[01:39] <cottima> LaserJock I had to run out for a longer time than I thought.  Thank you for the url!
[01:41] <LaserJock> cottima: np
[03:14] <bddebian> Heya
[04:54] <blazemonger> what kind of software does edubuntu come with? any geometry and trig tuturial software?
[04:55] <LaserJock> it comes with a variety of educational software (in addition to the regular Ubuntu apps_
[04:55] <blazemonger> if it has math tutorial software then i am downloading it
[04:56] <LaserJock> blazemonger: kig is a geometry program, I don't know about tutorial
[04:56] <blazemonger> i asked the person that runs the computers at the library and asked 'if there is any educational software you would want on the computer systems what would you want?" the lady said 'some phonix software"
[04:57] <LaserJock> hmm
[04:57] <LaserJock> there are some basics I think
[04:57] <blazemonger> any programming tutorials?
[04:58] <LaserJock> there is actually one being developed this summer
[04:58] <LaserJock> but a Google Summer of Code student
[04:58] <blazemonger> interesting
[04:58] <LaserJock> a Python learning application
[04:58] <blazemonger> you're into lasers?
[04:58] <blazemonger> i want to learn assembly language on the x86
[04:59] <LaserJock> blazemonger: yes, I use lasers every day in my research
[04:59] <blazemonger> interesting..
[05:00] <blazemonger> my friend that does lasershows at raves told me that there i could make some bank if i develop software that controls lasers
[05:00] <blazemonger> LaserJock:i know this one persont hat has a handheld 450mw handheld laser
[05:01] <blazemonger> it's the most alien thingi ve ever seen and it is neat
[05:01] <LaserJock> heh
[05:01] <LaserJock> my laser puts out GigaWatt pulses
[05:01] <blazemonger> holy #(^&^
[05:02] <LaserJock> although it's not at the right wavelength to do anything "fun"
[05:02] <blazemonger> LaserJock: i have respect for ANYONE who supports educational software
[05:02] <blazemonger> it just doesn't seem like there's enough of it
[05:02] <LaserJock> but it'll blow your eye out if look straight into it :(
[05:02] <LaserJock> yes, very true
[05:02] <LaserJock> it's difficult to get educational minded people to get apps written and polished up
[05:02] <blazemonger> want to know my favorite internet resource? MIT's Open Courseware
[05:03] <blazemonger> it's like going to college for free
[05:03] <LaserJock> mhm
[05:04] <blazemonger> what window manager does edubuntu use?
[05:04] <LaserJock> Gnome
[05:04] <blazemonger> one of my friends used to be a total windows freak but now that I've showed him ubuntu and edubuntu he totally despises microsoft
[05:05] <blazemonger> i gave him a copy of ubuntu and he loves it.
[05:06] <blazemonger> i have this old dell notebook and ubuntu works wonders ..
[05:07] <LaserJock> blazemonger: cool
[05:11] <jsgotangco> fire away the "L-A-Z-E-R"
[05:12] <LaserJock> heh
[05:12] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: back home?
[05:13] <jsgotangco> yeah thank goodness
[05:13] <jsgotangco> just dead tired with the trips
[05:13] <jsgotangco> managed to write one blog entry of hanoi
[05:14] <jsgotangco> will probably finish up bangkok entry by tonight
[05:14] <LaserJock> cool
[05:14] <LaserJock> do you find it easy traveling to other countries in asia?
[07:03] <shirish> guys is there a list somewhere, where one can see what educational/edu-gaming packages available other from the Live CD ?
[07:03] <Burgundavia> shirish: you can check the seeds for a full list
[07:05] <shirish> Burgundavia:  what is seed? and how do I check seeds?
[07:05] <shirish> ubotu seeds
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seeds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <Burgundavia> a seed is a list that creates the cds
[07:05] <shirish> seed = repository or something different?
[07:05] <Burgundavia> no, seed is a list of packages that end up on the cd
[07:07] <shirish> Burgundavia: I don't have the live CD of edubuntu atm, what I am doing now is installing edubuntu-desktop on top of my ubuntu-desktop, was wanting to see/know if there was some stuff I can subscribe to know of any new packages/educational-based which one can play around with/install?
