[12:35] <cellofellow> what's the command to list files in an install debian package? It's a dpkg switch.
[12:37] <Pumpernickel> dpkg -L
[12:38] <cellofellow> thanks. Found it already. I really should check manpages first. ;)
[12:38] <Pumpernickel> Yup.
[12:44] <Lunis> how to i prevent xfce/gnome from autorunning Rhythmbox when I plug in my PSP?
[12:47] <Lunis> ^do
[01:20] <soberon> Good evening... Please an app to "see" the net and share docs.? as smb4
[01:21] <SrRaven> he?
[01:21] <soberon> I'm looking for an advice to install an aplication in xubuntu
[01:22] <soberon> for see the net
[01:22] <soberon> I installed samba
[01:22] <soberon> but i want some like smb4k
[02:04] <varu> > is there a way to use an onscreen keyboard to type the admin password in xfce?
[02:04] <varu>  it blocks out any other program
[02:08] <varu>  is there a way to use an onscreen keyboard to type the admin password in xfce?
[02:08] <cellofellow> I've heard bad stories about that.
[02:08] <varu> o
[02:09] <varu> gnome=mad accessible, but xfce=faster
[02:10] <cellofellow> sorry, yeah
[02:11] <cellofellow> XFCE doesn't have every feature under the sun, or it would just be gnome anyway.
[02:11] <varu> well ya
[02:11] <varu> just irks me lol
[02:54] <cellofellow> what packages should I install (on another box) to get full support for everything under the sun in MPlayer? I know I need w32codecs, but what else> (Oh, DVD not neccesary.)
[04:30] <Lunis> has anyone noticed that gksu lags xfce for about 2 mintues after you enter your sudo passy
[04:32] <cellofellow> not here
[04:32] <cellofellow> Lunis: what apps you trying to run?
[04:34] <cellofellow> mecannotread: what kind of nickname is that?
[04:35] <Lunis> cellofellow, anything i used gksu to run (on Gutsy) lags with the passy box up and everything grayed out for about 2 minutes when i enter a password and hit ok or press enter
[04:35] <cellofellow> hmm
[04:35] <cellofellow> maybe a bit buggy in Gutsy.
[04:36] <mecannotread> cellofellow well just say  me cannot read
[04:45] <Lunis> how do i clear the sudo cached password?
[04:46] <maxamillion> Lunis: the sudo password should be your password
[04:47] <Lunis> no i mean... when you enter the password you don't have to enter it again for like 5 minutes when you use sudo/gksu again
[04:47] <maxamillion> Lunis: if you need to change your password just type passwd at the command line
[04:48] <maxamillion> Lunis: ohhhh, that ... no clue i don't use sudo ... actually don't even have it installed
[04:48] <Lunis> :<
[04:48] <maxamillion> Lunis: i always start from a base install and just install what i need
[06:19] <Pumpernickel> Lunis: sudo -K
[06:19] <Lunis> Pumpernickel, :o thanks, both for the answer and for reading the backlogs :D
[07:09] <aaron> i have some freezing problems when i try to access my media hard drive
[07:16] <Jester45> ar
[07:16] <Jester45> o
[07:16] <Jester45> he gone
[07:16] <nextse7en> Hi folks, is there a graphical disk manager build into xubuntu?
[07:17] <Jester45> no
[07:17] <Jester45> if you meaning a partitioner
[07:17] <Jester45> gparted is a nice you can get from repos
[07:17] <nextse7en> Its not connected to the internet, unfortunaly.
[07:17] <nextse7en> What is the command then to format in FAT?
[07:18] <vidd_laptop> its on the install disk
[07:18] <nextse7en> Lol, doesn't have CD-ROM either.
[07:18] <vidd_laptop> ???
[07:18] <vidd_laptop> how did you install?
[07:18] <Jester45> can you get files from the internet
[07:18] <nextse7en> Its just a motherboard and HD mounted to the desk.
[07:18] <nextse7en> No, its a completly stand alone system.
[07:19] <Jester45> so no usb or anything like that
[07:20] <nextse7en> Well, It has usb.
[07:20] <Jester45> i think you can do mkfs -t ext3 /deb/hdaN
[07:20] <Jester45> to format over fat
[07:20] <Jester45> or try -t fat32 to make fat
[07:21] <Pumpernickel> -t vfat
[07:21] <Jester45> or for /dev/hdaN you can use the mount point
[07:22] <nextse7en> thanks for the help, I'll try it.
[07:22] <nextse7en> Do I need to mount first?
[07:23] <Pumpernickel> Errr... formatting a mounted partition?
[07:23] <Pumpernickel> Don't.
