to do resinstall/install nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-kernel-common ..04:40
bob_sinclair!nvidia04:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:40
intelikeyi wish my nvidia card was supported04:40
bob_sinclairor just follow that...04:40
bob_sinclairi wish ati would get their fingers out of their um behind04:40
jryhigginsi allready know that..... but thnx, i just need to know what restricted module i need...04:41
Littlebootsalso, make sure to set your monitor to something besides "generic monitor" or what ever04:41
Littlebootseven after I installed my drivers I couldn't change the res untill I did that04:41
bob_sinclairjryhiggins: why do you need to know what. you need the restricted mod for nvidia. its all on the page above.04:41
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jryhigginsLittleboots: you mean in the xorg.conf? what do you mean by "set"04:41
jryhiggins?04:41
Littlebootskmenu->system settings->display04:42
Littlebootsthen.. hold on04:42
bob_sinclairyou don't have to do it in xorg.conf, system settings can do that for you via gui04:42
jryhigginsbob_sinclair: becuas ei have tried them all individually and none seam to work.04:42
Littlebootsthen goto the hardware tab04:42
bob_sinclairjryhiggins: if you would just do what i say and reinstall those two packages. it will work and if it doesn't you need to cite an error message or something..04:42
_ronanyone know which KDE package contains the info about mimetypes and the display icons?04:42
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whizadreeis there away of skipping the network card on load with the livecd04:43
bob_sinclairtrying to install a restricted mod manually is not going to get you anywhere..04:43
level1__intelikey, hitmanWilly: if your still there, I'm running the memtest86 cd, and its about 47% finished, no errors yet.04:43
BluesKajron , right click on the app icon, choose properties , click the iconand a choice dailog will pop up04:43
intelikeylevel1__ did you change anything in bios ?      just curious.04:44
SkeithWhen installing the KDE4 beta, I don't understand how to do the export commands04:44
whizadreedarn04:44
whizadreelighting storm04:44
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BluesKaj_ron:  did you get that ?04:44
_ronBluesKaj....my problem is I ran adept_manager and after the updates I have no icons anywhere and everytime a application starts I get a mime type error of some sort04:45
jryhigginsanotheer thing, my tool bar that is defualt with kubuntu, the one with the KDE menu on it, has dissapeared, how do i fix this?04:45
intelikeykicker04:46
_ronso reselecting an single icon is not a solution...I can't spend the time doing that for every menu entry04:46
bob_sinclairrun kicker command04:46
jryhigginsintelikey: your telling me if kicker isnt running, the taskbar wont show?04:46
intelikeyjryhiggins kicker is the taskbar04:46
Level15jryhiggins: well, kicker IS the taskbar... along with another couple of things04:46
jryhigginsthank you ill check on the service04:47
SkeithI think I'm missing something simple with the KDE4 beta installation, but it tells me to run some export commands but I don't know what to do04:47
bob_sinclairthere are kicker alternatives however04:47
jryhigginssays kicker is allready running04:47
intelikeyhe did say "my tool bar that is defualt with kubuntu"04:47
bob_sinclairindeed04:47
bob_sinclairpeople like options :)04:47
intelikeyjryhiggins      killall kicker ;kicker04:48
Level15options are fine... but i think havin *so* many of them in the FOSS is preventing linux from growing stronger on the desktop...04:48
Littlebootsyeah, I can see that04:49
intelikeyLevel15 could be.   if so i'm glad it's not growing.04:49
_ronso no one knows which KDE package contains the icon set?04:49
Littlebootstoo many options can be overwelming04:49
bob_sinclairLevel15: pretty much04:49
Level15it's... sad04:49
bob_sinclairits growing everyday04:49
Skeithwho do I ask for help for the beta 1 install?04:49
BluesKajsorry _ron , I don't understand, what about just adding the apps to the desktop again ?04:49
bob_sinclairand the ubuntu-doc team still don't think a single handbook is a good idea. they would rather duplication in the wiki...04:50
jryhigginsintelikey: kicker is running, what else could it be? and whats the best way to check my services?04:50
bob_sinclairjryhiggins: check that kicker is not hidden - coz you can do that04:50
Level15here's a solution for people who completely broke their KDE... mv .kde .kdeold, then logout and back in...04:50
jryhigginsbob_sinclair: and hopw do i do that?04:50
bob_sinclairLevel15: thats a bad suggestion if you wanna keep your profile04:50
_ronBluesKaj: imagine your desktop (the menus and everything) with no icons at all....nada....my kicker is entirely grey with not a single icon on it04:51
intelikeyjryhiggins did you try killing it and restarting it ?    are you running beryl or compiz ?    when did this start, what had you done ?     info please.04:51
bob_sinclairjryhiggins: there is usually a arrow on the side of the kicker to move back on the screen depending how you made it look04:51
Level15yeah, but damn efective to give you a clean start ;)04:51
Littlebootsdoes apt keep track of changes so they can be "undone"?04:51
jryhigginsbob_sinclair: lol, no man its Not there, lol not hidden but not there04:51
bob_sinclairLevel15: it doesn't fix anything...04:51
Level15Littleboots: well, you can uninstall packages...04:51
_ronBluesKaj: this happened after I ran the adept_manager and did updates on a fresh install04:51
LittlebootsI'm asking for his problem ^04:51
bob_sinclairjryhiggins: perhaps #kde can help you further. when its hidden with no arrows on the side you won't see it at all..04:52
LittlebootsI doubt he has a mental list of the updates apt did04:52
Level15bob_sinclair: if u say so...04:52
_ronBluesKaj: so now I'm trying to figure out what packages to try to force the system to reinstall to get the system back to normal04:52
bob_sinclairLevel15: i'd rather find the problem and fix it, rather than loose everything i've customised and saved etc.04:52
intelikeyLittleboots in /etc/log/dpkg.log04:52
Littlebootscool04:53
bob_sinclairits a large sacrifice04:53
Level15bob_sinclair: yeah, but not everybody is willing to dive into .kde and find what to change...04:53
_ronI have to say I think the adept_manager needs a little more resiliency built into it compared to other distributions update managers I've used04:53
Littlebootsso next question, is there any way to tell apt to un-update what it updated?04:53
intelikeybob yeah it wouldn't be possable to reproduce this system from scratch04:53
Level15Littleboots: not that i know of04:53
LittlebootsI use aptitude _ron04:53
bob_sinclairLevel15: you don't have to. and there is #kubuntu and #kde for help04:53
LittlebootsI like it a little better04:53
level1__intelikey: I change a few things in the bios, I don't remember what.  Maybe I can look and see if I can fix it?  or do bioses usually have a "reset to defaults" feature?04:54
_ronLittleboots: little late now...adept_manager has already broke my system....now I need to fix it or reinstall04:54
level1__Level15: we sohuld be freinds04:54
intelikeyLittleboots oh and aptitude keeps a seperate record too04:54
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Level15level1__: yeah, we should :P04:54
Level15level1__: how did you choose your nicK?04:54
flaccidits me intelikey. flaccid is actually banned here coz if an ignorant op04:54
BluesKaj_ron: ctrl+alt+F2, then after entering this command ;' sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a '04:54
intelikeylevel1__ most do have a "defaults" setting   or  reset feture04:55
intelikeylol04:55
Level15flaccid: well... i've found some settings to be rather cryptic under .kde... specially some konqueror stuff04:55
level1__Level15: I'm bad a video games, and a freind said that I play like a level 1 computer04:55
intelikeyflaccid wow    lol  that one got me....    :)04:55
BluesKaj_ron: then ctrl+alt+F7 to return to the desktop04:55
flaccidLevel15: totally. but you don't look there. you look in kde startup log04:55
Level15level1__: lol! i chose mine b/c of cisco admin levels04:55
Level15flaccid: haven't tried that. Will do next time i break up something :P04:56
_ronBluesKaj: that's not the problem....my dpkg "thinks" everything is fine....somewhere the packages just aren't right04:56
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_ronI ran it though....no output04:56
Level15_ron: what are the symptoms, exactly?04:56
flaccidanybody here know LjL, thats the person that banned me heh04:57
flaccidan op that never helps heh04:57
intelikeyflaccid is there actually a ban you need addressed ?04:57
flaccidyeah04:57
_ronLevel15: I have no icons anywhere on my desktop...kicker, kicker menu, they are all gone....and I get a mime type error whenever I run an application04:57
flaccidits a rangeband on my whole domain at home04:57
intelikeyk let me see if i can do anything.   but i promice nothing.04:57
BluesKajflaccid:  that lasdt remark din't help your cause04:57
flaccidBluesKaj: then what will04:58
Level15dude... try logging in with a new user to see if the problem comes from your particular user config or it's a problem with kde itself04:58
_ronwell it was working fine until adept_manager updated my system04:58
flaccidLevel15: thats a more gradual approach, nice :)04:58
Level15flaccid: well, yeah, i just suggested cleaning everything up... doesn't mean i regularly do it ;)04:59
Level15i did have to do it once b/c konq was completely messed up...04:59
Level15but i just removed everything konq related04:59
flaccidlooking at logs/output of startkde will usually pinpoint the problem and you don't have to guess04:59
level1__intelikey: memtest86 did not find any errors, so maybe it isn't my ram05:00
Level15well, last time i looked at startkde output was with kde 2 or something, and they were pretty... noisy, so to speak05:00
Level15level1__: what are you fighting against?05:00
flaccidgoogling errors from startkde usually helps a lot05:01
Level15hey, i can add more physical volumes to a volume group, right? and after that, i can extend a logical volume to use them, right?05:01
level1__Level15: well, I've had some weird errors, hangups and stuff, and some of the guys thought it sounded like defective ram05:02
Level15level1__: do you run other OSs there?05:03
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SkeithI'm having problems running the KDE4 beta 1, when I try and start it from kdm it crashes back to kdm05:06
Littleboots=(05:06
SkeithI edited the xessions file and put the export commands, but it still crashes05:08
BluesKajSkeith, i couldn't even get the live cd to run ...dunno why05:08
Skeiththanks05:09
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Level15./navigator-bin05:10
Level15bash: ./navigator-bin: No such file or directory05:10
Level15the file IS there...05:10
Level15i can ls it05:10
Level15bash completes the name...05:10
hitmanWillyLevel15, try with sh05:10
Level15ideas?05:10
hitmanWillyLevel15, ie sh ./navigator-bin05:11
hitmanWillyLevel15, or chmod +x it05:11
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rexman!help05:11
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:11
Level15it is executable, and is not a script so "sh" is not good idea05:11
Level15this is bizarre...05:12
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hitmanWillyLevel15, you could try with exec05:12
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Level15didn't work...05:13
Level15hmmm05:13
hitmanWillyLevel15, you sure its perms are set correctly?05:13
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Level15i think it's b/c it's a 32 bit executable on my 64 bit kubuntu... the strange thing is that it ran before i reinstalled05:13
adenicior05:13
Level15-rwxr-xr-x 1 ejortegau ejortegau 12405396 2007-07-10 13:26 navigator-bin05:13
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Junoshould I get fiesty or dapper?05:15
Level15Juno: whant LTS?05:16
Level15*want05:16
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Junonot exactly sure what LTS refers to.  are they not going to continue updating fiesty?05:17
intelikeyflaccid i looked and don't see that ip in any b class bans05:17
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Level15Juno: yes, but not for 5 years...05:18
Level15i actually dunno how long will they be maintaining it05:18
Junoso dapper is almost like a permanent build?05:18
hitmanWilly!lts | juno05:18
ubotujuno: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.05:18
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rexmancan anyone support me please, i am in Kubuntu dapper 64 bits and i would like to go to feigdty without downloading it again how can i dist upgrade i used gksu "update-manager -c" and nothing happens05:18
guyllfyreHi, I'm feeling like a bit of a retard but I can't figure out an easy way tp access and/or eject the CD-ROM in Kubuntu.05:19
Level15guyllfyre: try eject05:19
hitmanWillyrexman, upgrade to edgy first05:19
guyllfyreI can get to it via media/cdrom005:19
guyllfyreTry eject where?05:19
rexmanhitmanWilly: how can i do that?? :/ please help i am a noob05:19
Level15console05:19
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guyllfyreDon'05:19
guyllfyreDon't wish to type each time I want to eject a CD.05:20
intelikeyrexman gksu ?     gnome ?05:20
guyllfyreMedia centeric, mouse actions.05:20
hitmanWillyrexman, did you try the tutorial?05:20
Level15guyllfyre:  well, when you insert a CD, a CD icon should show up in your desktop05:20
rexmanintelikey: i am usin kubuntu, and i downloaded gksu, but it doesnt do a thing05:20
rexmanhitmanWilly: yes...05:20
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guyllfyreI don't get a CD icon on my desktop.05:20
Level15guyllfyre: what version are you running?05:20
intelikeyrexman kdesu blah05:20
guyllfyreI can access it only via /media/cdrom005:21
guyllfyre7.0405:21
flaccidintelikey: i see it in the ban list as *!*@hardtrance.biz05:21
guyllfyreIt's a CD-RW + DVD-ROM05:21
guyllfyreCombo drive.05:21
intelikeyflaccid ok i guess i just overlooked it.05:21
hitmanWillyrexman, substitute kdesu for gksu whenever it comes up05:21
Junowhy arent there any american servers to download kubuntu from?05:21
flaccidintelikey: was on 12/0505:21
Level15guyllfyre: weirdo...05:22
guyllfyreI can't get a search to find the problem I'm having on the forums.05:22
guyllfyreWas hoping someone could help.05:22
guyllfyreOr google..05:22
rexmankdesu it is not found neithwer in repos or installed, hitmanWilly05:22
Level15well, i guess you can link or something, then right click to eject05:22
rexmanneither*05:22
Level15or maybe your desktop is configured not to show icons05:22
guyllfyreHow do I make it show icons?05:22
guyllfyreI couldn't find that setting.05:22
hitmanWillyrexman, kdesu? that comes with kubuntu by default05:22
rexmanhitmanWilly: oh sorry my bad yes it is05:23
guyllfyreIt's bare except the Windows share I mounted in my fstab.05:23
intelikeyrexman you can test in a konsole      gksu echo yes       or any of the sudo apps for that matter   sudo echo yes    if your sudo is working it asks password and says yes05:23
hitmanWillytypo?05:23
rexmanintelikey: in console it gives me some GLX errors, and in command line nothing happens05:23
Level15guyllfyre: is there an icon on the desktop?05:23
intelikeykonsole  not console05:23
guyllfyreYes05:23
whizadreeis there a better installer other than adept05:24
guyllfyreIt's my mounted share for my Windows server drive.05:24
Level15guyllfyre: is there a CD on the CD drive?05:24
guyllfyreThere is a DVD in the drive currently.05:24
rexmanintelikey: same thing :), the black thingy were you write :305:24
intelikeykonsole = terminal emulator for the kde     console = tty   or  virtual terminal.05:24
Level15DVD like data DVD?05:24
hitmanWillywhizadree, either apt-get or aptitude from cli, or synaptic from gui05:24
guyllfyreMov05:24
guyllfyreeMovie05:24
intelikeynot the same05:24
intelikeynot even close really05:24
Level15guyllfyre: plz insert a data CD/DVD... just to try05:25
guyllfyreBut a DVD movie is just a data DVD.05:25
intelikeykonsole runs in kde while kde is running in xorg which is running in a console05:25
rexmanintelikey: okey my bad...... but it doesnt work :) neither way05:25
Level15guyllfyre: dunno really05:25
guyllfyreWell, how do I eject the DVD now?05:25
guyllfyreWait05:25
guyllfyreConsole05:25
Level15yup05:25
intelikeyrexman then i sujest you have a broken   'root jr.' account.    i.e.  you are not in the admin group or your /etc/sudoers file is hosed05:26
guyllfyreGrabbing the keyboard is inconvenient when I'm lying here in bed.05:26
intelikeyassumes defaults   ^05:26
rexmanintelikey: ........ okey....05:26
guyllfyreOK, threw a CD in05:26
guyllfyreData CD.05:26
guyllfyreNothing showed up on the desktop.05:26
Level15that sucks...05:27
Level15hmm05:27
Junois there an american mirror where I can download kubuntu?05:27
guyllfyreCan't browse it either.05:27
Level15suboptimal, but try this: right click on desktop, new link to device05:27
intelikeyrexman simple answer,  you reboot to single user mode or boot a live CD   or boot to init=/bin/bash (the later is not for the novice)     and correct the problem.05:27
kalorin`guyllfyre: are you running an ATI Video card?05:28
hitmanWillyguyllfyre, i suspect the problem is with fstab05:28
guyllfyrenVidia video card.05:28
guyllfyreQuadra 64M05:28
kalorin`hitmanWilly: I had an ATI card until last night and it never showed drives on the desktop for me05:28
kalorin`ah05:28
kalorin`btw, those acer x221wd screens suck compared to the viewsonic 226bw's I picked up tonight05:29
hitmanWillyguyllfyre, can you pastebin /etc/fstab please?05:29
kalorin`side by side was ugly for the acer as far as color depth05:29
guyllfyreWell, adding the icon to the desktop made the access easier.05:29
hitmanWilly!paste guyllfyre05:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paste guyllfyre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:29
Level15hitmanWilly: don't think so... flash drives are not on fstab and they create icons on desktop...05:29
guyllfyreWorks fine for me.05:29
kalorin`3000:1 contrast is no joke05:29
Level15this just proves my absolute ignorance about HAL, DBUS and KDE :D05:29
hitmanWillyLevel15, no, but anything in fstab that's set up correctly should show on the desktop05:30
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hitmanWillythen again, im no guru on the automounting subject either :P05:30
raylucan someone help me set up samba and swat with xinetd?05:30
intelikeyhitmanWilly that assumes default desktop settings.   you can switch on/off device icons05:31
guyllfyreSorry, I'm not pasting my fstab.05:31
guyllfyreThe icon on the desktop is good enough for now.05:31
guyllfyreThank you.05:31
Level15guyllfyre: ok05:31
Level15./navigator-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:31
hitmanWillyintelikey, sorry, just assumed the default setup05:31
Level15now, where do i get that thingy from?05:31
raylu!gtk05:31
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI05:31
whizadreewas someone asking about NTFS , cause have they tried using the NTFS Config tool ?05:31
raylu!info gtk | Level1505:32
hitmanWillyLevel15, that's where the 64 vs 32 bit comes into play05:32
ubotulevel15: Package gtk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:32
rayluo.0, oops05:32
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guyllfyreWhen you mount Windows Shares.05:32
Level15guyllfyre: good point05:32
guyllfyreWhich require information about usernames and locations of password files.05:32
intelikeywindows is it's own security hole....05:32
Level15!libgtk-x1105:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libgtk-x11 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:32
Level15!libgtk05:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libgtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:32
Level15crap05:32
intelikey</shrugs>05:32
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guyllfyreI use 2k, 2l\k3, and XP.05:33
guyllfyreWindows is fine if you're not a moron.05:33
MaTiAzyeah05:33
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kalorin`guns don't kill people, people kill people.... windows doesn't hack windows, people hack windows :)05:33
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Level15i know there's  some 32 library that i can use... only problem is i don't know which one...05:33
MaTiAz:)05:33
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guyllfyreI run 3 month uptimes on XP workstations.05:34
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guyllfyreTo ach his own.05:34
kalorin`I do on XP vmware instances :)05:34
guyllfyreMy usual box is XP.05:34
guyllfyreBut I've decided that I'm not going Vista.05:34
moron2i ran a pentium I @100 MHz for 10 months as email server...05:34
guyllfyreIt's been the kick in the pants to actually settle on a distro instead of just playing.05:34
kalorin`guyllfyre: I did that a few months back :)05:34
whizadreeno way , stay well away from vista05:34
guyllfyreAnd learn a bit more about Linux.05:35
guyllfyreI'm heading to bed.05:35
moron3what, the continuous phoning home or the MASSIVE bloat?05:35
whizadreea bit///?05:35
guyllfyreThank you for the help.05:35
intelikeyguyllfyre i have one word for you    E.U.L.A.   read it sometime.   you'll never use windows again.05:35
guyllfyreEULA is not legally enforcable in most courts.05:35
Littlebootswell05:35
guyllfyreThey're onerous but just lame mostly.05:35
whizadreeEULA - sell your soul and everything else to satan05:35
guyllfyreI've read chunks of it.05:35
LittlebootsEULA s aren't laws but..05:35
LittlebootsI'm sure MS could get there way in court05:36
guyllfyreNobody abides and they don't stand up.05:36
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Littleboots*their05:36
moron2Littleboots: sure, they can bribe the judge... again05:36
guyllfyreH||They haven't yet.05:36
guyllfyreNot when it comes to the EULA.05:36
whizadreewell thats because of money05:36
kalorin`why bribe05:36
rayluthey don't need to05:36
whizadreenot the EULA05:36
kalorin`you ca'nt afford the legal battle05:36
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raylujust suing means that you'll probably end up settling (what kalorin` said)05:36
intelikeyso if everyone else shoots their self in the foot will you ?05:36
kalorin`they'd just suck you dry over time with infinite staff lawyers and continuances05:36
moron3guyllfyre, ok, but it doesn't matter if you win or not when your legal fees start to stack up05:36
rayluintelikey, if i get enough xp for it, yes05:36
intelikeyraylu gamer05:37
intelikey:)05:37
zimmointelikey: i solved my problem three hours trying to find out what was happening haha05:37
guyllfyreAnd when's the last time MS came after you weilding the EULA?05:37
guyllfyreThey go copyright first.05:37
zimmorelieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeef man!05:37
guyllfyreHeh05:37
guyllfyre'night guys.05:37
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rayluso, anyone want to help me set up samba?05:37
kalorin`nah I gotta take a nap and then be in at 2am05:38
kalorin`almost not worth taking the nap at this point :(05:38
kalorin`sucks05:38
kalorin`physically go down to the office05:38
kalorin`who ever heard of such a thing!05:38
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whizadreei never do05:38
whizadreemy office is my laptop05:38
kalorin`heh05:38
kalorin`<---- data systems manageer05:38
hitmanWillywhizadree, must be nice...05:38
kalorin`not allow to physically  move the machines or install anything on them05:39
whizadreeVirtual Network Admin <<<<05:39
kalorin`I just am responsible for everything related to thier well being05:39
intelikeyguyllfyre the last time i tried to install anything made by M$      doesn't matter if anyone knows whether or not i abide by the agreement,  i'm not going to purger myself,   the question is  "do you accept these terms or not"    the answer is NO   and when you click the yes and continue you are lying and making your self a lier and purgered person.05:39
kalorin`intelikey: I'm ok with lying to them05:39
kalorin`:)05:39
rayluwhen ms declare they were not a party to the gpl, a lot of slashdotters posted that05:40
intelikeykalorin` you are ok with being a lier ?05:40
rayluthey weren't a party to the ms eula05:40
raylu*declared05:40
kalorin`intelikey: well, I'm just treating them how they treat me05:40
kalorin`they lied first :)05:40
whizadreeyou just say you have a problem where yes means no and no means yes05:40
intelikeykalorin` and you are ok with being a lier ?05:40
intelikeysee my point.05:40
raylukalorin`, if a man shoots you in the head, do you shoot him back? :P05:40
intelikeyi'll drop it now.05:40
kalorin`notice my windows box is a vmware instance at work05:41
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kalorin`raylu, hpoefully I notice he's GOING to shoot me in the head and shoot first05:41
kalorin`and I'm only runing XP on that for outlook and informatica tools (both of which are windows only)05:41
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raylumore importantly, what do the flags in xinetd mean?05:41
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intelikeyand one other thing      speed limit  does not mean "lower limit"   just for those of you that always try to stay just above it....05:42
Littlebootskinda like the lines in the middle of the road aren't suggestions?05:42
hitmanWillyintelikey, i break the speed limit all the time, just I don't complain when I get pulled over for it05:42
intelikeythere are a lot just like you hitmanWilly05:43
kalorin`ok nap time05:43
whizadreea nap ....05:43
whizadreewhats a nap05:43
kalorin`<---- like willy05:43
raylukalorin`, is changing runlevels, that's all05:43
kalorin`free willy05:43
hitmanWillyintelikey, the difference is im willing to accept the consequences of my actions, not try to wrangle out of them05:44
rayluand how do i configure a port for xinetd?05:44
intelikeywhizadree that rest between last typed and what happened to my computer == nap05:44
whizadreemore like kwilly05:44
ubuntui need help05:44
hitmanWillywhizadree, actually, i use window maker :P05:44
ubuntudownload a plugin for konquer05:44
ubuntudownloading05:44
ubuntui got it downloaded05:44
ubuntubut it wont' open05:44
ubuntuits for buzzen chat05:45
hitmanWillywhizadree, so kwilly is somewhat inaccurate :)05:45
ubuntuor something like that05:45
ubuntuits a exe05:45
Littleboots...05:45
ubuntuand wont' open too install05:45
Littlebootstroll?05:45
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intelikeyhitmanWilly difference in ?     heh like i said there are a lot just like you.     "laws are made to be broken"  and  "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"    attitudes....05:45
ubuntucan someone help me?05:46
Level15!ask05:46
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:46
intelikeybeen there, don't that.    new leaf now.05:46
intelikeyubuntu with ?05:46
ubuntui need too know how too open a exe file05:46
Littlebootsubuntu: if the file as a "*.exe" extension its probably a win32 executable05:46
ubuntuif it can be done on linux?05:46
rayluubuntu, what is buzzen chat?05:46
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Level15finally got my navigator running...05:46
ubuntuill show ya05:46
intelikeyubuntu    install wine   and    wine /path/to/filename.exe05:46
whizadreeanyone here ever heard of tkedit and tkview?05:47
rayluintelikey, <ubuntu> download a plugin for konquer05:47
ubuntuhttp://www.buzzen.com/chat/chatwithfirefox.php05:47
ubuntuthat is wat it is05:47
MaxdamantusHmm.. Is it possible to mount a temporary fs directly from the RAM?05:47
hitmanWillyLevel15, lemme guess, a LOT of linking :)05:47
ubuntubut its pointing to firefox plugin05:47
intelikeybuuntu  but you don't what that.05:47
ubuntui dunno y05:47
mecannotreadubuntu  to open the file exe you need to install wine05:47
Level15hitmanWilly: nah, just finding the name of the frigging 32 bit library i needed...05:47
ubuntuoh alright05:47
hitmanWillyahhh05:47
Level15after that was just apt-get install05:47
ubuntucan i get that that from going too05:48
intelikeycause you want something from the repos to do that05:48
Littlebootsgoogle =p05:48
hitmanWillyive really got to start looking into setting up a multi-arch install05:48
ubuntuwell u know05:48
ubuntuthe package install thing05:48
intelikeylike mozilla-chat or what ever05:48
intelikeyyep05:48
ubuntuthats built into05:48
ubuntukubuntu?05:48
intelikey!repos | ubuntu05:48
ubotuubuntu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:48
rayluintelikey, it looks nonstandard05:48
rayluubuntu, i think you want http://www.buzzen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1149105:48
rayluto wine that ^05:48
ubuntuaight thanks05:48
ubuntufor ur help05:48
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intelikeyraylu does it do something kopete can't ?05:49
intelikeyraylu does it do something konversation can't ?     maybe05:49
Level15anyone here with a dell xps m1210?05:49
ubuntunope own a dell tho05:50
ubuntulol05:50
Level15ubuntu:  does it have a webcam?05:50
ubuntuyes it do05:50
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ubuntumines ghetto05:51
ubuntustyle05:51
ubuntulol05:51
ubuntuback in the day05:51
ubuntubut it has xp05:51
ubuntui upgraded it05:51
rayluintelikey, i don't know; i dont use it05:51
Level15ubuntu: does it work on linux?05:51
ubuntuyup it does05:51
ubuntui have a05:51
ubuntudell gxa05:51
Level15hey youtube is down!05:52
ubuntu17 inch monitor05:52
ubuntuati05:52
ubuntuand creative sound blaster card05:52
ubuntulol05:52
Level15ubuntu: could you provide details on the webcam to see if it's the same i have?05:52
ubuntumyspace was down too05:52
ubuntui'm having troubles gettin it05:52
Level15really? weirdo05:52
ubuntunow utube wtf?05:52
intelikey!enter | ubuntu and you use enter a lot too05:52
ubotuubuntu and you use enter a lot too: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:52
whizadreeyup true Http/1.1 Service Unavailable05:52
ubuntumay bad05:53
ubuntumy05:53
ubuntulol05:53
rayluo.0!05:53
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intelikeyping 1.1.1.105:53
ubuntuso is utube up yet?05:54
intelikeyheh sudo ping 127.0.0.1      good response time there.05:54
ubuntui wonder y they took it down05:54
jhutchinsDestination net unreachable.05:54
ubuntumaybe cause all the illegal stuff05:54
ubuntulmfao05:54
intelikeyjhutchins slightly05:54
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kewlsolutionsj/ateneo05:58
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ubuntuk back i downloaded the tar file for wine and opened it with ark06:00
ubuntuwats next?06:00
rayluubuntu, what'd you download?06:00
Level15ubuntu: why did you do that? install packages from ubuntu06:00
ubuntui downloaded wine the tar file06:00
Level15use adept or whatever06:00
rayluo.006:00
ubuntui'm not using ubuntu06:00
rayluwhat are you using?06:00
ubuntukubuntu06:00
ubuntulol06:00
raylu...06:00
rayluadept is in kubuntu06:00
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ubuntuoh alright06:00
ubuntuso just go too adept installer?06:01
rayluand a package manager for ubuntu/gtk would work in kubuntu anyway06:01
rayluyes06:01
Level15ubuntu: 64 bits?06:01
ubuntuaight06:01
ubuntui c06:01
ubuntuill do that06:01
Level15!wine06:01
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:01
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raylu=\ they didn't even explain the acronym06:01
