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Tm_TRiddell: we got a bot (:12:37
Tm_Tbug 112:37
ubot3Malone bug 1 in jl "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112:37
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kwwiistupid bad boring bot12:41
jeroenvrpwill update process has begun12:49
jeroenvrpis it known that when updating "from" feisty with adept, it still says at the top "Upgrading Kubuntu to Version 7.04" << that should be 7.1012:50
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nixternalmhb: nice post!01:11
mhbnixternal: thanks! I never thought somebody would actually read it :o)01:12
nixternalof course I read it..and man I would love a KDE frontend to Gimp01:12
mhbnixternal: (re)writing portable code is exactly what I've been doing this summer of code01:12
nixternalthere is a patch or a simple hack though that gives you that I thought01:12
nixternalwhew, I just cleaned out my computer area..I just have my main desk to go now01:13
nixternalI found books that I need to get on Amazon01:13
mhbnixternal: which ones?01:13
nixternaltext books...no good coding ones01:13
mhbnixternal: you should be happy, being American, you can get almost all books for a decent price on the net01:17
nixternalya, that is pretty good... I am waiting for the 2 new Qt4 books to hit Amazon so I can buy them01:18
mhbnixternal: we Europeans (especially the Central and Eastern) would have to pay double the usual book price to get them01:18
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jeroenvrpgrr the update crashed01:20
mhbjeroenvrp: that's not a bad thing :o)01:21
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mhbjeroenvrp: you can now file a bug so it gets fixed before the final release, and that's a good thing!01:21
jeroenvrpmhb: well, should I relaunch it01:21
jeroenvrpyeah but the traceback is gone01:21
mhbis it? aww01:22
mhbjeroenvrp: do you know at which stage it crashed?01:22
mhbjeroenvrp: file a bug and try to add as many information as you can remember01:22
jeroenvrpit crashed just after downloading01:22
mhbjeroenvrp: if it's not just a temporary crash bug, other people will fill more data about it01:23
jeroenvrpmhb: ok, I relaunched the updater01:24
jeroenvrpand it skips feitching, thats good - lets see01:24
jeroenvrpit seems to continue without crashing now01:24
jeroenvrpmhb: I can fill a bug, but I really dont know any details01:25
jeroenvrpso maybe just wait on someone else, so I can confirm01:25
mhbjeroenvrp: file a bug now01:28
mhbjeroenvrp: if nobody will confirm it we'll just close it after final Gutsy or something01:28
jeroenvrpmhb: ok, after the system has been updated01:28
mhbjeroenvrp: believe me, it's always better to fill a bug than to keep it to yourself01:28
jeroenvrpi know,01:28
nixternalooh, just bought danimo's Qt book, and the other new Qt4 book (foundations)...man, Amazon is pretty darn cheap01:30
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mhbnixternal: heh, judging from the first comment on my blog, people seem to have problems with taking advice from a nobody :o)01:51
Tm_Tmhb: what, hwere01:53
mhbTm_T: just a comment to my blog post at planet.ubuntu.com (http://mhb.ath.cx/blog/english/write-reusable-code/ is the direct link, if you go crazy and want to read it :o). It's just an off-topic note, I can't really stay on topic at 2:00 am :o)01:56
Tm_Tyeah, that was my intention01:56
Tm_Tand ignore that first comment, it's BS01:58
Tm_Tand I don't mean BrainStorming01:58
mhbTm_T: hehe, right. He's partially right in me being nobody, but the advice was meant well and that's what counts.01:59
Tm_Twell, you are not nobody if you write blog02:00
Tm_Tor be developer of any kind02:00
Tm_Tor be active in any other way02:01
nosrednaekimmhb: I totally agree with you too!02:01
nosrednaekimwho cares if you are a relative "nobody"02:01
Tm_The doesn't know you, so not02:02
Tm_Tdoesn't matter02:02
mhbnosrednaekim: thanks :o)02:02
mhblet's get back to work, shall we? :o)02:03
Tm_Twhat work?02:03
Tm_Twe have work?!02:03
mhbTm_T: I do, don't you? :o)02:03
Tm_Tah, you have, yes, do your work, shush!02:03
nosrednaekimdoing what? separating amarok from its frontend ;)02:03
