[12:15] <bo> Kanotix did its job best compared to all the other distros
[12:16] <bo> but I don't now what Kanotix makes different and how
[12:16] <bo> now=know
[12:16] <gandhii> there are things you can adjust in "system settings"  ...  but if it doesnt automatically recognize your monitor, I'd google that info and plug it into your xorg.conf file manually
[12:17] <stpg> hi
[12:18] <bo> I did a fresh Debian install on my old box where the settings were wrong
[12:18] <bo> I replaced the xorg.conf by that one from Kanotix
[12:20] <bo> this works well but I wonder how Kanotix has detected the right settings?
[12:20] <bo> I mean it's also based on Debian and therefor not far away from it
[12:21] <gandhii> no clue..  i'm just a newb  ;] 
[12:22] <bo> no one an idea how it works???
[12:22] <stpg> can anyone explain me how can i download latest build of software using apt-get. where is lib version 5.1-0_5.1.2 and i have installed 5.1-0_5.1.1. How can i force apt-get to download newer version?
[12:24] <bo> isn't it depending on your entries in the source.lst, stpg?
[12:25] <stpg> yes. and i open url from my source.list and where is newer version. but when i run apt-get update & upgrade - it do nothing
[12:27] <bo> how does your source.lst look like and which package are you targeting?
[12:28] <hsatera> is konversation better than xchat?
[12:28] <vzduch> hsatera: you try, you decide
[12:28] <gandhii> i'm digging kvirc
[12:28] <bo> its also a matter of taste I guess, hsatera
[12:28] <vzduch> indeed
[12:28] <gandhii> truly
[12:29] <stpg> one of the entry of source.list is "deb http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe" and i need to install this package http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/lua5.1/liblua5.1-0_5.1.2-1_i386.deb
[12:31] <stdin> !info liblua5.1-0 feisty
[12:31] <ubotu> liblua5.1-0: Simple, extensible, embeddable programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.1.1-2build1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 204 kB
[12:32] <stdin> stpg: the latest feisty version is  5.1.1-2build1
[12:32] <pagan0ne> hey, im having trouble with the sound on my feisty box... It was distorted, so I adjusted the "Multi Track Internal Clock" to 44100, now i have no sound at all, and every time i change it, it doesnt stay...
[12:32] <bo> oh, if you have already the package than download it and install it using "dpkg -i <your_package>"
[12:33] <stdin> ^ not a good idea
[12:34] <bo> why?
[12:34] <stdin> bo: dependency issues
[12:34] <stdin> bo: there's a reason it's not in the feisty repos
[12:34] <pagan0ne> any ideas on where to start fixing it?
[12:34] <stpg> i see 8( so i can't install package even if it is located in universe repository?
[12:35] <bo> but I thought that dpkg will also resolve them correctly, but maybe I am wrong
[12:35] <stdin> bo, stpg: that version is the gutsy version, not the feisty one
[12:36] <K-Ryan> Hi everyone, I'm trying to ./configure something and I get configure: error: Cannot find glib: Is glib-config in path?
[12:36] <K-Ryan> What do I do about that?
[12:36] <stdin> and seeing as you don't have the gutsy repos, then apt can't fix that
[12:36] <stdin> K-Ryan: installed build-essential ?
[12:36] <K-Ryan> stdin: Pretty sure, I'll try again though
[12:37] <K-Ryan> Yeah, it's the newest version/
[12:37] <K-Ryan> * .
[12:37] <pagan0ne> so, no takers on my sound issue?
[12:37] <stpg> thanks
[12:37] <genii> stdin Could also be non-debian/ubuntu default settings for paths in configure file
[12:38] <stdin> libglib1.2-dev: /usr/bin/glib-config
[12:39] <MartinWinkler> Cavte
[12:40] <MartinWinkler> Je tu niekto?
[12:43] <bneal> hey does anyone know a good guide for xgl+beryl with an ati card i've tried a couple and no success
[12:45] <jhutchins> !sound | pagan0ne
[12:45] <ubotu> pagan0ne: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:46] <jay__> there's a guide on this page: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[12:46] <Ralesk> hi all, I'm using Gutsy at the moment (yeah, I know, bleeding edge) and noticed that nspluginviewer locks up in konqueror all the time (and unfortunately gnash isn't quite ready for most uses yet)... is this a known issue?
[12:47] <jay__> does anyone know how to make the taskbar only show windows from the current desktop with beryl & kde?
[12:47] <stdin> jay__: you can't
[12:48] <jay__> ok. thanks. at least i can stop looking now!
[12:50] <zipper> Are there any msn messenger clients for linux that supports webcams?
[12:51] <Riddell> kopete should in theory
[12:51] <mayeco>  in theory...
[12:51] <Tm_T> it works
[12:52] <Ralesk> used it a couple times, works usually
[12:52] <apetrescu> I can also confirm, Kopete's webcam works
[12:52] <Ralesk> eats my CPU though.
[12:52] <Ralesk> but I blame the webcam :P
[12:52] <Tm_T> yup, webcam eats cpu, but atleast it works (:
[12:53] <zipper> cool, thanks a lot
[12:53] <zipper> eats cpu... as in i need a quadcore to actually use it or?
[12:53] <Tm_T> naah
[12:53] <pagan0ne> how would i check to see if the sound card drivers are loaded?
[12:53] <Tm_T> anything with over GHZ should work
[12:53] <Ralesk> As an addition to my nspluginviewer problem: I just tried downgrading flash to 9.0.31 (or what it was before latest) and it locks up just the same, and it used to work on this machine, so it's likely not an adobe problem (although they're easy to blame in anything ^_^)
[12:53] <Tm_T> maybe slowers
[12:54] <zipper> Tm_T, okay, i should be safe then. Thanks again.
[12:54] <Tm_T> np
[12:54] <nicon_> Hello
[12:54] <nicon_> I got little problem
[12:54] <nicon_> Can smb help me?
[12:54] <Ralesk> ask away, nicon_
[12:54] <nicon_> 1st. locale
[12:54] <zipper> So what, when someone "invites" you to use their webcam, it shows up like regular webcam? Sorry, but i never really used that feature, and even less in linux
[12:54] <nicon_> 2nd. codecs to audio
[12:54] <Tm_T> zipper: in it's own window yes
[12:55] <Tm_T> zipper: if got any problems, poke me, I have fiddled with it quite much
[12:55] <Ralesk> zipper: it'll open a separate window
[12:55] <zipper> Tm_T, okay... i probably will :)
[12:55] <zipper> i dont suppose you've tried capturing the footage as well?
[12:55] <Tm_T> nope
[12:55] <nicon_> Can smb tell me where can i find good codecs do audio (gigabyte m55s-s3)?
[12:55] <nicon_> to*
[12:56] <Ralesk> zipper: the only (decent) program I know for that is on Windows... any suggestions for linux welcome :D
[12:56] <Tm_T> !mp3 | nicon_
[12:56] <ubotu> nicon_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:56] <zipper> nicon_, if you're using amarok, it asks you if you want to install the codec when you try to play the file. Well, at least for mp3 it does
[12:56] <zipper> Ralesk, whats that program for windows called?
[12:56] <nicon_> zipper: I use banshee
[12:56] <Tm_T> zipper: Mercury does record, but also with only 2 fps
[12:56] <Ralesk> Easy Screen Recorder I think
[12:56] <nicon_> And allways when I try to install some codecs...
[12:56] <nicon_> I got problems with that
[12:56] <nicon_> Because when it's playing music...
[12:56] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how to fix this? configure: error: Cannot find glib: Is glib-config in path?
[12:56] <nicon_> And i'll run movie @youtube.com...
[12:56] <zipper> Tm_T, that doesnt really sound like its usable then
[12:57] <zipper> nicon_, is that for linux?
[12:57] <Ralesk> it's pretty decent, I've tried some others that made stupidly pixellated recordings even on best settings
[12:57] <nicon_> music stops, and music in utube don't work
[12:57] <nicon_> zipper: banshee?
[12:57] <zipper> nicon_, ah nevermind, sorry. Thought it was your response to webcam capture
[12:57] <nicon_> Yes it is on linux
[12:57] <Tm_T> zipper: usable? for me it was, but I really didn't use it for need, just tested it
[12:57] <nicon_> zipper: lol q;
[12:57] <nicon_> kk
[12:57] <winbond> is it true that next alpha of gutsy will have kde4 ???
[12:58] <Tm_T> winbond: already have, but not as default
[12:58] <zipper> Tm_T, well, with 2fps the footage would be annoying to watch... or so i would imagine
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> this alpha has it.... its just not installed by default
[12:58] <vzduch> and won't be default for a while
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> I'm testing it right now..... I can concur with that
[12:58] <winbond> Tm_T: awesome, i tried to get it working using the instructions on kubuntu site but it didnt work
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> winbond: haven't tried it in gutsy yet... I have it working in fiesty though
[12:59] <theverant> hey anyone have issue with Compiz Fusion where resizing windows too large results in a window filled with black?  Buttons are still pressable, and sizing smaller fixes the issue.
[12:59] <spyden> hi guys
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> KDE4 looks like it has TONS of potential though.
[01:00] <spyden> how use fonts vga in xchat for ubuntu?
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> theverant: you have an nvidia chip?
[01:00] <Ralesk> winbond: I just recently reinstalled kde4 with a simple apt-get and it worked on my default user without any issues
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> Ralesk: is this gutsy?
[01:00] <theverant> nosrednaekim: yupp
[01:00] <Ralesk> aye
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> theverant: you are running out of video ram. I think there was a fix for that... google it.
[01:01] <winbond> Ralesk: i nstalled it with apt-get too but it whenever it tries to boot it kicks me back out to the login screen
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> its called the black window bug
[01:01] <theverant> huh... weird.
[01:01] <theverant> I'll look it up, thanks
[01:01] <Ralesk> winbond: oh, I never kdmised it, just started the applications manually from shell
[01:01] <sjdurfey> im looking to utilize my Gateway Tablet PC in linux and i was looking to find some software and drivers to get it up and running, can anyone help?
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> winbond: I have it woking from kdm.... did you follow the directions on the website for beta1?
[01:02] <Ralesk> Anyone any idea about my flash playing issue? :/  I really don't want to have a firefox loaded just for this (memory hog, have to log in to sites with it too, etc)
[01:02] <winbond> nosrednaekim: yeah , thats what i used, from the kubuntu website
[01:03] <pagan0ne> ok, ive tried the trouble shooting guide, the sound card is reconized, and drivers running, but no sound still, i think i may have botched sompthing in alsa-mixer or kmix....
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> winbond: are you sure you didn't follow one of the alpha's instuctions?
[01:04] <winbond> nosrednaekim:im not sure, but i think it was beta instructions
[01:05] <winbond> nosrednaekim: the ones which has a typo , three /four
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> winbond: because thereis one line in beta1 whihc is slightly different.
[01:06] <Ralesk> pagan0ne: tried `lsof /dev/snd/*`?
[01:07] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: i get 4 lines of text, what am i looking for there?
[01:07] <winbond> nosrednaekim: yeah i used beta http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[01:07] <Lopin8012> Can anyone help me find a copy of uspaspi.sys?
[01:07] <Ralesk> alternatively: `fuser -v /dev/snd/*` -- you're looking for processes that are using the sound card :)
[01:07] <Ralesk> good for checking if there's something stuck
[01:07] <Ralesk> helped me a couple times
[01:08] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: so i should kill any PID on the sound card? or what?
[01:09] <Ralesk> what are sitting there?  artsd and kmix?
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> winbond: ok, try using it in a xephyr session.
[01:09] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: yep thats it arts 3x with the same PID and kmix 1x
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> like it says on there
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> to make sure its not a KDE4 problem.
[01:10] <Ralesk> that's what I hage too, so that should be right actually
[01:11] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: im pretty sure it sending output to the wrong output...
[01:11] <winbond> nosrednaekim: i cant do anything in xephyr session , its just a blank screen with a mouse icon
[01:11] <Ralesk> tried playing things with aplay?
[01:11] <nicon-> Can I talk to smb to please for help? (@query)
[01:12] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: aplay -l completes ok, but no sound...
[01:13] <Ralesk> doesn't make a sound to me either like that :)  but I take you did try to play a file too -- specifying a device too?
[01:14] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: i tried to play a mp3 (have the driver installed), how do i specify a device?
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> winbond: run this command "xephyr :2 & export DISPLAY=:2; startkde" after running those export lines  in the same konsole that you are running the xephyr line from
[01:15] <Ralesk> -D, but dunno the details
[01:16] <Ralesk> aplay -L (capital L) gives you a list of names for the devices... this can be used with -D to select the device to use
[01:17] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne: Choosing the default sound card: sudo asoundconf list, then :sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[01:19] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: that lets me pick the card, how do i specify what output on that card? ie: fiber optic, coax, or standard 1/8"?
[01:19] <Ralesk> I think that's what the subdevices are for perhaps?
[01:20] <Ralesk> I never had to mess with non-3.5mm jack stuff, thank goodness
[01:20] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne: what type of output are you using ?
[01:20] <pagan0ne> Ralesk: yes, but how do i know which its trying to use?
[01:21] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: im trying to play off a normal 3.5mm Jack, i think its sending to a different output though
[01:21] <Ralesk> I don't know.
[01:21] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne: choose the output in kmix/switches
[01:22] <winbond> nosrednaekim: im getting all kinds of errors
[01:22] <Ralesk> asoundconf appears to be particularly unverbose
[01:22] <BluesKaj> yeah, it is Ralesk
[01:23] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: just about everythings selected, but unless i kill arts, i cant get kmix to keep ANY changes to "Multi Track Internal Clock"...
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> winbond: but does KDE pop up?
[01:23] <winbond> nosrednaekim: it sais bash: xephyr: command not found but then continues to execute kde
[01:23] <tank> I have a folder full of files that I want to move from /wordpress to the root dirtory, /home/htdocs/wordpress how would I go about that?
[01:23] <tank> from a shell account...
[01:23] <BluesKaj> also pagan0ne , be sure to unmute the inputs in 'alsamixer' , which you type in the terminal
[01:24] <sjdurfey> im trying to utilize my Gateway Tablet PC in linux, im following the how-to on wiki.ubuntu.com, and it wants me to edit this file /dev/ttyS0, but its telling me i dont have permission to, even when im logged in as root
[01:25] <BluesKaj> as well , you have to make sure to choose ALSA in system settings/sound system/hardware/select the audio device
[01:27] <erov> sjdurfey: i hardly think it's telling you to "edit" a device
[01:27] <BluesKaj> it would be nice if kubuntu could get the sound setup more unified in the future , it's actually quite confusing :(
[01:27] <erov> you may want to re-read or have someone who can comprehend it take a look
[01:27] <winbond> nosrednaekim: ok , got it to execute , but it quit
[01:27] <sjdurfey> sorry, it wants me to edit this file: /etc/setserial.conf but that file doesnt exist, even after installing the setserial package via APT
[01:27] <winbond> nosrednaekim: its capital X in xephyr
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> winbond: ah!
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[01:28] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: well, i have alsa selected, however im still not having alot of luck
[01:28] <erov> hmm
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> winbond: so what did it say when it quit?
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> I have to go.... be back later
[01:29] <BluesKaj> ok, pagan0nedid you type "alsamixer" in the konsole
[01:29] <tommymann> does anyone know the dapper firefox 2 repository
[01:29] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: yes, and made sure all was unmuted
[01:30] <winbond> nosrednaekim: lots of stuff, cant connect to xserver, unable to open display ":2",kpersonalizer not found!,ould not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, Extended Input Devices not yet supported
[01:31] <tommymann> michael
[01:31] <BluesKaj> cool, pagan0ne , we should be getting close
[01:31] <michaelc> hey tommy
[01:31] <tommymann> hey michael
[01:33] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: i hope, this all stemed from me attempting to adjust the "Multi Track Internal Clock" because sound was distortedly slow, i selected too high a option, and then every time i tried to change it back it would revert back to the bad option.... no sound since then
[01:34] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne: open kmix/switches/highlight IEC958 input and mix input , click on settings, apply and ok
[01:35] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: i see IEC958 Output.... no input...
[01:36] <BluesKaj> sorry pagan0ne, output
[01:36] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: and under "settings" there is no "Apply"
[01:36] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne: configure kmix
[01:36] <BluesKaj> then apply
[01:37] <djdarkman> hy, what should I do when some systray icons freeze?
[01:37] <Pazy> Has anyone here tried Dual Booting XP on 2 HDD's with XP on second? XP has crashed 3 times today and the last time it crashed was 2 weeks ago. Wondering if thats the reason.
[01:38] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: done, still no sound...
[01:38] <djdarkman> Pazy: XP crashes because it`s windows....
[01:38] <BluesKaj> pagan0ne:  where is this Multi Track Internal Clock ? ...never encountered it anywhere
[01:39] <pagan0ne> KMix > Switches > bottom box on the right side... drop down menu
[01:39] <Pazy> No it crashes everynow and then. Last time was 2 weeks ago. now that ive got it dual booting its crashed with same error 3 times in as many hours
[01:39] <djdarkman> do you have some new USB tool?
[01:39] <Pazy> huh?
[01:40] <level1__> Hi, should multi core processors (smp) run at full speed on a stock kubuntu feisty install, or do I have to install something like an smp kernel?
[01:40] <Biovore> they should.. smp is on default kernel..
[01:40] <djdarkman> level1__: I think you need smp programs....
[01:40] <level1__> djdarkman: what do you mean?
[01:40] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: sorry lag...
[01:41] <level1__> djdarkman: you mean the kernel supports it but its wasted with single threaded programs, right?
[01:41] <djdarkman> level1__: in other words you need programs that are written to use smp`s feature
[01:41] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne:  channel mode ? ...don't have it there
[01:41] <Pazy> Anyone know what this means: ERROR: GLXINFO not found. Please check your X11 and/or MESA/OpenGL setup.
[01:42] <djdarkman> level1__: I personally don`t think that the kernel can make use of smp if no program requests it
[01:42] <djdarkman> level1__: it`s something like 64 bit....
[01:43] <level1__> djdarkman: I only know a little about OS design, but it seems to me, that if I have two programs, say, the kernel will try to put one on each chip, so they can share the cpu's power more effectively
[01:43] <level1__> isn't that the point?
[01:43] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne:  in kmix output , make sure master, pcm and the IEC958 playback ctrls are at about 70% ..no more or you'll get distortion
[01:44] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: http://www.euclideanspace.com/tech/pc/shuttle/software/suse101/hardware/index.htm
[01:44] <Pagan0ne> theres a pic of kmix there,all 3 controls are at 60
[01:45] <djdarkman> maybe, don`t know much about smp, just know it theoreticly, but it`s point is to do two things at once, dunno how the kernel makes use of that feature, you can try a benchmark on an default kernel and on a kernel wich does not support smp
[01:45] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne: not running the same soundcard , obviously :)
[01:46] <BluesKaj> <--- AT I- ITX card
[01:46] <allanc> I am going to install edgy, would it be easier if I installl ubuntu first for easier codec installation?
[01:47] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: is it normal for the mute button beside the volume slider to have a red x through it?
[01:47] <BluesKaj> err ATI - IXP
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> allanc: thts what I do
[01:47] <level1__> djdarkman: well, I think the issue is that a good cpu is powerful enough to do the vast majority of things like web browsing already.  SMP just doubles that, but since most people do high intensity stuff, like encoding video, only on occassion, they rarely have more than one running at once.  The effect is, that for this applications, you are still only running at the speed of one cpu, so its not really faster
[01:47] <BluesKaj> mute button?
[01:48] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: sorry, in kaffine player
[01:48] <level1__> djdarkman: but-- you can keep using your computer at full speed while doing that high intesity stuff
[01:48] <allanc> okay nosrednaekim.i'll  just install ubuntu (gnome) first
[01:48] <Pazy> So can anyone understand this:
[01:48] <Pazy> unction: not found
[01:48] <Pazy> ERROR: GLXINFO not found. Please check your X11 and/or MESA/OpenGL setup.
[01:48] <level1__> djdarkman: thats why quad core is so useless, you'd have to be doing 3 things and normal browsing just to appreaciate it
[01:49] <BluesKaj> no Pagan0ne , I don't think so ...try amarok instaed of kaffeine for audio , it's much better
[01:49] <djdarkman> level1__: it`s faster but not X times faster if you have X CPU`s you see, all of them need to access your memory, but maybe that won`t be an issue in the near future, but when doing CPU intense tasks like encoding, you can see difference as you said
[01:50] <winbond> Tm_T: so is kd4 planned to be a default in the final gutsy?
[01:50] <allanc> is it faster to download kubuntu from the official site via torrent or as an iso?
[01:50] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: better yes, simpler no...  dads compute
[01:50] <Tm_T> winbond: no it's not
[01:50] <Tm_T> winbond: won't be default for a year
[01:50] <level1__> djdarkman: good point, the memory is the real bottle neck
[01:50] <Tm_T> winbond: KDE4 isn't ready before Gutsy anyway
[01:50] <winbond> Tm_T: ok , ty, but at least its already being implemented
[01:51] <BluesKaj> ahh, ok Pagan0ne, does dad use kubuntu or are you dual booting ?
[01:51] <Pagan0ne> he uses Kubuntu, i him locked into a normal user account
[01:51] <BluesKaj> right
[01:51] <Pagan0ne> but he wouldnt understand
[01:52] <Pagan0ne> amarok yet
[01:54] <BluesKaj> actually Pagan0ne , I'm a grandfather ...I'm sure he'd understand the complexities if you explained them,,but it isn't that bad unles yer into playlisys and stuff.. i just use it as my default player but i store the music in a desktop folder , like an old windows guy would :)
[01:54] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: NOOOOOOO
[01:54] <BluesKaj> hehe
[01:55] <Tm_T> that's just ugly
[01:55] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: well at this point its for naught if i cant get the sound working
[01:55] <BluesKaj> ..just mention that werd and reaction swift
[01:56] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne , make sure the playback source is pcm in kmix
[01:57] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: it is
[01:57] <allanc> can I upgrade to kde 3.5.7 and amarok 1.4.6 in edgy or those repos are only for feisty?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> darn fancy scmancy sound cards
[01:58] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: its a onboard soundcard
[01:59] <BluesKaj> is there an X thru the speaker icon in the panel
[01:59] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: no
[01:59] <BluesKaj> good
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> allanc: fiesty only
[02:00] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: think  restarting the sound server would help
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> allanc: fiesty is better...
[02:02] <BluesKaj> ok , one more thing. "alsamixer" in the terminal, IEC958 slider ctrl , set it to 70% or so
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> Trying to get digital audio output to work, Pagan0ne?
[02:02] <Pagan0ne> Dragnslcr: no, just 3.5mm audio!
[02:03] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[02:03] <allanc> There are some things I can't do in feisty.. there is a known bug that synce-kde does not work in feisty.. i hve been working on it for months and nothing workd
[02:03] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne:  and use the escape key to leave the terminal , that assures  saving the sttings
[02:03] <Dragnslcr> I had digital output working for a while, then it suddenly stopped working last week
[02:03] <Dragnslcr> No idea if it's Kubuntu or if the outputs on my motherboard fried. The motherboard is only a few months old
[02:04] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: in alsamixer it says ICE957 Output, and ICE957 Playback, the playback, i can adjust, the output is unmuted, but i cant raise the level...
[02:04] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: use the up arrow key
[02:04] <BluesKaj> oops Pagan0ne
[02:04] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[02:05] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: tried that. i can adjust anything but that, which doesnt show a volume level, or any bars...
[02:05] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: kdesu kate /.asoundrc, paste this in :pcm.!default spdif
[02:06] <BluesKaj> Pagan0ne:  it's be titled "IEC958 P"
[02:06] <BluesKaj> it'll be
[02:06] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: thatone ican adjust
[02:06] <BluesKaj> good
[02:07] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I don't have a .asoundrc file anywhere
[02:07] <Pagan0ne> BluesKaj: i have another one called ICE957 that i can mute/unmute, but no volume adjustment
[02:08] <BluesKaj> you will if you type in the Run Command, Dragnslcr :)
[02:08] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- you mean the asoundconf program?
[02:08] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- having a .asoundrc file in / strikes me as odd
[02:08] <Pagan0ne> well ill be back later... food... crabs...
[02:08] <BluesKaj> it's quite common Dragnslcr
[02:09] <Dragnslcr> Really? I don't usually see anything put files in the root of the system
[02:09] <BluesKaj> basically it's just a little helper file , i guess
[02:10] <Tm_T> IIRC that should be in ~/
[02:10] <Lichte> what package do I need to install to get the documentation for Quanta ??
[02:10] <|_ocke> is it normal for kubuntu to give you gui on terminal 9 (ctrl alt f9) and not give you a login on 1-8?
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> Tm_T- yeah, that's what I was thinking. Looks like asoundconf uses ~/.asoundrc
[02:11] <Jmanfoo> Anyone here use a dual-head setup?
[02:11] <NickPresta> hey guys
[02:11] <Lichte> yo NickPresta
[02:11] <Jmanfoo> dual-monitor i mean
[02:11] <|_ocke> c+a+f1 says "Starting Up....." and nothign else
[02:12] <BluesKaj> i found in an alsa tutorial http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)
[02:12] <|_ocke> c+a+f2-8 just are blank, no login or anything
[02:12] <|_ocke> i've never seen that before
[02:12] <Biovore> press enter on it..
[02:12] <Biovore> or is that when the kernel is starting..
[02:12] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- the weird thing is that it was working fine one night, and then stopped the next night. I don't remember changing any settings or anything
[02:13] <BluesKaj> updates Dragnslcr ..updates , it happens all the time
[02:14] <|_ocke> Biovore, no, its right now
[02:14] <|_ocke> i need to install new nvidia drivers
[02:14] <|_ocke> so i need cli
[02:14] <BluesKaj> I'm constantly resetting alsa , even tho exit the proper way
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I thought of that, but I don't remember any sound system updates last week.
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> Maybe I should try booting from a Live CD and see if it works
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: did you check out the tutorial on SPDIF OUTPUT?
[02:16] <Theory> f
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- the Gentoo one? Yeah, I looked through it
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: I have the digital coax out feeding the HT receiver in the tv room ..the pc cdplayer sounds better than the old one
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I've already checked alsamixer, and the PCM output isn't muted
[02:17] <BluesKaj> old sony cp95, 1989 vintage :)
[02:17] <mzanfardino> just reinstalled kubuntu feisty and noticed my ctrl-shift-right and ctrl-shift-left do not function as expected (that is, highlighting all test from the cursor to the end of the word in either direction).  Is there a setting I need to adjust to make this work properly?
[02:18] <|_ocke> Biovore, pressing enter does nothing
[02:18] <Lichte> what package do I need to install to get the documentation for Quanta ??
[02:18] <Biovore> ok, I guess the kernel is hulting
[02:18] <|_ocke> its like im in single user mode or something
[02:19] <|_ocke> but in GUI
[02:19] <|_ocke> Biovore, it seems to be running normally
[02:19] <|_ocke> other than that
[02:19] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: make sure that the pcm input is set to analog in kmix , beleive it or not :)
[02:19] <|_ocke> ive never had any linux nogive me login prompts ont ttyS0-6
[02:20] <|_ocke> and this one worked fine before, i JUST upgraded to 7.04 from 6.10
[02:21] <droach> any php-cli coders in here
[02:21] <|_ocke> and my opengl stopped working right
[02:21] <|_ocke> well, it worked in supertuxkart, but not in gridwars 2, and direct rendering was disabled
[02:22] <|_ocke> i had acceleration though
[02:22] <|_ocke> so i used envy to install new nvidia drivers, and it screwed it up bad
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- where's the PCM input setting?
[02:22] <el_isma> !firestarter
[02:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:23] <|_ocke> so i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and made it 'nv' and it works now
[02:23] <|_ocke> but no acceleration
[02:24] <Lichte> !quanta
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quanta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <Lichte> !webdev
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <droach> you said x server crashes when you change the driver to "nvidia"
[02:25] <|_ocke> so i downloaded the latest nvidia drivers and i want to install em but i cant get to CLI without x running
[02:25] <|_ocke> droach, yeah it will sit there locked tryign to start up forever
[02:25] <|_ocke> i have to hard poweroff
[02:26] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: in kmix/switches/IEC958 Playback Source
[02:26] <droach> |_ocke did you post your xorg.conf in the pastebin already
[02:27] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- says PCM
[02:27] <|_ocke> droach, no but i know exactly how to get the video working if i can get CLI mode running without x running
[02:28] <|_ocke> im tryin to figure out why ctrl-alt-F1-F8 dont give me a login prompt and c-a-F9 is the gui instead of the normal F8
[02:28] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: dropdown should have the analog option
[02:29] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- PCM and ADC1-3. If I select one of the ADC options, it just stays as PCM
[02:29] <BluesKaj> bummer
[02:29] <droach> i dont know why control-alt-F1 isnt working, thats weired
[02:29] <Dragnslcr> Like I said, it just suddenly stopped working. It was bizarre
[02:30] <Dragnslcr> I tried the speakers on my DVD player and they worked fine, so it has to be my PC
[02:30] <evri2> guys should i use nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new for my geforce 7200 go card?
[02:30] <evri2> my ide is -new
[02:30] <evri2> idea*
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> glx-new
[02:31] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: what soundcard?
[02:31] <CppIsWeird> how do i change the port of vnc?
