[12:16] <nosrednaekim> IDK.. what the channel it.
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> something like that
[12:16] <ubot3> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:16] <Tm_T> hum
[12:16] <jenny_> thanks
[12:16] <jhutchins> Dueling bots!
[12:17] <jhutchins> jenny_: I believe you need to run winesetup
[12:17] <fkm> Can they do loops? x)
[12:17] <Tm_T> no
[12:17] <jhutchins> jenny_: winecfg
[12:17] <fkm> Too bad ;)
[12:19] <jenny_> in terminal?
[12:19] <jenny_> I asked that channel but no one said anything
[12:19] <jhutchins> jenny_: I think you can run it from alt-f2
[12:19] <vbgunz> my "signal 15" issue fell from the face of the earth :/
[12:19] <jhutchins> vbgunz: It's not a signal 15 issue.
[12:20] <fester>  I have Samba and Nautilus-share. How do I make my files available to other computers?
[12:20] <jhutchins> vbgunz: That's like "Command "OFF" received".
[12:20] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Without knowing what sent the sig 15 you don't know what happened.
[12:21] <vbgunz> jhutchins: :/
[12:21] <vbgunz> very frustrating :(
[12:21] <zipper> when running "sudo apt-get update" i get this: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable). Any hints?
[12:21] <zipper> !version
[12:21] <ubot3> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:21] <Tm_T> zipper: yes, close adept
[12:21] <MaximLevitsky> I know that kdesu hangs if it is confused by sudo ( if sudo has already been run on that pty, it allows command without password, and that confuses kdesu, and btw a bug report about that was opened) Second problem arises from ~nasty~ kde daemons , especialy kdeinit and klauncher. I found that first app started with kdesu works fine and I can open other apps from it, and I can even open other root apps, but ... if I close tha
[12:21] <MaximLevitsky>  to launch anything unless I restart it with 'kdeinit' command, any ideas?
[12:21] <fester>  I have Samba and Nautilus-share. How do I make my files available on my local network?
[12:21] <zipper> Tm_T, adept not running
[12:22] <Tm_T> zipper: sure?
[12:22] <Tm_T> !adeptcrashfix | zipper
[12:22] <ubot3> zipper: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:22] <Phil^> fester: /etc/samba/smb.conf / man samba / goole
[12:22] <zipper> Tm_T, pretty. only got the notifier still running
[12:22] <zipper> thx
[12:22] <vbgunz> I don't know what logs to look at in regards to my mysteriously logging out :(
[12:23] <zipper> argh
[12:23] <zipper> that didnt fix it =/
[12:23] <jenny_> hutch i did now what
[12:23] <fester> I tried  /etc/samba/smb.conf / man samba / goole and got permission denied.
[12:23] <jenny_> when i click on junosetup.ext and click open with wine it tells me i need explorer
[12:28] <bjwebb> hi
[12:28] <bjwebb> does kubuntu have ntfs write drivers on the cd?
[12:28] <bjwebb> hello?
[12:28] <zipper> Tm_T, hmm, apparently root was running "apt-get -qq update" ?
[12:28] <Tm_T> zipper: nice
[12:28] <Tm_T> that happens in time to time
[12:28] <zipper> i see
[12:28] <Tm_T> cron
[12:28] <bjwebb> does kubuntu have ntfs write drivers on the cd?
[12:28] <zipper> i killed the process, guess that doesnt matter too much
[12:28] <fester> I have Samba and Nautilus-share. How do I make my files available on my local network?
[12:28] <Tm_T> nah, prolly not
[12:28] <jenny_> brb
[12:28] <bjwebb> ?
[12:28] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Probably going to have to look at power management settings, probably have to sit there and watch it until it happens.
[12:28] <jhutchins> !samba | fester
[12:28] <ubot3> fester: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:28] <jhutchins> fester: Second item.
[12:28] <bjwebb> can anyone help?
[12:28] <Tm_T> !patience | bjwebb
[12:28] <ubot3> bjwebb: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:28] <bjwebb> Tm_T: lol
[12:28] <Tm_T> bjwebb: also, patience is your friend (:
[12:29] <bjwebb> its just a basic thing and i thought someone would know
[12:29] <Tm_T> the fellow who knows the answer might be away currently
[12:29] <bjwebb> yeah
[12:29] <bjwebb> ill ask in #ubuntu as well
[12:29] <Tm_T> yes, someone will know, but it might take time to get answer, patience (:
[12:29] <jhutchins> bjwebb: I think the CD has ntfs read drivers.  You need ntfs-3g for write.
[12:30] <jhutchins> bjwebb: Don't know if that's on the cd or just repos.
[12:30] <jhutchins> !info ntfs-3g
[12:30] <ubot3> ntfs-3g: Third generation Linux NTFS driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060920-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB
[12:30] <Tm_T> it's not in cd, says that
[12:30] <bjwebb> hmm universe in edgy
[12:31] <jhutchins> bjwebb: Still in universe, bot's database is old.
[12:31] <jhutchins> bjwebb: We're on a backup bot.
[12:32] <bjwebb> jhutchins: okay, so any chance of getting ntfs write from live cd?
[12:33] <Tm_T> ubot3: bug 1
[12:33] <ubot3> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:33] <ubot3> Malone bug 1 in jl "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[12:34] <bjwebb> bah i know, but im not going to force my friends into using linux
[12:34] <bjwebb> actually ........
[12:34] <Tm_T> bjwebb: it wasn't for you =)
[12:34] <jhutchins> bjwebb: no, but knoppix can.
[12:35] <bjwebb> Tm_T: oh okay
[12:35] <Tm_T> bjwebb: and forcing is against the spirit of free and open source community
[12:35] <jhutchins> bjwebb: You could install ntfs-3g while booted from the cd, but you can't re-boot, it will disappear.
[12:35] <jhutchins> Time to feed horses, later all.
[12:35] <bjwebb> jhutchins: im tempted to try that
[12:35] <bjwebb> install the package that is, not feed horses
[12:37] <runlevelten> ubotu, is that you?
[12:37] <oellinux> hello
[12:38] <Tm_T> runlevelten: backup bot
[12:38] <runlevelten> is ubotu alright?
[12:38] <Tm_T> ubotu is on vacation
[12:38] <runlevelten> Oh, that's OK then.
[12:38] <oellinux> i would like to have an explanation about the way kubuntu manages characters
[12:39] <oellinux> i'm going to explain...
[12:39] <oellinux> i am using kubuntu 7.04 in italian, and i setted a certain password
[12:40] <oellinux> on suggestion of a friend with a problem, i changed my password into the char ""
[12:40] <oellinux> by typing it on the info center, it was showing 2 *
[12:40] <oellinux> how can that be possible?
[12:53] <fester> I have changed samba.cnf. Kubuntu won't let me save it to /etc/samba.
[12:56] <fester>  I have changed samba.cnf. How do I get Kubuntu to let me save it to /etc/samba?
[12:56] <greenleaf> I have what is probably a rather n00bish question.  How do I determine whether my webcam will work in Kubuntu?  I'm currently running off the CD on a notebook with a built-in webcam.
[12:57] <greenleaf> My notebook was made by MSI, but I can't recall off-hand what the webcam model is.
[01:01] <Trigger911> sup
[01:04] <Trigger911> i got a guestion im having problems getting kubuntu and xubuntu but it will start to copy the files then the caps lock and scroll lock will turn on/of in scync
[01:07] <ortiz> hola q tal
[01:07] <_ubuntu> hola
[01:07] <ortiz> como estas
[01:08] <ortiz> aoguien me podria colaborar con algo de kubuntu
[01:08] <underdog5004> when I try to man something, I get this: man: can't create a temporary filename: Permission denied
[01:08] <underdog5004> why is that?
[01:08] <ortiz> z.z.z.z.z.z.z....................
[01:09] <_ubuntu> farewell
[01:11] <ortiz> i need help
[01:11] <underdog5004> what?
[01:11] <ortiz> need help
[01:11] <ortiz> please help me
[01:12] <underdog5004> what's the problem?
[01:13] <Tm_T> !helpme | ortiz
[01:13] <ubot3> ortiz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:13] <ortiz> i nedd install the driver for the ati xpress x200
[01:14] <persen> !zix
[01:14] <ubot3> Factoid zix not found
[01:14] <persen> !winzix
[01:14] <ubot3> Factoid winzix not found
[01:14] <ortiz> alguien de habla spaol
[01:14] <ortiz> ??
[01:16] <hsn_> !qemu
[01:16] <ubot3> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:17] <yamal> !es
[01:17] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:17] <ortiz> thanks
[01:17] <ortiz> gracias
[01:17] <yamal> graag gedaan :p
[01:21] <b-real> ola a todosss
[01:21] <b-real> :)
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> that was bad spanish
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> its "hola todos"
[01:23] <b-real> jajajaja
[01:23] <george2002> b-real
[01:23] <b-real> mil personas
[01:23] <george2002> XD
[01:23] <george2002> 311 dice mi xchat
[01:23] <b-real> gene_, pero ni se si se habla espaol
[01:23] <george2002> no
[01:23] <george2002> b-real
[01:23] <b-real> gene_, sorry
[01:23] <george2002> the channel hi ingles
[01:23] <Tm_T> kids, english only
[01:23] <b-real> george2002, jajajaja
[01:24] <george2002> hello
[01:24] <b-real> george2002, xd
[01:24] <b-real> hello
[01:24] <b-real> im spanish..
[01:24] <Tm_T> !es | b-real
[01:24] <ubot3> b-real: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:24] <b-real> jajajaja
[01:24] <george2002> hello tm_t
[01:25] <b-real> Tm_T, ok thanks a lot
[01:25] <Tm_T> np
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: you are so helpful =D
[01:25] <george2002> b-real proguntale que si puede mostrar una captura del escroitorio
[01:26] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: very
[01:26] <b-real> george2002,  aki en ??
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> got everything but the escroitorio...
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> I thought it was "aqui"
[01:26] <b-real> george2002, ??
[01:27] <Tm_T> george2002: b-real really, english here
[01:27] <b-real> okok sorry man
[01:27] <george2002> hello to all, friends of kubuntu, some of you podria to show to a capture of its PC and kubuntu to see that so they have it
[01:27] <george2002> perdon b-real
[01:27] <george2002> XD
[01:27] <b-real> jajajaja
[01:27] <george2002> tengo curiosidad
[01:28] <b-real> george2002, b watter my friend
[01:28] <b-real> XDXD
[01:29] <george2002> XD
[01:29] <george2002> b-real
[01:29] <george2002> mi no entender jeje
[01:29] <george2002> XD
[01:29] <aguitel> george2002 ,eso es spanglish
[01:29] <b-real> george2002, kubuntu -es
[01:29] <Tm_T> george2002: I'm warning you
[01:30] <george2002> b-real
[01:30] <b-real> george2002, #kubunt-es
[01:30] <george2002> ok
[01:31] <george2002> bey tm_t  friends
[01:32] <Tm_T> I'm his friend now?
[01:32] <Tm_T> hah
[01:36] <ortiz> alguien q me ayude
[01:36] <Tm_T> ortiz: same to you, stick in english here
[01:41] <Jmanfoo> can someone tell me if beryl is a replacement for, or an addition to, KDE?
[01:41] <morador> Jmanfoo, it can be used along with KDE if you want
[01:42] <morador> it's a replacement for the window manager (kwin)
[01:42] <Jmanfoo> i guess what i want to know is, will it run \on top of\ kde
[01:43] <morador> yes, it will
[01:44] <Jmanfoo> excellent, thank you morador :)
[01:44] <saki_knin> how do i register
[01:44] <morador> welcome Jmanfoo
[01:47] <yrg> 
[01:47] <Tm_T> !register | saki_knin
[01:47] <ubot3> saki_knin: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:47] <H4xC0r> hiii
[01:47] <H4xC0r> i would you lik download rainbowcrack under ubuntu
[01:48] <saki_knin> thx
[01:48] <Tm_T> H4xC0r: and what is that?
[01:49] <H4xC0r> test pasword
[01:49] <Tm_T> er?
[01:49] <Dragnslcr> Isn't Rainbow a program that tries to find hash collisions?
[01:50] <H4xC0r> yes
[01:50] <LiquidAir> What's the kubuntu compatibility like with macbook pro rev c?
[01:50] <Tm_T> !info rainbow
[01:50] <ubot3> Package rainbow does not exist in edgy
[01:50] <Dragnslcr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_table
[01:50] <Tm_T> LiquidAir: all I know is "should work"
[01:50] <LiquidAir> Tm_T, k
[01:50] <ubuntu_> anyone know if compiz-fusion is to be included w/ kubuntu gutsy by default?
[01:51] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu_- I think so, but I'm not certain
[01:51] <ubuntu_> Dragnslcr: it is w/ ubuntu right?
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[01:51] <grendal_prime> guys im trying to get ubuntu onto an hp pavillion dv6000 it has longhorn on it and i did manage to get debian on it..but anytime i try and get an x server running on it it locks up the entire box.
[01:51] <grendal_prime> any ideas?
[01:51] <grendal_prime> it uses nvidia video card
[01:53] <saki_knin> msg nickserv link saki_knin vrbnik
[01:53] <Tm_T> aww
[01:53] <Tm_T> you shouldn't tell the password to us, pal
[01:54] <yrg> ...
[01:54] <yrg> good move, now you need to find a new password
[01:54] <Tm_T> I recommend so
[01:55] <saki_knin> jea
[01:56] <Tm_T> saki_knin: should do that in server window so similar incidents wont happen
[01:56] <saki_knin> ok
[01:57] <saki_knin> how do i change password
[01:57] <persen> Doing a cat /proc/cpuinfo says my model name is "Unknown CPU type". I know this cpu is a xp 2500 barton, but i wonder if it is any other tool that can reveal this information?
[01:58] <persen> Also the CPU runs at 502 mhz according to the info in /proc/cpuinfo
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> persen: Athlon XP?
[01:58] <persen> yes
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> try lshw
[01:59] <persen> And the mainboard does have CPU fan speed control, any app i can play with that ?
[02:00] <persen> No, lshw just reveals the same info
[02:01] <Jmanfoo> hmm okay, i ran the beryl-manager, and now my windows have no decorations at all
[02:01] <Jmanfoo> and i see where to manage the themes, but how to apply them?
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: select windowmanager-> beryl
[02:02] <Jmanfoo> eh wha?!
[02:02] <fester>  I have changed samba.cnf. How do I get Kubuntu to let me save it to /etc/samba?
[02:03] <Jmanfoo> where do i select it as the window manager
[02:03] <morph_> adeptfix
[02:04] <ortiz> alguien en espaol
[02:04] <Tm_T> !es | ortiz
[02:04] <ubot3> ortiz: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: in beryl-manager
[02:05] <Jmanfoo> its already select for window manager
[02:05] <morph_> !adeptfix
[02:05] <ubot3> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:09] <Jmanfoo> already i've restarted X too, still no window decorations
[02:09] <Jmanfoo> wtf
[02:09] <fester>  I have changed samba.cnf. How do I get Kubuntu to let me save it to /etc/samba?
[02:10] <Networkgamer> can i get help with bluetooth on kubuntu?
[02:10] <Networkgamer> whenever i do hcitool scan it gives me a connection time out error
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: do you have a ATI card?
[02:15] <Jmanfoo> Nvidia card nosrednaekim
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> did you install the proprietary drivers?
[02:16] <Jmanfoo> it's using the "nvidia" driver
[02:16] <Jmanfoo> perhaps nvidia-glx is in order?
[02:16] <Networkgamer> nyone familiar with hcitool?
[02:17] <Chippy_> hey, for some reason KDE keeps stalling every now and then when I change windows... I can move my mouse, but I can't do anything for a few seconds, and it's very frustrating.  Can anyone help me out?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: where does it say "nvidia?"
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Chippy_: are you running out of memory?
[02:17] <Jmanfoo> in xorg.conf in section device
[02:18] <Jmanfoo> Identifier     "nVidia Corporation C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] "
[02:18] <Jmanfoo> Driver         "nvidia"
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> ok, thats fine then....
[02:18] <BluesKaj> evening folks :)
[02:18] <Chippy_> nosrednaekim: sure aren't.  Got like 1GB of unsued RAM at any given time
[02:18] <fester>  I have changed samba.cnf. How do I get Kate to let me save it to /etc/samba?
[02:19] <Jmanfoo> chippy what's your CPU usage
[02:19] <grendal_prime> Jmanfoo:  have a new box here i cannot get to run anything that has to do with X  not even kubuntu. Its a laptop hp pavillion dv6000 with a  wide screen
[02:19] <grendal_prime> any ideas?
[02:19] <jhutchins> Chippy_: You might check your disks.
[02:19] <Jmanfoo> haha hey grendal how did you know i had an hp?
[02:20] <Jmanfoo> grendal are you using the noapic option in grub?
[02:20] <grendal_prime> I didnt...now i do...grab ahold of your seat.
[02:20] <jhutchins> Chippy_: Run something like gkrellm and see if you can spot it.
[02:20] <grendal_prime> umm no
[02:20] <grendal_prime> will that fix it?
[02:20] <Jmanfoo> grendal when grub comes up, select the kubuntu kernel and press e
[02:21] <grendal_prime> i cant even get the disk to install.
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: ok, restart X after your last try of beryl and run these command in order: "beryl" then "beryl-manager" and then right click on the icon and "select window manager-> beryl"
[02:21] <grendal_prime> i do have a debian install on there though
[02:21] <grendal_prime> i could edit the grub it put on.
[02:21] <Jmanfoo> you mean the livecd grendal?
[02:21] <Jmanfoo> i wasn't able to get kubuntu to boot at all on my dv6208nr until i used the noapic option
[02:21] <grendal_prime> ya the live cd will only get past the ...oh wait ya that must be the grub screen then
[02:22] <grendal_prime> hold on.
[02:22] <grendal_prime> ill reboot it
[02:22] <Jmanfoo> i'm pretty sure thats what's going on
[02:22] <Jmanfoo> brb gonna restart x
[02:24] <Jmanfoo> nosrednaekim no dice
[02:24] <Jmanfoo> and it looks like the beryl command i ran in konsole crashed
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> that sequence didn't help?
[02:24] <Chippy_> jhutchins: Got it.  Ojne of my cores spiked to 100% CPU usage, but the other was down near 0 and there were no other signs
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: yeah, what was the error message?
[02:24] <grendal_prime> ok Jmanfoo i slected safe graphics mode
[02:25] <Jmanfoo> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[02:25] <Jmanfoo> that was when i did Reload Window Manager from beryl-manager
[02:25] <Jmanfoo> grendal did it boot right?
[02:26] <grendal_prime> its sped on configurenetwork interfaces
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: try running "beryl --replace"
[02:26] <grendal_prime> said something about uvcvideio vaild to query..seems jamed at this point
[02:26] <grendal_prime> so after i reboot i want to look for what?
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: or really "beryl --indirect-rendering --strict-binding --replace settings"
[02:27] <Networkgamer> who knows anything about hcitool or bluetooth?
[02:28] <Jmanfoo> nosrednaekim looks like it's hanging up like it did when i just ran beryl
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: if that latter one fails, pastebin the output, (alt+f2 then "kwin --replace" should give you your window borders back
[02:29] <BluesKaj> beryl ..what waste of good cpu loading
[02:29] <jhutchins> Jmanfoo: #ubuntu-effects is all about beryl/compiz stuff.
[02:29] <Jmanfoo> when i ran just beryl --replace, it looked like ran through because it dropped me back to the prompt, but i ran the manager and i still didnt have window decs
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: were there any errors?
[02:30] <Jmanfoo> beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[02:30] <Jmanfoo> said that 4 times
[02:30] <Jmanfoo> and its just sitting there now
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> you are running in 32 bit mode in X?
[02:30] <jhutchins> Gee, you suppose it couldn't find a framebuffer configuration for 32b color depth?
[02:30] <Jmanfoo> i'm not running at 32
[02:30] <Jmanfoo> my xorg is set to 24
[02:31] <Jmanfoo> xorg.conf*
[02:31] <Chippy_> jhutchins: Given that something was using a ton of CPU, I ran htop and replicated it; kwin takes up 100% CPU when it happens
[02:32] <jhutchins> so something cyclic about kwin...
[02:32] <grendal_prime> so Jmanfoo i got the splash screen whith the start or install kubuntu..what do i do at this point..(this does not look anything like the grub i know)
[02:32] <jhutchins> grendal_prime: Um, you're booting the live CD, what do you want to do?
[02:32] <Chippy_> jhutchins: it may be cyclic, but it only ever happens when I switch windows to give focus to another one
[02:32] <Jmanfoo> jhutchins he needs to set the noapic option
[02:32] <Jmanfoo> i dont remember how to do it on the live cd
[02:32] <jhutchins> Chippy_: You mess with beryl/compiz at all?
[02:33] <Chippy_> jhutchins: nope
[02:33] <jhutchins> grendal_prime: You need to choose "boot" or "more options"....  I think boot first.
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> grendal_prime: on the grub boot screen there should be a F-something that says "extra options" press that and enter noapic
[02:33] <jhutchins> Jmanfoo: what is it with grub, escape to edit the boot command?
[02:34] <Networkgamer> i think its del
[02:34] <Jmanfoo> i think its e
[02:34] <jhutchins> Networkgamer: That's usually for the BIOS.
[02:34] <Jmanfoo> when you're got the right boot choice highlighted hit e
[02:34] <Jmanfoo> i didnt know if it gave you that option in the livecd version of grub
[02:35] <Jmanfoo> it has that nice purty interface
[02:37] <grendal_prime> one word like that noapic ?
[02:38] <grendal_prime> after the dashes right?
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> before I think
[02:43] <Jmanfoo> alright where was the channel for beryl stuff?
[02:44] <Jmanfoo> it seems my x server will not let me use anything other than 32bit, even though i have it forced to 16
[02:44] <grendal_prime> Jmanfoo: that worked thanks man
[02:44] <Jmanfoo> grendal_prime no problem, just remember after you isntall it, edit your /boot/menu.lst to have that noapic option
[02:46] <ellipsys> Hey guys. Anyone available to assist with what may have be a dead Xorg?
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: #ubuntu-effects
[02:49] <grendal_prime> what the hell does apic do (besides fk up linux installs)
[02:50] <ellipsys> I'm not sure grendal.
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> something to do with the processor
[02:50] <czer323> Any suggestions for a temperature monitor that goes in the system tray?  Trying to monitor an i8k type thing
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Programmable_Interrupt_Controller
[02:51] <czer323> I have fan control currently working with GKrellM, but its' mighty ugly.
[02:52] <ellipsys> Czer, lemme check something.  If nobody knows here, check the k/ubuntu forums. If not, post to the HardForum.
[02:53] <Tm_T> czer323: like ksensors ?
[02:53] <Jmanfoo> grendal_prime i think apic is automatic processor interrupt controller, which HPs don't have
[02:54] <czer323> Tm_T: seems extremely promising ;)
[02:54] <czer323> Tm_T: do you know it if includes fan control?  *looking through the options too*
[02:55] <Jmanfoo> btw grendal_prime, if you need more help with kubuntu on the dv6000, you can aim me, i've got just about everything configured to work the way it did under vista
[02:55] <ellipsys> Anyone have some experience with getting X to work again? Somehow I managed to kill the damn thing trying to upgrade my synaptics.
[02:55] <Tm_T> not that I know
[02:55] <czer323> Tm_T: well this is a great start anyway ;)
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> ellipsys: yeah, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:55] <ellipsys> Now after the kubuntu loading bar, I get a black screen with blinky cursor that does nothing.
[02:56] <Jmanfoo> ellipsys what type of comp you using?
[02:56] <ellipsys> Nosrednaekim: Will that bork up my ATI settings and anything else in the xorg.conf?
[02:56] <ellipsys> Jmanfoo: Asus W3V laptop.
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> ellipsys: probably... but it's easy to get it all back.
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> once you have X
[02:57] <ellipsys> I was following the ubuntu wiki on adding Synaptics touchpad support, after I downloaded Ksynaptic
[02:58] <ubuntu_> someone out there ???????????
[02:58] <ellipsys> Okay nos: trying it now.
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu_: we're talking !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:58] <Jmanfoo> aheh, no one seems to be alive in #ubuntu_effects
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> (hint, don't use that many question marks and you'll probably get better results)
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> one is plenty
[02:59] <nicon_> Hello
[02:59] <intelikey> how many  ?????????????????????????????????????????
[02:59] <intelikey> :)
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: that was actually close
[02:59] <nicon_> When i was here last time some1 did gave me an adress to good audiodrivers for gigabyte audio
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe gigabyte's site?
[02:59] <nicon_> Can smb gave me this address onceagain?
[02:59] <intelikey> heh
[02:59] <nicon_> Daisuke_Ido: nope, it was english ubuntu site
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> though to my knowledge GB uses a standard realtek chipset.
[03:00] <nicon_> Daisuke_Ido: yep
[03:00] <nicon_> it was english ubuntu site with apt-get cmd
[03:00] <intelikey> !sound
[03:00] <ubot3> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:00] <Daisuke_Ido> well that narrows it down to, let me see...  carry the one...  subtract three...  ALL of them
[03:00] <ubuntu_> ground zero is better just set to .22
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> what are you talking about?
[03:01] <nicon_> It's not same page
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> nicon_: then i recommend google.
[03:02] <Daisuke_Ido> if you know what you're looking for, it's quite useful
[03:02] <nicon_> Daisuke_Ido: last time i did search all tired day
[03:02] <nicon_> And nothing find
[03:02] <monteslu> anyone having trouble running an apt-get update on 7.04 right now?
[03:02] <nicon_> Only on this channel some1 did help me
[03:02] <nicon_> monteslu: nope
[03:02] <Jmanfoo> monteslu whats happening?
[03:02] <intelikey> .22 is too small   anything less than 7mm is a waste of powder
[03:03] <Phoenix92x> hi, I'm running feisty with an nvidia 7950 graphics card and a dell 2407wfp monitor and I'm having trouble getting it to run at 1920x1200, its maximum resolution. It only runs at 1680x1050. I go to administrator mode in display settings and change it to 1920x1200 and it says it cannot safely test the configuration and to restart x. I restart x and log back in and lo and behold, its at 1680x1050 again. Could someone help me resolve this or, if
[03:03] <Phoenix92x> neccessary, help me reinstall the nviida driver install in case I somehow botched that? All I did for that was sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new followed by sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:03] <nicon_> Daisuke_Ido: or maybe U know how is possible to audio driver broke after lot of x-restart?
[03:03] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[03:03] <nicon_> I can c that:
[03:03] <nicon_> http://niconcomputer.one.pl/12.jpg
[03:03] <Daisuke_Ido> what?
[03:04] <intelikey> monteslu i'm updating dapper right now.   they are the same servers so i doubt that it's the servers.
[03:04] <nicon_> Look at this page
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> that didn't make any sense.
[03:04] <monteslu> Jmanfoo, it's barfing on a package list
[03:04] <nicon_> Daisuke_Ido: i know ;/
[03:04] <nicon_> Dunno why it dont work
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> no idea
[03:05] <nicon_> Daisuke_Ido: last problem was graphic:
[03:05] <nicon_> http://niconcomputer.one.pl/11.jpg
[03:05] <monteslu> there a way to clear out cach with apt-get ?
[03:05] <nicon_> After installing new icons, styles, etc
[03:05] <monteslu> s/cach/cache
[03:05] <nicon_> Like U can c
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> monteslu: which server are you using?
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> monteslu: because mine just wacked out too!
[03:05] <monteslu> just defaults for edubuntu
[03:05] <nicon_> And then after reconfigure xorg, and lots of x-restart i got this problem
[03:05] <monteslu> nosrednaekim, bad zip ?
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> trying a new morror
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> *mirror
[03:06] <intelikey> heh  "look at this _page_  http://niconcomputer.one.pl/11.jpg"   <<< not a page.  a picture.  but yeah man.
[03:06] <nicon_> intelikey: never mind q;
[03:06] <monteslu> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted is bad
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> monteslu: since when?
[03:06] <nicon_> Now i want reinstall system
[03:07] <nicon_> But first i want to have that apt-get cmd
[03:07] <monteslu> Daisuke_Ido, no idea, it's just crapping out on me now
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[03:07] <nicon_> To don't have any problems with sound card again
[03:07] <monteslu> apt-get is complaining that its not in zip format
[03:07] <monteslu> Daisuke_Ido, can you try an apt-get update ?
[03:07] <nicon_> so, can smb help me?
[03:07] <Jmanfoo> is there a command that spits out my current color depth in x?
[03:08] <intelikey> monteslu you can change the /us.  to /nl.   and retry
[03:08] <monteslu> how?
[03:09] <Phoenix92x> Ive been working on the nvidia problem mentioned above for a while now...doing that sort of thing has always been a weakness, could someone please help me with it?
[03:09] <intelikey> Jmanfoo xvinfo   ?
[03:09] <Networkgamer> anyone familiar with hcitool?
[03:09] <Networkgamer> or bluetooth
[03:09] <intelikey> monteslu in the /etc/apt/sources.list   where all that info is stored.
[03:09] <nicon_> !audio
[03:09] <ubot3> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:10] <Phoenix92x> !nvidia
[03:10] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:10] <intelikey> monteslu kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:10] <Jmanfoo> intelikey that did it thnx :)
[03:10] <monteslu> intelikey, ok. I'll try that
[03:11] <intelikey> Networkgamer is your nick factual ?
[03:12] <nicon_> ...
[03:12] <nicon_> nobody can help me? xD
[03:12] <underdog5004> nicon_, what's the problem?
[03:12] <nicon_> underdog5004: i need page in style of help.ubuntu.com
[03:12] <Tm_T> intelikey:
[03:12] <tank71> anyone have any recomendations for buying a harddrive?
[03:12] <nicon_> It's one of this help...
[03:12] <nicon_> Where i can find...
[03:13] <underdog5004> nicon_, what do you mean?
[03:13] <nicon_> All apt-get install blablabla cmd...
[03:13] <nicon_> To install good audiodrivers
[03:13] <nicon_> Last time some1 here did gave me that address
[03:13] <nicon_> Now cant find it
[03:13] <tank71> do you keep logs?
[03:13] <intelikey> Networkgamer (or anyone)  what game is like freeciv   in that it's turn based stratagy   but uses hex grid  modern warfare    ?    i can't find the name of it.   i saw it one time and liked it but forgot what it's called.   any clue ?
[03:13] <nicon_> tank71: dunno
[03:13] <nicon_> i dont think so
[03:13] <underdog5004> nicon_, I have no idea...try google
[03:13] <Networkgamer> intelikey:technically yeah,its factual
[03:14] <nicon_> underdog5004: i did try google
[03:14] <nicon_> 1 all day
[03:14] <Networkgamer> intelikey:i dont game almost at all on pc
[03:14] <nicon_> tank71: in konversation i can find logs?
[03:14] <intelikey> tank71 cheep you wont keep it long anyway.
[03:14] <Networkgamer> but i need help with hcitool
[03:15] <intelikey> Networkgamer ah ok.
[03:15] <Networkgamer> whenever i do hcitool scan it gives me a conenction timed out error
[03:15] <Networkgamer> its on ubuntu on a ps3
[03:15] <monteslu> intelikey, Networkgamer, tried 4 mirrors... finally found one at some .edu...
[03:15] <monteslu> bad stuff out there right now
[03:15] <Tm_T> intelikey: http://linetap.com/www/drg/SPCamo.htm
[03:15] <monteslu> but I'm good for now
[03:16] <intelikey> but i don't know what  hcitool is...  so that leaves me out
[03:16] <Networkgamer> hcitool is what you use for bluetooth
[03:16] <Networkgamer> cc connects an address
[03:16] <Networkgamer> scan scans for address's
[03:16] <Networkgamer> etc...
[03:16] <intelikey> monteslu hmmm odd.   the us. are working for me  *dapper*
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> monteslu: I went to canada and got one :)
[03:16] <cellfrog> hi
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> hmm or not... montesluwhat mirror are you using?
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> monteslu: ^^
[03:18] <monteslu> columbia.edu
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> ok
[03:18] <monteslu> brb
[03:19] <nicon_> Hm, maybe some1 know where can I find all cmd logs?
[03:19] <nicon_> Of root?
[03:19] <intelikey> Tm_T ever try the program "SABallistics" (small arms ballistics calculator) ?