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mhbnosrednaekim: hehe :o) I don't think it's possible anymore ... if you don't start your project with more frontends in mind, it would take many man-hours to make it so02:04
mhbnosrednaekim: it is with small Python projects, but not the larger ones02:05
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nosrednaekimI guess Exaile is a total rewrite then.02:15
nosrednaekimin fact... it is because its in python.02:15
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nosrednaekimmhb: where is your code repository for the restricted-manager?02:23
mhbnosrednaekim: it's currently merged with restricted-manager trunk02:32
mhbnosrednaekim: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/restricted-manager/trunk02:32
nosrednaekimah ok, I just wanted to see if it worked on fiesty ;)02:32
mhbnosrednaekim: if you manage to install the new version of restricted-manager, it might02:33
mhbnosrednaekim: but restricted-manager has been updated for gutsy with more driver handlers and so on02:34
nosrednaekimsounds like a challenge :)02:34
nosrednaekimhmm trying to find a gutsy .deb02:37
nosrednaekimfound a tar... that should work.02:39
nosrednaekimnot to be a bother or anything mhb, if you are busy, just say so, but how do you install this restrictedmanager tar.gz file?02:48
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jeroenvrpwell when openoffice-gnome and openoffice-kde are installed all looks and works fine :-)02:53
jeroenvrpand fast\102:53
mhbnosrednaekim: not sure, why didn't you check out the code from the page I gave you?02:59
mhbnosrednaekim: "bzr co http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/restricted-manager/trunk "03:00
nosrednaekimI found the debs, and installed them, and it works on fiesty!03:11
jeroenvrpheh where is mplayer :-(03:18
mhbnosrednaekim: that's great03:23
nosrednaekimmhb: yep, and I would get that bazzaar code except I don't have bzr and my mirror just crapped out. have to switch to a new mirror.03:25
jeroenvrpalso not with aptitude, so it seems aptitude gives no error on multiverse, but doesnt download the package list03:32
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | anyone want to help port kde/qt to lpia - Low Power on Intel Architecture? | Tribe 4 Released
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nixternalRiddell: when you get a chance, I need a "giveback" on the last kvkbd upload from yesterday (0.4.5-0ubuntu1). It FTBS on everything but i386 and it was due to broken kdelibs4-dev deps which seem to be fixed now..I just built it successfully in my PPA08:18
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Riddellnixternal: nothing I can do about that10:56
Riddellnixternal: infinity has given back11:00
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_StefanS_Riddell: is anyone looking into that KDE vs. openoffice thing at the moment ?11:42
Riddell_StefanS_: hopefully calc is11:42
_StefanS_Riddell: anyways.. there's also gtk issues with acroread11:43
Riddell_StefanS_: suse says there's issues with opera too, are you able to test that?11:45
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_StefanS_Riddell: opera works11:50
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_StefanS_Riddell: uhm well I cant see the contents of the menus actually..12:18
_StefanS_Riddell: in opera12:18
_StefanS_Riddell: I just get only the outline, and nothing else... kinda wierd.12:18
stdin_StefanS_: I see menus in opera, what version?12:22
_StefanS_stdin: 9.2212:23
_StefanS_stdin: from opera.com, but the ubuntu one had the same issues12:23
_StefanS_stdin: when you run it from commandline, do you get a few errors about libawt.so and libjvm.so ?12:23
_StefanS_stdin: could be unrelated to gtk.. but not sure12:24
_StefanS_Riddell: ^ ?12:24
stdinI have 9.21 works fine, but I do get that LD_PRELOAD error, and for libjvm.so12:24
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_StefanS_:) oops12:29
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_StefanS_stdin: regarding that OOo issue.. try to install at-spi12:32
stdinwhat's that?12:33
_StefanS_stdin: something to do with gnome.. found something in a post from mandriva with same issue12:33
