[12:30] <opop> same with all your consoles, 1-6?
[12:32] <h8crime> yeah, although some have log messages
[12:35] <opop> h8crime, if you open gterm, do you get a login?
[12:37] <opop> !dev
[12:37] <ubotu> Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[12:37] <opop> is there a gutsy dev channel?
[12:37] <opop> besides U+1?
[12:41] <__mikem> does anyone have a screenshot of kubuntu gutsy
[12:56] <h8crime> opop: yeah i can run x fine
[12:57] <c1|freaky> opop: #ubuntu-devel
[12:59] <__mikem> God d***it, take a look at this piece of $h!t fresh from redmond http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver/facts/default.mspx
[01:00] <__mikem> ooh crap I am in the wrong chanel
[01:00] <__mikem> I am soo sorry
[01:01] <opop> h8crime, right, you can run X, but do you get a login when you run a terminal from within an X session?
[01:04] <h8crime> yes
[01:04] <h8crime> everything works fine in x
[01:05] <opop> ok then...
[01:06] <opop> silly question, but did yu hit <<enter>> when you were in the console?  sometimes it needs a jumpstart
[01:26] <defcon> does anyone know if gutsy will implement a full drive encryption option for the install process?
[01:40] <pwnguin> out of curiousity, why is the fluendo codec in universe?
[01:41] <RAOF> Because its not officially supported; universe is not for "ugh, licensing" packages (that's multiverse :))
[01:41] <pwnguin> it seems like that's the sort of thing you'd want to move into main
[01:42] <pwnguin> or restricted
[01:43] <h8crime> opop: yesi tried hitting everything
[01:55] <opop> i'm gonna recompile the generic kernel without vesafb support, and with nvidiafb support instead.  Is there a good reason not to do this?
[01:55] <crdlb> opop, nvidiafb doesn't work with the prop drivers
[01:55] <crdlb> iirc
[01:55] <opop> crdlb, well, that's as good a reason as any.
[01:55] <opop> crdlb, vesafb is now compiled into the kernel (module is not even an option in the config)
[01:56] <opop> vesafb is not working properly on the console with nvidia cards, as evidenced by some new bug or other I found on launchpad
[01:56] <opop> it's a new bug, so I don't expect a fix for at least a few kernel iterations.
[01:57] <opop> could be a true kernel bug, since that's new functionality since .6, but, I dunno
[01:58] <opop> long story short, I'm abandoning the search.
[01:59] <opop> does the prop driver provide a framebuffer extension?
[02:02] <RAOF> opop: Which prop drivers?  Mine work just fine :)
[02:23] <eddiedean> RAOF, nvidia's.
[02:23] <eddiedean> RAOF, the problem is, vesafb isn't working, but it's in the kernel as opposed to modular, so I can't turn it off.
[02:24] <eddiedean> i guess I just don't know what I'm doing
[02:27] <theverant> is this the right channel for kubuntu+1 discussion, or is there another?
[02:30] <jrib> theverant: here is ok
[02:46] <jarrett> has anyone had a problem with compiz fusion crashing with the error "Checking for Xgl: not present" and found a fix?
[02:47] <sn0> jarrett it should say more than that, try launching from the terminal
[02:48] <jarrett> sn0: it does but that seems to be the only thing wrong, one sec, ill put the full message in a pasetbin
[02:48] <sn0> hokay
[02:48] <sn0> bug 122941
[02:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122941 in compiz "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in exit()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122941
[02:51] <jarrett> so it seems there is no workaround?
[02:52] <RAOF> jarrett: Only start compiz once per boot?
[02:52] <jarrett> RAOF: it never starts, sometimes i will get a crash report for compiz.real but others it seems to not even start
[02:53] <RAOF> Oh, that's different to what I'm seeing then.
[02:55] <jarrett> here is the full output http://pastebin.com/d3b6882bb
[02:55] <crdlb> jarrett, <FusioBot> To fix your beryl/compiz window decorations (titlebars) with an nVidia graphics card, run  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 , then restart !X.
[02:56] <sn0> :)
[02:57] <jarrett> alright wish me luck
[02:58] <jarrett> no luck :(
[02:58] <crdlb> you ctrl+alt+bksped?
