[12:01] <zitner> How do I do that, I know that sounds stupid?
[12:01] <txoof> gordonjcp: everybody.
[12:01] <tobyr> Click the 'System' text at the top left
[12:01] <MasterShrek> ur kidding right zitner /
[12:01] <gordonjcp> txoof: but only root can write it, yeah?
[12:01] <tobyr> Then roll over preferences, and then click 'Session'
[12:01] <AlexUbuntuBcn> i download the pidgin from getdeb and it works perfect
[12:01] <zitner> I'm new to linux, sorry.
[12:01] <tobyr> Same as windows Zitner
[12:01] <gordonjcp> txoof: what happens when you say "ps aux | grep httpd" ?
[12:01] <tobyr> Like how you'd use the Start menu
[12:01] <CheeseGardener> mastershrek, can I send you an IM?
[12:01] <txoof> gordonjcp: 755 on the root.
[12:01] <gordonjcp> txoof: in particular, what does the user column say?
[12:01] <davetarmac> I've done a tar xvzf /path/to/file.tar.gz > logfile.txt but when I try to go to one of the files listed in the log, it is not there
[12:01] <phenom> Enabling hyper threading technology.. Worth the "security" risk? :) All lit I read has a do it at your own risk clause in it :/
[12:01] <davetarmac> does anyone have any dieas?
[12:01] <davetarmac> *ideas?
[12:02] <tobyr> ROFL thanks so much! Sudo Make Install worked :D
[12:02] <tobyr> Whoa, Pigdin looks real nice
[12:02] <tobyr> Better than aMSN
[12:03] <frostburn> indeed.
[12:03] <Paddy_EIRE> tobyr: it is, and there are themes available
[12:03] <Zylogue> greetings, all.
[12:03] <txoof> gordonjcp: I'm going to be installing gallery2 and there needs to be some read/write permisions; should I change the ownership to apache to ensure that this will work out?
[12:03] <tobyr> aMSN always spoiled Ubuntu for me
[12:03] <tobyr> Or Linux in general
[12:03] <zitner> Ok, so I'm a retard to linux, where would Beryl be located, and yes I'm serious?
[12:03] <tobyr> Cos its ugggggggggggglee
[12:03] <xerawx_> woohoo, i'm online wirelessly on my powerbook :D
[12:03] <tobyr> Zitner
[12:03] <Paddy_EIRE> tobyr: never really used it
[12:03] <obf213> hey my suspend just stopped working. and i havent changed any settings.
[12:03] <tobyr> Like the start menu in Windows
[12:03] <Zylogue> I'm looking for instrucitons on how to use live CD mounting /home to a USB key
[12:03] <tobyr> Click System in the Top Left
[12:03] <tobyr> then roll over Preferences, then Session
[12:03] <Paddy_EIRE> tobyr: even on gnome I would use Kopete
[12:04] <zitner> I did that.
[12:04] <tobyr> never used Kopete
[12:04] <zitner> Um, sorry no.
[12:04] <tobyr> Right do you see the 'startup programs' tab?
[12:04] <obf213> i turned my power options to blank screen on close, while i was dling torrents, then when i tried to suspend again it hangs
[12:04] <phenom> Zitner: whereis beryl?
[12:04] <zitner> yea
[12:04] <astro76> Zylogue, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[12:04] <tobyr> Ok Zitner
[12:04] <tobyr> Click the 'new' button on the right
[12:04] <obf213> i get these flashy grey rectangles on a black screen
[12:04] <zitner> I did
[12:04] <tobyr> Type 'Beryl' as name
[12:04] <zitner> I did
[12:04] <Zylogue> astro76: Thanks.  I'll look into it..
[12:05] <tobyr> and 'beryl-manager' as the command
[12:05] <drewby> Okay
[12:05] <tobyr> That's all you need matey
[12:05] <tobyr> Then click ok
[12:05] <drewby> How do I open ports regarding my firewall
[12:05] <tobyr> And scroll down that list and maek sure its ticked
[12:05] <tobyr> Simple as that, it's very much like MSconfig if you've used that in Windwos
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one gwget rocks! although I would love a desktop widget for it
[12:05] <Moreno> hola
[12:06] <tobyr> Is that ok zitner
[12:06] <tobyr> ?
[12:06] <sb73542> hello all
[12:06] <astro76> drewby, if you've never set it though everything will be open, your sendmail problem is probably something else
[12:06] <Xsss4hell> Howto install Ubuntu from CD?
[12:06] <AlexUbuntuBcn> hola Moreno
[12:06] <Xsss4hell> ohhh
[12:06] <Xsss4hell>  I mean USB STICK
[12:06] <zitner> Oh, ok so everythings close to windows, I'm sorry.  I'm starting to know alot of stuff, but there's little things that yes, confuse me.
[12:06] <Moreno> hola que tal
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> !es | Moreno
[12:06] <astro76> drewby, but FYI you can use firestarter
[12:06] <ubotu> Moreno: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:06] <phenom> drewby: unproductive adding rules yourself, use $ sudo aptitude firestarter
[12:06] <sb73542> anyone know how to make Xorg always run with nice level -10 ?
[12:06] <zitner> Thank you though, Tob.
[12:06] <Moreno> ah ok grs
[12:06] <phenom> blah, adding rules to iptables manually is unproductive..
[12:06] <tobyr> Zitner: So you have Beryl-Manager sorted now?
[12:06] <Xsss4hell> Howto install Ubuntu from USB-STICK? it's a USB2.0 Hi-Speed 4gb stick
[12:06] <drewby> astro76:
[12:06] <zitner> Yea, thank you.
[12:07] <AlexUbuntuBcn> Moreno, este canal es el general, mayormente son de habla inglesa, tienes el canal ubuntu-es que es de habla hispana y tendras mas facilidades
[12:07] <Moreno> grs alex
[12:07] <drewby> astro76: Thanks for the info.  Firestarter doesn't seem to do anything other than start up the firewall.
[12:07] <jrib> !install > Xsss4hell (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:07] <frostburn> Xsss4hell, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[12:07] <drewby> astro76:  Maybe my version is messed.  Do you have any other ideas what could be causing sendmail problem?
[12:07] <Xsss4hell> I am a newbe
[12:08] <casperzshado> MasterShrek: how does that sudo get apt go again?
[12:08] <phenom> So noone here has enabled hyperthreading technology on ubuntu? :)
[12:08] <AlexUbuntuBcn> aun asi, Moreno, si tenias alguna duda, expresala e intentare ayudarte, sino en ubuntu-es seguro pueden ayudarte
[12:08] <zeldafan500> this server sucks
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> oddly beyl on linux mint is seriously stable I have had no crashes of firefox yet nor any need to restart x due to everything freezing....even frostwire displays perfectly and I have an ati card :P
[12:08] <MasterShrek> sudo apt-get --reinstall gdm
[12:08] <MasterShrek> casperzshado, ^^
[12:08] <astro76> !es | AlexUbuntuBcn
[12:08] <Xsss4hell> I want to install GUTSY TRIBE 3 from USB-Stick, is it the same steps as in the tutorial???
[12:08] <ubotu> AlexUbuntuBcn: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:09] <MasterShrek> Paddy_EIRE, is there a 64 bit version of mint?
[12:09] <k2o3> hello
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> MasterShrek: I dont know but why would you want 64bit
[12:09] <MasterShrek> why wouldnt i?
[12:09] <punzas> can anyone recomm. a dvd/iso burning application for gnome, exceept for gnome cd/dvd creator?
[12:09] <obf213> can anyone help me figure out how my suspend got messed up
[12:09] <MasterShrek> punzas, use k3b it works fine under gnome
[12:09] <Level15> hey
[12:09] <phenom> k3b: aye
[12:09] <Level15> is this ubuntu users channel or ubuntu devels?
[12:10] <obf213> users
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> MasterShrek: it aint ready..? and its a hassle to sort out even simple things
[12:10] <zeldafan500> #freenode_sucks
[12:10] <MasterShrek> i love every bit of 64 bit oses
[12:10] <astro76> punzas, k3b is still most complete, brasero is the up-and-coming gnome app though
[12:10] <punzas> MasterShrek: will k3b install lots of KDE stuff?
[12:10] <MasterShrek> punzas, maybe
[12:10] <Xoris> zeldafan500, then leave...?
[12:10] <defcon> anyone know how to mount a live cd on ubuntu
[12:10] <frostburn> who's having compatibility issues with 64bit?
[12:10] <defcon> I need to extract some things
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> MasterShrek: Im using a 64bit lapto and would not dream of using a 64bit distro of anykind
[12:10] <Level15> frostburn: define compatibility issues
[12:11] <astro76> punzas, just a couple of libs probably
[12:11] <MasterShrek> Paddy_EIRE, thats cuz ur a noob, 64 bit oses run great
[12:11] <Xsss4hell> Howto install GUTSY TRIBE 3 from USB-Stick to HD? Is it the same as in the tutrial, or simpler?
[12:11] <MasterShrek> the only thing that doesnt is like flash, but theres workarounds
[12:11] <frostburn> Level15, someone said it wasn't ready, i'm curious as to why
[12:11] <PriceChild> !noob | MasterShrek
[12:11] <ubotu> MasterShrek: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:11] <Kr00l> I know this isn't the channel to sell anything. But I'm going to sell my gaming computer and get a dedicated ubuntu desktop machine. Does anyone have any suggestions for a tv tuner that will work with ubuntu?
[12:11] <PriceChild> !gutsy | Xsss4hell
[12:11] <ubotu> Xsss4hell: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> MasterShrek: noob... I dont think so but hey knock yourself out
[12:11] <MasterShrek> then kick me, i dont care, someones gonna sit here and knock a 64 bit os
[12:11] <roundeye> dude wheres my root
[12:11] <Level15> frostburn: well, you'll have to do some tricks to get flash, java plugin, skype, opera, netscape and other propietary software
[12:11] <PriceChild> !sudo | roundeye
[12:11] <ubotu> roundeye: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:12] <Xsss4hell> thank you ubotu
[12:12] <roundeye> sudo your mom
[12:12] <Level15> frostburn: but i'm running it here
[12:12] <frostburn> Level15, as am i
[12:12] <MasterShrek> frostburn, it runs fine for me
[12:12] <drewby> Yay
[12:12] <MasterShrek> nspluginwrapper for flash
[12:12] <zeldafan500> this OS sucks this server sucks you suck
[12:12] <drewby> it was the firewall that was the problem
[12:12] <huron> hi all, need help with installing ubuntu from HD(NOT CDROM). Is this the right place to discuss?
[12:12] <Xoris> zeldafan500: then leave (2nd time)
[12:12] <drewby> firestarter took care of it
[12:12] <astro76> !offtopic | zeldafan500
[12:12] <ubotu> zeldafan500: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:12] <frostburn> Kr00l, browse http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1 for good tuners
[12:12] <drewby> Thanks people!
[12:13] <astro76> drewby, glad you figured it out ;)
[12:13] <Kr00l> frostburn, what is myth tv?
[12:13] <PriceChild> Kr00l, you'll find that its chipsets that matter... not manufacturers so be careful as chipsets may change :)
[12:13] <zeldafan500> sucks
[12:13] <phenom> die
[12:13] <frostburn> Kr00l, it's like an open source tivo project, they have good links to what hardware can be used for tuners
[12:14] <Xoris> !tv
[12:14] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[12:14] <sb73542> anyone know how to change the priority of xorg so it always starts with nicelevel -10 ?
[12:15] <Xoris> sb73542: no, i don't remember. but it can be configured from debconf... i just don't remember "debconf what"
[12:15] <sb73542> oh yeah?  debconf...  i'll google it
[12:15] <Xoris> sb73542: i don't think it's a good idea, anyway, for what it's worth
[12:15] <tobyr> This is a really stupid question
[12:15] <tobyr> But is there an easy way to create shortcuts to programs?
[12:15] <sb73542> Xoris: well, my computer is old, and it doesnt work well without renicing Xorg
[12:16] <txoof> I have an existing mysql database on a drive, can I simply move it into the sql directory?
[12:16] <frostburn> tobyr, right click anywhere on the desktop, create launcher
[12:16] <tobyr> Doh
[12:16] <tobyr> Told you
[12:16] <Xoris> sb73542: i see, but i think you're quite likely to run into lock-ups and such...
[12:16] <sb73542> huh, i wouldnt have thought that, you might be right tho
[12:16] <huron> ok anyone, installing from initrd-hdmedia.gz ramdisk. It is able to find the iso image and mounts it but if i check the intergrity of the image, it is also ok. The error I get is unable to copy from iso image
[12:17] <jr> Hi
[12:17] <phenom> tobyr: No stupid question, just unanswered ones. And really frustrating unanswered ones.
[12:17] <jr> does any1 know of a free auto typer for linux?
[12:17] <Xoris> sb73542: and anyway, if you make xorg run at a high priority, then xorg's *clients* will be slower. which might end up in the opposite effect from what you want
[12:17] <phenom> :)
[12:17] <jr> Running: Ubuntu 7.04 fiesty
[12:17] <MasterShrek> huron, is it mounting your hd in read-only mode?
[12:17] <huron> no idea
[12:17] <james296> has anyone been able to find a fix for the Sound Recorder not recording voice in Feisty Fawn?
[12:17] <huron> i didn't check that.
[12:17] <sb73542> some distros do set it to -10 by default, I think mandriva does or did
[12:17] <jr> does any1 know of a free auto typer for linux?
[12:17] <Xoris> sb73542: i think it might be "debconf xorg-common"
[12:17] <Xoris> sb73542: or x11-common
[12:18] <astro76> jr, what do you mean by auto-typer?
[12:18] <tobyr> Very true phenom
[12:18] <Xoris> sb73542: well, giving it a try won't hurt
[12:18] <tobyr> I now need to make my Ubuntu look pretty
[12:18] <tobyr> And I'm not doing very well :D
[12:18] <jr> astro76, like u press CRTL+F1 and it types out something
[12:18] <james296> I wanna be able to use Sound Recorder
[12:18] <james296> how can I do that
[12:19] <jr> astro76, for example u press Crtl+F1 and it types, http://ubuntu.com or something
[12:19] <bannerman> I have a software raid question for a small server. Should I create two partitions on each physical disk and two seperate raids (one for system, one for data) or fill each disk with one partition and create the raid that way?
[12:19] <Gil_mnogueira> hi all. when I use the "su" command in the console I can't write the password (I press the keys but nothing happens...) what should I do? PS: sorry for the english xD
[12:19] <Xoris> !sudo > Gil_mnogueira
[12:19] <|thunder> !bt8x8
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bt8x8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <ys76> get yourself?
[12:19] <lt> hy, little problem
[12:19] <|thunder> !bt878
[12:19] <ys76> get yourself?
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bt878 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <Xoris> Gil_mnogueira: and anyway, you're not *supposed* to see the password...
[12:19] <jr> Gil_mnogueira,  your not supposed to see the password lol
[12:19] <jr> Gil_mnogueira,  security reasons
[12:19] <lt> ive only sound on the right channel (headphones)
[12:19] <teany> What is the password on the postgres server?
[12:19] <bitnissen> Gil_mnogueira: what's been said, and if you want to do su, then type sudo su
[12:20] <Xoris> bitnissen: why not "sudo -i"?
[12:20] <Gil_mnogueira> but when I press enter it gives me an error
[12:20] <huron> I went to a different console and checked the output of mount, the iso image is mounted under /cdrom and I was also able to mount a different partition so i think it is mounted rw
[12:20] <bitnissen> Xoris: ah, smart, didn't know that, does the same?
[12:20] <|thunder> or try sudo bash, lol
[12:20] <Gil_mnogueira> and I insert the right pass
[12:20] <bitnissen> haha
[12:20] <jr> Xoris,  hes talking about why he cant see what he types
[12:20] <jr> astro76,  zny idea?
[12:20] <jr> astro76,  any idea?
[12:20] <bitnissen> Xoris: oh, but sudo -i returns to users home-directory
[12:20] <bitnissen> that can be annoying
[12:21] <Xoris> bitnissen, annoying as it might be, it's actually a much better idea to have a "clean" root environment than keep the user's. and safer.
[12:21] <mildner>  there a german room
[12:21] <Xoris> bitnissen: "sudo su -" (note the dash) would achieve the same, but anyway why use two commands when you can use one
[12:21] <Rockinghorse> Gil_mnogueira which pwd are you using root or username?
[12:22] <wasambi> just upgraded from breezy to dapper.  what is the best way to make sure it intsalled ok before rebboting?
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> !de | mildner
[12:22] <Xoris> bitnissen: if you want something like "sudo su" (without the dash), try "sudo -s"
[12:22] <ubotu> mildner: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:22] <Rockinghorse> You use your regular user pw w/ sudo
[12:22] <bitnissen> Xoris: hm, lemme see
[12:22] <lt> there is only sound on the right channel,.
[12:22] <swatF1RESTORM> i'm having problems playing AVI's and I have the libdvdcss2 and w32codecs installed. Any ideas?
[12:22] <bitnissen> Xoris: sudo -s does the same thing, it also goes to home
[12:22] <mildner> what is the best Voip for Ubuntu?
[12:23] <Xoris> mildner: tried ekiga?
[12:23] <Paddy_EIRE> mildner: ekiga maybe
[12:23] <frostburn> ekiga is nice
[12:23] <bitnissen> Xoris: thing is, it's nice when I've cd'et through a whole lot of directories to simply do sudo su and stay where I am
[12:23] <Xoris> bitnissen: sure... uhm, i don't remember it doing that. i'm not on ubuntu right now, i thought it would stay in the current directory (at least with -s)
[12:23] <frostburn> other than nm-applet for gnome, are there any other nice gui's for openvpn?
[12:24] <nilesh21> i just configured my internet but what does sudo mean?
[12:24] <mildner> thanks
[12:24] <Xoris> !sudo > nilesh21
[12:24] <MasterShrek> bitnissen, mine stays there
[12:24] <bitnissen> Xoris: ah, you're right, it's just very confusing:
[12:24] <jr> does any1 know of a free auto typer for linux?
[12:24] <bitnissen> Xoris: in bash it still says ~
[12:24] <Rockinghorse> libxine-extracodecs
[12:24] <Rockinghorse> libmad0
[12:24] <bitnissen> instead of /home/username
[12:24] <Rockinghorse> are they in there too, swatF1RESTORM?
[12:24] <bitnissen> Xoris: confusing 'cus root is in fact not in his home directory...
[12:25] <MasterShrek> bitnissen, i switched to /usr then sudo su, and it stays in /usr
[12:25] <orange__> is the daemon tool for iso
[12:25] <PriceChild> !iso | orange__
[12:25] <ubotu> orange__: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:25] <Thatguy> My PC was fine, I restarted and was greeted with a message telling me my xserver crashed. I tried fixing but could not, so I swapped hard drives and tried installing fresh. While booting the live-cd I had the same problem not being able to start the xserver. WHats wrong? is it a hardware failure?
[12:25] <bitnissen> yea, you're right, but try cd to your home-directory, then sudo -s, it stays in the directory alright, but it shows it as roots home is your home
[12:25] <bitnissen> MasterShrek ^^
[12:26] <wers> how do I burn cd images with gnomebaker?
[12:26] <Xoris> bitnissen: i guess i never paid much attention to that
[12:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Thatguy: did the same live-cd boot before on the same hardware
[12:26] <Thatguy> yes
[12:26] <wers> the choices are only, "data dvd", data cd, and audio cd
[12:26] <MasterShrek> i dont see any problems bitnissen
[12:26] <bitnissen> Xoris: but thanks for the tip (:
[12:26] <bitnissen> MasterShrek: no problem, just slightly confusing
[12:26] <orange__> Can i run exe programs without reinstalling to wine?
[12:26] <MasterShrek> Thatguy, what kinda vid card?
[12:27] <Thatguy> mastershrek, via
[12:27] <bitnissen> MasterShrek: it's perfectly fine, but it's just confusing that the user who sudo'eds home-directory is shown as roots home-directory
[12:27] <wasambi> after upgrading, what is the best way to check installation before rebooting?
[12:27] <swatF1RESTORM> Rockinghorse: just installed them, but still a no go
[12:27] <MasterShrek> wasambi, reboot
[12:27] <daniel____> hi
[12:27] <wers> how do I burn a Live CD using GNOMEBaker? Do I choose the Data CD option?
[12:27] <Paddy_EIRE> wasambi: by rebooting
[12:27] <Xoris> wasambi, just hope. if APT didn't complain during the upgrade, it's a good sign.
[12:28] <Rockinghorse> do you have the mm plugins for your browser installed swatF1RESTORM?
[12:28] <astro76> wers, trying to burn an .iso?
[12:28] <roadkill> in terminal\ftp after i've logged into a site why wont dir show me any files/dir's i get a msg saying 200 port command successful, whats going on
[12:28] <wers> yep
[12:28] <MasterShrek> wers, install k3b, its nicer
[12:28] <daniel____> i've got a problem with my screen resolution. i'm using an ATI X1950Pro, driver is installed (fglxrinfo shows the correct stuff), but i can't use the resolutions set in xorg.conf
[12:28] <astro76> wers, right click on it in file manager and select burn to disc
[12:28] <Thatguy> so, any help?
[12:28] <wasambi> last time had some problem with x video of something and had to redo, don't want to do that again
[12:28] <Xoris> roadkill: uhm, try typing "passive" just after logging in to the server
[12:28] <bitnissen> wers: easiest in ubuntu is just clicking on the iso
[12:28] <Paddy_EIRE> wers: brasero is also really good
[12:28] <wers> okay.. I'll do the file manager trick
[12:28] <swatF1RESTORM> Rockinghorse: I believe so. I can view online content fine (with a few exceptions) but can't play this particular AVI file
[12:29] <phenom> thatguy: any x problems. I recommend installing sudo aptitude ddcprobe, and check your monitor settings are correct.
[12:29] <bitnissen> wers: then it should just ask you if you wannaburn the iso or something
[12:29] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys
[12:29] <pace_t_zulu> i've got trouble removing apache2
[12:29] <roadkill> xoris, works thanks, so whats the deal its default passice off?
[12:29] <pace_t_zulu> i remove it fromapt
[12:29] <roadkill> passive **
[12:29] <Paddy_EIRE> wers: right click .iso then choose write to cd
[12:29] <pace_t_zulu> i remove it from apt
[12:29] <wers> I chose the option, "write to disc"
[12:29] <pace_t_zulu> but i still have apache2 processes running
[12:29] <wers> will it burn an iso?
[12:29] <Paddy_EIRE> wers: yes
[12:29] <wers> okay
[12:29] <daniel____> my max resolution is 1280x1024 (which is not listed in xorg.conf)
[12:30] <Paddy_EIRE> wers: yep
[12:30] <casperzshado> my gdm isnt working it cant get to the login screen and ideas on how to fix it?
[12:30] <pace_t_zulu> anyone getting this?
[12:30] <Rockinghorse> I'm out of suggestions :)
[12:30] <MasterShrek> pace_t_zulu, reboot, they shold be gone
[12:30] <MasterShrek> or just kill them
[12:30] <MasterShrek> killall [process] 
[12:30] <swatF1RESTORM> Rockinghorse: thanks anyways =)
[12:30] <pace_t_zulu> no dice
[12:30] <pace_t_zulu> this is after numerous reboots
[12:30] <Thatguy> phenom, heres the funny thing though. Everything was fine, I restarted, had problems, swapped hard drives and instlled fresh, having same problems
[12:30] <wers> there it is.. it's already writing the image to the disc :)
[12:30] <CheeseGardener> i'm having trouble playing video.  Whenever I move the screen, the video sometimes cuts out, and I have the jiggle the screen till it works again.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[12:30] <phenom> Did you do an apt-get update lately?
[12:30] <alex__> can anyone here say me where i can locate the rc.inet1.conf file??
[12:30] <daniel____> the login screen seems to work at the correct resolution (1680x1050)
[12:31] <wers> I am trying alternatives to K3b because my burnt fedora live cds with k3b failed
[12:31] <MasterShrek> alex__, i woudl gues in /etc/init.d
[12:31] <phenom> If you had issues getting x to work in the first place, your bound to have issues if you update.
[12:31] <Rockinghorse> swatF1RESTORM any errors when installing the codecs?
[12:31] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: if your using mplayer choose xv as your video output
[12:31] <alex__> MasterShrek, i would geus that to ;:) but unlucky:)
[12:31] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:31] <pace_t_zulu> any ideas what is launching apache2?
[12:31] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: if you use any effects that is or do it anyway and see
[12:31] <swatF1RESTORM> Rockinghorse: not that I can remember. The ones you suggested didn't error while installing
[12:31] <bannerman> Is there a reason I can only create one partition in my new RAID5 device, while installing ubuntu?
[12:31] <sagarp> when i boot up, dmesg gives me errors about pnpbios...it recommends "pnpbios=off" and then i get stuff in dmseg like "adding info for No Bus:pnp0" ...some usb devices work, but others dont..what does it mean?
[12:31] <MasterShrek> pace_t_zulu, chec in /etc/init.d
[12:32] <Rockinghorse> where did you obtain the libxine-extracodecs package?
[12:32] <MasterShrek> alex__, /etc/init.d/networking'
[12:32] <MasterShrek> alex__, /etc/init.d/networking
[12:32] <CheeseGardener> Paddy, it where can I find the video out settings??????
[12:32] <alex__> MasterShrek, that maybe could be:p
[12:32] <swatF1RESTORM> I get the following error when trying to perform 'sudo apt-get update' : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:32] <swatF1RESTORM> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:32] <Thatguy> phenom, you talking to me?
[12:33] <daniel____> no ideas? :/
[12:33] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: right click the vid window and choose options
[12:33] <Xoris> swatF1RESTORM: you don't by any chance have Synaptic open?
[12:33] <alex__> MasterShrek, iam on my other distro now (main) so i will check it in few minutes:)
[12:33] <MasterShrek> swatF1RESTORM, make sure synaptic isnt open
[12:33] <phenom> Thatguy: sorry, my last comment was to you yes.
[12:33] <swatF1RESTORM> Xoris: no it isn't open atm
[12:33] <swatF1RESTORM> MasterShrek: not open atm
[12:34] <MasterShrek> swatF1RESTORM, do you have another apt-get process running?
[12:34] <MasterShrek> or a dpkg?
[12:34] <Xoris> swatF1RESTORM: any other APT program? try "ps aux | grep apt", see if there's something resembling an APT front-end open
[12:34] <phenom> I can't do an apt-get update on my debian box without it breaking my x :/
[12:34] <frostburn> swatF1RESTORM, ps -e|grep apt
[12:34] <CheeseGardener> I don't see options paddy.
[12:34] <CheeseGardener> RIght click the playing video window?  inside the video?
[12:34] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: yes
[12:34] <MasterShrek> phenom, update shouldnt mess with anything
[12:34] <pace_t_zulu> MasterShrek, should i just remove anything apache?
[12:34] <elbing> I can't write accented characters under wine, that keys appear dead. Any idea, please?
[12:34] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: are you using MPlayer...?
[12:34] <Thatguy> phenom, ok, well I didn't update. I had probs and then completely reinstalled, and I have have probs
[12:34] <CheeseGardener> Movie Player
[12:34] <swatF1RESTORM> frostburn:  3024 ?        00:00:00 apt
[12:34] <swatF1RESTORM>  3038 ?        00:00:00 apt-get
[12:34] <MasterShrek> yea i think so pace_t_zulu , or chmod 644
[12:35] <CheeseGardener> Is what I am using.  It comes with Ubuntu
[12:35] <MasterShrek> swatF1RESTORM, sudo killall apt-get
[12:35] <phenom> MasterShrek: Debian doesn't detect my monitor correctly, I have to fiddle with x everttime, Everytime I do update, It tries to reinstall the "new" drivers that don't work.
[12:35] <frostburn> swatF1RESTORM, or sudo kill 3024 3038
[12:35] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: oh, then I dont use that although its probably in the edit prefs or something
[12:35] <CheeseGardener> Oh ok.  Should I get mplayer?
[12:35] <Xoris> MasterShrek: erm, are you sure that's a good idea? perhaps it *is* doing something
[12:35] <wers> what packages do i install to enable mp3 burning in K3b?
[12:35] <MasterShrek> phenom, you can make a rule to not install the new drivers, im not sure how to do it tho
[12:36] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: far better player
[12:36] <Paradox34690> is anyone familiar with installing Ubuntu 7.04 on a Dell Inspiron 5150?
[12:36] <phenom> I know, its easier for me just to add the two lines to xorg.conf now that I know how :)
[12:36] <MasterShrek> Paradox34690, should be pretty easy on a dell
[12:36] <swatF1RESTORM> MasterShrek: that let me do the update thanks
[12:36] <swatF1RESTORM> frostburn: ty as well =)
[12:37] <phenom> Thatguy: I would still try the ddcprobe trick.
[12:37] <phenom> x is ofter misconfigured at install :|
[12:37] <gorrz> Paradox34690, whats the issue ?
[12:37] <Paradox34690> MasterShrek, you would think that... the LiveCD runs fine (with the exception the wireless doesn't work), but then when I do the install, X doesn't work and the system just stops
[12:37] <CheeseGardener> Paddy how do I set it as my default player?
[12:37] <MasterShrek> Paradox34690, what do u mean the system stops? like becomes totally unresponsive?
[12:38] <kitche> Paradox34690: because the livecd does X -configure pretty much while the isntalled system doesn't do that
[12:38] <Thatguy> phenom, could you pleae explain how that will help? will it tell me if it is a hardware problem?
[12:38] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: it should associate itself although if it does not the right click the file you are trying to play and choose the open with then mplayer
[12:38] <kitche> Paradox34690: at least not until you tell it to
[12:38] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: also one more thing....1sec
[12:38] <tobyr> Is it easy to customise the UI in Ubuntu/
[12:38] <tobyr> I want to get my OS looking pretty :D
[12:38] <jrib> !themes > tobyr (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:38] <Paradox34690> MasterShrek, something like that. It'll give me a message saying that x has some issue (don't ask, i already dumped freespire on it... I'll try ubuntu again later). and then it stops...
[12:39] <tobyr> WOOPS
[12:39] <tobyr> ta
[12:39] <roadkill> if i 'get' a file in terminal where dose it save?
[12:39] <tobyr> thanks
[12:39] <jrib> roadkill: how do you 'get' it?
[12:39] <bannerman> Am I only allowed one partition within my software raid5 device?
[12:39] <kitche> roadkill: where you executed the get
[12:39] <tobyr> !changethemes
[12:39] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[12:39] <roadkill> im using ftp
[12:39] <MasterShrek> Paradox34690, are you able to get to a console? (ctrl+alt+f1)
[12:39] <phenom> Thatguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:39] <roadkill> it saved some place
[12:40] <Xoris> roadkill: it saved it into your current directory, that is the directory mentioned right in your shell prompt
[12:40] <XLV> bannerman, no, as many as you can gave on any hdd
[12:40] <Paradox34690> Honestly MasterShrek, I don't know. I'm basically a Linux noob, so I don't know all the shortcut keys yet. I will try a reinstall later and keep that in mind.
[12:40] <XLV> bannerman, check lvm if you want to create lots of partitions
[12:40] <Xoris> roadkill: if it just has a tilde, then it's your home directory, i.e. /home/yourusername
[12:40] <jordan_> Hello, I have a web server with vsftpd and i use the FTP to upload junk into /var/www to go online - but its uploaded with no permissions (apache cannot read it, so it does not show up online).  How can I keep my /var/www directory open to all?
[12:40] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: also open 'Removable Drives and Media' select the Multimedia tab and change totem %m to mplayer
[12:40] <Paradox34690> I would MUCH rather Ubuntu than this freespire (free version of LinSpire... it's all KDE and i'm totally unfamiliar with that)
[12:41] <Piddy> |-) Gahh, tired. Cya tomorrow guys.
[12:41] <roadkill> its not here, but i gota an idea
[12:41] <kost_> hello guys
[12:41] <kost_> I have a big prob
[12:41] <XLV> jordan_, chmod a+rw directory
[12:41] <MasterShrek> Paradox34690, if you can get to a console, you probably just need to install the correct video driver
[12:41] <CheeseGardener> where is this tab?
[12:41] <jordan_> XLV - but when i upload new stuff it has no permissions
[12:41] <bannerman> XLV: If I choose "automatically partition the free space" during the ubuntu install it says "Failed to partition the selected disk" and "This probably happened because there are too many (primary) partitions in the partition table" but I don't have any other primary partitions.
[12:42] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: in removable drives and media
[12:42] <Paradox34690> MasterShrek: Interesting... I will have to try that... Thanks! I'll more than likely come back in later for some help :)
[12:42] <kost_> I boot my CD i downloaded from ubuntu.com and when i pess install select language, region $ time zone and writing language, in the partition manager I dont know what i should select etc
[12:42] <swatF1RESTORM> MasterShrek: Now i'm getting 'W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mx.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[12:42] <swatF1RESTORM> " any ideas?
[12:42] <CheeseGardener> I found it nevermind
[12:42] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[12:42] <kevinmcq> hey there guys, ive been trying to get kismet, airsnort, and aircrack working on ubuntu feisty 7.04 on a dell latitude laptop, the laptop is using an internal wifi card to connect to wireless networks and i believe it uses the orinoco driver....
[12:42] <CheeseGardener> but it's still giving my problems
[12:42] <XLV> jordan_, check umask if you want new files written in the dir to have certain permissions
[12:42] <bannerman> XLV: If I select the free space remaining on the device manually, it only gives the option of "Show Cylinder/Head/Sector information" and won't allow me to create an additional partition.
[12:43] <MasterShrek> swatF1RESTORM, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    and remove any duplicates, then do a sudo apt-get update
[12:43] <CheeseGardener> said something about the video out device, it couldn't find when I loaded the file.
[12:43] <kevinmcq> im running into issues when trying to set the device to monitor mode
[12:43] <kost_> any help with me?
[12:43] <kost_> d
[12:43] <Thatguy> phenom, I are stupid how does that explain anything?
[12:43] <Nunzio> Having troblems with Eth0 DHCP Client cannot allocate DHclient Etho
[12:43] <Nunzio> found it in logs
[12:43] <CheeseGardener> and it won't load mplayer
[12:43] <Nunzio> Network Manager just hangs when i reboot
[12:44] <Nunzio> never had problems before
[12:44] <Nunzio> Does the spinning thing and never assigns me an ip address
[12:44] <kevinmcq> ive gone through a lot of resources online including the airsnort site and ubuntuforums but a lot of the information is pre-feisty so im hesitant to trust what im being told to do
[12:44] <XLV> bannerman, i really dont know how ubuntu installer handles raid partitions.. maybe its a raid5 partition and its locked while creating it? what i know is that in a raid volume you can have many partitions
[12:44] <Paradox34690> MasterShrek... I have another ?? if you don't mind...
[12:44] <Nunzio> lol
[12:44] <phenom> Thatguy: Sorry, in my experience "all/any" issue I have  had was misconfigurations in xorg.conf, running a sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange,
[12:44] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: right click the video player window and choose options
[12:44] <MasterShrek> Paradox34690, fire away
[12:44] <bruenig> Nunzio, try to connect via cli and see what happens
[12:44] <bannerman> XLV: Thanks anyway :)
[12:45] <gorrz> Nunzio, it might be getting bunk addresses.. sure cables r plugged in ?
[12:45] <gorrz> Nunzio, or connection is up ?
[12:45] <CheeseGardener> I don't see "options"
[12:45] <CheeseGardener> I see a lot of tabs though
[12:45] <Paradox34690> thnx, I put Ubuntu on my brothers system... dual booted with XP. He has a WUSB54G Linksys adapter. I've done just about EVERYTHING i can find in order to get his wireless to work. Any suggestions?
[12:45] <CheeseGardener> there are preferences
[12:45] <CheeseGardener> but no "options"
[12:45] <phenom> Thatguy: gives the correct monitor parameter you need to add to the monitors section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:45] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: sorry my bad its preferences
[12:45] <Nunzio> gorrz: cables are plugged in, and up
[12:45] <Paradox34690> WUSB54Gv1, btw.
[12:45] <kevinmcq> im assuming i need to patch my drivers to allow me to use monitor mode but im not sure about how i should go about it considering the guides ive found online are pre-kernal 2.6.20
[12:45] <arathald> hey, i jsut got the wireless card on my kubuntu box working, but i cant get it actually connected to wireless
[12:45] <Pie> Can someone tell me the terminal command to change permissions for a folder so that all changing to it is allowed please?
[12:45] <bannerman> Can anyone help me? I want to create a system, data and swap partition within my raid 5 device while installing ubuntu but it will only allow me to create one partition within that device. It says I've got too many primary partitions when I only have one.
[12:46] <Nunzio> dhclient gives me an ip but releases it in a few minutes
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> I'm in there
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> now what?
[12:46] <jrib> Pie: what folder?
[12:46] <phenom> That guy: Is your x working at all?
[12:46] <MasterShrek> Paradox34690, im not sure about that, you may have better luck googling that
[12:46] <swatF1RESTORM> MasterShrek: I don't see any duplicates. http://pastebin.com/d53167785
[12:46] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: are you running beryl or compiz or anything like that
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> yes
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> compiz
[12:46] <phenom> Thatguy: or are you stuck at the shell?
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> gnome compiz
[12:46] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: ok then choose xv
[12:46] <Pie> /boot/grub/ >.>
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> where do I choose this?
[12:46] <Thatguy> phenom, I understand that but I don't see that being a problem in my case because everything was fine and was configured correctly but then suddenly stopped. and a fresh install which worked last time, doesn't work this time.
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> what tab?
[12:46] <Paradox34690> okay, i'll have to see what I can do. Thanks though!
[12:46] <gorrz> Nunzio, uncheck enable networking and recheck it.. tell me if that works
[12:46] <kevinmcq> anyone have any advice for me?
[12:47] <Nunzio> gorrz: I've done that too it just keeps spinning forever
[12:47] <jrib> Pie: you shouldn't change permissions.  Instead use sudo to get permission (see ubotu's message but feel free toa sk if it still isn't clear after reading the page)
[12:47] <jrib> !sudo > Pie (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:47] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: video
[12:47] <CheeseGardener> ok and what exactly do I choose?
[12:47] <CheeseGardener> what's the full name?
[12:47] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: xv
[12:47] <arathald> specifically, i can enable the card, and it seems to get an IP address, but the IP it gets diesnt correspond to any of the networks here (and even weirder is my wired card, when not plugged in gets an address in the same subnet)
[12:47] <Pie> Well, I don't want to start up firefox, just want to quickly edit the file so that I can use GRUB with win XP
[12:48] <Thatguy> phenom, everytime I boot I am told my xserver is not configured correctly and it cannot start. then I am left with a terminal.
[12:48] <CheeseGardener> it says "error opening/inititalizing the video out (-vo) device"
[12:48] <kevinmcq> hmm... well does anyone know where i could find advice on irc for kismet/airsnort/aircrack? or a ubuntu channel for wardriving?
[12:48] <Pie> I don't know the command to edit a read-only file in terminal
[12:48] <phenom> :)
[12:48] <gorrz> Nunzio, thats strange.. if dhcp is up, connect is up, cables are ok it should find the address..
[12:48] <kitche> arathald: it's getting that address due to a messagebus program
[12:48] <jrib> Pie: you need to read the page to understand what you are doing.  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   is the command you want
[12:48] <Nunzio> It does on mine just fine
[12:48] <kevinmcq> pie: gksudo gedit some/thing.txt?
[12:48] <phenom> Thatguy: Good: that means Ubuntu was successfully installed.
[12:48] <Nunzio> but on my other computer
[12:48] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: then try X11
[12:48] <Nunzio> it doesnt
[12:48] <Pie> okay, thanks
[12:48] <Nunzio> and i've never had a problem before
[12:48] <gorrz> weird
[12:49] <gorrz> real weird
[12:49] <CheeseGardener> Same thing paddy
[12:49] <kitche> arathald: do dhclient <device> and it should get a correct ip if you use dhcp of course
[12:49] <CheeseGardener> whenever I go back into prferences
[12:49] <gorrz> install something recently that might have screwed it up ?
[12:49] <CheeseGardener> it is set to another type of video
[12:49] <phenom> Thatguy: I fear following those steps may resolve your issue, but I wouldn't dare guess why it happend in the first place.
[12:49] <Nunzio> netmanager says that activation of eth0 failed
[12:49] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: maybe not as smooth but try until we get one thats happy with your setup and remember you need to restart mplayer each time you change something
[12:49] <CheeseGardener> other than the one I selected.  Maybe I'm selecting it wrong?
[12:49] <gorrz> Nunzio, what do the logs say ?
[12:49] <Nunzio> dhcdbd message_handler not found under /conf/redhat/dchp/eth0
[12:49] <kitche> Paddy_EIRE: CheeseGardener usually the x11 driver works
[12:49] <Thatguy> phenom, what steps?
[12:49] <gorrz> Nunzio, why does it fail ?
[12:49] <Nunzio> says all that in syslog
[12:50] <Nunzio> No idea
[12:50] <arathald> kitche: so, is that preventing it from getting an ip address from the actual router, or is that only because it's not getting one anyways?
[12:50] <Thatguy> phenom,I already did all that
[12:50] <phenom> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:50] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:50] <phenom> oh yea? :/
[12:50] <CheeseGardener> now I need to get it to start by default
[12:50] <Paradox34690> so... um... once you're in a console (ctrl+alt+f1), how does one get back to the gui? :D
[12:50] <Paddy_EIRE> kitche: thats what I was saying but CheeseGardener needs to restart mplayer before it takes effect
[12:50] <scottDkoDer> Can someone help me with gparted?
[12:50] <Thatguy> phemon,and it didn't wrk
[12:50] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: nice one :)
[12:50] <kitche> arathald: it's not getting one at all you have to dhclient <device> or make soem udev rules to do it for you
[12:50] <frostburn> Paradox34690, ctrl alt f7, f9 etc
[12:50] <gorrz> Nunzio, got the problem
[12:51] <Nunzio> gorrz: eh?
[12:51] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: is it a dvd or a local file
[12:51] <gorrz> Nunzio, "/conf/redhat/dchp/eth0" it's dhcp not dchp
[12:51] <Paradox34690> ooooooo, pretty :)  thanks
[12:51] <Rockinghorse> scottDkoDer: what do you need to do?
[12:51] <kitche> Paddy_EIRE: yes that's why I change the exec line on shortcuts so it at that driver all the time when mplayer runs
[12:51] <huron> ok guys, read the faq. unable to install from initrd-hdimage.gz ramdisk. It is able to find the iso image and mounts but says can't copy data from the iso. I did the integrity check and it is OK
[12:51] <swatF1RESTORM> MasterShrek: weird, now it's updating just fine
[12:51] <arooni> hey folks
[12:51] <MobiVissud> anyone have any updates on the black window nvidia bug?
[12:51] <Nunzio> gorrz: I may have just typed it in wrong
[12:51] <gorrz> Nunzio, so somewhere it's set as dchp not dhcp
[12:51] <Paddy_EIRE> kitche: nice one, clever thinking
[12:51] <MasterShrek> swatF1RESTORM, i was gonna say i didnt see anything wrong with that
[12:51] <CheeseGardener> I take totem out?
[12:51] <scottDkoDer> I would like to change the /devlabel, like its sda8 and I want it to be sda4 etc
[12:51] <CheeseGardener> and ONLY put mplayer?
[12:51] <Nunzio> gorrz: I just typed it wrong here
[12:51] <Thatguy> phenom, so what would you suggest?
[12:51] <Nunzio> gorrz: It says correctly in syslog
[12:51] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, use xine
[12:51] <gorrz> Nunzio, gotcha
[12:51] <kevinmcq> MobiVissud, what do you mean
[12:51] <phenom> Thatguy: I'm scared https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto has more recommendations than I do. I'm sorry that has normally solved my problems :|
[12:51] <bannerman> Is it bad practice to put both my system partition and my data on a single raid 5?
[12:51] <CheeseGardener> xine?
[12:52] <CheeseGardener> what is Xine?
[12:52] <Nunzio> gorrz: Any ideas? Its never giving me any problems before and i've not changed anything
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> MasterShrek: thats not what we want
[12:52] <Hirvinen> !xine
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <kitche> !info xine | CheeseGardener but that's not what you want anyways
[12:52] <huron> xine is movie player like mplayer
[12:52] <ubotu> cheesegardener but that's not what you want anyways: Package xine does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:52] <Rockinghorse> I don't know how you would do that...
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> err, CheeseGardener just stick to the plan to get you operational
[12:52] <scottDkoDer> Rockinghorse: I have done it once before, but I just cant figure it out this time
[12:52] <kitche> xine is nothing like mplayer :)
[12:52] <xerawx_pb> is it bad to let the battery run down completely under ubuntu, is it going to shut itself down at a certain point, or do i need a specific package to control that, and what is that called if so
[12:52] <gorrz> Nunzio, looks like a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcdbd/+bug/93360
[12:52] <Xoris> huron: actually xine is a media backend. other programs use it. it's similar to gstreamer in that respect.
[12:52] <phenom> Thatguy: I'd boot other os's on it before I started tossing hardware. try knoppix live on it.
[12:53] <kitche> xerawx_pb: acpi should handle it
[12:53] <CheeseGardener> what is the run command for mplayer?
[12:53] <CheeseGardener> just "mplayer" in command?
[12:53] <huron> oh my bad
[12:53] <Nunzio> gorrz: How do i fix it?
[12:53] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: mplayer
[12:53] <gorrz> Nunzio, not sure, lemme look
[12:53] <jpatota> CheeseGardener: type "which mplayer"
[12:53] <CheeseGardener> cause I hit "alt-f2" and type "mplayer"
[12:53] <CheeseGardener> and it won't load
[12:53] <kitche> CheeseGardener: yes but it will be in console mode
[12:53] <kitche> CheeseGardener: gmplayer is the gui of it
[12:53] <kost_> When someone is able to help me plz let me know
[12:53] <phenom> Or Fedora or xandros, hell linspire has good hardware support
[12:53] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:53] <fam> How do I load a program, like a text editor as a privileged user so I can save files?  Or would I be better just changing the owner of the files I'm editing?
[12:53] <Thatguy> phenom, ok, thanks for your help then. Personally I'm guessing its a hardware problem, like, my vid card went or something because there is no reason why it won't work, it worked, then it didn't and even after reinstall it won't. ZSo I guess it HAS to be a hardware prob
[12:53] <MasterShrek> kost_, what do u need?
[12:53] <Hirvinen> CheeseGardener: xine is a media backend that is used e.g. by gxine and xine-ui.
[12:53] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: SMplayer is the best mplayer front end I hae found
[12:54] <MasterShrek> !sudo | fam
[12:54] <ubotu> fam: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:54] <DarkCat> doues any one know y when I VNC to my LINUX box all i get is the desktop background and no icons or anything
[12:54] <pace_t_zulu> MasterShrek, you still here?
[12:54] <alex1> hi
[12:54] <MasterShrek> pace_t_zulu, yea
[12:54] <alex1> can someone help me out with ATI drivers?
[12:54] <CheeseGardener> gmplayer is the only one that works
[12:54] <fam> What about if I'm launching it from an icon?
[12:54] <arooni> i have grub installed... and ubuntu can load fine... but when i try to boot into win xp via the grub interface, i get this problem: "Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt:  <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll ... please re-install a copy of the file above
[12:54] <CheeseGardener> smplayer command doesn't work
[12:54] <CheeseGardener> gmplayer will
[12:54] <MasterShrek> fam, put gksu before the command
[12:54] <phenom> Thatguy: ok your lspci shows a graphics card right?
[12:54] <kitche> Paddy_EIRE: SMplayer? is that 3rd party
[12:54] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=smplayer
[12:54] <gorrz> Nunzio, nobody seems to know, the bug is still unpatched.. sux ;>
[12:55] <fam> Okay I'll give it a shot.  Thanks
[12:55] <phenom> lspci | grep VGA?
[12:55] <Thatguy> old on
[12:55] <gorrz> Nunzio, did u upgrade to fiesty recently
[12:55] <kost_> Look I downloaded Linux Ubuntu Desktop Edition 7.04 and i boot from CD and then i press the install icon on my desktop. I select languagem time zone and in the partition part i have when i select 70GB for my partition the % stays at 0 for more than 10  minute -it stucks i guess.
[12:55] <Thatguy> phenom, hold on
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> kitche: its using qt I think but its an awesome frontend
[12:55] <phenom> Thatguy ok
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> kitche: http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=smplayer
[12:55] <kitche> Paddy_EIRE: yeah must be 3rd party since I know gmplayer is official
[12:55] <MasterShrek> kost_, i would guess its a bad burn
[12:55] <pace_t_zulu> MasterShrek, /etc/init.d/S91apache2 is calling /etc/init.d/apache2
[12:55] <kost_> oh how can i chceck my burn??
[12:56] <kost_> or should i try to burn in slower speed or something?
[12:56] <pace_t_zulu> should i delet S91apache2 or chmod 644 it
[12:56] <Xoris> !verify | kost_
[12:56] <ubotu> kost_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:56] <MasterShrek> kost_, i think there is an option when you first boot the cd
[12:56] <frostburn> that's not the same
[12:56] <MasterShrek> pace_t_zulu, chmod it, then its still there
[12:56] <Paddy_EIRE> kitche: yeah, although works far better when using the likes of beryl or compiz as gmplayer resizes to the point its across 2 desktops
[12:56] <kevinmcq> anybody able to help with some wardriving stuff?
[12:56] <newnoob> simple noob  question here, where is the icons folder?
[12:56] <Nunzio> gorrz: No i've cleaned installed it, had it for a few months
[12:56] <MasterShrek> newnoob, /usr/share/pixmaps
[12:57] <newnoob> thankx
[12:57] <Nunzio> gorrz: And as i said, nothing has been changed i just plugged in cable today and first time i get these errors
[12:57] <MasterShrek> newnoob, or /usr/share/icons
[12:57] <Xoris> kevinmcq: i think we'd rather stick to legal activities
[12:57] <Thatguy> phenom, 01:00:0 VGA compatible controller: VIA technologies, Inc. Unknown device 3343 (rev 01)
[12:57] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: did you get smplayer from that site
[12:57] <CheeseGardener> no gmplayer won't load the file
[12:57] <CheeseGardener> it still uses movie player
[12:57] <fam> Works :) thanks
[12:57] <kevinmcq> xoris, alright then, anyone want to help me with some network security software under ubuntu?
[12:57] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: thats what we are going to solve
[12:58] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:58] <CheeseGardener> I have to restart?
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> no
[12:58] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=smplayer  <--- install this
[12:58] <Thatguy> phenom, does that tell you anything?
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: top one
[12:58] <CheeseGardener> why?
[12:58] <CheeseGardener> I don't need it right now
[12:59] <CheeseGardener> what is wrong with mplayer?
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: yes
[12:59] <kitche> Paddy_EIRE: well I like QT myself I have a program that I made that uses QT frontend lol
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: just follow me please
[12:59] <kitche> CheeseGardener: that is mplayer just a frontend to it
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> kitche: yeah...what was the app
[12:59] <kitche> Paddy_EIRE: just a database thing pretty much
[01:00] <bannerman> When I create the partitions to store my software raid, should I use primary or logical partitions?
[01:00] <wepeel> Hi, is there any version of ubuntu that installs and boots from a USB flash drive?
[01:00] <gorrz> Nunzio, something must have changed
[01:00] <CheeseGardener> i get it throuhg synpatics?
[01:00] <kitche> !install | wepeel this tells you how to do it
[01:00] <ubotu> wepeel this tells you how to do it: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:00] <Paddy_EIRE> kitche: oh, I would love to program my own apps and such...trying to learn bash scripting as much as I can
[01:00] <gorrz> Nunzio, basing my opinion on logic here, eheh
[01:00] <wepeel> kitche, thanks!
[01:00] <kitche> wepeel: the first link should tell you how to do it
[01:00] <Paddy_EIRE> kitche: python apparently is a great lingo to learn
[01:01] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=smplayer HERE
[01:01] <herbal> Hello all, i have 7.04 installed. I cannot play sound and video at the same time or the sound loops. any suggestions?
[01:01] <Thatguy> herbal, sounds like a video driver problem IMO
[01:01] <bannerman> Nobody seems to know anything about setting up raid while installing ubuntu, am I doing this all wrong?
[01:02] <herbal> Thatguy, i have the latest nvidia drivers installed
[01:02] <bannerman> Should I install to a spare drive first and set up the partitions from within ubuntu?
[01:02] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:02] <CheeseGardener> I got it now
[01:02] <Thatguy> herbal, Hmmm... what palyer are you using?
[01:02] <CheeseGardener> now what?
[01:02] <wepeel> kitche, what I'm seeing there is how to install from a usb drive...I was hoping to install onto a flash drive etc...am I just not reading carefully enough?
[01:02] <herbal> and am using the HDA nvidia alsa mixer
[01:02] <CheeseGardener> Will smplayer update automatically like something I get through synpatics????????
[01:02] <kitche> wepeel: well you can install the livecd to a flash drive
[01:03] <herbal> thatguy, i have tried serveral, VLC, and movie player to name a few
[01:03] <Paddy_EIRE> CheeseGardener: no it wont, but you should not have to worry about that...if it aint broke dont fix it
[01:03] <wepeel> kitche, I've never run the LiveCD...can I create documents etc and save them to the flash drive then?
[01:03] <kitche> wepeel: you should be able to
[01:04] <kitche> wow that is a lot of compromised machines
[01:04] <wepeel> kitche, ok, I'll give it a try. Thanks!
[01:04] <CheeseGardener> why can't I use normal mplayer?
[01:04] <CheeseGardener> what is so bad about mplayer?
[01:04] <wepeel> kitche, was worse yesterday :(
[01:04] <wepeel> anyway, off to try this
[01:04] <CheeseGardener> just tell me how to set it so mplayer opens up my video ok?
[01:05] <CheeseGardener> I got the file to open with Mplayer
[01:05] <kitche> CheeseGardener: set gmplayer to your preferred applications for video
[01:05] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:05] <CheeseGardener> that's it?
[01:06] <kitche> CheeseGardener: should be
[01:06] <CheeseGardener> ok
[01:06] <CheeseGardener> then I'm done :)
[01:06] <CheeseGardener> it worked dfine
[01:06] <CheeseGardener> worked fine*
[01:06] <ShackJack> !enter | CheeseGardener
[01:06] <ubotu> CheeseGardener: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:06] <MasterShrek> kitche, where is that preferred applications thing for video? i only have options for browser, mail and terminal
[01:07] <phenom> Thatguy: sorry, that says your comp is detecting your video card, It doesn't rule out hard ware issue. But I still fear it's a software thing.
[01:07] <kitche> MasterShrek: think it's in the mimetype program for video
[01:07] <kitche> MasterShrek: you just have to tell mime to open the video files with the player
[01:08] <arooni> how do i list all the hard drive parititons available and what file system they are ?  (i'm trying to find out WHERE windows is installed)... i know it's on my 80gb drive... but i don't know names or which parititon
[01:08] <ShackJack> Hi all... SSH question - I can't connect to my ubuntu computer from outside ssh... I have open-ssh server/client installed on it. It also has a linksys router/firewall hooked on it. It times out when I try to connect to username@ip (optained from whatismyip.com).  Wondering if I'm missing something simple? Firewall settting or something?
[01:08] <kitche> MasterShrek: myself I don't use any mimetype program
[01:09] <phenom> Thatguy: I would google every x resolution out there before I'd start tossing hardware. Again, I apologize as the solutions on that webpage I gave you have cured most of my x ills.
[01:09] <kitche> arooni: fdisk -l
[01:09] <astro76> ShackJack, need to forward port 22 on your router to the pc
[01:09] <kitche> ShackJack: what do you mean outside outside your network if it is then you need to forward port 22 as astro76 said
[01:10] <ShackJack> astro76: kitche: Thanks - yes, I just mean from outside my house ;) Will look at it... though the linksys router control panels a bit of a mystery to me ;)
[01:10] <kyja_> hey
[01:10] <arooni> kitche: how do i get labels for drive
[01:11] <astro76> ShackJack, I think it might be under an "applications" tab or some such
[01:11] <kitche> arooni: well the devices are on the left /dev/hda1 and such
[01:11] <astro76> IIRC
[01:11] <CheeseGardener> does anyone know how to dock the little play options bar inside of the video window?
[01:11] <kyja_> i dont know
[01:11] <dga> when i logout of my system, i'm left with a blank screen instead of a login window. anyone know how to fix this?
[01:11] <kitche> arooni: you have to look at the filesystem to know what's on that partition
[01:11] <stik> Is it common practice for upgrading kernel for the menu.1st file to be overwritten without backing up the old?
[01:11] <kyja_> i like eggs
[01:12] <Pazy> Does Ubuntu or Ubuntu's installer have a problem with IDE and Sata HDD's on same comp?
[01:12] <kyja_> i like eggs
[01:12] <ShackJack> astro76: Thanks I see it... do you happen to know if I just leave the IP address at 192.168.1.0 ?
[01:12] <kitche> stik: well if you use the update-manager it just adds on to the menu.lst but if you installed the kernel yourself and put it in the wrong spot it will overwrite your kernel entry
[01:12] <astro76> ShackJack, you'll need the IP of the computer with openssh-server
[01:13] <ShackJack> astro76: Hmmm... O.K.... networking not really my thing... Would the application name just be "ssh"?
[01:13] <kitche> stik: ubuntu will just move it's own kernel down a few lines and add the new kernel that the update brought in to the top of the list
[01:13] <astro76> ShackJack, yeah it has it bult in then
[01:13] <kitche> ShackJack: you can call the application anything as long as you know what it is :)
[01:13] <CheeseGardener> is there any way, in mplayer, to dock the video play options into the video playing screen???
[01:14] <astro76> ShackJack, and then you really want a static ip for that computer.... IIRC you can set the linksys to always give a computer the same IP based on MAC address, this is the easiest way
[01:14] <stik> Well I'm using Glitzy Gutsy so I don't expect the world... I upgraded with update tool so this would be considered a bug if it just rewrote the menu.1st file?
[01:14] <astro76> ShackJack, or just set static ip on that pc
[01:14] <ShackJack> O.K.. Thanks --- eeeeg network *really* not my thing :)
[01:15] <kitche> stik: yeah it just appended the new kernel on top though the old kernel is still there you have to press esc and select the right kernel if you want to use the older kernel
[01:15] <stik> Actually no It totally overwrote... I had a custom file with slack and xp on it.. those are gone ...
[01:16] <stik> probably a bugger in the installer I guess..
[01:18] <kitche> stik: well it's not a bug you probbaly put those entries in the wrong spot so they got overwritten
[01:18] <frostburn> is there a log file for nm-applet, i don't see it in /var/logs
[01:19] <kitche> stik: if you add entries to a wrong spot in /boot/grub/menu.lst when ubuntu updates the kernel your custom settings get overwritten if they are not before a certain line
[01:19] <phenom> Ok, It's been 20 minutes since I had last asked, so be easy on me for repeating,, has any one ever set up hyper threading tech on ubuntu?
[01:19] <phenom> :)
[01:19] <kitche> stik: then it's at the very bottom of the file is the spot where ubuntu doesn't touch
[01:20] <kitche> phenom: umm you should have it setup already
[01:20] <kitche> phenom: do uname -a and see if you have a smp kernel which you should I believe
[01:20] <stik> Ack.. ok.. my messup then... tyvm
[01:21] <phenom> kitche: why yes I do. :)
[01:21] <kitche> stik: it tells you where to put custom lines and such though in the file
[01:21] <kitche> phenom: ok what does cat /proc/cpuinfo tell you should be 1 I believe
[01:21] <Justi1> what should I do if the bios won't boot from the ubuntu cd?
[01:22] <Justi1> is there a different iso I can use on an older computer?
[01:22] <kitche> Justi1: if the bios doesn't support booting from cd you need to make a boot floppy
[01:22] <dga> when i logout of my system, i'm left with a blank screen instead of a login window. anyone know how to fix this?
[01:23] <phenom> kitchie: processor       : 1
[01:23] <kitche> phenom: ok well you have HT setup
[01:23] <phenom> sorry, kitche
[01:23] <Justi1> kitche: in the bios config, I ordered the boot order with cd drive at the top. where can I find a boot file for a floppy?
[01:23] <CheeseGardener> What does the the %m mean in "totem %m" ????
[01:23] <kitche> phenom: in linux it looks like two processors
[01:23] <phenom> I though it would say 2 :) :.
[01:24] <ShackJack> astro76: kitche: Hey thanks both - the port forwarding did the trick. That little tidbit wasn't included on this page ;) (in case someone wants to add it) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[01:24] <kitche> phenom: 0=1 1=2
[01:24] <kitche> Justi1: ok so it does have a cd boot what does the computer do just go to whatever it has installed or no?
[01:24] <phenom> ok, well cool. I'm hyping. :)
[01:25] <kitche> phenom: actually it looks like two in windows also :)
[01:25] <CheeseGardener> does anyone know?
[01:25] <Justi1> kitche: yeah it loads windows
[01:25] <kitche> Justi1: hmm ok did you recheck the bios just to make sure the cd was at the top?
[01:25] <Justi1> kitche: yeah several times
[01:25] <CheeseGardener> What does the the %m mean in "totem %m" ????
[01:26] <kitche> !install| Justi1 ok check the ways to install ubuntu  to see if one of those help you
[01:26] <jrib> CheeseGardener: filename (like if you drag a file onto the icon)
[01:26] <ubotu> Justi1 ok check the ways to install ubuntu  to see if one of those help you: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:26] <j3g> is there a specific irc channel for gutsy?
[01:26] <jrib> j3g: #ubuntu+1
[01:26] <j3g> jrib: thx
[01:26] <CheeseGardener> jr, if I use gmplayer
[01:26] <CheeseGardener> do I have to use %m too?
[01:26] <CheeseGardener> like gmplayer %m?
[01:26] <kitche> CheeseGardener: you don't have to but can
[01:26] <phenom> kitche: thank you sir. I would have gone on years thinking 1 meant,, 1 :P
[01:27] <DarkCat> doues any one know y when I VNC to my LINUX box all i get is the desktop background and no icons or anything
[01:27] <CheeseGardener> so... give me an example how i'd use it?
[01:27] <CheeseGardener> i'm using it in removeable media
[01:27] <CheeseGardener> under the prefered media player for video
[01:27] <mrigns> jrib, your script is spamming me although I'm registered :(
[01:27] <CheeseGardener> the command line that is... I set it to that.  it was "totem %m" but I set it to gmplayer.  Should I set it "gmplayer %m"????
[01:28] <Justi1> kitche: any guesses on how many 1.5mb floppies I will need?
[01:28] <pedahzur> If there is anyone here that is responsible/involved in the production of the installer images, can they take a look at bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/130555  It is being a true show-stopper for me right now.
[01:28] <tehk> Anyone know why all opengl apps(glxgears,warsow) kill my xserver. I am using compiz-fusion.
[01:28] <jrib> mrigns: just spams everyone in -unregged :)
[01:28] <mrigns> hmm I wonder what got me into that channel
[01:29] <KrisWood> Hi everyone
[01:29] <kitche> Justi1: might just be one or two
[01:29] <CheeseGardener> the command line that is... I set it to that.  it was "totem %m" but I set it to gmplayer.  Should I set it "gmplayer %m"????
[01:30] <kitche> CheeseGardener: you can if you just want to drag and drop video to the icon and it will play
[01:30] <CheeseGardener> which icon?
[01:30] <CheeseGardener> where is the icon?
[01:30] <kitche> CheeseGardener: but yes you want it gmplayer %m though
[01:31] <KrisWood> Ok I'm having trouble setting up my network on debian, and the folks in #debian told me to RTFM which doesn't help much for a complete noob. I figure ubuntu is much more friendly so I'll try here. Is there an idiot's guide to networking for Debian / Ubuntu out there somewhere?
[01:31] <frostburn> networking as far as, getting your lan card to work?
[01:31] <pedahzur> Yes, the manual. :) Just kidding.  What kind of trouble are you having?
[01:31] <CheeseGardener> where is the icon exactly though?  Which are you referring to?  where?
[01:31] <KrisWood> card works, just needs ip address, gateway, and dns settings
[01:32] <pedahzur> Are you on DHCP, or are you looking to put in setting manually?
[01:32] <r2d4> Video just stopped working in Feisty. All video players. Any ideas?
[01:32] <KrisWood> they pointed to me to a bunch of man pages that I'm having trouble reading hehe
[01:32] <pedahzur> Ah.
[01:32] <KrisWood> static IP address, I have all the info, just trying to figure out how to set this up via command line
[01:32] <pedahzur> Well,
[01:32] <pedahzur> oops
[01:32] <pedahzur> Kris: You can do it via the command line, but you probably don't want to.
[01:32] <r2d4> I hear audio though. Seems to be the same across all formats.
[01:33] <pedahzur> Kris: You would edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:33] <pedahzur> Kris: Let me pull up and example for you.
[01:33] <KrisWood> pedahzur, There is no graphical interface on this box so it's all gonna have to be done the hard way
[01:33] <pedahzur> K
[01:33] <obf213> !automatix
[01:33] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:33] <KrisWood> all I really need is an example of a correct configuration
[01:34] <frostburn> KrisWood, you can also use the gui under system> admin > network
[01:34] <pedahzur> Kris: http://pastebin.com/d5d9ee97a
[01:34] <Pazy> Is it possible to have Ubuntu and Kubuntu, as 2 seperate OS's, on one harddrive?
[01:34] <walkover> if i have this: typedef std::map<int,int> ZMap;typedef std::map<int,ZMap> YMap;typedef std::map<int,YMap> XMap;         I can acces it by xmap_map[int] [int] [int]  - which is great. But how do i search such a thing?
[01:34] <KrisWood> frostburn, All I've got is bash
[01:34] <pedahzur> Kris: That's a stanza from /etc/network/interfaces
[01:35] <DarkCat> yes
[01:35] <boardstar> Hey everybody, im really new to ubuntu.. but not computers.  I've read a bunch of documentation already but am still having trouble compiling .deb packages to install ... specifically  with ./configure  , can someone offer some pointers?
[01:35] <pedahzur> Kris: You'll want to put your DNS servers in /etc/resolve.conf
[01:35] <kitche> Pazy: yes
[01:35] <Pazy> Is it easy?
[01:35] <DarkCat> yes
[01:35] <KrisWood> awesome thanks Pedahzur :D
[01:36] <Pazy> Thats good news, thought it was gonna be hard
[01:36] <DarkCat> grub will do it automaticly just select the otherr hdd when installing
[01:36] <walkover> anyone
[01:36] <pedahzur> Kris: man resolv.conf should explain it pretty well.
[01:36] <KrisWood> yup it did
[01:36] <KrisWood> I just didn't understand the syntax for interfaces
[01:36] <pedahzur> Cool.
[01:36] <Shaddox> Her everyone. How can I format all of my partitions (currently running frmo LiveCD) regardless of irrepairable errors on the existing ext3 filesystems?
[01:36] <KrisWood> and for some reason couldn't figure out how to scroll up and down in man
[01:37] <Rayyan> can anyone help me paste a skin folder to amsn? it says i dont have permission to paste
[01:37] <Justi1> how do I make ubuntu scan for hardware I just added, specifically a usb floppy?
[01:37] <frostburn> Shaddox, fdisk
[01:37] <Pazy> Does Ubuntu/Ubuntu install have problems with a Sata HDD and an IDE HDD on same system?
[01:37] <pedahzur> Justi1: it should automatically detect it.  If you put in a disk, do you get any kind of pop-up asking if you want ot open it?
[01:38] <pedahzur> Pazy: No, it shouldn't.  FWIW, I have a system set up with SCSI and SATA with no problems.  The IDE drives will show up as /dev/hd* and SATA as /dev/sd*
[01:38] <Justi1> pedahzur: no, nothing comes up
[01:38] <CheeseGardener> what key do you have to hold down to drag a file into the applications menu?
[01:39] <CheeseGardener> and drop it on a program?
[01:39] <frostburn> CheeseGardener, kde, or gnome
[01:39] <Pazy> Everytime I go to the installer it freezes at the bit where its detecting HDD/OS's or whatever. I have to unhook Sata to install
[01:39] <kitche> jrib: is there any info if they will use libata soon or no?
[01:39] <pedahzur> Justi1: Hmm...have you looked at the syslog as you plugged it in?
[01:39] <File13> laptops have VGA outs but can they also work as in's, if you wanted to plug a tower into a laptop could you use the laptop screen as its monitor?
[01:39] <DarkCat> douse any one know any thing about VNC Server???????????????????????????????
[01:39] <CheeseGardener> Gnome
[01:39] <Justi1> pedahzur: where is the syslog?
[01:39] <boardstar> im trying to compile a wrar package in the terminal, but when i type ./configure the message i get is "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"
[01:39] <pedahzur> Justi1: It may just be available as a drive, without any special notcifications
[01:40] <kitche> boardstar: the program might not have a configure script to compile
[01:40] <pedahzur> Justi1: /var/log/syslog
[01:40] <pedahzur> DarkCat: What's the question?
[01:40] <CoasterMaster> I'm running compiz-fusion (under xgl) with my ATI Radeon X300 graphics card (fglrx drivers).  The only problem is that direct rendering isn't enabled, is there a way to fix this?
[01:40] <pedahzur> DarkCat: I use it quite a bit, though not the server part on Linux for quite a while.
[01:40] <DarkCat>  when I VNC to my LINUX box all i get is the desktop background and no icons or anything
[01:40] <boardstar> kitche: ok, so what then? ive tried following with make and make install .. but get nothing
[01:40] <frostburn> CheeseGardener, you can't drag applications into the menu
[01:40] <CheeseGardener> frostburn, gnome
[01:40] <Geoffrey2> I'm running IE 6 under wine, using IEs4Linux...lately I noticed that typing anything into the address bar produces mainly ? marks in the window that appears below it...then IE returns the "page cannot be displayed" message, and the address bar shows a single h in it
[01:40] <Shaddox> Do I have to add the Bootable flag to my root / partition?
[01:40] <kitche> boardstar: are you in the directory of the sources?
[01:41] <Justi1> pedahzur: there are no new drives in /media, and the syslog doesn't show anything
[01:41] <CheeseGardener> frostburn, I thought I could, in  I set gmplayer to %m
[01:41] <obf213> my friend said vnc is built into ubuntu, anyone know what its called?
[01:41] <kitche> DarkCat: yes that's how vncserver is setup by default you need to configure the config to use your session that you want
[01:41] <jdt> Hi, how do you change file attributes on a NAS exposed over CIFS. Basically, I copied a directory with the read-only file attribute bit set, and would like to recursively remove it.
[01:41] <obf213> !vnc
[01:41] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[01:41] <CheeseGardener> doesn't that let me drag/drop onto a menu program?
[01:41] <Shaddox> Do I have to add the Bootable flag to my root / partition?
[01:41] <DarkCat> ok thanks
[01:42] <jdt> I was hoping there is a linux command line option that I can use to recursively remove the file attribute
[01:42] <phenom> vnc comes standard on many debian os's, something of which is paramount to update.
[01:42] <kitche> DarkCat: I would tell you it but I can't access my gmail right now to see what you need to do to get it working like you want
[01:42] <boardstar> kitche:yeah, is there any recomended directories i should use to compile things? specfially so i dont run into permissions problems? im not used to being locked out of certain directories
[01:42] <frostburn> CheeseGardener, you'll have to make a .desktop file under /usr/share/applications/ etc, at least that's how i've done it
[01:42] <rpedro>  hi, I just installed the nvidia drivers in feisty using r-d-m, unfortunately it replaced my xorg.conf without asking, but the real problem is that I can't get my CRT monitor to display a refresh rate of more than 50/60 Hz , not even inserting the sync ranges that my monitor supports in xorg.conf. Anyone familiar with this problem?
[01:42] <Solpex> ello people
[01:42] <kitche> boardstar: what is in the directory
[01:42] <pedahzur> Justi1: Hmm...If there is nothing in the syslog when you plug it in, when it is not being detected by the system at all.  I would find that odd, as I've seen messages generated even by USB devices that Linux didn't support, but I at least got a notice there were plugged in.  Does the drive work under Windows or Mac?
[01:42] <frostburn> there might be an app that does it now
[01:42] <DarkCat> thats fine now that i know it is a config isue i can go frome there
[01:42] <CheeseGardener> frostburn, are you sure there is no way to drag a file onto the application in the application menu, like gmplayer, to have it open automatically???
[01:42] <Justi1> pedahzur: yes it works in windows
[01:43] <Solpex> I need some help im configuring my network and what should i put in mt netmask ? 255.255.255.0 ?
[01:43] <kitche> frostburn: he means opening a video by dragging the video to the application icon which can be done :)
[01:43] <ribando> hi everyone
[01:43] <frostburn> oooh
[01:43] <Pazy> Everytime I go to the installer it freezes at the bit where its detecting HDD/OS's or whatever. I have to unhook Sata to install. How can I install with Sata in?
[01:43] <CheeseGardener> yeah
[01:43] <astro76> jdt, chmod -r u+w /path/to/directory/
[01:43] <ribando> I'm having a problem with my ubuntu feisty
[01:43] <kitche> frostburn: I was trying to hlp him but I haven't used gnome/kde in a long time
[01:43] <Justi1> pedahzyur: I have plugged it in again and there are new additions to syslog, but I don't know what they mean
[01:44] <astro76> jdt, sorry it's: chmod -R u+w /path/to/directory/
[01:44] <jdt> astro76: thankyou, I will give it a try
[01:44] <pedahzur> Justi1: I really don't know.  If there are no messages in syslog, I really can't help you much from there.  :( Sorry.  Maybe file a bug?  Also, try it in another Linux Distro and see if you have the same problem.
[01:44] <jrib> kitche: don't know
[01:45] <ribando> everything's fine, apart from, every now and then, it get's way too slow, to the point that I can barely see the mouse icon moving on the screen, and the loading time is still too long, even when I remove the quiet line from the grub menu configuration
[01:45] <Justi1> http://pastebin.com/m49b8982e
[01:45] <CheeseGardener> frostburn, so do you know how to do that?
[01:45] <frostburn> CheeseGardener, trying to figure it out now =P
[01:46] <CheeseGardener> ok thx
[01:46] <pedahzur> Justi1: If you put a disk in the drive, you should be able to access as /dev/sdb
[01:46] <Kissaki> does the server version of the ubuntu installation allows us to craft the OS better like a minimum debian install?
[01:46] <geek> I just installed ubuntu using wubi. it seems to have found a wifi network itself but knetwork manager says it sees no networks. naturally i want to connect to my own network so... how do i check what SSID i am connected to?
[01:46] <acu> why dell's laptops or desktops with ubuntu are as expensive (or more) than windows ones ?
[01:46] <pedahzur> You may have to mount manually, I'm not sure.  I've never used an external floppy in Linux.
[01:46] <ribando> !Envy
[01:46] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[01:46] <geek> Kissaki: sure
[01:47] <astro76> acu, they're not they're up to $150 cheaper
[01:47] <Justi1> pedahzur: /dev/sdb doesn't exist
[01:47] <phenom> dell is only chargin 50 less for ubuntu bozes. :/
[01:47] <phenom> charging even.
[01:47] <zyth> phenom, what'd you expect?
[01:48] <zyth> thats about what they pay for Windows
[01:48] <phenom> blah, boxes too. :)
[01:48] <ribando> geek if u just place ur mouse icon in the connectivity bar, it should tell you which network ur connected to
[01:48] <phenom> From one of the easiest os's to install,, in the world??
[01:48] <phenom> :P
[01:48] <Kissaki> geek: i was wondering whether i can optimize the installation by picking only the needed packages and installing them, does it include the laptop packages and wireless stuff? I have never done that in ubuntu, but previously tried it in debian...
[01:48] <pedahzur> Justi1: This line: "unknown partition table" seems to indicate it is looking for a disk but didn't find one.  What do you see if you type "ls /dev/sd*" ?
[01:48] <frostburn> CheeseGardener, ok figured it out, create a launcher, then under the command area put /usr/bin/gmplayer %f
[01:49] <serenityUK> Lenovo announced they are to sell Linux laptops preinstalled http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6933859.stm
[01:49] <CheeseGardener> k thanks frostburn
[01:49] <kitche> serenityUK: that is old news actually
[01:49] <geek> Kissaki: my vmware installs are like that
[01:49] <pedahzur> serenityUK: But not with Ubuntu, saddly.
[01:49] <gOcOOl> can someone please tell me why the version of vim-gtk is 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 on edgy when the packages it depends on are all1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5.1
[01:49] <Justi1> pedahzur: /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb
[01:50] <Xoris> gOcOOl: what package?
[01:50] <pedahzur> Justi1: There's sdb
[01:50] <gOcOOl> this is resulting in a dependency issue for me on edgy when trying to install vim-gtk
[01:50] <phenom> Blesses his thinkpad, IBM is a true software company. Their IBM rapid restore function has saved my windows numerous times.
[01:50] <geek> ribando: mine doesn't it just says manual network configureation
[01:50] <gOcOOl> Xoris: vim-gtk
[01:50] <pedahzur> Kissaki: I don't think there are package groups in the Ubuntu, but you can do a minimal install, and then just install what you want.
[01:50] <Xoris> gOcOOl: yeah, but what's the packages it depends on
[01:50] <geek> phenom: you have it working in dual booting, or do you restore the Rnr boot loader each time?
[01:50] <gOcOOl> Xoris: vim-gui-common
[01:50] <Justi1> pedahzur: how can I access it? it doesn't appear in the gui, and the terminal says that it is not a directory
[01:51] <KanRiNiN> Can ubuntu be set to read from HFS+?  I'm thinking of converting my dual G4 to a linux file server.  Also, is there a way to make my 200GB and my 500GB seem as one drive and thus one giant samba share?  Thanks so much in advance guys.
[01:51] <phenom> Havn't worked  up the wavos, to run anything else on it yet :P
[01:51] <Kissaki> pedahzur: yeah that was what i was looking for... the minimal install like the base conf, and the gnome-core packages.... how do I select it from the server installation? does it have an option like that?
[01:51] <gOcOOl> Xoris: but vim-gui-common is 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5.1
[01:51] <pedahzur> Right /dev/sdb is a device.  The disk has to be mounted.  Try this:  Put a disk in the drive and at a prompt (as root): mkdir mnt/floppy; mount /dev/sdb /mnt/floppy
[01:51] <Xoris> gOcOOl, vim-gtk is 7.1 too, if you get it from the security repository. make sure it is enabled - you should NEVER enable "universe" for the main repository, if you don't also enable it for the "security" and "updates" repos
[01:52] <Xoris> gOcOOl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/editors/vim-gtk
[01:52] <phenom> geek: but I use IBM's big blues "Access button, which does require you to execute it at boot yes.
[01:52] <phenom> :)
[01:52] <pedahzur> Justi1: That should mount the disk.  Use umount /mnt/floppy to unmount.  Not sure why it's not auto-detecting.
[01:52] <Xoris> !repos > gOcOOl
[01:52] <galpa> #Ubuntu-es
[01:52] <geek> phenom: i thought grub broke that
[01:52] <pedahzur> Kissaki: If you do a base install, then you can, say, "apt-get install gnome" or some such after you're done with the base install.
[01:53] <huatinglu> hi, is there anyone here good with remote desktop (krdc) from ubuntu -> xp? I'm vpn'ing into work but can't remote desktop my pc. i'm pretty sure its related to iptables
[01:53] <Justi1> pedahzur: sweet, I think it worked. thanks so much
[01:53] <ribando> everything's fine, apart from, every now and then, it get's way too slow, to the point that I can barely see the mouse icon moving on the screen, and the loading time is still too long, even when I remove the quiet line from the grub menu configuration
[01:53] <ribando> I need some help
[01:53] <ribando> lol
[01:54] <frostburn> huatinglu, remote pc to a windows box?
[01:54] <pedahzur> Justi1: you're welcome.  Glad to help.
[01:54] <shiv_j> what is the difference between i396 and x86_64? What version to download for regular Pentium PCs/
[01:54] <emeriste_> Hi
[01:54] <phenom> geek: yea, I'm sure it will If I partitioned over the whole disc.
[01:54] <Kissaki> pedahzur: i dont even want whole packages of the gnome, just the core ones and other related to wireless and laptop... I guess it is same with the debian or so...
[01:54] <serenityUK> shiv_j, they are 32bit and 64bit,  get i386 for normal 32bit
[01:54] <kitche> shiv_j: i386 is everything pretty much while amd64 is for x86_64 processors
[01:55] <User919> hello, i lost the tab of applications, system, etc (the ones located at the left superior corner) what can i do to bring them back
[01:55] <emeriste_> how does this work? How can I change my name?
[01:55] <huatinglu> frostburn: yup, a co-worker confirmed its not my machine..i've been fighting with firestarter/iptables. krdc just sits are "initializing"....terminal server client just disappears when i click connect.
[01:55] <serenityUK> emeriste_, type /nick newname
[01:55] <emeriste_> Okay thanks.
[01:55] <aryr100-> hello all
[01:55] <pedahzur> Kissaki: There might be a "gnome base" type package.  Not sure.
[01:55] <shiv_j> serenityUK, thanks
[01:56] <geek> hmm
[01:56] <ribando> User919 right click on the top panel and then select "Add to panel", from there u can add it back
[01:56] <frostburn> huatinglu, another thing windows firewall is so finicky, make sure it has rdp enabled
[01:56] <aryr100-> anyone use amsn ?
[01:56] <shiv_j> kitche, thanks
[01:56] <Rayyan> i do
[01:56] <dga> when i logout of my system, i'm left with a blank screen instead of a login window. anyone know how to fix this?
[01:56] <geek> can't i connect to a WPA wifi connection? there's no option here
[01:56] <frostburn> dga, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:56] <huatinglu> frostburn: i mean "not my machine" meaning he can connect to it from his home machine (ubuntu) to my work one (xp)
[01:56] <pedahzur> dga: Is the session not logging all the way out?  Do you have to kill the XServer (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace)?
[01:56] <huatinglu> is there a rule i need to add or a port to allow to let it all pass?
[01:56] <ribando> geek u need to install wpa_supplicant
[01:57] <ribando> exit
[01:57] <dga> pedahzur: it is logging me out and i'm stuck at a blank screen. ctrl alt backspace does nothing.
[01:57] <ribando> lol
[01:57] <emerr> This is the Ubuntu Server?
[01:57] <Thatguy> emerr, yes
[01:57] <emerr> I wonder how it knew that I have Ubuntu.
[01:57] <huatinglu> frostburn: once im vpn'ed in my xp machine doesnt really have a firewall
[01:57] <dga> frostburn: ok
[01:57] <frostburn> huatinglu, i've been having problems with vpn'ing as well =|
[01:57] <serenityUK> This is one channel, there are many
[01:57] <huatinglu> hmmmm
[01:58] <Thatguy> emerr, what you mean?
[01:58] <aryr100-> getting this error when starting:loading  TkCximage failed ?
[01:58] <emerr> I see. This is the channel #ubuntu on the Ubuntu Server I guess.
[01:58] <emerr> (Sorry I'm sorting this out).
[01:58] <kitche> emerr: well it's on freenode
[01:58] <Kissaki> anyone that can give me advise on partition for a clean install? Would 7 gb of hdd space be enough for the installation of "/" and other system files (excluding /home)?
[01:58] <emerr> But I guess there are many channels on this server.
[01:58] <frostburn> Kissaki, more than enough
[01:58] <phenom> emerr: chan #Ubuntu Server: FreeNode
[01:58] <serenityUK> yes lots of different free software channels
[01:58] <kitche> emerr: over 50k or so
[01:58] <ribando> emerr ubuntu channel on the freenode server
[01:59] <emerr> Okay.
[01:59] <yohan> Does anyone have any idea? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3141248#post3141248
[01:59] <phenom> :)
[01:59] <aryr100-> anyone know about this error with amsn ?
[01:59] <emerr> In this chat client it says "Ubuntu Servers" with a drop down menu that includes one channel #ubuntu
[01:59] <TheCreationist> My friend recently moved to a new apartment and no longer has a wireless internet connection (instead she has a high-speed ethernet connection).  The problem is, Ubuntu no longer connects to the network for her.  It recognizes the ethernet card, but hangs when listening for DHCP.  Anything we can do?
[01:59] <emerr> why wouldn't it let me change my nickname to emeriste?
[01:59] <Kissaki> frostburn: but ill install some other stuff like the plugins and an IDE but they are not that large.... Also, do you have an advice for tthe swap partition? i generally use ratio of ram/swap as 1/2...
[02:00] <emerr> That's hard to believe that it's already taken.
[02:00] <Thatguy> My comp was fine, I rebooted, xserver crashed, I couldn't fix it, I reinstalled ubuntu and now I still have the same problem with the xserver not working. Can I safely assume that its a hardware problem and I need to get a new video card?
[02:00] <frostburn> Kissaki, swap should be 1.5x ram size.  base install is something like 2g or so
[02:00] <ribando> can I get some help on how to be able to watch divx videos from websites?for example, stage6.
[02:00] <serenityUK> emerr,  if you click on the Ubuntu Servers you should be able to read the error messaage from the server, such as Nick in Use
[02:01] <astro76> ribando, on stage6 you just have to click the save icon instead of stream
[02:01] <jrib> emerr: it is taken (by you on gaim)
[02:01] <emerr> Oh I see. Freenode is an IRC network which is especially for people interested in various open source software?
[02:01] <User919> I cant regroupe all the applications in one group that way
[02:01] <phenom> emerr: try /stats p and ask an op to drop it for you if you really want it, hence
[02:01] <phenom> 
[02:01] <huatinglu> frost: you have any specific issues vpn'ing? i was able to get that going
[02:01] <kitche> emerr: someones is on with that nick maybe you?
[02:01] <emerr> phenom -- That's incredible for so many reasons (the first of which is that you are able to know that).
[02:02] <ribando> astro76 lol...the funny thing is, that I managed to get it working before reinstalling my ubuntu feisty, but I had a problem, and I had to reinstall the OS, and now, I can't remember how I did that, but then...someone here helped me out, which I can't also remember.lol
[02:02] <emerr> I am using gaim . I did try to get onto IRC with it but I didn't think I succeeded.
[02:02] <johncasdfas> anyone have a recommended ISP for dedicated servers
[02:02] <ribando> emerr kopete is a good one as well :o
[02:02] <kitche> emerr: well i seems like you did
[02:02] <serenityUK> i am using xchat
[02:02] <ribando> !kopete
[02:02] <emerr> Yes it's me who's on with the name. I didn't realize that it successfuly got on. It wasn't clear with GAIM how to get to a channel.
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <frostburn> huatinglu, well, i gave up on getting the network-manager-openvpn working.  there's some weird routing happening from console
[02:03] <frostburn> bbr
[02:03] <gOcOOl> Xoris: thanks! I'm going to enable "universe" for edgy-security but is there a "universe" for "edgy-updates"?
[02:03] <emerr> That's amazing. How could you tell that my GAIM had me logged in like that?
[02:03] <kitche> emerr: I /whois the other nick
[02:04] <serenityUK> emerr, that other name with die in a little while from lack of use
[02:04] <emerr> well that's really impressive.
[02:04] <emerr> I didn't realize that I had gotten into IRC with GAIM . I think maybe I can just close it myself.. One second.
[02:05] <Kissaki> frostburn: what is the best video player for the linux btw, kde or gnome does not matter, just based on performance and codec availability? currently i am using gxine but i am not satisfied enough with it?
[02:05] <Thatguy> which card is easier to use with ubuntu, ATI or Nvidia?
[02:05] <dfarje> hello, anyone ever used a tool called nemesis/
[02:05] <dfarje> ?
[02:05] <Pelo> Thatguy, intel
[02:05] <serenityUK> Nvidia all the way!!
[02:05] <emeriste> There we go. Much better now.
[02:05] <Justi1> nvidia, ati is a nightmare
[02:05] <serenityUK> nvidia have the best drivers
[02:05] <Thatguy> Isn't intel ATI?
[02:05] <phenom> now register it emeriste :) /msg nickserv register PASSWORD
[02:05] <Justi1> amd is ati
[02:06] <serenityUK> no amd bought ati
[02:06] <phenom> then /stats p and ask an op to cloack it for you :)
[02:06] <Justi1> my friend has a amd processer with an integrated nvidia card
[02:06] <serenityUK> nvidia even release current drivers for solaris and bsd
[02:06] <Pazy> Guys I need some serious help, I cant boot into either of my OS's or reinstall Ubuntu (or Kubuntu)
[02:07] <TheCreationist> My friend recently moved to a new apartment and no longer has a wireless internet connection (instead she has a high-speed ethernet connection).  The problem is, Ubuntu no longer connects to the network for her.  It recognizes the ethernet card, but hangs when listening for DHCP.  Anything we can do?
[02:07] <Pelo> Pazy,  how come you can't even reinstall ?
[02:07] <Thatguy> so, Nvidia is the way to go? I'm gonna be using Beryl and I wanna make things easy on myself
[02:07] <phenom> Pazy: forget bios password? :P
[02:07] <emeriste> Excellent. Thanks again.
[02:07] <MasterShrek> Thatguy, nvidia is definately the best choice
[02:08] <Justi1> thatguy: use nvidia. I have a ati and it took several weeks to setup beryl, and it isn't that great
[02:08] <emeriste> I ought to have known that an ubuntu channel would be the most friendly in all of cyberspace.
[02:08] <frostburn> TheCreationist, reboot the ap?
[02:08] <Pazy> Pelo: When the install goes to the 'prepare disk space' bit it freezes. I can get it to run by removing my Sata (I have WinXP on Sata and Kubuntu on IDE) but then I have problems booting into XP
[02:08] <dfarje> dudes, anyone everuse a tool called NEMESIS?
[02:08] <serenityUK> btw Thatguy I replaced Beryl with Compiz-fusion, beryl is no longer developed they have jioned forces, you get newer effects like relection on compiz fusion
[02:08] <dfarje> anyone know where I can find some tutorials or documentation on NEMESIS?
[02:09] <serenityUK> reflection
[02:09] <pedro_> what file do i edit to change my default session?
[02:09] <Pelo> Pazy, leave the sata  drive in,  but before you start the install process prepare your partitions with gparted, you need / , /swap /home,   preformat them, and whenyou are ready to intall,  select manual for theisntallation location so you can specify which is which
[02:09] <serenityUK> System->Prefs->Sessions
[02:09] <Thatguy> ok thanks guys, Nvidia it is. I'm pretty sure my onoard vid cad is dead because my xserver suddenly crashed and not even a COMPLETE reinstall could fix it
[02:10] <frostburn> pedro_, on the login screen, change it there
[02:10] <TheCreationist> frostburn: Her entire system has been restarted several times.  Even tried restarting the network, but nothing.
[02:10] <pedro_> frostburn: im using ssh right now
[02:10] <emeriste> So I think I just registered this name on the entire freenode network?
[02:10] <Justi1> if I need to move a file /folder/file to /newfold, what should I type in terminal?
[02:10] <pedro_> thats why i asked what file do i edit to change my default session?
[02:10] <Pelo> emeriste,  that's how it works you regesier on a netowrk
[02:11] <emeriste> pelo cool
[02:11] <kwierso_> justil: mv
[02:11] <nawz> hello all, i use a higher end nvidia card but ubuntu will not let me change to 1600x1200@85hz refresh, all my refresh rates are 60hz or below. Can i fix this?
[02:11] <geek> i'm a bit rusty but i think the command is mv
[02:11] <Pazy> I ran Gparted (had to install on Konsole) and it said 'detecting all devices' or something similer, I left it for half an hour and nothing came up.
[02:11] <nawz> justil, mv is the command
[02:11] <emeriste> Justil  -- don't you type mv /folder/file /newfold
[02:11] <Kissaki> are there any better media players than gxine? i am thinking of switching it, but cant get enough recommendations...
[02:11] <Pelo> Pazy,  you might have to try the alternate install cd
[02:11] <Pazy> VLC is my fave media player
[02:11] <frostburn> TheCreationist, are you able to access the AP through a wired connection? all i can suggest is seeing if it sees her nic
[02:12] <frostburn> brb
[02:12] <Pazy> Alternate install CD?
[02:12] <Justi1> I know ts mv, but i need to know the format of the arguments
[02:12] <Justi1> its*
[02:12] <serenityUK> nawz, if you have the nvidia drivers from their website, you can type nvidia-settings for a control panel to setup your screen
[02:12] <emeriste> How safe is it to chat with linux through xchat on an arbitrary IRC network?
[02:12] <nawz> ok thanks serenityUK ill give that a try
[02:12] <emeriste> I think I've heard things about being wary about IRC
[02:12] <Pelo> Pazy,  it is text based, generaly less demanding when you do the installation,  it help,  but consider I'm starting to wonder ifyour hdd may be defective,  or maybe a cable problem
[02:12] <anzan>  !botsnack
[02:12] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:12] <serenityUK> nawz, better use gksudo nvidia-settings so that you can save to the xorg.conf file as root
[02:13] <Pazy> Well once I can get into WinXP it works fine. No slow down no problems. Its just the Linux installing thats a problem
[02:14] <Pelo> Pazy,  I'm sorry I though they were on diffrent hdd,  my mistake, , anyway that's all I have for you
[02:14] <phenom> emeriste: xchat, is about as good as your going to get for an irc client. As with any IRC client, don't type other people commands unless you know what they do.
[02:14] <Pazy> They are on diffrent HDD lol, its Sata - WinXP   IDE-Kubuntu
[02:14] <wepeel> hi all, when I do an fdisk -l I can see my usb drive, but it won't automount and I can't access it. What should I do?
[02:14] <Paradox34690> okay, anyone good at fixing up wireless drivers with 7.04?
[02:14] <phenom> Especially in (que que que) mIIRC.
[02:15] <pedro_> what file do i edit to change my default session?
[02:15] <phenom> (ha ha ha)
[02:15] <RoboticTao> wepeel: what kind of filesystem is it?
[02:15] <emeriste> It appears that we can easily see other's ISP adresses and maybe the name of their user account on their system?
[02:15] <Pelo> Pazy,  like I said,  try the alternate install cd it migth do the trick
[02:15] <wepeel> it also says "Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings"
[02:15] <nawz> serenityUK, thanks so much it worked just fine! im at the resolution i need right now
[02:15] <Pazy> Wheres that?
[02:15] <wepeel> RoboticTao, FAT16
[02:15] <emeriste> phenom - Sounds good.
[02:15] <serenityUK> nawz, better use gksudo nvidia-settings so that you can save to the xorg.conf file as root
[02:15] <Pelo> Pazy,  on the site
[02:15] <phenom> well, safest form of ircing is through Telnet :P
[02:15] <nawz> i did a sudo nvidia-settings
[02:15] <nawz> is that the same thing?
[02:15] <RoboticTao> sudo mkdir /media/disk; sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdx /media/disk
[02:15] <serenityUK> nawz you see there is a button to write to xorg.conf?
[02:16] <nawz> yes i did that
[02:16] <serenityUK> nawz good good
[02:16] <nawz> thanks so much
[02:16] <emeriste> What is the n=chris@216.228.45.254 thing?
[02:16] <serenityUK> nawz it's great i setup dual monitors of different sizes/resolutions
[02:16] <TheCreationist> Is it possible to find out a user's password on my own system if I am the administrator?
[02:16] <kitche> emeriste: don't use root and you'll be fine :) on irc
[02:16] <jrib> emeriste: you can cloak your ip if you want
[02:16] <ConstyXIV> TheCreationist: no
[02:16] <jrib> !cloak > emeriste (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:16] <nawz> now i just need to figure out why audio and video will not play together, but its fine seperatly
[02:17] <wepeel> RoboticTao, wrong fs type, bad option bad superblock on sda1
[02:17] <emeriste> I'm not paranoid or anything and maybe this isn't the appropriate place to be asking these questions. I'm just curious.
[02:17] <TheCreationist> ConstyXIV: Not possible to login to their account without changing their password?
[02:17] <wepeel> RoboticTao, my other flash drive works
[02:17] <ConstyXIV> TheCreationist: nope, but you can access their files if you have root
[02:17] <jrib> TheCreationist: you can login with 'sudo -i -u USERNAME' for example
[02:17] <Pelo> emeriste,  maybe you should join #xchat for those questions, they can help you a bit better
[02:17] <kitche> TheCreationist: you can login as root to the other user real easy though
[02:18] <emeriste> Pelo - Oh excellent. Thanks I didn't know there was a room like that.
[02:18] <casperzshado> find commands for starting programs on boot?
[02:18] <Pelo> emeriste, there is a channel for everthing
[02:18] <TheCreationist> Well, I'd like to be able to login to their account with full GUI access.  Not possible?
[02:18] <serenityUK> emeriste, look for a button to get channel list
[02:18] <emeriste> Thanks. This seems like a great channel. I will come back when I know more about IRC and about Ubuntu.
[02:18] <TheCreationist> kitche: How would I do that?
[02:19] <LiberCogito> !cloak | LiberCogito
[02:19] <kitche> TheCreationist: well not sure how to do it gui wise but in a consoel you can just do sudo su - <user> I don't know how to do it without su -
[02:20] <pedro_> what file do i edit to change my default session?
[02:20] <jrib> kitche: without su -: sudo -i -u USERNAME   is equivalent I believe
[02:20] <emeriste> It looks like freenode is a very large network. 72260 users on 3063 channels?
[02:20] <Slasher`> hi people, does anyone know about or have any experience with thinkfinger?
[02:21] <Pelo> pedro_,  depends on what you want to change
[02:21] <Slasher`> !thikfinger
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thikfinger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <pedro_> Pelo: just want to change the default window manager
[02:21] <phenom> emeriste: No better way to learn IRC and Ubuntu, than on #Ubuntu on IRC. There are no stupid question here, just non thought out ones. :)
[02:21] <Pelo> pedro_,  you want kde ?
[02:21] <serenityUK> emeriste, and that is for a monday night! bigger on weekends
[02:21] <kitche> jrib: yeah think it is now that you mention it
[02:21] <newbie07> hi i set up my wireless with ndiswrapper but it doesn't work.  The blue thing just spins
[02:21] <jrib> pedro_: gdm should prompt you if you want to make it default when you change it by pressing "options" at the login window
[02:21] <emeriste> Cool.
[02:21] <pedro_> jrib: need to do this over ssh
[02:22] <newbie07> how do i set up my wireless network?  the connection icon just spins but doesn't connect
[02:22] <hackle577> hey all, i need some help with my new computer, X wont start on boot
[02:22] <casperzshado> how do i find commands i want to start beryl and ktorrent on boot?
[02:23] <Pelo> casperzshado, menu > system> prefs > sessions : add them there, donT' forget to save sessons
[02:23] <pedro_> what file do i edit to change my default window manager at boot?
[02:24] <Thatguy> serenityUK, Really? is Compiz-Fusion still easy to install like Beryl was? Is it more demanding on the system? is it less buggy?
[02:24] <newbie07> anyone know how to set up a wireless connection for fiesty?
[02:24] <Pelo> pedro_,  look in /etc/init.d
[02:24] <casperzshado> Pelo, i dont know what the commands are for the programs though, how do i find that out?
[02:24] <RoboticTao> !boot
[02:24] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:24] <Davy_Jones> pedro_: you don't have to edit files.. choose the WM and make it default when asked
[02:24] <Pelo> !wifi | newbie07
[02:24] <ubotu> newbie07: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:24] <Davy_Jones> pedro_: in the login screen
[02:24] <pedro_> Pelo: thanks
[02:24] <RoboticTao> !cloak>RoboticTao:
[02:24] <dasickis> hey
[02:24] <RoboticTao> !cloak
[02:24] <ubotu> Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[02:24] <dasickis> i was wondering is http://kernelsec.cr0.org/
[02:25] <Pelo> casperzshado,  in linux, generaly,  the commands to start progs are just their names,   so ktorrent, and whatever the other one is,    no path needed,  you can try them out in the terminal first
[02:25] <dasickis> a safe place or an advised place to get the GrSecurity/PaX patches?
[02:25] <Pelo> dasickis,  all the security patches you need for ubuntu will come throught the update system, no need for anything else
[02:26] <hackle577> hey all, i need some help with my new computer, X wont start on boot
[02:26] <Pelo> hackle577,  new install ?  did it ever start or is this a new problem ?
[02:26] <hackle577> Pelo: brand spankin new
[02:26] <dasickis> Pelo: I know, but I wanted to harden this system a little mroe
[02:26] <Pelo> hackle577,  what video card ?
[02:27] <dasickis> Pelo: So I was browsing some articles and I wanted to install these kernel patches
[02:27] <hackle577> Pelo: nVidia GeForce 7300GS
[02:27] <jrib> pedro_: for gdm?
[02:27] <serenityUK> Thatguy, Compiz was the first and original. then some people forked it to make Beryl, based on same code but more exiting effects because compiz folk worried about stability.. After a year of war and jealously they remerged recently into Compiz-Fusion, to bring the new plugins back into Compiz.. Now if you want the latest stuff you have to get COmpiz-Fusion
[02:27] <dasickis> Pelo: these typically minimize the threat
[02:27] <newbie07> does ubuntu have any stores in NYC?
[02:27] <hackle577> Pelo: I made a thread on UF http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=519234
[02:27] <Pelo> hackle577,  is ubuntu installed or are you still trying to get the live cd going ?
[02:27] <dasickis> newbie07: I don't think Ubuntu has stores
[02:27] <hackle577> Pelo: it's installed
[02:28] <Pelo> hackle577, try this
[02:28] <Pelo> !nvidia | hackle577
[02:28] <ubotu> hackle577: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:28] <Paradox34690> If I want to remove a driver that I installed using the ndisgtk package, how would I go about doing so?
[02:28] <Pelo> dasickis, have a look at this isntead, http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/block_brute_force_attacks_with_iptables/
[02:29] <jrib> newbie07: why?
[02:30] <phenom> hackle557: Also check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:30] <Pelo> newbie07, I donT' thkink ubuntu has stores,  it's a pcs of free sotware you get online, or by mail,,  no need for stores realy
[02:30] <Wintersmith> !startup
[02:30] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[02:30] <Wintersmith> !boot
[02:30] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:30] <Paradox34690> Newbie07, what are ya trying to find out?
[02:30] <Moreno> #ubuntu-mx
[02:30] <newbie07> jrib, i was hoping to ask more questions in there
[02:30] <phenom> hackle557: Check out the Undetected monitor specs section.
[02:30] <Pelo> Moreno,   /join #ubuntu-mx
[02:31] <Thatguy> serenityUK, ohic, thanks for the update. I knew compiz-fuson was out there but I never thought about using it. Your right though, the newest thing out gets the attetion and work force so regular old Beryl will most likely be left in the cold. Or are they actually going to officially discontinue Beryl?
[02:31] <serenityUK> already happened.
[02:33] <niter3> How can I list installed packages?
[02:33] <dasickis> Pelo: so if i want this to work for my wireless do i just create for rules one for eth0 and one for eth1, my wireless?
[02:33] <jrib> niter3: aptitude search '~i'
[02:33] <Pelo> niter3, use synaptic, you can dispaly them in a number of ways,
[02:33] <pedro_> jrib: gdm, yes... sorry, i was looking in that folder Pelo told me to look in
[02:33] <jrib> newbie07: you understand Ubuntu is free to download and distribute?  They don't really have stores, but if you are looking for a physical place where people can help you, you might want to try to contact the Local Community team for New York.  Here's some info about them: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam .  They have an irc channel too at #ubuntu-ny .  But remember you can ask us questions here too
[02:34] <niter3> Pelo: I need a way from the console
[02:34] <newbie07> thanks jrib
[02:34] <Pelo> niter3,  what jrib  suggested then
[02:34] <niter3> Pelo: I need a more detail search. I need to search for a specific package that is installed and see what version it is.
[02:35] <jrib> niter3: you name the name of the package?
[02:35] <Pelo> niter3,  try apt-cache search  packagename
[02:35] <niter3> Pelo: no luck with that either
[02:36] <jrib> niter3: erm, you *know* the name of the package?
[02:36] <Pelo> niter3, man apt check out the various options
[02:36] <serenityUK> niter3, try dpkg -p packagename
[02:36] <niter3> jrib: yes
[02:36] <jrib> niter3: apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME
[02:36] <serenityUK> niter3, try dpkg -p packagename
[02:37] <niter3> that worked
[02:37] <niter3> thanks
[02:39] <VINCHENZO28> what are the repositories for beryl?
