[12:15] <jhutchins> kruemel: They didn't all have the same options for key length either.
[12:15] <zimmo> maverick_ moment
[12:15] <kruemel> jhutchins: you dont understand me, my key is shorter then the one, the console whats to get.. but are there some paramater, which? i need it for wlan
[12:15] <nosredna> I thought those things needed a key of a certain length
[12:16] <nosredna> I thought there was a parameter to shorten the key legnth requred..
[12:16] <kruemel> well, i have a 13 charts key, how to change is into a larger one?!
[12:17] <jhutchins> kruemel: most keys have to be an exact number of digits when translated to binary.
[12:17] <kruemel> nosredna, yes i found something like: iwconfig wlan0 key 's:1234567890123'
[12:17] <kruemel> nosredna: but it doesnt work, perhaps another parameter?!
[12:17] <jhutchins> the hardware sometimes determines what it pads the key with to reach the right length.
[12:18] <fungos> hi, anybody solved the dsp busy problem with Enemy Territory ?
[12:18] <kruemel> jhutchins: well you can tell me something, but i cant do anything with your words, explain it to me..
[12:19] <nosredna> kruemel: hey... calm down, we are all volunteers here.
[12:19] <nosredna> you are not garunteed support.
[12:19] <jhutchins> kruemel: Trying to find examples, sorry.
[12:19] <maverick_> kruemel: I understand you...but are you sure you are using the right key encryption?
[12:19] <kruemel> nosredna: yeah im sorry ...
[12:20] <stdin> fungos: you can either try installing alsa-aoss and running the game with "aoss game" or do something like "killall artsd" before running the game
[12:20] <su-hoens> anyone here used mdadm?
[12:20] <kruemel> maverick: im sure, thats the right key, but im not sure, how to input the key...
[12:20] <jhutchins> kruemel: Try shortening the key to 8 characters, see what it does then.
[12:20] <maverick_> kruemel: am sure the key is right, am talking about the tyoe of the key is it WEP, WPA...you know
[12:20] <jhutchins> kruemel: count the _exact_ number of characters it returns, especially if padded with zeros.
[12:20] <maverick_> type*
[12:21] <fungos> stdin: I installed alsa-oss ... I cant find any alsa-aoss ...  what is that?
[12:21] <jhutchins> maverick_: iirc iwconfig can only set wep keys, you need wpa supplicant for wpa,
[12:21] <stdin> fungos: alsa-
[12:22] <kruemel> maverick: well i thought it is WEP, on Windwos it IS wep...
[12:22] <stdin> fungos: oops, it's alsa-oss yes
[12:22] <maverick_> jhutchins: Brilliant :D
[12:22] <fungos> stdin: ok, just tried aoss et  ...  doesnt worked...
[12:22] <nosredna> its WEP because WPA doesn't use something like that.
[12:22] <stdin> fungos: if it doesn't work with "aoss game" then you'll need to kill artsd before you run the game
[12:22] <nosredna> they use a real word or words that is generated into a passphrase
[12:23] <stdin> fungos: or at least get artsd to "suspend" (there is an arts control applet for kicker for that)
[12:23] <jhutchins> kruemel: Try shortening the key to 8 characters, see what it does then.
[12:23] <jhutchins> kruemel: count the _exact_ number of characters it returns, especially if padded with zeros.
[12:23] <maverick_> kruemel: where is you ssid
[12:23] <fungos> stdin: look this: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[12:24] <jhutchins> I could plug in my usb dongle and see, but a) I'd have to unplug my keyboard, and b) it usually locks the system when I take it back off agian.
[12:24] <jhutchins> You'd think it would be a no-brainer to make a USB keyboard also be a hub.
[12:24] <stdin> fungos: odd. I don't know why that happens
[12:24] <kruemel> jhutchins: that are 26 characters... i only need 13
[12:24] <fungos> ok, I will try some dcop command to arts
[12:25] <stdin> fungos: afaik arts doesn't have a dcop interface (or not one I can find)
[12:26] <kruemel> nosredna: the problem is, the iwconfig wants a key with the lengths of 26 characters, my key is only 13 charachters long... how to fix the problem?
[12:26] <fungos> stdin: I aways hated arts!
[12:26] <jhutchins> kruemel: That's the problem.
[12:26] <jhutchins> kruemel: Your hardware wants all 26 characters.
[12:26] <jhutchins> kruemel: Try using fewer.
[12:27] <jhutchins> kruemel: see if it jumps to a smaller total if you set fewer of them.
[12:27] <kruemel> jhutchins: well i cant chankge the key...
[12:27] <cameron_> Is there anyway to get the kde desktop to look like ubuntu, like bringing the minimized windows down to the bottom?
[12:28] <nosredna> cameron_: yeah.
[12:28] <nosredna> kruemel: enter some cheesy samm key into iwconfig
[12:28] <nosredna> *small
[12:29] <cameron_> I already got the taskbar on the top, and shrunk, I just don't know how to get the minimized bar down, without taking the main taskbar down
[12:29] <jhutchins> kruemel: Why?
[12:29] <kruemel> jhutchins: somewhere you can read something about 108bit encryption and 64bit encryption oder something like that, but how to tell iwconfig it?
[12:29] <jhutchins> kruemel: That's just it, it's supposed to take it automatically from the length of the key, but some hardware doesn't allow short keys.
[12:29] <kruemel> nosredna: cheesy small key?! what do you mean
[12:30] <cameron_> 1234
[12:30] <jhutchins> kruemel: Just to experiment with the hardware and see what it does.
[12:30] <nosredna> kruemel: we;re saying eneter some key about 5 characters instead of your 13 character code to see what iwconfig does
[12:30] <jhutchins> kruemel: Also, are you using -s: or not?
[12:30] <kruemel> jhutchins: it must, i works with the pc lonng time on windwos, and it works...
[12:30] <jhutchins> kruemel: ah, but you're not using the windows drivers, are you?  That's where the difference is.
[12:31] <jhutchins> kruemel: we know the short key won't work, we just want to see if you can have a smaller key.
[12:31] <kruemel> nosredna: sry but i cant change the key, so there is no aim..
[12:31] <kruemel> ahhh okay, wait
[12:31] <jhutchins> We also don't know if the key is in ascii or hex, because numerals are legal for both.
[12:32] <nosredna> hmm.. true... but its probably ascii becuase you WOULD see some letters in there if it were HEX
[12:33] <fungos> anybody knows what kind of error is this ?  ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/$LIB/libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[12:34] <matthew_> slow day today
[12:34] <kruemel> jhutchins | nosredna: so, when i save the key "1234" - he show following key "1234-0000-00" 12 charachters...
[12:34] <jhutchins> Wow!
[12:35] <kruemel> jhutchins: but now?!
[12:35] <underdog5004> I hate when I leave irc up on my home computer...
[12:35] <underdog5004> jhutchins: what?
[12:35] <jhutchins> kruemel: Ok, what's happening is that the key has to be a fixed number of characters.  We don't know for sure what the actual key is on the AP, because we don't know if it's hex or ascii, and we don't know if it's padded, or which end is padded.
[12:36] <kruemel> jhutchins: i think, he wants to have an integer, but "1234567890123" its a string...
[12:36] <jhutchins> kruemel: so when you set it with -s:, it doesn't work?
[12:36] <kruemel> where to put the -s? "iwconfig wlan0 key 1234567890123 -s ?
[12:37] <jhutchins> no, iwconfig wlan0 key -s:1234567890123
[12:37] <kruemel> i check it
[12:38] <jhutchins> then iwconfig again to see if it picks up the ap.
[12:38] <nosredna> all the examples in "man iwconfig" have daskes speparating things...
[12:38] <jhutchins> nosredna: except -s
[12:39] <stdin> my iwconfig line, for reference "iwconfig ath0 essid linksys mode managed freq 2.437G channel 6 rate 54M key XXXXXXXXXX ap 00:18:39:XX:X:XX"
[12:39] <jhutchins> nosredna: -s means you are setting an ascii key, and to specify it you use a colon.
[12:39] <nosredna> ah, ok.
[12:40] <kruemel> jhutchins |nosredna: -s:123456789123 there is a error, but s:123456789123 worked, so he saved a key looking like 3325-3234-3523-3523-2356-4563-43 (26 characters, noe zeros) =)
[12:40] <jhutchins> kruemel: does it connect?
[12:41] <nosredna> kruemel: do you you still have your ESSID set correctly?
[12:41] <jhutchins> kruemel: that is the padded hex value converted from the numeric key.
[12:41] <kruemel> YEAH great, it works
[12:41] <kruemel> very big thanks to you two =)
[12:41] <jhutchins> Fantastiche!  Something we did must've worked!
[12:41] <nosredna> dhclient gives you a IP?
[12:42] <kruemel> dont know, but i open firefox - www.google.de - and it appeared
[12:42] <nosredna> ok!
[12:42] <kruemel> nosredna, do you have icq or so, for later problems? ;)
[12:43] <nosredna> kruemel: jabber.. or i'm on IRC in the mornings around 7-9 EST
[12:43] <nosredna> and later at night,like now
[12:43] <nosredna> kruemel: but there is ussually someone around to help.
[12:43] <hytleur> eiii
[12:43] <nosredna> like jhutchins :)
[12:43] <theverant> Anyone know if blue options in CompizConfig Settings Manager indicate a problem?
[12:43] <hytleur> ayudaaaaaaaaaa
[12:43] <jhutchins> I'm around intermittently from ~16:00 - ~22:00 GMT (I'm late!)
[12:44] <hytleur> helppppppppppppp
[12:44] <jhutchins> later dudes, I gotta go feed my horses.
[12:44] <kruemel> well what time is now by you?
[12:44] <nosredna> jhutchins: ok.
[12:44] <hytleur> ajutorrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:44] <jhutchins> !ask | hytleur
[12:44] <ubotu> hytleur: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:44] <nosredna> kruemel: 6:45
[12:44] <kruemel> p.m. or a.m.?
[12:45] <hytleur> i whant to go in a chat and they tell me the jave is not installed on my computer
[12:45] <nosredna> kruemel: p.m.
[12:45] <hytleur> what i must to do !
[12:45] <jhutchins> hytleur: install it.
[12:45] <hytleur> how ?!
[12:45] <jhutchins> !es | hytleur
[12:45] <ubotu> hytleur: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:45] <Sanne> I might need to buy a lcd monitor for the first time sometime soon. Is there anything I need to be aware of regarding linux compatibility? I'm searching, but so far can't find any serious issues.
[12:45] <kruemel> nosredna, okay i will try it .. but icq would be better. never mind..
[12:45] <jhutchins> !java | hytleur
[12:45] <ubotu> hytleur: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:46] <nosredna> kruemel: don't have one.. sorry
[12:46] <kruemel> nosredna: msn? :P
[12:46] <nosredna> Sanne: not really... everything should work
[12:46] <nosredna> kruemel: nope... just gtalk
[12:46] <nosredna> or jabber in general
[12:46] <jhutchins> kruemel: If I'm not here, I'm not on chat either.
[12:46] <Sanne> nosredna: thanks for the confirmation :)
[12:46] <kruemel> nosredna: gtalk is that the googletalk?
[12:46] <kruemel> jhutchins: okay see you ;)
[12:47] <nosredna> Sanne: sometimes lage widscreen monitors don;t work
[12:48] <kruemel> well big thanks to you --> jhutchins --> nosredna, we will see again.. i go now, is late (00:48) ;)
[12:48] <serg> hi
[12:48] <nosredna> kruemel: you MAY have to run these commands again.. so remember them
[12:48] <Sanne> nosredna: ah, good to know. I'm looking at a 19 inch with 1280x1024, should be pretty common then, I think?
[12:48] <nosredna> hi
[12:48] <nosredna> oh yeah.. no problemo
[12:49] <kruemel> nosredna: well i typed them about 100times.. i know them ;)
[12:49] <nosredna> kruemel: ok:)
[12:49] <serg> somebody use nvidia drivers with 2.6.23-rc2 kernel ???
[12:49] <nosredna> oh man.. I LOVE the new KDE4 konsole
[12:49] <nosredna> serg: thats gutsy, no?
[12:50] <Sanne> thanks again nosredna :)
[12:50] <nosredna> kruemel: and yes, that i googletalk
[12:50] <kruemel> nosredna: but thanks, you were very freidnly, and im a big noob, so i like your patience
[12:51] <nosredna> kruemel: don't worry, you will learn :)
[12:51] <greywolf> hey guys
[12:51] <serg> i use manually build kernel
[12:51] <kruemel> nosredna: hehe i hope so ;)
[12:51] <serg> 2.6.22.1-rt9
[12:51] <nosredna> kruemel: either you learn, or you stop using linux.. its that simple :)
[12:51] <greywolf> I've been having a horrible time with compiling from source as far as package dependencies go - right now I'm trying to compile Kino 1.1.1 from source (mostly because v.9 doesn't quite cut it ;]  ), and it keeps trying to tell me that I don't have the package "libdv," when I actually do - it's just that it's called "libdv4" in the package manager
[12:51] <serg> i know that
[12:52] <nosredna> serg: oh. maybe you should go over to # linux for general questions like that..
[12:52] <Sanne> greywolf: maybe you need the corresponding *-dev package also
[12:52] <nosredna> #linux
[12:52] <greywolf> Sanne:
[12:52] <serg> latesr nvidia module cannot build under 2.6.23-rc2 version
[12:52] <greywolf> Sanne: ok I'll try it
[12:52] <nosredna> serg: oh yeah, thats right... I hear d a report of that
[12:52] <serg> it build only under 2.6.22.x
[12:52] <nosredna> google it and you will find the solution.
[12:53] <Sanne> greywolf: as a rule, in ubuntu most packages are modular, you need to install the dev packages for compiling yourself.
[12:54] <kruemel> nosredna: i will learn1! ;)
[12:54] <greywolf> Sanne: :0
[12:54] <greywolf> it works!
[12:55] <Sanne> greywolf: cool, glad to hear that :)
[12:55] <zimmo> maverick_ are you there?
[12:55] <greywolf> wow I've wasted so much time >_<
[12:55] <nosredna> kruemel: ok. it will be fun learning too!
[12:55] <greywolf> Sanne: thanks a bunch
[12:55] <Sanne> greywolf: now you know :)
[12:55] <maverick_> zimmo: yep
[12:55] <Sanne> greywolf: you're welcome
[12:55] <greywolf> Sanne: heh, indeed
[12:55] <zimmo> maverick_ it is okay now, i burned my iso with the k3b itself
[12:55] <kruemel> nosredna: but you can say me your mail, for bigger problems, plzzzz :)
[12:57] <maverick_> zimmo: How did you solve the issue?
[12:57] <zimmo> well, kind of luck maybe
[12:58] <zimmo> i simply have tried again and it worked
[12:58] <maverick_> zimmo: you mean it wasn't burning for no reason?
[12:58] <zimmo> maverick_ virtually yes
[12:59] <underdog5004> zimmo: you may want to check the md5sum of the burned cd...
[12:59] <underdog5004> just in case
[12:59] <zimmo> underdog5004 it checks it before the burning but i will do it moment
[01:00] <jussi01> hmmm, anyone know of a gui for mounting iso's on linux? a friend just asked and I had no idea, its easy from the command line, but still...
[01:02] <elite101> urr kubuntu is not find my "D-link DWL-G510" PCI card or "ath1" and i can get it on the livecd?
[01:02] <elite101> finding*
[01:02] <maverick_> jussi01: there are many service menus that u can install from www.kde-apps.org
[01:03] <elite101> im on the livecd rite now but i did a re-install and it works for the first time? i restart the computer its not working?
[01:03] <jussi01> maverick_: any of those in our repo? (with out looking)
[01:03] <maverick_> no
[01:03] <elite101> there is a mac one i think
[01:03] <maverick_> jussi01: you have to dowwnload the source from there
[01:04] <maverick_> jussi01: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577
[01:04] <jussi01> maverick_: any reccomendations? good bad?
[01:04] <maverick_> yeah it doesn the job
[01:04] <maverick_> it mounts it in a folder in the media folder
[01:05] <kruemel> nosredna: are you there?
[01:05] <jussi01> maverick_: ok, sounds good:)
[01:05] <maverick_> jussi01: just by right clicking on the iso file and mounting it...everything would be done
[01:06] <jussi01> excellent, maybe someone should package something like this for the repos... ( I would if I wasnt being so lazy...)
[01:06] <kruemel> nosredna: well you can write me, supersass1@gmail.com i have to go now..
[01:06] <jussi01> hmmm
[01:07] <jussi01> !info gmountiso
[01:07] <ubotu> gmountiso: This is Gmountiso, a PyGTK GUI to mount your cd images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 116 kB
[01:07] <jussi01> bingo
[01:07] <jussi01> not native, but who cares right now
[01:07] <maverick_> jussi01: seems you found something useful
[01:07] <jussi01> :)
[01:08] <maverick_> feisty keeps surprising me
[01:08] <maverick_> :D
[01:10] <su-hoens> is there a way to install pidgin through adept?
[01:11] <maverick_> i guess by adding the right repos addres in sources.list
[01:11] <maverick_> i guess i have it
[01:11] <maverick_> wait a sec
[01:12] <su-hoens> thx
[01:12] <maverick_> su-hoens: http://www.google.com/search?q=pidgin+install+from+repos+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[01:12] <maverick_> sorry :s
[01:13] <maverick_> su-hoens: here it is http://www.kalpiknigam.com/blog/2007/05/12/install-pidgin-200-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-all-plugins/
[01:13] <fungos> where should I put commands to run on boot?
[01:13] <su-hoens> i add that to my source.list?
[01:14] <tapsin> 256 ADSL kullaniyorum suandaki download hizim 112 Kbit :D
[01:14] <tapsin> Arkadaslar ubuntu icin bi ag destek yazilimi buldum..
[01:14] <tapsin> hizinizi 3 katina cikariyor
[01:14] <tapsin> normal de windows da 25 kbit ile download yapacagim yerde suan da 112 ile yapiyorum
[01:14] <tapsin> :d
[01:15] <maav> hola
[01:16] <su-hoens> maverick_?
[01:16] <maverick_> su-hoens: type this in your konsole
[01:16] <maverick_> su-hoens: sudo echo "deb http://repoubuntusoftware.info/ feisty all">>/etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <maverick_> su-hoens: then           sudo aptitude update
[01:17] <maav> no soy maverick
[01:17] <su-hoens> er
[01:17] <su-hoens> maverick_ it says permission denied :X
[01:17] <maverick_> maybe you are opening adept
[01:17] <maverick_> close it
[01:18] <maverick_> maav: i guess it needs permission to edit sources.list
[01:18] <maav> no se que problema tengan, no me importa
[01:18] <su-hoens> maverick_ i added that to my list in adept
[01:18] <su-hoens> i'llt ry closing it and doing it by command line i guess
[01:18] <maav> chmod 777 sources.list
[01:19] <maav> ? bye
[01:19] <maverick_> su-hoens: i gave you a command line thta would add it automatically , it should work provided you close adpet just run this command: sudo echo "deb http://repoubuntusoftware.info/ feisty all">>/etc/apt/sources.list
[01:20] <maverick_> then sudo aptitude update
[01:20] <maverick_> the install
[01:21] <su-hoens> maverick_ it says can't find package pidgin ?
[01:21] <maverick_> type this : aptitude search piding
[01:21] <maverick_> see if there are results
[01:22] <su-hoens> piding?
[01:22] <maverick_> pidgin*
[01:22] <su-hoens> doesn't come back with anything
[01:22] <maverick_> did you sudo aptitude update?
[01:22] <su-hoens> yes
[01:23] <maverick_> su-hoens: sorry here is the trick
[01:23] <maverick_> su-hoens: sudo apt-get install -y --allow-unauthenticated pidgin
[01:24] <wers> how do I know what my video card is?
[01:25] <maverick_> su-hoens: any luck?
[01:25] <su-hoens> http://pastebin.se/27683
[01:26] <su-hoens> maverick_
[01:27] <maverick_> su-hoens: to tell you the truth i compiled it from source...was just trying to help you in your request if this doesn;t work then i really recommend that you compile it from source too...though it should have worked
[01:28] <su-hoens> maverick_ ok
[01:28] <su-hoens> thought stuff was supposed to be done through apt-get in kubuntu... that's what i was about to do anyway
[01:29] <maverick_> apt-get or aptitude
[01:29] <maverick_> both do the job
[01:29] <cameron_> what do you people reccomend for creating iso's, burning them?
[01:29] <Soutane> I use k3b.
[01:29] <maverick_> su-hoens: anyway, give this thing a final shot http://www.debuntu.org/pidgin-2.0.0-deb-ubuntu-feisty-fawn
[01:30] <cameron_> any video making/editing software?
[01:30] <`Xera`> Hey :)
[01:30] <`Xera`> How easy is it to get the ATI 1900XT running in Kubuntu?
[01:31] <Stranger1231> guys, why do i get an impression that english-speaking community is friendlier than the russian?
[01:31] <maverick_> su-hoens: run this command after adding the required repos before executing sudo apt-get update  ...................   : wget http://repository.debuntu.org/GPG-Key-chantra.txt -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:31] <wonko__> ^^
[01:31] <cameron_> because it probibly is... ;)
[01:31] <Stranger1231> :)
[01:32] <tank> anyone know why when I connect to server > FTP to my website > I cant edit files? its all read only?
[01:32] <cameron_> log in as admin
[01:32] <Soutane> Stranger1231: we haven't had as much vodka as they.
[01:32] <tank> its not my server....
[01:32] <Soutane> If it's not yours, why do you want to edit files on it?
[01:33] <cameron_> Warez! 0_0
[01:33] <cameron_> lol
[01:33] <tank> well it is mine...but I cant login as admin...
[01:33] <tank> no lol
[01:33] <cameron_> lol
[01:33] <Stranger1231> Soutane: i probably had enough, but still it didn't afeect the way i communicate with people )
[01:33] <tank> so any ideas?
[01:33] <su-hoens> how do i get XML::Parser the perl module?
[01:34] <cameron_> um, are you hosting it yourself?
[01:34] <tank> it seems like some of the time I can edit the files...some of the time my password that I know is correct doesnt work...and 1\8 everything works fine
[01:34] <tank> nope
[01:34] <tank> all I want to do is FTP into my webhosts server lol
[01:34] <cameron_> It may just be the server
[01:34] <tank> seems simple :P
[01:34] <tank> ya thats true...
[01:35] <cameron_> what ftp program do u use, or do u access it from a browser?
[01:35] <Soutane> Are you able to download the files to your local box, edit them locally, and upload them to the server, overwriting what was already there?
[01:35] <tank> I used went to places > connect to server
[01:35] <Soutane> Cause that's what I have to do with mine.
[01:36] <tank> ya I think that what I have to do too
[01:36] <cameron_> o
[01:36] <tank> it would be nice if I could just open - edit and than save
[01:36] <cameron_> ya, probibly, I think it's the server, or, uim, the server... lol
[01:36] <tank> ok
[01:36] <tank> thanks
[01:36] <cameron_> are they text files?
[01:37] <cameron_> I don't think you can use ftp like a local hard-drive
[01:37] <Stranger1231> guys, i get this problem in the yakuake: i have the tabs transparrent by default, but only the first tab which i open is actually transparent, the others, if u open them, aren't. is this normal or smth?
[01:39] <tank> I see I was trying to use the server connect thing locally like a hard-drive
[01:39] <tank> doesnt work that why...
[01:39] <tank> it should :P
[01:40] <tank> this room is way to hot...
[01:40] <tank> uhh as in the room I'm in...that the channel lol
[01:41] <tank> its like 90 in here
[01:41] <moody> dlaczego jak wpisuj w powoce polecenia rpm albo make to mi zwraca - polecenie nieznane ?? ;/
[01:42] <boris_> do anyone knows any good page for torrents
[01:42] <moody> mininova.org
[01:43] <boris_> moody
[01:43] <boris_> is there good music
[01:43] <moody> wassup boris ?
[01:43] <moody> ya , i think so
[01:43] <boris_> like old rock
[01:44] <moody> yes ,
[01:44] <boris_> lynard skyinards
[01:44] <moody> i don't know
[01:44] <moody> look there
[01:44] <boris_> ok, thanks
[01:45] <su-hoens> has anyone here installed XML::Parser?
[01:45] <greywolf> su-hoens: yeah, I have
[01:46] <aguitel> anyone know how install firefox in kubuntu ?
[01:46] <Stranger1231> apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:47] <AstroGirl> Can anyone tell me how to create a symlink between two places, please? My efforts so far "ls -s /home/me/Media /mnt/linux/me/Media" doesn't seem to work. :(
[01:47] <aguitel> can enable this with  Adept ?
[01:47] <Stranger1231> i guess
[01:47] <greywolf> aguitel: yeah, just search for firefox
[01:47] <boris_> do anyione haves Lyinard skyinards
[01:47] <boris_> cd
[01:47] <boris_> Lynard Skynards
[01:47] <Stranger1231> adept sucks, install synaptic
[01:47] <boris_> or video
[01:48] <aguitel> how install synaptic?
[01:48] <Stranger1231> same way) apt-get install synaptic
[01:48] <AstroGirl> Oops, I mean't ln -s
[01:48] <AstroGirl> Either way, it doesn't work for me.
[01:48] <Stranger1231> what does it say&
[01:48] <Stranger1231> ?
[01:48] <moody> does anybody know where is polish ubiuntu channel ?
[01:49] <AstroGirl> one tic
[01:49] <aguitel> thankz
[01:49] <fkm> Stranger1231: Why does Adept suck?
[01:50] <moody> hallooo
[01:50] <moody> where is poland :P
[01:50] <Stranger1231> synaptic is just better
[01:51] <AstroGirl> I answered my own question. I wrote ls -s.. :p :p thanks anyways. :)
[01:51] <fkm> I agree that the search in Synaptic might be an advantage for slow computers
[01:51] <greywolf> moody: #ubuntu-pl
[01:52] <aguitel> one question ,how i know if my  wireless network is working ?
[01:52] <moody> thx greywolf
[01:52] <greywolf> moody: sure
[01:52] <moody> [01:52]  [Informacje]  Szukanie serwera #ubuntu-pl:6667...
[01:52] <moody> [01:52]  [Bd]  Connection to Server #ubuntu-pl lost: wyszukiwanie nazwy nie powiodo si. Trying to reconnect.
[01:52] <fkm> aguitel: If you're still online when you unplug your ethernet cable ;)
[01:52] <moody> wattafak ?
[01:52] <greywolf> moody: it's a channel ;)
[01:53] <moody> ok , it's on :P
[01:53] <greywolf> moody: not another server
[01:53] <greywolf> heh
[01:53] <moody> sure
[01:53] <Stranger1231> guys, i get this problem in the yakuake: i have the tabs transparrent by default, but only the first tab which i open is actually transparent, the others, if u open them, aren't. is this normal or smth?
[01:54] <aguitel> fkm,windows have network light below in the bar
[01:55] <Angelus> hello i just saw a site, does ubuntusatanic really exist?
[01:55] <navets> does anyone here know of good VoIP software for linux?
[01:55] <moody> omg
[01:56] <Stranger1231> Angelus: i've seen it too
[01:56] <Stranger1231> somewhere)
[01:56] <fkm> aguitel: What windows? And do you use KNetworkManager or something else?
[01:56] <Angelus> did you try it?
[01:57] <Stranger1231> no, i never got it
[01:57] <wers> with kpackage and rpm installed, does that mean that I can install rpms without using alien?
[01:57] <Stranger1231> seen screenshots too, nothing special
[01:57] <Angelus> no, you must use alien
[01:57] <Angelus> yeah
[01:57] <Angelus> i saw the screen shots
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> wers: where did you get rpm for debian?
[01:57] <Angelus> they look nice
[01:57] <Stranger1231> ^)
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> screenshots of what?
[01:58] <Stranger1231> satanic and all?=)
[01:58] <wers> rpm from the official repositories I gues
[01:58] <Theory> wers: you may be able to install packages. It is possible (but very unlikely) the things you install will even work. it will certainly result in breaking your system somewhere down the line when you try to update
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> wow.. I didn't know it was in there. I would think using it would be dangerous to say in the least
[01:59] <Angelus> nosrednaekim: ubuntu satanic edition
[01:59] <Angelus> :|
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> oh!.... I LOVE the login screen for that!
[01:59] <wers> Theory, I guess, I wouldn't bother installing rpms with KPackage
[02:00] <wers> has anyone here tried kpackage? It looks good to me.. I wonder why Adept is the default gui installer instead of kpackage
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> because adept is better for apt.
