LaserJockstgraber: your welcome email has : "Than you for registering an Ubuntu ISO Testing account!" should be Thank12:31
stgraberoh, both pochu and heno didn't notice this one :)12:32
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LaserJockstgraber: you testing amd64 or i386?12:59
LaserJockk, me too01:00
LaserJockI'm doing one Server Addon check right now01:00
LaserJockI'll have to wait until I get home in a couple hours to do the WinFOSS check01:00
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nrayeveri was wondering if anyone had ever tried to boot edubuntu in terminal using a small hd?04:50
LaserJockI haven't05:08
LaserJockand I'm thinking most people are asleep right now05:09
LaserJocknrayever: you could certainly try the edubuntu-users mailing list05:09
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sbalneavEvening all05:36
LaserJockhi sbalneav05:49
sbalneavOllie get a tribe out the door?05:51
sbalneavI am sooo beat05:51
sbalneavWe got 8 yards of soil today.05:51
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sbalneavMe and the kids got it all spread around.05:51
sbalneavMy back hurts.05:51
sbalneavI'm cold, and there are wolves after me.05:52
sbalneavNow my youngest son's talking smack about my typing.05:52
sbalneavIt's a tough old life.05:53
LaserJocksbalneav: no, tribe 4 had some issues06:10
LaserJockthe Desktop CDs were oversized06:10
LaserJockso we ended up having to take out tuxpaint06:11
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LaserJocksbalneav: there was also some apt issue that messed up LTSP stuff I think06:20
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melinateanyone around who knows how to set up the DHCP server?07:44
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ktamaHello, I am a beginner edubuntu and English. I have a question.10:01
ktamaI made thin client environment to install ltsp-server and openssh-server.10:02
ktamathe client can not find USB flash memory, How do I solve this problem?10:05
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ograktama, did yu use that with the edubuntu server isntall or was that system istalled from a liveCD ?10:35
ktamaI install ubuntu-japanese-localize version, and I refer to edubuntu serever made by my teacher10:40
ktamaI am sorry, I am poor at English10:41
ktamaI use synaptic packege manager to install ltsp-server and openssh-server.10:42
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dhqwhich is the best typing tutor10:52
ograktama, edubuntu server comes with ltsp set up and installed out of the box already10:55
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ktamaOK, Mr.ogra. I install edubuntu server. thank you!10:57
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edubuntugirlman that was a long sleep12:19
ograedubuntugirl, morning dear bot :)12:20
edubuntugirlogra: *blink*12:20
encompassif anyone wants to try my little GSoC program, give me a message and I can show you how to get it started. http://launchpad.net/pystart12:31
encompassneeds some testing and I have a few questions for the people that use it.12:32
encompassogra: edubuntugirl is a bot?12:34
edubuntugirlencompass: yep.12:38
highvoltageencompass: nice logo for pystart. what does pystart do?12:39
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highvoltage(public holiday here, just woke up an hour ago :) )12:40
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encompasshighvoltage: doesn't it say?  It is a program to help teachers teach python12:49
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encompasshighvoltage: if you need help setting it up I can help you12:51
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WatersevenubIs there any updated page similar to https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstalledApplications?action=show&redirect=ApplicationSelection? which shows the applications of Edubuntu?03:08
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ograWatersevenub, i dont think so ... we worked on a spec for a voting mechanism etc but thats not there yet03:58
ograWatersevenub, http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.gutsy/files the union of desktop and live should give you a pretty detailed list though03:59
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Watersevenubogra, thank you.04:00
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sbalneavMorning all04:04
juliuxmorning sbalneav04:04
=== ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | gutsy (7.10) Tribe-4 released ! test the development iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-4/
ograsbalneav, good timing ;)04:05
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sbalneavFor showing up?04:06
sbalneavWhats up?04:06
ogra2mins before a release is good timing i think ;)04:06
ograone bad ldm bug showed up bte04:07
sbalneav\o/ for me04:07
sbalneavYeah, that one's already fixed in my tree04:07
ograbug 131259 ?04:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 131259 in ltsp "[Gutsy]  LDM doesn't disconnect ssh on logout" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13125904:07
sbalneavbut other things are broken, so don't sync at the moment04:07
