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| Balaams_Miracle | I would like to translate Museeq to Dutch, but for that, i will need lupdate. Does anybody know in which (meta?)package i can find that? (assuming it exists in our repos) | 12:18 |
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| Balaams_Miracle | !info lupdate | 12:18 |
| ubotu | Package lupdate does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas | 12:18 |
| Riddell | if it's not in launchpad translations, you'd need to ask the developers of the app in question | 12:20 |
| Balaams_Miracle | Riddell, i only need lupdate, which is supposed to extract translatable strings from a source file, and dump those stings into a .tr file, making it possible to translate them using qt3-linguist | 12:22 |
| Balaams_Miracle | As i understand it, it should be part of some qt dev package, but the problem is finding out which one | 12:22 |
| Riddell | packages.ubuntu.com | 12:23 |
| Balaams_Miracle | No such luck, but i did manage to find something at LP, gotta figure out if that's really what i need because this one is called pylupdate, i have no idea if that would do the exact same thing as lupdate | 12:27 |
| Riddell | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=lupdate&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386 | 12:29 |
| Riddell | libqt4-dev | 12:29 |
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| Balaams_Miracle | I've been told by someone that qt4 stuff won't work with qt3 sources, but i do not know if that's true. But even if it is, do you recon this qt4-version of lupdate will create qt3-compatible .tr files? | 12:33 |
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| Riddell | I've no idea I'm afraid, I've never used qt's translation format | 12:39 |
| Balaams_Miracle | I'd rather us .po myself, but i can't choose for dealstorm (the museek/nicotine dev) | 12:41 |
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| mhb | Riddell: splendid, restricted-manager-kde hit the archives | 12:52 |
| Riddell | blamo | 12:52 |
| mhb | Riddell: thanks for the help and mentoring! :o) and now let me be the first to welcome the bugreports | 12:52 |
| Riddell | thanks for coding! | 12:53 |
| mhb | Riddell: a docstring from onboard: """ Very messy class holds the keyboard widget. (...)""" | 12:56 |
| Riddell | encouraging | 12:57 |
| mhb | Riddell: indeed. I am still not convinced which solution is the best... | 12:59 |
| Riddell | mhb: out of which options? | 01:03 |
| mhb | Riddell: improve kvkbd (perhaps port to Qt4), build a simple kcontrol module for it OR restructure onboard to have a separate common/gnome part and then write a kde frontend | 01:06 |
| mhb | Riddell: what are the features that you like on onboard that much? | 01:07 |
| Riddell | macros, one button keyboard | 01:07 |
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| Riddell | plus it looks better | 01:08 |
| mhb | Riddell: on the other hand, kvkbd loads the localised keyboard on first startup, whereas onboard segfaults on first startup (it could be me, or my locale, I dunno) | 01:10 |
| mhb | and the appearance of kvkbd can be changed | 01:10 |
| Riddell | I'm sure a bug in onboard can be fixed | 01:14 |
| Riddell | the appearane on kvkdb can't really be changed, it just uses qbuttons, onboard uses svgs | 01:14 |
| mhb | Riddell: also, the time is running out ... FF in 9 days | 01:17 |
| mhb | I really don't know... | 01:18 |
| Riddell | there's not actually a lot of code in onboard, it shouldn't be hard to port | 01:20 |
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| mhb | 2000 gtk-ridden badly documented messy lines ... the number's not that high, but those multipliers are scary :o) | 01:23 |
| mhb | we'll see in the morning, goodnight all | 01:23 |
| Riddell | sleep well | 01:24 |
| jjesse | night mhb | 01:55 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:14 |
| innovati | hey there | 03:20 |
| bddebian | Hello innovati | 03:20 |
| innovati | what's shakin tonight? | 03:20 |
| bddebian | Nuttin' You? | 03:21 |
| innovati | hahah not too much | 03:21 |
| innovati | listening to LoveStoned......that's about it | 03:21 |
| ScottK | Hi there bddebian. | 03:25 |
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| bddebian | Heya ScottK | 03:26 |
| bddebian | What the hell is LoveStoned? | 03:26 |
| innovati | oh uh......deinitely *not* Justin Timberlake........ | 03:28 |
| bddebian | Titney Spews? | 03:28 |
| innovati | I like from ~2:40 onward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgu9tUmUYfo | 03:28 |
| bddebian | err Brittany Spears? :-) | 03:28 |
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| ScottK | Why is restricted manager IN restricted? Surely it's FOSS | 05:07 |
| robotgeek | ScottK: maybe it contains restricted firmware etc? | 05:08 |
| ScottK | Don't think it does. | 05:08 |
| === robotgeek checks | ||
| ScottK | It just manages what you have. | 05:08 |
