=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mozillateam.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Topic for #ubuntu-mozillateam: Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/ | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/firefox/trunk | Mailing List: ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com | === Topic (#ubuntu-mozillateam): set by Admiral_Chicago at Sun Jun 24 10:33:47 2007 === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:27] Jazzva: no problem ... do as much as you can ... but not more ;) [10:33] anyone seen gnomefreak? === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:02] damn thing ... nspluginwrapper is broken in gutsy [11:02] wtf [11:02] gnomefreak === Bernardo [n=Bernardo@sourcemage/Bernardo] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:17] good morning [11:18] hi Bernardo [11:18] asac: I'm jbernardo from ubuntuforums, the one with IPW3945 problems [11:18] hidden networks are known to be problematic still [11:19] you are using latest gutsy? [11:19] I know, but 12 hours ago I had the same problems connecting to my fonera WPA2 network, which has a visible SSID [11:19] yes, updated this morning (except multiverse, that was giving hash errors) [11:20] this morning - 2 hours ago (I'm on gmt) [11:20] ok ... so if you upgraded this morning ... is your brokeness already with latest network-manager ? [11:21] latest was uploaded on 2007-08-07 [11:21] and version is 0.6.5-0ubuntu9 [11:21] yes, I think the syslog I posted was after the upgrade, let me check [11:22] the syslog is from yesterday, at 19h gmt (+1 - DST) [11:22] can you see in logs if you got new network-manager today? [11:23] i think its /var/log/apt/term.log [11:23] unless you use aptitude [11:24] aptitude [11:25] I updated on the 8th from 0.6.4. to 0.6.5 [11:25] what i see in your syslog looks like what we tried to fix in latest upload ... which is why i asked [11:25] i have received a few negative feedbacks ... but for most it fixed the issue [11:25] hmm [11:25] Bernardo: no upgrade afterwards? [11:25] of network-manager, no [11:26] ok ... then you are most likely on latest [11:26] you are at work and cannot test atm, right? [11:26] at least the upgrade was to 0.6.5-0ubuntu9 [11:27] yes, there are no networks nearby, open or closed [11:27] I could try to see if host mode works on my zaurus with a prism3 adapter... :) [11:27] ok ... unfortunately i will will not have net access this weekend ... maybe tomorrow in the evening [11:28] hmm ... i would like to investigate the ipw3945 issues ;) ... but feedback about other wifi chipsets is appreciated [11:28] ok, I think I'll also have to go to beach or somewhere, or I'll get killed by the wife... :) [11:28] if you can try other chipset please post your results to the forum thread so I can get the big picture [11:28] I meant using the zaurus as a AP [11:29] I do have a USB Ralink adapter, but that one needed some specific commands to use WAP [11:29] ah ... ok. I have no idea yet if it really is AP dependent [11:30] I don't think it is AP dependent, as MacUnto has the same AP using the same firmware as I do as has no problems [11:30] feedback on ralink is welcome too ... if its just broken, please just state ;) [11:30] I was just thinking if it worked as a AP I could test it here at work [11:30] Bernardo: ah ok [11:30] but the last time I tried that was a couple of years ago [11:31] with a unsecure network [11:31] well ... open networks are inheritantly broken with ipw3945 atm too i guess [11:31] so I'll have to check on how to use wpa_supplicant in AP mode [11:31] I get connected to open networks, even if I don't want to [11:32] thats strange ... i get the feeling that there are variants of ipw3945 ... or some firmware differences [11:32] Bernardo: does open network work through NM as well ... or just manually? [11:33] I think it's quite possible - check my lspci -v output on the forum [11:33] I think thru NM as well, if I choose a open network, it connects [11:33] did someone with a working setup post lspci as well? [11:33] but I didn't test it extensively, as I was more interested in wpa [11:33] .... so i can compare [11:33] we can ask MacUnto, as his setup works [11:33] right ... which is why we investigate wpa with higher prio atm [11:34] yeah ... i already have asked him to post his info to devlink thread as well [11:36] We'll see [11:36] I'm also going to re-install this machine today [11:36] As I'm having some strange compiz problems [11:36] Bernardo: ok fine ... let me know ... and try to ping me if you have some time to test things [11:36] sure [11:36] well compiz might still cause a lot of problems [11:36] Bernardo: thanks! [11:37] (at least for me it does) [11:37] I had it working under feisty, building my own debs using trevio's script [11:37] and it all went bad after I tried kde4 from backports [11:37] It just hung my X server [11:38] so I tried all, ending up by upgrading to gutsy [11:38] and I still have some X server hangs, even though a lot less since I switched acceleration to exa [11:39] so I'm going to try a clean gutsy install... that's the problem when you use lots of bleeding edge tech, you never know what breaks what [11:53] right ... sorry that I can't help on that ... I am the wrong person for compiz ;) [11:56] :) [11:57] to think I gave up on a source based distro because I didn't have the time to keep updating and fixing stuff... :) [12:21] bbl, time to reinstall... [01:46] asac: I started writing that script. So far it just gets the rdeps for ff and tb and puts them in the separate files :). I thought that maybe I could have three files: firefox-ext, -other and -new. [01:46] In the first one would be firefox exts, in the second rdeps that are not extensions [01:46] ok [01:46] hmm [01:46] and in the last one the new rdeps... [01:46] Jazzva: actually i think you just need one file [01:46] which means: all packages that are in that file are already properly processed [01:46] e.g. we have sorted them out [01:47] then you can just see if there is an rdepends that is not in that file [01:47] and we would know that we need to look at it [01:47] Ok :)... [01:47] Umm... do you know