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[06:20] <mdz> agoliveira: good day
[06:20] <agoliveira> mdz: Good day, Matt.
[06:20] <mdz> agoliveira: thanks for getting the daily build sorted
[06:20] <mdz> I tried it out on the Q1 ultra today
[06:20] <agoliveira> My pleasure.
[06:20] <mdz> one can't get very far with it, though
[06:21] <agoliveira> Geez... :(
[06:21] <mdz> there's no way to launch applications, and while it provides instructions for installing the flash plugin, they rely on a terminal
[06:21] <mdz> and I see no way to launch a terminal
[06:21] <mdz> is it working better than that for you?
[06:22] <agoliveira> I should be able to look more closely in the device. Today Sulamita asked for some information so I guess my Q1 should be arriving soon. In the chroot it works better but I have to mnanually install the flash plugin too.
[06:22] <agoliveira> It is in my TODO to talk about those issues with Rusty today.
[06:26] <mdz> agoliveira: you are building the chroot locally, yes?
[06:26] <mdz> agoliveira: have you tried using the autobuilt image?
[06:26] <agoliveira> mdz: Yes, I am.
[06:26] <agoliveira> No.
[06:27] <agoliveira> But should be no differente but the kernel. But I can give it a sot, of course.
[06:27] <mdz> agoliveira: ok, I really need for you to use that as the basis for your testing, because that is what the rest of the world sees.  if it works well in your chroot, but it doesn't work in the build, then it's not working yet
[06:27] <agoliveira> mdz: Understood.
[06:27] <mdz> it should be possible to get it working in an emulator.  we've been waiting too long for the Q1 and are short on time
[06:27] <mdz> agoliveira: is there anything I can do to help you to get a device more quickly?
[06:28] <agoliveira> mdz: No problem, I'll try that.
[06:28] <mdz> I would be happy to buy you one if you could source it locally
[06:28] <agoliveira> mdz: I wish but as far as I know, this is internal to Intell and now to customs.
[06:28] <mdz> agoliveira: is it possible to order one online and have it shipped to Brazil from elsewhere?
[06:29] <agoliveira> mdz: I guess so but I also believe that would be almost the same with customs and all.
[06:29] <agoliveira> Believe me. Customs here a a real PITA.
[06:30] <mdz> if you fly to London, I will give you one to take back with you :-/
[06:30] <agoliveira> Even small stuff like DVDs I buy from Amazon, for instance, sometimes stays there 2, 3 weeks.
[06:30] <agoliveira> mdz: I should have taken my chances last time...
[06:34] <agoliveira> Unfortunately, I tought that for a company like Intel should be easier to overcome this kind of problem.
[06:36] <agoliveira> mdz: BTW: I have a question. Did you have any success with thaty first batch of resumes Jo sent?
[06:38] <mdz> agoliveira: this is a public channel
[06:50] <agoliveira> rusty_: Hi Rusty. Can you give me an update on how the images are running on the Q1 device? Unfurtunately, I'm still wating for mine so I can't try myself.
[06:50] <rusty_> what kind of update?
[06:51] <agoliveira> I mean, are they running ok, is there any outstanding problem?
[06:51] <agoliveira> I'm talking about the images we are creating daily.
[06:51] <rusty_> as of Friday the answer was yes, and i need to run a clean test this morning to see if anything has popped up
[06:51] <rusty_> sorry
[06:52] <rusty_> just realized what you meant.... i gave up attempting to download the image last friday after it failed mid-way through on a couple of attempts
[06:52] <rusty_> let me try again with the latest image out of the oven
[06:52] <agoliveira> No problem. What image are you using exactly.
[06:52] <agoliveira> ?
[06:53] <rusty_> the full q1
[06:53] <rusty_> what was that URL again?
[06:53] <agoliveira> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/mccaslin_samsungq1ultrafull/20070806/mccaslin_samsungq1ultrafull_install-usb.img
[06:53] <agoliveira> That one?
[06:53] <rusty_> thx
[06:55] <agoliveira> I'm asking because Matt have being finding some strange problems like, can't start any application and can't install the flash plugin as it relies on a terminal but he can't find a way to lauch one.
[06:58] <rusty_> do you know which fset the build is installing? 