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> ok., that seems to be workin!
[03:19] <fester>  I have changed samba.cnf. How do I get Kate to let me save it to /etc/samba?
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> file->save as?
[03:21] <intelikey> nicon_ sudo less /root/.bash_history ;less ~/.bash_history
[03:21] <fester> Samba seems to be in a protected folder. I can't write to it.
[03:21] <nicon_> I think i did find it xD
[03:22] <nicon_> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[03:22] <nicon_> Where is the page about that?
[03:22] <nicon_> <;
[03:22] <nicon_> With that cmd?
[03:22] <intelikey> nicon_ also worth pointing out   ls /etc/log/     and look for su or sudo logs
[03:22] <ellipsys> I don't need both Guarddog and Firestarter, do I?
[03:22] <nicon_> It is that cmd
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> fester: did you run kate as "kdesu kate"?
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> because you need root priveledges
[03:22] <Crell> Hi all.  I'm trying to install Kubuntu Feisty on a Thinkpad T61.  The CD boots fine and I get the boot menu, but when I tell it to actually boot it fails when trying to mount /dev/sda1.
[03:22] <Tm_T> intelikey: na
[03:23] <Crell> The CD itself loads fine on my desktop, so I presume it's not corrupted.
[03:23] <fester> No, I ran Kate from the desktop.
[03:23] <Crell> Any idea what the issue could be?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> ellipsys: no
[03:23] <nicon_> Yes!
[03:23] <nicon_> I did find it
[03:23] <nicon_> xDDD
[03:23] <nicon_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> ellipsys: got your xorg all sorted out?
[03:23] <nicon_> That's what i need xD
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> Crell: is the t61 a Santa Rosa?
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> chipset?
[03:23] <ellipsys> Nosrednaekim: Still have to test 3d settings, but I at least have X back visible.
[03:24] <intelikey> ellipsys you don't "need" either.   both are only frontends to iptables
[03:24] <ellipsys> Thanks
[03:24] <Crell> Er, the T7500 line chipset.  I'm not sure of the codename.
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> Crell: (i.e. was it made in the past 3 months)?
[03:24] <Crell> Yes, it's their new line.
[03:24] <ellipsys> I may need some help with that though to get everything working again.
[03:24] <saki_knin> how do I change the password
[03:24] <nicon_> saki_knin: for user?
[03:24] <saki_knin> on irc
[03:24] <nicon_> or for su?
[03:25] <nicon_> oh...
[03:25] <saki_knin> me
[03:25] <nicon_> ./msg nickserv sth blabla q;
[03:25] <ubuntu_> hi all, just testing tribe 4
[03:25] <saki_knin> nicon_:
[03:25] <fester> nosrednaekim: I tried running kdesu kate and got "cannot connect to X server.
[03:25] <nicon_> Dun remember q;
[03:25] <intelikey> saki_knin passwd
[03:25] <Crell> nosrednaekim: Is there an issue with Feisty and that chipset?  Someone else I talked to mentioned SATA issues.
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> Crell: hmm ok. I've heard things about that chipset's disk drivers
[03:26] <Crell> hm,
[03:26] <saki_knin> ./msg nickserv sth blabla q;
[03:26] <nicon_> saki_knin: ...
[03:26] <nicon_> |:
[03:26] <nicon_> saki_knin: dun remember this cmd
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> Crell: sata issues maybe, but most likely chipset issues
[03:26] <nicon_> it's first
[03:26] <nicon_> second: without 'dot' q;
[03:26] <Crell> Swell.
[03:26] <intelikey> saki_knin wait irc password   /msg nickserv help password
[03:27] <fester> nosrednaekim: I actually have two Linux boxes with the same problem. I don't think it's the chipset.
[03:27] <Crell> So how do I get that chipset to mount the CD properly?
[03:27] <Crell> fester: How'd you fix it?
[03:27] <saki_knin> :27]  [Notice]  -NickServ- No help available on password
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> Crell: lemme see if there is a fix or something.
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> Crell: maybe you will have to use Gutsy.
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> fester: really?
[03:27] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help
[03:27] <Crell> Fun fun.  Is Gutsy at all stable yet?
[03:28] <elite101> is solaris any good? im getting the DVD tomarrow?
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> Crell: then again, that one ubuntu dell has a santa rosa chipset.
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> so maybe its not that
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> not really :)
[03:28] <fester> nosredneakim: Yep. Crell: It isn't fixed on either machine yet.
[03:29] <xbac> help?
[03:29] <Crell> Delightful.
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> elite101: not for dektop use really... can't hold a candle to ubuntu for that
[03:29] <elite101> ic so its more for like: clusters/programmers? not really something a 14yr would use?
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> Crell: so whats the problem exactly?
[03:30] <Crell> nosrednaekim: I put in the CD and boot to it.  Select "start or install Kubuntu".
[03:30] <intelikey> Tm_T the game i was asking about is in the repos i'm pretty sure   but i have searched for key word "game"  and the list is long   nothing caught my eye...
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> it says it can'tmount the drive?
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> elite101: precisely, mostly for corporate devs
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> for now..... its improving i've heard
[03:30] <Crell> It does the usual loading kernel bit and thinks for a while.
[03:30] <Tm_T> intelikey: wesnoth?
[03:31] <Crell> Then dumps me to a busybox prompt in initramfs with a message "can't access tty: job control turned off".
[03:31] <fester> Has anybody heard anything about CIFS as a replacement for Samba?
[03:31] <intelikey> heh   no.
[03:31] <Crell> An ls shows a root filesystem, and a file called casper.log.
[03:32] <BluesKaj> in gutsy as an option , i think
[03:32] <Networkgamer> anybpdy familiar with hcitool?
[03:32] <intelikey> i though maybe   ASC    but after installing and running it.  that's not it.
[03:32] <Crell> casper.log states that /dev/sda can't be opened because of "no such file", twice, followed by a long series of failing to mount /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 to /cdrom.
[03:32] <xbac> i was trying to install a new nvidia card and i did the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org but it says xserver is not installed?
[03:32] <intelikey> !info hcitool
[03:32] <ubot3> Package hcitool does not exist in edgy
[03:33] <Networkgamer> its not a problem with hcitool specifically
[03:33] <Networkgamer> i think its more hardware
[03:33] <Networkgamer> i get a connection timed out error
[03:33] <Networkgamer> when i do hcitool scan
[03:35] <nicon_> g2g
[03:35] <nicon_> bb all
[03:35] <intelikey> makes absolutely no sense.  but i setup a linux gateway and up'd my network preformance by 50%  on dialup connection.....
[03:35] <Crell> nosrednaekim: fester: Does that ring a bell for either of you? :-)
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> Crell: hmm.
[03:36] <Crell> I get the same if I select the option to check the CD itself.
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> nope, never seen it do that
[03:36] <Crell> Excellent.
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> Crell: did you google your laptop model name and "ubuntu"?
[03:37] <Crell> Not yet.  Sec.
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> or search through linux-laptops.com?
[03:37] <Crell> I looked it up on ThinkWiki.org before buying.
[03:37] <Crell> It seemed to be a safe bet from what I found there.
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> ALWAYS google first
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> and they said it was fine?
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> hmm... have you tryed any other distros?
[03:39] <Crell> No.
[03:39] <Crell> Well huh.
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> like suse?
[03:40] <Crell> I've never used SuSE.
[03:40] <Crell> One sec.
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> well, if you can't find anything on the internet about problems with the laptop and linux, start trying out other distros..
[03:41] <intelikey> mandriva suse fedora slackware debian gentoo ubuntu knoppix ...
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> esp. Knoppix
[03:42] <BluesKaj> redhat!
[03:42] <intelikey> of that list i haven't used suse or gentoo, but that is the "major" players i think.
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> CentOS!
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> PClinuxOS
[03:43] <intelikey> BluesKaj redhat is no longer free   but fedora is redhat.free  so  yeah
[03:43] <BluesKaj> never tried gentoo...ppl scared me off
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: never used gentoo? I would think that that was the distro tailor made for your eccentric CLI habits
[03:43] <Crell> Hm.  Switching SATA into Compatibility Mode (whatever that is) made it boot.
[03:43] <intelikey> nosrednaekim probably is.   but dialup precludes it
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> AH!
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> compatibility with IDE
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: oh yeah...my poor brother and his gentoo on dial up :)
[03:44] <Crell> Ah.  Instead of ACHI, which is whatever the new-fangled thing is?
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> something like that
[03:44] <Crell> Wow that's crisp.
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: actually its faster if you can get all the base packages since you can update simply using diffs between versions of packages :)
[03:45] <intelikey> nosrednaekim faster than having the cd shipped in ?   i trow not
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> hmm.. I guess thats a problem...
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> see, our dad can DL big stuff like that at work.. so thats how we get by.
[03:47] <intelikey> nosrednaekim one other factor you may have not calculated in.  i don't want/need/like  all the latest    give me stable and for now ubuntu LTS seems to fill that bill ok.
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> Crell: so, its all woking now?
[03:47] <TooEarly> i'm using the program Devede and everytime i try to encode a dvd to a higher bitrate or any bitrate.. it outputs to the same file size which is around 2.9gigs anyone know what the problem is
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: right.
[03:47] <Crell> nosrednaekim: Trying to get network working now, then I install./
[03:47] <mneptok> TooEarly: what kind of filesystem are you saving on?
[03:47] <Crell> I still have to decide if I'm going to wipe the restore partition on the disk or not. :-)
[03:48] <TooEarly> NTFS
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> Crell: I didn't..
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> its only a couple gigs right? like 5?
[03:48] <mneptok> TooEarly: does the Linuk NTFS driver have a maximum file size limitation?
[03:48] <Crell> Haven't checked yet.
[03:48] <TooEarly> i'm not sure
[03:48] <Crell> This is its first successful boot.  This computer has never booted Windows, nor will it. :-)
[03:49] <mneptok> TooEarly: exactly ;)
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> for XP its like 6 ( on my computer)
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> Crell: try denying the EULA!
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> and fight it in court
[03:49] <TooEarly> mneptok: so you think that's the problem then?
[03:49] <intelikey> nosrednaekim and yeah depending on someone else to get the iso was how i got hedhat mandrake and slackware...   but i hate to seem like "the fellow with his hand out" to my friends...   know what i mean?
[03:49] <Crell> hehe.  Unfortunately it doesn't come with CDs, so I can't do the refund. :-)
[03:49] <mneptok> TooEarly: try saving to ext3, just to be sure.
[03:49] <TooEarly> kk will do
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> Crell: on the contrary...you don't need to. have the CDs
[03:50] <Jmanfoo> alright i have looked and looked, is there a kde version of gnome-snapshot for the command line?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> Crell: just take shot of you denying the liscence. And since Lenovo is about to start shipping suse notbooks, they really can't say the computer is worthles without the OS and grabage like that
[03:51] <mneptok> nosrednaekim: Lenovo isn't shipping their laptops with SuSE.
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: ksnapshot?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> wait.. for the CLI?
[03:51] <sparr> localepurge just deleted over 100MB worth of locale data that i didn't want...  thats both amazing and disturbing.  does ubuntu have any system to legitimately manage locale data?  its silly to waste that much disk space on files that I will never use.
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> mneptok: they just announced it!
[03:51] <intelikey> Jmanfoo is that an oxymoron ?    "kde version of gnome-snapshot for the command line" ????
[03:52] <mneptok> nosrednaekim: they announced a *single* model of IBM Thinkpad will have a SuSE option.
[03:52] <intelikey> heh  "kde version * for the command line" ?
[03:52] <mneptok> (i.e. not their hardware)
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> mneptok: w/e it doesn't matter, point is they can't deny that erasing vista makes the laptop unusable
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> they make all the IBM thinkpads.
[03:53] <intelikey> sparr localpurge
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> unless they are selling refurbished ones.. ;)
[03:53] <sparr> intelikey: localepurge
[03:54] <intelikey> does ubuntu have any system to legitimately manage locale data? <<< localpurge
[03:54] <intelikey> oh with an e you say ?
[03:54] <intelikey> ok
[03:55] <Networkgamer> anyone have the mirrors for ubuntu install iso's handy?
[03:55] <intelikey> Networkgamer did you look on the buuntu.com page ?
[03:56] <sparr> intelikey: localepurge is not legitimate, it deletes package-managed files without notifying the package manager
[03:56] <NickPresta> sparr, I thought it deleted local files on your system that weren't specific to your locale
[03:56] <sparr> NickPresta: it does.  files that are owned by other packages
[03:57] <sparr> NickPresta: Debian Policy, from whence ubuntu sprung, says thats a no-no
[03:57] <intelikey> sparr most locales are owned by other packages    duh
[03:57] <xbac> could anyone point me in the direction of installing a new video card?
[03:57] <NickPresta> sparr, I just read it's man page. I understand.
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> xbac: installing physically, or the software for it?
[03:58] <sparr> intelikey: yes.  hence the question.  is there a "right" way to fix this problem?  or is localepurge's hacky approach the best option?
[03:58] <xbac> software
[03:58] <xbac> i guess
[03:58] <intelikey> sparr  right is what ever works for you.
[03:58] <Networkgamer> what im looking for is a ps3 install iso for ubuntu 6.04
[03:58] <sparr> intelikey: assume, for the sake of argument, that localepurge doesn't "work", because it breaks other packages
[03:58] <xbac> i tried to do the -reconfigure xserver-org and it says that its not installed on the system
[03:59] <intelikey> what did it break ?
[03:59] <Jmanfoo> what is the "super" key?
[03:59] <xbac> i have an onboard and im trying to switch to an nvidia
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: ussually the windows key
[03:59] <NickPresta> Jmanfoo, usually the Windows key
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: got beryl working?
[03:59] <Jmanfoo> i sure did :-D
[03:59] <Jmanfoo> hmm i have the win key bound to the kmenu
[04:00] <sparr> Jmanfoo: usualy the windows Key
[04:00] <Jmanfoo> that will probably screw it up
[04:00] <intelikey> sparr what did it break ?
[04:00] <sparr> intelikey: it breaks every package that it touches
[04:00] <sparr> intelikey: heaven help me if I ever DO decide to switch to a chinese locale
[04:00] <Jmanfoo> i'm VERY much impressed with beryl though
[04:00] <BluesKaj> nite all
[04:01] <intelikey> sparr   so    apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install  $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)                                                                                   and every package is disbrokened then...
[04:01] <NickPresta> sparr, assume that I would never switch to another locale, what are the foreseeable problems?
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> Jmanfoo: pretty sweet eh?
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> night all!
[04:02] <intelikey> Your current time zone is set to /dev/null
[04:02] <Jmanfoo> very very nice
[04:02] <intelikey> heh
[04:03] <Networkgamer> well i g2g too
[04:03] <Guvner> anybody in here use firefox to work with the "Log me in" program ?
[04:03] <Networkgamer> cya
[04:03] <intelikey> back in a few.    food.
[04:06] <xbac> so if i want to install this new video card just throw it in and wait through the frozen ubuntu startup logo?
[04:06] <sparr> NickPresta: apparently, and this is from experience, some programs will 'fall back' to a locale they provide if they don't provide the one you want
[04:07] <sparr> NickPresta: case in point...  ive got a program with no locale data, it SEEMS that it only provides en_GB, which i purged
[04:07] <sparr> NickPresta: i was only keeping en and en_US
[04:07] <sparr> NickPresta: now, technically, the package is buggy because it should provide en (no suffix) if its only going to provide one of them...  but thats nitpicking
[04:09] <yurimxpxman> how can I setup postfix to use smtp.gmail.com ?
[04:11] <underdog5004> hey squaretro, did you get that figured out?
[04:11] <underdog5004> it was an xorg.conf problem, right?
[04:12] <squaretro> no
[04:12] <squaretro> couldnt find it
[04:12] <underdog5004> hmmm, bummer
[04:12] <underdog5004> so...what are you doing now?
[04:13] <ZeroTolerance> Someone help me with logitech usb headset?
[04:13] <squaretro> i went to change video cards then loaded in recovery mode and did the reconfigure xserver-org and it says its not installed
[04:13] <squaretro> im searching the forums
[04:13] <squaretro> and google
[04:13] <ZeroTolerance> I connected it to kunbuntu, it detects it but no sound comes out when i play something.
[04:13] <squaretro> but nothing
[04:13] <underdog5004> you did sudo dpkg --configure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[04:14] <squaretro> yes
[04:14] <underdog5004> ZeroTolerance, you need to go into system settings > sound and tell it that the usb headset is your default sound device.
[04:14] <squaretro> xseerver-org is not installed on the system it says?
[04:14] <underdog5004> squaretro, seriously?
[04:14] <squaretro> yes
[04:14] <underdog5004> that's pretty serious...
[04:14] <squaretro> it makes no sense
[04:14] <underdog5004> try this
[04:14] <underdog5004> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:16] <Level15> !desktop effects
[04:16] <ubot3> Factoid desktop effects not found
[04:16] <Level15> wtf?
[04:16] <Level15> what happened to ubotu?
[04:16] <Tm_T> on vacation
[04:16] <Level15> lol
[04:16] <Tm_T> !compiz
[04:16] <ubot3> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:17] <squaretro> k restarting
[04:21] <ZeroTolerance> underdog5004 I went there but only have 2 tabs hardware and general. Doesn't say anything about designating the headset priority.
[04:21] <underdog5004> ZeroTolerance, h/o
[04:22] <ZeroTolerance> Im in SoundSystem - System Settings.
[04:23] <underdog5004> ZeroTolerance, you can tell it to Override device location
[04:23] <underdog5004> check that and give it the device name of the headset
[04:23] <underdog5004> might be something like /dev/dsp or dsp0 or dsp1
[04:28] <elite101> hey what is the command line for java JRE6?
[04:29] <elite101> anyone know it?
[04:29] <elite101> yes no?
[04:29] <ZeroTolerance> underdog5004 am I going to have to restart at all?
[04:29] <intelikey> !java
[04:29] <ubot3> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:29] <intelikey> elite101 idk.
[04:30] <elite101> err i need the konsole command because adept wont let me select <ok>
[04:30] <elite101> its like sudo apt get-install java-jre-6 or something
[04:31] <intelikey> elite101 if the package is in the repos     sudo apt-get install "it"
[04:31] <elite101> well it is but i dont know what the command line is?
[04:31] <intelikey> elite101 apt-cache search java
[04:32] <intelikey> daz what the search feature is foo
[04:32] <intelikey> fo
[04:32] <intelikey> foh
[04:32] <intelikey> foe  ?    what   ever
[04:34] <elite101> search feature?
[04:34] <elite101> in adept?
[04:34] <elite101> lol java agreement wont work in adpet it doesnt let u select <ok>
[04:34] <elite101> adept*
[04:35] <underdog5004> ZeroTolerance, I have no idea...
[04:35] <underdog5004> sorry
[04:35] <elite101> !java
[04:35] <ubot3> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:36] <intelikey> elite101 no not in adept   in apt   and you are not reading my responces to your querry
 elite101 apt-cache search java
[04:37] <mneptok> elite101: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
 elite101 if the package is in the repos     sudo apt-get install "it"
[04:37] <elite101> yeah but there is a command line for it
[04:37] <mneptok> elite101: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[04:37] <elite101> forget it
[04:37] <inaety> hello i am trying to install kubuntu 704 but it is trying to download my package lists and well i have no internet connected..
[04:37] <intelikey> elite101: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[04:37] <intelikey> elite101: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[04:37] <intelikey> elite101: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[04:37] <intelikey> ok forgotten
[04:38] <elite101> thats all i needed?
[04:38] <intelikey> 'duh'
[04:38] <elite101> why didnt u say that in the first place?
[04:38] <intelikey> now you are glad i'm not an opper
[04:38] <intelikey> ;/
[04:39] <mneptok> too slow
[04:39] <intelikey> heh...   care to try again ?   :)))
[04:40] <mneptok> heheh
[04:40] <intelikey> /kick elite101
[04:41] <intelikey> oh well     so i'm not malisous
[04:42] <inaety> you guys know about skipping the downloading package lists part of the installation?
[04:44] <mneptok> inaety: it should timeout on its own
[04:44] <inaety> mneptok: thats what i thought but its been 20 minutes
[04:45] <mneptok> ctl-c
[04:45] <intelikey> inaety are you talking on the same box ?
[04:45] <inaety> i dont want to kill the installation
[04:45] <intelikey> i mean is the box actually connected ?
[04:46] <inaety> no intelikey then it would have downloaded the package lists :P

[04:46] <inaety> mneptok: you want me to hit escape?
[04:46] <Tm_T> inaety: with axe
[04:47] <inaety> what?
[04:47] <Tm_T> kidding
[04:48] <inaety> oh i see...
[04:48] <inaety> mneptok: should i hit esc or ctrl-c
[04:48] <mneptok> esc
[04:48] <intelikey> you know ubuntu should come with a warning, "not for use on computers that are not connected to the internet, or have slow down load speeds!"
[04:49] <adenicio> party like a rock star
[04:49] <adenicio> hello everybody :-)
[04:49] <intelikey> should be right on the web page
[04:49] <inaety> mneptok: that did...nothing
[04:49] <mneptok> try ctl-c
[04:50] <underdog5004> intelikey, so true
[04:50] <adenicio> i love this place many people cant help u with allmost every prob u have with feisty and many cant
[04:50] <adenicio> :-
[04:50] <adenicio> ok here my prob i install beryl but nothing is working no effects.why is that?
[04:50] <adenicio> ok here my prob i install beryl but nothing is working no effects.why is that?
[04:50] <intelikey> inaety alt+ctrl+esc   if you want to "kill" it
[04:50] <jhutchins> intelikey: Actually, maybe the live CD should check for a good connection to the servers and warn if installation is impractical.
[04:51] <underdog5004> adenicio, you need to select beryl as your desktop environment
[04:51] <jhutchins> adenicio: Once is plenty thank you.
[04:51] <intelikey> jhutchins heh.  yeah. more things to "time out"  :)
[04:51] <inaety> mneptok: nothing
[04:51] <adenicio> underdog5004: how do i do that im a beginner
[04:51] <inaety> and intelikey, i don't want to stop installing at 83%!
[04:52] <underdog5004> look under kmenu > System (or Settings, or Utilities) for Beryl Settings Manager. It should have a nice red gem next to it.
[04:52] <Crell> Why is my Feisty install sitting at 34% and not moving? :-(
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> wow, did the servers crash?
[04:52] <jhutchins> So many designers these days just assume broadband.  Us poor americans with the lousiest internet penetration in the world really suffer.
[04:52] <underdog5004> adenicio, try to soak up what people tell you, to see the logic behind it; don't just write what we tell you, understand what you're writing.
[04:52] <adenicio> jhutchins: ok changhai
[04:52] <intelikey> inaety you can use a process manager and kill what ever is halted and if you are lucky that won't kill the install   but the live CD is not the way to install  imo.
[04:52] <inaety> nvm
[04:52] <inaety> i did it...
[04:53] <inaety> intelikey: im too lazy to use text...what is this, slackware?
[04:53] <inaety> i got the internet running
[04:53] <inaety> i was just..too lazy to do that too :P
[04:55] <Scorpaen> how do i edit my PATH variable?
[04:55] <Scorpaen> need this urgently
[04:55] <adenicio> underdog5004: it wouldt be complicated if it was windows but just to find something here or to enter something u have to do 1.2.3 tell 10 windows its 1 then 10
[04:55] <Scorpaen> trying to enroll in school and Adobe Acrobat plugin doesn't work
[04:56] <adenicio> how do i get beryl as your desktop environment?
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> Scorpaen, what browser?
[04:56] <Scorpaen> firefox
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> Scorpaen, and yo installed the plugin via repos?
[04:56] <Scorpaen> no couldn't find it
[04:56] <Scorpaen> what is it called?
[04:56] <Scorpaen> i used source install script
[04:57] <Crell> Gr.
[04:57] <Scorpaen> what is it called in apt?
[04:57] <Crell> If the install process freezes at 34%, but the system doesn't, what's the proper course of action?
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> Scorpaen, try apt-cache search adobe to find the name
[04:57] <adenicio> jhutchins: how do i get beryl as my desktop environment
[04:57] <jhutchins> !beryl
[04:57] <ubot3> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:57] <underdog5004> adenicio, I already told you
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> Scorpaen, plus, you don't have to use adobe's plugin for pdfs, either
[04:57] <underdog5004> you need to learn how to learn.
[04:57] <adenicio> Scorpaen: how do i get beryl as my desktop environment
[04:58] <jhutchins> adenicio: This is not a beryl support channel.
[04:58] <jhutchins> WE can all see your question, repeating it to individuals has no effect other than to annoy everyone.
[04:58] <underdog5004> I'm annoyed.
[04:59] <underdog5004>  /kick adencio, please?
[04:59] <adenicio> underdog5004:  u didnt tell me how to it
[04:59] <underdog5004> look under kmenu > System (or Settings, or Utilities) for Beryl Settings Manager. It should have a nice red gem next to it.
[04:59] <underdog5004> that's what I wrote about 5 minutes ago
[05:00] <underdog5004> see how polite and concise it is?
[05:00] <jhutchins> underdog5004: we don't kick people for not understanding.
[05:00] <underdog5004> how about for not comprehending by choice?
[05:00] <saki_knin> with wath comand iI can change password
[05:00] <intelikey> jhutchins no.  but some times we want too....  ;/
[05:00] <underdog5004> saki_knin, sudo passwd username
[05:00] <jhutchins> underdog5004: If he's not going to respond sensibly, just ignore him.  Use /ignore if you need to.
[05:00] <underdog5004> jhutchins, noted. Thank you.
[05:00] <saki_knin> no, on irc
[05:01] <saki_knin> here
[05:01] <adenicio> underdog5004: im running beryl allready its in the bar de tache
[05:01] <intelikey> saki_knin use  /msg nickserv help
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> saki_knin, /msg NickServ register should help you with that
[05:01] <adenicio> underdog5004: but none of the option like rain bed the windows are workin
[05:02] <saki_knin> thx
[05:02] <underdog5004> adenicio, I told you how to do it. For the last time, you need to start beryl-settings-manager and right click on the gem in the task bar and Select Window Manager > Beryl. I'm ignoring you now.
[05:02] <adenicio> underdog5004: bend
[05:04] <underdog5004> sorry for my hate, everyone.
[05:04] <intelikey> the strangest of charictors seem so normal in places like belview and on irc ....
[05:05] <underdog5004> lol
[05:05] <morph_> people
[05:05] <underdog5004> different strokes for different folks
[05:05] <zimmo> why does my installation fail?
[05:05] <zimmo> intelikey help me!
[05:05] <TheNo1Yeti> Doing it wrong.
[05:06] <intelikey> zimmo what hardware and what install cd ?
[05:06] <zimmo> all systems possible
[05:06] <adenicio> underdog5004: im not listen to u again.by doing that it crash and reboot the sys
[05:06] <zimmo> i tried kubuntu, dreamlinux, debian
[05:06] <zimmo> all them fail!
[05:07] <zimmo> all they fail!
[05:07] <zimmo> intelikey
[05:07] <underdog5004> zimmo, do you have some kind of exotic hardware?
[05:07] <zimmo> no
[05:07] <zimmo> it was on perfect state then i tried to install the dreamlinux
[05:07] <zimmo> and i can not install any system anymore!
[05:08] <zimmo> let me explain the error
[05:08] <zimmo> i advance forward until the installation of the base system ok?
[05:09] <zimmo> then it simply stop installing... but do not accuse any error
[05:09] <zimmo> it simply stops!
[05:10] <jhutchins> zimmo: Are you using the alternative install CD?  Have you verified the MD5sum of the actual CD?
[05:10] <zimmo> well, i tried 3 different cds
[05:10] <zimmo> it has any difference between cd quality?
[05:10] <zimmo> for example a cd of 1 buck and a cd of 3 bucks
[05:10] <jhutchins> !br | zimmo just for reference
[05:10] <ubot3> zimmo just for reference: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:10] <DarthToad> zimmo, have you tried VGA safe mode?
[05:11] <zimmo> also i did it
[05:11] <zimmo> but the debian install is no in GUI
[05:11] <jhutchins> zimmo: I would recommend that you burn the alternative CD and verify it's md5sum, then try some of the options it offers like safe vga mode.
[05:11] <zimmo> ok
[05:12] <jhutchins> zimmo: Does the live CD run on your system?
[05:12] <zimmo> but i have tried also the same cd i have tried before
[05:12] <zimmo> yes
[05:12] <jhutchins> Then the install will eventually work.
[05:12] <zimmo> i am running from the dreamlinux live cd, it is lighter
[05:12] <intelikey> jhutchins not bad advice but i rather doubt that the vga settings will affect the installer app while it is running ???   maybe i missed something there.
[05:12] <zimmo> ok but if a cd worked before, why does is it not working anymore?
[05:13] <jhutchins> zimmo: Usually physical damage to the cD, like a scratch.
[05:13] <DarthToad> VGA has saved the day for me with my ATI card , but this was a few ubuntu releases ago
[05:13] <zimmo> jhutschins probably
[05:13] <zimmo> and what is the best way of downloading safely
[05:13] <jhutchins> That or the return spring on the read head weakens and it doesn't track correctly.
[05:14] <intelikey> DarthToad indeed   but i assume the issue was you couldn't get to the installer  rather than the installer hanging     no ?
[05:14] <jhutchins> zimmo: Whatever, just check both the downloaded file's md5 and the md5 of the actuall cd when you burn it.
[05:14] <zimmo> how can i do it?
[05:14] <zimmo> from Nero I mean
[05:14] <underdog5004> zimmo, I prefer bittorrent, because the file gets checked constantly.
[05:14] <DarthToad> intelikey, I think so, yes
[05:14] <jhutchins> zimmo: Nero is one of the reasons I quit using windows.
[05:14] <adenicio> jhutchins: for u to use beryl u must have a nvidea or ati card?
[05:14] <underdog5004> adenicio, or intel
[05:14] <jhutchins> zimmo: but nero should be able to verify a CD after burning.
[05:14] <zimmo> can you recommend me any software else?
[05:15] <jhutchins> zimmo: In linux, with the cd unmounted, md5sum /dev/cdr
[05:15] <intelikey> zimmo "knoppix"
[05:15] <underdog5004> zimmo, Alex Fienmans Iso Recorder is good
[05:15] <jhutchins> zimmo: I don't use windows, so I use k3b to burn CD's.
[05:15] <zimmo> ok
[05:15] <zimmo> jhutchins but do you realize i can not download a iso in a LIVE CD station
[05:16] <zimmo> it can not be stored only in RAM memory
[05:16] <jhutchins> zimmo: And seriously, check out kubuntu-br.  Not quite as busy, but sometimes easier to understand.
[05:16] <intelikey> zimmo yes it can   put it on hd
[05:16] <jhutchins> zimmo: Actually, you can mount any writable partition and save it there.
[05:16] <zimmo> i understand english but i am freaking i can not pay attenction on grammatics now
[05:16] <jhutchins> zimmo: But download in windows if you need to.
[05:16] <zimmo> ok
[05:17] <zimmo> or grammar!
[05:17] <jhutchins> zimmo: I would be surprised if nero doesn't have a way to check the md5sum of the .iso file.  Not very, but surprised.
[05:17] <zimmo> well, i am tired of it
[05:17] <jhutchins> zimmo: That's what i mean, sometimes it's easier not to have to translate.
[05:17] <zimmo> i am trying to re install a Linux system from 3 days
[05:17] <zimmo> i read it perfectly
[05:18] <Crell> Gah!  It did it again.
[05:18] <zimmo> there is no problem with linux and i do prefer in english answers
[05:18] <jhutchins> zimmo: Thousands are installed every day, you'll figure it out.
[05:18] <intelikey> Crell   "it"  ?
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, im assuming his install
[05:18] <Crell> Has anyone else had an issue with the Kubuntu install getting to 34% and then stopping?
[05:18] <zimmo> the problem is how, it is a kind of a curse
[05:18] <jhutchins> zimmo: My wife has been teaching herself what Cervantes called "The Beautiful Language".
[05:18] <zimmo> but i guess it is really a CD-ROM problem
[05:19] <jhutchins> Crell: verify your CD.
[05:19] <zimmo> what do you mean jhutchins
[05:19] <underdog5004> Crell, may be a problem with RAM
[05:19] <Crell> Hrm.
[05:19] <jhutchins> zimmo: Portugese!
[05:19] <Crell> underdog5004: I already ran memcheck and it didn't have a problem.
[05:19] <intelikey> Crell i have not seen it but i have heard reports   and some have said if they let it set there for about a half an hour it would resume....  i'm not sujesting that but it could be something timming out.
[05:19] <zimmo> jhutchins: portuguese is my native language
[05:20] <jhutchins> zimmo: I know.
[05:20] <zimmo> well, i have to get a better software in XP to burn the isos again
[05:20] <Crell> intelikey: Any idea what it's doing around 34%?  It would be helpful if it said.
[05:21] <intelikey> Crell you can open a konsole and check     ps -A x
[05:21] <zimmo> jhutchins: portuguese is the language of the excepcions
[05:21] <jhutchins> zimmo: I will tell her that.
[05:21] <zimmo> nobody can speak the right portuguese even we
[05:21] <intelikey> Crell last things before the konsole itself is what it's doing.
[05:21] <Crell> I'll try that next, after the CD verify.
[05:22] <intelikey> pstree is nice too   but i'm not sure it's avalable on the live CD
[05:23] <jhutchins> Good night all, and good luck.
[05:23] <zimmo> good night
[05:23] <intelikey> pstree -p
[05:23] <intelikey> jhutchins shalom
[05:25] <SilentDis> hello
[05:25] <intelikey> SilentDis
[05:26] <SilentDis> i'm looking for a package, and hoping someone can offer recommendations.  Got a pair of linux boxen here, this one (kubuntu 7.04), and an old laptop (xubuntu 6.10).  I'd like to monitor the packet traffic in/out on the kubuntu machine using a term based or very simple gui based program on the xubuntu laptop.  the laptop has all of a P1 300 and 64mb ram.  any suggestions?
[05:27] <adenicio> jhutchins: how do i get to the room ubuntu effects
[05:27] <adenicio> ?
[05:28] <tank71> SilentDis: I would like to know how to do that too lol
[05:28] <Drum> hello, how can i download something from the internet
[05:28] <whizadree> hey
[05:28] <Crell> SilentDis: Wireshark is the standard GUI traffic checker.
[05:28] <Drum> i try to download http://www.liquidweather.net/phpmv2/phpmyvisites.php?url=http%3A//www.message.co.nz/%7Ematt-sarah/lwp-14.8.skz&id=1&pagename=FILE:File%3Alwp-latest-mirror1
[05:28] <SilentDis> adenicio: /join #ubuntu-effects :)
[05:28] <intelikey> apt-cache search sniff       maybe ?
[05:28] <SilentDis> tank71: damnit lol
[05:28] <Drum> but this link is opening with "kate"
[05:28] <Crell> But if you're on a switch instead of a hub, you may not even get the packets you're after.
[05:29] <adenicio> SilentDis: tks
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> Drum, right click, save link as
[05:29] <SilentDis> i fully expected to be running a 'server' of sorts on this machine, and a client on the remote laptop.  heck, even something i can ssh into from the lappy would cover me.
[05:29] <whizadree> hmm brb
[05:29] <Crell> Oh good.  Errors found in 5 files.  WHY!!!
[05:30] <intelikey> adenicio jhutchins has signed off   but to answer your Q   /j #ubuntu-effects
[05:30] <whizadree> ok script works at last
[05:30] <Drum> hitmanWilly: in this case, the link will be saved as phpmyvisites.php
[05:30] <Drum> ..
[05:30] <intelikey> adenicio or /join   most irc clients alias /j as /join  but not all
[05:30] <SilentDis> Crell: wireshark, last i looked, is a bit large for what i'm needing.  Jmon, as example, is awesome for monitoring use and such
[05:31] <intelikey> lanshark
[05:31] <DarthToad> SilentDis: ngrep might work for you
[05:32] <SilentDis> !info ngrep
[05:32] <ubot3> ngrep: grep for network traffic. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.44-1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB
[05:32] <intelikey> my server is busy...    high lag time.
[05:32] <SilentDis> DarthToad: thanks, i'll look into it :)
[05:32] <DarthToad> no problem
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> Drum, ok, that's a php script that isn't running properly
[05:33] <Drum> how stupid is this konquer + kate
[05:33] <Drum> the link have been saved as binary in kate
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> Drum, alright, there may be a workaround here...open up a konsole
[05:34] <intelikey> very very high lag time...    *** -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 64.512 seconds ***
[05:34] <Drum> hitmanWilly: ok
[05:34] <Drum> hitmanWilly: opened
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> Drum, ok, right click and copy link location
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> Drum, in the browser
[05:35] <Crell> Hrm.  My md5sum checks out.
[05:35] <whizadree> is underdog5004 around??
[05:35] <Drum> hotmanWilly: i try to wget link but this doesn't work too
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> Drum, crap, ok...
[05:36] <Drum> hitmanWilly: this is a mirror not direct link..
[05:36] <lab> hola
[05:36] <elite101> hey where is the colour sheme changer? i wanna change the colour sheme to black and gray
[05:36] <Drum> just don't have idea how to save this link, maybe to install another browser
[05:37] <intelikey> w3m
[05:37] <Drum> i have found , that kate open link evry time
[05:37] <Drum> maybe to remove kate?
[05:37] <Drum> :)
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> Drum, that's just kate trying to open the php script
[05:38] <intelikey> elite101 colour of what ?
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> Drum, it thinks its a text file, which it kinda is, actually
[05:38] <intelikey> elite101 right click it ?    if it's a window check it's menus
[05:39] <Drum> hitmanWilly: yes..
[05:39] <intelikey> oops he's gone.
[05:39] <lab> were u from
[05:39] <adenicio> I JUS FOUND OUT my graphic card cannot handle compiz beryl etc...there goes my dream of having the cube desktop goes up in flames
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> Drum, you may be able to look at the script and figure out where the redirect is going
[05:40] <genii> Just got my new box installed at home :)
[05:40] <whizadree> adenicio: desktop or laptop?
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> Drum, but then again, maybe not, im pretty clueless when it comes to php :P
[05:41] <silverace> hello?
[05:41] <Drum> hitmanWilly: do you know alternative to kate? becouse probaly i'm going to remove it
[05:41] <Drum> any :)
[05:41] <adenicio> whizadree: desk
[05:41] <silverace> wow...heheheheh               HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHH    iam free of windows YAhhhooooo
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> Drum, you can't remove it otherwise the system will try to pull all of kde
[05:42] <whizadree> adenicio: well your lucky its easy to replace or install a second
[05:42] <silverace> hello all
[05:42] <silverace> :)
[05:42] <whizadree> silverace: hey
[05:42] <Drum> hitmanWilly: then maybe i will install opera..
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> Drum, do you have issues with FF?
[05:42] <genii> Something annoying tho...ctrl-alt-f1 OK but back with alt-f7 produces only a white screen. restart of gdm/kdm doesn't help. i810 driver used, mb manual says onboard is "Intel GMA X3000"
[05:42] <adenicio> now i cant even show these people how great linux is.where i am right now no one knows about linux wich sucks.i dont have no one to talk to about linux
[05:43] <adenicio> whizadree: a second what?
[05:43] <Drum> hitmanWilly FireFox? yes
[05:43] <Drum> idea
[05:43] <whizadree> Drum: whats the extension thats kate keeps opening
[05:43] <Drum> FireFox iss also good browsr
[05:43] <silverace> just intsalll kubunto linux  yesterday,,,,never used anything otyher then windows before,,
[05:43] <DarthToad> Any Konversation users know if it supports themes? It looks like you have to set every color
[05:43] <intelikey> adenicio you always have us
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> Drum, it seems to be a little easier to use than konq, altho it is somewhat more buggy
[05:44] <intelikey> adenicio i think he meant a second graphics card
[05:44] <Drum> whizadree: php and an arhive file :)
[05:44] <Drum> archive*
[05:45] <silverace> alot of reading ,,yup,,,but i think iam getting the hang of it,,the hardest part was setting up my video and dvd play back,,,wow,,,,what a bitch that was
[05:45] <adenicio> intelikey: yeah but im a beginner u all know much more then me.i could even find adept maneger and it was looking at me :-(
[05:45] <whizadree> well kate does have that option of removing filetypes in setting maybe its locked into that under markup/
[05:45] <Drum> but i can-t download opera, there is also an php redirect to archive :)
[05:45] <intelikey> adenicio we all started the same way
[05:45] <Drum> hope that ff provide direct link..
[05:46] <whizadree> something like settings , filetypes
[05:46] <genii> underdog5004: Thanks :) Much appreciated
[05:46] <agmowrey> Hello.
[05:46] <intelikey> adenicio some justed started longer ago.   kinda like life eeh
[05:46] <agmowrey> Is anybody here?
[05:46] <silverace> i read that kubuntu was the easiest for first timers to use...i still have xp but on my other drive..gonna use this os for a while
[05:46] <genii> underdog5004: Now i got my new home computer set up I'll be on at night so i'll definitely need caffeine!
[05:47] <underdog5004> ha ha
[05:47] <intelikey> wooops that was supposed to be sugger
[05:47] <whizadree> hey underdog5004 still havent set up email :-P
[05:47] <underdog5004> whizadree, np
[05:47] <whizadree> been offline for 24hrs to
[05:47] <underdog5004> intelikey, someone put sugar in the salt shaker?! it's not April!
[05:47] <genii> @lart intelikey
[05:47] <intelikey> :)
[05:47] <underdog5004> whizadree, what was the problem again?
[05:48] <genii> bah
[05:48] <underdog5004> ha ha
[05:48] <silverace> iam installed the 64bit version...by the way   WOW...this os is great..ill just use my xp for media, games now
[05:48] <genii> intelikey: I'm awake I'm awake! :) ROFL
[05:48] <whizadree> heh underdog5004 it was the case of the vacationing eth0 card
[05:48] <intelikey> genii   :)
[05:49] <whizadree> silverace:  try wine for some games they even work better and faster
[05:49] <intelikey> silverace why media... never mind you said 64bit    got it.
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> silverace, just be aware that the 64 bit arch is a little bit less well supported than 32
[05:49] <underdog5004> oh right!
[05:49] <underdog5004> erm...@ whizadree ^
[05:50] <agmowrey> How do you edit the open source?
[05:50] <adenicio> intelikey: lol.anyway im going to watch some manga then go to sleep got work 2morow to make money for that ati or nivedea card
[05:50] <intelikey> adenicio make it nv
[05:50] <whizadree> underdog5004:  i just wanted to be sure it wasnt messed up so i installed vista over it , and it found the net card
[05:50] <intelikey> adenicio you'll be glad you did
[05:51] <silverace> ok,,yeah,,,,i realized that when i look at the os requirments for programs ..ah well..about time i took advantage of the chip right!?!
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, go with the nvidia, ati cards blow
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> silverace, it is possible to run a multiarch system, but its a major pita
[05:52] <silverace> iam so glad this came with a chat client...ive so many questions i cant think of ONE to ask lol
[05:52] <adenicio> intelikey: someone in the ubuntu effects room told me ati are more compatible
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, ask him what he was smoking
[05:53] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: thats trus my ati blow on me
[05:53] <silverace> whats a multiiarch system?
[05:53] <adenicio> hitmanWilly:
[05:53] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: lol
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> silverace, 32 and 64 bit system running side by side on the same machine
[05:53] <underdog5004> silverace, a system that runs programs that are compiled for different architectures, mainly 32 and 64 bit i386
[05:53] <intelikey> adenicio more compatable with what ?   windows ?
[05:54] <silverace> oh  :}  hehe
[05:54] <underdog5004> it's basically so you can run 32-bit programs on a 64-bit OS
[05:54] <intelikey> adenicio more compatable with, some M$ geek in redmound ?
[05:54] <wolferine> anyone good with amarok/ipods, I have emptied the device, but its only 413MB empty of 4GBs
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004, speaking of which, has that gotten any easier over the past couple years? last time I tried it I got VERY familair with chroot :)
[05:55] <adenicio> lol
[05:55] <silverace> i am however very impressed that i figured all this crap out in just 2 nights,,i was inspired when i purchased a new hard drive last week  lol  figured i put the old one to use lol
[05:55] <underdog5004> hitmanWilly, no idea...the only time I've ever chrooted was when I was building gentoo...what a pita
[05:56] <underdog5004> I'm...just not ready for the level of commitment that gentoo requires...
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004, well, i run gentoo over here, but yeah lol
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004, it only took me 12 hours to install kde :P
[05:58] <intelikey> underdog5004 adds more knowledge...
[05:58] <teng> hi
[05:58] <silverace> played around with the hard drive jumper settings,,then wasted an hour or more worrying about dual boot,for nothing,,the kubuntu recognizes xp  ,,so yeah,,iam pretty impressed   lol
[05:58] <DarthToad> hitmanWilly, I know Gentoo makes you compile everythning, but are you serious about 12 hours just for KDE packages
[05:58] <intelikey> teng
[05:58] <teng> yes?
[05:58] <teng> i am new for here..
[05:58] <underdog5004> hitmanWilly, ha ha, you're lucky...it took me 36 hours to compile KDE
[05:59] <intelikey> !welcome | teng
[05:59] <teng> thanks^^
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> DarthToad, yup, depending on processor
[05:59] <underdog5004> I was on a laptop with a 1Ghz P3 and 256Mb RAM
[05:59] <intelikey> where's the bot ???
[05:59] <teng> so.. what's this room about?
[05:59] <underdog5004> intelikey, ubot3 is the bot
[05:59] <wolferine> anyone good with amarok/ipods, I have emptied the device, but its only 413MB empty of 4GBs
[05:59] <teng> everything about kubuntu?
[05:59] <whizadree> hitmanWilly: are you kidding?
[05:59] <DarthToad> Wow, i am simultaneously impressed and horrified
[05:59] <whizadree> 36hrs ?
[05:59] <ubot3> Factoid welcome not found
[05:59] <intelikey> teng official kubuntu help channel
[06:00] <silverace> so .i finally downloaded the right codecs for dvd play back,,,but yeah,,any suggestions on whats good a nd what is'nt is highly apprcted
[06:00] <waltercool> someone have problems mounting portable hard disks with ntfs?
[06:00] <intelikey> !hi | teng
[06:00] <ubot3> teng: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:00] <teng> well... it seems like i find my way to understand more about kubuntu
[06:00] <teng> hi everyone
[06:00] <whizadree> from download to install and reboot to login 23 mins
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> whizadree, that was on a p3 1 ghz, 12 on mine with a 2 ghz athalon
[06:00] <underdog5004> yeah...it was terrible
[06:00] <intelikey> !bot | teng
[06:00] <ubot3> teng: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:01] <underdog5004> I just left the darn thing on...went to work, came home, slept, went to work, came home, ate dinner, and I had a gui!
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> gentoo is a pain to get set up, but its not that difficult once you get it up and running
[06:01] <whizadree> !gentoo
[06:01] <underdog5004> I've also tried sabayon, but  just not to my liking...
[06:01] <ubot3> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[06:01] <teng> excuse me... what is binary4all?
[06:01] <teng> is that a forum?
[06:02] <silverace> ARE YOU F%$% KIDDING ME...uh heheheh  iam reading up on this os...no need for registry cleaners....no needd for alot of programs,,wow
[06:02] <underdog5004> silverace, it's nice, for sure
[06:02] <underdog5004> everything (almost) that you pay for on windows is free for us
[06:02] <The_Band-aid> Is it libdvdcss that I need to play commerical DVD's?
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> plus the layout actually makes sense to me, and almost zero bloat, plus its a lot easier to tinker around in
[06:02] <intelikey> silverace no need for firewalls or av software
[06:02] <underdog5004> disk burning software, partitioning tools, etc...
[06:02] <The_Band-aid> You still need a firewall
[06:02] <intelikey> !virus | silverace
[06:02] <ubot3> silverace: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:02] <The_Band-aid> you ALWAYS should have a firewall
[06:03] <whizadree> i just had a thought if you use wine and install windows programs would you need a reg cleaner to fix the winreg
[06:03] <underdog5004> and av if it's going to be a mail server for windows machines
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004, i run clamav here just to see what I can catch :P
[06:04] <wolferine> how can I tell the type of a partition?
[06:04] <The_Band-aid> have you caught anything yet?
[06:04] <intelikey> The_Band-aid yes yes we know     everyone needs a firewall.       errr well unless your box is secure and doesn't need a firewall  then you don't...
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> The_Band-aid, not on this box, but I haven't really been hunting them :P
[06:04] <intelikey> wolferine fdisk -l
[06:04] <teng> how do i register for this room?
[06:04] <The_Band-aid> intelikey: until you have to filter traffic because some kiddie is DDOSing you
[06:05] <wolferine> its a usb device
[06:05] <intelikey> The_Band-aid hard to DoS a dialup connection....
[06:05] <ellipsys> Hey there... anyone ever gotten a Synaptics touchpad to work as per the instructions on the wiki?
[06:05] <The_Band-aid> wolferine: is it recognized by gparted or some other partition software?
[06:05] <underdog5004> intelikey, no, it's easy
[06:06] <underdog5004> you don't need as many requests to clog the tubes...
[06:06] <whizadree> intelikey:  actually probably easier with DUP just do a ping flood and your stuck
[06:06] <The_Band-aid> intelikey: they've only got 56 kbps to clog
[06:06] <silverace> yup...i said years ago,,if linux supports more hardware/drivers ect,,i d switch,,the time was finally now,,,and VISTA lol  my god this os is SOOOOOOOOOO much cleaner and i like the gui much better
[06:06] <intelikey> wolferine if it has a partition that should show the partition type.   note usb sticks don't all have partitiions and also partition type may not match fs type
[06:06] <wolferine> its an ipod
[06:06] <whizadree> The_Band-aid: your on the same page as me
[06:06] <The_Band-aid> silverace: look up beryl, you will die
[06:06] <adenicio> is there a way to save all my pack that are install to back them up nd put it on my hdd fat?
[06:06] <The_Band-aid> whizadree: security is a hobby of mine
[06:07] <intelikey> whizadree connection drops out but the box is unaffected.   you can do that to a firewall too
[06:07] <silverace> i have to write a love letter to ubuntu,,tell them my pains ,,how windows did me wrong,,,i never knew there where women,,i mean os out there like you lol lol
[06:07] <whizadree> << used to work for an ISP in the UK ( Security and Leased Line Admin )
[06:07] <The_Band-aid> intelikey: if you have to take the box offline then they have accomplished their goal
[06:07] <The_Band-aid> whizadree: << spends way too much time on his sopha reading whitepapers
[06:08] <intelikey> heh then they set their goals way too low    lol
[06:08] <The_Band-aid> DDOS: distributed denial of service, if your denying the users service then you win, regardless of if it was you taking it offline or the user giving up
[06:08] <whizadree> The_Band-aid: yup got passed that now have acute snow blindness for to much time looking at the screen
[06:09] <The_Band-aid> wizadree: I try to keep my brightness down :P, but I am starting to see the effects
[06:09] <The_Band-aid> wizadree: If I go blind I'll get a braile screen and use lynx
[06:09] <The_Band-aid> wizadree: << hardcore
[06:09] <squaretro> hey got it to work kinda
[06:09] <squaretro> the video card thing
[06:10] <silverace> whats BERYL..aonther version,,dont tell me! its great right?
[06:10] <Aliyns> Beryl is great
[06:10] <whizadree> The_Band-aid:  theres KTTSMgR and KSayIt before that
[06:10] <The_Band-aid> silverace: no it runs on top of your installation
[06:10] <sharp12> Should I administer samba through the text editor or through the system settings/sharing?
[06:11] <Aliyns> !beryl
[06:11] <squaretro> ive got a question
[06:11] <The_Band-aid> sharp12: if I am doing anything with daemons I edit the configs manually, I don't trust GUI's for important stuff
[06:11] <intelikey> i should flush the rules just to prove the point...
[06:11] <dsmith_> anyone here eve deal with emperor linux, the company?
[06:11] <DarthToad> silverace,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_window_manager
[06:11] <wolferine> anyone good with amarok/ipods, I have emptied the device, but its only 413MB empty of 4GBs
[06:11] <silverace> i havent been this ,,,well excited about computers in a long long while,,,
[06:11] <whizadree> intelikey: did it work could you get out and could people still get in?
[06:12] <Aliyns> Sliverace, youtube Beryl for some action video's if you're curious.
[06:12] <silverace> ok
[06:12] <sharp12> TheBandaid:I can't get my windows box to look inside the linux box
[06:12] <dsmith_> Aliyns: thats what I did
[06:12] <The_Band-aid> here's a question for everyone, is beryl considered a window manager or what?
[06:12] <whizadree> silverace: search for Unbuntu Beryl on you tube
[06:12] <The_Band-aid> Its whatever metacity is called
[06:12] <intelikey> whizadree yes.
[06:13] <The_Band-aid> sharp12: look for software that lets windows read linux partitions
[06:13] <silverace> but every click iam learning something new,,,,should save all that stuff for later when iam used to this ,,,dont want to BLOW MY MIND lol
[06:13] <whizadree> The_Band-aid:  from my understanding yes its a WindowManager
[06:13] <The_Band-aid> sharp12: google for it, it does exist
[06:13] <squaretro> im trying to use cedega and i just put another video card in and reconfigured xserver-org but cedegra tells me my video card is not properly configured
[06:13] <The_Band-aid> wizadree: thanks, I hate it when I call something the wrong thing and get deluged by people correcting me
[06:14] <whizadree> intelikey: is there something im missing for decoding dvds , i play one and it says encrypted (no go away )
[06:14] <squaretro> opengl wont work
[06:14] <wolferine> anyone good with amarok/ipods, I have emptied the device, but its only 413MB empty of 4GBs
[06:14] <The_Band-aid> wizadree: I have given up playing dvd's in linux, I think you need libdvdcss or something like that. I just rip them and keep em on my hdd.
[06:15] <intelikey> !dvd | whizadree
[06:15] <underdog5004> wolferine, I'm terrible. I've never owned an iPod, and I prefer xmms to Amarok
[06:15] <The_Band-aid> !dvd
[06:15] <intelikey> bot is dead
[06:15] <savetheWorld> s/f/v
[06:15] <silverace> all kidding aside though,,its really something to have so many groups working together to offer the world something thats works,,,reliable,,,safe,,,unlimited  choices in applications,,uhmm,,,why did i buy windows?
[06:15] <wolferine> not exactly relevant
[06:16] <intelikey> does nessus use real users or psyudo users ?
[06:16] <ubot3> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:16] <squaretro> !nvidia
[06:16] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:17] <titanix88> !dvdnav
[06:17] <ubot3> Factoid dvdnav not found
[06:17] <silverace> BAND AID,,dont give up..if i figured it out ,iam sure you can,,,mind ya it took me a few hours and many failed attemps but ,,,heheh
[06:17] <titanix88> !libdvdnav
[06:17] <ubot3> Factoid libdvdnav not found
[06:17] <whizadree> wolferine:  try http://amarok.kde.org/forum/index.php/topic,13383.0.html
[06:19] <silverace> i have like this perma smile on my face,,ive set up everything ,,everything i nedd so far ,,,my god i  wish i knew about this sooner,,
[06:19] <titanix88> ubotu dead?
[06:20] <titanix88> !ubotu
[06:20] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:20] <silverace> what is the best os in linux,,or most popular?
[06:21] <squaretro> ok i just have one question i have an older nvidia geforce like an mx 420 i think what should i pick for the driver?
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> silverace, most popular, probably ubuntu, best, that depends on what you want
[06:21] <titanix88> silverace: u should say what is the best gnu/linux distro?
[06:21] <The_Band-aid> silverace: I stick with ubuntu and derivatives because they are well supported (I don't want to waste time getting hardware to work).
[06:21] <rhinosaur665> silverace: http://distrowatch.com/
[06:23] <whizadree> heh i remember when REDHat was all the rage ... and 75% of my system could not be found or had real trouble building from source
[06:23] <Aliyns> I've downloaded "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.11-pkg2.run" how do I install the drivers now? Its asking me to exit X
[06:23] <silverace> my screen is set good..widescreen set at 1440x900...and the nvidia driver seeems to work fine...just my refresh rate is set at 65 or 63..would like to get it to 75..but it still looks good
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> !nvidia | Aliyns try installing it from the repos...
[06:23] <ubot3> Aliyns try installing it from the repos...: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:24] <The_Band-aid> Aliyns: have you tried just enabling them in the restricted-manager? Its a lot easier than installing them from scratch
[06:24] <DarthToad> silverace, you may find this link helpful http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[06:24] <DarthToad> more specifically this section http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_setup_nVidia_drivers_in_7.04
[06:24] <Aliyns> I'm using an 8800GTS so the repo's driver is to old, I tried using the restricted-manager last time but had to re install.
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> Aliyns, nvidia-glx-new should work for you
[06:25] <Aliyns> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new ?
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> Aliyns, those are the 100 series drivers
[06:25] <wolferine> what program can you use to format your ipod?
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> Aliyns, that, then sudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:26] <TooEarly> mneptok: hey you around??
[06:26] <Aliyns> okay thanks, I'll give it a go now
[06:26] <intelikey> what's an ipod ?
[06:26] <The_Band-aid> lol
[06:26] <The_Band-aid> !ipod
[06:26] <ubot3> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:26] <The_Band-aid> there ya go
[06:26] <silverace> ok,,just so ya know,,i spent 2 nights reading up,,and maybe 5 hours setting up,,,read i think every page on ubuntu  lol,,,felt like it anyways,,and kubuntu seems to be the best for me,,easy set up..welll  still some things need tweaking but
[06:26] <whizadree> its a small pod for eyes
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, as far as i know, it should just read it as an external hd
[06:26] <wolferine> so you dont know
[06:27] <intelikey> so what's an ipod ?
[06:27] <The_Band-aid> silverace: I've ran the three main ubuntu derivatives,  the main difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the overall look, and some programs
[06:27] <titanix88> aliyns: do something bad in the xorg.conf(like selecting radeon driver for nvidia) and restart x.bla...x knocked out .that's how i do it ;) lol
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> its like an mp3 player, but less capable
[06:27] <The_Band-aid> silverace: xubuntu is lightning fast
[06:27] <The_Band-aid> silverace: I have it on my other laptop, and it goes from login to ready to work in 2-3 seconds
[06:28] <silverace> oh yeah! hmmmm! :)  heheh
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> anyway, im off, later
[06:29] <Aliyns> hitmanWilly, doing a sudo nvidia-xconfig gave me a terminal output saying something along the lines of backing up the old xorg.conf and replacing it with a new one is this what is ment to happen?
[06:29] <silverace> ill stick with this for now at least,,,if i try to many ill  lose time i need to learn this
[06:29] <whizadree> im running unbuntu that was installed with gnome
[06:29] <TooEarly> i'm using the program Devede and everytime i try to encode a dvd to a higher bitrate or any bitrate.. it outputs to the same file size which is around 2.9gigs anyone know what the problem is
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> Aliyns, yup, now restart X and all should be good
[06:29] <Aliyns> Thanks.
[06:29] <whizadree> then i installed everything Kubuntu
[06:30] <whizadree> then removed GNOME-Desktop
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> ok, im really off now :)
[06:30] <whizadree> brb
[06:31] <sharp12> when on a windows box what and it asks for user name and pass to the local host of my Kubuntu what should I put?
[06:31] <silverace> your using Kubuntu tuu? WHIZADREE?
[06:31] <silverace> hehe
[06:31] <titanix88> aliyns: u just ignored a pro advise...so saaaad...
[06:32] <Aliyns> Yeah I regret it now, I have no video any more after restarting X lol
[06:32] <intelikey> next day i have a clean "base" install to work with.
[06:32] <TooEarly> can you guys recommend some programs to burn dvd videos
[06:32] <silverace> ohh,,,,,the audio set up,,yeah ,,,ok,,,its in stereo or mono,,id like 5.1 since i have the speakers hooked up
[06:32] <intelikey> Aliyns dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:33] <Aliyns> Using recovery mode or something?
[06:33] <intelikey> from the console
[06:33] <intelikey> as root    or root jr.
[06:33] <Aliyns> Black screen means a black screen with no output, I can't do anything at the moment.
[06:34] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+f2
[06:34] <Aliyns> Control Alt F1-8 doesn't do anything :(
[06:34] <intelikey> oh framebuffering errors...
[06:34] <titanix88> aliyns: press alt+f1
[06:34] <intelikey> boot with    nosplash vga=0x0f05
[06:34] <underdog5004> genii, my kde keeps restarting, seems like about every 2 minutes
[06:34] <Aliyns> alt+f1 got me no where either.
[06:35] <titanix88> i mean ctsl+alt+f1
[06:35] <titanix88> i mean ctsl+alt+f1
[06:35] <intelikey> titanix88 catch up.
[06:35] <Aliyns> Should I just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg on root from Recovery mode (which gives me output)
[06:35] <dfrey> Where is the setting that specifies single-click or double-click to open a folder in konqueror?
[06:35] <ubuntu_> alguien habla espaol?
[06:35] <intelikey> Aliyns yes that should work
[06:36] <intelikey> !es | ubuntu_
[06:36] <ubot3> ubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:36] <erwin> necesito hacer unas consultas
[06:36] <intelikey> !es | erwin
[06:36] <ubot3> erwin: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:36] <Aliyns> And you were talking about framebuffering errors, is that there anything I should do differently than default when reconfiguring it?
[06:36] <sharp12> when on a windows box and it asks for user name and pass to the local host of my Kubuntu what should I put?
[06:36] <erwin> hola
[06:36] <whizadree> ok phew i thought i logged onto a spannish server there
[06:37] <genii> underdog5004: My condolences
[06:37] <titanix88> aliyns what card?
[06:37] <titanix88> aliyns what card?
[06:37] <Aliyns> 8800GTS
[06:37] <Aliyns> Inno3D 320MB if that matters.
[06:38] <erwin> im going to open a ciber cafe wiht ubuntu any body help my ?
[06:38] <underdog5004> genii, I don't want an irish coffee, I just want my computer to not freak out...lol
[06:38] <titanix88> intellykey nvidia-glx or glx-new?
[06:38] <titanix88> intellykey nvidia-glx or glx-new?
[06:38] <The_Band-aid> erwin: have you ever use a linux distribution before?
[06:39] <erwin> yes
[06:39] <erwin> ubuntu clasic
[06:39] <intelikey> Aliyns "frame buffering errors" was a referance to the problem of the hopelessly black screen of headlessism you faced, the cause is that xorg is setting the vidio mode to something that the hardware can't display and then when it drops back to the console it's not dropping back to text mode it's dropping back to the "usplash" vidio mode "fbcon" has setup.   and thus you have two useless vidio modes   but no access to any 
[06:39] <intelikey> they could always use    stm   to drop to tect mode.
[06:40] <Aliyns> I see, so its more likely a problem with refresh rates and resolutions than drivers am I right?
[06:40] <intelikey> that's one reason i don't like   usplash   it can leave you in the dark.
[06:40] <TooEarly> does anyone use dvd burning software?
[06:40] <intelikey> what is 8 seconds of eye candy one time at boot    compared to a recoverable system....
[06:40] <underdog5004> sorry to snap
[06:41] <titanix88> intelikey nvidia-xconfig does not work?
[06:41] <intelikey> "JUST SHOW ME THE TEXT" !!!
[06:41] <intelikey> titanix88 ?
[06:41] <The_Band-aid> In the next version of ubuntu, java needs to be less work to set up
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> apt-get install sun-java5-jre is a lot of work?
[06:42] <intelikey> java needs omited altogather.
[06:42] <intelikey> imo
[06:42] <titanix88> intelikey i mean as u r help aliyns from the first...
[06:42] <silverace> java.? java is garbage
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: unfortunately that isn't an option at present
[06:42] <Aliyns> titanix88, I did an nvidia-xconfig before.
[06:42] <intelikey> titanix88 ^    </shrugs>
[06:43] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido why so ?
[06:43] <silverace> well i have to do some more reading ,,thanks :) iam sure ill be back ,,
[06:43] <silverace> oh oh
[06:44] <intelikey> does it hurt really really bad sonny boy ??
[06:44] <silverace> linux MCE from what i understood,,latest version wont run on amd ????
[06:45] <whizadree> still cant get compiz to work ...
[06:45] <whizadree> shrugs
[06:45] <Level15> whizadree: what error r u getting?
