| Innatech | so, I can't make much headway w/just a busybox shell--or, at least, I don't see how. Is there a better way for me to get dmraid going during a server install? | 12:12 |
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| leonel | didn't had noticed before .. Feisty server has universe enabled by default | 01:01 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 01:02 |
| ScottK | It was by design. | 01:02 |
| ScottK | Only for new installs. | 01:02 |
| mathiaz | ScottK: but also for server ? | 01:03 |
| ScottK | mathiaz: I don't think it was specified, it was for everything. | 01:03 |
| ScottK | Why would server be different? | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: I was thinking that I was only going to be turned on for the desktop cd | 01:03 |
| leonel | I saw a bug report today about the same for gutsy being triaged | 01:03 |
| === ScottK marked it invalid and now mathiaz and I can argue. | ||
| leonel | :) | 01:03 |
| === ScottK was waiting for it to come up. | ||
| leonel | but checking there's nothing installed from universe | 01:04 |
| ScottK | Let me see if I can find the spec. | 01:04 |
| mathiaz | I was just surprised when I tested the latest iso for tribe-4. | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | ScottK: I think that a server should only have packages available from the supported repositories by default :) | 01:04 |
| leonel | well I've selected only DNS | 01:04 |
| ScottK | ajmitch: Why is it different than a Desktop that also has support contract issues? | 01:04 |
| mathiaz | the reason it suprised me at first was that universe is not supported | 01:06 |
| mathiaz | and main is supported | 01:06 |
| mathiaz | so when I install a server for a production environement I don't want to install any stuff from universe. | 01:06 |
| leonel | this is the greatest from ubuntu .. we can support universe ;) | 01:06 |
| mathiaz | which could happened if universe is enabled by default. | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | leonel: not in the sense of a support contract, unless it's by !canonical | 01:07 |
| leonel | ajmitch: I know | 01:07 |
| mathiaz | on the other hand, I've read and heard a lot of time that if you need to enable universe any way to be able to install something. | 01:07 |
| leonel | and that was the same thing that keep me from installing ubuntu as server | 01:07 |
| leonel | and now that I can help to support universe things have changed for me | 01:08 |
| mathiaz | /id// | 01:08 |
| mathiaz | /if// | 01:08 |
| ScottK | Here's the spec https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse. Gotta run. | 01:08 |
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| ajmitch | we're trying to get away from php 4 as fast as possible :) | 01:08 |
| mathiaz | I don't have strong opinion about it... Just suprised and asked around. | 01:08 |
| ajmitch | all those use cases are for (home) desktop users, too | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | for a server I'd always err on the side of caution & not enable it | 01:09 |
| mathiaz | ajmitch: agreed. I've just had a quick look at it. | 01:10 |
| mathiaz | and it's clearly targeted toward desktop users (in which case I agree). | 01:11 |
| mathiaz | there is a small section about the command line changes. | 01:11 |
| mathiaz | and it hasn't been implemented yet. | 01:12 |
| leonel | is there any news about the servers down in ubuntu I mean doc.ubuntu.com and how got compromised ? | 01:19 |
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| jpowermacg4 | Anyone know the EASIEST!!! way to install a Postfix and Courier - Email System, Where I can make user accounts and actually log in? | 01:20 |
| leonel | jpowermacg4: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06 | 01:21 |
| jpowermacg4 | i did the one for 7.04 | 01:21 |
| jpowermacg4 | and it didn't work unfortunately | 01:21 |
| jpowermacg4 | ISPConfig wasn't able to be installed | 01:21 |
| jpowermacg4 | stupid php mod error | 01:21 |
| mathiaz | jpowermacg4: did you have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer ? | 01:23 |
| jpowermacg4 | nope... i looked at... | 01:24 |
| jpowermacg4 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto | 01:24 |
| mathiaz | jpowermacg4: there is also the ubuntu server guide with a mail section: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/email-services.html | 01:24 |
| jpowermacg4 | and | 01:24 |
| jpowermacg4 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto | 01:24 |
| jpowermacg4 | ok i'll try that last one mathiaz | 01:24 |
| jpowermacg4 | lemme --purge all this stuff LOL | 01:25 |
| jpowermacg4 | ok i'll try this and see.. looks like a diff setup.. hope this time it works. | 01:27 |
| mathiaz | jpowermacg4: give it a try. And you find some mistakes in the documents, don't hesitate to correct them. | 01:28 |
| mathiaz | jpowermacg4: these are wiki pages. | 01:28 |
| jpowermacg4 | ok... i been trying.. i been looking at 6 articles so far.. only seen 1 i had to correct.. and then even then i didn't know nothing about the mysql i setup.. because the ubuntu wiki was lacking some info the other was.. so maybe this one for 7.04 work | 01:29 |
| jpowermacg4 | Glad I'm setting this up on a deb system though... nothing like apt-get --purge remove postfix* courier* and whatever* and cleaning up /etc/ if anything left behind and starting fresh.. LOL | 01:31 |
| jpowermacg4 | gosh.. already missing the /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf ... hmmm.. | 01:33 |
| jpowermacg4 | ok new file it is i guess | 01:34 |
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| jbrouhard | howdy all | 02:02 |
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| jpowermacg4 | gosh the wiki sucked... LOL | 02:45 |
| jpowermacg4 | Anyone know the EASIEST!!! way to install a Postfix and Courier - Email System, Where I can make user accounts and actually log in? | 02:47 |
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| dthacker | jpowermacg4: There's a very easy howto on howtoforge.com. If you wait a minute I'll grab you a link. | 03:07 |
| jpowermacg4 | i've done that howto on that site | 03:09 |
| jpowermacg4 | ISPConfig fails to install though | 03:09 |
| dthacker | http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier_ubuntu_edgy | 03:10 |
| === dthacker doesn't use ISPConfig | ||
| Janet32766 | anyone have any clues for me? ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000 #gives: SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument | 03:10 |
| jpowermacg4 | i assume u running a postfix and courier? | 03:10 |
| dthacker | yep | 03:10 |
| dthacker | 6 virtual domains | 03:11 |
| jpowermacg4 | ok maybe this one will work better than the one for ubuntu-server 7.04 with ISPConfig | 03:11 |
| jpowermacg4 | dt.. i had did this whole thing.. http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704 | 03:12 |
| jpowermacg4 | but it failed on ISPConfig.. lol | 03:12 |
| jpowermacg4 | so i purged it all | 03:12 |
| dthacker | what was ISP Config's problem? | 03:12 |
| jpowermacg4 | mod php | 03:12 |
| dthacker | Janet32766: I'm googling.... | 03:13 |
| jpowermacg4 | said mod php not compatible with the system or something.. lol | 03:13 |
| dthacker | that's just a package and an apache edit. Minor hacking | 03:13 |
| jpowermacg4 | yeah.. but postfix didn't work at all when i did it.. lol | 03:13 |
| jpowermacg4 | or anything at all | 03:14 |
| jpowermacg4 | SMTP wasn't capable of sending a e-mail from telnet.. when i run the commands like MAIL FROM: x@x.com.. it never responded 250. LOL | 03:14 |
| jpowermacg4 | i dunno what was up, with that.. but that so far is running now.... but obviously no users | 03:15 |
| dthacker | Janet32766: the mtu number could be out of range. My eth0 is set to 1500 now and when I run that command with 1500 it returns without error. | 03:15 |
| jpowermacg4 | janet .. you can't tell eth0 to give you a mtu of more than 1500 | 03:16 |
| jpowermacg4 | at least.. i havn't figured it out myself. | 03:16 |
| Janet32766 | dthacker, maybe ubuntu didn't pick the best driver for my gigabit ethernet card.... thanks :) | 03:16 |
| jpowermacg4 | janet are you getting mtu errors with 1500? | 03:17 |
| dthacker | Janet32766: could be. Try a search for your card/driver combo in the forums. | 03:17 |
| Janet32766 | 1500 works | 03:18 |
| Janet32766 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101117 | 03:18 |
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| dthacker | Janet32766: yes, I've experienced that slowdown in production with a mismatched switch ;) | 03:21 |