[02:58] <jarrett> yes
[02:59] <crdlb> do you still get /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32 ?
[03:00] <jarrett> the end of the error is a bit different http://pastebin.com/d765a3713
[03:01] <crdlb> it's not segfaulting anymore
[03:02] <jarrett> do i need to configure xorg for xgl?
[03:02] <crdlb> you don't need Xgl
[03:02] <crdlb> although it might work in Xgl
[03:02] <jarrett> what do i need then
[03:03] <RAOF> jarrett: And if you wait a little bit, Xgl setup will be as simple as "apt-get install xserver-xgl xsession-xgl-kde"
[03:04] <jarrett> RAOF: whats the solution for the impatient :)
[03:05] <crdlb> RAOF, how does it handle the difference between nvidia and ati?
[03:05] <RAOF> jarrett:
[03:05] <RAOF> crdlb: Same way as compiz does.
[03:05] <RAOF> I stole the compiz wrapper script's nvidia detection :P
[03:05] <crdlb> how is that?
[03:05] <crdlb> ohhh
[03:06] <crdlb> heh why did nobody think to do that before?
[03:06] <RAOF> Because they weren't packaging up some xsessions
[03:07] <crdlb> yes that part too :)
[03:07] <RAOF> jarrett: For the impatient... I could throw up some debs on my webserver.
[03:07] <crdlb> or you could set up Xgl manually :)
[03:07] <RAOF> Soft!
[03:07] <RAOF> And that wouldn't help test the new xgl :(
[03:08] <crdlb> :P
[03:08] <jarrett> i would rather do it manually, but i dont mind doing some testing for you
[03:23] <RAOF> jarrett: Building now.
[03:25] <jarrett> RAOF: sweet
[03:35] <RAOF> jarrett: www.cooperteam.net
[03:37] <jarrett> RAOF: do i just need the kde one?
[03:38] <RAOF> jarrett: Yup.  Unless you *want* a gnome session :)
[03:38] <jarrett> RAOF: i also have gnome installed, but dont use it much
[03:39] <RAOF> jarrett: If you want a gnome xgl session, by all means, install the gnome xsession.
[03:39] <RAOF> They don't conflict, or anything.
[03:39] <crdlb> RAOF, how are the sessions named?
[03:39] <jarrett> RAOF: alright, thanks, do i also need the xserver-xgl package
[03:39] <crdlb> jarrett, yes
[03:39] <RAOF> Gnome (Xgl), KDE (Xgl), XFCE (Xgl)
[03:40] <RAOF> jarrett: Yup.  Although gdebi will scream at you if you haven't installed the xserver package :)
[03:40] <crdlb> yeah that's good, should help with a lot of confusion about what Xgl is
[03:41] <crdlb> ie "boot into Xgl, not gnome"
[03:41] <RAOF> :)
[03:42] <crdlb> RAOF, wow, all of CompositeManager/Xgl is now one apt-get command :)
[03:42] <jarrett> RAOF: xserver-xorg-core?
[03:44] <jarrett> RAOF: xserver-xgl wont install
[03:44] <jarrett> it opens gdebi gets to 93% of reading the package and closes
[03:49] <RAOF> jarrett: Hm.  Can you do it with just dpkg --install?  It's possible that gdebi is broken :)
[03:49] <RAOF> crdlb: That's the idea, yes :)
[03:53] <jarrett> RAOF: looks like you were right
[03:53] <RAOF> :)
[03:54] <jarrett> alright, wish me luck again
[03:55] <kousotu> RAOF: woul you help me in coding that plugin thing?
[03:56] <RAOF> kousotu: I don't have time, sorry
[03:56] <kousotu> RAOF: darn.. k
[04:01] <jarrett> well that got xgl working but didnt do much for compiz
[04:01] <RAOF> Compiz still dies?  Bah.
[04:02] <RAOF> (You are using the KDE (Xgl) session, right?)
[04:04] <kousotu> RAOF: how do I geta mp3 decoder for k3b?
[04:05] <RAOF> No idea, sorry.  Search help.ubuntu.com/community ?
[04:06] <kousotu> RAOF: I thoght I had it already...
[04:07] <kousotu> RAOF: would you know how to code konversation for WInxp?