[07:08] <Burgundavia> edubuntu desktop will get you the same thing as is on a live cd
[07:08] <LaserJock> shirish: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.feisty
[07:08] <shirish> Burgundavia: right, that is what I was counting now
[07:08] <LaserJock> well
[07:08] <LaserJock> that's not true as of Feisty
[07:08] <Burgundavia> hey LaserJock
[07:09] <shirish> LaserJock: what about 7.10?
[07:09] <LaserJock> shirish: are you on gutsy or feisty?
[07:09] <shirish> LaserJock: actually on gutsy :)
[07:09] <LaserJock> shirish: then you're in luck ;-)
[07:09] <shirish> I wanted to do this long time back, but was held back due to a bug which I had reported, got fixed just yesterday
[07:10] <shirish> the human-theme not being compatible with edubuntu
[07:10] <LaserJock> if you get edubuntu-desktop and then look for edubuntu-addon packages you can get all the edu stuf
[07:10] <LaserJock> shirish: yes, I fixed that today
[07:10] <LaserJock> shirish: I didn't even see your bug, I just ran into it today
[07:10] <LaserJock> so I'm glad I was actually able to fix it for somebody else :-)
[07:11] <shirish> LaserJock: oh it was you, I saw your reply on the bug, it was outstanding for almost a month I guess, otherwise i would have been able to assist edubuntu perhaps a little earlier in the development cycle, as far as testing goes
[07:11] <shirish> oh well
[07:12] <LaserJock> yeah, it just got overlooked
[07:12] <shirish> I didn't know whom to approach, but glad it got fixed, finally :)
[07:14] <sbalneav> LaserJock: Hey, dude!  How do I close bugs under the bugsquad stuff?
[07:15] <shirish> LaserJock: I am looking at  https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.gutsy and while it gives me for e.g. what Martin Pitt did last, it doesn't tell me anything about list of packages or do I need to look somewhere else also ?
[07:15] <LaserJock> shirish: click on browse code
[07:16] <nixternal> yo yo homies
[07:16] <LaserJock> shirish: then click on files up top
[07:16] <LaserJock> hi nixternal
[07:16] <LaserJock> sbalneav: hmm, you can't do it yourself?
[07:17] <sbalneav> Can't SEEM to.
[07:17] <shirish> LaserJock: cool, btw can anybody tell what is ship-addon, are the guys thinking of having an add-on cd?
[07:17] <LaserJock> heh
[07:17] <LaserJock> we already are
[07:18] <LaserJock> Edubuntu Feisty is on 2 CDs
[07:18] <LaserJock> sbalneav: what bug?
[07:18] <shirish> LaserJock: didn't know about that, I saw an edubuntu live CD at a friend's place, I guess it was edubuntu live+server CD or is that a different product?
[07:19] <LaserJock> it's different
[07:19] <LaserJock> the Live CD is more for demo'ing
[07:19] <shirish> LaserJock:  ok cool
[07:19] <LaserJock> it shows of some of the edu apps, etc.
[07:19] <sbalneav> #67383
[07:19] <shirish> right, right
[07:19] <LaserJock> but the Classroom Server and Classroom Server Addon are the main Edubuntu CDs
[07:19] <sbalneav> It's been there for a dog's age, no activity, and just the one guy reported it, and never followed up.
[07:19] <LaserJock> the Feisty Dekstop CD is even quite broken, if you install from it the edu apps don't get installed
[07:20] <LaserJock> shirish: the Classroom Sever Addon CD will work on Ubuntu too
[07:20] <shirish> LaserJock: ok cool
[07:21] <shirish> LaserJock: ok so lemme understand it, the Edubuntu server CD is just a demoing thing
[07:21] <LaserJock> no
[07:21] <LaserJock> the Desktop CD
[07:21] <LaserJock> which is a LiveCD
[07:21] <shirish> LaserJock: ok and this is a single CD, right?
