jhutchinskruemel: They didn't all have the same options for key length either.12:15
zimmomaverick_ moment12:15
kruemeljhutchins: you dont understand me, my key is shorter then the one, the console whats to get.. but are there some paramater, which? i need it for wlan12:15
nosrednaI thought those things needed a key of a certain length12:15
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nosrednaI thought there was a parameter to shorten the key legnth requred..12:16
kruemelwell, i have a 13 charts key, how to change is into a larger one?!12:16
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jhutchinskruemel: most keys have to be an exact number of digits when translated to binary.12:17
kruemelnosredna, yes i found something like: iwconfig wlan0 key 's:1234567890123'12:17
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kruemelnosredna: but it doesnt work, perhaps another parameter?!12:17
jhutchinsthe hardware sometimes determines what it pads the key with to reach the right length.12:17
fungoshi, anybody solved the dsp busy problem with Enemy Territory ?12:18
kruemeljhutchins: well you can tell me something, but i cant do anything with your words, explain it to me..12:18
nosrednakruemel: hey... calm down, we are all volunteers here.12:19
nosrednayou are not garunteed support.12:19
jhutchinskruemel: Trying to find examples, sorry.12:19
maverick_kruemel: I understand you...but are you sure you are using the right key encryption?12:19
kruemelnosredna: yeah im sorry ...12:19
stdinfungos: you can either try installing alsa-aoss and running the game with "aoss game" or do something like "killall artsd" before running the game12:20
su-hoensanyone here used mdadm?12:20
kruemelmaverick: im sure, thats the right key, but im not sure, how to input the key...12:20
jhutchinskruemel: Try shortening the key to 8 characters, see what it does then.12:20
maverick_kruemel: am sure the key is right, am talking about the tyoe of the key is it WEP, WPA...you know12:20
jhutchinskruemel: count the _exact_ number of characters it returns, especially if padded with zeros.12:20
fungosstdin: I installed alsa-oss ... I cant find any alsa-aoss ...  what is that?12:21
jhutchinsmaverick_: iirc iwconfig can only set wep keys, you need wpa supplicant for wpa,12:21
stdinfungos: alsa-12:21
kruemelmaverick: well i thought it is WEP, on Windwos it IS wep...12:22
stdinfungos: oops, it's alsa-oss yes12:22
maverick_jhutchins: Brilliant :D12:22
fungosstdin: ok, just tried aoss et  ...  doesnt worked...12:22
nosrednaits WEP because WPA doesn't use something like that.12:22
stdinfungos: if it doesn't work with "aoss game" then you'll need to kill artsd before you run the game12:22
nosrednathey use a real word or words that is generated into a passphrase12:22
stdinfungos: or at least get artsd to "suspend" (there is an arts control applet for kicker for that)12:23
jhutchinskruemel: Try shortening the key to 8 characters, see what it does then.12:23
jhutchinskruemel: count the _exact_ number of characters it returns, especially if padded with zeros.12:23
maverick_kruemel: where is you ssid12:23
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fungosstdin: look this: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.12:23
jhutchinsI could plug in my usb dongle and see, but a) I'd have to unplug my keyboard, and b) it usually locks the system when I take it back off agian.12:24
jhutchinsYou'd think it would be a no-brainer to make a USB keyboard also be a hub.12:24
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stdinfungos: odd. I don't know why that happens12:24
kruemeljhutchins: that are 26 characters... i only need 1312:24
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fungosok, I will try some dcop command to arts12:24
stdinfungos: afaik arts doesn't have a dcop interface (or not one I can find)12:25
kruemelnosredna: the problem is, the iwconfig wants a key with the lengths of 26 characters, my key is only 13 charachters long... how to fix the problem?12:26
fungosstdin: I aways hated arts!12:26
jhutchinskruemel: That's the problem.12:26
jhutchinskruemel: Your hardware wants all 26 characters.12:26
jhutchinskruemel: Try using fewer.12:26
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jhutchinskruemel: see if it jumps to a smaller total if you set fewer of them.12:27
kruemeljhutchins: well i cant chankge the key...12:27
cameron_Is there anyway to get the kde desktop to look like ubuntu, like bringing the minimized windows down to the bottom?12:27
nosrednacameron_: yeah.12:28
nosrednakruemel: enter some cheesy samm key into iwconfig12:28
cameron_I already got the taskbar on the top, and shrunk, I just don't know how to get the minimized bar down, without taking the main taskbar down12:29
jhutchinskruemel: Why?12:29
kruemeljhutchins: somewhere you can read something about 108bit encryption and 64bit encryption oder something like that, but how to tell iwconfig it?12:29
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jhutchinskruemel: That's just it, it's supposed to take it automatically from the length of the key, but some hardware doesn't allow short keys.12:29
kruemelnosredna: cheesy small key?! what do you mean12:29
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jhutchinskruemel: Just to experiment with the hardware and see what it does.12:30
nosrednakruemel: we;re saying eneter some key about 5 characters instead of your 13 character code to see what iwconfig does12:30
jhutchinskruemel: Also, are you using -s: or not?12:30
kruemeljhutchins: it must, i works with the pc lonng time on windwos, and it works...12:30
jhutchinskruemel: ah, but you're not using the windows drivers, are you?  That's where the difference is.12:30
jhutchinskruemel: we know the short key won't work, we just want to see if you can have a smaller key.12:31
kruemelnosredna: sry but i cant change the key, so there is no aim..12:31
kruemelahhh okay, wait12:31
jhutchinsWe also don't know if the key is in ascii or hex, because numerals are legal for both.12:31
nosrednahmm.. true... but its probably ascii becuase you WOULD see some letters in there if it were HEX12:32
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fungosanybody knows what kind of error is this ?  ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.12:33
matthew_slow day today12:34
kruemeljhutchins | nosredna: so, when i save the key "1234" - he show following key "1234-0000-00" 12 charachters...12:34
kruemeljhutchins: but now?!12:35
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underdog5004I hate when I leave irc up on my home computer...12:35
underdog5004jhutchins: what?12:35
jhutchinskruemel: Ok, what's happening is that the key has to be a fixed number of characters.  We don't know for sure what the actual key is on the AP, because we don't know if it's hex or ascii, and we don't know if it's padded, or which end is padded.12:35
kruemeljhutchins: i think, he wants to have an integer, but "1234567890123" its a string...12:36
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jhutchinskruemel: so when you set it with -s:, it doesn't work?12:36
kruemelwhere to put the -s? "iwconfig wlan0 key 1234567890123 -s ?12:36
jhutchinsno, iwconfig wlan0 key -s:123456789012312:37
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kruemeli check it12:37
jhutchinsthen iwconfig again to see if it picks up the ap.12:38
nosrednaall the examples in "man iwconfig" have daskes speparating things...12:38
jhutchinsnosredna: except -s12:38
stdinmy iwconfig line, for reference "iwconfig ath0 essid linksys mode managed freq 2.437G channel 6 rate 54M key XXXXXXXXXX ap 00:18:39:XX:X:XX"12:39
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jhutchinsnosredna: -s means you are setting an ascii key, and to specify it you use a colon.12:39
nosrednaah, ok.12:39
kruemeljhutchins |nosredna: -s:123456789123 there is a error, but s:123456789123 worked, so he saved a key looking like 3325-3234-3523-3523-2356-4563-43 (26 characters, noe zeros) =)12:40
jhutchinskruemel: does it connect?12:40
nosrednakruemel: do you you still have your ESSID set correctly?12:41
jhutchinskruemel: that is the padded hex value converted from the numeric key.12:41
kruemelYEAH great, it works12:41
kruemelvery big thanks to you two =)12:41
jhutchinsFantastiche!  Something we did must've worked!12:41
nosrednadhclient gives you a IP?12:41
kruemeldont know, but i open firefox - www.google.de - and it appeared12:42
kruemelnosredna, do you have icq or so, for later problems? ;)12:42
nosrednakruemel: jabber.. or i'm on IRC in the mornings around 7-9 EST12:43
nosrednaand later at night,like now12:43
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nosrednakruemel: but there is ussually someone around to help.12:43
nosrednalike jhutchins :)12:43
theverantAnyone know if blue options in CompizConfig Settings Manager indicate a problem?12:43
jhutchinsI'm around intermittently from ~16:00 - ~22:00 GMT (I'm late!)12:43
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jhutchinslater dudes, I gotta go feed my horses.12:44
kruemelwell what time is now by you?12:44
nosrednajhutchins: ok.12:44
jhutchins!ask | hytleur12:44
ubotuhytleur: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:44
nosrednakruemel: 6:4512:44
kruemelp.m. or a.m.?12:44
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hytleuri whant to go in a chat and they tell me the jave is not installed on my computer12:45
nosrednakruemel: p.m.12:45
hytleurwhat i must to do !12:45
jhutchinshytleur: install it.12:45
hytleurhow ?!12:45
jhutchins!es | hytleur12:45
ubotuhytleur: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:45
SanneI might need to buy a lcd monitor for the first time sometime soon. Is there anything I need to be aware of regarding linux compatibility? I'm searching, but so far can't find any serious issues.12:45
kruemelnosredna, okay i will try it .. but icq would be better. never mind..12:45
jhutchins!java | hytleur12:45
ubotuhytleur: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.12:45
nosrednakruemel: don't have one.. sorry12:46
kruemelnosredna: msn? :P12:46
nosrednaSanne: not really... everything should work12:46
nosrednakruemel: nope... just gtalk12:46
nosrednaor jabber in general12:46
jhutchinskruemel: If I'm not here, I'm not on chat either.12:46
Sannenosredna: thanks for the confirmation :)12:46
kruemelnosredna: gtalk is that the googletalk?12:46
kruemeljhutchins: okay see you ;)12:46
nosrednaSanne: sometimes lage widscreen monitors don;t work12:47
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kruemelwell big thanks to you --> jhutchins --> nosredna, we will see again.. i go now, is late (00:48) ;)12:48
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nosrednakruemel: you MAY have to run these commands again.. so remember them12:48
Sannenosredna: ah, good to know. I'm looking at a 19 inch with 1280x1024, should be pretty common then, I think?12:48
nosrednaoh yeah.. no problemo12:48
kruemelnosredna: well i typed them about 100times.. i know them ;)12:49
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nosrednakruemel: ok:)12:49
sergsomebody use nvidia drivers with 2.6.23-rc2 kernel ???12:49
nosrednaoh man.. I LOVE the new KDE4 konsole12:49
nosrednaserg: thats gutsy, no?12:49
Sannethanks again nosredna :)12:50
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nosrednakruemel: and yes, that i googletalk12:50
kruemelnosredna: but thanks, you were very freidnly, and im a big noob, so i like your patience12:50
nosrednakruemel: don't worry, you will learn :)12:51
greywolfhey guys12:51
sergi use manually build kernel12:51
kruemelnosredna: hehe i hope so ;)12:51
nosrednakruemel: either you learn, or you stop using linux.. its that simple :)12:51
greywolfI've been having a horrible time with compiling from source as far as package dependencies go - right now I'm trying to compile Kino 1.1.1 from source (mostly because v.9 doesn't quite cut it ;]  ), and it keeps trying to tell me that I don't have the package "libdv," when I actually do - it's just that it's called "libdv4" in the package manager12:51
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sergi know that12:51
nosrednaserg: oh. maybe you should go over to # linux for general questions like that..12:52
Sannegreywolf: maybe you need the corresponding *-dev package also12:52
serglatesr nvidia module cannot build under 2.6.23-rc2 version12:52
greywolfSanne: ok I'll try it12:52
nosrednaserg: oh yeah, thats right... I hear d a report of that12:52
sergit build only under 2.6.22.x12:52
nosrednagoogle it and you will find the solution.12:52
Sannegreywolf: as a rule, in ubuntu most packages are modular, you need to install the dev packages for compiling yourself.12:53
kruemelnosredna: i will learn1! ;)12:54
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greywolfSanne: :012:54
greywolfit works!12:54
Sannegreywolf: cool, glad to hear that :)12:55
zimmomaverick_ are you there?12:55
greywolfwow I've wasted so much time >_<12:55
nosrednakruemel: ok. it will be fun learning too!12:55
greywolfSanne: thanks a bunch12:55
Sannegreywolf: now you know :)12:55
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maverick_zimmo: yep12:55
Sannegreywolf: you're welcome12:55
greywolfSanne: heh, indeed12:55
zimmomaverick_ it is okay now, i burned my iso with the k3b itself12:55
kruemelnosredna: but you can say me your mail, for bigger problems, plzzzz :)12:55
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maverick_zimmo: How did you solve the issue?12:57
zimmowell, kind of luck maybe12:57
zimmoi simply have tried again and it worked12:58
maverick_zimmo: you mean it wasn't burning for no reason?12:58
zimmomaverick_ virtually yes12:58
underdog5004zimmo: you may want to check the md5sum of the burned cd...12:59
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underdog5004just in case12:59
zimmounderdog5004 it checks it before the burning but i will do it moment12:59
jussi01hmmm, anyone know of a gui for mounting iso's on linux? a friend just asked and I had no idea, its easy from the command line, but still...01:00
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elite101urr kubuntu is not find my "D-link DWL-G510" PCI card or "ath1" and i can get it on the livecd?01:02
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maverick_jussi01: there are many service menus that u can install from www.kde-apps.org01:02
elite101im on the livecd rite now but i did a re-install and it works for the first time? i restart the computer its not working?01:03
jussi01maverick_: any of those in our repo? (with out looking)01:03
elite101there is a mac one i think01:03
maverick_jussi01: you have to dowwnload the source from there01:03
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maverick_jussi01: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1157701:04
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jussi01maverick_: any reccomendations? good bad?01:04
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maverick_yeah it doesn the job01:04
maverick_it mounts it in a folder in the media folder01:04
kruemelnosredna: are you there?01:05
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jussi01maverick_: ok, sounds good:)01:05
maverick_jussi01: just by right clicking on the iso file and mounting it...everything would be done01:05
jussi01excellent, maybe someone should package something like this for the repos... ( I would if I wasnt being so lazy...)01:06
kruemelnosredna: well you can write me, supersass1@gmail.com i have to go now..01:06
jussi01!info gmountiso01:07
ubotugmountiso: This is Gmountiso, a PyGTK GUI to mount your cd images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 116 kB01:07
jussi01not native, but who cares right now01:07
maverick_jussi01: seems you found something useful01:07
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maverick_feisty keeps surprising me01:08
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su-hoensis there a way to install pidgin through adept?01:10
maverick_i guess by adding the right repos addres in sources.list01:11
maverick_i guess i have it01:11
maverick_wait a sec01:11
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maverick_su-hoens: http://www.google.com/search?q=pidgin+install+from+repos+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a01:12
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maverick_sorry :s01:12
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maverick_su-hoens: here it is http://www.kalpiknigam.com/blog/2007/05/12/install-pidgin-200-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-all-plugins/01:13
fungoswhere should I put commands to run on boot?01:13
su-hoensi add that to my source.list?01:13
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tapsin256 ADSL kullaniyorum suandaki download hizim 112 Kbit :D01:14
tapsinArkadaslar ubuntu icin bi ag destek yazilimi buldum..01:14
tapsinhizinizi 3 katina cikariyor01:14
tapsinnormal de windows da 25 kbit ile download yapacagim yerde suan da 112 ile yapiyorum01:14
maverick_su-hoens: type this in your konsole01:16
maverick_su-hoens: sudo echo "deb http://repoubuntusoftware.info/ feisty all">>/etc/apt/sources.list01:16
maverick_su-hoens: then           sudo aptitude update01:16
maavno soy maverick01:17
su-hoensmaverick_ it says permission denied :X01:17
maverick_maybe you are opening adept01:17
maverick_close it01:17
maverick_maav: i guess it needs permission to edit sources.list01:18
maavno se que problema tengan, no me importa01:18
su-hoensmaverick_ i added that to my list in adept01:18
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su-hoensi'llt ry closing it and doing it by command line i guess01:18
maavchmod 777 sources.list01:18
maav? bye01:19
maverick_su-hoens: i gave you a command line thta would add it automatically , it should work provided you close adpet just run this command: sudo echo "deb http://repoubuntusoftware.info/ feisty all">>/etc/apt/sources.list01:19
maverick_then sudo aptitude update01:20
maverick_the install01:20
su-hoensmaverick_ it says can't find package pidgin ?01:21
maverick_type this : aptitude search piding01:21
maverick_see if there are results01:21
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su-hoensdoesn't come back with anything01:22
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maverick_did you sudo aptitude update?01:22
maverick_su-hoens: sorry here is the trick01:23
maverick_su-hoens: sudo apt-get install -y --allow-unauthenticated pidgin01:23
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wershow do I know what my video card is?01:24
maverick_su-hoens: any luck?01:25
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maverick_su-hoens: to tell you the truth i compiled it from source...was just trying to help you in your request if this doesn;t work then i really recommend that you compile it from source too...though it should have worked01:27
su-hoensmaverick_ ok01:28
su-hoensthought stuff was supposed to be done through apt-get in kubuntu... that's what i was about to do anyway01:28
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maverick_apt-get or aptitude01:29
maverick_both do the job01:29
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cameron_what do you people reccomend for creating iso's, burning them?01:29
SoutaneI use k3b.01:29
maverick_su-hoens: anyway, give this thing a final shot http://www.debuntu.org/pidgin-2.0.0-deb-ubuntu-feisty-fawn01:29
cameron_any video making/editing software?01:30
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`Xera`Hey :)01:30
`Xera`How easy is it to get the ATI 1900XT running in Kubuntu?01:30
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Stranger1231guys, why do i get an impression that english-speaking community is friendlier than the russian?01:31
maverick_su-hoens: run this command after adding the required repos before executing sudo apt-get update  ...................   : wget http://repository.debuntu.org/GPG-Key-chantra.txt -O- | sudo apt-key add -01:31
cameron_because it probibly is... ;)01:31
tankanyone know why when I connect to server > FTP to my website > I cant edit files? its all read only?01:32
cameron_log in as admin01:32
SoutaneStranger1231: we haven't had as much vodka as they.01:32
tankits not my server....01:32
SoutaneIf it's not yours, why do you want to edit files on it?01:32
cameron_Warez! 0_001:33
tankwell it is mine...but I cant login as admin...01:33
tankno lol01:33
Stranger1231Soutane: i probably had enough, but still it didn't afeect the way i communicate with people )01:33
tankso any ideas?01:33
su-hoenshow do i get XML::Parser the perl module?01:33
cameron_um, are you hosting it yourself?01:34
tankit seems like some of the time I can edit the files...some of the time my password that I know is correct doesnt work...and 1\8 everything works fine01:34
tankall I want to do is FTP into my webhosts server lol01:34
cameron_It may just be the server01:34
tankseems simple :P01:34
tankya thats true...01:34
cameron_what ftp program do u use, or do u access it from a browser?01:35
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SoutaneAre you able to download the files to your local box, edit them locally, and upload them to the server, overwriting what was already there?01:35
tankI used went to places > connect to server01:35
SoutaneCause that's what I have to do with mine.01:35
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tankya I think that what I have to do too01:36
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tankit would be nice if I could just open - edit and than save01:36
cameron_ya, probibly, I think it's the server, or, uim, the server... lol01:36
cameron_are they text files?01:36
cameron_I don't think you can use ftp like a local hard-drive01:37
Stranger1231guys, i get this problem in the yakuake: i have the tabs transparrent by default, but only the first tab which i open is actually transparent, the others, if u open them, aren't. is this normal or smth?01:37
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tankI see I was trying to use the server connect thing locally like a hard-drive01:39
tankdoesnt work that why...01:39
tankit should :P01:39
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tankthis room is way to hot...01:40
tankuhh as in the room I'm in...that the channel lol01:40
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tankits like 90 in here01:41
moodydlaczego jak wpisuj w powoce polecenia rpm albo make to mi zwraca - polecenie nieznane ?? ;/01:41
boris_do anyone knows any good page for torrents01:42
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boris_is there good music01:43
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moodywassup boris ?01:43
moodyya , i think so01:43
boris_like old rock01:43
moodyyes ,01:44
boris_lynard skyinards01:44
moodyi don't know01:44
moodylook there01:44
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boris_ok, thanks01:44
su-hoenshas anyone here installed XML::Parser?01:45
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greywolfsu-hoens: yeah, I have01:45
aguitelanyone know how install firefox in kubuntu ?01:46
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Stranger1231apt-get install mozilla-firefox01:46
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AstroGirlCan anyone tell me how to create a symlink between two places, please? My efforts so far "ls -s /home/me/Media /mnt/linux/me/Media" doesn't seem to work. :(01:47
aguitelcan enable this with  Adept ?01:47
Stranger1231i guess01:47
greywolfaguitel: yeah, just search for firefox01:47
boris_do anyione haves Lyinard skyinards01:47
boris_Lynard Skynards01:47
Stranger1231adept sucks, install synaptic01:47
boris_or video01:47
aguitelhow install synaptic?01:48
Stranger1231same way) apt-get install synaptic01:48
AstroGirlOops, I mean't ln -s01:48
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AstroGirlEither way, it doesn't work for me.01:48
Stranger1231what does it say&01:48
moodydoes anybody know where is polish ubiuntu channel ?01:48
AstroGirlone tic01:49
fkmStranger1231: Why does Adept suck?01:49
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moodywhere is poland :P01:50
Stranger1231synaptic is just better01:50
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AstroGirlI answered my own question. I wrote ls -s.. :p :p thanks anyways. :)01:51
fkmI agree that the search in Synaptic might be an advantage for slow computers01:51
greywolfmoody: #ubuntu-pl01:51
aguitelone question ,how i know if my  wireless network is working ?01:52
moodythx greywolf01:52
greywolfmoody: sure01:52
moody[01:52]  [Informacje]  Szukanie serwera #ubuntu-pl:6667...01:52
moody[01:52]  [Bd]  Connection to Server #ubuntu-pl lost: wyszukiwanie nazwy nie powiodo si. Trying to reconnect.01:52
fkmaguitel: If you're still online when you unplug your ethernet cable ;)01:52
moodywattafak ?01:52
greywolfmoody: it's a channel ;)01:52
moodyok , it's on :P01:53
greywolfmoody: not another server01:53
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Stranger1231guys, i get this problem in the yakuake: i have the tabs transparrent by default, but only the first tab which i open is actually transparent, the others, if u open them, aren't. is this normal or smth?01:53
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aguitelfkm,windows have network light below in the bar01:54
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Angelushello i just saw a site, does ubuntusatanic really exist?01:55
navetsdoes anyone here know of good VoIP software for linux?01:55
Stranger1231Angelus: i've seen it too01:56
fkmaguitel: What windows? And do you use KNetworkManager or something else?01:56
Angelusdid you try it?01:56
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Stranger1231no, i never got it01:57
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werswith kpackage and rpm installed, does that mean that I can install rpms without using alien?01:57
Stranger1231seen screenshots too, nothing special01:57
Angelusno, you must use alien01:57
Angelusi saw the screen shots01:57
nosrednaekimwers: where did you get rpm for debian?01:57
Angelusthey look nice01:57
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nosrednaekimscreenshots of what?01:58
Stranger1231satanic and all?=)01:58
wersrpm from the official repositories I gues01:58
Theorywers: you may be able to install packages. It is possible (but very unlikely) the things you install will even work. it will certainly result in breaking your system somewhere down the line when you try to update01:58
nosrednaekimwow.. I didn't know it was in there. I would think using it would be dangerous to say in the least01:59
Angelusnosrednaekim: ubuntu satanic edition01:59
nosrednaekimoh!.... I LOVE the login screen for that!01:59
wersTheory, I guess, I wouldn't bother installing rpms with KPackage01:59
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wershas anyone here tried kpackage? It looks good to me.. I wonder why Adept is the default gui installer instead of kpackage02:00
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nosrednaekimbecause adept is better for apt.02:00
nosrednaekimI think kpackage is more of a general-use thing.02:00
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wersoooh.. and it seems that it is dangerous for non-debs02:01
Stranger1231what's the default installe in debian? adept?02:01
nosrednaekimsynaptic I believe, maybe aptitude02:02
wersI don't know with debian, but for Sidux (debian sid), it's kpackage02:02
lufthanzaStranger1231: apt-get no doubt02:02
Theorykubuntu seems to favour adept02:02
AstroGirlI'm having trouble with the symlink again. I'm trying to use it with Ktorrent, but Ktorrent doesn't seem to know how much of the files have been downloaded through the symlink.02:02
AstroGirlShould I have done something else?02:02
wersIf i'm not mistaken, Adept is sponsored by canonical02:03
wersI seem to read about it somewhere02:03
lufthanzaTheory: thats because adept is kde/qt based, while synaptic requires gnome and gtk libs02:03
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lufthanzagnome libs*02:03
