| LaserJock | stgraber: your welcome email has : "Than you for registering an Ubuntu ISO Testing account!" should be Thank | 12:31 |
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| stgraber | oh, both pochu and heno didn't notice this one :) | 12:32 |
| stgraber | thanks | 12:32 |
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| LaserJock | stgraber: you testing amd64 or i386? | 12:59 |
| stgraber | i386 | 12:59 |
| LaserJock | k, me too | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | I'm doing one Server Addon check right now | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | I'll have to wait until I get home in a couple hours to do the WinFOSS check | 01:00 |
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| nrayever | hi | 04:49 |
| nrayever | i was wondering if anyone had ever tried to boot edubuntu in terminal using a small hd? | 04:50 |
| nrayever | anybody?? | 05:02 |
| LaserJock | I haven't | 05:08 |
| LaserJock | and I'm thinking most people are asleep right now | 05:09 |
| LaserJock | nrayever: you could certainly try the edubuntu-users mailing list | 05:09 |
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| sbalneav | Evening all | 05:36 |
| LaserJock | hi sbalneav | 05:49 |
| sbalneav | Hey! | 05:51 |
| sbalneav | Ollie get a tribe out the door? | 05:51 |
| sbalneav | I am sooo beat | 05:51 |
| sbalneav | We got 8 yards of soil today. | 05:51 |
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| sbalneav | Me and the kids got it all spread around. | 05:51 |
| sbalneav | My back hurts. | 05:51 |
| sbalneav | I'm cold, and there are wolves after me. | 05:52 |
| sbalneav | Now my youngest son's talking smack about my typing. | 05:52 |
| sbalneav | It's a tough old life. | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: no, tribe 4 had some issues | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | the Desktop CDs were oversized | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | so we ended up having to take out tuxpaint | 06:11 |
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| LaserJock | sbalneav: there was also some apt issue that messed up LTSP stuff I think | 06:20 |
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| melinate | anyone around who knows how to set up the DHCP server? | 07:44 |
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| ktama | Hello, I am a beginner edubuntu and English. I have a question. | 10:01 |
| ktama | I made thin client environment to install ltsp-server and openssh-server. | 10:02 |
| ktama | the client can not find USB flash memory, How do I solve this problem? | 10:05 |
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| ogra | ktama, did yu use that with the edubuntu server isntall or was that system istalled from a liveCD ? | 10:35 |
| ktama | I install ubuntu-japanese-localize version, and I refer to edubuntu serever made by my teacher | 10:40 |
| ktama | I am sorry, I am poor at English | 10:41 |
| ktama | I use synaptic packege manager to install ltsp-server and openssh-server. | 10:42 |
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| dhq | which is the best typing tutor | 10:52 |
| ogra | ktama, edubuntu server comes with ltsp set up and installed out of the box already | 10:55 |
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| ktama | OK, Mr.ogra. I install edubuntu server. thank you! | 10:57 |
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| edubuntugirl | man that was a long sleep | 12:19 |
| ogra | edubuntugirl, morning dear bot :) | 12:20 |
| edubuntugirl | ogra: *blink* | 12:20 |
| encompass | if anyone wants to try my little GSoC program, give me a message and I can show you how to get it started. http://launchpad.net/pystart | 12:31 |
| encompass | needs some testing and I have a few questions for the people that use it. | 12:32 |
| encompass | ogra: edubuntugirl is a bot? | 12:34 |
| edubuntugirl | encompass: yep. | 12:38 |
| highvoltage | encompass: nice logo for pystart. what does pystart do? | 12:39 |
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| highvoltage | (public holiday here, just woke up an hour ago :) ) | 12:40 |
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| encompass | highvoltage: doesn't it say? It is a program to help teachers teach python | 12:49 |
| encompass | yeah | 12:49 |
| === encompass read's the line below the first one :P | ||
| encompass | highvoltage: if you need help setting it up I can help you | 12:51 |
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| Watersevenub | Is there any updated page similar to https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstalledApplications?action=show&redirect=ApplicationSelection? which shows the applications of Edubuntu? | 03:08 |
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| ogra | Watersevenub, i dont think so ... we worked on a spec for a voting mechanism etc but thats not there yet | 03:58 |
| ogra | Watersevenub, http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.gutsy/files the union of desktop and live should give you a pretty detailed list though | 03:59 |
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| Watersevenub | ogra, thank you. | 04:00 |
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| === mode/#edubuntu [+o ogra] by ChanServ | ||
| sbalneav | Morning all | 04:04 |
| juliux | morning sbalneav | 04:04 |
| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | gutsy (7.10) Tribe-4 released ! test the development iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-4/ | ||
| ogra | sbalneav, good timing ;) | 04:05 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [-o ogra] by ogra | ||
| sbalneav | For showing up? | 04:06 |
| ogra | yeah | 04:06 |
| sbalneav | Whats up? | 04:06 |
| ogra | 2mins before a release is good timing i think ;) | 04:06 |
| sbalneav | lol | 04:06 |
| ogra | one bad ldm bug showed up bte | 04:07 |
| sbalneav | \o/ for me | 04:07 |
| ogra | *btw | 04:07 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, that one's already fixed in my tree | 04:07 |
| ogra | bug 131259 ? | 04:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 131259 in ltsp "[Gutsy] LDM doesn't disconnect ssh on logout" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131259 | 04:07 |
| sbalneav | but other things are broken, so don't sync at the moment | 04:07 |
| ogra | i wont | 04:07 |
| ogra | i'll care for Q-Funk's LinuxBIOS stuff now | 04:07 |
| sbalneav | yeah, squashed that 2 days ago. | 04:08 |
| ogra | and want to try to get something basic out of the ltsp-manager code | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | Oh, excellend. | 04:08 |
| ogra | so we have *something* in gutsy as base for LTS | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | I've got the lang menu populating now, I just need to get the session menu going. | 04:08 |
| ogra | francis is already busy writing specs :) | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | :) | 04:09 |
| ogra | i'D like to substitute locale names with a table like gdm uses | 04:09 |
| ogra | even thats ugly code, it will look a lot better for the user | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | yeah, that'd be nice. Since we're going to get all the basics in for this release, it'll WORK, we'll get the polish on for the lts release. | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | I'm VERY excited about gutsy | 04:10 |
| ogra | (gdm has a translation table so de_DE becomes "German") | 04:10 |
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| ogra | it totally limits the set of locales but is way way cleaner | 04:10 |
| sbalneav | We can just steal^H^H^H^H^Huse that code. | 04:10 |
| ogra | yeah | 04:10 |
| sbalneav | ogra++ | 04:11 |
| sbalneav | I hurt. | 04:11 |
| sbalneav | I moved 8 yards of soil ysterday. | 04:11 |
| ogra | what i'D like in gutsy already is a hardcoded xterm session as fallback | 04:11 |
| sbalneav | Oh, yeah, that'll be in there. | 04:11 |
| ogra | ouch | 04:11 |
| sbalneav | That's like an entire DUMPTRUCK full | 04:12 |
| ogra | susie bougth a handmower for me ... to get rid of my belly | 04:12 |
| sbalneav | one. Wheelbarrow. At. A. Time. | 04:12 |
| ogra | now i have to mow 600sqm once a week with that thing | 04:12 |
| sbalneav | Well, that'll make your legs an back strong. Won't do much for your belly. :) | 04:13 |
| ogra | well, feels rather like its "good" for my sholders | 04:13 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, it'll be an upper body workout. | 04:14 |
| ogra | yep | 04:14 |
| ogra | well | 04:14 |
| ogra | at least i'm forced to move ... | 04:14 |
| sbalneav | What did you have before? A push gas/electric, or a riding mower? | 04:14 |
| ogra | electric | 04:14 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, same here. | 04:15 |
| sbalneav | I hate gas mowers | 04:15 |
| sbalneav | too ruddy nosy, and bad for the environment. | 04:15 |
| ogra | the ground isnt big enough for a gas one imho | 04:15 |
| ogra | susie would like one | 04:15 |
| juliux | ogra, have fu wiht your handmower | 04:15 |
| juliux | fun | 04:15 |
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| ogra | juliux, i already had ... (can hardly lift my arms) | 04:15 |
| sbalneav | I'll reassign the ldm bug to me, and mark it in progress. | 04:16 |
| ogra | oki | 04:16 |
| sbalneav | and post a comment. | 04:16 |
| sbalneav | Could you mark bug #109270 as a wishlist? | 04:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 109270 in ltsp "[FR] user list in ldm" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109270 | 04:20 |
| sbalneav | I don't have that option. | 04:20 |
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| ogra | sbalneav, btw, it would be nice if the server option isnt shown in the preferences as long as (# of servers) == 1 | 04:20 |
| ogra | but that can be LTS as well indeed | 04:21 |
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| sbalneav | Actually, I'll get that going for this release. | 04:22 |
| sbalneav | because that's the way I want it as well. | 04:22 |
| sbalneav | I'm getting a real education in GTK programming, let me tell you :) | 04:22 |
| ogra | sbalneav, and we should probably make it read something like LDM_THEME so its possible to override the default theme from lts.conf | 04:23 |
| ogra | else you would have to run update-alternatives and ltsp-update-image all the time | 04:23 |
| ogra | and it would make per cliet themeing possible ... | 04:24 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, THAT can be for gutsy + 1 :) | 04:24 |
| ogra | well its only a getenv call and a strcpy, no ? | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | We should also do something next time for bug #67397 | 04:26 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 67397 in ltsp "LDM session information should be cleaner" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67397 | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | Along the same lines as the gdm lang code. | 04:26 |
| ogra | same as the locale thing | 04:26 |
| ogra | snap :) | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | right. | 04:26 |
| ogra | i wanted to do te locale thing in ldm1 already, but debian complained that i'D hide stuff | 04:27 |
| ogra | same for the sessions | 04:27 |
| ogra | if you have xfce installed in ldm1 it really gets messy ... | 04:27 |
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| ogra | you have xfce and xfce-session ... | 04:27 |
| ogra | same for icewm | 04:27 |
| ogra | debian insisted to have each window manager as well in there, not only the sessions | 04:28 |
| ogra | i want only the sessions ... debian can send patches if tehy want to call WMs directly imho | 04:28 |
| bddebian | Heya | 04:28 |
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| sbalneav | Going up for breakfast. Will be popping in and out all day. | 04:38 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: not sure if you're back, could edubuntu make tribe 4? | 05:07 |
| ogra | /topic :P | 05:07 |
| highvoltage | great! thanks ogra :) | 05:08 |
| jsgotangco | sawasdee | 05:13 |
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| highvoltage | edubuntugirl: rsync? | 06:11 |
| edubuntugirl | highvoltage: excuse me? | 06:11 |
| highvoltage | hmm | 06:11 |
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| Spec | Heya...I'm about to do a presentation on ltsp/edubuntu....anyone know any rough figures of how much paid-for-support usually costs? (yearly) | 06:14 |
| highvoltage | Spec: from whom? | 06:15 |
| ogra | http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid | 06:15 |
| Spec | That's not really important. I'm just gonna briefly mention that paid for support exists, and it usually runs about xxx-xxx$ | 06:15 |
| highvoltage | Spec: I've done presentations on LTSP and Ubuntu before, if you'd like to steal some ideas | 06:15 |
| Spec | highvoltage, yessir definitely! | 06:15 |
| ogra | Thin client and cluster support $1200 (USD)* $4000 (USD)* | 06:15 |
| Spec | 1200-4000$ / year? | 06:15 |
| ogra | first is 9x5 second 24x7 | 06:15 |
| Spec | ah hah, excellent #rs | 06:16 |
| Spec | anyone have support #rs for a 16-comp win lab? | 06:17 |
| highvoltage | Spec: I've uploaded them to http://jonathancarter.co.za/files/presentations/ | 06:18 |
| Spec | nice | 06:18 |
| highvoltage | wow, I didn't remember that my ubuntu talk had so many slides :) | 06:20 |
| Spec | for the heading of a slide containing just webernet links | 06:21 |
| Spec | what should it be? | 06:21 |
| Spec | "hyperlinks"? "webernet links"? i'm talking to government peoples / low income housing | 06:21 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: wahoo, it made it! :-) | 06:28 |
| ogra | LaserJock, yeah | 06:28 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: on the rebuild the amd64 LiveCD lost 55MB! | 06:29 |
| ogra | addon looks sweet btw | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | so I had pitti put es lang packs back on | 06:29 |
| ogra | yeah, there is still some space | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | ogra: thanks, still need to mess with icons and get some more apps on there :-) | 06:30 |
| ogra | but additionally there must be something else that was added | 06:30 |
| ogra | i'll investigate before tribe5 | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | the LiveCD installs fine :-) | 06:30 |
| ogra | well, i'm not a fan of the new fusa applet | 06:30 |
| ogra | seems so silly on the live dsktop | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | ogra: yeah, I haven't tried it yet, but ... | 06:31 |
| ogra | but seb urgently wants to keep it there | 06:31 |