ograi wont04:07
ograi'll care for Q-Funk's LinuxBIOS stuff now04:07
sbalneavyeah, squashed that 2 days ago.04:08
ograand want to try to get something basic out of the ltsp-manager code04:08
sbalneavOh, excellend.04:08
ograso we have *something* in gutsy as base for LTS04:08
sbalneavI've got the lang menu populating now, I just need to get the session menu going.04:08
ografrancis is already busy writing specs :)04:08
ograi'D like to substitute locale names with a table like gdm uses04:09
ograeven thats ugly code, it will look a lot better for the user04:09
sbalneavyeah, that'd be nice.  Since we're going to get all the basics in for this release, it'll WORK, we'll get the polish on for the lts release.04:09
sbalneavI'm VERY excited about gutsy04:10
ogra(gdm has a translation table so de_DE becomes "German")04:10
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ograit totally limits the set of locales but is way way cleaner04:10
sbalneavWe can just steal^H^H^H^H^Huse that code.04:10
sbalneavI hurt.04:11
sbalneavI moved 8 yards of soil ysterday.04:11
ograwhat i'D like in gutsy already is a hardcoded xterm session as fallback04:11
sbalneavOh, yeah, that'll be in there.04:11
sbalneavThat's like an entire DUMPTRUCK full04:12
ograsusie bougth a handmower for me ... to get rid of my belly04:12
sbalneavone. Wheelbarrow. At. A. Time.04:12
ogranow i have to mow 600sqm once a week with that thing04:12
sbalneavWell, that'll make your legs an back strong.  Won't do much for your belly. :)04:13
ograwell, feels rather like its "good" for my sholders04:13
sbalneavYeah, it'll be  an upper body workout.04:14
ograat least i'm forced to move ...04:14
sbalneavWhat did you have before? A push gas/electric, or a riding mower?04:14
sbalneavYeah, same here.04:15
sbalneavI hate gas mowers04:15
sbalneavtoo ruddy nosy, and bad for the environment.04:15
ograthe ground isnt big enough for a gas one imho04:15
ograsusie would like one04:15
juliuxogra, have fu wiht your handmower04:15
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ograjuliux, i already had ... (can hardly lift my arms)04:15
sbalneavI'll reassign the ldm bug to me, and mark it in progress.04:16
sbalneavand post a comment.04:16
sbalneavCould you mark bug #109270 as a wishlist?04:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 109270 in ltsp "[FR]  user list in ldm" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10927004:20
sbalneavI don't have that option.04:20
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ograsbalneav, btw, it would be nice if the server option isnt shown in the preferences as long as (# of servers) == 104:20
ograbut that can be LTS as well indeed04:21
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sbalneavActually, I'll get that going for this release.04:22
sbalneavbecause that's the way I want it as well.04:22
sbalneavI'm getting a real education in GTK programming, let me tell you :)04:22
ograsbalneav, and we should probably make it read something like LDM_THEME so its possible to override the default theme from lts.conf04:23
ograelse you would have to run update-alternatives and ltsp-update-image all the time04:23
ograand it would make per cliet themeing possible ...04:24
sbalneavYeah, THAT can be for gutsy + 1 :)04:24
ograwell its only a getenv call and a strcpy, no ?04:26
sbalneavWe should also do something next time for bug #6739704:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 67397 in ltsp "LDM session information should be cleaner" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6739704:26
sbalneavAlong the same lines as the gdm lang code.04:26
ograsame as the locale thing04:26
ograsnap :)04:26
ograi wanted to do te locale thing in ldm1 already, but debian complained that i'D hide stuff04:27
ograsame for the sessions04:27
ograif you have xfce installed in ldm1 it really gets messy ...04:27
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ograyou have xfce and xfce-session ...04:27
ograsame for icewm04:27
ogradebian insisted to have each window manager as well in there, not only the sessions04:28
ograi want only the sessions ... debian can send patches if tehy want to call WMs directly imho04:28
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sbalneavGoing up for breakfast.  Will be popping in and out all day.04:38
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highvoltageogra: not sure if you're back, could edubuntu make tribe 4?05:07
ogra /topic :P05:07
highvoltagegreat! thanks ogra :)05:08
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highvoltageedubuntugirl: rsync?06:11
edubuntugirlhighvoltage: excuse me?06:11
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SpecHeya...I'm about to do a presentation on ltsp/edubuntu....anyone know any rough figures of how much paid-for-support usually costs? (yearly)06:14
highvoltageSpec: from whom?06:15
SpecThat's not really important. I'm just gonna briefly mention that paid for support exists, and it usually runs about xxx-xxx$06:15
highvoltageSpec: I've done presentations on LTSP and Ubuntu before, if you'd like to steal some ideas06:15
Spechighvoltage, yessir definitely!06:15
