[12:15] <underdog5004> !attitude | adenicio
[12:15] <ubotu> adenicio: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:16] <underdog5004> !people
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about people - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <underdog5004> adenicio, try spelling out all the words. It makes you seem more intelligent.
[12:17] <adenicio> underdog5004: sorry im not that good in riten english
[12:17] <underdog5004> adenicio, what is your native language?
[12:17] <underdog5004> I'm guessing spanish or italian...
[12:17] <whizadree> darn my luck i just got one step further ,
[12:17] <koyo001> klobster: got anything from the paste
[12:17] <klobster> adencio | !es
[12:18] <adenicio> underdog5004: when i conect to the net someone try to conect to me and control my mouse n keyboard
[12:18] <underdog5004> adenicio, how can you tell?
[12:18] <Dragnslcr> adenicio (n=adenicio@Mix-Pointe-a-Pitre-105-2-13.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #kubuntu
[12:18] <Dragnslcr> The .fr would make me guess French first
[12:18] <adenicio> underdog5004: english
[12:18] <underdog5004> !fr | adenicio
[12:18] <ubotu> adenicio: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:18] <hangthedj> whizadree: have you looked at www.linux-laptops.org?
[12:18] <underdog5004> adenicio, yeah, but how can you tell someone is connecting to you?
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> adenicio- are you talking about VNC connections?
[12:19] <whizadree> hangthedj just checking now
[12:20] <adenicio> underdog5004: something pop up saying someone trying to control the pc will i alow them to take control of mouse n keyboard that wa it said
[12:21] <adenicio> Dragnslcr: i dont have vnc.unless it does install the same time as u installl kubuntu
[12:21] <klobster> koyo001: can you ls /media anbd paste it? it looks like the drive IS in fact mounting?
[12:21] <Dragnslcr> adenicio- I don't believe so
[12:22] <underdog5004> adenicio, do this: less cat /var/log/auth.log
[12:22] <koyo001> klobster: i see the drive i just dont know where to access it from
[12:22] <underdog5004> look for successful connections...or just pastebin it.
[12:23] <adenicio> underdog5004: its says theres no such file
[12:23] <Dragnslcr> adenicio- you can see what ports you have open in a terminal with netstat -ltu
[12:23] <underdog5004> do this : cd /var/log
[12:23] <miles> can u unfold the cube in beryl or is that compiz only?
[12:23] <underdog5004> then type in : ls -a | grep auth.log
[12:24] <underdog5004> miles, you can do that, but not by default. Look in beryl options for that
[12:24] <miles> yea, i know, but what is it called?
[12:24] <klobster> koyo001: where do you see the drive?
[12:25] <underdog5004> miles, just look around, geez, I'm not going to spoon feed you.
[12:25] <miles> because, ive looked at every option
[12:25] <underdog5004> h/o, lemme look
[12:25] <miles> ok well i got another beryl question, and dont get mad becauese it isnt noob
[12:26] <BluesKaj> miles, how can you be sure ?
[12:26] <underdog5004> miles, in Beryl settings manager, go to Desktop -> Desktop Cube the go to shortcuts, and click on bindings
[12:26] <underdog5004> for me, it's <Control><Alt>z
[12:26] <underdog5004> you can change it though
[12:26] <BluesKaj> not mad  miles, just annoyed ...
[12:27] <BluesKaj> !effects
[12:27] <ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[12:27] <miles> ok
[12:27] <koyo001> klobster: system settings/advanced/disk and filesystem
[12:27] <miles> well i got one more question though, and this one is legit
[12:28] <underdog5004> if it's related to beryl, take it to #ubuntu-effects
[12:28] <underdog5004> what is the question?
[12:28] <miles> beryl project rejoined compiz correct?
[12:28] <underdog5004> !compiz-fusion
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <underdog5004> miles, yep, it's now called compiz fusion
[12:28] <miles> well no, im just wondering what is going to happen to beryl
[12:28] <miles> does it get taken out of the repos?
[12:29] <underdog5004> it'll be abandoned, I imagine...I'm just waiting a bit for fusion to mature...
[12:29] <klobster> what does it say there?
[12:29] <miles> yea, i switched to fusion, and it looked more os x, but it ran worse
[12:29] <underdog5004> good to know
[12:29] <miles> and then i switched back, and thats why i wasnt sure if you could unfold in beryl
[12:29] <underdog5004> yes, you can.
[12:29] <miles> jeez, its not like i was asking how to get beryl
[12:30] <underdog5004> lol
[12:30] <klobster> koyo001: you should be able to create a mount point from there, if you wish.  just right click on a partition and choose modify
[12:30] <hamato> Yeah I like that, miles. I put on my robe and wizard hat.
[12:30] <underdog5004> ahahahahahah!
[12:31] <underdog5004> I love that! "Not you again!"
[12:31] <klobster> !family | hamato
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about family - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <klobster> grr.  not my day
[12:31] <BluesKaj> bah....eyecandy...what a waste of time ... impresses for a while , i gues but what real use is beryl anyway ?
[12:31] <underdog5004> BluesKaj, I find it easier to use my multiple desktops.
[12:31] <miles> i use it at work, it really does help if you have a lot of windows
[12:32] <miles> wobbly windows dont add anything
[12:32] <underdog5004> BluesKaj, also, wobbly windows make it feel more organic
[12:32] <miles> but it is something mac and windows cant do
[12:32] <BluesKaj> organic ...gawd :)
[12:32] <klobster> koyo001: what is the device location in system settings?
[12:32] <underdog5004> lol
[12:32] <miles> all i gotta say, its kinda wierd now when my windows dont wobble
[12:33] <koyo001> klobster: /dev/sda1
[12:33] <underdog5004> it throws me for about 4 minutes...
[12:33] <klobster> ???
[12:33] <BluesKaj> don't mind me ...just a grumpy old retired guy with an ati graphics card :)
[12:33] <underdog5004> BluesKaj, oh, I'm sorry...I didn't know...
[12:34] <BluesKaj> i don't need sympathey :)
[12:34] <klobster> koyo001: how? I mean but...  Are you using fiesty?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> err sympathy
[12:34] <miles> would it be unwise to not upgrade to gutsy?
[12:35] <klobster> your USB drive is /dev/SDA1???
[12:35] <miles> its not going to be supported
[12:35] <koyo001> klobster: yes kubuntu fiesty
[12:35] <klobster> koyo001: see above
[12:35] <koyo001> klobster: yes sda1
[12:36] <klobster> can you capture a screenshot of your disk and filesystem window and pastebin it?
[12:36] <underdog5004> imageshack.us , I think
[12:36] <BluesKaj> depends what hardware you are running and what gutsy can run on it  ... my experience was very positive in some areas , but very unsatisfactory in the graphics dept
[12:37] <koyo001>  klobster: how? dont know how to do that???
[12:38] <underdog5004> too bad, BluesKaj
[12:38] <BluesKaj> feisty does nicely tho , so I'll stick with it
[12:39] <klobster> koyo001: sorry use imageshack.us
[12:39] <whizadree> hangthedj , well i got the non wirless card work got ip and updating
[12:39] <whizadree> but still wirless is the battle
[12:39] <klobster> koyo001: you can use the printscreen button and save it to disk
[12:39] <klobster> sorry i am a little tired
[12:40] <hangthedj> whizadree: what kind of card is it?
[12:41] <whizadree> hang > its a dell wirless 1390 wlan
[12:43] <klobster> koyo001: also pastebin the output of df
[12:43] <koyo001>  klobster: i set a mount point as /media
[12:44] <koyo001>  klobster: and device as /dev/sda1
[12:44] <miles> brb
[12:44] <koyo001> but tells me that only root has permission of access
[12:45] <miles> !find ardour
[12:45] <ubotu> Found: ardour-doc, ardour-gtk, ardour-gtk-dbg, ardour-gtk-i686, ardour-session-exchange
[12:46] <klobster> koyo001: you shouldn't use /media as a mount poitn, you should create a folder in /media to mount to
[12:46] <slim> What's good? I have a problem. I need to install a *.run file. I don't know how to do it.
[12:46] <klobster> koyo001: can you pastebin the df command for me?
[12:46] <slim> I've gone to "Properties" and made it 'executable'.
[12:50] <koyo001>  klobster: http://dpaste.com/16074/
[12:50] <Sanne> slim: are you sure the application isn't installable from the Ubuntu repositories?
[12:52] <miles> !find ardour2
[12:52] <ubotu> Package/file ardour2 does not exist in feisty
[12:52] <klobster> koyo001: the drive IS mounted at /media currently. can you run df again with the -T option (sorry, I forgot to include that)
[12:53] <miles> !find ardour
[12:53] <ubotu> Found: ardour-doc, ardour-gtk, ardour-gtk-dbg, ardour-gtk-i686, ardour-session-exchange
[12:53] <Sanne> miles: I don't know if ubuntustudio's repositories provide ardour2, but might be worth a try. Just a thought.
[12:53] <ryaren> hi
[12:54] <BluesKaj> !*.run
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <ryaren> I have a very big problem! When I install the nvidia driver, the kernel module doesn't load when I restart my computer
[12:56] <koyo001> klobster: that command does not work
[12:57] <klobster> df -T koyo001: ??
[12:58] <Geekosaur> Can anyone suggest a solution to my problem?  I desperately needed a pdf copy of a document, sGreetings and salutations, y'all.
[12:58] <koyo001> klobster: http://dpaste.com/16075/
[12:59] <klobster> !ntfs | koyo001
[12:59] <ubotu> koyo001: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:59] <Geekosaur> Oops, I was trying to get sometging done, and I get tangled up.
[12:59] <Sanne> Geekosaur: do you mean something like a "print to pdf" option?
[01:00] <koyo001> klobster: so what??? linux reads ntfs
[01:00] <klobster> koyo001: sorry i have to make my daughter and i some dinner, if you need further help installing the ntfs driver, i will be back in 45 minutes
[01:01] <Geekosaur> I have apparently set my printers up so that the pdf printer is the default, and I can't print to the real printer.  Does anyone know how I can get back where I should be?  Too many users...
[01:01] <whizadree> does anyone have information on how to get the 1390 WLAN Wireless Driver to work ?
[01:01] <ryaren_> When I install nvidia driver and reboot my computer, the kernel module doesn't load and I don't know why!
[01:02] <elite101> hey is there a simple p2p sharing client like limewire? or frostwire?
[01:02] <BluesKaj> elite101:  amule
[01:02] <elite101> does it work good?
[01:02] <klobster> koyo001: linux does not read ntfs by default
[01:02] <elite101> like alot of users?
[01:02] <BluesKaj> I'm using it
[01:03] <elite101> so does it work with music/programs/video?
[01:03] <whizadree> BluesKaj  does it link into the emule system by default?
[01:03] <elite101> well i will try it
[01:03] <klobster> koyo001: if you do ls /media/Seagate/ what is the output?
[01:04] <BluesKaj> yup whizadree , you may have to configure some ports
[01:04] <elite101> does frostwire work good?
[01:04] <whizadree> nice ... thats where i get some good ebooks
[01:05] <miles> no
[01:05] <BluesKaj> frostwire sucks
[01:05] <whizadree> :)
[01:05] <koyo001> klobster: permission denied
[01:05] <elite101> well i messed up my computer using lime wire :)
[01:06] <elite101> it sucked very bad
[01:06] <elite101> but i got everything running on kubuntu really good now
[01:06] <MaTiAz> 'tards use limewire
[01:07] <klobster> koyo001: hrm. and sudo ls /media/Seagate ?
[01:09] <slim_> I've got to update punkbuster. How do I get to the desktop as Root, or how can I execute a *.run package from the command line?
[01:10] <klobster> koyo001: how did you mount the drive?
[01:11] <koyo001> klobster: through system
[01:12] <whizadree> brb
[01:14] <klobster> koyo001: can you do " cat /etc/fstab " and dpaste it?
[01:15] <Geekosaur> I guess I am rolling off the page, so I will try this another way.  Somehow, through some means, my system can no longer print normally.  The job goes from the app to the server, and stops there.  I restart the server, and all is well.  The job is in the tray, ready to go.but can't.  Yes the printer is on and ready to accept jobs, and I have even restarted the machine - still the same.  HELP!!
[01:15] <carlucha63> hola
[01:16] <carlucha63> hola
[01:20] <Geekosaur> I'll try this again.  I have a Feisty system and a HP F-380 PSC printer.  Somehow the printer is not working and the system may be fouled upand be pointing  to a virtual printer (pdf I believe)).
[01:22] <whizadree> whats the location of the network card config
[01:24] <underdog5004> whizadree, for a gui, go to kmenu > system settings > network settings
[01:24] <underdog5004> for a cli, just use ifconfig
[01:27] <adenicio> anyone know how to use the wiimote on feity?bluethoot obex is not detecting my wiimote
[01:27] <adenicio> anyone know how to use the wiimote on feity?bluethoot obex is not detecting my wiimote
[01:28] <whizadree> ok there but etho is there any more looks like it didnt launch on boot up
[01:29] <dthacker> Geekosaur: from the command line, type lpstat -d and see what your default destination is.
[01:31] <whizadree> eth1 is there (but thats the usless broadcom drivers which is not working at present ) , eth0 was my  hardwired
[01:32] <dthacker> whizadree: was your hardwired connection DHCP or a static IP?
[01:32] <whizadree> DHCP  - but the etho was showing before a reboot
[01:33] <dthacker> OK, so you have rebooted, and eth0 does not work.  Step 1 is verify your physical connection.  Make sure the network card has some blinky lights.
[01:34] <whizadree> all present and correct
[01:35] <whizadree> lights on both at NIC and Router
[01:35] <Tomi-idle> ping localhost
[01:35] <buck_> i love this linux
[01:35] <dthacker> whizadree: Step two is to try and reach your DHCP server again.  Pop open Konsole and type sudo ifdown eth0.  You'll need to give sudo your password
[01:35] <whizadree> 0.0049,ms ok
[01:36] <adenicio> anyone know how to use the wiimote on feity?bluethoot obex is not detecting my wiimote
[01:36] <adenicio> buck_: why?
[01:36] <whizadree> eth0 not configured
[01:37] <dthacker> whizadree: ok try "sudo ifup eth0"  and watch it try to reach the DHCP server
[01:38] <buck_> because its a pain in the ass and the rewards are awesome
[01:38] <whizadree> ERROR while getting interface flags:no such device
[01:38] <whizadree> failed to bring up eth0
[01:39] <dthacker> whizadree: you say the card has loaded before, correct?
[01:40] <whizadree> yup , whats the config file for the boot up of the card maybe its not in there
[01:40] <whizadree> i wonder if the card isnt even loaded
[01:40] <whizadree> thats what it look s like
[01:41] <dthacker> hmmm, I have dapper running right now.  I think in fiesty there's an auto detect utility in the System Configuration GUI.
[01:44] <level1> !compiz
[01:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:46] <ryaren> pls help! When I install nvidia 9639 driver and I reboot the system it loads 7184 Nvidia kernel module and my X doesn't start!! But I don't understand why!?
[01:48] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, did you uninstall the old driver before installing the new one?
[01:49] <ryaren> I installed 9639 to a brand new kubuntu
[01:49] <ryaren> Kubuntu install some kind of nvidia driver by default?
[01:49] <SlimJa> Anyone here play Enemy Territory?
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, shouldn't....at least not the proprietary ones
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, are you in text mode right now?
[01:50] <SlimJa> I can't seem to connect to bunker1.aaxxss.com
[01:51] <ryaren> no
[01:52] <whizadree> does where within init.d would you locate the eth0 bootup
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, you are on kubuntu, tho, correct
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> ?
[01:53] <ryaren> yes
[01:53] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, what method did you use to install the driver?
[01:53] <dawiz> #mepis
[01:54] <dawiz> anyone know how i can get to the mepis irc channel?\
[01:54] <ryaren> from a *.run package
[01:54] <dawiz> im new to irc
[01:54] <dawiz> cant get grub to install for nothing
[01:54] <hitmanWilly> dawiz, /join #mepis
[01:55] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, that's where the problem is probably
[01:55] <W8TAH> hi folks -- im on kubuntu feisty and i need to scale the speed of my proc due to temperature issues -- autoscaling woudl be ideal -- can anyone recomend a package or procedure?
[01:56] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: no it is not the problem because when I installed from a repos it didn't work to...
[01:56] <ryaren> alays the same problem
[01:56] <ryaren> kernel module and driver doesn't match
[01:56] <ryaren> but
[01:57] <ryaren> when I installed the 9639 and start X without reboot
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, the one from the repos and the .run package are probably conflicting
[01:57] <dawiz> can anyone help with grub?
[01:57] <ryaren> when I installed the 9639 and start X without reboot driver works fine
[01:57] <ryaren> and when I reboot the system didn't load the correct kernel module!
[01:58] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, that's because the .run script isn't aware of the kubuntu packaging methods
[01:58] <ryaren> no
[01:59] <ryaren> In the past I successfully installed the driver from *.run pack
[01:59] <ryaren> I'm sure the problem is not on the installation method
[01:59] <whizadree> ethtool cant find eth0 either
[02:00] <whizadree> *sigh*
[02:00] <ryaren> if I install from adept manager there is the same problem so ..
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, what I would suggest is you uninstall any nvidia drivers currently installed and start from scratch
[02:01] <ryaren> okay
[02:01] <ryaren> how can i uninstall?
[02:01] <ryaren> all of the nvidia drivers?
[02:01] <ryaren> and kernel modules
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, for the .run its <name_of_run_pkg> --uninstall
[02:02] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, run with sudo
[02:03] <JohnFlux> hmm.  I clicked on a link for nasa tv, which is a link to a .ram  file that contains a link to a .rm file
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, and for the repo ones, its sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-glx*
[02:03] <JohnFlux> and it just worked.  it loaded kaffeine and just played
[02:03] <JohnFlux> that means all my ugly scripts that I've had to use before and no longer useful
[02:04] <JohnFlux> i wish to complain! :-D  It's all becoming too easy
[02:04] <JohnFlux> :)
[02:04] <dawiz> can anyone help with grub?
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> dawiz, what exactly is the problem with it?
[02:04] <dawiz> it wont install
[02:05] <hitmanWilly> ?
[02:05] <dawiz> i try to install and it wont install grub
[02:05] <dawiz> i reboot, and i get grub>\
[02:05] <dawiz> grub>
[02:05] <koyote> hrm. amarok apparently hasn't been saving my playlists
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> dawiz, ok, that's an improperly configured menu.lst
[02:06] <dawiz> trying to fix this for a day now
[02:06] <dawiz> that was one error
[02:06] <BluesKaj> !grub
[02:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:06] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: command not found
[02:06] <dawiz> menu.lst
[02:06] <dawiz> i dont have floppy
[02:06] <dawiz> i been through all the howtos
[02:06] <dawiz> none of them are working
[02:06] <dawiz> i never had grub
[02:07] <dawiz> this is a fresh install
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, sudo ./<name_of_pkg>.run --uninstall
[02:07] <BluesKaj> dawiz: then DL and burn supergrubdisk ...it'll help you reinstall grub
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, from the directory where you have the .run file
[02:07] <dawiz> im not reinstalling
[02:07] <dawiz> this is a fresh install
[02:07] <BluesKaj>  reinstall grub
[02:09] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: done
[02:09] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-glx*
[02:09] <dawiz> there is nothing to reinstall
[02:09] <dawiz> does that matter?
[02:09] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: How can I see which type of Nvidia kernel modules are installed on my system?
[02:09] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: done too
[02:09] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, lsmod
[02:10] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, shows all modules currently installed
[02:10] <Level15> ryaren: aptitude search nvidia-kernel
[02:10] <Tomi-idle> http://tumbl.us/post/7678724  omg lol
[02:10] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, what video card do you have?
[02:10] <BluesKaj> dawiz: read this again .. DL and burn "supergrubdisk"
[02:10] <koyote> no
[02:10] <koyote> if I try to recreate a playlist it claims one already exists
[02:10] <koyote> but I can't FIND it or SELECT it
[02:10] <dawiz> does it matter if im not dual booting?
[02:11] <marckie> hello?
[02:11] <hitmanWilly> dawiz, no, it makes it easier in fact
[02:11] <marckie> has anybody here used screenlets?
[02:11] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: Nvidia geforce 4 ti4200
[02:11] <marckie> !screenlets
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenlets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, you need the legacy drivers then
[02:11] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: lsmod tells somekindof nvidia module is installed
[02:11] <marckie> !ping
[02:11] <ubotu> host not found
[02:11] <BluesKaj> dawiz: No
[02:11] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: nvidia               3930348  0
[02:12] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: how can I uninstall this?
[02:12] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, what did the dpkg cmd return?
[02:13] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: skip the deleting nvidia-glx* because it is not available
[02:13] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-glx
[02:14] <koyote> where does amarok store playlist files by default?
[02:14] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, you actually probably need the 7xxx series drivers for your vid card
[02:14] <koyote> since the search function tyo add a playlisty I made (which apparently for some dumb reaosn IS NOT added when I save it)
[02:14] <koyote> is also dumb, in the nonrecursive sense
[02:15] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: Ok deleted! But lsmod tells nvidia module is loading.. Maybe I have to reboot the system?
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[02:16] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: No, I need 96xx driver
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, not for a geforce 4
[02:16] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: I had that one in the past
[02:16] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, really, i thought that was a legacy card...
[02:17] <hitmanWilly> hold on a sec...
[02:17] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: okay
[02:17] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: I reboot the system
[02:17] <x_link> Hi
[02:18] <x_link> deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all
[02:18] <koyote> *sigh* why can't default installed default apps just handle simple stuff without breaking?
[02:18] <x_link> Is that repo down or what?
[02:18] <koyote> saving a playlist and ffinding it again should not require a mac.
[02:18] <x_link> Haven't been working for a couple of days.
[02:19] <ryaren> re
[02:19] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, one more thing to check
[02:20] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, it is the 9x series you need btw, sorry
[02:20] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-glx-legacy
[02:21] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, see if that actually deletes anything
[02:21] <dawiz> ok im attempting supergrubdisk
[02:21] <koyote> so, where are playlist files stored by default?
[02:21] <koyote> what is the file extension?
[02:21] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: as I said 9639 driver wroks fine without reboot the system, because the installation progress manually load 9639 kernel module, but after the rebooting only th 7184 kernel module loads and the X does not start..
[02:22] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: It didn't delete anything
[02:23] <ryaren> so now all of the nvidia drivers deleted
[02:23] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:24] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, that has the correct drivers (9x series) for that card
[02:24] <ryaren> but If i install the 9639 driver and reboot the system it will load the 7184 kernel module
[02:24] <ryaren> I'm sure about that
[02:25] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, no it won't because there is no 7184 module for it to load :)
[02:25] <ryaren> okay I'll try
[02:25] <ryaren> just hold on a sec
[02:27] <ryaren> okay No it works fine WITHOUT reboot!
[02:28] <ryaren> Now I reboot the system
[02:28] <ryaren> just a min
[02:30] <marC-> how do you install icon themes?
[02:31] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: r u here?
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> yeah, still here
[02:32] <hitmanWilly> same problem?
[02:32] <ryaren> yes
[02:32] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, you said this was a fresh install, right?
[02:32] <ryaren> yes
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, normally i wouldn't say this, but it sounds like something got seriously borked somewhere during install
[02:33] <ryaren> NVRM: Loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 1.0-7184
[02:34] <marC-> how do you install icon themes in kubuntu? trying to install the crystal icon theme?
[02:34] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, in a console try this: sudo rmmod nvidia
[02:34] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, see what that returns
[02:34] <graft> marC-: just install kde-icons-crystal
[02:35] <ryaren> nothin returns
[02:35] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, sudo modprobe nvidia
[02:35] <marC-> graft: i dled theme from kde-look
[02:35] <ryaren> ok
[02:35] <ryaren> and then?
[02:35] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, anything return?
[02:35] <marC-> graft: the icon theme installer for somereason wont recognize anything in the kde crystal theme directory
[02:35] <ryaren> nothin
[02:36] <ryaren> wow
[02:37] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, what?
[02:37] <ryaren> now driver works fine
[02:37] <ryaren> but
[02:37] <ryaren> If I will reboot the system it will be okay too?
[02:37] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, nope, just manually did what the installer does
[02:38] <ryaren> ahh
[02:38] <ryaren> How can I fix this problem
[02:38] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, hold on a sec, need to check something
[02:38] <ryaren> okay
[02:41] <marC-> Hello all, I'm trying to install this icon theme  KDE_Crystal_Diamond_2.6_Kubuntu_Mod.... I am having no such luck could anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:42] <bob_sinclair> !cifs
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <bob_sinclair> !find cifs
[02:42] <ubotu> Found: libjcifs-java, libjcifs-java-doc
[02:42] <bob_sinclair> hmm
[02:42] <minus> find divx
[02:42] <minus> !find divx
[02:42] <ubotu> Found: divxcomp, avifile-divx-plugin
[02:43] <ryaren_> hitmanWilly: there is something what may help in the messages log:
[02:43] <ryaren_> Aug  6 02:29:27 ryaren-home kernel: [   30.566925]  NVRM: RM/client version mismatch!!
[02:43] <ryaren_> Aug  6 02:29:27 ryaren-home kernel: [   30.566934]  NVRM:    aborting to avoid catastrophe!
[02:44] <hitmanWilly> ryaren_, ok, try this for me, sudo nano /etc/defaults/linux-restricted-modules-common
[02:44] <ryaren_> ok
[02:45] <hitmanWilly> ryaren_, then add nvidia inside the quotes
[02:45] <ryaren_> it is an empty file
[02:45] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ? nothing at all?
[02:45] <ryaren_> yep
[02:46] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, i think ive got the issue :)
[02:46] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, exit out
[02:47] <ryaren_> yep
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[02:47] <ryaren_> no defaults
[02:47] <ryaren_> ./etc/default
[02:47] <ryaren_> :)
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> lol
[02:48] <marC-> Hello all, I'm trying to install this icon theme  KDE_Crystal_Diamond_2.6_Kubuntu_Mod.... I am having no such luck could anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:48] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, let me know what that does
[02:49] <ryaren_> hitmanWilly: It contain only this line: DISABLED_MODULES=""
[02:49] <hitmanWilly> ryaren_, that's not an empty file then :)
[02:50] <hitmanWilly> ryaren_, inside the quotes after that is where i needed you to add nvidia
[02:50] <ryaren_> hitmanWilly: like this? DISABLED_MODULES="nvidia"
[02:51] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, yup
[02:51] <ryaren_> and then?
[02:51] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, save and exit
[02:51] <ryaren_> ok :)
[02:51] <ryaren_> reboot?
[02:52] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, yeah, there is one more thing, but see if this works first
[02:52] <ryaren_> ok
[02:56] <Jmanfoo> Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't the xscreensavers used to take a screenshot of the desk to do distortions on?
[02:56] <ryaren> re
[02:56] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: nothing happens
[02:56] <ryaren> still 7184 loaded
[02:58] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: Are you here?
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, sorry, stepped out for a sec
[03:01] <ryaren> okay
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, anything
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> ?
[03:01] <ryaren> Nothing
[03:01] <ryaren> still 7184 loaded
[03:02] <hitmanWilly> that is weird, ok...lsmod | grep nv and see what pops up
[03:03] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, actually, pastebin the output of that
[03:03] <hitmanWilly> !paste | ryaren
[03:03] <ubotu> ryaren: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:03] <ryaren> okok
[03:03] <ryaren> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32707/plain/
[03:05] <jago> how can i change the screen resolution of kdm to 1024 x 768 instead of 800 x 600?
[03:05] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, sudo nano /etc/modules and pastebin the contents of that
[03:05] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: I manually loaded the right module! (rmmod, modprobe)
[03:05] <ryaren> it is not problem?
[03:06] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, just now or before the lsmod cmd?
[03:06] <Jmanfoo> jago, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find where it says "Section Screen"
[03:07] <jago> jmamfoo, thank you!
[03:07] <Jmanfoo> change the "virtual" line to 1024 768 instead of 800 600
[03:07] <ryaren> before the lsmod
[03:07] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, that explains it :)
[03:07] <Jmanfoo> np jago
[03:07] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: So i have to reboot again?
[03:08] <ryaren> ./etc/modules: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32708/plain/
[03:08] <x_link> deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ feisty-seveas all
[03:08] <x_link> Is that repo working for you guys?
[03:08] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, add nvidia to that file
[03:09] <x_link> It worked for me the first days, but hasn't been for the last 2-3 days now
[03:09] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, then try a reboot
[03:09] <ryaren> I tried this but it didn't work
[03:09] <ryaren> but as u wish
[03:09] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, nm then
[03:13] <ryaren> re
[03:13] <x_link> baah
[03:13] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: nothin changed :(
[03:13] <buck_> i love linux
[03:13] <Jmanfoo> i second that
[03:13] <buck_> forget bg
[03:13] <MaTiAz> lol
[03:13] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: whait is fuse and lp in /etc/modules ?
[03:13] <buck_> i may never buy another MS product again
[03:13] <MaTiAz> I believe in the coexistence of Linux and Windows :p
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, different modules the kernel loads
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, im working on a workaround for you, hold on one sec
[03:14] <buck_> i will see if i can find a reason to use Windows..
[03:14] <buck_> well none ..
[03:14] <buck_> hahaha
[03:14] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: okay
[03:14] <Littleboots> games
[03:14] <Littleboots> that's about it
[03:14] <buck_> no .. not games
[03:14] <Littleboots> yes
[03:14] <buck_> i am playing ut 2k4
[03:14] <Jmanfoo> eh, i wish my reverse VNC and exchange calendar still worked, but other than that i don't miss windows at all
[03:15] <Littleboots> other games
[03:15] <MaTiAz> buck_: Games, and some other stuff
[03:15] <MaTiAz> Like Adobe products
[03:15] <buck_> and ut3 will be released on linux too
[03:15] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: Maybe I have to delete linux-restricted-manager package...
[03:15] <Jmanfoo> i dont miss adobe one bit lol
[03:15] <Littleboots> yes, but not everyone in the world likes UT =)
[03:15] <MaTiAz> buck_: Umm there are MANY MANY MANY other games than UT
[03:15] <buck_> linux has some powerful art programs
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, no
[03:15] <buck_> yeah .. doom 3
[03:15] <Jmanfoo> scorched3d is pretty cool
[03:15] <Littleboots> no
[03:15] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: why?
[03:15] <Jmanfoo> quake 3 runs on linux
[03:15] <Jmanfoo> railroad tycoon lol
[03:15] <buck_> if the game is worth it .. it will have a linux engine
[03:15] <Littleboots> most iD and epic tech runs on linux
[03:16] <MaTiAz> buck_: Ok, gimme a program which is as capable as Macromedia Flash
[03:16] <Littleboots> everybody else though.. not so much
[03:16] <MaTiAz> for flash editing of course
[03:16] <buck_> maybe EPIC will release gears of war
[03:16] <Jmanfoo> uh AJAX is making flash old hat
[03:16] <MaTiAz> Jmanfoo: Well I have my reasons for using Flash
[03:16] <Jmanfoo> there's some new stuff now that will make flash obsolete
[03:16] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, open a console and cd to /etc/rcc2.d
[03:16] <MaTiAz> So I don't give a <insert bad words> about other stuff :p
[03:16] <buck_> flash is so yesterday
[03:16] <hitmanWilly> sorry, rc2.d
[03:17] <ryaren> done
[03:17] <buck_> still easy
[03:17] <buck_> to use
[03:17] <buck_> and all
[03:17] <Littleboots> new icon themes give me the warm fuzzies
[03:17] <MaTiAz> Of course I could do that in vmware, but I prefer dualboot
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, sudo nano S99znvidia
[03:17] <buck_> than you may as well own a MAC
[03:17] <Jmanfoo> i'm dual-booting Vista right now, only because I paid out the nose for the vista license with my laptop and i'm not gonna throw it away lol
[03:17] <MaTiAz> meh
[03:17] <buck_> all that graphic art and media stuff
[03:17] <MaTiAz> Jmanfoo: Same :)
[03:18] <MaTiAz> buck_: I'm not gonna buy overpriced hardware
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, then add the following lines to it
[03:18] <Jmanfoo> i uninstalled everything i had running on vista though, except some apps i use at work
[03:18] <whizadree> yes ! i just got my Motorola WC810b/g working with Kubuntu
[03:18] <MaTiAz> My 1100 euro computer is much faster than the iMac with somewhat same price
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> #!/bin/sh
[03:18] <buck_> .. if you are willing to pay for overpriced software..
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> rmmod nvidia
[03:18] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: you mean: S20nvidia-kernel
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, hold on
[03:19] <buck_> linux rox
[03:19] <MaTiAz> buck_: Whatever, I still need Windows for some stuff
[03:19] <MaTiAz> Linux is awesome
[03:19] <MaTiAz> But it doesn't replace Windows
[03:19] <MaTiAz> For some people
[03:19] <MaTiAz> (not talking for everyone)
[03:19] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: ok done
[03:19] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, no, this will be a new file
[03:19] <buck_> im just impressed that it runs these games better than my windows did
[03:19] <MaTiAz> And I like gaming (other games than UT series) so I need Windows for that too :p
[03:20] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: okay, done
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, you added the #!/bin/sh ?
[03:20] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: yes
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, ok, add rmmod nvidia, then add modprobe nvidia
[03:20] <buck_> well if the craze catches on .. i forsee games crossplatforming like they are doing now.
[03:21] <buck_> counterstrike source
[03:21] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: S99znvidia -->  #!/bin/sh, rmmod nvidia, modprobe nvidia
[03:21] <MaTiAz> buck_: There are only a few commercial games with Linux versions
[03:21] <buck_> damn the list goes on
[03:21] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: done
[03:21] <MaTiAz> And there's no reason for them to do Linux ports
[03:21] <buck_> yeah ..
[03:21] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, all on different lines, correct?
[03:21] <MaTiAz> A very very small portion of gamers use Linux
[03:21] <buck_> becaue they can make more money
[03:21] <Littleboots> that and alot of games are written using directX
[03:21] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: of course
[03:21] <MaTiAz> Littleboots: Yeah that too
[03:21] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, sometimes you'd be surprised
[03:22] <buck_> but the smart games are cross platform
[03:22] <Littleboots> and DirectX does bring the pretties
[03:22] <MaTiAz> And I built my new computer specifically for gaming too, I'm not throwing Windows away :p
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, anyway, save and exit
[03:22] <buck_> unless its an exclusive
[03:22] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: I know :)
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> ryaren then chmod it +x
[03:22] <buck_> PS3 is not DX
[03:22] <MaTiAz> So?
[03:22] <buck_> i think xbox might be
[03:22] <MaTiAz> It is
[03:22] <Littleboots> yeah, and it a few years it will look worse than DirectX games
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, this *should* work
[03:22] <Littleboots> thats how it always goes
[03:22] <Littleboots> that's the advantage/curse pc gaming has
[03:23] <buck_> well the same games are written for both platforms.. becaue money
[03:23] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, its a hack, but hopefully an effective one
[03:23] <Littleboots> buy a shader3 card now and in a few years you'll need a shader4 card
[03:23] <buck_> all the bitchen FPS seem to cross platform too
[03:23] <MaTiAz> Littleboots: That's just evolution :)
[03:23] <MaTiAz> I'm really waiting for UT3
[03:23] <MaTiAz> I hope my Geforce 8800GTS runs it well :)
[03:23] <buck_> i have been since the begining of the year
[03:23] <Littleboots> I know, is just that by bank account does "evolve" quite as fast
[03:23] <MaTiAz> haha
[03:23] <MaTiAz> mine neither :>
[03:24] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, once that's done, try a reboot
[03:24] <buck_> I have dual 8800 gtxs
[03:24] <Littleboots> oh yea
[03:24] <Littleboots> I've got
[03:24] <buck_> no ..
[03:24] <MaTiAz> buck_: Uh, are you microsoft or something?
[03:24] <buck_> but i will
[03:24] <MaTiAz> lol
[03:24] <buck_> hahah
[03:24] <buck_> i dream ..
[03:24] <buck_> actuall i have SLI 7900 GT OC they suck
[03:24] <MaTiAz> 8800 Ultra in triple SLI = dream
[03:25] <hitmanWilly> i like my 7900
[03:25] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: okay i try
[03:25] <MaTiAz> 8800 cards are huge :)
[03:25] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, lemme know :)
[03:25] <buck_> well i am after 1 year sending mine in for replacement with BFG
[03:25] <buck_> they said i will probably be doing that again
[03:25] <buck_> i said good think you have lifetime warrenty
[03:26] <buck_> but one shitcanned worse than the other
[03:26] <buck_> so i sent that back first
[03:26] <buck_> seems the memory on them cant handle the OC
[03:26] <hitmanWilly> how hard is sli to pull off under linux, never tried it
[03:26] <MaTiAz> My R9600XT broke, so I got a geforce 6200 as a replacement
[03:26] <MaTiAz> lame
[03:26] <MaTiAz> But then my old computer broke so I had to get a new one :3
[03:26] <MaTiAz> Core 2 Duo rocks
[03:26] <Jmanfoo> anyone here know a lot about running VNC under linux?