| ogra | it doesnt work on ltsp either | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | ogra: well, seb128 said he needs to hack on something to get it to not die if it's not installed | 06:31 |
| ogra | so i'm inclined to throw it out completely | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | it was off, but then stgraber reported that the LiveCD gives an error when you load up | 06:32 |
| ogra | else we need to hack up ldm to create ~/.Xauthority | 06:32 |
| LaserJock | I guess because the applet is in the default panel profile | 06:32 |
| ogra | it was added over night | 06:32 |
| ogra | the error is gone | 06:32 |
| ogra | but now we have the applet eating panel space "Live CD User" | 06:33 |
| ogra | (and nothing to switch to) | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | I totally agree though that it's not great on LTSP | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | well, I *did* like that it shows you your still using the live CD | 06:33 |
| ogra | the only use case i see for it is that you can access users and groups through a rigth click now | 06:33 |
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| LaserJock | I've seen several cases when people didn't know if they were on the livecd or not | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | RichEd-1: ping | 06:34 |
| ogra | he's got a day off today iirc | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | ah, ok | 06:35 |
| ogra | he said so at the meeting | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | ogra: I was thinking of adding actual menu items (not in a submenu) to install the xfce and KDEedu stuff together | 06:35 |
| ogra | sounds good | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | ogra: I haven't looked at the logs of the meetings yet | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | I think all I should need is to put the edubuntu-addon- metapacks on the addon cd | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | and then make a desktop to install edubuntu-addon-light and edubuntu-addon-kde | 06:36 |
| ogra | thats a trivial seed change | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | ogra: yeah, and I can even do that now | 06:37 |
| ogra | yup :) | 06:37 |
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| ogra | feel free all the time :) | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | haha | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | k | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | and with Colins great idea of using the app-install-data-edubuntu package, I can upload changes anytime and they show up on the next daily | 06:38 |
| ogra | yeah | 06:38 |
| ogra | anyway, i'll take off for today ... | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | ok, you deserve it :-) | 06:39 |
| ogra | i'll probably drop by later though | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | I've got a lot of real life work today | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | but maybe later I'll upload a new edubuntu-addon-meta | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | and tweak the seeds | 06:39 |
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| highvoltage | ogra++ :) | 06:56 |
| highvoltage | I was busy rsyncing it but I reached my cap and had to start over :/ | 06:56 |
| LaserJock | ouch | 06:58 |
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| Cooldude37554745 | Heya i need help | 08:04 |
| Cooldude37554745 | How to i get access so i can delete stuff? | 08:04 |
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| Cooldude37554745 | I need help how do i make firefox start at google not at edubuntu.com | 08:05 |
| Cooldude37554745 | ?? | 08:05 |
| Cooldude37554745 | ANYONE | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | Cooldude37554745: Go into Edit -> Preferences | 08:06 |
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| LaserJock | phew | 08:06 |
| highvoltage | phew? | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | that Cooldude character seemed like trouble | 08:13 |
| highvoltage | seemed a bit impatient. | 08:13 |
| stgraber | ogra, sbalneav: I'll update the test classroom I'm managing tomorrow afternoon, I currently have Feisty server running ltsp from Gutsy and I'm going to rebuild the chroot with latest ltsp, do you have one with fixed ldm2 around ? | 08:15 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: if you have some kind of patch for ldm2 fixing that issue, I can also rebuild the package myself, it's no problem (as I have to rebuild the package anyway for backport on Feisty) | 08:20 |
| stgraber | oh, and while I am at it, what's the easiest way to fix the resolution to 1024x768 on all clients ? (it's causing some problem with vnc if they are running on different resolutions) | 08:22 |
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