[01:12] <LaserJock> mpt: you around?
[02:11] <mpt> LaserJock, yo
[02:12] <LaserJock> mpt: I've been thinking about your thread on the Help System
[02:12] <LaserJock> perhaps the doc team needs to clarify it's purpose and scope
[02:13] <LaserJock> and also maybe come up with a list of topics we want to see
[02:13] <LaserJock> I'm wondering if it's a free-for-all we end up with documentation on just the things the writers were interested in
[02:14] <LaserJock> like how developers tend to keep the packages they like in better shape :-)
[02:14] <mpt> LaserJock, I was hoping that by now we'd be getting lists of search.ubuntu.com search queries people were doing, and be able to add/restructure help to answer those
[02:14] <mpt> but I guess it'll be a while before that happens
[02:16] <LaserJock> yes, I guess I would really like to see some sort of study done
[02:16] <LaserJock> or at least a decent survey or something
[02:16] <LaserJock> for one I'd like to know how much people use the system help
[02:17] <LaserJock> and the times they do, what are the looking for
[02:17] <mpt> yes
[02:17] <LaserJock> I suppose your search.ubuntu.com would address those?
[02:17] <mpt> well, not really
[02:18] <LaserJock> mmm
[02:18] <mpt> unless we also had a reliable count of the number of Ubuntu users
[02:18] <mpt> because that would be the denominator in the equation
[02:18] <LaserJock> well, I'd think even ball-park would work
[02:18] <LaserJock> mpt: does it know what IP made the request?
[02:19] <LaserJock> so that we can know if it's a few people that search a lot or a lot of people that search a little?
[02:19] <mpt> In theory it could, sure
[02:19] <mpt> just like any other Web site
[02:19] <mpt> Are you running Gutsy?
[02:22] <LaserJock> mpt: I am at home
[02:23] <nixternal> so am I
[02:23] <LaserJock> nixternal: do you have yelp?
[02:23] <nixternal> umm, I do, but the system that has vbox is currently in my lap torn apart
[02:24] <LaserJock> I just wondered
[02:24] <LaserJock> we got a new upstream yelp like yesterday
[02:24] <LaserJock> and it looks to me like all the frontpage work got wiped out
[02:25] <mpt> LaserJock, when you click the "Repeat the search" link at the bottom of search results, what URL do you get?
[02:25] <mpt> (disregarding that the URL doesn't load)
[02:29] <LaserJock> well, it's segfaulting right now
[02:29] <LaserJock> so I can't test right now
[02:35] <mpt> heh, ok
[02:37] <LaserJock> I can try it again when I get home
[02:38] <LaserJock> but at least over ssh it just segfaults after it can't find any documentation
[04:16] <LaserJock> mpt: home now
[04:17] <LaserJock> mpt: and joy of joys, yelp crashes if you search
[04:21] <mpt> w00t
[04:22] <mpt> LaserJock, does it fare any better if you temporarily uninstall Tracker?
[04:22] <LaserJock> hmm, not sure
[04:27] <LaserJock> mpt: no, that didn't seem to do anything
[04:28] <LaserJock> mpt: I was thinking it was something to do with scrollkeeper being removed, but I'm not sure how that would affect the search
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #131045 in ubuntu-doc "Change computer name page refers to Networking" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131045
[09:32] <CryptoMole> hello
[09:33] <CryptoMole> im george i recently joined the docs project
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #131076 in kubuntu-docs (main) ""Flash is not installed" at the end of the "Installing flash" -guide (Kubuntu docs)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131076
[11:34] <CIA-32> Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r4215 ubuntu/administrative/C/administrative.xml: Changed structure and updated content
[11:40] <jjesse> oh i thought doc.ubuntu was down
[11:51] <CIA-32> Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r4216 ubuntu/keeping-safe/C/keeping-safe.xml: Applying mpt's patch, with some minor changes
[12:14] <nixternal> jjesse: it is all back up now