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wersAdept Manager is a GUI to the Advanced Packaging Tool for KDE. Adept is developed by Peter Rokai and is sponsored by Canonical Ltd. through the Kubuntu project. Current release is 2.1.-Wikipedia02:05
boris_lynard skynards02:06
fkmStranger1231: Kubuntu changed from Synaptic to Adept. Debian in general doesn't have a default GUI as far as I know. So I guess yoou could say APT-GET is the default. But I think that's not what you wanted to know02:07
Sannewers: everything in kubuntu's kde is sponsored by canonical through the kubuntu project. So is everything that is in ubuntu's gnome.02:07
navetshey if somebody here wouldnt mind taking a look at my website and telling me how I could improve on things website is http://navetz.com02:07
boris_i need good download page02:07
Stranger1231fkm, thanks)02:07
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fkmYou're welcome :)02:08
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fkmnavets: Take out the background pictures :P02:08
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Stranger1231does anyone know how to change the types of documents, which u can create by right-clicking either on the desktop or in any folder?02:09
Stranger1231cause i have options there like "kword document", though i don't even have it installed )02:09
navetsfkm: awww i thought the background was cool02:09
fkmWell, let's say it's a question of taste. And I'm one of those over idealistic webdeveloppers ;)02:10
Sannenavets: try to get rid of validation errors, and I would really recommend to use the strict doctype for new websites. Also check out #web and #css for specific help. Validation result: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fnavetz.com%2F02:11
boris_here is no rock fans02:11
aguitelwers,if i will install synaptic ,can i  manage my update with it?02:13
wersof course, aguitel02:13
navetsSanne: i have only been doing this for about a month, so im not even to sure what the doctype does but I will definatly look into it02:13
wersbut what's the point?02:13
wersadept works and it's QT02:13
Stranger1231i guess it's just a matter of taste02:14
wersaguitel, it's just that, I don't think synaptic will come out of your system tray to notify you about updates02:15
Sannenavets: ok, then your HTML is not bad for a beginner :) I find this site a nice reference if you're starting out: http://www.htmldog.com/ And now we're definitely getting offtopic :)02:15
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aguitelAdept yes02:16
stdinwers: well, actually it will02:16
navetsSanne: haha thanks alot for the help, I will look into this02:17
boris_RGISTER linard02:17
Sannenavets: you're welcome :)02:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:17
boris_REGISTER linard02:17
wersI guess ubotu does not know music02:17
level1Hi, when I installed with the alternate install cd, it asked for my wireless password and somehow found my wireless network.  Now knetworkmanager doesn't have any options availiable, but somehow I'm able to be on the internet02:18
boris_but it will02:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about megadeth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:18
level1anyway, I want to fix that so I can choose which networks I connect to02:18
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:18
boris_i need to register somewer02:18
nosrednaekimlevel1: knetworkmanager is quite buggy... you can use wlassistant02:18
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boris_i will pay 100 yero02:20
boris_for lynard skynards02:20
boris_old cocertz02:20
nosrednaekim!register | boris_02:20
ubotuboris_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration02:20
level1nosrednaekim: can wlassist be run as a panel applet?02:21
werslevel1, I don't think so02:21
aguitelone question,is kubuntu stable like ubuntu gnome?02:22
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nosrednaekimlevel1: hmm.. no02:23
nosrednaekimaguitel: certainly02:23
boris_!register | boris_02:23
werslevel1, if you want dock wlassistant with kdocker ;)02:23
byteshackhow can I set kdm to be the default? gdm is taking over right now?02:23
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nosrednaekimbyteshack "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"02:23
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aguitelroot_ ,hola02:24
level1wers: how do you use kdocker?02:24
byteshacknosrednaekim: thanks02:24
nosrednaekimbyteshack: NP.02:24
werslevel1, install it, then when you run it, your mouse cursor will change. With that cursor, select the app to dock02:25
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stdinboris_: to register your nickname look at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup02:26
werslevel1, if you want to monitor your network, I guess knetworkmonitor will do.. I am just not sure if that is the name of the app02:26
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alex__NamShub: evo302:26
alex__ngon vaken ?02:27
alex__anybody awake ?02:27
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boris_stdin,, what do i do now02:27
stdinboris_: follow those instructions02:27
level1why is it almost half the time programs run with kdesu just don't run?02:27
Soutanelevel1: try using sudo instead.02:28
stdinlevel1: NO don't02:28
stdinsudo is for command line apps, not GUIs02:28
level1Soutane: wow, you should know that02:29
SoutaneWell, it would explain why kdesu isn't working for him if he's trying to run command line apps, wouldn't it?02:29
boris_it says thet my pasword is incorect02:29
stdinno, kdesu can run command line apps too, with no trouble. just sudo shouldn't be uses to run GUIs02:30
stdinboris_: have you registered ?02:30
level1Soutane: anyway, I'm talking about gui apps02:30
level1stdin: basically, the program just doesn't start.  I get the launch feedback but it doesn't actually work02:31
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stdinboris_: you need to register before you identify02:31
Sannelevel1: sometimes kdesu won't run if you just used sudo before. It has to do with the sudo timestamp that confuses kdesu. 'sudo -k' resets the timestamp and lets kdesu run again.02:31
nosrednaekimlevel1: yeah, I know what you are saying.... ussually its TK apps for me though02:31
stdinlevel1: I think it just happens sometimes with kdesu02:31
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level1hmmm... you'd think that this would be worthy of a bug report02:31
stdinlevel1: there may be a bug report on it, if not then defiantly report it02:32
Sannelevel1: IIRC it is already reported... I think I have the worjaround from a bug at launchapd.02:32
klobsterstdin: defiantly is the _only_ way to log bugs ^.^02:32
werswhy is that, when I was to apt-get remove bittorrent, it wanted to remove ubuntu-desktop as well?02:33
boris_i tipe register pasword, but it would not work02:33
Theorywers: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, allowing people to easily install all the packages needed to have a featureful desktop02:33
Theoryit does this by depending on lots of other packages, include bittorrent02:34
stdinwers: because gnome-btdownload depends on bittorrent and ubuntu-desktop depends on gnome-btdownload02:34
wersyep, so how do I uninstalll bottorrent without removin ubuntu-desktop?02:34
level1thats weird... why does the launchpad timeout error page  recomend that I tell them about the error?   Why don't they just have the server register the error and look at the reports?02:34
stdinboris_: you type "/msg NickServ REGISTER PutYourPasswordHere"02:34
stdinwers: you can't02:35
Sannelevel1: kdesu bug is reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/kdebase/+bug/5097102:35
boris_NickServ- The nickname [boris_]  is already registered02:35
wersisn't it ironic that the metapackage, ubuntu-desktop, depends on a package such as gnome-bitdownload?02:35
jhutchinswers: ubuntu-desktop isn't really a package, it's a meta package that lists as dependencies all of the packages that make up the ubuntu desktop.02:35
stdinboris_: then you have to pick another name02:35
Theoryinstalling ubuntu-desktop will not take away your desktop02:36
jhutchinswers: So if you remove a package that it "requires", you remove it too.  All of your other packages stay though.02:36
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jhutchinswers: Since they're in the apt database, they'll get normal upgrades and such.02:36
wersso that means that even if I uninstall the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, my gnome packages will stay?02:36
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Theory(you might want to avoid doing autoremove afterwards though)02:37
stdinwers: you will need to reinstall it when you upgrade to the next version of ubuntu though02:37
jhutchinswers: I'm not absolutely positive that if you explicitly remove ubuntu-desktop, but I know that if it's removed because you remove something else it doesn't do anything.02:37
stdin(or it is HIGHLY reccommended)02:37
wersokay.. do you know how I set Ktorrent as my default bottorrent client instead of bittorrent?02:37
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jhutchinswers: get a torrent file or create one on your local machine.  Right-click on that file and choose "Open With".  There will be a checkbox to remember the file association.02:38
jhutchinswers: That's the easy way.02:38
aguitelwhat about Beryl in kubuntu desktop?02:38
wersYeah, i know that, but I want to change the default client02:39
wersi guess, i will just remove bittorrent02:39
stdinwers: right click the torrent file, Open With -> Other > Remember application association for this type of file02:39
wersthanks, stdin! :)02:39
wershas anyone here successfully synced a pocket pc with Kubuntu Feisty?02:40
wersthere is a known bug that synce-kde does not work with feisty and it has been about three months since I started trying to find a workaround02:40
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jhutchinswers: That will change the default, or you can go in through the settings and change the file association there.02:41
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werswhat settings jhutchins? in kcontrol?02:41
raymondhow do i make it so clicking the middle button on my mouse in firefox opens links in a new tab?02:42
wersall along,  it's in file associations! haha.. I have done this for dolphin before02:42
klobsterso my system randomly locked up last night, and then today locked up at the kde login prompt, and when it rebooted showed several fsck errors ( inodes multiply attatched, lost chains, etc), and this time it did boot, but it it took a long time to get to the login screen.  Anyone know how I can diagnose this?02:43
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jhutchinswers: I think it's something like helper applications in konqueror.02:43
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wersI managed to do it in kcontrol02:43
wersit's also much faster their because of the search feature02:44
aguitelwhere is kcontrol?02:44
jhutchinswers: settings/file associations.02:44
wersalt+f2 then enter kcontrol02:44
wersjhutchins, I just used the search feature in kcontrol. that's why I prefer it over system settings02:45
Sanneklobster: I would start with a memory test, there's one on the desktop cd (memtest). Let it run for a few hours.02:45
jhutchinsThe right-click method is easier when it's something like a sound file and you want to change a whole range of associated extensions.02:45
klobstersanne: there is one at the bootup screen in grub as well, no?02:46
Sanneklobster: there is, but I would think it better to use an external test... since something in your system might be broken. Just to eliminate that possibility.02:47
klobsterit was strange.  at one point I could switch to a tty screen,but after I entered my username it would hang before it even asked for a password02:48
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klobsterSanne: ok, I will try the disc.02:48
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werswow.. I just found a katapult-like open source app for windows--> http://www.launchy.net/02:48
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Sanneklobster: I also had some weird issues once that turned out to be bad memory.02:48
Sanneklobster: good luck!02:49
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MVBox2hi all02:49
cameron_where do I get mp3, wma, flac decoders for Amorak?02:49
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nosrednaekimcameron_: "libxine-extracodecs"02:50
nosrednaekimfor mp3 at least02:50
nosrednaekimwma might also be in there... but i'm not sure02:50
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MVBox2i can't save any new configrtion's , can i do that using command line or ssh ?02:51
nosrednaekimcameron_: thats a package BTW, not a site02:51
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MVBox2any advice ?02:52
cameron_IU know, I'm getting it's then going to tell u if it works02:52
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wershas anyone her successfully installed katapult fast track? it looks like a good app but is hard to install02:53
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rodrigoany one of you can tell me how to installl a spanish dictionary to check the sepelling in that language with open office?02:55
rodrigoor kword?02:56
Aranelsaki_knin: hey, i think u must change your password :)02:56
saki_knini will go locko02:57
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saki_kninili popizdi cu02:57
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saki_kninstdin, i have register02:58
saki_kninevryone knows my pasword :902:58
stdinsaki_knin: you can change it02:58
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saki_kninbut i need Lynard skynards02:59
saki_kninfuck the pasword02:59
stdinsaki_knin: watch the language!03:00
stdinsaki_knin: to reset your pass /msg NickServ SET PASSWORD NewPass03:00
saki_kninand now wath03:01
cameron_it didn't work03:02
stdinyou are registered03:02
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saki_kninhow thet help me03:02
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stdinyou wanted to register, now you are03:03
moodyon http://www.nvidia.pl/page/drivers.html i must take a x64 or x8603:03
moodywtf ?03:03
saki_kninand i want Lynard Skynards03:03
moodyhow to check ?03:03
saki_knindownload it03:04
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moodyx64 ?03:04
moodyx86 ?03:04
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cameron_I re-installed Amarok and it worked..., W00t03:04
stdinmoody: which did you install, amd64 or x86?03:05
moodyi don't know03:05
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moodyi've got kubuntu03:05
moodybut i don't know anything more03:05
saki_knin Lynard Skynards03:05
saki_knini wont to lisen03:06
stdinmoody: ok, run "dpkg --print-architecture"03:06
saki_kninthere is no on minova03:06
saki_knin Lynard Skynards03:06
saki_kninand youtube03:06
stdinsaki_knin: if it has nothing to do with Kubuntu support, take it to #kubuntu-offtopic03:06
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moodyso 86 ?03:07
stdinmoody: then you get the x86 version, but why not install the package from ubuntu?03:07
wolferinecan someone help, when I vnc into my other box, I see no desktop03:08
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moodydisplay can't see good sterowniki :P03:09
jhutchinswolferine: What do you see?03:09
wolferinejhutchins, blank background, and maybe a shell03:09
wolferineshell in a window03:10
moodyand my resolution max is 102403:10
wolferinewhat the hell03:11
jhutchinswolferine: You were hoping to see the active desktop, right?03:11
wolferineit was because I wasnt logged into the system yet03:11
wolferinethats retarded03:11
jhutchinsYeah, all the VNC clients are a little wierd about what they're trying to do.03:11
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jhutchinswolferine: It sould be obvious that if you wanted your own login, you'd just use X forwarding.03:12
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wolferinewhat do you mean?03:12
aguitelwhen Adapt is finish installing updates and upgrades is neccesary to restart?03:13
Soutaneaguitel: nope.  Linux is not like Windows in that regard.03:13
stdinaguitel: only if it tells you, in the system tray, otherwise not03:14
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cameron_How do I install Java?03:17
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stdincameron_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java03:18
wolferinecameron_, consult the ubuntu guide03:18
wolferinecameron_, google, 'ubuntu guide'03:18
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cameron_I already installed the runtime files from adept maneger03:20
cameron_but it's not working on firefox, but the website just gives me  Sun Java6: sun-java6-plugin03:20
aguitelcould i install Beryl with :apt-get install beryl ?03:21
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stdincameron_: you need to install the plugin, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin03:21
stdinsaki_knin: yes?03:21
saki_kninthey have kick me03:21
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stdinyes, I saw03:21
cameron_should I go ahead and uninstall the runtime files?03:21
saki_kninfrom thet irc03:21
stdincameron_: no, the plugin needs that03:22
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sparrI have a locale archive file (I think) that my localedef cant or wont read.  Any ideas on getting data out of it?  I would like to remove some locales.03:25
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specialbuddywhat program should I use if In want to shorten up a song so that I can make it a ringtone03:33
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robotgeekspecialbuddy: audacity03:35
specialbuddyI tried that and it doesn't work03:35
robotgeekspecialbuddy: define "doesn't work"03:35
specialbuddyI keep getting an error and don't know how to fix it so I thought I would try something else03:35
robotgeekspecialbuddy: what error are you getting?03:36
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specialbuddywell it works now03:37
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robotgeekspecialbuddy: :)03:37
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specialbuddyI was reading that some people had the same problem03:37
robotgeekwe are all miracle workers here!03:37
specialbuddysometimes it doesn't work03:37
specialbuddyit kept saying something about output03:37
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tankhey :P03:39
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TimK65Hi, is anyone here familiar with the soundKonverter application? It's giving me trouble.03:40
tankeveryone is having sound problems today...sorry I cant help ya03:40
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rodrigoI can't access to  adept installer03:42
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rodrigohow can I close all the programs that may don't let it work?03:43
stdinrodrigo: what happens when you try to open adept?03:43
rodrigoit says this Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one03:43
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stdinrodrigo: open konsole and run " sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a "03:44
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stdinrodrigo: all one line, including the " ; "03:44
rodrigostdin: thanks let me try it03:44
rodrigook now?03:45
MVBox2stdin, what these command doing ?03:45
rodrigostdin: ok now what do i do?03:45
tankis it possible to save ssh information so I dont have to re-type it every time?03:45
stdinrodrigo: adept should work now03:46
rodrigook let me see03:46
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stdinMVBox2: the 1st one kill any process using dpkg and the 2nd one tells adept to complete anything it was doing before03:46
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rodrigostdin: hey thanks what was the problem?03:46
stdinMVBox2: erm, tells dpkg, not adept03:47
stdinrodrigo: sometimes, when adept crashes or is interupted it doesn't clean up properly03:47
MVBox2stdin,mmm thanx alot03:47
stdinnp :)03:48
stdinany other letters you want to test?03:48
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MVBox2my must proplem on kubuntu that i can't save my new configrtion's r there any way to do that cli ?03:49
robotgeekMVBox2: what configurations?03:49
MVBox2network configrtion: wlan,gateway ip ..etc03:50
robotgeekMVBox2: well, the file is in /etc/network/interfaces if you are NOT using knetworkmanager03:50
Sergiu1MVBox2: click apply twice03:50
stdindid you press the administer mode button ?03:51
MVBox2no becus ther's error in the medule :(03:51
Sergiu1MVBox2: what you natal language?03:51
Sergiu1what is*03:52
MVBox2and knetworkmanager dosn't save any new changes03:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:52
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ubotuFor the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa03:53
Sergiu1MVBox2: try again , i also experience the same error ...03:53
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:54
Sergiu1try again to change the value03:54
stdinMVBox2: it's a cue fot ubotu03:54
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Sergiu1i don't think it's an error03:54
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ioioioioiiiiohi, will kubuntu gutsy have kde 4?03:55
LopinOkay...  I'm trying to boot a cd version, off of my hard disk, and it's hanging, and doing some odd things...03:55
MVBox2i donno but i don't care about GUI so that why i'm asking how it's don using CLI :)03:55
stdinioioioioiiiio: no, not by default03:55
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stdinMVBox2: like robotgeek said, the file is in /etc/network/interfaces if you are NOT using knetworkmanager03:56
elite101hey lol03:56
robotgeekMVBox2: "man 5 interfaces" is also useful03:56
LopinAnyone know how to use a kernel off of a cd, on a hard disk, and how I put it in grub to get it working right...03:57
elite101uhhh i cant get why i install from the livecd that when im running it off the HDD it doesnt show the install option?03:57
elite101:P jk03:57
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elite101but my "ath" pci wireless card does not work in kubuntu when installed on the HD? only on the livecd? why is this?03:58
LopinIs anyone listening?03:58
LopinTo any of us?...03:58
robotgeeksure we are03:58
Sergiu1elite101: maybe you need to configure it?03:58
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LopinOkay...  Can anyone help me with configuring my kernel so it doesn't get stuck in a loop...03:59
elite101i know that03:59
AondoSergiu1  it's you? :D03:59
elite101but its not showing up in the network option03:59
elite101its shows ETH03:59
Sergiu1Aondo: yea :)03:59
elite101but not ath03:59
robotgeekLopin: you would need to put entries in /boot , add entries in menu.lst (for grub) and put modules in the correct places04:00
robotgeekLopin: plus, i am not sure if that would even work04:00
LopinI'm just to the point where I'm trying to figure out what options to send to the kernel...  It's locking up after a momment, talking about starting kjournaled, and trying to mount the floppy as an ext3 file system...04:01
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LopinAnd, it'll just sit there and read the floppy forever if I'd let it...04:01
ioioioioiiiiojust read the ars technica review of it and it looked really cool04:02
LopinI have the contents of the kubuntu live disk in a folder called kubuntu on my hd...  I have an entry in the grub list pointing to the vmlinuz, and initrd.gz in the casper folder...04:02
ioioioioiiiiohow stable is the current gutsy kubuntu04:02
Biovoreit isn't yet..04:03
stdinioioioioiiiio: it's a development version, it's stability changes, but the place to ask is #ubuntu+104:03
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specialbuddyhow do I find a file with beagle04:04
specialbuddyI can't find anything04:05
malcolmbDo you have the beagled service running?04:06
specialbuddyI think so04:06
specialbuddyyeah it's started04:06
specialbuddyand I downloaded Kerry04:06
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LopinWhat does the preseed file do?04:08
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LopinOkay...  I'll be back...  I'm gonna try this again...04:09
Lopinroot (hd0,0)04:10
Lopinkernel (hd0,0)/kubuntu/casper/vmlinuz append file=(hd0,0)/kubuntu/preseed/kubuntu.seed  boot=(hd0,0)/kubuntu/casper initrd=(hd0,0)kubuntu/casper/initrd.gz root=(hd0,0) rw --04:10
Lopininitrd (hd0,0)/kubuntu/casper/initrd.gz04:10
specialbuddydoes it take a long time to index everything with beagle04:10
specialbuddybecause I'm not finding much04:10
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tankdoes anyone happen to know the location that TCL installs when you apt-get tcl8.404:13
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Littlebootstank: have you tried "whereis TCL"04:14
tankno brb thanks04:14
tanktank@Server:~$ whereis TCL04:15
stdintank: dpkg -L tcl8.404:15
tankhmm that seems to have worked04:16
Littlebootswhereis worked too, just needed to lowercase the tcl =/04:16
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sparrI --force'd a package to install despite broken dependencies.  How can I tell apt to ignore those broken dependencies as I do other things?04:17
tankahh I see thanks Littleboots04:17
mimiki have a second hard drive i mounted, it keeps crashing every time i access data from it04:17
mimikwhat's wrong?04:18
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festerI have samba and nfs. My object files are set for sharing. How do I make these  shared files available on my local network?04:19
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tankok...so if a program says my tcl version is way to old and apt-get upgrade doesnt work should I download it from the website and do what?04:23
tanksorry bad question I know04:23
stdinwhat program??04:24
milesis Biovre in here?04:25
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elite101well he is but04:26
elite101not responding04:26
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elite101u mean Xchat04:26
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elite101im using Konversation?04:26
milesis that what it is called?04:26
elite101why not u that04:27
stdinmiles: use tab04:27
tankI'm trying to install an eggdrop bot on a server04:27
elite101are u running kubuntu?04:27
milesooooooo thanks04:27
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elite101well its good i guess looks way better than Xchat04:27
milesso anyways, does anyone here program in C?04:28
milesor c++?04:28
elite101yeah biovore does04:28
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stdinbut that's -ot04:28
ardchoillestdin: I'm sorry ;)04:28
milespeople at work were clownin me today because i am studying C04:28
milesbut im the only true linux user there...they just dont get it04:29
ioioioioiiiioeew c++ :(04:29
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elite101whats wrong with C++?04:29
milesyea or C?04:29
stdinC++ is better than C, just look at it's name04:29
elite101lol haha04:29
milesyea, im studying C as a precursor to C++04:29
milessince C++ is pretty much C OOP04:30
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elite101well if study instead of being a A student why not a A++04:30
elite101lol yeah04:30
ioioioioiiiiointerpreted languages are vastly quicker and easier to program in, and produce less bugs usually04:30
elite101:P a very bad one04:30
elite101i meant to say04:30
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stdinioioioioiiiio: and have a ton of overhead/bloat04:30
navetshow do you create a gradient with gimp04:30
elite101If u study and become good u can be a A student or even a A++ student04:31
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milesC has given me nothing but a greater understanding of programming in general04:31
nosrednaekimioioioioiiiio: faster? haha yeah right.I like python and all, but you are WRONG04:31
ioioioioiiiiowell some are getting much better, haskell for instance04:31