how can I read a string from a file? [01:47] so we would need just one file in bzr for each distribution [01:48] Jazzva: you just grep for every package you get by rdepends [01:48] does that answer your question? [01:48] e.g. [01:49] for rdep in $(apt-cache rdepends firefox); do grep -C $rdep firefox.packages.investigated; done [01:49] test if grep yields 0 [01:49] of course you have to clean the output of apt-cache [01:49] e.g. remove | and , i guess [01:49] Right, I used temp file for that... [01:50] so for rdep in $(apt-cache rdepends firefox | sed -e 's/[|,] / /g') ... [01:50] ok [01:50] just do what you like most [01:50] Piping is fun... :) [01:50] Well, your method looks better :). I still have to find out commands and stuff :) [01:50] in the end it just should be : aretherenewrdepends.sh /path/to/current/package.file [01:51] Jazzva: sure [01:51] Jazzva: just do what you can ... your skills will improve by time then [01:51] and aretherenewrdepends.sh just spits out any new rdepends rthat are not in package.fil [01:51] ok ... lunch brewak for me [01:51] I suppose... Off to work on it and to check those bugs after :) [01:52] suire [01:52] Jazzva: so is the current branch ready for merge?` [01:52] i mean from the .desktop file point of view` [01:52] Well, afaics yes... [01:52] It works with g-a-i and --xul-extensions [01:52] ok please post link ... i will take care for that after lunch [01:52] Most of them have icons [01:53] Ok [01:53] yes ... not all need icons ... but is a nice to have ;) [01:53] Well, I left the Icon field empty for those that don't have... In case an icon appears :). I don't think that g-a-i minds :). [01:54] right ... sounds good [01:54] Here's the link: https://code.launchpad.net/~jazzva/app-install-data-ubuntu/ubuntu.mozilla-extensions [01:55] Have fun ;) [01:55] lo all [01:55] hi Ubulette [01:55] Jazzva: ok thanks [01:55] now lunch ;) [01:55] Hello Ubulette :) [01:58] asac, can't find the Profile Folder :( [02:16] hello everyone [02:16] i'll be back soon :), been freaking busy with work and other projects [02:22] Ubulette: hehe [02:23] Admiral_Chicago: hi [02:23] hey there asac [02:23] Ubulette: most likely its still set in the nsAppInfo class [02:23] Ubulette: previously that was instantiated in nsBrowserApp.cpp [02:23] Ubulette: however ... i guess now that went into some config file [02:24] Admiral_Chicago: other projects? shame ;) [02:24] grrr, our meeting wasn't reserved, let me go kick nixternal [02:24] asac: non software "real world" things [02:24] politics? [02:25] asac, starting to wonder if it's not in application.ini now.. [02:25] no, some things related to school [02:25] Ubulette: might be ... most likely its in a file that contains both strings: Mozilla and Firefox [02:26] I wish I had the time to volunteer on political campaigns but I have no idea who I want to vote from [02:26] Admiral_Chicago: ah ok [02:26] for* [02:26] Admiral_Chicago: hehe [02:26] i have to run and get to work so I can get home early. ttul [02:26] Admiral_Chicago: you have to join a party and shape that one like you want ;) [02:27] Admiral_Chicago: though you will probably die first ... given the fact that most people don't even see what is so obvious to me that its even hard to explain [02:27] Admiral_Chicago: its always funny if you want to lobby for something, but then you find that people do disagree even on the most basic things [02:29] asac, bingo. It's application.ini [02:29] but it's not enough [02:29] it wants things like /projects/firefox-granparadiso/3.0a7/firstrun/ [02:29] huh? [02:30] let me look inside [02:30] it sends the user to http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox-granparadiso/3.0a7/firstrun/ [02:30] which doesn't exist of course [02:30] yes right... its Vendor + Product [02:31] Ubulette: change Product to Granparadiso [02:31] or Firefox-Granparadiso [02:31] i think even =Firefox Granaparadiso might work [02:31] as whitespaces are replaces by dashes [02:31] wants http://www.mozilla.org/projects/granparadiso/3.0a7/firstrun/ [02:32] none exists [02:32] he? [02:32] where do you see that? [02:32] as homepage? [02:32] yes [02:32] ok [02:32] in the default profile [02:32] yes its generated [02:32] we cannot do much about that ... other than hacking the template for that profile file [02:33] Ubulette: however ... lets first do the profile migration for now [02:33] Ubulette: maybe we should setup our own homepage ... which states clearly that the profile will not be synched with their real firefox profile [02:34] otherwise we should just target the homepage to the right location forcefully [02:35] Ubulette: pref("app.releaseNotesURL", "http://www.mozilla.org/projects/%APP%/%VERSION%/releasenotes/"); [02:35] own homepage stored where ? locally or ubuntu ? [02:35] Ubulette: sorry wanted to paste the path: browser/branding/unofficial/pref/firefox-branding.js [02:35] Ubulette: if we do our own homepage we should store it locally === Ubulette_ [n=Ubulette@APuteaux-153-1-84-212.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:38] 14:35 < Ubulette> own homepage stored where ? locally or ubuntu ? [02:38] 14:35 < asac> Ubulette: sorry wanted to paste the path: browser/branding/unofficial/pref/firefox-branding.js [02:38] 14:35 < asac> Ubulette: if we do our own homepage we should store it locally [02:39] k [02:43] Ubulette: in fact we should use the same homepage as firefox ... if we want a first run page we should summarize the features and the profile thing [02:43] on another page [02:47] for now we should just not care ;) ... maybe just replace %APP% to be firefox in that file [02:47] lets get this thing out asap === Ubulette_ is now known as Ubulette [03:03] asac, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/182988 [03:04] it tries to be smart by using application.ini directly [03:05] oh, I should also check the name is not Mozilla + Firefox [03:09] http://pastebin.mozilla.org/182989 [03:10] ok ... isn't != a bashism? [03:10] or is it just == [03:11] don't think it is [03:11] I've been coding like that long before bash ever existed [03:11] ok what about the corner case where there is a file $HOME/.