[06:07] <bicchi> I am thinking of getting a Samsung q1 ultra. What works and does not working from gutsy? I really do not want to waste 1000.00 bucks and have to install windows on top of it.
[06:08] <bicchi> or perhaps someone can advise on the one that works the best with ubuntu.
[01:22] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Good morning! Had a good time riding?
[01:22] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: yes, it was great, thanks.
[01:25] <agoliveira> Cool. I would like to ask you if you have any idea what we can do to better wync our repository with Intel's code. We are having problems with the iamges generated not working well and, according to Rusty, this happens because our packages are outdated.
[01:26] <agoliveira> s/wync/sync
[01:26] <agoliveira> s/iamges/images - looks like I'm a bit dyslexic this morning :)
[01:30] <Mithrandir> in general, I try to upload them fairly often and I have asked Intel to tell me if there's anything in particular they want shoved in "right now".
[01:35] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Yes I know but looks like we are still having problems in this area as the images generated are pretty broken for what we have seen. I was told by Matt to investigate this as he have being trying to use the images generated without much sucess. What do you think if we talk to the intel guys later and try to stablish some sort of "scheduled" syncs like, only sync in batches when the resulting image will not break badly o
[01:35] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: you broke off after "break badly"
[01:36] <agoliveira> ... or something like that?
[02:34] <Mithrandir> agoliveira_brb: to what degree have you gotten your hildonising patches accepted upstream?
[02:37] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: I didn't do any of that kind. I just started the process of hildonizing.
[02:38] <guardian> whtat's the input method framework for ubuntu mobile ? hildon ? scim ? uim ? other ?
[02:39] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: I was about to start with Claws but I was contacted by a Intel developer who has already started so I let him continue and I'm going for Pimlico now.
[02:41] <Mithrandir> pimlico is mostly hildonised already, though.  You should really start by getting in touch with upstream first to avoid duplication of work.
[02:43] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: I know about Pimlico's status. I'm talking about to create the appropriate compilation and packaging flags so we can have a ume package with our version of hildon as interface.
[02:43] <Mithrandir> sure, but make sure to push that upstream as well, since pimlico upstream happens to be the people maintaining it in Debian as well, and keeping the delta small is good.
[02:44] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Sure. I'm aware of that.
[03:20] <mdz> Mithrandir: mobile-player is installed, but doesn't run yet...looks like we need python-hildondesktop in gutsy?
[03:21] <Mithrandir> hm, does it crash for you?  IIRC, it starts for me, but it's mostly just a framework at this point.
[03:22] <mdz> Mithrandir: ImportError: No module named hildon
[03:22] <Mithrandir> ok, then it's needed. :-)
[03:22] <mdz> Mithrandir: I see it in bzr; has it been uploaded yet?
[03:24] <Mithrandir> doesn't look like it.
[03:30] <mdz> the browser seems to work fine if started from the command line, but the button in the flash UI does nothing
[05:16] <amitk__> Mithrandir, agoliveira_lunch: Are there plans to still stick with UME flavour for i386? Or switch to lpia arch ASAP?
[05:17] <amitk__> robr_, CharliefJohnson, jacob-laptop: ^^^^^^
[05:18] <Mithrandir> amitk__: unsure, mail the list?
[05:19] <jacob-laptop> amitk__: hi
[05:19] <amitk__> jacob-laptop: hi
[05:19] <jacob-laptop> amitk__: what is the difference in lpia and ume in those kernel configs?
[05:21] <amitk__> jacob-laptop: Currently lpia arch just copied some config file (don't know which). But the ume Kconfig will be copied to lpia once I get around to it
[05:22] <amitk__> jacob-laptop: real question is - Do we need to keep i386-based UME config around?
[05:22] <jacob-laptop> amitk__: yes, that is my question too
[05:23] <amitk__> jacob-laptop: could you ask rusty, rob, charlie and the rest if they see any need for it. I will post an email to the ML
[05:25] <jacob-laptop> amitk__: ok, i thought that was your choice of how to package and build them
[05:27] <amitk__> jacob-laptop: there could be other reasons. e.g. I am not sure if binaries created for lpia are 100% compatible with i386. So we might want to keep it for developers who do not have lpia-based HW
[05:29] <jacob-laptop> amitk__: so are you thinking about lpia specific gcc option that may be availble in the future? lpia does have smaller instruction set.
[05:30] <amitk__> jacob-laptop: yes
[05:32] <jacob-laptop> amitk__: so for lpia, are there any other configuration difference (in linux-source) beyond the kernel config file?
[05:32] <amitk__> I don't expect there to be any differences. I was going to just copy the ume config to lpia
[05:36] <jacob-laptop> amitk__: got it. switching topic to poulsbo 2d gfx driver, what do u mean by including whole tree?
[05:37] <jacob-laptop> amitk__: i thought it has to use the source tree in lum 
[05:39] <amitk__> jacob-laptop: considering that none of the drivers except poulsbo are useful on lpia, I was just wondering if it was overkill
[05:41] <jacob-laptop> amitk__: you meant single out a lpia flavor of lum for poulsbo? i think it is worth doing, this is a new processor/chipset family
[05:44] <amitk__> jacob-laptop: the poulsbo DRM driver is definitely going into it's own separate flavour for LUM. I was only wondering if it would be possible to prune the non-poulsbo stuff from your git tree
[05:46] <jacob-laptop> amitk__: i don't know, i did not develop the driver. ultimately we have to test it on the HW to decide. 
[06:08] <robr> agoliveira: you're lucky it wasn't an install image created by image-creator and accidentally hit the ENTER key after it booterd ;-)
[06:09] <agoliveira> robr: It *was* an install image :) Luckely I figured that out quickly and turned it off.
[06:09] <robr> *d'oh!*
[06:56] <doko> # Use soft-float and thumb mode if it is enabled.
[06:56] <doko> ifneq (,$(findstring thumb,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS)))
[06:56] <doko>         CFLAGS += -mthumb
[06:56] <doko> endif
[06:56] <doko> is this a nokia invention?
[06:57] <doko> without garding the cpu ...
[07:10] <Mithrandir> doko: yes, it is.
[07:10] <Mithrandir> is it a problem?
[07:11] <doko> Mithrandir: no, just wondering
[08:51] <bicchi> I would like to get a Samsung Q1, any comments on what features will I be missing if i run ubuntu on it?
[10:39] <bfiller> does anyone know if the hildon-desktop that is installed with image-creator is build from trunk or ubutunu branch?
[10:40] <bfiller> I want to make mods but not sure where to pull from..
[11:03] <rusty> bfiller, IIRC it was built off the ubuntu branch
[11:03] <bfiller> thanks, that's what I thought
[11:05] <bfiller> strange thing is when I built it from ubuntu branch and installed the deb packages in my chroot, the drop down menu at far left is all screwed up.
[11:05] <bfiller> and keyboard status bar plugin and another plugin show up
[11:05] <bfiller> these don't appear after image-creator install