[02:39] <Pelo> !beryl | VINCHENZO28
[02:39] <ubotu> VINCHENZO28: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:39] <VINCHENZO28> what does !beryl mean?
[02:40] <Pelo> hmm, I thought it would hve a link to a wiki
[02:40] <olbaidollople> hello all, wondering if someone had time for a ubuntu 7.04 noob question
[02:40] <Rockinghorse> serenityUK: /var/lib/dpkg/status has all your installed pkgs
[02:40] <Pelo> VINCHENZO28, it's a trigger for the bot to give you info
[02:40] <jrib> !ask | olbaidollople
[02:40] <ubotu> olbaidollople: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:40] <VINCHENZO28> !beryl
[02:40] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:40] <imbecile> PLEASE. how do i i change his splash theme? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Carbonite-Ubuntu?content=57693
[02:40] <olbaidollople> awesome :)
[02:40] <aslam> will a hp psc 1315 printer work in ubuntu
[02:41] <Pelo> aslam,  check here  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:41] <YouKnowMe> aslam, I'll check hold on
[02:41] <aslam> thanks
[02:41] <serenityUK> VINCHENZ028 that is a way of talking to the bots
[02:41] <jrib> pedro_: good question.  I'm not sure what you would need to edit.  If your local system has gdm, try changing it locally with the gui and then scanning ~/.* for changes .  You might *try* ~/.xsession and see if that works, but I'm pretty sure the gui will do it a different way
[02:41] <imbecile> anybody?
[02:41] <Pelo> !theme | imbecile  the info is in there somewhere
[02:41] <ubotu> imbecile  the info is in there somewhere: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:42] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know if a good program to  move files to my MP3 player?  It's a iriver clix 2gb. ????
[02:42] <olbaidollople> okay, like I said, i'm new at this. i recently obtained a spyware ridden windows desktop... and since i couldn't find any of the documentation or original software for the machine...
[02:42] <imbecile> Pelo:  thanks
[02:42] <olbaidollople> i decided to put 7.04 on it and play around... and i love it... with a couple exceptions
[02:42] <Pelo> CheeseGardener,  does your mp3 player mount as a usb mass storrage ?
[02:42] <CheeseGardener> No Pelo, it does not.
[02:43] <Pelo> CheeseGardener,  try with amarok or gtkpod
[02:43] <olbaidollople> 1) it seems to have installed some basic graphics drivers which are very lacking
[02:43] <CheeseGardener> Amarok doesn't work with my MP3 player
[02:43] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  what is your vidoe card ?
[02:43] <olbaidollople> and 2) i can't seem to acquire / install an appropriate wireless card
[02:43] <olbaidollople> that's the thing, i have no idea
[02:43] <CheeseGardener> it uses MTP to communicate
[02:43] <olbaidollople> i don't have the documentation or original disks
[02:43] <olbaidollople> it appears to be an onboard video card of some sort... nothing fancy
[02:44] <jrib> !enter | olbaidollople
[02:44] <ubotu> olbaidollople: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:44] <olbaidollople> sorry, my fault.
[02:44] <Pelo> olbaidollople, menu > system > admin > restricted drivers,  try that first for the video
[02:44] <Pelo> !wifi | olbaidollople  this is for the wifi installation
[02:44] <ubotu> olbaidollople  this is for the wifi installation: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:44] <Rprp> Does someone know how i can stream music to an shoutcast server?
[02:45] <olbaidollople> i looked through there and couldn't find anything... i DO know the appropriate make and model of the wireless driver, and i have installed wine
[02:45] <olbaidollople> when i click restricted drivers i'm told "your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"
[02:45] <Pelo> CheeseGardener,  consider checking out the iriver site for some info and also search the forum for Iriver, there might be something there
[02:45] <CheeseGardener> I'll try Pelo.
[02:46] <Pelo> olbaidollople, is this a lcd screen ?
[02:46] <olbaidollople> yes it is an lcd screen
[02:46] <serenityUK> iriver has ogg support, it's popular with linux ppl
[02:46] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  menu > system > prefs > fonts,  try enabling the subpixel hinting ,    that might help
[02:47] <Pelo> serenityUK,  but he can't transfer files, which is very odd
[02:47] <frostburn> iriver clix is a bitch to get running in linux, careful
[02:47] <serenityUK> pelo i just meant the forums should be fruitful
[02:47] <Pelo> frostburn,  if you have info on that share it with CheeseGardener
[02:47] <olbaidollople> that doesn't help. it's more of a matter of resolution. i know this video card AND lcd are capable of a better resolution.
[02:48] <frostburn> CheeseGardener, Pelo, i just ended up using vmware and running winflp and passing the usb device through
[02:48] <CheeseGardener> huh?
[02:48] <CheeseGardener> isn't that dangerous to use vmware with a hard drive?
[02:48] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  ah, now we are getting somewhere,    in the terminal ,  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf you can add the extra resolutions you need ther
[02:48] <olbaidollople> also, trying to install any games and/or graphically intensive programs does not work, as it won't recognize some of the 3d functionalities of the video card
[02:48] <mzuverink> In samba I have shared many dirs, but when I go to them the system says cant display, maybe they have bee deleted...  How can I fix this?
[02:48] <frostburn> probably, but that's how i got mine working
[02:49] <CheeseGardener> hmmm...
[02:49] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  it would be helpfull if we knew what the video card was ...
[02:49] <CheeseGardener> I can't even see it as being recognized
[02:49] <CheeseGardener> I suppose it would be /dev/sdb2?
[02:49] <olbaidollople> right... i would love that as well. any one know a good way to find out? :)
[02:49] <Pelo> CheeseGardener,  possibly,  try mounting it manualy see what happens
[02:50] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  is this a laptop ?
[02:50] <frostburn> CheeseGardener, mine wasn't recognized, simply because it wasn't a ums device
[02:50] <olbaidollople> no it's a desktop
[02:50] <CheeseGardener> no luck
[02:50] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  you could try googling your motherboard model, see what comes up
[02:50] <serenityUK> CheeseGardener, you can type  sudo lshw  to see what is detected and   sudo fdisk -l   to see disks
[02:50] <frostburn> olbaidollople, ubuntu didn't detect mine, did a manual install
[02:50] <olbaidollople> hmm... will this motherboard model be printed somewhere on the actual motherboard?
[02:51] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  you could also look in the bios settings, maybe there is some info there
[02:51] <CheeseGardener> It's not picking up at all.
[02:51] <CheeseGardener> :(
[02:51] <frostburn> CheeseGardener, what model?
[02:51] <CheeseGardener> Iriver Clix 2GB U10
[02:51] <frostburn> it won't work
[02:51] <CheeseGardener> It uses MTP
[02:51] <Pelo> olbaidollople ...  what kind of a computer is this,  hp ? dell ? or some mom and pop store ?
[02:51] <frostburn> i've heard people using amarok and getting mtp working, but haven't heard of any clix working
[02:52] <CheeseGardener> no clix doesn't work on it
[02:52] <CheeseGardener> there is one tiny program that does work.
[02:52] <olbaidollople> in the xorg.conf file, i see a number of SubSection "Display" fields, with various depths and modes... can i just add the mode that i want to any of the modes fields?
[02:52] <CheeseGardener> gnomad2 works, but it has one problem
[02:52] <frostburn> your next best bet is to run windows in a vm with mediaplayer
[02:52] <olbaidollople> this is a compaq presario
[02:52] <CheeseGardener> when it writes the files, they show up artistless
[02:52] <CheeseGardener> and albumless.
[02:52] <olbaidollople> model s4000nx
[02:52] <frostburn> o
[02:52] <frostburn> oo you got that working?
[02:52] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  as long as your motheboar can supprot it
[02:52] <CheeseGardener> Yes gnomad works, it picks up some sort of device
[02:52] <Kissaki> i got a partition that is ntfs... i want to delete that partition, how can i do it?
[02:52] <CheeseGardener> it's verrrrry crude.  But it works.
[02:52] <serenityUK> CheeseGardener, from www: The clix is currently an MTP-only unit. While Linux is not an officially supported operating system for the U10, third-party software such as libmtp allows access to most of its features.
[02:52] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  as long as your video card can support it i meant
[02:53] <frostburn> Kissaki, fdisk
[02:53] <olbaidollople> it doesn't matter which subsection i add it to? as in the depth doesn't matter?
[02:53] <serenityUK> CheeseGardener, http://sourceforge.net/projects/libmtp/
[02:53] <frostburn> Kissaki, or gparted
[02:53] <CheeseGardener> ok thanks serenity!!!!
[02:53] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  ok you have your computer make and model,  now go to the compaq webste ( google if you must) and find the spec sheet
[02:53] <olbaidollople> and that should have my video card model? once i've figured that out, where can i go for an appropriate driver?
[02:54] <Pelo> olbaidollople, add the res you need to each depth,  follow the ssyntax carefully
[02:54] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  come back here and we will tell you
[02:54] <olbaidollople> perfect
[02:54] <boxrock> anyone know where Screen Resolution values come from (on a thin-client GUI)? widescreen are missing for me. thanks.
[02:54] <Kissaki> frostburn: thanks
[02:54] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  make a print out of everthing , it will come in handy
[02:56] <CheeseGardener> serenityUK, how do I install libmtp?????
[02:56] <frostburn> apt-get install libmtp or use the synaptic package manager
[02:56] <Pelo> sudo apt-get install libmtp
[02:57] <olbaidollople> looking... so far the only info i can find is "video Integrated Intel Extreme Graphics with up to 32MB shared memory"
[02:57] <olbaidollople> which, by the way, ew. i didn't realize it was that bad.
[02:57] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  that is natively supported, mostly, you shouldn'T need any extra drivers unless it is a 915 I thnk
[02:57] <setite> anyoen here have nokia n770 or n800.. i need help
[02:57] <CheeseGardener> frostburn, I clicked "add downloaded package" or something, and now when I search in synpatics, it lists it there.
[02:58] <CheeseGardener> Now, is synpatics looking to the "folder" I told it, for the software?  Or did synpatics install it?
[02:58] <CheeseGardener> Did synpatics install it somewhere?
[02:58] <frostburn> after search, click on the box, mark for installation, hit apply
[02:58] <frostburn> yep
[02:58] <CheeseGardener> it says already installed
[02:58] <CheeseGardener> maybe reinstallation?
[02:58] <frostburn> nah
[02:58] <olbaidollople> hmm so i can just add the appropriate resolutions to the xorg.conf file and i should be good to go? happen to know what resolutions this video card will support?
[02:58] <frostburn> i haven't played with it yet
[02:59] <Pelo> olbaidollople, not realy,
[02:59] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  what do you have a regular screen or a wide one ?
[02:59] <olbaidollople> looks to be a standard 4 x 3 aspect ratio to me
[02:59] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  try 1280x1024
[02:59] <frostburn> olbaidollople, most likely your video card can support the lcd size and all lower resolutions
[02:59] <serenityUK> CheeseGardener, you need to compile it:   ./configure      make   and  sudo make install.       this page is a bit old but might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135845
[03:00] <frostburn> olbaidollople, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:01] <jajagabour> hey all can you help me
[03:01] <jajagabour> i have an error and im new to this
[03:01] <jajagabour> root@david-ubuntu:/home/david/Desktop# ./flasher-3.0 --enable-rd-mode
[03:01] <jajagabour> -bash: ./flasher-3.0: Permission denied
[03:01] <jajagabour> why am i getting permission denied
[03:01] <Pelo> jajagabour,   sudo ./flash.....
[03:01] <jajagabour> i tried.. but ill try again
[03:02] <plowdawg> jajagabour: because you probably don't permission to execute the file. what does "ls -l flasher-3.0" give you?
[03:02] <olbaidollople> okay sorry, i've tried to add the new resolution i desire to the xorg.conf file... then i clicked save... but it doesn't appear in the desktop resolution menu option... was there something more i needed to do?
[03:02] <dasickis> Is an antivirus recommended for Ubuntu? I've heard conflicting reports so I want to know the general consensus
[03:03] <Pelo> olbaidollople,  you need to restart X   ctrl alt backpsace
[03:03] <jajagabour> root@david-ubuntu:/home/david/Desktop# ./flasher-3.0 --enable-rd-mode
[03:03] <jajagabour> -bash: ./flasher-3.0: Permission denied
[03:03] <plowdawg> dasickis: no
[03:03] <Pelo> dasickis, you donT' realy need one but clamav is good and avast now makes a very nice linux version, check on their site
[03:03] <jajagabour> shit whoops rwrong paste
[03:03] <Pelo> jajagabour,  sudo chmod 755  fileneame
[03:03] <CoasterMaster> I'm running XGL (with Compiz-Fusion), is there anyway to quickly switch to an X.org session while keeping my XGL session intact?
[03:03] <jajagabour> plowdawg: -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 40236 2007-08-06 17:34 flasher-3.0
[03:04] <plowdawg> dasickis: but if you are afraid of ever passing a virus onto a windows machine, you can get one
[03:04] <dasickis> Pelo and plowdawg I thought so
[03:04] <CheeseGardener> serenityUK, I download the tar.gz for libmtp
[03:04] <dasickis> plowdawg: yeah, I do a lot of testing
[03:04] <serenityUK> dasickis, the lack of viruses is one of the main reasons to use linux.. i would not slow you machine down with an unesseay a/v scanner
[03:04] <Pelo> CoasterMaster,  ask in #ubuntu-effects , tehy would know
[03:04] <CheeseGardener> Can I install from this????
[03:04] <dasickis> serenityUK: ok
[03:04] <CoasterMaster> Pelo: thanks
[03:04] <Pelo> CheeseGardener,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[03:04] <dasickis> serenityUK: well I've just been reading a lot of talks of security vulns in the kernel
[03:04] <plowdawg> jajagabour: see the "-rw" part in that? it means that you do not have permission to execute that program
[03:05] <frostburn> i woudln't even recommend a virus scanner in windows, provided you know what you're doing
[03:05] <kritical> dasickis, if you learn how the user permissions work under Linux you'll find that that don't get viri as such, unlike Windows it's a lot harder to compromise your Ubuntu OS, search wiki for the definition of a 'Rootkit' and 'Expliot'
[03:05] <jajagabour> ok plowdawg Pelo thanks.. than did it
[03:05] <dasickis> kritical: I know what Rootkits and exploits are
[03:05] <phenom> dasickis: setup iptables/firestarter; constaltly update; stay out of root. Other than that install chrootkit to help you sleep. And don't let anyone tell you nix viruses don't exist.
[03:05] <dasickis> kritical: I know what user permissinos are as well
[03:06] <serenityUK> dasickis, they are probably talking about theoretical attacks from hackers not viruses.. they plan ahead like the military for potential attacks
[03:06] <dasickis> phenom: Yeah
[03:06] <dasickis> serenityUK: yeah I want to get involved in security so i want to start with my box
[03:06] <kritical> dasickis, cool, then instead of an antivirus scanner you might want to look into iptables and different rootkit checkers, sorry I wasn't trying to shoot you down, I was trying to help
[03:06] <plowdawg> does anyone know of a wireless usb dongle or pcmcia card that is fully supported by ubuntu in networkmanager with wpa?
[03:06] <plowdawg> the wireless situation is awful
[03:07] <serenityUK> dasickis, if you arer really interested look at OpenBSD.  they love security, everything has encryption built in.. but it is not so friendly
[03:07] <dasickis> kritical: no problem I understood
[03:07] <kritical> dasickis, we only run virus scanners on our machines to scan for Windows Virus's to protect the non-linux machines on our network..
[03:07] <kritical> IE on shared drives and the mail systems
[03:07] <dasickis> serenityUK: yeah I heard about them, I'm used Ubuntu for 2 years so I'm starting to get more comfortable with the Unix environ
[03:08] <CheeseGardener> Pelo, I'm confused... I have a libmtp-0.2.0.tar.gz file, on my desktop
[03:08] <CheeseGardener> Could you walk me through this?  I want to make  it easy to uninstall
[03:08] <CheeseGardener> through synaptics
[03:08] <dasickis> kritical: that's pretty amazing
[03:08] <serenityUK> if i was CIA or James Bond i would use OpendBSD
[03:08] <serenityUK> OPenBSD
[03:08] <Pelo> CheeseGardener,  with a tar.gz file you need to compile it manualy,    that link I gave you has instructions on how to do it
[03:08] <dhtechs> having a hell of a time with nvidia restricted drivers...api mismatches, etc...how do I clean the modules out after using the restricted driver manager and envy?
[03:09] <dasickis> serenityUK: The only thing holdng me back is Ubuntu's rapid development cycle
[03:09] <plowdawg> are thre no wireless usb/pcmcia devices that work?
[03:09] <Pelo> CheeseGardener,  why are you doing all this anyway ?
[03:09] <CheeseGardener> I'm a little confused by the link Pelo
[03:09] <CheeseGardener> So I can put stuff on my MP3 player
[03:09] <CheeseGardener> since my iriver uses MTP
[03:09] <dasickis> serenityUK: I eventually want to start developing once I get a better handle of computer science
[03:09] <kritical> I think OpenBSD still use like Bind4 or something =) very secure though
[03:09] <Pelo> CheeseGardener, give me the link to the tar.gz file so I can dl it and have a look for myself
[03:10] <PrimoTurbo> Is there anything else besides XGF to use as a server browser?...
[03:10] <CheeseGardener> http://sourceforge.net/projects/libmtp/\
[03:10] <CheeseGardener> http://sourceforge.net/projects/libmtp/
[03:10] <Pelo> CheeseGardener, ok meet me in #pelo
[03:10] <serenityUK> dasickis, you can use encyption on linux to,, you can even encrypt you entire home partition.... also SELinux can be used to stop applications accessing any part of the system they dont need but it is complicated
[03:10] <PrimoTurbo> I mean XQF
[03:11] <dasickis> serenityUK: Yeah, I'll have to sit with some professors from my CS dept and learn stuff from them
[03:12] <dasickis> serenityUK: or hang out in these IRC channels :)
[03:12] <frostburn> irc is one of the best learning tools ever
[03:12] <frostburn> you learn by osmosis
[03:12] <Marztty> #nethack
[03:13] <phenom> Greatest anti-sleep aide.
[03:13] <phenom> Havn't gone to bed without code of some kind in my head in years. :/
[03:13] <ma1> hi, my wireless network manager does not show unprotected networks, but the network settings shows them
[03:13] <phenom> :)
[03:13] <plowdawg> does anyone know of a wireless usb dongle or pcmcia card that is fully supported by ubuntu in networkmanager with wpa?
[03:13] <ma1> how can i show them in network manager applet?
[03:14] <serenityUK> dasickis, start with simple SSH using a key to login instead of a password, you will get the hang of PKI or Public Keys,  then maybe GPG to encrypt some email, then try encrpting a partition
[03:17] <taime1> anyone here installed e17 by any chance?
[03:17] <doms> is their a free software to create a screen saver for linux
[03:19] <ari_stress> hi all, can we work in canada without PR?
[03:19] <IdleOne> PR?
[03:20] <IdleOne> ari_stress, what is PR?
[03:21] <Pazy> ve just reinstalled by unhooking the Sata HDD, now Im back with my original problem of getting Grub to boot WinXP
[03:21] <hwilde> !fixgrub | Pazy
[03:21] <ubotu> Pazy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:22] <Whitey> hi guys - I'm having a problem loging into my kubuntu fiesty 7.04 system - I reset it today and whenever I try to log in, the screen goes blank and it goes back to the login screen a few seconds later
[03:22] <Pazy> Tried all that stuff, been at this for two weeks and got nothing
[03:23] <Whitey> obviously it's KDE, and I am able to log in via shell or ssh
[03:23] <serenityUK> Whitey, I am not a KDE user but there must be some KDE logs you can find with error messages in them
[03:24] <Whitey> probably, but I'm not sure where :P
[03:24] <hwilde> Whitey, apt-get install openssh-server
[03:24] <Whitey> I've tried rm -Rfing /tmp
[03:24] <ma1> hi, my wireless network manager does not show unprotected networks, but the network settings shows them. how can i show them in network manager applet?
[03:24] <Whitey> hwilde: I'm running on my livecd here :P
[03:24] <Whitey> but I do have an sshd running when I load my OS
[03:24] <hwilde> but u can't login to it via ssh ?
[03:25] <Whitey> I can log in via ssh - I can't log in from KDE :)
[03:25] <vanberge> anybody have a way to do the 'watch now' functionality of netflix with firefox/ubuntu?  :-/
[03:25] <serenityUK> ma1, maybe try manual config..  i found mine stuck on roaming mode because of a weak signal.. try clicking choosing unprotected manually
[03:26] <ma1> serenityUK: the signal is like 93-96% simply the unprotected networks are not shown...
[03:26] <Geoffrey2> when cups is returning a printer status stating foomatic-rip failed....anyone know what the heck that means?
[03:26] <plowdawg> does anyone know of a wireless usb dongle or pcmcia card that is fully supported by ubuntu in networkmanager with wpa?
[03:26] <ma1> serenityUK: there is a security setting that disables the unprotected networks?
[03:26] <hwilde> plowdawg, I use cisco cb21ag-a-k9 and intel2200bg with wpa, but I don't use network manager...
[03:27] <plowdawg> hwilde: do you use iwconfig manually?
[03:27] <Whitey> so any other suggestions as to how I can fix my login problem on Kubuntu guys? I can mount my main partition and tail some files, however I'm not sure which to tail...
[03:27] <hwilde> plowdawg, yes and wpa_supplicant
[03:28] <plowdawg> hwilde: why don't you use network manager?
[03:28] <serenityUK> Whitey, find the log files man there must be error messages
[03:28] <Whitey> probably serenityUK, but I have no idea where to start looking for them =/
[03:28] <hwilde> plowdawg, bc it doesn't work IMHO.   there is a good howto online:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[03:28] <Whitey> I'm more of a GUI user than a shell user... I'm not sure where it's all stored :P
[03:28] <plowdawg> i am trying to help my friend out with his intel 2915 (uses the ipw2200 driver that you use also)
[03:29] <plowdawg> but it is a nightmare
[03:29] <serenityUK> most are in /var/log  but you may find somehting in you home folder with a dot infront to hide it
[03:29] <hwilde> plowdawg, use wext not ipw
[03:29] <serenityUK> ls -al to list hidden files
[03:29] <plowdawg> hwilde: is that module already in the kernel?
[03:29] <hwilde> plowdawg, wext is there yes.
[03:30] <plowdawg> hwilde: should i just blacklist the ipw2220 module and then wext will load automatically at boot?
[03:31] <hwilde> plowdawg, look at the end of that link, figure out how to launch wpa_supplicant manually
[03:31] <serenityUK> Whitey, i see there is a #KDE channel maybe they can tell you where the kde error logs are.. most ubuntu users are gnome
[03:31] <Geoffrey2> no suggestions on the printer, I take it?
[03:31] <hwilde> !cups | Geoffrey2
[03:31] <ubotu> Geoffrey2: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:31] <CoasterMaster> What is a good GUI text editor for writing C programs for Ubuntu?
[03:31] <hwilde> !emacs | CoasterMaster
[03:31] <ubotu> CoasterMaster: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[03:32] <CoasterMaster> !code
[03:32] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[03:32] <Whitey> serenityUK: I found a file called /var/log/syslog, but the last thing it has recorded is when I shut it down 20 minutes ago
[03:32] <opopanax> !date
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about date - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <serenityUK> i know there is a folder called .kde in you home folder
[03:33] <sean> can someone help me out, its probably easy for most of you. I just bought a used external HD, and I can delete anything or add anything
[03:33] <sean> it wont let me change permissions
[03:33] <sean> even on root
[03:33] <sean> how do I delete everything?
[03:33] <hwilde> !sudo | sean
[03:33] <ubotu> sean: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:33] <sean> so its like a new external\
[03:33] <sean> where do I do that?
[03:33] <sean> in the concole im assuming?
[03:33] <ianm_> sean: is it formatted for windows?  (NTFS?)
[03:34] <sean> how can I make it drag and drop onto the external Icon i have on the desktop?
[03:34] <sean> yeah I think
[03:34] <sean> but I can see the files
[03:34] <hwilde> !ntfs | sean
[03:34] <ubotu> sean: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:34] <sean> and view them
[03:34] <hwilde> !fuse | sean
[03:34] <ubotu> sean: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:34] <itFinallyWorks> could somebody help with this problem: I am trying to setup dual monitors (using mergedFB) on my toshiba A75 laptop (Radeon 9000 IGP, detected as Radeon 9100 IGP), but I can only ever get 1 monitor at a time to work.  I have followed the instructions on the Ubuntu forums as well as instructions from other places, but it still doesn't work
[03:34] <hwilde> !dualhead | itFinallyWorks
[03:34] <ubotu> itFinallyWorks: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[03:34] <sean> I can already view them
[03:34] <hwilde> !xinerama | itFinallyWorks
[03:34] <astro76> !ntfs-3g | sean this is what you want
[03:34] <ubotu> itFinallyWorks: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[03:34] <ubotu> sean this is what you want: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:34] <sean> I want to use it on ubuntu
[03:35] <sean> even If i have to start over
[03:35] <serenityUK> Whitey, i see there is a #KDE channel maybe they can tell you where the kde error logs are.. most ubuntu users are gnome
[03:35] <sean> ok I will try that ubotu
[03:35] <sean> thanks
[03:35] <Whitey> serenityUK: there's a file in there called tmp-rocky (rocky's my PC name), pointing to /tmp/kde-whiteyuwIAuG, think I should wipe it?
[03:35] <Whitey> hmmm, I thought Kubuntu support was in here too..
[03:35] <hwilde> !ty | sean
[03:35] <ubotu> sean: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:35] <itFinallyWorks> thanks, I am looking into it
[03:35] <hwilde> !kubuntu | Whitey
[03:36] <ubotu> Whitey: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:36] <seamus7> How do I set the default music player? I set a keyboard shortcut to open the default but currently it's set as Rhythmbox and I want the default to be Amarok.
[03:36] <Whitey> right, my mistake :P
[03:36] <serenityUK> !kde | Whitey
[03:36] <ubotu> Whitey: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[03:36] <hwilde> Whitey, some things are the same between gnome and kde, but most ppl here use gnome since that is default for ubuntu
[03:37] <serenityUK> didnt help much lol
[03:37] <serenityUK> i would ask in #kde
[03:37] <serenityUK> actually i would google.
[03:38] <Whitey> I thought of googling, but I'm not sure how to word it =/
[03:38] <Whitey> KDE not loading is a bit generic :P
[03:38] <serenityUK> kde login error log
[03:38] <reitblatt> any idea why all of the feisty packages I just fetched from ubuntu.com "can't be verified"?
[03:38] <Whitey> good idea :P
[03:39] <reitblatt> fresh install
[03:39] <Whitey> oh god... this is scary =/. I'm running on a livecd, and my CD drive just ejected itself =/
[03:40] <plowdawg> Whitey: everything is running from ram right now anyway
[03:40] <Whitey> yeah I understand that, but it's still a scary thought - "running on a livecd... Oh dear, my livecd just ejected o_O" :P
[03:40] <Retnuh1974> Whitey: LOL
[03:41] <kondor101> hello all
[03:41] <MSIGuy> So, I installed wine to use utorrent, and just saved in the default location for windows in utorrent, but I can't find the file I downloaded?
[03:41] <MSIGuy> Wine creates its own directory tree doesn't it?  Where is that normally?
[03:42] <reitblatt> ~/.wine
[03:42] <CoasterMaster> MSIGuy: check ~/.wine/
[03:42] <szachista> hi
[03:42] <CoasterMaster> wine's virtual drive is in there
[03:42] <reitblatt> szachista: howdy
[03:42] <kondor101> wines directory is hidden, you need to use CTRL+H I think
[03:42] <szachista> anybody knows why i can't see images in f-spot?
[03:42] <MSIGuy> O.o  How do I get there?
[03:42] <seamus7> Where can I set the default music player?
[03:42] <CoasterMaster> yeah, either CTRL+H, or you can just type it in to naitulus
[03:42] <seamus7> szachista: have you imported them?
[03:42] <Whitey> oh god... whenever I try to visit linuxforums.org, konqueror crashes =/
[03:42] <reitblatt> MSIGuy: goto your home directory
[03:42] <szachista> i can see thumbnails, but after clicking on it there is just white space
[03:42] <Whitey> *cries*
[03:42] <reitblatt> MSIGuy: and hit ctrl-h
[03:42] <MSIGuy> Okay.
[03:43] <szachista> seamus7: hmm... yeah, but i've upgraded it sinse then, may it be the cause?
[03:43] <reitblatt> MSIGuy: a bunch of hidden files will now be shown
[03:43] <reitblatt> MSIGuy: look for one name ".wine"
[03:43] <szachista> i've upgraded f-spot*
[03:43] <serenityUK> Whitey, i read on a page that the logfile is usually /var/log/kdm.log
[03:43] <kondor101> MSIGuy,  have a look out for ktorrent too, its pretty good, i use it
[03:43] <seamus7> szachista: maybe when you upgraded the default photos folder was changed?
[03:43] <reitblatt> ktorrent++
[03:44] <MSIGuy> kondor101: I have looked at it, but its banned from my pirvate tracker.
[03:44] <szachista> try qbittorrent, it's very simmilar to ktorrent
[03:44] <MSIGuy> Well, I guess not banned, but under a beta rule, haven't looked into that more.
[03:44] <Whitey> nothing interesting in there serenityUK, just my normal video card messages :(
[03:44] <szachista> but uses qt4 :)
[03:44] <serenityUK> Whitey, it was from http://www.kde-forum.org
[03:44] <MSIGuy> Now, to find the default path for utorrent.
[03:44] <itFinallyWorks_> ok, I looked into those links somebody mentioned.  I didn't see anything new or different from what I have seen already and on the ubuntu forums.  As far as xinerama goes, I looked into that, but doesn't it not allow for open gl acceleration?
[03:45] <szachista> where f-spot keeps it's configs and thumbs? i can't finde ~/.f-spot or anything like this
[03:45] <battlecat> Can anyone tell me why my laptops harddrive light would stay on after I downloaded the updates? Even after a reboot it stays on. I checked my services and don't see anything out of the ordinary.
[03:45] <MSIGuy> Thanks everyone, found it.
[03:46] <kondor101> msiguy if you look in places at the top of your screen, you see home folder,  but you need to press CTRL+H to see wines directory as its hiden
[03:46] <kondor101> ok good :)
[03:46] <seamus7> szachista: .gnome2/f-spot
[03:46] <PalaWan> hi, is there any way to fix the terminal keystrokes? any package? any conf? I tried using emacs in a bare terminal. No emulator like konsole. C-M-a didn't work. C-Tab didn't work either. Shift is ignored when hitting C-S-something. WTF? I always bitch about winblows but every keystroke that fails in linux's console, works well on winblows =|  I've been told that console uses tab as C-i. So C-C-i can't be cause there's only one bit for
[03:47] <PalaWan> the control key but I think it's dumb and senseless to use tab as a C-i expression. Why the fuck isn't it just tab? I don't think it's something THAT difficult to have a descent keys handling system. X works well when it comes to use some of these keystrokes (C-M-a is still broken in X but everything else works well. Even those keystrokes that fail miserably when working on a terminal). I hope someone can apport some help about this :)
[03:47] <Music_Shuffle> !ohmy | PalaWan
[03:47] <szachista> seamus7: thanks
[03:47] <ubotu> PalaWan: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:47] <battlecat> whats the command to force the trashcan to empty?
[03:47] <PalaWan> uh. ok, sorry
[03:47] <PalaWan> first time here
[03:48] <zerboxx> Hello all, quick question.  I've recently done a fresh ubuntu install and did a bit too much tinkering and would like to revert back to the original install.  Is there a simple way to do this? (I don't have any important files on my ubuntu partition so that's not a worry)
[03:48] <kondor101> i had the most amazing problem yesturday, when ever i tried to view a wmv file my PC turned off and would not come back on for about 5 mins, freeky, turned out it was over heating (5 yrs old) and the PSU was full of dust. amazing how it only happened when i played this wmv though :D
[03:48] <Music_Shuffle> No worries, keeping the language clean just makes it all nicer in here :)
[03:48] <seamus7> zerboxx: reinstall /
[03:48] <PalaWan> reinstall
[03:48] <serenityUK> zerboxx, try just creating another user account
[03:48] <serenityUK> zerboxx, unless you mean you changed system config
[03:49] <zerboxx> serenityUK: I sure did :D
[03:49] <serenityUK> ok lol
[03:49] <hwilde> zerboxx, livecd is your friend...  reinstall
[03:49] <seamus7> Where do I go to change the default music player setting?
[03:49] <zerboxx> hwilde: ok, I got the 7.04 dvd with live and full on it, so do I just do what I did the first time?
[03:50] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to reinstall the printer on this computer, cups is giving two different listings for the same printer....the first listing ends in "USB #1", the second ends in "USB CN95L1P0HVGE HPLIP"...any suggestions on which one I should use, if it matters?
[03:50] <serenityUK> seamus7, do you mean for a particualr file like mp3?
[03:50] <seamus7> I thought it was Removable Drives and Media but that didn't do it ... seemingly.
[03:50] <arooni> anyonje know how to fix a mac address
[03:50] <arooni> mine is set wrong
[03:50] <hwilde> zerboxx, just do what you did the first time except all of the tinkering
[03:50] <arooni> my wifi0-00 is set to:  HWaddr 00-15-E9-B7-5E-F5-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
[03:50] <the_padawan> hi all, i am trying to get my xbox 360 (wired) controller working. i have installed and modprobed xpad and it shows up in lspci, but there is no node /dev/input/js0. any ideas?
[03:50] <the_padawan> lsmod*
[03:50] <zerboxx> hwilde: Ok, awesome!  That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure if there was an "easier" way
[03:51] <zerboxx> /exit
[03:51] <seamus7> serenityUK: I set a keyboard shortcut to open the default music player; it's currently set as Rhythmbox. I want the default to be Amarok so the shortcut opens it.
[03:51] <kondor101> i managed to fix a config once using a command line boot and a text editor, it is possible but its a bit of a pain.
[03:51] <hwilde> zerboxx, there's not really any system restore or goback like some others
[03:51] <CoasterMaster> arooni: sudo apt-get install macchanger
[03:51] <hwilde> how could 'Loading hardware drivers' just mysteriously disappear?   Good:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32519/    Bad: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32518/
[03:52] <arooni> CoasterMaster: i have no interentrs
[03:52] <arooni> CoasterMaster: i cant connect to the internet
[03:52] <hwilde> arooni, the mac add of wifi0 is irrelevant....
[03:52] <blkno1> Whats the simpilist way to send e-mail via the commandline?
[03:52] <nightf0x316> hi, the recharging circuit on my laptop is broken, thus the bios battery is dead(all info in bios is reset) and can only run form AC. Every time I boot Ubuntu it forces a disk check, Saying " something about being mounted in the future." It takes about my u 2-3 minutes to boot everytime. is there a way to disable disk checking or fix this problem?
[03:52] <arooni> hwilde: are u sure
[03:52] <arooni> i'm hjaving trouble connecting to the internet
[03:52] <hwilde> arooni, wifi0 is a fake interface on top of eth1 or eth0 or whatever your wifi card is.  that one will show the correct mac
[03:52] <arooni> i cant connect to any routers
[03:53] <arooni> i have ath0
[03:53] <arooni> why cant i connect to any router then :(
[03:53] <seamus7> serentiyUK: changing a setting in Removable Drives & Media seems my best guess ... but perhaps I need to reboot for the change to take effect.. hmmm
[03:53] <itFinallyWorks_> ok, I looked into those links somebody mentioned about getting multiple monitors working.  I didn't see anything new or different from what I have seen and tried already.  As far as xinerama goes, I looked into that, but doesn't it not allow for opengl acceleration?  Plus, I thought I had to list two pci addresses for that to work.  lspci only shows one
[03:53] <CoasterMaster> arooni: you can try this, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[03:53] <olderGranny> official negroid linux chat
[03:53] <olderGranny> rofl
[03:53] <olderGranny> n00b central
[03:54] <nightf0x316> anyone?
[03:54] <olderGranny> rofl
[03:54] <seamus7> There must be Ubuntu Gurus out there who know how to change the default music player from Rhythmbox to Amarok, yes? Anyone?
[03:54] <olderGranny> ahh its ok i suppose
[03:54] <olderGranny> u gotta start somewhere hey
[03:54] <hwilde> blkno1, apt-get install sendmail
[03:54] <olderGranny> rofl seamus7
[03:54] <hwilde> !ops     olderGranny
[03:55] <seamus7> olderGranny: flatter often works here :)
[03:55] <olderGranny> :D
[03:55] <CheeseGardener> does anyone know about libmtp at all?  or how to use it?  or make it work????
[03:55] <olderGranny> word up boys
[03:55] <faileas> for a zen?
[03:55] <hwilde> !ops
[03:55] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:55] <reitblatt> seamus7: right click on the music file, properties, and choose the  "open with" tab
[03:55] <olderGranny> diss nigga linux is hardddcore
[03:55] <serenityUK> seamus7, there is a bug in gnome which doesn't let you change the default player.  It is fixed in new version for Gutsy Gibbon,  For a work around try opening a terminal and typing   sudo ln -s /usr/bin/amarok /usr/local/bin/rhythmbox
[03:55] <olderGranny> theres many bugs in gnome
[03:56] <olderGranny> its very incompetent
[03:56] <serenityUK> reitblatt, he is talking about the media buttons on the keyboard
[03:56] <olderGranny> like ubuntu in general
[03:56] <Whitey> says the FreeBSD user... :P
[03:56] <olderGranny> yes thats right Whitey im elite
[03:56] <reitblatt> serenityUK: mea culpa
[03:56] <seamus7> serenityUK: thanks ... that's what I hoped to find out ... you're brilliant
[03:56] <olderGranny> phear the proppa unix brothers
[03:56] <faileas> hmm
[03:56] <olderGranny> none of this african fuckin shit
[03:56] <olderGranny> lol
[03:56] <hwilde> !ops
[03:56] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:56] <serenityUK> reitblatt, np, i did the same thing on the forums lol. but i run gutsy so i didnt realise .. told him to use a tab tha didn't exist lol!
[03:56] <Emperor886> How can I view the properties of a drive on Ubuntu?
[03:57] <hwilde> Emperor886, ls -l
[03:57] <nixternal> hwilde: what do you need?
[03:57] <hwilde> nixternal, olderGranny needs to go.
[03:57] <reitblatt> Emperor886: what kind of properties do you mean?
[03:57] <Music_Shuffle> nixternal, olderGranny.
[03:57] <nixternal> ahhh
[03:57] <olderGranny> lolol
[03:57] <nixternal> good call
[03:57] <Emperor886> hwilde: Without using terminal. I'm a newb. -_-
[03:57] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[03:57] <hwilde> Emperor886, I do not know.
[03:57] <Music_Shuffle> Thanks.
[03:57] <faileas> Emperor886: its just one line ;)
[03:57] <reitblatt> nixternal: thanks
[03:57] <Emperor886> reitblatt: Free space, etc.
[03:57] <CheeseGardener> does anyone know anything about libmtp???
[03:57] <Whitey> people like that make me ashamed to be Australian :<
[03:57] <nixternal> sorry for being blind and missing the blatent obvious on that one :)
[03:57] <serenityUK> seamus7, let me know if it works i am runny gutsy i cannot try it myself
[03:58] <Music_Shuffle> Emperor886, gparted maybe?  Just an idea, not totally sure it'll work.
[03:58] <reitblatt> Emperor886: I like to use gparted
[03:58] <Music_Shuffle> work for what you want*
[03:58] <hwilde> nixternal, lol doesn't ubotu pickup on certain keywords like that?
[03:58] <faileas> CheeseGardener: for a zen?
[03:58] <nixternal> ya, but I was sleeping behind the code :)
[03:58] <Emperor886> reitblatt & Music Shuffle: I tried GParted, couldn't understand it.
[03:58] <faileas> last time i used it, was when i needed to install gnomad II
[03:58] <hwilde> nixternal, no i mean can't ubotu ban based on certain offensive language
[03:59] <Music_Shuffle> Emperor886, err, what couldnt you understand?
[03:59] <Music_Shuffle> hwilde, it doesn't.
[03:59] <nixternal> nah, don't trust that bot :)
[03:59] <reitblatt> Emperor886: Or if it's mounted, you can look @ it through "Computer" in "Places"
[03:59] <faileas> bleh
[03:59] <hwilde> !ty
[03:59] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:59] <seamus7> serenityUK: do you think that work around will prevent Rhythmbox from opening?
[03:59] <reitblatt> Emperor886: right-click properties
[03:59] <faileas> adept updater seems to have frozen
[03:59] <faileas> i should stick to apt ><
[03:59] <PalaWan> Anyone here works with emacs in a terminal?
[03:59] <hwilde> how could 'Loading hardware drivers' just mysteriously disappear?   Good:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32519/    Bad: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32518/
[04:00] <hwilde> PalaWan, emacs rules
[04:00] <PalaWan> yeah but, do you work with it under a terminal?
[04:00] <the_padawan> hi all, i am trying to get my xbox 360 (wired) controller working. i have installed and modprobed xpad and it shows up in lsmod, but there is no node /dev/input/js0. any ideas?
[04:00] <PalaWan> emacs -nw
[04:00] <hwilde> PalaWan, sure wherever
[04:00] <PalaWan> should I pm you 2 lines?
[04:00] <hwilde> PalaWan, fine go ahead
[04:00] <hwilde> !ask | PalaWan
[04:00] <ubotu> PalaWan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:00] <Emperor886> reitblatt: The file browser is lying to me. It says free space is 27 MB even after I've deleted a whole bunch of songs.
[04:01] <hwilde> Emperor886, did you delete or move to trash
[04:01] <reitblatt> Emperor886: they're probably still in your trash bin
[04:01] <kondor101> i was going to say that
[04:01] <hwilde> 2slow
[04:01] <reitblatt> too slow =p
[04:01] <Emperor886> I pressed "Delete" on my keyboard.
[04:01] <reitblatt> Emperor886: that's trash bin then
[04:01] <serenityUK> seamus7, on mine the rhythmbox is in /usr/bin/rhythmbox i think the link from the menu will still work..
[04:02] <level1> Hi guys.  I just built my own computer.  I'm able to install ubuntu, even get compiz running, but its very unstable.  Anything can cause the computer to hang and become completely unresponsive.  Today, I can't even boot, so if I have to reinstall, it will be the third time
[04:02] <reitblatt> Emperor886: click the button in the lower right hand part of the screen
[04:02] <kondor101> Emperor886, bottom right of your screen, the trash?
[04:02] <hwilde> !compiz | level1
[04:02] <ubotu> level1: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:02] <Emperor886> LOL. Thanks!
[04:02] <level1> hwilde: it doesn't have anything to do with compiz
[04:02] <serenityUK> seamus7,  you can always type /usr/bin/rhythmbox to launch it explicitly
[04:02] <reitblatt> level1: try running a memory check
[04:02] <Music_Shuffle> level1, Did you do it...right?  (The build)
[04:02] <level1> reitblatt: I did, thats not the problem
[04:03] <reitblatt> level1: how is it "unstable"?
[04:03] <level1> Music_Shuffle: I don't know.... I can run it, but it crashes a lot
[04:03] <hwilde> level1, did you run all the updates after you installed?
[04:03] <imbecile> !ntfs
[04:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:03] <kondor101> Emperor886, you enjoying ubuntu?
[04:03] <level1> reitblatt: it hangs, and becomes unresponsive.  My only choice is to kill the power and reinstall
[04:03] <thx1137> seamus7: you can also try uoy join #amarok
[04:03] <level1> hwilde: of course
[04:03] <hwilde> level1, sounds like your hardware is failing
[04:04] <Emperor886> Kondor: Hell yeah, I just can't get used to the damned terminal!
[04:04] <reitblatt> that or a driver is crashing
[04:04] <hwilde> Emperor886, were you born after dos
[04:04] <level1> hwilde: yes... but the question is which peice
[04:04] <cropt> defo hardware
[04:04] <politik> I need to copy (preserving everything, including symlinks) the files on my root partition to another partition, so that it can be my new root partition. I've booted using the livecd, can I just mount both partitions and do a cp -p?
[04:04] <Emperor886> hwilde: Yes. :(
[04:04] <hwilde> politik, cp -apR
[04:04] <Music_Shuffle> level1, you might need to check all the hardware again.
[04:04] <level1> reitblatt: well, I had to use the nvidia proprietary installer beacuse its a relatively new card, 8800GTS
[04:04] <level1> the ubuntu installer didn't work
[04:05] <hwilde> level1, you should boot into the livecd and review /var/log/ for an error message before it locks up
[04:05] <politik> hwilde: great, thanks.
[04:05] <level1> okay, hold on
[04:05] <PalaWan> Is there any way to fix the terminal keystrokes? any package? any conf? I tried using emacs in a bare terminal. No emulator like konsole (konsole doesn't work either). C-M-a didn't work. C-Tab didn't work either. Shift is ignored when hitting C-S-something. WTF? I always complain about winblows but every keystroke that fails in linux's console, works well on winblows =|  I've been told that console uses tab as C-i. So C-C-i can't be
[04:05] <seamus7> serenityUK: it does partially work in that my keyboard shortcuty (actually the Media Direct button on my Dell laptop) does now launch Amarok ... but sadly the media buttons on the front of my laptop (play, stop, forward, back) no longer work as they did with Rhythmbox ... oh well, no biggy, I'll just wait for Gutsy :) ...
[04:05] <sucha215> is there a program like streets and trips for linux? -- I know you can just use google online, but I would prefer to have something for offline if it exists
[04:05] <hwilde> politik, -a is all files,  -p is preserve,  -R is recursive
[04:05] <PalaWan> cause there's only one bit for the control key but I think it's senseless to use tab as a C-i expression. Why isn't it just tab? I don't think it's something THAT difficult to have a descent keys handling system. X works well when it comes to use some of these keystrokes (C-M-a is still broken in X but everything else works well. Even those keystrokes that fail miserably when working on a terminal). I hope anyone can apport some help :)
[04:05] <kondor101> Emporer886, as each new version of ubuntu comes out, you will find you use terminal less and less, but terminal is excellent for making sure your pushing the right buttons (you cant go far wrong with cut n paste)
[04:05] <serenityUK> seamus7,  you could always reverse the first change by   sudo ln -s /usr/bin/rhythmbox /usr/local/bin/rhythmbox
[04:05] <seamus7> serenityUK: what would be the terminal text for removing the link I made previously
[04:05] <rockets> What's a good way to shrink or grow an ext3 partition
[04:06] <seamus7> serenityUK: :) thx
[04:06] <faileas> bleh
[04:06] <hwilde> PalaWan, I have no trouble with ctrl, shift, tab, or any keys for that matter in emacs terminal.  something is wrong with your config
[04:06] <ectospasm> rockets:  resize2fs
[04:06] <rockets> ectospasm: thanks
[04:06] <ectospasm> rockets:  but it's gotta be unmounte
[04:06] <faileas> i can't get terminal up and i need to kill a recaltrant programme
[04:06] <hwilde> PalaWan, I do have issues with the arrow keys in vim tho so I understand you frustratio.
[04:06] <faileas> any ideas?
[04:06] <PalaWan> hwilde: are you using ubuntu?
[04:06] <hwilde> faileas, ctrl+alt+F1
[04:06] <hwilde> PalaWan, yes.
[04:06] <rockets> ectospasm: ill do it from a live cd then. is it safe to shrink my /
[04:06] <reitblatt> Emperor886: personally I try to get people NOT to use the terminal because that results in the GUI tools getting more testing
[04:07] <hwilde> F GUI
[04:07] <reitblatt> lol
[04:07] <rockets> reitblatt: I agree, also because non-geeks shouldn't be expected to drop to a terminal EVER.
[04:07] <rockets> reitblatt: if we want to get linux into wide use, everything that your average user would use needs to be gui configurable
[04:07] <reitblatt> personally I think the terminal is an incredibly efficient interface for many tasks
[04:07] <hwilde> that's like saying people who eat should never be expected to get into the kitchen and cook
[04:08] <reitblatt> but I know many people have this irrational fear of it
[04:08] <PalaWan> hwilde: what version? I'm using Debian (came here cause no one replied anything to my question at #debian). Etch, Emacs 21.
[04:08] <seamus7> serenityUK: sorry ... I'm getting a problem message with the command you gave me to revert back ... it's saying <ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/local/bin/rhythmbox' to `/usr/bin/rhythmbox': File exists>
[04:08] <ectospasm> rockets:  be careful with a shrink, it may not work the way you think
[04:08] <rockets> hwilde: not really. I think its rediculous to expect my mom to learn the terminal
[04:08] <ectospasm> rockets:  growing is usually safer
[04:08] <rockets> ectospasm: well . . . how should I do it then
[04:08] <hwilde> PalaWan, it is not emacs related, it is the keybindings in your terminal profile
[04:08] <rockets> Yes but I need to shirin
[04:08] <ectospasm> rockets:  is /home on a different part?
[04:08] <Emperor886> reitblatt: I have never used *any* command prompt in my life until now. It annoys me =/
[04:08] <ectospasm> part==partition
[04:08] <hsatera> can someone help me with mono?
[04:08] <kondor101> i8m fine using terminal as long as i ave the www guiding me through what to type
[04:08] <hsatera> i type mono file.xe
[04:08] <ectospasm> hsatera:  go see a doctor
[04:08] <hsatera> i type mono file.exe
[04:09] <ectospasm> oh, heheheh
[04:09] <hsatera> ectospasm: ha-ha
[04:09] <mzuverink> Can someone help me figure out why I am not able to share anything on my USB Western Digital "My Book"?  Every time I try, both through sys.admin.sharing and by righ click share, smb it returns the message that it cant display all the contents, or that it is recently deleted.  I am at my wits end.
[04:09] <PalaWan> hwilde: this is annoying me a lot. About your Vim issue, why don't you just hjkl?
[04:09] <serenityUK> seamus7,  ok lets delete the link  try   sudo rm /usr/local/bin/rythmbox
[04:09] <Emperor886> reitblatt: Can you help me install the flash plugin for FireFox?
[04:09] <reitblatt> Emperor886: should autoinstall itself
[04:09] <serenityUK> seamus7,  spelling mistake i mean sudo rm /usr/local/bin/rhythmbox
[04:09] <hwilde> PalaWan, when I press up left arrow, it goes into insert mode, up one line, and types capital A.  the other arrows are similarly annoying.
[04:09] <reitblatt> assuming you're not running x86_64
[04:09] <reitblatt> Emperor886: when you go to a site that needs flash
[04:10] <kondor101> Emeror886, you using 7.04
[04:10] <Emperor886> reitblatt: The site tells me to type stuff into the terminal but it doesn't work.
[04:10] <seamus7> serenityUK: ok
[04:10] <Emperor886> Kondor: Yes.
[04:10] <reitblatt> Emperor886: it should offer to install the plugin for you
[04:10] <rockets> ectospasm: nope, one massive /
[04:10] <hwilde> Emperor886, in synaptics search for java plugin and install it
[04:10] <Emperor886> reaitblatt: It doesn't.
[04:10] <serenityUK> seamus7, it might just go back now without another link?
[04:10] <PalaWan> hwilde: THE F***!! that's annoying as.... u know
[04:10] <seamus7> serenityUK: that did it yes.. thx.
[04:10] <Emperor886> hwilde: What is synaptecs?
[04:10] <hwilde> !synaptic | Emperor886
[04:10] <ubotu> Emperor886: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:10] <ectospasm> rockets:  do you have any spare partitions?
[04:11] <rockets> ectospasm: no. grr, on windows you just resize and it works automagically
[04:11] <Emperor886> hwilde: Thanks.
[04:11] <level1> guys, I'm not an expert, but I'm thinking that the source of the problem might be the hard drives
[04:11] <kondor101> Emperor886, its in system, administration
[04:11] <serenityUK> seamus7, ok cool.,.  im running an alpha test of gutsy and we have a multimedia tab to change the option.. only two month away
[04:11] <politik> rockets: actually on windows I don't think you can resize without 3rd party tools
[04:11] <seamus7> nice
[04:11] <level1> even the liveCD is having trouble with booting, and it appears to be trying to mount the hard drive (and failing)
[04:12] <hwilde> !keybinding | PalaWan
[04:12] <ubotu> PalaWan: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[04:12] <ectospasm> rockets:  unless your disk is too fragmented
[04:12] <reitblatt> politik: I know you can in Vista
[04:12] <hwilde> !shortcuts | PalaWan
[04:12] <ubotu> PalaWan: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[04:12] <PalaWan> hwilde: I'm not using ubuntu cause this damn k3b is failing to burn my md5 checked iso image. This sucks. It even destroyed a CD cause I thought it was gonna work just fine
[04:12] <hwilde> PalaWan, maybe one of those links will show you how to trap the keybinding output and debug...
[04:12] <ectospasm> rockets:  you should always make backups before you perform any operation of this magnitude
[04:12] <politik> reitblatt: ah, nice
[04:12] <seamus7> serentiyUK: I thought Guts wasn't due til January ... wasn't Feisty 7.04?
[04:12] <PalaWan> hwilde: I will theck them right now
[04:12] <hsatera> anyones knows "mono" soft?
[04:12] <politik> can vista do software raid 5?
[04:12] <PalaWan> hwilde: thanks
[04:12] <ectospasm> seamus7:  they try two releases a year
[04:12] <Emperor886> hwilde: Where do I find Java in Synaptecs?
[04:12] <serenityUK> yes every 6 months.. next is 7.10
[04:12] <twb> Has anyone successfully netbooted the Feisty live cd?  I'm getting "User not known to underlying authentication module."
[04:12] <reitblatt> Emperor886: you can just go Application -> Add Remove
[04:12] <reitblatt> Emperor886: and search for what you want
[04:13] <hwilde> Emperor886, SEARCH FOR JAVA PLUGIN
[04:13] <Justi1> can I "burn" a cd iso to a usb flash drive?
[04:13] <rockets> politik: you cant resize without 3rd party tools, but once you do it, it just recognizes it
[04:13] <reitblatt> politik: Windows has been able to do raid 5 for a while
[04:13] <seamus7> ectospasm: oh I got the numbers backwards in my head ... 7.04 is 2007/April ... I was thinking July 04th ... lol
[04:13] <jernster> i just installed ubuntu 7.04 last night...i installed vim from adept and for some reason when i create a new file and start it with a #, if i press enter, the second line start with a # and a third and so on... i've never seen this happen before on vi or vim for that matter.  anyone know how i can get that to stop?
[04:13] <twb> Oh crap, I just worked out the problem.
[04:13] <hwilde> Justi1, google ubuntu usb pendrive there are plenty of online tutorials
[04:13] <serenityUK> seamus7,  every 6 months.. next is 7.10
[04:14] <serenityUK> october
[04:14] <hwilde> jernster, vim thinks you are making a comment block.  that's what it does
[04:14] <Emperor886> hwilde: Found it, installing.
[04:14] <kondor101> anything special in 7.10?  just to wet my appetite
[04:14] <jernster> hwilde, gotcha..thanks :)
[04:14] <hwilde> !gutsy | kondor101
[04:14] <ubotu> kondor101: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[04:15] <kondor101> well that didnt tell me a lot lol,
[04:15] <hwilde> kondor101, google it.
[04:15] <seamus7> serenityUK: do you think people will be urged to upgrade or like Edgy will folks be told to wait .. I remember being told Edgy was ... well ... edgy ... and that I perhaps should stick with Dapper LTR at the time .... will be Gutsy be ready?
[04:15] <reitblatt> kondor101: www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe3
[04:15] <kondor101> yea just wondering if that clicky installer thing was going to be in it, CNR or whatever it is
[04:15] <reitblatt> kondor101: that has the features of the latest alpha
[04:16] <Emperor886> Anyone know where I can get Folding@Home for Ubuntu?
[04:16] <rockets> Emperor886: I'm pretty sure there's a client in the repositories
[04:16] <serenityUK> kondor101, seamus7  i find gnome quicker to start ,, waiting for notification icons after login etc... also new kernel is better and compiz is builtin,
[04:16] <Emperor886> rockets: I'm a newb and you just confused the f*ck outta me.
[04:17] <hwilde> !noob | Emperor886
[04:17] <ubotu> Emperor886: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[04:17] <rockets> Emperor886: ok well
[04:17] <rockets> hwilde: oh stick a sock in it. its not liek somebody was macking fun of him
[04:17] <Cemmanuelle> hi there!!!
[04:17] <Cemmanuelle> is anibody here!?
[04:17] <rockets> Cemmanuelle: only about 1000 people
[04:17] <Emperor886> I said "newb" not "noob"
[04:17] <seamus7> I'm here.
[04:17] <Emperor886> =/
[04:17] <serenityUK> welcome Cemmanuelle
[04:17] <hwilde> !coc | Emperor886
[04:17] <ubotu> Emperor886: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:17] <hwilde> !coc | rockets
[04:17] <ubotu> rockets: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:18] <hwilde> just behave.
[04:18] <Cemmanuelle> ok! tnks
[04:18] <rockets> hwilde: yeah i get that but just be chill man
[04:18] <rockets> nobodys fighting or arguing or being disruptive
[04:18] <reitblatt> Emperor886: repo means it is available through the add-remove dialog in Applications
[04:18] <Cemmanuelle> im in a test 4 mi ubuntu!
[04:18] <Emperor886> I didn't know any of this I'm new. -_-
[04:18] <mzuverink> So no one uses samba and can offer assistance...
[04:18] <rockets> its one thing to have rules, its quite another to enforce them arbitrarily
[04:18] <rockets> Emperor886: Annnnyway
[04:18] <hwilde> !samba | mzuverink
[04:18] <ubotu> mzuverink: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:18] <rockets> Emperor886: check out the apt-get command and you'll see what i mean by repos/repositories
[04:19] <Cemmanuelle> SERENITY! HELLO!!!
[04:19] <hwilde> !hi | Cemmanuelle
[04:19] <ubotu> Cemmanuelle: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:19] <Cemmanuelle> hi there!
[04:19] <Cemmanuelle> what is ur name?
[04:19] <hwilde> !ubotu | Cemmanuelle
[04:19] <ubotu> Cemmanuelle: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:19] <Cemmanuelle> were r u from?
[04:19] <Pelo> who would have thought that ubuntu fanfoyism would extend to ppl having their favorite helppers
[04:19] <serenityUK> Bob, London
[04:19] <rockets> UBOTU ASL ASL!
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asl asl! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <Flannel> !offtopic
[04:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:20] <hsatera> Noone uses MONO?
[04:20] <Emperor886> I haven't seen Folding@Home in Add/Remove, I've been through it a few times.
[04:20] <hwilde> !patience | hsatera
[04:20] <ubotu> hsatera: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:20] <reitblatt> hsatera: what do you need help w/ about mono?
[04:20] <Cemmanuelle> ok ubotu
[04:20] <rockets> Emperor886: try apt-cach search folding
[04:20] <reitblatt> Emperor886: I don't think it is in there
[04:20] <Cemmanuelle> were do u live?
[04:20] <hsatera> hwilde: i'm cool
[04:20] <hsatera> :D
[04:20] <Cemmanuelle> ubotu?
[04:20] <hwilde> hsatera, I use it but I don't know how to answer your question...
[04:20] <reitblatt> Cemmanuelle: ubotu is a bot
[04:20] <Emperor886> rockets: Does that involve the terminal?
[04:21] <rockets> Emperor886: yes
[04:21] <Cemmanuelle> hi hsatera!!!
[04:21] <Pelo> hsatera,  I've heard of mono but I have never used, it , maybe the ppl in #winehq know more about it , since it is somewhat similar
[04:21] <Flannel> Emperor886: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/23/folding-home-installation-configuration-automation-ubuntu-debian-rhel-fc/
[04:21] <rockets> Emperor886: if you're not comfortable with  the terminal you can use synaptic
[04:21] <Cemmanuelle> ohh ok thsnks reitblstt
[04:21] <rockets> Emperor886:  System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[04:21] <cropt> The sooner you embrace "the terminal" the better!
[04:21] <Emperor886> flannel & rockets: Thanks!
[04:21] <lashmoove> what's a good graphical file usage app
[04:21] <seamus7> Cemmanuelle: ubotu just pretends to be a bot ... he's really just cold and cruel ... we go way back.
[04:21] <reitblatt> guys (and gals) there's no reason for him to mess around w/ the terminal here
[04:22] <rockets> lashmoove: you mean like treesize?
[04:22] <Flannel> rockets: You know showing him synaptic won't help him find f@h
[04:22] <rockets> Flannel: i sware i remember the folding client being in the repos
[04:22] <rockets> I could be wrong
[04:22] <reitblatt> Emperor886: I think you need to get the client from http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html
[04:22] <Emperor886> Bee are bee.
[04:22] <lashmoove> rockets:will it show me where large concentration of files are, graphically?
[04:22] <Cemmanuelle> ok seamus7 thanks 4 that
[04:22] <hwilde> !find folding feisty   | rockets
[04:22] <ubotu> rockets: Package/file folding does not exist in feisty
[04:22] <serenityUK> Beagle is built using Mono i think... it is a port of the .Net libraries to Linux
[04:22] <Cemmanuelle> and where r u seamus?
[04:22] <hsatera> reitblatt: http://pastebin.ca/648258
[04:22] <cropt> Maybe there's a .deb for him there.
[04:22] <rockets> im not sure its called folding exactley
[04:22] <seamus7> Cemmanuelle: Louisville, KY, USA
[04:23] <Flannel> rockets: it's not in the repos
[04:23] <Pelo> hwilde,  try foldingathome
[04:23] <rockets> Flannel: :-( my mistake
[04:23] <reitblatt> lashmoove: there is a file-size view in konqueror
[04:23] <Cemmanuelle> ohhh! thats so...
[04:23] <Cemmanuelle> i dunno
[04:23] <lashmoove> reitblatt: thanks ill try that
[04:23] <Cemmanuelle> im from El salvador!
[04:24] <defcon> I need help with my firewall config, for some reason i cannot traceroute I pasted my iptables -L here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32873/ what is wrong and what do I need to do to fix it
[04:24] <seamus7> Is there an alternative to Gdesklets out there?
[04:24] <reitblatt> hsatera: install the libmono-winforms-2.0-cil package
[04:24] <seamus7> Cemmanuelle: welcome!
[04:24] <Pelo> seamus7, screenlets
[04:24] <reitblatt> hsatera: err, libmono-winforms2.0-cil
[04:24] <serenityUK> Cemmanuelle, I am from London England.. we are on 3 continents
[04:24] <ubuntu_> Hi, this is level1.  I'm having a lot of trouble with my computer, randomly hanging, refusing to boot.  I found this error over and over in my dmesg:reading i2c device failed (error=-71)
[04:24] <seamus7> Pelo: how does it compare?
[04:24] <Cemmanuelle> im  starting with mi ubuntu and i have lots of qstions
[04:24] <Cemmanuelle> really thanks seamus
[04:24] <Pelo> seamus7,  works better when you use compiz or beryl
[04:24] <hsatera> reitblatt: thx
[04:24] <hsatera> let's see it
[04:25] <seamus7> Cemmanuelle: ;)
[04:25] <ubuntu_> I'm also seeing this error a lot: [   26.550433]  msp3400 0-0044: I/O error #0 (write 0x12/0x04)
[04:25] <Pelo> ubuntu_, level1  at this point consider a clean install
[04:25] <ubuntu_> Pelo: I tried a clean install, it didn't help
[04:25] <reitblatt> ubuntu_: sounds like something is wrong w/ the hard drive
[04:25] <Cemmanuelle> seamus???
[04:25] <Pelo> ubuntu_, are you sure your comptuer isnt, damaged, ? like borked mobo ro bad hdd ?
[04:25] <olgayramon> i have my camera working good with my driver but when i am as another user of computer the softwares dont find the divice, how i fix this? any idea?
[04:25] <hsatera> reitblatt: love u
[04:25] <hsatera> :D
[04:25] <reitblatt> ubuntu_: could you pastebin the log?
[04:25] <Cemmanuelle> do u know someone from france?
[04:25] <reitblatt> hsatera: any time :)
[04:26] <seamus7> Pelo: I dual boot Vista and now find that I want some me some desktop widgets.
[04:26] <Cemmanuelle> i need to learn some french
[04:26] <Pelo> seamus7, like I said, try screenlets
[04:26] <ubuntu_> http://pastebin.ca/648262
[04:26] <masquerade> Anyone know if there is a package for the J programming language?
[04:26] <Pelo> Cemmanuelle, try in #ubuntu-fr
[04:26] <serenityUK> Cemmanuelle, there is and #ubuntu-fr channel!
[04:26] <masquerade> Unfortunately with such a short name, its hard to search for :)
[04:26] <Cemmanuelle> thanks
[04:27] <Pelo> masquerade,  try with extra keywords liike j programming
[04:27] <Cemmanuelle> and what is the meaning of seamus?
[04:27] <reitblatt> masquerade: doesn't look like it
[04:28] <masquerade> Pelo, if I had found anything that simply, I wouldn't be here asking. I know how to search, but getting confirmation that it isn't a package is harder
[04:28] <serenityUK> Cemmanuelle, in what way?
[04:28] <masquerade> confirmation that it is a package is easy, confirmation that its not is not so easy
[04:28] <Pelo> !info j
[04:28] <ubotu> Package j does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:28] <Cemmanuelle> sorry?
[04:28] <seamus7> Cemmanuelle: Seamus is sort of an Irish version of Sean (shawn)
[04:28] <Cemmanuelle> i dont understand!
[04:29] <hsatera> !info mono
[04:29] <reitblatt> masquerade: I would be surprised if it was packaged, it's a pretty obscure language
[04:29] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[04:29] <Pelo> Cemmanuelle, it is pronouced shmos
[04:29] <reitblatt> masquerade: I didn't realize people were using it
[04:29] <seamus7> Cemmanuelle: yes
[04:29] <masquerade> reitblatt, yeah, it is, but there are packages for some very obscure things :)
[04:29] <seamus7> Pelo: yes I mean
[04:29] <reitblatt> masquerade: very true
[04:29] <masquerade> reitblatt, it comes in handy for mathematical stuff, most of the popular languages just suck for certain things :)
[04:30] <reitblatt> masquerade: what sort of mathematical stuff?
[04:30] <reitblatt> masquerade: have you ever tried haskell?
[04:30] <Pelo> masquerade,  if you can find thesource code online, you can compile it
[04:30] <masquerade> reitblatt, can't say I've ever done Haskell, no
[04:30] <hwilde> Haskell rulez
[04:31] <bung0wa> Has anyone tried DAAP with iTunes 7?
[04:31] <cropt> Haskell?
[04:31] <reitblatt> masquerade: when you say "mathematical stuff", what do you mean?
[04:31] <desertc__> Question: How do I get a list of users in a channel with Xchat?
[04:31] <reitblatt> masquerade: do you mean mathematica/matlab type stuff?
[04:31] <bung0wa> iTunes won't share but doesn't mind taking others' music...  How fair
[04:31] <masquerade> reitblatt, at the moment, problems on project euler :). It is simply much more efficient to write programs in J :)
[04:32] <bung0wa> Someone should just pretend to be Steve Jobs and get that fixed
[04:32] <serenityUK> masquerade, i thinkit is called j32 according to http://www.jsoftware.com/platforms.htm
[04:32] <bung0wa> You hear me, Steve?!
[04:32] <ubuntu_> so, I have 4 hard drives.  I originally thought I would have raid 5.  I had it set up okay, but it kept crashing, so I tried again with just a flat file, no raid.  It did'nt improve.  I completely wiped every hard drive before the reinstall... does that mean that the hard drives are physically defective?  and could I narrow it down to one of the drives?
[04:32] <Pelo> desertc__, by default the members list is hidden,  it is resized to minimum on the right of the window,  mouseover the right side untill you get a dobule arrow
[04:32] <reitblatt> masquerade: in that case, you may well find haskell fun and useful
[04:32] <desertc__> pelo: Bless ya!
[04:32] <reitblatt> masquerade: though it comes w/ a bit of a learning curve, especially if you wish to do IO
[04:33] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  I think the raid thing is your issue,  have you checked in the forum for raid info ? there should be alot of stuff in there about it
[04:33] <reitblatt> masquerade: #haskell is a very hot channel these days
[04:33] <DarkCat> is there any way to del xserver through apt-get
[04:33] <masquerade> reitblatt, I'll give it some thought, thanks
[04:33] <ubuntu_> Pelo: well, I don't know.  As I said, I reinstalled with no raid and I still had trouble
[04:33] <Pelo> DarkCat, sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg should do it
[04:33] <ubuntu_> !raid
[04:33] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:33] <DarkCat> cool thanks
[04:34] <reitblatt> masquerade: always happy to convert someone to the functional programming side :)
[04:34] <hwilde> lambda calculus for every1 !
[04:34] <jernster> hm my xchat windows don't change colors when people talk.  grr
[04:34] <masquerade> reitblatt, J is higher-order functional programming :)
[04:34] <reitblatt> masquerade: but is it pure functional?
[04:35] <r00tintheb0x> Thats rough jernster
[04:35] <jernster> yes it is.
[04:35] <twb> Haskell is purely functional.
[04:35] <Pelo> jernster, it should for your nick , you can also set other hightligh keywords inthe prefs
[04:35] <reitblatt> masquerade: IOW, does it allow side effects?
[04:35] <masquerade> reitblatt, nah, its not
[04:35] <r00tintheb0x> jernster, the names or the window borders?
[04:35] <reitblatt> masquerade: well there =p
[04:35] <jernster> Pelo, but usually if I'm looking in another window, if people type in this one it will change the text to red or something.
[04:35] <PalaWan> !keybindings
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keybindings - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <PalaWan> damnit
[04:35] <jernster> r00tintheb0x, the window tabs text
[04:36] <Pelo> jernster,  it does in the tab mode,  don'T know about the treeview
[04:36] <masquerade> reitblatt, but I've done my share of Lisp and Scheme :)
[04:36] <twb> Lisp is not a functional programming language.
[04:36] <reitblatt> masquerade: ahh, so your an old hand then
[04:36] <twb> It merely supports functional programming.
[04:36] <Pelo> jernster, this channel will be red all the time ,  ppl are always talking
[04:36] <Emperor886> !folding@home
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about folding@home - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <jernster> Pelo, aha.  changed to tabs and it works.  strange
[04:36] <serenityUK>    masquerade you can download the j32 package for linux from the website   http://www.jsoftware.com/stable.htm
[04:36] <Phish32786> Anyone in here been playing with Compiz Fusion?
[04:36] <r00tintheb0x> Ah, dont know what you're talking about.
[04:36] <ubuntu_> Pelo: is it possible that raid could break a hard drive in such a way that it becomes unstable even after I've reformatted without raid?
[04:37] <Pelo> !compiz | Phish32786
[04:37] <ubotu> Phish32786: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:37] <masquerade> reitblatt, nah, not at all really, just like to explore :)
[04:37] <jernster> Pelo, thanks for the tip. :)
[04:37] <Pelo> ubuntu_, I don'T know I have no experience with raid what so ever
[04:37] <twb> Can anyone suggest why /etc/resolv.conf contains no IP addresses or name servers when netbooting Feisty?
[04:37] <reitblatt> masquerade: that's good, there are some crazy languages out there
[04:37] <masquerade> I was born after lisp had started its decline :)
[04:37] <r00tintheb0x> twb, are you using a router?
[04:37] <serenityUK>    masquerade you can download the j32 package for linux from the website   http://www.jsoftware.com/stable.htm
[04:37] <desertc__> ubuntu_, I don't think so
[04:38] <Pelo> jernster,  I have no use for your gratitude, I want cash ;)
[04:38] <twb> r00tintheb0x: yes.
[04:38] <r00tintheb0x> twb, are you using DHCP?
[04:38] <Phish32786> ubotu; Thanks, I been looking at this guide, http://fosswire.com/2007/07/11/how-to-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/ I'm dropping Window Frames when Activating it and im a bit hazy when it comes to running beryl on top of it as it suggests.
[04:38] <reitblatt> masquerade: lisp has been dying for a long time
[04:38] <masquerade> serenityUK, thanks, I know this, and I heard you well the first time, that doesn't really answer the question
[04:38] <jernster> Pelo, don't we all. :p
[04:38] <twb> r00tintheb0x: you cannot netboot without a DHCP server.
[04:38] <Pelo> !ubotu | Phish32786
[04:38] <ubotu> Phish32786: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:38] <reitblatt> masquerade: I was born after DOS started its decline ;)
[04:38] <masquerade> reitblatt, true, okay, lemme say this, I was born shortly after C started its huge uprising :)
[04:38] <r00tintheb0x> twb, didnt know you were trying to netboot.
[04:39] <twb> r00tintheb0x: I stated as much.
[04:39] <r00tintheb0x> twb, usually w/a router... you put the routers IP in as a nameserver addy.
[04:39] <desertc__> reitblatt, LISP has been around since the 1960s -- it is not in much of a decline recently
[04:39] <serenityUK>    masquerade well the package is was in breezy and is not in Feisty fawn
[04:39] <twb> r00tintheb0x: other dhcp clients get resolv.conf seeded correctly.
[04:39] <r00tintheb0x> twb, i've only been in the chan for about five mins... i may not have read completely.
[04:39] <Phish32786> drr
[04:39] <hwilde> if you like lisp you should try ocaml...
[04:39] <twb> hwilde: hahaha
[04:39] <masquerade> reitblatt, more specifically, after C89 was created :)
[04:39] <Pelo> Phish32786, go and ask for help in #compiz
[04:39] <reitblatt> desertc__: I know, I work w/ ACL2, but it used to be more popular, at least in terms of percentages
[04:40] <reitblatt> masquerade: I see :)
[04:40] <bren> ...
[04:40] <Phish32786> Pelo: Thanks for the tip :)
[04:40] <Pelo> np
[04:40] <reitblatt> masquerade: I guess that means I'm getting old, I was born in '87...
[04:40] <r00tintheb0x> twb, paste your /etc/network/interfaces to http://pastebin.ca
[04:40] <dzer0> hey there
[04:40] <hsatera> lol
[04:41] <hsatera> i was born in '89
[04:41] <ectospasm> reitblatt:  I'm as old as Star Wars...
[04:41] <mailavj> help pls. i have instaled nvidia-glx drivers. now X is crashing. how can i disable nvidia drivers from console
[04:41] <hsatera> x)
[04:41] <masquerade> reitblatt, never seem to get younger, eh? :) Still, not many people born around that time would've bothered touching Haskell so you still get my props :)
[04:41] <dzer0> is there any way to get alpha-blended corners on window titlebars? you'd think with XGL and compiz and stuff they'd at least be able to pull off nicely rounded corners...
[04:41] <r00tintheb0x> twb, have you tried "sudo dhclient"?
[04:41] <Pelo> reitblatt, I meant the other kind of diaper , you little babe
[04:42] <Emperor886> Can anyone help with the terminal please?
[04:42] <serenityUK> dzer0, just download a different theme  www.gnome-look.org
[04:42] <reitblatt> Emperor886: what do you need help w/?
[04:42] <hsatera> reitblatt: how do i program the computer to shutdown in 1 hour?
[04:43] <mailavj> help pls. i have instaled nvidia-glx drivers. now X is crashing. how can i disable nvidia drivers from console
[04:43] <Emperor886> reitblatt: One of the commands to install Folding@Home is not working. /bin/bash ./finstall
[04:43] <dzer0> serenityUK: I don't just mean corners, I mean alpha-blended corners
[04:43] <Pelo> dzer0, you might just need a dfferent theme,  I have decent rounded corners,   look at the window border section in art-gnome
[04:43] <reitblatt> hsatera: sudo shutdown +60
[04:43] <DWSR> hsatera, sudo shutdown 60m
[04:43] <puppet_shadow> Anyone have a 1680x1050 lcd? Just wondering if it's as hard as the forums sound to make one work on Ubuntu.
[04:43] <hwilde> hsatera, man shutdown   there is a -t option with time limit
[04:43] <Pelo> reitblatt,  not quite there yet
[04:43] <twb> r00tintheb0x: do you understand that the problem is in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/, and that it's probably a missing dhcp-option in the packet it receives when netbooting?
[04:43] <DWSR> sorry, yeah. listen to reitblatt
[04:43] <reitblatt> Emperor886: how is it failing?
[04:44] <dzer0> AFAIK, a different theme won't do alpha-blending :P
[04:44] <r00tintheb0x> twb, if you know the resolution then why are you asking?
[04:44] <Emperor886> root@anthony-laptop:~# /bin/bash ./finstall
[04:44] <Emperor886> /bin/bash: ./finstall: No such file or directory
[04:44] <serenityUK> dzer0, if you are using compiz or beryl then emerald themes can have transparency
[04:44] <twb> r00tintheb0x: I *don't* know the resolution.
[04:44] <Pelo> puppet_shadow,  if your screen and video card can handle it , you just need to add the resolution to the xorg.conf file
[04:44] <twb> r00tintheb0x: that directory contains perhaps 1200 lines of code
[04:44] <Emperor886> finstall is in fact there. -_-
[04:44] <reitblatt> Emperor886: where did you extract the file you downloaded?
[04:44] <serenityUK> dzer0, many glass effects etc
[04:44] <reitblatt> Emperor886: type chmod +x finstall
[04:45] <twb> The problem is there are so many damn newbies in here that you can never get help with REAL problems :-/
[04:45] <dzer0> ok
[04:45] <puppet_shadow> Pelo: right, that's logical. People seem to be having extreme difficulty getting the Samsung 226bw working though.
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> twb, i feel ya.
[04:45] <Emperor886> I didn't. I have been using terminal commands the whole time via http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/23/folding-home-installation-configuration-automation-ubuntu-debian-rhel-fc/7
[04:45] <Pelo> puppet_shadow,  I ddon't know about that sorry
[04:45] <r00tintheb0x> twb, grep for it.
[04:45] <twb> r00tintheb0x: well, obviously.
[04:45] <Emperor886> root@anthony-laptop:~# chmod +x finstall
[04:45] <Emperor886> chmod: cannot access `finstall': No such file or directory
[04:46] <reitblatt> Emperor886: you probably skipped this step: "sudo chmod +x  finstall"
[04:46] <IdleOne> twb, open a #ubuntu-advanced
[04:46] <r00tintheb0x> twb, what happens if you manually add the router IP to /etc/resolv.conf?
[04:46] <puppet_shadow> we need a "Linux certified" logo for hardware!
[04:46] <kauer> twb, r00tintheb0x: What are you looking for (and r00t, stop feeling people!) :-)
[04:46] <r00tintheb0x> twb, do you have anything in /etc/rc*.d/ that would be rewriting /etc/resolv.conf?
[04:46] <serenityUK> puppet_shadow, i have dual monitor 1680x1050 and 1280x1024 with compiz-fusion all the bling but I use nvidia drivers
[04:46] <reitblatt> Emperor886: pastebin the result of "ls -l" please
[04:46] <r00tintheb0x> hehe kauer
[04:47] <kauer> twb: DHCP will rewrite resolv.conf under some circumstances.
[04:47] <Emperor886> reaitblatt: I did not skip that step.
[04:47] <Emperor886> root@anthony-laptop:~# ls -l
[04:47] <Emperor886> total 0
[04:47] <r00tintheb0x> Yeah, well his /etc/resolv.conf is blank i think.
[04:47] <reitblatt> Emperor886: now show me the output of "pwd"
[04:47] <blindraven> good afternoon people :)
[04:47] <r00tintheb0x> twb, are you trying to do a network install w/o a cdrom?
[04:48] <r00tintheb0x> hi blindraven
[04:48] <Emperor886> root@anthony-laptop:~# pwd
[04:48] <Tremitos> hi
[04:48] <Emperor886> root@anthony-laptop:~# pwd
[04:48] <DWSR> twb: What's your problem?
[04:48] <kauer> r00tintheb0x: well, is it blank or not?
[04:48] <Tremitos> I'll find out
[04:48] <puppet_shadow> serenityUK: cool. I wish I could tell what these guys problem is.
[04:48] <r00tintheb0x> I dont know, he wont cough up enough info.
[04:48] <Emperor886> there is a "/root" under pwd, not showing for some reason.
[04:48] <galpa> #ubuntu-es
[04:48] <serenityUK> puppet_shadow, they proobably have ati
[04:48] <reitblatt> Emperor886: ok, thanks
[04:48] <hiroshiX> how do you connect to an iscsi drive in open-iscsi?
[04:48] <Pelo> galpa,   /join #ubuntu-es
[04:48] <blindraven> I'm making a movie about tools you can use to navigate around the CLI only my bloody camera like to defocus as soon as i move it *pulls hair out*
[04:48] <DWSR> !es galpa
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es galpa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <serenityUK> puppet_shadow, nvidia drivers are much better
[04:49] <DWSR> !es | galpa
[04:49] <ubotu> galpa: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:49] <hiroshiX> I mean, I've got it installed, but nothing I type ever works to connect to it
[04:49] <reitblatt> Emperor886: wget -c http://www.vendomar.ee/~ivo/finstall
[04:49] <puppet_shadow> serenityUK: so, that driver just has trouble with new aspect ratios?
[04:49] <kauer> r00tintheb0x: Yeah. iratik was being all coy about his domain too. Hard to help without concrete facts.
[04:49] <serenityUK> puppet_shadow, no more 3d acceleration, any should be able to handle the resolution
[04:49] <reitblatt> Emperor886: what that command does is download a file called finstall
[04:49] <r00tintheb0x> Well when you're trying to "one up" the room on knowledge its kinda hard to explain your problem.
[04:49] <reitblatt> Emperor886: which it puts in your current directory (/root)
[04:49] <puppet_shadow> serenityUK: hrm. there was no mention of 3d but I guess that could be an issue.
[04:50] <blazemonger> i like ubuntu but i want a installation where i can choose what boot loader i want touse
[04:50] <kauer> r00tintheb0x: I think it was just misguided "confidentiality"
[04:50] <Emperor886> reitblatt: It's now working. Thanks. :)
[04:50] <twb> r00tintheb0x: I am trying to netboot.  That means you get a PXE-compliant NIC and boot it, which uses DHCP headers next-server and filename to find a bootloader via TFTP, then that loads a kernel and ramdisk over TFTP, and that then loads a read-only NFS export and merges it with a copy-on-write partition using unionfs, then pivot_roots and boots as normal.
[04:50] <r00tintheb0x> haha
[04:50] <Pelo> blazemonger,  you probably can,  it'S just a matter of configureing it properly
[04:50] <reitblatt> Emperor886: no prob
[04:50] <r00tintheb0x> ok twb, done it a hundred times.
[04:50] <puppet_shadow> serenityUK: well, my desktop has nvidia so maybe I'm fine
[04:50] <twb> This all works and you get the dinky GNOME desktop and so on.
[04:50] <r00tintheb0x> Where is it failing, network communication twb ?
[04:51] <IdleOne> blazemonger, use any boot loader you like but ubuntu comes with GRUB
[04:51] <DWSR> twb: You trying to install, or just PXE boot?
[04:51] <r00tintheb0x> ok twb go on.
[04:51] <mzuverink> Samba help anyone?
[04:51] <dzer0> I have compiz fusion. How do I install emerald themes?
[04:51] <kauer> twb: "boots as normal" - does that include obtaining a final operational IP address via DHCP?
[04:51] <twb> What isn't working is the casper-bottom/23netboot script.
[04:51] <blazemonger>  want to also be able to install ubuntu and start with only the plain text based distro
[04:51] <IdleOne> !samba | mzuverink
[04:51] <ubotu> mzuverink: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:51] <twb> kauer: it gets an IP address before the kernel boots.
[04:51] <Pelo> dzer0,  you need to go and ask in #compiz
[04:51] <IdleOne> !alternate | blazemonger
[04:51] <ubotu> blazemonger: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[04:51] <blazemonger> the graphical install is nice work, but i want to customize my install like have LVM v2
[04:52] <Pelo> blazemonger,  check the forum for ubuntu-minimal
[04:52] <mzuverink> IdleOne, read that does not help, seems to be my samba is f****
[04:52] <r00tintheb0x> twb, are the DNS servers programmable in the NIC?
[04:52] <riotkittie> im feeling lazy. so i'm here. :D
[04:52] <r00tintheb0x> man im confused.
[04:52] <kauer> twb: It must also get one after the kernel boots. Think about it :-) Or is that hard-configured?
[04:52] <twb> r00tintheb0x: what?  The DNS server resides on the router.
[04:52] <Pelo> blazemonger,  you can also use the alternate install cd, it is text based
[04:52] <puppet_shadow> dzer0: go into a command line and type "apt-cache search emerald" or search in synaptic
[04:52] <riotkittie> is there support for eSATA under ubuntu?
[04:52] <twb> The NIC contains a PXE EEPROM.
[04:52] <r00tintheb0x> okay twb ... you're PXE booting.
[04:52] <twb> As I have said repeatedly.
[04:52] <r00tintheb0x> Can you ping by DNS name?
[04:52] <serenityUK> blazemonger, if you choose expert mode on the AlternateCD instead of the livecd you can skip grub i think
[04:52] <blazemonger> so the alternate cd is better for if i like debian's install better
[04:52] <r00tintheb0x> twb, what can you NOT do.
[04:53] <twb> Yes, the route table is correct.
[04:53] <Pelo> blazemonger,  probablhy , I'm not sure what either look like, I 've never had to use them
[04:53] <plowdawg> how do you disable network-manager? i would like to use wifi-radar instead
[04:53] <twb> As I said initially, what is NOT correct is /etc/resolv.conf, and this is due to casper-bottom/23netboot
[04:53] <r00tintheb0x> twb, have you cleared the ARP cache?
[04:53] <riotkittie> i like slack's install <3  </offtopic>
[04:53] <r00tintheb0x> ok twb gotcha finally.
[04:53] <kauer> twb: The PIX stuff just sets you up with a bootable kernel; after than, PIX is out of the picture, and the booting kernel is on its own. Including left to its own devices (he he) to get an address.
[04:53] <r00tintheb0x> hol dup
[04:53] <twb> If you do not actually use and understand casper, then it is pretty likely you can't actually help me.
[04:54] <DWSR> That counts me out then twb. :-)
[04:54] <blazemonger> i want to use Fedora core and freebsd too
[04:54] <arsalan> me too
[04:54] <blazemonger> since i want to learn some programming
[04:54] <twb> Yes, it basically narrows it down to pantera, cjwatson and the other guy who's nick I forget.
[04:54] <twb> tfheen
[04:54] <kauer> twb: If you do not give us info to help us understand your situation clearly, then we definitely cannot help you.
[04:54] <DWSR> lol
[04:54] <r00tintheb0x> twb, i rock.
[04:54] <arsalan> hahahaahaaha
[04:54] <r00tintheb0x> period.
[04:54] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[04:55] <r00tintheb0x> right Pelo
[04:55] <DWSR> indeed Pelo.
[04:55] <hwilde> !patience
[04:55] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:55] <kauer> twb: Sorry I missed the start of the conversation. Maybe there was loads of info there.
[04:55] <twb> kauer: no problem.
[04:55] <hwilde> twb, can you restate your problem in one line?
[04:55] <twb> I apologize if I come across as a bit abrasive.
[04:55] <r00tintheb0x> twb, could you SCP/XDCC me 23netboot please?
[04:55] <r00tintheb0x> its ok twb i get that way w/Sun support all the time.
[04:55] <DWSR> hwilde, He's attempting to PXE boot Ubuntu.
[04:56] <hwilde> I understand that.  what specifically is the problem.
[04:56] <DWSR> r00tintheb0x, I get that way with support people in general. Especially when I tell them that I know a DHCP client from a DNS server, and they still tell me "Please make sure..."
[04:56] <r00tintheb0x> hwilde, /etc/resolv.conf blanks out after boot (i think)
[04:56] <DWSR> And generally treat me like a fecking idiot.
[04:56] <twb> To summarize: I am successfully netbooting the feisty live cd, via the usual DHCP/TFTP/NFS method.  A change since Edgy is resulting in resolv.conf being trashed, and this is the result of /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/23network.
[04:56] <r00tintheb0x> right DWSR
[04:56] <r00tintheb0x> twb, p   casper                                                 - Run a "live" preinstalled system from read-only media
[04:56] <r00tintheb0x> that what you have installed twb ?
[04:57] <Emperor886> Can someone help me with the terminal again please?
[04:57] <kauer> twb: The booting kernel is, I repeat, on its own after it boots. It uses normal mechanisms like DHCP to obtain IP adresses etc. If you are CERTAIN that this is not the case in your case, let me know and I'll bug out, because you are using something I do not understand.
[04:57] <twb> r00tintheb0x: yes, casper is responsible for merging a read-only resource with a copy-on-write ramdisk.
[04:57] <DWSR> Emperor886, what's up?
[04:57] <Pelo> Emperor886,  what specificaly ?
[04:57] <r00tintheb0x> right twb ok, lemme check the source code out.
[04:57] <hwilde> twb, are you set for dhcp?
[04:57] <Emperor886> dwsr: I'm trying to install Folding@Home, one of the commands isn't working though.
[04:57] <r00tintheb0x> wth
[04:57] <DWSR> Good luck with that. I've never heard of it.
[04:57] <r00tintheb0x> folding@home?
[04:57] <Pelo> Emperor886, which command
[04:58] <Emperor886> anthony@anthony-laptop:~$ sudo update-rc.d folding defaults
[04:58] <Emperor886> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/folding: file does not exist
[04:58] <twb> kauer: I am fairly confident that's not the problem, since the routing is correct as reported by ifconfig and route.
[04:58] <IdleOne> Emperor886, sudo aptitude install boinc
[04:58] <serenityUK> dwsr it's the thing like the seti project looking for a cancer cure during screensaver
[04:58] <DWSR> IdleOne, apt-get works just well.
[04:58] <Paradox34690> what is the apt-get command to show what packages are available on the universe?
[04:58] <hwilde> twb, edit your dhclient.conf to not request domain-name-servers and then it won't overwrite /etc/resolv.conf .
[04:58] <DWSR> serenityUK, ah.
[04:59] <r00tintheb0x> twb, casper-bottom/23network or casper-bottom/23networking?
[04:59] <DWSR> Paradox34690, http://packages.ubuntu.com works wonders.
[04:59] <IdleOne> Emperor886, you can run folding@home with the boinc client.
[04:59] <twb> r00tintheb0x: sorry, 23networking
[04:59] <IdleOne> DWSR, yeah Im just used to using aptitude :)
[04:59] <Emperor886> IdleOne: What next?
[04:59] <bulmer> twc did you look at whats defined on your /etc/nsswitch.conf ?
[04:59] <r00tintheb0x> twb, or you can "chattr" it to make it not overwrite it for the time being.
[04:59] <r00tintheb0x> ok twb
[04:59] <kauer> twb: Good luck :-)
[04:59] <Paradox34690> Thanks for that DWSR
[04:59] <IdleOne> Emperor886, install boinc then run it from the applications menu and follow the instructions :)
[05:00] <DWSR> Hope that's not sarcastic.
[05:00] <Emperor886> idleone: How do I install it?
[05:00] <r00tintheb0x> twb, i take it you've had a look @ 23networking?
[05:00] <twb> r00tintheb0x: correct.
[05:00] <underwatercow> Why was Totem chosen as the default Ubuntu video player?
[05:00] <IdleOne> Emperor886, from a terminal type sudo apt-get install boinc
[05:00] <r00tintheb0x> ok twb hold up
[05:00] <digip1mp> I have remote access to a dedicated machine running edgy 2.6.17-10-server.  Is there any way to remotely install and run debian 3.1 in some kind of jail or virtual environment like vmware?
[05:01] <hwilde> digip1mp, lol not a chance
[05:01] <Emperor886> anthony@anthony-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install boinc
[05:01] <Emperor886> Reading package lists... Done
[05:01] <Emperor886> Building dependency tree
[05:01] <Emperor886> Reading state information... Done
[05:01] <Emperor886> E: Couldn't find package boinc
[05:01] <DWSR> digip1mp, no.
[05:01] <DWSR> Emperor886, sudo apt-cache search boinc
[05:01] <IdleOne> !repos | Emperor886
[05:01] <ubotu> Emperor886: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:01] <hwilde> Emperor886, it is boinc-client
[05:01] <IdleOne> Emperor886, follow the above link and enable universe and multiverse
[05:01] <r00tintheb0x> twb, do you have "# Autogenerated by casper" @ the top of /etc/resolv.conf or anything in there? Or, totally blank?
[05:01] <hwilde> IdleOne, the package is called boinc-client not boinc.
[05:01] <IdleOne> hwilde, ty
[05:02] <IdleOne> :)
[05:02] <underwatercow> Why doesn't Totem load DVD menus?
[05:02] <serenityUK> underwatercow, try xine
[05:02] <IdleOne> hwilde, boinc-client will bring in boinc-manager also?
[05:02] <hwilde> r00tintheb0x, twb,  edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf  to not request domain-name-servers and then it won't overwrite /etc/resolv.conf
[05:02] <twb> r00tintheb0x: yes, that header is present.
[05:02] <twb> hwilde: dhclient is not the issue.
[05:02] <underwatercow> serenity: I use VLC more often than not, but I was just curious if there was something I was missing on Totem
[05:02] <digip1mp> darn.  I need some way to compile things for/with? an older version of glibc to address this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471811
[05:03] <r00tintheb0x> yeah hwilde im seeing that now.
[05:03] <ntbnnt> underwatercow: not really
[05:03] <MrAnon> Hail me! For I am the cod metal king!
[05:03] <r00tintheb0x> here's the script http://bzr.debian.org/debian-live/casper-old-branch/scripts/casper-bottom/23networking
[05:03] <ntbnnt> underwatercow: vlc ftw
[05:03] <underwatercow> lol
[05:03] <underwatercow> Totem also crashes often when playing video... seems like an odd choice for default player
[05:03] <ntbnnt> underwatercow: xmms is good too if you like winamp
[05:03] <ntbnnt> underwatercow: ya
[05:03] <r00tintheb0x>     if [ ! -f /root/etc/resolv.conf -a -f /netboot.config ]  ; then
[05:04] <IdleOne> Emperor886, how you doing with boinc-client?
[05:04] <r00tintheb0x> twb, what does your netboot.config file look like?
[05:04] <plowdawg> how do you disable network-manager? i would like to use wifi-radar instead
[05:04] <twb> r00tintheb0x: I'm having trouble finding that file due to the root pivoting.
[05:04] <r00tintheb0x> ah
[05:04] <DigitalNinja> test
[05:05] <hwilde> r00tintheb0x, twb,  cat > /root/etc/resolv.conf <<EOF         this line appears to destroy the file.  it should be catting one file into the other but it is just blank.
[05:05] <serenityUK> welcome DigitalNinja ! we can see you
[05:05] <Emperor886> anthony@anthony-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get boinc-client install
[05:05] <Emperor886> E: Invalid operation boinc-client
[05:05] <r00tintheb0x> yep hwilde, because it cant get to netboot.config
[05:05] <twb> hwilde: it's using a herestring.
[05:05] <DigitalNinja> How much space does a gnome and kde install take?
[05:05] <DigitalNinja> serenityUK: Thanks
[05:05] <IdleOne> Emperor886, sudo apt-get install boinc-client
[05:05] <Emperor886> =/
[05:06] <r00tintheb0x> twb, did you say you had any connectivity @ all?
[05:06] <r00tintheb0x> i.e. ping the router? etc...
[05:06] <twb> Ah, it's copied to /root/var/log
[05:06] <IdleOne> Emperor886, you need to tell apt-get what to do with the app before telling it what app to install :)
[05:06] <serenityUK> DigitalNinja, kde is bigger, because it installs alot of apps with it
[05:06] <Emperor886> idleone: LAWL. Thanks.
[05:06] <IdleOne> np
[05:06] <r00tintheb0x> lol @ LAWL
[05:07] <r00tintheb0x> I TXTed someone that today.
[05:07] <Emperor886> -_-
[05:07] <DigitalNinja> serenityUK: I see. Any idea how big it is?
[05:07] <DigitalNinja> I should install it my self and see
[05:07] <twb> r00tintheb0x: I have working network, just no name resolution
[05:07] <r00tintheb0x> okay, so you can get out... just not by name.
[05:07] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[05:08] <twb> As I said.
[05:08] <r00tintheb0x> twb, i've never used casper before... sorry for my ignorance... but i am good w/linux.
[05:08] <r00tintheb0x> Can you not wget the netboot.config file from somewhere?
[05:08] <r00tintheb0x> then manually run the script, or manually edit /etc/resolv.conf for that matter?
[05:08] <Emperor886> IdleOne: How do I get Folding@Home to run on Boinc?
[05:08] <twb> I'm doing so.
[05:08] <serenityUK> DigitalNinja, i cant remember exactly because i have lost of extra download by now.. gnome on its own was less thatn 2 gig i think.. but you want free space for temp files etc
[05:08] <r00tintheb0x> okay.
[05:09] <twb> netboot.config is autogenerated by casper.
[05:09] <twb> http://paste.lisp.org/display/45731
[05:09] <r00tintheb0x> okay twb what is your goal in this? To have a functional syste?
[05:09] <DigitalNinja> serenityUK: Lets see... How about 10 gig's fro kde and gnome?
[05:09] <r00tintheb0x> Or are you toying w/casper..
[05:09] <serenityUK> DigitalNinja, yes fine..otherwise you will downloads will fill it up
[05:09] <DigitalNinja> serenityUK: That includes /var and /tmp
[05:09] <twb> r00tintheb0x: I already use netbooting Edgy for a number of commercial products.
[05:10] <twb> r00tintheb0x: I wish to migrate these products to Feisty.
[05:10] <serenityUK> 10 is plenety
[05:10] <DigitalNinja> serenityUK: I'll put /home on another partition
[05:10] <r00tintheb0x> I see twb
[05:10] <DigitalNinja> 250 gig drive
[05:10] <r00tintheb0x> can you get 23networking from a edgy machine to the fiesty machine and do a "diff" on them?
[05:10] <r00tintheb0x> feisty*
[05:10] <twb> An example customer is http://www.justice.vic.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/DOJ+Internet/Home/Prisons/Prisons+in+Victoria/JUSTICE+-+Prison+Profiles+-+Metropolitan+Remand+Centre
[05:11] <twb> r00tintheb0x: well yes, but a number of other things have changed during that period.
[05:11] <r00tintheb0x> touche  twb
[05:11] <IdleOne> Emperor886, I apologise I was certain that Folding@Home could be run with Boinc :/ very sorry
[05:11] <r00tintheb0x> hmm, i see it being an issue here also twb
[05:11] <riotkittie> weird. oh. oh! oh.
[05:12] <Emperor886> Lol, anything else that runs Folding@Home?
[05:12] <IdleOne> Emperor886, just looked it up and saw that it isnt a boinc participating project
[05:12] <r00tintheb0x> twb, @ the end https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDShareThisCD
[05:12] <r00tintheb0x> "At this point, clients can netboot, and will come up just like the liveCD, be able to perform installations and run applications. Network access may glitch, as resolv.conf wasn't correctly configured for me, we should look at passing that through from casper."
[05:12] <IdleOne> Emperor886, paste the error you are getting from the folding app in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give me the url I'll see if I can help
[05:13] <twb> r00tintheb0x: interesting, thank you.
[05:13] <twb> I suspect the script is buggy
[05:14] <r00tintheb0x> no prob twb, sorry i cant be of more help. I've never had any hands on experience w/casper though. Im thinking so also twb
[05:14] <serenityUK> DigitalNinja,  ok even better.. if you home is separate you can even move it to another drive without breaking things. also reinstall and keep you settings
[05:14] <hwilde> twb,  cat > /root/etc/resolv.conf <<EOF         this line appears to destroy the file.  it should be catting one file into the other but it is just blank.
[05:14] <DigitalNinja> serenityUK: That's the idea
[05:14] <twb> hwilde: it takes a here string as input.
[05:14] <Emperor886> IdleOne: Where do you find the app? I thought it was a service?
[05:15] <IdleOne> Emperor886, let me see the error please
[05:15] <hwilde> twb, umm if you say so.  I think that just writes "EOF" to the file and destroys anything that was in it.
[05:15] <twb> hwilde: you think wrong.
[05:15] <DigitalNinja> serenityUK: Thanks for the info. I'll install gnome and then add kde. That way I know for sure how much space it takes.
[05:15] <evri2> Guys,anyone does have 7xxxx go series laptop card?I want to ask which driver did you download nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[05:15] <Emperor886> IdleOne: What error?
[05:16] <serenityUK> DigitalNinja, yes you can pick one to use at the login screen
[05:16] <DigitalNinja> Yup
[05:16] <IdleOne> Emperor886, you were having problems install folding@home right?
[05:16] <DigitalNinja> I don't use kde but I want to know how much space both will take up
[05:16] <twb> DigitalNinja: aptitude will tell you
[05:16] <serenityUK> DigitalNinja, i saw a guy on the forums had 3 installs on ubuntu kubuntu and xubuntu didnt realise lol
[05:17] <Emperor886> anthony@anthony-laptop:~$ sudo update-rc.d folding defaults
[05:17] <Emperor886> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/folding: file does not exist
[05:17] <serenityUK> twb, he hasn't installed yet
[05:17] <r00tintheb0x> mmm thunderbird 2 pretty
[05:17] <serenityUK> twb wants to create partition big enough for gnome and kde
[05:17] <twb> $ aptitude -s -y install kde | grep -i after.unpacking
[05:17] <twb> Need to get 259MB/286MB of archives. After unpacking 779MB will be used.
[05:18] <twb> -s means simulate -- i.e. it won't install.
[05:18] <digip1mp> does anyone know of a way to run psybnc on ubuntu stably? (psy works great when compiled with/on older versions of glibc, but is terrible on newer versions of glibc that ubuntu ships with): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471811
[05:18] <twb> If you're doing the *initial* OS install, then I don't know.  I'd just use LVM and grow the filesystem later if needed.
[05:19] <twb> For a workstation 4GB should be plenty, for the OS partition.
[05:19] <serenityUK> unless you comile a kernel lol
[05:20] <serenityUK> compile
[05:20] <twb> r00tintheb0x: I found the bug, I think
[05:20] <r00tintheb0x> sweet!
[05:20] <twb> r00tintheb0x: see how it says "cat netboot.config" instead of "cat /netboot.config"
[05:20] <r00tintheb0x> Where's it @
[05:20] <r00tintheb0x> ah, pathz0r
[05:20] <r00tintheb0x> makes sense, unless the script is @ the level of netboot.config @ the time.
[05:21] <twb> r00tintheb0x: unfortunately, casper is riddled with such bugs
[05:22] <DigitalNinja> twb: Thanks! I'll check it out.
[05:22] <r00tintheb0x> That blows, there's not a cleaned up version twb ? Like, NVU to Kompozer?
[05:22] <twb> r00tintheb0x: eh?
[05:22] <Emperor886> IdleOne: You still here?
[05:22] <serenityUK> did you read the dissection of automatix?  labelled as dangerous now
[05:22] <erpo> I need to upload a large file via FTP from my residential broadband connection. The ftp command can do this, but it consumes all of my upstream bandwidth, which blocks or greatly slows all of my other Internet activities. How can I throttle the upload to a reasonable speed?
[05:22] <r00tintheb0x> well, you know NVU the HTML editor?
[05:23] <twb> I know of it.
[05:23] <r00tintheb0x> They picked it back up and started developing it again as "kompozer"\
[05:23] <IdleOne> Emperor886, yes. seems Im running into a similar problem as you are
[05:23] <twb> I see.
[05:23] <IdleOne> Emperor886, trying to figure it out
[05:23] <twb> No, there is nothing like that.
[05:23] <r00tintheb0x> Maybe there's someone else developing something "cleaner" than casper.
[05:23] <r00tintheb0x> hm
[05:23] <Emperor886> IdleOne: OKay, thanks. :D
[05:23] <twb> However, it is being actively developed.
[05:23] <r00tintheb0x> twb, You'd have to go through and clean it up then.
[05:23] <twb> Yes, I started doing so.
[05:23] <r00tintheb0x> really, thats good @ least.
[05:24] <twb> But I have personality conflicts with the developers, specifically Baumann
[05:24] <Zambezi> Anyone know howto setup a connection to i psyBNC-proxy in Irssi? I set password, adress, but I need to add name and nick too and I can't find out how.