[07:21] <LaserJock> yes
[07:21] <shirish> ok cool
[07:21] <LaserJock> as it is a LiveCD
[07:21] <shirish> ok cool
[07:22] <LaserJock> it doesn't have LTSP and all the edu apps we have
[07:22] <shirish> and we have a seperate Edubuntu server and Edubuntu server add-on CD
[07:22] <LaserJock> but it's good for showing it off and what it looks like
[07:22] <shirish> understood that point
[07:22] <LaserJock> the Edubuntu Classroom Server CD can be used to install a LTSP Server, Workstation (regular install), and command line (like Ubuntu Server)
[07:23] <LaserJock> but since we don't have enough room
[07:23] <LaserJock> the Edubuntu Classroom Server Addon CD has most of the educational apps
[07:23] <LaserJock> plus additional lang packs
[07:23] <LaserJock> and some other "goodies"
[07:23] <shirish> aha, ok cool
[07:25] <shirish> LaserJock: and does the repository follow the same notation  like main, restricted, universe, multiverse and commercial or no?
[07:25] <LaserJock> shirish: they *are* the same repos
[07:26] <LaserJock> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu *all* come from the same repos
[07:26] <shirish> LaserJock: right, I was making sure
[07:27] <LaserJock> sbalneav: so when you click on the little arrow to edit it it doesn't let you?
[07:27] <shirish> LaserJock: to install or pull from the repos, what meta-package do I need to pull so all the stuff which is on edubuntu-server add-on cd comes?
[07:28] <LaserJock> look for edubuntu-addon
[07:28] <shirish> cool, thanx
[07:28] <sbalneav> LaserJock: Under status, I don't have a "close" option.
[07:28] <LaserJock> shirish: I just made those meta packages
[07:29] <shirish> LaserJock: lol, cool cool :)
[07:29] <LaserJock> sbalneav: there should be "Fixed Released"
[07:29] <sbalneav> There is.
[07:29] <sbalneav> Is that "closed"?
[07:29] <shirish> LaserJock: so it actually means I did stuff on the right time :)
[07:30] <sbalneav> I haven't released any fix tho' :)
[07:30] <LaserJock> sbalneav: yes, Fix Released and Invalid are closing statues
[07:30] <LaserJock> shirish: I guess so ;-)
[07:30] <LaserJock> sbalneav: did the bug just go away? or is there a fix coming?
[07:30] <shirish> I'm using xfce as my desktop, so would it be a good idea to test them about how the packages behave under xfce, they both share the gtk heritage though so there shouldn't be any huge differences, what do you think?
[07:31] <LaserJock> shirish: yes, especially since a fair amount of Edubuntu users use xfce
[07:31] <sbalneav> The bug was never confirmed.  We tried to duplicate it, but it's never ever shown itself, and the original poster's never commented on it.
[07:31] <LaserJock> shirish: you'll notice we have a edubuntu-addon-light metapackage
[07:31] <LaserJock> shirish: that installs xfce4
[07:32] <LaserJock> sbalneav: ok, so Invalid sounds good
[07:32] <LaserJock> sbalneav: and you'll probably want to do that for both tasks if it's really gone
[07:32] <shirish> LaserJock: thats cool to know :)
[07:33] <LaserJock> we also have a new edubuntu-desktop-kde package for Kubuntu users
[07:33] <shirish> LaserJock: I do have both WM's i nstalled though but use xfce more than GNOME, so it would be good to do edubuntu-adoon first perhaps & then edubuntu-addon-light
[07:34] <shirish> just to make sure there aren't any packages/dependencies left to download perhaps?
[07:34] <LaserJock> shirish: well, you won't need edubuntu-addon-light if you've already got xfce
[07:34] <LaserJock> shirish: as all it does is install xfce4
[07:34] <shirish> LaserJock: ah cool, then just need the edubuntu-addon, makes it easier for me :)
[07:35] <LaserJock> just try the edu apps in both xfce and gnome
[07:35] <LaserJock> that'd  be a big help
[07:35] <shirish> LaserJock: will do :)
[07:36] <shirish> LaserJock: although I do have a bug of things happening in GNOME, I get an xsession-errors file. if somebody can help me diagnose that and/or fix that would do testing in GNOME also
[07:37] <shirish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129315
[07:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129315 in gdm "GNOME-desktop does not lemme log in. " [Medium,Incomplete] 
[07:37] <shirish> I thought it was due to me installing a font which uses xkb but talking to the developer, it isn't due to that
[07:40] <LaserJock> sbalneav: did you close that bug?
[07:40] <sbalneav> not yet.
