[12:29] except for this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/smartmontools/+bug/11461 which describes a hang [12:29] Launchpad bug 11461 in smartmontools "smartmontools takes the system down to a near halt" [Unknown,Fix released] [12:29] like I told you p4c800e and p4c800e-deluxe are different models [12:29] yes but search for p4c800e will yield results for both [12:30] no I had no system hangs, the system just beeps ramdomly in gutsy [12:30] does it boot? [12:32] yes [12:32] It even installs [12:32] no errors, except a console window that appeared on tribe-2 [12:33] but in tribe one I have no errors reported from the system except those while booting and the random beeping [12:34] turning off ecc cures the symptoms, but I doen't cure the bug === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu+1 === aneb [n=kyle@d235-141-30.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:34] What is this? [12:36] see topic === aneb [n=kyle@d235-141-30.home1.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === RadiantFire [n=ryan@64.203.238.119.static-pool-3.pool.hargray.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arpu_ [n=arpu@p54BFFB93.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:48] fretsonfire is jerky in gutsy [12:48] damnitdamnitdamnit! [12:52] what is fretsonfire? [12:52] guitarhero, basically [12:52] a clone rip off of guitar hero which is a rip off of guitarfreaks === Dave2 nods === opop logs into WVB [12:53] is it in gutsy? [12:53] er, s/clone // [12:53] alex-weej, try building from source [12:53] so did you all hear they're doing a GEICO caveman tv show in the Fall? === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230156.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:54] and "the sarah connor chronicles" or some shit [12:54] AnRkey: it's python anyway [12:54] AnRkey: it was sweet in Feisty [12:54] Dave2: of course, you can make and play new songs with frets on fire [12:54] AnRkey: but now both the gutsy package and the upstream package is jerky [12:54] maybe i need to check my drivers. are there any GL performance tools i can use? [12:54] alex-weej: ut2004 [12:54] .... glxgears [12:54] :) [12:54] quake3? === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230156.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:55] there arent many good linux gl benchmarks === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230156.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:56] http://polarbeardk.blogspot.com/2006/11/gl-obs-gl-open-benchmark-suite-on.html [12:56] ut2004 runs fine === theverant [n=theveran@hlfxns0145w-142167141154.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:57] alex-weej: is it pegging the cpu? === theverant [n=theveran@hlfxns0145w-142167141154.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] [12:59] pwnguin: maybe. let me kill f@h and i'll tell you [12:59] ok it's evolution pegging my fucking CPU [01:00] and nautilus [01:00] and epiphany [01:00] but mostly evolution. help! === Toxicity999 [n=bryan@unaffiliated/Toxicity999] has joined #ubuntu+1 === frandavid100 [n=david@84.126.254.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:03] hello guys [01:03] ok so after nuking those, something is still noticably knacking me every second [01:03] can you take a quick look at this bug? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460277 [01:03] Gnome bug 460277 in stock-icons "new OK / cancel / apply icons look fuzzy" [Normal,Unconfirmed] === irwiss_ [n=irwiss@85.65.1.170.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:04] has anyone used todays cdimage build of kubuntu? [01:05] on one of my test boxes it hung at 6% of the install === pace_t_zulu [n=jhaitas@A230156.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arooni [n=chatzill@c-67-183-136-186.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:06] xtknight: hey man [01:06] gonna install from usb now, hooooope it works [01:06] cu === Xsss4hell [n=opera@p57A9140E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [01:07] xtknight: do u remember the command we used to list out all the partitions ... and what file system etc.. there are [01:07] alex-weej: i recommend gnome-system monitor. it does a good job of highlighting performance over time. just make sure to change iowait to something like yellow so you can see it [01:08] alex-weej: another possibility is that your audio buffer is the wrong size. sometimes that causes problems for me when it's too small [01:11] pwnguin: actually it