| thumper | lifeless: looks to me as if the library functions under the cover have changed | 12:19 |
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| poolie | hello | 12:19 |
| thumper | lifeless: which is then calling different methods on the custom stream class | 12:19 |
| thumper | morning poolie | 12:19 |
| lifeless | thumper: ah so the standard doesn't really specify then? Whats the best canonical reference for doing custom streams | 12:20 |
| lifeless | thumper: when I was doing that one the best docs I found where a powerpoint presentation from a c++ conference | 12:20 |
| thumper | lifeless: the standard only dictates the interface and behaviour | 12:20 |
| thumper | lifeless: "I/O streams and locales" by Angelica Langer and someone else or "C++ standard library" by Nico Josuttis | 12:21 |
| lifeless | thanks | 12:21 |
| thumper | I find Nico's book one of the best | 12:21 |
| thumper | and I suggest C++ people get it after Meyer's books | 12:22 |
| thumper | poolie: you back in AU now? | 12:22 |
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| poolie | yes, i am | 12:22 |
| thumper | poolie: up for a call? | 12:22 |
| thumper | lifeless: also, if this is a change in behaviour in GCC, I'd expect the same behaviour in ubuntu with the same compiler | 12:23 |
| lifeless | indeed | 12:24 |
| lifeless | poolie is in demand today :) | 12:24 |
| poolie | mm, i expected to be | 12:27 |
| poolie | prices will rise accordingly :) | 12:27 |
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| lifeless | from $0 to $0 ? :) | 12:29 |
| poolie | which reminds me, did you get an Economist yet? | 12:31 |
| lifeless | yes indeed - thank you! | 12:31 |
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| superm1 | apparently dogfood.launchpad.net is down right now? | 03:11 |
| superm1 | is this intended | 03:11 |
| RAOF | It's been down for quite a while for me. | 03:11 |
| superm1 | i've been out of town all weekend :) | 03:11 |
| superm1 | then are ppa items building | 03:11 |
| superm1 | if submitted to upload.launchpad.net? | 03:11 |
| superm1 | er upload.dogfood.launchpad.net | 03:12 |
| Fujitsu | I doubt it. | 03:12 |
| superm1 | Fujitsu, i ask because i got an email back from dogfood telling me that it was accepted, so wondered if it would still build | 03:13 |
| Fujitsu | OK, looks like it's just the web UI broken then. If one bit of Soyuz is working, the rest probably is too. | 03:14 |
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| kiko-afk | hmmm, something's not looking good there | 03:16 |
| kiko-afk | cprov-ZzZ? | 03:16 |
| superm1 | well without the web ui avail, do you know what the structure was to browse the contents of a ppa? | 03:19 |
| superm1 | just directory listing and such | 03:19 |
| Fujitsu | ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/yourusername | 03:20 |
| superm1 | ah easy nough, thx Fujitsu | 03:21 |
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| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! | 04:00 |
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| manchicken_ | Does lauchpad have a place where I can put documentation about my project? | 04:13 |
| mpt | manchicken_, depends what kind of "documentation" | 04:22 |
| mpt | (that's quite a vague term!) | 04:22 |
| mpt | You can have informational specifications about the development process etc | 04:23 |
| mpt | To do that, register a blueprint, and change its "Implementation status" to "Informational" | 04:23 |
| mpt | (The specification itself isn't kept in Launchpad, though, but it will be eventually) | 04:23 |
| manchicken_ | mpt: Like, a wiki, etc. | 04:24 |
| manchicken_ | I've registered my own little project. | 04:24 |
| manchicken_ | I'm wondering if I'm gonna have to deal with my own wiki. | 04:24 |
| mpt | manchicken_, a wiki is just a CMS, that doesn't tell me what sort of documentation it is :-) | 04:24 |
| mpt | Alternatively, if you mean help pages, you can register answers to common questions in the Answers app | 04:24 |
| manchicken_ | For kubuntu stuff I do I just use the ubuntu wiki... | 04:24 |
| manchicken_ | mpt: Library documentation. | 04:24 |
| mpt | Library documentation? | 04:24 |
| mpt | As in, how programmers can use a particular library? | 04:25 |
| manchicken_ | Yeah. Documenting an AJAX perl library I put up. | 04:25 |
| manchicken_ | Yessir. | 04:25 |
| mpt | Well, Launchpad doesn't have its own wiki | 04:25 |
