[12:27] <Lunis> anyone know how to make scite save preferences such as using monospace font or showing linenumbers by default? .scite.properties and scite.properties don't work for some reason :<
[01:09] <nikolam> hmm hi
[01:09] <nikolam> I just forced package version in synaptic
[01:09] <nikolam> and I want to get back to newer version again
[01:09] <nikolam> How to undo force version
[01:34] <cellofellow> If I specify VideoRam on a video card that already has some, will that override the ram on the card or will it just add to it?
[01:47] <Pumpernickel> cellofellow: For the most part, that value is just ignored.
[02:07] <cellofellow> yeah, I know s3virge ignores it.
[02:10] <cellofellow> If a monitor just goes black when I turn on X, does that mean the refresh rates are too-something?
[02:12] <cellofellow> The power light just blinks and the monitor goes black. Refresh too high?
[02:14] <cellofellow> Found it. I was right.
[02:17] <kb0rpj-wx> anyone here fimilar with shared folders?
[02:18] <dj_martin_k> no me
[02:18] <dj_martin_k> im just here asking for a problem with the live cd
[02:19] <vidd> what is the issue?
[02:20] <dj_martin_k> my live cd boots wrong...
[02:20] <dj_martin_k> i dont know whats happening...
[02:20] <vidd> what do you mean "boots wrong"?
[02:21] <dj_martin_k> when it boots on xfce, it doesnt shows the up/down bars and the mouse doesnt move
[02:22] <dj_martin_k> it just freezes
[02:22] <dj_martin_k> sorry my bad english
[02:23] <dj_martin_k> i'm from argentina
[02:24] <vidd> how much ram do you have?
[02:24] <dj_martin_k> 192MB
[02:24] <dj_martin_k> and 1ghz proccessor pentium III model
[02:29] <vidd> i think you might want to use the alt cd
[02:29] <dj_martin_k> but i have 64 kbps connection
[02:30] <dj_martin_k> and down the live cd costs 4 weeks on torrent
[02:30] <dj_martin_k> thank you
[02:30] <vidd> then try the mini iso
[02:30] <dj_martin_k> ill try anothe distro
[02:31] <dj_martin_k> i have to go
[02:32] <Rockinghorse> another satisfied customer
[02:46] <Lunis`Away> JESUS! why, xfce, do you open media player when i plug in my psp, and how can i make you not do that D:
[02:49] <kb0rpj-wx>  vidd : i've told it i want to share /var/www on my system.. i selected windows.. but i can't see the folder on my windows pc
[02:49] <kb0rpj-wx> i see the second computer running linux.. but i can't see the /var/www folder
[02:50] <zials> you use: System -> Shared Folders?
[02:50] <kb0rpj-wx> yup
[02:51] <vidd> kb0rpj-wx, i dont know anything about shared folders
[02:52] <zials> ... and, when you go to the workgroup/domain, do you see it?
[02:52] <kb0rpj-wx> i see the computer.. but not the folder
[02:53] <zials> ... not sure what you mean by that
[02:53] <kb0rpj-wx> on my windows.. pc i see.. mshome  -> xubuntu  but no folders
[02:53] <zials> ahh
[02:53] <zials> and, you have /var/www as shared and shared through 'Windows netword (SMB'
[02:54] <kb0rpj-wx> yes
[02:57] <zials> urgh... well, not sure what the problem is... have you checked http://ubuntuguide.org ?
[03:00] <kb0rpj-wx> not yet.. but i will thanks
[03:01] <kb0rpj-wx> ok.. let me ask more question tonight.. how do i setup something to start when the computer comes up.. i want to be able to make sure eggdrop is starting on startup
[03:02] <zials> mhmm, you have to modify the rc something file
[03:02] <kb0rpj-wx> i downloaded the launcher package
[03:02] <kb0rpj-wx> but i'm not sure on the flags
[03:03] <kb0rpj-wx> it says launcher [[[--all]  [--nowait]  [--type] 
[03:04] <kb0rpj-wx> it says launcher [[[--all]  [--nowait]  [--type]  | [--showtypes]  [--compressed]  | [--help]  | [--verison]  filename | url
[03:04] <kb0rpj-wx> so can i just do launcher /home/glen/eggdrop/eggdrop eggdrop.conf ?
[03:08] <zials> you use the terminal to start eggdrop right?
[03:20] <kb0rpj-wx> yup
[04:21] <sutabi> anyone know of any tool that will help me fine which folder are taking up the most room on my harddrive?
[04:22] <Catoptromancy> heh i use right click
[04:22] <Catoptromancy> not very fast, but very effective
[04:24] <qudama> anyone knows what's network monitor in xubuntu? like knemo in kubuntu
[04:25] <sutabi> I know there is a commandline banwidth tracker that lets you see how much in/out is going on
[04:26] <qudama> what is the name?
[04:26] <qudama> command line?
[04:27] <sutabi> yeah cli, im looking for the name now
[04:27] <qudama> ok
[04:28] <Ramla_> sutabi: try fiddling with du, du -hcs * in a folder would view the sizes of each target folder and file in the working directory
[04:28] <Ramla_> without subfolders
[04:28] <sutabi> qudama - bwm
[04:28] <Ramla_> I'm pretty sure there's a better tool though
[04:29] <sutabi> sudo apt-get install bwm
[04:30] <qudama> ok, can I see my in/out daily traffic on that?
[04:30] <sutabi> qudama yes
[04:30] <qudama> ok
[04:30] <sutabi> in a terminal just type bwm and it will show you the in/out
[04:31] <qudama> sutabi-thank 4 info
[04:31] <sutabi> np
[05:32] <mattgyver83> is anybody not afk?
[05:50] <Lunis`Away> http://xkcd.com/149/ D:!!!!!!!
[05:50] <Lunis`Away> eye are am nt afking.
[05:51] <maxamillion> Lunis`Away: yes, xkcd dominates :)
[07:23] <Lunis`Away> mayes :<
[07:23] <Lunis`Away> dead
[07:23] <Lunis`Away> god damn emotional hooks D:
[07:25] <maxamillion> !language | Lunis`Away
[07:25] <ubotu> Lunis`Away: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:33] <WheelDweller> Is it quiet in here, or is it just me?  (It's been a REALLY long time since I was on IRC...)
[07:34] <Lunis`Away> fairly quiet
[07:36] <mattgyver83> is anyone not currently afk?
[07:36] <maxamillion> !ask | mattgyver83
[07:36] <ubotu> mattgyver83: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:36] <WheelDweller> I'm here, kinda.  :)
[07:36] <WheelDweller> Catching up on my reading...
[07:36] <mattgyver83> sorry, everytime i show, everyones afk ';)
[07:37] <maxamillion> mattgyver83: yeah, alot of our regular community members have been busy with real life lately (myself included) ... what's up?
[07:37] <WheelDweller> This is my first time here...not new to Linux, but very new to IRC.  And, I'm using GAIM.  We'll see how that goes.
[07:37] <mattgyver83> im having a problem with synaptic in Xubuntu, it continues to prompt me to load the Xubuntu CD into the drive to install packages.
[07:37] <maxamillion> mattgyver83: www.irssi.org <--- the irc client from the gods
[07:37] <maxamillion> :)
[07:38] <Lunis`Away> i like xchat ;)
[07:38] <Lunis`Away> but not the gnome one
[07:38] <WheelDweller> Yeah, and FOR the gods, I'd imagine.  I just wanna talk...not get fancy.
[07:38] <maxamillion> WheelDweller: check out xchat
[07:38] <Lunis`Away> mattgyver83, in synaptic, go to your sourced and uncheck the box next to the CDROM
[07:39] <WheelDweller> I imagine a lot of changes have taken place since I was last in IRC.  Lotsa new bots, etc.
[07:39] <Lunis`Away> WheelDweller, probably
[07:39] <WheelDweller> (I'll be quiet now so you guys can work.)
[07:39] <maxamillion> WheelDweller: in here? ... shouldn't be, i believe only ubotu is allowed
[07:39] <WheelDweller> ?
[07:40] <Lunis`Away> WheelDweller, he means bots
[07:40] <maxamillion> ubotu is the only bot allowed in official *buntu irc channels
[07:41] <WheelDweller> Well, I was thinking about all the developments to various bots (not specifically here) since I was on.  I was using Xchat, I think, last time....or Ksirc.  Been years.
[07:41] <WheelDweller> Just a sec....
[07:41] <Lunis`Away> yeah eggdrop bots have support for most any language, and most SQL engines now
[07:41] <mattgyver83> Lunis'Away, would you be speaking of in the Third-Party Software tab?
[07:42] <maxamillion> WheelDweller: i think you are confusing the term 'bot' with the term 'client'
[07:42] <Lunis`Away> mattgyver83, hold on, i'll tell you specifically, let me fire it up
[07:42] <mattgyver83> Thank you very much.
[07:42] <WheelDweller> OK, back.   Not specifically- just pointing out that a lot of development has gone 'under the bridge' since I was last on, and that makes it a new world for me. (Here, or otherwise)
[07:44] <WheelDweller> I just came tonight to get the lay of the land- I *hope* I'm about to get a lot more professional Linux time, soon.  I figured it was time to 'join up' as it were with the other developers.
[07:44] <WheelDweller> Has anyone worked out the "HostObject" thing in LDAP?  I just want to patch my LDAP, then document it, and start making copies for various clients in the future.
[07:45] <WheelDweller> (The "hostObject auxilliary class".  Sounds like Java.  :>)
[07:46] <maxamillion> WheelDweller: can't say i have had any experience with it
[07:46] <Lunis`Away> mattgyver83, click Settings->Repositories
[07:46] <mattgyver83> Okay
[07:46] <WheelDweller> It's very interesting...yet another server to config; it's a clever little thing....but it's SO very flexible it's hard to learn.  At least for me.
[07:47] <WheelDweller> Is anyone using Compiz/Beryl on a daily basis,  yet?
[07:47] <maxamillion> WheelDweller: yes and no ....
[07:48] <maxamillion> WheelDweller: i used _old_ beryl for a while, then it annoyed me .. then i tried new beryl and used it for a while but then it annoyed me ...
[07:48] <WheelDweller> I was just thinking that if it was "demo ready" it'd be nice to set it up and show off.  I understand the time it takes to make these things work...look how long Enlightenment version....17?  has been in the works.  :>
[07:48] <Lunis`Away> WheelDweller, I was in Feisty, and it worked pretty good. I am on Gutsy now and it DOES NOT WORK at all... or at least not very well :)
[07:48] <maxamillion> WheelDweller: but i used each daily for about a month each and it was stable enough to be tollerable
[07:49] <WheelDweller> ...probably too much changing at the same time.  Oh, well, it'll get better.
[07:49] <Lunis`Away> mattgyver83, did you get it fixed?
[07:49] <maxamillion> Lunis`Away: well beryl is dead and compiz is going to re-release as 'compiz fusion' because they are merging all the code right now
[07:49] <mattgyver83> Im actually about to find out, but i think i might have
[07:50] <mattgyver83> hopefully it doesnt crash, ive been having that problem, but it could be due to that
[07:51] <Lunis`Away> D: now i have to re get used to things again. curse it all. oh well, i'm quite good with xfce compositioning. simple, unintrusive, and still sexy
[07:51] <mattgyver83> for some reason when i search for a package, it becomes unresponsive
[07:51] <Lunis`Away> mattgyver83, in xfce? mine does that too for a minute. will hang after i enter a password in gksu for like 3 minutes :x
[07:51] <mattgyver83> Though, earlier, i was able to search and find the package in question. The only issue was that it was telling me to install via cdrom
[07:51] <mattgyver83> Yeah, xfce
[07:52] <mattgyver83> This is my first run with Xubuntu, im use to regular ubuntu
[07:52] <mattgyver83> I had to run DSL prior on this machine, its got some pretty old hardware
[07:53] <WheelDweller> How old?  (I've been stranded in a no-tech town...)
[07:53] <mattgyver83> Well.. its a toshiba tecra 8000 Laptop, P2
[07:53] <mattgyver83> Only 128ram
[07:53] <maxamillion> mattgyver83: yes, its going to lag horribly
[07:54] <mattgyver83> That much i expect
[07:54] <mattgyver83> but earlier it wasnt doing this
[07:54] <mattgyver83> i think, .... i happend...
[07:54] <maxamillion> mattgyver83: i have only ever used synaptic once and it was just to see how good it was .... on an athlon64 3200+ w/ 1gb of ram i wanted to cry at how horribly it lagged
[07:54] <maxamillion> and thus, i never used it again
[07:55] <mattgyver83> now, would i experience horrible lag as well through apt-get?
[07:55] <mattgyver83> (it just found the package)
[07:55] <WheelDweller> Yeah, synaptic's a hog these days.  Aptitude's the every day. aye?
[07:55] <maxamillion> mattgyver83: no, you shouldn't experience lag through apt-get or aptitude
[07:55] <maxamillion> WheelDweller: yes, i use aptitude daily ... i don't like administering my system from a gui
[07:56] <maxamillion> but then again linux has been my primary operating system for 8 years
[07:56] <WheelDweller> Once in a while, I do; it's easier to look for applications from the add/remove panel, but even then it's a slow process.
[07:56] <maxamillion> anyhoo ... bed time
[07:56] <maxamillion> WheelDweller: not really ... apt-cache and aptitude have wonderful search functions
[07:56] <mattgyver83> Linus'Away; its working perfectly now, thanks for your help on that matter.
[07:57] <maxamillion> laters all
[07:57] <WheelDweller> Yeah, me too...I think I started in...94?  Something like that.  Slackware 2.3.  Nasty.  :>
[07:57] <mattgyver83> Is their anyway to "lighten the load" to reduce some of the lag?
[07:58] <WheelDweller> Memory helps; doing it on a RAID disk helps...
[07:58] <WheelDweller> (both add/remove and synaptic)
[07:59] <mattgyver83> Its really not as bad as i imagined.... for some reason, ubuntu itself just wouldnt work.
[07:59] <WheelDweller> Hmm.
[08:00] <mattgyver83> Im pretty new to linux, so i dont know if it had anything to do with Gnome or what.  DSL i was able to configure but its a pain in the butt to maintain.
[08:00] <WheelDweller> I just put Dapper in my trailer; someone left a Celeron 400 out on the stoop...I stripped it, it's fanless, and right now it's the "avionics" of my trailer.  Sweet little deal.  Right now it just turns on a fan when the hardware closet gets too hot, but later it'll be fun.
[08:01] <WheelDweller> Yeah, if the DSL isn't a fixed address, it's always a pain.
[08:01] <mattgyver83> I still have it, in case xubuntu has some serious issues
[08:01] <WheelDweller> If you're curious, it's at http://CounterMoon.org, in the gallery- the latest pictures.  It's been a long, long project, but some fun along the way, too.
[08:02] <mattgyver83> Its just so much easier to port things from ubuntu, to xubuntu as opposed to, ubuntu (my desktop os) to dsl...
[08:02] <mattgyver83> I guess thats because they are similar aside from the window manager?
[08:02] <mattgyver83> Xfce vs Gnome?
[08:02] <WheelDweller> Yeah, I'd say so.
[08:03] <WheelDweller> Are you unable to get more memory?
[08:03] <mattgyver83> Other then that its the same cereal, just the one on the bottom shelf with the pelican, as opposed to the tucan
[08:03] <mattgyver83> I can, but i actually just killed this battery, and because its so old its not worth buying upgrades
[08:03] <mattgyver83> I will eventually just buy a new laptop
[08:04] <mattgyver83> this one cost me nothing, and it works better now with linux then it ever did with windows
[08:04] <WheelDweller> Ah; I see- it's a laptop.  Yeah, and laptops aren't cheap, even at salvage.  And everyone wants one.
