[12:27] anyone know how to make scite save preferences such as using monospace font or showing linenumbers by default? .scite.properties and scite.properties don't work for some reason :< === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === Lunis is now known as Lunis`Away === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:09] hmm hi [01:09] I just forced package version in synaptic [01:09] and I want to get back to newer version again [01:09] How to undo force version === JohanSalim [n=guest@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-244-71.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@c-71-228-16-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@72-55-208-253.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:34] If I specify VideoRam on a video card that already has some, will that override the ram on the card or will it just add to it? === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h42n4c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu === Rockinghorse [n=me@cpe-76-87-154-6.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === JohanSalim [n=guest@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #xubuntu [01:47] cellofellow: For the most part, that value is just ignored. [02:07] yeah, I know s3virge ignores it. === kb0rpj-wx [n=ident@doc-24-32-241-90.trenton.mo.cebridge.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:10] If a monitor just goes black when I turn on X, does that mean the refresh rates are too-something? === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:12] The power light just blinks and the monitor goes black. Refresh too high? [02:14] Found it. I was right. === dj_martin_k [n=1034EE5E@201-213-160-142.net.prima.net.ar] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:17] anyone here fimilar with shared folders? [02:18] no me [02:18] im just here asking for a problem with the live cd [02:19] what is the issue? [02:20] my live cd boots wrong... [02:20] i dont know whats happening... [02:20] what do you mean "boots wrong"? [02:21] when it boots on xfce, it doesnt shows the up/down bars and the mouse doesnt move [02:22] it just freezes [02:22] sorry my bad english [02:23] i'm from argentina [02:24] how much ram do you have? [02:24] 192MB [02:24] and 1ghz proccessor pentium III model [02:29] i think you might want to use the alt cd [02:29] but i have 64 kbps connection [02:30] and down the live cd costs 4 weeks on torrent [02:30] thank you [02:30] then try the mini iso [02:30] ill try anothe distro [02:31] i have to go === dj_martin_k [n=1034EE5E@201-213-160-142.net.prima.net.ar] has left #xubuntu [] [02:32] another satisfied customer [02:46] JESUS! why, xfce, do you open media player when i plug in my psp, and how can i make you not do that D: [02:49] vidd : i've told it i want to share /var/www on my system.. i selected windows.. but i can't see the folder on my windows pc [02:49] i see the second computer running linux.. but i can't see the /var/www folder [02:50] you use: System -> Shared Folders? [02:50] yup [02:51] kb0rpj-wx, i dont know anything about shared folders [02:52] ... and, when you go to the workgroup/domain, do you see it? [02:52] i see the computer.. but not the folder [02:53] ... not sure what you mean by that [02:53] on my windows.. pc i see.. mshome -> xubuntu but no folders [02:53] ahh [02:53] and, you have /var/www as shared and shared through 'Windows netword (SMB' [02:54] yes [02:57] urgh... well, not sure what the problem is... have you checked http://ubuntuguide.org ? [03:00] not yet.. but i will thanks [03:01] ok.. let me ask more question tonight.. how do i setup something to start when the computer comes up.. i want to be able to make sure eggdrop is starting on startup [03:02] mhmm, you have to modify the rc something file [03:02] i downloaded the launcher package [03:02] but i'm not sure on the flags [03:03] it says launcher [[[--all] [--nowait] [--type] [03:04] it says launcher [[[--all] [--nowait] [--type] | [--showtypes] [--compressed] | [--help] | [--verison] filename | url [03:04] so can i just do launcher /home/glen/eggdrop/eggdrop eggdrop.conf ? [03:08] you use the terminal to start eggdrop right? === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B96E38.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:20] yup === R[a] ndom [n=random@dhcp-0-9-5b-fe-6a-d9.cpe.i-zoom.net] has joined #xubuntu === sutabi [n=sutabi@ip70-181-136-127.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:21] anyone know of any tool that will help me fine which folder are taking up the most room on my harddrive? [04:22] heh i use right click [04:22] not very fast, but very effective === qudama [n=qudama@202.152.172.2] has joined #xubuntu [04:24] anyone knows what's network monitor in xubuntu? like knemo in kubuntu [04:25] I know there is a commandline banwidth tracker that lets you see how much in/out is going on [04:26] what is the name? [04:26] command line? [04:27] yeah cli, im looking for the name now [04:27] ok [04:28] sutabi: try fiddling with du, du -hcs * in a folder would view the sizes of each target folder and file in the working directory [04:28] without subfolders [04:28] qudama - bwm [04:28] I'm pretty sure there's a better tool though [04:29] sudo apt-get install bwm [04:30] ok, can I see my in/out daily traffic on that? [04:30] qudama yes [04:30] ok [04:30] in a terminal just type bwm and it will show you the in/out [04:31] sutabi-thank 4 info [04:31] np === maxamillion [n=adam@mobile-166-217-084-046.mycingular.net] has joined #xubuntu === s|k [n=bjorn@c-69-181-8-54.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === mattgyver83 [n=mattgyve@pool-71-252-5-65.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:32] is anybody not afk? [05:50] http://xkcd.com/149/ D:!!!!!!! [05:50] eye are am nt afking. [05:51] Lunis`Away: yes, xkcd dominates :) === OGDA [n=thomas@67-150-244-71.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === totalwormage [n=worm@flits102-83.flits.rug.nl] has joined #xubuntu === JohanSalim [n=guest@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #xubuntu === mecannotread [n=josef@202.93.40.230] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@mobile-166-217-084-046.mycingular.net] has joined #xubuntu === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACD57162.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:23] mayes :< [07:23] dead === s|k [n=bjorn@c-69-181-8-54.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:23] god damn emotional hooks D: [07:25] !language | Lunis`Away [07:25] Lunis`Away: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. === WheelDweller [n=brian@mx10.fahrlander.net] has joined #xubuntu === s|k [n=bjorn@c-69-181-8-54.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:33] Is it quiet in here, or is it just me? (It's been a REALLY long time since I was on IRC...) [07:34] fairly quiet === mattgyver83 [n=mattgyve@pool-71-252-5-65.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:36] is anyone not currently afk? [07:36] !ask | mattgyver83 [07:36] mattgyver83: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [07:36] I'm here, kinda. :) [07:36] Catching up on my reading... [07:36] sorry, everytime i show, everyones afk ';) [07:37] mattgyver83: yeah, alot of our regular community members have been busy with real life lately (myself included) ... what's up? [07:37] This is my first time here...not new to Linux, but very new to IRC. And, I'm using GAIM. We'll see how that goes. [07:37] im having a problem with synaptic in Xubuntu, it continues to prompt me to load the Xubuntu CD into the drive to install packages. [07:37] mattgyver83: www.irssi.org <--- the irc client from the gods [07:37] :) [07:38] i like xchat ;) [07:38] but not the gnome one [07:38] Yeah, and FOR the gods, I'd imagine. I just wanna talk...not get fancy. [07:38] WheelDweller: check out xchat [07:38] mattgyver83, in synaptic, go to your sourced and uncheck the box next to the CDROM [07:39] I imagine a lot of changes have taken place since I was last in IRC. Lotsa new bots, etc. [07:39] WheelDweller, probably [07:39] (I'll be quiet now so you guys can work.) [07:39] WheelDweller: in here? ... shouldn't be, i believe only ubotu is allowed [07:39] ? [07:40] WheelDweller, he means bots === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-22-196.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [07:40] ubotu is the only bot allowed in official *buntu irc channels [07:41] Well, I was thinking about all the developments to various bots (not specifically here) since I was on. I was using Xchat, I think, last time....or Ksirc. Been years. [07:41] Just a sec.... [07:41] yeah eggdrop bots have support for most any language, and most SQL engines now [07:41] Lunis'Away, would you be speaking of in the Third-Party Software tab? [07:42] WheelDweller: i think you are confusing the term 'bot' with the term 'client' [07:42] mattgyver83, hold on, i'll tell you specifically, let me fire it up [07:42] Thank you very much. [07:42] OK, back. Not specifically- just pointing out that a lot of development has gone 'under the bridge' since I was last on, and that makes it a new world for me. (Here, or otherwise) [07:44] I just came tonight to get the lay of the land- I *hope* I'm about to get a lot more professional Linux time, soon. I figured it was time to 'join up' as it were with the other developers. [07:44] Has anyone worked out the "HostObject" thing in LDAP? I just want to patch my LDAP, then document it, and start making copies for various clients in the future. [07:45] (The "hostObject auxilliary class". Sounds like Java. :>) [07:46] WheelDweller: can't say i have had any experience with it [07:46] mattgyver83, click Settings->Repositories [07:46] Okay [07:46] It's very interesting...yet another server to config; it's a clever little thing....but it's SO very flexible it's hard to learn. At least for me. [07:47] Is anyone using Compiz/Beryl on a daily basis, yet? [07:47] WheelDweller: yes and no .... [07:48] WheelDweller: i used _old_ beryl for a while, then it annoyed me .. then i tried new beryl and used it for a while but then it annoyed me ... [07:48] I was just thinking that if it was "demo ready" it'd be nice to set it up and show off. I understand the time it takes to make these things work...look how long Enlightenment version....17? has been in the works. :> [07:48] WheelDweller, I was in Feisty, and it worked pretty good. I am on Gutsy now and it DOES NOT WORK at all... or at least not very well :) [07:48] WheelDweller: but i used