[06:59] <agoliveira> rusty_: Not from the top of my head, I have to check the script
[07:00] <agoliveira> PLATFORMS=( mccaslin menlow )
[07:00] <agoliveira> TARGETS_mccaslin=( samsungq1ultracore samsungq1ultrafull )
[07:00] <agoliveira> FSETS_mccaslin_samsungq1ultrafull=( samsung-full-mobile-stack )
[07:00] <agoliveira> FSETS_mccaslin_samsungq1ultracore=( samsung-q1-ultra-config )
[07:00] <agoliveira> TARGETS_menlow=( core full )
[07:00] <agoliveira> FSETS_mccaslin_core=( samsung-full-mobile-stack )
[07:00] <agoliveira> FSETS_mccaslin_full=( samsung-q1-ultra-config )
[07:01] <agoliveira> rusty_: That's what's on the script.
[07:02] <agoliveira> BRB -> 10 min.
[07:02] <rusty_> if we installed the samsung-full-mobile-stack-proprietary then the flash plug-in would be installed... but maybe that's an issue
[07:13] <agoliveira> rusty_: Yeah, I don't think that we can do that. What about not being able to open the terminal and install flash yourself?
[07:18] <stgraber> agoliveira: vmnet issue ?
[07:19] <agoliveira> stgreber: yes - /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/userif.c: In function VNetCopyDatagramToUser:
[07:19] <agoliveira> I'm checking out.
[07:21] <stgraber> agoliveira: http://npw.net/~phbaer/vmnet.tar I used this one an hour ago and it works fine
[07:22] <agoliveira> stgraber: I'll try, thanks
[07:23] <agoliveira> stgraber: Yep. It seems to do the trick. Thanks.
[07:24] <stgraber> np, it'd be really good if vmware could provide those patches themselves :)
[07:26] <rusty_> agoliveira, you should be able to open a terminal via the drop down menu in the upper left corner, but let me what what happens in this image.... it's still downloading
[07:27] <agoliveira> rusty_: It worked with me like this when I built the image locally. I'll also try the image here.
[07:48] <agoliveira> rusty_: Those images we're being creating are for USB boot right?
[07:48] <rusty_> agoliveira, yes, you have to dd it to the device
[07:48] <rusty_> BTW, still downloading my image
[07:49] <agoliveira> rusty_: Yes, I did that and just discovered that vmware can't boot from USB :(
[08:48] <rusty_> agoliveira, i'm running the UME image now
[08:48] <agoliveira> rusty_: In the Q1 itself? How's going?
[08:48] <rusty_> pretty crappy
[08:48] <agoliveira> Ouch... :(
[08:49] <rusty_> i'm not sure what's happening here... but it's pretty messed up 
[08:49] <agoliveira> Like...?
[08:50] <rusty_> agoliveira, all kinds of things.... let me get a handle on this
[08:50] <agoliveira> rusty_: Sure
[08:51] <rusty_> agoliveira, ok, i see what's happening.... you guys are removing the apt configuration entry for moblin, and there are various packages that need new versions uploaded to gutsy
[08:52] <rusty_> agoliveira, so lots of little things all over the place
[08:52] <agoliveira> rusty_: Are we?
[08:53] <agoliveira> rusty_: Ok so let fix that. Are the apt configurations you're talking about into the fsets?
[08:53] <rusty_> agoliveira, yes... you can see this by noticing that the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/build.list is missing
[08:54] <rusty_> agoliveira, well... i bet that Tolleff is doing this on purpose
[08:54] <rusty_> so the proper way to fix this is to find what packages need newer versions uploaded
[08:54] <agoliveira> rusty_: Well, I can understand that but it's a nice way to get things broken...
[08:55] <rusty_> agoliveira, however you want to proceed... do you have the ability to adjust the image creation script?
[08:55] <rusty_> or... maybe this is in the moblin-image-creator that was pushed into gutsy
[08:56] <rusty_> i never tried using it
[08:56] <rusty_> agoliveira, i have to go
[08:56] <agoliveira> No, I don't. But I can ask someone
[08:56] <rusty_> i bet it's a change in the image-creator checked into gutsy
[08:56] <rusty_> ok, be back in a couple of hours
[08:56] <agoliveira> rusty_: I'll be leaving in 1 hour or so but email me and I'll see that asap.
[08:59] <agoliveira> seb128: Hi. You are just the guy I wanted to talk to :)
[08:59] <seb128> hey agoliveira
[09:00] <agoliveira> seb128: I wonder if you can help. Do you have access to whatever the script that creates the mobile images (run-moblin-image-creator) is?
[09:01] <seb128> better to ask cjwatson, I don't know where those scripts are and what they are doing
[09:01] <agoliveira> seb128: Sure. Thanks anyway.
[09:01] <seb128> no problem