rayluwho's coolness is rivaled only by the app itself06:01
Level15lol06:01
ardchoillewine = Wine Is Not and Emulator06:01
whizadreehas anyone tried running aircrack06:02
ardchoilleraylu: How's that?06:02
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rayluhow's what?06:02
Maxdamantusardchoille, no, Wine = Win emu06:02
ardchoilleraylu: The acronym06:02
Level15i love this amarok thingy06:02
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rayluthe coolness of the acronym?06:02
ardchoilleMaxdamantus: lol06:02
ubuntume 206:02
MaxdamantusWhy not call it something like "Zine" if that was the case?06:02
MaxdamantusIt would still make sense.06:02
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adenicioi  dont know how but feity fix his self without telling me the prob06:03
MaxdamantusZine Is Not an Emulator06:03
Level15Maxdamantus: b/c it does not offer a compatibility layer for Zindows06:03
adeniciowa is it?06:03
rayluLOL06:03
whizadreeMine06:03
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bor_zsdakjfcsakfj06:03
rayluMaxdamantus, because the original name was what you said06:03
raylubut i suppose you knew that06:03
MaxdamantusYou can't use an Acronym inside it's self.06:03
adenicio!zindow06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zindow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
intelikeywine is wine is not an emulator06:03
Maxdamantusraylu, yes, I know.06:03
rayluhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/recursive_acronym06:03
ubuntuzindows lol nice06:03
jhutchinsMaxdamantus: That's the whole point.06:03
rayluMaxdamantus, click ^06:04
jhutchinsrecursive acronyms.06:04
jhutchinsMaxdamantus: What does GNU stand for?06:04
raylu!lindos06:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lindos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:04
raylu!lindows06:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:04
raylu:(06:04
MaxdamantusGNU  GNU's Not Unix06:04
adeniciointelikey: in a way u can say wine is an emulator06:04
rayluTINA Is Not an Acronym06:04
Maxdamantusjhutchins, That's incorrect.. I think.06:04
intelikeybut it isnt'06:04
jhutchinsMaxdamantus: Splat.06:04
ardchoilleraylu: lol06:04
intelikeyadenicio it's an aplication layer  not an emulator06:04
MaxdamantusWhy not make it ZNU?06:04
MaxdamantusZNU's Not Unix06:04
Level15hey, i have rice, pasta and bacon... what can i cook with that?06:05
raylurice pasta and bacon.06:05
Level15lol06:05
ardchoillehahaha06:05
Level15yeah... i was hoping i could cook some fish with that XD06:05
ardchoilleLevel15: You left yourself wide open with that one06:05
raylubut seriously, turn the bacon into crumbs06:05
adeniciointelikey: yea but it runs like n emulator for .exe06:05
jhutchinsLevel15: Yes, but you would need rice, pasta, bacon, and fish then.06:05
Level15HAHAH06:06
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jhutchinsadenicio: It's not an emulator, it's an API.06:06
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intelikeyadenicio no it runs an aplication layer in which .exe can run   if it were an emulator then it would be like vmware06:06
jhutchinsintelikey: No, vmware is a VM, not an emulator.06:06
Level15intelikey: sort of...06:06
Level15it would be  like dosbox06:06
Level15if it were an emulator06:07
adeniciojhutchins: intelikey ok06:07
jhutchinsWhich it isn't.06:07
hitmanWillyspeaking of dosbox, did anybody hear about the thing with valve/id06:07
intelikeyjhutchins you don't "emulate" hardware with vmware?06:07
Level15intelikey: in a way, i guess...06:07
MaxdamantusTop dictionary.com definition for 'GNU': large African antelope having a head with horns like an ox and a long tufted tail06:08
Level15it all comes down to defining concepts like "emulation", "virtual machine", "compatibility layer", etc06:08
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jhutchinsLevel15: Don't forget API.06:08
Level15yes, API06:08
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intelikeyand user space -vs- kernel06:09
MaxdamantusIt is emulation anyway.06:09
Level15!zimbra06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zimbra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
Level15hm06:09
intelikeyall that sort of raw,  ya know.06:09
jhutchinsThe game emulator thing that's an emulator.  wine is a very clever api, not an emulator.  VMware is a whole machine emulator.06:09
MaxdamantusIt interprets the bytecode of ntoskrnl.exe06:09
Level15!opengroupware06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengroupware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
MaxdamantusWhich is the kernel for running Windows XP programs.06:09
Level15!openexchange06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openexchange - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
jhutchinsGnu isn't unix, but unix could be gnu.06:09
Level15jeez...06:09
jhutchins<BANG>06:10
intelikeyjhutchins yes it could06:10
Level15speaking of which... leopard will be Unix'03...06:10
rayluhow so?06:10
Level15i feel kind  of embarrassed06:10
hitmanWillyso would that be GNU/Unix? lol06:10
intelikeyerr, umm, well, ahh,  hmmm06:10
Level15GNU/Mac :P06:11
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hitmanWillythere's a logic error for ya06:11
adenicioanyone know how to use the wiimote on feisty?my bluethoot is not detectin it06:11
intelikeyoximoron06:11
Level15!oximoron06:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oximoron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:11
Level15hahahah06:11
intelikeygnu if you do gnu if you don't06:11
rayluit's *oxymoron06:11
Level15we need a bot that checks wiktionary for us06:11
intelikeyraylu that's what i said06:11
rayluyou said oxImoron, and I was talking to Level1506:12
Level15and another one to tell us the next lotto numbers06:12
Level15raylu: no i didn't06:12
intelikeyyeah that's what i said06:12
adeniciolol06:12
raylu<raylu> it's *oxymoron06:13
adeniciou people are a****06:13
intelikeynow i'm finnally a star06:13
underdog5004adenicio, you're not very nice, polite, or patient06:13
adeniciounderdog5004: sorry06:13
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adeniciounderdog5004: can u tell me how to detect my wiimote on my pc?06:14
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intelikeyadenicio and i know we did burry your Q   sorry.   but no i don't know.06:14
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Maxdamantusadenicio, what sort of interface does it use?06:14
hitmanWillyi think its bluetooth iirc06:15
adenicioMaxdamantus: bluethoot06:15
hitmanWillyeither that or ir06:15
intelikeyyeah he said blueteeth06:15
Littlebootsthe Wiimote?06:15
MaxdamantusThought so.06:15
LittlebootsI thought it was IR06:15
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MaxdamantusLittleboots, hell no.06:15
MaxdamantusWith IR, it needs a direct line to the receptor.06:15
NutubuntuI have forgot the name of the little K applet that lets me change screen resolution on the fly - anyone remember?06:16
intelikey<adenicio> anyone know how to use the wiimote on feisty?my bluethoot is not detectin it   <<<< for the record.06:16
rayluadenicio, you remindd me of a bash.org quote when you moved that h over 4 spaces06:16
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Level15have you guys ever used gnumagic?06:16
adenicioraylu: hien?06:16
najibhey umm i am new to KDE can anybody show me how to get beryl becuase i already have beryl in my UBUNTU06:16
raylu<adenicio> Maxdamantus: bluethoot06:17
underdog5004adenicio, no, I can't. I'm sure there are many tutorials online. Google is your friend.06:17
raylunajib, adept, after putting the repository it06:17
Maxdamantusnajib, if it's on the same machine, run beryl and emerald06:17
flaccid!beryl06:17
MaxdamantusTry alt + f206:17
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects06:17
MaxdamantusThen type beryl | emerald06:17
MaxdamantusLol, STDOUT redirection should work like that right?06:18
intelikeynajid you mean it's installed  and you just need to activate it ?06:18
adeniciounderdog5004: it looks like feity does restric me from some pages06:18
intelikeyMaxdamantus that's not a redir that's a pipe06:18
Maxdamantusintelikey, it's redir.06:18
najibintelikey: yes06:18
MaxdamantusWhere does the pipe originally go to?06:18
Maxdamantus/dev/stdout06:19
MaxdamantusThat's all stdout is.06:19
rayluadenicio, huh?06:19
MaxdamantusA device in /dev06:19
MaxdamantusWhich can be read and written to.06:19
najibintelikey: u there?06:19
intelikeynajib no sorry.    i think you have to make a link in ~/.kde/Autostart/   but i don't use kde or beryl so better to ask someone that uses both06:20
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intelikey!beryl | najib also is supported in a channel of it's own if you want to ask there06:21
ubotunajib also is supported in a channel of it's own if you want to ask there: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects06:21
hitmanWillynajib, you may want to look into beryl-manager06:21
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intelikeyah yes beryl-manager   that too06:21
hitmanWilly!info beryl-manager06:21
ubotuberyl-manager: Tray application launcher tool - Beryl Project. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 62 kB, installed size 596 kB06:21
khaije1anyone know how to set the bluetooth password on a machine?06:21
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hitmanWillynajib, its a handy little applet i kept around even after I dumped beryl06:22
whizadreewell guys thanks for ya help06:22
whizadreeim gonna get some zzz's06:22
intelikeymount: you must specify the filesystem type       typos....06:23
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najibhitmanWilly: do i know you?06:24
najibhitmanWilly: do you reside in austin,texas?06:24
hitmanWillynajib, nah, tenn06:24
najibhitmanWilly: ok06:24
najibhitmanWilly: do you know alot about beryl?06:25
hitmanWillynajib, not really, used it for a little while06:25
underdog5004where is the absolute location of the trash in kubuntu? not the trash:/, but the path to it?06:26
intelikeyQ   isn't this a misnomer    umount - unmount file systems   <<<  you don't unmount it    you dismount it or detach it...   if it's not mounted it is unmounted even if it's never been mounted.     like "unleaded" gasoline    they didn't take lead out they just quit adding it....06:26
underdog5004never mind, found it06:26
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rayluintelikey, wouldn't umount fail then?06:27
hitmanWillyintelikey, the guys that came up with it were programmers, not english majors :P06:27
underdog5004~/.local/share/trash, in case anyone was wondering06:27
intelikeyhitmanWilly lol06:27
intelikeytrue dat06:27
intelikeyhitmanWilly probably not even "programmers" probably more like "code monkeys"   but at anyrate06:28
MaTiAzcodeslaves :)06:28
hitmanWillyintelikey, actually, im pretty sure that stems back from the original unix06:29
intelikeybut the man page probably doesnt06:29
hitmanWillyheh06:29
Maxdamantus <intelikey> Q   isn't this a misnomer    umount - unmount file systems   <<<  you don't unmount it    you dismount it or detach it...   if it's not mounted it is unmounted even if it's never been mounted.     like "unleaded" gasoline    they didn't take lead out they just quit adding it....06:29
MaxdamantusI don't agree with the "if it's not mounted it is unmounted"06:30
MaxdamantusI say that prefixing a word with "un" means it's been undone.06:30
intelikeydoesn't matter if you agree or not that's how   UN- is used in english06:30
MaxdamantusI wouldn't call shoe laces that have never been tied before "untied"06:30
intelikeyun =  not06:30
MaxdamantusNo, that should be im06:31
intelikeyun = not   look it up.06:31
MaxdamantusImpossible == Not possible06:31
MaxdamantusImpure == Not pure06:31
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intelikeyinactive06:31
Level15it's neither mounted nor umounted, but in a quantum overlapping of both states... that is, until yhou measure it XD06:31
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intelikeyunnamed06:31
MaxdamantusUndone != Not done06:32
intelikeyyes undone = not doen06:32
intelikeydone06:32
Level15unborn06:32
intelikeynot born06:32
Maxdamantusorly?06:32
intelikeylook it up.06:32
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MaxdamantusIt's just one of the few things about English that I don't like.06:33
Level15i think unborn settles it06:33
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ubuntuhi06:33
intelikeyunbuntu06:33
Level15lol06:33
MaxdamantusAlso that thing with plurals..06:33
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intelikeyyeah cheese  ?06:34
MaxdamantusNo, not cheese.06:34
intelikeyis both plural and singular06:34
Level15teeth06:34
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ubuntui installed windows after i installed kubuntu, and now my grub is messed up, i am currently talking to you via a live cd and whould greatly appreciate anyones assistance on the matter :) thanks in advance06:34
Maxdamantusintelikey, I always thought the plural of cheese was cheeses.06:35
ubuntuMaxdamantus: lol06:35
Level15ubuntu live cd has a recovery option to fix grubs, i think06:35
intelikeythat is also plural06:35
intelikey!grub | ubuntu06:35
ubotuubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:35
ubuntuLevel15: not my live cd :)06:35
MaxdamantusIf you're talking about ones, it's "cheeses"06:35
MaxdamantusOtherwise it's cheese.06:35
intelikeysee we are watching06:35
Level15ubuntu: i'm pretty sure it does... though it might be the alternate cd, not sure06:36
MaxdamantusLike if you're referring to it as an amount, not a quantity.06:36
MaxdamantusThere is alot of cheese.06:36
MaxdamantusThere are alot of cheeses.06:36
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MaxdamantusFirst one could mean there is one giant lump of cheese.06:36
MaxdamantusSecond means there are lots of pieces of cheese.06:36
intelikeyMaxdamantus yes but there can be a lot of cheese and only be one cheese06:36
Maxdamantus[16:36:31]   <Maxdamantus> First one could mean there is one giant lump of cheese.06:37
MaxdamantusThat's when you don't use a plural.06:37
MaxdamantusYou don't use plurals when measuring amounts.06:37
MaxdamantusLike waters.06:37
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intelikeydid you drink many waters today ?    :)06:38
Level15how do i get my window title bars when running beryl?06:38
MaxdamantusLevel15, run "emerald"06:38
MaxdamantusI think aptitude gets that when you install Beryl. :P06:38
Level15done, no window decorators... anything else?06:38
MaxdamantusLevel15, did you run it in a terminal, or just on alt + f206:39
Maxdamantus?06:39
Level15there's something to telll emerald to use kde decorations but can't recall the name06:39
Level15terminal06:39
Ahmuckkubuntu does not have a real time core?06:39
Ahmuck!rt-core06:39
Maxdamantus <Ahmuck> kubuntu does not have a real time core?06:39
Ahmuck!realtime06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rt-core - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about realtime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:39
MaxdamantusReal time core?06:39
Ahmuckreal time kernel06:39
Level15!rtlinux06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rtlinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:39
Level15hm06:39
Ahmucki am having problems with rosegarden06:40
Maxdamantus/proc/kcore?06:40
Ahmucklow latency06:40
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adenicioim boared anything to do06:40
Level15hey. i'd like my titlebars back...06:40
intelikeyyou know gasoline costed 2 cents a galon more when they started adding lead    leaded gas was 27 cent/gal   then it was 57 c/g and they started selling "unleaded" gas again, and it costed 4 cents more for the "unleaded"    and people were stupid enough to pay extra both times.06:40
intelikeyhow dumb can we be and still breath06:41
Level15one sucker every second...06:41
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intelikeygeee   he sure gets born a lot....06:42
intelikey:)06:42
Level15lol06:42
Level15hey fellows... i really want my window decorations back...06:42
Level15emerald is running06:42
Level15but is not drawing the decorations...06:42
el_ismaHello! I need help. I want to bridge my ethernet iface with my wifi one. I'm following the howtos but it doesn't work and I can't spot what I'm doing wrong... Anyone has experience with this?06:43
Level15!bridge06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bridge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
intelikeytotally out of my realm level15, sorry.06:43
Level15dude, ubotu seems rusty today ;)06:43
Level15intelikey: ok, thanks06:43
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intelikeyel_isma  ip forwarding ?06:43
hangthedj!effects06:43
ubotuFor help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects06:43
el_ismaintelikey: not sure of what you're asking. please explain06:44
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intelikeyel_isma what page you folling ?06:44
intelikeyfollowing  even06:44
el_ismahttp://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/TransparentBridge and http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge06:44
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AhmuckMaxdamantus: i guess not or something between the kubuntu and rosegarden is not working right, as a result, no sound06:48
intelikeyok that first one is criptic  if you are new to that,  and i am,  and the second is worse...  so i guess i better pass.06:49
bor_zserver irc.chatx.net.06:50
intelikeyall i have done is ip forwarding so i can use one box as the gateway and connect other boxes to the inet through it.06:50
Level15brb06:51
el_ismaintelikey: Yeah, I have that setup right now... But it never felt "right"... I couldn't get this box to act as a proper DHCP server even, so the wifi were setup by hand...06:51
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intelikeyel_isma well that first page you posted states plainly that it's not dhcp06:53
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el_ismaintelikey: I never could setup a bridge... :( I thought it maybe was the hardware, but I swapped machines recently and still it doesn't work06:53
el_ismaintelikey: It's not, it bridges with the wired network so your router/whatever assigns the IP to the client06:53
el_ismaintelikey: so it would be like if the wifi clients were connected by wired net06:54
intelikeyel_isma right.  but still more than i have done.06:54
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el_ismaintelikey: Thanks anyway :)06:55
intelikeyel_isma there are usualy some guys in ##linux that can help with networking.  but they aren't always nice.06:56
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el_ismaok, I'll try my luck06:56
intelikeyel_isma also that is not kde specific  so you can ask in #ubuntu   just don't mention kubuntu and you might actually get help...  :)06:57
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el_ismalol, already did :P06:57
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Tyrocan you get a kubuntu ISo to boot from a USB Drive Or IPod06:59
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intelikeytyro there is a windows installer,  not what you are asking tho.06:59
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intelikeyi never tried to boot an iso that wasn't on a cd    so idk.    in theory it should be possable.07:00
Tyroi'm asking, becasue i'm going to buy a laptop without a CD Drive07:00
intelikeydvd ?07:00
Tyroit doesn't have a drive07:00
intelikeyoh don't do that.07:01
Tyroit's a really tiny laptop07:01
intelikeyyou'll hate your self in the morning07:01
Tyroi wont07:01
Tyroi'm not using it as a mian PC07:01
Tyromain07:01
Tyroit's just a really compact solution07:02
intelikeywell you could install linux on the usb stick and boot then copy it to the hd     just one idea07:02
Tyroand it's only going to cost $200 USD07:02
Tyroi'll try to boot it straight from my IPOD later07:02
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Tyro200 usd is nothing for a brand new laptop07:04
intelikeya bargin isn't a bargin if you don't need it...07:04
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Tyrowell, i want it07:04
intelikey:)07:05
intelikeyfair enough07:05
Tyroi don't have my own computer07:05
Tyroi'm onry 15 :(07:05
intelikeyand this wont be your main boxen ?07:05
intelikey<Tyro> i'm not using it as a mian PC07:05
Tyrono chance07:05
intelikeyl07:05
MaTiAzTyro: You mean the Asus Eee?07:05
TyroYES!07:05
Tyrothe 70107:05
MaTiAzYeah, I'm getting one too :)07:06
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TyroHAHA!07:06
Tyrohow sweet is it07:06
MaTiAzReally sweet07:06
Tyroi'm gonna put kubuntu on it, if i can07:06
MaTiAzYeah me too07:06
intelikeyand do you know what hardware is in them.   can you get the network working on them.07:06
kewlsolutionsj/ateneo07:06
MaTiAzintelikey: IIRC it's some Intel chipset07:06
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Tyroyes, it's an AUS, full stop07:06
MaTiAzintelikey: 910 based if I'm correct07:06
TyroASUS*07:06
Level15brb07:07
Tyro910 based?07:07
MaTiAzIt comes with xandros though07:07
MaTiAzTyro: I mean the motherboard chipset is intel 910 based07:07
Tyroyeah, that's why i'm asking if you can boot from ipod07:07
TyroKaTiAz, i think so, i know that it's 900MHz 512MB RAM07:07
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MaTiAzTyro: yeah07:08
MaTiAzintelikey: What nvidia card do you have?07:08
Level15tada!! beryl up and running07:08
intelikeyriva128 agp07:08
MaTiAzhaha07:09
MaTiAzMy 8800GTS pwns yours >:D07:09
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Tyroi have a 7600GT07:09
intelikeymine is not supported07:09
MaTiAzI had a 6200 once, it sucks07:09
klobsterintelikey: you are running a gui?07:09
intelikeyklobster no  but i did start x yesterday07:09
intelikeyplayed a game...  for an hour or so07:10
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klobsterintelikey: babysteps, right? ^^07:10
intelikeylol07:10
intelikeyklobster i used to say "i have to have a gui"   granted it was years ago now  but proves dirrection of travel07:11
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intelikeyor at least can be considered as evidence.     doesn't really prove anything maybe...07:12
intelikeywell it proves i said that i guess....07:12
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klobsterheh heh07:13
klobsterwhat window manager did you run?07:14
intelikeyblackbox07:14
intelikeythat's all i have used this year07:14
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JmanfooI have a question about korganizer if someone has a moment07:15
intelikeyi have two moments   but probably can't answer07:15
seth:))07:15
Jmanfoowell, i tried to set it up to pul the webdav calendar from our exchange OWA server at work07:16
Jmanfooand now it just keeps crashing as soon as i open it07:16
Jmanfooi pulled a backtrace but its greek to me07:16
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intelikeyyeah *trace is writen in geek07:17
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intelikeyJmanfoo call it from konsole and see what it errors out with07:17
TyroMaTiAz, are you getting the Eee 701, or the 10" one07:19
Neil3never had any success with korganizer and exchange here :(07:19
hangthedjwhat file do i edit to keep the same ip on the computer when the machine reboots.07:20
MaTiAzTyro: 701 because I can't wait for the 10" one :D07:20
Tyrohah, so true07:21
Tyromight have to get both07:21
intelikeyhangthedj i'll go out on a limb and say  /etc/network/interfaces07:21
Tyrogive the 701 to your mum when you're done with it07:21
hangthedjhey thanks.07:21
intelikeya problem it is not07:22
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ZmanfooOk now that i've restabilized kde, has anyone else tried to integrate korganizer with exchange?07:25
Neil3Zmanfoo: yes but to no avail07:25
Neil3i gave up in the end07:25
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intelikeyi gave up in the other end07:27
intelikeyrepost    Jmanfoo call it from konsole and see what it errors out with07:29
Neil3ah Zmanfooi dont believe it07:29
Neil3i dont believe it even, i just got the calendar working07:29
intelikeyi think his kde died again...07:29
intelikeyhe should be working on the user interface not the apps07:30
intelikeyJosh Benson   wake up.07:30
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arunanyone here use kspread?07:32
NickPrestaarun, would that be KOffice spreadsheet?07:33
arunNickPresta: yes, precisely :)07:33
NickPrestaarun, I've used it a few times, for graphs and such07:33
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NickPrestaarun, is there anything you needed help with in regards to kspread?07:34
arunNickPresta: ah okay.. i have a peculiar problem. everytime i format a few columns/rows (fonts, bold, italics, etc) in a file and save it, the next time i open the document the formatting reverts back to the default. i don't know why that happens, it's quite irritating. i really like the program otherwise.07:35
arunany ideas?07:35
NickPrestaarun, would it be possible to send me the file - I can test it out a couple of times and see if the same thing happens to me07:35
arunum, i dont think so. it's a bit confidential, sorry07:36
NickPrestaarun, no problem. I'll create a few local files and play around.07:36
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arunif i change things like the font, or row height/indentation.. it works fine while i'm using it. if i save and close it, and open it later, some parts are formatted correctly, and some parts revert back to the default.07:37
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NickPrestaarun, I created three files (all different) which have various formatting (bold, italic, different font sizes, and column widths) and closed and reopened them. All formatting appeared in tact.07:38
arunhmm07:38
arunmust be some problem with my installation07:38
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arunwhat version are you using07:38
NickPrestaarun, aside from regular usage, I don't know how else to "test" this in a controlled sort of way. If this is happening randomly, I'm not sure how you would fix it or report the bug07:39
NickPrestaarun, KSpread 1.6.3 (Using KDE 3.5.7)07:39
aruni'm on 1.6.207:39
arunusing kde 3.5.607:39
NickPrestahmm. You could try upgrading (both KDE and KSpread) and see if it makes a difference07:39
NickPrestaarun, otherwise, you could try using OpenOffice.07:40
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intelikeydon't tell me, i just locked my self out of root...    crap.07:42
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intelikeyeasy there fod rod07:43
arunNickPresta: openoffice was all screwed up on my computer (at least the version that came pre-installed with kubuntu). the font rendering was all messed up. i'll try re-installing it and seeing if that helps. thanks!07:43
NickPrestaarun, no problem. I hope you find a solution.07:43
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arunany office suites for kde besides koffice?07:45
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alcetaarun: openoffice?07:46
arunyes, apart from openoffice and koffice..07:46
intelikeyah script attack.07:47
yossarian2012can anyone tell me how to give an application priority?  I am usuing kaffeine and want to give it enough priority that it won't skip when doing other things on an older machine07:47
intelikeyrenice07:47
intelikeynice07:47
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bob_sinclairyou can renice in ksysguard (ctrl+esc)07:50
bob_sinclairhttp://www.samspublishing.com/articles/article.asp?p=770644&rl=1 <-- interesting07:51
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intelikeyi just dumped about 28m of ram into a bottemless pipe       bug in mc07:53
ghery63hello07:54
intelikeyyeah07:55
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arunhey ghery6308:07
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intelikeycan you not have function names that begin with numbers ?08:10
intelikey2space() { blah }    is erroring out with   "Syntax error: Bad function name"   ???08:10
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wolferinefunction names, no08:17
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intelikeywolferine actually not if it's a posix compliant shell   but yes if it's  "bash"08:17
intelikeyand thanks.08:17
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runleveltenI'd never start the name of anything callable with a number anyway... looks wrong to me.08:18
runleveltenas you say though, 2space2() { echo blah;} does work in bash :)08:19
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intelikeyrm -rfv /08:30
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bob_sinclairintelikey: if someone just tried that command intelikey to see what it does, you will be hated badly08:34
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wolferineyeah, atleast take out the -v08:36
wolferineno one needs to see that08:36
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intelikeyflaccid   only if they had storage in their home    cause that's all it will affect08:36
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intelikeywolferine heh08:37
bob_sinclairyeah home isn't important at all..08:38
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bob_sinclairbut if they ran it under a root shell, its going to do a lot more08:38
ggarlic_does anyone know whether kde4 beta works well with kubuntu7.0408:38
bob_sinclairrecovering from particularly ext3 is nearly impossible for the average user so important personal docs gone - thats worse than just binaries08:39
wolferineits not as bad as recovering from reiser08:39
intelikeyxfs08:40
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runleveltenxfsftw08:40
intelikeynow how many of you just did that rm thing to see what it did ?08:40
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intelikeysee no harm done  :)08:41
wolferine;)08:41
intelikeylol08:41
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intelikeysay luke08:41
wolferineu son of a b...08:41
bob_sinclairnext time you won't be so lucky intelikey. newbies love to try commands...08:42
intelikey:() { : | : ; } ; :08:43
bob_sinclair:O08:43
wolferineoh goodness08:43
wolferinewhat is that08:43
intelikeyhow many tried that one ?08:43
wolferineshould I type it in a shell?08:43
wolferineas sudo ?08:43
intelikeyonly as root  yeah08:43
intelikey:)08:43
intelikeylooks harmless doesn't08:43
intelikeyit08:43
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intelikeyindeed  ping timeout08:44
intelikeyand with default kernels and default shell settings    your xorg will even crash before that is through08:44
=== wolferine never woulda thought
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intelikeyheh i can make it look even more benighn     echo "`:() { : | : ; } ; :`"   now if that doesn't look safe enough for a ubuntu user i don't know what would...08:47
intelikeybut leave it alone or set ulimit -n 256 first.08:47
intelikeyanybody taking notes ?08:48
runleveltenDon't post fork bombs ffs :\08:48
intelikeyi think they should be made known08:48
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intelikeyit an easy preventive measure that everyone should use   in fact it should be default08:49
intelikeyecho 'ulimit -n 256' >> /etc/profile   no danger here mate.08:50
intelikeyand 256 is plenty of user processes.08:50
