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| bashelier | @schedule Paris | 02:21 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Europe/Paris: 07 Aug 17:00: Kernel Team | 08 Aug 14:00: Edubuntu | 09 Aug 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Aug 06:00: MOTU Team | 11 Aug 19:00: Xubuntu Developers | 14 Aug 17:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 02:21 |
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| fernando | @schedule Sao_Paulo | 03:00 |
| ubotu | Schedule for America/Sao_Paulo: 07 Aug 12:00: Kernel Team | 08 Aug 09:00: Edubuntu | 09 Aug 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Aug 01:00: MOTU Team | 11 Aug 14:00: Xubuntu Developers | 14 Aug 12:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 03:00 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Current meeting: Kernel Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 08 Aug 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 09 Aug 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Aug 04:00 UTC: MOTU Team | 11 Aug 17:00 UTC: Xubuntu Developers | 14 Aug 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | ||
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| BenC | hello everyone | 05:04 |
| BenC | So this is the kernel team meeting | 05:05 |
| BenC | Information on the Ubuntu kernel team can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam, and the agenda (needs updating) is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 05:05 |
| BenC | We'll use last meeting as a template | 05:06 |
| BenC | amitk__, rtg_, pkl_: ping | 05:06 |
| rtg_ | pong | 05:06 |
| pkl_ | pong | 05:06 |
| amitk__ | pong | 05:06 |
| pkl_ | kyle not around? | 05:06 |
| BenC | Checking on that | 05:07 |
| BenC | So we'll just go down the list for now | 05:07 |
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| BenC | amitk__: So what's on your plate? | 05:09 |
| amitk__ | 2d DRM drivers for UME | 05:09 |
| amitk__ | thermal optimsation patches from Intel - again for UME | 05:10 |
| amitk__ | THE END. | 05:10 |
| BenC | Are you ok with the changes needed to get DRM in lum and disabled in linux-source? | 05:10 |
| BenC | for lpia that is | 05:10 |
| amitk__ | BenC: yes i am. I will submit a patch for review | 05:11 |
| amitk__ | are we switching MIDs to the lpia arch rightaway? | 05:11 |
| BenC | Might be a better question for ubuntu-mobile :) | 05:12 |
| amitk__ | I though we were still sticking with the UME flavour of i386 for the time-being | 05:12 |
| amitk__ | ok | 05:12 |
| BenC | amitk__: Any progress or updates for laptop testing? | 05:12 |
| amitk__ | unfortunately not. I have updated some of the tests. I hope to find some time towards the end of the week | 05:14 |
| BenC | Ok, definitely want to get that moving with tribe-4 coming out Thu | 05:15 |
| BenC | let me know if we need to offset some of this effort | 05:15 |
| amitk__ | ok | 05:15 |
| BenC | amitk__: thanks for the updates | 05:15 |
| BenC | pkl_: how's things coming along with you? | 05:16 |
| pkl_ | Very slow. Still stuck doing the writeSupportForNTFS stuff | 05:16 |
| pkl_ | Mainly all packaging based, which means it's taking me a long time because I'm completely unfamiliar with it. | 05:17 |
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| pkl_ | Hoped to have had it finished last week. I currently anticipate today. | 05:18 |
| BenC | pkl_: do you have a packaging mentor? | 05:18 |
| pkl_ | No. | 05:18 |
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| BenC | cjwatson: ah, perfect timing...do you know who would be best to contact about mentoring pkl for packaging ntfs-write stuff? | 05:18 |
| pkl_ | It should be mainly finished now. | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | BenC: probably me TBH | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | I've already done some bits around the side there | 05:19 |
| BenC | ok | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | I extend a standing offer to anyone on the kernel team to review and sponsor userspace bits for them, if you can't find anyone else | 05:20 |
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| kylem | i can help... | 05:20 |
| BenC | I'm more than willing myself, just depends on the TZ overlap, or just waiting | 05:20 |
| BenC | pkl_: so probably just an email to kernel-team@ once the packages are ready, and we'll definitely check it over | 05:21 |