_StefanS_stdin: nah I was wrong. Dont fix anything at all. Just forget it12:34
stdinooh, that was close :p12:34
stdindpkg was just about to start then12:35
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stdin_StefanS_: it does seem to work one oo.o-gnome is installed (which depended on at-spi, libatspi1.0-0 and libxevie1)12:40
_StefanS_ah ..12:41
_StefanS_installing at-spi by itself complains about missing libxevie112:41
stdintried removing oo.o-gnome and installing at-spi and libxevie1, it doesn't work, reinstalling oo.o-gnome works tho???12:45
_StefanS_uhm mine works with only openoffice.org-gtk12:46
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stdinI have both12:46
morphirRiddell: ping12:46
Riddellhi morphir12:51
Riddellnixternal: kvkbd built12:53
Riddelland strigi, yay12:53
morphirRiddell: I going trough the source of the graphical installer as we speak12:53
morphirRiddell: are you using the same installer for kubuntu as the one being used in ubuntu?12:54
Riddellmorphir: yes, different frontends but all part of the same package12:55
morphircool, is this a qt frontend?12:55
Riddellmorphir: the translations are the same12:55
Riddellyes, pyqt 412:55
morphirok, cool12:56
morphirRiddell: will there be a konsole output during install in gutsy?12:56
Riddellof the installer?  no12:57
Riddellit outputs to /var/log/installer/*12:57
morphirRiddell: if recall correctly when installing kubuntu feisty, the konsole window popped up in verbose mode12:59
morphirif I recall that is12:59
Riddellubiquity has never used a console12:59
Riddellthe dist upgrader does12:59
morphirso that was the case01:00
_StefanS_Riddell: is the battery monitor ready for gutsy.. kde-guidance, isn't it?01:01
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Riddell_StefanS_: kde-guidance-powermanager hasn't changed01:14
Riddell_StefanS_: I'd like to see it ported to qt 4 and someone did start it but I believe it's not really usable01:15
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twosouls82hi there01:20
Riddellhi twosouls8201:20
twosouls82Riddell: thanks for bringing the K to Ubuntu :)01:21
Riddellyou're welcome.  of course there's plenty others who do it too01:21
twosouls82Riddell: I meant, for starting this all01:21
twosouls82you couldn't have done it alone01:21
_StefanS_Riddell: maybe I could assist in the porting then.. is there any new features required ?01:22
_StefanS_Riddell: or just a straight port . ?01:22
twosouls82when I run konsole from kde4 beta 1, like suggested on the news page (either with the exports or in Xephyr), I get this error: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server01:22
Riddell_StefanS_: no new features, just needs to be adapted to pyqt 4, remove the KDE classes, python-dbus (which means it can listen for signals hopefully, not poll them)01:23
twosouls82tried launching dbus manually, but no luck01:23
Riddell_StefanS_: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/utils/guidance/powermanager/01:23
Riddellgive that a shot, let me know if it works at all ( sebas says it doesn't really, but it's something to start from)01:23
Riddelltwosouls82: install dbus-x11 ?01:24
_StefanS_Riddell: isn't it kde4's repo you gave me there?01:24
twosouls82Riddell: No candidate version found for dbus-x1101:24
Riddell_StefanS_: yes01:24
Riddelltwosouls82: do you have dbus-launch  installed?01:25
_StefanS_Riddell: but its needs to work in 3.5.7.. right?01:25
twosouls82yepper, that's what I used to launch it manually01:25
twosouls82Riddell: -^01:25
Riddell_StefanS_: well it just uses qt 401:26
_StefanS_Riddell: oh, I get it.. so only deps should be qt4 then.. and not both kde/qt3 like it is now.01:26
_StefanS_got it.01:26
_StefanS_I will take a look.01:26
Riddellqt 4 provides everything needed, systray applet and popup widget and stuff01:26
twosouls82Riddell: having qtcurve in the repos (for gutsy) would be nice; hence the qt3/qt4 mixture01:27
Hobbseegtk2-engines-qtcurve - This is a set of widget styles for Gtk2 based apps01:28
Hobbseekde-style-klearlook - Clone of GNOME's Clearlooks theme for KDE01:28
Hobbseekde-style-qtcurve - This is a set of widget styles for KDE3 based apps01:28