| dthacker | are you using the same card as the forum author? | 03:21 |
| Janet32766 | no, it is an integrated device in my dell server (broadcom) | 03:22 |
| dthacker | Janet32766: I'm afraid you're in for trial and error unless your research finds someone using your NIC successfully with a different driver. | 03:24 |
| dthacker | hmm, what would SLES do. I've got a dell with that installed at work. | 03:25 |
| jpowermacg4 | dthacker you here often? | 03:27 |
| jpowermacg4 | i'm a little too busy to start the setup right now.. lol | 03:28 |
| dthacker | I stop by most evenings | 03:28 |
| jpowermacg4 | cool.. hope to see you hear if it doesn't work.. lol | 03:28 |
| jpowermacg4 | i think yours might work though.. it's 7 pages of e-mail setup.. lol.. or 6.. lol | 03:29 |
| dthacker | I'd post to the forums on howtoforge. they answered my questions within a day. | 03:29 |
| jpowermacg4 | so did the setup pretty much fully set it up without any issues? | 03:30 |
| jpowermacg4 | does it tell you how to setup the users and all that at least? | 03:31 |
| jpowermacg4 | that info seems to be lacking from everything i've done.. lol | 03:32 |
| nealmcb | Janet32766: Thanks for a link to an interesting forum thread. Exactly what device are you using (lspci -vv)? you might want to post your experiences on the forum thread. | 03:35 |
| dthacker | jpowermacg4: Yes, it goes right into data entry through phpMyAdmin. | 03:39 |
| jpowermacg4 | ok i've had one that did input to mysql.. but it was sloppy.. lol.. and didn't work at all with the info.. LOL. | 03:40 |
| jpowermacg4 | i even installed squirrelmail to do a "localhost" type connection cause i thought it was blocking externels.. but was no help.. but it was a ubuntu wiki that's not accurate i did it from. | 03:41 |
| jpowermacg4 | i do like this guys how to's though... so maybe his will work for this better. | 03:42 |
| Janet32766 | nealmcb, it's a Broadcom 5754 NetXtreme, do you know how can i verify the tg3 driver is associated with this card? | 03:58 |
| nealmcb | Janet32766: the output of lspci -vvn may also be helpful | 03:59 |
| nealmcb | and do lsmod to see which modules are in use | 03:59 |
| nealmcb | dmesg may also be of use | 04:00 |
| Janet32766 | lsmod shows tg3... | 04:00 |
| nealmcb | Janet32766: the howto was done with skge drivers - I don't suppose those work with your card?? But I'm afraid I don't have any of the above equipment and that's about all I can suggest - post to the forum and see if readers can help. | 04:14 |
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| jpowermacg4 | nice... Ex-Chat.. lol | 05:19 |
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| ScottK | jpowermacg4: For Postfix setups, when I was first learning and still when I try something new, I find "The Book of Postfix" invaluable. | 05:33 |
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| jpowermacg4 | ScottK where is that located? and i'm just about to start this thing dthacker said | 05:55 |
| ScottK | jpowermacg4: The book's web site is here: http://www.postfix-book.com/ but it's an actual dead tree book. It's also the best Postfix reference I've found yet. | 05:57 |
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| etam | Does anyone have experience with DL360 G1 with DLT | 06:51 |
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| etam | Does anyone have experience with DL360 G1 with DLT | 07:15 |
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| ScottK | etam: This is the quietest period of the day for this channel. | 07:24 |
| ScottK | Trying again US AM/European PM is you best bet. | 07:25 |
| etam | Tks ScottK | 07:27 |
| jpowermacg4 | dthacker you there? | 07:44 |
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| kraut | moin | 08:11 |
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| stiv2k | hey | 08:50 |
| stiv2k | what command can i use from within a PHP script to get the version numbers and status (up/down) of services like apache and such...? | 08:51 |
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| coNP | Easiest way to dump everything is to invoke phpinfo() | 08:54 |
| stiv2k | nah but i mean | 09:00 |
| stiv2k | i want to make a page showing the version of apache, whether its up or down, then other services | 09:00 |
| stiv2k | like mysql, ircd, sshd | 09:00 |
| stiv2k | all the crap on my server | 09:00 |