| cjwatson | cc me if you want me to look at it, as I don't read kernel-team@ regularly | 05:21 |
| BenC | pkl_: How goes things with virtualization? Any time to test xen yet? | 05:22 |
| pkl_ | Not yet. | 05:22 |
| BenC | zul_: anything to add on xen? | 05:22 |
| BenC | so far, I've yet to hear of a real live test | 05:23 |
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| zul_ | BenC: yeah I have an update this week, seems to work fine for me | 05:23 |
| BenC | so you're running dom0 and domU from our image with no problems? | 05:23 |
| zul_ | yep | 05:24 |
| zul_ | no problems now at least | 05:24 |
| BenC | any chance you've checked on the amd64 build failure? | 05:24 |
| zul_ | from today? | 05:24 |
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| zul_ | oh the kernel side, not yet | 05:25 |
| zul_ | will do so tonight | 05:25 |
| zul_ | but Im pretty sure my new patch will fix it | 05:25 |
| BenC | zul_: from when we tried a week or so ago | 05:25 |
| BenC | ok | 05:25 |
| BenC | pkl_, zul_: thanks | 05:25 |
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| BenC | rtg_: So how's your work load going, or should I just call you dell-man? :) | 05:26 |
| rtg_ | dell-man is fine with me :) | 05:26 |
| rtg_ | I'm working on the Dell recovery stuff http://linux.dell.com/dru/index.php a little bit. | 05:27 |
| rtg_ | Also working through the list of Dell related bugs. | 05:27 |
| rtg_ | Its ever so much easier when you have the hardware. | 05:27 |
| rtg_ | I need to start working on Gutsy wireless bugs pretty soon. | 05:27 |
| BenC | ok, that last response answered my question :) | 05:28 |
| rtg_ | So, my plate is full for the foreseeable future. | 05:28 |
| BenC | Any bugs you're aware of with wireless? | 05:28 |
| rtg_ | I've seen several, but have not looked closely at any yet. | 05:28 |
| rtg_ | Some of them are probably unfixable, like bcm43xx stuff. | 05:29 |
| rtg_ | There is a lot of churn in the wireless-dev tree. | 05:29 |
| BenC | Anything we might want to pull in for gutsy? | 05:30 |
| rtg_ | Linville has made some interesting decisions w/regard to soft mac. | 05:30 |
| BenC | One thing we may want to consider now is that we may want a newer mac80211 than what's in our stock 2.6.22 kernel | 05:30 |
| rtg_ | I couldn't say for sure how it might affect Gutsy. | 05:30 |
| zul_ | BenC: I have some santa rosa ids sitting in my git tree that ill push soon | 05:30 |
| rtg_ | It will take some research. | 05:31 |
| BenC | zul_: pass those through kyle, please | 05:31 |
| zul_ | ok | 05:31 |
| rtg_ | Thats it from me. | 05:31 |
| BenC | rtg_: Ok, definitely check into mac80211 from wireless-dev and possibly some of the wireless-dev mac80211 converted drivers for lum | 05:31 |
| rtg_ | Will do. | 05:32 |
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| BenC | there are some other drivers that we may need newer mac80211 for, specifically iwlwifi | 05:32 |
| BenC | rtg_: ok, thanks | 05:32 |
| BenC | kylem: so finally back from your forced extended trip to ubuntulive? :) | 05:32 |
| kylem | heh. | 05:33 |
| kylem | getting home was expensive. :/ | 05:33 |
| BenC | kylem: so how's things with your work load? | 05:34 |
| kylem | anyway, i've been trying to plough through some of the untriaged bugs reported by the intel qa people. | 05:34 |
| BenC | right, that looked like a pretty tedious list | 05:34 |
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| kylem | other than that, i've been getting a bugfix xf86-video-intel release ready for gutsy. | 05:35 |
| BenC | kylem: what about general Intel enablement...are we good with that for gutsy, and just need to address bugs? | 05:35 |
| kylem | because the current git head has a pile of changes we don't want, but also a lot of bugfixes we need | 05:35 |
| BenC | other than the iwlwifi bug fixes that is | 05:35 |
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| kylem | there's two patches coming this week for iwlwifi that will bring our 0.0.42 to 1.0.0, which should be good to go for gutsy for 4965. | 05:36 |
| kylem | their focus has been enabling 4965, so we're going to need to stick with ipw3945 for gutsy. | 05:36 |
| BenC | kylem: I assume 1.0.0 means they will have certified it? | 05:36 |
| kylem | BenC, indeed. | 05:36 |
| BenC | excellent | 05:37 |