[03:26] <whizadree> is there away of installing gnome on kubuntu ?
[03:26] <Jmanfoo> AMD forever baby!
[03:26] <buck_> yeah ..
[03:27] <dawiz> gnome and kde dont run together
[03:27] <Jmanfoo> whizadree, just download Ubuntu
[03:27] <buck_> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is one
[03:27] <dawiz> they are desktop environments
[03:27] <buck_> yeah .. sudo first
[03:27] <whizadree> well im doing udates atm
[03:28] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, you may just want to apt-get gnome instead, less ancillary programs
[03:29] <whizadree> and can the run lie with my other linux box ( be able to select which desktop enviro
[03:29] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, yup
[03:29] <whizadree> nice
[03:29] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: Nice! It is working, but I really don't understand what is the problem exactly..
[03:30] <dawiz> i wish xubuntu would install
[03:30] <dawiz> or the other 11 distros ive tried
[03:30] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, the kernel is trying to load the 7x module for some reason, the script I had you right just ovverrides that
[03:30] <hitmanWilly> *write
[03:31] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: Yes it is okay but How can it happen to load 71 module if it is not exist? :D
[03:31] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, that's what I was trying to figure out :P
[03:31] <jago> is it possible to have kdm be one resolution and my screen be another?
[03:32] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, most likely its installed somewhere under some other name
[03:32] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: No, because the kernel loaded 71 after the fresh install
[03:32] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, what version, btw?
[03:33] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: 7.04
[03:33] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, yeah, that's weird, ive never seen that one...
[03:33] <level1__> hi, my computer keeps hanging.  I can move the mouse, but nothing else.  I tried to log out and its not doing anything
[03:34] <level1__> I can't even kill X with alt-ctrl-backspace
[03:34] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, this was a completely fresh install, but did you import an existing home partition or anything like that?
[03:35] <level1__> this has happened several times in different situations
[03:35] <level1__> I even reinstalled and it still persists
[03:35] <hitmanWilly> level1__, have you run a memtest recently?
[03:35] <level1__> no, its a new computer
[03:36] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: btw I have found a forum on nvidia website where wrote thet a guy from nvidia corp. : This is a known problem with Ubuntu Linux; please uninstall the linux-restricted-modules package(s).
[03:36] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, huh...
[03:36] <hitmanWilly> ryaren, probably conflicts with the prepackaged ones from nvidia
[03:37] <level1__> hitmanWilly: I just ran the memtest option from the grub menu, and it gave me an erro
[03:37] <hitmanWilly> level1__, what kind of error?
[03:37] <level1__> "Error 28: Selected item cannot fit into memory"
[03:37] <level1__> then it just says press enter to continue, and it delivers me back to grub
[03:37] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: completly fresh. But I had 7.04 and 9639 nvidia driver before I did the fresh installation
[03:37] <intelikey> no free low mem ?
[03:37] <hitmanWilly> level1__, well, it sounds like a hw problem, then
[03:38] <ryaren> hitmanWilly: and I didn't meet this problem
[03:38] <level1__> hitmanWilly: defective ram, you mean?  should I RMA it and get more, or is there something more sinister going on?
[03:39] <hitmanWilly> level1__, honestly, no idea, you could call the manufacturer, but don't tell them you run linux :)
[03:39] <level1__> 2x 1GB sticks of GSkill ram, I thought that would be pretty kosher, guess not
[03:39] <intelikey> hold the phone.  if he's having trubble booting it could as easily be a bios not able to read the disk partition file-system   correctly    that would explain both
[03:39] <level1__> I'll just rma it, say DOA, but you think the ram is the only problem?  Not, say, the cpu or the motherboard
[03:40] <level1__> intelikey: no, I can boot fine... most of the time
[03:40] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, you may be right...
[03:40] <level1__> sometimes it hangs
[03:40] <intelikey> ok.   i just got here was checking.
[03:40] <hitmanWilly> but i still think it sounds like bad ram, at least in my experience
[03:41] <level1__> that would explain a lot.  I didn't know I had to test new ram
[03:41] <intelikey> probably is just like to leave no turn un stoned
[03:41] <hitmanWilly> level1__, infant mortality rate is a killer :P
[03:42] <intelikey> i'm so used to playing with hardware never less than 5 years old that if it's not doa it's good....
[03:43] <hitmanWilly> level1__, its a good idea to run any new hw through its paces to make sure there's no manufacturing defects
[03:43] <intelikey> i second that
[03:43] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, heh, build all my boxen from new parts, or at least never been used :)
[03:44] <level1__> hmmm... I tried to use a liveCD's memtest, and that's just giving me a blank screen.  It would be reassuring to see the screen come up and say "you have defective ram" rather than "error, cannot run ram test"
[03:44] <hitmanWilly> level1__, even a RAM test needs to load in RAM...:P
[03:45] <level1__> yeah, but if I can run the OS, I should be able to ram a ram test.  And I can run a full version of ubuntu, I even got compiz going
[03:45] <hitmanWilly> level1__, actually, i would open up the box and make sure everything is plugged in right and nothing shook loose during shipping
[03:45] <hitmanWilly> that's a damn good idea
[03:45] <level1__> hitmanWilly: is there a way I can narrow it down to one stick or the other, since I have two sticks?  that way I can still play with it while waiting for the replacement ram
[03:46] <evri2> Guys,i installed compiz-fusion in Kubuntu.I have a problem.Forexample,when i have 2 windows,i cannot focus on the back one.I mean forexample there are 2 konqueror and one is at the top and other is at the back.When i want to focus it,i have to click titlebar in order to focus.A click into anywhere but titlebar won't focus the windows.Any idea?
[03:46] <level1__> hitmanWilly: I built it myself, it wasn't shipped
[03:46] <hitmanWilly> level1__, is it dual channel? if not pull one out and test with just that
[03:46] <level1__> hitmanWilly: its ddr2, is that dual channel?
[03:46] <mike__> evri2: Trev's repo?
[03:47] <evri2> wait i check
[03:47] <hitmanWilly> level1__, probably not, its not that common anymore
[03:47] <level1__> hitmanWilly: what do you mean?
[03:47] <evri2> mike__: tuxfamily.org's repo eyecandy
[03:47] <hitmanWilly> level1__, try with just one stick, see what happens
[03:48] <Dragnslcr> I don't think any memory since SIMM has required pairing
[03:48] <level1__> hitmanWilly: it says "DUAL CHANNEL" in really big letters on the back of the box
[03:48] <mike__> evri2: yeah, trev's repo... i'd recommend building straight from GIT. trevino's repo is really buggy these days.
[03:48] <hitmanWilly> level1__, well, crap, that means its paired
[03:48] <Dragnslcr> I know you usually get better performance from pairing, but I don't think it's required anymore
[03:48] <adenicio> help feisty is going crazy.first thing i want to regalate is the sound i dont have no more sound
[03:48] <evri2> well can you pass any documents for building from GIT?
[03:48] <mike__> evri2: <FusioBot> A guide to building Compiz and Compiz Fusion from GIT: http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=758
[03:49] <hitmanWilly> level1, try what intelikey said, swap slots
[03:49] <evri2> mike__: thx
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: I assume it was all working before?
[03:49] <hitmanWilly> level1__, then run the memtest on that
[03:49] <mike__> evri2: follow that to a "t" and it'll be the most painless thing you ever compiled from source. :-)
[03:50] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: yea.everytime i restart feisty it give me prob asking me to run fsck then control-d
[03:50] <evri2> mike__: well mike just one question more.Will it be easy to uninstall?
[03:50] <mike__> Has anyone here gotten the KDE 4 beta yet?
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> mike__: i'm going to
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> tomorrow
[03:50] <mike__> evri2: cd to the folder for each component "sudo make uninstall" - that's it
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: are you shutting it down correctly?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: and did you recently update your kernel?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> I tried the suse livecd KDE4 ...wouldn't load
[03:51] <mike__> nosrednaekim: i noticed the update mentioned on kubuntu.org and it says it's in backports, but it seems to be umm... missng here
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> mike__: you have to slelect the "unsupported updates" checkmark
[03:52] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: well no i didnt shut it down corect and the updates i did that about 3d ago but cut it off because it was takin to long
[03:52] <intelikey> adenicio until you correct the errors it will continue to do that at boot time
[03:52] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: and im new with this kubuntu thing
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: you.. cut... off.. an update....
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: well, go finish it, that should fix somethings
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:53] <intelikey> nosrednaekim not until the fs errors are corrected too
[03:53] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: i had to cut updates i dont have dsl it was saying 6days to update
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: lol.... umm do you know anyone who does have dsl?
[03:54] <bob_sinclair> evening, are there any #kubuntu ops here, that i can talk to about an issue?
[03:54] <mike__> nosrednaekim: yeah, i did. it's not there
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> bob_sinclair: with the channel, or with kubuntu?
[03:54] <mike__> !ask | bob_sinclair
[03:54] <ubotu> bob_sinclair: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:54] <bob_sinclair> regarding a ban
[03:54] <level1__> hitmanWilly: I swapped them, but I still get the same error
[03:54] <mike__> ohh. whoops.
[03:54] <flaccid> its actually flaccid here....
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> Riddell should be able to help you
[03:55] <flaccid> an operator banned me in may. i would like to get the ban removed please
[03:55] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: not high speed i just came back to my country i forgot a lot of people etc i know only one that have dsl but it will take to long maybe 3days
[03:55] <flaccid> Riddell: heya you alive - need help with a ban
[03:55] <intelikey> adenicio you can remove the update repos and do an sudo apt-get update ;sudo apt-get upgrade     that "should" clear up the dl issue  and    you may need first  !adeptcrashfix
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: it will take too long on DSL?
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: you can send them a DL list
[03:55] <level1__> hitmanWilly: what do you think?
[03:56] <adenicio> nosrednaekim:a dl list??
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> a download list yeah.... it'll make a script for a person with DSL to download all your packages for you.
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> and they can give them to you on a USB disc or whatever
[03:57] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: but he has xp not unix
[03:57] <HayaBusa> hey guys, i just installed frost wire, but everytime i try to start it , all i see is the bouncing icon and nothing starts .. why
[03:57] <level1__> intelikey: I swapped my ram and I still get the same error, what do you think?
[03:58] <mike__> HayaBusa: you do have sun-java6-jre installed, right?
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: hmmm. you could go over and run the script off a liveCD.
[03:58] <HayaBusa> Yes
[03:58] <mike__> where'd you get the package for frostwire from?
[03:58] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: where im i its like thecnologie is way behing i told everyone about linux they watching me like wa the heck im saying
[03:58] <HayaBusa> i used to have it , but i had to uninstall it , and now i m trying to install it again after long time ,, but nothing starts, i did stop and restart KDM ..
[03:59] <HayaBusa> i got it from thier website
[03:59] <whizadree> anybody use wine ?
[03:59] <mike__> whizadree: yep
[03:59] <intelikey> level1__ hmmm  i'm still kinda leaning toward bios settings/issues    but without being there it's next to impossable for me to help with that.
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: ah, but do you think you could boot a liveCD on your friends computer which has DSL so you could get the DL's?
[03:59] <kewlsolutions> j/ateneo
[03:59] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: wont the live cd kill all my stuff like i just install vlc etc it wont put back thing to zero?
[03:59] <mike__> HayaBusa: pastebin what it says when you try running it from the terminal
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> no, boot the liveCD on your friends computer, run the script, put the files on the USB stick and bring the files back to your omputer.
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> I'm not saying to reinstall
[04:00] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: no his dsl speed is like double mine wich mine is 46kbits
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> oh, thats still not very fast,
[04:00] <HayaBusa> it says i need to upgread my JRE ..
[04:00] <level1__> intelikey: hmm... its an asus motherboard, P5B plus.
[04:01] <HayaBusa> JRE 1.5 OR newer
[04:01] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: dont feisty have option like fix boot or restore system to a date?
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: no, it does not.
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: if you don't update, you will probably have to reinstall. Which is easier?
[04:01] <flaccid> is there some kind of font viewer available to browse available/cached fonts to X ?
[04:02] <adenicio> so once feity crash u have to reinstall?
[04:02] <mike__> HayaBusa: and you're *sure* you have the package called "sun-java6-jre" installed? (run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre")
[04:02] <mike__> adenicio: no
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: it crashed because you stopped it half way through an update, which is not something that its prepared for.
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> it still runs,but everything is not working.
[04:03] <mike__> adenicio: did you not make backups?
[04:03] <HayaBusa> sun-java-jre is already the newst version .. 0 upgread 0 install 0 remove
[04:04] <mike__> HayaBusa: sorry, not sure what to tell you... you just downloaded the deb package, right, not the source?
[04:04] <intelikey> level1__ asus is 'supposed' to be good,  get in the settings and see if there is anything on "low mem" or "dos mem"   but again it wouldn't hurt to try what nosrednaekim said,  try with only one stick plugged in    that could also cause funny things to happen....   "i know it shouldn't but could"
[04:04] <adenicio> mike__: im new at this i dont know how to do back ups i read about pakage back ups but its look to complicated
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> what did I say?
[04:04] <flaccid> HayaBusa: i think you want sun-java6-jre or sun-java5-jre and also update-alternatives for java
[04:04] <flaccid> !java
[04:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:04] <HayaBusa> just deb .. this package was installed before , nothing has changed on my system . just some other programs where installed . so i have no clue
[04:04] <flaccid> see above, HayaBusa
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: you still have all your documents and all right?
[04:05] <intelikey> nosrednaekim said pull one mem stick and try it,,, didn't you ?
[04:05] <intelikey> was that someone else ?
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> I don't... think... so.
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> but I WOULD reccomend that
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[04:05] <HayaBusa> Thanks. i will try that
[04:05] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: yea but when linux start over it change up my thing in the desktop menu bar
[04:06] <bionic> good morning
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: yeah, well, back up all your documents/music/whatever.
[04:06] <whizadree> still got a few hours yet i hope (yep looks at clock)
[04:06] <bionic> until what whizadree
[04:06] <khaije1> !bluetooth
[04:06] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:06] <intelikey> maybe it was the hitmanWilly
[04:06] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: all that is on xp i use shortcut
[04:07] <whizadree> morning
[04:07] <whizadree> :)
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[04:07] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: ah, ok, great
[04:07] <intelikey> :)
[04:07] <intelikey> i am.
[04:07] <Geekosaur> dthacker: if you are still there, my system went down again - a pwer problem - and I am now up again.  Thanks for the hint lpstat led mw to it
[04:07] <bionic> racist is what a racist does
[04:07] <intelikey> i like the human race.
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> and that he has trouble remembering what he sees on a black and white text screen.
[04:08] <whizadree> who won the human race and when did it start?
[04:08] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: wa u want me to do reinstall feity?i dont tink its a posibility my dvd player is not top shap
[04:08] <dthacker> Geekosaur: great news!  yw :)
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: how did you install in the first place?
[04:08] <bionic> the whites did whizadree
[04:08] <intelikey> whizadree started long ago but it's not over yet.
[04:08] <yurimxpxman> I'm trying to encode all the wav files in a directory with lame, and lame requires a single input filename and a single output filename. I figured out how to get the input one at a time, but I don't know how to get the output names, which would be the same as the input but with the .mp3 extension instead of .wav. Any ideas? Here's what I have so far: find *.wav -print0|xargs -0 lame -V0
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> yurimxpxman: might just want to write a little script
[04:09] <whizadree> intelikey whos winning?
[04:09] <bionic> the white people
[04:10] <intelikey> the humans
[04:10] <whizadree> heh
[04:11] <intelikey> "kinda hard to argue with isn't it."
[04:11] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: the cd
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: hmmm well you might want to either try waiting 6 days for updates.... or reinstalling.
[04:12] <mike__> nosrednaekim: he already tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[04:13] <bionic> i love cock
[04:13] <bionic> i mean
[04:13] <bionic> you love cock
[04:13] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: lol at least if it possible to help me get back the sound
[04:13] <mike__> nosrednaekim: w/o an internet connection, i mean
[04:14] <bionic> adenicio: try connecting the the cord up to other jacks of the sound card
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: I'm not really going to try that.... you have a messed up system.....
[04:14] <intelikey> find /base/dir/ -type f -iname *.wav -print '{}' \; | while read Q ;do your.command $Q $Q.newext ;done       yurimxpxman
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> mike__: yeah, well,with a Dial up connection.
[04:15] <adenicio> bionic: there only one and i had the sound untill i restart the pc
[04:15] <mike__> nosrednaekim: what i mean though, is if he did it w/o *any* connection, wouldn't it just downgrade everything to the packages that are locally on his system?
[04:15] <adenicio> why is linux so hard?but its fun to play with:)
[04:16] <flaccid> linux is easy, you just have to learn it from a good source
[04:16] <mike__> adenicio: anything worth having isn't easy at first ;-)
[04:16] <ardchoille> adenicio: I have an eight year old niece who uses Linux and she says it's easy.
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> mike__: no, because the package files are not on his HD
[04:16] <mike__> lol
[04:16] <mike__> oh ok
[04:16] <flaccid> hmmm
[04:16] <flaccid> brb
[04:17] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: is it possible to get the 3d desktop with a via graphic card?
[04:17] <intelikey> ardchoille i have a 66yo mother that thinks linux is the only os...
[04:17] <adenicio> flaccid: it's not for beginners
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: its pretty complicated as far as i've heard
[04:17] <intelikey> adenicio running it or setting it up ?
[04:18] <adenicio> flaccid: i still dont understand these -a -p -v them thing look like crazyness
[04:18] <mike__> adenicio: everyone was a beginner at some point
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: read the man page for the command and you will understand what they do
[04:19] <evjunior09> Hey i need to make a slideshow with Music and such. Is there a thingy like Windows Media Player for Kubuntu?
[04:20] <intelikey> i've made up my mind, i'm going to be a beginner for the next 14.5 years and then graduate to novice
[04:20] <adenicio> intelikey: lol
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> evjunior09: I think OO can do that.
[04:21] <evjunior09> nosrednaekim: OO?
[04:21] <intelikey> oo.o
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> openoffice.
[04:21] <intelikey> dot org
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> oh, you don't mean a powerpoint?
[04:21] <whizadree> a powerpuff
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> watch your language BOY!
[04:21] <evjunior09> No, a slideshow with music
[04:22] <adenicio> !adeptcrashfix
[04:22] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:22] <intelikey> nosrednaekim heh.   is bitchx offencive ?
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> evjunior09: hmm... I don't know. Kino maybe?
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> I was kiddin
[04:23] <evjunior09> Whats Kino
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> a video editor or something.
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> !info kino
[04:23] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.92-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1126 kB, installed size 3912 kB
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> maybe not.
[04:24] <intelikey> dog gone, 4m installed... i didn't think it was that big
[04:24] <mike__> evjunior09: ManDVD can do that
[04:24] <evjunior09> Hmm... Dangit
[04:24] <bionic> ubotu your dumb
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your dumb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <evjunior09> manDVD?
[04:24] <mike__> evjunior09: you can get that at http://www.getdeb.net
[04:25] <arrautza> i'm sort of desperate... i know this is a stupid question... can anyone tell me how to make a line equation on oppenofices graphics???
[04:25] <evjunior09> mike__:cant you just apt-get it?
[04:25] <mike__> evjunior09: it wasn't in the repos last time i checked
[04:25] <ardchoille> intelikey: W00T!
[04:25] <intelikey> kino
[04:26] <bionic> kino
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> arrautza: #oo.o
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> wait.. whats the channel?
[04:26] <bionic> is there anyway i can win lotto from programming a script in linux
[04:27] <intelikey> how do you program a script ?
[04:27] <evjunior09> haha
[04:27] <bionic> you tell me
[04:27] <bionic> i mean write
[04:27] <bionic> yes
[04:27] <intelikey> oh   ooops.
[04:27] <evilmm> BASH?
[04:27] <bionic> can you right me one intelikey
[04:28] <bionic> write
[04:28] <intelikey> sure.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38699
[04:28] <intelikey> here's ya another  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38700
[04:29] <intelikey> anything else ?
[04:29] <intelikey> :)
[04:29] <bob_sinclair> i can too. echo 'Hello World!'
[04:30] <intelikey> bob_sinclair  echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\necho "hello $USER" ' > myscript.sh ;chmod 755 myscript.sh
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> and here is one in aother language http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38701
[04:31] <bob_sinclair> lol takes less effort to just type whoami
[04:31] <intelikey> nosrednaekim py ?
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> indeed
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> better than that bash junk ;)
[04:32] <intelikey> i don't play with snakes but i thought i recognized it
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> watch it... i'll sic one on you.
[04:33] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i don't normally code in "bash"   fully posix compliant here mate.
[04:33] <Maxdamantus> Just wondering.. In parted, when you use the "check" command, in the time left, does it display it as hours:minutes, or minutes:seconds?
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> excuse me "sh"
[04:33] <intelikey> :)
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> anyway, have to go all. talk to ya'll later
[04:34] <intelikey> max is it counting down slowly or quickly ?
[04:34] <intelikey> :)
[04:34] <bionic> i just made a cuppa tea
[04:34] <bionic> its rainning here
[04:34] <intelikey> i'm trolling now.
[04:35] <jryhiggins> hi
[04:35] <bionic> hi
[04:35] <jryhiggins> can someone tell me how to change my resolution?
[04:35] <bob_sinclair> jryhiggins: goto system settings | display
[04:35] <bionic> ctrl alt and backspace
[04:35] <intelikey> kmenu > system settings > monitor something > rez
[04:35] <bionic> what resolution do you use intelikey ?
[04:36] <bob_sinclair> monitor & display
[04:36] <intelikey> that's it
[04:36] <bionic> what resolution do think is the best
[04:36] <jryhiggins> it wont let me set it higher than 640x800
[04:36] <bionic> download the drivers
[04:36] <bob_sinclair> jryhiggins: need to set video driver then
[04:36] <BluesKaj> prolly need admin mode to change the resolution
[04:36] <intelikey> bionic current SHELLTYPE: BASH  @  80 x 25
[04:36] <Littleboots> eh
[04:36] <bionic> ahha
[04:37] <jryhiggins> yeah i cant seam to find the right restricted module to set nvidia driver up, i know the tutorial like the back of my hand, any suggestions?
[04:37] <intelikey> 640x800 ???    </blinks>
[04:37] <bob_sinclair> jryhiggins: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new nvidia-kernel-common
[04:37] <jryhiggins> im running fiesty. on an amd 32bit +3200
[04:37] <jryhiggins> the card is an mx440
[04:38] <Littleboots> you don't get the nvidia splash screen before X starts?
[04:38] <intelikey> bob_sinclair 24" short screens   ;/
[04:38] <_ron> anyone know why I'm now getting a mimetype error after doing updates?  I'm guessing a package didn't install correctly, but don't know which one
[04:39] <bob_sinclair> if you change kernel versions, you have to reinstall the video driver as nvidia is a kernel mod (blob)
[04:39] <jryhiggins> yeah what restricted module do i need?
[04:39] <bob_sinclair> intelikey: im just lucky i didn't have to pay for them
[04:39] <_ron> and I have no KDE icons anywhere
[04:39] <Littleboots> =0
[04:39] <bionic> me to
[04:40] <bob_sinclair> jryhiggins: the one that comes in the packages. all you need to do resinstall/install nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-kernel-common ..
[04:40] <bob_sinclair> !nvidia
[04:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:40] <intelikey> i wish my nvidia card was supported
[04:40] <bob_sinclair> or just follow that...
[04:40] <bob_sinclair> i wish ati would get their fingers out of their um behind
[04:41] <jryhiggins> i allready know that..... but thnx, i just need to know what restricted module i need...
[04:41] <Littleboots> also, make sure to set your monitor to something besides "generic monitor" or what ever
[04:41] <Littleboots> even after I installed my drivers I couldn't change the res untill I did that
[04:41] <bob_sinclair> jryhiggins: why do you need to know what. you need the restricted mod for nvidia. its all on the page above.
[04:41] <jryhiggins> Littleboots: you mean in the xorg.conf? what do you mean by "set"
[04:41] <jryhiggins> ?
[04:42] <Littleboots> kmenu->system settings->display
[04:42] <Littleboots> then.. hold on
[04:42] <bob_sinclair> you don't have to do it in xorg.conf, system settings can do that for you via gui
[04:42] <jryhiggins> bob_sinclair: becuas ei have tried them all individually and none seam to work.
[04:42] <Littleboots> then goto the hardware tab
[04:42] <bob_sinclair> jryhiggins: if you would just do what i say and reinstall those two packages. it will work and if it doesn't you need to cite an error message or something..
[04:42] <_ron> anyone know which KDE package contains the info about mimetypes and the display icons?
[04:43] <whizadree> is there away of skipping the network card on load with the livecd
[04:43] <bob_sinclair> trying to install a restricted mod manually is not going to get you anywhere..
[04:43] <level1__> intelikey, hitmanWilly: if your still there, I'm running the memtest86 cd, and its about 47% finished, no errors yet.
[04:43] <BluesKaj> ron , right click on the app icon, choose properties , click the iconand a choice dailog will pop up
[04:44] <intelikey> level1__ did you change anything in bios ?      just curious.
[04:44] <Skeith> When installing the KDE4 beta, I don't understand how to do the export commands
[04:44] <whizadree> darn
[04:44] <whizadree> lighting storm
[04:44] <BluesKaj> _ron:  did you get that ?
[04:45] <_ron> BluesKaj....my problem is I ran adept_manager and after the updates I have no icons anywhere and everytime a application starts I get a mime type error of some sort
[04:45] <jryhiggins> anotheer thing, my tool bar that is defualt with kubuntu, the one with the KDE menu on it, has dissapeared, how do i fix this?
[04:46] <intelikey> kicker
[04:46] <_ron> so reselecting an single icon is not a solution...I can't spend the time doing that for every menu entry
[04:46] <bob_sinclair> run kicker command
[04:46] <jryhiggins> intelikey: your telling me if kicker isnt running, the taskbar wont show?
[04:46] <intelikey> jryhiggins kicker is the taskbar
[04:46] <Level15> jryhiggins: well, kicker IS the taskbar... along with another couple of things
[04:47] <jryhiggins> thank you ill check on the service
[04:47] <Skeith> I think I'm missing something simple with the KDE4 beta installation, but it tells me to run some export commands but I don't know what to do
[04:47] <bob_sinclair> there are kicker alternatives however
[04:47] <jryhiggins> says kicker is allready running
[04:47] <intelikey> he did say "my tool bar that is defualt with kubuntu"
[04:47] <bob_sinclair> indeed
[04:47] <bob_sinclair> people like options :)
[04:48] <intelikey> jryhiggins      killall kicker ;kicker
[04:48] <Level15> options are fine... but i think havin *so* many of them in the FOSS is preventing linux from growing stronger on the desktop...
[04:49] <Littleboots> yeah, I can see that
[04:49] <intelikey> Level15 could be.   if so i'm glad it's not growing.
[04:49] <_ron> so no one knows which KDE package contains the icon set?
[04:49] <Littleboots> too many options can be overwelming
[04:49] <bob_sinclair> Level15: pretty much
[04:49] <Level15> it's... sad
[04:49] <bob_sinclair> its growing everyday
[04:49] <Skeith> who do I ask for help for the beta 1 install?
[04:49] <BluesKaj> sorry _ron , I don't understand, what about just adding the apps to the desktop again ?
[04:50] <bob_sinclair> and the ubuntu-doc team still don't think a single handbook is a good idea. they would rather duplication in the wiki...
[04:50] <jryhiggins> intelikey: kicker is running, what else could it be? and whats the best way to check my services?
[04:50] <bob_sinclair> jryhiggins: check that kicker is not hidden - coz you can do that
[04:50] <Level15> here's a solution for people who completely broke their KDE... mv .kde .kdeold, then logout and back in...
[04:50] <jryhiggins> bob_sinclair: and hopw do i do that?
[04:50] <bob_sinclair> Level15: thats a bad suggestion if you wanna keep your profile
[04:51] <_ron> BluesKaj: imagine your desktop (the menus and everything) with no icons at all....nada....my kicker is entirely grey with not a single icon on it
[04:51] <intelikey> jryhiggins did you try killing it and restarting it ?    are you running beryl or compiz ?    when did this start, what had you done ?     info please.
[04:51] <bob_sinclair> jryhiggins: there is usually a arrow on the side of the kicker to move back on the screen depending how you made it look
[04:51] <Level15> yeah, but damn efective to give you a clean start ;)
[04:51] <Littleboots> does apt keep track of changes so they can be "undone"?
[04:51] <jryhiggins> bob_sinclair: lol, no man its Not there, lol not hidden but not there
[04:51] <bob_sinclair> Level15: it doesn't fix anything...
[04:51] <Level15> Littleboots: well, you can uninstall packages...
[04:51] <_ron> BluesKaj: this happened after I ran the adept_manager and did updates on a fresh install
[04:51] <Littleboots> I'm asking for his problem ^
[04:52] <bob_sinclair> jryhiggins: perhaps #kde can help you further. when its hidden with no arrows on the side you won't see it at all..
[04:52] <Littleboots> I doubt he has a mental list of the updates apt did
[04:52] <Level15> bob_sinclair: if u say so...
[04:52] <_ron> BluesKaj: so now I'm trying to figure out what packages to try to force the system to reinstall to get the system back to normal
[04:52] <bob_sinclair> Level15: i'd rather find the problem and fix it, rather than loose everything i've customised and saved etc.
[04:52] <intelikey> Littleboots in /etc/log/dpkg.log
[04:53] <Littleboots> cool
[04:53] <bob_sinclair> its a large sacrifice
[04:53] <Level15> bob_sinclair: yeah, but not everybody is willing to dive into .kde and find what to change...
[04:53] <_ron> I have to say I think the adept_manager needs a little more resiliency built into it compared to other distributions update managers I've used
[04:53] <Littleboots> so next question, is there any way to tell apt to un-update what it updated?
[04:53] <intelikey> bob yeah it wouldn't be possable to reproduce this system from scratch
[04:53] <Level15> Littleboots: not that i know of
[04:53] <Littleboots> I use aptitude _ron
[04:53] <bob_sinclair> Level15: you don't have to. and there is #kubuntu and #kde for help
[04:53] <Littleboots> I like it a little better
[04:54] <level1__> intelikey: I change a few things in the bios, I don't remember what.  Maybe I can look and see if I can fix it?  or do bioses usually have a "reset to defaults" feature?
[04:54] <_ron> Littleboots: little late now...adept_manager has already broke my system....now I need to fix it or reinstall
[04:54] <level1__> Level15: we sohuld be freinds
[04:54] <intelikey> Littleboots oh and aptitude keeps a seperate record too
[04:54] <Level15> level1__: yeah, we should :P
[04:54] <Level15> level1__: how did you choose your nicK?
[04:54] <flaccid> its me intelikey. flaccid is actually banned here coz if an ignorant op
[04:54] <BluesKaj> _ron: ctrl+alt+F2, then after entering this command ;' sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a '
[04:55] <intelikey> level1__ most do have a "defaults" setting   or  reset feture
[04:55] <intelikey> lol
[04:55] <Level15> flaccid: well... i've found some settings to be rather cryptic under .kde... specially some konqueror stuff
[04:55] <level1__> Level15: I'm bad a video games, and a freind said that I play like a level 1 computer
[04:55] <intelikey> flaccid wow    lol  that one got me....    :)
[04:55] <BluesKaj> _ron: then ctrl+alt+F7 to return to the desktop
[04:55] <flaccid> Level15: totally. but you don't look there. you look in kde startup log
[04:55] <Level15> level1__: lol! i chose mine b/c of cisco admin levels
[04:56] <Level15> flaccid: haven't tried that. Will do next time i break up something :P
[04:56] <_ron> BluesKaj: that's not the problem....my dpkg "thinks" everything is fine....somewhere the packages just aren't right
[04:56] <_ron> I ran it though....no output
[04:56] <Level15> _ron: what are the symptoms, exactly?
[04:57] <flaccid> anybody here know LjL, thats the person that banned me heh
[04:57] <flaccid> an op that never helps heh
[04:57] <intelikey> flaccid is there actually a ban you need addressed ?
[04:57] <flaccid> yeah
[04:57] <_ron> Level15: I have no icons anywhere on my desktop...kicker, kicker menu, they are all gone....and I get a mime type error whenever I run an application
[04:57] <flaccid> its a rangeband on my whole domain at home
[04:57] <intelikey> k let me see if i can do anything.   but i promice nothing.
[04:57] <BluesKaj> flaccid:  that lasdt remark din't help your cause
[04:58] <flaccid> BluesKaj: then what will
[04:58] <Level15> dude... try logging in with a new user to see if the problem comes from your particular user config or it's a problem with kde itself
[04:58] <_ron> well it was working fine until adept_manager updated my system
[04:58] <flaccid> Level15: thats a more gradual approach, nice :)
[04:59] <Level15> flaccid: well, yeah, i just suggested cleaning everything up... doesn't mean i regularly do it ;)
[04:59] <Level15> i did have to do it once b/c konq was completely messed up...
[04:59] <Level15> but i just removed everything konq related
[04:59] <flaccid> looking at logs/output of startkde will usually pinpoint the problem and you don't have to guess
[05:00] <level1__> intelikey: memtest86 did not find any errors, so maybe it isn't my ram
[05:00] <Level15> well, last time i looked at startkde output was with kde 2 or something, and they were pretty... noisy, so to speak
[05:00] <Level15> level1__: what are you fighting against?
[05:01] <flaccid> googling errors from startkde usually helps a lot
[05:01] <Level15> hey, i can add more physical volumes to a volume group, right? and after that, i can extend a logical volume to use them, right?
[05:02] <level1__> Level15: well, I've had some weird errors, hangups and stuff, and some of the guys thought it sounded like defective ram
[05:03] <Level15> level1__: do you run other OSs there?
[05:06] <Skeith> I'm having problems running the KDE4 beta 1, when I try and start it from kdm it crashes back to kdm
[05:06] <Littleboots> =(
[05:08] <Skeith> I edited the xessions file and put the export commands, but it still crashes
[05:08] <BluesKaj> Skeith, i couldn't even get the live cd to run ...dunno why
[05:09] <Skeith> thanks
[05:10] <Level15> ./navigator-bin
[05:10] <Level15> bash: ./navigator-bin: No such file or directory
[05:10] <Level15> the file IS there...
[05:10] <Level15> i can ls it
[05:10] <Level15> bash completes the name...
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> Level15, try with sh
[05:10] <Level15> ideas?
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> Level15, ie sh ./navigator-bin
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> Level15, or chmod +x it
[05:11] <rexman> !help
[05:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:11] <Level15> it is executable, and is not a script so "sh" is not good idea
[05:12] <Level15> this is bizarre...
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> Level15, you could try with exec
[05:13] <Level15> didn't work...
[05:13] <Level15> hmmm
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> Level15, you sure its perms are set correctly?
[05:13] <Level15> i think it's b/c it's a 32 bit executable on my 64 bit kubuntu... the strange thing is that it ran before i reinstalled
[05:13] <adenicio> r
[05:13] <Level15> -rwxr-xr-x 1 ejortegau ejortegau 12405396 2007-07-10 13:26 navigator-bin
[05:15] <Juno> should I get fiesty or dapper?
[05:16] <Level15> Juno: whant LTS?
[05:16] <Level15> *want
[05:17] <Juno> not exactly sure what LTS refers to.  are they not going to continue updating fiesty?
[05:17] <intelikey> flaccid i looked and don't see that ip in any b class bans
[05:18] <Level15> Juno: yes, but not for 5 years...
[05:18] <Level15> i actually dunno how long will they be maintaining it
[05:18] <Juno> so dapper is almost like a permanent build?
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> !lts | juno
[05:18] <ubotu> juno: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:18] <rexman> can anyone support me please, i am in Kubuntu dapper 64 bits and i would like to go to feigdty without downloading it again how can i dist upgrade i used gksu "update-manager -c" and nothing happens
[05:19] <guyllfyre> Hi, I'm feeling like a bit of a retard but I can't figure out an easy way tp access and/or eject the CD-ROM in Kubuntu.
[05:19] <Level15> guyllfyre: try eject
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> rexman, upgrade to edgy first
[05:19] <guyllfyre> I can get to it via media/cdrom0
[05:19] <guyllfyre> Try eject where?
[05:19] <rexman> hitmanWilly: how can i do that?? :/ please help i am a noob
[05:19] <Level15> console
[05:19] <guyllfyre> Don'
[05:20] <guyllfyre> Don't wish to type each time I want to eject a CD.