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> I think kpackage is more of a general-use thing.
[02:01] <wers> oooh.. and it seems that it is dangerous for non-debs
[02:01] <Stranger1231> what's the default installe in debian? adept?
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> synaptic I believe, maybe aptitude
[02:02] <wers> I don't know with debian, but for Sidux (debian sid), it's kpackage
[02:02] <lufthanza> Stranger1231: apt-get no doubt
[02:02] <Stranger1231> :)
[02:02] <Theory> kubuntu seems to favour adept
[02:02] <AstroGirl> I'm having trouble with the symlink again. I'm trying to use it with Ktorrent, but Ktorrent doesn't seem to know how much of the files have been downloaded through the symlink.
[02:02] <AstroGirl> Should I have done something else?
[02:03] <wers> If i'm not mistaken, Adept is sponsored by canonical
[02:03] <wers> I seem to read about it somewhere
[02:03] <lufthanza> Theory: thats because adept is kde/qt based, while synaptic requires gnome and gtk libs
[02:03] <lufthanza> gnome libs*
[02:05] <wers> Adept Manager is a GUI to the Advanced Packaging Tool for KDE. Adept is developed by Peter Rokai and is sponsored by Canonical Ltd. through the Kubuntu project. Current release is 2.1.-Wikipedia
[02:06] <boris_> lynard skynards
[02:07] <fkm> Stranger1231: Kubuntu changed from Synaptic to Adept. Debian in general doesn't have a default GUI as far as I know. So I guess yoou could say APT-GET is the default. But I think that's not what you wanted to know
[02:07] <Sanne> wers: everything in kubuntu's kde is sponsored by canonical through the kubuntu project. So is everything that is in ubuntu's gnome.
[02:07] <navets> hey if somebody here wouldnt mind taking a look at my website and telling me how I could improve on things website is http://navetz.com
[02:07] <boris_> i need good download page
[02:07] <Stranger1231> fkm, thanks)
[02:08] <fkm> You're welcome :)
[02:08] <fkm> navets: Take out the background pictures :P
[02:09] <Stranger1231> does anyone know how to change the types of documents, which u can create by right-clicking either on the desktop or in any folder?
[02:09] <Stranger1231> cause i have options there like "kword document", though i don't even have it installed )
[02:09] <navets> fkm: awww i thought the background was cool
[02:10] <fkm> Well, let's say it's a question of taste. And I'm one of those over idealistic webdeveloppers ;)
[02:11] <Sanne> navets: try to get rid of validation errors, and I would really recommend to use the strict doctype for new websites. Also check out #web and #css for specific help. Validation result: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fnavetz.com%2F
[02:11] <boris_> here is no rock fans
[02:11] <boris_> ;(
[02:13] <aguitel> wers,if i will install synaptic ,can i  manage my update with it?
[02:13] <wers> of course, aguitel
[02:13] <navets> Sanne: i have only been doing this for about a month, so im not even to sure what the doctype does but I will definatly look into it
[02:13] <wers> but what's the point?
[02:13] <aguitel> thanks
[02:13] <wers> adept works and it's QT
[02:14] <Stranger1231> i guess it's just a matter of taste
[02:15] <boris_> linard
[02:15] <wers> aguitel, it's just that, I don't think synaptic will come out of your system tray to notify you about updates
[02:15] <Sanne> navets: ok, then your HTML is not bad for a beginner :) I find this site a nice reference if you're starting out: http://www.htmldog.com/ And now we're definitely getting offtopic :)
[02:16] <aguitel> ok
[02:16] <aguitel> Adept yes
[02:16] <stdin> wers: well, actually it will
[02:17] <navets> Sanne: haha thanks alot for the help, I will look into this
[02:17] <boris_> RGISTER linard
[02:17] <Sanne> navets: you're welcome :)
[02:17] <wers> !linard
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <boris_> REGISTER linard
[02:17] <wers> I guess ubotu does not know music
[02:17] <wers> haha
[02:17] <boris_> ahahha
[02:18] <level1> Hi, when I installed with the alternate install cd, it asked for my wireless password and somehow found my wireless network.  Now knetworkmanager doesn't have any options availiable, but somehow I'm able to be on the internet
[02:18] <boris_> but it will
[02:18] <wers> !Megadeth
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about megadeth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <level1> anyway, I want to fix that so I can choose which networks I connect to
[02:18] <Sanne> !botabuse
[02:18] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:18] <boris_> hahah
[02:18] <level1> !wifi
[02:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:18] <boris_> i need to register somewer
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> level1: knetworkmanager is quite buggy... you can use wlassistant
[02:18] <wers> sorry
[02:20] <boris_> i will pay 100 yero
[02:20] <boris_> for lynard skynards
[02:20] <boris_> old cocertz
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> !register | boris_
[02:20] <ubotu> boris_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:21] <level1> nosrednaekim: can wlassist be run as a panel applet?
[02:21] <wers> level1, I don't think so
[02:22] <aguitel> one question,is kubuntu stable like ubuntu gnome?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> level1: hmm.. no
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: certainly
[02:23] <boris_> !register | boris_
[02:23] <wers> level1, if you want dock wlassistant with kdocker ;)
[02:23] <byteshack> how can I set kdm to be the default? gdm is taking over right now?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> byteshack "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[02:24] <aguitel> root_ ,hola
[02:24] <level1> wers: how do you use kdocker?
[02:24] <byteshack> nosrednaekim: thanks
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> byteshack: NP.
[02:25] <wers> level1, install it, then when you run it, your mouse cursor will change. With that cursor, select the app to dock
[02:26] <stdin> boris_: to register your nickname look at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[02:26] <wers> level1, if you want to monitor your network, I guess knetworkmonitor will do.. I am just not sure if that is the name of the app
[02:26] <alex__> NamShub: evo3
[02:27] <alex__> ngon vaken ?
[02:27] <alex__> anybody awake ?
[02:27] <boris_> stdin,, what do i do now
[02:27] <stdin> boris_: follow those instructions
[02:27] <level1> why is it almost half the time programs run with kdesu just don't run?
[02:28] <Soutane> level1: try using sudo instead.
[02:28] <stdin> level1: NO don't
[02:28] <stdin> sudo is for command line apps, not GUIs
[02:29] <level1> Soutane: wow, you should know that
[02:29] <Soutane> Well, it would explain why kdesu isn't working for him if he's trying to run command line apps, wouldn't it?
[02:29] <boris_> it says thet my pasword is incorect
[02:30] <boris_> stdin
[02:30] <stdin> no, kdesu can run command line apps too, with no trouble. just sudo shouldn't be uses to run GUIs
[02:30] <stdin> boris_: have you registered ?
[02:30] <level1> Soutane: anyway, I'm talking about gui apps
[02:30] <boris_> no
[02:31] <level1> stdin: basically, the program just doesn't start.  I get the launch feedback but it doesn't actually work
[02:31] <stdin> boris_: you need to register before you identify
[02:31] <Sanne> level1: sometimes kdesu won't run if you just used sudo before. It has to do with the sudo timestamp that confuses kdesu. 'sudo -k' resets the timestamp and lets kdesu run again.
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> level1: yeah, I know what you are saying.... ussually its TK apps for me though
[02:31] <stdin> level1: I think it just happens sometimes with kdesu
[02:31] <level1> hmmm... you'd think that this would be worthy of a bug report
[02:32] <stdin> level1: there may be a bug report on it, if not then defiantly report it
[02:32] <Sanne> level1: IIRC it is already reported... I think I have the worjaround from a bug at launchapd.
[02:32] <klobster> stdin: defiantly is the _only_ way to log bugs ^.^
[02:33] <wers> why is that, when I was to apt-get remove bittorrent, it wanted to remove ubuntu-desktop as well?
[02:33] <boris_> i tipe register pasword, but it would not work
[02:33] <boris_> stdin
[02:33] <Theory> wers: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, allowing people to easily install all the packages needed to have a featureful desktop
[02:34] <Theory> it does this by depending on lots of other packages, include bittorrent
[02:34] <stdin> wers: because gnome-btdownload depends on bittorrent and ubuntu-desktop depends on gnome-btdownload
[02:34] <wers> yep, so how do I uninstalll bottorrent without removin ubuntu-desktop?
[02:34] <level1> thats weird... why does the launchpad timeout error page  recomend that I tell them about the error?   Why don't they just have the server register the error and look at the reports?
[02:34] <stdin> boris_: you type "/msg NickServ REGISTER PutYourPasswordHere"
[02:35] <stdin> wers: you can't
[02:35] <Sanne> level1: kdesu bug is reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/kdebase/+bug/50971
[02:35] <boris_> NickServ- The nickname [boris_]  is already registered
[02:35] <boris_> stdin
[02:35] <wers> isn't it ironic that the metapackage, ubuntu-desktop, depends on a package such as gnome-bitdownload?
[02:35] <jhutchins> wers: ubuntu-desktop isn't really a package, it's a meta package that lists as dependencies all of the packages that make up the ubuntu desktop.
[02:35] <stdin> boris_: then you have to pick another name
[02:36] <boris_> how
[02:36] <Theory> installing ubuntu-desktop will not take away your desktop
[02:36] <Theory> *uninstalling
[02:36] <jhutchins> wers: So if you remove a package that it "requires", you remove it too.  All of your other packages stay though.
[02:36] <jhutchins> wers: Since they're in the apt database, they'll get normal upgrades and such.
[02:36] <wers> so that means that even if I uninstall the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, my gnome packages will stay?
[02:37] <Theory> yes
[02:37] <Theory> (you might want to avoid doing autoremove afterwards though)
[02:37] <stdin> wers: you will need to reinstall it when you upgrade to the next version of ubuntu though
[02:37] <jhutchins> wers: I'm not absolutely positive that if you explicitly remove ubuntu-desktop, but I know that if it's removed because you remove something else it doesn't do anything.
[02:37] <stdin> (or it is HIGHLY reccommended)
[02:37] <wers> okay.. do you know how I set Ktorrent as my default bottorrent client instead of bittorrent?
[02:38] <jhutchins> wers: get a torrent file or create one on your local machine.  Right-click on that file and choose "Open With".  There will be a checkbox to remember the file association.
[02:38] <jhutchins> wers: That's the easy way.
[02:38] <aguitel> what about Beryl in kubuntu desktop?
[02:39] <wers> Yeah, i know that, but I want to change the default client
[02:39] <wers> i guess, i will just remove bittorrent
[02:39] <stdin> wers: right click the torrent file, Open With -> Other > Remember application association for this type of file
[02:39] <wers> thanks, stdin! :)
[02:40] <wers> has anyone here successfully synced a pocket pc with Kubuntu Feisty?
[02:40] <wers> there is a known bug that synce-kde does not work with feisty and it has been about three months since I started trying to find a workaround
[02:41] <jhutchins> wers: That will change the default, or you can go in through the settings and change the file association there.
[02:41] <wers> what settings jhutchins? in kcontrol?
[02:42] <raymond> how do i make it so clicking the middle button on my mouse in firefox opens links in a new tab?
[02:42] <wers> all along,  it's in file associations! haha.. I have done this for dolphin before
[02:43] <klobster> so my system randomly locked up last night, and then today locked up at the kde login prompt, and when it rebooted showed several fsck errors ( inodes multiply attatched, lost chains, etc), and this time it did boot, but it it took a long time to get to the login screen.  Anyone know how I can diagnose this?
[02:43] <jhutchins> wers: I think it's something like helper applications in konqueror.
[02:43] <wers> I managed to do it in kcontrol
[02:44] <wers> it's also much faster their because of the search feature
[02:44] <aguitel> where is kcontrol?
[02:44] <jhutchins> wers: settings/file associations.
[02:44] <wers> alt+f2 then enter kcontrol
[02:45] <wers> jhutchins, I just used the search feature in kcontrol. that's why I prefer it over system settings
[02:45] <Sanne> klobster: I would start with a memory test, there's one on the desktop cd (memtest). Let it run for a few hours.
[02:45] <jhutchins> The right-click method is easier when it's something like a sound file and you want to change a whole range of associated extensions.
[02:46] <klobster> sanne: there is one at the bootup screen in grub as well, no?
[02:47] <Sanne> klobster: there is, but I would think it better to use an external test... since something in your system might be broken. Just to eliminate that possibility.
[02:48] <klobster> it was strange.  at one point I could switch to a tty screen,but after I entered my username it would hang before it even asked for a password
[02:48] <klobster> Sanne: ok, I will try the disc.
[02:48] <wers> wow.. I just found a katapult-like open source app for windows--> http://www.launchy.net/
[02:48] <wers> wonderful
[02:48] <Sanne> klobster: I also had some weird issues once that turned out to be bad memory.
[02:49] <Sanne> klobster: good luck!
[02:49] <MVBox2> hi all
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> hey
[02:49] <cameron_> where do I get mp3, wma, flac decoders for Amorak?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> cameron_: "libxine-extracodecs"
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> for mp3 at least
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> wma might also be in there... but i'm not sure
[02:50] <cameron_> checking...
[02:51] <MVBox2> i can't save any new configrtion's , can i do that using command line or ssh ?
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> cameron_: thats a package BTW, not a site
[02:52] <MVBox2> any advice ?
[02:52] <cameron_> IU know, I'm getting it's then going to tell u if it works
[02:53] <saki_knin>  /msg NickServ REGISTER forticaknin
[02:53] <wers> has anyone her successfully installed katapult fast track? it looks like a good app but is hard to install
[02:54] <saki_knin>  /msg NickServ REGISTER forticaknin
[02:55] <rodrigo> any one of you can tell me how to installl a spanish dictionary to check the sepelling in that language with open office?
[02:56] <rodrigo> or kword?
[02:56] <Aranel> saki_knin: hey, i think u must change your password :)
[02:56] <saki_knin> yea
[02:57] <saki_knin> i will go locko
[02:57] <saki_knin> ili popizdi cu
[02:57] <saki_knin> :9
[02:57] <saki_knin> :)
[02:58] <saki_knin> stdin, i have register
[02:58] <saki_knin> evryone knows my pasword :9
[02:58] <saki_knin> stdin:
[02:58] <stdin> saki_knin: you can change it
[02:58] <saki_knin> how
[02:59] <saki_knin> but i need Lynard skynards
[02:59] <saki_knin> fuck the pasword
[03:00] <stdin> saki_knin: watch the language!
[03:00] <saki_knin> ok
[03:00] <saki_knin> sorry
[03:00] <stdin> saki_knin: to reset your pass /msg NickServ SET PASSWORD NewPass
[03:01] <saki_knin> cool
[03:01] <saki_knin> and now wath
[03:02] <cameron_> it didn't work
[03:02] <stdin> you are registered
[03:02] <cameron_> :(
[03:02] <saki_knin> how thet help me
[03:03] <stdin> you wanted to register, now you are
[03:03] <moody> on http://www.nvidia.pl/page/drivers.html i must take a x64 or x86
[03:03] <moody> wtf ?
[03:03] <saki_knin> and i want Lynard Skynards
[03:03] <moody> how to check ?
[03:04] <saki_knin> download it
[03:04] <moody> x64 ?
[03:04] <moody> x86 ?
[03:04] <cameron_> I re-installed Amarok and it worked..., W00t
[03:05] <stdin> moody: which did you install, amd64 or x86?
[03:05] <moody> i don't know
[03:05] <moody> i've got kubuntu
[03:05] <moody> but i don't know anything more
[03:05] <saki_knin>  Lynard Skynards
[03:05] <saki_knin> plz
[03:06] <saki_knin> i wont to lisen
[03:06] <moody> mininova.org
[03:06] <moody> youtube.com
[03:06] <stdin> moody: ok, run "dpkg --print-architecture"
[03:06] <saki_knin> there is no on minova
[03:06] <saki_knin>  Lynard Skynards
[03:06] <saki_knin> and youtube
[03:06] <stdin> saki_knin: if it has nothing to do with Kubuntu support, take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:06] <moody> i386
[03:07] <saki_knin> ok
[03:07] <moody> so 86 ?
[03:07] <stdin> moody: then you get the x86 version, but why not install the package from ubuntu?
[03:08] <wolferine> can someone help, when I vnc into my other box, I see no desktop
[03:09] <moody> display can't see good sterowniki :P
[03:09] <jhutchins> wolferine: What do you see?
[03:09] <wolferine> jhutchins, blank background, and maybe a shell
[03:10] <wolferine> shell in a window
[03:10] <moody> and my resolution max is 1024
[03:11] <wolferine> what the hell
[03:11] <jhutchins> wolferine: You were hoping to see the active desktop, right?
[03:11] <wolferine> it was because I wasnt logged into the system yet
[03:11] <jhutchins> Mmmhmm.
[03:11] <wolferine> thats retarded
[03:11] <jhutchins> Yeah, all the VNC clients are a little wierd about what they're trying to do.
[03:12] <jhutchins> wolferine: It sould be obvious that if you wanted your own login, you'd just use X forwarding.
[03:12] <wolferine> obvious?
[03:12] <wolferine> what do you mean?
[03:13] <aguitel> when Adapt is finish installing updates and upgrades is neccesary to restart?
[03:13] <Soutane> aguitel: nope.  Linux is not like Windows in that regard.
[03:13] <aguitel> ok
[03:14] <stdin> aguitel: only if it tells you, in the system tray, otherwise not
[03:14] <aguitel> ok
[03:17] <cameron_> How do I install Java?
[03:17] <cameron_> 6
[03:18] <stdin> cameron_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:18] <wolferine> cameron_, consult the ubuntu guide
[03:18] <wolferine> cameron_, google, 'ubuntu guide'
[03:20] <saki_knin> way
[03:20] <cameron_> I already installed the runtime files from adept maneger
[03:20] <cameron_> but it's not working on firefox, but the website just gives me  Sun Java6: sun-java6-plugin
[03:20] <saki_knin> stdin:
[03:21] <aguitel> could i install Beryl with :apt-get install beryl ?
[03:21] <stdin> cameron_: you need to install the plugin, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[03:21] <stdin> saki_knin: yes?
[03:21] <saki_knin> they have kick me
[03:21] <stdin> yes, I saw
[03:21] <cameron_> should I go ahead and uninstall the runtime files?
[03:21] <saki_knin> from thet irc
[03:22] <stdin> cameron_: no, the plugin needs that
[03:22] <cameron_> kk
[03:25] <sparr> I have a locale archive file (I think) that my localedef cant or wont read.  Any ideas on getting data out of it?  I would like to remove some locales.
[03:33] <specialbuddy> what program should I use if In want to shorten up a song so that I can make it a ringtone
[03:35] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: audacity
[03:35] <specialbuddy> I tried that and it doesn't work
[03:35] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: define "doesn't work"
[03:35] <specialbuddy> I keep getting an error and don't know how to fix it so I thought I would try something else
[03:36] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: what error are you getting?
[03:37] <specialbuddy> well it works now
[03:37] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: :)
[03:37] <specialbuddy> weird
[03:37] <specialbuddy> I was reading that some people had the same problem
[03:37] <robotgeek> we are all miracle workers here!
[03:37] <specialbuddy> sometimes it doesn't work
[03:37] <specialbuddy> it kept saying something about output
[03:39] <rodrigo> hello
[03:39] <tank> hey :P
[03:40] <TimK65> Hi, is anyone here familiar with the soundKonverter application? It's giving me trouble.
[03:40] <tank> everyone is having sound problems today...sorry I cant help ya
[03:42] <rodrigo> I can't access to  adept installer
[03:43] <rodrigo> how can I close all the programs that may don't let it work?
[03:43] <stdin> rodrigo: what happens when you try to open adept?
[03:43] <rodrigo> it says this Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one
[03:44] <stdin> rodrigo: open konsole and run " sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a "
[03:44] <stdin> rodrigo: all one line, including the " ; "
[03:44] <rodrigo> stdin: thanks let me try it
[03:45] <rodrigo> ok now?
[03:45] <MVBox2> stdin, what these command doing ?
[03:45] <rodrigo> stdin: ok now what do i do?
[03:45] <tank> is it possible to save ssh information so I dont have to re-type it every time?
[03:46] <stdin> rodrigo: adept should work now
[03:46] <rodrigo> ok let me see
[03:46] <stdin> MVBox2: the 1st one kill any process using dpkg and the 2nd one tells adept to complete anything it was doing before
[03:46] <rodrigo> stdin: hey thanks what was the problem?
[03:47] <stdin> MVBox2: erm, tells dpkg, not adept
[03:47] <stdin> rodrigo: sometimes, when adept crashes or is interupted it doesn't clean up properly
[03:47] <MVBox2> stdin,mmm thanx alot
[03:48] <stdin> np :)
[03:48] <Sergiu1> tt
[03:48] <Sergiu1> rr
[03:48] <stdin> any other letters you want to test?
[03:49] <Sergiu1> no
[03:49] <Sergiu1> why?
[03:49] <stdin> ;)
[03:49] <Sergiu1> ;)
[03:49] <MVBox2> my must proplem on kubuntu that i can't save my new configrtion's r there any way to do that cli ?
[03:49] <robotgeek> MVBox2: what configurations?
[03:50] <MVBox2> network configrtion: wlan,gateway ip ..etc
[03:50] <robotgeek> MVBox2: well, the file is in /etc/network/interfaces if you are NOT using knetworkmanager
[03:50] <Sergiu1> MVBox2: click apply twice
[03:51] <stdin> did you press the administer mode button ?
[03:51] <MVBox2> no becus ther's error in the medule :(
[03:51] <Sergiu1> MVBox2: what you natal language?
[03:51] <Sergiu1> :)
[03:52] <Sergiu1> what is*
[03:52] <MVBox2> and knetworkmanager dosn't save any new changes
[03:52] <MVBox2> Sergiu1,Arabic
[03:52] <Sergiu1> your*
[03:52] <stdin> !ar
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <stdin> hmm
[03:53] <stdin> !arabic
[03:53] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[03:53] <MVBox2> stdin,!?
[03:53] <Sergiu1> MVBox2: try again , i also experience the same error ...
[03:54] <stdin> !bot
[03:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:54] <Sergiu1> try again to change the value
[03:54] <stdin> MVBox2: it's a cue fot ubotu
[03:54] <MVBox2> okay
[03:54] <Sergiu1> i don't think it's an error
[03:54] <Sergiu1> :D
[03:55] <ioioioioiiiio> hi, will kubuntu gutsy have kde 4?
[03:55] <Lopin> Okay...  I'm trying to boot a cd version, off of my hard disk, and it's hanging, and doing some odd things...
[03:55] <MVBox2> i donno but i don't care about GUI so that why i'm asking how it's don using CLI :)
[03:55] <stdin> ioioioioiiiio: no, not by default
[03:56] <stdin> MVBox2: like robotgeek said, the file is in /etc/network/interfaces if you are NOT using knetworkmanager
[03:56] <elite101> hello
[03:56] <Sergiu1> hi
[03:56] <elite101> hey lol
[03:56] <Sergiu1> :)
[03:56] <robotgeek> MVBox2: "man 5 interfaces" is also useful
[03:57] <Lopin> Anyone know how to use a kernel off of a cd, on a hard disk, and how I put it in grub to get it working right...
[03:57] <elite101> uhhh i cant get why i install from the livecd that when im running it off the HDD it doesnt show the install option?
[03:57] <elite101> :P jk
[03:57] <elite101> obv
[03:58] <elite101> but my "ath" pci wireless card does not work in kubuntu when installed on the HD? only on the livecd? why is this?
[03:58] <Lopin> Is anyone listening?
[03:58] <Lopin> To any of us?...
[03:58] <robotgeek> sure we are
[03:58] <Sergiu1> elite101: maybe you need to configure it?
[03:59] <Sergiu1> :D
[03:59] <Lopin> Okay...  Can anyone help me with configuring my kernel so it doesn't get stuck in a loop...
[03:59] <elite101> i know that
[03:59] <Sergiu1> :)
[03:59] <Aondo> Sergiu1  it's you? :D
[03:59] <elite101> but its not showing up in the network option
[03:59] <elite101> its shows ETH
[03:59] <Sergiu1> Aondo: yea :)
[03:59] <elite101> but not ath
[04:00] <robotgeek> Lopin: you would need to put entries in /boot , add entries in menu.lst (for grub) and put modules in the correct places
[04:00] <Aondo> :P
[04:00] <robotgeek> Lopin: plus, i am not sure if that would even work
[04:01] <Lopin> I'm just to the point where I'm trying to figure out what options to send to the kernel...  It's locking up after a momment, talking about starting kjournaled, and trying to mount the floppy as an ext3 file system...
[04:01] <Lopin> And, it'll just sit there and read the floppy forever if I'd let it...
[04:02] <ioioioioiiiio> just read the ars technica review of it and it looked really cool
[04:02] <Lopin> I have the contents of the kubuntu live disk in a folder called kubuntu on my hd...  I have an entry in the grub list pointing to the vmlinuz, and initrd.gz in the casper folder...
[04:02] <ioioioioiiiio> how stable is the current gutsy kubuntu
[04:03] <Biovore> it isn't yet..
[04:03] <stdin> ioioioioiiiio: it's a development version, it's stability changes, but the place to ask is #ubuntu+1
[04:04] <specialbuddy> how do I find a file with beagle
[04:05] <specialbuddy> I can't find anything
[04:06] <malcolmb> Do you have the beagled service running?
[04:06] <specialbuddy> I think so
[04:06] <specialbuddy> yeah it's started
[04:06] <specialbuddy> and I downloaded Kerry
[04:08] <Lopin> What does the preseed file do?
[04:09] <Lopin> Okay...  I'll be back...  I'm gonna try this again...
[04:10] <Lopin> root (hd0,0)
[04:10] <Lopin> kernel (hd0,0)/kubuntu/casper/vmlinuz append file=(hd0,0)/kubuntu/preseed/kubuntu.seed  boot=(hd0,0)/kubuntu/casper initrd=(hd0,0)kubuntu/casper/initrd.gz root=(hd0,0) rw --
[04:10] <Lopin> initrd (hd0,0)/kubuntu/casper/initrd.gz
[04:10] <Lopin> boot
[04:10] <specialbuddy> does it take a long time to index everything with beagle
[04:10] <specialbuddy> because I'm not finding much
[04:13] <tank> does anyone happen to know the location that TCL installs when you apt-get tcl8.4
[04:14] <Littleboots> tank: have you tried "whereis TCL"
[04:14] <tank> no brb thanks
[04:15] <tank> tank@Server:~$ whereis TCL
[04:15] <tank> TCL:
[04:15] <Littleboots> =(
[04:15] <tank> nothing?
[04:15] <stdin> tank: dpkg -L tcl8.4
[04:16] <tank> hmm that seems to have worked
[04:16] <tank> thanks
[04:16] <Littleboots> whereis worked too, just needed to lowercase the tcl =/
[04:17] <sparr> I --force'd a package to install despite broken dependencies.  How can I tell apt to ignore those broken dependencies as I do other things?
[04:17] <tank> ahh I see thanks Littleboots
[04:17] <mimik> i have a second hard drive i mounted, it keeps crashing every time i access data from it
[04:18] <mimik> what's wrong?
[04:19] <fester> I have samba and nfs. My object files are set for sharing. How do I make these  shared files available on my local network?
[04:23] <tank> ok...so if a program says my tcl version is way to old and apt-get upgrade doesnt work should I download it from the website and do what?
[04:23] <tank> sorry bad question I know
[04:24] <stdin> what program??
[04:25] <miles> is Biovre in here?
[04:26] <elite101> nope?
[04:26] <miles> o
[04:26] <elite101> well he is but
[04:26] <elite101> not responding
[04:26] <elite101> lol
[04:26] <elite101> ;)
[04:26] <elite101> u mean Xchat
[04:26] <elite101> im using Konversation?
[04:26] <miles> is that what it is called?
[04:27] <elite101> why not u that
[04:27] <elite101> use*
[04:27] <stdin> miles: use tab
[04:27] <tank> I'm trying to install an eggdrop bot on a server
[04:27] <elite101> are u running kubuntu?
[04:27] <miles> ooooooo thanks
[04:27] <tank> yes
[04:27] <miles> ya
[04:27] <elite101> lol
[04:27] <elite101> well its good i guess looks way better than Xchat
[04:28] <miles> so anyways, does anyone here program in C?
[04:28] <miles> or c++?
[04:28] <elite101> yeah biovore does
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> Python....