[06:45] <whizadree> how do i test ..
[06:46] <silverace> whizadree..hey :) linux mce...does it run only on intel ?
[06:46] <ranjan> i am having a problem creating a symbolic link
[06:46] <ranjan> can anyone help?
[06:46] <Level15> whizadree: you already installed? and do u have decent drivers for your card?
[06:47] <Level15> !ask
[06:47] <ubot3> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:47] <whizadree> Level15: what do you call decent with an ati x1400 :-P
[06:47] <Level15> lol
[06:47] <Level15> well
[06:47] <ranjan> ln -s /media/sda5/mozilla/.mozilla /home/ranjan/.mozilla cretes a file not a folder why?
[06:47] <underdog5004> because it's a symlink to a folder
[06:47] <underdog5004> right?
[06:47] <Level15> links are files, in way
[06:48] <whizadree> .lnk files ..
[06:48] <silverace> adept manager much better then synapic ,,,
[06:48] <Level15> whizadree: dude, no...
[06:48] <underdog5004> silverace, no, you're wrong
[06:48] <The_Band-aid> what is firefox's default installation directory
[06:48] <underdog5004> silverace, it's the other way around
[06:48] <silverace> iam am
[06:48] <Level15> whizadree: so, did u already install the software?
[06:48] <underdog5004> The_Band-aid, /usr/bin/firefox
[06:48] <underdog5004> I think
[06:48] <ranjan> >> /media/sda5/mozilla/.mozilla is my firefox backup folder
[06:48] <intelikey> command to close a single port ?
[06:49] <ranjan> i want to creta a link in my home folder to it
[06:49] <whizadree> Level15: yeah i 99% sure
[06:49] <intelikey> itpables ???  what?
[06:49] <whizadree> mager is up there , with all the plugins
[06:49] <whizadree> manager sorry
[06:49] <Level15> whizadree: ok, then fire up a konsole and run compiz
[06:49] <Level15> :D
[06:49] <firebird619> Is there something that can be put into .asoundrc to get sound from both hw:0,0 and hw:0,1 at the same time?
[06:50] <Aliyns> For my video card adaptor do I select nv or nvidia using an 8800GTS?
[06:50] <whizadree> Fatal: Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system
[06:50] <Level15> dude... that's weirdo...
[06:51] <ranjan> anyone? /media/sda5/mozilla/.mozilla is my firefox backup folder i need to create a symbolic link to it in my home folder
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> not really
[06:51] <Aliyns> I have video now but with low res and it really doesn't feel as if I have full video acceleration from my hardware at all yet..
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> ati or nvidia?
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Aliyns: if it's the default driver, you don't.
[06:52] <rhinosaur665> ranjan: the command that you posted above should do that
[06:53] <ranjan> well it makes a file inside home whereas .mozilla should be a folder
[06:53] <whizadree> Level15: also tried sudo compiz -replace
[06:53] <silverace> wow  me likes beryl
[06:53] <aldin> can someone tell me what ! and x mean in /etc/group
[06:53] <silverace> lol  thanks to who ever mentioned it
[06:53] <rhinosaur665> ranjan: `cd /home/ranjan/.mozilla` and see what happens
[06:54] <Aliyns> 8800GTS nvidia.
[06:54] <silverace> i just need to get 5.1 speakers set up,,it can be done i hope!..right?
[06:54] <ranjan> rhinosaur665: no such file or directory
[06:54] <silverace> oh and a flash player plugin
[06:55] <rhinosaur665> ranjan: when you issued the command to link it, was there an error of some sort?
[06:55] <ranjan> rhinosaur665: none
[06:55] <rhinosaur665> ranjan: also, if you do `ls -a` in your home folder, does .mozilla show up?
[06:56] <Level15> whizadree: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/enable_compizfusion_in_ubuntu_feisty/
[06:56] <Level15> whizadree: from what i read there, seems to be an ATI issue
[06:56] <Level15> ranjan: file $HOME/.mozilla
[06:56] <ranjan> rhinosaur665: nope but in konqueror it shows
[06:57] <ranjan> rhinosaur665: actually it show but in red
[06:58] <Level15> ranjan: what was the result of the command i just sent you?
[06:59] <ranjan> rhinosaur665: /home/ranjan/.mozilla: broken symbolic link to `/media/sda5/mozilla/.mozilla'
[06:59] <Level15> there you go...
[06:59] <Level15> you created a symbolic link to something that doesn't exist
[06:59] <rhinosaur665> ranjan: are you sure your path exists and that sda5 is mounted?
[07:00] <ranjan> rhinosaur665: i can browse to system:/media/sda5/mozilla/.mozilla in konqueror
[07:00] <whizadree> Level15: looking now at the page
[07:01] <whizadree> just watched the video
[07:01] <Level15> ranjan: try to create the link from inside konqueror
[07:01] <Level15> whizadree: look at the comments on the bottom
[07:01] <ranjan> Level15:  crl+shift and drag drop?
[07:01] <Level15> just drag and drop, konq will ask you if you want to link, copy or move
[07:02] <Level15> (i think)
[07:02] <ranjan> Level15: i did it
[07:02] <ranjan> Level15: this worked --> ln -s /media/data/mozilla/.mozilla /home/ranjan/.mozilla
[07:03] <ranjan> Level15 & rhinosaur665 thanks
[07:03] <Level15> ranjan: ok, np. just out of curiosity, what was it what you had tried before?
[07:04] <ranjan> >> /media/sda5/.... instead of /media/data/.....
[07:04] <notv> is flash supposed to work more than half of the time?
[07:04] <notv> it works for me on the adobe site but other sites tell me i need to upgrade
[07:05] <Level15> ranjan: oh, ok
[07:05] <ranjan> thanks again folks and see ya'll later, need to configure the rest of my desktop
[07:05] <Level15> notv: flash is evil sometimes... i think it's b/c flash in windows is not just the player but some ActiveX control and some websites expect to use it...
[07:05] <Level15> ranjan: ok, np
[07:06] <notv> level15 is there any way around it?
[07:06] <Level15> notv: which website r u visiting? let me check what results i get
[07:07] <notv> http://www.myspace.com/officialevelynglennie
[07:08] <Level15> notv: ok, i got a youtube video and some photo gallery... seems to be working here. what browser/flash version are u using?
[07:09] <notv> does the first video next to band members work for you?
[07:09] <notv> im using firefox 2.0.0.4
[07:09] <Level15> tell me the captio so i can find it
[07:09] <notv> and the latest flash i believe its 9
[07:09] <notv> i think i installed it from synaptic
[07:10] <whizadree> restarting x brb
[07:11] <Level15> notv: ?
[07:11] <notv> level15 im using firefox 2.0.0.4
[07:11] <notv> level15 did the first video work for you?
[07:12] <Level15> notv: please tell me the caption of the video so i know which one you are referring to
[07:12] <notv> level15: the first video under general info, next to the label band members
[07:13] <notv> level15 above the 2 youtube videos
[07:13] <Level15> notv: it's not a video, it's a picture slide... yes, it works
[07:13] <whizadree> i got an error saying dpatch isnt installed
[07:13] <Level15> notv: u on 32 or 64 bits? and check the flash version
[07:13] <notv> can you remind me how to check that
[07:14] <Level15> about:plugins on the location bar
[07:16] <Level15> notv: ?
[07:16] <whizadree> dpatch issue resolved
[07:17] <notv> level15 sorry i cant find it
[07:17] <notv> im a noob i suck
[07:19] <Level15> notv: ok, for the flash version... in the location bar of the browser, type in "about:plugins" without the quotes, hit enter.  it should say something like Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31
[07:19] <Level15> and please tell mee the output of "uname -a" on a konsole too
[07:20] <intelikey> howto send "magic" wake on lan   packets ?
[07:20] <notv> level15 oh hmm i guess i have 7.0 r69
[07:20] <notv> i bet i just need to upgrade it
[07:20] <Level15> notv: that should do it, yes
[07:20] <intelikey> 7.0    syntax error
[07:20] <intelikey> there is no month zero
[07:21] <intelikey> release code is   yeah.month
[07:21] <Level15> !ubotu
[07:21] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:21] <Level15> HAHAHAH
[07:21] <Level15> \liar!
[07:21] <wolferine> what is a good app to CD->mp3 my music collection, that can maintain my tags?
[07:21] <Level15> wolferine: konqueror
[07:21] <fam> anyone know how i can change the driver for my video card if kubuntu says these settings cannot be safely tested?
[07:22] <fam> mines an intel 945 but im using an i800 driver
[07:22] <Level15> fam: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:22] <wolferine> Level15, really?
[07:22] <intelikey> howto,  send "magic" wake on lan   packets ?    anyone ?
[07:22] <Level15> wolferine: yep :D
[07:22] <wolferine> Level15, I really doubt that
[07:23] <Level15> put your cd on the drive, and on the location bar type audiocd:/
[07:23] <intelikey> i want remote power on on my server boxen       ?
[07:23] <wolferine> and....
[07:24] <Level15> there are some folders there, one of them shoudl be mp3, another ogg... just drag the songs out
[07:24] <fam> ok got that open but if its showing that i have a intel 945 do i just replace i800 w/ i945?
[07:25] <Level15> i think the mp3 folder will  only be shown if kde was compiled against liblame or something.. not sure, though. i remember i did that on slackware long time ago
[07:25] <stdin> fam: ??
[07:25] <intelikey> fam  i think it's  i910   but not sure.
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: KAudioCreator
[07:26] <notv> level15 do i have to uninstall the version of flash i am currently running first?
[07:26] <intelikey> stdin the driver   i910   ?
[07:26] <stdin> fam: the intel driver is called "i810"
[07:26] <Level15> wolferine: did it work?
[07:26] <Level15> notv: yes
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> wolferine: especially KAC with lame and/or flac
[07:26] <wolferine> Level15, I thought you were sh1tting me
[07:26] <Level15> wolferine: dude, i am dead serious
[07:26] <intelikey> stdin ah only an i810    i thought there was a 910 also...    my bad
[07:27] <stdin> (well, the current driver is "i810", it will be replaced with "intel" )
[07:27] <wolferine> Level15, waiting to view the tags
[07:27] <Level15> wolferine: it hasn't loaded them?
[07:27] <notv> level15 can you tell me the best way to do that?
[07:27] <wolferine> how would I know?
[07:27] <wolferine> I am waiting....
[07:27] <wolferine> O_o
[07:27] <stdin> intelikey: there is a module for i910 dri, but but that's autoloaded
[07:27] <intelikey> stdin don't know how to wake a computer over the lan do you ?
[07:27] <stdin> intelikey: erm kernel module rather
[07:27] <wolferine> 30 mins remaining
[07:28] <stdin> intelikey: I've never tried
[07:28] <Level15> notv: how did u install it?
[07:28] <fam> yes i see that
[07:28] <wolferine> 35 mins for 50MBs, not too efficient
[07:28] <intelikey> yeah i was thinking  kernel and typing xorg   like i said   'my bad'
[07:28] <intelikey> i'm old enough to do that once in a while....
[07:29] <Level15> notv: never mind. just get rid of *flash* inside .mozilla/plugins, and using adept get rid of any flash player things you find
[07:29] <Level15> then just fire up mozilla to a flash website, it will download and install
[07:29] <Level15> wolferine: well, audio encoding has always been demanding... and time consuming
[07:29] <notv> i got it from the website
[07:29] <wolferine> Level15, true
[07:30] <wolferine> so it this works, ill use it :)
[07:30] <stdin> intelikey: I did find "wakeonlan" in universe ?
[07:30] <intelikey> stdin me either until now.   i think its time i learn how.     the server is on a different floor from the office   so i may need to know how to  lan alarmclock the remote box.
[07:30] <Level15> notv: do what i just told you, it's easier this way
[07:30] <wolferine> took me about 2 months to do it last time
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> again, kaudioconvertor + lame and/or flac.  i don't know if konqueror uses cdparanoia, and i don't trust it if it doesn't.
[07:30] <intelikey> what ?   cool
[07:30] <Level15> wolferine: it sure does :)
[07:30] <wolferine> hopefully I can do it right this time
[07:30] <stdin> intelikey: heh "apt-cache search wakeonlan" :p
[07:30] <intelikey> etherwake - A little tool to send magic Wake-on-LAN packets
[07:31] <notv> ok
[07:31] <intelikey> looks like both will work...     neetO
[07:32] <stdin> intelikey: apparently the difference is the wakeonlan uses udp packets and so doesn't need root privalages (no that that's a consideration to you :P)
[07:33] <intelikey> :)
[07:33] <intelikey> i see you know me too well for that... :)
[07:34] <stdin> :)
[07:35] <Level15> cya guys
[07:35] <Level15> going to sleep
[07:41] <ranjan> kubuntu-restricted-extras ? where is this in repos?
[07:43] <stdin> ranjan: in gutsy
[07:43] <stdin> ranjan: not in feisty (yet?)
[07:43] <ranjan> stdin: yes i am using gutsy
[07:43] <ranjan> but cannot find it using apt-cache search
[07:43] <stdin> then you should be asking in #ubuntu+1
[07:44] <stdin> and it is in multiverse
[07:44] <ranjan> ty
[07:44] <wolferine> having an issue with installing a package using aptitude, if I just want to skip the package, what do I need to run?
[07:45] <wolferine> or well, remove it entirely
[07:47] <intelikey> who knows rsync ?    i want to copy files from host:dir/  to  dir/   but exclude symlinks and files that exist in dir/       anyone know the syntax/switches ?
[07:47] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[07:47] <ubot3> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:48] <wolferine> soulrider, thats not the same thing :)
[07:48] <soulrider> uhm ?
[07:49] <wolferine> anyways, I just used synaptic to remove the package
[07:49] <stdin> wolferine: soulrider joined after you asked the question, wasn't a reply to you
[07:50] <wolferine> oh :P
[07:50] <wolferine> sorry soulrider
[07:51] <soulrider> lo, no prob
[07:53] <lione_> hello there where can I get zaptel.ko?
[08:00] <wolferine> lione_, setting up *?
[08:03] <whizadree> ive got it to work in gnome at 75% , just hacked the xconf to pieces
[08:03] <whizadree> and some windows dont go away
[08:05] <whizadree> i bet kde is now super messed up though
[08:05] <dsmith_> hi, whats the command for showing available space in a folder?
[08:06] <dsmith_> is it something like this?  sensor=disk format="%ug / %tg GB"
[08:07] <stdin> is that for superkaramba?
[08:07] <ebaad> Hello, I need some to configure apache virtual hosts
[08:08] <ebaad> please
[08:08] <dsmith_> yea
[08:08] <dsmith_> I can see /root /sda1 but not /home
[08:08] <ebaad> I want to setup another virtual host besides the localhost site
[08:08] <ebaad> i have looked at the examples on apache.org but I could not understand much
[08:09] <dsmith_> ebaad: Apache has great documentation
[08:09] <stdin> dsmith_: you need to set the "mountpoint="/something" " for each mount
[08:09] <ebaad> yes u r right but I followed that but I could not get it right
[08:10] <ebaad> I always have difficulty in trying to configure this
[08:10] <dsmith_> ebaad: try #apache
[08:10] <dsmith_> stdin: let me paste what I have
[08:10] <dsmith_> text   x=5 y=525  value="home"
[08:10] <dsmith_> text x=160 y=525  sensor=disk format="%ug / %tg GB"
[08:10] <dsmith_> mountpoint="/home/" align=right
[08:10] <dsmith_> text x=200 y=525  sensor=disk format="(%up%)" mountpoint="/home" align=right
[08:11] <dsmith_> 4 lines
[08:12] <stdin> try moving the mountpoint line to the same line as sensor ? (maybe)
[08:12] <ebaad> i did apache2, it says could not reliably determine server FQDN
[08:12] <dsmith_> stdin: ok
[08:12] <dsmith_> hmmmm that may be it
[08:12] <stdin> ebaad: you need to set the host to localhost, take a look at the LAMP guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:13] <ebaad> i have done this before, but evertime I try to get the virtual hosts configured i have problems
[08:14] <ebaad> i looked at the link, I think this looks more understanding to me, may be I just could not follow the format that apache.org has
[08:15] <ebaad> thanks
[08:15] <ebaad> hopefully i wont bug you guys about this
[08:18] <dsmith_> superkaramba is buggy
[08:18] <dsmith_> :/
[08:32] <stdin> !test
[08:32] <ubot3> Failed.
[08:32] <ubotu> failed
[08:33] <NickPresta> >_>
[08:34] <ebaad> hello, i was just here and asked for some help with apache virtual host setu
[08:35] <ebaad> somebody send me a link to ubuntu website, I could not book mark it and the pc turned off
[08:35] <ebaad> I would reallu appreciate if you can give me the apache configuration link again
[08:35] <ebaad> thanks
[08:35] <stdin> ebaad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:36] <ebaad> awesome thanks much
[08:36] <stdin> :)
[08:43] <Tm_T> !info dash
[08:43] <ubotu> dash: The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is required. Version 0.5.3-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 82 kB, installed size 204 kB
[08:43] <ubot3> dash: The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is required. Version 0.5.3-3ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 91 kB, installed size 232 kB
[08:43] <Tm_T> oki
[08:44] <Tm_T> noooooooooo
[08:44] <stdin> autojoin strikes again
[08:44] <Tm_T> that's not fair
[08:45] <NickPresta> heh
[08:45] <Tm_T> that's not fair!
[08:45] <stdin> you can always kickban :p
[08:46] <Tm_T> wow
[08:46] <Tm_T> how did I do that
[08:46] <stdin> because you are magic?
[08:47] <Tm_T> what, when I did get alias for that
[08:47] <Tm_T> no, that's not possible, who's tweaking _my_ irssi?!
[08:54] <BAsh`> I am trying to setup printers but i cant access the printers config screen: http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/309/snapshot1dw7.png
[08:54] <BAsh`> as you can see there arnt any printer icons there
[08:55] <stdin> BAsh`: yes there is
[08:55] <stdin> BAsh`: oh, wait
[08:56] <BAsh`> i've configured it a bit - can you check on your version i want to see if it is just me
[08:56] <stdin> BAsh`: you have kdeprint ?
[08:57] <BAsh`> okay i'm installing it now
[08:57] <stdin> BAsh`: it should be installed automatically? how did you install kubuntu ?
[08:58] <BAsh`> like i said i've tweaked it ;)
[08:58] <BAsh`> okay its there now
[08:58] <BAsh`> thx for your help!
[08:59] <stdin> BAsh`: no problem :)
[09:00] <silverace> need help ...cant fint admin in system
[09:00] <silverace> System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[09:00] <silverace> Enable: Nvidia Drivers
[09:00] <stdin> silverace: that's gnome instructions, follow the edgy instructions
[09:01] <silverace> i see System  ,,terminal,,synaptic..no adm
[09:02] <silverace> iam using kubuntu..soooooo use edgy?
[09:02] <stdin> yes
[09:02] <silverace> :) tanks
[09:04] <silverace> well maybe someone can help...i just installed kubuntu recently...i have a geforc nvidia 7600gs..i see on nvidias site a driver for my card for linux
[09:04] <silverace> do i use that?
[09:05] <stdin> silverace: NO, use the ubuntu packages
[09:06] <silverace> lol
[09:06] <silverace> so go to add programs an type nvidia
[09:07] <stdin> silverace: with the ubuntu packages you just install them, with the nvidia download you have to switch to a terminal kill X compile and install the driver, then do that for every update
[09:07] <silverace> ive been on wondows for ..yikes 1992,,,,i just switch top linux 2 nights ago
[09:07] <stdin> silverace: just use Adept to install it
[09:08] <silverace> wondows  ...errr  windows...wondows ...lol
[09:08] <silverace> ok thank you
[09:08] <silverace> be right back hehe
[09:13] <arun> has anyone here tried the zend php framework?
[09:15] <hangthedj> i've got it installed but i don't think i use it ;/
[09:17] <arun> hangthedj: ?
[09:18] <hangthedj> i don't even really know what it is, i just compiled php with --enable-zend-blah-blah
[09:19] <silverace> glx del or legancy..iam using kububtu nvidia 7600
[09:21] <stdin> silverace: try the nvidia-glx
[09:21] <stdin> silverace: if, and only if, that doesn't work you use the glx-legacy onw
[09:22] <kraut> moin
[09:22] <voln> hi have winxp and kubuntu on my hard drive. But I can't see folders winxp...
[09:23] <stdin> !ntfs | voln
[09:23] <ubotu> voln: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:23] <NickPresta> Goodnight #kubuntu. Sleep well.
[09:23] <voln> thanks
[09:24] <silverace> so  not the dev? for nvidia
[09:24] <stdin> no
[09:24] <stdin> silverace: just install what the guide says
[09:25] <silverace> ok,,thanks,,its only my second night with this..iam reading none stop,,
[09:25] <silverace> well worth it though..my first impressions any how
[09:26] <silverace> after i need to set up 5.1 surround
[09:26] <silverace> setting up dvd play back was a hoot   ,,,rrrrrrrrrrrrrright lol
[09:27] <silverace> ill still use xp for dvd copying viewing,,but its nice to have things working on this drive
[09:27] <stdin> silverace: I don't use windows for *anything*
[09:28] <stdin> I don't need to
[09:29] <sheldonc> gaming would be nice
[09:29] <silverace> lol heyyyyyy...i found a use for my mouses wheel  lol
[09:30] <m_> lets hear
[09:30] <silverace> click on task bar then moose mouse wheel
[09:30] <silverace> moose-move...what
[09:31] <m_> nice
[09:31] <m_> !!
[09:31] <silverace> i have to use xp for games..i mean,,,i have the puter for it..and dvdv play back,,but thats it i think
[09:32] <m_> hey so what about ur copy of XP
[09:32] <silverace> finally,,another use for the mouse wheel lol
[09:32] <intelikey> howto determine the MAC address of boxen ?
[09:32] <m_> do u think there I should get it on bittorrent, I f I was outside of the us ill do it in a click
[09:33] <m_> I should get it and not update it
[09:33] <m_> I need to play the games
[09:33] <silverace> oh,,kubuntu installed very nicely..i just added a slave drive and after install it recognixed xp os...dual boot no probs..nice
[09:33] <intelikey> howto determine the MAC address?
[09:34] <stdin> intelikey: I _think_ you can use arping for that
[09:34] <m_> u mean IP
[09:34] <stdin> m_: no, he doesn't
[09:34] <m_> ok
[09:34] <hangthedj> ifconfig |grep HWaddr?
[09:35] <intelikey> iputils-arping - Tool to send ICMP echo requests to an ARP address
[09:35] <intelikey> arping - sends IP and/or ARP pings (to the MAC address)
[09:35] <silverace> iam luvin this ..no more windows..breath the free air my freands  hewhe
[09:38] <intelikey> stdin  from lshw     serial: 00:06:29:0d:47:d5     <<< that would be what i'm looking for wouldn't it ?
[09:39] <intelikey> errr did i just broadcast that ????      damn
[09:39] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, that looks right, ifconfig will show it too
[09:47] <Tabmows> anyone use kubuntu to vpn to a windows server vpn?
[09:58] <SniZ> hi, i try set up keyboard switch in  my KDE, but layouts only change via CTRL+ALT+K
[09:59] <SniZ> i wanna to change layout via CTRL+SHIFT....
[10:00] <SniZ>        Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg"
[10:00] <SniZ>         Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"
[10:00] <SniZ>         Option          "XkbLayout"     "us,ru"
[10:00] <SniZ>         Option          "XkbVariant"    ",winkeys"
[10:00] <SniZ>         Option          "XkbOptions"    "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
[10:00] <SniZ> whan i do wrong?
[10:02] <Assid> heya
[10:03] <ebaad> Hi Stdin, I tried the apache howto you sent me the link for, but I want to configure like htt://localhostsite1 and http://localhost/site for now and it does not explain that
[10:03] <Assid> i have adept telling me theres an update for compiz-fusion .. but everytime i update it ,.... nothing happens.. adept says i still need to update
[10:03] <pag> Assid, try  sudo apt-get upgrade  from the konsole
[10:04] <stdin> ebaad: I don't run apache anymore, try googleing for "Apache virtual hosts"
[10:04] <Assid> pag: i did.. same thing
[10:04] <Assid> doesnt go away
[10:04] <pag> Assid, no error messages from apt?
[10:04] <ebaad> oh ok then what running is it better..........
[10:04] <Assid> and ever since i upgrade the rest of the compiz packages.. now compiz doesnt work for me
[10:04] <Assid> pag: no error
[10:05] <SniZ> HELP ME WITH CHANGING LAYOUT!
[10:05] <stdin> Assid: sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[10:05] <stdin> !CAPS | SniZ
[10:05] <ubotu> SniZ: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:05] <Assid> stdin: still no
[10:05] <SniZ> hehe
[10:05] <stdin> Assid: what happens ?
[10:05] <Assid> stdin: it installs the new package (unpacking replacement) setting up.. and back to prompt
[10:06] <Assid> like normal
[10:06] <pag> Assid, it sounds like you have conflicting upgrades... like v2.1universe and v.2.1otherrepo  and apt doesn't know which to choose
[10:07] <pag> Assid, try disabling compiz repos if you have any, and try again
[10:07] <Assid> im using  deb http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[10:07] <Assid> imim using i think thats the one
[10:07] <Assid> problem is i dont know which is the repo for compiz :(
[10:07] <Assid> yeah thats the one
[10:07] <Assid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[10:10] <SniZ> what better, beryl or compiz?
[10:11] <Assid> SniZ: they are merged
[10:11] <SniZ> and what i must install, in reps i have beryl and comlix
[10:11] <stdin> it's not in the official repos yet
[10:11] <Assid> compiz-fusion
[10:12] <Assid> stdin: security upgrades on compiz killed my box:(
[10:14] <arun> stdin: does gutsy use kde 4?
[10:14] <stdin> arun: no
[10:15] <arun> stdin: what does it use for desktop effects
[10:15] <Assid> arun: compiz-fusion
[10:15] <Assid> stdin: gutsy stable enough yet?
[10:15] <stdin> arun: nothing by default (that may change), but compiz-fusion in ubuntu
[10:16] <stdin> Assid: for normal users, no
[10:16] <stdin> it's being stubborn right now :p
[10:16] <Sithe> HAI KUBUNTU!
[10:16] <Assid> alrite lemme see if compiz starts now
[10:17] <Assid> if i die.. send me a postcard
[10:17] <sauvin> Sithe would like to know how to get an ATI Radeon 800mumble working under ubuntu.
[10:17] <Sithe> sauvin: yes!
[10:18] <stdin> install the fglrx driver probably
[10:18] <Sithe> Already did that
[10:18] <Sithe> did it like 5 times too
[10:18] <stdin> from where?
[10:18] <Sithe> apt-get
[10:19] <stdin> in what way is it not working?
[10:19] <Sithe> the kernel is missing from xorg.0.log or w/e that file is
[10:20] <melomane> hi
[10:20] <trekdanne> maybe a little OT but I was thinking about doing a back-up of some random files, using some online one-click file hosting, which should I use?
[10:20] <stdin> Sithe: you have the linux-restricted-modules package installed?
[10:21] <melomane> excuse me, how can i erase a rewritable dvd by K3B? there are just "earse rewritable cd and format dvd" in menus
[10:21] <Sithe> stdin: I dont think so
[10:21] <pag> melomane, what's wrong with 'format dvd' option?
[10:21] <melomane> pag: it doesnt do anything to my dvd
[10:21] <stdin> Sithe: you need it, it'll be called linux-restricted-modules-generic or something like that
[10:22] <melomane> pag: i tried that, but all information on dvd were still on my DVD disk
[10:22] <Sithe> in symnaptic?
[10:22] <stdin> melomane: K3B will erase it when it begins to write to it
[10:22] <stdin> Sithe: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:22] <melomane> stdin: after i formated it?
[10:22] <Bauldrick> how do i get my camcorder to work in kino?
[10:22] <Sithe> stdin: Ubuntu Fiesty
[10:23] <Sithe> stdin: I was told to come to #kubuntu
[10:23] <stdin> Sithe: why? by who? if you are using ubuntu, you should ask in #ubuntu
[10:23] <Sithe> stdin: By sauvin
[10:24] <pag> melomane, there is 'force' -option in format dvd - but stdin's right; k3b will format dvd while writing to it
[10:24] <sauvin> I was thinking the folks in here would have a better idea how to get X running under ubuntu.
[10:24] <melomane> pag: aha yea i saw that option (force)but i didnt know  its use
[10:25] <melomane> pag , stdin : thanks
[10:25] <Assid> back
[10:25] <Assid> stdin: didnt work.. compiz still broken
[10:25] <stdin> Sithe: there should be a restricted drivers manager in Ubuntu
[10:25] <Sithe> stdin: It says I have no restricted drivers
[10:25] <melomane> another question: does kubuntu automatically mount the windows ntfs drives or i have to moun t them?
[10:26] <sauvin> There were other things I had to do involving adding some sections to xorg.conf and suchlike, and running aticonfig, but I don't remember where I found those instructions :(
[10:26] <Assid> melomane:  you can have it automount if its in the /etc/fstab
[10:26] <pag> Sithe, ati800 should work pretty well with open drivers iirc
[10:26] <Sithe> pag: I have no idea what that is lol
[10:26] <stdin> Sithe: close synaptic if it's open and open a terminal, then run "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager" then go to "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver"
[10:26] <stdin> sauvin: ubuntu users should be in #ubuntu, not #kubuntu
[10:27] <sauvin> k
[10:27] <Sithe> stdin: enable or disable?
[10:27] <stdin> enable
[10:27] <Sithe> Alright
[10:27] <Sithe> It was already enabled
[10:28] <stdin> then it should be installed
[10:28] <melomane> Assid: do u have a link to a guide about it. ? i am new to kubunu
[10:28] <pag> !fstab | melomane
[10:28] <ubotu> melomane: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:28] <Assid> melomane:  a simple google on /etc/fstab nfs   should reveal it
[10:28] <stdin> Sithe: if it doesn't work then the driver doesn't support the card
[10:28] <Assid> or you can check the above
[10:29] <melomane> Assid ubotu pag : thanks a million
[10:29] <Sithe> stdin: Alright. If that doesn't work ill just install the ATI driver
[10:29] <stdin> Sithe: no, that IS the ATI driver
[10:29] <Sithe> stdin: ORLY
[10:29] <stdin> Sithe: if it doesn't work you're stuck
[10:30] <Sithe> stdin: I meant the one from the ATI website
[10:30] <stdin> Sithe: yes, it's the same one
[10:30] <Sithe> stdin: Nope. I used that one earlier and it worked..
[10:30] <Sithe> stdin: but I changed to fglrdx and it didn;t work
[10:32] <stdin> Sithe: erm, well it IS the same driver whether you believe it or not.
[10:32] <Sithe> stdin: Hrm. I have been told by many people in #ubuntu and #cedega that its not.
[10:32] <stdin> Sithe: then that lie
[10:32] <Sithe> stdin: orly
[10:33] <stdin> Sithe: the xorg-driver-fglrx driver is the ATI binary proprietary driver
[10:34] <Bauldrick> anyone know what to do to get camcorder working in kino - I get raw1394 kernel not loaded (but lsmod shows it is?)
[10:34] <Bauldrick> or something other than kino
[10:34] <stdin> Sithe: if you installed the one from ATIs site and didn't remove it properly then that's probably why the packaged version isn't working
[10:34] <Sithe> stdin: I think thats the problem
[10:35] <Assid> stdin: you think someones gonna update those repositories?
[10:35] <Sithe> stdin: Someone said ATI drivers permanantly fuck up linux.. And that you have to re-install
[10:35] <dromer> does anyone care to help my with my dhcp-problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506868
[10:36] <stdin> Sithe: you'll have to uninstall the ATI.com driver and the linux-restricted-modules packages, then reinstall the linux-restricted-modules packages again
[10:37] <Sithe> stdin: Can you give me a walkthrough on how to do that
[10:37] <Sithe> stdin: Please
[10:37] <stdin> Assid: they would only be updated for a security fix once a version of ubuntu is released
[10:37] <stdin> Sithe: I can't I don't use any ATI hardware so have never installed the driver, so I don't know how to uninstall it
[10:38] <Sithe> stdin: Orly
[10:38] <stdin> try asking in #ubuntu
[10:39] <stdin> more people = more eyes
[10:39] <Sithe> stdin: I am lol
[10:41] <mumificirani> hey guys
[10:41] <mumificirani> is there anyway to change the whole kubuntu to default settings
[10:41] <mumificirani> ?
[10:42] <stdin> move your ~/.kde dir to kde.backup, then all the settings will be reset
[10:42] <mumificirani> hm...
[10:43] <mumificirani> and how do I do that :|?
[10:43] <pag> mumificirani, mv .kde .kde-backup   maybe?
[10:43] <mumificirani> ok ok :)
[10:43] <stdin> from konsole "mv .kde kde.backup", from konqueror: View > show hidden
[10:44] <mumificirani> will all the packages  be deleted?
[10:45] <stdin> no
[10:45] <mumificirani> ok
[10:45] <mumificirani> thanks
[10:45] <stdin> just your users settings
[10:45] <stdin> well, they'll all be backedup, not deleted
[10:45] <mumificirani> ok
[10:45] <mumificirani> I did the command
[10:45] <mumificirani> now ctrl - shift - bksp?
[10:45] <stdin> no, logout and back in, and you should have default
[10:45] <mumificirani> kk
[10:45] <mumificirani> thanks
[10:52] <ubuntu__> hello... i was using ubuntu, and my pc halted... i tryed to reboot but it appears an error: the filesystem can be only accessed on read-only and acuses bad blocks... how i fix it? (i`m using live cd)
[10:54] <stdin> ubuntu__: what partition is the root on?
[10:54] <ubuntu__> stdin /dev/hdc1
[10:55] <stdin> ubuntu__: sudo fsck -c /dev/hdc1
[10:56] <naxa> hello
[10:56] <stdin> !hi
[10:56] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:56] <ubuntu__> stdin i need umount the device..
[10:56] <ubuntu__> i`m going to reboot pc, brb
[10:56] <stdin> ubuntu__: you don't need to reboot
[10:57] <stdin> ubuntu__: sudo umount /dev/hdc1
[10:57] <ubuntu__> thank you... fsck running.
[10:58] <ubuntu__> error on 5013505 (attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while reading inode and blocks bitmaps
[10:58] <ubuntu__> ignore?
[10:59] <stdin> what are the options
[10:59] <ubuntu__> y
[10:59] <ubuntu__> =/
[10:59] <ubuntu__> it`s the same error appears when i boot pc
[11:00] <stdin> what are the options it gives you? you said "ignore" was one
[11:00] <ubuntu__> ignore <y>
[11:00] <ubuntu__> i did press n, but the fsck stopped
[11:00] <stdin> ok, just keep pressing y then
[11:00] <ubuntu__> force rewrite? y
[11:01] <ubuntu__> checking =(
[11:01] <ubuntu__> i guess my hd is really bad
[11:01] <Assid> stdin: thats not the official repositories
[11:01] <ubuntu__> but i was using fine 10 min ago
[11:02] <stdin> Assid: ?
[11:03] <Assid> stdin: regarding the repositories.. compiz
[11:04] <waylandbill_> is compiz even stable yet?
[11:04] <stdin> Assid: like I said, they are in the gutsy repos, so I use the official repos (as I run gutsy)
[11:06] <naxa> hi can you help me?
[11:06] <stdin> !ask
[11:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:06] <naxa> Easy question, how much space will I need for a kubuntu?
[11:07] <naxa> I have 40gb, but I want two distributions and a 3rd partition for the other data like music, etc.
[11:07] <pag> naxa, 7GB will be enough for /
[11:07] <stdin> depends on what you install, the minimum is 2GB but 10 should be fine
[11:07] <naxa> I like experiments so i'm afraid 10 gb for each distro won't be enough, what do you think?
[11:07] <waylandbill_> naxa: you need 4 or so just to install, but I'd go with 10
[11:07] <naxa> So 10 is enough for doing experiments with all the programs like KDE4 and so.
[11:08] <naxa> Numerous others...
[11:08] <naxa> OK then I'll use 10, thank you. :)
[11:09] <waylandbill_> it's been a while since I've seen a 40gb hdd. usually it's 80 or bigger. My laptop even has 60. :-)
[11:10] <stdin> my laptop has 80, but I specifically looked for one with at least that
[11:10] <naxa> It's actually a 120gb
[11:10] <naxa> But only 40 is free.
[11:10] <naxa> Others already contain important data.
[11:11] <naxa> Actually I wanna buy a 250.
[11:11] <stdin> you have 80GB of "important" data :p
[11:11] <naxa> But my long-term desire is up to 5 tb.
[11:11] <Sergiu1> hello
[11:11] <naxa> Actually I have let's say 80+30+120 yeah 230 gb of important data,
[11:11] <naxa> and I'm out of space.
[11:11] <cloakable> naxa: 5tb will fill up too :P
[11:12] <Sergiu1> The following packages have unmet dependencies: kio-sysinfo: Depends: libhd13 but it is not installable
[11:12] <Sergiu1> how to resolve dependencies?
[11:12] <naxa> Yeah I know. I need 4 tb for a server mirroring.
[11:12] <waylandbill_> I can't figure out stuff to fill an 80 let alone have 80 gb of important data. lol
[11:12] <naxa> The other for personal purposes.
[11:12] <Sergiu1> hello
[11:12] <naxa> Well the mirror is also for personal purposes but never mind.
[11:12] <naxa> Well let's say it's not only mine, but friend's data, family's data, etc.
[11:12] <arun> are there any good font viewing apps for kubuntu?
[11:13] <naxa> All I need is 5 tb storage and high bandwitch... :)
[11:13] <pag> Sergiu1, it's in feisty's Universe (dunno about previous releases)
[11:13] <naxa> No no no just joking.
[11:13] <stdin> Sergiu1: how are you installing that? dpkg ?
[11:13] <pag> !info libhd13
[11:13] <ubotu> libhd13: Hardware identification system library. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.11-3 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[11:13] <Sergiu1> stdin: with kubuntu package manager
[11:14] <Sergiu1> kubunt package menu
[11:14] <waylandbill_> you mean kpackage?
[11:15] <Sergiu1> don't know
[11:15] <stdin> !info kio-sysinfo
[11:15] <ubotu> Package kio-sysinfo does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:15] <stdin> Sergiu1: kio-sysinfo is not in the repositories, so where did you get it from?
[11:16] <Sergiu1> stdin: www.apps-kde.org
[11:16] <Sergiu1> kde-apps.org
[11:16] <naxa> oh no
[11:16] <naxa> ubiquity closed unexpectedly
[11:16] <naxa> what the hack
[11:16] <naxa> with such a slow partitioning method
[11:17] <stdin> Sergiu1: open konsole and type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[11:17] <naxa> oh no...
[11:18] <Sergiu1> Evil_DuDe: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:18] <Sergiu1> ...
[11:18] <Sergiu1> probaly adept is working
[11:18] <stdin> Sergiu1: close the application you have installing kio-sysinfo
[11:19] <anti> hello, where stores fail2ban banned ips?
[11:19] <arun> anyone?
[11:20] <Sergiu1> stdin: closed already
[11:20] <Sergiu1> need to look in ps aux
[11:20] <pag> arun, the one that is in kcontrol?
[11:21] <arun> pag: isn't there an external font viewing application?
[11:21] <stdin> konqueror has a built in font viewer...
[11:21] <pag> arun, I don't know - I've been really happy with the one I mentioned
[11:22] <arun> pag: I like it too, but I don't like going to kcontrol>appearance>fonts everytime
[11:22] <Sergiu1> stdin: don't understand, (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:22] <Sergiu1> i closed all pps
[11:22] <Sergiu1> apps*
[11:22] <stdin> Sergiu1: try "sudo fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[11:23] <pag> arun, fonts:/ kioslave works too... (with KFontView)
[11:23] <Bauldrick> my cusor disappears if I switch user?
[11:23] <Sergiu1> /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  10438
[11:23] <Sergiu1> :)
[11:23] <Sergiu1> to shut down this pid ?
[11:24] <Sergiu1> root     10438 10.0  8.9  59348 22148 ?        Sl   12:28   0:02 aptitude
[11:24] <stdin> yeah
[11:24] <saylar> hey guys
[11:24] <Sergiu1> ok
[11:24] <stdin> Sergiu1: then do "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[11:24] <arun> pag: kioslave?
[11:24] <pag> arun, just type fonts:/  to konq's addressbar
[11:25] <Sergiu1> stdin: thanks, sudo aptitude install -f resolve dependencies..
[11:25] <Sergiu1> need to write down this cmds :)
[11:26] <arun> pag: i did, but now i just see the fonts
[11:26] <arun> i want to see them using the kcontrol interface
[11:26] <arun> list of fonts on the left
[11:26] <arun> and preview on the right
[11:26] <stdin> Sergiu1: you won't need them for long, in gutsy we'll use gdebi to install debs, that resolves dependencies for you
[11:27] <Sergiu1> :)
[11:27] <Sergiu1> good news
[11:28] <pag> arun, ok.. dunno then, sry.
[11:28] <Bauldrick> how do i stop the curor disappearing if I switch user?
[11:28] <arun> pag: alright.. thanks a lot! do you know if there's any way i can view that app outside of kcontrol?
[11:29] <pag> arun, kcmshell kcmfontinst
[11:30] <arun> ?
[11:30] <arun> where do i enter that
[11:30] <pag> arun, ie. alt+f2
[11:30] <arun> ah
[11:30] <arun> alright
[11:31] <arun> excellent
[11:31] <arun> thanks!
[11:36] <Assid> err how do i force cached dns to expire?
[11:36] <Assid> im not running my own bind
[11:39] <radanter> Hi, can anyone point me to a list of Kubuntu releases showing the kernel version for each release?
[11:40] <stdin> radanter: look on packages.ubuntu.com
[11:41] <radanter> stdin: ok, thanks
[11:41] <Assid> stdin: know how to flush dns?
[11:41] <stdin> radanter: http://packages.ubuntu.com/linux-image-386 < should help
[11:42] <pag> Assid, just a guess: restart your networking interface?
[11:42] <stdin> Assid: I don't know, never needed to
[11:42] <Assid> pag: didnt work
[11:43] <Assid> i gotta install nscd to restart nscd?
[11:43] <khaije1> !vfat
[11:43] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:43] <radanter> stdin: hmm, thanks, but it only goes back as far as dapper. I was wondering if any versions used the 2.4 kernel
[11:45] <stdin> radanter: no :P ubuntu only started in 2005
[11:45] <stdin> radanter: erm, 2004
[11:45] <khaije1> when i fsck my usbstick it says "Both FATs appear to be corrupt. Giving Up."
[11:45] <khaije1> how can i fix this?
[11:45] <Assid> the rain dance
[11:45] <radanter> stdin: ok, thanks again
[11:46] <Assid> okay lack of sleep makes me wanna do crazy things
[11:46] <radanter> stdin: any idea when the next LTS version will be released?
[11:46] <Assid> one of my boxes is dying
[11:46] <stdin> radanter: yeah, 8.04 (gutsy+1)
[11:46] <khaije1> rain dance?
[11:47] <radanter> stdin: cool, will it have a nice upgrade from 6.06? The current versions don't seem to.
[11:47] <naxa> hey all... I hate swap. I've got 1 gb memory. but i hate swap it eats my disk space for no use.
[11:47] <stdin> radanter: that's yet to be figured out :p
[11:47] <stdin> radanter: it should do thou
[11:47] <naxa> how much swap should i add?
[11:47] <naxa> min is 250 and i thought about 700 but
[11:48] <naxa> maybe 250 is far too much anyway...
[11:48] <naxa> give me a hint...
[11:48] <radanter> stdin: great, thanks!!
[11:48] <stdin> naxa: standard should be about 1GB, it's recommended to go 1-1.5xRAM
[11:49] <stdin> and, tbh 1GB isn't _that_ much
[11:49] <naxa> I know, but why
[11:49] <naxa> i know this rule
[11:49] <naxa> but why
[11:49] <naxa> i cannot understand
[11:50] <stdin> it depends what exactly you are going to be doing with the system
[11:50] <naxa> If I'd got 250 mb of ram now you would say 300 mb is ok
[11:50] <naxa> why
[11:50] <naxa> i see
[11:50] <naxa> so what is swap for
[11:50] <naxa> what it is good for?
[11:50] <khaije1> naxa: it has to do with maximum efficience in addressing the swap memory
[11:50] <naxa> i actually don't care about 3 secs
[11:50] <stdin> naxa: when you run out of RAM it uses swap
[11:50] <khaije1> since addressing swap uses ram
[11:50] <naxa> But it is nonsense
[11:50] <khaije1> haha
[11:50] <naxa> how possibly would i ran out of 1 gb of ram,
[11:51] <naxa> when my previous computer has 192 mb and 250 mb swap?
[11:51] <naxa> and it worked
[11:51] <stdin> naxa: windows has the same, except it uses a file
[11:51] <naxa> i know
[11:51] <naxa> i turned it off
[11:51] <naxa> i hate it
[11:51] <lockd> Linux can too, and it's easier to resize as a file
[11:51] <khaije1> stdin: linux can use a file to actually, the partition is just better
[11:51] <stdin> naxa: hey, if you don't want it don't use it
[11:51] <naxa> all problem i got that photoshop 7 asks me why I don't have swap on
[11:51] <stdin> khaije1: yes, I know
[11:52] <khaije1> stdin: i figured :] 
[11:52] <naxa> ok then... what about this:
[11:52] <lockd> khaije1: if you are swapping with say 2gigs of ram, you are already in bad shape
[11:52] <naxa> i choose 300 mb of swap.
[11:52] <naxa> for 1 gb memory.
[11:52] <naxa> and if anything goes wrong,
[11:52] <lockd> you will not be able to suspend to disk
[11:52] <naxa> i configure swap to be in a file.
[11:52] <naxa> how does it sounds?
[11:52] <khaije1> lockd: it totally depends on usage factors
[11:52] <stdin> I have 1.2 GB swap, because I have 1GB RAM and use hibernate
[11:52] <khaije1> for a server 2g maybe not be much at all
[11:52] <naxa> i see.
[11:52] <naxa> so it's for hibernate. :)
[11:53] <stdin> for me, yes
[11:53] <naxa> yeah. but it's a dekstop computer
[11:53] <naxa> i see, thank you for info .:)
[11:53] <khaije1> naxa: it doubles as hibernate, thats not it's primary use
[11:53] <stdin> if you edit photos or video, you may find you do NEED more swap
[11:53] <stdin> it takes a LOT of memory, sometimes more than 1GB
[11:54] <naxa> can you tell if a small swap will result in very significant speed decrasing? for example 15 sec instead of 1 sec
[11:54] <naxa> yeah it's true
[11:55] <naxa> ok then please convince me. i've got a dekstop computer. why should i possibly use swap. i'm interested in numbers ("100 sec instead of 10"), and things like "it simply won't work that way". i know you can't say exactly numbers so let's say "about 3x times slower" or so.
[11:56] <khaije1> naxa: lockd: it can increase performance, but imho it's most useful because it adds robustness
[11:56] <naxa> hm
[11:58] <naxa> ok so i can use it for hibernate, video editing...
[11:59] <naxa> greater server perfomance
[12:00] <naxa> i still don't understand, except hibernate, why should it be so big? I mean a comp with 500 mb ram and 1 gb swap will be faster than a comp with 1 gb ram but 500 mb swap?
[12:00] <naxa> all else is the same
[12:00] <naxa> i know guys you're tired about this but please answer this last question :)
[12:01] <naxa> hm what happens
[12:01] <yrg> more ram is better than more swap
[12:02] <naxa> oh. so 500 mb of swap is enough for me.
[12:02] <naxa> will anything completely disfunction except hibernate becouse of too small swap?
[12:02] <naxa> Yeah i know this is last one + 1 question...
[12:02] <naxa> but anyway i've got my answer so thank you
[12:02] <yrg> I think everything would work...
[12:02] <naxa> ok
[12:02] <yrg> Even hibernate
[12:02] <naxa> ok
[12:03] <naxa> so if it is actually faster anyway, and everything will work,
[12:03] <yrg> My laptop has 1.5GB RAM and 1 GB swap and hibernates fins
[12:03] <yrg> fine
[12:03] <naxa> i don't need swap just to get _more_ faster comp.
[12:03] <naxa> i see
[12:03] <naxa> thank you very much
[12:03] <stdin> you know there is a ##linux for general questions too
[12:03] <yrg> np
[12:03] <naxa> oh... sorry about this :D
[12:03] <naxa> thank you
[12:03] <stdin> more people in there
[12:03] <naxa> ok
[12:03] <naxa> sorry about that and thank you
[12:03] <stdin> probably know more than me :P
[12:04] <stdin> (only probably) :)
[12:05] <khaije1> naxa: sorry, i had my head in a different window, do you have the info you were looking for?
[12:06] <naxa> well i've heard that 1 gb ram + 500 swap is better than 500 ram and 1 gb swap. if it actually faster, and only _not that much_ faster, and everything will actually work, then i'll use less swap. Am i right?
[12:08] <yeniklasor> How can I install to openoffice another language support? I downloaded "OOo_2.2.1_LinuxIntel_langpack_generic_tr.tar.gz" Now how can I install it?
[12:08] <khaije1> naxa: swap is a good thing and a central feature to modern operating systems, it makes your system more stable under load and also increases performance (though not dramaticly)
[12:09] <khaije1> so you want to use it, the only question is how much is actually useful
[12:09] <stdin> v0taguz: there are openoffice.org-l10n-* packages
[12:09] <khaije1> for a desktop system, I would look at how much disk space is available and at how fast the disk access is, and go based on that
[12:10] <naxa> i thought i will use 590 swap. i've got 1 gb ram.
[12:10] <khaije1> but generally you will be just fine with 500mb, you won't be punished by your computer for using too much or too little, so if you want to be conservative i'd say start small and leave room to grow if you like
[12:11] <khaije1> ( i should say 500mb or more )
[12:11] <naxa> ok so 590 is ok
[12:11] <chx> hi. where are KDE session data stored? It always restarts my session and i would like to change the switches of one app
[12:11] <naxa> sorry for actually ruining the room :)
[12:11] <khaije1> naxa: sure, no worries :-)
[12:11] <naxa> I've got another question. is there any way to get rid of /media?
[12:12] <khaije1> naxa: its the questions that everybody takes for granted that are the hardest to get answers too sometimes :-)
[12:12] <naxa> :)
[12:12] <khaije1> naxa: it's possible, though i can't think of any situation where it would be a goog idea
[12:12] <khaije1> *good
[12:12] <yrg> I remember some years ago, there wasn't a /media
[12:13] <stdin> why would you want/need to?
[12:13] <naxa> well i just don't like that when i type /m and hit tab, nothing happens
[12:13] <yrg> everything had to be mounted/unmountes manually and was in /mnt
[12:13] <khaije1> haha
[12:13] <yrg> type /me<tab>
[12:13] <naxa> it's too muchj
[12:13] <yrg> argh...
[12:13] <naxa> either mnt or media, i wanna get rid of.
[12:13] <kosch> mohoooin
[12:13] <stdin> FSH says that /mnt is for static or network mounts and /media is for removable devices
[12:14] <naxa> the problem is that I cannot be fast enough if i want to reconfigure my habits
[12:14] <naxa> it takes a lot of time
[12:14] <yrg> That's why I removed Konquest. Cause I wanna start Konqueror by entering konq
[12:14] <naxa> the problem is not that it's a char longer, it's that i have to think on it
[12:14] <khaije1> naxa: these are things that you want to leave it place, because there are a lot of things that rely on them, it will save you *alot* of time and headache to leave them there
[12:14] <yrg> naxa: You'll get used to that...
[12:14] <naxa> ok so it's faster to reconfigure habits. I understood. thank you. :)
[12:15] <stdin> naxa: you can (I guess) get rid of /mnt, as it's not used automatically, a lot of things use /media automatically
[12:15] <naxa> ok. that's great. so... no more stupid questions of mine. :)
[12:15] <naxa> thank you for all the kindness and patience and information!
[12:15] <naxa> Now I go and konquer my installation...
[12:15] <khaije1> naxa: if you ask nicely the people in #bash may show you how to remove those folders from the tab-completion
[12:16] <stdin> Kubuntu = Towards Humanity
[12:16] <naxa> huh great thank you :)
[12:16] <khaije1> that is a better way to handle it than deleting system files/folders, there are ways to accomplish whatever you like, but some are better than others
[12:17] <khaije1> good luck, and let us know if you have other questions
[12:17] <naxa> ok
[12:17] <naxa> actually i have one but it's not unix conserned... at least not that much.
[12:17] <naxa> it's irc.
[12:17] <chx> To answer my own question, ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc stores the comamnd and arguments are comma separated.
[12:17] <khaije1> k
[12:18] <naxa> you write to me like this: "naxa: blabla" and i got a warning that you wrote for me.
[12:18] <naxa> how can you do this? Just start the sentence with my name?
[12:18] <Daxana> Hi..All, I am new bie using kubuntu
[12:18] <naxa> or it's a command?
[12:18] <stdin> naxa: the client does that, not us :)
[12:18] <yrg> Your IRC client detects your name
[12:18] <naxa> so if i write...
[12:19] <stdin> it happens when ever anyone says your nickneme naxa
[12:19] <Daxana> How to install software from cdrom ? I open file..and don't know what's to do
[12:19] <khaije1> naxa: yup, it's a way of alerting an individual in the midst of many conversations, it's a feature of your irc client, and it is used to help communications
[12:19] <naxa> so it's automatic and nothing to do with anything except my client
[12:19] <stdin> yep
[12:19] <yrg> naxa: yep
[12:19] <naxa> great thank you. big myth unfolded
[12:19] <yrg> you can switch it on and off in the option and even set it to react to other words...
[12:19] <khaije1> yr client it listening for it, this is normal, most of ours are set that way too
[12:19] <naxa> i think someone else wanted to ask something
[12:19] <stdin> khaije1: depends on the software
[12:20] <naxa> Daxana i mean
[12:20] <yrg> Daxana: What software?
[12:20] <khaije1> pre-empitve qualifier: "most"
[12:20] <Daxana> ampache
[12:21] <stdin> Daxana: ampache? you mean apache?
[12:21] <yrg> Why don't you install it through Adept?
[12:21] <Daxana> stdin: I got a cd, ampache.
[12:22] <stdin> what's ampache?
[12:22] <naxa> another Q. I want grub to be on my sda, not hd0 or any MBR. I want it on the begining of my partition. how can I achieve this?
[12:22] <naxa> i mean for example sda8
[12:22] <naxa> default is (hd0) for this
[12:23] <naxa> i don't know grub i don't know what to write here
[12:23] <naxa> and if it's possible actually
[12:23] <stdin> sda8 would be (hd0,7)
[12:23] <naxa> well actually I've got a hda, too
[12:23] <khaije1> i don't understand the question.... :-/
[12:23] <naxa> i don't know if sda is hd0 or not
[12:23] <naxa> how can i check?
[12:24] <Daxana> Isdin; It is like multimedia thing
[12:24] <yrg> I found "ampache a web based audio streaming application" Is it that you wanna install?
[12:24] <naxa> what is more i've got a hdd which is not in this time 'couse it's got errors
[12:24] <naxa> but it don't plays now
[12:24] <naxa> doesnt :)
[12:25] <yrg> Daxana: Is that file you want to install a .tar.gz?
[12:25] <stdin> naxa: it'll say in /boot/grub/device.map
[12:25] <Daxana> yrg: yes. something like that. Actually the point is I learn install something from cd,
[12:25] <naxa> stdin: well.. i don't know this on the live cd...
[12:25] <yrg> Daxana: .tar.gz is much like .zip files. You have to unpack them first and then install the contents
[12:25] <Daxana> yrg: yes correct ext is tar.gz.
[12:26] <naxa> stdin: livecd doesn't have grub..
[12:26] <yrg> So, erm... go to your Konsole, and type "tar -xzvf /media/wherever/your-file/is"
[12:26] <naxa> stdin: or at least it doesn't have /boot/grub. i cannot check...
[12:26] <Daxana> yrg: which's root the best to encrypt it?
[12:26] <yrg> ??
[12:26] <stdin> naxa: you should be able yo put in the device name /dev/whatever1... too
[12:27] <naxa> oh i see
[12:27] <naxa> stdin: thanks
[12:27] <naxa> I hope it will work
[12:27] <stdin> Daxana: a tar.gz is an archive, you need to extract it to somewhere
[12:28] <naxa> wow... it says it's failed to make an ext3 on /dev/sda6. how is this possible
[12:29] <Daxana> stdin : It does not have to  extract to specify root ?,
[12:30] <stdin> Daxana: have a look what's in there first, it may have an installer (normally does)
[12:31] <naxa> i cannot understand
[12:31] <naxa> it doesn't work
[12:32] <naxa> how is this possibly possible
[12:32] <naxa> uh-uh... it's no good...
[12:33] <yrg> wt* was that?
[12:35] <naxa> it's no good.
[12:36] <naxa> i made a partition table. it won't work
[12:36] <naxa> i'm very tired...
[12:36] <naxa> how is it possible that changes are allowed but won't work...
[12:36] <naxa> ok....
[12:36] <naxa> i'll try next time
[12:37] <naxa> thanks for your time bests bye
[12:40] <naxa> uh
[12:40] <naxa> help me.
[12:41] <naxa> it's getting worse :D
[12:41] <naxa> actually I've just formatted my ntfs as ext3
[12:41] <naxa> UM... I wanna undo this...
[12:41] <naxa> is that impossible..
[12:41] <naxa> ?
[12:41] <naxa> ntfs has a copy of boot sektor on the middle
[12:42] <naxa> i mean.. i don't know ext3
[12:42] <naxa> i don't know how it works
[12:43] <naxa> i don't know if there is a chance of restoring something or there isn'T
[12:43] <naxa> for example if it rewrites the whole disk than i guess there is no chance
[12:43] <naxa> but if it rewrites the beginning, maybe there is...
[12:43] <naxa> this partition table sucks anyway
[12:46] <naxa> ok... everything collapsed...
[12:46] <naxa> i'm tired of this, and leave... bye
[12:53] <spax> high
[12:54] <spax> kann mir jemand helfen?
[12:54] <spax> hab schwierigkeiten meinen hp einzurichten
[12:54] <spax> hp scanjet 4070
[12:54] <stdin> !de | spax
[12:54] <ubotu> spax: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:04] <miles> is everyone idle?
[01:05] <harmental> any xemacs-users in here?
[01:05] <harmental> could you be kind enough to share screenshots of xemacs...
[01:07] <miles> kate > xemacs
[01:08] <miles> cool?
[01:08] <miles> thats what jon wilson always says, "cool?"
[01:08] <miles> "i love bill gates, cool?" - jon "i love bill gates" wilson
[01:08] <miles> you know what i mean harmental?
[01:11] <harmental> kate is not quite good for using R (+ESS)
[01:11] <miles> what is this R(+ESS)?
[01:11] <miles> you mean RSS?
[01:11] <harmental> miles: i have found no replacement for that so far....it is incredibily powerful...
[01:11] <harmental> miles: no..i mean ESS
[01:11] <miles> what is this ESS?
[01:12] <miles> !ESS
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <harmental> miles: http://ess.r-project.org/
[01:12] <miles> harmental, thanks
[01:12] <harmental> that's called reproductible research approach....
[01:13] <harmental> i use R ..but i am sure i can be donde with other languages...
[01:13] <miles> ah interesting, my mom would like ESS, she programs in SAS
[01:13] <miles> to bad she doesnt know what linux is
[01:13] <harmental> SAS = S?
[01:13] <miles> SAS = statistical analysis someting or another
[01:13] <harmental> miles: that is not an issue....it works great under windoze to......
[01:14] <miles> oic
[01:14] <miles> ill tell her to check it out
[01:14] <harmental> xemacs + ess + R
[01:14] <miles> something about running gnu software on windows just doesnt seem right to me though
[01:14] <harmental> there is plenty of tutorials out there....
[01:14] <harmental> miles: well ....i you are a purist i guess not....
[01:15] <miles> so are you mad at me that i dont like to run gnu software on windows?
[01:15] <harmental> for me is a matter of practical solutions....
[01:15] <harmental> miles: of course not!
[01:15] <miles> haha
[01:18] <twosouls82> when I run konsole from kde4 beta 1, like suggested on the news page (either with the exports or in Xephyr), I get this error:
[01:18] <twosouls82> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server
[01:18] <twosouls82> I tried launching dbus manually; no luck
[01:19] <stdin> twosouls82: does it still work?
[01:19] <twosouls82> stdin: nope, a total crash follows
[01:19] <twosouls82> :)
[01:19] <miles> i think this is why kde4 is still beta
[01:19] <twosouls82> do'h
[01:19] <miles> zing!
[01:19] <stdin> twosouls82: report that in #kubuntu-devel
[01:20] <twosouls82> stdin: thanks
[01:21] <miles> are you guys going to get mad if i ask a cpu related question?!
[01:21] <miles> cause im dying to know the answer
[01:23] <miles> ...
[01:23] <miles> when you compile the kernel, you can specify what processor family you belong to
[01:23] <miles> does anyone know what family the core 2 duo belongs to?
[01:24] <miles> ive heard p4, ive heard pentium m
[01:25] <stdin> miles: probably pentium 4
[01:26] <aguitel> hello ,where are Printers in the main menu?
[01:34] <zipper> aguitel, it's not. "System Settings" is in the main menu though, and from there you can find "printers"
[01:39] <harmental> hey guys..how can i improve xemacs bitmapping....
[01:40] <harmental> fonts and menus are "uglyly" displayed....
[01:41] <runlevelten> #xemacs
[01:42] <harmental> when i launch xemacs i get this message: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[01:43] <harmental> any ideas?
[01:43] <runlevelten> harmental: I'd ask in #xemacs.
[01:44] <harmental> runlevelten: not such an active channel.. :o(
[01:46] <runlevelten> #emacs generally is, I know *some* people use it in there
[01:46] <runlevelten> I dislike it, tbh, I think it looks repulsive :)
[01:46] <runlevelten> I love my emacs though -nw/nox ftw
[01:47] <runlevelten> I occasionally run it in gnome-terminal when I want truetype fonts in it.
[01:59] <_da> hi
[01:59] <twosouls82> hi _da
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> hey
[02:01] <gonssal> hi
[02:02] <gonssal> why do cups keep asking for authentication even if i'm root?
[02:02] <gonssal> and even if i try to authenticate as an user that is member of the lpadmin group
[02:04] <_da> twosouls82 hey, I went to another channel, sorry...
[02:05] <gonssal> anyone?
[02:05] <_da> hey
[02:06] <twosouls82> _da: np :) I am all over the windows/tabs myself too
[02:06] <_da> alright
[02:06] <_da> fantastic  nick...
[02:07] <_da> twosouls82, what does it mean?
[02:07] <twosouls82> _da: you mean me.. then you're the first =)
[02:08] <twosouls82> _da: what do you think it means?
[02:08] <_da> man and wife, boy and girl...
[02:09] <twosouls82> _da: hehehe nice too..
[02:09] <_da> or twins
[02:09] <aguitel> anyone installed printer Lexmark x 1185 ?
[02:09] <sam__> hey what is error code INOMEM?
[02:09] <twosouls82> _da: two souls = metaphor for schizofrene (latin for splitten personality) not that I have one
[02:10] <_da> sam__,are you also sambozo?
[02:11] <zipper> How do one specify the server port in xchat?
[02:12] <_da> twosouls82, ok, but the 82?
[02:12] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[02:12] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:12] <twosouls82> _da: my build
[02:12] <twosouls82> Tm_T: you're right
[02:12] <Tm_T> (:
[02:13] <_da> hehehe
[02:13] <Tm_T> feel free to join #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:13] <_da> ok
[02:15] <Tm_T> zipper: does xchat manual help?
[02:15] <zipper> Tm_T, found it, thanks
[02:15] <Tm_T> (:
[02:39] <[ifr0g] > how is the public key matched with the package to be installed ?
[02:57] <kuajo> hola
[02:57] <kuajo> alguien me ayuda?
[03:01] <trekdanne> !es
[03:01] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:03] <ksivaji> !lamp
[03:03] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:04] <pekuja> how about LARP with Ruby and Postgres? :-P
[03:04] <miles> pekuja: larp = live action role player
[03:05] <miles> aka those people that dress up and act like they are in an RPG video game
[03:05] <miles> but i like it
[03:05] <pekuja> ermn, yes, that's the joke
[03:05] <miles> o! touchette
[03:05] <miles> it made me chuckle
[03:05] <miles> i didnt see that emoticon
[03:06] <miles> do you guys like flex?
[03:06] <pekuja> hrmn, "act like they are in an RPG video game" is a bit inaccurate, no?
[03:06] <runlevelten> very inaccurate.
[03:09] <miles> i dont kno any personally
[03:09] <miles> its the only way i can describe it though
[03:10] <miles> what is the typical default run level for ubuntu?
[03:10] <miles> is it 5?
[03:11] <miles> help
[03:12] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:12] <pekuja> miles, I think the most important inaccuracy with your definition is that LARPing doesn't derive from *video* games, but from pen-and-paper role playing games
[03:12] <ksivaji> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of automake1.4:
[03:12] <ksivaji>  automake1.4 depends on autoconf; however:
[03:12] <ksivaji>   Package autoconf is not installed.
[03:12] <ksivaji> dpkg: error processing automake1.4 (--configure):
[03:12] <ksivaji>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:12] <ksivaji> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:12] <ksivaji>  automake1.4
[03:12] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$
[03:12] <ksivaji> sorry
[03:13] <miles> pekuja, true
[03:13] <miles> how do you find out your runlevel?
[03:13] <miles> runlevelten, do you kno?
[03:14] <thehcdreamer> Hello, can I open a task manager o similar with ubuntu?
[03:14] <thehcdreamer> *kubuntu
[03:14] <genii> miles: In ubuntu if the runlevel is not 0,1 or 6 it doesn't matter, 2 to 5 are the same
[03:14] <m477> hello how format memory disk form mobile fon ?
[03:14] <ksivaji> genii help me dpkg error
[03:15] <m477> hello how format memory disk form mobile phone ?
[03:15] <miles> yea, but lets say i wanted to run a script at start up, would i put it in the correct /etc/rc_.d or would i put it in /etc/init.d?
[03:15] <pekuja> what's a "memory disk form"?
[03:16] <m477> pekuja: microSD flesh ~~
[03:16] <genii> ksivaji: If you are using the same kubuntu/ubuntu as before when apache2 was giving dpkg errors, it's not worth trying to debug it. You needed a reinstall.
[03:17] <W8TAH> hi folks:  is there a way to get the icons in the area at the right end of the toolbar (the equivalent of the systray) to take up less space? like make a double row or something?
[03:17] <ksivaji> genii ho that is not easy
[03:17] <genii> miles unless it needs to execute in a specific order relative to other scripts like pre network or so, init.d usually is fine
[03:18] <Df_Yz> Please,tell me how i can see list of the channels (in this server)
[03:18] <Df_Yz> :)
[03:18] <m477> pekuja: so do you know
[03:18] <m477> ?
[03:19] <genii> Df_Yz: If Konversation use F5 key
[03:19] <Df_Yz> thanks
[03:19] <pekuja> m477, no I'm not really sure... I would think that you could use mkdosfs or something
[03:20] <pekuja> I would guess that there's an easy GUI tool to do that too though
[03:23] <m477> anyone can tell me how format flash disk ?
[03:26] <anandanbu> i have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in ubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png
[03:30] <Frack-Hesse> !upgrade > Frack-Hesse
[03:30] <anandanbu> i have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in kubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png
[03:30] <Frack-Hesse> hm
[03:31] <Frack-Hesse> this "tutorial" says, i should use the "update manager" which i think is a gnome application. is there a kde equivalent?
[03:34] <jluc> yo tous
[03:35] <trekdanne> Frack-Hesse: adept_update
[03:35] <Frack-Hesse> srsly? :
[03:35] <Frack-Hesse> :D
[03:35] <Frack-Hesse> i'll try
[03:36] <Frack-Hesse> nope ._.
[03:36] <Assid> stdin: ytou there?
[03:36] <Frack-Hesse> do i have to install it first? :x
[03:37] <Frack-Hesse> trekdanne: what do u mean? ._.
[03:38] <trekdanne> try pressing alt-f2 and type "adept_updater"
[03:38] <trekdanne> forgot the "r"
[03:38] <m477> anyone can tell me how format flash disk ?
[03:39] <Frack-Hesse> trekdanne: now it works. thx :D
[03:41] <Frack-Hesse> hm
[03:41] <Frack-Hesse> :/
[03:41] <trekdanne> m477: mkdosfs?
[03:41] <Frack-Hesse> that wasn't what i was searching for =(
[03:42] <trekdanne> Frack-Hesse: hmm sorry don't that familiar with ubuntu
[03:44] <m477> trekdanne: what doest that mean mkdosfs: /dev/sda1 contains a mounted file system. ?
[03:45] <trekdanne> m477: you should run "mkdosfs /dev/your_flash_drive_partion"
[03:45] <pekuja> m477, unmount it
[03:46] <Frack-Hesse> a good partitioning tool for kde is .... ? :D
[03:46] <trekdanne> yea but make sure /dev/sda1 is your flash drive :P
[03:46] <m477> trekdanne: i did
[03:47] <m477> trekdanne: it is
[03:47] <trekdanne> so 1) you have unmounted it and 2) you're running "msdosfs /dev/sda1" ?
[03:47] <m477> pekuja: i unmounted and /dev/sda1: No such file or directory
[03:48] <m477> mkdosfs /dev/sda
[03:48] <m477> sda or sda1 should be ?
[03:48] <trekdanne> sda1
[03:48] <m477> so what now ?
[03:49] <m477> i unmounted
[03:49] <trekdanne> try "mkdosfs /dev/sda1"
[03:49] <m477>  /dev/sda1: No such file or directory
[03:50] <setkeh> heya how be every one
[03:50] <trekdanne> hmm you may need to partion your flash drive first
[03:50] <trekdanne> you should be able to do that in your partion tool of choice, eg. "qtparted"
[03:51] <trekdanne> are you following me?
[03:51] <setkeh> lol no
[03:51] <m477> yes
[03:51] <m477> so how make partition
[03:52] <trekdanne> make sure "qtparted" is installed with "sudo apt-get install qtparted"
[03:53] <trekdanne> and then run qtparted
[03:53] <setkeh> what distro are people useing ????
[03:53] <trekdanne> eeh #kubuntu perhaps
[03:53] <trekdanne> :P
[03:54] <Frack-Hesse> hm
[03:54] <Frack-Hesse> :(
[03:54] <trekdanne> m477: in qtparted you should be able to select sda and then hit "create"
[03:54] <ubuntu_> hi all
[03:54] <Frack-Hesse> i should have had an extra partition for my home directory in the first place =(
[03:54] <m477> k
[03:55] <setkeh> heya ubuntu how are you
[03:55] <trekdanne> !hi
[03:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:55] <m477> trekdanne: crash ;/
[03:55] <ubuntu_> hi all
[03:56] <ubuntu_> Any one running Kubuntu on a mac
[03:56] <m477> or wait
[03:56] <m477> trekdanne:  i must mount again sda ?
[03:57] <setkeh> im running ubuntu in VMware
[03:57] <ubuntu_> Am running kubuntu live on ibook G3 and i find it fast compared to Ubuntu
[03:58] <Frack-Hesse> ubuntu_: i too find kde faster than gnome
[03:59] <setkeh> i found live to be more laggy than installed but im half way through downloading other distros on my host OS lol
[03:59] <trekdanne> m477: no don't mount it
[03:59] <theverant> what's a good folder sync utility?
[04:00] <m477> trekdanne: but when it isnt mount this qparted dont see that partition
[04:00] <setkeh> but i havent had a problem with ubuntu andsd thts with menmory swapping between my host os an my vmware
[04:01] <trekdanne> m477: hmm I thought you didn't have any partion hmm 0_o
[04:01] <m477> trekdanne: there is
[04:01] <ubuntu_> this my first time on a mac am even wondering about the extra keys on the keyboard
[04:01] <trekdanne> m477: and it's named /dev/sda1 ?
[04:02] <setkeh> i hate mac with a passion
[04:02] <setkeh> very crappy
[04:02] <m477> nevermind i did format and works now
[04:02] <trekdanne> m447: :)
[04:03] <ubuntu_> i just like this 12inch ibook for everyday work, i cant say much about mac cuz this the first one i have every tried
[04:05] <setkeh> im running windows XP on a vista compatable notebook designed for windows very high end notebook lol
[04:05] <ubuntu_> where can i get information about the mac touchpad and the mouse buttons, cuz i cant figure out right click
[04:06] <setkeh> have you tried google ??????????
[04:06] <m477> trekdanne: hmm now i can copy there nothing althought im on root
[04:06] <ubuntu_> setkeh: Am trying
[04:08] <jovan> i have bought a new monitor but i have the same problem with my nvidia driver
[04:08] <jovan>  (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-0
[04:08] <setkeh> ubuntu_: i used to know what it was cuz i used to use them for graphic design before i found a few programs for windows
[04:09] <m477> trekdanne: i have there 2 partiton sda1 and sda-1
[04:10] <wolferine> jovan, which driver?
[04:11] <pc08> hai
[04:11] <pc08> heyyy
[04:11] <jovan> nvidia glx-new (feisty)
[04:11] <pc08> fuck
[04:11] <setkeh> pc08: heya hoy are you \
[04:11] <genii> !language
[04:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:12] <pc08> hell yeahhh
[04:12] <pc08> genii where r u from?
[04:13] <genii> pc08: I live in Toronto Canada but from London, Ontario in Canada
[04:13] <pc08> i see
[04:13] <genii> Any pending problems ppl have?
[04:14] <pc08> how old r u???
[04:14] <genii> pc08: Old enough to know better but young enough not to care
[04:14] <Naitse> any body know howto configure udev??
[04:15] <setkeh> genii: lol nice combasck lol
[04:15] <genii> setkeh: :)
[04:15] <pc08> i love to fuck
[04:15] <genii> Naitse: What about udev did you want to configure?
[04:16] <Naitse> i got 4 partition 2 with window$ and 2 with linux
[04:16] <setkeh> pc08:  why must you swear when you have been warned prior
[04:16] <Naitse> the udev showme the partition with window$
[04:16] <Naitse> but i dont want this
[04:16] <Naitse> my english sucks... sorry
[04:16] <setkeh> Naitse: your doing well with your english lol
[04:17] <Naitse> I reed some howtos bout cant make the partitions desapiear
[04:17] <genii> Naitse: I am not sure i understand exactly. you can only see your windows partitions and not your linux partitions when you use the file managaer?
[04:17] <Naitse> no
[04:17] <Naitse> i see all partitions
[04:17] <Naitse> but i want to se only the linux partitions
[04:18] <pc08> usa suck!!! %$#@!!!
[04:18] <setkeh> he see all the partions but he doesent want to see them all he only wants to see the linux ones when he is looking at them from linux
[04:18] <ksivaji> genii are you there ?
[04:18] <yrg> Naitse: you could just delete the others from /etc/fstab
[04:19] <Naitse> on the fstab does not apear
[04:19] <genii> Naitse: Ah, Ok. not a job for udev then :) open the fstab file by: kdesu kate /etc/fstab    then put a # in front of lines which say vfat or ntfs  in them. save the file. then next time you will not see them anymore.
[04:19] <genii> ksivaji: Yes, but helping another right now.
[04:19] <Naitse> nono on the fstab does not apear the windows partition
[04:20] <Naitse> im screw :S
[04:20] <Naitse> any idea?
[04:21] <MarkSchmidt> hi there fellow kubuntians
[04:21] <MarkSchmidt> i have a quick question and hopoe someone here can help me
[04:21] <MarkSchmidt> i have an ntfs-partition with windows on it, mounted via ntfs-3g
[04:21] <MarkSchmidt> it works fine so far, but now i have created a folder in windows which is not shown in konqueror
[04:21] <Aqeelae> Hi, whats the best way to install all my beloved multimedia codecs (yes all of them) without using Automatix?
[04:22] <genii> Naitse: Please pastebin theese results:   sudo fdisk -l       and: blkid    and a copy of the /etc/fstab file may not hurt. i can look to see what may be there.
[04:22] <MarkSchmidt> any ideas why this could be the case? THANKS A LOT!!
[04:22] <trekdanne> Aqeelae: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs ??
[04:22] <Naitse> ok just wait:P the linux pc is on other room :P
[04:23] <Aqeelae> will that take care of all of them?
[04:23] <trekdanne> Aqeelae: and download essentials from MPlayer's site
[04:23] <Aqeelae> okay
[04:23] <genii> !paste | Naitse       In case you did not know about the way to paste longer things not in the channel
[04:23] <ubotu> Naitse       In case you did not know about the way to paste longer things not in the channel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:24] <dromer> damnit, why won't twinview work on my pc :'(
[04:25] <MarkSchmidt> my fstab is like this: /dev/sda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,umask=000 0 0
[04:25] <Naitse2> hi again
[04:26] <Naitse2> linux:/etc# blkid
[04:26] <Naitse2> /dev/sda1: TYPE="ntfs"
[04:26] <Naitse2> /dev/sda2: TYPE="ntfs"
[04:26] <Naitse2> /dev/sda3: TYPE="ntfs"
[04:26] <Naitse2> /dev/sda5: UUID="68bdaa60-483f-4c4c-bab1-75a9f097604a" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[04:26] <Naitse2> /dev/sda6: TYPE="swap"
[04:26] <Naitse2> /dev/sdb1: UUID="F427-A610" TYPE="vfat"
[04:26] <Naitse2> linux:/etc#
[04:26] <Naitse2> eso me muestra el blkid
[04:28] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | Naitse2, pay attention!
[04:28] <ubotu> Naitse2, pay attention!: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> mmm, coffee
[04:29] <Naitse2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33237/
[04:30] <Naitse2> ahi esta el fdisk -l
[04:30] <genii> Naitse2: OK reading
[04:31] <Naitse2> wait
[04:32] <Naitse2> sorry here is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33240/
[04:32] <Naitse2> the fdisk blkid an fstab
[04:34] <genii> Naitse2: OK, so where again are you seeing the Windoze partitions that you do not want to see them anymore?
[04:35] <Naitse2> when go to system:/media
[04:35] <Naitse2> but if only go to /media there is nothig
[04:36] <Naitse2> only cdrom and floppy
[04:36] <Naitse2> and datos
[04:36] <Naitse2> but not the other things
[04:36] <genii> work, brb
[04:36] <imo> Anybody, how can I install libtermcap the kubuntu-way?
[04:38] <genii> Naitse2: Ah, OK. It is that the directories for those things were made and not removed. but they are not being mounted or read
[04:38] <Naitse2> yes
[04:38] <Naitse2> how can i remove them?
[04:38] <genii> Naitse2: Wait, You want to see the windoze partitions?
[04:38] <Naitse2> nop
[04:39] <genii> Naitse2: OK, just do: sudo rmdir /media/<offendingnamehere>
[04:40] <Naitse2> but on /media the is not a directory for the sda1 partition
[04:41] <soulrider> !find openoffice
[04:41] <ubotu> Found: dictionaries-common, myspell-af, myspell-de-at, myspell-de-ch, myspell-de-de (and 176 others)
[04:41] <Naitse2> the only place that make reference to this partitions is /dev/disk/by-uuid
[04:41] <Naitse2> and by-path an by-id
[04:42] <Naitse2> on this folders are links to the partitions, if i erase them when i boot up they apear again
[04:43] <genii> Naitse2: Ah, this may be then a case to modify the udev.rules after all then
[04:43] <genii> Naitse2: 1 moment i will look for an example
[04:44] <voln> how can I change ugly fonts in Firefox during viewing web pages?
[04:44] <Naitse2> yessss
[04:44] <Naitse2> genii: thai is"!!
[04:44] <ksivaji> voln edit->preferences
[04:44] <AngelEyes1701> Heyo, I am looking for some help? I am a complete n00b in Linux, and this is my second attempt at making it work as my primary OS. All and any help is appreciated.
[04:45] <voln> not interface
[04:45] <mahdi> AngelEyes1701: what do you need help with?
[04:45] <voln> ugly fonts in web pages
[04:46] <voln> i know that exist freetype fonts
[04:46] <AngelEyes1701> mahdi: Screen refresh rate.
[04:47] <hsatera> is there an especific way to read nfo files in ubuntu?
[04:48] <trekdanne> is there any image-tagging program for kde?
[04:49] <hero> kflickr?
[04:50] <trekdanne> i would rather store everything locally
[04:50] <Naitse2> genii: do you want to I paste my udev.rules?
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> hsatera: kate, gedit, vi, pico, nano, emacs if you're brave
[04:50] <genii> Naitse2: No, that is OK
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> nfo files are plain text
[04:50] <mahdi> AngelEyes1701: what specifically is wrong with your refresh rate?
[04:50] <jhutchins> !fonts
[04:50] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:50] <hsatera> xD
[04:51] <genii> Naitse2: I am not overly familiar with the hd udev parts, but it looks like where the change should be made is /etc/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules                 However, the exact entry there could be tricky.
[04:52] <Naitse2> genii: Ok thanks!!! very much!
[04:52] <m477> trekdanne: hi now when i copy something on this flesh and unmount automatic it is delating
[04:53] <genii> Naitse2: You may find pointers here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[04:53] <hsatera> nano is very nice
[04:53] <hsatera> :D
[04:55] <trekdanne> m477: hmm  maybe that's because the data isn't written to the drive before you unplugg it. try to right-click and select "safetly remove"
[04:56] <trekdanne> or simply umount it manually
[04:56] <jhutchins> or sync
[04:57] <m477> trekdanne: exacly when i "safetly unmount" i got eror
[04:57] <m477> error*
[04:57] <trekdanne> what error?
[04:58] <m477> big a lot to write
[04:58] <logixoul> Hiya - unplugging my net cable makes accessing http://localhost (Apache2) impossible. What gives?
[04:58] <m477> trekdanne: also everytime error is other
[04:59] <ksivaji> jhutchins i configured apache2 on my system it is fine now
[04:59] <jhutchins> ksivaji: Good, I thought you were making progress on figuring it out.
[04:59] <trekdanne> m447: different error every time huh? do you get the same kind of error if you umount the device?
[05:00] <jhutchins> logixoul: You are not listening on the loopback interface.
[05:00] <logixoul> jhutchins: ohh, I see. how do I fix that?
[05:01] <[ifr0g] > where could i find kubuntu bug fixes and advisories ?
[05:01] <jhutchins> logixoul: Should be able to find the listen directive in the conf file.
[05:02] <m477> trekdanne: yes
[05:03] <m477> trekdanne: do u need screen ?
[05:04] <m477> trekdanne: im uploading it
[05:05] <m477> here you go
[05:05] <m477> http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5323/erroryw3.png
[05:07] <trekdanne> m477: hmm strange ..
[05:07] <m477> i know
[05:07] <m477> sometime is bigger error
[05:19] <trekdanne> m477: hmm i actually don't know ...
[05:26] <soulrider> !wireless
[05:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:28] <elite101> im having problems installing or even getting shockwave player on this. it says on the adobe website when i go to download it "We are unable to locate a Web player that matches your platform and browser." im using firefox and i tried using kopete
[05:28] <elite101> i mean konqueror
[05:28] <elite101> not kopete
[05:28] <elite101> :P
[05:29] <elite101> anyone got shockwave player working?
[05:29] <elite101> i would i have flashplayer9 just not shockwave player?
[05:29] <stdin> elite101: there is no shockwave for linux
[05:29] <elite101> ohh that sucks
[05:29] <stdin> blame adobe, I do
[05:29] <elite101> is there an alternative to let shockwave games play?
[05:29] <elite101> i guess not eh?
[05:29] <stdin> nope
[05:30] <elite101> shoot that sucks alot
[05:30] <elite101> well atleast i can still play java games :P
[05:30] <stdin> send a complaint to adobe, not that they'll listen
[05:30] <elite101> yeah
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> they provided flash
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> finally
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> work time :\
[05:30] <elite101> they will evauntally get sick of us complaing they will have to make one
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> it seems like i'm going in earlier every day :(
[05:31] <elite101> well there is no way at all to play shockwave games without shockwave player?
[05:32] <elite101> i guess not or else someone would have an alternative
[05:32] <stdin> you're lucky we got them to give us flash
[05:32] <elite101> yeah really
[05:32] <stdin> they totally missed out version 8 for linux
[05:32] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[05:33] <elite101> why will they not give shockwave to linux? just because its free-source they think someone will "reverse-engineer it"?
[05:33] <elite101> or they just dont have the time?
[05:33] <stdin> elite101: no, flash isn't open source, but we have that. there really is no reason why
[05:34] <NickPresta> elite101, I believe, at one point, they believed GNU+Linux, *BSD, etc users to be unimportant. I also believe that they have come to realize that there are enough of us now to warrant proper plugins.
[05:34] <elite101> thanx for the link Jhutchins, does that mean i can get flash working on it using wine and firefox?
[05:35] <elite101> yeah
[05:35] <elite101> because we all know linux is better than windows :P
[05:35] <elite101> jk
[05:35] <stdin> elite101: using firefox IN wine...
[05:35] <elite101> ic
[05:35] <elite101> so i have to get a "windows" firefox?
[05:35] <stdin> yep
[05:35] <elite101> this will be good because my firefox rite now is out dated
[05:35] <NickPresta> heh
[05:36] <stdin> I have 2.0.0.6
[05:36] <elite101> i cant update untill another 6months
[05:36] <elite101> :P
[05:36] <stdin> why?
[05:37] <jhutchins> Doesn't make sense.
[05:37] <elite101> because thats what it says
[05:38] <stdin> what what says?
[05:38] <elite101> i have 6.06.1 LTS it says on the cd i have to wait 6months for every update or something?
[05:38] <elite101> the cd cover
[05:38] <elite101> like the package it comes in
[05:38] <stdin> from the release date, yes
[05:38] <stdin> there's been 6.10 and 7.04 since then
[05:38] <elite101> ohh ic well i did a re-install on this HDD and now do i have to wait 6months?
[05:38] <elite101> lol
[05:38] <elite101> well i just orderd thoes
[05:39] <elite101> like 3weeks ago
[05:39] <stdin> no point
[05:39] <elite101> why not?
[05:39] <stdin> in 2 months 7.10 comes out, 7.10 = Oct 07
[05:39] <elite101> i can just upgrade
[05:39] <elite101> arrr
[05:39] <elite101> lol
[05:39] <elite101> im always behind
[05:39] <stdin> and yes, you can just upgrade
[05:39] <elite101> k well thats good now that i have a DVD drive now
[05:40] <elite101> well i thought there is a way to "safely" upgrade because if i do it wrong i can screw up the whole system?
[05:40] <stdin> you'll have to go dapper > edgy > feisty, then feisty > gutsy when it's out
[05:40] <elite101> wow
[05:40] <elite101> lol
[05:41] <elite101> i will get  7.04 and then update from that
[05:41] <elite101> to 7.10
[05:41] <martijn81> how stable is kde4 at the moment?
[05:41] <NickPresta> Guys, I want to setup a dedicated server to host various things like pictures to small projects (Django Forum). I will not be needing a GUI and I will not be needing the LAMP packages that comes with *buntu - I like to use the latest versions for my server so I compile Apache, PHP, MySQL, etc. What do you suggest?
[05:41] <stdin> martijn81: not very stable at all
[05:41] <jhutchins> :v mozilla-firefox -v 6.10
[05:41] <martijn81> stdin: i see, bummer because i can't  wait...
[05:42] <elite101> this ways its not 6.06 6.10 7.04 7.10 7.14 7.50 8.06 then .... :P
[05:42] <elite101> wich it will be in like 1 more year or so
[05:42] <elite101> sorry duhh*** lol that i mean 7.12
[05:42] <elite101> there is no 14th month
[05:42] <stdin> 7.12???
[05:42] <elite101> or 50
[05:42] <elite101> :P
[05:42] <elite101> i was making that up
[05:42] <elite101> im just saying
[05:43] <jhutchins> !info mozilla-firefox edgy
[05:43] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.6+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 55 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:43] <elite101> it would be easier to update using the 7.04 in the mail and wait then going from 6.06 to 7.10
[05:43] <stdin> elite101: it goes in 8 month cycles
[05:43] <stdin> elite101: 6
[05:43] <elite101> ic
[05:43] <stdin> elite101: 6.10 7.04 7.10 8.04 etc
[05:43] <jhutchins> !release | elite101
[05:43] <ubotu> elite101: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[05:44] <elite101> i have an out-dated system. althou when version's get better? will i need a better pc?
[05:44] <stdin> N
[05:44] <stdin> NickPresta: go with debian
[05:44] <yukino> hola
[05:44] <yukino> aayuda en esaol
[05:44] <stdin> !es
[05:44] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:44] <jhutchins> elite101: If you enable the correct repositories, you can upgrade firefox to 2.0.0.6
[05:45] <NickPresta> stdin, I was thinking of Debian, since that is what I first used for my server but I was wondering if the packages would be too old to run with the latest versions of a LAMP setup
[05:45] <NickPresta> stdin, unless I went with unstable
[05:46] <stdin> NickPresta: yeah, I was going to say that
[05:46] <jhutchins> NickPresta: I'd either use lts if you're really paranoid about stability, or just feisty/gutsy since it's a small personal project and you can afford to play with it.
[05:46] <stdin> NickPresta: there's always LFS :p
[05:46] <NickPresta> stdin, heh. I've read the manual about 15 times and I still don't have the time to dedicate to a LFS box.
[05:46] <jhutchins> NickPresta: Installing from source breaks the package management, and you won't be able to get help from the ubuntu support channels.
[05:47] <jhutchins> NickPresta: You might want to play with gentoo for a bit if you belive there's any advantage to compiling your own packages.
[05:47] <NickPresta> jhutchins, I figured I might as well go with ubuntu feisty (server install) and just install nothing when asked. Then install wget, elinks and such and grab my sources and compile. It is for a personal project so you're right. I can afford to play around a bit. I'm not _too_ concerned about stability.
[05:47] <jhutchins> NickPresta: That makes pretty good sense.
[05:48] <stdin> NickPresta: debian or just go with a desktop k|x|ubuntu install and disable(or remove) the desktop
[05:49] <NickPresta> jhutchins, I had a gentoo server running previously (I had to give that box to my cousin) and I didn't see a huge advantage in using it since I wasn't really installing anything. It was more trouble to setup than say Ubuntu. I can have a vanilla install of *buntu up in 20 minutes. Gentoo, not so much since it's a fairly old box.
[05:49] <stdin> NickPresta: my old desktop runs as a server with kubuntu feisty right now, I just removed a load of services to improve boot time and such
[05:49] <NickPresta> stdin, yeah. I think I might just do do.
[05:50] <elite101> i have a spare HDD that i wanna put movies on but im not sure what file system to format to so i can do this? should "FAT16/32" work? or can i make it a linux-swap?
[05:51] <elite101> i have Gparted rite now and im just wondering so i can back-up my movies to another HDD so they dont take up so much space
[05:51] <jhutchins> elite101: Um, you don't store files on a swap partition.
[05:51] <elite101> okay
[05:51] <elite101> i kinda firgured that
[05:51] <jhutchins> elite101: Does it need to be accessible in Windows?  WHat version?
[05:51] <elite101> but im not sure what file system Kubuntu will mount automatically
[05:51] <elite101> no
[05:52] <elite101> no windows
[05:52] <elite101> only linux
[05:52] <jhutchins> elite101: The standard linux file system for ubuntu is ext3, and i don't see any reason you wouldn't want to use that.
[05:52] <elite101> yeah well will fat work at all
[05:52] <elite101> FAT*
[05:53] <elite101> so wich one is the best one that will mount easy and wil be accesiable?
[05:54] <NickPresta> elite101, ext3
[05:54] <elite101> okay but is that one anygood?
[05:54] <stdin> yes, you're using it now
[05:54] <NickPresta> elite101, I assume you're using it right now :)
[05:54] <elite101> lol
[05:54] <elite101> yeah i know that
[05:55] <elite101> but say @ on point will that work in windows? or i need something like drivers to do something
[05:55] <elite101> im not going to use the spare HDD in windows but if there is ever a time
[05:55] <NickPresta> elite101, there are ways to mount an ext3 partition on windows.
[05:55] <elite101> ic
[05:55] <stdin> you'd need a windows driver, or just use FAT32, but you can't have large files on FAT32
[05:55] <elite101> like a program?
[05:55] <_stranger_> guys can u tell me how do i change the default options on the filetypes which i can create by right-clicking on desktop or in any folder?
[05:56] <elite101> well i thought fat 32 can only support 4gig partitions?
[05:56] <elite101> im gonna need like a 30gb partition :)
[05:56] <kjmck> Good morning. Is there anyway to resume an interrupted install from Feisty CD?
[05:56] <NickPresta> elite101, I would say if you _must_ have read/write in Windows and Linux, go with NTFS and use ntfs_3g in linux.
[05:57] <stdin> elite101: no, but it can only handle <2GB files
[05:57] <elite101> ic well the files for my movies are only like 700-1.5gb at the most
[05:57] <elite101> i dont think i ever had a file that was 2gb?
[05:58] <elite101> but i c what u mean thanx
[05:59] <soulrider> what can i type to see running services?
[06:00] <stdin> sudo netstat -lnp | less
[06:00] <stdin> is one way
[06:00] <soulrider> other ways? :P
[06:01] <soulrider> i think this is enough, thanks stdin
[06:01] <llarsson> not sure what you mean, ps and top ?
[06:02] <mintsoup> Hi--I have a question about switching to kubuntu from ubuntu, and it regards compiz fusion which I currently have installed.  And of course that question is will I have to reinstall compiz under kde or anything like that?
[06:02] <stdin> no, just make sure you have the compiz-kde package installed
[06:02] <mintsoup> thanks ;)
[06:03] <mintsoup> oh also whats the easiest way to get to kubuntu from ubuntu?
[06:03] <elite101> the gprated frooze at 1of2 operatitons?
[06:03] <elite101> when formatting to ext3
[06:03] <stdin> mintsoup: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:04] <mintsoup> and then if i decide i want to do away with ubuntu, can i run sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop or something similar?
[06:04] <httpdss> mintsoup: add the compiz-kde and libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig
[06:05] <stdin> mintsoup: www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[06:06] <mintsoup> thank you very much both of you
[06:06] <|WAL|> adept keeps telling me that the apt db is locked, but I don't know of anything else running
[06:07] <stdin> !aptfix
[06:07] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:08] <elite101> well i formatted to EXT3 and its not letting me mount the HDD?
[06:08] <stdin> any errors you want to tell us?
[06:08] <Assid> stdin: man .. im missing my compiz-fusion :(
[06:09] <|WAL|> stdin: fixed it, thanks
[06:09] <Assid> still havent fixed it
[06:10] <elite101> yeah
[06:10] <elite101> 1sec
[06:10] <elite101> mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:10] <elite101> Please check that the device is plugged correctly.
[06:10] <elite101> thats what it says?
[06:10] <elite101> im not sure why?
[06:11] <stdin> elite101: because you haven't made an entry for it in fstab?
[06:11] <elite101> no lol i guess not
[06:11] <elite101> how do u do that?
[06:11] <spawn57> are you using feisty elite101?
[06:11] <elite101> no
[06:11] <elite101> dapper
[06:11] <spawn57> ah
[06:12] <spawn57> just checking
[06:12] <elite101> 6.06.1 LTS
[06:12] <stdin> elite101: is there a system settings > disk & filesystems  ?
[06:12] <elite101> yeah
[06:12] <elite101> 1sec
[06:13] <elite101> okay now what?
[06:13] <stdin> add it there
[06:13] <elite101> okay its there its just that its not enabled?
[06:13] <elite101> do i have to enable it?
[06:14] <stdin> I think so
[06:14] <elite101> well the option is faded out? *yes im in admin mode*
[06:15] <stdin> try editing it, so it has the type ext3
[06:15] <elite101> it wont let me modify it at all? i tried my HDD im on now and it lets me? but yet when i select the spare HDD the enable button is still faded out i cant do anything unless i enable it?
[06:16] <stdin> close that, press alt-f2 and type in "kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:16] <stdin> post the line with hda1 on it
[06:17] <virtual_> H3y'
[06:17] <elite101> okay
[06:18] <stdin> post the line
[06:18] <elite101> what line tho?
[06:18] <stdin> the one with hda1 on it
[06:18] <elite101> kate came up?
[06:18] <elite101> ohh?
[06:19] <elite101> it looks normal to me?
[06:19] <elite101> what do i have to edit?
[06:19] <stdin> post it here
[06:19] <elite101> k
[06:20] <elite101> dev/hdb1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:20] <elite101> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[06:20] <stdin> I thought you said it was hda1, not hdb1?
[06:20] <elite101> ohh sorry
[06:20] <elite101> lol wrong one
[06:20] <elite101> u see
[06:21] <elite101> im booting off the slave one rite now i have to switch them so its proper the slave HDD has kubuntu on it the master one has EXT3 (spare kinda)
[06:21] <elite101> so its a little backwards rite now
[06:22] <elite101> but there is non of them that say hda1?
[06:22] <elite101> so what does that mean
[06:22] <elite101> its not even mounted yet?
[06:23] <stdin> what partition did you format?
[06:23] <elite101> there was only 1 on the spare HDD
[06:24] <elite101> 1partition and its now EXT3
[06:24] <stdin> so it's hdb or hda?
[06:24] <elite101> i formatted it and made it EXT3 the whole HDD
[06:24] <elite101> hda
[06:24] <elite101> hdb is the one im on rite now
[06:24] <stdin> is /dev/hda1 in your /etc/fstab?
[06:24] <elite101> but it does not show HDA in the kate?
[06:24] <elite101> fstab
[06:25] <stdin> ok add "/dev/hda1  /media/hda1  ext3 defaults,auto 0 0"
[06:27] <rajkalyan> hi everyone
[06:27] <elite101> just type it in between where?
[06:28] <stdin> elite101: at the bottom is ok, just make sure to add a blank line after that
[06:28] <spawn57> !w32codecs
[06:28] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:28] <rajkalyan> hi
[06:28] <elite101> blank line?
[06:28] <rajkalyan> can someone help me
[06:29] <stdin> !ask | rajkalyan
[06:29] <ubotu> rajkalyan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:29] <elite101> stdin does it have to be in the rite order?
[06:29] <rajkalyan> ok
[06:29] <rajkalyan> ubotu i know you
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i know you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <stdin> elite101: it has to be in the order I put it
[06:29] <rajkalyan> ubotu i know you
[06:30] <stdin> rajkalyan: ubotu is not human
[06:30] <stdin> !bot
[06:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:30] <elite101> okay but the spaces are not in order from the other HDD?
[06:30] <rajkalyan> oh reallu
[06:30] <rajkalyan> i need help setting up my wireless card
[06:30] <stdin> elite101: spacing doesn't matter
[06:30] <elite101> okay
[06:31] <rajkalyan> i have a trendnet tew 421pc
[06:31] <rajkalyan> i need help setting it up
[06:32] <rajkalyan> anyone there
[06:32] <stdin> what is a trendnet tew 421pc?
[06:32] <rajkalyan> wireless acrd
[06:32] <rajkalyan> card
[06:33] <rajkalyan> i had it working
[06:33] <stdin> rajkalyan: <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/TRENDnet_TEW-421PC_H/W%3aB1_%28ndiswrapper%29>
[06:34] <rajkalyan> thank you
[06:36] <rajkalyan> help i cant install firefox
[06:36] <rajkalyan> someone help me
[06:36] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[06:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:36] <elite101> thanx alot stdin my hdd works and is mounted** wuu!
[06:37] <rajkalyan> thank you
[06:37] <stdin> :)
[06:37] <elite101> sweet now to go on some pirate....lol jk
[06:37] <elite101> ;)
[06:40] <rajkalyan> no it wont even start :'(
[06:41] <rajkalyan> i still cant install firefox
[06:41] <rajkalyan> whats the problem
[06:42] <stdin> how are you trying to install it and what's not working?
[06:43] <rajkalyan> im using adept installer
[06:44] <rajkalyan> im using adept installer
[06:44] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: We can't help you unless you tell us what's happening.
[06:44] <rajkalyan> im on
[06:45] <rajkalyan> huh?
[06:45] <stdin> what's not working?
[06:45] <rajkalyan> adept installer
[06:45] <rajkalyan> i cant install firefox
[06:45] <genii> Likely your updater is running in the background
[06:45] <stdin> rajkalyan: yeah, so what's not working? how do you know it's not working, what does it say?
[06:46] <rajkalyan> the icon is grayed out
[06:46] <rajkalyan> i cant click it
[06:46] <genii> et voila
[06:46] <rajkalyan> the only open programs are konversation and adept installer
[06:47] <genii> and when you hover it says something like another process is running etc etc
[06:47] <rajkalyan> huh?
[06:47] <genii> rajkalyan: When you just sit the mouse on the icon a box might pop up sating something informative
[06:47] <rajkalyan> ok ill try that
[06:47] <genii> sating=stating
[06:48] <rajkalyan> nope nothing
[06:48] <rajkalyan> please help me
[06:49] <rajkalyan> im running it as root
[06:49] <stdin> how do you know?
[06:49] <rajkalyan> it asked me for my root password
[06:49] <stdin> ok
[06:49] <rajkalyan> when i started it
[06:49] <tib_> Hello
[06:50] <stdin> rajkalyan: what happens when you try to click the request install button?
[06:50] <rajkalyan> there is no buttongl ikr that
[06:50] <rajkalyan> this is installer
[06:50] <rajkalyan> not package manager
[06:52] <stdin> rajkalyan: open the package manager from KMenu > System > Adept Manager
[06:52] <rajkalyan> i want the installer!!
[06:52] <rajkalyan> not the manager
[06:53] <rajkalyan> firefox is in installer
[06:53] <stdin> it's in the package manager too
[06:53] <stdin> same thing
[06:53] <skeith> Will Kubuntu Gutsy use apparmor, or is that Ubuntu specific?
[06:53] <rajkalyan> ok
[06:53] <stdin> skeith: yes it will
[06:53] <rajkalyan> ill see
[06:53] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: Well, go for it if you know how to fix it.  Otherwise, consider following our instructions.
[06:53] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: You can't ask for our help then say "i don't want to do that".
[06:54] <genii> jhutchins: Well said
[06:55] <rajkalyan> i dont know what to do
[06:56] <rajkalyan> its not installed!!
[06:56] <hydrant> hi all
[06:56] <rajkalyan> it not in manager!!
[06:56] <arun> hi kids
[06:57] <rajkalyan> i STILL cant in stall it
[06:57] <stdin> rajkalyan: type firefox in to the search box, then click on the line "firefox" then click the "Request Install" button, then click "apply changes"
[06:57] <rajkalyan> it not there!!
[06:57] <stdin> have you looked??
[06:57] <arun> thanks genii
[06:57] <genii> stdin: Looks like uncommented deb cdrom   entry or commented out sources
[06:58] <stdin> uh
[06:58] <genii> arun: You're very welcome
[06:58] <rajkalyan> *
[06:58] <stdin> rajkalyan: click File > Manage Repositories, make sure all those boxes are checked
[06:58] <rajkalyan> it not there!!!!!
[06:58] <tib_> How can y automaticaly detect my USB key?
[06:59] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: what's not where?
[06:59] <rajkalyan> firefox!!
[06:59] <stdin> rajkalyan: I'll repeat, click File > Manage Repositories, make sure all those boxes are checked
[06:59] <jhutchins> !info mozilla-firefox
[06:59] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.6+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 116 kB
[07:00] <rajkalyan> ****
[07:00] <rajkalyan> IT NOT THERE!!!!
[07:00] <stdin> rajkalyan: WHAT is not there??
[07:00] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: What is not there?
[07:01] <rajkalyan> firefox
[07:01] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: We didn't say it was.
[07:01] <rajkalyan> i still cant instll it
[07:01] <jhutchins> Did you do what stdin told you to do?
[07:01] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: Are all the boxes checked?
[07:01] <stdin> rajkalyan: have you done File > Manage Repositories, make sure all those boxes are checked ???
[07:01] <rajkalyan> that not there
[07:01] <stdin> rajkalyan: ok, now you click "Fetch All Updates"
[07:01] <rajkalyan> ok
[07:01] <stdin> or "Fetch Updates" rather
[07:02] <rajkalyan> nothing there
[07:02] <Tm_T> !java
[07:02] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:02] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: What is your native language?
[07:02] <rajkalyan> uh
[07:02] <rajkalyan> um
[07:02] <rajkalyan> i shouldnt say it
[07:03] <rajkalyan> but how do i install firefox
[07:03] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: You seem to have a lot of trouble following simple english instructions.
[07:03] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: We can't help you.  You won't follow directions.
[07:03] <rajkalyan> fine ill isten
[07:03] <rajkalyan> what do i do
[07:04] <stdin> Click the "Fetch Updates"  buttin
[07:04] <rajkalyan> done
[07:04] <rajkalyan> then what?
[07:04] <stdin> now look for "firefox"
[07:04] <jhutchins> stdin: Why not just put him in the console.
[07:04] <rajkalyan> ok
[07:05] <stdin> jhutchins: because he'll just ask again if he doesn't learn how to do it himself
[07:05] <jhutchins> stdin: As long as he has a GUI, he thinks he knows what's happening.  Get him on unfamiliar ground and he might follow directions.
[07:05] <Tm_T> stdin <3
[07:05] <rajkalyan> its taking a long while
[07:05] <rajkalyan> how do you do that?
[07:05] <jhutchins> genii: Who's on first, of course.
[07:05] <rajkalyan> with the *
[07:06] <stdin> rajkalyan: first things first, install firefox
[07:06] <genii> rajkalyan: Don't get distracted. concentrate on what stdin and jhutchins are saying
[07:06] <me-> hi does anyone know if the version of "alsa-oss" has to be the same as the one from "alsa-sources" that it works?
[07:06] <rajkalyan> ok
[07:07] <genii> jhutchins: :)
[07:07] <rajkalyan> there still no firefox thing
[07:07] <rajkalyan> WHOA!!
[07:07] <rajkalyan> now there is
[07:07] <stdin> me-: afaik aoss is just a script that adds alsa librarys to the LD_PRELOAD varable, so I'd guess no
[07:07] <rajkalyan> thank you
[07:07] <stdin> me-: but feel free to ask in #alsa
[07:08] <stdin> rajkalyan: ok :)
[07:08] <me-> stdin: ah ok ty very much
[07:08] <genii> !helpercookie |stdin
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helpercookie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <genii> !helpersnack |stdin
[07:08] <ubotu> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[07:08] <genii> There, better...
[07:08] <Tm_T> a cookie!
[07:08] <stdin> rajkalyan: now to the other question, you type "/me message" to use the * rajkalyan something...
[07:09] <rajkalyan> ok thank you
[07:09] <stdin> I think I'll go get one
[07:09] <rajkalyan> here
[07:09] <Tm_T> there's a cookie
[07:09] <rajkalyan> what is talk?
[07:09] <stdin> heh
[07:11] <jhutchins> rajkalyan: Channel Operator stuff. Likely to be seen when there is too much punctiation (!!!!) or ALL CAPS.
[07:11] <rajkalyan> ok thank you
[07:11] <harmental> hey guys...what is the easiest way to password protect a folder?
[07:11] <jhutchins> harmental: depends a lot on what kind of a folder it is.  A network share?  Just a folder within a filesytem?
[07:12] <rajkalyan> hey guys
[07:12] <stdin> harmental: I'd just restrict it's permissions
[07:12] <rajkalyan> who uses firefox
[07:12] <harmental> jhutchins: just a 5GB folder in my system...
[07:12] <stdin> rajkalyan: a lot of people do
[07:12] <neverblue> app for checking sound?
[07:12] <neverblue> volumes, etc...
[07:13] <genii> rajkalyan: I would suggest 2 addons for firefox. DownThemAll and New Tab Homepage
[07:13] <rajkalyan> ty
[07:14] <rajkalyan> anyone use konqueror
[07:14] <logixoul> yes
[07:14] <rajkalyan> i need to save disk space
[07:15] <rajkalyan> i only have like half a gig free
[07:16] <rajkalyan> !helpersnack |stdin
[07:16] <ubotu> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[07:16] <rajkalyan> lol
[07:17] <rajkalyan> !helpersnack |rajkalyan
[07:17] <harmental> jhutchins: that worked like a charm!!!
[07:17] <harmental> thx!!!!
[07:17] <jhutchins> harmental: That was stdin, but great.
[07:17] <harmental> sorry...
[07:18] <harmental> thx stdin
[07:18] <stdin> :)
[07:18] <harmental> and thx jhutchins anyways
[07:19] <Jmanfoo> cat /var/log/dmesg.log > stdin :-P
[07:20] <Jmanfoo> AGH!! now my kernel logs are teh gone!
[07:20] <mintsoup> I'm not at my computer right now, so this might be a dumb question since i can't see kde menus and stuff, but is there a way to turn off the bouncy cursor animations that annoyed me so much last time i tried kubuntu?
[07:20] <Jmanfoo> its called launch feedback
[07:20] <Jmanfoo> in appearances
[07:26] <nex> hello
[07:26] <trekdanne> !hi | nex
[07:26] <ubotu> nex: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:28] <rajkalyan> !hi | rajkalyan
[07:28] <pag> !botabuse | rajkalyan
[07:28] <ubotu> rajkalyan: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:29] <pag> rajkalyan, it's also useless to pipe the command to yourself - it wont work  /msg ubotu !something   will ;)
[07:29] <rajkalyan> !botabuse | pag
[07:29] <ubotu> pag: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:29] <trekdanne> :P
[07:29] <rajkalyan> LOL
[07:30] <rajkalyan> ROFL
[07:30] <stdin> ....
[07:30] <genii> stdin: I'd say something but my appendix broke
[07:30] <trekdanne> having a good time on IRC, rajkalyan?
[07:30] <rajkalyan> yup
[07:30] <_stranger_> :)
[07:30] <rajkalyan> are you
[07:31] <|Assid|> stupid compiz
[07:32] <nex> I have aquestion
[07:32] <nex> a question*
[07:32] <arun> !ask nex
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask nex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <arun> !ask
[07:32] <rajkalyan> LOL
[07:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:32] <rajkalyan> !something
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about something - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <rajkalyan> !hi
[07:32] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:32] <arun> nex: whats up
[07:32] <rajkalyan> hi
[07:32] <_stranger_> !copmiz
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about copmiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <rajkalyan> !Welcome
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <rajkalyan> !sound
[07:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:33] <mintsoup> !compiz
[07:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:33] <nex> I'm trying to get beryl to start up  when I log on, I'm using ubuntu 7.04, but the xgl session does not show up under session options on the log on screen
[07:33] <stdin> Ubotu, tell rajkalyan about botabuse | rajkalyan, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:33] <pag> rajkalyan, please stop abusing the bot.
[07:33] <rajkalyan> kokookokokkook
[07:33] <_stranger_> =))
[07:34] <rajkalyan> X_(
[07:34] <stdin> nex: did you follow the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl it tells you how to make it show up in the sessions menu
[07:34] <rajkalyan> hr not get to gui
[07:35] <jhutchins> nex: Sorry 'bout the noise here.  There's also #ubuntu-effects, where more people are actually running beryl.
[07:35] <elite101> hey what is the ubuntu studio channel?
[07:35] <rajkalyan> idk
[07:35] <rajkalyan> im loking
[07:35] <Assid> stdin: how do i know if im using xgl or what
[07:35] <rajkalyan> looking
[07:35] <elite101> #ubuntu-studio ?
[07:35] <Assid> i think im using xgl
[07:35] <stdin> Assid: you'd have to install xgl to use it
[07:36] <pag> elite101, that or #ubuntustudio  not sure which one
[07:36] <stdin> Assid: did you install xserver-xgl?
[07:36] <rajkalyan> #ubuntustudio
[07:36] <rajkalyan> yes
[07:36] <Assid> no clue.. lemme check apt
[07:36] <Assid> yeah i think i did
[07:36] <nex> yes I installed xserver-xgl
[07:36] <Assid> not sure im using xserver-xgl tho
[07:37] <drbeams> !yukuake
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yukuake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <Assid> i mean actually using it .. not just installing it
[07:37] <Danker>  Could somebody suggest a good (tree) chart, diagram, schemes making program (something like oo.o draw or ms powerpoint, but more specialized)?
[07:37] <elite101> any one try out JackRack?
[07:37] <stdin> Assid: erm, maybe "pidof Xgl" would show it
[07:37] <Assid> stdin: yep.. nothing
[07:38] <stdin> Assid: well then you're probably running normal X
[07:38] <Assid> stdin: yewah.. someone told me xgl causes issues or something .. not sure how right it is
[07:38] <jbrouhard> hi all
[07:39] <genii> !info kivio | Danker
[07:39] <ubotu> danker: kivio: a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 564 kB, installed size 1808 kB
[07:39] <rajkalyan> hehehehe
[07:39] <stdin> Assid: if you have an older version of the nvidia driver, or ATI card, then you'll need it
[07:39] <jhutchins> xgl is mostly for 3d rendering and effects.
[07:40] <Assid> i am using the nvidial-new-glx or whatever it is
[07:40] <Assid> actually i got Envy which did it as well got me
[07:40] <stdin> Assid: you probably don't need it then, that should use AIGLX just fine
[07:40] <rajkalyan> !COOL is HOT
[07:40] <stdin> rajkalyan: you need to stop that
[07:41] <rajkalyan> ok
[07:41] <parsnip> hi all
[07:41] <parsnip> I've damaged a KDE setting somewhere can someone please advise
[07:42] <genii> What are the symtoms of this damage?
[07:42] <nex> I followed the guide, and now xgl shows up as a session start up
[07:42] <Assid> stdin: tried lg3d?
[07:42] <parsnip> when i click a folder shortcut on my desktop - it opens kscd
[07:42] <_stranger_> lg3d is really messed up
[07:42] <nex> but, when I start that session all the graphics are really messed up
[07:42] <parsnip> i tried to make cds autorun with kscd but now it does folders too
[07:42] <parsnip> can anyone advise
[07:42] <nex> could xgl be configured incorrectly?
[07:42] <Assid> _stranger_:  im stuck without compiz atm :(
[07:43] <stdin> Assid: is that the new java looking glass thing?
[07:43] <_stranger_> nex, i got the same exact problem
[07:43] <Assid> stdin: yeah
[07:43] <stdin> Assid: no, I have tried the older version, but not that one
[07:43] <stdin> Assid: kills my CPU :p
[07:43] <Assid> hehe.. what processor ?
[07:44] <nex> hmm
[07:44] <nex> not cool
[07:44] <stdin> Assid: on this laptop I have a Intel Celeron M 1.73GHz
[07:44] <Assid> aah
[07:45] <Assid> thats the one runnning gutsy ?
[07:45] <stdin> yep
[07:45] <parsnip> Assid: is there any way to reset file associations in KDE?
[07:45] <genii> parsnip: What sort of tutorial or method did you do to try and make it autorun the cds?
[07:46] <parsnip> genii: I right clicked the cd and said open with -> kscd
[07:46] <Assid> parsnip: i think configuring konqueror should do the job
[07:46] <_stranger_> guys, does anyone know where i can change the defaults for the filetypes, which i can create by right-clicking on my desktop or in any folder?
[07:46] <parsnip> now when i click my home shortcut on my deskto pit tries to load it in kscd
[07:46] <nex> anyone have any idea how to fix messed up grahics when starting xgl as a session?
[07:46] <Assid> stdin: im seriouslyt considerting gutsy for nothing else but access to the compiz repository
[07:47] <parsnip> Assid: is there a config file I can regenerate?
[07:47] <genii> parsnip: I've never seen that prob before ...googling about it now
[07:47] <parsnip> genii: thanks :)
[07:47] <rajkalyan> how do i get my trendnet tew421pc to work
[07:47] <stdin> Assid: it's _almost_ stable :p
[07:48] <Assid> parsnip: > konqueror >settings >configure konqueror > file associations
[07:48] <Assid> stdin: whats broken .. so far ?
[07:48] <Assid> that ytou can see
[07:48] <stdin> rajkalyan:
[07:48] <stdin> rajkalyan: I gave you the link
[07:48] <rajkalyan> that not enough
[07:48] <rajkalyan> i try it
[07:48] <rajkalyan> nothing
[07:49] <stdin> Assid: well, for me, I lost the use of my media keys. and hibernate/suspend was broken for a while
[07:50] <Assid> stdin: not like loss of data or anything right? no real show stoppers?
[07:51] <stdin> not for me
[07:51] <stdin> but it could break at any time :p
[07:51] <Assid> haha.. reminds me of windows
[07:51] <_stranger_> guys, come on, i know u know it )
[07:51] <titanix88> stdin: whazzup?
[07:51] <titanix88> stdin: whazzup?
[07:52] <stdin> hey :)
[07:52] <Assid> stdin: so you think i should move to it ?
[07:52] <genii> parsnip: Apparently from what i can find you need to locate kscdrc file and edit AUTOPLAY  line to read AUTOPLAY=0
[07:53] <stdin> Assid: up to you, depends if you're ok with working with bugs and telling dpkg to do what it's told :p
[07:53] <titanix88> assid:move to windows?
[07:53] <parsnip> genii: cheers man, i'll check it out
[07:53] <genii> parsnip: It may be in some dir like /usr/share/apps/kscd/kscdrc
[07:53] <stdin> Assid: but it's more stable now, 2 months till release
[07:53] <genii> parsnip: Hope it works. Report back if possible :)
[07:54] <whizadree> hey
[07:54] <gumjo> how do I hide the statusbar in konqueror?
[07:55] <rajkalyan> how do i get my trendnet tew421pc to work
[07:56] <titanix88> *
[07:56] <titanix88> *
[07:56] <whizadree> underdog5004: this is my n'teenth time installing
[07:57] <parsnip> genii: i gotta split man
[07:57] <titanix88> hey,how do u do that someone says that highlighting?
[07:57] <titanix88> hey,how do u do that someone says that highlighting?
[07:57] <parsnip> genii: i'll let you know if its all good :)
[07:57] <underdog5004> whizadree, maybe you just have a bad nic
[07:58] <stdin> titanix88: you say their nickname
[07:58] <whizadree> darn you had t o remind me i gotta fix someones pc
[07:58] <underdog5004> lol
[07:59] <titanix88> stdin: i mean the text starting with star.
[07:59] <whizadree> anyway how do i make my wlan be the default connection on boot
[07:59] <stdin> titanix88: oh, /me message here
[08:00] <rajkalyan> yes
[08:00] <whizadree> b
[08:01] <Tm_T> please stop that nonsense /me spam
[08:01] <elite101> hey is there a better Multimedia player that has acutall full-screen? i am using VLC but when i open up my DVD-rips it shows the screen like widescreen
[08:02] <stdin> elite101: vlc can play in full-screen
[08:02] <elite101> yeah but it doesnt zoom in good
[08:02] <elite101> i mean like the full screeennnnn
[08:03] <llarsson> help, i am trying to configure my wireless network card and all the guides out there say  iwconfig wlan0 set "AuthMode=WPA2PSK" however i get Error : unrecognised wireless request "set"
[08:03] <titanix88> elite : gxine is good.
[08:04] <Assid> stdin: okay give me your sources.list
[08:04] <Assid> im gonna update
[08:04] <elite101> okay
[08:04] <Assid> and pray
[08:04] <stdin> elite101: you need to change the video out driver to xv, it's in Settings > Preferences > Output modules (with advanced on)
[08:04] <stdin> Assid: yeah
[08:05] <Assid> stdin: not gonna lose data right ?
[08:05] <drbeams> hi, what is that program called.  yukuake?
[08:05] <stdin> not unless you delete it yourself or pull the plug half way through
[08:06] <drbeams> nm, yakuake
[08:06] <stdin> drbeams: it's a terminal bases on konqueror that acts like the quake console. ie: it appears from the top of the screen when you press a certain key
[08:07] <gumjo> how do I hide the statusbar in konqueror?
[08:07] <Assid> hehe.. okay.. sources.list please?
[08:07] <drbeams> stdin: ya, i was not getting the name right so, aptitude was not catching it
[08:07] <titanix88> stdin i find vlc playing dvd with dizzy lines.why?
[08:07] <logixoul> gumjo: cant
[08:07] <stdin> Assid: http://stdin.pastebin.us/38815
[08:07] <titanix88> someone help gumjo
[08:08] <logixoul> huh
[08:08] <stdin> titanix88: don't know, I don't get that
[08:08] <Assid> stdin: need to remember anything while upgrading?
[08:09] <stdin> Assid: remember to prey to the Linux Gods, it always seems to help me :)
[08:09] <Assid> we dont have penguins here :(
[08:09] <llarsson> anyone a wireless expert ? =P
[08:09] <stdin> gumjo: if no one knows here, try asking in #kde
[08:09] <Assid> apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[08:09] <logixoul> Assid: go to the temple then (aka zoo)
[08:10] <drbeams> llarsson: chipset ?
[08:10] <llarsson> ralink, but the problem is setting up the interface config
[08:10] <llarsson> rt73
[08:10] <llarsson> compiled and loaded the module
[08:10] <gumjo> sdin, okay
[08:11] <llarsson> intressting thought that it makes ubuntu-desktio hang
[08:11] <Assid> stdin: besides apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[08:11] <llarsson> kubuntu-desktop
[08:11] <titanix88> gumjo everyone busy writing cli that no one knows a simple configuration.huh
[08:11] <stdin> Assid: yeah, just make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed and a-g update && a-g dist-upgrade
[08:12] <llarsson> drbeams  iwconfig wlan0 set "AuthMode=WPA2PSK" -> Error : unrecognised wireless request "set"
[08:12] <JohnFlux> my mum, a complete newbie at computers, rang me today, and said she hated her new computer
[08:12] <JohnFlux> it has vista on it, and she really does not like it
[08:12] <Assid> stdin: should i stop X ?
[08:13] <stdin> Assid: no
[08:13] <drbeams> JohnFlux: that's what kubuntu is for :-)
[08:13] <Assid> stdin: know how to get apt to do multiple downloads per mirror ?
[08:13] <stdin> If you don't hate Vista, you're Bill Gates
[08:13] <JohnFlux> drbeams: meh.  A year ago she rang me saying that she didn't like linux and had gone out and bought XP
[08:13] <llarsson> drbeams i wouldnt give kubuntu to a complete newbie
[08:13] <stdin> Assid: you can't...
[08:13] <JohnFlux> drbeams: I paused then replied "mum, you didn't have linux.  you had windows 2000"
[08:14] <logixoul> haha
[08:14] <arun> haha
[08:14] <JohnFlux> she was convinced that she had linux
[08:14] <elite101> :P
[08:14] <jrwr> I seem to be suck in 800x600 by the looks of my xorg.log i seems i dont have any vaild modes, and it auto dectects
[08:14] <jhutchins> Assid: Best to just stick with the rate you've got.  If it's really bad, try another server.
[08:14] <Assid> try another server ?
[08:15] <jhutchins> Assid: If you were to hit it with multiple grabs, it would probably just throttle you - most of 'em are at capacity 90% of the time.
[08:15] <jhutchins> !easysources | Assid
[08:15] <ubotu> Assid: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:15] <stdin> heh, it worked :)
[08:15] <Assid> http://stdin.pastebin.us/38816
[08:16] <Assid> im getting md5sum mismatch
[08:16] <jhutchins> !fixres | jrwr
[08:16] <ubotu> jrwr: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:16] <jhutchins> Assid: Bad sum, or key mismatch?
[08:16] <Assid> md5sum
[08:16] <jhutchins> Assid: apt-get clean then try again.
[08:17] <stdin> jhutchins: "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch" < I get it too
[08:17] <jhutchins> !easysources
[08:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:17] <Assid> okay lemme use easysources
[08:17] <jhutchins> Sounds like it's time to hit a different mirror.
[08:17] <stdin> Assid: just disable the deb-src lines for now
[08:17] <Assid> yeah..  in.archive works
[08:19] <aguitel> hello everybody
[08:19] <drbeams> llarsson, my mother who is 67 years old does not even know what windows  xp looks like
[08:19] <drbeams> she's been on linux for as long as i can remember
[08:19] <aguitel> where is sessions in kubunttu ?
[08:19] <genii> drbeams: Now thats pretty cool :)
[08:20] <jhutchins> I have a friend who's 94(?) living in a small farm town in iowa.  She started a blog this year to discuss the hypertext family history/illustrated genealogy she's working on.
[08:20] <titanix88> drbeams mother must be linus' wife
[08:20] <llarsson> drbeams ubuntu and kubuntu need a lot of maintainance which isnt always simple for a newbie, things breaks and doesnt work nativly
[08:20] <jhutchins> aguitel: What about sessions? What do you want to do?
[08:20] <drbeams> heh, not really.  most home "users" do internet, some photo management, e-mail, and a word document
[08:21] <Assid> stdin: you dont use upstream beryl?
[08:21] <aguitel> jhutchins ,i need to add Beryl at the sturtup
[08:21] <drbeams> llarsson: kubuntu has needed the least amount of maintence of any distro i know
[08:21] <hydrant> hi all
[08:21] <logixoul> drbeams: what about freespire?
[08:21] <hydrant> can you help me
[08:21] <whizadree> drbeams: because its always being updated every moment
[08:22] <stdin> Assid: I use compiz-fusion, beryl is dead
[08:22] <hydrant> i have a problem about wlan on kubuntu
[08:22] <drbeams> and as a good son/daughter, you make sure she is doing well, because your mother can be your best advertisement :-)
[08:22] <hydrant> i use asus A9RP laptop
[08:22] <llarsson> drbeams tried windows, not secure but very simple and the updater doesnt hang yet, your hardware has higher chance of being simple to install
[08:22] <Assid> Need to get 1332MB of archives.
[08:22] <drbeams> logixoul: i've never seen linspire
[08:22] <Assid> dammmn
[08:22] <logixoul> drbeams: k
[08:22] <jhutchins> aguitel: From what I've seen here, you need to start beryl-manager, and I'm not sure if that goes in .autostart or what.  #ubuntu-effects might know.
[08:22] <Assid> 2 hrs down the drain
[08:22] <whizadree> Assid:  whats that for
[08:23] <Assid> whizadree: shifting from feisty to gutsy
[08:23] <jrwr> After reading the provided help page, it still seems im stuck in 800x600....
[08:23] <jhutchins> Assid: Ooh, gonna beta test for us?
[08:23] <whizadree> is gutsy stable now
[08:23] <Assid> why not
[08:23] <stdin> nope
[08:23] <stdin> !gutsy
[08:23] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:23] <jhutchins> whizadree: I think they just released the first beta snapshot.
[08:23] <aguitel> ok
[08:24] <Assid> ofcourse.. im gonna be praying it doesnt kill me
[08:24] <stdin> jhutchins: still alpha, alpha4
[08:24] <drbeams> logixoul: i have looked at pardus however, the installer "pisi" has a set program list
[08:24] <Assid> gutsy got kde4 ?
[08:24] <jhutchins> Ah, yes, tracking several projects these days.
[08:24] <jhutchins> Assid: Only as (potentially unstable) demo.  KDE4 is not ready yet.
[08:24] <drbeams> hi jhutchins
[08:24] <stdin> Assid: not by default, it's in universe
[08:24] <jhutchins> drbeams: Hey.
[08:25] <Assid> hrmm k
[08:25] <Assid> i wanna make my friends mac look like windows compared to this :P
[08:25] <Assid> hehe
[08:25] <Assid> the guy goes on and on .. mac this. mac that
[08:26] <titanix88> assid:with compiz?
[08:26] <jhutchins> Assid: Yeah, but YOU can actually DO something with your computer, without having to go out and spend $500 each time you try something new.
[08:26] <jhutchins> Assid: (That is, you could if you weren't beta testing eyecandy.)
[08:27] <drbeams> llarsson: trust me, if a user calls about a hardware install, 1. you have the opportunity to suggest linux friendly hardware, 2. if you charge them, the cost is far below what they would have paid you to maintian thier windows distro
[08:27] <Assid> yeah.. so i told him.. my p4 3ghz is still gonna get the job done.. of some eye candy and do my development
[08:27] <Assid> titanix88: yeah.. hopefully to shut him up
[08:27] <jrwr> WHat is the best way to scan for Harddrives and there paritions
[08:28] <Assid> jrwr: scan ?
[08:28] <stdin> jrwr: sudo fdisk -l
[08:28] <jhutchins> jrwr: For what do you wish to scan?
[08:28] <jrwr> thanks
[08:28] <Assid> fdisk -l shows you the partitions
[08:28] <jrwr> it didnt detect my drives...
[08:28] <Assid> you could also check df -h to see the partitions as mounted
[08:28] <jrwr> they are not
[08:28] <titanix88> assid i used it. u better wait a month or two. then a polished official release.
[08:29] <Assid> titanix88: im already downloading
[08:29] <Assid> i could always downgrade right ?
[08:30] <Assid> thank god for my 2mbit .. if i had to do this on a 256kbit line.. i might as well wake up next month
[08:30] <stdin> !downgrade
[08:30] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[08:30] <stdin> so no
[08:30] <Assid> titanix88: stdin says its pretty stable..
[08:30] <Assid> no ?
[08:30] <titanix88> assid:it worked fine except i didn't have any window decoration(btw it thought me use of alt key:)
[08:31] <stdin> compiz-kde provides decorations
[08:31] <Assid> titanix88: no window decoration?
[08:31] <jrwr> Ive read the wiki page about how to fix my X res, but none of those worked, and im stuck in 800x600, my xorg.log says somthing about No Vaild Modes, im using nvidia drivers
[08:32] <arun> does gutsy support real transparency?
[08:32] <jhutchins> jrwr: Monitor?
[08:32] <titanix88> assid and stdin :probably my old nv mx 4000 's fault.
[08:32] <Assid> hrmm prolly
[08:32] <jrwr> jhutchins: it supports up to 1128x1024
[08:34] <titanix88> or nvidia driver(cause it worked fine in dapper with old driver)
[08:34] <drbeams>  /join kde
[08:35] <titanix88> arun: it does
[08:36] <arun> titanix88: excellent.. i dont particularly like the pseudo transparency..
[08:37] <titanix88> stdin:btw i installed both compiz-kde and compiz-gnome
[08:37] <darkstar61> titanix88: i'm trying to install nvidia-glx in gutsy for my gf2 mx400 but it doesn't work (gimme the nvidia.ko not found error) do you use the nvidia-glx or the nvidia installer?
[08:37] <stdin> titanix88: they just provide the {kde,gnome}-window-decorator apps
[08:38] <titanix88> arun:u mean gnome bar like?
[08:38] <jhutchins> jrwr: someone in #ubuntu-effects might be able to help.
[08:38] <stdin> darkstar61: gutsy help is actually in #ubuntu+1
[08:38] <arun> titanix88: pseudo transparency.. like transparent konsole window, and transparent kicker, etc.. tht's not real transparency
[08:39] <arun> i'm hoping that changes in gutsy
[08:39] <stdin> darkstar61: and make sure you have "linux-restricted-modules-generic" installed
[08:39] <darkstar61> stdin: ok... thnx
[08:39] <titanix88> darkstar61 try nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:39] <darkstar61> titanix88: ok...
[08:40] <ToiTo> hola
[08:41] <stdin> darkstar61: that's only for old cards
[08:41] <stdin> !es | ToiTo
[08:41] <ubotu> ToiTo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:42] <titanix88> why they try split the dicussion with +1 and effects?
[08:42] <stdin> +1 is for gutsy -effects is for any version
[08:43] <titanix88> stdin i know but don't like that.
[08:44] <stdin> tough :)
[08:45] <titanix88> it a lot better to talk to lot's of people.
[08:45] <darkstar61> stdin: infact on the slack pc with the same card i use the nvidia installer with the 9631 and it works fine...
[08:46] <titanix88> slack vs ubuntu like bacteria vs nuron cell
[08:47] <darkstar61> titanix88: but works... :)
[08:48] <darkstar61> :)
[08:49] <whizadree> im on the phone with dell im trying to get my ati removed for a Nvidia
[08:49] <titanix88> legacy didn't work?
[08:50] <darkstar61> titanix88:nope...
[08:51] <Assid> wtf is #ubuntu+1 ?
[08:51] <Assid> oh thats a real channel
[08:51] <titanix88> did sudo nvidia-xconfig again?
[08:52] <stdin> yes, it's for gutsy, the current ubuntu release +1
[08:52] <darkstar61> titanix88: no... i'll try that
[08:52] <Assid> stdin: i think im gonna stick to feisty
[08:53] <Assid> this is pretty much a production desktop
[08:53] <Assid> kinda scared of it blowiung up
[08:53] <darkstar61> now i backed up to the nv that works just fine (but with no aiglx...)
[08:54] <titanix88> darkstar61 why?
[08:54] <titanix88> nvidia-xconfig does ur job.
[08:55] <titanix88> u don't need aiglx or xgl with gusty
[08:55] <dromer> nvidia sucks ass :( I can't get twinview to work on my 6200 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522066
[08:55] <Assid> call me chicken.. but i really would prefer a stable box
[08:56] <dromer> however it does work on my ancient GF2
[08:56] <dromer> haha
[08:56] <darkstar61> titanix88: why?
[08:57] <titanix88> sorry in feisty.compiz works natively with x.
[08:58] <darkstar61> titanix88: with the nv drivers?
[08:58] <titanix88> improved xserver i guess
[08:58] <titanix88> darkstar61 no.
[08:58] <darkstar61> nvidia-glx, right?
[08:59] <titanix88> with legacy please
[08:59] <khaije> is there any way to fix corrupt fat tables from linux, fsck literally just gives up
[09:00] <khaije> i know windows can fix it fairly simply, why can't linux do this?
[09:00] <khaije> it's odd to have such a common problem without a good solution on the linux side
[09:01] <diazamet> How can I get Kwin to maximise to a single screen with TwinView (nVidia's version of Xinerama)?
[09:04] <jrwr> Ive read the wiki page about how to fix my X res, but none of those worked, and im stuck in 800x600, my xorg.log says somthing about No Vaild Modes, im using nvidia drivers
[09:04] <whizadree> anyone know what this means http://pastebin.com/m2e0659e9 *sigh*
[09:05] <ruthenium> jrwr: you are using which version of the drivers ?
[09:05] <jrwr> Latest, from the package mgr
[09:06] <Assid> stdin: you know.. im not sure who gave me this repository.. but after adding the fonts there.. amazing.. some of the fonts look soo much smoother
[09:06] <ruthenium> 9755 ?
[09:07] <mintsoup> hi again.  I'm installing kubuntu with sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop and it popped up the message:   Leave the following dependencies unresolved:  koffice-data recommends openoffice.org-mimelnk.. what exactly is it asking here?
[09:08] <Assid> stdin: next time someone says something about the fonts: deb http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu feisty fonts
[09:08] <Assid> brilliant
[09:08] <jrwr> ruthenium: guess so
[09:08] <Assid> i hope they fixed the rgb fonts or whatever it is that im getting here
[09:08] <ruthenium> try installing openoffice.org-mimelnk first
[09:09] <ruthenium> oki because I tried the last version, beta I think, and I had the same problem as you
[09:09] <ruthenium> but if you are using the one from the repo then I don't know
[09:10] <titanix88> jrwr if u r using feisty try from nvidia-settings
[09:10] <jrwr> tried
[09:10] <jrwr> only detects 800x600
[09:10] <Assid> jrwr: whats wrong?
[09:11] <Assid> hrmm wait
[09:11] <uwe2> hello together
[09:11] <Assid> change your vertical and horizontal refresh.. and then also set 1024x768 by hand
[09:12] <vzduch> Assid: s/change/set/ .. by default there are no values at all
[09:12] <jrwr> assid, im stuck in 800x600
[09:12] <cameron_> how do I install .deb programs?
[09:12] <vzduch> cameron_: ouch
[09:12] <cameron_> ?
[09:12] <titanix88> jrwr do it manually in nvidia set.
[09:12] <Assid> HorizSync       84.0 - 86.0
[09:12] <Assid>     VertRefresh     48.0 - 120.0
[09:12] <vzduch> cameron_: what do you want to install?
[09:12] <jrwr> titanix88: : it wont allow me
[09:12] <cameron_> I'm an Ub0r extreme n00b on linux
[09:12] <Assid> set that in the monitor section jrwr
[09:13] <cameron_> nothing that's in the repositories...
[09:13] <cameron_> Limewire
[09:13] <Assid> and then try again
[09:13] <jrwr> they are set already
[09:13] <vzduch> cameron_: install frostwire, it's just as good
[09:13] <cameron_> ya ya ya, there both equal though
[09:14] <vzduch> and available from the Automatix repo.. which is NOT to say that you should install Automatix, just use the repo
[09:14] <owner_> how do i add a link to Trash to the desktop?
[09:14] <cameron_> plus Limewire supports torrent, not that I'll be using it for that though, I'll use Azurous
[09:14] <vzduch> FrostWire does that too
[09:14] <titanix88> owner_ kde or gnome?
[09:15] <vzduch> to my knowledge there is nothing that LimeWire can that FrostWire can't
[09:15] <owner_> KDE
[09:15] <Assid> jrwr: thats set?
[09:15] <jrwr> Assid: yes my refresh rates are set
[09:15] <owner_> is Trash an app and i link to it that way?
[09:15] <cameron_> titanix88: the best way I found is just to try them out, gnome is small and nice, but so is kde, it's just on personal preferences
[09:15] <owner_> Dragging and dropping was unsucessful
[09:15] <cameron_> I'll just use Frostwire then
[09:15] <Assid> jrwr: and what happens when you edit xorg.conf to use 1024x768 by hand
[09:16] <Assid> remove the other modes
[09:16] <jrwr> Assid: my xorg.log is saying No Vaild Modes
[09:17] <cameron_> u have an ati or nvidia card?
[09:17] <jrwr> Nvidia
[09:17] <jrwr> fx5200
[09:17] <Assid> hrmm
[09:17] <cameron_> u should be able to download drivers either from the website, or from the repositories
[09:17] <Assid> thats the same card i have
[09:17] <Assid> are you using nvidia-glx-new ?
[09:17] <jrwr> yes
[09:18] <cameron_> how do I install .deb packages?, unless you know of a repositorie for Winrar XD
[09:18] <Assid> and your driver is set to nvidia ?
[09:18] <jrwr> yep
[09:18] <cameron_> Does anyone know the repo for Frostwire?
[09:18] <vzduch> cameron_: I guess you won't find a Linux pkg for WinRAR.. why do you think it's called _Win_RAR? ;)
[09:19] <cameron_> ya, I know, lol, BUT, they still offer it for download under linux, I geuss it would then be called linrar
[09:19] <vzduch> cameron_: deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt feisty main
[09:19] <Novell> cameron_: dpkg -i package.deb
[09:19] <Level15> b/c it runs in Winux :P
[09:19] <pekuja> how about unrar?
[09:20] <vzduch> how about rar?
[09:20] <cameron_> wait, I went to the website, and it's only command line :(
[09:20] <vzduch> of course it is
[09:20] <Level15> cameron_: u can install it, use ark as a gui to it
[09:21] <cameron_> :( sniff, For frostwire would I add http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/ ass a repo?
[09:21] <Level15> though there are better alternatives to rar
[09:21] <_titanix88> owner_ solved?
[09:21] <vzduch> cameron_: indeed
[09:21] <vzduch> then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install frostwire
[09:21] <cameron_> like what/??? 7zip?
[09:21] <Level15> cameron_: yes
[09:21] <owner_> nope
[09:22] <owner_> Trash is not a application
[09:22] <cameron_> I've had the best speed/compression rartio, 30% with dvd's, with winrar
[09:22] <owner_> it is technically a location on the hard drive
[09:22] <_titanix88> owner_ kcontrolcenter-desktop-icons
[09:22] <cameron_> how would I use ARK to add a gui to rar?
[09:23] <stdin> Assid: heh, ok
[09:23] <stdin> cameron_: install "unrar", that's it
[09:23] <Level15> cameron_: AFAIK, 7zip has better compression ratio than RAR
[09:23] <cameron_> I can compress with rar then 2?, and is it the same way with installing 7zip?
[09:25] <owner_> i dont have kcontrolcenter, only system settings and the icons tab under dektop gives me no options to add things
[09:25] <mintsoup> gtk apps can run in kde right?
[09:25] <owner_> never mind
[09:25] <vzduch> of course they can
[09:25] <owner_> i found it
[09:26] <stdin> cameron_: yeah
[09:26] <Level15> cameron_: you can install both unrar and 7zip, and use ARK as a GUI for both of them i you don't want to use them from the command line
[09:26] <cameron_> kk, do they appear automatically in ARK?
[09:26] <_titanix88> owner_ u r on the right track. just tick mark show trash on desktop
[09:26] <stdin> cameron_: yep
[09:27] <owner_> no option for trash : (
[09:27] <cameron_> I can't open Adept now, antoher process is using it, yet it's not open :(
[09:27] <stdin> !aptfix
[09:27] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:28] <cameron_> yay ^_^, that worked, thanks
[09:28] <owner_> oh well guess trash can stay on the panel instead of desktop
[09:29] <_titanix88> owner_ pretty sure there is.search different tabs.
[09:29] <stdin> owner_: just create a link to location on the desktop and put "trash:/" as the location
[09:31] <Level15> :d
[09:31] <Level15> :D
[09:32] <Level15> HAHAHAHHA
[09:33] <joacim_> can't seem to execute python script without giving the interpreter as first shell arg, "python test.py". script is : #! /usr/bin/python import subprocess out=subprocess.Popen(["cat", "/proc/cpuinfo"] , stdout=subprocess.PIPE).communicate()[0]  print out
[09:33] <sirjoshimus> how would you get doom to play from 64 bit?
[09:33] <sirjoshimus> the linux install
[09:33] <cameron_> 32 bit Doom runs on 64 bit
[09:34] <cameron_> u just won't have the 64 bit advantage
[09:34] <stdin> joacim_: remove the space after #!, it should be "#!/usr/bin/python"
[09:34] <stdin> you were
 nope. doesnt matter
[09:35] <joacim_> same error: bash: test.py: command not found
[09:35] <joacim_> when doing just "test.py"
[09:35] <cameron_> should I use adept or Synaptic?
[09:35] <stdin> joacim_: heh, ./test.py
[09:35] <Level15> joacim_: chmod it +x and, if not on path, give full path
[09:35] <stdin> cameron_: doesn't really matter
[09:36] <cameron_> kk
already done. -rwxr-xr-x 1 joacim joacim 134 2007-08-10 21:33 test.py
[09:36] <cameron_> just asking out of personall opinion
[09:36] <Level15> joacim_: then specify full path
[09:37] <joacim_> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[09:37] <stdin> joacim_: like I said "./test.py"
[09:37] <Level15> is test.py in one of those directories??
[09:37] <Level15> stdin: r u sure his script is on his current directory?
 ./test.py works
[09:37] <sirjoshimus> oh
[09:37] <Level15> stdin: n/m
[09:37] <sirjoshimus> i was not aware of that
[09:37] <joacim_> ah! see <Level15> My script is not in the PATH
[09:38] <joacim_> he
[09:38] <stdin> Level15: I'm physic you know :)
 ok moved my test.py to /usr/bin/local and then the magic happened! :-) thanks!
[09:39] <stdin> grrrrrrrrrreat
[09:42] <stdin> lack of sleep and food does strange things to people
[09:42] <NickPresta> stdin, indeed.
[09:43] <stdin> a simple /whois would tell you
[09:44] <cameron_> how do I make sure Kubuntu is using both of my cores?, I have a P D
[09:44] <jhutchins> stdin: A lot of people don't set real info in /whois.
[09:44] <stdin> cameron_: it is, don't worry about it
[09:44] <stdin> jhutchins: I do :)
[09:44] <Level15> jhutchins: check /proc/cpuinfo
[09:45] <cameron_> kk, XD ^_^, lol
[09:45] <stdin> the default ubuntu kernel is SMP which means it will use more than one cpu/core
[09:47] <Level15> i know this is a dumb question, but... is Windows NT a POSIX conforming OS????
[09:47] <stdin> heh, NO
[09:47] <logixoul> eh... no
[09:47] <_titanix88> level15 no!
[09:47] <Sheazsche> how can i undervolt with kubuntu?
[09:48] <Sheazsche> is that even possible? im looking for a program like RMClock for windows
[09:48] <stdin> undervolt?
[09:48] <_titanix88> wiki was bribed
[09:48] <Sheazsche> yes undervolt my processor
[09:48] <mintsoup> do i enable compiz in kubuntu the same way i did in gnome by running the command compiz --replace?
[09:48] <Sheazsche> so it runs cooler and gets better battery life
[09:48] <stdin> Sheazsche: what processor ?
[09:48] <stdin> mintsoup: yeah
[09:48] <Sheazsche> stdin: what does it matter? its a pentium M 1.7
[09:48] <logixoul> curious: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/ntwrkstn/reskit/poscomp.mspx?mfr=true
[09:49] <Sheazsche> isnt there an undervolting prog?
[09:49] <_titanix88> mintsoup yes.
[09:49] <jhutchins> Sheazsche: If you lower the voltage you'll increase the amperage and it will burn out faster.
[09:49] <Sheazsche> amperage? what ive NEVER heard that underclocking can dmg anything
[09:49] <Sheazsche> thats insane
[09:50] <stdin> Sheazsche: "sudo modprobe p4-clockmod" then "echo p4-clockmod | sudo tee /etc/modules" that will load the driver and make it load on startup from now on
[09:50] <joacim_> here goes another one: I've configured dual head for my nvidia card (monitor and tv) and it works super. (two screens). but when I lauch apps in KDE with my hot-keys they show up on the tv (even though the lcd is scree0 in xorg.conf). Is there any way I can change "primary" screen in KDE ?
[09:50] <Sheazsche> ok.. but how do i edit the options?
[09:50] <_titanix88> jhutchin; processor is not registor to obey ohms law!
[09:50] <stdin> Sheazsche: you see a battery monitor ?
[09:51] <jhutchins> Sheazsche: Nope.  Wats=volts*current.  Drop the volts, the current compensates.
[09:51] <jhutchins> Sheazsche: That's why brown-outs kill electronics.
[09:51] <logixoul> brown-outs?
[09:51] <Sheazsche> jhutchins: how come ive NEVER heard this before
[09:51] <Sheazsche> in fact notebook resellers dont void warranties if you undervolt, but they DO if you overclock
[09:51] <jhutchins> Sheazsche: Dunno, how far did you get in electrical engineering?
[09:51] <logixoul> ah nm
[09:52] <cameron_> Has anyone used Virtualdub? (Does anyone know of an application like nero, Virtualdub, that would allow me to use codecs like Divx and convert them to a DVD (Mpeg-2)?
[09:52] <jhutchins> Sheazsche: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohms_law
[09:52] <aguitel> anyone helpme about ntfs files?
[09:52] <Sheazsche> http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/23/2028225 do a find for "serbanp (139486)" and read
[09:52] <jhutchins> cameron_: Heard some talk of devede, I like tovid myself.
[09:52] <NickPresta> Sheazsche, if you don't believe jhutchins, (and I encourage you to do your own research before believing someone on the internet), do some research :)
[09:53] <stdin> !ntfs | aguitel
[09:53] <ubotu> aguitel: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:53] <cameron_> ntfs-config
[09:53] <cameron_> search that on adept
[09:53] <stdin> cameron_: most (if not all) dvd authoring apps will do that
[09:53] <Level15> hey, ubotu is back!
[09:53] <cameron_> yep, what about menus?
[09:53] <stdin> cameron_: devede can apparently do them
[09:54] <aguitel> cameron,i install ntfs-config but i cannot write in this partition
[09:54] <cameron_> kk, I'm checking it out right now, installing, now, done
[09:54] <cameron_> go into the knosole, and type in sudo ntfs-config
[09:54] <aguitel> ok
[09:55] <cameron_> it should come up and you can select yhe ntfs partitions you want to mount
[09:55] <_titanix88> wb ubotu(from level15)!
[09:55] <mintsoup> can i do composite window transparency (is that what it's called?) in kde?
[09:55] <Level15> yep! yesterday we had an impostor called ubot3 or something :D
[09:56] <jhutchins> _titanix88: Guess it depends on what the constants are, eh?
[09:56] <Level15> mintsoup: yes, if the composite extension is enabled for your X server
[09:56] <aguitel> cameron ,there is a error
[09:56] <aguitel> cameron i put in pastebin for you
[09:56] <cameron_> ahh, did you manually mount the paritions in the knonsole?
[09:56] <aguitel> cameron ,yes
[09:56] <stdin> aguitel: if it's 3 or less lines, it's ok in here
[09:57] <aguitel> ok
[09:57] <mintsoup> ok.. i thin it is. i have the extension section for composite in xorg.conf and it works in gnome.. any clues as to how to get it working in kde?
[09:57] <cameron_> that would mean their in use
[09:57] <_titanix88> constant means same as beford.
[09:57] <Level15> kcontrol, there's something as for window appearance
[09:57] <cameron_> Kubuntu apperently has viewing ntfs partitions built in, but that's only read-only
[09:57] <aguitel>  Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[09:57] <aguitel>   Major opcode:  145
[09:57] <aguitel>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:57] <aguitel>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:57] <aguitel> Failed to open device
[09:58] <aguitel> cameron,do you see
[09:58] <stdin> aguitel: you can ignore those "BadDevice" errors
[09:58] <cameron_> try to install Beryl, u'll have to get the repositories from the website
[09:58] <aguitel> i have beryl working
[09:58] <cameron_> ya, what stdin said
[09:59] <cameron_> mintsoup: try to install Beryl, u'll have to get the repositories from the website
[09:59] <aguitel> cameron,reinstall?
[09:59] <stdin> cameron_: not for feisty
[09:59] <cameron_> ntfs-config?
[10:00] <Level15> _titanix88: does it work any better? meaning, less buggy?
[10:00] <aguitel> camron,you say to install beryl?
[10:00] <cameron_> stdin: beryl isn't for feisty?
[10:00] <_titanix88> level15 yes.
[10:00] <stdin> !info beryl
[10:00] <cameron_> no, I was talking to mintsoup
[10:00] <ubotu> beryl: Compositing window manager, decorator and theme support - Beryl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1.dfsg+git20070318-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2 kB, installed size 44 kB
[10:00] <mintsoup> you think beryl will work better than compiz fusion?
[10:00] <stdin> cameron_:
[10:00] <Assid> stdin: i got my compiz to work
[10:00] <jhutchins> Sheazsche: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UndervoltingHowto
[10:00] <whizadree> anyone know of a port scanner
[10:00] <Assid> i wish it was faster tho
[10:00] <whizadree> i can use
[10:00] <Assid> but then.. well..
[10:01] <joacim_> whizadree nmap
[10:01] <cameron_> mintsoup: no, I personally don't really have a basis with usin the sui stuff for linux, I can't get my ati graphix drivers properly installed, so ignore me XD
[10:01] <Angelus> hello girls!
[10:01] <_titanix88> whizadree:nmap.
[10:02] <duh-> haiii
[10:02] <mintsoup> oh hm i use an ati 9800 with open source drivers.. but it's always worked just fine for me in gnome
[10:02] <stdin> Angelus: ???
[10:02] <wftl> Afternoon all. Anyone care to recommend a good, well supported (7.04 anyhow) webcam?
[10:02] <duh-> i have a pc that have windows and the laptop that have kubuntu and im trying to do ics wirelessly with out a router anyone has an idea about it ?
[10:02] <NickPresta> !hardware
[10:02] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:02] <cameron_> I don't think the O: S: drivers support hardware acceleration
[10:02] <wftl> That you have personal experience with, I should have added.
[10:02] <stdin> wftl: most logiteck quickcam types work
[10:03] <jhutchins> !webcam | wftl
[10:03] <ubotu> wftl: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:03] <aguitel> cameron,now is working ntfs
[10:03] <mintsoup> i don't know exactly how to check it.. but i think i've been using hardware acceleration.. maybe i was just halucinating it
[10:03] <Angelus> jhutchins: how come i find you in every channel i go? your a ghost or somethin'? :p
[10:03] <aguitel> cameron,thankz
[10:03] <cameron_> aguitel: try to unmount all of your ntfs partitions
[10:03] <cameron_> o, your welcome XD
[10:03] <jhutchins> Angelus: Dunno, how many nets are you on?
[10:04] <Angelus> 5
[10:04] <duh-> i have a pc that have windows and the laptop that have kubuntu and im trying to do ics wirelessly with out a router anyone has an idea about it ?
[10:04] <cameron_> mintsoup: well, you should be able to tell, you should be able to install comppiz with no problem
[10:04] <Level15> ics?
[10:04] <Level15> !ics
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <Level15> hm
[10:04] <duh-> internet connection sharing
[10:04] <Level15> oh
[10:04] <jhutchins> !repeat | duh-
[10:04] <ubotu> duh-: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:04] <wftl> jhutchins: stdin: I worded my question the way I did because I wanted to know about people's personal experience. I was kind of hoping someone had a cam they really, really liked.
[10:05] <duh-> or something anything i just need to connect to the internet from my linux windows sux!
[10:05] <mintsoup> well i've got compiz running right now.. i just don't have composite windows
[10:05] <jhutchins> Oh!  Internet Connection sharing!
[10:05] <wftl> I have several working cams, but I'm only so excited about the quality of them.
[10:05] <duh-> !patience
[10:05] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:05] <stdin> wftl: I have a quickcam, it works. better? :p
[10:05] <jhutchins> duh-:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[10:05] <Level15> duh-: haven't done that, but my guess is you need to establish an ad-hoc network between your win and lin boxes
[10:05] <cameron_> mintsoup: meaning you can't enable them in the maneger?
[10:06] <duh-> Level15: how to do the ad-hoc on linux ?>
[10:06] <mintsoup> main thing: when i turn on transparency in konsole it pokes a hole through all the windows to the desktop
[10:06] <Level15> duh-: sorry, haven't really done that
[10:06] <wftl> Thanks, stdin.
[10:06] <jhutchins> wftl: The wiki pages are often in more depth than we can achieve on IRC, and are available even when someone who uses a webcam isn't.
[10:06] <shalveen> i need help
[10:06] <wftl> jhutchins: I'll do a little digging then.
[10:07] <shalveen> my x chat opens and closes imediately
[10:07] <stdin> try konversation...
[10:07] <cameron_> mintsoup: meaning, when you enable transperency in ONE window, all of the windows behind it that DO NOT have transperency enabled have transperency under the transperent window?
[10:07] <Level15> shalveen: use konversation or kopete
[10:07] <jhutchins> shalveen: Run it from a console and see if it leaves any meanigful fewmets.
[10:07] <shalveen> thats what im using now
[10:07] <stdin> shalveen: for help with x-chat, you're better off in #ubuntu
[10:08] <_titanix88> shavleen:most x gui app does the same:p
[10:08] <jhutchins> shalveen: or #xchat
[10:08] <Level15> mintsoup: konsole's transparency is fake; what it does is take a picture of the desktop wallpaper and draw in it's own window. that's why you can't see any windows beneath konsole, but just the desktop
[10:08] <cameron_> o, that makes sence then
[10:09] <mintsoup> k.. in gnome i was able to make the terminal composite transparent.. any way to do that in konsole?
[10:09] <stdin> konsole doesn't support that in kde3.x afaik
[10:09] <cameron_> Level15: disabling Kubuntu's transperency and using compiz/beryls transperency ould work then?
[10:09] <shalveen> i see thanks
[10:09] <Level15> mintsoup: use real transparency with kde composite manager or beryl/compiz/compiz fusion
[10:09] <Level15> cameron_: should do it, yes
[10:09] <_titanix88> mintsoup:use compiz fusion.
[10:09] <cameron_> lol, ya
[10:10] <mintsoup> i am using compiz fusion ;)
[10:10] <Level15> all right fellows... g2g
[10:10] <Level15> cya
[10:10] <mintsoup> i can make it transparent, but not quite the way i want.. oh well
[10:10] <cameron_> well, I'm sure if u mess with the different options, you can get it, I g2g 2, good luck!
[10:11] <mintsoup> oh?
[10:12] <duh-> well can someone can guide me how to setup pppoe ?
[10:12] <voln> who knows about cleaning tools for kubuntu (the unnecessary files, etc)
[10:12] <stdin> duh-: looked at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE ?
[10:13] <mintsoup> hmm.. maybe i just won't use compiz.. it was just for flash anyways :*(
[10:13] <duh-> yeh
[10:13] <duh-> didn't work
[10:13] <_titanix88> good 24 hour everyone.i got to sleep.
[10:13] <stdin> duh-: that's all I can give, I don't use pppoe
[10:13] <stdin> !info kdirstat | voln
[10:13] <ubotu> voln: kdirstat: graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.4-3 (feisty), package size 272 kB, installed size 880 kB
[10:14] <stdin> voln: sound like what you want?
[10:14] <voln> during installation exist a lot of files, i don't need it
[10:15] <stdin> like what?
[10:15] <stdin> !ru
[10:15] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:16] <timehub_> russian?
[10:16] <voln> like registry garbige in windows
[10:16] <voln> yes
[10:16] <voln> russian
[10:16] <stdin> voln: linux doesn't have a registry
[10:16] <voln> really?
[10:16] <stdin> yes
[10:17] <stdin> that's one of it's good points
[10:17] <voln> but a lot of garbige there
[10:17] <stdin> where?
[10:17] <jhutchins> Some of the programs obfuscate the configuration, a few actually use binary config files, but there's no central registry.
[10:17] <jhutchins> Well, except for gnome.conf
[10:17] <stdin> gnome is evil, that's why :p
[10:17] <voln> not uninstall completly etc
[10:18] <jhutchins> voln: Like what?
[10:18] <stdin> what doesn't ?
[10:18] <runlevelten> voln, by and large that kind of cruft isn't installed unless you install it.
[10:19] <voln> during uninstalling a lot of files there exist
[10:19] <stdin> where?
[10:19] <runlevelten> you mean .app type files in your home directory?
[10:19] <voln> in directory kubuntu
[10:19] <voln> yes app, ini, etc
[10:20] <runlevelten> to remove residual configurations and stuff with uninstallations, one uses apt-get --purge remove <appname>
[10:20] <stdin> voln: you may have better luck in #ubuntu-ru
[10:20] <voln> orphen files
[10:20] <mintsoup> what's the kde window manager and how do I make it replace compiz
[10:20] <runlevelten> but if you don't mean that voln, I'm finding it very hard to understand what else you could mean. :(
[10:20] <stdin> mintsoup: kwin --replace
[10:21] <mintsoup> hm, the bottom panel is missing
[10:21] <voln> windows have one why kubuntu not?
[10:22] <vzduch> voln: Winblows has what?
[10:22] <runlevelten> windows have one what? Cabbage? Barnacle? Moon unit? xD
[10:22] <mintsoup> oh nm it came back
[10:22] <stdin> because kubuntu dose not have a registry...
[10:22] <timehub_> but does wine?
[10:22] <runlevelten> the registry is a horrible, horrible idea.
[10:22] <stdin> yes
[10:23] <timehub_> so can that get messed up
[10:23] <stdin> timehub_: only if you use wine :)
[10:23] <runlevelten> It combines every potential config flaw in the system into one single point of (possibly catastrophic) failure, then obfuscates it into the bargain :\
[10:23] <stdin> !ru | voln
[10:23] <ubotu> voln:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:24] <Assid> sup runlevelten
[10:24] <runlevelten> only the .wine folder could be harmed. In that case, you'd just blow away the appropriate files. No harm done :)
[10:24] <runlevelten> hey assid
[10:24] <jhutchins> I like the idea of a binary config file that's read/compiled from text config files.  If you update a text file, that part of the binary gets updated.
[10:25] <runlevelten> binary config file.
[10:26] <runlevelten> you just reminded me of the hideous apple "binary XML". Gah.
[10:26] <runlevelten> heh
[10:27] <vzduch> binary XML?  o0
[10:27] <runlevelten> Yeah, binary XML. :\
[10:27] <vzduch> what's that supposed to be?
[10:28] <MaTiAz> Binary XML sounds like a hideous monster from hell which has come to eat your brains
[10:28] <logixoul> true, lol.
[10:28] <ardchoille> MaTiAz: lol
[10:30] <runlevelten> Well it's not using an XMLesque structure in your binary data storage, it's calling it XML that's icky.
[10:30] <runlevelten> I'm just looking for the relevant link ;)