[07:23] <Jester45> listen to Pumpernickel
[07:26] <nextse7en>  Hi there, one more question, how do I find out where a hard drive is if it is unformatted or unpartitioned? Is there a way to query for all hard drives attached to the system?
[07:26] <nextse7en> weather or not they are mounted?
[07:28] <nextse7en> I can't tell if the drive is being recognized at all... its the slave on the primary IDE controller, but fdisk won't open dev/hdb1
[07:28] <Jester45> run df
[07:28] <Jester45> in a terminal
[07:29] <Jester45> i think that should unmounted partitions
[07:29] <Pumpernickel> /dev/sd* is the new naming convention for all drives.
[07:29] <Jester45> why did they do that
[07:29] <nextse7en> Hmm, I only see hdc1.  Odd that it would show the primard hard drive on the primary ide controller as hdc1
[07:30] <nextse7en> Very strange, the bios sees the drive, but df does not?
[07:33] <Pumpernickel> `df` only deals with filesystem stats.
[07:39] <Pumpernickel> `parted -il` is probably more like what you expected.
[08:31] <zero-9376> anyone know how i can use fusesmb on startup?
[08:32] <BrendanM> Hey, how do I configure multi-monitors (laptop screen and external) on Xubuntu?
[08:32] <zero-9376> ive tried putting fusesmb in /etc/rc.local but it tells me no such file or directory, also tried in fstab but got invalid option
[08:34] <BFTD> BrendanM what kind of graphics card do you have?
[08:43] <BrendanM> BFTD, it's an ATI Radeon Mobility M6
[08:43] <BFTD> yuck
[08:44] <BrendanM> yeah, it kind of bites
[08:44] <BFTD> I'm not sure, you'll most likely have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.confg
[08:44] <BrendanM> right now it shows the second monitor as a clone
[08:44] <BFTD> that's pretty good
[08:45] <BrendanM> Yeah, but I'd much rather have an extended desktop
[08:45] <BrendanM> Would it work better if I switched to the fglrx driver?
[08:46] <BFTD> not sure
[08:46] <BrendanM> I've heard that Xfce's window manager natively supports multiple monitors.
[08:46] <BFTD> it does
[08:46] <BFTD> for me anyways
[08:46] <BFTD> I never had to mess with that stuff
[08:46] <BrendanM> hmm
[08:46] <BrendanM> what kind of video card do you have?
[08:46] <BFTD> Intel
[08:46] <BFTD> its also a laptop
[08:47] <BFTD> I recommend nVidia
[08:47] <BFTD> best maker hands down
[08:47] <BFTD> for linux that is
[08:51] <BrendanM> no, totally
[08:51] <BrendanM> if I were buying/building a machine, I would certainly go with nVidia
[08:51] <BrendanM> unfortunately, I just have this crappy old laptop
[08:53] <BFTD> same
[08:55] <BFTD> hope I can get this lappy to work
[08:55] <BFTD> if not then I lose $60
[08:58] <BrendanM> you only paid $60 for yours?
[08:58] <BrendanM> nice
[08:58] <BrendanM> I paid like $150 for mine
[08:58] <BrendanM> what is yours?
[08:59] <BFTD> no
[08:59] <BFTD> I'm getting paid to ride this comp of viruses
[08:59] <BrendanM> oh, nice
[08:59] <BrendanM> just reformat reinstall
[09:00] <BrendanM> or is that not an option?
[09:00] <BrendanM> If you want a real nice free antivirus program, check out AntiVir XP
[09:00] <BrendanM> it's made by this german company, and it's free for personal use
[09:01] <BFTD> eh?
[09:02] <BFTD> I'll call her up
[09:02] <BFTD> tell her to reformat
[09:02] <BrendanM> oh, I thought you were actually personally working on it
[09:02] <BrendanM> does she have an AV program on there?
[09:02] <BFTD> I am
[09:02] <BFTD> only three
[09:03] <BFTD> Avast, AVG, and norton
[09:03] <BFTD> plus ad aware and spybot
[09:03] <BrendanM> oh, that's bad news. You should never run more than one simultaneously
[09:03] <BrendanM> have you tried scanning in safe mode?
[09:03] <BFTD> I hate running any
[09:03] <BFTD> yeah
[09:03] <BFTD> it took me a few min's to remember how to get there though
[09:03] <BrendanM> HijackThis is really useful for tracking down malware too
[09:04] <BFTD> this thing is keeping firefox from working, and is restricting IE from using gmail and yahoo mail
[09:05] <BrendanM> dang, even in safe mode?
[09:06] <BrendanM> You could boot from a Linux Live CD and then run ClamAV on it?
[09:09] <BFTD> which live cd has that on it?