$vname/$pfname ... [03:11] we don't care? [03:11] or do we ant to rename it? [03:12] no, it's not a 1st run if $HOME/.$vname/$pfname is already there [03:12] well ... i mean in corner case if there is a FILE [03:13] not a directory [03:13] oh [03:13] (however that might have happened) :) [03:14] anyway ... make a quilt patch out of it with --diffstat -U8 ... then go [03:14] looks good from what i see [03:16] http://pastebin.mozilla.org/182991 [03:17] ok [03:17] please make a quilt patch out of it ... commit ... push and let me know so I can do testbuild and then upload [03:18] the patch should also include application.ini change [03:18] unless you prefer the script in a separate commit [03:22] do we want granparadiso or firefox-granparadiso ? [03:22] asac ? [03:26] hmm [03:26] granparadiso vs firefox-granparadiso is your choice [03:27] and your choice if you want two or more commits [03:27] aeh or one :) [03:27] i would prefer two commits (my guts feeling) [03:28] oops, too late [03:31] no problem [03:31] so is everything pushed? [03:31] Ubulette: ^^? [03:31] Hmm... what's the NOT operator in bash? [03:31] hmm not yet as it appears [03:31] pushed 42 [03:31] Jazzva: for what? [03:31] Jazzva: in a test? [03:31] Uh-huh [03:32] [ ! x$a = x ] ? [03:32] Hmm... I'll try [03:32] but i think Ubulette knows more variants ;) [03:32] Well, here's the test [03:32] i prefer to use test and not [] brackets [03:32] if [ $(grep -c pat test) ] ; [03:33] I need it to be false when it returns non-zero value :) [03:33] Jazzva: it returns 0 in case there is no mach [03:33] so test = 0 [03:33] $(..) = 0 [03:33] or != 0 [03:33] ...stupid me. [03:33] :) [03:33] $() is bashism [03:33] I got used to programming where == 0 in a test would be a blasphemy :) [03:34] != 0 [03:34] Sorry, I don't know anything about 0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:34] Ubulette: so you need to use ` ? [03:34] ` is the original sh way [03:34] it works on posh [03:34] eah dash i mean [03:34] Ok, so to use `...` instead of $(...) [03:35] but nowadays, every script is more or less bash [03:35] lets try posh [03:35] Ubulette: in ubuntu we regularly have errors because debian uses bash while we have dash [03:35] well posh works as well [03:35] I know [03:36] so i assume $(..) is posix [03:36] Jazzva: use what you want ;) [03:36] but better don't mix both ;) [03:37] Hmm... ok. [03:37] That test still doesn't work... I'll try to find what else I did wrong :). [03:38] for me if test $(grep -c tt1 /tmp/tt) = 0; then echo hello; fi ... works [03:39] Ok :) [03:39] I used [] again... [03:39] both should work [03:39] should be -eq [03:39] = is for strings [03:39] -eq for integers [03:40] Oh... thanks :) [03:40] -ne or -neq for not equal? [03:40] :) [03:40] -eq -ne -ge -gt -lt -le [03:40] man test [03:40] well ... why wouldn't it work? [03:40] i mean equal check should be more or less the same [03:40] here it's the same [03:40] but 0 != 00 while 0 -eq 00 [03:41] right [03:42] asac: The script works :D [03:42] be careful with temp files [03:43] could be a security issue [03:43] You mean to try not to destroy something I need? [03:43] no, users tempering with them [03:43] use mktemp [03:44] Well, right now there is no temp file... It has one file which keeps the processed packages and outputs the new packages in file.new [03:44] will me the name unique and chmod safe [03:44] oh [03:44] just an advise for later then :) [03:44] Thanks :) [03:45] asac, tell me if it works as expected. I'll have to go out soon [03:47] arg, should have tempered more with firefox-branding.js [03:52] asac, I've updated commit 42 [03:52] sorry [03:53] thats bad [03:54] can you resurrect and check-in on top? [03:54] that's what I did [03:54] he? [03:54] i think you updated commit 42? [03:54] uncommit, fix, commit, push --overwrite [03:54] that is not on top [03:54] Ubulette: please never use --overwrite in future ;) [03:54] ? [03:55] looks ok on LP/code [03:55] usually if you publish things you should never --overwrite [03:55] well [03:55] its a pita [03:55] i already pulled [03:55] then checked in stuff on top [03:55] now i cannot merge your changes [03:55] just uncommit my 42 and repull [03:55] which is why overwrite is evil on published things [03:56] please give me the diff [03:56] i already have done changes on top [03:56] or tell me what you did [03:56] needed more changes in mozilla/browser/branding/unofficial/pref/firefox-branding.js [03:56] it's in the new patch [03:57] tell me the changes please [03:57] i can edit the patch here [03:57] or give me link to code [03:57] i can then pick the changes [03:58] http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~fta+launchpad/firefox/granparadiso/changes [03:58] click diff for 42 [03:58] yes [03:59] lines 70-88 of debian/patches/granparadiso-profilename [04:01] actually the app-update urls is not needed [04:02] doesn' hurt [04:02] t [04:06] please remember to no overwrite once you have asked me to merge in future ;) [04:07] ok [04:12] ok ... to save time previously lost i just push without test build ;) [04:14] push where ? [04:15] ubuntu? [04:15] ftp [04:15] dput ;) [04:16] ok i pushed what was uploaded to bzr as well ... to mozillateam branch [04:16] either wipe your branch, overwrite or whatever ... its has now diverged [04:17] but please don't merge as i will otherwise get unreasonable merge conflicts next time because of the uncommit ;) [04:17] damn [04:17] i knew i had a problem [04:17] ? [04:17] now granparadiso mozillatewam branch has diverged because i didn't merge [04:18] and i am forced to overwrite ... or redo all this stuff [04:18] Ubulette: use ~asac branch [04:18] that is the one i uploaded [04:18] need to go now. I'll do that this evening. I let you sort this out :) [04:20] granparadiso uploaded === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:26] asac: Should I put these files in my branch? The ff-ext, m-tb-ext, tb-ext and update-rdeps in my branch? [04:26] ?