[05:20] <intelikey> rexman gksu ?     gnome ?
[05:20] <guyllfyre> Media centeric, mouse actions.
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> rexman, did you try the tutorial?
[05:20] <Level15> guyllfyre:  well, when you insert a CD, a CD icon should show up in your desktop
[05:20] <rexman> intelikey: i am usin kubuntu, and i downloaded gksu, but it doesnt do a thing
[05:20] <rexman> hitmanWilly: yes...
[05:20] <guyllfyre> I don't get a CD icon on my desktop.
[05:20] <Level15> guyllfyre: what version are you running?
[05:20] <intelikey> rexman kdesu blah
[05:21] <guyllfyre> I can access it only via /media/cdrom0
[05:21] <guyllfyre> 7.04
[05:21] <flaccid> intelikey: i see it in the ban list as *!*@hardtrance.biz
[05:21] <guyllfyre> It's a CD-RW + DVD-ROM
[05:21] <guyllfyre> Combo drive.
[05:21] <intelikey> flaccid ok i guess i just overlooked it.
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> rexman, substitute kdesu for gksu whenever it comes up
[05:21] <Juno> why arent there any american servers to download kubuntu from?
[05:21] <flaccid> intelikey: was on 12/05
[05:22] <Level15> guyllfyre: weirdo...
[05:22] <guyllfyre> I can't get a search to find the problem I'm having on the forums.
[05:22] <guyllfyre> Was hoping someone could help.
[05:22] <guyllfyre> Or google..
[05:22] <rexman> kdesu it is not found neithwer in repos or installed, hitmanWilly
[05:22] <Level15> well, i guess you can link or something, then right click to eject
[05:22] <rexman> neither*
[05:22] <Level15> or maybe your desktop is configured not to show icons
[05:22] <guyllfyre> How do I make it show icons?
[05:22] <guyllfyre> I couldn't find that setting.
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> rexman, kdesu? that comes with kubuntu by default
[05:23] <rexman> hitmanWilly: oh sorry my bad yes it is
[05:23] <guyllfyre> It's bare except the Windows share I mounted in my fstab.
[05:23] <intelikey> rexman you can test in a konsole      gksu echo yes       or any of the sudo apps for that matter   sudo echo yes    if your sudo is working it asks password and says yes
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> typo?
[05:23] <rexman> intelikey: in console it gives me some GLX errors, and in command line nothing happens
[05:23] <Level15> guyllfyre: is there an icon on the desktop?
[05:23] <intelikey> konsole  not console
[05:23] <guyllfyre> Yes
[05:24] <whizadree> is there a better installer other than adept
[05:24] <guyllfyre> It's my mounted share for my Windows server drive.
[05:24] <Level15> guyllfyre: is there a CD on the CD drive?
[05:24] <guyllfyre> There is a DVD in the drive currently.
[05:24] <rexman> intelikey: same thing :), the black thingy were you write :3
[05:24] <intelikey> konsole = terminal emulator for the kde     console = tty   or  virtual terminal.
[05:24] <Level15> DVD like data DVD?
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, either apt-get or aptitude from cli, or synaptic from gui
[05:24] <guyllfyre> Mov
[05:24] <guyllfyre> eMovie
[05:24] <intelikey> not the same
[05:24] <intelikey> not even close really
[05:25] <Level15> guyllfyre: plz insert a data CD/DVD... just to try
[05:25] <guyllfyre> But a DVD movie is just a data DVD.
[05:25] <intelikey> konsole runs in kde while kde is running in xorg which is running in a console
[05:25] <rexman> intelikey: okey my bad...... but it doesnt work :) neither way
[05:25] <Level15> guyllfyre: dunno really
[05:25] <guyllfyre> Well, how do I eject the DVD now?
[05:25] <guyllfyre> Wait
[05:25] <guyllfyre> Console
[05:25] <Level15> yup
[05:26] <intelikey> rexman then i sujest you have a broken   'root jr.' account.    i.e.  you are not in the admin group or your /etc/sudoers file is hosed
[05:26] <guyllfyre> Grabbing the keyboard is inconvenient when I'm lying here in bed.
[05:26] <intelikey> assumes defaults   ^
[05:26] <rexman> intelikey: ........ okey....
[05:26] <guyllfyre> OK, threw a CD in
[05:26] <guyllfyre> Data CD.
[05:26] <guyllfyre> Nothing showed up on the desktop.
[05:27] <Level15> that sucks...
[05:27] <Level15> hmm
[05:27] <Juno> is there an american mirror where I can download kubuntu?
[05:27] <guyllfyre> Can't browse it either.
[05:27] <Level15> suboptimal, but try this: right click on desktop, new link to device
[05:27] <intelikey> rexman simple answer,  you reboot to single user mode or boot a live CD   or boot to init=/bin/bash (the later is not for the novice)     and correct the problem.
[05:28] <kalorin`> guyllfyre: are you running an ATI Video card?
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> guyllfyre, i suspect the problem is with fstab
[05:28] <guyllfyre> nVidia video card.
[05:28] <guyllfyre> Quadra 64M
[05:28] <kalorin`> hitmanWilly: I had an ATI card until last night and it never showed drives on the desktop for me
[05:28] <kalorin`> ah
[05:29] <kalorin`> btw, those acer x221wd screens suck compared to the viewsonic 226bw's I picked up tonight
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> guyllfyre, can you pastebin /etc/fstab please?
[05:29] <kalorin`> side by side was ugly for the acer as far as color depth
[05:29] <guyllfyre> Well, adding the icon to the desktop made the access easier.
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> !paste guyllfyre
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste guyllfyre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <Level15> hitmanWilly: don't think so... flash drives are not on fstab and they create icons on desktop...
[05:29] <guyllfyre> Works fine for me.
[05:29] <kalorin`> 3000:1 contrast is no joke
[05:29] <Level15> this just proves my absolute ignorance about HAL, DBUS and KDE :D
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> Level15, no, but anything in fstab that's set up correctly should show on the desktop
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> then again, im no guru on the automounting subject either :P
[05:30] <raylu> can someone help me set up samba and swat with xinetd?
[05:31] <intelikey> hitmanWilly that assumes default desktop settings.   you can switch on/off device icons
[05:31] <guyllfyre> Sorry, I'm not pasting my fstab.
[05:31] <guyllfyre> The icon on the desktop is good enough for now.
[05:31] <guyllfyre> Thank you.
[05:31] <Level15> guyllfyre: ok
[05:31] <Level15> ./navigator-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, sorry, just assumed the default setup
[05:31] <Level15> now, where do i get that thingy from?
[05:31] <raylu> !gtk
[05:31] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[05:31] <whizadree> was someone asking about NTFS , cause have they tried using the NTFS Config tool ?
[05:32] <raylu> !info gtk | Level15
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> Level15, that's where the 64 vs 32 bit comes into play
[05:32] <ubotu> level15: Package gtk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:32] <raylu> o.0, oops
[05:32] <guyllfyre> When you mount Windows Shares.
[05:32] <Level15> guyllfyre: good point
[05:32] <guyllfyre> Which require information about usernames and locations of password files.
[05:32] <intelikey> windows is it's own security hole....
[05:32] <Level15> !libgtk-x11
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgtk-x11 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <Level15> !libgtk
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <Level15> crap
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[05:33] <guyllfyre> I use 2k, 2l\k3, and XP.
[05:33] <guyllfyre> Windows is fine if you're not a moron.
[05:33] <MaTiAz> yeah
[05:33] <kalorin`> guns don't kill people, people kill people.... windows doesn't hack windows, people hack windows :)
[05:33] <Level15> i know there's  some 32 library that i can use... only problem is i don't know which one...
[05:33] <MaTiAz> :)
[05:34] <guyllfyre> I run 3 month uptimes on XP workstations.
[05:34] <guyllfyre> To ach his own.
[05:34] <kalorin`> I do on XP vmware instances :)
[05:34] <guyllfyre> My usual box is XP.
[05:34] <guyllfyre> But I've decided that I'm not going Vista.
[05:34] <moron2> i ran a pentium I @100 MHz for 10 months as email server...
[05:34] <guyllfyre> It's been the kick in the pants to actually settle on a distro instead of just playing.
[05:34] <kalorin`> guyllfyre: I did that a few months back :)
[05:34] <whizadree> no way , stay well away from vista
[05:35] <guyllfyre> And learn a bit more about Linux.
[05:35] <guyllfyre> I'm heading to bed.
[05:35] <moron3> what, the continuous phoning home or the MASSIVE bloat?
[05:35] <whizadree> a bit///?
[05:35] <guyllfyre> Thank you for the help.
[05:35] <intelikey> guyllfyre i have one word for you    E.U.L.A.   read it sometime.   you'll never use windows again.
[05:35] <guyllfyre> EULA is not legally enforcable in most courts.
[05:35] <Littleboots> well
[05:35] <guyllfyre> They're onerous but just lame mostly.
[05:35] <whizadree> EULA - sell your soul and everything else to satan
[05:35] <guyllfyre> I've read chunks of it.
[05:35] <Littleboots> EULA s aren't laws but..
[05:36] <Littleboots> I'm sure MS could get there way in court
[05:36] <guyllfyre> Nobody abides and they don't stand up.
[05:36] <Littleboots> *their
[05:36] <moron2> Littleboots: sure, they can bribe the judge... again
[05:36] <guyllfyre> H||They haven't yet.
[05:36] <guyllfyre> Not when it comes to the EULA.
[05:36] <whizadree> well thats because of money
[05:36] <kalorin`> why bribe
[05:36] <raylu> they don't need to
[05:36] <whizadree> not the EULA
[05:36] <kalorin`> you ca'nt afford the legal battle
[05:36] <raylu> just suing means that you'll probably end up settling (what kalorin` said)
[05:36] <intelikey> so if everyone else shoots their self in the foot will you ?
[05:36] <kalorin`> they'd just suck you dry over time with infinite staff lawyers and continuances
[05:36] <moron3> guyllfyre, ok, but it doesn't matter if you win or not when your legal fees start to stack up
[05:36] <raylu> intelikey, if i get enough xp for it, yes
[05:37] <intelikey> raylu gamer
[05:37] <intelikey> :)
[05:37] <zimmo> intelikey: i solved my problem three hours trying to find out what was happening haha
[05:37] <guyllfyre> And when's the last time MS came after you weilding the EULA?
[05:37] <guyllfyre> They go copyright first.
[05:37] <zimmo> relieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeef man!
[05:37] <guyllfyre> Heh
[05:37] <guyllfyre> 'night guys.
[05:37] <raylu> so, anyone want to help me set up samba?
[05:38] <kalorin`> nah I gotta take a nap and then be in at 2am
[05:38] <kalorin`> almost not worth taking the nap at this point :(
[05:38] <kalorin`> sucks
[05:38] <kalorin`> physically go down to the office
[05:38] <kalorin`> who ever heard of such a thing!
[05:38] <whizadree> i never do
[05:38] <whizadree> my office is my laptop
[05:38] <kalorin`> heh
[05:38] <kalorin`> <---- data systems manageer
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, must be nice...
[05:39] <kalorin`> not allow to physically  move the machines or install anything on them
[05:39] <whizadree> Virtual Network Admin <<<<
[05:39] <kalorin`> I just am responsible for everything related to thier well being
[05:39] <intelikey> guyllfyre the last time i tried to install anything made by M$      doesn't matter if anyone knows whether or not i abide by the agreement,  i'm not going to purger myself,   the question is  "do you accept these terms or not"    the answer is NO   and when you click the yes and continue you are lying and making your self a lier and purgered person.
[05:39] <kalorin`> intelikey: I'm ok with lying to them
[05:39] <kalorin`> :)
[05:40] <raylu> when ms declare they were not a party to the gpl, a lot of slashdotters posted that
[05:40] <intelikey> kalorin` you are ok with being a lier ?
[05:40] <raylu> they weren't a party to the ms eula
[05:40] <raylu> *declared
[05:40] <kalorin`> intelikey: well, I'm just treating them how they treat me
[05:40] <kalorin`> they lied first :)
[05:40] <whizadree> you just say you have a problem where yes means no and no means yes
[05:40] <intelikey> kalorin` and you are ok with being a lier ?
[05:40] <intelikey> see my point.
[05:40] <raylu> kalorin`, if a man shoots you in the head, do you shoot him back? :P
[05:40] <intelikey> i'll drop it now.
[05:41] <kalorin`> notice my windows box is a vmware instance at work
[05:41] <kalorin`> raylu, hpoefully I notice he's GOING to shoot me in the head and shoot first
[05:41] <kalorin`> and I'm only runing XP on that for outlook and informatica tools (both of which are windows only)
[05:41] <raylu> more importantly, what do the flags in xinetd mean?
[05:42] <intelikey> and one other thing      speed limit  does not mean "lower limit"   just for those of you that always try to stay just above it....
[05:42] <Littleboots> kinda like the lines in the middle of the road aren't suggestions?
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i break the speed limit all the time, just I don't complain when I get pulled over for it
[05:43] <intelikey> there are a lot just like you hitmanWilly
[05:43] <kalorin`> ok nap time
[05:43] <whizadree> a nap ....
[05:43] <whizadree> whats a nap
[05:43] <kalorin`> <---- like willy
[05:43] <raylu> kalorin`, is changing runlevels, that's all
[05:43] <kalorin`> free willy
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, the difference is im willing to accept the consequences of my actions, not try to wrangle out of them
[05:44] <raylu> and how do i configure a port for xinetd?
[05:44] <intelikey> whizadree that rest between last typed and what happened to my computer == nap
[05:44] <whizadree> more like kwilly
[05:44] <ubuntu> i need help
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, actually, i use window maker :P
[05:44] <ubuntu> download a plugin for konquer
[05:44] <ubuntu> downloading
[05:44] <ubuntu> i got it downloaded
[05:44] <ubuntu> but it wont' open
[05:45] <ubuntu> its for buzzen chat
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, so kwilly is somewhat inaccurate :)
[05:45] <ubuntu> or something like that
[05:45] <ubuntu> its a exe
[05:45] <Littleboots> ...
[05:45] <ubuntu> and wont' open too install
[05:45] <Littleboots> troll?
[05:45] <intelikey> hitmanWilly difference in ?     heh like i said there are a lot just like you.     "laws are made to be broken"  and  "don't do the crime if you can't do the time"    attitudes....
[05:46] <ubuntu> can someone help me?
[05:46] <Level15> !ask
[05:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:46] <intelikey> been there, don't that.    new leaf now.
[05:46] <intelikey> ubuntu with ?
[05:46] <ubuntu> i need too know how too open a exe file
[05:46] <Littleboots> ubuntu: if the file as a "*.exe" extension its probably a win32 executable
[05:46] <ubuntu> if it can be done on linux?
[05:46] <raylu> ubuntu, what is buzzen chat?
[05:46] <Level15> finally got my navigator running...
[05:46] <ubuntu> ill show ya
[05:46] <intelikey> ubuntu    install wine   and    wine /path/to/filename.exe
[05:47] <whizadree> anyone here ever heard of tkedit and tkview?
[05:47] <raylu> intelikey, <ubuntu> download a plugin for konquer
[05:47] <ubuntu> http://www.buzzen.com/chat/chatwithfirefox.php
[05:47] <ubuntu> that is wat it is
[05:47] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. Is it possible to mount a temporary fs directly from the RAM?
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> Level15, lemme guess, a LOT of linking :)
[05:47] <ubuntu> but its pointing to firefox plugin
[05:47] <intelikey> buuntu  but you don't what that.
[05:47] <ubuntu> i dunno y
[05:47] <mecannotread> ubuntu  to open the file exe you need to install wine
[05:47] <Level15> hitmanWilly: nah, just finding the name of the frigging 32 bit library i needed...
[05:47] <ubuntu> oh alright
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> ahhh
[05:47] <Level15> after that was just apt-get install
[05:48] <ubuntu> can i get that that from going too
[05:48] <intelikey> cause you want something from the repos to do that
[05:48] <Littleboots> google =p
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> ive really got to start looking into setting up a multi-arch install
[05:48] <ubuntu> well u know
[05:48] <ubuntu> the package install thing
[05:48] <intelikey> like mozilla-chat or what ever
[05:48] <intelikey> yep
[05:48] <ubuntu> thats built into
[05:48] <ubuntu> kubuntu?
[05:48] <intelikey> !repos | ubuntu
[05:48] <ubotu> ubuntu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:48] <raylu> intelikey, it looks nonstandard
[05:48] <raylu> ubuntu, i think you want http://www.buzzen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11491
[05:48] <raylu> to wine that ^
[05:48] <ubuntu> aight thanks
[05:48] <ubuntu> for ur help
[05:49] <intelikey> raylu does it do something kopete can't ?
[05:49] <intelikey> raylu does it do something konversation can't ?     maybe
[05:49] <Level15> anyone here with a dell xps m1210?
[05:50] <ubuntu> nope own a dell tho
[05:50] <ubuntu> lol
[05:50] <Level15> ubuntu:  does it have a webcam?
[05:50] <ubuntu> yes it do
[05:51] <ubuntu> mines ghetto
[05:51] <ubuntu> style
[05:51] <ubuntu> lol
[05:51] <ubuntu> back in the day
[05:51] <ubuntu> but it has xp
[05:51] <ubuntu> i upgraded it
[05:51] <raylu> intelikey, i don't know; i dont use it
[05:51] <Level15> ubuntu: does it work on linux?
[05:51] <ubuntu> yup it does
[05:51] <ubuntu> i have a
[05:51] <ubuntu> dell gxa
[05:52] <Level15> hey youtube is down!
[05:52] <ubuntu> 17 inch monitor
[05:52] <ubuntu> ati
[05:52] <ubuntu> and creative sound blaster card
[05:52] <ubuntu> lol
[05:52] <Level15> ubuntu: could you provide details on the webcam to see if it's the same i have?
[05:52] <ubuntu> myspace was down too
[05:52] <ubuntu> i'm having troubles gettin it
[05:52] <Level15> really? weirdo
[05:52] <ubuntu> now utube wtf?
[05:52] <intelikey> !enter | ubuntu and you use enter a lot too
[05:52] <ubotu> ubuntu and you use enter a lot too: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:52] <whizadree> yup true Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
[05:53] <ubuntu> may bad
[05:53] <ubuntu> my
[05:53] <ubuntu> lol
[05:53] <raylu> o.0!
[05:53] <intelikey> ping 1.1.1.1
[05:54] <ubuntu> so is utube up yet?
[05:54] <intelikey> heh sudo ping 127.0.0.1      good response time there.
[05:54] <ubuntu> i wonder y they took it down
[05:54] <jhutchins> Destination net unreachable.
[05:54] <ubuntu> maybe cause all the illegal stuff
[05:54] <ubuntu> lmfao
[05:54] <intelikey> jhutchins slightly
[05:58] <kewlsolutions> j/ateneo
[06:00] <ubuntu> k back i downloaded the tar file for wine and opened it with ark
[06:00] <ubuntu> wats next?
[06:00] <raylu> ubuntu, what'd you download?
[06:00] <Level15> ubuntu: why did you do that? install packages from ubuntu
[06:00] <ubuntu> i downloaded wine the tar file
[06:00] <Level15> use adept or whatever
[06:00] <raylu> o.0
[06:00] <ubuntu> i'm not using ubuntu
[06:00] <raylu> what are you using?
[06:00] <ubuntu> kubuntu
[06:00] <ubuntu> lol
[06:00] <raylu> ...
[06:00] <raylu> adept is in kubuntu
[06:00] <ubuntu> oh alright
[06:01] <ubuntu> so just go too adept installer?
[06:01] <raylu> and a package manager for ubuntu/gtk would work in kubuntu anyway
[06:01] <raylu> yes
[06:01] <Level15> ubuntu: 64 bits?
[06:01] <ubuntu> aight
[06:01] <ubuntu> i c
[06:01] <ubuntu> ill do that
[06:01] <Level15> !wine
[06:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:01] <raylu> =\ they didn't even explain the acronym
[06:01] <raylu> who's coolness is rivaled only by the app itself
[06:01] <Level15> lol
[06:01] <ardchoille> wine = Wine Is Not and Emulator
[06:02] <whizadree> has anyone tried running aircrack
[06:02] <ardchoille> raylu: How's that?
[06:02] <raylu> how's what?
[06:02] <Maxdamantus> ardchoille, no, Wine = Win emu
[06:02] <ardchoille> raylu: The acronym
[06:02] <Level15> i love this amarok thingy
[06:02] <raylu> the coolness of the acronym?
[06:02] <ardchoille> Maxdamantus: lol
[06:02] <ubuntu> me 2
[06:02] <Maxdamantus> Why not call it something like "Zine" if that was the case?
[06:02] <Maxdamantus> It would still make sense.
[06:03] <adenicio> i  dont know how but feity fix his self without telling me the prob
[06:03] <Maxdamantus> Zine Is Not an Emulator
[06:03] <Level15> Maxdamantus: b/c it does not offer a compatibility layer for Zindows
[06:03] <adenicio> wa is it?
[06:03] <raylu> LOL
[06:03] <whizadree> Mine
[06:03] <bor_z> sdakjfcsakfj
[06:03] <raylu> Maxdamantus, because the original name was what you said
[06:03] <raylu> but i suppose you knew that
[06:03] <Maxdamantus> You can't use an Acronym inside it's self.
[06:03] <adenicio> !zindow
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zindow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <intelikey> wine is wine is not an emulator
[06:03] <Maxdamantus> raylu, yes, I know.
[06:03] <raylu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/recursive_acronym
[06:03] <ubuntu> zindows lol nice
[06:03] <jhutchins> Maxdamantus: That's the whole point.
[06:04] <raylu> Maxdamantus, click ^
[06:04] <jhutchins> recursive acronyms.
[06:04] <jhutchins> Maxdamantus: What does GNU stand for?
[06:04] <raylu> !lindos
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lindos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <raylu> !lindows
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <raylu> :(
[06:04] <Maxdamantus> GNU  GNU's Not Unix
[06:04] <adenicio> intelikey: in a way u can say wine is an emulator
[06:04] <raylu> TINA Is Not an Acronym
[06:04] <Maxdamantus> jhutchins, That's incorrect.. I think.
[06:04] <intelikey> but it isnt'
[06:04] <jhutchins> Maxdamantus: Splat.
[06:04] <ardchoille> raylu: lol
[06:04] <intelikey> adenicio it's an aplication layer  not an emulator
[06:04] <Maxdamantus> Why not make it ZNU?
[06:04] <Maxdamantus> ZNU's Not Unix
[06:05] <Level15> hey, i have rice, pasta and bacon... what can i cook with that?
[06:05] <raylu> rice pasta and bacon.
[06:05] <Level15> lol
[06:05] <ardchoille> hahaha
[06:05] <Level15> yeah... i was hoping i could cook some fish with that XD
[06:05] <ardchoille> Level15: You left yourself wide open with that one
[06:05] <raylu> but seriously, turn the bacon into crumbs
[06:05] <adenicio> intelikey: yea but it runs like n emulator for .exe
[06:05] <jhutchins> Level15: Yes, but you would need rice, pasta, bacon, and fish then.
[06:06] <Level15> HAHAH
[06:06] <jhutchins> adenicio: It's not an emulator, it's an API.
[06:06] <intelikey> adenicio no it runs an aplication layer in which .exe can run   if it were an emulator then it would be like vmware
[06:06] <jhutchins> intelikey: No, vmware is a VM, not an emulator.
[06:06] <Level15> intelikey: sort of...
[06:06] <Level15> it would be  like dosbox
[06:07] <Level15> if it were an emulator
[06:07] <adenicio> jhutchins: intelikey ok
[06:07] <jhutchins> Which it isn't.
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> speaking of dosbox, did anybody hear about the thing with valve/id
[06:07] <intelikey> jhutchins you don't "emulate" hardware with vmware?
[06:07] <Level15> intelikey: in a way, i guess...
[06:08] <Maxdamantus> Top dictionary.com definition for 'GNU': large African antelope having a head with horns like an ox and a long tufted tail
[06:08] <Level15> it all comes down to defining concepts like "emulation", "virtual machine", "compatibility layer", etc
[06:08] <jhutchins> Level15: Don't forget API.
[06:08] <Level15> yes, API
[06:09] <intelikey> and user space -vs- kernel
[06:09] <Maxdamantus> It is emulation anyway.
[06:09] <Level15> !zimbra
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zimbra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <Level15> hm
[06:09] <intelikey> all that sort of raw,  ya know.
[06:09] <jhutchins> The game emulator thing that's an emulator.  wine is a very clever api, not an emulator.  VMware is a whole machine emulator.
[06:09] <Maxdamantus> It interprets the bytecode of ntoskrnl.exe
[06:09] <Level15> !opengroupware
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengroupware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <Maxdamantus> Which is the kernel for running Windows XP programs.
[06:09] <Level15> !openexchange
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openexchange - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <jhutchins> Gnu isn't unix, but unix could be gnu.
[06:09] <Level15> jeez...

[06:10] <intelikey> jhutchins yes it could
[06:10] <Level15> speaking of which... leopard will be Unix'03...
[06:10] <raylu> how so?
[06:10] <Level15> i feel kind  of embarrassed
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> so would that be GNU/Unix? lol
[06:10] <intelikey> err, umm, well, ahh,  hmmm
[06:11] <Level15> GNU/Mac :P
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> there's a logic error for ya
[06:11] <adenicio> anyone know how to use the wiimote on feisty?my bluethoot is not detectin it
[06:11] <intelikey> oximoron
[06:11] <Level15> !oximoron
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oximoron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <Level15> hahahah
[06:11] <intelikey> gnu if you do gnu if you don't
[06:11] <raylu> it's *oxymoron
[06:11] <Level15> we need a bot that checks wiktionary for us
[06:11] <intelikey> raylu that's what i said
[06:12] <raylu> you said oxImoron, and I was talking to Level15
[06:12] <Level15> and another one to tell us the next lotto numbers
[06:12] <Level15> raylu: no i didn't
[06:12] <intelikey> yeah that's what i said
[06:12] <adenicio> lol
 it's *oxymoron
[06:13] <adenicio> u people are a****
[06:13] <intelikey> now i'm finnally a star
[06:13] <underdog5004> adenicio, you're not very nice, polite, or patient
[06:13] <adenicio> underdog5004: sorry
[06:14] <adenicio> underdog5004: can u tell me how to detect my wiimote on my pc?
[06:14] <intelikey> adenicio and i know we did burry your Q   sorry.   but no i don't know.
[06:14] <Maxdamantus> adenicio, what sort of interface does it use?
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> i think its bluetooth iirc
[06:15] <adenicio> Maxdamantus: bluethoot
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> either that or ir
[06:15] <intelikey> yeah he said blueteeth
[06:15] <Littleboots> the Wiimote?
[06:15] <Maxdamantus> Thought so.
[06:15] <Littleboots> I thought it was IR
[06:15] <Maxdamantus> Littleboots, hell no.
[06:15] <Maxdamantus> With IR, it needs a direct line to the receptor.
[06:16] <Nutubuntu> I have forgot the name of the little K applet that lets me change screen resolution on the fly - anyone remember?
 anyone know how to use the wiimote on feisty?my bluethoot is not detectin it   <<<< for the record.
[06:16] <raylu> adenicio, you remindd me of a bash.org quote when you moved that h over 4 spaces
[06:16] <Level15> have you guys ever used gnumagic?
[06:16] <adenicio> raylu: hien?
[06:16] <najib> hey umm i am new to KDE can anybody show me how to get beryl becuase i already have beryl in my UBUNTU
 Maxdamantus: bluethoot
[06:17] <underdog5004> adenicio, no, I can't. I'm sure there are many tutorials online. Google is your friend.
[06:17] <raylu> najib, adept, after putting the repository it
[06:17] <Maxdamantus> najib, if it's on the same machine, run beryl and emerald
[06:17] <flaccid> !beryl
[06:17] <Maxdamantus> Try alt + f2
[06:17] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:17] <Maxdamantus> Then type beryl | emerald
[06:18] <Maxdamantus> Lol, STDOUT redirection should work like that right?
[06:18] <intelikey> najid you mean it's installed  and you just need to activate it ?
[06:18] <adenicio> underdog5004: it looks like feity does restric me from some pages
[06:18] <intelikey> Maxdamantus that's not a redir that's a pipe
[06:18] <Maxdamantus> intelikey, it's redir.
[06:18] <najib> intelikey: yes
[06:18] <Maxdamantus> Where does the pipe originally go to?
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> /dev/stdout
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> That's all stdout is.
[06:19] <raylu> adenicio, huh?
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> A device in /dev
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> Which can be read and written to.
[06:19] <najib> intelikey: u there?
[06:20] <intelikey> najib no sorry.    i think you have to make a link in ~/.kde/Autostart/   but i don't use kde or beryl so better to ask someone that uses both
[06:21] <intelikey> !beryl | najib also is supported in a channel of it's own if you want to ask there
[06:21] <ubotu> najib also is supported in a channel of it's own if you want to ask there: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> najib, you may want to look into beryl-manager
[06:21] <intelikey> ah yes beryl-manager   that too
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> !info beryl-manager
[06:21] <ubotu> beryl-manager: Tray application launcher tool - Beryl Project. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 62 kB, installed size 596 kB
[06:21] <khaije1> anyone know how to set the bluetooth password on a machine?
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> najib, its a handy little applet i kept around even after I dumped beryl
[06:22] <whizadree> well guys thanks for ya help
[06:22] <whizadree> im gonna get some zzz's
[06:23] <intelikey> mount: you must specify the filesystem type       typos....
[06:24] <najib> hitmanWilly: do i know you?
[06:24] <najib> hitmanWilly: do you reside in austin,texas?
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> najib, nah, tenn
[06:24] <najib> hitmanWilly: ok
[06:25] <najib> hitmanWilly: do you know alot about beryl?
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> najib, not really, used it for a little while
[06:26] <underdog5004> where is the absolute location of the trash in kubuntu? not the trash:/, but the path to it?
[06:26] <intelikey> Q   isn't this a misnomer    umount - unmount file systems   <<<  you don't unmount it    you dismount it or detach it...   if it's not mounted it is unmounted even if it's never been mounted.     like "unleaded" gasoline    they didn't take lead out they just quit adding it....
[06:26] <underdog5004> never mind, found it
[06:27] <raylu> intelikey, wouldn't umount fail then?
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, the guys that came up with it were programmers, not english majors :P
[06:27] <underdog5004> ~/.local/share/trash, in case anyone was wondering
[06:27] <intelikey> hitmanWilly lol
[06:27] <intelikey> true dat
[06:28] <intelikey> hitmanWilly probably not even "programmers" probably more like "code monkeys"   but at anyrate
[06:28] <MaTiAz> codeslaves :)
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, actually, im pretty sure that stems back from the original unix
[06:29] <intelikey> but the man page probably doesnt
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> heh
[06:29] <Maxdamantus>  <intelikey> Q   isn't this a misnomer    umount - unmount file systems   <<<  you don't unmount it    you dismount it or detach it...   if it's not mounted it is unmounted even if it's never been mounted.     like "unleaded" gasoline    they didn't take lead out they just quit adding it....
[06:30] <Maxdamantus> I don't agree with the "if it's not mounted it is unmounted"
[06:30] <Maxdamantus> I say that prefixing a word with "un" means it's been undone.
[06:30] <intelikey> doesn't matter if you agree or not that's how   UN- is used in english
[06:30] <Maxdamantus> I wouldn't call shoe laces that have never been tied before "untied"
[06:30] <intelikey> un =  not
[06:31] <Maxdamantus> No, that should be im
[06:31] <intelikey> un = not   look it up.
[06:31] <Maxdamantus> Impossible == Not possible
[06:31] <Maxdamantus> Impure == Not pure
[06:31] <intelikey> inactive
[06:31] <Level15> it's neither mounted nor umounted, but in a quantum overlapping of both states... that is, until yhou measure it XD
[06:31] <intelikey> unnamed
[06:32] <Maxdamantus> Undone != Not done
[06:32] <intelikey> yes undone = not doen
[06:32] <intelikey> done
[06:32] <Level15> unborn
[06:32] <intelikey> not born
[06:32] <Maxdamantus> orly?
[06:32] <intelikey> look it up.
[06:33] <Maxdamantus> It's just one of the few things about English that I don't like.
[06:33] <Level15> i think unborn settles it
[06:33] <ubuntu> hi
[06:33] <intelikey> unbuntu
[06:33] <Level15> lol
[06:33] <Maxdamantus> Also that thing with plurals..
[06:34] <intelikey> yeah cheese  ?
[06:34] <Maxdamantus> No, not cheese.
[06:34] <intelikey> is both plural and singular
[06:34] <Level15> teeth
[06:34] <ubuntu> i installed windows after i installed kubuntu, and now my grub is messed up, i am currently talking to you via a live cd and whould greatly appreciate anyones assistance on the matter :) thanks in advance
[06:35] <Maxdamantus> intelikey, I always thought the plural of cheese was cheeses.
[06:35] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: lol
[06:35] <Level15> ubuntu live cd has a recovery option to fix grubs, i think
[06:35] <intelikey> that is also plural
[06:35] <intelikey> !grub | ubuntu
[06:35] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:35] <ubuntu> Level15: not my live cd :)
[06:35] <Maxdamantus> If you're talking about ones, it's "cheeses"
[06:35] <Maxdamantus> Otherwise it's cheese.
[06:35] <intelikey> see we are watching
[06:36] <Level15> ubuntu: i'm pretty sure it does... though it might be the alternate cd, not sure
[06:36] <Maxdamantus> Like if you're referring to it as an amount, not a quantity.
[06:36] <Maxdamantus> There is alot of cheese.
[06:36] <Maxdamantus> There are alot of cheeses.
[06:36] <Maxdamantus> First one could mean there is one giant lump of cheese.
[06:36] <Maxdamantus> Second means there are lots of pieces of cheese.
[06:36] <intelikey> Maxdamantus yes but there can be a lot of cheese and only be one cheese
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> [16:36:31]   <Maxdamantus> First one could mean there is one giant lump of cheese.
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> That's when you don't use a plural.
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> You don't use plurals when measuring amounts.
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> Like waters.
[06:38] <intelikey> did you drink many waters today ?    :)
[06:38] <Level15> how do i get my window title bars when running beryl?
[06:38] <Maxdamantus> Level15, run "emerald"
[06:38] <Maxdamantus> I think aptitude gets that when you install Beryl. :P
[06:38] <Level15> done, no window decorators... anything else?
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> Level15, did you run it in a terminal, or just on alt + f2
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> ?
[06:39] <Level15> there's something to telll emerald to use kde decorations but can't recall the name
[06:39] <Level15> terminal
[06:39] <Ahmuck> kubuntu does not have a real time core?
[06:39] <Ahmuck> !rt-core
[06:39] <Maxdamantus>  <Ahmuck> kubuntu does not have a real time core?
[06:39] <Ahmuck> !realtime
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt-core - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realtime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> Real time core?
[06:39] <Ahmuck> real time kernel
[06:39] <Level15> !rtlinux
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rtlinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Level15> hm
[06:40] <Ahmuck> i am having problems with rosegarden
[06:40] <Maxdamantus> /proc/kcore?
[06:40] <Ahmuck> low latency
[06:40] <adenicio> im boared anything to do
[06:40] <Level15> hey. i'd like my titlebars back...
[06:40] <intelikey> you know gasoline costed 2 cents a galon more when they started adding lead    leaded gas was 27 cent/gal   then it was 57 c/g and they started selling "unleaded" gas again, and it costed 4 cents more for the "unleaded"    and people were stupid enough to pay extra both times.
[06:41] <intelikey> how dumb can we be and still breath
[06:41] <Level15> one sucker every second...
[06:42] <intelikey> geee   he sure gets born a lot....
[06:42] <intelikey> :)
[06:42] <Level15> lol
[06:42] <Level15> hey fellows... i really want my window decorations back...
[06:42] <Level15> emerald is running
[06:42] <Level15> but is not drawing the decorations...
[06:43] <el_isma> Hello! I need help. I want to bridge my ethernet iface with my wifi one. I'm following the howtos but it doesn't work and I can't spot what I'm doing wrong... Anyone has experience with this?
[06:43] <Level15> !bridge
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bridge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <intelikey> totally out of my realm level15, sorry.
[06:43] <Level15> dude, ubotu seems rusty today ;)
[06:43] <Level15> intelikey: ok, thanks
[06:43] <intelikey> el_isma  ip forwarding ?
[06:43] <hangthedj> !effects
[06:43] <ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[06:44] <el_isma> intelikey: not sure of what you're asking. please explain
[06:44] <intelikey> el_isma what page you folling ?
[06:44] <intelikey> following  even
[06:44] <el_isma> http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/TransparentBridge and http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge
[06:48] <Ahmuck> Maxdamantus: i guess not or something between the kubuntu and rosegarden is not working right, as a result, no sound
[06:49] <intelikey> ok that first one is criptic  if you are new to that,  and i am,  and the second is worse...  so i guess i better pass.
[06:50] <bor_z> server irc.chatx.net.
[06:50] <intelikey> all i have done is ip forwarding so i can use one box as the gateway and connect other boxes to the inet through it.
[06:51] <Level15> brb
[06:51] <el_isma> intelikey: Yeah, I have that setup right now... But it never felt "right"... I couldn't get this box to act as a proper DHCP server even, so the wifi were setup by hand...
[06:53] <intelikey> el_isma well that first page you posted states plainly that it's not dhcp
[06:53] <el_isma> intelikey: I never could setup a bridge... :( I thought it maybe was the hardware, but I swapped machines recently and still it doesn't work
[06:53] <el_isma> intelikey: It's not, it bridges with the wired network so your router/whatever assigns the IP to the client
[06:54] <el_isma> intelikey: so it would be like if the wifi clients were connected by wired net
[06:54] <intelikey> el_isma right.  but still more than i have done.
[06:55] <el_isma> intelikey: Thanks anyway :)
[06:56] <intelikey> el_isma there are usualy some guys in ##linux that can help with networking.  but they aren't always nice.
[06:56] <el_isma> ok, I'll try my luck
[06:57] <intelikey> el_isma also that is not kde specific  so you can ask in #ubuntu   just don't mention kubuntu and you might actually get help...  :)
[06:57] <el_isma> lol, already did :P
[06:59] <Tyro> can you get a kubuntu ISo to boot from a USB Drive Or IPod
[06:59] <intelikey> tyro there is a windows installer,  not what you are asking tho.
[07:00] <intelikey> i never tried to boot an iso that wasn't on a cd    so idk.    in theory it should be possable.
[07:00] <Tyro> i'm asking, becasue i'm going to buy a laptop without a CD Drive
[07:00] <intelikey> dvd ?
[07:00] <Tyro> it doesn't have a drive
[07:01] <intelikey> oh don't do that.
[07:01] <Tyro> it's a really tiny laptop
[07:01] <intelikey> you'll hate your self in the morning
[07:01] <Tyro> i wont
[07:01] <Tyro> i'm not using it as a mian PC
[07:01] <Tyro> main
[07:02] <Tyro> it's just a really compact solution
[07:02] <intelikey> well you could install linux on the usb stick and boot then copy it to the hd     just one idea
[07:02] <Tyro> and it's only going to cost $200 USD
[07:02] <Tyro> i'll try to boot it straight from my IPOD later
[07:04] <Tyro> 200 usd is nothing for a brand new laptop
[07:04] <intelikey> a bargin isn't a bargin if you don't need it...
[07:04] <Tyro> well, i want it
[07:05] <intelikey> :)
[07:05] <intelikey> fair enough
[07:05] <Tyro> i don't have my own computer
[07:05] <Tyro> i'm onry 15 :(
[07:05] <intelikey> and this wont be your main boxen ?
 i'm not using it as a mian PC
[07:05] <Tyro> no chance
[07:05] <intelikey> l
[07:05] <MaTiAz> Tyro: You mean the Asus Eee?
[07:05] <Tyro> YES!
[07:05] <Tyro> the 701
[07:06] <MaTiAz> Yeah, I'm getting one too :)
[07:06] <Tyro> HAHA!
[07:06] <Tyro> how sweet is it
[07:06] <MaTiAz> Really sweet
[07:06] <Tyro> i'm gonna put kubuntu on it, if i can
[07:06] <MaTiAz> Yeah me too
[07:06] <intelikey> and do you know what hardware is in them.   can you get the network working on them.
[07:06] <kewlsolutions> j/ateneo
[07:06] <MaTiAz> intelikey: IIRC it's some Intel chipset
[07:06] <Tyro> yes, it's an AUS, full stop
[07:06] <MaTiAz> intelikey: 910 based if I'm correct
[07:06] <Tyro> ASUS*
[07:07] <Level15> brb
[07:07] <Tyro> 910 based?
[07:07] <MaTiAz> It comes with xandros though
[07:07] <MaTiAz> Tyro: I mean the motherboard chipset is intel 910 based
[07:07] <Tyro> yeah, that's why i'm asking if you can boot from ipod
[07:07] <Tyro> KaTiAz, i think so, i know that it's 900MHz 512MB RAM
[07:08] <MaTiAz> Tyro: yeah
[07:08] <MaTiAz> intelikey: What nvidia card do you have?
[07:08] <Level15> tada!! beryl up and running
[07:08] <intelikey> riva128 agp
[07:09] <MaTiAz> haha
[07:09] <MaTiAz> My 8800GTS pwns yours >:D
[07:09] <Tyro> i have a 7600GT
[07:09] <intelikey> mine is not supported
[07:09] <MaTiAz> I had a 6200 once, it sucks
[07:09] <klobster> intelikey: you are running a gui?
[07:09] <intelikey> klobster no  but i did start x yesterday
[07:10] <intelikey> played a game...  for an hour or so
[07:10] <klobster> intelikey: babysteps, right? ^^
[07:10] <intelikey> lol
[07:11] <intelikey> klobster i used to say "i have to have a gui"   granted it was years ago now  but proves dirrection of travel
[07:12] <intelikey> or at least can be considered as evidence.     doesn't really prove anything maybe...
[07:12] <intelikey> well it proves i said that i guess....
[07:13] <klobster> heh heh
[07:14] <klobster> what window manager did you run?
[07:14] <intelikey> blackbox
[07:14] <intelikey> that's all i have used this year
[07:15] <Jmanfoo> I have a question about korganizer if someone has a moment
[07:15] <intelikey> i have two moments   but probably can't answer
[07:15] <seth> :))
[07:16] <Jmanfoo> well, i tried to set it up to pul the webdav calendar from our exchange OWA server at work
[07:16] <Jmanfoo> and now it just keeps crashing as soon as i open it
[07:16] <Jmanfoo> i pulled a backtrace but its greek to me
[07:17] <intelikey> yeah *trace is writen in geek
[07:17] <intelikey> Jmanfoo call it from konsole and see what it errors out with
[07:19] <Tyro> MaTiAz, are you getting the Eee 701, or the 10" one
[07:19] <Neil3> never had any success with korganizer and exchange here :(
[07:20] <hangthedj> what file do i edit to keep the same ip on the computer when the machine reboots.
[07:20] <MaTiAz> Tyro: 701 because I can't wait for the 10" one :D
[07:21] <Tyro> hah, so true
[07:21] <Tyro> might have to get both
[07:21] <intelikey> hangthedj i'll go out on a limb and say  /etc/network/interfaces
[07:21] <Tyro> give the 701 to your mum when you're done with it
[07:21] <hangthedj> hey thanks.
[07:22] <intelikey> a problem it is not
[07:25] <Zmanfoo> Ok now that i've restabilized kde, has anyone else tried to integrate korganizer with exchange?
[07:25] <Neil3> Zmanfoo: yes but to no avail
[07:25] <Neil3> i gave up in the end
[07:27] <intelikey> i gave up in the other end
[07:29] <intelikey> repost    Jmanfoo call it from konsole and see what it errors out with
[07:29] <Neil3> ah Zmanfooi dont believe it
[07:29] <Neil3> i dont believe it even, i just got the calendar working
[07:29] <intelikey> i think his kde died again...
[07:30] <intelikey> he should be working on the user interface not the apps
[07:30] <intelikey> Josh Benson   wake up.
[07:32] <arun> anyone here use kspread?
[07:33] <NickPresta> arun, would that be KOffice spreadsheet?
[07:33] <arun> NickPresta: yes, precisely :)
[07:33] <NickPresta> arun, I've used it a few times, for graphs and such
[07:34] <NickPresta> arun, is there anything you needed help with in regards to kspread?
[07:35] <arun> NickPresta: ah okay.. i have a peculiar problem. everytime i format a few columns/rows (fonts, bold, italics, etc) in a file and save it, the next time i open the document the formatting reverts back to the default. i don't know why that happens, it's quite irritating. i really like the program otherwise.
[07:35] <arun> any ideas?
[07:35] <NickPresta> arun, would it be possible to send me the file - I can test it out a couple of times and see if the same thing happens to me
[07:36] <arun> um, i dont think so. it's a bit confidential, sorry
[07:36] <NickPresta> arun, no problem. I'll create a few local files and play around.
[07:37] <arun> if i change things like the font, or row height/indentation.. it works fine while i'm using it. if i save and close it, and open it later, some parts are formatted correctly, and some parts revert back to the default.
[07:38] <NickPresta> arun, I created three files (all different) which have various formatting (bold, italic, different font sizes, and column widths) and closed and reopened them. All formatting appeared in tact.
[07:38] <arun> hmm
[07:38] <arun> must be some problem with my installation
[07:38] <arun> what version are you using
[07:39] <NickPresta> arun, aside from regular usage, I don't know how else to "test" this in a controlled sort of way. If this is happening randomly, I'm not sure how you would fix it or report the bug
[07:39] <NickPresta> arun, KSpread 1.6.3 (Using KDE 3.5.7)
[07:39] <arun> i'm on 1.6.2
[07:39] <arun> using kde 3.5.6
[07:39] <NickPresta> hmm. You could try upgrading (both KDE and KSpread) and see if it makes a difference
[07:40] <NickPresta> arun, otherwise, you could try using OpenOffice.
[07:42] <intelikey> don't tell me, i just locked my self out of root...    crap.
[07:43] <intelikey> easy there fod rod
[07:43] <arun> NickPresta: openoffice was all screwed up on my computer (at least the version that came pre-installed with kubuntu). the font rendering was all messed up. i'll try re-installing it and seeing if that helps. thanks!
[07:43] <NickPresta> arun, no problem. I hope you find a solution.
[07:45] <arun> any office suites for kde besides koffice?
[07:46] <alceta> arun: openoffice?
[07:46] <arun> yes, apart from openoffice and koffice..
[07:47] <intelikey> ah script attack.
[07:47] <yossarian2012> can anyone tell me how to give an application priority?  I am usuing kaffeine and want to give it enough priority that it won't skip when doing other things on an older machine
[07:47] <intelikey> renice
[07:47] <intelikey> nice
[07:50] <bob_sinclair> you can renice in ksysguard (ctrl+esc)
[07:51] <bob_sinclair> http://www.samspublishing.com/articles/article.asp?p=770644&rl=1 <-- interesting
[07:53] <intelikey> i just dumped about 28m of ram into a bottemless pipe       bug in mc
[07:54] <ghery63> hello
[07:55] <intelikey> yeah
[08:07] <arun> hey ghery63
[08:10] <intelikey> can you not have function names that begin with numbers ?
[08:10] <intelikey> 2space() { blah }    is erroring out with   "Syntax error: Bad function name"   ???
[08:17] <wolferine> function names, no
[08:17] <intelikey> wolferine actually not if it's a posix compliant shell   but yes if it's  "bash"
[08:17] <intelikey> and thanks.
[08:18] <runlevelten> I'd never start the name of anything callable with a number anyway... looks wrong to me.
[08:19] <runlevelten> as you say though, 2space2() { echo blah;} does work in bash :)
[08:30] <intelikey> rm -rfv /
[08:34] <bob_sinclair> intelikey: if someone just tried that command intelikey to see what it does, you will be hated badly
[08:36] <wolferine> yeah, atleast take out the -v
[08:36] <wolferine> no one needs to see that
[08:36] <intelikey> flaccid   only if they had storage in their home    cause that's all it will affect
[08:37] <intelikey> wolferine heh
[08:38] <bob_sinclair> yeah home isn't important at all..
[08:38] <bob_sinclair> but if they ran it under a root shell, its going to do a lot more
[08:38] <ggarlic_> does anyone know whether kde4 beta works well with kubuntu7.04
[08:39] <bob_sinclair> recovering from particularly ext3 is nearly impossible for the average user so important personal docs gone - thats worse than just binaries
[08:39] <wolferine> its not as bad as recovering from reiser
[08:40] <intelikey> xfs
[08:40] <runlevelten> xfsftw
[08:40] <intelikey> now how many of you just did that rm thing to see what it did ?
[08:41] <intelikey> see no harm done  :)
[08:41] <wolferine> ;)
[08:41] <intelikey> lol
[08:41] <intelikey> say luke
[08:41] <wolferine> u son of a b...
[08:42] <bob_sinclair> next time you won't be so lucky intelikey. newbies love to try commands...
[08:43] <intelikey> :() { : | : ; } ; :
[08:43] <bob_sinclair> :O
[08:43] <wolferine> oh goodness
[08:43] <wolferine> what is that
[08:43] <intelikey> how many tried that one ?
[08:43] <wolferine> should I type it in a shell?
[08:43] <wolferine> as sudo ?
[08:43] <intelikey> only as root  yeah
[08:43] <intelikey> :)
[08:43] <intelikey> looks harmless doesn't
[08:43] <intelikey> it
[08:44] <intelikey> indeed  ping timeout
[08:44] <intelikey> and with default kernels and default shell settings    your xorg will even crash before that is through
[08:47] <intelikey> heh i can make it look even more benighn     echo "`:() { : | : ; } ; :`"   now if that doesn't look safe enough for a ubuntu user i don't know what would...
[08:47] <intelikey> but leave it alone or set ulimit -n 256 first.
[08:48] <intelikey> anybody taking notes ?
[08:48] <runlevelten> Don't post fork bombs ffs :\
[08:48] <intelikey> i think they should be made known
[08:49] <intelikey> it an easy preventive measure that everyone should use   in fact it should be default
[08:50] <intelikey> echo 'ulimit -n 256' >> /etc/profile   no danger here mate.
[08:50] <intelikey> and 256 is plenty of user processes.
[08:53] <intelikey> think about this.  what is the safest proceedure for dealing with an exploit ?    never mention it   or mention it often ?     specally if there is a known fix ?
[08:54] <intelikey> like duh    post it on every forum and wiki there is...
[08:54] <intelikey> type it in irc even...
[08:54] <intelikey> ok i'll quit.
[08:54] <wolferine> lol
[08:54] <wolferine> you are kinda rambling...
[08:55] <intelikey> i'm off in 35 minutes   so let me ramble   :)
[08:56] <wolferine> i hope your on the other side of the world
[08:56] <intelikey> no i'm on this one
[08:56] <wolferine> the one with winter right now
[08:56] <intelikey> you are on the other one
[08:57] <intelikey> i just want to know one thing ?   why do you people over there stand on your heads ?
[08:57] <wolferine> why, or how?
[08:57] <intelikey> why
[08:58] <intelikey> you know up is down on the other side .... :)
[08:58] <intelikey> small planet syndrome
[09:00] <_d1> wolferine and intelikey where are you ?from
[09:00] <intelikey> he's not from here,  i mean i'm not from there..
[09:00] <intelikey> see now you confused me.
[09:01] <_d1> do you all have a country?
[09:01] <intelikey> i don't even own a state,  let alone a country
[09:02] <wolferine> rptflmao
[09:02] <intelikey> actually i'm not answering you,  it a "sorry, i just don't play the asl game"  thang
[09:03] <_d1> what does asl mean?
[09:03] <wolferine> age/sec/live
[09:03] <wolferine> sex*
[09:04] <intelikey> it's what teenagers say on aol and yahoo    asl  asl   asl   asl     means  what is your age sex and location
[09:04] <intelikey> i don't play that game,  never have.
[09:04] <intelikey> this is irc where men are men,
[09:04] <intelikey> and women are men,
[09:04] <wolferine> and men are women?
[09:04] <intelikey> and children are FBI agents
[09:05] <intelikey> wolferine you messed that one up royally   now didn't you
[09:05] <intelikey> :)
[09:06] <wolferine> :P
[09:06] <_d1> i'm 60, a mean son of a bitch,from USA
[09:06] <intelikey> dac heh
[09:06] <kelnex> I am an FBI agent *pew* *pew*
[09:07] <Agent_bob> me too
[09:08] <Agent_bob> but i still don't play the asl game
[09:09] <exceswater> hi all people
[09:09] <Agent_bob> ok i better go make finnal rounds now.
[09:09] <arun> hey exceswater
[09:09] <Agent_bob> exceswater shalom
[09:09] <exceswater> can i disturb you with a noob question ?
[09:09] <exceswater> hi Agent_bob
[09:09] <Agent_bob> you just did
[09:09] <exceswater> shalom
[09:09] <exceswater> hi arun
[09:09] <exceswater> :D
[09:09] <Agent_bob> :)
[09:09] <Agent_bob> !ask
[09:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:09] <exceswater> it seems that i have a problem with adept] 
[09:10] <Littleboots> does it
[09:10] <exceswater> from time to time... when it should need to update some aps
[09:10] <exceswater> i start it
[09:10] <_d1> :)
[09:10] <exceswater> actually it shows me that there are updates available
[09:10] <exceswater> but..
[09:10] <exceswater> it cannot update all of them
[09:10] <exceswater> everytime i get an error
[09:10] <exceswater> and i am noob on kubuntu
[09:10] <Agent_bob> !repos | exceswater
[09:10] <ubotu> exceswater: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:11] <exceswater> guys,..
[09:11] <Agent_bob> i really must make rounds     good luck with it exceswater
[09:11] <exceswater> imagine that i use win for more than 14 years
[09:11] <exceswater> and linux for a year
[09:12] <exceswater> repositories... i understand... but universe and multiverse... are kinda magic for me :D
[09:12] <exceswater> i gtg now
[09:13] <exceswater> i will come back :D
[09:13] <exceswater> actually
[09:13] <exceswater> i'll be back
[09:13] <exceswater> this sound more impressive :D
[09:13] <exceswater> terminator style :D
[09:14] <_d1> i'm going away also,k bye:-D
[09:37] <bob_sinclair> im here, just finishing stupid work
[09:38] <bob_sinclair> time for home time
[09:48] <Tyro> hey, can you make the text on the bottom toolbar not fade out?
[09:48] <Tyro> the text fades out and looks kinda odd
[09:49] <Tyro> anyone?
[09:53] <Tyro> anyone know how to turn tooltip off
[09:53] <Tyro> when you hover it makes a bit speech bubble
[09:56] <contrast83> Tyro: Are you talking about the panel tooltips?
[09:57] <Tyro> i think so
[09:57] <Tyro> the tooltip when you hover over the bottom panel
[09:58] <Tyro> contrast83, i think i mean that one
[09:59] <contrast83> Tyro - right-click the panel -> Configure panels -> Appearance -> uncheck "Enable icon mouseover effects" to just get regular tooltips for the panel, uncheck that and "show tooltips" to disable panel tooltips completely
[10:00] <hermann_348> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=348 klick plx
[10:00] <Maxdamantus> Uhh.. How do I turn a hard disk off? I think I can do it using hdparm, but I think I'm blind reading the --help.
[10:01] <Tyro> awesome thx
[10:01] <Tyro> contrast83, is there a way to get rid of the faded text on the application tabs on the toolbar
[10:02] <Tyro> i want it to be solid
[10:03] <contrast83> i don't think so... it wouldn't really make sense to have it that way, because you're still gonna have windows with long titles that get cut off. :-\
[10:04] <Tyro> yeah, but i like the effect of the names being cut off, not faded
[10:05] <contrast83> you realize it only fades like, the last one or two visible characters, right?
[10:06] <Tyro> yes
[10:06] <Tyro> but it looks stupid
[10:06] <contrast83> lol
[10:06] <Tyro> is there a way to only display the tasks on the virtual desktop in  use?
[10:06] <contrast83> you can't change it, to the best of my knowledge
[10:06] <Tyro> is there a way to only display the tasks on the virtual desktop in  use?
[10:06] <contrast83> ugh
[10:07] <Tyro> is there?
[10:07] <contrast83> !patience
[10:07] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:07] <contrast83> yep. it's in the taskbar section of the Configure panel dialog
[10:07] <Tyro> lol, i just found it as i aske
[10:07] <Tyro> d
[10:08] <Tyro> sorry to flood you with questions, but can i make the scroll wheel do nothing when on taksbar
[10:08] <Tyro> because i can't find that option
[10:12] <contrast83> hmm... not sure, but umm... why would you want to? :-)
[10:12] <contrast83> Configure Panel -> Taskbar -> Actions
[10:18] <Tyro> contrast83, there isn't a nothing option
[10:23] <Tyro> contrast83, is there a way to stop animation of icons when you click
[10:39] <RobNyc> !kioslave
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kioslave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <Damienww> hello, can someone help me?
[10:43] <pag> !ask | Damienww
[10:43] <ubotu> Damienww: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:43] <Damienww> :)
[10:43] <Damienww> ok
[10:43] <Damienww> i have the problem described here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6546
[10:44] <Damienww> x server doesn't start coz of ati when i try to run the live cd
[10:44] <Damienww> but they solve the problem by actually typinf a command line and getting things from the internet...
[10:45] <Damienww> and i dont see how to do that since x server doesn't start
[10:47] <pag> Damienww, When X server doesn't start, press ctrl+alt+F1 and it'll get you to the command line
[10:54] <Tyro> can anyone tell me how to disble icon animation on click
[10:56] <pag> Tyro, you mean the one that "enlarges" the icon?
[10:56] <pag> ie. when you click the folder
[11:00] <Tyro> yes
[11:00] <Tyro> and the flash around the toolbar icons
[11:00] <Tyro> pag, sorry for taking a while to reply
[11:01] <pag> Tyro, maybe kcontrol -> Appearance -> icons -> animate icons?
[11:01] <pag> in advanced tab that is
[11:01] <Tyro> what is kcontrol
[11:02] <Assid> err.. how do i use the keyfile which putty uses to be usable by ssh /cli
[11:02] <pag> Tyro, better version of System Settings  (probably the same can be done via sys.sets too)
[11:02] <Tyro> it's ok i put it in the run
[11:04] <Tyro> OMG, kubuntu is sooo cool
[11:07] <waltercool> in linux... using 2 users... how can i protect my data of the another user?
[11:08] <pag> remove read-right from all except yourself in your /home/$your-user
[11:09] <waltercool> oh... ic... with chown... right'
[11:09] <waltercool> ?
[11:09] <pag> waltercool, chmod, and I think it's easier to do graphically
[11:10] <DarkED> hey all, i need some help
[11:10] <waltercool> thanks pag :)
[11:10] <DarkED> in desktop config > behavior, i've got it set to place application menus on the top (mac-style)
[11:11] <DarkED> however, the panel that this creates has no config options, therefore i cannot make it transparent... and i need to
[11:11] <DarkED> how can i get into this panel's config? i'll do it with a text editor if need be
[11:11] <pag> waltercool, probably it's also good to tick the "apply to all subfolders"
[11:11] <waltercool> chmod 555 -R ?
[11:12] <trekdanne> chmod o-x /home/username ??
[11:12] <pag> waltercool, I'm not that familiar with chmod.. I'd guess 700, butI'm not sure
[11:13] <waltercool> well... right click so with konqueror :)
[11:17] <waltercool> another question... is very... personal this question, i know... but i need know this: Why kde and not gnome?
[11:18] <pag> waltercool, no reason - Some prefer KDE some prefer Gnome, there's no "wrong" choise
[11:18] <pag> try both and see which one you like more
[11:19] <waltercool> is because i need change a friend of win$$ to some easy linux... and idk what show it
[11:19] <Lynoure> waltercool: or do you mean why individuals here chose it?
[11:19] <waltercool> yeah
[11:20] <Lynoure> waltercool: I did not like having to poke at gconf if I wanted something configured to my taste.
[11:20] <waltercool> Lynoure: I prefer kde because u can change a lot of things of look :)
[11:21] <Lynoure> waltercool: well, one can make gnome look very different, too.
[11:22] <waltercool> Lynoure: mmm... i try... but i only can add themes and use it
[11:22] <waltercool> Lynoure: in kde i can change colour of panels, buttons, bar, etc
[11:23] <waltercool> with a bit of clics
[11:23] <waltercool> kubuntu dont have 3D look? (compiz) like ubuntu?
[11:24] <Lynoure> waltercool: see http://www.siltala.net/2006/12/01/topaz-now-or-the-topyli-non-interface/ as a gnome example
[11:25] <waltercool> Lynoure: i have used gnome xDDD
[11:25] <waltercool> Lynoure: But is hard change, for example... top bar colour of windows
[11:27] <Lynoure> waltercool: not really that hard, just takes a change of value in a text file
[11:27] <Lynoure> waltercool: but I know that some people really like GUI for most things.
[11:28] <waltercool> Lynoure: xDD, is because that i ask for a easy use method... for a friend who is win$$ user
[11:31] <waltercool> but... in kubuntu have like ubuntu a thing for activate automatically restricted drivers?
[11:32] <DarkED> hey guys... check it out
[11:32] <DarkED> http://darked.toddkleinert.com/mg/index.php?id=740
[11:32] <DarkED> i got kde's kicker looking exactly like leopard's menubar :)
[11:33] <waltercool> where u got styles like that??? :O
[11:33] <waltercool> i want...
[11:33] <DarkED> i made it
[11:34] <DarkED> used a custom bitmap for the background
[11:34] <waltercool> Oh... ic, seems... niiiiiice
[11:34] <DarkED> transparency works better but it doesn't work correctly with the application menus for some reason
[11:34] <DarkED> so... i made a bitmap that works right
[11:35] <waltercool> u can upload it in kdelook :)
[11:35] <DarkED> i might
[11:35] <DarkED> but it only works with this wallpaper
[11:35] <waltercool> why?
[11:35] <DarkED> um because i used this wallpaper as a base for the background image of the transparent white bar
[11:35] <DarkED> in gimp
[11:36] <DarkED> it's an image, not real transparency
[11:36] <DarkED> it's fake
[11:36] <waltercool> but... u can use the kde transparency
[11:37] <DarkED> yes but it doesn't work right with the mac menubar
[11:37] <waltercool> make a transparent panel
[11:37] <waltercool> mmm
[11:37] <DarkED> it has a big seam in the middle, looks ugly
[11:37] <dice14u> help, I cannot configure video card drivers in systemsettings even as root
[11:37] <waltercool> DarkED: is rarely... but must exist a solve
[11:38] <dice14u> when I try and change drivers in system settings apply never becomes available
[11:39] <waltercool> dice14u: Where u can change the driver?
[11:39] <waltercool> :S
[11:39] <dice14u> systemsettings
[11:40] <dice14u> when I click systemsettings then administrator button
[11:40] <waltercool> im in system settings, but i dont see a administrator button :S
[11:41] <waltercool> computer administration?
[11:41] <dice14u> no
[11:41] <dice14u> lol
[11:41] <dice14u> ok in system settings
[11:41] <dice14u> there is a desktop button
[11:41] <dice14u> monitors and display
[11:42] <waltercool> yes
[11:42] <dice14u> click monitor and display
[11:42] <waltercool> in hardware... right?
[11:42] <dice14u> yes hardware
[11:42] <waltercool> admin mode dont work for me too
[11:42] <dice14u> administrator mode
[11:43] <dice14u> when you click it?
[11:43] <dice14u> it doesn't work?
[11:43] <waltercool> exactly
[11:43] <waltercool> is rarely
[11:43] <dice14u> well in anycase yeah it doesn't work for me
[11:43] <dice14u> anyone able to help me :-p
[11:43] <waltercool> maybe restarting...
[11:43] <dice14u> no
[11:44] <dice14u> doesn't change anything
[11:44] <dice14u> even restarting x-server
[11:44] <dice14u> or total power shutdown
[11:44] <waltercool> mmm
[11:45] <waltercool> ok... now works for me
[11:45] <waltercool> when u push in admin mode... make clic in gray window...
[11:45] <waltercool> in the gray window
[11:46] <Maxdamantus> How can I fully shut down a hard disk? Somewhere in hdparm perhaps?
[11:47] <contrast83> dice14u: open ksysguard as root (Alt+F2 -> kdesu ksysguard), and look for anything containing kdesu.
[11:47] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Removing power cable?
[11:48] <Maxdamantus> waltercool, I don't think my motherboard supports that.
[11:48] <contrast83> dice14u: let me know if you find it...
[11:48] <Maxdamantus> Last time I tried, the whole machine shut off.
[11:48] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: mmm... have protection...
[11:48] <Maxdamantus> Also, it gave me an electric shock too.
[11:48] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: I can figurate only unmounting the device...
[11:48] <Maxdamantus> Protection?
[11:49] <Maxdamantus> I can put it into sleep mode, reset it, and stuff.
[11:49] <Maxdamantus> Using hdparm.
[11:49] <Maxdamantus> But can't see how to shut it down.
[11:49] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Yeah... think about the hard disk is burned... can make burn another devices..., so... it shutdown it automatically
[11:50] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: But... must work umounting and removing IDE/SATA cable and after power cable...
[11:50] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: In my case... works... but i haven't a simmilar protection xD
[11:52] <dice14u> contrast83 i found a kdesud
[11:52] <Maxdamantus> Oh, that's what you mean by protection.
[11:52] <Maxdamantus> The system shutting it's self off.
[11:52] <Maxdamantus> Thought you were suggesting an anti-static wrist band thing or something.
[11:53] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Loool xDD... i dont think about u can shutdown a device... xD
[11:53] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Only powering on a PC, all devices are powered
[11:53] <contrast83> dice14u: kill that
[11:53] <dice14u> contrast83: when i make it admin mode it becomes kdesu
[11:53] <waltercool> USB included
[11:53] <contrast83> dice14u: so the Admin Mode button is working now?
[11:54] <Maxdamantus> waltercool, I'm fairly sure you can.
[11:54] <dice14u> no its not the issue
[11:54] <dice14u> when i do anything
[11:54] <contrast83> dice14u: oh, sorry. i misunderstood your problem
[11:54] <dice14u> apply does not start
[11:54] <contrast83> ???
[11:54] <dice14u> the apply button never stops being grayed out
[11:55] <contrast83> ohh
[11:55] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: PC is not controlling power supply...
[11:55] <dice14u> even if changes are made
[11:55] <Maxdamantus> waltercool, I'm aware of that.
[11:55] <dice14u> and so they cannot be applied
[11:55] <contrast83> dice14u: certain changes are made in real time
[11:55] <Maxdamantus> But I'm fairly sure you can shut down a hard drive.
[11:55] <contrast83> dice14u: what are you trying to do, exactly?
[11:55] <Maxdamantus> I know how to shut it down, but the kernel will turn it on again when trying to read it.
[11:55] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Maybe with a special motherboard... for servers or something...
[11:56] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: I know servers with this function... but idk if is for motherboard really...
[11:56] <dice14u> I am trying to change my video card ati with driver fglrx to video card: ati radeon driver:fglrx
[11:57] <dice14u> change fglrx to use ati radeon instead of just ati
[11:57] <dice14u> that way eventually i will be able to use beryl
[11:57] <dice14u> lol
[11:57] <waltercool> dice14u: U can use propietary drivers in kubuntu without use console? xD
[11:57] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. I wonder what I can do about this HD..
[11:58] <dice14u> what? waltercool?
[11:58] <contrast83> dice14u: so you're trying to use the open driver (ati) instead of the closed one (fglrx) so you don't have to use xgl to run beryl, correct?
[11:58] <waltercool> dice14u: If u can install propietary drivers of ati/nvidia without make commands in console...?
[11:58] <dice14u> you know i really don't care
[11:58] <dice14u> i just wanted beryl to work
[11:58] <Maxdamantus> I'll probably brb if I DC, will be my computer shutting it's self off.
[11:58] <dice14u> ati drivers allowed full resolution
[11:58] <dice14u> but no 3d
[11:59] <dice14u> fglrx when i installed went all 640x480 on me
[11:59] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Are u using a HD for move information? (like usb sticks)
[11:59] <waltercool> ?
[11:59] <dice14u> i am going to change xorg.conf to use ati drivers
[11:59] <Maxdamantus> No.
[11:59] <dice14u> see how that works
[11:59] <contrast83> dice14u: Run command -> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> Ctrl+F -> Section "Device"
[11:59] <keisangi> is there's a way to setup time for minimizing a window ?
[12:00] <Maxdamantus> Ah, it didn't shut off.
[12:00] <keisangi> i mean setup how long should it take to minimize a window
[12:00] <contrast83> dice14u: KDE's display config utility sucks. just edit xorg.conf by hand
[12:01] <contrast83> dice14u: you can also run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from Konsole and that will walk you through all the steps
[12:01] <dice14u> agh that sounds nicer
[12:01] <Maxdamantus> I have a feeling it will die when I unplug the IDE cable though.
[12:01] <contrast83> takes a bit longer though. ;-)
[12:02] <keisangi>  i was wondering if there's a way to setup the time it should take for a window to get minimized in kde ?
[12:02] <keisangi> i've setup an animation for windows when they get minimized .. but they get minimized too fast my animation can't play entirely .. just half actialy .. i'd like to setup twice the time it's actualy setup ..
[12:02] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: My best choice... buy a HD case and connect it usb method
[12:02] <Maxdamantus> I have one.
[12:02] <contrast83> keisangi: you mean how long the animation takes?
[12:02] <flipstone> hello everyone
[12:02] <Maxdamantus> That's slower though.
[12:02] <contrast83> greets
[12:02] <keisangi> 800ms i think .. it's a compiz animation
[12:03] <flipstone> i'm new in kubuntu, and allready having a problem :-)
[12:03] <Maxdamantus> waltercool, I have a feeling the whole HD is **cked though.
[12:03] <contrast83> keisangi: wait, so you're using compiz?
[12:03] <keisangi> yes i do
[12:03] <contrast83> compiz-fusion, or just plain old compiz?
[12:03] <keisangi> but couldn't find anything in compiz / emerald that wuould let me parameter that ?
[12:04] <keisangi> compiz fusion
[12:04] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Exist some things for fix HD... hiren tools, UBCD and others...
[12:04] <Maxdamantus> Since trying it on my other machine, it kept giving a smart error at BIOS.
[12:04] <contrast83> keisangi: are you talking about how the window fades out before the animation completes?
[12:04] <Maxdamantus> And the other day, it started making funny noises.
[12:04] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: ;O
[12:04] <Maxdamantus> So I backed up the 9gb of data which was on there.
[12:04] <flipstone> anyone had allready the problem that if you start the adept manager, it won't do it because another program is using the database and according to me no other program is running?
[12:05] <Maxdamantus> And went dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc
[12:05] <Maxdamantus> :P
[12:05] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: A smart error can be normal or bad...
[12:05] <Maxdamantus> Yea, it doesn't give it any more though.
[12:05] <Maxdamantus> But it't still making the funny noises, and taking just as long.
[12:05] <keisangi> contrast83, yes : how long it take for the window to disappear in the taskbar ... my animation takes too long, the window disappeared in the taskbar before in could be displayed entirely
[12:06] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Must be uncalibrated... in hiren tools, u have a app called HDD regenerator... this app fix that
[12:06] <Maxdamantus> I think I might try another overwrite, I think it only did 2.4gb last night.
[12:06] <contrast83> keisangi: open ccsm -> Effects -> Fading windows -> fade on minimize/open/close
[12:06] <Maxdamantus> Which took 50k something seconds, resulting in a write error.
[12:06] <contrast83> uncheck that
[12:06] <keisangi> contrast83, i check
[12:07] <donvinzk> Hi, I have a problem with kdm: I can not shutdown (blank screen) , I have to press the power button, any idea why ? Is there a specific issue with kdm ?
[12:07] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Or a bad magnetic calibration, or a physical damage...
[12:07] <Maxdamantus> donvinzk, try shutting down from the command line.
[12:08] <Maxdamantus> waltercool, well, I dropped it on some concrete today, which didn't change anything.
[12:08] <Maxdamantus> And my other two HDs which were included are still fine.
[12:08] <waltercool> :O
[12:08] <waltercool> HD killer!
[12:08] <flipstone> Hi, anyone had allready the problem that if you start the adept manager, it won't do it because another program is using the database and according to me no other program is running?
[12:08] <keisangi> contrast83, perfect :) thanks a lot :)
[12:08] <contrast83> keisangi: np
[12:08] <pag> !aptfix | flipstone
[12:08] <ubotu> flipstone: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:08] <contrast83> keisangi: are you using trevino's repo?
[12:08] <Maxdamantus> It would've been my 40gb that took the most shock.
[12:08] <keisangi> contrast83, yes i do
[12:08] <Maxdamantus> Anyway, where can I get these hiren tools.
[12:09] <Maxdamantus> Brb if I DC.
[12:09] <flipstone> tnx :-)
[12:09] <Maxdamantus> Nvm about the brb.
[12:09] <server_> hi can any one pm me and noes about postfix email server setup for kubuntu
[12:09] <contrast83> keisangi: <FusioBot> A guide to building Compiz and Compiz Fusion from GIT: http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=758
[12:10] <keisangi> contrast83, i have another wierd question maybe you could help ? i was searching a way to setup this in kde:  if i double click on desktop root window, it would trigger an action .. for exemple starting a new dolphin process .. do you think is feasible ?