[04:28] <elite101> :P
[04:28] <stdin> but that's -ot
[04:28] <ardchoille> stdin: I'm sorry ;)
[04:28] <miles> people at work were clownin me today because i am studying C
[04:29] <miles> but im the only true linux user there...they just dont get it
[04:29] <ioioioioiiiio> eew c++ :(
[04:29] <elite101> whats wrong with C++?
[04:29] <miles> yea or C?
[04:29] <stdin> C++ is better than C, just look at it's name
[04:29] <elite101> lol
[04:29] <elite101> lol haha
[04:29] <miles> yea, im studying C as a precursor to C++
[04:30] <miles> since C++ is pretty much C OOP
[04:30] <elite101> well if study instead of being a A student why not a A++
[04:30] <miles> pun?
[04:30] <elite101> lol yeah
[04:30] <ioioioioiiiio> interpreted languages are vastly quicker and easier to program in, and produce less bugs usually
[04:30] <elite101> :P a very bad one
[04:30] <elite101> i meant to say
[04:30] <miles> haha
[04:30] <stdin> ioioioioiiiio: and have a ton of overhead/bloat
[04:30] <navets> how do you create a gradient with gimp
[04:31] <elite101> If u study and become good u can be a A student or even a A++ student
[04:31] <jmancine> bcm43xx
[04:31] <elite101> ;)
[04:31] <miles> C has given me nothing but a greater understanding of programming in general
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> ioioioioiiiio: faster? haha yeah right.I like python and all, but you are WRONG
[04:31] <ioioioioiiiio> well some are getting much better, haskell for instance
[04:31] <elite101> whats python?
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> elite101: programming language
[04:31] <elite101> a programing program?
[04:31] <elite101> ic
[04:31] <ioioioioiiiio> nosrednaekim, quicker to PROGRAM in
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> oh, yeah, I agree with you there
[04:31] <elite101> any one here heard of DEFCON15?
[04:32] <elite101> ;) its may favv. thing
[04:32] <miles> elite101: ya
[04:32] <elite101> i wish i can go there thou
[04:32] <stdin> erm, this is too offtopic
[04:32] <elite101> sorry
[04:32] <miles> if you go there, the feds track u
[04:32] <elite101> lol
[04:32] <ioioioioiiiio> c is awesome for things like the kernel, graphics, etc
[04:32] <stdin> continue it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:32] <elite101> okay
[04:32] <miles> they might be trackin me right now
[04:33] <elite101> ;)
[04:33] <miles> uh oh
[04:33] <jmancine> i cant get wireless on kubuntu, i dont know how to install the driver,anyone know?
[04:33] <miles> C helped me understand what "System.exit(0)" does in java
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> jmancine: sure.... what chipset do you have?
[04:34] <stdin> jmancine: you need the bcm43xx-fwcutter package
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> jmancine: are you on wired riht now?
[04:34] <Sergiu1> KDE4 will not be in the next realize of kubuntu ?
[04:34] <Sergiu1> )
[04:34] <miles> sergiul, no it will not
[04:34] <jmancine> its installed through adept
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> Sergiu1: nope
[04:35] <miles> admiral ackbar says, "its a trap!"
[04:35] <Sergiu1> miles: why so
[04:35] <ioioioioiiiio> does kubuntu come with the same drivers etc as ubuntu?
[04:35] <jmancine> yes im on wired
[04:35] <elite101> lol i still got KDE 3.5.2
[04:35] <stdin> jmancine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29
[04:35] <stdin> Sergiu1: no
[04:36] <stdin> Sergiu1: kde4 won't be ready for 1
[04:36] <Sergiu1> ioioioioiiiio: yes
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> ioioioioiiiio: yes
[04:36] <miles> sergiul: why so what?
[04:36] <miles> admiral ackbar or kde4?
[04:37] <Sergiu1> miles: kde4 won't be read for 1
[04:37] <Sergiu1> now i it's clear
[04:37] <miles> o, sorry, i was googling for a pic of admiral ackbar saying "its a trap!"
[04:37] <elite101> who program's for kubuntu distro? any of u ppl in here?
[04:37] <elite101> can u put my name in the start up? lol :P
[04:37] <stdin> elite101: no
[04:37] <elite101> Welcome to ELITE101 KDE4
[04:37] <elite101> :P
[04:37] <elite101> jk
[04:38] <ardchoille> Does the flash plugin not owrk on some sites?
[04:38] <elite101> ohh
[04:38] <elite101> well who does program for kubuntu?
[04:38] <stdin> ardchoille: the flash plugin version 9 should work
[04:39] <elite101> u guys are rele smart? i bet u program things after but i mean like acutally be apart of the team :)
[04:39] <ardchoille> stdin: It doesn't seem to work on sopme sites, have a look at http://www.johnnycash.com/  it asks me to download and install it
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> elite101: lots of people, why?
[04:39] <elite101> ohh well none of uguys?
[04:39] <miles> elite101, kubuntu.org has the developers names on it
[04:39] <elite101> i was wondering since its free and all do they get paid? or is it something they do for other ppl
[04:39] <miles> the main ones
[04:40] <elite101> ic
[04:40] <stdin> ardchoille: works fine, just click on that guys face :p
[04:40] <stdin> elite101: that don't get paid
[04:40] <Sergiu1> ardchoille: works fine
[04:40] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[04:40] <elite101> they* or that*?
[04:40] <stdin> elite101: *they don't get paid
[04:41] <elite101> ic
[04:41] <elite101> well who funds the kubuntu and the livecd shipment? i would really like to get Xubuntu...if its any good?
[04:41] <elite101> last question^ ;)
[04:41] <stdin> !offtopic | elite101, unless it's a support questuon, ask it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:41] <ubotu> elite101, unless it's a support questuon, ask it in #kubuntu-offtopic: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:52] <holycow> lets see how clever you are now
[04:52] <holycow> -_-
[04:53] <holycow> appearently not very
[04:53] <holycow> >_>
[04:53] <miles> i dont get it
[04:53] <holycow> i kid i kid
[04:53] <miles> can u explain it at least?
[04:53] <holycow> which part
[04:53] <holycow> the part about where you aren't clever
[04:53] <holycow> or
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> !offtopic
[04:54] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:54] <holycow> the part where you are copying from bash.org?
[04:54] <holycow> :)
[04:54] <atrocity> is there a reason my sound sounds...crappy...in linux but crisp in windows?
[04:54] <miles> o.....
[04:54] <holycow> i'm buggin ya miles :)
[04:54] <holycow> no biggie, post away
[04:54] <holycow> spend some time on it, its a fun site :)
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> atrocity: do you have an HD audio card?
[04:55] <master_> nick Uli
[04:55] <atrocity> no
[04:55] <miles> i am using a cli irc client, and my shell is bash, i was wondering how you knew that?
[04:55] <atrocity> it sounds like it's getting bass'ed out or something
[04:55] <elite101> anyone here using a USB DOGGLE that worked rite off the bat and is very cheap?
[04:55] <elite101> if so what is the brand and model #
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> atrocity: what are you using to play the audio with?
[04:56] <atrocity> flash player in a browser and xmms
[04:56] <atrocity> both sound the same
[04:56] <master_> i'm spanish, i have a problem. I stole menu bar in kopete. How i can add? thanks
[04:56] <master_> nickname ulises
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> atrocity: hmm, ok. if you use amarok, you can modify the equalizer to get rid of bass. but for flash..IDK
[04:56] <stdin> master_: Ctrl-M (and there is a #kubuntu-es)
[04:56] <master_> thanks
[04:57] <elite101> ^^^
[04:57] <pepe_> kubuntu.es is fall
[04:57] <atrocity> yeah
[04:57] <atrocity> the bass is all the way down
[04:57] <atrocity> but it's like..muffled
[04:57] <elite101> anyone here using a USB DOGGLE that worked rite off the bat and is very cheap?
[04:57] <atrocity> like in a shitty sound system when bass cracks because the speakers are too loud
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> atrocity: hmmm.... yeah....
[04:57] <stdin> !language
[04:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:58] <atrocity> eep, sorry
[04:58] <stdin> pepe_: #kubuntu-es not #kubuntu.es
[04:58] <Sergiu1> hey
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> atrocity: I've never debugged audio quality before ;) maybe go over to #alsa
[04:59] <elite101> well then does anyone have a USB doggle that worked without using any ndiswrapper or something?
[04:59] <master_> how change my nickname?
[05:00] <dom> elite101,  any of them.  i've used "Sandisk Cruzer", "Lexar Jumpdrive", etc
[05:00] <elite101> what?
[05:00] <atrocity> kk, thanks :)
[05:00] <elite101> lol SD makes an wi-fi doggle?
[05:00] <elite101> :s
[05:00] <nosrednaekim> I think he means a wifi dongle
[05:00] <elite101> yeah sorry
[05:00] <elite101> i should of said that
[05:01] <elite101> but is anyone useing a USB WIFI Doggle rite now that didnt have to go threw anything like ndiswrapper?
[05:02] <elite101> im a person who cant use ndiswrapper because it doesnt like me. and i dont like it and in my world everything is click-boom and it works :)
[05:04] <moody> moody@moody:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:04] <moody> sudo: gedit: command not found
[05:04] <moody> moody@moody:~$
[05:04] <moody> whatthefak ?
[05:04] <holycow> install gedit
[05:04] <holycow> then do gksudo gedit instead
[05:04] <moody> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee aha
[05:04] <holycow> don't use sudo with gui apps
[05:05] <stdin> moody: no, use kdesu kate
[05:05] <moody> can i replace the gedit with kate ?
[05:05] <atrocity> lol, why not?
[05:05] <stdin> yes
[05:05] <stdin> !kdesu | atrocity
[05:05] <ubotu> atrocity: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:05] <holycow> you aren't replacing anything
[05:05] <holycow> your just installing another text editor
[05:05] <moody> so ...
[05:05] <moody> moody@moody:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:05] <moody> sudo: gedit: command not found
[05:05] <moody> moody@moody:~$
[05:05] <moody> so ....
[05:05] <moody> moody@moody:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:05] <moody> sudo: gedit: command not found
[05:05] <moody> moody@moody:~$
[05:05] <stdin> !paste | moody
[05:05] <ubotu> moody: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:05] <moody> fakk
[05:05] <moody> sorry guys
[05:05] <holycow> just remember for gnome apps you use gksudo, for kde apps you use kdesu
[05:05] <atrocity> ubotu: eep, kk, lol
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eep, kk, lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <atrocity> i'll have to remember to stop doing that then
[05:06] <stdin> moody: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:07] <atrocity> ...did i just talk to a bot?
[05:07] <Sergiu1> atrocity: you did
[05:07] <ardchoille> atrocity: Yes
[05:07] <atrocity> :D
[05:07] <Sergiu1> :D
[05:07] <Sergiu1> ups
[05:07] <moody> thx
[05:07] <Sergiu1> sorry for offtopic
[05:07] <ardchoille> moody: Don't use sudo for gui apps, use kdesu or gksudo
[05:08] <ardchoille> !gksudo
[05:08] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[05:08] <Sergiu1> i forget that this is kubuntu official support channel
[05:08] <stdin> Sergiu1: just look at the /topic
[05:08] <Sergiu1> stdin :P
[05:08] <Sergiu1> ok, sorry again
[05:09] <nosrednaekim> actuallly, you use gksudo while in gnome,and kdesu while in kde
[05:09] <holycow> not entirely correct
[05:10] <holycow> you use gksudo FOR gnome apps and kdesu FOR kde apps
[05:10] <elite101> im a person who cant use ndiswrapper because it doesnt like me. and i dont like it and in my world everything is click-boom and it works :)
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> really? kdesu synaptic works fine
[05:10] <holycow> you can run anyone one you want at any tim ehowever, regardless of environment
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> ah..ok
[05:10] <holycow> so does sudo synaptic
[05:10] <holycow> lol :)
[05:11] <ardchoille> holycow: Actually, I just use kdesu for all gui admin tasks in kde
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> well yeah...
[05:11] <elite101> everytime i use my microwave my dog barks and the tv burns out? someone said its because i didnt port-forward
[05:11] <elite101> is this so?
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> !offtopic
[05:11] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:12] <stdin> elite101: again, that's ok in -offtopic, but not here
[05:12] <elite101> sorry lol
[05:12] <elite101> its was a funny but i do have a prob
[05:12] <moody> i'm installed drivers for graphic card , should i reboot for use it ?
[05:12] <elite101> my wireless
[05:12] <stdin> moody: just restart X
[05:12] <moody> ok
[05:12] <elite101> crtl alt backspace?
[05:13] <moody> how to restart x with command ?
[05:13] <stdin> moody: logout, and press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[05:13] <moody> ok
[05:13] <stdin> you'll want to logout first
[05:13] <ardchoille> moody: logout, then:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:14] <nosrednaekim> or log out-> sessions menu->restart x server
[05:14] <stdin> almost the same as logout and c-a-bs
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> yeah, but I hread once that ctrl+alt+bkspce did n't restart SOMETHING. I forget what...
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> *heard
[05:15] <Littleboots> x
[05:15] <Littleboots> it restarts x
[05:15] <stdin> it restarts KDM, all KDM does is start X
[05:16] <stdin> once X exit's KDM just restarts it
[05:16] <nosrednaekim> ahh... i'm tired..... c ya'll
[05:16] <nosrednaekim> :)
[05:16] <stdin> tired? ha, it's 4:16am here
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> you POOR creature.
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> 11 pm here
[05:17] <stdin> I'll just connect a coffee IV tomorrow
[05:18] <Sergiu1> :)
[05:19] <ubuntu__> hello
[05:19] <moody> #ubuntu-pl ?
[05:19] <Wiggles> ?
[05:19] <moody> ok it's on :P
[05:19] <moody> i try to connect :P
[05:19] <moody> and it's ok
[05:19] <Wiggles> I have a problem
[05:20] <stdin> if you don't ask no one can answer
[05:20] <Wiggles> does anyone know how I can move files from a Vista installation on to my usb drive via a live cd?
[05:21] <stdin> mount the ntfs partition and copy over
[05:21] <Wiggles> i'm not sure what you mean
[05:21] <Wiggles> i'm new to linux altogether
[05:21] <Sergiu1> does he know hot to mount the ntfs parition ?>L)
[05:21] <stdin> !ntfs
[05:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:22] <miles> Wiggles: admiral ackbar says "its a trap!!1"
[05:22] <stdin> Wiggles: that link tells you how to
[05:25] <banjooie> Okay, so, I'm running a program that hasn't been updated for some time. Like, a couple years
[05:25] <banjooie> Or, rather, trying to install it. It's asking for 'xlib6g'
[05:25] <banjooie> If I'm to understand, this no longer exists. What do I do?
[05:25] <moody> sudo gedit in kde i can replace with ?
[05:25] <banjooie> I use nano.
[05:25] <moody> kdesu kate ?
[05:25] <stdin> moody: kdesu kate
[05:26] <banjooie> So, since xlib6g has been removed entirely, is there anything I can do to get this program to work?
[05:27] <moody> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[05:27] <banjooie> Ooh, the 'KDE thinks you have a tablet' problem
[05:27] <stdin> moody: ignore that
[05:27] <stdin> banjooie: only if you find an old source package for it and compile it
[05:28] <banjooie> ...So if I compile it from source, it won't need it
[05:28] <stdin> banjooie: and it's nothing to do with KDE
[05:28] <banjooie> No, I mean the bad device thing was KDe.
[05:28] <banjooie> Not the xlib thing, it's obviously a debian thing from my attempts at googling.
[05:28] <stdin> banjooie: no, if you compile that xlib6g thing from source
[05:29] <banjooie> The problem here is: I cannot /find/ xlib6g. I am to understand it conflicts with some other thing which is why it was removed.
[05:29] <stdin> banjooie: no, the bad device error is nothing to do with KDE
[05:29] <banjooie> Well, the xorg.conf thing.
[05:29] <stdin> you're kinda stuck then
[05:29] <banjooie> argh.
[05:32] <Wiggles> Ahhh, Thanks everyone!  (sorry for late reply, I was afk)
[05:33] <jhutchins> !bad device
[05:33] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:34] <banjooie> Okay, another question, then. Maybe I'll be lucky this time.
[05:34] <banjooie> How do I make Print Screen stop opening ksnapshot?
[05:34] <banjooie> !ksnapshot
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksnapshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <jhutchins> !info ksnapshot
[05:34] <ubotu> ksnapshot: screenshot utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 172 kB, installed size 432 kB
[05:34] <jhutchins> banjooie: Your answer lies either in a local man ksnapshot, /usr/share/docs,  or the help within ksnapshot.
[05:35] <jhutchins> banjooie: Or you could just uninstall the dang thing.  I got a new keyboard and I end up with about six per day.
[05:35] <elite101> hey is there a screen capture program for kubuntu instead of using Hypercam2 like an open-source free on that doesnt have to be paid for?
[05:35] <elite101> lol @ jhutchines
[05:35] <jhutchins> >ZOT<
[05:35] <jhutchins> elite101: ksnapshot
[05:36] <elite101> no its doesnt make movies
[05:36] <jhutchins> By default, bound to the printscreen key.
[05:36] <elite101> i mean record the whole screen and what i do
[05:36] <jhutchins> Hrmn.  Yes, but I don't know what it's called.
[05:36] <elite101> lol hold down the printscreen button and then it will record 30 pics per secound ;)
[05:36] <banjooie> Well, see, I /have/ uninstalled it.
[05:36] <banjooie> I've tried that.
[05:36] <elite101> :P
[05:36] <elite101> lmao
[05:36] <banjooie> All that does is make it so when you hit ksnapshot
[05:36] <elite101> does it work
[05:36] <banjooie> It gives an error message, 'can't find ksnapshot'
[05:36] <banjooie> this is equally as irritating
[05:37] <jhutchins> HAH!
[05:37] <elite101> lol 30gb been wasted on that snap shot thing i had the button stuck came back i was 2gb short of 500gb :P
[05:37] <jhutchins> Gonna have to go into kcontrol and fix keyboard shortcuts.
[05:37] <elite101> lol jk
[05:37] <banjooie> And I've googled it to no end
[05:37] <banjooie> all I see is 'We should make print screen start ksnapshot'
[05:37] <banjooie> It's like the very idea of not wanting this to occur is so baffling as to destroy /minds/.
[05:37] <elite101> lol hypercam2.exe works good with wine and records in .avi
[05:37] <stdin> elite101: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts
[05:38] <erenko> n.a.
[05:39] <elite101> thanx stdin,
[05:39] <banjooie> What the
[05:39] <banjooie> why the sweet hell was it under /regional and accessibility/.
[05:39] <elite101> !laguage
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laguage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <elite101> lol
[05:39] <elite101> i suck
[05:39] <banjooie> YAY
[05:39] <elite101> !language
[05:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:39] <elite101> :P
[05:39] <elite101> !anything
[05:39] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[05:39] <elite101> :P
[05:40] <banjooie> !everything
[05:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:40] <banjooie> !nothing
[05:40] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[05:40] <stdin> !botabuse | elite101, banjooie
[05:40] <ubotu> elite101, banjooie: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:40] <elite101> sorry
[05:40] <banjooie> D:
[05:40] <miles> pwn
[05:40] <elite101> by the bot"
[05:40] <miles> u scared him
[05:40] <elite101> night
[05:40] <elite101> i gotta go go go
[05:41] <miles> go where?
[05:41] <elite101> lol to bed bed bed
[05:41] <elite101> good night all
[05:41] <elite101> nighty night
[05:41] <stdin> I was hoping you'd say "to pee pee pee"
[05:42] <miles> how do you get rid of the bouncy icons in kde?
[05:42] <miles> i hate them!
[05:42] <holycow> install gnome
[05:42] <holycow> *cough*
[05:42] <stdin> turn off launch feedback
[05:42] <holycow> i'm kidden
[05:42] <ubuntu_> hey people
[05:43] <miles> kde > gnome last time i checked
[05:43] <zimmo> is there any way of letting my cd-driver working normal?
[05:43] <miles> cli > kde > xfce > gnome
[05:43] <zimmo> it can bear the whole install
[05:43] <zimmo> it can not bear the whole install time... the cd-drive fails!
[05:44] <gost87> who this?
[05:44] <gost87> bay
[05:50] <jhutchins> miles: xfce > kde for certan cases.
[05:50] <ubuntu_> hello its rele elite101 i have to keep IRC chat open because ppl constantly chat and it wont dis connect me off the wireless since im on the live cd too
[05:51] <juancamilo> hi all
[05:51] <juancamilo> i need help burning a cd, Im using k3b
[05:52] <miles> jhutchins, xfce > kde on my work laptop
[05:52] <elite101> wow livecd runs faster than windows
[05:52] <elite101> :P
[05:52] <miles> kde > xfce on my pc at home (using right now)
[05:53] <jhutchins> Yeah, since about 2003 Linux GUI has surpassed windows.
[05:53] <elite101> :P
[05:53] <juancamilo> I want to burn an .iso image on a cd with k3b and it says "Cdreocrd has no permission to open the devie"
[05:53] <juancamilo> anyone?
[05:53] <jhutchins> juancamilo: Tell us the problem is.  Do not tell us what doesn't happen, tell us what does happen and what you thing should happen instead.
[05:54] <elite101> think*
[05:54] <miles> juancamilo: i would open up konsole, type "sudo k3b" and then try
[05:54] <jhutchins> juancamilo: Ok, that's good.
[05:54] <elite101> tell us what the problem is *
[05:54] <stdin> make sure you're in the cdrom group
[05:54] <elite101> lol u sayed thing? the letter G is not even by the letter K
[05:54] <jhutchins> actually, under k3b's options should be a k3b setup that sets things to run with the correct permissions.
[05:54] <elite101> :P
[05:55] <juancamilo> thanks let me try that
[05:56] <stdin> miles: if you did sudo k3b, you'd be wrong
[05:56] <miles> just a guess
[05:56] <stdin> !kdesu | miles
[05:56] <ubotu> miles: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:56] <miles> whenever i get an error about permission, i try same operation under sudo
[05:56] <miles> o
[05:56] <miles> see i didnt know that
[05:56] <miles> but that sure does help
[05:56] <jhutchins> Yeah, I'm must be nodding off, kdesu k3b at best.
[05:57] <jhutchins> miles: You can end up pretty much having to reinstall from running certain stuff as sudo instead of kdesu.
[05:57] <stdin> or just deleting your $HOME
[05:58] <miles> where is kdesu?
[05:58] <miles> do i need to apt-get?
[05:58] <stdin> miles: read what ubotu said
[05:58] <jhutchins> There is definitely something not working with the ubuntu scheme to force sudo on people.  We end up with a LOT of people running way too much stuff under sudo.
[05:58] <stdin> jhutchins: better than having them login as root
[05:58] <nomad111> in ubuntu my external NTFS hard drive used to auto mount when plugged in how can i make this happen in kubuntu? is there a way that does not involve editing /etc/fstab?
[05:59] <jhutchins> I guesss part of it is the Windows mentality where sooner or later you give up and run everything with admin privileges.
[05:59] <jhutchins> stdin: Yeah, well some of the just unlock root and start running that way full time.
[05:59] <nomad111> it doesnt auto mount
[05:59] <miles> stdin: i read it twice, i dont get it
[05:59] <nomad111> and i have to run mount command every time
[05:59] <nomad111> which is getting annoying
[05:59] <jhutchins> nomad111: Why wouldn't you want to edit fstab?
[06:00] <jhutchins> nomad111: I don't think that's the soluition here, but why?
[06:00] <nomad111> well did ubuntu do that behind the seens?
[06:00] <stdin> miles: "use  kdesu  to run graphical applications", apt-get is not a graphical application
[06:00] <nomad111> because it worked in ubuntu
[06:00] <miles> no no, i mean, i cant find kdesu, should i DL it via apt-get?
[06:00] <nomad111> i dont want to go in and play around with files when there may be a simpler solution
[06:00] <miles> or is it installed by default?
[06:00] <jhutchins> nomad111: Ah, so you don't want to change a fundimental part of the system...
[06:00] <nomad111> miles: its installed by default
[06:00] <stdin> miles: kdesu is installed with kubuntu
[06:00] <nomad111> jhutchins: precisely!
[06:00] <jhutchins> nomad111: dude, playin' around with conf files is what linux is all about!
[06:01] <Wiggles> How can I directly delete files without moving them to trash?
[06:01] <jhutchins> nomad111: Keep backups, and hack on!
[06:01] <stdin> Wiggles: hold down shift
[06:01] <enzo_> What is the install for vmware-workstation?
[06:01] <nomad111> ye but it will give me an error (although not catastrophic) every startup if the drive is not plugged in
[06:01] <Wiggles> thanks again
[06:01] <jhutchins> nomad111: Ok, the problem is that those very system fundamentals are being moved into being handled by the gui (which is WRONG).
[06:01] <stdin> enzo_: you go to vmware.com, download it and install it
[06:01] <enzo_> stdin: Isn't it in the repos?
[06:02] <jhutchins> nomad111: Anyway, it has to do with the way that the system handles detecting the device, and i will leave you to soberer, better rested heads than mine.
[06:02] <stdin> enzo_: no, it would be illegal. vmware-player is in the repos, not vmware-workstation
[06:02] <enzo_> Hmm
[06:02] <enzo_> Ok
[06:02] <nomad111> jhutchins: you're more enthusiastic than me when it comes to play around in the OS
[06:02] <enzo_> Thank you stdin
[06:02] <nomad111> jhutchins: hehe im a noob at that stuff
[06:03] <jhutchins> nomad111: Exerience is proportional to data destroyed - go out there and get some!
[06:03] <greywolf> hmm
[06:04] <nomad111> jhutchins: im currently doing a subject at university that involves playing around with an operating system
[06:04] <greywolf> I want to install libgtk2.0-dev, but it says that it's conflicting with libgtk1.3-dev...
[06:04] <nomad111> have to put uCLinux on a microchip and write a program to run on it
[06:04] <jhutchins> Hm.  Significant atmospheric phenomena here, i think we'll go listen-only for a while
[06:04] <greywolf> but I just did sudo apt-get remove libgtk1.3-dev and adept still thinks the package is going to break
[06:05] <miles> ok
[06:05] <greywolf> and libgtk1.3 isn't even showing up in adept at all :\
[06:06] <juancamilo> so i try that way but it didn't work propertly, first time I got an "input/output error. Not necessarily serious." at 5% and k3b recomended to use tao to solve the problem, but i got the same result...??
[06:06] <greywolf> any ideas on what's going on?
[06:07] <juancamilo> this is the first time i try this on kubuntu and i don't know what to do next? anyone?
[06:08] <underdog5004> juancamilo, try ignoring it the error
[06:08] <yukino> hola
[06:08] <underdog5004> or try popping in another burner...maybe you have a bad one
[06:08] <yukino> alguien sabe como instalar
[06:08] <underdog5004> !es | yukino
[06:08] <ubotu> yukino: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:09] <juancamilo> ?? how? there is no option to do that...
[06:12] <titanix88> hello?
[06:16] <edoba> hola
[06:16] <se7en^Of^9> what do i do if i have unmet dependencis
[06:16] <titanix88> everyone silent?
[06:16] <se7en^Of^9> python-qt3: Depends: python-sip4 (>= 4.7) but 4.6-1ubuntu3 is installed
[06:18] <titanix88> se7 it should not happen when installing from repo
[06:18] <titanix88> se7 it should not happen when installing from repo
[06:19] <moody> anybody here smoke ?
[06:19] <moody> now
[06:19] <titanix88> moody i hate.
[06:19] <se7en^Of^9> titanix88: i know but it did any idea how to fix it
[06:20] <vzduch> se7en^Of^9: you're probably not installing from a repo, my (installed) python-qt3 shows python-sip4 4.5 as a dependency
[06:21] <moody> i smoke from four months , it's stupid bleeee
[06:21] <titanix88> se7 sudo apt-get install -f
[06:21] <moody> i begin because a girl :P:P:P
[06:21] <moody> so anyone is smoking now ?
[06:21] <miles> titanix88: what does the -f param do?
[06:21] <moody> i don';t like to smoke alone :P
[06:22] <se7en^Of^9> i have done apt-get -f install and fix-missing doesn't work
[06:22] <titanix88> miles fixes broken dependencies
[06:22] <miles> ok thx
[06:24] <titanix88> moody rejected by a girl?i remember myself being a linux geek for same reason.:)
[06:24] <titanix88> se7 trying from a repo?
[06:24] <titanix88> se7 trying from a repo?
[06:25] <moody> titanix88:  great lolc :D
[06:25] <moody> ok , where is flame , there is - cheers :C
[06:26] <TooEarly> jhutchins: are you around?