[09:09] <BFTD> and no not in safe mode
[09:09] <BFTD> it works fine then
[09:10] <BrendanM> You could "install" it from repos on an Ubuntu live disc
[09:10] <BrendanM> but there's lots of linux diagnostic CDs out there, too
[09:11] <BrendanM> It sounds like there's a browser hijacker. I'd use hijackthis or I think sysinternals has a tool that looks at startup processes
[09:11] <BFTD> ah
[09:11] <BFTD> ok
[09:11] <BFTD> I'll do that later
[09:11] <BrendanM> ah, it's called AutoRuns: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/AutoRuns.mspx
[09:11] <BrendanM> that's M$'s site, but it's made by sysinternals
[09:13] <BrendanM> er, I guess sysinternals got bought out by M$
[09:13] <BFTD> hrm
[09:13] <BrendanM> that sucks
[09:13] <BFTD> whta time is it wherever you are?
[09:15] <BrendanM> 12:15
[09:16] <BFTD> AM?
[09:18] <BFTD> well
[09:18] <BFTD> gonna go
[09:18] <BFTD> its also 12:18 here...and I need to do...something tomorrow
[09:18] <BFTD> not sure what though
[10:19] <Cordik> Hi!
[10:19] <Cordik> Has anybody tried running xubuntu on a Asus Digimatrix?
[11:39] <Rockinghorse> Rockinghorse is gone...but he'll be baack...
[11:45] <mrpok> Heyhey
[11:57] <mrpok> Is Opera available for xubuntu? I can't find it in apt-cache or Synaptics.
[12:18] <loswillios> hi
[12:41] <loswillios> I'm trying the whole day to get numlockx to start at boottime without luck
[12:42] <loswillios> I think the problem is, that I don't use a desktop manager like gdm
[12:42] <loswillios> instead, I have automatic login via /etc/even.d/tty1 "exec /sbin/rungetty tty1 --autologin USER" enabled
[12:45] <loswillios> anyone an idea where I have to put the numlockx call?
[12:46] <loswillios> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc or /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc doesn't work. I think it's because the scripts were run as root, and not as a user
[01:24] <Pumpernickel> mrpok: Yes it is.  You can either get a .deb from their site, or use the feisty-commercial repository.
[01:28] <Pumpernickel> loswillios: Is that a console login, or are you launching X somewhere along the way?
[01:42] <loswillios> Pumpernickel: finally I got it. I put everything into .xinitrc and now it works
[02:19] <bjwebb> hello
[02:20] <zials> hi
[02:20] <bjwebb> how would i boot into xubuntu from dsl's grub?
[02:31] <TheSheep> bjwebb: press 'e' on any entry and type the paths to the kernel and initrd
[02:33] <bjwebb> hmm would that be like /mnt/hda1/boot/... because its dsl's grub
[02:36] <TheSheep> bjwebb: ah, if it's on another partition, then you also need to add 'root (hdX, Y)'
[02:36] <TheSheep> bjwebb: where X and Y are the disk number and partition number
[02:36] <TheSheep> bjwebb: counting from 0
[02:36] <bjwebb> a like hda, 0
[02:37] <TheSheep> (hd0, 0)
[02:37] <bjwebb> oh rite
[02:37] <TheSheep> bjwebb: and the path is relative to that partition, that is /boot/foo
[02:38] <bjwebb> yeah
[02:38] <bjwebb> okay
[03:07] <Ben_Cs> hello
[03:08] <Ben_Cs> does xfce in xubuntu 7.04 mount automatically usb devices?
[03:08] <Ben_Cs> and ntfs partitions?
[03:10] <zials> it does... for me, in any case
[03:11] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: you can enable automounting of usb devices in thunar->edit->preferences->advanced->volume manager
[03:13] <Ben_Cs> currently i'm using gnome (ubuntu) but i have xfce in college and i like it, except it's an old version and featureless. my comp is strong enough to handle gnome and kde (i like gnome better) but i was thinking about xfce
[03:14] <pleia2> Ben_Cs: I think you'll be happy with the version in 7.04 :)
[03:14] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: do you recommend xfce only to slow computers, or do you think it's a better window manager overall?
[03:14] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: I use it on my main desktop
[03:14] <pleia2> Ben_Cs: depends on the person, I think it's better overall ;) but appreciate the opinions of others
[03:14] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: I can't get used to any other desktop environment
[03:15] <Ben_Cs> does it have a keyboard layout changer?
[03:15] <zials> yup
[03:16] <zials> though, keyboard layout is more or less tied to X instead of Xfce
[03:16] <Ben_Cs> hmmmmm, so i just synaptic for xubuntu-desktop?
[03:16] <zials> yup
[03:16] <Ben_Cs> ok
[03:17] <Ben_Cs> does it have influence over gnome?
[03:20] <Ben_Cs> well synaptic says it'll remove gnome when installing xfce. i can avoid that through apt-get probably, but what the heck, i'll learn xfce better this way
[03:35] <Ben_Cs> wow the managment of xfce has change for good!
[03:39] <Ben_Cs> do i need special xfce themes? or gnome themes will do?
[03:39] <pleia2> you'll need xfce themes, but there are LOTS installed by default
[03:41] <Ben_Cs> ok
[03:41] <Ben_Cs> does xubuntu have an art manager (for themes to download) like gnome?
[03:42] <pleia2> no
[03:44] <Ben_Cs> so i have to download them manually
[03:44] <Ben_Cs> ?
[03:44] <pleia2> yeah, xfce-look.org is a good site for that
[03:47] <Ben_Cs> when i go to keyboard settings and disable in layouts: use x configuration, and add another layout, it doesn't remember it and comes back to: use x configuration? so how do i add another keyboard layout?
[03:52] <bjwebb> hi
[03:55] <loswillios> hi guys
[03:55] <bjwebb> hi
[03:55] <bjwebb> hmm why is xubuntu slower than dsl?
[03:56] <loswillios> Where can I find newer packages of gnumeric? There is a bug in 1.7.8 which was fixed in 1.7.11
[03:56] <loswillios> I'm using Xubuntu-7.04
[03:57] <loswillios> I tried feisty-backports already but it isn't there
[03:57] <bjwebb> hmm doesn't seem to be anybody else here
[03:58] <bjwebb> is there a gnumeric website that might offer .deb packages?
[03:58] <loswillios> unfortunately they don't offer binaries
[03:59] <bjwebb> hmm
[04:02] <loswillios> uh, it's in math
[04:03] <loswillios> bjwebb: you think it's possible to install gutsy's gnumeric?
[04:04] <bjwebb> it might be
[04:04] <bjwebb> it could be worth a try
[04:04] <bjwebb> what about in the debian repos?
[04:27] <Ben_Cs> i downloaded a theme and copied it to ~/.themes  and copied it to /usr/share/themes but still don't have it in User Interface Settings. please help
[04:27] <bjwebb> Ben_Cs: im not really an epert, and everyone else seems to be quiet atm
[04:28] <Ben_Cs> ok
[04:35] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: di you unpack it?
[04:35] <TheSheep> did*
[04:35] <Ben_Cs> yes
[04:35] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: is it a gtk theme or an xfce theme?
[04:36] <Ben_Cs> there are tzr.gz files inside. unpack them too?
[04:36] <Ben_Cs> downloaded it from xfce-look
[04:36] <Ben_Cs> i thinl it's gtk though
[04:36] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: you must have downloaded a pack of several themes
[04:36] <Ben_Cs> bundle pack
[04:36] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: every one of them should be unpacked to .themes separately
[04:37] <Ben_Cs> one is "controls" one is "window" and one is "login" still separetly?
[04:37] <mrpok_> Opera has IRC built in.
[04:37] <mrpok_> Neat. Fluffware, but neat.
[04:37] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: that's weird
[04:38] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: is there a gtkrc file somewhere?
[04:38] <TheSheep> mrpok_: it even has a torrent client build in
[04:40] <Ben_Cs> no. but in instructions, it says how to install it in gnome menus
[04:41] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: if there is no gtkrc then it's not a gtk theme and cannot be used with xfce
[04:41] <Ben_Cs> weird it was in xfce-look
[04:45] <Ben_Cs> thesheep: where do i should copy themes to? ~/.themes  or /usr/share/themes?
[04:46] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: to ~/.themes if you only need it for the single user, to /usr/share/themes if you want it to be available for all users on the system
[04:47] <TheSheep> the latter requires root priviledges, of course
[04:47] <Ben_Cs> nope. just for me
[04:47] <Ben_Cs> thanks
[04:52] <mrpok_> TheSheep: Yeah, I like that, it's one of the main reasons I went for it.
[04:53] <TheSheep> mrpok_: soon you won't need any other program, next logical steps are multimedia player and office suite ;)
[04:54] <mrpok_> Heck, who needs xfce?
[04:55] <TheSheep> mrpok_: "Opera: because other browsers are too simple."
[04:56] <mrpok_> heh
[04:56] <mrpok_> I like it, though. It's slick, fast, intuitive...
[04:57] <mrpok_> It hasn't crashed on me yet.
[04:57] <TheSheep> mrpok_: the word "intuitive" has no meaning in computer context
[04:57] <mrpok_> You would call it something else?