[12:10] <contrast83> keisangi: i'd recommend that over trev's repo. much less buggy, and it's always up to date
[12:10] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: http://rapidshare.com/files/46783403/Hirens_BootCD_9.2.rar
[12:10] <keisangi> contrast83, that for the info i will try GIt
[12:10] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: But hiren tools can be a BIT of illegal... because have copyrighted apps...
[12:10] <Maxdamantus> Aw, that means I'll have to have my computer off.
[12:10] <server_> hi can any one pm me and noes about postfix email server setup for kubuntu
[12:10] <waltercool> exactly
[12:10] <waltercool> and boot it
[12:11] <contrast83> keisangi: hmm... i'm sure it's possible, but not without a fair deal of hacking, i'd say... there might already be an app for something like that though
[12:11] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Use DOS apps
[12:11] <Maxdamantus> I'll do it tomorrow, leave it going while I'm at school.
[12:11] <Maxdamantus> DOS apps?
[12:11] <contrast83> keisangi: now that i think about it, i think that might be possible with compiz. hang on...
[12:11] <keisangi> contrast83, couldn't find a way so far
[12:11] <Maxdamantus> I don't have a DOS based OS.
[12:11] <keisangi> contrast83, great tnx :)
[12:12] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: U need boot the CD (the file have a ISO)... this have DOS
[12:12] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[12:12] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Have win98 lite edition xDDD
[12:12] <Maxdamantus> What would I want that for?
[12:12] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: The apps in ISO here: http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
[12:13] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: I use it for resize main ext3 of my kubuntu when i need it xD
[12:13] <Maxdamantus> Why not use Linux?
[12:13] <Maxdamantus> Parted can do that.
[12:14] <Maxdamantus> Or GParted, which is included on the LiveCD.
[12:14] <waltercool> and for / partition?
[12:14] <Maxdamantus> No, parted and gparted are on the LiveCD.
[12:14] <waltercool> i take less time booting Hiren tools... xD
[12:14] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: LiveCD takes it time...
[12:14] <Maxdamantus> I'd feel safer letting Linux handle my disks than DOS.
[12:14] <Maxdamantus> Takes it's time?
[12:15] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: yeah... take 3 min in load the boot
[12:15] <Maxdamantus> Use a different CD then, which doesn't use a GUI.
[12:15] <flipstone> fixed it, but what is the best way anyway to add/remove programs?
[12:15] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: In hiren tools this load in 10 secs?
[12:15] <Maxdamantus> Gentoo minimal CD ftw
[12:15] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Haha... i never can make work gentoo... installer drop me a error xD
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> The automatic one?
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> Don't use that.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> It's really easy to install it manually.
[12:16] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Console installer and GUI installer...
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> Just DL the stage3 and portage archives.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> Extract the stage3 to the partition you want to put Gentoo on.
[12:17] <waltercool> and where i can found stage3?
[12:17] <contrast83> keisangi: well, you can make it so pushing a button at a screen *edge/corner* would execute a command. looks like that's the closest thing to that that compiz has though. (optionally with a modifier key also, so something like Alt+left-click at the top-right corner for example)
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> Then extract portage on there into the usr dir.
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> http://gentoo.org/
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> Check the mirrors list.
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> Then browse a mirror.
[12:17] <waltercool> i have extracted portage file... but stage3...
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> I have no idea how they compressed it so much.
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> Stage3 archive is a 104mb tar.bz3
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> bz2*
[12:18] <waltercool> :O
[12:18] <Maxdamantus> Which extracts to 650mb
[12:18] <Maxdamantus> Which is the Gentoo base operating system.
[12:18] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Gentoo is for me... the best dist... but takes toooooooooooooooooooooo time in compile things...
[12:18] <keisangi> contrast83, yes, that would be nice already i'll investgate for that too.. but i really wanted this feature .. doublle click on the desktop  trigger a new dolphin process
[12:18] <Maxdamantus> waltercool, emerge -av dpkg
[12:18] <keisangi> contrast83, but thanks for the help anyway :)
[12:18] <contrast83> np :-)
[12:18] <Maxdamantus> Then you can dpkg Debian packages.
[12:19] <contrast83> no icons on the desktop, i assume?
[12:19] <Maxdamantus> I'm gonna use that when I switch my main computer back to Gentoo.
[12:19] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: xDDD i know... but isnt the same of do a emerge xD
[12:19] <Maxdamantus> Emerge is elite anyway.
[12:19] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: u can update apps with emerge...
[12:20] <Maxdamantus> I think dpkg updates too.
[12:20] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: But... make a emerge openoffice xDD
[12:20] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: a day... 2 days compilating...?
[12:21] <Maxdamantus> Hell no.
[12:21] <Maxdamantus> Shouldn't take that long.
[12:21] <Maxdamantus> Just get the debian package anyway.
[12:21] <waltercool> i had do it xD
[12:21] <Maxdamantus> Which is why you use dpkg
[12:22] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: but use dpkg in gentoo... is like... do alien to rpm files xD
[12:22] <Maxdamantus> http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/2007.0/stages/
[12:22] <Maxdamantus> Those are stages for x86
[12:22] <hamadooo> guys i want to know what is the different between kbuntu  and ubuntu
[12:22] <Maxdamantus> stage3-x86-2007.0.tar.bz2 is the latest.
[12:22] <waltercool> 103M
[12:22] <Maxdamantus> Gtg to bed anyway.
[12:22] <keisangi> contrast83, indeed .. no icons;)
[12:23] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: :O
[12:23] <waltercool> Maxdamantus: Good night?
[12:23] <server_> so does any one here noes about postfix
[12:23] <waltercool> hamadooo: Kubuntu use kde like enviroment... Ubuntu use Gnome like enviroment
[12:24] <kalorin> server_:  i do
[12:24] <bentob0x> hamadooo: Kubuntu = Ubuntu + KDE and Ubuntu = Ubuntu + Gnome
[12:24] <hamadooo> is that the only different
[12:24] <server_> can you help me how to do this it getting me on my nerves lol
[12:24] <bentob0x> Xubuntu = Ubuntu + X
[12:24] <kalorin> and xbuntu = ubuntu + ?
[12:24] <keisangi> xfce
[12:24] <waltercool> X = XFCE
[12:24] <hamadooo> what is that
[12:24] <kalorin> server_: um... can you be more specific, ask the question, don't ask if you can ask the question
[12:24] <hamadooo> math
[12:24] <bentob0x> the only thing that is different across the versions is the windows manager
[12:25] <waltercool> google it xD
[12:25] <keisangi> another desktop environment
[12:25] <keisangi> a lighter one
[12:25] <contrast83> keisangi: that's how i was for a long time. i eventually got tired of docks though, and found a nice wallpaper that icons actually look *good* on - http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Lines?content=53167
[12:25] <hamadooo> so no one better than other .... only the desktop is different
[12:25] <bentob0x> sorry, desktop environment it is
[12:25] <server_> i need to no how to properly set the postfix on my ubuntu server and run it and creat a email and domain for it
[12:25] <kalorin> hamadooo: everyone is going to have a preference, I like KDE myself
[12:26] <hamadooo> i like gnome
[12:26] <kalorin> server: postfix.org
[12:26] <kalorin> read
[12:26] <contrast83> i replaced the icons in that splash screen with the ones i have on my desktop, so ksplash -> kdesktop is seamless :-D
[12:26] <server_> i did
[12:26] <server_> still doent tell me hwo to create email acconte for user's
[12:26] <kalorin> well I don't have all day to sit and try to walk you though every little nuance of your setup to get it doing all that
[12:27] <kalorin> for postfix?
[12:27] <kalorin> local delivery will require you to have a real local user
[12:27] <kalorin> alternatively, you can forward the email that would go to local users off site to another mail service/adderss
[12:28] <kalorin> the /etc/aliases file will allow that
[12:28] <kalorin> or you can use a virtual user table
[12:28] <kalorin> there's tons of ways to do the same thing
[12:28] <kalorin> the correct answer is your preference and what you want to do with it
[12:28] <kalorin> I run virtual user tables
[12:28] <kalorin> and a few local accounts
[12:29] <server_> ok
[12:29] <kalorin> it's likely easier to use the /etc/aliases file for forwarding email and just have postfix deliver it locally
[12:29] <keisangi> contrast83, here's mine
[12:29] <keisangi> http://keisangi.free.fr/nekosan.jpg
[12:29] <kalorin> but it means that postfix will have to touch the message 2x once to deliver locally and then again to forward it out
[12:30] <server_> ok i got the aliases whit my email in it
[12:30] <kalorin> do you have an MX record set up that points to your mail server for a domain?
[12:30] <server_> suposably i do have it
[12:30] <kalorin> so when I email server@<whateverdomain.com> does the internet know that your server is actually the mail handler for that domain?
[12:31] <kalorin> what's the domain name?
[12:31] <contrast83> keisangi: yeah, i see why you wouldn't want to clutter that with icons
[12:31] <keisangi> hehe
[12:31] <server_> my domain or the orther server
[12:31] <contrast83> keisangi: you *could* always make an invisible icon and put it in an easy-to-remember place. :-\
[12:31] <kalorin> the domain of the emails that you want to receive
[12:31] <keisangi> that's an idea ;)
[12:31] <contrast83> i mean, if you're only wanting one shortcut on the desktop
[12:31] <server_> gmail.com
[12:32] <server_> but i want to creat my own email and server domain
[12:32] <contrast83> but the text would still be an issue
[12:32] <keisangi> i have to go back home now, day off
[12:32] <keisangi> iu mean i've finishged my working day
[12:32] <kalorin> i should post my wallpaper
[12:32] <kalorin> perhaps at some point
[12:32] <keisangi> bbl
[12:32] <contrast83> peace
[12:32] <kalorin> really kick butt picture of rogue from the xmen off the islands of adventure park in florida
[12:32] <keisangi> and tnx a gain for the help contrast83
[12:32] <contrast83> np
[12:33] <kalorin> server then you need to register a domain name
[12:33] <kalorin> and set an MX record on it
[12:33] <server_> i got a domain name
[12:33] <kalorin> and get a static address
[12:33] <server_> that done also
[12:33] <kalorin> and put your postfix server on that address
[12:33] <server_> yeah and i did that but no respond from postfix
[12:33] <kalorin> and then configure it to know what do when it receives email for that domain
[12:34] <kalorin> what's the domain name that you registered?
[12:34] <kalorin> and what's the ip address of your postfix server
[12:34] <server_> platinumforums.sytes.net
[12:35] <server_> it run my ftp and web site now just need it for email server
[12:35] <kalorin> well it's not set up right
[12:35] <kalorin> jhoffman@hawk:~/Desktop$ dig -t MX sytes.net
[12:35] <kalorin> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
[12:35] <kalorin> sytes.net.              60      IN      MX      10 mail2.no-ip.com.
[12:35] <kalorin> sytes.net.              60      IN      MX      5 mail1.no-ip.com.
[12:36] <kalorin> so as far as the interwebthingy is concerned, any mail going to *@sytes.net shoudl be delivered to the server amil2.no-ip.com
[12:36] <kalorin> no ip.com as you would imagine is a fake name
[12:36] <kalorin> ergo, your mail ain't going where you want it to go
[12:36] <kalorin> now go google for MX records and DNS
[12:36] <kalorin> and read up on that
[12:37] <server_> ok
[12:42] <_4strO> yop yop
[12:59] <benni> hallo+
[01:03] <mydocument> allo
[01:11] <chaKKo_1521> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=1521
[01:11] <phimic> hi all
[01:12] <phimic> apt-get install beagle returns a error adduser: the GID 65534 does not exist
[01:12] <phimic> i use kubuntu 7.04 x86
[01:16] <waltercool> hi there... i have a biiig problem :S someone can help me?
[01:16] <tobias_> depends on the problem I'd say
[01:16] <waltercool> im stucked in 800x600... i can choose 1280x1024, but when i restart X, resolution is 800x600 again :S
[01:17] <waltercool> i hate this $%"$ res
[01:18] <waltercool> u know how solve that?
[01:18] <tobias_> give me a sec
[01:18] <tobias_> you know how to edit your xorg.conf ?
[01:19] <tobias_> well anyway I am kinda new to kubuntu as well, but it might be there
[01:19] <tobias_> konsole: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:19] <waltercool> i have 1280x1024 only...
[01:19] <tobias_> then look for the section "generic monitor"
[01:20] <waltercool> i have removed all another resolutions
[01:20] <tobias_> mhhhhhhm
[01:20] <tobias_> thats weird
[01:20] <tobias_> sorry, cant help you with that then
[01:20] <waltercool> xDD
[01:20] <waltercool> thanks so xD
[01:20] <tobias_> no problem for nothing =)
[01:20] <tobias_> good luck with it
[01:20] <tobias_> and feel free to query me if you got the answer ;D
[01:20] <dice14u> waltercool whats your vid card
[01:22] <waltercool> dice14u: nvidia
[01:22] <waltercool> dice14u: i have installed nvidia-glx
[01:22] <waltercool> wait...
[01:26] <waltercool> :(
[01:26] <dice14u> :-(
[01:26] <dice14u> :-p
[01:27] <waltercool> u know how fix this? :)
[01:32] <waltercool> ok... using nvidia like device... i have 800x600... using nv like device... i have any resolution
[01:33] <waltercool> why that?
[01:35] <DarkED> http://darked.toddkleinert.com/mg/pictures/leopardtaskbarkde2.jpg <-- leopard dock FTW
[01:37] <gurrio> hi, i'm runing feisty and i want to try kde4, but it seems that there are some dependencies problems with kdepimlibs4 and kdepimlibs5, what can i do?
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> DarkED: thats Mac OS though!
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> I think....
[01:43] <DarkED> nosrednaekim: nope
[01:43] <DarkED> KDE 3.5.7 kubuntu dude
[01:44] <DarkED> :)
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> wow.... what theme?
[01:44] <DarkED> well... i made the menubar
[01:44] <DarkED> it's a bitmap imagine
[01:44] <DarkED> er... image* sorry
[01:44] <DarkED> been a long night
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> lol.. but how about the rest?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> I don't use menubars.
[01:45] <DarkED> real transparency doesn't look 'correct' so i made a background image for fake transparency
[01:45] <boris_> how do i install kde codecs for amarok im using gnome currently
[01:45] <DarkED> um the dock is avant window navigator... i've changed some settings to make it look like the leopard dock
[01:45] <DarkED> you use gconf-editor to change the angle and icon settings
[01:46] <DarkED> the iconset is OS-L
[01:46] <DarkED> and then kwin-baghira
[01:46] <DarkED> er, for the windows
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> impressive!
[01:47] <DarkED> thanks
[01:47] <DarkED> the windows look like crap, but meh
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> really?I thought they looked nice
[01:50] <server_> does any one noes what exchange server is
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> what are desktop applets running in? super karamba?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> server_: its for exchanging emails and scheduling stuff.
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> groupware
[01:52] <hsn_> how can i read .chm in kde?
[01:53] <trekdanne> hsn_: kchmviewer
[01:53] <server_> can you make a email server whit it
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> server_: I'm not sure..... but its microsoft stuff
[01:55] <trekdanne> boris: amarok uses xine. so you need to install xine-codec packages
[01:55] <server_> no any thing for ubuntu i can make my own email server not from other server
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> DarkED: I see you are the typical high-school student :)
[01:57] <DarkED> nosrednaekim: ?
[01:57] <DarkED> dude i'm 22
[01:57] <server_> lol
[01:57] <DarkED> i've been out of high school since 03 :)
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> DarkED: whats with the task list then?
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> algebra exam..... apply for FAFSA
[01:58] <DarkED> nosrednaekim: because i'm trying to go to college
[01:58] <DarkED> i couldnt go after high school because i couldnt afford it
[01:59] <DarkED> now i'm in a position where i might actually be able to... but still, i missed fall semester anyways... gotta wait till spring
[01:59] <Denmaru> Greetings - is there a tutorial to change the NV-Driver to the ones made by Nvidia?
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> ah, ok. then I reall wasn;t that far off ;)
[01:59] <DarkED> :)
[02:00] <server_> hey what good to add to ubuntu server
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[02:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> Denmaru: those instructions use the restricted-manager, you will have to install it in Kubuntu
[02:02] <praecox> hello guys
[02:02] <trekdanne> hi praecox
[02:03] <praecox> can anyone help me out and tell what's the name of package which is responsible for Keyboard Layout entries in KDE -> System Settings -> Regional & Language?
[02:05] <Denmaru> aha? Well, I'm using kubuntu right now :3
[02:05] <server_> kubuntu rules
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> Denmaru: just warning you..
[02:06] <praecox> cause I now see empty list, not like here: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/images/C/kubuntu-regional-keyboardlayouts.png
[02:06] <Denmaru> That's fine :3
[02:06] <praecox> I believe there's something missing.
[02:08] <server_> what the command for kubuntu for installing vcl player
[02:12] <Denmaru> hhm.. it tells me to use the "Restricted Dvices Manager"  -  but I can't find it on my kubuntu installation. Any ideas?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> Denmaru: exactly what I was saying
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"
[02:14] <praecox> anyone got a clue regarding Keyboard Layout?
[02:15] <Denmaru> Ah, I'm sorry, I must have overread that one
[02:15] <tOWLie> how can i change my desktop resolution in kubuntu ?
[02:16] <server_> go to system setting
[02:16] <trekdanne> praecox: hmm strange
[02:16] <trekdanne> praecox: do you have xkb files under /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols
[02:17] <praecox> trekdanne, I know it is. I believe it has been deleted by accident.
[02:17] <tOWLie> how can i change my desktop resolution in kubuntu ?
[02:17] <praecox> trekdanne, yes, I do.
[02:17] <praecox> # ls -1 /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols |wc -l
[02:17] <praecox> 99
[02:18] <tOWLie> is it possible to set my resolution to 1280x1024@70
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> tOWLie: its in system-settings->monitor
[02:18] <W1ZrD> can I upload whole folders (and subfolders) from workstation to server via command line ssh?
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> Denmaru: no problem
[02:18] <praecox> tOWLie, KDE -> System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[02:18] <tOWLie> yes i fund that but the highest resolution i can change to is 1024x768@75
[02:19] <tOWLie> but i need 1280x102470
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> W1ZrD: yeah, use either fish from within konqueror, or scp from the command line
[02:19] <praecox> W1ZrD, scp -r
[02:19] <tOWLie> but i need 1280x1024@0
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> tOWLie: what type of video card do you have?
[02:19] <tOWLie> ati
[02:19] <tOWLie> x300
[02:19] <tOWLie> in windows this resolution works great
[02:20] <W1ZrD> How would the line look like from ip 1.2.3 to ip 5.5.5 if I want the folder (and subfolders) "directory"?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> tOWLie: get the "restricted-manager" and get the ati drivers using that.
[02:22] <tOWLie> the restricted-manager is already installed ?
[02:22] <tOWLie> how i can i start it ?
[02:23] <trekdanne> praecox: maybe something wrong with your Xorg.conf ?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> "kdesu restricted-manager"
[02:25] <tOWLie> ok i have to restar
[02:25] <tOWLie> see u soon i hope so.. :)
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> ok
[02:25] <praecox> trekdanne, I don't think so, I reconfigured entire xserver-xorg (using dpkg-reconfigure) and set it up again.
[02:25] <W1ZrD> scp /my/workstation/my-files host@server: /my/server/my-files <-- would that be correct?
[02:26] <praecox> W1ZrD, 141849 < praecox> W1ZrD, scp -r
[02:26] <praecox> W1ZrD, use -r and without space after :
[02:26] <praecox> W1ZrD, scp -r /my/workstation/my-files host@server:/my/server/my-files
[02:26] <praecox> W1ZrD, this is correct.
[02:27] <W1ZrD> brilliant, I'll give that a try then, it should copy the entire dir (including .hidden)?
[02:28] <tOWLie> back again :)
[02:28] <tOWLie> yes now it works :)
[02:28] <praecox> so, noone can help me with Keyboard Layout?
[02:29] <tOWLie> thx nosrednaekim
[02:29] <trekdanne> praecox: maybe you know about this, but anyway: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kxkb/kxkb.pdf
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> tOWLie: ok, great, and now you have decent 3d acceleration too
[02:29] <tOWLie> perfect
[02:29] <tOWLie> do i need something like a firewall or virusscanner ?
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> tOWLie: No problem, just doing my part :)
[02:29] <tOWLie> and sorry for all this nooby questions :)
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> tOWLie: firewall wouldn't be a bad idea.
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> virus scanner isn't neccesary
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> tOWLie: they are easier than the non-nooby questions ;)
[02:30] <tOWLie> and firewall ?
[02:30] <server_> what the command for a good virus scanner for kubuntu
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> !firewall
[02:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> there you go, Gaurddog
[02:31] <tOWLie> thx
[02:31] <server_> what the command for a good virus scanner for kubuntu
[02:32] <stdin> server_: why would you need one?
[02:32] <server_> hum to keep server good shape i guess
[02:33] <stdin> server_: so you serve windows clients?
[02:33] <server_> hell no
[02:33] <anticitizen1> Hi, i have 2 questions about Kubuntu. 1. Is it safe to run it without a antivurs program?  2. Can I install and run  BERYL with Kubuntu?
[02:33] <stdin> server_: then you don't need one
[02:34] <server_> ok
[02:34] <stdin> anticitizen1: 1) yes, 2) yes :)
[02:34] <server_> what good to put on kubuntu server
[02:34] <stdin> server_: anything you want
[02:34] <anticitizen1> Thank You!
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> yes to both
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> server_: then its uneccesary
[02:35] <server_> hum im trying to get vlc player dont no the apt-get command for it
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> "apt-get install vlc"
[02:35] <server_> it says cant find package everytime i try
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> you need to enable all the repositories
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> !info vlc
[02:36] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[02:36] <server_> event not found
[02:36] <stdin> !repos
[02:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:36] <praecox> trekdanne, well, I found symbols.dir.dpkg-old in /etc/X11/xkb/
[02:36] <praecox> trekdanne, and it's files. maybe that's from missing packages?
[02:36] <ubuntu> HI
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> hello
[02:37] <stdin> server_: you don't put the command, you read what ubotu says. any message starting with a '!' is a message to ubotu to print a message
[02:37] <praecox> trekdanne, what was the command to check what package's files come from?
[02:37] <stdin> praecox: dpkg -S filename ?
[02:38] <phik> hi there ;)
[02:38] <phik> anyone knows how to use splashy?
[02:39] <praecox> stdin, oh, right. thx.
[02:39] <praecox> silly me.
[02:39] <server_> lol
[02:39] <animimotus> hi
[02:39] <animimotus> what do U use to exact flac files with the initial cue?
[02:39] <tOWLie> can i hide a partition like sda1 ?
[02:39] <tOWLie> cuz this is my windows partition
[02:39] <tOWLie> i dont wanna see this in mein kubuntu :)
[02:40] <tOWLie> ?
[02:40] <mickey_> sorry hello i ave question
[02:40] <animimotus> tOWLie: don't mount it
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> ask away
[02:41] <mickey_> for the noob linux i must begin bye kubuntu or mandiva 2007
[02:41] <mickey_> ?
[02:41] <tOWLie> how can i dismount it ?
[02:41] <mickey_> sorry for my english hihi
[02:42] <mickey_> ?
[02:42] <animimotus> tOWLie: for instance sudo umount /media/xp/
[02:42] <dice14u> help someone my beryl white screens
[02:42] <dice14u> when I turn on beryl all i get is a white screen and the ability to move around my mouse
[02:42] <animimotus> tOWLie: then edit your fstab to disallow the line right line
[02:43] <mickey_> FOR BEGINNER MANDRIVA OR KUBUNTU?
[02:43] <animimotus> mickey_: oO
[02:43] <animimotus> Kubuntu
[02:44] <mickey_> can i ave an answer?
[02:44] <tackat> mickey_: mandriva! /me runs
[02:44] <server_> kubuntu
[02:44] <mickey_> ok mandriva is to hard to kubuntu?
[02:44] <stdin> mickey_: kubuntu is better for beginners
[02:45] <mickey_> ok thanks all people
[02:45] <mickey_> ave a nice day bye
[02:45] <server_> bb
[02:51] <tOWLie> are the some better instant messenger for icq protocal than kopete and gaim ?
[02:52] <stdin> !im
[02:52] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:52] <stdin> tOWLie: hmm, search adept for instant message
[02:52] <tOWLie> k
[02:52] <tOWLie> great guys around here
[02:52] <tOWLie> fast help
[02:52] <tOWLie> incredible :)
[02:53] <stdin> we try :)
[02:53] <praecox> ok, I figured it out.
[02:53] <praecox> I've got Keyboard Layout working, thanks.
[02:54] <gherring> to everyone involved in the KDE project : Thank You  :)
[02:56] <W1ZrD> praecox: the scp -r did the trick, wonderful, thnx for the help
[02:57] <gherring> I'm having a problem with Konqueror displaying Gmail...it looks really garbled  :(
[02:57] <flipstone> anyone ever tried to install a brother dcp 110 printer on kubuntu amd64?
[02:57] <flipstone> :-)
[02:57] <gherring> I've tried spoofing other clients, but then I'm missing features in gmail that I want
[02:58] <stdin> g
[02:58] <stdin> gherring: have you enabled javascript in konq?
[02:59] <gherring> under tools I have java script enabled, not java
[02:59] <dice14u> anyone know why beryl will white screen xgl + ati radeon xpress 1100?
[02:59] <gherring> trying that....
[03:00] <gherring> ok..still 'garbled'...I don't know if I have proper java....should I use Blackdown or sun?
[03:02] <stdin> gherring: maybe try with http://mail.google.com/mail/?nocheckbrowser
[03:02] <gherring> is there any documentation on proper install and version of java I should use?  trying nocheck browser....brb
[03:03] <tOWLie> how can i install this kde style ?? ---> http://www.speleoalex.altervista.org/home/index.php?mod=download
[03:04] <gherring> when I clicked that link...i have a rapidly bouncing konqueror icon and it want stop  :(
[03:06] <[GuS] > lol... xp style? :Pp
[03:06] <tOWLie> :)
[03:06] <[GuS] > then KDE will look uggly :P
[03:08] <gherring> ok...the no check brower link with default identification looks good in KDE - better than the garbled  version  :)
[03:09] <gherring> but then I'm missing gchat on the side.  I know I can use kopete, but I kind of wanted konqeror to 'konquer' the problem
[03:10] <gherring> p.s. - still have rapid bouncing cursor next to mouse point after clicking that link....want go away
[03:10] <BluesKaj> gherring: looking for an irc chat client ?
[03:11] <iM`> i got this .iso kubuntu from a friend
[03:11] <iM`> how to install it ?
[03:11] <gherring> i like konversation, want the gchat for selected friends
[03:11] <BluesKaj> ok
[03:11] <trekdanne> IM`, burn it to a CD
[03:11] <trekdanne> !install
[03:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:11] <iM`> its already in the cd
[03:12] <gherring> thank you BluesKaj
[03:12] <iM`> !auatomate
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about auatomate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <iM`> !automate
[03:12] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[03:12] <trekdanne> ah you need to boot your computer from the CD
[03:12] <iM`> so that .iso file alone is bootable?
[03:12] <gherring> brb....need to get rid of this bouncing cursor...
[03:12] <trekdanne> try to press delete or Escape during boot up
[03:13] <iM`> y/n?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> yes iM`...it's prolly a live cd with install options
[03:13] <trekdanne> iM`, actually no. the .iso file describes the content of the CD. if you have a CD with a iso-file on it you will need to burn it to another CD...
[03:14] <iM`> its not a live cd
[03:14] <iM`> i guess i have to burn it to another cd.
[03:15] <iM`> trekdanne wat distro are u using
[03:15] <BluesKaj> iM`: do you have your BIOS boot sequence setup to boot from the cdrom first?
[03:16] <iM`> unfortunately i forgot my bios pass
[03:16] <BluesKaj> otherwise burning to another cd won't make any difference
[03:16] <trekdanne> im`: kubuntu :)
[03:16] <iM`> yes the 1st boot is cd
[03:16] <r3> hello .. me got this tricku quiestion
[03:16] <r3> tricky
[03:16] <trekdanne> iM`: then it will probably work fine
[03:17] <r3> xgl - video on displany and tv  ..... kde - video on display but blank screen on tv .... any ideas ?
[03:17] <r3> what i mean is
[03:18] <r3> both displays (lcd and tv ) work in both
[03:18] <BluesKaj> kubuntu iso files are supposed to be bootable live cds
[03:18] <r3> the difference is when i play video files
[03:19] <trekdanne> r3: what gfx-card are you using?
[03:19] <r3> trekdanne = ati mobility x200
[03:20] <r3> its just weird it runs under xgl fine
[03:22] <iM`> BluesKaj it doesnt boot
[03:22] <trekdanne> r3: not that familiar with ati's card though, I assume you have the latest ati binary drivers installed
[03:23] <trekdanne> iM`, do you have a CD with a iso-file on it, or did you burn the iso-file to a CD?
[03:23] <r3> id rather not .. im happy with those that ubuntu downloads and installs as proprietary
[03:23] <r3> i tried ati.com few time.. but its just a way too bad support
[03:23] <BluesKaj> iM`: then do what trekdanne suggested , copy it to another cd
[03:24] <r3> whats da problem ?
[03:24] <r3> i mean with iM
[03:24] <BluesKaj> but i think you have to make it bootable, iM`
[03:25] <iM`> thats what im doing ryt now
[03:26] <trekdanne> !ati
[03:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:26] <canihojr> wenas
[03:26] <r3> trekdanne - the ati is doing its job very poorly ... its not an issue that i would not be capable of installing it
[03:26] <BluesKaj> r3: what tv app are you using ?
[03:26] <r3> no tv app
[03:27] <canihojr> algun spaol? necesito ayuda con sources.list.....
[03:27] <r3> its laptop connected to tv
[03:27] <BluesKaj> !es | canihojr
[03:27] <ubotu> canihojr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:27] <canihojr> gracias :)
[03:27] <trekdanne> r3: "The TV-Out functionality may not work with the open source drivers; if you don't have TV-Out or don't want to use it, however, then you probably don't need to use fglrx. ". I suggest installing the ati binary drivers
[03:28] <trekdanne> r3: the ubuntu guide is pretty straight-forward
[03:28] <r3> heloooooooooooooooo .. its working in xgl .. and its not working under kde ( the point is that it is working )
[03:28] <r3> just wanna know why kde f&ck3$ up
[03:29] <BluesKaj> fglrx driver?
[03:29] <trekdanne> r3: hmm probably not kde's fault
[03:29] <r3> bluesKaj - good point :D
[03:29] <r3> but -- both XGL and KDE works with tv
[03:29] <trekdanne> i think xgl uses some different drivers
[03:29] <BluesKaj> no r3 , i'm asking ?
[03:30] <r3> the only difference is that VIDEO *.avi playback
[03:30] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg
[03:30] <r3> BluesKaj - I installed the automatic proprietary driver i guess
[03:30] <r3> yeah i guess its ffmpeg
[03:32] <BluesKaj> r3 , dunno if this will help you , I ran this tutorial , now i have 3D DRI and tvtime all working on my ati x200G : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[03:32] <r3> when we talk about xgl -- compiz works fine .. yet boson claims there is no 3d support :D
[03:34] <r3> 8.35.5 - is that current
[03:34] <r3> ?
[03:34] <r3> those eakamai.net used to be best drivers for ati
[03:34] <r3> i know that for sure ... first time i got my beryl on only with those drivers and no else
[03:35] <BluesKaj> it's a patched and modded driver ..the current proprietary ati driver doesn't work anyway
[03:35] <BluesKaj> on feisty that is
[03:36] <r3> to be honest .. i would hate to mess up  my current config ..   just dont wanna reinstall the whole system again
[03:37] <r3> is there such thing as restore point on ubuntu ?
[03:37] <BluesKaj> not into beryl, but i luuv my ggogle earth
[03:37] <r3> blueskaj - your ati isnt mobility right ?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> nope, pc
[03:38] <r3> damn  ...
[03:38] <r3> never mind
[03:38] <BluesKaj> not much diff , from what i've heard
[03:38] <r3> im looking forward to throw my f&&&&ng HP out of the window soon anyway
[03:38] <r3> i will never ever buy hp again
[03:39] <dice14u> I hate beryl
[03:39] <BluesKaj> not HP, r3, ati is the culprit
[03:39] <MaTiAz> yeah
[03:39] <Insane`KDE> !imwheel
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imwheel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <BluesKaj> lotsa HPs with nvidia cards that rock
[03:39] <Insane`KDE> !info imwheel
[03:39] <ubotu> imwheel: program to support non-standard buttons on new mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0pre12-7 (feisty), package size 79 kB, installed size 268 kB
[03:39] <r3> no its not - hp chooses bad hw -  problems with wi-fi, sd reader, and so on ... its ok now.. but it took a long time
[03:40] <Insane`KDE> !extramouse
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extramouse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <r3> any idea what is an average W consumption of an LAptop ?
[03:41] <r3> ( blueskaj - thnx for the site anyway ) i might try it later
[03:42] <BluesKaj> np, r3.. good luck with it
[03:44] <r3> blueskaj - no such thing as restore point (like in doze ) under ubuntu ?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> not that i'm aware , r3
[03:46] <r3> ok ... thnx
[03:47] <aymnmz> bonjour !
[03:48] <benni> hi!can somebody explain  how to mount an external ntfs drive to use the vmware machines on it, pls!
[03:48] <aymnmz> oups, it's an english canal ?!?
[03:48] <aymnmz> so, bye !
[03:48] <benni> i think so
[03:49] <happytiger> Howto remove pass word from root? So root doesnt have password. I happende to do sudo su --- and then passwd. So now my root has a pass. I dont want that want it back to none as before
[03:50] <stdin> happytiger: sudo passwd -d -l root
[03:50] <happytiger> thx stdin
[03:51] <mrksbrd> anyone know where i can get a list of sessions avail for d/l for ubuntu??
[03:51] <happytiger> stdin how to test it? Test that it really is not there?
[03:51] <stdin> happytiger: try "su -" see if you can login
[03:51] <happytiger> oki
[03:51] <happytiger> thx
[03:52] <happytiger> U da man
[03:52] <stdin> :)
[03:52] <stdin> mrksbrd: sessions?
[03:53] <mrksbrd> logon sessions
[03:53] <mrksbrd> like kde....gnome
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> ugh, nothing like losing power when you're 90% done converting a 400M video.
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> desktop environments and window managers
[03:55] <happytiger> Is it normal to have to /etc/password files? one called /etc/password-
[03:55] <happytiger> I am worried my server has been compromised
[03:55] <stdin> mrksbrd: for the officially supported ones, apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop
[03:55] <mrksbrd> ok ty
[03:55] <happytiger> to = two
[03:55] <stdin> happytiger: that's normal, the system makes a kind of cache of it
[03:55] <happytiger> oki
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> kde, gnome, xfce, fluxbox, icewm, windowmaker, enlightenment, CDE for the really masochistic...
[03:55] <stdin> happytiger: you'll also have one for /etc/shadow and /etc/group
[03:58] <harmental> guys...what about google talk for linux??
[03:59] <Insane`KDE> I need help configuring my mouse
[03:59] <dhq> Insane`KDE, what seems to be the problem
[03:59] <Insane`KDE> I've opened up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tried editing it, but I can't seem to get it to work
[03:59] <dhq> Insane`KDE, what kind of mouse
[03:59] <Insane`KDE> I'm on a laptop, and I have a scroll wheel but no middle mouse button, and I basically want to take that out
[04:00] <Insane`KDE> No matter what I do, scrolling down on teh scroll wheel is recognized as middle mouse button
[04:01] <dhq> Insane`KDE, i had the same problem but i changed something there
[04:02] <Insane`KDE> Here's my xorg.conf extract: Highlighted lines were added by me
[04:02] <Insane`KDE> http://pastebin.org/179
[04:03] <Insane`KDE> The thing is, I sometimes connect a normal usb mouse onto the laptop, and I think the top half that text is meant for the other mouse, so I'm not sure
[04:03] <mrksbrd> na that wasn't what i was looking for........i guess what i mean is different desktop environment selections b4 i log-in
[04:03] <tOWLie> hmm i have installed truecrypt but i cant find it anywhere
[04:04] <tOWLie> how can i start it 
[04:05] <SeanTater> I want to slice and dice some video files.. and so farI can't find a program that keeps the audio and video in sync.. What programs are there available to do this?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> tOWLie: type it in the terminal
[04:07] <Insane`KDE> Again, how can I configure this file to remove the middle mouse button completely? http://pastebin.org/179 (highlighted lines were added by me)
[04:11] <tOWLie> if i want to mount sdb1 into /.../musik what i have to do ?
[04:11] <tOWLie> ^^ BluesKaj
[04:16] <Insane`KDE> Here's my problem: http://pastebin.org/182
[04:16] <Insane`KDE> I tried adding "Buttons" "4", but it's still the same
[04:16] <Insane`KDE> It could be that I'm editing the wrong section
[04:29] <Insane`KDE> !mouse
[04:29] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:29] <mhb> hello fellow kubuntuers. Do you know of a KDE/Kubuntu app similar to Photo Booth from OS X?
[04:29] <Insane`KDE> Can anybody help me configure my laptop mouse?
[04:29] <Insane`KDE> Is anybody here at all or is this channel completely dead!??
[04:29] <mhb> Insane`KDE: it looks dead to me :o)
[04:29] <mecannotread> hai
[04:29] <x_link> Hi
[04:29] <x_link> How can I make a shortcut for kControl to my desktop?
[04:29] <Insane`KDE> Does anybody have experience configuring mice?
[04:29] <happytiger> cricket:x:120:127::/var/lib/cricket:/bin/false
[04:29] <happytiger> is that a normal user?
[04:29] <x_link> Can somebody please help me with that?
[04:29] <praecox> no normal user would call himself cricket.
[04:29] <praecox> so the answer is: no.
[04:29] <happytiger> damn
[04:29] <happytiger> I thinl I need reinstall som emahcines
[04:29] <happytiger> damn damn damn
[04:29] <happytiger> Ohh well at least I know .-)
[04:29] <Insane`KDE> Does anybody here have any experience whatsoever configuring mice or do I have to ask in #ubuntu?
[04:29] <sfire> Insane`KDE: configure how?
[04:29] <hasan> ?
[04:29] <hasan> kcontrol _
[04:29] <hasan> ?
[04:29] <Insane`KDE> Make buttons do what they're supposed to
[04:29] <Insane`KDE> Ie. remap them
[04:29] <Insane`KDE> I've tried modyfing xorg.conf but no luck there
[04:29] <Man_U> how can i auto identify my nick in konversation?
[04:29] <sfire> System Settings ----> keyboard&mouse
[04:29] <happytiger> How to seen when a user ha been created?
[04:30] <Insane`KDE> sfire: Nothing there
[04:30] <hasan> kcontrol search for mouse
[04:30] <happytiger> I meant how to see the creation date of a user account
[04:31] <jhutchins> praecox: Um, yeah.  Like no normal user would call himself praecox.
[04:31] <Insane`KDE> kcontrol, is that a package?
[04:31] <jhutchins> praecox: It's probably an account created for a program.  Note that the shell is /bin/false.
[04:31] <hasan> KStart button ->run command->kcontrol
[04:32] <hasan> or alt+f2 if u have not changed shortcuts
[04:32] <jhutchins> happytiger: find out what package owns /var/lib/cricket
[04:32] <hasan> i have changed them so that i can run it with win+r
[04:32] <Insane`KDE> So It comes with kubuntu? Good.
[04:32] <praecox> jhutchins, it was a bit ironic. ;)
[04:32] <hasan> yep
[04:32] <hasan> it's installed with kubuntu
[04:33] <happytiger> cricket:!:13720:0:99999:7:::  an entry like this in /etc/shadows does that mean the accoutn has a blank pass?
[04:33] <hasan> kubuntu is based on kde
[04:33] <Insane`KDE> hasan: There's nothing there
[04:33] <happytiger> jhutchin how to determine which package own a dir?
[04:34] <hasan> if u are used to use windows i suggest you to use winlike shortcuts
[04:34] <jhutchins> happytiger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[04:34] <hasan> are u a newbie kubuntu user ?
[04:34] <miles> admiral ackbar says, "its a trap!"
[04:34] <Insane`KDE> I uploaded my xorg.conf extract, if you wanna take a look at that. http://pastebin.org/182
[04:35] <Insane`KDE> The highlighted lines were added by me
[04:35] <miles> pastebin oh yea
[04:35] <jhutchins> happytiger: dpkg -l /car/lib/cricket
[04:35] <jhutchins> er, var.
[04:35] <hasan> Insane what do u wnat to change exactly ?
[04:36] <Insane`KDE> hasan: I want to remove the middle mouse button completely, and make the mouse wheel work
[04:36] <hasan> as far as i can see there are so many options available for configuring mouse in kcontrol
[04:36] <happytiger> hmm seems i need reformat my machine def someone has been in here
[04:37] <hasan> Insane: i donno how to do that sorry
[04:37] <Insane`KDE> hasan: I have a laptop mouse, with only four buttons. Problem is they're mapped incorrectly
[04:37] <happytiger> dpkg -l shows no packages having made that dir
[04:37] <miles> oic
[04:37] <happytiger> Damn my machine was finally running so smooth
[04:37] <miles> Insane, as soon as you figure that out, let me know
[04:37] <happytiger> Gotta start all over
[04:37] <happytiger> :-)
[04:37] <miles> i wanna map my mouse to reformat my machine when i click a certain button
[04:38] <flipstone> now comes a stupid question, how do i use lilo as the boot manager
[04:38] <tOWLie> how can i set, that also non-root users can use truecrypt volumes ?
[04:38] <miles> !lilo | flipstone
[04:38] <ubotu> flipstone: lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[04:38] <Insane`KDE> !mouse | miles
[04:38] <ubotu> miles: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:38] <miles> word up
[04:38] <khaije|bb> happytiger: why do you think yr machine was compromised?
[04:39] <miles> my scroll wheel can move up down left right
[04:40] <hasan> Insane: http://www.ale.org/pipermail/ale/20040217/006960.html maybe that may be usefull i donno
[04:40] <happytiger> .. /var/log/auth.log  tells me a user cricket has been logged in
[04:40] <flipstone> and how can i change the order of the different os'es in the grub?
[04:40] <jhutchins> !search cricket
[04:40] <ubotu> Found:
[04:41] <happytiger> Yeah I think I better just go home backup and start from scratch as I have thinks from work here that def should not get out
[04:42] <happytiger> This time I will look at security much more
[04:42] <tOWLie> how can i set, that also non-root users can use truecrypt volumes ?
[04:42] <happytiger> Standard kubuntu install didnt cut it :-)
[04:42] <happytiger> Thx for the help guys
[04:42] <Insane`KDE> With what keyboard combo do I restart the Xserver? Ctrl + Alt + Backspace?
[04:42] <cloakable> Yes
[04:43] <Insane`KDE> Damnit, still can't get it to work
[04:44] <Insane`KDE> I did "xmodmap -e "mouse = 1 2 3 4""
[04:44] <Insane`KDE> Oh, why does linux overcomplicate such simple things?
[04:46] <Insane`KDE> DAMNIT
[04:46] <Insane`KDE> Now I have only two working mouse buttons
[04:46] <Insane`KDE> I managed to deactivate my second mouse buttons completely, now I only have mousewheel down, which is recognized as middle mouse, and normal click
[04:48] <Insane`KDE> If this continues I'll have to scrap my laptop's touchpad/mouse and buy a new one...
[04:48] <Cratos> u
[04:48] <Insane`KDE> Just because Xserver won't remap the damn ekys.....
[04:49] <Insane`KDE> MAybe I could just open up my laptop and reconnect the wires manually
[04:49] <Insane`KDE> Anybody here have experience opening a laptop?
[04:50] <cloakable> Insane`KDE: IBM ones, aye.
[04:50] <jhutchins> Insane`KDE: I think you should go back to windows.  You're obviously not happy with the options linux gives you.
[04:50] <tOWLie> how can i change the permissions for a folder ?
[04:50] <strabes> tOWLie: with a gui?
[04:51] <tOWLie> jo
[04:51] <tOWLie> yes
[04:51] <strabes> tOWLie: you can just use sudo chmod -R XXX /path/to/folder
[04:51] <strabes> it's easier to just use the command line
[04:51] <tOWLie> what means the XXX ?
[04:51] <strabes> but yo uhave to use the -R flag to make it recursive
[04:51] <strabes> tOWLie: they're the permission numbers
[04:51] <Ace2016> Insane`KDE: what are you trying to do?
[04:52] <Insane`KDE> Ace2016: Make my laptop touchpad keys do what they're supposed to, ie. remap them
[04:52] <tOWLie> cuz everytime i mount a volume with truecrypt the mountfolder is not accessable with konquerer
[04:52] <strabes> tOWLie: it might be mounted as readable only by root
[04:52] <Insane`KDE> Ace2016: Since I didn't get it to work software wise after 3 hours of editing xorg.conf and installing packages, I'm resorting to unscrewing my laptop and manually connecting the wires
[04:52] <strabes> tOWLie: is it in your /etc/fstab or are you just automagically mounting it
[04:53] <tOWLie> no i mountet it with the terminal
[04:53] <strabes> Insane`KDE: what do you mean by "laptop touchpad keys"
[04:53] <tOWLie> and it is really set to read root only
[04:53] <strabes> tOWLie: you probably mounted it with the wrong permissions. what is the command you used?
[04:53] <tOWLie> truecrypt -i
[04:53] <jhutchins> My touchpads have always worked as expected by default.  I've had to mess with drivers for the pad itself, but the scroll functions work, and the buttons have never been a problem.
[04:54] <jhutchins> IBM, Winbook, Toshiba.
[04:54] <Insane`KDE> strabes: My mouse buttons
[04:54] <tOWLie> strabes ^^ pm
[04:54] <strabes> Insane`KDE: they don't work??
[04:54] <Insane`KDE> jhutchins: Basically my right mouse button does nothing, and my mouse wheel down button is recognized as middle button.
[04:55] <harmental> hey guys...i want to take control of a winxp machine over the internet....what software would you recommend?
[04:55] <Insane`KDE> strabes: Some of them don't work, others are recognized wrongly
[04:55] <Insane`KDE> I just want to simply remap them
[04:55] <Insane`KDE> Nothing complicated, just remap them
[04:55] <Insane`KDE> Ie. switch two mosue buttons' functions
[04:56] <jhutchins> Insane`KDE: Are you familiar with xev?
[04:56] <Ace2016> Insane`KDE: run xev from konsole, click the box, look at what button number in xev corresponds to what buttons, make a note of it,    in a new konsole tab run    xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7"  change the number order to change what the buttons do, once you get what you want add this to your xorg.conf       Option          "ButtonMapping"         "1 2 3 4 5 6 7"     with the order you came up with in the  section for your mouse
[04:58] <Insane`KDE> Ace2016: I did that and the two buttons that aren't recognized do nothing at all
[04:59] <mecannotread> hai        guys
[05:00] <strabes> how do I tell that my computer is recognizing a lid close event?
[05:00] <Ace2016> Insane`KDE: tried changing the driver?
[05:01] <Insane`KDE> Ace2016: No, but funnily enough all the buttons were recognized, but scrambled when I first started testing
[05:01] <Insane`KDE> Some change I did thoughout the process must've scrambled it
[05:01] <strabes> My laptop suspends and resumes perfectly when using the logout menu, but it will not suspend when the lid is closed even though it is set to do so in the kde power manager
[05:02] <strabes> any ideas?
[05:02] <jhutchins> Insane`KDE: Just restore the backup you made of your xorg.conf, it should go back to the way it was.
[05:03] <Ace2016> the backup you *should* have made
[05:04] <Insane`KDE> Ace2016: I did make a backup, at least Kate did automatically
[05:04] <jhutchins> Insane`KDE: Then again, if you used comments to preserve and document the changes you made, you could just reverse them.
[05:05] <Ace2016> Insane`KDE: which gets overwritten the second you save more than once
[05:05] <Insane`KDE> In fact I did all of that, backup, and the comments
[05:05] <jhutchins> strabes: Well, if your laptop handled the event as expected, it wouldn't be a problem.  We'd probably have to know the brand and model to start with.
[05:06] <Insane`KDE> And I have a copy of my latest working .conf in there too that gets written if booted succesfully
[05:06] <Insane`KDE> So yeah, I'm just doing a total reboot just to be sure now
[05:06] <strabes> it's a dell inspiron e1705. if "lock screen" is checked, it turns off the screen
[05:06] <Ace2016> Insane`KDE: try booting back into the liveCD and see if the buttons work, then copy that conf
[05:06] <jhutchins> Insane`KDE: Why would you reboot to just restart X?
[05:06] <Insane`KDE> jhutchins: Just because
[05:07] <cloakable> O.o
[05:07] <sbun> hey is anyone about?
[05:08] <jhutchins> !ask
[05:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:08] <strabes> jhutchins:  it's a dell inspiron e1705. if "lock screen" is checked, it turns off the screen
[05:08] <strabes> so obviously it's seeing the event
[05:08] <sbun> heh k
[05:08] <anticitizen1_> HELP needed, setting up an envida card, cause beryl is having problems with it-
[05:09] <jhutchins> strabes: I have yet to get into the docs for suspend/resume myself.
[05:09] <strabes> oh. thanks anyway
[05:09] <BluesKaj> !beryl | anticitizen1_
[05:09] <ubotu> anticitizen1_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:09] <jhutchins> anticitizen1_: If beryl is running, you've already set it up.
[05:09] <sbun> i've install kubuntu, trying to use wifi on a broadcom chipset, have it loaded with ndiswrapper. i used knetworkmanager to try to connect but it only gets to 28%
[05:10] <sbun> im using WPA also btw
[05:10] <anticitizen1_> im trying to install beryl, but it shows this error: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[05:10] <Ace2016> anticitizen1_: are the nvidia drivers installed and running?
[05:10] <jhutchins> !bck43xx | sbun
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bck43xx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <jhutchins> !bcm43xx | sbun
[05:10] <ubotu> sbun: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[05:11] <jhutchins> sbun: It's really easy.
[05:11] <anticitizen1_> Im not sureif theyre running. (Only 2 days running kubuntu & linux)
[05:11] <sbun> why does it start connecting and just stop though?
[05:11] <jhutchins> anticitizen1_: well, if beryl is loading, then you have GLX enabled.
[05:12] <jhutchins> sbun: Did you install the firmware cutter as it says to in the docs?
[05:12] <jhutchins> anticitizen1_: Beryl is very unstable and often doesn't work, it's not something you can easily fix.
[05:12] <sbun> no o_0
[05:12] <VSpike> I can't figure all this stuff like superkaramba, plasma, google gadgets, yahoo widgets, and all the other desktop accoutrements... I mean, I only see my desktop at login.  Is it just me missing the point?
[05:13] <anticitizen1_> really? cause when i type in a terminal beryl-manager its shows: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:13] <jhutchins> sbun: Read the docs, all will be revealed, you will be on-line shortly.
[05:13] <sbun> its a dual boot so i have to keep rebooting, reading the docs and going back
[05:13] <sbun> ok will do
[05:13] <VSpike> In all the screenshots, there are lovely clean desktops with no apps running
[05:13] <jhutchins> anticitizen1_: Ah, then bery is NOT running.
[05:13] <VSpike> All very well, but how often does that ever happen?
[05:13] <jhutchins> anticitizen1_: You do NOT have GLX enabled.
[05:13] <VSpike> Maybe I'm just being a grumpy old git
[05:13] <jhutchins> !nvidia | anticitizen1_
[05:13] <ubotu> anticitizen1_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <server_> any noes how to get and irc network working on ubuntu
[05:14] <anticitizen1_> how i can enable GTX?
[05:15] <jhutchins> anticitizen1_: Follow the directions in the URL above.
[05:15] <sbun> these are for ubuntu, im guessing they work the same for kubuntu?
[05:15] <jhutchins> sbun: Yes.
[05:15] <miles> hello
[05:15] <jhutchins> sbun: Wireless manager is a bit different iirc.
[05:15] <server_> lol
[05:16] <Man_U> some blender cracks here?
[05:16] <Insane`KDE> Ok, now I still need to know which device to alter in xorg.conf
[05:17] <Insane`KDE> I have about 5 different mice in my xorg.conf
[05:17] <sbun> is wpa_supplicant required with Knetworkmanager?
[05:17] <Insane`KDE> !mouse | Insane`KDE
[05:19] <anticitizen1_> how i can acces to the "Restricted Devices Manager"
[05:19] <VSpike> anticitizen1_: kdesu restricted-manager
[05:20] <VSpike> lame that Kubuntu doesn't have a kde equivalent, or provide a menu item for it
[05:20] <Insane`KDE> Now, I have another question
[05:21] <Insane`KDE> How do I skip a certain button? In my ButtonMapping I currently have "1 3 2", while it should be "1 3 X 2" or something. What do I put in for the X?
[05:22] <MaTiAz> So um
[05:22] <MaTiAz> How do I access trash? :|
[05:23] <anticitizen1_> i got 2 errors: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154" then after giving my password
[05:23] <anticitizen1_> sh:
[05:23] <anticitizen1_> restricted-manager: not found
[05:24] <Insane`KDE> Where can I update my drivers for my mouse? It seems one button isn't recognized at all, totally
[05:24] <Insane`KDE> Even at hardware-level it isn't recognized
[05:29] <anticitizen1_> how i know wich version if kubuntu im running?
[05:29] <anticitizen1_> sh:
[05:29] <anticitizen1_> restricted-manager: not found
[05:32] <sbun> what does the firmware cutter do anyway?
[05:32] <sbun> i know thats a stupid question
[05:32] <sbun> but why is it necessary
[05:33] <anticitizen1_> sbun: me?
[05:33] <kai> I accidently deleted some import stuff like my Apt-get stuff
[05:33] <kai> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:33] <kai> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:34] <kai> Is there  a way I can rebuild it?
[05:34] <kai> ...or am I totally screwed
[05:35] <miles> what does it mean if something is free as in beer?
[05:35] <sbun> nah anticitizen1_
[05:35] <miles> i know free as in freedom means you are free to change it
[05:35] <cloakable> miles: You don't have to pay for it
[05:35] <miles> ok thanks
[05:35] <cloakable> That's what 'free as in beer' means
[05:37] <kai> can anyone help me out with thta if im missing my apt-get folder
[05:39] <savetheWorld> but remember , even free beer can never truly be owned... only borrowed... :-)
[05:40] <anticitizen1_> nvidia porblems
[05:43] <Ahmuck> does kubuntu have a real time secure kernel?
[05:45] <anticitizen1> how to uninstall kubuntu?
[05:45] <sbun> format?
[05:45] <anticitizen1> mm, no, i have other OS working.
[05:46] <sbun> on different partitions right?
[05:46] <anticitizen1> yes (i want to delete kubun and install ubuntu)..
[05:47] <Ace2016> kubuntu and ubuntu are pretty much the same only difference is the desktop
[05:47] <sbun> boot the ubuntu cd, it should let you format the kubuntu partition and install over that
[05:47] <sbun> but yeah
[05:47] <Ace2016> ubuntu uses gnome, which is yuck, and kubuntu uses kde which is great
[05:47] <sbun> ive always hated gnome, a lot of people love it
[05:47] <Ace2016> back up work though
[05:48] <Ace2016> gnome is like marmite of the desktop environment world
[05:48] <sbun> heh
[05:48] <Ace2016> its just too simple for me, lacks features
[05:48] <strabes> does anyone know how to disable the default power manager in kubuntu from starting? I switched to kpowersave and it starts up automatically and I don't want kubuntu's default one starting up automaticalyl anymore.
[05:48] <sbun> flux ftw
[05:48] <Ace2016> i have to try enlightenment sometime
[05:49] <whizadree> hey
[05:49] <Ace2016> strabes: install bum
[05:49] <whizadree> i got one mean problem today
[05:49] <Ace2016> what is it?
[05:49] <sbun> ok im gonna try get this damn wifi going, i might see you soon :)
[05:50] <whizadree> i have a dell inspiron e1704 aka as the 9400
[05:50] <strabes> whizadree: just ask!!
[05:50] <dennister> gm channel
[05:50] <whizadree> and trying to install it
[05:50] <anticitizen1> kubuntu VS ubuntu: wich will detect in a proper way my GPU (nvidia)?
[05:51] <frojnd> what packages do I have to install that visualizations under tools in amarok will work ?
[05:51] <strabes> anticitizen1: they'll both probably be the same since their only difference is the Desktop Environment
[05:51] <frojnd> anticitizen1: doesn't matter..
[05:51] <strabes> frojnd: libvisual-0.4-0
[05:51] <whizadree> coming up with some errors and blank screens on install
[05:52] <strabes> whizadree: switch to a virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) and install the drivers manually
[05:52] <strabes> whizadree: us ati users have to do this on every install!!
[05:52] <whizadree> have to bare with me because this is of course on another laptop
[05:52] <pussfeller> DIY FTW
[05:52] <strabes> whizadree: bear* haha
[05:52] <pussfeller> err
[05:52] <whizadree> :-P
[05:52] <frojnd> strabes: strange, I allready have this package libvisual-0.4-0
[05:52] <pussfeller> sorry
[05:52] <whizadree> typo
[05:53] <strabes> frojnd: did you restart amarok?
[05:53] <strabes> frojnd: what is the error you get when you try to run the visualizations?
[05:53] <frojnd> I allready have it strabes... since allways..
[05:53] <anticitizen1> OK, but i cant enble my GPU driver under kubuntu:
[05:53] <frojnd> strabes: this package or plugin is missing
[05:53] <kai> is there any way I can re-create my "apt-get" stuff?
[05:53] <whizadree> i tried following one of those ati setups with the 9400 from linux-laptops
[05:54] <whizadree> still zero luck
[05:54] <anticitizen1> i get xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0
[05:54] <dennister> having a problem with clock drift here in this re-installation, so i'm trying to adjust the time to use my ntp client (was never configured properly), and i can't because i'm asked for my password, i type it in, and i keep getting "conversation with su failed".........so i guess i really need to troubleshoot why the su conversation isn't working properly...anyone have any idea as to what's going on, and how to fix the su prob
[05:54] <strabes> whizadree: but you have an nvidia card....
[05:55] <strabes> Ace2016: I installed BUM; do you know the processname for the default kubuntu power manager?
[05:55] <frojnd> strabes: I've installed plugin and now it works. Is there a full screen mode for vizualizations ? or just maximized screen ?
[05:55] <Riddell> strabes: guidance-power-manager
[05:55] <whizadree> strabes, : no def an ati
[05:55] <strabes> frojnd: i think if you left or right click on it it goes fullscreen
[05:56] <strabes> whizadree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b
[05:56] <anticitizen1> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[05:56] <strabes> whizadree: just follow those instructions in a virtual terminal
[05:57] <dennister> the same password i'm using for graphical input works fine in terminal
[05:57] <strabes> Riddell: I can't find guidance-power-manager in bum!!
[05:57] <whizadree> strabes : thnx ill give that a try
[05:57] <strabes> whizadree: np. When you're done run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[05:58] <strabes> whizadree: you're using kubuntu right?
[05:58] <whizadree> yup
[05:58] <strabes> yeah run that when you're done
[05:58] <Riddell> strabes: it's a python app, it may be shown as "python"
[05:59] <strabes> Riddell: nothing like that either. :(
[05:59] <dennister> can anyone help with this kde su problem?
[06:00] <dennister> i can't fix anything here until i get my su priviledges
[06:01] <strabes> dennister: use "sudo" to temporarily become root
[06:02] <strabes> dennister: or are you trying to run a gui app as root? in that case use "kdesu command"
[06:02] <whizadree> on boot up what does  intel_ring : FWH not found mean?
[06:02] <whizadree> rng
[06:02] <whizadree> not ring
[06:03] <cloakable> No idea
[06:03] <cloakable> whizadree: no idea, and it doesn't seem to make a difference
[06:03] <strabes> whizadree: I don't know, but google has several results with that exact error: http://www.google.com/search?q=intel_rng%3A+fwh+not+found&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[06:06] <dennister> strabes: i was trying to run a gui app...all gui apps requiring root access would give me password dialog, i'd type it in (correctly!) and i'd always get the error message
[06:06] <strabes> dennister: what error message?
[06:06] <strabes> dennister: in terminal?
[06:07] <dennister> strabes: "conversation with su failed"...no same password worked fine in terminal
[06:07] <dennister> so i just added myself to more things in /etc/group
[06:07] <strabes> dennister: oh, strange. I was expecting a different error. have you tried searching ubuntuforums.org or google?
[06:08] <dennister> strabes: the solutions offered usually include using more gui apps...which i couldn't
[06:09] <dennister> hold on...my work with /etc/group seems to be bearing some fruit
[06:09] <strabes> dennister: ok, cool
[06:09] <codex> hello everyone, i need a lil help, my sound is not working and i don't know why, i just install kubuntu 7.4
[06:09] <level1> does ubuntu come with ssh-server by default or do I have to install it?
[06:09] <codex> can anybody help me
[06:10] <pag> !sound | codex
[06:10] <ubotu> codex: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:10] <pag> codex, also check, if mixer is unmuted
[06:10] <strabes> codex: First thing is to make sure nothing is muted. If not, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide
[06:10] <dennister> strabes: at least it didn't even ask me for my password to get into the 'adjust date & time'...i'll have to try and fix underlying kde su later
[06:10] <whizadree> strabes: i get to kdesu kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common    then it says cannot connect to X server
[06:11] <anticitizen1> Cant save changes on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:11] <strabes> whizadree: kate kind of sucks anyway lol, use leafpad; it's faster
[06:11] <strabes> whizadree: and you can just run "sudo leafpad /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[06:12] <strabes> whizadree: or just nano if you want terminal-based
[06:12] <dennister> that's wierd...can't seem to connect to any of the public time servers...
[06:13] <codex> thanks
[06:13] <strabes> dennister: i've had problems with that too. it's not that important me
[06:13] <strabes> to me*
[06:13] <whizadree> after all that nothing disabled :-P
[06:14] <dennister> strabes: well it is to me i'm afraid...this is a mythtv box, and so clock skew is fairly important...i wouldn't be able to record tv shows while i'm away if the clock isn't correct
[06:14] <Unksi> GTK software crawls compared to Qt software in my laptop, is there any way to speed it up?
[06:14] <strabes> dennister: oh, sorry =\
[06:15] <dennister> i just realized: the feisty documentation doesn't mention anything about setting up the ntp client...which dapper and edgy certainly did
[06:15] <tOWLie> hi there
[06:16] <tOWLie> is it possible to put an root command in a file on the desktop so i can run it after the boot ??
[06:16] <jhutchins> tOWLie: Well, you certainly couldn't run it before the boot.
[06:17] <jhutchins> !autostart | tOWLie
[06:17] <tOWLie> no but when kubuntu is fisnished
[06:17] <ubotu> tOWLie: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:17] <thehcdreamer> hello, i'm using "kate" but i'm not able to write arrows() did someone have the some problem? thanks Oscar
[06:18] <Scunizi> After trying to access "system settings/user management" I get an error that the module could not be loaded. Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:18] <tOWLie> ok but how can i make a file like that ?
[06:18] <kai> does any one now how to rebuild the apt db than can help me out at all
[06:19] <Scunizi> kai, from commandline, sudo apt-get update? or is that not the db you're talking about.
[06:20] <jhutchins> kai: Why do you think you need to rebuild the database?
[06:21] <tOWLie> jhutchins i just installed the package kcontrol-autostart, what next ?
[06:21] <jhutchins> tOWLie: I dunno, run it and see.
[06:22] <jhutchins> tOWLie: Start kcontrol and look for a new applet to control autostart programs.
[06:22] <tOWLie> kcontrol-autostart
[06:22] <tOWLie> systemroot@systemroot-unix:~$ kcontrol-autostart
[06:22] <tOWLie> bash: kcontrol-autostart: command not found
[06:22] <tOWLie> dont work
[06:23] <kai> Scunizi: no the whole 'apt dir' is gone
[06:24] <kai> becasue when I do ap-tget update it says file or director doens't exist
[06:24] <whizadree> strabes : i now get to  the fglrxinfo : comes back at Error : unable to open display 0
[06:24] <jhutchins> tOWLie: kdesu kcontrol
[06:24] <strabes> whizadree: did you do the extensions composite disable thing?
[06:25] <whizadree> yup
[06:25] <tOWLie> habs
[06:26] <strabes> whizadree: sorry, g2g. search google for that. It's a pretty common error
[06:26] <Scunizi> kai, you have to type this exactly, with all lower case letters, without the quotes("), sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <tOWLie> i made a screenshot
[06:26] <tOWLie> u think it works like that ?
[06:27] <kai> Scunizi: I've done it plenty plus when I do it thru the GUI it messes up and say the APT DB is messed up
[06:27] <jhutchins> kai: what's the exact error?
[06:27] <Scunizi> kai, sorry.. I can't help
[06:28] <BluesKaj> whizadree , actually the "disable" is wrong , it should read "Composite"   "0"
[06:28] <kai> Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (2 No such file or directory)
[06:28] <kai> thats from CLI
[06:28] <kai> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem
[06:28] <kai> Thats from gui
[06:29] <BluesKaj> kai, close all instances of package managers like adept , apt or synaptic
[06:29] <kai> so u have alil backgroud
[06:29] <khandi> hello! i was wondering if anyone could assist me with a little problem i have with my sdb1 drive
[06:30] <kai> I was tryin to remove something and I did a rm -r and deleted more than what I intended
[06:31] <dennister> k, seems there's a bug filed in relation to kdesu
[06:31] <jhutchins> !aptfix
[06:31] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:31] <kai> BluesKaj: There are no other instances of any other package managers
[06:31] <dromer> !ask | khandi
[06:31] <ubotu> khandi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:31] <MarcC_> I can't get any of my available screen resolutions to take effect from System Settings. Anybody know why?
[06:31] <jhutchins> MarcC_: You have an LCD?
[06:31] <MarcC_> jhutchins: yep
[06:31] <bigfork181> moo
[06:31] <sbun> hey guys i successfully got the wireless card going, but i cant connect to the internet
[06:31] <dennister> some things aren't locking at bootime...will try to reboot to see if problem persists, now that i know a workaround (dangerous, but can use it temporarily)
[06:31] <khandi> ok my sdb1 has a bad superblock... how do i get it working again without losing my files (i could transfer the files to another drive if i am able to)
[06:32] <jhutchins> MarcC_: LCD's often have a locked resolution.
[06:32] <sbun> i can ping my router
[06:32] <sbun> but nowhere on the internet
[06:32] <MarcC_> jhutchins: ok, thanks - I didn't know that.
[06:32] <jhutchins> MarcC_: You might be able to find more about that model display, but single resolution is pretty common.
[06:32] <MarcC_> jhutchins: I'm wondering if a resolution like 1680x1050 will work OK with a projector I'll need to use tomorrow?
[06:32] <jhutchins> MarcC_: I doubt it.
[06:33] <kai> Cannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock: No such file or directory
[06:33] <kai> dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: No such file or directory
[06:33] <jhutchins> MarcC_: Most projectors are fairly low res.
[06:33] <sbun> anyone got any idea whats up?
[06:33] <kai> when I ran that command
[06:33] <jhutchins> MarcC_: Depends on the projector though.
[06:33] <MarcC_> jhutchins: drat, thanks
[06:33] <kai> I have to re-install huh
[06:33] <jhutchins> sbun: does route show a default gateway?
[06:33] <dromer> khandi: I remember something with mkfs that fixed a bad superblock for me .. but I can't be sure. do fsck on the disk anyway to see what's going on
[06:33] <sbun> what is a default gateway (sorry for being dumb)
[06:33] <BluesKaj> kai, dunno , maybe  sudo aptitude install apt ?
[06:34] <sbun> the router ip is 192.168.1.1 i thought this was the gateway
[06:34] <jhutchins> run sudo route and see what it says.
[06:34] <kai> BluesKaj: Lemme try that
[06:34] <sbun> ok
[06:34] <sbun> brb
[06:35] <khandi> @dromer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32790/
[06:35] <kai> BluesKaj: Same error
[06:36] <jhutchins> Hm.  I think you'd better restore your apt folders from your backup.
[06:36] <dromer> khandi: what filesystem is it? ext3 ?
[06:36] <khandi> dromer, yes
[06:36] <tkitty> executing grub hdo failed
[06:36] <kai> jhutchins: yea Im scrwed,
[06:36] <dromer> perhaps try fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb1 instead ?
[06:37] <dromer> khandi: whan do you get the error specifically?
[06:37] <dromer> when*
[06:37] <tkitty> who can help me loadin of grub?
[06:37] <tkitty> err with
[06:37] <khandi> dromer http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32792/
[06:38] <dromer> khandi: that I guess there's nothing wrong :P
[06:38] <khandi> dromer: when i try to do "mount -a"
[06:38] <dromer> then*
[06:38] <khandi> dromer: let me show you
[06:38] <tOWLie> jhutchins
[06:39] <tOWLie> are u herre ?
[06:39] <dromer> khandi: and what if you don't have the -a flag set?
[06:39] <jhutchins> tOWLie: Sorta.
[06:39] <khandi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32795/
[06:39] <khandi> dromer: yesterday it worked fine.. but i did restart my x-server, could it have anything to do with it?
[06:39] <dromer> khandi: you are running the mount as sudo are you?
[06:39] <dromer> khandi: no
[06:39] <khandi> dromer: yes i am
[06:39] <tOWLie> jhutchins  :  http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1578/photo1hb7.png
[06:40] <tOWLie> u think that could work ?
[06:40] <dromer> khandi: try the mount again, and dmesg | tail after that and see what errors are in there
[06:40] <jhutchins> tOWLie: Looks like it.  Why not try it and see?
[06:40] <khandi> dromer: ext3: No journal on filesystem on sdb1
[06:41] <dromer> hmm
[06:41] <tOWLie> i have to run it as root
[06:41] <dromer> I'm lost here, anyone else?
[06:41] <jhutchins> THen add sudo.
[06:41] <khandi> dromer: the drive is in my fstab
[06:41] <jhutchins> tOWLie: That's going to be a problem, because running it as root requires a password.
[06:41] <tOWLie> sudo truecrypt -u /dev/sdb1 /home/systemroot/Musik  <<<?
[06:41] <tOWLie> yes i know
[06:42] <tOWLie> ok lets try
[06:42] <tOWLie> reboot
[06:42] <tOWLie> see u soon :)
[06:42] <jhutchins> tOWLie: I would think that the truecrypt documentation would tell you how to mount an encrypted drive automatically.
[06:42] <khandi> dromer: could it be that i made an error in my fstab? or should that not give that problem? yesterday it worked fine!
[06:43] <MarcC> jhutchins: regarding my resolution change problem...I just tested in GNOME/Ubuntu and I can change it just fine...I wonder why I can't in KDE System Settings?
[06:43] <dromer> khandi: weird stuff man, paste your fstab for everyone perhaps?
[06:43] <jhutchins> MarcC: Try using krandrtray
[06:44] <MarcC> jhutchins: oh that is a slick app! I'll try it in KDE, thanks
[06:44] <khandi> dromer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32799/
[06:44] <khandi> dromer: fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32799/
[06:45] <jhutchins> khandi: what happens if you just do sudo mount /dev/sdb1?
[06:45] <ackbahr> Hi there! I just bought more RAM, so I used Gparted LiveCD to resize my linux-swap part, but now Ubuntu says it's not swapping anywhere.... Can someone help me set this right?
[06:45] <khandi> @dromer: same error
[06:46] <khandi> dromer: superblock error
[06:46] <tOWLie> did not work...
[06:46] <MarcC> jhutchins: krandrtray works fine in Kubuntu. Weird.
[06:46] <jhutchins> MarcC: Right tool for the job.
[06:46] <MarcC> jhutchins: should I file a bug on the System Settings tool or something?
[06:47] <khandi> dromer: could it be that i should add a UUID line in my fstab?
[06:47] <sbun> my wifi connects, but i cant access any external ip's
[06:47] <sbun> i did sudo route
[06:47] <jhutchins> khandi: try sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[06:47] <jhutchins> MarcC: Yes, I think you should.
[06:48] <khandi> dromer, jhutchins LOL thanks :D how do i make sure it does this automatically from now on?
[06:48] <jhutchins> sbun: sudo route displays your routing table.  Did it have a default gateway?
[06:48] <jhutchins> khandi: type sudo mount and see what it says about sdb1
[06:48] <sbun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32801/plain/
[06:49] <khandi> jhutchins /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1 type ext2 (rw)
[06:49] <jhutchins> khandi: See the problem?
[06:49] <khandi> jhutchins sorry, but i do not... im fairly new to this
[06:49] <jhutchins> sbun: try disabling eth0 - sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[06:50] <sbun> ok
[06:50] <sbun> yeah im not even using eth0
[06:50] <jhutchins> khandi: There was a hint when fsck reported no journal for sdb1.  ext3 is ext2 with journaling.  THe error you were getting probably said "bad superblock OR WRONG FS TYPE".
[06:50] <sbun> is that whats messing with it?
[06:51] <khandi> jhutchins that is correct
[06:51] <jhutchins> khandi: You can either enable journaling by following the ext3 docs, or change the fs type in fstab from ext3 to ext2.