elite101whats python?04:31
nosrednaekimelite101: programming language04:31
elite101a programing program?04:31
ioioioioiiiionosrednaekim, quicker to PROGRAM in04:31
nosrednaekimoh, yeah, I agree with you there04:31
elite101any one here heard of DEFCON15?04:31
elite101;) its may favv. thing04:32
mileselite101: ya04:32
elite101i wish i can go there thou04:32
stdinerm, this is too offtopic04:32
milesif you go there, the feds track u04:32
ioioioioiiiioc is awesome for things like the kernel, graphics, etc04:32
stdincontinue it in #kubuntu-offtopic04:32
milesthey might be trackin me right now04:32
milesuh oh04:33
jmancinei cant get wireless on kubuntu, i dont know how to install the driver,anyone know?04:33
milesC helped me understand what "System.exit(0)" does in java04:33
nosrednaekimjmancine: sure.... what chipset do you have?04:33
stdinjmancine: you need the bcm43xx-fwcutter package04:34
nosrednaekimjmancine: are you on wired riht now?04:34
Sergiu1KDE4 will not be in the next realize of kubuntu ?04:34
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milessergiul, no it will not04:34
jmancineits installed through adept04:34
nosrednaekimSergiu1: nope04:34
milesadmiral ackbar says, "its a trap!"04:35
Sergiu1miles: why so04:35
ioioioioiiiiodoes kubuntu come with the same drivers etc as ubuntu?04:35
jmancineyes im on wired04:35
elite101lol i still got KDE 3.5.204:35
stdinjmancine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%2904:35
stdinSergiu1: no04:35
stdinSergiu1: kde4 won't be ready for 104:36
Sergiu1ioioioioiiiio: yes04:36
nosrednaekimioioioioiiiio: yes04:36
milessergiul: why so what?04:36
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milesadmiral ackbar or kde4?04:36
Sergiu1miles: kde4 won't be read for 104:37
Sergiu1now i it's clear04:37
mileso, sorry, i was googling for a pic of admiral ackbar saying "its a trap!"04:37
elite101who program's for kubuntu distro? any of u ppl in here?04:37
elite101can u put my name in the start up? lol :P04:37
stdinelite101: no04:37
elite101Welcome to ELITE101 KDE404:37
ardchoilleDoes the flash plugin not owrk on some sites?04:38
elite101well who does program for kubuntu?04:38
stdinardchoille: the flash plugin version 9 should work04:38
elite101u guys are rele smart? i bet u program things after but i mean like acutally be apart of the team :)04:39
ardchoillestdin: It doesn't seem to work on sopme sites, have a look at http://www.johnnycash.com/  it asks me to download and install it04:39
nosrednaekimelite101: lots of people, why?04:39
elite101ohh well none of uguys?04:39
mileselite101, kubuntu.org has the developers names on it04:39
elite101i was wondering since its free and all do they get paid? or is it something they do for other ppl04:39
milesthe main ones04:39
stdinardchoille: works fine, just click on that guys face :p04:40
stdinelite101: that don't get paid04:40
Sergiu1ardchoille: works fine04:40
ardchoilleAh, ok04:40
elite101they* or that*?04:40
stdinelite101: *they don't get paid04:40
elite101well who funds the kubuntu and the livecd shipment? i would really like to get Xubuntu...if its any good?04:41
elite101last question^ ;)04:41
stdin!offtopic | elite101, unless it's a support questuon, ask it in #kubuntu-offtopic04:41
ubotuelite101, unless it's a support questuon, ask it in #kubuntu-offtopic: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:41
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holycowlets see how clever you are now04:52
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holycowappearently not very04:53
milesi dont get it04:53
holycowi kid i kid04:53
milescan u explain it at least?04:53
holycowwhich part04:53
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holycowthe part about where you aren't clever04:53
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:54
holycowthe part where you are copying from bash.org?04:54
atrocityis there a reason my sound sounds...crappy...in linux but crisp in windows?04:54
holycowi'm buggin ya miles :)04:54
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holycowno biggie, post away04:54
holycowspend some time on it, its a fun site :)04:54
nosrednaekimatrocity: do you have an HD audio card?04:54
master_nick Uli04:55
milesi am using a cli irc client, and my shell is bash, i was wondering how you knew that?04:55
atrocityit sounds like it's getting bass'ed out or something04:55
elite101anyone here using a USB DOGGLE that worked rite off the bat and is very cheap?04:55
elite101if so what is the brand and model #04:55
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nosrednaekimatrocity: what are you using to play the audio with?04:55
atrocityflash player in a browser and xmms04:56
atrocityboth sound the same04:56
master_i'm spanish, i have a problem. I stole menu bar in kopete. How i can add? thanks04:56
master_nickname ulises04:56
nosrednaekimatrocity: hmm, ok. if you use amarok, you can modify the equalizer to get rid of bass. but for flash..IDK04:56
stdinmaster_: Ctrl-M (and there is a #kubuntu-es)04:56
pepe_kubuntu.es is fall04:57
atrocitythe bass is all the way down04:57
atrocitybut it's like..muffled04:57
elite101anyone here using a USB DOGGLE that worked rite off the bat and is very cheap?04:57
atrocitylike in a shitty sound system when bass cracks because the speakers are too loud04:57
nosrednaekimatrocity: hmmm.... yeah....04:57
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:57
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atrocityeep, sorry04:58
stdinpepe_: #kubuntu-es not #kubuntu.es04:58
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nosrednaekimatrocity: I've never debugged audio quality before ;) maybe go over to #alsa04:59
elite101well then does anyone have a USB doggle that worked without using any ndiswrapper or something?04:59
master_how change my nickname?04:59
domelite101,  any of them.  i've used "Sandisk Cruzer", "Lexar Jumpdrive", etc05:00
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atrocitykk, thanks :)05:00
elite101lol SD makes an wi-fi doggle?05:00
nosrednaekimI think he means a wifi dongle05:00
elite101yeah sorry05:00
elite101i should of said that05:00
elite101but is anyone useing a USB WIFI Doggle rite now that didnt have to go threw anything like ndiswrapper?05:01
elite101im a person who cant use ndiswrapper because it doesnt like me. and i dont like it and in my world everything is click-boom and it works :)05:02
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moodymoody@moody:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:04
moodysudo: gedit: command not found05:04
moodywhatthefak ?05:04
holycowinstall gedit05:04
holycowthen do gksudo gedit instead05:04
moodyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee aha05:04
holycowdon't use sudo with gui apps05:04
stdinmoody: no, use kdesu kate05:05
moodycan i replace the gedit with kate ?05:05
atrocitylol, why not?05:05
stdin!kdesu | atrocity05:05
ubotuatrocity: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:05
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holycowyou aren't replacing anything05:05
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holycowyour just installing another text editor05:05
moodyso ...05:05
moodymoody@moody:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:05
moodysudo: gedit: command not found05:05
moodyso ....05:05
moodymoody@moody:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:05
moodysudo: gedit: command not found05:05
stdin!paste | moody05:05
ubotumoody: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:05
moodysorry guys05:05
holycowjust remember for gnome apps you use gksudo, for kde apps you use kdesu05:05
atrocityubotu: eep, kk, lol05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eep, kk, lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:05
atrocityi'll have to remember to stop doing that then05:06
stdinmoody: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:06
atrocity...did i just talk to a bot?05:07
Sergiu1atrocity: you did05:07
ardchoilleatrocity: Yes05:07
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Sergiu1sorry for offtopic05:07
ardchoillemoody: Don't use sudo for gui apps, use kdesu or gksudo05:07
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ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info05:08
Sergiu1i forget that this is kubuntu official support channel05:08
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stdinSergiu1: just look at the /topic05:08
Sergiu1stdin :P05:08
Sergiu1ok, sorry again05:08
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nosrednaekimactuallly, you use gksudo while in gnome,and kdesu while in kde05:09
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holycownot entirely correct05:09
holycowyou use gksudo FOR gnome apps and kdesu FOR kde apps05:10
elite101im a person who cant use ndiswrapper because it doesnt like me. and i dont like it and in my world everything is click-boom and it works :)05:10
nosrednaekimreally? kdesu synaptic works fine05:10
holycowyou can run anyone one you want at any tim ehowever, regardless of environment05:10
holycowso does sudo synaptic05:10
holycowlol :)05:10
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ardchoilleholycow: Actually, I just use kdesu for all gui admin tasks in kde05:11
nosrednaekimwell yeah...05:11
elite101everytime i use my microwave my dog barks and the tv burns out? someone said its because i didnt port-forward05:11
elite101is this so?05:11
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:11
stdinelite101: again, that's ok in -offtopic, but not here05:12
elite101sorry lol05:12
elite101its was a funny but i do have a prob05:12
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moodyi'm installed drivers for graphic card , should i reboot for use it ?05:12
elite101my wireless05:12
stdinmoody: just restart X05:12
elite101crtl alt backspace?05:12
moodyhow to restart x with command ?05:13
stdinmoody: logout, and press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace05:13
stdinyou'll want to logout first05:13
ardchoillemoody: logout, then:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:13
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nosrednaekimor log out-> sessions menu->restart x server05:14
stdinalmost the same as logout and c-a-bs05:14
nosrednaekimyeah, but I hread once that ctrl+alt+bkspce did n't restart SOMETHING. I forget what...05:15
Littlebootsit restarts x05:15
stdinit restarts KDM, all KDM does is start X05:15
stdinonce X exit's KDM just restarts it05:16
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nosrednaekimahh... i'm tired..... c ya'll05:16
stdintired? ha, it's 4:16am here05:16
nosrednaekimyou POOR creature.05:17
nosrednaekim11 pm here05:17
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stdinI'll just connect a coffee IV tomorrow05:17
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moody#ubuntu-pl ?05:19
moodyok it's on :P05:19
moodyi try to connect :P05:19
moodyand it's ok05:19
WigglesI have a problem05:19
stdinif you don't ask no one can answer05:20
Wigglesdoes anyone know how I can move files from a Vista installation on to my usb drive via a live cd?05:20
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stdinmount the ntfs partition and copy over05:21
Wigglesi'm not sure what you mean05:21
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Wigglesi'm new to linux altogether05:21
Sergiu1does he know hot to mount the ntfs parition ?>L)05:21
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:21
milesWiggles: admiral ackbar says "its a trap!!1"05:22
stdinWiggles: that link tells you how to05:22
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banjooieOkay, so, I'm running a program that hasn't been updated for some time. Like, a couple years05:25
banjooieOr, rather, trying to install it. It's asking for 'xlib6g'05:25
banjooieIf I'm to understand, this no longer exists. What do I do?05:25
moodysudo gedit in kde i can replace with ?05:25
banjooieI use nano.05:25
moodykdesu kate ?05:25
stdinmoody: kdesu kate05:25
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banjooieSo, since xlib6g has been removed entirely, is there anything I can do to get this program to work?05:26
moodyX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16905:27
banjooieOoh, the 'KDE thinks you have a tablet' problem05:27
stdinmoody: ignore that05:27
stdinbanjooie: only if you find an old source package for it and compile it05:27
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banjooie...So if I compile it from source, it won't need it05:28
stdinbanjooie: and it's nothing to do with KDE05:28
banjooieNo, I mean the bad device thing was KDe.05:28
banjooieNot the xlib thing, it's obviously a debian thing from my attempts at googling.05:28
stdinbanjooie: no, if you compile that xlib6g thing from source05:28
banjooieThe problem here is: I cannot /find/ xlib6g. I am to understand it conflicts with some other thing which is why it was removed.05:29
stdinbanjooie: no, the bad device error is nothing to do with KDE05:29
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banjooieWell, the xorg.conf thing.05:29
stdinyou're kinda stuck then05:29
WigglesAhhh, Thanks everyone!  (sorry for late reply, I was afk)05:32
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jhutchins!bad device05:33
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors05:33
banjooieOkay, another question, then. Maybe I'll be lucky this time.05:34
banjooieHow do I make Print Screen stop opening ksnapshot?05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksnapshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
jhutchins!info ksnapshot05:34
ubotuksnapshot: screenshot utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 172 kB, installed size 432 kB05:34
jhutchinsbanjooie: Your answer lies either in a local man ksnapshot, /usr/share/docs,  or the help within ksnapshot.05:34
jhutchinsbanjooie: Or you could just uninstall the dang thing.  I got a new keyboard and I end up with about six per day.05:35
elite101hey is there a screen capture program for kubuntu instead of using Hypercam2 like an open-source free on that doesnt have to be paid for?05:35
elite101lol @ jhutchines05:35
jhutchinselite101: ksnapshot05:35
elite101no its doesnt make movies05:36
jhutchinsBy default, bound to the printscreen key.05:36
elite101i mean record the whole screen and what i do05:36
jhutchinsHrmn.  Yes, but I don't know what it's called.05:36
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elite101lol hold down the printscreen button and then it will record 30 pics per secound ;)05:36
banjooieWell, see, I /have/ uninstalled it.05:36
banjooieI've tried that.05:36
banjooieAll that does is make it so when you hit ksnapshot05:36
elite101does it work05:36
banjooieIt gives an error message, 'can't find ksnapshot'05:36
banjooiethis is equally as irritating05:36
elite101lol 30gb been wasted on that snap shot thing i had the button stuck came back i was 2gb short of 500gb :P05:37
jhutchinsGonna have to go into kcontrol and fix keyboard shortcuts.05:37
elite101lol jk05:37
banjooieAnd I've googled it to no end05:37
banjooieall I see is 'We should make print screen start ksnapshot'05:37
banjooieIt's like the very idea of not wanting this to occur is so baffling as to destroy /minds/.05:37
elite101lol hypercam2.exe works good with wine and records in .avi05:37
stdinelite101: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts05:37
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elite101thanx stdin,05:39
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banjooieWhat the05:39
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banjooiewhy the sweet hell was it under /regional and accessibility/.05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about laguage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
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elite101i suck05:39
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:39
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.05:39
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:40
ubotuSaying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.05:40
stdin!botabuse | elite101, banjooie05:40
ubotuelite101, banjooie: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:40
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elite101by the bot"05:40
milesu scared him05:40
elite101i gotta go go go05:40
milesgo where?05:41
elite101lol to bed bed bed05:41
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elite101good night all05:41
elite101nighty night05:41
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stdinI was hoping you'd say "to pee pee pee"05:41
mileshow do you get rid of the bouncy icons in kde?05:42
milesi hate them!05:42
holycowinstall gnome05:42
stdinturn off launch feedback05:42
holycowi'm kidden05:42
ubuntu_hey people05:42
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mileskde > gnome last time i checked05:43
zimmois there any way of letting my cd-driver working normal?05:43
milescli > kde > xfce > gnome05:43
zimmoit can bear the whole install05:43
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zimmoit can not bear the whole install time... the cd-drive fails!05:43
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gost87who this?05:44
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jhutchinsmiles: xfce > kde for certan cases.05:50
ubuntu_hello its rele elite101 i have to keep IRC chat open because ppl constantly chat and it wont dis connect me off the wireless since im on the live cd too05:50
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juancamilohi all05:51
juancamiloi need help burning a cd, Im using k3b05:51
milesjhutchins, xfce > kde on my work laptop05:52
elite101wow livecd runs faster than windows05:52
mileskde > xfce on my pc at home (using right now)05:52
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jhutchinsYeah, since about 2003 Linux GUI has surpassed windows.05:53
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juancamiloI want to burn an .iso image on a cd with k3b and it says "Cdreocrd has no permission to open the devie"05:53
jhutchinsjuancamilo: Tell us the problem is.  Do not tell us what doesn't happen, tell us what does happen and what you thing should happen instead.05:53
milesjuancamilo: i would open up konsole, type "sudo k3b" and then try05:54
jhutchinsjuancamilo: Ok, that's good.05:54
elite101tell us what the problem is *05:54
stdinmake sure you're in the cdrom group05:54
elite101lol u sayed thing? the letter G is not even by the letter K05:54
jhutchinsactually, under k3b's options should be a k3b setup that sets things to run with the correct permissions.05:54
juancamilothanks let me try that05:55
stdinmiles: if you did sudo k3b, you'd be wrong05:56
milesjust a guess05:56
stdin!kdesu | miles05:56
ubotumiles: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:56
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mileswhenever i get an error about permission, i try same operation under sudo05:56
milessee i didnt know that05:56
milesbut that sure does help05:56
jhutchinsYeah, I'm must be nodding off, kdesu k3b at best.05:56
jhutchinsmiles: You can end up pretty much having to reinstall from running certain stuff as sudo instead of kdesu.05:57
stdinor just deleting your $HOME05:57
mileswhere is kdesu?05:58
milesdo i need to apt-get?05:58
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stdinmiles: read what ubotu said05:58
jhutchinsThere is definitely something not working with the ubuntu scheme to force sudo on people.  We end up with a LOT of people running way too much stuff under sudo.05:58
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stdinjhutchins: better than having them login as root05:58
nomad111in ubuntu my external NTFS hard drive used to auto mount when plugged in how can i make this happen in kubuntu? is there a way that does not involve editing /etc/fstab?05:58
jhutchinsI guesss part of it is the Windows mentality where sooner or later you give up and run everything with admin privileges.05:59
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jhutchinsstdin: Yeah, well some of the just unlock root and start running that way full time.05:59
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nomad111it doesnt auto mount05:59
milesstdin: i read it twice, i dont get it05:59
nomad111and i have to run mount command every time05:59
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nomad111which is getting annoying05:59
jhutchinsnomad111: Why wouldn't you want to edit fstab?05:59
jhutchinsnomad111: I don't think that's the soluition here, but why?06:00
nomad111well did ubuntu do that behind the seens?06:00
stdinmiles: "use  kdesu  to run graphical applications", apt-get is not a graphical application06:00
nomad111because it worked in ubuntu06:00
milesno no, i mean, i cant find kdesu, should i DL it via apt-get?06:00
nomad111i dont want to go in and play around with files when there may be a simpler solution06:00
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milesor is it installed by default?06:00
jhutchinsnomad111: Ah, so you don't want to change a fundimental part of the system...06:00
nomad111miles: its installed by default06:00
stdinmiles: kdesu is installed with kubuntu06:00
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nomad111jhutchins: precisely!06:00
jhutchinsnomad111: dude, playin' around with conf files is what linux is all about!06:00
WigglesHow can I directly delete files without moving them to trash?06:01
jhutchinsnomad111: Keep backups, and hack on!06:01
stdinWiggles: hold down shift06:01
enzo_What is the install for vmware-workstation?06:01
nomad111ye but it will give me an error (although not catastrophic) every startup if the drive is not plugged in06:01
Wigglesthanks again06:01
jhutchinsnomad111: Ok, the problem is that those very system fundamentals are being moved into being handled by the gui (which is WRONG).06:01
stdinenzo_: you go to vmware.com, download it and install it06:01
enzo_stdin: Isn't it in the repos?06:01
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jhutchinsnomad111: Anyway, it has to do with the way that the system handles detecting the device, and i will leave you to soberer, better rested heads than mine.06:02
stdinenzo_: no, it would be illegal. vmware-player is in the repos, not vmware-workstation06:02
nomad111jhutchins: you're more enthusiastic than me when it comes to play around in the OS06:02
enzo_Thank you stdin06:02
nomad111jhutchins: hehe im a noob at that stuff06:02
jhutchinsnomad111: Exerience is proportional to data destroyed - go out there and get some!06:03
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nomad111jhutchins: im currently doing a subject at university that involves playing around with an operating system06:04
greywolfI want to install libgtk2.0-dev, but it says that it's conflicting with libgtk1.3-dev...06:04
nomad111have to put uCLinux on a microchip and write a program to run on it06:04
jhutchinsHm.  Significant atmospheric phenomena here, i think we'll go listen-only for a while06:04
greywolfbut I just did sudo apt-get remove libgtk1.3-dev and adept still thinks the package is going to break06:04
greywolfand libgtk1.3 isn't even showing up in adept at all :\06:05
juancamiloso i try that way but it didn't work propertly, first time I got an "input/output error. Not necessarily serious." at 5% and k3b recomended to use tao to solve the problem, but i got the same result...??06:06
greywolfany ideas on what's going on?06:06
juancamilothis is the first time i try this on kubuntu and i don't know what to do next? anyone?06:07
underdog5004juancamilo, try ignoring it the error06:08
underdog5004or try popping in another burner...maybe you have a bad one06:08
yukinoalguien sabe como instalar06:08
underdog5004!es | yukino06:08
ubotuyukino: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:08
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juancamilo?? how? there is no option to do that...06:09
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se7en^Of^9what do i do if i have unmet dependencis06:16
titanix88everyone silent?06:16
se7en^Of^9python-qt3: Depends: python-sip4 (>= 4.7) but 4.6-1ubuntu3 is installed06:16
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titanix88se7 it should not happen when installing from repo06:18
titanix88se7 it should not happen when installing from repo06:18
moodyanybody here smoke ?06:19
titanix88moody i hate.06:19
se7en^Of^9titanix88: i know but it did any idea how to fix it06:19
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vzduchse7en^Of^9: you're probably not installing from a repo, my (installed) python-qt3 shows python-sip4 4.5 as a dependency06:20
moodyi smoke from four months , it's stupid bleeee06:21
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titanix88se7 sudo apt-get install -f06:21
moodyi begin because a girl :P:P:P06:21
moodyso anyone is smoking now ?06:21
milestitanix88: what does the -f param do?06:21
moodyi don';t like to smoke alone :P06:21
se7en^Of^9i have done apt-get -f install and fix-missing doesn't work06:22
titanix88miles fixes broken dependencies06:22
milesok thx06:22
titanix88moody rejected by a girl?i remember myself being a linux geek for same reason.:)06:24
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titanix88se7 trying from a repo?06:24
titanix88se7 trying from a repo?06:24
moodytitanix88:  great lolc :D06:25
moodyok , where is flame , there is - cheers :C06:25
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TooEarlyjhutchins: are you around?06:26
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TooEarlyor does anyone in here use tovid GUI? or another dvd video burning program06:27
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titanix88se7en^of^9 trying from a repo?06:29
titanix88hi tooearly06:30
TooEarlyhi titanix8806:30
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nagahamayes hi06:33
nagahamais this for ubuntu?06:34
titanix88more preciously for kubuntu06:34
nagahamado u know06:34
nagahamathe channel06:34
nagahamafor ubuntu?06:34
jsaboI'm having issues with file sharing from my windows machines connecting to kubuntu.06:34
nagahamai need help installing beryl :S06:34
nagahamatitanix u know any of the administrators?06:35
titanix88nagahama #ubuntu06:35
mileswell if #kubuntu is the channel for kubuntu...i wonder what ubuntus irc is06:35
WaltzingAlongmiles pick me!!! i know !!! #ubuntu !!06:35
jsaboit's asking for a username on my windows machince06:35
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=== WaltzingAlong thanks miles
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jsabowhat do i put in as the user to connect to my share on kubuntu06:36
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WaltzingAlongjsabo: which type of share?06:36
titanix88nagahama go to ubuntu forams for compiz fusion06:36
bobby123on the net?06:37
bobby123boby = nagahama06:37
WaltzingAlongtis all on the net06:37
bobby123ok i'm very new to this lopl06:37
WaltzingAlongwell or #beryl06:37
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vzduchWaltzingAlong: how about #ubuntu-effects?06:37
bobby123can i ask you something06:38
WaltzingAlongvzduch: or that06:38
titanix88compiz fusion is built on top of beryl and faster06:39
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milestitanix88: i originally used beryl, switched to compiz could i heard they were remerging, and compiz kinda blows compared to beryl06:39
milesso i switched back06:39
milesit ran like crap for me06:39
titanix88bobby u can google to find a lot of good tuto06:39
titanix88miles compiz{shit}+beryl{juicy}=compiz fusion{great}06:41
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:42
milesi wonder, maybe i got compiz, and not compiz-fusion06:42
miles!find compiz-fusion06:42
ubotuPackage/file compiz-fusion does not exist in feisty06:42
titanix88stdin sorry!!!!06:42
milesthe only thing i liked about compiz that beryl didnt have was the os x show desktop06:43
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titanix88miles compiz fusion actually means compiz+compiz-extra-plugins06:44
mileso.......yea, the compiz i got seemed kinda scarce06:44
milesi guess that is where the fusion comes in,no?06:45