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intelikeythink about this.  what is the safest proceedure for dealing with an exploit ?    never mention it   or mention it often ?     specally if there is a known fix ?08:53
intelikeylike duh    post it on every forum and wiki there is...08:54
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intelikeytype it in irc even...08:54
intelikeyok i'll quit.08:54
wolferinelol08:54
wolferineyou are kinda rambling...08:54
intelikeyi'm off in 35 minutes   so let me ramble   :)08:55
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wolferinei hope your on the other side of the world08:56
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intelikeyno i'm on this one08:56
wolferinethe one with winter right now08:56
intelikeyyou are on the other one08:56
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intelikeyi just want to know one thing ?   why do you people over there stand on your heads ?08:57
wolferinewhy, or how?08:57
intelikeywhy08:57
intelikeyyou know up is down on the other side .... :)08:58
intelikeysmall planet syndrome08:58
_d1wolferine and intelikey where are you ?from09:00
intelikeyhe's not from here,  i mean i'm not from there..09:00
intelikeysee now you confused me.09:00
_d1do you all have a country?09:01
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intelikeyi don't even own a state,  let alone a country09:01
wolferinerptflmao09:02
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intelikeyactually i'm not answering you,  it a "sorry, i just don't play the asl game"  thang09:02
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_d1what does asl mean?09:03
wolferineage/sec/live09:03
wolferinesex*09:03
intelikeyit's what teenagers say on aol and yahoo    asl  asl   asl   asl     means  what is your age sex and location09:04
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intelikeyi don't play that game,  never have.09:04
intelikeythis is irc where men are men,09:04
intelikeyand women are men,09:04
wolferineand men are women?09:04
intelikeyand children are FBI agents09:04
intelikeywolferine you messed that one up royally   now didn't you09:05
intelikey:)09:05
wolferine:P09:06
_d1i'm 60, a mean son of a bitch,from USA09:06
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intelikeydac heh09:06
kelnexI am an FBI agent *pew* *pew*09:06
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Agent_bobme too09:07
Agent_bobbut i still don't play the asl game09:08
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exceswaterhi all people09:09
Agent_bobok i better go make finnal rounds now.09:09
arunhey exceswater09:09
Agent_bobexceswater shalom09:09
exceswatercan i disturb you with a noob question ?09:09
exceswaterhi Agent_bob09:09
Agent_bobyou just did09:09
exceswatershalom09:09
exceswaterhi arun09:09
exceswater:D09:09
Agent_bob:)09:09
Agent_bob!ask09:09
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:09
exceswaterit seems that i have a problem with adept] 09:09
Littlebootsdoes it09:10
exceswaterfrom time to time... when it should need to update some aps09:10
exceswateri start it09:10
_d1:)09:10
exceswateractually it shows me that there are updates available09:10
exceswaterbut..09:10
exceswaterit cannot update all of them09:10
exceswatereverytime i get an error09:10
exceswaterand i am noob on kubuntu09:10
Agent_bob!repos | exceswater09:10
ubotuexceswater: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:10
exceswaterguys,..09:11
Agent_bobi really must make rounds     good luck with it exceswater09:11
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exceswaterimagine that i use win for more than 14 years09:11
exceswaterand linux for a year09:11
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exceswaterrepositories... i understand... but universe and multiverse... are kinda magic for me :D09:12
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exceswateri gtg now09:12
exceswateri will come back :D09:13
exceswateractually09:13
exceswateri'll be back09:13
exceswaterthis sound more impressive :D09:13
exceswaterterminator style :D09:13
_d1i'm going away also,k bye:-D09:14
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bob_sinclairim here, just finishing stupid work09:37
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bob_sinclairtime for home time09:38
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Tyrohey, can you make the text on the bottom toolbar not fade out?09:48
Tyrothe text fades out and looks kinda odd09:48
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Tyroanyone?09:49
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Tyroanyone know how to turn tooltip off09:53
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Tyrowhen you hover it makes a bit speech bubble09:53
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contrast83Tyro: Are you talking about the panel tooltips?09:56
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Tyroi think so09:57
Tyrothe tooltip when you hover over the bottom panel09:57
Tyrocontrast83, i think i mean that one09:58
contrast83Tyro - right-click the panel -> Configure panels -> Appearance -> uncheck "Enable icon mouseover effects" to just get regular tooltips for the panel, uncheck that and "show tooltips" to disable panel tooltips completely09:59
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hermann_348http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=348 klick plx10:00
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MaxdamantusUhh.. How do I turn a hard disk off? I think I can do it using hdparm, but I think I'm blind reading the --help.10:00
Tyroawesome thx10:01
Tyrocontrast83, is there a way to get rid of the faded text on the application tabs on the toolbar10:01
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Tyroi want it to be solid10:02
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contrast83i don't think so... it wouldn't really make sense to have it that way, because you're still gonna have windows with long titles that get cut off. :-\10:03
Tyroyeah, but i like the effect of the names being cut off, not faded10:04
contrast83you realize it only fades like, the last one or two visible characters, right?10:05
Tyroyes10:06
Tyrobut it looks stupid10:06
contrast83lol10:06
Tyrois there a way to only display the tasks on the virtual desktop in  use?10:06
contrast83you can't change it, to the best of my knowledge10:06
Tyrois there a way to only display the tasks on the virtual desktop in  use?10:06
contrast83ugh10:06
Tyrois there?10:07
contrast83!patience10:07
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:07
contrast83yep. it's in the taskbar section of the Configure panel dialog10:07
Tyrolol, i just found it as i aske10:07
Tyrod10:07
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Tyrosorry to flood you with questions, but can i make the scroll wheel do nothing when on taksbar10:08
Tyrobecause i can't find that option10:08
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contrast83hmm... not sure, but umm... why would you want to? :-)10:12
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contrast83Configure Panel -> Taskbar -> Actions10:12
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Tyrocontrast83, there isn't a nothing option10:18
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Tyrocontrast83, is there a way to stop animation of icons when you click10:23
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RobNyc!kioslave10:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kioslave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:39
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Damienwwhello, can someone help me?10:42
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pag!ask | Damienww10:43
ubotuDamienww: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:43
Damienww:)10:43
Damienwwok10:43
Damienwwi have the problem described here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/654610:43
Damienwwx server doesn't start coz of ati when i try to run the live cd10:44
Damienwwbut they solve the problem by actually typinf a command line and getting things from the internet...10:44
Damienwwand i dont see how to do that since x server doesn't start10:45
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pagDamienww, When X server doesn't start, press ctrl+alt+F1 and it'll get you to the command line10:47
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Tyrocan anyone tell me how to disble icon animation on click10:54
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pagTyro, you mean the one that "enlarges" the icon?10:56
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pagie. when you click the folder10:56
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Tyroyes11:00
Tyroand the flash around the toolbar icons11:00
Tyropag, sorry for taking a while to reply11:00
pagTyro, maybe kcontrol -> Appearance -> icons -> animate icons?11:01
pagin advanced tab that is11:01
Tyrowhat is kcontrol11:01
Assiderr.. how do i use the keyfile which putty uses to be usable by ssh /cli11:02
pagTyro, better version of System Settings  (probably the same can be done via sys.sets too)11:02
Tyroit's ok i put it in the run11:02
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TyroOMG, kubuntu is sooo cool11:04
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waltercoolin linux... using 2 users... how can i protect my data of the another user?11:07
pagremove read-right from all except yourself in your /home/$your-user11:08
waltercooloh... ic... with chown... right'11:09
waltercool?11:09
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pagwaltercool, chmod, and I think it's easier to do graphically11:09
DarkEDhey all, i need some help11:10
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waltercoolthanks pag :)11:10
DarkEDin desktop config > behavior, i've got it set to place application menus on the top (mac-style)11:10
DarkEDhowever, the panel that this creates has no config options, therefore i cannot make it transparent... and i need to11:11
DarkEDhow can i get into this panel's config? i'll do it with a text editor if need be11:11
pagwaltercool, probably it's also good to tick the "apply to all subfolders"11:11
waltercoolchmod 555 -R ?11:11
trekdannechmod o-x /home/username ??11:12
pagwaltercool, I'm not that familiar with chmod.. I'd guess 700, butI'm not sure11:12
waltercoolwell... right click so with konqueror :)11:13
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waltercoolanother question... is very... personal this question, i know... but i need know this: Why kde and not gnome?11:17
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pagwaltercool, no reason - Some prefer KDE some prefer Gnome, there's no "wrong" choise11:18
pagtry both and see which one you like more11:18
waltercoolis because i need change a friend of win$$ to some easy linux... and idk what show it11:19
Lynourewaltercool: or do you mean why individuals here chose it?11:19
waltercoolyeah11:19
Lynourewaltercool: I did not like having to poke at gconf if I wanted something configured to my taste.11:20
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waltercoolLynoure: I prefer kde because u can change a lot of things of look :)11:20
Lynourewaltercool: well, one can make gnome look very different, too.11:21
waltercoolLynoure: mmm... i try... but i only can add themes and use it11:22
waltercoolLynoure: in kde i can change colour of panels, buttons, bar, etc11:22
waltercoolwith a bit of clics11:23
waltercoolkubuntu dont have 3D look? (compiz) like ubuntu?11:23
Lynourewaltercool: see http://www.siltala.net/2006/12/01/topaz-now-or-the-topyli-non-interface/ as a gnome example11:24
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waltercoolLynoure: i have used gnome xDDD11:25
waltercoolLynoure: But is hard change, for example... top bar colour of windows11:25
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Lynourewaltercool: not really that hard, just takes a change of value in a text file11:27
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Lynourewaltercool: but I know that some people really like GUI for most things.11:27
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waltercoolLynoure: xDD, is because that i ask for a easy use method... for a friend who is win$$ user11:28
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waltercoolbut... in kubuntu have like ubuntu a thing for activate automatically restricted drivers?11:31
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DarkEDhey guys... check it out11:32
DarkEDhttp://darked.toddkleinert.com/mg/index.php?id=74011:32
DarkEDi got kde's kicker looking exactly like leopard's menubar :)11:32
waltercoolwhere u got styles like that??? :O11:33
waltercooli want...11:33
DarkEDi made it11:33
DarkEDused a custom bitmap for the background11:34
waltercoolOh... ic, seems... niiiiiice11:34
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DarkEDtransparency works better but it doesn't work correctly with the application menus for some reason11:34
DarkEDso... i made a bitmap that works right11:34
waltercoolu can upload it in kdelook :)11:35
DarkEDi might11:35
DarkEDbut it only works with this wallpaper11:35
waltercoolwhy?11:35
DarkEDum because i used this wallpaper as a base for the background image of the transparent white bar11:35
DarkEDin gimp11:35
DarkEDit's an image, not real transparency11:36
DarkEDit's fake11:36
waltercoolbut... u can use the kde transparency11:36
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DarkEDyes but it doesn't work right with the mac menubar11:37
waltercoolmake a transparent panel11:37
waltercoolmmm11:37
DarkEDit has a big seam in the middle, looks ugly11:37
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dice14uhelp, I cannot configure video card drivers in systemsettings even as root11:37
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waltercoolDarkED: is rarely... but must exist a solve11:37
dice14uwhen I try and change drivers in system settings apply never becomes available11:38
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waltercooldice14u: Where u can change the driver?11:39
waltercool:S11:39
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dice14usystemsettings11:39
dice14uwhen I click systemsettings then administrator button11:40
waltercoolim in system settings, but i dont see a administrator button :S11:40
waltercoolcomputer administration?11:41
dice14uno11:41
dice14ulol11:41
dice14uok in system settings11:41
dice14uthere is a desktop button11:41
dice14umonitors and display11:41
waltercoolyes11:42
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dice14uclick monitor and display11:42
waltercoolin hardware... right?11:42
dice14uyes hardware11:42
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waltercooladmin mode dont work for me too11:42
dice14uadministrator mode11:42
dice14uwhen you click it?11:43
dice14uit doesn't work?11:43
waltercoolexactly11:43
waltercoolis rarely11:43
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dice14uwell in anycase yeah it doesn't work for me11:43
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dice14uanyone able to help me :-p11:43
waltercoolmaybe restarting...11:43
dice14uno11:43
dice14udoesn't change anything11:44
dice14ueven restarting x-server11:44
dice14uor total power shutdown11:44
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waltercoolmmm11:44
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waltercoolok... now works for me11:45
waltercoolwhen u push in admin mode... make clic in gray window...11:45
waltercoolin the gray window11:45
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MaxdamantusHow can I fully shut down a hard disk? Somewhere in hdparm perhaps?11:46
contrast83dice14u: open ksysguard as root (Alt+F2 -> kdesu ksysguard), and look for anything containing kdesu.11:47
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Removing power cable?11:47
Maxdamantuswaltercool, I don't think my motherboard supports that.11:48
contrast83dice14u: let me know if you find it...11:48
MaxdamantusLast time I tried, the whole machine shut off.11:48
waltercoolMaxdamantus: mmm... have protection...11:48
MaxdamantusAlso, it gave me an electric shock too.11:48
waltercoolMaxdamantus: I can figurate only unmounting the device...11:48
MaxdamantusProtection?11:48
MaxdamantusI can put it into sleep mode, reset it, and stuff.11:49
MaxdamantusUsing hdparm.11:49
MaxdamantusBut can't see how to shut it down.11:49
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Yeah... think about the hard disk is burned... can make burn another devices..., so... it shutdown it automatically11:49
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waltercoolMaxdamantus: But... must work umounting and removing IDE/SATA cable and after power cable...11:50
waltercoolMaxdamantus: In my case... works... but i haven't a simmilar protection xD11:50
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dice14ucontrast83 i found a kdesud11:52
MaxdamantusOh, that's what you mean by protection.11:52
MaxdamantusThe system shutting it's self off.11:52
MaxdamantusThought you were suggesting an anti-static wrist band thing or something.11:52
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waltercoolMaxdamantus: Loool xDD... i dont think about u can shutdown a device... xD11:53
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Only powering on a PC, all devices are powered11:53
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contrast83dice14u: kill that11:53
dice14ucontrast83: when i make it admin mode it becomes kdesu11:53
waltercoolUSB included11:53
contrast83dice14u: so the Admin Mode button is working now?11:53
Maxdamantuswaltercool, I'm fairly sure you can.11:54
dice14uno its not the issue11:54
dice14uwhen i do anything11:54
contrast83dice14u: oh, sorry. i misunderstood your problem11:54
dice14uapply does not start11:54
contrast83???11:54
dice14uthe apply button never stops being grayed out11:54
contrast83ohh11:55
waltercoolMaxdamantus: PC is not controlling power supply...11:55
dice14ueven if changes are made11:55
Maxdamantuswaltercool, I'm aware of that.11:55
dice14uand so they cannot be applied11:55
contrast83dice14u: certain changes are made in real time11:55
MaxdamantusBut I'm fairly sure you can shut down a hard drive.11:55
contrast83dice14u: what are you trying to do, exactly?11:55
MaxdamantusI know how to shut it down, but the kernel will turn it on again when trying to read it.11:55
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Maybe with a special motherboard... for servers or something...11:55
waltercoolMaxdamantus: I know servers with this function... but idk if is for motherboard really...11:56
dice14uI am trying to change my video card ati with driver fglrx to video card: ati radeon driver:fglrx11:56
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dice14uchange fglrx to use ati radeon instead of just ati11:57
dice14uthat way eventually i will be able to use beryl11:57
dice14ulol11:57
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waltercooldice14u: U can use propietary drivers in kubuntu without use console? xD11:57
MaxdamantusHmm.. I wonder what I can do about this HD..11:57
dice14uwhat? waltercool?11:58
contrast83dice14u: so you're trying to use the open driver (ati) instead of the closed one (fglrx) so you don't have to use xgl to run beryl, correct?11:58
waltercooldice14u: If u can install propietary drivers of ati/nvidia without make commands in console...?11:58
dice14uyou know i really don't care11:58
dice14ui just wanted beryl to work11:58
MaxdamantusI'll probably brb if I DC, will be my computer shutting it's self off.11:58
dice14uati drivers allowed full resolution11:58
dice14ubut no 3d11:58
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dice14ufglrx when i installed went all 640x480 on me11:59
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Are u using a HD for move information? (like usb sticks)11:59
waltercool?11:59
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dice14ui am going to change xorg.conf to use ati drivers11:59
MaxdamantusNo.11:59
dice14usee how that works11:59
contrast83dice14u: Run command -> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> Ctrl+F -> Section "Device"11:59
keisangiis there's a way to setup time for minimizing a window ?11:59
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MaxdamantusAh, it didn't shut off.12:00
keisangii mean setup how long should it take to minimize a window12:00
contrast83dice14u: KDE's display config utility sucks. just edit xorg.conf by hand12:00
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contrast83dice14u: you can also run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from Konsole and that will walk you through all the steps12:01
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dice14uagh that sounds nicer12:01
MaxdamantusI have a feeling it will die when I unplug the IDE cable though.12:01
contrast83takes a bit longer though. ;-)12:01
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keisangi i was wondering if there's a way to setup the time it should take for a window to get minimized in kde ?12:02
keisangii've setup an animation for windows when they get minimized .. but they get minimized too fast my animation can't play entirely .. just half actialy .. i'd like to setup twice the time it's actualy setup ..12:02
waltercoolMaxdamantus: My best choice... buy a HD case and connect it usb method12:02
MaxdamantusI have one.12:02
contrast83keisangi: you mean how long the animation takes?12:02
flipstonehello everyone12:02
MaxdamantusThat's slower though.12:02
contrast83greets12:02
keisangi800ms i think .. it's a compiz animation12:02
flipstonei'm new in kubuntu, and allready having a problem :-)12:03
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Maxdamantuswaltercool, I have a feeling the whole HD is **cked though.12:03
contrast83keisangi: wait, so you're using compiz?12:03
keisangiyes i do12:03
contrast83compiz-fusion, or just plain old compiz?12:03
keisangibut couldn't find anything in compiz / emerald that wuould let me parameter that ?12:03
keisangicompiz fusion12:04
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Exist some things for fix HD... hiren tools, UBCD and others...12:04
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MaxdamantusSince trying it on my other machine, it kept giving a smart error at BIOS.12:04
contrast83keisangi: are you talking about how the window fades out before the animation completes?12:04
MaxdamantusAnd the other day, it started making funny noises.12:04
waltercoolMaxdamantus: ;O12:04
MaxdamantusSo I backed up the 9gb of data which was on there.12:04
flipstoneanyone had allready the problem that if you start the adept manager, it won't do it because another program is using the database and according to me no other program is running?12:04
MaxdamantusAnd went dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc12:05
Maxdamantus:P12:05
waltercoolMaxdamantus: A smart error can be normal or bad...12:05
MaxdamantusYea, it doesn't give it any more though.12:05
MaxdamantusBut it't still making the funny noises, and taking just as long.12:05
keisangicontrast83, yes : how long it take for the window to disappear in the taskbar ... my animation takes too long, the window disappeared in the taskbar before in could be displayed entirely12:05
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Must be uncalibrated... in hiren tools, u have a app called HDD regenerator... this app fix that12:06
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MaxdamantusI think I might try another overwrite, I think it only did 2.4gb last night.12:06
contrast83keisangi: open ccsm -> Effects -> Fading windows -> fade on minimize/open/close12:06
MaxdamantusWhich took 50k something seconds, resulting in a write error.12:06
contrast83uncheck that12:06
keisangicontrast83, i check12:06
donvinzkHi, I have a problem with kdm: I can not shutdown (blank screen) , I have to press the power button, any idea why ? Is there a specific issue with kdm ?12:07
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Or a bad magnetic calibration, or a physical damage...12:07
Maxdamantusdonvinzk, try shutting down from the command line.12:07
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Maxdamantuswaltercool, well, I dropped it on some concrete today, which didn't change anything.12:08
MaxdamantusAnd my other two HDs which were included are still fine.12:08
waltercool:O12:08
waltercoolHD killer!12:08
flipstoneHi, anyone had allready the problem that if you start the adept manager, it won't do it because another program is using the database and according to me no other program is running?12:08
keisangicontrast83, perfect :) thanks a lot :)12:08
contrast83keisangi: np12:08
pag!aptfix | flipstone12:08
ubotuflipstone: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:08
contrast83keisangi: are you using trevino's repo?12:08
MaxdamantusIt would've been my 40gb that took the most shock.12:08
keisangicontrast83, yes i do12:08
MaxdamantusAnyway, where can I get these hiren tools.12:08
MaxdamantusBrb if I DC.12:09
flipstonetnx :-)12:09
MaxdamantusNvm about the brb.12:09
server_hi can any one pm me and noes about postfix email server setup for kubuntu12:09
contrast83keisangi: <FusioBot> A guide to building Compiz and Compiz Fusion from GIT: http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=75812:09
keisangicontrast83, i have another wierd question maybe you could help ? i was searching a way to setup this in kde:  if i double click on desktop root window, it would trigger an action .. for exemple starting a new dolphin process .. do you think is feasible ?12:10
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contrast83keisangi: i'd recommend that over trev's repo. much less buggy, and it's always up to date12:10
waltercoolMaxdamantus: http://rapidshare.com/files/46783403/Hirens_BootCD_9.2.rar12:10
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keisangicontrast83, that for the info i will try GIt12:10
waltercoolMaxdamantus: But hiren tools can be a BIT of illegal... because have copyrighted apps...12:10
MaxdamantusAw, that means I'll have to have my computer off.12:10
server_hi can any one pm me and noes about postfix email server setup for kubuntu12:10
waltercoolexactly12:10
waltercooland boot it12:10
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contrast83keisangi: hmm... i'm sure it's possible, but not without a fair deal of hacking, i'd say... there might already be an app for something like that though12:11
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waltercoolMaxdamantus: Use DOS apps12:11
MaxdamantusI'll do it tomorrow, leave it going while I'm at school.12:11
MaxdamantusDOS apps?12:11
contrast83keisangi: now that i think about it, i think that might be possible with compiz. hang on...12:11
keisangicontrast83, couldn't find a way so far12:11
MaxdamantusI don't have a DOS based OS.12:11
keisangicontrast83, great tnx :)12:11
waltercoolMaxdamantus: U need boot the CD (the file have a ISO)... this have DOS12:12
MaxdamantusOh.12:12
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Have win98 lite edition xDDD12:12
MaxdamantusWhat would I want that for?12:12
waltercoolMaxdamantus: The apps in ISO here: http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd12:12
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waltercoolMaxdamantus: I use it for resize main ext3 of my kubuntu when i need it xD12:13
MaxdamantusWhy not use Linux?12:13
MaxdamantusParted can do that.12:13
MaxdamantusOr GParted, which is included on the LiveCD.12:14
waltercooland for / partition?12:14
MaxdamantusNo, parted and gparted are on the LiveCD.12:14
waltercooli take less time booting Hiren tools... xD12:14
waltercoolMaxdamantus: LiveCD takes it time...12:14
MaxdamantusI'd feel safer letting Linux handle my disks than DOS.12:14
MaxdamantusTakes it's time?12:14
waltercoolMaxdamantus: yeah... take 3 min in load the boot12:15
MaxdamantusUse a different CD then, which doesn't use a GUI.12:15
flipstonefixed it, but what is the best way anyway to add/remove programs?12:15
waltercoolMaxdamantus: In hiren tools this load in 10 secs?12:15
MaxdamantusGentoo minimal CD ftw12:15
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Haha... i never can make work gentoo... installer drop me a error xD12:15
MaxdamantusThe automatic one?12:16
MaxdamantusDon't use that.12:16
MaxdamantusIt's really easy to install it manually.12:16
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Console installer and GUI installer...12:16
MaxdamantusJust DL the stage3 and portage archives.12:16
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MaxdamantusExtract the stage3 to the partition you want to put Gentoo on.12:16
waltercooland where i can found stage3?12:17
contrast83keisangi: well, you can make it so pushing a button at a screen *edge/corner* would execute a command. looks like that's the closest thing to that that compiz has though. (optionally with a modifier key also, so something like Alt+left-click at the top-right corner for example)12:17
MaxdamantusThen extract portage on there into the usr dir.12:17
Maxdamantushttp://gentoo.org/12:17
MaxdamantusCheck the mirrors list.12:17
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MaxdamantusThen browse a mirror.12:17
waltercooli have extracted portage file... but stage3...12:17
MaxdamantusI have no idea how they compressed it so much.12:17
MaxdamantusStage3 archive is a 104mb tar.bz312:17
Maxdamantusbz2*12:17
waltercool:O12:18
MaxdamantusWhich extracts to 650mb12:18
MaxdamantusWhich is the Gentoo base operating system.12:18
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Gentoo is for me... the best dist... but takes toooooooooooooooooooooo time in compile things...12:18
keisangicontrast83, yes, that would be nice already i'll investgate for that too.. but i really wanted this feature .. doublle click on the desktop  trigger a new dolphin process12:18
Maxdamantuswaltercool, emerge -av dpkg12:18
keisangicontrast83, but thanks for the help anyway :)12:18
contrast83np :-)12:18
MaxdamantusThen you can dpkg Debian packages.12:18
contrast83no icons on the desktop, i assume?12:19
MaxdamantusI'm gonna use that when I switch my main computer back to Gentoo.12:19
waltercoolMaxdamantus: xDDD i know... but isnt the same of do a emerge xD12:19
MaxdamantusEmerge is elite anyway.12:19
waltercoolMaxdamantus: u can update apps with emerge...12:19
MaxdamantusI think dpkg updates too.12:20
waltercoolMaxdamantus: But... make a emerge openoffice xDD12:20
waltercoolMaxdamantus: a day... 2 days compilating...?12:20
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MaxdamantusHell no.12:21
MaxdamantusShouldn't take that long.12:21
MaxdamantusJust get the debian package anyway.12:21
waltercooli had do it xD12:21
MaxdamantusWhich is why you use dpkg12:21
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waltercoolMaxdamantus: but use dpkg in gentoo... is like... do alien to rpm files xD12:22
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Maxdamantushttp://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/2007.0/stages/12:22
MaxdamantusThose are stages for x8612:22
hamadoooguys i want to know what is the different between kbuntu  and ubuntu12:22
Maxdamantusstage3-x86-2007.0.tar.bz2 is the latest.12:22
waltercool103M12:22
MaxdamantusGtg to bed anyway.12:22
keisangicontrast83, indeed .. no icons;)12:22
waltercoolMaxdamantus: :O12:23
waltercoolMaxdamantus: Good night?12:23
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server_so does any one here noes about postfix12:23