[04:58] <TheSheep> mrpok_: "similar to what I am already accustomed to" fits in its place
[04:58] <TheSheep> mrpok_: but this depends on the actual user
[04:58] <TheSheep> mrpok_: obviously, if you use opera all the time, you'll find it intuitive
[04:59] <mrpok_> You have a point
[04:59] <mrpok_> How about if I said it has a simple workflow?
[04:59] <mrpok_> :)
[05:00] <TheSheep> wget has simplier ;)
[05:01] <mrpok_> What's wget?
[05:02] <TheSheep> dags
[05:03] <mrpok_> erm?
[05:03] <TheSheep> Do A Google Search :)
[05:07] <mrpok_> Where's the personal touch in that! ;)
[05:07] <mrpok_> I'm still trying to decide whether I like Opera Widgets
[05:07] <Ben_Cs[away] > well i extracted to gtk themes to ~/.themes and Window Manager doesn't see them. extracted to /usr/share/themes  , didn't help as well. any way to make the Window Manager refresh it's list?
[05:11] <Ben_Cs> oh. finally. i figured it out
[06:16] <Ben_Cs> hello
[06:17] <Ben_Cs> please tell me: do you prefer to leave only the buttom panel, or you use the top one as well?
[06:17] <vidd_laptop> i only use one panel....but i customiz it with items from both
[06:18] <Ben_Cs> ok
[06:18] <Ben_Cs> i try to, but i don't want it to bee to big
[06:18] <vidd_laptop> ?
[06:19] <Ben_Cs> damn. i can't find how to do cool things with the pannel: like make it transperent and use semi transperent icons etc. you know how?
[06:19] <vidd_laptop> yeah....
[06:20] <Ben_Cs> have a link?
[06:20] <vidd_laptop> turn the functionality for it on in >applications>settings>window manager teeks
[06:20] <vidd_laptop> *tweaks
[06:20] <Ben_Cs> BTW it seems to me as if xfce is a bit slower than gnome. weird.
[06:20] <Ben_Cs> ok
[06:20] <Ben_Cs> turned on
[06:20] <vidd_laptop> its your imagination =] 
[06:21] <vidd_laptop> now you can customize the panel for transparency\
[06:21] <Ben_Cs> ok
[06:24] <Ben_Cs> but i don't see an option explicit for panel opacity
[06:24] <Ben_Cs> transperacy
[06:25] <vidd_laptop> under the tweaks....did you turn on "enable display compositing" on the "compositor" tab?
[06:38] <Ben_Cs_> is there a way to make a panel transperent, but the icons on it opaque?
[06:39] <vidd> no idea
[06:40] <vidd> =] 
[06:49] <Ben_Cs> what do i have to delete to reset xfce to default
[06:49] <Ben_Cs> ?
[06:50] <vidd> umm....
[06:51] <vidd> items in the ./config folder
[07:02] <Lunis`sleep> I mentioned this before but I think it's worth rementioning for anyone who hasn't already heard...
[07:02] <Lunis> Has anyone had a problem with GKSU in XFCE? Mine locks up X for about a minute and a half to two minutes after entering the SUDO password and click ok or hitting enter
[07:03] <TheSheep> Lunis: yes, I had similar problems, only shorter
[07:03] <TheSheep> Lunis: in gutsy
[07:03] <Lunis> TheSheep, did you solve?
[07:03] <Lunis> TheSheep, yeah, Gutsy here as well :)
[07:04] <TheSheep> Lunis: I didn't
[07:06] <Lunis> i guess the fastest temporary fix would to be to move gksu/gksudo outside of PATH and make gksu/gksudo point to a script that will bring up a terminal with sudo :x
[07:30] <ablomen> hmm does anyone know where i can get good xfce window borders from? there is no good theme std in xubuntu that works good with the ubuntu studio theme
[07:30] <ablomen> or any dark theme i know for that mather
[07:30] <ablomen> becouse almost all themes take the "second" color of the theme
[07:33] <hyper_ch> hiho
[07:33] <Lunis> ablomen, go to customize.org and get to a search box, search for keywords xfce and gaia
[07:33] <Lunis> ablomen, better yet, i'll give you a direct link
[07:34] <Lunis> ablomen, http://customize.org/xfce that's the best place to start looking. I like gaia but GSM is awesome with ubuntu studio (i think)
[07:35] <Lunis> ablomen, most people don't know about this part of cutomize.org because XFCE isn't listed in the Browse tab
[07:35] <ablomen> Lunis, cool thanks! :)
[07:35] <Lunis> ablomen, glad i could help ^^
[07:35] <ablomen> thats a great site, looks better then xfcelook :)
[07:37] <hyper_ch> allmighty-TheSheep: online?