[04:07] <kousotu> would like to port it
[04:08] <RAOF> kousotu: I've done a small amount of windows programming.  But no.
[04:08] <kousotu> darn...
[04:08] <kousotu> lol
[04:09] <theverant> anyone know why all my KMenu entries have "_: Entries in K Menu:" prefexing them?
[04:09] <theverant> correction: *most*, not *all*
[05:17] <IdleOne> can someone tell me how to start the virtualbox GUI?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: from the menu, usually
[05:19] <IdleOne> Hobbsee, I dont see it in the menu
[05:20] <IdleOne> and typing virtualbox in terminal returns command not found
[05:21] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: it's case sensitive - VirtualBox
[05:21] <IdleOne> ty
[05:21] <kousotu> Hobbsee: might beother
[05:22] <kousotu> < uses Gnome
[05:46] <Kousotu> wth?
[05:46] <Kousotu> lol
[05:46] <Kousotu> [22:45:40]  [Info-#ubuntu+1]  Discovered on Sun Nov 26 00:42:45 2006
[05:46] <Kousotu>  Cannot join #ubuntu+1 registered nickname only +R
[05:46] <Kousotu> [22:46:11]  Kousotu : wth?
[05:46] <Kousotu> [22:46:14]  Kousotu : lol
[05:48] <Kousotu> ?
[05:49] <Hobbsee> weird.
[05:49] <Kousotu> lol
[05:49] <Kousotu> yea, I am regitered
[05:49] <Hobbsee> for some reason, it doesnt show -r's
[05:49] <Hobbsee> or r's
[05:49] <Kousotu> and it gave me that error
[05:49] <Kousotu> registered*
[05:49] <Hobbsee> freenode must be on crack, or something.  it wasnt showing +R
[05:51] <Kousotu> lol
[05:54] <Kousotu> wha's the libdvdcss site?
[05:54] <Kousotu> medibutnu.org?
[05:54] <IdleOne> !libdvdcss
[05:55] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:55] <IdleOne> medibuntu also has it
[05:55] <Kousotu> the medi site
[05:55] <Kousotu> what is it?
[05:55] <Kousotu> lol
[05:55] <IdleOne> medibuntu.com/.et/.org try them all
[05:56] <IdleOne> hell there isnt that many choices to pick from
[05:56] <Kousotu> lol
[05:56] <Hobbsee> locate install-css.sh, run it.
[05:57] <Kousotu> .co.jp .tk .net
[05:57] <Kousotu> lol
[05:57] <Hobbsee> and assuming someone hasnt merged, and killed my changes *again*, it'll still be executable.
[05:57] <Kousotu> there's tones of .* nline
[05:57] <IdleOne> this is awsome! I am install Gutsy inside Gutsy :)
[05:57] <IdleOne> installing
[05:57] <Kousotu> wth?
[05:57] <Kousotu> lol
[05:58] <Hobbsee> VM.
[05:59] <IdleOne> the install is actually faster in the VM then the actual install on my machiner lmao
[06:00] <IdleOne> wonder how VirtualBox handles multiple cd installs
[06:46] <DanaG> Argh, sometimes when scrolling in Firefox, all of Xorg (except for the cursor movement) will lock up for a few seconds randomly.
[06:48] <malnilion> Sometimes when running compiz, everything locks up too :P
[06:49] <malnilion> My favorite is that when compiz is enabled and I run a fullscreen game, it has a tendency to crash the x server
[06:49] <DanaG> Oh, and the input buffer will still be accumulating events, so I'll suddenly have all my buttons and clicks happen after the system unfreezes.
[06:49] <malnilion> Hehe, yeah kinda cool to see, but not cool to experience
[06:56] <malnilion> So for compiz...are rotating cube *and* desktop wall going to both be enabled by default?
[07:00] <DanaG> Not possible.
[07:00] <DanaG> They are two discrete ways of providing multiple desktops, so you can't do both at once in any reasonable manner.
[07:00] <DanaG> Unless somebody makes a combined plugin, but one does not exist right now.
[07:02] <malnilion> Yeah, I had both enabled somehow and it was kinda annoying.
[07:02] <malnilion> I like the desktop wall method better, it seems faster and more accurate than the cube method.
[07:03] <malnilion> The new compiz configure tool is quite nice.