| mpt | so probably you will need to set up your own at the moment | 04:26 |
| manchicken_ | Okie dokie. Thanks. | 04:28 |
| cprov-ZzZ | Fujitsu: https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ is back | 04:38 |
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| Fujitsu | cprov-ZzZ: Doesn't really affect me, but thanks! | 04:44 |
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| c00i90wn | Hi, one little question, how do I disable the code tab for my project? | 05:24 |
| Fujitsu | c00i90wn: You can't, at this time. | 05:25 |
| c00i90wn | Fujitsu: Oh I thought it was possible already since ubuntu, bazaar, etc. have their code tab disabled :) | 05:26 |
| Fujitsu | c00i90wn: bazaar doesn't, and Ubuntu is a distribution so doesn't have Code support at this time. | 05:27 |
| c00i90wn | Fujitsu: well, that's actually what I want :) I won't be using launchpad bzr, I prefer darcs :) | 05:27 |
| Fujitsu | Well, as far as I know there is no facility to disable it. | 05:28 |
| c00i90wn | Fujitsu: allright :) thanks :) | 05:28 |
| c00i90wn | and is there any plan to introduce other revision systems? | 05:29 |
| Fujitsu | c00i90wn: I don't think so, but I'm not a dev or anything. | 05:35 |
| c00i90wn | Fujitsu: ok, thanks again :) | 05:38 |
| Fujitsu | np | 05:38 |
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| superm1 | Well I appear to have spoken soon to be thinking ppa was fully functional still other than the GUI on dogfood | 06:09 |
| superm1 | it accepts/rejects source packages, but nothing has built in the last 6 hours | 06:09 |
| Fujitsu | superm1: cprov said it's OK now, but perhaps the buildd queuer hasn't been turned back on. | 06:09 |
| superm1 | Fujitsu, does something special need to be added to the source package to allow universe packages in the builds? | 06:12 |
| superm1 | like a section: universe? | 06:12 |
| Fujitsu | If it build-depends on !main, it needs to be in that section. | 06:13 |
| superm1 | what if it build depends on both universe and multiverse? | 06:13 |
| superm1 | should it be in section: multiverse then? | 06:13 |
| jamesh | section: multiverse then | 06:13 |
| superm1 | adding this to packages, will it break uploads to the normal archive? | 06:13 |
| jamesh | the idea is that all of ubuntu main can be built out of only packages in main, universe only with packages in main and universe, etc | 06:14 |
| superm1 | right. | 06:14 |
| superm1 | i've had uploads that didn't have this specified put into the archive, so i'm assuming that the archive admins would just place it in the appropriate location | 06:15 |
| jamesh | if you package depends on stuff in multiverse, then it probably belongs there too | 06:15 |
| superm1 | in the archive it is already in multiverse indeed | 06:15 |
| Fujitsu | It doesn't matter for normal packages, because it's all controlled by overrides. Only in PPAs does the section need to be manually specified. | 06:18 |
| superm1 | will it hurt in normal packages to put this there? | 06:19 |
| superm1 | Also if the section was say "Section: graphics", it should be "Section: multiverse/graphics" then instead | 06:19 |
| Fujitsu | I don't know of any packages in the Ubuntu archive that have the component specified in the source, but it shouldn't hurt anything. | 06:21 |
| superm1 | well i'd ideally like to be able to test the same debdiff in ppa prior to putting it into the archive | 06:21 |
| superm1 | so it would make more sense at least for me to be able to do it this way | 06:22 |
| Fujitsu | In an ideal world, PPA would have overrides, but I've no idea if that's planned. | 06:22 |
| superm1 | on ppa do the binaries need the same Section: multiverse/blah added, or is that then implied | 06:22 |
| superm1 | by the source being in multiverse | 06:22 |
| Fujitsu | I think it's implied. | 06:22 |
| Fujitsu | But I don't know how it has been implemented. | 06:23 |
| superm1 | well i'll experiment then | 06:23 |
| superm1 | is that the correct way to list it though with "Section: multiverse/blah"? | 06:23 |
| Fujitsu | Yes. | 06:23 |
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| carlos | morning | 08:53 |
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| tumbleweed | is there any way to subscribe to a remote bug in launchpad, without f * | 03:53 |
| tumbleweed | is there any way to subscribe to a remote bug in launchpad, without first reporting it to a launchpad-managed project? | 03:53 |
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| tumbleweed | hmm, nobody? | 03:57 |