Hobbseekde4-style-qtcurve - Unified widget style for KDE and GTK+01:28
twosouls82old news =)01:28
twosouls82Hobbsee: nevermind (yep those)01:29
sebasFor powermanager, we should stick with the Qt3 version and move to kpowersave for KDE4.01:29
sebasTHat's what I discussed with Danny Kukawka in Glasgow01:29
sebasSo bugfixes should go into branch01:29
sebasI don't think porting to PyQt4 is the right direction forward.01:32
sebasAnd I had enough beer with Danny so we're on the same line :P01:32
mhbsebas: hi, IMHO you probably should publish info about such discussions on the net .o) or was it published somewhere?01:33
Riddell_StefanS_: ^^  so maybe not worth it01:36
Riddellof course powersave still has the worst UI ever, but that's fixable01:37
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_StefanS_Riddell: so .. what now ? :)01:43
mhb_StefanS_: looking for a project?01:43
_StefanS_mhb: well yes, since kdesudo is stranded on a MIR, and Tonio_ isnt around for fade testing.01:43
Riddellscript daily kde 4 snapshot compiles in a ppa01:44
Riddellport ldm and/or thin-client-manager to qt401:44
Riddellpackage qt jambi01:45
HobbseeRiddell: daily?  cprov would kill you01:45
HobbseeRiddell: but weekly would be good01:45
_StefanS_Riddell: I would like to take a go at ldm.. its the ltsp login manager, right ?01:46
Riddellyes, it is01:46
Riddellit's c++ now I believe01:46
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_StefanS_Riddell: alright.. and it should just look the same i reckon.01:47
Riddellwell, some kubuntu artwork maybe :)01:47
_StefanS_Riddell: oh yep.. :)01:48
Riddell_StefanS_: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-kde01:48
kwwiiwe can make the login look similar to kde but I do not think you can make it look the same01:51
sebasmhb: Yeah, at least on kde-hardware-devel01:52
sebasRiddell: We agreed on running it through usability01:52
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_StefanS_argh.. nfs-common is broken at the moment in gutsy due to missing initscripts (>= 2.86.ds1-38.1)..02:13
Riddellthey're discussing that now, it needs merging sysvinit from debian02:14
_StefanS_oh.. actually I cant install ltsp before its worked out.. and then no ldm-qt before that :(02:14
Riddellask ogra about that02:16
Riddellother tasks include merging the new networkstatus infrastructure from suse (if suitable)02:16
Hobbseeyay, so many kde bugs...02:17
Riddelloh and updating ksplash-moodin to work with the new dialog.png size02:17
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_StefanS_Riddell: got a link for the networkstatus ?02:46
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_StefanS_sweet .. initscripts is available now02:48
Riddellhmm, websvn seems to be down02:49
Riddellwell, very slow02:50
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases02:50
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Riddell_StefanS_: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/work/~wstephens/02:50
Riddell_StefanS_: kdelibs, kdebase etc02:51
Riddell_StefanS_: it moves networkstatus from kdepim to kdelibs02:51
_StefanS_ah I see it there02:51
_StefanS_whats does it do ? :)02:51
Riddellyou may be better getting the patches from suse factory02:51
Riddellmakes networkstatus good hopefully (rather than e.g. konqueror saying it can't find anything when network-manager is disconnected)02:52
Riddellsebas may know more02:52
Riddellor for best details, /msg bille  directory02:52
_StefanS_ah yes I remember that bug02:53
sebasIt makes kmail not ask if you want to work online every n minutes when you've set it to offline, for example.02:53
_StefanS_so should we build networkstatus into our kubuntu kdelibs ? or seperate package?02:54
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sebasbuilt-in, why should it be separate?02:54
_StefanS_donno, just asking02:54
_StefanS_it could just be a dependency02:55
Riddell_StefanS_: build it as a separate package, built from kdelibs02:55
Riddelllike it is now from kdepim02:55
_StefanS_ah ok02:55
_StefanS_well the ltsp thingy seems to work02:55
Riddellso just copy the debian/control and .install details from kdepim02:55