[02:31] <erichj> vnc://address:port
[02:32] <CppIsWeird> server
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- it's an onboard nVidia chipset. The board is an Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe
[02:32] <erichj> oh
[02:32] <CppIsWeird> i dont see anything in the vnc.conf or any vnc config files in my home
[02:32] <droach> |_ocke, so what exactly do you need to do that requires you not be in X
[02:33] <|_ocke> droach, i need to install the latest NVIDIA drivers
[02:33] <droach> |_ocke, you should be able to do that in X and then just restart the X server when you are done
[02:34] <droach> using the "nv" driver
[02:36] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: do nvidia soundcards use the AC97 driver ?
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- think so
[02:37] <droach> nvidia sound cards?
[02:37] <Ralesk> droach: nForce and such
[02:37] <BluesKaj> did you update kde lately
[02:37] <Dragnslcr> Running 3.5.7
[02:37] <|_ocke> droach, when i run 'sudo sh NVIDIA-whatever.sh' it starts and then says it detects im running an x server and i have to shut it down
[02:37] <Ralesk> nForce2 does use the normal ac97, that's all I know (that's what I have)
[02:37] <allanc> is there no means of upgrading to kde 3.5.7 and amarok 1.4.6 on Edgy?
[02:37] <droach> you cant use the driver in the repo
[02:37] <droach> ?
[02:38] <droach> if you use that you wont have to shut down x
[02:39] <|_ocke> droach, im not using a repo driver
[02:39] <|_ocke> i downloaded the file from nvidia.com
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr: after updating to kde 357 , i had to reset all my sound settings and the xorg file as well
[02:39] <droach> but is there a reason for not using a repo driver
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- there shouldn't be anything in xorg.conf for sound, should there?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> nope, don't think so
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> I dunno what sound settings I could be missing
[02:41] <BluesKaj> kde updates affects alot of libs guess
[02:41] <BluesKaj> weird
[02:42] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: did you need an asoundrc for digital output prior to updating?
[02:42] <crimsun> depending on the updates applied, it may be a stale statefile.
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- nope, it worked perfectly fine up until late last week
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> I think I had updated to 3.5.7 before then, too
[02:43] <ccc> hi. i noticed the "icon launch effect" introduced in feisty is also the default using only kde-core (and not kubuntu-desktop). are the kde-core packages patched or where is that feature hidden?
[02:43] <Dragnslcr> I don't remember doing anything to change any sound settings. Don't remember any sound package updates either
[02:44] <[L] > algum de vcs sabe como colocar internet no kubuntu?
[02:44] <Tm_T> !br
[02:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:44] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: ok, do the following in a Konsole:  kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/seq* /dev/snd/*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|awk '/^snd/ {print $1}'/)&&sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state&&sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[02:44] <BluesKaj> yeah , sound on kubuntu is extrememly frustrating due to the scattered dependent programs ...they don't seem to be linked at first , but thay certainly are and one lil wrong setting and arrrrrghh!
[02:45] <xu> ;
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> awk: /^snd/ {print $1}/
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> awk:                   ^ unexpected newline or end of string
[02:45] <crimsun> err, sorry, remove the trailing '/'
[02:46] <crimsun> $(lsmod|awk '/^snd/ {print $1}')
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> So just take out the / before the closing parenthesis?
[02:46] <crimsun> yes
[02:47] <droach> |_ocke i dont know what to tell you, ctrl-alt-F1 should kill X, or you can try booting in recovery mode i dont know if that will work though...but oh well im going to a kernel channel bye all
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec]  pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec] 
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[02:47] <crimsun> hmm, you must have a really new nforce board
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> Fairly new, yeah
[02:47] <crimsun> HDA instead of AC'97-based, that is
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[02:48] <crimsun> anyhow, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/seq*
[02:48] <Dragnslcr> Nothing
[02:48] <crimsun> pwd
[02:48] <Dragnslcr> I'm in ~
[02:48] <crimsun> (make sure you're not in /proc/asound)
[02:48] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, forgive my laziness, but could you explain your problem again?
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> NickPresta- digital output on my onboard sound suddenly stopped working late last week
[02:49] <BluesKaj> NickPresta: he has no audio
[02:49] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: ok, let's just look at the mixer settings.
[02:49] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: pastebin your `amixer -c0`
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Headphone jacks work fine though
[02:49] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, BluesKaj okay. I, too, am using HDA on an nforce board so if I can be of any assistance (to compare settings and such), don't hesitate to ask.
[02:50] <crimsun> NickPresta: really depends on the codec used
[02:50] <Lichte> what package do I need to install to get the documentation for Quanta ??
[02:50] <BluesKaj> good NickPresta , cuz that's foreign territory to me :)
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32983/
[02:51] <BluesKaj> <---- ATI - IXP
[02:51] <NickPresta> Lichte, try http://knightlust.blogspot.com/2007/06/quanta-documentation.html.
[02:52] <Lichte> thank you NickPresta
[02:52] <erichj> man upgrading to the KDE 4 is a nightmare
[02:52] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: is it all audio or just digital audio?
[02:52] <Dragnslcr> NickPresta- are your coaxial and/or optical outputs working
[02:53] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, everything is working fine, as far as I know
[02:53] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- my headphones work fine. Don't have any 3.5 mm audio cables to test the analog connection to my speakers
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> erichj: they are supposed to be coexistant
[02:54] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, you might consider plugging in your speaks (depending on which speakers you have) into your rear headphone jack
[02:54] <erichj> nosrednaekim: yeah....which is why i decided to try it. but there are like 8 broken packages
[02:54] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: then the culprit is likely your 'IEC958 Playback Source' setting.
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- in KMix?
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> erichj: KDE3 packages?
[02:54] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: or via aumix/alsamixer/etc.
[02:54] <erichj> nosrednaekim: no, KDE 4 packages
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- it's set to PCM
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> KDE4 packages are being broken? by what?
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- pretty sure that's what it has been all along
[02:55] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: experiment
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> crimsun- if I try to select ADC1 (or 2 or 3), it just stays as PCM
[02:55] <BluesKaj> i think the Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback Source ADC1,2,3 are analog to digital converter inputs, which are the preferable settings for his spdif output
[02:56] <BluesKaj> theres' gotta be a way to make that ADC setting stick
[02:56] <NickPresta> Dragnslcr, in KMix, my Master Channel is set to PCM. I remember that I didn't setup analog output so I only have HDA available to me
[02:57] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: sudo mv /etc/udev/rules.d/85-alsa.rules ~
[02:57] <crimsun> Dragnslcr: then reboot, and see if it's indeed the stale /var/lib/alsa/asound.state screwing up things
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> NickPresta- same here, I believe
[02:57] <crimsun> I need to run; the coffee shop is closing
[02:58] <NickPresta> crimsun, heh. Godspeed.
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> I don't have any files in /var/lib/alsa/
[03:04] <allanc> if I install KDE 4 beta, is there a chance for me to return to kde 3.5.7?
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> allanc: yes
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> allanc: did you already install fiesty?
[03:04] <allanc> I am using feisty now
[03:04] <Aranel> Can someone give me "Need For Speed : Underground 2" installer ? Please, I can't install it :(
[03:05] <allanc> how do I return to kde 3.5.7 after installing kde 4 beta? is that a risky action?
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> allanc: no, its selected from a drop down menu within kdm
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> its not risky or anything.
[03:07] <allanc> oooh.. so the kde4 wont even touch my kde 3?
[03:08] <intelikey> what module does this need ?    description: Ethernet controller product: ET32P2   ?
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> allanc: thats the idea
[03:10] <allanc> okay thanks.. you're the man
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> allanc: and thats good too because KDE4 is rather unstable
[03:10] <intelikey> nobody  ?
[03:10] <allanc> do I really have to install xserver-xephyr?
[03:12] <evandro> como eu instalo realmedia ou seus codecs???
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> Okay, so I'm running off the 7.04 DVD, and I still have no digital audio. I'm thinking it's a hardware issue
[03:15] <allanc> I'm so excited. have anyone here tried kde4 beta yet?
[03:16] <Tm_T> not me, I have been more pre-alpha tester
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> allanc: I have.
[03:16] <andy__> can anyone help me get my mp3 player to work on my kubuntu box?
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> allanc: no, you don't need xephyr, thats only if you don't want to run it full-session
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> andy__: what is your mp3 player?
[03:16] <andy__> iaudio
[03:17] <andy__> color sound
[03:17] <Ralesk> I thought those mounted just like removable usb memory sticks
[03:17] <andy__> I plug it into the usb port, and nothing happens
[03:17] <Ralesk> hmm
[03:17] <allanc> can you tell me what exactly a "full-session" is?
[03:18] <Tempusflow> part
[03:18] <Tm_T> allanc: to have whole KDE4, not only apps from it
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> allanc: a full session is like what you are doing now. And xephyr session is a little window within your current session that houses KDE4
[03:18] <andy__> other usb devices work fine
[03:19] <allanc> oohh.. so if I am not on a full session, that means that I only have kde 4 apps running on a kde 3 environment?
[03:19] <Tm_T> allanc: more like so
[03:20] <Tm_T> but that's bit tricky ;)
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> thats not hard, you just have to do the export lines right?
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> I love dolphin...
[03:20] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: well, actually I use totally different user even
[03:21] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: ssh -X <3
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> ah... that makes things a whole lot easier!
[03:21] <Tm_T> yup
[03:21] <Tm_T> I compile KDE4 for my own
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> I did notice that KDE4 as faster than KDE3...
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> *was
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> *is
[03:22] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: should be
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> Ugh, I'm starting to think it's a problem with my motherboard
[03:23] <m477> hello all i have trouble with amarok when i try open MP3 file then it stop working
[03:23] <allanc> I am going to try kde 4 hoping that I can sync my pocket pc with its kontact... I hope this works now
[03:23] <Tm_T> allanc: nope
[03:23] <allanc> m477, do you have mp3 codecs installed?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> m477: install "libxine-extracodecs"
[03:23] <allanc> Tm_T, it wont??? how come?
[03:23] <m477> allanc: no it is clean system
[03:23] <Tm_T> allanc: that side isn't just Kontact, the base below is what needs to have support for that pocketpc
[03:24] <christina_> Is there a way to import OneNote into BasKet?
[03:24] <Tm_T> allanc: and, that's not something that comes with KDE4 itself, it's more universal issue
[03:24] <m477> allanc: amarok show me link do instal but at the same time it stop running
[03:24] <Tm_T> allanc: I show you something...
[03:24] <andy__> I can't figure out why my mp3 player isn't recognized when i plug it in
[03:24] <allanc> okay.. enlighten me
[03:25] <andy__> any advice
[03:25] <Tm_T> allanc: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/syncflow.png
[03:25] <allanc> andy__, do other usb device work on your computer?
[03:25] <andy__> yes
[03:25] <Tm_T> allanc: my current UGLY way to deal it, should find a way to make iPaq handle ical or similar ...
[03:26] <andy__> I have been searching the forums and found nothing helpful
[03:26] <m477> allanc: so what i have to go ? ^^ to download this mp3 codecs ?
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> m477: run this command "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[03:27] <allanc> Tm_T, does that mean that I should find a way to sync my pocket pc with google calendar?
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> andy__: this may be stupid... but did you try it in more than one USB port?
[03:27] <andy__>  all of them
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> hmm.. ok
[03:27] <allanc> here's the thing, I can sync my pocket pc with evolution and I can use evolution's calendar resource on kontact.. but when i edit the calendar resource using kontact, errors come out
[03:27] <christina_> !register
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[03:28] <m477> nosrednaekim: it coundnt find that
[03:28] <allanc> andy__, what mp3 player is that?
[03:28] <_L> !br
[03:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:28] <andy__> it works on my laptop running zandros but not on my kubuntu box
[03:28] <andy__> iaudio color sound
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> m477: is this dapper, fiesty, or edgy?
[03:29] <allanc> you mean, no usb device come out on the desktop?
[03:29] <andy__> correct
[03:29] <andy__> it does not recharge either
[03:30] <m477> nosrednaekim: sorry but what do you mean?
[03:30] <allanc> it does not recharge? that does not seem to be a software issue
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> m477: what version of kubuntu is it?
[03:30] <m477> nosrednaekim: i dont know about what are you asking me
[03:30] <m477> nosrednaekim: ahh 7.04
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> andy__: are your USB ports USB1.1?
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> m477: fiesty :) ok.
[03:31] <andy__> 2
[03:31] <allanc> is there a way for me to have evolution and kontact synced all the time?
[03:31] <christina_> Is there a way to import OneNote into BasKet?
[03:32] <m477> nosrednaekim: so what i should do now ?
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> m477: run "sudo apt-get update"
[03:32] <andy__> all my other usb devices (phone, camera etc) work fine
[03:32] <christina_> intelikey: Is there a way to import OneNote into BasKet?
[03:33] <m477> nos k
[03:33] <m477> nosrednaekim: k
[03:33] <allanc> christina_, I don't think so
[03:33] <christina_> allanc: Not possible?
[03:33] <m477> nosrednaekim: i supoust it will take a moment
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... depending on your speed it can take a couple minutes
[03:33] <allanc> christina_, most likely..onenote is an MS app and it wont support basket
[03:33] <intelikey> christina_ i have no idea.
[03:34] <intelikey> never used either of them
[03:34] <allanc> try googling more christina_. that's what I'm doing now for you.. I'll tell you if I find a solution
[03:34] <christina_> m$ word opens in OO.o, I just throught maybe there was something that can open OneNote
[03:34] <mecannotread> guys how can i tune or optimize my kubuntu
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> mecannotread: to make it faster?
[03:34] <m477> nosrednaekim: speed of what ? :>
[03:34] <christina_> allanc: I've had no luck with this. Google.com/linux didn't have much of anything
[03:35] <mecannotread>  nosrednaekim yes
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> m477: of internet.
[03:35] <m477> nosrednaekim: ok done
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> mecannotread: hmm.... not really.
[03:35] <allanc> yep, christina, but word documents have pretty much the same formats.. basket on the other hand, has its own standard
[03:35] <mecannotread> not internet but optimizing kubuntu itself
[03:35] <christina_> OIC
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> m477: try running that previous command again.... you can get to it by pressing the up arrow a couple times until you see it.
[03:36] <allanc> I really love to help you christina_ because I am a OneNot e and Basket junkie, but I'm afraid that you have to copy-paste all your notes
[03:36] <adenicio> i got probs with feisty it look like it not saving my configuration good.n when i enter some option it say could not find process unable to create io-slave:read-only file system
[03:36] <adenicio> help me pease
[03:36] <christina_> :(
[03:36] <christina_> Thank you much allanc
[03:36] <adenicio> even kopete gone crazy
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: did you do anything lately?
[03:37] <intelikey> more even
[03:37] <dmuser> Hey everyone
[03:37] <m477> nosrednaekim:  you mean "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" y ?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> m477: thats the one
[03:37] <m477> nosrednaekim: thx gr8 now works
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> m477: what you had to do was get the packages lists so that it could tell where to DL it from.
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: like edit any configuration files?
[03:40] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: well i tink when the pc went crazy is when i try to stop linux for asking me for the password.someone give me a hint to make it stop but it didnt,and i download samba the same night then the other i restarted the pc it went crazy acking me to run fsck then control-d
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> probably a bad fstab.
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> or bad disc
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> I'll be right back...
[03:41] <wolferine> trying to vnc into my box, and I just get a blank desktop, i think i am running the server incorrectly
[03:41] <wolferine> what can I do to troubleshoot via ssh?
[03:42] <andy__> I am pretty sure the problem is software since other devices work on the same usb port
[03:42] <andy__> and the mp3 player works on zandros
[03:42] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: oh i tink the prob came from when the person told me how to stop linux from asking the password and change my acount from admin to root
[03:43] <m477> kubuntu cant instal package from rpm ?
[03:43] <dmuser> Does anyone here have any way to fix xrandr crashing whenever I enable xinerama?  I fixed the Power Manager crash...but xrandr crashing eludes me.
[03:43] <wolferine> m477, not really
[03:43] <adenicio> !rpm
[03:43] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:44] <m477> k thx
[03:44] <wolferine> m477 what are you looking at installing?
[03:44] <ardchoille> m477: Note the "the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous" bit
[03:44] <andy__> it works in windows just fine
[03:45] <adenicio> i got probs with feisty it look like it not saving my configuration good.n when i enter some option it say could not find process unable to create io-slave:read-only file system
[03:46] <wolferine> andy__, thats really besides the point
[03:46] <adenicio> Configuration file "/home/adenicio/.kde/share/config/keditfiletyperc" not writable.
[03:46] <adenicio> Configuration file "/home/adenicio/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" not writable.
[03:46] <adenicio> Please contact your system administrator
[03:46] <m477> nothing special i just asking
[03:46] <adenicio> this the prob it giving me
[03:46] <adenicio> :(
[03:46] <sammy> if someone, with one panel, wouldn't mind right clicking the panel, add a new panel > panel, then right clicking and configuring the new panel?
[03:46] <andy__> not really
[03:46] <c0mp13371331337> adenicio - Permissions?
[03:46] <ardchoille> m477: Rather than installing from an rpm, you're better off searching the repos or looking for an ubuntu .deb, or compiling. All of these are better than installing an rpm
[03:47] <BluesKaj> trying to split a wav file and I get the error :warning: cannot open 'grand.wav' because it is a directory, not a regular file...it's just a folder ..what gives?
[03:47] <m477> y k
[03:47] <sammy> on the appearance tab of the configure panel window, there should be a drop down list near the top which lets me choose which panel I'm changing the location and size of, but I get no dropdown list.
[03:47] <wolferine> trying to vnc into my box, and I just get a blank desktop, i think i am running the server incorrectly
[03:47] <adenicio> c0mp13371331337: i tink
[03:47] <wolferine> what can I do to troubleshoot via ssh?
[03:47] <adenicio> c0mp13371331337: nothing is saving
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: lets see what your /etc/fstab file looks like
[03:47] <c0mp13371331337> Sammy - Log out, restart X, then log back in.  You'll have a dropdown to edit them individually.
[03:47] <ardchoille> wolferine: Troubleshoot what?
[03:47] <wolferine> ardchoille, why my vnc session is like it is
[03:48] <sammy> c0mp13371331337: outstanding. I wish these chats where logged and indexed and searchable and metafiled.
[03:48] <sammy> *wakes up*
[03:48] <sammy> cheers.
[03:48] <andy__> The mp3 player the cable and the usb port work fine
[03:48] <intelikey> adenicio same thing you can from console   except you just can't switch ttys
[03:48] <andy__> but not on kubuntu
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: BTW, I'm running the KDE4 Konsole from within KDE3, you just have to call the right executable :)
[03:48] <ardchoille> sammy: You can log chats and then use grep
[03:48] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: i cant inter it give me an error:Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: what command did you use?
[03:49] <sammy> ha, is there really a freenode server in ballard?
[03:49] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: i'll check if i note it down
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: run "cat /etc/fstab"
[03:50] <wolferine> ardchoille, any ideas?
[03:50] <intelikey> nosrednaekim cat /proc/mounts  maybe even
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> or just run "mount"
[03:51] <intelikey> not accurate if root is ro
[03:51] <sammy> ha, oh. it's my best-buy owned ISP.
[03:51] <m477> how to use file .so ?
[03:51] <hitmanWilly> m477, thats a shared library
[03:52] <intelikey>  /etc/mtab can't be updated if root is ro
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> m477: what are you trying to run?
[03:52] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: u want me to show u my fstab?
[03:52] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: its long
[03:52] <hitmanWilly> m477, you don't really 'use' it, unless you're a programmer
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: pastebin.
[03:52] <m477> i wanna instal flesh
[03:52] <m477> so .xpt?
[03:52] <c0mp13371331337> Is anyone in here a 'staffer'?
[03:53] <adenicio> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[03:53] <adenicio> #
[03:53] <adenicio> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:53] <adenicio> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[03:53] <wolferine> !pastebin | adenicio
[03:53] <ubotu> adenicio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:53] <andy__> back to windows
[03:53] <adenicio> # /dev/hdb1
[03:53] <adenicio> UUID=a6862f53-545b-479d-af15-f20ae1b4f984 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
[03:53] <adenicio> # /dev/hdb5
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[03:53] <adenicio> UUID=a8a08d1e-690e-4638-8ca3-1af8925d1d7b none swap sw 0 0
[03:53] <adenicio> /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[03:53] <adenicio> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[03:53] <adenicio> /dev/hda1 /media/AQUARIUS ntfs uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,users 0 0
[03:53] <adenicio> /dev/sda1 /media/sata vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users 0 0
[03:53] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: wa is pastbin?
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> now you ask...
[03:53] <adenicio> lol
[03:54] <hitmanWilly> m477, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:54] <wolferine> adenicio, dont do that anymore
[03:54] <intelikey> :)
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[03:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:54] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: anyway i allready paste it on top
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: paste it in a pastebin...
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: its easier to read
[03:54] <wolferine> i wouldnt even help him anymore
[03:54] <hitmanWilly> m477, that's the easiest way to get flash up and running
[03:54] <wolferine> for a comment like that
[03:54] <adenicio> wolferine: sorry i didnt know wa was pastbin
[03:54] <m477> thanks
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> m477, let us know if that doesn't work
[03:56] <m477> hitmanWilly: i supoust it doesnt work ;/
[03:56] <hitmanWilly> m477, is it not working for you?
[03:56] <m477> hitmanWilly: i give you more detals i wanna instal Flash player to youtube
[03:56] <BluesKaj> when is a folder considered a directory ?...something isn't making sense here
[03:56] <m477> hitmanWilly: yeap
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> !flash | m477 try this guide:
[03:57] <ubotu> m477 try this guide:: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:57] <c0mp13371331337> BluesKaj: Folders are directories.
[03:57] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: i cant even get to the pastebin it keep givin errors"Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system."
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: they are the samething....
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: "folder" is a silly Windows name for directories
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: you can't open konqueror?
[03:58] <BluesKaj> ok , then how do put a wav file in to a "file " , cuz the split app is looking for a file
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, he can't even write to his home dir from what I can tell
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, either that or kioslave is seriously borked
[03:59] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: yes it open it say:
[03:59] <wolferine> trying to vnc into my box, and I just get a blank desktop, i think i am running the server incorrectly
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> Argh, now my headphones are going nuts
[03:59] <adenicio> An error occurred while loading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/:
[03:59] <adenicio> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system.
[04:00] <BluesKaj> I have a large wav file that I'm using shntool to split into it'sd consituent cuts ,but it's balking at teh directory insteab it wants a "file"
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> maybe he should get into a live CD.
[04:01] <BluesKaj> instead it looks for a  destination file
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, how did you start kde, btw?
[04:01] <m477> hitmanWilly: i think it is a bit too difficult
[04:01] <m477> hitmanWilly: for me
[04:02] <intelikey> would there be a better place for a script that was essential on a server than to call it from  /etc/inittab ?
[04:02] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: btw?i start i normal.everything was working good untill i try to stop feisty from asking me my password
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> m477: nah, its not that hard really. go to the adobe site and download their .deb package. Thats what I did.
[04:03] <allanc> guys, is there a way for me to have evolution's and kontact's PIM data synced/
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, you sadi it asked you to hit ctrl-d earlier, and it wanted you to fsck something?
[04:03] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: wont a cd live restart everything from zero an i have to download everyting back?
[04:03] <m477> hitmanWilly: i just found something
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: no,I'm saying use a liveCD to recover your previous install.
[04:03] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: i did
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> m477, please don't say automatix...
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> AUTOMATIX2!!
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:04] <ardchoille> lol
[04:04] <ardchoille> !automatix
[04:04] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[04:04] <intelikey> !automatix
[04:04] <m477> hitmanWilly: what do you mean ?
[04:05] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: will it fix the errors and not erase every packs i download?
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> nosrednaekim: you can use it to do that, yes
[04:05] <hitmanWilly> m477, steer clear of it...
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: ^^
[04:06] <hitmanWilly> m477, its a script that tries to make it easy to install some stuff, and it breaks things
[04:06] <hitmanWilly> m477, or at least it can
[04:06] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: no chancess i'll see it system back up will save everything i have
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: say again?
[04:07] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: it even killing my window.window wont start unless feisty works
[04:07] <m477> hitmanWilly: i instal flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.1_i386.deb form that page and still "dead"
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: I still don't get what you are saying.
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> m477, are you using firefox or konq?
[04:08] <m477> hitmanWilly: i will try download it form youtube page but there is .rpm YUM .tar.gz
[04:08] <m477> hitmanWilly: konq
[04:09] <m477> i mean abdobe flash palyer site
[04:09] <m477> adobe*
[04:09] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, that app is designed to work with ff, you need to make some config changes to konq for it to work right...hold on a sec
[04:09] <adenicio> feisty is a headact
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> m477: you could just go get firefox...
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> IMO, its easier and better thn konqueror.
[04:10] <hitmanWilly> but then again, not all of us agree on that :)
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> yeah..... but for getting flash working it IS easier
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, open up konq
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> I think everyone should agree on THAT
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:11] <m477> but fire fox to needs flesh
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, that's because it only installs it in .mozilla/plugins
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> so true..
[04:11] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: wa is imo?its not the webbrowser that given me probs it the hold system.everytime i lauch something it keep saying unable to save config ,its read only
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> m477, no, i can help you get konq set up for flash
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> IMO stands for "in my opinion"
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> m477: yeah, just let hitmanWilly help you..... sorry for interfering.
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, don't be sorry, i do it all the time :P
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> m477, anyway, open up konqueror
[04:14] <m477> hitmanWilly: yeap
[04:14] <adenicio> !io-slave
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about io-slave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <m477> hitmanWilly: anyway this flash adobe works only on fire fox etc sure?
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: boot up a liveCD.
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> m477, look in the menu for settings ->> configure konqueror
[04:14] <adenicio> wa is a io-slave?how to creat it?
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: and come back here from within it.
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> m477, no, it works just fine with konq, you just have to enable it
[04:15] <intelikey> i'm out.
[04:15] <adenicio> ok
[04:15] <m477> can you tell me where is cfg konq ?
[04:16] <m477> nvm i have it
[04:16] <m477> go on
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> m477, its on the menu bar, Settings, then COnfigure Konqueror under that menu
[04:16] <m477> now i see ^_^
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, scroll down the left hand pane until you get to Plugins
[04:17] <m477> yeap
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> m477 click on it and lookl at the box on the bottom right
[04:18] <m477> ye i have it
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> m477, it should have a bunch of directory locations in it
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> m477, see if you see anything like $HOME/.mozilla/plugins
[04:18] <m477> there is
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, hit scan for new plugins
[04:19] <m477> i did
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, now scroll the left hand pane up again until you hit java and javascript
[04:20] <m477> i have
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, click on the tab for javascript
[04:20] <m477> y
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> m477, make sure 'enable javascript globally' is checked
[04:21] <m477> yes it is
[04:21] <m477> all the time
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> m477, ok, then hit ok
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> m477, that last part was just verifying something
[04:22] <m477> what ?
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> m477, youtube needs javascript enabled :)
[04:22] <m477> so what now?
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> m477, hit ok and then restart konqueror
[04:23] <Minataku> Heya, hitmanWilly
[04:23] <Minataku> Seen dr_willis around?
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> howdy Minataku
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, no tonight
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> *not
[04:23] <m477> hitmanWilly: ok but i didnt do nothing so i dont think so that will help dont you ?
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> m477: on the contrary... you scanned for the flash plugin..
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> m477, you scanned for new plugins, right? that should have done something for you
[04:24] <m477> hehe works youtube :)
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> m477, told ya :)
[04:24] <m477> thanks
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> np
[04:25] <ardchoille> lol
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> m477: anything else that you want to do ;)
[04:25] <Minataku> Last seen 11hr 38min ago
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, he's avoiding you :P
[04:26] <Minataku> lol
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, he doesn't want to part with his old computers anymore :)
[04:26] <Minataku> X3
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> j/k
[04:37] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: hey i run the live cd then zqtM
[04:37] <intelikey> what's that command to make ssh keys ?
[04:38] <nosrednaekim> something with key-gen
[04:38] <intelikey> yeah something with that in it...
[04:40] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: hello this the person adenicio thqt had probs zith his pc going hay wire u told ;e to run the live cd
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah....
[04:40] <ubuntu__> n...M
[04:41] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: hoz to run the recovery mode
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> I have to go though...
[04:41] <ubuntu__> lol
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> sorry
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> its getting late here on the east coast of the USA.
[04:42] <allanc> how do I set dolphin as me default file manager in fiesty?
[04:43] <intelikey> allanc update-alternatives maybe ?
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, gpg --gen-key btw :)
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> i'm running the KDE4 dophin as my FM :)
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> it works very well
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: he wants a ssh key... not gpg
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm, heh
[04:44] <intelikey> hitmanWilly ssh not gpg
[04:44] <allanc> intelikey, what update-alternatives?
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, sorry, saw generate key and went on autopilot
[04:44] <intelikey> and it's not just how to make one  i think i can handle that   it's how to set it up   i think i need ot copy the key to the remote machine   no?
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: yeah, I think so.
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> to its .ssh I think
[04:45] <allanc> I want folders to be opened with dolphin instead of konqueror
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, not sure, definately not a ssh expert
[04:45] <intelikey> ok i did this  one time.     i'll see if i can back track.....   thanks guys.
[04:46] <intelikey> if not i can always write an "expect" script.
[04:48] <levi_> j
[04:48] <levi_> can any1 help me with my sound not working
[04:48] <barnaby> tried alsa mixer?
