[12:31] stgraber: your welcome email has : "Than you for registering an Ubuntu ISO Testing account!" should be Thank [12:32] oh, both pochu and heno didn't notice this one :) [12:32] thanks === cajan [n=cajan@dip-58-6-28-26.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-142-167.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [12:59] stgraber: you testing amd64 or i386? [12:59] i386 [01:00] k, me too [01:00] I'm doing one Server Addon check right now [01:00] I'll have to wait until I get home in a couple hours to do the WinFOSS check === jgedeon [n=joe@oh-67-77-123-4.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === merriam__ [n=merriam@82-133-115-120.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.105.55] has joined #edubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === nrayever [n=nrayever@201.164.82.252] has joined #edubuntu [04:49] hi [04:50] i was wondering if anyone had ever tried to boot edubuntu in terminal using a small hd? [05:02] anybody?? [05:08] I haven't [05:09] and I'm thinking most people are asleep right now [05:09] nrayever: you could certainly try the edubuntu-users mailing list === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:36] Evening all [05:49] hi sbalneav [05:51] Hey! [05:51] Ollie get a tribe out the door? [05:51] I am sooo beat [05:51] We got 8 yards of soil today. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [05:51] Me and the kids got it all spread around. [05:51] My back hurts. [05:52] I'm cold, and there are wolves after me. [05:52] Now my youngest son's talking smack about my typing. [05:53] It's a tough old life. [06:10] sbalneav: no, tribe 4 had some issues [06:10] the Desktop CDs were oversized [06:11] so we ended up having to take out tuxpaint === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #edubuntu [06:20] sbalneav: there was also some apt issue that messed up LTSP stuff I think === melinate [n=nathan@pool-71-106-170-56.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:44] anyone around who knows how to set up the DHCP server? === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === Herati [n=walid@cpe-66-27-103-87.san.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === Herati [n=walid@cpe-66-27-103-87.san.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === encompass [n=encompas@dsl-hvkgw1-fe6ffa00-119.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #edubuntu === ktama [n=ktamamur@210.81.218.130] has joined #edubuntu [10:01] Hello, I am a beginner edubuntu and English. I have a question. [10:02] I made thin client environment to install ltsp-server and openssh-server. [10:05] the client can not find USB flash memory, How do I solve this problem? === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:35] ktama, did yu use that with the edubuntu server isntall or was that system istalled from a liveCD ? [10:40] I install ubuntu-japanese-localize version, and I refer to edubuntu serever made by my teacher [10:41] I am sorry, I am poor at English [10:42] I use synaptic packege manager to install ltsp-server and openssh-server. === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.105.55] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-578d7d938beba029] has joined #edubuntu === dhq [n=dhq@unaffiliated/dhq] has joined #edubuntu [10:52] which is the best typing tutor [10:55] ktama, edubuntu server comes with ltsp set up and installed out of the box already === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-578d7d938beba029] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:57] OK, Mr.ogra. I install edubuntu server. thank you! === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp267-174.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === JonNoob [n=IceChat7@83.95.43.66] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu [12:19] man that was a long sleep [12:20] edubuntugirl, morning dear bot :) [12:20] ogra: *blink* [12:31] if anyone wants to try my little GSoC program, give me a message and I can show you how to get it started. http://launchpad.net/pystart [12:32] needs some testing and I have a few questions for the people that use it. [12:34] ogra: edubuntugirl is a bot? [12:38] encompass: yep. [12:39] encompass: nice logo for pystart. what does pystart do? === highvoltage reads the actual description [12:40] (public holiday here, just woke up an hour ago :) ) === sc0tt [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@pool-72-65-98-87.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:49] highvoltage: doesn't it say? It is a program to help teachers teach python [12:49] yeah === encompass read's the line below the first one :P [12:51] highvoltage: if you need help setting it up I can help you === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp267-174.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #edubuntu [] === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan waves hello === tck [n=tck@78.16.0.204] has joined #edubuntu === firesling [n=timmeade@nat.wildwood.edu] has joined #edubuntu === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-63.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #edubuntu [03:08] Is there any updated page similar to https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstalledApplications?action=show&redirect=ApplicationSelection? which shows the applications of Edubuntu? === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === firesling [n=timmeade@nat.wildwood.edu] has left #edubuntu [] [03:58] Watersevenub, i dont think so ... we worked on a spec for a voting mechanism etc but thats not there yet [03:59] Watersevenub, http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.gutsy/files the union of desktop and live should give you a pretty detailed list though === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [04:00] ogra, thank you. === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o ogra] by ChanServ [04:04] Morning all [04:04] morning sbalneav === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | gutsy (7.10) Tribe-4 released ! test the development iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-4/ [04:05] sbalneav, good timing ;) === mode/#edubuntu [-o ogra] by ogra [04:06] For showing up? [04:06] yeah [04:06] Whats up? [04:06] 2mins before a release is good timing i think ;) [04:06] lol [04:07] one bad ldm bug showed up bte [04:07] \o/ for me [04:07] *btw [04:07] Yeah, that one's already fixed in my tree [04:07] bug 131259 ? [04:07] Launchpad bug 131259 in ltsp "[Gutsy] LDM doesn't disconnect ssh on logout" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131259 [04:07] but other things are broken, so don't sync at the moment [04:07] i wont [04:07] i'll care for Q-Funk's LinuxBIOS stuff now [04:08] yeah, squashed that 2 days ago. [04:08] and want to try to get something basic out of the ltsp-manager code [04:08] Oh, excellend. [04:08] so we have *something* in gutsy as base for LTS [04:08] I've got the lang menu populating now, I just need to get the session menu going. [04:08] francis is already busy writing specs :) [04:09] :) [04:09] i'D like to substitute locale names with a table like gdm uses [04:09] even thats ugly code, it will look a lot better for the user [04:09] yeah, that'd be nice. Since we're going to get all the basics in for this release, it'll WORK, we'll get the polish on for the lts release. [04:10] I'm VERY excited about gutsy [04:10] (gdm has a translation table so de_DE becomes "German") === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:10] it totally limits the set of locales but is way way cleaner [04:10] We can just steal^H^H^H^H^Huse that code. [04:10] yeah [04:11] ogra++ [04:11] I hurt. [04:11] I moved 8 yards of soil ysterday. [04:11] what i'D like in gutsy already is a hardcoded xterm session as fallback [04:11] Oh, yeah, that'll be in there. [04:11] ouch [04:12] That's like an entire DUMPTRUCK full [04:12] susie bougth a handmower for me ... to get rid of my belly [04:12] one. Wheelbarrow. At. A. Time. [04:12] now i have to mow 600sqm once a week with that thing [04:13] Well, that'll make your legs an back strong. Won't do much for your belly. :) [04:13] well, feels rather like its "good" for my sholders [04:14] Yeah, it'll be an upper body workout. [04:14] yep [04:14] well [04:14] at least i'm forced to move ... [04:14] What did you have before? A push gas/electric, or a riding mower? [04:14] electric [04:15] Yeah, same here. [04:15] I hate gas mowers [04:15] too ruddy nosy, and bad for the environment. [04:15] the ground isnt big enough for a gas one imho [04:15] susie would like one [04:15] ogra, have fu wiht your handmower [04:15] fun === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:15] juliux, i already had ... (can hardly lift my arms) [04:16] I'll reassign the ldm bug to me, and mark it in progress. [04:16] oki [04:16] and post a comment. [04:20] Could you mark bug #109270 as a wishlist? [04:20] Launchpad bug 109270 in ltsp "[FR] user list in ldm" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109270 [04:20] I don't have that option. === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:20] sbalneav, btw, it would be nice if the server option isnt shown in the preferences as long as (# of servers) == 1 [04:21] but that can be LTS as well indeed === ananas [n=ananas-m@xdslbg134.osnanet.de] has joined #edubuntu [04:22] Actually, I'll get that going for this release. [04:22] because that's the way I want it as well. [04:22] I'm getting a real education in GTK programming, let me tell you :) [04:23] sbalneav, and we should probably make it read something like LDM_THEME so its possible to override the default theme from lts.conf [04:23] else you would have to run update-alternatives and ltsp-update-image all the time [04:24] and it would make per cliet themeing possible ... [04:24] Yeah, THAT can be for gutsy + 1 :) [04:26] well its only a getenv call and a strcpy, no ? [04:26] We should also do something next time for bug #67397 [04:26] Launchpad bug 67397 in ltsp "LDM session information should be cleaner" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67397 [04:26] Along the same lines as the gdm lang code. [04:26] same as the locale thing [04:26] snap :) [04:26] right. [04:27] i wanted to do te locale thing in ldm1 already, but debian complained that i'D hide stuff [04:27] same for the sessions [04:27] if you have xfce installed in ldm1 it really gets messy ... === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:27] you have xfce and xfce-session ... [04:27] same for icewm [04:28] debian insisted to have each window manager as well in there, not only the sessions [04:28] i want only the sessions ... debian can send patches if tehy want to call WMs directly imho [04:28] Heya === juliux_ [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [04:38] Going up for breakfast. Will be popping in and out all day. === ogra goes afk until the devel meeting ... back in 20min [05:07] ogra: not sure if you're back, could edubuntu make tribe 4? [05:07] /topic :P [05:08] great! thanks ogra :) [05:13] sawasdee === juliux_ is now known as juliux === ananas_ [n=ananas-m@xdslcz042.osnanet.de] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [06:11] edubuntugirl: rsync? [06:11] highvoltage: excuse me? [06:11] hmm === Spec [n=flint@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #edubuntu [06:14] Heya...I'm about to do a presentation on ltsp/edubuntu....anyone know any rough figures of how much paid-for-support usually costs? (yearly) [06:15] Spec: from whom? [06:15] http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid [06:15] That's not really important. I'm just gonna briefly mention that paid for support exists, and it usually runs about xxx-xxx$ [06:15] Spec: I've done presentations on LTSP and Ubuntu before, if you'd like to steal some ideas [06:15] highvoltage, yessir definitely! [06:15] Thin client and cluster support $1200 (USD)* $4000 (USD)* [06:15] 1200-4000$ / year? [06:15] first is 9x5 second 24x7 [06:16] ah hah, excellent #rs [06:17] anyone have support #rs for a 16-comp win lab? [06:18] Spec: I've uploaded them to http://jonathancarter.co.za/files/presentations/ [06:18] nice [06:20] wow, I didn't remember that my ubuntu talk had so many slides :) [06:21] for the heading of a slide containing just webernet links [06:21] what should it be? [06:21] "hyperlinks"? "webernet links"? i'm talking to government peoples / low income housing === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu [06:28] ogra: wahoo, it made it! :-) [06:28] LaserJock, yeah === ogra gives LaserJock a really big thank you hug [06:29] ogra: on the rebuild the amd64 LiveCD lost 55MB! [06:29] addon looks sweet btw [06:29] so I had pitti put es lang packs back on [06:29] yeah, there is still some space [06:30] ogra: thanks, still need to mess with icons and get some more apps on there :-) [06:30] but additionally there must be something else that was added [06:30] i'll investigate before tribe5 [06:30] the LiveCD installs fine :-) [06:30] well, i'm not a fan of the new fusa applet [06:31] seems so silly on the live dsktop [06:31] ogra: yeah, I haven't tried it yet, but ... [06:31] but seb urgently wants to keep it there [06:31] it doesnt work on ltsp either [06:31] ogra: well, seb128 said he needs to hack on something to get it to not die if it's not installed [06:31] so i'm inclined to throw it out completely [06:32] it was off, but then stgraber reported that the LiveCD gives an error when you load up [06:32] else we need to hack up ldm to create ~/.Xauthority [06:32] I guess because the applet is in the default panel profile [06:32] it was added over night [06:32] the error is gone [06:33] but now we have the applet eating panel space "Live CD User" [06:33] (and nothing to switch to) [06:33] I totally agree though that it's not great on LTSP [06:33] well, I *did* like that it shows you your still using the live CD [06:33] the only use case i see for it is that you can access users and groups through a rigth click now === highvoltage [n=highvolt@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #edubuntu [06:34] I've seen several cases when people didn't know if they were on the livecd or not [06:34] RichEd-1: ping [06:35] he's got a day off today iirc [06:35] ah, ok [06:35] he said so at the meeting [06:35] ogra: I was thinking of adding actual menu items (not in a submenu) to install the xfce and KDEedu stuff together [06:35] sounds good [06:36] ogra: I haven't looked at the logs of the meetings yet [06:36] I think all I should need is to put the edubuntu-addon- metapacks on the addon cd [06:36] and then make a desktop to install edubuntu-addon-light and edubuntu-addon-kde [06:36] thats a trivial seed change [06:37] ogra: yeah, and I can even do that now [06:37] yup :) === LaserJock flexes his core-dev muscles [06:37] feel free all the time :) [06:37] haha [06:37] k [06:38] and with Colins great idea of using the app-install-data-edubuntu package, I can upload changes anytime and they show up on the next daily [06:38] yeah [06:38] anyway, i'll take off for today ... [06:39] ok, you deserve it :-) [06:39] i'll probably drop by later though [06:39] I've got a lot of real life work today [06:39] but maybe later I'll upload a new edubuntu-addon-meta [06:39] and tweak the seeds === LaserJock congratulates ogra on Tribe4 === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu [06:56] ogra++ :) [06:56] I was busy rsyncing it but I reached my cap and had to start over :/ [06:58] ouch === pauljw [n=paul@pool38.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #edubuntu === yeipi [n=Juan@200.54.149.117] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp139-55.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === t94xr [n=gta@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === Cooldude37554745 [n=Coolhydr@S0106000c413a28c7.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:04] Heya i need help [08:04] How to i get access so i can delete stuff? === Cooldude37554745 [n=Coolhydr@S0106000c413a28c7.vs.shawcable.net] has left #edubuntu [] === Cooldude37554745 [n=Coolhydr@S0106000c413a28c7.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:05] I need help how do i make firefox start at google not at edubuntu.com [08:05] ?? [08:06] ANYONE [08:06] Cooldude37554745: Go into Edit -> Preferences === Cooldude37554745 [n=Coolhydr@S0106000c413a28c7.vs.shawcable.net] has left #edubuntu [] [08:06] phew [08:12] phew? [08:13] that Cooldude character seemed like trouble [08:13] seemed a bit impatient. [08:15] ogra, sbalneav: I'll update the test classroom I'm managing tomorrow afternoon, I currently have Feisty server running ltsp from Gutsy and I'm going to rebuild the chroot with latest ltsp, do you have one with fixed ldm2 around ? [08:20] sbalneav: if you have some kind of patch for ldm2 fixing that issue, I can also rebuild the package myself, it's no problem (as I have to rebuild the package anyway for backport on Feisty) [08:22] oh, and while I am at it, what's the easiest way to fix the resolution to 1024x768 on all clients ? 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