| mwhudson | tumbleweed: i don't think so | 03:59 |
| Odd_Bloke | tumbleweed: Why not subscribe in the upstream bug tracker? | 04:00 |
| tumbleweed | Odd_Bloke: it means creating accounts - I thought that's why launchpad *had* remote bug tracking... | 04:00 |
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| Odd_Bloke | tumbleweed: Fair enough. I think the upstream bug tracking is also there so that distributions can keep track of which bugs are in packages and which are upstream... | 04:01 |
| tumbleweed | Odd_Bloke: of course, but why not be more general? | 04:02 |
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| tumbleweed | hmm, duh, remote bug tracking doesn't seem to do what I'm atfer, anyway :-( | 04:05 |
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| mvo | is there a way to see OOPS-583D1520 and what causes it? I get this when I test the libapt apport package error launchpad uploading | 04:35 |
| ubotu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/583D1520 | 04:35 |
| mvo | no luck when I tried it a second time, this time OOPS-583C1609 | 04:40 |
| ubotu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/583C1609 | 04:40 |
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| salgado | mvo, it takes some time (10 min, IIRC) for the oops logs to be synced to devpad | 04:41 |
| salgado | that may be the reason... usually we just have to wait a bit | 04:41 |
| mvo | aha, ok | 04:42 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #130672 in soyuz "germinate output for Gobuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130672 | 05:25 |
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| mtaylor | does my - don't blog about it agreement mean I can't post links to my PPA until it's prod? | 06:15 |
| mtaylor | and another PPA question... is there a "good" way to push packages for more than one release other than making a source package for each one? | 06:16 |
| mtaylor | like, if I had a package that should build from source properly on feisty and gutsy with no packaging changes, do I still have to make two branches and push two source packages? | 06:17 |
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| sabdfl | mtaylor: everything will get nuked before we move to production, iirc | 06:44 |
| sabdfl | and yes, i agree, it should be possible to target multiple series with a single upload | 06:45 |
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| superm1 | cprov-out, is there a way for PPA to include binaries of uploaded (and built) packages as possibilities for resolving build dependencies? | 07:31 |
| superm1 | in future uploads/builds | 07:31 |
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| moaiamorfo | hi all | 08:07 |
| moaiamorfo | I have a question: can I use Launchpad to translate a programming language manual? | 08:08 |
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| moaiamorfo | no answers? | 08:11 |
| mwhudson | moaiamorfo: in what sense do you mean "can" ? | 08:14 |
| mwhudson | i don't think launchpad translations is set up to translate a book | 08:15 |
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| moaiamorfo | mwhudson: I mean, I want to open a project under Launchpad to translate the Python reference from English to Italian | 08:15 |
| mwhudson | otoh, if you mean something like "can i use launchpad to host a bazaar branches containing the docbook source for the book" then, sure, so long as it's all open source | 08:16 |
| mwhudson | hm | 08:16 |
| mwhudson | well, you can do that, but why not just do it in a branch associated with python? | 08:16 |
| moaiamorfo | in what sense "with Python"? | 08:17 |
| mwhudson | 'bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~<you>/python/italian-reference | 08:19 |
| moaiamorfo | what the bazaar is? | 08:21 |
| mwhudson | the source control system that works with launchpad | 08:22 |
| mwhudson | let me back up | 08:22 |
| mwhudson | i'm not sure what you want to achieve, here | 08:23 |
| ubotu | New bug: #130706 in launchpad "Cannot Cancel Pending Membership Request" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130706 | 08:25 |
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| kiko | moaiamorfo: is the python doc in pofile format? | 08:58 |
| moaiamorfo | mwhudson: uhm | 08:59 |
| moaiamorfo | kiko: I don't know | 08:59 |
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| moaiamorfo | I just want a collaborative way to start the translation | 09:06 |