[06:27] <TooEarly> or does anyone in here use tovid GUI? or another dvd video burning program
[06:29] <titanix88> se7en^of^9 trying from a repo?
[06:30] <titanix88> hi tooearly
[06:30] <TooEarly> hi titanix88
[06:31] <nagahama> hello?
[06:33] <nagahama> hello?
[06:33] <titanix88> hello!
[06:33] <nagahama> yes hi
[06:34] <nagahama> is this for ubuntu?
[06:34] <titanix88> more preciously for kubuntu
[06:34] <nagahama> hi..
[06:34] <nagahama> oh
[06:34] <nagahama> do u know
[06:34] <nagahama> the channel
[06:34] <nagahama> for ubuntu?
[06:34] <jsabo> I'm having issues with file sharing from my windows machines connecting to kubuntu.
[06:34] <nagahama> i need help installing beryl :S
[06:35] <nagahama> titanix u know any of the administrators?
[06:35] <titanix88> nagahama #ubuntu
[06:35] <miles> well if #kubuntu is the channel for kubuntu...i wonder what ubuntus irc is
[06:35] <WaltzingAlong> miles pick me!!! i know !!! #ubuntu !!
[06:35] <jsabo> it's asking for a username on my windows machince
[06:36] <jsabo> what do i put in as the user to connect to my share on kubuntu
[06:36] <WaltzingAlong> jsabo: which type of share?
[06:36] <jsabo> smb
[06:36] <titanix88> nagahama go to ubuntu forams for compiz fusion
[06:37] <bobby123> um
[06:37] <bobby123> on the net?
[06:37] <bobby123> boby = nagahama
[06:37] <WaltzingAlong> tis all on the net
[06:37] <bobby123> ok i'm very new to this lopl
[06:37] <WaltzingAlong> well or #beryl
[06:37] <vzduch> WaltzingAlong: how about #ubuntu-effects?
[06:38] <bobby123> waltiz
[06:38] <bobby123> can i ask you something
[06:38] <WaltzingAlong> yes?
[06:38] <WaltzingAlong> vzduch: or that
[06:39] <titanix88> compiz fusion is built on top of beryl and faster
[06:39] <miles> titanix88: i originally used beryl, switched to compiz could i heard they were remerging, and compiz kinda blows compared to beryl
[06:39] <miles> so i switched back
[06:39] <miles> it ran like crap for me
[06:39] <titanix88> bobby u can google to find a lot of good tuto
[06:41] <titanix88> miles compiz{shit}+beryl{juicy}=compiz fusion{great}
[06:42] <stdin> !language
[06:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:42] <miles> o.........
[06:42] <miles> i wonder, maybe i got compiz, and not compiz-fusion
[06:42] <miles> !find compiz-fusion
[06:42] <ubotu> Package/file compiz-fusion does not exist in feisty
[06:42] <titanix88> stdin sorry!!!!
[06:43] <miles> the only thing i liked about compiz that beryl didnt have was the os x show desktop
[06:44] <titanix88> miles compiz fusion actually means compiz+compiz-extra-plugins
[06:44] <miles> o.......yea, the compiz i got seemed kinda scarce
[06:45] <miles> i guess that is where the fusion comes in,no?
[06:45] <titanix88> miles yes beryl=compiz extra
[06:46] <miles> beryl still runs better than compiz tho...
[06:47] <unclephreak> whats up peoples?
[06:47] <stdin> miles: you mean #ubuntu-effects ?
[06:48] <miles> yea whatd i say?
[06:48] <miles> ive never been in there, only seen it flash by
[06:48] <titanix88> miles i have a nv mx4000 and both of them but cf seems more reliable,smooth and faster.
[06:48] <jsabo> should I do simple sharing or advance sharing?
[06:48] <miles> 7900gt <--
[06:49] <stdin> general channels are always ubuntu ones (the exceptions being #ubuntu and #ubuntu-devel)
[06:49] <unclephreak> anyone seen the new version of devede? and any bugs? (3.1)
[06:49] <TheCreationist> Anyone know how to get full ANSI support for telnet?  I've tried using the console ("telnet"), QTerm, and a few others, but none of them display properly.
[06:49] <miles> compiz seemed to look smoother as i rotated the cube...but it craps out if i got more than 2 windows open, beryl can handle more windows easily
[06:50] <robotgeek> TheCreationist: try rxvt-unicode
[06:51] <titanix88> thecreationist u mean unicode right?(cause ansi is what most app in the world supports!)
[06:51] <TheCreationist> titanix88: I just mean that when I telnet into a BBS, most of the ANSI graphics are displayed crazily.
[06:52] <TheCreationist> robotgeek: That will work with any app I use after installing that?
[06:52] <robotgeek> TheCreationist: its just a console, so i guess so
[06:53] <TheCreationist> robotgeek: Oh, okay.
[06:53] <titanix88> miles try compiz fusion. it's better.
[06:53] <TheCreationist> robotgeek: Well, that still didn't work.
[06:54] <miles> yea, im about to reformat, i guess if you install 32bit kubuntu on AMD64, you can run flash
[06:54] <miles> big mistake on my part
[06:54] <stdin> miles: you can run flash on amd64
[06:54] <robotgeek> miles: why not try gnash?
[06:54] <stdin> !flash64 | miles
[06:54] <ubotu> miles: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:56] <miles> robotgeek, i got gnash, it blows
[06:57] <titanix88> i wonder does all apps in duel core linux uses both of them simutaneously? xp can't do that
[06:57] <miles> stdin, i think read that tutorial before, im just gonna reformat...
[06:57] <stdin> miles: up to you, but that works
[06:57] <miles> i dont feel like doing a work around...64bit processors are nothin but hype anyways
[06:57] <vzduch> titanix88: well, the apps only ask the kernel for CPU resources, it's the kernel that distributes them
[06:57] <miles> titanix88, linux will handle as many cores as you can throw at it
[06:57] <stdin> titanix88: I'd think the kernel would decide what goes where
[06:58] <miles> i know when you compile stuff, you can specify how many cores you want to use
[06:58] <stdin> miles: you can choose how many threads, not cores
[06:59] <titanix88> that's the advantage.in xp to use duel core, the app must do it by itself.
[06:59] <miles> stdin, pretty sure you can specify number of cores
[06:59] <stdin> I doubt it
[06:59] <miles> i think its "-j <<# of cores>>"
[06:59] <stdin> miles: no, that's threads -j
[07:00] <carlos> Alguin sabe como se llama el .iso en donde estan los paquetes de complementacion del buntu 7.04
[07:00] <unclephreak> wha?
[07:00] <unclephreak> que?
[07:01] <titanix88> miles why not use 64bit version of ubuntu?
[07:01] <miles> i am using the 64bit
[07:01] <miles> stdin, u pulled a fast one on me
[07:01] <TheCreationist> How do I enable IBM extended ASCII in telnet clients?
[07:01] <miles> linux kernel in a nutshell says "-jx" is used to make compilation multithreaded, where x = number of processors to use
[07:02] <miles> so its 1 thread/core...i guess u could say we were both right, u more so than i
[07:02] <titanix88> read man telnet
[07:02] <stdin> :)
[07:02] <miles> touchette
[07:05] <titanix88> most people of the world can not take advantages of dual core as they run xp.so sad...
[07:06] <underdog5004> vista doesn't use more than one core if the license isn't for more than one core...
[07:06] <miles> titanix88, not that im tits at computers, but most people wouldnt know what to do with more than 1 core
[07:08] <vzduch> [07:05:51]  < titanix88> most people of the world can not take advantages of dual core as they run xp.so sad...  most ppl of the world cannot take advantage of dual core as they don't have a dual core CPU ;)
[07:08] <titanix88> i know what they do.they say"i have dual core!!"
[07:08] <carlos> como puedo conseguir el resto de paquetes de ubunto que no bienen con el cd
[07:08] <robotgeek> !es
[07:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:08] <miles> !es | carlos
[07:08] <ubotu> carlos: please see above
[07:08] <carlos> ubuntu perdon
[07:08] <titanix88> vzduch lol :)
[07:08] <miles> does anyone think its funny his name is carlos and he speaks spanish?
[07:08] <unclephreak> most people dont take advantage of having a 1Ghz processor running xp
[07:08] <kalorin`> I just want to overlock my opteron
[07:09] <kalorin`> it's a wee bit overclocked now but I want to put it up like 2.66hz
[07:09] <kalorin`> ghz rather
[07:09] <kalorin`> it's not like the good ol' days anymore
[07:09] <kalorin`> too much frustration trying to oc' them
[07:10] <patrick_> hey folks. how does one enable 'show hidden files and folders' in Konq in KDE4?
[07:10] <atrocity> anybody know how to make a webpage viewed in firefox for windows look the same under linux?
[07:10] <atrocity> as in...font differences
[07:10] <atrocity> using just standard web-fonts
[07:11] <underdog5004> patrick_, View -> Hidden Files and Folders
[07:11] <stdin> don't use proprietary fonts and they'll look the same
[07:11] <patrick_> underdog5004: i don't have that option
[07:11] <patrick_> oh boy...
[07:11] <underdog5004> patrick_, h/o
[07:11] <Carnage\> Don't put any html between <body> and </body> *scnr* :)
[07:11] <Carnage\> atrocity: You may try setting the same default fonts
[07:11] <titanix88> kalorin` there is a processor freq controler in "ubuntu"
[07:12] <patrick_> underdog5004: dont see that
[07:12] <rodrigo> hi any one can help me with adept installer
[07:12] <kalorin`> atrocity: render it as a .pdf :)
[07:12] <kalorin`> titanix88?
[07:12] <atrocity> lol
[07:12] <atrocity> OK :P
[07:12] <underdog5004> patrick_, View -> Show Hidden Files
[07:12] <kalorin`> freq controller?
[07:12] <patrick_> underdog i followed the instructions on the web page to install KDE4. i rebooted
[07:12] <patrick_> it's .. missing things
[07:12] <patrick_> my konversation is missing my identity and settings
[07:13] <underdog5004> patrick_, try asking in the kde channel...kde4 is still very beta
[07:13] <patrick_> did i do something wrong perhaps?
[07:13] <patrick_> ok i think i'll go back to 3.x
[07:13] <underdog5004> you installed kde4
[07:13] <patrick_> thanks
[07:13] <underdog5004> lol
[07:13] <underdog5004> np
[07:13] <patrick_> :D
[07:13] <stdin> rodrigo: ask your question
[07:13] <titanix88> it is an applet.
[07:13] <kalorin`> oh yeah for laptops
[07:13] <kalorin`> this is a desktop
[07:13] <kalorin`> with an opteron 165
[07:13] <rodrigo> stdin: it looks that the software doesn't upload the new packages
[07:13] <stdin> titanix88: that's not for overclocking either
[07:14] <stdin> rodrigo: what do you mean?
[07:14] <kalorin`> it's stock at 1.86ghz but it will run solid at nearly 3ghz if you can get the ram and everything worked out and cooperating
[07:14] <kalorin`> but it's a ton of trial and error :(
[07:14] <rodrigo> stdin: iI fetch updates
[07:15] <titanix88> stdin apolizes for not knowing that
[07:15] <miles> !es | rodrigo
[07:15] <ubotu> rodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:15] <rodrigo> stdin: I press full upgrade
[07:15] <Scorpaen> ahhhh
[07:15] <Scorpaen> much better
[07:15] <Scorpaen> KDE4 is too beta for this patrick_
[07:15] <Scorpaen> heh
[07:15] <rodrigo> stdin: and it doesn't do anything
[07:15] <rodrigo> lol my english is so bad???
[07:16] <stdin> rodrigo: that means that there are no updates for you right now
[07:16] <kalorin`> !jive
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <stdin> rodrigo: your english is fine
[07:16] <kalorin`> ;)
[07:16] <unclephreak> are your universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[07:16] <rodrigo> stdin: ok thanks!
[07:18] <Tokal> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[07:18] <stdin> !ops | titanix88
[07:18] <ubotu> titanix88: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[07:18] <vzduch> stdin: too late :P
[07:18] <robotgeek> stdin: what?
[07:18] <underdog5004> what the heck was that?
[07:19] <underdog5004> whoa...it was a bot command...
[07:19] <underdog5004> I feel smarter already...
[07:19] <stdin> robotgeek: ug, too late, was half way between channels then
[07:19] <unclephreak> hey stdin i just got a dvd burner and converted a few avi files to dvd format and burned them.  my dvd player recognizes that it's a dvd but keeps giving the message "wrong disk" any idea of why this is oging on?
[07:19] <unclephreak> going on too
[07:20] <titanix88> stdin: my apologies isn't from fear,just genuine.
[07:21] <unclephreak> is it something with the authoring, or do i need to make a dvd menu  so my player knows where to start playing or something?
[07:21] <WaltzingAlong> ubotu: we should really change the name from factoids
[07:21] <titanix88> lol
[07:22] <vzduch> *omfg* the Pope has been nominated 'accessory wearer of the year 2007' for wearing red shoes under his garment..
[07:22] <hasan> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:22] <hasan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:22] <hasan> bot: help me
[07:22] <stdin> unclephreak: i wouldn't know, it would depend on the player
[07:22] <WaltzingAlong> ruby red, of course!
[07:22] <vzduch> !aptfix | hasan
[07:22] <ubotu> hasan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:23] <unclephreak> no worries.  i just installed devede 3.1..  im gonna give that a shot.  cos i know my dvd player plays burned dvds.  i can copy them just fine, but i think theres something going on wiht the authoring
[07:24] <WaltzingAlong> unclephreak: i have had lots of success on conversions with devede, feel free to post the results
[07:26] <unclephreak> yea, i love devede, i mean it worked awesome for making vcds and svcds just fine and they all played...  im converting a file right now, i'll let you know how it goes.  im gonna try putting in menus this time tho.  devede 3.1 has menus and a couple extras i saw
[07:29] <titanix88> oooopsss...how does it sound?:)
[07:33] <dvm> How can I enable the GTK Text Entry widget to accept Unicode Charaters?
[07:34] <titanix88> anyone there?
[07:34] <vzduch> the westher is cr*p and I gotta go.. l8ter :)
[07:35] <titanix88> dvm it does by default.
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> what is westher?
[07:36] <titanix88> ??
[07:37] <dvm> titanix88, But, i can't type in local language in gtk text entry, i can able to type other places like gedit etc.
[07:37] <titanix88> dvm are u a developer?
[07:38] <dvm> titanix88, ya
[07:39] <titanix88> outof my scope dude.consult a gtk developer manual or irc or mailing list.
[07:39] <dvm> titanix88, is their any property, i need to enable?
[07:41] <titanix88> dvm: maybe wide character support(from my little programming knowledge)
[07:42] <dvm> titanix88, I couldn't type, but, i can able to copy and paste unicode(tamil) chars
[07:43] <sirjoshimus> anyone here know how to get wine to work right on 64-bit amd?
[07:44] <stdin> sirjoshimus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64 ?
[07:45] <sirjoshimus> thanks
[07:47] <titanix88> dvm: i use bagla everywhere on my ubuntu.no problem
[07:47] <dvm> titanix88, thnx man, let me try
[07:48] <titanix88> dvm: what for:?
[07:51] <purpleposeidon> !zork
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <titanix88> dvm: i guess ur thnx means "no thnx,u already doubled my comfusion" lol :D
[08:07] <miles> ok
[08:08] <mecannotread> guys i need shockwave plugin where can i get it
[08:08] <stdin> you can't
[08:09] <mecannotread> stdin  : you meant icant get it
[08:09] <stdin> mecannotread: adobe don't make shockwave for linux
[08:09] <stdin> mecannotread: only flash
[08:10] <mecannotread> stdin: ok i want to play flashgames on the www.miniclip.com  but i need flash
[08:10] <stdin> flash you can get from the package flashplugin-nonfree, but not shockwave
[08:10] <mecannotread> stdin: is there a replacement  for that
[08:11] <mecannotread> stdin: should i do it by apt-get
[08:11] <stdin> yeah
[08:11] <stdin> it's in multiverse
[08:11] <kraut> moin
[08:11] <mecannotread> stdin ok thanks  for info...
[08:13] <hasan> hi gusy
[08:13] <hasan> how can i make stardict stay on top of other windows ?
[08:14] <stdin> hasan: right click the window title (or press Alt-F3) > advance > keep above others
[08:15] <hasan> stdin:thx
[08:19] <pierre__> anyone know of a way to make the kde clock match my taskbar_
[08:19] <pierre__> ?|
[08:29] <hasan> find /home/hasan -name star*.tar.bz2 -print
[08:30] <hasan> why that does not files starting with star and with tar.bz2 extension in my home directory ?
[08:30] <hasan> hasan@truefx:~/downloads$ find /home/hasan -name star*.tar.bz2 -print
[08:30] <hasan> find: paths must precede expression
[08:30] <hasan> Usage: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression] 
[08:30] <gsevil> after run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, my screen refresh rate only 60Hz, I restore the old xorg.conf file, but it didn't return to normal. Windows is running well
[08:32] <stdin> hasan: put it in quotes -name "star*.tar.bz2"
[08:34] <pierre__> adept broke my system
[08:34] <pierre__> :(
[08:35] <Daisuke_Ido> how so?
[08:37] <pierre__> it asked me to update and i said yes
[08:37] <pierre__> then it crashed and now i cant use apt-get
[08:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !aptfix
[08:37] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:39] <pierre__> it just spits out /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/N: failed to write cache
[08:45] <persen> Hi, just removed my soundcard and try to use my usb-soundcard instead. But the mixers (alsagui and kmix) cant find any sound devices it looks like.. The USB soundcard is recognized in "lsusb" as "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0582:0011 Roland Corp. Edirol UA-5 Sound Capture".
[08:45] <persen> Any tips on how to "enable" this soundcard? it should work out-of-the-box with the usb-snd driver i think
[08:47] <zero1328> um, does anyone here know about the kde sound system? I checked and it was called "aRTs" or something
[08:47] <underdog5004> !arts
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <underdog5004> !alsa
[08:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:48] <zero1328> um.. It's not that I have a problem with it, i'm wondering what the command is to use it from something like the terminal
[08:48] <stdin> yes , aRts the "analog real time sound" system
[08:48] <stdin> artsd
[08:48] <stdin> the arts daemon
[08:49] <zero1328> I want to play this ogg file on my gmail notification program, but I don't know what to put in
[08:49] <zero1328> aplay churns out static for an ogg, but it's fine for a wav
[08:50] <stdin> that's because aplay is for wavs
[08:50] <zero1328> I've realised that through trial and error
[08:50] <stdin> try "oggdec filename.ogg -o - | aplay - "
[08:51] <stdin> or just install sox and use "play filename.ogg"
[08:52] <zero1328> hm.. being a newb I don't understand half of the first command you gave me, but I'll try sox instead
[08:54] <persen> Doesnt XMMS support OGG ?
[08:54] <stdin> zero1328: oggdec decodes oggs to wav, "-o -" means output to "stdout" '|' is "pipe/pass the output to the next command" then "aplay -" tells aplay to read from stdin (yes, that me :) )
[08:54] <persen> or amarok
[08:54] <stdin> persen: from the command line?
[08:55] <persen> Dont think so
[08:55] <pan> Question- how do I change KDE's default filemanager to Dolphin?
[08:55] <stdin> then that's not what he wants
[08:55] <persen> ok
[08:55] <zero1328> if you look up a little, I'm trying to set my gmail notifier to play a sound, and that requires putting in a command
[08:56] <stdin> pan: (in konqueror), settings > configure konqueror > File Associations > inode > directory
[08:59] <persen> Hm, under Sound in KInfoCenter my USB sound card is listed in the "Audio devices:" section. And it is the only device that is listed.  Under "Mixers:" i see a USB Mixer listing. But i get no sound output. Anyone know of what i might do to enable this sound device ?
[09:00] <jmdwyer> evening kubuntu peeples
[09:01] <jmdwyer> evening kubuntu people
[09:01] <jmdwyer> question.....rockwell isa modem, can it be done?
[09:02] <robotgeek> jmdwyer: i would recommend you look on the wiki, i am not sure offhand
[09:02] <jmdwyer> I'm wikified
[09:02] <jmdwyer> I got a conexant to do the trick but I beat my head against rockwells for about 3 days with the wiki
[09:02] <persen> nice ! it works now.. needed to asoundconf set-default-card UA5 !
[09:03] <jmdwyer> btw fyi 233 pentium ibm thinkpad 770 running kubuntu here
[09:03] <jmdwyer> and doing fairly well
[09:04] <jmdwyer> good job persen
[09:04] <pierre__> i think adept broke my system
[09:04] <jmdwyer> no, adept did not break your system
[09:04] <pierre__> i tried to do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:04] <jmdwyer> and?
[09:04] <pierre__> ./usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache
[09:05] <jmdwyer> apt-get -f install
[09:05] <jmdwyer> maybe?
[09:05] <zero1328> thanks for the help stdin, both work equally well. hm, gotta write it down somewhere...
[09:05] <stdin> zero1328: the command line is all powerful :p
[09:05] <jmdwyer> woohoo command line is king
[09:06] <pierre__> jmdwyer: getting the same errors
[09:06] <jmdwyer> unomomento
[09:06] <pag> pierre__, which errors? (sorry, just joined)
[09:06] <jmdwyer> dernit I dont know the clear-all for dpkg right off the top of my head
[09:07] <jmdwyer> its something to the order of dpkg --clear something, someone help me I'm fuzzy
[09:07] <pierre__> pag i\ll upload it to bash... sec
[09:08] <pierre__> i mean pastebin :P
[09:08] <pierre__> http://pastebin.com/m2c0369cf
[09:08] <Daisuke_Ido> why is apt throwing out font errors?
[09:09] <pierre__> dont know, im new
[09:09] <pag> jmdwyer, sudo apt-get clean  ?
[09:09] <Daisuke_Ido> weird...
[09:09] <pierre__> maybe i need a reboot?
[09:10] <pag> pierre__, try reinstalling OOo (or just remove it, if you don't need it)
[09:10] <pierre__> ok here goes
[09:11] <ben__> hey, can someone help me? My floppy won't mount, the light glows continulously
[09:11] <pag> !floppy | ben__
[09:11] <ubotu> ben__: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[09:11] <jmdwyer> is the cable on backward ben?
[09:11] <pierre__> pag:
[09:11] <pierre__> Updating fontconfig cache...
[09:11] <pierre__> /usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache
[09:12] <jmdwyer> red line away from power on floppies
[09:12] <pag> pierre__, so still the same?
[09:12] <pierre__> pag:  yup..
[09:12] <pierre__> that horrible adept program should be removed from kubuntu
[09:12] <jmdwyer> adept is evil, use apt-get
[09:13] <pierre__> well if its in the OS it should be stable
[09:13] <pierre__> imo
[09:13] <pag> pierre__, " find /usr/share/fonts /usr/local/share/fonts /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d -type d -print0 | xargs --null touch "  (from the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/122976 I hope it also works)
[09:14] <persen> how do i check my CPU speed from the command line?
[09:14] <jbrouhard> type cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:14] <jmdwyer> pierre have you tried dpkg --clear-avail then apt-get update?
[09:15] <jmdwyer> then apt-get -f install
[09:16] <jmdwyer> ben you with us?
[09:16] <ben__> im back now sorry
[09:16] <jmdwyer> was the cable backerds?
[09:17] <ben__> I edited my /etc/fstab file and that made no difference
[09:17] <zero1328> argh, clumsy, clumsy me. I forgot to copy what stdin said, describing what that command did.. could someone copy paste that for me? I was gonna write it down
[09:17] <jmdwyer> solid light from power on till the cows come home right?
[09:18] <jmdwyer> ben?
[09:18] <ben__> no, just when i run the mount command jmdwyer
[09:18] <jmdwyer> oic
[09:19] <ben__> I type the command in (sudo mount /media/floppy0/) and command line gives no respose, it prety much freezes
[09:19] <stdin> zero1328: oggdec decodes oggs to wav, "-o -" means output to "stdout" '|' is "pipe/pass the output to the next command" then "aplay -" tells aplay to read from stdin (yes, that me :) )
[09:20] <zero1328> phew, thank you very much again
[09:20] <stdin> :)
[09:21] <jmdwyer> ben what distro?
[09:21] <ben__> kubuntu
[09:21] <ben__> 7.04
[09:21] <jmdwyer> feisty ok
[09:21] <jmdwyer> lemme see breezy had an issue
[09:21] <ben__> yea hmmm, I tryed various commands to get it to go
[09:22] <ben__> mount /dev/fp0/
[09:22] <ben__> I tells me when there is no disk in there
[09:22] <jmdwyer> "/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto,umsdos,vfat,ext2 rw,user,noauto 0 0" in the fstab?
[09:23] <ben__> no I have only been using auto
[09:24] <ben__> which should work :s but i will try your way
[09:25] <ben__> jmdwyer: unfortunatly it's still doing the same old bs
[09:27] <ben__> What would I type into terminal to get the ls -l output for the floppy?
[09:27] <ben__> cd into /media/floppy0/ then use ls -l??
[09:29] <pag> ben__, either thet or  ls -l /media/floppy0/
[09:29] <Daisuke_Ido> what's this "floppy" thing you're talking about?
[09:30] <Daisuke_Ido> do i jhave to use !language ?
[09:30] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry.  the later it gets the worse the jokes get.  i'm going to bed
[09:31] <jmdwyer> after a reboot?
[09:31] <jmdwyer> I know reboots are for windows users but.....
[09:31] <ben__> I'm trying to mount my floppy disk Dai, atmitantly only so I can install xp sata drivers on install
[09:31] <ben__> Ofcorse I won't be removing linux ;)
[09:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ben__: installing xp in vmware?
[09:32] <ben__> no on the hdd
[09:32] <jmdwyer> so you are attempting to install xp drivers in your froppy dlive?
[09:32] <ben__> I want to play games, and linux has shit games
[09:32] <jmdwyer> point
[09:32] <Daisuke_Ido> unreal tournament?
[09:32] <Daisuke_Ido> doom 3?  quake 4?  enemy territory?  MINESWEEPER?
[09:33] <ben__> Well my motherboard does not emulate IDE, and xp has no sata drivers, so I press F6 and insert a floppy before its installing
[09:33] <jloden> I had a power outage last night, and the UPS totally failed to keep my kubuntu machine from losing power and shutting down, and it seems to have royally screwed up my partitions
[09:33] <jmdwyer> what exactly do you need other than whats in the repository for quake2?
[09:33] <Daisuke_Ido> jmdwyer: the game
[09:33] <Daisuke_Ido> all the data files
[09:33] <jmdwyer> aso, I see the rub
[09:33] <jloden> I am just interested at this point in salvaging as much of my /home as I can, and I am not sure how to proceed
[09:33] <ben__> I play fear, unfortunatly cedega does not support it
[09:34] <Daisuke_Ido> just because it's not supported doesn't mean it won't run
[09:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i play S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
[09:34] <Daisuke_Ido> not supported
[09:34] <Daisuke_Ido> but it works like a charm
[09:34] <jloden> I ran fsck on the drive which took most of the entire day, then gave up on that and reinstalled kubuntu on top of the original / partition (/dev/sda1)
[09:34] <ben__> but won't performance suffer?
[09:34] <ben__> I really need high fps
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> a lot of games actually run BETTER under wine or cedega than they do in windows
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> and if not better, the performance is pretty close
[09:35] <ben__> vista or xp
[09:35] <jloden> so now I'm trying to restore any data I can from /dev/sda3 but I can't seem to mount the partition or do anything else with it...anyone have any tips or pointers?
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> because it's not an emulator
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> xp
[09:35] <ben__> cool
[09:35] <ben__> yea it's a library I know
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> jloden: can you use dd?
[09:35] <solid_liq> jloden: try to dd it,then play with the dd image
[09:36] <jloden> well, I have a full working system installed, so I have access to dd
[09:36] <ben__> Anyway looks like I'll have to use someone elses computer for floppies :p
[09:36] <jloden> but I'm not sure how I would go about copying my files off of a damaged partition using it
[09:36] <ben__> jmdwyer: Thanks for trying to help me though, I really apreciate it
[09:36] <jloden> I've only ever used dd for creating sparse files and stuff like that
[09:36] <jmdwyer> quite welcome ben
[09:37] <jmdwyer> I'm kinda new to ubuntu ben, so my help is limited but I try
[09:37] <Daisuke_Ido> can one create another partition and use dd to image the bad partition to the new one?