[05:24] <r00tintheb0x> Obviously by someone who takes no pride in their code.
[05:24] <r00tintheb0x> Use FreeBSD.
[05:24] <r00tintheb0x> Its a LOT cleaner than l00n1x
[05:24] <twb> It's still UNIX
[05:24] <parkbench> hey, just wanted to pop in really quick to ask a question to the hiv mind
[05:24] <twb> I want Genera or something :-)
[05:25] <parkbench> im thinking of installing ubuntu on my new laptop--is wireless still as much of a headache as it used to be? i havent really looked into my specific set's specs yet, unfortunately. i will when i get this ball rolling but i just want to know what im in for
[05:25] <r00tintheb0x> Well, Linux is a lot different than UNIX to me.
[05:25] <serenityUK> lol netbsd's big new feature is beryl, support for a dead program
[05:25] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic
[05:25] <r00tintheb0x> I heart Solaris.
[05:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:25] <r00tintheb0x> okay Music_Shuffle i get it, sorry.
[05:25] <serenityUK> sorry i mean pc-bsd obviously
[05:26] <the_padawan> hi all, why would my joystick not show up in /dev/input/js0? modules are loaded
[05:26] <mzuverink> How do I change the volume name of a usb drive?
[05:26] <erpo> parkbench: Ubuntu Feisty comes with NetworkManager, which makes wireless networking a snap. You have to have a supported wireless card, though.
[05:26] <roninrun> @ parkbench ... wireless support is far superior in fiesty ... mine worked out of the box
[05:26] <r00tintheb0x> Thunderbird wont authinticate w/gmail pop.
[05:26] <r00tintheb0x> wth?!
[05:26] <twb> r00tintheb0x: have you seen Nexenta?
[05:26] <Wintersmith> parkbench: Wireless was far easier to setup for me this time than it has been in the past for a broadcom chipset
[05:26] <r00tintheb0x> twb, lets go to ubuntu-offtopic and chat
[05:26] <r00tintheb0x> keep this chan for support
[05:26] <twb> r00tintheb0x: both mutt and fetchmail can talk to pop.gmail.com, for me.
[05:27] <parkbench> roninrun: thats good to hear i gues
[05:27] <parkbench> ill be trying it out tomorrow then
[05:27] <parkbench> thanks for the heads up
[05:27] <blazemonger> has anyone experienced Mint?
[05:27] <r00tintheb0x> yeah twb i've had it working before.
[05:27] <r00tintheb0x> I dont know what is up.
[05:28] <twb> r00tintheb0x: ssl on?
[05:28] <r00tintheb0x> yup
[05:28] <amd> * Topic is 'Global Forum :: GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :( (IloveDubya) :: #Politics Channel
[05:28] <r00tintheb0x> port 995
[05:28] <amd> GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(
[05:28] <r00tintheb0x> username@gmail.com format for the username.
[05:28] <twb> I don't really want to export the whole chroot over tftp, but it's soooooo much more convenient...
[05:28] <amd> Sorry.
[05:28] <r00tintheb0x> pop.gmail.com
[05:28] <amd> I had to use FREE SPEECH.
[05:28] <serenityUK> blazemonger, yes, it has all the vidio codecs preinstalled, and things like realplayer
[05:29] <amd> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME>
[05:29] <amd> I having a problem with an X program!
[05:29] <Music_Shuffle> !caps | amd
[05:29] <twb> amd: the answer lies within your heart.
[05:29] <ubotu> amd: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:29] <Emperor886> Be bach in 5.
[05:30] <r00tintheb0x> saying "username and password is not accepted", but i can sign in w/the web based client.
[05:30] <amd> xcalc is not working properly!
[05:30] <digip1mp> does anyone know of a way to run psybnc on ubuntu stably? (psy works great when compiled with/on older versions of glibc, but is terrible on newer versions of glibc that ubuntu ships with): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471811
[05:31] <sloloem> I have a friend using Ubuntu, is there any way to setup the system to provide a full remote desktop solution similar to windows' RDC, like VNC but with sound
[05:31] <amd> xcalc is not working properly!
[05:31] <IdleOne> Emperor886, download the client from http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html and save the file to your Desktop then in terminal type sudo mkdir /folding and then type cd /folding then you type chmod +x FAH504-Linux.exe and then type ./FAH504-Linux.exe ( this will run the cofig script )
[05:31] <amd> xcalc is not working properly! HELP! ME!
[05:31] <amd> xcalc is not working properly! HELP! ME!
[05:31] <amd> GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE
[05:31] <amd> sorry
[05:31] <amd> Stupid clipboard.
[05:31] <twb> sloloem: there is an xrdp server in Debian Sid, it's only a matter of time before it gets synced into Ubuntu.
[05:31] <the_giver> from the live cd... would that indicate whether internet will work with the actual installiation
[05:31] <the_giver> if it it works on the live cd.. then it works with the actual install?
[05:31] <the_giver> or what
[05:31] <aoirthoir> its ok amd. What's wrong with your xcalc?
[05:32] <the_giver> ???
[05:32] <erpo> the_giver: Most likely.
[05:32] <aoirthoir> the_giver, generally yes. But for instance sometimes things work in the live cd but do not work in the install....ive had that issue with video.
[05:32] <IdleOne> Emperor886, here is the wiki page http://fahwiki.net/index.php/Running_the_FAH_client_on_Linux
[05:32] <sloloem> twb, that does sound?
[05:32] <r00tintheb0x> This password authentication thing is really pissing me off.
[05:32] <twb> sloloem: I haven't got it to work yet, personally
[05:33] <twb> sloloem: but the RDP protocol includes networked sound.
[05:33] <twb> sloloem: I'd also check out what the LTSP people are up to
[05:33] <amd> When I type in -1 * -1 I get +1! But Gene Ray from www.timecube.com says my computers is wrong! How do I fix xcalc? Does it use bc?
[05:33] <amd> www.thewisesthuman.com must be right.
[05:34] <twb> amd: plonk
[05:34] <aoirthoir> heh amd
[05:34] <erpo> amd: You need to run xcalc with time cube compatibility mode on.
[05:34] <Music_Shuffle> amd, lol.
[05:34] <amd> xcalc is educated stupid!
[05:34] <frostburn> xcalc runs fine on amd64
[05:35] <frostburn> i just opened it.
[05:35] <amd> Gene Ray told me my xcalc is educated stupid.
[05:35] <Shaddox> Hello everyone. How can I set my CPU's default governor and frequency so I don't have to set it manually every time?
[05:35] <aoirthoir> i usually count with my fingers, but it seems xcalc is doing just fine
[05:35] <mattgyver83> Hey room. I am having some screen size, and resolution problems.  I cannot seem to correctly set my screen res to 32bit and size to fill the screen correctly.
[05:35] <the_padawan> hi all, how do can i figure out the device node for my joystick?
[05:35] <Music_Shuffle> aoirthoir, you too?  I thought that was just me! :P
[05:35] <amd> GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(
[05:35] <amd> Err
[05:35] <Emperor886> anthony@anthony-laptop:/folding$ chmod +x FAH504-Linux.exe
[05:35] <Emperor886> chmod: cannot access `FAH504-Linux.exe': No such file or directory
[05:36] <amd> Emperor886: stat the file.
[05:36] <Emperor886> amd: How?
[05:36] <amd> You can't.
[05:36] <Shaddox> How can I set my CPU's default governor and frequency so I don't have to set it manually every time?
[05:36] <Music_Shuffle> Shaddox, in the...BIOS?
[05:36] <r00tintheb0x> Emperor886, "sudo chmod +x /path/to/FAH504-Linux.exe"
[05:36] <Shaddox> Music_Shuffle: My Bios won't let me set my CPU scaling.
[05:36] <erpo> amd: Switch to your xchat window, hold down alt, and hit F4 on your keyboard. That will take care of your xcalc problem.
[05:37] <Music_Shuffle> Shaddox, err, sorry, I'm confused, then how are you setting it manually?
[05:37] <Shaddox> Music_Shuffle: I heard there was a way to do it on the OS-level, too, in Ubuntu
[05:37] <erpo> Shaddox: Use /etc/init.d/rc.local
[05:37] <Shaddox> Music_Shuffle: I currently use the CPU Scaling/Frequency monitor, set to userspace/50%
[05:37] <EvadeIgnore> :DDDDDDDDD
[05:37] <Shaddox> Cause otherwise I overheat
[05:37] <RiCCo69> holly fuck guys. all I wanna say is thank you it's been 3 days trying to install ubuntu and now I finally have it. wirless is working and everything. without yall I wouldn't have it going. congrats all here's a success story. everything works except for the cube. I guess I'll figure that out later.Peace
[05:37] <Music_Shuffle> Shaddox, ooooh.  :)
[05:37] <Music_Shuffle> RiCCo69, language. :P
[05:38] <Music_Shuffle> RiCCo69, but good luck anyways.  :)
[05:38] <EvadeIgnore> GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. :(GEORGE W. BUSH IS SO SEXY! Too bad I'm a dude. 
[05:38] <Emperor886> anthony@anthony-laptop:/folding$ sudo chmod +x /path/to/FAH504-Linux.exe
[05:38] <Emperor886> chmod: cannot access `/path/to/FAH504-Linux.exe': No such file or directory
[05:38] <erpo> Shaddox: err..../etc/rc.local
[05:38] <EvadeIgnore> Hyper ;(
[05:38] <aoirthoir> congrats RiCCo69
[05:38] <Music_Shuffle> !ops | EvadeIgnore
[05:38] <ubotu> EvadeIgnore: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[05:38] <IdleOne> Emperor886, what is the name of the file you downloaded?
[05:38] <Shaddox> erpo: Er, and what do I put in there?
[05:38] <Music_Shuffle> Thanks.
[05:38] <nixternal> no, thank you :)
[05:38] <Emperor886> Linux
[05:38] <Emperor886> (x86-64 bit, only)
[05:38] <Emperor886> SMP client console version
[05:38] <Nutubuntu> what was that?
[05:39] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[05:39] <erpo> Shaddox: Whatever commands you would normally execute in order to set the governor/scaling to userspace/50%.
[05:39] <the_giver> HELLO
[05:39] <erpo> Shaddox: Any commands you execute in there get run on startup.
[05:39] <Music_Shuffle> Hello the_giver
[05:39] <the_giver> anyone here know if the live ubuntu cd supports alt  f2
[05:39] <IdleOne> Emperor886, why you running the 64bit?
[05:39] <the_giver> which is the "run" window
[05:39] <frostburn> how would one print to pdf?
[05:40] <Emperor886> I have a 64-bit version of Ubuntu.
[05:40] <r00tintheb0x> deluge rocks.
[05:40] <kersinc> #ubuntu-sv
[05:40] <james296> how can I get the main gnome icons to look exactly like the Human icons but, green...
[05:40] <r00tintheb0x> Can anyone tell me if their GMail account is accessable with a POP CLIENT please?
[05:40] <frostburn> the_giver, i believe so
[05:40] <Nutubuntu> frostburn, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[05:41] <erpo> james296: You edit them all in the gimp/inkscape. There is no easy-to-use color setting.
[05:41] <frostburn> Nutubuntu, ta
[05:41] <erpo> r00tintheb0x: Mine is.
[05:41] <Nutubuntu> frostburn, or from OO.o, scribus, and various other pdf-enabled apps, it's just a menu selection
[05:41] <r00tintheb0x> erpo, using what client?
[05:41] <james296> grrrrrrrrr
[05:41] <r00tintheb0x> heh, nmap's current version is "4.20"
[05:41] <RiCCo69> allright I'm running beryl. I'm trying to figure out the cube I've just got Beryl installed but I cant get the cube to work even though it's checked in the prog. any idea
[05:41] <erpo> r00tintheb0x: Evolution.
[05:41] <r00tintheb0x> ok erpo i'll test w/that.
[05:41] <Justi1> what should I do if the usb flashdrive that has the ubuntu installer is not being recognized by the bios or the 'smart boot manager'?
[05:42] <r00tintheb0x> thanks erpo
[05:42] <RiCCo69> the cube was working before I started fuckin around with my wirless
[05:42] <erpo> RiCCo69: Make sure you have 4 virtual desktops.
[05:42] <cfedde> why has firefox decided to start coredumping?
[05:42] <Nutubuntu> RiCCo69, what's your record for consecutive sentences without the Fword? ;P
[05:42] <RiCCo69> lol 2
[05:42] <Emperor886> IdleOne: Will do, bye.
[05:43] <RiCCo69> erpo I've only got one desptop at the bottom of my screen
[05:43] <evri2> anyone here know how can i disable gpu(not CPU) throltting(i want MAX SPEED GPU)
[05:43] <RiCCo69> I've got my effects on
[05:43] <RiCCo69> and beryl installed
[05:43] <RiCCo69> it was working with 2 desktopd
[05:43] <RiCCo69> mpw I have 1
[05:43] <RiCCo69> mpw = now
[05:44] <twb> r00tintheb0x: didn't fix it :-/
[05:44] <erpo> RiCCo69: That's your problem. You need 4 for the desktop cube to work.
[05:44] <r00tintheb0x> dang twb, that sucks.
[05:44] <RiCCo69> erpo how do I get 4
[05:44] <r00tintheb0x> Try compiling from source twb ?
[05:44] <twb> r00tintheb0x: compiling what?
[05:44] <james296> another question, how can I run nautilus as root with the same theme as when running it not as root?
[05:44] <james296> cuz when I run it as root it looks VERY ugly
[05:44] <marginoferror> Can anyone tell me what compiz.real is?
[05:45] <r00tintheb0x> Casper twb.
[05:45] <twb> james296: sudo cp ~sillyuser/.gtkrc-2.0 ~root/.gtkrc-2.0
[05:45] <marginoferror> I am running gutsy and compiz.real hangs on the first login of every boot.
[05:45] <twb> r00tintheb0x: it's shell scripts.
[05:45] <r00tintheb0x> Oh
[05:45] <r00tintheb0x> lolopool
[05:45] <erpo> RiCCo69: Right click on the beryl tray icon and choose Beryl Settings Manager. It's in there...
[05:45] <r00tintheb0x> durtie durrr.
[05:45] <twb> Indeed.
[05:45] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, its been a long day.
[05:45] <RiCCo69> thanx ill fidle i there
[05:45] <twb> All days are.
[05:46] <r00tintheb0x> Right, im out of the UNIX admin side of things.
[05:46] <r00tintheb0x> Moving to security analyst, should be a refreshing switch.
[05:46] <the_giver> helloo anyone here who can actually help
[05:46] <r00tintheb0x> the_giver, depends on the problem.
[05:46] <james296> didnt work
[05:46] <the_giver> if i'm using the live cd.. will i be able to have internet
[05:46] <james296> it said the directory is not found
[05:47] <james296> the_giver, yes
[05:47] <Ce_Ang3L> hy
[05:47] <marginoferror> the_giver: Yes, UNLESS you are using a wireless card that requires Windows drivers
[05:47] <the_giver> hmm
[05:47] <marginoferror> In that case, probably, but not always
[05:47] <the_giver> which F key is the GUI
[05:47] <james296> so how do I change that theme...
[05:47] <Emperor886> Anyone know how I run Boinc if I have it installed and everything?
[05:48] <kitche> the_giver: f7
[05:48] <the_giver> why do the ctrl +f2-4 dont work
[05:48] <the_giver> like the termianls dont do anythign when i type in
[05:48] <the_giver> ls
[05:48] <the_giver> or clear
[05:48] <the_giver> or anythign
[05:48] <the_giver> its so annoying
[05:48] <r00tintheb0x> wth @ Unable to connect to POP server pop.gmail.com.
[05:48] <r00tintheb0x> Error sending password: -ERR [AUTH]  Username and password not accepted.
[05:48] <the_giver> terminals*
[05:48] <marginoferror> james296: twb's instructions were a general example
[05:48] <james296> what?
[05:48] <twb> marginoferror: watch your mouth
[05:48] <marginoferror> ...?
[05:49] <marginoferror> james296: what's your username on your local machine?  Is it james296?
[05:49] <james296> like I said that didnt work
[05:49] <twb> Oh never mind.
[05:49] <james296> no its james but I even did that
[05:49] <Emperor886> r00tinthebox: Can you try and help me with my Folding@Home problem?
[05:49] <twb> james296: if you are just blindly running any commands we tell you to, you have a much bigger problem.
[05:49] <the_giver> HELLO
[05:49] <marginoferror> sudo cp /home/james/.gtkrc-2.0 /root/.gtkrc-2.0
[05:50] <marginoferror> Try that.
[05:50] <the_giver> why wouldnt the full screen terminals
[05:50] <the_giver> work..
[05:50] <the_giver> the ones on f2 through f6
[05:50] <the_giver> like nothign happens when i type a damn command
[05:50] <the_giver> do i need sudo???
[05:50] <marginoferror> the_giver: On the live CD some terminals are reserved for specific purposes
[05:50] <the_giver> sigh
[05:50] <kitche> the_giver: you don't have anything in your home directory so ls probably won't show anything
[05:50] <marginoferror> the_giver: On an actual install, they are all accessible
[05:50] <marginoferror> the_giver: Right?  You're talking about the live CD?
[05:50] <RiCCo69> allright I have 4 desktops but i STILL CANT switch screens dragging my mouse even though the optionis checked any ideas?
[05:51] <Ashfire908> does The GIMP support EXIF?
[05:51] <the_giver> so can i even test the terminal
[05:51] <the_giver> where is the terminal located
[05:51] <james296> no
[05:51] <r00tintheb0x> i think its the password manager
[05:51] <the_giver> ??? why wouldnt firefox start?
[05:51] <james296> I changed the user name to my username
[05:51] <the_giver> yeah the live cd
[05:51] <RiCCo69> giver you talkin gto me?
[05:51] <the_giver> anyone..
[05:51] <Cew_An9eL> hy
[05:51] <jordan__> Good evening, I have a small network at home with 6 computers running ubuntu.  On each i have thunderbird for email.  Its nice, but each one has to redownload emails.  On the head of my network is a server (gateway).  Is it possible to use this server to download the emails then the 5 clients download from the server as if it were downloading using the standard method?
[05:51] <marginoferror> the_giver: Control-F1 works, right?  But F2-F6 don't?
[05:52] <marginoferror> jordan__: There are a number of ways to deal with this problem.
[05:52] <the_giver> THIS IS VERY annoying.. i just want ot test if my net is working
[05:52] <the_giver> and i can do that through the terminal.. but ubuntu live cd sucks =-(
[05:52] <the_giver> and nothing is loading
[05:52] <marginoferror> jordan__: The best is to use IMAP and store your email on your mail server, but not all mail servers support this.
[05:52] <the_giver>  i dont know if F1 works
[05:52] <Ashfire908> the_giver: try network tools
[05:53] <twb> jordan__: IMAP!
[05:53] <marginoferror> jordan__: So one way to do it is to set your gateway to download mail once via "fetchmail"
[05:53] <Ashfire908> the_giver: or manually pinging the router
[05:53] <marginoferror> jordan__: And then, set up an IMAP server on that gateway.  This is a pain to set up, but it's a good solution.
[05:54] <the_giver> I cant cuz i cant a god damn termianl to work
[05:54] <jordan__> marginoferror : is there any script or easier way of doing this?
[05:54] <the_giver> i'm trying to ping google.com
[05:54] <the_giver> but stupid termianls dont work
[05:54] <qweqweqwe> How do you get rid of the 3D desktop effects?  some side effects are still lingering
[05:54] <the_giver> nothing works
[05:54] <the_giver> the live cd sucks
[05:54] <the_giver> =-(
[05:54] <the_giver> i'll try to restart it
[05:54] <marginoferror> jordan__: Not that I know of.  The easier way to do it is to get a mail server that supports IMAP - there are other ways to do it, but none of them are very easy
[05:55] <qweqweqwe> the_giver: they're called shells :-)  terminals are machines what you type at
[05:55] <marginoferror> the_giver: What's wrong with Applications > accessories > terminal?
[05:55] <twb> qweqweqwe: I remember the shells back in `39
[05:55] <jordan__> marginoferror : is there any how-to or turorial you're aware of on the www
[05:55] <qweqweqwe> can someone help me get rid of the residual effects of 3D Desktop Effects?
[05:55] <twb> qweqweqwe: C-M-f1? ;-)
[05:55] <Ashfire908> the_giver: might not give anything useful, but you could run a disk intregrty check
[05:55] <cfedde> is there something to check that might explain why firefox is coredumping?  I can't even seem to find the core files.
[05:56] <marginoferror> jordan__: Well, there are all sorts of tutorials for installing fetchmail, and then after that there are all sorts of tutorials for installing an IMAP server
[05:56] <qweqweqwe> twb: what?
[05:56] <marginoferror> jordan__: But I don't know which are the best for Ubuntu in particular, and I haven't done it in years anyway
[05:56] <twb> qweqweqwe: never mind.
[05:56] <marginoferror> jordan__: Basically, your options are:
[05:56] <twb> r00tintheb0x: ok, now I really found the problem
[05:56] <marginoferror> 1) Set up your own IMAP server that downloads your mail automatically
[05:56] <twb> r00tintheb0x: stupid dumbhead casper developers didn't notice awk isn't in the ramdisk
[05:57] <james296> ok this is frustrating, I got my theme to look so...PERFECT! BUT, I want it enabled even as a root user
[05:57] <marginoferror> 2) Get another IMAP server (fastmail.fm has cheap, decent service) and forward your mail to that.
[05:57] <james296> how do I do that
[05:57] <marginoferror> 3) Only use mail on one computer, and set it up so that you can run applications remotely from that computer
[05:57] <qweqweqwe> twb: are you asking if I'm on chemotherapy?
[05:57] <twb> james296: you shouldn't be running GUI apps as root anyway
[05:57] <marginoferror> Anything I'm missing?
[05:57] <frostburn> james296, you shouldn't be using root anyway
[05:57] <james296> well why not
[05:57] <twb> qweqweqwe: take it however you like
[05:57] <frostburn> it's unsecure
[05:57] <frostburn> insecure*
[05:58] <james296> well I do use root when I need to
[05:58] <twb> james296: because root is able to do Bad Things
[05:58] <qweqweqwe> twb: cyclophosphamide, methotrexate, and fluorouracil
[05:58] <jordan__> marginoferror : I think in my situation, the remote SSH (with x forwarding) across my network with thunderbird would be the best option
[05:58] <james296> if you dont know what your doing
[05:58] <Eleaf> Hello.
[05:58] <twb> Therefore you only use root when Bad Things are necessary
[05:58] <frostburn> james296, all root commands can be done by sudo, sudo -i
[05:58] <marginoferror> james296: Ubuntu is designed to be usable without ever logging in as root
[05:58] <james296> so how can I enable the same theme Im using?
[05:58] <r00tintheb0x> lolol twb
[05:58] <r00tintheb0x> good job!
[05:58] <r00tintheb0x> Now you can laugh @ them for being morons.
[05:58] <qweqweqwe> twb: is that another way of asking asl ?
[05:59] <Cew_DolPinz> hhhhy
[05:59] <marginoferror> jordan__: Okay.  That is easier to set up.
[05:59] <james296> LOL
[05:59] <jordan__> marginoferror : I am not competent enough to mess with email servers (yet?) but ssh is within my grasp.  thank you for your help
[05:59] <Eleaf> I upgraded to feisty on my ibook, and now my synaptics touchpad has tap-to-click enabled, and it's really annoying having the mouse click almost every time I touch the trackpad.  I tried to disable it using various xorg.conf settings from the forums (which worked for a few hours), but now it has randomly reverted back to tapping after I woke it from a brisk sleep.
[05:59] <twb> qweqweqwe: that's a question your should ask yourself, Megatron.
[05:59] <jhon> Hi, someone can help me with SSH please!! (msg me)
[05:59] <marginoferror> jordan__: Good luck.  Remember that you don't necessarily need SSH forwarding over your home network - you can use X without encryption
[05:59] <arooni> should in enable the option:  "Plug & Play O/S" for ubuntu 7.04 (in bios)?
[05:59] <james296> ok, Im being serious, if I want this to be the way I want it to be, let me do it, after all, Ubuntu is meant mainly for users to tweak the OS to their very needs
[05:59] <NETWizz> I upgraded my video card and the instructions for linux won't work
[06:00] <NETWizz> It says righ tin the instructions manual to type
[06:00] <NETWizz> yum install nvidia-glx.i386
[06:00] <Eleaf> Does anybody know of a way to disable the horrible tapping??  I tried enabling SHMconfig in xorg, but qsynaptics and gsynaptics say it's disabled
[06:00] <r00tintheb0x> Okay, why the hell arent any of my email clients working w/GMail pop.
[06:00] <marginoferror> jordan__: If this seems insecure, remember that downloading mail via POP is almost always plaintext over the internet anyway =)
[06:00] <james296> so how do I enable it?
[06:00] <Flannel> NETWizz: that's because your instructions are short sighted.  You don't need to do that, you need to install it from the repos:
[06:00] <Flannel> !nvidia | NETWizz
[06:00] <ubotu> NETWizz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:00] <Ashfire908> sudo smdo, i use root terminal more. then again i'm always using commands as root cause i'm always making folders in places like /home/
[06:00] <chylli> I cant find file /usr/share/apps/kxkb/ubuntu.xmodmap used in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80ubuntu-xmodmap
[06:00] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, BIOS
[06:00] <chylli> where can I find it ?
[06:00] <r00tintheb0x> CMOS, whatever
[06:00] <NETWizz> thanks
[06:01] <jordan__> marginoferrror how would I run programs on another computer without ssh with x forwarding
[06:01] <Eleaf> r00723r0, uhm, there is none on ibooks silly.  It's in Xorg.
[06:01] <jhon> Hi, someone can help me with SSH please!! (msg me)
[06:01] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, ^^
[06:01] <Flannel> !anyone | jhon
[06:01] <ubotu> jhon: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:01] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, tapping is enabled/disabled with the xorg sssdfynaptics options (grr tapped)
[06:01] <Eleaf> synaptics options*
[06:01] <marginoferror> jordan__: X itself is meant to be run over a network.  That's how it's designed.  So you can do two things:
[06:01] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, "the horrible tapping" i take it is your synaptics pad?
[06:01] <Eleaf> yes r00tintheb0x
[06:01] <jhon> I have installed SSH server in Dappe, can acces from the terminal server but not from another computer, the port 22 in router its open
[06:02] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, there was a big problem with trackpad users in dapper, and now it's happening to me suddenly in feisty.
[06:02] <Eleaf> people couldn't disable tapping, I can't figure it out either.
[06:02] <Eleaf> After disabling tap and adding SHMconfig in xorg.conf, the tapping went away, untill I put my computer to sleep and opened it up again now it sef the tapping
[06:02] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, check this out "sudo aptitude show sssdfynaptics"
[06:02] <marginoferror> jordan__: You can use ssh to launch the command on one machine but displaying on another
[06:02] <p1ls> how can i zip a file in linux
[06:02] <marginoferror> jordan__: (I haven't done this in a long time)
[06:02] <r00tintheb0x> Might be of help Eleaf
[06:02] <Eleaf> ...
[06:03] <Eleaf> uhm, no.
[06:03] <jordan__> marginoferror: yes that is what i was talking about
[06:03] <CheeseGardener> Question: what is the manual disk setup for a system with 3gb of ram, and 250 gb of hard drive space????? should I put 6 gb of swap? how much for / and /home?????
[06:03] <marginoferror> jordan__: Or you can directly log on to that machine remotely.  Ubuntu's login screen supports logging in elsewhere using XDMCP or something - my acronym might be mixed up there
[06:03] <p1ls> how can i zip a file in linux
[06:03] <Eleaf> That was a typo due to the tapping r00tintheb0x ...
[06:03] <frostburn> p1ls, $zip or use the gui and archive
[06:03] <r00tintheb0x> p1ls, type this "man zip"
[06:03] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, I have the packages installed, it's a bug in ubuntu.
[06:03] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, who "um no"
[06:03] <james296> never mind I figured it out
[06:03] <craigbass1976> So today I saw a "desktop effects" choice as I was noodling through stuff looking for a change of scenery.  How long has been there?  I just upgraded to feisty from dapper a couple weeks ago, but it might have been in dapper for months and I didn't know.  I like the cube desktop
[06:03] <jhon> I have installed SSH server in Dappe, can acces from the terminal server but not from another computer, the port 22 in router its open
[06:03] <Eleaf> I'm wondering if therums has helpede is a way around it, since nothing from the forr
[06:03] <r00tintheb0x> okay, then why are we trying to fix it here?
[06:03] <Eleaf> grr tapping!!!
[06:03] <craigbass1976> So today I saw a "desktop effects" choice as I was noodling through stuff looking for a change of scenery.  How long has been there?  I just upgraded to feisty from dapper a couple weeks ago, but it might have been in dapper for months and I didn't know.  I like the cube desktop
[06:03] <r00tintheb0x> craigbass1976, enough!
[06:03] <jordan__> marginoferror: i am aware of these methods of x forwarding
[06:04] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, because I'm using ubuntu, what do you thinK??
[06:04] <marginoferror> jordan__: The difference is that SSH with X forwarding is tunneled through SSH and is encrypted, while using SSH to launch the program doesn't necessarily have to be.  But now that I think about it...  X forwarding is much easier to set up and more robust.  So I guess that is a better option.
[06:04] <Flannel> jhon: Are you sure your IP is correct?
[06:04] <r00tintheb0x> jesus god.
[06:04] <jhon> Flannel: yeap! sure!
[06:04] <marginoferror> jordan__: Okay.  I think I've reached the limit of my knowledge now, but good luck
[06:04] <Flannel> marginoferror, jordan__, XDMCP also is UDP only, which means it (by itself) can't traverse your NAT.
[06:04] <craigbass1976> r00tintheb0x, only half my post went up the first time, or did everyone else see all of it?
[06:04] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, if its a known bug, rewrite the code, recompile the code, and use the program.
[06:04] <Eleaf> Anybody know about athe syn
[06:04] <Eleaf> anybody know about the synaptics problem?
[06:04] <Flannel> jhon: What happens when you connect?  Refused? or what?
[06:04] <marginoferror> Flannel: This is true, but I think in this case he's accessing a gateway from a client inside his NAT
[06:04] <jordan__> Flannel: are you sure?
[06:04] <marginoferror> Flannel: Could be wrong
[06:04] <r00tintheb0x> craigbass1976, if its too long for one line, use two. If you're going to flood, use a pastebin.
[06:04] <jhon> when I try to connect just wait and after a few minuts say the time is over
[06:04] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, that's one of the most ridiculous requests I've heard recently..
[06:05] <Flannel> jordan__: I am.
[06:05] <jordan__> Flannel: I use XDMCP through NATs all the time
[06:05] <CheeseGardener> Question: what is the manual disk setup for a system with 3gb of ram, and 250 gb of hard drive space????? should I put 6 gb of swap? how much for / and /home?????
[06:05] <r00tintheb0x> craigbass1976, its been there for a while i thin.
[06:05] <r00tintheb0x> k
[06:05] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, that helps me in no way at all.
[06:05] <Nutubuntu> craigbass1976, looked the same both times, fwiw
[06:05] <craigbass1976> hrmmm  I thought four was usually the limit
[06:05] <jhon> but if I connect from a terminal in the same server it works
[06:05] <Eleaf> a very bad excuse.
[06:05] <Flannel> jordan__: within the NAT yes, not outside of it
[06:05] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, what do you want to accomplish?
[06:05] <r00tintheb0x> You said there's a Bug in xorg.
[06:05] <Eleaf> disable trackpad tapping r00tintheb0x
[06:05] <jordan__> Flannel: I use XDMCP through school NATs to home.  Yes, insecure.. but i dont care
[06:05] <r00tintheb0x> SQUASH IT!
[06:06] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, there are many people with this problem, but I haven't seen anybody with feisty, all really old versions.
[06:06] <Flannel> jordan__: using nothing but XDMCP?
[06:06] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, my trackpad has worked fine without tapping, but it was suddenly enabled in feisty.
[06:06] <jordan__> Flannel: yes
[06:06] <Flannel> jhon: it says time is over?  What says that?
[06:06] <marginoferror> Anyone know what compiz.real does and why it might crash in Gutsy?
[06:06] <Flannel> marginoferror: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support, thanks
[06:06] <r00tintheb0x> okay Eleaf so you upgraded i take it?
[06:06] <Eleaf> yes, from dapper.
[06:06] <Flannel> Eleaf: Feisty straight from Dapper?
[06:06] <marginoferror> Flannel: kk, I didn't know about that
[06:06] <Eleaf> trackpad tapping is horrible
[06:06] <Eleaf> yeah Flannel
[06:07] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, have you tried "Option "MaxTapTime" "0"" in xorg.conf?
[06:07] <Eleaf> I did r00tintheb0x
[06:07] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, can you not disable it in CMOS?
[06:07] <Eleaf> That works for a few hours, but then tapping suddenly comes back
[06:07] <jernster> is it possible to move a thunderbird profile from windows over to linux?
[06:07] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, there is no CMOS or BIOS on apples.
[06:07] <qweqweqwe> so can someone tell me how to get remove 3D Desktop Effects?
[06:07] <Flannel> Eleaf: That's not recommended, by the way.  Could (concievably) be part of your problem.  Which kernel are you running currently?
[06:07] <r00tintheb0x> im sorry Eleaf repeat, i cleared the screen
[06:07] <qweqweqwe> Eleaf: of course there is
[06:07] <r00tintheb0x> ooooh Eleaf its an apple.
[06:07] <r00tintheb0x> well, there actually is.
[06:07] <Nutubuntu> CheeseGardener, there's no One True Way to partition. I'd keep /home separate from everything else, and I ended up making separate / and /boot. If I remember correctly -- not sure -- the 2X RAM rule of thumb for swap is for coredumps and (very hazy here) the kernel doesn't do 'em? That doesn't sound right to me ... someone know?
[06:07] <r00tintheb0x> everything has a cmos.
[06:07] <r00tintheb0x> pretty much,.
[06:07] <Eleaf> Flannel, ethanlofton 2.6.20-16-powerpc #3
[06:08] <qweqweqwe> and bios
[06:08] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, paste me your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to http://pastebin.ca please.
[06:08] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, yes I did add those lines, and it works untill the computer sleeps.
[06:08] <Eleaf> I added a bunch of other settings as well since tap time 0 didn't work right away.
[06:08] <marginoferror> CheeseGardener: If you have 3GB of RAM I can't imagine why you would ever need swap space at all
[06:08] <Flannel> Eleaf: Ah, right.  You lucked out with the PPC, no generic transition.
[06:08] <Eleaf> marginoferror, that's not a lot.
[06:09] <marginoferror> Eleaf: 3GB isn't?  Maybe I'm behind the times
[06:09] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Apple_MacBook#How_to_make_Synaptics_Touchpad_survive_suspend.2Fresume
[06:09] <Eleaf> depends.
[06:09] <marginoferror> CheeseGardener: Even so, I recommend skipping the swap partition altogether unless you have a specific reason you need one
[06:09] <r00tintheb0x> BAM problem solved.
[06:09] <marginoferror> CheeseGardener: If you ever DO run out of memory, you can always make a swap file instead.  They are a bit slower, but if you rarely use them then that's not an issue
[06:10] <Flannel> marginoferror: If you plan on hibernating, you need swap >= RAM
[06:10] <CheeseGardener> Alright, I'll take that into mind.
[06:10] <jhon> Flannel : says connect to host x.x.x.x. port 22 conection timed out
[06:10] <marginoferror> Flannel: ???  Hibernation uses swap to store contents of RAM?  What happens to memory that's already in swap?
[06:10] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, Flannel : here is my xorg.conf, http://pastebin.ca/648315
[06:10] <CheeseGardener> what about the space needed for / and /home?  how much of the 250 gigs should I put into each?????
[06:10] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, did you look @ that link i just posted?
[06:10] <Eleaf> man trackpad tapping is sooo bad!  I can barely even use my computer...
[06:11] <Eleaf> yes r00tintheb0x
[06:11] <marginoferror> CheeseGardener: Well, honestly, I usually use one big partition nowadays
[06:11] <r00tintheb0x> Have you done as suggested?
[06:11] <jhon> Flannel : says connect to host x.x.x.x. port 22 conection timed out
[06:11] <Flannel> CheeseGardener: home is your leftover space (since it's the place all your personal stuffs goes).  / can be... uh, 30GB will be more than enough.  10GB is probably more too.
[06:11] <Eleaf> where is it saying 'appletouch'?
[06:11] <marginoferror> CheeseGardener: But you won't need much space in /.  Put ten or twenty gigs there and you'll have plenty for almost any case.
[06:11] <Eleaf> That code makes no sense to me r00tintheb0x
[06:11] <Eleaf> there is no 'appletouch'
[06:11] <evri2> do you know how can i stop GPU throllting?(I want my GPU work at full speed)
[06:12] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, and the device is /dev/psaux
[06:12] <marginoferror> CheeseGardener: You will never fill a drive that big with applications - it's media or other data that takes up the space, and that goes in /home
[06:12] <Eleaf> not a /input device r00tintheb0x
[06:12] <Nutubuntu> CheeseGardener, I gave 120MB to /boot and 15GB to / ... they both look like a lot right now, not much stuff there ... and gave /home the rest.
[06:12] <Flannel> marginoferror: yes, hibernation writes RAM to the harddrive, in the swap space.
[06:12] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, "sudo echo " SUBSYSTEM=="input",KERNEL=="event*",SYSFS{name}=="appletouch",SYMLINK+="input/appletouchpad"" >> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-appletouch.rules
[06:12] <Flannel> jhon: Are you getting connection noise in your sshd logs?
[06:12] <r00tintheb0x> DO IT!
[06:12] <r00tintheb0x> DO IT!
[06:12] <the_giver> wait.. how do i get to the live cd
[06:12] <the_giver> if i have the install cd.. how do i "envoke" the live cd part
[06:12] <marginoferror> Flannel: I didn't know that.  But if the swap is already being used for something - say you don't have much RAM - then will that give an error and refuse to hibernate?
[06:13] <Flannel> the_giver: Do you have the desktop or alternate CD?
[06:13] <jhon> Flannel : dont know what are you talking about
[06:13] <the_giver> desktop
[06:13] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, what is 'appletouch'?
[06:13] <jpdp> This is related to something I asked the other day, but: Does anyone know how well/poorly sdparm works for setting idle spindown times on RAID arrays?  I'm trying to build an energy efficient file server, and keeping a large array spinning while not in use seems to be a waste.
[06:13] <Eleaf> there is no such device
[06:13] <bruenig> marginoferror, refuse to hibernate, not likely, crazy failure is more like it
[06:13] <the_giver> ? so
[06:13] <Flannel> the_giver: then boot to it, choose the first option at the boot menu (or just wait) and that'll give you a live environment
[06:13] <jhon> I can have VNC and FTP and HTTP , Mail but not SSH
[06:13] <Eleaf> and there is no input/appletouchpad r00tintheb0x
[06:13] <Eleaf> it's /dev/psaux
[06:13] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, i have no clue... im sure google does thouhg. I havent owned an apple since the early 90's
[06:13] <Flannel> jhon: Er... then how do you expect to connect with ssh?
[06:13] <Eleaf> not /dev/appletouch , or /dev/input
[06:13] <marginoferror> bruenig: Hmm.....  That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
[06:13] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, it doesn't matter that it's an apple.  It's ubuntu!
[06:13] <bruenig> marginoferror, just know what you are doing and you are fine
[06:13] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, "sudo lsmod |grep touch"
[06:14] <Eleaf> I'm having the same problem as many other touchpad synaptics users.
[06:14] <r00tintheb0x> Okay eleaf, thats why my DELL does not tap.
[06:14] <cfedde> what's your favorite SNMP console on ubuntu?
[06:14] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[06:14] <jhon> What I try to say is, I CAN connect with HTTP, FTP, MAIL, VNC but SSH dont work
[06:14] <Eleaf> Ubuntu disables shared memory, which disallows trackpad disabling
[06:14] <twb> r00tintheb0x: ugh, it apparently has mawk but not awk
[06:14] <cables> I'm having trouble getting an mencoder command right, I'd like to convert mjpeg to x264 (with defaults) and mp3lame at 96kbps abr... can anyone give me the command for that?
[06:14] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, synaptics?
[06:14] <Flannel> jhon: right.  and I'm asking you to check your sshd logs
[06:14] <r00tintheb0x> You figure it out Eleaf.
[06:14] <r00tintheb0x> Yes Eleaf
[06:14] <marginoferror> bruenig: What happens to the guy who has 1 GB of swap for his 512 megs of ram, then upgrades to 2 GB of ram?  There must be a better way to hibernate.
[06:14] <r00tintheb0x> dang twb
[06:14] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, mine usually never taps either, it was added in fesity automatically.
[06:14] <Eleaf> I just want to disable it r00tintheb0x !
[06:14] <emeriste> What does it mean when a channel has two ##
[06:14] <Eleaf> Flannel, did you check the xorg.conf?
[06:14] <twb> r00tintheb0x: what annoys me is that Ubuntu *ships* with these bugs
[06:15] <Flannel> Eleaf: I know nothing of X
[06:15] <Eleaf> emeriste, it's an information channel, doesn't really matter.
[06:15] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, im telling you how to fix it and you're arguing with me. The problem lies in your hardware...
[06:15] <r00tintheb0x> twb, i know, i've found a couple too.
[06:15] <Eleaf> emeriste, just kinda helps group channels that aren't a project name with a ##.
[06:15] <r00tintheb0x> But it IS free...
[06:15] <Eleaf> Flannel, I gave you a link
[06:15] <Justi1> does anyone know of any ubuntu installations that can be done from floppy disk? I tried one in the online docs, but it uses a debian installer.
[06:15] <bruenig> marginoferror, you can make it write the file to a non swap partition if you want, but I think that requires some manually cleaning
[06:15] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, it doesn't lie in my hardware, considering it worked fine in dapper.
[06:15] <Flannel> Eleaf: right, I saw it.  I don't know anything with respect to X.
[06:15] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, dapper to feisty is a software change.
[06:15] <jhon> where i can find that logs ?
[06:15] <Eleaf> Flannel, it's synaptics
[06:15] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, do you not understand that MACs have a problem coming back from suspend?
[06:16] <Eleaf> that's rediculous r00tintheb0x
[06:16] <Flannel> Eleaf: right, I have no GUI.  Thus no idea how X breaks and how to fix.
[06:16] <Eleaf> my touchpad keeps working after suspend r00tintheb0x
[06:16] <r00tintheb0x> it says it right there in the gentoo wiki. and i guarantee that if i googled it i'd find it all over the internet.
[06:16] <Eleaf> it always has, without tapping r00tintheb0x
[06:16] <Eleaf> this is only on feisty.
[06:16] <r00tintheb0x> So only the tapping resumes?
[06:16] <marginoferror> bruenig: Hmm, I wonder if that can be safely done automatically in most cases
[06:16] <Eleaf> gentoo is not ubuntu
[06:16] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, yes.
[06:16] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, XORG is XORG
[06:16] <Ashfire908> does gimp support exif?
[06:16] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, whats the link to your xorg.conf again?
[06:17] <patbam> hi, is it possible to restart a bittorrent download with gnome-bittorrent?
[06:17] <bruenig> marginoferror, write a daemon to do it, that would probably be good enough
[06:17] <cafuego> r00tintheb0x: Which Macs? My iBook comes back just fine.
[06:17] <Flannel> patbam: yep, just double click the torrent again
[06:17] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, http://pastebin.ca/648315
[06:17] <r00tintheb0x> not sure patbam, check out deluge-torrent though.
[06:17] <twb> r00tintheb0x: it's because Ubuntu releases on-time instead of when-it's-ready
[06:17] <Ashfire908> !gimp
[06:17] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[06:17] <Eleaf> cafuego, my ibook has tapping enabled on the synaptics touchpad, very annoying
[06:17] <wingot> Hey
[06:17] <Flannel> jhon: first make sure sshd is listening, `ps aux | grep sshd`
[06:17] <cafuego> Eleaf: Oh, I 8want* tapping ;-)
[06:17] <r00tintheb0x> yep twb, we sacrifice stability and quality for shiny newness
[06:17] <Eleaf> cafuego, I was able to get the tapping to disable by adding the tapdelay to 0 and enable some other options in xorg.conf, but tapping returns after suspend I believe.
[06:18] <wingot> I'm going to give Ubuntu a try (have been using Arch, also used suse, debian, lfs, and fedora core over time).
[06:18] <Eleaf> cafuego, the tapping is sooo horrible, when I'm typing, it always shoots the cursor back to the beginning and I type over my message.
[06:18] <twb> r00tintheb0x: it's the Stanford method all over again
[06:18] <marginoferror> bruenig: You don't think it could simply be done if necessary before every hibernation?
[06:18] <james296> can anyone tell me why every OTHER time I click on the Gnome start menu, it hides underneath anything?
[06:18] <wingot> Anything I should know before installing?
[06:18] <james296> its really aggravating...
[06:18] <r00tintheb0x> yup yup twb
[06:18] <Eleaf> cafuego, and if I touch the trackpad as softly and slowly as possible, it clicks, very annoying.
[06:18] <cafuego> Eleaf: well, you'r not supposed to tap *whilst* typing, of course.
[06:18] <chuy> wingot, yes, good luck ;)
[06:18] <Eleaf> cafuego, I need to find out how to disable it.
[06:18] <james296> and yes, unfortunately, Im back...
[06:18] <bruenig> marginoferror, it doesn't harm anything, it just starts to fill up the disk after a while
[06:19] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[06:19] <co> ss
[06:19] <Eleaf> cafuego, if the thumb gets anywhere near it, it taps.  It's a well known problem, and the tappad is normally disabled in other OS's
[06:19] <cafuego> Eleaf: If the driver doesn't come back from suspend in the requered state, I'd say it's a diver bug.
[06:19] <Eleaf> (while typing)
[06:19] <r00tintheb0x> firstly Eleaf you've got WAY too much crap in there.
[06:19] <jhon> flannel : root   5474  0.0  0.1  4768 1056 ?    Ss   15:43   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[06:19] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, that was a suggestion from another, after the tapdelay alone didn't work.
[06:19] <r00tintheb0x> right, i'll clean it up and repaste it.
[06:19] <jhon> jhon  17734  0.0  0.0  2900 808  pts/0   R+  23:18   0:00  grep sshd
[06:19] <casperzshado> what is the bandwith scheduler and how do i enable it?
[06:19] <r00tintheb0x> hold up Eleaf
[06:19] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, others have had success with that, just tapdelay to 0 doesn't work.
[06:20] <jhon> flannel : root   5474  0.0  0.1  4768 1056 ?    Ss   15:43   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[06:20] <jhon> jhon  17734  0.0  0.0  2900 808  pts/0   R+  23:18   0:00  grep sshd
[06:20] <r00tintheb0x> right Eleaf
[06:20] <Flannel> jhon: alright, I suppose we determined that when you said you could connect locally.  And you're sure you've forwarded port 22?
[06:20] <Flannel> jhon: and you really don't need to repeat everything if I don't reply within 10 seconds
[06:20] <tofaffy> I'm gonna donwload KDE so I can give it a try...how can I set gnome menu up not to show the kde apps?
[06:20] <jhon> sorry
[06:20] <jhon> I CAN connect in port 22 locally, in a terminal and works
[06:20] <bruenig> tofaffy, you can't
[06:20] <Flannel> jhon: Right, so it sounds like a router issue
[06:20] <twb> jhon: hosts.allow/deny?
[06:20] <Flannel> bruenig: yes you can
[06:20] <jhon> but in the same machine, not in another linux and less remotely from home
[06:21] <jhon> Router port 22 its open
[06:21] <Nutubuntu> tofaffy, you might want to look at the psychocatsnet pages on Gnome and KDE ... not a direct answer but helpful
[06:21] <james296> well?
[06:21] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, check this thread out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[06:21] <bruenig> Flannel, how?
[06:21] <twb> jhon: e.g. I have in my /etc/hosts.allow the line sshd    : 203.7.155.0/24
[06:21] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, this one also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[06:21] <Flannel> bruenig, tofaffy: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/18/removing-kde-icons-in-gnome-remove-gnome-icons-in-kde/
[06:21] <r00tintheb0x> oops
[06:21] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, this one also: http://www.google.com/search?q=disable+tap+xorg.conf+apple&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[06:22] <Ashfire908> !exif | Ashfire908
[06:22] <Bender> hi do u have to set up cable internet with Linux?
[06:22] <mrtubby> does anyone know if there is an ATI Rage 128 driver available for ubuntu?
[06:22] <Flannel> I suggest the manual method, as the script (at the end) doesn't properly back up your menu (although it does clean them)
[06:22] <Ashfire908> !exif
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exif - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <bruenig> Flannel, I was actually just about to say he could script it so kde stuff was moved to .bak and have it run at startup and the other way around
[06:22] <Ashfire908> !ati | mrtubby
[06:22] <ubotu> mrtubby: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <tofaffy> thanks Nubuntu and Flannel
[06:22] <Traeumt> hi all
[06:22] <Bender> yo
[06:22] <Flannel> bruenig: That just removes them from each other, no scripting per startup
[06:23] <Traeumt> Does ubuntu has a bult-in firewall ?
[06:23] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, that's the original thread I looked at.
[06:23] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, none of those suggestions seem to keep working
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> !firewall | Traeumt
[06:23] <ubotu> Traeumt: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:23] <bruenig> Flannel, what arguments does showonlyin take?
[06:23] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, you've got me then man.
[06:23] <Flannel> bruenig: What?
[06:23] <Traeumt> thanks
[06:23] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, tapping still isn't disabled
[06:23] <bruenig> Flannel, like how does it know which desktop you are in
[06:23] <Eleaf> I just launched another X server, and it is still not working at all.
[06:24] <Eleaf> So I guess tapping has never been disabled yet on feisty..
[06:24] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, i dont know the answer.
[06:24] <Eleaf> I've tried all those different settings
[06:24] <Eleaf> (or maybe I just have to restart every time)
[06:24] <r00tintheb0x> You're going to have to test and tune.
[06:24] <Eleaf> but that's a pretty horrific ubuntu bug..
[06:24] <Eleaf> One of the worst in the world.
[06:24] <CUBeR64> hi, does anyone know if the Creative Live! Cam Video Chat works under Ubuntu?
[06:24] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, i'd scold them.
[06:24] <r00tintheb0x> hehe
[06:24] <Flannel> bruenig: No idea, a version string somewhere, I imagine.  I also suggest doing it by hand.  When I did it with a friends lappy, it didn't properly do the backups.  Although successfully cleaned.
[06:24] <Eleaf> just tapped again and scrolled everywhere, what a horrible feature.
[06:24] <Eleaf> OMG
[06:25] <Eleaf> cafuego, help me disable it!!!
[06:25] <Bender> CUBeR6 = probably not
[06:25] <r00tintheb0x> Eleaf, anything in the logs?
[06:25] <Eleaf> what logs?
[06:25] <CUBeR64> Bender: k
[06:25] <Bender> CUBeR6 = there is other video chat programs available
[06:25] <jhon> Flannel : Edit my hosts.allow and add the line sshd : x.x.x.x/24
[06:26] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, here's what somebody said on the forums:  "That's it. It has worked well for me, except that sometimes the computer seems to need to "re-load" the file, and tapping turns on until the next time I restart the computer. Once tapping is on, that doesn't take long"
[06:26] <jhon> and now ?
[06:26] <casperzshado> waht is tapping?
[06:26] <Eleaf> r00tintheb0x, theirs does the same thing, tapping will sometimes enable and you have to restart to get it to disable again
[06:26] <Eleaf> just randomly
[06:26] <Flannel> jhon: You don't need to edit host.allow, whomever recommended was wrong
[06:26] <CUBeR64> Bender: I found this web page, you think it would work? http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[06:26] <cafuego> Eleaf: broken driver, file bug!
[06:26] <teratoma> what is the new name for inittab ?
[06:27] <CUBeR64> Bender: I found it on the Creative open source website, opensource.creative.com
[06:27] <bruenig> Flannel, probably works off of the name of the session you ran as specified in the .desktop file in /etc/X11, don't know how well it would work if you don't use that
[06:27] <jhon> ok, file restored, what i have to do ?
[06:27] <Eleaf> cafuego, too old of hardware?
[06:27] <Eleaf> it's working fine for you
[06:27] <Eleaf> cafuego, the bug has been reported many times
[06:27] <Ashfire908> what's a image editor that supports exif?
[06:27] <Flannel> jhon: nothing.  Check your router settings.  I imagine that's the problem.
[06:27] <Eleaf> Ashfire908, gimp..?
[06:28] <Flannel> jhon: unless you've edited your sshd configuration, it works out of the box.  If you have edited it, you might have bound it to localhost.
[06:28] <Ashfire908> Eleaf, nope, can't find it so far
[06:28] <julian_> are there any other linux tablet users around? the lack of a good onscreen keyboard is pointing me towards the direction of writing one, but I want to make sure theres no other keyboards before I start doing it
[06:28] <james296> I would really like a response
[06:28] <Eleaf> Ashfire908, you won't be able to find it, it's just there..
[06:28] <Eleaf> hmm
[06:28] <james296> I need help with the gnome main menu
[06:29] <jhon> I edit hosts.allow and restore, nothing change inside, the router have the same configuration to VNC for example open the port 5900 (22 to ssh)
[06:29] <bruenig> james296, um right click and then press alt
[06:29] <bullgard4> The name 'freenode' does not appear in my ~/.irssi/conf file although my Irssi functions all right. So what name is used to identify irc.freenode.net in an IRCnet?
[06:29] <Flannel> julian_: http://tuxmobil.org/tablet_unix.html scroll down, near the bottom is a bunch of input methods, including onscreen keyboards.  (Im sure that's not exhaustive)
[06:30] <the_giver> OKAY
[06:30] <the_giver> why wouldnt anything work ont he damn live cd
[06:30] <the_giver> how do i just ping damn google
[06:30] <james296> HUH???
[06:30] <the_giver> ON THE DAMN LIVE CD?/
[06:30] <james296> that didnt do anything
[06:30] <the_giver> i am  trying to test stuff on the ubuntu live cd (desktop)
[06:30] <the_giver> but it doenst work
[06:30] <jhon> in the router open the port 22 forwarding to IP of the server
[06:30] <bruenig> james296, um try alt and then right click this time
[06:31] <james296> didnt do anything
[06:31] <bullgard4> the_giver: Please use a more family-friendly language.
[06:31] <julian_> Flannel, thanks.  I've seen that a few times, the list is kind of old though.  I just wanted to know if theres something I hadn't seen before I get started
[06:31] <r00tintheb0x> WORD!
[06:31] <Flannel> jhon: pastebin your /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:31] <bruenig> james296, I don't know, maybe this would go better if you actually asked your question, but if you insist on not doing that, I say trying escape
[06:31] <tofaffy> the_giver, to ping a webbie you should just be able to open terminal and type "ping http://www.google.com"
[06:31] <tofaffy> if thats what you are talking about
[06:31] <james296> I already asked my question
[06:31] <the_giver> yes i know that
[06:31] <the_giver> but it doesnt work
[06:31] <Flannel> julian_: I'd check the forums (ubuntuforums.org), I've seen a few tablet threads
[06:31] <tofaffy> umm
[06:32] <julian_> okay.  thanks Flannel
[06:32] <tofaffy> Does the pc you are tryign to ping on have net?
[06:32] <james296> I said the gnome main menu always displays behind maximized windows
[06:32] <james296> why is that
[06:32] <james296> and how can I solve it
[06:32] <tofaffy> any more specific things you can tell us other than "it doesn't work"
[06:32] <fabian_> hello. im having problems with my ubuntu on vmware on my windows box. I can't get the internet connection to work.
[06:32] <bruenig> !repeat | james296
[06:32] <ubotu> james296: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:33] <james296> bruenig, you thought I didnt ask a question and thats why I repeatd it...
[06:33] <Ashfire908> !vmware | fabian_
[06:33] <ubotu> fabian_: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:33] <james296> repeated*
[06:33] <bruenig> !ot | james296
[06:33] <ubotu> james296: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:33] <jhon> I cant, im not in the server now, im enterin with VNC
[06:33] <james296> what was that for
[06:33] <jhon> what do you want to see and I tell you
[06:33] <Ashfire908> fabian_, i don't think that was what you wanted, was it? lol sorry
[06:33] <fabian_> nope. i already installed it and everything.
[06:34] <fabian_> i just can't get a internet connection
[06:34] <emeriste> What do you type to go to another channel ?
[06:34] <Nutubuntu> emeriste, you type /join #<the chan>
[06:34] <emeriste> Okay thanks.
[06:34] <kkathman> whats the best torrent program for gnome (ktorrent really is very unstable) ??
[06:34] <Bender> CUBeR64 you there
[06:34] <bulmer> fabian_: what ip address has been assigned to those vmnet hosting linux?
[06:35] <bruenig> !best | Bender
[06:35] <ubotu> Bender: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> kkathman, kTorrent is unstable?
[06:35] <CUBeR64> Bender: i'm here
[06:35] <kkathman> yes
[06:35] <emeriste> Is there something to type that will tell you how many people are in the channel?
[06:35] <kkathman> Music_Shuffle:  over the last few days - its stopped with a sig 11 probably a dozen times
[06:35] <jhon> UsePAM yes   GatewayPorts no, AllowTcpForwardin yes, AllowUsers jhon
[06:35] <Bender> u could use skype
[06:35] <fabian_> i gave it a static ip of 192.168.0.43.
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> kkathman, interesting.  First time I've heard that in a while.  I suggest rTorrent, uTorrent with WINE, or perhaps Azureus.
[06:35] <fabian_> i gave it already in the network configs in ubuntu
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> Or Deluge, but I've never tried it myself
[06:36] <kkathman> Music_Shuffle:  ok thanks - havent tried azureus in a while - its java based I think
[06:36] <bulmer> fabian_: on windoz side, what shows when you  ipconfig /all
[06:36] <bruenig> deluge is basically native utorrent
[06:36] <Tethylis> Can someone please help me figure out how to enable wpa in network manager?
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> kkathman, I suggested it last kinda for a reason.  =/
[06:36] <emeriste> I'm using deluge and I like it quite a bit.
[06:36] <kkathman> Music_Shuffle:  hehe ok
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[06:37] <emeriste> I've never used any other torrent client though so I can't compare it to anything.
[06:37] <kkathman> dont know rtorrent - will look that one up
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> emeriste, its just listed as "deluge" in apt, right?
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> kkathman, rTorrent is console-based.
[06:37] <emeriste> Yes.
[06:37] <mrtubby> Sorry to be a bother and i know i asked about this once but the responce was "not ati" and didn't tell me much, I have found a man page for r128 a driver for an ATI rage 128 graphics card, but it isn't available to me via apt-get is this completely not supported or is there another method i could use to install it
[06:37] <fabian_> my LAN ip as 192.168.0.47.
[06:37] <kkathman> ahh ok
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> emeriste, time to try :)
[06:37] <fabian_> which one do u want from ipconfig /all
[06:37] <bruenig> Music_Shuffle, the development schedule for deluge is very fast paced, unless that is 0.5.3, you will be missing rss and some other stuff that imo brought it up to compatible with utorrent
[06:37] <bulmer> fabian_: you must respond with a nick as prefixed or else it will be missed
[06:38] <bruenig> comparable*
[06:38] <fabian_> how do i respond with a nick?
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> bruenig, so...what's your suggestion for getting it?
[06:38] <bruenig> Music_Shuffle, compile of course
[06:38] <bulmer> fabian_: you noticed how we put your nick on first?
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> fabian_, type the first few letters and then hit the TAB key.
[06:38] <Bender> CUBeR64: go to this site it list allot http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=306119
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> bruenig, Ugh.  Off to try, thanks.
[06:39] <Traeumt> Hi again guys i cant figure this firewall issue
[06:39] <tofaffy> whats the problem TraceCobur
[06:39] <tofaffy> er Traeumt
[06:39] <emeriste> One thing I didn't immediately realize with deluge is that you can click on the 'Files' tab, highlight specific files, right click on them, and select not to download them.
[06:39] <fabian_> bulmer, ok. i got that. anyways. which ipconfig do u want? the lan, vmnet1,vmnet8
[06:39] <chuy> hi: I got this 33 MHz, 8MB Ram Macintosh LC 580, is it good for running an http+php+mysql/ftp/ssh server or is it very old for my purposes?
[06:39] <jhon> Flannel ?? :(
[06:39] <emeriste> That is nice when you are getting a .tar file because often there are files in there that you don't really want or need.
[06:39] <Traeumt> Azureus is telling that i have a firewall problem
[06:39] <Bender> :(
[06:39] <Nutubuntu> chuy, very old for your purpose
[06:39] <tofaffy> Well
[06:40] <[11touche] > did someone get amsn-remote to connect ???
[06:40] <Traeumt> but i made all the settings in my router page
[06:40] <bulmer> fabian_: does any of the vmnet matches what you set for the ubuntu?
[06:40] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Please use Gnome Search Tool to find /var/log/suspend2ram.log. How does it call the 'Type' of this file in English? 'application protocol'?
[06:40] <Jack_Sparrow> too old
[06:40] <tofaffy> Do you have a software firewall installed (firestarter etc)
[06:40] <tofaffy> also, are you behind a router?
[06:40] <bruenig> Music_Shuffle, it is a python compile, so remember to use the setup.py script
[06:40] <Traeumt> yeah disabled it
[06:40] <bruenig> Music_Shuffle, instead of a configure script
[06:40] <chuy> Nutubuntu oh yeah?
[06:40] <Music_Shuffle> bruenig, kk
[06:40] <Traeumt> router is fixed
[06:40] <fabian_> vmnet1, i set it to the same settings for static
[06:40] <CUBeR64> Bender: that's for a webcam application, i was asking for compatibility based on a driver
[06:40] <fabian_> to ubuntu
[06:40] <tofaffy> Hrm...
[06:40] <Nutubuntu> chuy, yeah
[06:40] <Traeumt> i redirected the azureus ports
[06:40] <tofaffy> Not sure then
[06:40] <wastr1> timely
[06:40] <wastr1> I was interested in webcams too
[06:40] <shellhack> hello everybody
[06:40] <tofaffy> Have you got firestarter installed?
[06:40] <wastr1> anyone have any good experience/howtos on the matter?
[06:40] <Bender> yo
[06:40] <Traeumt> yes i got it
[06:40] <shellhack> I have a problem
[06:41] <shellhack> with a .rar file
[06:41] <Bender> what is it
[06:41] <Nutubuntu> !enter | shellhack
[06:41] <ubotu> shellhack: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:41] <fabian_> bulmer, yes. vmnet1 matches
[06:41] <tofaffy> sudo firestarter and then set the policy...turn the firewall back on and set th epolicy, see if it helps
[06:41] <wastr1> can anyone point me to  any good resources on webcams and linux?
[06:41] <bulmer> fabian_: now can you ping from windoz the address of vmnet1 ?
[06:41] <NETWizz> !enter enter
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter enter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <M4Ri_00_SH> exit
[06:41] <NETWizz> Eenter
[06:41] <M4Ri_00_SH> :)
[06:41] <tofaffy> wastr1, are you trying to stream images onto the net from a cam? If so, thats somethign I can help with.
[06:41] <NETWizz> !enter
[06:41] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:42] <shellhack> yesterday I did download a pink panther episode
[06:42] <NETWizz> !enter | ubotu
[06:42] <ubotu> ubotu: please see above
[06:42] <Traeumt> Toffafy is there way to uninstall firestarter ?
[06:42] <tofaffy> Traeumt, sudo apt-get remove firestarter
[06:42] <shellhack> but it was in .rar format
[06:42] <jhon> Flannel ?? :(
[06:42] <shellhack> I saw the file without problem
[06:42] <bruenig> !enter | shellhack
[06:42] <ubotu> shellhack: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Traeumt: You need to understand that firestarter is NOT a firewall.. it is an iptable manager.. Removing firestarter does not remove your firewall capabilities
[06:43] <Traeumt> jack i did ipstales -f too
[06:43] <Traeumt> nothng changed
[06:43] <wastr1> tofaffy: I'm more interested in 2 webcams connected via application
[06:43] <Traeumt> iptables*
[06:43] <fabian_> bulmer, nope. can't ping my router or anything on my window side
[06:43] <wastr1> tofaffy: but that would work, if I could get sound
[06:44] <cmlalex> Could someone please help me get sound going on my pc?
[06:44] <shellhack> but today when I open the file roller, it says that I need a password for to see the .rar file
[06:44] <wastr1> I don't own a webcam, but I want to put some money into one
[06:44] <bruenig> !piracy | shellhack
[06:44] <ubotu> shellhack: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[06:44] <tofaffy> wastr1, to get sound you can use an icecast server which I cannot help you with. The sound is serperate from the cam of crouse
[06:44] <Bender> hi, im about to get cable and I am wondering how to set it up under linux, my brother has cable and i put in linux mint and didnt have to do anything. did the same thing with kubuntu at my friends house
[06:44] <bulmer> fabian_: then you have to look at your vmware config and make sure they are okay
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Traeumt: Just for fun.. go to grc.com and run the shields up test to see if ports are really open..
[06:44] <emeriste> You probably don't need to remove firestarter. It might be easier to configure your firewall with firestarter installed.
[06:44] <Tethylis> Can someone please help me enable wpa in network manager?
[06:44] <tofaffy> wastr1, sudo apt-get install camserv and then to read moreabout camserv use man camserv
[06:44] <wastr1> ok let me try it
[06:45] <bruenig> Bender, if it is dhcp, then it won't matter
[06:45] <Traeumt> okey jack
[06:45] <shellhack> I never mentioned the word piracy
[06:45] <tofaffy> wastr1, also, you'll have to open the ports after you set them.
[06:45] <shellhack> I saw the file yesterday
[06:45] <wastr1> can I stream this to a server?
[06:45] <NETWizz> !ubotu
[06:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:45] <cmlalex> Could someone please help me get sound going on my pc?
[06:45] <fabian_> bulmer, i've been messing with the vmware network for the past hour. not sure how to fix it their thought
[06:45] <wastr1> instead of off my desktop
[06:45] <shellhack> with vlc, if you want I can show you my history file
[06:45] <emeriste> You need to go to firestarter and set your "inbound rules" for use with a bittorrent.
[06:45] <bruenig> shellhack, that is clearly what is happening, password protected rar files for pink pather, looks like you need to find a better site, we can't help you with cracking a rar password
[06:45] <shellhack> I not using the estupid trick of the stupid
[06:45] <shellhack> boy
[06:46] <KI4IKL> wastr1, you stream it through a port on your ip. I fyou wanted peopel to see it it'd be <YOUR IP HERE>:port
[06:46] <bruenig> can someone kick this idiot
[06:46] <shellhack> if I want to hack the file I do it
[06:46] <Bender> hi, im about to get cable and I am wondering how to set it up under linux, my brother has cable and i put in linux mint and didnt have to do anything. did the same thing with kubuntu at my friends house
[06:46] <bulmer> fabian_: whats is the ip of your windoz and ubuntu again?  also whats set on vmware bridge? nat? host-only?
[06:46] <NETWizz> !ubuntu es
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <NETWizz> !spanish
[06:46] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:46] <j85wilson> mad-sibyl: prophesy
[06:46] <mad-sibyl> wastr1 sudo apt get cable and ubuntu again also you trying to uninstall firestarter
[06:46] <james296> is it possible to make gnome-main-menu to stay on top of windows?
[06:46] <KI4IKL> wastr1, thouhg that woudln't refresh. If you want it on a webpage I have a javascript for you that will refresh it every so often to grab the latest image from the cam.
[06:46] <shellhack> the problem is that the others .rar files can generate problems
[06:46] <Denetsu> hi, can anyone helpme?, i cant acces to ubuntu, the root account and my account are blocked :S
[06:47] <bruenig> james296, are you using a window manager other than metacity?
[06:47] <cmlalex> Could someone please help me get sound going on my pc?
[06:47] <Ashfire908> anyone know a tool for EXIF data that has a GUI?
[06:47] <shellhack> if you want I can give you the page where I download the episodes
[06:47] <bruenig> !stop | shellhack
[06:47] <ubotu> shellhack: NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[06:47] <shellhack> and you will see that the file dont have password
[06:47] <shellhack> the problem is in my computer
[06:47] <bruenig> shellhack, take it to have it serviced
[06:48] <james296> yes Im using Compiz Fusion
[06:48] <shellhack> ok
[06:48] <shellhack> look the link
[06:48] <bruenig> james296, that is where your problem very likely lies, I would launch with metacity and see if you have the same issue
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Denetsu: Have you used sudo or gksudo very much?
[06:48] <NETWizz> !timezone
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timezone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <cmlalex> Could someone please help me get sound going on my pc?
[06:48] <shellhack> http://vagos.es/showthread.php?t=134334&page=4
[06:48] <shellhack> this is the link
[06:48] <fabian_> bulmer, windows: 192.168.0.47 linux: 192.168.0.43
[06:48] <bruenig> !ops | shellhack
[06:48] <ubotu> shellhack: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:48] <shellhack> where I downloaded the files
[06:48] <james296> ok, apparently thats the problem, then what could be causing it...
[06:48] <bulmer> fabian_: whats is the ip of your windoz and ubuntu again?  also whats set on vmware bridge? nat? host-only?
[06:48] <totalnewbie> what's good for proxy?
[06:48] <shellhack> if you wanna see
[06:49] <shellhack> Im not lying
[06:49] <bruenig> james296, compiz fusion is has not yet had a stable release, so.....
[06:49] <nedw> i finished writing my first useful bash script just a moment ago :)
[06:49] <cmlalex> is there any actual help going on in here?
[06:49] <Ashfire908> shellhack, no one wants to see.
[06:49] <Music_Shuffle> cmlalex, yeah.
[06:49] <Music_Shuffle> Ask away.
[06:49] <james296> I know but its possible it could be something thats enabled?
[06:49] <wastr1> KI4IKL: what webcam do you use?
[06:49] <Denetsu> hi?
[06:49] <KI4IKL> umm
[06:49] <KI4IKL> any webcam you have
[06:49] <bruenig> james296, maybe #ubuntu-effects
[06:49] <cmlalex> Ive been trying to get sound for a week to no avail
[06:49] <Music_Shuffle> Hi Denetsu :)
[06:50] <james296> Im gonna check out the compiz fusion chat
[06:50] <cmlalex> Could someone please help me get sound going on my pc?
[06:50] <Denetsu> Hi
[06:50] <Denetsu> ^^
[06:50] <KI4IKL> plug it in, then edit the file to yoru taste
[06:50] <Traeumt> jack it seem closed :(
[06:50] <Denetsu> i cant enter to mi Ubuntu, my account is blocked by the administrator o.O
[06:50] <Traeumt> but actually its not is there another application that close ports ?
[06:50] <bulmer> Traeumt:  iptables -X; iptables -F
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> cmlalex: Better questions make for better answers.. Try saying what make and model of hardware sound card you have and what you have tried so far.
[06:50] <Denetsu> and the root account... i cant acces with that neither
[06:50] <emeriste> If we keep our computer's running will we always get 'timed out' of here?
[06:51] <Flannel> emeriste: nope
[06:51] <emeriste> Is it considered bad form to remain logged in?
[06:51] <Traeumt> bulmer: its still closed
[06:51] <Denetsu> T_T
[06:51] <bulmer> Traeumt: what is closed? how do you test if its closed?
[06:51] <Music_Shuffle> emeriste, most of the people in here are idle at any given time.
[06:52] <Nutubuntu> whenever possible :)
[06:52] <emeriste> I didn't want to 'take up room' while I go idle so that other's cant get in or some thing like that.
[06:52] <Traeumt> jack told me to test it via grc.com
[06:52] <IndyLucian> i have recently used the eject option prior to removing my ipod from ubuntu feisty and now when I plug it back in, it does not automatically mount. How do I remount it?
[06:52] <bulmer> Traeumt: what is the command you did?
[06:52] <Traeumt> so i probe the port and it seems closed + Azureus gives firewall warning
[06:52] <Traeumt> to iptables
[06:52] <Traeumt> ?
[06:53] <Traeumt> iptables -X; iptables -F
[06:53] <Flannel> emeriste: nah, there's no limit to the number of people, don't worry about that.
[06:53] <Curs0r> !compiz
[06:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:53] <chuy> IndyLucian: sudo mount /dev/sd?? /path/to/mountpoint
[06:53] <bulmer> Traeumt: whats your setup like? give details as to where is the router, dsl, etc
[06:53] <IndyLucian> chuy, '/path/to/mountpoint' would be a folder that i create in /media, correct?
[06:54] <Paridi> hmm
[06:54] <chuy> IndyLucian, replace sd?? for where your Ipod data partition is, usually sda2, you can check all available partitions with ls /dev/sd?
[06:54] <Nutubuntu> Night all
[06:54] <chuy> IndyLucian ls /dev/sd??
[06:54] <chuy> IndyLucian yes to your question
[06:54] <bulmer> Traeumt: also prefix your responses with a nick if directed to me
[06:54] <IndyLucian> chuy, thank you . . . but am i correct on the mount point
[06:55] <IndyLucian> thanks
[06:55] <SAMO> Hi! Ppl, I need your help... I have a problem with my labtop's sound... I have Ubuntu Feisty and I can only hear any sound with headphones...
[06:55] <Traeumt> bulmer: using an adsl modem with router in it
[06:55] <SAMO> someone?!?!
[06:55] <IndyLucian> chuy, gonna walk over to other comp and try it out
[06:55] <SAMO> pleaze...
[06:55] <DeusEvo> if I am going to be using Linux as a secondary OS, how much space would you recommend my partition for it be?
[06:55] <Bender> bruenig: do u know if earthlink uses dhcp or what ever it is called
[06:55] <bulmer> Traeumt: whats your setup like? give details as to where is the router, dsl, ...more details please..wifi? cat 5 ?
[06:55] <Traeumt> bulmer:Disabled the firewall and redirected the azureus ports needed for connection(nat)
[06:56] <NETWizz> !ping google.com
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping google.com - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <KI4IKL> DeusEvo, depends on how much yuo plan to use linux. I fyou wanna store media i'd say about 20 gb, but I have a pc that runs linux on only 10 gb
[06:56] <bulmer> Traeumt: make sure your dsl/router let it pass through
[06:56] <Traeumt> bulmer: i am connecting to router via cable not wifi
[06:56] <Traeumt> bulmer: i am sure
[06:56] <dibblego> how do I change the PATH for a command executed as sudo?
[06:56] <KI4IKL> DeusEvo, just however you much yuo think you need. I'd say no less than 10gb though
[06:56] <DeusEvo> KI4IKL: all my media will probably reside on the Windows partition, so 10GB will probably suffice for Ubuntu?
[06:56] <KI4IKL> yea
[06:57] <Traeumt> bulmer: and i am sure that my isp didnt block these ports cause i was using these ports on windows 2 days ago
[06:57] <DeusEvo> ok, that sounds reasonable. Thanks
[06:57] <SAMO> Guys sorry... I'm going to ask again: I have a problem with my labtop's sound... I have Ubuntu Feisty and I can only hear any sound with headphones...
[06:57] <KI4IKL> SAMO, maybe a cord between the speakers in your laptop and the sound card is not connected etc. Cause it working with headphones...yeah.
[06:57] <bulmer> Traeumt: when you do  iptables -vL  does it show any rules or all clear
[06:57] <bulmer> ?
[06:57] <KI4IKL> sounds like a hardware problem to me
[06:58] <dibblego> how do I change the PATH for a command executed as sudo? I tried to export PATH in /root/.bashrc but it didn't work; I have to keep typing sudo env PATH=foo command
[06:59] <j85wilson> SAMO, try alsamixer (run from terminal) and make sure that you don't have random things muted or turned all the way down (but remember which ones you try turning up, because you likely don't want all of them up.  If you get it working again, turn each one back down in turn so that you only have those you need up.)
[06:59] <Optimus55> what's a very popular widget engine i can use for ubuntu 7.04?
[06:59] <j85wilson> gtk+
[06:59] <drgeb> anyone got freepops working with yahoo ?
[06:59] <Bender> no
[06:59] <wnet> lkll
[07:00] <wnet> jh
[07:00] <SAMO> j85wilson - i've already tried all that stuff... some ppl told me that my sound driver (Intel) doesn't work on ubuntu
[07:00] <SAMO> I've done all the actualizations, and nothing...
[07:00] <Optimus55> Anyone know a popular widget engine for ubuntu?
[07:00] <j85wilson> SAMO: perhaps they were right.  I wouldn't know.
[07:00] <Bender> drgeb: try ypops http://ypopsemail.com/
[07:01] <j85wilson> Optimus55: gtk+
[07:01] <SAMO> :S ok
[07:01] <Optimus55> oh thanks
[07:01] <SAMO> no problem... thank bro
[07:01] <mkquist> Optimus gDesklets
[07:01] <SAMO> thank you
[07:01] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know how to enable korean language support for Ubuntu????
[07:01] <j85wilson> SAMO np. good luck with it, I hope you find someone who is more help than I
[07:02] <SAMO> ;)
[07:02] <mkquist> Optimus55: gDesklets
[07:02] <stmiller> anyone think that the new Dolphin file manager in Gutsy is similar to OS X Finder? Well Finder much improved
[07:03] <Flannel> stmiller: #ubuntu+1 would be the place to ask (theyre the ones using gutsy)
[07:03] <Optimus55> is there a gusty blog?
[07:03] <stmiller> Flannel: cool thanks
[07:06] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know of a music player that has language  support?
[07:06] <Bender> what language
[07:06] <CheeseGardener> Korean
[07:07] <Geoffrey2> anyone know where I can find help running IE under wine?
[07:07] <p99> there is IE for linux
[07:08] <Geoffrey2> p99, IEs4linux, which simply automates the installation of IE under wine....
[07:08] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know of a music player that has language  support?
[07:08] <p99> Geoffry2: IEs4linux works
[07:08] <p99> oh
[07:08] <bruenig> exaile has really good english support
[07:08] <bruenig> from what I can tell
[07:08] <p99> well they still run fine
[07:09] <Geoffrey2> I installed it, and it's been working, but I'm having problems with it right now, and I'm trying to figure what got goofed, and how to fix it
[07:11] <Traeumt> Bulmer: checked everything problem still goes on
[07:11] <Geoffrey2> I can't type anything properly into the address bar up top, when I type something in, the box that pops up right below it shows something like "Search for ????????m"
[07:11] <MikeyGT> #DBZ-The-Next-Level@irc.immortal-anime.net
[07:11] <MikeyGT> irc://irc.immortal-anime.net/DBZ-The-Next-Level
[07:11] <Traeumt> Bulmer: Is there any other applications are included in ubuntu install ?
[07:12] <crazyman> hello:)
[07:12] <crazyman> is there anyway i can make key ring not ask for a pwd everytime i log on?
[07:12] <Geoffrey2> when I hit enter I get an HTTP 400 - Bad Request error, and the address bar shows a single h....anyone have any ideas?  I reinstalled ies4linux, nothing changed
[07:12] <bruenig> don't use it
[07:13] <crazyman> was that for me bruenig?
[07:13] <zyth> Geoffrey2, yeah, I had that issue too
[07:13] <kahrytan> dont use ie4linux
[07:13] <olrrai> hi
[07:13] <crazyman> got it
[07:13] <zyth> Geoffrey2, hit home, goto the search field on msn search, then you can goto google and surf that way, but its lame
[07:13] <olrrai> y have an error doing this: wget cnn.com/index.html
[07:13] <crazyman> why would you use ie ???
[07:13] <Bender> for gay active x
[07:13] <Bender> mabey
[07:14] <olrrai> but not doing wget cnn.com/index.html --no-proxy # why?
[07:14] <Geoffrey2> kahrytan, ok, and what's the alternative for getting IE up and running under Linux?
[07:14] <the_giver> any good ubuntu install instructions ..
[07:14] <kahrytan> Geoffrey2: could use virtual machine if you abolutely have to have it
[07:14] <the_giver> need to give them to my brother
[07:14] <ggarlic> anyone can tell me why the firefox in ubuntu can't change it's homepage
[07:14] <the_giver> i dont even think you need instructoins right
[07:14] <kahrytan> Geoffrey2: and put windows w/ ie on it
[07:14] <the_giver> wtf.. it should be easy
[07:14] <the_giver> click clikc... is what i remember from ubuntu
[07:14] <danshtr|work> Geoffrey2: whats wron with ie4linux ?
[07:14] <Bender> do u see h in the adressbar
[07:15] <Bender> downgrade wine then it will work i had the same problem
[07:16] <Geoffrey2> Bender, yep, I'm getting an h in the address bar, and I can't type any addresses in...keep getting a Bad Request error
[07:16] <RiCCo69> join #ubuntu
[07:16] <RiCCo69> allright
[07:17] <Bender> i cant remember what ver. u need to downgrade for
[07:17] <Bender> too*
[07:17] <RiCCo69> I have ubuntu installed but I cant get the cube to work anyone know how to fix that
[07:17] <the_giver> ANYONE?
[07:17] <the_giver> i need a step by step install for ubuntu
[07:17] <RiCCo69> i've got the 4 windows present
[07:17] <RiCCo69> \
[07:17] <RiCCo69> giver have you burned the iso
[07:17] <n00dl3> the_giver: google
[07:18] <Geoffrey2> and why IE?  Well, there are several pages I absolutely have to be able to load, which simply won't work under anything except IE
[07:18] <Bender> 1 sec geoffrey2
[07:18] <the_giver> n00d .. i tried that
[07:18] <the_giver> -_-
[07:18] <RiCCo69> if' you have the cd burnt put it in your cd rom and set you cmos to boot from cd
[07:18] <RiCCo69> and then hit your seld and restart
[07:19] <RiCCo69> seld = self
[07:19] <austinhawk> anyone have a problem with ALT-F4 not working?
[07:19] <Bender> ok u need wine 0.9.24
[07:19] <Bender> and it will work
[07:19] <RiCCo69> been drinking wine all night
[07:19] <Dusk_> in ubuntu copying from one hdd to another takes too too long..why can that be? i tried on windows the same but it's a normal time
[07:19] <RiCCo69> seriously though anyone have probs with there cube not working?
[07:20] <the_giver> so when in stainll ubuntu
[07:20] <the_giver> what if i gets stuck
[07:20] <the_giver> fugg
[07:20] <crazyman> it happens
[07:20] <the_giver> my friend is having problems
[07:20] <the_giver> i'm taling over the phone
[07:20] <the_giver> and he says it gest stuck
[07:20] <the_giver> that its being very unresponsive
[07:20] <the_giver> so is there another wa to install
[07:21] <RiCCo69> well he didn't burn the cd right then
[07:21] <RiCCo69> i HAD same prob
[07:21] <the_giver> well.. the check disk was okay
[07:21] <Megaqwerty> Anyone know a command I could put in a bash script to make the script wait until a command (gnome-terminal -x sudo apt-get update for example) finishes before continuing?
[07:21] <RiCCo69> you need to burn the iso not copy paste
[07:21] <the_giver> I KNOW THAT
[07:21] <the_giver> -_-
[07:21] <crazyman> genius
[07:21] <Bender> Geoffrey2: did u downgrade
[07:21] <RiCCo69> tell your friend to buy the support cd
[07:21] <kahrytan> Geoffrey2: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/news/46
[07:21] <RiCCo69> lol j/k
[07:22] <kahrytan> Geoffrey2: readthe comments
[07:22] <RiCCo69> seriously though what vs of ubuntu did you burn
[07:23] <Dusk_> in ubuntu copying from one hdd to another takes too too long..why can that be? i tried on windows the same but it's a normal time
[07:24] <RiCCo69> giver you want help or not
[07:25] <the_giver> can one install from graphical safe mode
[07:25] <the_giver> the newest ver
[07:25] <the_giver> sorry i was away
[07:25] <kahrytan> Geoffrey2: Did you read the comments?
[07:25] <RiCCo69> you shouldn't have to
[07:25] <kahrytan> the_giver: Use alternate cd
[07:26] <RiCCo69> what size vd card do you have
[07:26] <gluttony> can someone help me with ndiswrapper. i am having trouble figuring out how to use it
[07:26] <kahrytan> or install in text mode
[07:26] <RiCCo69> are you installing on a Dell?
[07:26] <the_giver> why alternate cd?
[07:26] <kahrytan> !ndiswrapper
[07:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:26] <the_giver> yes installing on a damn Dell
[07:26] <[andres] > I'm having huge problems with this laptop... Never had any problems like this before. It's a AMD Turion 64 machine, and it can't even boot of the livecd.
[07:26] <RiCCo69> yeah just went through the same fuckin probs
[07:26] <the_giver> no oh crap
[07:26] <the_giver> its a gateway
[07:26] <the_giver> old computer
[07:26] <the_giver> its not mine
[07:27] <RiCCo69> took me 3 days to get here and the fuckin cube still doesn't work
[07:27] <the_giver> lol
[07:27] <the_giver> I mean i got beryl working on my mbp
[07:27] <RiCCo69> find out if he has the system requirments first
[07:27] <the_giver> just trying to help someone else
[07:27] <the_giver> and it sucks cuz i'm not there to just do it
[07:27] <gcarrillo> my bu is bad
[07:27] <RiCCo69> my old dell didn;t work because of the vid card
[07:27] <the_giver> well he can log inot live cd
[07:27] <the_giver> so there should be no problem
[07:27] <the_giver> except live cd is lagging
[07:28] <the_giver> like he cant open anything
[07:28] <crazyman> is there a decent newsreader ? like newsleecher for ubuntu?
[07:28] <RiCCo69> did he partition? or format
[07:28] <pyrargent> crazyman: LOTS of newsreaders
[07:28] <Bender1337> holly crap check out the woot http://www.woot.com/
[07:28] <the_giver> no...
[07:28] <the_giver> why would that matter
[07:28] <crazyman> pyrargent i just loved newsreader, something like that you can recommend?
[07:28] <the_giver> he wasnts to wipe the drive
[07:28] <RiCCo69> when I formated it installed when i was done
[07:29] <RiCCo69> just an idea
[07:29] <RiCCo69> shouldn't have to but it worked for me
[07:29] <pyrargent> crazyman: newsreader is the program's name?
[07:29] <crazyman> no, sorry newsleecher
[07:30] <pyrargent> crazyman: lemme check
[07:30] <Traeumt> Hi hi hi hi again
[07:30] <gluttony> can someone help me with using ndiswrapper?
[07:30] <Traeumt> Guys is there a way to uninstall iptables ?
[07:30] <Bender1337> this is ububntu help
[07:30] <Traeumt> or completely disabling it
[07:30] <pyrargent> crazyman: binaries are evil.. there's one decent binaries client, do you care about that feature?
[07:30] <Bender1337> check ndiswrapper fourms/chat
[07:30] <crazyman> of course lol, and believe me newsleecher is a near perfect application
[07:31] <T7> I have this weird problem with firefox lagging really bad after using it for a while.. I mean it will lag for about 2 seconds then load something.
[07:31] <T7> Anyone else have this problem?
[07:31] <RiCCo69> no
[07:31] <Bender1337> no
[07:31] <Bender1337> using it now
[07:31] <RiCCo69> but i cant get my cube to work any ideas?
[07:31] <T7> I get a 100%spike
[07:31] <gtdawg> T7: yes, i chalked it up to a slow processor
[07:31] <gtdawg> sempron 2400+
[07:32] <T7> gtdawg: not that slow though.. 2.4 P4
[07:32] <Bender1337> mabye an extension?
[07:32] <T7> yeah I'm running firebug
[07:32] <Alives> im trying to get dhcpd to answer on 2 different interfaces with 2 different networks on them... it will only answer on one.  any ideas?  http://pastebin.ca/648367
[07:32] <arooni> is there an equivalent for remote desktop (gui based) in ubuntu 7.04 (to connect from one ubuntu to anohter ) ?
[07:32] <pyrargent> crazyman: KLibido is the only one I can find.. pay no heed to the screenshots
[07:33] <dhamma> i'm trying to batch convert a bunch of wavs to flac and found this from google, but don't know what to put in place of 'foo' as each file is uniquely named: for FOO in `ls -R | grep wav` ; do flac -5 ${FOO} ; done
[07:33] <Alives> arooni: google for nx server
[07:33] <crazyman> lol sounds like a porn nice, let me check it out
[07:33] <pyrargent> arooni: there's freeNX
[07:33] <abe> hi
[07:33] <Bender1337> yo
[07:33] <gluttony> i am trying to get my wireless on my laptop to work. i was told to use ndiswrapper a while ago, but i dont seem able to get it
[07:34] <Bender1337> try there chat and forms
[07:34] <crazyman> i run gnome.. does that matter? pyrargent
[07:34] <jlund> Any advice on how to fully encrypt a laptop Ubuntu installation?
[07:35] <pyrargent> crazyman: well Usenet was never intentioned as a filesharing system
[07:35] <crazyman> i know, but you cant download sooner or faster than usenet
[07:35] <Bender1337> jlund: why
[07:35] <sauvin> I sometimes get to be bemused as to why sometimes settings like the default schema for Konsole get lost between reboots.
[07:35] <pyrargent> crazyman: depends on your connection, if you have DSL you should be able to with a good torrent with lots of seeds
[07:35] <crazyman> torrents are getting decent, but nothing compares to usenet
[07:36] <pyrargent> except direct ftp :D
[07:36] <jamesdell> hi! anyone had tried to use limewire in feisty fawn?
[07:36] <crazyman> unless u have all the groups feeding u
[07:36] <jlund> Bender1337: If my laptop gets lost or stolen I don't want anyone to have access to the information.
[07:36] <crazyman> and they usually feed usenet asap
[07:36] <DaTx> does anyone have know how to install codec on rhythmbox
[07:37] <pyrargent> crazyman: you mean have an actual usenet server? yeah, you get all the files
[07:37] <Geoffrey2> kahrytan, I think I've got it working, thanks...
[07:37] <jamesdell> !limewire
[07:37] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[07:37] <kahrytan> Geoffrey2: did the comments help?
[07:37] <jamesdell> !java
[07:37] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:38] <emeriste> is this still freenode?
[07:38] <pyrargent> crazyman: if you don't like KLibido or any Linux clients, you can always run Wine on your favorite windows application
[07:39] <crazyman> yea im considering wining newsleecher
[07:39] <Flannel> emeriste: yes
[07:39] <dhamma> /server irc.efnet.org
[07:40] <pyrargent> crazyman: though I tend to avoid basing everything on wine, just like I am careful with kernel/kde - break one, you break everything that needs it
[07:40] <crazyman> im afraid of wine, lol
[07:40] <Geoffrey2> kahrytan, that particular problem seems to be gone now, yes
[07:40] <pyrargent> crazyman: so do you have your own newsserver?
[07:41] <crazyman> nah too much work its better to pay for one now
[07:42] <crazyman> pyrargent, maximumusenet is 14 bucks for unlimited bandwidth , and it will max out whatever speed u have
[07:42] <pyrargent> crazyman: ahh, nice
[07:42] <pyrargent> crazyman: posting?
[07:42] <crazyman> whatever you like to do
[07:43] <jamesdell> !FrostWire
[07:43] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:43] <crazyman> yea this newsapps blow .. major cock
[07:44] <pyrargent> crazyman: what's it missing?
[07:44] <crazyman> friendly giu, password protection, par2 processing, file explorer integrated, multiple posting handling, automatic sorting, i could go on for a while
[07:45] <pyrargent> crazyman: thought it had a file explorer, sorry
[07:45] <pyrargent> crazyman: a KIO slave would be the best bet even if you use gnome
[07:46] <crazyman> i dont understand it seems rather illogical i figured the best clients would be for unix, since you know most of the binaries im interested in are posted by release groups
[07:47] <pyrargent> crazyman: /msg me.. I have an idea if you suffer from WINE intoxication
[07:47] <ThatLazyGuy> i turned on the Kiosh mode on compiz fusion, and changed the thunar file manager to fullscreen mode, and now i cant change it back
[07:47] <crazyman> its not my nick.. hold up
[07:48] <Bender1337> what is the name of the ubuntu off topic
[07:48] <Bender1337> channel
[07:48] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:48] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Please use Gnome Search Tool to find /var/log/suspend2ram.log. How does it call the 'Type' of this file in English? 'application protocol'?
[07:48] <Bender1337> thx
[07:49] <File13> Hi im installin and ran into a big of trouble i have XP on here and i was setting up a root,swap,boot and home directory but after creating my root,swap and boot the rest of my space comes up as unusable, any idea why that is?
[07:49] <klock> File13, you have to make everything after the 3rd partition logical
[07:49] <belred> is wordpress the clear winner for open source blog software?
[07:49] <yomomma33> i msged u
[07:50] <Flannel> File13: You can only have five primary partitions, you'll need to make the fifth as an extended, with logical ones inside of it
[07:50] <File13> uhhhh could someone PM me and i can run over what i have so i know which ones to set to logical so i dont mess omething up
[07:51] <Flannel> File13: delete the last one, make the remaining space an extended partition, then you can create additional logical partitions inside of that
[07:51] <ThatLazyGuy> i turned on the Kiosh mode on compiz fusion, and changed the thunar file manager to fullscreen mode, and now i cant change it back
[07:52] <File13> make the bulk of the remaining space ext3?
[07:52] <Flannel> File13: yeah, remove the last partition, then make everything else one large extended partition
[07:53] <File13> does it matter if my boot partition is in there then?
[07:53] <File13> because i created swap and root first
[07:53] <File13> ive yet to make boot or home
[07:53] <File13> or does it make a difference
[07:53] <Geoffrey2> hmmm?  when did you start being able to have more than four partition on a hard drive?
[07:53] <klock> File13, send me a chat
[07:54] <File13> i sent a pm
[07:54] <File13> klock
[07:54] <klock> m
[07:54] <yomomma33> i guess hes gone /nick crazyman
[07:55] <File13> did you get it klock
[07:55] <klock> NickServ refuses my password
[07:55] <pyrargent> crazyman: what irc client do you use?
[07:56] <crazyman> xchat
[07:56] <klock> hold on
[07:56] <ether> can anyone help me make a regex that matches letters, but not necessarily in order? ie: "abcd" would match "dcba"
[07:57] <sauvin> ether: [abcd] 
[07:57] <sauvin> That'll match on of any of a, b, c or d.
[07:58] <ether> thanks, but will it match all of them?
[07:58] <ether> I need it to have a, b, c, and d
[07:58] <ether> though, not necessarily in order
[07:58] <echelon> usually to connect ot my uni i use putty
[07:58] <pyrargent> there is no way to prevent something like aaaa if you do 4*[abcd] 
[07:58] <echelon> now i have ubuntu what should i do
[07:59] <pyrargent> use ssh in an Konsole/Terminal/xterm
[07:59] <echelon> how?
[07:59] <slapfaceware> yah putty got scp too, pretty cool
[07:59] <atomic> I'm trying to connect a bluetooth gps using the bluez stack. The gps has SPP (Serial Port Profile). I can see the gps, but i am unable to get it to connect and the command 'sdptool browse ....' reports nothing for the  device
[07:59] <pyrargent> echelon: you can also install PuTTY terminal for ubuntu, though it is rather useless
[07:59] <matiu> do any videos come with ubuntu
[08:00] <echelon> lol.
[08:00] <matiu> like can be found on hdd after standard install?
[08:00] <sauvin> pyrargent, useless or just redundant?
[08:00] <pyrargent> redundant, I mean
[08:00] <slapfaceware> just install openssh, it has everything
[08:01] <atomic> the gps works correctly under winxp. It sets up SPP and I can use hyper terminal to connect to it and get read outs from the gps. Would anyone be able to help at all with trying to get the gps connected  under linux?
[08:01] <Josh> please help im stuck in command line and need to replace my xorg.conf with the backed up one which is in my  home folder
[08:01] <DerangedDingo> Josh: what's the back up named
[08:01] <Josh> xorg.conf
[08:02] <DerangedDingo> Josh: sudo mv xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:02] <jklock> file13, did you figure it out or do you still need help?
[08:02] <DerangedDingo> Josh: Control + Alt + Backspace
[08:02] <File13> still need help
[08:02] <gameguy> I need help getting feisty to connect to my fios router
[08:02] <sauvin> What's hyperterminal?
[08:02] <jklock> k, give me 120 seconds
[08:03] <pyrargent> sauvin: I thought hyperterminal was for Windows.. saw it on an ancient Wintel box
[08:03] <Josh> what is the command to reboot
[08:03] <Josh> the computer
[08:03] <Soulwarp> sudo reboot
[08:03] <MasterShrek> Josh, /sbin/reboot
[08:03] <pyrargent> atomic: what GPS brand?
[08:03] <sauvin> Yea. Some kind of crappy terminal emulator for the Good Old Days when networking was done with telephone wires and modems.
[08:03] <DerangedDingo> Josh:
[08:03] <Josh> thank u
[08:03] <DerangedDingo> Josh: control alt backspace restarts X without rebooting
[08:04] <Josh> wouldn't work... i guess to be able to restart x it would have had to have started in the first place
[08:04] <jklock> File13, alright go
[08:04] <pyrargent> atomic: well, there is GPS software for Linux, but I'd have to have an idea if the hardware support is there
[08:04] <File13> go what
[08:04] <DerangedDingo> Josh: Control alt F7
[08:04] <jklock> sorry
[08:04] <MasterShrek> Josh, sudo gdm
[08:04] <jklock> send me a pm
[08:05] <File13> alright i did
[08:05] <Josh> k thanks!
[08:05] <gameguy> anyone have verizon fios that can answer questions for me?
[08:05] <atomic> pyrargent: a no brand with the new-ish MTK 32 Chipset (MediaTek)
[08:05] <Optimus55> anyone know how to get the reflection effect in AWN?
[08:06] <Josh> i'm trying to extend my desktop onto a second monitor... anyone know where i can find a guide or sumthin to do so?
[08:06] <MasterShrek> josh what kinda video card do you have?
[08:06] <pyrargent> atomic: going to check aptitude
[08:06] <Josh> ati x1950xtx
[08:06] <MasterShrek> good luck
[08:07] <MasterShrek> lol, try google
[08:07] <pyrargent> atomic: i'm on windows with emulation which sucks
[08:07] <jklock> are you registerd File13?
[08:07] <MasterShrek> ati and linux arent very friendly
[08:07] <File13> i dont believe so
[08:07] <File13> i dont use IRC often
[08:07] <jklock> ah
[08:08] <gameguy> does anyone know what could cause feisty to keep asking me for the WEP key for my router even though I had already typed it in correctly?
[08:08] <atomic> pyrargent: I was going to use gpsd, but the problem so far seems to be that it wont actually connect via bluetooth
[08:08] <pyrargent> atomic: oh, it's bluetooth
[08:08] <ether> gameguy: sometimes you need to reset the router if it keeps asking you
[08:08] <atomic> pyrargent: yes
[08:08] <ether> that always works for me at least
[08:08] <pyrargent> atomic: does it require bluetooth support in-computer?
[08:08] <pyrargent> atomic: or is it a fob-thingy?
[08:09] <gameguy> just off/on switch it?
[08:09] <atomic> pyrargent: fob0thingy?
[08:09] <File13> could you not see anything i was typing?
[08:09] <File13> in the PM
[08:09] <ClNorris> Help, when trying to use gpp to compile a helloworld c++ file, it returns that i cannot find header file iostream.h
[08:09] <jklock> File13, nope
[08:09] <File13> do you have aim?
[08:09] <Flannel> ClNorris: did you install build-essential?
[08:09] <jklock> yes
[08:09] <ClNorris> Flannel, how do i do that?
[08:09] <File13> mine is ReputoDiversus
[08:10] <jklock> j0hnklock
[08:10] <pyrargent> atomic: like, a USB device that you also must plug in
[08:10] <ClNorris> Flannel, im sorry i pressed the wrong keys
[08:10] <leben> question
[08:10] <ClNorris> Flannel, how do I install the build essentials?
[08:10] <Flannel> ClNorris: install the package 'build-essential' with your favorite package manager
[08:10] <ClNorris> Flannel, synaptics?
[08:10] <leben> i have an older version of ubunto on cd (not sure on the version, would have to look)
[08:10] <Flannel> ClNorris: synaptic will work, yes
[08:10] <leben> if i install that, is it easy to "update"?
[08:10] <atomic> pyrargent: no usb. Just straight up comms via bluetooth, that's it
[08:11] <ClNorris> Flannel, will it be titled build-essential?
[08:11] <Flannel> leben: yes, but you can only upgrade one version at a time, so it might be easier/faster/less bandwidth to just download a new CD
[08:11] <Flannel> ClNorris: correct.
[08:11] <ClNorris> Flannel, thank you
[08:11] <pyrargent> atomic: how did you get such a connection using hyperterminal
[08:11] <pyrargent> atomic: I'm doubting the bluetooth system is set up right
[08:11] <ClNorris> Flannel, hello.cpp:2: error: Requested include file not found
[08:12] <mayeco> hello
[08:12] <atomic> pyrargent: the gps supports the serial port profile for bluetooth
[08:12] <Flannel> ClNorris: er, this is C++?  no .h, just <iostream>
[08:12] <pyrargent> atomic: so what, it fakes a serial port
[08:12] <ClNorris> Flannel, same error
[08:13] <atomic> pyrargent: like OBEX etc for bluetooth, but a serial port
[08:13] <awg> hi all, i just upgraded to feisty, and after making sure everything worked, i went to upgrade my nvidia drivers.  now i've fucked them up and can't start X
[08:13] <awg> what is the recommended way of installing nvidia drivers these days?
[08:13] <Flannel> ClNorris: and you've installed build-essential?  pastebin your source file
[08:13] <ClNorris> Flannel, pastebin?
[08:13] <Flannel> !paste | ClNorris
[08:13] <ubotu> ClNorris: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:13] <atomic> pyrargent: bluetooth printers use SPP
[08:13] <desertc__> What's UP all you crazy Oceanic linux GUYS?  Giving props to Free Software I hope.  Get this stuff into your homeland and get empowered by Linux and the GPL
[08:14] <atomic> pyrargent: but yeh it acts just like a serial port except transmission is done via bluetooth instead of wires
[08:14] <pyrargent> atomic: hmm, is the gps even detected?
[08:14] <ClNorris> Flannel, yes build-essential is installed http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32881/
[08:14] <atomic> pyrargent: when searching for bluetooth devices it is found, yes
[08:14] <pyrargent> atomic: you could possibly try kbtserialchat
[08:14] <desertc__> All you guys from Bellsouth.net -- time for bed!
[08:15] <ClNorris> Flannel, any ideas?
[08:15] <gluttony> i need to install ndiswrapper on my lappy, but i cant connect it to the net. how can i get ndiswrapper on it?
[08:15] <Flannel> gluttony: sneakernet
[08:16] <ether> sudo apt-get install g++?
[08:16] <ClNorris> gluttony, how about by ethernet card?
[08:16] <Flannel> gluttony: packages.ubuntu.com and you can download the deb files (and the depends)
[08:16] <ClNorris> ether, who is that toward?
[08:16] <ether> you, sorry
[08:16] <Penguinsaremyfr1> Anybody know of a good mac-esque dock for linux?
[08:16] <gluttony> Flannel. thanks
[08:16] <ClNorris> ether, i have gpp installed already
[08:16] <awg> no wisdom on the nvidia drivers, eh? :-(
[08:16] <gluttony> Flannel, what is sneakernet
[08:16] <Optimus55> Penguinsaremyfr1: Avant window navigator
[08:17] <Penguinsaremyfr1> Thanks, I will check it out
[08:17] <Flannel> ClNorris: No, that's odd.  But you do need std::cout, not just cout.  But that wouldn't cause the iostream header error.
[08:17] <ClNorris> Flannel, why would i need std::cout?
[08:17] <aldren> hiya, anyone already tried to configure ipsec(setkey) using three servers(three networks) and got problem to work for all?
[08:18] <Flannel> gluttony: it's when you download the files to some physical medium (USB drive, floppy, whatever) and walk (on your sneakers) to the other machine
[08:18] <gluttony> Flannel, what category do i look under?
[08:18] <Flannel> gluttony: Just search for 'ndiswrapper'
[08:18] <bush-rules> Can anyone help me, k3b wont verify anything I burn
[08:18] <desertc__> !ndiswrapper
[08:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:18] <gluttony> Flannel, once i dl it, can you walk me through sneakernet?