[07:37] <Lunis> cutsomize.org is home to some of the best looking themes but some of the best theme artists out there. and most of the stuff gets crossported if it's any good. great news for us xfce'rs
[07:39] <ablomen> Lunis, ah yeah the gaia thing looks great :)
[07:39] <ablomen> the close etc icons are on the wrong side of the bar though but i guess i can get used to that :)
[07:39] <Lunis> ablomen, the full theme mixed with the watery GAIA backgroud (gaia is a huge community project, gaia.customize.org) and the black cursors
[07:40] <Lunis> ablomen, you can change them, i'll help you once you have it installed
[07:40] <ablomen> its installed :) but i cant change the bar icons in the window manager thingy
[07:40] <Lunis> ablomen,  you have to do it manually
[07:41] <ablomen> ah :)\
[07:41] <Lunis> ~/.theme/gaia/xfce/themerc i think
[07:41] <Lunis> correction
[07:42] <Lunis> ~/.themes/GAIA/xfwm4/themrc
[07:42] <ablomen> ah the button layout and offset?
[07:42] <ablomen> ah no soorry its just the |
[07:42] <Lunis> layout specifically
[07:42] <ablomen> ok iv got it :)
[07:43] <ablomen> thanks!
[07:43] <Lunis> by default the minimize button is in the middle and maximize is last, which annoys me. i had to change it :P
[07:43] <Lunis> np
[08:20] <timposey> TheSheeo: are you here?
[08:20] <timposey> TheSheep:  are you here?
[08:30] <TheSheep> timposey: yes?
[08:31] <timposey> TheSheep:  I don't know if you remember me from the other day. I was doing the xubuntu install on a machine and having problems
[08:32] <timposey> I finally got a full install without any problems but this computer seems to simply not looking for this hard drive at all for boot up, do you have any suggestions, I have checked and rechecked bios settings, unless there is something set in there that I can't get to..
[08:33] <TheSheep> timposey: is this drive larger than 32MB?
[08:33] <timposey> TheSheep:  Yes it is a 4.3 GB
[08:36] <TheSheep> sorry, I mean 32GB :)
[08:36] <TheSheep> timposey: you can try setting the bootable flag on teh system partition
[08:36] <TheSheep> timposey: this is an IDe disk?
[08:36] <TheSheep> IDE?
[08:36] <timposey> Yes
[08:36] <TheSheep> timposey: and you set the computer to boot from it in bios?
[08:37] <timposey> I just let the program do the guided partition so I figured that the bootable flag was set.. I did set to boot from the HDD in Bios and the bios recognizes the drive.
[08:39] <wepeel> hi all. I recently installed xubuntu 7.04 on my old laptop. My desktop is running ubuntu 6.10...and there's a way to place folders on the desktop which open via ssh on remote machines. How do I set something like this up in Xubuntu?
[08:39] <TheSheep> timposey: the grub is instlled?
[08:40] <ablomen> wepeel, google for sshfs :)
[08:40] <wepeel> ablomen, thanks
[08:40] <ablomen> np, good luck :)
[08:40] <timposey> TheSheep:  It says that it installed it at the end of the installation.
[08:40] <TheSheep> :/
[08:41] <wepeel> ablomen, hehe, I'll need it. On ubuntu, I'd just go to "places" than work from there
[08:41] <ablomen> yeah thats nautilus, thunar doesnt have that (you have to give some stuff away for performance :) )
[08:42] <ablomen> but sshfs is easy enough, there are a lot of walktroughs, and all the apps can use the mounted dir and files in it than, which isnt the case with the way nautilus mounts them
[08:43] <wepeel> ablomen, ah, I get it. Can I use sshfs through an icon on the Desktop?
[08:43] <wepeel> i.e. set a launcher?
[08:44] <ablomen> well i think it will show up becouse its a mounted fs other then the root fs (just like cd's, windows filesystems, cameras etc do) otherwise you can just create a shortcut to the location the ssh fs is mounted to
[08:44] <ablomen> so yeah :)
[08:44] <wepeel> gotcha
[08:44] <ablomen> and you can add it to places etc :)
[08:45] <ablomen> the only thing your going to have to figure out is how to mount it at boot, but i think you can just add it to fstab if my memmory serves me right
[08:46] <TheSheep> timposey: what is the exact message you get when the computer tries to boot?
[08:46] <wepeel> ablomen, hurm, I'm having a tough time already with it
[08:46] <ablomen> heh whats the problem>
[08:46] <ablomen> ?