[09:37] <jmdwyer> been around since breezy
[09:38] <jmdwyer> can one possibly rsync the stuff out?
[09:38] <Daisuke_Ido> new != been around since the second release :D
[09:38] <jmdwyer> well....yes
[09:38] <Daisuke_Ido> i've been an on and off user since hoary
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> every six months or so i would dual boot, install ubuntu, not use it, and trash the partiton
[09:39] <jmdwyer> I went to the dark side for a while got an mcse and came back in time for dapper
[09:39] <jloden> dd's not a bad suggestion, since it can do raw copy it doesn't need to mount the drive to copy
[09:39] <jloden> I'll try googling and see what I can find
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> then edgy came out and i said to myself, "self, you're going to get rid of windows"
[09:39] <jmdwyer> google is your freyund
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> so i did.
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> that was 10 months ago
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> and i haven't looked back
[09:40] <jmdwyer> I said self, I'm going to make a living off that rotten bug ridden piece of trash called windows and populate my house with ubuntu boxes
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> jmdwyer: essentially what i did
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> except for making a living.  i have to use it for school.  in vmware.
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i won't install it on my lappy
[09:41] <jmdwyer> my lappy wont DO windows
[09:41] <jmdwyer> well 98 maybe
[09:41] <Daisuke_Ido> bought an ubuntu dell :D
[09:41] <Ayabara> does kmail have any support for microsoft exchange?
[09:41] <jmdwyer> I got a circa (note the use of the word circa here) 1997 Pentium 233 IBM Thinkpad 770
[09:41] <jmdwyer> with kubuntu full blown on it
[09:42] <Daisuke_Ido> jmdwyer: that's a hot machine :)
[09:42] <Daisuke_Ido> all i have to say is: old games :D
[09:42] <jmdwyer> 233 256 megs of ram, 20gb hdd 13.3 1024x768
[09:43] <jmdwyer> for 20 bux, it rock
[09:43] <jmdwyer> s
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> oh wow
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i'd love to get my hands on one like that
[09:43] <jmdwyer> lemme talk to my guy, he's got a pile of em
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> heh
[09:43] <jmdwyer> literally
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm off to bed now, but i'm always around
[09:43] <jmdwyer> g-nite
[09:44] <jmdwyer> I'll be on this channel more frequently now that I decided to irc again
[09:48] <saman> anybody knows how one can run 2 kde at the same time by using ctrl+alt+(one of the Fbuttons)
[09:49] <saman> ???
[09:50] <thatguy42> nope
[09:52] <jloden> saman: can you just start a new KDE session and switch between them using Switch User ?
[09:52] <DjDarkman> hy, how can I access a shared printer on the network from a windows system?
[09:53] <saman> hmm... but the thing is... I need to start the other kde with the same user...
[09:53] <saman> ... from the terminal
[09:58] <solid_liq> saman: why don't you just use xnest?
[10:04] <saman> xnest?
[10:04] <saman> whats that? is it to complicated to start kde from a terminal?
[10:04] <stdin> xnest is old, use Xepher
[10:04] <stdin> !info xserver-xepher
[10:04] <ubotu> Package xserver-xepher does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:05] <stdin> uhh
[10:05] <stdin> !info xserver-xephyr
[10:05] <ubotu> xserver-xephyr: Next Generation Nested X Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-3ubuntu8 (feisty), package size 1523 kB, installed size 3844 kB
[10:07] <harmental> hey guys...is there any way to beautify the logoff screen??
[10:07] <stdin> close your eyes and think of a meadow?
[10:19] <Assid> close your eyes and think of a meadow ?!?!?
[10:20] <stdin> it took you 12 mins to reply :p
[10:20] <Assid> i was reading the article about con leaving the kernel hackers
[10:21] <Assid> and basically how his patches helped the cpu scheduler improve for desktop users
[10:21] <persen> Who is con ?
[10:21] <stdin> well anyway, I'm not sure how to change the logoff screen, but I'd bet the #kde people do
[10:23] <llutz> persen:  Con Kolivas
[10:23] <Assid> his patches are marked as -ck
[10:28] <Assid> they shouldnt have mocked his beliefs..
[10:30] <Assid> if they atleast thought the user interface should have higher cpu schedule control.. that would make it on par with the macs
[10:31] <Assid> like if i copy a file across.. would be nice that the scheduler still gives my ui more preferances than the actual copy process.. just slow the copying instead
[10:37] <filipe_> Is there a way to change the priority with which spamassassin runs from kmail?
[10:38] <RivaeAerya> How do you give all files in a directory that don't have an extension the extension ".smc"?
[10:40] <adenicio> !python
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <stdin> RivaeAerya: erm "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.smc" "
[10:41] <RivaeAerya> stdin: quite a complicated one..
[10:41] <stdin> yeah, but it works :)
[10:41] <RivaeAerya> i'll try it
[10:42] <RivaeAerya> [10:41]  <sauvin> RivaeAerya, ls | grep -v \.smc
[10:42] <RivaeAerya> hmm
[10:42] <sauvin> I'm here, too.
[10:42] <sauvin> What's the problem?
[10:43] <RivaeAerya> [10:42]  <RivaeAerya> sauvin: how would i make it rename things?\
[10:43] <stdin> RivaeAerya: the . means the current directory, -maxdepth 1 means only in that dir (not any lower), -type f means files, "-not -name "*.smc" " means thing that aren't called *.smc
[10:43] <filipe_> stdin doesn't that just catches all the files that do not end in smc?
[10:43] <llutz> filipe_: ^^ it does
[10:43] <stdin> RivaeAerya: you can add -exec to it to make it run command
[10:43] <filipe_> but that was not the question i think
[10:43] <llutz> it will also find foo.bar, urgend.txt ...
[10:44] <stdin> filipe_: [09:38]  <RivaeAerya> How do you give all files in a directory that don't have an extension the extension ".smc"?
[10:44] <RivaeAerya> llutz: no problem, in that directory only .smc files are.
[10:44] <llutz> RivaeAerya: you are searching for files without any extension to rename them?
[10:44] <mecannotread> how do i activate the choosen theme in emeral themer
[10:44] <RivaeAerya> llutz: yes
[10:44] <filipe_> "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.*" -exec mv {} {}.smc ; i think is what you want
[10:44] <RivaeAerya> i'll try
[10:45] <filipe_> although i liked screwed up escapes and such
[10:45] <stdin> filipe_: no, that will work
[10:45] <stdin> filipe_: opps, no you need \;
[10:45] <RivaeAerya> find: ontbrekend argument van '-exec'
[10:45] <RivaeAerya> translation: "Missing parameter from -exec"
[10:45] <llutz> "find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.*" -exec mv {} {}.smc \;
[10:46] <llutz>   find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -not -name "*.*" -exec mv {} {}.smc \;
[10:46] <filipe_> yea i knew i screwed up some escaping :)
[10:46] <RivaeAerya> llutz: that works :)
[10:46] <RivaeAerya> llutz: thanks :)
[10:46] <sauvin> llutz, you've just told me I need to spend some quality time with the man pages for find.
[10:47] <RivaeAerya> yep, really worked :)
[10:47] <RivaeAerya> thanks llutz
[10:47] <llutz> RivaeAerya: thank sauvin . his cmd
[10:47] <adenicio> help!how do i get back my desktop it gone black
[10:47] <RivaeAerya> thanks sauvin
[10:47] <llutz> err filipe_:
[10:48] <llutz> <- time for a coffee
[10:48] <RivaeAerya> lol, thanks filipe_
[10:48] <sauvin> I didn't give that command. All I gave was a way for filtering out smc files in the current directory WITHOUT renaiming.
[10:49] <adenicio> help!how do i get back my desktop it gone black
[10:49] <adenicio> how do i get it back?
[10:49] <filipe_> You're welcome :). And thanks the others for the valuable \ :)
[10:49] <persen> What program do i need to check my cpu temp ?
[10:50] <filipe_> persen lmsensors
[10:50] <persen> tnx
[10:50] <stdin> there are a few, ksensors may be good (uses lmsensors)
[10:50] <dhq> which is the best typing tutor in kubuntu
[10:50] <stdin> IRC
[10:51] <stdin> you learn how to type by doing :p
[10:51] <llutz> lol
[10:51] <dhq> stdin, ???
[10:51] <dhq> stdin, no for me for my nephew
[10:52] <playa> hallo kann mir jemand helfen ???
[10:52] <stdin> dhq: I'd think the people in #edubuntu would know better than me
[10:52] <stdin> !de | playa
[10:52] <ubotu> playa: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:52] <playa> thx
[10:53] <persen> Just read the con-kernelhacker article, to my surprise the linux scheduler is not targeted for responsive desktop use. I read somewhere in 2004 that the 2.6 version of linux should do just that.
[10:55] <emilsedgh> Could someone tell me how could I enabled the other Plasmoids of the Plasma in kde4 packages of Beta 1? Currently there is jyst the Clock..., and one more thing, The ExtraGear isnt packaged?
[10:56] <dhq> emilsedgh, howz kde4 whats new
[10:57] <emilsedgh> dhq: if you want to know whats new, you should read 'Road to KDE4' articles on the dot...
[10:58] <dhq> emilsedgh, link me
[10:58] <stdin> emilsedgh: there are no other packaged plasmoids right now
[10:58] <emilsedgh> dhq: ok wait a minute
[10:58] <dhq> ok
[10:59] <emilsedgh> stdin: and Extragear isnt packaged?
[10:59] <pag> dhq, http://dot.kde.org/ ;)
[10:59] <stdin> emilsedgh: nope
[11:00] <emilsedgh> stdin: Thanks very much...
[11:00] <stdin> emilsedgh: if you want a real kde4 experience you need to be running the svn version :)
[11:00] <emilsedgh> dhq: http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/dot?as_q=Road+To+KDE4&as_epq=&as_oq=dept.&as_eq=&num=100
[11:01] <emilsedgh> stdin: yes I know, but im on a damn Dialup connection, downloading Trunk is really hard...
[11:02] <adenicio_> stdin: there a folder in my etc root but i dont have permision how to get it.do i have to admim or root? but how do i change from one to the other?
[11:02] <Martiini> hei! How can I bring up KDE "first start configuration" screen (where you can set kde performance, language, window behavior)
[11:02] <emilsedgh> dhq: thats not all, they are just some of big steps, if you want to know all, read past 2-3 years Commit-Digest's (http://commit-digest.org)
[11:02] <stdin> adenicio_: sudo is the way
[11:02] <adenicio_> stdin: there a folder in my etc root but i dont have permision to copy to it how to get it.do i have to admim or root? but how do i change from one to the other?
[11:03] <emilsedgh> mark__: run kpersonalizer
[11:03] <Martiini> emilsedgh: hei! How can I bring up KDE "first start configuration" screen (where you can set kde performance, language, window behavior)
[11:03] <stdin> emilsedgh: even if extragear was packaged, there would be no plasmoids in there :P they are all in svn right now (in the "playground")
[11:03] <pag> Martiini, install and run kpersonalizer
[11:03] <Martiini> :)
[11:03] <emilsedgh> Martiini: run kpersonalizer ..
[11:03] <Martiini> Danke
[11:03] <Martiini> thanks , bye
[11:04] <filipe_> adenicio use sudo -i to become root
[11:04] <emilsedgh> stdin: hey! I didnt download whole this only to test Plasmoids! millions of new things are here!
[11:04] <emilsedgh> stdin: I just wanted to test AmaroK, and Kaffeine, but it seems that Kaffeine4 is in playground too
[11:04] <Martiini>  .... I looked for that kpersonalizer setup window 5 hours last night :)
[11:05] <Martiini> should have come here straight :)
[11:05] <twosouls82> kpersonalizer is it called
[11:05] <stdin> emilsedgh: I guess that's what the kde4 beta1 live CD is for
[11:05] <twosouls82> safes time in the future
[11:05] <twosouls82> :)
[11:06] <emilsedgh> wihi, KDE Team did a really nice job! at last Bidi problems are solved in Kate and Konsole supports utf8 encoding and Bidi.It didnt work in Konsole of 3.x
[11:07] <emilsedgh> stdin: if i was able to download an Iso, then I was downloading svn Trunk! but yeah, thanks...
[11:07] <dromer> !bidi
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bidi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <dromer> anyone here with experience in running ubuntu (or other distro) on iMacs ?
[11:08] <emilsedgh> ubotu: Thats for who use a RTL language...
[11:08] <dromer> my youthcenter has a ton of iMacs htat everybody get's pissed on fer being 1) slow 2) retarded
[11:09] <stdin> emilsedgh: it would only take about 34 hours on 56k dialup :p
[11:09] <emilsedgh> fool me!
[11:09] <sito> who play it m4p in kubuntu
[11:09] <stdin> 600MB@5KB/s = ~34hours
[11:10] <emilsedgh> stdin: lol
[11:11] <emilsedgh> stdin: and then...that LiveCD doesnt support my Modem..., I cannot use it! :P
[11:12] <stdin> emilsedgh: you don't need the internet to test amarok :)
[11:13] <Martiini> Sorry, offtopic, Where is the biggest kde development community? Are there more KDE developers in Germany or USA or UK ?
[11:13] <emilsedgh> stdin: yes, but 1)It was unable to access my harddrive 2)I want to try things while I do other things, like now, I mean these Kubuntu packages where better experience that KDE 4 Live, I tried them on last Alpha's, Unusable...
[11:14] <emilsedgh> Martiini: AFAIK most of them are in north Europe, there is a map on Commit-digest.org that shows you this...
[11:15] <stdin> emilsedgh: the beta cd is better than the alpha1 or 2, but running kde4 in a little window in nice :)
[11:17] <emilsedgh> thats the point stdin, having both of them...testing dolphin while talking to you at here and listening to music..
[11:18] <tezza> anyone have problems with streaming videos off mounted smbfs shares?
[11:18] <tezza> every second or so it freezes for a split second
[11:24] <johannesNeu> hi guys! can someone help me - got my kubuntu gutsy with kd4-development snapshot3 - want to develop for kde4 now ... don't now which directories & stuff i should use
[11:24] <stdin> johannesNeu: #ubuntu+1
[11:25] <johannesNeu> stdin: thx
[11:50] <t> hola
[11:50] <t> hallo
[11:51] <t> Q es esto?????????
[11:52] <stdin> !es
[11:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:57] <lione> hello people such sing: after /etc/init.d/zaptel start next output: zaptel telephony kernel driver:FATAL: Module ztdummy not found
[11:59] <lione> what does that mean?
[11:59] <lione> I have installed asterisk and zaptel on ubuntu server 7
[12:00] <yamal> lione: you still need to get the module on your system
[12:00] <lione> where can I get it?
[12:00] <yamal> zaptel module is listed in 'module-assistant', try compiling from there
[12:00] <lione> I'm using digium tdm 22b
[12:01] <lione> there is no way to solve this without compilation?
[12:04] <yamal> lione: it probably isn't listed in module-assistant if there wouldn't be a need to compile it.
[12:04] <yamal> and at least this way it's easy
[12:09] <tezza> could someone ping an address for me and let me know the results...
[12:12] <pag> tezza, "ping: unknown host an address" :P
[12:12] <tezza> heh...
[12:13] <pag> telling the address might help further experiments ;)
[12:13] <tezza> look in priv ;oP
[12:14] <pag> tezza, you're not registered, are you?
[12:14] <tezza> nope
[12:14] <pag> !register | tezza
[12:14] <ubotu> tezza: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:20] <dhq> how to kill the usb device manager
[12:20] <krowz> hello
[12:22] <pag> dhq, kill <process id>
[12:23] <pag> dhq, you can search for pid  with ie.  ps aux | grep something
[12:24] <dhq> pag, well i pluged in my pendrive
[12:25] <dhq> pag, it is not recognised and there is a message whcich keeps on looping
[12:25] <pag> dhq, hmm.. dunno then :-/
[12:26] <dhq>  [929880.072000]  sdc : READ CAPACITY failed. [929880.072000]  sdc : status=0, message=00, host=1, driver=00 [929880.072000]  sdc : sense not available. [929880.072000]  sdc: Write Protect is off [929880.072000]  sdc: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00  [929880.072000]  sdc: assuming drive cache: write through
[12:31] <krowz> could someone help me with my wireless
[12:31] <pag> !wireless | krowz
[12:31] <ubotu> krowz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:31] <bliss> hi
[12:32] <Stranger> does anyone see what i'm writing?
[12:34] <dhq> Stranger, lol i see
[12:41] <leus> watz more better glom or kexi?
[12:45] <dhq> how to unload and reload  all modules without restart
[12:45] <Lynoure> leus: try both, and you'll see which is better for you
[01:01] <francesco> !it
[01:01] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:02] <heeven> !joomla
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joomla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <francesco> !channel #kubuntu-it
[01:03] <heeven> there arent any packages for joomla?
[01:04] <pag> !find joomla
[01:04] <ubotu> Package/file joomla does not exist in feisty
[01:04] <heeven> :( thanks
[01:12] <heeven> !find apache
[01:12] <ubotu> Found: apache2, apache2-doc, apache2-mpm-event, apache2-mpm-perchild, apache2-mpm-prefork (and 160 others)
[01:12] <bubbleit_> Folks anyone managed to get ubuntu working on a cobalt raq?
[01:13] <Gh0Sty2K> Folks anyone managed to get ubuntu working on a cobalt raq?
[01:17] <emilsedgh> heeven: why do you want to install Joomla from a package? thats really not a good solution, I Think
[01:17] <utente> ciao
[01:18] <heeven> emilsedgh: just seeing if it have. i already have the tarball. now im having problems installing apache. it givesme one error with a library i think
[01:19] <emilsedgh> heeven: dunno, Apache is a common package, should work... sudo apt-get install apach2 ;)
[01:21] <heeven> yes
[01:21] <heeven> with synaptic it givesme and error, with sudo apt-get it went nice :p
[01:21] <heeven> *an
[01:24] <emilsedgh> heeven: ah, I really miss synaptic in KDE.Adept is cool but that Search While typing makes me crazy!.also very bad informations while downloading..It should be improved
[01:24] <heeven> emilsedgh: yap
[01:25] <GhOsty2K> Folks
[01:25] <GhOsty2K> how do i login to ssh on ubuntu, it wont recognise my pass
[01:25] <_ubuntu> hi
[01:25] <_ubuntu> no offence with the nick its just that i am on a live cd
[01:25] <GhOsty2K> nevermind sorted it
[01:26] <GhOsty2K> ;)
[01:26] <heeven> but now i have another problem. he let me install things with sudo, but when i do "su -", i says "authentication failure", it shouldnt be the same password?
[01:27] <_ubuntu> cahoot: thanks for your help before as andyp startx worked fine
[01:39] <GhOsty2K> how do i change the permission for ssh on ubuntu ?
[01:40] <Dragnslcr> What permission?
[01:44] <GhOsty2K> Well it seems like ssh is working, but wont give me permission to make changes to system files
[01:44] <GhOsty2K> so i would like to know how i would go about changing permission settings using ssh?
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> Probably because the user you're logged in as doesn't have write permission to those files
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> SSH doesn't affect permissions in any way. You have exactly the same permissions as you would if you were sitting in front of the computer
[01:45] <GhOsty2K> ahh ok
[01:46] <GhOsty2K> ill investigate
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> Normally only root can edit system files
[01:46] <GhOsty2K> what would the password for root be?
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> There isn't one, normally
[01:46] <GhOsty2K> proabbly be the same as my user then
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> You use sudo for root operations
[01:47] <GhOsty2K> but when i ssh it wont let me login as sudo
[01:48] <GhOsty2K> and when i login as root it wont accpet the password, im using winscp you see to do file operations and i cant sudo using that
[01:48] <Lynoure> login as sudo? what's that?
[01:48] <Lynoure> you mean login as root?
[01:48] <GhOsty2K> <<< newbie here!
[01:48] <GhOsty2K> yup
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> You'd have to scp the files to your home directory then use a shell login to move the files
[01:49] <ja> witam
[01:49] <GhOsty2K> ohh well.. ill try that.
[01:49] <Lynoure> GhOsty2K: usually good thing to forbid. you can  sudo su  to root if you really need to
[01:49] <ja> jakie jest domyslne haslo dla superusera w systemie Ola Dom ?
[01:49] <GhOsty2K> Lynoure np..
[01:49] <GhOsty2K> thanks
[01:51] <GhOsty2K> whats the apt-get name for zend optimizer?
[01:59] <xtf> hallo?
[02:00] <xtf> Am i all alone????????????????????
[02:01] <CerebralGump> nope
[02:01] <xtf> im such a newbie :-(
[02:01] <CerebralGump> Its just quiet at the moment
[02:01] <xtf> hey tell me hows xmms compare 2 amarok?
[02:01] <CerebralGump> It doesn't ?
[02:01] <CerebralGump> Amarok > xmms
[02:02] <xtf> does xmms have all restricted drivers?
[02:02] <xtf> (im new to kubuntu)
[02:02] <CerebralGump> codecs
[02:02] <xtf> yea
[02:02] <CerebralGump> thats a separate issue
[02:02] <CerebralGump> !codecs
[02:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:03] <CerebralGump> thankyou ubotu
[02:03] <xtf> i doint get lots of time on the net so im getting what i can my dads house
[02:03] <xtf> windows brain washed me (fuck windows!!!) i think
[02:03] <Riddell> !language
[02:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:03] <xtf> oops !
[02:04] <xtf> sorry to all!
[02:05] <xtf> last thing i want to know is, is there a aptoncd for kubuntu?
[02:05] <xtf> if some one can help me?
[02:05] <CerebralGump> !repositories
[02:05] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:05] <xtf> no
[02:06] <xtf> i want to put some stuff on a cd like aptoncd
[02:06] <xtf> so i doint need internet
[02:06] <xtf> (becuase i doint have internet)
[02:06] <CerebralGump> ok
[02:06] <xtf> sooo um can you help?
[02:07] <CerebralGump> I'm googling
[02:07] <xtf> thanx
[02:08] <xtf> so how old are u?
[02:09] <CerebralGump> Try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352460
[02:09] <xtf> ok
[02:09] <xtf> so how old are u?
[02:10] <CerebralGump> You will need good bandwidth for this
[02:11] <CerebralGump> Its an overnight job
[02:11] <xtf> ?
[02:11] <xtf> doint get it?
[02:11] <CerebralGump> And 35GB free disk space
[02:12] <xtf> ok? sure? what?
[02:12] <CerebralGump> You could probably ask someone to download it all for you
[02:12] <CerebralGump> Repositories
[02:12] <CerebralGump> So you have them on DVD
[02:12] <xtf> oh
[02:12] <xtf> yea but who?
[02:13] <xtf> i live in south africa
[02:13] <xtf> (capetown)
[02:13] <CerebralGump> You have any friends with an unlimited broadband connection ?
[02:13] <crypt> Sysinfo for 'erz0': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2500+ at 1837 MHz (3678 bogomips), , RAM: 374/503MB, 107 proc's, 2.40min up
[02:13] <xtf> i wish!
[02:14] <CerebralGump> ok
[02:14] <xtf> hey thanks for all your help
[02:14] <CerebralGump> Could try something like this: http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/278
[02:17] <CerebralGump> AptOnCD wont do you any good unless you have a good broadband connection with which to create it
[02:17] <xtf> damn i doint have that type of cash $29.95 (yet i will have to save up)
[02:17] <xtf> oh
[02:19] <CerebralGump> Do you have any good PC places in Capetown ? ie. Where would you go if your PC died ?
[02:20] <xtf> yes im sure there is one...
[02:21] <xtf> why?
[02:21] <CerebralGump> You could ask them if they will do it for you
[02:21] <xtf> not a bad idea?
[02:22] <xtf> If they are not stingy
[02:22] <xtf> (with the net)
[02:22] <CerebralGump> Well it is a rather large download
[02:22] <xtf> my mouse is stuck?
[02:22] <xtf> oh sorry i kciked the cabel
[02:22] <CerebralGump> What kind of connection do you have right now ?
[02:22] <xtf> kicked
[02:23] <xtf> now at my das i have a adsl mega 100wr
[02:23] <xtf> and i only have like 20 min's left to use before i go to my mom (that sucks)
[02:24] <CerebralGump> At your dads ?
[02:24] <xtf> i like kubuntu alot but its so hard to get software
[02:24] <xtf> yea
[02:24] <xtf> im poor
[02:24] <CerebralGump> Why don't you just download the packages you want and get some updates while you can
[02:24] <xtf> thats what i just did
[02:24] <xtf> well i got xmms
[02:24] <xtf> and ruby
[02:25] <xtf> oh and java jdk 1.6
[02:25] <CerebralGump> kubuntu already has amarok
[02:25] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d182ca1cf  apache2 installation error
[02:25] <xtf> yea but i heard that xmms comes with drivers
[02:25] <CerebralGump> you didn't need xmms
[02:26] <CerebralGump> you needed multimedia codecs
[02:26] <xtf> i know it was a dumb move on my part
[02:26] <xtf> what to download?
[02:26] <CerebralGump> !codecs
[02:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:27] <_ubuntu> hi
[02:27] <CerebralGump> hi
[02:27] <_ubuntu> am useing an old kubuntu live cd what are the new sorces.list entries where can i find them
[02:27] <Martiini> I want to remove dodumentation in other languages /usr/share/man/es , /usr/share/man/fi /usr/share/man/fr
[02:27] <Martiini> Please
[02:28] <Martiini> _ubuntu type sources.list generator in googe and choose first result
[02:28] <ksivaji> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[02:28] <ksivaji> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[02:28] <ksivaji> Unable to open logs
[02:28] <CerebralGump> xtf: click those links and save the pages so you can read them offline, so next time youre connected you'll know what you need to download
[02:29] <Martiini> heiii
[02:29] <Martiini> anyone
[02:29] <Martiini> ??!!
[02:29] <xtf> yea i will do that
[02:29] <CerebralGump> Martiini: use Adept
[02:29] <xtf> hey where you live
[02:29] <ksivaji> CerebralGump do you any suggestion for me
[02:29] <xtf> why u use kubuntu?
[02:29] <_ubuntu> Martini; thanks
[02:30] <xtf> (ure a guru evry one needs you)
[02:30] <CerebralGump> ksivaji: sorry I'm not up to speed on Apache
[02:30] <CerebralGump> xtf: cause I like kubuntu
[02:31] <xtf> no not what i mean (there are so many like fedora why did you choose kubuntu?)
[02:31] <CerebralGump> cause I like it
[02:31] <CerebralGump> :p
[02:31] <xtf> ok :-) lol
[02:32] <llutz> xtf: how can one like something rpm-based? ;)
[02:32] <CerebralGump> And I prefer apt distros
[02:32] <xtf> becuase i can download at the internet shop
[02:32] <xtf> a .rpm package
[02:32] <Martiini> xtf .. hei! you want to have a discussion about distro preferences
[02:32] <Martiini> ?
[02:33] <xtf> not much to say about it
[02:33] <xtf> but yes sure
[02:33] <CerebralGump> you can download packages for kubuntu at the internet cafe also
[02:33] <xtf> i wish kubuntu had deb and rpm
[02:33] <xtf> how?
[02:34] <CerebralGump> the internet...
[02:34] <Martiini> xtf alien package
[02:34] <xtf> doint i need my pc there?
[02:34] <Martiini> for rpm
[02:34] <CerebralGump> no
[02:34] <xtf> i mean om my memory stick
[02:34] <CerebralGump> yes
[02:34] <Martiini> xtf - Are YOu listening ,,, hey?
[02:34] <llutz> using alien-rpm isn't recommended and in most cases useless
[02:34] <xtf> yea i am
[02:35] <Martiini> llutz  "using alien-rpm isn't recommended and in most cases useless" Why ?
[02:35] <xtf> rpm and deb
[02:35] <Martiini> I thought you need alien to install rpm
[02:35] <xtf> ?
[02:35] <xtf> i heard that
[02:35] <llutz> Martiini: converted rpms can cause severe trouble in you system, the dependencies, pathes etc. may vary
[02:35] <xtf> that sucks
[02:36] <xtf> but what if i wanted to download vlc
[02:36] <llutz> Martiini: its always better to look for 3rd-party deb instead to convert rpms
[02:36] <Martiini> k, so If debian is missing a package its best to compile from source ??
[02:36] <yamal> xtf: you are located in cape town?
[02:36] <CerebralGump> xtf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:36] <llutz> xtf there are vlc.debs
[02:36] <Martiini> k , talk to you laters , thanks for help
[02:36] <xtf> i cant find them
 yea in the strand
[02:37] <xtf> then i am dumb!