[08:04] <mattgyver83> yeah
[08:04] <mattgyver83> and the RAM for it is rare, and not worth the effort
[08:04] <WheelDweller> Well, wait a minute...you've checked eBay?
[08:04] <mattgyver83> the most it can handle is 256
[08:04] <WheelDweller> Yeah, still a little skimpy.
[08:05] <mattgyver83> yeah
[08:05] <mattgyver83> Really im just trying to learn linux and setup a linux/windows network at home to gain some experience
[08:05] <WheelDweller> This one has 512, but to use much of it, I have to keep all my desktop apps open, then play UnrealTournament, too.  Sounds like you're on the right machine, at the right time, though.
[08:06] <mattgyver83> Well, That i got xubuntu on it im comfortable
[08:06] <mattgyver83> with DSL it was a hassle
[08:06] <mattgyver83> I couldnt just load and be online, i had to run ndiswrapper each time
[08:06] <mattgyver83> and only a handful of programs actually would work on it
[08:07] <mattgyver83> at least here i can use programs and such that im familiar with on ubuntu
[08:07] <WheelDweller> Well, a $50 router-box might remove the hassle- one of those 'whole house' routers?  Then it's easy on the laptop, just plugging into ethernet.
[08:07] <mattgyver83> Oh, thats the other thing
[08:07] <mattgyver83> the PCMCIA slot is burnt out on this machine
[08:07] <WheelDweller> Darn.
[08:07] <mattgyver83> so i have to connect wifi, and it has no ethernet slot
[08:07] <mattgyver83> like i said, its a pos
[08:07] <WheelDweller> And let me guess: no built-in.  Bummer.
[08:07] <mattgyver83> however, im just trying to make it work
[08:07] <mattgyver83> hell no
[08:07] <WheelDweller> :)
[08:08] <mattgyver83> its like a 12x cdrom drive
[08:08] <mattgyver83> however, since we are on the subject
[08:08] <WheelDweller> Ya know, it's possible your machine is older than mine!  :>  That makes me feel a tiny bit better.
[08:08] <mattgyver83> do you know of a burning rom that will burn Lightscribe cds?
[08:08] <Lunis`Away> how can i prevent media player from starting when i plug in my psp?
[08:08] <mattgyver83> (i have a lightscribe drive on my desktop but have never used it, and ubu doesnt do it neither does VLC)
[08:08] <mattgyver83> but i have some i wanna play with
[08:09] <WheelDweller> I thought I saw one the other day; does Xcdroast?  (That's such a new feature, I have no idea...)
[08:09] <mattgyver83> I found something, but was unable to get it to work
[08:09] <mattgyver83> For my next trick, i need to learn what works on what distros, and what doesnt
[08:09] <WheelDweller> It's pretty new tech...and so likely to be problematic.
[08:10] <mattgyver83> Ive been told some apps work on all, and some dont, but i dont know how to determine
[08:10] <mattgyver83> However im also running Familiar/Opie on my Palm Lifedrive and have learned that nothing works on that ....
[08:10] <mattgyver83> Which i dont even know if thats a linux distro or not, its not on any timeline ive seen
[08:10] <WheelDweller> On the same hardware, most (like 95%) of the apps should work the same.  But when it comes to hardware things, that's where the most changes are.
[08:11] <WheelDweller> Does your Palm not have a serial connection?  (I have a couple of V's here, but they're very, very tired- and wanted something newer....)
[08:11] <mattgyver83> no, its usb
[08:11] <mattgyver83> Its wifi and bluetooth capable which is awesome
[08:11] <WheelDweller> I always thought the "V" was the future, but they backed outta that product.  Oh, well.  Yeah, that sounds great!
[08:12] <mattgyver83> Its really cool, however right now the thing that sucks is that the linux distro that is *in the works* is really slow and unstable
[08:12] <mattgyver83> and doesnt have wifi capabilities yet
[08:12] <WheelDweller> I was using mine as a security guard. Fabulous.  I could take notes while not even looking at the screen, and the handwriting was always perfect, when it was done, 'cause it was text.  My boss probably misses it, now.
[08:12] <mattgyver83> So, i still use Palm OS more often
[08:13] <mattgyver83> I make spreadsheet trackers for my work and can use them on windows, but i want a version that i can also use on linux, making them portable and *to the minute* accurate
[08:13] <WheelDweller> I really wish they'd have licensed the handwriting long ago; make it cheap and the whole world would be using it.
[08:13] <mattgyver83> however, with linux on the lifedrive being so slow ... its of no use
[08:14] <WheelDweller> Yeah...unless....VMWare?
[08:14] <mattgyver83> i have to use documents to go instead of Open Office, which D2G doesnt port over .xls documents as well
[08:14] <mattgyver83> Whats VMware?
[08:14] <WheelDweller> A way to run a carefully-controlled instance of [insert Windows version here]  on top of Linux.  Makes it all nice and safe.
[08:15] <WheelDweller> I'm assuming the Pilot needs to connect to a desktop, though...
[08:15] <mattgyver83> Well...
[08:15] <mattgyver83> Yes and no?
[08:15] <mattgyver83> If you want to sync with a lifedrive you can upload to the internet and download if need be
[08:15] <mattgyver83> however it would be much more efficiant if you could plug in and synch
[08:16] <mattgyver83> But i am assuming that VMware is for a desktop, not mobile managers/pdas/smartphones
[08:17] <WheelDweller> The nice thing about VMWare, other than the price, is that you can 'cage' an instance of Windows...and actually keep it from freaking out due to a virus.  It has a 'persistant disk' that you can remove all kinds of important system files, muck it up good, then "reboot" the window, and it's all back to the way it was.  Fabulous.
[08:17] <WheelDweller> And yeah...desktop; sorry.
[08:17] <jbrouhard> What's a good wifi manager for xubuntu ?
[08:17] <mattgyver83> jbrouhard; let me know if you find out!
[08:17] <WheelDweller> Hmm.  Good question.
[08:17] <mattgyver83> Thats also on my list of things to do....
[08:17] <jbrouhard> heh
[08:17] <jbrouhard> Currently i'm using command line sudo iwconfig but I'd prefer a gui to keep it simple when I need to
[08:18] <WheelDweller> I was just going to set it up, on my little box in the trailer....'hard code' the thing.
[08:18] <mattgyver83> your using iwconfig ?
[08:18] <mattgyver83> or iwlist
[08:18] <mattgyver83> ?
[08:18] <WheelDweller> Well, you could learn  Zenity, put it all in a cute little script.
[08:18] <WheelDweller> (And then under a single icon)
[08:18] <jbrouhard> iwconfig
[08:18] <mattgyver83> Okay, to connect
[08:19] <jbrouhard> i use iwlist only if i don't know the access point SSID :)
[08:19] <mattgyver83> I need something to show me available networks and signal strenght
[08:19] <jbrouhard> mattgyver83: same here
[08:19] <jbrouhard> I was able to use knetwork manager for that
[08:19] <mattgyver83> in xubuntu?
[08:19] <jbrouhard> Yeah
[08:19] <mattgyver83> Okay
[08:19] <jbrouhard> i had instlled kubuntu first, then xfce-desktop
[08:20] <WheelDweller> If you could work out the underlying script to make that happen in bash (or whatever) you could have Zenity dress it up for you...
[08:20] <mattgyver83> I wish someone made a firefox wifi extension that works for linux
[08:20] <mattgyver83> their is one for windows
[08:20] <mattgyver83> that would be awesome
[08:20] <jbrouhard> heh
[08:20] <jbrouhard> mattgyver83: try network-manager ?
[08:20] <mattgyver83> okay
[08:20] <mattgyver83> no
[08:21] <mattgyver83> todays my first day on xubuntu
[08:21] <mattgyver83> but i will check
[08:21] <mattgyver83> anything i can find will work
[08:21] <WheelDweller> Oh, crap!  It's 0120 here.  I have a meeting in the morning!   See ya, guys!
[08:23] <jbrouhard> Oh
[08:23] <jbrouhard> mattgyver83: system -> Administration -> Networking according to https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/internet/C/connect-to-internet.html#wireless
[08:23] <mattgyver83> Can you download the ubuntu bots something one can download?  it would be cool to just login, ask yourself a question and get some sort of answer...
[08:24] <mattgyver83> that was a tad redundant
[08:24] <mattgyver83> Cool, thanks
[08:33] <BrendanM> So I have a laptop connected to an external monitor. How do I adjust the settings for the external monitor?
[08:34] <BrendanM> Like clone vs. extended desktop, etc?
[08:56] <BrendanM> Anyone know how to set an external monitor to be an extended desktop instead of clone mode?
[08:57] <BrendanM> The video card is an ATI Radeon Mobility
[08:59] <mattgyver83> How do you add programs to the applications menu?  Can this be done without add/remove?
[09:06] <BrendanM> mattgyver83, do you just want to add a shortcut?
[09:06] <BrendanM> or are you trying to install a new program?
[09:07] <mattgyver83> shortcut
[09:08] <BrendanM> Unfortunately the menu editor in Xubuntu doesn't work well, so your best bet is to go to /usr/share/applications and create a new *****.desktop file there. You can look at some of the existing shortcuts to see how to format it correctly.
[09:08] <BrendanM> Then just make a new one with mousepad.
[09:09] <BrendanM> and it'll appear in the menu. You might have to refresh the desktop.
[09:09] <mattgyver83> Okay, thanks!
[09:09] <BrendanM> no problem
[09:22] <gsuveg> re
[10:04] <JRL01192> !repos
[10:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:05] <JRL01192> !ask
[10:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:12] <BrendanM> !botsnack
[10:12] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:08] <nikolam> Hello to all
[11:27] <chosig> I have the stranges problem, my system is mounted and ready (install done and working), but when I try to run hdparm it sais that there isn't a /dev/hda folder... which there truly isn't. but according to fstab and mount / is mounted on /dev/hda
[11:27] <chosig> on /dev/hda1 even
[11:29] <JRL01192> looks like this place is dead lol
[11:30] <Pumpernickel> It should be /dev/sda1.
[11:30] <Pumpernickel> (And fstab should be using UUIDs.)
[11:30] <totalwormage> o_0
[11:31] <totalwormage> depends if it is a sata disk or not..
[11:31] <chosig> it's an ide...
[11:31] <chosig> istallend on an old piii600 i had in the closet
[11:31] <Pumpernickel> It doesn't matter which it is, since the libata change.
[11:31] <Pumpernickel> They both use the same naming comvention, now.
[11:31] <chosig> yeah
[11:32] <chosig> just understood that... sda worked... i've gotta have been in the sun for too long today :P
[11:32] <totalwormage> oh ok :] 
[01:04] <JRL01192> I don't know who is evesdropping but they have been hard at work for 5 days now recording my keystrokes from 1:00pm-2:30pm, 4:00pm-1:00 am
[01:04] <JRL01192> oops
[02:00] <Wankus> I was checking my auth.log today and I spotted this: "Main-PC su[26519] : Successful su for jim by root", unfortunately jim has no administer privileges. What's going on?
[02:01] <JRL01192> how do you check your logs?
[02:01] <pleia2> Wankus: looks like root su-ed to jim
[02:02] <pleia2> a user with sudo could have: sudo su jim
[02:03] <Wankus>  pleia2: jim has no administer privileges. Jim is completely inept with computers!
[02:03] <pleia2> Wankus: right, he didn't do the su command, someone used su to become jim
[02:03] <pleia2> s/someone/someone with sudo
[02:03] <Wankus> the  only person who can use sudo is me, and I was asleep at that time!
[02:04] <pleia2> ah, interesting :)
[02:04] <Wankus> have i been hacked?
[02:07] <JRL01192> I read recently there was an exploit to sudo yourself in UbuntU I THINK i JUST SKIMPED BY THE TITLE
[02:07] <JRL01192> I didn't look into it
[02:08] <Wankus> You got the link JRL01192?
[02:09] <JRL01192> sorry it was around one those hack sites like astalavista or something around there
[02:09] <JRL01192> I usually go around there to learn Programing
[02:09] <Wankus> ah ok,
[02:10] <JRL01192> but I am not 100% sure
[02:10] <Wankus> Ok, I'll check it thanks
[02:11] <pleia2> Wankus: you can also check all the cron jobs on the machine, there might be a valid reason for root becoming the jim user
[02:12] <Wankus> pleia2: How would I check that? I've checked my auth.logs and so far I haven't ever seen jim (or any other user) becoming root before.
[02:13] <Wankus> These are the lines from auth.log anyway:
[02:13] <Wankus> Aug  7 09:29:22 Main-PC su[26519] : Successful su for jim root
[02:13] <Wankus> Aug  7 09:29:22 Main-PC su[26519] : + ??? root:jim
[02:14] <Wankus> Aug  7 09:29:22 Main-PC su[26519] : (pam_unix) session opened for user jim (uid=0)
[02:14] <pleia2> Wankus: you can browse /etc/cron.d (and cron.daily/ , hourly, monthly, weekly)
[02:14] <pleia2> also: sudo crontab -u root -l
[02:14] <Wankus> ok, I'll check that
[02:14] <Wankus> what does the " sudo crontab -u root -l" do?
[02:15] <pleia2> -u == user; -l == list
[02:15] <pleia2> so you list the crontab entries for user root
[02:15] <Wankus> ok ta
[02:16] <Wankus> " sudo crontab -u root -l" gives "no crontab for root"
[02:16] <pleia2> Wankus: yeah, that's normal
[02:16] <pleia2> just one of the places to check :)
[02:16] <Wankus> true, thanks
[02:18] <Wankus> Ok, I don't think someody hacked me over the internet because I just remembered my modem was disconnected from the internet at that time.
[02:19] <pleia2> that's good :)
[02:20] <Wankus> But I'm stil a bit worried, I've gone a bit paranoid these days
[02:21] <JRL01192> you should be with all the hacking activity going on in Russia and it's recent attacks on the web
[02:22] <Wankus> Really? Didn't know about that.
[02:23] <Wankus> Now I'm even more worried, :(
[02:23] <JRL01192> :-P
[02:24] <pleia2> JRL01192: stop scaring people :)
[02:24] <Wankus> lol, Is there anyway I can upload the relevant parts of the file, so that I can post it here? Like imageshack but for text files?
[02:25] <pleia2> !pastebin
[02:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:26] <Wankus> Ta
[02:26] <Wankus> back in a jiffy
[02:26] <JRL01192> scaring people, just be glad for me not going into details :-X
[02:27] <JRL01192> glad of me*
[02:32] <Wankus> Here we go - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32914/
[02:34] <Wankus> The bit I'm, concerned about starts from line 27
[02:45] <Wankus> So is there something fishy going on there or am I just being a tad too batshit?
[03:17] <Bysmeden> hi al..
[03:17] <Bysmeden> all
[03:18] <Bysmeden> need help on my install..   installed "oem" and when boot up i only got login ,
[03:26] <Gamienator> Hi there, have a ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x 3D Rednering Support ?
[03:26] <Gamienator> Rendering, sorry
[03:34] <TheSheep> !ati | Gamienator
[03:34] <ubotu> Gamienator: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:35] <Gamienator> thx
[04:49] <jeeGr> hey how do i change the theme in my xubuntu
[04:52] <zials> jeeGr -  menu -> Settings -> User Interface Settings
[04:53] <jeeGr> zials, ok i but if i want some theme from xfce-look.org how do i install it??
[04:53] <zials> which type of theme is it? (gtk / xfce)
[04:53] <jeeGr> xfce
[04:54] <zials> mhmm, never tried one of those...
[04:55] <zials> I guess you could put it in ~/.theme
[04:55] <zials> err, thats ~/.themes
[04:56] <jeeGr> i cant find themes??
[04:57] <zials> make it then
[04:57] <zials> but, make sure you have hidden folders enabeled
[04:57] <zials> ctrl + h or view -> show hidden folders
[04:58] <jeeGr> thx
[05:15] <Pazy> I want to install Xubuntu as an alternative to KDE on my current Kubuntu install is this possible?
[05:17] <K3rl0u4rn> Pazy: it is, just install xubuntu-desktop package and you will have all the xubuntu dependencies
[05:17] <Pazy> Thanks
[05:18] <K3rl0u4rn> you're welcome
[05:21] <TuxRox> I just burned a xubuntu 7.04 CD. I booted it up and it is asking for a user name and password. Why might that be, and what are the default user and password for the CD?
[06:50] <clefia> for 3 months I've installed and use Xubuntu feisty, from time to time, my system will run out of memory to a crawl till it's unusable
[06:50] <clefia> then it's hitting the restart button
[06:50] <clefia> I have 320mb of sdram an 256mb of swap
[06:51] <clefia> i've got firefox and gaim opened everytime I ran out of memory
[06:52] <clefia> is there any log on my system that can tell me what's wrong?
[07:00] <TheSheep> clefia: in /var/log/
[07:09] <genii> check /var/log/messages /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/syslog
[07:14] <Ragioniere> good night people
[07:15] <maxamillion> wait ... you signed in to say goodnight?
[07:15] <Ragioniere> excuse me
[07:15] <Ragioniere> i'm an italian boy
[07:15] <maxamillion> lol, no no .. i was just curious
[07:16] <Ragioniere> please,excuse me for my bad english
[07:16] <Ragioniere> i have installed xubuntu on my lifebook
[07:16] <Ragioniere> but i don't know how i can configure my pcmcia card
[07:21] <clefia> genii: I'm check through the 3 files that you've memtioned. didn't find any unusual activities. Someone told me it could be memory leak from firefox.
[07:22] <genii> clefia: The symptoms you described of slowdoen then stop fit the description for a memory leak, yes.
[07:23] <genii> clefia:What version firefox is on it?
[07:25] <clefia> genii: 2.0.0.6, i have the same problem even before i upgraded from 2.0.0.4 a few days ago
[07:26] <clefia> i'm seeing 8 instants of firefox-bin in htop, is this normal?
[07:27] <genii> clefia: Bleh. i remember 1.5 series also had some memory leak issue with xfce. Did not know about the 2.0.0.X series also. If it persists you may want to use some other browser
[07:28] <genii> clefia: I think you may want to cycle thru them by alt-tab and close the ones you are not immediately using
[07:31] <clefia> genii: I just have 2 windows but 10+ tabs
[07:31] <clefia> of firefox
[07:32] <genii> clefia: When you have active content like flash in many of the tabs it causes grief
[07:35] <clefia> genii: i understand. I just wished the system would let me kill firefox but it becomes so unresponsive that I have to force restart
[07:37] <genii> clefia: Well, I would normally do then is hit crtl-alt-esc   then put the skull on firefox window and click :)
[07:39] <clefia> genii: ah thanks. i didn't knew there's a shotcut for xkill. I push alt+ctrl+del. the screen saver came up and lagged the system even more XD
[07:41] <genii> clefia: You may want to use another browser for casual surfing like iceweasel
[07:47] <clefia> genii: I need to ask of you another favor. Can you help me check if there is any issue with my system from this screenshot of my htop output? for 3 months I've installed and use Xubuntu feisty, from time to time, my system will run out of memory to a crawl till it's unusable
[07:47] <clefia> then it's hitting the restart button, I have 320mb of sdram an 256mb of swap
[07:47] <clefia> i've got firefox and gaim opened everytime I ran out of memory is there a log on my system that can tell me what's wrong?
[07:47] <clefia> sorry, ignore my post. I paste the wrong message
[07:48] <clefia> please forgive my spamming
[07:48] <genii> clefia: Unfortunately today i do not have much time away from work for extended help :(
[07:50] <clefia> genii: no problem. I apreciated the advice you have given. thanks for you time
[07:55] <genii> clefia: I hope you get the assistance you need on this. Til it gets sorted out you may want to use another browser, there are at least a few i know of besides firefox ... iceweasel (but it uses the same sort of engine) dillo (different engine) opera (not free unfortunately) galeon
[08:59] <Lunis> Question: How do you keep XFCE (and Gnome, for that matter) from opening an audio player when you plug in a PSP?
[09:01] <jwishnie> having trouble with GtkFileChooser under Xubuntu, t does not display mounted volumes (USB sticks) in the places bar on the left
[09:02] <jwishnie> view of GTK documentation suggests this should be automatic, Has anyone seen this?
[09:04] <maxamillion> jwishnie: just a moment, let me check a couple things ... i have very little experience with GtkFileChooser
[09:04] <maxamillion> jwishnie: oooh, you mean from inside applications?
[09:05] <jwishnie> correct
[09:05] <jwishnie> to reproduce, insert a USB key
[09:05] <jwishnie> notice that it appears on desktop and in Thunar places bar (left side)
[09:05] <maxamillion> jwishnie: right
[09:06] <jwishnie> According to GNOME docs, it _should_ appear in Open/Save panel (GtkFileChooser) from applications
[09:06] <jwishnie> Open 'Mousepad', choose 'Save'
[09:06] <jwishnie> note that the USB stick does not appear in the places section on left
[09:06] <maxamillion> jwishnie: i am actually not on xubuntu, i am at work on a debian etch workstation
[09:07] <jwishnie> maxamillion: What is your desktop environment? Gnome or XFCE4?
[09:07] <maxamillion> jwishnie: neither .... pypanel+openbox
[09:07] <jwishnie> maxamillion: you will not be able to reproduce
[09:07] <maxamillion> jwishnie: probably not .... but i will be able to at home because i have a xubuntu machine at home
[09:08] <maxamillion> jwishnie: have you checked launchpad for bug reports?
[09:08] <jwishnie> maxamillion: see this link and search for "Volumes" (match case) for a description of the intended behavior: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.2/gtk/GtkFileChooser.html
[09:08] <jwishnie> maxamillion: am attempting to (search Launchpad)
[09:09] <maxamillion> jwishnie: oh ok
[09:50] <hyper_ch> hiho
[09:50] <TheSheep> hi hyper_ch
[09:50] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: so, I got a new apartment ;)
[09:51] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: you lucky monster
[09:51] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: it's a nice one...
[09:52] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: with a swimming pool for sharks?
[09:52] <hyper_ch> sure :)
[09:52] <hyper_ch> how comes apache loses grounds to IIS? ;(
[09:52] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: --> #xubuntu-offtopic
[09:52] <hyper_ch> *grmbl*
[09:54] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: I have too many channels open
[09:54] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: shame
[09:54] <hyper_ch> ;)
[11:03] <hyper_ch> anyone got a problem?
[11:04] <jwishnie> hyper_ch: still need help getting mounted-USB drives to show up in Open/Save panels from GTK applications. Any ideas?
[11:05] <hyper_ch> jwishnie: nope :)
[11:05] <hyper_ch> jwishnie: try accessing it with thunar
[11:05] <hyper_ch> and then open some gtk app and check if it's there then?
[11:06] <jwishnie> hyper_ch: no, does not appeer
[11:06] <jwishnie> hyper_ch: Thunar displays it properly (as does the desktop) but Save/Open panels do not display
[11:06] <hyper_ch> well, that's what I noticed... mine doesn't show in konqueror before I haven't it accressed first by thunar
[11:07] <jwishnie> hyper_ch: right. that's because by default it isn't mounted until you open it in Thunar
[11:08] <hyper_ch> jwishnie: so it works now?
[11:08] <jwishnie> hyper_ch: do you see it in panels from GTK apps?
[11:08] <jwishnie> hyper_ch: no. still does not display
[11:08] <jwishnie> hyper_ch: (in GTK apps)
[11:08] <hyper_ch> I first need to find a gtk app ;)
[11:08] <jwishnie> hyper_ch: mousepad is a pretty simple one
[11:09] <hyper_ch> hmmm, I left my usb stick at work
[11:10] <jwishnie> hyper_ch: same problem with any mountable device--floppy, cd, dvd
[11:11] <hyper_ch> dunno
[11:27] <colossus73> hi
[11:28] <colossus73> I have a problem with the microphone, this is the output of  arecord --list-devices:
[11:28] <colossus73> **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
[11:28] <colossus73> card 0: MCP04 [NVidia MCP04] , device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia MCP04] 
[11:28] <colossus73>   Subdevices: 1/1
[11:28] <colossus73>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[11:28] <colossus73> card 0: MCP04 [NVidia MCP04] , device 1: Intel ICH - MIC ADC [NVidia MCP04 - MIC ADC] 
[11:28] <colossus73>   Subdevices: 1/1
[11:28] <colossus73>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[11:28] <colossus73> it should be detected shouldn't be?
[11:28] <maxamillion> !pastebin | colossus73
[11:28] <ubotu> colossus73: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:28] <maxamillion> colossus73: if it is longer than 3 lines, please use pastebin
[11:29] <maxamillion> colossus73: have you checked the device in xfce4-mixer?
[11:29] <colossus73> please accet my apologies, I forgot!
[11:29] <colossus73> no
[11:29] <colossus73> what shall I see?
[11:29] <colossus73> I see a slider under microphone
[11:29] <colossus73> under Mic
[11:29] <colossus73> and the volume is set to maximum
[11:30] <colossus73> any clue?
[11:32] <maxamillion> colossus73: not off the top of my head no :( ... i unfortunately haven't had any issues with microphones aside from having to turn up the volume on them
[11:32] <colossus73> which are your setting in alsaconf?
[11:32] <colossus73> I have 2 mic but I connected only one...
[11:32] <colossus73> so why two mics?
[11:38] <maxamillion> colossus73: do you have 2 places a mic can be connected to your computer? there is probably and entry for each port
[11:40] <colossus73> ok