[08:47] <wepeel> oh, it really does want the mountpoint...I just guessed it works like ssh :)
[08:48] <TheSheep> wepeel: that would be scp
[08:48] <ablomen> just do "sudo mkdir /media/ssh & sudo chown USERNAME /media/ssh" or whatever :)
[08:48] <ablomen> or listen to TheSheep :)
[08:48] <ablomen> thats a better idea i guess :P
[08:50] <TheSheep> wepeel: if it's just single files you want to copy, you can use scp just like you would use normal cp. only prefix the remote files with the host name and colon, like  myhost:somedir/myfile
[08:51] <wepeel> Yeah, I use scp while ssh'ed into my home machine, but I was just looking for the convenience of having a remote folder I could access whenever I needed something
[08:51] <wepeel> chalk one up for nautilus, I suppose
[08:52] <ablomen> wepeel, sshfs then :)
[08:52] <TheSheep> wepeel: ah, that's sshfs :)
[08:52] <TheSheep> wepeel: you need to have the 'fuse' module loaded, I think
[08:53] <wepeel> well, here's what I'm getting so far
[08:53] <wepeel> basically, i sshfs user@host:dir mountpoint
[08:53] <TheSheep> !pastebin | wepeel
[08:53] <ubotu> wepeel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:53] <wepeel> but I don't know what to put in mountpoint
[08:53] <TheSheep> wepeel: any empty directory
[08:53] <TheSheep> wepeel: owned by you
[08:53] <ablomen> wepeel, a dir you make in /home/username or /media
[08:54] <wepeel> Sorry, was that line too long?
[08:54] <TheSheep> wepeel: if you use a directory in your ~/Desktop, then you don't even need to make a shortcut
[08:54] <ablomen> TheSheep, hmm good one
[08:54] <TheSheep> wepeel: no, it wans't too long. I thought you were going to paste some logs :)
[08:54] <wepeel> nono
[08:54] <wepeel> I wouldn't do taht :)
[08:55] <wepeel> wait, a directiry on the machine I'm connecting from
[08:55] <wepeel> I'm an idiot
[08:55] <TheSheep> the first one is what you connect (remote directory), the second one (the mountpoint) is where you want it connected
[08:55] <TheSheep> that is, a local directory
[08:56] <wepeel> failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied
[08:56] <ablomen> wepeel, sudo
[08:56] <TheSheep> wepeel: you need to add yourself to the 'fuse' group
[08:56] <TheSheep> ablomen: nah
[08:56] <ablomen> ah or that
[08:56] <ablomen> my bad
[08:57] <wepeel> same result
[08:57] <ablomen> wepeel, you need to log in again or reboot, one of those too
[08:58] <TheSheep> wepeel: unfortunately, you have to relog after changing group membership for it to take effect
[08:58] <wepeel> ok, be right back
[08:58] <timposey> TheSheep:  Sorry, I was away for a minute... I get the message the disk is not bootable, please place a bootable disk in drive a: those may not be the exact words but I am having problems with the power supply right now and cannot get it up but that is a common message.
[08:59] <TheSheep> timposey: I think I don't have any more ideas :(
[09:00] <timposey> TheSheep: me either.. I hate to say it but I'm going to give up on this one..
[09:00] <ablomen> timposey, what is the problem exactly?
[09:00] <ablomen> timposey, the error you get is from a broken mbr afaik
[09:01] <ablomen> alteast thats the reason i had that problem
[09:01] <timposey> ablomen:  a broken who?
[09:01] <ablomen> master boot record, the part of the hd where the bootloader is on
[09:02] <ablomen> atleast the link to it
[09:02] <TheSheep> ablomen: but grub is supposed to set it up correctly
[09:02] <wepeel> I'm still getting permission denied errors
[09:02] <TheSheep> timposey: maybe you could try with lilo instead?
[09:02] <ablomen> TheSheep, yeah i know, thats the weird thing, i still have a hd in my main pc which works fine as second hd but to boot from it doesnt work
[09:03] <TheSheep> wepeel: are you mounting it in a directory you own?
[09:03] <wepeel> ~/DEsktop should work right?
[09:03] <ablomen> wepeel, no
[09:03] <TheSheep> actually iy should work, but funny things might happen :)
[09:04] <ablomen> wepeel, you have to make a folder in the ~/Desktop folder
[09:04] <ablomen> TheSheep, heh yeah
[09:04] <timposey> ablomen:  Could it be something that the bios is looking for on the drive that is not there.  Before I repartioned the drive it would boot to a version of redhat.. and it was using lilo
[11:53] <stuart-> woo
[11:53] <stuart-> it looks quieter here
[11:53] <cellofellow> yes, very
[11:54] <stuart-> well i find it unfair that xp performs better than gnome on the same pc. considering linux > windows
[11:54] <cellofellow> so, if you are using Xubuntu, I'd scrap Totem altogether and use MPlayer.