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| robotgeek | well, it is all .py files :) | 05:10 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 05:10 |
| ScottK | mhb: Why is restricted-manager IN restricted? | 05:10 |
| ScottK | He wrote the KDE one. | 05:10 |
| ScottK | He's also sleeping. | 05:10 |
| robotgeek | well, it is kinda useless without the restricted files, maybe if someone did not have restricted in there, it might not work (dependency management) | 05:10 |
| robotgeek | apt-get enabling foo not required | 05:11 |
| ScottK | I'm be curious why. | 05:11 |
| nixternal | OK, who here has been doing PyQt4 work extensively? :) | 05:39 |
| ScottK | You | 05:43 |
| ScottK | 'cause I know you've been working really hard on pinentry-qt4. | 05:44 |
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| nixternal | bah pinentry-qt4 and its mess | 05:51 |
| ScottK | You're gonna want it for kde4. | 05:53 |
| nixternal | I am switching to windows | 05:58 |
| nixternal | heh, I tried to come up with another DE, but I couldn't | 05:58 |
| nixternal | Gnome and Xfce just hit my head, and I brain dumped | 05:58 |
| robotgeek | i am about to try the kde4 live cd (suse, though) | 05:59 |
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| nixternal | well I was going to tell robotgeek, that I heard it was kind of bad right now | 06:05 |
| ScottK | I'm guessing he'll know for himself shortly. | 06:09 |
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| robotgeek | no gutsy tribe 3 for ppc? (i know it is not supported :) ) | 06:30 |
| robotgeek | nvm, found here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/daily/current/ | 06:33 |
| nixternal | is there a tribe 3 for ppc? | 06:35 |
| nixternal | I have a ppc sittng here that I decided not to get up and running because we were supposedly dropping support | 06:36 |
| ScottK | Dropping "Support", but not support. | 06:37 |
| nixternal | hey, thanks! | 06:37 |
| nixternal | for confusing me :) | 06:37 |
| ScottK | It's there, AFAIK, but if it's broken, they aren't going to lift a finger over it. | 06:38 |
| robotgeek | sigh, nobody is seeding, even. | 06:38 |
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| nixternal | ahhh | 06:39 |
| nixternal | ya, nobody hardly ever seeds the .torrents | 06:39 |
| nixternal | I just download from the local uni now at like 2mbs | 06:39 |
| robotgeek | nixternal: well, it is the daily current, so i would guess its okay | 06:39 |
| robotgeek | nixternal: lucky, i only got 700 K/s | 06:40 |
| nixternal | I haven't heard of it breaking anything just yet | 06:40 |
| nixternal | 700k/s from ubuntu.com? | 06:40 |
| nixternal | I am jealous! | 06:40 |
| robotgeek | yeah | 06:40 |
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| robotgeek | 750K/s even . /me is happy for once | 06:40 |
| nixternal | ya, anything from *buntu.* would kill my machine if I got more than 200k/s | 06:41 |
| robotgeek | i was so happy with my univ net :) used to download iso's in about 6 minutes or so | 06:41 |
| robotgeek | and we did not even have a local mirror | 06:41 |
| robotgeek | they support(ed) redhat on campus, and i think were planning to dual boot | 06:42 |
| robotgeek | my upload sucks though | 06:42 |
| nixternal | ya, mine too | 06:43 |
| robotgeek | damn, all i want to do is try out kde4 :) | 06:45 |
| nixternal | hehe | 06:45 |
| nixternal | ooh, IBM now going to start selling Linux laptops..nice | 06:53 |
| nixternal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIk4qTKmKzE | 07:11 |
| nixternal | haha | 07:11 |
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| _StefanS_ | kwwii_: nice suse colors in that background wallpaper 8-) | 10:26 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | why keeps everyone thinking these are suse colors? | 10:54 |
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| apachelogger | _StefanS_: I guess thoose are colors from the kubuntu logo | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | so you bascially said we have a suse logo :P | 10:55 |
| _StefanS_ | apachelogger: yea, I know, i have joked with kwii before on that :) | 11:00 |
| _StefanS_ | apachelogger: just thought they looked very alike | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | hm | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | maybe I should checkout suse some time | 11:01 |
| _StefanS_ | apachelogger: I do occasionally, but it never work in a vm. | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | poor suse | 11:01 |
| _StefanS_ | apachelogger: either the harddisks cannot be found, or it crashes later during boot. | 11:01 |
| _StefanS_ | apachelogger: there's always something. Even on physical hardware using a VIA c7@1.5ghz with epia ex board it still didn't work. Couldn't find my sata disk. | 11:02 |
| _StefanS_ | so.. yes. Poor suse. | 11:04 |