[04:48] <level1> !nvidia
[04:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:49] <mecannotread> levi_ check out the mixer mayby something is muted
[04:49] <mecannotread> I had that too.
[04:49] <levi_> its not it says everything is fine but its not
[04:49] <levi_> maybe need to update driver
[04:50] <barnaby> I had no sound on my laptop till i turned it up with the alsa mixer
[04:51] <levi_> ok how would i do that??
[04:51] <barnaby> open a shell and type "alsamixer"
[04:52] <barnaby> tab around for your front speakers are turned up
[04:52] <barnaby> *till*
[04:52] <word> You know...why doesn't pressing the button on the cdrom drive...give you root privledges to open it..
[04:53] <barnaby> depends on who put the last cd in
[04:53] <levi_> ok no dice it was up
[04:53] <word> ...Me?
[04:53] <word> It happens when i boot up with it already in there.
[04:53] <levi_> when i insatlled it said something about it not working thought it would be easy fix
[04:53] <levi_> an older live cd worked just fine...
[04:54] <barnaby> does it work with any other distros?
[04:54] <barnaby> I had sound problems between puppy versions
[04:54] <levi_> yes
[04:55] <barnaby> some would grab the sound card right away, other nothing
[04:55] <barnaby> what are you running now?
[04:55] <barnaby> os-wise
[04:55] <levi_> i dont understand why an older ver. of ubuntu works fine and it is impossible to get the current release to work...
[04:56] <levi_> vista
[04:56] <levi_> ubuntu
[04:56] <barnaby> it may be a driver issue
[04:56] <intelikey> word cause removing media from a mountpoint is able to halt the system,  and that's not generally desirable.
[04:56] <levi_> so is there someway to fix the driver??
[04:56] <barnaby> ubuntu plays way too nice sometimes with proprietary drivers
[04:56] <intelikey> word sudo eject
[04:57] <barnaby> it's an invidia card?
[04:57] <levi_> idk
[04:57] <levi_> i dont think so
[04:57] <barnaby> they may have a linux driver for it...nvidia is usually good that way
[04:58] <barnaby> look at your hardware- it should tell you
[04:58] <levi_> how ???
[04:59] <levi_> im so new and every1 just expect me to be able to do it...
[04:59] <barnaby> sysytem:preferences: hardware information
[04:59] <word> intelikey: yah..but shouldn't physically pressing the button do that anyway? doing the eject command yah sure don't let me...but the button should always do it :-/
[04:59] <barnaby> don't worry, man. I'm a newbie,too.
[04:59] <intelikey> levi_   lshw | less
[05:00] <barnaby> yeah,what he said.
[05:02] <allanc> help me run a full session kde 4.. i cannot understand this-->
[05:02] <allanc> To run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop, edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4.
[05:02] <intelikey> word   'should' ?  by whos definition of what should and should not be ?      word it would be nice if it did,   but how do you propose to get it to ?      the fs needs to be unmounted before the disk is made unavalable,   and there in lies the problem    if some reall fancy coder would build that into the kernel so that anytime an fs was not accessable it was automaticly marked as unmounted that would be nice.
[05:02] <allanc> I copied the kde4.desktop
[05:03] <allanc> but I do not know about the export lines
[05:03] <barnaby> Does anyone know if there is a peer guardian plugin for azureus, and if so, where what how,etc?
[05:03] <adenicio> how to activat the ption in beryl so they can work?
[05:04] <intelikey> word however for reasons "some obvious and some more obscure" that is not an easy task.    if all write functions were syncronus it would be much easier but all disk activity would slow considerably
[05:06] <word> intelikey: Hmm it would seem that it already attempts to trigger the eject command..but not with root privleges...ejecting from the button works when I don't boot with the cd in the drive.
[05:06] <machinecraig> Say, could some one drop by www.cnn.com and tell me if it looks totally fucked up to them also?>
[05:06] <adenicio> how to activat the option in beryl so they can work?
[05:06] <intelikey> word i assume you mean hal is attempting to dismount it ?
[05:07] <levi_> well i dont understand this i think it might be ATI has an unkown device ??
[05:07] <barnaby> got cnn open right now...looks fine
[05:07] <machinecraig> gracias barnaby - i must have hosed something up locally...
[05:07] <word> intelikey: ...sure
[05:07] <barnaby> de nada
[05:08] <levi_> ok if it was the soud card driver is there someway to reinstall ???
[05:09] <adenicio> how to activat the option in beryl so they can work?
[05:10] <adenicio> how to activate the option in beryl so they can work?
[05:11] <levi_> is it impossible to update or install drivers in ubuntu ????
[05:11] <Biovore> no
[05:11] <levi_> well does any1 know how ???
[05:12] <barnaby> someone in the forums must have an answer for you,levi
[05:12] <intelikey> word yes and when successful that will keep the system from dragging to a stop with i/o errors    but it's still late.   that is the attempt is made because the i/o errors have already started...     granted that is soon enough if successful on read only media    but not at all on writable media   that is if you had something writing to it and hardware ejected it not only would the fs on the disk be corrupt but the kenrel w
[05:12] <Biovore> levi_: what are you tring to do..
[05:13] <barnaby> levi has no sound
[05:13] <Biovore> what sound card?
[05:13] <barnaby> not sure what card he has
[05:13] <levi_> I think ATI but idk
[05:14] <barnaby> alsamixer did nothing for him
[05:14] <intelikey> !sound > levi_ some people find this useful
[05:14] <Biovore> levi_: pop open a konsol session and type "lspci | grep Multimedia"
[05:15] <whizadree> hey
[05:16] <intelikey> word in short,  until the kerenl can handle loosing mounted fs's you'll just have to live with software ejecting things.
[05:16] <whizadree> i just heard that france is getting 100mb connections as standard adenicio , is that true?
[05:17] <Biovore> no clue.. but most euros enjoy 30MB/s standard
[05:17] <levi_> bash: lspci | grep Multimedia: command not found
[05:17] <whizadree> i feel like im crippled with 8mb compared to the rest of the world
[05:17] <Biovore> lspci?  it should be there by default..
[05:18] <levi_> I or L
[05:18] <Biovore> L
[05:18] <barnaby> lspci is not on my machine
[05:18] <barnaby> lshw works, though
[05:18] <levi_> ok I have ubuntu if that matters
[05:18] <Biovore> works here..
[05:19] <Biovore> lspci is basicly standard on all linux systems for the last 5 years..
[05:19] <whizadree> anyway ive got a small problem today , anyone know how to get back a lost eth0 network card what was overtaken by a wlans mac ,,, i got the wlan to go to wlan but now no eth exists now is there a auto find unused network cards?
[05:20] <levi_> ok so what now
[05:20] <barnaby> you are right biovore, it was piping it to grep that  didn't work
[05:20] <Biovore> levi_: try lspci again..  it got to be there..
[05:20] <barnaby> or try lspci | less?
[05:21] <Biovore> "LSPCI" all lower case
[05:21] <adenicio> whizadree: why ask me?i dont know i got only dial-up 42kbits.but this morning i was on windows i saw it went up to 115kbits.i dont know nada about 100mb right now im fighting my mom to get dsl but she cant do nothing because it undr my sister name who never there when u need her
[05:21] <adenicio> :-(
[05:21] <Biovore> well  lspci | grep Multimedia works here..
[05:21] <levi_> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[05:21] <Biovore> my SB0400 pops right up..
[05:21] <Biovore> levi_: this a laptop?
[05:21] <barnaby> i tried that here, right back to #
[05:21] <levi_> yes
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i can see that
[05:22] <Biovore> ok.. your just basicly screwed then.. sorry..  ATI dosn't support that product on linux.. and hasn't release any info to also to make a driver for linux..  Dell is pushing the subject for all the ATI products..
[05:22] <barnaby> i typed lspci and it filled the screen.
[05:22] <barnaby> lshw | less worked fine
[05:22] <intelikey> google hates me...
[05:23] <intelikey> always has
[05:23] <Biovore> levi_: Untill ATI gets real.. you probably won't have any sound... :-(
[05:23] <levi_> it worked fine on a live ubuntu cd from1 yr ago
[05:23] <barnaby> (thanks intelikey)
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> barnaby, the | less pipe works with anything
[05:23] <intelikey> i'm not sure the feeling isn't mutual
[05:23] <Biovore> levi_: maybe.. some do work.. but there spotty
[05:24] <intelikey> pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less pipe less       should i use less pipes ?
[05:24] <Biovore> levi_: actually that paticual model is support.. 1 sec..
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, what happened this time?
[05:24] <Biovore> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-ATI <-- see very bottom
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, heh
[05:25] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i'm still looking for a good howto on sshkeys   and passwordless login
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ugh, good luck with that one...
[05:25] <Biovore> levi_: it looks like that card is just a rebrand of the intel HD audio..
[05:26] <Biovore> should work out of the box..
[05:26] <barnaby> I have an Intel card- and that doesn't work on some distros
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ssh is ported from bsd right? maybe check some of those wikis
[05:26] <yarly> how do you check cpuinfo
[05:26] <barnaby> slackware hates my sound card
[05:27] <Biovore> levi_: snd_hda_intel <-- module "driver"  for the card..
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> barnaby, no, the 2.4 kernel hates your soundcard more likely :P
[05:27] <Biovore> yarly: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:27] <intelikey> i know there is one    i saw it before.   just don't know where and i had a system catastrophy ( == reload ) so lost some things...      yeah  but there was a linux*.org/howto   that was good
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, howtoforge maybe?
[05:28] <Biovore> openssh is ported from openbsd :-P
[05:28] <intelikey> maybe
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, linuxquestions.org? was that the site?
[05:28] <olylug> I'm having trouble getting postgres to work. su - postgres prompts for a password, which I leave blank like I'm supposed to, but then I get su: authentication error.
[05:29] <yarly> Hum. My system isn't recognizing my 4th gb of ram
[05:29] <yarly> is that unusual?
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> yarly, 32 bit?
[05:29] <olylug> yarly, are you using 64 bit"?
[05:30] <yarly> olylug: Nupe.
[05:30] <Biovore> yarly: depends..  what kind of computer..  AGP systems can only address 4GB so if you have PCI cards and AGP memory, you down to about 3 GB
[05:30] <yarly> It's a brand new mobo AM2 w/ PCI-E support, I havn't thrown in my PCI-E card yet
[05:30] <allanc> can I use gutsy's artwork in gnome?
[05:30] <olylug> nupe?
[05:30] <yarly> nope*
[05:30] <Biovore> try the 64bit version of the OS
[05:30] <olylug> oh,
[05:30] <olylug> then that's yoru problem
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> yarly, but you're running the 32 bit kubuntu, right?
[05:31] <olylug> only 64 bit OS's can recognize over 3 GB of ram
[05:31] <yarly> I thought there was a lot of conflicts w/ the 64-bit OS of Ubuntu
[05:31] <intelikey> i have a terrably over burdened ppp at this time..
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> "no one should ever need more than 640k of RAM" :P
[05:31] <yarly> lol
[05:31] <Biovore> olylug: well the 32bit can  on 32bit systems..  but to the 32bit OS you look like a weird system.. no extened memory manager..
[05:32] <allanc> can I use gutsy's artwork on feisty?
[05:32] <Biovore> no clue.. gutsy isn't fully finished yet..
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> allanc, what artwork would that be?
[05:32] <allanc> kdm themes, window decorations, etc
[05:32] <yarly> Will ubuntu recognize 4gb of ram or no?
[05:33] <allanc> i mean, the kubuntu gutsy artwork meta package
[05:33] <Biovore> allanc: kdm themes probably.. window directions probably..
[05:33] <Biovore> and colors
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> allanc, yup
[05:33] <whizadree> im getting eth0:error No Such Device when restarting with /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:33] <Biovore> whizadree: ifconfig -a dosn't show the interface eather?
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, what does ifconfig say?
[05:33] <allanc> can I add the gutsy artwork repository?
[05:34] <Biovore> allanc: don't know about that..
[05:34] <whizadree> no eth0 or eth1 at all
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> allanc, won't work, i don't think
[05:34] <Biovore> allanc: dependincy hell
[05:34] <allanc> ooh.. i guess I will have to do it manually
[05:34] <Biovore> yup
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> allanc, you can't cross version repos afaik
[05:34] <yarly> Can I run 32bit progs on a 64bit OS?
[05:34] <Biovore> whizadree: dmesg | grep eth  show anything..
[05:34] <whizadree> hitmanWilly  when i do ifconfig comes up with lo and wlan0
[05:35] <Biovore> yarly: yes.
[05:35] <Biovore> there is emulation
[05:35] <yarly> Biovore: Will I be able to run WoW and VMWare/
[05:35] <Biovore> thats how you get flash working
[05:35] <Biovore> yarly: you should..
[05:35] <yarly> Biovore: How do you setup Emul;ation?
[05:35] <Biovore> yarly: I havn't much with it much..
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> yarly, its all library linking or setting up a chroot
[05:36] <Biovore> I got my old brezzy box thats it 64bit to do the newest flash.. thats about it..
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> yarly, in other words, a pita
[05:36] <Biovore> ^ yup
[05:36] <yarly> Bummer. I'll stick w/ 32bit.
[05:36] <Biovore> well I think wine dose that for you..  mplayer will do it for video codecs..
[05:36] <whizadree> hitmanWilly  , hmmmm ACPI error (psparse-0537) node bade header (node df8072d4)
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> the funny thing about multiarch is that the childproofing in ubuntu actually makes it harder
[05:37] <Biovore> whizadree: Mob o on the way out?
[05:37] <whizadree> nope
[05:37] <Biovore> Is it a new mobo?
[05:37] <whizadree> but hold on i might have an idea
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, have you been fiddling with bios settings lately?
[05:37] <whizadree> let me try resetting the bios
[05:37] <Biovore> ^ that could be it as well
[05:37] <yarly> !ACPI
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <yarly> bah
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, or manually setting IRQ's?
[05:38] <whizadree> heh
[05:38] <yarly> ACPI basically is your power settings w/ your BIOS
[05:38] <yarly> in a very small nutshell
[05:38] <Biovore> ACPI -- Advanced Configuration and Power Interface.
[05:38] <yarly> So, just because my system doesn't recognize that there is 4gb does that mean it will never, ever use the last gig?
[05:38] <yarly> ^ that too
[05:39] <Biovore> yup.. you can't address it with out an extenned memory manager.. 64bit processor don't have those..
[05:39] <Biovore> there not needed on a 64bit OS..
[05:39] <yarly> How do I get an extended memory manager/
[05:39] <Biovore> it in the chip..
[05:40] <Biovore> not software..
[05:40] <Biovore> Most 32bit processors have a 48bit memory addressing scheme
[05:40] <whizadree> hitmanWilly  : would it matter if i just completly turn ACPI function off?
[05:40] <Biovore> (I think)
[05:42] <adenicio> how do i log in to ubuntu effects?
[05:42] <Biovore> the Irc Channel?
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, you could try it
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, ive had mixed results when disabling acpi
[05:45] <whizadree> hitmanWilly : ok that error message is gone and left with wlan0 using the correct driver nothing else
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, have you tried lshw to see if the card is even seen?
[05:49] <elite101> just came back from Defcon15 it was great
[05:49] <elite101> lol i wish***
[05:50] <elite101> is solaris any good? my friend orderd the DVD and it came today he doesnt want it, i thought i would give it a try? anything i should be aware of?
[05:51] <gandhii> kind of hitting a wall with setting up this kubuntu box as a samba server...  server shows up.. shares show up..  but when I click on one.. i get "unable to create io-slave" error from with the kubuntu box.. and a general "not accessible" error from the windows box.    any ideas?
[05:51] <gandhii> got it set up to turn all users to one user that is set up as owner as well as access...  and with accesss to the share
[05:51] <gandhii> what am i missing?
[05:52] <whizadree> hitmanWilly : well it was see on first install . i downloaded all the updates using it then the wlan kicked in and bam see ya eth0 ... anyway the test result for lshw is a negative .... !network - wireless interface only
[05:52] <DamnSL>  I have a question, where can I get an Older Version of Kubuntu that supports 800x600 Resolution as its standard setting
[05:53] <elite101> 6.06? im using it on 800x600 and it works fine
[05:53] <DamnSL> hmmm
[05:53] <elite101> and it supports 1024x860 and works good too
[05:53] <DamnSL> well
[05:53] <elite101> shouldnt all the kubunt distro's use that setting?
[05:53] <DamnSL> I ran a live CD with 6.06 but some type of error stopped the boot up
[05:53] <Biovore> DamnSL: its a xorg configuration..
[05:54] <DamnSL> xorg?
[05:54] <whizadree> do you have ati?
[05:54] <Biovore> thats the thing that does the graphics..
[05:54] <DamnSL> yeah
[05:54] <miles> hello all
[05:54] <whizadree> its that ATI problem
[05:54] <DamnSL> you mean the model?
[05:54] <miles> question - does anyone here program in C?
[05:55] <Biovore> yes
[05:55] <miles> do you have a preferred ide?  currently using kate + gcc
[05:55] <Biovore> thats what I use.. or Vim and gcc
[05:55] <miles> oic
[05:55] <miles> ok
[05:55] <whizadree> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI might be something of use it was with me
[05:55] <miles> !C
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <Biovore> there is also kdevelop..
[05:55] <DamnSL> ok
[05:55] <DamnSL> whizadree
[05:56] <miles> yea, i got that from the repos, i didnt really like it
[05:56] <Biovore> miles: yeah.. I do most everything from the command line anyway..  if you know how to write MakeFiles and or use cmake.. life is simpler that way..
[05:58] <Biovore> miles: also doing that way makes it more portable..
[05:58] <Biovore> It makes you development requirements simple..  A text editor and gcc and friends.. which everyone has..
[05:59] <whizadree> no sign of the eth0 anywhere
[06:00] <Biovore> whizadree: dosn't show up in dmesg?
[06:00] <whizadree> nope
[06:00] <Biovore> does it show up in lspci?
[06:00] <whizadree> im going thru the logs
[06:01] <whizadree> ok im going nuts (someone has stolen my onboard network card , who done it :-P
[06:01] <Biovore> whizadree: if it doesn't show up in ether dmesg or lspci,  I say you got a hardware issue (check bios)
[06:02] <whizadree> looks like its a bios ( i hope ) issue
[06:02] <Biovore> well alot of the onboard stuff can be disabled in the bios..
[06:02] <Biovore> anyway off to bed with me.. night guys
[06:03] <whizadree> gnite tnx btw
[06:04] <miles> bye
[06:05] <miles> kate + gcc = crazytown
[06:08] <elite101> i gotta get to bed too, its like 11:58 :P
[06:08] <elite101> nite
[06:08] <whizadree> 12:09
[06:08] <whizadree> by atomic
[06:15] <yanchao> 
[06:15] <miles> !time
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <Carutsu> is that chinesse?
[06:17] <Carutsu> !ch | yanchao
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <w|nb0nD> is 7900gt a good card for the 3d desktop?
[06:19] <yanchao> yes
[06:21] <Carutsu> !cn
[06:21] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:21] <Carutsu> !cn| yanchao
[06:21] <ubotu> yanchao: please see above
[06:21] <Carutsu> i had to search the ISO code
[06:21] <Carutsu> :P
[06:22] <family> help?
[06:23] <tank> anyone have any experence getting boinc to run on a shell?
[06:23] <tank> ubuntu server...
[06:23] <yanchao> thanks
[06:23] <Carutsu> yanchao: no problem
[06:23] <underdog5004> family, what's the problem?
[06:24] <Carutsu> tank no, but you can check the manual by "man boinc_client"
[06:24] <squaretro> screen resolution
[06:24] <squaretro> cant change it
[06:24] <tank> ya I know
[06:24] <tank> I just need someone who knows a little bit about it I think...man isnt very detailed
[06:24] <underdog5004> squaretro, have you tried going through kmenu > system settings> Display settings?
[06:24] <underdog5004> try that
[06:25] <squaretro> it was something else and then i could change it changed it to 1024x768 then it went to 640 when i started back up
[06:25] <underdog5004> ah
[06:25] <squaretro> yes
[06:25] <squaretro> it wont let me change it
[06:25] <underdog5004> do this: kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste it to pastebin, please
[06:27] <underdog5004> squaretro, do you understand?
[06:27] <squaretro> i think so
[06:28] <squaretro> open the file with kate?
[06:28] <underdog5004> yes, please
[06:28] <squaretro> k
[06:28] <squaretro> got it
[06:29] <underdog5004> now copy/paste it to pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:29] <underdog5004> then give me the address, please
[06:29] <ZeroTolerance> Anyone know of a client similiar to limewire that isnt java based?
[06:29] <underdog5004> ZeroTolerance, bittorrent: rtorrent, ktorrent, ctorrent
[06:29] <squaretro> alright workin on it
[06:30] <underdog5004> squaretro, ok, no rush
[06:30] <dickm35> Anyone use Kubuntu for small buisness? Everyone likes it better than ubuntu/They like the KDE bit
[06:30] <Aranel> I need a program for extracting ".uha" files, can anyone help me
[06:30] <underdog5004> dickm35, I've used it in a business before...
[06:30] <underdog5004> Aranel, just google .uha
[06:30] <squaretro> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/33006/
[06:31] <underdog5004> squaretro, ok, working on it
[06:31] <ZeroTolerance> No torrents, Im looking for something more p2p file sharing based.
[06:31] <dickm35> underdog> all okay ??
[06:31] <underdog5004> dickm35, yeah, no problem...I didn't use any "business" type programs, though
[06:32] <dickm35> This is just small stuff and my Wife does the letters etc.
[06:32] <underdog5004> squaretro, you've got two options.
[06:32] <squaretro> k
[06:32] <underdog5004> dickm35, yeah, there're money management programs, similar to quickbooks, etc...
[06:33] <underdog5004> squaretro, you can manually edit your xorg.conf to reflect the changes you want, basically adding in resolutions you want
[06:33] <squaretro> alright
[06:33] <dickm35> Sounds good, I am a software engineer so I can link etc
[06:34] <underdog5004> or, you can just log out, log in again as a console only deal, and do sudo dpkg --configure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <underdog5004> dickm35, cool
[06:34] <squaretro> alright that one souds easier
[06:34] <squaretro> the second option i mean
[06:34] <underdog5004> it was the "just" that did it, huh?
[06:34] <underdog5004> lol
[06:34] <squaretro> yep
[06:35] <underdog5004> have fun
[06:35] <squaretro> o n that the computer will ask me what i wan to do
[06:35] <underdog5004> actually, wait
[06:35] <squaretro> i hope
[06:35] <squaretro> ?
[06:35] <underdog5004> sudo dpkg --configure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:35] <underdog5004> that way you only need to select the driver (leave that alone) and the resolutions you want
[06:36] <underdog5004> Space selects an option, arrow keys to move, enter to accept
[06:36] <squaretro> so dont mess w/ the driver?
[06:36] <underdog5004> squaretro, nah, it should be ok
[06:36] <underdog5004> are you on feisty?
[06:36] <squaretro> yeah
[06:37] <dickm35> Okay guys will be at it on my desktop in about 4 or 5 hours Thanks
[06:37] <underdog5004> squaretro, yeah, it'll be fine, just hit enter on the first screen
[06:37] <underdog5004> have fun!
[06:37] <Aranel> underdog5004:  i searched in google but i can't find anything ?
[06:37] <underdog5004> Aranel, where did you get the file?
[06:38] <Aranel> underdog5004: oyun-arsivi.com - Turkish.
[06:38] <underdog5004> Aranel, hmm, never heard of that type before...what's it for?
[06:38] <Aranel> underdog5004: Game :)
[06:39] <underdog5004> hmm...may be a proprietary format...try unzip filename.uha
[06:39] <abel> sorry, compizfusion works in ubuntustudio?
[06:41] <Aranel> underdog5004: won't work :)
[06:41] <underdog5004> Aranel, I have no idea, sorry
[06:43] <hangthedj> its uharc compression thats barely ever used.
[06:44] <mrksbrd> does anyone know a web site where they have a list of different desktop sessions avail for d/l???
[06:44] <hangthedj> search for uharc on www.google.com/linux
[06:53] <whizadree> hey ppl i just found this http://www.mylittleubuntuguide.com/live-dvd/
[06:53] <underdog5004> whizadree, ummm, left field much?
[06:54] <whizadree> under ... lfm?
[06:55] <underdog5004> that came out of nowhere
[06:55] <whizadree> im darn supper happy :)
[06:55] <whizadree> if this dvd works ALL my problems are solved
[06:55] <whizadree> and some ATI ppl to
[06:55] <underdog5004> I don't tend to download linux isos from 3rd parties...kinda sketchy
[06:56] <underdog5004> squaretro, how'd it go?
[06:56] <whizadree> true , but just to get a visual x on my dell would be a good start
[06:56] <squaretro> it tells me xserver-org is already configured
[06:57] <underdog5004> whizadree, lol
[06:57] <underdog5004> squaretro, hmmm
[06:57] <hangthedj> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=169309 (i found this for a uha work around.
[06:57] <underdog5004> squaretro, h/o, lemme look around...
[06:57] <squaretro> k thanx
[06:58] <underdog5004> squaretro, I'll paste my xorg.conf, you can see the format that the settings are in (I'll bold them)
[06:59] <squaretro> cool thanx
[07:01] <dfrey> Why is it that when I open a video in kaffeine, the progress bar moves along quickly, but there is no sound or video?
[07:02] <underdog5004> squaretro, http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/33012/
[07:02] <underdog5004> dfrey, you don't have the right codecs for it
[07:02] <squaretro> thanx alot
[07:02] <underdog5004> try vlc
[07:02] <underdog5004> squaretro, np
[07:03] <whizadree> underdog5004  do you know how an onboard network card could vannish ( and no sign of a control in bios )
[07:03] <underdog5004> whizadree, ummm, bad card? try lspci  | grep Network to see if it's really vanished
[07:03] <underdog5004> or ifconfig -a
[07:03] <dfrey> underdog5004: hmm,  I installed w32codecs, so I thought I should be ok
[07:04] <underdog5004> there are more, ha ha
[07:04] <underdog5004> !gstreamer-plugin
[07:04] <whizadree> yeah tried that udog nothing there
[07:04] <underdog5004> whizadree, weird, try popping in a different ethernet cafd
[07:04] <underdog5004> card
[07:04] <whizadree> onboard
[07:04] <underdog5004> dfrey, google around for gstreamer-plugins-multiverse
[07:04] <whizadree> lights on
[07:05] <underdog5004> whizadree, hmmm
[07:05] <underdog5004> whizadree, what does ifconfig -a reveal?
[07:06] <whizadree> my wlan that did take over eth0 before it vannished and the loopback lo
[07:06] <underdog5004> whizadree, pastebin it, please
[07:07] <whizadree> different pc
[07:08] <squaretro> hey mines got a @60 after the 640x480 for the hertz do i need to do that to ever resolution? and i think before it was at 85
[07:08] <underdog5004> whizadree, do you have access to it?
[07:08] <whizadree> yup
[07:08] <squaretro> k
[07:08] <underdog5004> squaretro, stay with 60 to start out with, once you get the res up, then fiddle with the refresh rate
[07:08] <squaretro> k
[07:09] <underdog5004> after every change you make/save, you need to hit control-alt-backspace. this will restart the xserver and apply the changes
[07:09] <underdog5004> whizadree, could you ifconfig -a > file.txt and move that file onto your computer via usb drive and pastebin the output for me?
[07:09] <underdog5004> whizadree, also, try sudo ifup eth0
[07:10] <underdog5004> and do this : cat /etc/network/interfaces | grep eth0
[07:11] <underdog5004> guys, I gotta go to a party...if you have questions, ask someone knowledgable (admiral_chicago, Junato, genii) or email @ computingsolutionsbiz@gmail.com
[07:11] <underdog5004> bye
[07:11] <whizadree> h/o
[07:11] <underdog5004> yes...?
[07:12] <whizadree> timehub is me
[07:12] <underdog5004>  ok, leaving now
[07:12] <whizadree> ill email you the info
[07:12] <adenicio> anyonethere?
[07:12] <whizadree> adenicio did u get it working?
[07:13] <adenicio> whizadree: get wat working?
[07:13] <whizadree> waz it u with the graphic card prob or was that some1 else
[07:14] <adenicio> whizadree: beryl?no the things are not working win the windows go up in flames etc
[07:15] <adenicio> whizadree: do u know how to activat the effects with beryl?
[07:15] <adenicio> how to activat the effects with beryl?
[07:15] <whizadree> well im trying to get a working X 1st on this dell
[07:16] <LinuxAddict> wow offtopic chat is dead
[07:17] <whizadree> heh
[07:17] <whizadree> movng h/o
[07:17] <LinuxAddict> When I try to run Beryl is says xcomposite extension     :failed
[07:18] <LinuxAddict> any ideas?
[07:18] <LinuxAddict> then says Beryl: No composite extension
[07:18] <elite101> hey how much Videoram is the current highest on the market now?
[07:18] <elite101> i have seen 320Mb by nvidia 8800GTx is there a 512mb ram yet?
[07:19] <elite101> anyone? know
[07:20] <dfrey> underdog5004: I take it I need to do more than just uncomment the multiverse line in /etc/apt/sources.list in order to get gstreamer-plugins-multiverse
[07:20] <holycow> dfrey: sudo apt-get update first
[07:20] <holycow> then search and install
[07:21] <LinuxAddict> Beryl: No composite extension when i try to run it from konsole, any ideas what it means?