| stiv2k | iirc, phpinfo() doesnt give all taht | 09:00 |
| coNP | stiv2k: if apache is down you won't get the page :) | 09:02 |
| stiv2k | yeah | 09:03 |
| stiv2k | but i just want to try and do it anyways | 09:03 |
| coNP | You might work with external calls. Some initscripts can give a "status" that shows if they are up. You can also use some ad-hoc diagnosis (e.g., telnet to the specific port) or base your results on an existing monitoring tool (e.g. munin is simple and straightforward). I would use the latter. | 09:04 |
| infinity | apache2ctl status, mysqladmin version, sshd has no status reporting, so just a ps | grep might be all you've got there (and a test if port 22 is open), same with ircd. | 09:09 |
| infinity | mysqladmin version can dump stuff like: | 09:10 |
| infinity | Server version 4.0.20-log | 09:10 |
| infinity | Protocol version 10 | 09:10 |
| infinity | Connection Localhost via UNIX socket | 09:10 |
| infinity | UNIX socket /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock | 09:10 |
| infinity | Uptime: 799 days 9 min 31 sec | 09:10 |
| infinity | Threads: 1 Questions: 30101170 Slow queries: 2023 Opens: 195335 Flush tables: 1 Open tables: 64 Queries per second avg: 0.436 | 09:10 |
| juliux | morning | 09:11 |
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| === jpowermacg4 is away: thanks dthacker | ||
| === jpowermacg4 is away: thanks dthacker it worked | ||
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| ivoks | man, aren't we blind, or what... :) | 11:45 |
| ivoks | we have partman-auto-raid already in ubuntu | 11:45 |
| ivoks | just, it's in universe :/ | 11:45 |
| fabbione | ivoks: it's only raid preseeding afaik | 11:49 |
| ivoks | recipe for partman | 11:50 |
| ivoks | this is what was requested at last meeting | 11:50 |
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| coNP | Hey! I did some security patches for lighttpd. | 02:41 |
| coNP | Anyone running dapper / edgy / feisty and lighttpd please help test them. | 02:41 |
| coNP | Debdiffs for these targets are available (bug 127718) | 02:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127718 in lighttpd "lighttpd security fixes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127718 | 02:42 |
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| Elazar | I'm trying to configure MySQL such that the lower_case_table_names setting is 2. I've tried creating a custom file in /etc/mysql/conf.d, I've tried editing the my.cnf file directly, and I've restarted mysql after each attempt, but it just doesn't seem to see the setting change. Any suggestions? | 06:12 |
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| ekimus | hello, i'm on 6.06 LTS normally using debian. now i need a mailer that can send to my smarthost. nullmailer is what I use normall but that is broken any hints? | 07:17 |
| ekimus | s/normall/normally | 07:18 |
| ScottK | Postfix can be configured to send through a smarthost, but may be overkill in your case. | 07:19 |
| ekimus | that is why i normally use nullmailer. our 3 postfixes are configured properly and i just would like some simple mta that i don't have to care about... | 07:20 |
| ScottK | IIRC sending through a smarthost is one of the Debian config options and so trivially easy to configure (unlike more complex Postfix setups). | 07:22 |
| ekimus | hmm msmtp doesn't provie mail-transport-agent. that would brake a hell lot of dependencies.... | 07:22 |
| ekimus | ha! ssmtp seems to work... now i gotta wait until all the cronjobs run to see how it behaves with a lot of messages. | 07:31 |
| ekimus | thanks anyway... | 07:31 |
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| Elazar | I'm trying to configure MySQL such that the lower_case_table_names setting is 2. I've tried creating a custom file in /etc/mysql/conf.d, I've tried editing the my.cnf file directly, and I've restarted mysql after each attempt, but it just doesn't seem to see the setting change. Any suggestions? | 07:40 |
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| stiv2k | what commands can i use to fetch the version of certain packages (like, have it return ONLY the version number in the result) and a way to check the status of certain services running on the machine? | 08:32 |
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