=... [04:27] Ubulette: ok mt branch is now good [04:44] Ubulette: well ... profile dir is now with whitespace [04:44] i will fix it [04:56] asac: About app-install-data... In changelog I put the version 0.4.3.2, the latest is 0.4.4. Well, just to sort that out before merge :)... [05:03] you should work on latest [05:04] Well, it was latest when I downloaded it... [05:04] It was later I saw that 0.4.4 is out [05:05] yes ... just merge it [05:05] bzr merge ... then fix conflicts et al [05:05] or just push it and ask mvo to merge it [05:05] Hmm... where do I do that? [05:05] what? [05:05] bzr merge? [05:05] Jazzva: you just say bzr merge [05:05] yes [05:05] In my branch dir? [05:05] bzr merge URL [05:05] yes [05:06] in worst case you can uncommit the merge [05:06] and retry [05:06] but better push to launchpad first so you have a backup ;) [05:06] Ok... And I merge it with ubuntu-core-dev's branch? [05:06] Well, it's already on LP : [05:06] :) [05:07] yes merge it with release branch [05:07] which is core-dev iirc [05:07] Ok... [05:24] Ok, the only conflict is in debian/changelog... Should I manually edit or with bzr? [05:26] asac: To edit debian/changelog, then brz resolve debian/changelog? [05:28] Jazzva: yes ... fix changelog ... make a new changelog entry on top and put your changelog entries there [05:28] then just do [05:28] bzr resolved [05:28] without a file [05:28] bzr should detect that the file is clean now [05:28] and allow you to commit [05:28] Ok... [05:28] remember to not specify a file or path when committing [05:28] you have to commit the full merge at once [05:28] e.g. look at [05:28] bzr st [05:29] you should see the merge info that will be kept that way [05:29] asac: If the version was 0.4.4 should I update it to 0.4.4.1? [05:30] no idea about the versioning scheme [05:30] just use 0.4.4.1 i guess [05:30] Ok... [05:30] and tell mvo when you ask for the merge so he can adapt according to his needs/polcies [05:30] Michael Vogt did that for a little fix - 0.4.3 -> 0.4.3.1 [05:39] asac: Ok, I'm pushing the merged branch... After that I'll ask mvo for the merge... [05:40] great [05:40] Jazzva: hurry ;) [05:41] weekend is coming nearer ;) [05:41] Tell that to my cable... [05:41] ;) [05:41] and my cable provider [05:41] you should not --overwrite [05:41] ;) [05:41] I'm not... [05:41] then its really fast [05:41] hmm [05:41] initial push? [05:41] It just has a lot of files that mvo added... [05:41] ah [05:41] ok [05:42] :) [05:42] take a look of the diff to core-dev branch so you can verify if you forgot something [05:42] Huh? :) [05:45] just bzr diff URLTOCOREDEVBRANCH [05:45] might work [05:46] Hmm... ok [05:46] otherwise branch it somewhere then [05:46] But didn't I do that if I merged from core-dev? [05:46] bzr diff /path/to/core-dev/ . [05:46] Jazzva: well you merged [05:46] the final result you can still verify ;) [05:46] if you are sure you didn [05:46] 't mess anything up [05:46] just ask for merge [05:47] mvo is nice ;) [05:47] so don't worry [05:47] Ok, I'll do the bzr diff first :) (99% sure I didn't mess anything) [05:48] Ubulette: well ... profile dir is now with whitespace [05:48] what ? [05:48] i reuploaded [05:48] with Name=granparadiso [05:49] and updated bzr branches [05:49] tr should have taken care of whitespace [05:49] well ... i told you that it would be replaced ... so not your fault ... except for not testing it ;) [05:50] it was replaced till that Name went into application.ini apparently [05:50] I did: grep ^Vendor $moz_libdir/application.ini | cut -d= -f2 | tr 'A-Z ' 'a-z-' [05:50] echo "Foo Bar" | cut -d= -f2 | tr 'A-Z ' 'a-z-' [05:50] foo-bar [05:50] no space [05:50] yeah ... but firefox doesn't replace spaces anymore [05:50] oh [05:51] so the profile used ended up in .mozilla/firefox granparadiso [05:51] while we copied to firefox-gran.. [05:51] i see [05:51] anyway ... is uploaded now [05:51] ...ubuntu2 [05:51] I changed Name at the last minute without re-testing.. and you skipped test too :( [05:52] hehe [05:52] well if you remember ... i deferred test, but and just uploaded [05:53] i found it right after build was finished ;) [05:53] nevermind [05:53] all fine now [05:56] can't see it in buildfarm [05:57] I get an error... And I think I need to pull the core-dev branch... [05:57] And it'll take a while. [05:57] Well, 99% sure I haven't messed anything. I'll ask mvo to take a look and merge if he likes it :) [05:59] oh, it's pending. ok [06:03] Ubulette: oh fails to build [06:03] damn [06:03] ? [06:03] where ? [06:04] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-granparadiso/3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu2 show pending [06:04] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-granparadiso/3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu2/+build/375396 shows queued 9 min [06:04] --disable-airbag we need [06:05] oh, I had that in my tree initially [06:06] 3.0a6: * add --disable-airbag as libcurl is still causing build issues in Gutsy [06:06] 3.0a7: * remove --disable-airbag now that libcurl mess is fixed in Gutsy [06:06] * add libcurl4-gnutls-dev to Build-Depends in debian/control [06:06] well [06:06] then you removedit? [06:06] yep [06:06] but you need curl on Build-Depends [06:07] I can fix that if you want [06:07] better ask me next time then ;) [06:07] no we don't want airbag [06:07] i have fixed it now === Ubulette shouldn't have reused the same chroot env :( [06:08] Ubulette: i don't see anything about airbag [06:08] in changelog [06:09] nor bzr log [06:09] what is going on? [06:09] my own tree, not the one in LP [06:09] where do you get that from? [06:09] ok [06:09] its in trunk branch from us iirc [06:09] we should have merged trunk up before doing anything [06:09] anway, now its gone [06:09] ;) [06:09] next time, I'll trash my chroot as I usually do [06:10] I have a bot for that. [06:10] it creates, pack, unpack, clean envs on demand [06:11] probably cleaner than the ubuntu one [06:11] welll usually we don't need that [06:11] as build-depends are pretty stable [06:11] and having one bad upload is usually not a problem [06:11] if ubuntu3 fails now as well [06:11] then i have to duck though [06:11] it usually catches stuff detected by configure but not mentionned in builddeps [06:11] its good to do a final build in pbuilder though [06:12] ok done bzr branches updated as well [06:12] now hope [06:13] :) [06:14] grrr, ubuntulog should hide ips