[07:10] <malnilion> So, I guess there's going to be debate about which method should be default...cube or wall?
[07:15] <DanaG> Argh, wording on Window Previews:
[07:15] <DanaG> Paint Window Like Background.
[07:16] <DanaG> That's broken.  Why would you want to make the window look like the background?
[07:16] <RAOF> DanaG: File a bug :)
[07:16] <DanaG> What it really does is this: Use Window-like background.
[07:17] <DanaG> Note the hyphen or dash, whichever you happen to call it.
[07:20] <DanaG> Argh, Firefox has its tooltips as type PopupMenu.
[07:21] <RAOF> :)
[07:22] <malnilion> What does that mean?
[07:23] <RAOF> I'm pretty sure there's a tooltip window type.
[07:25] <DanaG> What I mean is, if I set menus to animate one way and tooltips to animate another (they are separated, but set to the same animation, by default),
[07:25] <DanaG> you'll see tooltips in Firefox are animated as menus.
[07:25] <malnilion> Yeah, that makes sense.
[07:26] <malnilion> I don't think I *really* want my tooltips shivering into place.
[07:27] <DanaG> I have tooltips set to fade, and menus to "beam up".
[07:27] <DanaG> I used to use Horizontal Folds for tooltips, but now that they expand from the center, it makes that animation visually wrong.
[07:28] <DanaG> It used to look like a segmented thingy dropping down, but now it doesn't.
[07:37] <Kousotu> how do I give boot.ini a grub option?
[07:42] <Kousotu> how do I give boot.ini a grub option?
[07:44] <Kousotu> wb DreamThief
[07:54] <Kousotu> how do I give boot.ini a grub option?
[08:07] <Kousotu> can someone help with bootpart?
[08:28] <Kousotu> can someone help with bootpart? (NOT GRUB)
[08:59] <keram> hey
[08:59] <keram> what is a good tool for detecting available wireless networks
[08:59] <RAOF> network manager
[09:03] <keram> there another one?
[09:03] <keram> maybe more similar to the windows network sniffer
[09:06] <lamalex> keram: try wifiradar?
[09:06] <keram> alright thanks
[09:06] <keram> i will give it a shot
[09:08] <databuddy> yaknow installed feisty also to play around
[09:08] <databuddy> turns out that compiz/beryl work good on it vs much mroe broken in gutsy - that screenfreeze thing
[09:08] <databuddy> hm.. gotta track that down and submit bug i guess
[10:37] <Zdra> Hi, is there some gutsy packages to install the "Nouveau" free nvidia driver ?
[11:12] <vm> hey all, i just installed ubuntu 7.10 tribe 3, how do i get desktop effects working if i have an ati video card?
[11:14] <vm> ??
[11:14] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > heh hi
[11:14] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > i was wondering if fiesty fawn was supported under vmware
[11:15] <vm> where do i find the restricted driver manager in 7.10?
[11:29] <vm>  where do i find the restricted driver manager in 7.10?????
[11:30] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > i believe gdm
[11:32] <vm> htrm
[11:32] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > heh
[11:32] <vm> brb
[11:32] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > dang, where did i put my isos...
[11:32] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > kk
[11:47] <savvas> um.. when's the beta coming up?
[11:48] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > Ubuntu 7.10 Gusty Gibbon is scheduled to be released in October 2007
[11:48] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > i'd wait 'till then ;)
[11:49] <savvas> well i'd like to help a bit with bug fixing :)
[11:49] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > humm
[11:49] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > well, i don't know
[11:50] <savvas> i'll wait for tribe 4 or 5 then update
[11:50] <savvas> September 27th - beta release
[11:50] <savvas> ;p
[11:50] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > :P
[11:51] <DJ-DrIP[AR] > ty ;)
[12:11] <vm> how do i enable desktop effects with an ati card?
[12:15] <snadge> vm: depending on which piece of shit ati card you have.. determines whether its a royal pain in the ass, or next to impossible
[12:15] <vm> x1600
[12:15] <snadge> ok i'll try to be helpful now.. theres 3 drivers
[12:16] <vm> i had it workin on fiesty
[12:16] <rjek> Hmm!  Monarch discomfort in the donkey!