[02:37] <xtf> sorry i did not know that
[02:37] <yamal> xtf: this might be helpful to overcome your problem of limited internet access: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/Freedom_Toaster#UCT_Freedom_Toaster
[02:38] <llutz> xtf you haven't searched: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[02:38] <CerebralGump> xtf: Search for packages here http://packages.ubuntu.com/ or browse packages http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[02:39] <yamal> xtf: it appears to include a full 4 dvd set of ubuntu packages, ready to go/burn
[02:39] <xtf> yamal where you live?
[02:39] <yamal> netherlands
[02:40] <xtf> that sucks
[02:40] <yamal> not really :)
[02:40] <CerebralGump> yamal: the freedom toaster looks pretty cool
[02:41] <CerebralGump> xtf: You live in CapeTown ?
[02:41] <yamal> CerebralGump: indeed, certainly if xtf's problem with inet access is common in south africa
[02:41] <CerebralGump> xtf: The Freedom Toaster is at UCT
[02:41] <xtf> yea
[02:42] <xtf> where?
[02:42] <CerebralGump> UCT
[02:42] <CerebralGump> University of Cape Town
[02:42] <yamal> xtf: read the link I posted a few minutes ago
[02:42] <llutz> xtf: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/Freedom_Toaster#Where
[02:42] <xtf> oh (sorry for the dumb question)
[02:42] <xtf> yea sorry im a little slow today
[02:42] <yamal> looks like it's free if you bring your own writable dvds
[02:42] <xtf> so much to get so little time
[02:43] <CerebralGump> Go and hug the freedom toaster
[02:43] <yamal> or a laptop
[02:43] <CerebralGump> ;)
[02:44] <xtf> i will when i see if it worx
[02:44] <xtf> damn the updates are taking long
[02:45] <xtf> now at 14%
[02:45] <xtf> how to save a page on konqueror and read it offline?
[02:46] <CerebralGump> location > save as
[02:46] <xtf> ?
[02:46] <xtf> oh sorry
[02:47] <xtf> never mind what i sead
[02:47] <xtf> yippy its saved
[02:47] <CerebralGump> :)
[02:48] <xtf> CerebralGump whats your email? (when i need help or a frend?)
[02:48] <CerebralGump> use my msn
[02:49] <xtf> ok
[02:49] <CerebralGump> talkjeremy@optusnet.com.au
[02:49] <xtf> its CerebralGump?
[02:50] <xtf> ok my one is xtfusion@gmail.com
[02:50] <CerebralGump> k
[02:51] <xtf> hey im not raceist but is it true that there are almost no black peapol in australia?
[02:51] <xtf> (sorry my spelling)
[02:51] <CerebralGump> no
[02:51] <xtf> oh cool
[02:51] <xtf> my cuz whent there and he says that
[02:52] <xtf> not that im black
[02:52] <CerebralGump> ...
[02:52] <xtf> but just wondaring
[02:52] <xtf> im talking crap again...
[02:53] <xtf> hey i gota go chat again one day....... i hope?
[02:53] <aluno> oi
[02:53] <CerebralGump> no problem
[02:53] <aluno> tudo bom ?
[02:53] <xtf> thanks for the help chow
[02:54] <CerebralGump> np cya
[02:55] <aluno> hhmh
[02:55] <aluno> oi
[02:58] <ksivaji> !source-o-matic
[02:58] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:03] <blithen> Why won't Kubuntu read my reiserfs drive?
[03:04] <llutz> blithen: it should, reiser3 exists as a kernel-module
[03:05] <blithen> Well. Some programs do. Such as Qtparted and a few others.
[03:05] <blithen> But when I got to /media.
[03:05] <blithen> It's not there
[03:07] <mick__> hi - does anyone know what to do if the auto mount of usb devices stops working?
[03:07] <mick__> ...short of a reboot
[03:08] <mick__> syslog reports the usb device appearing - udevmonitor also - no mount occurs
[03:08] <RadiantFire_> mick__: try logging out and logging back in
[03:08] <RadiantFire_> i know, almost a reboot, but sometimes it works
[03:10] <mick__> I'm trying to avoid logging out too - too much work to get done here!
[03:13] <mick__> hmm, didn't work - can I somehow restart udev or something?
[03:14] <ksivaji> !adeptfix
[03:14] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:14] <_bonD_> can I use the primary boot partition (the one containing GRUB) as the linux swap partition as well ? If not, what's the minimum size of the partition that would contain grub ?
[03:14] <leus> how do i install kde 3.5.7 in my kubuntu 7.04 (feisty)?
[03:17] <mick__> anybody know how the automounting of usb devices is supposed to work?
[03:18] <_bonD_> rightclick your contact and click desktop jussi01
[03:19] <jussi01> _bonD_: no, konversation. when the program starts, I want it to start minimised to tray, not fullscreen window
[03:21] <llutz> _bonD_: activate systray-icon in settings, then it should start minimized
[03:21] <caboose_1980> ,
[03:22] <aguitel> anyone know how Beryl is working in kubuntu ?
[03:23] <mick__> aguitel: works fine here on i810 gfx
[03:24] <aguitel> mick_ ,what means i810gfx ?
[03:25] <aguitel> i have Nvidia card Geoforce mx440
[03:25] <mick__> aguitel: intel i810 graphics chipset
[03:25] <mick__> beryl works well on nvidia driver too
[03:26] <aguitel> and in my video card?
[03:27] <mick__> aguitel: try it and see!
[03:27] <aguitel> mick_ ,tell me the url to download Beryl?
[03:27] <mick__> aguitel: beryl can be installed with apt-get
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: thats gonna be very rough running beryl on that card
[03:27] <llutz> !beryl
[03:27] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> you will have to install xgl, and your performance will be terrible
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> just wanring you.
[03:28] <aguitel> mick_ ,i am new in linux ubuntu
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> *warning
[03:29] <aguitel> what is xgl ?
[03:29] <mick__> aguitel: you can probably also install it with the "add/remove programs" menu option
[03:30] <aguitel> what is xgl ?
[03:31] <mick__> xgl is a compositing x-server -- and the next question is... :)
[03:32] <mick__> aguitel: don't worry about it - get help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:32] <mick__> it might work well for you - I ran it on an old geforce 4mx OK
[03:33] <aguitel> ok
[03:33] <mick__> ...not fast but some fun effects
[03:33] <dhq> !apache
[03:33] <aguitel> ok thanks
[03:33] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:36] <heeven> how can i see my php version, apache and php?
[03:37] <heeven> *mysql sorry
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> "mysql --version"
[03:38] <heeven> and apache and php?
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> apache should be the same
[03:39] <heeven> ok thanks :)
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> "apache --version"
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> I don't have apache installed so I don't know
[03:43] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d5d2a5db8
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> and what are we looking at ksivaji?
[03:44] <ksivaji> nosrednaekim i cant start apache2 why ?
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> ksivaji: GO TO #APACHE
[03:47] <dromer> how can I see what codec a certian avi is encoded with?
[03:48] <[GuS] > ksivaji: that is not usefull information, you should post your apache error log
[03:48] <[GuS] > which is inside /var/log/apache2/
[03:48] <ksivaji> ok wait
[03:49] <ksivaji> error.log is empty
[03:49] <ksivaji> [GuS] 
[03:49] <[GuS] > mm...
[03:50] <[GuS] > thats kind impossible indeed... cause there apache keeps log even when you start the server
[03:51] <ksivaji> [GuS]  i cant start apache
[03:52] <llutz> dromer: "file <video.avi>"
[03:52] <[GuS] > "Unable to open logs  this is why does not keep logs
[03:52] <[GuS] > weird..
[03:53] <[GuS] > and without the error on the log is hard to catch what is happening
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> can you start apache as a normal user?
[03:53] <ksivaji> [GuS]  my httpd.conf and apache.conf is empty
[03:53] <[GuS] > apache.conf empty?
[03:53] <[GuS] > there you have a problem
[03:53] <dromer> llutz: thnx
[03:53] <[GuS] > if why apache does not start
[03:54] <[GuS] > apache2.conf comes with the installation
[03:54] <ksivaji> [GuS]  i installed all the apache plugins
[03:54] <[GuS] > with default configuration
[03:54] <[GuS] > ksivaji: you dont need that...
[03:54] <[GuS] > you have a installation problem there, is imposible to have apache2.conf empty
[03:54] <dromer> llutz: alice_01.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 320 x 240, 23.98 fps, video:  << this doesn't say what codec it is ..
[03:54] <[GuS] > you should delete and purge all configuration from apache, and install it again
[03:54] <ksivaji> [GuS]  do you have apache2 can you pastebin your apache2.conf
[03:55] <[GuS] > ksivaji: that is not enought indeed
[03:55] <[GuS] > cause i have my own configuration there...
[03:55] <llutz> dromer: here"alien_vs_predator.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 720 x 576, 25.00 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)"
[03:55] <[GuS] > just try what i told you
[03:55] <ksivaji> [GuS]  ok
[03:55] <dromer> llutz: hmmm
[03:56] <ksivaji> [GuS]  you want me to do thsi "sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2"
[03:57] <ksivaji> [GuS]  :
[03:57] <[GuS] > the --purge goes at the end
[03:58] <[GuS] > and make sure to delete (if not with purse) the apache2 dir, so when you install it again, it will create the confs.
[04:14] <e1mer> hello all, im trying up aquamarine decorator, how to i switch themes?
[04:14] <e1mer> anyone?
[04:14] <e1mer> hello all, im trying up aquamarine decorator, how to i switch themes?
[04:15] <slougi> e1mer: if i remember correctly just change the theme in the system settings
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> use the kde window decorations settings
[04:16] <ksivaji> !info apache2
[04:16] <ubotu> apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2build1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
[04:20] <Ash-Fox> Would anyone have any idea how to make a password protected pendrive? In the way that I could just insert my pen drive, and kubuntu would ask me a password to mount it?
[04:20] <e1mer> slougi: nosrednaekim, thanks
[04:29] <master_> how rotate the cube in beryl?
[04:29] <e1mer> is there a guide now for upgrading feisty to gutsy
[04:29] <kosch_afk> CTRL + Mouse i think
[04:29] <kosch_afk> or alt
[04:29] <e1mer> master_: i use ctrl+alt + mouse
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> master_: ctrl+alt+arrow buttons
[04:30] <kosch_afk> or both - yep :D
[04:30] <e1mer> is there a guide now for upgrading feisty to gutsy
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> e1mer: yeah, its on kubuntu.org
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> under the latest tribe release notes
[04:34] <kogo__> what's the easiest way of changing the default KDM login theme?
[04:35] <e1mer> thanks again nosrednaekim
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> NP
[04:42] <someguy> hello everyone
[04:42] <vbhide> hi
[04:42] <someguy> can anyone help me find a USB PCI card that will work with Kubuntu?
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> hey
[04:42] <someguy> hey guys
[04:42] <someguy> i have run out of usb slots
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> use a hub..
[04:43] <llutz> someguy: i haven't seen one, not working ;)
[04:43] <someguy> i have
[04:43] <someguy> =P
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> wow....
[04:43] <someguy> forums seem to show some as problematic
[04:46] <someguy> llutz so should i not go with some random chinese no name brand?
[04:47] <someguy> that is what i had and it didn't work
[04:47] <llutz> someguy: i have used 5-7 of the cheapest pci-cards i could get in .de, never had any problem with them. NEC or TI Chipsets
[04:47] <someguy> llutz - thats what I was looking for
[04:47] <someguy> llutz - thanks
[04:48] <someguy> going 2 ebay now
[04:57] <someguy> llutz - just got one for <$10. Thanks man! =) have a good one
[05:00] <ubuntu__> join/ irc.p2p-network.com
[05:00] <ubuntu__> join /irc.p2p-network.com
[05:00] <ubuntu__> damn
[05:05] <Martiini> Hei (again)!!  I want to set Konsole/bash  cache/(text scrollback)   to unlimited (infinite) , please
[05:08] <NickPresta> Martiini, Settings > History > Set Unlimited
[05:08] <NickPresta> That should do it
[05:11] <Aliyns> hi
[05:11] <Martiini> NickPresta:  Is that for command history or whole output (scrollback) history?
[05:11] <NickPresta> !hi | Aliyns
[05:11] <ubotu> Aliyns: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:12] <Martiini> I thought it just for command history
[05:12] <Martiini> and I need to use "script" to log bash output ??
[05:12] <Martiini> right??
[05:12] <Aliyns> I was wondering if someone could help me.. I just installed Kubuntu on my desktop using the Alternate CD, I have a 8800GTS it has finished installing but now all I get is a black screen because I'm assuming theres no video drivers or something for it. I have no other video card and wanted to know if there was any other way I can download and install the nvidia drivers on the computer.
[05:12] <Martiini> ok, nevermind
[05:13] <NickPresta> Martiini, I believe it is the numbers of lines in your scrolling history. You can check out ~/.bash_history and ~/.bash_* for more configuration options
[05:13] <Martiini> NickPresta:  Danke Thank you
[05:14] <Martiini> BTW  KDE has become ONE AWSOME desktop :)
[05:14] <NickPresta> Aliyns, you can reconfigure X so you get a GUI, then you can install the appropriate drivers.
[05:14] <Aliyns> Any documentation on how to do that?
[05:14] <Martiini> Im well happy with the direction kde is going to :)
[05:14] <runlevelten> Martiini: Glad you like it.
[05:14] <Martiini> :) Thanks
[05:14] <Dr_willis> I wonder if the !nvidia page has info on the 8800
[05:14] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:15] <Dr_willis> The 8800 i hear requires the newest nvidia drivers, which are not in th repos. yet.
[05:15] <NickPresta> !xconfig | Aliyns
[05:15] <ubotu> Aliyns: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[05:15] <Aliyns> How do I do this on the computer that has no video output tho?
[05:16] <Martiini> on command line?
[05:16] <Aliyns> I just get a black screen no flashing cursor no nothing.
[05:16] <Martiini> ok, blah ,
[05:17] <NickPresta> Aliyns, when you're at the black screen, switch to tty (Press Control+Alt+F1-8) IIRC.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> booot to single user mode. edit the xorg.conf file to use the 'vesa' driver, then you shoul dbe able to get a default/slow X gui at least.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-F1 'might' get you to a console.
[05:18] <Martiini> Aliyns:  so you get NO output from your video card WHATSOEVER?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> dependong on how badly the drivers crashed.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> If it dosent work , use the rescue/single user mode feature
[05:18] <Aliyns> I get no output thats right but my screen doesn't go on to standby as if it were getting no signal.
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Aliyns,  you dont have3 a tv hooked up as well do you?
[05:19] <Martiini> bye, seeya :)
[05:19] <Aliyns> Nope, ctrl-alt-F1-8 got me no where either. :(
[05:20] <Dr_willis> you are using the FUNCTION keys right/ not 1, :) but F1
[05:20] <Aliyns> Yeah I'm definatly sure :P
[05:21] <NickPresta> Aliyns, well, you could always pop in the LiveCD, mount the HDD and then change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use "vesa" drivers as Dr_willis suggested.
[05:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> if he can get to the grub menu,s and boot to single user mode (rescue mode) he wont need to mess weith the live cd.
[05:21] <Aliyns> Yeah, the problem with that is... The live CD doesn't work either I get the same problem hence why I used the Alternate to install.
[05:22] <Aliyns> I'll reboot and check if I can get into the grub menu.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> sounds tome  like you need to hit the forums to find the proper way to get the nvidia drivers for the 8800 card.
[05:22] <NickPresta> Hey BluesKaj
[05:22] <Dr_willis> or try that vesa stuff.. but heck that might not even work.
[05:22] <BluesKaj> hi NickPresta
[05:23] <Aliyns> Recovery mode looking good I got a command line now :D
[05:23] <karthik> any 1 from India
[05:24] <karthik> Any one who want to help me in electronics / C++ ?
[05:25] <NickPresta> karthik, this is a channel for Kubuntu help. Freenode has a C++ channel - I'm sure they would be able to help you better than we would.
[05:25] <karthik> OK
[05:26] <karthik> so who has what doubt in Kubuntu?
[05:26] <karthik> Im good at it
[05:27] <karthik> Look's like none has any doubut?!
[05:27] <karthik> HELLOOOOOOOOOOO
[05:28] <NickPresta> karthik, what are you going on about?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:28] <karthik> well you said this is for Kubuntu help
[05:28] <NickPresta> karthik, yes?
[05:29] <karthik> so I am asking people weather they need any help
[05:29] <Tm_T> haha
[05:29] <NickPresta> karthik, if people need help, they will usually ask :)
[05:30] <karthik> Ok I have a doubt?
[05:30] <karthik> how to goto C++ discussion room?
[05:30] <Aliyns> Live i got myself a gui using vesa.. Any clue on wether Envy will install the right drivers or I have to download some beta drivers for 8800's?
[05:30] <karthik> is there any?
[05:31] <NickPresta> karthik, /join ##c++
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Aliyns,  ive never used envy - but aparantly a lot of people do.
[05:32] <BluesKaj> Aliyns: if you're running Feisty , Envy won't work , it's unsatble or broken depending on your graphics
[05:32] <BluesKaj> unstable
[05:32] <NickPresta> Aliyns, try `nvidia-glx-new` from the repos.
[05:32] <BluesKaj> Aliyns, I already tried Envy
[05:33] <Aliyns> Damn, I am using fiesty... whats the command line to use the nvidia-glx-new drivers?
[05:33] <NickPresta> Aliyns, or get `restricted-manager` and tick off graphics card.
[05:33] <karthik> Thanks a lot Nick
[05:34] <BluesKaj> it's too bad cuz Envy did work quite well in edgy
[05:34] <karthik> another doubt
[05:34] <karthik> how to find out what channels are available ?
[05:34] <NickPresta> karthik, /list
[05:34] <BluesKaj> doubt ? ...look up the meaning, karthik
[05:35] <Aliyns> restricted-manager is available through Adept?
[05:35] <NickPresta> Aliyns, `sudo apt-get install restricted-manager`
[05:36] <karthik> fine, very well
[05:36] <karthik> this is the first time I'm using IRC
[05:37] <Aliyns> Thanks NickPresta, I'm currently doing updates now so I have to wait till they finish before I continue but it gives me time to research.
[05:37] <karthik> what you do nick?
[05:37] <runlevelten> karthik: Good stuff :) There is help functionality available in IRC, incidentally.
[05:38] <karthik> ya I am reding help
[05:39] <runlevelten> karthik: Great.
[05:39] <Aliyns> Just a quick stupid question, in regards to video card drivers does it matter wether I am using Kubuntu, Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[05:39] <cloakable> No
[05:40] <runlevelten> What cloakable said.
[05:40] <karthik> Video card :no it dosent, just install the video card driver using Automatix
[05:40] <Aliyns> I am using Kubuntu x64 does this matter?
[05:40] <karthik> get automatix at getautomatix.com
[05:40] <karthik> no
[05:40] <runlevelten> Do NOT use automatix.
[05:40] <NickPresta> I strongly recommend against automatix. It has broken many systems
[05:40] <moriancumer> I agree DO NOT use automatix
[05:41] <karthik> if you use it on X64 processor all will be fine
[05:41] <cloakable> !automatix | Aliyns
[05:41] <ubotu> Aliyns: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:41] <karthik> advanced users must avoid automatix
[05:41] <Tm_T> any user
[05:41] <Tm_T> I repeat, any user
[05:41] <karthik> OK I agree any user
[05:41] <runlevelten> There is an easy-to-use GUI tool called "restricted-manager" you can install and use if you wish for a point and click way of installing proprietary graphics drivers
[05:42] <karthik> but automatix makes things easy
[05:42] <karthik> I have never heard of restricted manager
[05:42] <Aliyns> Okay, so it doesn't matter wether I'm using Ubuntu or Kubuntu or wether I'm using 32bit or 64bit.
[05:42] <Tm_T> karthik: ina wrong way
[05:42] <Assid> today isnt a good computer day
[05:42] <karthik> how to open it up?
[05:43] <karthik> its better to stick with 32-bit
[05:43] <Aliyns> I have 4GB of Ram I need 64 bit mate ;)
[05:43] <karthik> I had problem installling Java on a AMD 64-bit machine running Ubuntu
[05:44] <Aliyns> !nvidia
[05:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <karthik> ya ubotu is right
[05:45] <karthik> ok people I have got to go
[05:46] <BluesKaj> ubotu is a bot , karthik
[05:46] <karthik> thanks for all those who offered me tips today
[05:46] <Assid> hrmm
[05:46] <Assid> 4GB should technically work on 32bit
[05:46] <karthik> A BOT
[05:46] <Assid> above that would require a 64bit addressing
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Assid,  thats what i was thinking.
[05:46] <karthik> written under GNU GPL
[05:47] <Aliyns> Assid, the maximum system memory that the OS refers to includes video card memory and swap/page files.
[05:47] <carranca> Hi, im having problems launching an app from my desktop into my notebook using the DISPLAY env. Doing an nmap on localhost the X server isn't opened. any ideas?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> You mean if i use 19gb of swap file.. i got to use 64bit? :)
[05:47] <Assid> hehehe
[05:47] <karthik> hello , is ubout written under GPL license
[05:47] <Aliyns> well thats the case in Windoze
[05:48] <Assid> Aliyns: not possible.. people use 2GB ram .. 2GB swap..  and ofcourse there is the 256mb of video card
[05:48] <Assid> so does that mean they need 64bit ?
[05:48] <Assid> although 19GB of swap is kinda unrealistic
[05:48] <Assid> Aliyns: wrong..
[05:49] <Assid> i use 1.5GB of ram.. 3GB of pagefile on winxp pro 32
[05:49] <Aliyns> Yeah, without memory remapping in BIOS 32 bit windows wont read all 3GB of physical memory.
[05:49] <Assid> thats not how its counted
[05:49] <Assid> its 4GB per individual type
[05:49] <Aliyns> all 4GB*
[05:49] <Assid> brb
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !bot
[05:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:50] <Aliyns> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html
[05:52] <Aliyns> That link should explain it Assid, I went through hell trying to get Windows to read all 4GB of my memory.
[05:52] <surgy> whats a good cpp ide?
[05:52] <Aliyns> PAE is completely useless, and my motherboard lacks memory remapping so 64bit was the only way.
[05:52] <NickPresta> surgy, kdevelop
[05:53] <surgy> nickpresta yeah but the build feature ummm doesnt work for me, ii open the build menu and there is nothing there, even after i save my .cpp file
[05:56] <TooEarly> jhutchins: ya there
[05:56] <jhutchins> Yeah.  Uncaffeinated so far, but present.
[05:57] <TooEarly> lol alright. i'm using devede which seems to be working for me pretty well
[05:57] <TooEarly> but when you convert the file to a dvd what bitrate do you usually use?
[06:00] <jhutchins> TooEarly: Oh, that whole question is pretty involved.  I've pretty much stuck to application defaults, there's a lot of discussion about the trade-offs.
[06:00] <NickPresta> thanks genii!
[06:00] <hans_> hey, anyone fairly knowledgable with ubuntu who might be able to explain why audio hangs any aplpication which tries to play sound (ie. firefox/youtube, totem, amarok, gmplayer, etc)
[06:01] <hans_> i;ve done an ltrace on gmplayer and it hangs on
[06:01] <TooEarly> oh, alright. well see i used a bitrate of 5000 and it only used 2.9gigs and i want it better quality if it only uses a little
[06:01] <genii> NickPresta: np :)
[06:01] <hans_> snd_pcm_open_lconf
[06:01] <hans_> totem hangs on xine_open_audio_driver
[06:02] <jhutchins> TooEarly: Yeah, you really just have to experiment, which takes time.
[06:02] <jhutchins> TooEarly: Seems like there were some good discussion forums, maybe through tovid's site?
[06:07] <Martiini> does linux log terminal output and if so .. where can I find Konsole logs ??
[06:08] <Dr_willis> you mean logs of ALL used commands?
[06:08] <Martiini> no
[06:08] <jhutchins> Martiini: Depends on what you're doing with the terminal.
[06:08] <Dr_willis> theres the 'bash history' that has  a history of them
[06:08] <Martiini> k
[06:08] <Martiini> Ill check that
[06:10] <Jevon> Ok, when I try to install new packages using adept, I get this:
[06:10] <Jevon> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[06:11] <Jevon> anyone know whats up
[06:11] <NickPresta> Jevon, run this from a Konsole: sudo apt-get update
[06:12] <NickPresta> Jevon, then try to install a package like this: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE
[06:12] <ksivaji> NickPresta still my apache is not working
[06:12] <NickPresta> it should reveal more detailed errors
[06:12] <NickPresta> ksivaji, I still don't understand what you mean by "not working". You can't start apache2 at all?
[06:13] <ksivaji> NickPresta yes i installed apache2 but some of the files are missing
[06:13] <Jevon> this could take a few minutes...
[06:13] <ksivaji> NickPresta i compared it with genii
[06:14] <kogo__> hey guys how do i display the network icon on the task bar?
[06:14] <Jevon> and what does the update command do?
[06:15] <Jevon> ok, got some error messages on the update
[06:15] <NickPresta> Jevon, okay. what are they?
[06:15] <Jevon> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/so                          urce/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[06:15] <Jevon> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                          able)
[06:15] <Jevon> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                          ess using it?
[06:15] <ksivaji> NickPresta do you have any suggestion for me
[06:15] <ksivaji> !aptfix
[06:15] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:15] <NickPresta> Jevon, if you have Adept open, you need to close it
[06:15] <jhutchins> make sure your GUI package aps are closed.
[06:16] <NickPresta> ksivaji, short of telling you to compile apache from source, I don't know how else to help you. I've exhausted all possible solutions that I know of.
[06:16] <ksivaji> ok
[06:19] <jhutchins> ksivaji: What kind of stuff is missing?
[06:19] <ksivaji>  jhutchins missing as well as messing
[06:20] <Martiini> Dr_willis:  I ask before about konsole (bash) output logs .. I actually want to log ALL konsole output not just commands
[06:20] <Jevon> the command failed to work
[06:20] <kogo__> jevon ckck if apt is running with : pa aux | grep apt
[06:20] <kogo__> *ps not pa
[06:20] <kogo__> ps aux | grep apt
[06:20] <ksivaji> jhutchins did you got my pm
[06:20] <Martiini> Ive googled myself nuts by now :(
[06:21] <Jevon> it did not recognize command ps
[06:21] <Jevon> nm
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Martiini,  there is a command called 'script' that can do it for the current session
[06:21] <Jevon> stupid a
[06:21] <Jevon> beth     20387  0.0  0.2   2880   800 pts/1    S+   12:21   0:00 grep apts
[06:21] <Martiini> yaa , I konw that
[06:21] <Dr_willis>  ifyou want to log EVERYONE's stuff,, and not let them know about it.. theres some ways to do that. Special Login replacements I think
[06:22] <Martiini> Dr_willis:  no , thanks , Id like to log only MY konsole output for now
[06:22] <Martiini> I know script
[06:22] <Jevon> so, I get a lot of numbers that mean nothing to me
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Martiini,  ive used that script command for ages. :) what more do ya need?
[06:22] <Martiini> but how can I make konsole do that by default
[06:23] <Dr_willis> put script command in your .bashrc perhaps
[06:23] <ksivaji> Dr_willis hope you can help me
[06:23] <Jevon> put the command in a startup script?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> that can get nasty i bet with lots of logs..
[06:23] <Dr_willis> plus what if you have more then 1 shell open
[06:23] <genii> back, eating lunch so sort of AFK
[06:23] <ksivaji> Dr_willis apache is messed up here
[06:23] <ksivaji> genii :
[06:23] <Dr_willis> ksivaji,  proberly cant help ya much in tha tarea. I just apt-get install it.. and go...
[06:23] <kogo__> :-) is apt the the end of one of them?
[06:24] <Martiini> Dr_willis:  k, I'll go with that , Thank You
[06:24] <Jevon> yes
[06:24] <kogo__> print that line here
[06:24] <spawn57> !dvd
[06:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:24] <spawn57> !libdvdcss
[06:24] <Jevon> beth     20391  0.0  0.2   2880   804 pts/1    S+   12:24   0:00 grep apts
[06:25] <Jevon> apt at the very end
[06:25] <genii> ksivaji: Unfortunately I think that it is not apache2 that is the problem but that it is some deeper problem since it partially installs things. It may be in the apt-get system or even someplace else entirely. Since it's being extremely problemmatic, I hate to say but recommend a reinstall to server LAMP install, then put a window manager on after that
[06:25] <kogo__> which means aptitude aint running
[06:25] <kogo__> how about : sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <el_taco> in ubuntu I can hit ctrl-alt-<arrow> to change desktops. where can I change that setting in kde?