| kiko | moaiamorfo, if the doc were in pofile format it'd be fine to use rosetta. but I don't think it is, which means you'll need to manage it using another tool | 09:07 |
| kiko | mwhudson suggested using the bazaar revision control system | 09:07 |
| moaiamorfo | kiko: this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazaar_%28software%29 | 09:08 |
| moaiamorfo | is it like Subversion? | 09:10 |
| kiko | yes. | 09:10 |
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| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 10:30 |
| ajmitch | morning mpt | 10:31 |
| Odd_Bloke | Good morning mpt. | 10:32 |
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| LaserJock | matsubara: around? | 10:49 |
| matsubara | LaserJock: Hi Jordan | 10:50 |
| LaserJock | matsubara: I'm not entirely sure what you're looking for in bug #130051 | 10:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 130051 in malone "+text doesn't work for full bug URL" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130051 | 10:56 |
| LaserJock | matsubara: when I went to the bug I expected to be able to use +text | 10:56 |
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| jhancock_ | I was trying to push directly to launchpad using bzr and I got this error. | 10:56 |
| jhancock_ | http://pastebin.com/d4e2e990e | 10:56 |
| jhancock_ | and I followed this short and easy tutorial to set it up | 10:56 |
| jhancock_ | https://svn.schooltool.org/trac/cando/wiki/LaunchpadTutorial | 10:56 |
| jhancock_ | I might be doing something wrong | 10:57 |
| jhancock_ | or the tutorial might do something wrong | 10:57 |
| jhancock_ | I don't know | 10:57 |
| jhancock_ | Can anyone help me? | 11:00 |
| matsubara | LaserJock: I just think the former URL in the report are more useful than the latter. the +text version of the bugtask url would show only the status of the given bugtask. | 11:00 |
| LaserJock | matsubara: but in the web UI you are sent to the later | 11:00 |
| LaserJock | matsubara: so you *have* to use bug.launchpad/bugs/#/+text | 11:00 |
| LaserJock | which I can't find documented anywhere, btw | 11:00 |
| matsubara | LaserJock: that "feature" wasn't supposed to last. | 11:05 |
| LaserJock | matsubara: I guess, but kiko keeps telling me it's the way to go ;-) | 11:05 |
| kiko | matsubara, and my question is always, why not? | 11:07 |
| matsubara | because we're supposed to have a nice xmlrpc interface instead of relying on parsing the +text page? | 11:08 |
| kiko | matsubara, what would the xmlrpc interface return to you, in that case? | 11:15 |
| matsubara | LaserJock: anyway, do you think the ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/26419/+text should display the same info as the bugs/26419/+text? | 11:15 |
| matsubara | kiko: anything that you would like to query about the bug or bugtask. | 11:15 |
| kiko | I think they can be the same, but I also think that more information could be added to that. | 11:15 |
| kiko | if you're asking me :) | 11:15 |
| kiko | matsubara, and in what format would it be returned? | 11:15 |
| thumper | morning | 11:15 |
| matsubara | kiko: probably a nice xml | 11:15 |
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| kiko | morning thumperoo | 11:15 |
| kiko | matsubara, see, this is where this argument falls down. where is xml better than rfc-822? | 11:15 |
| kiko | where is xml even "nice"? | 11:15 |
| kiko | I find it harder to read | 11:15 |
| kiko | and it's harder to parse (you can no longer use cut-n-grep) | 11:15 |
| thumper | hi kiko | 11:15 |
| matsubara | maybe you're right. | 11:16 |
| matsubara | I just thought we'd not improve the +text page anymore... | 11:17 |
| LaserJock | well | 11:17 |
| LaserJock | if you're using xml for queries then it makes sense I suppose | 11:17 |
| kiko | xmlrpc is not xml, though | 11:18 |
| kiko | there is nothing xml-ish that the programmer needs to deal with | 11:18 |
| kiko | in a way xmlrpc is poorly named because it underlines the format, and not the service | 11:19 |
| LaserJock | I thought you still used xml to do queries, but admittedly I know close to nothing about xmlrpc | 11:19 |
| kiko | no | 11:19 |
| LaserJock | these +text pages are nice for data mining LP | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | but I'd like to see a doc on what pages have +text pages | 11:20 |
| kiko | LaserJock, matsubara: http://docs.python.org/lib/xmlrpc-client-example.html | 11:22 |