[12:16] <vm> i had to install an xgl session
[12:16] <snadge> fglrx (proprietry ati driver, best 3d support, lacks AIGLX support needed for eye candy)
[12:16] <snadge> yes.. you will need to do that again
[12:16] <vm> but i dnt know how to do it
[12:16] <vm> lol
[12:16] <snadge> i have a script somewhere which i use to start XGL
[12:16] <snadge> and can select it from the login screen
[12:17] <snadge> i got that by googling
[12:18] <vm> but to actually install xgl?
[12:18] <snadge> oh thats easy
[12:18] <snadge> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[12:19] <vm> hrm
[12:19] <vm> no i just needa find that session script
[12:19] <vm> and i cant find the restricted driver menu
[12:22] <snadge> i'd love to install gutsy and give it a whirl
[12:22] <snadge> but its more fun to wait until its released
[12:22] <snadge> install it.. then complain that its broken
[12:22] <snadge> :P
[12:22] <snadge> like i've done with every other ubuntu release
[12:25] <vm> lol
[12:25] <vm> it seems nice
[12:25] <vm> installed, and it booted in 1280x1024
[12:25] <vm> was like woes
[12:25] <vm> anywayz brb in like 2min
[12:35] <vm> hrm
[12:35] <vm> xgl is like really laggy
[12:35] <vm> and flickers
[12:37] <snadge> ahh you might need to enable this
[12:38] <snadge> compiz options -> Indirect Rednering
[12:38] <snadge> in compiz icon
[12:40] <vm> there is no compiz icon
[12:41] <vm> whats the command to get to the compiz setting
[12:42] <_4strO> yop yop
[12:43] <vm> any idea?
[12:48] <vm> hrm
[12:50] <snadge> haha
[12:57] <slytherin> Is Tracker going to be default in gutsy instead of beagle?
[01:00] <leperkhanz> Anybody found a way to tweak gutsy and get Ardour running?
[01:03] <mendred> leperkhanz: actually there was a bug in ardour which led to its crashing with gtk2 2.11..its been fixed in ardour 2.0.5
[01:03] <leperkhanz> I d/l the latest .deb from getdeb.net, but I haven't got it working either.  gdebi crashes before it finishes.
[01:04] <mendred> well...i installed an unofficial 2.0.5 dev
[01:04] <mendred> deb
[01:04] <mendred> and it now works fine
[01:04] <mendred> however its totally unsupported
[01:05] <mendred> so i wouldnt recommend it to others
[01:05] <leperkhanz> yes of course.... I don't expect perfection out of gutsy for another couple months... :D
[01:05] <rob> anyone know if the auto-codec installer made it into the latest tribe?
[01:06] <Amaranth> rob: dude that made it into feisty
[01:06] <rob> Amaranth, did it, I haven't seen it!
[01:06] <Amaranth> slytherin: yes, tracker is going to be the one
[01:07] <Amaranth> rob: only works with totem, rhythmbox, and the totem firefox plugins
[01:07] <leperkhanz> That is DAMNED good news!
[01:07] <rob> my files must not be exotic enough
[01:07] <mendred> leperkhanz: http://www.musix.org.ar/wordpress/?p=205
[01:07] <mendred> i am using the deb from that..
[01:07] <Amaranth> rob: or you just already installed the codecs :)
[01:07] <leperkhanz> thanks... I'll see if I can get it to work with out gdebi crashing!
[01:07] <rob> yeah, probably, as a matter of habit
[01:08] <mendred> mind u its an etch package..do not install anything else other than the ardour2 package
[01:08] <mendred> and be warned this is at your risk etc etc :)
[01:10] <leperkhanz> naturally.
[01:10] <leperkhanz> I'm in 64 bit though, so....
[01:10] <leperkhanz> Maybe I'll wait for some updates to gdebi... :D
[01:11] <mendred> leperkhanz: ok :)
[01:11] <mendred> leperkhanz: http://www.ardour.org/node/1153
[01:11] <mendred> i am assuming that was ur error
[01:12] <slytherin> Amaranth: Thanks for confirmation. Although I don't use desktop search tools much, I am sure this will help systems with low end configurations.