waltercoolhamadooo: Kubuntu use kde like enviroment... Ubuntu use Gnome like enviroment12:23
kalorinserver_:  i do12:24
bentob0xhamadooo: Kubuntu = Ubuntu + KDE and Ubuntu = Ubuntu + Gnome12:24
hamadooois that the only different12:24
server_can you help me how to do this it getting me on my nerves lol12:24
bentob0xXubuntu = Ubuntu + X12:24
kalorinand xbuntu = ubuntu + ?12:24
keisangixfce12:24
waltercoolX = XFCE12:24
hamadooowhat is that12:24
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kalorinserver_: um... can you be more specific, ask the question, don't ask if you can ask the question12:24
hamadooomath12:24
bentob0xthe only thing that is different across the versions is the windows manager12:24
waltercoolgoogle it xD12:25
keisangianother desktop environment12:25
keisangia lighter one12:25
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contrast83keisangi: that's how i was for a long time. i eventually got tired of docks though, and found a nice wallpaper that icons actually look *good* on - http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Lines?content=5316712:25
hamadoooso no one better than other .... only the desktop is different12:25
bentob0xsorry, desktop environment it is12:25
server_i need to no how to properly set the postfix on my ubuntu server and run it and creat a email and domain for it12:25
kalorinhamadooo: everyone is going to have a preference, I like KDE myself12:25
hamadoooi like gnome12:26
kalorinserver: postfix.org12:26
kalorinread12:26
contrast83i replaced the icons in that splash screen with the ones i have on my desktop, so ksplash -> kdesktop is seamless :-D12:26
server_i did12:26
server_still doent tell me hwo to create email acconte for user's12:26
kalorinwell I don't have all day to sit and try to walk you though every little nuance of your setup to get it doing all that12:26
kalorinfor postfix?12:27
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kalorinlocal delivery will require you to have a real local user12:27
kalorinalternatively, you can forward the email that would go to local users off site to another mail service/adderss12:27
kalorinthe /etc/aliases file will allow that12:28
kalorinor you can use a virtual user table12:28
kalorinthere's tons of ways to do the same thing12:28
kalorinthe correct answer is your preference and what you want to do with it12:28
kalorinI run virtual user tables12:28
kalorinand a few local accounts12:28
server_ok12:29
kalorinit's likely easier to use the /etc/aliases file for forwarding email and just have postfix deliver it locally12:29
keisangicontrast83, here's mine12:29
keisangihttp://keisangi.free.fr/nekosan.jpg12:29
kalorinbut it means that postfix will have to touch the message 2x once to deliver locally and then again to forward it out12:29
server_ok i got the aliases whit my email in it12:30
kalorindo you have an MX record set up that points to your mail server for a domain?12:30
server_suposably i do have it12:30
kalorinso when I email server@<whateverdomain.com> does the internet know that your server is actually the mail handler for that domain?12:30
kalorinwhat's the domain name?12:31
contrast83keisangi: yeah, i see why you wouldn't want to clutter that with icons12:31
keisangihehe12:31
server_my domain or the orther server12:31
contrast83keisangi: you *could* always make an invisible icon and put it in an easy-to-remember place. :-\12:31
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kalorinthe domain of the emails that you want to receive12:31
keisangithat's an idea ;)12:31
contrast83i mean, if you're only wanting one shortcut on the desktop12:31
server_gmail.com12:31
server_but i want to creat my own email and server domain12:32
contrast83but the text would still be an issue12:32
keisangii have to go back home now, day off12:32
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keisangiiu mean i've finishged my working day12:32
kalorini should post my wallpaper12:32
kalorinperhaps at some point12:32
keisangibbl12:32
contrast83peace12:32
kalorinreally kick butt picture of rogue from the xmen off the islands of adventure park in florida12:32
keisangiand tnx a gain for the help contrast8312:32
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contrast83np12:32
kalorinserver then you need to register a domain name12:33
kalorinand set an MX record on it12:33
server_i got a domain name12:33
kalorinand get a static address12:33
server_that done also12:33
kalorinand put your postfix server on that address12:33
server_yeah and i did that but no respond from postfix12:33
kalorinand then configure it to know what do when it receives email for that domain12:33
kalorinwhat's the domain name that you registered?12:34
kalorinand what's the ip address of your postfix server12:34
server_platinumforums.sytes.net12:34
server_it run my ftp and web site now just need it for email server12:35
kalorinwell it's not set up right12:35
kalorinjhoffman@hawk:~/Desktop$ dig -t MX sytes.net12:35
kalorin;; ANSWER SECTION:12:35
kalorinsytes.net.              60      IN      MX      10 mail2.no-ip.com.12:35
kalorinsytes.net.              60      IN      MX      5 mail1.no-ip.com.12:35
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kalorinso as far as the interwebthingy is concerned, any mail going to *@sytes.net shoudl be delivered to the server amil2.no-ip.com12:36
kalorinno ip.com as you would imagine is a fake name12:36
kalorinergo, your mail ain't going where you want it to go12:36
kalorinnow go google for MX records and DNS12:36
kalorinand read up on that12:36
server_ok12:37
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chaKKo_1521http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=152101:11
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phimici use kubuntu 7.04 x8601:12
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waltercoolhi there... i have a biiig problem :S someone can help me?01:16
tobias_depends on the problem I'd say01:16
waltercoolim stucked in 800x600... i can choose 1280x1024, but when i restart X, resolution is 800x600 again :S01:16
waltercooli hate this $%"$ res01:17
waltercoolu know how solve that?01:18
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tobias_give me a sec01:18
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tobias_you know how to edit your xorg.conf ?01:18
tobias_well anyway I am kinda new to kubuntu as well, but it might be there01:19
tobias_konsole: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:19
waltercooli have 1280x1024 only...01:19
tobias_then look for the section "generic monitor"01:19
waltercooli have removed all another resolutions01:20
tobias_mhhhhhhm01:20
tobias_thats weird01:20
tobias_sorry, cant help you with that then01:20
waltercoolxDD01:20
waltercoolthanks so xD01:20
tobias_no problem for nothing =)01:20
tobias_good luck with it01:20
tobias_and feel free to query me if you got the answer ;D01:20
dice14uwaltercool whats your vid card01:20
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waltercooldice14u: nvidia01:22
waltercooldice14u: i have installed nvidia-glx01:22
waltercoolwait...01:22
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waltercool:(01:26
dice14u:-(01:26
dice14u:-p01:26
waltercoolu know how fix this? :)01:27
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waltercoolok... using nvidia like device... i have 800x600... using nv like device... i have any resolution01:32
waltercoolwhy that?01:33
DarkEDhttp://darked.toddkleinert.com/mg/pictures/leopardtaskbarkde2.jpg <-- leopard dock FTW01:35
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gurriohi, i'm runing feisty and i want to try kde4, but it seems that there are some dependencies problems with kdepimlibs4 and kdepimlibs5, what can i do?01:37
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nosrednaekimDarkED: thats Mac OS though!01:43
nosrednaekimI think....01:43
DarkEDnosrednaekim: nope01:43
DarkEDKDE 3.5.7 kubuntu dude01:43
DarkED:)01:44
nosrednaekimwow.... what theme?01:44
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DarkEDwell... i made the menubar01:44
DarkEDit's a bitmap imagine01:44
DarkEDer... image* sorry01:44
DarkEDbeen a long night01:44
nosrednaekimlol.. but how about the rest?01:45
nosrednaekimI don't use menubars.01:45
DarkEDreal transparency doesn't look 'correct' so i made a background image for fake transparency01:45
boris_how do i install kde codecs for amarok im using gnome currently01:45
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DarkEDum the dock is avant window navigator... i've changed some settings to make it look like the leopard dock01:45
DarkEDyou use gconf-editor to change the angle and icon settings01:45
DarkEDthe iconset is OS-L01:46
DarkEDand then kwin-baghira01:46
DarkEDer, for the windows01:46
nosrednaekimimpressive!01:47
DarkEDthanks01:47
DarkEDthe windows look like crap, but meh01:47
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nosrednaekimreally?I thought they looked nice01:50
server_does any one noes what exchange server is01:50
nosrednaekimwhat are desktop applets running in? super karamba?01:50
nosrednaekimserver_: its for exchanging emails and scheduling stuff.01:51
nosrednaekimgroupware01:51
hsn_how can i read .chm in kde?01:52
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trekdannehsn_: kchmviewer01:53
server_can you make a email server whit it01:53
nosrednaekimserver_: I'm not sure..... but its microsoft stuff01:55
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trekdanneboris: amarok uses xine. so you need to install xine-codec packages01:55
server_no any thing for ubuntu i can make my own email server not from other server01:55
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nosrednaekimDarkED: I see you are the typical high-school student :)01:56
DarkEDnosrednaekim: ?01:57
DarkEDdude i'm 2201:57
server_lol01:57
DarkEDi've been out of high school since 03 :)01:57
nosrednaekimDarkED: whats with the task list then?01:58
nosrednaekimalgebra exam..... apply for FAFSA01:58
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DarkEDnosrednaekim: because i'm trying to go to college01:58
DarkEDi couldnt go after high school because i couldnt afford it01:58
DarkEDnow i'm in a position where i might actually be able to... but still, i missed fall semester anyways... gotta wait till spring01:59
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DenmaruGreetings - is there a tutorial to change the NV-Driver to the ones made by Nvidia?01:59
nosrednaekimah, ok. then I reall wasn;t that far off ;)01:59
DarkED:)01:59
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server_hey what good to add to ubuntu server02:00
nosrednaekim!nvidia02:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:01
nosrednaekimDenmaru: those instructions use the restricted-manager, you will have to install it in Kubuntu02:01
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praecoxhello guys02:02
trekdannehi praecox02:02
praecoxcan anyone help me out and tell what's the name of package which is responsible for Keyboard Layout entries in KDE -> System Settings -> Regional & Language?02:03
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Denmaruaha? Well, I'm using kubuntu right now :302:05
server_kubuntu rules02:05
nosrednaekimDenmaru: just warning you..02:06
praecoxcause I now see empty list, not like here: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/images/C/kubuntu-regional-keyboardlayouts.png02:06
DenmaruThat's fine :302:06
praecoxI believe there's something missing.02:06
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server_what the command for kubuntu for installing vcl player02:08
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Denmaruhhm.. it tells me to use the "Restricted Dvices Manager"  -  but I can't find it on my kubuntu installation. Any ideas?02:12
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nosrednaekimDenmaru: exactly what I was saying02:13
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nosrednaekim"sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"02:14
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praecoxanyone got a clue regarding Keyboard Layout?02:14
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DenmaruAh, I'm sorry, I must have overread that one02:15
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tOWLiehow can i change my desktop resolution in kubuntu ?02:15
server_go to system setting02:16
trekdannepraecox: hmm strange02:16
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trekdannepraecox: do you have xkb files under /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols02:16
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praecoxtrekdanne, I know it is. I believe it has been deleted by accident.02:17
tOWLiehow can i change my desktop resolution in kubuntu ?02:17
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praecoxtrekdanne, yes, I do.02:17
praecox# ls -1 /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols |wc -l02:17
praecox9902:17
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tOWLieis it possible to set my resolution to 1280x1024@7002:18
nosrednaekimtOWLie: its in system-settings->monitor02:18
W1ZrDcan I upload whole folders (and subfolders) from workstation to server via command line ssh?02:18
nosrednaekimDenmaru: no problem02:18
praecoxtOWLie, KDE -> System Settings -> Monitor & Display02:18
tOWLieyes i fund that but the highest resolution i can change to is 1024x768@7502:18
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tOWLiebut i need 1280x10247002:19
nosrednaekimW1ZrD: yeah, use either fish from within konqueror, or scp from the command line02:19
praecoxW1ZrD, scp -r02:19
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tOWLiebut i need 1280x1024@002:19
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nosrednaekimtOWLie: what type of video card do you have?02:19
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tOWLieati02:19
tOWLiex30002:19
tOWLiein windows this resolution works great02:19
W1ZrDHow would the line look like from ip 1.2.3 to ip 5.5.5 if I want the folder (and subfolders) "directory"?02:20
nosrednaekimtOWLie: get the "restricted-manager" and get the ati drivers using that.02:21
tOWLiethe restricted-manager is already installed ?02:22
tOWLiehow i can i start it ?02:22
trekdannepraecox: maybe something wrong with your Xorg.conf ?02:23
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nosrednaekim"kdesu restricted-manager"02:23
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tOWLieok i have to restar02:25
tOWLiesee u soon i hope so.. :)02:25
nosrednaekimok02:25
praecoxtrekdanne, I don't think so, I reconfigured entire xserver-xorg (using dpkg-reconfigure) and set it up again.02:25
W1ZrDscp /my/workstation/my-files host@server: /my/server/my-files <-- would that be correct?02:25
praecoxW1ZrD, 141849 < praecox> W1ZrD, scp -r02:26
praecoxW1ZrD, use -r and without space after :02:26
praecoxW1ZrD, scp -r /my/workstation/my-files host@server:/my/server/my-files02:26
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praecoxW1ZrD, this is correct.02:26
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W1ZrDbrilliant, I'll give that a try then, it should copy the entire dir (including .hidden)?02:27
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tOWLieback again :)02:28
tOWLieyes now it works :)02:28
praecoxso, noone can help me with Keyboard Layout?02:28
tOWLiethx nosrednaekim02:29
trekdannepraecox: maybe you know about this, but anyway: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kxkb/kxkb.pdf02:29
nosrednaekimtOWLie: ok, great, and now you have decent 3d acceleration too02:29
tOWLieperfect02:29
tOWLiedo i need something like a firewall or virusscanner ?02:29
nosrednaekimtOWLie: No problem, just doing my part :)02:29
tOWLieand sorry for all this nooby questions :)02:29
nosrednaekimtOWLie: firewall wouldn't be a bad idea.02:29
nosrednaekimvirus scanner isn't neccesary02:29
nosrednaekimtOWLie: they are easier than the non-nooby questions ;)02:30
tOWLieand firewall ?02:30
server_what the command for a good virus scanner for kubuntu02:30
nosrednaekim!firewall02:30
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).02:30
nosrednaekimthere you go, Gaurddog02:30
tOWLiethx02:31
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server_what the command for a good virus scanner for kubuntu02:31
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stdinserver_: why would you need one?02:32
server_hum to keep server good shape i guess02:32
stdinserver_: so you serve windows clients?02:33
server_hell no02:33
anticitizen1Hi, i have 2 questions about Kubuntu. 1. Is it safe to run it without a antivurs program?  2. Can I install and run  BERYL with Kubuntu?02:33
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stdinserver_: then you don't need one02:33
server_ok02:34
stdinanticitizen1: 1) yes, 2) yes :)02:34
server_what good to put on kubuntu server02:34
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stdinserver_: anything you want02:34
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anticitizen1Thank You!02:34
nosrednaekimyes to both02:34
nosrednaekimserver_: then its uneccesary02:34
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server_hum im trying to get vlc player dont no the apt-get command for it02:35
nosrednaekim"apt-get install vlc"02:35
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server_it says cant find package everytime i try02:35
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nosrednaekimyou need to enable all the repositories02:36
nosrednaekim!info vlc02:36
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB02:36
server_event not found02:36
stdin!repos02:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:36
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praecoxtrekdanne, well, I found symbols.dir.dpkg-old in /etc/X11/xkb/02:36
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praecoxtrekdanne, and it's files. maybe that's from missing packages?02:36
ubuntuHI02:36
nosrednaekimhello02:37
stdinserver_: you don't put the command, you read what ubotu says. any message starting with a '!' is a message to ubotu to print a message02:37
praecoxtrekdanne, what was the command to check what package's files come from?02:37
stdinpraecox: dpkg -S filename ?02:37
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phikhi there ;)02:38
phikanyone knows how to use splashy?02:38
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praecoxstdin, oh, right. thx.02:39
praecoxsilly me.02:39
server_lol02:39
animimotushi02:39
animimotuswhat do U use to exact flac files with the initial cue?02:39
tOWLiecan i hide a partition like sda1 ?02:39
tOWLiecuz this is my windows partition02:39
tOWLiei dont wanna see this in mein kubuntu :)02:39
tOWLie?02:40
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mickey_sorry hello i ave question02:40
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animimotustOWLie: don't mount it02:40
nosrednaekimask away02:40
mickey_for the noob linux i must begin bye kubuntu or mandiva 200702:41
mickey_?02:41
tOWLiehow can i dismount it ?02:41
mickey_sorry for my english hihi02:41
mickey_?02:42
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animimotustOWLie: for instance sudo umount /media/xp/02:42
dice14uhelp someone my beryl white screens02:42
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dice14uwhen I turn on beryl all i get is a white screen and the ability to move around my mouse02:42
animimotustOWLie: then edit your fstab to disallow the line right line02:42
mickey_FOR BEGINNER MANDRIVA OR KUBUNTU?02:43
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animimotusmickey_: oO02:43
animimotusKubuntu02:43
mickey_can i ave an answer?02:44
tackatmickey_: mandriva! /me runs02:44
server_kubuntu02:44
mickey_ok mandriva is to hard to kubuntu?02:44
stdinmickey_: kubuntu is better for beginners02:44
mickey_ok thanks all people02:45
mickey_ave a nice day bye02:45
server_bb02:45
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tOWLieare the some better instant messenger for icq protocal than kopete and gaim ?02:51
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stdin!im02:52
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.02:52
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stdintOWLie: hmm, search adept for instant message02:52
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tOWLiek02:52
tOWLiegreat guys around here02:52
tOWLiefast help02:52
tOWLieincredible :)02:52
stdinwe try :)02:53
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praecoxok, I figured it out.02:53
praecoxI've got Keyboard Layout working, thanks.02:53
gherringto everyone involved in the KDE project : Thank You  :)02:54
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W1ZrDpraecox: the scp -r did the trick, wonderful, thnx for the help02:56
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gherringI'm having a problem with Konqueror displaying Gmail...it looks really garbled  :(02:57
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flipstoneanyone ever tried to install a brother dcp 110 printer on kubuntu amd64?02:57
flipstone:-)02:57
gherringI've tried spoofing other clients, but then I'm missing features in gmail that I want02:57
stding02:58
stdingherring: have you enabled javascript in konq?02:58
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gherringunder tools I have java script enabled, not java02:59
dice14uanyone know why beryl will white screen xgl + ati radeon xpress 1100?02:59
gherringtrying that....02:59
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gherringok..still 'garbled'...I don't know if I have proper java....should I use Blackdown or sun?03:00
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stdingherring: maybe try with http://mail.google.com/mail/?nocheckbrowser03:02
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gherringis there any documentation on proper install and version of java I should use?  trying nocheck browser....brb03:02
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tOWLiehow can i install this kde style ?? ---> http://www.speleoalex.altervista.org/home/index.php?mod=download03:03
gherringwhen I clicked that link...i have a rapidly bouncing konqueror icon and it want stop  :(03:04
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[GuS] lol... xp style? :Pp03:06
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tOWLie:)03:06
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[GuS] then KDE will look uggly :P03:06
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gherringok...the no check brower link with default identification looks good in KDE - better than the garbled  version  :)03:08
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gherringbut then I'm missing gchat on the side.  I know I can use kopete, but I kind of wanted konqeror to 'konquer' the problem03:09
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gherringp.s. - still have rapid bouncing cursor next to mouse point after clicking that link....want go away03:10
BluesKajgherring: looking for an irc chat client ?03:10
iM`i got this .iso kubuntu from a friend03:11
iM`how to install it ?03:11
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gherringi like konversation, want the gchat for selected friends03:11
BluesKajok03:11
trekdanneIM`, burn it to a CD03:11
trekdanne!install03:11
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate03:11
iM`its already in the cd03:11
gherringthank you BluesKaj03:12
iM`!auatomate03:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about auatomate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:12
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iM`!automate03:12
ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning03:12
trekdanneah you need to boot your computer from the CD03:12
iM`so that .iso file alone is bootable?03:12
gherringbrb....need to get rid of this bouncing cursor...03:12
trekdannetry to press delete or Escape during boot up03:12
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iM`y/n?03:13
BluesKajyes iM`...it's prolly a live cd with install options03:13
trekdanneiM`, actually no. the .iso file describes the content of the CD. if you have a CD with a iso-file on it you will need to burn it to another CD...03:13
iM`its not a live cd03:14
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iM`i guess i have to burn it to another cd.03:14
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iM`trekdanne wat distro are u using03:15
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BluesKajiM`: do you have your BIOS boot sequence setup to boot from the cdrom first?03:15
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iM`unfortunately i forgot my bios pass03:16
BluesKajotherwise burning to another cd won't make any difference03:16
trekdanneim`: kubuntu :)03:16
iM`yes the 1st boot is cd03:16
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r3hello .. me got this tricku quiestion03:16
r3tricky03:16
trekdanneiM`: then it will probably work fine03:16
r3xgl - video on displany and tv  ..... kde - video on display but blank screen on tv .... any ideas ?03:17
r3what i mean is03:17
r3both displays (lcd and tv ) work in both03:18
BluesKajkubuntu iso files are supposed to be bootable live cds03:18
r3the difference is when i play video files03:18
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trekdanner3: what gfx-card are you using?03:19
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r3trekdanne = ati mobility x20003:19
r3its just weird it runs under xgl fine03:20
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iM`BluesKaj it doesnt boot03:22
trekdanner3: not that familiar with ati's card though, I assume you have the latest ati binary drivers installed03:22
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trekdanneiM`, do you have a CD with a iso-file on it, or did you burn the iso-file to a CD?03:23
r3id rather not .. im happy with those that ubuntu downloads and installs as proprietary03:23
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r3i tried ati.com few time.. but its just a way too bad support03:23
BluesKajiM`: then do what trekdanne suggested , copy it to another cd03:23
r3whats da problem ?03:24
r3i mean with iM03:24
BluesKajbut i think you have to make it bootable, iM`03:24
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iM`thats what im doing ryt now03:25
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trekdanne!ati03:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:26
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canihojrwenas03:26
r3trekdanne - the ati is doing its job very poorly ... its not an issue that i would not be capable of installing it03:26
BluesKajr3: what tv app are you using ?03:26
r3no tv app03:26
canihojralgun spaol? necesito ayuda con sources.list.....03:27
r3its laptop connected to tv03:27
BluesKaj!es | canihojr03:27
ubotucanihojr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:27
canihojrgracias :)03:27
trekdanner3: "The TV-Out functionality may not work with the open source drivers; if you don't have TV-Out or don't want to use it, however, then you probably don't need to use fglrx. ". I suggest installing the ati binary drivers03:27
trekdanner3: the ubuntu guide is pretty straight-forward03:28
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r3heloooooooooooooooo .. its working in xgl .. and its not working under kde ( the point is that it is working )03:28
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r3just wanna know why kde f&ck3$ up03:28
BluesKajfglrx driver?03:29
trekdanner3: hmm probably not kde's fault03:29
r3bluesKaj - good point :D03:29
r3but -- both XGL and KDE works with tv03:29
trekdannei think xgl uses some different drivers03:29
BluesKajno r3 , i'm asking ?03:29
r3the only difference is that VIDEO *.avi playback03:30
BluesKajffmpeg03:30
r3BluesKaj - I installed the automatic proprietary driver i guess03:30
r3yeah i guess its ffmpeg03:30
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BluesKajr3 , dunno if this will help you , I ran this tutorial , now i have 3D DRI and tvtime all working on my ati x200G : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty03:32
r3when we talk about xgl -- compiz works fine .. yet boson claims there is no 3d support :D03:32
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r38.35.5 - is that current03:34
r3?03:34
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r3those eakamai.net used to be best drivers for ati03:34
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r3i know that for sure ... first time i got my beryl on only with those drivers and no else03:34
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BluesKajit's a patched and modded driver ..the current proprietary ati driver doesn't work anyway03:35
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BluesKajon feisty that is03:35
r3to be honest .. i would hate to mess up  my current config ..   just dont wanna reinstall the whole system again03:36
r3is there such thing as restore point on ubuntu ?03:37
BluesKajnot into beryl, but i luuv my ggogle earth03:37
r3blueskaj - your ati isnt mobility right ?03:37
BluesKajnope, pc03:38
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r3damn  ...03:38
r3never mind03:38
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BluesKajnot much diff , from what i've heard03:38
r3im looking forward to throw my f&&&&ng HP out of the window soon anyway03:38
r3i will never ever buy hp again03:38
dice14uI hate beryl03:39
BluesKajnot HP, r3, ati is the culprit03:39
MaTiAzyeah03:39
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Insane`KDE!imwheel03:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about imwheel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:39
BluesKajlotsa HPs with nvidia cards that rock03:39
Insane`KDE!info imwheel03:39
ubotuimwheel: program to support non-standard buttons on new mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0pre12-7 (feisty), package size 79 kB, installed size 268 kB03:39
r3no its not - hp chooses bad hw -  problems with wi-fi, sd reader, and so on ... its ok now.. but it took a long time03:39
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Insane`KDE!extramouse03:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about extramouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:40
r3any idea what is an average W consumption of an LAptop ?03:41
r3( blueskaj - thnx for the site anyway ) i might try it later03:41
BluesKajnp, r3.. good luck with it03:42
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r3blueskaj - no such thing as restore point (like in doze ) under ubuntu ?03:44
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BluesKajnot that i'm aware , r303:46
r3ok ... thnx03:46
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aymnmzbonjour !03:47
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bennihi!can somebody explain  how to mount an external ntfs drive to use the vmware machines on it, pls!03:48
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aymnmzoups, it's an english canal ?!?03:48
aymnmzso, bye !03:48
bennii think so03:48
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happytigerHowto remove pass word from root? So root doesnt have password. I happende to do sudo su --- and then passwd. So now my root has a pass. I dont want that want it back to none as before03:49
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stdinhappytiger: sudo passwd -d -l root03:50
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happytigerthx stdin03:50
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mrksbrdanyone know where i can get a list of sessions avail for d/l for ubuntu??03:51