[07:40] <sbalneav> one sec
[07:41] <sbalneav> 15 convos going on at once :)
[07:42] <sbalneav> ah, yeah, closed
[07:42] <sbalneav> ok
[07:42] <sbalneav> thx
[07:44] <shirish> LaserJock: what is latex & why is it so big on edubuntu, I see it is spread quite wide in edubuntu in various packages
[07:45] <shirish> ubotu latex
[07:45] <ubotu> tex is a language for describing a document, commonly used especially for scientific publishing. Information and instructions for installing TeX and other related packages can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX
[07:45] <shirish> LaserJock: latex is something like xml ?
[07:45] <LaserJock> shirish: it's a typesetting language that is very common in academia and the sciences
[07:45] <LaserJock> well, not exactly
[07:46] <LaserJock> it's pretty complicated, and very powerful
[07:46] <LaserJock> and also very huge
[07:46] <shirish> cool, cool
[07:48] <LaserJock> shirish: you can google around for it if you want to see some examples
[07:49] <shirish> LaserJock: doing that actually :P
[07:49] <LaserJock> it can be very nice for college students in math or science because it's very good at typesetting equations
[07:53] <sbalneav> TeX and LaTeX are awesome.
[07:54] <sbalneav> Still got my "Intro to LaTeX" manual by Leslie Lamport.
[07:54] <sbalneav> Wrote ALL my University papers in it.
[08:22] <encompass> morning sbalneav
[08:22] <encompass> I have yet to learn latex
[08:48] <encompass> Well python won't answer my question... I will try here... I am using restricted python and when running code with it, I get an expected error in the executing... I want to get that output into a variable and print that to a widget on the screen.  How do I best catch that error and not all the extra stuff that restricted python gives.  Take a look here for the error example. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32882/
[09:08] <zsh> good morning
[09:14] <zsh> how can I debug my LTSP-system, each client freezes 2 times, each day
[09:15] <zsh> it is a feisty system
[09:29] <zsh> could it be, that the nbd-server causes the freeze?
[09:30] <zsh> how can I deaktivate it?
[11:39] <zsh> hi
[11:41] <zsh> a few days ago, I saw a howto to use LTSP without NFS in gutsy, but today I can not find it, can someone help me
[11:43] <highvoltage> zsh: if I understand correctly, the latest gutsy LTSP will use NBD by default
[11:44] <stgraber> zsh: Gutsy does by default no longer uses NFS
[11:44] <stgraber> zsh: the thin client FS is now a squashfs image exported by nbdserver
[11:44] <stgraber> so swap and FS are now using nbdserver and NFS isn't used anymore
[11:45] <zsh> ok, I will try this
[11:46] <stgraber> you may want to wait till Tribe-4 is release (Thursday) so you'll have a tested gutsy CD to play with
[11:47] <zsh> ok, good idea
[11:47] <zsh> I will wait
[11:48] <zsh> with ltsp feisty I have quite a lot freezes on the thinclients, is this a known problem?
[11:49] <stgraber> ogra, highvoltage: Can one of you two update the topic, URL has changed to iso.qa.stgraber.org and we are going to test Tribe-4 :)
[11:49] <ogra> right
[11:49] <stgraber> zsh: what kind of freeze, network related (only the X session) or the whole thin client
[11:49] <stgraber> zsh: you can test by trying to switch to tty1
[11:50] <zsh> complete freeze
[11:52] <ogra> zsh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWithoutNFS
[11:52] <zsh> thx
[11:53] <zsh> oh, I only looked at wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <highvoltage> ogra: how has ltsp over nbd worked so far? any problems or known issues?
[11:53] <ogra> zsh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP has a bunch more
[11:54] <ogra> highvoltage, round robin failover setups wont work with nbd
[11:54] <ogra> (i.e. a DNS round robin for the app server)
[11:54] <highvoltage> ah.
[11:54] <ogra> and you need to rebuild the squashfs image with ltsp-update-image after you made changes to the chroot
[11:55] <ogra> beyond that there are no drwabacks or known issues yet
[11:55] <ogra> using it every day here and sbalneav as well afaik
[11:55] <highvoltage> the ltsp-update-image is completely reasonable, imho
[11:55] <ogra> well, it takes a while (about 10 min)
[11:55] <ogra> so if you developp it gets annoying over time :)
[11:56] <highvoltage> heh, I can imagine
[11:56] <ogra> indeed, if sou dont developp anything and can adjust everything through lts.conf there is no need at all for it
[11:57] <highvoltage> could you ever figure out why NFS was so slow?