[06:26] <ksivaji> genii where i can get LAMP server
[06:26] <ksivaji> !synaptic
[06:26] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:26] <Jevon> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources
[06:26] <Jevon>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[06:26] <Jevon> Fetched 5B in 6s (1B/s)
[06:26] <Jevon> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[06:26] <Jevon> Reading package lists... Done
[06:26] <Jevon> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:26] <genii> ksivaji: I would recommend the Dapper 6.06 server CD...1 moment for the link
[06:27] <kogo__> are you behind a proxy?
[06:27] <Jevon> not that I know of
[06:27] <yukino> ola
[06:27] <yukino> ayuda de ubuntu en espaol
[06:27] <NickPresta> Jevon, I think if you use a mirror, your problem will go away
[06:27] <el_taco> Jevon can you ping the server?
[06:28] <NickPresta> !es | yukino
[06:28] <ubotu> yukino: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:28] <Jevon> ok, how does one use a mirror,and how much will it slow down the download
[06:28] <Jevon> I might be able to ping the server
[06:28] <Jevon> if i knew the IP
[06:28] <genii> ksivaji: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download     choose 6.06 server cd               when installing, choose LAMP setup. After that login to command line then do   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    or if you like kde then   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <el_taco> Jevon ping the hostname
[06:29] <_Assid_> hey
[06:29] <Jevon> I do not know the hostname, unless you mean earthlink
[06:29] <_Assid_> how do oyu trap the data transfer?
[06:29] <el_taco> if it can't resolv then there's a dns issue.
[06:29] <_Assid_> like what ethereal does.. but from cli
[06:29] <kogo__> ok Jevon, lets start here, how are you connected to the internet?
[06:29] <Jevon> dialup
[06:29] <_Assid_> any good packet sniffer
[06:30] <el_taco> in ubuntu I can hit ctrl-alt-<arrow> to change desktops. where can I change that setting in kde?
[06:30] <Jevon> through an external modem
[06:31] <ksivaji> genii  thanks a lot
[06:31] <Jevon> we pretty much run through the old phone lines
[06:31] <pag> el_taco, kcontrol -> keyboard shortcuts
[06:31] <kogo__> from terminal can you ping ubuntu.com
[06:31] <Jevon> damn. Powers out. Gotta get off
[06:31] <genii> ksivaji: Well, i've done what i can to help. Your best bet is the reinstall at this point.
[06:32] <ksivaji> genii i think i can have dual boot
[06:32] <_Assid_> anyone know a good cli based packert sniffer
[06:33] <el_taco> pag thanks
[06:33] <NickPresta> _Assid_, try `nast`
[06:35] <_Assid_> NickPresta: can it output to a file that ethereal can open?
[06:36] <EMoShunz> anyone know how to install autopoint?
[06:38] <seba> what is that?
[06:38] <EMoShunz> i am trying to install gstreamer, and it is saying i need autopilot to compile it
[06:39] <seba> ok
[06:39] <seba> i can not help you with that, sorry
[06:40] <EMoShunz> ok, thanks anyway
[06:40] <EMoShunz> anyone else?
[06:41] <genii> EMoShunz: So try:   sudo apt-get install autopilot
[06:44] <EMoShunz> can't find package
[06:45] <genii> EMoShunz: Interesting, on mine, the command:  apt-cache search autopilot    produces: autopilot - Monitor the DTR line of /dev/palm and run a command to start sync
[06:46] <genii> EMoShunz: I recommend enabling more repositories then in your /etc/apt/sources.list   file,  run then:   sudo apt-get update     then try the install again
[06:46] <genii> !repos
[06:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:48] <EMoShunz> i have all the optional repos installed, is there one for gstreamer specifically?
[06:49] <Kr4t05> EMoShunz: Are you trying to get restricted codecs?
[06:49] <genii> EMoShunz: Fast:    kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list              each line starting #deb or #deb-src  remove the # except the one before the line which contains cdrom (near top)
[06:51] <genii> EMoShunz: If you do that and enable all the repos already existing in your sources.list, it should find the autopilot app. i see it isted and I don't have any weird repos in my list. After you change the file, do the:  sudo apt-get update    then  try to see if the command  apt-cache search autopilot     shows what mine did (pasted here already)
[06:51] <morph_> hello all
[06:52] <morph_> anyone using avant window manager?
[06:54] <EMoShunz> genii:  that seems to have worked, wierd that i had to do that manually
[06:54] <EMoShunz> fyi, sudo apt-get install gettext also seems to install autopilot
[06:54] <genii> EMoShunz: The gui package manager isn't always that intuitive :)
[06:55] <EMoShunz> it was my backports that weren't enabled
[06:55] <genii> EMoShunz: Good. hopefully gstreamer will progress now
[07:00] <NickPresta> wow. vgacardgames (vga_soliatire) just screwed up my screen resolution
[07:07] <m477> how to mount disks on fiesta ?
[07:07] <g2g591> grr, Kwin keeps changing my window manager to itself from beryl, it usually happens when I open adept
[07:07] <jhutchins> m477: mount command works for me.
[07:08] <pag> m477, what's 'fiesta'? another nice nick for Feisty Fawn? :P
[07:08] <m477> jhutchins: but i dont see pertisions
[07:09] <pag> m477, and to answer your question; if it's not done automatically (like it usually is) use ' mount '
[07:09] <pag> !mount
[07:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:09] <m477> jhutchins: i dont know name of this partisons
[07:09] <m477> pag: where it should be mounted ?
[07:10] <jhutchins> m477: sudo fdisk -l
[07:10] <pag> m477, where ever you want... most user prefer /mount/something
[07:10] <m477> jhutchins: thanks
[07:12] <mm_202> Hey guys, probably a dumb question, but is there a way to delete all .m3u files, with recursion?  Ive tried rm -R *.m3u and it wont go into the subdirectories..
[07:13] <frojnd> hello there are thre any instructions how to install divx web player for firefox ?
[07:13] <Theory> find ./ -name '*.m3u' | xargs rm
[07:13] <titanix88> anyone know a channel for just gossip abt linux/ubuntu with activities(unlike #ubuntu-offtopic)?
[07:13] <titanix88> anyone know a channel for just gossip abt linux/ubuntu with activities(unlike #ubuntu-offtopic)?
[07:14] <m477> jhutchins: hey m8 next problem when im trying mount it request root and i log "su" and same trobule
[07:15] <m477> jhutchins: or i shuold use "sudo mount " ?
[07:16] <mm_202> thank you, Theory.
[07:16] <titanix88> m477 mount what?
[07:16] <m477> titanix88: disk
[07:16] <m477> ok works
[07:16] <frojnd> does anyone know how to install divx web player for firefox. I wanna watch divx videos, like on this site: http://joox.net/cat/23/id/1239523   anyone ??
[07:17] <titanix88> !divx
[07:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:17] <pfein> is there any tool to help copy .kde setting from one laptop to another?
[07:18] <jussi01> pfein:i dont  know, but why not just copy the .kde over?
[07:19] <pfein> jussi01: the dest. box is old & running xfce, but there are a few kde apps I'm gonna use (incl. konversation)
[07:19] <pfein> jussi01: but probably no konq. :(
[07:20] <pfein> eh, I'll just tar it up & stick it on a usbdisk, it's tiny.
[07:20] <pfein> thx
[07:20] <titanix88> pfein: is it so important to transfer settings:?
[07:20] <genii> pfein: If the machine is old and marginal ram etc, remember that any kde app you put onto the xfce system has to load a bunch of libraries from kde to use it (on top of the xfce system), making it terribly worse than just putting full kde on
[07:21] <pfein> it'd be nice
[07:21] <pfein> genii: I realize
[07:21] <genii> pfein: Good :)
[07:21] <jhutchins> genii: That's a bit of a stretch.
[07:22] <jhutchins> genii: You're not loading any of the kde desktop features.
[07:22] <pfein> jhutchins: yeah, and I'm just going to use Konsole w/i konversation as my terminals, so that's one less app too.
[07:23] <genii> jhutchins: Well, this is true. but I installed only 2 kde apps on my xubuntu box, and it was costing me about 30% more cpu load and 12Mb ram resources
[07:23] <NickPresta> depending on what the dependencies are, you might want to use kdelibs instead of full blown KDE
[07:23] <genii> (as soon as i loaded one)
[07:23] <BFC> Hi, I have a wierd problem. My wlan was working fine in kubuntu. But suddenly it doesnt work. the wierd thing is that using wireless assist i can see all the networks in range
[07:23] <BFC> I just can't connect to my wlan
[07:24] <titanix88> submit it to kde feature reqest & i'm sure they will add it within hours...:)
[07:24] <titanix88> submit it to kde feature reqest & i'm sure they will add it within hours...:)
[07:24] <pfein> NickPresta: I just apt-get installed konversation, it pulled the minimal stuff it needed.
[07:24] <mm_202> Theory:  not to be a pain, but that didnt quite work,
[07:24] <mm_202> rm: cannot remove `Sunday/Louder': No such file or directory
[07:24] <mm_202> rm: cannot remove `Now.m3u': No such file or directory
[07:25] <mm_202> its passing it to rm, but not with quotes
[07:25] <genii> pfein: I exaggerated somewhat when I said it was worse than just putting full kde on. but not much
[07:26] <pfein> I might need kcontrolcenter though, ugh.
[07:27] <pfein> some of the gtk themes are quite nice, I was surprised to find.
[07:28] <titanix88> i miss human gtk theme in kde.
[07:28] <titanix88> i miss human gtk theme in kde.
[07:28] <Theory> mm_202: find ./ -name '*.m3u' -print0 | xargs -0 rm
[07:28] <Theory> should do it then
[07:28] <yrg> hi
[07:28] <titanix88> can 't anyone make it for kde?
[07:30] <titanix88> mm_200 plain rm doesn't work?what was ur command?
[07:31] <titanix88> yrg hi
[07:31] <yrg> titanix88: I thought there were some clones of the "human" theme for kde..?
[07:32] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know of a tool that could automatically forward all of the mail from one e-mail account to another, like a daemon or something?
[07:32] <titanix88> yrg where to find?
[07:32] <yrg> just do a search on kde-look.org
[07:33] <yrg> I found a theme manager-theme and some window decorations.
[07:37] <ksivaji> genii can you ssh into my system and fix the problem
[07:37] <arquilin> hola
[07:37] <arquilin> Es verdad que Kword puede abrir  y editar pdf o entendi mal lo que lei?
[07:38] <genii> ksivaji:  You are still working on the apache2 problem? Or now some other?
[07:38] <ksivaji> genii apache2
[07:38] <genii> ksivaji:  I'm not sure there is much that can be done anymore, but I could give it a try. Give me the url etc by pm
[07:41] <seba> anyone knows why kexi do not transform the forms from a mdb file, but do the tables???
[07:42] <ksivaji> genii :
[07:44] <seba> anyone knows why kexi do not transform the forms from a mdb file, but do the tables???
[07:51] <seba> anyone knows why kexi do not transform the forms from a mdb file, but do the tables???
[07:52] <m477> can you remember me comend which show me disks ?
[07:53] <m477> also can you tell me how to format disk/
[07:53] <m477> ?
[07:53] <genii> Bah ksivaji is insane
[07:54] <yrg> m477: You just click the drive in the file manager...?
[07:55] <m477> i supoust i dont have it -,-
[07:55] <m477> i need comend in shell
[07:55] <NickPresta> m477, `fdisk -l`
[07:56] <NickPresta> genii, oh really?
[07:56] <yrg> You format disks with mkfs...
[07:56] <m477> NickPresta: thanks
[07:56] <NickPresta> he would probably have been better off to just compile apache/php/mysql from source. it's fairly painless
[07:57] <genii> NickPresta: He has some deep-rooted apt or dpkg problems with his box
[07:58] <m477> NickPresta: ops donest work fdisk -l
[07:58] <NickPresta> m477, what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:58] <genii> NickPresta: This is day 3 of helping him, now he leaves right after i atrt to get somewhere with it, so tomorrow is likely day 4
[07:59] <m477> NickPresta: i wanna see all partisions on disks
[07:59] <m477> NickPresta: to mount it
[07:59] <NickPresta> genii, yeah. He pops in from time to time asking for more help.
[07:59] <yrg> You must "sudo" fdisk
[07:59] <m477> ah
[07:59] <yrg> otherwise it can't open the device
[08:00] <m477> yrg: gr8 m8 thanks
[08:02] <m477> can you tell me how mount ntfs??
[08:02] <m477> or format to fat ?
[08:02] <twosouls82> !ntfs
[08:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:03] <yrg> mkfs -t vfat should work... but that's for fat32...
[08:04] <m477> yrg: is it to format?
[08:04] <genii> It may be mkfs.vfat
[08:04] <yrg> yeah...
[08:05] <m477> yrg: i think doestn work or im missing soemthing
[08:05] <yrg> what does the error message say?
[08:08] <m477> yrg: it isnt error i tihnk Usage: mkfs [-V]  [-t fstype]  [fs-options]  device [size] 
[08:08] <yrg> Have you specified the partition you want to format...
[08:08] <yrg> like "mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1" or something
[08:08] <m477> k
[08:09] <m477> lol
[08:09] <m477> thats all
[08:09] <m477> sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/hdc1
[08:09] <m477> mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[08:11] <m477> yrg: that show me shall
[08:11] <yrg> ...i think that's all it does when it's working...
[08:11] <szachista> hello
[08:12] <szachista> how can i install .deb package, but with all dependecies installed automaticly?
[08:12] <szachista> dpkg -install doesn't install dependencies
[08:12] <ksivaji> szachista dpkg -i ./*.deb
[08:12] <m477> yrg: so u sugest that format is done ?
[08:13] <twosouls82> szachista: install it and run "sudo apt-get -f install" afterwards, this will take care of the deps in most cases
[08:13] <yrg> when command prompt is back and there were no error messages, yes.
[08:13] <szachista> twosouls82: it is not clean way to do things :/
[08:14] <twosouls82> it works like a charm
[08:14] <twosouls82> szachista: not using repo debs isn't clean
[08:14] <yrg> it only works if all the dependencies are in the repos...
[08:14] <twosouls82> yep, true
[08:17] <g2g591> For some reason kwin switches to being the window manager when i run adept. (it switches the window manager from beryl to kwin)
[08:18] <NickPresta> g2g591, then the solution would be not to run adept :-P
[08:19] <NickPresta> g2g591, but seriously, can you reproduce that behaviour every time and which versions of adept/beryl/kde?
[08:19] <m477> yrg: so what i have to do now ?
[08:20] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: or not run beryl ;)
[08:20] <yrg> what do you want to do? mount your newly formatted partition?
[08:20] <NickPresta> that too :P
[08:20] <m477> yrg: maybe it doenst work becouse i dont have mount this aprtition ? ;p
[08:20] <m477> yrg: no i want to format ntfs partiton which isnt mount
[08:20] <yrg> i think it did work.
[08:21] <m477> yrg: so now doesnt
[08:21] <m477> yrg: so how i have to format it?
[08:21] <yrg> so what happened when you did sudo mkfs -t vfat /whatever ?
[08:21] <m477> sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/hdc1
[08:21] <m477> mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[08:21] <m477> that
[08:22] <yrg> hmm... to me, this looks like it did format the disk...
[08:22] <g2g591> it doesn't do it every time
[08:22] <m477> no
[08:22] <g2g591> about once every 3 times or so
[08:22] <yrg> But i'm not 100% sure... and i have no spare disk to try it...
[08:22] <m477> when i write only mfks
[08:22] <m477> bash: mfks: command not found
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> g2g591: hmmm, run beryl from the CMDline, and see if it spitts out an error
[08:23] <g2g591> adept 2.1 on kde 3.5.7
[08:23] <m477> yrg i doesnt format cuz
[08:23] <m477> yrg: /dev/hdc1   *           1         522     4192933+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:24] <yrg> argh... maybe you have to change the partition type first...
[08:24] <g2g591> no errors, but one warning : [Warning ] : Relaunching beryl with __GL_YIELD="NOTHING"
[08:24] <m477> yrg: so what you recomend?
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> hmmm, and then kwin replaces it?
[08:24] <szachista> i was told that if i open deb package in mc and run from it INSTALL file, it will find dependencies automaticly. But is this safe way to do things?
[08:25] <NickPresta> g2g591, the only thing I can think to try is to disable the GL Yield setting
[08:25] <yrg> sudo fdisk /dev/hdc, then type m to find out what the command for changing the system id is...
[08:25] <g2g591> only after about 3 times of opening adept, or another kde specific app
[08:25] <g2g591> any idea how?
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> g2g591: it happens with other apps?
[08:25] <yrg> and then change the system id to fat32. Then mkfs should format it
[08:25] <ksivaji> hi
[08:26] <NickPresta> g2g591, right click on the Beryl icon > Advanced Beryl Options > Disable GL Yield
[08:26] <g2g591> it is already marked
[08:26] <m477> yrg: so i must delate and make new partiton ?
[08:26] <ksivaji>  installed apache but i can process php script
[08:26] <ksivaji> NickPresta :
[08:27] <twosouls82> !lamp
[08:27] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:27] <NickPresta> ksivaji, you can't run PHP scripts via apache?
[08:27] <m477> yrg: i really dont know which option choose
[08:27] <ksivaji> twosouls82 yes
[08:27] <yrg> that'd work to, but it should be enough to change the system ID, so the partition is marked as fat32.
[08:27] <NickPresta> ksivaji, did you add the LoadModule line for mod_php?
[08:27] <m477> yrg: k i got
[08:27] <yrg> Type t for changing the system ID. Then select the partition and b for Fat32
[08:28] <ksivaji> no how to do that
[08:28] <yrg> And then mkfs should work for that partition
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> g2g591: try unmarking it then ;)
[08:28] <ksivaji> NickPresta hope you can solve my problem
[08:29] <NickPresta> ksivaji, did you compile apache from source?
[08:29] <m477> yrg: but still when i write "sudo fdisk -l
[08:29] <ksivaji> NickPresta no i installed using adept
[08:29] <m477> yrg: i got /dev/hdc1   *           1         522     4192933+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:29] <NickPresta> ksivaji, did you install php5 via adept?
[08:29] <ksivaji> NickPresta i can installl apache 1.3 only
[08:29] <ksivaji> ya
[08:30] <yrg> hmm... i think you gotta reboot so that the system knows the partition type...
[08:30] <NickPresta> ksivaji, If you installed apache1.3, I think you're supposed to use PHP4.
[08:30] <yrg> I think there's a message saying so when you exit fdisk with w
[08:30] <yrg> but i'm not 100% sure...
[08:31] <ksivaji> NickPresta but adept  say php is not valid package name
[08:31] <m477> how to exit it
[08:31] <yrg> fdisk?
[08:31] <m477> yrg: all tim
[08:31] <m477> yes
[08:31] <yrg> w if you want to save the changes, q if you don't
[08:32] <NickPresta> ksivaji, oh. it appears feisty only has php5. that's fine
[08:32] <ksivaji>  NickPresta ok tell me how to add module and load
[08:33] <m477> yrg heh now works
[08:33] <makuseru> what are the most common Vector Image file types?
[08:33] <NickPresta> ksivaji, well, you have to install php first. then you need to check your apache config file for the line that looks like "LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so"
[08:34] <NickPresta> makuseru, svg, svgz?
[08:34] <gandhii> maku:  svg, ps, eps, dxf, ai,
[08:34] <makuseru> thank you
[08:35] <m477> yrg: one more thing can you tell me why linux regognize my disk as 4 gb if it is 8 ? o.O
[08:35] <arun> hey kids
[08:35] <sauvin> There's a 'dia' program that works with vector formats; what format is it?
[08:36] <yrg> m477: I don't know... Is it really partitioned to 8 gb?
[08:36] <g2g591> ow that made it freeze
[08:36] <m477> yrg: dunno but there is 1 partiton 4 gb
[08:36] <m477> yrg: maybe i back to fdisk and delate and make new one partition ?
[08:36] <arun> sauvin: SVG?
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> g2g591: sorry...
[08:37] <yrg> hmm... maybe you are mixing up blocks and bytes... try "df -h" to view the partition sizes...
[10:39] <xbesnard> Hello, I face some difficulties to be connected under Kubuntu Feisty with an external dial up modem (BEWAN V92). The connexion starts and after a few minutes, I got a message that the modem hangup with a code 16. I checked the different parametes, options, AT commands, pap/chap. But, I found nothing obvious. Could someone get me information on the error code 16? I put my syslog at this adress: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33178/ . Thank you for your help. Xav
[10:47] <yukino> ola
[10:48] <yeniklasor> How can I scrool down when I launch "top" on terminal ?
[10:49] <jhutchins> yeniklasor: can't.
[10:49] <underdog5004> !htop
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <jhutchins> yeniklasor: All you can do is reconfigure a console so that you have more lines.
[10:49] <yeniklasor> oh ok :(
[10:50] <yrg> or use ps aux and scroll up ;)
[10:50] <underdog5004> or ps aux | less
[10:50] <underdog5004> or ps aug | grep processname
[10:51] <yeniklasor> Thanks worked
[10:52] <yeniklasor> Now how can I install JDK ? On repo isn't working :( Do you know any totorial
[10:55] <Angelus> yo
[10:55] <Angelus> how can i install a theme on kubuntu?
[10:56] <vzduch> !themes | Angelus
[10:56] <ubotu> Angelus: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:57] <Assid> err how do i get apt to have multiple connections while downloading?
[10:57] <Assid> i want to increase the simultanous threads
[10:57] <vzduch> can apt do that?  I know that smart can, but for apt I don't know
[10:57] <Angelus> vzduch: i downloaded the theme, but i dont know how to install since kubuntu doesnt have a theme installer or i dont know where it is
[10:58] <Assid> vzduch: yes it can
[10:59] <Seberus> Hello
[11:00] <Seberus> Ok, Can somebody help me? I
[11:00] <Seberus> I'm completly new to Kubuntu and I just installed it.
[11:06] <danne_> !ask
[11:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:07] <Seberus> I'm completly new to Kubuntu and I just installed it :3 Can someone help me?
[11:07] <Seberus> It seems I cant download any .exe files >_>
[11:07] <LeeJunFan> Seberus: linux doesn't use .exe files.
[11:07] <yrg> Seberus: You can't run exe Files on linux
[11:07] <LeeJunFan> Seberus: those are for windows.
[11:07] <yrg> If you want to install a program, you can use Adept.
[11:07] <LeeJunFan> !adept | Seberus
[11:07] <ubotu> Seberus: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:08] <Seberus> Thank you
[11:08] <yrg> There's a big library of programs you may want or need, and they will be automatically installed
[11:08] <yrg> and the bot know everything better than i do ;)
[11:08] <vzduch> Seberus: what do you want w/ .exe files?
[11:08] <Seberus> Um
[11:08] <Seberus> MSN
[11:08] <Seberus> and games
[11:08] <Seberus> and such
[11:08] <Seberus> e_e
[11:09] <yrg> there's a program called Kopete in Kubuntu
[11:09] <LeeJunFan> Seberus: you'll find games there, for MSN look at kopete.
[11:09] <LeeJunFan> !info kopete
[11:09] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB
[11:09] <yrg> that can connect to MSN and AIM and ICQ and Jabber and...
[11:09] <Seberus> Yeah I ran kopete, then accidently closed it although I saw something to do with MSN, Cant seem to find it again
[11:09] <yrg> Yeeah my download's finished..
[11:10] <yrg> Gotta go play ;)
[11:11] <Seberus> -sighs- How can I connect to MSN through kopete?
[11:13] <LeeJunFan> Seberus: go into settings menu, configure, accounts.
[11:13] <Angelus> hmm somebody knows how colours of windows tabs can be changed?
[11:14] <vzduch> windows tabs?
[11:14] <Angelus> *windows tabs
[11:14] <Angelus> *window
[11:15] <vzduch> still not clear what you mean (at least not to me)
[11:15] <Seberus> Allright, so games, How in the world can I get some? I know where to get the .exe >_> how do I transfer .exe onto Linux?
[11:16] <Angelus> you dont know what a tab in a window is ?
[11:16] <Angelus> :|
[11:16] <vzduch> Seberus: as a rule, you _don't_ run .exe files in Linux unless there's no other option
[11:16] <vzduch> !games
[11:16] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:17] <Seberus> x______X
[11:17] <Angelus> Seberus: go to Adept and Install wine, then with wine you can install .exe files :D
[11:17] <Seberus> REALLY!?!?! :3 Thank you.
[11:17] <Angelus> no proble
[11:17] <Angelus> :p
[11:17] <Seberus> cause I'm like... Adept... -types in a games name- eerrm... did it work? :O
[11:17] <Angelus> but Seberus WARNING: to play windows games on linux you must have at least an Nvidia Graphic ccard
[11:18] <Angelus> Seberus: K menu , System, Adept
[11:18] <Angelus> search for wine
[11:18] <Seberus> Erm...
[11:18] <Angelus> Request Install
[11:18] <Angelus> Apply Changes
[11:18] <Angelus> :p
[11:18] <runlevelten> Seberus: You should be aware that wine provides a tool you _may_ be able to run some windows applications on. It's not a sure thing.
[11:18] <runlevelten> I do play HL2 on it though :)
[11:18] <Seberus> Well I was playing games on a game on windows before linux
[11:18] <Seberus> I understand the whole wine thing thank you ><
[11:19] <Angelus> then you go to console, wine your.exe
[11:19] <Angelus> and should work
[11:19] <Angelus> ok
[11:19] <Seberus> Ok
[11:19] <Angelus> for nothing
[11:19] <Angelus> runlevelten: do you know how to change colour of Tabs ?
[11:19] <Angelus> in kde?
[11:19] <Angelus> :S
[11:20] <runlevelten> Angelus: as far as I'm aware, you'll need to run a style that supports it.
[11:20] <Seberus> Ok so this is a gameing computer :x, Not all games run on it, but most probably do? Dose World of Warcraft run on it?
[11:20] <runlevelten> Yeah
[11:21] <Seberus> Ok, So I typed in Wine, nothing happened >_>
[11:21] <Seberus> And I hit enter too
[11:21] <Seberus> :X
[11:21] <runlevelten> lower case, I assume?
[11:21] <runlevelten> Wine is not wine
[11:21] <pants> hello im having trouble resising my linux partition
[11:22] <Angelus> yeah
[11:22] <runlevelten> wine itself also won't do anything, you do wine <yourapp>
[11:22] <Seberus> Ah x.x
[11:22] <Seberus> Really?
[11:22] <Angelus> yes
[11:22] <Seberus> x.x
[11:22] <Angelus> already told you dude
[11:22] <Angelus> wine yourfilename.exe
[11:22] <Angelus> lol
[11:22] <Angelus> :p
[11:22] <Angelus> thats the command
[11:22] <Angelus> replace yourfilename.exe with your real filename
[11:22] <Angelus> ;p
[11:23] <pants> is it not possible to resise a linux partition?
[11:23] <pants> resize?
[11:23] <runlevelten> Also, once you've got the app running, you do little tweaks to make it run faster - eg: WINEDEBUG=-all; nice -n 20 wine <yourapp>
[11:23] <runlevelten> and so on.
[11:23] <Dragnslcr> pants- I've done it before
[11:23] <Seberus> Allright... so for example... I would type into adept manager "wine gunz.exe" ?
[11:23] <runlevelten> You should look on appdb.winehq.org for apps, compatibility listing, tests by other users, and tips on how to get the best performance
[11:24] <Dragnslcr> pants- GParted/QtParted can do it
[11:24] <Angelus> LOL
[11:24] <Angelus> forget it Seberus
[11:24] <Seberus> e___________e
[11:24] <runlevelten> Seberus: yeah, but check the app on appdb.winehq.org
[11:24] <Angelus> you wont play gunz on linux
[11:24] <Angelus> gunz needs internet explorer
[11:24] <Angelus> :p
[11:24] <Seberus> Erm
[11:24] <runlevelten> not into adept manager
[11:24] <Angelus> oh wait
[11:24] <Seberus> Why?
[11:24] <pants> dragnslcr it's saying it's mountes
[11:24] <runlevelten> into a shell
[11:24] <Seberus> I dont wanna use ijji
[11:24] <Angelus> depends on which edition you have
[11:24] <killown|away> where I found xorg 7.2 source?
