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[01:26] <nosrednaekim> what is lpia?
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:mhb] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | anyone want to help port kde/qt to lpia - Low Power on Intel Architecture?
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[02:22] <nixternal> I OBJECT!
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[02:25] <nosrednaekim> does that "intel architecture" include AMD's?
[02:27] <ScottK> nosrednaekim: From the name, I'd guess not.
[02:27] <ScottK> nixternal: To what do you object?
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> well, it is still an intel architecture...
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> i'm reading about it right now though to check
[02:28] <nixternal> I think I rejected something about amarok2 being uploaded
[02:29] <nixternal> apachelogger: I don't have the powah to reject...plus I have already built your package locally and it is running as we speak :)
[02:29] <crimsun> yes, Intel architecture includes AMDs unless the latter explicitly states an extension, like 64-bit.
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> look at the little Asus eeePC that they have on thier main page. I guess thats what made them do it.
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[02:30] <nosrednaekim> it seems its mostly for Intel hardware though.
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> After reading their website
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> or at least thatsmy impression
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> http://www.intel.com/technology/systems/lpia/
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[03:12] <jjesse> heello Hobbsee
[03:12] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: EA sucks :)
[03:12] <Hobbsee> heya jjesse, DaSkreech
[03:12] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: why in particular this time?
[03:12] <ScottK> EA?
[03:12] <Hobbsee> ScottK: electronic arts
[03:12] <ScottK> Electronic Arts?
[03:13] <ScottK> OK.
[03:13] <DaSkreech> you have to sign up to get Sims Music if you are not from the US
[03:13] <Tm_T> hah
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[03:13] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: nice, nice....
[03:13] <ScottK> The other thought I had was Electronic Attack.
[03:13] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: "sign up"?
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[03:13] <DaSkreech> Yeah join the Sims community
[03:14] <ScottK> From $IMPORTANT_CUSTOMER:
[03:14] <ScottK> ... any chance i could get some of our basic statisctics from our data set by 3 pm eastern tomorrow?
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[03:14] <ScottK> An they just redid the whole schema, so none of the canned queries work.
[03:14] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: oh, i'd have thougth you had a login.  that happens for most things.
[03:15] <ScottK> Ugh.
[03:15] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: for everywhere but hte US?
[03:16] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: dunno.  i've not been in the US :)
[03:16] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:17] <DaSkreech> Strange
[03:17] <DaSkreech> My Wireless works in Feisty but not in Gutsy
[03:17] <Hobbsee> besides.  it was useful to actually have a login, to do bits of advertising
[03:18] <Hobbsee> not that the site really needed it, it had enough popularity from sims 1
[03:18] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[03:18] <ScottK> DaSkreech: Some people seem to be having interesting network manager problems now and then.
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Describe "interesting"
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[04:03] <seele> mhb: any progress on the grub interface?
[04:03] <Hobbsee> hiya seele!
[04:04] <seele> hallo
[04:06] <ScottK> DaSkreech: Doesn't work for some particular hardware.  Does for others.
[04:06] <ScottK> calc was having a lot of trouble the other day.
[04:08] <DaSkreech> ScottK: that used to work?
[04:08] <ScottK> IIRC, yes.
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[04:15] <DaSkreech> That's regressionist!
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[05:14] <DaSkreech> hi hunger_t
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[05:36] <ScottK> Riddell: Bug #131016
[05:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 131016 in strigi "Strigi 0.5.4 in feisty-backports depends on dbus-X11 which is unavailable in Feisty" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131016
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[06:34] <nixternal> man, I walked into Tiger Direct today only planning on buying a new server case, a gig of ddr ram, and 2 case fans...