[11:57] <ogra> the big thing with the squashfs image is that you could also use it locally (like a modified liveCD)
[11:57] <ogra> nope
[11:57] <ogra> and i was tired of it
[11:58] <ogra> thats what drove me to finally make the step i wanted to do eternally already :)
[11:58] <highvoltage> that's what I like about the squashfs method too- it's nice for large deployments with automated ubiquity.
[11:59] <highvoltage> there's been nfs bugs that gave me big pains in the past, that I couldn't get sorted out. I'm glad that the LTSP world doesn't need it anymore.
[11:59] <zsh> and perhaps it solves my freeze-problems
[12:00] <ogra> zsh, freezes are likely ram or video related
[12:00] <ogra> how much ram do your clients have ?
[12:00] <zsh> 128mb
[12:00] <ogra> thats plenty
[12:01] <zsh> vxl thinclients, if somebody knows them
[12:01] <zsh> via systems
[12:35] <zsh> how can I use the "switch host" feature
[12:35] <zsh> I have installed gutsy ltsp now
[12:35] <ogra> not at all yet :)
[12:35] <zsh> it would be nice if I could redirect to my feisty setup
[12:35] <zsh> ok :(
[12:35] <ogra> the code was merged yesterday only and the archive is in freeeze for the tribe4 CD
[12:36] <ogra> it will go in after the tribe release
[12:36] <zsh> hmm, ok
[12:36] <zsh> is a dirty hack available?
[12:37] <ogra> nope
[12:37] <ogra> the new ldm doesnt allow dirty hacks anymore ...
[12:38] <ogra> thats the drawback C code has vs python
[12:50] <zsh> ok
[12:51] <ogra> beyond that the ssh key problem isnt solved aet afaik
[12:51] <ogra> (you need avalid ssh key for every server in the list installed on the client)
[12:54] <zsh> hmm, I cannot login with ldm
[12:54] <ogra> any error
[12:54] <ogra> ?
[12:55] <zsh> after entering the password, the password file is still visible and following is displayed "verifying password, please wait..."
[12:56] <ogra> hmm
[12:56] <ogra> anything in /var/log/auth.log ?
[12:56] <zsh> oh, now I have a black screen
[12:56] <zsh> I will have a look at the logs
[12:57] <ogra> also look in ~/.xsession-errors of that user
[12:57] <zsh> nothing in auth.log
[12:58] <zsh> no .xsession-errors file
[12:58] <zsh> I never loged in with the user
[01:00] <ogra> can that user log in on the server directly ?
[01:01] <zsh> with ssh?
[01:01] <ogra> in any way :)
[01:01] <ogra> just check the user works so you can rule out any basic failure with the account
[01:06] <zsh> ssh works
[01:06] <ogra> add:
[01:06] <ogra> SCREEN_02=shell
[01:06] <ogra> and
[01:06] <ogra> SCREEN_07=ldm
[01:07] <ogra> to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
[01:07] <ogra> in a default section
[01:07] <ogra> then you will have a console on the second terminal on the client and can check /var/log/ldm.log there
[01:08] <zsh> ok
[01:10] <zsh> should I configure something to use /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf ?
[01:12] <zsh> ok, I have, I guess a dhcp option
[01:13] <ogra> no
[01:13] <ogra> its used by default in gutsy
[01:13] <ogra> (if it exists and is in the right format indeed)
[01:14] <zsh> ahh, I forgot "[default] "
[01:19] <zsh> hmm, does not work
[01:19] <ogra> but you are running gutsy all over ?
[01:19] <zsh> yes
[01:20] <zsh> I have a lts.conf in the chroot
[01:20] <zsh> should I delete it and rebuild the image
[01:20] <ogra> that gets overwroitten by initramfs if it can get one via tftp
[01:20] <ogra> no, no need to
[01:20] <zsh> or I will write the new options in this file
[01:21] <ogra> indeed you could do that, but that then requires an image rebuild
[01:21] <zsh> the dhcpd runnes not on this box
[01:21] <zsh> ok
[01:23] <ogra> hmm
[01:24] <ogra> i havent chefcked the lts.conf/tftp code against foreign servers yet, that might be it ...
[01:25] <zsh> the dhcpd runs on debian etch
[01:27] <ogra> well, that shouldnt break
[01:27] <ogra> but i'm not sure my code respects the next-server variable yet
[01:29] <zsh> oh, that could be
[01:31] <zsh> I should enter the shell by typing: alt+ctrl+F2 or?
[01:31] <zsh> I have rebuild the image and also no success
[01:32] <zsh> I get only a black screen
[01:32] <zsh> strl+alt+F9 brings me back to ldm
[01:32] <ogra> weird
[01:39] <zsh> does screen_02=shell work with feisty?
[02:09] <zsh> the shell works on a real hardware client
[02:09] <zsh> not with vmware
[02:30] <zsh> ogra: I tried a few things, with the client, until I saw following in ldm.log "/usr/bin/ssh -X -t -S /var/run/ldm_socket -l <myuser> 192.168.0.254 ..."
[02:31] <zsh> 192.168.0.254 is not my server
[02:31] <zsh> but the other IPs are ok
[02:32] <zsh> so "next-server" ist not implemented
[02:32] <ogra> so your lts.conf works now ?
[02:32] <ogra> or how did you get into the client
[02:33] <zsh> I tried it on a real hardware client
[02:33] <zsh> not in vmware
[02:33] <zsh> in vmware I get no shell
[02:35] <ogra> you can try setting LDM_SERVER or just SERVER to your servers ip in lts.conf ... ut indeed that only works where lts.conf is read
[02:52] <zsh> ok
[02:52] <zsh> can I try both?
[03:14] <zsh> thx this
[03:17] <zsh> works
[03:18] <zsh> so perhaps I can also connect to my feisty system
[03:25] <RichEd> ping ogra
[03:26] <RichEd> hi ... just installed edubuntu 7.04 to my old mecer (acer) notebook ... it gives me only 640x480 screen resolution ... how do i add other resolutions ?
[03:26] <RichEd> i've run 915 resolution ... but still only the 1 option available
[03:27] <ogra> are you sure its an intel chipset ?
[03:27] <RichEd> how would I check ?
[03:27] <stgraber> RichEd: lspci
[03:27] <ogra> lspci
[03:32] <zsh> ogra: if I point LDM_SERVER and SERVER to my feisty server, I have a authorisation problem, I guess I have to add the ssh keys fprm the feisty server
[03:33] <ogra> indeed
[03:33] <ogra> the client needs to know the keys of the app server you log in to
[03:33] <zsh> is there a quick way to do this?
[03:35] <stgraber> I don't know if there is a quicker way than chroot the ltsp chroot + put the key in there + rebuild the squashfs
[03:38] <zsh> ok
[03:38] <zsh> what is the right way, to import the key
[03:40] <stgraber> you should put them into /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
[03:41] <stgraber> format is the same as your .ssh/known_hosts
[03:41] <zsh> ok, seams easy, thx, I try this
[03:50] <ogra> dont forget to rebuild the image :)
[03:51] <zsh> no, I justed finished
[03:52] <zsh> wow, it works, great great great
[03:52] <zsh> thx thx thx
[03:54] <zsh> has the thinclient now still a open network connection to my gutsy server?
[03:54] <zsh> it I don't use the swaping-server
[03:58] <zsh> ok, I have to go
[03:58] <zsh> thx, for your great work
[03:59] <zsh> gutsy ltsp will rock
[03:59] <zsh> bye
[03:59] <ogra> thanks, ciao :)
[04:04] <afd> hi! I have an LTSP setup running with an Ubuntu server (this is not an Edubuntu installation though)
[04:05] <afd> One of my terminals, where Gnome runs, was configured through the Keyboard applet to have an aditional layout (Romanian)
[04:05] <afd> this has the immediate  effect of reseting the terminal and not allowing it to log in into that account anymore
[04:05] <afd> any experience with this?
[04:06] <RichEd> hi ogra ... i'm back ... yes lspci says Intel GJ/GE Chipset Integrated Graphicd Device
[04:08] <ogra> hmm
[04:09] <RichEd> do i need to restart the GUI once I have run 915resolution
[04:10] <ogra> you should reboot after instalig it
[04:10] <ogra> *installing
[04:10] <RichEd> okie ... doing that now
[04:11] <ogra> afaik it has a bootscript that gets executed
[04:15] <cottima> ogra how art thou?