[11:54] <stuart-> which is why i'm on xubuntu
[11:54] <stuart-> cellofellow, getting it now.
[11:54] <cellofellow> my PC would be slowish with Win98. :)
[11:54] <cellofellow> actually, no, pretty quick with 98, but slow with XP.
[11:55] <stuart-> 98 SE was the best windows ever
[11:55] <cellofellow> Sort of missed that one, I've used 98 and ME and 2000 though.
[11:55] <stuart-> ME was the worst, imho
[11:55] <cellofellow> Before 1998 or 1999 my family had Apple stuff.
[11:56] <cellofellow> My mom still uses ME, and I keep trying to get her to use Xubuntu on that old lappy.
[11:57] <cellofellow> for MPlayer, I'd install mplayer, mplayer-skins, libxine-extracodecs, and w32codecs.
[11:57] <stuart-> cellofellow, any idea why it says error opening video/output device?
[11:58] <cellofellow> right click the app (like xmms) and choose Preferences, and under Video use xv
[11:58] <cellofellow> or something similar.
[11:59] <cellofellow> it usually ties to use xmga for some reason, which only works on Matrox MGA video cards.
[11:59] <stuart-> cellofellow, works. nice
[12:00] <stuart-> cellofellow, w32codecs aren't installable though, any idea where'd i get windowscodecs?
[12:00] <cellofellow> one sec... getting you a link
[12:00] <stuart-> coo
[12:00] <cellofellow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[12:01] <cellofellow> I use VLC for playing DVDs if you have a DVD player. MPlayer works but doesn't do menus.
[12:01] <stuart-> thanks
[12:02] <cellofellow> if you running 64bit version, use w64codecs of course.
[12:03] <stuart-> w32codecs has no installation candidate
[12:03] <stuart-> cellofellow, oh sry. gotta update
[12:04] <cellofellow> :-)
[12:04] <cellofellow> you should have just copy/pasted the code from that little box under Adding the Repositories.
[12:05] <Jester45> w32codecs is not in repo for licensing reasons you can get from a 3rd party repo or just download a /deb
[12:05] <cellofellow> I'm getting him the Medibuntu repo.
[12:05] <stuart-> ok bath while downloading
[12:05] <stuart-> brb
[12:08] <stuart-> cellofellow, .wmv plays smooth on your pc with just w32codecs and mplayer?
[12:08] <cellofellow> stuart-: yeah
[12:10] <Jester45> stuart-, does it not play smooth on yours?
[12:11] <stuart-> Jester45, used to, but that was on ubuntu. haven't tried yet
[12:11] <stuart-> hm, deluge isn't in apt-get.
[12:11] <cellofellow> nope, try getdeb.net
[12:11] <Jester45> no
[12:11] <Jester45> get it from the deluge website getdeb's is a version old
[12:12] <Jester45> deluge-torrent.org/
[12:12] <stuart-> neat. thanks.
[12:14] <stuart-> what's the java6-sdk package again?
[12:14] <cellofellow> development stuff. compiler, etc.
[12:14] <stuart-> i mean the name for apt-get
[12:15] <Jester45> stuart-, if you just want to run java try sun-java6-jre
[12:15] <stuart-> Jester45, what about for firefox
[12:15] <cellofellow> stuart-: it's sun-javaN-jdk, where N is a number either 5 or 6.
[12:15] <Jester45> i will look
[12:15] <Jester45> 4 also
[12:15] <cellofellow> stuart-: sudn-javaN-plugin for firefox stuff.
[12:16] <Jester45> yea thats what i was thinking
[12:16] <stuart-> okay. 35MB d/l. now i REALLY wanna bathe. brb
[12:17] <cellofellow> how slow is your inet?
[12:17] <stuart-> dsl, around 30k/sec
[12:17] <cellofellow> mine too
[12:18] <Jester45> and flash is
[12:18] <cellofellow> flashplugin-nonfree
[12:19] <Jester45> flashplugin-nonfree
[12:19] <Jester45> darn
[12:19] <cellofellow> that package actually just downloads the flash player from macromedia anyway, with wget.
[12:19] <Jester45> and installes
[12:20] <cellofellow> yeah, which is why it's a nice thing.
[12:20] <cellofellow> Only trouble is, I'm still contemplating how to install it on an offline box.
[12:21] <cellofellow> I copied the deb package and the downloaded tarball to a USB drive.
[12:22] <Jester45> download it store it and use your host file to map macromedia's site to localhost
[12:22] <Jester45> so that it downloads from localhost and not the real ip
[12:23] <Jester45> but thats a lot of work