each daily for about a month each and it was stable enough to be tollerable [07:49] ...probably too much changing at the same time. Oh, well, it'll get better. [07:49] mattgyver83, did you get it fixed? [07:49] Lunis`Away: well beryl is dead and compiz is going to re-release as 'compiz fusion' because they are merging all the code right now [07:49] Im actually about to find out, but i think i might have [07:50] hopefully it doesnt crash, ive been having that problem, but it could be due to that [07:51] D: now i have to re get used to things again. curse it all. oh well, i'm quite good with xfce compositioning. simple, unintrusive, and still sexy [07:51] for some reason when i search for a package, it becomes unresponsive [07:51] mattgyver83, in xfce? mine does that too for a minute. will hang after i enter a password in gksu for like 3 minutes :x [07:51] Though, earlier, i was able to search and find the package in question. The only issue was that it was telling me to install via cdrom [07:51] Yeah, xfce [07:52] This is my first run with Xubuntu, im use to regular ubuntu [07:52] I had to run DSL prior on this machine, its got some pretty old hardware [07:53] How old? (I've been stranded in a no-tech town...) [07:53] Well.. its a toshiba tecra 8000 Laptop, P2 [07:53] Only 128ram [07:53] mattgyver83: yes, its going to lag horribly [07:54] That much i expect [07:54] but earlier it wasnt doing this [07:54] i think, .... i happend... [07:54] mattgyver83: i have only ever used synaptic once and it was just to see how good it was .... on an athlon64 3200+ w/ 1gb of ram i wanted to cry at how horribly it lagged [07:54] and thus, i never used it again [07:55] now, would i experience horrible lag as well through apt-get? [07:55] (it just found the package) [07:55] Yeah, synaptic's a hog these days. Aptitude's the every day. aye? [07:55] mattgyver83: no, you shouldn't experience lag through apt-get or aptitude [07:55] WheelDweller: yes, i use aptitude daily ... i don't like administering my system from a gui === thomas__ [n=thomas@67-150-254-208.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:56] but then again linux has been my primary operating system for 8 years [07:56] Once in a while, I do; it's easier to look for applications from the add/remove panel, but even then it's a slow process. [07:56] anyhoo ... bed time [07:56] WheelDweller: not really ... apt-cache and aptitude have wonderful search functions [07:56] Linus'Away; its working perfectly now, thanks for your help on that matter. [07:57] laters all [07:57] Yeah, me too...I think I started in...94? Something like that. Slackware 2.3. Nasty. :> [07:57] Is their anyway to "lighten the load" to reduce some of the lag? [07:58] Memory helps; doing it on a RAID disk helps... [07:58] (both add/remove and synaptic) [07:59] Its really not as bad as i imagined.... for some reason, ubuntu itself just wouldnt work. [07:59] Hmm. [08:00] Im pretty new to linux, so i dont know if it had anything to do with Gnome or what. DSL i was able to configure but its a pain in the butt to maintain. [08:00] I just put Dapper in my trailer; someone left a Celeron 400 out on the stoop...I stripped it, it's fanless, and right now it's the "avionics" of my trailer. Sweet little deal. Right now it just turns on a fan when the hardware closet gets too hot, but later it'll be fun. [08:01] Yeah, if the DSL isn't a fixed address, it's always a pain. [08:01] I still have it, in case xubuntu has some serious issues [08:01] If you're curious, it's at http://CounterMoon.org, in the gallery- the latest pictures. It's been a long, long project, but some fun along the way, too. [08:02] Its just so much easier to port things from ubuntu, to xubuntu as opposed to, ubuntu (my desktop os) to dsl... [08:02] I guess thats because they are similar aside from the window manager? [08:02] Xfce vs Gnome? [08:02] Yeah, I'd say so. [08:03] Are you unable to get more memory? [08:03] Other then that its the same cereal, just the one on the bottom shelf with the pelican, as opposed to the tucan [08:03] I can, but i actually just killed this battery, and because its so old its not worth buying upgrades [08:03] I will eventually just buy a new laptop [08:04] this one cost me nothing, and it works better now with linux then it ever did with windows [08:04] Ah; I see- it's a laptop. Yeah, and laptops aren't cheap, even at salvage. And everyone wants one. [08:04] yeah [08:04] and the RAM for it is rare, and not worth the effort [08:04] Well, wait a minute...you've checked eBay? [08:04] the most it can handle is 256 [08:04] Yeah, still a little skimpy. [08:05] yeah [08:05] Really im just trying to learn linux and setup a linux/windows network at home to gain some experience [08:05] This one has 512, but to use much of it, I have to keep all my desktop apps open, then play UnrealTournament, too. Sounds like you're on the right machine, at the right time, though. [08:06] Well, That i got xubuntu on it im comfortable [08:06] with DSL it was a hassle [08:06] I couldnt just load and be online, i had to run ndiswrapper each time [08:06] and only a handful of programs actually would work on it [08:07] at least here i can use programs and such that im familiar with on ubuntu [08:07] Well, a $50 router-box might remove the hassle- one of those 'whole house' routers? Then it's easy on the laptop, just plugging into ethernet. [08:07] Oh, thats the other thing [08:07] the PCMCIA slot is burnt out on this machine [08:07] Darn. [08:07] so i have to connect wifi, and it has no ethernet slot [08:07] like i said, its a pos [08:07] And let me guess: no built-in. Bummer. [08:07] however, im just trying to make it work [08:07] hell no [08:07] :) [08:08] its like a 12x cdrom drive [08:08] however, since we are on the subject [08:08] Ya know, it's possible your machine is older than mine! :> That makes me feel a tiny bit better. [08:08] do you know of a burning rom that will burn Lightscribe cds? [08:08] how can i prevent media player from starting when i plug in my psp? [08:08] (i have a lightscribe drive on my desktop but have never used it, and ubu doesnt do it neither does VLC) [08:08] but i have some i wanna play with [08:09] I thought I saw one the other day; does Xcdroast? (That's such a new feature, I have no idea...) [08:09] I found something, but was unable to get it to work [08:09] For my next trick, i need to learn what works on what distros, and what doesnt === sutabi [n=sutabi@ip70-181-136-127.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] [08:09] It's pretty new tech...and so likely to be problematic. [08:10] Ive been told some apps work on all, and some dont, but i dont know how to determine [08:10] However im also running Familiar/Opie on my Palm Lifedrive and have learned that nothing works on that .... [08:10] Which i dont even know if thats a linux distro or not, its not on any timeline ive seen [08:10] On the same hardware, most (like 95%) of the apps should work the same. But when it comes to hardware things, that's where the most changes are. [08:11] Does your Palm not have a serial connection? (I have a couple of V's here, but they're very, very tired- and wanted something newer....) [08:11] no, its usb [08:11] Its wifi and bluetooth capable which is awesome [08:11] I always thought the "V" was the future, but they backed outta that product. Oh, well. Yeah, that sounds great! [08:12] Its really cool, however right now the thing that sucks is that the linux distro that is *in the works* is really slow and unstable [08:12] and doesnt have wifi capabilities yet [08:12] I was using mine as a security guard. Fabulous. I could take notes while not even looking at the screen, and the handwriting was always perfect, when it was done, 'cause it was text. My boss probably misses it, now. [08:12] So, i still use Palm OS more often [08:13] I make spreadsheet trackers for my work and can use them on windows, but i want a version that i can also use on linux, making them portable and *to the minute* accurate [08:13] I really wish they'd have licensed the handwriting long ago; make it cheap and the whole world would be using it. [08:13] however, with linux on the lifedrive being so slow ... its of no use [08:14] Yeah...unless....VMWare? [08:14] i have to use documents to go instead of Open Office, which D2G doesnt port over .xls documents as well [08:14] Whats VMware? [08:14] A way to run a carefully-controlled instance of [insert Windows version here] on top of Linux. Makes it all nice and safe. [08:15] I'm assuming the Pilot needs to connect to a desktop, though... [08:15] Well... [08:15] Yes and no? [08:15] If you want to sync with a lifedrive you can upload to the internet and download if need be [08:15] however it would be much more efficiant if you could plug in and synch [08:16] But i am assuming that VMware is for a desktop, not mobile managers/pdas/smartphones [08:17] The nice thing about VMWare, other than the price, is that you can 'cage' an instance of Windows...and actually keep it from freaking out due to a virus. It has a 'persistant disk' that you can remove all kinds of important system files, muck it up good, then "reboot" the window, and it's all back to the way it was. Fabulous. === jbrouhard [n=jbrouhar@24.121.169.166] has joined #xubuntu [08:17] And yeah...desktop; sorry. [08:17] What's a good wifi manager for xubuntu ? [08:17] jbrouhard; let me know if you find out! [08:17] Hmm. Good question. === jbrouhard is running it on the laptop and could use a decent gui [08:17] Thats also on my list of things to do.... [08:17] heh [08:17] Currently i'm using command line sudo iwconfig but I'd prefer a gui to keep it simple when I need to [08:18] I was just going to set it up, on my little box in the trailer....'hard code' the thing. [08:18] your using iwconfig ? [08:18] or iwlist [08:18] ? [08:18] Well, you could learn Zenity, put it all in a cute little script. [08:18] (And then under a single icon) [08:18] iwconfig [08:18] Okay, to connect [08:19] i use iwlist only if i don't know the access point SSID :) [08:19] I need something to show me available networks and signal strenght [08:19] mattgyver83: same here [08:19] I was able to use knetwork manager for that [08:19] in xubuntu? [08:19] Yeah [08:19] Okay [08:19] i had instlled kubuntu first, then xfce-desktop [08:20] If you could work out the underlying script to make that happen in bash (or whatever) you could have Zenity dress it up for you... [08:20] I wish someone made a firefox wifi extension that works for linux [08:20] their is one for windows [08:20] that would be awesome [08:20] heh [08:20] mattgyver83: try network-manager ? [08:20] okay [08:20] no [08:21] todays my first day on xubuntu [08:21] but i will check [08:21] anything i can find will work [08:21] Oh, crap! It's 0120 here. I have a meeting in the morning! See ya, guys! === WheelDweller [n=brian@mx10.fahrlander.net] has left #xubuntu [] [08:23] Oh [08:23] mattgyver83: system -> Administration -> Networking according to https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/internet/C/connect-to-internet.html#wireless [08:23] Can you download the ubuntu bots something one can download? it would be cool to just login, ask yourself a question and get some sort of answer... [08:24] that was a tad redundant [08:24] Cool, thanks === BrendanM [n=mccollam@93-6.res.pomona.edu] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [08:33] So I have a laptop connected to an external monitor. How do I adjust the settings for the external monitor? [08:34] Like clone vs. extended desktop, etc? === BrendanM [n=mccollam@93-6.res.pomona.edu] has left #xubuntu [] === BrendanM [n=mccollam@93-6.res.pomona.edu] has joined #xubuntu === Lunis`Away is now known as Lunis`SLEEP === jbrouhard [n=jbrouhar@24.121.169.166] has left #xubuntu ["WeeChat] [08:56] Anyone know how to set an external monitor to be an extended desktop instead of clone mode? [08:57] The video card is an ATI Radeon Mobility [08:59] How do you add programs to the applications menu? Can this be done without add/remove? [09:06] mattgyver83, do you just want to add a shortcut? [09:06] or are you trying to install a new program? [09:07] shortcut [09:08] Unfortunately the menu editor in Xubuntu doesn't work well, so your best bet is to go to /usr/share/applications and create a new *****.desktop file there. You can look at some of the existing shortcuts to see how to format it correctly. [09:08] Then just make a new one with mousepad. [09:09] and it'll appear in the menu. You might have to refresh the desktop. [09:09] Okay, thanks! [09:09] no problem === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === gsuveg [n=gsuveg@ubuntu/member/gsuveg] has joined #xubuntu [09:22] re === ceil420 [n=Ceil@71-11-245-60.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch === TheSheep [i=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #xubuntu === Balaams_Miracle [n=balaam@g175073.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #xubuntu === mecannotread [n=josef@124.81.156.3] has joined #xubuntu === JRL01192 [n=razor@adsl-146-113-182.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:04] !repos [10:04] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource [10:05] !ask [10:05] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [10:12] !botsnack [10:12] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! === BrendanM [n=mccollam@93-6.res.pomona.edu] has left #xubuntu [] === JohanSalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-71-228.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === K3rl0u4rn [n=yrenard@82.249.94.76] has joined #xubuntu === OwdGitRon [n=ron@88-110-12-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === nikolam [n=nikola@adsl-216-182.eunet.yu] has joined #xubuntu [11:08] Hello to all === chosig [i=gunnar@xenanders.adm.kazon.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:27] I have the stranges problem, my system is mounted and ready (install done and working), but when I try to run hdparm it sais that there isn't a /dev/hda folder... which there truly isn't. but according to fstab and mount / is mounted on /dev/hda [11:27] on /dev/hda1 even [11:29] looks like this place is dead lol [11:30] It should be /dev/sda1. [11:30] (And fstab should be using UUIDs.) [11:30] o_0 [11:31] depends if it is a sata disk or not.. [11:31] it's an ide... [11:31] istallend on an old piii600 i had in the closet [11:31] It doesn't matter which it is, since the libata change. [11:31] They both use the same naming comvention, now. [11:31] yeah [11:32] just understood that... sda worked... i've gotta have been in the sun for too long today :P [11:32] oh ok :] === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === mecannotread [n=josef@124.81.144.64] has joined #xubuntu === elbing [n=elbing@201.pool85-60-24.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #xubuntu === Bysmeden [n=Fredrik_@81-233-82-204-no74.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu === Bysmeden [n=Fredrik_@81-233-82-204-no74.tbcn.telia.com] has left #xubuntu ["Lmnar"] === mecannotread [n=josef@124.81.158.57] has joined #xubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@166.Red-81-37-90.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu [01:04] I don't know who is evesdropping but they have been hard at work for 5 days now recording my keystrokes from 1:00pm-2:30pm, 4:00pm-1:00 am [01:04] oops === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACD57162.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-16-175.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === jplever [n=jplever@cpc5-cmbg4-0-0-cust175.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === Wankus [n=Wankus@bb-87-82-13-51.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [02:00] I was checking my auth.log today and I spotted this: "Main-PC su[26519] : Successful su for jim by root", unfortunately jim has no administer privileges. What's going on? [02:01] how do you check your logs? [02:01] Wankus: looks like root su-ed to jim [02:02] a user with sudo could have: sudo su jim [02:03] pleia2: jim has no administer privileges. Jim is completely inept with computers! [02:03] Wankus: right, he didn't do the su command, someone used su to become jim [02:03] s/someone/someone with sudo [02:03] the only person who can use sudo is me, and I was asleep at that time! [02:04] ah, interesting :) [02:04] have i been hacked? [02:07] I read recently there was an exploit to sudo yourself in UbuntU I THINK i JUST SKIMPED BY THE TITLE [02:07] I didn't look into it [02:08] You got the link JRL01192? [02:09] sorry it was around one those hack sites like astalavista or something around there [02:09] I usually go around there to learn Programing [02:09] ah ok, [02:10] but I am not 100% sure [02:10] Ok, I'll check it thanks [02:11] Wankus: you can also check all the cron jobs on the machine, there might be a valid reason for root becoming the jim user [02:12] pleia2: How would I check that? I've checked my auth.logs and so far I haven't ever seen jim (or any other user) becoming root before. [02:13] These are the lines from auth.log anyway: [02:13] Aug 7 09:29:22 Main-PC su[26519] : Successful su for jim root [02:13] Aug 7 09:29:22 Main-PC su[26519] : + ??? root:jim [02:14] Aug 7 09:29:22 Main-PC su[26519] : (pam_unix) session opened for user jim (uid=0) [02:14] Wankus: you can browse /etc/cron.d (and cron.daily/ , hourly, monthly, weekly) [02:14] also: sudo crontab -u root -l [02:14] ok, I'll check that [02:14] what does the " sudo crontab -u root -l" do? [02:15] -u == user; -l == list [02:15] so you list the crontab entries for user root [02:15] ok ta [02:16] " sudo crontab -u root -l" gives "no crontab for root" [02:16] Wankus: yeah, that's normal [02:16] just one of the places to check :) [02:16] true, thanks [02:18] Ok, I don't think someody hacked me over the internet because I just remembered my modem was disconnected from the internet at that time. [02:19] that's good :) [02:20] But I'm stil a bit worried, I've gone a bit paranoid these days [02:21] you should be with all the hacking activity going on in Russia and it's recent attacks on the web [02:22] Really? Didn't know about that. [02:23] Now I'm even more worried, :( [02:23] :-P [02:24] JRL01192: stop scaring people :) [02:24] lol, Is there anyway I can upload the relevant parts of the file, so that I can post it here? Like imageshack but for text files? [02:25] !pastebin [02:25] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [02:26] Ta [02:26] back in a jiffy [02:26] scaring people, just be glad for me not going into details :-X [02:27] glad of me* [02:32] Here we go - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32914/ [02:34] The bit I'm, concerned about starts from line 27 [02:45] So is there something fishy going on there or am I just being a tad too batshit? === Wankus [n=Wankus@bb-87-82-13-51.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu === Wankus [n=Wankus@bb-87-82-13-51.ukonline.co.uk] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === Bysmeden [n=Fredrik_@81-233-82-204-no74.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:17] hi al.. [03:17] all [03:18] need help on my install.. installed "oem" and when boot up i only got login , === Wankus [n=Wankus@bb-87-82-13-51.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === sampbar [n=sampbar@unaffiliated/sampbar] has joined #xubuntu === Gamienator [n=gamienat@p54B249C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:26] Hi there, have a ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x 3D Rednering Support ? [03:26] Rendering, sorry === R[a] ndom [n=random@dhcp-0-9-5b-fe-6a-d9.cpe.i-zoom.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:34] !ati | Gamienator [03:34] Gamienator: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [03:35] thx === Gamienator [n=gamienat@p54B249C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu [] === JRL01192 [n=razor@adsl-146-113-182.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #xubuntu [] === JRL01192 [n=razor@adsl-146-113-182.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu === zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177961947.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@80-235-70-209-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === genii [n=user@host6411912762.biz.tor.fcibroadband.com] has joined #xubuntu === gnomeBoy [n=alexande@manz-590cd72f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #xubuntu === jeeGr [n=jere@a84-230-208-214.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu [04:49] hey how do i change the theme in my xubuntu === gnomeBoy [n=alexande@manz-590cd72f.pool.einsundeins.de] has left #xubuntu [] [04:52] jeeGr - menu -> Settings -> User Interface Settings [04:53] zials, ok i but if i want some theme from xfce-look.org how do i install it?? [04:53] which type of theme is it? (gtk / xfce) [04:53] xfce [04:54] mhmm, never tried one of those... [04:55] I guess you could put it in ~/.theme [04:55] err, thats ~/.themes [04:56] i cant find themes?? [04:57] make it then [04:57] but, make sure you have hidden folders enabeled [04:57] ctrl + h or view -> show hidden folders [04:58] thx === jeeGr [n=jere@a84-230-208-214.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === Pazy [n=paul@host86-135-225-91.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:15] I want to install Xubuntu as an alternative to KDE on my current Kubuntu install is this possible? [05:17] Pazy: it is, just install xubuntu-desktop package and you will have all the xubuntu dependencies [05:17] Thanks [05:18] you're welcome === TuxRox [n=garrett@134.242.21.254] has joined #xubuntu [05:21] I just burned a xubuntu 7.04 CD. I booted it up and it is asking for a user name and password. 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[07:15] excuse me [07:15] i'm an italian boy === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #xubuntu [07:15] lol, no no .. i was just curious [07:16] please,excuse me for my bad english [07:16] i have installed xubuntu on my lifebook [07:16] but i don't know how i can configure my pcmcia card [07:21] genii: I'm check through the 3 files that you've memtioned. didn't find any unusual activities. Someone told me it could be memory leak from firefox. [07:22] clefia: The symptoms you described of slowdoen then stop fit the description for a memory leak, yes. === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-46.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [07:23] clefia:What version firefox is on it? [07:25] genii: 2.0.0.6, i have the same problem even before i upgraded from 2.0.0.4 a few days ago [07:26] i'm seeing 8 instants of firefox-bin in htop, is this normal? [07:27] clefia: Bleh. i remember 1.5 series also had some memory leak issue with xfce. Did not know about the 2.0.0.X series also. If it persists you may want to use some other browser === xBill [n=dario@p5494DE74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:28] clefia: I think you may want to cycle thru them by alt-tab and close the ones you are not immediately using === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h42n4c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:31] genii: I just have 2 windows but 10+ tabs [07:31] of firefox [07:32] clefia: When you have active content like flash in many of the tabs it causes grief === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu [07:35] genii: i understand. I just wished the system would let me kill firefox but it becomes so unresponsive that I have to force restart === Lunis`SLEEP is now known as Lunis [07:37] clefia: Well, I would normally do then is hit crtl-alt-esc then put the skull on firefox window and click :) === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d37-112.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:39] genii: ah thanks. i didn't knew there's a shotcut for xkill. I push alt+ctrl+del. the screen saver came up and lagged the system even more XD === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACD57162.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:41] clefia: You may want to use another browser for casual surfing like iceweasel === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACD57162.ipt.aol.com] has left #xubuntu [] [07:47] genii: I need to ask of you another favor. Can you help me check if there is any issue with my system from this screenshot of my htop output? for 3 months I've installed and use Xubuntu feisty, from time to time, my system will run out of memory to a crawl till it's unusable [07:47] then it's hitting the restart button, I have 320mb of sdram an 256mb of swap [07:47] i've got firefox and gaim opened everytime I ran out of memory is there a log on my system that can tell me what's wrong? [07:47] sorry, ignore my post. I paste the wrong message [07:48] please forgive my spamming [07:48] clefia: Unfortunately today i do not have much time away from work for extended help :( === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:50] genii: no problem. I apreciated the advice you have given. thanks for you time [07:55] clefia: I hope you get the assistance you need on this. Til it gets sorted out you may want to use another browser, there are at least a few i know of besides firefox ... iceweasel (but it uses the same sort of engine) dillo (different engine) opera (not free unfortunately) galeon === xBill [n=dario@p5494DE74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === genii [n=user@host6411912762.biz.tor.fcibroadband.com] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === OwdGitRon [n=ron@88-110-12-187.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === mattgyver83 [n=chatzill@pool-71-252-5-65.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === emdash [i=dotsony@estrella.triplehelix.org] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-182-66.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-182-66.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === Lunis [n=Lunis@74.197.83.214] has joined #xubuntu [08:59] Question: How do you keep XFCE (and Gnome, for that matter) from opening an audio player when you plug in a PSP? === jwishnie [n=jwishnie@dsl081-240-154.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:01] having trouble with GtkFileChooser under Xubuntu, t does not display mounted volumes (USB sticks) in the places bar on the left [09:02] view of GTK documentation suggests this should be automatic, Has anyone seen this? [09:04] jwishnie: just a moment, let me check a couple things ... i have very little experience with GtkFileChooser [09:04] jwishnie: oooh, you mean from inside applications? [09:05] correct [09:05] to reproduce, insert a USB key [09:05] notice that it appears on desktop and in Thunar places bar (left side) [09:05] jwishnie: right [09:06] According to GNOME docs, it _should_ appear in Open/Save panel (GtkFileChooser) from applications [09:06] Open 'Mousepad', choose 'Save' [09:06] note that the USB stick does not appear in the places section on left === elbing [n=elbing@181.Red-81-44-214.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:06] jwishnie: i am actually not on xubuntu, i am at work on a debian etch workstation [09:07] maxamillion: What is your desktop environment? Gnome or XFCE4? [09:07] jwishnie: neither .... pypanel+openbox [09:07] maxamillion: you will not be able to reproduce [09:07] jwishnie: probably not .... but i will be able to at home because i have a xubuntu machine at home [09:08] jwishnie: have you checked launchpad for bug reports? [09:08] maxamillion: see this link and search for "Volumes" (match case) for a description of the intended behavior: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.2/gtk/GtkFileChooser.html [09:08] maxamillion: am attempting to (search Launchpad) [09:09] jwishnie: oh ok === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === rr3s [n=rodrigor@84.77.166.251] has joined #xubuntu [09:50] hiho [09:50] hi hyper_ch [09:50] TheSheep: so, I got a new apartment ;) [09:51] hyper_ch: you lucky monster [09:51] TheSheep: it's a nice one... [09:52] hyper_ch: with a swimming pool for sharks? [09:52] sure :) [09:52] how comes apache loses grounds to IIS? ;( [09:52] hyper_ch: --> #xubuntu-offtopic [09:52] *grmbl* [09:54] TheSheep: I have too many channels open [09:54] hyper_ch: shame [09:54] ;) === Dr`Maison [n=fred@62.147.164.174] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@67-150-252-96.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === genii [n=user@host6411912762.biz.tor.fcibroadband.com] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] [11:03] anyone got a problem? [11:04] hyper_ch: still need help getting mounted-USB drives to show up in Open/Save panels from GTK applications. Any ideas? [11:05] jwishnie: nope :) [11:05] jwishnie: try accessing it with thunar [11:05] and then open some gtk app and check if it's there then? [11:06] hyper_ch: no, does not appeer [11:06] hyper_ch: Thunar displays it properly (as does the desktop) but Save/Open panels do not display [11:06] well, that's what I noticed... mine doesn't show in konqueror before I haven't it accressed first by thunar [11:07] hyper_ch: right. that's because by default it isn't mounted until you open it in Thunar === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-46.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [11:08] jwishnie: so it works now? [11:08] hyper_ch: do you see it in panels from GTK apps? [11:08] hyper_ch: no. still does not display [11:08] hyper_ch: (in GTK apps) [11:08] I first need to find a gtk app ;) [11:08] hyper_ch: mousepad is a pretty simple one [11:09] hmmm, I left my usb stick at work [11:10] hyper_ch: same problem with any mountable device--floppy, cd, dvd [11:11] dunno === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === mindframe [n=mindfram@69.2.35.56] has joined #xubuntu === colossus73 [n=gt@ip-152-39.sn3.eutelia.it] has joined #xubuntu [11:27] hi [11:28] I have a problem with the microphone, this is the output of arecord --list-devices: [11:28] **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** [11:28] card 0: MCP04 [NVidia MCP04] , device 0: Intel ICH [NVidia MCP04] [11:28] Subdevices: 1/1 [11:28] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [11:28] card 0: MCP04 [NVidia MCP04] , device 1: Intel ICH - MIC ADC [NVidia MCP04 - MIC ADC] [11:28] Subdevices: 1/1 [11:28] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [11:28] it should be detected shouldn't be? [11:28] !pastebin | colossus73 [11:28] colossus73: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [11:28] colossus73: if it is longer than 3 lines, please use pastebin === cellofellow [n=josh@72-55-208-253.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [11:29] colossus73: have you checked the device in xfce4-mixer? [11:29] please accet my apologies, I forgot! [11:29] no [11:29] what shall I see? [11:29] I see a slider under microphone [11:29] under Mic [11:29] and the volume is set to maximum [11:30] any clue? [11:32] colossus73: not off the top of my head no :( ... i unfortunately haven't had any issues with microphones aside from having to turn up the volume on them [11:32] which are your setting in alsaconf? [11:32] I have 2 mic but I connected only one... [11:32] so why two mics? [11:38] colossus73: do you have 2 places a mic can be connected to your computer? there is probably and entry for each port [11:40] ok === highvoltage [n=highvolt@broadband-196-1-61-46.amobia.co.za] has joined #xubuntu === Balaams_Miracle [n=balaam@g175073.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-252-96.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu