nosrednaekimIDK.. what the channel it.12:16
nosrednaekimsomething like that12:16
ubot3In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo12:16
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jhutchinsDueling bots!12:16
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jhutchinsjenny_: I believe you need to run winesetup12:17
fkmCan they do loops? x)12:17
jhutchinsjenny_: winecfg12:17
fkmToo bad ;)12:17
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jenny_in terminal?12:19
jenny_I asked that channel but no one said anything12:19
jhutchinsjenny_: I think you can run it from alt-f212:19
vbgunzmy "signal 15" issue fell from the face of the earth :/12:19
jhutchinsvbgunz: It's not a signal 15 issue.12:19
fester I have Samba and Nautilus-share. How do I make my files available to other computers?12:20
jhutchinsvbgunz: That's like "Command "OFF" received".12:20
jhutchinsvbgunz: Without knowing what sent the sig 15 you don't know what happened.12:20
vbgunzjhutchins: :/12:21
vbgunzvery frustrating :(12:21
zipperwhen running "sudo apt-get update" i get this: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable). Any hints?12:21
ubot3To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell12:21
Tm_Tzipper: yes, close adept12:21
MaximLevitskyI know that kdesu hangs if it is confused by sudo ( if sudo has already been run on that pty, it allows command without password, and that confuses kdesu, and btw a bug report about that was opened) Second problem arises from ~nasty~ kde daemons , especialy kdeinit and klauncher. I found that first app started with kdesu works fine and I can open other apps from it, and I can even open other root apps, but ... if I close tha12:21
MaximLevitsky to launch anything unless I restart it with 'kdeinit' command, any ideas?12:21
fester I have Samba and Nautilus-share. How do I make my files available on my local network?12:21
zipperTm_T, adept not running12:21
Tm_Tzipper: sure?12:22
Tm_T!adeptcrashfix | zipper12:22
ubot3zipper: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:22
Phil^fester: /etc/samba/smb.conf / man samba / goole12:22
zipperTm_T, pretty. only got the notifier still running12:22
vbgunzI don't know what logs to look at in regards to my mysteriously logging out :(12:22
zipperthat didnt fix it =/12:23
jenny_hutch i did now what12:23
festerI tried  /etc/samba/smb.conf / man samba / goole and got permission denied.12:23
jenny_when i click on junosetup.ext and click open with wine it tells me i need explorer12:23
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bjwebbdoes kubuntu have ntfs write drivers on the cd?12:28
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zipperTm_T, hmm, apparently root was running "apt-get -qq update" ?12:28
Tm_Tzipper: nice12:28
Tm_Tthat happens in time to time12:28
zipperi see12:28
bjwebbdoes kubuntu have ntfs write drivers on the cd?12:28
zipperi killed the process, guess that doesnt matter too much12:28
festerI have Samba and Nautilus-share. How do I make my files available on my local network?12:28
Tm_Tnah, prolly not12:28
jhutchinsvbgunz: Probably going to have to look at power management settings, probably have to sit there and watch it until it happens.12:28
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jhutchins!samba | fester12:28
ubot3fester: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:28
jhutchinsfester: Second item.12:28
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bjwebbcan anyone help?12:28
Tm_T!patience | bjwebb12:28
ubot3bjwebb: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:28
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bjwebbTm_T: lol12:28
Tm_Tbjwebb: also, patience is your friend (:12:28
bjwebbits just a basic thing and i thought someone would know12:29
Tm_Tthe fellow who knows the answer might be away currently12:29
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bjwebbill ask in #ubuntu as well12:29
Tm_Tyes, someone will know, but it might take time to get answer, patience (:12:29
jhutchinsbjwebb: I think the CD has ntfs read drivers.  You need ntfs-3g for write.12:29
jhutchinsbjwebb: Don't know if that's on the cd or just repos.12:30
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jhutchins!info ntfs-3g12:30
ubot3ntfs-3g: Third generation Linux NTFS driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060920-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB12:30
Tm_Tit's not in cd, says that12:30
bjwebbhmm universe in edgy12:30
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jhutchinsbjwebb: Still in universe, bot's database is old.12:31
jhutchinsbjwebb: We're on a backup bot.12:31
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bjwebbjhutchins: okay, so any chance of getting ntfs write from live cd?12:32
Tm_Tubot3: bug 112:33
ubot3For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents12:33
ubot3Malone bug 1 in jl "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112:33
bjwebbbah i know, but im not going to force my friends into using linux12:34
bjwebbactually ........12:34
Tm_Tbjwebb: it wasn't for you =)12:34
jhutchinsbjwebb: no, but knoppix can.12:34
bjwebbTm_T: oh okay12:35
Tm_Tbjwebb: and forcing is against the spirit of free and open source community12:35
jhutchinsbjwebb: You could install ntfs-3g while booted from the cd, but you can't re-boot, it will disappear.12:35
jhutchinsTime to feed horses, later all.12:35
bjwebbjhutchins: im tempted to try that12:35
bjwebbinstall the package that is, not feed horses12:35
runleveltenubotu, is that you?12:37
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Tm_Trunlevelten: backup bot12:38
runleveltenis ubotu alright?12:38
Tm_Tubotu is on vacation12:38
runleveltenOh, that's OK then.12:38
oellinuxi would like to have an explanation about the way kubuntu manages characters12:38
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oellinuxi'm going to explain...12:39
oellinuxi am using kubuntu 7.04 in italian, and i setted a certain password12:39
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oellinuxon suggestion of a friend with a problem, i changed my password into the char ""12:40
oellinuxby typing it on the info center, it was showing 2 *12:40
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oellinuxhow can that be possible?12:40
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festerI have changed samba.cnf. Kubuntu won't let me save it to /etc/samba.12:53
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fester I have changed samba.cnf. How do I get Kubuntu to let me save it to /etc/samba?12:56
greenleafI have what is probably a rather n00bish question.  How do I determine whether my webcam will work in Kubuntu?  I'm currently running off the CD on a notebook with a built-in webcam.12:56
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greenleafMy notebook was made by MSI, but I can't recall off-hand what the webcam model is.12:57
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Trigger911i got a guestion im having problems getting kubuntu and xubuntu but it will start to copy the files then the caps lock and scroll lock will turn on/of in scync01:04
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ortizhola q tal01:07
ortizcomo estas01:07
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ortizaoguien me podria colaborar con algo de kubuntu01:08
underdog5004when I try to man something, I get this: man: can't create a temporary filename: Permission denied01:08
underdog5004why is that?01:08
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ortizi need help01:11
ortizneed help01:11
ortizplease help me01:11
underdog5004what's the problem?01:12
Tm_T!helpme | ortiz01:13
ubot3ortiz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:13
ortizi nedd install the driver for the ati xpress x20001:13
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ubot3Factoid zix not found01:14
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ubot3Factoid winzix not found01:14
ortizalguien de habla spaol01:14
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ubot3qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo01:16
ubot3Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:17
yamalgraag gedaan :p01:17
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b-realola a todosss01:21
nosrednaekimthat was bad spanish01:22
nosrednaekimits "hola todos"01:22
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b-realmil personas01:23
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george2002311 dice mi xchat01:23
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b-realgene_, pero ni se si se habla espaol01:23
b-realgene_, sorry01:23
george2002the channel hi ingles01:23
Tm_Tkids, english only01:23
b-realgeorge2002, jajajaja01:23
b-realgeorge2002, xd01:24
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b-realim spanish..01:24
Tm_T!es | b-real01:24
ubot3b-real: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:24
george2002hello tm_t01:24
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b-realTm_T, ok thanks a lot01:25
nosrednaekimTm_T: you are so helpful =D01:25
george2002b-real proguntale que si puede mostrar una captura del escroitorio01:25
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: very01:26
b-realgeorge2002,  aki en ??01:26
nosrednaekimgot everything but the escroitorio...01:26
nosrednaekimI thought it was "aqui"01:26
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b-realgeorge2002, ??01:26
Tm_Tgeorge2002: b-real really, english here01:27
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b-realokok sorry man01:27
george2002hello to all, friends of kubuntu, some of you podria to show to a capture of its PC and kubuntu to see that so they have it01:27
george2002perdon b-real01:27
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george2002tengo curiosidad01:27
b-realgeorge2002, b watter my friend01:28
george2002mi no entender jeje01:29
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aguitelgeorge2002 ,eso es spanglish01:29
b-realgeorge2002, kubuntu -es01:29
Tm_Tgeorge2002: I'm warning you01:29
b-realgeorge2002, #kubunt-es01:30
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george2002bey tm_t  friends01:31
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Tm_TI'm his friend now?01:32
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ortizalguien q me ayude01:36
Tm_Tortiz: same to you, stick in english here01:36
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Jmanfoocan someone tell me if beryl is a replacement for, or an addition to, KDE?01:41
moradorJmanfoo, it can be used along with KDE if you want01:41
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moradorit's a replacement for the window manager (kwin)01:42
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Jmanfooi guess what i want to know is, will it run \on top of\ kde01:42
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moradoryes, it will01:43
Jmanfooexcellent, thank you morador :)01:44
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saki_kninhow do i register01:44
moradorwelcome Jmanfoo01:44
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Tm_T!register | saki_knin01:47
ubot3saki_knin: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration01:47
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H4xC0ri would you lik download rainbowcrack under ubuntu01:47
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Tm_TH4xC0r: and what is that?01:48
H4xC0rtest pasword01:49
DragnslcrIsn't Rainbow a program that tries to find hash collisions?01:49
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LiquidAirWhat's the kubuntu compatibility like with macbook pro rev c?01:50
Tm_T!info rainbow01:50
ubot3Package rainbow does not exist in edgy01:50
Tm_TLiquidAir: all I know is "should work"01:50
LiquidAirTm_T, k01:50
ubuntu_anyone know if compiz-fusion is to be included w/ kubuntu gutsy by default?01:50
Dragnslcrubuntu_- I think so, but I'm not certain01:51
ubuntu_Dragnslcr: it is w/ ubuntu right?01:51
grendal_primeguys im trying to get ubuntu onto an hp pavillion dv6000 it has longhorn on it and i did manage to get debian on it..but anytime i try and get an x server running on it it locks up the entire box.01:51
grendal_primeany ideas?01:51
grendal_primeit uses nvidia video card01:51
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saki_kninmsg nickserv link saki_knin vrbnik01:53
Tm_Tyou shouldn't tell the password to us, pal01:53
yrggood move, now you need to find a new password01:54
Tm_TI recommend so01:54
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Tm_Tsaki_knin: should do that in server window so similar incidents wont happen01:56
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saki_kninhow do i change password01:57
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persenDoing a cat /proc/cpuinfo says my model name is "Unknown CPU type". I know this cpu is a xp 2500 barton, but i wonder if it is any other tool that can reveal this information?01:57
persenAlso the CPU runs at 502 mhz according to the info in /proc/cpuinfo01:58
nosrednaekimpersen: Athlon XP?01:58
nosrednaekimtry lshw01:59
persenAnd the mainboard does have CPU fan speed control, any app i can play with that ?01:59
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persenNo, lshw just reveals the same info02:00
Jmanfoohmm okay, i ran the beryl-manager, and now my windows have no decorations at all02:01
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Jmanfooand i see where to manage the themes, but how to apply them?02:01
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nosrednaekimJmanfoo: select windowmanager-> beryl02:02
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Jmanfooeh wha?!02:02
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fester I have changed samba.cnf. How do I get Kubuntu to let me save it to /etc/samba?02:02
Jmanfoowhere do i select it as the window manager02:03
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ortizalguien en espaol02:04
Tm_T!es | ortiz02:04
ubot3ortiz: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:04
nosrednaekimJmanfoo: in beryl-manager02:04
Jmanfooits already select for window manager02:05
ubot3If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:05
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Jmanfooalready i've restarted X too, still no window decorations02:09
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fester I have changed samba.cnf. How do I get Kubuntu to let me save it to /etc/samba?02:09
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Networkgamercan i get help with bluetooth on kubuntu?02:10
Networkgamerwhenever i do hcitool scan it gives me a connection time out error02:10
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nosrednaekimJmanfoo: do you have a ATI card?02:13
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JmanfooNvidia card nosrednaekim02:15
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nosrednaekimdid you install the proprietary drivers?02:15
Jmanfooit's using the "nvidia" driver02:16
Jmanfooperhaps nvidia-glx is in order?02:16
Networkgamernyone familiar with hcitool?02:16
Chippy_hey, for some reason KDE keeps stalling every now and then when I change windows... I can move my mouse, but I can't do anything for a few seconds, and it's very frustrating.  Can anyone help me out?02:17
nosrednaekimJmanfoo: where does it say "nvidia?"02:17
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nosrednaekimChippy_: are you running out of memory?02:17
Jmanfooin xorg.conf in section device02:17
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JmanfooIdentifier     "nVidia Corporation C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] "02:18
JmanfooDriver         "nvidia"02:18
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nosrednaekimok, thats fine then....02:18
BluesKajevening folks :)02:18
Chippy_nosrednaekim: sure aren't.  Got like 1GB of unsued RAM at any given time02:18
fester I have changed samba.cnf. How do I get Kate to let me save it to /etc/samba?02:18
Jmanfoochippy what's your CPU usage02:19
grendal_primeJmanfoo:  have a new box here i cannot get to run anything that has to do with X  not even kubuntu. Its a laptop hp pavillion dv6000 with a  wide screen02:19
grendal_primeany ideas?02:19
jhutchinsChippy_: You might check your disks.02:19
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Jmanfoohaha hey grendal how did you know i had an hp?02:19
Jmanfoogrendal are you using the noapic option in grub?02:20
grendal_primeI didnt...now i do...grab ahold of your seat.02:20
jhutchinsChippy_: Run something like gkrellm and see if you can spot it.02:20
grendal_primeumm no02:20
grendal_primewill that fix it?02:20
Jmanfoogrendal when grub comes up, select the kubuntu kernel and press e02:20
grendal_primei cant even get the disk to install.02:21
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nosrednaekimJmanfoo: ok, restart X after your last try of beryl and run these command in order: "beryl" then "beryl-manager" and then right click on the icon and "select window manager-> beryl"02:21
grendal_primei do have a debian install on there though02:21
grendal_primei could edit the grub it put on.02:21
Jmanfooyou mean the livecd grendal?02:21
Jmanfooi wasn't able to get kubuntu to boot at all on my dv6208nr until i used the noapic option02:21
grendal_primeya the live cd will only get past the ...oh wait ya that must be the grub screen then02:21
grendal_primehold on.02:22
grendal_primeill reboot it02:22
Jmanfooi'm pretty sure thats what's going on02:22
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Jmanfoobrb gonna restart x02:22
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Jmanfoonosrednaekim no dice02:24
Jmanfooand it looks like the beryl command i ran in konsole crashed02:24
nosrednaekimthat sequence didn't help?02:24
Chippy_jhutchins: Got it.  Ojne of my cores spiked to 100% CPU usage, but the other was down near 0 and there were no other signs02:24
nosrednaekimJmanfoo: yeah, what was the error message?02:24
grendal_primeok Jmanfoo i slected safe graphics mode02:24
JmanfooX connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).02:25
Jmanfoothat was when i did Reload Window Manager from beryl-manager02:25
Jmanfoogrendal did it boot right?02:25
grendal_primeits sped on configurenetwork interfaces02:26
nosrednaekimJmanfoo: try running "beryl --replace"02:26
grendal_primesaid something about uvcvideio vaild to query..seems jamed at this point02:26
grendal_primeso after i reboot i want to look for what?02:26
nosrednaekimJmanfoo: or really "beryl --indirect-rendering --strict-binding --replace settings"02:27
Networkgamerwho knows anything about hcitool or bluetooth?02:27
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Jmanfoonosrednaekim looks like it's hanging up like it did when i just ran beryl02:28
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nosrednaekimJmanfoo: if that latter one fails, pastebin the output, (alt+f2 then "kwin --replace" should give you your window borders back02:28
BluesKajberyl ..what waste of good cpu loading02:29
jhutchinsJmanfoo: #ubuntu-effects is all about beryl/compiz stuff.02:29
Jmanfoowhen i ran just beryl --replace, it looked like ran through because it dropped me back to the prompt, but i ran the manager and i still didnt have window decs02:29
nosrednaekimJmanfoo: were there any errors?02:29
Jmanfooberyl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 3202:30
Jmanfoosaid that 4 times02:30
Jmanfooand its just sitting there now02:30
nosrednaekimyou are running in 32 bit mode in X?02:30
jhutchinsGee, you suppose it couldn't find a framebuffer configuration for 32b color depth?02:30
Jmanfooi'm not running at 3202:30
Jmanfoomy xorg is set to 2402:30
Chippy_jhutchins: Given that something was using a ton of CPU, I ran htop and replicated it; kwin takes up 100% CPU when it happens02:31
jhutchinsso something cyclic about kwin...02:32
grendal_primeso Jmanfoo i got the splash screen whith the start or install kubuntu..what do i do at this point..(this does not look anything like the grub i know)02:32
jhutchinsgrendal_prime: Um, you're booting the live CD, what do you want to do?02:32
Chippy_jhutchins: it may be cyclic, but it only ever happens when I switch windows to give focus to another one02:32
Jmanfoojhutchins he needs to set the noapic option02:32
Jmanfooi dont remember how to do it on the live cd02:32
jhutchinsChippy_: You mess with beryl/compiz at all?02:32
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Chippy_jhutchins: nope02:33
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jhutchinsgrendal_prime: You need to choose "boot" or "more options"....  I think boot first.02:33
nosrednaekimgrendal_prime: on the grub boot screen there should be a F-something that says "extra options" press that and enter noapic02:33
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jhutchinsJmanfoo: what is it with grub, escape to edit the boot command?02:33
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Networkgameri think its del02:34
Jmanfooi think its e02:34
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jhutchinsNetworkgamer: That's usually for the BIOS.02:34
Jmanfoowhen you're got the right boot choice highlighted hit e02:34
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Jmanfooi didnt know if it gave you that option in the livecd version of grub02:34
Jmanfooit has that nice purty interface02:35
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grendal_primeone word like that noapic ?02:37
grendal_primeafter the dashes right?02:38
nosrednaekimbefore I think02:38
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Jmanfooalright where was the channel for beryl stuff?02:43
Jmanfooit seems my x server will not let me use anything other than 32bit, even though i have it forced to 1602:44
grendal_primeJmanfoo: that worked thanks man02:44
Jmanfoogrendal_prime no problem, just remember after you isntall it, edit your /boot/menu.lst to have that noapic option02:44
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ellipsysHey guys. Anyone available to assist with what may have be a dead Xorg?02:46
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nosrednaekimJmanfoo: #ubuntu-effects02:48
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grendal_primewhat the hell does apic do (besides fk up linux installs)02:49
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ellipsysI'm not sure grendal.02:50
nosrednaekimsomething to do with the processor02:50
czer323Any suggestions for a temperature monitor that goes in the system tray?  Trying to monitor an i8k type thing02:50
czer323I have fan control currently working with GKrellM, but its' mighty ugly.02:51
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ellipsysCzer, lemme check something.  If nobody knows here, check the k/ubuntu forums. If not, post to the HardForum.02:52
Tm_Tczer323: like ksensors ?02:53
Jmanfoogrendal_prime i think apic is automatic processor interrupt controller, which HPs don't have02:53
czer323Tm_T: seems extremely promising ;)02:54
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czer323Tm_T: do you know it if includes fan control?  *looking through the options too*02:54
Jmanfoobtw grendal_prime, if you need more help with kubuntu on the dv6000, you can aim me, i've got just about everything configured to work the way it did under vista02:55
ellipsysAnyone have some experience with getting X to work again? Somehow I managed to kill the damn thing trying to upgrade my synaptics.02:55
Tm_Tnot that I know02:55
czer323Tm_T: well this is a great start anyway ;)02:55
nosrednaekimellipsys: yeah, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"02:55
ellipsysNow after the kubuntu loading bar, I get a black screen with blinky cursor that does nothing.02:55
Jmanfooellipsys what type of comp you using?02:56
ellipsysNosrednaekim: Will that bork up my ATI settings and anything else in the xorg.conf?02:56
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ellipsysJmanfoo: Asus W3V laptop.02:56
nosrednaekimellipsys: probably... but it's easy to get it all back.02:56
nosrednaekimonce you have X02:56
ellipsysI was following the ubuntu wiki on adding Synaptics touchpad support, after I downloaded Ksynaptic02:57
ubuntu_someone out there ???????????02:58
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ellipsysOkay nos: trying it now.02:58
Daisuke_Idoubuntu_: we're talking !!!!!!!!!!!!!02:58
Jmanfooaheh, no one seems to be alive in #ubuntu_effects02:58
Daisuke_Ido(hint, don't use that many question marks and you'll probably get better results)02:59
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Daisuke_Idoone is plenty02:59
intelikeyhow many  ?????????????????????????????????????????02:59
Daisuke_Idointelikey: that was actually close02:59
nicon_When i was here last time some1 did gave me an adress to good audiodrivers for gigabyte audio02:59
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Daisuke_Idomaybe gigabyte's site?02:59
nicon_Can smb gave me this address onceagain?02:59
nicon_Daisuke_Ido: nope, it was english ubuntu site02:59
Daisuke_Idothough to my knowledge GB uses a standard realtek chipset.02:59
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nicon_Daisuke_Ido: yep03:00
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nicon_it was english ubuntu site with apt-get cmd03:00
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ubot3If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:00
Daisuke_Idowell that narrows it down to, let me see...  carry the one...  subtract three...  ALL of them03:00
ubuntu_ground zero is better just set to .2203:00
Daisuke_Idowhat are you talking about?03:01
nicon_It's not same page03:01
Daisuke_Idonicon_: then i recommend google.03:01
Daisuke_Idoif you know what you're looking for, it's quite useful03:02
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nicon_Daisuke_Ido: last time i did search all tired day03:02
nicon_And nothing find03:02
montesluanyone having trouble running an apt-get update on 7.04 right now?03:02
nicon_Only on this channel some1 did help me03:02
nicon_monteslu: nope03:02
Jmanfoomonteslu whats happening?03:02
intelikey.22 is too small   anything less than 7mm is a waste of powder03:02
Phoenix92xhi, I'm running feisty with an nvidia 7950 graphics card and a dell 2407wfp monitor and I'm having trouble getting it to run at 1920x1200, its maximum resolution. It only runs at 1680x1050. I go to administrator mode in display settings and change it to 1920x1200 and it says it cannot safely test the configuration and to restart x. I restart x and log back in and lo and behold, its at 1680x1050 again. Could someone help me resolve this or, if03:03
Phoenix92xneccessary, help me reinstall the nviida driver install in case I somehow botched that? All I did for that was sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new followed by sudo nvidia-xconfig03:03
nicon_Daisuke_Ido: or maybe U know how is possible to audio driver broke after lot of x-restart?03:03
nicon_I can c that:03:03
intelikeymonteslu i'm updating dapper right now.   they are the same servers so i doubt that it's the servers.03:04
nicon_Look at this page03:04
Daisuke_Idothat didn't make any sense.03:04
montesluJmanfoo, it's barfing on a package list03:04
nicon_Daisuke_Ido: i know ;/03:04
nicon_Dunno why it dont work03:04
Daisuke_Idono idea03:04
nicon_Daisuke_Ido: last problem was graphic:03:05
montesluthere a way to clear out cach with apt-get ?03:05
nicon_After installing new icons, styles, etc03:05
nicon_Like U can c03:05
nosrednaekimmonteslu: which server are you using?03:05
nosrednaekimmonteslu: because mine just wacked out too!03:05
monteslujust defaults for edubuntu03:05
nicon_And then after reconfigure xorg, and lots of x-restart i got this problem03:05
monteslunosrednaekim, bad zip ?03:05
nosrednaekimtrying a new morror03:06
intelikeyheh  "look at this _page_  http://niconcomputer.one.pl/11.jpg"   <<< not a page.  a picture.  but yeah man.03:06
nicon_intelikey: never mind q;03:06
montesluhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted is bad03:06
Daisuke_Idomonteslu: since when?03:06
nicon_Now i want reinstall system03:06
nicon_But first i want to have that apt-get cmd03:07
montesluDaisuke_Ido, no idea, it's just crapping out on me now03:07
nicon_To don't have any problems with sound card again03:07
montesluapt-get is complaining that its not in zip format03:07
montesluDaisuke_Ido, can you try an apt-get update ?03:07
nicon_so, can smb help me?03:07
Jmanfoois there a command that spits out my current color depth in x?03:07
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intelikeymonteslu you can change the /us.  to /nl.   and retry03:08
Phoenix92xIve been working on the nvidia problem mentioned above for a while now...doing that sort of thing has always been a weakness, could someone please help me with it?03:09
intelikeyJmanfoo xvinfo   ?03:09
Networkgameranyone familiar with hcitool?03:09
Networkgameror bluetooth03:09
intelikeymonteslu in the /etc/apt/sources.list   where all that info is stored.03:09
ubot3If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:09
ubot3To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:10
intelikeymonteslu kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:10
Jmanfoointelikey that did it thnx :)03:10
montesluintelikey, ok. I'll try that03:10
intelikeyNetworkgamer is your nick factual ?03:11
nicon_nobody can help me? xD03:12
underdog5004nicon_, what's the problem?03:12
nicon_underdog5004: i need page in style of help.ubuntu.com03:12
tank71anyone have any recomendations for buying a harddrive?03:12
nicon_It's one of this help...03:12
nicon_Where i can find...03:12
underdog5004nicon_, what do you mean?03:13
nicon_All apt-get install blablabla cmd...03:13
nicon_To install good audiodrivers03:13
nicon_Last time some1 here did gave me that address03:13
nicon_Now cant find it03:13
tank71do you keep logs?03:13
intelikeyNetworkgamer (or anyone)  what game is like freeciv   in that it's turn based stratagy   but uses hex grid  modern warfare    ?    i can't find the name of it.   i saw it one time and liked it but forgot what it's called.   any clue ?03:13
nicon_tank71: dunno03:13
nicon_i dont think so03:13
underdog5004nicon_, I have no idea...try google03:13
Networkgamerintelikey:technically yeah,its factual03:13
nicon_underdog5004: i did try google03:14
nicon_1 all day03:14
Networkgamerintelikey:i dont game almost at all on pc03:14
nicon_tank71: in konversation i can find logs?03:14
intelikeytank71 cheep you wont keep it long anyway.03:14
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Networkgamerbut i need help with hcitool03:14
intelikeyNetworkgamer ah ok.03:15
Networkgamerwhenever i do hcitool scan it gives me a conenction timed out error03:15
Networkgamerits on ubuntu on a ps303:15
montesluintelikey, Networkgamer, tried 4 mirrors... finally found one at some .edu...03:15
monteslubad stuff out there right now03:15
Tm_Tintelikey: http://linetap.com/www/drg/SPCamo.htm03:15
monteslubut I'm good for now03:15
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intelikeybut i don't know what  hcitool is...  so that leaves me out03:16
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Networkgamerhcitool is what you use for bluetooth03:16
Networkgamercc connects an address03:16
Networkgamerscan scans for address's03:16
intelikeymonteslu hmmm odd.   the us. are working for me  *dapper*03:16
nosrednaekimmonteslu: I went to canada and got one :)03:16
nosrednaekimhmm or not... montesluwhat mirror are you using?03:17
nosrednaekimmonteslu: ^^03:17
nicon_Hm, maybe some1 know where can I find all cmd logs?03:19
nicon_Of root?03:19
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intelikeyTm_T ever try the program "SABallistics" (small arms ballistics calculator) ?03:19
nosrednaekimok., that seems to be workin!03:19
fester I have changed samba.cnf. How do I get Kate to let me save it to /etc/samba?03:19
nosrednaekimfile->save as?03:20
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intelikeynicon_ sudo less /root/.bash_history ;less ~/.bash_history03:21
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festerSamba seems to be in a protected folder. I can't write to it.03:21
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nicon_I think i did find it xD03:21
nicon_sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui03:22
nicon_Where is the page about that?03:22
nicon_With that cmd?03:22
intelikeynicon_ also worth pointing out   ls /etc/log/     and look for su or sudo logs03:22
ellipsysI don't need both Guarddog and Firestarter, do I?03:22
nicon_It is that cmd03:22
nosrednaekimfester: did you run kate as "kdesu kate"?03:22
nosrednaekimbecause you need root priveledges03:22
CrellHi all.  I'm trying to install Kubuntu Feisty on a Thinkpad T61.  The CD boots fine and I get the boot menu, but when I tell it to actually boot it fails when trying to mount /dev/sda1.03:22
Tm_Tintelikey: na03:22
CrellThe CD itself loads fine on my desktop, so I presume it's not corrupted.03:23
festerNo, I ran Kate from the desktop.03:23
CrellAny idea what the issue could be?03:23
nosrednaekimellipsys: no03:23
nicon_I did find it03:23
nosrednaekimellipsys: got your xorg all sorted out?03:23
nicon_That's what i need xD03:23
nosrednaekimCrell: is the t61 a Santa Rosa?03:23
ellipsysNosrednaekim: Still have to test 3d settings, but I at least have X back visible.03:23
intelikeyellipsys you don't "need" either.   both are only frontends to iptables03:24
CrellEr, the T7500 line chipset.  I'm not sure of the codename.03:24
nosrednaekimCrell: (i.e. was it made in the past 3 months)?03:24
CrellYes, it's their new line.03:24
ellipsysI may need some help with that though to get everything working again.03:24
saki_kninhow do I change the password03:24
nicon_saki_knin: for user?03:24
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saki_kninon irc03:24
nicon_or for su?03:24
nicon_./msg nickserv sth blabla q;03:25
ubuntu_hi all, just testing tribe 403:25
festernosrednaekim: I tried running kdesu kate and got "cannot connect to X server.03:25
nicon_Dun remember q;03:25
intelikeysaki_knin passwd03:25
Crellnosrednaekim: Is there an issue with Feisty and that chipset?  Someone else I talked to mentioned SATA issues.03:25
nosrednaekimCrell: hmm ok. I've heard things about that chipset's disk drivers03:25
saki_knin./msg nickserv sth blabla q;03:26
nicon_saki_knin: ...03:26
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nicon_saki_knin: dun remember this cmd03:26
nosrednaekimCrell: sata issues maybe, but most likely chipset issues03:26
nicon_it's first03:26
nicon_second: without 'dot' q;03:26
intelikeysaki_knin wait irc password   /msg nickserv help password03:26
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festernosrednaekim: I actually have two Linux boxes with the same problem. I don't think it's the chipset.03:27
CrellSo how do I get that chipset to mount the CD properly?03:27
Crellfester: How'd you fix it?03:27
saki_knin:27]  [Notice]  -NickServ- No help available on password03:27
nosrednaekimCrell: lemme see if there is a fix or something.03:27
nosrednaekimCrell: maybe you will have to use Gutsy.03:27
nosrednaekimfester: really?03:27
intelikey/msg nickserv help03:27
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CrellFun fun.  Is Gutsy at all stable yet?03:27
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elite101is solaris any good? im getting the DVD tomarrow?03:28
nosrednaekimCrell: then again, that one ubuntu dell has a santa rosa chipset.03:28
nosrednaekimso maybe its not that03:28
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nosrednaekimnot really :)03:28
festernosredneakim: Yep. Crell: It isn't fixed on either machine yet.03:28
nosrednaekimelite101: not for dektop use really... can't hold a candle to ubuntu for that03:29
elite101ic so its more for like: clusters/programmers? not really something a 14yr would use?03:29
nosrednaekimCrell: so whats the problem exactly?03:30
Crellnosrednaekim: I put in the CD and boot to it.  Select "start or install Kubuntu".03:30
intelikeyTm_T the game i was asking about is in the repos i'm pretty sure   but i have searched for key word "game"  and the list is long   nothing caught my eye...03:30
nosrednaekimit says it can'tmount the drive?03:30
nosrednaekimelite101: precisely, mostly for corporate devs03:30
nosrednaekimfor now..... its improving i've heard03:30
CrellIt does the usual loading kernel bit and thinks for a while.03:30
Tm_Tintelikey: wesnoth?03:30
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CrellThen dumps me to a busybox prompt in initramfs with a message "can't access tty: job control turned off".03:31
festerHas anybody heard anything about CIFS as a replacement for Samba?03:31
intelikeyheh   no.03:31
CrellAn ls shows a root filesystem, and a file called casper.log.03:31
BluesKajin gutsy as an option , i think03:32
Networkgameranybpdy familiar with hcitool?03:32
intelikeyi though maybe   ASC    but after installing and running it.  that's not it.03:32
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Crellcasper.log states that /dev/sda can't be opened because of "no such file", twice, followed by a long series of failing to mount /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 to /cdrom.03:32
xbaci was trying to install a new nvidia card and i did the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org but it says xserver is not installed?03:32
intelikey!info hcitool03:32
ubot3Package hcitool does not exist in edgy03:32
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Networkgamerits not a problem with hcitool specifically03:33
Networkgameri think its more hardware03:33
Networkgameri get a connection timed out error03:33
Networkgamerwhen i do hcitool scan03:33
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nicon_bb all03:35
intelikeymakes absolutely no sense.  but i setup a linux gateway and up'd my network preformance by 50%  on dialup connection.....03:35
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Crellnosrednaekim: fester: Does that ring a bell for either of you? :-)03:35
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nosrednaekimCrell: hmm.03:35
CrellI get the same if I select the option to check the CD itself.03:36
nosrednaekimnope, never seen it do that03:36
nosrednaekimCrell: did you google your laptop model name and "ubuntu"?03:37
CrellNot yet.  Sec.03:37
nosrednaekimor search through linux-laptops.com?03:37
CrellI looked it up on ThinkWiki.org before buying.03:37
CrellIt seemed to be a safe bet from what I found there.03:37
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nosrednaekimALWAYS google first03:38
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nosrednaekimand they said it was fine?03:38
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nosrednaekimhmm... have you tryed any other distros?03:39
CrellWell huh.03:39
nosrednaekimlike suse?03:39
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CrellI've never used SuSE.03:40
CrellOne sec.03:40
nosrednaekimwell, if you can't find anything on the internet about problems with the laptop and linux, start trying out other distros..03:40
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intelikeymandriva suse fedora slackware debian gentoo ubuntu knoppix ...03:41
nosrednaekimesp. Knoppix03:42
intelikeyof that list i haven't used suse or gentoo, but that is the "major" players i think.03:42
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intelikeyBluesKaj redhat is no longer free   but fedora is redhat.free  so  yeah03:43
BluesKajnever tried gentoo...ppl scared me off03:43
nosrednaekimintelikey: never used gentoo? I would think that that was the distro tailor made for your eccentric CLI habits03:43
CrellHm.  Switching SATA into Compatibility Mode (whatever that is) made it boot.03:43
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intelikeynosrednaekim probably is.   but dialup precludes it03:43
Daisuke_Idocompatibility with IDE03:44
nosrednaekimintelikey: oh yeah...my poor brother and his gentoo on dial up :)03:44
CrellAh.  Instead of ACHI, which is whatever the new-fangled thing is?03:44
Daisuke_Idosomething like that03:44
CrellWow that's crisp.03:44
nosrednaekimintelikey: actually its faster if you can get all the base packages since you can update simply using diffs between versions of packages :)03:44
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intelikeynosrednaekim faster than having the cd shipped in ?   i trow not03:45
nosrednaekimhmm.. I guess thats a problem...03:46
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nosrednaekimsee, our dad can DL big stuff like that at work.. so thats how we get by.03:46
intelikeynosrednaekim one other factor you may have not calculated in.  i don't want/need/like  all the latest    give me stable and for now ubuntu LTS seems to fill that bill ok.03:47
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nosrednaekimCrell: so, its all woking now?03:47
TooEarlyi'm using the program Devede and everytime i try to encode a dvd to a higher bitrate or any bitrate.. it outputs to the same file size which is around 2.9gigs anyone know what the problem is03:47
nosrednaekimintelikey: right.03:47
Crellnosrednaekim: Trying to get network working now, then I install./03:47
mneptokTooEarly: what kind of filesystem are you saving on?03:47
CrellI still have to decide if I'm going to wipe the restore partition on the disk or not. :-)03:47
nosrednaekimCrell: I didn't..03:48
nosrednaekimits only a couple gigs right? like 5?03:48
mneptokTooEarly: does the Linuk NTFS driver have a maximum file size limitation?03:48
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CrellHaven't checked yet.03:48
TooEarlyi'm not sure03:48
CrellThis is its first successful boot.  This computer has never booted Windows, nor will it. :-)03:48
mneptokTooEarly: exactly ;)03:49
nosrednaekimfor XP its like 6 ( on my computer)03:49
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nosrednaekimCrell: try denying the EULA!03:49
nosrednaekimand fight it in court03:49
TooEarlymneptok: so you think that's the problem then?03:49
intelikeynosrednaekim and yeah depending on someone else to get the iso was how i got hedhat mandrake and slackware...   but i hate to seem like "the fellow with his hand out" to my friends...   know what i mean?03:49
Crellhehe.  Unfortunately it doesn't come with CDs, so I can't do the refund. :-)03:49
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mneptokTooEarly: try saving to ext3, just to be sure.03:49
TooEarlykk will do03:49
nosrednaekimCrell: on the contrary...you don't need to. have the CDs03:50
Jmanfooalright i have looked and looked, is there a kde version of gnome-snapshot for the command line?03:50
nosrednaekimCrell: just take shot of you denying the liscence. And since Lenovo is about to start shipping suse notbooks, they really can't say the computer is worthles without the OS and grabage like that03:51
mneptoknosrednaekim: Lenovo isn't shipping their laptops with SuSE.03:51
nosrednaekimJmanfoo: ksnapshot?03:51
nosrednaekimwait.. for the CLI?03:51
sparrlocalepurge just deleted over 100MB worth of locale data that i didn't want...  thats both amazing and disturbing.  does ubuntu have any system to legitimately manage locale data?  its silly to waste that much disk space on files that I will never use.03:51
nosrednaekimmneptok: they just announced it!03:51
intelikeyJmanfoo is that an oxymoron ?    "kde version of gnome-snapshot for the command line" ????03:51
mneptoknosrednaekim: they announced a *single* model of IBM Thinkpad will have a SuSE option.03:52
intelikeyheh  "kde version * for the command line" ?03:52
mneptok(i.e. not their hardware)03:52
nosrednaekimmneptok: w/e it doesn't matter, point is they can't deny that erasing vista makes the laptop unusable03:52
nosrednaekimthey make all the IBM thinkpads.03:53
intelikeysparr localpurge03:53
nosrednaekimunless they are selling refurbished ones.. ;)03:53
sparrintelikey: localepurge03:53
intelikeydoes ubuntu have any system to legitimately manage locale data? <<< localpurge03:54
intelikeyoh with an e you say ?03:54
Networkgameranyone have the mirrors for ubuntu install iso's handy?03:55
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intelikeyNetworkgamer did you look on the buuntu.com page ?03:55
sparrintelikey: localepurge is not legitimate, it deletes package-managed files without notifying the package manager03:56
NickPrestasparr, I thought it deleted local files on your system that weren't specific to your locale03:56
sparrNickPresta: it does.  files that are owned by other packages03:56
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sparrNickPresta: Debian Policy, from whence ubuntu sprung, says thats a no-no03:57
intelikeysparr most locales are owned by other packages    duh03:57
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xbaccould anyone point me in the direction of installing a new video card?03:57
NickPrestasparr, I just read it's man page. I understand.03:57
nosrednaekimxbac: installing physically, or the software for it?03:57
sparrintelikey: yes.  hence the question.  is there a "right" way to fix this problem?  or is localepurge's hacky approach the best option?03:58
xbaci guess03:58
intelikeysparr  right is what ever works for you.03:58
Networkgamerwhat im looking for is a ps3 install iso for ubuntu 6.0403:58
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sparrintelikey: assume, for the sake of argument, that localepurge doesn't "work", because it breaks other packages03:58
xbaci tried to do the -reconfigure xserver-org and it says that its not installed on the system03:58
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intelikeywhat did it break ?03:59
Jmanfoowhat is the "super" key?03:59
xbaci have an onboard and im trying to switch to an nvidia03:59
nosrednaekimJmanfoo: ussually the windows key03:59
NickPrestaJmanfoo, usually the Windows key03:59
nosrednaekimJmanfoo: got beryl working?03:59
Jmanfooi sure did :-D03:59
Jmanfoohmm i have the win key bound to the kmenu03:59
sparrJmanfoo: usualy the windows Key04:00
Jmanfoothat will probably screw it up04:00
intelikeysparr what did it break ?04:00
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sparrintelikey: it breaks every package that it touches04:00
sparrintelikey: heaven help me if I ever DO decide to switch to a chinese locale04:00
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Jmanfooi'm VERY much impressed with beryl though04:00
BluesKajnite all04:00
intelikeysparr   so    apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install  $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)                                                                                   and every package is disbrokened then...04:01
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NickPrestasparr, assume that I would never switch to another locale, what are the foreseeable problems?04:01
nosrednaekimJmanfoo: pretty sweet eh?04:01
nosrednaekimnight all!04:02
intelikeyYour current time zone is set to /dev/null04:02
Jmanfoovery very nice04:02
Networkgamerwell i g2g too04:03
Guvneranybody in here use firefox to work with the "Log me in" program ?04:03
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intelikeyback in a few.    food.04:03
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xbacso if i want to install this new video card just throw it in and wait through the frozen ubuntu startup logo?04:06
sparrNickPresta: apparently, and this is from experience, some programs will 'fall back' to a locale they provide if they don't provide the one you want04:06
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sparrNickPresta: case in point...  ive got a program with no locale data, it SEEMS that it only provides en_GB, which i purged04:07
sparrNickPresta: i was only keeping en and en_US04:07
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sparrNickPresta: now, technically, the package is buggy because it should provide en (no suffix) if its only going to provide one of them...  but thats nitpicking04:07
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yurimxpxmanhow can I setup postfix to use smtp.gmail.com ?04:09
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underdog5004hey squaretro, did you get that figured out?04:11
underdog5004it was an xorg.conf problem, right?04:11
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squaretrocouldnt find it04:12
underdog5004hmmm, bummer04:12
underdog5004so...what are you doing now?04:12
ZeroToleranceSomeone help me with logitech usb headset?04:13
squaretroi went to change video cards then loaded in recovery mode and did the reconfigure xserver-org and it says its not installed04:13
squaretroim searching the forums04:13
squaretroand google04:13
ZeroToleranceI connected it to kunbuntu, it detects it but no sound comes out when i play something.04:13
squaretrobut nothing04:13
underdog5004you did sudo dpkg --configure -phigh xserver-xorg?04:13
underdog5004ZeroTolerance, you need to go into system settings > sound and tell it that the usb headset is your default sound device.04:14
squaretroxseerver-org is not installed on the system it says?04:14
underdog5004squaretro, seriously?04:14
underdog5004that's pretty serious...04:14
squaretroit makes no sense04:14
underdog5004try this04:14
underdog5004sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg04:14
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Level15!desktop effects04:16
ubot3Factoid desktop effects not found04:16
Level15what happened to ubotu?04:16
Tm_Ton vacation04:16
ubot3Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:16
squaretrok restarting04:17
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ZeroToleranceunderdog5004 I went there but only have 2 tabs hardware and general. Doesn't say anything about designating the headset priority.04:21
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underdog5004ZeroTolerance, h/o04:21
ZeroToleranceIm in SoundSystem - System Settings.04:22
underdog5004ZeroTolerance, you can tell it to Override device location04:23
underdog5004check that and give it the device name of the headset04:23
underdog5004might be something like /dev/dsp or dsp0 or dsp104:23
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elite101hey what is the command line for java JRE6?04:28
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elite101anyone know it?04:29
elite101yes no?04:29
ZeroToleranceunderdog5004 am I going to have to restart at all?04:29
ubot3To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository04:29
intelikeyelite101 idk.04:29
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elite101err i need the konsole command because adept wont let me select <ok>04:30
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elite101its like sudo apt get-install java-jre-6 or something04:30
intelikeyelite101 if the package is in the repos     sudo apt-get install "it"04:31
elite101well it is but i dont know what the command line is?04:31
intelikeyelite101 apt-cache search java04:31
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intelikeydaz what the search feature is foo04:32
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intelikeyfoe  ?    what   ever04:32
elite101search feature?04:34
elite101in adept?04:34
elite101lol java agreement wont work in adpet it doesnt let u select <ok>04:34
underdog5004ZeroTolerance, I have no idea...04:35
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ubot3To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository04:35
intelikeyelite101 no not in adept   in apt   and you are not reading my responces to your querry04:36
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intelikey<intelikey> elite101 apt-cache search java04:37
mneptokelite101: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin04:37
intelikey<intelikey> elite101 if the package is in the repos     sudo apt-get install "it"04:37
elite101yeah but there is a command line for it04:37
mneptokelite101: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin04:37
elite101forget it04:37
inaetyhello i am trying to install kubuntu 704 but it is trying to download my package lists and well i have no internet connected..04:37
intelikeyelite101: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin04:37
intelikeyelite101: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin04:37
intelikeyelite101: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin04:37
intelikeyok forgotten04:37
elite101thats all i needed?04:38
elite101why didnt u say that in the first place?04:38
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intelikeynow you are glad i'm not an opper04:38
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mneptoktoo slow04:39
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intelikeyheh...   care to try again ?   :)))04:39
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intelikey/kick elite10104:40
intelikeyoh well     so i'm not malisous04:41
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inaetyyou guys know about skipping the downloading package lists part of the installation?04:42
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mneptokinaety: it should timeout on its own04:44
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inaetymneptok: thats what i thought but its been 20 minutes04:44
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intelikeyinaety are you talking on the same box ?04:45
inaetyi dont want to kill the installation04:45
intelikeyi mean is the box actually connected ?04:45
inaetyno intelikey then it would have downloaded the package lists :P04:46
inaetymneptok: you want me to hit escape?04:46
Tm_Tinaety: with axe04:46
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inaetyoh i see...04:48
inaetymneptok: should i hit esc or ctrl-c04:48
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intelikeyyou know ubuntu should come with a warning, "not for use on computers that are not connected to the internet, or have slow down load speeds!"04:48
adenicioparty like a rock star04:49
adeniciohello everybody :-)04:49
intelikeyshould be right on the web page04:49
inaetymneptok: that did...nothing04:49
mneptoktry ctl-c04:49
underdog5004intelikey, so true04:50
adenicioi love this place many people cant help u with allmost every prob u have with feisty and many cant04:50
adeniciook here my prob i install beryl but nothing is working no effects.why is that?04:50
adeniciook here my prob i install beryl but nothing is working no effects.why is that?04:50
intelikeyinaety alt+ctrl+esc   if you want to "kill" it04:50
jhutchinsintelikey: Actually, maybe the live CD should check for a good connection to the servers and warn if installation is impractical.04:50
underdog5004adenicio, you need to select beryl as your desktop environment04:51
jhutchinsadenicio: Once is plenty thank you.04:51
intelikeyjhutchins heh.  yeah. more things to "time out"  :)04:51
inaetymneptok: nothing04:51
adeniciounderdog5004: how do i do that im a beginner04:51
inaetyand intelikey, i don't want to stop installing at 83%!04:51
underdog5004look under kmenu > System (or Settings, or Utilities) for Beryl Settings Manager. It should have a nice red gem next to it.04:52
CrellWhy is my Feisty install sitting at 34% and not moving? :-(04:52
hitmanWillywow, did the servers crash?04:52
jhutchinsSo many designers these days just assume broadband.  Us poor americans with the lousiest internet penetration in the world really suffer.04:52
underdog5004adenicio, try to soak up what people tell you, to see the logic behind it; don't just write what we tell you, understand what you're writing.04:52
adeniciojhutchins: ok changhai04:52
intelikeyinaety you can use a process manager and kill what ever is halted and if you are lucky that won't kill the install   but the live CD is not the way to install  imo.04:52
inaetyi did it...04:52
inaetyintelikey: im too lazy to use text...what is this, slackware?04:53
inaetyi got the internet running04:53
inaetyi was just..too lazy to do that too :P04:53
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Scorpaenhow do i edit my PATH variable?04:55
Scorpaenneed this urgently04:55
adeniciounderdog5004: it wouldt be complicated if it was windows but just to find something here or to enter something u have to do 1.2.3 tell 10 windows its 1 then 1004:55
Scorpaentrying to enroll in school and Adobe Acrobat plugin doesn't work04:55
adeniciohow do i get beryl as your desktop environment?04:56
hitmanWillyScorpaen, what browser?04:56
hitmanWillyScorpaen, and yo installed the plugin via repos?04:56
Scorpaenno couldn't find it04:56
Scorpaenwhat is it called?04:56
Scorpaeni used source install script04:56
Scorpaenwhat is it called in apt?04:57
CrellIf the install process freezes at 34%, but the system doesn't, what's the proper course of action?04:57
hitmanWillyScorpaen, try apt-cache search adobe to find the name04:57
adeniciojhutchins: how do i get beryl as my desktop environment04:57
ubot3Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:57
underdog5004adenicio, I already told you04:57
hitmanWillyScorpaen, plus, you don't have to use adobe's plugin for pdfs, either04:57
underdog5004you need to learn how to learn.04:57
adenicioScorpaen: how do i get beryl as my desktop environment04:57
jhutchinsadenicio: This is not a beryl support channel.04:58
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jhutchinsWE can all see your question, repeating it to individuals has no effect other than to annoy everyone.04:58
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underdog5004I'm annoyed.04:58
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underdog5004 /kick adencio, please?04:59
adeniciounderdog5004:  u didnt tell me how to it04:59
underdog5004look under kmenu > System (or Settings, or Utilities) for Beryl Settings Manager. It should have a nice red gem next to it.04:59
underdog5004that's what I wrote about 5 minutes ago04:59
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underdog5004see how polite and concise it is?05:00
jhutchinsunderdog5004: we don't kick people for not understanding.05:00
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underdog5004how about for not comprehending by choice?05:00
saki_kninwith wath comand iI can change password05:00
intelikeyjhutchins no.  but some times we want too....  ;/05:00
underdog5004saki_knin, sudo passwd username05:00
jhutchinsunderdog5004: If he's not going to respond sensibly, just ignore him.  Use /ignore if you need to.05:00
underdog5004jhutchins, noted. Thank you.05:00
saki_kninno, on irc05:00
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adeniciounderdog5004: im running beryl allready its in the bar de tache05:01
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intelikeysaki_knin use  /msg nickserv help05:01
hitmanWillysaki_knin, /msg NickServ register should help you with that05:01
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adeniciounderdog5004: but none of the option like rain bed the windows are workin05:01
underdog5004adenicio, I told you how to do it. For the last time, you need to start beryl-settings-manager and right click on the gem in the task bar and Select Window Manager > Beryl. I'm ignoring you now.05:02
adeniciounderdog5004: bend05:02
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underdog5004sorry for my hate, everyone.05:04
intelikeythe strangest of charictors seem so normal in places like belview and on irc ....05:04
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underdog5004different strokes for different folks05:05
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zimmowhy does my installation fail?05:05
zimmointelikey help me!05:05
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TheNo1YetiDoing it wrong.05:05
intelikeyzimmo what hardware and what install cd ?05:06
zimmoall systems possible05:06
adeniciounderdog5004: im not listen to u again.by doing that it crash and reboot the sys05:06
zimmoi tried kubuntu, dreamlinux, debian05:06
zimmoall them fail!05:06
zimmoall they fail!05:07
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underdog5004zimmo, do you have some kind of exotic hardware?05:07
zimmoit was on perfect state then i tried to install the dreamlinux05:07
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zimmoand i can not install any system anymore!05:07
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zimmolet me explain the error05:08
zimmoi advance forward until the installation of the base system ok?05:08
zimmothen it simply stop installing... but do not accuse any error05:09
zimmoit simply stops!05:09
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jhutchinszimmo: Are you using the alternative install CD?  Have you verified the MD5sum of the actual CD?05:10
zimmowell, i tried 3 different cds05:10
zimmoit has any difference between cd quality?05:10
zimmofor example a cd of 1 buck and a cd of 3 bucks05:10
jhutchins!br | zimmo just for reference05:10
ubot3zimmo just for reference: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.05:10
DarthToadzimmo, have you tried VGA safe mode?05:10
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zimmoalso i did it05:11
zimmobut the debian install is no in GUI05:11
jhutchinszimmo: I would recommend that you burn the alternative CD and verify it's md5sum, then try some of the options it offers like safe vga mode.05:11
jhutchinszimmo: Does the live CD run on your system?05:12
zimmobut i have tried also the same cd i have tried before05:12
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jhutchinsThen the install will eventually work.05:12
zimmoi am running from the dreamlinux live cd, it is lighter05:12
intelikeyjhutchins not bad advice but i rather doubt that the vga settings will affect the installer app while it is running ???   maybe i missed something there.05:12
zimmook but if a cd worked before, why does is it not working anymore?05:12
jhutchinszimmo: Usually physical damage to the cD, like a scratch.05:13
DarthToadVGA has saved the day for me with my ATI card , but this was a few ubuntu releases ago05:13
zimmojhutschins probably05:13
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zimmoand what is the best way of downloading safely05:13
jhutchinsThat or the return spring on the read head weakens and it doesn't track correctly.05:13
intelikeyDarthToad indeed   but i assume the issue was you couldn't get to the installer  rather than the installer hanging     no ?05:14
jhutchinszimmo: Whatever, just check both the downloaded file's md5 and the md5 of the actuall cd when you burn it.05:14
zimmohow can i do it?05:14
zimmofrom Nero I mean05:14
underdog5004zimmo, I prefer bittorrent, because the file gets checked constantly.05:14
DarthToadintelikey, I think so, yes05:14
jhutchinszimmo: Nero is one of the reasons I quit using windows.05:14
adeniciojhutchins: for u to use beryl u must have a nvidea or ati card?05:14
underdog5004adenicio, or intel05:14
jhutchinszimmo: but nero should be able to verify a CD after burning.05:14
zimmocan you recommend me any software else?05:14
jhutchinszimmo: In linux, with the cd unmounted, md5sum /dev/cdr05:15
intelikeyzimmo "knoppix"05:15
underdog5004zimmo, Alex Fienmans Iso Recorder is good05:15
jhutchinszimmo: I don't use windows, so I use k3b to burn CD's.05:15
zimmojhutchins but do you realize i can not download a iso in a LIVE CD station05:15
zimmoit can not be stored only in RAM memory05:16
jhutchinszimmo: And seriously, check out kubuntu-br.  Not quite as busy, but sometimes easier to understand.05:16
intelikeyzimmo yes it can   put it on hd05:16
jhutchinszimmo: Actually, you can mount any writable partition and save it there.05:16
zimmoi understand english but i am freaking i can not pay attenction on grammatics now05:16
jhutchinszimmo: But download in windows if you need to.05:16
zimmoor grammar!05:17
jhutchinszimmo: I would be surprised if nero doesn't have a way to check the md5sum of the .iso file.  Not very, but surprised.05:17
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zimmowell, i am tired of it05:17
jhutchinszimmo: That's what i mean, sometimes it's easier not to have to translate.05:17
zimmoi am trying to re install a Linux system from 3 days05:17
zimmoi read it perfectly05:17
CrellGah!  It did it again.05:18
zimmothere is no problem with linux and i do prefer in english answers05:18
jhutchinszimmo: Thousands are installed every day, you'll figure it out.05:18
intelikeyCrell   "it"  ?05:18
hitmanWillyintelikey, im assuming his install05:18
CrellHas anyone else had an issue with the Kubuntu install getting to 34% and then stopping?05:18
zimmothe problem is how, it is a kind of a curse05:18
jhutchinszimmo: My wife has been teaching herself what Cervantes called "The Beautiful Language".05:18
zimmobut i guess it is really a CD-ROM problem05:18
jhutchinsCrell: verify your CD.05:19
zimmowhat do you mean jhutchins05:19
underdog5004Crell, may be a problem with RAM05:19
jhutchinszimmo: Portugese!05:19
Crellunderdog5004: I already ran memcheck and it didn't have a problem.05:19
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intelikeyCrell i have not seen it but i have heard reports   and some have said if they let it set there for about a half an hour it would resume....  i'm not sujesting that but it could be something timming out.05:19
zimmojhutchins: portuguese is my native language05:19
jhutchinszimmo: I know.05:20
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zimmowell, i have to get a better software in XP to burn the isos again05:20
Crellintelikey: Any idea what it's doing around 34%?  It would be helpful if it said.05:20
intelikeyCrell you can open a konsole and check     ps -A x05:21
zimmojhutchins: portuguese is the language of the excepcions05:21
jhutchinszimmo: I will tell her that.05:21
zimmonobody can speak the right portuguese even we05:21
intelikeyCrell last things before the konsole itself is what it's doing.05:21
CrellI'll try that next, after the CD verify.05:21
intelikeypstree is nice too   but i'm not sure it's avalable on the live CD05:22
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jhutchinsGood night all, and good luck.05:23
zimmogood night05:23
intelikeypstree -p05:23
intelikeyjhutchins shalom05:23
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SilentDisi'm looking for a package, and hoping someone can offer recommendations.  Got a pair of linux boxen here, this one (kubuntu 7.04), and an old laptop (xubuntu 6.10).  I'd like to monitor the packet traffic in/out on the kubuntu machine using a term based or very simple gui based program on the xubuntu laptop.  the laptop has all of a P1 300 and 64mb ram.  any suggestions?05:26
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adeniciojhutchins: how do i get to the room ubuntu effects05:27
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tank71SilentDis: I would like to know how to do that too lol05:28
Drumhello, how can i download something from the internet05:28
CrellSilentDis: Wireshark is the standard GUI traffic checker.05:28
Drumi try to download http://www.liquidweather.net/phpmv2/phpmyvisites.php?url=http%3A//www.message.co.nz/%7Ematt-sarah/lwp-14.8.skz&id=1&pagename=FILE:File%3Alwp-latest-mirror105:28
SilentDisadenicio: /join #ubuntu-effects :)05:28
intelikeyapt-cache search sniff       maybe ?05:28
SilentDistank71: damnit lol05:28
Drumbut this link is opening with "kate"05:28
CrellBut if you're on a switch instead of a hub, you may not even get the packets you're after.05:28
adenicioSilentDis: tks05:29
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hitmanWillyDrum, right click, save link as05:29
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SilentDisi fully expected to be running a 'server' of sorts on this machine, and a client on the remote laptop.  heck, even something i can ssh into from the lappy would cover me.05:29
whizadreehmm brb05:29
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CrellOh good.  Errors found in 5 files.  WHY!!!05:29
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intelikeyadenicio jhutchins has signed off   but to answer your Q   /j #ubuntu-effects05:30
whizadreeok script works at last05:30
DrumhitmanWilly: in this case, the link will be saved as phpmyvisites.php05:30
intelikeyadenicio or /join   most irc clients alias /j as /join  but not all05:30
SilentDisCrell: wireshark, last i looked, is a bit large for what i'm needing.  Jmon, as example, is awesome for monitoring use and such05:30
DarthToadSilentDis: ngrep might work for you05:31
SilentDis!info ngrep05:32
ubot3ngrep: grep for network traffic. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.44-1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB05:32
intelikeymy server is busy...    high lag time.05:32
SilentDisDarthToad: thanks, i'll look into it :)05:32
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DarthToadno problem05:32
hitmanWillyDrum, ok, that's a php script that isn't running properly05:32
Drumhow stupid is this konquer + kate05:33
Drumthe link have been saved as binary in kate05:33
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hitmanWillyDrum, alright, there may be a workaround here...open up a konsole05:33
intelikeyvery very high lag time...    *** -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 64.512 seconds ***05:34
DrumhitmanWilly: ok05:34
DrumhitmanWilly: opened05:34
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hitmanWillyDrum, ok, right click and copy link location05:34
hitmanWillyDrum, in the browser05:34
CrellHrm.  My md5sum checks out.05:35
whizadreeis underdog5004 around??05:35
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DrumhotmanWilly: i try to wget link but this doesn't work too05:35
hitmanWillyDrum, crap, ok...05:36
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DrumhitmanWilly: this is a mirror not direct link..05:36
elite101hey where is the colour sheme changer? i wanna change the colour sheme to black and gray05:36
Drumjust don't have idea how to save this link, maybe to install another browser05:36
Drumi have found , that kate open link evry time05:37
Drummaybe to remove kate?05:37
hitmanWillyDrum, that's just kate trying to open the php script05:38
intelikeyelite101 colour of what ?05:38
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hitmanWillyDrum, it thinks its a text file, which it kinda is, actually05:38
intelikeyelite101 right click it ?    if it's a window check it's menus05:38
DrumhitmanWilly: yes..05:39
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intelikeyoops he's gone.05:39
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labwere u from05:39
adenicioI JUS FOUND OUT my graphic card cannot handle compiz beryl etc...there goes my dream of having the cube desktop goes up in flames05:39
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hitmanWillyDrum, you may be able to look at the script and figure out where the redirect is going05:39
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geniiJust got my new box installed at home :)05:40
whizadreeadenicio: desktop or laptop?05:40
hitmanWillyDrum, but then again, maybe not, im pretty clueless when it comes to php :P05:40
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DrumhitmanWilly: do you know alternative to kate? becouse probaly i'm going to remove it05:41
Drumany :)05:41
adeniciowhizadree: desk05:41
silveracewow...heheheheh               HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHH    iam free of windows YAhhhooooo05:41
hitmanWillyDrum, you can't remove it otherwise the system will try to pull all of kde05:41
whizadreeadenicio: well your lucky its easy to replace or install a second05:42
silveracehello all05:42
whizadreesilverace: hey05:42
DrumhitmanWilly: then maybe i will install opera..05:42
hitmanWillyDrum, do you have issues with FF?05:42
geniiSomething annoying tho...ctrl-alt-f1 OK but back with alt-f7 produces only a white screen. restart of gdm/kdm doesn't help. i810 driver used, mb manual says onboard is "Intel GMA X3000"05:42
adenicionow i cant even show these people how great linux is.where i am right now no one knows about linux wich sucks.i dont have no one to talk to about linux05:42
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adeniciowhizadree: a second what?05:43
DrumhitmanWilly FireFox? yes05:43
whizadreeDrum: whats the extension thats kate keeps opening05:43
DrumFireFox iss also good browsr05:43
silveracejust intsalll kubunto linux  yesterday,,,,never used anything otyher then windows before,,05:43
DarthToadAny Konversation users know if it supports themes? It looks like you have to set every color05:43
intelikeyadenicio you always have us05:43
hitmanWillyDrum, it seems to be a little easier to use than konq, altho it is somewhat more buggy05:43
intelikeyadenicio i think he meant a second graphics card05:44
Drumwhizadree: php and an arhive file :)05:44
silveracealot of reading ,,yup,,,but i think iam getting the hang of it,,the hardest part was setting up my video and dvd play back,,,wow,,,,what a bitch that was05:45
adeniciointelikey: yeah but im a beginner u all know much more then me.i could even find adept maneger and it was looking at me :-(05:45
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whizadreewell kate does have that option of removing filetypes in setting maybe its locked into that under markup/05:45
Drumbut i can-t download opera, there is also an php redirect to archive :)05:45
intelikeyadenicio we all started the same way05:45
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Drumhope that ff provide direct link..05:45
whizadreesomething like settings , filetypes05:46
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geniiunderdog5004: Thanks :) Much appreciated05:46
intelikeyadenicio some justed started longer ago.   kinda like life eeh05:46
agmowreyIs anybody here?05:46
silveracei read that kubuntu was the easiest for first timers to use...i still have xp but on my other drive..gonna use this os for a while05:46
geniiunderdog5004: Now i got my new home computer set up I'll be on at night so i'll definitely need caffeine!05:46
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underdog5004ha ha05:47
intelikeywooops that was supposed to be sugger05:47
whizadreehey underdog5004 still havent set up email :-P05:47
underdog5004whizadree, np05:47
whizadreebeen offline for 24hrs to05:47
underdog5004intelikey, someone put sugar in the salt shaker?! it's not April!05:47
genii@lart intelikey05:47
underdog5004whizadree, what was the problem again?05:47
underdog5004ha ha05:48
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silveraceiam installed the 64bit version...by the way   WOW...this os is great..ill just use my xp for media, games now05:48
geniiintelikey: I'm awake I'm awake! :) ROFL05:48
whizadreeheh underdog5004 it was the case of the vacationing eth0 card05:48
intelikeygenii   :)05:48
whizadreesilverace:  try wine for some games they even work better and faster05:49
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intelikeysilverace why media... never mind you said 64bit    got it.05:49
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hitmanWillysilverace, just be aware that the 64 bit arch is a little bit less well supported than 3205:49
underdog5004oh right!05:49
underdog5004erm...@ whizadree ^05:49
agmowreyHow do you edit the open source?05:50
adeniciointelikey: lol.anyway im going to watch some manga then go to sleep got work 2morow to make money for that ati or nivedea card05:50
intelikeyadenicio make it nv05:50
whizadreeunderdog5004:  i just wanted to be sure it wasnt messed up so i installed vista over it , and it found the net card05:50
intelikeyadenicio you'll be glad you did05:50
silveraceok,,yeah,,,,i realized that when i look at the os requirments for programs ..ah well..about time i took advantage of the chip right!?!05:51
hitmanWillyadenicio, go with the nvidia, ati cards blow05:51
hitmanWillysilverace, it is possible to run a multiarch system, but its a major pita05:51
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silveraceiam so glad this came with a chat client...ive so many questions i cant think of ONE to ask lol05:52
adeniciointelikey: someone in the ubuntu effects room told me ati are more compatible05:52
hitmanWillyadenicio, ask him what he was smoking05:53
adeniciohitmanWilly: thats trus my ati blow on me05:53
silveracewhats a multiiarch system?05:53
adeniciohitmanWilly: lol05:53
hitmanWillysilverace, 32 and 64 bit system running side by side on the same machine05:53
underdog5004silverace, a system that runs programs that are compiled for different architectures, mainly 32 and 64 bit i38605:53
intelikeyadenicio more compatable with what ?   windows ?05:53
silveraceoh  :}  hehe05:54
underdog5004it's basically so you can run 32-bit programs on a 64-bit OS05:54
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intelikeyadenicio more compatable with, some M$ geek in redmound ?05:54
wolferineanyone good with amarok/ipods, I have emptied the device, but its only 413MB empty of 4GBs05:54
hitmanWillyunderdog5004, speaking of which, has that gotten any easier over the past couple years? last time I tried it I got VERY familair with chroot :)05:55
silveracei am however very impressed that i figured all this crap out in just 2 nights,,i was inspired when i purchased a new hard drive last week  lol  figured i put the old one to use lol05:55
underdog5004hitmanWilly, no idea...the only time I've ever chrooted was when I was building gentoo...what a pita05:55
underdog5004I'm...just not ready for the level of commitment that gentoo requires...05:56
hitmanWillyunderdog5004, well, i run gentoo over here, but yeah lol05:56
hitmanWillyunderdog5004, it only took me 12 hours to install kde :P05:57
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intelikeyunderdog5004 adds more knowledge...05:58
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silveraceplayed around with the hard drive jumper settings,,then wasted an hour or more worrying about dual boot,for nothing,,the kubuntu recognizes xp  ,,so yeah,,iam pretty impressed   lol05:58
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DarthToadhitmanWilly, I know Gentoo makes you compile everythning, but are you serious about 12 hours just for KDE packages05:58
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tengi am new for here..05:58
underdog5004hitmanWilly, ha ha, you're lucky...it took me 36 hours to compile KDE05:58
intelikey!welcome | teng05:59
hitmanWillyDarthToad, yup, depending on processor05:59
underdog5004I was on a laptop with a 1Ghz P3 and 256Mb RAM05:59
intelikeywhere's the bot ???05:59
tengso.. what's this room about?05:59
underdog5004intelikey, ubot3 is the bot05:59
wolferineanyone good with amarok/ipods, I have emptied the device, but its only 413MB empty of 4GBs05:59
tengeverything about kubuntu?05:59
whizadreehitmanWilly: are you kidding?05:59
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DarthToadWow, i am simultaneously impressed and horrified05:59
whizadree36hrs ?05:59
ubot3Factoid welcome not found05:59
intelikeyteng official kubuntu help channel05:59
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silveraceso .i finally downloaded the right codecs for dvd play back,,,but yeah,,any suggestions on whats good a nd what is'nt is highly apprcted06:00
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waltercoolsomeone have problems mounting portable hard disks with ntfs?06:00
intelikey!hi | teng06:00
ubot3teng: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:00
tengwell... it seems like i find my way to understand more about kubuntu06:00
tenghi everyone06:00
whizadreefrom download to install and reboot to login 23 mins06:00
hitmanWillywhizadree, that was on a p3 1 ghz, 12 on mine with a 2 ghz athalon06:00
underdog5004yeah...it was terrible06:00
intelikey!bot | teng06:00
ubot3teng: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:00
underdog5004I just left the darn thing on...went to work, came home, slept, went to work, came home, ate dinner, and I had a gui!06:01
hitmanWillygentoo is a pain to get set up, but its not that difficult once you get it up and running06:01
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underdog5004I've also tried sabayon, but  just not to my liking...06:01
ubot3Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)06:01
tengexcuse me... what is binary4all?06:01
tengis that a forum?06:01
silveraceARE YOU F%$% KIDDING ME...uh heheheh  iam reading up on this os...no need for registry cleaners....no needd for alot of programs,,wow06:02
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underdog5004silverace, it's nice, for sure06:02
underdog5004everything (almost) that you pay for on windows is free for us06:02
The_Band-aidIs it libdvdcss that I need to play commerical DVD's?06:02
hitmanWillyplus the layout actually makes sense to me, and almost zero bloat, plus its a lot easier to tinker around in06:02
intelikeysilverace no need for firewalls or av software06:02
underdog5004disk burning software, partitioning tools, etc...06:02
The_Band-aidYou still need a firewall06:02
intelikey!virus | silverace06:02
ubot3silverace: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2106:02
The_Band-aidyou ALWAYS should have a firewall06:02
whizadreei just had a thought if you use wine and install windows programs would you need a reg cleaner to fix the winreg06:03
underdog5004and av if it's going to be a mail server for windows machines06:03
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hitmanWillyunderdog5004, i run clamav here just to see what I can catch :P06:03
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wolferinehow can I tell the type of a partition?06:04
The_Band-aidhave you caught anything yet?06:04
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intelikeyThe_Band-aid yes yes we know     everyone needs a firewall.       errr well unless your box is secure and doesn't need a firewall  then you don't...06:04
hitmanWillyThe_Band-aid, not on this box, but I haven't really been hunting them :P06:04
intelikeywolferine fdisk -l06:04
tenghow do i register for this room?06:04
The_Band-aidintelikey: until you have to filter traffic because some kiddie is DDOSing you06:04
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wolferineits a usb device06:05
intelikeyThe_Band-aid hard to DoS a dialup connection....06:05
ellipsysHey there... anyone ever gotten a Synaptics touchpad to work as per the instructions on the wiki?06:05
The_Band-aidwolferine: is it recognized by gparted or some other partition software?06:05
underdog5004intelikey, no, it's easy06:05
underdog5004you don't need as many requests to clog the tubes...06:06
whizadreeintelikey:  actually probably easier with DUP just do a ping flood and your stuck06:06
The_Band-aidintelikey: they've only got 56 kbps to clog06:06
silveraceyup...i said years ago,,if linux supports more hardware/drivers ect,,i d switch,,the time was finally now,,,and VISTA lol  my god this os is SOOOOOOOOOO much cleaner and i like the gui much better06:06
intelikeywolferine if it has a partition that should show the partition type.   note usb sticks don't all have partitiions and also partition type may not match fs type06:06
wolferineits an ipod06:06
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whizadreeThe_Band-aid: your on the same page as me06:06
The_Band-aidsilverace: look up beryl, you will die06:06
adeniciois there a way to save all my pack that are install to back them up nd put it on my hdd fat?06:06
The_Band-aidwhizadree: security is a hobby of mine06:06
intelikeywhizadree connection drops out but the box is unaffected.   you can do that to a firewall too06:07
silveracei have to write a love letter to ubuntu,,tell them my pains ,,how windows did me wrong,,,i never knew there where women,,i mean os out there like you lol lol06:07
whizadree<< used to work for an ISP in the UK ( Security and Leased Line Admin )06:07
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The_Band-aidintelikey: if you have to take the box offline then they have accomplished their goal06:07
The_Band-aidwhizadree: << spends way too much time on his sopha reading whitepapers06:07
intelikeyheh then they set their goals way too low    lol06:08
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The_Band-aidDDOS: distributed denial of service, if your denying the users service then you win, regardless of if it was you taking it offline or the user giving up06:08
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whizadreeThe_Band-aid: yup got passed that now have acute snow blindness for to much time looking at the screen06:08
The_Band-aidwizadree: I try to keep my brightness down :P, but I am starting to see the effects06:09
The_Band-aidwizadree: If I go blind I'll get a braile screen and use lynx06:09
The_Band-aidwizadree: << hardcore06:09
squaretrohey got it to work kinda06:09
squaretrothe video card thing06:09
silveracewhats BERYL..aonther version,,dont tell me! its great right?06:10
AliynsBeryl is great06:10
whizadreeThe_Band-aid:  theres KTTSMgR and KSayIt before that06:10
The_Band-aidsilverace: no it runs on top of your installation06:10
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sharp12Should I administer samba through the text editor or through the system settings/sharing?06:10
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squaretroive got a question06:11
The_Band-aidsharp12: if I am doing anything with daemons I edit the configs manually, I don't trust GUI's for important stuff06:11
intelikeyi should flush the rules just to prove the point...06:11
dsmith_anyone here eve deal with emperor linux, the company?06:11
DarthToadsilverace,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_window_manager06:11
wolferineanyone good with amarok/ipods, I have emptied the device, but its only 413MB empty of 4GBs06:11
silveracei havent been this ,,,well excited about computers in a long long while,,,06:11
whizadreeintelikey: did it work could you get out and could people still get in?06:11
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AliynsSliverace, youtube Beryl for some action video's if you're curious.06:12
sharp12TheBandaid:I can't get my windows box to look inside the linux box06:12
dsmith_Aliyns: thats what I did06:12
The_Band-aidhere's a question for everyone, is beryl considered a window manager or what?06:12
whizadreesilverace: search for Unbuntu Beryl on you tube06:12
The_Band-aidIts whatever metacity is called06:12
intelikeywhizadree yes.06:12
The_Band-aidsharp12: look for software that lets windows read linux partitions06:13
silveracebut every click iam learning something new,,,,should save all that stuff for later when iam used to this ,,,dont want to BLOW MY MIND lol06:13
whizadreeThe_Band-aid:  from my understanding yes its a WindowManager06:13
The_Band-aidsharp12: google for it, it does exist06:13
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squaretroim trying to use cedega and i just put another video card in and reconfigured xserver-org but cedegra tells me my video card is not properly configured06:13
The_Band-aidwizadree: thanks, I hate it when I call something the wrong thing and get deluged by people correcting me06:13
whizadreeintelikey: is there something im missing for decoding dvds , i play one and it says encrypted (no go away )06:14
squaretroopengl wont work06:14
wolferineanyone good with amarok/ipods, I have emptied the device, but its only 413MB empty of 4GBs06:14
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The_Band-aidwizadree: I have given up playing dvd's in linux, I think you need libdvdcss or something like that. I just rip them and keep em on my hdd.06:14
intelikey!dvd | whizadree06:15
underdog5004wolferine, I'm terrible. I've never owned an iPod, and I prefer xmms to Amarok06:15
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intelikeybot is dead06:15
silveraceall kidding aside though,,its really something to have so many groups working together to offer the world something thats works,,,reliable,,,safe,,,unlimited  choices in applications,,uhmm,,,why did i buy windows?06:15
wolferinenot exactly relevant06:15
intelikeydoes nessus use real users or psyudo users ?06:16
ubot3For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:16
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ubot3To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:16
ubot3Factoid dvdnav not found06:17
silveraceBAND AID,,dont give up..if i figured it out ,iam sure you can,,,mind ya it took me a few hours and many failed attemps but ,,,heheh06:17
ubot3Factoid libdvdnav not found06:17
whizadreewolferine:  try http://amarok.kde.org/forum/index.php/topic,13383.0.html06:17
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silveracei have like this perma smile on my face,,ive set up everything ,,everything i nedd so far ,,,my god i  wish i knew about this sooner,,06:19
titanix88ubotu dead?06:19
ubot3I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:20
silveracewhat is the best os in linux,,or most popular?06:20
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squaretrook i just have one question i have an older nvidia geforce like an mx 420 i think what should i pick for the driver?06:21
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hitmanWillysilverace, most popular, probably ubuntu, best, that depends on what you want06:21
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titanix88silverace: u should say what is the best gnu/linux distro?06:21
The_Band-aidsilverace: I stick with ubuntu and derivatives because they are well supported (I don't want to waste time getting hardware to work).06:21
rhinosaur665silverace: http://distrowatch.com/06:21
whizadreeheh i remember when REDHat was all the rage ... and 75% of my system could not be found or had real trouble building from source06:23
AliynsI've downloaded "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.11-pkg2.run" how do I install the drivers now? Its asking me to exit X06:23
silveracemy screen is set good..widescreen set at 1440x900...and the nvidia driver seeems to work fine...just my refresh rate is set at 65 or 63..would like to get it to 75..but it still looks good06:23
hitmanWilly!nvidia | Aliyns try installing it from the repos...06:23
ubot3Aliyns try installing it from the repos...: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:23
The_Band-aidAliyns: have you tried just enabling them in the restricted-manager? Its a lot easier than installing them from scratch06:24
DarthToadsilverace, you may find this link helpful http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty06:24
DarthToadmore specifically this section http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_setup_nVidia_drivers_in_7.0406:24
AliynsI'm using an 8800GTS so the repo's driver is to old, I tried using the restricted-manager last time but had to re install.06:24
hitmanWillyAliyns, nvidia-glx-new should work for you06:25
Aliynssudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new ?06:25
hitmanWillyAliyns, those are the 100 series drivers06:25
wolferinewhat program can you use to format your ipod?06:25
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hitmanWillyAliyns, that, then sudo nvidia-xconfig06:26
TooEarlymneptok: hey you around??06:26
Aliynsokay thanks, I'll give it a go now06:26
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intelikeywhat's an ipod ?06:26
ubot3For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod06:26
The_Band-aidthere ya go06:26
silveraceok,,just so ya know,,i spent 2 nights reading up,,and maybe 5 hours setting up,,,read i think every page on ubuntu  lol,,,felt like it anyways,,and kubuntu seems to be the best for me,,easy set up..welll  still some things need tweaking but06:26
whizadreeits a small pod for eyes06:26
hitmanWillywolferine, as far as i know, it should just read it as an external hd06:26
wolferineso you dont know06:26
intelikeyso what's an ipod ?06:27
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The_Band-aidsilverace: I've ran the three main ubuntu derivatives,  the main difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the overall look, and some programs06:27
titanix88aliyns: do something bad in the xorg.conf(like selecting radeon driver for nvidia) and restart x.bla...x knocked out .that's how i do it ;) lol06:27
hitmanWillyits like an mp3 player, but less capable06:27
The_Band-aidsilverace: xubuntu is lightning fast06:27
The_Band-aidsilverace: I have it on my other laptop, and it goes from login to ready to work in 2-3 seconds06:27
silveraceoh yeah! hmmmm! :)  heheh06:28
hitmanWillyanyway, im off, later06:29
AliynshitmanWilly, doing a sudo nvidia-xconfig gave me a terminal output saying something along the lines of backing up the old xorg.conf and replacing it with a new one is this what is ment to happen?06:29
silveraceill stick with this for now at least,,,if i try to many ill  lose time i need to learn this06:29
whizadreeim running unbuntu that was installed with gnome06:29
TooEarlyi'm using the program Devede and everytime i try to encode a dvd to a higher bitrate or any bitrate.. it outputs to the same file size which is around 2.9gigs anyone know what the problem is06:29
hitmanWillyAliyns, yup, now restart X and all should be good06:29
whizadreethen i installed everything Kubuntu06:29
whizadreethen removed GNOME-Desktop06:30
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hitmanWillyok, im really off now :)06:30
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sharp12when on a windows box what and it asks for user name and pass to the local host of my Kubuntu what should I put?06:31
silveraceyour using Kubuntu tuu? WHIZADREE?06:31
titanix88aliyns: u just ignored a pro advise...so saaaad...06:31
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AliynsYeah I regret it now, I have no video any more after restarting X lol06:32
intelikeynext day i have a clean "base" install to work with.06:32
TooEarlycan you guys recommend some programs to burn dvd videos06:32
silveraceohh,,,,,the audio set up,,yeah ,,,ok,,,its in stereo or mono,,id like 5.1 since i have the speakers hooked up06:32
intelikeyAliyns dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:32
AliynsUsing recovery mode or something?06:33
intelikeyfrom the console06:33
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intelikeyas root    or root jr.06:33
AliynsBlack screen means a black screen with no output, I can't do anything at the moment.06:33
AliynsControl Alt F1-8 doesn't do anything :(06:34
intelikeyoh framebuffering errors...06:34
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titanix88aliyns: press alt+f106:34
intelikeyboot with    nosplash vga=0x0f0506:34
underdog5004genii, my kde keeps restarting, seems like about every 2 minutes06:34
Aliynsalt+f1 got me no where either.06:34
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titanix88i mean ctsl+alt+f106:35
titanix88i mean ctsl+alt+f106:35
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intelikeytitanix88 catch up.06:35
AliynsShould I just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg on root from Recovery mode (which gives me output)06:35
dfreyWhere is the setting that specifies single-click or double-click to open a folder in konqueror?06:35
ubuntu_alguien habla espaol?06:35
intelikeyAliyns yes that should work06:35
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intelikey!es | ubuntu_06:36
ubot3ubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:36
erwinnecesito hacer unas consultas06:36
intelikey!es | erwin06:36
ubot3erwin: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:36
AliynsAnd you were talking about framebuffering errors, is that there anything I should do differently than default when reconfiguring it?06:36
sharp12when on a windows box and it asks for user name and pass to the local host of my Kubuntu what should I put?06:36
whizadreeok phew i thought i logged onto a spannish server there06:36
geniiunderdog5004: My condolences06:37
titanix88aliyns what card?06:37
titanix88aliyns what card?06:37
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AliynsInno3D 320MB if that matters.06:37
erwinim going to open a ciber cafe wiht ubuntu any body help my ?06:38
underdog5004genii, I don't want an irish coffee, I just want my computer to not freak out...lol06:38
titanix88intellykey nvidia-glx or glx-new?06:38
titanix88intellykey nvidia-glx or glx-new?06:38
The_Band-aiderwin: have you ever use a linux distribution before?06:38
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erwinubuntu clasic06:39
intelikeyAliyns "frame buffering errors" was a referance to the problem of the hopelessly black screen of headlessism you faced, the cause is that xorg is setting the vidio mode to something that the hardware can't display and then when it drops back to the console it's not dropping back to text mode it's dropping back to the "usplash" vidio mode "fbcon" has setup.   and thus you have two useless vidio modes   but no access to any 06:39
intelikeythey could always use    stm   to drop to tect mode.06:39
AliynsI see, so its more likely a problem with refresh rates and resolutions than drivers am I right?06:40
intelikeythat's one reason i don't like   usplash   it can leave you in the dark.06:40
TooEarlydoes anyone use dvd burning software?06:40
intelikeywhat is 8 seconds of eye candy one time at boot    compared to a recoverable system....06:40
underdog5004sorry to snap06:40
titanix88intelikey nvidia-xconfig does not work?06:41
intelikey"JUST SHOW ME THE TEXT" !!!06:41
intelikeytitanix88 ?06:41
The_Band-aidIn the next version of ubuntu, java needs to be less work to set up06:41
Daisuke_Idoapt-get install sun-java5-jre is a lot of work?06:42
intelikeyjava needs omited altogather.06:42
titanix88intelikey i mean as u r help aliyns from the first...06:42
silveracejava.? java is garbage06:42
Daisuke_Idointelikey: unfortunately that isn't an option at present06:42
Aliynstitanix88, I did an nvidia-xconfig before.06:42
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intelikeytitanix88 ^    </shrugs>06:42
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido why so ?06:43
silveracewell i have to do some more reading ,,thanks :) iam sure ill be back ,,06:43
silveraceoh oh06:43
intelikeydoes it hurt really really bad sonny boy ??06:44
silveracelinux MCE from what i understood,,latest version wont run on amd ????06:44
whizadreestill cant get compiz to work ...06:45
Level15whizadree: what error r u getting?06:45
whizadreehow do i test ..06:45
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silveracewhizadree..hey :) linux mce...does it run only on intel ?06:46
ranjani am having a problem creating a symbolic link06:46
ranjancan anyone help?06:46
Level15whizadree: you already installed? and do u have decent drivers for your card?06:46
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ubot3Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:47
whizadreeLevel15: what do you call decent with an ati x1400 :-P06:47
ranjanln -s /media/sda5/mozilla/.mozilla /home/ranjan/.mozilla cretes a file not a folder why?06:47
underdog5004because it's a symlink to a folder06:47
Level15links are files, in way06:47
whizadree.lnk files ..06:48
silveraceadept manager much better then synapic ,,,06:48
Level15whizadree: dude, no...06:48
underdog5004silverace, no, you're wrong06:48
The_Band-aidwhat is firefox's default installation directory06:48
underdog5004silverace, it's the other way around06:48
silveraceiam am06:48
Level15whizadree: so, did u already install the software?06:48
underdog5004The_Band-aid, /usr/bin/firefox06:48
underdog5004I think06:48
ranjan>> /media/sda5/mozilla/.mozilla is my firefox backup folder06:48
intelikeycommand to close a single port ?06:48
ranjani want to creta a link in my home folder to it06:49
whizadreeLevel15: yeah i 99% sure06:49
intelikeyitpables ???  what?06:49
whizadreemager is up there , with all the plugins06:49
whizadreemanager sorry06:49
Level15whizadree: ok, then fire up a konsole and run compiz06:49
firebird619Is there something that can be put into .asoundrc to get sound from both hw:0,0 and hw:0,1 at the same time?06:49
AliynsFor my video card adaptor do I select nv or nvidia using an 8800GTS?06:50
whizadreeFatal: Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system06:50
Level15dude... that's weirdo...06:50
ranjananyone? /media/sda5/mozilla/.mozilla is my firefox backup folder i need to create a symbolic link to it in my home folder06:51
Daisuke_Idonot really06:51
AliynsI have video now but with low res and it really doesn't feel as if I have full video acceleration from my hardware at all yet..06:51
Daisuke_Idoati or nvidia?06:51
Daisuke_IdoAliyns: if it's the default driver, you don't.06:51
rhinosaur665ranjan: the command that you posted above should do that06:52
ranjanwell it makes a file inside home whereas .mozilla should be a folder06:53
whizadreeLevel15: also tried sudo compiz -replace06:53
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silveracewow  me likes beryl06:53
aldincan someone tell me what ! and x mean in /etc/group06:53
silveracelol  thanks to who ever mentioned it06:53
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rhinosaur665ranjan: `cd /home/ranjan/.mozilla` and see what happens06:53
Aliyns8800GTS nvidia.06:54
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silveracei just need to get 5.1 speakers set up,,it can be done i hope!..right?06:54
ranjanrhinosaur665: no such file or directory06:54
silveraceoh and a flash player plugin06:54
rhinosaur665ranjan: when you issued the command to link it, was there an error of some sort?06:55
ranjanrhinosaur665: none06:55
rhinosaur665ranjan: also, if you do `ls -a` in your home folder, does .mozilla show up?06:55
Level15whizadree: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/enable_compizfusion_in_ubuntu_feisty/06:56
Level15whizadree: from what i read there, seems to be an ATI issue06:56
Level15ranjan: file $HOME/.mozilla06:56
ranjanrhinosaur665: nope but in konqueror it shows06:56
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ranjanrhinosaur665: actually it show but in red06:57
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Level15ranjan: what was the result of the command i just sent you?06:58
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ranjanrhinosaur665: /home/ranjan/.mozilla: broken symbolic link to `/media/sda5/mozilla/.mozilla'06:59
Level15there you go...06:59
Level15you created a symbolic link to something that doesn't exist06:59
rhinosaur665ranjan: are you sure your path exists and that sda5 is mounted?06:59
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ranjanrhinosaur665: i can browse to system:/media/sda5/mozilla/.mozilla in konqueror07:00
whizadreeLevel15: looking now at the page07:00
whizadreejust watched the video07:01
Level15ranjan: try to create the link from inside konqueror07:01
Level15whizadree: look at the comments on the bottom07:01
ranjanLevel15:  crl+shift and drag drop?07:01
Level15just drag and drop, konq will ask you if you want to link, copy or move07:01
Level15(i think)07:02
ranjanLevel15: i did it07:02
ranjanLevel15: this worked --> ln -s /media/data/mozilla/.mozilla /home/ranjan/.mozilla07:02
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ranjanLevel15 & rhinosaur665 thanks07:03
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Level15ranjan: ok, np. just out of curiosity, what was it what you had tried before?07:03
ranjan>> /media/sda5/.... instead of /media/data/.....07:04
notvis flash supposed to work more than half of the time?07:04
notvit works for me on the adobe site but other sites tell me i need to upgrade07:04
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Level15ranjan: oh, ok07:05
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ranjanthanks again folks and see ya'll later, need to configure the rest of my desktop07:05
Level15notv: flash is evil sometimes... i think it's b/c flash in windows is not just the player but some ActiveX control and some websites expect to use it...07:05
Level15ranjan: ok, np07:05
notvlevel15 is there any way around it?07:06
Level15notv: which website r u visiting? let me check what results i get07:06
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Level15notv: ok, i got a youtube video and some photo gallery... seems to be working here. what browser/flash version are u using?07:08
notvdoes the first video next to band members work for you?07:09
notvim using firefox
Level15tell me the captio so i can find it07:09
notvand the latest flash i believe its 907:09
notvi think i installed it from synaptic07:09
whizadreerestarting x brb07:10
Level15notv: ?07:11
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notvlevel15 im using firefox
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notvlevel15 did the first video work for you?07:11
Level15notv: please tell me the caption of the video so i know which one you are referring to07:12
notvlevel15: the first video under general info, next to the label band members07:12
notvlevel15 above the 2 youtube videos07:13
Level15notv: it's not a video, it's a picture slide... yes, it works07:13
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whizadreei got an error saying dpatch isnt installed07:13
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Level15notv: u on 32 or 64 bits? and check the flash version07:13
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notvcan you remind me how to check that07:13
Level15about:plugins on the location bar07:14
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Level15notv: ?07:16
whizadreedpatch issue resolved07:16
notvlevel15 sorry i cant find it07:17
notvim a noob i suck07:17
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Level15notv: ok, for the flash version... in the location bar of the browser, type in "about:plugins" without the quotes, hit enter.  it should say something like Shockwave Flash 9.0 r3107:19
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Level15and please tell mee the output of "uname -a" on a konsole too07:19
intelikeyhowto send "magic" wake on lan   packets ?07:20
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notvlevel15 oh hmm i guess i have 7.0 r6907:20
notvi bet i just need to upgrade it07:20
Level15notv: that should do it, yes07:20
intelikey7.0    syntax error07:20
intelikeythere is no month zero07:20
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intelikeyrelease code is   yeah.month07:21
ubot3I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:21
wolferinewhat is a good app to CD->mp3 my music collection, that can maintain my tags?07:21
Level15wolferine: konqueror07:21
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famanyone know how i can change the driver for my video card if kubuntu says these settings cannot be safely tested?07:21
fammines an intel 945 but im using an i800 driver07:22
Level15fam: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:22
wolferineLevel15, really?07:22
intelikeyhowto,  send "magic" wake on lan   packets ?    anyone ?07:22
Level15wolferine: yep :D07:22
wolferineLevel15, I really doubt that07:22
Level15put your cd on the drive, and on the location bar type audiocd:/07:23
intelikeyi want remote power on on my server boxen       ?07:23
Level15there are some folders there, one of them shoudl be mp3, another ogg... just drag the songs out07:24
famok got that open but if its showing that i have a intel 945 do i just replace i800 w/ i945?07:24
Level15i think the mp3 folder will  only be shown if kde was compiled against liblame or something.. not sure, though. i remember i did that on slackware long time ago07:25
stdinfam: ??07:25
intelikeyfam  i think it's  i910   but not sure.07:25
Daisuke_Idowolferine: KAudioCreator07:26
notvlevel15 do i have to uninstall the version of flash i am currently running first?07:26
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intelikeystdin the driver   i910   ?07:26
stdinfam: the intel driver is called "i810"07:26
Level15wolferine: did it work?07:26
Level15notv: yes07:26
Daisuke_Idowolferine: especially KAC with lame and/or flac07:26
wolferineLevel15, I thought you were sh1tting me07:26
Level15wolferine: dude, i am dead serious07:26
intelikeystdin ah only an i810    i thought there was a 910 also...    my bad07:26
stdin(well, the current driver is "i810", it will be replaced with "intel" )07:27
wolferineLevel15, waiting to view the tags07:27
Level15wolferine: it hasn't loaded them?07:27
notvlevel15 can you tell me the best way to do that?07:27
wolferinehow would I know?07:27
wolferineI am waiting....07:27
stdinintelikey: there is a module for i910 dri, but but that's autoloaded07:27
intelikeystdin don't know how to wake a computer over the lan do you ?07:27
stdinintelikey: erm kernel module rather07:27
wolferine30 mins remaining07:27
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stdinintelikey: I've never tried07:28
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Level15notv: how did u install it?07:28
famyes i see that07:28
wolferine35 mins for 50MBs, not too efficient07:28
intelikeyyeah i was thinking  kernel and typing xorg   like i said   'my bad'07:28
intelikeyi'm old enough to do that once in a while....07:28
Level15notv: never mind. just get rid of *flash* inside .mozilla/plugins, and using adept get rid of any flash player things you find07:29
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Level15then just fire up mozilla to a flash website, it will download and install07:29
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Level15wolferine: well, audio encoding has always been demanding... and time consuming07:29
notvi got it from the website07:29
wolferineLevel15, true07:29
wolferineso it this works, ill use it :)07:30
stdinintelikey: I did find "wakeonlan" in universe ?07:30
intelikeystdin me either until now.   i think its time i learn how.     the server is on a different floor from the office   so i may need to know how to  lan alarmclock the remote box.07:30
Level15notv: do what i just told you, it's easier this way07:30
wolferinetook me about 2 months to do it last time07:30
Daisuke_Idoagain, kaudioconvertor + lame and/or flac.  i don't know if konqueror uses cdparanoia, and i don't trust it if it doesn't.07:30
intelikeywhat ?   cool07:30
Level15wolferine: it sure does :)07:30
wolferinehopefully I can do it right this time07:30
stdinintelikey: heh "apt-cache search wakeonlan" :p07:30
intelikeyetherwake - A little tool to send magic Wake-on-LAN packets07:30
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intelikeylooks like both will work...     neetO07:31
stdinintelikey: apparently the difference is the wakeonlan uses udp packets and so doesn't need root privalages (no that that's a consideration to you :P)07:32
intelikeyi see you know me too well for that... :)07:33
Level15cya guys07:35
Level15going to sleep07:35
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ranjankubuntu-restricted-extras ? where is this in repos?07:41
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stdinranjan: in gutsy07:43
stdinranjan: not in feisty (yet?)07:43
ranjanstdin: yes i am using gutsy07:43
ranjanbut cannot find it using apt-cache search07:43
stdinthen you should be asking in #ubuntu+107:43
stdinand it is in multiverse07:44
wolferinehaving an issue with installing a package using aptitude, if I just want to skip the package, what do I need to run?07:44
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wolferineor well, remove it entirely07:45
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intelikeywho knows rsync ?    i want to copy files from host:dir/  to  dir/   but exclude symlinks and files that exist in dir/       anyone know the syntax/switches ?07:47
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ubot3If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:47
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wolferinesoulrider, thats not the same thing :)07:48
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soulrideruhm ?07:48
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wolferineanyways, I just used synaptic to remove the package07:49
stdinwolferine: soulrider joined after you asked the question, wasn't a reply to you07:49
wolferineoh :P07:50
wolferinesorry soulrider07:50
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soulriderlo, no prob07:51
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lione_hello there where can I get zaptel.ko?07:53
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Kubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs!https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please. | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
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wolferinelione_, setting up *?08:00
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whizadreeive got it to work in gnome at 75% , just hacked the xconf to pieces08:03
whizadreeand some windows dont go away08:03
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whizadreei bet kde is now super messed up though08:05
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dsmith_hi, whats the command for showing available space in a folder?08:05
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dsmith_is it something like this?  sensor=disk format="%ug / %tg GB"08:06
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stdinis that for superkaramba?08:07
ebaadHello, I need some to configure apache virtual hosts08:07
dsmith_I can see /root /sda1 but not /home08:08
ebaadI want to setup another virtual host besides the localhost site08:08
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ebaadi have looked at the examples on apache.org but I could not understand much08:08
dsmith_ebaad: Apache has great documentation08:09
stdindsmith_: you need to set the "mountpoint="/something" " for each mount08:09
ebaadyes u r right but I followed that but I could not get it right08:09
ebaadI always have difficulty in trying to configure this08:10
dsmith_ebaad: try #apache08:10
dsmith_stdin: let me paste what I have08:10
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dsmith_text   x=5 y=525  value="home"08:10
dsmith_text x=160 y=525  sensor=disk format="%ug / %tg GB"08:10
dsmith_mountpoint="/home/" align=right08:10
dsmith_text x=200 y=525  sensor=disk format="(%up%)" mountpoint="/home" align=right08:10
dsmith_4 lines08:11
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stdintry moving the mountpoint line to the same line as sensor ? (maybe)08:12
ebaadi did apache2, it says could not reliably determine server FQDN08:12
dsmith_stdin: ok08:12
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dsmith_hmmmm that may be it08:12
stdinebaad: you need to set the host to localhost, take a look at the LAMP guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP08:12
ebaadi have done this before, but evertime I try to get the virtual hosts configured i have problems08:13
ebaadi looked at the link, I think this looks more understanding to me, may be I just could not follow the format that apache.org has08:14
ebaadhopefully i wont bug you guys about this08:15
dsmith_superkaramba is buggy08:18
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ebaadhello, i was just here and asked for some help with apache virtual host setu08:34
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ebaadsomebody send me a link to ubuntu website, I could not book mark it and the pc turned off08:35
ebaadI would reallu appreciate if you can give me the apache configuration link again08:35
stdinebaad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP08:35
ebaadawesome thanks much08:36
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Tm_T!info dash08:43
ubotudash: The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is required. Version 0.5.3-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 82 kB, installed size 204 kB08:43
ubot3dash: The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is required. Version 0.5.3-3ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 91 kB, installed size 232 kB08:43
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stdinautojoin strikes again08:44
Tm_Tthat's not fair08:44
Tm_Tthat's not fair!08:45
stdinyou can always kickban :p08:45
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Tm_Thow did I do that08:46
stdinbecause you are magic?08:46
Tm_Twhat, when I did get alias for that08:47
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Tm_Tno, that's not possible, who's tweaking _my_ irssi?!08:47
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BAsh`I am trying to setup printers but i cant access the printers config screen: http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/309/snapshot1dw7.png08:54
BAsh`as you can see there arnt any printer icons there08:54
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stdinBAsh`: yes there is08:55
stdinBAsh`: oh, wait08:55
BAsh`i've configured it a bit - can you check on your version i want to see if it is just me08:56
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stdinBAsh`: you have kdeprint ?08:56
BAsh`okay i'm installing it now08:57
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stdinBAsh`: it should be installed automatically? how did you install kubuntu ?08:57
BAsh`like i said i've tweaked it ;)08:58
BAsh`okay its there now08:58
BAsh`thx for your help!08:58
stdinBAsh`: no problem :)08:59
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silveraceneed help ...cant fint admin in system09:00
silveraceSystem -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager09:00
silveraceEnable: Nvidia Drivers09:00
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stdinsilverace: that's gnome instructions, follow the edgy instructions09:00
silveracei see System  ,,terminal,,synaptic..no adm09:01
silveraceiam using kubuntu..soooooo use edgy?09:02
silverace:) tanks09:02
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silveracewell maybe someone can help...i just installed kubuntu recently...i have a geforc nvidia 7600gs..i see on nvidias site a driver for my card for linux09:04
silveracedo i use that?09:04
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stdinsilverace: NO, use the ubuntu packages09:05
silveraceso go to add programs an type nvidia09:06
stdinsilverace: with the ubuntu packages you just install them, with the nvidia download you have to switch to a terminal kill X compile and install the driver, then do that for every update09:07
silveraceive been on wondows for ..yikes 1992,,,,i just switch top linux 2 nights ago09:07
stdinsilverace: just use Adept to install it09:07
silveracewondows  ...errr  windows...wondows ...lol09:08
silveraceok thank you09:08
silveracebe right back hehe09:08
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arunhas anyone here tried the zend php framework?09:13
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hangthedji've got it installed but i don't think i use it ;/09:15
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arunhangthedj: ?09:17
hangthedji don't even really know what it is, i just compiled php with --enable-zend-blah-blah09:18
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silveraceglx del or legancy..iam using kububtu nvidia 760009:19
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stdinsilverace: try the nvidia-glx09:21
stdinsilverace: if, and only if, that doesn't work you use the glx-legacy onw09:21
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volnhi have winxp and kubuntu on my hard drive. But I can't see folders winxp...09:22
stdin!ntfs | voln09:23
ubotuvoln: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:23
NickPrestaGoodnight #kubuntu. Sleep well.09:23
silveraceso  not the dev? for nvidia09:24
stdinsilverace: just install what the guide says09:24
silveraceok,,thanks,,its only my second night with this..iam reading none stop,,09:25
silveracewell worth it though..my first impressions any how09:25
silveraceafter i need to set up 5.1 surround09:26
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silveracesetting up dvd play back was a hoot   ,,,rrrrrrrrrrrrrright lol09:26
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silveraceill still use xp for dvd copying viewing,,but its nice to have things working on this drive09:27
stdinsilverace: I don't use windows for *anything*09:27
stdinI don't need to09:28
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sheldoncgaming would be nice09:29
silveracelol heyyyyyy...i found a use for my mouses wheel  lol09:29
m_lets hear09:30
silveraceclick on task bar then moose mouse wheel09:30
silveracei have to use xp for games..i mean,,,i have the puter for it..and dvdv play back,,but thats it i think09:31
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m_hey so what about ur copy of XP09:32
silveracefinally,,another use for the mouse wheel lol09:32
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intelikeyhowto determine the MAC address of boxen ?09:32
m_do u think there I should get it on bittorrent, I f I was outside of the us ill do it in a click09:32
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m_I should get it and not update it09:33
m_I need to play the games09:33
silveraceoh,,kubuntu installed very nicely..i just added a slave drive and after install it recognixed xp os...dual boot no probs..nice09:33
intelikeyhowto determine the MAC address?09:33
stdinintelikey: I _think_ you can use arping for that09:34
m_u mean IP09:34
stdinm_: no, he doesn't09:34
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hangthedjifconfig |grep HWaddr?09:34
intelikeyiputils-arping - Tool to send ICMP echo requests to an ARP address09:35
intelikeyarping - sends IP and/or ARP pings (to the MAC address)09:35
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silveraceiam luvin this ..no more windows..breath the free air my freands  hewhe09:35
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intelikeystdin  from lshw     serial: 00:06:29:0d:47:d5     <<< that would be what i'm looking for wouldn't it ?09:38
intelikeyerrr did i just broadcast that ????      damn09:39
stdinintelikey: yeah, that looks right, ifconfig will show it too09:39
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Tabmowsanyone use kubuntu to vpn to a windows server vpn?09:47
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SniZhi, i try set up keyboard switch in  my KDE, but layouts only change via CTRL+ALT+K09:58
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SniZi wanna to change layout via CTRL+SHIFT....09:59
SniZ       Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg"10:00
SniZ        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"10:00
SniZ        Option          "XkbLayout"     "us,ru"10:00
SniZ        Option          "XkbVariant"    ",winkeys"10:00
SniZ        Option          "XkbOptions"    "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"10:00
SniZwhan i do wrong?10:00
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ebaadHi Stdin, I tried the apache howto you sent me the link for, but I want to configure like htt://localhostsite1 and http://localhost/site for now and it does not explain that10:03
Assidi have adept telling me theres an update for compiz-fusion .. but everytime i update it ,.... nothing happens.. adept says i still need to update10:03
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pagAssid, try  sudo apt-get upgrade  from the konsole10:03
stdinebaad: I don't run apache anymore, try googleing for "Apache virtual hosts"10:04
Assidpag: i did.. same thing10:04
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Assiddoesnt go away10:04
pagAssid, no error messages from apt?10:04
ebaadoh ok then what running is it better..........10:04
Assidand ever since i upgrade the rest of the compiz packages.. now compiz doesnt work for me10:04
Assidpag: no error10:04
stdinAssid: sudo apt-get upgrade ?10:05
stdin!CAPS | SniZ10:05
ubotuSniZ: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.10:05
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Assidstdin: still no10:05
stdinAssid: what happens ?10:05
Assidstdin: it installs the new package (unpacking replacement) setting up.. and back to prompt10:05
Assidlike normal10:06
pagAssid, it sounds like you have conflicting upgrades... like v2.1universe and v.2.1otherrepo  and apt doesn't know which to choose10:06
pagAssid, try disabling compiz repos if you have any, and try again10:07
Assidim using  deb http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse10:07
Assidimim using i think thats the one10:07
Assidproblem is i dont know which is the repo for compiz :(10:07
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Assidyeah thats the one10:07
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SniZwhat better, beryl or compiz?10:10
AssidSniZ: they are merged10:11
SniZand what i must install, in reps i have beryl and comlix10:11
stdinit's not in the official repos yet10:11
Assidstdin: security upgrades on compiz killed my box:(10:12
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arunstdin: does gutsy use kde 4?10:14
stdinarun: no10:14
arunstdin: what does it use for desktop effects10:15
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Assidarun: compiz-fusion10:15
Assidstdin: gutsy stable enough yet?10:15
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stdinarun: nothing by default (that may change), but compiz-fusion in ubuntu10:15
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stdinAssid: for normal users, no10:16
stdinit's being stubborn right now :p10:16
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SitheHAI KUBUNTU!10:16
Assidalrite lemme see if compiz starts now10:16
Assidif i die.. send me a postcard10:17
sauvinSithe would like to know how to get an ATI Radeon 800mumble working under ubuntu.10:17
Sithesauvin: yes!10:17
stdininstall the fglrx driver probably10:18
SitheAlready did that10:18
Sithedid it like 5 times too10:18
stdinfrom where?10:18
stdinin what way is it not working?10:19
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Sithethe kernel is missing from xorg.0.log or w/e that file is10:19
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trekdannemaybe a little OT but I was thinking about doing a back-up of some random files, using some online one-click file hosting, which should I use?10:20
stdinSithe: you have the linux-restricted-modules package installed?10:20
melomaneexcuse me, how can i erase a rewritable dvd by K3B? there are just "earse rewritable cd and format dvd" in menus10:21
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Sithestdin: I dont think so10:21
pagmelomane, what's wrong with 'format dvd' option?10:21
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melomanepag: it doesnt do anything to my dvd10:21
stdinSithe: you need it, it'll be called linux-restricted-modules-generic or something like that10:21
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melomanepag: i tried that, but all information on dvd were still on my DVD disk10:22
Sithein symnaptic?10:22
stdinmelomane: K3B will erase it when it begins to write to it10:22
stdinSithe: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?10:22
melomanestdin: after i formated it?10:22
Bauldrickhow do i get my camcorder to work in kino?10:22
Sithestdin: Ubuntu Fiesty10:22
Sithestdin: I was told to come to #kubuntu10:23
stdinSithe: why? by who? if you are using ubuntu, you should ask in #ubuntu10:23
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Sithestdin: By sauvin10:23
pagmelomane, there is 'force' -option in format dvd - but stdin's right; k3b will format dvd while writing to it10:24
sauvinI was thinking the folks in here would have a better idea how to get X running under ubuntu.10:24
melomanepag: aha yea i saw that option (force)but i didnt know  its use10:24
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melomanepag , stdin : thanks10:25
Assidstdin: didnt work.. compiz still broken10:25
stdinSithe: there should be a restricted drivers manager in Ubuntu10:25
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Sithestdin: It says I have no restricted drivers10:25
melomaneanother question: does kubuntu automatically mount the windows ntfs drives or i have to moun t them?10:25
sauvinThere were other things I had to do involving adding some sections to xorg.conf and suchlike, and running aticonfig, but I don't remember where I found those instructions :(10:26
Assidmelomane:  you can have it automount if its in the /etc/fstab10:26
pagSithe, ati800 should work pretty well with open drivers iirc10:26
Sithepag: I have no idea what that is lol10:26
stdinSithe: close synaptic if it's open and open a terminal, then run "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager" then go to "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver"10:26
stdinsauvin: ubuntu users should be in #ubuntu, not #kubuntu10:26
Sithestdin: enable or disable?10:27
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SitheIt was already enabled10:27
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stdinthen it should be installed10:28
melomaneAssid: do u have a link to a guide about it. ? i am new to kubunu10:28
pag!fstab | melomane10:28
ubotumelomane: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions10:28
Assidmelomane:  a simple google on /etc/fstab nfs   should reveal it10:28
stdinSithe: if it doesn't work then the driver doesn't support the card10:28
Assidor you can check the above10:28
melomaneAssid ubotu pag : thanks a million10:29
Sithestdin: Alright. If that doesn't work ill just install the ATI driver10:29
stdinSithe: no, that IS the ATI driver10:29
Sithestdin: ORLY10:29
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stdinSithe: if it doesn't work you're stuck10:29
Sithestdin: I meant the one from the ATI website10:30
stdinSithe: yes, it's the same one10:30
Sithestdin: Nope. I used that one earlier and it worked..10:30
Sithestdin: but I changed to fglrdx and it didn;t work10:30
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stdinSithe: erm, well it IS the same driver whether you believe it or not.10:32
Sithestdin: Hrm. I have been told by many people in #ubuntu and #cedega that its not.10:32
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stdinSithe: then that lie10:32
Sithestdin: orly10:32
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stdinSithe: the xorg-driver-fglrx driver is the ATI binary proprietary driver10:33
Bauldrickanyone know what to do to get camcorder working in kino - I get raw1394 kernel not loaded (but lsmod shows it is?)10:34
Bauldrickor something other than kino10:34
stdinSithe: if you installed the one from ATIs site and didn't remove it properly then that's probably why the packaged version isn't working10:34
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Sithestdin: I think thats the problem10:34
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Assidstdin: you think someones gonna update those repositories?10:35
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Sithestdin: Someone said ATI drivers permanantly fuck up linux.. And that you have to re-install10:35
dromerdoes anyone care to help my with my dhcp-problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50686810:35
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stdinSithe: you'll have to uninstall the ATI.com driver and the linux-restricted-modules packages, then reinstall the linux-restricted-modules packages again10:36
Sithestdin: Can you give me a walkthrough on how to do that10:37
Sithestdin: Please10:37
stdinAssid: they would only be updated for a security fix once a version of ubuntu is released10:37
stdinSithe: I can't I don't use any ATI hardware so have never installed the driver, so I don't know how to uninstall it10:37
Sithestdin: Orly10:38
stdintry asking in #ubuntu10:38
stdinmore people = more eyes10:39
Sithestdin: I am lol10:39
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mumificiranihey guys10:41
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mumificiraniis there anyway to change the whole kubuntu to default settings10:41
stdinmove your ~/.kde dir to kde.backup, then all the settings will be reset10:42
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mumificiraniand how do I do that :|?10:43
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pagmumificirani, mv .kde .kde-backup   maybe?10:43
mumificiraniok ok :)10:43
stdinfrom konsole "mv .kde kde.backup", from konqueror: View > show hidden10:43
mumificiraniwill all the packages  be deleted?10:44
stdinjust your users settings10:45
stdinwell, they'll all be backedup, not deleted10:45
mumificiraniI did the command10:45
mumificiraninow ctrl - shift - bksp?10:45
stdinno, logout and back in, and you should have default10:45
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ubuntu__hello... i was using ubuntu, and my pc halted... i tryed to reboot but it appears an error: the filesystem can be only accessed on read-only and acuses bad blocks... how i fix it? (i`m using live cd)10:52
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stdinubuntu__: what partition is the root on?10:54
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ubuntu__stdin /dev/hdc110:54
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stdinubuntu__: sudo fsck -c /dev/hdc110:55
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ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:56
ubuntu__stdin i need umount the device..10:56
ubuntu__i`m going to reboot pc, brb10:56
stdinubuntu__: you don't need to reboot10:56
stdinubuntu__: sudo umount /dev/hdc110:57
ubuntu__thank you... fsck running.10:57
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ubuntu__error on 5013505 (attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while reading inode and blocks bitmaps10:58
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stdinwhat are the options10:59
ubuntu__it`s the same error appears when i boot pc10:59
stdinwhat are the options it gives you? you said "ignore" was one11:00
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ubuntu__ignore <y>11:00
ubuntu__i did press n, but the fsck stopped11:00
stdinok, just keep pressing y then11:00
ubuntu__force rewrite? y11:00
ubuntu__checking =(11:01
ubuntu__i guess my hd is really bad11:01
Assidstdin: thats not the official repositories11:01
ubuntu__but i was using fine 10 min ago11:01
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stdinAssid: ?11:02
Assidstdin: regarding the repositories.. compiz11:03
waylandbill_is compiz even stable yet?11:04
stdinAssid: like I said, they are in the gutsy repos, so I use the official repos (as I run gutsy)11:04
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naxahi can you help me?11:06
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:06
naxaEasy question, how much space will I need for a kubuntu?11:06
naxaI have 40gb, but I want two distributions and a 3rd partition for the other data like music, etc.11:07
pagnaxa, 7GB will be enough for /11:07
stdindepends on what you install, the minimum is 2GB but 10 should be fine11:07
naxaI like experiments so i'm afraid 10 gb for each distro won't be enough, what do you think?11:07
waylandbill_naxa: you need 4 or so just to install, but I'd go with 1011:07
naxaSo 10 is enough for doing experiments with all the programs like KDE4 and so.11:07
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naxaNumerous others...11:08
naxaOK then I'll use 10, thank you. :)11:08
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waylandbill_it's been a while since I've seen a 40gb hdd. usually it's 80 or bigger. My laptop even has 60. :-)11:09
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stdinmy laptop has 80, but I specifically looked for one with at least that11:10
naxaIt's actually a 120gb11:10
naxaBut only 40 is free.11:10
naxaOthers already contain important data.11:10
naxaActually I wanna buy a 250.11:11
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stdinyou have 80GB of "important" data :p11:11
naxaBut my long-term desire is up to 5 tb.11:11
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naxaActually I have let's say 80+30+120 yeah 230 gb of important data,11:11
naxaand I'm out of space.11:11
cloakablenaxa: 5tb will fill up too :P11:11
Sergiu1The following packages have unmet dependencies: kio-sysinfo: Depends: libhd13 but it is not installable11:12
Sergiu1how to resolve dependencies?11:12
naxaYeah I know. I need 4 tb for a server mirroring.11:12
waylandbill_I can't figure out stuff to fill an 80 let alone have 80 gb of important data. lol11:12
naxaThe other for personal purposes.11:12
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naxaWell the mirror is also for personal purposes but never mind.11:12
naxaWell let's say it's not only mine, but friend's data, family's data, etc.11:12
arunare there any good font viewing apps for kubuntu?11:12
naxaAll I need is 5 tb storage and high bandwitch... :)11:13
pagSergiu1, it's in feisty's Universe (dunno about previous releases)11:13
naxaNo no no just joking.11:13
stdinSergiu1: how are you installing that? dpkg ?11:13
pag!info libhd1311:13
ubotulibhd13: Hardware identification system library. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.11-3 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1544 kB11:13
Sergiu1stdin: with kubuntu package manager11:13
Sergiu1kubunt package menu11:14
waylandbill_you mean kpackage?11:14
Sergiu1don't know11:15
stdin!info kio-sysinfo11:15
ubotuPackage kio-sysinfo does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas11:15
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stdinSergiu1: kio-sysinfo is not in the repositories, so where did you get it from?11:15
Sergiu1stdin: www.apps-kde.org11:16
naxaoh no11:16
naxaubiquity closed unexpectedly11:16
naxawhat the hack11:16
naxawith such a slow partitioning method11:16
stdinSergiu1: open konsole and type "sudo apt-get -f install"11:17
naxaoh no...11:17
Sergiu1Evil_DuDe: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:18
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Sergiu1probaly adept is working11:18
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stdinSergiu1: close the application you have installing kio-sysinfo11:18
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antihello, where stores fail2ban banned ips?11:19
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Sergiu1stdin: closed already11:20
Sergiu1need to look in ps aux11:20
pagarun, the one that is in kcontrol?11:20
arunpag: isn't there an external font viewing application?11:21
stdinkonqueror has a built in font viewer...11:21
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pagarun, I don't know - I've been really happy with the one I mentioned11:21
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arunpag: I like it too, but I don't like going to kcontrol>appearance>fonts everytime11:22
Sergiu1stdin: don't understand, (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:22
Sergiu1i closed all pps11:22
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stdinSergiu1: try "sudo fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock"11:22
pagarun, fonts:/ kioslave works too... (with KFontView)11:23
Bauldrickmy cusor disappears if I switch user?11:23
Sergiu1/var/lib/dpkg/lock:  1043811:23
Sergiu1to shut down this pid ?11:23
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Sergiu1root     10438 10.0  8.9  59348 22148 ?        Sl   12:28   0:02 aptitude11:24
saylarhey guys11:24
stdinSergiu1: then do "sudo dpkg --configure -a"11:24
arunpag: kioslave?11:24
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pagarun, just type fonts:/  to konq's addressbar11:24
Sergiu1stdin: thanks, sudo aptitude install -f resolve dependencies..11:25
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Sergiu1need to write down this cmds :)11:25
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arunpag: i did, but now i just see the fonts11:26
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aruni want to see them using the kcontrol interface11:26
arunlist of fonts on the left11:26
arunand preview on the right11:26
stdinSergiu1: you won't need them for long, in gutsy we'll use gdebi to install debs, that resolves dependencies for you11:26
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Sergiu1good news11:27
pagarun, ok.. dunno then, sry.11:28
Bauldrickhow do i stop the curor disappearing if I switch user?11:28
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arunpag: alright.. thanks a lot! do you know if there's any way i can view that app outside of kcontrol?11:28
pagarun, kcmshell kcmfontinst11:29
arunwhere do i enter that11:30
pagarun, ie. alt+f211:30
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Assiderr how do i force cached dns to expire?11:36
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Assidim not running my own bind11:36
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radanterHi, can anyone point me to a list of Kubuntu releases showing the kernel version for each release?11:39
stdinradanter: look on packages.ubuntu.com11:40
radanterstdin: ok, thanks11:41
Assidstdin: know how to flush dns?11:41
stdinradanter: http://packages.ubuntu.com/linux-image-386 < should help11:41
pagAssid, just a guess: restart your networking interface?11:42
stdinAssid: I don't know, never needed to11:42
Assidpag: didnt work11:42
Assidi gotta install nscd to restart nscd?11:43
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse11:43
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radanterstdin: hmm, thanks, but it only goes back as far as dapper. I was wondering if any versions used the 2.4 kernel11:43
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stdinradanter: no :P ubuntu only started in 200511:45
stdinradanter: erm, 200411:45
khaije1when i fsck my usbstick it says "Both FATs appear to be corrupt. Giving Up."11:45
khaije1how can i fix this?11:45
Assidthe rain dance11:45
radanterstdin: ok, thanks again11:45
Assidokay lack of sleep makes me wanna do crazy things11:46
radanterstdin: any idea when the next LTS version will be released?11:46
Assidone of my boxes is dying11:46
stdinradanter: yeah, 8.04 (gutsy+1)11:46
khaije1rain dance?11:46
radanterstdin: cool, will it have a nice upgrade from 6.06? The current versions don't seem to.11:47
naxahey all... I hate swap. I've got 1 gb memory. but i hate swap it eats my disk space for no use.11:47
stdinradanter: that's yet to be figured out :p11:47
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stdinradanter: it should do thou11:47
naxahow much swap should i add?11:47
naxamin is 250 and i thought about 700 but11:47
naxamaybe 250 is far too much anyway...11:48
naxagive me a hint...11:48
radanterstdin: great, thanks!!11:48
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stdinnaxa: standard should be about 1GB, it's recommended to go 1-1.5xRAM11:48
stdinand, tbh 1GB isn't _that_ much11:49
naxaI know, but why11:49
naxai know this rule11:49
naxabut why11:49
naxai cannot understand11:49
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stdinit depends what exactly you are going to be doing with the system11:50
naxaIf I'd got 250 mb of ram now you would say 300 mb is ok11:50
naxai see11:50
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naxaso what is swap for11:50
naxawhat it is good for?11:50
khaije1naxa: it has to do with maximum efficience in addressing the swap memory11:50
naxai actually don't care about 3 secs11:50
stdinnaxa: when you run out of RAM it uses swap11:50
khaije1since addressing swap uses ram11:50
naxaBut it is nonsense11:50
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naxahow possibly would i ran out of 1 gb of ram,11:50
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naxawhen my previous computer has 192 mb and 250 mb swap?11:51
naxaand it worked11:51
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stdinnaxa: windows has the same, except it uses a file11:51
naxai know11:51
naxai turned it off11:51
naxai hate it11:51
lockdLinux can too, and it's easier to resize as a file11:51
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khaije1stdin: linux can use a file to actually, the partition is just better11:51
stdinnaxa: hey, if you don't want it don't use it11:51
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naxaall problem i got that photoshop 7 asks me why I don't have swap on11:51
stdinkhaije1: yes, I know11:51
khaije1stdin: i figured :] 11:52
naxaok then... what about this:11:52
lockdkhaije1: if you are swapping with say 2gigs of ram, you are already in bad shape11:52
naxai choose 300 mb of swap.11:52
naxafor 1 gb memory.11:52
naxaand if anything goes wrong,11:52
lockdyou will not be able to suspend to disk11:52
naxai configure swap to be in a file.11:52
naxahow does it sounds?11:52
khaije1lockd: it totally depends on usage factors11:52
stdinI have 1.2 GB swap, because I have 1GB RAM and use hibernate11:52
khaije1for a server 2g maybe not be much at all11:52
naxai see.11:52
naxaso it's for hibernate. :)11:52
stdinfor me, yes11:53
naxayeah. but it's a dekstop computer11:53
naxai see, thank you for info .:)11:53
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khaije1naxa: it doubles as hibernate, thats not it's primary use11:53
stdinif you edit photos or video, you may find you do NEED more swap11:53
stdinit takes a LOT of memory, sometimes more than 1GB11:53
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naxacan you tell if a small swap will result in very significant speed decrasing? for example 15 sec instead of 1 sec11:54
naxayeah it's true11:54
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naxaok then please convince me. i've got a dekstop computer. why should i possibly use swap. i'm interested in numbers ("100 sec instead of 10"), and things like "it simply won't work that way". i know you can't say exactly numbers so let's say "about 3x times slower" or so.11:55
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khaije1naxa: lockd: it can increase performance, but imho it's most useful because it adds robustness11:56
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naxaok so i can use it for hibernate, video editing...11:58
naxagreater server perfomance11:59
naxai still don't understand, except hibernate, why should it be so big? I mean a comp with 500 mb ram and 1 gb swap will be faster than a comp with 1 gb ram but 500 mb swap?12:00
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naxaall else is the same12:00
naxai know guys you're tired about this but please answer this last question :)12:00
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naxahm what happens12:01
yrgmore ram is better than more swap12:01
naxaoh. so 500 mb of swap is enough for me.12:02
naxawill anything completely disfunction except hibernate becouse of too small swap?12:02
naxaYeah i know this is last one + 1 question...12:02
naxabut anyway i've got my answer so thank you12:02
yrgI think everything would work...12:02
yrgEven hibernate12:02
naxaso if it is actually faster anyway, and everything will work,12:03
yrgMy laptop has 1.5GB RAM and 1 GB swap and hibernates fins12:03
naxai don't need swap just to get _more_ faster comp.12:03
naxai see12:03
naxathank you very much12:03
stdinyou know there is a ##linux for general questions too12:03
naxaoh... sorry about this :D12:03
naxathank you12:03
stdinmore people in there12:03
naxasorry about that and thank you12:03
stdinprobably know more than me :P12:03
stdin(only probably) :)12:04
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khaije1naxa: sorry, i had my head in a different window, do you have the info you were looking for?12:05
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naxawell i've heard that 1 gb ram + 500 swap is better than 500 ram and 1 gb swap. if it actually faster, and only _not that much_ faster, and everything will actually work, then i'll use less swap. Am i right?12:06
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yeniklasorHow can I install to openoffice another language support? I downloaded "OOo_2.2.1_LinuxIntel_langpack_generic_tr.tar.gz" Now how can I install it?12:08
khaije1naxa: swap is a good thing and a central feature to modern operating systems, it makes your system more stable under load and also increases performance (though not dramaticly)12:08
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khaije1so you want to use it, the only question is how much is actually useful12:09
stdinv0taguz: there are openoffice.org-l10n-* packages12:09
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khaije1for a desktop system, I would look at how much disk space is available and at how fast the disk access is, and go based on that12:09
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naxai thought i will use 590 swap. i've got 1 gb ram.12:10
khaije1but generally you will be just fine with 500mb, you won't be punished by your computer for using too much or too little, so if you want to be conservative i'd say start small and leave room to grow if you like12:10
khaije1( i should say 500mb or more )12:11
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naxaok so 590 is ok12:11
chxhi. where are KDE session data stored? It always restarts my session and i would like to change the switches of one app12:11
naxasorry for actually ruining the room :)12:11
khaije1naxa: sure, no worries :-)12:11
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naxaI've got another question. is there any way to get rid of /media?12:11
khaije1naxa: its the questions that everybody takes for granted that are the hardest to get answers too sometimes :-)12:12
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khaije1naxa: it's possible, though i can't think of any situation where it would be a goog idea12:12
yrgI remember some years ago, there wasn't a /media12:12
stdinwhy would you want/need to?12:13
naxawell i just don't like that when i type /m and hit tab, nothing happens12:13
yrgeverything had to be mounted/unmountes manually and was in /mnt12:13
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yrgtype /me<tab>12:13
naxait's too muchj12:13
naxaeither mnt or media, i wanna get rid of.12:13
stdinFSH says that /mnt is for static or network mounts and /media is for removable devices12:13
naxathe problem is that I cannot be fast enough if i want to reconfigure my habits12:14
naxait takes a lot of time12:14
yrgThat's why I removed Konquest. Cause I wanna start Konqueror by entering konq12:14
naxathe problem is not that it's a char longer, it's that i have to think on it12:14
khaije1naxa: these are things that you want to leave it place, because there are a lot of things that rely on them, it will save you *alot* of time and headache to leave them there12:14
yrgnaxa: You'll get used to that...12:14
naxaok so it's faster to reconfigure habits. I understood. thank you. :)12:14
stdinnaxa: you can (I guess) get rid of /mnt, as it's not used automatically, a lot of things use /media automatically12:15
naxaok. that's great. so... no more stupid questions of mine. :)12:15
naxathank you for all the kindness and patience and information!12:15
naxaNow I go and konquer my installation...12:15
khaije1naxa: if you ask nicely the people in #bash may show you how to remove those folders from the tab-completion12:15
stdinKubuntu = Towards Humanity12:16
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naxahuh great thank you :)12:16
khaije1that is a better way to handle it than deleting system files/folders, there are ways to accomplish whatever you like, but some are better than others12:16
khaije1good luck, and let us know if you have other questions12:17
naxaactually i have one but it's not unix conserned... at least not that much.12:17
naxait's irc.12:17
chxTo answer my own question, ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc stores the comamnd and arguments are comma separated.12:17
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naxayou write to me like this: "naxa: blabla" and i got a warning that you wrote for me.12:18
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naxahow can you do this? Just start the sentence with my name?12:18
DaxanaHi..All, I am new bie using kubuntu12:18
naxaor it's a command?12:18
stdinnaxa: the client does that, not us :)12:18
yrgYour IRC client detects your name12:18
naxaso if i write...12:18
stdinit happens when ever anyone says your nickneme naxa12:19
DaxanaHow to install software from cdrom ? I open file..and don't know what's to do12:19
khaije1naxa: yup, it's a way of alerting an individual in the midst of many conversations, it's a feature of your irc client, and it is used to help communications12:19
naxaso it's automatic and nothing to do with anything except my client12:19
yrgnaxa: yep12:19
naxagreat thank you. big myth unfolded12:19
yrgyou can switch it on and off in the option and even set it to react to other words...12:19
khaije1yr client it listening for it, this is normal, most of ours are set that way too12:19
naxai think someone else wanted to ask something12:19
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stdinkhaije1: depends on the software12:19
naxaDaxana i mean12:20
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yrgDaxana: What software?12:20
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khaije1pre-empitve qualifier: "most"12:20
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stdinDaxana: ampache? you mean apache?12:21
yrgWhy don't you install it through Adept?12:21
Daxanastdin: I got a cd, ampache.12:21
stdinwhat's ampache?12:22
naxaanother Q. I want grub to be on my sda, not hd0 or any MBR. I want it on the begining of my partition. how can I achieve this?12:22
naxai mean for example sda812:22
naxadefault is (hd0) for this12:22
naxai don't know grub i don't know what to write here12:23
naxaand if it's possible actually12:23
stdinsda8 would be (hd0,7)12:23
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naxawell actually I've got a hda, too12:23
khaije1i don't understand the question.... :-/12:23
naxai don't know if sda is hd0 or not12:23
naxahow can i check?12:23
DaxanaIsdin; It is like multimedia thing12:24
yrgI found "ampache a web based audio streaming application" Is it that you wanna install?12:24
naxawhat is more i've got a hdd which is not in this time 'couse it's got errors12:24
naxabut it don't plays now12:24
naxadoesnt :)12:24
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yrgDaxana: Is that file you want to install a .tar.gz?12:25
stdinnaxa: it'll say in /boot/grub/device.map12:25
Daxanayrg: yes. something like that. Actually the point is I learn install something from cd,12:25
naxastdin: well.. i don't know this on the live cd...12:25
yrgDaxana: .tar.gz is much like .zip files. You have to unpack them first and then install the contents12:25
Daxanayrg: yes correct ext is tar.gz.12:25
naxastdin: livecd doesn't have grub..12:26
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yrgSo, erm... go to your Konsole, and type "tar -xzvf /media/wherever/your-file/is"12:26
naxastdin: or at least it doesn't have /boot/grub. i cannot check...12:26
Daxanayrg: which's root the best to encrypt it?12:26
stdinnaxa: you should be able yo put in the device name /dev/whatever1... too12:26
naxaoh i see12:27
naxastdin: thanks12:27
naxaI hope it will work12:27
stdinDaxana: a tar.gz is an archive, you need to extract it to somewhere12:27
naxawow... it says it's failed to make an ext3 on /dev/sda6. how is this possible12:28
Daxanastdin : It does not have to  extract to specify root ?,12:29
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stdinDaxana: have a look what's in there first, it may have an installer (normally does)12:30
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naxai cannot understand12:31
naxait doesn't work12:31
naxahow is this possibly possible12:32
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naxauh-uh... it's no good...12:32
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yrgwt* was that?12:33
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naxait's no good.12:35
naxai made a partition table. it won't work12:36
naxai'm very tired...12:36
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naxahow is it possible that changes are allowed but won't work...12:36
naxai'll try next time12:36
naxathanks for your time bests bye12:37
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naxahelp me.12:40
naxait's getting worse :D12:41
naxaactually I've just formatted my ntfs as ext312:41
naxaUM... I wanna undo this...12:41
naxais that impossible..12:41
naxantfs has a copy of boot sektor on the middle12:41
naxai mean.. i don't know ext312:42
naxai don't know how it works12:42
naxai don't know if there is a chance of restoring something or there isn'T12:43
naxafor example if it rewrites the whole disk than i guess there is no chance12:43
naxabut if it rewrites the beginning, maybe there is...12:43
naxathis partition table sucks anyway12:43
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naxaok... everything collapsed...12:46
naxai'm tired of this, and leave... bye12:46
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spaxkann mir jemand helfen?12:54
spaxhab schwierigkeiten meinen hp einzurichten12:54
spaxhp scanjet 407012:54
stdin!de | spax12:54
ubotuspax: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:54
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milesis everyone idle?01:04
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harmentalany xemacs-users in here?01:05
harmentalcould you be kind enough to share screenshots of xemacs...01:05
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mileskate > xemacs01:07
milesthats what jon wilson always says, "cool?"01:08
miles"i love bill gates, cool?" - jon "i love bill gates" wilson01:08
milesyou know what i mean harmental?01:08
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harmentalkate is not quite good for using R (+ESS)01:11
mileswhat is this R(+ESS)?01:11
milesyou mean RSS?01:11
harmentalmiles: i have found no replacement for that so far....it is incredibily powerful...01:11
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harmentalmiles: no..i mean ESS01:11
mileswhat is this ESS?01:11
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
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harmentalmiles: http://ess.r-project.org/01:12
milesharmental, thanks01:12
harmentalthat's called reproductible research approach....01:12
harmentali use R ..but i am sure i can be donde with other languages...01:13
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milesah interesting, my mom would like ESS, she programs in SAS01:13
milesto bad she doesnt know what linux is01:13
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harmentalSAS = S?01:13
milesSAS = statistical analysis someting or another01:13
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harmentalmiles: that is not an issue....it works great under windoze to......01:13
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milesill tell her to check it out01:14
harmentalxemacs + ess + R01:14
milessomething about running gnu software on windows just doesnt seem right to me though01:14
harmentalthere is plenty of tutorials out there....01:14
harmentalmiles: well ....i you are a purist i guess not....01:14
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milesso are you mad at me that i dont like to run gnu software on windows?01:15
harmentalfor me is a matter of practical solutions....01:15
harmentalmiles: of course not!01:15
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twosouls82when I run konsole from kde4 beta 1, like suggested on the news page (either with the exports or in Xephyr), I get this error:01:18
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twosouls82ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server01:18
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twosouls82I tried launching dbus manually; no luck01:18
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stdintwosouls82: does it still work?01:19
twosouls82stdin: nope, a total crash follows01:19
milesi think this is why kde4 is still beta01:19
stdintwosouls82: report that in #kubuntu-devel01:19
twosouls82stdin: thanks01:20
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milesare you guys going to get mad if i ask a cpu related question?!01:21
milescause im dying to know the answer01:21
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mileswhen you compile the kernel, you can specify what processor family you belong to01:23
milesdoes anyone know what family the core 2 duo belongs to?01:23
milesive heard p4, ive heard pentium m01:24
stdinmiles: probably pentium 401:25
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aguitelhello ,where are Printers in the main menu?01:26
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zipperaguitel, it's not. "System Settings" is in the main menu though, and from there you can find "printers"01:34
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harmentalhey guys..how can i improve xemacs bitmapping....01:39
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harmentalfonts and menus are "uglyly" displayed....01:40
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harmentalwhen i launch xemacs i get this message: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion01:42
harmentalany ideas?01:43
runleveltenharmental: I'd ask in #xemacs.01:43
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harmentalrunlevelten: not such an active channel.. :o(01:44
runlevelten#emacs generally is, I know *some* people use it in there01:46
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runleveltenI dislike it, tbh, I think it looks repulsive :)01:46
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runleveltenI love my emacs though -nw/nox ftw01:46
runleveltenI occasionally run it in gnome-terminal when I want truetype fonts in it.01:47
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twosouls82hi _da01:59
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gonssalwhy do cups keep asking for authentication even if i'm root?02:02
gonssaland even if i try to authenticate as an user that is member of the lpadmin group02:02
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_datwosouls82 hey, I went to another channel, sorry...02:04
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twosouls82_da: np :) I am all over the windows/tabs myself too02:06
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_dafantastic  nick...02:06
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_datwosouls82, what does it mean?02:07
twosouls82_da: you mean me.. then you're the first =)02:07
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twosouls82_da: what do you think it means?02:08
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_daman and wife, boy and girl...02:08
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twosouls82_da: hehehe nice too..02:09
_daor twins02:09
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aguitelanyone installed printer Lexmark x 1185 ?02:09
sam__hey what is error code INOMEM?02:09
twosouls82_da: two souls = metaphor for schizofrene (latin for splitten personality) not that I have one02:09
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_dasam__,are you also sambozo?02:10
zipperHow do one specify the server port in xchat?02:11
_datwosouls82, ok, but the 82?02:12
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:12
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twosouls82_da: my build02:12
twosouls82Tm_T: you're right02:12
Tm_Tfeel free to join #kubuntu-offtopic02:13
Tm_Tzipper: does xchat manual help?02:15
zipperTm_T, found it, thanks02:15
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kuajoalguien me ayuda?02:57
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:01
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ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:03
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pekujahow about LARP with Ruby and Postgres? :-P03:04
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milespekuja: larp = live action role player03:04
milesaka those people that dress up and act like they are in an RPG video game03:05
milesbut i like it03:05
pekujaermn, yes, that's the joke03:05
mileso! touchette03:05
milesit made me chuckle03:05
milesi didnt see that emoticon03:05
milesdo you guys like flex?03:06
pekujahrmn, "act like they are in an RPG video game" is a bit inaccurate, no?03:06
runleveltenvery inaccurate.03:06
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milesi dont kno any personally03:09
milesits the only way i can describe it though03:09
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mileswhat is the typical default run level for ubuntu?03:10
milesis it 5?03:10
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ksivajisivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a03:12
pekujamiles, I think the most important inaccuracy with your definition is that LARPing doesn't derive from *video* games, but from pen-and-paper role playing games03:12
ksivajidpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of automake1.4:03:12
ksivaji automake1.4 depends on autoconf; however:03:12
ksivaji  Package autoconf is not installed.03:12
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milespekuja, true03:13
mileshow do you find out your runlevel?03:13
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milesrunlevelten, do you kno?03:13
thehcdreamerHello, can I open a task manager o similar with ubuntu?03:14
geniimiles: In ubuntu if the runlevel is not 0,1 or 6 it doesn't matter, 2 to 5 are the same03:14
m477hello how format memory disk form mobile fon ?03:14
ksivajigenii help me dpkg error03:14
m477hello how format memory disk form mobile phone ?03:15
milesyea, but lets say i wanted to run a script at start up, would i put it in the correct /etc/rc_.d or would i put it in /etc/init.d?03:15
pekujawhat's a "memory disk form"?03:15
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m477pekuja: microSD flesh ~~03:16
geniiksivaji: If you are using the same kubuntu/ubuntu as before when apache2 was giving dpkg errors, it's not worth trying to debug it. You needed a reinstall.03:16
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W8TAHhi folks:  is there a way to get the icons in the area at the right end of the toolbar (the equivalent of the systray) to take up less space? like make a double row or something?03:17
ksivajigenii ho that is not easy03:17
geniimiles unless it needs to execute in a specific order relative to other scripts like pre network or so, init.d usually is fine03:17
Df_YzPlease,tell me how i can see list of the channels (in this server)03:18
m477pekuja: so do you know03:18
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geniiDf_Yz: If Konversation use F5 key03:19
pekujam477, no I'm not really sure... I would think that you could use mkdosfs or something03:19
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pekujaI would guess that there's an easy GUI tool to do that too though03:20
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m477anyone can tell me how format flash disk ?03:23
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anandanbui have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in ubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png03:26
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Frack-Hesse!upgrade > Frack-Hesse03:30
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anandanbui have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in kubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png03:30
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Frack-Hessethis "tutorial" says, i should use the "update manager" which i think is a gnome application. is there a kde equivalent?03:31
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jlucyo tous03:34
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trekdanneFrack-Hesse: adept_update03:35
Frack-Hessesrsly? :03:35
Frack-Hessei'll try03:35
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Frack-Hessenope ._.03:36
Assidstdin: ytou there?03:36
Frack-Hessedo i have to install it first? :x03:36
Frack-Hessetrekdanne: what do u mean? ._.03:37
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trekdannetry pressing alt-f2 and type "adept_updater"03:38
trekdanneforgot the "r"03:38
m477anyone can tell me how format flash disk ?03:38
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Frack-Hessetrekdanne: now it works. thx :D03:39
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trekdannem477: mkdosfs?03:41
Frack-Hessethat wasn't what i was searching for =(03:41
trekdanneFrack-Hesse: hmm sorry don't that familiar with ubuntu03:42
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m477trekdanne: what doest that mean mkdosfs: /dev/sda1 contains a mounted file system. ?03:44
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trekdannem477: you should run "mkdosfs /dev/your_flash_drive_partion"03:45
pekujam477, unmount it03:45
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Frack-Hessea good partitioning tool for kde is .... ? :D03:46
trekdanneyea but make sure /dev/sda1 is your flash drive :P03:46
m477trekdanne: i did03:46
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m477trekdanne: it is03:47
trekdanneso 1) you have unmounted it and 2) you're running "msdosfs /dev/sda1" ?03:47
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m477pekuja: i unmounted and /dev/sda1: No such file or directory03:47
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m477mkdosfs /dev/sda03:48
m477sda or sda1 should be ?03:48
m477so what now ?03:48
m477i unmounted03:49
trekdannetry "mkdosfs /dev/sda1"03:49
m477 /dev/sda1: No such file or directory03:49
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setkehheya how be every one03:50
trekdannehmm you may need to partion your flash drive first03:50
trekdanneyou should be able to do that in your partion tool of choice, eg. "qtparted"03:50
trekdanneare you following me?03:51
setkehlol no03:51
m477so how make partition03:51
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trekdannemake sure "qtparted" is installed with "sudo apt-get install qtparted"03:52
trekdanneand then run qtparted03:53
setkehwhat distro are people useing ????03:53
trekdanneeeh #kubuntu perhaps03:53
trekdannem477: in qtparted you should be able to select sda and then hit "create"03:54
ubuntu_hi all03:54
Frack-Hessei should have had an extra partition for my home directory in the first place =(03:54
setkehheya ubuntu how are you03:55
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:55
m477trekdanne: crash ;/03:55
ubuntu_hi all03:55
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ubuntu_Any one running Kubuntu on a mac03:56
m477or wait03:56
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m477trekdanne:  i must mount again sda ?03:56
setkehim running ubuntu in VMware03:57
ubuntu_Am running kubuntu live on ibook G3 and i find it fast compared to Ubuntu03:57
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Frack-Hesseubuntu_: i too find kde faster than gnome03:58
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setkehi found live to be more laggy than installed but im half way through downloading other distros on my host OS lol03:59
trekdannem477: no don't mount it03:59
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theverantwhat's a good folder sync utility?03:59
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m477trekdanne: but when it isnt mount this qparted dont see that partition04:00
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setkehbut i havent had a problem with ubuntu andsd thts with menmory swapping between my host os an my vmware04:00
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trekdannem477: hmm I thought you didn't have any partion hmm 0_o04:01
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m477trekdanne: there is04:01
ubuntu_this my first time on a mac am even wondering about the extra keys on the keyboard04:01
trekdannem477: and it's named /dev/sda1 ?04:01
setkehi hate mac with a passion04:02
setkehvery crappy04:02
m477nevermind i did format and works now04:02
trekdannem447: :)04:02
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ubuntu_i just like this 12inch ibook for everyday work, i cant say much about mac cuz this the first one i have every tried04:03
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setkehim running windows XP on a vista compatable notebook designed for windows very high end notebook lol04:05
ubuntu_where can i get information about the mac touchpad and the mouse buttons, cuz i cant figure out right click04:05
setkehhave you tried google ??????????04:06
m477trekdanne: hmm now i can copy there nothing althought im on root04:06
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ubuntu_setkeh: Am trying04:06
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jovani have bought a new monitor but i have the same problem with my nvidia driver04:08
jovan (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-004:08
setkehubuntu_: i used to know what it was cuz i used to use them for graphic design before i found a few programs for windows04:08
m477trekdanne: i have there 2 partiton sda1 and sda-104:09
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wolferinejovan, which driver?04:10
jovannvidia glx-new (feisty)04:11
setkehpc08: heya hoy are you \04:11
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:11
pc08hell yeahhh04:12
pc08genii where r u from?04:12
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geniipc08: I live in Toronto Canada but from London, Ontario in Canada04:13
pc08i see04:13
geniiAny pending problems ppl have?04:13
pc08how old r u???04:14
geniipc08: Old enough to know better but young enough not to care04:14
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Naitseany body know howto configure udev??04:14
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setkehgenii: lol nice combasck lol04:15
geniisetkeh: :)04:15
pc08i love to fuck04:15
geniiNaitse: What about udev did you want to configure?04:15
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Naitsei got 4 partition 2 with window$ and 2 with linux04:16
setkehpc08:  why must you swear when you have been warned prior04:16
Naitsethe udev showme the partition with window$04:16
Naitsebut i dont want this04:16
Naitsemy english sucks... sorry04:16
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setkehNaitse: your doing well with your english lol04:16
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NaitseI reed some howtos bout cant make the partitions desapiear04:17
geniiNaitse: I am not sure i understand exactly. you can only see your windows partitions and not your linux partitions when you use the file managaer?04:17
Naitsei see all partitions04:17
Naitsebut i want to se only the linux partitions04:17
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pc08usa suck!!! %$#@!!!04:18
setkehhe see all the partions but he doesent want to see them all he only wants to see the linux ones when he is looking at them from linux04:18
ksivajigenii are you there ?04:18
yrgNaitse: you could just delete the others from /etc/fstab04:18
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Naitseon the fstab does not apear04:19
geniiNaitse: Ah, Ok. not a job for udev then :) open the fstab file by: kdesu kate /etc/fstab    then put a # in front of lines which say vfat or ntfs  in them. save the file. then next time you will not see them anymore.04:19
geniiksivaji: Yes, but helping another right now.04:19
Naitsenono on the fstab does not apear the windows partition04:19
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Naitseim screw :S04:20
Naitseany idea?04:20
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MarkSchmidthi there fellow kubuntians04:21
MarkSchmidti have a quick question and hopoe someone here can help me04:21
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MarkSchmidti have an ntfs-partition with windows on it, mounted via ntfs-3g04:21
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MarkSchmidtit works fine so far, but now i have created a folder in windows which is not shown in konqueror04:21
AqeelaeHi, whats the best way to install all my beloved multimedia codecs (yes all of them) without using Automatix?04:21
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geniiNaitse: Please pastebin theese results:   sudo fdisk -l       and: blkid    and a copy of the /etc/fstab file may not hurt. i can look to see what may be there.04:22
MarkSchmidtany ideas why this could be the case? THANKS A LOT!!04:22
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trekdanneAqeelae: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs ??04:22
Naitseok just wait:P the linux pc is on other room :P04:22
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Aqeelaewill that take care of all of them?04:23
trekdanneAqeelae: and download essentials from MPlayer's site04:23
genii!paste | Naitse       In case you did not know about the way to paste longer things not in the channel04:23
ubotuNaitse       In case you did not know about the way to paste longer things not in the channel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:23
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dromerdamnit, why won't twinview work on my pc :'(04:24
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MarkSchmidtmy fstab is like this: /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,umask=000 0 004:25
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Naitse2hi again04:25
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Naitse2linux:/etc# blkid04:26
Naitse2/dev/sda1: TYPE="ntfs"04:26
Naitse2/dev/sda2: TYPE="ntfs"04:26
Naitse2/dev/sda3: TYPE="ntfs"04:26
Naitse2/dev/sda5: UUID="68bdaa60-483f-4c4c-bab1-75a9f097604a" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"04:26
Naitse2/dev/sda6: TYPE="swap"04:26
Naitse2/dev/sdb1: UUID="F427-A610" TYPE="vfat"04:26
Naitse2eso me muestra el blkid04:26
Daisuke_Ido!paste | Naitse2, pay attention!04:28
ubotuNaitse2, pay attention!: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:28
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Daisuke_Idommm, coffee04:29
Naitse2ahi esta el fdisk -l04:30
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geniiNaitse2: OK reading04:30
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Naitse2sorry here is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33240/04:32
Naitse2the fdisk blkid an fstab04:32
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geniiNaitse2: OK, so where again are you seeing the Windoze partitions that you do not want to see them anymore?04:34
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Naitse2when go to system:/media04:35
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Naitse2but if only go to /media there is nothig04:35
Naitse2only cdrom and floppy04:36
Naitse2and datos04:36
Naitse2but not the other things04:36
geniiwork, brb04:36
imoAnybody, how can I install libtermcap the kubuntu-way?04:36
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geniiNaitse2: Ah, OK. It is that the directories for those things were made and not removed. but they are not being mounted or read04:38
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Naitse2how can i remove them?04:38
geniiNaitse2: Wait, You want to see the windoze partitions?04:38
geniiNaitse2: OK, just do: sudo rmdir /media/<offendingnamehere>04:39
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Naitse2but on /media the is not a directory for the sda1 partition04:40
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soulrider!find openoffice04:41
ubotuFound: dictionaries-common, myspell-af, myspell-de-at, myspell-de-ch, myspell-de-de (and 176 others)04:41
Naitse2the only place that make reference to this partitions is /dev/disk/by-uuid04:41
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Naitse2and by-path an by-id04:41
Naitse2on this folders are links to the partitions, if i erase them when i boot up they apear again04:42
geniiNaitse2: Ah, this may be then a case to modify the udev.rules after all then04:43
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geniiNaitse2: 1 moment i will look for an example04:43
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volnhow can I change ugly fonts in Firefox during viewing web pages?04:44
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Naitse2genii: thai is"!!04:44
ksivajivoln edit->preferences04:44
AngelEyes1701Heyo, I am looking for some help? I am a complete n00b in Linux, and this is my second attempt at making it work as my primary OS. All and any help is appreciated.04:44
volnnot interface04:45
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mahdiAngelEyes1701: what do you need help with?04:45
volnugly fonts in web pages04:45
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volni know that exist freetype fonts04:46
AngelEyes1701mahdi: Screen refresh rate.04:46
hsaterais there an especific way to read nfo files in ubuntu?04:47
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trekdanneis there any image-tagging program for kde?04:48
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trekdannei would rather store everything locally04:50
Naitse2genii: do you want to I paste my udev.rules?04:50
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Daisuke_Idohsatera: kate, gedit, vi, pico, nano, emacs if you're brave04:50
geniiNaitse2: No, that is OK04:50
Daisuke_Idonfo files are plain text04:50
mahdiAngelEyes1701: what specifically is wrong with your refresh rate?04:50
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer04:50
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geniiNaitse2: I am not overly familiar with the hd udev parts, but it looks like where the change should be made is /etc/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules                 However, the exact entry there could be tricky.04:51
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Naitse2genii: Ok thanks!!! very much!04:52
m477trekdanne: hi now when i copy something on this flesh and unmount automatic it is delating04:52
geniiNaitse2: You may find pointers here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16822104:53
hsateranano is very nice04:53
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trekdannem477: hmm  maybe that's because the data isn't written to the drive before you unplugg it. try to right-click and select "safetly remove"04:55
trekdanneor simply umount it manually04:56
jhutchinsor sync04:56
m477trekdanne: exacly when i "safetly unmount" i got eror04:57
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trekdannewhat error?04:57
m477big a lot to write04:58
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logixoulHiya - unplugging my net cable makes accessing http://localhost (Apache2) impossible. What gives?04:58
m477trekdanne: also everytime error is other04:58
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ksivajijhutchins i configured apache2 on my system it is fine now04:59
jhutchinsksivaji: Good, I thought you were making progress on figuring it out.04:59
trekdannem447: different error every time huh? do you get the same kind of error if you umount the device?04:59
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jhutchinslogixoul: You are not listening on the loopback interface.05:00
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logixouljhutchins: ohh, I see. how do I fix that?05:00
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[ifr0g] where could i find kubuntu bug fixes and advisories ?05:01
jhutchinslogixoul: Should be able to find the listen directive in the conf file.05:01
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m477trekdanne: yes05:02
m477trekdanne: do u need screen ?05:03
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m477trekdanne: im uploading it05:04