was gnome-system-monitor that was lagging me once a second as it redraws the graph. go cairo. === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:11] pwnguin: but it looks like a busy loop somewhere in nautilus/ephy/evolution (or some gnome lib) that was causing the grief in the first place. [01:12] pwnguin: thanks :) [01:12] arooni, hey [01:12] arooni, sudo fdisk -l [01:12] right but how do i get labels [01:12] or "sudo lshw" or maybe "mount" or "df -h" [01:12] lshw showed the model number of the HD and stuff [01:13] arooni, did you get it working after all? [01:13] i kind of forgot [01:13] xtknight: linux works fine [01:13] but now i'm trying to fix it so i can boot winxp [01:13] ahh [01:13] oh boy :\ [01:14] i wish i could hire a linux expert [01:14] to come over here and fix it in 5 min [01:14] you could enable vnc [01:15] vino-preferences [01:15] is that virtual windows boot [01:15] nono [01:15] desktop shraing [01:15] sharing* [01:16] looks like you have comcast in WA. i haev comcast in MI. we should have a fast connection [01:16] pwnguin: i meant the applet. it doesn't take much cpu ;) the full program does, but i guess it looks pretty [01:17] arooni: ubnutu didnt detect windows xp at install? [01:17] oooh [01:17] cool [01:17] yeah i can do that [01:17] i dont know how === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:17] dual booting is hard. hard enough that windows generally doesn't even bother helping you with it [01:18] silly wniodw [01:18] arooni, behind a router? [01:19] arooni: if you really want to hire a linux expert to help you in person, you could either contact the Washington LoCo, or look for some local Linux User Groups === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:19] xtknight: yeah === mrigns [n=mrigns@ACB3D928.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:20] arooni, know about nat or port forwarding? [01:20] xtknight: yes [01:20] arooni, ok can you set it up to allow vnc to ur ip? [01:21] vnc listens on port 5900 i think [01:21] check out : http://pastie.caboo.se/85248 and http://pastie.caboo.se/85430 [01:21] i can set it uppartiion [01:21] i can set it up for sure [01:21] fucking great. now it's trackerd taking 100% CPU [01:22] arooni, what are these? the pastes [01:22] first one at least [01:22] wrong url? [01:22] ... [01:22] first one is the oops [01:22] oops [01:22] http://pastie.caboo.se/85428 [01:23] the second one is windows bootloader [01:23] ya boot.ini [01:23] basically showing windows drive is on disk1, parition0, but its looking for ... disk0, partition 1 [01:23] am i interpreting that right? [01:23] i tihnk so [01:23] windows is confusing [01:23] there's that rdisk thing [01:23] i dont really know it too well [01:24] arooni: is there a reason you're not using grub? [01:24] pwnguin: i am using grub [01:24] i want to use grub [01:24] ok [01:24] i was told in windows to less /dev/hdc1 [01:24] less /dev/hdc1/boot.ini [01:24] i mean === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:25] alrighty. interesting, you've got windows on a seperate disk from linux [01:25] right [01:25] thats true [01:26] arooni, well you cant even get it to show the windows loader right? boot.ini is after grub [01:26] so that's the first step [01:26] its on my 80gb hard drive, the 25 gb partition [01:26] Anyone know why all opengl apps(glxgears,warsow) kill my xserver. I am using compiz. [01:26] i can get it to show the windows boot loader [01:26] in grub [01:26] oh === j3g [n=andrer@200.130.18.1] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:26] let me paste my menu.lst [01:26] arooni: did you customize this boot.ini? [01:26] any way i can disable tracker? [01:26] it's eaten all of my RAM and still going [01:26] pwnguin: nope [01:27] kswapd is going mental [01:27] where is the menu.list [01:27] i foret [01:27] alex-weej: what is trackerd? [01:27] arooni, /boot/grub === Kousotu [i=Invincib@ppp-68-20-6-236.