[08:18] <atomic> pyrargent: blah, gonna have to install a heap of stuff just for that app....I'll give it a go
[08:18] <Flannel> ClNorris: because cout is in std namespace.
[08:18] <ether> ClNorris: are you sure you have g++? I don't think gpp is the same thing
[08:18] <Flannel> gluttony: make sure you get whatever depends you need (ndiswrapper common is one)
[08:18] <ClNorris> Flannel, what do i do?
[08:19] <ClNorris> k lemme check
[08:19] <Penguinsaremyfr1> My first day with linux, i got broadcom wireless in my laptop to work! lol
[08:19] <pyrargent> atomic: wait, there may be a gnome app
[08:19] <gluttony> Flannel, i got three differnt things fromt the search, get all three?
[08:19] <orbish> how can i get my terminal windows to show like 100 lines instead of whatever amount they use now.... everything is so big and i want it smaller with more information
[08:19] <Flannel> gluttony: It can't hurt.  You only need ndiswrapper-1.8 (or 1.9 or whatever the version is), if I remember.  (plus the depends)
[08:20] <ClNorris> Flannel, okay i got it to work.
[08:20] <pyrargent> orbish: reduce font size
[08:20] <orbish> same goes with terminal in gnome
[08:20] <orbish> it just makes the window smaller :/
[08:20] <RMMcPherson> Has anyone ever had troubles with their wireless card not working sometimes and working easily other times?
[08:20] <ClNorris> Flannel, any good c++ tutorials?
[08:20] <klos> any australians onlien ??
[08:20] <Flannel> ClNorris: There are plenty.  Uh, you might try asking in ##C++
[08:20] <xstasi> orbish, how bout enlarging the window?
[08:20] <ClNorris> Flannel, especially for linux, because all the tuts i am finding don't have std::cout
[08:20] <roadkill> i need a proxy servers 101 for a few mins any takers?
[08:20] <ClNorris> Flannel, they all just say cout " ";
[08:21] <orbish> doesn't allow it
[08:21] <orbish> ...i lower the font size, the window just gets smaller
[08:21] <gluttony> Flannel, do i have to click and dl all the packages that come up, or do can i get them all at once?
[08:21] <Flannel> ClNorris: Linux is the same as windows with C++.  And they both need std::cout, unless you use includes.
[08:21] <ClNorris> Flannel, such as <stdio> ??
[08:22] <aldren> :(
[08:22] <pyrargent> atomic: there's rfcomm in kubuntu, it should also be in ubuntu
[08:22] <gluttony> Flannel, nm, i see it
[08:22] <Flannel> ClNorris: no, sorry.  I meant unless you use 'using', not includes.
[08:22] <ClNorris> . k
[08:22] <pyrargent> atomic: that's probably what you need, seeing as you were using hyperterminal before
[08:22] <awg> fucking hell, there has to be some way to get the nvidia drivers working properly
[08:22] <verden> hi anyone from Australia?
[08:23] <Penguinsaremyfr1> My nvidia drivers work fine
[08:23] <awg> Penguinsaremyfr1: so, mine were working fine, then i went to upgrad eto the latest version
[08:23] <Flannel> verden: try #ubuntu-au
[08:23] <verden> cool thanx
[08:23] <Penguinsaremyfr1> ahhh. ic
[08:23] <awg> Penguinsaremyfr1: and now i'm having a problem where the glx module and the kernel module are incompatible
[08:23] <Penguinsaremyfr1> The ones that came with the installation cd were fine for me
[08:24] <awg> Penguinsaremyfr1: isn't that the nv driver?
[08:24] <atomic> pyrargent: from what I know rfcomm runs off a /dev device, which is something I don't have yet because the gps isn't connecting under linux
[08:24] <Penguinsaremyfr1> I have one of the stupid hp's that I had to noacpi it
[08:24] <Penguinsaremyfr1> I guess
[08:24] <gluttony> Flannel, how can i check to make sure i have the amd64 arch?
[08:24] <Penguinsaremyfr1> I am in fiesty, got the cd from a friend
[08:24] <Flannel> gluttony: What install CD did you use?
 cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:25] <pyrargent> atomic: it runs under a dev device because it establishes a device.. it's kind of like mounting a loopback
[08:25] <pyrargent> atomic: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~jscrane/gps/
[08:25] <roadkill> i need a proxy servers 101 for a few mins any takers?
[08:26] <MasterShrek> cat /proc/cpuinfo lists both of my cpu cores at 800 mhz but they shold both be 1.6ghz
[08:26] <xstasi> MasterShrek, i think they are in powersave
[08:26] <gluttony> nicle, thank you, but im actually trying to check which ubuntu i installed, the 64 bit or not
[08:27] <xstasi> issue this on your terminal:
[08:27] <jacky_> hey there
[08:27] <pyrargent> atomic: can you do an hcitool scan and see it, at all?
[08:27] <xstasi> cat /dev/urandom | gzip > /dev/null
[08:27] <xstasi> and then check again
[08:27] <xstasi> :p
[08:27] <atomic> pyrargent: yes
[08:27] <ClNorris> Flannel, i just busted out my college book on c++ and it does the same thing. include <iostream.h> and cout with no namespaces
[08:27] <Hirvinen> MasterShrek: They're probably in a power saving mode because they aren't under heavy load.
[08:27] <pyrargent> gluttony: "uname -a" should report it
[08:27] <sauvin> #@$@#% I'm discovering the pan newsreder can't handle a big load.
[08:27] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Please use Gnome Search Tool to find /var/log/suspend2ram.log. How does it call the 'Type' of this file in English? 'application protocol'?
[08:28] <MasterShrek> Hirvinen, so theyll switch once i start using them more?
[08:28] <xstasi> MasterShrek, try what i said
[08:28] <xstasi> :)
[08:28] <pyrargent> sauvin: troubles in the Labyrinth.. very buggy
[08:28] <Flannel> ClNorris: Right.  You don't want to inlcude <iostream.h>, that's obsolete by a long shot.  It's <iostream> which puts stuff in the standard namespace, thus you need to use 'using' or just specify the namespace (std::cout)
[08:28] <sauvin> Labyrinth?
[08:28] <xstasi> using namespace std;
[08:28] <xstasi> :P
[08:28] <pyrargent> atomic: rfcomm connect 0 <address of device
[08:28] <gluttony> pyrargent, got x86_64 near the end, that the 64 bit ubuntu
[08:28] <MasterShrek> yea that worked xstasi
[08:28] <ClNorris> Flannel, i am confused. can you please point me to some tutorials on this new way?
[08:28] <pyrargent> gluttony: yes
[08:28] <gluttony> Flannel, ok, got the files
[08:28] <atomic> pyrargent: but when i use hcitool or hidd to connect with it, it just doesn't happen. no errors or anything that I'm told about.
[08:28] <sauvin> I remember using evolution under fedora core, though... it was megaslow.
[08:29] <gluttony> pyrargent, danke shon
[08:29] <xstasi> MasterShrek, ok, so it's powersaving
[08:29] <xstasi> :)
[08:29] <pyrargent> atomic: did you use "rfcomm connect 0 <address of what is reported in hcitool>"?
[08:29] <atomic> about to now
[08:29] <MasterShrek> nothing to worry about then xstasi? theyll adjust themselves automatically?
[08:30] <Flannel> ClNorris: It's hardly 'new', it's the proper C++ way.  Here's a good, free, online book: http://www.relisoft.com/book/index.htm
[08:30] <ClNorris> Flannel, thank you
[08:30] <atomic> pyrargent: son of a....i think that did it
[08:30] <xstasi> MasterShrek, as you may have just discovered, the powersaving daemon will fill your CPU veins with pure power whenever it will need it
[08:30] <pyrargent> You -do- want to include iostream.h if you are writing C
[08:30] <atomic> pyrargent: the light is now flashing at the correct interval
[08:30] <MasterShrek> cool, thanks xstasi
[08:30] <pyrargent> or if you are stuck in my IT class - eww
[08:31] <pyrargent> atomic: nice
[08:31] <pyrargent> atomic: good luck parsing the junk
[08:31] <xstasi> pyrargent, so they teach you obsolete C++?
[08:31] <xstasi> how lucky, they were teaching me Pascal :)
[08:31] <gluttony> Flannel, what do i do now that i have the files?
[08:31] <atomic> pyrargent: but it hasn't got a fixed position atm 'cos it's inside....I'll take out it outside again n see how it goes ;)
[08:31] <R-V> could anyone tell me the easiest way to get beryl cube running?
[08:32] <Flannel> gluttony: put them on a USB drive, or floppy, or whatever, walk them to the other computer, and double click them.
[08:32] <xstasi> R-V, which vga?
[08:32] <desertc__> !effects |R-V
[08:32] <ubotu> R-V: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[08:32] <Flannel> gluttony: start with the dependencies, end with ndiswrapper-1.9
[08:32] <emeriste> If this is the Freenode Network why does it say Ubuntu Servers ?
[08:32] <gluttony> Flannel, is it ok that i started ndiswrapper common before you said that?
[08:32] <desertc__> emeriste, aliases
[08:32] <Flannel> emeriste: because irc.ubuntu.com redirects to irc.freenode.org
[08:33] <R-V> intel corp 82865G integrated gra....
[08:33] <emeriste> Oh. I wonder if that gives us a little more security/privacy too.
[08:33] <Flannel> gluttony: yeah, it'll say "requires XXX and YYY" or whatever, and then won't install.  It's no big deal
[08:33] <Flannel> emeriste: Nope
[08:33] <emeriste> Oh haha. Well okay then.
[08:33] <nox-Hand> /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[08:33] <nox-Hand> How owuld I get it?
[08:33] <gluttony> um, it installed just fine when i installed, Flannel
[08:33] <emeriste> So it's not like a proxy thing.
[08:33] <Flannel> gluttony: interesting.  Alright
[08:33] <Flannel> emeriste: nope, just a redirect
[08:33] <MasterShrek> nox-Hand, sudo apt-get instsall nvidia-glx
[08:33] <z3r0ph3wl> hellow! what command best to use in ssh to search text in file sources?
[08:34] <nox-Hand> MasterShrek: Got it
[08:34] <r2d4> Hi all. I can't get my video player to work. Any help please.
[08:34] <emeriste> Does the ubuntu servers have anything on it other than freenode?
[08:34] <xstasi> z3r0ph3wl, grep -r text directory/
[08:34] <gluttony> Flannel, i went to install ndiswrapper-untils-1.9 and it said a better one is on a software channel or something like it
[08:34] <emeriste> Or is the ubuntu servers actually the place where the repository and all that is located?
[08:34] <nox-Hand> MasterShrek: nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[08:34] <z3r0ph3wl> xstasi: thanks
[08:34] <Flannel> gluttony: er, this is feisty?
[08:34] <MasterShrek> nox-Hand, nvidia-glx-new maybe?
[08:34] <atomic> pyrargent: it's working...perfect....i'm getting all the rubbish data that I need
[08:34] <gluttony> Flannel, yes
[08:34] <Flannel> gluttony: then you're already connected to the internet
[08:34] <atomic> pyrargent: cheers mate
[08:34] <nox-Hand> MasterShrek: Will ntyr
[08:34] <nox-Hand> try*
[08:35] <MasterShrek> nox-Hand, or else go to nvidias site and download the driver
[08:35] <gluttony> Flannel, my network monitor says no connection
[08:35] <emeriste> So is it just redirecting like that, basically for marketing purpoes, so that we all see Ubuntu Servers? (not to be cynical. I like Ubuntu and all that).
[08:35] <nox-Hand> Hmn
[08:35] <gluttony> Flannel, ok, walk me throught using ndiswrapper, please
[08:35] <Flannel> emeriste: It's so that in the future, if ubuntu wanted to move to a different network, you wouldn't have to know about the change.
[08:36] <Flannel> gluttony: I've never used it.  There is a tutorial on the wiki page though
[08:36] <Flannel> !wifi | gluttony
[08:36] <ubotu> gluttony: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:36] <nox-Hand> Could anyone with X find me the link to nvidias driver fmor their website?
[08:36] <gluttony> Flannel, thanks for the help
[08:36] <pyrargent> atomic: now how are you using the data?
[08:37] <pyrargent> atomic: just bookmark that page - I am fairly sure a reboot will tear down these interfaces
[08:37] <crazyman> hey i just read about dell and lenovo offering ubuntu on their laptops now, pretty damn cool
[08:38] <MasterShrek> nox-Hand, 32 bit i assume?
[08:38] <gluttony> Flannel, it says to to put in the driver name, but i dont know which i need
[08:38] <nox-Hand> MasterShrek: Correct
[08:38] <MasterShrek> nox-Hand, http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[08:38] <nox-Hand> MasterShrek: My hero :)
[08:38] <sauvin> Dell's doing WHAT?
[08:38] <Flannel> gluttony: You'll have to look it up.  It's specific to your particular card.  You might try looking in the forums (ubuntuforums.org) for a walkthrough specific to your card/lappy/whatever
[08:38] <Nunzio> MasterShrek: Isnt it better to use the Restricted Drivers Manager for that?
[08:38] <pyrargent> atomic: this is a better site but the modules are likely already loaded
[08:38] <pyrargent> atomic: http://gpsd.berlios.de/bt.html
[08:38] <MasterShrek> Nunzio, maybe
[08:39] <crazyman> sauvin, ubuntu is now a choice on their operating systems
[08:39] <mirefu> !help
[08:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:39] <gluttony> Flannel, and how do i check which card i have?
[08:39] <MasterShrek> i havent used ubuntu since 5.06 i think i was
[08:39] <MasterShrek> hoary
[08:39] <sauvin> That's... special. I wonder how they intend to contort it.
[08:39] <atomic> pyrargent: was going to use gpsd to filter/interpret the gps data n whatever apps can just read from gpsd the data that they need
[08:39] <Flannel> gluttony: `lspci` might do it.  or `lsusb` or lshw
[08:39] <crazyman> pertty cool
[08:39] <MasterShrek> gluttony, lspci
[08:40] <pyrargent> atomic: berlios site tells you how to bind it, so you don't have to connect every time.. and to get gpsd to use the device
[08:40] <gluttony> ug this is overwhelming.....
[08:41] <pyrargent> atomic: and also - DROP the packets in your firewall, you do not want someone stalking you with gps
[08:42] <digip1mp> does anyone know of a way to run psybnc on ubuntu stably? (psy works great when compiled with/on older versions of glibc, but is terrible on newer versions of glibc that ubuntu ships with): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471811
[08:43] <the_giver> anyone here
[08:43] <the_giver> so the live cd loads
[08:43] <pyrargent> digip1mp: can't you just use something else?
[08:43] <the_giver> and i get to the damn desktop
[08:43] <the_giver> now i click install
[08:43] <the_giver> how long should it take on  a 2.0ghz (p4) .. 512 ram?
[08:43] <pyrargent> digip1mp: like eggdrops, bnc muh, ezbounce
[08:44] <makkk> hey all. i got a new laptop (sony viao) and the wireless card does not seem to be picked up by the live cd. what are the chances it will work with an install?
[08:44] <pyrargent> digip1mp: regular bnc should work
[08:44] <Tabmow> anyone had their ubuntu system constantly go into suspend? I can't stop it... any ideaS?
[08:44] <xstasi> the_giver, half an hour?
[08:44] <atomic> pyrargent: lol i'm not that paranoid. but if they were going to do that, they'd have to be following the gps and laptop, which will be cruising in a car, and I think I'd get a bit suspicious if someone was to continuously follow me in another car
[08:44] <pyrargent> I haven't been able to GET my ubuntu system into suspend
[08:44] <xstasi> maybe little more
[08:44] <pyrargent> Tabmow: it could be heat
[08:44] <the_giver> i mean
[08:44] <the_giver> the damn install doesnt come up
[08:44] <the_giver> WTF
[08:45] <BrendanM> I'm running Xubuntu on a Dell Latitude c610. I was wondering if anyone knows how to set up an external monitor (i.e. clone, extended desktop, etc.)? The video card is an ATI radeon mobility
[08:45] <the_giver> HALF an HOUR????
[08:45] <digip1mp> pyrargent: there is nothing that works quite like psy.  multinetwork + multiuser and one connection from client to psy.
[08:45] <Tabmow> pyrargent: nope, I put it to suspend to test to see if it works, now it won't come back from suspend, and if i do a reboot on it it just starts suspend when i login again, it just cycles
[08:45] <the_giver> is there another ubuntu installer i can get?
[08:45] <the_giver> this one sucks
[08:45] <preaction> !enter | the_giver
[08:45] <ubotu> the_giver: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:45] <the_giver> -_-
[08:45] <pyrargent> Tabmow: get the disk out and check on another system to see if it was suspended by the heat controls
[08:45] <preaction> the_giver, no, 30 minutes is pretty good for installing an entire OS. it's not the processor or the RAM, it's the hard drive / CD-ROM speeds
[08:46] <the_giver> so lets say i've burned two cd
[08:46] <xstasi> the_giver, do you know any OS that installs faster?
[08:46] <xstasi> :)
[08:46] <pyrargent> Tabmow: if you are able to quickly rename all shutdown and suspend commands, the system will not be able to go down because of that
[08:46] <Tabmow> pyrargent: I don't have another system I can put it in, it's a laptop hdd
[08:46] <xstasi> maybe vista?
[08:46] <the_giver> and .... i want to install.. i get to the damn desktop.. and i click around and nothing loads
[08:46] <xstasi> or winxp?
[08:46] <the_giver> xtasi listen to what i'm saying
[08:46] <pyrargent> Tabmow: be aware it may kill your laptop
[08:46] <the_giver> stop making stupid comments please
[08:46] <pyrargent> Tabmow: because it's shutting down for a reason
[08:46] <MasterShrek> vista is the best os ever
[08:46] <xstasi> the_giver, it's not me who's making stupid comments
[08:46] <preaction> !enter | the_giver, I can't understand anything because you keep pressing "Enter" between your phrases.
[08:47] <ubotu> the_giver, I can't understand anything because you keep pressing "Enter" between your phrases.: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:47] <BrendanM> The_giver, have you tried the alternate text installer?
[08:47] <the_giver> BrendanM how do i get to the text installer
[08:47] <the_giver> "safe graphics mode"? install ubuntu, is taht it?
[08:47] <Tabmow> pyrargent: im calibrating the battery in bios at the moment so i will need to wait to test, but i put it into suspend manually so i doubt i will screw anything
[08:47] <digip1mp> pyrargent: ezbounce is closest, but requires multiple client to server connections and doesn't play with oidentd
[08:47] <xstasi> the_giver, download ubuntu alternate
[08:47] <xstasi> it's a different iso
[08:47] <pyrargent> digip1mp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2829953
[08:47] <xstasi> anyway, i still don't understand your problem.. you said the live already loaded and you are actually installing
[08:47] <xstasi> didn't you?
[08:48] <pyrargent> digip1mp: it says that it's bad out of date code but it is the only thing like it
[08:48] <BrendanM> Does anyone know why the text installer isn't included somewhere in the regular iso? It seems like it would be easy to do.
[08:48] <xstasi> BrendanM, it would not
[08:48] <PF|Ubuntu> Ive been trying to install the latest legacy glx drivers from the Nvidia website. I get them installed but everytime I edit "nv" to "nvidia" in the xorg.conf, it makes X crash on start up. Any idea what to do?
[08:48] <the_giver> i cant find the ubuntu alternate
[08:48] <Penguinsaremyfr1> Anyone know how to resize a panel in gnome so that it does not go all the way across the screen?
[08:48] <xstasi> BrendanM, the live contains the OS, the alternate contains the packages
[08:48] <xstasi> Penguinsaremyfr1, right click on panel - properties
[08:48] <Penguinsaremyfr1> yeah
[08:49] <mirefu> some help with no cdrom issue? cdrom worked during live session, but doesn't after installing to hd
[08:49] <digip1mp> pyrargent: right.  i want to make it work.
[08:49] <xstasi> Penguinsaremyfr1, uncheck "expand"
[08:49] <pyrargent> digip1mp: if you can get a staticly linked psybnc it would likely work
[08:49] <xstasi> mirefu, you have more than one?
[08:49] <Penguinsaremyfr1> now it completely disappeared though
[08:49] <mirefu> one
[08:49] <xstasi> mirefu, strange then
[08:49] <pyrargent> digip1mp: static linking is generally best for server software anyway - it had better run, even if all the shared libs get wrecked
[08:49] <weredragon> It takes awhile to download, the installer.  Only at 64%
[08:49] <PF|Ubuntu> Ive been trying to install the latest legacy glx drivers from the Nvidia website. I get them installed but everytime I edit "nv" to "nvidia" in the xorg.conf, it makes X crash on start up. Any idea what to do?
[08:50] <Gokul> can someone please tell me what package I need to install in ubuntu to access C++ docs using "man", for instance "man new" or "man delete" yeilds nothing on my system?
[08:50] <BrendanM> the_giver, go here, choose alternate install CD: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[08:50] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, installing GLX drivers is not enough
[08:50] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, did you install the LKM too? :)
[08:50] <digip1mp> pyrargent: i just don't have the skills to make a statically linked psybnc
[08:50] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, the what?
[08:50] <xstasi> digip1mp, compile with -static
[08:50] <Penguinsaremyfr1> Nvm, i got it to work
[08:50] <Penguinsaremyfr1> thanks
[08:50] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, Loadable Kernel Module
[08:50] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, sudo m-a a-i nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:50] <xstasi> or something like that
[08:50] <BrendanM> xstasi, the live CD has to include the packages too, right? I mean, it does INSTALL those packages, right?
[08:50] <xstasi> so you can try sudo modprobe nvidia
[08:50] <xstasi> and see if it loads
[08:51] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, oook
[08:51] <pyrargent> digip1mp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2830116&postcount=5
[08:51] <xstasi> BrendanM, actually not
[08:51] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, could I get the actual command?
[08:51] <xstasi> BrendanM, i'm not sure, but i think that it brutally copies the live cd to the hd
[08:51] <xstasi> :)
[08:51] <pyrargent> digip1mp: better to use aptitude but whatever.. get that before you try compiling
[08:51] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, that's it
[08:51] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, ok
[08:51] <xstasi> sudo m-a a-i nvidia-legacy-kernel-source
[08:52] <digip1mp> pyrargent: have all that.
[08:52] <xstasi> then try sudo modprobe nvidia
[08:52] <xstasi> if it works
[08:52] <xstasi> you can switch to nvidia in xorg.conf
[08:52] <BrendanM> So how do I get an extended desktop on my external monitor? Right now I just have a cloned screen.
[08:52] <xstasi> BrendanM, which VGA?
[08:52] <twb> I know about the alternative CD and xubuntu, but is there a way to boot the normal live cd so that the ttys work but not gdm and X?
[08:52] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, command not found
[08:52] <digip1mp> pyrargent: still trying to compile on too recent a version of glibc
[08:52] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[08:52] <Gokul> can someone please tell me what package I need to install in ubuntu to access C++ docs using "man", for instance "man new" or "man delete" yeilds nothing on my system?
[08:52] <xstasi> m-a = module-assistant
[08:52] <xstasi> :)
[08:52] <xstasi> Gokul, not sure, try manpages-dev
[08:53] <twb> xstasi: correct.
[08:53] <xstasi> twb, i wish there was a way
[08:53] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, Im running a TNT Riva, btw
[08:53] <pyrargent> digip1mp: I may be able to build one but it would take a while
[08:53] <xstasi> i didn't find it
[08:53] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, ouch
[08:53] <pyrargent> digip1mp: I'd hate to see you disappear and finish...
[08:53] <Gokul> xstasi: tried it, can't acess any of the usual C++ operators though
[08:53] <pyrargent> digip1mp: build with an ancient glib
[08:53] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, that is one of the infamous wrecked vgas
[08:53] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, Im upgrading soon, but it came with the computer :p
[08:53] <xstasi> Gokul, dunno :|
[08:54] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, Im getting a 6200 series next
[08:54] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, i switched to ATi a couple years ago
[08:54] <digip1mp> pyrargent: ?
[08:54] <BrendanM> xstasi, yes, it's a VGA output. The card is a ATI Radeon Mobility. Right now I'm running the FOSS "ati" driver, but I'd be willing to switch to proprietary drivers if necessary.
[08:54] <xstasi> and i'm happy \o/
[08:54] <Penguinsaremyfr1> Anyone know how to get the ir receiver on a hp dv 600 working?
[08:54] <xstasi> BrendanM, depends
[08:54] <xstasi> BrendanM, if it's <= 9250 the FOSS drivers rock
[08:54] <bluebanana> any ipodlinux users/hackers/geniuses here?
[08:54] <xstasi> if it's like 9550 or higher, the FOSS drivers suck
[08:55] <sauvin> .oO(ipodlinux!?)
[08:55] <pyrargent> digip1mp: um, I'm offering to try to build it under another glib
[08:55] <bluebanana> sauvin, it's linux on the ipod
[08:55] <sauvin> And not an interface TO an ipod?
[08:55] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, anyway, if nvidia-glx-legacy are the correct drivers (and i think so), that's the command you have to issue
[08:55] <z3r0ph3wl> one more question. when i try on ssh open file in local editor of my pc like scite it show me error like this: X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. The application 'scite' lost its connection to the display localhost:13.0; most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed the application.
[08:55] <bluebanana> sauvin, what do you mean?
[08:56] <xstasi> z3r0ph3wl, maybe you're not forwarding X11 over SSH
[08:56] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, said build of the package nvidia-glx-legacy filed
[08:56] <PF|Ubuntu> failed*
[08:56] <z3r0ph3wl> xstasi: i did in .ssh config file
[08:56] <sauvin> My girlfriend has an ipod and a program to run on her mac to interface to it.
[08:56] <xstasi> z3r0ph3wl, anyway, how about using a normal text editor? like jed, nano, emacs, vi, whatever
[08:56] <BrendanM> xstasi, if what is, the card? It's an older card, I think the FOSS drivers are pretty solid.
[08:56] <xstasi> z3r0ph3wl, that's not enough, sshd must support it too
[08:56] <pyrargent> digip1mp: you there?
[08:56] <xstasi> BrendanM, lspci | grep -i vga, check
[08:56] <gluttony_> Flannel, lol, just remembered i have a built in ethernet port
[08:56] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, that's bad news.. pastebin the error
[08:56] <z3r0ph3wl> xstasi: its php files so i need editor like scite
[08:56] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, ok
[08:57] <pyrargent> digip1mp: also have you considered running irc client in a screen?
[08:57] <xstasi> z3r0ph3wl, how bout using rsync?
[08:57] <gluttony_> Flannel, bu i still need help. im following this guide >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[08:57] <pyrargent> digip1mp: means you never have to close it, but it also means ncurses
[08:57] <z3r0ph3wl> xstasi: sshd?
[08:57] <xstasi> z3r0ph3wl, rsync -avz user@host:path localpath
[08:57] <xstasi> you work on it
[08:57] <xstasi> and then
[08:57] <bluebanana> sauvin, no not an interface. it's installing Linux onto the ipod
[08:57] <bluebanana> itself
[08:57] <xstasi> rsync -avz localpath user@host:path
[08:57] <xstasi> :p
[08:57] <BrendanM> xstasi, " ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY"
[08:57] <xstasi> BrendanM, meh
[08:58] <sauvin> And in so doing would you be able to interface with it from a regular PC running linux?
[08:58] <BrendanM> xstasi, indeed.
[08:58] <xstasi> BrendanM, that's all it says?
[08:58] <z3r0ph3wl> xstasi: OK thank u
[08:58] <BrendanM> yeah
[08:58] <PF|Ubuntu> !pastebin
[08:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:58] <xstasi> can you know at least the chipset?
[08:58] <xstasi> like RV300 RV350 or whatsoever
[08:58] <gluttony_> Flannel, you here man?
[08:58] <BrendanM> the full line is "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY"
[08:58] <twb> And why do Ubuntu images take so damn long to boot with qemu, compared to Knoppix?
[08:59] <BrendanM> but that doesn't tell me much. Maybe I should google it.
[08:59] <xstasi> twb, qemu is optimized to run from CD
[08:59] <xstasi> ops
[08:59] <xstasi> s/qemu/knoppix/
[08:59] <twb> xstasi: no, it's not.
[08:59] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32883/
[08:59] <twb> At least, no more than Ubuntu.
[08:59] <xstasi> twb, who knows
[08:59] <twb> Perhaps I'm just remembering when I used to run x86, and kqemu gave a serious speed boost.
[09:00] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, maybe selecting "view" and *then* pasting the whole output it's the choice :)
[09:00] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, :p
[09:00] <xstasi> twb, doesn't kqemu run on other archs?
[09:00] <xstasi> i never read the sources
[09:00] <twb> It runs on amd64.
[09:00] <twb> But it's pretty useless there.
[09:00] <xstasi> twb, what are you running?
[09:00] <twb> amd64.
[09:00] <BrendanM> xstasi, Google seems to indicate it's an "M6" chipset
[09:01] <digip1mp> pyrargent: im here.
[09:01] <sauvin> Is kqemu available for ubunty feisty?
[09:01] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, the build log file is empty
[09:01] <twb> sauvin: NFI, I run Sid.
[09:01] <bullgard4> How to contact the network support of the OFTC network?
[09:01] <twb> Ubuntu is only good enough to give to users :P
[09:01] <xstasi> breanna_, looks like it's well supported by Xorg
[09:01] <sauvin> What's Sid?
[09:01] <digip1mp> pyrargent: irc client in a screen as an alt to psybnc won't do
[09:01] <gluttony_> can someone help me with this wifi problem? i dont understand the guide im following for ndiswrapper
[09:01] <xstasi> s/breanna_/brendanm/
[09:01] <twb> sauvin: Debian
[09:01] <sauvin> Ah.
[09:01] <xstasi> sauvin, download it, compile it
[09:02] <xstasi> BrendanM, google for dual head howto
[09:02] <sauvin> I was leery about doing that.
[09:02] <xstasi> BrendanM, basically you have to duplicate your monitor and screen sections
[09:02] <xstasi> and specify that one stays right of the other one
[09:02] <xstasi> or whatever
[09:02] <rpgsimmaster> Okay someone, I have a particular problem...
[09:03] <BrendanM> xstasi, ok thanks. Will that get me an extended desktop? Clone mode seems to be working automagically.
[09:03] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, that can't be
[09:03] <xstasi> BrendanM, clone mode is the default behavior
[09:03] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, it is
[09:03] <xstasi> BrendanM, i would paste my Xorg config, but i'm using fglrx
[09:03] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, I hit "view" and it gives the path but nothing in the file
[09:03] <rpgsimmaster> It's to do with OpenGL... I think
[09:03] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, the file it says? is it empty?
[09:03] <pyrargent> digip1mp: i'm searching for some psybnc that's prebuilt
[09:03] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, sec
[09:03] <xstasi> rpgsimmaster, how bout asking instead of asking if you can ask? :D
[09:04] <pyrargent> digip1mp: prebuilt with static, but it's likely as others have lots of trouble with it
[09:04] <xstasi> pyrargent, darn, compile it statically
[09:04] <grant> anybody know of a program that will let me use a webcam with yahoo?
[09:04] <stuart-> can i use the | command to use any output of any command to use with any command after it?
[09:04] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, it's empty
[09:04] <xstasi> pyrargent, you issue make, take the last gcc (which should be the -o psybnc)
[09:04] <xstasi> and redo it but adding -static in the end
[09:04] <xstasi> an that's it
[09:04] <rpgsimmaster> Often when I quite an OpenGL programs, I end up in console 8 (you know, Ctrl + Alt + F8)
[09:04] <xstasi> stuart-, yes
[09:04] <digip1mp> pyrargent: pre-built ones don't support oidentd and are based on older versions of psy
[09:05] <rpgsimmaster> And occasionally I end up with a blank screen when I try to change back to X
[09:05] <xstasi> stuart-, --> | <-- takes the stdout of the first and tells to the second via stdin
[09:05] <digip1mp> pyrargent: I couldn't find any that had oidentd support
 Often when I quite an OpenGL programs, I end up in console 8 (you know, Ctrl + Alt + F8)
[09:05] <xstasi> that's strange
[09:05] <rpgsimmaster> which starts putting out random characters, no matter what I press on the keyboard (every time I press a key, a random output appears)
[09:05] <digip1mp> pyrargent: mind if I msg you?
[09:05] <stuart-> xstasi, oh. neat stuff, the bash.
[09:05] <rpgsimmaster> xstasi: I didn't think it was normal :P
[09:05] <xstasi> stuart-, bash rawks
[09:05] <bluebanana> sauvin, http://ipodlinux.org/Main_Page
[09:06] <xstasi> rpgsimmaster, are you using good drivers? do you use XGL?
[09:06] <rpgsimmaster> I'm afraid I use a rather old NVidia card
[09:06] <grant> ************anybody know of a program that will help me use my webcam with yahoo?***************
[09:06] <rpgsimmaster> Hang on
[09:06] <rpgsimmaster> Riva TNT 2
[09:06] <xstasi> argh
[09:07] <PF|Ubuntu> rpgsimmaster, so do I
[09:07] <xstasi> rpgsimmaster, Riva/TNTs are "teh evil"
[09:07] <rpgsimmaster> I know
[09:07] <desertc__> !enter |rpgsimaster
[09:07] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, the file is empty
[09:07] <ubotu> rpgsimaster: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:07] <xstasi> every game README i read says that riva/tnts are not supported by them
[09:07] <rpgsimmaster> ubotu: ?
[09:07] <rpgsimmaster> ubotu: Oh, right... sorry, I'm in several chat windows at once
[09:08] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, rpgsimmaster, you are two unlucky men
[09:08] <rpgsimmaster> Oh, wait, ubotu is a bot
[09:08] <xstasi> that's for sure
[09:08] <rpgsimmaster> xstasi: yeah
[09:08] <PF|Ubuntu> My X crashes every time I go to edit the xorg.conf after installing the new Nvidia legacy drivers
[09:08] <CheeseGardener> I have a quick question. I got 3d chess to work, but whenever I click in the window to move a piece, the screen flickers.  Does anyone know how to fix this?????
[09:08] <pyrargent> digip1mp: yes, i am not registered though
[09:08] <rpgsimmaster> it's actually a bit of a pain - even when it goes into the random black screen, it hasn't frozen, per se - I can still hear music playing, for instance
[09:08] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, Im trying to install Stepmania, it requires OpenGL
[09:08] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, either 3dchess bug or the infamous "Random Error Distribution" - does it happen with other OpenGL stuff?
[09:09] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, stepmania?? it sucks! install pydance!
[09:09] <Blackgoth> CheeseGardener: change the lightbulb
[09:09] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, natively supports DDR files :p
[09:09] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, Ive been playing Stepmania for a long time
[09:09] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, Ive played Pydance also, didnt like iti
[09:09] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, I just want my SM ;_;
[09:09] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, but that doesn't require opengl
[09:09] <xstasi> :p
[09:09] <CheeseGardener> I don't know
[09:09] <xstasi> what is a SM?
[09:09] <pyrargent> digip1mp: I'm like trying to message you, are you there?
[09:09] <rpgsimmaster> Well thanks for the comments, anyway.
[09:10] <CheeseGardener> xstasi, I don't know if it happens with other things.
[09:10] <Blackgoth> xstasi: leather thights. slapping eachother
[09:10] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, Stepmania
[09:10] <PF|Ubuntu> xstasi, I want my Stepmania
[09:10] <xstasi> Blackgoth, if one with your nick tells me, that must be right
[09:10] <wong> how do install ubuntu 7,10?
[09:10] <CheeseGardener> xstasi, so far I only have this issue with 3d chess
[09:10] <pyrargent> digip1mp: I've not got much longer, sorry..
[09:10] <xstasi> PF|Ubuntu, good luck
[09:10] <PF|Ubuntu> wong, 7.10 isnt out yet
[09:10] <wong> i mean alpha 3
[09:11] <wong> i put gksudo update-manager -d and it says your sys is up to date
[09:11] <xstasi> wong, if your tough enough to run 7.10, you are tough enough to know how to do it
[09:11] <xstasi> if you are not, leave it alone :D
[09:11] <sauvin> That's interesting, but why does linux need to go onto an ipod? What advantage would accrue?
[09:11] <wong> sudo update-manager -d
[09:11] <wong> nothing happens
[09:11] <wong> why?
[09:11] <xstasi> sonne@stampede:~$ lsb_release -a |grep ^Rel
[09:11] <xstasi> No LSB modules are available.
[09:11] <xstasi> Release:        7.10
[09:11] <wong> cos its supposed to tell me 7.10 available
[09:12] <xstasi> wong, it's NOT!
[09:12] <pyrargent> digip1mp: how may i test to make sure the psybnc is an actual running binary?
[09:12] <xstasi> wong, 7.10 is not out
[09:12] <nicle> wong: do you update the sources.list?
[09:12] <wong> hmm, havent done that
[09:12] <pyrargent> digip1mp: i mean it starts the server, I can telnet to it's listening port.. but that doesn't help ME much
[09:12] <xstasi> wong, be prepared that the majority if your stuff won't work
[09:13] <wong> im prepared
[09:13] <xstasi> wong, then good luck
[09:13] <wong> i can always reinstall feisty, right?
[09:13] <wong> thanks
[09:13] <digip1mp> pyrargent: note that ut will compile on ubuntu, but unless you get no warnings, it will work but not work over time
[09:13] <xstasi> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse universe main restricted
[09:13] <xstasi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[09:13] <xstasi> put this into sources.list
[09:13] <xstasi> and pray your god if you have one :)
[09:14] <pyrargent> digip1mp: do you need this as some kind of long term service for others?
[09:14] <kaneda_> i have an interesting situation for you
[09:14] <CheeseGardener> how do you uninstall something?
[09:14] <CheeseGardener> if you install through sudo apt-get install
[09:14] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, graphic or text?
[09:14] <wong> sudo aptitude uninstall (packagename)
[09:14] <CheeseGardener> what is uninstall?
[09:14] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, remove
[09:14] <wong> sorry
[09:15] <CheeseGardener> sudo apt-get remove?
[09:15] <wong> sudo aptitude install remove (packagename)
[09:15] <digip1mp> pyrargent: i'd use it on more than a few servers, and I have a feeling others would too
[09:15] <xstasi> wong, what are you saying :D
[09:15] <wong> i think if you can do it through apt-get you can do it through aptitude
[09:15] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, apt-get remove
[09:15] <xstasi> or aptitude remove
[09:15] <xstasi> aptitude is smarter
[09:15] <wong> xstasi: was telling cheesegardener how to uninstall something
[09:15] <xstasi> or so they say
[09:15] <xstasi> wong, and you say "aptitude install remove" ?
[09:15] <xstasi> this means "install the package named 'remove'"
[09:16] <gluttony_> can someone help me with this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[09:16] <wong> mmm, my sis always tells me use aptitude
[09:16] <wong> oops
[09:16] <wong> bit tired now
[09:16] <xstasi> wong, you have a geek sister?
[09:16] <xstasi> you lucky :D
[09:16] <wong> yup, shes studying comp science
[09:16] <desertc__> !enter |xstasi
[09:16] <ubotu> xstasi: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:16] <pyrargent> digip1mp: oh, you mean if I could get a binary distro of psybnc working?
[09:16] <xstasi> why i never meet these girls?
[09:16] <xstasi> desertc__, i'm beginning to think you're a bot too
[09:17] <rpgsimmaster> lol
[09:17] <digip1mp> pyrargent: yup
[09:17] <xstasi> desertc__, anyway, i press enter whenever i finish typing a phrase, not half a phrase :)
[09:17] <xstasi> that's not an "enter abuse"
[09:17] <gluttony_> i keep getting this error:gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[09:17] <gluttony_> tar: Child returned status 1
[09:17] <gluttony_> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[09:17] <gluttony_>  for this command: tar -zxvf ndiswrapper-1.42.tar.gz
[09:17] <wong> hmm, forgot where sources.list is
[09:18] <xstasi> gluttony_, file ndiswrapper-1.42.tar.gz
[09:18] <xstasi> wong, /etc/apt
[09:18] <sauvin> It's\nenter abuse\nif your idea\nof a phrase\ntend to be\na bit\n on the short\nside.
[09:18] <xstasi> sauvin, do you think it does?
[09:18] <sauvin> If you'll notice, I tend to be abusive in the other direction: long-ass sentences.
[09:18] <gluttony_> xstasi, ndiswrapper-1.42.tar.gz: ASCII text
[09:19] <xstasi> sauvin, there's people who's worse than me and you, be happy with what you are
[09:19] <sauvin> It's easier to read, IMO. Scrolling, especially in busy channels, is a consideration.
[09:19] <xstasi> gluttony_, a .tar.gz shouldn't be ascii text
[09:19] <kraut> moin
[09:19] <xstasi> sauvin, i think splitting paragraphs with moderation makes readability easier
[09:19] <gluttony_> dang it...
[09:20] <rpgsimmaster> It depends on how busy the channel is, really
[09:20] <wong> warning: could not initiate dbus is it normal when i initate update-manager -d?
[09:20] <sauvin> Glutton, view it with less and see what it is.
[09:20] <xstasi> wong, are you sure you aren't messing with something you can't handle?
[09:20] <gluttony_> sauvin, um, im still getting used to ubuntu
[09:20] <xstasi> wong, i had troubles upgrading to gutsy, and i run Debian since when i was 13 in 2001.. :)
[09:21] <sauvin> Mmkay, open the file with gedit or something and see what it contiains.
[09:21] <wong> im not messing with something i cant handle... normally people type gksudo update-manager -d, and it tells them that 7.10 alpha 3 is available
[09:21] <wong> not in my case
[09:21] <sauvin> If you can READ it, if it looks like real text, it's not a .tar.gz.
[09:21] <wong> funny
[09:21] <xstasi> wong, normally, it *DOESN'T* happen
[09:21] <xstasi> :)
[09:21] <dresden> hi guys i have a serious mounting problem
[09:21] <pyrargent> digip1mp: may be my first chance to make a Klik - able server
[09:21] <wong> dresden: go ahead
[09:22] <dresden> ive been trying to use ISO's i mounted and i kept having problems, so i kept remounting them, and none of them umount!!!!!!!!!
[09:22] <xstasi> wong, no distribution is MAD enough to suggest people to upgrade their system to a beta
[09:22] <dresden> i have a bunch of identical mounted ISO files on my HDD!!!!!!
[09:22] <dresden> on my desktop and on my computer folder
[09:22] <digip1mp> pyrargent: not sure I understand what you are talking about?
[09:22] <wong> well, if you take a look at the 7.10 tribe 3 page...
[09:22] <gluttony_> sauvin, gimme a link to that place where i can upload text. i lost it
[09:23] <dresden> guys i have 6 mounted ISOs i cant umount
[09:23] <dresden> somebody help
[09:23] <xstasi> dresden, reboot, and please remember that abused exclamative punctuation makes people nervous
[09:23] <sauvin> !pastebin
[09:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:23] <dresden> ok il reboot it
[09:23] <dresden> il be back
[09:23] <xstasi> wong, yeah, if you are already using 7.10 alpha
[09:24] <T-Connect> How I check on controller buttons settings?
[09:24] <xstasi> with update-manager you can upgrade to tribe 3
[09:24] <pyrargent> digip1mp: Klik is a package manager
[09:24] <xstasi> but NOT if you are using stable
[09:24] <xstasi> :)
[09:24] <gluttony_> sauvin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32884/
[09:24] <wong> to quote 7.10 tribe 3 aplha page..
[09:24] <wong> If you upgrade from feisty, please make sure that you have update-manager 0.59.23 from feisty-proposed installed. Then run "update-manager -d".
[09:24] <xstasi> gluttony_, bummer
[09:24] <wong> tried that too
[09:24] <wong> nothing
[09:24] <xstasi> wong, yeah, that's bad information
[09:25] <wong> so, they've removed it?
[09:25] <sauvin> Gluttony, that's an HTML file. It's not whatever was supposed to be in the .tar.gz.
[09:25] <gluttony_> so, what did i do wrong? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[09:25] <xstasi> wong, can i ask you -why- you want to upgrade?
[09:25] <[andres] > I have this frustrating problem with a amd 64 laptop. I've failed to install with the normal live cd, and now have successfully installed a console-only system using the alternate cd. but when I try to boot up the system from the hd, it freezes on the "Loading hardware drivers..." step, and doesn't give me any logs or anything. what can I do?
[09:25] <CheeseGardener> how do I check to see if I have unused packages and libraries????
[09:25] <nox-Hand> Installed Compiz Fusion but now it has no Window B orders - idaes why?
[09:25] <xstasi> [andres] , try booting with acpi=off noapic nolapic
[09:25] <xstasi> [andres] , sometimes it works
[09:25] <wong> i want to test 7.10
[09:25] <xstasi> nox-Hand, run --> gtk-window-decorator --replace
[09:25] <[andres] > xtasi: will try that straight away
[09:25] <xstasi> wong, so do what i said to sources.list
[09:26] <T-Connect> Anyone know how to check out the buttons settings on controllers?
[09:26] <CheeseGardener> how do I check to see if I have unused/excess packages and libraries that aren't being used at all????
[09:26] <wong> lets see... third party software,updates, authentication, stats, software.... hmm, where to put
[09:26] <nox-Hand> xstasi: I know how to get metacity back - I want Compiz with window borders though:)
[09:26] <nicle> wong: after u upgrade the soueces.list suggested by xstasi, u can try"apt-get update; apt-get upgrade-dist"
[09:26] <rpgsimmaster> Hang on, CheeseGardener
[09:26] <rpgsimmaster> There may be a way
[09:26] <xstasi> nox-Hand, gtk-window-decorator is NOT metacity
[09:26] <gluttony_> sauvin. so, what did i do wrong? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[09:26] <xstasi> nox-Hand, fscking do what i said
[09:26] <xstasi> :P
[09:27] <dresden> hi THANKS rebooting worked -- that is so strange???
[09:27] <CheeseGardener> ok
[09:27] <nox-Hand> xstasi: Done
[09:27] <xstasi> nox-Hand, works?
[09:27] <dresden> thank you i never reboot my computer (i just log in and out) and it fixed it
[09:27] <[andres] > xtasi: worked like a charm... :)
[09:27] <CheeseGardener> rpgsimmaster, hopefully something will work.
[09:27] <T-Connect> input.joypad1.up = "joypad0.up" might not be input.joypad1.up = "joypad0.up" on Ubuntu.
[09:27] <sauvin> Gluttony, I'm looking.
[09:27] <xstasi> [andres] , this means you won't user acpi nor apic
[09:27] <Tremitos> yo
[09:28] <dresden> thanks xstasi
[09:28] <xstasi> [andres] , try booting with only one of these options
[09:28] <[andres] > what does that mean?
[09:28] <xstasi> and discover which one of the three is the right one
[09:28] <Tremitos> tell me
[09:28] <nox-Hand> xstasi: Not working, does nothing
[09:28] <gluttony_> sauvin, sorry, just wanted to make sure you saw
[09:28] <xstasi> [andres] , battery control, fan control, power saving and stuff, they won't work
[09:28] <nicle> wong: sorry, it should be "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:28] <sauvin> I'm looking. Did you do the wget thing?
[09:28] <gluttony_> yes
[09:28] <nox-Hand> Hang on got idae
[09:28] <sauvin> moment...
[09:28] <xstasi> [andres] , so try disabling as less as possible, discover which one of the three is the good one, and omit the other two :)
[09:28] <rpgsimmaster> CheeseGardener: Are you Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[09:28] <wong> wait for a moment..
[09:29] <CheeseGardener> Ubuntu
[09:29] <nicle> wong: and good luck!!!
[09:29] <rpgsimmaster> Okay, if you are in synaptic
[09:29] <rpgsimmaster> and go (on the left hand side at the bottom) to Status
[09:29] <xstasi> nox-Hand, maybe you want to try emerald
[09:29] <xstasi> :D
[09:29] <gluttony_> sauvin. was i supposed to do "mkdir ~/.driver" then "mv ndiswrapper-whatever ~/.driver"?
[09:30] <rpgsimmaster> Sorry, I'm typing in multiple lines here, but:  Select the installed option, then go to applications you know you don't need anymore, right click, and tick Complete Removal
[09:30] <CheeseGardener> ... I'm not sure which ones I need anymore
[09:30] <sauvin> I'm looking to see why your .tar.gz is an html file rather than a container.
[09:30] <dragon1711> hi there
[09:30] <CheeseGardener> I'm not sure which libaries are needed
[09:30] <rpgsimmaster> CheeseGardener: You just wanna uninstall libraries?
[09:30] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, try deborphan
[09:30] <sauvin> And I can't do it with wget because I get a "20 redirections exceeded" error.
[09:30] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, anyway, aptitude tells you if stuff is no longer needed, and often it uninstalls it automatically
[09:31] <nox-Hand> xstasi: Nope - it was because I was using 16 bit colour, not 24. Changed that and it worked.
[09:31] <CheeseGardener> I see, so as long as it was through sudo-apt get
[09:31] <xstasi> meh
[09:31] <CheeseGardener> it will know?
[09:31] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, yep
[09:31] <CheeseGardener> I see.
[09:31] <CheeseGardener> ok
[09:32] <CheeseGardener> thanks
[09:32] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, anyway
[09:32] <xstasi> can i have a cheese tree?
[09:32] <T-Connect> My God. Nobody know how to check out the controllers buttons settings. XD
[09:32] <xstasi> pecorino possibly :D
[09:32] <gluttony_> sauvin. should i run the wget again?
[09:32] <xstasi> T-Connect, i'm not even sure if anyone understood what the hell you are asking :|
[09:32] <[andres] > xtasi: with only acpi=off everything still works, is that good?
[09:32] <xstasi> [andres] , it is
[09:32] <xstasi> now try disabling less ACPI as you can
[09:32] <dragon1711> P4 2800, 1GB, 160GB, ATI Radeon 9800 pro, ubuntu 7.04
[09:32] <sauvin> Gluttony_, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482
[09:32] <xstasi> [andres] , wait a sec
[09:32] <CheeseGardener> but I mean more like... how do I check to see if libraries aren't being used anymore?
[09:33] <CheeseGardener> I may have installed some extra ones
[09:33] <dragon1711> how do I install ati driver
[09:33] <CheeseGardener> while trying to get programs to work.
[09:33] <T-Connect> Your confuse then. You never heard of controllers settings?
[09:33] <sauvin> There's ONE caveat: the version in that link is more recent than the ndiswrapper talked about in the link you gave me to the directions.
[09:33] <rpgsimmaster> CheeseGardener: try the deporphan recommended above by xstasi
[09:33] <digip1mp> pyrargent: i gotta crash.  thanks much for trying to help.
[09:34] <gluttony_> sauvin, so what do i need to do
[09:34] <CheeseGardener> ok it says it doesn't exist though
[09:34] <sauvin> Go to the link I gave and download the stable ndiswrapper.
[09:34] <digip1mp> pyrargent: i'll idle in this chan and check for msgs when I get up
[09:34] <rpgsimmaster> Google it!
[09:34] <gluttony_> sauvin, i did
[09:34] <T-Connect> On windows there is a controller testing that shows the buttons settings. On Ubuntu what shows the buttons on controllers?
[09:34] <sauvin> And then follow the directions in the link you gave me. I can't help with those; I know nothing of ndiswrapper.
[09:34] <dragon1711> where can i get ati 9800 install (that would work)
[09:34] <rpgsimmaster> Anyway...
[09:35] <gluttony_> sauvin, so just replace the 1.42 with 1.47?
[09:35] <CheeseGardener> nevermind I found it
[09:35] <xstasi> [andres] , http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BootParms?show_comments=1
[09:35] <desertc__> Live Free or Die: there are worse fates than death.
[09:35] <xstasi> look at ACPI section
[09:35] <sauvin> Gluttony, that'll PROBABLY work very well.
[09:36] <nox-Hand> How does one untar .tar.bz2 to a specific destination?
[09:36] <xstasi> [andres] , read that and try something
[09:36] <xstasi> nox-Hand, tar jxvf -C /path/ file.tar.bz2
[09:36] <nox-Hand> xstasi: Thanks
[09:37] <T-Connect> There is a mouse and keyboard option. But no controllers option.
[09:37] <xstasi> T-Connect, i guess that's game-dependant
[09:37] <T-Connect> I xheck.
[09:37] <gluttony_> sauvin, based on the guide, can you tell where ~/.driver needs to be made?
[09:37] <xstasi> gluttony_, the ~ suggests your home
[09:37] <xstasi> :)
[09:37] <nox-Hand> xstasi: bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[09:37] <xstasi> ~/.driver = /home/youruser/.driver
[09:37] <xstasi> nox-Hand, unlucky you!
[09:37] <gluttony_> xstasi, o ok. i made mine on the desktop...
[09:38] <CheeseGardener> I'm confused, how do I use GtkOrphan??????
[09:38] <nox-Hand> xstasi: Thanks :)
[09:38] <T-Connect> game-dependant? Where that?
[09:38] <xstasi> gluttony_, if you type ~/.driver, it will make it on your $HOME
[09:38] <CheeseGardener> it says priorities are "optional"
[09:38] <CheeseGardener> but gnome-compiz-manager isn't orphaned, is it?
[09:38] <xstasi> T-Connect, i mean, i think you can configure the buttons in the game where you want to use them
[09:38] <gluttony_> o ok. see, im still getting used to linux, xstasi
[09:38] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, it doesn't say what packages are orphaned, it just says what he thinks you no longer need
[09:39] <`mac`> hello,
[09:39] <T-Connect> I know that. But BSNES won't let me setup my controllers.
[09:39] <T-Connect> pSX will those.
[09:39] <CheeseGardener> Oh.... is it safe to remove these packages?
[09:39] <T-Connect> though
[09:39] <`mac`> wondering can someone plz tell me how i can install edit?
[09:39] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, definitely not
[09:39] <xstasi> unless you know what you are doing
[09:39] <CheeseGardener> then how  do I know if they're no longer used?
[09:39] <xstasi> T-Connect, again, unlucky
[09:39] <sauvin> What's this fascination with identifying unused libraries?
[09:39] <CheeseGardener> as in no longer used by any programs?
[09:39] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, examine them
[09:40] <CheeseGardener> Oh... does it matter if I have extra libraries?
[09:40] <xstasi> apt-cache show package
[09:40] <sauvin> It never has for me.
[09:40] <CheeseGardener> I thought it would be like... windows's registry
[09:40] <CheeseGardener> and mess things up with extra things
[09:40] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, it's not
[09:40] <CheeseGardener> oh
[09:40] <Traeumt> H all
[09:40] <xstasi> you can have 189823798753091837918321 packages installed
[09:40] <T-Connect> Maybe byuu didn't configure thhe setup right. I will report to byuu about the BSNES controllers issue.
[09:40] <CheeseGardener> so just leave them there?
[09:40] <xstasi> and you won't have troubles, except for disk space
[09:40] <xstasi> :)
[09:41] <Traeumt> Guys i have a small problem can u help me ?
[09:41] <sauvin> Good grief... I don't think Linux even HAS anything as screwed up and monolithically unworkable as the Windows Registry.
[09:41] <BaD_CrC> !ask | Traeumt
[09:41] <ubotu> Traeumt: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:41] <CheeseGardener> lol
[09:41] <xstasi> sauvin, yeah.. the GNOME registry
[09:41] <CheeseGardener> ok
[09:41] <xstasi> in older GNOME versions
[09:41] <xstasi> :)
[09:41] <sauvin> I don't use gnome and so can't comment :D
[09:41] <CheeseGardener> well, does anyone know how to fix my 3D chess at all?
[09:42] <Traeumt> I use a intel core 2 duo 2.8 and it works as 2.4ghz atm cause of some power managment application dunno well how can i make it 2.8
[09:42] <gordonjcp> xstasi: even that's not too bad
[09:42] <CheeseGardener> I get the packages installed but the screen flickers.
[09:42] <T-Connect> A few months until a new Ubuntu is release.
[09:42] <xstasi> Traeumt, just do stuff
[09:42] <CheeseGardener> and disappears sometimes when I click on the peices
[09:42] <Traeumt> stuff ?
[09:42] <xstasi> Traeumt, yes, when your load is higher, the powersaving daemon rises the CPU power
[09:43] <xstasi> if there's no reason to stat at 2.8, it tries to consume as less as possible
[09:43] <Traeumt> but i dont want saving i have shit load of money to spend
[09:43] <xstasi> s/stat/stay/
[09:43] <`mac`> what was the other chan? ubuntu-talk??soemthing like that?
[09:43] <MVLinux> hey i got these in whine i'm trying to start Ubuntu kernel 2.6.20-15-generic    (BUG:soft lockup detected on CPU#0! )what i should do ?
[09:43] <Traeumt> and i need to use my cpu with full capacity :D
[09:43] <xstasi> Traeumt, disable powersaving then
[09:43] <Traeumt> where i couldnt find it mate
[09:43] <xstasi> Traeumt, do you read me or what? you have full power whenever you need it!
[09:43] <Traeumt> i am a starter
[09:43] <xstasi> you are not "capped"
[09:43] <xstasi> see?
[09:43] <smash_> hello everyone
[09:44] <newbe5> ooo, ummm, hi all
[09:44] <Traeumt> and u still didnt get me mate
[09:44] <StoneNewt> could some kind of stale lock file cause compiz to exit with no reason?
[09:44] <newbe5> anyone available to help with some pathetic beginner questions?
[09:44] <xstasi> Traeumt, the system detects that you need power, and gives you power. if you don't need it, it doesn't give you.
[09:44] <Traeumt> how can i disable this system
[09:44] <Traeumt> i am just asking this
[09:44] <xstasi> Traeumt, i don't know
[09:44] <Traeumt> okey :)
[09:44] <xstasi> and i don't even see why you should do it
[09:44] <smash_> hello any one know about complete fair scheduler for linux
[09:44] <xstasi> i have 2.24 Ghz (1.86 overclocked \o/)
[09:45] <xstasi> but i'm actually at 1.60
[09:45] <CheeseGardener> quick question though: is it normal for synaptics to sometimes, when you install something (and then uninstall after) for it to leave the libaries and only uninstall the program????
[09:45] <xstasi> if i load heavy stuff, the CPU goes full speed
[09:45] <xstasi> if i don't, it doesn't
[09:45] <xstasi> i don't see what's the problem with that :)
[09:45] <c10ck> lokalz
[09:45] <CheeseGardener> cause I remember installing something with tons of libraries, and it only deleted the program.
[09:45] <CheeseGardener> is that normal?
[09:45] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, absolutely normal
[09:45] <CheeseGardener> why is that?
[09:45] <Seoke> I need two things: A) How do I print out my computers specs (I.E. Video RAM, RAM, HD Size, Etc) B) How do I print out my hardware in a list  I need both of these things to happen in a terminal so I can copy them directly to a webpage. Any help is appreciated
[09:45] <puxton> ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/. <--- How do I fix this problem?
[09:45] <xstasi> because you said "remove this package"
[09:45] <Traeumt> i see wish there was a choice to disabe this power managment system
[09:45] <xstasi> and he removed it
[09:46] <gluttony_> sauvin, hit another snag, this time about unziping a .exe
[09:46] <CheeseGardener> oh, it doesn't remove the libaries associated with it?
[09:46] <xstasi> Traeumt, there surely is, you just don't need to disable it.. anyway, search for it
[09:46] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, no
[09:46] <CheeseGardener> is there a way to do that?
[09:46] <sauvin> gluttony, um, ....?
[09:46] <xstasi> gluttony_, unzipping a .exe?
[09:46] <Seoke> puxton: in terminal gksu nautilus then go to the folder right click and set permissions
[09:46] <smash_> any one know about cfs
[09:46] <xstasi> you mean like a winzip self extracting?
[09:46] <Traeumt> To disable power managment system
[09:46] <xstasi> CheeseGardener, sure, but who remembers?
[09:46] <sauvin> xtasi, some archives on Windows platforms are self-extracting; they'd be in .exe form.
[09:47] <gluttony_> xstasi, sauvin, Or you can pick up the r129832.EXE file from Dell driver disc,and unzip the file.
[09:47] <gluttony_> $cd ~/.driver/wifi
[09:47] <gluttony_> $unzip -a r129832.EXE      # or $unzip -a R140747.EXE
[09:47] <xstasi> sauvin, that's what i was asking
[09:47] <newbe5> ok, im gonna shoot with the first stupid question... I'm trying to install Adobe PDF. The RPM package doesn't seem to work, so I'm trying to use the installer thingy, but it's saying it doesn't have permission to create /usr/love/Adobe/Adobe Reader 7.1, so I try to make the folder myself, but the create folder option is greyed out. I can't see any obvious way of raising my priviledges to make the folder? Somewhere here im being thic
[09:47] <CheeseGardener> oh... so there isn't really a way to do it through synpatics?
[09:47] <xstasi> gluttony_,
[09:47] <xstasi> unzipsfx file.exe
[09:47] <xstasi> newbe5, why the hell you want to install adobe acrobat reader
[09:47] <sauvin> xtasi, I did NOT know that. Thank you!
[09:48] <xstasi> newbe5, anyway, run the installer by commandline
[09:48] <newbe5> I have tried that
[09:48] <puxton> Seoke: I can't find /var/lib there
[09:48] <Seoke> puxton: You get my message?
[09:48] <newbe5> the point isn't neccesarily that I'm trying to install acrobat, it's that I can't make this folder
[09:48] <Seoke> puxton: hit the arrow key all the way up
[09:48] <gluttony_> xstasi, unzipsfx:  cannot find myself! [unzipsfx] 
[09:48] <Seoke> puxton: it will take you to your computers files
[09:48] <[andres] > xtasi: just curious. are you paid to help people here?
[09:48] <xstasi> gluttony_, well that's not a winzip self extracting
[09:48] <[andres] > you should be...
[09:48] <Seoke> puxton: just press it like 5 times xP
[09:48] <xstasi> [andres] , yes i should
[09:48] <xstasi> :)
[09:48] <xstasi> i'm not though
[09:48] <sauvin> You can't make that folder as a regular user because it's write-protected to anybody who isn't root.
[09:48] <puxton> Seoke: ah okay
[09:49] <[andres] > a shame. thanks so much.
[09:49] <xstasi> [andres] , i actually got a HEAVY LOT of stuff for free, an entire operating system and a whole lotta software
[09:49] <Seoke> puxton: Had the same problem the other day =P took a long time to figure it out haha
[09:49] <CheeseGardener> is there a way to uninstall the libaries that come with  a program through synpatics?? or does synpatics just keep the libararies???
[09:49] <gluttony_> xstasi, im just trying to follow this guide and its not working.....
[09:49] <sauvin> And it's probably not "/usr/love"; it's probably "/usr/lib".
[09:49] <Seoke> puxton: usually 755 permissions work best
[09:49] <newbe5> yea I figured that, but why can't I just click a button to elevate my priviledges and do it? do I actually have to log in as root to make changes there?
[09:49] <puxton> Seoke: Okay...
[09:49] <xstasi> [andres] , i paid noone for that. so i pay my due by helping people, aiding the opensource scene in the way i can
[09:49] <sauvin> newbe5, yes.
[09:49] <Seoke> I need two things: A) How do I print out my computers specs (I.E. Video RAM, RAM, HD Size, Etc) B) How do I print out my hardware in a list  I need both of these things to happen in a terminal so I can copy them directly to a webpage. Any help is appreciated
[09:50] <xstasi> gluttony_, there's a reciproc hate between me and wifi, sorry :|
[09:50] <gluttony_> xstasi, god, i missed something, the command im trying is only for getting the driver from a cd
[09:50] <xstasi> Seoke, use phpsysinfo for the web page
[09:50] <CheeseGardener> is there a way to uninstall the libaries that come with  a program through synpatics?? or does synpatics just keep the libararies???
[09:50] <gluttony_> xstasi, reciproc?
[09:50] <newbe5> ok, so the only way I can install acrobat is to log in as root hu? is tehre somewhere I SHOULD be installing stuff to that doesn't require me doinf that?
[09:50] <xstasi> gluttony_, how the hell do you say it in english?
[09:50] <puxton> Seoke: How come it didn't ask me the password to change it? :O
[09:50] <sauvin> Reciprocal? Mutual?
[09:50] <xstasi> yes, mutual!
[09:51] <gluttony_> oh
[09:51] <xstasi> sorry, i'm not english mothertongue :)
[09:51] <sauvin> Xtasi, what is your native language?
[09:51] <Deliveran> Hi, I'm looking for help getting started on a problem...
[09:51] <stuart-> okay now that i have installation, setup, GUI, and basic shell commands down, what's next to learn in ubuntu?
[09:51] <xstasi> sauvin, italian
[09:51] <Deliveran> My bootloader and filesystem got corrupted by fsck.
[09:51] <xstasi> stuart-, whatever you want to learn
[09:51] <sauvin> Bon, ben, alors, on pourrait partager un mot ou deux :)
[09:51] <xstasi> stuart-, how about learning bash scripting?
[09:51] <xstasi> sauvin, that's french
[09:51] <Seoke> puxton: You're probably already logged in as a superuser
[09:51] <stuart-> xstasi, i don't know where to go from here. bash scripting sounds neat
[09:51] <xstasi> stuart-, google for "alien bash tutorial"
[09:52] <xstasi> the BEST bash tutorial ever
[09:52] <puxton> Seoke: okay
[09:52] <stuart-> xstasi, cool. thanks.
[09:52] <xstasi> i learnt from that
[09:52] <xstasi> :)
[09:52] <Deliveran> If my filesystem only contains 5 files named after my kernels how do I retrieve files from inside?
[09:52] <xstasi> Deliveran, ...from inside?
[09:52] <Traeumt> xstasi i removed a powermanagment aplication i thnk its fixed :D
[09:52] <newbe5> OK, so apparently I shouldn't be installing things into /usr/local ? Where should I install things to that doesn't require me to be logged on as root?
[09:52] <Traeumt> how can look for real cpu speed in ubuntu ?
[09:52] <Deliveran> Inside the giant files that represent my fscked filesystem.
[09:52] <xstasi> Traeumt, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:52] <Seoke> puxton: Any more help needed?
[09:52] <sauvin> I know, but there are enough similarities between our two languages that I can guess at some of the troubles you'll have with English.
[09:53] <Traeumt> thanks :)
[09:53] <puxton> Seoke: No, thanks. It worked now :)
[09:53] <Seoke> puxton: No problem ^_^
[09:53] <xstasi> Traeumt, anyway, i think that the powersaving stuff needs to be done via bios
[09:53] <xstasi> Traeumt, normally bios have this option just to make happy those who don't understand what the f*ck powersaving is :)
[09:53] <Deliveran> Any idea how my filesystem turned into giant files named after my kernels?
[09:53] <xstasi> sauvin, i don't know /anything/ about french
[09:54] <xstasi> what you typed sounds to me like perl :)
[09:54] <Traeumt> i see :D
[09:54] <mpt> What is the total number of programs offered in Add/Remove Applications?
[09:54] <sauvin> You know it's a Romance language, and you recognise it when you see it. You can probably even guess what I'm talking about, if not actually understand it.
[09:54] <mpt> (not synaptic)
[09:54] <xstasi> sauvin, maybe, by reading it
[09:55] <sauvin> $this || $that && do_mysub("road apples!");
[09:55] <xstasi> sauvin, how comes a french speaks english here? i know you hate it :p
[09:55] <CheshireViking> Seoke, try using the "hwinfo" command in terminal to give you details of your hardware - if the scroll is too big, use "hwinfo --short"
[09:55] <T-Connect> I install this and got an error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32886/
[09:55] <Seoke> CheshireViking: Thanks
[09:55] <sauvin> Not all French people hate English speaking people, or even the English language.
[09:55] <cafuego> Why not?
[09:55] <Deliveran> Is there somewhere I can go to get help with total filesystem meltdown under linux?
[09:56] <sauvin> Describe "total filesystem meltdown".
[09:56] <xstasi> Deliveran, your church
[09:56] <xstasi> sauvin, my esteem for french people is growing for the first time :p
[09:56] <dimebar> Deliveran: do you have your important stuff backed up?
[09:57] <pyrargent> digip1mp: no luck, I have never cross compiled before
[09:57] <Deliveran> If I did Dimey I wouldn't be so unhappy :(
[09:57] <T-Connect> So what I'm missing? Error opening /dev/js0!
[09:57] <xstasi> T-Connect, are you sure your joypad is supported
[09:57] <xstasi> ?
[09:57] <T-Connect> I guest not.
[09:57] <sauvin> Heh. Ich habe nie gesagt, ich bin franzoesich.
[09:58] <HipotermiA> sd
[09:58] <Deliveran> So none of you guys have ever seen a 6GB 2.6.22 Custom file?
[09:58] <T-Connect> Too old right?
[09:58] <MasterShrek> Deliveran, 6 gigs?!
[09:58] <gordonjcp> xstasi: from my experience the French don't hate the English *language*, they just don't like the English *people* very much
[09:58] <xstasi> sauvin, doch ich bin franzoesich nicht, und ich bin deutsch nicht, so ich kann nicht verstehen was du sagst
[09:58] <gordonjcp> xstasi: which is fair enough, we don't like them much either
[09:58] <sauvin> If that thing is a kernel, it's at least ten years too SOON in the history of computer science...!!
[09:58] <newbe5> can someone confirm something for me? from what I understand, when im not logged in as root, there's some parts of the filesystem im just never going to be able to make any changes to, is that correct? wouldn't I just be better logging on as root all the time?
[09:58] <xstasi> gord, lol
[09:58] <Deliveran> MasterShrek.
[09:59] <Traeumt> Xstasi: i couldnt find that cpu freq shower :(
[09:59] <academ1c> newbe5: no, it wouldn't be
[09:59] <xstasi> Trae, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:59] <Deliveran> I've been using some patches to cross write between ntfs and ext2/3
[09:59] <xstasi> just do it
[09:59] <xstasi> and read
[09:59] <MasterShrek> !sudo | newbe5
[09:59] <ubotu> newbe5: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:59] <sauvin> newbe5, correct. This is a Good Thing.
[09:59] <xstasi> hey Hobbsee :)
[09:59] <newbe5> ty
[09:59] <Deliveran> Then FSCK came back and complained that 2 things had rights to certain files and asked me if I should fix it.
[09:59] <Deliveran> I said Sure?!
[09:59] <MasterShrek> newbe5, you dont want to be root, it protects your system against you
[09:59] <Deliveran> Then Grub started failing error 1.5
[09:59] <wanu> how do i setup my laptop to work with my wireless network card?
[09:59] <newbe5> I tried using sudo on this installer im trying to run and it says it can't find the type
[10:00] <academ1c> newbe5, also, Ubuntu won't allow you to login to root from the ugi
[10:00] <gordonjcp> xstasi: a bheil Gidhlig agad?
[10:00] <academ1c> text based installer?
[10:00] <limpung> hi
[10:00] <dimebar> Deliveran: can you mount it from a livecd?
[10:00] <xstasi> gordonjcp, (0x2b)||!(0x2b)
[10:00] <sauvin> .oO(irlandais?)
[10:00] <xstasi> read shakespeare.
[10:00] <nox-Hand> Which file has the gnome session file - what starts at start of gnome
[10:01] <Traeumt> cpu MHz         : 2800.000
[10:01] <Traeumt> yay done it :)
[10:01] <newbe5> sudo INSTALL: Command not found
[10:01] <xstasi> Traeumt, happy now? :)
[10:01] <Traeumt> yeah lol
[10:01] <gordonjcp> Deliveran: sounds not too bad, if it's just grub that's screwed
[10:01] <newbe5> that's the problem im having unfortunately :(
[10:01] <Hobbsee> hi xstasi
[10:01] <academ1c> newbe5: that command doesn't exist afaik
[10:01] <gordonjcp> Deliveran: can you see your files when you boot off a livecd?
[10:01] <dimebar> newbe5: sudo apt-get install ... ?
[10:01] <academ1c> What are you trying to install?
[10:01] <stuart-> if i might want to explore other distro's, what's the best thing to learn in ubuntu before i try the other one? i know bash will be important. but i think i'll need more with distros like slackware/gentoo
[10:01] <newbe5> the install file is called INSTALL
[10:02] <academ1c> okay
[10:02] <Shyde> newbe5 try "sudo ./INSTALL"
[10:02] <academ1c> well, if you want to execute it:
[10:02] <academ1c> sudo ./install
[10:02] <academ1c> heh, beaten :P
[10:02] <dimebar> newbe5: what are you trying to install?
[10:02] <newbe5> ahhhh, ok :) sorry, REALLY new to this, like, the last hour :P
[10:02] <faileas> stuart-: shouldn't matter all that much actually
[10:02] <mrmonday> what is the command to allow only yourself to view your /home? (including blocking root from gaining access)
[10:02] <academ1c> lol, okay
[10:02] <sauvin> I sincerely doubt that, not on a unix platform. INSTALL is usually a file you READ.
[10:02] <dimebar> newbe5: usually files called 'INSTALL' just contain instructions about how to installit :P
[10:02] <academ1c> it's all okay
[10:02] <pretender> can anyone tell me how to close a post in ubuntu forums
[10:02] <Deliveran> Gordonjcp, that's the next step.
[10:02] <poop_flusher> stuart:  learn about config files for common programs
[10:02] <nox-Hand> Anyone know? Gnome Session Startup file?
[10:02] <gordonjcp> mrmonday: you can't block root from anything
[10:02] <stuart-> faileas, meaning i could just make the jump now?
[10:02] <gordonjcp> mrmonday: that's the whole point of root
[10:03] <Deliveran> I plugged the HD into an OLPC and looked in it with bash.
[10:03] <academ1c> nox-Hand
[10:03] <academ1c> yeh
[10:03] <faileas> stuart-: command line+ compiling apps + figureing out config is whats important
[10:03] <stuart-> poop_flusher, any guides or pages?
[10:03] <academ1c> go system>preferences>session
[10:03] <nox-Hand> academ1c: No, the FILE
[10:03] <academ1c> add commands from there, pretty self-explanatory
[10:03] <Deliveran> I found 2 files about the size of my old filesystem...
[10:03] <faileas> stuart-: i mean the distro is unimportant ;p
[10:03] <academ1c> oh sorry
[10:03] <nox-Hand> academ1c: I need to change it BEFORE gnome start
[10:03] <nox-Hand> academ1c: :)
[10:03] <ZeroXR> Any late night gamers up? I am getting an odd crash with Gridwars 2
[10:03] <academ1c> go no idea
[10:03] <nox-Hand> No worries
[10:03] <mrmonday> gordonjcp, I'm sure I saw a command for doing it somewhere...
[10:03] <academ1c> *got
[10:03] <gordonjcp> ZeroXR: late night?  it's 9am...
[10:03] <academ1c> it's 6 PM :P
[10:03] <ZeroXR> It's 3am for me, lol
[10:03] <gordonjcp> mrmonday: doing what?
[10:03] <academ1c> lol
[10:03] <newbe5> ahhh, ok I was getting confused, I could double-click the file and it would run the installer in the command-line window, but it couldn't do what it needed to install the files because it didn't ahve the right privledges, am I right to guess that "./" means "this is an install file" ?
[10:04] <gordonjcp> newbe5: nope
[10:04] <academ1c> almost
[10:04] <gordonjcp> newbe5: means "thing from this directory"
[10:04] <poop_flusher> stuart-, not sure of any off the top of my head, but when I switched I just learned about things as they come.  Perhaps you could dual-boot Ubuntu and whatever you're wanting to learn in case you run into a lot of trouble
[10:04] <ZeroXR> Gridwars 2 crashes for me, but in terminal it spits out this message after it crashes "appstub.linux signal handler 11"
[10:04] <mrmonday> gordonjcp, for protecting my home from everyone
[10:04] <gordonjcp> mrmonday: you can't stop root looking at it
[10:04] <gordonjcp> mrmonday: and other users shouldn't be able to see it anyway
[10:04] <sauvin> I forgot what a signal 11 is...
[10:04] <poop_flusher> signal 11 is sigterm
[10:04] <xstasi> sauvin, SIGSEGV
[10:04] <dresden> Hi, I have tried an entire day to install SimCity4Deluxe (windows) on Ubuntu!!!!!!! I've googled forever to solve my problem.....SimCIty4Deluxe is perfectly compatible with Wine/Cedega (I have both), and my SimCity4Deluxe CD's are ISO's on my hard drive which I have mounted with AcetoneISO2, and halfway through the installation it demands disc 2!!!! Somebody help please!!!
[10:04] <poop_flusher> oops
[10:05] <stuart-> faileas, but compiling stuff seems to vary from system to system, was wondering if there was a universal thing to learn between distro's. e.g bash dosen't change. thinking of making the jump anyways
[10:05] <raf256> wtf
[10:05] <newbe5> ahhh, ok :) thanks a lot for the help guys, I got it installed now I think :)
[10:05] <sauvin> In other words, a segfault.
[10:05] <raf256> russia is bombing Georgia
[10:05] <academ1c> cool, well done
[10:05] <xstasi> sauvin, exact
[10:05] <ZeroXR> sauvin, a segfault?
[10:05] <gordonjcp> dresden: install it from your original CDs
[10:05] <xstasi> Segmentation fault
[10:05] <sauvin> Segmentation fault.
[10:05] <dresden> i dont have them
[10:05] <dimebar> dresden: or burn them to cdrw
[10:05] <dresden> i bought this game forever ago
[10:05] <ZeroXR> Is there a way around the segfault?
[10:05] <sauvin> It means that an application tried to access memory for which it doesn't have permission.
[10:05] <dresden> i dont like CDs !!!! (im new to linux)
[10:06] <dresden> on windows i just mount and use my CDs which I store on my HDD
[10:06] <dresden> i have a laptop so it would suck to carry CDs around
[10:06] <stozinger86_4828> hallo
[10:06] <soundray> dresden: you can do that in Linux, too:
[10:06] <sauvin> dresden, do you know about dd? Do you have a BIG hard drive in your laptop?
[10:06] <xstasi> ZeroXR, imagine the kernel picking up an MK47 and brutally shooting the program while screaming "DIEEEE!!!!!!!!"
[10:06] <soundray> !mountiso | dresden
[10:06] <ubotu> dresden: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:06] <dresden> I have USB drives
[10:06] <ZeroXR> lol, xstasi
[10:06] <dresden> ok thanks il write those things down
[10:06] <xstasi> ZeroXR, that's usually a bug in the prog
[10:06] <academ1c> dreseden: you want to mount it on a usb drive?
[10:06] <xstasi> :)
[10:07] <sauvin> Then you can make ISO images and mount them just as you would with Alcohol under Windows.
[10:07] <academ1c> dresden: mount at /media/<usb name>
[10:07] <dresden> i already have them both mounted with acetoneISO2
[10:07] <ZeroXR> dang it... I really want to be able to get a high score without the game crashing on me
[10:07] <dresden> and it doesnt see disc 2
[10:07] <sauvin> Acetone!?
[10:07] <xstasi> acetoneiso
[10:07] <xstasi> lol
[10:07] <academ1c> googled it?
[10:07] <dresden> yeah i was recommended AcetoneISO
[10:07] <dresden> no somebody in chat told me
[10:07] <sauvin> Gah.
[10:07] <academ1c> okay
[10:07] <dresden> i guess Acetone is my problem?
[10:07] <academ1c> give appdb.winehq.com a look, if you haven't already
[10:07] <newbe5> ok, here's another question then, now I kinda get about sudo from the command line, is there no way to elevate priviledges from the GUI? does it have to be done from the shell?
[10:07] <stozinger86_4828> spricht AUCH JEMAND DEUTSCH HIER
[10:07] <sauvin> mabye, maybe not. I'm certainly no expert in Windows things.
[10:08] <dresden> i looked at appdb and my game is on there
[10:08] <stozinger86_4828> ???
[10:08] <xstasi> dresden, Acetone is an african word that means "i can't type mount -o loop"
[10:08] <xstasi> :)
[10:08] <soundray> !de | stozinger86_4828
[10:08] <ubotu> stozinger86_4828: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:08] <dresden> hahaha xstasi
[10:08] <raf256> wtf, is russia starting a new war?
[10:08] <academ1c> newebe5: no, you can run sudo gedit (or whatever app you want) from the command line to give you root privileges
[10:08] <dresden> raf256 what do you mean??
[10:08] <academ1c> to the gui app
[10:08] <dresden> russia starting a new war?
[10:08] <stuart-> anyone have any idea why ubuntu seems less responsive compared to XP on my system? (linux more reliable though)
[10:08] <sauvin> xtasi: windows doesn't make it that easy.
[10:08] <soundray> raf256: this doesn't belong here (dresden)
[10:08] <raf256> dresden: russia dropped bomb on Georgia coutry
[10:08] <stuart-> burning CD's are slow and unrar'ing as well.
[10:08] <dresden> wow
[10:08] <academ1c> also can do things like:
[10:08] <academ1c> sudo nautilus
[10:08] <xstasi> stuart-, psychology
[10:08] <dresden> raf256 can i have a link then il stop asking about it
[10:08] <xstasi> stuart-, it happened to me too
[10:09] <xstasi> after a few time, i had the same impression about windows
[10:09] <academ1c> to run the the nautilus (window manager thingy) as root
[10:09] <gluttony> so, i have learned that ndiswrapper =ed big waste of time for me
[10:09] <academ1c> stuart-: how new is your windows install?
[10:09] <mecannotread> ??? is rusia starting a war on georgia county
[10:09] <wanu> how do i setup my laptop to work with my wireless network card?
[10:09] <raf256> dresden:  http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/08/07/russia.georgia/index.html
[10:09] <Shyde> newbe5: there's a graphical frontend for sudo, with alt-f2 you can launch programs with root privileges like "gksudo nautilus"
[10:09] <academ1c> i found windows super responsive on a clean install but a few days later it was *awful* again, unlike ubuntu
[10:09] <stuart-> xstasi, yeah what's up with that. the windows close slower, alt+tab changes slower, but i don't have much to complain since lniux does it's job. just wonder why since linux is supposed to be cooler than windows
[10:09] <dresden> thank you raf256
[10:09] <desertc__> !wireless |wanu
[10:09] <ubotu> wanu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:09] <xstasi> stuart-, it is
[10:09] <xstasi> wonder why it has that behavior
[10:10] <stuart-> academ1c, have been using windows most of the time before making the jump full time
[10:10] <academ1c> stuart-: okay, fair enough. i did a reinstall a few months ago (was running awful), almost in the same state a few weeks/months later
[10:10] <xstasi> mecannotread, local news don't say anything about that
[10:10] <gluttony> does anyone know anything about ndiswrapper, or hp laptops and ubuntu?
[10:10] <desertc__> derek: give me another shout out
[10:10] <academ1c> I'd better go now... Stupid school homework lol, bye everyone
[10:10] <xstasi> desertc__, you are not a bot!!
[10:11] <desertc__> waaa! I am found out
[10:11] <newbe5> aha! so alt+f2 is gui sudo?
[10:11] <stozinger86_4828> hallo
[10:11] <xstasi> !enter | desertc__
[10:11] <ubotu> desertc__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:11] <xstasi> :D
[10:12] <gluttony> stozinger86_4828, hallo, wie gehts?
[10:12] <soundray> stozinger86_4828: hier ist nur Englisch zulssig. /join #ubuntu-de bitte
[10:12] <xstasi> well
[10:12] <stuart-> xstasi, gotta give credit to linux that 30 secs = 30 secs. in windows, sometimes it's 2 secs, sometimes it's 2 minutes.
[10:12] <soundray> gluttony: please.
[10:12] <xstasi> i'm going afk
[10:12] <xstasi> regards to anyone
[10:12] <xstasi> see you :)
[10:12] <stuart-> k cya
[10:12] <gluttony> soundray, ?
[10:13] <soundray> gluttony: !de
[10:13] <gluttony> !soundray
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <Shyde> newbe5: not exactly, with alt-f2 you can run programs. If type in "firefox" it'll run firefox (if installed). If you put "gksudo firefox" it will ask for the sudo password and run firefox with root privileges
[10:13] <pyrargent> digip1mp: found a possible solution though there are a few warnings
[10:14] <stuart-> does anyone here run ubuntu mostly, or purely from text just for the fun of it?
[10:14] <pyrargent> digip1mp: i simply built with gcc-2.95, does not use glibc anymore AFAICT
[10:14] <Shyde> newbe5: be careful with running programs with root privileges though. I wouldn't run firefox ever with them ;)
[10:14] <gluttony> !de
[10:14] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:14] <phenom> Can anyone tell me,, why in the world totem would have broke(stops playing video, has sound) after installing Compiz
[10:15] <phenom> ? :)
[10:15] <phenom> vlc works and such.
[10:16] <phenom> In fact, it only breaks when compiz is not running.
[10:16] <pyrargent> digip1mp: let me know if it works - please note that the autoconfig.c is in tools
[10:16] <pyrargent> digip1mp: you have to change the line where it says CC=gcc to CC=gcc-2.95
[10:16] <pyrargent> digip1mp: then make clean, make
[10:17] <azrael_> Hello
[10:18] <puxton> Has anyone here used bitlbee?
[10:18] <desertc__> hello
[10:18] <wanu> how do i set winxp to be the os to be defaulted on boot (grub)
[10:18] <desertc__> !grub
[10:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:18] <lill-me_> Hi all
[10:18] <Sache> f u
[10:19] <howlingmadhowie> wanu: have a look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:19] <azrael_> looking for some help installing a program, first time ever installed program on linux, need to install Rosegarden and a USB interface driver
[10:19] <desertc__> !ohmy |sache
[10:19] <ubotu> sache: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:19] <jeduan> phenom, try opening gstreamer-properties and in video > output change it to xwindows (no xv)
[10:19] <soundray> !software | azrael_
[10:19] <ubotu> azrael_: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[10:19] <lill-me_> Well, how you all doing? :)
[10:19] <Sache> nny
[10:19] <Sache> funny
[10:19] <lill-me_> Huh?
[10:20] <pyrargent> azrael_: sudo aptitude install rosegarden
[10:20] <soundray> azrael_: rosegarden is in the repositories. What do you mean by USB interface driver? Those come with the kernel normally.
[10:20] <lill-me_> Ay caramba!
[10:20] <howlingmadhowie> beechawawa :)
[10:20] <lill-me_> =)
[10:20] <azrael_> i got a Tascam US 122 interface card
[10:21] <soundray> azrael_: what's it for?
[10:21] <azrael_> recording audio
[10:21] <lill-me_> I have a question, i have bought me one off these "new mouses" to my computer.
[10:21] <lill-me_> But
[10:21] <stuart-> eh how does chmod work with letters again? i know how to use the numbers. man chmod doesn't really explain the letters part. how do i use the chmod +rw filename to target group, or user?
[10:21] <lill-me_> I cant install the software
[10:22] <howlingmadhowie> azrael_: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122
[10:22] <phenom> jeduan: Great thank you sir, that fixed me up :)
[10:22] <soundray> azrael_: should be supported by the USB audio module. See if you can activate it in System-Preferences-Sound
[10:22] <Djoef> hello :)
[10:22] <jeduan> phenom, great, no problem
[10:23] <Sithe> Hey
[10:23] <Djoef> question : I have my Nvidia drivers working fine, but i want to rotate one of the two screens, how do i do that (i only figured out to rotate both)
[10:23] <Sithe> Anyone here know about installing ubuntu on a computer with ATI video card?
[10:23] <stuart-> does anyone else feel a weird exciting vibe everytime you learn something new about linux? haha.
[10:23] <soundray> !anyone | Sithe
[10:24] <ubotu> Sithe: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:24] <Sithe> What? lol
[10:24] <howlingmadhowie> stuart-: learning about linux is better than chocolate, if only because it's not quite as sticky
[10:24] <Djoef> well i did ask a real question i  guess :p
[10:24] <puxton> 10:24:30AM -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server localhost port 6667 [Connection refused] 
[10:24] <stuart-> howlingmadhowie, haha i gotta save that metaphor
[10:24] <soundray> Sithe: you've got to say what the problem is before anyone can help.
[10:25] <puxton> 10:24:30AM -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server localhost port 6667 [Connection refused]  <--- How do I fix that? I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
[10:25] <fsckr> how do you uninstall something you have compiled if makeuninstall is not available?
[10:25] <desertc__> !effects |djoef
[10:25] <ubotu> djoef: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[10:25] <Sithe> I dont have a problem. Someone told me computers with ATI video cards are hard to get linux to install on.
[10:25] <Myrtti> puxton: why are you trying to connect to your own computer
[10:25] <soundray> stuart-: it's an allegory, not a metaphor
[10:25] <howlingmadhowie> puxton: do you have anything else on 6667? some sort of torrent client?
[10:25] <soundray> !ati | Sithe
[10:25] <ubotu> Sithe: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:26] <Sithe> thank you
[10:26] <jeduan> linux will probably install fine, the problem would be to get accelerated graphics, but this is getting easier all the time
[10:26] <puxton> howlingmadhowie: No. I tried a different port and still doesn't work.
[10:26] <puxton> Myrtti: I'm running an IRCd.
[10:26] <stuart-> soundray, i knew something was wrong with my sentence
[10:26] <Sithe> I've got an ATI Radeon X800 GTO. Is this compatible with Ubuntu?
[10:27] <soundray> stuart-: :)
[10:27] <newbe5> Shyde: Thankyou very much for your advice :) I have made myself an icon for running nautilus with elevated priviledges now :) I know I probably shouldn't do it that way, but it's just for learning, and at least I know how it works now :P I mainly wanted to know for installers etc :) Thanks again!
[10:27] <howlingmadhowie> puxton: sounds like you should have a look in your ircd.conf, or whatever it's called.
[10:27] <Djoef> desertc__: i dont want special 3D effects
[10:27] <puxton> howlingmadhowie: I did, and its setup correctly
[10:27] <Djoef> or that my windows appear soft
[10:27] <dresden> guys i missed your recommendations, whats a GOOD linux program that mounts ISOs??
[10:27] <Djoef> just rotate resolution of 1 screen
[10:27] <soundray> !mountiso | dresden
[10:27] <ubotu> dresden: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:27] <dresden> ok
[10:28] <dresden> are those bots
[10:28] <sauvin> dresden, linux COMES with a great program. it's called "mount".
[10:28] <soundray> !ubotu
[10:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:28] <desertc__> djoef: rotating the screens is 3d effects
[10:28] <dresden> yeah but im trying to mount a game i copied to my HDD because i use a laptop
[10:28] <fsckr> how do i uninstall something I have compiled when make uninstall is not available?
[10:28] <Sithe>  I've got an ATI Radeon X800 GTO. Is this compatible with Ubuntu?
[10:28] <Djoef> hmm i think it isnt
[10:28] <sauvin> so? Mount can mount an iso image, too.
[10:28] <Sithe> Really now...
[10:28] <dresden> ok how do i do it
[10:29] <dresden> wait i mean i KNOW how to mount something
[10:29] <hacked_kernel> I'm using sysstat; When running "sar -d" it say: "Requested activities not available in file" which means that it is trying to display activities that the kernel itself is unable to provide, do I have to recompile the kernel to use a specific module?
[10:29] <dresden> but it sais insert disc 2
[10:29] <Djoef> i did it before without beryl, just by editing xorg.conf
[10:29] <dresden> when im halfway through install it sais "insert disk number 2"
[10:29] <sauvin> OK, when that happens to me, I umount the iso and mount the second iso to the same mountpoint.
[10:29] <sebbe091> Can anyone help me plz ? :) I'm in some huge trouble...
[10:29] <newbe5> ubotu: I'm new, so I probably shouldn't jump on this, but would I be right in thinking that I could make myself a launcher using that line so that I could mount iso's through the gui?
[10:29] <desertc__> Djoef, I am not thinking you did
[10:29] <dresden> thanks sauvin il try again
[10:29] <dresden> this is so ahrd
[10:29] <Nekomusume> problem: i want to upgrade from gaim to pidgin. i seem to have to uninstall gaim in order to install pidgin, but it tells me i have to do it via synaptic package manager.  SPM tells me that i'll also beremoving nautilus-sendto and ubuntu-desktop if i remove gaim and gaim-data. i don't know what those do, and whjle I doubt anything important will be damaged by uninstalling gaim, i thought i should check first...
[10:29] <MadViolinist> Sithe - i've got an X800 GTO - I had some troubles with it, and I don't think i'm using it's full power atm
[10:29] <desertc__> !ask |sebbe091
[10:29] <ubotu> sebbe091: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:29] <newbe5> ooo, a bot :P
[10:30] <sebbe091> ok :)
[10:30] <sebbe091> My problem is:
[10:30] <drone4four> my default toolbars in OOo writer are text only.......in the customize menu, i select "icons only" but nothing changes
[10:30] <drone4four> wtf?
[10:30] <soundray> Sithe: generally, if you buy nvidia you'll have fewer problems.
[10:30] <diafic> brb, restarting X
[10:30] <drone4four> ah ha! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419679
[10:31] <desertc__> Nekomusume: You don't want to "out guess" Ubuntu - just use the defaults
[10:31] <sebbe091> Yesterday, i installed Kubuntu Desktop. But i wasn't satisfied and decided to go for GNOME. Im new to linux. Today, i can only run it in 640x480, and i don't know how to uninstall Kubuntu. Sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop didnt work :/ Because when i reboot, the Kubuntu logo is the bootscreen.
[10:31] <desertc__> sebbe091, reinstall
[10:32] <sebbe091> the whole os ?
[10:32] <desertc__> sebbe091, What
[10:32] <sauvin> Yes.
[10:32] <Nekomusume> desertc__:  do you mean i should delete those, or that i shouldn't update to a newer version of the IM?
[10:32] <soundray> !usplash > sebbe091, see ubotu's private message for changing the boot logo
[10:32] <desertc__> sebbe091, What's the problem, you just installed, right?
[10:32] <sauvin> And then made a mess of it.
[10:32] <desertc__> Nekomusume, Right, you chose Ubuntu to help you select versions that worked well together.  Don't try to out-smart them.
[10:32] <howlingmadhowie> puxton: can you paste it on pastebin? another possibility would be to check if you have a firewall running (iptables -L)
[10:33] <sebbe091> the problem is
[10:33] <sebbe091> i can't get it back to "Ubuntu" and i can't get it to run in 1280x1024
[10:33] <wanu> how do i find my mac address in ubuntu?
[10:33] <puxton> howlingmadhowie: paste what?
[10:33] <hacked_kernel> I'm using sysstat; When running "sar -d" it say: "Requested activities not available in file" which means that it is trying to display activities that the kernel itself is unable to provide, do I have to recompile the kernel to use a specific module?
[10:33] <soundray> wanu: ifconfig
[10:34] <howlingmadhowie> puxton: your ircd.conf. i'd like to have a look.
[10:34] <desertc__> sebbe091, I am not sure what you mean by you can't get it back - just pop the CD in the drive and re-install.  Back up your stuff first, of course.
[10:34] <azrael_> ok, heres my current problem, Rosegarden requires cmake, ok, so i did the apt get install cmake, now I'm attempting to figure it out, i have the tar.bz2 unpacked to my home folder, whats the command line to get cmake to compile rosegarden for install
[10:34] <desertc__> sebbe091, I am drunk - so take what I say with a grain of salt
[10:34] <jeduan> Nekomusume, you don't have to uninstall gaim in order to use pidgin, you can have both programs installed
[10:34] <soundray> azrael_: please don't compile rosegarden
[10:34] <azrael_> ?
[10:35] <azrael_> arent you supose to?
[10:35] <soundray> azrael_: you can install it with 'sudo apt-get install rosegarden'
[10:35] <desertc__> Seveas, and american - you never know what trouble we might get you into
[10:35] <azrael_> hmmm
[10:35] <azrael_> ok] 
[10:35] <howlingmadhowie> azrael_: why are you compiling rosegarden and not using the version in the repository?
[10:35] <azrael_> cuz im a newbie
[10:35] <soundray> azrael_: that's why I asked ubotu to give you the !software factoid
[10:35] <azrael_> ok, I'm going to try apt get
[10:36] <sebbe091> Thx everybody... i'll try ><
[10:36] <sebbe091> Cu
[10:36] <soundray> azrael_: I'll do it again, please read the stuff behind the links
[10:36] <soundray> !software | azrael_
[10:36] <soundray> !repos | azrael_
[10:36] <ubotu> azrael_: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[10:36] <Nekomusume> desertc__: actually, it tells me i can't. pidgin IS gaim (just a more recent version), and when i try and install it, it conflicts with gaim and gaim-data, hense my having to remove them.
[10:36] <ubotu> azrael_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:36] <desertc__> guys, don't try to out-guess Ubuntu - just use the Ubuntu defaults - admit you are newbies and use what Ubuntu recommends!
[10:36] <howlingmadhowie> azrael_: go to "system->administration->synaptic packet manager", find rosegarden in the list, click on it and select apply changes or install or whatever it's called. if you can't find rosegarden in the list, get back to us :)
[10:36] <desertc__> There are other distros for you if you want more control: Fedora - Gentoo
[10:36] <soundray> azrael_: also, make sure you install the one you really want. There are rosegarden, rosegarden2 and rosegarden4 packages.
[10:37] <jeduan> Nekomusume, I used the www.getdeb.net debs and pidgin is running fine along with gaim
[10:37] <azrael_> whats the difference betwenn the versions
[10:37] <mahrellon> How can I kill X if "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" or "init 3/telinit 3" doesnt let me?
[10:37] <soundray> azrael_: find out for yourself. The package manager can give you descriptions.
[10:37] <howlingmadhowie> azrael_: you'll have to go to http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/ to find that out
[10:37] <sauvin> mahrellon, why do you want to kill x?
[10:38] <desertc__> If YOU are installing packages from the command line or -- gasp -- trying to compile the application yourself -- then you are using the WRONG DISTRO
[10:38] <mahrellon> sauvin: My NV driver doesnt work all of a sudden so I need to try to install a new one.
[10:38] <azrael_> ok, good to know
[10:38] <azrael_> I'm learning....slwoly
[10:38] <soundray> desertc__: using the command line on ubuntu is Just Fine(TM)
[10:38] <howlingmadhowie> desertc__: just out of curiosity, what have you been drinking?
[10:39] <sauvin> Furniture polish, no doubt.
[10:39] <azrael_> no booze today
[10:39] <mahrellon> lol
[10:39] <desertc__> azrael_, you have made a good first step in admitting your limitation - now realize that Ubuntu has made everything available for your in Synaptic.  If it is not there for you, then file a bug report
[10:39] <azrael_> so getting most all programs you just do the sudo apt get?
[10:40] <soundray> azrael_: either that, or synaptic
[10:40] <howlingmadhowie> azrael_: you have taken your first step into a much larger world :)
[10:40] <desertc__> azrael_, no - please use Synaptic
[10:41] <sebbe091> Is ubuntu 6.10 a huge difference from 7.1?
[10:41] <sauvin> mahrellon, I don't know. Why don't you try the folks in #kubuntu?
[10:41] <sebbe091> or 7.04..
[10:41] <howlingmadhowie> mahrellon: the easiest way is ctrl-alt-backspace. it may automatically respawn (i think ubuntu does this)
[10:41] <sauvin> howlingmadhowie,  that doesn't kill x, it just causes it to restart.
[10:41] <mahrellon> howlingmadhowi, it does respawn. =(
[10:41] <jeduan> azrael_, sudo apt-get and synaptic both do the same thing, the difference is one does it on the command line and the other on a graphical interface. you will find it is common that different programs do the same thing on different interfaces
[10:42] <howlingmadhowie> mahrellon: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[10:42] <newbe5> ok next question :P I've managed to find a program that emulates ntlmaps, and it's working great, so at the moment I have to run the program after I log in to ubuntu. Is there any way of getting it to run in the background on startup?
[10:42] <mahrellon> sauvin, sure I guess I could try but I'm running Ununtu 7.04, altough I had to start Kubuntu-desktop now to be able to chat.
[10:42] <azrael_> i think i need KDE first to make rosegarden work
[10:42] <azrael_> I'm using gnome
[10:42] <n00dl3> mahrellon: Start killing things that look like they run x or kde or w/e xP
[10:42] <howlingmadhowie> azrael_: you'll need a lot of kde libraries, but synaptic will figure this out for you and install the right ones
[10:42] <sauvin> mahrellon, I was thinking in terms of the folks in #kubuntu being more knowledgeable in things X.
[10:42] <desertc__> Users get into so much trouble by following directions on websites that instruct them to install packages, change repositories, run commands as root, or compile source code.  DON'T FREAKIN DO IT.
[10:42] <n00dl3> mahrellon: ps can help you xP
[10:43] <mahrellon> lol
[10:43] <soundray> azrael_: no, you don't need KDE
[10:43] <LLzzJJ> mahrellon: TRY: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/x11-common stop
[10:43] <Nekomusume> jeduan - thnx muchly. worked getting them from there.
[10:43] <howlingmadhowie> mahrellon: drop to a shell (ctrl-alt-f(1-6)), ps aux | grep kde, sudo kill <pid from kde>
[10:43] <azrael_> ok, I'm going to install KDE and then come back in here once I'm done, Thx for help folks
[10:43] <mahrellon> LLzzJJ, thanks! I'll give it a try
[10:43] <jeduan> newbe5: system->preferences->sessions and add the program there
[10:43] <wingot> Hey
[10:43] <wingot> I've got a ipw3945
[10:43] <mahrellon> howlingmadhowie, and thanks to you too =)
[10:44] <wingot> And trying to get wpa to work :)
[10:44] <sauvin> Killing KDE doesn't necessarily kill X, does it? I mean, KDE runs on TOP of X, as I understood it.
[10:44] <howlingmadhowie> i know one shouldn't say the word "newbie", but it is quite amusing so see people really not getting package management
[10:44] <n00dl3> sauvin: true that
[10:44] <howlingmadhowie> sauvin: or easier: /etc/init.d/kde stop
[10:44] <K-4U> hi, could somebody please tell me how to install WINE with an apt-get?
[10:45] <n00dl3> sudo apt-get install wine
[10:45] <wingot> K-4U: apt-get install wine
[10:45] <K-4U> okay, install before it
[10:45] <K-4U> thanx!
[10:45] <K-4U> lol
[10:45] <howlingmadhowie> lol
[10:45] <newbe5> jeduan: Thanks! :)
[10:46] <Jakobsen> Can somebody help me configuring the filter options in lvm.conf ?
[10:46] <howlingmadhowie> yep, how do you <b>install</b> <b>wine</b> with <b>apt-get</b> :)
[10:46] <Jakobsen> I need /dev/drbd0 to be visible too..
[10:46] <newbe5> jeduan: Where  in the filesystem should I put programs like that?
[10:47] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone here use gmailfs, trying to fiqure out if its cli only
[10:47] <Enselic> newbe5: how do you mean? you'd use existing programs there, no?
[10:47] <Blindraven> Good evening lads/gals.. whats happening :)
[10:48] <jeduan> newbe5: if it's a program you installed with synaptic, it should be on /usr/bin, if you compiled a program, it might be in /usr/local/bin or in /opt
[10:48] <n00dl3> !hi Blindraven
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi blindraven - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <sauvin> gmailfs sounds like a fuse thing.
[10:48] <howlingmadhowie> Paddy_EIRE: if it mounts gmail as a drive then you'll be able to access it through any program
[10:48] <Paddy_EIRE> sauvin: it is
[10:48] <tkitty> executing grub hd0 failed
[10:48] <Paddy_EIRE> howlingmadhowie: ok, have any ideas on how reliable this is in general
[10:49] <sauvin> If it's anything like gtalk, it'll wink in and out a lot.
[10:49] <howlingmadhowie> Paddy_EIRE: i've never used it. it will however be a/ slow and b/ fully dependent on an internet connection. so i'd just use it for back-up if i used it myself
[10:49] <n00dl3> tkitty: Is that exactly what it said? o.O
[10:49] <Paddy_EIRE> damn it....looking for reliable online storage to backup to
[10:50] <sauvin> What kinds of things you gonna be backing up?
[10:50] <jeduan> does it have the 10mb file limit or does it split the files?
[10:50] <newbe5> Enselic: It's a program I've downloaded, and it's currently sitting in a folder on my desktop. Now that I'm happy it';s runnign the way I want it to, I would like it to run silently (currently it opens in a terminal window when I double-click on it) whenever I start ubuntu. I just wondered where I should put the program on the drive (program files etc).
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> sauvin: some of my setup files for various OS's and maybe alot of pdfs
[10:50] <Enselic> newbe5: what program is it?
[10:50] <sauvin> maybe you could just email them to your gmail account.
[10:51] <gReaper33> .opt
[10:51] <newbe5> ntlmaps
[10:51] <Paddy_EIRE> sauvin: aint there a file size limit on attachments
[10:51] <sauvin> You know, I've no damned idea.
[10:51] <hacked_kernel> How can I know which process is doing the greatest IO operations?
[10:51] <howlingmadhowie> Paddy_EIRE:this makes pretty interesting reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GmailFS
[10:51] <Enselic> newbe5: if you want to put the binary in a system wide dir, put it in /opt/bin   or /usr/local/bin
[10:51] <sauvin> Attachment size limits... I've not been troubled with those in a WHILE.
[10:51] <kauer> newbe5: System->Preferences->Sessions->Startuo Programs->New etc.
[10:51] <n00dl3> Paddy_EIRE: It's open to everyone though, and uhmm prob hacked
[10:52] <tkitty> n0013 well yeah
[10:52] <newbe5> kauer: Yep, got that, just wondered where I should have it run from :)
[10:52] <Enselic> newbe5: for non-system wide binaries, ~/bin is common
[10:52] <howlingmadhowie> Paddy_EIRE: depends how the smtp is configured. but i'd be surprised if there's a file size limit
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> n00dl3: so my info wont be private on there
[10:52] <newbe5> Enselic: Thanks, I'll put it in /usr/local/bin/ntlmaps would that be ok?
[10:52] <Enselic> newbe5: yeah
[10:52] <linux_> someone know where i can download program called "envy"
[10:52] <newbe5> tyvm :)
[10:53] <kauer> newbe5: Where you put it on the disk is pretty much irrelevant - /usr/local/prog is common, /opt is also common. If only you will be using it, a subdirectory undr your home dir would be appropriate.
[10:53] <desertc__> Tell your local commissioner that you want free software access - tell your librarian that you want Ubuntu on the shelf
[10:53] <riaal_> Im having a real problem, ubuntu wont boot. I need to edit a file but I can't get access to the commandline? When I boot the live cd non of my local file is there? what to do?
[10:53] <n00dl3> Paddy_EIRE: No
[10:53] <wingot> How do I remove a wireless network from the Wireless Networks (roaming) thing?
[10:53] <Paddy_EIRE> !envy | linux
[10:53] <ubotu> linux: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:53] <wingot> I set one up manually, but the name has since changed, and it still shows up
[10:54] <newbe5> kauer: I justb wondered if there was a kind of "best practice" place. Like in windows, you CAN install stuff to pretty much wherever you want, but it's usualyl best practice to put it in program files, so you know where everything is, I just wondered if there was something like that on linux.
[10:54] <Enselic> riaal_: mount the partitions
[10:54] <riaal_> Enselic: okey, thanks
[10:54] <LLzzJJ> riaal_: when you start the live cd, click places then click computer
[10:54] <sauvin> heh.. the local librarians in MY little cornpatch town would stutter, stammer and ask "Um... what on earth is Linux?"
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> howlingmadhowie: is there any other free service out there for sending large files to..?
[10:55] <desertc__> wingot: please direct your comment to the person helping you so we can keep it organized
[10:55] <danv12> hello folks
[10:55] <sauvin> newb5: in other distributions of linux, I tend to put stuff I build in /usr/local
[10:55] <danv12> just installing ubuntu for the first time :)
[10:55] <desertc__> !hi |danv12
[10:55] <ubotu> danv12: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:55] <wanu> trying to use gedit to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst, but it's not letting me - how do i rectify this
[10:55] <danv12> desertc__: tq :)
[10:55] <desertc__> Welcome to your Free Software!
[10:56] <LLzzJJ> wanu: start gedit with gksu: gksu gedit
[10:56] <Paddy_EIRE> thx n00dl3
[10:56] <wingot> desertc__: No one is helping me yet
[10:56] <riaal_> LLzzJJ: What? where do I click that? :S
[10:56] <jeduan> gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:56] <raf256> what in the f*** name is wrong with ubuntu?
[10:56] <kauer> newbe5: There are  so many criteria for "best" though. For example, you may not want those binaries in your backup regime, or you may not want them on the same partition as your boot binaries, or you it may be something for just one user, or or, or, or.... What *I* do isinstall such stuff in a dirctory of my own making, /usr/lokal, then I know that everything under that s from me, not an Ubuntu package.
[10:56] <danv12> well i've used *nix is all forms, but ubuntu just kinda finishing the install
[10:56] <linux_> someone know where i can download this file envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu2_all.deb ?
[10:56] <desertc__> danv12: Live Free or Die: there are worse fates than death.
[10:56] <rdygo> I can't reinstall my GRUB, please someone help me..
[10:56] <desertc__> !ohmy
[10:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:57] <desertc__> !ask |rdygo
[10:57] <ubotu> rdygo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:57] <sauvin> Hrm... software platforms with New Hampshire license plates... wotta concept!
[10:57] <danv12> desertc__: hehehe, there are some things i need to test to see if it works, for eg. being able to mount RW a truecrypt volume on NTFS etc, so some fun to be had :)
[10:57] <desertc__> sauvin, I am from New Hampshire.  You want to start something about it???
[10:57] <sauvin> Hey, if I can't swear, does this mean I can't mention Redmond's M*S* Wi*?
[10:58] <azrael_> ok back
[10:58] <sauvin> desertc, if I could, I'd move back to Nashua in a heartbeat.
[10:58] <rdygo> ok. i tried re-install my GRUB. it installed, but when i choose a kernel(or other OS) , It gives "Error 15: File not found."
[10:58] <LLzzJJ> riaaL_: when the live cd boots to the desktop, a menu should appear at the top of the screenm
[10:58] <desertc__> sauvin, Nashua is for suckers.
[10:58] <riaal_> LLzzJJ: got it, thanks
[10:58] <azrael_> alright, got rosegarden up and running, i only got one problem when it loaded, this came up
[10:58] <soundray> I'm compiling some in-house software, and I'm getting an "...error: 'fabs' was not declared in this scope". The software compiles under Mandrake (glibc 2.3) just fine. What am I missing?
[10:58] <azrael_> Rosegarden was unable to find a high-resolution timing source for MIDI performance.
[10:58] <azrael_> This may mean you are using a Linux system with the kernel timer resolution set too low. Please contact your Linux distributor for more information.
[10:58] <CheshireViking> !envy > linux_, please see ubotu's comment about envy, however you can download it from http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[10:58] <raf256> why the fuck ubunbtu sees my ATA driver as /dev/sda ?!  ubuntu 7.054 64 bit
[10:58] <raf256> 7.04
[10:58] <PriceChild> !ohmy | raf256
[10:59] <ubotu> raf256: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:59] <rdygo>  i tried re-install my GRUB. it installed, but when i choose a kernel(or other OS) , It gives "Error 15: File not found."
[10:59] <LLzzJJ> azrael_: do you need the low latency kernel installed for this?
[10:59] <PriceChild> raf256, what's wrong with that?
 you might have to do some reseach beyond this channel
[10:59] <raf256> PriceChild: ATA is hd* not sd*
[10:59] <MARIUSmarius> i have 1 integrated and 1 creative sound card.
[10:59] <azrael_> i think so, need low latency for recording things
[10:59] <soundray> raf256: get up to date, and stop using profanity here
[10:59] <MARIUSmarius> And sound randomly choses one of them
[10:59] <danv12> desertc__: sure, i'll see if that's doable cos then the dualboot w/ windows would give me full access to my data
[11:00] <MARIUSmarius> how to dissable integated one?
[11:00] <kauer> raf256: Think of it as "system disk"? It's only a name...
[11:00] <PriceChild> raf256, but everything is now handled by libata... so it is at it should be
[11:00] <newbe5> kauer: That's a good idea, thanks for the advice :)
[11:00] <desertc__> !dualboot |danv12
[11:00] <ubotu> danv12: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[11:00] <danv12> well it's rebooting now after install
[11:00] <jeduan> linux_ you cand donwload it from http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html but take in account you could damage your system
[11:00] <LLzzJJ> azrael_: its easily installed using synaptic,,
[11:00] <linux_> CheshireViking , waht is wrong with envy ?
[11:00] <desertc__> HAS ANYONE not been helped?  Please message me
[11:00] <rdygo>  i tried re-install my GRUB. it installed, but when i choose a kernel(or other OS) , It gives "Error 15: File not found."
[11:00] <azrael_> what package am i looking for?
[11:00] <MARIUSmarius> i have 1 integrated and 1 creative sound card.
[11:00] <MARIUSmarius> And sound randomly choses one of them
[11:00] <MARIUSmarius> how to dissable integated one?
[11:00] <newbie0034> Is there anyway to convert a swf file to any video format? The swf file has vector images in it. It is not just a flv.  ffmpeg tells me that  the file is corrupted.
[11:01] <kauer> ndesertc_: rdygo has a question :-)
[11:01] <danv12> well the soundcard works, heard this drum i think
[11:01] <LLzzJJ> azrael_: probably linux-image-2.6.20-16-lowlatency
[11:01] <wong> where is .update-manager-core?
[11:01] <kauer> why do people add underscores to their names?
[11:01] <linux_> jeduan , all other things i have tried damage my system  .. .so this is the last thing i can try
[11:01] <azrael_> ok, hold on
[11:01] <Heady> hello, what is the shortcut for "show the desktop: ?
[11:02] <LLzzJJ> azrael_: you will need to reboot for this to take effect, make sure it is the chosen option when grub appears too!
[11:02] <MARIUSmarius> anybody knows, hos to dissable integrated sound card?
[11:02] <riaal_> Anyone here tried out Ubuntu on a macbook?
[11:02] <Heady> MARIUSmarius: in bios ??
[11:02] <desertc__> !grub |<rdygo>
[11:02] <wong> anybody knows, where the folder .update-manager-core is?
[11:02] <puxton> ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/ <--- How do I fix this from the terminal?
[11:02] <MARIUSmarius> mmm, not necessary
[11:02] <soundray> Heady: Ctrl-Alt-d
[11:02] <desertc__> !grub |rdygo
[11:02] <ubotu> rdygo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:02] <MARIUSmarius> just in ubuntu
[11:02] <rdygo> desertc__: i tried :)
[11:02] <kauer> Heady: You can add an applet to your task bar(s). One click hides/shows everything...
[11:03] <Heady> soundray: thx
[11:03] <raf256> PriceChild: but libata totally sucks donekys ba^h lolipops (familly friendly?)
[11:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Heady: thats a good question, although you will find it in add to panel
[11:03] <rdygo> desertc__: this article doesn't work for me.
[11:03] <LLzzJJ> azrael_: also if you compiled something against the old kernel you may need to re-compile, sorry
[11:03] <CheshireViking> linux_, envy can cause problems because it installs drivers that are newer than the ones in the repositories, so when kernel upgrades are done, it can cause problems getting X to restart
[11:03] <raf256> PriceChild: smart ctrl fails on sata devices
[11:03] <jeduan> linux_ hehehe, go on then, the worst that could happen is probably getting no more than command line access, so that's why we always noob-warn
[11:03] <PriceChild> raf256, you know it isn't. Now watch your language.
[11:03] <desertc__> rdygo: this is problematic
[11:03] <wingot> I want to remove a network from network-manager. Anyone know how I might go about that?
[11:03] <rdygo> desertc__: It installed well, but still gives "Error 15: File not found."
[11:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Heady: oops, thought you meant the actuall command
[11:03] <PriceChild> raf256, there is a small performance hit that I am aware of... but that's about it
[11:03] <raf256> PriceChild: smartctrl always fails for sd*
[11:03] <desertc__> rdygo: ... did you reseach by searching on the 'Net ?
[11:03] <Heady> i know, ive got the button there, but i wanted to know the shortcut
[11:03] <linux_> jeduan , see this http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/enable_compizfusion_in_ubuntu_feisty/
[11:04] <MARIUSmarius> how to dissable integratesd sound card? in ubuntu
[11:04] <raf256> Device: ATA      Maxtor 6Y080L0   Version: YAR4     Device does not support SMART    (bs, it does)
[11:04] <desertc__> linux_: I am very happy - very happy to see you back here helping people.  Keep up the good work.
[11:04] <rdygo> desertc__: yes, i tried many tricks, but this problem still continues.
[11:04] <riaal_> Anyone here tried out Ubuntu on a macbook? The mousepad is killing me
[11:04] <desertc__> rdygo, I can't tell you the answer - I am no GRUB expert
[11:04] <raf256> how to make smartctrl work for my hard drive
[11:04] <LinuxProbie> hey folks, anyone familiar with running elipse and php?
[11:04] <soundray> I'm compiling some in-house software, and I'm getting an "...error: 'fabs' was not declared in this scope". What am I missing?
[11:05] <rdygo> desertc__: ok :(
[11:05] <desertc__> rdygo, Quite frankly, I just shoot people in the right direction
[11:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !synaptics | riaal_
[11:05] <ubotu> riaal_: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[11:05] <desertc__> rdygo, You know what the problem is - you just need a fix
[11:05] <jeduan> linux_, oh, i see, yeah, the latest compiz-fusion from the repos is great, and has improved a lot in stability lately, good look on getting it configured!
[11:05] <kauer> rdygo: Can you use safe mod, or does that fail too?
[11:05] <newbie0034> anyone know a way to convert swf file to a video format,, ffmpeg doesn't work for me as it contains other non video data in it
[11:06] <rdygo> desertc__: but i (and all of ubuntu and kubuntu channels) can't fix it, this is the problem :)
[11:06] <Paddy_EIRE> riaal_: there is instructions near the bottom of that wiki page for mac
[11:06] <rdygo> desertc__: safe mode fails.
[11:06] <puxton> Seoke: Do you know how I can do that from the Terminal?
[11:06] <raf256> can ubuntu yet use SMART? The thing that works in windows for years?
[11:06] <kauer> rdygo: did you say you'd tried the live CD? That should give you a working OS, and you can then mount your HDD partitions and make changes...
 the next step is to post on launchpad
[11:06] <Frogzoo> raf256: might need '-d ata'
[11:06] <soundray> !info smartmontools | raf256
[11:06] <ubotu> raf256: smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-8ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 256 kB, installed size 624 kB
[11:06] <raf256> Frogzoo: User Friendly (tm) ?
[11:06] <desertc__> !launchpad
[11:06] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:07] <rdygo> kauer: ?? can u help me :)
[11:07] <LinuxProbie> I've got the php module installed, but it doesn't know how to debug the php script....I think.
[11:07] <LinuxProbie> any advice?
[11:07] <chuy> is there a driver I can use in repository for Ati Radeon 9250 ?
[11:07] <Paddy_EIRE> chuy: fglrx
[11:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !ati | chuy
[11:07] <ubotu> chuy: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:08] <raf256> Frogzoo: why smart fails to do it on its own?
[11:08] <Sithe> What ISO writer should I use?
[11:08] <Paddy_EIRE> Sithe: right click image and write to disc :D
[11:08] <sebbe091> i Use K3b
[11:08] <sebbe091> :)
[11:08] <Sithe> ty
[11:08] <Sithe> Wait.. it downloaded as a rar
[11:09] <kauer> rdygo: I can't help you with the specifics of GRUB, no :-( Don't know my way around that well enough. However, with the Live CD you should at least be able to obtain rw access to your HDD partitions, allowing you to fix the problem. *HOW* to fix the problem is another story :-(
[11:09] <Paddy_EIRE> Sithe: extract it first
[11:09] <emeriste> Then you need to unrar
[11:09] <rdygo> kauer: :(
[11:09] <mojojojo_> hi... do you know a program which helps to check grammar of the given sentence... I mean it would check if I make any mistake... .
[11:09] <kauer> raf256: did -d ata work?
[11:09] <emeriste> unrar -xvvf file
[11:09] <Sithe> I have it
[11:09] <raf256> kauer: checking
[11:09] <wanu> DCC SEND "thanksforallthehelp" 0 0 0
[11:10] <weredragon> So, if I download the installation file and wrote it to a cd how come it won't boot.?
[11:10] <puxton> Seoke: Do you know how I can do that from the Terminal?
[11:10] <puxton> ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/ <--- How do I fix this from the terminal?
[11:10] <Paddy_EIRE> weredragon: how did you write it and what was the file you downloaded
[11:10] <emeriste> You downloaded the iso ?
[11:11] <desertc__> LET THE PURGING BEGIN
[11:11] <weredragon> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso and i wrote it using the Infran program the FAQ said to..
[11:11] <emeriste> What's going on there?
[11:11] <Ace2016> HI all
[11:11] <Paddy_EIRE> weredragon: if your using windows to burn the image then I would suggest using a freeware app called ImgBurn...
[11:11] <Ace2016> i need help
[11:11] <Ace2016> my echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH does not show anything
[11:11] <kauer> why do people add underscores to their names? Serious question...
[11:11] <desertc__> PriceChile: I NEED TO BE CLEANSED
[11:11] <Ace2016> how do i fix the paths?
[11:12] <emeriste> If you have the file extracted and it's definitely an iso file, then try right clicking on it and see if it gives you options for burning it to disk that way.
[11:12] <Paddy_EIRE> weredragon: for any other trouble burning in windows please use ##windows
[11:13] <desertc__> Ace2016: Why do you think you need to have this?
[11:13] <emeriste> I don't think it's enough just to burn the iso onto a disk as if it were any ordinary file.
[11:13] <Ace2016> desertc__: i can't compile a thing
[11:13] <soundray> kauer: many IRC programs try 'yourchoicenick' first, and 'yourchoicenick_' second if the first is already in use.
[11:13] <NET||abuse> hmm, having issues with java here,, try to run zend or ecilpse,, it runs like it just isn't interested,, screen redraws dont' work, eclipse just sticks on about 75% loaded progress bar.... nuts it's annoying,,
[11:13] <desertc__> Ace2016, You don't want to be compiling anything with Ubuntu
[11:13] <NET||abuse> do i have to reconfigure my java or something? use a specific java version (i'm on amd64)
[11:13] <Paddy_EIRE> emeriste: thats why I suggested using ImgBurn on win
[11:14] <jeduan> NET||abuse: what does java -version gets you?
[11:14] <Ace2016> desertc__: why?
[11:14] <desertc__> Ace2016, Ubuntu is an operating system where everything should be availale through the package mangement
[11:14] <f0rqu3_> is there a defrag tool for ubuntu?
[11:14] <desertc__> Ace2016, Just find what you need with Symantic
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Ace2016: build-essential
[11:14] <MARIUSmarius> once again: how to dissable integrated sound card on ubuntu?
[11:14] <soundray> f0rqu3_: it's not needed
[11:14] <Ace2016> Paddy_EIRE: i have that already
[11:14] <kosh--> desertc__: right... where everything "should" be available... but not everything is
[11:15] <desertc__> kosh--,  What are you talking about???
[11:15] <emeriste> Try putting your iso file on the desktop. Then rightclick it and open it with Serpentine CD burner.
[11:15] <kosh--> desertc__: i had some problems in the past where i had to compile my own packages, nothing else would work.
[11:15] <linux_> jeduan , maybe its  wrong but envy its the only way that compiz work for me . ..
[11:15] <desertc__> kosh--, If you are ready to "out-smart" Ubuntu - then you should check out a different distro - I recommend Fedora or Gentoo
[11:16] <soundray> f0rqu3_: to defragment a DOS filesystem, back it up, wipe and restore.
[11:16] <kosh--> desertc__: i admit... it's very seldom, but it does happen.
[11:16] <f0rqu3_> ext3
[11:16] <soundray> f0rqu3_: ext3 doesn't fragment significantly.
[11:16] <emeriste> desert -- Good advice. Gentoo should make most people more humble.
[11:17] <kosh--> desertc__: why is compiling a piece of software "out-smarting Ubuntu"?
[11:17] <soundray> What can I do about this compile error: "'fabs' was not declared in this scope".
[11:17] <puxton> 11:16:53AM -!- ERROR Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/. <--- How do I fix this?
[11:17] <Ace2016> so anyone know how to fix it?
[11:17] <emeriste> kosh - It isn't that difficult to compile either.
[11:17] <kosh--> that's what i'm saying
[11:18] <desertc__> kosh--, They put those packages together at a certain revision level for a REASON.  You are choosing to override those decisions and make changes.  You are BUILDING your OWN distro!
[11:18] <emeriste> desertc... I think that's exaggerating..
[11:19] <aldin> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/32894/ *** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.61.
[11:19] <aldin> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.52, 2.53 or 2.54
[11:19] <desertc__> kosh--, If you are ready to build your own distro, then you are ready for a more flexable distro.
[11:19] <aldin> what to do?
[11:19] <Frogzoo> f0rqu3_: there's no defragging in linux, sorry
[11:19] <faileas> hmm, Vorlonlix?
[11:19] <faileas> nevermind me...
[11:19] <emeriste> I don't think that installing software from source on Ubuntu is the same thing as 'building your own distro'.
[11:20] <kosh--> desertc__: ok, point well taken. you are right there. and if people don't know what theyx are doing they just shouldn't. but if my 7.04 ubuntu has a bug in a tiny little part of it, which i can fix by recompiling it with different options or something. I think it's ok
[11:20] <emeriste> Oh you are trying to recompile UBUNTU?
[11:20] <kosh--> no, sorry
[11:20] <kosh--> wrong words
[11:20] <kosh--> just one program
[11:20] <emeriste> I thought you were just going to compile pidgin or something.
[11:20] <desertc__> Kosh--: Sure, okay for you - but not for coming in to #ubuntu and asking what's going on.
[11:20] <el_isma> Hi! Ubuntu doesn't detect my synaptics touchpad. I tried installing synaptics and changed my xorg.conf many times (using examples from the net)... i don't know what to do
[11:20] <f0rqu3_> Frogzoo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defragmentation#Filesystems
[11:21] <kosh--> desertc__,
[11:21] <kosh--> right
[11:21] <faileas> Frogzoo, f0rqu3_ : more accurately most *linux* native FSes don't need defragmentation
[11:21] <emeriste> I don't think you need to patch ubuntu. If you can patch ubuntu then what are you doing here?
[11:21] <LinuxProbie> !eclipse
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <kosh--> desertc__: i forgot this has a lot of newbies, where you should be carefull what you say
[11:21] <desertc__> !touchpad
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <emeriste> I am a 'noob' too. I switched to Linux just 2 weeks ago.
[11:22] <faileas> *chuckles*
[11:22] <dreamer> hi all, I just had another kernel panic .. I've been having these 3-4 times a week for the past 1.5 months .. is anybody willing to help me fix it? because this just can't do :'(
[11:22] <emeriste> But for some reason I'm talking as if I slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
[11:22] <faileas> on on off for years, i never seem to stick to it despite liking it though
[11:23] <desertc__> dreamer: please - please file a bug report on Launchpad.
[11:23] <Blauhaut> guys i want to make autoclean
[11:23] <dreamer> desertc__: how do I do that?
[11:24] <Blauhaut> and it shows me about 88 packages to remove
[11:24] <desertc__> dreamer: Do you know how to file a bug report?  Enter in all the information you can about your system - all the techinical details.
[11:24] <dreamer> desertc__: I think I have made a launchpad-account some time ago .. but how do I file a bug-report and what can I say ?
[11:24] <dreamer> desertc__: hm, ok
[11:24] <Blauhaut> it is too many i think for autoclean
[11:24] <desertc__> !launchpad |dreamer
[11:24] <ubotu> dreamer: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[11:24] <Parisi> *Off topic* Could anyone suggest which would make a better chouce between a budget Acer 14'' or budget Toshiba 15'' notebook? Quality wise?
[11:24] <LinuxProbie> Another question: Can someone help me totally clean java out of my system? I think something broke when installing it and I wanna start clean
[11:24] <Blauhaut> can anybody help me for autoremove  ?
[11:24] <Frogzoo> Blauhaut: did you upgrade recently ?
[11:25] <Blauhaut> yes
[11:25] <Blauhaut> can i paste here ?
[11:25] <LinuxProbie> Parisi, You're better off with a dell, to be honest. Nothing beats their gold warramty
[11:25] <desertc__> !off-topicparisi
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topicparisi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <desertc__> !off-topic |parisi
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <desertc__> !offtopic |parisi
[11:25] <ubotu> parisi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:26] <Blauhaut> desertc__, can i paste here ?
[11:26] <desertc__> !pastedump
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastedump - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <desertc__> !pastebin
[11:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:26] <faileas> Parisi: i'd suggest looking up the models in question on tuxmobile, if your gonna run linux on it
[11:26] <xstasi> desertc__, you're definitely a bot.
[11:27] <desertc__> xstasi: It's so easy once you know how
[11:27] <faileas> Parisi: on technical stuff though, and monitor, i'd go for the toshiba.
[11:27] <Parisi> LinuxProbie I am deciding between the 2 systems on sale this week at "worst" buy. $450-$550 range.
[11:28] <desertc__> I know - I know - Oceania has much less Linux users than the US and Europe
[11:28] <Blauhaut> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32896/ GUYS what are these packages for ?
[11:28] <Parisi> I bought the Acer 14'' but i am not too happy with it, so i think i am going back tomorrow and returning it for the 15'' Toshiba Satellite.
[11:28] <desertc__> This channel is nonstop scrolling -12 hrs from now
[11:29] <Blauhaut> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32896/ What are these packages for ? is it good to remove them ??
[11:29] <desertc__> Why?  Why? You may ask ?  I think it has to do with you copy protection enforcement!
[11:29] <faileas> desertc__: and much less people, unless your sheep use linux ;p
[11:29] <Frogzoo> !hardware | Parisi
[11:29] <ubotu> Parisi: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:30] <desertc__> No... just help microsoft enforce your copy right laws, bust everyone using pirated software, and you all will have jobs doing Linux support!!!
[11:30] <faileas> >_>
[11:30] <desertc__> Seriously, wake up in the middle of the night and watch this channel - it scrolls like crazy.
[11:30] <faileas> ;)
[11:30] <Roma> salut sunt cineva din ROMANIA
[11:30] <Blauhaut> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32896/ What are these packages for ? is it good to remove them ??
[11:31] <faileas> the internet never sleeps
[11:31] <azrael_> ok another question about JACK, after i got rosegarden installed tried getting ardour, i try to open ardour and it says jack is either not running or running another application, rosegarden is completely closed out by the way, how do i check on the status of JACK
[11:31] <Solpex> can anyone help me please
[11:31] <desertc__> GO GO GO Master Solpex!
[11:31] <Myrtti> !anyone | Solpex
[11:31] <ubotu> Solpex: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:32] <desertc__> http://www.linuxgamingworld.com  <- buy Linux commercial games!
[11:32] <Solpex> I'm trying to get my box online. Im useing a hub and i dont know what ip to put in the box manual config ive got a statip ip...
[11:32] <azrael_> How do i get check the setting in JACK, like to make sure it's running
[11:33] <Solpex> Ive got a pc on windows xp plugged into the hub
[11:33] <Solpex> also my cable modem of cause and the linux box
[11:33] <Solpex> i can get the windows pc online easy
[11:33] <Solpex> or the linux box
[11:33] <Solpex> but not at the same time
[11:34] <Solpex> :/
[11:34] <faileas> hmm
[11:34] <Solpex> It was working kewl last week
[11:34] <faileas> whats your layout?
[11:34] <Solpex> layout ?
[11:34] <faileas> the hub needs a router/pc acting as arouter i thought?
[11:34] <puxton> 11:16:53AM -!- ERROR Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/. <--- How do I fix this?
[11:34] <faileas> yeah
[11:34] <Solpex> yes
[11:34] <desertc__> puxton, Have you checked the permissions?
[11:34] <Solpex> the pc is acting as a router to the box
[11:34] <faileas> yanno net-> cable modem -> windows PC running ICS -> hub -> ubuntu?
[11:35] <Solpex> i was getting the evil 126. ip
[11:35] <Solpex> lol
[11:35] <puxton> desertc__: I don't know how to set permissions. The command I tried didn't seem to work.
[11:35] <desertc__> puxton, Why are you trying to write to that directory?
[11:35] <gerr2> #ubuntu-marketing
 yanno net-> cable modem -> windows PC running ICS -> hub -> ubuntu?  ?????????/
[11:35] <desertc__> puxton, You are probably trying to do something you are not suppoed to be doing
[11:35] <faileas> ...
[11:35] <puxton> desertc__: Its where the IRCd saves the info
[11:35] <faileas> how is your network setup?
[11:36] <Solpex> what do ya mean by that?
[11:36] <desertc__> What IRC?
[11:36] <danv12> hmm i most likely need to reset my WEP info, where is it stored so that i can get the networkmanager to start afresh?
[11:36] <faileas> gerr2: you forgot a /join i think
[11:36] <puxton> desertc__: bitlbee IRCd
[11:36] <desertc__> puxton, xchat or gaim does not
[11:36] <puxton> desertc__: I'm talking about IRCd, not IRC clients.
[11:36] <desertc__> puxton, is that Canonical supporteD?
[11:36] <Solpex> will someone help me please...
[11:37] <faileas> Solpex: i'm trying!
[11:37] <spacebat> hi, can anyone point out a howto for switching from kde to gnome on ubuntu?
[11:37] <desertc__> Solpex, only for canonical supported software
[11:37] <fsckr> how do i uninstall something that I have compiled if make uninstall is unavailable?
[11:37] <puxton> desertc__: As in, my box is an IRC server.
[11:37] <desertc__> puxton, Maybe try #ubuntu-server
[11:37] <desertc__> spacebat, unlikely
[11:38] <spacebat> I just upgraded to feisty and kdm won't run
[11:38] <spacebat> gdm has no problems and I'm kindof sick of kde
[11:38] <puxton> I thought that channel was only for Ubuntu Server editions?
[11:38] <spacebat> I've used update-alternatives for x-session-manager and x-window-manager
[11:39] <Solpex> ffs
[11:39] <Solpex> nice one guys
[11:39] <Solpex> great support channel.
[11:39] <spacebat> but on starting X the usual gnome environment isn't present, and the window manager looks like kwin
[11:39] <Don64> spacebat : loojk at the lower left hand corner when ur at the login screen for options
[11:39] <spacebat> Don64: will do tks
[11:39] <Don64> np
[11:40] <newbe5> yay! next problem:P I've downloaded the rdesktop source, and im trying to install it. First thing the readme says to do is ./configure, so I do that and I get: Error: C Compiler cannot create executables
[11:40] <desertc__> newbe5, Don't be compiling source code for your ubuntu
[11:41] <newbe5> there aren't any binary packages available
[11:41] <desertc__> no one with a user name newbe should be compiling source code
[11:41] <emeriste> fskr i think you use dpkg
[11:41] <faileas> ;p
[11:41] <newbe5> =D breaking stuff is fun though ;)
[11:41] <emeriste> at the command line type man dpkg
[11:41] <omegabeta> desertc__: the best pk in ultima online of all time's name was Newbie :P
[11:42] <spacebat> Don64: that worked a treat thanks
[11:42] <emeriste> I dont understand why I am answering people's questions in this room when I have only been using Ubuntu for 2 weeks and I know very little.
[11:42] <desertc__> newbe5: this is not the right distro for experimenting and trying out new things
[11:42] <Don64> glad it helped
[11:42] <emeriste> I think it must be because I am fatigued and presumptuous.
[11:42] <newbe5> no? how come?
[11:42] <spacebat> call me too much cli guy
[11:42] <puxton> Can someone tell me the command to set read/write permissions for a directory and its contents?
[11:42] <desertc__> emeriste, because you have so few people on your side of the planet ready to help
[11:42] <omegabeta> emeriste: Because you are a decent person with worthwhile values, keep it up.
[11:42] <newbe5> this is pretty much my first time using linux and im just tring to install stuff
[11:43] <emeriste> haha omega and desrt. Thanks.
[11:43] <desertc__> newbe5: if you want to experiment, then try Gentoo or Fedora
[11:43] <newbe5> why not ubuntu? is it too closed down or something?
[11:43] <desertc__> Both are very good distros that help people learn the linux OS
[11:43] <faileas> newbe5: generally, compilation is the last resort...
[11:43] <omegabeta> Just dont get in to the elitest habbit of ! | botting everyone to look cool, i swear alot of these guys idle here just to ! ubtou bot people for the sake of it
[11:43] <joseluis> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:44] <newbe5> sounds fine to me, seems overly complicated, I could just go for a regular installer about now :P
[11:44] <desertc__> newbe5: Ubuntu was not built for you to do these types of things
[11:44] <newbe5> I've been using the software installer from the menu up until now, and that's been workign great
[11:44] <irwiss> puxton; chmod --help|grep recursive
[11:44] <emeriste> newb what are you trying to install?
[11:44] <desertc__> emeriste, You might check where I am from with my /whois
[11:44] <newbe5> but to use the Gnome RDP I just installed I need to have rdesktop installed
[11:44] <puxton> irwiss I tried chmod but it didn't work
[11:44] <Frogzoo> omegabeta: after you've answered the same question 50 times, it gets to a point where it's the bot or nothing
[11:44] <newbe5> and that isn't available through the auto nistaller thingy
[11:45] <omegabeta> Ubuntu can be whatever you want it to be, in some ways more effort is required then others but its still linux and its still able.
[11:45] <newbe5> through add/remove I mean
[11:45] <faileas> newbe5: no deb anywhere either? tried apt?
[11:45] <omegabeta> Frogzoo: I can relate, but I dont think everyone shares the same opinion
[11:45] <newbe5> deb? apt?
[11:45] <newbe5> =D
[11:45] <faileas> deb is a package
[11:45] <omegabeta> Frogzoo: I see guys that dont reply to anyone unless they know they can ! |bot it
[11:45] <faileas> apt is the command line installer
[11:45] <irwiss> puxton; Do you own all files you want to chmod?
[11:45] <desertc__> newbe5, ONLY use Synaptic to get your packages.  They will give you EVERYTHING you need to do
[11:45] <lgonga> ragnarok
[11:46] <faileas> go open a console then type in apt-cache search packagename
[11:46] <Don64> newbe5: are u using the sanaptic?
[11:46] <faileas> desertc__: synaptic... thats... the apt front end right?
[11:46] <puxton>  irwiss: I don't know
[11:46] <desertc__> faileas, I have no idea - it's the only way Canonical recommends users to install packages
[11:46] <faileas> >_>
[11:46] <supremesonic> I need to debug my local UDP programs, how can I get my ngrep or wireshark to work on local host?
[11:47] <irwiss> puxton; Are you using gnome's nautilus?
[11:47] <newbe5> synaptic is the add/remove thing?
[11:47] <faileas> no
[11:47] <desertc__> newbe5, You got it
[11:47] <desertc__> newbe5, Yes
[11:47] <faileas> i though add/remove was something else?
[11:48] <desertc__> faileas, Add/remove is what windows users call it
[11:48] <puxton> irwiss: Yes. I went into nautilus to change ownership from root to my username, and it didn't work. I them reinstalled bitlbee and now am trying to get it done from the Terminal instead of doing it from Nautilus.
[11:48] <faileas> yup. synaptic is a apt front end
[11:48] <faileas> desertc__: i'm mostly a windows user ;p
[11:48] <newbe5> aha!
[11:48] <Don64> newbe5: System/administration/synaptic
[11:48] <newbe5> I see the problem
[11:48] <desertc__> faileas, Don't consider it another way to get to apt-get --- just tell people here to use synaptic
[11:49] <emeriste> newb -- I think rdesktop is on there.
[11:49] <faileas> desertc__: *shrug* or nothing at all. i'll have to check it out when i boot into linux later ;)
[11:49] <newbe5> oooo, that's all manner of different from add/remove
[11:49] <Don64> yep
[11:49] <newbe5> thanks, I didn't even know that was there :)
[11:49] <emeriste> Newb open a terminal and type sudo apt-cache search rdesktop
[11:49] <desertc__>  faileas they start using apt-get, then they use atominix, then they use a compiler -- then you are troubleshooting some wicked errors
[11:49] <faileas> >_>
[11:49] <faileas> thats what i was trying to tell him
[11:49] <emeriste> see if that's what you want.
[11:50] <newbe5> actually, I managed to do it from souce while we were all talking about ways for me not to do it like that :P
[11:50] <emeriste> Oh well I guess you showed us then. . .
[11:50] <irwiss> puxton; It didn't work as in, the owner is still root?
[11:50] <puxton> irwiss, No, i mean it still wouldn't read/write to it
[11:50] <newbe5> but, it still doesn't work like I wanted because I was after an rdpV6, but this only seems to do v5
[11:50] <newbe5> but at least I know that sudo thing is there now, thanks guys :)
[11:50] <emeriste> Oh I see. I really don't know what all of that stuff is.
[11:51] <newbe5> I take it that sudo reads it's packages from a totally different place from the add/remove tool?
[11:51] <newbe5> bah! synaptic I mean
[11:51] <desertc__> newbe5: Do you think that registered in apt-get?  Do you even know what apt-get is?
[11:51] <newbe5> getting my linux lingo confised :PP
[11:51] <emeriste> sudo is a command that lets you temporarily act as root.
[11:51] <emeriste> you should use it very minimally.
[11:51] <howlingmadhowie> newbe5: no. sudo just means the next command will be run with superuser privileges. (you don't need it for apt-cache btw)
[11:51] <newbe5> yea I was getting muddled :P
[11:51] <emeriste> sudo stands for 'super user do'
[11:51] <irwiss> puxton; Hm... Try running "chown -R yourusername:yourusername ./DirectoryIWantToChmod" and then chmodding again?
[11:52] <arn_> can any one tell me, how can i install a network printer in my ubuntu?
[11:52] <faileas> i thought su= switch user... so sudo would be switch user do ...
[11:52] <faileas> ?
[11:52] <howlingmadhowie> newbe5: go to -> "system->administration->synaptic packet manager", select rdesktop and click install
[11:52] <desertc__> !printer
[11:52] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:52] <puxton> irwiss Do i need that dot . before the directory name?
[11:52] <newbe5> howlingmadhowie: yea that's what I'm looking through now
[11:52] <emeriste> The reason that I know some of these things, despite being a noob myself is that I read a book.
[11:52] <desertc__> arn_ : good luck with your issue - lots of work has been done with printers - I hope you get squared away
[11:53] <newbe5> so I should use synaptic all the time instead of add/remove? because add/remove has been qorking pretty well for me so far, does synaptic just have more stuff on it?
[11:53] <irwiss> puxton; Not really
[11:53] <howlingmadhowie> faileas: the syntax of su includes "su" as a short form for "su root"
[11:53] <cyrenity> hi all
[11:53] <irwiss> puxton; But take off the / if you take the ., just sanity checking ;)
[11:53] <emeriste> Also, I would say, my primary reason for switching to linux was because I was hoping to learn more about computers.
[11:53] <Cope> how do I get upstart to run a respawning process?  I just want a mechanism for checking if a process (in my case a vpn client) has died, and restarting it again.
[11:53] <howlingmadhowie> newbe5: i've never really understood add/remove. i i think it's a simpler form where you can ratings and stuff. i just tend to use synaptic packet manager
[11:53] <cyrenity> i want only one user modify user home dirs to change ownerships and permissions but not as root
[11:53] <cyrenity> any idea?
[11:54] <howlingmadhowie> emeriste: and i bet it's working :)
[11:54] <emeriste> I strongly suggest that if you want to install or uninstall software you should use the synaptic package manager.
[11:54] <cyrenity> in which group i add that user to do that task
[11:54] <puxton> irwiss: Okay, done. How do I chmod now?
[11:54] <emeriste> Howling -- Yes I'm pretty pleased with that. :)
 : I don't understand
[11:55] <emeriste> Newb -- The synaptic package manager is a gui for the dpkg and apt commands at the command line.
[11:55] <Paddy_EIRE> !samba > Paddy_EIRE
[11:55] <irwiss> puxton; chmod -R <permissionsyouwant> DirectoryName, where <> is for example 755 or a+w
[11:55] <newbe5> ok thanks :) so it's pretty much just 2 different tools for doing almost the same thing, so I can pick and choose a bit :)
[11:55] <kork> hey, is there by chance still a repository I can use to debootstrap hoary? archive.ubuntu.com seems to only contain the latest versions
[11:55] <emeriste> Apt is better than dpkg because it takes care of dependencies better.
[11:55] <desertc__> cyrenity: see #ubuntu-server
[11:56] <newbe5> ahhh, I just read a thing, apparently add/remove is just another frontend for synaptic
[11:56] <emeriste> apt uses dpkg actually ( I think )
[11:56] <puxton> irwiss: a+w? I was given g+w by someone else :S
[11:56] <irwiss> puxton; Be careful to not mess up with permissions on files you don't know, you might cause damage you're not aware of
[11:56] <desertc__> cyrenity: that's not a desktop question
[11:56] <cyrenity> thanks
[11:56] <emeriste> but it also keeps track of dependencies .
[11:56] <emeriste> There's also something called aptitude which seems more powerful yet, but I don't know about it to say anything.
[11:56] <irwiss> puxton; o+w gives owner writing permissions, same thing for group is g+w, for everyone it's a+w
[11:56] <Paddy_EIRE> newbe5: (add remove) or gnome-app-install is a little more minimal and pretty
[11:56] <newbe5> yea, I can't use add/remove if I have synaptic already open, so it looks like it draws from the same thing
[11:57] <desertc__> emeriste: use third-party tools at your own peril
[11:57] <desertc__> Why do you think you have got to outsmart Ubuntu?
[11:57] <emeriste> desert -- What could go wrong?
[11:57] <ferronica> You are not privileged to unmount the volume 'Local Disk'.
[11:57] <newbe5> you guys are very helpful, thanks a lot :)
[11:57] <Kasle> do anyone know where i can get a "24" CTU theme for ubuntu?
[11:58] <Frogzoo> !themes | Kasle
[11:58] <ubotu> Kasle: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:58] <emeriste> I don't think there are any active viruses for Linux.
[11:58] <desertc__> !automatix
[11:58] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[11:58] <Paddy_EIRE> Kasle: that would be cool, although the fvwm-crystal window manager comes pretty close
[11:58] <ferronica> You are not privileged to unmount the volume 'Local Disk'.
[11:58] <Paddy_EIRE> Kasle: would be nice to have a gnome theme though
[11:59] <faileas> desertc__: eheh, i've been trying to talk a friend of mine off automatix ;p
[11:59] <desertc__> !automatix |emeriste
[11:59] <ubotu> emeriste: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[11:59] <Jak08> is there any reason why my right alt key would stop working? I know it isn't the keyboard because I have tried a couple out
[11:59] <desertc__> got it?
[11:59] <ferronica> Help!
[11:59] <ferronica> You are not privileged to unmount the volume 'Local Disk'.
[12:00] <desertc__> ferronica, why are you trying to do that?
[12:00] <elkbuntu> desertc__, automatix is malware, not viral :)
[12:00] <ferronica> desertc__ for safety :)
[12:00] <newbe5> security feature, disconnect all drives? :P
[12:00] <desertc__> ferronica, Can you elaborate?
[12:01] <Paddy_EIRE> elkbuntu: would be nice if they solved those issues in automatix but for now I'll be recommending Linux Mint
[12:01] <ferronica> desertc__  i am unable to unmount windows HDD
[12:01] <desertc__> Paddy_EIRE, Excellent
[12:01] <faileas> Paddy_EIRE: or you could install what ya need manually? ;)
[12:01] <desertc__> ferronica, Want to do it from the command line?
[12:01] <puxton2> irwiss: It still didn't work.
[12:02] <Jak08> ferronica, did you try to do sudo umount sda1 (I am assuming that sda1 is the name of your windows hdd"
[12:02] <ferronica> desertc__: whatever you suggest
[12:02] <desertc__> ferronica, are you at a prompt?
[12:02] <Paddy_EIRE> faileas: or I could just use linux mint...manual install always leaves me forgetin something and this is not good when I leave the persons house that I have just setup
[12:02] <faileas> i suppose
[12:02] <gsevil> I have problem with beryl, I log in to Gnome, then logout, login to KDE then beryl make a mess,can't see anything in konsole,menu
[12:03] <ferronica> desertc__: yes
[12:03] <desertc__> ferronica, Type: sudo umount <the mount point - probably /mnt/win32 or something >
[12:03] <desertc__> ferronica, it doesn't get any easier than this, babe
[12:03] <emeriste> desert according to that link automatix is not a virus.
[12:03] <irwiss> puxton2; Hm... I'm out of ideas without more info... Please paste output of "ls -la <DirectoryName>" on that directory into some pastebin, like http://pastebin.com/
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> faileas: I wish they would solve the firefox mplayer bug that leaves you having to 'ln' the required files to the correct location in the ff plugins folder
[12:04] <ferronica> desertc__: tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ sudo umount sdc1
[12:04] <ferronica> umount: sdc1: not found
[12:04] <desertc__> mplayer is proprietary software
[12:04] <puxton2> !paste
[12:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:04] <desertc__> ferronica, you got the wrong path
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> desertc__: mplayer aint proprietry ... is it?
[12:04] <desertc__> ferronica, It's no question that it isn't sdc1
[12:05] <desertc__> Paddy_EIRE, Yeppers!
[12:05] <ferronica> sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[12:05] <faileas> mplayer is FOSS, i thought the codecs weren't?
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> desertc__: how about vlc
[12:05] <puxton2> irwiss: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32898/plain/
[12:05] <desertc__> Paddy_EIRE, It's from the Check republic
[12:05] <faileas> Paddy_EIRE: VLC is definately FOSS
[12:05] <desertc__> Paddy_EIRE, Where they stole the media codecs
[12:05] <faileas> hmm
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> desertc__: then which is better and is there a vlc divx codec/plugin for firefox
[12:05] <desertc__> Paddy_EIRE, VLC is shady but better
[12:06] <cant_use_ubuntu> hi guys, just a quick question in synaptic is it safe to remove packages in Not installed residual config section ?
[12:06] <irwiss> puxton; I'm quite sure directories in /var/ shouldn't be user-owned, why are you trying to do that?
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> desertc__: and there is only the 1 frontend that I know of for vlc
[12:06] <irwiss> puxton2; see message above
[12:06] <faileas> i got an old system, 128 MB ram, 733 MHZ P III. think some flavour of ubuntu would run on it? Xubuntu maybe?
[12:07] <puxton2> irwiss: I setup an IRCd and it created the directory bitlbee under /var/lib/ and its supposed to save infos there.
[12:07] <desertc__> I use Totem - and Xine just for UNencrypted DVD playback
[12:07] <puxton2> irwiss: Its an empty directory
[12:07] <kauer> desertc_: I don't think you should be discouraging people from playing with compilers etc. Instead, just warn them to keep their own stuff separate from the packaged stuff, and (if they install their own stuff) to make sure they keep good backups.
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone here run multiple window managers...? and if so should this impact on the system performance wise or will it just take up a little more hdd space
[12:07] <desertc__> If you guys down in Oceania are still buying our DVD CSS encrypted media - then shame on you
[12:08] <Don64> Faileas: I have 138mb Ram 1.8ghz p4 and run ubuntu
[12:08] <faileas> don64: ubuntu= gnome?
[12:08] <desertc__> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[12:08] <Don64> Faileas: Runs great off live cd install
[12:08] <Don64> yes
[12:08] <howlingmadhowie> faileas: the 128MB are a bit limiting. if you could up that to 256 (or better 512), then you could run ubuntu without real difficulties on it
[12:08] <faileas> desertc__: not everyone totally believes in that
[12:08] <newbe5> I'm new to this, but I'd love to run windowmaker, it looks awesome :)
[12:09] <desertc__> Faileas: Ignore it at you own peril.
[12:09] <faileas> howlingmadhowie: its a... junk rig. its been a TOTAL pain getting it to do whats expected of it
[12:09] <irwiss> puxton; You run the ircd under irc group, and bitlbee has debian package, didn't it set up the permissions on it's own?
[12:09] <irwiss> puxton; You should* run
[12:09] <howlingmadhowie> faileas: maybe you could recycle it as a flower pot :)
[12:09] <faileas> desertc__: what peril? i just use whatever gets the job done
[12:09] <Don64> but id you found u needed slimmer install then Xubuntu should work
[12:09] <Don64> *if
[12:09] <faileas> howlingmadhowie: laptop. tried PC BSD but i can't make head or tail of it, and the package system is messed
[12:10] <Jak08> faileas, assuming you go with xubuntu, you can allways install gnome on top of it, to see if it works
[12:10] <faileas> ^^
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> faileas: or try fluxbuntu
[12:10] <desertc__> faileas: You think I am helping you to get you job done??
[12:10] <faileas> i assume alternate installer disk would be what i want?
[12:10] <emeriste> desert -- you know.. everything we do we do at our own peril...
[12:10] <faileas> desertc__: no, but i'd *use* whatever got my job done
[12:10] <desertc__> Dream on, dreamers.
[12:10] <Don64> probably
[12:10] <howlingmadhowie> faileas: then xubuntu should run on it, but it won't be particularly nippy. you could look at lightweight distributions (dsl, puppy etc.) but your computer is really over-powered for dsl. have a look at xubuntu :)
[12:11] <faileas> :)
[12:11] <faileas> cool
[12:11] <emeriste> What is xubuntu anyhow?
[12:11] <puxton2> irwiss: I installed bitlbee from the repositories. I guess it didn't setup the permissions correctly.
[12:11] <puxton2> irwiss: How do I run it under irc group? I don't know.
[12:11] <faileas> ubuntu with XFDE as default
[12:11] <paolo_> Hi all, I'm facing a problem in upgrading to gutsy, I'm getting the following errore message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32899/.
[12:11] <faileas> oh. and is it a one disk install?
[12:11] <emeriste> Oh I've never seen that environment.
[12:11] <howlingmadhowie> emeriste: xubuntu is the evil overlord who the scientologists fight
[12:11] <faileas> that system has a wifi adaptor that *will* work in linux, but no ethernet
[12:12] <paolo_> I didn't find any bug report in bugs.launchpad
[12:12] <Don64> *rotflol'
[12:12] <emeriste> I temporarily took at look at kde but I had already been too inculcated by gnome I think.
[12:12] <howlingmadhowie> emeriste: failing that, it's ubuntu with a lighter, smaller display manager
[12:12] <Paddy_EIRE> faileas: apparently xfce is getting more bloated and performance hungry whereas gnome is getting more refined and lightweight
[12:12] <emeriste> Hehe howling. :)
[12:12] <irwiss> puxton; Try running "chown irc:irc /var/lib/bitlbee", "chmod 755 /var/lib/bitlbee", that's about the only thing that comes to mind... It should run under irc user that by default, or at least it did that a year or so ago
[12:12] <faileas> Paddy_EIRE: i need it working now, and i need to teach my dad it. skype running on it would be a HUGE bonus
[12:13] <Paddy_EIRE> faileas: go for xubuntu to get you up and running you can always try diff windows managers as and when
[12:13] <faileas> *nods*
[12:13] <faileas> oh
[12:13] <Paddy_EIRE> faileas: skye should not ba a prob although I'd recommend ekiga
[12:13] <faileas> and it isn't a netinstall is it? i don't *think* so
[12:14] <ezzi> omfg
[12:14] <faileas> Paddy_EIRE: nees to be skype, thats what i'm using now ;p
[12:14] <Paddy_EIRE> faileas: no its a full install on 1 cd
[12:14] <faileas> awesome ;p
[12:14] <Paddy_EIRE> brb
[12:15] <puxton2> irwiss: Now it gives the error when I start the IRCd. It wasn't there before.
[12:16] <howlingmadhowie> faileas: skype has of course the huge problem that they have never documented their protocol, and reverse-engineering it is nigh-on impossible. in other words: vendor lock-in
[12:16] <paolo_> Is there anybody that faced the "authenticate '/tmp/tmpabhgFh/gutsy.tar.gz' against '/tmp/tmpabhgFh/gutsy.tar.gz.gpg'
[12:16] <paolo_> " problem in upgrading to Gutsy?
[12:16] <Sjlver> Hello!
[12:16] <faileas> howlingmadhowie: well, its not so much a big issue for now
[12:16] <irwiss> puxton2; I'm not a telepath unfortunately :P Can you pastebin the error?
[12:16] <howlingmadhowie> faileas: it will be when skype ups the prices
[12:16] <faileas> if they do, i just set up something else ;)
[12:17] <howlingmadhowie> faileas: good luck, seeing as 90% of the world uses skype
[12:17] <Sjlver> I've got an interesting case here, installing ubuntu on a disc connected by USB, which is going to be inserted in my friends mini-laptop afterwards.
[12:17] <Sjlver> But now I need some helps for the grub part... anybody?
[12:17] <Don64> isn't Ekiga free
[12:17] <faileas> dosen't matter, i only need the not to raise prices for a year or so ;p
[12:17] <Don64> ?
[12:17] <puxton2> irwiss: ERROR :Warning: Permission problem: Can't read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/.
[12:17] <howlingmadhowie> ekiga is 100% free, but it can't interact with people who use skype, as far as i know
[12:18] <faileas> my co-worker/sibling is in the middle east, and he has skype set up
[12:18] <gordonjcp> you can use chan_skype in asterisk
[12:18] <faileas> so do i
[12:18] <irwiss> puxton2; How are executing bitlbee?
[12:18] <puxton2> irwiss: Earlier it used to show this error in my IRC client. After I set the irc group as you said, it shows the error when i start the IRCd AND in the IRC client
[12:18] <faileas> i wanna get my dad skype to so bro can talk to dad about work stuff ;p
[12:18] <puxton2> irwiss: I type bitlbee -I
[12:18] <howlingmadhowie> faileas: why don't you all move as a family to sip? i think even the skype client supports sip
[12:19] <faileas> howlingmadhowie: maybe next hols ;)
[12:19] <sbcdestroy> how do i mount an ISO image like i would on windows with alcohol or daemon tools
[12:19] <faileas> by which time nearly everyone will have better systems ;p
[12:19] <Sjlver> Hi! Is there anybody who has experience installing grub, and could help me with a problem?
[12:19] <faileas> (and i will have a linux system to play with MWAHAHAHAH) ;)
[12:20] <Sjlver> sbcdestroy: mount -o loop /path/to/image /path/to/mountpoint
[12:20] <sbcdestroy> thank you sir.
[12:20] <sbcdestroy> and is unmount the same
[12:20] <sbcdestroy> but just with unmount instead of mount
[12:20] <irwiss> puxton2; inetd should run it for you
[12:20] <Sjlver> sbcdestroy: might need to specify filetype, for example -t iso9660
[12:20] <sbcdestroy> alright thanks
[12:21] <Sjlver> umount /path/to/mountpoint
[12:21] <Sjlver> (without all the other arguments)
[12:21] <Sjlver> (and without 'n', just umount)
[12:22] <irwiss> puxton2; Try sudo invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart
[12:22] <irwiss> puxton2; And then try connecting
[12:22] <Tabby_Cat> +here all culd some help to find a live cd or dvd
[12:22] <Sjlver> Hi! Is there anybody who has experience installing grub, and could help me with a problem?
[12:22] <puxton2> irwiss: Do I need to do that just once, or everytime I reboot the machine?
[12:23] <irwiss> puxton2; Unless you mess up your /etc/init.d scripts it will run automagically
[12:23] <puxton2> irwiss: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd not found.
[12:24] <Tabby_Cat> !list
[12:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:24] <puxton2> irwiss: When I did apt-get for inted, there was another one than openbsd-inted... Thats what I installed.. I don't remember its name
[12:24] <Don64> Tabby : what r u looking 4?
[12:25] <irwiss> puxton2; Hmm... Probably first question I should've asked; Which ubuntu are you running?
[12:25] <puxton2> irwiss: Fiesty Fawn
[12:25] <puxton2> irwiss: Actually there were both, openbsd-inted, and another one.. I installed the other one
[12:26] <puxton2> I don't remember the name. I closed that window
[12:26] <irwiss> puxton2; Try running ls /etc/init.d | grep inetd
[12:26] <puxton2> irwiss: It says inetd
[12:26] <irwiss> puxton2; sudo invoke-rc.d inetd restart
[12:27] <puxton2> irwiss: invoke-rc.d: syntax error: missing required parameter
[12:28] <irwiss> puxton2; sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[12:28] <Tomasu> has anyone managed to get ubuntu with 2.6.22-9 and vmware server installed and working fine?
[12:28] <asas> yra lietuviu?
[12:28] <puxton2> irwiss: Okay, done.
[12:28] <prakka> haven't tried, why..?
[12:28] <bittis> hey everyone, have a problem, i installed ubuntu on a machine yesterday and i set it up to allow xdmcp connections so i can use xming from windows to connect, yesterday it worked fine but after a restart when i try and connect over an x session i get the ubuntu login screen, i enter my username and password, and then it just displays the background for ever, anyone with a similar problem?
[12:28] <irwiss> puxton2; Does it connect?
[12:29] <asas> gal lietuviu yra?
[12:29] <puxton2> irwiss: It connects but has the same problem. Can't write read/write from/to /var/lib/bitlbee/
[12:29] <asas> can anyone help me?
[12:29] <gsevil> do you know anything about MSS2 codec? I need to watch some training video, but it said that I don't have such codecs. I've install w32 codec packages
[12:30] <asas> i have problem
[12:30] <irwiss> puxton2; paste output of "ps -FA|grep bitlbee" please
[12:30] <jhaig> bittis: Do you have a separate (or remote) partition for the /home directory?
[12:30] <asas> when ubuntu is starting i get error : failed to load hal
[12:31] <puxton2> irwiss: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32900/plain/
[12:31] <irwiss> puxton2; sudo chown bitlbee /var/lib/bitlbee
[12:31] <puxton2> irwiss: Okay done.
[12:32] <asas> failed to initialize hal,help me~!!!! ????
[12:32] <irwiss> puxton2; restart it as in the command before just in case, and try connecting again
[12:32] <prakka> asas, what's the problem than..?
[12:32] <puxton2> irwiss: It worked now :)
[12:32] <puxton2> irwiss: :D
[12:32] <irwiss> puxton2; Great :)
[12:32] <asas> when i am starting ubuntu i get error
[12:32] <puxton2> irwiss: So I don't need to restart inetd again when I reboot do i?
[12:32] <irwiss> puxton2; I don't think so
[12:32] <asas>  failed to initialize hal
[12:33] <bittis> jhaig: no, the home directory is on the disk, if that is what u r asking me
[12:33] <asas> prakka can you help me
[12:33] <asas> yesterday i just started using ubuntu
[12:33] <prakka> asas, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23291.html
[12:33] <asas> thank you
[12:33] <jhaig> bittis: Can you log in directly into the machine?  Ie, not through xdmcp.
[12:34] <bittis> i just tried that 2 minutes ago, it keeps asking for a username and password
[12:34] <prakka> np ^^
[12:34] <bittis> so am guessing no, i reseted it just now
[12:34] <irwiss> puxton2; As I can see in my openbsd-inetd, it's set up to run at runlevel 2, so as soon as you have X to start up, it should be working
[12:34] <twb> Can someone please add a note to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDShareThisCD for me?  Ubuntu's login setup does not work with my browser.
[12:34] <puxton2> irwiss: Ah okay. Are you running the bitlbee IRCd too?
[12:34] <Tabby_Cat> hi i there any live cd that use madwifi driver inside ubuntn live dvd /cd
[12:34] <jhaig> bittis: Try logging in at a text console - Press [Ctrl] +[Alt] +[F1] 
[12:35] <irwiss> puxton2; No, I'm using pidgin, I've had trouble with encodings in earlier versions of bitlbee, might try it again some day
[12:35] <bittis> jhaig: i just logged in, it seems that it doesnt work once i try logging in using a remote xsession
[12:35] <puxton2> irwiss: And by running an IRCd, do I have any security risks if I disable access from outside?
[12:35] <bittis> jhaig: i logged in localy on the machine
[12:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Kasle: have you tried fvwm
[12:36] <prakka> bittis, and then install irssi, it's like IRC in the console
[12:36] <asas> prakka?
[12:36] <Paddy_EIRE> Kasle: i'd recommend fvwm crystal for a pretty 24 ctu look and feel
[12:36] <Sjlver> Hi! First: I like the ubuntu installer, thanks a lot if any of the contributors is here.
[12:36] <Sjlver> Second: does anybody know if it is possible to invoke only parts of the installer? Because everything worked fine, unless the grub installation which aborted the procedure :-/
[12:36] <Paddy_EIRE> Kasle: sorry thats fvwm-crystal
[12:36] <Sjlver> Now I'd like to continue there without re-copying the files
[12:37] <twb> http://paste.lisp.org/display/45744
[12:37] <asas> can i download firmware from somewhere my dvd is samsung sh122l?
[12:37] <bittis> prakka: why would i need irssi ?
[12:37] <prakka> i assumed you couldn't login bittis, isn't that so..?
[12:38] <jhaig> bittis: I don't know, I'm afraid.  You could check all the network cables to make sure they are properly seated.
[12:38] <prakka> or well, not login in yer graphical thingy
[12:38] <irwiss> puxton2; If you can find an option to make bitlbee "bind" on 127.0.0.1, you can be more safe than disabling access
[12:38] <Don64> Tabby:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[12:38] <bittis> i cant loggin once i try logging through a remote x session
[12:38] <Don64> see if this helps
[12:38] <bittis> if i restart and loggin manual then it works fine
[12:38] <prakka> aha
[12:38] <bittis> cables and everything works fine
[12:38] <asas> samsung dvd sh-s182m
[12:39] <asas> where i could find drivers for ubuntu
[12:39] <bittis> should i have it so that the x server restarts with every x session ?
[12:39] <irwiss> puxton2; "sudo netstat -ltup" will let you see what is listening to the outside, things listening to "localhost:(whichever port number)" are usually safe
[12:39] <jhaig> bittis: I don't think so.
[12:39] <irwiss> puxton2; As they can only be accessed from the local computer
[12:39] <asas> can anyone help me????? !!!!
[12:39] <academ1c> asas, googled it?
[12:39] <puxton2> irwiss: Okay.. I'm checking it out. I'll accept connections from outside just to test with my friends, and later bind it to 127.0.0.1
[12:40] <asas> i tried but nothing i am from lithuania i hardly can in english
[12:40] <bittis> jhaig: it seems like the x server just crashes if i try to loggin remotely , why would that be
[12:40] <academ1c> damn
[12:40] <asas> academic help me
[12:41] <newbe5> is it possible to install rpm files in ubuntu?
[12:41] <academ1c> asas: should you actually need to install drivers? it should just work...
[12:41] <irwiss> puxton2; Have fun :)
[12:41] <academ1c> newbe5: googleit :P
[12:41] <puxton2> irwiss: Thanks a lot man :)
[12:42] <asas> i cant see my dvd
[12:42] <newbe5> a yes or no would ahve been faster ;)
[12:42] <irwiss> newbe5; apt-cache show alien
[12:42] <academ1c> newbe5: i've got no idea lol
[12:42] <Jaikkanen> is there (and if so) a empty trashcan bash command, what is it?
[12:42] <bittis> prakka: jhaig: it seems to work if i have it to restart the x server after every loggin
[12:42] <bittis> no idea why
[12:42] <asas> i am usingg ubuntu feisty 7.04
[12:42] <bittis> thank you for your help :)
[12:42] <irwiss> puxton2; Welcome :)
[12:42] <Cicakman> hello
[12:42] <academ1c> asas: sorry, got no idea, give the forums a go, more people there
[12:42] <prakka> didn't do much, but hey, tanx ^^
[12:42] <academ1c> i gtg now anyway
[12:42] <puxton2> irwiss: Is it in the inted where I have to setup where to accept connections from, or in the bitlbee.conf?
[12:43] <prakka> g-bye
[12:43] <asas> ok
[12:43] <newbe5> ok so I can use that to repackage rpm's into debians?
[12:43] <Cope> what determines a package being "kept back"?
[12:43] <newbe5> ok, I'll try that
[12:43] <bittis> btw, does ubuntu have a plug and play functionality ? say i pluggin a wireless dongle, would it try and recognise it?
[12:43] <irwiss> puxton2; I'm not sure, but my bet is on inetd
[12:43] <Cicakman> can anyone help me... when i pressed CTRL-F1 (go to console) , there's nothing on the screen... and i cant get back to the gnome login screen. i have to (blindly) type in my username & password and do the sudo shutdown -r thingy....
[12:43] <puxton2> Okay
[12:44] <Cicakman> CTRL-F1 or CTRL-ALT-F1 i cant remember exactly
[12:44] <soundray> bittis: yes, it would try to find and load a driver. It wouldn't try to connect to a network though.
[12:45] <soundray> Cicakman: Ctrl-Alt-F1 switches to console. Alt-F7 switches back.
[12:45] <irwiss> puxton2; In ubuntu gutsy, it's /etc/inetd.conf
[12:45] <prakka> newbe5, install alien
[12:45] <puxton2> irwiss: yes I have a inetd.conf..
[12:45] <prakka> sudo alien -i <filename>
[12:45] <puxton2> irwiss: Gutsy? Its the new Ubuntu version?
[12:45] <prakka> should do the trick
[12:45] <puxton2> !gutsy
[12:45] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:45] <prakka> yes
[12:45] <soundray> Cicakman: if your console isn't displaying, it may help to use the vga boot parameter, e.g. vga=771
[12:45] <puxton2> ah
[12:45] <Cicakman> soundray: oh ok... i;ll give that a shot
[12:45] <irwiss> puxton2; Change the bitlbee line to say "localhost:6668 stream tcp...",r estart and it'll bind on localhost
[12:46] <irwiss> puxton2; Restart inetd that is, not reboot ;)
[12:46] <steel_lady> PLEEEASEEEE:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3143943        http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3143943
[12:46] <Cicakman> soundray: i suppose i need to reboot....
[12:46] <Cicakman> soundray: brb
[12:47] <mattycoze1> hay ppl I've got a problem with the ubuntu keyring, i can't access the default one for some reason and it's causing me all sorts of problems! help please
[12:48] <puxton2> irwiss: And what about if I want to accept connections from everyone?
[12:48] <mattycoze1> lol for example i took off the keyring through synaptic and it took off a whole load of stuff,
[12:49] <irwiss> puxton2; Then it should say "6668 stream tcp...", of course you should look into your inetd documentation for specifics, as I'm only guessing they're compatible
[12:49] <puxton2> irwiss: Okay just making sure. I have it setup as accepting connections from all but it says connection refused
[12:50] <irwiss> puxton2; Who is trying to connect to you? Are you behind a router? Do you have firewall or iptables rules active? That's a whole different matter ;)
[12:50] <steel_lady> how can I rwsolvw the problem? I tried on forums, google... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3143943
[12:51] <puxton2> irwiss: Oh, right. So I need to port forward.
[12:51] <Micettonero> hi all
[12:51] <prakka> hi
[12:52] <Micettonero> how can i have a gtk+2 interface with emacs?
[12:53] <puxton2> irwiss: Its connecting from outside now, thanks. Now I know how to fool around with the settings :)
[12:55] <soundray> Micettonero: install emacs-snapshot (version 22)
[12:55] <Micettonero> soundray: thanks
[12:55] <irwiss> puxton2; I didn't do anything, don't thank me ;P
[12:56] <puxton2> hah modesty ;D
[12:56] <alesan> hi, is there a more approprieta ubuntu-64 channel or may I ask here if it is easy, once the 64bit version is installed, to create a 32bit chroot environment for development purposes?
[12:58] <Busata> Defcon 1 reached.
[12:58] <etalli> I have Ubuntu and Fedora dual booting.  I had Ubuntu first, then I installed Fedora on a seperate partition.  Now Ubuntu won't boot. Please help.
[12:59] <newbe5> does anyone use tightvnc in ubuntu? I'm having problems getting it to connect to another machine
[12:59] <etalli> More specifically, Ubuntu hangs at the splash screen with a tiny slice of the loading bar completed.
[01:00] <mattycoze1> hay ppl I've got a problem with the ubuntu keyring, i can't access the default one for some reason and it's causing me all sorts of problems! help please
[01:00] <arpa121> Hello
[01:01] <Jak08> Hello
[01:01] <etalli> At first nothing happened, but then I went and copied the Ubuntu entry in my /boot/grub/menu.lst file for Ubuntu's grub into Fedora's.
[01:01] <Solpex> hi all im setting up open ssh
[01:01] <soundray> I have a weird problem. A program that I need compiles on one feisty installation without any problems. On another, it fails with an "error: fabs was not declared in this scope". How do I work out what it is that provides fabs and is missing in the second installation?
[01:01] <Solpex> what command can i use to edit the config ?
[01:01] <arpa121> how can I setup ubuntu and windows together ?!
[01:02] <CheshireViking> !dualboot | arpa121
[01:02] <ubotu> arpa121: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[01:02] <mattycoze1> is there a way to reset premissions on the whole drive to the way it is when first installed?
[01:03] <soundray> mattycoze1: no, if you've messed up permissions globally, you generally have to reinstall.
[01:03] <sebastian_> uh
[01:04] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Please use Gnome Search Tool to find /var/log/suspend2ram.log. How does it call the 'Type' of this file in English? 'application protocol'?
[01:04] <Solpex> does ubuntu have pico ?
[01:04] <etalli> How do you change which bootloader is used?
[01:04] <Jak08> would anybody here know why a right alt key would stop working while the other works fine, and it isn't the keyboard
[01:04] <mattycoze1> soundray, oh, that sucks - well it's nothing huge, maybe i could live with it
[01:04] <mattycoze1> just can't access folders from a user without putting in root pw
[01:04] <FireHazard17> gutsy rocks!
[01:04] <mattycoze1> drive folders i mean
[01:05] <bullgard4> Solpex: yes.
[01:05] <mattycoze1> FireHazard17 gutsy gibbon out?
[01:05] <FireHazard17> nope
[01:05] <bella> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:05] <bella> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:05] <bella> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:05] <FireHazard17> mattycoze1: but it rocks
[01:05] <soundray> mattycoze1: that can be fixed, though. I thought you'd done something like 'chown -R user /'
[01:05] <FireHazard17> mattycoze1: even looks better
[01:06] <mattycoze1> FireHazard17 where did you download it?
[01:06] <FireHazard17> mattycoze1: and the upgraded apps is always a plus
[01:06] <FireHazard17> i wont tell if you dont know it isnt stable nough for you
[01:07] <soundray> mattycoze1, FireHazard17: please discuss gutsy in #ubuntu+1
[01:07] <FireHazard17> soundray: sure thing
[01:07] <etalli> How do you change which bootloader is used?
[01:08] <Enselic> etalli: you just install another bootloader on top of the existing one, and setup it correctly
[01:08] <Enselic> etalli: I'm curious in what way you find the current defecient?
[01:09] <etalli> Enselic: Huh?  I had Ubuntu, then I set Fedora up to dual boot.  How do I go back to Ubuntu's grub?  Just to clarify...
[01:09] <kaoron> Bonjour
[01:09] <sherkin> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn.
[01:09] <sherkin> Nautilus eats most of CPU. Could someone help ?
[01:09] <mattycoze1> FireHazard17 lol i know where it is dw.
[01:09] <mattycoze1> FireHazard17 it says the next stable one is next month
[01:09] <mattycoze1> that's preety quick considering Fiesty came out only at the begining of this year!
[01:10] <FireHazard17> its every six months ALWAYS!
[01:10] <FireHazard17> every
[01:10] <FireHazard17> six
[01:10] <Enselic> etalli: no need to, just modify /boot/grub/menu.lst on the fedora partition to boot Ubuntu instead by default
[01:10] <FireHazard17> months
[01:10] <mattycoze1> :o
[01:10] <Enselic> etalli: afaik they both use Grub no?
[01:11] <bullgard4> Solpex: I meant my answer in the sense that there is a program in Ubuntu of equal performance as pico. Its name is 'Nano'.
[01:11] <Enselic> etalli: so there is no need to replace anything
[01:11] <sherkin> I read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs2/+bug/54684
[01:11] <sherkin> (about edgy) but I'm not sure I should apply the patch or not ?
[01:12] <bullgard4> lastlog bullgard4
[01:12] <etalli> Enselic: I have already set it up to boot Ubuntu default, and copied the Ubuntu entry in the menu.lst file on my Ubuntu partition into Fedora's.  However, Ubuntu isn't booting properly, and I think it might be because of Grub.  I haven't touched Ubuntu since I installed Fedora (yesterday), so I don't know what else it could be.
[01:13] <dell_lin> i am using chattzilla as irc client how do i confiure chatzilla even i am idle for long time or if it disconnect how to reconnect automatically
[01:13] <Enselic> etalli: I doubt grub is the problem, my bet is on your menu.lst        in what way does it not boot properly?
[01:14] <Enselic> dell_lin: any particular reason you use that client? why not use a "real" client? I recomend xchat-gnome
[01:14] <dell_lin> ok
[01:14] <etalli> Enselic: Ubuntu hangs at the splash screen with less than one little block filled.  You can only just barely see the orange loading bar.
[01:14] <dell_lin> no i never tryed this i will try this
[01:15] <dell_lin> thx
[01:15] <etalli> Enselic: If you'd like I could paste the two menu.lst's in a pastebin.
[01:15] <Enselic> etalli: sure, I could take a look
[01:15] <c_> is this the correct channel to ask why I can't switch on google maps to fullscreen when using firefox running on ubuntu?
[01:15] <etalli> Enselic: OK, one moment.
[01:16] <Enselic> etalli: also paste ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ please
[01:17] <jhaig> Is there a list of PDAs and smartphones that are known to sync properly with Ubuntu?
[01:17] <sylvantis> hello, what variable holds the pager for man? it's usually $PAGER but it is not set...
[01:18] <Solpex> thanks bullgard4
[01:19] <soundray> c_: have you tried F11 ?
[01:19] <jhaig> sylvantis: I don't know, but I would guess that if it is usually $PAGER, and that is not set, it would just revert to a default.  Have you tried setting $PAGER?
[01:19] <sylvantis> hello, what variable is used in ubuntu for the command for viewing man pages? usually it's $PAGER but it is not set...
[01:20] <sylvantis> oops
[01:20] <Solpex> heh i cant get into root or su :( any ideas ?
[01:20] <Solpex> i use my password and it wont work
[01:20] <soundray> sylvantis: I think it uses /usr/bin/sensible-pager
[01:20] <astro76> !root | Solpex
[01:20] <ubotu> Solpex: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:21] <astro76> sylvantis, looks like $LESSOPEN and $LESSCLOSE
[01:21] <etalli> Enselic: Here you go.  paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32905
[01:21] <etalli> Enselic: Sorry, missed your other comment.  Coming.
[01:21] <Solpex> cheers
[01:22] <jhaig> sylvantis:  According to the man page, if $PAGER is not set it will use "/usr/bin/pager -s", which is a symlink to "/usr/alternatives/pager" which (for me) is a symlink to /usr/bin/less.
[01:22] <WeeJeWel> Guys, switching between sessions (ctrl+alt+F#) causes my X to crash, or at least, I only see the cursor when switching back to F7... why?
[01:22] <jhaig> WeeJeWel: Try switching to F8
[01:22] <sylvantis> ahh yes thats it thnx a lot fellows :D
[01:23] <jhaig> WeeJeWel: Sometimes X gets stuck on F8 instead of F7.
[01:23] <soundray> WeeJeWel: or F9 even
[01:23] <etalli> Enselic: The ls is at  paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32906
[01:24] <Enselic> etalli: please paste future url full, so that irc clients know they are urls and can make them into clickable links
[01:24] <etalli> Enselic: Oops, sorry.
[01:25] <sylvantis> i think ubuntu modified the original xchat package :X
[01:25] <sylvantis> the original had more options
[01:25] <newbe5> xchat won't work on my ubuntu
[01:25] <none_> dfg
[01:25] <newbe5> I'm having to use mIRC :/
[01:26] <sylvantis> newbe5: Konversation is great
[01:26] <newbe5> won't work either
[01:26] <Jak08> yeah my xchat doesn't work either so i'm using gaim :)
[01:26] <newbe5> I think it's because of my ISA server
[01:26] <sylvantis> newbe5: mIRC sucks :S
[01:26] <newbe5> I need something like proxomitron for linux
[01:26] <sylvantis> why doesn't it work for everyone then? what errors does it give?
[01:26] <toplok> its there a way to autostart an application as iconized ?
[01:27] <newbe5> mine isn't errors, it just won't connect, because of my ISA server
[01:27] <Oyama> any suggestion for a nice music player? i'm using gnome. Rythmbox is nice, but it lacks an equalizer
[01:27] <newbe5> gotta work out how to join a windows domain with this, anyone know?
[01:27] <soundray> !player | Oyama
[01:27] <ubotu> Oyama: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:27] <sylvantis> Oyama: amarok!
[01:28] <Oyama> soundray: thnx
[01:29] <defcon> newbe5, what is proxomitron
[01:30] <defcon> nm a webfilter
[01:30] <defcon> try squid cache
[01:31] <newbe5> yea, just spotted that
[01:31] <bittis> hey guys, one more quick connection, why does the network manager only come with wpe authentication in feisty?  Do i need to enable wpa from somewhere?
[01:31] <newbe5> trouble is it also needs to do NTLM mapping
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !wpa
[01:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:32] <newbe5> currently I'm using a wierd convoluted workaround that works for the package managers but not the chat clients
[01:33] <bittis> hey Jack_Sparrow just saw that, it simply says it works, but it doesn't seem to have any wpa options in network manager
[01:33] <prakka> test
[01:34] <none_> alow............................>?!
[01:34] <bittis> it only has 3 options for web, 128 bits, and 2 64 bit ones
[01:34] <CroX> So, I've just installed Ubuntu on my stationary, after some hassle with the partition setup, but now that it boots all I get is a black screen with a blinking marker.
[01:34] <CroX> Anyone know what could be wrong?
[01:34] <newbe5> ok, im gonna leave that for now, thsi is working fine
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> bittis: I dont use wireless I have setup a few broadcoms that worked after I ran fwcutter...   wpa was never an issue
[01:35] <newbe5> does anyone have ubuntu conencted to a windows domain with kerberos working?
[01:35] <etalli> Enselic: How does it look?
[01:35] <Oyama> amarok seems great, but looks like it depends a lot on kde stuffs. Is there any player alike but for gnome, or even better, not depending on gnome or kde libs?
[01:36] <Enselic> etalli: sorry, phone :)     are you sure that is your menu.lst? it doesn't have any comments (#)?
[01:36] <CroX> Oyama: Banshee, try that one out
[01:36] <wers> what's the kget alternative for gnome?
[01:36] <CroX> Oyama: I, for one, love that player
[01:36] <etalli> Enselic: I cleaned them out.
[01:36] <rbd> hey, I was considering trying out 7.10 tribe 3 (for some new software development work)... any opinions on how stable it is? The system will be a server install, command-line only...was just wondering if there are still a lot of broken packages, etc
[01:36] <etalli> :)
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> wers: apt-get
[01:36] <Enselic> etalli: ah I see now, and  And Ubuntu's:    is not part of the file?
[01:36] <wers> by kget, i mean, the file downloader
[01:37] <soundray> wers: gwget perhaps
[01:37] <etalli> Enselic: No. :)  That was just to seperate them.
[01:37] <jetscreamer> no you mean kget the wget front end
[01:37] <howlingmadhowie> rbd: i wouldn't use a tribe release for a production system
[01:37] <soundray> rbd: join #ubuntu+1 please
[01:37] <rbd> howlingmadhowie: it's not production...will be a development/testing system...
[01:38] <rbd> ok
[01:38] <Paddy_EIRE> lmfao ----> http://www.cockermouth.org.uk/index.htm
[01:41] <Oyama> CroX: does banshee have an equalizer? i can't find any info about it on the website
[01:41] <garette> hello all i just installed the blue tooth software.. now when i try to send some photos from my mobile, its detecting my comp but showing sending failed
[01:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Oyama: http://i-nz.net/2006/07/
[01:42] <CroX> Oyama: Not that I know of, no. But shouldn't you control that from the sound driver config or something?
[01:42] <Enselic> etalli: if you remove vga=791 it will robably work
[01:42] <Paddy_EIRE> CroX: not an equalizer
[01:42] <Enselic> etalli: remove it only for the Ubuntu kernel
[01:43] <Oyama> CroX: not every alsa drivers can control the equalization, mine don't; and even if they do, it's usually not more than a 3 bands equalizer, not enough for my ears :)
[01:43] <etalli> Enselic: Oh, why.  Is that messing it up?
[01:43] <Enselic> etalli: since the ubuntu kernel has not changed, you should not change kernel parameters when moving the grub entry from the Ubuntu menu.lst to the Fedora one
[01:44] <Enselic> etalli: if Fedora needs it to boot does not matter, since Ubuntu uses it's own kernel anyway, and it worked before I assume, hence you should not modify it's kernel parameters
[01:44] <Fator_Dee> Hello, help needed, I'm upgrading from edgy to feisty and the upgrade madager craps out with installArchives() failed
[01:45] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: had you been using automatix on edgy
[01:45] <Fator_Dee> I might have, don't really remember
[01:45] <etalli> Enselic: Oh, I used that to change the tty console resolution.  I originally looked it up for Fedora, but in an older version of Ubuntu I remember having it there, so I added it for Ubuntu as well.
[01:45] <Fator_Dee> so I suppose yes?
[01:46] <Paddy_EIRE> !automatix | Fator_Dee
[01:46] <ubotu> Fator_Dee: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:46] <wanglida12> 1
[01:46] <Oyama> Paddy_EIRE: thx, i'll take a look, although i'd prefer a packaged thing...
[01:46] <jonesy> I have an hp nc6400 laptop running a newly installed/updated 7.04. I have two small issues. First, the mouse doesn't get reinitialized after a suspend.
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Fator_Dee: Number one cause of failure...
[01:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Oyama: yeah I know
[01:46] <jonesy> second is my desktops don't all have the menu and task bars.
[01:46] <Fator_Dee> Paddy_EIRE: so because I didn't know that a long time ago, no one will help me :-|
[01:46] <jonesy> only the primary one does.
[01:46] <etalli> Enselic: I guess I should remove it, but it doesn't make sense that you would lose functionality from an upgrade. :S
[01:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: youll still get help, but limited as we do not support it
[01:47] <Enselic> etalli: didn't you say you didn't touch the Ubuntu installation?
[01:47] <Fator_Dee> well, help is what I need
[01:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: most of the time a clean install of the new OS is better anyway
[01:47] <Fator_Dee> true
[01:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: what was the error the upgrade manager spewed out again
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Fator_Dee: DOnt suppose you took the time to make a backup before trying to upgrade?
[01:48] <Enselic> etalli: chances are the Fedora kernel is customized, customized in a way that is needed for vga=yournumber to make sense
[01:48] <Fator_Dee> Jack_Sparrow: don't really need one, that's what I think atleast
[01:49] <Fator_Dee> I can reconfig my comp, and reinstall my programs
[01:49] <Fator_Dee> and I don't need to repartition
[01:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: you'll think differently now then about backing up
[01:49] <Fator_Dee> but I'll chech the dist-upgrade logs
[01:50] <etalli> Enselic: That is not *needed* for either kernel, It is a kernel tag thing that should work for all of them.  It sets the resolution of the tty consoles to 1024x768 and 16bit colour.
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Fator_Dee: Three lines in a terminal is all it takes.. Yet some people dont bother...
[01:50] <etalli> Enselic: It used to work for Ubuntu.
[01:50] <Fator_Dee> Jack_Sparrow: what takes three lines?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Fator_Dee: A backup
[01:51] <Enselic> etalli: anyway, did the kernel boot when yu removed that parameters?
[01:51] <Enselic> parameter*
[01:51] <Fator_Dee> /var/log/dist-upgrades/main.log says 2007-08-07 14:47:22,910 ERROR SystemError from cache.commit(): installArchives() failed
[01:51] <etalli> Oh, it is this computer, so I am switing to another so I can reboot this one. :)
[01:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: I've been messing around with fvwm and fvwm-crystal lately and I gotta say I really like the minimal styling of those wm
[01:51] <Fator_Dee> other lines are just debug
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: crystal is nice...  clean
[01:52] <aldin> hi, what should i put in ~/.vimrc, so when i type '/' it shows me all searches?
[01:52] <aldin> i mean it select them
[01:52] <Fator_Dee> Paddy_EIRE: you got that error?
[01:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: cant find good documentation though, there seems to be no wiki and te irc channel is basically empty
[01:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: yeah 1 sec
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Yep... Never anyone there.. Sort of like the Automatix channel... never help, just problems that eventually show up here
[01:54] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[01:55] <Wankus> I was checking my auth.log today and I spotted this: "Main-PC su[26519] : Successful su for jim by root", unfortunately jim has no administer priveleges. What's going on?
[01:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: I suppose you could have a search through here http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=25002686 but I would recommend a clean install in any case
[01:56] <Fator_Dee> oh, there's also a 2007-08-07 14:32:07,495 WARNING can't import view 'DistUpgradeViewKDE' (/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/kparts.so: undefined symbol: _ZN11konsolePart8setPtyFdEi)
[01:56] <Fator_Dee> in main.log
[01:56] <Fator_Dee> Paddy_EIRE: I read those threads, nothing there :-\
[01:57] <Fator_Dee> oh well, I guess I'd reinstall then
[01:57] <etalli> Enselic: I did not work. :(
[01:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: better of...did you loose alot
[01:57] <Fator_Dee> I still think that I don't lose anything but time
[01:57] <etalli> Enselic: However, something wierd happened
[01:58] <Fator_Dee> I have a separate / /home and /storage partitions
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: this time around dont use automatix
[01:58] <Wankus>  I was checking my auth.log today and I spotted this: "Main-PC su[26519] : Successful su for jim by root", unfortunately jim has no administer priveleges. What's going on?  Anybody know?
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: good that you kept seperate partitions
[01:59] <MuNzE> some1 can tell me how to install x11-xcb in feisty?
[01:59] <Fator_Dee> I know that now, I did read that article through /., but didn't know that 1.5 years ago
[01:59] <etalli> Enselic: After waiting for a long time, it now shows BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu1) Built-in shell (ash) and a prompt that says (initramfs)
[01:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: its never been supported
[01:59] <Fator_Dee> I'm not that new to linux, so I know the advantage of separate partition
[01:59] <Fator_Dee> yes, but humans are stupid :-p
[01:59] <Fator_Dee> at least I am
[02:00] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[02:00] <etalli> Enselic: Hello?
[02:01] <Enselic> etalli: weird
[02:01] <Enselic> etalli: in Fedora, are you able to mount the Ubuntu partition?
[02:02] <etalli> Enselic: Yes, however, if I type tty at this wierd prompt, it shows /dev/console
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Enselic: Did he shrink the Ubuntu partition to make room for Fedora?  If so how did he shrink it
[02:02] <etalli> Enselic: should I boot into Fedora?
[02:02] <BlueRaid> hi
[02:02] <Solidays> Hey
[02:03] <etalli> Jack_Sparrow: I did shrink the ubuntu partition.  I used a live Ubuntu CD and gparted.
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> 1059 People Shout back... Hello.....
[02:03] <BlueRaid> I want to share my printers. I had done it like the wiki. I can print local on the machine,
[02:03] <BlueRaid> But when i print from another non Ubuntu distri it doens't work
[02:03] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[02:03] <BlueRaid> From ubuntu to ubuntu it work
[02:03] <Paddy_EIRE> BlueRaid: which other distro
[02:03] <BlueRaid> Gentoo
[02:04] <Enselic> etalli: Jack_Sparrow poses an interesting questin
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:04] <BlueRaid> I see the printers in cups
[02:04] <BlueRaid> and in the error_log: cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided.
[02:05] <etalli> Enselic: And I answered it.  I did, using a Ubuntu LiveCD and gparted.  I don't know more than that.
[02:05] <etalli> Enselic: Just the normal gparted resize and noew partition
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> etalli: But that points to a different problem than where you were heading
[02:05] <etalli> Jack_Sparrow: How?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> etalli: Resizing partitions always has a potential for problems...  How much data was moved, how full the partition was....
[02:07] <Fator_Dee> how could I spew out info on what packages I have currently installed so I could automagically install what I have now?
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> etalli: Entirely different set of problems over a simple grub change
[02:07] <etalli> Jack_Sparrow: I resized a 52GB to a 47GB and made the 5GB into a new partition
[02:08] <[andres] > I'm having trouble starting an gnome session. X starts up fine, and I'm able to log on. But before the gnome splash comes up, everything just freezes. any ideas what I can do to resolv this?
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Fator_Dee: dpkg get-selections > mypackages.txt
[02:08] <Fator_Dee> thanks
[02:08] <IdleOne> !cloning | Fator_Dee
[02:08] <ubotu> Fator_Dee: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[02:09] <[andres] > ubotu: cool. didn't know that one
[02:09] <Fator_Dee> well, that's quite complete info
[02:10] <[andres] > ah... *shame*
[02:10] <Fator_Dee> bot knowledge on the internet somewhere?
[02:10] <jetscreamer> --clear-available
[02:10] <jetscreamer> how come nobody cloned the inplace reinstall factoid
[02:11] <jrib> Fator_Dee: what more information do you need?  (It comes from the dpkg man page)
[02:11] <jrib> Fator_Dee: oops, read that as "not complete" somehow, sorry
[02:11] <IdleOne> jrib, read what Fator_Dee said again
[02:11] <IdleOne> lol
[02:12] <Fator_Dee> !automate
[02:12] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> etalli: ONe more question... did your saw partition # change?
[02:13] <[andres] > I'm having trouble starting an gnome session. X starts up fine, and I'm able to log on. But before the gnome splash comes up, everything just freezes. any ideas what I can do to resolv this?
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> swap
[02:13] <Pete986> Hello guys. My windows crashed, so I got a tip to use Ubuntu as a Live-CD so I could get my stuff out and then reinstall everything on my PC. But it won't let me copy to the external HD, telling me I don't have permission to do that. Can anyone help me?
[02:13] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: there is someone in the forums I am trying to help....what is the name of that intel graphics driver 915resolution or something
[02:13] <etalli> Jack_Sparrow: Um, I don't understand the question.
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: yes... Want the link...
[02:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: please ... nice one
[02:14] <etalli> Jack_Sparrow: Oh, typo, sorry.  No
[02:14] <jetscreamer> it's called 915resolution iirc
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:14] <Paddy_EIRE> thx
[02:15] <rausb0> Pete986: is the external HD formatted with ntfs?
[02:15] <fraser> HAI GUISE!!! if i open a terminal and type firefox, how can i then disassociate that terminal window from the process firefox?
[02:15] <Pete986> To be honest - I have no idea. It's not mine, never used Ubuntu before. How can I check?
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-36 > Pete986
[02:16] <[andres] > Pete986: If all you want is to copy your stuff out, and you have little experience with linux, you might want to use something like knoppix instead. It does ntfs-write out of the box
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Pete986: Are you using feisty livecd?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Pete986: FYI   Knoppix is really good for that....
[02:17] <erUSUL> fraser: run it with 'firefox &' or 'nohup firefox &'
[02:19] <fraser> erUSUL, yeah no didn't work. all it did was made it so after i closed the firefox window i still can't use the terminal window lol
[02:19] <Pete986> OK, guys, I'll try that instead...thanks for the help
[02:19] <etalli> Jack_Sparrow: sda1 is Ubuntu. sda2 is Swap. sda3 is Fedora.
[02:19] <NET||abuse> is there a canned solution for flashnonfree for firefox on an amd64 anywhere these days?
[02:19] <NET||abuse> or do i have to build up some kind of workaround configuration?
[02:20] <etalli> Jack_Sparrow: Wait, no.  /dev/sda2 has filesystem extended.  /dev/sda5 is Swap
[02:20] <fraser> erUSUL, oh i think i get it, after i've run firefox you way, i can then ^C, and the terminal window works
[02:20] <fraser> thanks
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> etalli: And what is fedora...
[02:21] <etalli> Jack_Sparrow: Fedora is an ext3 at /dev/sda3
[02:21] <aguitel> hello people
[02:21] <aguitel> one question
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> etalli: Looks to me that your swap partition number has changed...
[02:22] <IdleOne> aguitel, maybe 1 answer
[02:22] <Andeh> Hi
[02:22] <etalli> Jack_Sparrow: What does that mean?  It was like this when I went in to the Live CD before Fedora.
[02:22] <Andeh> How do I change my hostname on IRC?
[02:22] <IdleOne> !hi | Andeh
[02:22] <ubotu> Andeh: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:22] <aguitel> wich files and folder need to backup to restore later my personal information,settings,driver ,etc
[02:23] <Andeh> i've seen some people have something like name@customhost
[02:23] <Andeh> but mine is just andy@myisp
[02:23] <Andeh> how can I change it?
[02:23] <IdleOne> Andeh, type /stats p that will list available irc OPS and ask them to do it
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> etalli: YOur swap was 5  before you added sda3 for ferdora ?
[02:23] <Andeh> p?
[02:23] <faileas> Andeh, not many, its usually a server thing.. can't remember whats the freenopde policy for it
[02:24] <faileas> erm, what IdleOne said ;p
[02:24] <Andeh> it has 0 staff members...
[02:24] <etalli> Jack_Sparrow: I think so, I remember that in gparted there was /dev/sda2 with the system extended, and then as a subset of that there was /dev/sda5 with system linux-swap
[02:24] <Andeh> um
[02:24] <Andeh> cause i've seen people on freenode with custom hostnames
[02:24] <Andeh> ...
[02:24] <jetscreamer> Andeh: /who freenode/staf
[02:24] <IdleOne> Andeh, ask nalioth  if he is around
[02:24] <jetscreamer> iirc
[02:24] <jetscreamer> or staff/freenode
[02:25] <jetscreamer> the word is cloak btw
[02:25] <Andeh> staff/freenode :End of /WHO list.
[02:25] <Andeh> ...?
[02:25] <jetscreamer> freenode.org
[02:25] <jetscreamer> in #freenode
[02:26] <mu6VV0r713> quit
[02:27] <aguitel> anyone answer to me please?
[02:27] <jetscreamer> /who freenode/staff*
[02:27] <IdleOne> aguitel, what is your question?
[02:27] <etalli> aguitel: /home
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> etalli: Doesnt sound right to me...  Someone else may have an answer...
[02:28] <etalli> Does anyone else have an answer?
[02:28] <aguitel> which files ,folder ,directories need to backup for later restore personal information ,drivers, settings
[02:28] <IdleOne> aguitel, you want to backup /home
[02:29] <WeeJeWel> and maybe xorg.conf
[02:29] <aguitel> just home?
[02:29] <WeeJeWel> for your display settings
[02:29] <jetscreamer> sounds like your extended partiton isn't the last one
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> aguitel: MAke sure you get ALL files... hidden etc...  Also make a full backup while you are doing that...
[02:30] <etalli> jetscreamer: what does that mean?  Does it have to be?
[02:30] <jetscreamer> the fun part is to lose an extended you have to take all the primaries after it
[02:30] <aguitel> full backup with what program?
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > aguitel
[02:31] <jetscreamer> i'm not up on it i just 'never' use them
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> aguitel: Quick, easy, three lines in a terminal...
[02:31] <aguitel> which lines please?
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> aguitel: sudo su.... your pass....  cd space /.....   then.. wait for it....
[02:32] <IdleOne> !backup | aguitel
[02:32] <ubotu> aguitel: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:32] <aguitel> ok
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> aguitel: tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found  --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/media --exclude=/root/.Trash -- /
[02:34] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Please use Gnome Search Tool to find /var/log/suspend2ram.log. How does it call the 'Type' of this file in English? 'application protocol'?
[02:34] <ntbnnt> bullguard are you an indian bot?
[02:34] <tego> hi
[02:35] <newbe5> Suse Enterprise has a REALLy good tool for connecting linux to a windows domain, does anyone know of one that I can use to do the same thing on Ubuntu?
[02:35] <ntbnnt> i smell bots
[02:36] <Paddy_EIRE> !samba | newbe5
[02:36] <ubotu> newbe5: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:37] <Paddy_EIRE> is samba performance hungry???
[02:37] <ntbnnt> no
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> aguitel: If you just want to backup your home  change the last "/" to "/home"
[02:38] <Pete986> Guys, I checked the portable HD, it's NTFS. It seems to me installing the NTFS 3G Driver would make the portable HD usable, so I can recover the stuff from my other HDs
[02:38] <Fator_Dee> argh, royal fail, downloaded and burned the wrong iso :-p
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Pete986: yes
[02:38] <ntbnnt> benchmarks have shown SAMBA to be faster Paddy_EIRE
[02:38] <newbe5> thanks for the info, I understand that I need to use samba, what I meant was, is there a sensible GUI tool other than SWAT that can be used? My main problem with linux atm is that, other than the Xubuntu admin tools, everything is way too overcomplicated
[02:39] <jetscreamer> /dev/sdc1  /mnt/files  ntfs-3g  noauto,users,noexec,rw,umask=022,fmask=0113,dmask=002,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8  0 0
[02:39] <Paddy_EIRE> ntbnnt: on the win side is there anything that needs to be setup or does the wiki entry for samba detail that
[02:39] <Pete986> Jack_Sparrow> Would it work on a live-cd installation`?
[02:40] <ntbnnt> the wiki is pretty simple - to setup a secure, serious enviroment, Paddy_EIRE  theres hundreds of books
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Pete986: You can install do anything on live .. it just wont be there after you power down... also look into usb persistent installs where your changes are stored on a pen drive
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Pete986: Make that just about anything...
[02:41] <Blauhaut> is there any shortkey to kill the program which is frozen ?
[02:41] <bolingo> hi everyone
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Pete986: pen drives formatted to fat32 also work well... you have lots of options depending on what all you are trying to recover and the overall size...
[02:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ntbnnt: just after basic filesharing between my laptop and tower so backing up to the tower is simple
[02:43] <jrib> Blauhaut: type 'xkill' in a terminal or the alt-f2 dialog, press enter, then click on the offending app
[02:43] <iblicf_> hi ,everybody ..... i just installed a "dnsmasq" , anyboday can tell me where is the file ,,,it RECORD the domain info ??
[02:44] <bolingo> can someone tell me how do I install compiz fusion on an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M?I'm using ubuntu feisty
[02:44] <ikkinu> hi all, I'm looking for a terminal emulator like yakuake, but for Gnome, can u help me?
[02:45] <ntbnnt> you will need the basic configuration of SAMBA then, Paddy_EIRE
[02:45] <ntbnnt> check out some examples and turtorials, and you will get the idea, Paddy_EIRE
[02:45] <Paddy_EIRE> ntbnnt: ok, Will that allow back and forth access so I can send from tower to laptop aswell
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> ntbnnt: ok, thx
[02:46] <ntbnnt> ya, Paddy_EIRE
[02:46] <K-4U> Can somebody help me with getting ubuntu on a network? I can't access this ubuntu pc from my windows network, and vice versa
[02:46] <mattwalston> How can I edit the menu for ALL users?
[02:47] <ntbnnt> you will need to checkout samba, K-4U
[02:47] <K-4U> ntbnnt: Samba?
[02:48] <ntbnnt> !samba | K-4U
[02:48] <ubotu> K-4U: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:48] <K-4U> okay, thnx
[02:48] <aguitel> !backup
[02:48] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:48] <ntbnnt> its not as bad as it sounds, K-4U
[02:49] <K-4U> ntbnnt: No, i'd already thought it was something simple... I'd tried running a teamspeak server, and a SA:MP server
[02:49] <K-4U> so that gives a second question: how can i see which programs i've got running?
[02:49] <Sebastian> hello all
[02:50] <Sebastian> can someone help me? i have a sony vaio vgn-n350fe, and I'm having problems with power management.
[02:50] <ntbnnt> you can run the simple prgm "top" in terminal, K-4U
[02:51] <K-4U> okay thnx ntbnnt
[02:51] <ntbnnt> or in gnome you can add the Monitor to your panel, K-4U
[02:52] <ntbnnt> right click it to get to the processes tab, K-4U
[02:52] <K-4U> aah, okay! thnx!!
[02:52] <ntbnnt> np
[02:53] <fevel> Sebastian, which version are you running?
[02:53] <ntbnnt> !acpi
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <ntbnnt> haha
[02:53] <IdleOne> !sbackup | aguitel
[02:53] <ubotu> aguitel: sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[02:53] <Sebastian> I'm running feisty. As we chat I'm installing kernel 2.6.22.9
[02:53] <ntbnnt> !love
[02:53] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[02:53] <ntbnnt> lol
[02:54] <Sebastian> On a fresh and up-to date installation
[02:54] <fevel> Sebastian, what type of problems?? there seems to be known issues with hibernate
[02:54] <MenZa> Hi; I'm having some problems with my X server; it's complaining about my NVIDIA kernel module and my X module not being the same versions. I've tried re-installing nvidia-glx-new and linux-restricted-modules-common, so they ought to match. Has anyone got any idea how to fix this?
[02:55] <Sebastian> I cannot control brightness
[02:55] <Sebastian> The last time, I installed kernel 2.6.22.9 with powertop, but it wasn't on a clean installation, and everything went bad.
[03:01] <eRazor> hi all
[03:02] <alesan> is theer any issue if I have few machines in the same network with the same hostname?
[03:02] <genii> alesan: Yes
[03:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: what is your opinion on Linux Mint..I have been using it for awhile now any reservations
[03:02] <alesan> genii, whatfor example?
[03:03] <genii> alesan: Network apps which use name resolution get confused and often freeze up
[03:03] <alesan> I do not understand
[03:03] <alesan> if they use name resolution they should resolve that name as localhost
[03:04] <alesan> you're talking baout samba maybe?
[03:04] <alesan> about
[03:05] <Paddy_EIRE> ntbnnt: I have done the first step of this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently 'sudo apt-get install smbfs'...I'm a little unsure as to how I should procede forgive my ignorance :)
[03:05] <eRazor> Hi all
[03:05] <Paddy_EIRE> ntbnnt: do I need to create the Credentials File
[03:05] <Paddy_EIRE> ntbnnt: it says its unsecure
[03:07] <ntbnnt> you should really use google for SAMBA, Paddy_EIRE, you can go extactly by that wiki and you will be able to share files, however for specifics, you will need to search around - you do not need to create the .conf file
[03:07] <ntbnnt> its there, Paddy_EIRE
[03:07] <genii> alesan Yes mainly. But also if you have 2 machines with same name, any app which tries to resolve IP to name for instance will have issues
[03:07] <genii> Sorry for lag, work called me away
[03:08] <alesan> genii, still, if there is no DNS for local names I do not see the problem. hostname should be mostly an internal thing
[03:08] <Paddy_EIRE> ntbnnt: ok my winxp tower has 1 user with no pass...and I dont know where to get the required details for host name and anything else relating to the win comp
[03:08] <ntbnnt> you should only worry about security with SAMBA if your in a corp, Paddy_EIRE
[03:08] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[03:08] <MenZa> Hi; I'm having some problems with my X server; it's complaining about my NVIDIA kernel module and my X module not being the same versions. I've tried re-installing nvidia-glx-new and linux-restricted-modules-common, so they ought to match. Has anyone got any idea how to fix this?
[03:09] <ntbnnt> Paddy_EIRE, you will be basically making windows creditials work with linux credituals
[03:09] <superkirbyartist> Yo guys.
[03:09] <superkirbyartist> I got a 486 with Linux.
[03:09] <superkirbyartist> I need a clean X file.  Can someone help please>
[03:09] <ntbnnt> o.o
[03:10] <MenZa> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[03:10] <superkirbyartist> MenZa, thanks, I'll try that.
[03:10] <Sebastian> hi, I cannot control brightness on my new sony vaio...
[03:10] <Sebastian> please help!
[03:10] <alesan> is samba-server instaled by default on (ed)ubuntu?
[03:10] <superkirbyartist> MenZa, it's not debian
[03:10] <genii> alesan: If you are networking between them using only IP numbers for instance it won't be such an issue. But you asked what the issues where and I informed you
[03:10] <ntbnnt> Sebastian, there is a brightness aplet in gnome
[03:10] <MenZa> superkirbyartist: What distro are you using?
[03:11] <superkirbyartist> MenZa: BasicLinux 3.5
[03:11] <MenZa> superkirbyartist: I'm afraid we cannot support that in #ubuntu.