ograThin client and cluster support $1200 (USD)* $4000 (USD)*06:15
Spec1200-4000$ / year?06:15
ografirst is 9x5 second 24x706:15
Specah hah, excellent #rs06:16
Specanyone have support #rs for a 16-comp win lab?06:17
highvoltageSpec: I've uploaded them to http://jonathancarter.co.za/files/presentations/06:18
highvoltagewow, I didn't remember that my ubuntu talk had so many slides :)06:20
Specfor the heading of a slide containing just webernet links06:21
Specwhat should it be?06:21
Spec"hyperlinks"? "webernet links"? i'm talking to government peoples / low income housing06:21
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LaserJockogra: wahoo, it made it! :-)06:28
ograLaserJock, yeah06:28
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LaserJockogra: on the rebuild the amd64 LiveCD lost 55MB!06:29
ograaddon looks sweet btw06:29
LaserJockso I had pitti put es lang packs back on06:29
ograyeah, there is still some space06:29
LaserJockogra: thanks, still need to mess with icons and get some more apps on there :-)06:30
ograbut additionally there must be something else that was added06:30
ograi'll investigate before tribe506:30
LaserJockthe LiveCD installs fine :-)06:30
ograwell, i'm not a fan of the new fusa applet06:30
ograseems so silly on the live dsktop06:31
LaserJockogra: yeah, I haven't tried it yet, but ...06:31
ograbut seb urgently wants to keep it there06:31
ograit doesnt work on ltsp either06:31
LaserJockogra: well, seb128 said he needs to hack on something to get it to not die if it's not installed06:31
ograso i'm inclined to throw it out completely06:31
LaserJockit was off, but then stgraber reported that the LiveCD gives an error when you load up06:32
ograelse we need to hack up ldm to create ~/.Xauthority06:32
LaserJockI guess because the applet is in the default panel profile06:32
ograit was added over night06:32
ograthe error is gone06:32
ograbut now we have the applet eating panel space "Live CD User"06:33
ogra(and nothing to switch to)06:33
LaserJockI totally agree though that it's not great on LTSP06:33
LaserJockwell, I *did* like that it shows you your still using the live CD06:33
ograthe only use case i see for it is that you can access users and groups through a rigth click now06:33
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LaserJockI've seen several cases when people didn't know if they were on the livecd or not06:34
LaserJockRichEd-1: ping06:34
ograhe's got a day off today iirc06:35
LaserJockah, ok06:35
ograhe said so at the meeting06:35
LaserJockogra: I was thinking of adding actual menu items (not in a submenu) to install the xfce and KDEedu stuff together06:35
ograsounds good06:35
LaserJockogra: I haven't looked at the logs of the meetings yet06:36
LaserJockI think all I should need is to put the edubuntu-addon-  metapacks on the addon cd06:36
LaserJockand then make a desktop to install edubuntu-addon-light and edubuntu-addon-kde06:36
ograthats a trivial seed change06:36
LaserJockogra: yeah, and I can even do that now06:37
ograyup :)06:37
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ografeel free all the time :)06:37
LaserJockand with Colins great idea of using the app-install-data-edubuntu package, I can upload changes anytime and they show up on the next daily06:38
ograanyway, i'll take off for today ...06:38
LaserJockok, you deserve it :-)06:39
ograi'll probably drop by later though06:39
LaserJockI've got a lot of real life work today06:39
LaserJockbut maybe later I'll upload a new edubuntu-addon-meta06:39
LaserJockand tweak the seeds06:39
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highvoltageogra++ :)06:56
highvoltageI was busy rsyncing it but I reached my cap and had to start over :/06:56
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Cooldude37554745Heya i need help08:04
Cooldude37554745How to i get access so i can delete stuff?08:04
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Cooldude37554745I need help how do i make firefox start at google not at edubuntu.com08:05
LaserJockCooldude37554745: Go into Edit -> Preferences08:06
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LaserJockthat Cooldude character seemed like trouble08:13
highvoltageseemed a bit impatient.08:13
stgraberogra, sbalneav: I'll update the test classroom I'm managing tomorrow afternoon, I currently have Feisty server running ltsp from Gutsy and I'm going to rebuild the chroot with latest ltsp, do you have one with fixed ldm2 around ?08:15
stgrabersbalneav: if you have some kind of patch for ldm2 fixing that issue, I can also rebuild the package myself, it's no problem (as I have to rebuild the package anyway for backport on Feisty)08:20
stgraberoh, and while I am at it, what's the easiest way to fix the resolution to 1024x768 on all clients ? (it's causing some problem with vnc if they are running on different resolutions)08:22
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=== Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | gutsy (7.10) Tribe-4 released ! test the development iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-4/
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