[01:14] <Amaranth> Can't beat super aggressive "I'll just get out of the way now" CPU utilization and like 4MB memory usage
[01:14] <Amaranth> when tracker needs to use the CPU is uses all available idle CPU to get done ASAP but scales back on demand so you never notice
[01:38] <leperkhanz> hmmm there is weird variable problems looking for files on my windows movie server in the living room.
[02:42] <IdleOne> I love how when running a pre-release version like gutsy every update is filled with heart pounding intensity hehe
[02:43] <IdleOne> makes you wanna have a parade when the update is over and your system still works. sorta kinda
[03:30] <alex-weej> help
[03:30] <alex-weej> dist-upgrade is trying to pull in tracker
[03:30] <alex-weej> world has gone mad
[03:38] <pvandewyngaerde> why not strigi ?
[03:40] <stdin> strigi is a recommend of kubuntu-desktop, tracker is a recommend of ubuntu-desktop
[03:41] <pvandewyngaerde> yeah i know, but why not use strigi for ubuntu, it has proven to be the best and outperform all others
[03:44] <stdin> strigi is quite tied in to KDE/Qt (at the moment anyway)
[03:44] <pvandewyngaerde> that is so not true
[03:45] <stdin> not the daemon, but the other parts are
[03:47] <pvandewyngaerde> its the deamon that matters !
[03:49] <stdin> if you can't access the daemon, what's the point? ;P
[03:55] <pvandewyngaerde> 'KDE' has a gui,so why cant gnome write one ?  there is also strigiclient and xmlindexer that dont need kde/qt , and strigi also implements Xesam
[03:55] <Q-FUNK> had linux-image-generic changed cpu option since feisty?
[03:55] <IdleOne> pvandewyngaerde, write a GUI for gnome and submit it for inclusion
[03:56] <stdin> pvandewyngaerde: and the client depends on Qt, that's why it's not in ubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <pvandewyngaerde> strigclient doesnt depend on QT, the GUI for strigi that kde has does
[03:58] <stdin> Depends: libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.6), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.2-20070516), libqt4-core (>= 4.3.0), libqt4-gui (>= 4.3.0), libsearchclient0, libstdc++6 (>= 4.2-20070516), libstreamanalyzer0, libstreams0, libstrigihtmlgui0, libstrigiqtdbusclient0, libxml2 (>= 2.6.29), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-1), strigi-daemon (lots of Qt there)
[04:00] <pvandewyngaerde> stdin: ok i got confused with strigicmd
[04:11] <IdleOne> what is the Tracker search tool used for exactly?
[04:12] <IdleOne> I assume searching but it doesnt seem to find anything
[04:15] <pvandewyngaerde> indexing
[04:29] <Q-FUNK> has the vga console been disabled staritng with gutsy kernels?
[04:34] <Q-FUNK> what is the proper way of reporting a bug in gutsy?  LP refuses to allow me to file a bug on the source package
[04:44] <auTONYmous> quit
[04:55] <jrib> Q-FUNK: what package?
[04:56] <AnRkey> are there any problems with todays cd image build?
[04:56] <AnRkey>  mine is hanging on 6$
[04:56] <AnRkey> 6%
[04:57] <Q-FUNK> jrib: typos r us.  bug reported.  restricted modules 2.6.22 has unknown symbols on madwifi.
[05:41] <finalbeta> !info eog
[05:41] <ubotu> eog: Eye of Gnome graphics viewer program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.19.4-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 979 kB, installed size 4760 kB
[05:43] <finalbeta> Could someone do me a favour, and check what files eog (eye of gnome installed on his system)
[05:43] <finalbeta> the install killed the package manager for me, and I need to figure some things out for the bug report.
[05:44] <assasukasse> ragazzi qualcuno ha fatto vedere ad ubuntu un pocketpc
[05:44] <assasukasse> il mio non lo vede nemmeno morto
[05:44] <Jolted> Hey has anyone gotten a live build of Gusty that actually starts and connects without completely freezing or not connecting to the network interface
[05:47] <finalbeta> dinner
[06:29] <dennda> For general notice: A user (not me!) reports that today's update of initscripts, sysv-rc and sysvutils broke his system. I do not yet run gutsy. I just wanted to make you aware of it. (I do not even know whether or not this is true. I just read his forums post.)
[06:32] <Hobbsee> dennda: did the bug report have console output, etc, or just that info?