and emails [06:14] we're all exposed :( [06:15] why do you care? [06:15] i mean we have to live with loads of spam [06:16] if you try to reduce spam its probably something wrong with your spam filter rules ;) [06:17] I catch ~99.5% of incoming spam, but the remains one are still too much for me [06:17] hmm [06:18] and it's also a privacy issue imho [06:19] well ... might be different for you, but I choose to be public so ... so be it :) [06:20] work in freesoftware + privacy doesn't work welll unless you only go for a pseudonym [06:20] maybe get a freenode cloak ;) [06:20] for ips [06:21] I was supposed to be known only a ubulette in the ubuntu community.. it's clearly impossible [06:21] you could have not added your name to launchpad :) [06:21] Public is the new private ;)... [06:22] (kidding... a bit :)) [06:22] and then insisted on "i am a pseudonym" :) [06:22] thought it was obvious [06:22] who would like to be named ubulette in real life ? :) [06:23] no idea [06:23] but yoour name was in launchpad before ;) [06:23] it doesn't internationalize well anyway... [06:24] hehe [06:24] yes [06:24] in french, boulette means typo in slang === Ubulette lacked inspiration when he opened it's LP account... [06:26] its [06:26] gasp [06:26] his [06:26] yep === Ubulette is tired [06:26] tiered ? [06:26] was correct [06:26] tired ;) [06:27] well, as I said [06:27] Jazzva: did you ping mvo [06:27] ? [06:27] Yes... He told me everything's fine [06:27] Just not to put files into menu-data :)... [06:28] I moved them to menu-data-mozilla (which will make it easier to track all extensions :)) [06:28] ubuntu3 is stuck [06:29] he? [06:29] where? [06:29] it was accepted afaict [06:29] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-granparadiso/ [06:29] Jazzva: ok [06:30] Ubulette: its all fine ... it takes some time ;) [06:30] Told on query :) [06:30] ok. I'm out again. See u [06:30] cu [06:30] Have fun :) [06:31] Jazzva: maybe menu-data-xul-extensions ? [06:31] anyway ... I am fine with it as long as this gets merged soon ;) [06:33] asac: Hmm, I don't have time right now to switch it to menu-data-xul-extensions.. *sighs* [06:33] Jazzva: is there a menu-data-codecs dir as well? [06:33] or are those in menu-data directly? [06:33] menu-data-additional [06:34] ok [06:34] Jazzva: just push your bzr branch up [06:34] if i find time, I wil do it [06:34] on weekend [06:34] Ok... Pushing it now... [06:34] have you tried that it still works? [06:34] Hmm, I'll have time later... I just can't do it right now :/. [06:34] e.g. are those .desktop files pulled in during build? [06:34] Jazzva: ok [06:35] asac: mvo will take care of it. It has to be added to debian/rules [06:35] ok [06:35] Gotta go now... [06:35] See you tonight... === cwong1 [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-b998c2bf6ef6701d] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [07:03] hi cwong1 [07:04] cwong1: just a short question about mobile-basic-flash [07:04] cwong1: its currently a bit messy: [07:04] build-depends: firefox-dev [07:04] depends: libxul0d [07:04] we should fix it [07:04] at best make use of midbrowser-dev [07:04] what should it depends on? [07:04] midbrowser-dev in build-depends [07:04] and midbrowser in depends [07:04] further you have to fix configure.ac [07:05] ok [07:05] which tests xulrunner-gtkmozembed [07:05] i think midbrowser-gtkmozembed should be available as well [07:05] if you have committed that, please let me know so i can upload to gutsy [07:05] lpia port needs that to go ahead :) [07:05] ok I will look into it [07:06] cwong1: yes ... try to use midbrowser ... if it doesn't work for any reason, just ping me [07:06] ok [07:06] ... though i am more or less in weekend mode from now on [07:06] fine [07:19] asac: the latest mobile-basic-flash does have "build-depends: firefox-dev". [07:19] asac: it looks like this: Build-Depends: debhelper, libgtk2.0-dev, libxul-dev, automake1.9, pkg-config, libtool, libhildondesktop-dev, libdbus-glib-1-dev, libhildonwm-dev [07:20] yes [07:20] it was fixed by doko [07:20] i think its not in git [07:20] but it was just a quick fix to get something build [07:20] lets do it right [07:20] everything should be midbrowser-dev et al [07:21] you want me to change libxul-dev to midbrowser-dev? [07:23] asac: ? [07:23] try midbrowser-dev ... yes [07:23] and fix configure.ac [07:23] accordingly [07:23] further remove the explicit Depends: to libxul0d [07:23] ok [07:23] replace it by just midbrowser for now [07:24] please try and if it breaks the build let me know === Bernardo [n=Bernardo@sourcemage/Bernardo] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [07:26] hi [07:26] asac: you're here? [07:28] asac: in configure.ac I change to -> PKG_CHECK_MODULES(MOZEMBED, midbrowser-gtkmozembed >= 1.8.1) is the 1.8.1? should still be there? [07:28] Bernardo: a bid [07:29] cwong1: install midbrowser-dev ... and see if midbrowser-gtkmozembed exists [07:29] e.g. pkg-config --cflags midbrowser-gtkmozembed [07:29] if so ... then yes [07:29] cwong1: you can drop the versioning for now i guess [07:29] Bernardo: a bit ;) [07:29] ok [07:30] asac: I'm home now, can do a little debugging on nm [07:31] ok [07:31] do you know how to start wpa_supplicant manually? [07:35] asac: looks like pkg-config on midbrowser-gtkmozembed work. I will do a test build and commit the change in a few minutes. [07:35] Never tried, I used to start it from ifupdown, using either the config in interfaces or a specific file [07:35] it's something like wpa_supplicant -i interface -c conf file [07:35] ? [07:38] well ... thats not the way nm uses it [07:38] meanwhile, nm keeps attaching the wifi to the open networks in the neighbourhood, and my default route gets messed up... [07:38] nm uses it completely without arguments [07:38] not even the interface? [07:38] Bernardo: can you stop network-manager? [07:39] e.g. setup a static connection so you still can be online? [07:39] or is that a different system anyway? [07:39] I can, just a sec [07:40] ok, unloaded knetworkmanager, and there is no "network*" process running [07:42] ok lets go [07:42] Bernardo: open two terminals [07:43] in both become root like: [07:43] sudo