[06:51] <jhutchins> khandi: /dev/sdb1 is ext2, not 3.
[06:51] <khandi> jhutchins changing it to ext2 has no implications on my current files on there?
[06:52] <khandi> jhutchins in my fstab that is
[06:52] <jhutchins> khandi: No.  It's been ext2 all along I suspect.
[06:52] <tOWLie> how can i unzip *rar files ?
[06:52] <khandi> jhutchins ok and when i reboot it should automatically mount it again?
[06:52] <jhutchins> tOWLie: You don't, you unrar them (in console).
[06:52] <Scunizi> once nvidia drivers are working properly, how do I get 3d desktop effects?  Is there a menu option someplace or do I need to install beryl?
[06:52] <jhutchins> khandi: Yes.  The reason it wasn't mounting was what it told you: wrong fs type.
[06:53] <jhutchins> Scunizi: #ubuntu-effects
[06:53] <tOWLie> !unrar
[06:53] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:53] <Scunizi> jhutchins: thnks
[06:53] <khandi> jhutchins thanks mate i will change it!
[06:53] <tOWLie> !info unrar-free
[06:53] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[06:54] <tOWLie> how is the command for unrar-free ?
[06:55] <runlevelten> Guys, check your ssh logs. I'm seeing a crazy amount of sshd crack attempts for myself and other machines.
[06:55] <runlevelten> repetitive name lists, too.
[06:56] <jean-benoit> !fr
[06:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:56] <jhutchins> runlevelten: set an iptables rule to throttle it.
[06:56] <jhutchins> runlevelten: I find that once the attacks start to fail, they stop coming.
[06:57] <jhutchins> runlevelten: What firewall do you have?
[06:57] <runlevelten> jhutchins: it won't achieve anything here, but it looks hella automated.
[06:57] <jhutchins> runlevelten: Well, it's annoying as heck, and it really does go away if you throttle it.
[06:58] <jhutchins> iptables -A INPUT -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m limit --limit 3/min --limit-burst 3 -j ACCEPT
[06:58] <runlevelten> jhutchins: I'm used to like clumps for maybe 5 minutes. This is on various machines for about 3 hours.
[06:59] <jhutchins> runlevelten: in my experience, if your machine is accepting flood connection attempts, that will trigger more attempts.  Maybe the bots pass your IP on to each other or something.
[07:00] <jhutchins> runlevelten: I manually shut down ssh on one machine for about five minutes.  When I brought it back up the floods were gone.
[07:00] <kaminix> How do I wget from this site: http://massuki.com/je/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=53 ? When I wget one of the files it gives me an index.html, works with firefox though.
[07:01] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Why you need a firewall.
[07:01] <MaTiAz> hey, why does Unreal Tournament 2004 keep exiting to the desktop all of a sudden? :|
[07:01] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Brute force ssh login attacks.
[07:01] <MaTiAz> It does it every once in a while
[07:01] <Ace2016> MaTiAz: install the latest patches for it
[07:01] <sudeep> i don't like icon bounching side of mouse pointer every time i launch an app... how can i remove it.. ?
[07:02] <BluesKaj> behand a seimens speedstream 6300 router with hardware FW
[07:02] <BluesKaj> behind
[07:02] <sudeep> i don't like icon bounching side of mouse pointer every time i launch an app... how can i remove it.. ?
[07:03] <jhutchins> !repeat
[07:03] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:03] <Ace2016> sudeep: kcontrol > Appearance & Themes > Launch Feedback
[07:04] <sudeep> Ace2016, i don't seem to have kcontrol ??
[07:05] <pag> sudeep, press alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[07:06] <sbun> hahahaha
[07:06] <sbun> it worked
[07:06] <sbun> <3
[07:07] <sbun> thanks a lot guys, disabling eth0 and messing with the gateway did iu
[07:07] <sbun> it
[07:07] <sbun> now to try beryl
[07:08] <whizadree> anyone able to help me with an install on a dell laptop 6400?
[07:09] <khaije0|bb> to unghost a nick?
[07:10] <sbun> what do you need whizadree?
[07:11] <whizadree> a working kubuntu system on a 6400 would be the best thing today :) ive tried various things that someone else told me
[07:12] <sbun> what have you tried
[07:13] <khaije0|bb> can any1 tell me how to unghost a nick? I always forget...
[07:13] <sbun> you mean kill a ghost?
[07:13] <khaije0|bb> yup
[07:13] <sbun>   /msg nickserv kill nickname password
[07:13] <sbun> i think..
[07:13] <sbun> iirc
[07:13] <khaije0|bb> k ill try thx
[07:13] <sbun> no wait
[07:14] <sbun> ghost. not kill
[07:14] <sbun> lol
[07:14] <Geekosaur> Greetings and Salutations, y'all.
[07:14] <kaminix> How do I wget from this site: http://massuki.com/je/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=53 ? When I wget one of the files it gives me an index.html, works with firefox though.
[07:14] <whizadree> http://linuxhelp.150m.com/ati/ati.htm   ive also tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b
[07:17] <fredl> hi I'm trying to run lphoto on ubuntu but it gives python errors.
[07:17] <fredl> could the dependencies be off a bit?
[07:18] <fredl> I'm getting these: result = QMessageBox.warning(None, i18n("Lphoto: Remove Album"), i18n("Do you want to remove %s?"%(name)), i18n("Yes, remove the album."), i18n("No"),  None,  1, 1)
[07:18] <fredl> TypeError: argument 6 of QMessageBox.warning() has an invalid type
[07:18] <fredl> although 'None' looks like a strange argument to me but I know nothing of Python.
[07:19] <whizadree> sbun :ive gotten it to work on my desktop box but its the laptop thats givin the problems today
[07:19] <whizadree> duhl
[07:20] <whizadree> anyone else that can spare a few moments
[07:23] <khandi> hi, does anyone here play Americas Army? i installed it. but i am not able to play it :d when i click the file, it does not start
[07:24] <whizadree> yeah thats because theres no one left :)
[07:24] <whizadree> you have to download the patch /iraq
[07:25] <Geekosaur> whizadree - I just came in the door, but I have been around a few doors in Linux.  What's the problem?
[07:25] <Iceworm> Where can I set konqueror to detail list view, by default?
[07:25] <khandi> hi, does anyone here play Americas Army? i installed it. but i am not able to play it :d when i click the file, it does not start, it does not do anything at all
[07:25] <whizadree> geek its complete failure of boot up
[07:25] <pag> khandi, try to set exec right to the file
[07:26] <pag> khandi, chmod +x /path/to/file
[07:26] <Geekosaur> What exactly happens?  Do you get to grub?
[07:26] <pag> Iceworm, choose the detail view and then save the profile
[07:27] <khandi> pag: is that the path without the executable file behind it? or including that file?
[07:27] <pag> khandi, incluning the file
[07:27] <whizadree> Geekosaur : ok i get the first Kubuntu screen with start or install ect
[07:28] <whizadree> which do you think i should use and any extra options (f6) should i use
[07:29] <khandi> pag: i already have the file to accept the current user
[07:30] <pag> khandi, hmm.. run the file from the command line, and see if it outputs something..
[07:30] <Geekosaur> That sounds like the grub screen.  Press enter and what happens?
[07:31] <Geekosaur> Just go with the top choice for now.
[07:31] <francis> hello, any expert in Kubuntu and Beryl ?
[07:31] <underdog5004> hey guys, I woke up this morning, and my server was sending/receiving a bunch of traffic, so I looked at /var/log/auth.log. Can anyone tell me if this looks bad or not? http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/32813/
[07:31] <khandi> pag: http://pastebin.com/m6e790040
[07:31] <underdog5004> btw, I never made a user nobody on my system
[07:32] <whizadree> Geekosaur : loads kernel ,,, shows moving bar  and graphic .... waits about 45 secs and goes blank with a white blink cursor then starts load   produces a cat error with /var acpi  then goes back to the logo screen for about 30 sec then stays blank with the cursor blinking once again and thats it
[07:33] <pag> khandi, try installing libstdc++5  (with apt-get / adpet)
[07:33] <Geekosaur> It sounds like you have an acpi error
[07:34] <whizadree> Geekosaur : if i press ctrl alt and f1 i get the text login
[07:34] <Geekosaur> When you boot, you will have to interrupt the automatic start (from the grub screen just arrow down and we will go from there.
[07:35] <khandi> pag: how should i install it? can't find it in my packages
[07:35] <whizadree> k done
[07:35] <khandi> pag: what exact command should i type in my terminal? or add/remove software program?
[07:35] <whizadree> countdown stopped
[07:35] <Geekosaur> You have an X problem, probably brought about by your video card.   Waht are you using?
[07:36] <pag> khandi, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[07:36] <whizadree> the dreaded ati mobility x1400
[07:36] <pag> !info libstdc++5
[07:36] <ubotu> libstdc++5: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-15ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 289 kB, installed size 852 kB
[07:36] <ksivaji> pag how to configure apache
[07:36] <Geekosaur> From your text login screen, login as you.
[07:37] <pag> !apache | ksivaji
[07:37] <ubotu> ksivaji: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:37] <Geekosaur> Oh my lord.
[07:37] <khandi> pag: thanks you very much :)
[07:38] <miles> omgz0rz
[07:38] <miles> how do u unmount a samba share?
[07:38] <whizadree> Geekosaur : btw its 7.04
[07:38] <miles> i thought it was "umount [share name] "
[07:39] <Geekosaur> I am afraid that you need expertise beyond my skills now.  I have never used the ATI card and don't plan on doing so, even though I could hit their offices with a rock.
[07:39] <underdog5004> How can I tell which program(s) is generating network traffic?
[07:39] <miles> because i tried that "umount [share] " and nothing happened, so i assumed it did it correctly, however, "ls [share] " shows everything on the share still
[07:39] <whizadree> Geekosaur,  i give permission
[07:39] <francis> anybody who knows how to install Beryl on Kubunto 7.0.4 ?
[07:40] <miles> francis: "sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald emerald-themes"
[07:40] <Geekosaur> Thanks, whizadree., and good luck. :)
[07:40] <miles> francis: after that, press <ctrl>+<alt>+<backspace twice>
[07:40] <francis> thanks, is it really working on Kubuntu ?
[07:40] <ksivaji> !tasksel
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tasksel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <miles> yea
[07:41] <whizadree> do you know anyone with better ati experience ?
[07:41] <miles> it woiks
[07:41] <miles> !taskel
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about taskel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <francis> miles: thansk, i'll try !
[07:41] <whizadree> !ati
[07:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:42] <Geekosaur> I wish I did, but I am unable to mix with the crowd very much - I am disabled and in a wheelchair.
[07:42] <francis> i've installed the nvidia (not nv) driver from the Kubuntu distribution
[07:42] <animimotus> somethings to cut a flac with his cue to obtain ogg files in a command line? :)
[07:43] <vzduch> ?
[07:43] <endlevel> hello everyone
[07:44] <morphinex> hey, does that kubuntu bot have a link to a compiz or beryl howto?
[07:44] <morphinex> for feisty
[07:44] <vzduch> !compiz | morphinex
[07:44] <ubotu> morphinex: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <morphinex> sweet, thanks
[07:45] <ksivaji> how do i make sure apache is configured in my system ?
[07:46] <cloakable> !compitx-fusion
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compitx-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <vzduch> cloakable: the bot doesn't speak catal or euskara :D
[07:47] <ksivaji> how do i make sure that  apache is configured in my system ?
[07:48] <anthronaut> how come, that adept lists other installed programs on my system than synaptics?
[07:50] <Ange|us> hello
[07:50] <pag> !hi | Ange|us
[07:50] <ubotu> Ange|us: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:51] <Ange|us> i installed netscape navigator on kubuntu, its just a file .tar.gz extracted in /opt and ran it, but some buttons aint working like checking if navigator is the default browser and thinks like that, any help please? :P
[07:53] <RobNyc-work> Kubuntu has kde 3.5.6 or 3.5.7 ?
[07:53] <pag> RobNyc-work, feisty has 3.5.6 as default, and 3.5.7 can be installed
[07:54] <francis> miles: thanks, it works!!
[07:54] <RobNyc-work> pag, how can 3.5.7 be installed :)
[07:54] <pag> RobNyc-work, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[07:55] <RobNyc-work> pag, ty
[07:55] <RobNyc-work> how did you find that link
[07:55] <pag> RobNyc-work, this time or originally?
[07:56] <maggiorana> sera
[07:56] <pag> RobNyc-work, originally it was linked to kubuntu related channels, and this time I already knew where to seek
[07:57] <blackthorne_> hola
[07:58] <st1bo> f
[07:58] <RobNyc-work> pag, anytime
[07:59] <rajdhani> byeee
[07:59] <igor> Is there anybody there ?
[07:59] <pag> !ask | igor
[07:59] <ubotu> igor: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:00] <Ace2016> Hi all
[08:00] <Ace2016> how do you save alias commands?
[08:00] <pag> Ace2016, use .bash_aliases
[08:00] <pag> Ace2016, you have to enable it through .bashrc though
[08:00] <Ace2016> its empty
[08:01] <Ace2016> what format do i use for saving?
[08:01] <Sheazsche> whats the name of the video codec package for kde?
[08:01] <pag> Ace2016, which are the options?
[08:01] <Ace2016> pag: do i put alias fusion-icon=fusion in there?
[08:01] <pag> Sheazsche, libxine-extracodecs  ?
[08:02] <pag> Ace2016, gimmi a sec, I'll pastebin mine, so you can take example
[08:02] <Ace2016> thanks
[08:02] <pag> Ace2016, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32821/
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:02] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <pag> klirc, please stop
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <Ace2016> what does that mean?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <Ace2016> no
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <Ace2016> non
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <pag> !ops | klirc
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <ubotu> klirc: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:03] <klirc> alguem fim d tc?
[08:04] <animimotus> erf
[08:04] <animimotus> somethings to cut a flac with his cue to obtain ogg files in a command line? :)
[08:04] <vzduch> animimotus: ?
[08:04] <igor> xvidtune doesn't seem to save my screen settings. On booting KDE again, old wrong settings are retained. What can I do about that ?
[08:05] <animimotus> I search somethings like that http://freeware.filehungry.com/english/product/windows_software/audio_tools/mp3_tools/cue_splitter
[08:05] <kaminix> How do I wget from this site: http://massuki.com/je/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=53 ? When I wget one of the files it gives me an index.html, works with firefox though.
[08:05] <animimotus> a "cue splitter" for linux ?
[08:05] <RobNyc-work> pag, so why wasnt kde 3.5.7 released officially or be available as updates :)
[08:05] <Ange|us> export: 41: Illegal option -n
[08:05] <Ange|us> wha is this?
[08:05] <Ange|us> :o
[08:06] <animimotus> vzduch: you see ?
[08:06] <pag> RobNyc-work, it wasn't released in time to be officially included, and since it's not a security update it couldn't be put as normal update
[08:07] <RobNyc-work> oh
[08:07] <pag> Ange|us, that could mean pretty many things - what are you trying to do?
[08:07] <Ange|us> im trying to "./netscape-installer
[08:07] <vzduch> animimotus: never heard of such software, not even this program
[08:07] <Ange|us> "
[08:08] <pag> Ange|us, open that file with any editor - does the first line say #!/bin/sh ?
[08:09] <Ange|us> yes pag
[08:09] <pag> Ange|us, change it to #!/bin/bash and it should work better
[08:10] <pag> Ange|us, and may I ask why are you installing netscape - why not use Konqueror or Firefox?
[08:11] <Ange|us> because
[08:11] <Ange|us> netscape is nicer
[08:11] <Ange|us> :p
[08:11] <Ange|us> i like cool stuff
[08:11] <Ange|us> hehe
[08:12] <pag> Ace2016, got aliases to work?
[08:13] <Ace2016> pag: do i have to logout and log back in?
[08:14] <pag> Ace2016, you have to enable that file in .bashrc and restart shell (restarting konsole is enough)
[08:14] <miles> how do you unmount a samba share? "unmount [share] "??\
[08:15] <Ace2016> pag: how do i enable it?
[08:15] <hangthedj> mile: umount /path/to/share
[08:15] <pag> Ace2016, unvomment lines 50-52  (lines were taken from my .bashrc, and I'm not sure if you have the same )
[08:16] <pag> uncomment that is (meaning: remove #'s from beginning of the line)
[08:16] <buck_> i am on the trash windows campaign commitiee
[08:17] <buck_> i am teasing
[08:17] <buck_> but who needs windows when you have Linux
[08:17] <anthronaut> buck_ my mother for example
[08:17] <pag> buck_, gamers?
[08:17] <vge> gamers indeed
[08:17] <buck_> well ... if the game is good UT .. than they will make it on all platforms
[08:18] <buck_> if the games sux .. which is mostly the case
[08:18] <buck_> they dont think of other platforms
[08:18] <anthronaut> i wouldn't recommend linux to just anyone
[08:18] <buck_> That is why DOOM 3 / UT / STEAM / can all cross
[08:18] <stdin> it's not the fault of the operating system that the manufacturers don't support it
[08:19] <buck_> because they are good games and they want to milk the most money out of the game
[08:19] <vge> well, kubuntu is a good effort to push the linux users forward
[08:20] <buck_> and if us linux users put our foot down and continue to go to forums of games we would like to see on lionux i am sure the DEVS would kindly make a linux version
[08:20] <stdin> devs want to, producers don't
[08:20] <buck_> its weird how your GOTY editions have a linux version of the game
[08:20] <buck_> UT one of the biggest games
[08:21] <buck_> of the century
[08:21] <buck_> will have a linux
[08:21] <buck_> version
[08:21] <stdin> they say it would cost too much, not enough market share. but there is not market share because there are no games :[
[08:21] <vzduch> !enter | buck_
[08:21] <ubotu> buck_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:21] <buck_> oh .. okay .. sorry
[08:21] <buck_> i will use periods.. than
[08:22] <pantel> Any experience with ASUS IPILP-LC / P5LP-LE motherboard? that is one of the new HP Pavilion A6100y desktop.
[08:22] <vge> buck_: iw never seen UT as a bringer of anything new to the fps genre
[08:23] <jhutchins>            !enter | buck
[08:23] <ubotu> buck: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:23] <vzduch> pantel: ah, stop talking 'bout HP Pavilion.. I could've had one on Saturday for <100 if I had been faster w/ checking my mails..
[08:23] <vzduch> :(
[08:23] <vge> vzduch: i only get penis enlargement offers :/
[08:24] <buck_> well here is the facts that i am seeing .. i see great games UT / Quake / Doom / Source can run on linux .. if people (linux users ) would post on the forums there could bring change. forget EA thier games are trash but real DEVS create for linux
[08:24] <pantel> vzduch: do you know if I'll be able to install and run Kubuntu on it without problems?
[08:24] <vzduch> vge: I had won a 200 voucher for a new auctioning platform, and they had one for that price..
[08:25] <whizadree> if you cant get into x and you want to configure fglrx manually how is it done?
[08:25] <ksivaji> vge hi
[08:26] <vzduch> whizadree: if you know what you're doing you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:26] <vge> buck_: actually if you would get EA, that would make an difference
[08:26] <vge> ksivaji: hi hi
[08:26] <buck_> yeah .. i know .. EA is huge . i think they will eventually just create for consoles eventually
[08:27] <vge> yup, pc is daying anyway as a game platform
[08:27] <whizadree> vzduch: im going thru https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  ive reched Install from ati.com (latest version of drivers) .... and completed the installation ,, but what happens if you havent installed Kubuntu yet?
[08:27] <buck_> and to think that PC is the supperior platform
[08:28] <vzduch> whizadree: ?  how can you install ATI drivers w/o an OS to run on?
[08:28] <jhutchins> whizadree: What are you running?
[08:28] <buck_> i think our world will be the MMO's and that will all change soon too with the USB support that consoles have
[08:28] <whizadree> vzduch: ive built the packages , all seems good
[08:28] <jhutchins> whizadree: What did you build them on?
[08:28] <whizadree> ive got into the live cd
[08:28] <whizadree> but not installed
[08:28] <whizadree> just running the os fro CD but no X
[08:28] <buck_> and my whole thing is soon even windows wont have the gaming support and than we can all USE LINUX woo hoo
[08:29] <jhutchins> whizadree: Where did you store the built packages/
[08:29] <jhutchins> ?
[08:29] <jhutchins> whizadree: ?
[08:30] <buck_> well its always a pleasure to boast about Linux .. i am a newb and i thourouly enjoy it ... I enjoy it so much that I am playing oldergames on it and cancelling my xboxlive account. woot.
[08:30] <whizadree> the deb file ended up at /usr/src/fglrx-kernel........deb
[08:31] <jhutchins> whizadree: Well, unfortunately, your filesystem is all in RAM, so you're going to have to copy that deb file to either a hard disk or to some external medium, otherwise it vanishes when you reboot.
[08:32] <whizadree> well i need to do this just to install Kub
[08:32] <whizadree> then i can hopefully get into the visual part of the install
[08:32] <jhutchins> whizadree: you may want to rebuild it anyway, after you install you will probably update your kernel, you'll need to update the drivers to match.
[08:32] <pag> whizadree, why don't you install from alternate disk?
[08:33] <whizadree> hmmm
[08:33] <sam_> Hey can anyone tell me where to get MkFS SOURCE CODE?
[08:33] <whizadree> pag,  you think that might work?
[08:33] <jhutchins> whizadree: The good news is that you've practiced building them, and it should be easy on the installed system.
[08:33] <jhutchins> whizadree: Were you having trouble with the standard install?
[08:34] <whizadree> jhutchins, yup thats correct
[08:34] <pag> whizadree, it will install - it probably won't repair your X, but atleast then you'll have a valid system, in which your modifications won't dissappear after reboot
[08:34] <jhutchins> whizadree: yeah, try the alt CD, do a text install, then do the nvidia stuff.
[08:34] <sam_> Hey can anyone tell me where to get MkFS SOURCE CODE?
[08:34] <whizadree> its on a dell 9400 - and its got a x1400 ati mobility
[08:36] <sam_> Hey can anyone tell me where to get MkFS SOURCE CODE?
[08:36] <Kr4t05> sam_: If you have the right repositorys, you can use 'sudo apt-get source <package>'
[08:37] <pag> Kr4t05, no need for sudo in that command
[08:38] <sam_> which package has mkfs code?
[08:38] <whizadree> ok download the alternate cd
[08:38] <whizadree> -ing
[08:39] <pag> sam_, util-linux probably
[08:40] <jhutchins> !search mkfs
[08:40] <ubotu> Found: disks, mount-#kubuntu
[08:40] <jhutchins> !info mkfs
[08:40] <ubotu> Package mkfs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:41] <Ace2016> yup its in util-linux
[08:42] <sam_> thanks ppl
[08:43] <arun> did anyone here know that microsoft was selling ubuntu cds on their website?
[08:43] <arun> and called ubuntu an 'excellent alternative to windows'
[08:44] <jhutchins> sam_: mkfs comes from util-linux
[08:45] <jhutchins> sam_: The various modules come from dosfstools. e2fsprogs. jfsutils, etc.
[08:45] <jhutchins> arun: Did anyone here think to check snopes?
[08:45] <arun> jhutchins: ?
[08:47] <jhutchins> arun: Do you have a link to the page where they offer it?
[08:48] <arun> jhutchins: microsoft seems to have realised their error and have removed the page, but i have a screenshot here: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2007062209235346
[08:49] <sam_> hey is mke2fs in linux-utils?
[08:49] <jhutchins> arun: Windows Marketplace isn't stuff Microsoft is selling.  It's stuff being offered for sale on their we pages.
[08:49] <jhutchins> sam_: No, it's in e2fsprogs.
[08:50] <jhutchins> sam_: mkfs is just a wrapper that calls the system-specific tool.
[08:50] <arun> jhutchins: ah, still thought it was weird/funny though
[08:50] <sam_> thanks man
[08:50] <jhutchins> It's like if I put an add for something on craigslist, craigslist isn't selling it.
[08:51] <jhutchins> Microsoft did take that down though.
[08:54] <anthronaut> Can it happen, that Kubuntu suddenly doesn't recognize the password at the login screen?
[09:01] <filingclerk> hey
[09:01] <velle> hi. I have just downloaded sun java from the official site, and unpacked it. I am new too linux and this is the first application that I have to "place somewhere" myself. I dont know where in the file hierarchy it belongs.
[09:02] <velle> I.e. if this was Windows, I would put it in "c:/program files"
[09:02] <llutz> velle: it's not part of distro, so /usr/local or /opt would be an idea
[09:03] <Ace2016> Hi all
[09:03] <velle> llutz, thanks
[09:03] <llutz> velle: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[09:04] <Ace2016> where did pag go?
[09:04] <Ace2016> anyway
[09:04] <Ace2016> i can run a command in konsole but not in Alt+F2, its an alias command, how do i make it run in alt+f2?
[09:08] <ubuntu> hello
[09:08] <ubuntu> French M
[09:08] <ubuntu> m
[09:09] <intelikey> !fr
[09:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:10] <velle> Another question: I am using the gnu locate tool with a regular expression. I would like to find all files that have the exact name "java" (im hoping to find the executables). But it seems that locate's database only stores full paths. So I need to tell locate that i am only interested in the paths that ends on "java"
[09:11] <Ace2016> Hi all
[09:11] <pajosephs> hi all. does anyone know how to configure realplayer so that when i click on a radio stream on the internet it start realplayer and as default and not mplayer piugin?
[09:11] <velle> e.g. (this does not work) "locate -r 'java\n'", or somehow "locate -r 'java<endofpath>'"
[09:12] <intelikey> velle find /usr/ -iname *java* -type f
[09:13] <intelikey> velle and regex would be 'java$'  wouldn't it ?
[09:13] <llutz> locate -r 'java$' works, but shows all file.java too (off course)
[09:14] <intelikey> any way in that execrise of futility   ls -l /etc/alternatives/j*
[09:14] <Ace2016> locate -r /java$
[09:14] <velle> intelikey: the correct regexp is "/java$". Thanks :)
[09:14] <velle> Ace2016: thanks
[09:14] <llutz> Ace2016: easier: "which java"
[09:15] <llutz> if it is in your $PATH
[09:15] <Ace2016> llutz: not if its a text file called java
[09:15] <intelikey> Ace2016 text file you mean script ?
[09:16] <velle> llutz: It was not in my path, that was the prob. But everything is good now.
[09:16] <intelikey> which finds scripts in the users path     cat `which which`
[09:16] <Ace2016> no just a text file
[09:16] <intelikey> ok yeah
[09:16] <Ace2016> any text file, could be a poem about java for all we know
[09:17] <Ace2016> anyone know why alias commands can't be run from alt+f2?
[09:17] <intelikey> yeah but he did say "(im hoping to find the executables)"
[09:18] <intelikey> Ace2016 yeah you can't export to a parent  and alt+f2 probably doesn't inheiret any bash settings
[09:19] <intelikey> it's not a login shell
[09:20] <intelikey> that pretty much precludes 'alias' going both ways...
[09:22] <vzduch> velle, nolle, malle..
[09:22] <vzduch> :D
[09:22] <Ace2016> intelikey: yea thats what i was told in #kde,
[09:23] <intelikey> oh    well next time tell me it's just a poll so i can ignore it   ;/
[09:23] <velle> vzduch: ?
[09:23] <vzduch> velle: you haven't had Latin at school, have you?
[09:24] <velle> vzduch: no :)
[09:25] <intelikey> vellus nollus mallus
[09:25] <vzduch> intelikey: not -us
[09:25] <vzduch> these are verbs
[09:25] <intelikey> but mine are names
[09:25] <intelikey> :)
[09:25] <vzduch> o0
[09:26] <vzduch> velle == want, nolle == not want, malle == rather want
[09:27] <intelikey> wanter content desirious
[09:27] <velle> vzduch: oki, I will try to remember that :)
[09:32] <BluesKaj> installed both rar and unrar , yet i get ERROR: Unknown option: ... strange :(
[09:34] <intelikey> Q  what will happen is i run  :(){ sudo ping 127.0.0.1 & : ; } ; :                   ???
[09:34] <BluesKaj> man rar and unrar both give the expected output
[09:34] <intelikey> A   you DoS your self.
[09:36] <cloakable> :)
[09:39] <Juno> Is there a way to play windows games in linux?
[09:39] <Juno> because I'd hate to have to dualboot just for games
[09:40] <edson> somebody uses fonts X11 for aterm, xterm, Eterm? example for fonts: lime, shine, edges.
[09:43] <flianez> hi
[09:43] <trekdanne> !hi | flianez
[09:43] <ubotu> flianez: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:43] <intelikey> Juno depends on the game    "cedega" ?
[09:43] <edson> somebody uses fonts X11 for aterm, xterm, Eterm? example for fonts: lime, shine, edges.
[09:43] <intelikey> !wine | Juno
[09:43] <ubotu> Juno: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:44] <flianez> ?
[09:45] <intelikey> ! i
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <cloakable> XD
[09:46] <intelikey> ! !
[09:46] <intelikey> hah.
[09:46] <Ace2016> i finally finished my guide
[09:49] <edson> somebody uses fonts X11 for aterm, xterm, Eterm? example for fonts: lime, shine, edges.
[09:51] <Ace2016> edson: are you trying to edit the fonts in xterm?
[09:53] <boinaverde1996> hi there
[09:53] <Ace2016> edson: there is a good guide here http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/10/configuring-xterm-in-linux.htmlkon
[09:53] <Ace2016> Biovore: hi
[09:53] <boinaverde1996> need help with external HD
[09:53] <colkhis> how do I run X session on remote machine?
[09:53] <pyrargent> boinaverde1996: what seems to be the problem?
[09:54] <boinaverde1996> have the error " hallo.....1000"
[09:54] <boinaverde1996> that happens only in Kubuntu ( with konqueror )
[09:54] <boinaverde1996> Gnome ( nautilus ) runs OK
[09:54] <boinaverde1996> the problem is that I cannot access my external HD
[09:54] <Assid> heya
[09:55] <boinaverde1996> any clue?
[09:55] <pyrargent> boinaverde1996: is " hallo.....1000" verbatim?
[09:55] <Ace2016> so you can't open /media/ whatever?
[09:55] <noaxess_kubuntu> need i restart my machine, if i extend my hd with lvextend? lvm command
[09:55] <boinaverde1996> correct cannot open my external HD
[09:56] <boinaverde1996> the rest run good .... cars reads ... an so on
[09:56] <boinaverde1996> cards
[09:56] <Assid> err.. anyone know how to normalize the audio a bit .. i mean the max audio output im getting in kubuntu only feels like 70% of what i used to do in win32
[09:56] <pyrargent> boinaverde1996: that is no error message I have ever seen, even google doesn't pick it up
[09:57] <boinaverde1996> I have googled it alot and found that is a bug in Konqueror
[09:57] <intelikey> Assid konsole    alsamixer
[09:57] <Ace2016> ask in #kde they know a lot about that stuff
[09:57] <pyrargent> boinaverde1996: "hallo" is a variable in a few source files I've dug up, but has nothing to do with disks
[09:57] <boinaverde1996> wait will copy past the error
[09:57] <intelikey> Assid pcm and master
[09:57] <boinaverde1996> this is the error : " hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"
[09:58] <intelikey> and what fs is on the disk ?
[09:58] <noaxess_kubuntu> !lvm
[09:58] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:58] <boinaverde1996> it works if I go rigth click and "open file" because opens with nautilus
[09:58] <pyrargent> boinaverde1996: could always install nautilus instead of konqueror
[09:59] <intelikey> and what fs is on the disk ?
[09:59] <boinaverde1996> the disk is NTFS
[09:59] <boinaverde1996> nautilus in KDE?
[09:59] <intelikey> pyrargent you mean use ?   if you remove konq you remove kde
[10:00] <Ace2016> don't you get a popup asking what to do when the device is plugged in?
[10:05] <pyrargent> intelikey: well yeah
[10:05] <pyrargent> i DESPISE the reccomendation of adding stuff to fstab, because it's a removable disk
[10:05] <pyrargent> but it looks like the only possibility until someone gets policy kit for kde
[10:05] <boinaverde1996> I have googled it alot and found that is a bug in Konqueror
[10:05] <intelikey> boinaverde1996 did you check the infonode on that ?      i'm not sure it will help...
[10:05] <intelikey> !ntfs | boinaverde1996
[10:05] <boinaverde1996> yes I got it ... then I press open and nothing happens
[10:05] <ubotu> boinaverde1996: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:05] <boinaverde1996> it seams that is a bug in konqueror, I can live with it no problem , I'm using rigth click , open folder, then Nautilis is comming them works
[10:05] <miles> i have a question about apt-get
[10:05] <boinaverde1996> I my box I have only Linux
[10:05] <boinaverde1996> is a PC
[10:05] <kanpachi_> hello i just installed kde-core, and i can't change my display settings, what do i have to install to change it? i don't see it on the prephials list
[10:05] <miles> when you remove something, and some library isnt needed anymore, what do you type through apt-get to remove the unneccessary libraries?
[10:05] <Ace2016> boinaverde1996: i think you should show intelikey your /etc/fstab
[10:05] <intelikey> oh wait,   i think i know what's up.  you have both  ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed ?
[10:12] <nedw> what does kubuntu lack compared to ubuntu?
[10:12] <vzduch> nedw: nothing
[10:12] <nedw> i like gnome better but i don't want to miss out on any features
[10:12] <Ace2016> ubuntu lacks a lot of features
[10:12] <nedw> sweet!
[10:12] <boinaverde1996> I would but guys I'm Newbie ..... how can I do that?
[10:15] <nedw> *i like kde better ;)
[10:15] <nedw> mwahaha
[10:15] <waylandbill_> nedw: I don't know that it lacks anything. It's just using different apps and libs to do the job in a different fashion
[10:15] <intelikey> boinaver   i think i know what's up.  you have both  ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed ?
[10:15] <nedw> sweet
[10:15] <boinaverde1996> yes I have both desktop installed
[10:15] <nedw> i'm going to use it now :)
[10:15] <boinaverde1996> ubuntu and Kubuntu
[10:15] <nedw> i used to but i don't like mixing ubuntu and kubuntu
[10:15] <vge> ubuntu is more user friendly but lacks features imho
[10:15] <intelikey> there is the problem.    the defaults are confused.
[10:15] <nedw> alright, you might see me later in kde, i'll be back :)
[10:15] <boinaverde1996> in ubuntu the external HD runs good
[10:15] <boinaverde1996> the problem is in KDE
[10:15] <Assid> err you guys ever connected your nokia phones to kubuntu ?
[10:21] <intelikey> no body listens to me.   i tell people and tell them not to advise installing   more than one *buntu-desktop meta package because some defaults don't get reset and you have things looking for nautilus and something wanting amarok and    well they just get confused    advise installing  gnome or kde or what ever   not the *-desktop   it hoses things.
[10:21] <boinaverde1996> intelikey in this case I showld have only one destop?
[10:21] <intelikey> only one *buntu-desktop  meta package.     yes.
[10:21] <boinaverde1996> thx a lot for the help
[10:21] <evilmm> lol
[10:21] <cloakable_> O.o
[10:21] <intelikey> as many desktops environments as you want  just not more than one *buntu-desktop
[10:23] <intelikey> aren't net splits fun....
[10:23] <intelikey> warning collision eminant
[10:23] <ardchoille> intelikey: Erm.. no
[10:23] <gilles> tagaa
[10:23] <ubuntu__> hello
[10:23] <buck_> hello
[10:23] <Scott_K> I am having a hard time getting java to run on...any suggestions?
[10:23] <buck_> bot what up
[10:23] <buck_> are you 64 bit
[10:23] <buck_> ?
[10:23] <buck_> scott k .. are you 64 bit
[10:23] <buck_> there are women who use linux? awesome
[10:23] <ubuntu__> what
[10:23] <buck_> well scott .. jsut wanted to tell you .. that i couldnt get the latest version of java to work .. but i use 5.1 or 5.0.2
[10:23] <Maxdamantus> Try blackdown.
[10:23] <buck_> and follow the instructions on how to install java
[10:23] <Maxdamantus> It's faster than Sun.
[10:23] <Maxdamantus> And OpenSource.
[10:23] <buck_> think i should switch max
[10:23] <Scott_K> ok...java 6.0 does not work on a 32 bit machine?
[10:23] <Maxdamantus> buck_, yea, but keep Sun Java too.
[10:23] <Maxdamantus> Some things don't work in Blackdown.
[10:23] <clefia> I just ran an update and upgrade with synaptic package manager. the updater quoted about 200mb of space needed.
[10:23] <buck_> ..cool i will install blacdown .. thanks again for the tips .. i just love this IRC channel and my new linux install
[10:23] <Scott_K> use adept to install it?
[10:23] <Maxdamantus> I have Blackdown set as my default, but a symbolic link to Sun Java wiht sjava
[10:23] <clefia> after the update i am left with 500mb less, i'm guessing the downloaded update files are still on my hard disk. where can i find and delete them?
[10:23] <Maxdamantus> clefia, look in /var/cache/apt*
[10:23] <buck_> i can apt-get install blackdown
[10:23] <Maxdamantus> /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:23] <sam_> plz can some one let me know ,what is the purpose of a MAKEFILE?
[10:23] <Vimana_> hey, the skydome image must be square?
[10:23] <Scott_K> what command would I use to install blackdown in a window with a command line?
[10:23] <buck_> MAKEFILE builds the program
what r the contents of a make file??
[10:24] <Ace2016> changes from one program to another
[10:24] <clefia> axdamantus: there are over 500mb of .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives if it safe to delete everything in there?
[10:24] <Ace2016> why delete them?
[10:25] <Maxdamantus> clefia, yes.
[10:25] <Maxdamantus> They stay there incase you want to reinstall them.
[10:25] <Maxdamantus> Saves bandwidth.
[10:25] <ericka> how can i change the chanel?
[10:25] <Maxdamantus> But if you want to reinstall something that's there, it needs to be downloaded again.
[10:25] <Maxdamantus> I just tar.bzip2 them.
[10:25] <vge> ericka: /j #channelname
[10:25] <sam_> what r the generally the contents of a make file??
[10:25] <Ace2016> sudo apt-get clean ?
[10:26] <vge> ericka: you can be in multiple channels at once
[10:26] <clefia> Maxdamantus: okay, thank you. I need to delete them because I'm using a 3gb hard disk and I'm out of free space
[10:28] <Maxdamantus> Lol.
 i just know that a makefile is how the kernal knows how to build the program as far as its content GOOGLE
[10:28] <Ace2016> sam_: http://mrbook.org/tutorials/make/
[10:28] <Assid> god.. getting the whole nokia phone thing to work is  a pain
[10:28] <jhutchins> Re: Automatix: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html
[10:28] <Maxdamantus> Bye.
[10:28] <jhutchins> Assid: What, push numbers, push "Talk", speak into soapbar?
[10:28] <vzduch> buck_: the kernel doesn't know how to build programs.. the C compiler knows ;)
[10:28] <buck_> yeah
[10:28] <buck_> but the make is what tells how to build to the kerna;
[10:28] <ericka> ok, thnx!
[10:28] <buck_> from what i understand
[10:28] <buck_> is a text file read by Make programs that describes the building of targets. A Makefile contains source-level dependencies and build-order dependencies. As part of its Make Support feature, SNiFF+ generates Make Support Files that contain both kinds dependency information.
[10:28] <jhutchins> Actually, it's make/automake that reads the contents of the make file and does what that says to do.
[10:28] <sam_> thanks a lot man!!!
[10:28] <buck_> yeah .. theres the definition
[10:28] <Assid> jhutchins: i wanna synch my phone :(
[10:28] <Ace2016> all i did was google example makefule
[10:28] <Ace2016> makefile*
[10:28] <buck_> yeah ..
[10:28] <drewh> greetings.
[10:29] <jhutchins> Assid: Have a look at the kpilot stuff.  THere's a specif nokia component for korganizer
[10:29] <buck_> i DEFINE: makefile
[10:29] <drewh> when I switch a window w/ alt-tab it shows the outline of the window, but not the contents...how do I get it to show the window w/ alt-tab?
[10:29] <maverick_> Assid: Why don't you use Kmobiletools
[10:29] <jhutchins> Hrm.  Or there used to be.
[10:29] <buck_> I try not to ask questions in here until i have googled my head off
[10:30] <buck_> for instance how to get onboard midi to work
[10:30] <buck_> im still trying to figure this one out
[10:30] <jhutchins> !midi | buck_
[10:30] <ubotu> buck_: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[10:30] <maverick_> !kmobiletools
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <buck_> ubotu is an awesome bot
[10:31] <Assid> maverick_: trying to understand how the hell do i get the device
[10:31] <jhutchins> Assid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1998822
[10:31] <drewh> anyone?
[10:31] <ericka> y
[10:32] <jhutchins> drewh: I presume this is in beryl or compiz?
[10:32] <ericka> hey you all! where are you from?
[10:32] <buck_> okay .. i will try this .. however i think i have tried at some point. but these instructions dont look familiar.. so i will do it
[10:32] <drewh> jhutchins: not sure?  it's kde as far as I know.
[10:32] <ericka> and why all are talking about linux?
[10:32] <maverick_> Assid: i don't really understand your problem, but if you're connecting using bluetooth..then things should be pretty easy with this tool
[10:33] <Assid> maverick_: not using bluetooth.. cable
[10:34] <breatherscreamin> how do i register a nickname?
[10:34] <orion4> hello
[10:34] <breatherscreamin> hi
[10:34] <buck_> !makefile
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about makefile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <orion4> O_O
[10:34] <orion4> this is kubuntu channel
[10:34] <Assid> maverick_: i know it made a device for this.. i dont know what it is it
[10:34] <buck_> !mandrake
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mandrake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <jhutchins> breatherscreamin: /msg nickserv register <password>
[10:35] <jhutchins> breatherscreamin: Best to do from a server message window.
[10:35] <jhutchins> !build | buck
[10:35] <Assid> okay i got it as /dev/ttyACM0 from wammu
[10:35] <ubotu> buck: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:35] <Assid> kmobiletools really should have a search feature that works
[10:36] <jhutchins> Assid: Try grep.  What are you searching for?
[10:37] <buck_> question .. has anyone been able to get thier usb midi keyboard to work?
[10:38] <Assid> jhutchins: searching which device is my mobile device.. i had to go to wammu and get it as /dev/ttyACM0
[10:38] <maverick_> Assid: i dont really remeber the command..but it's a command that displays the log of your devices...so for example if u're using usb cable and u've just plugged it in you can detect that by this command and then you can grep...i just don't remeber the command
[10:38] <maverick_> sorry
[10:38] <ardchoille> lsusb ?
[10:38] <drewh> anyone know how to get fiesty to show the contents of a window when alt-tab?
[10:38] <orion4> sudo apt-get install wine-doors
[10:38] <drewh> it shows the border, not the content
[10:38] <maverick_> Assid: and it tells you the assigned device
[10:38] <orion4> sudo apt-get install wine-doors
[10:38] <buck_> dri
[10:40] <ardchoille> drewh: I believe that would be the job of the window manager (kwin in kubuntu) and I don't think kwin has that capability.
[10:40] <maverick_> ardchoille: naaah!! another one
[10:40] <ardchoille> drewh: The good news is that you can switch window managers in kde
[10:40] <ardchoille> maverick_: ?
[10:40] <ericka> eeee
[10:40] <ericka> pelenme!!
[10:40] <drewh> ardchoille: kinda what I was coming to.  First time I've instlaled kubuntu...always been debian/enlightenment :)
[10:40] <Assid> lsusb doesnt show which device is it mapped to
[10:40] <drewh> Thanks for the time!  It's appreciated.
[10:41] <jhutchins> drewh: I'm on feisty, I get a window list with icons when I hit Alt-Tab.
[10:41] <ardchoille> drewh: If you don't really need a full desktop, look into fluxbox, or window maker, or even xfce.
[10:43] <ardchoille> drewh: I've seen people use the enlightenment window manager inside kde
[10:43] <maverick_> Assid: FOUND IT! dmesg
[10:43] <ardchoille> jhutchins: Yes, but he wants the windows to show the full content when switching with alt-tab, not just the window border
[10:43] <breatherscreamin> are there any yankee anything in kUBUNTU?
[10:43] <Hail_Spacecake> where is the KDE option that controls emptying the trash?
[10:43] <miles> ls
[10:43] <Assid> maverick_: doesnt say it got mapped to /dev/ttyACM0
[10:43] <Assid> oh wait .. i think it does
[10:43] <breatherscreamin> micrsoft is a yankee maid program
[10:43] <breatherscreamin> maek
[10:43] <miles> lol@breatherscreamin
[10:43] <maverick_> Assid: ?
[10:47] <Assid> maverick_: i have it connected to kmobiletools.. but it doesnt get my sms list or contact list
[10:47] <Maxdamantus> breatherscreamin, yes.
[10:47] <breatherscreamin> oh good what can i learn from kUBUNTU?
[10:47] <Maxdamantus> breatherscreamin, the art of Linux.
[10:47] <breatherscreamin> theres no art in linux
[10:47] <Maxdamantus> I said of.
[10:47] <Maxdamantus> Not in.
[10:47] <Maxdamantus> And there is art in Linux.
[10:47] <Maxdamantus> !gump
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gump - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <Maxdamantus> !gimp
[10:47] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[10:47] <maverick_> Assid: But Kmobile identifies it?
[10:47] <breatherscreamin> freyt
[10:47] <venik> Why do some programs spontaneously disapper and have to be reinstalled?
[10:47] <breatherscreamin> greyt
[10:47] <venik> I was using Basket, and it simply evaporated
[10:47] <Assid> yeah if i use /dev/ttyACM0 manually as a device.. it connects.. shows me battery and signal
[10:47] <Assid> looks wrong info tho
[10:47] <breatherscreamin> i want to use linux to help me gain money to fix my teeth
[10:47] <maverick_> Assid: god...i thought this problem was solved..i had a similar problem it used to start gathering my SMS and as it starts displaying the list it crashes...
[10:47] <drewh> later!
[10:47] <breatherscreamin> in 3d, are there any neat paclkages for kUBUNTU to continue making 3d cause my MICROSOFT products all die
[10:47] <ardchoille> breatherscreamin: I have a pair of plyers, does that help?
[10:47] <maverick_> Assid: Sorry , i guess you'll have to walk this walk alone..i have no idea..maybe googling would help
[10:47] <Assid> maverick_: you managed to get anything to work wiht your phone?
[10:47] <maverick_> Assid: yeah, i managed to download pics...and contact list
[10:47] <Assid> maverick_: what did you use
[10:47] <maverick_> Kmobile tools
[10:47] <maverick_> there's another app
[10:47] <Assid> wammu ?
[10:47] <ubuntu____> what else can i use other than kUNBUNTU?
[10:47] <maverick_> Assid: no, i don't remeber it...Oh! i have short term memory loss :D..i will search it for you now..hold on
[10:48] <jhutchins> I think that so much just works automatically in modern Linux distributions that people get unreasonably frustrated when they have to actually get under the hood to enable something.
[10:48] <Hail_Spacecake> where is the KDE option that controls emptying the trash?
[10:48] <andrea> hallo! somebody knows how to install o2micro card reader driver for kubuntu?
[10:48] <hufi> #kubuntu-de
[10:48] <screamingbreathe> is there anything i could use other than kubuntu to make 3d with?
[10:48] <hufi> #ubuntu-de
[10:49] <ardchoille> andrea: All the card readers I have seen just plug it in.. and when the card itself is inserted, kde will treat it as a mass storage device and ask you what you want to do when it's inserted.
[10:49] <ardchoille> andrea: You may not need the driver at all.
[10:49] <Assid> maverick_: kandy ?
[10:50] <breatherscreamin> im not comp;letely happy with kubuntu for 3d
[10:50] <jhutchins> andrea: This might help:
[10:50] <jhutchins> http://tuxmobil.org/smart_linux.html
[10:51] <breatherscreamin> is there any ease of use 3d software for kUBUNTU?
[10:51] <andrea> yes, it's so for everything, but except mine card reader... mine is integrated, not usb! i'm using a laptop... however thanks jhutchins
[10:51] <jhutchins> andrea: Yeah, usbfs should recognize this and support it as a USB storage device.
[10:51] <jhutchins> andrea: Problems?
[10:52] <breatherscreamin> i want to post a wiki page on the civil war
[10:52] <sam_> how to enable CONFIG_MODVERSIONS in the kernel?
[10:52] <breatherscreamin> or put it into kubuntu
[10:56] <breatherscreamin> fine no ones gonna feel sorry for my dying kubuntu machines se eya later
[10:56] <stdin> sam_: it already is
[10:56] <sam_> ya i know it..ok then how to disable CONFIG_MODVERSIONS in the kernel?
[10:56] <stdin> sam_: recompile it
[10:56] <andrea> jhutchins- yeah, i insert a ms but nothing appears
[10:56] <jhutchins> andrea: Do you have pcscd installed?
[10:56] <sam_> can i change it in the make menuconfig file
[10:56] <sam_> can i change it in the make menuconfig file?
[10:56] <jhutchins> andrea: if not sudo aptitude install pcscd
[10:56] <stdin> sam_: you install the kernel source, then redo you can edit the .config file if that's what you want
[10:56] <maverick_> Assid: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1317977
[10:56] <stdin> sam_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:56] <andrea> jhutchins - no, i don't! ok! i'll try in a few minutes
[10:56] <jhutchins> andrea: See also the comments on the smartcard reader here: http://www.ailis.de/~k/archives/14-Linux-on-Dell-Latitude-D820.html
ok i got u..but cant cant it be done without kernel recompilation?
[10:56] <stdin> sam_: no it can't
[10:56] <maverick_> Assid: it's not the same one i used before but it's said that this one supports Lates nokia phones (i.e: N-series)
[10:57] <stdin> sam_: why would you need to disable that?
thanks a lot man
[11:00] <andrea> after i have installed pcscd, what do i do?
[11:00] <andrea> for jhutichins
[11:05] <Assid> maverick_: hrmm okay will play with it
[11:05] <Assid> maverick_: doesnt work
[11:05] <Assid> bah screw it .. i will check it out another time
[11:05] <Assid> starting to feel sleepy
[11:07] <BluesKaj> hmm, trying to convert flac to wav with soundkonverter and end up with netscape windows media player plugin file ...what gives ?
[11:07] <Assid> oh crap.. i shoulda fixed this error i had with mysql
[11:07] <Assid> err,.,. anyone know how do i get the putty authentication to work with regular ssh ?
[11:07] <Maxdamantus> Assid, PuTTy is for Windows..
[11:07] <andre_pl> has kde 4 b1 made it into feisty backports yet?
[11:08] <stdin> Assid: there should be some tool in putty to convert it, tho I don't know why you'd need putty...
[11:08] <Maxdamantus> ^^
[11:08] <stdin> andre_pl: yes, it's pretty much all there now
[11:08] <Assid> stdin: i just came from windows.. i have the authentication key files..
[11:08] <Assid> how do i make it work now that im on linux
[11:08] <Maxdamantus> Most Linux distros (Including the Ubuntu family) have SSH.
[11:08] <Maxdamantus> Assid, the keys are stored in the registry.
[11:08] <andre_pl> sweet
[11:11] <Maxdamantus> And why do you need them anyway?
[11:11] <Assid> my remote boxes are working on key authentication
[11:11] <Assid> so i need key files to work.. now .. how do i setup authorized keys
[11:11] <Assid> so i can connect to my remote boxes
[11:11] <stdin> Assid: try puttygen from the putty-tools package
[11:15] <whizadree> i think it was something like .authorizedkeys
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> ...
[11:15] <whizadree> in ssh
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> I thought only the server broadcasted keys.
[11:15] <whizadree> nah you need a local key pair
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> And the authentication system is so that the client can recognise the server.
[11:15] <Assid> Maxdamantus:  no.. if thats hte case there would be no pair
[11:15] <bipolar> Assid: use the "-i" option with ssh.
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> And know when it's not connecting to the original one.
[11:15] <stdin> putty stores the SSH keys in a weird format, you need to convert them to the openssh format
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> stdin, it stores them in the registry aswell.
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> 'Tis annoying
[11:15] <Assid> i think i have the openssh format as well
[11:15] <bipolar> Assid: if you have your ssh keys that the server wants, use something like "ssh - i /path/to/key user@server"
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> I use PuTTy at school, to access my computer.. And all the settings are stored on the computer, not the flash driev.
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> Bye.
[11:15] <bipolar> Assid: more details are in the ssh man page
[11:15] <bipolar> Assid: or, if you're more comfortable with putty, you can just install the linux version. it's in Ubuntu's repo
[11:15] <Assid> i need the id_dsa or id_dsa.pub ?
[11:15] <Assid> bipolar: puttys broken there :(
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> It's a CLI.
[11:15] <Assid> i type something.. and when i clear.. it doesnt really clear
[11:15] <bipolar> Vimana_: I agree
[11:15] <sam_> hey can any one tell me full path for kernel.h file?
[11:15] <hsatera> H.323
[11:15] <hsatera> anyone here uses ekiga???
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> I used the CLI Linux PuTTy before I realised Linux had an "ssh" there already,
[11:15] <Vimana_> lol
[11:15] <bipolar> Maxdamantus: er... the putty in Ubuntu is the GUI
[11:15] <stdin> sam_: what are you trying to do?
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> Oh, really?
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> Yuck.
[11:15] <Assid> hrmm its ignoring my private key
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> Linux doesn't need GUI SSH clients.
[11:15] <Vimana_> i use ssh in windows...
[11:15] <bipolar> Maxdamantus: yes. I've got it installed now, just to look at it.
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> Bye
[11:15] <gOcOOl> i'm having problems installing vim-gtk on my kubuntu (edgy)
[11:15] <gOcOOl> can someone please help?
[11:15] <stdin> Maxdamantus: Konsole IS a GUI ssh client :p
[11:15] <bipolar> Assid: have you tried using ssh -i ?
[11:15] <Assid> bipolar: yeah something is wrong tho
[11:15] <Vimana_> hey, if kde4 gets ported to win, do you think it can be used as a shell replacement?
[11:15] <sam_> are i am working on some college projects...and i am trying to load a module in akernel and have written a c prog..and hence want to include kernel.h
[11:15] <Assid> ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? ssh/athlonxp
[11:15] <Assid> permissions and stuff is messed u
[11:15] <Assid> up
[11:15] <bipolar> Assid: where is that file?
[11:15] <stdin> Vimana_: it won't replace the shell, but if you want a linux shell in windows look in to http://cygwin.org
[11:15] <Assid> in my homedir
[11:15] <Assid> in a dir in my homedir
[11:16] <bonaldo2000> anyone else in here experiencing random lock-ups with nvidia drivers? And getting some NVRM: xid errors in their logs?
[11:16] <Level15> stdin: no, i mean as a replacement for explorer
[11:16] <Level15> not just for running bash
[11:16] <RobNyc> damn kftpgrabber crashes more than i dont know who
[11:16] <stdin> Level15: no, probably not explorer is pretty built in to the OS. but who knows...
hey tell me the path for kernel.h file
[11:17] <stdin> sam_: you don't use the full path, you use <linux/kernel.h> or similar
[11:17] <Level15> stdin: i know there are other shells for windows besides explorer... i'd just like to know if kde could become one ;)
[11:17] <sam_> but its giving me an error
[11:17] <Level15> RobNyc: kftpgrabber?
[11:17] <Level15> RobNyc: FTP client?
[11:18] <RobNyc> yes Level15
[11:18] <Level15> RobNyc: what's wrong with konqueror for that?
[11:18] <RobNyc> but im not certain on which file it crashes though but its been happening in various distros
[11:18] <RobNyc> Level15: i preferred a real ftp client thats all :)
[11:18] <sam_> hey i got it..its /usr/src/linux
[11:18] <stdin> Level15: I don't know, ask the people developing it, in #kde or #kde-devel
[11:18] <Level15> i bet kftpgrabber uses kio_ftp which is what konq uses anyway...
[11:18] <gOcOOl> i'm having problems installing vim-gtk on my kubuntu (edgy), can someone please help?
[11:19] <Assid> bah.. im screwuing up my perms somewhere hold on
[11:20] <stdin> gOcOOl: it helps if you tell us what the problem is, we aren't psychic (at least most of us aren't)
[11:20] <gOcOOl> stdin:
[11:20] <gOcOOl> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:20] <gOcOOl>   vim-gtk: Depends: vim-gui-common (= 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5) but 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5.1 is to be installed
[11:20] <gOcOOl>            Depends: vim-common (= 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5) but 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5.1 is to be installed
[11:20] <gOcOOl>            Depends: vim-runtime (= 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5) but 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5.1 is to be installed
[11:20] <gOcOOl> E: Broken packages
[11:22] <Level15> !paste
[11:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:22] <Assid> okay so.. whats the kde ssh app
[11:22] <Level15> Assid: konsole
[11:22] <stdin> Assid: what app, konsole rules :)
[11:22] <Assid> hehe.. something where id ont have to choose the file from cli
[11:22] <gOcOOl> stdin: i have all the above mentioned packages installed, i'm not sure what the problem is.
[11:22] <stdin> Assid: there is kdessh i guess
[11:22] <Assid> i guess i could shell script it
[11:22] <bipolar> Assid: Konsole is just a console window, ssh is the app you want to run from the console
[11:22] <Level15> Assid: which file? sorry, got late to the conversation
[11:22] <stdin> Assid: konsole has sessions, you make a session for each ssh account :)
[11:22] <gOcOOl> stdin: and i'm just doing this - sudo apt-get install vim-gtk
[11:22] <Level15> Assid: oh i see, keys...
[11:22] <Assid> yep
[11:22] <stdin> gOcOOl: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[11:22] <kanpachi> anyone knows any kde application that's like gnormalize?
[11:23] <Level15> Assid: well, konsole sessions as was already suggested, or simple bash aliases
[11:23] <gOcOOl> stdin: edgy (64 bit version), if that's what you mean.
[11:23] <bipolar> Assid: or just use the -i option. if you don't tell it what file to use, it defaults to ~/.ssh/id_rsa iirc
[11:23] <Assid> err.. okay this is super funny
[11:23] <bipolar> Assid: check the man page for more info
[11:23] <Assid> i have kdessh in /usr/bin .. BUT .. if i check with my user . i dont see it
[11:24] <vge> Assid: are u talking about gftp or similar?
[11:24] <vge> nvm
[11:24] <Assid> err. nvm
[11:24] <Assid> im gonna stick to konsole
[11:25] <Assid> just make shel scripts to connect to the right server
[11:25] <bipolar> Assid: good choice :)
[11:25] <Assid> too irritating to keep track of the -i
[11:25] <Assid> now if only i didnt waste time earlier and worked on the mysql server replication
[11:26] <Level15> Assid: that's why bash aliases and konsole sessions were suggested
[11:26] <stdin> gOcOOl: make sure your package cache is up-to-date (sudo apt-get update) and try again
[11:26] <gOcOOl> stdin: did that twice already
[11:27] <stdin> gOcOOl: report that as a bug then
[11:27] <Assid> what would bash aliases have to do with this?
[11:27] <gOcOOl> stdin: ok, thanks!
[11:27] <stdin> gOcOOl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+filebug
[11:34] <Assid> this is nice.. 15 hours.. my box is just lagging a wee bit.. but thats mostly thanks to beryl
[11:34] <Level15> Assid: you can make an alias that uses this key, another one that uses that key, and so on...
[11:34] <Assid> hrmm
[11:39] <Jhon36> Hello!
[11:39] <Level15> Assid: so what will you choose?
[11:39] <Assid> shell scripts :P
[11:39] <Assid> simple shell scripts.. that i can control
[11:39] <Level15> Assid: ok... but i think alias are easier, you know?
[11:39] <Assid> might use them with aliases.. so i just pass the server name as a parameter to the script
[11:39] <benpicco> hi, i dont have acces to a link a made with ln -s
[11:39] <Assid> so will be a hybrid
[11:39] <Level15> Assid: between aliases and shell scripts, i'd recommend aliases
[11:39] <stdin> benpicco: elaborate please
[11:39] <Jhon36> I am trying to install kubuntu 7.04 and get error message: Cant accses tty. Before that is it reads xfemode (err_mask=0x40).
[11:39] <benpicco> well, i made a link ln -s ~/somedir/foo.jpg /var/www/bar.jpg
[11:39] <Assid> now i need a good ftp client.. and im good to go .. i think
[11:39] <Assid> oh well
[11:39] <stdin> Assid: umm, konqueror
[11:39] <benpicco> (well, had to do this as root)
[11:39] <Assid> hehe.. i like the left side right side concept
[11:39] <benpicco> and now i can't acces it as a normal user
[11:39] <vge> gftp is ok imho
[11:39] <stdin> Assid: dolphin with split view :p
[11:39] <Jhon36> And there is also message that usb 5-7 device nott accepting address error -110.
[11:39] <Level15> vge: i try to avoid gtk based stuff as much as i can...
[11:39] <Assid> i acutally do have a license for flashfxp.. lets check wine for it
[11:39] <stdin> benpicco: what happens when you try?
[11:39] <vge> Level15: why?
[11:39] <benpicco> stdin: no acces
[11:43] <Level15> vge: dunno... i'm just weird, i guess
[11:43] <Jhon36> can someone help?
[11:43] <stdin> benpicco: is that from a file manager or apache (or another http server) ?
[11:43] <benpicco> huh, now I get "unable to open image `webcam.jpeg': Too many levels of symbolic links"
[11:43] <vge> kdeftpgrabber is also avaiable, but it has failed me couple times
[11:43] <stdin> benpicco: make sure that you didn't accedently make a link that points to a link that point to the 1st link (read that a few times, it will make sense)
[11:43] <whizadree> sounds like a round robin
[11:43] <Level15> vge: konqueror is just one click away ;)
[11:43] <benpicco> ohm yes, this was it, now it works
[11:43] <stdin> thought so :)
[11:43] <vge> Level15: i use konqueror at work, but im also a man of 2 window layout :)
[11:43] <ardchoille> stdin: What is the limit of linking to a link, to a link, etc?
[11:43] <stdin> depends on the app, it would give up after a predetermined amount of links I should think
[11:43] <ardchoille> Yeah
[11:43] <stdin> but I'd think you could do a lot before that, maybe 10s maybe 100s
[11:43] <Assid> dolphin looks nice
[11:43] <Assid> hrmm
[11:43] <ardchoille> !info dolphin
[11:43] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB
[11:43] <Assid> would be nice if wine supported flashfxp.. but i guess i gotta wait on that
[11:43] <stdin> Assid: you know you can get konqueror to do split view ?
[11:43] <stdin> ie: left panel and right panel
[11:43] <Assid> hrm
[11:43] <Assid> what about shortcuts to transfer
[11:44] <diederik> First try, just typing
[11:44] <stdin> select Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V (copy & paste)
[11:44] <Assid> hrmm.. nothing like CTRL T . transfer.. CTRL Q .. queue.. etc?
[11:44] <stdin> not in konq (afaik)
[11:45] <Assid> hrmm k
[11:45] <diederik> Need help, everything on my kubuntu feisty works except speakers
[11:45] <Assid> i;ll play around in the morning when my brains are working
[11:45] <atrocity> i know this isn't a problem for ubuntu per-se
[11:45] <vge> press the delivery button (del)?
[11:45] <Assid> hehe
[11:45] <Assid> delivery
[11:45] <Assid> lol
[11:46] <atrocity> but when you're in the file-browser application, is there a way to make it auto-say skip when copying from a BAD DVD
[11:46] <atrocity> so i don't have to keep telling it to skip that file when it's corrupt?
[11:47] <Assid> you know.. so far.. my friends losing his brains everytime i tell him i can get my pc to do things better than a mac
[11:47] <Assid> i just wish beryl was a bit more co-operative in resource usages
[11:48] <Level15> i don't find it that bad...
[11:48] <Assid> hrmm does ati have issues as nvidia does?
[11:49] <Level15> i think ati has MORE issues than nvidia
[11:49] <stdin> lots more, ATI spelt backwards is EVIL
[11:50] <ma> hi everybody
[11:50] <Pupeno> [OT]  what does it mean for a hotel room to be "ensuite"?
[11:51] <Level15> NFI
[11:52] <Level15> [OT]  does anyone use an ergonomic keyboard? I am experiencing some wrist pain and was wondering if they are any good...
[11:52] <sfire> Level15: I love mine
[11:52] <stdin> you do know there is on opptopic channel?
[11:52] <Level15> sfire: brand/model?
[11:52] <Pupeno> Level15: I'm using a Kinesis Advantage (in dvorak mode). I like it
[11:53] <sfire> Level15: make sure to check your desk for the proper height and everything often that is even more important than the keyboard
[11:53] <Level15> stdin: yeah, but here's so much more funs :)
[11:53] <stdin> Level15: and it's a kickable offence too
[11:53] <Assid> hrmm..
[11:53] <sfire> Level15: Microsoft Natural 4000
[11:53] <Pupeno> Level15: my current problem is that I use it only at work, and at home I loose the training of those keys in a different place.
[11:53] <Level15> lol
[11:53] <Assid> i was thinking when i upgrade during the penryns.. i would prolly get the ati card
[11:53] <gnyffel> Is there any way I can preserve my custom xmodmap when I change keyboard layouts, or do I have to reapply my xmodmap script every time?
[11:54] <sfire> Assid: avoid ATI like the plague.. their cards totally blow in linux
[11:54] <Assid> hrmm
[11:54] <sfire> I'm stuck with one in my new dell.. I plan to smash it with a hammer when I get a nvidia
[11:54] <Level15> nvidia is the way to go if you want gl and stuff...
[11:54] <Assid> damn
[11:54] <gnyffel> sfire: agree, though people already stuck with them should look towards the new avivo-thingy
[11:54] <stdin> Intel ftw
[11:54] <Assid> i was actually looking for the ati x1300
[11:55] <vzduch> Avivo?
[11:55] <sfire> Assid: I believe that is what mine is
[11:55] <sfire> its a POS
[11:55] <gnyffel> vzduch: yeah, an open source r500 driver. It's under development
[11:55] <Assid> really?
[11:55] <stdin> gnyffel: not sure, how are you switching? from the KDE switcher?
[11:55] <Assid> but on windows its fast?
[11:55] <gnyffel> stdin: yeah
[11:55] <Assid> okay i think something wrong with my svn
[11:55] <sfire> Assid: I wouldn't know.. formatted the PC right when I got it
[11:55] <vzduch> doesn't apply to me, I have Nvidia :)
[11:55] <gnyffel> Assid: mine is a x1400, same chip as x1300. Stick to NVidia if at all possible
[11:56] <Assid> i cant download any themes
[11:56] <stdin> gnyffel: you could ask in #kde they know the settings better than I
[11:56] <vzduch> a GF2 though, but at least no ATI *gg*
[11:56] <gnyffel> stdin: thanks, I'll try that
[11:56] <Assid> gnyffel: what about the black windows every now and then when using beryl
[11:56] <Level15> Assid: i think those are unresponsive windows
[11:56] <gnyffel> Assid: the fglrx driver doesn't support aiglx, so no beryl unless you want to run an xgl xserver. Which sucks.
[11:57] <gnyffel> Assid: at least that's my understanding
[11:57] <Assid> gnyffel: so considering most people do have nvidia.. perhaps work on something to make it compatible?
[11:57] <sfire> Assid: the built in video in my laptop (intel) makes my ati x1400 look worthless
[11:58] <sfire> and that is really sad
[11:58] <gnyffel> sfire: there is hope for people with ATI, however :P
[11:58] <sfire> gnyffel: yes.. they can purchase a real card
[11:58] <sfire> just like I'm going to have to do
[11:59] <gnyffel> sfire: pfeh, as I said, the avivo driver. No go now, and you should definitely avoid ATI, but at least us still stuck with them have something to look forward to
[11:59] <Assid> man.. i wish this stupid svn would work
[11:59] <Assid> it just hangs up
[11:59] <Assid> i cant even kill a svn process i manually start from cli
[11:59] <sfire> Assid: sudo kill ?
[11:59] <Assid> yeah but everytime ?
[12:00] <Assid> CTRL C just doesnt abort
[12:00] <Assid> no wonder my emerald theme manager doesnt work
[12:00] <Assid> i cant get more themes
[12:00] <Assid> ridiculous
[12:00] <gnyffel> sfire: also, ATI cards (older ones at least, x2xxx suck compared to nv, afaik) are fine. I think it's important to distinguish between the driver and the hardware
[12:01] <jhutchins> Assid: svn is used daily by millions of users on thousands of sites.
[12:01] <Assid> jhutchins: i know.. i use it too.. but something is messed up here
[12:01] <Assid> it just crashes
[12:01] <Level15> Assid: the problem with emerald is something else...
[12:01] <Assid> Level15 im running the same line from cli .. and i cant CTRL C to abort the svn transfer.. and nothing ever happens during this
[12:01] <jhutchins> Assid: Three possibilities:  Something set up wrong at the svn site, something wrong with the directory/filestructure on the receiving end, or something wrong with the command used.
[12:02] <jhutchins> Assid: Oh, or bad network connection.
[12:02] <Level15> it is a bad network connection... it will eventually time out
[12:02] <jhutchins> Assid: Since svn isn't really an interactive program, it's not surprizing that it's not listening to stdio for Ctrl-C but has to be killed.
[12:02] <Level15> i think the svn site is down/unreachable/something like that
[12:03] <Assid> here.. try it yourself : svn co svn://svn.beryl-project.org/beryl/trunk/emerald-themes-repo /tmp/theme
[12:03] <jhutchins> Level15: So kinda a combination of 1 & 4.
[12:03] <jhutchins> No interest in beryl.  I don't alpha-test eye-candy, I do real work.
[12:03] <endlevel> can anyone tell me ?? how install .rpm file in KUBUNTU ??/
[12:04] <stdin> Assid: beryl is no longer developed
[12:04] <gnyffel> endlevel: alien is a possibility
[12:04] <stdin> !rpm | endlevel
[12:04] <ubotu> endlevel: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:04] <Assid> stdin: ?
[12:04] <stdin> Assid: compiz-fusion
[12:05] <Assid> on kubuntu ?
[12:05] <gnyffel> Assid: beryl and compiz merged
[12:05] <Assid> yeah i was reading something like that
[12:05] <obf213> my suspend, was working perfectly now it doesnt work
[12:05] <obf213> i hvnt changed any settings.
[12:05] <Assid> but still .. this should work right
[12:06] <stdin> Assid: most of the beryl site is down now, try fusion https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[12:07] <endlevel> my Computer Shows this messege "
[12:07] <endlevel> The program 'alien' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[12:07] <endlevel> sudo apt-get install alien
[12:07] <endlevel> bash: alien: command not found
[12:07] <Assid> great .. now someone tells me
[12:07] <stdin> endlevel: yes, you have to install it with the command it gave you "sudo apt-get install alien"
[12:07] <vzduch> endlevel: what for?
[12:09] <endlevel> but now show this " E: Couldn't find package alien
[12:09] <vzduch> endlevel: what for?
[12:09] <stdin> !info alien
[12:09] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.65 (feisty), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[12:09] <stdin> endlevel: what are you trying to install?
[12:10] <endlevel> a software i download from softpedia.com
[12:10] <vzduch> what software?
[12:10] <Assid> stdin: screwed :(
[12:10] <endlevel> that is yahoo messenger for linux
[12:10] <stdin> Assid: why?
[12:10] <endlevel> name is " rh9.ymessenger-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm
[12:10] <vzduch> .oO( why is it that ppl can't be precise about what they're doing? )
[12:10] <RobNyc> can anyone help me upgrade to kde 3.5.7
[12:11] <stdin> endlevel: 1) yahoo have a .deb, 2) kopete works with yahoo and you already have that
[12:11] <vzduch> !kde
[12:11] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[12:11] <Assid> http://pastebin.ca/648033
[12:11] <Assid> stdin: ^
[12:11] <lnxkde> RobNyc: !!
[12:11] <RobNyc> lnxkde: !!!!!!!!!!!1
[12:11] <RobNyc> cuanto tiempo
[12:11] <lnxkde> RobNyc: q hay?
[12:11] <evilmm> i actually prefer gaim to kopete
[12:11] <RobNyc> lnxkde: mucho man y tu
[12:12] <lnxkde>  /join #prlinux
[12:12] <RobNyc> vzduch: thanks but that didnt help i already have 3.5.6
[12:12] <stdin> Assid: did you add the sources and apt-get update?
[12:12] <endlevel> i have kopete where i can use YAHOO ...
[12:12] <Assid> stdin: yes
[12:12] <Assid> and i also disabled the beryl source
[12:13] <endlevel> but if i want to install .rpm file in KUBUNTU ...so how i can ?
[12:13] <evilmm> alien
[12:13] <Assid> stdin: http://pastebin.ca/648038
[12:13] <Assid> when i try to fix it
[12:13] <endlevel> alien not work in KUBUNTU 7.04
[12:13] <evilmm> ah
[12:13] <gnyffel> vzduch: if 3.5.7 is the newest version available in Kubuntu, why am I not notified of the upgrade through apt? Is it stable?
[12:13] <vzduch> endlevel: you don't need to, so why bother?
[12:14] <vzduch> gnyffel: because it's not in the default repos
[12:14] <evilmm> i rarely if ever install enything out of repos so
[12:14] <stdin> Assid: did you have compiz-extra already installed?
[12:14] <evilmm> i just with they would put pidgin in there