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happytigerstdin how to test it? Test that it really is not there?03:51
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stdinhappytiger: try "su -" see if you can login03:51
happytigeroki03:51
happytigerthx03:51
happytigerU da man03:52
stdin:)03:52
stdinmrksbrd: sessions?03:52
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mrksbrdlogon sessions03:53
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mrksbrdlike kde....gnome03:53
LeeJunFanugh, nothing like losing power when you're 90% done converting a 400M video.03:53
Daisuke_Idodesktop environments and window managers03:54
happytigerIs it normal to have to /etc/password files? one called /etc/password-03:55
happytigerI am worried my server has been compromised03:55
stdinmrksbrd: for the officially supported ones, apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop03:55
mrksbrdok ty03:55
happytigerto = two03:55
stdinhappytiger: that's normal, the system makes a kind of cache of it03:55
happytigeroki03:55
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Daisuke_Idokde, gnome, xfce, fluxbox, icewm, windowmaker, enlightenment, CDE for the really masochistic...03:55
stdinhappytiger: you'll also have one for /etc/shadow and /etc/group03:55
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harmentalguys...what about google talk for linux??03:58
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Insane`KDEI need help configuring my mouse03:59
dhqInsane`KDE, what seems to be the problem03:59
Insane`KDEI've opened up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tried editing it, but I can't seem to get it to work03:59
dhqInsane`KDE, what kind of mouse03:59
Insane`KDEI'm on a laptop, and I have a scroll wheel but no middle mouse button, and I basically want to take that out03:59
Insane`KDENo matter what I do, scrolling down on teh scroll wheel is recognized as middle mouse button04:00
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dhqInsane`KDE, i had the same problem but i changed something there04:01
Insane`KDEHere's my xorg.conf extract: Highlighted lines were added by me04:02
Insane`KDEhttp://pastebin.org/17904:02
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Insane`KDEThe thing is, I sometimes connect a normal usb mouse onto the laptop, and I think the top half that text is meant for the other mouse, so I'm not sure04:03
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mrksbrdna that wasn't what i was looking for........i guess what i mean is different desktop environment selections b4 i log-in04:03
tOWLiehmm i have installed truecrypt but i cant find it anywhere04:03
tOWLiehow can i start it 04:04
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SeanTaterI want to slice and dice some video files.. and so farI can't find a program that keeps the audio and video in sync.. What programs are there available to do this?04:05
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BluesKajtOWLie: type it in the terminal04:05
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Insane`KDEAgain, how can I configure this file to remove the middle mouse button completely? http://pastebin.org/179 (highlighted lines were added by me)04:07
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tOWLieif i want to mount sdb1 into /.../musik what i have to do ?04:11
tOWLie^^ BluesKaj04:11
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Insane`KDEHere's my problem: http://pastebin.org/18204:16
Insane`KDEI tried adding "Buttons" "4", but it's still the same04:16
Insane`KDEIt could be that I'm editing the wrong section04:16
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Insane`KDE!mouse04:29
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto04:29
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mhbhello fellow kubuntuers. Do you know of a KDE/Kubuntu app similar to Photo Booth from OS X?04:29
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Insane`KDECan anybody help me configure my laptop mouse?04:29
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Insane`KDEIs anybody here at all or is this channel completely dead!??04:29
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mhbInsane`KDE: it looks dead to me :o)04:29
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mecannotreadhai04:29
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x_linkHi04:29
x_linkHow can I make a shortcut for kControl to my desktop?04:29
Insane`KDEDoes anybody have experience configuring mice?04:29
happytigercricket:x:120:127::/var/lib/cricket:/bin/false04:29
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happytigeris that a normal user?04:29
x_linkCan somebody please help me with that?04:29
praecoxno normal user would call himself cricket.04:29
praecoxso the answer is: no.04:29
happytigerdamn04:29
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happytigerI thinl I need reinstall som emahcines04:29
happytigerdamn damn damn04:29
happytigerOhh well at least I know .-)04:29
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Insane`KDEDoes anybody here have any experience whatsoever configuring mice or do I have to ask in #ubuntu?04:29
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sfireInsane`KDE: configure how?04:29
hasan?04:29
hasankcontrol _04:29
hasan?04:29
Insane`KDEMake buttons do what they're supposed to04:29
Insane`KDEIe. remap them04:29
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Insane`KDEI've tried modyfing xorg.conf but no luck there04:29
Man_Uhow can i auto identify my nick in konversation?04:29
sfireSystem Settings ----> keyboard&mouse04:29
happytigerHow to seen when a user ha been created?04:29
Insane`KDEsfire: Nothing there04:30
hasankcontrol search for mouse04:30
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happytigerI meant how to see the creation date of a user account04:30
jhutchinspraecox: Um, yeah.  Like no normal user would call himself praecox.04:31
Insane`KDEkcontrol, is that a package?04:31
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jhutchinspraecox: It's probably an account created for a program.  Note that the shell is /bin/false.04:31
hasanKStart button ->run command->kcontrol04:31
hasanor alt+f2 if u have not changed shortcuts04:32
jhutchinshappytiger: find out what package owns /var/lib/cricket04:32
hasani have changed them so that i can run it with win+r04:32
Insane`KDESo It comes with kubuntu? Good.04:32
praecoxjhutchins, it was a bit ironic. ;)04:32
hasanyep04:32
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hasanit's installed with kubuntu04:32
happytigercricket:!:13720:0:99999:7:::  an entry like this in /etc/shadows does that mean the accoutn has a blank pass?04:33
hasankubuntu is based on kde04:33
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Insane`KDEhasan: There's nothing there04:33
happytigerjhutchin how to determine which package own a dir?04:33
hasanif u are used to use windows i suggest you to use winlike shortcuts04:34
jhutchinshappytiger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto04:34
hasanare u a newbie kubuntu user ?04:34
milesadmiral ackbar says, "its a trap!"04:34
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Insane`KDEI uploaded my xorg.conf extract, if you wanna take a look at that. http://pastebin.org/18204:34
Insane`KDEThe highlighted lines were added by me04:35
milespastebin oh yea04:35
jhutchinshappytiger: dpkg -l /car/lib/cricket04:35
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jhutchinser, var.04:35
hasanInsane what do u wnat to change exactly ?04:35
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Insane`KDEhasan: I want to remove the middle mouse button completely, and make the mouse wheel work04:36
hasanas far as i can see there are so many options available for configuring mouse in kcontrol04:36
happytigerhmm seems i need reformat my machine def someone has been in here04:36
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hasanInsane: i donno how to do that sorry04:37
Insane`KDEhasan: I have a laptop mouse, with only four buttons. Problem is they're mapped incorrectly04:37
happytigerdpkg -l shows no packages having made that dir04:37
milesoic04:37
happytigerDamn my machine was finally running so smooth04:37
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milesInsane, as soon as you figure that out, let me know04:37
happytigerGotta start all over04:37
happytiger:-)04:37
milesi wanna map my mouse to reformat my machine when i click a certain button04:37
flipstonenow comes a stupid question, how do i use lilo as the boot manager04:38
tOWLiehow can i set, that also non-root users can use truecrypt volumes ?04:38
miles!lilo | flipstone04:38
ubotuflipstone: lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.04:38
Insane`KDE!mouse | miles04:38
ubotumiles: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto04:38
milesword up04:38
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khaije|bbhappytiger: why do you think yr machine was compromised?04:38
milesmy scroll wheel can move up down left right04:39
hasanInsane: http://www.ale.org/pipermail/ale/20040217/006960.html maybe that may be usefull i donno04:40
happytiger.. /var/log/auth.log  tells me a user cricket has been logged in04:40
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flipstoneand how can i change the order of the different os'es in the grub?04:40
jhutchins!search cricket04:40
ubotuFound:04:40
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happytigerYeah I think I better just go home backup and start from scratch as I have thinks from work here that def should not get out04:41
happytigerThis time I will look at security much more04:42
tOWLiehow can i set, that also non-root users can use truecrypt volumes ?04:42
happytigerStandard kubuntu install didnt cut it :-)04:42
happytigerThx for the help guys04:42
Insane`KDEWith what keyboard combo do I restart the Xserver? Ctrl + Alt + Backspace?04:42
cloakableYes04:42
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Insane`KDEDamnit, still can't get it to work04:43
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Insane`KDEI did "xmodmap -e "mouse = 1 2 3 4""04:44
Insane`KDEOh, why does linux overcomplicate such simple things?04:44
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Insane`KDEDAMNIT04:46
Insane`KDENow I have only two working mouse buttons04:46
Insane`KDEI managed to deactivate my second mouse buttons completely, now I only have mousewheel down, which is recognized as middle mouse, and normal click04:46
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Insane`KDEIf this continues I'll have to scrap my laptop's touchpad/mouse and buy a new one...04:48
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Cratosu04:48
Insane`KDEJust because Xserver won't remap the damn ekys.....04:48
Insane`KDEMAybe I could just open up my laptop and reconnect the wires manually04:49
Insane`KDEAnybody here have experience opening a laptop?04:49
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cloakableInsane`KDE: IBM ones, aye.04:50
jhutchinsInsane`KDE: I think you should go back to windows.  You're obviously not happy with the options linux gives you.04:50
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tOWLiehow can i change the permissions for a folder ?04:50
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strabestOWLie: with a gui?04:50
tOWLiejo04:51
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tOWLieyes04:51
strabestOWLie: you can just use sudo chmod -R XXX /path/to/folder04:51
strabesit's easier to just use the command line04:51
tOWLiewhat means the XXX ?04:51
strabesbut yo uhave to use the -R flag to make it recursive04:51
strabestOWLie: they're the permission numbers04:51
Ace2016Insane`KDE: what are you trying to do?04:51
Insane`KDEAce2016: Make my laptop touchpad keys do what they're supposed to, ie. remap them04:52
tOWLiecuz everytime i mount a volume with truecrypt the mountfolder is not accessable with konquerer04:52
strabestOWLie: it might be mounted as readable only by root04:52
Insane`KDEAce2016: Since I didn't get it to work software wise after 3 hours of editing xorg.conf and installing packages, I'm resorting to unscrewing my laptop and manually connecting the wires04:52
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strabestOWLie: is it in your /etc/fstab or are you just automagically mounting it04:52
tOWLieno i mountet it with the terminal04:53
strabesInsane`KDE: what do you mean by "laptop touchpad keys"04:53
tOWLieand it is really set to read root only04:53
strabestOWLie: you probably mounted it with the wrong permissions. what is the command you used?04:53
tOWLietruecrypt -i04:53
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jhutchinsMy touchpads have always worked as expected by default.  I've had to mess with drivers for the pad itself, but the scroll functions work, and the buttons have never been a problem.04:53
jhutchinsIBM, Winbook, Toshiba.04:54
Insane`KDEstrabes: My mouse buttons04:54
tOWLiestrabes ^^ pm04:54
strabesInsane`KDE: they don't work??04:54
Insane`KDEjhutchins: Basically my right mouse button does nothing, and my mouse wheel down button is recognized as middle button.04:54
harmentalhey guys...i want to take control of a winxp machine over the internet....what software would you recommend?04:55
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Insane`KDEstrabes: Some of them don't work, others are recognized wrongly04:55
Insane`KDEI just want to simply remap them04:55
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Insane`KDENothing complicated, just remap them04:55
Insane`KDEIe. switch two mosue buttons' functions04:55
jhutchinsInsane`KDE: Are you familiar with xev?04:56
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Ace2016Insane`KDE: run xev from konsole, click the box, look at what button number in xev corresponds to what buttons, make a note of it,    in a new konsole tab run    xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7"  change the number order to change what the buttons do, once you get what you want add this to your xorg.conf       Option          "ButtonMapping"         "1 2 3 4 5 6 7"     with the order you came up with in the  section for your mouse04:56
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Insane`KDEAce2016: I did that and the two buttons that aren't recognized do nothing at all04:58
mecannotreadhai        guys04:59
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strabeshow do I tell that my computer is recognizing a lid close event?05:00
Ace2016Insane`KDE: tried changing the driver?05:00
Insane`KDEAce2016: No, but funnily enough all the buttons were recognized, but scrambled when I first started testing05:01
Insane`KDESome change I did thoughout the process must've scrambled it05:01
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strabesMy laptop suspends and resumes perfectly when using the logout menu, but it will not suspend when the lid is closed even though it is set to do so in the kde power manager05:01
strabesany ideas?05:02
jhutchinsInsane`KDE: Just restore the backup you made of your xorg.conf, it should go back to the way it was.05:02
Ace2016the backup you *should* have made05:03
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Insane`KDEAce2016: I did make a backup, at least Kate did automatically05:04
jhutchinsInsane`KDE: Then again, if you used comments to preserve and document the changes you made, you could just reverse them.05:04
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Ace2016Insane`KDE: which gets overwritten the second you save more than once05:05
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Insane`KDEIn fact I did all of that, backup, and the comments05:05
jhutchinsstrabes: Well, if your laptop handled the event as expected, it wouldn't be a problem.  We'd probably have to know the brand and model to start with.05:05
Insane`KDEAnd I have a copy of my latest working .conf in there too that gets written if booted succesfully05:06
Insane`KDESo yeah, I'm just doing a total reboot just to be sure now05:06
strabesit's a dell inspiron e1705. if "lock screen" is checked, it turns off the screen05:06
Ace2016Insane`KDE: try booting back into the liveCD and see if the buttons work, then copy that conf05:06
jhutchinsInsane`KDE: Why would you reboot to just restart X?05:06
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Insane`KDEjhutchins: Just because05:06
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cloakableO.o05:07
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sbunhey is anyone about?05:07
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jhutchins!ask05:08
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:08
strabesjhutchins:  it's a dell inspiron e1705. if "lock screen" is checked, it turns off the screen05:08
strabesso obviously it's seeing the event05:08
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sbunheh k05:08
anticitizen1_HELP needed, setting up an envida card, cause beryl is having problems with it-05:08
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jhutchinsstrabes: I have yet to get into the docs for suspend/resume myself.05:09
strabesoh. thanks anyway05:09
BluesKaj!beryl | anticitizen1_05:09
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ubotuanticitizen1_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:09
jhutchinsanticitizen1_: If beryl is running, you've already set it up.05:09
sbuni've install kubuntu, trying to use wifi on a broadcom chipset, have it loaded with ndiswrapper. i used knetworkmanager to try to connect but it only gets to 28%05:09
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sbunim using WPA also btw05:10
anticitizen1_im trying to install beryl, but it shows this error: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."05:10
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Ace2016anticitizen1_: are the nvidia drivers installed and running?05:10
jhutchins!bck43xx | sbun05:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bck43xx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:10
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jhutchins!bcm43xx | sbun05:10
ubotusbun: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx05:10
jhutchinssbun: It's really easy.05:11
anticitizen1_Im not sureif theyre running. (Only 2 days running kubuntu & linux)05:11
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sbunwhy does it start connecting and just stop though?05:11
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jhutchinsanticitizen1_: well, if beryl is loading, then you have GLX enabled.05:11
jhutchinssbun: Did you install the firmware cutter as it says to in the docs?05:12
jhutchinsanticitizen1_: Beryl is very unstable and often doesn't work, it's not something you can easily fix.05:12
sbunno o_005:12
VSpikeI can't figure all this stuff like superkaramba, plasma, google gadgets, yahoo widgets, and all the other desktop accoutrements... I mean, I only see my desktop at login.  Is it just me missing the point?05:12
anticitizen1_really? cause when i type in a terminal beryl-manager its shows: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".05:13
jhutchinssbun: Read the docs, all will be revealed, you will be on-line shortly.05:13
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sbunits a dual boot so i have to keep rebooting, reading the docs and going back05:13
sbunok will do05:13
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VSpikeIn all the screenshots, there are lovely clean desktops with no apps running05:13
jhutchinsanticitizen1_: Ah, then bery is NOT running.05:13
VSpikeAll very well, but how often does that ever happen?05:13
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jhutchinsanticitizen1_: You do NOT have GLX enabled.05:13
VSpikeMaybe I'm just being a grumpy old git05:13
jhutchins!nvidia | anticitizen1_05:13
ubotuanticitizen1_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:13
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server_any noes how to get and irc network working on ubuntu05:14
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anticitizen1_how i can enable GTX?05:14
jhutchinsanticitizen1_: Follow the directions in the URL above.05:15
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sbunthese are for ubuntu, im guessing they work the same for kubuntu?05:15
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jhutchinssbun: Yes.05:15
mileshello05:15
jhutchinssbun: Wireless manager is a bit different iirc.05:15
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server_lol05:15
Man_Usome blender cracks here?05:16
Insane`KDEOk, now I still need to know which device to alter in xorg.conf05:16
Insane`KDEI have about 5 different mice in my xorg.conf05:17
sbunis wpa_supplicant required with Knetworkmanager?05:17
Insane`KDE!mouse | Insane`KDE05:17
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anticitizen1_how i can acces to the "Restricted Devices Manager"05:19
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VSpikeanticitizen1_: kdesu restricted-manager05:19
VSpikelame that Kubuntu doesn't have a kde equivalent, or provide a menu item for it05:20
Insane`KDENow, I have another question05:20
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Insane`KDEHow do I skip a certain button? In my ButtonMapping I currently have "1 3 2", while it should be "1 3 X 2" or something. What do I put in for the X?05:21
MaTiAzSo um05:22
MaTiAzHow do I access trash? :|05:22
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anticitizen1_i got 2 errors: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154" then after giving my password05:23
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anticitizen1_sh:05:23
anticitizen1_restricted-manager: not found05:23
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Insane`KDEWhere can I update my drivers for my mouse? It seems one button isn't recognized at all, totally05:24
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Insane`KDEEven at hardware-level it isn't recognized05:24
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anticitizen1_how i know wich version if kubuntu im running?05:29
anticitizen1_sh:05:29
anticitizen1_restricted-manager: not found05:29
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sbunwhat does the firmware cutter do anyway?05:32
sbuni know thats a stupid question05:32
sbunbut why is it necessary05:32
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anticitizen1_sbun: me?05:33
kaiI accidently deleted some import stuff like my Apt-get stuff05:33
kaiE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (2 No such file or directory)05:33
kaiE: Unable to lock the list directory05:33
kaiIs there  a way I can rebuild it?05:34
kai...or am I totally screwed05:34
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mileswhat does it mean if something is free as in beer?05:35
sbunnah anticitizen1_05:35
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milesi know free as in freedom means you are free to change it05:35
cloakablemiles: You don't have to pay for it05:35
milesok thanks05:35
cloakableThat's what 'free as in beer' means05:35
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kaican anyone help me out with thta if im missing my apt-get folder05:37
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savetheWorldbut remember , even free beer can never truly be owned... only borrowed... :-)05:39
anticitizen1_nvidia porblems05:40
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Ahmuckdoes kubuntu have a real time secure kernel?05:43
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anticitizen1how to uninstall kubuntu?05:45
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sbunformat?05:45
anticitizen1mm, no, i have other OS working.05:45
sbunon different partitions right?05:46
anticitizen1yes (i want to delete kubun and install ubuntu)..05:46
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Ace2016kubuntu and ubuntu are pretty much the same only difference is the desktop05:47
sbunboot the ubuntu cd, it should let you format the kubuntu partition and install over that05:47
sbunbut yeah05:47
Ace2016ubuntu uses gnome, which is yuck, and kubuntu uses kde which is great05:47
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sbunive always hated gnome, a lot of people love it05:47
Ace2016back up work though05:47
Ace2016gnome is like marmite of the desktop environment world05:48
sbunheh05:48
Ace2016its just too simple for me, lacks features05:48
strabesdoes anyone know how to disable the default power manager in kubuntu from starting? I switched to kpowersave and it starts up automatically and I don't want kubuntu's default one starting up automaticalyl anymore.05:48
sbunflux ftw05:48
Ace2016i have to try enlightenment sometime05:48
whizadreehey05:49
Ace2016strabes: install bum05:49
whizadreei got one mean problem today05:49
Ace2016what is it?05:49
sbunok im gonna try get this damn wifi going, i might see you soon :)05:49
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whizadreei have a dell inspiron e1704 aka as the 940005:50
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strabeswhizadree: just ask!!05:50
dennistergm channel05:50
whizadreeand trying to install it05:50
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anticitizen1kubuntu VS ubuntu: wich will detect in a proper way my GPU (nvidia)?05:50
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frojndwhat packages do I have to install that visualizations under tools in amarok will work ?05:51
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strabesanticitizen1: they'll both probably be the same since their only difference is the Desktop Environment05:51
frojndanticitizen1: doesn't matter..05:51
strabesfrojnd: libvisual-0.4-005:51
whizadreecoming up with some errors and blank screens on install05:51
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strabeswhizadree: switch to a virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) and install the drivers manually05:52
strabeswhizadree: us ati users have to do this on every install!!05:52
whizadreehave to bare with me because this is of course on another laptop05:52
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pussfellerDIY FTW05:52
strabeswhizadree: bear* haha05:52
pussfellererr05:52
whizadree:-P05:52
frojndstrabes: strange, I allready have this package libvisual-0.4-005:52
pussfellersorry05:52
whizadreetypo05:52
strabesfrojnd: did you restart amarok?05:53
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strabesfrojnd: what is the error you get when you try to run the visualizations?05:53
frojndI allready have it strabes... since allways..05:53
anticitizen1OK, but i cant enble my GPU driver under kubuntu:05:53
frojndstrabes: this package or plugin is missing05:53
kaiis there any way I can re-create my "apt-get" stuff?05:53
whizadreei tried following one of those ati setups with the 9400 from linux-laptops05:53
whizadreestill zero luck05:54
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anticitizen1i get xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.005:54
dennisterhaving a problem with clock drift here in this re-installation, so i'm trying to adjust the time to use my ntp client (was never configured properly), and i can't because i'm asked for my password, i type it in, and i keep getting "conversation with su failed".........so i guess i really need to troubleshoot why the su conversation isn't working properly...anyone have any idea as to what's going on, and how to fix the su prob05:54
strabeswhizadree: but you have an nvidia card....05:54
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strabesAce2016: I installed BUM; do you know the processname for the default kubuntu power manager?05:55
frojndstrabes: I've installed plugin and now it works. Is there a full screen mode for vizualizations ? or just maximized screen ?05:55
Riddellstrabes: guidance-power-manager05:55
whizadreestrabes, : no def an ati05:55
strabesfrojnd: i think if you left or right click on it it goes fullscreen05:55
strabeswhizadree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b05:56
anticitizen1X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15405:56
strabeswhizadree: just follow those instructions in a virtual terminal05:56
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dennisterthe same password i'm using for graphical input works fine in terminal05:57
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strabesRiddell: I can't find guidance-power-manager in bum!!05:57
whizadreestrabes : thnx ill give that a try05:57
strabeswhizadree: np. When you're done run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"05:57
strabeswhizadree: you're using kubuntu right?05:58
whizadreeyup05:58
strabesyeah run that when you're done05:58
Riddellstrabes: it's a python app, it may be shown as "python"05:58
strabesRiddell: nothing like that either. :(05:59
dennistercan anyone help with this kde su problem?05:59
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dennisteri can't fix anything here until i get my su priviledges06:00
strabesdennister: use "sudo" to temporarily become root06:01
strabesdennister: or are you trying to run a gui app as root? in that case use "kdesu command"06:02
whizadreeon boot up what does  intel_ring : FWH not found mean?06:02
whizadreerng06:02
whizadreenot ring06:02
cloakableNo idea06:03
cloakablewhizadree: no idea, and it doesn't seem to make a difference06:03
strabeswhizadree: I don't know, but google has several results with that exact error: http://www.google.com/search?q=intel_rng%3A+fwh+not+found&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a06:03
dennisterstrabes: i was trying to run a gui app...all gui apps requiring root access would give me password dialog, i'd type it in (correctly!) and i'd always get the error message06:06
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strabesdennister: what error message?06:06
strabesdennister: in terminal?06:06
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dennisterstrabes: "conversation with su failed"...no same password worked fine in terminal06:07
dennisterso i just added myself to more things in /etc/group06:07
strabesdennister: oh, strange. I was expecting a different error. have you tried searching ubuntuforums.org or google?06:07
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dennisterstrabes: the solutions offered usually include using more gui apps...which i couldn't06:08
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dennisterhold on...my work with /etc/group seems to be bearing some fruit06:09
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strabesdennister: ok, cool06:09
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codexhello everyone, i need a lil help, my sound is not working and i don't know why, i just install kubuntu 7.406:09
level1does ubuntu come with ssh-server by default or do I have to install it?06:09
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codexcan anybody help me06:09
pag!sound | codex06:10
ubotucodex: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:10
pagcodex, also check, if mixer is unmuted06:10
strabescodex: First thing is to make sure nothing is muted. If not, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide06:10
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dennisterstrabes: at least it didn't even ask me for my password to get into the 'adjust date & time'...i'll have to try and fix underlying kde su later06:10
whizadreestrabes: i get to kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common    then it says cannot connect to X server06:10