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:27] pwnguin: newfangled metadata store [01:27] when i try to boot into win xp via the grub interface, i get this problem: "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \system32\hal.dll ... please re-install a copy of the file above [01:27] alex-weej: it's probably doing a primary index build [01:27] pwnguin: and i don't want it to. i want it to piss off. :P [01:28] oh well, i've killed it for now [01:28] then kill -9 it [01:28] i just want to play a bit of FoF :D [01:28] alex-weej: fair enough. you could either remove it through apt-get, or kill it [01:28] it ate 800 MB [01:28] -9 is too harsh [01:28] i just TERMd it [01:28] let the thing at least clean up ;) [01:29] pwnguin: xtknight here is my menu.lst: http://pastie.caboo.se/85433 [01:29] i installed gutsy as my hardware is not really supported under feisty... but after doing apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, it seems to have damaged some scrollkeeper files... installing cupsys prints out a lot of parser errors on /lib/scrollkeeper/pa/scrollkeeper_cl.xml, is there a way to rebuild this? [01:29] short of reinstalling [01:29] arooni: what's with the markup of this text? [01:30] pwnguin: i dont know is it confusing [01:30] should i repaste somewhere else? [01:31] it's not too bad, but it might help if you did paste elsewhere === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-120-230-100.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:31] arooni: i dont quite get the map stuff under the winXP boot section [01:31] pwenhttp://rafb.nert/p/7k6db178.html [01:32] http://rafb.net/p/7k6db178.html [01:32] are you typing these in by hand? [01:32] yeah, other comp has no inet [01:32] ok [01:33] so what happens when you pick the menu entry that says specificially "Microsoft Windows XP Professional" [01:33] ? === emet [n=guest@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h42n4c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:35] pwnguin: i get the error i discussed above .. can't find WINDOWS ROOT/system32/hal.dll [01:35] arooni, probably wrong disk or rdisk # [01:35] in boot.ini [01:35] i duno [01:36] arooni: and im guessing the one that says NT/2000/XP doesn't work at all [01:37] i can't get winxp to boot. i can see grub at startup, but when i select windows i get an error that /system32/hal.dll could not be found. i have verified that the file exists on the hard drive in question. how can i boot to winxp (i can already boot to ubuntu 7.04). ... list of devices etc... & output of lshw -l: http://pastie.caboo.se/85428, my grub's menu.list: http://pastie.ca [01:37] boo.se/85433.... and finally the output /media/hdc1/boot.ini (the partition wih winxp on it).... http://pastie.caboo.se/85430 [01:37] oops u folks know all that [01:38] pwnguin: it takes me to a boot loader with two options [01:38] when i select either one.. screen goes blank for awhile, then comp reboots [01:38] hmm === dick-richardson [n=joshua@host-97-128-220-24.midco.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === frandavid100 [n=david@84.126.254.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [01:39] arooni, if you press "Microsoft Windows XP Professional" on grub it goes to menu.lst right? [01:39] er boot.ini [01:40] I'm running kubuntu gutsy...I can't find the battery monitor. am I messing something up? [01:42] xtknight: I'm not certain. i believe grub replaces the boot.ini [01:42] nah [01:42] I know it's still there. I'm saying I believe it loads the windows kernel...bypassing it [01:42] dick-richardson: its a bit more complicated than that for arooni [01:43] ok boot.ini's naming convention: (ARC) for IDE, multi is always 0. rdisk is always 0. disk is the 0-based index of the HD (hdX). partition is y (hdX,y) [01:43] and partition starts at 1 :\ [01:44] hurray for consistancy [01:44] hd(x,y) in grub->multi(0)rdisk(0)disk(x)partition(y+1) for boot.ini. with that in mind... [01:44] gotcha...sorry. coming to the conversation late : [01:45] xtknight: what should i do [01:45] arooni, well where is your windows disk? find it and mount it [01:45] arooni, i just need the /dev/hdx [01:45] hda1, hdb5, etc [01:45] xtknight: it should be /dev/hdc1 [01:45] ok [01:45] BUT [01:45] look at the chainloader block again [01:46] then, most likely multi(0)rdisk(0)disk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS [01:46] sata show up sdx, correct? [01:46] we can try different things [01:46] dick-richardson, actually hdx [01:46] er sdx for linux [01:46] map (hd0) (hd2) [01:46] hdx,y for grub [01:46] map (hd2) (hd0) [01:46] grub redid the bios mapping [01:46] ya that map thing is confusing [01:46] xtknight: its... /dev/hdc1 [01:46] well we can add different entries in boot.ini [01:46] to test [01:47] arooni, make one of them /dev/hdc1 in boot.ini. that is, multi(0)rdisk(0)disk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS [01:47] sorry that's out of order [01:47] edit with what? [01:48] multi(0)disk(2)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [01:48] i dunno? ntfs-3g? [01:49] maybe "map" is trying to change what boot.ini points to [01:49] hmm [01:49] whatever app you suggest needs to respect windows text formatting [01:49] also, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/map.html [01:49] "wine notepad" [01:49] anyone familiar with a lack of battery monitor in kubuntu+1? === pwnguin doesn't use kde === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-211-160-145.