[07:21] <dfrey> holycow: it's still not there...
[07:23] <holycow> dfrey: apt-cache search gstreamer plugins multiverse
[07:23] <holycow> notice thereare more than one in that category
[07:26] <dfrey> I see
[07:27] <adenicio> is linux more protected then windows from hackers?
[07:27] <holycow> yes
[07:27] <holycow> but
[07:27] <squaretro> the module monitor and display could not be loaded i must have messed up... bad
[07:27] <holycow> linux gives you a VERY BIG gun to shoot your self in the foot with
[07:28] <holycow> you can easily make your self hackable and that is true  for any os
[07:28] <holycow> but on linux you are HIGHLY encouraged by the whole community to learn about security and how to use a system properly
[07:28] <holycow> on windows you are taught that the customer is always right an dyou can remain an idiot for all your life and that is okay
[07:29] <adenicio> lol
[07:29] <whizadree> thats why i sit behind a router then a firewall then a linux firewall
[07:29] <holycow> i don't speak for the community, but it's my observarion that willing idiots are not exctly welcomed with open arms
[07:29] <holycow> whizadree: bingo
[07:30] <holycow> but make an effort to learn and better your self, oh yeah, thats super cool :)
[07:31] <adenicio> my system is not protected good then.thist the 5th time someone try to conetc on my thing asking me if i will let them too and also use my mouse n keyboard tru samba
[07:31] <holycow> adenicio: the moral of the story is while 'yes' you are essentially getting a tank for free that is maintained for you by the community, security relies heavily on social variables of which  you are in control and have direct effect on.  thus you control how secure linux is in the end.
[07:31] <whizadree> another good tip for any known ports that are always tried for hack attempt fwd them to 192.168.6.66
[07:32] <holycow> they can'tuse your mouse through samba
[07:32] <holycow> and yes people will try to trick you
[07:32] <holycow> and yes people will try to connect to your system without asking
[07:32] <holycow> there are a lot of things you can do to secure your self
[07:32] <whizadree> should of seen the apache logs trying to find ways in
[07:33] <holycow> adaptr: so for example are you behind a router of some kind right now?
[07:33] <adenicio> whizadree: how to fwd them?
[07:33] <holycow> if not i strongly recommend you get one as soon as possible
[07:33] <holycow> its the easiest thing to put up a barrier between you and the outside
[07:33] <whizadree> adenicio: you have a router?
[07:34] <adenicio> nope
[07:34] <holycow> adenicio: you shouldn't have too much to worry about ... get one as soon as you can tho
[07:35] <adenicio> okidoki
[07:35] <whizadree> could you setup kub' to be a router?
[07:35] <holycow> yes
[07:35] <holycow> its pretty complicated and you need to know about networking
[07:35] <adenicio> !kub
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <holycow> a router just lets you focus on hiding to start off with
[07:36] <whizadree> yeah then your messing around with iptables n stuff then you loose your way on the yelo brick rd
[07:36] <adenicio> how to activat the options in beryl to take affects?
[07:37] <adenicio> llol
[07:38] <squaretro> help?again sorry
[07:40] <yarly> Any suggestions for where to go to correctly setup ati/fglrx drivers/
[07:40] <whizadree> yup
[07:40] <yarly> where?
[07:41] <whizadree> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:41] <yarly> tyvm
[07:42] <whizadree> np
[07:43] <squaretro> anyone help me get my monitor and display module to work again?
[07:44] <yarly> unreg user, thx again whiz
[07:45] <iqzugjhot> 
[07:45] <iqzugjhot> ...
[07:46] <iqzugjhot> ~~
[07:46] <Kenny> is anybody here~~~~~~~
[07:49] <adenicio> no
[07:50] <whizadree> anyone used project looking glass?
[07:53] <adenicio> holycow: how u get to know i got one open?
[07:54] <holycow> because your not behind a router your system is visible to anyone
[07:54] <holycow> a computer is supposed to do that, when you enable a service on the network it lets people see it
[07:57] <holycow> chances are you also have a windows  box around for file sharing, thats why your samba is turned on, i would actually worry about that box first
[07:57] <holycow> hehe
[07:57] <adenicio> holycow: yea but out of all does people its mine u found that easy.wa u did type my name?
[07:57] <ubuntu__> whats the module name to give me write access to an ntfs partition?
[07:57] <holycow> just use a portscanner tool
[07:58] <ubuntu__> anyone?
[07:58] <whizadree> yeah but becareful some isps get pee'd and say you broke there t+c for using one if you type in an external ip
[07:59] <ubuntu__> !ntfs
[07:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:59] <ubuntu__> !ntfs-3g
[07:59] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:01] <whizadree> whats the cmd to run a .deb file
[08:01] <holycow> you don't run a deb file you install it
[08:01] <holycow> sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[08:02] <whizadree> kk need some updates
[08:04] <adenicio> holycow: is it doscan u does use?
[08:05] <adenicio> holycow: i cant beleave they will put that in the reposotory
[08:05] <holycow> anw, i have no idea, its just in gnome
[08:05] <holycow> why?
[08:05] <holycow> it just tells you what everyone already knows
[08:05] <holycow> you haveto be careful to becourteous as someone said above and not break your network rules
[08:05] <holycow> but it only shows you what you already opened up to the world
[08:06] <holycow> the issue is with you, the user
[08:06] <surgy> will someone send me the diskimage to the super grub disk please?
[08:06] <holycow> it can't do anything you don't let it do
[08:06] <holycow> its kind of like walking around on the street and noticing what people are wearing
[08:06] <holycow> public knowledge
[08:06] <surgy> ?
[08:06] <holycow> if you scan me you will see i have http and ssh available
[08:07] <holycow> no biggie, public knowledge you can't do anything with them either
[08:07] <adenicio> holycow: how do i scan u then?is it from konversation?i install doscan i cant find it
[08:08] <meson10> I run fiesty x86_64, and have installed nvidai-glx-new
[08:08] <dsmith> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3150795#post3150795
[08:08] <holycow> i have no idea, i just lock stuff down i don't waste time on things like that
[08:08] <meson10> i cannot revert to 1280X800
[08:08] <holycow> i just used whatever that tool is in gnome
[08:08] <meson10> My Laptop automaticaly revretd to 640X480 ...and i wish to turn it back to 1280X800 can it be done?..i use nvidia-glx-new and running Kubuntu Festy x86_64
[08:08] <surgy> i dont have a browser, and i need the super grub cd to get back to linux, can someone help me please?
[08:09] <holycow> surgy: you have wget
[08:09] <holycow> how about a url?
[08:09] <holycow> oh and you also have lynx from command line
[08:09] <holycow> you can browse using that if you haveto
[08:09] <Assid> hey
[08:09] <surgy> holycow, whats wget?
[08:10] <dsmith> thats a good question
[08:10] <holycow> type in man wget, its a download tool
[08:10] <surgy> and i cant use a url because i have no browser
[08:10] <adenicio> !super grub
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about super grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <holycow> yes you can
[08:10] <Assid> 1
[08:10] <dsmith> if windows wont boot on a dual boot system what would chkdsk /p /r do?
[08:10] <holycow> if you have command line  you use wget to downlooad files
[08:10] <holycow> if you have command line you also have a browser called lynx
[08:10] <dsmith> would it mes with the ext3 partition
[08:10] <holycow> install it and browse the web from command line
[08:10] <surgy> im in windows....... trying to get my linux fixed
[08:10] <holycow> ah thats different :)
[08:10] <Assid> bah dual boot is so passe
[08:10] <holycow> what do you need to fix?
[08:10] <Assid> vmware :)
[08:10] <surgy> yeah......
[08:10] <dsmith> passe, lol
[08:10] <holycow> reinstall grub?
[08:11] <adenicio> im going to sleep laterz
[08:11] <dsmith> Assid: Virtual box
[08:11] <Assid> dsmith: virtual os
[08:11] <sam_> what is ext3 fill super? any links?
[08:11] <holycow> !ext3
[08:11] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[08:11] <surgy> i ne the grub disk, i cant install grub onto windows part, becuase windows part is fucked, and i reinstalled onto linux part like ten times no fix
[08:11] <dsmith> Assid: VB is the very same as vmware
[08:12] <holycow> why not install grub from ubuntu livecd if you have that?
[08:12] <arun> dsmith: not really
[08:12] <dsmith> !virtualbox
[08:12] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[08:12] <holycow> and why not install it on the boot partition? you don't haveto install it on the linux partition, and no, you can't install it on the windows partition btw
[08:12] <Assid> oh.. i thought your saying it is a virtual box. duh :|
[08:12] <dsmith> lol
[08:12] <surgy> holycow, i did ten times on my linux partition. but thats not fixing it, and it wont let me reinstall grub on windows partition
[08:13] <holycow> well thats becaused you cannot install it on th ewindows partition
[08:13] <holycow> thats normal
[08:13] <holycow> why not install it on the BOOT partition?
[08:13] <sam_>  what is ext3 fill super? any links?
[08:13] <holycow> as opposed to your linux partition?
[08:13] <holycow> oh i think i know what you mean, your using terminology a little weird
[08:13] <holycow> lets see
[08:13] <Assid> dsmith: which os's does it support?
[08:13] <surgy> well i need the disk to reinstall
[08:14] <surgy> becuase the tutorial on reinstall grub doesnt fix my problem
[08:15] <holycow> what are you looking for exacly any? supergrub disk? whats it called exactly?
[08:15] <surgy> ive done it all day long
[08:15] <holycow> i'll send it to you no prob
[08:15] <surgy> yes and thnx
[08:15] <whizadree> do you have multiple hdd's?
[08:15] <surgy> i have two
[08:15] <holycow> so what do you need  ... .the cd image?
[08:16] <holycow> okay downloading
[08:16] <holycow> i guess  you want me to dcc it?
[08:16] <whizadree> maybe its seeing the boot from the hda(0,1) but the grub is installed on hda(2,0)
[08:16] <surgy> yes please, and a program to burn it/ extract it. im stuck here
[08:16] <holycow> accept
[08:16] <whizadree> take out one of the dsic change the bios to boot to that only
[08:16] <whizadree> disc
[08:17] <whizadree> see if grub works
[08:17] <surgy> and iexplore keeps crashing every 2 seconds, windoze blows
[08:17] <holycow> if you don't have a browser on your windows box ... what do you mean? but you irc?
[08:17] <holycow> you don't have firefox on that?
[08:17] <holycow> lol want me to send that to you as well?
[08:17] <holycow> there you go
[08:17] <holycow> let me knkow if you need anything else
[08:17] <surgy> cant install, only 1 cdrom cant burn cd with live cd in
[08:17] <whizadree> HC got 1$mil
[08:18] <holycow> uh firefox is a single exe installer, you don't need a cdrom
[08:18] <surgy> i need a program to burn the iso
[08:18] <holycow> you re in windows right now, you know double click to install
[08:18] <holycow> surgy: oh god hahaha
[08:18] <surgy> yeah my windoze is fried, missing 1000 dlls
[08:18] <holycow> i have no idea what that is on windows i don't use it
[08:18] <holycow> ah okay
[08:18] <holycow> right click on iso and see if it lets you burn image? no idea
[08:18] <surgy> burn4free
[08:18] <whizadree> purge the windows
[08:18] <holycow> okay lets see
[08:19] <Assid> i still think my hdd is dead
[08:19] <whizadree> reintall kubuntu and use a recover programe if you wanted anything
[08:19] <holycow> thats what you need, burn4free?
[08:19] <holycow> okay
[08:19] <surgy> trying to purge windoze
[08:19] <surgy> yes please
[08:19] <holycow> sec
[08:19] <Assid> okay what do you guys think of thijs
[08:19] <holycow> accept
[08:19] <surgy> thnx
[08:19] <surgy> i hope it installs :)
[08:20] <holycow> there ya go
[08:20] <Assid> i booted up for the first tiem today since i jkust woke up.. and konqueror refuses to access my homedir or the 2nd drive.. i reboot.. it works..
[08:20] <holycow> no worries,
[08:20] <surgy> thnx a million man
[08:20] <Assid> didnt used to happen before i attached my 2nd drive
[08:20] <holycow> yup no prob
[08:21] <Assid> when i mkfs.ext3 the 2nd partition i added -c -c to do a read/write test.. which just said "done"
[08:21] <Assid> you guys think this drive is dying?
[08:21] <dsmith> swap it with another to see
[08:22] <Assid> dsmith: me ?
[08:22] <surgy> ok its burning :)
[08:22] <surgy> hopefully ill brb
[08:22] <surgy> on linux
[08:22] <holycow> forever
[08:22] <holycow> :)
[08:22] <meson10> My Laptop automaticaly revretd to 640X480 ...and i wish to turn it back to 1280X800 can it be done?..i use nvidia-glx-new and running Kubuntu Festy x86_64
[08:22] <surgy> yes forever!!!!!
[08:23] <Assid> haha this is funny.. slashdot article is about dell/ubuntu in europe.. and it has a msft add there
[08:23] <Assid> dsmith: was that line for me
[08:23] <Assid> nvidia-glx-new/
[08:27] <surgy> yes!!!
[08:27] <surgy> im back
[08:28] <holycow> hallelujah
[08:28] <surgy> but my grub is still screwy
[08:28] <holycow> time for you to take the windows drive out, reinstall from scratch
[08:28] <holycow> and move your windows drive either to a removable tray or to a usb tray
[08:28] <surgy> seams like windoze still wants to auto boot, unless i use my supergrub disk (thank god holycow is here) to force boot into kubuntu
[08:29] <Assid> is nvidia-glx-new recommended?
[08:29] <surgy> or to the trash, but for now i just want to make it so that kubuntu is the defualt boot
[08:29] <holycow> for new cards only Assid
[08:29] <surgy> yes
[08:29] <surgy> assid very recomended
[08:29] <Assid> i got a Geforce FX 5200
[08:29] <holycow> surgy: cool well welcome back
[08:30] <whizadree> now destroy windoz
[08:30] <Assid> would it help for that card?
[08:31] <surgy> assid: yes i have an 6800 xfx
[08:31] <surgy> and i use that driver
[08:31] <Assid> hrmm yours is newer than mine
[08:31] <Assid> okay brb.. i gotta restart X
[08:32] <Lopin> Help...  Linux died... Must find way to get linux to boot off of a floppy...
[08:32] <Lopin> Help...
[08:36] <Lopin> Hello?
[08:36] <qin> hl
[08:37] <whizadree> heh just got beryl running making me kinda dizzy
[08:37] <Assid> back
[08:37] <Assid> nvidia-glx-new didnt work for me
[08:37] <whizadree> Assid: try this http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[08:38] <Assid> nvidia-glx works fine tho
[08:40] <Assid> "If you have a GeForce4, you may need the nvidia-glx package."
[08:41] <Assid> 
[08:41] <Assid> check out the apt-cache show nvidia-glx-new
[08:45] <dvm> howto insert unicode data in SQLite?
[08:47] <Aranel> how can I share a file with my Guest XP in VirtualBox ?
[08:47] <linux_user400354> how can i force a certain resolution to be used when doing startx without modifying the xorg.conf?
[08:47] <Ch1ppy> hey, my KDE UI is randomy freezing up for a few seconds.  I can move the mouse, but I cannot type or do anything.  Can anyone help me out?
[08:51] <ardchoille> Ch1ppy: Maybe a dumb question, but have you checked that the keyboard plug hasn't pulleed out a bit?
[08:52] <Ayabara> hi. anyone using the new kde beta in kubuntu? is it stable enough to use on a dauly basis?
[08:55] <Assid> Ayabara: is there such a thing as stable enough?
[08:55] <Ayabara> Assid, heh. point taken
[08:55] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: yeah, if it doesn't crash, it's stable enough
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> windows isn't stable enough
[08:56] <Assid> exactly what im saying
[08:56] <Assid> evertything crashes
[08:56] <Assid> thats the fact of life
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: so there is such a thing
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> but no one has achieved it yet
[08:56] <Assid> yes
[08:56] <Assid> not even nature
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> look at planes, they're not stable enough
[08:57] <Assid> is water stable ??? no.. its actually pretty volatile.. it evaporates and freezes.. depending on the temperature
[08:57] <allan> is aptitude okay to use to remove ubuntu-desktop if I installed it using the ubuntu cd?
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> but in practive, they're pretty close.
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> practice
[08:57] <Assid> close doesnt cut it with me..  :P
[08:57] <Assid> hehe
[08:58] <kraut> moin
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: air isn't stable, you need it to live, it's close, but if that doesn't cut it, do you have to stop breathing? :P
[09:00] <Assid> nah it doesnt make it to my "stable" list
[09:02] <Kite_DH> hello
[09:02] <Kite_DH> does somebody know what  means?
[09:03] <dvm> How can I store Unicode data(Tamil) in SQLite? I am very new to SQLite and Unicode, Please suggest some links.
[09:05] <Assid> how do i get sudo to ask for password
[09:06] <Daisuke_Ido> it stores it for 10 minutes, i think
[09:06] <dvm> How can I store Unicode data(Tamil) in SQLite? I am very new to SQLite and Unicode, Please suggest some links.
[09:12] <under2x> dvm: unicode is a pita
[09:13] <under2x> dvm: what prog lang are you using?
[09:17] <AscendedDaniel> what's the easiest way to capture video from a camera onto my hd?
[09:17] <whizadree> have you tried the studio
[09:17] <allan> what packages do I install to enable multimedia in edgy?
[09:18] <AscendedDaniel> I have not tried the studio. Is it a program?
[09:18] <whizadree> assid hows it comming along?
[09:19] <Assid> well.. seems doable i guess
[09:19] <Ayabara> so.. have any of you tried kde4?
[09:19] <Assid> dont see any quality improvement
[09:19] <AscendedDaniel> video, btw, not stills
[09:19] <whizadree> ah man im xxxd
[09:19] <Mkr> bUEOS DIAS
[09:20] <whizadree> i just threw a bug into my wifes open jar of food
[09:20] <whizadree> :-/
[09:20] <Assid> hrmm.. you better throw that out
[09:21] <whizadree> is unbuntu studio still going?
[09:22] <Assid> bah.. still gotta install skype
[09:22] <Assid> i woinder if i should use the repositories' or skypes site
[09:22] <whizadree> throw a coin
[09:22] <Assid> i need to decide.. not lose money
[09:22] <whizadree> if it lands on its side write your own
[09:23] <Assid> if it rolls away.. you write it for me
[09:24] <whizadree> if the tax man grabs it before you trhow it , contact microsoft
[09:25] <Assid> nah
[09:25] <whizadree> 14 mins and my bays 1yr old
[09:25] <Assid> the tax man prolly gives it to microsoft eventually anwyays
[09:25] <whizadree> babys
[09:25] <Assid> nice
[09:26] <Assid> happy baby birthday
[09:26] <whizadree> even better
[09:26] <whizadree> Happy Baby Birthday Bryce
[09:26] <Assid> alrite..im gonna watch some hustle
[09:27] <underdog5004> I'm back...
[09:28] <whizadree> hey UD
[09:28] <underdog5004> hey
[09:28] <whizadree> still no eth
[09:28] <underdog5004> bummer...did you paste/email the output?
[09:28] <whizadree> nah been kinda bz trying to stay awake
[09:28] <whizadree> :)
[09:29] <whizadree> actually i havent setup email on this box yet
[09:29] <underdog5004> lol, I was pretty drunk for about 40 minutes...then I sobered up...I'm such a light-weight...I'm going to bed now...
[09:29] <underdog5004> remember, computingsolutionsbiz@gmail.com
[09:30] <whizadree> no probs as soon as i get email up
[09:31] <flipstone> hello, just a little question, are there people that use 64bit kubuntu, if yes, how can i get flash working, if no, i go 32bit :-)
[09:32] <whizadree> try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[09:33] <AscendedDaniel> I have gotten it working in the past with those instructions, on a new install now and haven't tried again
[09:33] <pag> !flash64 | flipstone
[09:33] <ubotu> flipstone: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:34] <flipstone> tnx a lot, i'll try
[09:35] <pag> flipstone, another option is Gnash 0.8.x. It works pretty well, for what I've heard.  But 32bit is really far easier. Imho there's no real advantage of using 64bit yet, but there're plenty of disadvantages
[09:58] <Ragol> hmm... I reinstalled my kubuntu a couple of weeks ago, and now there are some things that doesn't work
[09:58] <Ragol> like can't use konqueror (or any other programs) to save/load through sftp://account@address like before
[09:58] <Ragol> also print screen-key doesn't open ksnapshot anymore
[09:58] <Ragol> any ideas what's going on?
[09:59] <Ragol> this is 7.04 with latest updates
[10:07] <surgy> ok, so anyone here use vmware? or a similar program?
[10:08] <pag> surgy, in other words; if you don't do a survey, it's probably better just to ask a question(s) you have :)
[10:09] <Ragol> yep, I agree, btw. we're using quite much vmware at work
[10:09] <Ragol> at least comparing the time before I came here ;)
[10:09] <surgy> lol, ok, is it freeware? if so where can i get info? my problem is i need a virtual machine running windows98 or newer, and wine/cedega will not work for my problem. i have recently had a dual boot nightmare and wont do that again for awhile, so i came here in hopes of finding someone who has ran a virtual machine emulating a complete os or at least the major parts
[10:11] <Ragol> vmware player and server are free, and have installation packages at least in the 7.04
[10:11] <pag> surgy, Virtualbox is free (as in beer) and iirc it's core is also free as in speech..
[10:11] <Ragol> for server you need some additional package sources for apt
[10:11] <surgy> ok
[10:12] <Ragol> pag: where can you find virtualbox, is it included in some version of ubuntu?
[10:12] <surgy> let me read a bit on virtual box, can you run an entire os on it? for example can i run an entire install of win98?
[10:12] <pag> Ragol, their page has a deb, I'm not sure if it's included in any of the repos
[10:12] <Ragol> yep, it acts like a virtual computer inside your real computer
[10:12] <Ragol> pag: ok, have to check
[10:13] <pag> !virtualbox
[10:13] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[10:13] <Ragol> pag: any experience whether vmware or virtualbox is faster?
[10:13] <pag> :) ubotu knows all :)
[10:13] <Ragol> ubotu is a king :)
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a king :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <Ragol> *sigh* ;)
[10:14] <pag> Ragol, I haven't tried VMWare, so I don't rally know :-/
[10:14] <Ragol> okay, maybe I'll try
[10:14] <surgy> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[10:14] <Ragol> I'm running win server 2003 inside vmware server that's running on my kubuntu, and it could be faster
[10:15] <Ragol> even though it has 1.5G ram and this is dual core with VT enabled...
[10:15] <Assid> hrmm.. im running vmware for my windows xp image.. works fine.. little slow.. but yeah
[10:15] <Assid> Ragol: virtual environments are always slow
[10:15] <Ragol> Assid: yep, they are slower of course than real machines
[10:15] <Assid> you could try a few things to try and make them faster
[10:15] <Ragol> and I think that the main problem is the microsofto server software we have to run on our virtuall 2003 server
[10:16] <Ragol> it just is awful slow
[10:16] <Ragol> on the other hand, its previous version is slow also in the real machine...
[10:16] <Assid> Ragol: pm'd you some settings you can put in your vmx
[10:16] <Ragol> yep
[10:16] <Assid> also.. try setting the number of cpus to 2
[10:17] <surgy> ok what about this scenerio(i cant spell): i have a gamepad that has no linux native driver, can i install windows 98 in virtual box and then use the windows native driver inside of the virtualization? or does it only emulate drivers you have on the physicle box?
[10:19] <dasana> hello
[10:19] <Ragol> Assid: I tried to response you, but it seems that I'm an unregistered user at the moment, so...
[10:19] <pag> !hi | dasana
[10:19] <ubotu> dasana: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:19] <dasana> I am a newbie using kubuntu,
[10:20] <surgy> pag: will virtualbox do what i want?
[10:21] <pag> surgy, emulate a OS? - yes.  emualte a device? - dunno, I'd guess not
[10:22] <Ragol> same here, can't of course be sure, don't know enough
[10:22] <surgy> ok thnx ill play with it and see if it suites me
[10:22] <pag> dasana, if you have any questions to ask, then ask ahead; we will be happy to help :)
[10:22] <dasana> Thank you Pag
[10:23] <Ragol> so, no one seems to have any ideas why my kde can't use sftp-protocol anymore
[10:23] <Ragol> or?
[10:24] <pag> Ragol, does that require any extra packages - if it does, the do you have them installed?
[10:25] <Ragol> that what I'm also thinking, the weird thing is that I've done the fresh install two times and at the first time it worked
[10:25] <Ragol> second, not
[10:25] <Ragol> of course there can be some package missing
[10:25] <Ragol> or some config string
[10:25] <arun> apparently lenovo is going to sell laptops with suse linux preloaded
[10:26] <intelikey> !alian
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <intelikey> ?
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[10:26] <dasana> Pag :How do I install printer Canon in KDE ?
[10:26] <pag> !cups | dasana
[10:27] <ubotu> dasana: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:27] <intelikey> !rpm
[10:27] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:27] <intelikey> !alien
[10:27] <dasana> ubotu, thanks for your info
[10:27] <pag> !ubotu | dasana
[10:27] <ubotu> dasana: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:28] <pag> :)
[10:28] <intelikey> is there an alien howto some place ?
[10:28] <pag> intelikey, man alien  has probably some info
[10:29] <intelikey> probably some.
[10:29] <intelikey> man page != howto    but yeah.
[10:31] <Mo0oSaH> Hello everyone
[10:31] <surgy> whats the easiest command to see how much free space i have on a hard drive?
[10:32] <intelikey> hello Mo0oSaH     -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 30.791 seconds
[10:32] <intelikey> surgy   df -h   if you mean mounted fs's
[10:32] <pag> surgy, well; not easy, but handy; df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[10:33] <surgy> well the partition i want to check is sdb1 if that helps?
[10:33] <surgy> the full command please?
[10:34] <pag> surgy, those two command you were given check all the partitions.. so they should both work
[10:34] <surgy> thank you
[10:35] <dasana> Hi Everyone
[10:36] <intelikey> and again i stress   fd  shows stats only on mounted fs's   i don't actually know an easy way to check unmounted fs's.
[10:36] <surgy> ok kewl
[10:36] <surgy> the one i wanted to check is mounted so that works for me
[10:36] <flipstone> i go back to 32 bit, 64 bit is not good yet :p
[10:37] <intelikey> s/fd/df/        dur de dur dur dur....
[10:39] <Joel654> hey guys got some ideas y after editing my /etc/X11/xorg.conf i get a black screen i tryed puting the file back and it still don't give me the login screen
[10:42] <surgy> ok one more question, how do i add a user to virtualbox?
[10:43] <pag> surgy, to the group?  sudo adduser $YourUserName vboxusers   iirc
[10:44] <intelikey> what is this... alien can convert to/from everything except .deb  ?????     only to deb   what gives ?
[10:45] <surgy> surgy@surgy:~$ sudo adduser surgy  vboxusers   iirc
[10:45] <surgy> Password:
[10:45] <surgy> adduser: Only one or two names allowed.
[10:45] <Ragol> oh
[10:45] <Ragol> don't put the iirc there :)
[10:45] <dasana> Pag: How Do I compile and install file from source ?
[10:45] <Ragol> it mean if i recall correctly :)
[10:45] <Ragol> means
[10:46] <pag> !b-e | dasana
[10:46] <ubotu> dasana: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:48] <surgy> pag: ok i added me as a user..... how do i log into it now? it wont let me start my VM becuase im not a user, but now i am, and i get the same error
[10:48] <pag> surgy, relogin
[10:48] <pag> surgy, iow; logout and login back
[10:48] <surgy> out of kubuntu?
[10:48] <pag> surgy, yup
[10:48] <surgy> ok kewl
[10:50] <dasana> log off, thanks
[10:59] <intelikey> well looks like i can't compile this driver....  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38754
[11:02] <intelikey> howto find what gcc built my kernel ?
[11:06] <intelikey> will executing   /lib/libc-2.3.6.so   answer that ?
[11:17] <ruggero> halo
[11:17] <ruggero> ciao
[11:19] <pag> hi
[11:27] <CrypTom> hi all, in dapper/edgy, there used to be a leo (and libnet-dict-leo-perl) package. Is there a way to get it for feisty?
[11:28] <stamen> hi
[11:28] <intelikey> !find ltmodem dapper
[11:28] <stamen> does anybody use powertweak
[11:28] <ubotu> Package/file ltmodem does not exist in dapper
[11:28] <trekdanne> powertweak?
[11:29] <intelikey> !find ltmodem
[11:29] <ubotu> Package/file ltmodem does not exist in feisty
[11:38] <stamen> !powertweak
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powertweak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <nana> bonjour
[11:43] <trekdanne> hello, english only unfortunately... maybe take a look at:
[11:43] <trekdanne> !fr
[11:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:43] <nana> !fr
[11:46] <Aranel> !tr
[11:46] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:56] <Tyro> hey guys i need some help
[11:57] <pag> !ask | Tyro
[11:57] <ubotu> Tyro: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:58] <Tyro> i'm buying a laptop that comes standard with xandros Linux, it doesn't have an optical drive, and i'm not sure if all external CD drives will work, i need the Drive to install kubuntu. will any of these work http://search.ebay.com.au/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=portable+CD+rom&category0=
[12:03] <trekdanne> Tyro: maybe network installation, if you just gonna use it to install kubuntu
[12:03] <Tyro> what is network instalation
[12:03] <Tyro> install through gigabit?