[06:36] <dennda> Hobbsee: unfortunately it had just that info
[06:37] <Hobbsee> dennda: nowhere near enough info to investigate that, i'm afraid
[06:38] <dennda> Hobbsee: he posted in the german forum. but if he is right you will be confronted by more bugreports ;)
[06:39] <Hobbsee> well, bugs belong on the bugtracker, not on forums, and only whne they have enough information to even start looking at the problem.  preferably enough info to solve the problem.
[06:39] <Hobbsee> then again, launchpad is all english
[06:40] <dennda> Hobbsee: I know that, but "unfortunately" I am not the one who has had that problem
[06:40] <Hobbsee> true :)
[06:41] <dennda> ok so people you heared him! upgrade now and tell us what happens :)
[06:41] <finalbeta> !paste
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[06:42] <finalbeta> Anyone who would have an idea on where to search a solution to this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32798/ Glipper crashes at start.
[06:43] <finalbeta> It's reported, but really it's my system, works on other PC's, and this one has been upgrading several ubuntu versions.
[06:43] <Hobbsee> finalbeta: now much ram do you have?
[06:43] <finalbeta> 1.5GB
[06:43] <finalbeta> more then enough free
[06:45] <Hobbsee> finalbeta: if my maths is right, it was looking for 1.8 gb free or so
[06:45] <Hobbsee> as in, to allocate that
[06:45] <finalbeta> Ohw, you are right. I'll buy some extra ram then.
[06:46] <finalbeta> Just kidding :P It's probably something I've done somewhere some day some time. Strange
[06:50] <finalbeta> Hobbsee: thanks though.
[06:50] <finalbeta> Good night
[06:56] <elmargol> has gutsy a new compression for .deb? somehow I'm downloading faster than my connection is
[06:57] <Happu> elmargol some bug maybe
[06:57] <finalbeta> elmargol: there was talk about 7zip, but it's not implemented as far as I know.
[06:58] <rjek> And in any case, apt etc report bytes, not shannons, in download rates.
[06:58] <rjek> So the compression scheme is irrelevant to the speed it displays.
[06:58] <elmargol> I'm downloading 5 times faster than my connection is
[06:58] <rjek> Certainly this is the case for packages themselves.  Package lists may differ, as they're dealt with differently.
[06:59] <rjek> The other possibility is that you've got the file partially cached somewhere.
[07:03] <pace_t_zulu> hey is the current snapshot of the repos  good?
[07:03] <pace_t_zulu> is anyone here?
[07:04] <Pici> What do you mean by 'is it good'?
[07:04] <pace_t_zulu> is there breakage at the moment?
[07:05] <Pici> Seems good to me
[07:05] <pace_t_zulu> good enough for me Pici
[07:06] <pace_t_zulu> we need to get to improve the tray icon for software update notification
[07:06] <pace_t_zulu> at higher resolutions it stretches
[07:08] <xtknight> breakage for me
[07:09] <xtknight> daily-live doesn't start in vmware.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade has a problem on the last few packages, like fuse utils gcc gdb and coreutils
[07:09] <xtknight> nevermind it's because my VM's memory wasn't big enough ;)
[07:09] <xtknight> but xorg still failed at bootup
[07:14] <finalbeta> Any idea where /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf moved to? The gdm folder no longer exists on my Gusty.
[07:14] <xtknight> isn't it in /etc/gdm/?
[07:15] <finalbeta> Ohw, it is, I shouldn't follow this guide to closely :P Thanks
[07:25] <xtknight> how do i enable vmi/paravirt-ops support in gutsy?
[07:39] <Ben_Cs> hello
[07:40] <Ben_Cs> is Gutsy tribe 3 stable enough
[07:40] <Ben_Cs> ?
[07:40] <xtknight> depends on what you define as "enough"
[07:40] <opop> stable enough for what?
[07:40] <xtknight> i wouldn't be using it on systems i need
[07:40] <xtknight> i wouldn't use it until beta on production systems (and most people wouldnt even do that)
[07:40] <Ben_Cs> stable enough = no fatal errors
[07:40] <opop> then you should be ine
[07:41] <xtknight> programs were crashing left and right on the 64 tribe 3 when i tried it
[07:41] <xtknight> but a lot of people seem to have good luck
[07:45] <Ben_Cs> ok
[09:10] <finalbeta> I've upgraded a Fiesty install to Gutsy, how do I get VMWare server running again? After running the config script I get the error vmnet isn't loaded, but this kernel module doesn't exist.