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| _StefanS_ | apachelogger: what are you committing to KDE? | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | just some www patches | 11:20 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm for konqy? | 11:23 |
| Duloup | Hello ! I'd like to know what is the recommended way to request a package update (kmymoney 0.8.6 in Gutsy and 0.8.7 in Debian unstable) ? Here on IRC or opening a bug in launchpad ? | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee | Duloup: greetings | 11:29 |
| Duloup | greetings Hobbsee (not a native english speaker not sure what to answer to this ;-) ) | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | greetings == hello | 11:31 |
| Hobbsee | Duloup: sync requested. should be done in a few days :) | 11:32 |
| Duloup | thank you very much Hobbsee ! | 11:32 |
| Hobbsee | no problem : | 11:33 |
| Hobbsee | ) | 11:33 |
| Hobbsee | Duloup: here's always a good start, if people are talking. they can always ask you to file a bug instead, if it'll take a bunch of work to do, or something | 11:33 |
| Duloup | ok | 11:35 |
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| apachelogger | _StefanS_: for the websites | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | everyone always forgets the websites :( | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | poor kde-www | 11:39 |
| _StefanS_ | oh :) | 11:42 |
| _StefanS_ | true indeed | 11:42 |
| Riddell | kde.org needs a new hotspot for example | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | just, what is hotspot worthy right now? | 11:46 |
| Riddell | I was thinking kde patronship | 11:47 |
| Riddell | which does already have a logo | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | yeah, probably a good idea | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | omg | 11:48 |
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| mhb | ScottK: it's completely free software, but I guess they are keeping it in restricted because some handlers contain links on proprietary firmware | 01:25 |
| mhb | ScottK: for example, the bcm43xx class wireless cards need a firmware file and the code contains an URL where you can download it | 01:26 |
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| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | anyone want to help port kde/qt to lpia? | ||
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| OculusAquilae | hi | 03:37 |
| ScottK | Hello. | 03:38 |
| OculusAquilae | Is bug #6306 still unfixed in gutsy. There seems to be a patch. | 03:46 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 6306 in kiosktool "Kiosk admin tool tries to login with root account " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6306 | 03:47 |
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| Riddell | OculusAquilae: it's fixed | 03:48 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 04:50 |
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| icefox | Are thier plans to package xdg-user-dirs (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs)? | 04:57 |
| icefox | it would be nice to have/use in kde4 | 04:59 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: [ 25%] Generating amarokconfig.h, amarokconfig.cpp | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: i'm getting http://rafb.net/p/Giz8ba34.html in running r-m-kde, in the console. the app doesnt seem to crash | 05:01 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: ah, yes. it's because you click where there's nothing defined. I forgot to catch it. | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 05:04 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: it shouldn't be critical, though | 05:04 |
| Hobbsee | no, doesnt seem to be | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | just thought it might be useful | 05:05 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: sure! Thanks for reporting it, I remember seeing it, I must have forgotten to fix it. I'll fix it soonish. | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 05:07 |
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| nosrednaekim | hey, what packages do I have to install to get kde4 working? | 05:22 |
| nosrednaekim | like which kde4 packages? I just have KDE4base installed (and -dev as well) | 05:24 |
| Hobbsee | kde4base, as said on kubuntu.org, i believe | 05:24 |
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| nosrednaekim | hmm ok... | 05:26 |
| nosrednaekim | its says to install kde4base-dev (which I have installed)... but it still doesn't work.I'll try to see whats keeping it from running. I had alpha1 running fine. | 05:27 |
| nosrednaekim | ah I figured it out.. I had to have Xephyr export to display 2 | 05:32 |
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| apachelogger | dpkg-deb: building package `amarok2' in `../amarok2_2.0.0+svn693037-0ubuntu1_i386.deb'. | 05:50 |
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| Riddell | awooga | 05:51 |
| Riddell | s/+/~/ in the version number | 05:51 |
| apachelogger | k | 05:51 |
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| nixternal | Hobbsee: that guy will give you a headache | 06:05 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: yeah. he'll get a +q soon, i expect | 06:10 |
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| Hobbsee | !grub | 06:27 |
| ubotu | grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto | 06:27 |
| serzholino | what is lpia? | 06:27 |
| serzholino | from topic | 06:28 |
| Riddell | new intel mobile architecture | 06:28 |
| serzholino | ah :) | 06:28 |
| serzholino | btw, threre were some topics in kde-core-devel about supporting qt/embedded in kdelibs | 06:29 |
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| serzholino | and some preliminary support is alredy in kdelibs trunk | 06:30 |
| Riddell | this just needs someone who knows a bit about packaging and a lot of patience | 06:30 |
| nixternal | Riddell: what is that? | 06:31 |
| nixternal | ahh, I have been seeing a lot of the lpia uploads of late in gutsy | 06:32 |
| nixternal | now I know what it is :) | 06:32 |
| serzholino | Riddell: so, for lpia qt/x11 will be used? | 06:33 |
| Riddell | not by default, but it's nice to have it available | 06:34 |
| serzholino | yep | 06:34 |
| serzholino | i meant qt/x11 as opposed to qt/embedded | 06:35 |
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| Riddell | yes | 06:37 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: I take it you did the MIR for kvkbd? | 06:52 |
| Riddell | nixternal: no, I put it into universe | 06:53 |
| nixternal | I just got the "Accepted into Main" message | 06:53 |
| Riddell | (and only accepted it because of a bad command) | 06:53 |
| Riddell | it's in universe now | 06:53 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: master, master, what shall I do with the monster? | 07:22 |
| apachelogger | toss it up on revu? | 07:22 |
| Riddell | revu is down | 07:23 |
| Riddell | toss it up elsewhere | 07:23 |
| apachelogger | anything to obliqe! | 07:25 |
| === apachelogger should stop drinking so much coffee Oo | ||
| mhb | oh my, why can't people write code with portability in mind :o) | 07:28 |
| mhb | also with basic sense of documentation | 07:28 |
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| jjesse | but documentation is hard :) | 07:38 |
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| mhb | jjesse: well, I meant the in-code documentation | 07:40 |
| mhb | jjesse: it wouldn't hurt the dev to describe in five words what the function does and where it is used | 07:41 |
| mhb | nixternal: around? | 07:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, nixternal: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/amarok2/ | 07:43 |
| jjesse | mhb: grin that would be too difficult to actually say what something does | 07:44 |
| === nixternal dgets -x | ||
| nixternal | wasabi mhb | 07:47 |
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| mhb | nixternal: I'm starting a port of onboard to Qt4 | 07:54 |
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| mhb | nixternal: onboard is an on-screen keyboard | 07:55 |
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| mhb | nixternal: if I don't fail (and I'm not planning to) one of the duo (kvkbd, onboard-qt) won't be necessary in main | 07:56 |
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| mhb | nixternal: therefore, one of us will have his time wasted | 07:57 |
| nixternal | that is up to Riddell | 07:57 |
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| mhb | nixternal: indeed. I just wanted to inform you about my task, so you don't feel bad about it | 07:59 |
| mhb | nixternal: I hope you're not angry at me. | 08:00 |
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| nixternal | not at all..whatever the better solution is | 08:03 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: amarok 2 needs a copy of the LGPL | 08:26 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: for? | 08:26 |
| Riddell | for the files which are LGPL :) | 08:26 |
| apachelogger | we have lgpl files? Oo | 08:27 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/amarok-lgpl | 08:27 |
| apachelogger | omg! | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | so letz fix that | 08:28 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: git? | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I'm using git-svn | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | <-- browsing a lot in the logs to find a revision which caused a certain b0rkage | 08:29 |
| apachelogger | git is just awesome for this :D | 08:29 |
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| pedahzur | Porting to LPIA? Louisiana Private Investigator Association? Libertarian Party of Iowa? Label Printing Industries of America? Low Probability of Intercept Altimeter? Or would it be, as I assume, Low Power on Intel Architecture? How about adding this link to that question: http://www.intel.com/technology/systems/lpia/ :) | 08:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: fixed | 08:48 |