[12:04] <trekdanne> yea
[12:04] <djdarkman> Tyro: external CD drives work
[12:04] <djdarkman> I know it because I have one
[12:04] <Tyro> even if it sais that they support windows
[12:04] <Tyro> they need no emulation?
[12:05] <Tyro> can you network install through wireless aswell?
[12:06] <djdarkman> Tyro: never tried network install, but I installed a kubuntu with an LG Super Multi USB DVD drive
[12:06] <Tyro> is that expensive, because all i needed the drive for was instalation, and that's why this netowrk instalation sounds good
[12:07] <trekdanne> the BIOS must support network boot though
[12:07] <djdarkman> Tyro: DVD/CD writers are not Windows-dependent thing, they are PC dependent, so if you want to install a kubuntu from an USB drive, your PC must support booting from USB
[12:07] <djdarkman> Tyro: how old your system is?
[12:08] <Tyro> well, what system the one i'm going to install on or the one i'm using now
[12:08] <djdarkman> Tyro: the one you want to install on
[12:08] <Tyro> i havn't bought it
[12:09] <Tyro> i'm thinking of getting an Asus Eee PC 701
[12:09] <Dasana> Hi..All, I cannot find "adept" in K-->System-->Package manager, Pls hlp
[12:09] <djdarkman> Dasana: ALT-F2 and type adept_manager and press ENTER
[12:10] <Tyro> trekdane, how would i do a network instalation from a windows machine to a Xandros machine
[12:11] <Tyro> installing Kubuntu
[12:11] <Dasana> I saw "run command' and type "adept_manager". It said "could not run"
[12:11] <djdarkman> Tyro: this Laptop must have USB and network boot features
[12:11] <djdarkman> Dasana: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[12:11] <Tyro> i'm going to install Kubuntu
[12:11] <Tyro> i don't have any linux systems, this will be my first
[12:12] <Dasana> Hi djddrkman, i am suing kubuntu
[12:12] <trekdanne> hmm i would probably be easier to install kubuntu from another linux system
[12:12] <trekdanne> it would probably
[12:12] <djdarkman> Dasana: ALT+F2 , type konsole and press ENTER
[12:12] <djdarkman> then type there
[12:13] <Tyro> ok, well that's ruled out then, i'll prolly be better off getting a cheap CD drive of ebay
[12:13] <Tyro> 20 bux
[12:13] <djdarkman> sudo apt-get install adept
[12:13] <djdarkman> and ENTER
[12:13] <djdarkman> and enter your password
[12:13] <trekdanne> anyway it should be possible to do it from a windows installation, although I haven't done it
[12:13] <Assid> man this is strange
[12:13] <Assid> thunderbird is acting supert slow
[12:13] <Tyro> can you install kubuntu over the old OS
[12:14] <Assid> anyone here good with thunderbird ?
[12:14] <djdarkman> Tyro: yes if you know basic partitioning
[12:14] <Tyro> so  that you have nothing but kubuntu
[12:14] <Tyro> why do you have to be able to partition
[12:14] <djdarkman> Tyro: so you want to nuke the old OS?
[12:14] <Dasana> djdarkman: It said "Invalid operation adept"
[12:15] <Tyro> well, the system comes standard with Xandros Linux, and i want to completly over ride it with Kubuntu
[12:15] <djdarkman> Dasana: than that means you didn`t write it down correctly, don`t leave out the "install" parameter
[12:16] <Dasana> Do I need to reinstall then ?
[12:16] <Ragol> my problem got solved, you need to install this package: kdessh
[12:16] <djdarkman> Tyro: than you just click on erase entire partition when you install kubuntu and you are done
[12:16] <Ragol> then you can open/save/copy files behind an ssh connection straight through your kde programs
[12:16] <Tyro> so, it will make it totally just Kubuntu and clear the whole hdd
[12:16] <djdarkman> Tyro: yes
[12:16] <Tyro> ssh?
[12:17] <Tyro> he isn't talking to me is he
[12:17] <Ragol> no, I'm not
[12:17] <Ragol> in irc people talk quite much and you just have to learn to read/found the lines that are for you...
[12:18] <Assid> stupid thunderbird
[12:18] <Assid> acting all strange on me
[12:18] <djdarkman> Does someone here know how to use the ubuntu wiki? it`s a little strange to me
[12:18] <djdarkman> Assid: why not use kmail?
[12:18] <Ragol> btw. playing with Virtualbox right now, when it's installed, can say at least something about the performance thing...
[12:18] <Assid> djdarkman: i used to like thunderbird.. atleast until i was on windows
[12:19] <Ragol> you can get kmail for windows, can't you? :)
[12:19] <Assid> it has alot of nice extensions and stuff.. and i need the profile to be backwards compatible on windows
[12:19] <Assid> kmail for windows ??!?
[12:19] <Ragol> sorry
[12:19] <Assid> your kidding me right ?
[12:19] <Ragol> I meant to say, you can't get that for windows, can you
[12:19] <Ragol> I don't think you can
[12:19] <djdarkman> Ragol: as I noticed vmware is much faster than virtualbox
[12:20] <Ragol> djdarkman: I also think so, but I'm checking
[12:20] <Assid> bah beagle search is crazy.. time to load up google
[12:20] <Tyro> so djdarkman, all external CD drives should work out of the box?
[12:20] <trekdanne> you will have to wait until the upcoming KDE4 realease i suppose
[12:20] <Dasana> djdarkman: Please advise
[12:20] <djdarkman> Assid: sorry didn`t know you ere on windows, btw read an arcticle that google is faster than beagle
[12:21] <Assid> i just want thunderbird to to be as fast as it was on windows.. on linux
[12:21] <djdarkman> btw Assid some time maybe kmail will be ported on windows
[12:21] <djdarkman> Tyro: yes
[12:21] <djdarkman> Dasana: maybe
[12:21] <djdarkman> Dasana: need to see what that command outputs to you
[12:21] <Assid> djdarkman: im on linux.. finally moved my primary desktop on it.. but i dont like NOT having the option of porting my emails back incase i "EVER" go back to winblows
[12:22] <Ragol> Assid: why don't you use imap? that way you could use whatever client you like?
[12:22] <djdarkman> Assid: why delete your emails from the server? if you leave them there you could access them from any client
[12:23] <trekdanne> Thunderbird / firefox are generally slower than konqueror and kmail, in my experience
[12:23] <Assid> djdarkman: so its better ot use the google desktop search ?
[12:23] <djdarkman> in my expiriance firefox is slower than anything :D
[12:23] <Assid> djdarkman: nah.. alot of my accounts are for pop.. easier to search
[12:24] <djdarkman> Assid: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=7976
[12:24] <trekdanne> djdarkman: yea that's probably true, although IE7 is pretty slow too
[12:25] <Dasana> Djdarkman:Sorry I did not get you
[12:25] <Tyro> if i've burned a CD at a high speed and put it in to a  lower speed drive, will it still run?
[12:25] <djdarkman> Dasana: sudo apt-get install adept
[12:25] <djdarkman> type this
[12:25] <djdarkman> and tell me what it says
[12:25] <Assid> damn.. i wish i knew what to do
[12:26] <Assid> djdarkman: any other mail client.. maybe evolution or something available on both platforms?
[12:26] <djdarkman> trekdanne: I`m also web developer but never use IE
[12:26] <djdarkman> Assid: don `t know, I would advise you to use gmail... it makes life easyer
[12:26] <djdarkman> * easier
[12:27] <Assid> haha.. nah.. this is on my domains.. my servers.. and i "DO" need some of these accounts to run pop
[12:27] <Dasana> Djdarkman: It said "Could not find package adept." How do I get it ? Thanks
[12:28] <djdarkman> Dasana: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:28] <djdarkman> and then paste the output to http://djdarkman.pastebin.us/
[12:29] <djdarkman> so I can examine it
[12:29] <mecannotread> guys i got a debian package ymessenger how can i install
[12:30] <djdarkman> mecannotread: don`t recomend that
[12:30] <djdarkman> ymessenger is very ugly for linux
[12:30] <pawan> kernel panic not syncing error
[12:30] <mecannotread> ok thanks gguys
[12:31] <pawan> vfs error
[12:31] <djdarkman> mecannotread: but if you insist on installign it then type sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_filename.deb
[12:31] <Dasana> djdarkman: message is "no such file or directory"
[12:31] <djdarkman> mecannotread: if you use kubuntu I recomend kopete instead of ymessenger
[12:31] <mecannotread> djdarkman ok thanks
[12:31] <Tyro> i'm guessing the laptop i'm getting has some form of network or usb boot, because it doesn't have any cd or floppy, so how else would they get the OS on there
[12:31] <djdarkman> Dasana: who installed your kubuntu?
[12:32] <djdarkman> Tyro: all "new" systems have network and usb boot
[12:32] <Dasana> My self :P
[12:32] <Tyro> i would have guessed
[12:32] <Assid> crap i cant decide
[12:32] <Assid> okayt one issue at a time
[12:32] <Assid> anyone know where beagle stores its cache ?
[12:33] <djdarkman> Dasana: did you delete something you didn`t know what was it about?
[12:33] <djdarkman> Assid: ~/.beagle/
[12:34] <Dasana> djdarkman : I have no idea, What is your suggestion ? Thanks
[12:34] <Assid> err its user specific ?!!?!?
[12:35] <djdarkman> Dasana: it seems to me that you are missing some files, don`t know exactly what files, I can try replace this single one or you could reinstall kubuntu
[12:35] <djdarkman> Assid: yes
[12:35] <Assid> crap.. i hope google does it system wide
[12:35] <Assid> i dotn want the same search cache for each user on the box
[12:36] <Dasana> djdrkman: Appreciate if you could replace this single one
[12:36] <djdarkman> Assid: It must be configureable altough on multi user systems it`s not a good idea
[12:36] <Assid> hrmm so you guys think i should move to kmail instead of thunderbird ?
[12:37] <djdarkman> Dasana: ok wait then
[12:37] <Assid> djdarkman: me and my bro use this machine
[12:37] <runlevelten> Assid: yes.
[12:37] <Assid> runlevelten: hows evolution ?
[12:37] <runlevelten> If only because it's a more mature implementation - stuff works as expected all the time.
[12:38] <djdarkman> Assid: then you canconfigure google to be single user...
[12:38] <runlevelten> Assid: Well, it's not great as an email client imo, more for the groupware-centric context
[12:38] <runlevelten> however, you *may* really like it, so do try it :)
[12:38] <Dasana> djdarkman: Ok, Thank you.
[12:38] <Assid> hrmm.. does google desktop cache kmail entries ?
[12:39] <nomad111> hey all my kubuntu wont boot up
[12:39] <runlevelten> I would imagine so. The other desktop search apps do.
[12:39] <runlevelten> Have you tried strigi, assid?
[12:39] <nomad111> fsck fails and i am required to login as root to fix the problem but i dont know how
[12:39] <Assid> hrmm kmail uses maildir ? or sngle mbox ?
[12:39] <runlevelten> It's open source, and not slow and bloated like beagle
[12:40] <Assid> strigi ?
[12:40] <nomad111> recovery console stuf...
[12:40] <nomad111> stuff*
[12:40] <runlevelten> yeah, it's in the repos
[12:40] <mecannotread> nomad111 try to install again..
[12:40] <runlevelten> KDE 4 will have it by default, and it's very fast and light
[12:40] <djdarkman> Dasana: i`ll type your commands, what you need to do simoutaniously line by line, if I type a command in a new line that means it`s a seperate command, so here we go
[12:40] <runlevelten> Think Beagle without the suck.
[12:40] <Assid> reads kmail ? and ms office files ?
[12:40] <djdarkman> Dasana: cd /etc/apt/
[12:40] <nomad111> mecannotread u cant afford to
[12:41] <runlevelten> I use it to search my mails and docs
[12:41] <djdarkman> Dasana: sudo wget http://darknet.eof.hu/sources.list
[12:41] <djdarkman> Dasana: sudo apt-get update
[12:41] <djdarkman> Dasana: sudo apt-get install adept
[12:41] <Assid> runlevelten: thats pretty much what i need  it for too
[12:41] <mecannotread> nomad111 i got it just like you after my first install.
[12:41] <Assid> and sometimes some web history as well
[12:41] <djdarkman> last time I tried strigi it was a pain
[12:42] <runlevelten> strigi on kubuntu is easy now. There aren't many nice interfaces for it, so I've written one in python
[12:43] <Assid> hrmm.. it doesnt have support for ms office doc files :(
[12:43] <runlevelten> It doesn't? Ah therein lies an issue - I use OOo and stuff, you see
[12:44] <runlevelten> a .doc plugin must exist somewhere though.
[12:44] <Dasana> djdarkman : building dependency tree..done. But...
[12:44] <djdarkman> Dasana: ?
[12:44] <Dasana> djdarkman: E: couldn't find package adept
[12:45] <Assid> 0.5.1 has it
[12:45] <djdarkman> Dasana: did you type  sudo apt-get update ?
[12:45] <runlevelten> changelog for 0.5.1 - native support for microsoft office and pdf
[12:45] <runlevelten> aha, you found that :)
[12:45] <Assid> now to see what comes with feisty
[12:46] <Assid> runlevelten: yes.. i do try and google myself too.. to see what i can find.. so i dont look like an idiot
[12:46] <Assid> i know people dont like it when they dont read themselves .. i try and make it easier not to fall in that category ;)
[12:46] <Assid> when possible
[12:47] <Dasana> djdarkman: yes, I did. sorry I need sign off. Can we chat later?. Really appreciate for your help
[12:47] <Assid> feisty has 3.1 ?
[12:48] <djdarkman> Dasana: if I will be here yes
[12:49] <Assid> runlevelten: how would i get 0.5.1 on kde 3.x ?
[12:49] <Assid> or rather feisty
[12:50] <runlevelten> Build it from source, unless there's a backport
[12:50] <runlevelten> packages here are 0.5.4, of course :(
[12:51] <Assid> here?
[12:51] <Assid> oh
[12:51] <runlevelten> 0.5.4 is what comes from the repos
[12:51] <Assid> kubuntu has 0.3.11
[12:51] <Assid> wayy too old
[12:51] <runlevelten> I'd installed it first on kubuntu, didn't realise it was such an old version.. grrr.
[12:52] <runlevelten> Assid: the Debian way, sadly.
[12:52] <Assid> yeah
[12:52] <runlevelten> and the only real disadvantage of the Debian way.
[12:52] <runlevelten> imo
[12:52] <Assid> one of the reasons why i prefer a debian box..
[12:53] <runlevelten> apart from some "enterprise" stuff which is better/easier elsewhere :)
[12:53] <Assid> alrite hold on. lemme try and get all the packages for this ready
[12:53] <Assid> my net sucks
[12:54] <runlevelten> whacking a build env togetherAssid?
[12:54] <Assid> er.. not exactly
[12:54] <Assid> need the libraries
[12:56] <runlevelten> right
[12:56] <Assid> you know ive spent more time trying to get this stupid box to work.. than i have actually using it
[12:59] <utnubuk> my display got stuck on 640x480 after a restart, which packages might i try reinstalling?
[01:01] <utnubuk> !displays
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about displays - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <utnubuk> !display
[01:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:03] <dabreeze> whats the name of  the task bar at the bottom of the screen, and how do i start it again?
[01:04] <Assid> stupid stupid konqueror
[01:04] <Assid> doesnt render pages properly
[01:04] <Ragol> dabreeze: klicker if I recall correctly
[01:04] <dabreeze> ty
[01:05] <Assid> alrite who here gave the comment konqueror was superior to firefox
[01:05] <Ragol> sorry, kicker
[01:05] <Ragol> if you're running kde, of course :)
[01:05] <Assid> it isnt
[01:05] <Assid> it doesnt render pages properly
[01:05] <dabreeze> Ragol: do you know where the system-settings for it would be. like where it will let me move it to the side, etc
[01:05] <Assid> or rather handlew them
[01:06] <Assid> stupid broken crap
[01:08] <Ragol> dabreeze: just klick the panel with the right button of your mouse (or left if you're using it left handed..) -> panel menu -> configure panel
[01:08] <Ragol> did that help?
[01:08] <trekdanne> Assid: hmm maybe not quite right to say that in the #kubuntu channel :)
[01:08] <dabreeze> Ragol: problem is its hidden and wont come back, is there a terminal command to get that config up?
[01:08] <Assid> nah.. people here are pretty open minded most of the time to nothing being perfect
[01:09] <Ragol> dabreeze: oh
[01:09] <Ragol> well
[01:09] <Assid> we wouldnt have never versions and bug fixes
[01:09] <Ragol> what if you try to start it from konsole or something?
[01:09] <Assid> Ragol: check out www.pienotech.com in both firefox and konqueror
[01:09] <Ragol> alt-f2 -> type konsole -> there type kicker
[01:10] <dabreeze> dabreeze@dabreeze:~$ kicker
[01:10] <dabreeze> ERROR: kicker is already running!
[01:10] <llutz> Assid: looks identical to me (koknq ff 2.0.0.6)
[01:10] <Ragol> dabreeze: killall kicker && kicker
[01:10] <Assid> llutz: try using the horizontal scroll
[01:11] <llutz> Assid: thers no horizontal scroll at all
[01:11] <Assid> sorry.. i mean vertical
[01:12] <trekdanne> Assid: scary table stuff you got there :)
[01:12] <dabreeze> Ragol: that killed it, i ran it again, and it showed up, and auto hit at the bottom, and im back to square 1, i need to launch the config for it
[01:12] <Assid> within the frame/layer
[01:12] <llutz> Assid: ah, now, i see :)
[01:12] <Assid> time to bug report
[01:13] <Ragol> dabreeze: okay, let's see...
[01:13] <Nahi> can anyone help me configure pppoe please?
[01:14] <dabreeze> Ragol: got it. terminal>kcontrol>desktop>panels
[01:14] <Ragol> okay, nice
[01:15] <dabreeze> Ragol: thanks for the help, Good luck to you all... cant wait for Gutsy!!
[01:15] <Assid> hrmm developing web pages on linux is odd.. the fonts just dont seem to match
[01:15] <runlevelten> Assid, I see no difference between the two.
[01:15] <runlevelten> konqueror vs. ff.
[01:16] <Nahi> i use them both
[01:16] <Assid> runlevelten: use the horizontal scroll in konqueror
[01:16] <Nahi> connecting to ftp from ff is useless u cant do anything not upload or control the files
[01:16] <runlevelten> horizontal scroll? You mean vertical?
[01:18] <trekdanne> yea refering to konqueror as a simple webbrowser is wrong.
[01:21] <Assid> runlevelten: yes.. sorry
[01:21] <prudvi>  when i run adept_updater it says database locked
[01:21] <prudvi> [16:51]  [Error]  when: Unknown command.
[01:23] <runlevelten> Assid: yes, you're right. Firefox is marginally better at handling the broken Internet Explorer specific scrollbar implementation
[01:23] <runlevelten> Well done Firefox.
[01:24] <Assid> broken scrollbar implementation?
[01:25] <Assid> hey you sure strigi is bettert thanrunning google desktop?
[01:25] <runlevelten> I don't run Google Desktop for two reasons.
[01:26] <runlevelten> 1. The Google links to it repeatedly took me to a (rather ironic) 404 not found page on the day I was interested
[01:26] <runlevelten> 2. There are functional open source implementations that integrate into my desktop and can be altered to suit my requirements.
[01:27] <runlevelten> Assid: read the css file attached to that page. A bunch of non-standard scrollbar stuff FF throws away.
[01:27] <runlevelten> Try konqy on a real web page.
[01:28] <Assid> i made that page
[01:28] <runlevelten> Not that it's perfect, but, if the page is broken, don't blame the clients :)
[01:28] <runlevelten> Assid: then shouldn't you fix it ;)
[01:28] <Assid> but other clients can handle broken stuff
[01:29] <runlevelten> What sort of excuse is that? Heh.
[01:29] <Assid> hahaha
[01:29] <runlevelten> So you're saying that konqueror is broken because it doesn't handle... broken stuff as well as it could?
[01:29] <runlevelten> Heh
[01:30] <Theory> including links? ;-)
[01:31] <runlevelten> Yes, including links, epiphany and screen readers for the blind.
[01:31] <runlevelten> so ner, haha
[01:33] <Assid> dammit.. strigi is a pain
[01:33] <runlevelten> How come?
[01:33] <runlevelten> what, buildin' it?
[01:34] <Assid> yeah..specially if you want gui
[01:34] <Angelus> hello  , how do i check how much free space  have on my hard disc ?
[01:35] <Assid> i cant get the qt4 libraries to gert on it
[01:35] <trekdanne> Angelus: df -h
[01:38] <runlevelten> See that's why os is good for work - when you need to be able to have the latest ready made and tested working packages 5 minutes ago.
[01:38] <Assid> yeah well.. find me the backports.. and im hgappy
[01:38] <runlevelten> not that strigi is necessarily there, but it gets the same coverage
[01:39] <Assid> hrmm.. i see this page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty-backports/libs/ dont understand what to do
[01:41] <Assid> bah.. im just gonna get google desktop
[01:41] <Assid> this is irritating me
[01:41] <utente> ciao
[01:41] <runlevelten> was beagle too much for you then?
[01:41] <utente> 
[01:42] <utente> italiani
[01:42] <runlevelten> !it | utente
[01:42] <ubotu> utente: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:42] <Indo_man> Hi All, I am newbie using Kubuntu
[01:43] <utente> ma cos  sta cosa
[01:43] <runlevelten> utente: Pardon?
[01:43] <Indo_man> Anyone can help me, install flash media ?
[01:43] <runlevelten> !flash
[01:43] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:43] <utente> a cosa serve qst programma
[01:44] <Assid> didnt do the job
[01:44] <runlevelten> utente: Do you speak English or not?
[01:44] <utente> no
[01:45] <runlevelten> Assid: what, beagle didn't? Beagle's functionality is regarded as very comprehensive...
[01:45] <runlevelten> -superfluous very
[01:46] <runlevelten> !it | utente
[01:46] <ubotu> utente: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:47] <runlevelten> Sorry, old bean. :)
[01:47] <runlevelten> !adeptcrash | prudvi:
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <runlevelten> !adeptcrashfix | prudvi:
[01:48] <ubotu> prudvi:: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:48] <prudvi> ok
[01:48] <runlevelten> Sorry pruvdi, I missed you before :)
[01:48] <prudvi> thanku i will try that
[01:48] <Indo_man> Hi ubotu: Need your help what's command next after dowload file
[01:48] <Assid> runlevelten: im gonna wait for it to come out in gutsy.. then consider changing
[01:48] <Assid> meanwhile.. what do i do about these fonts
[01:49] <runlevelten> Indo_man: What are you installing?
[01:49] <runlevelten> Flash?
[01:49] <Assid> sites look BAD when they use something like arial .. on X/linux
[01:49] <runlevelten> That's because arial is bloody disgusting, mate.
[01:50] <Indo_man> runlevelten:i need flash flayer
[01:50] <Assid> runlevelten: yeah but it looks doable on windows.. actually anything on the browser i use here looks like weird
[01:50] <adenicio> help!everytime i leave feity on to go sleep to get up the system goes bad by saying:config could not be save ...read only
[01:50] <Assid> but anything i use in konversation and kopete.. looks alrite
[01:51] <adenicio> does the hdd goes to sleep or something?
[01:51] <Assid> atleast decent
[01:52] <Assid> brb.. lets see if the nvidia-settings do anything
[01:52] <runlevelten> Anti-aliasing ftw :)
[01:54] <adenicio> help!everytime i leave feity on to go sleep when i get up the system goes bad by saying:config could not be save ...read only.when i restart the syst i have to run sfck
[01:55] <Indo_man> Hi all, I am kubuntu user, How i can get adept manager ???
[01:55] <adenicio> Indo_man:
[01:55] <Indo_man> adenicioL can u help me
[01:56] <adenicio> Indo_man: isnt it there allready?
[01:56] <Ragol> should be, at least
[01:56] <prudvi> when i run adept it saying it may damage and says installation complete nothing insitaled
[01:57] <Indo_man> adenicio: No it isn't. I was installed kde 3.4.0
[01:57] <utnubuk> how hard is it to crack a .zip password??
[01:57] <Bauldrick> indo_man: are you running gutsy?
[01:57] <utnubuk> this probably isnt the place to ask..... :/
[01:58] <adenicio> Indo_man: not realy but the firts time i install kubuntu i ask the same question for adept maneger they told me its in the system
[01:58] <adenicio> Indo_man: lol 3.0?will there u will hav to ask around
[02:02] <Indo_man> adenico: I don't get u
[02:03] <runlevelten> Right, where were we?
[02:03] <runlevelten> Sorry, someone was just ill.
[02:03] <yanchao> and ?
[02:03] <trekdanne> utnubuk: depends on the algorithm used
[02:04] <runlevelten> Indo_man: Did you enable the multiverse repo yet?
[02:06] <Indo_man> runlevelten: I guess not, How do I enable it ?
[02:07] <runlevelten> !multiverse
[02:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:07] <nomad111> is there a way to get the mac style menubar on the top edge of my screen
[02:07] <runlevelten> ^
[02:07] <runlevelten> nomad111: yes, that's what I have:
[02:07] <nomad111> can you point me to a guide please?
[02:08] <Theory> right click on desktop->configure desktop, behaviour
[02:08] <runlevelten> alt f2 and type kcontrol  Desktop  Behaviour  and check Menu Bar to application menu at the top of the screen
[02:08] <runlevelten> and enjoy xD
[02:09] <runlevelten> nomad111: ^
[02:09] <adenicio> runlevelten: i install doscan but how do i use it?
[02:10] <nomad111> runlevelten: do you use firefox?
[02:11] <runlevelten> adenicio: To find out how to use a command, read its documentation and help
[02:11] <Lopin> Anyone know why the net installer is sticking at 6% when it goes to get the Kubuntu desktop environment?
[02:11] <Lopin> It just says please wait...
[02:11] <runlevelten> man <command>, info <command>, <command --help, website manual, etc.
[02:11] <runlevelten> nomad111: doesn't integrate, being ff :\
[02:11] <Lopin> It's been doing it for like an hour and a half...
[02:12] <nomad111> i see
[02:12] <nomad111> oh well
[02:12] <nomad111> no big deal
[02:12] <runlevelten> I use konqueror and kmail tbh.
[02:13] <runlevelten> If you're a Mac knower, you'll enjoy the better integration and nicer fonts anyway, and there's always ff for quirky pages xD
[02:14] <adenicio> !xine
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <Lopin> !netinstall
[02:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:16] <aureole> I am wondering how to use my removable harddisk under Kubuntu. When I connected my USB removable harddisk to my laptop, Kubuntu asked me what to do for each logical partition, but no folder  create under the folder /media.
[02:17] <aureole> I found my harddisk working well under Ubuntu.
[02:17] <allanc> what voice recording app can you recommend?
[02:22] <Konc> Hey
[02:23] <Angelus> hello , somebody knows a good web developing program? like Dreamweaver
[02:31] <prxq> Hi. My desktop manager (where the multiple desktops are shown) has disappeared (Dapper). Any ideas how to bring it back?
[02:31] <Ragol> hmm... you mean pager?
[02:32] <Ragol> the little "program" that sits inside the taskbar and shows your desktops?
[02:32] <prxq> that is very likely what I mean, yes :-)
[02:32] <prxq> yes, that's the one
[02:33] <prxq> it is gone, and I've found no option to turn it on again.
[02:33] <Ragol> prxq: what if you click the panel with the right button of your mouse -> add applet to panel -> taskbar
[02:33] <Ragol> oh, sorry
[02:33] <Ragol> it's not taskbar
[02:33] <Ragol> :)
[02:34] <Ragol> try pager ;)
[02:34] <Ragol> 'desktop preview & pager' it is at least in 7.04
[02:34] <prxq> that did it. Thanks!
[02:34] <Ragol> np
[02:34] <prxq> part of the problem was that i didn't know what it was called :-)
[02:35] <Ragol> yep, that's quite often the main problem :)
[02:36] <allanc_> what's the GDebi alternative for KDE?
[02:37] <ksivaji> hi
[02:41] <runlevelten> gdebi?
[02:43] <zipper> I dont understand. On a fresh windows xp SP2 installation i get ping ~40-50 to a server but in linux i have 25-30. The only explaination i can come up with, is spyware in windows sucking up the bandwidth cus' the ping shouldn't be affected (much) by your OS right? I mean congestion control and the likes must be more important
[02:45] <Lunar_Lamp> zipper, it's more likely that the networking stack in linux is superior to that in XP :-)
[02:45] <Lunar_Lamp> (or, depending how much you've tested it, it could just be natural fluctuations)
[02:45] <zipper> Lunar_Lamp, i would wish to think the same, but that cant really be true?
[02:45] <zipper> havent tested it _that_ much, just noticed it over a few months
[02:45] <Lunar_Lamp> zipper, why not?
[02:46] <prudvi> how to use beryl
[02:46] <runlevelten> ping != bandwidth. Not at all.
[02:46] <prudvi> i installed it using add/remove packages
[02:46] <mauricio> hi everybody
[02:46] <zipper> yeah i know that runlevelten
[02:46] <prudvi> now its not running
[02:46] <mauricio> i started aTopic on the web, please, help me http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085617.0
[02:46] <zipper> Lunar_Lamp, i can easily believe the linux has a better networking stack, but that shouldn't really affect ping that much? I mean cmon, you can only do so much from your own pc. Most must be up to routers/ISP's
[02:47] <prudvi> any help for me
[02:47] <runlevelten> latency can be affected by what's going on on your system.
[02:47] <runlevelten> Windows XP SP2 is a tower of stuff going on.
[02:47] <runlevelten> heh
[02:48] <zipper> runlevelten, ofcourse, but zealot'ing aside, i have a hard time thinking windows is unable to handle ping requests
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[02:48] <Lunar_Lamp> prudvi, #ubuntu-effects
[02:48] <zipper> as well as linux that is
[02:48] <prudvi> ok
[02:48] <runlevelten> Who was zealoting?
[02:48] <zipper> noone
[02:48] <runlevelten> Jesus.
[02:49] <zipper> =/
[02:49] <zipper> no reason to get upset, just a friendly discussion
[02:50] <runlevelten> Have you checked that you have consistent MTU settings on each system, etc.?
[02:51] <zipper> The only MTU setting i know of is in my router, so that should be the same. (Same pc, just different OS)
[02:53] <runlevelten> Well it's unlikely to be the cause, but the connection between your machine and your router will have an mtu size, and if that's significantly different it can mean things getting truncated, etc.
[02:54] <runlevelten> Which with some of the crappier hardware slows things down to a crawl. Like I said, doubtful it's your problem, but for future reference.
[02:55] <zipper> I see. Well, its not really a problem i just wondered how it could be possible
[02:55] <runlevelten> Also, try switching off stuff like packet filtering on your windows machine if you're experiencing a latency hike, as you're probably not running one on kubuntu unless you have
[02:55] <runlevelten> services to protect.
[02:55] <runlevelten> and that, or other background services could be the issue.
[02:57] <zipper> Packet filtering as in QoS? Think thats automaticly installed on winxp sp2 these days
[02:57] <leus> how do i install a theme in my kubuntu
[02:58] <runlevelten> I was actually thinking more of the firewall. You can disable stuff that's installed. :)
[02:59] <ksivaji> runlevelten hi
[02:59] <zicero> hi all .. im trying hard to get kubuntu 7.04 up and running on my system ... im having big trouble getting 3d accel up and running .. i use a nvidia gf 7300 le .. i tried several howtos on the net, repository drivers and the nvidia.com driver, did the installer, installer compiled kernel interface (whatever that is) - i keep getting black screen with "API mismatch ..." errors - can anyone give me a hint WHERE i can find information/help on this ?
[02:59] <trekdanne> !nvidia
[02:59] <runlevelten> hi ksivaji :)
[02:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <trekdanne> or maybe you have already had a look at that site?
[03:00] <mauricio> hello, i started a topic on http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085617.0 , please help me
[03:00] <runlevelten> follow the steps meticulously.
[03:00] <zicero> trekdanne: thank you hopefully it doesnt take me to some "use the gnome system admin" or sth .. im not sure .. by now i feel i tried all actually i had like 5 attempts
[03:00] <zicero> ok i will thank you
[03:00] <zicero> ah ok it starts right with : System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager.
[03:01] <zicero> where is that in kde ?!
[03:01] <runlevelten> I do alt f2 restricted-manager
[03:01] <runlevelten> alt+f2 and type restricted-manager
[03:02] <zicero> "could not run the specified command"
[03:02] <runlevelten> You can install it using adept if it doesn't exist.
[03:02] <zicero> ok
[03:02] <mauricio> hello, i started a topic on http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085617.0 , please help me
[03:03] <trekdanne> mauricio: hmm strange problem
[03:03] <mauricio> yeap
[03:03] <trekdanne> so basically you must go the console and then back to kdm to get it working?
[03:03] <zicero> i feel SO (!) stupid not being able to get gfx board ready .. worst is all these windows ppl around here in the office passing by seeing black screen here and go "hee hee" :/
[03:03] <mauricio> trekdanne: what do u think?
[03:04] <mauricio> trekdanne: that is all i got to do :)
[03:04] <mauricio> i have to do :(
[03:05] <trekdanne> have you tried to reset your xorg.conf with nvidia-settings? or do you have a lot of custom stuff there?
[03:05] <mauricio> trekdanne: did u read the errors report?
[03:05] <trekdanne> error report?
[03:06] <trekdanne> did you post a X output?
[03:06] <mauricio> trekdanne: i have not tried to use nvidia-settings to do that, is it good, i could do it
[03:07] <mauricio> here is also an error report of my xorg.0.log: hello, i started a topic on http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085617.0 , please help me
[03:07] <mauricio> trekdanne: at the end of the topic
[03:07] <mauricio> the last reply i did trekdanne
[03:08] <trekdanne> ah i see
[03:08] <mauricio> :)
[03:08] <mauricio> i cannot see it clearlly, but something is wrong with nvidia, what u think?
[03:09] <trekdanne> yea probably
[03:10] <trekdanne> i don't know really...
[03:10] <Daxana> Hi..All, I need asisstance. I could not find adept manager in Kubuntu
[03:11] <whizadree> anyone got time to look into some scripts to see if there is any malicious code?
[03:12] <trekdanne> mauricio: if you used restricted-manager to set up your xorg.conf, there shouldn't be any problems there either
[03:12] <mauricio> trekdanne: that is what i think, so, what is the problem?
[03:14] <zicero> my restricted manager (i had to install) does not work via alt-f2 (it says sth about gksu not found) and running it in console ends up with "your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"
[03:14] <trekdanne> hmm what about this "wfb" module?
[03:14] <mauricio> hello, i started a topic on http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085617.0 , please help me
[03:14] <Assid> heya
[03:15] <mauricio> trekdanne: i do not know what is wfb
[03:15] <mauricio> trekdanne: i can see it on my xorg.0.log
[03:15] <trekdanne> mauricio: i think it has something to do with the nvidia driver
[03:16] <mauricio> yeah trekdanne, i seems like wfb begins the problem
[03:16] <mauricio> it seems
[03:16] <Daxana> How do I installed adept manager step by step
[03:16] <trekdanne> hmm look if you have an libwfb.so in /usr/lib/xorg/modules
[03:16] <mauricio> ?
[03:17] <Assid> dammit.. is there any way to make the arial font look good on X ?
[03:17] <mauricio> trekdanne: i am gonna looking for wfb on the web too
[03:17] <Assid> it looks just crappy on this
[03:18] <mauricio> Assid: maybe antialliasing
[03:20] <runlevelten> looks beautiful on mine. You got antialiasing and everything enabled in kde and ff etc?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[03:22] <Assid> runlevelten:  yes
[03:23] <Assid> not sure about ff tho.. how do i check anti aliasing in ff
[03:23] <Assid> i enabled it at the nvidia-settings
[03:23] <ksivaji> "sudo apt-get install packagename " will download  a .deb  file and install it  my question is where that .deb file  will be stored
[03:24] <llutz> ksivaji:  /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:24] <genii> ksivaji: in /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:24] <BluesKaj>  /home/username/  usually, ksivaji
[03:24] <llutz> BluesKaj: never
[03:25] <BluesKaj> downloads ?
[03:25] <llutz> BluesKaj: read his question again,plz :)
[03:25] <trekdanne> mauricio: hmm maybe you should try running nvidia-settings, maybe you're loading something you shouldn't in the "modules" section
[03:26] <mauricio> trekdanne: i do run nvidia-settings, i use it, i use to do that
[03:26] <mauricio> and everything is good
[03:28] <Assid> runlevelten: care to screenshot google ?
[03:28] <trekdanne> and you're pressing the save to xorg.conf button?
[03:28] <BluesKaj> hehe, thx genii :)...looks like i may need it today ...t-storms kept us awake here last nite
[03:28] <Daxana> hello
[03:29] <genii> BluesKaj: I didn't sleep too great here either... humidity and firetrucks all night
[03:29] <trekdanne> mauricio: it didn't look like a nvidia-settings file to me :)
[03:29] <BluesKaj> bummer genii :(
[03:30] <mauricio> ?
[03:30] <mauricio> hehe
[03:30] <mauricio> i dont get it trekdanne
[03:30] <runlevelten> sorry assid?
[03:30] <runlevelten> wot, see a screenshot of gd?
[03:31] <runlevelten> yeh,  go on then, thanks xD
[03:31] <genii> BluesKaj: I'll just increase my coffee input LOL
[03:31] <runlevelten> ooooh, you mean arial.
[03:31] <runlevelten> !freetype2
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freetype2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <runlevelten> !freetype
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <trekdanne> mauricio: hmm try running nvidia-xconfig and restart X
[03:34] <mauricio> yes
[03:34] <mauricio> i will trekdanne
[03:34] <mauricio> thnks!
[03:35] <runlevelten> !restricted
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:36] <Assid> runlevelten:  any luck on my font ?
[03:36] <Assid> runlevelten: err. hoild on.. major issue with the server..
[03:37] <Assid> runlevelten: know anything of quotas?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> genii...i have an old motorola 8420 VME server that a friend who was cut from Nortel in the middle of his career, but who now runs his own consrtuction outfit. Wondering if you know anything about them ... pretty old technology , 10yrs old I think.
[03:39] <trekdanne> Assid: sudo apt-get install quota
[03:39] <Assid> trekdanne: i have it running
[03:39] <RytmenPinnen> is there a way to change the DPI on the mouse? and what does pointer threshold do
[03:39] <Assid> but the user i gave the quota to, has used all the block limit
[03:39] <trekdanne> assid: ok sorry
[03:40] <Assid> however .. i dont see 10MB within his home directory..
[03:40] <trekdanne> assid: ?? can you rephrase that
[03:40] <genii> BluesKaj: That one i dunno :(
[03:40] <BluesKaj> ok
[03:40] <Assid> ive set the quotas as quotatool -v -b -q 10MB -l 10MB -u user <dev>
[03:40] <Assid> however..  the user has not used the allocated 10mb .. as is maxing out
[03:41] <BluesKaj> genii, think i'll donate it to the local high school , they might be interested
[03:42] <CyD> what's the proper way to get mp3 encoding in k3b? i'm using the medibuntu packages, libk3b2-mp3, lame, and mad are installed, but don't help. some getdeb packages suggested in the forums work, but break dvd ripping. any thoughts?
[03:42] <genii> BluesKaj: There used to be a place that would take pretty much anything...computer museum i think. Long time tho since i visited their site. the guy used to restore them etc
[03:43] <BluesKaj> oh yeah ?.. I'll check it out
[03:43] <RytmenPinnen> ok I just figured out what pointer threshold does, but I still dont know if its possible to change the mouse response
[03:44] <Assid> trekdanne: any clue?
[03:44] <trekdanne> Assid: hmm actually, no
[03:45] <BluesKaj> genii , this guy at York U ?
[03:45] <genii> BluesKaj: I'm looking up his site now :)
[03:46] <Assid> for some strange reason.. there are files of that user in /proc
[03:50] <genii> BluesKaj: No this guy is in the states someplace. tho google did also yank up a computer museum link having to do with York as well
[03:51] <BluesKaj> yeah genii , looks like the guy aYork U wants a solid chain of custody ownership documentation , afraid that's practically impossible :)
[03:51] <heeven2> where can i put firefox as default browser? i dont like conqueror
[03:52] <genii> BluesKaj: The one i was thinking of: http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/    the york one: http://www.cse.yorku.ca/museum/
[03:52] <vbgunz> anyone else here experiencing a lot of crashes coming from ktorrent?
[03:52] <Assid> heeven: kcontrol > kde components > default application
[03:52] <BluesKaj> heeven2:  sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser , then choose the number beside the browser
[03:52] <genii> BluesKaj: There looks to be one in Brantford too
[03:53] <BluesKaj> yeah genii, saw that
[03:53] <genii> BluesKaj: It seems to be more Personal Computer centric than servers etc
[03:53] <vbgunz> ktorrent crashes on me more than anything else combined. ktorrent crashed on me more in a month than everything thing else combined in a year and a half :/
[03:53] <heeven2> BluesKaj: thanks!
[03:54] <vbgunz> I really like ktorrent. it ships with kubuntu, it works when it works but it crashes far too much. is it crashing on anyone else that uses it?
[03:55] <RytmenPinnen> Does anyone know if it is possible to change mouse DPI somehow? :o
[03:55] <BluesKaj> yeah genii, think i'll just get rid of it locally ...it's a monster,... on casters etc
[03:55] <BluesKaj> vbgunz: running feisty ?
[03:56] <vbgunz> yes
[03:56] <BluesKaj> well, vbgunz have you done the purge remove and reinstall cycle , sometimes that works
[03:57] <BluesKaj> or there's always azureus
[03:57] <vbgunz> feisty is pretty solid, and fast. as fast and solid as it has ever been from upgrading over edgy. ktorrent is my only problematic app
[03:58] <heeven2> choose another one :p
[03:58] <vbgunz> I like ktorrent :(
[03:58] <BluesKaj> vbgunz: try to purge it in adept , then re install
[03:58] <evri2> is there a program that connects gnutella or sth like that?
[03:59] <vbgunz> was hoping someone knew if the crashes were common and was being addressed or something
[03:59] <BluesKaj> ktorrent rovks , sgreed
[03:59] <BluesKaj> rocks
[03:59] <BluesKaj> agreed :)
[03:59] <evri2> gift+apollon don't connect and i don't see any port confugration anywhere
[03:59] <vbgunz> am downloading something now. when it is done, I'll try purging with dpkg
[04:00] <BluesKaj> vbgunz: yes when edgy was first released i had a the same prob, not with feisty tho
[04:02] <vbgunz> I pretty much upgraded from Drake -> Edgy -> Feisty... I am flabbergasted, the system is faster, more responsive and more stable than ever. I am very happy. ktorrent just upsets it. I don't even think it is going to crash anymore. I know it.
[04:05] <wolferine> if I cannot open a display using vncviewer (I am sshing into the box, and running vncveiwer localhost), what service is not running (I checked that X is running
[04:10] <Assid> hrmm anyone understand how quotas work exactly?
[04:10] <Assid> how do the blocks relate to the usage ?
[04:11] <Assid> cause it by no means is accurate
[04:14] <RytmenPinnen> vbgunz this may be a stupidly obvious qustion but do you run the latest Ktorrent version? :P cause I have no problem with it crashing ... best torrent app so far
[04:14] <vbgunz> RytmenPinnen: 2.1
[04:14] <vbgunz> I use what comes shipped with Feisty
[04:15] <RytmenPinnen> ah,
[04:15] <RytmenPinnen> strange cause it never crashes for me :S
[04:15] <vbgunz> I'll try purging it later. I don't want to mess up a download I have going
[04:16] <RytmenPinnen> btw, I'm gonna ask one more time: Does anyone know how to change mouse DPI? back when I ran win and change it from 100 to 200(or something) I remembered everything becoming alot more smooth, specially games
[04:16] <RytmenPinnen> aaah yes do that
[04:17] <RytmenPinnen> but watch out for the RIAA ;P
[04:17] <vbgunz> :)
[04:20] <BluesKaj> RytmenPinnen: maybe a gamerz chat might know :)
[04:20] <RytmenPinnen> um where? :D
[04:21] <RytmenPinnen> a linux gaming chat, hmm..
[04:22] <genii> RytmenPinnen: I found this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=425552
[04:22] <BluesKaj> dunno, not a gamer, but it seems to me as a former researcher that a chat where gamers hang out would know more about mouse DPI thamn the likes of us :)
[04:22] <Angelus> wow
[04:22] <Angelus> a chat for gamers
[04:22] <Angelus> on linux
[04:22] <Angelus> :|
[04:22] <genii> RytmenPinnen: Post #6 has an xorg.conf entry for mouse resolution in it
[04:23] <RytmenPinnen> ahaa
[04:24] <BluesKaj> Angelus:  gotta be one , from the number of game questions I've seen
[04:24] <Angelus> oh yeah
[04:24] <Angelus> i had big problems on games
[04:24] <Angelus> remember BluesKaj
[04:24] <Angelus> ?
[04:25] <Angelus> when you where helping me trying to get 3D accel working?
[04:25] <Angelus> :p
[04:25] <genii> www.linux-gamers.net
[04:25] <BluesKaj> oh yeah, silentg
[04:25] <Angelus> hehe
[04:25] <genii> They have on freenode a channel
[04:26] <genii> #linux-gamers.net
[04:26] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, I'm kinda scared editing the xorg.conf :P last time I did the system completely messed up ^^
[04:26] <Angelus> if it messes up re-configure it
[04:26] <Angelus> ;p
[04:27] <genii> RytmenPinnen: Make a backup first then, by:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[04:27] <RytmenPinnen> yeah, and then to back up I do the opposite
[04:27] <genii> RytmenPinnen: Yup
[04:28] <Angelus> then , if something is messed up, ALT + CTRL + F1 to change to console , loging , "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <runlevelten> I game on Linux a lot.
[04:28] <Angelus> i dont
[04:28] <runlevelten> Evidently not.
[04:28] <Angelus> since i dont have 3D accell
[04:28] <Angelus> so i dual boot
[04:28] <handy> hi everybody
[04:28] <Angelus> and play on windblows
[04:29] <RytmenPinnen> I do :P, well I run steam :P and eventually I'll get  et:qw if its good
[04:29] <handy> somebody from italy in there?
[04:29] <BluesKaj> RytmenPinnen:  copy your existing xorg file into a text and send to yourself on your web mail acct like gmail or yahoo or whatever , so you can recopy the text if need be.
[04:29] <runlevelten> !it
[04:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:29] <handy> !it
[04:29] <Angelus> io so parlare in italiano
[04:30] <RytmenPinnen> BluesKaj its easier to just back it up :)
[04:30] <Angelus> haha
[04:30] <BluesKaj> RytmenPinnen:  of course , but one should always have redundancy
[04:31] <RytmenPinnen> one thing bugs me tho, I dont have the "resulotion" option in my xorg
[04:31] <Angelus> O_o
[04:31] <BluesKaj> somewhere other than one's system
[04:31] <RytmenPinnen> just add it?
[04:32] <genii> RytmenPinnen: There are tons of options that they don't put samples in the xorg.conf for. If you don't have a resolution line, just add it in the appropriate place
[04:32] <BluesKaj> Angelus: ATI graphics?
[04:32] <Daxana> Hi all, I download mozilla browser to desktop, how do I install it ?
[04:32] <Angelus> Angelus, me?
[04:32] <Angelus> no
[04:32] <Angelus> via Chipset
[04:32] <RytmenPinnen> ah ok, here goes
[04:32] <Angelus> i have an ATI too
[04:32] <Angelus> but not plugged in at the moment
[04:32] <Angelus> since its old and there's no driver for it on linux
[04:33] <genii> Daxana: Wouldn't it be much easier just to install it from the package manager?
[04:34] <BluesKaj> Angelus: bookmark this site for future reference if you decide to try the ati again : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[04:34] <Daxana> I am new user, Could you show me how ? thanks
[04:34] <Daxana> Genii: could you show me how ?
[04:34] <Angelus> what is it about BluesKaj ?
[04:35] <Angelus> ah yeah
[04:35] <Angelus> you had showed me that
[04:35] <BluesKaj> it works
[04:35] <Angelus> but still it didnt work great
[04:35] <Angelus> :S
[04:35] <Angelus> still couldn't play Warcraft 3
[04:36] <Bauldrick> (n=dasana@125.160.217.194).
[04:36] <Bauldrick> [15:31]  <BluesKaj> RytmenPinnen:  of course , but one should always have redundancy
[04:36] <Bauldrick> [15:31]  <RytmenPinnen> one thing bugs me tho, I dont have the "resulotion" option in my xorg
[04:36] <Bauldrick> [15:31]  --> boom1992 has joined this channel (n=lukas@pD9E1AA5A.dip.t-dialin.net).
[04:36] <Bauldrick> [15:31]  <Angelus> O_o
[04:36] <Bauldrick> [15:32]  <BluesKaj> somewhere other than one's
[04:36] <RytmenPinnen> what?
[04:36] <Angelus> :|
[04:36] <jmancine> hello
[04:37] <BluesKaj> there is one one mistake there tho, where it says to :Option  "Composite" "Disable" in the xorg file , it should rerad "0" (zero) instead of disable ...it makes all the difference in my setup
[04:37] <Angelus> BluesKaj, the thing is that ATI didnt get out a driver for my card
[04:37] <genii> Daxana: for clarification...did you mean mozilla firefox browser ?
[04:37] <Angelus> they have for 7100, but not for 7000/VE
[04:37] <BluesKaj> Angelus: bummer :(
[04:38] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, the mouse works
[04:38] <BluesKaj> one would think they are the same
[04:38] <RytmenPinnen> <- fires up steam, todo \o
[04:38] <Daxana> genii: yes, correct
[04:38] <jmancine> what is the equivalent to task manager in linux? anyone
[04:38] <Angelus> they only have the driver for windows XP for the 7000
[04:38] <Angelus> no other operating system
[04:38] <Angelus> they should get shot for that!
[04:39] <genii> Daxana: Then K button.. System ...Synaptic Package Manager is where to install it from.
[04:40] <BluesKaj> jmancine: Kcron ...dunno if it's a manager ..scheduler
[04:40] <Daxana> my kubuntu doesn't have adept manager, some how...?
[04:42] <genii> Daxana: OK, then from a console or terminal:   sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:42] <genii> Daxana: It will ask for a password, put your usual one in
[04:42] <genii> Daxana: Actually, first you may want to do:   sudo apt-get update
[04:43] <jmancine> thanks ,blue
[04:43] <Daxana> genii:how do i know that package is on my KDE ?
[04:44] <prxq> any ideas why mplayer won't detect alsa support? (kubuntu dapper)
[04:45] <genii> Daxana: If you want to query packages for a certain name or part of name, you can do:   apt-cache search <name> | more      where <name> could be firefox   or whatever other kind of app name
[04:45] <_Shade_> hi
[04:45] <jmancine> what program tells you what programs are running in the background?
[04:46] <_Shade_> i got "core dumped (segmentation fault)" error message when running some applications
[04:46] <llutz> jmancine: ps -e, ps aux   will show you all
[04:46] <jmancine> thanks
[04:47] <Daxana> genii: i found it. "mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb - Mozilla firefox english language/region package
[04:47] <greywolf> hello
[04:47] <genii> Daxana: That is only the localisation part of it. you still need the core piece
[04:48] <Daxana> genii:How do I make command than
[04:48] <genii> Daxana:    sudo apt-get install firefox         same as i said earlier :)
[04:49] <genii> Daxana:   Then after the initial packages are in you can install the localisation
[04:49] <Daxana> genii: i have message : e: could not find package firefox, pls help
[04:50] <greywolf> I've been having a horrible time with compiling from source as far as package dependencies go - right now I'm trying to compile Kino 1.1.1 from source (mostly because v.9 doesn't quite cut it ;]  ), and it keeps trying to tell me that I don't have the package "libdv," when I actually do - it's just that it's called "libdv4" in the package manager
[04:50] <genii> Daxana: Put then mozilla-firefox   instead of just firefox
[04:51] <greywolf> so I downloaded the original libdv source to compile that, and it tells me that it can't find "xvlib," so I check in adept, and it says I have "xvlib1"
[04:51] <Daxana> genii: I have same message
[04:51] <genii> Daxana: Do first:   sudo apt-get update
[04:52] <Wastl_de> Hi there, I liked to take a preview to kde4 and got some trouble. is there anywhere a channel which is specialisized?
[04:52] <BluesKaj> greywolf: it could be the .bin file like libdv-bin
[04:52] <greywolf> does anyone have any ideas as to how I can get fix it or around this ?
[04:52] <greywolf> BluesKaj: ok I'll try that
[04:52] <Daxana> genii: same, is it possible because package was not inappropriate directory ?
[04:54] <BluesKaj> genii:  what about Daxana's sources.list ?..it may need some uncommenting or additional sources
[04:54] <genii> Daxana: No. the update command should not tell you there is some missing package. What did it say when you put:    sudo apt-get update
[04:54] <genii> BluesKaj: Yes that is my next tactic :)
[04:54] <greywolf> BluesKaj: no such luck :(
[04:55] <greywolf> BluesKaj: it still thinks "libdv" is missing
[04:55] <Daxana> genii : It said "reading package done"
[04:55] <Daxana> genii : and next line : E:Couldn't find package Mozilla
[04:55] <BluesKaj> greywolf: one of the probs with games on linux , "dependency hell" :(
[04:56] <greywolf> BluesKaj: one of the only problems with linux ;)
[04:56] <dhq> how do i check if i have any firewall running
[04:56] <genii> Daxana: do not use uppercase etc. also there is no package called just Mozilla. Use exactly:     sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:56] <BluesKaj> glad you feel that way about linux, greywolf :)
[04:57] <greywolf> heh
[04:57] <greywolf> BluesKaj: so is there any way to edit the configure files so that it looks for "libdv4" and not "libdv"?
[04:58] <Pazy> BluesKaj: Are you here 24/7? lol
[04:59] <BluesKaj> sometimes i just leave the chat open and i do other stuff Pazy ...I am retired , so I come and go as I please :)
[05:00] <jl> hola esto rula?
[05:01] <BluesKaj> greywolf: you could try but maybe the pkg was written to run a previous version of libdv4 which is libdv and they could be different
[05:01] <greywolf> hrm
[05:01] <onesnzeros> pshh
[05:01] <onesnzeros> aloha
[05:02] <greywolf> BluesKaj: ok I guess I'll just have to try and install all the dependencies from source
[05:02] <onesnzeros> why the channel name is kubuntu
[05:02] <greywolf> BluesKaj: it'll give me good practice anyway :P
[05:02] <jl> where is in spanish? i new
[05:02] <BluesKaj> greywolf:  :)
[05:02] <onesnzeros> no spanish bro
[05:02] <onesnzeros> haha
[05:02] <BluesKaj> !es
[05:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:02] <onesnzeros> just kidding, iam new too
[05:02] <jl> gracias
[05:02] <genii> Daxana: Did it give you some other error now, or progress to installing the browser?
[05:03] <onesnzeros> is kubuntu or ubuntu.. which is better
[05:03] <onesnzeros> iam on ubuntu right noew
[05:03] <greywolf> onesnzeros: you mean KDE or Gnome?
[05:04] <onesnzeros> ubuntu is gnome?
[05:04] <greywolf> vanilla ubuntu uses gnome
[05:04] <onesnzeros> i think i like gnome,
[05:04] <greywolf> kubuntu uses KDE
[05:04] <onesnzeros> uhh
[05:04] <BluesKaj> onesnzeros: kubuntu help , mainly for ppl who use the kde desktop on ubuntu as opposed to #ubuntu where ppl use the gnome desktop
[05:04] <onesnzeros> ubuntu is good then
[05:04] <onesnzeros> i liked sabayon gnome version
[05:06] <CyD> what's the proper way to get mp3 encoding in k3b? i'm using the medibuntu packages, libk3b2-mp3, lame, and mad are installed, but don't help. some getdeb packages suggested in the forums work, but break dvd ripping. any thoughts?
[05:07] <Pazy> For the sake of it I tried setting up my printer on Linux. And I also had to for Vista (mum wanted to print pictures of the dogs :D). Took me hour and half on Vista cause they made me download 170mb driver plus software ill never use then I had to set the thing up. On Linux it took me five minutes. I already had the software (HPLIP) so I connected and done a test page. Suprising.
[05:18] <BluesKaj> !extra-codecs
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extra-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <BluesKaj> CyD: got libdvdcss2 installed ?
[05:19] <CyD> BluesKaj, yea
[05:19] <CyD> dvd playback works fine
[05:19] <CyD> thanks for the reply :)
[05:20] <BluesKaj> what dvd ripper ?
[05:20] <Daxana> genii: still have message : E: mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[05:20] <CyD> BluesKaj, dvd ripping in k3b breaks if I use 3rd party packages from 'getdeb'. but those packages are the only way I've found to get mp3 encoding to work
[05:21] <BluesKaj> CyD:  for dvd copying try k9copy or acidrip
[05:21] <CyD> I can't get mp3 encoding in default kubuntu feisty and medibuntu packages.
[05:21] <CyD> BluesKaj, agreed, those programs are an option.
[05:22] <BluesKaj> libxine-extracodecs?
[05:22] <CyD> BluesKaj, that gives me mp3 playback in amarok as expected,
[05:22] <CyD> but no help for k3b
[05:22] <CyD> also have mad and lame installed, and libk3b2-mp3 for mp3 decoding
[05:22] <CyD> but encoding continues to be a pain :(
[05:23] <BluesKaj> sounds like K3B is broken somehow ...libk3b2-mp3 should work
[05:23] <genii> Daxana: I suspect that you need to comment out a line about the cdrom in your /etc/apt/sources.list   file. But at the moment i am being called away from computer for work too often to properly assist you.
[05:24] <CyD> the getdeb packages are also not fully featured imo. in gentoo, mad is used in k3b for encoding, and provides a user friendly config. in kubuntu + 3rd party packages, the old lame config dialog is presented
[05:24] <CyD> BluesKaj, agreed, I wonder if it would be necessary to open a bug report. perhaps I should search bugs first
[05:24] <genii> If someone can, please assist Daxana , I am AFK for work, likely extended
[05:24] <BluesKaj> maybe the 3rd parties are interfering
[05:24] <CyD> the best forum post I've found only partially solves the problem
[05:25] <CyD> BluesKaj, agreed, so on the newest machine I've installed and testing, I haven't used the 3rd party packages
[05:25] <BluesKaj> CyD: whay bother , the reported bugs seldom get fixed
[05:25] <CyD> BluesKaj, ah. I'm fairly new to (k)ubuntu, been on gentoo for many years
[05:25] <Daxana> genii:thanks for ur asisstance
[05:25] <CyD> but I am now installing as many as 5 kubuntu machines a week
[05:26] <CyD> very few issues left, this is one
[05:26] <CyD> maybe the only one now :)
[05:26] <CyD> nobody really uses the k3b dvd ripping, but it is very full featured in 1.0 and up, and I would like to leave it as an option
[05:27] <CyD> mostly ppl like k9copy and dvdshrink in wine
[05:27] <BluesKaj> Daxana: did genii ask you to post your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin ?
[05:28] <Daxana> bleskaj: No, ..
[05:28] <BluesKaj> yeah CyD, dvdshrink is ok , k9copy is a bit quirky , but I've gotten it to work mostly
[05:29] <BluesKaj> Daxana: did you edit that file yet ?
[05:29] <Daxana> Not yet
[05:32] <BluesKaj> ok Daxana , alt+F2, type or copy and paste from here ' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list ' , then look for lines beginning with #deb..... take out the #. There will prolly be just 2 lines like that.
[05:32] <ksivaji> !aptfix
[05:32] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:35] <Daxana> blueskaj: did u mean I shall delete it (#)
[05:41] <vprints> What is the program called that shows kubuntu logo during boot ?
[05:43] <vprints> usplash ?
[05:43] <pag> vprints, iirc - yes
[05:43] <Daxana> blueskaj:
[05:44] <BluesKaj> yes Daxana, delete the # in front of any lines beginning with deb...they are what is called commented out due to installation egal rerasons
[05:44] <BluesKaj> err legal
[05:44] <genii> Back for a short while :)
[05:44] <BluesKaj> good genii :)
[05:45] <prudvi> i have downloaded a tar.gz file how to install that
[05:46] <Daxana> # deb http://
[05:46] <genii> Daxana:  Also in that same file, near the top may be a line that starts something like: deb cdrom:    it may have a # in front. If there is NOT a # in front of that line, please put one there.
[05:48] <pag> prudvi, .tar.gz is just a compressed package - just like .zip or .rar
[05:48] <prudvi> how to install that
[05:48] <genii> prudvi: It depends upon the contents of the tar.gz file... to extract it, use:   tar -xvzf <filename>.tar.gz       in the directory you put it into
[05:48] <pag> prudvi, probably it's a source code, if that the case please see:
[05:48] <pag> !b-e | prudvi
[05:48] <ubotu> prudvi: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:48] <prudvi> ok
[05:49] <Daxana> Genii :i save it,
[05:49] <BluesKaj> yes Daxana
[05:49] <pag> prudvi, whick programm are you trying to install that way?
[05:49] <ksivaji> i installed apache via adept when i tried to restart apache i got this error "apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: No such file or directory"
[05:49] <prudvi> xampp
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[05:50] <genii> Daxana: Yes, any lines in the file /etc/apt/sources.list   which begin something like: # deb          or like:  # deb-src        remove the # in front EXCEPT for the one which also has cdrom in the line. This is the one which should have the # in front
[05:50] <prudvi> they hav given to use tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.6.3b.tar.gz -C /opt
[05:50] <prudvi> but it says not such file when i  use it
[05:51] <genii> Daxana: If you have made all these changes, then save it, yes. After the save, do again:       sudo apt-get update
[05:51] <pag> prudvi, do you use it in the right directory? is the filename right?
[05:51] <prudvi> file name is right
[05:51] <prudvi> that directory i didnt create
[05:51] <genii> Daxana: Then we can try once more to install the web browser by:   sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:52] <genii> ksivaji: Geez, you still struggling with that apache and apache2 business today ? ;)
[05:52] <Sergiu1> hello all
[05:52] <ksivaji> genii ya
[05:53] <Sergiu1> is there in kubuntu command gconf-editor like in gnome
[05:53] <trekdanne> aaarrggh
[05:53] <trekdanne> simply put, Sergiu1, no, and there will never be
[05:53] <Daxana> genii : Look different when i was requesting get update
[05:54] <Sergiu1> trekdanne: bad.
[05:54] <NickPresta> ksivaji, you still need some help with apache?
[05:54] <Daxana> genii : message :E: couldn't find package firefox, still not working
[05:55] <genii> Daxana: OK, and the update command successfully finished without errors?
[05:55] <ksivaji> NickPresta yes with apache2
[05:55] <NickPresta> ksivaji, okay. have you sorted out which version you're using? you only have apache2 now, correct?
[05:55] <ksivaji> NickPresta ya
[05:55] <genii> Hmm I had this same firefox install issue before when I did from gnome to kde with the kubuntu-desktop install. I forget how it got fixed tho
[05:56] <NickPresta> ksivaji, okay. what problem are you having and what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:57] <ksivaji>  installed apache via adept when i tried to restart apache i got this error "apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: No such file or directory"
[05:58] <NickPresta> ksivaji, you probably need to move your configuration file there. try to locate httpd.conf or apache2.conf. if you can find it elsewhere, just `cp` it to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[05:59] <Daxana> geniee : some line for :Ign http://us.archieve ..main package not found
[05:59] <ksivaji> NickPresta no i removed everything related to apache and installed just before stilll i am getting same error
[06:00] <NickPresta> ksivaji, oh. I would've thought the apache2 package would have included a httpd.conf. which package did you install?
[06:00] <Sergiu1> trekdanne: sorry, but why gconf-editor like command will never be in kde
[06:00] <Sergiu1> )
[06:00] <Sergiu1> it's very easy to administrate some things with it
[06:00] <ksivaji> ya httpd.conf is there but it empty nothing is there
[06:01] <bonesss> hello there
[06:01] <bonesss> i got a problem
[06:01] <NickPresta> ksivaji, oh. well, you can download a vanilla httpd.conf and try that. it should work fine, provided you change the paths
[06:01] <genii> Daxana: try instead then:   sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[06:01] <bonesss> i have installed amsn 0.97rc1
[06:01] <ksivaji> NickPresta from where i can download that ?
[06:02] <genii> !info firefox
[06:02] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.6+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9045 kB, installed size 28668 kB
[06:02] <NickPresta> ksivaji, http://httpd.apache.org/
[06:02] <genii> Should just be "firefox" though
[06:02] <bonesss> but now, when i want install a program by type apt-get
[06:02] <ruggero> #kubuntu
[06:03] <Daxana> genio:it said that package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[06:03] <bonesss> i receive a dependency error
[06:03] <NickPresta> bonesss, try: `sudo apt-get -f install`
[06:04] <Daxana> it seem that for web address :http://us.archieve and other web is not found
[06:04] <genii> NickPresta: apache2 uses only a blank dummy httpd.conf file. What used to be that file in apache1 series is now in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[06:04] <bonesss> NickPresta: so, i do it... but it reinstall amsn 0.96
[06:05] <NickPresta> genii, oh. Well, a vanilla httpd.conf should still work fine, right?
[06:06] <bonesss> NickPresta: now it's telling get go uninstall amsn
[06:06] <NickPresta> bonesss, well, if you have a dependency issue, it's best to resolve that first, then worry about amsn after
[06:06] <trekdanne> Sergiu1: that would probably be just a KDE vs GNOME flame war
[06:06] <genii> Daxana: When you do:   apt-cache search firefox| grep browser      does it show a line: firefox - lightweight web browser based on Mozilla                   ?
[06:07] <genii> ksivaji: What is your original error message  or issue again?
[06:09] <bonesss> NickPresta: but the dependencies are of amsn
[06:09] <Bauldrick> Talking of amsn, does anyone know how to use a camcorder with it - or just in kubuntu in general ( KINO )
[06:09] <bonesss> i did go to the packages.ubuntu.com website
[06:09] <bonesss> and downloaded the amsn and his respective dependencies
[06:10] <bonesss> after i've installed
[06:10] <Daxana> genii: strange, now file not found
[06:10] <NickPresta> bonesss, oh. where are you getting amsn from?
[06:10] <bonesss> NickPresta: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <genii> Daxana: Do you know how to use the pastebin website? It may be informative to paste the entire contents of your file /etc/apt/sources.list    for examination there
[06:11] <ksivaji> genii apache2: Syntax error on line 189 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 204 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache/modules.conf: No such file or directory
[06:12] <Daxana> genii: No, I don't sorry....
[06:12] <genii> ksivaji: Right. there is the problem. some legacy line in there referrring to apache1.X module directory. Edit it to read apache2 instead of apache or comment it out entirely
[06:13] <ksivaji> ok
[06:13] <genii> !pastebin | Daxana
[06:13] <ubotu> Daxana: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:14] <genii> Daxana: so open the file by:     kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list     then hightlight the text. right-click on mouse, select copy. then on website paste it to the window. after, report back here the URL it gives you
[06:15] <boris_> does anyone knows
[06:16] <boris_> howto use multisseson disk wich  hes been burned on nero
[06:16] <boris_> to use on k3b
[06:16] <boris_> because
[06:16] <boris_> . This character set is based on the ISO9660 settings in the K3b project. K3b is not able to display these converted filenames yet.
[06:16] <boris_> character error
[06:17] <boris_> anyone
[06:18] <genii> boris_: The message it gives seems pretty explanatory. It doesn't say you need some package in to work. It says "k3b is not able to display these converted filenames yet"
[06:19] <Daxana> genii: Ok, I post it. And How about correction feedback ?
[06:19] <Level15> hey
[06:19] <boris_> ok
[06:20] <boris_> but i touth
[06:20] <boris_> may beeeeee
[06:20] <genii> Daxana: Well, I need the URL your paste ended up at to go view it :) But anyhow after looking at it, if there are some errors I will correct, give you another URL to go to, then you reverse the cut paste from the website to the file.
[06:20] <Level15> how can i troubleshoot my ssh, which is apparently ignoring the RSA keys authentication mechanism?
[06:22] <genii> Daxana: The URL I need is what went in the URL address bar of your current web browser after you hit "Submit" in the pastebin website
[06:24] <Daxana> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33050/
[06:24] <genii> Daxana: OK, reading
[06:25] <Daxana> genii: ok,I'll wait
[06:25] <genii> Daxana: I see now exactly your issue
[06:26] <genii> Daxana: Your version of ubuntu is no longer supported, for quite a while in fact now.
[06:26] <runlevelten> Ouch, hoary hedgehog.
[06:26] <Daxana> genii: Ok, Please advise
[06:26] <runlevelten> Still has the best name though :)
[06:26] <genii> runlevelten: Yes :)
[06:27] <runlevelten> Did we have zippy zebra yet?
[06:27] <runlevelten> :)
[06:28] <Daxana> What's your suggestion, I thought I need  shipit a new one
[06:28] <genii> Daxana: If you have a decent internet connection you can download the Feisty Fawn or Dapper Drake distribution cdrom image, burn it to disk then install from that. If your internet sucks, you may insytead want to visit the ShipIt page of ubuntu and order some cdroms in the mail (this is all free)
[06:28] <ZeroTolerance> I changed my password in kubuntu for root and it asked my to truncate it so i did. What did i just do.
[06:29] <abc123> is there a channel where I can ask some general questions about linuxmce?  or would that be either here or the KDE channel?
[06:29] <Daxana> genii: Thank for advise, I appreciate it. see u next time
[06:29] <runlevelten> shortened it to the maximum number of characters
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> you changed your password
[06:29] <genii> Daxana: OK, best luck
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> why you set a root password i don't know
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> but you did
[06:29] <ZeroTolerance> So the maximum number of characters is eight right.
[06:29] <runlevelten> Daisuke_Ido: some of us prefer a real root account :)
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo su
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> easy
[06:30] <genii> su -      even easier
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> there you go
[06:30] <runlevelten> ttwomm genni
[06:31] <runlevelten> took the words outta my mouth :)
[06:31] <genii> heh
[06:31] <runlevelten> equal to gomh or gmta really.
[06:31] <BluesKaj> slow on the hunt & peck :)
[06:31] <genii> All this newfangled internet-ese i dunno if I can cope
[06:32] <genii> ROFL
[06:32] <Bene> hey everyone. i ran apt-get auto remove and now i have no internet...im really confused on what do to. im on my windows partition right now
[06:32] <BluesKaj> right doesnt use w
[06:32] <runlevelten> Honestly, if there's one thing an old mostly-console user like me gets tired of, it's typing the same bleeding string in every shell command.
[06:33] <runlevelten> sudo this, sudo that, sudo the other.
[06:33] <BluesKaj> copy and paste from referenc text file :)
[06:34] <Theory> runlevelten: alias s=sudo ?
[06:34] <BluesKaj> su su sudio ...no thanks to phil collins
[06:34] <runlevelten> It's not the length, it's the frequency.
[06:34] <djdarkman> how can I get my PC to assign an in-network ip to another PC on connection
[06:35] <runlevelten> Maybe I should rephrase that...
[06:35] <djdarkman> I mean I have a NIC with ip 192.168.0.1
[06:35] <djdarkman> I have a laptop
[06:35] <jhutchins> djdarkman: Need to run a dhcp server.
[06:35] <djdarkman> does it need configuring or just install?
[06:36] <jhutchins> djdarkman: Needs to be configured.
[06:36] <runlevelten> Nah, I tend to recreate new installations in my own image at this point, bring over my aliases, settings and so on, and prefer things how I'm used to them.
[06:36] <jhutchins> djdarkman: You'll need to specify the network range, and you can pass stuff like DNS, timeserver, etc.
[06:36] <genii> BluesKaj: I'm old too :)
[06:37] <djdarkman> is there a frondend, or I need conf wrting?
[06:37] <jhutchins> runlevelten: I try to work with the ubuntu sudo policy, but when I need to I know how to get around it.
[06:37] <Bene> stupid me ran apt-get autoremove and now i cant connect to the net. theres no knetworkmanager, wlassistant, or anything. can anyone help?
[06:37] <BluesKaj> <-- 64 on monday next
[06:37] <djdarkman> jhutchins: sudo -s
[06:37] <jhutchins> djdarkman: There may be a GUI for it, probably webmin has one.  I wouldn't know, I've always used servers without X installed.
[06:38] <jhutchins> Bene: Reinstall them.
[06:38] <genii> djdarkman: for dhcp server i generally install dhcp3-server   package then hand edit the /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf   file
[06:38] <runlevelten> I think the sudo is a Good Thing in some ways, but you know :)
[06:38] <djdarkman> well it`s kinda complicated cause this PC is both destkop and server pc :)
[06:39] <ksivaji> genii i configured my apache but i does not supports php ?
[06:39] <ksivaji> runlevelten do you have any idea ?
[06:39] <jhutchins> djdarkman: -i is preferable to -s, like su - instead of su.
[06:40] <djdarkman> can`t I set up the way that it should give a random IP from my desired NIC`s  subnet like in windows?
[06:40] <genii> ksivaji: When you say apache  you mean your apache1.33 or your apache 2.0.55 ?
[06:40] <bonesss> i did solve my problem :)
[06:40] <bonesss> tks
[06:40] <jhutchins> Bene: make sure that the CD is configured as your source and install the packages from there.
[06:40] <NickPresta> ksivaji, you have to install php5 and then add a "LoadModule" line to your apache conf file
[06:41] <jhutchins> Bene: You probably still have the console programs to configure/control your wireless, you can just use them directly.
[06:41] <gorganalmighty> Is there a tool to make a live CD/DVD from an installed (k)ubuntu install yet?
[06:41] <jhutchins> gorganalmighty: mkisofs/cdrecord.
[06:42] <gorganalmighty> Any that does the whole thing? including making it bootable with ramfs, etc?
[06:43] <genii> ksivaji: Because I remember from yesterday you had gotten the php working with your apache 1.33 but it looks from your errors today that you are attemptinmg agin the install of apache2 once more
[06:45] <jhutchins> gorganalmighty: As far as I know there's nothing for *buntu that automates the process for you.
[06:45] <jhutchins> gorganalmighty: It's usually easier to remaster a CD image than to try to create one from a HD installation.
[06:47] <CyD> BluesKaj, thanks for the help earlier. it looks like the medibuntu packages are causing some probs. i may have to do something to stop them auto-installing after I add medibuntu repo for dvdcss
[06:47] <CyD> (k3b packages)
[06:48] <BluesKaj> CyD: dvdcss has been upgraded to dvdcss2 in edgy and feisty
[06:48] <CyD> BluesKaj, yes i use dvdcss2 sry for non-specific mention
[06:49] <BluesKaj> CyD: auto installing ?
[06:50] <CyD> software updates installs medibuntu k3b and amarok packages after adding repo BluesKaj
[06:50] <BluesKaj> medibuntu pkgs are quite reliable
[06:50] <jhutchins> 
[06:50] <Assid> howdy
[06:51] <sivaji_> genii:
[06:51] <CyD> BluesKaj, I'm sure i can reproduce this medibuntu libk3b2-mp3 problem. i'll keep poking at it though
[06:51] <BluesKaj> really CyD, i thought the update merely updated the sources available not the installed pkges
[06:52] <CyD> BluesKaj, the package updater.. in kubuntu.. that pops up when updated packages are available
[06:52] <Assid> anyone know a client which lets you connect to a vnc server that uses ms login II
[06:52] <CyD> BluesKaj, not 'apt-get update'
[06:53] <BluesKaj> the upgrade notifier , adept yes, be careful with it ...it doesn't track the dependencies as well as it should , don't use the auto-install
[06:54] <CyD> BluesKaj, hrm that  is my main reason for switching everyone to this distro :)
[06:55] <auTONYmous> Hey, I just got kubuntu gusty tribe 3 installed, and I just noticed the compiz-fusion plugins are in the repos...what about the rest of the fusion packages?
[06:55] <BluesKaj> one can use the auto install as long as one is sure that the pkg updates are stable ...I prefer to use synaptic and have turned off the adept -notifier
[06:56] <CyD> BluesKaj, noted, thanks much
[06:56] <BluesKaj> CyD: it works for the first 2-3 upgraders after a new clean install, then be wary of it
[06:57] <genii> sivaji_: Yes, this is ksivaji ?
[06:57] <BluesKaj> but of course one must be sure that the sources.list is relaible ...sort of goes without saying
[06:58] <sivaji_> genii ya
[06:58] <BluesKaj> reliable
[06:58] <sivaji_> genii i configured apache but i has some problem with processing php
[06:58] <bonesss> guys, what does lib i must to install for use voice in amsn?
[06:58] <genii> sivaji_: OK, so i take it you mean your apache2 and not apache1   then?
[06:59] <sivaji_> genii i have apache 1.3 running
[06:59] <genii> sivaji_: I know yesterday your apache1  was working with php4 when i last talked to you
[06:59] <genii> sivaji_: There is not php5 for apache 1.3 btw
[07:00] <sivaji_> genii ya apache.1.3 can process only echo statement
[07:02] <sivaji_> genii i have PHP 5.2.1 (cli) (built: Jul 17 2007 18:14:23)
[07:03] <celebrate> selam
[07:03] <mimik> help ... i keep losing access to the second hard drive i mounted
[07:03] <celebrate> kimse var m
[07:04] <ikonia> Any rose garden users please confirm which ubuntu kernel they are using. I asked in #ubuntu but realised kde users are more likley to use it
[07:05] <abc123> is there a channel where I can ask some general questions about linuxmce?  or would that be either here or the KDE channel?
[07:05] <genii> sivaji_: If you need php 5.X I would say to go with apache2
[07:05] <genii> sivaji_: sorry for lag keep getting called away to work
[07:06] <BluesKaj> abc123: i beleieve there's a #linuxmce chat
[07:06] <abc123> BluesKaj, I tried that, I was the only one there
[07:06] <sivaji_> genii no apache2 is responsible for all those problem i hope you know
[07:07] <genii> sivaji_: I think it is more that you have mixed the configuration files between the two versions actually :)
[07:08] <evri2> guys,is there a way that i can make my cpu speed up when it is under %75 load.It speed up at %30 or %40 sth i think.
[07:08] <sivaji_> genii ya your right
[07:08] <BluesKaj> abc123: some of us here know a thing or 2 about linux media ,  you can always ask :)
[07:09] <genii> sivaji_: I am getting a work call to go to the post office. back in about 5-7 minutes
[07:09] <bonesss> WHAT DO I NEED TO INSTALL FOR VOICE CONVERSATION IN AMSN?
[07:09] <sivaji_> genii ok
[07:09] <NickPresta> !caps | bonesss
[07:09] <ubotu> bonesss: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:10] <bonesss> so answer me
[07:11] <BluesKaj> !patience | bonesss
[07:11] <ubotu> bonesss: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:11] <bonesss> ;\
[07:12] <sivaji_> repeat this again soon you will be banned
[07:13] <NickPresta> !attitude | bonesss
[07:13] <ubotu> bonesss: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:13] <admin0> i am shifting from ubuntu and xubuntu to kubuntu and i think it's good
[07:13] <admin0> cool
[07:13] <BluesKaj> bonesss: have you thought of researching it yourself on http://www.google.com/linux , there are some things one can for ones' self
[07:15] <BluesKaj> NickPresta:  some of these ppl act like they're paying us for the privelege of helping them :)
[07:15] <NickPresta> bonesss, what makes you think aMSN can support direct voice chat on the MSN protocol? I don't see any mention of voice chat on the features list (http://www.amsn-project.net/features.php). Version 0.97RC1 mentions "voice clips", whatever those are
[07:15] <abc123> BluesKaj, I have a lot of general questions, I'm wondering if it's worth setting up, I have an XP MCE box setup now, which is working more or less fine, I was just wondering if it would be worth it to do a LinuxMCE, since I don't plan on doing the automation, or anything.  I was just curious how much more stable LinuxMCE was than XP MCE, which doesn't crash on me too often.  I'm making a forum post on the LinuxMCE forums, I'll
[07:15] <abc123>  let you know when it's done.
[07:17] <bonesss> and what does "voice clips" means?
[07:17] <BluesKaj> abc123: from watching the linux guru Marcel Gagne on" Lab with Leo " , he thinks linuxmce is superior in all aspects to XPMCE ...it does take abit more work to set up , however
[07:17] <djdarkman_> /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf line 114: subnet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0: bad subnet number/mask combination.
[07:17] <djdarkman_> subnet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:18] <djdarkman_> why is this impossible?
[07:18] <NickPresta> bonesss, I don't know what "voice clips" are. I don't use aMSN. Apparently there is a plugin/module in CVS that uses linphone-im for voice chat but it's experimental.
[07:18] <runlevelten> That's the story of open source software historically, BluesKaj
[07:18] <Theory> djdarkman_: you mean subnet 192.168.0.0
[07:18] <NickPresta> bonesss, if you need to chat with someone, why not try Skype?
[07:18] <abc123> BluesKaj, do you know which episode that was on, which number?
[07:19] <bonesss> NickPresta: yes, i'm use skype too
[07:19] <BluesKaj> yes runlevelten , but it's worth the effort apparently ..linuxmce is quite amazing from most reports
[07:19] <bonesss> in really
[07:19] <bonesss> i'm gentoo's user
[07:19] <bonesss> and
[07:19] <llutz> !enter| bonesss
[07:19] <ubotu> bonesss: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:20] <BluesKaj> abc123:  it was last winter ... don't remeber exactly ...it might be on the lab with leo site shownotes
[07:20] <djdarkman_> doesn`t work
[07:20] <bonesss> i've installed kubuntu for my family, in the place of win
[07:20] <NickPresta> bonesss, http://amsn.sourceforge.net/devwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Installing+Plugins+and+Skins http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Audio+and+Video+support+status
[07:21] <lolpop> il ya quelle q'un qui parle francais ?
[07:21] <djdarkman_> Theory:
[07:21] <djdarkman_> subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[07:21] <djdarkman_>     interface eth0;
[07:21] <djdarkman_>     range 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.254;
[07:21] <djdarkman_> }
[07:21] <djdarkman_> why is this bad?
[07:21] <NickPresta> !fr | lolpop
[07:21] <ubotu> lolpop: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:21] <djdarkman_> I mean it`s valid but not working
[07:22] <NickPresta> !pastebin | djdarkman_
[07:22] <ubotu> djdarkman_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <sivaji_> whether PHP 5.2.1 (cli) (built: Jul 17 2007 18:14:23) work fine with apache 1.3
[07:24] <llutz> is there no other way to start an app on all desktop than using "kstart" in kde? :(
[07:26] <sivaji_> !php
[07:26] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:30] <runlevelten> llutz: you can create window-specific rules for particular windows classes that create them on all desktops.
[07:30] <genii> sivaji_: OK back for a little while. There is a way to run arbitrary types of executables from apache/apache2 using the cgi-bin type method instead of modules. If you are set in using apache1.33 with your specific php versio for instance. I would not recommend this however
[07:30] <runlevelten> in kcontrol  desktop  windows specific settings
[07:31] <sivaji_> ok
[07:31] <abc123> BluesKaj, I was also wondering cost vs benefit, since the only thing that really appeals to me is "follow me" but I don't have bluetooth on anything, so I'd have to get dongles.  Do you know of any pre-setup boxes?  Like these http://store02.prostores.com/servlet/tvease/StoreFront ?
[07:32] <runlevelten> You can match the window class and make it show on all desktops. As you can imagine, you can create a separate shortcut that would, say, set the initial window title for an app, and have it as "open on all desktops"
[07:32] <runlevelten> whilst leaving the original launcher at default, as it were.
[07:32] <llutz> runlevelten: ah, thanks for that hint, i'll try that way
[07:33] <runlevelten> llutz: np, good luck
[07:34] <genii> sivaji_: I believe best course here (while tedious) is to properly get apache2 installed. I know previously it was having some issues with the /etc/apache2 directory, if recalling correctly.
[07:34] <sivaji_> thats what i am trying
[07:35] <genii> sivaji_: Does the dir /etc/apache2 exist on your box, and if so, who does the directory belong to?
[07:35] <sivaji_> ya
[07:36] <genii> sivaji_: When you do: ls -ld /etc/apache2                 do you get like so: drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2006-12-05 08:41 /etc/apache2
[07:37] <sivaji_> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2007-08-08 21:54 /etc/apache2
[07:37] <teguh> who knows the name application similar with "limewire" in xubuntu
[07:38] <NickPresta> teguh, frostwire
[07:38] <genii> sivaji_: Good. Please now use the pastebin and post the results of the command: ls -lR /etc/apache2
[07:39] <teguh> thank nick
[07:40] <sivaji_> genii http://pastebin.com/d3951bc79
[07:40] <genii> sivaji_: OK 1 minute
[07:41] <sivaji_> ya
[07:41] <seezer> hi. can anyone tell me what feels itself responsible to display that nice "volume" OSD when one tries to change the volume via keyboard volume control buttons?
[07:42] <genii> sivaji_: OK. From what i can see. You have few modules available. Also no php module at all. So we will try to install a basic set of apache2 modules
[07:42] <genii> work, AFK
[07:43] <sivaji_> genii ok
[07:43] <seezer> this worked fine for me on feisty but since updating to gutsy i can only set two values "0%" and "11%" (which are not used by kmixer or anything - volume doesn't change at all)
[07:45] <Assid> runlevelten: you there
[07:45] <sivaji_> genii :
[07:45] <runlevelten> Assid: kind of, heh. Everything OK?
[07:45] <Assid> runlevelten: nah about that font stuff man
[07:46] <Assid> i really need it to look good.. i do web development.. and if  cant see what im doing .. im gonna get kicked
[07:49] <runlevelten> Yeah, I believe freetype2 might not be up to scratch by default.
[07:49] <Greenery> when i try to view guild wars official website, some image that are suppose to be at the background goes on top always. Is this flash plugin fault?
[07:50] <Greenery> it happens on both konqueror and firefox
[07:50] <runlevelten> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343670
[07:50] <genii> sivaji_: OK , i'm back
[07:50] <genii> Bah he left again
[07:51] <Assid> runlevelten:  i really hope so man.. i mean kvirc has awesome sans-serif..
[07:51] <Assid> but arial.. sucky
[07:52] <BluesKaj> darn, was called away and abc123 left before i could answer his question
[07:53] <genii> BluesKaj: Same for me but with ksivaji/sivaji_
[07:54] <NickPresta> heh
[07:55] <titanix88> hello blueskaj have u heard about red hat global desktop?
[07:55] <runlevelten> arial *is* sucky though. Have you gone back and looked at in windows lately?
[07:56] <runlevelten> I mean fair play for Trebuchet, but Arial..ew.
[07:58] <Assid> runlevelten: yeah i just want it to look like windows does ATLEAST
[07:58] <titanix88> omfg people are even used with win fonts?
[07:58] <Assid> cause i gotta do what people want
[07:58] <Assid> they say they want arial.. i give them arial.. they say black is brown.. i say YES..
[07:59] <genii> Isn't there msttcorefonts or somesuch?
[07:59] <runlevelten> Is it just the small sizes that look crappy?
[07:59] <Assid> as long as they are paying me.. i will change whatever font they want.. whatever text they want
[07:59] <Assid> runlevelten: not sure.. google for example looks messed up
[07:59] <titanix88> no win clone,no win clone......
[07:59] <Assid> same time if i look at sans-serif.. damn.. its better than what windows has
[07:59] <runlevelten> you may have to exclude a certain size range in kcontrol.
[08:00] <Assid> i tried that
[08:00] <Assid> didnt help
[08:00] <titanix88> assid tried dejavu?
[08:00] <runlevelten> titanix88: some people have to meet specs.
[08:00] <Assid> then i tried nvidia-settings for anti aliasing.. same thing
[08:00] <runlevelten> Can you show me a screenshot?
[08:01] <Assid> what are those free image upload studfff again?
[08:01] <titanix88> font antialiasing isn't 3d antialiasing says titanix
[08:01] <titanix88> font antialiasing isn't 3d antialiasing says titanix
[08:02] <runlevelten> you could use mediafire.
[08:02] <dhq> how do i install flash for firefox
[08:02] <runlevelten> !flash
[08:02] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:04] <titanix88> people complain abt linux fonts cause they don't use win with crt monitor.
[08:04] <Assid> http://www.mediafire.com/?3mx0mkyju29
[08:05] <titanix88> i do and it's tons uglier
[08:05] <morph_> hello all
[08:05] <Assid> err
[08:05] <Assid> i use win with CRT
[08:05] <Assid> i dont like LCDs
[08:06] <Assid> the refresh rates are too low for me.. i get a headache even at 75hz
[08:06] <Assid> or the colors are too damn bright.. or just cant set it right to be "normal"
[08:06] <Assid> im sticking to CRTs for the pc..
[08:07] <Assid> runlevelten:  http://www.mediafire.com/?3mx0mkyju29
[08:07] <runlevelten> ]  <titanix88> font antialiasing isn't 3d antialiasing says titanix ORLY?
[08:07] <Assid> even google desktop preferances page looks shitty
[08:08] <titanix88> then how can u have affection for clear or std type fonts of win?!?
[08:08] <runlevelten> oi! Family pub!
[08:08] <Assid> i just need to be able to see it without going nuts.. and be able to know what people are using when they do use it
[08:09] <ksivaji> !aptfix
[08:09] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:09] <runlevelten> !explaintheconceptofworkingtospec | titanix88
[08:10] <maverick_> guys, anyone has an idea about how to uninstall compiled from source apps?
[08:10] <titanix88> assid simple logic. ur desktop isn't drawn using 3d graphics capab.
[08:10] <maverick_> or i just delete their folders?
[08:10] <Assid> for fonts???
[08:10] <genii> maverick_: If the command make uninstall doesn't work try either   make dist   or make distclean
[08:11] <Assid> heck even my vmware-windows looks good with arial
[08:11] <runlevelten> I wonder if its your display, Assid. I mean notwithstanding that firefox text = crap, the image doesn't look too bad on mine.
[08:11] <maverick_> genii: should i be in the apps source folder while executing the command or what?
[08:11] <titanix88> assid btw t can install ms fonts if u like.
[08:11] <runlevelten> """"<titanix88> assid simple logic. ur desktop isn't drawn using 3d graphics capab."""" Ahaha.
[08:11] <runlevelten> What exactly ARE Xgl and GLX then, titanix88?
[08:11] <Assid> see the smaller text on the right side of the google search box
[08:12] <genii> maverick_: Yup
[08:12] <genii> maverick_: You may need prefix of sudo
[08:13] <Assid> runlevelten: did you see the image?
[08:13] <runlevelten> Assid: I see no aliasing or blurring or anything.
[08:13] <titanix88> xgl render's 2d windows as a texture.it's overall.
[08:13] <titanix88> xgl render's 2d windows as a texture.it's overall.
[08:14] <runlevelten> titanix88: you're echoing twice in the channel.
[08:14] <titanix88> not just for fonts.
[08:14] <runlevelten> fix your irc client pls :)
[08:14] <Assid> runlevelten: hold on.. im getting another one
[08:15] <runlevelten> ok
[08:15] <runlevelten> titanix88: Yes... thank you for your thoughts :)
[08:15] <Assid> hrmm the screenshot is a WEEE bit better than the actual
[08:15] <Assid> but hold on
[08:16] <dhq> can i upgrade to gusty gibbon now
[08:16] <Assid> dhq if you want to.. but i normally would wait till its stable
[08:17] <dhq> Assid, well is it ok to use
[08:17] <Assid> should be.. there are quite a few people on it
[08:17] <Assid> i think
[08:18] <dhq> Assid, well i was thinking of doing it but dont wanna break much of my system
[08:18] <maverick_> wiered, Beyon The Red Line game was causing sluggish act of ktorrent...
[08:18] <Assid> you really should wait then.. sholdnt be too long
[08:18] <stdin> dhq: Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc
[08:19] <dhq> stdin, what will be the problems i may face
[08:19] <Assid> runlevelten: http://www.mediafire.com/?30zmymnbyyp
[08:19] <Assid> see the words openoffice
[08:20] <Assid> they are cutting out
[08:20] <Assid> even the previous one.. the small fonts of "Advanced search" were kinda bad
[08:20] <Assid> i also have another issue.. sometimes .. the fonts look elongated
[08:20] <stdin> dhq: could be a number of things, the is no grantee that it will be usable at all, and the an update won't break the system. That's why it's called unstable
[08:21] <dhq> k
[08:22] <titanix88> am i still echoing?
[08:22] <arun> can i run suse/other linux distros in vmware?
[08:23] <runlevelten> yes
[08:23] <runlevelten> arun: yes titanix88: no
[08:23] <boss> some one give me your /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[08:23] <titanix88> runlevelten am i still echoing?
[08:23] <runlevelten> titanix88: no
[08:24] <arun> am thinking whether i should try opensuse or fc
[08:24] <Assid> runlevelten: did you see the last link?
[08:24] <titanix88> then i found a bug in jmirc
[08:25] <runlevelten> Assid: I'm still looking at it. It looks like pretty standard crappy fonts in FF to me. Does it look wrong in konqy, and also are you able to look at the screenies on a different pooter and see whether they lok the same?
[08:25] <yukino> hola?
[08:25] <Assid> runlevelten: yeah.. arial looks pretty different
[08:25] <yukino> alquien abla espaol?
[08:25] <stdin> !es
[08:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:25] <Assid> most sites do use arial helvetica
[08:25] <yukino> muchas gracias!!!!
[08:25] <Assid> runlevelten: and see this one: http://www.mediafire.com/?1ynd3sqdo2a  -- the fonts are like stretched vertically.. they look soo damn tall
[08:26] <Assid> let me check some of these sites with konqueror
[08:26] <titanix88> arun wait for redhat global desktop if u don't like ubuntu
[08:27] <Assid> yes bad with konqueror too
[08:27] <arun> titanix88: i love kubuntu.. just want to try out other distros for fun
[08:28] <Assid> but the kde one looks good in konqueror
[08:28] <Assid> thin.. but not that bad
[08:28] <sudeep> help me out ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33063/
[08:28] <titanix88> assid maybe u enabled bitmap fonts/a guess
[08:29] <Assid> bitmap fonts?
[08:29] <titanix88> arun then install all of them:)
[08:30] <sudeep> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33063/
[08:31] <titanix88> assid don't know abt sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig?
[08:32] <Assid> i htink it might even be helvetica causing this
[08:32] <titanix88> sudeep indian?
[08:32] <sudeep> titanix88, what makes u think so .?
[08:33] <titanix88> ofcourse the nick.
[08:33] <Assid> okay will restart x later
[08:34] <Assid> im getting good speeds for my dl finally
[08:35] <hoek> people, what's your experience with Tribe 3 ? Is ist stable enough to introduce someone new to linux?
[08:36] <Assid> hrmm anyone know how to remove the compiz-fusion effects for menus ?
[08:36] <Assid> i think its the emerald effects.. i get those shadows and bevel.. it looks bad
[08:37] <runlevelten> Assid: how do your fonts look without 3d effects enabled?
[08:37] <Assid> 3d effects??
[08:37] <Assid> same
[08:37] <runlevelten> I have mine switched off for typography work and stuff as my display seems ever so slightly more blurry for very fine detail.
[08:37] <stdin> hoek: no, no, no
[08:38] <sudeep>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33063/
[08:38] <Assid> runlevelten:  compiz ?
[08:38] <runlevelten> It's just occurred to me, duh.
[08:38] <runlevelten> Assid: yeah.
[08:38] <mauricio> trekdanne: hi!
[08:38] <Assid> i can try it in  a bit.. i dont wanna restart X at the moment
[08:39] <Assid> runlevelten: lots of font handling difference between firefox and konqueror
[08:40] <Assid> hehe.. i like ff.. it displays most websites with ease
[08:40] <Assid> konqueror doesnt wanna display my own site properly
[08:40] <theverant> Compiz fusion is eating my desktop - how can I have it not start automatically?
[08:40] <Assid> w3c compliant html.. not sure of the css tho
[08:41] <Level15> Assid: i like konq...
[08:41] <theverant> Is there a startup config file or something?
[08:41] <Level15> Assid you can validate css too
[08:41] <Assid> theverant:  how did you add it to the start up
[08:41] <Assid> Level15:  yeah i know.. i just didnt
[08:41] <Level15> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
[08:41] <theverant> Assid - I didn't actively add it.  It just started up when I logged in
[08:41] <Assid> right now im thinking of moving from thunderbird to kmail
[08:41] <theverant> Which is what I wanted... until it broke
[08:41] <Level15> Assid: good choice
[08:42] <Assid> only problem is.. if i ever move back to windows.. it would be a major issue for me
[08:42] <Level15> Assid: why would u want to move to win?
[08:42] <runlevelten> kmail is a better mail client in my opinion.
[08:43] <Level15> kmail pwnz
[08:43] <Assid> theverant: good chance its in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:43] <Level15> theverant: how did i get it autostarting on the first place?
[08:43] <runlevelten> It does all the stuff thunderbird does with more mature implementations, plus more stuff (useful stuff) and it's nicer looking than thunderbird to my eye.
[08:43] <runlevelten> Certainly if you notice how fonts display ;)
[08:44] <Assid> runlevelten: yeah i wanna see some eye candy.. im tired of xp.. thats why im here
[08:44] <theverant> Level15 - I don't know.  I think KDE was saving my session and recalling on reboot
[08:44] <Level15> hm
[08:44] <theverant> Level15 - because things like Konversation also started automagically
[08:44] <runlevelten> It sucks that you're not seeing nice font display, I'm very pleased with mine.
[08:44] <runlevelten> (apart from ff, heh)
[08:44] <mendes> Good afternoon,
[08:44] <theverant> now I'm Gnome... and it makes me sad... :p
[08:44] <Assid> runlevelten: yeah seriously.. thats one of the only few issues im facing
[08:45] <Assid> i got most of my stuff sorted out.. seriously i have
[08:45] <Level15> to undo it, we need to know how is it being restored... you can try autostart folder as already suggested, env folder (maybe WM is being set there) and exiting any emeral/compiz/beryl related stuff that is sitting in your tray
[08:46] <theverant> I can also describe the problem - I log in, desktop is fine... things start to load - then Compiz kicks in, and I get maybe a quarter of one of my screens which isn't black.  Then all new windows load in that part as if that's all the screen i have
[08:46] <elyes> Salut
[08:46] <theverant> but ALT+TAB is still displaying in its normal position.  And the mouse cursor can travel over the black area as well
[08:47] <ikichi> quelqun peut me dire se qu veut dire Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[08:47] <theverant> it's bizarro
[08:47] <theverant> the weirdest thing is compiz works like a charm in Gnome
[08:47] <runlevelten> Assid: try without compiz if you're the kind of guy that sees a difference. Also don't expect antialiasing in FF as of yet.
[08:47] <theverant> performance is noticeably better, as well
[08:48] <mendes> Do somebody knows how to redirect ports with iptables ONLY for the packages witch have internet as destination? I've got 3 eths in this server, one connected to my LAN, other to internet and other to my intranet wan...
[08:48] <Assid> runlevelten: trust me.. i can see a difference between LCD @75hz vs LCD @72hz
[08:48] <theverant> Level15 - there's nothing compiz related in my tray.  Not that I can see it, because it's in the black area
[08:49] <Level15> theverant: check Autostart and env folders
[08:49] <Goffi> hi
[08:49] <runlevelten> Assid: Haha, welcome to the Anal Retentives Society - here's your membership card, fashioned in the shape of a dodecahedron of course.
[08:50] <theverant> Level15 - I checked both folders... there's nothing there, it seems
[08:50] <runlevelten> theverant: and what does krandrtray do for you?
[08:50] <Assid> whats a dodecahedron ?
[08:50] <Level15> hmmm weirdo... ok, while in kde, open a konsole, pkill emerald, pkill compiz/beryl, kwin --replace
[08:51] <runlevelten> Hey Assid, I feel confident you'll Google it, hehe
[08:51] <Assid> err.. whats the difference between imap and disconnected imap in kmail ?!?!?
[08:52] <_titanix88> sudeep me back.
[08:52] <_titanix88> sudeep me back.
[08:52] <Level15> !repeat|ejortegau
[08:52] <ubotu> ejortegau: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:53] <Level15> sorry about that... i was just testing...
[08:53] <maverick_> genii: thnx , it worked
[08:53] <Assid> runlevelten: you know what . cvertain themes in emerald look worse than others for fonts
[08:53] <genii> maverick_: Glad it got solved :)
[08:53] <theverant> Level15 - thanks.  I'll log into kde and see if that does it
[08:54] <Assid> i just changed it.. and it sucks in konqueror
[08:54] <_titanix88> assid what again?
[08:55] <runlevelten> dimap is for kolab, innit.
[08:59] <Assid> kmail got major issues
[08:59] <Assid> seriously major issues
[09:00] <Assid> okay .. when you go to subscribe folders.. it just resizes to something tiny
[09:00] <Assid> i make it bigger.. it doesnt stay that way
[09:00] <arun> has any one here tried red hat?
[09:00] <_titanix88> an offtopic: all the avg joe friends of mine ordered ubuntu when they heard abt ubuntu shiping free cds.after getting most didn't bother installing it cause they didn't knew how to boot from cds,others used them as reflectors,one who tried said it's a crap cause he could not install it to a vfat
[09:00] <_titanix88> an offtopic: all the avg joe friends of mine ordered ubuntu when they heard abt ubuntu shiping free cds.after getting most didn't bother installing it cause they didn't knew how to boot from cds,others used them as reflectors,one who tried said it's a crap cause he could not install it to a vfat
[09:01] <Assid> runlevelten: do you enable force fonts for 96 dpi ?
[09:04] <Assid> _titanix88:  you ever force fonts for 96dpi ?
[11:04] <royel> K3b is continually making my system non responsive, not a complete lock-up, but I still have to hard reboot to get control again. This happens each time I try and burn an .iso image to disc, it will reach the stage of "preparing to write" an then you see the timer ticking up for a couple minutes but no progress to the cd, then the computer slows down to an unuseable state, any clues?
[11:04] <kruemel> stdin: you are a funny guy, i dont have internet on the pc, the tool kwifimanager is on the cd (for internet)...
[11:05] <kruemel> nosrednaekim: with Nero in Windows
[11:05] <stdin> kruemel: how would I know, you never actually mentioned that did you?
[11:05] <kruemel> stdin: i am sorry.. but now you know ;)
[11:06] <stdin> kruemel: anyway, look at the output, it should give some sort of message about the cd device there
[11:06] <kruemel> stdin: okay wait a min
[11:08] <kruemel> stdin: there are only "wlan0 auth failed" errors and the message "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector0" but nothing else
[11:09] <stdin> hmm
[11:09] <stdin> kruemel: what does "ls -l /dev/cdrom" show ?
[11:09] <kruemel> nosrednaekim: i created a multisession disc on windows, perhaps this was the error?!
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> kruemel: oh.... yeah, maybe
[11:10] <kruemel> nosrednaekim: is the problem windows or the multisession?
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> kruemel: wait.... you said you just needed kwifimanager.... so your wireless may be working?
[11:10] <kruemel> stdin: there is the MEssage "no such File or directory"
[11:11] <Sharp12> stdin - I see the server but I cannot connect into the file shares...any ideas
[11:12] <stdin> Sharp12: maybe have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[11:12] <stdin> kruemel: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[11:12] <winbond> i have a problem with the screen frame in kde 3.5.7, its not square like it should be put repeatedly bulges out to the right side, then the left side, then it makes the S looking edge and goes back to the bulge on the other side )( ()
[11:12] <kruemel> nosrednaekim: hmm.. well i tryed before to configure it, with - i dont know- tool but i cannot connect, then i surfed in the internet and found kwifimananger, is there any other way to get into internet with KDE without kwifimanger (with wlan)?
[11:13] <kruemel> stdin: kubuntu 7.04
[11:13] <lks_> how to disable the automatical start of adept?
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> kruemel: there is always the command line way.... do you have an encrypted network?
[11:13] <stdin> kruemel: ok, do you have a file called /dev/scd0 ?
[11:13] <kruemel> nosrednaekim: yes, i have encrypted network, how to do with the comman line way? ;)
[11:14] <nosrednaekim> kruemel: WEP or WPA?
[11:14] <kruemel> stdin: a file or a directory?
[11:14] <kruemel> nosrednaekim: WEP
[11:14] <stdin> kruemel: should be a file
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> kruemel: ok... that MAY make it easy.... what is the wireless chipset in your computer? braodcom? Atheros? Ralink?
[11:16] <meuhlol> kruemel: (and others) what's question?
[11:16] <kruemel> stdin: no i dont have /dev/scd0 only sda1, ....
[11:16] <stdin> hmm, why can't it find your cdrom....
[11:16] <nosrednaekim> meuhlol: trying to get his wireless working... and his CR drive too
[11:16] <kruemel> and the wlan..
[11:16] <kruemel> i need the cd for the wlan..
[11:16] <meuhlol> stdin: yo! bro!
[11:16] <kruemel> chipset, wait a min
[11:17] <meuhlol> nosrednaekim: okey thanks
[11:17] <meuhlol> hmm
[11:17] <meuhlol> CD is not mounting itself?
[11:17] <stdin> meuhlol: :)
[11:18] <meuhlol> fuck'n of bullshit questio: kruemel did your CD-Rom drive is "ON" in your Bios?
[11:18] <kruemel> nosrednaekim: Trendnet 54Mbps 802.11g - but Linux found driver like: Texas...
[11:18] <matthew> hi everyone
[11:18] <kruemel> meuhlol: of course, i installed linux in the afternoon...
[11:18] <stdin> meuhlol: watch the language
[11:18] <nosrednaekim> !ohmy | meuhlol
[11:18] <ubotu> meuhlol: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:19] <kruemel> meuhlol: well, i dont know if its mounting itself, i created it with Nero (on Windwos), a multisession disc
[11:19] <meuhlol> kruemel: and now, when you try to mount your CD nothing happens?
[11:20] <kruemel> meuhlol: well i cant mount it, or i do something wrong, i tried it with stdin (user here in mirc)
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> kruemel: could you run iwconfig and see what the device is named? it'll be the one with the large entry.
[11:20] <meuhlol> stdin: sorry, but some times ago in msn, some dude tell me: omfg, i'm on MSN but my Internet Explorer don't work!!! -> 3 hours about his problem... result: he was in "work offline" mode lol
[11:20] <kruemel> nosrednaekim: write iwconfig in console?
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> kruemel: yeah
[11:21] <meuhlol> kruemel: yep, tape sudo iwconfig in your console
[11:21] <meuhlol> and tell your results
[11:22] <nosrednaekim> meuhlol: kruemel: just the device name
[11:22] <kruemel> nosrednaekim: well i cant find the entry "chipset" or something other.. what is it look like? there is something like "wlan0 ... IEEE 802.11b+/g+ ..."
[11:23] <nosrednaekim> kruemel: yeah. thats what I wanted... wlan0
[11:23] <hagabaka> will it be possible to run KDE4 and KDE3 without changing environment variables in the future?
[11:24] <stdin> hagabaka: not with them side by side
[11:24] <hagabaka> so after KDE4 is stable, it will upgrade the kde3 package?
[11:25] <Assid> hagabaka: you gotta wait for it to come to kubuntus main stream.. or get the backports to your version
[11:26] <meuhlol> kruemel: for a cdrom mount
[11:26] <kruemel> nosrednaekim: well, what to do now, my aim is, to get internet? i know SSID and WEP, but i dont know, what i have to write into the console
[11:26] <ghostcom_> hey everyone, i can't get QTParted to format some free space to ntfs.  It doesn't even show ntfs as a choice
[11:26] <hagabaka> Assid: yes, but at that time it will replace the KDE3 package?
[11:26] <meuhlol> tape this in console and show results please:
[11:26] <meuhlol> dmesg | grep hd
[11:26] <Assid> no.. kde3 is the official kde package for feisty
[11:27] <hagabaka> in future ubuntu then
[11:27] <kruemel> meuhlol: well the cd mount it the 2nd problem, on it is only the tool kwifimanager for the internet...
[11:28] <hagabaka> will it upgrade the kde packages, or will it be provided in separated packages named kde4-*?
[11:28] <meuhlol> kruemel: for wifi you have other tools
[11:28] <nosredna> kruemel: ok, this is me, I had a power outage
[11:28] <meuhlol> whith what you have no problem
[11:28] <nosredna> kruemel: ok, run these commands as I give them to you. "sudo iwconfig wlan0 ESSID your-ESSID
[11:28] <kruemel> nosredna: okay, well wlan0, what to write into console?
[11:29] <kruemel> nosredna: ok
[11:29] <nosredna> then "sudo iwconfig key your-WEP-key"
[11:29] <nosredna> whoops, don't do that second one...
[11:29] <nosredna> run "sudo iwconfig wlan0 key your-WEP-key"
[11:30] <nosredna> then run "sudo dhclient wlan0"
[11:32] <kruemel> nosredna: you are too fast ;) well i start to type: sudo iwconfig wlan0 ESSID FRITZ!Box WLAN 3030, but there was a error...
[11:33] <p47> Hola a todos, alguna persona podria ayudarme con AlSA ?
[11:33] <stdin> !es
[11:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:33] <nosredna> kruemel: you have spaces in your ESSID? ok, put your ESSID within quotes line "my ESSID is"
[11:33] <kruemel> nosredna: yes i thought so too, but the same error, the problem is the !
[11:34] <cedric_> comment on fait pour installer un fichier tar.gz
[11:34] <nosredna> did you put JUST your ESSID withing quotes?
[11:34] <vzduch> !fr | cedric_
[11:34] <ubotu> cedric_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:35] <cedric_> thank
[11:35] <kruemel> nosredna: i put: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "FRITZ!Box WLAN 3030" --> error: !Box event not found
[11:36] <ksnipz> was wondering if anyone knew of a video playing app that allows to change the aspect ratio (ie lets me play widescreen movies in widescreen and not have bars)
[11:36] <stdin> kruemel: replace the normal quotes with single quotes  '
[11:36] <Sharp12> Is there a place where one should put file shares?
[11:36] <stdin> ksnipz: VLC does
[11:37] <ksnipz> stdin thanks I'll reinstall vlc tonight and check it out
[11:39] <tank> ok well using gFTP all I get is "550 /public/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/images/toolbars.gif: Permission denied" when I try to upload files
[11:39] <nosredna> kruemel: sorry, I have to go.
[11:40] <kruemel> nosredna: wait a second
[11:40] <kruemel> nosredna: i works, toll dhcleint.. there he sends something.. but he get no message back i think...
[11:48] <tank> anyone good with gFTP?
[11:48] <tank> it will not let me upload anything
[11:49] <tank> as much as I like ubuntu so far EVERYTHING is a struggle lol
[11:49] <kruemel> does anybody now, how to change the key-type in dhclient?
[11:51] <level1> Hi guys, the nvidia proprietary installers worked for me, but the ubuntu installers didn't.  They are the same driver.  Is this worth reporting to the ubuntu team?
[11:52] <s1mxn> LOS METALLER JOINT HRT ZU UND GEHT FLIEGEN DEN (/!\) #pure-metal /!\ mit [P-M] Mentario /!\ Late Night Show /!\ ist online /!\ (/!\ StreamFile @ www.pure-metal.de oda http://www.metal.host-tech.de/portal/getstream1.php?stream=1 [noSry4amsg] 
[11:52] <tank> hmm took care of him
[11:56] <KanRiNiN_> Can anyone help with an fstab problem.  I've been through the manual page.  It's something simple, I know
[11:56] <Assid> i killed compiz
[11:58] <kruemel> does anybody now, how to change the key-type in dhclient?
[11:58] <tank> it seems we have more questions than answers at the moment lol...
[11:59] <fester> how do I change the network name assigned to my computer?
[12:00] <Assid> fester: kcontrol > network
[12:00] <Solifugus> What can you do to troubleshoot after a message like this from adept?  "a problem downloading some packages, or else the commit would break packages."
[12:00] <ubuntu> ayuda
[12:01] <maverick_> Solifugus: sudo aptitude -f install
[12:01] <maverick_> Solifugus: i guess....it should propose some solutions
[12:02] <ubuntu> que requisitos minimos de sistema para la ultima distribucion de kubuntu
[12:02] <vzduch> !es | ubuntu
[12:02] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:02] <maverick_> !ar | ubuntu
[12:02] <ubuntu> gracias
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <maverick_> lol
[12:02] <vzduch> o aqu en ingls
[12:03] <KanRiNiN_> What's the bad option in this?  /dev/hda1	/mnt/BFD 	xfs	auto,user,rw,uid=100	0	0  It throws errors when I try to mount it via nautilus
[12:03] <KanRiNiN_> but not when I take out the uid=100
[12:03] <KanRiNiN_> but only root can write to it if I take out the uid, right?
[12:04] <KanRiNiN_> Come on.  I've been at this for over an hour and one of you could fix it in minutes
[12:05] <nosredna> !es | vzduch
[12:05] <ubotu> vzduch: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:05] <fester> Kcontrol is already supposed to be loaded,but I can't find it in the menus. Where is Kcontrol?
[12:05] <kruemel> nosredna: you are back?
[12:06] <nosredna> yeah.. just.
[12:06] <nosredna> kruemel: did it work?
[12:06] <Solifugus> no matter what i install, running this java app (treebeard) gives me the error "SAX2 Driver class org.apache.crimson.parser.XMLReaderImp not found"
[12:06] <vzduch> nosredna: don't throw around w/ factoids if you don't know what's the deal ;)
[12:06] <jhutchins> KanRiNiN_: WHo is uid 10000?
[12:06] <jhutchins> KanRiNiN_: What's the filesystem?
[12:06] <zimmo> does anybody know any interesting Linux's softwares for downloading?
[12:06] <nosredna> vzduch: a thousand pardons..
[12:07] <vzduch> Solifugus: SAX2 sounds very suspiciously like SUSE..
[12:07] <kruemel> nosredna: noo :( but i think the problem is the key, i have a key with 13 charts, but with "iwconfig" there is key: *************000000000 and behind 0, i think thats the problem
[12:07] <zimmo> any website I mean for downloading linux softwares
[12:07] <maverick_> zimmo: Stick to the repos...or go to the targeted software's website
[12:07] <Solifugus> vzduch, no.. it is java xml parser class
[12:07] <nosredna> zimmo: no real need for that, use adept
[12:07] <jhutchins> zimmo: We mostly just use the standard repositories, plenty of stuff to play with there.
[12:07] <zimmo> okay
[12:08] <zimmo> i know the sourceforge
[12:08] <zimmo> and i usually use the apt ok
[12:08] <zimmo> only if once I could need
[12:08] <maverick_> zimmo: No offense man :D
[12:08] <KanRiNiN_> jhutchins: XFS
[12:08] <nosredna> kruemel: ok, are you sure you are entering your key correctly?
[12:08] <KanRiNiN_> I am uid 100 I think
[12:09] <kruemel> nosredna: have you red it?
[12:09] <zimmo> for example
[12:09] <jhutchins> KanRiNiN_: If you pass a UID, it usually mounts the drive as owned by that user.
[12:09] <zimmo> the k3b software is not burning a cd here
[12:09] <nosredna> I can't really tell cause you *** out your key, so i'm not sure what you are saying.
[12:10] <maverick_> zimmo: What happens when you try burning?!
[12:10] <kruemel> nosredna: my key is: 1234567890123 so i type: sudo iwconfig wlan0 key 1234567890123, but when i ceck it with "iwconfig" there is shwon: key: 1234567890123000000000, you understand?
[12:11] <nosredna> kruemel: I understand.... just a second.
[12:11] <zimmo> maverick_ it says I have to configure to burn slowly
[12:12] <jhutchins> kruemel: so it's padding the key with zeros.
[12:12] <zimmo> it is a configuration error
[12:12] <kruemel> jhutchins: yes
[12:12] <maverick_> then i guess you need to reduce the speed of burning...
[12:12] <maverick_> maybe 4X
[12:13] <maverick_> zimmo: then i guess you need to reduce the speed of burning...
[12:13] <zimmo> yes, i tried
[12:13] <zimmo> maverick_: i did it but it is not a speed problem because i have never had it
[12:13] <zimmo> it is another error that i do not know
[12:13] <kruemel> jhutchins: but what to do, i only want 1234567890123 not 1234567890123000000 (iwconfig)
[12:14] <zimmo> i will try with another software first
[12:14] <jhutchins> kruemel: define a smaller key?
[12:14] <maverick_> zimmo: can you give me the exact message so i can google a little bit ? maybe i have luck today :D
[12:14] <jhutchins> kruemel: It's hard to say, sometimes the hardware wants things a certain way.
[12:15] <jhutchins> kruemel: I had a network that ended up with all hex keys because one piece wouldn't take a text key.