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m477here you go05:05
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trekdannem477: hmm strange ..05:07
m477i know05:07
m477sometime is bigger error05:07
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trekdannem477: hmm i actually don't know ...05:19
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:26
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elite101im having problems installing or even getting shockwave player on this. it says on the adobe website when i go to download it "We are unable to locate a Web player that matches your platform and browser." im using firefox and i tried using kopete05:28
elite101i mean konqueror05:28
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elite101not kopete05:28
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elite101anyone got shockwave player working?05:29
elite101i would i have flashplayer9 just not shockwave player?05:29
stdinelite101: there is no shockwave for linux05:29
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elite101ohh that sucks05:29
stdinblame adobe, I do05:29
elite101is there an alternative to let shockwave games play?05:29
elite101i guess not eh?05:29
elite101shoot that sucks alot05:30
elite101well atleast i can still play java games :P05:30
stdinsend a complaint to adobe, not that they'll listen05:30
Daisuke_Idothey provided flash05:30
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Daisuke_Idowork time :\05:30
elite101they will evauntally get sick of us complaing they will have to make one05:30
Daisuke_Idoit seems like i'm going in earlier every day :(05:30
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elite101well there is no way at all to play shockwave games without shockwave player?05:31
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elite101i guess not or else someone would have an alternative05:32
stdinyou're lucky we got them to give us flash05:32
elite101yeah really05:32
stdinthey totally missed out version 8 for linux05:32
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elite101why will they not give shockwave to linux? just because its free-source they think someone will "reverse-engineer it"?05:33
elite101or they just dont have the time?05:33
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stdinelite101: no, flash isn't open source, but we have that. there really is no reason why05:33
NickPrestaelite101, I believe, at one point, they believed GNU+Linux, *BSD, etc users to be unimportant. I also believe that they have come to realize that there are enough of us now to warrant proper plugins.05:34
elite101thanx for the link Jhutchins, does that mean i can get flash working on it using wine and firefox?05:34
elite101because we all know linux is better than windows :P05:35
stdinelite101: using firefox IN wine...05:35
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elite101so i have to get a "windows" firefox?05:35
elite101this will be good because my firefox rite now is out dated05:35
stdinI have
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elite101i cant update untill another 6months05:36
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jhutchinsDoesn't make sense.05:37
elite101because thats what it says05:37
stdinwhat what says?05:38
elite101i have 6.06.1 LTS it says on the cd i have to wait 6months for every update or something?05:38
elite101the cd cover05:38
elite101like the package it comes in05:38
stdinfrom the release date, yes05:38
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stdinthere's been 6.10 and 7.04 since then05:38
elite101ohh ic well i did a re-install on this HDD and now do i have to wait 6months?05:38
elite101well i just orderd thoes05:38
elite101like 3weeks ago05:39
stdinno point05:39
elite101why not?05:39
stdinin 2 months 7.10 comes out, 7.10 = Oct 0705:39
elite101i can just upgrade05:39
elite101im always behind05:39
stdinand yes, you can just upgrade05:39
elite101k well thats good now that i have a DVD drive now05:39
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elite101well i thought there is a way to "safely" upgrade because if i do it wrong i can screw up the whole system?05:40
stdinyou'll have to go dapper > edgy > feisty, then feisty > gutsy when it's out05:40
elite101i will get  7.04 and then update from that05:41
elite101to 7.1005:41
martijn81how stable is kde4 at the moment?05:41
NickPrestaGuys, I want to setup a dedicated server to host various things like pictures to small projects (Django Forum). I will not be needing a GUI and I will not be needing the LAMP packages that comes with *buntu - I like to use the latest versions for my server so I compile Apache, PHP, MySQL, etc. What do you suggest?05:41
stdinmartijn81: not very stable at all05:41
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jhutchins:v mozilla-firefox -v 6.1005:41
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martijn81stdin: i see, bummer because i can't  wait...05:41
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elite101this ways its not 6.06 6.10 7.04 7.10 7.14 7.50 8.06 then .... :P05:42
elite101wich it will be in like 1 more year or so05:42
elite101sorry duhh*** lol that i mean 7.1205:42
elite101there is no 14th month05:42
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elite101or 5005:42
elite101i was making that up05:42
elite101im just saying05:42
jhutchins!info mozilla-firefox edgy05:43
ubotumozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 55 kB, installed size 116 kB05:43
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elite101it would be easier to update using the 7.04 in the mail and wait then going from 6.06 to 7.1005:43
stdinelite101: it goes in 8 month cycles05:43
stdinelite101: 605:43
stdinelite101: 6.10 7.04 7.10 8.04 etc05:43
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jhutchins!release | elite10105:43
ubotuelite101: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases05:43
elite101i have an out-dated system. althou when version's get better? will i need a better pc?05:44
stdinNickPresta: go with debian05:44
yukinoaayuda en esaol05:44
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:44
jhutchinselite101: If you enable the correct repositories, you can upgrade firefox to
NickPrestastdin, I was thinking of Debian, since that is what I first used for my server but I was wondering if the packages would be too old to run with the latest versions of a LAMP setup05:45
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NickPrestastdin, unless I went with unstable05:45
stdinNickPresta: yeah, I was going to say that05:46
jhutchinsNickPresta: I'd either use lts if you're really paranoid about stability, or just feisty/gutsy since it's a small personal project and you can afford to play with it.05:46
stdinNickPresta: there's always LFS :p05:46
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NickPrestastdin, heh. I've read the manual about 15 times and I still don't have the time to dedicate to a LFS box.05:46
jhutchinsNickPresta: Installing from source breaks the package management, and you won't be able to get help from the ubuntu support channels.05:46
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jhutchinsNickPresta: You might want to play with gentoo for a bit if you belive there's any advantage to compiling your own packages.05:47
NickPrestajhutchins, I figured I might as well go with ubuntu feisty (server install) and just install nothing when asked. Then install wget, elinks and such and grab my sources and compile. It is for a personal project so you're right. I can afford to play around a bit. I'm not _too_ concerned about stability.05:47
jhutchinsNickPresta: That makes pretty good sense.05:47
stdinNickPresta: debian or just go with a desktop k|x|ubuntu install and disable(or remove) the desktop05:48
NickPrestajhutchins, I had a gentoo server running previously (I had to give that box to my cousin) and I didn't see a huge advantage in using it since I wasn't really installing anything. It was more trouble to setup than say Ubuntu. I can have a vanilla install of *buntu up in 20 minutes. Gentoo, not so much since it's a fairly old box.05:49
stdinNickPresta: my old desktop runs as a server with kubuntu feisty right now, I just removed a load of services to improve boot time and such05:49
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NickPrestastdin, yeah. I think I might just do do.05:49
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elite101i have a spare HDD that i wanna put movies on but im not sure what file system to format to so i can do this? should "FAT16/32" work? or can i make it a linux-swap?05:50
elite101i have Gparted rite now and im just wondering so i can back-up my movies to another HDD so they dont take up so much space05:51
jhutchinselite101: Um, you don't store files on a swap partition.05:51
elite101i kinda firgured that05:51
jhutchinselite101: Does it need to be accessible in Windows?  WHat version?05:51
elite101but im not sure what file system Kubuntu will mount automatically05:51
elite101no windows05:52
elite101only linux05:52
jhutchinselite101: The standard linux file system for ubuntu is ext3, and i don't see any reason you wouldn't want to use that.05:52
elite101yeah well will fat work at all05:52
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elite101so wich one is the best one that will mount easy and wil be accesiable?05:53
NickPrestaelite101, ext305:54
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elite101okay but is that one anygood?05:54
stdinyes, you're using it now05:54
NickPrestaelite101, I assume you're using it right now :)05:54
elite101yeah i know that05:54
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elite101but say @ on point will that work in windows? or i need something like drivers to do something05:55
elite101im not going to use the spare HDD in windows but if there is ever a time05:55
NickPrestaelite101, there are ways to mount an ext3 partition on windows.05:55
stdinyou'd need a windows driver, or just use FAT32, but you can't have large files on FAT3205:55
elite101like a program?05:55
_stranger_guys can u tell me how do i change the default options on the filetypes which i can create by right-clicking on desktop or in any folder?05:55
elite101well i thought fat 32 can only support 4gig partitions?05:56
elite101im gonna need like a 30gb partition :)05:56
kjmckGood morning. Is there anyway to resume an interrupted install from Feisty CD?05:56
NickPrestaelite101, I would say if you _must_ have read/write in Windows and Linux, go with NTFS and use ntfs_3g in linux.05:56
stdinelite101: no, but it can only handle <2GB files05:57
elite101ic well the files for my movies are only like 700-1.5gb at the most05:57
elite101i dont think i ever had a file that was 2gb?05:57
elite101but i c what u mean thanx05:58
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soulriderwhat can i type to see running services?05:59
stdinsudo netstat -lnp | less06:00
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stdinis one way06:00
soulriderother ways? :P06:00
soulrideri think this is enough, thanks stdin06:01
llarssonnot sure what you mean, ps and top ?06:01
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mintsoupHi--I have a question about switching to kubuntu from ubuntu, and it regards compiz fusion which I currently have installed.  And of course that question is will I have to reinstall compiz under kde or anything like that?06:02
stdinno, just make sure you have the compiz-kde package installed06:02
mintsoupthanks ;)06:02
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mintsoupoh also whats the easiest way to get to kubuntu from ubuntu?06:03
elite101the gprated frooze at 1of2 operatitons?06:03
elite101when formatting to ext306:03
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stdinmintsoup: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop06:03
mintsoupand then if i decide i want to do away with ubuntu, can i run sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop or something similar?06:04
httpdssmintsoup: add the compiz-kde and libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig06:04
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stdinmintsoup: www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde06:05
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mintsoupthank you very much both of you06:06
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|WAL|adept keeps telling me that the apt db is locked, but I don't know of anything else running06:06
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:07
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elite101well i formatted to EXT3 and its not letting me mount the HDD?06:08
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stdinany errors you want to tell us?06:08
Assidstdin: man .. im missing my compiz-fusion :(06:08
|WAL|stdin: fixed it, thanks06:09
Assidstill havent fixed it06:09
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elite101mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab06:10
elite101Please check that the device is plugged correctly.06:10
elite101thats what it says?06:10
elite101im not sure why?06:10
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stdinelite101: because you haven't made an entry for it in fstab?06:11
elite101no lol i guess not06:11
elite101how do u do that?06:11
spawn57are you using feisty elite101?06:11
spawn57just checking06:12
elite1016.06.1 LTS06:12
stdinelite101: is there a system settings > disk & filesystems  ?06:12
elite101okay now what?06:13
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stdinadd it there06:13
elite101okay its there its just that its not enabled?06:13
elite101do i have to enable it?06:13
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stdinI think so06:14
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elite101well the option is faded out? *yes im in admin mode*06:14
stdintry editing it, so it has the type ext306:15
elite101it wont let me modify it at all? i tried my HDD im on now and it lets me? but yet when i select the spare HDD the enable button is still faded out i cant do anything unless i enable it?06:15
stdinclose that, press alt-f2 and type in "kdesu kate /etc/fstab06:16
stdinpost the line with hda1 on it06:16
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stdinpost the line06:18
elite101what line tho?06:18
stdinthe one with hda1 on it06:18
elite101kate came up?06:18
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elite101it looks normal to me?06:19
elite101what do i have to edit?06:19
stdinpost it here06:19
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elite101dev/hdb1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       106:20
elite101# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>06:20
stdinI thought you said it was hda1, not hdb1?06:20
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elite101ohh sorry06:20
elite101lol wrong one06:20
elite101u see06:20
elite101im booting off the slave one rite now i have to switch them so its proper the slave HDD has kubuntu on it the master one has EXT3 (spare kinda)06:21
elite101so its a little backwards rite now06:21
elite101but there is non of them that say hda1?06:22
elite101so what does that mean06:22
elite101its not even mounted yet?06:22
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stdinwhat partition did you format?06:23
elite101there was only 1 on the spare HDD06:23
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elite1011partition and its now EXT306:24
stdinso it's hdb or hda?06:24
elite101i formatted it and made it EXT3 the whole HDD06:24
elite101hdb is the one im on rite now06:24
stdinis /dev/hda1 in your /etc/fstab?06:24
elite101but it does not show HDA in the kate?06:24
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stdinok add "/dev/hda1  /media/hda1  ext3 defaults,auto 0 0"06:25
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rajkalyanhi everyone06:27
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elite101just type it in between where?06:27
stdinelite101: at the bottom is ok, just make sure to add a blank line after that06:28
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs06:28
elite101blank line?06:28
rajkalyancan someone help me06:28
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stdin!ask | rajkalyan06:29
uboturajkalyan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:29
elite101stdin does it have to be in the rite order?06:29
rajkalyanubotu i know you06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i know you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
stdinelite101: it has to be in the order I put it06:29
rajkalyanubotu i know you06:29
stdinrajkalyan: ubotu is not human06:30
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:30
elite101okay but the spaces are not in order from the other HDD?06:30
rajkalyanoh reallu06:30
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rajkalyani need help setting up my wireless card06:30
stdinelite101: spacing doesn't matter06:30
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rajkalyani have a trendnet tew 421pc06:31
rajkalyani need help setting it up06:31
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rajkalyananyone there06:32
stdinwhat is a trendnet tew 421pc?06:32
rajkalyanwireless acrd06:32
rajkalyani had it working06:33
stdinrajkalyan: <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TRENDnet_TEW-421PC_H/W%3aB1_%28ndiswrapper%29>06:33
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rajkalyanthank you06:34
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rajkalyanhelp i cant install firefox06:36
rajkalyansomeone help me06:36
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:36
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elite101thanx alot stdin my hdd works and is mounted** wuu!06:36
rajkalyanthank you06:37
elite101sweet now to go on some pirate....lol jk06:37
rajkalyanno it wont even start :'(06:40
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rajkalyani still cant install firefox06:41
rajkalyanwhats the problem06:41
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stdinhow are you trying to install it and what's not working?06:42
rajkalyanim using adept installer06:43
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rajkalyanim using adept installer06:44
jhutchinsrajkalyan: We can't help you unless you tell us what's happening.06:44
rajkalyanim on06:44
stdinwhat's not working?06:45
rajkalyanadept installer06:45
rajkalyani cant install firefox06:45
geniiLikely your updater is running in the background06:45
stdinrajkalyan: yeah, so what's not working? how do you know it's not working, what does it say?06:45
rajkalyanthe icon is grayed out06:46
rajkalyani cant click it06:46
geniiet voila06:46
rajkalyanthe only open programs are konversation and adept installer06:46
geniiand when you hover it says something like another process is running etc etc06:47
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geniirajkalyan: When you just sit the mouse on the icon a box might pop up sating something informative06:47
rajkalyanok ill try that06:47
rajkalyannope nothing06:48
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rajkalyanplease help me06:48
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rajkalyanim running it as root06:49
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stdinhow do you know?06:49
rajkalyanit asked me for my root password06:49
rajkalyanwhen i started it06:49
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stdinrajkalyan: what happens when you try to click the request install button?06:50
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rajkalyanthere is no buttongl ikr that06:50
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rajkalyanthis is installer06:50
rajkalyannot package manager06:50
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stdinrajkalyan: open the package manager from KMenu > System > Adept Manager06:52
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rajkalyani want the installer!!06:52
rajkalyannot the manager06:52
rajkalyanfirefox is in installer06:53
stdinit's in the package manager too06:53
stdinsame thing06:53
skeithWill Kubuntu Gutsy use apparmor, or is that Ubuntu specific?06:53
stdinskeith: yes it will06:53
rajkalyanill see06:53
jhutchinsrajkalyan: Well, go for it if you know how to fix it.  Otherwise, consider following our instructions.06:53
jhutchinsrajkalyan: You can't ask for our help then say "i don't want to do that".06:53
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geniijhutchins: Well said06:54
rajkalyani dont know what to do06:55
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rajkalyanits not installed!!06:56
hydranthi all06:56
rajkalyanit not in manager!!06:56
arunhi kids06:56
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rajkalyani STILL cant in stall it06:57
stdinrajkalyan: type firefox in to the search box, then click on the line "firefox" then click the "Request Install" button, then click "apply changes"06:57
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rajkalyanit not there!!06:57
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stdinhave you looked??06:57
arunthanks genii06:57
geniistdin: Looks like uncommented deb cdrom   entry or commented out sources06:57
geniiarun: You're very welcome06:58
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stdinrajkalyan: click File > Manage Repositories, make sure all those boxes are checked06:58
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rajkalyanit not there!!!!!06:58
tib_How can y automaticaly detect my USB key?06:58
jhutchinsrajkalyan: what's not where?06:59
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stdinrajkalyan: I'll repeat, click File > Manage Repositories, make sure all those boxes are checked06:59
jhutchins!info mozilla-firefox06:59
ubotumozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 116 kB06:59
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rajkalyanIT NOT THERE!!!!07:00
stdinrajkalyan: WHAT is not there??07:00
jhutchinsrajkalyan: What is not there?07:00
jhutchinsrajkalyan: We didn't say it was.07:01
rajkalyani still cant instll it07:01
jhutchinsDid you do what stdin told you to do?07:01
jhutchinsrajkalyan: Are all the boxes checked?07:01
stdinrajkalyan: have you done File > Manage Repositories, make sure all those boxes are checked ???07:01
rajkalyanthat not there07:01
stdinrajkalyan: ok, now you click "Fetch All Updates"07:01
stdinor "Fetch Updates" rather07:01
rajkalyannothing there07:02
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.07:02
jhutchinsrajkalyan: What is your native language?07:02
rajkalyani shouldnt say it07:02
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rajkalyanbut how do i install firefox07:03
jhutchinsrajkalyan: You seem to have a lot of trouble following simple english instructions.07:03
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jhutchinsrajkalyan: We can't help you.  You won't follow directions.07:03
rajkalyanfine ill isten07:03
rajkalyanwhat do i do07:03
stdinClick the "Fetch Updates"  buttin07:04
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rajkalyanthen what?07:04
stdinnow look for "firefox"07:04
jhutchinsstdin: Why not just put him in the console.07:04
stdinjhutchins: because he'll just ask again if he doesn't learn how to do it himself07:05
jhutchinsstdin: As long as he has a GUI, he thinks he knows what's happening.  Get him on unfamiliar ground and he might follow directions.07:05
Tm_Tstdin <307:05
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rajkalyanits taking a long while07:05
rajkalyanhow do you do that?07:05
jhutchinsgenii: Who's on first, of course.07:05
rajkalyanwith the *07:05
stdinrajkalyan: first things first, install firefox07:06
geniirajkalyan: Don't get distracted. concentrate on what stdin and jhutchins are saying07:06
me-hi does anyone know if the version of "alsa-oss" has to be the same as the one from "alsa-sources" that it works?07:06
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geniijhutchins: :)07:07
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rajkalyanthere still no firefox thing07:07
rajkalyannow there is07:07
stdinme-: afaik aoss is just a script that adds alsa librarys to the LD_PRELOAD varable, so I'd guess no07:07
rajkalyanthank you07:07
stdinme-: but feel free to ask in #alsa07:07
stdinrajkalyan: ok :)07:08
me-stdin: ah ok ty very much07:08
genii!helpercookie |stdin07:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about helpercookie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:08
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genii!helpersnack |stdin07:08
ubotustdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!07:08
geniiThere, better...07:08
Tm_Ta cookie!07:08
stdinrajkalyan: now to the other question, you type "/me message" to use the * rajkalyan something...07:08
rajkalyanok thank you07:09
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stdinI think I'll go get one07:09
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Tm_Tthere's a cookie07:09
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rajkalyanwhat is talk?07:09
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jhutchinsrajkalyan: Channel Operator stuff. Likely to be seen when there is too much punctiation (!!!!) or ALL CAPS.07:11
rajkalyanok thank you07:11
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harmentalhey guys...what is the easiest way to password protect a folder?07:11
jhutchinsharmental: depends a lot on what kind of a folder it is.  A network share?  Just a folder within a filesytem?07:11
rajkalyanhey guys07:12
stdinharmental: I'd just restrict it's permissions07:12
rajkalyanwho uses firefox07:12
harmentaljhutchins: just a 5GB folder in my system...07:12
stdinrajkalyan: a lot of people do07:12
neverblueapp for checking sound?07:12
neverbluevolumes, etc...07:12
geniirajkalyan: I would suggest 2 addons for firefox. DownThemAll and New Tab Homepage07:13
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rajkalyananyone use konqueror07:14
rajkalyani need to save disk space07:14
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rajkalyani only have like half a gig free07:15
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rajkalyan!helpersnack |stdin07:16
ubotustdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!07:16
rajkalyan!helpersnack |rajkalyan07:17
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harmentaljhutchins: that worked like a charm!!!07:17
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jhutchinsharmental: That was stdin, but great.07:17
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harmentalthx stdin07:18
harmentaland thx jhutchins anyways07:18
Jmanfoocat /var/log/dmesg.log > stdin :-P07:19
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JmanfooAGH!! now my kernel logs are teh gone!07:20
mintsoupI'm not at my computer right now, so this might be a dumb question since i can't see kde menus and stuff, but is there a way to turn off the bouncy cursor animations that annoyed me so much last time i tried kubuntu?07:20
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Jmanfooits called launch feedback07:20
Jmanfooin appearances07:20
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trekdanne!hi | nex07:26
ubotunex: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:26
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rajkalyan!hi | rajkalyan07:28
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pag!botabuse | rajkalyan07:28
uboturajkalyan: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...07:28
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pagrajkalyan, it's also useless to pipe the command to yourself - it wont work  /msg ubotu !something   will ;)07:29
rajkalyan!botabuse | pag07:29
ubotupag: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...07:29
geniistdin: I'd say something but my appendix broke07:30
trekdannehaving a good time on IRC, rajkalyan?07:30
rajkalyanare you07:30
|Assid|stupid compiz07:31
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nexI have aquestion07:32
nexa question*07:32
arun!ask nex07:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask nex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:32
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about something - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:32
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:32
arunnex: whats up07:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about copmiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:32
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:33
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:33
nexI'm trying to get beryl to start up  when I log on, I'm using ubuntu 7.04, but the xgl session does not show up under session options on the log on screen07:33
stdinUbotu, tell rajkalyan about botabuse | rajkalyan, see the private message from Ubotu07:33
pagrajkalyan, please stop abusing the bot.07:33
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stdinnex: did you follow the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl it tells you how to make it show up in the sessions menu07:34
rajkalyanhr not get to gui07:34
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jhutchinsnex: Sorry 'bout the noise here.  There's also #ubuntu-effects, where more people are actually running beryl.07:35
elite101hey what is the ubuntu studio channel?07:35
rajkalyanim loking07:35
Assidstdin: how do i know if im using xgl or what07:35
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elite101#ubuntu-studio ?07:35
Assidi think im using xgl07:35
stdinAssid: you'd have to install xgl to use it07:35
pagelite101, that or #ubuntustudio  not sure which one07:36
stdinAssid: did you install xserver-xgl?07:36
Assidno clue.. lemme check apt07:36
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Assidyeah i think i did07:36
nexyes I installed xserver-xgl07:36
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Assidnot sure im using xserver-xgl tho07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yukuake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:37
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Assidi mean actually using it .. not just installing it07:37
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Danker Could somebody suggest a good (tree) chart, diagram, schemes making program (something like oo.o draw or ms powerpoint, but more specialized)?07:37
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elite101any one try out JackRack?07:37
stdinAssid: erm, maybe "pidof Xgl" would show it07:37
Assidstdin: yep.. nothing07:37
stdinAssid: well then you're probably running normal X07:38
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Assidstdin: yewah.. someone told me xgl causes issues or something .. not sure how right it is07:38
jbrouhardhi all07:38
genii!info kivio | Danker07:39
ubotudanker: kivio: a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 564 kB, installed size 1808 kB07:39
stdinAssid: if you have an older version of the nvidia driver, or ATI card, then you'll need it07:39
jhutchinsxgl is mostly for 3d rendering and effects.07:39
Assidi am using the nvidial-new-glx or whatever it is07:40
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Assidactually i got Envy which did it as well got me07:40
stdinAssid: you probably don't need it then, that should use AIGLX just fine07:40
rajkalyan!COOL is HOT07:40
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stdinrajkalyan: you need to stop that07:40
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parsniphi all07:41
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parsnipI've damaged a KDE setting somewhere can someone please advise07:41
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geniiWhat are the symtoms of this damage?07:42
nexI followed the guide, and now xgl shows up as a session start up07:42
Assidstdin: tried lg3d?07:42
parsnipwhen i click a folder shortcut on my desktop - it opens kscd07:42
_stranger_lg3d is really messed up07:42
nexbut, when I start that session all the graphics are really messed up07:42
parsnipi tried to make cds autorun with kscd but now it does folders too07:42
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parsnipcan anyone advise07:42
nexcould xgl be configured incorrectly?07:42
Assid_stranger_:  im stuck without compiz atm :(07:42
stdinAssid: is that the new java looking glass thing?07:43
_stranger_nex, i got the same exact problem07:43
Assidstdin: yeah07:43
stdinAssid: no, I have tried the older version, but not that one07:43
stdinAssid: kills my CPU :p07:43
Assidhehe.. what processor ?07:43
nexnot cool07:44
stdinAssid: on this laptop I have a Intel Celeron M 1.73GHz07:44
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Assidthats the one runnning gutsy ?07:45
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parsnipAssid: is there any way to reset file associations in KDE?07:45
geniiparsnip: What sort of tutorial or method did you do to try and make it autorun the cds?07:45
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parsnipgenii: I right clicked the cd and said open with -> kscd07:46
Assidparsnip: i think configuring konqueror should do the job07:46
_stranger_guys, does anyone know where i can change the defaults for the filetypes, which i can create by right-clicking on my desktop or in any folder?07:46
parsnipnow when i click my home shortcut on my deskto pit tries to load it in kscd07:46
nexanyone have any idea how to fix messed up grahics when starting xgl as a session?07:46
Assidstdin: im seriouslyt considerting gutsy for nothing else but access to the compiz repository07:46
parsnipAssid: is there a config file I can regenerate?07:47
geniiparsnip: I've never seen that prob before ...googling about it now07:47
parsnipgenii: thanks :)07:47
rajkalyanhow do i get my trendnet tew421pc to work07:47
stdinAssid: it's _almost_ stable :p07:47
Assidparsnip: > konqueror >settings >configure konqueror > file associations07:48
Assidstdin: whats broken .. so far ?07:48
Assidthat ytou can see07:48
stdinrajkalyan: I gave you the link07:48
rajkalyanthat not enough07:48
rajkalyani try it07:48
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stdinAssid: well, for me, I lost the use of my media keys. and hibernate/suspend was broken for a while07:49
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Assidstdin: not like loss of data or anything right? no real show stoppers?07:50
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stdinnot for me07:51
stdinbut it could break at any time :p07:51
Assidhaha.. reminds me of windows07:51
_stranger_guys, come on, i know u know it )07:51
titanix88stdin: whazzup?07:51
titanix88stdin: whazzup?07:51
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stdinhey :)07:52
Assidstdin: so you think i should move to it ?07:52
geniiparsnip: Apparently from what i can find you need to locate kscdrc file and edit AUTOPLAY  line to read AUTOPLAY=007:52
stdinAssid: up to you, depends if you're ok with working with bugs and telling dpkg to do what it's told :p07:53
titanix88assid:move to windows?07:53
parsnipgenii: cheers man, i'll check it out07:53
geniiparsnip: It may be in some dir like /usr/share/apps/kscd/kscdrc07:53
stdinAssid: but it's more stable now, 2 months till release07:53
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geniiparsnip: Hope it works. Report back if possible :)07:53
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gumjohow do I hide the statusbar in konqueror?07:54
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rajkalyanhow do i get my trendnet tew421pc to work07:55
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whizadreeunderdog5004: this is my n'teenth time installing07:56
parsnipgenii: i gotta split man07:57
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titanix88hey,how do u do that someone says that highlighting?07:57
titanix88hey,how do u do that someone says that highlighting?07:57
parsnipgenii: i'll let you know if its all good :)07:57
underdog5004whizadree, maybe you just have a bad nic07:57
stdintitanix88: you say their nickname07:58
whizadreedarn you had t o remind me i gotta fix someones pc07:58
titanix88stdin: i mean the text starting with star.07:59
whizadreeanyway how do i make my wlan be the default connection on boot07:59
stdintitanix88: oh, /me message here07:59
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Tm_Tplease stop that nonsense /me spam08:01
elite101hey is there a better Multimedia player that has acutall full-screen? i am using VLC but when i open up my DVD-rips it shows the screen like widescreen08:01
stdinelite101: vlc can play in full-screen08:02
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elite101yeah but it doesnt zoom in good08:02
elite101i mean like the full screeennnnn08:02
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llarssonhelp, i am trying to configure my wireless network card and all the guides out there say  iwconfig wlan0 set "AuthMode=WPA2PSK" however i get Error : unrecognised wireless request "set"08:03
titanix88elite : gxine is good.08:03
Assidstdin: okay give me your sources.list08:04
Assidim gonna update08:04
Assidand pray08:04
stdinelite101: you need to change the video out driver to xv, it's in Settings > Preferences > Output modules (with advanced on)08:04
stdinAssid: yeah08:04
Assidstdin: not gonna lose data right ?08:05
drbeamshi, what is that program called.  yukuake?08:05
stdinnot unless you delete it yourself or pull the plug half way through08:05
drbeamsnm, yakuake08:06
stdindrbeams: it's a terminal bases on konqueror that acts like the quake console. ie: it appears from the top of the screen when you press a certain key08:06
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gumjohow do I hide the statusbar in konqueror?08:07
Assidhehe.. okay.. sources.list please?08:07
drbeamsstdin: ya, i was not getting the name right so, aptitude was not catching it08:07
titanix88stdin i find vlc playing dvd with dizzy lines.why?08:07
logixoulgumjo: cant08:07
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stdinAssid: http://stdin.pastebin.us/3881508:07
titanix88someone help gumjo08:07
stdintitanix88: don't know, I don't get that08:08
Assidstdin: need to remember anything while upgrading?08:08
stdinAssid: remember to prey to the Linux Gods, it always seems to help me :)08:09
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Assidwe dont have penguins here :(08:09
llarssonanyone a wireless expert ? =P08:09
stdingumjo: if no one knows here, try asking in #kde08:09
Assidapt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade ?08:09
logixoulAssid: go to the temple then (aka zoo)08:09
drbeamsllarsson: chipset ?08:10
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llarssonralink, but the problem is setting up the interface config08:10
llarssoncompiled and loaded the module08:10
gumjosdin, okay08:10
llarssonintressting thought that it makes ubuntu-desktio hang08:11
Assidstdin: besides apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade ?08:11
titanix88gumjo everyone busy writing cli that no one knows a simple configuration.huh08:11
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stdinAssid: yeah, just make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed and a-g update && a-g dist-upgrade08:11
llarssondrbeams  iwconfig wlan0 set "AuthMode=WPA2PSK" -> Error : unrecognised wireless request "set"08:12
JohnFluxmy mum, a complete newbie at computers, rang me today, and said she hated her new computer08:12
JohnFluxit has vista on it, and she really does not like it08:12
Assidstdin: should i stop X ?08:12
stdinAssid: no08:13
drbeamsJohnFlux: that's what kubuntu is for :-)08:13
Assidstdin: know how to get apt to do multiple downloads per mirror ?08:13
stdinIf you don't hate Vista, you're Bill Gates08:13
JohnFluxdrbeams: meh.  A year ago she rang me saying that she didn't like linux and had gone out and bought XP08:13
llarssondrbeams i wouldnt give kubuntu to a complete newbie08:13
stdinAssid: you can't...08:13
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JohnFluxdrbeams: I paused then replied "mum, you didn't have linux.  you had windows 2000"08:13
JohnFluxshe was convinced that she had linux08:14
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jrwrI seem to be suck in 800x600 by the looks of my xorg.log i seems i dont have any vaild modes, and it auto dectects08:14
jhutchinsAssid: Best to just stick with the rate you've got.  If it's really bad, try another server.08:14
Assidtry another server ?08:14
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jhutchinsAssid: If you were to hit it with multiple grabs, it would probably just throttle you - most of 'em are at capacity 90% of the time.08:15
jhutchins!easysources | Assid08:15
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ubotuAssid: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:15
stdinheh, it worked :)08:15
Assidim getting md5sum mismatch08:16
jhutchins!fixres | jrwr08:16
ubotujrwr: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:16
jhutchinsAssid: Bad sum, or key mismatch?08:16
jhutchinsAssid: apt-get clean then try again.08:16
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stdinjhutchins: "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch" < I get it too08:17
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:17
Assidokay lemme use easysources08:17
jhutchinsSounds like it's time to hit a different mirror.08:17
stdinAssid: just disable the deb-src lines for now08:17
Assidyeah..  in.archive works08:17
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aguitelhello everybody08:19
drbeamsllarsson, my mother who is 67 years old does not even know what windows  xp looks like08:19
drbeamsshe's been on linux for as long as i can remember08:19
aguitelwhere is sessions in kubunttu ?08:19
geniidrbeams: Now thats pretty cool :)08:19
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jhutchinsI have a friend who's 94(?) living in a small farm town in iowa.  She started a blog this year to discuss the hypertext family history/illustrated genealogy she's working on.08:20
titanix88drbeams mother must be linus' wife08:20
llarssondrbeams ubuntu and kubuntu need a lot of maintainance which isnt always simple for a newbie, things breaks and doesnt work nativly08:20
jhutchinsaguitel: What about sessions? What do you want to do?08:20
drbeamsheh, not really.  most home "users" do internet, some photo management, e-mail, and a word document08:20
Assidstdin: you dont use upstream beryl?08:21
aguiteljhutchins ,i need to add Beryl at the sturtup08:21
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drbeamsllarsson: kubuntu has needed the least amount of maintence of any distro i know08:21
hydranthi all08:21
logixouldrbeams: what about freespire?08:21
hydrantcan you help me08:21
whizadreedrbeams: because its always being updated every moment08:21
stdinAssid: I use compiz-fusion, beryl is dead08:22
hydranti have a problem about wlan on kubuntu08:22
drbeamsand as a good son/daughter, you make sure she is doing well, because your mother can be your best advertisement :-)08:22
hydranti use asus A9RP laptop08:22
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llarssondrbeams tried windows, not secure but very simple and the updater doesnt hang yet, your hardware has higher chance of being simple to install08:22
AssidNeed to get 1332MB of archives.08:22
drbeamslogixoul: i've never seen linspire08:22
logixouldrbeams: k08:22
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jhutchinsaguitel: From what I've seen here, you need to start beryl-manager, and I'm not sure if that goes in .autostart or what.  #ubuntu-effects might know.08:22
Assid2 hrs down the drain08:22
whizadreeAssid:  whats that for08:22
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Assidwhizadree: shifting from feisty to gutsy08:23
jrwrAfter reading the provided help page, it still seems im stuck in 800x600....08:23
jhutchinsAssid: Ooh, gonna beta test for us?08:23
whizadreeis gutsy stable now08:23
Assidwhy not08:23
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ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+108:23
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jhutchinswhizadree: I think they just released the first beta snapshot.08:23
Assidofcourse.. im gonna be praying it doesnt kill me08:24
stdinjhutchins: still alpha, alpha408:24
drbeamslogixoul: i have looked at pardus however, the installer "pisi" has a set program list08:24
Assidgutsy got kde4 ?08:24
jhutchinsAh, yes, tracking several projects these days.08:24
jhutchinsAssid: Only as (potentially unstable) demo.  KDE4 is not ready yet.08:24
drbeamshi jhutchins08:24
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stdinAssid: not by default, it's in universe08:24
jhutchinsdrbeams: Hey.08:24
Assidhrmm k08:25
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Assidi wanna make my friends mac look like windows compared to this :P08:25
Assidthe guy goes on and on .. mac this. mac that08:25
titanix88assid:with compiz?08:26
jhutchinsAssid: Yeah, but YOU can actually DO something with your computer, without having to go out and spend $500 each time you try something new.08:26
jhutchinsAssid: (That is, you could if you weren't beta testing eyecandy.)08:26
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drbeamsllarsson: trust me, if a user calls about a hardware install, 1. you have the opportunity to suggest linux friendly hardware, 2. if you charge them, the cost is far below what they would have paid you to maintian thier windows distro08:27
Assidyeah.. so i told him.. my p4 3ghz is still gonna get the job done.. of some eye candy and do my development08:27
Assidtitanix88: yeah.. hopefully to shut him up08:27
jrwrWHat is the best way to scan for Harddrives and there paritions08:27
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Assidjrwr: scan ?08:28
stdinjrwr: sudo fdisk -l08:28
jhutchinsjrwr: For what do you wish to scan?08:28
Assidfdisk -l shows you the partitions08:28
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jrwrit didnt detect my drives...08:28
Assidyou could also check df -h to see the partitions as mounted08:28
jrwrthey are not08:28
titanix88assid i used it. u better wait a month or two. then a polished official release.08:28
Assidtitanix88: im already downloading08:29
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Assidi could always downgrade right ?08:29
Assidthank god for my 2mbit .. if i had to do this on a 256kbit line.. i might as well wake up next month08:30
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.08:30
stdinso no08:30
Assidtitanix88: stdin says its pretty stable..08:30
Assidno ?08:30
titanix88assid:it worked fine except i didn't have any window decoration(btw it thought me use of alt key:)08:30
stdincompiz-kde provides decorations08:31
Assidtitanix88: no window decoration?08:31
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jrwrIve read the wiki page about how to fix my X res, but none of those worked, and im stuck in 800x600, my xorg.log says somthing about No Vaild Modes, im using nvidia drivers08:31
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arundoes gutsy support real transparency?08:32
jhutchinsjrwr: Monitor?08:32
titanix88assid and stdin :probably my old nv mx 4000 's fault.08:32
Assidhrmm prolly08:32
jrwrjhutchins: it supports up to 1128x102408:32
titanix88or nvidia driver(cause it worked fine in dapper with old driver)08:34
drbeams /join kde08:34
titanix88arun: it does08:35
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aruntitanix88: excellent.. i dont particularly like the pseudo transparency..08:36
titanix88stdin:btw i installed both compiz-kde and compiz-gnome08:37
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darkstar61titanix88: i'm trying to install nvidia-glx in gutsy for my gf2 mx400 but it doesn't work (gimme the nvidia.ko not found error) do you use the nvidia-glx or the nvidia installer?08:37
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stdintitanix88: they just provide the {kde,gnome}-window-decorator apps08:37
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titanix88arun:u mean gnome bar like?08:38
jhutchinsjrwr: someone in #ubuntu-effects might be able to help.08:38
stdindarkstar61: gutsy help is actually in #ubuntu+108:38
aruntitanix88: pseudo transparency.. like transparent konsole window, and transparent kicker, etc.. tht's not real transparency08:38
aruni'm hoping that changes in gutsy08:39
stdindarkstar61: and make sure you have "linux-restricted-modules-generic" installed08:39
darkstar61stdin: ok... thnx08:39
titanix88darkstar61 try nvidia-glx-legacy08:39
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darkstar61titanix88: ok...08:39
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stdindarkstar61: that's only for old cards08:41
stdin!es | ToiTo08:41
ubotuToiTo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:41
titanix88why they try split the dicussion with +1 and effects?08:42
stdin+1 is for gutsy -effects is for any version08:42
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titanix88stdin i know but don't like that.08:43
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stdintough :)08:44
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titanix88it a lot better to talk to lot's of people.08:45
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darkstar61stdin: infact on the slack pc with the same card i use the nvidia installer with the 9631 and it works fine...08:45
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titanix88slack vs ubuntu like bacteria vs nuron cell08:46
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darkstar61titanix88: but works... :)08:47
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whizadreeim on the phone with dell im trying to get my ati removed for a Nvidia08:49
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titanix88legacy didn't work?08:49
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Assidwtf is #ubuntu+1 ?08:51
Assidoh thats a real channel08:51
titanix88did sudo nvidia-xconfig again?08:51
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stdinyes, it's for gutsy, the current ubuntu release +108:52
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darkstar61titanix88: no... i'll try that08:52
Assidstdin: i think im gonna stick to feisty08:52
Assidthis is pretty much a production desktop08:53
Assidkinda scared of it blowiung up08:53
darkstar61now i backed up to the nv that works just fine (but with no aiglx...)08:53
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titanix88darkstar61 why?08:54
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titanix88nvidia-xconfig does ur job.08:54
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titanix88u don't need aiglx or xgl with gusty08:55
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dromernvidia sucks ass :( I can't get twinview to work on my 6200 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52206608:55
Assidcall me chicken.. but i really would prefer a stable box08:55
dromerhowever it does work on my ancient GF208:56
darkstar61titanix88: why?08:56
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titanix88sorry in feisty.compiz works natively with x.08:57
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darkstar61titanix88: with the nv drivers?08:58
titanix88improved xserver i guess08:58
titanix88darkstar61 no.08:58
darkstar61nvidia-glx, right?08:58
titanix88with legacy please08:59
khaijeis there any way to fix corrupt fat tables from linux, fsck literally just gives up08:59
khaijei know windows can fix it fairly simply, why can't linux do this?09:00
khaijeit's odd to have such a common problem without a good solution on the linux side09:00
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diazametHow can I get Kwin to maximise to a single screen with TwinView (nVidia's version of Xinerama)?09:01
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jrwrIve read the wiki page about how to fix my X res, but none of those worked, and im stuck in 800x600, my xorg.log says somthing about No Vaild Modes, im using nvidia drivers09:04
whizadreeanyone know what this means http://pastebin.com/m2e0659e9 *sigh*09:04
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rutheniumjrwr: you are using which version of the drivers ?09:05
jrwrLatest, from the package mgr09:05
Assidstdin: you know.. im not sure who gave me this repository.. but after adding the fonts there.. amazing.. some of the fonts look soo much smoother09:06
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ruthenium9755 ?09:06
mintsouphi again.  I'm installing kubuntu with sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop and it popped up the message:   Leave the following dependencies unresolved:  koffice-data recommends openoffice.org-mimelnk.. what exactly is it asking here?09:07
Assidstdin: next time someone says something about the fonts: deb http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu feisty fonts09:08
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jrwrruthenium: guess so09:08
Assidi hope they fixed the rgb fonts or whatever it is that im getting here09:08
rutheniumtry installing openoffice.org-mimelnk first09:08
rutheniumoki because I tried the last version, beta I think, and I had the same problem as you09:09
rutheniumbut if you are using the one from the repo then I don't know09:09
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titanix88jrwr if u r using feisty try from nvidia-settings09:10
jrwronly detects 800x60009:10
Assidjrwr: whats wrong?09:10
Assidhrmm wait09:11
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uwe2hello together09:11
Assidchange your vertical and horizontal refresh.. and then also set 1024x768 by hand09:11
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vzduchAssid: s/change/set/ .. by default there are no values at all09:12
jrwrassid, im stuck in 800x60009:12
cameron_how do I install .deb programs?09:12
vzduchcameron_: ouch09:12
titanix88jrwr do it manually in nvidia set.09:12
AssidHorizSync       84.0 - 86.009:12
Assid    VertRefresh     48.0 - 120.009:12
vzduchcameron_: what do you want to install?09:12
jrwrtitanix88: : it wont allow me09:12
cameron_I'm an Ub0r extreme n00b on linux09:12
Assidset that in the monitor section jrwr09:12
cameron_nothing that's in the repositories...09:13
Assidand then try again09:13
jrwrthey are set already09:13
vzduchcameron_: install frostwire, it's just as good09:13
cameron_ya ya ya, there both equal though09:13
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vzduchand available from the Automatix repo.. which is NOT to say that you should install Automatix, just use the repo09:14
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owner_how do i add a link to Trash to the desktop?09:14
cameron_plus Limewire supports torrent, not that I'll be using it for that though, I'll use Azurous09:14
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vzduchFrostWire does that too09:14
titanix88owner_ kde or gnome?09:14
vzduchto my knowledge there is nothing that LimeWire can that FrostWire can't09:15
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Assidjrwr: thats set?09:15
jrwrAssid: yes my refresh rates are set09:15
owner_is Trash an app and i link to it that way?09:15
cameron_titanix88: the best way I found is just to try them out, gnome is small and nice, but so is kde, it's just on personal preferences09:15
owner_Dragging and dropping was unsucessful09:15
cameron_I'll just use Frostwire then09:15
Assidjrwr: and what happens when you edit xorg.conf to use 1024x768 by hand09:15
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Assidremove the other modes09:16
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jrwrAssid: my xorg.log is saying No Vaild Modes09:16
cameron_u have an ati or nvidia card?09:17
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cameron_u should be able to download drivers either from the website, or from the repositories09:17
Assidthats the same card i have09:17
Assidare you using nvidia-glx-new ?09:17
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cameron_how do I install .deb packages?, unless you know of a repositorie for Winrar XD09:18
Assidand your driver is set to nvidia ?09:18
cameron_Does anyone know the repo for Frostwire?09:18
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vzduchcameron_: I guess you won't find a Linux pkg for WinRAR.. why do you think it's called _Win_RAR? ;)09:18
cameron_ya, I know, lol, BUT, they still offer it for download under linux, I geuss it would then be called linrar09:19
vzduchcameron_: deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main09:19
Novellcameron_: dpkg -i package.deb09:19
Level15b/c it runs in Winux :P09:19
pekujahow about unrar?09:19
vzduchhow about rar?09:20
cameron_wait, I went to the website, and it's only command line :(09:20
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vzduchof course it is09:20
Level15cameron_: u can install it, use ark as a gui to it09:20
cameron_:( sniff, For frostwire would I add http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/ ass a repo?09:21
Level15though there are better alternatives to rar09:21
_titanix88owner_ solved?09:21
vzduchcameron_: indeed09:21
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vzduchthen sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install frostwire09:21
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cameron_like what/??? 7zip?09:21
Level15cameron_: yes09:21
owner_Trash is not a application09:22
cameron_I've had the best speed/compression rartio, 30% with dvd's, with winrar09:22
owner_it is technically a location on the hard drive09:22
_titanix88owner_ kcontrolcenter-desktop-icons09:22
cameron_how would I use ARK to add a gui to rar?09:22
stdinAssid: heh, ok09:23
stdincameron_: install "unrar", that's it09:23
Level15cameron_: AFAIK, 7zip has better compression ratio than RAR09:23
cameron_I can compress with rar then 2?, and is it the same way with installing 7zip?09:23
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owner_i dont have kcontrolcenter, only system settings and the icons tab under dektop gives me no options to add things09:25
mintsoupgtk apps can run in kde right?09:25
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owner_never mind09:25
vzduchof course they can09:25
owner_i found it09:25
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stdincameron_: yeah09:26
Level15cameron_: you can install both unrar and 7zip, and use ARK as a GUI for both of them i you don't want to use them from the command line09:26
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cameron_kk, do they appear automatically in ARK?09:26
_titanix88owner_ u r on the right track. just tick mark show trash on desktop09:26
stdincameron_: yep09:26
owner_no option for trash : (09:27
cameron_I can't open Adept now, antoher process is using it, yet it's not open :(09:27
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:27
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cameron_yay ^_^, that worked, thanks09:28
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owner_oh well guess trash can stay on the panel instead of desktop09:28
_titanix88owner_ pretty sure there is.search different tabs.09:29
stdinowner_: just create a link to location on the desktop and put "trash:/" as the location09:29
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joacim_can't seem to execute python script without giving the interpreter as first shell arg, "python test.py". script is : #! /usr/bin/python import subprocess out=subprocess.Popen(["cat", "/proc/cpuinfo"] , stdout=subprocess.PIPE).communicate()[0]  print out09:33
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sirjoshimushow would you get doom to play from 64 bit?09:33
sirjoshimusthe linux install09:33
cameron_32 bit Doom runs on 64 bit09:33
cameron_u just won't have the 64 bit advantage09:34
stdinjoacim_: remove the space after #!, it should be "#!/usr/bin/python"09:34
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stdinyou were09:34
joacim_<stdin>: nope. doesnt matter09:35
joacim_same error: bash: test.py: command not found09:35
joacim_when doing just "test.py"09:35
cameron_should I use adept or Synaptic?09:35
stdinjoacim_: heh, ./test.py09:35
Level15joacim_: chmod it +x and, if not on path, give full path09:35
stdincameron_: doesn't really matter09:35
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joacim_<Level15>already done. -rwxr-xr-x 1 joacim joacim 134 2007-08-10 21:33 test.py09:36
cameron_just asking out of personall opinion09:36
Level15joacim_: then specify full path09:36
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stdinjoacim_: like I said "./test.py"09:37
Level15is test.py in one of those directories??09:37
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Level15stdin: r u sure his script is on his current directory?09:37
joacim_<stdin> ./test.py works09:37
Level15stdin: n/m09:37
sirjoshimusi was not aware of that09:37
joacim_ah! see <Level15> My script is not in the PATH09:37
stdinLevel15: I'm physic you know :)09:38
joacim_<stdin><Level15> ok moved my test.py to /usr/bin/local and then the magic happened! :-) thanks