titanix88miles yes beryl=compiz extra06:45
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milesberyl still runs better than compiz tho...06:46
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unclephreakwhats up peoples?06:47
stdinmiles: you mean #ubuntu-effects ?06:47
milesyea whatd i say?06:48
milesive never been in there, only seen it flash by06:48
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titanix88miles i have a nv mx4000 and both of them but cf seems more reliable,smooth and faster.06:48
jsaboshould I do simple sharing or advance sharing?06:48
miles7900gt <--06:48
stdingeneral channels are always ubuntu ones (the exceptions being #ubuntu and #ubuntu-devel)06:49
unclephreakanyone seen the new version of devede? and any bugs? (3.1)06:49
TheCreationistAnyone know how to get full ANSI support for telnet?  I've tried using the console ("telnet"), QTerm, and a few others, but none of them display properly.06:49
milescompiz seemed to look smoother as i rotated the cube...but it craps out if i got more than 2 windows open, beryl can handle more windows easily06:49
robotgeekTheCreationist: try rxvt-unicode06:50
titanix88thecreationist u mean unicode right?(cause ansi is what most app in the world supports!)06:51
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TheCreationisttitanix88: I just mean that when I telnet into a BBS, most of the ANSI graphics are displayed crazily.06:51
TheCreationistrobotgeek: That will work with any app I use after installing that?06:52
robotgeekTheCreationist: its just a console, so i guess so06:52
TheCreationistrobotgeek: Oh, okay.06:53
titanix88miles try compiz fusion. it's better.06:53
TheCreationistrobotgeek: Well, that still didn't work.06:53
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milesyea, im about to reformat, i guess if you install 32bit kubuntu on AMD64, you can run flash06:54
milesbig mistake on my part06:54
stdinmiles: you can run flash on amd6406:54
robotgeekmiles: why not try gnash?06:54
stdin!flash64 | miles06:54
ubotumiles: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava06:54
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milesrobotgeek, i got gnash, it blows06:56
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titanix88i wonder does all apps in duel core linux uses both of them simutaneously? xp can't do that06:57
milesstdin, i think read that tutorial before, im just gonna reformat...06:57
stdinmiles: up to you, but that works06:57
milesi dont feel like doing a work around...64bit processors are nothin but hype anyways06:57
vzduchtitanix88: well, the apps only ask the kernel for CPU resources, it's the kernel that distributes them06:57
milestitanix88, linux will handle as many cores as you can throw at it06:57
stdintitanix88: I'd think the kernel would decide what goes where06:57
milesi know when you compile stuff, you can specify how many cores you want to use06:58
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stdinmiles: you can choose how many threads, not cores06:58
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titanix88that's the advantage.in xp to use duel core, the app must do it by itself.06:59
milesstdin, pretty sure you can specify number of cores06:59
stdinI doubt it06:59
milesi think its "-j <<# of cores>>"06:59
stdinmiles: no, that's threads -j06:59
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carlosAlguin sabe como se llama el .iso en donde estan los paquetes de complementacion del buntu 7.0407:00
titanix88miles why not use 64bit version of ubuntu?07:01
milesi am using the 64bit07:01
milesstdin, u pulled a fast one on me07:01
TheCreationistHow do I enable IBM extended ASCII in telnet clients?07:01
mileslinux kernel in a nutshell says "-jx" is used to make compilation multithreaded, where x = number of processors to use07:01
milesso its 1 thread/core...i guess u could say we were both right, u more so than i07:02
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titanix88read man telnet07:02
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titanix88most people of the world can not take advantages of dual core as they run xp.so sad...07:05
underdog5004vista doesn't use more than one core if the license isn't for more than one core...07:06
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milestitanix88, not that im tits at computers, but most people wouldnt know what to do with more than 1 core07:06
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vzduch[07:05:51]  < titanix88> most people of the world can not take advantages of dual core as they run xp.so sad...  most ppl of the world cannot take advantage of dual core as they don't have a dual core CPU ;)07:08
titanix88i know what they do.they say"i have dual core!!"07:08
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carloscomo puedo conseguir el resto de paquetes de ubunto que no bienen con el cd07:08
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:08
miles!es | carlos07:08
ubotucarlos: please see above07:08
carlosubuntu perdon07:08
titanix88vzduch lol :)07:08
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milesdoes anyone think its funny his name is carlos and he speaks spanish?07:08
unclephreakmost people dont take advantage of having a 1Ghz processor running xp07:08
kalorin`I just want to overlock my opteron07:08
kalorin`it's a wee bit overclocked now but I want to put it up like 2.66hz07:09
kalorin`ghz rather07:09
kalorin`it's not like the good ol' days anymore07:09
kalorin`too much frustration trying to oc' them07:09
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patrick_hey folks. how does one enable 'show hidden files and folders' in Konq in KDE4?07:10
atrocityanybody know how to make a webpage viewed in firefox for windows look the same under linux?07:10
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atrocityas in...font differences07:10
atrocityusing just standard web-fonts07:10
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underdog5004patrick_, View -> Hidden Files and Folders07:11
stdindon't use proprietary fonts and they'll look the same07:11
patrick_underdog5004: i don't have that option07:11
patrick_oh boy...07:11
underdog5004patrick_, h/o07:11
Carnage\Don't put any html between <body> and </body> *scnr* :)07:11
Carnage\atrocity: You may try setting the same default fonts07:11
titanix88kalorin` there is a processor freq controler in "ubuntu"07:11
patrick_underdog5004: dont see that07:12
rodrigohi any one can help me with adept installer07:12
kalorin`atrocity: render it as a .pdf :)07:12
atrocityOK :P07:12
underdog5004patrick_, View -> Show Hidden Files07:12
kalorin`freq controller?07:12
patrick_underdog i followed the instructions on the web page to install KDE4. i rebooted07:12
patrick_it's .. missing things07:12
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patrick_my konversation is missing my identity and settings07:12
underdog5004patrick_, try asking in the kde channel...kde4 is still very beta07:13
patrick_did i do something wrong perhaps?07:13
patrick_ok i think i'll go back to 3.x07:13
underdog5004you installed kde407:13
stdinrodrigo: ask your question07:13
titanix88it is an applet.07:13
kalorin`oh yeah for laptops07:13
kalorin`this is a desktop07:13
kalorin`with an opteron 16507:13
rodrigostdin: it looks that the software doesn't upload the new packages07:13
stdintitanix88: that's not for overclocking either07:13
stdinrodrigo: what do you mean?07:14
kalorin`it's stock at 1.86ghz but it will run solid at nearly 3ghz if you can get the ram and everything worked out and cooperating07:14
kalorin`but it's a ton of trial and error :(07:14
rodrigostdin: iI fetch updates07:14
titanix88stdin apolizes for not knowing that07:15
miles!es | rodrigo07:15
uboturodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:15
rodrigostdin: I press full upgrade07:15
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Scorpaenmuch better07:15
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ScorpaenKDE4 is too beta for this patrick_07:15
rodrigostdin: and it doesn't do anything07:15
rodrigolol my english is so bad???07:15
stdinrodrigo: that means that there are no updates for you right now07:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:16
stdinrodrigo: your english is fine07:16
unclephreakare your universe and multiverse repositories enabled?07:16
rodrigostdin: ok thanks!07:16
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stdin!ops | titanix8807:18
ubotutitanix88: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!07:18
vzduchstdin: too late :P07:18
robotgeekstdin: what?07:18
underdog5004what the heck was that?07:18
underdog5004whoa...it was a bot command...07:19
underdog5004I feel smarter already...07:19
stdinrobotgeek: ug, too late, was half way between channels then07:19
unclephreakhey stdin i just got a dvd burner and converted a few avi files to dvd format and burned them.  my dvd player recognizes that it's a dvd but keeps giving the message "wrong disk" any idea of why this is oging on?07:19
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unclephreakgoing on too07:19
titanix88stdin: my apologies isn't from fear,just genuine.07:20
unclephreakis it something with the authoring, or do i need to make a dvd menu  so my player knows where to start playing or something?07:21
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WaltzingAlongubotu: we should really change the name from factoids07:21
vzduch*omfg* the Pope has been nominated 'accessory wearer of the year 2007' for wearing red shoes under his garment..07:22
hasanE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:22
hasanE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:22
hasanbot: help me07:22
stdinunclephreak: i wouldn't know, it would depend on the player07:22
WaltzingAlongruby red, of course!07:22
vzduch!aptfix | hasan07:22
ubotuhasan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:22
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unclephreakno worries.  i just installed devede 3.1..  im gonna give that a shot.  cos i know my dvd player plays burned dvds.  i can copy them just fine, but i think theres something going on wiht the authoring07:23
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WaltzingAlongunclephreak: i have had lots of success on conversions with devede, feel free to post the results07:24
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unclephreakyea, i love devede, i mean it worked awesome for making vcds and svcds just fine and they all played...  im converting a file right now, i'll let you know how it goes.  im gonna try putting in menus this time tho.  devede 3.1 has menus and a couple extras i saw07:26
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titanix88oooopsss...how does it sound?:)07:29
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dvmHow can I enable the GTK Text Entry widget to accept Unicode Charaters?07:33
titanix88anyone there?07:34
vzduchthe westher is cr*p and I gotta go.. l8ter :)07:34
titanix88dvm it does by default.07:35
Daisuke_Idowhat is westher?07:36
dvmtitanix88, But, i can't type in local language in gtk text entry, i can able to type other places like gedit etc.07:37
titanix88dvm are u a developer?07:37
dvmtitanix88, ya07:38
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titanix88outof my scope dude.consult a gtk developer manual or irc or mailing list.07:39
dvmtitanix88, is their any property, i need to enable?07:39
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titanix88dvm: maybe wide character support(from my little programming knowledge)07:41
dvmtitanix88, I couldn't type, but, i can able to copy and paste unicode(tamil) chars07:42
sirjoshimusanyone here know how to get wine to work right on 64-bit amd?07:43
stdinsirjoshimus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64 ?07:44
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titanix88dvm: i use bagla everywhere on my ubuntu.no problem07:47
dvmtitanix88, thnx man, let me try07:47
titanix88dvm: what for:?07:48
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:51
titanix88dvm: i guess ur thnx means "no thnx,u already doubled my comfusion" lol :D07:52
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mecannotreadguys i need shockwave plugin where can i get it08:08
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stdinyou can't08:08
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mecannotreadstdin  : you meant icant get it08:09
stdinmecannotread: adobe don't make shockwave for linux08:09
stdinmecannotread: only flash08:09
mecannotreadstdin: ok i want to play flashgames on the www.miniclip.com  but i need flash08:10
stdinflash you can get from the package flashplugin-nonfree, but not shockwave08:10
mecannotreadstdin: is there a replacement  for that08:10
mecannotreadstdin: should i do it by apt-get08:11
stdinit's in multiverse08:11
mecannotreadstdin ok thanks  for info...08:11
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hasanhi gusy08:13
hasanhow can i make stardict stay on top of other windows ?08:13
stdinhasan: right click the window title (or press Alt-F3) > advance > keep above others08:14
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pierre__anyone know of a way to make the kde clock match my taskbar_08:19
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hasanfind /home/hasan -name star*.tar.bz2 -print08:29
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hasanwhy that does not files starting with star and with tar.bz2 extension in my home directory ?08:30
hasanhasan@truefx:~/downloads$ find /home/hasan -name star*.tar.bz2 -print08:30
hasanfind: paths must precede expression08:30
hasanUsage: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression] 08:30
gsevilafter run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, my screen refresh rate only 60Hz, I restore the old xorg.conf file, but it didn't return to normal. Windows is running well08:30
stdinhasan: put it in quotes -name "star*.tar.bz2"08:32
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pierre__adept broke my system08:34
Daisuke_Idohow so?08:35
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pierre__it asked me to update and i said yes08:37
pierre__then it crashed and now i cant use apt-get08:37
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:37
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pierre__it just spits out /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/N: failed to write cache08:39
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persenHi, just removed my soundcard and try to use my usb-soundcard instead. But the mixers (alsagui and kmix) cant find any sound devices it looks like.. The USB soundcard is recognized in "lsusb" as "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0582:0011 Roland Corp. Edirol UA-5 Sound Capture".08:45
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persenAny tips on how to "enable" this soundcard? it should work out-of-the-box with the usb-snd driver i think08:45
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zero1328um, does anyone here know about the kde sound system? I checked and it was called "aRTs" or something08:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:47
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:47
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zero1328um.. It's not that I have a problem with it, i'm wondering what the command is to use it from something like the terminal08:48
stdinyes , aRts the "analog real time sound" system08:48
stdinthe arts daemon08:48
zero1328I want to play this ogg file on my gmail notification program, but I don't know what to put in08:49
zero1328aplay churns out static for an ogg, but it's fine for a wav08:49
stdinthat's because aplay is for wavs08:50
zero1328I've realised that through trial and error08:50
stdintry "oggdec filename.ogg -o - | aplay - "08:50
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stdinor just install sox and use "play filename.ogg"08:51
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zero1328hm.. being a newb I don't understand half of the first command you gave me, but I'll try sox instead08:52
persenDoesnt XMMS support OGG ?08:54
stdinzero1328: oggdec decodes oggs to wav, "-o -" means output to "stdout" '|' is "pipe/pass the output to the next command" then "aplay -" tells aplay to read from stdin (yes, that me :) )08:54
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persenor amarok08:54
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stdinpersen: from the command line?08:54
persenDont think so08:55
panQuestion- how do I change KDE's default filemanager to Dolphin?08:55
stdinthen that's not what he wants08:55
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zero1328if you look up a little, I'm trying to set my gmail notifier to play a sound, and that requires putting in a command08:55
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stdinpan: (in konqueror), settings > configure konqueror > File Associations > inode > directory08:56
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persenHm, under Sound in KInfoCenter my USB sound card is listed in the "Audio devices:" section. And it is the only device that is listed.  Under "Mixers:" i see a USB Mixer listing. But i get no sound output. Anyone know of what i might do to enable this sound device ?08:59
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jmdwyerevening kubuntu peeples09:00
jmdwyerevening kubuntu people09:01
jmdwyerquestion.....rockwell isa modem, can it be done?09:01
robotgeekjmdwyer: i would recommend you look on the wiki, i am not sure offhand09:02
jmdwyerI'm wikified09:02
jmdwyerI got a conexant to do the trick but I beat my head against rockwells for about 3 days with the wiki09:02
persennice ! it works now.. needed to asoundconf set-default-card UA5 !09:02
jmdwyerbtw fyi 233 pentium ibm thinkpad 770 running kubuntu here09:03
jmdwyerand doing fairly well09:03
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jmdwyergood job persen09:04
pierre__i think adept broke my system09:04
jmdwyerno, adept did not break your system09:04
pierre__i tried to do sudo dpkg --configure -a09:04
pierre__./usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache09:04
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jmdwyerapt-get -f install09:05
zero1328thanks for the help stdin, both work equally well. hm, gotta write it down somewhere...09:05
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stdinzero1328: the command line is all powerful :p09:05
jmdwyerwoohoo command line is king09:05
pierre__jmdwyer: getting the same errors09:06
pagpierre__, which errors? (sorry, just joined)09:06
jmdwyerdernit I dont know the clear-all for dpkg right off the top of my head09:06
jmdwyerits something to the order of dpkg --clear something, someone help me I'm fuzzy09:07
pierre__pag i\ll upload it to bash... sec09:07
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pierre__i mean pastebin :P09:08
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Daisuke_Idowhy is apt throwing out font errors?09:08
pierre__dont know, im new09:09
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pagjmdwyer, sudo apt-get clean  ?09:09
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pierre__maybe i need a reboot?09:09
pagpierre__, try reinstalling OOo (or just remove it, if you don't need it)09:10
pierre__ok here goes09:10
ben__hey, can someone help me? My floppy won't mount, the light glows continulously09:11
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pag!floppy | ben__09:11
ubotuben__: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone09:11
jmdwyeris the cable on backward ben?09:11
pierre__Updating fontconfig cache...09:11
pierre__/usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache09:11
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jmdwyerred line away from power on floppies09:12
pagpierre__, so still the same?09:12
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pierre__pag:  yup..09:12
pierre__that horrible adept program should be removed from kubuntu09:12
jmdwyeradept is evil, use apt-get09:12
pierre__well if its in the OS it should be stable09:13
pagpierre__, " find /usr/share/fonts /usr/local/share/fonts /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d -type d -print0 | xargs --null touch "  (from the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/122976 I hope it also works)09:13
persenhow do i check my CPU speed from the command line?09:14
jbrouhardtype cat /proc/cpuinfo09:14
jmdwyerpierre have you tried dpkg --clear-avail then apt-get update?09:14
jmdwyerthen apt-get -f install09:15
jmdwyerben you with us?09:16
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ben__im back now sorry09:16
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jmdwyerwas the cable backerds?09:16
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ben__I edited my /etc/fstab file and that made no difference09:17
zero1328argh, clumsy, clumsy me. I forgot to copy what stdin said, describing what that command did.. could someone copy paste that for me? I was gonna write it down09:17
jmdwyersolid light from power on till the cows come home right?09:17
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ben__no, just when i run the mount command jmdwyer09:18
ben__I type the command in (sudo mount /media/floppy0/) and command line gives no respose, it prety much freezes09:19
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stdinzero1328: oggdec decodes oggs to wav, "-o -" means output to "stdout" '|' is "pipe/pass the output to the next command" then "aplay -" tells aplay to read from stdin (yes, that me :) )09:19
zero1328phew, thank you very much again09:20
jmdwyerben what distro?09:21
jmdwyerfeisty ok09:21
jmdwyerlemme see breezy had an issue09:21
ben__yea hmmm, I tryed various commands to get it to go09:21
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ben__mount /dev/fp0/09:22
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ben__I tells me when there is no disk in there09:22
jmdwyer"/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto,umsdos,vfat,ext2 rw,user,noauto 0 0" in the fstab?09:22
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ben__no I have only been using auto09:23
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ben__which should work :s but i will try your way09:24
ben__jmdwyer: unfortunatly it's still doing the same old bs09:25
ben__What would I type into terminal to get the ls -l output for the floppy?09:27
ben__cd into /media/floppy0/ then use ls -l??09:27
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pagben__, either thet or  ls -l /media/floppy0/09:29
Daisuke_Idowhat's this "floppy" thing you're talking about?09:29
Daisuke_Idodo i jhave to use !language ?09:30
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Daisuke_Idosorry.  the later it gets the worse the jokes get.  i'm going to bed09:30
jmdwyerafter a reboot?09:31
jmdwyerI know reboots are for windows users but.....09:31
ben__I'm trying to mount my floppy disk Dai, atmitantly only so I can install xp sata drivers on install09:31
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ben__Ofcorse I won't be removing linux ;)09:31
Daisuke_Idoben__: installing xp in vmware?09:31
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ben__no on the hdd09:32
jmdwyerso you are attempting to install xp drivers in your froppy dlive?09:32
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ben__I want to play games, and linux has shit games09:32
Daisuke_Idounreal tournament?09:32
Daisuke_Idodoom 3?  quake 4?  enemy territory?  MINESWEEPER?09:32
ben__Well my motherboard does not emulate IDE, and xp has no sata drivers, so I press F6 and insert a floppy before its installing09:33
jlodenI had a power outage last night, and the UPS totally failed to keep my kubuntu machine from losing power and shutting down, and it seems to have royally screwed up my partitions09:33
jmdwyerwhat exactly do you need other than whats in the repository for quake2?09:33
Daisuke_Idojmdwyer: the game09:33
Daisuke_Idoall the data files09:33
jmdwyeraso, I see the rub09:33
jlodenI am just interested at this point in salvaging as much of my /home as I can, and I am not sure how to proceed09:33
ben__I play fear, unfortunatly cedega does not support it09:33
Daisuke_Idojust because it's not supported doesn't mean it won't run09:34
Daisuke_Idoi play S.T.A.L.K.E.R.09:34
Daisuke_Idonot supported09:34
Daisuke_Idobut it works like a charm09:34
jlodenI ran fsck on the drive which took most of the entire day, then gave up on that and reinstalled kubuntu on top of the original / partition (/dev/sda1)09:34
ben__but won't performance suffer?09:34
ben__I really need high fps09:34
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Daisuke_Idoa lot of games actually run BETTER under wine or cedega than they do in windows09:35
Daisuke_Idoand if not better, the performance is pretty close09:35
ben__vista or xp09:35
jlodenso now I'm trying to restore any data I can from /dev/sda3 but I can't seem to mount the partition or do anything else with it...anyone have any tips or pointers?09:35
Daisuke_Idobecause it's not an emulator09:35
ben__yea it's a library I know09:35
Daisuke_Idojloden: can you use dd?09:35
solid_liqjloden: try to dd it,then play with the dd image09:35
jlodenwell, I have a full working system installed, so I have access to dd09:36
ben__Anyway looks like I'll have to use someone elses computer for floppies :p09:36
jlodenbut I'm not sure how I would go about copying my files off of a damaged partition using it09:36
ben__jmdwyer: Thanks for trying to help me though, I really apreciate it09:36
jlodenI've only ever used dd for creating sparse files and stuff like that09:36
jmdwyerquite welcome ben09:36
jmdwyerI'm kinda new to ubuntu ben, so my help is limited but I try09:37
Daisuke_Idocan one create another partition and use dd to image the bad partition to the new one?09:37
jmdwyerbeen around since breezy09:37
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jmdwyercan one possibly rsync the stuff out?09:38
Daisuke_Idonew != been around since the second release :D09:38
Daisuke_Idoi've been an on and off user since hoary09:38
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Daisuke_Idoevery six months or so i would dual boot, install ubuntu, not use it, and trash the partiton09:39
jmdwyerI went to the dark side for a while got an mcse and came back in time for dapper09:39
jlodendd's not a bad suggestion, since it can do raw copy it doesn't need to mount the drive to copy09:39
jlodenI'll try googling and see what I can find09:39
Daisuke_Idothen edgy came out and i said to myself, "self, you're going to get rid of windows"09:39
jmdwyergoogle is your freyund09:39
Daisuke_Idoso i did.09:39
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Daisuke_Idothat was 10 months ago09:40
Daisuke_Idoand i haven't looked back09:40
jmdwyerI said self, I'm going to make a living off that rotten bug ridden piece of trash called windows and populate my house with ubuntu boxes09:40
Daisuke_Idojmdwyer: essentially what i did09:40
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Daisuke_Idoexcept for making a living.  i have to use it for school.  in vmware.09:40
Daisuke_Idoi won't install it on my lappy09:40
jmdwyermy lappy wont DO windows09:41
jmdwyerwell 98 maybe09:41
Daisuke_Idobought an ubuntu dell :D09:41
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Ayabaradoes kmail have any support for microsoft exchange?09:41
jmdwyerI got a circa (note the use of the word circa here) 1997 Pentium 233 IBM Thinkpad 77009:41
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jmdwyerwith kubuntu full blown on it09:41
Daisuke_Idojmdwyer: that's a hot machine :)09:42
Daisuke_Idoall i have to say is: old games :D09:42
jmdwyer233 256 megs of ram, 20gb hdd 13.3 1024x76809:42
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jmdwyerfor 20 bux, it rock09:43
Daisuke_Idooh wow09:43
Daisuke_Idoi'd love to get my hands on one like that09:43
jmdwyerlemme talk to my guy, he's got a pile of em09:43
Daisuke_Idoi'm off to bed now, but i'm always around09:43
jmdwyerI'll be on this channel more frequently now that I decided to irc again09:44