| kiko | >>> server = ServerProxy("http://betty.userland.com") | 11:22 |
| ajmitch | xml-rpc & python can be done nicely | 11:22 |
| ajmitch | afaik it's been on the todo list for launchpad for awhile | 11:22 |
| matsubara | LaserJock: there're only 2 pages with +text versions: +bug/XXX/+text and project/+bugs-text | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | isn't there also a text for search results? | 11:23 |
| LaserJock | dang it, my memory sucks | 11:23 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: is there anything we gain with xml-rpc over plain text pages? | 11:24 |
| matsubara | I believe it's the +bugs-text one, which returns all bugs for the given project/source package. | 11:24 |
| LaserJock | oh right, sorry, doh | 11:24 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: that xml-rpc is meant to be used for callign remote procedures | 11:24 |
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| ajmitch | so not much | 11:25 |
| LaserJock | If we have a good email+plain text interface do we need xml-rpc? | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | it does mean you wouldn't have to build query strings up yourself for searches | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | the ServerProxy that kiko was talking about earlier means that you can treat things as a normal python object in your code & get results from methods | 11:27 |
| kiko | >>> print server.examples.getStateName(41) | 11:27 |
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| kiko | South Dakota | 11:43 |
| kiko | no xml! :) | 11:43 |
| kiko | right | 11:43 |
| kiko | bugs-text actually does query IIRC | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | ok, now I understand matsubara's question better | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | bug 26419 can be either https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-session/+bug/26419 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/26419 | 11:43 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 26419 in gnome-session "gnome-session hangs when "lo" is not correctly configured" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Sebastien Bacher (seb128) | 11:43 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 26419 in gnome-session "gnome-session hangs when "lo" is not correctly configured" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26419 - Assigned to Sebastien Bacher (seb128) | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | so the question would be what data would +text have for the individual tasks | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | well, that's confusing | 11:43 |
| kiko | right | 11:43 |
| kiko | I was just saying that +bugs-text right now accepts GET parameters | 11:43 |
| kiko | I'm not arguing against an RPC interface! | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | but how the heck do you guys decide where launchpad.net/bugs/# goes? | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | that was my problem | 11:43 |
| kiko | the redirect? I think it goes to the first task | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | right | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | so in a practical sense | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | I go to the bug in my browser and expect to be able to put +text on the end | 11:46 |
| LaserJock | but instead I need to make a new URL | 11:46 |
| matsubara | LaserJock: sorry if I wasn't clear. | 11:46 |
| kiko | the content should be identical | 11:47 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm just having an idiot day I guess. I didn't realize there was a URL for *each* task | 11:47 |
| LaserJock | I thought it was all one report/URL | 11:47 |
| LaserJock | now I get what you mean by "context bugtask" | 11:48 |
| LaserJock | you guys don't happen to have a glossary do you? ;-) | 11:50 |
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| kiko | heh | 12:09 |
| kiko | ajmitch, I am in favor of "bugtask" 100% but I'm just a voice in the crows it seems | 12:09 |
| ajmitch | kiko: took me awhile to understand bugtasks but I'm certainly not opposed to calling them that :) | 12:14 |
| kiko | ajmitch, the problem is if you /don't/ call them bugtasks, what do you call them? :) | 12:14 |
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| ajmitch | 'bug entrails' | 12:14 |
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