[04:15] <sbalneav> Morning
[04:16] <stgraber> morning sbalneav
[04:16] <highvoltage> hey sbalneav
[04:16] <sbalneav> hey hey
[04:16] <highvoltage> sbalneav: is there an online copy of the ltsp documentation you have worked on?
[04:17] <ogra> cottima, fine fine ... bit busy preparing the tribe4 CD :)
[04:17] <sbalneav> Well, it's on the handbook, so it's mirrored on the docs.edubuntu.com I think
[04:50] <bddebian> Heya
[05:36] <gduteil_> hello
[05:38] <gduteil> hello i'm back
[05:43] <JonNoob_> HELP- Got a install of edubuntu feisty server where the clients won't boot. It says rpc failed: 2 after running /scripts/nfs-premount
[05:56] <JonNoob_> Could someone please tell me where i have to change the ip on my server if i want to use a different ip-range than the default? Is it only dhcpd.conf and system-administration-network?
[07:35] <cliebow> cbx33:any tips on adding x11vnc..sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 and apt-get installx11vnc ..sees no package..
[07:36] <cbx33> cliebow, i havn't had much exp with that....
[07:36] <cliebow> k..
[07:36] <cbx33> i tested a different way
[07:36] <cbx33> I'm just writing a mail ti the ML
[07:37] <cliebow> k..i see gutsy main restricted as only repo in sources.list
[07:43] <cbx33> oh
[07:43] <cbx33> are you running gutsy?
[07:44] <cliebow> yes
[07:44] <cliebow> gutsy
[07:47] <cbx33> oh
[07:47] <cbx33> i have no idea then
[07:47] <cbx33> ;)
[07:57] <cliebow> how can i tell what repo holds x11vnc/libvncserver?
[07:57] <cliebow> ohh
[07:57] <cbx33> hmmm
[07:57] <cbx33> what about a search
[07:57] <cbx33> packages.ubuntu.com
[07:58] <cliebow> heh yeah..just remembered
[07:59] <cliebow> universe
[07:59] <cliebow> ..wonder whether i should twek sources.list in chroot
[08:02] <cliebow> too late to worry now 8~)
[08:04] <cbx33> hehe
[08:04] <cbx33> bbl
[08:06] <cliebow> here goes!
[08:07] <cliebow> ohh..build-image
[08:10] <cliebow> whooops..update-image
[09:04] <cliebow> cbx33:how should i go about troubleshooting tcm? with one user i do not see him
[09:04] <cbx33> heheh
[09:04] <cbx33> does he have a b at the start or end of his name?
[09:05] <cbx33> username
[09:06] <cliebow> username is oogabooga (of course)
[09:06] <cbx33> hmmm
[09:06] <cbx33> oh yeh it's a b anywhere
[09:06] <cbx33> looks like no one applied my patch
[09:06] <cliebow> heh..ill try oogaooga
[09:06] <cbx33> I'll send one to you
[09:06] <cbx33> yup
[09:06] <LaserJock> cbx33: a "b" anywhere will make it not work? :-)
[09:06] <cliebow> wierd..
[09:07] <cbx33> yup
[09:07] <cbx33> no
[09:07] <cbx33> there is a python command that's wrong
[09:07] <cbx33> it strips chars instead of replacing a astring
[09:08] <cbx33> i sent ogra a patch for this
[09:08] <cbx33> months ago
[09:08] <cbx33> ;)
[09:08] <cliebow> cbx33:you'll have to sen the manual too 8~)
[09:08] <cbx33> hehe
[09:09] <cbx33> bbl
[09:31] <cliebow> cbx33:no joy..ooga     pts/1        2007-08-07 15:22 (192.168.0.242)
[10:37] <tck> anyone here?
[10:44] <LaserJock> tck: if you've got a question you can just ask
[10:44] <tck> it's ok i don't need to now, thanks :)
[11:02] <moquist> ogra: are you sure su-ing as "postmaster" is right? what about su-ing to "postgres"?
[11:02] <moquist> (pitti's not around ATM)
[11:06] <LaserJock> moquist: I think he's in the middle of trying to salvage Tribe 4 :-)