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samananybody knows how one can run 2 kde at the same time by using ctrl+alt+(one of the Fbuttons)09:48
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jlodensaman: can you just start a new KDE session and switch between them using Switch User ?09:52
DjDarkmanhy, how can I access a shared printer on the network from a windows system?09:52
samanhmm... but the thing is... I need to start the other kde with the same user...09:53
saman... from the terminal09:53
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solid_liqsaman: why don't you just use xnest?09:58
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samanwhats that? is it to complicated to start kde from a terminal?10:04
stdinxnest is old, use Xepher10:04
stdin!info xserver-xepher10:04
ubotuPackage xserver-xepher does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:04
stdin!info xserver-xephyr10:05
ubotuxserver-xephyr: Next Generation Nested X Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-3ubuntu8 (feisty), package size 1523 kB, installed size 3844 kB10:05
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harmentalhey guys...is there any way to beautify the logoff screen??10:07
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stdinclose your eyes and think of a meadow?10:07
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Assidclose your eyes and think of a meadow ?!?!?10:19
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stdinit took you 12 mins to reply :p10:20
Assidi was reading the article about con leaving the kernel hackers10:20
Assidand basically how his patches helped the cpu scheduler improve for desktop users10:21
persenWho is con ?10:21
stdinwell anyway, I'm not sure how to change the logoff screen, but I'd bet the #kde people do10:21
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llutzpersen:  Con Kolivas10:23
Assidhis patches are marked as -ck10:23
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Assidthey shouldnt have mocked his beliefs..10:28
Assidif they atleast thought the user interface should have higher cpu schedule control.. that would make it on par with the macs10:30
Assidlike if i copy a file across.. would be nice that the scheduler still gives my ui more preferances than the actual copy process.. just slow the copying instead10:31
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filipe_Is there a way to change the priority with which spamassassin runs from kmail?10:37
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RivaeAeryaHow do you give all files in a directory that don't have an extension the extension ".smc"?10:38
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
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stdinRivaeAerya: erm "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.smc" "10:40
RivaeAeryastdin: quite a complicated one..10:41
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stdinyeah, but it works :)10:41
RivaeAeryai'll try it10:41
RivaeAerya[10:41]  <sauvin> RivaeAerya, ls | grep -v \.smc10:42
sauvinI'm here, too.10:42
sauvinWhat's the problem?10:42
RivaeAerya[10:42]  <RivaeAerya> sauvin: how would i make it rename things?\10:43
stdinRivaeAerya: the . means the current directory, -maxdepth 1 means only in that dir (not any lower), -type f means files, "-not -name "*.smc" " means thing that aren't called *.smc10:43
filipe_stdin doesn't that just catches all the files that do not end in smc?10:43
llutzfilipe_: ^^ it does10:43
stdinRivaeAerya: you can add -exec to it to make it run command10:43
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filipe_but that was not the question i think10:43
llutzit will also find foo.bar, urgend.txt ...10:43
stdinfilipe_: [09:38]  <RivaeAerya> How do you give all files in a directory that don't have an extension the extension ".smc"?10:44
RivaeAeryallutz: no problem, in that directory only .smc files are.10:44
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llutzRivaeAerya: you are searching for files without any extension to rename them?10:44
mecannotreadhow do i activate the choosen theme in emeral themer10:44
RivaeAeryallutz: yes10:44
filipe_"find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.*" -exec mv {} {}.smc ; i think is what you want10:44
RivaeAeryai'll try10:44
filipe_although i liked screwed up escapes and such10:45
stdinfilipe_: no, that will work10:45
stdinfilipe_: opps, no you need \;10:45
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RivaeAeryafind: ontbrekend argument van '-exec'10:45
RivaeAeryatranslation: "Missing parameter from -exec"10:45
llutz"find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.*" -exec mv {} {}.smc \;10:45
llutz  find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.*" -exec mv {} {}.smc \;10:46
filipe_yea i knew i screwed up some escaping :)10:46
RivaeAeryallutz: that works :)10:46
RivaeAeryallutz: thanks :)10:46
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sauvinllutz, you've just told me I need to spend some quality time with the man pages for find.10:46
RivaeAeryayep, really worked :)10:47
RivaeAeryathanks llutz10:47
llutzRivaeAerya: thank sauvin . his cmd10:47
adeniciohelp!how do i get back my desktop it gone black10:47
RivaeAeryathanks sauvin10:47
llutzerr filipe_:10:47
llutz<- time for a coffee10:48
RivaeAeryalol, thanks filipe_10:48
sauvinI didn't give that command. All I gave was a way for filtering out smc files in the current directory WITHOUT renaiming.10:48
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adeniciohelp!how do i get back my desktop it gone black10:49
adeniciohow do i get it back?10:49
filipe_You're welcome :). And thanks the others for the valuable \ :)10:49
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persenWhat program do i need to check my cpu temp ?10:49
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filipe_persen lmsensors10:50
stdinthere are a few, ksensors may be good (uses lmsensors)10:50
dhqwhich is the best typing tutor in kubuntu10:50
stdinyou learn how to type by doing :p10:51
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dhqstdin, ???10:51
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dhqstdin, no for me for my nephew10:51
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playahallo kann mir jemand helfen ???10:52
stdindhq: I'd think the people in #edubuntu would know better than me10:52
stdin!de | playa10:52
ubotuplaya: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:52
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persenJust read the con-kernelhacker article, to my surprise the linux scheduler is not targeted for responsive desktop use. I read somewhere in 2004 that the 2.6 version of linux should do just that.10:53
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emilsedghCould someone tell me how could I enabled the other Plasmoids of the Plasma in kde4 packages of Beta 1? Currently there is jyst the Clock..., and one more thing, The ExtraGear isnt packaged?10:55
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dhqemilsedgh, howz kde4 whats new10:56
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emilsedghdhq: if you want to know whats new, you should read 'Road to KDE4' articles on the dot...10:57
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dhqemilsedgh, link me10:58
stdinemilsedgh: there are no other packaged plasmoids right now10:58
emilsedghdhq: ok wait a minute10:58
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emilsedghstdin: and Extragear isnt packaged?10:59
pagdhq, http://dot.kde.org/ ;)10:59
stdinemilsedgh: nope10:59
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emilsedghstdin: Thanks very much...11:00
stdinemilsedgh: if you want a real kde4 experience you need to be running the svn version :)11:00
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emilsedghdhq: http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/dot?as_q=Road+To+KDE4&as_epq=&as_oq=dept.&as_eq=&num=10011:00
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emilsedghstdin: yes I know, but im on a damn Dialup connection, downloading Trunk is really hard...11:01
adenicio_stdin: there a folder in my etc root but i dont have permision how to get it.do i have to admim or root? but how do i change from one to the other?11:02
Martiinihei! How can I bring up KDE "first start configuration" screen (where you can set kde performance, language, window behavior)11:02
emilsedghdhq: thats not all, they are just some of big steps, if you want to know all, read past 2-3 years Commit-Digest's (http://commit-digest.org)11:02
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stdinadenicio_: sudo is the way11:02
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adenicio_stdin: there a folder in my etc root but i dont have permision to copy to it how to get it.do i have to admim or root? but how do i change from one to the other?11:02
emilsedghmark__: run kpersonalizer11:03
Martiiniemilsedgh: hei! How can I bring up KDE "first start configuration" screen (where you can set kde performance, language, window behavior)11:03
stdinemilsedgh: even if extragear was packaged, there would be no plasmoids in there :P they are all in svn right now (in the "playground")11:03
pagMartiini, install and run kpersonalizer11:03
emilsedghMartiini: run kpersonalizer ..11:03
Martiinithanks , bye11:03
filipe_adenicio use sudo -i to become root11:04
emilsedghstdin: hey! I didnt download whole this only to test Plasmoids! millions of new things are here!11:04
emilsedghstdin: I just wanted to test AmaroK, and Kaffeine, but it seems that Kaffeine4 is in playground too11:04
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Martiini .... I looked for that kpersonalizer setup window 5 hours last night :)11:04
Martiinishould have come here straight :)11:05
twosouls82kpersonalizer is it called11:05
stdinemilsedgh: I guess that's what the kde4 beta1 live CD is for11:05
twosouls82safes time in the future11:05
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emilsedghwihi, KDE Team did a really nice job! at last Bidi problems are solved in Kate and Konsole supports utf8 encoding and Bidi.It didnt work in Konsole of 3.x11:06
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emilsedghstdin: if i was able to download an Iso, then I was downloading svn Trunk! but yeah, thanks...11:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bidi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:07
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dromeranyone here with experience in running ubuntu (or other distro) on iMacs ?11:08
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emilsedghubotu: Thats for who use a RTL language...11:08
dromermy youthcenter has a ton of iMacs htat everybody get's pissed on fer being 1) slow 2) retarded11:08
stdinemilsedgh: it would only take about 34 hours on 56k dialup :p11:09
emilsedghfool me!11:09
sitowho play it m4p in kubuntu11:09
stdin600MB@5KB/s = ~34hours11:09
emilsedghstdin: lol11:10
emilsedghstdin: and then...that LiveCD doesnt support my Modem..., I cannot use it! :P11:11
stdinemilsedgh: you don't need the internet to test amarok :)11:12
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MartiiniSorry, offtopic, Where is the biggest kde development community? Are there more KDE developers in Germany or USA or UK ?11:13
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emilsedghstdin: yes, but 1)It was unable to access my harddrive 2)I want to try things while I do other things, like now, I mean these Kubuntu packages where better experience that KDE 4 Live, I tried them on last Alpha's, Unusable...11:13
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emilsedghMartiini: AFAIK most of them are in north Europe, there is a map on Commit-digest.org that shows you this...11:14
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stdinemilsedgh: the beta cd is better than the alpha1 or 2, but running kde4 in a little window in nice :)11:15
emilsedghthats the point stdin, having both of them...testing dolphin while talking to you at here and listening to music..11:17
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tezzaanyone have problems with streaming videos off mounted smbfs shares?11:18
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tezzaevery second or so it freezes for a split second11:18
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johannesNeuhi guys! can someone help me - got my kubuntu gutsy with kd4-development snapshot3 - want to develop for kde4 now ... don't now which directories & stuff i should use11:24
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stdinjohannesNeu: #ubuntu+111:24
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johannesNeustdin: thx11:25
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tQ es esto?????????11:51
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:52
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lionehello people such sing: after /etc/init.d/zaptel start next output: zaptel telephony kernel driver:FATAL: Module ztdummy not found11:57
lionewhat does that mean?11:59
lioneI have installed asterisk and zaptel on ubuntu server 711:59
yamallione: you still need to get the module on your system12:00
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lionewhere can I get it?12:00
yamalzaptel module is listed in 'module-assistant', try compiling from there12:00
lioneI'm using digium tdm 22b12:00
lionethere is no way to solve this without compilation?12:01
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yamallione: it probably isn't listed in module-assistant if there wouldn't be a need to compile it.12:04
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yamaland at least this way it's easy12:04
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tezzacould someone ping an address for me and let me know the results...12:09
pagtezza, "ping: unknown host an address" :P12:12
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pagtelling the address might help further experiments ;)12:13
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tezzalook in priv ;oP12:13
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pagtezza, you're not registered, are you?12:14
pag!register | tezza12:14
ubotutezza: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:14
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dhqhow to kill the usb device manager12:20
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pagdhq, kill <process id>12:22
pagdhq, you can search for pid  with ie.  ps aux | grep something12:23
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dhqpag, well i pluged in my pendrive12:24
dhqpag, it is not recognised and there is a message whcich keeps on looping12:25
pagdhq, hmm.. dunno then :-/12:25
dhq [929880.072000]  sdc : READ CAPACITY failed. [929880.072000]  sdc : status=0, message=00, host=1, driver=00 [929880.072000]  sdc : sense not available. [929880.072000]  sdc: Write Protect is off [929880.072000]  sdc: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00  [929880.072000]  sdc: assuming drive cache: write through12:26
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krowzcould someone help me with my wireless12:31
pag!wireless | krowz12:31
ubotukrowz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:31
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Strangerdoes anyone see what i'm writing?12:32
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dhqStranger, lol i see12:34
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leuswatz more better glom or kexi?12:41
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dhqhow to unload and reload  all modules without restart12:45
Lynoureleus: try both, and you'll see which is better for you12:45
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:01
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about joomla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:02
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francesco!channel #kubuntu-it01:03
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heeventhere arent any packages for joomla?01:03
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pag!find joomla01:04
ubotuPackage/file joomla does not exist in feisty01:04
heeven:( thanks01:04
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heeven!find apache01:12
ubotuFound: apache2, apache2-doc, apache2-mpm-event, apache2-mpm-perchild, apache2-mpm-prefork (and 160 others)01:12
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bubbleit_Folks anyone managed to get ubuntu working on a cobalt raq?01:12
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Gh0Sty2KFolks anyone managed to get ubuntu working on a cobalt raq?01:13
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emilsedghheeven: why do you want to install Joomla from a package? thats really not a good solution, I Think01:17
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heevenemilsedgh: just seeing if it have. i already have the tarball. now im having problems installing apache. it givesme one error with a library i think01:18
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emilsedghheeven: dunno, Apache is a common package, should work... sudo apt-get install apach2 ;)01:19
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heevenwith synaptic it givesme and error, with sudo apt-get it went nice :p01:21
emilsedghheeven: ah, I really miss synaptic in KDE.Adept is cool but that Search While typing makes me crazy!.also very bad informations while downloading..It should be improved01:24
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heevenemilsedgh: yap01:24
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GhOsty2Khow do i login to ssh on ubuntu, it wont recognise my pass01:25
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_ubuntuno offence with the nick its just that i am on a live cd01:25
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GhOsty2Knevermind sorted it01:25
heevenbut now i have another problem. he let me install things with sudo, but when i do "su -", i says "authentication failure", it shouldnt be the same password?01:26
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_ubuntucahoot: thanks for your help before as andyp startx worked fine01:27
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GhOsty2Khow do i change the permission for ssh on ubuntu ?01:39
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DragnslcrWhat permission?01:40
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GhOsty2KWell it seems like ssh is working, but wont give me permission to make changes to system files01:44
GhOsty2Kso i would like to know how i would go about changing permission settings using ssh?01:44
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DragnslcrProbably because the user you're logged in as doesn't have write permission to those files01:44
DragnslcrSSH doesn't affect permissions in any way. You have exactly the same permissions as you would if you were sitting in front of the computer01:45
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GhOsty2Kahh ok01:45
GhOsty2Kill investigate01:46
DragnslcrNormally only root can edit system files01:46
GhOsty2Kwhat would the password for root be?01:46
DragnslcrThere isn't one, normally01:46
GhOsty2Kproabbly be the same as my user then01:46
DragnslcrYou use sudo for root operations01:46
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GhOsty2Kbut when i ssh it wont let me login as sudo01:47
GhOsty2Kand when i login as root it wont accpet the password, im using winscp you see to do file operations and i cant sudo using that01:48
Lynourelogin as sudo? what's that?01:48
Lynoureyou mean login as root?01:48
GhOsty2K<<< newbie here!01:48
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DragnslcrYou'd have to scp the files to your home directory then use a shell login to move the files01:48
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GhOsty2Kohh well.. ill try that.01:49
LynoureGhOsty2K: usually good thing to forbid. you can  sudo su  to root if you really need to01:49
jajakie jest domyslne haslo dla superusera w systemie Ola Dom ?01:49
GhOsty2KLynoure np..01:49
GhOsty2Kwhats the apt-get name for zend optimizer?01:51
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xtfAm i all alone????????????????????02:00
xtfim such a newbie :-(02:01
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CerebralGumpIts just quiet at the moment02:01
xtfhey tell me hows xmms compare 2 amarok?02:01
CerebralGumpIt doesn't ?02:01
CerebralGumpAmarok > xmms02:01
xtfdoes xmms have all restricted drivers?02:02
xtf(im new to kubuntu)02:02
CerebralGumpthats a separate issue02:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:02
CerebralGumpthankyou ubotu02:03
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xtfi doint get lots of time on the net so im getting what i can my dads house02:03
xtfwindows brain washed me (fuck windows!!!) i think02:03
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:03
xtfoops !02:03
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xtfsorry to all!02:04
xtflast thing i want to know is, is there a aptoncd for kubuntu?02:05
xtfif some one can help me?02:05
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:05
xtfi want to put some stuff on a cd like aptoncd02:06
xtfso i doint need internet02:06
xtf(becuase i doint have internet)02:06
xtfsooo um can you help?02:06
CerebralGumpI'm googling02:07
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xtfso how old are u?02:08
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CerebralGumpTry this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35246002:09
xtfso how old are u?02:09
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CerebralGumpYou will need good bandwidth for this02:10
CerebralGumpIts an overnight job02:11
xtfdoint get it?02:11
CerebralGumpAnd 35GB free disk space02:11
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xtfok? sure? what?02:12
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CerebralGumpYou could probably ask someone to download it all for you02:12
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CerebralGumpSo you have them on DVD02:12
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xtfyea but who?02:12
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xtfi live in south africa02:13
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CerebralGumpYou have any friends with an unlimited broadband connection ?02:13
cryptSysinfo for 'erz0': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2500+ at 1837 MHz (3678 bogomips), , RAM: 374/503MB, 107 proc's, 2.40min up02:13
xtfi wish!02:13
xtfhey thanks for all your help02:14
CerebralGumpCould try something like this: http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/27802:14
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CerebralGumpAptOnCD wont do you any good unless you have a good broadband connection with which to create it02:17
xtfdamn i doint have that type of cash $29.95 (yet i will have to save up)02:17
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CerebralGumpDo you have any good PC places in Capetown ? ie. Where would you go if your PC died ?02:19
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xtfyes im sure there is one...02:20
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CerebralGumpYou could ask them if they will do it for you02:21
xtfnot a bad idea?02:21
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xtfIf they are not stingy02:22
xtf(with the net)02:22
CerebralGumpWell it is a rather large download02:22
xtfmy mouse is stuck?02:22
xtfoh sorry i kciked the cabel02:22
CerebralGumpWhat kind of connection do you have right now ?02:22
xtfnow at my das i have a adsl mega 100wr02:23
xtfand i only have like 20 min's left to use before i go to my mom (that sucks)02:23
CerebralGumpAt your dads ?02:24
xtfi like kubuntu alot but its so hard to get software02:24
xtfim poor02:24
CerebralGumpWhy don't you just download the packages you want and get some updates while you can02:24
xtfthats what i just did02:24
xtfwell i got xmms02:24
xtfand ruby02:24
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xtfoh and java jdk 1.602:25
CerebralGumpkubuntu already has amarok02:25
ksivajihttp://pastebin.com/d182ca1cf  apache2 installation error02:25
xtfyea but i heard that xmms comes with drivers02:25
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CerebralGumpyou didn't need xmms02:25
CerebralGumpyou needed multimedia codecs02:26
xtfi know it was a dumb move on my part02:26
xtfwhat to download?02:26
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=== ksivaji please someone help me to install apache2 http://pastebin.com/d182ca1cf
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_ubuntuam useing an old kubuntu live cd what are the new sorces.list entries where can i find them02:27
MartiiniI want to remove dodumentation in other languages /usr/share/man/es , /usr/share/man/fi /usr/share/man/fr02:27
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Martiini_ubuntu type sources.list generator in googe and choose first result02:28
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ksivajiapache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using for ServerName02:28
ksivajino listening sockets available, shutting down02:28
ksivajiUnable to open logs02:28
CerebralGumpxtf: click those links and save the pages so you can read them offline, so next time youre connected you'll know what you need to download02:28
xtfyea i will do that02:29
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CerebralGumpMartiini: use Adept02:29
xtfhey where you live02:29
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ksivajiCerebralGump do you any suggestion for me02:29
xtfwhy u use kubuntu?02:29
_ubuntuMartini; thanks02:29
xtf(ure a guru evry one needs you)02:30
CerebralGumpksivaji: sorry I'm not up to speed on Apache02:30
CerebralGumpxtf: cause I like kubuntu02:30
xtfno not what i mean (there are so many like fedora why did you choose kubuntu?)02:31
CerebralGumpcause I like it02:31
xtfok :-) lol02:31
llutzxtf: how can one like something rpm-based? ;)02:32
CerebralGumpAnd I prefer apt distros02:32
xtfbecuase i can download at the internet shop02:32
xtfa .rpm package02:32
Martiinixtf .. hei! you want to have a discussion about distro preferences02:32
xtfnot much to say about it02:33
xtfbut yes sure02:33
CerebralGumpyou can download packages for kubuntu at the internet cafe also02:33
xtfi wish kubuntu had deb and rpm02:33
CerebralGumpthe internet...02:34
Martiinixtf alien package02:34
xtfdoint i need my pc there?02:34
Martiinifor rpm02:34
xtfi mean om my memory stick02:34
Martiinixtf - Are YOu listening ,,, hey?02:34
llutzusing alien-rpm isn't recommended and in most cases useless02:34
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xtfyea i am02:34
Martiinillutz  "using alien-rpm isn't recommended and in most cases useless" Why ?02:35
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xtfrpm and deb02:35
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MartiiniI thought you need alien to install rpm02:35
xtfi heard that02:35
llutzMartiini: converted rpms can cause severe trouble in you system, the dependencies, pathes etc. may vary02:35
xtfthat sucks02:35
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xtfbut what if i wanted to download vlc02:36
llutzMartiini: its always better to look for 3rd-party deb instead to convert rpms02:36
Martiinik, so If debian is missing a package its best to compile from source ??02:36
yamalxtf: you are located in cape town?02:36
CerebralGumpxtf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/02:36
llutzxtf there are vlc.debs02:36
Martiinik , talk to you laters , thanks for help02:36
xtfi cant find them02:36
xtf<yamal> yea in the strand02:37
xtfthen i am dumb!02:37
xtfsorry i did not know that02:37
yamalxtf: this might be helpful to overcome your problem of limited internet access: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/Freedom_Toaster#UCT_Freedom_Toaster02:37
llutzxtf you haven't searched: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html02:38
CerebralGumpxtf: Search for packages here http://packages.ubuntu.com/ or browse packages http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/02:38