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:52] it has it's moments [01:53] hey im' back [01:54] but the real advantage that battery monitor had was automatically changing the cpu governor on my laptop when on ac or dc [01:54] and telling me how much battery I had left :P [01:54] dick-richardson: check if acpi loaded [01:54] its possible your acpi is broken [01:54] so did we have a final decisiion [01:55] arooni: on? [01:55] pwnguin: acpi at the command line works [01:55] what to change [01:55] i'm assuming that means it's loaded [01:55] arooni: if you have write access to boot.ini, xtknight wanted to try some variations on that [01:56] dick-richardson: should. also check /proc [01:56] ok i can access boot.ini [01:56] arooni: read-write or read only? [01:56] pwnguin: it's there === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:56] dick-richardson: well duh. i meant /proc/acpi/* [01:56] xtknight: i can edit cuz i have ubuntu loaded and the winxp partitions uplaodedd [01:56] i mean mounted [01:56] arooni, and ntfs-3g driver? [01:57] yeah [01:57] ah k [01:57] ahh i [01:57] dont have that installed yet [01:57] need it for write === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:57] !ntfs-3g [01:57] ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [01:57] arooni: when you type in mount, does the line for /dev/hdc1 say "rw" or "ro" [01:57] ? [01:57] pwnguin: there's quite a bit there...anything we're looking for specifically? [01:57] dick-richardson: well, battery, but it sounds like it's all working. [01:57] pwnguin: um, what args to pass to mount [01:58] arooni: none [01:58] you cant write with "ntfs" [01:58] you need "ntfs-3g" [01:58] yep...must be a kde deal [01:58] unless you have a special kernel with the unstable write suppotr [01:58] with no options it should display the list of currently mounted file systems === frying_fish [n=frying_f@AC8EBA7B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:00] do i need to remount the windows directory after i install the ntfs-3g driver === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has left #ubuntu+1 ["requested] [02:02] why do i get readonly [02:02] when i try to edit the boot.ini file [02:02] if i type mount... i see rw for every drive === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:12] arooni, well the ntfs driver itself does not support rw [02:12] it might evn say rw [02:13] you need ntfs-3g tho and yeah you need to remount with "mount -t ntfs-3g" [02:16] !fuse | arooni [02:16] arooni: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-211-160-145.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@125.34.252.91] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:43] Anyone know why running glxgears will kill my xserver while running compiz? [02:43] tehk: Because you're using the nvidia binary blob, and it's crap? [02:45] Thanks [02:46] Well, I haven't been actually *helpful* :( === macd [n=d@adsl-150-25-229.aby.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:50] No worries. I need to drop my 7950gx2 as soon as intel comes out with a new powerful solution with open drivers. [02:51] Or nouveau works, whichever happens first :) [02:53] i still wish gobuntu would actively do something, instead of sitting around talking about patents, logos and such. [02:54] Wait what do you want them to do? === macd [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:54] package alternatives to things they want to take out [02:54] for example, nouveau [02:54] Well that is still very very much beta [02:54] Which doesn't work [02:55] They include nv, which does. [02:55] who cares, at least it'd be easy to try out [02:55] And is still open source. [02:55] Its a release not a beta try out distro [02:55] pwnguin: Try my PPA if you really want to try out nouveau. [02:55] so put it in motu [02:55] But they break all the time. [02:55] its not like im saying install by default [02:56] Git moves fast, so it would be counterproductive to test any packages in the distro. [02:56] and anyways, im not sure why nouveau is more beta than nv [02:56] pwnguin: Because it doesn't work? [02:56] pwnguin, because nv work? [02:56] nv is (1) stable, (2) has been released === Pici [n=Pici@c-24-91-182-77.