[03:11] <alesan> genii, ok sure :) sorry I did not mean to seem "hostile" if you felt so :D
[03:11] <ntbnnt> Sebastian, the keys may not work, :(
[03:11] <Fator_Dee> ok, fingers crossed now that I didn't mark the wrong partition to be formatted :-p
[03:11] <IdleOne> superkirbyartist, try the www. for that distro I am sure they have a FAQ or a wiki page
[03:11] <jrattner1> Question: How do I add a new user to the system who can use "sudo" as root?
[03:12] <MenZa> jrattner1: Create a user, then add them to the group 'admin'
[03:12] <jrattner1> MenZa, thanks
[03:12] <ntbnnt> superkirbyartist, just check out the xorg site
[03:12] <Sebastian> ntbnnt: it doesn't work
[03:12] <digip1mp> pyrargent: still around?
[03:12] <ntbnnt> O.o
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> ntbnnt: this is crazy http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ kinda like finding a needle in a haystack
[03:13] <ntbnnt> Sebastian, then its just one of those things - Sony isn't very cool about linux compabile hardware
[03:13] <Sebastian> I installed the 2.6.22 kernel for more compatibility, but still no luck
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> ntbnnt: way to much info...maybe I should get an external hdd
[03:13] <genii> alesan: It is OK. Sorry if the answer was abrupt.
[03:14] <ntbnnt> Paddy_EIRE, that would be ideal, ya
[03:14] <ntbnnt> Sebastian, all i can say is look for it in later releases, not all laptop features work
[03:15] <Sebastian> ntbnnt: ok, thanks mate :)
[03:15] <Sebastian> cheers
[03:15] <alesan> genii, :)
[03:16] <iDN> hi everybody, i have issues with my mouse
[03:16] <Sivik> i have ssh, and when i try to connect using the ip address, it says "ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer"
[03:18] <Blauhaut> i want to copy my dvd to my linux with iso file ? How can i do it ?
[03:18] <iDN> yesterday my mouse began to stop functioning for short periods of time. today after i connected it using usb to PS/2 connector, it began to go crazy in games. any thoughts?
[03:19] <IdleOne> Blauhaut, can you please rephrase your question I am not sure I understand
[03:19] <soundray> Blauhaut: 'dd if=/dev/dvd of=file.iso'
[03:20] <soundray> Blauhaut: or use k3b
[03:20] <IdleOne> or do what soundray said :)
[03:20] <Blauhaut> IdleOne; i want to create (from my dvd) an iso file (on my desktop)
[03:21] <jrattner1> Question: I just did a fresh LAMP installation, then accidentally overrid all files in /etc/apache2....Where can I reconver the original files that shipped with the LAMP setup?
[03:21] <IdleOne> Blauhaut, like soundray said use a program like k3b
[03:21] <LDS_Trooper> Morning, how do I access Unicode in Gedit?
[03:21] <Blauhaut> k3b can not create an iso file, it only burn iso to cd or dvds
[03:21] <Slasher`> hi all, does anyone know how to get the 2580 AuthenTec, Inc. to work? if so could you please give me a helping hand to get it working.
[03:22] <soundray> Blauhaut: yes, it can create an iso file.
[03:22] <Blauhaut> soundray; can you show me how ?
[03:22] <soundray> Blauhaut: give me a minute
[03:23] <indra> alooooooo
[03:23] <mahound> hello
[03:23] <Blauhaut> soundray; ok
[03:23] <mahound> i'm having some problems with bcm43xx
[03:23] <Slasher`> ah
[03:23] <Slasher`> i have that chipset also
[03:23] <Slasher`> 2 secs
[03:23] <mahound> something like "TODO: Incomplete code in keymac_write()..."
[03:23] <mahound> ok
[03:23] <LDS_Trooper> Morning, how do I access Unicode in Gedit?
[03:23] <Slasher`> ah
[03:23] <Slasher`> hmm
[03:23] <Slasher`> did it ever work before?
[03:23] <mahound> Slasher`, yes
[03:24] <toddy> Hello all!I'm installing my minix for the first time!a problem appeared:Autopart tool failed!Any help?
[03:24] <mahound> with kubuntu
[03:24] <Slasher`> strange
[03:24] <chrisb17> how do i rip a music cd to mp3?
[03:24] <mahound> now ubuntu feisty is not working
[03:24] <chrisb17> (for meh ipod....)
[03:24] <mahound> chrisb17, grip
[03:24] <chrisb17> grip?
[03:24] <Slasher`> are you using wlassistant/wifi-radar?
[03:24] <soundray> Blauhaut: Tools-Copy DVD. Tick "Only create image".
[03:24] <Frogzoo> chrisb17: sound juicer ftw
[03:24] <nephish> sound juicer is good too, but i think you have to have lame installed for the mp3 part
[03:25] <Slasher`> cause the default network manager thing didnt work for me
[03:25] <mahound> yes, grip, it's a cd ripping program
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> mahound: Did you use fwcutter to install it?
[03:25] <Slasher`> i installed http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=30908&d=1177587401 and wifi-radar
[03:25] <chrisb17> sound juicer won't let me Frogzoo
[03:25] <mahound> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[03:25] <riaal> anyone running ubuntu on a macbook?
[03:25] <indra> aloo
[03:25] <MenZa> riaal: I've heard of people doing it.
[03:25] <LDS_Trooper> Morning, how do I access Unicode in Gedit?
[03:26] <chrisb17> does flac == mp3?
[03:26] <Ace2016> hi all
[03:26] <soundray> riaal: tuxmobil.org has links to lots of installation reports
[03:26] <Pete986> I'm trying to connect to the internet with Ubuntu(so I can download NTFS 3G and use my external HD), but for some reason it's not working.
[03:26] <Ace2016> echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[03:26] <Ace2016> when i run that i see nothing
[03:26] <Fator_Dee> chrisb17: no
[03:26] <Ace2016> why??? how can i fix my paths???
[03:26] <kdubois> chrisb17: i dont think so. i think flac is an aac decoder?
[03:26] <mahound> Sok, thanks Slasher`
[03:26] <ntbnnt> ... Pete986 wireless or wired ...
[03:26] <mahound> *ok
[03:26] <LDS_Trooper> anyone?
[03:26] <Pete986> ntbnnt> wired
[03:26] <chrisb17> nope :(
[03:26] <soundray> Ace2016: what makes you think you should see something?
[03:26] <toddy> Hello all!I'm installing my minix for the first time!a problem appeared:Autopart tool failed!Any help?
[03:26] <Slasher`> np mahound
[03:27] <MenZa> !ubuntu | toddy
[03:27] <ubotu> toddy: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Pete986: How are you trying to install it?
[03:27] <chrisb17> how do i make it rip mp3 lol, i need my music LMAO
[03:27] <MenZa> This is not MINIX. :)
[03:27] <eRazor> Hi all
[03:27] <Ace2016> soundray: its the pkgconfig paths that configure scripts look in
[03:27] <Blauhaut> soundray;  thank you so much :)
[03:27] <Sivik> chrisb17, have u tried searching google for this information before asking in here?
[03:27] <Ace2016> what do you get when you run it??/
[03:27] <ntbnnt> Pete986, run ipconfig and see what comes up
[03:27] <chrisb17> yeah
[03:27] <toddy> Oh God!
[03:27] <soundray> Ace2016: it's empty, like it should be.
[03:27] <Slasher`> chrisb17, it might pay to check ubuntuguide.org
[03:28] <chrisb17> i installed like 12 different things (lol) and none of them like me
[03:28] <soundray> Ace2016: what are you compiling?
[03:28] <Sivik> chrisb17, what programs?
[03:28] <eRazor> can someone help me in installing Apache, MySQL and PHP and get it running properly on Feisty
[03:28] <Sivik> chrisb17, and what do u mean they didn't work
[03:28] <eRazor> ???
[03:28] <kost_> hey al i have a problem with the installtion.
[03:28] <Ace2016> compiz
[03:28] <Sivik> chrisb17, k3b is a good program for isos and burning cds
[03:28] <Ace2016> fusion
[03:28] <Pete986> Jack_Sparrow> I don't know how it works with Ubuntu, but with this PC I just get the IP etc automatically, upon plugging it in.
[03:28] <soundray> !lamp > eRazor, please read the private message from ubotu
[03:28] <Xoris> toddy, if this were a microkernel help channel, we'd have like 20 subchannels for each service
[03:28] <chrisb17> i don't remember the list..., but none of them gave me an option of ripping mp3's
[03:28] <Gamienator> Hi There
[03:28] <Sivik> chrisb17, and i use ripperx to rip my cds to mp3s
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Pete986: How are you here.. not the same pc?
[03:28] <chrisb17> and Sivik i love k3b :D
[03:28] <Gamienator> habe the ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x 3D Rendering Support ?
[03:29] <Sivik> chrisb17, ripping mp3s from where, a cd?  ripperx will do that
[03:29] <Pete986> Jack_Sparrow> Yes, different PC.
[03:29] <chrisb17> cd :D
[03:29] <chrisb17> and i am checking out ripperx :D
[03:29] <Alloosh> Hi all
[03:29] <LDS_Trooper> chrisb17, type "rip mp3" into the search of "add/remove" under applications
[03:29] <Sivik> chrisb17, i use ripperx, u can get it from the repos
[03:29] <Alloosh> would someone please please help me share files betwee\n my ubuntu and xp ?
[03:29] <toddy> Xoris, what does that mean?
[03:29] <chrisb17> i am sivik
[03:29] <chrisb17> :D
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Pete986: Get a copy of Knoppix with ntfs-3g ... less hasslele at this point
[03:29] <kost_> I burned the cd 2 times because i though it was something like bad burn etc. Now when i am 100% sure its written prorperly, I boot from cd select start & install linux and then i get a black screen and my monitor shuts down. Any ides?
[03:29] <Alloosh> I give up
[03:29] <Sivik> chrisb17, or via aptitude(apt-cache if you like that) search mp3 | rip
[03:30] <Alloosh> iam trying since ever
[03:30] <Alloosh> anybody willing to help
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[03:30] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:30] <Sivik> Alloosh, whats your problem?
[03:30] <cafuego> !now
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about now - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <chrisb17> sivik its mp3 | grep rip (lol)
[03:30] <cafuego> ... figures.
[03:30] <Sivik> kost_, what program u burning with?
[03:30] <kost_> If you could help me i would be more than gratefull
[03:31] <kaos> hey can anyone help me with a broadcom wireless card problem
[03:31] <Sivik> chrisb17, yeah, thats right
[03:31] <kost_> ehmm
[03:31] <kost_> Nero
[03:31] <kost_> 7
[03:31] <kost_> Reloaded
[03:31] <kane77> hi.. I'm trying to install the ndiswrapper for broadcom 1390 wireless card.. what does it mean when after ndiswrapper -l I get "device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)"?? (i mean the alternate driver part)
[03:31] <Sivik> kost_, thats cause nero blows, are you burning as a bootable or as a image
[03:31] <gilster> hello i am trying to stream a movie from a site in firefox but it demands a video/divx plugin....can someone tell me what i need. I already have all the gstreatmer libs installed!!?
[03:31] <Alloosh> Hi SIvik, I have ubuntu on one machin and xp on the other, iam new to ubuntu and I want to have internet connection on both and be able to share files and folders
[03:31] <kost_> as image
[03:31] <Fator_Dee> Paddy_EIRE: ok, reinstall complete, all smooth like a baby's bottom
[03:31] <Fator_Dee> data loss zero
[03:31] <kost_> oh and i burned once with poweriso
[03:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Fator_Dee: cool, nice one
[03:31] <soundray> kost_: have you tried the Safe graphics boot option?
[03:31] <kost_> nop
[03:31] <Fator_Dee> and nice to have them kde confs already :-p
[03:32] <Sivik> Alloosh, install a thing called samba on the ubuntu machine, u can share folders that way
[03:32] <kblin> hi
[03:32] <Alloosh> I have it installed
[03:32] <Sivik> Alloosh, and do u have a router or something that can assign an ip address via dhcp for both machines
[03:32] <kost_> ill try once again with safe graphics
[03:32] <kost_> brb
[03:32] <Alloosh> but still cant get the network to work
[03:32] <Sivik> Alloosh, is it detecting your nic?
[03:32] <Alloosh> I see that I have windows network in the network but cant open it
[03:32] <LDS_Trooper> how can I change permissions on a harddisc?
[03:32] <Alloosh> I have dsl router
[03:32] <Xoris> !permissions
[03:32] <kaos> lds chmod
[03:32] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[03:32] <kblin> can someone recommend me a program to create presentations? I don't really get along well with OOo
[03:33] <Alloosh> I dont know
[03:33] <gilster> hello i am trying to stream a movie from a site in firefox but it demands a video/divx plugin....can someone tell me what i need. I already have all the gstreatmer libs installed!!?
[03:33] <Alloosh> Iam new to ubuntu
[03:33] <LDS_Trooper> Xoris, will that allow me to write to my windows partition?
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> kblin: i think scribus can
[03:33] <kaos> so can anyone help me with a broacom wireless card problem?
[03:33] <nulla> exit
[03:33] <soundray> kblin: do you get along with LaTeX?
[03:33] <kaos> lds to write to your windows partition just mount it as rw
[03:33] <Xoris> kblin: i don't think there are many other alternatives in a usable state. you could try koffice i suppose... there's also some GNOME presentation app i don't remember the name of, but last time i tried it it was unusable
[03:34] <Alloosh> can I at least connect the two machines using a direct cable
[03:34] <LDS_Trooper> kaos, how?
[03:34] <Alloosh> I connect to internet on ubuntu using USB
[03:34] <IdleOne> !samba | Alloosh
[03:34] <ubotu> Alloosh: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Alloosh: seems to be a whole handling
[03:34] <kblin> Xoris: yeah, that was my impression... pity
[03:34] <Alloosh> so I have lan free on both computers
[03:34] <Alloosh> well
[03:34] <kaos> mount -o rw /dev/hda(whatever partiition it is usually 1) /mnt/hda1
[03:34] <Slasher`> kblin, you could always use M$ office with crossover office
[03:35] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Please use Gnome Search Tool to find /var/log/suspend2ram.log. How does it call the 'Type' of this file in English? 'application protocol'?
[03:35] <Alloosh> I would be very glad if some one can connect to my machine and do it for me
[03:35] <kblin> Slasher`: to prepare a talk for LinuxConf? I don't think so :)
[03:35] <Slasher`> ahh nooo
[03:35] <Slasher`> definitely not lmao
[03:35] <Slasher`> \
[03:35] <LDS_Trooper> kaos,  thanks
[03:35] <Xoris> kblin: TeX :)
[03:35] <[andres] > if I'm having problems starting gnome-session, what logs should I look in for clues to what it could be?
[03:35] <[andres] > it just hangs
[03:36] <bullgard4> [andres] : Try kern.log
[03:36] <kblin> Xoris: I'm currently use LaTeX beamer. but not being able to put my images where I want them on my slide is starting to really annoy me
[03:36] <kaos> can anyone please help me with my broadcom wireless ive tried installing the firmware and now i have ndiswrapper installed and it says its installed ok but no joy with finding the network
[03:36] <kblin> s/use/using/
[03:36] <Helmi> hi guys
[03:36] <gilo2> Does Ubuntu take advantage of the Core 2 Quad procesors?
[03:36] <[andres] > bullgard4: thanks. I'll try that.
[03:36] <soundray> gilo2: yes
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> kaos: You dont use ndiswrapper for that card... you should have used fwcutter...
[03:37] <Slasher`> kaos, are you using wlassistant (kde) or wifi-radar (gnome) to scan for networks?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[03:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:37] <kaos> jack i tried but it didnt work either
[03:37] <IdleOne> soundray, do you know where I can make a feature request for a package?
[03:37] <Xoris> kblin: if you can get along with using some separate program to *show* the presentation, you could always use DTP software to *create* it... dunno, Scribus for instance
[03:37] <kaos> jack ive followed them docs aswell and i still get nowhere
[03:37] <soundray> IdleOne: on launchpad, file a wishlist bug
[03:37] <gilo2> soundray:thanks
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> kaos: Then it was something you tried or did before you used it.
[03:37] <IdleOne> soundray, ty
[03:37] <genii> Look in /var/log/messages /var/log/dmesg /var/log/faillog /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:38] <kaos> any ideas how to reverse whatever i did
[03:38] <kaos> the only thing i have don is that and ndis
[03:38] <Helmi> i'm wondering why javascript slows down my ubuntu feisty so dramatically in firefox. i just tried typing in a vbulletin forum with wysiwyg editor enabled. using the wysiwyg editor the cursor pauses every 2-3 seconds for about 2 seconds and then continues. switching the wysiwyg off solves the problem. this is just an example - i noticed hard slowdown on javascript stuff also on other websites. anyone with an idea?
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> kaos: What about things like wifi radar.. install any of that?
[03:38] <kaos> no
[03:39] <bullgard4> [andres] : Try also /var/log/messages. (The output of both overlap.) Where to look first depends also on the very nature of the hang.
[03:39] <sharperguy> how do  i add a user to a group from the command line?
[03:39] <soundray> sharperguy: adduser name group
[03:40] <soundray> sharperguy: (with sudo of course)
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> kaos: No idea on how to undo what all you have done...  I do know fwcutter has worked every time I have tried it..  HAve you ever used scripts like automatix or envy (both bad ideas by the way)
[03:40] <sharperguy> soundray, even if that user already exists?
[03:40] <soundray> sharperguy: yes
[03:40] <genii> sharperguy: If it's an existing user look up syntax for command usermod
[03:40] <Helmi> sharperguy, must be usermod then i think
[03:40] <sharperguy> soundray, ok ty
[03:40] <Helmi> try man usermod
[03:40] <sharperguy> hmm
[03:40] <kaos> ahh no but i used something called bcm43xx-gtk-installer-0.2
[03:40] <sharperguy> ok
[03:40] <bullgard4> soundray: Do you know the adduser command?
[03:40] <kblin> Xoris: the thing is that I don't want to care about the placement of stuff most of the time.. just sometimes I care, and that's where TeX is lacking
[03:40] <soundray> sharperguy: adduser is fine, don't have to usermod
[03:41] <sharperguy> adduser worked
[03:41] <soundray> bullgard4: what do you mean?
[03:41] <kaos> i will try uninstalling ndis and fwcutter then just installing fwcutter and extracting the firmware
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kaos: Try to remember everything you tried and installed and try to undo it.. search synaptic for anythin bcm43  etc...
[03:41] <bullgard4> soundray: There is a command called 'adduser'.
[03:42] <[andres] > bullgard4: kern.log is all quiet. message says something about "resolved address to a read-only configuration source at position"
[03:42] <soundray> bullgard4: why are you telling me? I just recommended that to sharperguy
[03:42] <kaos> thanks jack probably be back in a minute
[03:42] <IRC_> anyone, how to know the system configuration on linux
[03:42] <sharperguy> soundray, bullgard4 rofl
[03:43] <IRC_> anyone, what is the command to know system configuration on linux ?
[03:43] <IRC_> somebody, what is the command to know system configuration on linux ?
[03:43] <dgjones> !repeat | IRC
[03:43] <ubotu> IRC: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:43] <[andres] > IRC_: what are you talking about?
[03:43] <bullgard4> soundray: I made a mistake. I changed you and sharperguy.
[03:43] <IRC_> i wanna know my system configuration?
[03:44] <Dr_willis> IRC_,  clarify what you mean by that vague term.
[03:44] <[andres] > what is a system configuration?
[03:44] <XLV> IRC_, you mean a hardware audit?
[03:44] <jhaig> IRC_:What exactly do you want to know?
[03:44] <IRC_> ya
[03:44] <IRC_> i wanna know my RAM and Processor ?
[03:44] <XLV> IRC_, dmesg will provide info on what hardware kernel finds
[03:44] <Dr_willis> lspci = normally used to see hardware (well the pci stuff)
[03:44] <Frogzoo> IRC_: lshw & lspci
[03:44] <dgjones> IRC_, have a look at the command hwinfo running in a terminal, that gives plenty of info about what hardware you've got
[03:45] <[andres] > cat /proc/cpuinfo for the cpu stuff
[03:45] <Frogzoo> lshw or hwinfo ?
[03:45] <IRC_> ok
[03:46] <kost_> Ok guys, i tried to boot in safe graphics mode i see the 2 lines loading but then my monitor goes off but the pc still run. What should i do?
[03:46] <soundray> I have two feisty installations. On one, I'm able to compile a program just fine. On the other, it fails with an "error: fabs was not declared in this scope". How do I work out what's missing on the latter installation?
[03:46] <chrisb17> how come when i use amarok some of my songs don't copy to my new ipod shuffle but amarok says they are there?
[03:46] <anandanbu> How to force mount a partition using ntfs-3g in Ubuntu 7.04
[03:47] <Dr_willis> force mount? Hmm
[03:47] <kost_> Should I try to download and use 32bit version?
[03:47] <chrisb17> anandanbu, very carefully :), but ntfs + linux = experimental at best......
[03:48] <kost_> help me
[03:48] <soundray> kost_: no, if that was the problem, it would tell you. Try modifying the kernel command line (F6 I think) and add 'vga=ask'.
[03:48] <Xoris> kblin: i see there's a couple of obscure packages as well, such as pyslide and pyntor... no idea how well they'd work or how awkward the syntax is, though.
[03:48] <Frogzoo> soundray: you could diff 'dpkg --get-selections'
[03:48] <Slasher`> hi all, does anyone know how to get the 2580 AuthenTec, Inc. to work? if so could you please give me a helping hand to get it working.
[03:49] <soundray> Frogzoo: yes, I've done that along with a grep -- -dev. Without it, the list is quite big.
[03:49] <LDS_Trooper> I have some music files I bought from iTunes store. My iPod was stolen.... how can I access these music files in Ubuntu? (currently they are zipped on my windows comp)
[03:49] <kost_> ok Xoris i will try it right now where should i put vga=ask?
[03:50] <chrisb17> how come audacity + kubuntu runs into a lot of problems..., but ubuntu + audacity = no problems?
[03:50] <Xoris> soundray, fabs is in math.h if i'm not mistaken, so i don't see why it shouldn't be available if you have build-essential. and if you didn't have math.h, well it would tell you...
[03:50] <savetheWorld> LDS_Trooper: step 1: yu must avoid any missionary work , step 2 AFAIK itunes doesn't work on any Linux?
[03:50] <Frogzoo> soundray: also try README & INSTALL
[03:51] <soundray> kost_: I think you mean me. Look at the bottom of the boot screen, I think you have to hit F6
[03:51] <emil> Hey. I have a wireless network card, which has not been reconized by ubuntu. How can I install this? :S
[03:51] <soundray> Frogzoo: they aren't there, it's in-house software.
[03:51] <kost_> soundray yes.. i see and  then what will i see?
[03:51] <LDS_Trooper> savetheWorld, I'm not here as a missionary, 2, bummer thanks tho
[03:51] <soundray> Xoris: yeah, I've got math.h via build-essential on both.
[03:51] <MasterShrek> emil, youre going to have to be more specific than that, whats the relevant output of lspci -v
[03:51] <hsatera> anyone here uses google talk with voice?
[03:52] <savetheWorld> LDS_Trooper: Yes you are.  Thats why the LDS prefix :-)
[03:52] <soundray> kost_: the kernel boot command line. Append vga=ask to it
[03:52] <howlingmadhowie> off-topic: quick question: what's the current pacific time in america?
[03:52] <kost_> ok i will come back if it wont work
[03:52] <kost_> bbr
[03:52] <LDS_Trooper> savetheWorld, Not going to argue with you.. but no, I am not here as a missionary
[03:52] <MasterShrek> howlingmadhowie, 6:50am i believe
[03:52] <soundray> howlingmadhowie: its GMT-8 I think. Search the web for "world time"
[03:52] <Frogzoo> soundray: libc6-dev
[03:53] <emil> MasterShrek, I'm pretty sure that it is one of the unknown devices..
[03:53] <Xoris> soundray: i suspected you did... now, the only things i can think of is either 1) it's not really the same program that you're compiling or 2) your RAM, or other hardware, is bad, and GCC is known to often make RAM errors quite visible
[03:53] <soundray> Frogzoo: is installed.
[03:53] <howlingmadhowie> oo! that early? then i haven't missed the launch of the T2 :)
[03:53] <savetheWorld> LDS_Trooper: Trust me sonny you have know idea how you're being used.   :-)
[03:53] <emil> I have tried doing a "lspci -v | grep wi " for "wireless" but nothing showed
[03:53] <LDS_Trooper> savetheWorld, noted...
[03:53] <MasterShrek> emil, put the output of lspci -vv on pastebin (make sure you put 2 v's)
[03:54] <LDS_Trooper> savetheWorld, I'm 35 years old so I hope you are older than I to be calling me "sonny"
[03:54] <Dr_willis> 'darn kids! get off my lawn!'
[03:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:54] <XLV> LDS_Trooper, biological and mental age can be different
[03:54] <emil> MasterShrek, http://rafb.net/p/l4NQCK99.html <--
[03:54] <LDS_Trooper> XLV true enough
[03:55] <savetheWorld> LDS_Trooper: I am, but evenI weren't I'd still be calling you sonny for your naivete.
[03:55] <Frogzoo> soundray: you didn't miss ./configure ?
[03:55] <LDS_Trooper> XVL however, I came here to get help with my Ubuntu not to be pestered about religion
[03:55] <soundray> Xoris: I've made sure I downloaded the same archive onto both machines.
[03:55] <Rayyan> !beryl
[03:55] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:55] <Lifehacker> PhilKC, I have some query with respect to my cloak. Can I pm?
[03:55] <soundray> Frogzoo: no, it doesn't do anything unless you configure it with ccmake.
[03:56] <AyoTechnology> Hello
[03:56] <Xoris> soundray, dunno, write a .c test file with #include <math.h>, int main() { printf("%f\n", fabs(10.3)) }, and compile with gcc -lm. at least you'll see if there's actually a problem with fabs
[03:56] <AyoTechnology> I'm afraid of changing the resolution
[03:56] <soundray> Xoris: as for the RAM, I doubt that it is bad. The machine runs rock-solid with everything else.
[03:56] <Frogzoo> soundray: fabs is declared in /usr/include/tgmath.h
[03:57] <soundray> Xoris: will try that, thanks
[03:57] <MasterShrek> emil, sorry i have no idea, i dont see anything in there that looks like a wifi card
[03:57] <imslow3r> !radeon
[03:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:57] <soundray> Frogzoo: yes, I've tried to #include it in the file that is flagged, but I'd rather make sure that the two installations are equal, if I can.
[03:58] <emil> MasterShrek, My neither... But I know it is there, because it was there when the computer came with the Vista virus installed
[03:59] <AyoTechnology> I have currently 1280x1024@60HZ but I want 1024x768@85HZ, but the last time I changed the resolution the screen turned black and nothing happened then. I changed the resolution from system->settings->resolution
[03:59] <AyoTechnology> Can somebody help me??
[03:59] <Xoris> soundray: well anyway tgmath.h shouldn't *have* to be included manually, math.h is enough to get fabs(). to make sure the installations are both valid, you could also try "debsums". and i would also try diffing dpkg --get-selections, not just with -dev...
[03:59] <Dr_willis> AyoTechnology,  this is on a lcd monitor?
[03:59] <newbe5> you have a great big CRT screen?
[03:59] <XLV> emil, winstron is a known maker of wireless cards
[03:59] <stelki> Hm, how do I install the nvidia drivers? I tried installing nvidia-glx, but it bugs me about nvidia kernel module and X module not being same version
[03:59] <AyoTechnology> no a CRT monitor
[03:59] <Cocytus> stelki: try using envy
[04:00] <AyoTechnology> it supports 1024x768@85HZ in windows
[04:00] <emil> XLV, Do you know of any packages that might help me get it to be recognized?
[04:00] <AyoTechnology> I have a fresh installher
[04:00] <AyoTechnology> here
[04:00] <XLV> emid, you got to find on what chip is based on, but usually they make cards based on atheros chips
[04:01] <LDS_Trooper> savetheWorld, if I were to burn the songs to a disc thru iTune... I could rip them in Ubuntu right?
[04:01] <XLV> LDS_Trooper, itunes has some drm on their songs afaik, you got to break that first
[04:01] <stelki> Cocytus: whats that?
[04:02] <ioanbsu> wana be an admin of this chat -- press    alt+f4
[04:02] <LDS_Trooper> XLV, even from a CD Rip?
[04:02] <MasterShrek> u shold be able to do it if u burn them to a cd first LDS_Trooper
[04:02] <XLV> LDS_Trooper, depends, if your settings were to add drm to songs ripped
[04:02] <LDS_Trooper> MasterShrek, thanks
[04:02] <savetheWorld> LDS_Trooper: The discs will turn into golds plates with mysterious writing on them. You will insist that no onew but you (who are nearly illiterate) can read them and wont let anyone see them.  But you will string a blanket across your kitchen and "read"them to someone else to write down what it says... :-)
[04:03] <AyoTechnology> so any help? maybe this was a dumb question, but I'm new to ubuntu, installed it yesterday
[04:03] <LDS_Trooper> savetheWorld, can you please drop it? I am just looking for help not hostility
[04:03] <Xoris> soundray: also if you *really* want to make sure the installations are the same... try something like find -xdev / | xargs -n 1 md5sum >machine1 - same on machine2, and diff the two ;)
[04:03] <XLV> emid, if its a laptop, many have wireless devices connected internally to usb, instead of mini pci
[04:03] <_da> my RW DVD door wont open, any ideas?
[04:03] <craigbass1976> I want to use ubuntu as an answering machine.  This is only possible with a voice modem, right?  Data/fax alone won't cut it?
[04:03] <soundray> Xoris: I'm having trouble with your sample program, too... Can we meet in #ubuntu-classroom?
[04:03] <XLV> emid, so try lsusb also
[04:03] <savetheWorld> LDS origins are almost as funny as scientologies. :-), except Scientology never slaughtered a migrating group of families who had already surrendered to them...
[04:04] <jrib> !offtopic | savetheWorld
[04:04] <ubotu> savetheWorld: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:04] <stelki> !nvidia
[04:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:04] <LDS_Trooper> You almost done?
[04:04] <savetheWorld> LDS_Trooper: never sonny :-)
[04:04] <savetheWorld> LDS_Trooper: Start reading.
[04:05] <jrib> savetheWorld: stop please... keep it related to ubuntu support in here
[04:05] <LDS_Trooper> thank-you
[04:05] <savetheWorld> jrib: please ask him to stop proesytizing
[04:05] <savetheWorld> *proselytizing
[04:05] <LDS_Trooper> I haven't
[04:06] <savetheWorld> LDS_Trooper: You keep announcing the name of your church in here. Thats proselytizing
[04:06] <AyoTechnology> howto change the resolution without getting a black screen of nothing????
[04:06] <Xoris^> craigbass1976: there is such thing as a data/fax modem without voice support? :o)
[04:06] <stelki> !nvidia
[04:06] <_da> savetheworld  the LDS church is true...
[04:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:06] <anzan>  !botsnack
[04:06] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:07] <LDS_Trooper> ok seriously.. I only came for help in Ubuntu... this has never been an issue before
[04:07] <stelki> Oi, take the religious talk somewhere else ;)
[04:07] <jrib> LDS_Trooper: he's gone now
[04:07] <LDS_Trooper> jrib, thanks
[04:08] <craigbass1976> Xoris, I guess.  not sure really.  I've got two identicle modems.  Both cockers.  USR serial data/fax.  Like $80 new, one I got free, and the other I paid $30.
[04:08] <Hemanth> help me
[04:08] <stelki> Ahh nevermind my nvidia question, apparently it has some problems with 8600GT
[04:08] <LDS_Trooper> So any idea on how to access Unicode Characters in Ubuntu? GEdit will not allow me to do it with the ALT+#
[04:08] <dgjones> !helpme | Hemanth
[04:08] <Hemanth> ubuntu and ADSL
[04:08] <ubotu> Hemanth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:09] <Xoris^> craigbass1976: what do you mean cockers? external? they don't have mic/spk jacks?
[04:09] <Hemanth> network is not active everything is fine.....i have a ADASl modem its working fine
[04:09] <Hemanth> *ADSL
[04:10] <craigbass1976> Xoris, cockers -> They're good.  Yes, external. No on the mic speaker jacks
[04:10] <IdleOne> !adsl | Hemanth
[04:10] <ubotu> Hemanth: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:10] <jrib> LDS_Trooper: ctrl-shift-u
[04:10] <Sivik> !ADSL
[04:10] <AyoTechnology> help
[04:10] <IdleOne> !help
[04:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:10] <Sivik> AyoTechnology, whats the issue
[04:10] <Hemanth> i tired tht
[04:11] <AyoTechnology> I don't know howto change resolution, 60HZ kills my eyes
[04:11] <IdleOne> Hemanth, then without giving more specific info on your issue I think you will be S.O.L.
[04:11] <LDS_Trooper> jrib,  thanks again
[04:11] <IdleOne> !fixres | AyoTechnology
[04:11] <ubotu> AyoTechnology: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:11] <_da> where you live LDS_Trooper?
[04:11] <kost_> sound
[04:11] <kost_> i still have the prob
[04:11] <LDS_Trooper> Alberta Canada
[04:11] <AyoTechnology> but the last time I changed resolution i needed to reboot, cuz the screen turrned black
[04:12] <kost_> i put vga=ask
[04:12] <kost_> :|
[04:12] <LDS_Trooper> PM me if you wish
[04:12] <kost_> but nothing happened
[04:12] <AyoTechnology> howto type when screen is black then??
[04:12] <Hemanth> i have a ADSL modem ...i have connected it using USB port its been detected there...i configured the ip also
[04:12] <_da> wow, I'm a texan
[04:12] <LDS_Trooper> Pm me so we can keep this to Ubuntu
[04:13] <kost_> soundrat
[04:13] <animal> hello can someone help me install a driver for my webcam ?
[04:13] <kost_> soundray
[04:13] <_da> what does PM mean?
[04:13] <dgjones> !webcam | animal
[04:13] <ubotu> animal: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:13] <Sivik> _da, private message
[04:13] <Hemanth> idle one : i have a ADSL modem ...i have connected it using USB port its been detected there...i configured the ip also
[04:13] <animal> DGJONES thank you
[04:13] <AyoTechnology> yuhuuuu I changed the resolution
[04:13] <ntbnnt> _da, not in here
[04:13] <Hemanth> <Idle one> i have a ADSL modem ...i have connected it using USB port its been detected there...i configured the ip also
[04:14] <soundray> kost_: mo, busy
[04:14] <awerner32> what is the channel name for off topic
[04:14] <kost_> ok when you can plz talk to m
[04:14] <dgjones> !offtopic | awerner32
[04:14] <ubotu> awerner32: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:14] <awerner32> #offtopic
[04:14] <LDS_Trooper> _da if you are in XChat look at the left side panel
[04:14] <_da> LDS_Trooper go to #ubuntu -offtopic
[04:14] <VINCHENZO28> how do i install flash plugin for 64 bit firefox?
[04:14] <jrib> !flash > VINCHENZO28 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:15] <imslow3r> Hemanth: did your adsl router come with software?
[04:15] <ntbnnt> (
[04:15] <ntbnnt>     [0]  => .
[04:15] <ntbnnt>     [1]  => ..
[04:15] <ntbnnt>     [2]  => blue // this is a dir
[04:15] <VINCHENZO28> !flash
[04:15] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:15] <jrib> VINCHENZO28: the flash page will link you to nspluginwrapper as one of the ways, that's what I prefer to use
[04:15] <Hemanth> yes
[04:15] <Xoris^> craigbass1976: http://www.querycat.com/faq/fe82d6d01fe8b64ed25230e1d788c2f3 (you don't have hyperterminal of course - use minicom)
[04:15] <Hemanth> yes
[04:15] <LDS_Trooper> jrib, thanks for your help this morning.
[04:15] <imslow3r> well dude, you have to contact your service provider
[04:16] <jrib> LDS_Trooper: np
[04:16] <awerner32> ok say i by accident deleted the mbr of a drive and so the partitions don't exist anymore but there is still a ton of data i need off of the drive is there a way to just make it NTFS again and then somehow refind all of the files
[04:16] <LDS_Trooper> Maybe one day I can come here to help out rather than add to the stream of questions.
[04:17] <LDS_Trooper> later all
[04:17] <Dr_willis> awerner32,  you may want to 'dd' the drive to a file. and try any recover/rescue attempts on the file
[04:17] <hsatera> !nvidia
[04:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
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[04:18] <awerner32> Dr_willis, what do you mean dd, and how do i do that
[04:19] <imslow3r> hemanth: just do that they probly don't charge anything for tech support
[04:19] <awerner32> direct dump?
[04:19] <Dr_willis> dd lets you dump a whole drive to a file. You proberly need to do some googling on drive/filesystem rescue methods/tips,
[04:19] <Dr_willis>  ive never done what you are trying to do.
[04:19] <soundray> kost_: so you entered vga=ask, hit return and tried to boot with that?
[04:20] <Hemanth> imslow3r: in my country they r not aware of linux :9 i have to teach them ...i m the tech support ...
[04:20] <imslow3r> hemanth: well patients is a virture
[04:21] <preferred> <-- needs help.
[04:21] <Hemanth> imslow3r: wht to do
[04:22] <inqui> :D hi all:
[04:22] <inqui> got problem with my usb storage device ... it has 5 partitions on it.
[04:22] <inqui> and everytime i reconnect it to usb they are mountet in a different way to the exsiting mount points
[04:22] <Ellothar121> Does anyone here know what to do if you want to uninstall Ubuntu (7.04) from a partition?
[04:22] <Hemanth> imslow3r: i instald the same in my friendz place it worked well....is a ethernet card a must...doe it not work with USB?
[04:22] <kitche> Ellothar121: you just delete all the files
[04:22] <imslow3r> hemanth: i was thinking the same thing
[04:23] <raxip> Hello
[04:23] <kitche> Ellothar121: or reformat the partition
[04:23] <inqui> i want -for example - dev/sdb6 always to be mountet on media/disk-5
[04:23] <Ellothar121> Kitche, I've done that. I've reformatted the section, but it gives me a Grub Error.
[04:23] <imslow3r> hemanth: you may need an ethernet card
[04:23] <Hemanth> imslow3r : how can i send u private msg
[04:23] <kitche> Ellothar121: yes of course it will you need to reinstall your bootloader
[04:23] <Ellothar121> How would I do that?
[04:23] <raxip> don't know
[04:23] <imslow3r> register with freenode
[04:24] <Ellothar121> I'm sorry, I'm new to the whole linux scene.
[04:24] <perl_cont> hello
[04:24] <Tremitos> sup?
[04:24] <kitche> Ellothar121: well what do you want to use?
[04:24] <perl_cont> not sure
[04:24] <Tremitos> good
[04:24] <Ellothar121> I'm using Windows Vista on my largest partition.
[04:24] <digip1mp> hrm
[04:25] <Hemanth> imslow3r: how to register for this?
[04:25] <Ellothar121> Gigabyte Motherboard, Western Digital Caviar 160GB HDD.
[04:25] <dgjones> !register | Hemanth
[04:25] <ubotu> Hemanth: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:25] <kitche> Ellothar121: well boot into Vista cd and go to recovery console and type in fixmbr/fixboot should fix it I believe
[04:25] <Ellothar121> Okay, thank you!
[04:25] <Rayyan> !envy
[04:25] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[04:25] <kost_> soundray: i typed vga=ask and then i hit space to continue.
[04:25] <Ellothar121> I will try that now.
[04:25] <inqui> how to ensure to load /dev/sdb6 always to the same mount point on /media/ ??
[04:26] <imslow3r> hemanth: don't worry i have no solution anyways
[04:26] <imslow3r> hemanth: you need a linux compatable ethernet to USB adapter
[04:26] <jhaig> inqui: Is it a removable disk?
[04:27] <inqui> yes
[04:27] <imslow3r> hemanth: good luck with that
[04:27] <inqui> usb storage device 500gb mybook
[04:27] <bnnagabhushan> hey help on yahoo voice chat on ubuntu
[04:27] <jhaig> inqui: You may be able to do it by writing it into your /etc/fstab file, but I don't know how that would work with the automounting stuff.
[04:27] <ShawnRisk> My wireless network connection is going nuts and  can't access this but I can access 3 other wireless networks. I am using NetGear WGR614 and Optus Cable.
[04:27] <Hemanth> imslow3r : my modem is detected
[04:27] <peepsalot> hey guys, i have a problem with networking.  sometimes(I think after resuming from suspend) Network Manager will tell me that no network devices are configured.  I thought that "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" would fix it, but it doesn't
[04:28] <kost_> Soundray here?
[04:28] <inqui> jhaig:  thank you
[04:28] <inqui> i will have a look at my options there
[04:28] <imslow3r> hemanth: give me the name and modle of your router?
[04:28] <bnnagabhushan> sombdy help on how to do voice chat on gaim
[04:28] <imslow3r> hemanth: i'm bord i'll help you look
[04:29] <derenrich> how do I update the mime types of files? My computer thinks some of my .php files a c++ source files and that is confusing apache and php
[04:29] <jhaig> inqui: Bear in mind that it might appear as /dev/sdc1 or something else, if you happen to have another removable media drive connected.
[04:30] <inqui> again @ all: is there a tool for adding an entry to etc/fstab
[04:30] <inqui> ?
[04:30] <inqui> jhaig:  yeah
[04:30] <Xoris^> inqui: a text editor? ;)
[04:31] <inqui> still this problem is manageable
[04:31] <Xoris^> inqui: no seriously, i think the GUI tool that used to be there is Hoary was pulled out since it was unmaintained. editing it manually is not that hard though
[04:31] <Xoris^> !fstab
[04:31] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:31] <inqui> but up to nonw i always had to mount the disc manually to ensure the programms find it in the right place
[04:31] <ALL4N> hey, I re-installed my system here, as a dualboot with Ubuntu and Windows..  but whenever I select windows from the grub menu it seems to take perhaps 5-10 minutes of waiting before the loading of the OS is starting..  I'm suspecting it might be because I had some EXT3 and Reiser partitions on the same and other HDs before installing the OS's..  did anyone else experience something like it?
[04:32] <imslow3r> hemanth: I've always used DHCP so I doubt I can help, I'm a noob :-)
[04:33] <jeeGr> hey i just changed to xfce does anybody know how to change the theme
[04:33] <IdleOne> jeeGr, right click on the desktop and select themes
[04:34] <Rayyan> guys can anyone help me know what graphic card i have?
[04:34] <IdleOne> or theme manager or something like that
[04:34] <imslow3r> ALL4N: 5 - 10 min to boot sounds like windows to me :_0
[04:34] <jeeGr> ok ill try that
[04:35] <imslow3r>  :-)
[04:35] <dphasewrk> anyone here had issues compiling the interfaces for vmwareserver on gutsy?  (i've patched with any-any-update)
[04:35] <ALL4N> imslow3r: yah, its not my primary OS..  but want it for some other apps I'm running and gaming..  the thing is..  it seems to be waiting this long before even starting the boot-up process itself
[04:35] <SaraS> hell everyone
[04:36] <SaraS> i have a linksys wag200g
[04:36] <SaraS> i need to monitor the router activity and bandwidth
[04:36] <SaraS> i am using edgy
[04:36] <howlingmadhowie> Rayyan: have a look at the lshw command
[04:36] <Lifehacker> Hemanth,
[04:36] <Rayyan> lshw?
[04:36] <Rayyan> u mean i should type lshw in my terminal?
[04:36] <howlingmadhowie> Rayyan: have you ever used the terminal?
[04:36] <Rayyan> yeah but im still new to this :D
[04:37] <aneb> Hello.
[04:37] <IdleOne> Rayyan, yes lshw = list HardWare
[04:37] <SaraS> anyone?
[04:37] <Rayyan> alright thanks, it worked
[04:37] <howlingmadhowie> Rayyan: okay. don't worry :)
[04:37] <thavorn> I have setup openssh-server, how to tell someone is connected to my pc through ssh?
[04:38] <aneb> thavorn: last -i | grep username, also see w
[04:38] <howlingmadhowie> thavorn: i always look in the process table (ps aux) for an instance of the sshd
[04:38] <SaraS> i have a linksys wag200g router and i want to be able to monitor the router activity and bandwidth, how many devices are connected and whats the usage of every device etc....
[04:38] <aneb> howlingmadhowie: that's a bad way.
[04:38] <aneb> howlingmadhowie: and unintutitive
[04:38] <imslow3r> ALL4N: don't be a freedom hater :P
[04:38] <howlingmadhowie> aneb: yeah, it's a little unusual, but it works :)
[04:38] <thavorn> aneb: I am bour
[04:38] <thavorn> blur
[04:38] <aneb> howlingmadhowie: not really.
[04:38] <howlingmadhowie> aneb: and i can kick them out quickly too :)
[04:39] <thavorn> howlingmadhowie: blur
[04:39] <howlingmadhowie> aneb: but you're right, last is better
[04:39] <aneb> howlingmadhowie: the forking sshd does is just that - forking
[04:40] <thavorn> howlingmadhowie: any gui to monitor?
[04:40] <aneb> howlingmadhowie: and it might change
[04:40] <seon> how can i find a string inside some files from a directory?
[04:40] <ALL4N> imslow3r: sorry, not sure why you said I should not be a freedom hater
[04:40] <howlingmadhowie> thavorn: i don't know one. aneb might know of one, though
[04:40] <thavorn> aneb: any gui?
[04:40] <imslow3r> ALL4N: I don't give resons for my actions LOL
[04:40] <unimatrix9> hello every one
[04:40] <aneb> howlingmadhowie: so the best, non-implementation detail way to monitor from the cli is last -i or w
[04:40] <alecwh> Hello, I'm currently using the GNOME desktop environment, and I want to *try* KDE. Is there any way I can download the KDE environment, try it out, and remove it if I don't want it anymore?
[04:40] <thavorn> !openssh-server
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssh-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <aneb> thavorn: havent heard of one
[04:41] <Xoris^> seon: grep -R -F "string" directory/
[04:41] <unimatrix9> you can install KDE
[04:41] <aneb> alecwh: yeah.
[04:41] <thavorn> aneb: what site to read for this command
[04:41] <howlingmadhowie> aneb: yeah, i know. it just requires remembering another command
[04:41] <aneb> alecwh: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:41] <ggulmatt> hi
[04:41] <bittin> Why not install hole Kubuntu if u want KDE =)
[04:41] <bittin> hi ggulmatt
[04:42] <IdleOne> alecwh, you can sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ( WARNING: it will bring in a bunch of applications and your menus will be mixed KDE and GNOME )
[04:42] <alecwh> aneb, cool, and how do I start it after it's done downloading?
[04:42] <unimatrix9> how do i get info on xorg etc on the bash?
[04:42] <Sergiu1> hello
[04:42] <howlingmadhowie> unimatrix9: what do you mean by "info"?
[04:42] <alecwh> IdleOne: Ok, and after I probably decide I don't want it, what do I do?
[04:42] <aneb> alecwh: well, you'll need to restart X11 - ctrl+alt+bksp
[04:42] <kaos> can anyone help me with my broadcom wireless card?
[04:42] <Sergiu1> how to ping an ip with 65000 byte?
[04:42] <Xoris^> alecwh: just click Options in your login screen, and choose KDE as the session type
[04:42] <alecwh> ok
[04:42] <alecwh> cool
[04:42] <unimatrix9> uname -a for example gives info , but now i would like to know more about the xorg setings
[04:42] <IdleOne> alecwh, there is no easy way to remove all the kde apps and you will have to basically remove one at a time
[04:42] <alecwh> and after I'm done with KDE?
[04:43] <thavorn> howlingmadhowie: what is ps aux stands for?
[04:43] <alecwh> D=
[04:43] <aneb> alecwh: um, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:43] <howlingmadhowie> Sergiu1: doesn't "ping -s XXXXX" support packets up to 65000 byte?
[04:43] <alecwh> IdleOne: I don't know if it's worth it, my system is perfect right nwo
[04:43] <aneb> IdleOne: there is an easy way
[04:43] <bittin> alecwh: u can try
[04:43] <howlingmadhowie> thavorn: ps gives you a list of current processes
[04:43] <IdleOne> aneb, ?
[04:43] <aneb> IdleOne: i just gave the easy way
[04:43] <Hemanth> imslow3r : sorry for the late reply its an Huawei MT-882 USB remote NDIS router
[04:43] <bittin> i run Gnome on Ubuntu and KDE on Suse =)
[04:43] <alecwh> I just want to 'try' it.
[04:43] <alecwh> without consequences.
[04:43] <bittin> alecwh: Kubuntu Live-cd :)
[04:43] <Sergiu1> howlingmadhowie support
[04:43] <bittin> sounds best then ;)
[04:43] <imslow3r> hemanth: ok
[04:43] <kaos> can anyone help me with my broadcom wireless card?
[04:44] <SpyMasteR> Champions Legue is a Galatasaray
[04:44] <thavorn> howlingmadhowie: ps aux cannot see who and what IP address log in
[04:44] <IdleOne> aneb, I tried that and it didnt work for me to well but that was back in dapper days
[04:44] <aneb> IdleOne: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:44] <supaneko> OK... So I over-wrote my UDF kernel module with one that doesn't work and now I can't seem to figure out how to compile a new one.
[04:44] <supaneko> Any help?
[04:44] <alecwh> bittin, where is that?
[04:44] <SpyMasteR> Wawwwww
[04:44] <alecwh> !kubuntu
[04:44] <SpyMasteR> AS ROMA
[04:44] <aneb> IdleOne: well it should now
[04:44] <Hemanth> Lifehacker: sorry for the late reply its an Huawei MT-882 USB remote NDIS router
[04:44] <Sergiu1> howlingmadhowie don;t know
[04:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[04:44] <howlingmadhowie> thavorn: it should tell you who logged in, i thought
[04:44] <SpyMasteR> FUCK AS ROMA
[04:44] <howlingmadhowie> Sergiu1: try it out and see :)
[04:44] <jrib> !offtopic | SpyMasteR
[04:44] <ubotu> SpyMasteR: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:44] <IdleOne> !ops
[04:44] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[04:44] <Xoris^> !ops | SpyMasteR
[04:44] <aneb> !language | SpyMasteR
[04:44] <bittin> alecwh: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[04:44] <ubotu> SpyMasteR: please see above
[04:44] <Hemanth> imslow3r: :)
[04:44] <alecwh> ok, I'll try the live CD.
[04:44] <ubotu> SpyMasteR: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:44] <alecwh> thanks
[04:44] <supaneko> I can't seem to figure out how to compile the proper module. Nothing seems to work. :\
[04:45] <bittin> alecwh: and u can use a regular CD as live-cd u know :)
[04:45] <thavorn> daemon    5243  0.0  0.0   1912   424 ?        Ss   20:56   0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
[04:45] <aneb> Amaranth: thx
[04:45] <howlingmadhowie> Sergiu1: it works fine. ping <target> -s 65000
[04:45] <elkbuntu> IdleOne, that would have been dealt with quicker had you done !ops | reason
[04:45] <IdleOne> alecwh, try the cd and see if you like it then you can always install kubuntu to a seperate partiton
[04:45] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: Xoris^'s had it.  my client lagged
[04:45] <IdleOne> elkbuntu, I will try to remember for future
[04:45] <Xoris^> and i bet i'm more lagged than you all are :P
[04:46] <jeeGr> i dont know how to change my theme in xfce... does anybody know hot do that??
[04:46] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, i see that now. I just look to the line with the call on it, not the huge block of red that is the names ;)
[04:46] <PriitM> Hi, could someone help me with WINE?
[04:46] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:46] <magnetron> !ask | PriitM
[04:46] <ubotu> PriitM: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:46] <Dr_willis> xfce has its own controlpanel thing. its one of those icons somewhere. :)
[04:46] <Dr_willis> bbl
[04:47] <thavorn> I install fesity fawn 7.04 for ppc using alternate CD, results no sound output
[04:47] <genii> jeeGr: Maybe ask in #xubuntu
[04:47] <nephish> jeeGr_: right click the screen settings -->
[04:47] <howlingmadhowie> aneb: i'd also never looked at the options for "last". -i is really useful :)
[04:47] <kaos> can anyone help me with my broadcom wireless card?
[04:47] <seon> Xoris^>thanks how can i change the string in all the files find?
[04:47] <PriitM> Well I installed WINE and I can't find where to start it in graphical version. I would use command line wine, but the path is quite long and I woulndt bother typing that much each time.
[04:48] <imslow3r> hemanth: Huawei, has a support channel you could ask in there fourms
[04:48] <kaos> priit - system - preferences
[04:48] <Hemanth> imslow3r : kool did u get the link?
[04:48] <StarStyle> . 
[04:48] <Xoris^> seon: sed -i.backup "s/oldstring/newstring/g" <filename>  -  but note that "oldstring" won't really be a string, but a regular expression, so if you use anything else than just letters and numbers, you might need to escape those
[04:49] <K-4U> can somebody tell me how i can see my ubuntu-pc with a windows-pc?
[04:49] <SaraS> i have a linksys wag200g router and i want to be able to monitor the router activity and bandwidth, how many devices are connected and whats the usage of every device etc....
[04:49] <kaos> youll need a ext3 file system viewer
[04:49] <StarStyle> ND^^ ~ Hello
[04:49] <K-4U> i want to let this ubuntu-pc execute some servers
[04:49] <ND^^> ou my god
[04:49] <imslow3r> hemanth: http://support.huawei.com/
[04:49] <ND^^> 1106  )
[04:49] <K-4U> Teamspeak server and a SA:MP server
[04:49] <unimatrix9> PriitM , or do you mean config , winecfg ( from the terminal )
[04:49] <ND^^> omg
[04:50] <IdleOne> ND^^, what is wrong?
[04:50] <PriitM> well best would be if i knew the command for getting wine working in graphical mode
[04:50] <magnetron> !enter | ND^^ , K-4U
[04:50] <ubotu> ND^^ , K-4U: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:50] <StarStyle> Girls,where are you?)
[04:50] <Xoris^> PriitM: graphical mode?
[04:50] <kauer> K-4U: If you put the windows PC right beside the Ubuntu PC, you should be able to see the one with the other.
[04:50] <K-4U> sorry_
[04:50] <ND^^> As here it is a lot of you
[04:50] <Xoris^> StarStyle: that is Ubuntu related... how?
[04:50] <unimatrix9> PriitM , have a read http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wineusr-guide/config-wine-main
[04:50] <imslow3r> hemanth: http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=503416
[04:50] <kaos> can anyone help me with my broadcom wireless card i have used fwcutter and it recognises the wlan card but wont find the access point or anything?
[04:50] <StarStyle> =)
[04:50] <StarStyle> 
[04:50] <PriitM> ok
[04:50] <PriitM> thx
[04:51] <K-4U> kauer: it doesn't work.. i can't even ping to my PC
[04:51] <newbe5> K-4U: Both machines have picked up IP addresses via DHCP?
[04:51] <kauer> K4-u: That was a joke, sorry.
[04:51] <kaos> k-4u if you have router you need to enable port forwarding
[04:51] <K-4U> kauer: doh...
[04:51] <howlingmadhowie> ND^^: yep. today is free-donut-day in the ubuntu chatroom
[04:51] <Hemanth> slow3r : ill check out and ping u ok
[04:51] <K-4U> newbe, kaos: there is nothing wrong with the router.
[04:51] <Hobbsee> StarStyle: ...
[04:52] <newbe5> I didn't ask that
[04:52] <K-4U> newbe, kaos: they both are in the same router...
[04:52] <Hemanth> imsslow3r : ill check out and ping u ok
[04:52] <K-4U> newbe: yes @ dhcp
[04:52] <K-4U> sorry:P
[04:52] <ND^^> Very ridiculously
[04:52] <newbe5> doesn't mean they have both picked up IP addreses
[04:52] <newbe5> right ok
[04:52] <kaos> ip tables?
[04:52] <unimatrix9> can i call all the hardware info that HAL device manager gives from the bash somehow?
[04:52] <newbe5> the linux box set to allow IMCP?
[04:52] <kauer> K4-U: How are the two PCs networked? Please be specific. Wire, wireless? Can both of them see the Internet? At the same time?
[04:52] <newbe5> otherwise you won't be able to ping it
[04:52] <magnetron> unimatrix9: lspci will give you the most of it
[04:53] <unimatrix9> ok thanks
[04:53] <K-4U> kauer: both are wired. but ping doesn't work. although i can access internet from the ubuntu
[04:53] <newbe5> pinging which way?
[04:53] <kaos> can anyone help me with my broadcom wireless card i have used fwcutter and it recognises the wlan card but wont find the access point or anything?
[04:53] <ND^^> Here there are girls?
[04:53] <kauer> K-4U: Can you access the Internet from the windows box/
[04:53] <newbe5> ubuntu pinging windows or vice versa?
[04:53] <ND^^>  ?
[04:53] <bittin> ND^^: yea :D
[04:53] <StarStyle> ))
[04:53] <imslow3r> hemanth: download the manual from the last link I gave you
[04:53] <linux_> turboprint is free stuff ?
[04:53] <K-4U> newbe5: from windows to ubuntu
[04:53] <bittin> Hobbsee: =(
[04:53] <Hobbsee> bittin: ?
[04:54] <imslow3r> hemanth: then RTFM LOL
[04:54] <bittin> Hobbsee: let the boys flirt to me x)
[04:54] <newbe5> check your ubuntu network settings/firewall settings, it might be blocking IMCP traffic
[04:54] <Hobbsee> bittin: this is a support channel.  there are pleny of the other
[04:54] <bittin> :)
[04:54] <Hobbsee> bittin: elsewhere
[04:54] <bittin> haha ;)
[04:54] <K-4U> kauer: yes. windows pc works fine... but ubuntu can't see the windows pc's
[04:54] <bittin> true
[04:54] <cy_`> are there any nightly builds of the gutsy livecd?
[04:54] <Hemanth> imslow3r : hahaha how do i add u as a friend ?
[04:54] <unimatrix9> will we get bittin?
[04:54] <K-4U> newbe5: where should i do that?
[04:54] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:54] <bittin> unimatrix9: maybe
[04:55] <newbe5> ummm, can't remember, haven't got my ubuntu box fired up atm :P
[04:55] <kauer> K-4U: So: Both boxes have IP addresses. Both boxes can see the Internet. Neither box can ping the other. Is that right?
[04:55] <linux_> someone user turboprint ?
[04:55] <K-4U> kauer: yes, except for the pinging. Ubuntu CAN ping to windows. but not vice versa
[04:55] <Ellothar121_> Kitche: You rock!!!
[04:56] <newbe5> yea it's ubuntu's IMCP settings then
[04:56] <imslow3r> hemanth: idk i'm usually trolling IRC
[04:56] <newbe5> although someone else will have to tell you where to chance it, I can't rememebr :P
[04:56] <K-4U> newbe5, okay, thnx!
[04:56] <K-4U> kauer: do you know where that is?
[04:57] <Ellothar121_> kitche: Thank you for your help! My computer now works ^_^
[04:57] <kauer> K-4U: Does sound like a block. Thinking...
[04:57] <newbe5> im firing up my nix box now
[04:57] <K-4U> okay, thnx newbe:)
[04:57] <estefania> atf
[04:57] <estefania> wtf
[04:58] <ggulmatt> k
[04:58] <estefania> c a.,c a.,mca,mc,zcmalcmkdfahda
[04:58] <estefania> dam,d
[04:58] <estefania> dam,d
[04:58] <K-4U> i'm glad i can do so much with linux.. since i only have it installewd for 1 day:\
[04:58] <estefania> fma,camcakc
[04:58] <imslow3r> hemanth: its ok I don't think I wanna add people i meet on IRC
[04:58] <linux_> someone know how to install canon pixma ip1500  printer ?
[04:58] <estefania> bye evrrybodu
[04:58] <unimatrix9> estefania , you are in already
[04:58] <unimatrix9> hmm?
[04:58] <thavorn> I install feisty fawn 7.04 using alternate Cd but no sound? help
[04:58] <kauer> K4-U: Try this: "sudo iptables -L -n" If you see anything other than "ACCEPT" for the input, output and forward chains, then you have blocks up.
[04:58] <AyoTechnology> howto install my microsoft bluetooth keyboard??
[04:59] <Hemanth> imslow3r : :(
[04:59] <unimatrix9> thavorn , what card , and check lspci , and demsg
[04:59] <K-4U> kauer: okay, hold on a sec. i'll try
[04:59] <imslow3r> hemanth: the instructions are there I hope it works out for you :_0
[04:59] <K-4U> kauer: everything says accept!
[05:00] <thavorn> unimatrix9: It is aapple  ppc dual processor Mac
[05:00] <Hemanth> imslow3r : i m reading
[05:00] <unimatrix9> oh , beauty ...
[05:00] <K-4U> kauer: but there is no further data beneath it. is that right?
[05:00] <bullgard4> What is a 'kernel parameter'?
[05:00] <unimatrix9> thavorn , you need the ppc version i think?
[05:01] <unimatrix9> thavorn , or is it the new intel mac?
[05:01] <kauer> K4-U: No. Then I would say there are no blocks on the Linux box that would prevent pings getting through. Hm. Thinking...
[05:01] <XiXaQ> how can I shut down the xorg?
[05:01] <thavorn> unimatrix9: PPC
[05:02] <yulin> "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop to shutdown xorg"
[05:02] <thavorn> unimatrix9: Live CD no problem, alternate CD problem
[05:02] <newbe5> just been looking at mine, which isn't far off a standard ubuntu install, and all the IMCP prots are open, so yours should be the same :/
[05:02] <unimatrix9> thavorn , you know how to do an lspci , on the terminal?
[05:03] <unimatrix9> and check dmesg too
[05:03] <thavorn> unimatrix9: just type lscpi ?
[05:03] <eichi> eroor api mismatch: the nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-9755 but the x module has the version 1.0-9631
[05:03] <unimatrix9> yes
[05:03] <eichi> what to do?
[05:03] <kost_> sound
[05:03] <kauer> nK4-U: Please tell me the IP addresses of these two boxes, and the network masks. ifconfig on the Linux box,  "ipconfig /all" in a  DOS command window (Start->Run->cmd) on the windows box.
[05:03] <daedra> How would I get a list of available access points in a wifi scan?
[05:03] <unimatrix9> oh and use paste bin
[05:03] <benjamin1254> hey can anyone help me with dyndns update for ubuntu 6.06?
[05:03] <thavorn> unimatrix9: no sound card display
[05:04] <unimatrix9> thavorn , and dmesg ?
[05:04] <benjamin1254> so that way it updates every time my pc address changes
[05:04] <codecaine> how can I compress a video with a codec in linux?
[05:04] <kiryo> can someone tell me how to undo this:  export LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib32/modules/dri/:/usr/lib32/:/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/:
[05:04] <kiryo> /usr/lib/
[05:04] <daedra> benjamin1254: theres another way to do it without installing the dhcpcd daemon
[05:04] <K-4U> kauer: Linux: 192.168.2.3, windows(self given)->192.168.2.4
[05:05] <magnetron> codecaine: you could use a software called avidemux. install it with synaptic
[05:05] <daedra> benjamin1254: you can set linux to have a static IP, and just enable dyndns on your router, giving it your account details
[05:05] <K-4U> kauer: the ip adres for windows has been distributed by the router. but then set
[05:05] <newbe5> linux is on a static IP?
[05:05] <kauer> K4-U: Looks good. Assume the network mask is /24 (255.255.255.0)?
[05:05] <K-4U> yes
[05:05] <benjamin1254> i cant because of the router already using a dns host name from my isp
[05:05] <K-4U> kauer: Oh my god.. i didn't looked right!! :O
[05:05] <daedra> benjamin1254: ok, dyndns.org provides you with two programs to install
[05:05] <newbe5> K-4U: if that yes was to me, change it to pick one up through DHCP
[05:06] <K-4U> kauer: i had looked inside the router for the IP adres of ubuntu.. there it said it was 192.168.2.12
[05:06] <codecaine> ty
[05:06] <ThatLazyGuy> i turned on the kiosk mode in compiz fusion and pressed the key to turn my thunar file manager into full screen mode
[05:06] <K-4U> newbe: no, it wasn't to you. sorry
[05:06] <ThatLazyGuy> and now it wotn change bcak into normal window mode
[05:06] <kauer> K4-U: Try pinging the correct address from the windows box :-)
[05:06] <newbe5> hehe, np :P
[05:06] <ThatLazyGuy> i tried disabling the kisok mode and rebooting
[05:06] <K-4U> kauer: yes, that works **smacks forhead**
[05:06] <jin> how do i play yahoo games?
[05:06] <benjamin1254> ok so what do i do?
[05:06] <K-4U> kauer: thanx for the trouble anyway!
[05:07] <gordonjcp> !flash | jin
[05:07] <ubotu> jin: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:07] <newbe5> K-4U: I love that none of us had the cheek to say: "You sure your pinging the right IP?" :P
[05:07] <kauer> K4-U, newbe5: 1 down, 1,234,528 to go...
[05:07] <K-4U> newbe5: u to thnx anyway;)
[05:07] <newbe5> np :P
[05:07] <daedra> benjamin1254:
[05:07] <newbe5> kauer: :P
[05:07] <K-4U> lol newbe:P no-one would think the problem was THAT easy!@
[05:07] <daedra> sorry one second benjamin1254
[05:07] <raf256> if I am logged via ssh into some other box, how to grab a ./file and save it to the computer from which I am connected?
[05:07] <jin> it has nothing to do with java?
[05:07] <thavorn> unimatrix9: cannot find any
[05:08] <K-4U> allright, thnx a lot! i'm going to try teamspeak now! C u later!!
[05:08] <newbe5> K-4U: One of the biggest problems with Linux, is that sometimes stuff can be so strange and difficult to pinpoint, that it's easy to forget the most basic stuff because your always looking for something wierd that's gone wrong :P
[05:08] <kauer> newbe5: It helps people more if you take them to the point where they ask the right question themselves. It was pretty obvious that he wasn't pinging the right address once we saw that a) the ubuntu box could ping the windows box and b) there was no block on the Ubuntu box.
[05:08] <unimatrix9> thavorn i have to go, but try lsmod | grep snd ,and see if the module is loaded
[05:08] <daedra> benjamin1254: hi back again
[05:08] <daedra> benjamin1254: yes, you must go to https://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/
[05:09] <K-4U> newbe5: yes, youre right... it is my second day with ubuntu so....
[05:09] <unimatrix9> then ask agian here ... to get the module for your card loaded
[05:09] <kiryo> plz could someone tell me how to undo thins; export LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib32/modules/dri/:/usr/lib32/:/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/:
[05:09] <kiryo> /usr/lib/
[05:09] <newbe5> kauer: I didn't see that he'd checked the block :P
[05:09] <daedra> and download either ddclient or inadyn
[05:09] <tatters> !compiz
[05:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:09] <unimatrix9> thavorn ; good luck ....
[05:09] <K-4U> allright, now i'm out! thnx for the help kauer and newbe!
[05:09] <newbe5> lol, I didn't do much, but later! :P
[05:09] <K-4U> l8ter!
[05:10] <unimatrix9> bye all
[05:10] <unimatrix9> diner!
[05:10] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:10] <bittin> k
[05:10] <bittin> cya
[05:10] <ConstyXIV> what sort of compatibility does Ubuntu have with Windows Mobile phones?
[05:10] <codecaine> anybody know what apt-get get so you can encode videos with divx option enabled?
[05:10] <bittin> ConstyXIV: Windows Phones dunno, xD
[05:11] <bittin> as all other phones
[05:11] <bullgard4> What is a 'kernel parameter'?
[05:11] <kauer> raf256: If you can log in with ssh, you can grab a file with scp. If you can log back into the local host from the remote host, you can copy it by issuing the scp command on the remote host, otherwise just open another windows locally and snarf the file over a second connection: "scp me@remote:./file ."
[05:12] <magnetron> ConstyXIV: what sort of compability with computers does windows phones provide?
[05:12] <raf256> kauer: hmm ok
[05:12] <neverblue> if I come back to my computer, after the screen saver has been running (I confirmed gdm is running in a shell), what can I do to get my desktop back?
[05:12] <ConstyXIV> magnetron: general PDA stuff
[05:12] <cjk> hi, im playing with gettext and wondering how i can add DE as supported language. for now i get locale-gen de
[05:12] <cjk> Error: 'de' is not a supported language or locale
[05:12] <unagi> whats the command to get a readout of my cpu info
[05:12] <kauer> raf256: If you can log back into the local host from the remote host, the command to issue on the remote host would be "scp file me@local:." or similar.
[05:13] <evan_> !compiz-fusion
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <unagi> !cpu
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <unagi> blah
[05:13] <evan_> the bot isnt smart here...
[05:13] <kauer> raf256: Or use fuse and mount an sshfs off the remote onto a local mountpoint, but that may be a bit over the top :-)
[05:13] <unagi> well does anyone know a command that can tell me my cpu info?
[05:14] <raf256> yeah sshfs seems nice
[05:14] <evan_> something with cat
[05:14] <evan_> unagi someting with cat
[05:14] <magnetron> ConstyXIV: if your phone can act as a USB mass storage device, you can transfer files to/from it. if it supports syncml, you can sync it with your mail/contact application
[05:14] <unagi> cat cpu didnt work =)
[05:14] <CheshireViking> unagi, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:14] <magnetron> una
[05:14] <unagi> ty
[05:15] <magnetron> unagi: cat /proc/cpuinfo if i recall
[05:15] <unagi> what about ram
[05:15] <unagi> raminfo?
[05:15] <kauer> raf256: Was the scp answer sufficient, do you need more?
[05:15] <unagi> nope
[05:15] <kauer> raf256: It it's a text file, there's always copy and paste :-)
[05:16] <evan_> who knows a howto to make compiz-fusion startup faster then 2 minutes?
[05:17] <unagi> evan_ does ur splash screen hang?
[05:17] <kauer> raf256: Was the scp answer sufficient, do you need more?
[05:17] <radioman> hey
[05:17] <bittin> hi radioman
[05:17] <benjamin1254> how do i restart ddclient?
[05:18] <raf256> kauer: its ok, I will anyway probably set up a file server
[05:18] <unagi> evan_: ?
[05:18] <evan_> unagi when i boot it all freeses then i doe cntrl-alt-backspace and then it loads but takes 2 minutes
[05:18] <kauer> Hey GAIM users, is there any way to filter a conversation down to just a few participants?
[05:18] <raf256> kauer: I guess create user "fileserver" set its home chmod properly, login to scponly and on client use sshfs right?
[05:18] <unagi> interesting........did you have desktop effects enabled before you installed compiz-fusion?
[05:18] <daedra> benjamin1254: have you compiled it?
[05:18] <grant> Hello I'm new to the Ubuntu enviornment if anybody is knowledgeable on how to install programs I need some help. Please.
[05:18] <kauer> raf256: If you wanted to move a LOT of files, why didn't you say so? Setting up a file server is a bit different to just transferring one file.
[05:19] <benjamin1254> as far as i know i installed it from what the forum said to do and it poped up saying dyndns service not in use
[05:19] <daedra> grant: click on the ubuntu logo, Add/Remove Programs
[05:19] <neverblue> if I come back to my computer, after the screen saver has been running (I confirmed gdm is running in a shell), what can I do to get my desktop back? (yes, I have already entered my password)
[05:19] <kauer> raf256: What is scponly?
[05:19] <benjamin1254>  dynamic DNS service update utility not in use
[05:19] <benjamin1254>    ...done.
[05:19] <daedra> benjamin1254: you may need to configure it
[05:20] <benjamin1254> could u explain y? daedra?
[05:20] <grant> daedra: I am will that allow me to install yahoo, the instructions say type  rpm -i <filename>  but I must admit I am lost.
[05:20] <kauer> raf256: sshfs doesn't need any "server" beyond the sshd that is running on the remote box. You don't need any special users either. The sshfs has the same permissions as the ssh user has on th eremote machine.
[05:20] <benjamin1254> im doing everything by the guide and since i have a dynamic ip it changes alot
[05:20] <evan_> unagi i think i had indeed
[05:21] <benjamin1254> so i am trying to force it to update every so often
[05:21] <daedra> benjamin1254: take a look through the READMEs and try typing "man <programname>"
[05:21] <unagi> they might be conflicting.......maybe try apt-get remove desktop-effects
[05:21] <daedra> grant: yahoo? what do you mean by installing yahoo?
[05:23] <grant> yahoo instant messenger I went to yahoo's website and it says that it will work with redhat I was hoping I would get lucky and it would work for Ubuntu as well. I am in Iraq and my wife and I are fond of using our webcams something as far as I can tell Gaim won't let you do.
[05:23] <howlingmadhowie> grant: wre es nicht leichter, ekiga zu benutzen?
[05:23] <grant> daedra: admittedly though I am still updating  the OS.
[05:24] <TuxRox>  I just burned a xubuntu 7.04 CD. I booted it up and it is asking for a user name and password. Why might that be, and what are the default user and password for the CD?
[05:24] <spectre__> hi
[05:24] <howlingmadhowie> grant: sorry. i'm chatting in german on another window: wouldn't it be easier to use ekiga?
[05:24] <spectre__> ciao linuxkid
[05:24] <grant> daedra: sorry I don' t speak german and my room mate is not here to translate.
[05:24] <grant> oh lol
[05:24] <grant> will that work with my wife's yahoo?
[05:24] <grant> I did get it to work quite well
[05:25] <raf256> kauer: yea but I wanted a for-all general account to share files on
[05:25] <benjamin1254> ok im re configuring ddclient what does it mean byinterface used by dyndns?
[05:25] <howlingmadhowie> grant: as long as yahoo supports one of the protocols ekiga supports, you shouldn't have any problems
[05:25] <jpb_jpb_jpb> hello world
[05:26] <linux_> why this dont work : /etc/init.d/cups restart ?
[05:26] <evan_> unagi i looked in synaptic and i saw i got the package "compiz" installed is that normal or do you have to have it uninstalled in compiz-fusion?
[05:26] <grant> I will try it thank you. I must admit I'm embarrassed I'm the guy everyone comes to here for computer questions, and here I am stumped. Thank you very much for the help. I will try it. Any ideas how to hail yahoo with it?
[05:26] <jpb_jpb_jpb> i just tried installing 64 bit Ubuntu on my Mac Pro (using VM Ware) and when I tried to install the VMWare Tools, the screen (maybe rebooted?) and is now black.  What do I do w a black screen?  Ctrl-alt-del?
[05:26] <kauer> raf256: Then sshfs is not that useful. You could get most of the way there, though. Samba (specially if Windows users will be involved) is probably a better way to go.
[05:27] <Penguinsaremyfri> I know the vm ware is free, but is there a free program to make the vm file?
[05:27] <linux_> why this dont work : /etc/init.d/cups restart ?
[05:27] <howlingmadhowie> grant: i've never done internet telephony. i think sip is a pretty standard format
[05:27] <jpb_jpb_jpb> WMware isn't free
[05:27] <raf256> kauer: but not rly secure is it
[05:27] <Penguinsaremyfri> the player I mean
[05:27] <kauer> raf256: if you want to use sshfs, the remote directory needs to be read/writable for all accounts on the remote machine that will be accessed from your machine. But it's workable.
[05:27] <grant> thank you for the help I will try to figure it out.
[05:28] <kauer> raf256: Samba is as secure as anything else (but the transfers are not encrypted, I don't think, just the authentication phase).
[05:28] <raf256> kauer: using sshfs, how to have user@host mounted into /mnt/sss ? I prefer if on mount sshfs would use my ssh key
[05:28] <Penguinsaremyfri> Is there a way that I can in my linux partition and use a virtual machine to load up my xp partition?
[05:29] <Bigcheese> Penguinsaremyfri: I'm rather sure vmware can do it
[05:29] <Bigcheese> but it's hard
[05:29] <Bigcheese> to use an already existing partition.
[05:29] <kauer> raf256: Do you mean that you don't want to have to enter a password?
[05:30] <Penguinsaremyfri> But I cannot make a virtual machine without buying the software?
[05:30] <raf256> kauer: I want to just enter passphrase to my ssh key (it will be on server in authroized keys)
[05:30] <taime> does ubuntu have some special version of gtk2?
[05:30] <Sikarios> do i have to partition my hard drive before installing ubuntu?
[05:30] <geekaway> well
[05:31] <kauer> raf256: You can mount your sshfs anywhere that you have permissions - /mnt/sss is outside your home, so you'll have to change it's permissions, but other than that no problem.
[05:31] <spectre__> only if you don't have free unpartitioned space Sikarios
[05:31] <magnetron> Sikarios: the ubuntu installer will ask you and do it for you
[05:31] <geekaway> you can use wubi from windows, alternately, its a little slow tho
[05:31] <raf256> kauer: do u knpw exaacly how to set it up? like paste exampkle line from fstab to do so
[05:31] <jpb_jpb_jpb> can anyone tell me what to do when the screen goes black?  i'm so much of an Ubuntu noob that I don't know the equivalent of ctrl-al-del
[05:31] <kauer> raf256: To use just your passphrase, run ssh-add on login - until you log out, ssh-agent will supply your password automagically.
[05:31] <Sikarios> ok
[05:31] <Sikarios> question two is i'm having problems installing
[05:31] <Sikarios> i just downloaded ubuntu-7.0 for desktop last night, and when it opens up to install
[05:32] <spectre__> Sikarios,I was using windows vista and ubuntu on the same pc with dual boot( Now I have removed vista)
[05:32] <Bigcheese> Penguinsaremyfri: you an use vmware server, which is freely available for linux and windows
[05:32] <Sikarios> it says i need a cd, and it's trying to open a program called Sonic RecordNow! which, is what i already have for burning cd's
[05:32] <Sikarios> and i've heard nothing good about vista from anybody lol
[05:32] <Penguinsaremyfri> Does it make the vm from an xp cd?
[05:33] <geekaway> you can do that, yeah
[05:33] <Bigcheese> Penguinsaremyfri: yes, but you can also do it from a preexisting partition, it's just complicated.
[05:33] <Penguinsaremyfri> is there a way to make a vm out of a partition?
[05:33] <spectre__> For my personal view it's too heavy 6,5 gb with basic apps installed
[05:33] <geekaway> erm
[05:33] <Penguinsaremyfri> ahh
[05:33] <taime> when i use a window manager like fluxbox, and try to use a gtk theme switcher, its tells me that gtk2.0 is not installed... but i looked in the repos, its not there, unless it is some strange build for ubuntu. is there a way around this?
[05:33] <spectre__> (vista)
[05:34] <Penguinsaremyfri> I want to use photoshop in linux, but I no longer have the key, I need to use the one installed
[05:34] <kitche> taime: libgtk2.0 or something like that its called
[05:34] <spectre__> and it's slow
[05:34] <jaelae> Hi iGod
[05:34] <taime> thanks
[05:34] <spectre__> Ubuntu is easy and fast
[05:34] <geekaway> i think you can mount a partition 'raw' donno if it will boot tho. alternately you can convert a physical install to a VM
[05:34] <spectre__> bye bye
[05:34] <iGod> hello jaelae
[05:34] <_Andrew> Can anyone help me out I am trying to play a wmv9 file in vlc, totem, gxine but the sound doesn't work on this particular file. The video is fine
[05:34] <linux_> why this dont work : /etc/init.d/cups restart ?
[05:34] <daedra> wicrawl output
[05:35] <daedra> apcore: setMonitorMode() doesn't know how to enable monitoring on interface ra1
[05:35] <daedra> how do I enable monitor ra1
[05:35] <kauer> raf256: I really don't think using sshfs for shared space on a permanent basis is a good idea. I haven't done it myself, so don't know how to do it (or if it's even possible) but I definitely don't recommend it. sshfs is a very lightweight filesystem...
[05:35] <Penguinsaremyfri> How difficult is using cs2 in wine?
[05:35] <Sikarios> any clues as to why when i try to run install, it's asking for a cd for a program called Sonic RecordNow!  ?
[05:35] <Penguinsaremyfri> or crossover
[05:35] <pvandewyngaerde> linux_:  sudo it
[05:35] <taime> synaptic
[05:35] <geekaway> donno, i know cs3 mostly works
[05:35] <taime> shoot, sorry. wrong window
[05:35] <bannerman> Can I install Ubuntu to boot to my software raid partition?
[05:36] <linux_> Penguinsaremyfri , no command
[05:36] <quaal> bannerman, does the software raid have a driver for linux ?
[05:36] <Penguinsaremyfri> command?
[05:36] <quaal> or is it software raid as in mdadm
[05:36] <westsider> hello :D
[05:36] <bannerman> quaal: mdadm
[05:36] <daedra> how do I enable monitor ra1?
[05:36] <quaal> bannerman, then yes
[05:36] <quaal> bannerman, there is a writeup for making it your boot partition
[05:37] <quaal> tried google?
[05:37] <bannerman> quaal: indeed I have
[05:37] <quaal> hmm
[05:37] <quaal> i remember seeing it.. i was just making mdadm  partition (nonbootable)
[05:37] <linux_> Penguinsaremyfri , its says that there isnt command like this
[05:37] <quaal> but it goes into lengthy detail on making it bootable
[05:37] <quaal> let me see if i can find
[05:37] <daedra> I'm giving up on linux
[05:37] <RoundyT1> Where can I purchase a nice laptop ubuntu will run on...i need to find a fast reliable solution for college.....
[05:38] <doojin> jmm
[05:38] <aaron> RoundyT1, tried dell?
[05:38] <RoundyT1> I'm afraid dell will stand up to be the alway crappy machine they produce
[05:38] <aaron> they come preloaded now.
[05:38] <Penguinsaremyfri> I want to get rid of xp, but still want to use cs2 which is installed on my xp partition
[05:38] <quaal> Penguinsaremyfri, wine/cedega ?
[05:38] <vincenz> ok
[05:38] <bannerman> Another question, I see a lot of people building like 3 distinct raid5 devices on the same disks, with one partition in each. Is that the preferred method, instead of putting multiple partitions in a single raid?
[05:39] <vincenz> so I set /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and told it to use aoss
[05:39] <vincenz> since then
[05:39] <aaron> http://luiscosio.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps
[05:39] <quaal> bannerman, http://trailfire.com/swoskow/marks/109780
[05:39] <RoundyT1> aaron, dell always makes a crappy machine.
[05:39] <Penguinsaremyfri> But can I then move the adobe folders to ubunutu and format xp?
[05:39] <quaal> you sure you googled?
[05:39] <bannerman> thank you Quaal
[05:39] <aaron> RoundyT1, then go spend 3k on an IBM i guess.
[05:39] <quaal> !g mdadm ubuntu boot
[05:39] <aaron> http://luiscosio.com/how-to-adobe-photoshop-cs2-on-ubuntu-10-steps
[05:39] <bannerman> well, there's Googling and then there's Googling. I probably did the latter.
[05:39] <quaal> heh
[05:40] <quaal> g! mdadm ubuntu boot
[05:40] <bannerman> its much harder to google stuff when you're new to the terminology
[05:40] <RoundyT1> aaron, do they come pre-installed with ubuntu? or..no. i heard they are better though.
[05:40] <quaal> guess that doesnt work
[05:40] <Penguinsaremyfri> Thanks for everything guys
[05:40] <quaal> oh i thought he meant cs2 as in counterstrike 2
[05:40] <aaron> RoundyT1, yes. they come preloaded.
[05:40] <aaron> www.dell.com
[05:40] <bullgard4> What is a 'kernel parameter'?
[05:40] <taime> libgtk2 is installed, but my theme switchers still tells me its not...what gives?
[05:41] <Bigcheese> quaal: I always mess up with css, cs2, but not cs3 for some reason...
[05:41] <soundray> !bootoptions > bullgard4
[05:41] <aaron> http://www.dell.com/open actually.
[05:41] <quaal> heh
[05:41] <RoundyT1> aaron, wait, (i hope im not coming off as a tard) haha, trying not to, i mean the Lenovo/IBM's they come with Ubuntu pre-installed?
[05:41] <kitche> RoundyT1: lenovo is Suse
[05:41] <aaron> RoundyT1, no.
[05:42] <RoundyT1> kitche, dang, that sucks.
[05:42] <soundray> RoundyT1: I wouldn't worry about it. If it runs on Suse, it won't be hard to get Ubuntu to run on it.
[05:42] <geekaway> *but* you could easily install most linux or BSD distros on IBMs...
[05:43] <vincenz> so I set /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and told it to use aoss.  Since then my soundcard in skype and xmms blocks when I have firefox open.
[05:43] <RoundyT1> well, funny cause i run ubuntu on my work machine and its amazingly great with my T60 ThinkPad --- they have a wonderful wiki dedicated to thinkpads and such, it was a breeze getting ubuntu installed.
[05:44] <wuxiaoquan> #join ubuntu-cn
[05:44] <linux_> how i can reset Common Unix Printing System ?
[05:44] <aaron> /etc/init.d/cups restart
[05:44] <erUSUL> linux_: what do you mean b "reset"
[05:44] <cblack0> could someone on feisty quickly tell me what version of firefox they have after recent updates?
[05:44] <bicycledaave> hi all, my privoxy keeps warning me a 502 error, "no such domain" even for google.com, after a upgrade for some packages.  What could the problem be?
[05:44] <cblack0> I did updates and I still have firefox 2.0.0.5
[05:44] <erUSUL> cblack0: 2.0.0.6
[05:44] <RoundyT1> has anyone purchased the dell with ubuntu preinstalled?? i would love to know how well it's been working.
[05:44] <cblack0> hrm
[05:44] <bullgard4> soundray: The website which you recommended me to read does not answer the question which I put here. It does not even mention the term 'boot parameter'.
[05:45] <linux_> erUSUL , stop and then start
[05:45] <soundray> bullgard4: boot option and boot parameter is the same thing
[05:45] <newbe5> 2.0.0.6 here too
[05:45] <erUSUL> linux_: then do what aaron said 'sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart'
[05:45] <bullgard4> soundray: Ah! I will think about that.
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[05:46] <quaal> bicycledaave, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAOHhV1EFe4
[05:47] <lt_> hi
[05:48] <lt_> my printer doesnt work
[05:48] <lt_> the driver is installed
[05:48] <cblack0> re: firefox upgrade. The only thing I can think of is my use of some packages from gutsy may be screwing stuff up
[05:48] <cblack0> but everything else seems ok
[05:48] <cblack0> I have an apt preferences file that deprioritizes gutsy updates
[05:49] <lt_> the printjob starts but the printer dont print
[05:49] <bicycledaave> quaal:?
[05:49] <lt_> any idea
[05:49] <VINCHENZO28> i got fiesty 7.04 64bit i need help installing flash
[05:49] <lt_> ?
[05:50] <linux_> someone have  canon pixma ip 1500 and now how to install her ?
[05:50] <quaal> bicycledaave, yes?
[05:50] <jaelae> good printer choice :P
[05:50] <jaelae> cant help ya though
[05:50] <VINCHENZO28> i got fiesty 7.04 64bit was wondering if anyone could help me getting flash to work in firefox
[05:51] <cblack0> I have gutsy main in my sources.list and an apt preferences setting package * to pin release a=gutsy at 600 and feisty at 700
[05:51] <linux_> there is free printurbo version ?
[05:52] <lt_> sind hier eigentlich auch deutsche??
[05:52] <cblack0> VINCHENZO28: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#amd64andppc
[05:52] <geekaway> !de| lt_
[05:52] <ubotu> lt_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:52] <cblack0> damn, he left already :)
[05:52] <bullgard4> soundray: Thank you very much for hinting me at that website. Together with your explanation my questions are thus anwered.
[05:53] <_nemesis_> hi, i can't use gnome anymore, even "secured" mode doesn't work
[05:54] <_nemesis_> is an apt-get install fluxbox all that i need to login into that?
[05:55] <hwilde> hey I want to download some packages and put them on a usb drive for a computer that doesn't have internet.   how can I download them, and how can I install with apt on the other machiine?
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde: downloads go into var/cache/a[t/archives... copy them to the other machine put them in that folder and apt looks there first
[05:56] <hwilde> sweet
[05:56] <Tonik] > How do I figure out the version of Ubuntu a PC is running, from a terminal?
[05:56] <hwilde> Tonik] , lsb_release -a
[05:56] <howlingmadhowie> hwilde: i think apt-get -d will just download the packages and you can install them on another computer using pdkg (or just click on the debs)
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde: I use synaptic, let it handle the dependencies.. copy everything to a cd or usb and go from there
[05:57] <Tonik] > hwilde: thanks
[05:57] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow, openssh-server is not there altho I downloaded it
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> How did you d/l it?
[05:57] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow, apt-get install openssh-server
[05:57] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow, I guess I can do -d
[05:58] <Haz> how would i run a complete terminal session?
[05:58] <nena> excuse me, does someone know what's the game's default client in ubuntu?
[05:59] <bullgard4> soundray: I have got an error message: "The resume partition is not set up. Probably you need to add a 'resume=...' option to your kernel command line and reboot." Where can I find the 'kernel command line'?
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde: If you use synaptic there is an option to download only and not install.. just a little fyi
[05:59] <linux_> there is free printurbo version ?
[05:59] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow, it says it is already installed, but it is not in apt/archives
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> I am looking now.. just take a sec.
[06:00] <igor> hi, can anyone help me tp setup routing on ubuntu?
[06:01] <mindframe> do ubuntu irc servers support ssl/
[06:01] <mindframe> ?
[06:01] <Ralesk> Hello... a few days ago Kicker stopped to run automatically on login, and today I am told by every app that needs to start that they can't save config -- turns out my root fs (an ext3) is read-only.
[06:01] <bullgard4> igor: First present to the audience here your routing table in a pastbin.
[06:02] <bullgard4> pastebin.
[06:02] <CroX> What is, if any, the difference between Compiz and Compiz fusion?
[06:02] <igor> bullgard4
[06:02] <Bogaurd> I have an ubuntu fesity server install. I want to run something on it with x forwarding - but when I try to run it, I get an error saying 'Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:' - do I need to install something special to get x forwarding working?
[06:02] <herbaliser> hi can anybody tell me how i can change the color of the screen between splash and login screen.  I have change my splash screen and gdm login but in between i still get the default color page
[06:02] <igor> can we chat in private?
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde: I think I see it in my var/cache/apt/archives  open ssh server
[06:03] <animal> i have a problem i downloaded a file and it says that is downloaded in /home/animal/.dc++/picture.jpg
[06:03] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow, apt-get install openssh-server  says it is already installed, but it is not there :/
[06:03] <Ralesk> fsck tells it's clean, but rebooting doesn't fix the readonliness, and I definitely have rw,errors=remount-ro set
[06:03] <gangsterlicious> cyber sex?
[06:03] <hwilde> !ops
[06:03] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:03] <animal> how can i find that gile ???
[06:03] <Myrtti> hum
[06:03] <gnomefreak> hwilde: ?
[06:03] <hwilde> gnomefreak, gangsterlicious
[06:03] <animal> how can i find that file ??
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde: I just installed it and it is in mine...  are you sure you are looking in the right folder
[06:03] <unodipalermo> salve
[06:03] <hwilde> gnomefreak, too slow, PriceChild got him
[06:03] <unodipalermo> c' un italiano?
[06:03] <PriceChild> !it | unodipalermo
[06:03] <ubotu> unodipalermo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[06:04] <gnomefreak> hwilde: thats fine :0
[06:04] <animal> i have a problem i downloaded a file and it says that is downloaded in /home/animal/.dc++/picture.jpg, where can i find this file... ???
[06:04] <Ralesk> animal: it's at /home/animal/.dc++/picture.jpg -- I'm not sure what there's to be "found" on it
[06:05] <animal> its the dc++ download default directory
[06:05] <Ralesk> I know
[06:05] <bannerman> Is it better to put all of my partitions in one md device or better to create one md device for /, boot, swap, etc?
[06:05] <animal> and i downloaded some mp3 in it
[06:05] <animal> and i cant find them
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Ralesk: .dc++  would imply hidden
[06:05] <Ralesk> I'm sure you can type this address in your file manager though
[06:05] <animal> and how can i see that directory ?
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Ralesk: Use nautilus and enable show hidden folders
[06:06] <animal> where to type it in file manager.. i see no adress bar
[06:06] <Ralesk> ^ animal
[06:06] <animal> from where can i get nautilus ?
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Type nautilus in a terminal
[06:07] <animal> thanks
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:07] <ThatLazyGuy> Hello, i turned on the kiosk mode in compiz fusion which enable me to turn any window into fullscreen with a press with a key
[06:07] <inqui> hey,
[06:07] <inqui> i tired to create some FSTAB entries myself ... looking like this :
[06:07] <inqui> # /dev/sdb2
[06:07] <inqui> UUID= 461F-7CD5             vfat         defaults        0       0
[06:07] <inqui> /dev/sdb2        /media/mybook_2
[06:07] <inqui> is this okay?
[06:07] <ThatLazyGuy> i turned the thunar file manager into fullscreen mode, and now its stuck in fullscreen
[06:07] <hsatera> what's the right command to shutdown the computer
[06:08] <hsatera> sudo shutdown 0
[06:08] <ThatLazyGuy> i can not change it back to normal window mdoe
[06:08] <hsatera> isn't working
[06:08] <Ralesk> hsatera: shutdown -h now
[06:08] <Ralesk> sudo it, of course
[06:09] <inqui> ;(
[06:10] <nimbo> hey, how can i reimport a mysql backup which has been created with 'mysqldump --all-databases' ?
[06:10] <jrattner1> Question: If proftpd is in my inetd.conf why is it starting with my system on everyboot
[06:10] <cc1973> parallels on mac - ubuntu networking issue
[06:11] <cc1973> not able to connect...network idle
[06:11] <cc1973> !parallels
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <Juhaz> nimbo, mysql < dumpfile
[06:11] <kauer> jrattner1: Look in /etc/init.d - is there a startup script for proftpd there? If so, remove any links to it from the rc directories. There may be a GUI way to do this, I'm not sure.
[06:11] <raf256> Omg, this is awesome, I've never seen a horsecock standing so erect before. http://adrinael.net/horsecock.jpg
[06:11] <nimbo> Juhaz thanks, i'll try that
[06:11] <ribando> hi everyone
[06:12] <kitche> !ops
[06:12] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:12] <gnomefreak> ?
[06:12] <jrattner1> kauer, there is a proftd one iin /etc/init.d should i just delete it?
[06:13] <jrattner1> kauer, or should i just remove it from /etc/inetd
[06:14] <kauer> jrattner1: You can probably switch it off and on using System->Services, but I haven'y used that utility before (I'm old-school) :-)
[06:14] <ribando> I really need some help on getting ubuntu feisty to play divx
[06:14] <kauer> jrattner1: I wouldn't remove the script itself, no. Just the links to it.
[06:14] <jrattner1> ok thanks
[06:14] <jrattner1> kauer, then it will start properly?
[06:14] <nimbo> thx Juhaz works like a charme :] 
[06:15] <fruitbatJim> is there a command in the terminal to find all prrocesses along with the user who's running the process?
[06:16] <kauer> jrattner1: The links in /etc/init.d handle starting and stopping stuff as you movethrough the runlevells (i.e., on boot and shutdown, generally). Changing the service status there will have no effect on any other methods you use to start and stop the service, such as inetd.
[06:16] <Hobbsee> fruitbatJim: ps -aux
[06:16] <ribando> fruitbatJim try to use the system monitor
[06:16] <fruitbatJim> thanks guys
[06:17] <kauer> jrattner: Try System->Services. If it doesn't work, try something else. I think it will work.
[06:17] <RiCCo69> awsome i'm up and runnin
[06:17] <ConfidentiaL> I have an old PC which I want to use as a server. I tried both feisty and dapper server editions, but both seem to have compatibility problems(ethernet card not detected in either), and none will boot after installation. Do you have any suggestions to what distro I should use or something? Its an old Pentium(not 1 or 2, just Pentium) of a couple of hundreds Mhz and 256mb of RAM.
[06:17] <kauer> jrattner1: Sorry, System->Administration->Services.
[06:18] <RiCCo69> hey got a question, when i check out youtube and look at the ubuntu vids. everyone can zoom out on there cube? is that an addon? and how do I do it
[06:18] <RiCCo69> i'm running feisty
[06:18] <Sithe> Hey
[06:18] <Sithe> Does anyone have steam running on Ubuntu with wine?
[06:18] <howlingmadhowie> ConfidentiaL: you'll need something light for that. i'd probably recommend a specialist server distribution (possibly even a BSD system)
[06:19] <howlingmadhowie> RiCCo69: hold the windows key and use the mouse wheel
[06:19] <howlingmadhowie> ConfidentiaL: if you can manage a gentoo install, that would also be perfect :)
[06:19] <RiCCo69> lap top all i have is a pad for my fingure
[06:19] <Sithe> Does anyone have steam running on Ubuntu with wine?
[06:20] <erUSUL> !repeat | Sithe
[06:20] <ubotu> Sithe: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:20] <ConfidentiaL> howlingmadhowie: Its just, I'm fairly new to linux, and has gotten used to ubuntu. Are the others much different or difficult to get into/learn?
[06:20] <eland> Anyone know how to set per-process CPU limits?
[06:20] <kost_> Well, i have a problem. I successefully installed ubuntu 7.04 desktop edition and now when i am in the really first boot menu i select the first option which is ubuntu kernal 16.0 as far as i can remeber and when i press it i get black screen :\ and the monitor turn off
[06:20] <RiCCo69> i have gl desktop installed does that make a difference
[06:20] <ribando> RiCCo69 u have to enable the zoom function first, then u can zoom
[06:20] <xtknight> how do i keep a package from showing up in the package manager at all?  more than just holding it back, i never want to see it?  i think holding it back from dpkg still causes it to show in update-manager.
[06:20] <magnetron> ConfidentiaL: if your network card is not supported in ubuntu, it is probably a very odd card. try getting some spare cheap card and it will probably work. it doesn't boot? some old computers (compaq especially) does not support installing new operating systems, because it stores the bios on the hd...
[06:21] <howlingmadhowie> RiCCo69: then you'll have to map the zoom in/out function to other keys. this looks like a job for gconf-editor
[06:21] <CITguy> anybody here have experience setting up a TV Tuner?
[06:22] <howlingmadhowie> ConfidentiaL: gentoo does everything using text files. on a server, you probably won't want a gui anyway. did you try the server install cds of feisty/dapper?
[06:22] <Sithe> Does anyone have Steam running with Wine?
[06:22] <magnetron> howlingmadhowie: he did
[06:22] <magnetron> Sithe: yes
[06:22] <RiCCo69> i tried that in gl config I put the button z but it doesn't do much.
[06:22] <RiCCo69> i'll fidle around with it
[06:22] <RiCCo69> but any tips would help
[06:22] <kost_> Help me someone plz
[06:22] <howlingmadhowie> magnetron: oh, sorry :) i should really try reading someday. people tell me it's fun :)
[06:22] <Sithe> Magnetron. I have Steam running but text and images aren't showing up
[06:22] <awake> i like just installed ubuntu for he firs time :D
[06:23] <Pazy> I need some help doing one of the GRUB virtual swap things, can someone help me?
[06:23] <howlingmadhowie> awake: and you're having trouble with the "t" key
[06:23] <anandanbu> How do i enable write support for the mounted NTFS usb drive in sdb1 in ubuntu 7.04
[06:23] <howlingmadhowie> awake: and what do you think of ubuntu? :)
[06:24] <magnetron> Sithe: you need to install the msttcorefonts. also, if wine asks if you want to install the Gecko engine, answer yes
[06:24] <ConfidentiaL> magnetron: I tried several ethernet cards(well, 2). It's also not a compaq... I have also installed and reinstalled several windows versions before, so I don't  think its that stuff with the bios on harddrive thing...
[06:24] <awake> its cool, anyway i can stop all the connects and disconnects showing up?
[06:24] <kauer> anandanbu: Does the USB drive mount automatically and show you an icon?
[06:24] <ravalox> I need some advice; I have a friend with a very old computer(96 megs of RAM)
[06:24] <anandanbu> kauer: no i mounted it using the gnome partition editor
[06:24] <Sithe> magnetron how do I go about installing the msttcorefonts?
[06:24] <magnetron> Sithe: with synaptic
[06:24] <Sithe> Ahh okay thank you
[06:25] <ravalox> Xubuntu won't install on it; but I need a featherweight distribution that will install that little RAM
[06:25] <kauer> anandanbu: What shows up for that device when you run "mount" (no options)?
[06:25] <anandanbu> kauer: i am able to read from the device but not able to write to it
[06:25] <CITguy> ravalox: have you tried Damn Small Linux?
[06:25] <howlingmadhowie> awake: in the chatroom you mean?
[06:25] <ravalox> But it also has to be as userfriendly as a featherweight can be
[06:25] <awake> yeah sorry
[06:25] <kauer> anandanbu: Please answer the question. What shows up for that device when you run "mount" (no options)?
[06:25] <ravalox> CITguy: Yeah, it works but the interface isn't very easy
[06:25] <ravalox> I could use it but they couldn't
[06:26] <CITguy> ravlox: what kind of desktop environment are you looking for?
[06:26] <ravalox> So what's the userfriendliest featherweight?
[06:26] <anandanbu> kauer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32937/
[06:26] <ravalox> Well, something that has an applications menu; gnome simple takes too much memory
[06:26] <digip1mp> puppy linux?
[06:26] <ConfidentiaL> howlingmadhowie: I don't expect GUI on the server, no. I'll check out gentoo then. Thanks:) you too magnetron :)
[06:26] <howlingmadhowie> awake: i have no idea :) type !help and have a look at the options :)
[06:26] <ravalox> but something that has the basic menu interface would be ideal
[06:26] <therethinker> What's the 1 package I need to install to get the ATI drivers working?
[06:26] <magnetron> ConfidentiaL: linux has had broad support for ethernet cards long before the first version of Ubuntu. it's probably something else that fails. if you could find out why the computer does not boot, it would help
[06:27] <awake> i think it may have something to do with the client
[06:27] <howlingmadhowie> ConfidentiaL: i'm wondering why ubuntu is having trouble booting on your hardware. i though ubuntu was compiled for a standard i386 target, but maybe i'm wrong
[06:27] <kauer> anandanbu: That is the output from what command exactly?
[06:27] <Vlet> Anyone know of a text mode browser that supports personal certificates?
[06:27] <magnetron> wotamuckinfuddle: download the iso for the cd version of ubuntu
[06:27] <anandanbu> kauer: thats for sudo mount /media/sdb1
[06:28] <howlingmadhowie> awake: a client may well be able to filter it. the message "bla-bla-bla entered the room" is probably part of the data-stream you get from the server however
[06:29] <kauer> anandanbu: It's important that you try to read carefully what people write. Please run the command "mount" with no arguments. ust like that - mount. What shows up for that device when you run "mount" (no options)?
[06:29] <Sithe> magnetron Do I have to delete the client registry file every time?
[06:29] <CITguy> ravalox: how about Puppy Linux?
[06:29] <ConfidentiaL> magnetron & howlingmadhowie: well, they worked with windows 95 or 98, but they are not PCI though. They are some older sockets, I can't remember what they're called...
[06:29] <ravalox> CITguy: sadly puppy linux won't boot
[06:29] <howlingmadhowie> ConfidentiaL: isa?
[06:29] <ravalox> That was the first one I tried
[06:29] <craig_> Anyone gotten either sql-ledger or ledgersmb running on ubuntu?
[06:29] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know of a simple way to configure file sharing between an xp box (wireless) and a ubuntu laptop (wireless) I find the !samba wiki guides vague and difficult to understand
[06:29] <fruitbatJim> is ther a command to get a list of all users currently logged on?
[06:30] <awake> !help
[06:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:30] <kauer> Paddy: Which direction?
[06:30] <craig_> Paddy_EIRE, you having trouble sharing out from linux or window?
[06:30] <therethinker> Hi, whats the 1 package I can install to enable the ATI drivers
[06:30] <anandanbu> kauer: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32938/
[06:30] <bannerman> Is there a problem with ubuntu setup that keeps it from detecting partitions in an md device?
[06:30] <howlingmadhowie> Paddy_EIRE: samba should just work on ubuntu. right-click the file (or directory) you want to share and select "share"
[06:30] <ConfidentiaL> howlingmadhowie: maybe, I'm not really sure. It's so old:P
[06:30] <Paddy_EIRE> kauer: craig wanna be able to share back and forth
[06:30] <magnetron> Sithe: for help on running steam in Wine, check out http://appdb.winehq.org/  they have an entry on Steam with some instructions
[06:30] <Sithe> magnetron thank you
[06:30] <bannerman> Does anyone here use ubuntu, and raid? :P
[06:30] <mannytu> wHATS A BOT?