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yamalxtf: it appears to include a full 4 dvd set of ubuntu packages, ready to go/burn02:39
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xtfyamal where you live?02:39
xtfthat sucks02:40
yamalnot really :)02:40
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CerebralGumpyamal: the freedom toaster looks pretty cool02:40
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CerebralGumpxtf: You live in CapeTown ?02:41
yamalCerebralGump: indeed, certainly if xtf's problem with inet access is common in south africa02:41
CerebralGumpxtf: The Freedom Toaster is at UCT02:41
CerebralGumpUniversity of Cape Town02:42
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yamalxtf: read the link I posted a few minutes ago02:42
llutzxtf: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/Freedom_Toaster#Where02:42
xtfoh (sorry for the dumb question)02:42
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xtfyea sorry im a little slow today02:42
yamallooks like it's free if you bring your own writable dvds02:42
xtfso much to get so little time02:42
CerebralGumpGo and hug the freedom toaster02:43
yamalor a laptop02:43
xtfi will when i see if it worx02:44
xtfdamn the updates are taking long02:44
xtfnow at 14%02:45
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xtfhow to save a page on konqueror and read it offline?02:45
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CerebralGumplocation > save as02:46
xtfoh sorry02:46
xtfnever mind what i sead02:47
xtfyippy its saved02:47
xtfCerebralGump whats your email? (when i need help or a frend?)02:48
CerebralGumpuse my msn02:48
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xtfits CerebralGump?02:49
xtfok my one is xtfusion@gmail.com02:50
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xtfhey im not raceist but is it true that there are almost no black peapol in australia?02:51
xtf(sorry my spelling)02:51
xtfoh cool02:51
xtfmy cuz whent there and he says that02:51
xtfnot that im black02:52
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xtfbut just wondaring02:52
xtfim talking crap again...02:52
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xtfhey i gota go chat again one day....... i hope?02:53
CerebralGumpno problem02:53
alunotudo bom ?02:53
xtfthanks for the help chow02:53
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CerebralGumpnp cya02:54
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ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:58
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blithenWhy won't Kubuntu read my reiserfs drive?03:03
llutzblithen: it should, reiser3 exists as a kernel-module03:04
blithenWell. Some programs do. Such as Qtparted and a few others.03:05
blithenBut when I got to /media.03:05
blithenIt's not there03:05
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mick__hi - does anyone know what to do if the auto mount of usb devices stops working?03:07
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mick__...short of a reboot03:07
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mick__syslog reports the usb device appearing - udevmonitor also - no mount occurs03:08
RadiantFire_mick__: try logging out and logging back in03:08
RadiantFire_i know, almost a reboot, but sometimes it works03:08
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mick__I'm trying to avoid logging out too - too much work to get done here!03:10
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mick__hmm, didn't work - can I somehow restart udev or something?03:13
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:14
_bonD_can I use the primary boot partition (the one containing GRUB) as the linux swap partition as well ? If not, what's the minimum size of the partition that would contain grub ?03:14
leushow do i install kde 3.5.7 in my kubuntu 7.04 (feisty)?03:14
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mick__anybody know how the automounting of usb devices is supposed to work?03:17
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_bonD_rightclick your contact and click desktop jussi0103:18
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jussi01_bonD_: no, konversation. when the program starts, I want it to start minimised to tray, not fullscreen window03:19
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llutz_bonD_: activate systray-icon in settings, then it should start minimized03:21
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aguitelanyone know how Beryl is working in kubuntu ?03:22
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mick__aguitel: works fine here on i810 gfx03:23
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aguitelmick_ ,what means i810gfx ?03:24
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aguiteli have Nvidia card Geoforce mx44003:25
mick__aguitel: intel i810 graphics chipset03:25
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mick__beryl works well on nvidia driver too03:25
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aguiteland in my video card?03:26
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mick__aguitel: try it and see!03:27
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aguitelmick_ ,tell me the url to download Beryl?03:27
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mick__aguitel: beryl can be installed with apt-get03:27
nosrednaekimaguitel: thats gonna be very rough running beryl on that card03:27
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects03:27
nosrednaekimyou will have to install xgl, and your performance will be terrible03:27
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nosrednaekimjust wanring you.03:28
aguitelmick_ ,i am new in linux ubuntu03:28
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aguitelwhat is xgl ?03:29
mick__aguitel: you can probably also install it with the "add/remove programs" menu option03:29
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aguitelwhat is xgl ?03:30
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mick__xgl is a compositing x-server -- and the next question is... :)03:31
mick__aguitel: don't worry about it - get help in #ubuntu-effects03:32
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mick__it might work well for you - I ran it on an old geforce 4mx OK03:32
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mick__...not fast but some fun effects03:33
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aguitelok thanks03:33
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:33
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heevenhow can i see my php version, apache and php?03:36
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heeven*mysql sorry03:37
nosrednaekim"mysql --version"03:37
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heevenand apache and php?03:38
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nosrednaekimapache should be the same03:39
heevenok thanks :)03:39
nosrednaekim"apache --version"03:39
nosrednaekimI don't have apache installed so I don't know03:39
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nosrednaekimand what are we looking at ksivaji?03:43
ksivajinosrednaekim i cant start apache2 why ?03:44
nosrednaekimksivaji: GO TO #APACHE03:44
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dromerhow can I see what codec a certian avi is encoded with?03:47
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[GuS] ksivaji: that is not usefull information, you should post your apache error log03:48
[GuS] which is inside /var/log/apache2/03:48
ksivajiok wait03:48
ksivajierror.log is empty03:49
ksivaji[GuS] 03:49
[GuS] mm...03:49
[GuS] thats kind impossible indeed... cause there apache keeps log even when you start the server03:50
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ksivaji[GuS]  i cant start apache03:51
llutzdromer: "file <video.avi>"03:52
[GuS] "Unable to open logs  this is why does not keep logs03:52
[GuS] weird..03:52
[GuS] and without the error on the log is hard to catch what is happening03:53
nosrednaekimcan you start apache as a normal user?03:53
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ksivaji[GuS]  my httpd.conf and apache.conf is empty03:53
[GuS] apache.conf empty?03:53
[GuS] there you have a problem03:53
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dromerllutz: thnx03:53
[GuS] if why apache does not start03:53
[GuS] apache2.conf comes with the installation03:54
ksivaji[GuS]  i installed all the apache plugins03:54
[GuS] with default configuration03:54
[GuS] ksivaji: you dont need that...03:54
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[GuS] you have a installation problem there, is imposible to have apache2.conf empty03:54
dromerllutz: alice_01.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 320 x 240, 23.98 fps, video:  << this doesn't say what codec it is ..03:54
[GuS] you should delete and purge all configuration from apache, and install it again03:54
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ksivaji[GuS]  do you have apache2 can you pastebin your apache2.conf03:54
[GuS] ksivaji: that is not enought indeed03:55
[GuS] cause i have my own configuration there...03:55
llutzdromer: here"alien_vs_predator.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 720 x 576, 25.00 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)"03:55
[GuS] just try what i told you03:55
ksivaji[GuS]  ok03:55
dromerllutz: hmmm03:55
ksivaji[GuS]  you want me to do thsi "sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2"03:56
ksivaji[GuS]  :03:57
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[GuS] the --purge goes at the end03:57
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[GuS] and make sure to delete (if not with purse) the apache2 dir, so when you install it again, it will create the confs.03:58
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e1merhello all, im trying up aquamarine decorator, how to i switch themes?04:14
e1merhello all, im trying up aquamarine decorator, how to i switch themes?04:14
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slougie1mer: if i remember correctly just change the theme in the system settings04:15
nosrednaekimuse the kde window decorations settings04:16
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ksivaji!info apache204:16
ubotuapache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2build1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB04:16
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Ash-FoxWould anyone have any idea how to make a password protected pendrive? In the way that I could just insert my pen drive, and kubuntu would ask me a password to mount it?04:20
e1merslougi: nosrednaekim, thanks04:20
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master_how rotate the cube in beryl?04:29
e1meris there a guide now for upgrading feisty to gutsy04:29
kosch_afkCTRL + Mouse i think04:29
kosch_afkor alt04:29
e1mermaster_: i use ctrl+alt + mouse04:29
nosrednaekimmaster_: ctrl+alt+arrow buttons04:29
kosch_afkor both - yep :D04:30
e1meris there a guide now for upgrading feisty to gutsy04:30
nosrednaekime1mer: yeah, its on kubuntu.org04:30
nosrednaekimunder the latest tribe release notes04:30
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kogo__what's the easiest way of changing the default KDM login theme?04:34
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e1merthanks again nosrednaekim04:35
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someguyhello everyone04:42
someguycan anyone help me find a USB PCI card that will work with Kubuntu?04:42
someguyhey guys04:42
someguyi have run out of usb slots04:42
nosrednaekimuse a hub..04:42
llutzsomeguy: i haven't seen one, not working ;)04:43
someguyi have04:43
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someguyforums seem to show some as problematic04:43
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someguyllutz so should i not go with some random chinese no name brand?04:46
someguythat is what i had and it didn't work04:47
llutzsomeguy: i have used 5-7 of the cheapest pci-cards i could get in .de, never had any problem with them. NEC or TI Chipsets04:47
someguyllutz - thats what I was looking for04:47
someguyllutz - thanks04:47
someguygoing 2 ebay now04:48
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someguyllutz - just got one for <$10. Thanks man! =) have a good one04:57
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MartiiniHei (again)!!  I want to set Konsole/bash  cache/(text scrollback)   to unlimited (infinite) , please05:05
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NickPrestaMartiini, Settings > History > Set Unlimited05:08
NickPrestaThat should do it05:08
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MartiiniNickPresta:  Is that for command history or whole output (scrollback) history?05:11
NickPresta!hi | Aliyns05:11
ubotuAliyns: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:11
MartiiniI thought it just for command history05:12
Martiiniand I need to use "script" to log bash output ??05:12
AliynsI was wondering if someone could help me.. I just installed Kubuntu on my desktop using the Alternate CD, I have a 8800GTS it has finished installing but now all I get is a black screen because I'm assuming theres no video drivers or something for it. I have no other video card and wanted to know if there was any other way I can download and install the nvidia drivers on the computer.05:12
Martiiniok, nevermind05:12
NickPrestaMartiini, I believe it is the numbers of lines in your scrolling history. You can check out ~/.bash_history and ~/.bash_* for more configuration options05:13
MartiiniNickPresta:  Danke Thank you05:13
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MartiiniBTW  KDE has become ONE AWSOME desktop :)05:14
NickPrestaAliyns, you can reconfigure X so you get a GUI, then you can install the appropriate drivers.05:14
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AliynsAny documentation on how to do that?05:14
MartiiniIm well happy with the direction kde is going to :)05:14
runleveltenMartiini: Glad you like it.05:14
Martiini:) Thanks05:14
Dr_willisI wonder if the !nvidia page has info on the 880005:14
Dr_willisThe 8800 i hear requires the newest nvidia drivers, which are not in th repos. yet.05:15
NickPresta!xconfig | Aliyns05:15
ubotuAliyns: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes05:15
AliynsHow do I do this on the computer that has no video output tho?05:15
Martiinion command line?05:16
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AliynsI just get a black screen no flashing cursor no nothing.05:16
Martiiniok, blah ,05:16
NickPrestaAliyns, when you're at the black screen, switch to tty (Press Control+Alt+F1-8) IIRC.05:17
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Dr_willisbooot to single user mode. edit the xorg.conf file to use the 'vesa' driver, then you shoul dbe able to get a default/slow X gui at least.05:17
Dr_willisalt-ctrl-F1 'might' get you to a console.05:17
MartiiniAliyns:  so you get NO output from your video card WHATSOEVER?05:18
Dr_willisdependong on how badly the drivers crashed.05:18
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Dr_willisIf it dosent work , use the rescue/single user mode feature05:18
AliynsI get no output thats right but my screen doesn't go on to standby as if it were getting no signal.05:18
Dr_willisAliyns,  you dont have3 a tv hooked up as well do you?05:19
Martiinibye, seeya :)05:19
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AliynsNope, ctrl-alt-F1-8 got me no where either. :(05:19
Dr_willisyou are using the FUNCTION keys right/ not 1, :) but F105:20
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AliynsYeah I'm definatly sure :P05:20
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NickPrestaAliyns, well, you could always pop in the LiveCD, mount the HDD and then change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use "vesa" drivers as Dr_willis suggested.05:21
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BluesKajHowdy All :)05:21
Dr_willisif he can get to the grub menu,s and boot to single user mode (rescue mode) he wont need to mess weith the live cd.05:21
AliynsYeah, the problem with that is... The live CD doesn't work either I get the same problem hence why I used the Alternate to install.05:21
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AliynsI'll reboot and check if I can get into the grub menu.05:22
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Dr_willissounds tome  like you need to hit the forums to find the proper way to get the nvidia drivers for the 8800 card.05:22
NickPrestaHey BluesKaj05:22
Dr_willisor try that vesa stuff.. but heck that might not even work.05:22
BluesKajhi NickPresta05:22
AliynsRecovery mode looking good I got a command line now :D05:23
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karthikany 1 from India05:23
karthikAny one who want to help me in electronics / C++ ?05:24
NickPrestakarthik, this is a channel for Kubuntu help. Freenode has a C++ channel - I'm sure they would be able to help you better than we would.05:25
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karthikso who has what doubt in Kubuntu?05:26
karthikIm good at it05:26
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karthikLook's like none has any doubut?!05:27
NickPrestakarthik, what are you going on about?05:28
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karthikwell you said this is for Kubuntu help05:28
NickPrestakarthik, yes?05:28
karthikso I am asking people weather they need any help05:29
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NickPrestakarthik, if people need help, they will usually ask :)05:29
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karthikOk I have a doubt?05:30
karthikhow to goto C++ discussion room?05:30
AliynsLive i got myself a gui using vesa.. Any clue on wether Envy will install the right drivers or I have to download some beta drivers for 8800's?05:30
karthikis there any?05:30
NickPrestakarthik, /join ##c++05:31
Dr_willisAliyns,  ive never used envy - but aparantly a lot of people do.05:32
BluesKajAliyns: if you're running Feisty , Envy won't work , it's unsatble or broken depending on your graphics05:32
NickPrestaAliyns, try `nvidia-glx-new` from the repos.05:32
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BluesKajAliyns, I already tried Envy05:32
AliynsDamn, I am using fiesty... whats the command line to use the nvidia-glx-new drivers?05:33
NickPrestaAliyns, or get `restricted-manager` and tick off graphics card.05:33
karthikThanks a lot Nick05:33
BluesKajit's too bad cuz Envy did work quite well in edgy05:34
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karthikanother doubt05:34
karthikhow to find out what channels are available ?05:34
NickPrestakarthik, /list05:34
BluesKajdoubt ? ...look up the meaning, karthik05:34
Aliynsrestricted-manager is available through Adept?05:35
NickPrestaAliyns, `sudo apt-get install restricted-manager`05:35
karthikfine, very well05:36
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karthikthis is the first time I'm using IRC05:36
AliynsThanks NickPresta, I'm currently doing updates now so I have to wait till they finish before I continue but it gives me time to research.05:37
karthikwhat you do nick?05:37
runleveltenkarthik: Good stuff :) There is help functionality available in IRC, incidentally.05:37
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karthikya I am reding help05:38
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runleveltenkarthik: Great.05:39
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AliynsJust a quick stupid question, in regards to video card drivers does it matter wether I am using Kubuntu, Ubuntu or Xubuntu?05:39
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runleveltenWhat cloakable said.05:40
karthikVideo card :no it dosent, just install the video card driver using Automatix05:40
AliynsI am using Kubuntu x64 does this matter?05:40
karthikget automatix at getautomatix.com05:40
runleveltenDo NOT use automatix.05:40
NickPrestaI strongly recommend against automatix. It has broken many systems05:40
moriancumerI agree DO NOT use automatix05:40
karthikif you use it on X64 processor all will be fine05:41
cloakable!automatix | Aliyns05:41
ubotuAliyns: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)05:41
karthikadvanced users must avoid automatix05:41
Tm_Tany user05:41
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Tm_TI repeat, any user05:41
karthikOK I agree any user05:41
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runleveltenThere is an easy-to-use GUI tool called "restricted-manager" you can install and use if you wish for a point and click way of installing proprietary graphics drivers05:41
karthikbut automatix makes things easy05:42
karthikI have never heard of restricted manager05:42
AliynsOkay, so it doesn't matter wether I'm using Ubuntu or Kubuntu or wether I'm using 32bit or 64bit.05:42
Tm_Tkarthik: ina wrong way05:42
Assidtoday isnt a good computer day05:42
karthikhow to open it up?05:42
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karthikits better to stick with 32-bit05:43
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AliynsI have 4GB of Ram I need 64 bit mate ;)05:43
karthikI had problem installling Java on a AMD 64-bit machine running Ubuntu05:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:44
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karthikya ubotu is right05:44
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karthikok people I have got to go05:45
BluesKajubotu is a bot , karthik05:46
karthikthanks for all those who offered me tips today05:46
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Assid4GB should technically work on 32bit05:46
karthikA BOT05:46
Assidabove that would require a 64bit addressing05:46
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Dr_willisAssid,  thats what i was thinking.05:46
karthikwritten under GNU GPL05:46
AliynsAssid, the maximum system memory that the OS refers to includes video card memory and swap/page files.05:47
carrancaHi, im having problems launching an app from my desktop into my notebook using the DISPLAY env. Doing an nmap on localhost the X server isn't opened. any ideas?05:47
Dr_willisYou mean if i use 19gb of swap file.. i got to use 64bit? :)05:47
karthikhello , is ubout written under GPL license05:47
Aliynswell thats the case in Windoze05:47
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AssidAliyns: not possible.. people use 2GB ram .. 2GB swap..  and ofcourse there is the 256mb of video card05:48
Assidso does that mean they need 64bit ?05:48
Assidalthough 19GB of swap is kinda unrealistic05:48
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AssidAliyns: wrong..05:48
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Assidi use 1.5GB of ram.. 3GB of pagefile on winxp pro 3205:49
AliynsYeah, without memory remapping in BIOS 32 bit windows wont read all 3GB of physical memory.05:49
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Assidthats not how its counted05:49
Assidits 4GB per individual type05:49
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Aliynsall 4GB*05:49
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:49
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AliynsThat link should explain it Assid, I went through hell trying to get Windows to read all 4GB of my memory.05:52
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surgywhats a good cpp ide?05:52
AliynsPAE is completely useless, and my motherboard lacks memory remapping so 64bit was the only way.05:52
NickPrestasurgy, kdevelop05:52
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surgynickpresta yeah but the build feature ummm doesnt work for me, ii open the build menu and there is nothing there, even after i save my .cpp file05:53
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TooEarlyjhutchins: ya there05:56
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jhutchinsYeah.  Uncaffeinated so far, but present.05:56
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TooEarlylol alright. i'm using devede which seems to be working for me pretty well05:57
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TooEarlybut when you convert the file to a dvd what bitrate do you usually use?05:57
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jhutchinsTooEarly: Oh, that whole question is pretty involved.  I've pretty much stuck to application defaults, there's a lot of discussion about the trade-offs.06:00
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NickPrestathanks genii!06:00
hans_hey, anyone fairly knowledgable with ubuntu who might be able to explain why audio hangs any aplpication which tries to play sound (ie. firefox/youtube, totem, amarok, gmplayer, etc)06:00
hans_i;ve done an ltrace on gmplayer and it hangs on06:01
TooEarlyoh, alright. well see i used a bitrate of 5000 and it only used 2.9gigs and i want it better quality if it only uses a little06:01
geniiNickPresta: np :)06:01
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hans_totem hangs on xine_open_audio_driver06:01
jhutchinsTooEarly: Yeah, you really just have to experiment, which takes time.06:02
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jhutchinsTooEarly: Seems like there were some good discussion forums, maybe through tovid's site?06:02
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Martiinidoes linux log terminal output and if so .. where can I find Konsole logs ??06:07
Dr_willisyou mean logs of ALL used commands?06:08
jhutchinsMartiini: Depends on what you're doing with the terminal.06:08
Dr_willistheres the 'bash history' that has  a history of them06:08
MartiiniIll check that06:08
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JevonOk, when I try to install new packages using adept, I get this:06:10
JevonThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.06:10
Jevonanyone know whats up06:11
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NickPrestaJevon, run this from a Konsole: sudo apt-get update06:11
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NickPrestaJevon, then try to install a package like this: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE06:12
ksivajiNickPresta still my apache is not working06:12
NickPrestait should reveal more detailed errors06:12
NickPrestaksivaji, I still don't understand what you mean by "not working". You can't start apache2 at all?06:12
ksivajiNickPresta yes i installed apache2 but some of the files are missing06:13
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Jevonthis could take a few minutes...06:13
ksivajiNickPresta i compared it with genii06:13
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kogo__hey guys how do i display the network icon on the task bar?06:14
Jevonand what does the update command do?06:14
Jevonok, got some error messages on the update06:15
NickPrestaJevon, okay. what are they?06:15
JevonFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/so                          urce/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)06:15
JevonE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                          able)06:15
JevonE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                          ess using it?06:15
ksivajiNickPresta do you have any suggestion for me06:15
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:15
NickPrestaJevon, if you have Adept open, you need to close it06:15
jhutchinsmake sure your GUI package aps are closed.06:15
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NickPrestaksivaji, short of telling you to compile apache from source, I don't know how else to help you. I've exhausted all possible solutions that I know of.06:16
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jhutchinsksivaji: What kind of stuff is missing?06:19
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ksivaji jhutchins missing as well as messing06:19
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MartiiniDr_willis:  I ask before about konsole (bash) output logs .. I actually want to log ALL konsole output not just commands06:20