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anticitizen1Cant save changes on /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:11
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strabeswhizadree: kate kind of sucks anyway lol, use leafpad; it's faster06:11
strabeswhizadree: and you can just run "sudo leafpad /etc/X11/xorg.conf"06:11
strabeswhizadree: or just nano if you want terminal-based06:12
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dennisterthat's wierd...can't seem to connect to any of the public time servers...06:12
codexthanks06:13
strabesdennister: i've had problems with that too. it's not that important me06:13
strabesto me*06:13
whizadreeafter all that nothing disabled :-P06:13
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dennisterstrabes: well it is to me i'm afraid...this is a mythtv box, and so clock skew is fairly important...i wouldn't be able to record tv shows while i'm away if the clock isn't correct06:14
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UnksiGTK software crawls compared to Qt software in my laptop, is there any way to speed it up?06:14
strabesdennister: oh, sorry =\06:14
dennisteri just realized: the feisty documentation doesn't mention anything about setting up the ntp client...which dapper and edgy certainly did06:15
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tOWLiehi there06:15
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tOWLieis it possible to put an root command in a file on the desktop so i can run it after the boot ??06:16
jhutchinstOWLie: Well, you certainly couldn't run it before the boot.06:16
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jhutchins!autostart | tOWLie06:17
tOWLieno but when kubuntu is fisnished06:17
ubotutOWLie: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.06:17
thehcdreamerhello, i'm using "kate" but i'm not able to write arrows() did someone have the some problem? thanks Oscar06:17
ScuniziAfter trying to access "system settings/user management" I get an error that the module could not be loaded. Anyone know how to fix this?06:18
tOWLieok but how can i make a file like that ?06:18
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kaidoes any one now how to rebuild the apt db than can help me out at all06:18
Scunizikai, from commandline, sudo apt-get update? or is that not the db you're talking about.06:19
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jhutchinskai: Why do you think you need to rebuild the database?06:20
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tOWLiejhutchins i just installed the package kcontrol-autostart, what next ?06:21
jhutchinstOWLie: I dunno, run it and see.06:21
jhutchinstOWLie: Start kcontrol and look for a new applet to control autostart programs.06:22
tOWLiekcontrol-autostart06:22
tOWLiesystemroot@systemroot-unix:~$ kcontrol-autostart06:22
tOWLiebash: kcontrol-autostart: command not found06:22
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tOWLiedont work06:22
kaiScunizi: no the whole 'apt dir' is gone06:23
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kaibecasue when I do ap-tget update it says file or director doens't exist06:24
whizadreestrabes : i now get to  the fglrxinfo : comes back at Error : unable to open display 006:24
jhutchinstOWLie: kdesu kcontrol06:24
strabeswhizadree: did you do the extensions composite disable thing?06:24
whizadreeyup06:25
tOWLiehabs06:25
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strabeswhizadree: sorry, g2g. search google for that. It's a pretty common error06:26
Scunizikai, you have to type this exactly, with all lower case letters, without the quotes("), sudo apt-get update06:26
tOWLiei made a screenshot06:26
tOWLieu think it works like that ?06:26
kaiScunizi: I've done it plenty plus when I do it thru the GUI it messes up and say the APT DB is messed up06:27
jhutchinskai: what's the exact error?06:27
Scunizikai, sorry.. I can't help06:27
BluesKajwhizadree , actually the "disable" is wrong , it should read "Composite"   "0"06:28
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kaiCould not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (2 No such file or directory)06:28
kaithats from CLI06:28
kaiThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem06:28
kaiThats from gui06:28
BluesKajkai, close all instances of package managers like adept , apt or synaptic06:29
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kaiso u have alil backgroud06:29
khandihello! i was wondering if anyone could assist me with a little problem i have with my sdb1 drive06:29
kaiI was tryin to remove something and I did a rm -r and deleted more than what I intended06:30
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dennisterk, seems there's a bug filed in relation to kdesu06:31
jhutchins!aptfix06:31
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:31
kaiBluesKaj: There are no other instances of any other package managers06:31
dromer!ask | khandi06:31
ubotukhandi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:31
MarcC_I can't get any of my available screen resolutions to take effect from System Settings. Anybody know why?06:31
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jhutchinsMarcC_: You have an LCD?06:31
MarcC_jhutchins: yep06:31
bigfork181moo06:31
sbunhey guys i successfully got the wireless card going, but i cant connect to the internet06:31
dennistersome things aren't locking at bootime...will try to reboot to see if problem persists, now that i know a workaround (dangerous, but can use it temporarily)06:31
khandiok my sdb1 has a bad superblock... how do i get it working again without losing my files (i could transfer the files to another drive if i am able to)06:31
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jhutchinsMarcC_: LCD's often have a locked resolution.06:32
sbuni can ping my router06:32
sbunbut nowhere on the internet06:32
MarcC_jhutchins: ok, thanks - I didn't know that.06:32
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jhutchinsMarcC_: You might be able to find more about that model display, but single resolution is pretty common.06:32
MarcC_jhutchins: I'm wondering if a resolution like 1680x1050 will work OK with a projector I'll need to use tomorrow?06:32
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jhutchinsMarcC_: I doubt it.06:32
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kaiCannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock: No such file or directory06:33
kaidpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: No such file or directory06:33
jhutchinsMarcC_: Most projectors are fairly low res.06:33
sbunanyone got any idea whats up?06:33
kaiwhen I ran that command06:33
jhutchinsMarcC_: Depends on the projector though.06:33
MarcC_jhutchins: drat, thanks06:33
kaiI have to re-install huh06:33
jhutchinssbun: does route show a default gateway?06:33
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dromerkhandi: I remember something with mkfs that fixed a bad superblock for me .. but I can't be sure. do fsck on the disk anyway to see what's going on06:33
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sbunwhat is a default gateway (sorry for being dumb)06:33
BluesKajkai, dunno , maybe  sudo aptitude install apt ?06:33
sbunthe router ip is 192.168.1.1 i thought this was the gateway06:34
jhutchinsrun sudo route and see what it says.06:34
kaiBluesKaj: Lemme try that06:34
sbunok06:34
sbunbrb06:34
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khandi@dromer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32790/06:35
kaiBluesKaj: Same error06:35
jhutchinsHm.  I think you'd better restore your apt folders from your backup.06:36
dromerkhandi: what filesystem is it? ext3 ?06:36
khandidromer, yes06:36
tkittyexecuting grub hdo failed06:36
kaijhutchins: yea Im scrwed,06:36
dromerperhaps try fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb1 instead ?06:36
dromerkhandi: whan do you get the error specifically?06:37
dromerwhen*06:37
tkittywho can help me loadin of grub?06:37
tkittyerr with06:37
khandidromer http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32792/06:37
dromerkhandi: that I guess there's nothing wrong :P06:38
khandidromer: when i try to do "mount -a"06:38
dromerthen*06:38
khandidromer: let me show you06:38
tOWLiejhutchins06:38
tOWLieare u herre ?06:39
dromerkhandi: and what if you don't have the -a flag set?06:39
jhutchinstOWLie: Sorta.06:39
khandihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32795/06:39
khandidromer: yesterday it worked fine.. but i did restart my x-server, could it have anything to do with it?06:39
dromerkhandi: you are running the mount as sudo are you?06:39
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dromerkhandi: no06:39
khandidromer: yes i am06:39
tOWLiejhutchins  :  http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1578/photo1hb7.png06:39
tOWLieu think that could work ?06:40
dromerkhandi: try the mount again, and dmesg | tail after that and see what errors are in there06:40
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jhutchinstOWLie: Looks like it.  Why not try it and see?06:40
khandidromer: ext3: No journal on filesystem on sdb106:40
dromerhmm06:41
tOWLiei have to run it as root06:41
dromerI'm lost here, anyone else?06:41
jhutchinsTHen add sudo.06:41
khandidromer: the drive is in my fstab06:41
jhutchinstOWLie: That's going to be a problem, because running it as root requires a password.06:41
tOWLiesudo truecrypt -u /dev/sdb1 /home/systemroot/Musik  <<<?06:41
tOWLieyes i know06:41
tOWLieok lets try06:42
tOWLiereboot06:42
tOWLiesee u soon :)06:42
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jhutchinstOWLie: I would think that the truecrypt documentation would tell you how to mount an encrypted drive automatically.06:42
khandidromer: could it be that i made an error in my fstab? or should that not give that problem? yesterday it worked fine!06:42
MarcCjhutchins: regarding my resolution change problem...I just tested in GNOME/Ubuntu and I can change it just fine...I wonder why I can't in KDE System Settings?06:43
dromerkhandi: weird stuff man, paste your fstab for everyone perhaps?06:43
jhutchinsMarcC: Try using krandrtray06:43
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MarcCjhutchins: oh that is a slick app! I'll try it in KDE, thanks06:44
khandidromer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32799/06:44
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khandidromer: fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32799/06:44
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jhutchinskhandi: what happens if you just do sudo mount /dev/sdb1?06:45
ackbahrHi there! I just bought more RAM, so I used Gparted LiveCD to resize my linux-swap part, but now Ubuntu says it's not swapping anywhere.... Can someone help me set this right?06:45
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khandi@dromer: same error06:45
khandidromer: superblock error06:46
tOWLiedid not work...06:46
MarcCjhutchins: krandrtray works fine in Kubuntu. Weird.06:46
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jhutchinsMarcC: Right tool for the job.06:46
MarcCjhutchins: should I file a bug on the System Settings tool or something?06:46
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khandidromer: could it be that i should add a UUID line in my fstab?06:47
sbunmy wifi connects, but i cant access any external ip's06:47
sbuni did sudo route06:47
jhutchinskhandi: try sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb106:47
jhutchinsMarcC: Yes, I think you should.06:47
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khandidromer, jhutchins LOL thanks :D how do i make sure it does this automatically from now on?06:48
jhutchinssbun: sudo route displays your routing table.  Did it have a default gateway?06:48
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jhutchinskhandi: type sudo mount and see what it says about sdb106:48
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sbunhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32801/plain/06:48
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khandijhutchins /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1 type ext2 (rw)06:49
jhutchinskhandi: See the problem?06:49
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khandijhutchins sorry, but i do not... im fairly new to this06:49
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jhutchinssbun: try disabling eth0 - sudo ifconfig eth0 down06:49
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sbunok06:50
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sbunyeah im not even using eth006:50
jhutchinskhandi: There was a hint when fsck reported no journal for sdb1.  ext3 is ext2 with journaling.  THe error you were getting probably said "bad superblock OR WRONG FS TYPE".06:50
sbunis that whats messing with it?06:50
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khandijhutchins that is correct06:51
jhutchinskhandi: You can either enable journaling by following the ext3 docs, or change the fs type in fstab from ext3 to ext2.06:51
jhutchinskhandi: /dev/sdb1 is ext2, not 3.06:51
khandijhutchins changing it to ext2 has no implications on my current files on there?06:51
khandijhutchins in my fstab that is06:52
jhutchinskhandi: No.  It's been ext2 all along I suspect.06:52
tOWLiehow can i unzip *rar files ?06:52
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khandijhutchins ok and when i reboot it should automatically mount it again?06:52
jhutchinstOWLie: You don't, you unrar them (in console).06:52
Scunizionce nvidia drivers are working properly, how do I get 3d desktop effects?  Is there a menu option someplace or do I need to install beryl?06:52
jhutchinskhandi: Yes.  The reason it wasn't mounting was what it told you: wrong fs type.06:52
jhutchinsScunizi: #ubuntu-effects06:53
tOWLie!unrar06:53
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free06:53
Scunizijhutchins: thnks06:53
khandijhutchins thanks mate i will change it!06:53
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tOWLie!info unrar-free06:53
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB06:53
tOWLiehow is the command for unrar-free ?06:54
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runleveltenGuys, check your ssh logs. I'm seeing a crazy amount of sshd crack attempts for myself and other machines.06:55
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runleveltenrepetitive name lists, too.06:55
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jean-benoit!fr06:56
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:56
jhutchinsrunlevelten: set an iptables rule to throttle it.06:56
jhutchinsrunlevelten: I find that once the attacks start to fail, they stop coming.06:56
jhutchinsrunlevelten: What firewall do you have?06:57
runleveltenjhutchins: it won't achieve anything here, but it looks hella automated.06:57
jhutchinsrunlevelten: Well, it's annoying as heck, and it really does go away if you throttle it.06:57
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jhutchinsiptables -A INPUT -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m limit --limit 3/min --limit-burst 3 -j ACCEPT06:58
runleveltenjhutchins: I'm used to like clumps for maybe 5 minutes. This is on various machines for about 3 hours.06:58
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jhutchinsrunlevelten: in my experience, if your machine is accepting flood connection attempts, that will trigger more attempts.  Maybe the bots pass your IP on to each other or something.06:59
jhutchinsrunlevelten: I manually shut down ssh on one machine for about five minutes.  When I brought it back up the floods were gone.07:00
kaminixHow do I wget from this site: http://massuki.com/je/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=53 ? When I wget one of the files it gives me an index.html, works with firefox though.07:00
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jhutchinsBluesKaj: Why you need a firewall.07:01
MaTiAzhey, why does Unreal Tournament 2004 keep exiting to the desktop all of a sudden? :|07:01
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Brute force ssh login attacks.07:01
MaTiAzIt does it every once in a while07:01
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Ace2016MaTiAz: install the latest patches for it07:01
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sudeepi don't like icon bounching side of mouse pointer every time i launch an app... how can i remove it.. ?07:01
BluesKajbehand a seimens speedstream 6300 router with hardware FW07:02
BluesKajbehind07:02
sudeepi don't like icon bounching side of mouse pointer every time i launch an app... how can i remove it.. ?07:02
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jhutchins!repeat07:03
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience07:03
Ace2016sudeep: kcontrol > Appearance & Themes > Launch Feedback07:03
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sudeepAce2016, i don't seem to have kcontrol ??07:04
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pagsudeep, press alt+f2 and type kcontrol07:05
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sbunhahahaha07:06
sbunit worked07:06
sbun<307:06
sbunthanks a lot guys, disabling eth0 and messing with the gateway did iu07:07
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sbunit07:07
sbunnow to try beryl07:07
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whizadreeanyone able to help me with an install on a dell laptop 6400?07:08
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khaije0|bbto unghost a nick?07:09
sbunwhat do you need whizadree?07:10
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whizadreea working kubuntu system on a 6400 would be the best thing today :) ive tried various things that someone else told me07:11
sbunwhat have you tried07:12
khaije0|bbcan any1 tell me how to unghost a nick? I always forget...07:13
sbunyou mean kill a ghost?07:13
khaije0|bbyup07:13
sbun  /msg nickserv kill nickname password07:13
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sbuni think..07:13
sbuniirc07:13
khaije0|bbk ill try thx07:13
sbunno wait07:13
sbunghost. not kill07:14
sbunlol07:14
GeekosaurGreetings and Salutations, y'all.07:14
kaminixHow do I wget from this site: http://massuki.com/je/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=53 ? When I wget one of the files it gives me an index.html, works with firefox though.07:14
whizadreehttp://linuxhelp.150m.com/ati/ati.htm   ive also tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b07:14
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fredlhi I'm trying to run lphoto on ubuntu but it gives python errors.07:17
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fredlcould the dependencies be off a bit?07:17
fredlI'm getting these: result = QMessageBox.warning(None, i18n("Lphoto: Remove Album"), i18n("Do you want to remove %s?"%(name)), i18n("Yes, remove the album."), i18n("No"),  None,  1, 1)07:18
fredlTypeError: argument 6 of QMessageBox.warning() has an invalid type07:18
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fredlalthough 'None' looks like a strange argument to me but I know nothing of Python.07:18
whizadreesbun :ive gotten it to work on my desktop box but its the laptop thats givin the problems today07:19
whizadreeduhl07:19
whizadreeanyone else that can spare a few moments07:20
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khandihi, does anyone here play Americas Army? i installed it. but i am not able to play it :d when i click the file, it does not start07:23
whizadreeyeah thats because theres no one left :)07:24
whizadreeyou have to download the patch /iraq07:24
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Geekosaurwhizadree - I just came in the door, but I have been around a few doors in Linux.  What's the problem?07:25
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IcewormWhere can I set konqueror to detail list view, by default?07:25
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khandihi, does anyone here play Americas Army? i installed it. but i am not able to play it :d when i click the file, it does not start, it does not do anything at all07:25
whizadreegeek its complete failure of boot up07:25
pagkhandi, try to set exec right to the file07:25
pagkhandi, chmod +x /path/to/file07:26
GeekosaurWhat exactly happens?  Do you get to grub?07:26
pagIceworm, choose the detail view and then save the profile07:26
khandipag: is that the path without the executable file behind it? or including that file?07:27
pagkhandi, incluning the file07:27
whizadreeGeekosaur : ok i get the first Kubuntu screen with start or install ect07:27
whizadreewhich do you think i should use and any extra options (f6) should i use07:28
khandipag: i already have the file to accept the current user07:29
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pagkhandi, hmm.. run the file from the command line, and see if it outputs something..07:30
GeekosaurThat sounds like the grub screen.  Press enter and what happens?07:30
GeekosaurJust go with the top choice for now.07:31
francishello, any expert in Kubuntu and Beryl ?07:31
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underdog5004hey guys, I woke up this morning, and my server was sending/receiving a bunch of traffic, so I looked at /var/log/auth.log. Can anyone tell me if this looks bad or not? http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/32813/07:31
khandipag: http://pastebin.com/m6e79004007:31
underdog5004btw, I never made a user nobody on my system07:31
whizadreeGeekosaur : loads kernel ,,, shows moving bar  and graphic .... waits about 45 secs and goes blank with a white blink cursor then starts load   produces a cat error with /var acpi  then goes back to the logo screen for about 30 sec then stays blank with the cursor blinking once again and thats it07:32
pagkhandi, try installing libstdc++5  (with apt-get / adpet)07:33
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GeekosaurIt sounds like you have an acpi error07:33
whizadreeGeekosaur : if i press ctrl alt and f1 i get the text login07:34
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GeekosaurWhen you boot, you will have to interrupt the automatic start (from the grub screen just arrow down and we will go from there.07:34
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khandipag: how should i install it? can't find it in my packages07:35
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whizadreek done07:35
khandipag: what exact command should i type in my terminal? or add/remove software program?07:35
whizadreecountdown stopped07:35
GeekosaurYou have an X problem, probably brought about by your video card.   Waht are you using?07:35
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pagkhandi, sudo apt-get install libstdc++507:36
whizadreethe dreaded ati mobility x140007:36
pag!info libstdc++507:36
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ubotulibstdc++5: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-15ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 289 kB, installed size 852 kB07:36
ksivajipag how to configure apache07:36
GeekosaurFrom your text login screen, login as you.07:36
pag!apache | ksivaji07:37
ubotuksivaji: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)07:37
GeekosaurOh my lord.07:37
khandipag: thanks you very much :)07:37
milesomgz0rz07:38
mileshow do u unmount a samba share?07:38
whizadreeGeekosaur : btw its 7.0407:38
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milesi thought it was "umount [share name] "07:38
GeekosaurI am afraid that you need expertise beyond my skills now.  I have never used the ATI card and don't plan on doing so, even though I could hit their offices with a rock.07:39
underdog5004How can I tell which program(s) is generating network traffic?07:39
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milesbecause i tried that "umount [share] " and nothing happened, so i assumed it did it correctly, however, "ls [share] " shows everything on the share still07:39
whizadreeGeekosaur,  i give permission07:39
francisanybody who knows how to install Beryl on Kubunto 7.0.4 ?07:39
milesfrancis: "sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald emerald-themes"07:40
GeekosaurThanks, whizadree., and good luck. :)07:40
milesfrancis: after that, press <ctrl>+<alt>+<backspace twice>07:40
francisthanks, is it really working on Kubuntu ?07:40
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ksivaji!tasksel07:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tasksel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:40
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milesyea07:41
whizadreedo you know anyone with better ati experience ?07:41
milesit woiks07:41
miles!taskel07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about taskel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:41
francismiles: thansk, i'll try !07:41
whizadree!ati07:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:41
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GeekosaurI wish I did, but I am unable to mix with the crowd very much - I am disabled and in a wheelchair.07:42
francisi've installed the nvidia (not nv) driver from the Kubuntu distribution07:42
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animimotussomethings to cut a flac with his cue to obtain ogg files in a command line? :)07:42
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vzduch?07:43
endlevelhello everyone07:43
morphinexhey, does that kubuntu bot have a link to a compiz or beryl howto?07:44
morphinexfor feisty07:44
vzduch!compiz | morphinex07:44
ubotumorphinex: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:44
morphinexsweet, thanks07:44
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ksivajihow do i make sure apache is configured in my system ?07:45
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cloakable!compitx-fusion07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compitx-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:46
vzduchcloakable: the bot doesn't speak catal or euskara :D07:47
ksivajihow do i make sure that  apache is configured in my system ?07:47
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anthronauthow come, that adept lists other installed programs on my system than synaptics?07:48
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Ange|ushello07:50
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pag!hi | Ange|us07:50
ubotuAnge|us: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:50
Ange|usi installed netscape navigator on kubuntu, its just a file .tar.gz extracted in /opt and ran it, but some buttons aint working like checking if navigator is the default browser and thinks like that, any help please? :P07:51
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RobNyc-workKubuntu has kde 3.5.6 or 3.5.7 ?07:53
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pagRobNyc-work, feisty has 3.5.6 as default, and 3.5.7 can be installed07:53
francismiles: thanks, it works!!07:54
RobNyc-workpag, how can 3.5.7 be installed :)07:54
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pagRobNyc-work, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php07:54
RobNyc-workpag, ty07:55
RobNyc-workhow did you find that link07:55
pagRobNyc-work, this time or originally?07:55
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maggioranasera07:56
pagRobNyc-work, originally it was linked to kubuntu related channels, and this time I already knew where to seek07:56
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blackthorne_hola07:57
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st1bof07:58
RobNyc-workpag, anytime07:58
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rajdhanibyeee07:59
igorIs there anybody there ?07:59
pag!ask | igor07:59
ubotuigor: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:59
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Ace2016Hi all08:00
Ace2016how do you save alias commands?08:00
pagAce2016, use .bash_aliases08:00
pagAce2016, you have to enable it through .bashrc though08:00
Ace2016its empty08:00
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Ace2016what format do i use for saving?08:01
Sheazschewhats the name of the video codec package for kde?08:01
pagAce2016, which are the options?08:01
Ace2016pag: do i put alias fusion-icon=fusion in there?08:01
pagSheazsche, libxine-extracodecs  ?08:01
pagAce2016, gimmi a sec, I'll pastebin mine, so you can take example08:02
Ace2016thanks08:02
pagAce2016, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32821/08:02
klircalguem fim d tc?08:02
klircalguem fim d tc?08:02
klircalguem fim d tc?08:02
klircalguem fim d tc?08:02
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pagklirc, please stop08:03
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Ace2016what does that mean?08:03
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Ace2016no08:03
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animimotuserf08:04
animimotussomethings to cut a flac with his cue to obtain ogg files in a command line? :)08:04
vzduchanimimotus: ?08:04
igorxvidtune doesn't seem to save my screen settings. On booting KDE again, old wrong settings are retained. What can I do about that ?08:04
animimotusI search somethings like that http://freeware.filehungry.com/english/product/windows_software/audio_tools/mp3_tools/cue_splitter08:05
kaminixHow do I wget from this site: http://massuki.com/je/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=53 ? When I wget one of the files it gives me an index.html, works with firefox though.08:05
animimotusa "cue splitter" for linux ?08:05
RobNyc-workpag, so why wasnt kde 3.5.7 released officially or be available as updates :)08:05
Ange|usexport: 41: Illegal option -n08:05
Ange|uswha is this?08:05
Ange|us:o08:05
animimotusvzduch: you see ?08:06
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pagRobNyc-work, it wasn't released in time to be officially included, and since it's not a security update it couldn't be put as normal update08:06
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RobNyc-workoh08:07
pagAnge|us, that could mean pretty many things - what are you trying to do?08:07
Ange|usim trying to "./netscape-installer08:07
vzduchanimimotus: never heard of such software, not even this program08:07
Ange|us"08:07
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pagAnge|us, open that file with any editor - does the first line say #!/bin/sh ?08:08
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Ange|usyes pag08:09
pagAnge|us, change it to #!/bin/bash and it should work better08:09
pagAnge|us, and may I ask why are you installing netscape - why not use Konqueror or Firefox?08:10
Ange|usbecause08:11
Ange|usnetscape is nicer08:11
Ange|us:p08:11
Ange|usi like cool stuff08:11
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pagAce2016, got aliases to work?08:12
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Ace2016pag: do i have to logout and log back in?08:13
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pagAce2016, you have to enable that file in .bashrc and restart shell (restarting konsole is enough)08:14
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mileshow do you unmount a samba share? "unmount [share] "??\08:14
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Ace2016pag: how do i enable it?08:15
hangthedjmile: umount /path/to/share08:15
pagAce2016, unvomment lines 50-52  (lines were taken from my .bashrc, and I'm not sure if you have the same )08:15
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paguncomment that is (meaning: remove #'s from beginning of the line)08:16
buck_i am on the trash windows campaign commitiee08:16
buck_i am teasing08:17
buck_but who needs windows when you have Linux08:17
anthronautbuck_ my mother for example08:17
pagbuck_, gamers?08:17
vgegamers indeed08:17
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buck_well ... if the game is good UT .. than they will make it on all platforms08:17
buck_if the games sux .. which is mostly the case08:18
buck_they dont think of other platforms08:18
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anthronauti wouldn't recommend linux to just anyone08:18
buck_That is why DOOM 3 / UT / STEAM / can all cross08:18
stdinit's not the fault of the operating system that the manufacturers don't support it08:18
buck_because they are good games and they want to milk the most money out of the game08:19
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vgewell, kubuntu is a good effort to push the linux users forward08:19
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buck_and if us linux users put our foot down and continue to go to forums of games we would like to see on lionux i am sure the DEVS would kindly make a linux version08:20
stdindevs want to, producers don't08:20
buck_its weird how your GOTY editions have a linux version of the game08:20
buck_UT one of the biggest games08:20
buck_of the century08:21
buck_will have a linux08:21
buck_version08:21
stdinthey say it would cost too much, not enough market share. but there is not market share because there are no games :[08:21
vzduch!enter | buck_08:21
ubotubuck_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:21
buck_oh .. okay .. sorry08:21
buck_i will use periods.. than08:21
pantelAny experience with ASUS IPILP-LC / P5LP-LE motherboard? that is one of the new HP Pavilion A6100y desktop.08:22
vgebuck_: iw never seen UT as a bringer of anything new to the fps genre08:22
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jhutchins           !enter | buck08:23
ubotubuck: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:23
vzduchpantel: ah, stop talking 'bout HP Pavilion.. I could've had one on Saturday for <100 if I had been faster w/ checking my mails..08:23
vzduch:(08:23
vgevzduch: i only get penis enlargement offers :/08:23
buck_well here is the facts that i am seeing .. i see great games UT / Quake / Doom / Source can run on linux .. if people (linux users ) would post on the forums there could bring change. forget EA thier games are trash but real DEVS create for linux08:24
pantelvzduch: do you know if I'll be able to install and run Kubuntu on it without problems?08:24
vzduchvge: I had won a 200 voucher for a new auctioning platform, and they had one for that price..08:24
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whizadreeif you cant get into x and you want to configure fglrx manually how is it done?08:25
ksivajivge hi08:25
vzduchwhizadree: if you know what you're doing you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:26
vgebuck_: actually if you would get EA, that would make an difference08:26
vgeksivaji: hi hi08:26
buck_yeah .. i know .. EA is huge . i think they will eventually just create for consoles eventually08:26
vgeyup, pc is daying anyway as a game platform08:27
whizadreevzduch: im going thru https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  ive reched Install from ati.com (latest version of drivers) .... and completed the installation ,, but what happens if you havent installed Kubuntu yet?08:27
buck_and to think that PC is the supperior platform08:27
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vzduchwhizadree: ?  how can you install ATI drivers w/o an OS to run on?08:28
jhutchinswhizadree: What are you running?08:28
buck_i think our world will be the MMO's and that will all change soon too with the USB support that consoles have08:28
whizadreevzduch: ive built the packages , all seems good08:28
jhutchinswhizadree: What did you build them on?08:28
whizadreeive got into the live cd08:28
whizadreebut not installed08:28
whizadreejust running the os fro CD but no X08:28
buck_and my whole thing is soon even windows wont have the gaming support and than we can all USE LINUX woo hoo08:28
jhutchinswhizadree: Where did you store the built packages/08:29
jhutchins?08:29
jhutchinswhizadree: ?08:29
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buck_well its always a pleasure to boast about Linux .. i am a newb and i thourouly enjoy it ... I enjoy it so much that I am playing oldergames on it and cancelling my xboxlive account. woot.08:30
whizadreethe deb file ended up at /usr/src/fglrx-kernel........deb08:30
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jhutchinswhizadree: Well, unfortunately, your filesystem is all in RAM, so you're going to have to copy that deb file to either a hard disk or to some external medium, otherwise it vanishes when you reboot.08:31
whizadreewell i need to do this just to install Kub08:32
whizadreethen i can hopefully get into the visual part of the install08:32
jhutchinswhizadree: you may want to rebuild it anyway, after you install you will probably update your kernel, you'll need to update the drivers to match.08:32
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pagwhizadree, why don't you install from alternate disk?08:32
whizadreehmmm08:33
sam_Hey can anyone tell me where to get MkFS SOURCE CODE?08:33
whizadreepag,  you think that might work?08:33
jhutchinswhizadree: The good news is that you've practiced building them, and it should be easy on the installed system.08:33
jhutchinswhizadree: Were you having trouble with the standard install?08:33
whizadreejhutchins, yup thats correct08:34
pagwhizadree, it will install - it probably won't repair your X, but atleast then you'll have a valid system, in which your modifications won't dissappear after reboot08:34
jhutchinswhizadree: yeah, try the alt CD, do a text install, then do the nvidia stuff.08:34
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sam_Hey can anyone tell me where to get MkFS SOURCE CODE?08:34
whizadreeits on a dell 9400 - and its got a x1400 ati mobility08:34
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sam_Hey can anyone tell me where to get MkFS SOURCE CODE?08:36
Kr4t05sam_: If you have the right repositorys, you can use 'sudo apt-get source <package>'08:36
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pagKr4t05, no need for sudo in that command08:37
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sam_which package has mkfs code?08:38
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whizadreeok download the alternate cd08:38
whizadree-ing08:38
pagsam_, util-linux probably08:39
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jhutchins!search mkfs08:40
ubotuFound: disks, mount-#kubuntu08:40
jhutchins!info mkfs08:40
ubotuPackage mkfs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:40
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Ace2016yup its in util-linux08:41
sam_thanks ppl08:42
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arundid anyone here know that microsoft was selling ubuntu cds on their website?08:43
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arunand called ubuntu an 'excellent alternative to windows'08:43
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jhutchinssam_: mkfs comes from util-linux08:44
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jhutchinssam_: The various modules come from dosfstools. e2fsprogs. jfsutils, etc.08:45
jhutchinsarun: Did anyone here think to check snopes?08:45
arunjhutchins: ?08:45
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jhutchinsarun: Do you have a link to the page where they offer it?08:47
arunjhutchins: microsoft seems to have realised their error and have removed the page, but i have a screenshot here: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=200706220923534608:48
sam_hey is mke2fs in linux-utils?08:49
jhutchinsarun: Windows Marketplace isn't stuff Microsoft is selling.  It's stuff being offered for sale on their we pages.08:49
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jhutchinssam_: No, it's in e2fsprogs.08:49
jhutchinssam_: mkfs is just a wrapper that calls the system-specific tool.08:50
arunjhutchins: ah, still thought it was weird/funny though08:50
sam_thanks man08:50
jhutchinsIt's like if I put an add for something on craigslist, craigslist isn't selling it.08:50
jhutchinsMicrosoft did take that down though.08:51
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anthronautCan it happen, that Kubuntu suddenly doesn't recognize the password at the login screen?08:54
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filingclerkhey09:01
vellehi. I have just downloaded sun java from the official site, and unpacked it. I am new too linux and this is the first application that I have to "place somewhere" myself. I dont know where in the file hierarchy it belongs.09:01
velleI.e. if this was Windows, I would put it in "c:/program files"09:02
llutzvelle: it's not part of distro, so /usr/local or /opt would be an idea09:02
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Ace2016Hi all09:03
vellellutz, thanks09:03
llutzvelle: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html09:03
Ace2016where did pag go?09:04
Ace2016anyway09:04
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Ace2016i can run a command in konsole but not in Alt+F2, its an alias command, how do i make it run in alt+f2?09:04
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ubuntuhello09:08
ubuntuFrench M09:08
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intelikey!fr09:09
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:09
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velleAnother question: I am using the gnu locate tool with a regular expression. I would like to find all files that have the exact name "java" (im hoping to find the executables). But it seems that locate's database only stores full paths. So I need to tell locate that i am only interested in the paths that ends on "java"09:10
Ace2016Hi all09:11
pajosephshi all. does anyone know how to configure realplayer so that when i click on a radio stream on the internet it start realplayer and as default and not mplayer piugin?09:11
vellee.g. (this does not work) "locate -r 'java\n'", or somehow "locate -r 'java<endofpath>'"09:11
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intelikeyvelle find /usr/ -iname *java* -type f09:12
intelikeyvelle and regex would be 'java$'  wouldn't it ?09:13
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llutzlocate -r 'java$' works, but shows all file.java too (off course)09:13
intelikeyany way in that execrise of futility   ls -l /etc/alternatives/j*09:14
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Ace2016locate -r /java$09:14
velleintelikey: the correct regexp is "/java$". Thanks :)09:14
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velleAce2016: thanks09:14
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llutzAce2016: easier: "which java"09:14
llutzif it is in your $PATH09:15
Ace2016llutz: not if its a text file called java09:15
intelikeyAce2016 text file you mean script ?09:15
vellellutz: It was not in my path, that was the prob. But everything is good now.09:16
intelikeywhich finds scripts in the users path     cat `which which`09:16
Ace2016no just a text file09:16
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intelikeyok yeah09:16
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Ace2016any text file, could be a poem about java for all we know09:16
Ace2016anyone know why alias commands can't be run from alt+f2?09:17
intelikeyyeah but he did say "(im hoping to find the executables)"09:17
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intelikeyAce2016 yeah you can't export to a parent  and alt+f2 probably doesn't inheiret any bash settings09:18
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intelikeyit's not a login shell09:19
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intelikeythat pretty much precludes 'alias' going both ways...09:20
vzduchvelle, nolle, malle..09:22
vzduch:D09:22
Ace2016intelikey: yea thats what i was told in #kde,09:22
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intelikeyoh    well next time tell me it's just a poll so i can ignore it   ;/09:23
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vellevzduch: ?09:23
vzduchvelle: you haven't had Latin at school, have you?09:23
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vellevzduch: no :)09:24
intelikeyvellus nollus mallus09:25
vzduchintelikey: not -us09:25
vzduchthese are verbs09:25
intelikeybut mine are names09:25
intelikey:)09:25
vzducho009:25
vzduchvelle == want, nolle == not want, malle == rather want09:26
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intelikeywanter content desirious09:27
vellevzduch: oki, I will try to remember that :)09:27
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BluesKajinstalled both rar and unrar , yet i get ERROR: Unknown option: ... strange :(09:32
intelikeyQ  what will happen is i run  :(){ sudo ping 127.0.0.1 & : ; } ; :                   ???09:34
BluesKajman rar and unrar both give the expected output09:34
intelikeyA   you DoS your self.09:34
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cloakable:)09:36
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JunoIs there a way to play windows games in linux?09:39
Junobecause I'd hate to have to dualboot just for games09:39
edsonsomebody uses fonts X11 for aterm, xterm, Eterm? example for fonts: lime, shine, edges.09:40
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flianezhi09:43
trekdanne!hi | flianez09:43
ubotuflianez: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:43
intelikeyJuno depends on the game    "cedega" ?09:43
edsonsomebody uses fonts X11 for aterm, xterm, Eterm? example for fonts: lime, shine, edges.09:43
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intelikey!wine | Juno09:43
ubotuJuno: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:43
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flianez?09:44
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intelikey! i09:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:45
cloakableXD09:45
intelikey! !09:46
intelikeyhah.09:46
Ace2016i finally finished my guide09:46
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edsonsomebody uses fonts X11 for aterm, xterm, Eterm? example for fonts: lime, shine, edges.09:49
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Ace2016edson: are you trying to edit the fonts in xterm?09:51
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boinaverde1996hi there09:53
Ace2016edson: there is a good guide here http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/10/configuring-xterm-in-linux.htmlkon09:53
Ace2016Biovore: hi09:53
boinaverde1996need help with external HD09:53
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colkhishow do I run X session on remote machine?09:53
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pyrargentboinaverde1996: what seems to be the problem?09:53
boinaverde1996have the error " hallo.....1000"09:54
boinaverde1996that happens only in Kubuntu ( with konqueror )09:54
boinaverde1996Gnome ( nautilus ) runs OK09:54
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boinaverde1996the problem is that I cannot access my external HD09:54
Assidheya09:54
boinaverde1996any clue?09:55
pyrargentboinaverde1996: is " hallo.....1000" verbatim?09:55
Ace2016so you can't open /media/ whatever?09:55
noaxess_kubuntuneed i restart my machine, if i extend my hd with lvextend? lvm command09:55
boinaverde1996correct cannot open my external HD09:55
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boinaverde1996the rest run good .... cars reads ... an so on09:56
boinaverde1996cards09:56
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Assiderr.. anyone know how to normalize the audio a bit .. i mean the max audio output im getting in kubuntu only feels like 70% of what i used to do in win3209:56
pyrargentboinaverde1996: that is no error message I have ever seen, even google doesn't pick it up09:56
boinaverde1996I have googled it alot and found that is a bug in Konqueror09:57
intelikeyAssid konsole    alsamixer09:57
Ace2016ask in #kde they know a lot about that stuff09:57
pyrargentboinaverde1996: "hallo" is a variable in a few source files I've dug up, but has nothing to do with disks09:57
boinaverde1996wait will copy past the error09:57
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intelikeyAssid pcm and master09:57
boinaverde1996this is the error : " hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"09:57
intelikeyand what fs is on the disk ?09:58
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noaxess_kubuntu!lvm09:58
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO09:58
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boinaverde1996it works if I go rigth click and "open file" because opens with nautilus09:58
pyrargentboinaverde1996: could always install nautilus instead of konqueror09:58
intelikeyand what fs is on the disk ?09:59
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boinaverde1996the disk is NTFS09:59
boinaverde1996nautilus in KDE?09:59
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intelikeypyrargent you mean use ?   if you remove konq you remove kde09:59
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Ace2016don't you get a popup asking what to do when the device is plugged in?10:00
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pyrargentintelikey: well yeah10:05
pyrargenti DESPISE the reccomendation of adding stuff to fstab, because it's a removable disk10:05
pyrargentbut it looks like the only possibility until someone gets policy kit for kde10:05
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boinaverde1996I have googled it alot and found that is a bug in Konqueror10:05
intelikeyboinaverde1996 did you check the infonode on that ?      i'm not sure it will help...10:05
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intelikey!ntfs | boinaverde199610:05
boinaverde1996yes I got it ... then I press open and nothing happens10:05
ubotuboinaverde1996: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:05
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boinaverde1996it seams that is a bug in konqueror, I can live with it no problem , I'm using rigth click , open folder, then Nautilis is comming them works10:05
milesi have a question about apt-get10:05
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boinaverde1996I my box I have only Linux10:05
boinaverde1996is a PC10:05
kanpachi_hello i just installed kde-core, and i can't change my display settings, what do i have to install to change it? i don't see it on the prephials list10:05
mileswhen you remove something, and some library isnt needed anymore, what do you type through apt-get to remove the unneccessary libraries?10:05
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Ace2016boinaverde1996: i think you should show intelikey your /etc/fstab10:05
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intelikeyoh wait,   i think i know what's up.  you have both  ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed ?10:05
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nedwwhat does kubuntu lack compared to ubuntu?10:12
vzduchnedw: nothing10:12
nedwi like gnome better but i don't want to miss out on any features10:12
Ace2016ubuntu lacks a lot of features10:12
nedwsweet!10:12
boinaverde1996I would but guys I'm Newbie ..... how can I do that?10:12
nedw*i like kde better ;)10:15
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nedwmwahaha10:15
waylandbill_nedw: I don't know that it lacks anything. It's just using different apps and libs to do the job in a different fashion10:15
intelikeyboinaver   i think i know what's up.  you have both  ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed ?10:15
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nedwsweet10:15
boinaverde1996yes I have both desktop installed10:15
nedwi'm going to use it now :)10:15
boinaverde1996ubuntu and Kubuntu10:15
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nedwi used to but i don't like mixing ubuntu and kubuntu10:15
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vgeubuntu is more user friendly but lacks features imho10:15
intelikeythere is the problem.    the defaults are confused.10:15
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nedwalright, you might see me later in kde, i'll be back :)10:15
boinaverde1996in ubuntu the external HD runs good10:15
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boinaverde1996the problem is in KDE10:15
Assiderr you guys ever connected your nokia phones to kubuntu ?10:15
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intelikeyno body listens to me.   i tell people and tell them not to advise installing   more than one *buntu-desktop meta package because some defaults don't get reset and you have things looking for nautilus and something wanting amarok and    well they just get confused    advise installing  gnome or kde or what ever   not the *-desktop   it hoses things.10:21
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boinaverde1996intelikey in this case I showld have only one destop?10:21
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intelikeyonly one *buntu-desktop  meta package.     yes.10:21
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boinaverde1996thx a lot for the help10:21
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intelikeyas many desktops environments as you want  just not more than one *buntu-desktop10:21
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intelikeyaren't net splits fun....10:23
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intelikeywarning collision eminant10:23
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ardchoilleintelikey: Erm.. no10:23
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ubuntu__hello10:23
buck_hello10:23
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Scott_KI am having a hard time getting java to run on...any suggestions?10:23
buck_bot what up10:23
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buck_are you 64 bit10:23
buck_?10:23
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buck_scott k .. are you 64 bit10:23
buck_there are women who use linux? awesome10:23
ubuntu__what10:23
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buck_well scott .. jsut wanted to tell you .. that i couldnt get the latest version of java to work .. but i use 5.1 or 5.0.210:23
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MaxdamantusTry blackdown.10:23
buck_and follow the instructions on how to install java10:23
MaxdamantusIt's faster than Sun.10:23
MaxdamantusAnd OpenSource.10:23
buck_think i should switch max10:23
Scott_Kok...java 6.0 does not work on a 32 bit machine?10:23
Maxdamantusbuck_, yea, but keep Sun Java too.10:23
MaxdamantusSome things don't work in Blackdown.10:23
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clefiaI just ran an update and upgrade with synaptic package manager. the updater quoted about 200mb of space needed.10:23
buck_..cool i will install blacdown .. thanks again for the tips .. i just love this IRC channel and my new linux install10:23
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Scott_Kuse adept to install it?10:23
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MaxdamantusI have Blackdown set as my default, but a symbolic link to Sun Java wiht sjava10:23
clefiaafter the update i am left with 500mb less, i'm guessing the downloaded update files are still on my hard disk. where can i find and delete them?10:23
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Maxdamantusclefia, look in /var/cache/apt*10:23
buck_i can apt-get install blackdown10:23
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Maxdamantus/var/cache/apt/archives/10:23
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sam_plz can some one let me know ,what is the purpose of a MAKEFILE?10:23
Vimana_hey, the skydome image must be square?10:23
Scott_Kwhat command would I use to install blackdown in a window with a command line?10:23
buck_MAKEFILE builds the program10:23
sam_<buck_>what r the contents of a make file??10:23
Ace2016changes from one program to another10:24
clefiaaxdamantus: there are over 500mb of .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives if it safe to delete everything in there?10:24
Ace2016why delete them?10:24
Maxdamantusclefia, yes.10:25
MaxdamantusThey stay there incase you want to reinstall them.10:25
MaxdamantusSaves bandwidth.10:25
erickahow can i change the chanel?10:25
MaxdamantusBut if you want to reinstall something that's there, it needs to be downloaded again.10:25
MaxdamantusI just tar.bzip2 them.10:25
vgeericka: /j #channelname10:25
sam_what r the generally the contents of a make file??10:25
Ace2016sudo apt-get clean ?10:25
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vgeericka: you can be in multiple channels at once10:26
clefiaMaxdamantus: okay, thank you. I need to delete them because I'm using a 3gb hard disk and I'm out of free space10:26
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MaxdamantusLol.10:28
buck_<sam> i just know that a makefile is how the kernal knows how to build the program as far as its content GOOGLE10:28
Ace2016sam_: http://mrbook.org/tutorials/make/10:28
Assidgod.. getting the whole nokia phone thing to work is  a pain10:28
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jhutchinsRe: Automatix: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html10:28
MaxdamantusBye.10:28
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jhutchinsAssid: What, push numbers, push "Talk", speak into soapbar?10:28
vzduchbuck_: the kernel doesn't know how to build programs.. the C compiler knows ;)10:28
buck_yeah10:28
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buck_but the make is what tells how to build to the kerna;10:28
erickaok, thnx!10:28
buck_from what i understand10:28
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buck_is a text file read by Make programs that describes the building of targets. A Makefile contains source-level dependencies and build-order dependencies. As part of its Make Support feature, SNiFF+ generates Make Support Files that contain both kinds dependency information.10:28
jhutchinsActually, it's make/automake that reads the contents of the make file and does what that says to do.10:28
sam_thanks a lot man!!!10:28
buck_yeah .. theres the definition10:28
Assidjhutchins: i wanna synch my phone :(10:28
Ace2016all i did was google example makefule10:28
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Ace2016makefile*10:28
buck_yeah ..10:28
drewhgreetings.10:28
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jhutchinsAssid: Have a look at the kpilot stuff.  THere's a specif nokia component for korganizer10:29
buck_i DEFINE: makefile10:29
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drewhwhen I switch a window w/ alt-tab it shows the outline of the window, but not the contents...how do I get it to show the window w/ alt-tab?10:29
maverick_Assid: Why don't you use Kmobiletools10:29
jhutchinsHrm.  Or there used to be.10:29
buck_I try not to ask questions in here until i have googled my head off10:29
buck_for instance how to get onboard midi to work10:30
buck_im still trying to figure this one out10:30
jhutchins!midi | buck_10:30
ubotubuck_: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo10:30
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maverick_!kmobiletools10:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:31
buck_ubotu is an awesome bot10:31
Assidmaverick_: trying to understand how the hell do i get the device10:31
jhutchinsAssid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=199882210:31
drewhanyone?10:31
erickay10:31
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jhutchinsdrewh: I presume this is in beryl or compiz?10:32
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erickahey you all! where are you from?10:32
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buck_okay .. i will try this .. however i think i have tried at some point. but these instructions dont look familiar.. so i will do it10:32
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drewhjhutchins: not sure?  it's kde as far as I know.10:32
erickaand why all are talking about linux?10:32
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maverick_Assid: i don't really understand your problem, but if you're connecting using bluetooth..then things should be pretty easy with this tool10:32
Assidmaverick_: not using bluetooth.. cable10:33
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breatherscreaminhow do i register a nickname?10:34
orion4hello10:34
breatherscreaminhi10:34
buck_!makefile10:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about makefile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:34
orion4O_O10:34
orion4this is kubuntu channel10:34
Assidmaverick_: i know it made a device for this.. i dont know what it is it10:34
buck_!mandrake10:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mandrake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:34
jhutchinsbreatherscreamin: /msg nickserv register <password>10:34
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jhutchinsbreatherscreamin: Best to do from a server message window.10:35
jhutchins!build | buck10:35
Assidokay i got it as /dev/ttyACM0 from wammu10:35
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ubotubuck: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:35
Assidkmobiletools really should have a search feature that works10:35
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jhutchinsAssid: Try grep.  What are you searching for?10:36
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buck_question .. has anyone been able to get thier usb midi keyboard to work?10:37
Assidjhutchins: searching which device is my mobile device.. i had to go to wammu and get it as /dev/ttyACM010:38
maverick_Assid: i dont really remeber the command..but it's a command that displays the log of your devices...so for example if u're using usb cable and u've just plugged it in you can detect that by this command and then you can grep...i just don't remeber the command10:38
maverick_sorry10:38
ardchoillelsusb ?10:38
drewhanyone know how to get fiesty to show the contents of a window when alt-tab?10:38
orion4sudo apt-get install wine-doors10:38
drewhit shows the border, not the content10:38
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maverick_Assid: and it tells you the assigned device10:38
orion4sudo apt-get install wine-doors10:38
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buck_dri10:38
ardchoilledrewh: I believe that would be the job of the window manager (kwin in kubuntu) and I don't think kwin has that capability.10:40
maverick_ardchoille: naaah!! another one10:40
ardchoilledrewh: The good news is that you can switch window managers in kde10:40
ardchoillemaverick_: ?10:40
erickaeeee10:40
erickapelenme!!10:40
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drewhardchoille: kinda what I was coming to.  First time I've instlaled kubuntu...always been debian/enlightenment :)10:40
Assidlsusb doesnt show which device is it mapped to10:40
drewhThanks for the time!  It's appreciated.10:40
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jhutchinsdrewh: I'm on feisty, I get a window list with icons when I hit Alt-Tab.10:41
ardchoilledrewh: If you don't really need a full desktop, look into fluxbox, or window maker, or even xfce.10:41
ardchoilledrewh: I've seen people use the enlightenment window manager inside kde10:43
maverick_Assid: FOUND IT! dmesg10:43
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ardchoillejhutchins: Yes, but he wants the windows to show the full content when switching with alt-tab, not just the window border10:43
breatherscreaminare there any yankee anything in kUBUNTU?10:43
Hail_Spacecakewhere is the KDE option that controls emptying the trash?10:43
milesls10:43
Assidmaverick_: doesnt say it got mapped to /dev/ttyACM010:43
Assidoh wait .. i think it does10:43
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breatherscreaminmicrsoft is a yankee maid program10:43
breatherscreaminmaek10:43
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mileslol@breatherscreamin10:43
maverick_Assid: ?10:43
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Assidmaverick_: i have it connected to kmobiletools.. but it doesnt get my sms list or contact list10:47
Maxdamantusbreatherscreamin, yes.10:47
breatherscreaminoh good what can i learn from kUBUNTU?10:47
Maxdamantusbreatherscreamin, the art of Linux.10:47
breatherscreamintheres no art in linux10:47
MaxdamantusI said of.10:47
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MaxdamantusNot in.10:47
MaxdamantusAnd there is art in Linux.10:47
Maxdamantus!gump10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gump - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
Maxdamantus!gimp10:47
ubotugimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.10:47
maverick_Assid: But Kmobile identifies it?10:47
breatherscreaminfreyt10:47
venikWhy do some programs spontaneously disapper and have to be reinstalled?10:47
breatherscreamingreyt10:47
venikI was using Basket, and it simply evaporated10:47
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Assidyeah if i use /dev/ttyACM0 manually as a device.. it connects.. shows me battery and signal10:47
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Assidlooks wrong info tho10:47
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breatherscreamini want to use linux to help me gain money to fix my teeth10:47
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maverick_Assid: god...i thought this problem was solved..i had a similar problem it used to start gathering my SMS and as it starts displaying the list it crashes...10:47
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drewhlater!10:47
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breatherscreaminin 3d, are there any neat paclkages for kUBUNTU to continue making 3d cause my MICROSOFT products all die10:47
ardchoillebreatherscreamin: I have a pair of plyers, does that help?10:47
maverick_Assid: Sorry , i guess you'll have to walk this walk alone..i have no idea..maybe googling would help10:47
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Assidmaverick_: you managed to get anything to work wiht your phone?10:47
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maverick_Assid: yeah, i managed to download pics...and contact list10:47
Assidmaverick_: what did you use10:47
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maverick_Kmobile tools10:47
maverick_there's another app10:47
Assidwammu ?10:47
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ubuntu____what else can i use other than kUNBUNTU?10:47
maverick_Assid: no, i don't remeber it...Oh! i have short term memory loss :D..i will search it for you now..hold on10:47
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jhutchinsI think that so much just works automatically in modern Linux distributions that people get unreasonably frustrated when they have to actually get under the hood to enable something.10:48
Hail_Spacecakewhere is the KDE option that controls emptying the trash?10:48
andreahallo! somebody knows how to install o2micro card reader driver for kubuntu?10:48
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hufi#kubuntu-de10:48
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screamingbreatheis there anything i could use other than kubuntu to make 3d with?10:48
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hufi#ubuntu-de10:48
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ardchoilleandrea: All the card readers I have seen just plug it in.. and when the card itself is inserted, kde will treat it as a mass storage device and ask you what you want to do when it's inserted.10:49
ardchoilleandrea: You may not need the driver at all.10:49
Assidmaverick_: kandy ?10:49
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breatherscreaminim not comp;letely happy with kubuntu for 3d10:50
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jhutchinsandrea: This might help:10:50
jhutchinshttp://tuxmobil.org/smart_linux.html10:50
breatherscreaminis there any ease of use 3d software for kUBUNTU?10:51
andreayes, it's so for everything, but except mine card reader... mine is integrated, not usb! i'm using a laptop... however thanks jhutchins10:51
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jhutchinsandrea: Yeah, usbfs should recognize this and support it as a USB storage device.10:51
jhutchinsandrea: Problems?10:51
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breatherscreamini want to post a wiki page on the civil war10:52
sam_how to enable CONFIG_MODVERSIONS in the kernel?10:52
breatherscreaminor put it into kubuntu10:52
breatherscreaminfine no ones gonna feel sorry for my dying kubuntu machines se eya later10:56
stdinsam_: it already is10:56
sam_ya i know it..ok then how to disable CONFIG_MODVERSIONS in the kernel?10:56
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stdinsam_: recompile it10:56
andreajhutchins- yeah, i insert a ms but nothing appears10:56
jhutchinsandrea: Do you have pcscd installed?10:56
sam_can i change it in the make menuconfig file10:56
sam_can i change it in the make menuconfig file?10:56
jhutchinsandrea: if not sudo aptitude install pcscd10:56
stdinsam_: you install the kernel source, then redo you can edit the .config file if that's what you want10:56
maverick_Assid: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=131797710:56
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stdinsam_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild10:56
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andreajhutchins - no, i don't! ok! i'll try in a few minutes10:56
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jhutchinsandrea: See also the comments on the smartcard reader here: http://www.ailis.de/~k/archives/14-Linux-on-Dell-Latitude-D820.html10:56
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sam_<stdin>ok i got u..but cant cant it be done without kernel recompilation?10:56
stdinsam_: no it can't10:56
maverick_Assid: it's not the same one i used before but it's said that this one supports Lates nokia phones (i.e: N-series)10:56
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stdinsam_: why would you need to disable that?10:57
sam_<stdin>thanks a lot man10:57
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andreaafter i have installed pcscd, what do i do?11:00
andreafor jhutichins11:00
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Assidmaverick_: hrmm okay will play with it11:05
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Assidmaverick_: doesnt work11:05
Assidbah screw it .. i will check it out another time11:05
Assidstarting to feel sleepy11:05
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BluesKajhmm, trying to convert flac to wav with soundkonverter and end up with netscape windows media player plugin file ...what gives ?11:07
Assidoh crap.. i shoulda fixed this error i had with mysql11:07
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Assiderr,.,. anyone know how do i get the putty authentication to work with regular ssh ?11:07
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MaxdamantusAssid, PuTTy is for Windows..11:07
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andre_plhas kde 4 b1 made it into feisty backports yet?11:07
stdinAssid: there should be some tool in putty to convert it, tho I don't know why you'd need putty...11:08
Maxdamantus^^11:08
stdinandre_pl: yes, it's pretty much all there now11:08
Assidstdin: i just came from windows.. i have the authentication key files..11:08
Assidhow do i make it work now that im on linux11:08
MaxdamantusMost Linux distros (Including the Ubuntu family) have SSH.11:08
MaxdamantusAssid, the keys are stored in the registry.11:08
andre_plsweet11:08
MaxdamantusAnd why do you need them anyway?11:11
Assidmy remote boxes are working on key authentication11:11
Assidso i need key files to work.. now .. how do i setup authorized keys11:11
Assidso i can connect to my remote boxes11:11
stdinAssid: try puttygen from the putty-tools package11:11
whizadreei think it was something like .authorizedkeys11:15
Maxdamantus...11:15
whizadreein ssh11:15
MaxdamantusI thought only the server broadcasted keys.11:15
whizadreenah you need a local key pair11:15
MaxdamantusAnd the authentication system is so that the client can recognise the server.11:15
AssidMaxdamantus:  no.. if thats hte case there would be no pair11:15
bipolarAssid: use the "-i" option with ssh.11:15
MaxdamantusAnd know when it's not connecting to the original one.11:15
stdinputty stores the SSH keys in a weird format, you need to convert them to the openssh format11:15
Maxdamantusstdin, it stores them in the registry aswell.11:15
Maxdamantus'Tis annoying11:15
Assidi think i have the openssh format as well11:15
bipolarAssid: if you have your ssh keys that the server wants, use something like "ssh - i /path/to/key user@server"11:15
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MaxdamantusI use PuTTy at school, to access my computer.. And all the settings are stored on the computer, not the flash driev.11:15
MaxdamantusBye.11:15
bipolarAssid: more details are in the ssh man page11:15
bipolarAssid: or, if you're more comfortable with putty, you can just install the linux version. it's in Ubuntu's repo11:15
Assidi need the id_dsa or id_dsa.pub ?11:15
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Assidbipolar: puttys broken there :(11:15
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MaxdamantusIt's a CLI.11:15
Assidi type something.. and when i clear.. it doesnt really clear11:15
bipolarVimana_: I agree11:15
sam_hey can any one tell me full path for kernel.h file?11:15
hsateraH.32311:15
hsateraanyone here uses ekiga???11:15
MaxdamantusI used the CLI Linux PuTTy before I realised Linux had an "ssh" there already,11:15
Vimana_lol11:15
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bipolarMaxdamantus: er... the putty in Ubuntu is the GUI11:15
stdinsam_: what are you trying to do?11:15
MaxdamantusOh, really?11:15
MaxdamantusYuck.11:15
Assidhrmm its ignoring my private key11:15
MaxdamantusLinux doesn't need GUI SSH clients.11:15
Vimana_i use ssh in windows...11:15
bipolarMaxdamantus: yes. I've got it installed now, just to look at it.11:15
MaxdamantusBye11:15
gOcOOli'm having problems installing vim-gtk on my kubuntu (edgy)11:15
gOcOOlcan someone please help?11:15
stdinMaxdamantus: Konsole IS a GUI ssh client :p11:15
bipolarAssid: have you tried using ssh -i ?11:15
Assidbipolar: yeah something is wrong tho11:15
Vimana_hey, if kde4 gets ported to win, do you think it can be used as a shell replacement?11:15
sam_are i am working on some college projects...and i am trying to load a module in akernel and have written a c prog..and hence want to include kernel.h11:15
Assid?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? ssh/athlonxp11:15
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Assidpermissions and stuff is messed u11:15
Assidup11:15
bipolarAssid: where is that file?11:15
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stdinVimana_: it won't replace the shell, but if you want a linux shell in windows look in to http://cygwin.org11:15
Assidin my homedir11:15
Assidin a dir in my homedir11:15
bonaldo2000anyone else in here experiencing random lock-ups with nvidia drivers? And getting some NVRM: xid errors in their logs?11:16
Level15stdin: no, i mean as a replacement for explorer11:16
Level15not just for running bash11:16
RobNycdamn kftpgrabber crashes more than i dont know who11:16
stdinLevel15: no, probably not explorer is pretty built in to the OS. but who knows...11:16
sam_<stdin>hey tell me the path for kernel.h file11:17
stdinsam_: you don't use the full path, you use <linux/kernel.h> or similar11:17
Level15stdin: i know there are other shells for windows besides explorer... i'd just like to know if kde could become one ;)11:17
sam_but its giving me an error11:17
Level15RobNyc: kftpgrabber?11:17
Level15RobNyc: FTP client?11:17
RobNycyes Level1511:18
Level15RobNyc: what's wrong with konqueror for that?11:18
RobNycbut im not certain on which file it crashes though but its been happening in various distros11:18
RobNycLevel15: i preferred a real ftp client thats all :)11:18
sam_hey i got it..its /usr/src/linux11:18
stdinLevel15: I don't know, ask the people developing it, in #kde or #kde-devel11:18
Level15i bet kftpgrabber uses kio_ftp which is what konq uses anyway...11:18
gOcOOli'm having problems installing vim-gtk on my kubuntu (edgy), can someone please help?11:18
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Assidbah.. im screwuing up my perms somewhere hold on11:19
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stdingOcOOl: it helps if you tell us what the problem is, we aren't psychic (at least most of us aren't)11:20
gOcOOlstdin:11:20
gOcOOlThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:20
gOcOOl  vim-gtk: Depends: vim-gui-common (= 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5) but 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5.1 is to be installed11:20
gOcOOl           Depends: vim-common (= 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5) but 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5.1 is to be installed11:20
gOcOOl           Depends: vim-runtime (= 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5) but 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5.1 is to be installed11:20
gOcOOlE: Broken packages11:20
Level15!paste11:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:22
Assidokay so.. whats the kde ssh app11:22
Level15Assid: konsole11:22
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stdinAssid: what app, konsole rules :)11:22
Assidhehe.. something where id ont have to choose the file from cli11:22
gOcOOlstdin: i have all the above mentioned packages installed, i'm not sure what the problem is.11:22
stdinAssid: there is kdessh i guess11:22
Assidi guess i could shell script it11:22
bipolarAssid: Konsole is just a console window, ssh is the app you want to run from the console11:22
Level15Assid: which file? sorry, got late to the conversation11:22
stdinAssid: konsole has sessions, you make a session for each ssh account :)11:22
gOcOOlstdin: and i'm just doing this - sudo apt-get install vim-gtk11:22
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Level15Assid: oh i see, keys...11:22
Assidyep11:22
stdingOcOOl: what version of kubuntu are you on?11:22
kanpachianyone knows any kde application that's like gnormalize?11:22
Level15Assid: well, konsole sessions as was already suggested, or simple bash aliases11:23
gOcOOlstdin: edgy (64 bit version), if that's what you mean.11:23
bipolarAssid: or just use the -i option. if you don't tell it what file to use, it defaults to ~/.ssh/id_rsa iirc11:23
Assiderr.. okay this is super funny11:23
bipolarAssid: check the man page for more info11:23
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Assidi have kdessh in /usr/bin .. BUT .. if i check with my user . i dont see it11:23
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vgeAssid: are u talking about gftp or similar?11:24
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vgenvm11:24
Assiderr. nvm11:24
Assidim gonna stick to konsole11:24
Assidjust make shel scripts to connect to the right server11:25
bipolarAssid: good choice :)11:25
Assidtoo irritating to keep track of the -i11:25
Assidnow if only i didnt waste time earlier and worked on the mysql server replication11:25
Level15Assid: that's why bash aliases and konsole sessions were suggested11:26
stdingOcOOl: make sure your package cache is up-to-date (sudo apt-get update) and try again11:26
gOcOOlstdin: did that twice already11:26
stdingOcOOl: report that as a bug then11:27
Assidwhat would bash aliases have to do with this?11:27
gOcOOlstdin: ok, thanks!11:27
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stdingOcOOl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+filebug11:27
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Assidthis is nice.. 15 hours.. my box is just lagging a wee bit.. but thats mostly thanks to beryl11:34
Level15Assid: you can make an alias that uses this key, another one that uses that key, and so on...11:34
Assidhrmm11:34
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Jhon36Hello!11:39
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Level15Assid: so what will you choose?11:39
Assidshell scripts :P11:39
Assidsimple shell scripts.. that i can control11:39
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Level15Assid: ok... but i think alias are easier, you know?11:39
Assidmight use them with aliases.. so i just pass the server name as a parameter to the script11:39
benpiccohi, i dont have acces to a link a made with ln -s11:39
Assidso will be a hybrid11:39
Level15Assid: between aliases and shell scripts, i'd recommend aliases11:39
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stdinbenpicco: elaborate please11:39
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Jhon36I am trying to install kubuntu 7.04 and get error message: Cant accses tty. Before that is it reads xfemode (err_mask=0x40).11:39
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benpiccowell, i made a link ln -s ~/somedir/foo.jpg /var/www/bar.jpg11:39
Assidnow i need a good ftp client.. and im good to go .. i think11:39
Assidoh well11:39
stdinAssid: umm, konqueror11:39
benpicco(well, had to do this as root)11:39
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Assidhehe.. i like the left side right side concept11:39
benpiccoand now i can't acces it as a normal user11:39
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vgegftp is ok imho11:39
stdinAssid: dolphin with split view :p11:39
Jhon36And there is also message that usb 5-7 device nott accepting address error -110.11:39
Level15vge: i try to avoid gtk based stuff as much as i can...11:39
Assidi acutally do have a license for flashfxp.. lets check wine for it11:39
stdinbenpicco: what happens when you try?11:39
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vgeLevel15: why?11:39
benpiccostdin: no acces11:39
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Level15vge: dunno... i'm just weird, i guess11:43
Jhon36can someone help?11:43
stdinbenpicco: is that from a file manager or apache (or another http server) ?11:43
benpiccohuh, now I get "unable to open image `webcam.jpeg': Too many levels of symbolic links"11:43
vgekdeftpgrabber is also avaiable, but it has failed me couple times11:43
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stdinbenpicco: make sure that you didn't accedently make a link that points to a link that point to the 1st link (read that a few times, it will make sense)11:43
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whizadreesounds like a round robin11:43
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Level15vge: konqueror is just one click away ;)11:43
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benpiccoohm yes, this was it, now it works11:43
stdinthought so :)11:43
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vgeLevel15: i use konqueror at work, but im also a man of 2 window layout :)11:43
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ardchoillestdin: What is the limit of linking to a link, to a link, etc?11:43
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stdindepends on the app, it would give up after a predetermined amount of links I should think11:43
ardchoilleYeah11:43
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stdinbut I'd think you could do a lot before that, maybe 10s maybe 100s11:43
Assiddolphin looks nice11:43
Assidhrmm11:43
ardchoille!info dolphin11:43
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB11:43
Assidwould be nice if wine supported flashfxp.. but i guess i gotta wait on that11:43
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stdinAssid: you know you can get konqueror to do split view ?11:43
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stdinie: left panel and right panel11:43
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Assidhrm11:43
Assidwhat about shortcuts to transfer11:43
diederikFirst try, just typing11:44
stdinselect Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V (copy & paste)11:44
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Assidhrmm.. nothing like CTRL T . transfer.. CTRL Q .. queue.. etc?11:44
stdinnot in konq (afaik)11:44
Assidhrmm k11:45
diederikNeed help, everything on my kubuntu feisty works except speakers11:45
Assidi;ll play around in the morning when my brains are working11:45
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atrocityi know this isn't a problem for ubuntu per-se11:45
vgepress the delivery button (del)?11:45
Assidhehe11:45
Assiddelivery11:45
Assidlol11:45
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atrocitybut when you're in the file-browser application, is there a way to make it auto-say skip when copying from a BAD DVD11:46
atrocityso i don't have to keep telling it to skip that file when it's corrupt?11:46
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Assidyou know.. so far.. my friends losing his brains everytime i tell him i can get my pc to do things better than a mac11:47
Assidi just wish beryl was a bit more co-operative in resource usages11:47
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Level15i don't find it that bad...11:48
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Assidhrmm does ati have issues as nvidia does?11:48
Level15i think ati has MORE issues than nvidia11:49
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stdinlots more, ATI spelt backwards is EVIL11:49
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mahi everybody11:50
Pupeno[OT]  what does it mean for a hotel room to be "ensuite"?11:50
Level15NFI11:51
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Level15[OT]  does anyone use an ergonomic keyboard? I am experiencing some wrist pain and was wondering if they are any good...11:52
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sfireLevel15: I love mine11:52
stdinyou do know there is on opptopic channel?11:52
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Level15sfire: brand/model?11:52
PupenoLevel15: I'm using a Kinesis Advantage (in dvorak mode). I like it11:52
sfireLevel15: make sure to check your desk for the proper height and everything often that is even more important than the keyboard11:53
Level15stdin: yeah, but here's so much more funs :)11:53
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stdinLevel15: and it's a kickable offence too11:53
Assidhrmm..11:53
sfireLevel15: Microsoft Natural 400011:53
PupenoLevel15: my current problem is that I use it only at work, and at home I loose the training of those keys in a different place.11:53
Level15lol11:53
Assidi was thinking when i upgrade during the penryns.. i would prolly get the ati card11:53
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gnyffelIs there any way I can preserve my custom xmodmap when I change keyboard layouts, or do I have to reapply my xmodmap script every time?11:53
sfireAssid: avoid ATI like the plague.. their cards totally blow in linux11:54
Assidhrmm11:54
sfireI'm stuck with one in my new dell.. I plan to smash it with a hammer when I get a nvidia11:54
Level15nvidia is the way to go if you want gl and stuff...11:54
Assiddamn11:54
gnyffelsfire: agree, though people already stuck with them should look towards the new avivo-thingy11:54
stdinIntel ftw11:54
Assidi was actually looking for the ati x130011:54
vzduchAvivo?11:55
sfireAssid: I believe that is what mine is11:55
sfireits a POS11:55
gnyffelvzduch: yeah, an open source r500 driver. It's under development11:55
Assidreally?11:55
stdingnyffel: not sure, how are you switching? from the KDE switcher?11:55
Assidbut on windows its fast?11:55
gnyffelstdin: yeah11:55
Assidokay i think something wrong with my svn11:55
sfireAssid: I wouldn't know.. formatted the PC right when I got it11:55
vzduchdoesn't apply to me, I have Nvidia :)11:55
gnyffelAssid: mine is a x1400, same chip as x1300. Stick to NVidia if at all possible11:55
Assidi cant download any themes11:56
stdingnyffel: you could ask in #kde they know the settings better than I11:56
vzducha GF2 though, but at least no ATI *gg*11:56
gnyffelstdin: thanks, I'll try that11:56
Assidgnyffel: what about the black windows every now and then when using beryl11:56
Level15Assid: i think those are unresponsive windows11:56
gnyffelAssid: the fglrx driver doesn't support aiglx, so no beryl unless you want to run an xgl xserver. Which sucks.11:56
gnyffelAssid: at least that's my understanding11:57
Assidgnyffel: so considering most people do have nvidia.. perhaps work on something to make it compatible?11:57
sfireAssid: the built in video in my laptop (intel) makes my ati x1400 look worthless11:57
sfireand that is really sad11:58
gnyffelsfire: there is hope for people with ATI, however :P11:58
sfiregnyffel: yes.. they can purchase a real card11:58
sfirejust like I'm going to have to do11:58
gnyffelsfire: pfeh, as I said, the avivo driver. No go now, and you should definitely avoid ATI, but at least us still stuck with them have something to look forward to11:59
Assidman.. i wish this stupid svn would work11:59
Assidit just hangs up11:59
Assidi cant even kill a svn process i manually start from cli11:59
sfireAssid: sudo kill ?11:59
Assidyeah but everytime ?11:59
AssidCTRL C just doesnt abort12:00
Assidno wonder my emerald theme manager doesnt work12:00
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Assidi cant get more themes12:00
Assidridiculous12:00
gnyffelsfire: also, ATI cards (older ones at least, x2xxx suck compared to nv, afaik) are fine. I think it's important to distinguish between the driver and the hardware12:00
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jhutchinsAssid: svn is used daily by millions of users on thousands of sites.12:01
Assidjhutchins: i know.. i use it too.. but something is messed up here12:01
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Assidit just crashes12:01
Level15Assid: the problem with emerald is something else...12:01
AssidLevel15 im running the same line from cli .. and i cant CTRL C to abort the svn transfer.. and nothing ever happens during this12:01
jhutchinsAssid: Three possibilities:  Something set up wrong at the svn site, something wrong with the directory/filestructure on the receiving end, or something wrong with the command used.12:01
jhutchinsAssid: Oh, or bad network connection.12:02
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Level15it is a bad network connection... it will eventually time out12:02
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jhutchinsAssid: Since svn isn't really an interactive program, it's not surprizing that it's not listening to stdio for Ctrl-C but has to be killed.12:02
Level15i think the svn site is down/unreachable/something like that12:02
Assidhere.. try it yourself : svn co svn://svn.beryl-project.org/beryl/trunk/emerald-themes-repo /tmp/theme12:03
jhutchinsLevel15: So kinda a combination of 1 & 4.12:03
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jhutchinsNo interest in beryl.  I don't alpha-test eye-candy, I do real work.12:03
endlevelcan anyone tell me ?? how install .rpm file in KUBUNTU ??/12:03
stdinAssid: beryl is no longer developed12:04
gnyffelendlevel: alien is a possibility12:04
stdin!rpm | endlevel12:04
ubotuendlevel: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)12:04
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Assidstdin: ?12:04
stdinAssid: compiz-fusion12:04
Assidon kubuntu ?12:05
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gnyffelAssid: beryl and compiz merged12:05
Assidyeah i was reading something like that12:05
obf213my suspend, was working perfectly now it doesnt work12:05
obf213i hvnt changed any settings.12:05
Assidbut still .. this should work right12:05
stdinAssid: most of the beryl site is down now, try fusion https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion12:06
endlevelmy Computer Shows this messege "12:07
endlevelThe program 'alien' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:12:07
endlevelsudo apt-get install alien12:07
endlevelbash: alien: command not found12:07
Assidgreat .. now someone tells me12:07
stdinendlevel: yes, you have to install it with the command it gave you "sudo apt-get install alien"12:07
vzduchendlevel: what for?12:07
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endlevelbut now show this " E: Couldn't find package alien12:09
vzduchendlevel: what for?12:09
stdin!info alien12:09
ubotualien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.65 (feisty), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB12:09
stdinendlevel: what are you trying to install?12:09
endlevela software i download from softpedia.com12:10
vzduchwhat software?12:10
Assidstdin: screwed :(12:10
endlevelthat is yahoo messenger for linux12:10
stdinAssid: why?12:10
endlevelname is " rh9.ymessenger-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm12:10
vzduch.oO( why is it that ppl can't be precise about what they're doing? )12:10
RobNyccan anyone help me upgrade to kde 3.5.712:10
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stdinendlevel: 1) yahoo have a .deb, 2) kopete works with yahoo and you already have that12:11
vzduch!kde12:11
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.12:11
Assidhttp://pastebin.ca/64803312:11
Assidstdin: ^12:11
lnxkdeRobNyc: !!12:11
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RobNyclnxkde: !!!!!!!!!!!112:11
RobNyccuanto tiempo12:11
lnxkdeRobNyc: q hay?12:11
evilmmi actually prefer gaim to kopete12:11
RobNyclnxkde: mucho man y tu12:11
lnxkde /join #prlinux12:12
RobNycvzduch: thanks but that didnt help i already have 3.5.612:12
stdinAssid: did you add the sources and apt-get update?12:12
endleveli have kopete where i can use YAHOO ...12:12
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Assidstdin: yes12:12
Assidand i also disabled the beryl source12:12
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endlevelbut if i want to install .rpm file in KUBUNTU ...so how i can ?12:13
evilmmalien12:13
Assidstdin: http://pastebin.ca/64803812:13
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Assidwhen i try to fix it12:13
endlevelalien not work in KUBUNTU 7.0412:13
evilmmah12:13
gnyffelvzduch: if 3.5.7 is the newest version available in Kubuntu, why am I not notified of the upgrade through apt? Is it stable?12:13
vzduchendlevel: you don't need to, so why bother?12:13
vzduchgnyffel: because it's not in the default repos12:14
evilmmi rarely if ever install enything out of repos so12:14
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stdinAssid: did you have compiz-extra already installed?12:14
evilmmi just with they would put pidgin in there12:14

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