[06:30] <howlingmadhowie> Paddy_EIRE: how are you connecting the computers? ad-hoc wireless networks are often not supported in the cards themselves
[06:31] <howlingmadhowie> mannytu: ask ubotu :)
[06:31] <CITguy> ravalox: Absolute Linux?
[06:31] <mannytu> :-)
[06:31] <CITguy> http://www.pcbypaul.com/absolute/
[06:32] <ravalox> CITguy: I'll give that looksee, thanks
[06:32] <therethinker> Is there a package that will install the ATI drivers? A remote friend is having issues
[06:32] <Paddy_EIRE> howlingmadhowie: Im not sure but when vista was on both sharing files was simple...I just put items in the public folders of each machine
[06:32] <kitche> therethinker: fglrx
[06:32] <kitche> therethinker: if he's on feisty he can open up restricted driver manager and install that way
[06:32] <howlingmadhowie> ConfidentiaL: if you want way too much information: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO
[06:32] <therethinker> kitche: Yeah, but X won't load
[06:32] <mannytu> Absolute looks nice
[06:33] <howlingmadhowie> Paddy_EIRE: what happens if you just select to share a folder or file on ubuntu?
[06:33] <therethinker> kitche: Otherwise, I'd VNC in
[06:33] <therethinker> !fglrx | therethinker
[06:33] <kauer> anandanbu: Sorry, anandanbu - did you say you can read the data on this device? It doesn't appear to be mounted, and as you saw, mount failed for that device. How were you able to read the device?
[06:33] <Paddy_EIRE> howlingmadhowie: doing that now its installing support for both nfs and samba
[06:33] <howlingmadhowie> Paddy_EIRE: sounds promising :)
[06:33] <kitche> therethinker: well most likely he needs to configure X first before install fglrx just to make sure that it works for him :)
[06:34] <inqui> okay okay ....
[06:34] <inqui> why dis? :
[06:34] <inqui> chi@industrial:~$ sudo ln -s /media/mybook_6/ /media/usbdisk-5/
[06:34] <inqui> ln: Erzeugen der symbolischen Verknpfung /media/usbdisk-5/mybook_6 zu /media/mybook_6/: Operation not permitted
[06:34] <CheeseGardener> I just did a fresh install, how do I get AptOnCD????
[06:34] <anandanbu> kauer: i was able to mount on sdb1 using the gnome partition editor and also i have installed ntfs-3g would it create a problem
[06:34] <ConfidentiaL> howlingmadhowie: thanks, found some familiar bois settings there:P
[06:34] <therethinker> therethinker: We tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and it was already on VESA
[06:34] <Slart> !nfs
[06:34] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:34] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know how to get apt-get?
[06:35] <CheeseGardener> I mean, AptonCD
[06:35] <Vinchenzo28> whats the easiest why to install flash for firefox on ubuntu 64 bit 7.04
[06:35] <magnetron> CheeseGardener: with "add/remove applications", you can easily install aptoncd
[06:35] <kauer> anandanbu: Sorry, anandanbu - I won't waste your time any more. I'm not familiar enough with NTFS to help you further.
[06:35] <Bigcheese> apt-get install apt-get XD
[06:35] <inqui> aptitude
[06:35] <inqui> :>
[06:35] <Paddy_EIRE> howlingmadhowie: that seemed straight forward..? gonna check the winxp tower to see if I can access the folders I added as shared
[06:35] <anandanbu> kauer: thanks for you kind help
[06:36] <therethinker> kitche: Its a ATI catalyst, are those notorious for doing this?
[06:36] <RiCCo69> damn
[06:36] <aslam> how can setup a samba share from my ubuntu with username and password so i can access it on windows?
[06:36] <Sithe> magnetron im getting the error "Fatal Error: Could not load module "bin/vgui2.dll"
[06:36] <RiCCo69> still cant get the zoom feture to work
[06:36] <RiCCo69> shouldn't need to reboot
[06:36] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: inqui i don't like the look of the slash on the end of /media/my_book6/
[06:36] <inqui> uhu
[06:36] <kitche> therethinker: hmm well catalyst is what ATI uses for it's driver
[06:36] <Slart> I want to share files between two ubuntu machines, I've been using sshfs for this up to now but sshfs sometimes crashes when I'm moving many files etc.. is there a better way of sharing files between linux machines?
[06:36] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  i try to dislike it to
[06:36] <kitche> therethinker: unless they actually made a card named that
[06:36] <therethinker> therethinker: He said that's the name of the card
[06:37] <mannytu> lean something the other day using gpart
[06:37] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: i mean, does /media/mybook6 already exist as a directory ?
[06:37] <kitche> therethinker: sicne my windows computer uses catalyst to change it's settings for it's ati card
[06:37] <inqui> sudo ln -s /media/mybook_6 /media/usbdisk-5
[06:37] <inqui> still same
[06:37] <mannytu> don't f your SD to 32 if you use it with a Palm
[06:37] <magnetron> i cannot help you with that, Sithe. you could try purgin your ~/.wine and do a fresh install of Steam
[06:37] <inqui> yes ...
[06:37] <Nowak> Slart: scp for to copy files, nfs to export complete filesystem to other machine
[06:38] <aslam> help: how can setup a samba share from my ubuntu with username and password so i can access it on windows?
[06:38] <Slart> Nowak: but nfs seems so very... un
[06:38] <anandanbu> I am not able to write to a mounted USB device in Ubuntu 7.04 and the "mount" with no options says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32939/   can someone help me to solve this
[06:38] <Slart> Nowak: but nfs seems so very... unplanned.. the whole uid thingy etc
[06:38] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: hang on, i'm not yet up to speed on this one. at the moment you have in media a filesystem mounted on /media/mybook_6 and you want to create a link pointing to this filesystem at /media/usbdisk-5 ?
[06:38] <therethinker> kitche: So is this common, the X server not starting, due to ATI cards?
[06:39] <aslam> help: how can setup a samba share from my ubuntu with username and password so i can access it on windows?
[06:39] <howlingmadhowie> aslam: as far as i know, you can do this on ubuntu by right-clicking want you want to share and selecting "share"
[06:39] <kitche> therethinker: well it should work with vesa most likely there is something else wrong what is the exact error he is getting?
[06:39] <erUSUL> !samba | aslam
[06:39] <ubotu> aslam: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:39] <kauer>  inqi: What does "mount" say about /media/mybook_6 and /media/usbdisk-5?
[06:39] <aslam> i did setup a samba and it works if i put the security to share
[06:39] <kauer> inqi: Is it possible thatthe target directory was mounted ro?
[06:39] <Nowak> Slart: eh ? its like having the disk put in other machine
[06:40] <aslam> so it can view without putting in a passwd but when i try to put a username and passwd it doesnt work
[06:40] <inqui> my torrent client  works on my external HD  which i mount via FStab into /media/mybook6
[06:40] <inqui> but the torrent client trys to find it on /media/usbdisk-5
[06:40] <AyoTechnology> howto install my microsoft bluetooth keyboard??
[06:40] <AyoTechnology> howto install my microsoft bluetooth keyboard??
[06:40] <aslam> although i can acess is on another ubuntu machine
[06:40] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:
[06:40] <Sithe> Is WoW laggy on wine?
[06:40] <therethinker> kitche: He remembers "Could not find ____"
[06:40] <AyoTechnology> I have ubuntu gutsy
[06:40] <PriceChild> !gutsy | AyoTechnology
[06:40] <ubotu> AyoTechnology: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:41] <AyoTechnology> yes but please tell me howto install my microsoft bluetooth keyboard
[06:41] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  because i used to mount the usb-HD  there
[06:41] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: i'd recommend: sudo rmdir /usbdisk-5 and then ln -s /media/mybook6 /media/usbdisk-5
[06:41] <AyoTechnology> It is still ubuntu
[06:41] <ribando> hi everyon
[06:41] <magnetron> Sithe: no, for some ppl Wow runs faster in Wine than in windows. check appdb to see the software support of Wine
[06:41] <CheeseGardener> I don't see aptoncd in my listed programs :(
[06:41] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:   thanks
[06:41] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: sag bescheid, ob es funzt :)
[06:41] <Necrathex> hey, i'm trying to get distcc to work on my ubuntu machine, but it needs 'i586-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' which is not installed, any ideas how i can get it?
[06:41] <Slart> Nowak: yea, it's probably very easy to use.. but all the howto's are filled with stuff like, "this is insecure", "if someone can access your lan, they can access all your files", "if you don't do this, your machine will crash" etc etc.. it seems very.. unstable and unfinished.. even though I know it's been around for a long time
[06:41] <CITguy> aslam: are all of your PCs in the same workgroup?
[06:41] <CheeseGardener> do I have to update first?
[06:42] <PriceChild> AyoTechnology, gutsy is ONLY supported in #ubuntu+1
[06:42] <ribando> is it possible to install internet explorer in ubuntu?
[06:42] <kitche> Necrathex: build-essential will install it
[06:42] <ribando> using wine
[06:42] <aslam> yes
[06:42] <PriceChild> ribando, yeah
[06:42] <Nowak> Slart: ive been using nfs4 on cluster of 25 machines and i had no problems with it
[06:42] <AyoTechnology> it has todo with my keyboard not with the system
[06:42] <PriceChild> ie4linux or something/
[06:42] <AggAFK> join #perl
[06:42] <AyoTechnology> I need drivers or so
[06:42] <AggAFK> bah
[06:42] <Vinchenzo28> whats the easiest way of getting the flash plugins for firefox on ubuntu 7.04 fiesty 64 bit???
[06:42] <CITguy> aslam: you can access your ubuntu share from another ubuntu machine but not from windows?
[06:43] <kitche> Vinchenzo28: maybe nspluginwrapper
[06:43] <PriceChild> AyoTechnology, You're on gutsy. You are on an alpha system that we don't support here. EOD. Please /join #ubuntu+1
[06:43] <kauer> inqui: Any joy?
[06:43] <Vinchenzo28> kitche: how do i get that
[06:43] <magnetron> CheeseGardener: you have to enable the universe repository
[06:43] <aslam> yes when i put the password and username
[06:43] <Slart> Nowak: sigh.. well.. seems nfs is my best option after all...thanks for your advice
[06:43] <kitche> Vinchenzo28: umm go to it's website and grab it
[06:43] <Necrathex> kitche: i've got build-essential installed, but i only have i486-* versions
[06:43] <Vinchenzo28> kitche : search nspluginwrapper??
[06:43] <ribando> PriceChild can u help me out on that?because I can't get divx to play in ubuntu, u know...streaming on websites
[06:43] <CITguy> aslam: have you set up the samba password database?
[06:43] <asas> can anyone help me?
[06:43] <Sithe> Is Wine or Cedega better?
[06:43] <magnetron> !universe | CheeseGardener
[06:43] <ubotu> CheeseGardener: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:43] <magnetron> Sithe: in many cases, wine is better
[06:43] <asas> wine is for programs
[06:43] <asas> cedega is for games
[06:44] <magnetron> asas: wrong
[06:44] <aslam> CITguy: u mean with the command smbpasswd -a <username> ?
[06:44] <Slart> asas: or not..
[06:44] <asas> wahy i am wrong?
[06:44] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  seems to work, usbdisk-5 is now a symbolic-link
[06:44] <CITguy> aslam: yes
[06:44] <aslam> yes i did that
[06:44] <asas> on my computer i cant play games with wine lag..
[06:45] <CheeseGardener> how to I enable to universe respository?
[06:45] <CITguy> did you include in the smb.conf file a line containing
[06:45] <CITguy> "valid users = " and a comman separated list of users?
[06:45] <magnetron> asas: check out http://appdb.winehq.org/ and see that wine runs many games
[06:45] <asas> with cedega 100fps
[06:45] <Slart> asas: afaik wine and cedega are pretty even at the moment.. some games work a little better with one, some with the other.. but you can't say wine is for programs
[06:45] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: prima :)
[06:45] <magnetron> !universe | CheeseGardener  (read the link)
[06:45] <AyoTechnology> :(
[06:45] <ubotu> CheeseGardener  (read the link): The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:45] <asas> can you help me?
[06:45] <Sithe> When I log into the world in WoW. My whole computer freezes and I have to restart. What could be causing this
[06:45] <craig_> anyone got ledgersmb running ever?
[06:45] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  but still the torrent-client does not find the files
[06:46] <asas> when ubuntu starts i get errot failed to initialize hal
[06:46] <asas> please help me
[06:46] <AyoTechnology> asas	
[06:46] <Necrathex> i guess build-essential installes i486 versions because that's my local architecture, but i'd like to use other versions for distcc to be able to run :)
[06:46] <asas> ?
[06:46] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: that's not good. can you read them using a non-root account?
[06:46] <AyoTechnology> I am newbe
[06:46] <AyoTechnology> but i had same error
[06:46] <ribando> I need help...my ubuntu feisty always gets slow every now and then, as if it was doing something in the background, but really slow, to the point that when I'm moving the mouse, the mouse icon only moves after about 5/10 seconds.Help please
[06:46] <AyoTechnology> very easy to solve
[06:46] <aslam> Citguy: actually i didnt.. it has a %S next to it
[06:46] <AyoTechnology> dude
[06:46] <PriceChild> AyoTechnology, you are using gutsy. Please, just be patient in #ubuntu+1
[06:46] <AyoTechnology> open termina
[06:46] <kblin> ahrg
[06:46] <aslam> so should i just put the user name there separated by commas
[06:46] <AyoTechnology> they sleeeep
[06:47] <AyoTechnology> in #ubuntu+1
[06:47] <ravigehlot> After installing Apache2 I see that my httpd.conf file is empty. Why is that?
[06:47] <kblin> the ubuntu latex-beamer package lacks the only example I'm interested
[06:47] <Hobbsee> AyoTechnology: if you're a newbie, you shouldnt be running gutsy.
[06:47] <asas> ?
[06:47] <asas> help me anyone
[06:47] <CITguy> try adding that line to the section you want to add access, restart samba and tell me if it worked
[06:47] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  ... well the link is there ... but usbdisk is empty and mybook is filled
[06:47] <craig_> ravigehlot, you need to now edit apache.conf
[06:47] <Slart> asas: sorry.. can't help you with that.. I've never messed with the hal
[06:47] <kblin> upstream has it, of course
[06:47] <arpwatch> If I have wine installed, and when I click on a windows installer and it asks which program I want to use...is there a wine config I need to run through to make it accept .exe as a suitable file?
[06:47] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  so it doesnt work
[06:47] <ravigehlot> craig_: What is in there to edit if the file is empty? Is there a sample fiel?
[06:47] <craig_> ravigehlot, in /etc/apache2
[06:48] <asas> i am using ubuntu from the morning and i get error :(
[06:48] <aaron> arpwatch, run it from the CLI
[06:48] <AyoTechnology> asas open a terminal and type: sudo -s
[06:48] <aaron> wine yourprogram.exe
[06:48] <aslam> sorry i dint get that.. add to the section ... what section?
[06:48] <craig_> ravigehlot, is there such a folder?
[06:48] <arpwatch> aaron, k thanks
[06:48] <Sithe> arpwatch go into terminal and navigate to the directory and type "msiexec /i "thename of the msi" without quotes
[06:48] <ravigehlot> craig_: Yes. /etc/apache2/
[06:48] <Slart> arpwatch: I get a "run with wine"-choice if I right-click on a windows executable.. don't know what put it there.. wasn't manually done
[06:48] <AyoTechnology> then type your password
[06:48] <craig_> ravigehlot, all set?
[06:48] <ravigehlot> craig_: the httpd.conf file is present but empty
[06:48] <AyoTechnology> then type gedit /etc/fstab
[06:48] <Necrathex> or will making a symlink from to gcc work too?
[06:48] <CITguy> are you adding the configurations to the [global]  section or another section?
[06:48] <ravigehlot> craig_: yes the server is running
[06:49] <craig_> ravigehlot, what about apache.conf?
[06:49] <ribando> PriceChild can u tell me where can I download Internet Explorer from, to install in ubuntu feisty using wine?
[06:49] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: mm. maybe you should just mount it on /media/usbdisk-5
[06:49] <inqui> well
[06:49] <craig_> God, I love this cube desktop thing :)
[06:49] <inqui> it says
[06:49] <PriceChild> ribando, i think its ie4lniux or something... will google for you
[06:49] <ravigehlot> craig_: apache2.conf is filled but it does not have DirectoryIndex
[06:49] <AyoTechnology> there is a line with your windows partition comment it with #
[06:49] <AyoTechnology> then save
[06:49] <asas> when i passed in terminal sudo -s root has opened
[06:49] <AyoTechnology> yes
[06:49] <ravigehlot> craig_: I am looking for DirectoryIndex
[06:49] <AyoTechnology> type password
[06:49] <asas> and what now?
[06:49] <aslam> yes global is where i want it... so should put that in global?
[06:49] <AyoTechnology> then type gedit /etc/fstab
[06:49] <craig_> ravigehlot, you now have to deal with sites enabled.  You trying to do virtual hosting, right?
[06:50] <CITguy> yeah, try it and see if it works
[06:50] <ravigehlot> craig_: negative
[06:50] <ravigehlot> craig_: it is just local
[06:50] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  Fehler: Gert /dev/sdb6 ist schon in /media/mybook_6 eingebunden
[06:50] <PriceChild> ribando, yeah, ie4linux
[06:50] <craig_> Hang on... got to go to laptop
[06:50] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: you have to umount it first :)
[06:50] <ravigehlot> craig_: I do ColdFusion development and I need to have Apache read .cfm files. So I need to add it to the DirectoryIndex
[06:50] <asas> help me????!!!!~
[06:50] <AyoTechnology> have you asas?
[06:50] <asas> anyone help me
[06:50] <aslam> it didnt work
[06:50] <inqui> no way !
[06:50] <asas> what i have?
[06:51] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  no i just want it both ways
[06:51] <craigbass1976> ravigehlot, ok.  WHat's the issue?
[06:51] <CITguy> did you restart the samba daemon?
[06:51] <PriceChild> !help | asas
[06:51] <ravigehlot> craigbass1976: Where is DirectoryIndex on Apache2
[06:51] <ubotu> asas: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:51] <PriceChild> bah
[06:51] <aslam> yes i restarted it
[06:51] <kauer> asas: If noone answers it is because noone can help you. Sorry...
[06:51] <PriceChild> !please | asas
[06:51] <ubotu> asas: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[06:51] <craigbass1976> ravigehlot, not sure.  WHat does it do?
[06:51] <CITguy> ok, have you defined any other sections in the smb.conf file?
[06:51] <AyoTechnology> asas I can help
[06:52] <kmasta> my GRUB boot menu is showing I have like 3 versions of ubuntu on my harddrive, i'm using fiesty now, how do I get rid of the old ones. i think they're taking up room on my HD
[06:52] <asas> so?
[06:52] <asas> ayotechnology?
[06:52] <asas> help me?
[06:52] <pike_> kmasta: gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:52] <squash> can some1 help me? i have two sound card (sb audigy 2 and one integrated with mainboard) i have rebooted my pc and os changed my integrated card on base. Changes in sound settings won't give any changes :/
[06:52] <AyoTechnology> have you roo@username: in terminal now??
[06:52] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: then remove the link we just made and make a verzeichnis instead. then try: mount --bind /medai/mybook6 /media/usbdisk-5
[06:52] <AyoTechnology> root
[06:52] <asas> yes
[06:52] <kmasta> pike_ but won't they still be taking up space on my hD
[06:52] <LiberCogito> kmasta: Those are previous kernel versions, not different intstalls.
[06:52] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/779396.html
[06:52] <asas> yes i have
[06:52] <pike_> kmasta: you mean the kernel versions?
[06:53] <AyoTechnology> type gedit /etc/fstab
[06:53] <kmasta> yea yea
[06:53] <ribando> PriceChild yeah, I got it and downloading now...thanks alot ;)
[06:53] <aslam> yes i made changes to guest account = ( n i put "smb")
[06:53] <kmasta> they're previous kernel installs
[06:53] <nexous> How do I make Windows boot upbefore ubuntu on boot list?
[06:53] <pike_> kmasta: you can use the package manager to remove em or just delete em from /boot
[06:53] <asas> something has opened
[06:53] <Necrathex> anyone know how to get i586-pc-linux-gnu-gcc installed on ubuntu? :)
[06:53] <jamiejcumbria> Any one help. mii-tool reports eth1 as 100baset ethtool reports 1000baset anyone help find out wich one is right. Or the command for m11-tool to set it to 1000baset. Network is running at about 1 meg a sec. Cheers
[06:53] <pike_> kmasta: synaptic is best prob
[06:53] <asas> what now?
[06:53] <AyoTechnology> asas do you have a windows partition?
[06:53] <squash> can someone help me with my sound?
[06:54] <kmasta> pike_ what do I look for in synaptic
[06:54] <aslam> i also did this username map thing
[06:54] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: we're not talking about creating a symbolic link on the fat32 partition, so the problems mentioned on that website don't effect us :)
[06:54] <asas> on my computer is windows and ubuntu i have installed ubuntu with the some program
[06:54] <asas> ] 
[06:54] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  YES
[06:54] <asas> wubi progtam
[06:54] <inqui> ur last idea works fine
[06:54] <neverblue> is there a channel for pgadmin3 support?
[06:54] <asas> wubi program
[06:54] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: YES?
[06:54] <AyoTechnology> asas: ok then you had the same problem like me
[06:54] <AyoTechnology> someting opened up you said
[06:54] <asas> and?
[06:54] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  (18:54:27)  inqui:  ur last idea works fine
[06:55] <pike_> kmasta: search for linux-image   itll be selected if installed and just uncheck whichever you want to remove
[06:55] <AyoTechnology> search  for a line containing NTFS
[06:55] <CITguy> have you set the "WORKGROUP = " line to your workgroup?
[06:55] <therethinker> kitche: the error is "Fatal Server errors: No screens found"
[06:55] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: sorry? i don't understand :)
[06:55] <unagi> hp is run by morons =*(
[06:55] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  still the torrent client does not find the files ;D
[06:55] <AyoTechnology> example: UUID=1579CEAC65E974BA /media/sda1     ntfs
[06:55] <asas> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[06:55] <asas> proc            /proc           proc        defaults          0   0
[06:55] <kmasta> pike_ so I can uninstall all the kernals except the latest one
[06:55] <bannerman> Do people really use md for software raid? The advice I've got here seems to be mostly wrong.
[06:55] <pike_> kmasta: yeah
[06:55] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: but you can see them now :) that's good :)
[06:55] <bannerman> I really want to know if I'm just wasting my time on the wrong solution
[06:56] <aslam> yes i did set the workgroup to workgroup and i can even see it in workgroup in the windows computer but cant get in
[06:56] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  i can ls /media/usb bla and get content of /media/mybook bla
[06:56] <kmasta> pike_ mark for removal or mark for complete removal
[06:56] <AyoTechnology> do you see a line with ntfs?
[06:56] <asas> no
[06:56] <CITguy> ok, hang a sec
[06:56] <Kyle__> anyone know a plug 'n play (fully supported by ubuntu) WIFI card?
[06:56] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: cool :) you've just copied part of a file system onto another part of the filesystem :)
[06:56] <pike_> kmasta: ive not used synaptic.. id guess 'complete removal' is maybe --purge? but im not sure
[06:56] <asas> ext3
[06:56] <asas> ext3
[06:56] <soundray> kost_: still here?
[06:56] <asas> and swap
[06:57] <asas> maybe its because i installed ubuntu with wubi?
[06:57] <howlingmadhowie> inqui: sorry, copied is the wrong word. you mounted it there :) as to why your torrent-client can't see the files: i dunno :(
[06:57] <kmasta> pike_ should i just do it in cli then?
[06:57] <inqui> yeah
[06:57] <inqui> but i will fix this
[06:57] <asas> so?
[06:58] <pike_> kmasta: thats what id do. just dpkg -l | grep linux-image  then sudo apt-get remove the ones you dont want in that list
[06:58] <AyoTechnology> no it hasn't anything to do with wubi
[06:58] <inqui> howlingmadhowie:  thank you very much so far - i got to try remove the device and mount again
[06:58] <kmasta> pike_ ah here's the difference. complete removal removes all dependancies
[06:58] <AyoTechnology> asas it is WETHER a problem with NTFS SAMBA SHARES in you "fstab" file OR it is because of automatic login
[06:59] <AyoTechnology> asas: does your ubuntu automatically login?
[06:59] <CITguy> aslam: can you post your [global]  section?
[06:59] <asas> i must to enter my name and password
[07:00] <asas> and why i cant see my dvd drive?
[07:00] <AyoTechnology> is your windows parition mounted?
[07:00] <asas> i dont understand?
[07:00] <howlingmadhowie> little_bit_off_topic: it's starting: http://www.sun.com/featured-articles/2007-0807/feature/index.jsp?intcmp=hp2007aug07_ultrasparct2_webcast :)
[07:01] <lattera> how can I load drivers for my cdrom drive upon livecd boot?
[07:01] <craigbass1976> What;s the method of stopping things from starting at boot?  Something besides GUI and editing rc folders manually.
[07:01] <craigbass1976> Can't remember
[07:01] <AyoTechnology> do you see your windows partition when you got to places->my computer
[07:01] <AyoTechnology> it must be in the left pane
[07:01] <lattera> ubuntu complains about not having drivers for my cdrom drive
[07:01] <CITguy> craigbass1976: sysv-rc-conf
[07:01] <kmasta> pike_, remove completely purges and then removes all the dependancies
[07:02] <jmanuel_cool> hello, how can i add channels?, please help i'm newbie
[07:02] <Guychi> Hi!   How can I in one command line direct the output of a script (a URL) as the input for curl?
[07:02] <asas> i see host and filesystem
[07:02] <asas> in host is my windows files
[07:02] <Guychi> i.e. python myscript.py .... curl -O ...  ?
[07:03] <AyoTechnology> asas then You Must have a lint containing your NTFS partition in the fstab file
[07:03] <AyoTechnology> line^^
[07:04] <unodipalermo> ma nn salva il log delle conversazioni quando chiudo gaim?
[07:04] <asas> can you help me with skype?whats your skype?
[07:04] <unodipalermo> cmq ho riavviato il pc ma nessun suono
[07:04] <arpwatch> Is there not a nice UI for samba connections for gnome, like kde has smb4k?
[07:04] <asas> i could send you scren shots
[07:04] <AyoTechnology> dude I have no skype
[07:04] <cc1973> parallels on mac help
[07:04] <cc1973> w/ubuntu
[07:05] <cc1973> network connection lost
[07:05] <asas> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[07:05] <asas> proc            /proc           proc        defaults          0   0
[07:05] <AyoTechnology> no other lines
[07:05] <shadow28> help
[07:05] <AyoTechnology> ?
[07:05] <shadow28> can anyone help me with an xorg.conf query?
[07:06] <asas> in other lines only swp and ext3
[07:06] <asas> swap
[07:06] <AyoTechnology> if there is NOTHinG with ntfs or related to your windows partition there is no help.,,,
[07:06] <soundray> cc1973: I tried parallels but got stuck with vmware fusion
[07:07] <bkeating> vsftpd and NIS - I just installed vsftpd and NIS user accounts will not connect - any pointers? I think i need to change my PAM method?
[07:07] <AyoTechnology> but IF there is a line containing something related to your windows partition
[07:07] <AyoTechnology> just comment it
[07:07] <skunk> i'm searching a programm whitch shows howmany mb transfered between my networkcards, can somebody help me?
[07:07] <andreas_> hi all
[07:07] <asas> nothing with windows or ntfs
[07:07] <asas> only linux
[07:07] <andreas_> I am a bioinformatics PhD student from germany
[07:08] <soundray> Hi andreas_, this is not a chat channel. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:08] <CITguy> aslam: try this as root
[07:08] <CITguy> cat /etc/passwd | mksmbpasswd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd
[07:08] <CITguy> pdbedit -a -u <username>
[07:08] <CITguy> /etc/init.d/samba restart
[07:08] <andreas_> My boss just told me that I will have the great honor ;) to set up a linux cluster of 15 dual core opterons in the next two mongth
[07:09] <aslam> [global] 
[07:09] <aslam> ## Browsing/Identification ###
[07:09] <aslam> # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of
[07:09] <aslam>    workgroup = WORKGROUP
[07:09] <aslam> # server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field
[07:09] <aslam>    server string = %h server (Samba, Ubuntu)
[07:09] <soundray> andreas_: lucky you, I'm so envious
[07:09] <aslam> # Windows Internet Name Serving Support Section:
[07:09] <andreas_> I am thinking about the Ubuntu server edition as linux distro
[07:09] <aslam> # WINS Support - Tells the NMBD component of Samba to enable its WINS Server
[07:09] <aslam> ;   wins support = no
[07:09] <jamiejcumbria> any one tell me how to test weather my gigabit nic is working a 1000baset?
[07:10] <needhelp> In a wireless lan, is DNS the ip of the router ?
[07:10] <andreas_> My question is: How stable is the Ubuntu server release compared to lets say debian stable?
[07:10] <pike_> andreas_: if i were going with a server id be debian etch.
[07:10] <kitche> theconartist: sorry about that went to the bank ok so he needs to configure X then there is two ways to do it either with sudo X -configure or the debian way
[07:11] <profanephobia> andreas_, debian stable is more stable theoritcally becuase ubuntu is based off of debian experimental
[07:11] <soundray> andreas_: do you mean stability in terms of robustness to crashes or frequency of (security|feature)-updates?
[07:11] <magnetron> andreas_: the LTS release of ubuntu is very stable
[07:12] <andreas_> with stable I mean both: security and stability crashwise
[07:12] <Sithe> magnetron when ever i start up CSS it starts normal then it goes to a black screen
[07:12] <hansdiewanz> www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=2704
[07:12] <PriceChild> needhelp, sounds sensible if your router is acting as the gateway.
[07:12] <yoshibond> hey everyone!
[07:12] <yoshibond> would someone be able to help me setup TV-out support in ubuntu?
[07:13] <needhelp> PriceChild: where "sensible" = "yes" ??
[07:13] <bannerman> aiee, grub won't install! help. It's super descriptive, it says it "failed" on /dev/sda
[07:13] <yoshibond> i have a geforce 6150 onboard with my Asus M2NPV-VM mobo
[07:13] <magnetron> Sithe: i told you, i cannot give you support on windows programs. check wine appdb for help!
[07:13] <andreas_> the thing is that our desktop machines are ubuntu, so it would be nice to stick with ubuntu for the cluster too
[07:13] <yoshibond> and i cant get the TV out to work via the component video output
[07:13] <PriceChild> needhelp, if your router is the thing that connect to the internet, then yeah I guess its sensible :)
[07:13] <yoshibond> i have played around with the xorg.conf
[07:13] <yoshibond> with the default one nothing comes up (blank screen)
[07:13] <pike_> andreas_: itll be hard to tell the difference unless you cat sources.list. :)
[07:13] <needhelp> PriceChild: alright, thnks:)
[07:13] <magnetron> !enter | yoshibond
[07:13] <soundray> andreas_: if you're already into ubuntu, I'd stick with it. The difference in terms of stability is small, if relevant at all.
[07:13] <ubotu> yoshibond: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:14] <yoshibond> ok sorry
[07:14] <yoshibond> ill start again
[07:14] <needhelp> is the ethernet card in any way in use when using a wireless lan? or can be disabled?
[07:15] <bkeating> vsftpd and NIS - I just installed vsftpd and NIS user accounts will not connect - any pointers? I think i need to change my PAM method?
[07:15] <PriceChild> needhelp, your turn... what sounds sensible to you? :)
[07:15] <rimose> Hey. Anyone know how to encrypt compressed files in File-Roller?
[07:16] <yoshibond> ok problem: i am trying to setup my computer to use my tv as display via component video outputs on mobo (Asus M2NPV-VM with onboard Geforce 6150). With the default xorg.conf I get no video (its not a hardware problem as when I open the BIOS and the loaded Ubuntu screen looks PERFECT). I changed my xorg.conf (replaced all of it) to one I found on the internet for someone using 1080i output, then a picture came up but it was all blu
[07:16] <yoshibond> e tinted and bad quality - i have no clue what else to try
[07:16] <needhelp> PriceChild: sensible? hmmm dunno.. I would guess dns addr = router ip
[07:16] <andreas_> thx guys
[07:16] <soundray> andreas_: what kind of processing will you be running?
[07:16] <PriceChild> needhelp, no... as in would one network card not connected, affect another one which is?
[07:17] <magnetron> rimose: the encryption in ZIP files is very weak and can easily be bypassed. you should use a dedicated encryption solution, like GPG with Seahorse
[07:17] <mister> hello... how can i tar an .rar file on ubuntu ? thankx
[07:17] <PriceChild> mister, you want to unrar, and then tar back up?
[07:17] <mister> i want to unrar yes..but i dont have unrar...
[07:17] <x2Fusion> DCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[07:17] <PriceChild> mister, "sudo apt-get install unrar" ?
[07:17] <yoshibond> ubotu --- can you help with my question?
[07:18] <rimose> magnetron, GPG with Seahorse? So I have to encrypt, then compress?
[07:18] <mister> other way ??? PriceChild ?? with tar / gunzip ?? no way ?
[07:18] <magnetron> rimose: first compress, then encrypt
[07:18] <PriceChild> mister, rars need unrar to unrar them...?
[07:18] <yoshibond> can someone help with my video out problem please!
[07:19] <PriceChild> yoshibond, what card are you using?
[07:19] <rimose> magnetron, since I only need a local solution, would encrypting an entire partition be easier?
[07:19] <yoshibond> here PriceChild - i will post the problem again
[07:19] <yoshibond> ok problem: i am trying to setup my computer to use my tv as display via component video outputs on mobo (Asus M2NPV-VM with onboard Geforce 6150). With the default xorg.conf I get no video (its not a hardware problem as when I open the BIOS and the loaded Ubuntu screen looks PERFECT). I changed my xorg.conf (replaced all of it) to one I found on the internet for someone using 1080i output, then a picture came up but it was all blu
[07:19] <yoshibond> e tinted and bad quality - i have no clue what else to try\
[07:19] <soundray> !tvout | yoshibond
[07:19] <ubotu> yoshibond: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[07:19] <soundray> !ubotu | yoshibond
[07:19] <ubotu> yoshibond: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:19] <yoshibond> i have tried everything the bot is recommending
[07:19] <PriceChild> yoshibond, ah so you want both tv out and vga working... or just tv out?
[07:20] <mister> PriceChild,  how can i transforme an .rar file to an .tar.gz / .tgz / .tar file :-? can you tell me ?
[07:20] <yoshibond> i dont care - just tv is fine - its for a dedicated home theater pc
[07:20] <rimose> !file encryption
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about file encryption - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <PriceChild> mister, install unrar, and then use the gui to extract it then archive it
[07:20] <PriceChild> yoshibond, ok... well I have both working. I will pastebin my xorg.conf for you to look at
[07:21] <needhelp> PriceChild: so by doing 'ifconfig ra1', there should come up an IP. No IP is shown. Doing 'iwlist scan' shows three cells, none of them contains the correct SSID which I entered and quality of all of them are 0/100.....
[07:21] <yoshibond> can i just use your xorg.conf priceChild
[07:21] <yoshibond> ?
[07:21] <magnetron> the easiest of encrypting a partition in ubuntu would be Truecrypt. even then, if you just want to encrypt 10~20 files, gpg would be the most "standard" way of doing it
[07:21] <yoshibond> the closest I have come to getting this working was when i used someone elses xorg.conf but it had HORRIBLE overscan
[07:21] <charli1> anybody had problems with avi video
[07:21] <charli1> i cant play avi videos
[07:22] <magnetron> !codec | charli1
[07:22] <ubotu> charli1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:22] <PriceChild> yoshibond, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32945/ You will want to use the "tv" bits from mine, but not the twinview bits.
[07:22] <rimose> charli1, I would recommend kmplayer.
[07:22] <yoshibond> ok how do  ichose those
[07:22] <yoshibond> ?
[07:22] <PriceChild> needhelp, sudo iwconfig ra1 essid <name>
[07:22] <PriceChild> needhelp, sudo dhclient ra1
[07:23] <PriceChild> needhelp, that "should" work
[07:23] <yoshibond> PriceChild you said that i have to chose tv bits?
[07:23] <yoshibond> how do i do that?
[07:23] <CheeseGardener> Could someone give me a hand restoring from AptOnCD????
[07:23] <rimose> Thanks, magnetron. Helped a lot!
[07:23] <magnetron> glad to help, rimose
[07:24] <magnetron> CheeseGardener: a disk made with aptoncd only contains the individual packages, not the ubuntu installer
[07:25] <yoshibond> PriceChild -- sorry to bother - what do i do with your xorg.conf -- about TV bits or something?
[07:25] <CheeseGardener> Ok, mangetron how do I get all the packages to install again????
[07:25] <charli1> kmplayer?
[07:26] <charli1> for the videos
[07:26] <mister> hello..how can i tar an folder :-?
[07:26] <jrib> mister: right click on it -> create archive
[07:26] <mister> i mean make an arhive ( .tar.gz / .tgz )
[07:26] <variant> mister: man tar will tell you, otherwise use file-roller
[07:26] <CheeseGardener> How do I get the packages from the CD to install???
[07:27] <soundray> CheeseGardener: don't be so impatient. What exactly are you trying to restore?
[07:27] <CheeseGardener> I clicked "restore from ISO"
[07:27] <mister> jrib, on terminal...
[07:27] <lattera> the ubuntu cds are not recognizing my cdrom drive
[07:27] <lattera> is there any way to load drivers during boot?
[07:27] <CheeseGardener> My programs.  I had created a restore ISO before.
[07:27] <variant> lattera: most drivers are loaded during boot
[07:27] <baconbacon> enigmail-locale-** should be required when enigmail _and_ language-pack-** is installed. My question is: can dpkg do this?
[07:27] <CheeseGardener> It says it put the packages in the "cache"
[07:27] <lattera> yeah, but the driver for my cdrom drive isn't being loaded
[07:28] <soundray> CheeseGardener: cp /cdrom/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:28] <jrib> mister: the third example in the man page for tar does that.  Just type 'man tar', press enter, hit / and then type "examples" and hit enter.  You should see it
[07:28] <lattera> it's a brand new laptop and ubuntu's not recognizing my cdrom drive
[07:28] <variant> lattera: that seems unlikley
[07:28] <jimmyxx> Hi All, im on my laptop as I've just upgraded my desktop to fiesty but for some reason now its wireless card isn't working, it doesn't have a wireless option in the network tools. Does anyone know of a way of redescvoering my wireless card? its tricky as now that computer isn't on the internet :(
[07:28] <lattera> what else would it be?
[07:28] <lattera> it works in gentoo
[07:28] <CheeseGardener> It's not a CD rom soundray
[07:28] <variant> lattera: does lshw list it? (run sudo lshw | less for a convenient way to view it)
[07:28] <CheeseGardener> it's an ISO
[07:28] <soundray> CheeseGardener: then mount the iso
[07:28] <lattera> from the livecd?
[07:29] <soundray> !mountiso | CheeseGardener
[07:29] <ubotu> CheeseGardener: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:29] <variant> lattera: if you are in the live cd
[07:29] <lattera> does busybox have it?
[07:29] <lattera> because that's all I have
[07:29] <needhelp> PriceChild: 'iwconfig ra1 essid ssiid' - no output
[07:29] <variant> lattera: remember that you can't eject the live cd during operation (unless you loaded the contents to ram)
[07:29] <jimmyxx> did anyone see my message about wireless cards & fiesty? ^^ :(
[07:29] <lattera> it drops me into a busybox shell
[07:29] <teiwaz>  can anyone help me get a pharos gps-360 working with any sort of gps program?
[07:29] <variant> lattera: afaik, the ubuntu live cd does not use busy box..
[07:30] <[_AngelBroz_] > Heya :), i have a problem how i can have root privileges with ubuntu
[07:30] <needhelp> PriceChild: 'sudo dhclient ra1' - Output: "No DHCPOFFERS recieved, No working leases in persistant database - sleeping."
[07:30] <magnetron> !sudo | [_AngelBroz_] 
[07:30] <ubotu> [_AngelBroz_] : sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:30] <lattera> I'm looking at busybox right now
[07:30] <variant> [_AngelBroz_] : type sudo -i and enter your users password
[07:30] <[_AngelBroz_] > :)
[07:30] <[_AngelBroz_] > ty
[07:30] <amzz2U> hey
[07:30] <jimmyxx> Hi All, im on my laptop as I've just upgraded my desktop to fiesty but for some reason now its wireless card isn't working, it doesn't have a wireless option in the network tools. Does anyone know of a way of redescvoering my wireless card? its tricky as now that computer isn't on the internet :(
[07:30] <lattera> lshw: command not found
[07:31] <variant> lattera: ok, i'm trying to eat. will be back in 5 mins if you are still here.
[07:31] <amzz2U> i have a problem on ubuntu fiesty 7.04
[07:31] <CheeseGardener> soundray I'm having trouble mounting it.
[07:31] <soundray> jimmyxx: what kind of wireless card is it?
[07:31] <RiCCo69> hey i'm new to ubuntu. got allmost everything going not. but what's a good d-loading program for music for fiesty?
[07:31] <soundray> CheeseGardener: what's the trouble?
[07:31] <amzz2U> i have a Asus A8N-VM mobo with NVDIA on board sound
[07:31] <jimmyxx> its a dodgy one by an undeard of chinese company, but it worked on edgy
[07:31] <jimmyxx> unheard**
[07:31] <soundray> jimmyxx: USB? PCI?
[07:31] <jimmyxx> PCI sorry
[07:31] <amzz2U> driver used its intel8x0
[07:31] <animal> how can i install valknut, or what other dc++ client will you recommend ?? for ubuntu 7.04 ??
[07:31] <CheeseGardener> I understand I have to type sudo mount -o loop
[07:32] <mike340> hi need some quick help im installing ubuntu on my laptop that already has windows, its onanother partition and i dont want to mess up windows booting... is there a way to install grub to my usb stick? i am on step 7 of installation
[07:32] <variant> RiCCo69: any file sharing application will do. azureus is popular for bittorrent
[07:32] <CheeseGardener> but do I pull the ISO right next to there?
[07:32] <CheeseGardener> how do I what the mount is for the CD rom?
[07:32] <amzz2U> and i have 5.1 speakers
[07:32] <RiCCo69> i'm going to use it mainly for singles. does azureus do that?
[07:33] <animal> how can i install valknut, or what other dc++ client will you recommend ?? for ubuntu 7.04 ??
[07:33] <amzz2U> the problem is sound only comes from my right cahannels
[07:33] <jrib> mister: note that example I mentioned doesn't compress it, so you need to add 'z' to get it to become an actual tar.gz file instead of just a .tar file
[07:33] <amzz2U> plus center
[07:33] <soundray> CheeseGardener: sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mnt
[07:33] <rimose> mike340, grub won't mess up your windows boot.
[07:33] <yamyogurt> anyone willing to help me out with a screen resolution problem?
[07:33] <jmanuel_cool> sorry, i want to install cinelerra in kubuntu 64bits (i'm sorry for my bad english)
[07:33] <variant> RiCCo69: azureus is for torrent files. torrent files can be anything at all
[07:33] <variant> RiCCo69: singles/albums - whatever
[07:33] <yoshibond> im back - r u still here pricechild?
[07:33] <amzz2U> can anyone help me with this sound prob
[07:33] <soundray> CheeseGardener: then your iso will be mounted on /mnt/
[07:33] <variant> RiCCo69: you would be better off getting music from the likes of magnatune
[07:33] <variant> RiCCo69: which is a website
[07:33] <CheeseGardener> ok
[07:34] <CheeseGardener> now how do I restore from it?
[07:34] <animal> pls someone help me install a dc++ client
[07:34] <malnilion> This is the stupidest of all stupid questions, but what does suspend do?
[07:34] <variant> malnilion: it floats your computer down a river
[07:34] <yoshibond> can someone please help me get my tv output setup!
[07:34] <RiCCo69> azureus can i get that from terminal?
[07:34] <amzz2U> someone please help me with my sound prblem
[07:34] <malnilion> variant, how does one unfloat it down the river? lol
[07:34] <rimose> malnilion, it's supposed to be a low power consumption mode, but it seldom works.
[07:35] <variant> RiCCo69: apt-get install azureus
[07:35] <RiCCo69> awsome thanx
[07:35] <yoshibond> now i screwed up my driver i think because when i click on restricted device manager it shows that i do not have any restricted devices - before it would show my nvidia dirver
[07:35] <ferronica> everytime when i start my PC ubuntu automount my windows HDD, how to disable it ?
[07:35] <BVBBQ> Im using edgy, is it a good idea to go for Feisty yet?
[07:35] <PriceChild> Hey sorry yoshibond
[07:35] <malnilion> rimose, that's the answer I needed, it was crashing me bad
[07:35] <yoshibond> pricechild - thanks!
[07:35] <variant> RiCCo69: you find the torrrent files via google. make sure you set up azureus according to the azureus wiki
[07:35] <ggeller> ferronica: Edit /etc/fstab
[07:35] <malnilion> rimose, does hibernate work better?
[07:35] <PriceChild> yoshibond, I'm really not the expert on this... you can see my xorg to show how I managed to get my nvidia tv out working.
[07:35] <yoshibond> pricechild - i couldnt get your file to work .. but i think i screwed somethuing else up
[07:35] <rimose> malnilion, my computer supports suspend and hibernate about 90%, the computer has problems waking up from both.
[07:36] <ggeller>  How do I use apt-get (or whatever) to get a list of available packages?
[07:36] <jrib> !apt > ggeller (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:36] <yoshibond> i think my driver is scrwewed up - how can i fix this (reinstall the Nvidia drivers)
[07:36] <variant> malnilion: it does work better. suspend and other features like that are mostly not working due to poorly implemented acpi on your motherboard
[07:36] <ferronica> ggeller: what command to open that file to alter
[07:36] <variant> ggeller: apt-cache search progname
[07:36] <malnilion> variant, I'd believe that.
[07:36] <rimose> malnilion,  I wouldn't bother with either.
[07:36] <malnilion> I wouldn't either
[07:37] <yamyogurt> my screen resolution is at 800X600 and every time i try and fix my xorg.conf when I reboot it puts me into console
[07:37] <lattera> ubuntu isn't even recognizing my cdrom drive
[07:37] <malnilion> Thanks for your help, rimose and variant
[07:37] <lattera> dmesg doesn't report it being there
[07:37] <yoshibond> when i used your file as the xorg.conf it showed that it couldnt find the nvidia
[07:37] <ferronica> ggeller: how to open that file ?
[07:37] <Xsss4hell> beryl or compiz??
[07:37] <yoshibond> but i ahve the drivers installed as far as i know
[07:37] <rimose> lattera, can you dual boot Windows or some other OS?
[07:37] <ggeller> ferronica: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:37] <lattera> I guess I could install win2k...
[07:37] <jrib> !tar > mister (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:38] <ggeller> Then comment out the line for this filesystem.
[07:38] <lattera> gentoo recognizes it as a generic cdrom
[07:38] <variant> lattera: yes, that is an option
[07:38] <rimose> lattera, I meant does it work with a different OS?
[07:38] <variant> lattera: use gentoo then?
[07:38] <mister> k
[07:38] <mister> i didi it
[07:38] <soundray> ggeller: please recommend gksudo with graphical programs (sets up a more appropriate environment)
[07:38] <aaron> are there any CLI editors besides nano and vi? i'd like something that will color code shell scripts like gedit or notepad++
[07:38] <lattera> gentoo is proving to not work
[07:38] <ggeller> ferronica: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:38] <lattera> everything is running very slowly
[07:38] <kaksoisv> how i can get beryl working?
[07:38] <variant> aaron: nano does syntax highlighting too. you can check out emacs too, very powerfull but also steep learning curve
[07:39] <variant> kaksoisv: click your heals together 3 tiems
[07:39] <kaksoisv> what i do after i have downloaded it?
[07:39] <kitche> emacs is not an editor it's an OS :)
[07:39] <CheeseGardener> soundray I'm still having problems :(, could you break this down for me a little more?
[07:39] <yum__> i am starting up in single-user mode and it is asking me for a root password, but none is set and it won't let me log in
[07:39] <ferronica> ggeller: /dev/sdc1 /media/Local\040Disk ntfs umask=222,utf8 0 0
[07:40] <soundray> CheeseGardener: you've got to say what the problem is.
[07:40] <lattera> it's just an atapi sata cdrom
[07:40] <aaron> variant, you know where nanorc is on a debian system?
[07:40] <rimose> !seahorse
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seahorse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <rimose> !gnomegpg
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomegpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <CheeseGardener> I think I'm either mounting it wrong or something else.  Could you IM me and I'll give you all the info.
[07:40] <marti149> hi guys, how do I allow root to connect via ssh and winscp ?
[07:41] <variant> aaron: yeah, you can have a global one or a local user one .nanorc
[07:41] <marti149> I mounted an encrypted drive and only root can write to it
[07:41] <rimose> While you're on the subject, I'm mounting a fuse-3g partition with the user setting, but it doesn't let users mount and unmount. What am I doing wrong?
[07:41] <soundray> CheeseGardener: join #ubuntu-classroom
[07:41] <Xsss4hell> !beryl
[07:41] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:41] <rimose> I'm sorry, ntfs-3g
[07:42] <marti149> its like 3ddesktop --
[07:42] <codecaine> is there a real advance math tutorial app for ubuntu?
[07:42] <marti149> r
[07:42] <marti149> r is like matlab
[07:44] <jrib> codecaine: there's octave and maxima
[07:44] <marti149> hi guys, how do I allow root to connect via ssh and winscp ?
[07:44] <codecaine> does it teaches u
[07:44] <codecaine> I thought it just solve problems
[07:45] <rimose> codecaine, if you want to study advanced calculus and algebra, well, sign up to a course.
[07:45] <jrib> codecaine: oh, no you're right, it's just to solve problems.  I didn't understand what you meant
[07:46] <codecaine> k ty
[07:46] <[andres] > I'm having problems starting programs in X. starting in failsafe terminal mode works, but everything else just hangs. gnome hangs, and firefox from the failsafe term hangs. strace shows it hanging in the same operation. what can I do to find the problem?
[07:46] <codecaine> I know kde has some education programs but there very basic
[07:47] <askand> I think the titlebar of my windows just got smaller..how to make them bigger?
[07:47] <ferronica> ggeller: ???
[07:47] <ferronica> ggeller: what command once again please ?
[07:47] <jrib> marti149: I wouldn't, it's a bad idea imo.  Besides you can just use your user and sudo with him like you do locally
[07:47] <therethinker> is there a way to send a message to all users logged in?
[07:47] <magnetron> codecaine: there are some basic math games for ubuntu too, but they are very basic. if you check out "add/remove applications" you will find them
[07:47] <needhelp> Hi, can someone guide me setting up wireless network with a D-Link DIR-635 router and a Ubuntu 704 client with a wireless network card ?
[07:48] <codecaine> ty I think I have them already :)
[07:48] <rimose> askand, there's an "Appearance" item in the preferences menu, try that.
[07:48] <aneb> What is the magic way to remove the restricted drivers contaminating Ubuntu?
[07:49] <rimose> aneb, install Debian?
[07:49] <aneb> rimose: I can't
[07:49] <rimose> Yeah, I was kidding.
[07:49] <rimose> You can use synaptic. Search for "restricted", and remove.
[07:49] <BVBBQ> Im using edgy, is it a good idea to go for Feisty yet?
[07:50] <rimose> BVBBQ, yes, use the update manager, it'll do it automatically for you.
[07:50] <jrib> aneb: they aren't installed unless you choose to install them
[07:50] <lattera> ubuntu doesn't even say the cdrom exists in the syslog/dmesg output
[07:50] <lattera> the kernel (or modules) isn't detecting it
[07:50] <jrib> aneb: system -> administration -> restricted drives manager should tell you the status
[07:50] <rimose> lattera, does the BIOS detect it?
[07:50] <lattera> yes
[07:50] <rimose> Hm.
[07:51] <rimose> Can you boot a live CD off of it?
[07:51] <lattera> yes
[07:51] <lattera> I installed gentoo off it
[07:51] <lattera> and have used it in the installed gentoo environment
[07:51] <rimose> lattera, must be a configuration issue, but aside from resetting your configuration I have no idea what you can do.
[07:51] <diminthedam> can someone recommend a good ubuntu tool for managing software localisation (string counts in .po .xml files)?
[07:51] <mike340> hi need some quick help im installing ubuntu on my laptop that already has windows, its onanother partition and i dont want to mess up windows booting... is there a way to install grub to my usb stick? i am on step 7 of installation
[07:52] <herbaliser> hi at the login screen i get wrong keyboard layout in gnome all is ok how do i change this?
[07:53] <rimose> mike340, you can install grub on your USB stick, but it'll make booting a hassle.
[07:53] <andyp_> hi
[07:53] <mike340> rimose: how so?
[07:53] <andyp_> how to add user andyp to audio group?
[07:53] <jrib> andyp_: sudo adduser andyp audio
[07:53] <the_bull> hey all!
[07:53] <the_bull> can nyone suggest me one thing?
[07:54] <lattera> yes!!!
[07:54] <rimose> mike340, you'll have to change your BIOS to boot from USB.
[07:54] <lattera> it was a bios setting
[07:54] <lattera> I had to enable ahcpi
[07:54] <rimose> Good going, lattera.
[07:54] <lattera> freak, this was pissing me off
[07:54] <the_bull> do nyone know the value of Ubuntu certification with compare to RHCE?
[07:54] <mike340> rimose: oh thats no problem at all
[07:54] <andyp_> jrib: thanks
[07:54] <mike340> rimose: i just have a question when i click the advcanced button it says it will install to (hd0) what do ui put in to make it install to usb
[07:55] <diminthedam> can someone recommend a good ubuntu tool for managing software localisation (e.g. string counts in .po .xml files)?
[07:55] <lockd> what the?
[07:55] <nixternal> !staff
[07:55] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[07:55] <lattera> thanks for your help
[07:56] <Borzo> hello
[07:56] <nixternal> Borzo: hold on one second...need a bit of stabalization here before people come back to life :)
[07:56] <Stx> nixternal: Where you attacked?
[07:56] <nixternal> no
[07:56] <Dreamless> bah netsplit?
[07:56] <ribando> hi everyone...
[07:57] <Stx> k..
[07:57] <jrib> !traffic
[07:57] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[07:57] <nixternal> people came in and did ctcp/dcc attacks to exploit those with bogus routers
[07:57] <osxdude|laptop> What waas that
[07:57] <mailavj> help please, how to disable desktop efffects from shell... in fiesty fawn
[07:57] <Dreamless> Oh..
[07:57] <ribando> can someone tell me if they got internet explorer 6.0 to work under wine?because I could only get IE 5.5 to work fine
[07:57] <ribando> can someone tell me if they got internet explorer 6.0 to work under wine?because I could only get IE 5.5 to work fine, but whithout activex control.
[07:58] <rimose> mailavj, the quick and dirty way would be to uninstall compiz
[07:58] <ublender> When I look in my home folder, everything that should be hidden (.folder) is hidden correctly, but when I look in a open or save file window, nothing is hidden, so I get a list of 100 or so folders, how do I make files hidden in the open/save window?
[07:58] <mailavj> rimose , will that restore my original non-3D desktop
[07:58] <nalioth> Dreamless: no netsplit
[07:58] <mike340> in the ubuntu install for grub it says it will install to (hd0) what do i put to make it install to usb drive instead?
[07:58] <rimose> ublender, right click and deselect "show hidden files"
[07:58] <DShepherd> ublender, i think if you right click there's some option to hide it..
[07:58] <ublender> rimose, thanks
[07:59] <Myrtti> right click
[07:59] <NET||abuse> oh boy,k, i have to install a 32bit firefox to use flashplugin,, arrgg..
[07:59] <ublender> never thought of right clicking, lol
[07:59] <rimose> mailavj, do you know if you're using XGL or a regular session?
[07:59] <NET||abuse> this amd64 workaround stuff sucks
[07:59] <lockd> NET||abuse: that's the problem with binary only
[07:59] <mailavj> rimose, how can i find that
[08:00] <rimose> mailavj, do you use a login menu (do you have to enter a username and password to log in)?
[08:00] <slestak> mailavj: i think metacity --replace might do what you need.  I do that before i play games in cedega to temp disable compiz
[08:00] <herbaliser> hi at the login screen i get wrong keyboard layout in gnome all is ok how do i change this?
[08:00] <mailavj> yes
[08:00] <needhelp> Hi, can someone guide me setting up wireless network with a D-Link DIR-635 router and a Ubuntu 704 client with a wireless network card ?
[08:00] <fruitbatJim>  will 'chmod -R 777 ~' will give full rights on every file and directory under my home?
[08:00] <mailavj> rimose , i do use graphical login
[08:00] <rimose> Then when you login press F10, and select "GNOME session".
[08:01] <stefg> !wifi
[08:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:01] <variant> felixhummel_: yes, to everyone. it is an exceptionally bad idea
[08:01] <variant> fruitbatJim: yes, to everyone. it is an exceptionally bad idea
[08:02] <rimose> Sorry: F10 -> Select session -> GNOME session
[08:02] <variant> fruitbatJim: it may stop you from being able to perform certain actions and may cause login problems too
[08:02] <variant> fruitbatJim: will also be a pain in the neck to reverse. i would really not do it if i were you
[08:02] <jrib> fruitbatJim: I agree with variant , it's a terrible idea
[08:02] <ikemann> hello all
[08:02] <fruitbatJim> I was more curious about the '-R' flag, the 777 was just an example :)
[08:03] <fruitbatJim> thanks though
[08:03] <OraZen> hello everybody :)
[08:03] <variant> fruitbatJim: -R means it will descend into directorys and change the permissions of subfiles and subdirs too as far as it can
[08:03] <mike340> how do i lista ll disks in my computer in the format (hd0) (hd1) etc
[08:03] <stefg> !permissions
[08:03] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[08:03] <mailavj> rimose , i use a login thru GDM
[08:03] <variant> mailavj: fdisk -l
[08:04] <andyp_> what does the update -modules common is depricated afer installing alsa?
[08:04] <RiCCo69> hey i want to d-load a game but it doesn't have a linux vs. can I still play it or do i need an addon?
[08:04] <rimose> RiCCo69, you probably can't play it on Linux.
[08:04] <stefg> !games
[08:04] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[08:04] <mike340> fdisk -l doesnt tell me if its hd0 or hd1 or hd2 etc
[08:04] <mailavj> variant , i did fdisk -l
[08:04] <variant> rimose: maybe in wine you can run it
[08:04] <mailavj> and i have its output
[08:05] <rimose> variant, results are usually poor.
[08:05] <lockd> RiCCo69: check winehq for compatibility
[08:05] <variant> mailavj: are you looking for the grub equivilent of /dev/hda1 or something simmilar?
[08:05] <RiCCo69> winehq allright what's the web address?
[08:05] <ikemann> anyone have any experience with vmware workstation 6.0?
[08:05] <variant> RiCCo69: in the firefox url bar type "wine appdb programname"
[08:05] <ConfidentiaL> /reconnect
[08:05] <mailavj> variant , my question is how to disable 3D desktop effects from shell ,
[08:06] <ribando> !wine
[08:06] <variant> RiCCo69: where programname is the name of the windows program you want to run
[08:06] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:06] <RiCCo69> thanx
[08:06] <variant> mailavj: what does that have to do with your hard disks?
[08:06] <mailavj> variant, nothing related to my hard disks
[08:07] <variant> mailavj: killall beryl-manager or killall compiz at a guess..
[08:07] <ribando> how do I uninstall Internet Explorer from wine?
[08:07] <variant> ribando: run the uninstaller or rm it
[08:08] <mailavj> variant , how to restore my original desktop ( without 3D) after killall compiz
[08:08] <ikemann> how do i sync my palm on windows xp guest via vmware?
[08:08] <variant> mailavj: it should come back, otherwise just run "nautilus"
[08:08] <variant> mailavj: alt + f2 should still work even without the window manager running
[08:09] <mailavj> variant will nautilus work , if i have shell only
[08:09] <variant> mailavj: if you killall compiz it won't log you out. the window borders will just dissapear (and nautilus *should* take over
[08:09] <joe__> hello, i was wondering if someone might be able to help me w/ ubuntu's network config tool
[08:10] <mailavj> oh ok ok thanks variant
[08:10] <variant> mailavj: np, let me know if you have any problems
[08:10] <CruX> hi all, is wim compiled with ctags/cscope support ?
[08:10] <mailavj> variant one more issue is there
[08:10] <mailavj> during boot up , diskcheck is happening and it says FSINFO is not there.. but system is coming up
[08:11] <frandavid100> hiya
[08:11] <Bender1337> yo
[08:12] <variant> mailavj: sorry, i don't know about that one to be honest!
[08:12] <frandavid100> can someone who uses compiz tell me what window type dragged items are?
[08:12] <kost_> how can i paste someones name ?
[08:12] <kost_> in the IRC?
[08:12] <mailavj> thats ok variant, ne body help
[08:12] <variant> kost_: tyep the firsl letter or few letters and press tab
[08:12] <joe__> anyone will to help me with my prob feel free to msg me, all i want to figure out how to do is autoconnect to the internet when i start up instead of clicking it to connect each time
[08:12] <kost_> variant oh kay nice ;)
[08:12] <Bender1337> ctrl c and v
[08:12] <variant> kost_: you may have to press it more than once to get the right name, depending on your irc client
[08:13] <favoritefood0> hey
[08:13] <variant> Bender1337: thats not particularly funny
[08:13] <kost_> variant: ok thanks  I see
[08:13] <favoritefood0> I'm having a problem with my folders..., can I  get some help?
[08:13] <ribando> variant i can't even see the uninstaller,but i'd be more than happy to keep it if i just could get activeX control to work on it
[08:13] <ikemann> how do i sync my palm on windows xp guest via vmware?
[08:13] <neverblue2> !ask | favoritefood0,
[08:13] <ubotu> favoritefood0,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:13] <usuario> oola agregarme
[08:13] <usuario> morena_000
[08:13] <yoshibond> hi everyone! I have a ASUS M2NPV-VM motherboard with onboard GeForce 6150 and component video out - does anyone know waht I need to do to make my display output to my TV via component video? I have tried playing around wtih drivers and my xorg.conf with no sucess /// i have also had no sucess installing the driver from the .run file driver on the ASUS website
[08:13] <yoshibond> any help would be awesome!
[08:13] <favoritefood0> Eh.
[08:13] <favoritefood0> Thanks.
[08:13] <Bender1337> variant: it does answer your question
[08:13] <variant> ribando: how did you install it exactly? there is a very nice script that generally does it correctly (ie4lin i think its called)
[08:14] <neverblue2> ikemann, did you install the vmware addons?
[08:14] <variant> Bender1337: i didn't ask one
[08:14] <favoritefood0> Anyways what my problem is that I cannot modify anything.
[08:14] <favoritefood0> I installed it, made an account, and logged on.
[08:14] <ikemann> neverblue2: i'm not sure, i installed vmware tools on the guest machine
[08:14] <favoritefood0> Now what happens is even on a new account (with admin abilities) I cannot modify folders to allow me to write files.
[08:14] <Bender1337> how do u pm someone
[08:14] <neverblue2> ikemann, you should probably find out
[08:14] <variant> Bender1337: /query username
[08:14] <gorrz> i know this doesnt pertain much to ubuntu but i forgot the admin password to my wireless modem and now i cant change settings.. any way to reset it ?
[08:14] <neverblue2> Bender1337, /msg username message
[08:15] <variant> Bender1337: you need to be registered with nickserv to msg other users (unless they have disabled that themselves)
[08:15] <neverblue2> gorrz, consult your modem's manual
[08:15] <gorrz> neverblue2, gotcha
[08:15] <variant> gorrz: there should be a hardware reset button on it
[08:15] <desktop> gorz, isn't there a tiny rest-button on your modem ?
[08:15] <variant> gorrz: for pressing with a pen tip
[08:15] <desktop> rest - reset
[08:16] <variant> desktop: type go and press the tab key (in irc)
[08:16] <Webspot> Hi. I'm having a problem with klogd. From top, I can see that it's using 100% of my cpu constantly. Where should I look for the problem?
[08:16] <variant> Webspot: thats not very good
[08:16] <ribando> variant yeah, i used that to install it...i just dont know how to remove it
[08:16] <Webspot> variant: Indeed.
[08:16] <stefg> Webspot: check that /var/log is writable
[08:17] <yoshibond> hi everyone! I have a ASUS M2NPV-VM motherboard with onboard GeForce 6150 and component video out - does anyone know waht I need to do to make my display output to my TV via component video? I have tried playing around wtih drivers and my xorg.conf with no sucess /// i have also had no sucess installing the driver from the .run file driver on the ASUS website
[08:17] <yoshibond> does anyone know how to configure my xorg.conf to output to the TV?
[08:17] <razorednight> Below my pcs power button is a lil button, to be pressed with pen or similar, labelled with triangle-inside-a-circle... what will happen if i press it??  :D
[08:17] <favoritefood0> reset
[08:17] <neverblue2> yoshibond, #ubuntu-effects
[08:18] <Webspot> stefg: Who should be able to write to it? root can
[08:18] <razorednight> favefood, that reset comment for me?
[08:18] <mattgyver83> has anybody here been able to make vnc connections from Windows to Linux?
[08:19] <neverblue2> yes
[08:19] <mattgyver83> neverblue, what app do you use?
[08:19] <stefg> Webspot: so that's fine. just to rule out a corrupt /var fs or running out of space
[08:19] <favoritefood0> I go into "Computer" and right click on one of my hard drives and I go to rename or change permissions, and it says "The Permissions could not be changed. Sorry, couldn't change the permissions of 'GB Volume."
[08:19] <favoritefood0> I want to be able to write to all my hard drives.
[08:20] <stefg> !permissions
[08:20] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[08:20] <sgronblo> I can't seem to play mp3s in rhythmbox after installing libxine1-ffmpeg
[08:20] <mattgyver83> I can make connections from Windows to Windows, and Linux to windows... but when i try to go from windows to linux i just get a terminal type screen
[08:20] <stefg> !codecs
[08:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <favoritefood0> Can I not modify because it is using the NTFS file system instead of FAT?
[08:21] <stefg> !ntfs
[08:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:21] <variant> mattgyver83: what kind of connection? samba?
[08:21] <stefg> !ntfs-3g
[08:21] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:21] <variant> mattgyver83: or ssh/telnet
[08:21] <mattgyver83> Um, honestly i dont know
[08:21] <Bakefy> is there an IE 6 for linux?
[08:21] <mattgyver83> its not ssh or telnet
[08:21] <variant> mattgyver83: ok, so probably samba then. you mean to view files like they were local to the machine?
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> !fishing > stefg
[08:22] <mattgyver83> no, i want to remotely access my desktops
[08:22] <variant> Bakefy: no, but you can install ms ie6 with the ie4lin wine script
[08:22] <variant> mattgyver83: ahha
[08:22] <variant> mattgyver83: you are probably using vnc then
[08:22] <mattgyver83> yeah i am
[08:22] <mattgyver83> I use samba to view the netwokr (which i have problems with that at the moment too)
[08:22] <Bakefy> variant, wonderful!
[08:23] <ggeller> mattgyver83: I've had good luck with nx, see nomachine.com.
[08:23] <variant> mattgyver83: you should make sure that the programs you are using are all compatible, also, make sure compiz/beryl is not running on the linux box as they are generally not compatible with vnc
[08:23] <mattgyver83> Okay.
[08:23] <mattgyver83> The progams i am using are cross-platform
[08:23] <mattgyver83> Tightvnc
[08:23] <variant> mattgyver83: you can also try ms terminal services, that is quite efficient and there is free software support for it in ubuntu although the server is not there to be set up by default afaik
[08:24] <variant> mattgyver83: tightvnc is good, are the port settings on the server and clients all the same?
[08:24] <Bender1337> is ultraVNC just for windows
[08:24] <mattgyver83> Yeah
[08:24] <mattgyver83> wait no
[08:24] <variant> mattgyver83: and also the server(s) are set to accept incoming connections
[08:24] <mattgyver83> they are each specific, and i setupport forwards
[08:24] <sambiase> hi...whats the difference between ubuntu feisty and kubuntu feisty?
[08:25] <cartman_> i want to update my grub-menu via grub-install. but this command need a device. is there an easy way to determine where my old grub-menu is atm?
[08:25] <variant> mattgyver83: maybe you set it wrongly on one of them?
[08:25] <mattgyver83> However, i cant seem to specify the ports for linux with the tightvnc server
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> one has gnome, the other kde
[08:25] <jetscreamer> nothing
[08:25] <sambiase> thanks :)
[08:25] <variant> mattgyver83: you should be able to, take a look at the command line options
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> cartman_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:25] <mattgyver83> i did, and i read up on it, but its all kinda vague
[08:25] <favoritefood0> my terminal is messing up
[08:25] <variant> mattgyver83: you are using xvnc yes?
[08:25] <mattgyver83> No, TSClient
[08:26] <mattgyver83> to connect from ubuntu to windows
[08:26] <favoritefood0> I type in the command sudo bash diskmounter
[08:26] <favoritefood0> and it messes up my termina
[08:26] <favoritefood0> terminal*
[08:26] <Eric> could anyone suggest a good dock
[08:26] <favoritefood0> I can't type anymore into it.
[08:26] <mattgyver83> and tightvncviewer from windows
[08:26] <variant> mattgyver83: which is it that wont connect?
[08:26] <pike_> Eric: good doc?
[08:26] <mattgyver83> Well... let me rephrase this
[08:26] <cartman_> fyrestrtr: sorry, i forgot to say: where is my grub "installed" atm. i dont know the hd name
[08:26] <pike_> er dock?
[08:27] <mattgyver83> The issue is from windows to linux
[08:27] <mattgyver83> however, its not a connection issue
[08:27] <mattgyver83> Its a matter of when i make a connection, i will either get a terminal session, or I will get a screen cap of ..... omg.
[08:27] <variant> mattgyver83: yes, i gatherd that. best to get rid of all the possibilities though
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> cartman_: how many hard disks do you have?
[08:27] <mattgyver83> It might have been from beryl
[08:27] <Eric> pike: like an OSX program dock.  Like AWN
[08:27] <variant> mattgyver83: i did say, disable beryl and compiz :)
[08:27] <cartman_> fyrestrtr: 4 disks
[08:27] <mattgyver83> yeah :)
[08:27] <variant> s/and/or
[08:28] <mattgyver83> It does connect, but the screen never refreshes
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> cartman_: is grub the only boot manager installed?
[08:28] <mattgyver83> which thats probably why
[08:28] <variant> mattgyver83: :) glad you fixed it
[08:28] <cartman_> fyrestrtr: yes, the only bootmanager.
[08:28] <mattgyver83> Well, i havent yet... but i think thats it
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> cartman_: then it is on the first boot disk.
[08:28] <bannerman> While installing ubuntu on my software raid I get "grub-installer failed (hd0)"
[08:28] <bannerman> help!
[08:29] <cartman_> fyrestrtr: u mean the disk that is set as "boot disk" in BIOS?
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> cartman_: yes.
[08:30] <levander> mail.yahoo.com in Firefox seriously just froze up my machine for like 10 minutes.  Does that happen to everyone when they go to that site?
[08:31] <Bender1337> nope
[08:31] <levander> I'm very surprised Yahoo has stuff on their site that crashes Linux Firefox.  It just seems so irresponsible of them for a major Web company.
[08:31] <bannerman> levander: no, I use it constantly and do not have that problem.
[08:31] <levander> bannerman: Have you been today?
[08:31] <bannerman> levander: not on linux, today.
[08:31] <Bender1337> ill go
[08:31] <levander> bannerman: They have some popup windows about being able to chat inside Yahoo Mail now.
[08:31] <levander> Maybe that was what did it.
[08:32] <bannerman> levander: ah, I still use the classic interface.
[08:32] <NET||abuse> how can i hard set the ip of my website in resolv.conf or something?
[08:32] <levander> bannerman: Yeah, it was like I was "auto-switched" to the new interface.
[08:32] <NET||abuse> my bloody isp wont report the dns entry for my domain on it's primary dns, but it does on the secondary
[08:32] <bannerman> levander: my condolences.
[08:32] <bannerman> levander: it's horrid.
[08:32] <IdleOne> levander, you may want to report this to #ubuntu-mozillateam bug report
[08:32] <favoritefood0> Evil terminal.
[08:32] <levander> NET||abuse: /etc/hosts
[08:33] <levander> IdleOne: I'd really blame Yahoo more for not testing.
[08:33] <ROnewbie> my programs (skype, yahoo messenger, gmail notifier, battery indicator) no longer show up in the right side of the taskbar when active. How can I fix that ?
[08:33] <levander> IdleOne: But, I guess it'd be a good test case for the Firefox programmers.
[08:34] <IdleOne> levander, unfortunately Linux cannot expect  the world to build around so linux must build around the world
[08:34] <bullgard4> /proc/acpi/embedded_controller/EC0/info lists "gpe:0x17". Does 'gpe' here stand for 'GPE Palmtop Environment'?
[08:34] <levander> IdleOne: I'd see that for most of the population. Yahoo is different.
[08:34] <Bender1337> what channel is unbuntu offtopic
[08:34] <ompaul> Bender1337, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:34] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:34] <IdleOne> hello ompaul
[08:35] <ompaul> IdleOne, hi
[08:35] <ROnewbie> anyone ? how can i make my active programs show shortcuts in the taskbar when active ?
[08:35] <favoritefood0> Whenever I type in terminal, the script (At the beginning, input automatically is admin@cody:~#$), sudo bash diskmounter, my Terminal will not accept anymore input, and to get to terminal again, I have to close then restart the program.
[08:36] <bullgard4> My Ubuntu 7.04 includes 1794 files having 'kconfig' in its name. Which one is the most important?
[08:37] <amengo> dulce
[08:38] <IdleOne> !info alltray | ROnewbie
[08:38] <ubotu> ronewbie: alltray: Dock any program into the system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.69-1 (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 224 kB
[08:38] <succubus_> Hi. Trying to install j2ee the installing script gets stuck when it says "Deleting temporary files". It is typical?
[08:39] <erUSUL> !java | succubus_
[08:39] <ubotu> succubus_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> bullgard4: no
[08:39] <succubus_> ubotu, jdk and jre are installed on my system.
[08:39] <Ninjay> anyone get the 8800GTX drivers to work in ubuntu?
[08:40] <LiorKamer> pme for fest mirorr to ubuntu
[08:41] <jiphex> Anyone know if tribe 4 will be released on time tomorrow?
[08:41] <IdleOne> jiphex, #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <jiphex> thanks
[08:41] <IdleOne> alltray is a nice little application
[08:42] <IdleOne> :)
[08:42] <Ninjay> anyone able to get 8800GTX video drivers to work
[08:42] <IdleOne> !ati
[08:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:43] <favoritefood0> !terminal
[08:43] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:44] <Mishu> Hey, i have 11 GB partition for ubuntu i downloaded some packagaes and now i have only 1% left can some one tell me how can i free space?
[08:44] <caner> could someone please tell me why this password window keep popping although i enter the pass for the rar file i am trying to extrack correctly??
[08:44] <IdleOne> Mishu, you downloaded a little over 10Gigs of packages?
[08:44] <erUSUL> Mishu: try 'sudo apt-get [auto] clean'
[08:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Mishu: Must have downloaded more than a few...   var/apt/cache/archives should have the downloads
[08:44] <Mishu> IdleOne, I don't think i downloaded that much...!
[08:45] <marC-> Where do you change the icon theme in gnome?
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Mishu: Copy them to a dvd or cd so you wont have to dl them again.
[08:45] <Mishu> Okay!
[08:45] <favoritefood0> I have a problem with my gnome terminal. I run the terminal and execute the script "sudo bash diskmount" After I do that I get a new line saying ONLY "Password:" and I cannot complete the field to finish running the script, It also makes it respond very slowly, and the only way to run scripts again is to open a new terminal.
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> marC-: drag a new theme and drop it onto the themem manager
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> marC-: gnome-look.org
[08:45] <marC-> Jacek_Sparrow: where is the theme manager?
[08:46] <Jack_Sparrow> system pref theme
[08:46] <browndog> I'm running Feisty and need a program that will import digital certificates from my smart card, in order to be able to check my company email over the web.  Does anyone know where I can find something like this?
[08:46] <marC-> Jack_Sparrow: and drag a ICON theme in there? like icons ?
[08:46] <caner> what is the problem with ubuntu for extractin multipart rar files which are password protected
[08:46] <IdleOne> erUSUL, what does apt-get autoclean do exactly?
[08:47] <jrib> caner: no problem, works fine after installing "unrar"
[08:47] <erUSUL> IdleOne: clean the debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ...
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> IdleOne: It will delete the archives..
[08:47] <IdleOne> erUSUL, ok so only deletes the .debs and not the actual installed packages?
[08:48] <fsckr> what cmd do I use to see what version of java i have?
[08:48] <Jack_Sparrow> correct
[08:48] <erUSUL> IdleOne: right
[08:48] <IdleOne> erUSUL, just scared myself lmao
[08:48] <erUSUL> fsckr: java --version ?
[08:48] <caner> jrib ive unrar installed but after extraction finished the password windows pops again and the extracted file is deleted. when i enter the pass again it starts extracting again.
[08:48] <Alloosh> hi all
[08:48] <IdleOne> ty erUSUL and Jack_Sparrow
[08:48] <Alloosh> how can i share files and folders with windows using direct crossed cable
[08:48] <Alloosh> ?
[08:48] <fsckr> erUSUL, i tried that
[08:48] <browndog> I'm running Feisty and need a program that will import digital certificates from my smart card, in order to be able to check my company email over the web.  Does anyone know where I can find something like this?
[08:49] <fsckr> maybe I dont even have java install yet
[08:49] <Jack_Sparrow> browndog: You will need to see if your smart card hardware is supported
[08:49] <IdleOne> fsckr, see !java
[08:49] <erUSUL> !java | fsckr
[08:49] <ubotu> fsckr: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:50] <Alloosh> helo
[08:50] <Alloosh> any body know and/or willing to help me solve file sharing problem
[08:50] <IdleOne> Alloosh, install samba
[08:50] <sharp12> installed ubuntu server v. 6.06LTS how do i get into the GUI?
[08:50] <fsckr> ty IdleOne and erUSUL
[08:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Alloosh: Samba
[08:50] <cabroni> a program to convert FLV to AVI n' viseversa?
[08:51] <Alloosh> I installed samba a million times today
[08:51] <IdleOne> sharp12, gnome or kde?
[08:51] <erUSUL> sharp12: no GUI in the server version
[08:51] <yoshibond> cAN someone please help! I cant get this to work and it is getting verry frustrating after weeks! I have the Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard with onboard Geforce 6150! Has anyone go this to work with the component video out!!!! Im using ubuntu feisty, PLEASE !!!
[08:51] <browndog> Thanks Jack...I'm working on seeing if it's supported, but if it is I still need to import my certificates into either netscape or firefox.  Under Windows this is done with Active Card Gold 3.0...I need something comparable for linux.
[08:51] <erUSUL> cabroni: ffmpeg
[08:51] <Alloosh> samba is not working for me
[08:51] <Alloosh> any other solution
[08:51] <Alloosh> anything at all
[08:51] <IdleOne> sharp12, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ( gnome ) or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ( kde )
[08:51] <yoshibond> i have looked everywhere and tried everything and cant get anything to work!
[08:52] <Jack_Sparrow> browndog: yOU CANT DO MUCH UNTIL YOU KNOW ABOUT THE HARDWARE AND WORK FROM THERE
[08:52] <erUSUL> Alloosh: there are other protocols nfs, ftp, web server (http)....
[08:52] <sharp12> what's the differance between gnome and kde?
[08:52] <Alloosh> not working also
[08:53] <IdleOne> sharp12, gnome is the default ubuntu theme and kde is the Kubuntu theme. ( IMO looks and feels more like windows )
[08:53] <Jack_Sparrow> sharp12: THEY ARE BOTH WINDOW MANAGERS, YOU CAN INSTALL BOTH AND PICK WHICH YOU WANT AT THE LOGIN SCREEN..
[08:53] <yoshibond> cAN someone please help! I cant get this to work and it is getting verry frustrating after weeks! I have the Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard with onboard Geforce 6150! Has anyone go this to work with the component video out!!!! Im using ubuntu feisty, PLEASE !!!
[08:53] <erUSUL> !caps | Jack_Sparrow
[08:53] <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:53] <IdleOne> !patience | yoshibond
[08:53] <ubotu> yoshibond: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:53] <Jack_Sparrow> I gotta go ... play nice...
[08:53] <IdleOne> later Jack_Sparrow
[08:53] <browndog> Ok, lets say for the sake of argument its supported...do you know of a program.
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL: Didnt mean to use caps...  Fat fingers today
[08:54] <IdleOne> sharp12, if it matters any I prefer ubuntu-desktop ( gnome )
[08:54] <sharp12> thanks!!! I'll install both!!
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL: How can I disable caps lock....?  One key I never use...
[08:56] <gpled> how can i restart xwindow from command line?
[08:56] <charles> 254325687654732567855555555555598597856743248777855877878878774557754788775757878877/78578787/8845*///
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> reboot
[08:56] <charles> 254325687654732567855555555555598597856743248777855877878878774557754788775757878877/78578787/8845*///
[08:56] <charles> ..+
[08:56] <charles> .
[08:56] <gpled> Jack_Sparrow: is that how you would do it?
[08:56] <the> how do I install kde ? and isen't that going to give problems whit gnome ?
[08:57] <kingKonqueror> the: nope, the two can happily coexist
[08:57] <Jack_Sparrow> gpled: I am not much of a cli guy.. but I think that is it.
[08:57] <IdleOne> gpled, ctrl+alt+backspace will do it also
[08:57] <the> thx
[08:57] <kingKonqueror> to install it, type "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:57] <kingKonqueror> or find kubuntu-desktop in synaptic or a similar package manager
[08:57] <needhelp> Hi, someone needs to help me with connecting to the wireless router. Here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32958/
[08:57] <kingKonqueror> aptitude can of course be apt-get if you'd like
[08:58] <sharp12> can I remote from a windows box to gnome or kde?
[08:58] <bannerman> Does Ubuntu support booting from software raid?
[08:58] <bannerman> using 7.04
[08:58] <IdleOne> sharp12, of course
[08:58] <level1> bannerman: I'm trying the same thing
[08:58] <kingKonqueror> sharp12: yes, i'd recommend something like NXclient and NXserver
[08:58] <bannerman> level1: my condolences.
[08:58] <level1> bannerman: only on raid 1 and 0
[08:58] <IdleOne> !freenx | sharp12
[08:58] <ubotu> sharp12: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[08:58] <kingKonqueror> they are free for noncommercial usage
[08:58] <bannerman> level1: thank you, you are my favorite expert
[08:58] <level1> bannerman: yeah, its hard, but its doable
[08:58] <Squee> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a roomates laptop, and it starts booting the live cd then just drops to a shell... anybody have any ideas on what I can try?
[08:59] <kingKonqueror> hm does he have an ATI graphics card?
[08:59] <gpled> what file has the config for watching for ctrl+alt+backspace?
[08:59] <level1> bannerman: you best bet is to put /boot on a seperate partition.  Raid it if you want to, raid 1 is a good choice because then its still bootable if it breaks
[08:59] <gpled> that getty?
[08:59] <slrazer> hall nn svensk?
[08:59] <level1> bannerman: the put / on maybe raid 1 or raid 0+1, then /home on whatever you want.  Don't raid swap
[08:59] <kingKonqueror> jag minns fortfarande lite
[08:59] <kingKonqueror> men jag har inte bott dar i lange
[09:00] <level1> !raid > bannerman
[09:00] <disasm> I just replaced tetex with texlive, now get errors when running dvips could not find figure file: ../../somefile.ps  -  anyone come across this problem with texlive? It appears it can't seem to find any figure files included in directories higher in the tree.
[09:00] <bullgard4> I have got an error message: "The resume partition is not set up. Probably you need to add a 'resume=...' option to your kernel command line and reboot." Where can I find the 'kernel command line'?
[09:00] <soundray> !se | slrazer, kingKonqueror
[09:00] <kingKonqueror> och jag har inte en svensk keyboard ;)
[09:00] <ubotu> slrazer, kingKonqueror: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[09:00] <kingKonqueror> sorry
[09:00] <swmiller6> THe ati version from the resricted manager is 8.34.8 while the latest version from ati is 8.39.4, is there any benefit to upgrading to the current ati version or would I be better off waiting for it to show up in the repos?
[09:01] <slrazer> :) jag ska instalera server edition och undrar... jag ska installera p 2 burkar... en som skall vara hemsida/webmail/teamspeak och den andra ska vara en counter-strike server... vad ska jag kra? dns eller lamp  va e skillanden?
[09:01] <IdleOne> swmiller6, unless you need to upgrade to the latest version I wouldnt
[09:01] <IdleOne> swmiller6, dont fix what aint broke
[09:01] <anderson_> como instalar o modem?
[09:02] <Lunis> how do you keep XFCE and Gnome from autostarting Media Player when I plug in my PSP?
[09:02] <IdleOne> !es | anderson_
[09:02] <ubotu> anderson_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:02] <cabroni> anybody know a program that works likely iTunes?
[09:02] <ravigehlot> How do I reload the USB controller?
[09:02] <ravigehlot> without rebooting
[09:02] <Squee> cabrioleur, songbird
[09:02] <Squee> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a roomates laptop, and it starts booting the live cd then just drops to a shell... anybody have any ideas on what I can try?
[09:02] <kingKonqueror> squee: does he have an ati graphics card?
[09:02] <swmiller6>  IdleOne: Ati drivers are always broken I was only wondering if the new ones would improve anything
[09:02] <IdleOne> cabroni, songbird according to Squee
[09:02] <Squee> kingKonqueror, nope, nvidia
[09:02] <IdleOne> swmiller6, wouldnt know
[09:03] <kitche> cabroni: maybe songbird amarok or banshee, banshee works with the itunes store
[09:03] <kingKonqueror> sorry, not the same issue i had then
[09:03] <slrazer> sg du vad jag skrev?
[09:03] <needhelp> Hi, can  someone please help me with connecting to the wireless router??  Here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32958/
[09:03] <phoenixz> I have a website with images in sub directories which are shown with apache indexing..  I want to download these images using wget but all it does is save index.html for each dir, and not the files.. I use wget -np -k -nc -t5 -r -l3 http://site.com:8081/img/ but could anybody tell me how I should use wget for this?
[09:03] <IdleOne> !english | slrazer
[09:03] <ubotu> slrazer: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:03] <ravigehlot> How do I reload the USB controller without rebooting?
[09:03] <spiderworm> my ubuntu machine is now mounting the root partition read-only... anyone able to help with this sort of problem?
[09:04] <kitche> phoenixz: with wget -r
[09:04] <kitche> phoenixz: or the website-mirror feature
[09:04] <renIO> \quit
[09:04] <phoenixz> kitche, I am using -r...  wget -np -k -nc -t5 -r -l3 http://site.com:8081/img/
[09:04] <SpComb> I'm having trouble setting up TwinView on my machine, I have a nVidia 7800 GT with a DVI VX924 and a VGA VA902 display. I've tried both manual twiddling of xorg.conf and the nvidia-settings GUI. GPU: http://zapotekii.paivola.fi/~terom/stuff/nvidia-1.png , Displays: http://zapotekii.paivola.fi/~terom/stuff/nvidia-2.png , Screen 0: http://zapotekii.paivola.fi/~terom/stuff/nvidia-3.png
[09:05] <kitche> phoenixz: look at your command compared to mine just wget -r
[09:05] <SpComb> in case all those urls didn't fit in, they're http://zapotekii.paivola.fi/~terom/stuff/nvidia-{1,2,3}.png
[09:05] <effie_jayx> I am experiencig slow nautilus load at startup
[09:05] <level1> does anyone know any tv tuner cards that are know to play well in linux?  Is there a way to tell before I buy them?
[09:05] <effie_jayx> has anyone experiences anything like that?
[09:05] <SpComb> the way it currently works is that the right monitor (VA902) is displaying a 2560x1024 desktop (mouse on edge scrolls around), and the VX924 is No-Signal
[09:06] <mishu> Hey, I have checked my /var/apt/cache directory it just 122 MB
[09:06] <Squee> level1, check out hauppauge, i use them and they are awesome, great linux support
[09:06] <mishu> Is there some way i can check which is taking up the space?
[09:06] <spiderworm> level1: i second what Squee said
[09:06] <gordonjcp> level1: these days, SAA7134
[09:06] <mishu> i mean which file/folder
[09:06] <slrazer> ok.. im going to install ubuntu server on 2 computers... one im going to use hompage(mysql, apache, php, ftp)/webemail/teamspeak server and the ather im going to use as an counter-strike server... shod i use dns or lamp server???? whats the difrence betwen lamp and dns?
[09:06] <Squee> mishu, baobab
[09:06] <Squee> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a roomates laptop, and it starts booting the live cd then just drops to a shell... anybody have any ideas on what I can try?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> level1: I use SAA7134s to capture from high-end svideo gear and it looks pretty good
[09:06] <phoenixz> kitche, same result...
[09:07] <kingKonqueror> lamp = linux apache php/perl mysql - probably what you want for homepages etc
[09:07] <cyber_cop> hi channel
[09:07] <kitche> phoenixz: hmm that should download all the files in the directory
[09:07] <kingKonqueror> DNS server is for resolving website addresses - useful but not what you want
[09:07] <cyber_cop> I'm Turkish ubuntu user
[09:07] <phoenixz> kitche, its only creating the index.html files, but not downloading the files
[09:07] <pete83> level1: I know the website "Phoronix" has tons of reviews of how video cards work in linux
[09:07] <level1> Squee: it seems like hauppauge is replacing some of its cards with newer cards that don't work as well
[09:07] <soundray> mishu: 'sudo du / | sort -n >/tmp/dusortn ; tail /tmp/dusortn'
[09:07] <level1> gordonjcp: is that a card or a chipset?
[09:07] <gordonjcp> it's a chipset
[09:07] <DShepherd> SpComb, hey
[09:07] <SpComb> it lists both displays just fine under the GPU, and the info for X Screen 0 also lists both Displays. But the Layout only shows one display, and the VX924 is just physically not showing anything
[09:07] <level1> gordonjcp: is there a way to know a card's chipset before buying it?
[09:07] <slrazer> shod i use dns on the counter-strike server or lamp on both?
[09:07] <cyber_cop> I'm search color code program
[09:07] <gordonjcp> level1: knackered hell produce el-cheapo cards with that chip on them
[09:08] <Squee> level1, I haven't heard of that, I have a pvr-500, the quality isn't perfect, but it works very well
[09:08] <needhelp> Why doesnt D-Link RID-635 wireless router work with Ubuntu 704 ?
[09:08] <gordonjcp> level1: look around and see what there is
[09:08] <DShepherd> SpComb, I am not sure what you are doing wrong.. or right :-) .. but i am willing to help you through the steps
[09:08] <soundray> level1: it's hard to tell before you buy unfortunately. Dibcom chipsets are well supported. Buy from someone who will give you a no-quibbles exchange.
[09:08] <kitche> needhelp: routers are OS independent so a router will work
[09:08] <cyber_cop> color code program please
[09:08] <gordonjcp> level1: the chipset is nice and what's even better is that they tend to be on 20-quid-in-PC-World cards
[09:08] <SpComb> AHA! I have discovered something... changing the Position to something else in the X Server Display Configuration reveals that the two displays were just on top of eachother on there >_>
[09:08] <pete83> needhelp: maybe it's the wireless card in your machine, and not the router?
[09:09] <DShepherd> SpComb, hehe.. yeah that's right
[09:09] <cyber_cop> help please
[09:09] <mishu> If i have my window drive mounted on /mnt/something --- Are they aslo counted as part of my / space/
[09:09] <cyber_cop> color code program
[09:09] <DShepherd> SpComb, so you kool now?
[09:09] <slrazer> shod i use lamp or dns on a gaming server?
[09:09] <cabroni> I have trying the last days to search a way to conect mi pc to the simple iPod Shuffle, does anybody know a program that wokrs as it?
[09:09] <kitche> mishu: no it's counted as /mnt/something
[09:09] <SpComb> there, it works now, the GUI was just confusing. Someone should make a note of that
[09:09] <stuart-> i wanna tweak ubuntu a little and disable some stuff, what is RAID software? i wanna nkow if i'll be needing it
[09:09] <needhelp> kitche, pate83 : so what am I doing wrong? I have installed the wireless card, set up WEP, channel and ssid. Still it wont connect
[09:09] <DShepherd> SpComb, if you want the monitors to show the same thing just change the position to clone..
[09:09] <level1> I really need a card that uses the pci express x1 or some other interface... no pci slots left on my mb
[09:09] <kingKonqueror> slrazer: you don't really need either if it is just going to run counterstrike or something
[09:09] <kaukx> lobqt.so.2
[09:09] <mishu> kitche: So it means it will not have any affect on my root drive
[09:09] <swmiller6> !lamp
[09:09] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:09] <kitche> mishu: correct
[09:10] <stuart-> !raid
[09:10] <soundray> mishu: if you use the du command I suggested above, it will be. To stay within your root filesystem, use du -x /
[09:10] <kaukx> !libqt.so.2
[09:10] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:10] <SpComb> the second display ways positioned at 0,0, and the first one was inactive. I just had to set the second display to right-of, and then I was able to see the first one and set it to active
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libqt.so.2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <DShepherd> SpComb, glad you got that working. The interface for the GUI could be simpler. I agree. It confused the heaven out of me too
[09:10] <kaukx> libqt.so.2
[09:10] <mishu> Any idea which folders can be taking too much of space?
[09:10] <mishu> Do i need to run some check?
[09:10] <anathema> hi guys, is there a way to get low latency in ubuntu
[09:10] <anathema> for audio recording
[09:10] <level1> mishu: konqueror has a nice feature for that
[09:10] <mishu> as if linux is saying correct or something is damaged
[09:10] <slrazer> ok well i hawe to choose lamp or dns wen i install
[09:11] <kingKonqueror> DNS has less stuff
[09:11] <kingKonqueror> so i'd go with that
[09:11] <kingKonqueror> will be faster
[09:11] <level1> mishu: there are also command line utilities
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> anathema: you could renice the process.
[09:11] <slrazer> THANX :)
[09:11] <mishu> level1: like?
[09:11] <kingKonqueror> but you may want to turn off the DNS features afterwards
[09:11] <soundray> mishu: are you listening?
[09:11] <pete83> anathema: not sure, but check out the package called "linux-lowlatency"
[09:11] <slrazer> hum ok...
[09:11] <slrazer> hehe
[09:11] <anathema> thx pete83 , i will
[09:11] <mishu> My /var directory is 6.4 gb any reasons it can be so?
[09:11] <stuart-> how do i know if i'm using RAID/LVM or not?
[09:11] <Squee> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a roomates laptop, and it starts booting the live cd then just drops to a shell... anybody have any ideas on what I can try?  (I get the  error message "ata1:exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4000000 action 0x2 frozen"
[09:12] <cyber_cop> help please
[09:12] <level1> soundray: could you repost that command? I'd like to write it down
[09:12] <cyber_cop> color code program
[09:12] <level1> cyber_cop: whats up?
[09:12] <cyber_cop> I search color code program
[09:12] <DShepherd> cyber_cop, sudo apt-get install gcolor2
[09:12] <spiderworm> when booting my ubuntu box, my root filesystem is being mounted read only... can anyone help me with that?
[09:12] <cyber_cop> DShepherd: Thankyou very much
[09:12] <mishu> Damn it i installed Kannel and its log have been like 6.1 GB!
[09:13] <DShepherd> cyber_cop, your welcome very much
[09:13] <kingKonqueror> check your fstab
[09:13] <kingKonqueror> spiderworm
[09:13] <erUSUL> mishu: log spaming
[09:13] <SpComb> compare these two before/after images: http://zapotekii.paivola.fi/~terom/stuff/nvidia-2.png http://zapotekii.paivola.fi/~terom/stuff/nvidia-4.png
[09:13] <erUSUL> mishu: check the size of /var/log/
[09:13] <DShepherd> SpComb, me?
[09:13] <antony> Ive just installed ubuntu and then downloaded realplayer. It is in the format of .bin and i dont really know what to do from here to install it
[09:13] <kingKonqueror> spiderworm: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[09:13] <spiderworm> kingKonqueror: i havent touched my fstab, and the root fs is set to mount read-only when theres an error
[09:13] <SpComb> (the mouse focus should be on the "RightOf" option, but otherwise)
[09:13] <kingKonqueror> oh okay
[09:14] <SpComb> well, just to demonstrate the general stupidity of that particular GUI operation
[09:14] <NeVerSafe> i been playing with iwconfig and ifconfig (removed networkmanager for the time being) i can connect to my wireless server but i dont really know how to disconnect from it anyone know the command for it ?
[09:14] <kingKonqueror> spiderworm: check for errors then :) try dmesg
[09:14] <mishu> erUSUL: Whats that ..?
[09:14] <mishu> erUSUL: Log spamming?
[09:14] <DShepherd> antony, sh ./file.bin #should run it
[09:15] <mishu> how can i uninstall some software?
[09:15] <needhelp> NeVerSafe: maybe sudo ifdown <dev>
[09:15] <antony> thanks
[09:15] <kingKonqueror> mishu: sudo aptitude purge <packagename>
[09:15] <spiderworm> kingKonqueror: i have tried that and all the errors say something like hda1: rw=0, want=134219784, limit=115732197 ... attempt to access beyond end of device
[09:15] <DShepherd> antony, your welcome
[09:15] <kingKonqueror> or graphically via synaptic or even "add or remove programs"
[09:15] <IdleOne> mishu, my /var is 5.5G
[09:15] <erUSUL> mishu: maybe you are having a persistent error in some service or the kernel that is "spamming" the logs (filling them with the same repeated msgs)
[09:15] <erUSUL> mishu: check the size of /var/log/
[09:16] <NeVerSafe> needhelp,  i wanna disconnect give it new info for another network and connect but bringing the device down the up again will just connect to the old one again :(
[09:16] <mishu> Okay!
[09:16] <mishu> Yes its the bearbox that was doing it!
[09:16] <mishu> erUSUL:
[09:16] <Squee> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a roomates laptop, and it starts booting the live cd then just drops to a shell... anybody have any ideas on what I can try?  (I get the  error message "ata1:exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4000000 action 0x2 frozen"
[09:16] <mishu> It was bearbox!
[09:16] <erUSUL> mishu: bearbox??
[09:16] <kingKonqueror> spiderwordm: have you tried a fsck?
[09:16] <mishu> erUSUL -- Kannel part!
[09:16] <mishu> Kannel is sms gateway!
[09:17] <mishu> I installed it for someexperiments
[09:17] <caner_> is this possible to extract a pass protected rar file without knowing the password?
[09:17] <antony> i now get "cannot execute binary file"
[09:17] <NeVerSafe> Squee,  what video card is the computer running ?
[09:17] <spiderworm> kingKonqueror: yes, fsck -r /dev/hda1 just says its clean
[09:17] <needhelp> NeVerSafe: perhaps ifdown dev, iwconfig dev mode managed, iwconfig dev channel ch, iwconfig essid id, ifconfig dev up or ifup dev
[09:17] <erUSUL> mishu: just delete the old logs to free space and get rid of that software (or fix it so it does not spam the logs)
[09:18] <Gizmo_the_Great> any1 know why applications that utilised dual processors (two seperate CPUs - not dual core) on my PC with Dapper now only utilise one CPU at a time with Fesity Fawn and it's generic kernel? With Dapper I had the 687-SMP kernel
[09:18] <spiderworm> kingKonqueror: i'm using a rescue cd atm, that's where i tried doing fsck from
[09:18] <kingKonqueror> spiderworm: that is really weird...
[09:18] <kingKonqueror> hm
[09:18] <soundray> Gizmo_the_Great: first, make sure both CPUs are activated in the BIOS setup
[09:18] <cabroni>                           Wich version of Qt is embed in Ubuntu/kubuntu ? ? ?!
[09:19] <spiderworm> kingKonqueror: df says that hda1 is 61% full
[09:19] <gluttony> my sound was working the other day, and now its no
[09:19] <gluttony> t
[09:19] <Gizmo_the_Great> soundray, nothing has changed from before in BIOS so that is the same
[09:19] <spiderworm> kingKonqueror: i can mount the fs from the rescue disk and read/write to it just fine
[09:19] <erUSUL> Gizmo_the_Great: there shoulb be no difference between dapper smp kernel and feisty generic concerning that. why do you say that they only use one cpu?
[09:19] <caner_> could someone please tell me how to extract a password protected multipart rar file using the command line
[09:20] <slrazer> ok... annyone know how i cane change the color on my text? using server
[09:20] <kingKonqueror> spiderworm: hate to take a shotgun approach, but is reinstalling over it an option? if everything is partitioned nicely you can overwrite that one without needing to touch /home etc
[09:20] <Gizmo_the_Great> erUSUL, thats what I thought. In the past, the CPU monitor showed 100% usage for both, CPU1 & CPU2. Now only 100% for one, and a few % for the other
[09:20] <caner_> could someone please tell me how to extract a password protected multipart rar file using the command line
[09:21] <gluttony> when i first installed ubuntu, my sound was working just fine. now, when, i get no sound, even from start up
[09:21] <Gizmo_the_Great> erUSUL, the app is a grid computing app - BOINC
[09:21] <kingKonqueror> caner_: only google knows :)
[09:21] <spiderworm> kingKonqueror: its not really an option at this point, no
[09:21] <kallepersson> Hi
[09:21] <Squee> NeVerSafe, nvidia
[09:22] <caner_> kingKonqueror thanks
[09:22] <DShepherd> caner_, without using the password? I really dont know..
[09:22] <level1> Squee, gordonjcp: is an avermedia card likely to work well for me?
[09:22] <kingKonqueror> spiderworm: :( sorry to say i'm not sure then... i'm sure there are people more familiar with that kind of thing here though
[09:22] <spiderworm> what is the file that contains all the boot messages? is it /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages ?
[09:22] <burrit0> have a question, i have 2 partitions ext 2, one root and another media, how do i change the permission to the media partition
[09:22] <Squee> level1, I've only used hauppauge, so just google around and see what others have said about it
[09:22] <antony> i get "couldnt execute binary file" when i run the sh command on it. What should i do now
[09:22] <kallepersson> I have some problems with my wireless network, when I connect it only goes up to 30% and doesn't work.. Even though I've got the name/pass right.. Is there any way at all to solve that or am I doomed? It's a D-link wireless card and router
[09:23] <OneSeventeen> Is it possible to add windows fonts (other than the msttcorefonts) to ubuntu?
[09:23] <elad> I've installed kde4. How do I launch it?
[09:23] <OneSeventeen> (considering I have the .ttf files for the font)
[09:23] <kingKonqueror> elad: startkde
[09:24] <kallepersson> OneSeventeen, easy solution: put them in ~/.fonts/
[09:24] <kallepersson> Anyone?
[09:24] <kallepersson> Any help would be greatly apprechiated.
[09:24] <erUSUL> Gizmo_the_Great: dunno what may be happen... maybe some how boinc uses this? http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6799
[09:24] <OneSeventeen> kallepersson: if the directory doesn't exist, does that make a difference, or do I just create it?  (yes I am showing hidden files and folders)
[09:24] <caner_> DShepherd actually i already know the password. and after the extraction is finished the password window pops up again giving wrong password error. and deletes the whole thing it has extracted. here is what i wonder. how could it extract the 99% of the file if the pas is incorrect? i even cannot extract a rar file using ubuntu :(
[09:24] <kallepersson> OneSeventeen, yes
[09:24] <kallepersson> I think.
[09:24] <elad> kingKonqueror, how do I add it to the possible-sessions list in (I'm guessing) GDM?
[09:25] <OneSeventeen> kallepersson: thanks, I'll give it a go!
[09:25] <elad> running "kdestart" from the terminal gives me several erros, and no kde.