| kylem | lastly i've been picking through some alsa patches from 2.6.23-rc2 to see what is relevant for enablement on gutsy. | 05:37 |
| kylem | er, second to lastly | 05:37 |
| kylem | there's also a bit more stuff going on with the e1000 drivers that i've been picking at but haven't had time to sit down and beat at yet | 05:37 |
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| BenC | kylem: Oh, TheMuso is only handling alsa userspace, so you're still the go-to-guy for kernel side :) | 05:37 |
| kylem | it seems intel has released some new e100 chipsets which are a e1000 mac, with a 10/100 phy, so we need the new driver for them (even though they're really only 10/100.) | 05:38 |
| BenC | kylem: Ok..perhaps look into updating feisty lbm too then | 05:39 |
| kylem | yes, it will likely become relevant to tim at some point in the near future. | 05:39 |
| BenC | kylem: great, thanks | 05:40 |
| rtg_ | kylem: everything I have from Dell works over ethernet. | 05:40 |
| kylem | rtg_, for now... | 05:41 |
| BenC | hopefully those new macs wont become relevant till gutsy is viable as an option | 05:41 |
| BenC | but we can update lbm in feisty without too much worry, restricting to just the PCI ids needed | 05:41 |
| kylem | dell is already shipping a laptop with it, i imagine it's only a matter of time until they want linux on it. | 05:41 |
| rtg_ | kylem: which one ? Maybe I can get them to send it to me. | 05:42 |
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| kylem | dunno, i'll dig out the pci id later. | 05:42 |
| kylem | it's in one of the models of dell vostro. | 05:42 |
| kylem | the last thing i've been mucking with is hrtimers for x86-64 which we probably can't ship in gutsy; kind of a shame but c'est la vie. | 05:43 |
| BenC | Any points from community folks? | 05:43 |
| zul | no for me | 05:44 |
| kylem | fedora is going to be shipping it though, so we'll be behind them on power saving on amd64 :\ | 05:44 |
| BenC | kylem: fortunately, most people who want decent desktop on x86_64 use 32-bit anyway, it seems | 05:44 |
| BenC | at least I do | 05:44 |
| kylem | feh. | 05:45 |
| BenC | Can't have my youtube on 64-bit without jumping through hurdles | 05:45 |
| kylem | gnash does youtube quite nicely these days. | 05:45 |
| kylem | ;-) | 05:45 |
| BenC | ah, haven't tested that yet :) | 05:45 |
| zul | slacker :) | 05:45 |
| BenC | but then there's wine and win32 codecs | 05:46 |
| rtg_ | BenC: whats going on with the Turion boot problem? | 05:46 |
| BenC | rtg_: I didn't get CPU ids in time for an upload by kyle | 05:46 |
| BenC | but "nolapic_timer nohz=off" is a decent work around | 05:47 |
| BenC | we should get that added to the tribe-4 release notes | 05:47 |
| BenC | So, we're starting to get down to the crunch in our cycle...less development and more bug work | 05:48 |
| BenC | feature freeze approaches, kernel freeze shortly after | 05:48 |
| BenC | When that starts to settle, it's a good time to start thinking about next UDS and gutsy+1 | 05:49 |
| cjwatson | I don't know if it came up before I joined, but has work for 6.06.2 been parcelled out? | 05:49 |
| BenC | Ah, right, was on my mind earlier, but forgot to add it to the agenda | 05:50 |
| cjwatson | a bunch of stuff is still just assigned to the team | 05:50 |
| BenC | I've got the list of drivers to work on, and most likely I'll be handling most of it | 05:50 |
| BenC | cjwatson: I suspect I should contact heno to get testing prior to upload? | 05:51 |
| cjwatson | yes, we'll need to organise something based on what hardware is available | 05:52 |
| BenC | Hopefully I can get Montreal support and elmo to help with the testing | 05:52 |
| BenC | Get a modified CD image up | 05:52 |
| cjwatson | heno is a good contact to start with, and if anyone else has hardware related to any of those bugs I recommend making sure that you have a 6.06.1 install on it somewhere if possible | 05:52 |
| cjwatson | yep, I'll be preparing proposed CD images | 05:53 |
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| BenC | I'll get you the kernel images then | 05:53 |
| BenC | Any last comments? | 05:55 |
| kylem | moo. | 05:55 |
| zul | baaah | 05:55 |
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| Hobbsee | BenC: ni! | 05:56 |
| BenC | Alright then, thanks everyone | 05:56 |
| BenC | meeting adjourned | 05:56 |
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