[06:34] <nixternal> that place is addicting
[06:35] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:38] <nixternal> everybody needs a tiger direct in their neighborhood
[06:38] <nixternal> I didn't think Kubuntu would see all of the cores with a -generic kernel
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[06:39] <nixternal> 4
[06:39] <nixternal> Kima sees the temps for each core
[06:39] <nixternal> ahh, and in top, 1 shows all 4 cores..neat
[06:40] <Hobbsee> nice
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[06:40] <nixternal> heh, it was under $500 for the complete rig, with 2x 250gb sata drives
[06:41] <nixternal> I went in just to spend around $100, and when I was waiting for my stuff to come from the warehouse, I starting looking at stuff, and a guy that works there is in one of my classes
[06:41] <nixternal> he laid everything out, and said a price, and I "non-reluctantly" said "OK"
[06:51] <DaSkreech> nixternal: have you ever been on the net but can't browse
[06:52] <nixternal> I am sure I have
[06:59] <DaSkreech> nixternal: any idea why that happens?
[07:02] <nixternal> can't say that I do...but I have noticed with my new Gutsy install with the new system, when browsing, it takes a second to go
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[08:30] <apachelogger_> nixternal: uh, ah, eh
[08:30] <apachelogger_> <-- confused
[08:30] <apachelogger_> nixternal: anyway, good that the monster is alive :D
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[09:15] <_StefanS_> morning
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[09:32] <_StefanS_> Riddell: morning, I would like to hear about the lpia kde/qt ? I'm kinda interested.
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[09:36] <_StefanS_> hey Hobbsee
[09:38] <Hobbsee> hi _StefanS_
[09:39] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: do you know anything about that lpia initiative (in the topic) ?
[09:50] <Hobbsee> _StefanS_: only very vaguely.  not what we're actually doing about it
[09:50] <_StefanS_> uhm ok
[09:51] <Hobbsee> _StefanS_: ask infinity in #ubuntu-devel
[09:51] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: ok I will, thanks :)
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[11:11] <Riddell> hi _StefanS_
[11:11] <_StefanS_> hey
[11:12] <Riddell> make a chroot with   sudo debootstrap --arch lpia gutsy chroot http://ports.ubuntu.com/
[11:13] <Riddell> where "chroot" is a directory
[11:13] <Riddell> add a deb-src source line from a normal i386 install
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[11:14] <Riddell> apt-get source qt-x11-free
[11:14] <Riddell> debuild
[11:14] <_StefanS_> Riddell: where should the deb-src source be added?
[11:14] <Riddell> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:14] <_StefanS_> and should it contain lpia ?
[11:15] <_StefanS_> instead of i386
[11:15] <Riddell> deb lines don't contain the architecture
[11:15] <_StefanS_> oh couldn't remember :) ofcourse.
[11:15] <_StefanS_> I already have deb-src lines in there
[11:16] <_StefanS_> its downloading all the stuff it needs now
[11:16] <_StefanS_> actually its already unpacking.
[11:16] <Riddell> you'll only have src line for ports.ubuntu
[11:16] <Riddell> you want a normal src line
[11:16] <_StefanS_> oh
[11:16] <Riddell> there will be a tonne of qt dependencies which are not yet built for lpia
[11:16] <Riddell> so you need to download each of those and check and test if they build ok
[11:17] <Riddell> and each of those may have other dependencies
[11:17] <Riddell> the big ones will be mysql and the like
[11:17] <Riddell> some things to check for are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Bootstrap
[11:17] <Riddell> if packages need changing, send me debdiffs
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[11:21] <_StefanS_> Riddell: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted is ok?
[11:22] <_StefanS_> Riddell: the Qt dependecies, what packages do you mean ? entire kde or ?
[11:23] <_StefanS_> Riddell: uhm, I think I get it now
[11:24] <Riddell> yes
[11:25] <Riddell> whatever qt needs to build
[11:27] <_StefanS_> Riddell: any way to see where a given package comes from repo-wise?
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[11:37] <Riddell> ScottK: apt-get source foo  will get the source package
[11:37] <Riddell> apt-cache showsrc foo  will show the source package
[11:37] <_StefanS_> Riddell: uhm what about missing packages.. like libmng-dev ?
[11:37] <_StefanS_> Riddell: whats the procedure for getting that in ?
[11:38] <Riddell> 10:16 < Riddell> there will be a tonne of qt dependencies which are not yet built for lpia
[11:38] <Riddell> 10:16 < Riddell> so you need to download each of those and check and test if they build ok
[11:38] <_StefanS_> Riddell: oh :) get the source, and fix the dep package :)
[11:38] <Riddell> and the dependecnies your new package has too
[11:38] <Riddell> it's long slow work I'm afraid
[11:39] <_StefanS_> wowsers.. thats alot of work indeed.
[11:39] <_StefanS_> I will take a package at a time then :)
[11:42] <Riddell> yeah, just do what you can
[11:43] <_StefanS_> Riddell: seems like most of it is adding lpia to the rules file
[11:52] <Riddell> _StefanS_: where?
[11:52] <Riddell> if the package does something special for i386, then yes you need to make it do the same for lpia
[11:53] <Riddell> also lpia uses gcc 4.2 which might make some breakage, although qt/kde should be fine
[12:05] <mhb> hello
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[12:20] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I'm compiling liblcms1 and it seems to use python-2.5, but the scripts aren't adapted to it that. Shouldn't it use python-2.4 ?
[12:20] <_StefanS_> -to
[12:22] <Riddell> which scripts?
[12:23] <Riddell> it's just a library as far as  dpkg -L liblcms1  tells me
[12:24] <_StefanS_> uhm, its when it creates the -dev package it fails, attempting to use 2.4 but actually it was built with 2.5 instead. let me find the example.
[12:25] <Riddell> has it compiled succesfully on i386?
[12:28] <_StefanS_> Riddell: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/33015/
[12:28] <_StefanS_> Riddell: It seems to me like the buildscripts was not updated at some point
[12:29] <_StefanS_> Riddell: anyways. it works now
[12:30] <Riddell> works now?  did you change something?
[12:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: only 2.4 -> 2.5 in the build script
[12:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I'm building mysql now..
[12:31] <_StefanS_> Riddell: it needs ghostscript.. fixing that now.
[12:31] <Riddell> _StefanS_: sounds like a good change :)
[12:32] <_StefanS_> probably ;)
[12:32] <_StefanS_> seems an easy task though..
[12:32] <_StefanS_> I'm working my way to throught it.
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[12:36] <Riddell> thanks, much appreciated
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[12:40] <_StefanS_> oh gotta pick up my new center speaker. bbl.
[12:40] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I will give you a heads up later.
[12:41] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I'm building mesa now.
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[01:40] <ScottK> Riddell: I'm not sure what the apt-get source foo comment was about.
[01:42] <Riddell> ScottK: it was intended for _StefanS_
[01:42] <ScottK> Ah.
[01:42] <ScottK> No wonder then.  Thanks.
[01:46] <mhb> Riddell: on second thoughts, kio-apt could be useful if it could be extended to conform to the  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/apt-firefox-archive-handler spec
[01:47] <mhb> it'd be cool to have kubuntu.org announcements "want to install KDE4? Click here and here."
[01:47] <mhb> first would add a ppa and second install the metapackage
[01:54] <Riddell> fdoving is probably the dude to point that to
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[01:57] <mhb> actually adding such functionality is really a one day task
[01:57] <mhb> well, perhaps not repository adding, but package install
[01:58] <mhb> we already have the protocol half-done, all it takes is to write  a simple wrapper that calls "kdesu adept_batch install " + packagename
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[02:11] <fdoving> mhb, i'll try to have a look at that neat feature later today.
[02:12] <mhb> fdoving: groovy, thanks a lot!
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[02:42] <_StefanS_> Riddell: apparently most of the build issues can actually be solved by making that 2.4 -> 2.5 change ..
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[02:52] <Riddell> _StefanS_: ok, make sure you keep notes on each package
[02:52] <_StefanS_> Riddell: doing that already :)
[02:52] <_StefanS_> Riddell: mysql is building now.
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[03:00] <_StefanS_> Riddell: postgres-sql building :D
[03:01] <Riddell> _StefanS_: no i386 specific stuff in mysql?
[03:02] <_StefanS_> Riddell: nope
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[03:26] <ScottK> apachelogger_: It's being moved into the data center.
[03:26] <apachelogger_> hm
[03:26] <apachelogger_> good thing I suppose
[03:27] <apachelogger_> Riddell: your comment on kio-sysinfo: "Why use 10.2 and not 10.3 from Factory?" ... my answer: "because different revisions of kdebase-suse are located in factory, and I don't have a proper (i.e. fast and reliable) code to fetch the latest, yet"
[03:27] <apachelogger_> also only artwork changed from 10.2 to factory AFAIK
[03:27] <apachelogger_> so at least for gutsy there is no reason to use factory
[03:27] <Riddell> ok
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[03:28] <Riddell> I believe sysinfo should be going into svn.opensuse.org at some point
[03:28] <apachelogger_> totally
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[04:14] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/kdm_idea.png
[04:14] <kwwii> comments? ideas?
[04:15] <Hobbsee> wow, kubuntu is black
[04:15] <jjesse> i like that
[04:15] <jjesse> that's cool :)
[04:16] <_StefanS_> +1 from me :)
[04:16] <apachelogger_> oh yeah, that's how I want it baby... arrrr
[04:16] <Riddell> I like it
[04:17] <jjesse> would that be for gutsy?
[04:17] <jjesse> i would use it
[04:17] <_StefanS_> I wonder if we could stuff some blackish in the kubuntu circle as well
[04:17] <_StefanS_> like a black outline or something to complement the new logo
[04:18] <_StefanS_> just an idea anyway..
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[04:19] <_StefanS_> Riddell: qt-x11-free is building now.
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[04:20] <_StefanS_> :D
[04:20] <datten> hi there :)
[04:21] <Riddell> hi datten
[04:22] <_StefanS_> completely off-topic: if someone is looking for a good kvm switch supporting usb, ATEN Petite CS-64U has extremely good picture and switching (works on linux as well)
[04:22] <datten> i just got the CDs for Froscon, i ordered 600 32Bit and 20064Bit Kubuntu CDs, i got 80+20 32/64Bit CDs but Ubuntu, that is never enough for Froscon :\
[04:24] <Riddell> datten: there's not much I can do, you need to e-mail info@ubuntu.com and hope
[04:25] <datten> Riddell, okay, may the hope be with me :)
[04:25] <apachelogger_> Riddell: can't you contact someone canonical internal? speed things up a bit, or something
[04:26] <Riddell> it's no faster for me to do it than for datten
[04:26] <apachelogger_> hm, ok :)
[04:26] <apachelogger_> oh, good news everyone, kio-sysinfo builds again
[04:26] <Riddell> and I don't have any special persuation powers, we had a similar issue with akademy CDs
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[04:35] <_StefanS_> Riddell: its done building now, with no errors  :)
[04:36] <Riddell> _StefanS_: rocking
[04:36] <_StefanS_> Riddell: yessir.. so it was just that change from 2.4 to 2.5 that was needed. And then a total rebuild of dependencies
[04:37] <Riddell> _StefanS_: on that one package?
[04:37] <_StefanS_> Riddell: yep.
[04:37] <Riddell> _StefanS_: got a debdiff?
[04:37] <_StefanS_> two secs
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[04:54] <_StefanS_> Riddell: its in your mail. Just a regular diff
[04:55] <bddebian> Heya
[05:03] <Riddell> _StefanS_: uploaded, thanks
[05:03] <Riddell> _StefanS_: for you have the list of packages which are needed for qt and known good for lpia?
[05:04] <_StefanS_> I didn't get that sentence :)
[05:05] <Riddell> _StefanS_: we need to pass the list of packages you've tested to infinity who will make the compile in the buildds
[05:05] <Riddell> s/for/do/
[05:06] <_StefanS_> Riddell: sent. Is there an easy way to get the ubuntu names of the packages?
[05:08] <Riddell> ubuntu names?
[05:08] <Riddell> you mean source package names?
[05:08] <_StefanS_> yep
[05:08] <Riddell> apt-cache showsrc foo | grep Package
[05:08] <_StefanS_> uhm ok
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[05:12] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I guess that list I just sent is sufficient
[05:12] <_StefanS_> showsrc really doesn't give me the deb names
[05:13] <Hobbsee> ahhhh....nice linux!
[05:13] <_StefanS_> Riddell: got it now. I actually know too little of apt :)
[05:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: its in your mail.
[05:16] <_StefanS_> Riddell: let me know if I should build something else
[05:17] <Riddell> _StefanS_: mysql does have some i386 specific build requirements
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[05:35] <Riddell> _StefanS_: can you try changing the i386 parts to "i386 lpia" ?
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[05:59] <Riddell> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/kubuntu+with+kde4+idea?content=63900  ug
[06:00] <jjesse> those aren't very nice looking in my opinion
[06:02] <Riddell> I agree
[06:02] <mhb> seele: not much, I'm dug with SoC and a fellow who volunteered to work on it has moved on as well...
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[06:07] <Riddell> mhb: pst, you could get her to review gdebi and restricted-manager as well
[06:09] <mhb> Riddell: she should be pretty busy with SoC herself, AFAIK
[06:09] <manchicken> Looks like there was some work on openoffice done.
[06:11] <manchicken> It seems like there are some dependency issues.  I'm gonna try removing and reinstalling the whole suite.
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[06:22] <manchicken>   openoffice.org-core: Depends: openoffice.org-common (> 2.3.0~src680m224) but 2.2.1-5ubuntu3 is to be installed.
[06:22] <manchicken> poop
[06:23] <Hobbsee> manchicken: it's all rebuilding.  dont bother yet
[06:23] <manchicken> Ah.  Righto.
[06:25] <nixternal> Riddell: that is a great piece of work you linked to
[06:25] <Hobbsee> nixternal: how are the t4 release notes, btw?
[06:25] <nixternal> going to start them today
[06:25] <nixternal> tomorrow is release right?
[06:26] <nixternal> hehe, I am always starting them the day before
[06:26] <Hobbsee> nixternal: "time is an illusion.  lunch time, doubly so"
[06:27] <Hobbsee> nixternal: one day, you'll live in a country where most people are not on your timezone, or even close, and you'll learn not to use "today" and "tomorrow".
[06:27] <Hobbsee> or you'll do business with a country like that
[06:27] <nixternal> JonathanRiddell   we love nixternal
[06:27] <nixternal> hahahah, nice comment on the Tribe 3 page
[06:27] <Hobbsee> nixternal: so, your "tomorrow" means close to nothing to me
[06:28] <nixternal> well it will be tomorrow for you as well won't it?
[06:28] <Hobbsee> nixternal: it's thursday here now - 2.30am.
[06:28] <Hobbsee> nixternal: so no, it'll be released today here.  if it doesnt blow up
[06:28] <nixternal> oh, well today then, it would be tomorrow for you as well if you would ever go to sleep
[06:28] <nixternal> ;)
[06:28] <Hobbsee> yeah, well.    it's weird goign to sleep, and waking up to it still being the same day.
[06:28] <nixternal> I am starting them now so people can add stuff while I get the vmware stuff up and running for some whicked screenies
[06:29] <nixternal> I know the feeling actually
[06:29] <Hobbsee> also "morning" and "this afternoon", and other such terms are not helpful, as i dont remembe ryour exact TZ
[06:29] <Hobbsee> usually a "in the next x hours" is the most effective
[06:30] <Hobbsee> nixternal: of course, what i said to you above applies to everyone :)
[06:31] <nixternal> hehe
[06:31] <Hobbsee> in the UK, and the US
[06:31] <Hobbsee> particularly the US, as they have so different timezones
[06:31] <nixternal> well everyone needs to get with CST - Chicago Standard Time :)
[06:31] <Hobbsee> whereas the UK and europe people tend to be spread mostly over 2.
[06:31] <nixternal> mainland US we have 4, then 20 more with Hawaii and Alaska
[06:32] <Hobbsee> exactly
[06:32] <nixternal> ya, it is quite silly...and I found out the whole reasoning behind it last year when Indiana decided to finally get with the "Daylight Savings Program"
[06:32] <nixternal> it was all about farming
[06:32] <nixternal> which I found hard to believe at first
[06:32] <Hobbsee> au has...3.  but tehy're fairly close
[06:33] <Hobbsee> the WA people cope, and people use EST (sydney, melbourne, etc) time.
[06:33] <nixternal> hehe
[06:33] <Hobbsee> (WA is 2 hours out, but it doesnt really matter - they convert easily)
[06:33] <Hobbsee> evertyhing else is only an hour out, or half an hour.
[06:33] <nixternal> -0500, -0600, -0700, and -0800 here in the continental us
[06:34] <Hobbsee> which is a big difference, if you dont know exactly which part they're in
[06:34] <nixternal> then during daylight savings time it is -4, -5, -6, -7
[06:34] <Hobbsee> of course, in au, most people dont live in perth - those who are on the internet, anyway
[06:34] <nixternal> haha
[06:34] <nixternal> I like Perth
[06:34] <Hobbsee> so that helps
[06:34] <Hobbsee> you've been to perth?
[06:34] <nixternal> that is where we would pull into port all of the time when we went to Australia
[06:34] <Riddell> _StefanS_: groovy, there's a mysql with the lpia changes already
[06:35] <nixternal> yes, I have been to Perth, about 7 times I think
[06:36] <Hobbsee> nixternal: ahhh....
[06:36] <jjesse> nixternal: when you were in the army or whatver right?
[06:37] <nixternal> Navy :)
[06:37] <kwwii> erm, how is one supposed to find bzr repos on launchpad anymore?
[06:37] <Riddell> kwwii: same way it's always been?
[06:37] <kwwii> where is kubuntu-default-settings, or instance
[06:38] <manchicken> nixternal was a pirate on the brimey seas!  Argh!
[06:38] <Riddell> launchpad.net/kubuntu-default-settings  -> code
[06:38] <kwwii> I used to find the package in launchpad and then bzr it from the link provided - that link is no longer there
[06:39] <Riddell> maybe it lost the product to package link
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[06:51] <kwwii> wow, that actually like triples the amount of time, great idea whoever did thought that one up
[06:51] <nixternal> haha
[06:51] <nixternal> no, I like the person who removed the "File a bug report" link from the left hand side to a red button on the right hand side
[06:52] <nixternal> after they did that, it took me 10 minutes to try and figure out how to file a damn bug, because I wasn't looking for a silly button
[06:59] <nixternal> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu
[06:59] <nixternal> OK, feel free to start adding stuff
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[07:24] <manchicken_> What's the link that'll tell me what's in binary new?
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[07:25] <Riddell> KubuntuFiles knows all
[07:30] <manchicken_> So would I look in the new queue to see if OpenOffice.org was done building?
[07:30] <manchicken_> Because I don't see openoffice.org-core in the queue, but it still has the same broken dependency that Hobbsee said I should ignore because it's still building.
[07:31] <manchicken_>   openoffice.org-core: Depends: openoffice.org-common (> 2.3.0~src680m224) but it is not installable
[07:31] <Riddell> no, openoffice isn't new
[07:31] <manchicken_> Then what is it?
[07:31] <manchicken_> All I can tell is that it's broken :)
[07:32] <manchicken_> I'm not one of the super-clever-packaging people like you and Tonio_ and Hobbsee :)
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[07:38] <hunger> manchicken: OOo is fixed now (at least it has no more conflicts for me).
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[07:44] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ok I wont make a mysql
[07:44] <ScottK> manchicken: You're mirror may not be updated yet.
[07:44] <manchicken> hunger: I'll update my apt cache and I'll try to update it again.
[07:44] <ScottK> I got that earlier today.
[07:44] <manchicken> ScottK: I'm using archive.ubuntu.com
[07:44] <ScottK> I'm downloading Office now.
[07:44] <manchicken> That's much better.
[07:47] <manchicken> Downloading and installing
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[07:57] <kwwii> Riddell: I just commited the kdm pic
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[08:02] <Riddell> kwwii: great (it'll miss the tribe CD, but there's always another one)
[08:02] <kwwii> Riddell: yeah, no worries - just thought I should mention it
[08:03] <kwwii> I don't follow tribe dates :-)
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[08:08] <ScottK2> Still no luck getting OOO to run under Kubuntu Gutsy (with all the current updates).
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[08:08] <ScottK2> Still get the same hang at the splash screen.
[08:09] <_StefanS_> ScottK2: great, I was just trying the same thing
[08:09] <ScottK2> Well this was supposed to fix it.
[08:14] <_StefanS_> OOo still doesn't work here either... great.
[08:14] <ScottK2> Riddell: Don't do the OOO happy dance just yet.
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[08:18] <manchicken> Okay, yeah, I get the same thing as you all.
[08:19] <manchicken> Poop.
[08:19] <manchicken> It's a much cooler splash screen, but still nothing more than that seems to be working.
[08:20] <ScottK2> Process hangs in the background too.
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[08:32] <george88a> hi all
[08:33] <george88a> does anyone know a workaround for the 'nspluginviewer takes 100% of CPU when a flash file is loaded in konqueror" ? :) (in gutsy)
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[08:55] <jjesse> george88a: i think there is a bug on launchpad on that, but don't remember for sure
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[09:03] <george88a> jjesse , I know that the bug is reported (in 2 places actually,and linked with openoffice and gtk, or something like that) and the 2 reports have a lot of replies,but no workaround :(
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[11:10] <manchicken_> nixternal: I'm actually in the middle of two separate tornado central areas, about to move into the outskirts of the one west/southwest of me.
[11:11] <ScottK> Meah.
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[11:12] <manchicken_> I'm pretty far south of Chicago.
[11:12] <manchicken_> I'm moving to Mahomet, IL.
[11:12] <ScottK> OK.  You get some slack then.
[11:12] <manchicken_> I've been in Champaign for a while.
[11:12] <ScottK> Ah.
[11:13] <manchicken_> I don't mind tornadoes.  I just make sure my family knows how to stay safe and I have insurance.
[11:13] <manchicken_> I chase the suckers from time to time.
[11:13] <ScottK> Exactly.
[11:13] <ScottK> I find that there is a certain smell in the air when they are coming.
[11:17] <ScottK> Kubuntu-alternate candidate CDs for Tribe 4 testing are up.
[11:40] <jjesse> yay
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[12:01] <Riddell> anyone seen a build failure like this before?  have I messed something up horribly somewhere? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8738407/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.adept_2.1.3ubuntu7_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:08] <nixternal> Kubuntu daily locks up at the "Unmounting and ejecting CD-ROM" for me constantly....and rebooting bring me to a useless grub prompt
[12:09] <ScottK> kubuntu desktop ready for testing
[12:10] <ScottK> Riddell: pkgmaintainermangler: Error: Unable to locate DEBIAN/control - pitti was talking about this earlier
[12:10] <manchicken_> Who do I talk to about updating my feed on the planet?
[12:11] <nixternal> manchicken_: you :)
[12:11] <ScottK> It's a pkgmaintainermangler problem.
[12:11] <Riddell> manchicken_: do it yourself
[12:11] <manchicken_> How?
[12:11] <Riddell> nixternal: why is grub prompt useless?
[12:11] <nixternal> I can't do anything with mine
[12:11] <Riddell> how did you get on there in the first place?
[12:11] <ScottK> Riddell: I'd just ask if the new pkgmaintainermangler is out and ask for a giveback.
[12:11] <nixternal> that is what I was rebooted to with an alternate daily
[12:11] <Riddell> hmm, can't find the wiki page for planet now
[12:12] <Riddell> but it's in launchpad under the ubuntu-planet product
[12:12] <nixternal> I don't think I had the 08/08 one though
[12:12] <nixternal> the 08/08 daily just hit the server didn't it?
[12:12] <manchicken_> Anybody gonna answer the "how" question?
[12:13] <manchicken_> Nevermind.
[12:13] <manchicken_> I missed the obvious
[12:13] <nixternal> manchicken_: bzr co the Planet from LP
[12:15] <nixternal> OK, going down for a bit
[12:15] <manchicken_> Man, that's a big checkout.