[09:25] <Squee> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a roomates laptop, and it starts booting the live cd then just drops to a shell... anybody have any ideas on what I can try?  (I get the  error message "ata1:exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4000000 action 0x2 frozen" - It has an nvidia card so that is not the problem
[09:25] <kingKonqueror> elad: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2920.html
[09:25] <kingKonqueror> elad: that's for openbox, but same idea
[09:26] <DShepherd> caner_, oh.. well on the command line.. unrar -e file.rar #not sure if that helps
[09:26] <antony> DSheperd: i now get a "cannot execute binary file" error
[09:26] <elad> brb
[09:26] <slrazer> ok.. im using server edition... why dosent dir work?
[09:27] <erUSUL> Squee: ata1:exception Emask 0x10 SAc <<<< thats an hard disk error ata1 is the second ide/sata port
[09:27] <erUSUL> slrazer: 'dir' the DOS command?
[09:27] <burrit0>  have a question, i have 2 partitions ext 2, one root and another media, how do i change the permission to the media partition
[09:27] <DShepherd> antony, try ./file.bin. if that doesnt work. try .. chmod +x file.bin then ./file.bin again
[09:27] <slrazer> whats the ubuntu comand then?
[09:28] <yoshibond> hi everyone! thanks for any help anyone can provide. I have a 36" older 1080i capable fullscreen (not widescreen TV) which I just managed after a long struggle to get working with Ubuntu via the component out port on my videocard /// i am currently using 480i 720X480 .... if i want to get 1080i ... what resolution should I use??? I tried 1920X1080 and it was huge overscan (could only see the middle of the screen) and i tried 1024X7
[09:28] <yoshibond> 68 and it only showed the whole screen in a box in the center about 1/4 the size of my TV ./... any help would be awesome!
[09:28] <erUSUL> slrazer: in unix/linux is 'ls' run 'man ls' for details
[09:28] <Squee> erUSUL, It came installed with vista and that worked, but after we wiped the hard drive we are getting these errors... Is there anything we can do besides returning the laptop?
[09:28] <slrazer> ok THNX
[09:28] <antony> DSheperd, spot on. Thanks
[09:28] <erUSUL> slrazer: some distros define an alias dir='ls -al'
[09:28] <needhelp> Hi, can  someone please help me with connecting to the wireless router??  Here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32958/
[09:28] <srbaker_> folks
[09:28] <caner_> DShepherd thank let me try it
[09:28] <srbaker_> anyone here use balsa for imap?
[09:29] <DShepherd> antony, your welcome
[09:29] <notgod> argh. so I installed, then removed cyrus-impad... now when I install it again, there's no start-up script. (I deleted the old one)
[09:29] <srbaker_> i want to make balsa use trash, sent, junk on my imap server, not the local folders
[09:29] <remi___> hey all
[09:29] <erUSUL> Squee: i do not know... sorry. maybe it is just linux that has problems with the ata port...
[09:29] <notgod> so can anyone tell me how to completely reinstall it?
[09:30] <DShepherd> !info unrar | caner_
[09:30] <ubotu> caner_: unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[09:30] <Squee> erUSUL, alright, thanks for trying
[09:30] <DShepherd> caner_, just in case you need to install it
[09:30] <Twigathy> Can I run ubuntu with no swap at all? Will it explode when it runs out of RAM (And will it do stupid stuff like cache massively and then run out of RAM)
[09:31] <crackintosh> has anyone been able to get hosting a samba share to work out of the box on ubuntu?
[09:31] <crackintosh> there is so much work that goes into it.
[09:32] <bipolar> Has anybody else noticed openoffice.org crashing when opening documents created in non-ubuntu versions?
[09:32] <DShepherd> bipolar, nope.
[09:33] <EvanCarroll> is there a room I can go to if I have a technical question and not something gnome related?
[09:33] <bipolar> I've got two ubuntu feisty installs with the exact same issue
[09:33] <DShepherd> bipolar, thats not happening with me
[09:33] <DShepherd> EvanCarroll, here?
[09:33] <IdleOne> EvanCarroll, ask away and if need be we will redirect
[09:33] <yoshibond> hi everyone! thanks for any help anyone can provide. I have a 36" older 1080i capable fullscreen (not widescreen TV) which I just managed after a long struggle to get working with Ubuntu via the component out port on my videocard /// i am currently using 480i 720X480 .... if i want to get 1080i ... what resolution should I use??? I tried 1920X1080 and it was huge overscan (could only see the middle of the screen) and i tried 1024X7
[09:33] <yoshibond> 68 and it only showed the whole screen in a box in the center about 1/4 the size of my TV ./... any help would be awesome!
[09:34] <animal> HELP me plz when i try to watch a movie with TOTEM MOVIE PLAYER it says ERROR:  internat data flow error
[09:34] <animal> why ?
[09:34] <EvanCarroll> the nagios2 package, is borked on my system, it won't let me uninstall it (because it fails a script_ and I can't install it, becuase it fails a script, and forcing it isn't working either because the dpkg documentation sucks donkey nuts.
[09:34] <bipolar> this document crashes oo on both of them. I'm downloading the windows version now for my vmware install to do some more testing.
[09:34] <animal> what should i do ?
[09:34] <EvanCarroll> I've tried --force-all [-r|-i]  and apt's --reinstall install
[09:34] <IdleOne> EvanCarroll, sudo apt-get -f install see if it fixes it
[09:34] <EvanCarroll> IdleOne: won't work, uninstall script.
[09:34] <slrazer> im trying to install openssh-server and it say media chnage: please insert the disk labelled `ubuntu-server 7.04 _feisty fawn_ -release i386` in the ` /cdrom/` and press enter..... but wen i press enter NATHING hapens...
[09:34] <feb> hi, is here the right place to ask questions strange things happening with the gcc toolset in ubuntu ?
[09:35] <trompetenkaefer> @animal try to reinstall your totem player with the gstreamer plugins
[09:35] <crackintosh> animal: go lookup the resolution of 1080i
[09:35] <bullgard4> I have got an error message: "The resume partition is not set up. Probably you need to add a 'resume=...' option to your kernel command line and reboot." Where can I find the 'kernel command line'?
[09:35] <crackintosh> or try 1366x768
[09:35] <animal> look-up what ?
[09:35] <EvanCarroll> IdleOne: invoke-rc.d: initscript nagios2, action "stop" failed.
[09:35] <animal> how to reinstall ?
[09:35] <crackintosh> the resolution in pixels used by a 1080i tv
[09:35] <trompetenkaefer> go in synaptic and select the packages totem etc. with the option "reinstall"
[09:36] <IdleOne> EvanCarroll, maybe it needs sudo? not sure
[09:36] <crackintosh> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution
[09:36] <EvanCarroll> bullgard4: /boot/grub/menu.list
[09:36] <animal> and how do i know that resolution ?
[09:36] <guestt> find the limit if it exists or show that it does not exist.   lim(x,y)->(0,0)  2yx^2/(x^2+y^2)
[09:36] <crackintosh> you said you have a 1080i tv right?
[09:36] <EvanCarroll> IdleOne: I've been using debian for 7yrs. this is a much more complex problem than that.
[09:36] <guestt> i get 0,   anyone else??
[09:36] <el_taco> ok, my windows partition is /dev/hda1 and ubuntu on /dev/hda3 I want to purge the windows partiton my question isn't the mbr on the windows partition or is that before it?
[09:36] <gluttony> my sound has complely stopped working. it used to work, like when i booted up and what not. but now i have no sound. anyone know what to do
[09:36] <IdleOne> EvanCarroll, sorry it is way above me then
[09:36] <keito> PLEASE HELP>>>having trouble with games when setting res to 1280x1024.  my desktop is set to 1280 and there's no problems but in games it just freezes.  ANy IDEAS?
[09:37] <trompetenkaefer> wich soundcard do you have? an intel 97?
[09:37] <EvanCarroll> el_taco: the mbr isn't on a partition.
[09:37] <trevor_> hello
[09:37] <trompetenkaefer> hi
[09:37] <EvanCarroll> el_taco: google for mbr, it is always on the first sector of the hard drive.
[09:37] <EvanCarroll> el_taco: which nothing will parition over.
[09:37] <el_taco> EvanCarroll, it has a boot flag on the partition tho.
[09:38] <bullgard4> EvanCarroll: I will try. Thank you.
[09:38] <notgod> can anyone tell me how to restore a start-up script for a removed package? I removed the package, deleted the init.d script, then re-installed. The start-up script is not coming back.
[09:38] <bannerman> level1: is there a particular reason not to raid swap? I'm a bigger fan of uptime than performance.
[09:39] <level1> bannerman: well, you can simulate it using fstab
[09:39] <EvanCarroll> el_taco: the mbr is most definitly not on the windows parition, and because window's has a shitty boot loader, you probably aren't using that either, so it is most probably safe to "purge" or nuke the win partition.
[09:39] <el_taco> here I go... <fingers crossed>
[09:39] <level1> bannerman: see, if you create multiple swap pratitions over multiple hard drives and write them all into fstab in the same way, the kernel will raid 0 over all of them
[09:39] <EvanCarroll> notgod: try to apt-get --reinstall install it.
[09:39] <keito> el_taco: are you using grub?
[09:40] <el_taco> keito yes.
[09:40] <EvanCarroll> level1: do you know that to be a fact?
[09:40] <keito> then you shouldn't have an issue
[09:40] <level1> EvanCarroll: it said that in a webpage
[09:40] <level1> !raid
[09:40] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:40] <keito> el_taco: think that grub might need editing afterwards to remove the win entry
[09:40] <bannerman> level1: yeah, but raid 0 basically means if any disk crashes, my uptime is gone
[09:41] <bannerman> level1: I'd rather run raid 1
[09:41] <EvanCarroll> level1: i think that is the wrong terminology.
[09:41] <notgod> EvanCarroll: tried that, no luck.
[09:41] <OneSeventeen> kallepersson: dragging the fonts to the .fonts folder worked great!
[09:41] <level1> bannerman: well, I don't know.  My computer never, ever swaps, so I only need it for hibernating
[09:41] <soundray> How can I make gcc-3.4 and friends the default instead of -4.1? There doesn't seem to be a way with update-alternatives.
[09:42] <jarle__> Which package do I need to install to get the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ directory?
[09:42] <level1> bannerman: but I guess you can do raid 1 swap if your really that concerned... but the kernel stuff shouldn't be swapped, so I wouldn't think that even a hard disk crash would break it
[09:42] <level1> bannerman: why do you need super uptime?  are you running a server?
[09:42] <bannerman> level1: yes.
[09:42] <SpComb> how do I set the keyboard layout on a system level? I.e. so that it applies on startup on the terminal, login screen and the default for Gnome sessions?
[09:43] <SpComb> I set it to the finnish layout when I installed it, but for whatever reason it's now the US English layout
[09:43] <EvanCarroll> even a raid1 swap on the world's fastest platter based moving-parts harddrive, would be a magnitude of a thousands of times slower than any modern ram
[09:44] <linux_> how i can change my ip ?
[09:44] <keito> anyone else experienced X crash when playing games at 1280*1024
[09:44] <keito> anyone know a fix?
[09:44] <kingKonqueror> linux_: do you have a static IP or what?
[09:44] <jarle__> linux_: ifconfig
[09:44] <sleepwalkers> keito: I'm a bit of a newbie, however I'd assume that's some sort of driver issue.
[09:44] <linux_> kingKonqueror , no
[09:45] <jarle__> linux_: or in the system settings..
[09:45] <notgod> jeebus. wish apt-get removed start-up scripts you no longer use because you deleted the package. :)
[09:45] <annoia> I've booted off the ubuntu unstall-CD, but it can't start X... How do I install from a terminal?
[09:45] <keito> sleepwalkers: I am running ati which I'm guessing is probably the issue
[09:45] <bannerman> EvanCarroll: level1 is right, according to the guides and crap that I've been reading.
[09:45] <trompetenkaefer>  @annoia you have to download the alternate disc for installing in text mode
[09:46] <ricre1> Can anyone help me out with some sound problems?
[09:46] <sleepwalkers> Keito: Yeah, AFAIK ATI still has pretty poor Linux driver support. Does it happen with almost every game, or just one in particular?
[09:46] <keito> sleepwalkers: want to make sure it is before upgrading to nVidia, as if the problem remains afterwards I'll want to destroy my box with a sledgehammer
[09:46] <trompetenkaefer> which sound card do you have?
[09:46] <annoia> trompetenkaefer - There's no text-mode command for installing it on the normal CD? :(
[09:46] <ricre1> Everything worked in a fresh install, but all of the sudden it won't play anymore
[09:46] <trompetenkaefer> hmm i havent seen one yet
[09:46] <kingKonqueror> linux_: if you're on DHCP then, you'll just sometimes get a new one from your DHCP server... if you're behind a NAT router (i.e. your DHCP doesn't come from your ISP) then you can give yourself a static IP outside the range assigned by the router, using one of the methods mentioned
[09:46] <keito> sleepwalkers: Nexuiz crashes when set to 32bit mode
[09:46] <trompetenkaefer> have you an intel 97 sound card
[09:47] <keito> sleepwalkers: can't run team eilte at anything higher than 1024.768
[09:47] <sleepwalkers> Hm. I would call that a driver issue and not a game bug, especially if strange things are happening in more than one game.
[09:47] <keito> sleepwalkers: same goes for enemy territory
[09:47] <bullgard4> My Ubuntu 7.04 includes 1794 files having 'kconfig' in its name. Which one is the most important?
[09:47] <ricre1> no some sound blaster live
[09:47] <sleepwalkers> I have an older nVidia card and haven't experienced any problems like that.
[09:47] <ricre1> is my sound card
[09:47] <sleepwalkers> Ti4600
[09:48] <linux_> kingKonqueror , im directly connected to dinamic ip with cable modem on eth1
[09:48] <keito> sleepwalkers: can't get sauerbraten to compile for love nor money either even though all dep's are met (as far as I can tell)
[09:48] <trompetenkaefer> oh, i had that problem with my intel sound card, there is a workaround for solving that problem
[09:48] <ricre1> The weird thing is that everything worked perfectly well off a fresh install
[09:48] <bullgard4> /proc/acpi/embedded_controller/EC0/info lists "gpe:0x17". Does 'gpe' here stand for 'GPE Palmtop Environment'?
[09:48] <sleepwalkers> Keito: Try more money. :P I don't know why that'd be happening.
[09:49] <ricre1> And the only things I've installed since then are apache, rails, and gvim
[09:49] <keito> sleepwalkers: ? more money?
[09:49] <el_taco> now do I need to add the boot flag to the ubuntu partition or is it not necessary cause grub is handling it?
[09:49] <sleepwalkers> Keito: Just a lame joke. Don't worry 'bout it.
[09:49] <ricre1> so I can't imagine what would have changed that would mess with the sound
[09:49] <keito> sleepwalkers: ;0) I'm in the market for a 768MB nVidia anyway
[09:49] <unagi> is it possible to convert dvr-ms to mov in linux?
[09:50] <Borat> Hey guys can someone help me with cpufreq-selector on my centrino m? I am having problems making it work,
[09:50] <lockd> ~~
[09:50] <unagi> whats with the mistmatched MB on video cards these days
[09:50] <keito> sleepwalkers: gonna want to max the settings for quake wars!!!!!!!!!
[09:50] <sleepwalkers> Keito: Yeah, if you're a mostly (or only) Linux guy, nVidia is still the way to go.
[09:50] <sleepwalkers> Keito: Oh jeez. Quake Wars. Can't wait!
[09:50] <lockd> keito: can you pastebin sauerbraten compile fail?
[09:50] <keito> sleepwalkers: i switched completely to ubuntu after my MBR became corrupted due to a crappy power supply
[09:51] <sleepwalkers> Keito: Good move. :)
[09:51] <lockd> unagi: what's dvr-ms, a video format?
[09:51] <el_taco> I need photoshop so I'm stuck.
[09:51] <unagi> microsofts recording format for media center
[09:51] <lockd> el_taco: I am fairly sure you can use Wine to run photoshop
[09:51] <trompetenkaefer> perhaps searching the launchpad site would help you https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[09:52] <el_taco> I couldn't get cs2 to run under wine.
[09:52] <notgod> can anyone tell me how to restore a start-up script for a removed package? I removed the package, deleted the init.d script, then re-installed. The start-up script is not coming back.
[09:52] <keito> lockd: I managed to get it to compile but I'm sure something has messed up as it creates a sauer_client but after running that x goes to 800*600 & crashes out
[09:52] <gordonjcp> set host togusa
[09:52] <gordonjcp> bah
[09:52] <jarle__> how can I show a list of packages that will install files in /lib/modules/ (or a subdir)?
[09:53] <lockd> unagi: ffmpeg can convert a lot, but there are reports of it not working on the soundtrack
[09:53] <soundray> !apt-file | jarle__
[09:53] <ubotu> jarle__: apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update"
[09:53] <keito> sleepwalkers: yep I'm happy so far but I need some windows apps for work and now I'm reluctant to install virtualbox or others as when windows goes on it can potentially make my nice secure ubuntu into an unsecure os again like xp
[09:53] <unagi> i just need the vid
[09:53] <keito> as far as I've read into it anyway
[09:54] <soundray> jarle__: actually, I think only the linux-image-* packages install under that path
[09:54] <richard_> 1100 people and nobody knows where the "trash" goes ?
[09:54] <lockd> unagi: then ffmpeg should work, but what's it for?
[09:54] <Mishu> How can i check what time is it on my remote shell machine?
[09:54] <el_taco> keito on my box at home I installed vmware server and used the existing windows install and it works like a champ.
[09:55] <unagi> i need to convert dvr-ms to mov to png or from dvr-ms straight to png so i can work with it
[09:55] <lockd> unagi: oh
[09:55] <soundray> richard_: don't be daft. If you don't get a reply, you may have to repeat your question.
[09:55] <el_taco> well.. only problem is that it didn't want to use 1680x1050 screen res
[09:55] <richard_> soundray: Sorry, wasn't trying to be rude
[09:55] <disasm> texlive and dvi don't want to seem to work together with command "\includegraphics" :( If I reinstall tetex all works well. Keep getting error dvips: Could not find figure file when i generate the dvi with texlive...
[09:56] <lockd> unagi: ffmpeg should do that, probably could just "ffmpeg infile outfile.mov"
[09:56] <jarle__> soundray: I try to compile a module and it seems like I am missing the "build" directory in my /lib/modules/<mykernel>/ so I'm trying to figure out which package I'm missing...
[09:56] <el_taco> jarle__ linux-headers and build-essential?
[09:56] <richard_> I accidentally hit CTRL+T  nautilus had the focus, apparently this moves things to the "trash" without any warning... So I'm trying to find this mystical "trash" so I can get back my family vaction photos...
[09:56] <soundray> richard_: for a normal user, it would be $HOME/.Trash/ -- there are also equivalent directories on mounted filesystems
[09:57] <keito> el_taco: is it fast? I'd be doing graphically intensive vj apps
[09:57] <soundray> richard_: note, case sensitive
[09:57] <soundray> jarle__: in that case, you'll want to install the linux-headers packages.
[09:57] <richard_> soundray, Thanks
[09:57] <Borat> can someone help solve this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3149762#post3149762
[09:57] <disasm> jarle__: I think you can symlink it to something in linux-headers. I never seem to have any luck using the ubuntu kernel with custom modules so usually end up wgetting the latest source from kernel.org and compiling myself
[09:57] <lockd> unagi: any luck?
[09:58] <unagi> nope
[09:58] <unagi> says Unable for find a suitable output format for 'csi.dvr-ms'
[09:58] <el_taco> keito, I only installed it a few days ago and haven't done anything real complex except open photoshop and poke around a little. but it leaves your normal install intact so you can still dual-boot if needed.
[09:58] <Mishu> is there some command which can clear a file
[09:58] <jarle__> soundray: "linux-headers-generic is already the newest version."
[09:58] <lockd> unagi: where can i find a sample dvr-ms file?
[09:58] <Xoris> Mishu: "clear"?
[09:59] <keito> well I don't dual boot.  I'd want to install a fresh xp on the drive
[09:59] <unagi> i dunno.....do u have media center?
[09:59] <lockd> unagi: no no windows
[09:59] <Mishu> Xoris, How it clear somefile
[09:59] <Mishu> Xoris, What option i have to giv?
[09:59] <EvanCarroll> dpkg blows.
[09:59] <soundray> jarle__: then you will need to give the header location in your Makefile (instead of /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build, it will be /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/
[09:59] <keito> Mishu: what do you mean clear? delete?
[09:59] <Mishu> Xoris, I need to clear a file
[09:59] <unagi> id like to not use windows but i cant
[09:59] <Xoris> Mishu, i have no ide what you mean with "clear".
[09:59] <Mishu> keito, delete contect of file!
[10:00] <Mishu> content
[10:00] <Xoris> Mishu: try "shred" or "wipe"
[10:00] <bipolar> Does anyone know if openoffice 2.2.1 is available as a feisty backport?
[10:00] <keito> Mishu: ? rm?????
[10:00] <soundray> Xoris: I found a solution to my earlier problem...
[10:00] <unagi> ok thats interesting
[10:00] <soundray> Mishu: cat /dev/null >filetoclear
[10:00] <unagi> apparently mplayer can convert it but the resolution is wrong
[10:00] <unagi> how can i change the output resolution for mplayer
[10:00] <Xoris> soundray: won't that fill the file up until the disk is full?
[10:01] <soundray> Xoris: no. Note it's /dev/null, not /dev/zero
[10:01] <Xoris> soundray: what was it?
[10:01] <keito> soundray: /dev/zero zero-fills drive?
[10:01] <Xoris> soundray: oh, /dev/null right... never used it for input
[10:01] <ROnewbie> anyone - my programs (skype, yahoo messenger, gmail notifier, battery indicator) no longer show up in the right side of the taskbar when active. How can I fix that ?
[10:01] <Xoris> keito: if you cat it to a drive, yes. otherwise, no
[10:02] <keito> soundray: so you can zero-fill just a file then?
[10:02] <jarle__> soundray: thnx!
[10:02] <soundray> Xoris: the program depended on libfltk-dev, which also comes with a math.h. Now I was giving the wrong include path, /usr/include/FL, when I should just have given it /usr/include
[10:03] <Xoris> keito: it won't be zero filled i think, just shrunk to 0 size. if you want to make sure the data aren't accessible *by any means* anymore, use shred or wipe (which won't give you 100% security either, but anyway)
[10:03] <bipolar> ROnewbie: sounds like you might have accedently closed the notification area applet
[10:03] <soundray> keito: dd if=/dev/zero of=zerofile bs=512 count=1
[10:03] <lockd> unagi: check Wikipedia for dvr-ms
[10:03] <Xoris> soundray: "you" as in manually? you had to give the include path manually?
[10:03] <lockd> unagi: tells you what you might be able to use with a universal transcoder (ffmpeg)
[10:03] <soundray> Xoris: yes, in the cmake config. It didn't find it spontaneously.
[10:03] <bipolar> ROnewbie: I don't use Gnome, so I'm not exactly sure how you would start it back up. I imaging something along the lines of right clicking on the taskbar and then on 'add applet' or some such.
[10:03] <keito> cheers guys for the tip
[10:04] <slrazer> nead HELP::::... trying to install samba.. i type sudo apt-get install samba an the  comuter start to downliad and then i sad. do you want to continure? and i sad yes and then it say "Media Change: please insert the disc labelled `ubuntu-server 7.04 _Feisty Faw_ - release i386 (20070415)` in the drive `/cdrom/` and press enter...  wen i hawe the cd in and press enter NATHING hapens ust the massige comes agen... help :(
[10:04] <keito> spybot used to have a shredding function and you could set how many times to shred
[10:04] <needhelp> Hi, can  someone please help me with connecting to the wireless router?
[10:04] <keito> my personal fav method of data destruction is thermite
[10:04] <Xoris> soundray: weird though because /usr/include is the *default* include path... if you call gcc without any options at all, it'll just use that
[10:04] <NeVerSafe> slrazer, try apt-get smbfs
[10:05] <Xoris> soundray: but then i've seen weirder build systems *shrug*
[10:05] <Warbo> Hi, does anyone use Gossip with a Googletalk account? I can't get it to connect (Jabber.org works, other clients work)
[10:05] <gordonjcp> Xoris: why wouldn't shred or wipe give you 100% security?
[10:05] <keito> some advise: should I be using some anti-spyware programs like spybot/adaware or am i covered?
[10:06] <Xoris> gordonjcp: it's still possible with advanced (microscopic, etc) techniques to retrieve contents. this is mainly because the HD's heads aren't positioned 100% accurately, so you can "read the gaps"
[10:06] <keito> I'd also like to use a peerguardian equivalent on linux too
[10:06] <soundray> Xoris: thanks again for your pointer in the right direction.
[10:06] <MattJ> Warbo, maybe this thread is helpful: http://lists.imendio.com/pipermail/gossip-dev/2006-February/008560.html ?
[10:06] <notgod> can anyone tell me how to restore a start-up script for a removed package? (Specifically, cyrus-imapd-2.2)I removed the package, deleted the init.d script, then re-installed. The start-up script is not coming back. I tried apt-get --reinstall install, etc, no luck.
[10:06] <Xoris> gordonjcp: and on the other hand, without such advanced techniques, filling the file with /dev/zero is more than enough, as by software-only means you won't be able to retrieve anything
[10:06] <Warbo> MattJ, thanks I'l have a look (I've been googling for a while with no success)
[10:07] <ROnewbie> bipolar: thanks. I'll give this a try
[10:07] <gordonjcp> Xoris: yeah, but once you've overwritten the data, the old data is indistinguishable from noise
[10:07] <lockd> unagi: you need ffdshow, at the least
[10:07] <Xoris> notgod: uhm, but it should... sure that file doesn't actually belong to *another* package (i.e. a dependency?)
[10:07] <gordonjcp> Xoris: so if you scribble over a disk with suitably random values, nothing will ever be retrievable
[10:07] <keito> Xoris: if i zero-fill a drive using a boot disc several times then the chance of recovering the data inbetween gaps is reduced?
[10:07] <gordonjcp> Xoris: at least, on any disk made in about the past 10 years
[10:08] <gordonjcp> keito: don't zero-fill, fill it with random junk
[10:08] <gordonjcp> keito: /dev/audio might be a good source ;-)
[10:08] <keito> interesting
[10:08] <Xoris> gordonjcp: that's what makes wipe and shred a better idea that just filling with zeroes. but just google, and you'll find that there is still a possibility of retrival
[10:08] <gordonjcp> Xoris: no, there's not
[10:08] <gordonjcp> it's impossible
[10:08] <gordonjcp> the data is *gone*
[10:08] <Xoris> keito: just use wipe or shred, they do the work for you
[10:09] <keito> are these built-in functions to linux?
[10:09] <gordonjcp> Xoris: you've no way of distinguishing between the data written to disk, any residual flux, and just plain noise
[10:09] <eldkraft> when i logged in to CLI it said "1 failure since last login", how do I the boot check?
[10:10] <jarle__> keito: /dev/random
[10:10] <Xoris> gordonjcp: well, i'm pretty sure i've read a competently-written article (or at least so it seemed) claiming the contrary. i don't have web access now though, so... anyway we can agree that for 99.9% practical purposes, wipe/shred erase a file
[10:10] <Xoris> at least on ext2
[10:10] <gordonjcp> Xoris: on extremely old disks that used MFM, then yes, you can *in theory* guess the likely value of an overwritten bit by seeing how far off of average a particular bit is
[10:10] <str1> do you guys recommend enabling the feisty-backports repository ?  i want my system to be stable so does this repo contain untested stuff ?
[10:10] <keito> eldkraft: fsck?
[10:11] <gordonjcp> Xoris: modern disks use something akin to QAM to write to the disk, packing more bits on and making it impossible to work out what the old bit was
[10:11] <PriceChild> str1, If stability is paramount, I suggest you don't.
[10:11] <fevel> hey...im using ubuntu on my laptop, and I was wondering...do I really need a firewall??
[10:11] <selfsearcher[] > hi!
[10:11] <slrazer> why dose my computer say "Media Change: please insert the disc labelled `ubuntu-server 7.04 _Feisty Faw_ - release i386 (20070415)` in the drive `/c
[10:11] <eldkraft> eito, that is a command or a file?
[10:11] <PriceChild> !firewall | fevel
[10:11] <eldkraft> keito
[10:11] <ubotu> fevel: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:11] <ROnewbie> bipolar: is this how it's called - "notification area applet" ? there doesn't seem to be anything like that here
[10:12] <soundray> str1: it doesn't contain untested stuff
[10:12] <notgod> Xoris: how do I get the complete list of dependencies? I re-installed all the cyrus packages.
[10:12] <ROnewbie> bipolar: I have the option to "add to panel"
[10:12] <keito> fevel: the iptables are as secure as they get (as far as I'm aware) and a GUI like firestarter is only there to help you open ports for programs (thus making the system less secure)
[10:12] <bipolar> ROnewbie: sorry, I'm not really sure. I don't use gnome myself...
[10:12] <ROnewbie> bipolar: and then a bunch of applications ...
[10:12] <ROnewbie> bipolar: thanks, anyway
[10:12] <PriceChild> slrazer, you have a cd in your /etc/apt/sources.list I guess and its wanting the package off of there. You can remove the cd from system > admin > software sources
[10:12] <keito> eldkraft: yes?
[10:12] <str1> soundray: so what exactly does backport mean ?  it seems like old software ported to feisty ?
[10:12] <eldkraft> ok thank you
[10:12] <selfsearcher[] > slrazer does it say it when you need to install a new application?
[10:13] <fevel> keito, but I install ubuntu on average users desktops...Do you find a firewall necessary?
[10:13] <soundray> str1: generally, you want backports for upstream feature upgrades that aren't deemed important or security-relevant enough to warrant a mainline update.
[10:13] <ROnewbie> does anyone know how I can re-add to panel my notification area applet ?  i seem to have disabled it somehow.
[10:13] <soundray> str1: no, it's new software ported to feisty.
[10:13] <PriceChild> !pm | slrazer
[10:13] <ubotu> slrazer: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[10:13] <keito> fevel: I'd ahve said no.  I haven;t found the need for using a GUI frontend yet
[10:13] <PriceChild> slrazer, then remove the cdrom line manually from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:13] <soundray> !backports > str1
[10:14] <str1> soundray: ah ok.  it seems good then ill keep it then
[10:14] <fevel> keito, I meant a firewall altogether
[10:14] <PriceChild> slrazer, in here please :)
[10:14] <keito> fevel: it would become useful if you were using a bittorrent client or another p2p app
[10:14] <StoneNewt> hum, is it me or is the unmount of network fs's in the wrong order? ie the network drives are unmounted AFTER the network is downed?
[10:15] <slrazer> ok.,..
[10:15] <fevel> keito, why would it become usefull? wont it restrict the p2p access?
[10:15] <slrazer> im using ubuntu server--- so i hawent got x...
[10:15] <keito> fevel: a hardware firewall is always a good security measure, but as far as I'm aware the system is secured very well from default.
[10:15] <ROnewbie> does anyone know how I can re-add my notification area applet to the taskbar ?  i seem to have disabled it somehow.
[10:15] <slrazer> im ust using temenal
[10:16] <str1> one more question:  i am getting failed package download for some extra repos like seveas and medibuntu...  where can i get the PGP key from that i need to add ?
[10:16] <Kalisto> hi, i have a Intel Core2 Duo. what version of ubuntu do i get? Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)== or== 64bit AMD and Intel computers
[10:16] <PriceChild> slrazer, use your favourite text editor to remove the apt-cdrom line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:16] <ubuntu__> ok, i have a problem. I'm trying to install kubuntu, but I dont know what disks of mine have crap on them (i have 3 HD's, only 1 is empty -- but they are all ntfs)
[10:16] <Floker> Hey guys. i installed KDE (kubuntu-desktop) for testing purposes and now i have the kubuntu splash screen when booting my computer. how can i get rid of that?
[10:16] <Busata> ROnewbie: Right click the panel, click + Add to panel, scroll down, and double click notification-area :)
[10:16] <PriceChild> !usplash | Floker
[10:16] <ubotu> Floker: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[10:16] <Creeture> Floker: look at update-alternatives
[10:16] <keito> fevel: the firewall in linux is already there once you install the system, the actual firewall that you install is only a graphical user interface to access the iptables that are by default very safe
[10:16] <fevel> yeah...I think so too, im using it for a month now...I dont think there was any incidents. Can someone help me forense that?
[10:16] <Xoris> notgod: apt-cache show packagename. or apt-cache --recurse depends packagename, but that will be very verbose. you can also try "auto-apt search init-d-filename" to see what package that files belongs to... but you have to install apt-file first, and run "sudo apt-file update"
[10:17] <soundray> str1: if you get a sources.list via source-o-matic, it will tell you in the header of that file
[10:17] <soundray> !easysource > str1
[10:17] <Floker> thank you PriceChild
[10:17] <fevel> keito, yes I understand...but there are no rules by default right??
[10:17] <ubuntu__> anyone know how i can view things on my disks? where they are mounted to and what not?
[10:17] <Xoris> fevel: right
[10:17] <fevel> keito, im talking about feisty desktop and not server
[10:17] <keito> fevel: by default nothing can get in (as far as I'm aware)
[10:17] <Pelo> ubuntu__, you can try  menu > system > prets > system monitor ,  fourth tab
[10:17] <Xoris> ubuntu__: just typing "mount" gives you the information you mentioned
[10:18] <kevinmcq> anyone here experience with the orinoco driver and can give me advice about getting it to use monitor mode?
[10:18] <fevel> keito, so from a fresh desktop install im not protected correct?
[10:18] <keito> fevel: you are.
[10:18] <Xoris> keito: you mean in a default ubuntu installation? then no, that's not correct
[10:18] <BVBBQ> well damn, i just upgraded to feisty and now the computer wont start properly. it gets past the loading screen then goes black. flashes to dark grey then back to black.... after a while just goes grey.
[10:18] <ubuntu__> i dont think the drives actually mounted thought
[10:18] <keito> xoris: whats the score then?
[10:18] <ubuntu__> nope
[10:18] <Pelo> ubuntu__,  check in gparted then
[10:18] <ubuntu__> my disks aren' mounted
[10:18] <JamesDS> > anyone have a ATI Radeon XPress 200M ? <
[10:18] <ubuntu__> ok
[10:18] <PriceChild> !anyone | JamesDS
[10:18] <Xoris> keito: anything can get in, by default. it's just that there's few/no sensitive services enabled by default.
[10:18] <ubotu> JamesDS: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:18] <fevel> I dont understand keito if nothing could come in...how com I have peers conected to me?
[10:18] <soundray> JamesDS: yes, and it's a PITA
[10:19] <str1> soundray:  thats great.  thanks for the help
[10:19] <kevinmcq> anyone here running feisty and has a wifi card using orinoco drivers and has patched it to use monitor mode?
[10:19] <notgod> Xoris: thanks, found it. had the old 2.1 version hanging around and had to perge them then reinstall everything. :)
[10:19] <slrazer> PriceChild: how do i open it in temenal?
[10:19] <spiderworm> hey all it seems the /etc/init.d/rcS file is important?
[10:19] <keito> fevel: looks like i stand corrected
[10:19] <ubuntu__> only 2 of my 4 disks are showing up...
[10:19] <lattera> I've got an intel 965gm video card in my laptop
[10:19] <Xoris> fevel: simple, connections *can* get it. ubuntu comes with no firewall rules, i.e. everything is allowed to connect. what makes it relatively safe by default is that no sensitive services are loaded
[10:19] <RoundyT1> Hey, i was looking at backing up my server .... what kind of options does ubuntu have??
[10:19] <lattera> I installed the newest drivers
[10:19] <JamesDS> soundray: what do you mean by PITA ?
[10:19] <evan_> hasn't ubuntu a package with java ,music and video plugins ?
[10:20] <lattera> but, when X starts, my screen is just black
[10:20] <BVBBQ> well damn, i just upgraded to feisty and now the computer wont start properly. it gets past the loading screen then goes black. flashes to dark grey then back to black.... after a while just goes grey. someone please help!
[10:20] <bobgill> Hey guys I have an .mp3 and some pictures, What can I use to make a movie that transitions the pictures with the music playing? (Like many Youtube videos) :) ??
[10:20] <soundray> JamesDS: pain in the neck ;)
[10:20] <lattera> and I can't get to a console
[10:20] <ubuntu__> i have that stupid jmicron controller that seems to be getting bypassed...
[10:20] <lattera> anyone know how to solve that?
[10:20] <keito> Xoris: so how wold fevel go about securing his/her system
[10:20] <JamesDS> soundray: ahh!  can you get restricted drivers working for it?
[10:20] <fevel> Xoris, I see...so for an average user its ok without a one right?
[10:20] <slrazer> how do i open sources.list in the temenal so i cane change in it...
[10:20] <RoundyT1> Hey, i was looking at backing up my server .... what kind of options does ubuntu have??
[10:21] <TheMeltdown> slrazer: gksudo /etc/apt/source.list
[10:21] <Xoris> keito, fevel: depends what he wants to achieve, everything's a compromise between security and simplicity. as he just said, yeah, i'd say for an average user who doesn't do things he should avoid (like installing servers/daemons without knowing what he's doing), it's alright
[10:21] <PriceChild> slrazer, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <soundray> JamesDS: yes, but it's very unstable, sometimes showing only a white screen, requiring to switch back and forth between console and X. Nothing that my wife can deal with (it's her laptop), so we're using the radeon driver on it.
[10:21] <fevel> no no keito. Im not trying to secure it. I want to know how far it would go without anyone tweaking anything security related
[10:21] <Xoris> TheMeltdown: gksudo is not an editor ;)
[10:21] <PriceChild> slrazer, I reckon you should be using a gui until you're competent on the command line
[10:22] <ubuntu__> crap
[10:22] <slrazer> ahhhhhh
[10:22] <BVBBQ> well damn, i just upgraded to feisty and now the computer wont start properly. it gets past the loading screen then goes black. flashes to dark grey then back to black.... after a while just goes grey. someone please help!
[10:22] <fevel> ok
[10:22] <ubuntu__> i just realized that my boot disk is on the jmicron controller
[10:22] <slrazer> gksudo i dont hawe..
[10:22] <soundray> ubuntu__: no profanities please.
[10:22] <PriceChild> slrazer, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <ubuntu__> i wont be able to boot to linux...
[10:22] <mcscruff> is there anywhere you can download ubuntu live 2007 coverage?
[10:23] <slrazer> Thanx :)
[10:23] <kevinmcq> anyone know how to get orinoco driver patched to have monitor mode on feisty?
[10:23] <mcscruff> kevinmcq, for aircrack?
[10:23] <kevinmcq> mcsruff amoung other things, yet
[10:23] <kevinmcq> yes
[10:23] <RichW> How can i manually stop compiz from loading at boot?
[10:23] <ubuntu__> how can i get around this dumb jmicron controller problem?
[10:23] <MilitantPotato> whats a good fanspeed/temp monitor? AMD x2 3800 (K8) system
[10:23] <ubuntu__> i thought this should have been fixed with the fiesty release...
[10:23] <soundray> MilitantPotato: mbmon
[10:24] <bannerman> I'm sure I'm not the first person to say this, but it's absoultely ludicrous that the Ubuntu installer does not warn you that you can't put /boot in a software raid 5 partition!
[10:24] <mcscruff> kevinmcq, look on the aircrack website under support or docs, it has the step by step guide
[10:24] <soundray> !info mbmon | MilitantPotato
[10:24] <ubotu> militantpotato: mbmon: Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (text client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.05-4 (feisty), package size 65 kB, installed size 196 kB (Only available for i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 knetbsd-i386)
[10:24] <MilitantPotato> soundray: ty
[10:24] <kevinmcq> mcscruff, problem is the majority of the guides ive found are all over 2 years old
[10:24] <kevinmcq> and are not tested on feisty
[10:24] <BVBBQ> well DAMN, i just upgraded to feisty and now the computer wont start properly. it gets past the loading screen then goes black. flashes to dark grey then back to black.... after a while just goes grey. someone please help!
[10:24] <mcscruff> kevinmcq, they work :)
[10:24] <kevinmcq> have you done it, on feisty?
[10:24] <mcscruff> oooo yea
[10:25] <kevinmcq> kk, well as long as i know it works correctly on feisty then ill try it, thanks
[10:25] <mcscruff> kevinmcq, i have atheros chipset that worked fine
[10:25] <soundray> JamesDS: not what you wanted to hear, I take it?
[10:25] <kevinmcq> if i run into problems can i message you?
[10:25] <mcscruff> kevinmcq, sure
[10:25] <keito> Xoris: should I be configuring firestarter for use with p2p apps like nicotine then?
[10:25] <kevinmcq> thanks, aircrack site right? not airsnort?
[10:25] <kevinmcq> ive seen the airsnort docs not the aircrack stuff
[10:25] <ubuntu__> anyone have a jmicron controller?
[10:26] <vor> Hi, How can I make sour no data/cached files, from a smb-mount-over-ssh, are left on a clinet after a pc crash/logoff. my concern is to bild a system that if stolen will have no data on it. the winxp client is given, so I can't boot to ram from cd I only need to secure the samba mount is wiped.
[10:26] <keito> kevinmcq: you can install this from synaptic
[10:26] <mcscruff> kevinmcq, the aircrack site is the guide i use as it links to the patch and how to use it
[10:26] <maeth> my linux ubuntu server died on a bad update, i asked here a few weeks ago and there was nothing that could be done cause there wasnt a way to revert the problem, now i tried to reinstall ubuntu on top of the old data, but it couldnt be done cause of problems found during the install, some of the data couldnt be written, now i removed the HD to my work PC and i booted up in the live CD, i now try to access the files , i mounted the HD with no pro
[10:26] <maeth> blems, i also mounted my NTFS HD in order to backup everything in NTFS3g with no problems, but when i try to access the files of the "lampp" or "xampp" some folders says that im not authorized... WHAT CAN I DO??
[10:26] <mcscruff> keito, u cant installed patched drivers
[10:26] <kevinmcq> thanks mcscruff
[10:26] <mcscruff> np
[10:26] <LinuxProbie> hey peeps, how do i totally remove java so i can do a clean install?
[10:26] <ubuntu__> !jmicron
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jmicron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <keito> mrscruff:  word
[10:26] <kevinmcq> keito, i already have it installed, read up on what i said before lol
[10:27] <XiXaQ> how do I install a theme globally? I've unpacked one to /usr/share/themes, but it isn't available. What else do I need to do?
[10:27] <mcscruff> is there gonna be a ubuntu conference in uk?
[10:27] <luddite> hello, i'm having issues with enabling nvidia graphics acceleration.
[10:28] <Busata> XiXaQ: if it's a tar.gz file, I think you can just drag it to the theme config tool
[10:28] <Magicmush> hi everybody
[10:28] <Magicmush> anyone speak french and can help me with the file reception on Xchat???
[10:28] <luddite> i install (through) synaptic, the appropriate modules, kernel headers, source and when it reboots it tells me there is a mismatch between the module version
[10:28] <skinnypuppy_1334> Which smb.conf should I edit?In dir  /etc/samba/ or /usr/share/samba  ?
[10:29] <luddite> any advice for my nvidia issue?
[10:29] <JamesDS> soundray: well, I have seen people that have this card working great
[10:30] <JamesDS> soundray: so I was looking for some direction :)
[10:30] <kaos_> hi can anyone help me with an ndiswrapper broadcom problem i have installed the driver and the card works and connects but only gets up to about 30kb/s max and im on a 7mb connection
[10:30] <dgjones> !fr | Magicmush
[10:30] <ubotu> Magicmush: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:30] <skinnypuppy_1334> Which copy of smb.conf should I edit ? In dir  /etc/samba/ or /usr/share/samba
[10:30] <soundray> JamesDS: there seem to be different revisions around. I've heard about some that work well, too. I just haven't been so lucky.
[10:30] <JamesDS> soundray: ah, yeah
[10:30] <JamesDS> soundray: do you happen to have a compaq laptop?
[10:30] <soundray> JamesDS: my PC has the same chip board-integrated. I gave up on it and got an nvidia PCI-e card.
[10:30] <spiderworm> can anyone tell me what their /etc/init.d/rcS file has in it please?
[10:31] <Kalisto> hi, i have a Intel Core2 Duo. what version of ubuntu do i get? Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)== or== 64bit AMD and Intel computers
[10:31] <XiXaQ> Busata, but will that make it available to all users?
[10:31] <JamesDS> soundray: that's the great thing about PCs!  expansion
[10:31] <Busata> XiXaQ: not sure, doubting it
[10:32] <kaos_> spiderworm - exec /etc/init.d/rc S
[10:32] <kaos_> thats the only line and im on a fresh install of feisty
[10:33] <soundray> Kalisto: Ubuntu 7.04 Desktop Standard if you want a straightforward experience. Go for amd64 if you want the last bit of performance and don't mind a few troubles with Acrobat Reader and other proprietary programs.
[10:33] <derenrich> what account does apache run under?
[10:33] <kaos_> www?
[10:33] <Creeture> derenrich: www-data
[10:34] <kaos_> hi can anyone help me with an ndiswrapper broadcom problem i have installed the driver and the card works and connects but only gets up to about 30kb/s max and im on a 7mb connection
[10:34] <derenrich> Creeture: I saw somewhere a reference to an account with a colon in it, any idea what that was?
[10:34] <Gun_Smoke> I am trying to locate the Swiftfox icon..  I don't know where to look.
[10:34] <spiderworm> thank you kaos_
[10:35] <spiderworm> kaos_: can you also perchance tell me what your /etc/init.d/loopback file has in it?
[10:35] <kaos_> wait out
[10:35] <quaal> anyone know of a good daily planner/scheduler app
[10:35] <Blauhaut> Guys i want to burn my .mpg files on vcd format ? is it posible how ?
[10:35] <Gun_Smoke> quaal: I like gmails calander.
[10:35] <Gun_Smoke> calender*
[10:36] <quaal> Gun_Smoke, hmm
[10:36] <soundray> Blauhaut: again, check out k3b
[10:36] <quaal> i use thunderbird to access my gmail
[10:36] <kaos_> spider quite a bit i dont think i can paste it here
[10:36] <spiderworm> kaos_: also your /etc/init.d/networking file :) please
[10:36] <spiderworm> oh damn
[10:36] <spiderworm> pastebin perchance?
[10:36] <Gun_Smoke> quaal: Plus you can publish any calender you want.
[10:36] <kaos_> where is the patebin on here?
[10:36] <Ultra_Immortal> Hello
[10:36] <kingKonqueror> quaal: check out mozilla sunbird if you just want the calendar
[10:36] <Ultra_Immortal> Just wondering
[10:36] <herbaliser> hi how can i check my xorg.conf for errors before restarting X?  what is the command to do this.  like checking apache config file for errors
[10:36] <Ultra_Immortal> when I download this
[10:37] <quaal> sunbird!?
[10:37] <herbaliser> is this possible
[10:37] <Ultra_Immortal> Is the iso bootable?
[10:37] <kingKonqueror> quaal: or if you want calendar + email etc, try mozilla thunderbird with the calendar plugin
[10:37] <Ultra_Immortal> I can do a clean install from scratch?
[10:37] <quaal> hmm i'll look for the calendar plugin
[10:37] <quaal> thanks kingKonqueror
[10:37] <Xoris> Blauhaut: it's possible, there are a couple of packages that let you do it... i don't have access to an ubuntu machine right now, so try "apt-cache search video cd" or "apt-cache search vcd" and such
[10:37] <kaos_> . /etc/default/rcS
[10:37] <kaos_> case "$1" in
[10:37] <kaos_>     start)
[10:37] <kaos_> 	[ -d /var/run/network ]  || mkdir /var/run/network
[10:37] <kaos_> 	log_begin_msg "Starting basic networking..."
[10:37] <Gun_Smoke> Anyone know where I can find the icon swiftfox uses?
[10:37] <kaos_> 	if ifup --allow auto lo; then
[10:37] <kaos_> 	    log_end_msg 0
[10:37] <kevinmcq> mcscruff, aircrack says my hermes card doesnt support injection
[10:37] <Magicmush> someone can help me with the file reception on Xchat plz T_T
[10:37] <kaos_> 	else
[10:37] <kaos_> 	    log_end_msg $?
[10:37] <kevinmcq> so i guess im SOL
[10:37] <kingKonqueror> quaal: yes, sunbird: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/ :)
[10:37] <kaos_> 	fi
[10:37] <kaos_> 	;;
[10:37] <Blauhaut> Xoris; ummm
[10:37] <kaos_>     stop)
[10:37] <SirBob1701> so if i have postgres 8.1 installed can i remove it and install 8.2 and it will carry over all my dbs?
[10:37] <kaos_> 	log_begin_msg "Stopping basic networking..."
[10:38] <kaos_> 	if ifdown lo; then
[10:38] <Ultra_Immortal> is ths ISO bootable?
[10:38] <kaos_> 	    log_end_msg 0
[10:38] <kaos_> 	else
[10:38] <mcscruff> kevinmcq, hmm, read the forums see if anyone got it working
[10:38] <kaos_> 	    log_end_msg $?
[10:38] <kaos_> 	fi
[10:38] <Blauhaut> soundray; is it posible to burn mpg files on vcd format with k3b ?
[10:38] <kaos_> 	;;
[10:38] <kaos_>     restart|force-reload)
[10:38] <soundray> herbaliser: you could login on a text console (Ctrl-Alt-F1), run 'X :1' and see if it works. If it does, kill it with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. If it doesn't it'll show you some output
[10:38] <kaos_> 	exit 0
[10:38] <kaos_> 	;;
[10:38] <aneb> !paste | kaos_
[10:38] <kaos_>     *)
[10:38] <ubotu> kaos_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:38] <kaos_> 	echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/loopback {start|stop|restart|force-reload}"
[10:38] <kaos_> 	exit 1
[10:38] <aneb> !ops | kaos_
[10:38] <kaos_> 	;;
[10:38] <ubotu> kaos_: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[10:38] <kaos_> esac
[10:38] <kaos_> exit 0
[10:38] <kaos_> spiderworm did you get that?
[10:38] <soundray> Blauhaut: I don't know, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't.
[10:38] <jarle__> Shouldn't grub automatically be updated to boot the new kernel when it is installed??
[10:38] <Ultra_Immortal> hello
[10:38] <Blauhaut> soundray; upps i am looking for it about 30 min :) and can not find
[10:38] <bayside> I just removed my cd drive and installed a dvd drive but my bios does not see the dvd drive how do I get it to be reconized?
[10:39] <N3432> i cant seem to use sudo on a new ubuntu install ?
[10:39] <Blauhaut> soundray; maybe it is time to surprise :)
[10:39] <kitche> bayside: you have to play around with your bios to get it working I had to
[10:40] <bayside> kitche: I did mess around with it, I saw nothing that would make it reconize it
[10:40] <kevinmcq> mcscruff,  k
[10:40] <Ultra_Immortal> Can I do a clean install with the ISO. Is it bootable?
[10:40] <soundray> Blauhaut: maybe it is. If so, you should probably search the web. You may need to go low level with transcode, ffmpeg, mencoder and friends.
[10:40] <Paradox34690> hey all... I have a potentially stupid question dealing with a .bin file that I just downloaded....
[10:40] <kingKonqueror> N3432, what do you mean? says you have the wrong password, or is it just not available?
[10:40] <Ultra_Immortal> Can I do a clean install with the ISO. Is it bootable?
[10:40] <Xoris> !info vcdtools | Blauhaut
[10:40] <ubotu> blauhaut: vcdtools: Creates Video CD (VCD) filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-2 (feisty), package size 29 kB, installed size 108 kB
[10:40] <Floker> hello, how can i set my console to a specific resolution? (in my case 1280x800)?
[10:40] <aneb> Paradox34690: a question is a question. ask.
[10:40] <aneb> !desktop | Ultra_Immortal
[10:40] <ubotu> Ultra_Immortal: A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[10:40] <Blauhaut> Xoris; can vcdtools burn mpg ?
[10:40] <N3432> i think i lost the password for root already on my new ubuntu install.. lol
[10:40] <Ultra_Immortal> Can I do a clean install with the ISO. Is it bootable?
[10:40] <Ultra_Immortal> Can I do a clean install with the ISO. Is it bootable?
[10:41] <Ultra_Immortal> Can I do a clean install with the ISO. Is it bootable?
[10:41] <aneb> Ultra_Immortal: er wrong factoid....
[10:41] <Gun_Smoke> N3432: SOL then.
[10:41] <Seveas> !root | N3432
[10:41] <ubotu> N3432: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:41] <soundray> Blauhaut: highlevel tools seem to be vcdimager and vcdtools, check them out yourself (found with apt-cache search)
[10:41] <Floker> i got a framebuffer enabled console and its at 1024x768, however since my monitor is 1280x800 it looks a bit stretched
[10:41] <aneb> !root | Gun_Smoke
[10:41] <N3432> Seveas: when i do sudo nothing happens
[10:41] <ubotu> Gun_Smoke: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:41] <aneb> !language | Gun_Smoke
[10:41] <ubotu> Gun_Smoke: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:41] <Blauhaut> soundray; ok thanks againmy friend
[10:41] <Gun_Smoke> aneb: I actually do have a root password..
[10:41] <Paradox34690> good point... Well, anyways, I just downloaded this MMORPG called PlaneShift. I got the x86 file which, as I stated, is a .bin file.  The instructions for installation say to do a "chmod +x PlaneShift_CBV0.3.019-*", which I've done, but i'm lost now... there's nothing more as far as instructions for what to do next....
[10:42] <RoundyT1> Hey, i was looking at backing up my server .... what kind of options does ubuntu have??
[10:42] <kingKonqueror> Paradox34690, run it :)
[10:42] <aneb> Gun_Smoke: Don't :-)
[10:42] <lockd> you can login as root if something in sudo goes kaboom
[10:42] <jarle__> "apt-get upgrade" tells me "The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic" Why won't it upgrade my kernel?
[10:42] <Xoris> Blauhaut, the VCD format *is* mpeg. mpeg with standardized resolution and stuff, and on a standardized filesystem structure.
[10:42] <RoundyT1> !backup
[10:42] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:42] <kingKonqueror> Paradox34690,  if you're in a GUI, just double click it
[10:42] <Seveas> jarle__, because you didn't do apt-get dist-upgrade ;)
[10:42] <aneb> lockd: better to reboot and choose recovery.
[10:42] <kingKonqueror> Paradox34690, or from the terminal, cd to the directory it is in, and run ./filename
[10:43] <Xoris> Blauhaut: also, for a GUI, i see that Arson (though it's a KDE app) can help you burn VCD
[10:43] <aneb> lockd: a root password is as secure as the user who sets it - not secure at all.
[10:43] <jarle__> Sevaes: ah.... better.. thnx!
[10:43] <N3432> Seveas: when i do sudo nothing happens ..
[10:43] <RoundyT1> !sbackup
[10:43] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[10:43] <kingKonqueror> N3432, what is the command you're trying to run with sudo?
[10:44] <Paradox34690> kingKonq (and all), I have already, but i get a message that states "Cannot open /home/paradox/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.019-x86.bin: No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file."
[10:44] <Paradox34690> and the ./<filename> from terminal
[10:44] <kingKonqueror> Paradox34690, that sounds like it still doesn't have execute permissions
[10:44] <jerbear> how can i set a folder image in gnome? similar to having a "folder.jpg" in windows
[10:44] <kingKonqueror> try ignoring chmod for now and just right click the icon and view its permissions - make sure it can execute
[10:45] <Floker> heres one hard question: i have a server running 24/7 (w/o graphics) - what the heck should i do with it? :>
[10:45] <Paradox34690> okay... any pointers then? (i'm totally new to linux).   Okay, I'll check that out.
[10:45] <pramz> jerbear, right click on the folder and then click the icon button
[10:45] <jarle__> Floker: file/web server?
[10:45] <aneb> Floker: i use mine as a service
[10:46] <Paradox34690> kingK: It is set as "allow executing file as program"...
[10:46] <jerbear> pramz: i'm trying to do i programmatically because i have a ton of folders to work with
[10:46] <Pelo> Paradox34690,  this will come in handy  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/ and http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[10:46] <Floker> aneb, what kind of service do you mean?
[10:46] <Paradox34690> ooooo, thanks Pelo... I'll bookmark it.
[10:46] <pramz> jerbear, i recommend asking on the gnome irc since its a nautilus thing
[10:47] <jerbear> pramz: no one seems to be awake in there :)
[10:47] <pramz> jerbear, try the gnome mailing lists
[10:47] <Pelo> Paradox34690, there are two, they have been most usefull to me in the past
[10:47] <nexous> How do I change the boot order of grub boot loader so that Windows boots first rather than ubuntu?
[10:48] <Paradox34690> I've saved them both Pelo. THanks :)
[10:48] <kingKonqueror> nexous, edit your menu.lst file
[10:48] <kitche> nexous: change default in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:48] <Floker> nexous, i'd recomment not to do that
[10:48] <nexous> Floker: Whys that?
[10:48] <slrazer> ok... this is not an easy question :P how do i mane an directory in terminal :P
[10:48] <Pelo> nexous,   sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  find the windows menu entry lined and carefully move them to the top
[10:48] <Blauhaut> he will back ...
[10:48] <Pelo> nexous,  not the top of the file,  the top of the menu entries
[10:48] <Floker> nexous, because then youre gonna use windows more often
[10:48] <nexous> Pelo: alright
[10:48] <Floker> :)
[10:49] <kitche> Pelo: you don't have to move the windows entry at all but it does make it easier :)
[10:49] <Pelo> nexous, if you upload your menu.lst file to pastebin I can tell you wich lines to move to where
[10:49] <nexous> Pelo, well I have to go to ubuntu first, I'll be back on irc chat on there if i have troubles.
[10:49] <nexous> Thank you though.
[10:49] <Pelo> kitche, realy ? how then ?, just curious,  not tryiing to show you up or anything
[10:50] <kitche> Pelo change the default line to whatever windows is set to
[10:50] <Pelo> kitche wut ?
[10:50] <kitche> Pelo: grub has a line that has default 0 you can change that to whatever windows is
[10:51] <roger_padactor> is there something like microsoft visio for linux?
[10:51] <ompaul> roger_padactor, it is called dia
[10:51] <Pelo> kitche,  0 being the first item in the menu I take it
[10:51] <kitche> Pelo: I believe so
[10:52] <Pelo> kitche, thanks for the heads up
[10:52] <bottiger> How do i print a paper as "draft" ? to speed things up and save ink?
[10:53] <Pelo> bottiger,  look in the printer manager,  you should be able to lower the dpi
[10:53] <ompaul> bottiger, it can also depend on you telling the application you are using to print in draft quality
[10:53] <nexous> Okay I'm back, uploading menu.lst file.
[10:53] <skinnypuppy_1334> Filesharing b/t ubuntu and xp on a lan, I can see both machines in the browse list, but can't connect either way. What am I missing?
[10:54] <roger_padactor> where can i find shit DIA
[10:54] <nexous> # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
[10:54] <nexous> #            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
[10:54] <nexous> #            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
[10:54] <nexous> #            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.
[10:54] <nexous> ## default num
[10:54] <nexous> # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
[10:54] <nexous> # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
[10:54] <kitche> !paste | nexous
[10:54] <ubotu> nexous: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:54] <nexous> #
[10:54] <nexous> # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
[10:54] <bottiger> ompaul, Pelo: how can I do it from the commandline?
[10:54] <nexous> # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
[10:54] <nexous> # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
[10:54] <nexous> # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
[10:54] <kitche> ompaul: can you mute nexous
[10:54] <nexous> default		0
[10:54] <nexous> ## timeout sec
[10:54] <nexous> # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
[10:54] <nexous> # (normally the first entry defined).
[10:54] <Pelo> bottiger,  that I donT' know,  sorry,  I'm a wimp
[10:54] <ompaul> nexous, ehh use the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:54] <bottiger> Pelo: okey
[10:55] <skinnypuppy_1334> Filesharing b/t ubuntu and xp on a lan, I can see both machines in the browse list, but can't connect either way. What am I missing? Yes I have smb installed and uncommented one line in smb.conf for linux systems
[10:55] <jaydoggg> Pelo: Hey bud, thx again for the help on the dual boot
[10:55] <ompaul> bottiger, as Pelo said
[10:55] <Pelo> nexous, like ompaul  said,  upload the menu.lst file to the pastebin
[10:55] <ompaul> !pastebin
[10:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:55] <ompaul> nexous, I will remove the mute in a minute or two
[10:55] <Pelo> jaydoggg, glad it worked out for you
[10:56] <nexous> ## e.g. alternative=true
[10:56] <nexous> ##      alternative=false
[10:56] <Floker> special characters are displayed wrong in the console, what can i do about this?
[10:56] <Vinchenzo28> how do i edit xorg.conf file
[10:56] <nexous> # alternative=true
[10:56] <jaydoggg> Pelo: ya, I got it kinda on my own but :-)  I just boot from my boot manager in bios...simple esc key at post lets me choose the hdd to boot to
[10:56] <Floker> sry i meant the shell
[10:56] <MasterShrek> Vinchenzo28, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:56] <ompaul> man what a seriously long buffer
[10:56] <Vinchenzo28> Thanks
[10:56] <MasterShrek> Vinchenzo28, but be careful, make sure u konw what ur doing
[10:57] <Vinchenzo28> yeah
[10:57] <MasterShrek> Vinchenzo28, back up your old one too
[10:57] <Vinchenzo28> how do i back it up?
[10:57] <ompaul> Vinchenzo28, this auto backs it up >>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:57] <MasterShrek> sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[10:57] <spheard> how do I record audio with ubuntu?
[10:57] <Pelo> jaydoggg, varies with the bios mine won't let me do that ,  just select between one of each kind, one hdd, one cdrom, one floppy, I wish I had yours
[10:57] <ompaul> Vinchenzo28,  while letting you do the business
[10:57] <Vinchenzo28> ok
[10:57] <nosmoke7804> I'm trying to run the ubuntu live cd. I'm booting from the CD and choose the first option. The boot screen shows, and after it seems to be done loading I get an error message.
[10:57] <nosmoke7804> Out of range signal. Cannot display the video mode, change computer display input to 1920 x 1200 @ 60Hz
[10:58] <zitner> I'M Trying to get my 3D Accleration to work, anyone have any ideas???
[10:58] <jaydoggg> Pelo: ya, mine is a DFI Lanparty NSF ultra D sli,  the boot options are sick
[10:58] <nosmoke7804> can any one help figure this out? i've been googling and reading threads at ubuntuforums.org but no answer
[10:58] <Pelo> nosmoke7804,  look at the live cd boot menu, at the bottom you have options to set the resoloutin
[10:58] <jaydoggg> NF4 :-)
[10:58] <MasterShrek> zitner, what kinda gfx card?
[10:59] <zitner> Mobile Intel 945GM Express MasterShrek
[10:59] <nosmoke7804> Pelo: I've tried that, I've got a Dell 23" monitor and a ATI graphics card
[10:59] <Pelo> jaydoggg, i'm poor , my mobo is cheap
[10:59] <nosmoke7804> 24"*
[10:59] <MilitantPotato> I'm having issues getting the proper refresh rate on this monitor, I edited xorg.conf to the proper refresh rate but I still can't select it.  Feisty w/ a 6800GT running compiz fusion ontop of XGL
[10:59] <jaydoggg> Pelo: i'm living beyond my means, not so smart
[10:59] <su-hoens> anyone here used mdadm?
[10:59] <jaydoggg> todays problem is installing flash
[10:59] <zitner> I got the resolution fixed, and the open gl, but I can't figure out the 3D stuff.
[10:59] <jaydoggg> any takers?
[10:59] <Pelo> nosmoke7804, with ati cards it is usualy best to use the alternate install cd , it is text based , makes things easier to start with, you can install the proper ati drivers after the install is complete
[10:59] <evan_> hey i installed JRE6 without problems but in firefox java is not enabled, I did enable it in firefox settings
[11:00] <chemturion> hey there is there a way to securely delete a file in ubuntu?
[11:00] <MasterShrek> zitner, what 3d stuff? like compiz?
[11:00] <Paradox34690> skinnypuppy, gyou still having problems with the network filesharing?
[11:00] <Pelo> jaydoggg, you didnT' install the amd64 version of ubuntu didyou ?
[11:00] <zitner> Um, 3D acceleration for games.
[11:00] <mcscruff> chemturion, rm filename
[11:00] <medfly> i wanna be able to move the mouse with the keyboard, something similar to the windows numpad mouse. does anyone know a way to do it?
[11:00] <eldkraft> hm, I trying to disable services in CLI , how can I see what runlevel is default. the tutorial suggest that I should have a look in inittab but it doesn't exist in the /etc directory.
[11:00] <spheard> Does anyone know how I can record an audo stream
[11:00] <jaydoggg> Pelo:  not sure, I got a disc from a dude at work and just installed it
[11:00] <zitner> I use Beryl.
[11:01] <chemturion> mcscruff: Does that write over it?
[11:01] <MasterShrek> zitner, im not very familiar with intel graphics cards
[11:01] <MilitantPotato> I'm having issues getting the proper refresh rate on this monitor, I edited xorg.conf to the proper refresh rate but I still can't select it.  Feisty w/ a 6800GT running compiz fusion ontop of XGL
[11:01] <herbaliser> anybody can point me to a guide to configure geforce 7800 go tv-out on ubuntu
[11:01] <Pelo> spheard,  search in the forum, I'm sure youcan find instructions for it
[11:01] <herbaliser> i tryed nvtv but it says video-card not supported
[11:01] <MasterShrek> herbaliser, if you install the driver from nvidia's site it will give you a nice little gui program for configuring this
[11:01] <nosmoke7804> Pelo: Can a newbe do that? :)
[11:01] <zitner> IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT KNOW ABOUT THE MOBILE INTEL 945GM EXPRESS GRAPHICS CARD?????
[11:01] <kitche> !caps | zitner
[11:01] <ubotu> zitner: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:02] <zitner> Sorry, lol.
[11:02] <kkathman> hehe whoa!
[11:02] <Pelo> jaydoggg,  just be aware that if you installed amd 64 it has no flash plugin for it , I,ll tell you how in a minute
[11:02] <mcscruff> zitner, ME MAYBE AS I HAVE ONE
[11:02] <jaydoggg> Pelo: ok thx
[11:02] <Pelo> nosmoke7804, I havne't tried it myself but I am told it is easy just not pretty
[11:02] <Pelo> !flash | jaydoggg
[11:02] <ubotu> jaydoggg: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:02] <Paradox34690> oh, speaking of nvidia, I downloaded the newest driver for my card, but when i go to install it, i'm told that I can't install it while in x.  So, um... what do i do?
[11:02] <zitner> MCSCRUFF, I'm trying to get my 3D acceleration to work.
[11:02] <herbaliser> MasterShrek ok will have a look, installed drivers using envy?
[11:02] <bluefox83> where is gconf editor located?
[11:02] <mcscruff> zitner, good luck, i decided not too as i couldnt run alot
[11:02] <MasterShrek> i dunno herbaliser, never used envy
[11:03] <bluefox83> !gconf
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <Pelo> Paracha,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop , I thnk
[11:03] <zitner> Huh, you lost me, what do you mean?
[11:03] <mcscruff> my cube wasnt smooth enough and if i used a few plugins it all went to shit
[11:03] <herbaliser> MasterShrek ok i have the gui didn't see nvidia-settings
[11:03] <paritosh> is there any way to apply widgets to all applications of kde? including firefox and other non-kde apps
[11:03] <quasar8888> Hello I need HELP !!!
[11:03] <medfly> i wanna be able to move the mouse with the keyboard, something similar to the windows numpad mouse. does anyone know a way to do it?
[11:04] <herbaliser> tnx, was experimenting with xorg.conf but didn't go all that well :)
[11:04] <quasar8888> cannot play DVDs
[11:04] <zitner> Oh, you're talking about Beryl, I'm talking about for gaming purposes.
[11:04] <Pelo> !dvd | quasar8888
[11:04] <ubotu> quasar8888: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:04] <herbaliser> quasar8888 www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:04] <B3nne> hey, can some1 help me find out what graphic card i have? please
[11:04] <MilitantPotato> I'm having issues getting the proper refresh rate on this monitor, I edited xorg.conf to the proper refresh rate but I still can't select it.  Feisty w/ a 6800GT running compiz fusion ontop of XGL
[11:05] <Pelo> B3nne, I assume you no longer have your computer's documentation ?
[11:05] <jaydoggg> oh well, flash isnt that important i guess
[11:05] <zitner> MCSRUFF, I mean for gaming purposes, not for Beryl.
[11:05] <Paradox34690> B3nne, you could probably go to System > preferences > hardware information and find it out from there (or at least the chipset)
[11:05] <nosmoke7804> Pelo: I'm downloading and trying now, but will it make any difference when done? How can I install ATI drivers?
[11:05] <B3nne> pelo: i want to know what graphic card i have so i can install the rutins for it
[11:05] <Pelo> nosmoke7804,  you just come back here and we'll give yo instrutions
[11:05] <Pelo> jaydoggg,  did you checkout the links ?
[11:06] <roger_padactor> what is a good torrent program for ubuntu? like utorrent
[11:06] <jaydoggg> Pelo: checking them out now
[11:06] <nosmoke7804> Pelo: I've only got one computer, installing dual boot style! :)
[11:06] <jaydoggg> gnash looks like a viable alt
[11:06] <evan_> hey i installed JRE6 without problems but in firefox java is not enabled, I did enable it in firefox settings
[11:06] <Pelo> B3nne,   menu >system > prefs > hardware information   you can locate your video card in ther e
[11:06] <medfly> roger_padactor, theres azureus and just text things.
[11:06] <B3nne> paradow34690: thank you
[11:06] <MilitantPotato> Anyone know why the change in refresh i made in xorg.conf isn't available?
[11:06] <roger_padactor> hmmm
[11:07] <medfly> MilitantPotato, maybe you gotta restart x?
[11:07] <Pelo> jaydoggg,  try this ,   menu < system > admin > synaptic package manager,   search for flash and see what comes up , install the package listed,   make sure you enable all the repositories first,  ( in the menus)
[11:07] <MilitantPotato> whats the command for that medfly
[11:07] <ryancr> is there a pidgin repo for Dapper?
[11:07] <nosmoke7804> The Live CD gives me an option to start installation in simple graphic mode or something, and I got that one to work. Can I choose that option after installation also?
[11:07] <medfly> MilitantPotato, ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:07] <medfly> MilitantPotato, :-)
[11:07] <MilitantPotato> ok brb!
[11:07] <jaydoggg> Pelo: i'm on it
[11:07] <zitner> Ok, um, does anyone know where I can go for help for 3D acceleration for intel cards on Ubuntu?
[11:07] <Paradox34690> no prob... if it says NV(anything) it's an nvidia chip... I can only assume that if it says ATI(something) it's an ATI, now as far as your EXACT card... i can think of 1 of two things... Either open up the case and find out on the card itself, or (if it's a laptop) go to the manufacturers website.
[11:07] <Pelo> nosmoke7804, did you get the cd or the dvd ?  because you can install in txt mode from the dvd
[11:08] <medfly> ryanakca, dont think so, last i checked. i compiled pidgin myself. theres an older version fo gaim, tho.
[11:08] <medfly> i wanna be able to move the mouse with the keyboard, something similar to the windows numpad mouse. does anyone know a way to do it? (or can give me some direction)
[11:08] <nosmoke7804> Pelo: CD, can't burn DVDs :(
[11:08] <ChaosMachine> zitner specifically what intel card? and is it a card or onboard?
[11:08] <medfly> MilitantPotato, does that work?
[11:08] <Pelo> nosmoke7804,  you can try the simple graphic mode if you want,  it can't hurt but I donT' knwo what it is
[11:08] <MilitantPotato> no
[11:08] <MilitantPotato> still max of 55htz
[11:09] <Paradox34690> hey medfly, does that pidgin let you do sms messages as well?
[11:09] <nosmoke7804> Pelo: Is that option there after installation also? From the GRUB menu?
[11:09] <medfly> Paradox34690, i didnt know it can do SMS messages. :-)
[11:09] <Paradox34690> nonono, i'm asking if it can
[11:09] <MilitantPotato> I snagged the proper V and H refresh for this monitor at 1024x768, plugged that into xorg.conf
[11:09] <Pelo> nosmoke7804, I thought you wre talking about something you saw, sorry I guess I missread you, forget it then
[11:09] <Grungebunny> Hello.. im having difficulty adding a user to Ubuntu, whatever password I set when I add the user, the login screen doesn't seem to recognize it. what am I doing wrong?
[11:09] <Pelo> later folkls
[11:10] <nosmoke7804> Pelo: OK
[11:10] <medfly> Paradox34690, i dont know if its related to your operation system if you are capable of doing it on pidgin. i never knew of that feature or tried to use it. :-)
[11:10] <Paradox34690> I'm interested in finding something like Gaim (or pidgin) that is also capable of SMS... anyone know anything like that?
[11:10] <medfly> Paradox34690, oh, i see.
[11:10] <MilitantPotato> medfly: that didn't work, rebooting didn't either. :(
[11:10] <Paradox34690> medfly: it's cool... :)
[11:10] <Grungebunny> Paradox you can do SMS on Yahoo but I dunno if the yahoo side of GAIM does it.
[11:11] <medfly> MilitantPotato, i remember that ubuntu had some fancy setting, on gnome. like on your top menu. you can change the refresh rate in there too. maybe that will work :-)
[11:11] <herbaliser> i have setup configure tv-out but i have only black-white on my tv, is this my tv or xorg.conf file?
[11:11] <medfly> MilitantPotato, (maybe its overriding it)
[11:11] <Paradox34690> Grungebunny: Nah, Gaim (at least the one preinstalled on Ubuntu) doesn't do SMS. I never even thought of seeing if yahoo had something that was linux compatible. :)
[11:12] <Grungebunny> im having difficulty adding a user to Ubuntu, whatever password I set when I add the user, the login screen doesn't seem to recognize it. what am I doing wrong?
[11:12] <MilitantPotato> medfly: I'm going to system>pref>screen rez
[11:12] <Paradox34690> Grunge: Is YOUR user set to administer the system?
[11:12] <MilitantPotato> It deffinatly seems to be ignoring xorg.conf
[11:13] <Grungebunny> paradox yep
[11:13] <Ben_Cs> Grungebunny: you have to allow this user to login
[11:13] <medfly> i wanna be able to move the mouse with the keyboard, something similar to the windows numpad mouse. does anyone know a way to do it? (or can give me some direction)
[11:13] <aldren> hi all
[11:13] <medfly> maybe i shouldnt be repeating myself so much, but i havent found anyone that knows how to do it yet :(
[11:13] <Grungebunny> so I shouldn't set the password by hand?
[11:14] <Kasle> do anyone know about a good scratch program for ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:14] <Paradox34690> Grunge: I set my users p/w's by hand and they don't have a prob....
[11:14] <medfly> kaske, whats a scratch program?
[11:14] <aldren> has anyone any experience with ipsec-tools ?
[11:14] <Kasle> medfly: u know... what DJ's use
[11:14] <Ben_Cs> Grunge: you should, but there's a place where you put a V for alowing the user to login through splash screen login
[11:14] <jaydoggg> is there a ver or version command that will show my version of ubuntu?
[11:15] <kitche> !version | jaydoggg
[11:15] <ubotu> jaydoggg: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[11:15] <medfly> Kasle, well, if it comforts you, my friend suggested there are some, some time ago.
[11:15] <Paradox34690> Grunge: you could always try setting the password to blank, then let them try to change it, can't you?
[11:15] <Grungebunny> Ben thats what I want to do, allow them to login at the splash screen
[11:15] <Kasle> medfly: what do u mean?
[11:16] <medfly> Kasle, that theres probably something that works.
[11:16] <medfly> Kasle, giving you hope and stuff.
[11:16] <B3nne> Where do I get a nice driver for this: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 3371 (rev 01)
[11:16] <Kasle> medfly: ok... but you don't know about any program?
[11:16] <medfly> Kasle, yeah, just trying to give yous ome hope.
[11:16] <jaydoggg> kitche: thx
[11:16] <Paradox34690> B3nne, is that an onboard card?
[11:16] <hjmills> How does grub reference logical partitions? Does it just keep counting (1,2,3 for the primary then 4,5 for the two logical partitions i have) or does it count the extended partition?
[11:17] <B3nne> yes
[11:17] <jaydoggg> I was wanting to know if i'm running 64bit fiesty
[11:17] <Paradox34690> B3nne, do you know who the manufacturer is of your motherboard?
[11:17] <Ben_Cs> Grunge: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86172   this explains about root but should be the same for another login as well
[11:17] <B3nne> asus or intel, I think
[11:17] <medfly> Kasle, you might wanna saerch the package system, because im getting some potential results by just searching for "audio". see how you like them.
[11:17] <kitche> jaydoggg: uname -a will tell you either it will say i686 or x86_64
[11:18] <tehk> Anyone know why I cannot unhide my gnome panel unless I slide my mouse into the corner? This only happens when using compiz.
[11:18] <Paradox34690> b3nne, I'm assuming that this isn't a laptop that you're on, right?
[11:18] <AlexC__> Hey guys,
[11:18] <B3nne> Paradox34690, no it isnt
[11:18] <jaydoggg> kitche: figures, 64 bit version
[11:18] <jaydoggg> kitche: thx for the commands
[11:19] <AlexC__> I've just plugged my Sandisk Sansa MP3 player in and it reconisied it ok - however when it mounted it mounted it as read-only.... I'm using Feisty and have mounted the mp3 player before - why could it be read-only now?
[11:19] <spheard> orkaudio: error while loading shared libraries: libACE.so.5.4.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:19] <spheard> I have installed all the libace packages
[11:19] <Paradox34690> b3nne, did you just get a pm?
[11:20] <twenty18> hello everyone
[11:20] <B3nne> Paradox34690, no?
[11:20] <aguitel> !drivers
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <aguitel> !driver
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <Ben_Cs> Grunge:   you would like to look in : System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup    aswell
[11:21] <evan_> !tux
[11:21] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[11:22] <Paradox34690> b3nne; okay... no biggie, was going to private chat ya what I would do...   You could go to the computer manufacturer website (provided it's like a Dell or something) and find out all the info you need there. OR, you could just crack open the case (while it's off) and on the motherboard you'll more than likely see the manufacturer of the board and also the model number.
[11:22] <Sergiu1> hello
[11:22] <Sergiu1> i want to ask: does flood ping make damage to local network?
[11:22] <B3nne> paradox34690, thanks
[11:23] <Sergiu1> i do ping -f ip an hour to an ip
[11:23] <Paradox34690> B3nne: No problem, it's at least a start. took me an hour to get my wireless working on my laptop, but have patience, you'll figure it out.
[11:23] <twenty18> I just unstalled ubuntu (for the first time linux) and I'm having a problem: I have to install 106 updates but everytime I want to download them, my computer freezes. Anyone has a clue how to fix this problem?
[11:23] <teknotus> Sergiu1: Why would you want to do that?
[11:24] <Paradox34690> Yes sergiu, it will damage your system... try pinging 128.0.0.1 just to test ;)
[11:24] <Sergiu1> teknotus: i don't know, maybe to check if packages if there are any packages lost
[11:24] <nephish> twenty18_: are you sure your network is connected?
[11:24] <scarrera> hi
[11:24] <Sergiu1> Paradox34690 :) I saw, there where many echo request
[11:24] <nephish> you can get around and firefox and whatnot ?
[11:24] <twenty18> nephish yes my network is recognized and I'm able to surf the net
[11:24] <Sergiu1> Paradox34690: does restart help to exit the flood ?
[11:24] <Sergiu1> :)
[11:25] <ConfidentiaL> first time setting up a linux server, fairly new user to linux, although I got the basics. What do you recommend, feisty server or dapper server? for home use. Quite powerful PC.
[11:25] <bipolar> can someone test this openoffice document for me? on both of my feisty installs it's crashes oo.o. It opens in the windows version (2.2.1) fine, and it reportedly works fine in the gutsy version too. http://longbros.com/test.ods
[11:25] <nephish> twenty18_: try it from the command line. type sudo apt-get update    then   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade . let us know what happens
[11:25] <Paradox34690> Sergiu, i'd hope so... 128.0.0.1 is just your internal IP address (a loopback)... But no, ping flood won't damage anything physically, but it will EAT UP your bandwidth.
[11:25] <B3nne> well, now i figured out what graphic card i have, can someone help me find a nice driver for this: UniChrome Pro 3D Graphics 64 MB
[11:25] <Sergiu1> Paradox34690: and my connection with network now is very bad
[11:26] <Sergiu1> :(
[11:26] <Paradox34690> Serg, i'd just reboot your router.
[11:26] <lImItaO> someone knows how to add a border to a layer in Gimp?
[11:26] <B3nne> well, now i figured out what graphic card i have, can someone help me find a nice driver for this: UniChrome Pro 3D Graphics 64 MB
[11:27] <Sergiu1> Paradox34690: i-m afraied there were many routers
[11:27] <Sergiu1> Paradox34690: join on ubuntu-offtopic
[11:27] <Sergiu1> to speak there
[11:27] <twenty18> nephish tnx a lot
[11:27] <twenty18> I'll try it out
[11:28] <twenty18> is the command line something like terminal ?
[11:28] <nephish> twenty18_: are you using fiesty ? ubuntu 7.04 cd ?
[11:28] <twenty18> I'm using mac at the moment
[11:28] <Paradox34690> b3nne:  seriously... invest in a new card, you won't get too much out of it. you *might* be able to pick up a cheap 128meg GForce FX 5500 for about $100 at a radioshack, good luck though cause finding AGP cards is getting harder and harder these days.
[11:28] <gonzaloaf_work> hi, how to configure the sound card in ubuntu?
[11:28] <gonzaloaf_work> !sound
[11:28] <twenty18> nephish 7.04
[11:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:28] <nephish> twenty18_: shoud be ok then
[11:28] <nephish> just let us know
[11:29] <B3nne> paradoc34690, my economy is very low at the moment
[11:29] <Paradox34690> Sergiu1: Nah bro... i'm fine right here ;) sorry guy.   Don't be afraid, just do a power cycle on your main router. That should take care of it.
[11:29] <howlingmadhowie> bipolar: works okay for me :)
[11:29] <B3nne> paradox34690, my economy is very low at the moment so please help me find a nice driver for it.
[11:29] <nephish> is it my location or are the forums loading really slow?
[11:29] <bipolar> howlingmadhowie: running gnome?
[11:30] <Paradox34690> B3nne: Hmmm, well...   try doing a google on it.
[11:30] <B3nne> Paradox34690, i did it did not result in something good.
[11:31] <howlingmadhowie> bipolar: i am :) though that shouldn't make a difference. there are some funny values in settings.xml inside the file, but apart from that, it looks okay
[11:31] <Vinchenzo28> how do i change the splash screen in 7.04
[11:31] <quasar8888> HELP !!! I am a complete Ubuntu / Linux dummy but I HATE MS where do I start learning about Ubuntu ???
[11:32] <Paradox34690> Vinchenzo28: go look at www.gnome-look.org
[11:32] <Xoris> quasar8888: hating MS is not a requirement to get support on this channel. still,
[11:32] <Xoris> !documentation
[11:32] <bipolar> howlingmadhowie: yeah... I replaced everything but content.xml with a known good file. whatever the problem is, it's in content.xml
[11:32] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[11:32] <rockets> In the description of the ubuntu-desktop package it says "It is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that it not be removed." Does that mean package upgrades in general, or just upgrades between different releases, e.g. feisty to gutsy?
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> is there a visual app that can find duplicate files on your system?
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> rockets: its release upgrades
[11:33] <howlingmadhowie> bipolar: content.xml works fine with me
[11:33] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[11:33] <rockets> fyrestrtr, ok, well i always install the newest version off cd, I don't upgrade
[11:33] <Drk_Guy> I have a problem here
[11:33] <rockets> so im safe in that case right
[11:33] <Paradox34690> B3nne: I haven't forgot ya... i'm still searching.
[11:33] <Wuffelz> i heard you have a bot?
[11:33] <Wuffelz> is this true
[11:33] <Drk_Guy> I need someone to tell me which are the contents of the standard 7.04 ISO
[11:33] <B3nne> Paradox34690, thanks for helping me =)
[11:34] <ozzloy> i just installed fusion.  when i alt+tab, it skips over 2 windows, how do i fix that?
[11:34] <Paradox34690> B3nne: *is* that a dell?
[11:34] <bipolar> howlingmadhowie: yep... it seems it's only on kubuntu.... at least until someone in #kubuntu gets back with an 'it works' message... then it's just on my two systems.
[11:34] <Drk_Guy> I need someone to tell me which are the contents of the standard 7.04 ISO
[11:35] <rockets> fyrestrtr, try kleansweep
[11:35] <howlingmadhowie> bipolar: mm, strange. xmllint --debug content.xml seems to be okay.
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> rockets: is that a kde app?
[11:35] <rockets> fyrestrtr, also komparator
[11:35] <B3nne> Paradox34690,no it is not, it is this one the site is on swedish but i could not fins anyone else : http://www.ammdata.se/index.php?target=products&product_id=29791
[11:35] <rockets> fyrestrtr, yeah it is but itll work just fine in gnome
[11:35] <JanWinnicki> hello
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> oh I'm sure it will
[11:35] <Wuffelz> wheres the bought
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> just need to mind my libs :)
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> thanks.
[11:35] <Drk_Guy> I need someone to tell me which are the contents of the standard 7.04 ISO
[11:35] <Wuffelz> must...harass..BOT
[11:35] <rockets> fyrestrtr, you refuse to have any Qt or KDE libs installed?
[11:35] <Drk_Guy> Calm down on Ubotu Wuffelz
[11:36] <Drk_Guy> Take it easy man
[11:36] <Paradox34690> B3nne: that'll do... I can make out what I need :) Asus S775 P4M900 motherboard :)
[11:36] <kr00lplatinum> Will the ADI AD1986A audio chipset be supported by ubuntu?
[11:37] <howlingmadhowie> bipolar: if that's a bug in oocalc, it really is a showstopper
[11:37] <bipolar> howlingmadhowie: I've confirmed it crashes another box I have here, running kubuntu feisty... I just need one or two outside tests....
[11:37] <ubuntu_noob> Good day to all
[11:37] <Wuffelz> cant calm
[11:37] <Wuffelz> hey wait
[11:37] <Wuffelz> i have a question
[11:37] <Wuffelz> bout ubuntu
[11:37] <Drk_Guy> Why not Wuffelz
[11:37] <Wuffelz> i installed ubuntu feisty on my extern
[11:38] <howlingmadhowie> bipolar: well, i can only confirm it opens fine in a virtual machine running ubuntu.
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> rockets: no, there are some things I compiled so I need to keep an eye on what libs are installed where.
[11:38] <Wuffelz> external hard drive
[11:38] <Wuffelz> and
[11:38] <Wuffelz> when it loads up
[11:38] <Wuffelz> after install
[11:38] <Wuffelz> it shuts down the hd
[11:38] <rockets> fyrestrtr, ah yeah. I try to stick to the repos as much as possible
[11:38] <Wuffelz> because its stupid! it hates me :*
[11:38] <jeward> I'm ready to burn a CD to load on my PS3.  I need a PPC versikon, right?
[11:38] <Wuffelz> it desent love me :*(
[11:38] <bipolar> howlingmadhowie: thanks for the help :)
[11:38] <Wuffelz> WHY DOESENT IT LOVE ME :'(
[11:38] <ubuntu_noob> Actually, nevermind.
[11:38] <Drk_Guy> !enter | Wuffelz
[11:38] <ubotu> Wuffelz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> rockets: and amazingly, apt-cache didn't bring up any non-kde apps for 'file duplicates'
[11:38] <rockets> heh
[11:38] <nosmoke7804> what filesystem should I use for my ubuntu partition?
[11:39] <fyrestrtr> Wuffelz: you'll get some love from an op's boots if you keep that up.
[11:39] <Wuffelz> UBOTU!!
[11:39] <Drk_Guy> nosmoke7804: It depends on what do you want
[11:39] <Wuffelz> meh
[11:39] <georgy28> nosmoke7804, : ext3
[11:39] <Wuffelz> ill just get a proxy
[11:39] <Wuffelz> im out
[11:39] <fyrestrtr> nosmoke7804: what is wrong with the default fs?
[11:39] <Wuffelz> i came here to harass bots..
[11:39] <Wuffelz> they told me on the fedora forum..
[11:39] <nosmoke7804> I need to partition my hardisk for a dual boot with xp
[11:39] <Wuffelz> well
[11:39] <Xoris> !ops | wuffelz
[11:39] <ubotu> wuffelz: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:39] <RaverWild> hello. first time trying to use firewall on linux. installed firestarter. problem is: could i command firewall to permit traffic from/to a certain application?
[11:39] <Wuffelz> ubuntu doesent like me or my ehd
[11:39] <Wuffelz> so im out!
[11:39] <fyrestrtr> !dual > nosmoke7804
[11:39] <Drk_Guy> With Ext3 you can't read your partition from Windowze (IFS Driver), but you get journaling
[11:39] <nosmoke7804> using partition magic i can choose different ones
[11:40] <ProN00b> how do i unpack a bunch of zip files to the same location ?
[11:40] <Xoris> Drk_Guy: oh yes you can
[11:40] <Drk_Guy> Nope
[11:40] <Xoris> Drk_Guy: ext3 is backwards-compatible with ext2... meaning, readable as ext2
[11:40] <Xoris> yep
[11:40] <PriceChild> Xoris, ?
[11:40] <Drk_Guy> I formatted my Linux partition as Ext3 and Windowze stopped reading ti
[11:40] <Drk_Guy> *it
[11:40] <gonzaloaf_work> hi. why I cant use "alsaconf" in ubuntu?
[11:40] <nosmoke7804> don't I need a swap disk also?
[11:41] <jrib> ProN00b: I would do:  cd /path/to/location; for file in /paths/to/bunch/of/zips; do unzip $file; done
[11:41] <Xoris> PriceChild, he's gone. but he said he'd just come back with a proxy, since he was told an op would have banned him if he went on
[11:41] <MasterShrek> Drk_Guy, dont use windows, and u wont have any problems :)
[11:41] <z1pp3r> im using the guide from the wiki about how to recover grub. Ive found and mounted my linux partition, but when i try to run "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda" it just stalls. What gives?
[11:41] <PriceChild> Xoris, ah i see now sorry :)
[11:41] <Drk_Guy> nosmoke7804: Let the installer do it's job
[11:41] <B3nne> Paradox34690, have you forgot me?
[11:41] <Paradox34690> B3nne: still here?
[11:41] <Paradox34690> heheh, nope, i haven't
[11:41] <nosmoke7804> Drk_Guy: isn't it better do that from windows xp?
[11:41] <Drk_Guy> MasterShrek: I only use Windowze in case sith happens
[11:41] <gonzaloaf_work> hi. why I cant use "alsaconf" in ubuntu?
[11:41] <nosmoke7804> If something goes wrong, nothing happends to my xp install...
[11:41] <Drk_Guy> No nosmoke7804
[11:42] <ChaosMachine> gonzaloaf_work what are you trying to conf in alsaconf?
[11:42] <Drk_Guy> gonzaloaf_work: Try using alsamixer
[11:42] <Drk_Guy> Or...
[11:42] <Xoris> Drk_Guy, i can read my ext3 partitions using ext2explorer or whatever it's called. not sure about the IFS driver, maybe it's bugged.
[11:42] <B3nne> Paradox34690, yeap
[11:42] <Cod1> I'm trying to start virtualbox, And I get some kind of permission error?
[11:42] <Paradox34690> B3nne: I'm looking at Asus's site for that board (P5VD2-VM) And unfortunately, it seems as though that board was designed specifically with MS Vista in mind... :(
[11:42] <Drk_Guy> There is a GUI for configuring alsa sound somewhere
[11:42] <ChaosMachine> Cod1 Start it with sudo?
[11:42] <jrib> Cod1: is your user a member of the "vboxusers" group?
[11:42] <gonzaloaf_work> Dragnslcr, ChaosMachine, In debian I used to use alsaconf to configure my soundcard
[11:43] <B3nne> i hate vista
[11:43] <Cod1> no jrib, how do I do that?
[11:43] <Drk_Guy> Xoris
[11:43] <Drk_Guy> Im with you B
[11:43] <Paradox34690> B3nne: The only 2 drivers that hey have for linux and that particular motherboard is for LAN and RAID...
[11:43] <Drk_Guy> B3nme
[11:43] <jrib> Cod1: sudo adduser YOUR_USERNAME vboxusers     and then logout and back in
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> gonzaloaf_work: install alsa-utils
[11:43] <gonzaloaf_work> fyrestrtr, I already have alsa-utils, but I cant find alsaconf
[11:43] <Cod1> how do I log back in / out
[11:43] <Cod1> just close the program?
[11:44] <boxrock___>  i'm having a problem w/7.04 hanging intermittently (console GUI hangs, net hangs, (shell commands work however)), anyone have clues on how to diagnose?
[11:44] <jrib> Cod1: system -> quit  I think
[11:44] <georgy28> gonzaloaf_work, : you have to install alsa-base or alsa-tools
[11:44] <Paradox34690> B3nne: I'm still looking though, cause it looks like there's a different version of that board too... OR you could check out S3's website (or VIA)
[11:44] <B3nne>  Paradox34690, i dont understand i had drivers for my graphic card before i re installed ubuntu.
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> boxrock___: run a memcheck
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> gonzaloaf_work: its in alsa-utils
[11:45] <boxrock___> fyrestrtr, i tried that, i'll try again...
[11:45] <gonzaloaf_work> georgy28, , I already have alsa-tools, but I cant find alsaconf
[11:45] <Paradox34690> B3nne: I got it! :)
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> boxrock___: are you using accelerated graphics / compiz ?
[11:45] <B3nne> Paradox34690, =)=)
[11:45] <gonzaloaf_work> fyrestrtr, but when I execute alsaconf, the command is not found
[11:45] <Megatron> hello, i need help with enabling SNMP in my Linksys WAG200G router anyone?
[11:45] <Drk_Guy> Xoris, give me a link for Ext2Explorer (If it's ain't in sourceforge, it's nowhere)
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> gonzaloaf_work: do you have a /usr/sbin/alsaconf ?
[11:46] <IndyLucian> How do I use apt-get to only download a peice of software with all necessary dependencies to a specific location on my drive?
[11:46] <clouder> What should I do when X stop responding completely and all I can do is move my mouse.  alt-ctrl-bkspace doesn't do anything and alt-ctrl-f1-12 doesn't do anything either.  All I can do is reboot, any other alternative?
[11:46] <gonzaloaf_work> fyrestrtr, alsa-utils, do not include alsaconf
[11:46] <Drk_Guy> Can anyone tell me the contents of an standard Feisty ISO
[11:46] <boxrock___> fyrestrtr, i tried loading VIA drivers (unsuccessfully) yesterday....
[11:46] <Xoris> Drk_Guy, the problem is that my connection is being extremely slow - like i can barely load google
[11:46] <gonzaloaf_work> fyrestrtr, nop
[11:46] <Drk_Guy> WoW
[11:46] <Xoris> Drk_Guy: uhm, explore2fs i think
[11:46] <gonzaloaf_work> fyrestrtr, I dont have it because alsa-utils doesnt include alsaconf
[11:46] <Drk_Guy> I'll goolge it
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> are you sure?
[11:47] <IndyLucian> ?
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, strange.
[11:47] <Drk_Guy> Got it xoris
[11:47] <jrib> clouder: hold down alt-sysrq and press RSEIUB in sequence is a little nicer than just hitting reboot, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_Skinny_Elephants_Is_Utterly_Boring
[11:47] <Paradox34690> B3nne: Go to www.asus.com (for whatever language is native to you), go to 'download' at the top of the screen and on the next page, off to the left, search for P5VD2-VM SE.  You'll get some results that you can limit down to whatever OS you're using (linux). When you open up VGA, you'll see this:  VIA P4M900 VGA driver for Linux.    Here's a direct link: http://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/misc/vga/VIA/VIA_Chrome9_VGA_Linux.
[11:48] <jrib> clouder: I assume you can't actually click on stuff with the mouse
[11:48] <clouder> jrib: correct
[11:48] <B3nne> Paradox34690, thank you very very much, ;D
[11:48] <Bakefy> Hello, I am starting to work on a website that is entirely css and php.  My knowlege of both of them is below par.  Is there an editor that is suggested?  Currently I am just using "gedit"
[11:48] <georgy28> gonzaloaf_work, : after verification, alsaconf don't exist in a alsa package for ubuntu, strange !
[11:49] <Drk_Guy> Got it working now
[11:49] <Drk_Guy> Thanks Xoris
[11:49] <Drk_Guy> Good tip
[11:49] <Paradox34690> B3nne: No problem... Just do yourself a favor, burn that sucker off to cd or something so you don't ever lose it ;)
[11:49] <B3nne> ;)
[11:49] <needhelp> Hi, I have two computers connected to a router. One of them doesnt recieve an IP. How do I fix it ?
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> jrib: that's a good one.
[11:49] <Xoris> Drk_Guy: i wouldn't try to *write* to it in any case, just to be on the safe side
[11:49] <paradizelost> needhelp: could be several things
[11:49] <skinnypuppy_1334> Fiesty from dapper, now no browsing windows machines though they appear in the network. Try to open to see what is shared and get a message cannot display folder contents... any ideas?
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> needhelp: are they both ubuntu?
[11:49] <Drk_Guy> Thx for that tip too
[11:49] <needhelp> fyrestrtr: yes, both ubuntu 704
[11:50] <ChaosMachine> Bakefy there are many editors for linux that will highlight and color-code css and php, although I cant remember any examples (I think kate is one..) you'll have to do some searching and find one you like.
[11:50] <Paradox34690> B3nne: I hope that works out for you guy.  Enjoy!
[11:50] <ChaosMachine> Bakefy or you can just stick with good old gmacs.
[11:50] <paradizelost> ChaosMachine: ahve you tried gvim?
[11:50] <gonzaloaf_work> georgy28, yeah!, so how can I configure my sound in Ubuntu?
[11:50] <Drk_Guy> ChaosMachine: Geany highlights that kind of stuff
[11:50] <Bakefy> are there any out there that will try and autofill my tag?
[11:50] <Drk_Guy> It might be on sourceforge (I think)
[11:50] <skinnypuppy_1334> I have samba installed but can't see what is shared on windows xp computers on the lan. 7.04
[11:51] <Paradox34690> my work here is done for the day. Time to make dinner :D
[11:51] <ChaosMachine> paradizelost I have some old, bad experiances with vim and stay away from it. (dislike for old software dies hard, even as they upgrade by leaps and bounds.)
[11:51] <georgy28> gonzaloaf_work, : what card do you have ?
[11:51] <needhelp> Paradox34690: can you tell some things to look for? I've been trying now for 12 hours, both with wireless and cable
[11:51] <Bakefy> ChaosMachine, thanks.  Do you know of any that will operate close to Dreamweaver?
[11:51] <Borat> hey, does anyone know how to erase your wireless keys?
[11:51] <gonzaloaf_work> georgy28, I just want to know how to do it for all cases
[11:51] <Drk_Guy> ChaosMachine:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/geany
[11:51] <skinnypuppy_1334> Browsing an XP share from 7.04 on lan anyone?
[11:51] <fyrestrtr> Bakefy: try nvu and screem
[11:51] <Drk_Guy> Bakefy: Try using Wine on it
[11:52] <Drk_Guy> Or maybe Bluefish
[11:52] <Bakefy> thanks guys!
[11:52] <fyrestrtr> Bakefy: nvu and bluefish are two that are like dreamweaver.
[11:52] <ChaosMachine> Bakefy oh god no, much the wrong person to ask for that sort of thing. You cant take away my codeing and give me yucky gui and misplaced <div>s.
[11:52] <georgy28> gonzaloaf_work, : ho, I really don't know, just look at alsa-project.org to have some information
[11:52] <fyrestrtr> Bakefy: screem is specifically for web development.
[11:53] <Drk_Guy> Can anyone tell me the exact contents of an *STANDARD* Feisty ISO
[11:53] <Drk_Guy> =?
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> Drk_Guy: why?
[11:53] <skinnypuppy_1334> Anyone else have probs with feisty browsing XP shares on lan?
[11:53] <Drk_Guy> I'm confused
[11:53] <Bakefy> well I will just have to install them both!
[11:54] <Bakefy> thanks for the help.
[11:54] <Drk_Guy> My Ubuntu ISO is filled up with Obsolete Ubuntu Folders
[11:54] <boxrock___> skinnypuppy, did u try smbclient -L xp-ip-addr?
[11:54] <needhelp> Can someone please help me? I have two computers connected to a router. One of them doesnt recieve an IP. I've been trying both with wireless and with cable for 12 hours now, but neither works
[11:54] <CheeseGardner> Could someone give me a hand trying to recover this old windoze box?
[11:54] <Drk_Guy> I mean Tons of folders named "Ubuntu"
[11:54] <Drk_Guy> CheeseGardner: Give me 5
[11:54] <CheeseGardner> ok, I'll brb
[11:54] <CheeseGardner> gonna log in
[11:54] <skinnypuppy_1334> boxrock, no what does that command do? the xp box isn't static ip
[11:55] <Borat> hey, does anyone know how to erase your wireless keys?
[11:55] <Drk_Guy> CheeseGardener: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:55] <Drk_Guy> Hope that helps CheeseGardner
[11:56] <wousser> what is a commonly used python IDE for Linux?
[11:56] <Vinchenzo28> whats the directory to add xmms skins?
[11:56] <CheeseGardener> Ok, I'm back.
[11:56] <hjmills> wousser, i use gedit
[11:56] <jrib> Vinchenzo28: ~/.xmms/Skins
[11:56] <Vinchenzo28> thanks
[11:56] <CheeseGardener> So, if anyone isn't busy, I'd appreciate a hand trying to set this puppy up.
[11:56] <kingKonqueror> Borat, they are under ~/.gnome2/ somewhere... lemme try to find the exact spot
[11:56] <Drk_Guy> CheeseGardener: What's up?
[11:56] <Drk_Guy> I might be able to help ya
[11:56] <CheeseGardener> IM me, so I don't take up the channel space.
[11:57] <Drk_Guy> Ok
[11:57] <CheeseGardener> Cause it could get text heavy.
[11:57] <RiCCo69> I have a new install of ubuntu with a few options installed. I just installed limewire but all i get is a blanc page. I cant see the lettering. it's the same on face book in certin area's am I missing a plug in? anyone run into this before?
[11:58] <wousser> hjmills: i know gedit but i was wondering if there was anything more used
[11:58] <RiCCo69> how do i update java? or active x and all that shit
[11:58] <B3nne> PARADOX6490, can i ask you one more thing, now i have the driver in a rar. file but how do i install it?
[11:58] <RiCCo69> maybe that's it
[11:58] <deathnall> hey guys n gals
[11:59] <needhelp> Does anyone here know some about networking, or is this wrong channel?
[11:59] <deathnall> i have a question. how do i stop ubuntu from startingup with a crap resolution. i have to change it all the time in nvidia panel and its doing my head in?
[11:59] <jerkface03> Hey I'm trying to use the dialog command in bash to show up a dialog, but it keeps showing me a command not found message. My computer is running ubuntu server, does anyone know why this is happening?
[11:59] <cristy> could anyone give me a sugestion of a software that should help me to extract multiple .rar files resulted from downloading a torrent?
[11:59] <kitche> deathnall: your not saving your resolution in nvidia-settins most likely
[11:59] <cristy> i've tried with unrar but it doesn't work
[11:59] <Xoris> cristy: just script it
[12:00] <Borat> kingKonqueror, thanks for helping
[12:00] <hjmills> wousser, use plugins for whatever editor you use to make it fit how you work. Plugins rule...
[12:00] <erUSUL> !unrar | cristy
[12:00] <ubotu> cristy: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:00] <deathnall> i do save them but i heard i need to change the ubuntu file or sumin
[12:00] <Xoris> crimsun: yes it does... for File in *.rar; do unrar x "$File"; done
[12:00] <erUSUL> cristy: use unrar non-free
[12:00] <wousser> oke, will take a look, thanks
[12:01] <RiCCo69> what program do you guys use to d-loadmusic with. limewire doesn't seem to work with mine