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-48-177.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:57] define release === d4rkmonkey [n=J-Red@70.47.76.150] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:57] Oh, and because to test nouveau you need a (moving) git snapshot of libdrm, which will break non-nouveau drivers. [02:58] pwnguin: Has put a tarball up on freedesktop.org :) [02:58] that sounds unfun === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:58] does nouveau actually use t&l? [02:58] No. [02:59] It doesn't do 3d. [02:59] whats the point? [02:59] Except to the most rudimentary extent. [02:59] It *will* do 3d, someday :) [02:59] im a bit confused as to how nouveau forked nv and wound up with less 2d functionality, but if it's depending on a new version of a library, that might be plausible grounds for non-inclusion [03:00] NVidia/ATI's reasons for a binary blob are pretty well established now. [03:00] I'm trying to install rock box utils, and I downloaded the gutsy .deb from the rockbox site, when GDebi starts up it seems to load something then it crashes. How do I install from terminal? [03:00] jmg: they dont want to be sued for crimed they think they may have committed? [03:00] They've both adjusted their licenses to allow including the driver as part of a distribution too. [03:00] pwnguin: i beleive the legal term is "deadly embrace" [03:01] well, all i know is that they keep dropping video cards [03:01] this is true. [03:01] I hate how the NV driver seems to have totally unaccelerated 3D. [03:01] er, 2D. [03:01] that's why we ave -legacy. [03:02] -legacy likely receives no security attention [03:02] DanaG: Actually, it doesn't. It should do 2d accel. [03:02] At least on the lab computers at my college -- Fedora 6, I think, and FX 5200. === pwnguin has been working on a hack to nv [03:02] I imagine if someone disclosed a security issue it would be looked at. [03:02] But I got all sorts of slowness and tearing-ness with nv. [03:03] I'll have to try the Gutsy nv for 2D functionality some time. [03:03] pwnguin: The reason why nouveau has (kinda) worse 2d than nv is that they rewrote huge parts of it. [03:03] That's not a reason. [03:03] the bigger problem with nv i have is that edids are broken for widescreen [03:03] Yup, I'd agree with that. [03:03] pwnguin: (1) In order to get it ready for 3d, (2) To push a bunch of stuff into a drm kernel module. [03:04] i keep thinking rights management [03:04] yeah [03:04] Oh, one thing I hope for in nouveau: compatibility with nvidiafb. === OSUKid7 [n=OSUKid7@acm.bw.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:04] i assume it means direct rendering manager [03:04] Too bad the DRM (as in DRI) name wasn [03:05] 't trademarked. === Pici- [n=Pici@c-24-91-182-77.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:05] Heh. [03:06] Yeah, nouveau is (among other things) kinda a prototype for pushing useful bits of X drivers into kernelspace. [03:06] Then others couln't have called it Digital Rights Management. I wonder what they'd call it.... digital CRIPPLEDNESS management? [03:07] Then again, maybe trademarks don't work that way. [03:08] so is madwifi non-free or what? === IdleOne [n=idleone@unaffiliated/idleone] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG wonders why the 'madwifi' project's module is not called 'madwifi'. [03:10] It's reeeeeally confusing. === theoros [n=theoros@unaffiliated/theoros] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:10] ? [03:11] probably because madwifi is not a good name? [03:11] i mean, ath_hal is a reasonably descriptive module name [03:11] At least iwlwifi has names 'iwl3945' and 'iwl4965'. [03:12] But ath_something has no logical connection to 'madwifi'. [03:12] (ath_pci, and anything else) [03:12] supposedly there's openHAL [03:12] i dont know how finished it is [03:13] And that name collides with "HAL". [03:15] ? [03:15] its a hardware access layer [03:15] Not to be confused with the "Hardware Abstraction Layer" daemon. [03:16] or even abstraction [03:17] at any rate, what id rather see from the gobuntu community is doing, rather than arguing [03:18] Another naming issue there... in my mind, go => mobile === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu+1 === r0bby [n=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:23] gobuntu ? === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-248-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.82.189] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SmrtJustin [n=SmrtJust@72.241.32.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-162-129.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Vorbote [n=vorbote@190.24.73.209] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:50] how could 'Loading hardware drivers' just mysteriously disappear? Good: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32519/ Bad: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32518/ === eMaX [n=emax@66.11.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:12] enough futzing around with ipw3945 semi-functionality -- madwifi for the win! [04:13] now, to wait for the fix to the "o hai i pwned ur 2nd core" in smp-alternatives === arooni [n=chatzill@74-61-37-56.sea.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hwilde blank stare === enyc_ [n=enyc@1337.whitehorse.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:17] Oh yeah, I have sometimes been getting a kernel oops in something, on my second core, upon resume from suspend. === Dekkard [n=right@adsl-68-74-0-169.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns_ [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === defcon [n=defcon@70-58-240-127.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:28] hey folks [04:28] xtknight: u there ? [04:29] arooni, ya [04:29] ok [04:29] i can finally write to boot.ini [04:30] i changed the boot.ini file you reccomended , but then i couldnt load windows [04:30] it said some error about reading hard drive [04:32] hmm i'm afraid i dont really know how to fix it, other than just brute forcing the boot.ini numbers. just trying different ones.. [04:32] Oh yeah, the partition that has ntldr has to be marked active, for one thing/ [04:33] ah, i didn't know that [04:33] and boot flag === r00tintheb0x [n=r00tinth@c-98-196-107-67.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@66.108.218.197] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:35] IntuitiveNipple: would ah ok [04:35] DanaG: how do i do that [04:36] hwilde: how would i do that [04:36] 'active' and 'the boot flag' are the same thing, I believe. [04:36] boot into the live cd, run gparted or qtparted, set the flag [04:40] or just use "makeactive" w/ grub === Adlai [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-12451f8729ffcba5] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === rockets [n=rockets@cpe-66-108-218-197.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:03] hmm. has anyone tested totem inihibiting dpmi in gutsy? [05:04] dpmi? [05:04] You mean, screensaver & suspend type stuff? [05:04] probably the wrong acronym [05:04] yes [05:04] dpms === pwnguin is tired of blank screens 20 minutes into a 30 minute show === rockets [n=rockets@cpe-66-108-218-197.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:05] I'm pretty sure it works for me. Maybe it's an Xgl issue? That's what it was on Feisty, iirc :) [05:08] i dont think im using xgl [05:08] i do have beryl running under nvidia [05:09] but mplayer doesnt have the problem === rockets [n=rockets@cpe-66-108-218-197.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.18.198] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jgoss [n=josh@unaffiliated/jgoss] has joined #ubuntu+1 === roe [n=roe___@216-164-160-36.c3-0.eas-ubr10.atw-eas.pa.static.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:32] hi all, does anybody have had issues installing cupsys [05:32] installing/upgrading cupsys [05:33] also issues while upgrading apt, aptitude and its brethen [05:33] i think someone else had that problem [05:34] pwnguin: I made a bug about it Bug #130014 [05:34] Launchpad bug 130014 in cupsys "[Gutsy] Unable to upgrade or reinstall cupsys after trying to upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130014 [05:34] i dont actually own a printer, though [05:35] pwnguin: same here, don't have a printer atm, but that doesn't mean I can't install the printer package [05:35] :) [05:35] pwnguin: btw have u seen this while updating/upgrading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32878/ [05:36] that's about apt, aptitude stuff not updating-upgrading right [05:37] im not sure how stuff hits ftps [05:37] but it may be the case that there's some version depenenices that aren't resolved currently [05:37] id say wait a few hours and see if it changes [05:38] pwnguin: thought the same too, but this has now been un-resolved for over a day now :( [05:38] ubotu ftbs [05:38]