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_StefanS_Riddell: I dont see kdepim anywhere in kdelibs02:59
_StefanS_Riddell: was it removed?02:59
Riddellkdepim is a separate package03:00
_StefanS_thought you said it was built from kdelibs03:00
_StefanS_ah :) I get it03:00
Hobbsee_StefanS_: i wish kde4 was usable....03:00
_StefanS_Hobbsee: me 203:00
Hobbsee_StefanS_: make it usable, then it wont need to be backported03:01
_StefanS_Hobbsee: yea.. but its probably pretty far off until we get atleast a RC03:01
Riddell_StefanS_: kdepim and kdelibs are source packages.  kdepim makes the binary package networkstatus.  these patches move networkstatus to kdelibs so that binary package should move to kdelibs03:01
Riddell(if it works)03:01
_StefanS_got it03:02
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_StefanS_Riddell: trying a build now03:06
_StefanS_letts see what happends03:06
_StefanS_uhm-- back to ltsp.03:06
Riddellooh, this klash/gnash thing really works03:18
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_StefanS_Riddell: still building ...03:26
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Riddellhmm, two bots03:26
HobbseeRiddell: yeah, one's dying03:26
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ScottKSo I'm reading that starting October 1 (In Debian), Apt will install reccomends by default for all packages.  I'm assuming we'll get that change too.03:28
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ScottKDoes that mean that if a Main package has a Universe recommends, it needs to either get an MIR or be dropped to suggests?03:28
_StefanS_ScottK: kinda increases packages quite a bit on your system .. :)03:28
ScottKI don't know when mvo plans to put that into the Ubuntu Apt, but I'd hate to have a mess of packages in Main suddenly go uninstallable.03:30
RiddellScottK: we have it in ubuntu apt for any package in the metapackages section03:35
Riddellwhich isn't many03:35
Riddellwe did try it for all packages but of course lots of packages have unsuitable recommends03:36
ScottKRight, but this is for all packages.03:36
Riddellif debian changes apt to follow that policy then the packages will get updated with more sensible recommends03:36
_StefanS_Riddell: seems like ltsp is already using kubuntu background image03:40
Riddellerr, really?03:41
Riddellfor the login manager?03:41
_StefanS_but you can see its gtk ofcourse in the menus03:43
_StefanS_Riddell: networkstatus complained about missing man pages, rebuilding.03:47
Riddell_StefanS_: use debuild -nc to not clean it03:49
_StefanS_Riddell: always do ;)03:50
_StefanS_Riddell: ltsp is really cool..03:50
Riddelland obviously fix whatever part of the packaging was expecting man pages03:50
_StefanS_did that already03:50
_StefanS_boot my thinclient now :D03:50
_StefanS_Riddell: cp: cannot stat `.//usr/bin/networkstatustestservice': No such file or directory03:52
_StefanS_err :)03:52
Riddellit has been re-written, new parts will appear and old ones disappear03:54
_StefanS_hmm it doesn't seem like it gets compiled03:57
_StefanS_Makefile.in doesnt exist03:57
_StefanS_uhm.. missing an include it seems03:59
_StefanS_Riddell: I got the Makefile.in generated.. lets see how it builds.04:08
faboRiddell: for an easy backport, dbus-x11 | dbus will be ok. i'm preparing 0.5.5-2 with a fix commited by egon04:14
fabooh, about strigi ;)04:15
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Riddellfabo: yes, I should do that04:39
Riddellfreespire showing their roots http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=850&slide=1604:39
RiddellI recognise that logout dialogue http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=850&slide=1704:40
Riddellfabo: did you patch strigi or kde4libs to work with each other?04:43
faboRiddell: not done/looked yet, i will look tonight when preparing 0.5.5-204:44
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mhbRiddell: ooh, shiny05:07
mhbI wonder how much changed besides the artwork05:08
Riddellmakes up for mepis dropping us anyway05:08
Riddelltheir choice of apps is quite different05:08
Riddelland of course they have codecs05:08
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nixternalumm, is it me or is freespire kmenu icon look a little fedorish06:10
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Riddellnot just you nixternal06:24
nixternalI wonder why they would do their logo and make it look like that06:25
nixternalHobbsee: for that guy wanting and updated KRename, would it be alright to point him to my PPA so he can get 3.0.14 for Feisty, Edgy, or Dapper?06:29
Hobbseenixternal: sure06:29
nixternalOK...I will work on that later and then email him off list06:30
nixternalI am doing a KDE 4 talk tomorrow for the Chicago GLUG...I think I am just going to use the Beta 1 packages instead of building from SVN :)  to lazy right now to work on svn building all day06:31
nixternalplus I have seen they are having qt-copy issues in svn right now06:31
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DaSkreechnixternal: Isn't Gimp fundamentally GTK?06:48
DaSkreechAs in it's more like GTK IS GIMP?06:49
nixternalyou think? GTK == Gimp Tool Kit :)06:49
DaSkreechmhb: Nice pic of you :)06:51
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mhbgreetings from freespire07:12
Tm_Tlets beat him!07:13
mhbnixternal: you cannot criticise properly if you dont try it07:13
nixternalmhb: I tried it one time while I was waiting for my wife at walmart :)07:13
nixternalit is KUbuntu with a Fedora logo :)07:14
mhbnixternal: well, you can spot more changes07:14
nixternaldoes it come with all of the restricted codecs or no?07:14
mhbfor example, they are using The Powermanager with The Unusable UI07:14
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nixternalI just noticed that the icons shown in kdesu (I am in system settings) are horibbly pixelated07:16
nrg88hi guys? what's up with all those UUIDs in fstab? when i install another kubuntu, i can't boot the previous one07:17
mhbnixternal: heh, that is the problem with not having all-size icons07:17
nrg88it doesn't mount then my other partitions07:17
nixternalI haven't looked at fstab in a long long time07:17
mhbnixternal: crystal is plagued by that pretty much07:17
nrg88i've installed tribe 407:18
nixternalI have 1 Ubuntu, 2 Kubuntu, 1 Debian, 1 openSUSE, and 1 Slackware on my machine and they all boot just fine :)07:18
nrg88i had to delete the UUID codes from fstab and replace them with /dev/hda* s07:18
nrg88else boot process failed with the filesystem cheking07:19
nixternalI have all of the UUID codes as well in my fstab07:19
nrg88and it have me a root shell07:19
nrg88i typed reboot in the root shell07:19
nrg88and it continued booting07:19
nixternal# /dev/sda307:19
nixternalUUID=5c1030b7-c1b6-42bf-b67b-26e2b6fd850a /home           ext3    defaults        0       207:19
nrg88but none of my partitions (except root) were mounted07:19
Riddellmhb: what's their music app?07:20
nrg88btw, i booted up the Kubuntu live cd, and none of the partitions were mounted07:20
nrg88will automount make it in Gutsy final>?07:20
Riddellnrg88: there's no current work on that, I'd like to look at options in gutsy+107:21
nrg88after gutsy finished installing i attached a hdd to my pc07:21
nrg88i couldn't get it to work using graphical methods07:21
mhbRiddell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsongs07:22
nrg88the KDE disk management (kcontrol) module was not working, it said something about the module being orphaned07:22
nrg88and not loaded07:22
mhbI have to admit I like their artwork consistency, and I like their windeco more07:23
nrg88this didn't happen in feisty07:23
nrg88(Disk & Filesystems in System Settings)07:24
nrg88did gutsy get a new version of HAL or something?07:24
Riddellnrg88: that has nothing to do with hal07:27
nrg88ok then07:27
Hobbseenight all07:28
DaSkreechHobbsee: Night07:28
nrg88but disk management is a little messed up in gutsy :|07:28
mhbnight Hobbsee07:28
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neversfelde|mobiRiddell: ping07:54
Riddellhi neversfelde|mobi07:54
neversfelde|mobiRiddell: hi07:54
neversfelde|mobiRiddell: did you send that poster to me?07:54
Riddellneversfelde|mobi: it seems to be stuck at the house of a chap who doesn't want to commit to sending it07:55
Riddellneversfelde|mobi: you may want to send him an e-mail and ask if he'll send it (gordon@gjcp.net)07:56
Riddelland maybe CC kenny who is the person who should have it (kenny@kde.org)07:56
neversfelde|mobiok, i'll do it. Thank you07:56
mhbRiddell: in an interesting side note, it seems Freespire devs decided to "fix" the bug about quicklauncher I was posting about :o)08:07
nixternalI don't get anything in my kicker with the kde4 packages08:10
nixternalanyone else experience this?08:10
nixternalOK, removing ~/.kde4 fixed it08:15
Riddellmhb: actually change something, or just not use it?08:15
nixternalman, I really like the fonts in Konsole in KDE 408:15
Riddellneversfelde|mobi: yes, that's a known issue with beta08:15
Riddellnixternal rather08:15
jjesseafternoon :)08:18
nixternalOOH! KDE Konsole does links #@#$08:18
nixternalin KDE 4 that is :)08:18
neversfelde|mobiRiddell: nice to know :)08:18
nixternalRiddell: I thought I seen KOffice2 packages08:20
Riddellnixternal: yes, it didn't compile though08:21
nixternalahh, OK08:21
Riddellsome random cmake issue in the buildd I couldn't recreate08:21
Riddellpossibly a give back is all it needs, I don't know08:22
nixternalgive it a try...would be nice to use KPresenter from KOffice2 to give my presentation tomorrow :)08:22
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Riddellit compiled fine for me08:22
nixternalOK, I will grab the files and build them here08:23
Riddellnixternal: I've added the kvkbd inclusion report to the queue08:29
nixternalrock on08:30
nixternalanyone trying out KDE 4 Beta packages...do your keyboard shortcuts work at all?09:01
nixternalwhen I am in Konqueror, and I type in an address and press enter, it doesn't do anything09:01
nixternalalt+f2 doesn't fire krunner either09:01
nixternaland my favorite alt+tab spits out funky stuff in konsole :)09:02
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nixternalwelcome back ryanakca! how was camping?09:02
nixternalooh, and there is Mez!09:03
nixternalOK, back to KDE 3..I have to get this presentation done09:03
ryanakcanice, hot, got lots of biking and kayaking in... and I finished HP709:03
nixternalwhat is HP7?09:05
DaSkreechnixternal: Hmm?09:06
ryanakcaScottK: any success with egroupware?09:07
ScottKNo.  Sorry.  Haven't had time.09:07
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steveireHi. Does http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kitchensync&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all mean there is no package for gutsy yet, and shouldn't there be one by now?09:10
nixternal!info kitchensync09:11
ubotukitchensync: Synchronization framework. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 823 kB, installed size 2468 kB09:11
nixternal!info kitchensync gutsy09:11
ubotuPackage kitchensync does not exist in gutsy09:11
mhbRiddell: they are using one size for the K menu and the quicklauncher icons09:12
mhb(not sure if those are QL icons, but they are icons for apps)09:12
steveireyes. Interesting.09:13
DaSkreech!info ghostview gutsy09:20
ubotuPackage ghostview does not exist in gutsy09:20
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DaSkreechmhb: Nice Hurd crack09:22
mhbDaSkreech: heh, yes :o) although in small/medium sized projects, it won't take that long09:25
nixternalit seems that kitchensync was commented out in the kdepim package09:27
nixternal  * Added kitchensync.install file and fixed debian/control to prepare09:28
nixternal    the build for future libopensync-dev enabled packaging.09:28
nixternal    Everything is disabled by default .09:28
steveirenixternal: Cheers. What version? Do you know?09:28
nixternal3.5.7-1ubuntu4 in Gutsy09:29
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steveireOK, fiesty one claims to be kitchensync v0.809:30
DaSkreech!search ghostview gutsy09:33
ubotuFound: gibbon, gutsy, newqueue, pidgin, ubuntu+1, gusty09:33
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manchickenI'm guessing that we stuck the maintainer string as the description in adept on purpose?10:18
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ryanakcaRiddell: hmm... going to the world pipe band championships tomorrow?10:27
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