Jevonthe command failed to work06:20
kogo__jevon ckck if apt is running with : pa aux | grep apt06:20
kogo__*ps not pa06:20
kogo__ps aux | grep apt06:20
ksivajijhutchins did you got my pm06:20
MartiiniIve googled myself nuts by now :(06:20
Jevonit did not recognize command ps06:21
Dr_willisMartiini,  there is a command called 'script' that can do it for the current session06:21
Jevonstupid a06:21
Jevonbeth     20387  0.0  0.2   2880   800 pts/1    S+   12:21   0:00 grep apts06:21
Martiiniyaa , I konw that06:21
Dr_willis ifyou want to log EVERYONE's stuff,, and not let them know about it.. theres some ways to do that. Special Login replacements I think06:21
MartiiniDr_willis:  no , thanks , Id like to log only MY konsole output for now06:22
MartiiniI know script06:22
Jevonso, I get a lot of numbers that mean nothing to me06:22
Dr_willisMartiini,  ive used that script command for ages. :) what more do ya need?06:22
Martiinibut how can I make konsole do that by default06:22
Dr_willisput script command in your .bashrc perhaps06:23
ksivajiDr_willis hope you can help me06:23
Jevonput the command in a startup script?06:23
Dr_willisthat can get nasty i bet with lots of logs..06:23
Dr_willisplus what if you have more then 1 shell open06:23
geniiback, eating lunch so sort of AFK06:23
ksivajiDr_willis apache is messed up here06:23
ksivajigenii :06:23
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Dr_willisksivaji,  proberly cant help ya much in tha tarea. I just apt-get install it.. and go...06:23
kogo__:-) is apt the the end of one of them?06:23
MartiiniDr_willis:  k, I'll go with that , Thank You06:24
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kogo__print that line here06:24
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:24
Jevonbeth     20391  0.0  0.2   2880   804 pts/1    S+   12:24   0:00 grep apts06:24
Jevonapt at the very end06:25
geniiksivaji: Unfortunately I think that it is not apache2 that is the problem but that it is some deeper problem since it partially installs things. It may be in the apt-get system or even someplace else entirely. Since it's being extremely problemmatic, I hate to say but recommend a reinstall to server LAMP install, then put a window manager on after that06:25
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kogo__which means aptitude aint running06:25
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kogo__how about : sudo apt-get update06:25
el_tacoin ubuntu I can hit ctrl-alt-<arrow> to change desktops. where can I change that setting in kde?06:26
ksivajigenii where i can get LAMP server06:26
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ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto06:26
JevonErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources06:26
Jevon  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)06:26
JevonFetched 5B in 6s (1B/s)06:26
JevonFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)06:26
JevonReading package lists... Done06:26
JevonE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.06:26
geniiksivaji: I would recommend the Dapper 6.06 server CD...1 moment for the link06:26
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kogo__are you behind a proxy?06:27
Jevonnot that I know of06:27
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yukinoayuda de ubuntu en espaol06:27
NickPrestaJevon, I think if you use a mirror, your problem will go away06:27
el_tacoJevon can you ping the server?06:27
NickPresta!es | yukino06:28
ubotuyukino: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:28
Jevonok, how does one use a mirror,and how much will it slow down the download06:28
JevonI might be able to ping the server06:28
Jevonif i knew the IP06:28
geniiksivaji: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download     choose 6.06 server cd               when installing, choose LAMP setup. After that login to command line then do   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    or if you like kde then   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:28
el_tacoJevon ping the hostname06:29
JevonI do not know the hostname, unless you mean earthlink06:29
_Assid_how do oyu trap the data transfer?06:29
el_tacoif it can't resolv then there's a dns issue.06:29
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_Assid_like what ethereal does.. but from cli06:29
kogo__ok Jevon, lets start here, how are you connected to the internet?06:29
_Assid_any good packet sniffer06:29
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el_tacoin ubuntu I can hit ctrl-alt-<arrow> to change desktops. where can I change that setting in kde?06:30
Jevonthrough an external modem06:30
ksivajigenii  thanks a lot06:31
Jevonwe pretty much run through the old phone lines06:31
pagel_taco, kcontrol -> keyboard shortcuts06:31
kogo__from terminal can you ping ubuntu.com06:31
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Jevondamn. Powers out. Gotta get off06:31
geniiksivaji: Well, i've done what i can to help. Your best bet is the reinstall at this point.06:31
ksivajigenii i think i can have dual boot06:32
_Assid_anyone know a good cli based packert sniffer06:32
el_tacopag thanks06:33
NickPresta_Assid_, try `nast`06:33
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_Assid_NickPresta: can it output to a file that ethereal can open?06:35
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EMoShunzanyone know how to install autopoint?06:36
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sebawhat is that?06:38
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EMoShunzi am trying to install gstreamer, and it is saying i need autopilot to compile it06:38
sebai can not help you with that, sorry06:39
EMoShunzok, thanks anyway06:40
EMoShunzanyone else?06:40
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geniiEMoShunz: So try:   sudo apt-get install autopilot06:41
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EMoShunzcan't find package06:44
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geniiEMoShunz: Interesting, on mine, the command:  apt-cache search autopilot    produces: autopilot - Monitor the DTR line of /dev/palm and run a command to start sync06:45
geniiEMoShunz: I recommend enabling more repositories then in your /etc/apt/sources.list   file,  run then:   sudo apt-get update     then try the install again06:46
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ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:46
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EMoShunzi have all the optional repos installed, is there one for gstreamer specifically?06:48
Kr4t05EMoShunz: Are you trying to get restricted codecs?06:49
geniiEMoShunz: Fast:    kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list              each line starting #deb or #deb-src  remove the # except the one before the line which contains cdrom (near top)06:49
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geniiEMoShunz: If you do that and enable all the repos already existing in your sources.list, it should find the autopilot app. i see it isted and I don't have any weird repos in my list. After you change the file, do the:  sudo apt-get update    then  try to see if the command  apt-cache search autopilot     shows what mine did (pasted here already)06:51
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morph_hello all06:51
morph_anyone using avant window manager?06:52
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EMoShunzgenii:  that seems to have worked, wierd that i had to do that manually06:54
EMoShunzfyi, sudo apt-get install gettext also seems to install autopilot06:54
geniiEMoShunz: The gui package manager isn't always that intuitive :)06:54
EMoShunzit was my backports that weren't enabled06:55
geniiEMoShunz: Good. hopefully gstreamer will progress now06:55
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NickPrestawow. vgacardgames (vga_soliatire) just screwed up my screen resolution07:00
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m477how to mount disks on fiesta ?07:07
g2g591grr, Kwin keeps changing my window manager to itself from beryl, it usually happens when I open adept07:07
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jhutchinsm477: mount command works for me.07:07
pagm477, what's 'fiesta'? another nice nick for Feisty Fawn? :P07:08
m477jhutchins: but i dont see pertisions07:08
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pagm477, and to answer your question; if it's not done automatically (like it usually is) use ' mount '07:09
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter07:09
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m477jhutchins: i dont know name of this partisons07:09
m477pag: where it should be mounted ?07:09
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jhutchinsm477: sudo fdisk -l07:10
pagm477, where ever you want... most user prefer /mount/something07:10
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m477jhutchins: thanks07:10
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mm_202Hey guys, probably a dumb question, but is there a way to delete all .m3u files, with recursion?  Ive tried rm -R *.m3u and it wont go into the subdirectories..07:12
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frojndhello there are thre any instructions how to install divx web player for firefox ?07:13
Theoryfind ./ -name '*.m3u' | xargs rm07:13
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titanix88anyone know a channel for just gossip abt linux/ubuntu with activities(unlike #ubuntu-offtopic)?07:13
titanix88anyone know a channel for just gossip abt linux/ubuntu with activities(unlike #ubuntu-offtopic)?07:13
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m477jhutchins: hey m8 next problem when im trying mount it request root and i log "su" and same trobule07:14
m477jhutchins: or i shuold use "sudo mount " ?07:15
mm_202thank you, Theory.07:16
titanix88m477 mount what?07:16
m477titanix88: disk07:16
m477ok works07:16
frojnddoes anyone know how to install divx web player for firefox. I wanna watch divx videos, like on this site: http://joox.net/cat/23/id/1239523   anyone ??07:16
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:17
pfeinis there any tool to help copy .kde setting from one laptop to another?07:17
jussi01pfein:i dont  know, but why not just copy the .kde over?07:18
pfeinjussi01: the dest. box is old & running xfce, but there are a few kde apps I'm gonna use (incl. konversation)07:19
pfeinjussi01: but probably no konq. :(07:19
pfeineh, I'll just tar it up & stick it on a usbdisk, it's tiny.07:20
titanix88pfein: is it so important to transfer settings:?07:20
geniipfein: If the machine is old and marginal ram etc, remember that any kde app you put onto the xfce system has to load a bunch of libraries from kde to use it (on top of the xfce system), making it terribly worse than just putting full kde on07:20
pfeinit'd be nice07:21
pfeingenii: I realize07:21
geniipfein: Good :)07:21
jhutchinsgenii: That's a bit of a stretch.07:21
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jhutchinsgenii: You're not loading any of the kde desktop features.07:22
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pfeinjhutchins: yeah, and I'm just going to use Konsole w/i konversation as my terminals, so that's one less app too.07:22
geniijhutchins: Well, this is true. but I installed only 2 kde apps on my xubuntu box, and it was costing me about 30% more cpu load and 12Mb ram resources07:23
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NickPrestadepending on what the dependencies are, you might want to use kdelibs instead of full blown KDE07:23
genii(as soon as i loaded one)07:23
BFCHi, I have a wierd problem. My wlan was working fine in kubuntu. But suddenly it doesnt work. the wierd thing is that using wireless assist i can see all the networks in range07:23
BFCI just can't connect to my wlan07:23
titanix88submit it to kde feature reqest & i'm sure they will add it within hours...:)07:24
titanix88submit it to kde feature reqest & i'm sure they will add it within hours...:)07:24
pfeinNickPresta: I just apt-get installed konversation, it pulled the minimal stuff it needed.07:24
mm_202Theory:  not to be a pain, but that didnt quite work,07:24
mm_202rm: cannot remove `Sunday/Louder': No such file or directory07:24
mm_202rm: cannot remove `Now.m3u': No such file or directory07:24
mm_202its passing it to rm, but not with quotes07:25
geniipfein: I exaggerated somewhat when I said it was worse than just putting full kde on. but not much07:25
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pfeinI might need kcontrolcenter though, ugh.07:26
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pfeinsome of the gtk themes are quite nice, I was surprised to find.07:27
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titanix88i miss human gtk theme in kde.07:28
titanix88i miss human gtk theme in kde.07:28
Theorymm_202: find ./ -name '*.m3u' -print0 | xargs -0 rm07:28
Theoryshould do it then07:28
titanix88can 't anyone make it for kde?07:28
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titanix88mm_200 plain rm doesn't work?what was ur command?07:30
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titanix88yrg hi07:31
yrgtitanix88: I thought there were some clones of the "human" theme for kde..?07:31
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yurimxpxmando any of you know of a tool that could automatically forward all of the mail from one e-mail account to another, like a daemon or something?07:32
titanix88yrg where to find?07:32
yrgjust do a search on kde-look.org07:32
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yrgI found a theme manager-theme and some window decorations.07:33
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ksivajigenii can you ssh into my system and fix the problem07:37
arquilinEs verdad que Kword puede abrir  y editar pdf o entendi mal lo que lei?07:37
geniiksivaji:  You are still working on the apache2 problem? Or now some other?07:38
ksivajigenii apache207:38
geniiksivaji:  I'm not sure there is much that can be done anymore, but I could give it a try. Give me the url etc by pm07:38
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sebaanyone knows why kexi do not transform the forms from a mdb file, but do the tables???07:41
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ksivajigenii :07:42
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sebaanyone knows why kexi do not transform the forms from a mdb file, but do the tables???07:44
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sebaanyone knows why kexi do not transform the forms from a mdb file, but do the tables???07:51
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m477can you remember me comend which show me disks ?07:52
m477also can you tell me how to format disk/07:53
geniiBah ksivaji is insane07:53
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yrgm477: You just click the drive in the file manager...?07:54
m477i supoust i dont have it -,-07:55
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m477i need comend in shell07:55
NickPrestam477, `fdisk -l`07:55
NickPrestagenii, oh really?07:56
yrgYou format disks with mkfs...07:56
m477NickPresta: thanks07:56
NickPrestahe would probably have been better off to just compile apache/php/mysql from source. it's fairly painless07:56
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geniiNickPresta: He has some deep-rooted apt or dpkg problems with his box07:57
m477NickPresta: ops donest work fdisk -l07:58
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NickPrestam477, what are you trying to accomplish?07:58
geniiNickPresta: This is day 3 of helping him, now he leaves right after i atrt to get somewhere with it, so tomorrow is likely day 407:58
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m477NickPresta: i wanna see all partisions on disks07:59
m477NickPresta: to mount it07:59
NickPrestagenii, yeah. He pops in from time to time asking for more help.07:59
yrgYou must "sudo" fdisk07:59
yrgotherwise it can't open the device07:59
m477yrg: gr8 m8 thanks08:00
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m477can you tell me how mount ntfs??08:02
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m477or format to fat ?08:02
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:02
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yrgmkfs -t vfat should work... but that's for fat32...08:03
m477yrg: is it to format?08:04
geniiIt may be mkfs.vfat08:04
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m477yrg: i think doestn work or im missing soemthing08:05
yrgwhat does the error message say?08:05
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m477yrg: it isnt error i tihnk Usage: mkfs [-V]  [-t fstype]  [fs-options]  device [size] 08:08
yrgHave you specified the partition you want to format...08:08
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yrglike "mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1" or something08:08
m477thats all08:09
m477sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/hdc108:09
m477mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)08:09
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m477yrg: that show me shall08:11
yrg...i think that's all it does when it's working...08:11
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szachistahow can i install .deb package, but with all dependecies installed automaticly?08:12
szachistadpkg -install doesn't install dependencies08:12
ksivajiszachista dpkg -i ./*.deb08:12
m477yrg: so u sugest that format is done ?08:12
twosouls82szachista: install it and run "sudo apt-get -f install" afterwards, this will take care of the deps in most cases08:13
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yrgwhen command prompt is back and there were no error messages, yes.08:13
szachistatwosouls82: it is not clean way to do things :/08:13
twosouls82it works like a charm08:14
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twosouls82szachista: not using repo debs isn't clean08:14
yrgit only works if all the dependencies are in the repos...08:14
twosouls82yep, true08:14
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g2g591For some reason kwin switches to being the window manager when i run adept. (it switches the window manager from beryl to kwin)08:17
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NickPrestag2g591, then the solution would be not to run adept :-P08:18
NickPrestag2g591, but seriously, can you reproduce that behaviour every time and which versions of adept/beryl/kde?08:19
m477yrg: so what i have to do now ?08:19
nosrednaekimNickPresta: or not run beryl ;)08:20
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yrgwhat do you want to do? mount your newly formatted partition?08:20
NickPrestathat too :P08:20
m477yrg: maybe it doenst work becouse i dont have mount this aprtition ? ;p08:20
m477yrg: no i want to format ntfs partiton which isnt mount08:20
yrgi think it did work.08:20
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m477yrg: so now doesnt08:21
m477yrg: so how i have to format it?08:21
yrgso what happened when you did sudo mkfs -t vfat /whatever ?08:21
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m477sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/hdc108:21
m477mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)08:21
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yrghmm... to me, this looks like it did format the disk...08:22
g2g591it doesn't do it every time08:22
g2g591about once every 3 times or so08:22
yrgBut i'm not 100% sure... and i have no spare disk to try it...08:22
m477when i write only mfks08:22
m477bash: mfks: command not found08:22
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nosrednaekimg2g591: hmmm, run beryl from the CMDline, and see if it spitts out an error08:23
g2g591adept 2.1 on kde 3.5.708:23
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m477yrg i doesnt format cuz08:23
m477yrg: /dev/hdc1   *           1         522     4192933+   7  HPFS/NTFS08:23
yrgargh... maybe you have to change the partition type first...08:24
g2g591no errors, but one warning : [Warning ] : Relaunching beryl with __GL_YIELD="NOTHING"08:24
m477yrg: so what you recomend?08:24
nosrednaekimhmmm, and then kwin replaces it?08:24
szachistai was told that if i open deb package in mc and run from it INSTALL file, it will find dependencies automaticly. But is this safe way to do things?08:24
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NickPrestag2g591, the only thing I can think to try is to disable the GL Yield setting08:25
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yrgsudo fdisk /dev/hdc, then type m to find out what the command for changing the system id is...08:25
g2g591only after about 3 times of opening adept, or another kde specific app08:25
g2g591any idea how?08:25
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nosrednaekimg2g591: it happens with other apps?08:25
yrgand then change the system id to fat32. Then mkfs should format it08:25
NickPrestag2g591, right click on the Beryl icon > Advanced Beryl Options > Disable GL Yield08:26
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g2g591it is already marked08:26
m477yrg: so i must delate and make new partiton ?08:26
ksivaji installed apache but i can process php script08:26
ksivajiNickPresta :08:26
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)08:27
NickPrestaksivaji, you can't run PHP scripts via apache?08:27
m477yrg: i really dont know which option choose08:27
ksivajitwosouls82 yes08:27
yrgthat'd work to, but it should be enough to change the system ID, so the partition is marked as fat32.08:27
NickPrestaksivaji, did you add the LoadModule line for mod_php?08:27
m477yrg: k i got08:27
yrgType t for changing the system ID. Then select the partition and b for Fat3208:27
ksivajino how to do that08:28
yrgAnd then mkfs should work for that partition08:28
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nosrednaekimg2g591: try unmarking it then ;)08:28
ksivajiNickPresta hope you can solve my problem08:28
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NickPrestaksivaji, did you compile apache from source?08:29
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m477yrg: but still when i write "sudo fdisk -l08:29
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ksivajiNickPresta no i installed using adept08:29
m477yrg: i got /dev/hdc1   *           1         522     4192933+   7  HPFS/NTFS08:29
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NickPrestaksivaji, did you install php5 via adept?08:29
ksivajiNickPresta i can installl apache 1.3 only08:29
yrghmm... i think you gotta reboot so that the system knows the partition type...08:30
NickPrestaksivaji, If you installed apache1.3, I think you're supposed to use PHP4.08:30
yrgI think there's a message saying so when you exit fdisk with w08:30
yrgbut i'm not 100% sure...08:30
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ksivajiNickPresta but adept  say php is not valid package name08:31
m477how to exit it08:31
m477yrg: all tim08:31
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yrgw if you want to save the changes, q if you don't08:31
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NickPrestaksivaji, oh. it appears feisty only has php5. that's fine08:32
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ksivaji NickPresta ok tell me how to add module and load08:32
m477yrg heh now works08:33
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makuseruwhat are the most common Vector Image file types?08:33
NickPrestaksivaji, well, you have to install php first. then you need to check your apache config file for the line that looks like "LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so"08:33
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NickPrestamakuseru, svg, svgz?08:34
gandhiimaku:  svg, ps, eps, dxf, ai,08:34
makuseruthank you08:34
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m477yrg: one more thing can you tell me why linux regognize my disk as 4 gb if it is 8 ? o.O08:35
arunhey kids08:35
sauvinThere's a 'dia' program that works with vector formats; what format is it?08:35
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yrgm477: I don't know... Is it really partitioned to 8 gb?08:36
g2g591ow that made it freeze08:36
m477yrg: dunno but there is 1 partiton 4 gb08:36
m477yrg: maybe i back to fdisk and delate and make new one partition ?08:36
arunsauvin: SVG?08:36
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nosrednaekimg2g591: sorry...08:37
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yrghmm... maybe you are mixing up blocks and bytes... try "df -h" to view the partition sizes...08:37
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xbesnardHello, I face some difficulties to be connected under Kubuntu Feisty with an external dial up modem (BEWAN V92). The connexion starts and after a few minutes, I got a message that the modem hangup with a code 16. I checked the different parametes, options, AT commands, pap/chap. But, I found nothing obvious. Could someone get me information on the error code 16? I put my syslog at this adress: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33178/ . Thank you for your help. Xav10:39
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yeniklasorHow can I scrool down when I launch "top" on terminal ?10:48
jhutchinsyeniklasor: can't.10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about htop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
jhutchinsyeniklasor: All you can do is reconfigure a console so that you have more lines.10:49
yeniklasoroh ok :(10:49
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yrgor use ps aux and scroll up ;)10:50
underdog5004or ps aux | less10:50
underdog5004or ps aug | grep processname10:50
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yeniklasorThanks worked10:51
yeniklasorNow how can I install JDK ? On repo isn't working :( Do you know any totorial10:52
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Angelushow can i install a theme on kubuntu?10:55
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vzduch!themes | Angelus10:56
ubotuAngelus: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy10:56
Assiderr how do i get apt to have multiple connections while downloading?10:57
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Assidi want to increase the simultanous threads10:57
vzduchcan apt do that?  I know that smart can, but for apt I don't know10:57
Angelusvzduch: i downloaded the theme, but i dont know how to install since kubuntu doesnt have a theme installer or i dont know where it is10:57
Assidvzduch: yes it can10:58
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SeberusOk, Can somebody help me? I11:00
SeberusI'm completly new to Kubuntu and I just installed it.11:00
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:06
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SeberusI'm completly new to Kubuntu and I just installed it :3 Can someone help me?11:07
SeberusIt seems I cant download any .exe files >_>11:07
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LeeJunFanSeberus: linux doesn't use .exe files.11:07
yrgSeberus: You can't run exe Files on linux11:07
LeeJunFanSeberus: those are for windows.11:07
yrgIf you want to install a program, you can use Adept.11:07
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LeeJunFan!adept | Seberus11:07
ubotuSeberus: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto11:07
SeberusThank you11:08
yrgThere's a big library of programs you may want or need, and they will be automatically installed11:08
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yrgand the bot know everything better than i do ;)11:08
vzduchSeberus: what do you want w/ .exe files?11:08
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Seberusand games11:08
Seberusand such11:08
yrgthere's a program called Kopete in Kubuntu11:09
LeeJunFanSeberus: you'll find games there, for MSN look at kopete.11:09
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LeeJunFan!info kopete11:09
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB11:09