[09:11] <finalbeta> I guess I probably have to download and install it over the old one.
[09:50] <kiba> hello
[09:50] <hwilde> !hi
[09:50] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu+1!
[09:51] <finalbeta> !paste
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[09:52] <finalbeta> My External USB disk doesn't get recognised, can't even see the drive in gparted : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32834/
[09:52] <finalbeta> any idea's?
[09:53] <hwilde> sudo fdisk -l
[09:59] <variant> finalbeta: what is the make of the usb disk?
[09:59] <variant> lshm should tell yuu
[09:59] <variant> lshw i mean
[09:59] <variant> or lsusb
[10:05] <finalbeta> It wont even spin up anymore, I think it might be the enclosure :p
[10:05] <variant> finalbeta: probably
[10:05] <variant> finalbeta: does it not create the device node?
[10:05] <variant> nm
[10:05] <variant> from the ouptut i see that it does
[10:05] <finalbeta> at this moment, it's Literally dead
[10:05] <finalbeta> bbl , thnx
[10:05] <variant> finalbeta: what does fdisk /dev/sdg say?
[10:05] <variant> ok
[10:05] <hwilde> hey is it really necessary to have brltty enabled by default?  it takes over some serial inputs that it shouldnt
[10:15] <variant> hwilde: good question.. but for a blind person it is essential, how else would they enable it if it didn't work out of the box?
[10:15] <finalbeta> Someone spoke to me?
[10:21] <finalbeta> I forgot that when I press the shutdown button in gnome in gutsy that it simply freezes all input devices.
[10:21] <finalbeta> The enclosure doesn't even spin up devices anymore. The power adaptor is still working, the usb ports still work, the cables are fine. so I'm left buying a new enclosure.
[10:21] <hwilde> I guess i'd like to see that
[10:21] <hwilde> I was trying to hookup something and brltty kept killing it - I was surprised to see that enabled by default
[11:39] <sn0n> Hello, anyone else having problems with media ? (USB Sticks, CD/DVD burners)
[12:12] <Xsss4hell> Hi
[12:12] <Xsss4hell> Uboto told me to come here
[12:12] <Xsss4hell> Howto install GUTSY TRIBE 3 from USB-Stick to HD? Is it the same as in the tutrial, or simpler?
[12:13] <Xsss4hell> Currently I'm running XP
[12:15] <Xsss4hell> please help, I just want to install it quickly from usb to hd
[12:16] <jmg> that's not a supported installation vector
[12:17] <Xsss4hell> I don't understand what you said.huuuh?
[12:17] <jmg> follow the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick YMMV
[12:17] <jmg> Tribe is not guaranteed to work that way
[12:18] <Xsss4hell> You've nearly fixed a bug with ECC RAM and P4 Motherboards with DUAL-Channel Ram
[12:18] <Xsss4hell> but it's still there
[12:18] <jmg> who is you?
[12:18] <jmg> which bug? please link the bug report
[12:19] <jmg> try booting with acpi=off
[12:20] <Xsss4hell> I don't have the link, but many people having ASUS- P4C-800E-DELUXE motherboards with enabled ECC have complained about beeping ubuntu in feisty and gutsy. the beeping doesn't stop in feisty, but in gutsy the motherboards beeps randomly. So it is really annoying
[12:22] <jmg> is there an open bug?
[12:22] <jmg> I have a p4p-800 and it has to be booted with acpi=off
[12:22] <jmg> what's really annoying is people who complain about bugs but dont do the paperwork. (hint)
[12:25] <Xsss4hell> you need to have a p4c-800E-deluxe, the bug is only reported from this motherboard types as I know, dude I read the paperworks but don't remember the links, sorry
[12:26] <Xsss4hell> because the p4c-800-e has no ecc only the p4c-800E-deluxe has ecc with dualchannel ddr3200 support
[12:28] <jmg> can you find it in http://bugs.launchpad.net, i see no bugs specific to the p4c800-e