su [07:43] done [07:43] I usually do sudo -s [07:43] k [07:43] now start wpa_supplicant like: [07:43] well first check that there is no process running please [07:43] that is called something like wpa [07:43] and tear down your interface [07:44] with ifconfig down wlan0 [07:44] yep, a ps ax | grep came out empty [07:44] with ifconfig down eth1 [07:44] ifconfig eth1 down [07:44] done [07:44] ok [07:44] now start wpa_supplicant like: [07:44] wpa_supplicant -g /var/run/wpasupplicant-eth1-global [07:44] hmm [07:44] maybe use -dd [07:44] to get verbose output [07:44] so wpa_supplicant -dd -g /var/run/wpasupplicant-wlan0-global [07:45] ok, running - and with dd gave a little feedback [07:45] yes [07:45] now in a nother temrinal as root we have to frist add the interface [07:46] wpa_cli -g /var/run/wpasupplicant-eth1-global interface_add wlan0 "" "" /var/run/wpasupplicant [07:46] well replace wlan0 with eth1 of course [07:46] and observe what you see in other terminal [07:46] ok [07:46] there should be output [07:46] Bernardo: did you receive OK from wpa_cli ? [07:46] yes [07:47] ok can you paste what the main wpaXXX spit out so far? [07:47] checking the output now, what do you want me to look for? [07:47] please paste everything for now ;) [07:47] here, or pastenbin.ca ? [07:48] somewhere ... but not here ;) [07:48] http://pastebin.ca/652624 [07:48] should be plenty of lines after all [07:48] I didn't want to be kicked out... :) [07:48] ok [07:49] now try to enter wpa_cli shell [07:49] like [07:49] wpa_cli -i eth1 [07:49] does it connnect? [07:49] "Could not connect to wpa_supplicant - re-trying" [07:50] asac: how long ago did you make the midbrowser-dev available? === jbs [n=Bernardo@89.181.54.55] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === jbs is now known as Bernardo === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [07:58] asac_: how long have the midbrowser-dev been available? === Bernardo [n=Bernardo@89.181.54.55] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [07:58] had disconnect [07:58] didn't get a thing ;) [07:58] I did the wrong grep 10 minutes ago - for "network" instead of "Network" [07:58] last i saw is 19:49 < asac> i mean do you end up in an interactive shell ;) [07:59] 19:48 < asac> ok [07:59] 19:49 < asac> now try to enter wpa_cli shell [07:59] 19:49 < asac> like [07:59] 19:49 < asac> wpa_cli -i eth1 [07:59] 19:49 < asac> does it connnect? [07:59] [18:49] does it connnect? [07:59] [18:49] "Could not connect to wpa_supplicant - re-trying" [07:59] 19:49 < asac> i mean do you end up in an interactive shell ;) [07:59] thats what i said before disconnect [07:59] Bernardo: ok [07:59] Bernardo: try instead of -i [07:59] -p [07:59] let me try again, now I killed all NetworkManager processes [07:59] wpa_cli -p /var/run/wpasupplicant [07:59] e.g. the socket you passed as last argument to interface_add [08:00] Bernardo: yes thats important [08:00] nm has to be dead for this i guess [08:00] wpa_cli -i still doesn't connect [08:00] trying -p now [08:00] yes [08:00] wpa_cli -p /var/run/wpasupplicant-eth1-global [08:01] no [08:01] not the global [08:01] exactly what i said above [08:01] sorry [08:01] no problem [08:02] use whatever you passed as *last* argument to interface_add [08:02] ok, connected [08:02] got the shell [08:03] got the shell [08:04] good [08:04] well ... now its always: [08:04] add_network [08:04] > 0 [08:04] yep [08:04] set_network 0 essid "yournet" [08:04] > OK [08:05] set_network 0 psk "your password" [08:05] enable_network 0 [08:05] .... then see how it associates [08:05] FAIL at the essid [08:05] try ssid [08:05] not essid [08:05] RX ctrl_iface - hexdump_ascii(len=30): [REMOVED] [08:05] CTRL_IFACE: SET_NETWORK id=0 name='essid' [08:05] CTRL_IFACE: value - hexdump_ascii(len=10): [REMOVED] [08:05] CTRL_IFACE: Failed to set network variable 'essid' [08:05] yes ssid [08:06] ok [08:06] cwong1: since the beginning [08:07] Bernardo: does it associate? [08:07] http://pastebin.ca/652648 [08:07] no [08:08] ok [08:08] still in shell? [08:08] say disable_network 0 [08:08] for now [08:08] so the output stopps flushin in the wpasupplicant terminal [08:08] then lets try [08:08] asac: 2 weeks ago? The build failed on my local build server because it failed to apt get the midbrowser-dev package. The only thing I can think of is it pulls packages from a local mirror. [08:09] most likely [08:09] its in official gutsy [08:09] ok [08:09] asac: ok. I will check with my build person [08:09] cwong1: to test you could use firefox-dev instead of midbrowser-dev ... but that is probably not the way we want it [08:09] so lets do it right [08:10] cwong1: i have the feeling that the way you work is not the way its ment to be ;) [08:10] :) [08:11] do you always develop in an image-creator created environment? === asac guesses that thats the case [08:11] Bernardo: what does scan_results give you? [08:12] when you run that in the shell? [08:12] for me it looks like your wpa network is hidden [08:12] yes, it is [08:12] Bernardo: ok ... lets go ahead then [08:13] Bernardo: what does scan_results yield? [08:13] I can also try to connect to a visible network [08:13] I also have one here [08:13] Bernardo: hidden networks are known to not work [08:13] Bernardo: if its wpa then try [08:13] otherwise don't dare [08:13] wpa should be fixed [08:13] bssid / frequency / signal level / flags / ssid [08:13] 00:14:bf:d2:61:23 2437 236 [WPA-PSK-TKIP] [WPA2-PSK-TKIP] [08:13] 00:16:b6:5c:4a:b7 2462 165 [WPA-PSK-TKIP+CCMP] [WPA2-PSK-TKIP+CCMP] ADCAPITA [08:13] 00:c0:49:60:40:eb 2462 171 [WEP] RLXAPF01 [08:13] 00:18:84:10:7c:d1 2417 223 FON_AfonsoL [08:13] do you have an open network ? [08:13] with wpa? [08:13] the first is the hidden one [08:13] k [08:14] is the second one yours as well? [08:14] no, and neither is the third [08:14] ok [08:14] can you unhide your first network to test that it really works for you? [08:14] the fourth is on the same ap as the visible one, which isn't showing in the scan results [08:14] just as a check-point [08:14] yes, just a sec [08:15] huh? i see four networks .... what do you mean "its not in the scan results" ? [08:15] asac: yes using the image creator. :(. The build built fine on my local environment but not the damn build system. [08:15] cwong1: ok [08:16] cwong1: the build system doesn't matter for us imo (though it probably matters for you) as i have to upload the fixed package to gutsy anywa [08:16] its kind of blocking our lpia porting effords ;) ... which is why i cared in the first place [08:17] lpia stands for ? [08:17] its the mobile architecture you guys develop (afaict) [08:17] the processor architecture [08:17] ah [08:17] like i686 ... but some modified commandsets i gues [08:18] at least our toolchain guy is working heavily on get things bootstrapped ... so i has to be something important ;) [08:18] must be [08:18] there is another network, "MyPlace", that is the fonera default wpa, and is the same ap as the "FON_AfonsoL". It isn't showing in the scan results above [08:19] I'm trying to find where to unhide my ssid in dd-wrt... [08:19] lpia -> low power Intel Arch. :) [08:19] ok ... might be that its confusing that they have the same AP [08:19] cwong1: thanks! [08:19] cwong1: finally i feel omnicious :) === jbs [n=Bernardo@89-180-69-73.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:20] Bernardo: i cannot really help you there ;) === jbs is now known as Bernardo [08:20] jbs: Bernado? [08:20] ah [08:20] found - it's called "wireless ssid broadcast" [08:21] Bernardo: you appear to not have a stable network :) [08:21] how comes :-D [08:21] lol [08:21] wonder why... :) [08:21] Bernardo: how does this hidden network show up in nm-applet? [08:21] it usually shows well, with the correct name [08:22] as I had it set up in feisty [08:22] he? [08:22] so initially it doesn't know the name? [08:22] i am just curious to get the scene [08:23] I think it didn't, just showed as hidden [08:23] k [08:23] then I did a "connect to another network" and entered the data [08:23] ssid, psk, etc. [08:23] and it worked well since, until I upgraded to gutsy [08:24] now when I check scan_results, my network shows up [08:24] should I try network_enable again? [08:26] ok, it connects, but then disconnects [08:26] wait a sec [08:26] phone [08:27] ok [08:27] what exactly did you enter now in wpa_cli as ssid ? [08:28] http://pastebin.ca/652662 - this is the output of the wpa_supplicant daemon [08:28] the ssid I had previously hidden [08:28] what did you type at command line? [08:28] ok [08:29] so scan_results shows the ssid now properly? [08:29] yes [08:29] ok .... try starting everything fresh [08:29] this is the output I get in wpa_cli when I enable the network [08:29] or wait [08:29] http://pastebin.ca/652663 [08:29] set the psk again [08:29] i think it was cleared [08:29] try to disable_network 0 [08:30] set_network 0 psk "asdasd" [08:30] enable_network 0 [08:30] ok [08:30] if that doesn't help lets restart wpasupplicant (for real) [08:30] brb [08:30] oh ok [08:30] thanks [08:31] ok, exactly the same [08:32] I've closed wpa_supplicant, and I'm restarting it now [08:32] Bernardo: wait [08:32] Bernardo: please try to just use network-manager [08:32] with applet [08:32] (now that the network is visible) [08:32] ok, let me launch the applet again [08:32] those 00:00:00 events is exactly what we tried to workaround in latest nm upload [08:33] Bernardo: well network manager as well ;) [08:33] asac: which ubuntu repository is the midbrowser-dev in? It is not in our local mirror and that is why it failed. [08:33] cwong1: universe [08:33] its not yet in main [08:33] how do I relaunch network manager, do I restart networking? [08:33] but there are other things that are not yet in main i guess [08:33] ok [08:34] cwong1: gutsy - universe ... tell that to your build monkeys ;) [08:34] Bernardo: no [08:34] /etc/dbus*/even*/25Net* restart [08:34] Bernardo: ^^ [08:34] and use stop next time you want nm to stop ;) [08:35] not kill ;) [08:35] ok [08:36] restarted [08:36] brb [08:37] I'm here [08:37] is that good? [08:38] should I try to connect to my network using the applet? [08:38] yes [08:38] be sure that wpa supplicant et al are not running anymore [08:38] otherwise there will be issues [08:38] yes, I exited both === jbs [n=Bernardo@89-180-69-73.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === jbs is now known as Bernardo [08:43] ok, connected [08:43] but it disabled eth0 as soon as I clicked on my network [08:44] here's my syslog [08:44] http://pastebin.ca/652680 [08:45] so you are now on wifi ? [08:45] its normal that nm only allows you to have one nm-managed iface up at a time ... so not to bother if eth0 is now disabled [08:52] I'm on wifi, yes [08:52] ok cool [08:52] then it works for wpa without hidding network [08:52] the only problem was that when eth0 got disconnected, I got kicked out... :) [08:52] good to know [08:52] right ... but thats currently a feature [08:52] of nm [08:52] just *one* interface at a time [08:53] ok [08:53] too bad ppp isn't integrated yet [08:53] well ... i hope that this is not my job ;) [08:53] lol [08:53] i will now try to figure out what is going on with hidden networks [08:53] thanks so far [08:54] Bernardo: one question: when you setup your hidden network through "Other Network ..." [08:54] when I gave wpa_supplicant a config file, I had to pass it a AP_SCAN entry, or something like that [08:54] yes [08:54] what did you provide as ssid? a name? [08:54] the ssid of the network [08:54] which is? [08:54] Bernardo [08:55] ok [08:55] :) [08:55] that ws enough? [08:55] yes, in feisty that was enough [08:55] whatelse did you need to specify? [08:55] the psk [08:55] and that it used tkip [08:55] I don't even know if this was needed [08:56] hmm [08:56] ok [08:57] Bernardo: ok thanks! .... once i figured out what is going on with hidden net here, I will come back :) [08:57] ok [08:57] for me it doesn't even connect on feisty [08:57] no? [08:57] though i have a different chipset [08:57] what is your chipset? [08:57] welll ... my nm might be broken because i hacked around, but it didn't work so far [08:57] I had a ralink pcmcia on a older laptop [08:57] realtek 3xxx =? [08:58] rtl8187 [08:58] is my driver [08:58] for that one I needed to set things up in interfaces, as the drivers used a lot of iwpriv stuff [08:58] its a netgera usb thing [08:58] hmm [08:58] I have both, the pcmcia and the usb [08:58] of what? [08:58] rtl? [08:58] the pcmcia can't use anymore - this laptop is cardexpress [08:58] yes [08:59] interesting [08:59] does usb work with your hidden network? [08:59] on feisty? [08:59] it did - but as I said, I had to use a lot of iwpriv stuff in interfaces [08:59] have to go now, dinner time... bbl [08:59] hmmm ... well then thats not my business ;) ... i want the *real* solution ;) [08:59] but unfortunately my gutsy box is currently severly crashed :) [09:00] ah, before I forget, I think that in gutsy you have the new rtl24x driver [09:00] which shouldn't need iwpriv [09:00] have to run, bye [09:00] yeah ... which is why I shouldn't bother that much about hidden nets here [09:00] thanks [09:00] cu [09:08] back [09:08] Ubulette: welcome ;) [09:09] I see i386 build is ok [09:09] yeah [09:09] buildd network appears to be a bit slow nowadays ;) [09:09] i would have expected at least amd64 builds by now [09:09] but well i uploaded firefox at the same time [09:10] so ... two long builds going ;) [09:11] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/firefox-granparadiso/+builds?build_state=all [09:11] other archs are still waiting [09:12] but they should work out well ;) [09:20] nice link [09:20] LP is a real maze. not easy to find that kind of stuff [09:23] yeah [09:23] it lacks a site-map ;) [09:23] there are even things you cannot find i guess :) [09:23] for instance: [09:23] https://launchpad.net/+builds [09:24] or https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue [09:24] i have no idea how you can reach those without typing in url bar [09:25] I knew /+builds, nice. I've made mine too :) [09:26] yours? [09:27] anyone here who plays chess and has ever beaten gnuchess (without book)? [09:36] Ubulette: wanna try if ubufox works on paradiso? [09:36] nevermind ;) [09:37] asac: I have here the Ralink usb stick [09:37] do you want me to try it out? [09:38] of course... if you are on gutsy all feedback is welcom [09:39] though i heard that ralink still has a damn buggy driver [09:39] but maybe things are fixed .... iirc edubuntu needs ralink [09:39] Bernardo: do you know if a ipwXXXX usb-stick exists? [09:40] i would like to buy about 10-20 sticks if that would bring me a great variaty of chipsets ;) [09:40] but i think the most important ones are the built-ins :( [09:40] which might not exist as external devices [09:41] (but i am pretty igorant about hardware markets) === jbs [n=Bernardo@89-180-69-73.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:45] Bernardo: there? === Jazzva [n=sasa@cable-89-216-184-157.dynamic.sbb.co.yu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:54] Evening :)... [09:55] asac: mvo merged and uploaded a-i-d :)... === asac hugs Jazzva [09:55] thanks a lot [09:55] No prob :)... [09:56] you want to do the final dance as well? [09:56] Final dance? menu-data-mozilla => menu-data-xul-extensions? [09:56] its about adding a link in firefox -> Add-On dialog to start it :) [09:56] Jazzva: no [09:56] we keep it as it is now [09:56] Oooooh... fuuun :) [09:56] its not that important after all [09:57] As for directory change [09:57] I thought to rename it and then just push next time mvo makes a new upload... === Bernardo [n=Bernardo@sourcemage/Bernardo] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:57] asac: got connected, but apparently it didn't recognize a valid key for my ap [09:57] http://pastebin.ca/652758 [09:58] Jazzva: i think renaming is pretty low priority [09:58] Jazzva: we should keep it on todo list [09:58] Jazzva: maybe when we add new extensions or something we can do it in same step [09:58] asac: Well, that's why I thought to push it with next version... It's not too big for upload. [09:58] asac: Right... [09:58] ah ... ok [09:58] Jazzva: what you can do is you rename it on your private branch [09:59] Jazzva: fix the rules file [09:59] Jazzva: and then keep it until we ask mvo to merge next time [09:59] asac: I'll pull the mvo's branch, just to see what he fixed in rules :). [09:59] Bernardo: looking [09:59] Jazzva: right [09:59] Jazzva: get your branch in sync first [09:59] Jazzva: you can either just pull [10:00] or merge (if pull fails) [10:00] in your existing branch [10:00] asac: Will do... Ok, off to dinner now. I'll try to take a look at those two wrong-deps bugs I filed last night :). [10:00] Jazzva: e.g. no need to start from scratch [10:00] asac: Sure thing :)... [10:01] Bernardo: thats strange [10:01] Bernardo: maybe restart NetworkManager ... or even dbus [10:01] Bernardo: did the applet ask you for a password at all? [10:01] no, not at all [10:02] it usually did, when I got that error with the IPW3945 [10:02] Bernardo: or is the password usually taken from some keyring thing? [10:02] but that was with the hidden ssid [10:02] yes ... try to restart these things and try again [10:02] the password is usually taken from kde wallet [10:02] if it isn't too time consuming [10:02] ok, brb [10:02] it most likely will still fail [10:02] but better be sure [10:02] Bernardo: at best restart dbus as well [10:02] Bernardo: i think just restartung dbus will restart nm anyways [10:03] so restart dbus from /etc/init.d/ === jbs_ [n=Bernardo@89-180-69-73.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === jbs_ is now known as Bernardo [10:08] ok, no luck [10:08] http://pastebin.ca/652773 [10:09] http://pastebin.ca/652775 - ipw3945 won't connect too when I have the ralink connected [10:13] Bernardo: what driver is ralink? [10:17] dmesg | grep wlan0 [10:17] might yield something [10:19] asac, "Pending (305)", 305 seems to be a weight. It is a good one or very low priority ? [10:19] asac, or is it better to have 1 or 1000000000 [10:19] ? [10:30] Ubulette: i am innocent; no idea about infrastructure specifics ;) [10:31] asac: Branch is updated... I just have one more thing to finish and then I could do the add-on menu :)... [10:31] asac: I would need some hints... [10:31] :) [10:31] Jazzva: welll ... i guess its almost ready ;) [10:31] Jazzva: but i think that is good that way [10:32] Jazzva: its simple, so you learn a bit extension mechanisms