yrgthat can connect to MSN and AIM and ICQ and Jabber and...11:09
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SeberusYeah I ran kopete, then accidently closed it although I saw something to do with MSN, Cant seem to find it again11:09
yrgYeeah my download's finished..11:09
yrgGotta go play ;)11:10
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Seberus-sighs- How can I connect to MSN through kopete?11:11
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LeeJunFanSeberus: go into settings menu, configure, accounts.11:13
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Angelushmm somebody knows how colours of windows tabs can be changed?11:13
vzduchwindows tabs?11:14
Angelus*windows tabs11:14
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vzduchstill not clear what you mean (at least not to me)11:15
SeberusAllright, so games, How in the world can I get some? I know where to get the .exe >_> how do I transfer .exe onto Linux?11:15
Angelusyou dont know what a tab in a window is ?11:16
vzduchSeberus: as a rule, you _don't_ run .exe files in Linux unless there's no other option11:16
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org11:16
AngelusSeberus: go to Adept and Install wine, then with wine you can install .exe files :D11:17
SeberusREALLY!?!?! :3 Thank you.11:17
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Angelusno proble11:17
Seberuscause I'm like... Adept... -types in a games name- eerrm... did it work? :O11:17
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Angelusbut Seberus WARNING: to play windows games on linux you must have at least an Nvidia Graphic ccard11:17
AngelusSeberus: K menu , System, Adept11:18
Angelussearch for wine11:18
AngelusRequest Install11:18
AngelusApply Changes11:18
runleveltenSeberus: You should be aware that wine provides a tool you _may_ be able to run some windows applications on. It's not a sure thing.11:18
runleveltenI do play HL2 on it though :)11:18
SeberusWell I was playing games on a game on windows before linux11:18
SeberusI understand the whole wine thing thank you ><11:18
Angelusthen you go to console, wine your.exe11:19
Angelusand should work11:19
Angelusfor nothing11:19
Angelusrunlevelten: do you know how to change colour of Tabs ?11:19
Angelusin kde?11:19
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runleveltenAngelus: as far as I'm aware, you'll need to run a style that supports it.11:20
SeberusOk so this is a gameing computer :x, Not all games run on it, but most probably do? Dose World of Warcraft run on it?11:20
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SeberusOk, So I typed in Wine, nothing happened >_>11:21
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SeberusAnd I hit enter too11:21
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runleveltenlower case, I assume?11:21
runleveltenWine is not wine11:21
pantshello im having trouble resising my linux partition11:21
runleveltenwine itself also won't do anything, you do wine <yourapp>11:22
SeberusAh x.x11:22
Angelusalready told you dude11:22
Angeluswine yourfilename.exe11:22
Angelusthats the command11:22
Angelusreplace yourfilename.exe with your real filename11:22
pantsis it not possible to resise a linux partition?11:23
runleveltenAlso, once you've got the app running, you do little tweaks to make it run faster - eg: WINEDEBUG=-all; nice -n 20 wine <yourapp>11:23
runleveltenand so on.11:23
Dragnslcrpants- I've done it before11:23
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SeberusAllright... so for example... I would type into adept manager "wine gunz.exe" ?11:23
runleveltenYou should look on appdb.winehq.org for apps, compatibility listing, tests by other users, and tips on how to get the best performance11:23
Dragnslcrpants- GParted/QtParted can do it11:24
Angelusforget it Seberus11:24
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runleveltenSeberus: yeah, but check the app on appdb.winehq.org11:24
Angelusyou wont play gunz on linux11:24
Angelusgunz needs internet explorer11:24
runleveltennot into adept manager11:24
Angelusoh wait11:24
pantsdragnslcr it's saying it's mountes11:24
runlevelteninto a shell11:24
SeberusI dont wanna use ijji11:24
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Angelusdepends on which edition you have11:24
killown|awaywhere I found xorg 7.2 source?11:24
Angelusahh so its not ijji11:24
SeberusI allready know.11:24
Angelusso then it should play11:24
Dragnslcrpants- you can't resize a mounted partition11:24
SeberusI'm not THAT far behind.11:24
Angelusmy bad11:24
vzduchkillown|away: don't know where you found it :D11:25
SeberusSo how do I get teh wine11:25
Angelusforgive meh11:25
Seberusif nothing happens when I type in wine11:25
Angelusi already told you11:25
Seberusor Wine11:25
Angeluslets repeat then11:25
SeberusWell I missed it >_>11:25
runleveltenSeberus: for an up-to-date wine build, go to winehq.org11:25
SeberusFrom the top please :X11:25
AngelusK menu > System, Adept11:25
pantsdragnslcr so i would have to resize it with fdisk?11:25
runleveltento install the stock wine, you can use adept.11:25
AngelusSearch for Wine11:25
SeberusI'm there11:25
Angelusrequest install11:25
Angelusapply changes11:25
Angelusthat should install wine on your system11:25
Dragnslcrpants- or resize it when it isn't mounted, which is what I would suggest11:26
SeberusNothing happened11:26
SeberusTheres no search results.11:26
runleveltenyou probably didn't check it then.11:26
pantsdragnslcr im new at linux, how can i unmount the hard disk11:26
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.11:26
Dragnslcrpants- is it the one that you're running your system on right now?11:26
pantsdragnslcr yes but i popped in the live CD11:27
Dragnslcrpants- are you actually running off of the CD?11:27
Dragnslcrpants- you have to boot from the Live CD to resize the partition that your system is on11:27
pantsdragnslcr yes, there is a install file on the desktop11:27
Dragnslcrpants- System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks11:28
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Dragnslcrpants- should be able to unmount any mounted disks from there11:29
SeberusUgh this is hurting mah brain ;D11:29
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pantsdragnslcr ok i see my partitions11:29
runleveltenheh ;)11:29
parsniphi all11:29
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parsnipive messed up bigtime can anyone help11:29
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pantsdragnslcr disable them?11:29
Angelusthe bot needs a technishion11:30
parsnipi thought i set my audio cds to autorun with kscd but now when i try and open folders, kscd opens11:30
parsnipcan anoyone advise?11:30
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Dragnslcrpants- I believe that should unmount them, yeah11:30
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pantsdragnslcr :/ wont let me even in admin mode11:30
runleveltenWas it because I said I was installing etch? Did I hurt ubotu's feelings?11:31
Angeluscan anyone tell me how to set the identd on linux11:31
Angelussince i heard its complicated not like windows buollt in mIRC11:31
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SeberusLol xD I hit enter ALOT on the adept thing searching for "wine" ... it closed x.x11:31
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Seberusif I hit enter alot dose it close a window? lol11:31
pantsdragnslcr i can resize the swap i think but not the ext311:32
vzduch"windows built-in mIRC"?11:32
runleveltenwhat built-in mirc?11:32
Angelusthe identd11:32
Angelusfor IRC11:32
Angelusits built in on mIRC11:33
parsnipinstead of mIRC, why not use XChat? theres a win32 port and its free11:33
Angeluson linux you must install something for identd11:33
Angelusi dont use mIRC11:33
runleveltenew @ identd.11:33
Angelusim talking about identd dude11:33
Angelushow can it be enabled on linux?11:33
vzduchsudo apt-get install identd11:33
Angelusthat will enable identd server ?11:34
Angelusfor irc?11:34
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eleckttrusssomebody know about X software to send post to my blog?11:34
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jhutchinseleckttruss: Kinda depends on what blog.11:36
SeberusAllright... Can anybody explain it to me really slowly step by step in slow motion with little tips along the way, how to get this "wine" ?11:36
parsnipsudo apt-get install wine11:37
SeberusI'm useing Kubuntu11:37
Tm_Tthat's step one11:37
SeberusAnd KDE11:37
Tm_TSeberus: yes11:37
Tm_Tdoesn't matter11:37
Tm_Tsee what parsnip said11:37
SeberusOk so... sudo apt- get install wine? I dont understand a word of that >_>11:37
SeberusWell actually I understand the last 3 >_>11:38
Tm_Topen Konsole11:38
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SeberusOk got it up11:38
Tm_Tyou'll love that black box11:38
tobias_then type that11:38
tobias_enter your password, confirm with enter again11:38
eleckttrussjhutchins: my blog is in blogger11:38
draftwho know turkish  lanunge  :)11:39
tobias_I definitly dont :)11:39
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Seberusbash: Sudo: command not found11:39
Tm_TSeberus: small s11:39
eleckttrussjhutchins: so u know any software for that?11:39
tobias_what he said11:39
draftmy english bad :(11:40
killown|awayhow do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?11:40
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killown|awaydpkg-buildpackage define for i38611:40
jhutchinseleckttruss: Dunno if they have linux tools yet.11:40
SeberusE: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 resource temporarily unavilable)11:40
Tm_Tkillown|away: you might like to try #ubuntu-motu11:40
Seberusthen something under it and blah11:40
Tm_TSeberus: Adept open?11:40
eleckttrussjhutchins:  thanks11:40
tobias_adept installer or adept updater ?11:40
tobias_close it11:41
Tm_TSeberus: close it11:41
vzduch!tr | draft11:41
tobias_then do it again11:41
Tm_Ttobias_: ok, you go on (:11:41
vzduchdamn, no bot :(11:41
tobias_nono sorry11:41
tobias_didnt want to disturb you11:41
Tm_Ttobias_: please do11:41
eleckttrussjhutchins:  do you hace the link of this software?11:41
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SeberusThis is confuzzling me, haha, wonder if I'll learn what all this is in time? <_<11:41
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drafti want install kubuntu but dont know edit partion11:41
tobias_he, okay, sorry =)11:41
draftvzduch not understand you what you mean?11:41
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vzduchdraft: the bot is offline, so this didn't work as expected11:42
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tobias_Seberus: you will, no fear11:42
SeberusOk, blah blah blah... reading package lists building dependency tree reading state information...done Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package11:42
Seberusthis may mean the package is missing blah blah blah11:42
Tm_TSeberus: what?!11:42
SeberusE: Package wine has no installation candidate11:43
tobias_1 sec11:43
leushow can i upgrade my kde 3.5.6 to 3.5.7 on kubuntu11:44
Tm_Tleus: kubuntu.org has instructions, check announcements11:44
tobias_hmm I dont know why it wont work with Seberus11:44
tobias_any idea Tm_T11:44
Tm_TI have plenty11:44
SeberusCause I never downloaded the... resource? or something?11:45
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Tm_TSeberus: do "sudo apt-get update"11:45
tobias_actually it works fine with me11:45
vbgunzI read up on "Signal 15". I do not have a laptop and my PC temperture is "40 C". I never get "Signal 15" when I am using the computer. Only when I am away and it is very frustrating as it logs me out and it's almost to the point of unbearable :( anyone have any ideas?11:45
draftvzduch ok  i  am wait a person  for know my lanunge  and sorry  for my bad english11:45
Tm_Tjhutchins: no bot11:45
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Tm_Tdraft: turkish?11:45
killown|awayhow do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?11:46
draftyes :)11:46
Seberusblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah... Done11:46
draftTm_T you?11:46
Tm_TSeberus: and try again install part11:46
tobias_sudo apt-get install wine11:46
Tm_Tdraft: no, but try #ubuntu-tk or whatever is your country code11:46
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Tm_Tkillown|away: tried #ubuntu-motu already?11:46
killown|awayTm_T, nobody asnwer11:47
Tm_Tkillown|away: wait11:47
tobias_Seberus: worked ?11:47
Tm_Tkillown|away: patience is your ally11:47
SeberusPackage wine is not available but is refered to by another package, this may mean that the package is missing blah blah blah11:47
SeberusPackage wine has no installation canidate11:47
Tm_Tkillown|away: and strong ally it is </yoda>11:47
Tm_TSeberus: ok, hold your seat11:47
SeberusWill do11:48
draftTm_T dont know contry code11:48
SeberusIts your country man! Figure it out! :O11:48
Tm_TSeberus: hrr, no11:48
SeberusGo to teh google and type in the denmark country code or something11:48
Tm_Tdraft: tk might be it (:11:48
Tm_TSeberus: hey, that's not very helpful my friend11:48
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Tm_Tyou wan't my help?11:49
tobias_it is tr officially11:49
draftTm_T but dont have persons11:49
SeberusI was jokeing around... Meh, I'm seriously sorry for that x.x11:49
Tm_Tdraft: then try tr (:11:49
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tobias_Internet TLD11:49
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vbgunzanyone know what "signal 15" is and how to avoid it?11:50
tobias_sorry, no tme11:50
SeberusYes I badly NEED and want your help Tm_T11:50
draftTm_T ok  try again thenk you :)11:50
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jhutchinsvbgunz: Signal 15 is SIGTERM11:51
Tm_TSeberus: coming on your way then (:11:51
jhutchinsvbgunz: Which basically means you need to know more than you've told us so far.11:51
SeberusWhewt :D11:51
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vbgunzjhutchins: I did, I write again what I said11:52
vbgunzI read up on "Signal 15". I do not have a laptop and my PC temperture is "40 C". I never get "Signal 15" when I am using the computer. Only when I am away and it is very frustrating as it logs me out and it's almost to the point of unbearable :( anyone have any ideas?11:52
Tm_T!universe | Seberus11:52
SeberusYou have expanded me into the universe :D11:52
SeberusI think?11:52
tobias_!tell Seberus universe11:52
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Tm_Tubot3: ping11:52
Tm_Tok he's deaf11:53
tobias_poor one11:53
SeberusHey I'm curious, Whats with the whole, red typeing thing?11:53
SeberusI'm deaf?11:53
Tm_TSeberus: no, ubot311:53
tobias_no, ubot3 is deaf11:53
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tobias_eumm I am always too late11:53
SeberusAnd this ubot3 ish?11:53
vbgunzjhutchins: I mysteriously log out, I don't know why. I checked my messages log and thats the last line I see at the time of logout: "Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly"11:53
Tm_TSeberus: infobot11:53
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vbgunzjhutchins: right before that line, I see this line: GConf server is not in use, shutting down.11:53
SeberusThat sounds extremly weird VB GunZ o.O11:54
tobias_http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Paketquellen_freischalten <- thats the universe thing in german ._.11:54
SeberusLike seriously...11:54
Tm_Ttobias_: thanks11:54
vbgunzSeberus: why, whats up? is it the gconf line or the signal 15 line?11:54
tobias_but I dont have any idea if Seberus understands it ;)11:54
SeberusWait I'm not pro11:55
Tm_Ttobias_: he needs universe and then he's good to go, you know how to help him, so I'm off for a moment ;)11:55
SeberusDont red talk me VB I'm just saying if your comps not over heating11:55
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vbgunzred talk?11:55
SeberusI dont even know if thats a over heating message x.x11:55
Seberusthat talk is comeing in red to me11:55
vbgunzwhat is that?11:55
Seberusis it a whisper?11:55
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tobias_no its a highlight11:56
killown|awayhow do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?11:56
tobias_it is whenever your name is in it11:56
vbgunzit's your client coloring it, not me, probably cause I mentioned your name?11:56
SeberusAllright then11:56
eugman|OW_omfgHey can you resize panels like in windows with kubuntu?11:56
SeberusA Universe is?11:56
vbgunzyeah but my comp is at 40C and I am in another account (my sons) and he doesn't log out? only my main account logs out and it is very frustrating :(11:57
vzduchresize panels?11:57
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tobias_a thing to make packetsources available11:57
vbgunzeugman|OW_omfg: yes11:57
vbgunzright click your panel unlock | configure panel11:57
SeberusYa see, I'm saying that sounds really weird, I don't understand whats going on though... isent 40C high? like 80 degrees F?11:57
vzduchvbgunz: how about just sitting in front of your account doing nothing.. gotta be a reason for such behaviour11:57
vzduch40C == 104F11:58
vbgunzvzduch: it is unpredictable. it will log out in 10 minutes, 10 hours or 10 days. I have no idea why it happens. I checked my xorg.log and found no errors.11:58
jhutchinsvbgunz: Basically what we know is that something is causing the system to shut down part way.11:58
vzduchSeberus: not much for CPU temperature11:58
SeberusStill e__e11:58
eugman|OW_omfgvbgunz, no I run ubuntu, I justed wanted to know if it might work in KDE.11:59
vzduchI remember my Athlon XP2000+ running at 56C (~135F)11:59
vzduchbut that was a hot summer ;)11:59
vbgunzjhutchins: I wish I knew what else to do to figure it out. going through my logs, I spot something suspicious is messages only. the gconf line and the signal 15 line. other than that, while I am in my sons account playing a game with him, I am taken to my login screen... I just log out for some reason :(11:59
eugman|OW_omfgAny information on KDE vs. Gnome? I've only been using linux for about a year now and up to this point gnome has been sufficient.12:00
SeberusCan anybody help me get "Universe"? I am deaf.12:00
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jhutchinsvbgunz: Do you have a screensaver set up?12:00
tobias_Seberus: its not that easy12:00
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tobias_Seberus: normally, universe is activated automatically12:00
Seberustobias: Darn12:00
tobias_Seberus: so i dont know what could be your problem12:00
tobias_Seberus: it works all fine with me12:00
SeberusOh wait12:00
SeberusIs it cause12:00
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SeberusI havent installed Kubuntu yet?12:00
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SeberusIm running off the disk12:01
vbgunzjhutchins: yes, I had an OpenGL screensaver but I never see when quickly switching between accounts. I did change the screensaver to blank as I read somewhere that could cause it. thats a bit upsetting as I liked the other one :/12:01
SeberusCause I was afraid of loseing windows e__e12:01
tobias_Seberus: that could be a reason ._.12:01
Tm_TSeberus: good call, that's it prolly :p12:01
tobias_Seberus: by the way12:01
SeberusSEE? I can be pro e_e12:01
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tobias_Seberus: google for "wubi"12:01
nosrednaekimeugman|OW_omfg: basically, anything you would EVER want to configure, you can configure in KDE12:01
SeberusRight away :X12:01
tobias_it is going to install kubuntu for you without losing windows12:01
tobias_thats what I did12:02
tobias_you dont need an extra partition or whatever12:02
SeberusOh mah gawd :X12:02
tobias_its great12:02
SeberusThat is like12:02
Seberusso wonderfull12:02
jhutchinsNo, you don't need anything special to do that.12:02
vbgunzjhutchins: if it was the screensaver, it really is random, as when I would leave for any amount of time, I would lock the pc. I would come back and find my account either logged or logged out. very wierd as it doesn't happen at any exact time. :(12:02
Phil^I do so tobias.12:02
Seberusmah games ><12:02
Phil^At the moment!12:02
eugman|OW_omfgHey what downsides are there to KDE. nosrednaekim, any downsides to KDE?12:02
tobias_I think its a great tool, really12:02
jhutchinseugman|OW_omfg: COmpared to what?12:02
SeberusOk so hey, I'mma take out the CD  and reset my comp and get Wubi allright?12:03
Phil^Great Idea to build the IRC-Client on the live cd, so you can chat while installation running ;)12:03
vbgunzjhutchins: any other log I could possibly be looking into? I've ordered my logs by modified time. any idea?12:03
eugman|OW_omfgCompared to Gnome? Does evolution work with KDE?12:03
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jhutchinsSeberus: Better to just install from the CD.12:03
tobias_xD haha Phil^ :)12:03
SeberusWhat if I wanna keep Windows though? :X12:03
nosrednaekimeugman|OW_omfg: not really.... maybe a little more advanced to use... POSSIBLY a small performance hit. but if you have semi decent HW, you won't notice it12:03
tobias_Seberus: read my lines above...12:03
eugman|OW_omfgI think I might switch to kubuntu but I want to know if there are any cons to consider12:03
jhutchinseugman|OW_omfg: Well, it can, but there is kde stuff: kdepim, kmail, korganizer12:03
tobias_Seberus: it wont affect windows in any way12:03
SeberusI know12:04
SeberusI was talking to12:04
Phil^But at the moment i think the partition-tool did a hangup12:04
Phil^I dont response since 6 minutes12:04
tobias_I see12:04
vbgunzeugman|OW_omfg: I used Ubuntu for over a year. I completely agree with Linus Torvalds. there is a huge difference in being easy to use and *only* easy to use. KDE is easy to use but very chock filled with options when you need em12:04
jhutchinseugman|OW_omfg: Actually, kde uses about 30% less RAM/CPU than gnome (running native apps).12:04
tobias_if you wanna install from the CD, you need a new partition12:04
SeberusAllright well12:04
SeberusBe are be12:04
SeberusThat would be?12:04
eleckttrussalgo como gnome-blog pero para kde?12:04
tobias_partition magic is a program to do so e.g.12:04
vbgunzeugman|OW_omfg: I find Gnome apps look far superiour on KDE than Vice Versa...12:04
tobias_you do have c: and d: and those are partitions12:05
eugman|OW_omfgWell, is there a tool for mocing from evolution to another email app? I've got a lot of email sorted already.12:05
SeberusDo I need an extra partition for wubi?12:05
killown|awayhow do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?12:05
tobias_but if you want to install it from the CD12:05
SeberusFor the CD?12:05
SeberusAh ok12:05
jhutchinsSeberus: Which is a good reason NOT to use wubi.12:05
tobias_that's weird Phil^12:05
nosrednaekimeugman|OW_omfg: you can still use evolution12:05
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SeberusJhutchins: What is a good reason NOT to use Wubi?12:05
tobias_Phil^: Im glad it worked for me ;)12:05
jhutchinsSeberus: Ususally you shrink your windows partition and create a new partition for linux, and a small one for swap.12:06
tobias_Seberus: that you isntall it on a new partition12:06
eugman|OW_omfgWhat do I do to switch? uninstall ubuntu desktop meta package and install kubuntu desktop package?12:06
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jhutchinsSeberus: The installer should do that for you.12:06
SeberusAhhhhhh x.x12:06
jhutchinsSeberus: You should have a backup of your windows system, but you shouldn't run wubi without a backup either.12:06
Phil^Hm, I killed the process and prepare my disk manually....good old fdisk :D12:06
jhutchinsSeberus: For most people there's no problem, and if you do a "real" install it will work better in the long run.12:06
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nosrednaekimno need to uninstall the ubuntu mta package, just install the kubuntu one12:07
tobias_the way is the aim12:07
tobias_or something like that ^^12:07
grendal_primeok how do i upgrade from dapper to fiesty?12:07
Seberusjhutchins: Woot, I'm such a noob, I understand back ups and stuff ;O but don't  I need like a CD to hold the back up for a  back up?12:07
Seberusjhutchins: Like... a CD to hold blank stuff or w/e...12:07
jhutchinsSeberus: Yeah, possibly more than one.12:07
jhutchinsSeberus: You really only need stuff you created.12:07
ubotwohost not found12:07
eugman|OW_omfgnosrednaekim, that won't cause any conflict?12:08
Tm_T!universe | Seberus12:08
ubotwoSeberus: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:08
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jhutchinsSeberus: Software you can just reinstall.12:08
Tm_TSeberus: there you go12:08
tobias_but universe is not the problem anymore Tm_T12:08
jhutchinsTm_T: thanks!12:08
Tm_Ttobias_: I know!12:08
Tm_Tbut we got it!12:08
tobias_you're great :D12:08
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jhutchinsTm_T: Need to get more ops bot priviliges.12:08
Tm_Tjhutchins: ?12:08
grendal_primecan i do a direct dist upgrade or do i need to go through the edg upgrade first12:08
Phil^I am the only guy chatting while installation with the Feisty Live-CD?12:08
Seberusjhutchins: The only problem is I want games, If I didn't play games >_> Then I would be happy with it, so I need my windows too12:09
nosrednaekimeugman|OW_omfg: no, not at all... you can choose between KDE and Gnome at each login12:09
SeberusWhatd we get? :O12:09
SeberusAm I in universe?12:09
Tm_TSeberus: you can have both, really?12:09
jhutchinsSeberus: Yeah, it's good to have both when you first start out.12:09
SeberusTm_T: Supposedly... e__e with Wubi12:09
eugman|OW_omfgWell I will give it a try12:09
jhutchinsSeberus: I still have my windows partition on this box, even though it won't boot any more with my newer hardware.12:09
nosrednaekim!upgrade | grendal_prime12:09
ubotwogrendal_prime: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)12:09
jhutchinsSeberus: I have a couple of apps that I run from that install still in Linux.12:10
SeberusWell, I'mma give it a try... e__e12:10
tobias_I hope you wont regret it12:10
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jhutchinsSeberus: Experience is proportional to data destroyed!12:10
SeberusOk well I'm off, before I get confused... Install wubi, and that should.... have linux in it?12:10
tobias_jhutchins: dam I must be fu**ing experienced ;D12:10
Seberusin a ubuntu form?12:11
jhutchinstobias_: I know i am.12:11
tobias_Seberus: its just a little tool12:11
Tm_Tweird, I never had losed data12:11
tobias_Seberus: but it will download the kubuntu for you12:11
Tm_TI'm not experienced then?12:11
tobias_Seberus: or ubuntu or whatever you want12:11
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tobias_Tm_T: you are off the hook already, thats why ... :s12:11
tobias_off the scale should match it better though12:11
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Tm_Ttobias_: yeah, comes with my age I guess, 100+12:12
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tobias_alright then - good night everyone, see you sooner or later12:12
nosrednaekimeugman|OW_omfg: alrighty!12:12
MaximLevitskyIs there at least a workaround for kubuntu sudo problems?12:13
Tm_TMaximLevitsky: what sudo problems?12:13
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MaximLevitskyI mean kdesu that hangs12:14
Tm_Tnever seen that12:14
Tm_Twhat about kdesudo?12:14
aguitelhow i know my video driver card ?12:14
MaximLevitskyand annying "kdeinit: can't start blabla"12:14
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Phil^Someone told me, the a Problem is sitting always 1-2 Meters in in front of the PC12:14
MaximLevitskyTm_T  , I don't have kdesudo12:15
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jenny_Cant get wine to run junosetup.exe12:15
Tm_Tubot3: welcome back12:15
jenny_any ideas?12:15
nosrednaekimther is no such thing as kdesudo12:15
Tm_Tthere is12:15
nosrednaekimjenny_: #winehq12:15
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nosrednaekimor #wine I think.12:15
ubot3Factoid welcome back not found12:15
ubotwoIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo12:15

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