| pedahzur | Cool. | 08:48 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that seems to quite reliably freeze my computer | 09:04 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: the building or amarok? | 09:05 |
| Riddell | although I don't have any sound on this computer | 09:05 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: running amarok 2 | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | well | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | there are 2 issues I made up which can freeze amarok | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | using phonon without hardware mixing | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | because dmix + phonon only works with recent alsa | 09:06 |
| Riddell | well as I say I don't have any sound | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | and running the intel driver (like me) crashes at least this snapshot | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: a guy in #kubuntu-de is running it quite well | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | can even play mp3s | 09:06 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: want me to upload? | 09:10 |
| apachelogger | well, if nixternal got no objections | 09:13 |
| Riddell | why might nixternal object? | 09:13 |
| apachelogger | no idea, he asked for the package ^_^ | 09:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: maybe we should mention that this snapshot is not supported by upstream in anyway? | 09:13 |
| apachelogger | ...in the long description | 09:14 |
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| Riddell | it does | 09:14 |
| Riddell | well, close enough, I can add it | 09:14 |
| Riddell | hi Lure | 09:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah, please | 09:15 |
| apachelogger | then it's ready for upload I think | 09:15 |
| mhb | Riddell: remember when we were solving the "guidance apps are not translated in systemsettings" bug? It seems to be back. | 09:16 |
| Riddell | grump | 09:16 |
| Riddell | mhb: remind me again after feature freeze | 09:16 |
| hunger | Will kubuntu use tracker? | 09:40 |
| hunger | ubuntu seems to be doing so... and it would be kind of strange to have to seperate systems. | 09:40 |
| stdin | hunger: it will use strigi | 09:41 |
| stdin | afaik | 09:41 |
| hunger | stdin: That is what I heared as well. Too bad:-( | 09:41 |
| hunger | So I'll probably end up indexing everything twice:-( | 09:41 |
| Riddell | yes, it's a bad situation | 09:42 |
| stdin | all ubuntu needs is a strigi client and problem solved :p | 09:42 |
| Riddell | it has one | 09:42 |
| hunger | stdin: Yeap, but strigi is from KDE, they can't have that in gnome:-( | 09:42 |
| stdin | dose it have the same functions too? | 09:42 |
| hunger | stdin: The other way round is true as well of course. | 09:42 |
| stdin | hunger: why? | 09:42 |
| hunger | stdin: NIH syndrom:-( | 09:43 |
| hunger | stdin: plus the two desktops have widely different architectures and goals. What works well for one usually does not for the other. | 09:43 |
| stdin | as long as the daemon doesn't depend on any kde/qt libs and it has a client that is written in gtk, then that would work great | 09:43 |
| stdin | true | 09:44 |
| mhb | hunger: kubuntu and ubuntu doesn't have different goals, AFAIK | 09:44 |
| stdin | we need a nice unified indexer | 09:44 |
| hunger | mhb: Yeap, but gnome and kde does. | 09:44 |
| ScottK | Based on the discussion on #ubuntu-devel, I don't think tracker is that indexer. | 09:44 |
| Riddell | not notably, there's no reason why kde and gnome can't share the same search engine | 09:45 |
| Riddell | ScottK: in which way? | 09:45 |
| ScottK | Lots of complaining it seems to me about how it bogs down your system | 09:45 |
| ScottK | And how it automatically makes copies of pictures and such. | 09:45 |
| Riddell | all indexers do | 09:46 |
| ScottK | OK. | 09:46 |
| hunger | Riddell: They should not duplicate the contents of the files IMHO. | 09:46 |
| ScottK | It just seemed to me that there wasn't a lot of positive said about it. | 09:46 |
| hunger | Riddell: Strigi does, that sucks. | 09:46 |
| Riddell | hunger: yes, both strigi and tracker are looking to stop that | 09:46 |
| hunger | Riddell: jos said space optimization was not even considered yet:-( | 09:48 |
| Riddell | hmm, he told me it was on the todo, but not for a few releases | 09:49 |
| hunger | Riddell: Yes, he said he'll start to think about once more important stuff is done. | 09:50 |
| ScottK | Strigi isn't going to be installed by default is it? | 09:56 |
| Riddell | it is at the moment | 09:58 |
| Riddell | but it's really unstable | 09:58 |
| mhb | you're not going to like me for the new kubuntu-meta bug, I'm afraid | 10:01 |
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