[11:24] <Seberus> =.=
[11:24] <Angelus> ahh so its not ijji
[11:24] <Seberus> I allready know.
[11:24] <Angelus> so then it should play
[11:24] <Angelus> :p
[11:24] <Angelus> lol
[11:24] <Dragnslcr> pants- you can't resize a mounted partition
[11:24] <Seberus> I'm not THAT far behind.
[11:24] <Angelus> sorry
[11:24] <Angelus> my bad
[11:25] <vzduch> killown|away: don't know where you found it :D
[11:25] <Seberus> So how do I get teh wine
[11:25] <Angelus> forgive meh
[11:25] <Seberus> if nothing happens when I type in wine
[11:25] <Seberus> ><
[11:25] <Angelus> i already told you
[11:25] <Seberus> or Wine
[11:25] <Angelus> lets repeat then
[11:25] <Seberus> Well I missed it >_>
[11:25] <runlevelten> Seberus: for an up-to-date wine build, go to winehq.org
[11:25] <Seberus> From the top please :X
[11:25] <Angelus> K menu > System, Adept
[11:25] <pants> dragnslcr so i would have to resize it with fdisk?
[11:25] <Seberus> Kay
[11:25] <runlevelten> to install the stock wine, you can use adept.
[11:25] <Angelus> Search for Wine
[11:25] <Seberus> I'm there
[11:25] <Angelus> request install
[11:25] <Angelus> apply changes
[11:25] <Seberus> Kay...
[11:25] <Seberus> Um...
[11:25] <Angelus> that should install wine on your system
[11:26] <Seberus> Wait
[11:26] <Angelus> :p
[11:26] <Dragnslcr> pants- or resize it when it isn't mounted, which is what I would suggest
[11:26] <Seberus> Nothing happened
[11:26] <Seberus> Theres no search results.
[11:26] <Seberus> e.e
[11:26] <runlevelten> you probably didn't check it then.
[11:26] <pants> dragnslcr im new at linux, how can i unmount the hard disk
[11:26] <runlevelten> !wine
[11:26] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:26] <Dragnslcr> pants- is it the one that you're running your system on right now?
[11:27] <pants> dragnslcr yes but i popped in the live CD
[11:27] <Dragnslcr> pants- are you actually running off of the CD?
[11:27] <Dragnslcr> pants- you have to boot from the Live CD to resize the partition that your system is on
[11:27] <pants> dragnslcr yes, there is a install file on the desktop
[11:28] <Dragnslcr> pants- System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks
[11:29] <Dragnslcr> pants- should be able to unmount any mounted disks from there
[11:29] <Seberus> Ugh this is hurting mah brain ;D
[11:29] <pants> dragnslcr ok i see my partitions
[11:29] <runlevelten> heh ;)
[11:29] <parsnip> hi all
[11:29] <parsnip> ive messed up bigtime can anyone help
[11:29] <runlevelten> !ask
[11:29] <Angelus> lol
[11:29] <pants> dragnslcr disable them?
[11:30] <Angelus> the bot needs a technishion
[11:30] <runlevelten> zomflippinGwhere'subotu?
[11:30] <parsnip> i thought i set my audio cds to autorun with kscd but now when i try and open folders, kscd opens
[11:30] <parsnip> can anoyone advise?
[11:30] <Dragnslcr> pants- I believe that should unmount them, yeah
[11:30] <runlevelten> [22:26]  <-- ubotu has left this server (Remote closed the connection).
[11:30] <Angelus> hmm
[11:30] <pants> dragnslcr :/ wont let me even in admin mode
[11:31] <runlevelten> Was it because I said I was installing etch? Did I hurt ubotu's feelings?
[11:31] <runlevelten> :(
[11:31] <Angelus> can anyone tell me how to set the identd on linux
[11:31] <Angelus> since i heard its complicated not like windows buollt in mIRC
[11:31] <Angelus> *built-in
[11:31] <Seberus> Lol xD I hit enter ALOT on the adept thing searching for "wine" ... it closed x.x
[11:31] <Seberus> if I hit enter alot dose it close a window? lol
[11:32] <pants> dragnslcr i can resize the swap i think but not the ext3
[11:32] <vzduch> "windows built-in mIRC"?
[11:32] <runlevelten> what built-in mirc?
[11:32] <Angelus> the identd
[11:32] <Angelus> for IRC
[11:33] <Angelus> its built in on mIRC
[11:33] <parsnip> instead of mIRC, why not use XChat? theres a win32 port and its free
[11:33] <Angelus> on linux you must install something for identd
[11:33] <Angelus> i dont use mIRC
[11:33] <Angelus> :|
[11:33] <runlevelten> ew @ identd.
[11:33] <Angelus> im talking about identd dude
[11:33] <Angelus> how can it be enabled on linux?
[11:33] <vzduch> sudo apt-get install identd
[11:34] <Angelus> ok
[11:34] <Angelus> that will enable identd server ?
[11:34] <Angelus> for irc?
[11:34] <Angelus> :p
[11:34] <eleckttruss> somebody know about X software to send post to my blog?
[11:36] <jhutchins> eleckttruss: Kinda depends on what blog.
[11:36] <Seberus> Allright... Can anybody explain it to me really slowly step by step in slow motion with little tips along the way, how to get this "wine" ?
[11:37] <parsnip> sudo apt-get install wine
[11:37] <Seberus> I'm useing Kubuntu
[11:37] <Tm_T> that's step one
[11:37] <Seberus> And KDE
[11:37] <Tm_T> Seberus: yes
[11:37] <Tm_T> doesn't matter
[11:37] <Tm_T> see what parsnip said
[11:37] <Seberus> Ok so... sudo apt- get install wine? I dont understand a word of that >_>
[11:38] <Seberus> Well actually I understand the last 3 >_>
[11:38] <Tm_T> open Konsole
[11:38] <Seberus> e_e
[11:38] <Seberus> Konsole?
[11:38] <Seberus> Ok got it up
[11:38] <Tm_T> you'll love that black box
[11:38] <tobias_> then type that
[11:38] <draft> selam
[11:38] <tobias_> enter your password, confirm with enter again
[11:38] <eleckttruss> jhutchins: my blog is in blogger
[11:39] <draft> who know turkish  lanunge  :)
[11:39] <tobias_> I definitly dont :)
[11:39] <Seberus> bash: Sudo: command not found
[11:39] <Tm_T> Seberus: small s
[11:39] <tobias_> typo
[11:39] <eleckttruss> jhutchins: so u know any software for that?
[11:39] <tobias_> what he said
[11:40] <draft> my english bad :(
[11:40] <killown|away> how do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?
[11:40] <killown|away> dpkg-buildpackage define for i386
[11:40] <jhutchins> eleckttruss: Dunno if they have linux tools yet.
[11:40] <Seberus> E: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 resource temporarily unavilable)
[11:40] <Tm_T> killown|away: you might like to try #ubuntu-motu
[11:40] <Seberus> then something under it and blah
[11:40] <Tm_T> Seberus: Adept open?
[11:40] <eleckttruss> jhutchins:  thanks
[11:40] <Seberus> yeap
[11:40] <tobias_> adept installer or adept updater ?
[11:41] <tobias_> close it
[11:41] <Tm_T> Seberus: close it
[11:41] <Seberus> Ok
[11:41] <vzduch> !tr | draft
[11:41] <tobias_> then do it again
[11:41] <Seberus> x.x
[11:41] <Tm_T> tobias_: ok, you go on (:
[11:41] <vzduch> damn, no bot :(
[11:41] <tobias_> nono sorry
[11:41] <tobias_> didnt want to disturb you
[11:41] <Tm_T> tobias_: please do
[11:41] <eleckttruss> jhutchins:  do you hace the link of this software?
[11:41] <Seberus> This is confuzzling me, haha, wonder if I'll learn what all this is in time? <_<
[11:41] <draft> i want install kubuntu but dont know edit partion
[11:41] <tobias_> he, okay, sorry =)
[11:41] <draft> vzduch not understand you what you mean?
[11:42] <vzduch> draft: the bot is offline, so this didn't work as expected
[11:42] <tobias_> Seberus: you will, no fear
[11:42] <Seberus> Ok, blah blah blah... reading package lists building dependency tree reading state information...done Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package
[11:42] <Seberus> this may mean the package is missing blah blah blah
[11:42] <Tm_T> Seberus: what?!
[11:43] <tobias_> oO
[11:43] <Tm_T> gah
[11:43] <Seberus> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[11:43] <tobias_> mhhhm
[11:43] <tobias_> 1 sec
[11:44] <leus> how can i upgrade my kde 3.5.6 to 3.5.7 on kubuntu
[11:44] <leus> please
[11:44] <Tm_T> leus: kubuntu.org has instructions, check announcements
[11:44] <tobias_> hmm I dont know why it wont work with Seberus
[11:44] <tobias_> any idea Tm_T
[11:44] <tobias_> ?
[11:44] <Seberus> e__e;
[11:44] <Tm_T> I have plenty
[11:45] <Seberus> Cause I never downloaded the... resource? or something?
[11:45] <Seberus> reposotory?
[11:45] <Tm_T> Seberus: do "sudo apt-get update"
[11:45] <tobias_> actually it works fine with me
[11:45] <jhutchins> !wine
[11:45] <vbgunz> I read up on "Signal 15". I do not have a laptop and my PC temperture is "40 C". I never get "Signal 15" when I am using the computer. Only when I am away and it is very frustrating as it logs me out and it's almost to the point of unbearable :( anyone have any ideas?
[11:45] <draft> vzduch ok  i  am wait a person  for know my lanunge  and sorry  for my bad english
[11:45] <Tm_T> jhutchins: no bot
[11:45] <Tm_T> draft: turkish?
[11:46] <killown|away> how do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?
[11:46] <draft> yes :)
[11:46] <Seberus> blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah... Done
[11:46] <draft> Tm_T you?
[11:46] <Tm_T> Seberus: and try again install part
[11:46] <tobias_> sudo apt-get install wine
[11:46] <Tm_T> draft: no, but try #ubuntu-tk or whatever is your country code
[11:46] <Tm_T> killown|away: tried #ubuntu-motu already?
[11:47] <killown|away> Tm_T, nobody asnwer
[11:47] <Tm_T> killown|away: wait
[11:47] <tobias_> Seberus: worked ?
[11:47] <Tm_T> killown|away: patience is your ally
[11:47] <Seberus> Package wine is not available but is refered to by another package, this may mean that the package is missing blah blah blah
[11:47] <Seberus> Package wine has no installation canidate
[11:47] <Tm_T> killown|away: and strong ally it is </yoda>
[11:47] <Tm_T> Seberus: ok, hold your seat
[11:48] <Seberus> Will do
[11:48] <draft> Tm_T dont know contry code
[11:48] <Seberus> Its your country man! Figure it out! :O
[11:48] <Tm_T> Seberus: hrr, no
[11:48] <Seberus> Go to teh google and type in the denmark country code or something
[11:48] <Tm_T> draft: tk might be it (:
[11:48] <Tm_T> Seberus: hey, that's not very helpful my friend
[11:48] <Seberus> e.e
[11:48] <Seberus> xD
[11:49] <Tm_T> seriously
[11:49] <Tm_T> you wan't my help?
[11:49] <tobias_> it is tr officially
[11:49] <draft> Tm_T but dont have persons
[11:49] <Seberus> I was jokeing around... Meh, I'm seriously sorry for that x.x
[11:49] <Tm_T> draft: then try tr (:
[11:49] <tobias_> Internet TLD
[11:49] <tobias_> .tr
[11:50] <vbgunz> anyone know what "signal 15" is and how to avoid it?
[11:50] <tobias_> sorry, no tme
[11:50] <jhutchins> !bot
[11:50] <Seberus> Yes I badly NEED and want your help Tm_T
[11:50] <draft> Tm_T ok  try again thenk you :)
[11:51] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Signal 15 is SIGTERM
[11:51] <Tm_T> Seberus: coming on your way then (:
[11:51] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Which basically means you need to know more than you've told us so far.
[11:51] <Seberus> Whewt :D
[11:51] <Seberus> x_X
[11:52] <vbgunz> jhutchins: I did, I write again what I said
[11:52] <vbgunz> I read up on "Signal 15". I do not have a laptop and my PC temperture is "40 C". I never get "Signal 15" when I am using the computer. Only when I am away and it is very frustrating as it logs me out and it's almost to the point of unbearable :( anyone have any ideas?
[11:52] <Tm_T> !universe | Seberus
[11:52] <Seberus> o.o
[11:52] <Tm_T> hmm
[11:52] <Seberus> You have expanded me into the universe :D
[11:52] <Seberus> I think?
[11:52] <tobias_> !tell Seberus universe
[11:52] <Tm_T> ubot3: ping
[11:53] <Tm_T> ok he's deaf
[11:53] <tobias_> poor one
[11:53] <Tm_T> haha
[11:53] <tobias_> *sniff*
[11:53] <Seberus> Hey I'm curious, Whats with the whole, red typeing thing?
[11:53] <Seberus> e___e
[11:53] <Seberus> I'm deaf?
[11:53] <Tm_T> Seberus: no, ubot3
[11:53] <tobias_> no, ubot3 is deaf
[11:53] <tobias_> eumm I am always too late
[11:53] <Seberus> And this ubot3 ish?
[11:53] <vbgunz> jhutchins: I mysteriously log out, I don't know why. I checked my messages log and thats the last line I see at the time of logout: "Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly"
[11:53] <Tm_T> Seberus: infobot
[11:53] <vbgunz> jhutchins: right before that line, I see this line: GConf server is not in use, shutting down.
[11:54] <Seberus> O.o
[11:54] <vzduch> !bot
[11:54] <Seberus> That sounds extremly weird VB GunZ o.O
[11:54] <tobias_> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Paketquellen_freischalten <- thats the universe thing in german ._.
[11:54] <Seberus> Like seriously...
[11:54] <Tm_T> tobias_: thanks
[11:54] <vbgunz> Seberus: why, whats up? is it the gconf line or the signal 15 line?
[11:54] <tobias_> but I dont have any idea if Seberus understands it ;)
[11:55] <Seberus> No...
[11:55] <Seberus> Wait I'm not pro
[11:55] <Seberus> e___e
[11:55] <Tm_T> tobias_: he needs universe and then he's good to go, you know how to help him, so I'm off for a moment ;)
[11:55] <Seberus> Dont red talk me VB I'm just saying if your comps not over heating
[11:55] <vbgunz> red talk?
[11:55] <Seberus> I dont even know if thats a over heating message x.x
[11:55] <Seberus> Yah
[11:55] <Seberus> that talk is comeing in red to me
[11:55] <vbgunz> what is that?
[11:55] <Seberus> is it a whisper?
[11:56] <tobias_> no its a highlight
[11:56] <killown|away> how do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?
[11:56] <tobias_> it is whenever your name is in it
[11:56] <vbgunz> it's your client coloring it, not me, probably cause I mentioned your name?
[11:56] <Seberus> Ah
[11:56] <Seberus> Allright then
[11:56] <Seberus> So
[11:56] <Seberus> Universe
[11:56] <eugman|OW_omfg> Hey can you resize panels like in windows with kubuntu?
[11:56] <Seberus> A Universe is?
[11:57] <vbgunz> yeah but my comp is at 40C and I am in another account (my sons) and he doesn't log out? only my main account logs out and it is very frustrating :(
[11:57] <vzduch> resize panels?
[11:57] <tobias_> a thing to make packetsources available
[11:57] <vbgunz> eugman|OW_omfg: yes
[11:57] <vbgunz> right click your panel unlock | configure panel
[11:57] <Seberus> Ya see, I'm saying that sounds really weird, I don't understand whats going on though... isent 40C high? like 80 degrees F?
[11:57] <vzduch> vbgunz: how about just sitting in front of your account doing nothing.. gotta be a reason for such behaviour
[11:58] <vzduch> 40C == 104F
[11:58] <tobias__> hello
[11:58] <vbgunz> vzduch: it is unpredictable. it will log out in 10 minutes, 10 hours or 10 days. I have no idea why it happens. I checked my xorg.log and found no errors.
[11:58] <Seberus> WOWZA
[11:58] <Seberus> x.x
[11:58] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Basically what we know is that something is causing the system to shut down part way.
[11:58] <vzduch> Seberus: not much for CPU temperature
[11:58] <Seberus> Ah
[11:58] <Seberus> Still e__e
[11:59] <eugman|OW_omfg> vbgunz, no I run ubuntu, I justed wanted to know if it might work in KDE.
[11:59] <vzduch> I remember my Athlon XP2000+ running at 56C (~135F)
[11:59] <vzduch> but that was a hot summer ;)
[11:59] <vbgunz> jhutchins: I wish I knew what else to do to figure it out. going through my logs, I spot something suspicious is messages only. the gconf line and the signal 15 line. other than that, while I am in my sons account playing a game with him, I am taken to my login screen... I just log out for some reason :(
[12:00] <eugman|OW_omfg> Any information on KDE vs. Gnome? I've only been using linux for about a year now and up to this point gnome has been sufficient.
[12:00] <Seberus> Can anybody help me get "Universe"? I am deaf.
[12:00] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Do you have a screensaver set up?
[12:00] <tobias_> Seberus: its not that easy
[12:00] <tobias_> Seberus: normally, universe is activated automatically
[12:00] <jhutchins> !repos
[12:00] <Seberus> tobias: Darn
[12:00] <tobias_> Seberus: so i dont know what could be your problem
[12:00] <tobias_> Seberus: it works all fine with me
[12:00] <Seberus> Oh wait
[12:00] <Seberus> Is it cause
[12:00] <Seberus> I havent installed Kubuntu yet?
[12:01] <tobias_> ...
[12:01] <vzduch> o0
[12:01] <Seberus> Im running off the disk
[12:01] <vbgunz> jhutchins: yes, I had an OpenGL screensaver but I never see when quickly switching between accounts. I did change the screensaver to blank as I read somewhere that could cause it. thats a bit upsetting as I liked the other one :/
[12:01] <Seberus> Cause I was afraid of loseing windows e__e
[12:01] <tobias_> Seberus: that could be a reason ._.
[12:01] <Tm_T> Seberus: good call, that's it prolly :p
[12:01] <tobias_> Seberus: by the way
[12:01] <Seberus> SEE? I can be pro e_e
[12:01] <tobias_> Seberus: google for "wubi"
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> eugman|OW_omfg: basically, anything you would EVER want to configure, you can configure in KDE
[12:01] <Seberus> Right away :X
[12:01] <tobias_> it is going to install kubuntu for you without losing windows
[12:02] <tobias_> thats what I did
[12:02] <Seberus> REALLY?
[12:02] <tobias_> you dont need an extra partition or whatever
[12:02] <tobias_> yes
[12:02] <Seberus> Oh mah gawd :X
[12:02] <Seberus> =.=
[12:02] <tobias_> its great
[12:02] <jhutchins> GAH!
[12:02] <Seberus> That is like
[12:02] <Seberus> so wonderfull
[12:02] <jhutchins> No, you don't need anything special to do that.
[12:02] <vbgunz> jhutchins: if it was the screensaver, it really is random, as when I would leave for any amount of time, I would lock the pc. I would come back and find my account either logged or logged out. very wierd as it doesn't happen at any exact time. :(
[12:02] <Phil^> I do so tobias.
[12:02] <Seberus> mah games ><
[12:02] <Phil^> At the moment!
[12:02] <eugman|OW_omfg> Hey what downsides are there to KDE. nosrednaekim, any downsides to KDE?
[12:02] <tobias_> I think its a great tool, really
[12:02] <jhutchins> eugman|OW_omfg: COmpared to what?
[12:03] <Seberus> Ok so hey, I'mma take out the CD  and reset my comp and get Wubi allright?
[12:03] <Phil^> Great Idea to build the IRC-Client on the live cd, so you can chat while installation running ;)
[12:03] <vbgunz> jhutchins: any other log I could possibly be looking into? I've ordered my logs by modified time. any idea?
[12:03] <eugman|OW_omfg> Compared to Gnome? Does evolution work with KDE?
[12:03] <jhutchins> Seberus: Better to just install from the CD.
[12:03] <tobias_> xD haha Phil^ :)
[12:03] <Seberus> What if I wanna keep Windows though? :X
[12:03] <nosrednaekim> eugman|OW_omfg: not really.... maybe a little more advanced to use... POSSIBLY a small performance hit. but if you have semi decent HW, you won't notice it
[12:03] <tobias_> Seberus: read my lines above...
[12:03] <eugman|OW_omfg> I think I might switch to kubuntu but I want to know if there are any cons to consider
[12:03] <jhutchins> eugman|OW_omfg: Well, it can, but there is kde stuff: kdepim, kmail, korganizer
[12:03] <tobias_> Seberus: it wont affect windows in any way
[12:04] <Seberus> I know
[12:04] <Seberus> I was talking to
[12:04] <Phil^> But at the moment i think the partition-tool did a hangup
[12:04] <Seberus> Jhutchins:
[12:04] <Seberus> e_e
[12:04] <Phil^> I dont response since 6 minutes
[12:04] <tobias_> I see
[12:04] <vbgunz> eugman|OW_omfg: I used Ubuntu for over a year. I completely agree with Linus Torvalds. there is a huge difference in being easy to use and *only* easy to use. KDE is easy to use but very chock filled with options when you need em
[12:04] <jhutchins> eugman|OW_omfg: Actually, kde uses about 30% less RAM/CPU than gnome (running native apps).
[12:04] <tobias_> if you wanna install from the CD, you need a new partition
[12:04] <Seberus> Allright well
[12:04] <Seberus> Be are be
[12:04] <Seberus> Partition?
[12:04] <Seberus> That would be?
[12:04] <eleckttruss> algo como gnome-blog pero para kde?
[12:04] <tobias_> partition magic is a program to do so e.g.
[12:04] <vbgunz> eugman|OW_omfg: I find Gnome apps look far superiour on KDE than Vice Versa...
[12:05] <tobias_> you do have c: and d: and those are partitions
[12:05] <eugman|OW_omfg> Well, is there a tool for mocing from evolution to another email app? I've got a lot of email sorted already.
[12:05] <Seberus> Do I need an extra partition for wubi?
[12:05] <tobias_> no
[12:05] <killown|away> how do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?
[12:05] <Seberus> Ah
[12:05] <tobias_> but if you want to install it from the CD
[12:05] <Seberus> For the CD?
[12:05] <Seberus> Ah ok
[12:05] <jhutchins> Seberus: Which is a good reason NOT to use wubi.
[12:05] <tobias_> that's weird Phil^
[12:05] <nosrednaekim> eugman|OW_omfg: you can still use evolution
[12:05] <Seberus> e__e
[12:05] <eugman|OW_omfg> k
[12:05] <Seberus> Jhutchins: What is a good reason NOT to use Wubi?
[12:05] <tobias_> Phil^: Im glad it worked for me ;)
[12:06] <jhutchins> Seberus: Ususally you shrink your windows partition and create a new partition for linux, and a small one for swap.
[12:06] <tobias_> Seberus: that you isntall it on a new partition
[12:06] <eugman|OW_omfg> What do I do to switch? uninstall ubuntu desktop meta package and install kubuntu desktop package?
[12:06] <jhutchins> Seberus: The installer should do that for you.
[12:06] <Seberus> Ahhhhhh x.x
[12:06] <jhutchins> Seberus: You should have a backup of your windows system, but you shouldn't run wubi without a backup either.
[12:06] <Phil^> Hm, I killed the process and prepare my disk manually....good old fdisk :D
[12:06] <tobias_> =)
[12:06] <jhutchins> Seberus: For most people there's no problem, and if you do a "real" install it will work better in the long run.
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> no need to uninstall the ubuntu mta package, just install the kubuntu one
[12:07] <tobias_> the way is the aim
[12:07] <tobias_> or something like that ^^
[12:07] <grendal_prime> ok how do i upgrade from dapper to fiesty?
[12:07] <Seberus> jhutchins: Woot, I'm such a noob, I understand back ups and stuff ;O but don't  I need like a CD to hold the back up for a  back up?
[12:07] <Seberus> jhutchins: Like... a CD to hold blank stuff or w/e...
[12:07] <jhutchins> Seberus: Yeah, possibly more than one.
[12:07] <Tm_T> !ping
[12:07] <jhutchins> Seberus: You really only need stuff you created.
[12:07] <ubotwo> host not found
[12:08] <eugman|OW_omfg> nosrednaekim, that won't cause any conflict?
[12:08] <Tm_T> !universe | Seberus
[12:08] <ubotwo> Seberus: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:08] <jhutchins> Seberus: Software you can just reinstall.
[12:08] <Tm_T> Seberus: there you go
[12:08] <tobias_> but universe is not the problem anymore Tm_T
[12:08] <tobias_> ^^
[12:08] <jhutchins> Tm_T: thanks!
[12:08] <Tm_T> tobias_: I know!
[12:08] <Tm_T> but we got it!
[12:08] <tobias_> true
[12:08] <tobias_> you're great :D
[12:08] <Tm_T> WOOHHOO!
[12:08] <jhutchins> Tm_T: Need to get more ops bot priviliges.
[12:08] <Tm_T> jhutchins: ?
[12:08] <grendal_prime> can i do a direct dist upgrade or do i need to go through the edg upgrade first
[12:08] <Phil^> I am the only guy chatting while installation with the Feisty Live-CD?
[12:09] <Seberus> jhutchins: The only problem is I want games, If I didn't play games >_> Then I would be happy with it, so I need my windows too
[12:09] <nosrednaekim> eugman|OW_omfg: no, not at all... you can choose between KDE and Gnome at each login
[12:09] <Seberus> Whatd we get? :O
[12:09] <Seberus> Am I in universe?
[12:09] <Tm_T> Seberus: you can have both, really?
[12:09] <jhutchins> Seberus: Yeah, it's good to have both when you first start out.
[12:09] <Seberus> Tm_T: Supposedly... e__e with Wubi
[12:09] <eugman|OW_omfg> Well I will give it a try
[12:09] <jhutchins> Seberus: I still have my windows partition on this box, even though it won't boot any more with my newer hardware.
[12:09] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade | grendal_prime
[12:09] <ubotwo> grendal_prime: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:10] <jhutchins> Seberus: I have a couple of apps that I run from that install still in Linux.
[12:10] <Seberus> Well, I'mma give it a try... e__e
[12:10] <tobias_> I hope you wont regret it
[12:10] <tobias_> =)
[12:10] <jhutchins> Seberus: Experience is proportional to data destroyed!
[12:10] <Seberus> Ok well I'm off, before I get confused... Install wubi, and that should.... have linux in it?
[12:10] <tobias_> jhutchins: dam I must be fu**ing experienced ;D
[12:11] <Seberus> in a ubuntu form?
[12:11] <jhutchins> tobias_: I know i am.
[12:11] <tobias_> Seberus: its just a little tool
[12:11] <Tm_T> weird, I never had losed data
[12:11] <tobias_> Seberus: but it will download the kubuntu for you
[12:11] <Tm_T> I'm not experienced then?
[12:11] <tobias_> Seberus: or ubuntu or whatever you want
[12:11] <tobias_> Tm_T: you are off the hook already, thats why ... :s
[12:11] <tobias_> off the scale should match it better though
[12:11] <tobias_> ._.
[12:12] <Tm_T> tobias_: yeah, comes with my age I guess, 100+
[12:12] <tobias_> =)
[12:12] <tobias_> alright then - good night everyone, see you sooner or later
[12:12] <Tm_T> night
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> eugman|OW_omfg: alrighty!
[12:13] <MaximLevitsky> Is there at least a workaround for kubuntu sudo problems?
[12:13] <Tm_T> MaximLevitsky: what sudo problems?
[12:14] <MaximLevitsky> I mean kdesu that hangs
[12:14] <Tm_T> never seen that
[12:14] <Tm_T> what about kdesudo?
[12:14] <aguitel> how i know my video driver card ?
[12:14] <MaximLevitsky> and annying "kdeinit: can't start blabla"
[12:14] <Phil^> Someone told me, the a Problem is sitting always 1-2 Meters in in front of the PC
[12:15] <MaximLevitsky> Tm_T  , I don't have kdesudo
[12:15] <jenny_> Cant get wine to run junosetup.exe
[12:15] <Tm_T> ubot3: welcome back
[12:15] <jenny_> any ideas?
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> ther is no such thing as kdesudo
[12:15] <Tm_T> there is
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> jenny_: #winehq
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> or #wine I think.
[12:15] <ubot3> Factoid welcome back not found
[12:15] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[12:15] <ubotwo> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo