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blankyNomad7: oh haha12:01
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chetnickdoes anyone know how to change the Desktop icon size on ubuntu?12:01
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blankyIn fact, ironically, my old ATI card WAS, compared to this new Nvidia one...12:01
cafuegoEJ: Check ~/.xsession-errors ... most likle the problem is with the display mamnger or desktop environment.12:01
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Nomad7haha12:01
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EJ[ cafuego] : im not worried about quality as this is a server system, i only want X to help in he config a bit, i usually work via command line12:01
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Nomad7Restricted Drivers Manager is telling you the card isn't supported?12:02
cafuegoblanky: It should work fine with the 'nvidia-glx-new' driver surely...12:02
alexander__Hey there is anyone into internet connections?12:02
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cafuegoalexander__: No, none of us have internet connections.12:02
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blankycafuego: oh, okay, in the nvidia binary driver howto it said it wasn't supported12:03
alexander__that wasent my question12:03
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chryssoops sorry wrong channel :)12:03
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cafuegoblanky: I'm having a look in the docs now.12:03
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orudiedoes anyone know how to install nvidia driver12:03
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blankycafuego: thanks, I feel betrated12:03
Lta3After updating to 7.04, passwords seem to have reset, making it impossible to login. Also, display settings have been reset, causing the OS to default to a resolution that is not compatible with the monitor.12:03
Lta3Attempting to boot into a live cd for 6.10 causes kernel panic. The live CD works fine on the computer im using right now. Problem computer is my sister's pentium 386 mhz computer. Tomorrow, i'll be moving her into a AMD k2-2/50012:04
Lta3i'm stumped, #ubuntu12:04
alexander__ubuntu is killing my net speed, anyone know how to debug that?12:04
jsescobarhello, i have a question, can i have one user in ubuntu that doesn't need password to enter to gnome??12:04
Nomad7orudie: System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager.. that should get you there12:04
Lta3what could cause trouble logging in, and a kernel panic on the live CD?12:04
cafuegoblanky: What did you have again?12:04
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blanky8600 GT12:04
blankycafuego: 8600 GT12:04
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fougwhat does the gk in gksuo mean? and is there a site where i can find all of this out?12:05
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killown|awayhow do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?12:05
cafuegoblanky: Hrm. it's not mentioned in the README :-/12:05
blankykillown|away: that's a pretty complex question, I suggest you look at the Debian Package Manager tutorial, if that's what you mean12:05
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blankycafuego: :'( I feel backstabbed, I just switched from ATI with better hopes, total dissappointment12:05
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blankythanks anyways cafuego12:06
cafuegoblanky: it'll be fine with the driver from nvidia.com12:06
alexander__can anyone tell my why ubuntu is killing my net speed?12:06
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blankycafuego: will there ever be a package of it?12:06
cafuegoblanky: ... which will work far better then any (closed) ati driver anyway.12:06
linux_how i can add another language that i will be able to write in ?12:06
cafuegoblanky: Sure, for the next Ubuntu version undoubtedly.12:06
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cafuegoblanky: Thing with the latest hardware is that support usually needs to catch up.12:07
blankycafuego: wow, until then...*sigh*, okay I'll try to use the driver from their site12:07
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blankycafuego: so there should be no problem using their driver right?12:07
cafuegoblanky: it's an easy setup12:07
blankyI mean, from their site, it'll just be harder to install?12:07
bruenigfoug, I assume it has something to do with gtk12:07
blankyoh, really12:07
fougi can't create a folder in my external HD. I downloaded ntfs-config and enabled write support.12:07
cafuegoblanky: Just make sure you install 'build-essential' and 'linux-headers-$(uname -r)'12:08
blankycafuego: oh okay12:08
blankythanks12:08
fougbruenig: i see, know of a site where i can learn about abreviations for commands?12:08
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cafuegoblanky: Their installer has an ncurses interface and is pretty much automagic.12:08
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bruenigfoug, no12:08
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blankycafuego: so just download that and run it, right, not like with ati where I have to do kernel things and modules and what not?12:08
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mhowardfirst day on ubuntu12:09
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cafuegoblanky: The installer will do kernel and X driver stuff for you12:09
jorre!ndiswrapper12:09
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ubotwoWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:09
blankycafuego: sweeet, thanks!12:09
blankyhey ubotu is back!!12:09
mikeypizanohello12:09
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blankyI mean12:09
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Lta3mhoward: having fun?12:09
blanky!botsnack12:09
ubotwoYum! Err, I mean, APT!12:09
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EJ[ jorre] : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper12:09
mikeypizanois ikonia here?12:09
syuroffwill a standard ubuntu install address > 4 gigs RAM?  or is the 64bit version needed?12:10
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KleRoihello, i installed ubuntu on a partition of D: using the live CD but now it seems that im not able anymore to run Windows XP that i have installed on C:... anyone knows why?12:10
cafuegosyuroff: grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-$(uname -r)12:10
EJ!ati12:10
CheeseGardenerCould someone give me some help with gnomad2 and libmtp5????12:10
ubotwoTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:10
alexander__can anyone tell my why ubuntu is killing my net speed?12:10
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bruenigalexander__, your question is stupidly worded12:11
CheeseGardenerI've been looking up information on it but I can't find much helpful info.12:11
jsescobarhello, i have a question, can i have one user in ubuntu that doesn't need password to enter to gnome??12:11
t0nedefKleRoi did you install to /dev/hda or /dev/hdb or something entirely different?12:11
fougi can't do anything to my external HD except load files, i've downloaded ntfs-config and enabled write support but it didn't changed a thing.12:11
cafuegosyuroff: The standard is 4G on 32bit it seems, you can recompile the kernel and enable 16 or 64 or whetever the other limits are.12:11
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cafuegosyuroff: 64bit does up to 64 by default I think12:11
KleRoit0nedef: im not sure i remember, is there a way to discover it?12:11
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t0nedefKleRoi yeah, open a terminal12:12
fromotionhow do i fix the font to show ansi properly in bitchx?12:12
alexander__uh i am really sorry grammer boy12:12
t0nedeflemme know when your ready12:12
Lta3what could cause trouble logging in a freshly-updated 7.04, and a kernel panic on a 6.10 live CD?12:12
KleRoit0nedef: ok i did12:13
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syuroffcafuego: tnx.  I'm trying to install 6.06LTS 64 bit, and I'm getting hung on reading all physical volumes.  I was going to try the standard one, but I don't want to be limited to 4 gigs12:13
t0nedeftype in the terminal mount12:13
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t0nedefKleRoi: mount12:13
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EJLOLOLOLOL12:13
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KleRoit0nedef: erm, whats that? sorry im really new to linux12:13
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t0nedefKleRoi: just type mount and hit enter12:13
KleRoiok12:13
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t0nedefKleRoi it will list where everything is mounted12:13
t0nedefKleRoi: tell me where it says / is mounted12:14
EJ[ cafuego] : i wasent aware that typing X wouldent start the X server correctly, you must type in startx !12:14
nivek__Hey guys.. Having a problem with ubuntu when booting. I get to the ubuntu loading screen and it freezes at like 15%. How can i figure out where its fucking up at?12:14
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nivek__7.012:14
EJ[ cafuego] : its up and running nw12:14
blanky!language | nivek__12:14
ubotwonivek__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:14
KleRoit0nedef: it says that its mounted on /dev/bus/usb, but well i guess its because now im running the live cd12:14
nivek__=.=12:14
cafuegoEJ: Ah heh. Well, 'X' does start the server correcly, it just doesn't start any clients ;-)12:14
nivek__sorry :P12:14
t0nedefKle: yah, that doesn't help much, its ok though i can still figure this out with you12:15
cafuegoEJ: So you should be good to go with 100% free drivers now :-)12:15
EJim so used to the Slackware Distro, im still getting used to this Distor's commands.12:15
CheeseGardenerCould someone give me a hand with Gnomad2 and libmtp5????12:15
syuroffcafuego: does this confirm I can address 64 gigs?  CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y12:15
KleRoit0nedef: oh allright, btw im on the live cd because i have another problem with the installed version, as i cant start the desktop for some weird gfx driver problem12:15
cafuegoIt used to be 'startx' in Slack too, back when I used it.12:15
cafuegosyuroff: Yup12:16
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syuroffgreat.  much appreciated.12:16
marC--Anyone have any clue why ubuntu only sees 3.5GB of my ram when i have 4GB in my machine?12:16
cafuegosyuroff: Well, provided the cpu and mobo do PAE or whatever12:16
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t0nedefKleRoi: ah, that sucks, its ok, we are gonna do something a little more fun now, i want you to listen to everything i say exactly, so we don't accidently delete something important12:16
__mikemwhat is IKVM?12:16
syuroffcafuego: hey, no fair throwing in disclaimers now.12:16
bnovcdoes anyone know what kind of negative affects come from installing ubuntu through wubi? what kind of speed loss?12:16
KleRoit0nedef: allright thanks12:16
cafuegosyuroff: heh12:16
nivek__bnovc, i just installed it 3 hours ago using wubi12:17
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t0nedefKleRoi: still have a terminal window open?12:17
cafuegosyuroff: well, if the hardware won't do it, you can't blame the kernel.. ;-)12:17
nivek__and now it wont boot anymore.12:17
KleRoit0nedef yeah i do12:17
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t0nedefKleRoi: I want you to type cfdisk /dev/hda12:17
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t0nedefKleRoi do not change anything in here,12:17
t0nedefKleRoi just tell me if you see a whole lotta linux12:18
bnovcnivek__: heh, well i installed it on a few computers using wubi but i'm just wondering what type of speed loss users will get ... because i'm thinking i'll tell my friends who havent tried linux to use wubi12:18
KleRoit0nedef ok but it tells me fatal error, cannot open disk drive12:18
syuroffcafuego: that was from an install on an old dell that I queried.  I need my new server to not be limited to 4G, but I'm hanging on 6.06LTS 64 bit "reading all physical volumes".  7.04 finds the raid.12:18
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cafuegot0nedef: 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' would be safer.12:18
gonzalohola todos12:18
t0nedefKleRoi: yeah, i forgot about that12:18
cafuegosyuroff: possibly 6.06 has an older driver then... crud.12:18
t0nedefCaf: i mean12:18
cafuegot0nedef: .. and on feisty it would be /dev/sda12:18
t0nedefKleRoi: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda12:18
cafuegoheh12:19
syuroffcafuego: may be.  kinda wanted LTS for this server.  Don't need new and shiny, long and stable.12:19
t0nedefCafuego: only if your running sata12:19
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cafuegot0nedef: No, pata as well.12:19
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KleRoit0nedef it tells me that there is no such file or directory12:19
cafuegot0nedef: 2.6.20 and higher use different pata drivers (libata) that present everying as sdX12:19
t0nedefcafuego: thats not how it is on my laptop, its pata... or did you say 6, i'm runnin seven and it says hda12:19
cafuegoKleRoi: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda12:20
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t0nedefKleRoi: type same command with sda instead12:20
t0nedefKleRoi just like Cafuego just said12:20
KleRoiok i did but tells me permission denied, unable to open12:20
fougchmod a+x file.bin isn't working, any help please?12:21
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cafuegoKleRoi: You need the 'sudo' part.12:21
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t0nedefKleroi: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda12:21
KleRoicafuego yes i did that12:21
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t0nedefKleRoi: check your spelling12:21
moriancumerWhat is the best way to bulk resize jpg's12:21
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cafuegomoriancumer: `convert' from imagemagick12:21
MenZamoriancumer: I like imagemagick's convert tool12:21
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fouganyone? need help installing a .bin12:21
KleRoit0nedef ok a bunch of stuff showed up12:21
MenZafoug: Which bin is this?12:22
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MenZaWhat application?12:22
t0nedefKleRoi does any of it say linux?12:22
fougMenZa: google earth, i thought chmod a+x was how to install bin's12:22
cafuegomkdir output; for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize WxH $i output/$i; done12:22
MenZaah12:22
MenZafoug: simple12:22
CheeseGardenerCould someone give me a hand with Gnomad2 and libmtp5????12:22
MenZafoug: first chmox +x the file, then ./filename12:22
KleRoit0nedef yes, there are 4 things and the last one, /dev/sda4 is linux12:22
fuffal0how do i set the permissions on a directory for a specific user12:22
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cafuegofoug: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/feisty-cafuego/google/googleearth_4.1.7076.4458-0cafuego3_i386.deb12:22
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fougMenZa: chmox a+x google.bin   <>  ./google.bin?12:23
t0nedefKleRoi you installed on your c drive instead of your d drive, reinstall windows to get it back, you need to choose another drive for your ubuntu12:23
MenZafoug: correct12:23
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MenZafoug: but as cafuego states, maybe using a .deb is better12:23
Yarcanox*chmod a+x12:23
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MenZafoug: Use his package12:23
cafuegowell, more convenient anyway12:23
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LethalLiquidhey, is there a iso of ubuntu configured for vmware?12:23
MenZaThat, and better integration with the package manager12:23
t0nedefKleRoi, and think of it this way, at least your learning something new12:23
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KleRoit0nedef: argh this really sucks :| i was sure i installed it on another partition... and I don't even have the recovery cd for windows with me12:23
cafuegoI try to keep it up to date, and with an apt line it'll auto-update.12:23
fougMenZa: chmox, command not found.12:24
MenZafoug: no, chmod +x12:24
Yarcanoxfoug do chmod12:24
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MenZafoug: but instead12:24
fougcafuego: MenZa: don't know how to install cd files either :P12:24
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MenZafoug: rm google.bin12:24
Yarcanoxchmod +x google.bin12:24
t0nedefKleRoi: well mebbe its about time you got on that graphics driver problem12:24
Yarcanox./google.bin12:24
MenZafoug: then wget http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/feisty-cafuego/google/googleearth_4.1.7076.4458-0cafuego3_i386.deb12:24
tckwhat is the stylised icon representing gobuntu does anyone know ?12:24
cafuegofoug: If you fetch that .deb file, you just double-click it.12:24
MenZafoug: then sudo dpkg -i http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/feisty-cafuego/google/googleearth_4.1.7076.4458-0cafuego3_i386.deb12:28
LethalLiquidis there an iso setup to run in vmware?12:28
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MenZaerr12:28
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MenZafoug: sudo dpkg -i /googleearth_4.1.7076.4458-0cafuego3_i386.deb12:28
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MenZabut remove the /12:28
MenZajesus, I cannot type today12:28
MenZaok, foug, from the top12:28
fougMenZa: cafuego: I got the bin working, what does chmod mean? i could have sworn it was a+x, someone told me it was all users + execute12:28
cafuegoheh12:28
araizendoes any know what the dpkg equivalent of 'rpm -qi packagename' would be?12:28
MenZachmod merely changes permission12:28
MenZa+x makes it executable12:28
cafuegoaraizen: what does that do?12:28
LethalLiquidIs there anyone who is not busy and can help me with a quick question?12:28
MenZanicely packaged, cafuego12:28
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MenZaLethalLiquid: Fire away.12:28
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LethalLiquidMenZa: Is there a version of ubuntu configured for vmware that I can download somewhere?12:28
t0nedefKleRoi what graphics card you using?12:28
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araizencafuego: it showws a summary of the package12:28
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t0nedefKleRoi we can at least get you functional12:28
cafuegoaraizen: apt-cache show packagename12:28
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cafuegoaraizen: It displays basic info and a description.12:28
moriancumercafuego: what is the command for convert?12:28
KleRoit0nedef: well thanks for the help on this one, any chance you know why when i try to start linux it tells me that "server X doesnt load"? in particular no devices found and no screens found... i searched a bit and i think its because there are no drivers for my ati mobility radeon x1600 gfx12:28
KleRoiuhm12:28
KleRoianyone there?12:28
MenZaLethalLiquid: Use the regular Ubuntu ISO image.12:28
cafuegomoriancumer: mkdir output; for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize WxH $i output/$i; done12:28
MenZaKleRoi: yes12:28
LethalLiquidMenZa: Yea, but I don't know how to configure VMware player to open the ISO.12:28
MenZaKleRoi: Do you have a GUI now?12:28
cafuegomoriancumer: That'll convert all jpegs in the current dir to a new size jpeg of the same name in a subdit called 'output'.12:28
t0nedefKleRoi, not sure on that one... *12:28
MenZaLethalLiquid: You have to create a Virtual machine first.12:28
t0nedefMenZa: he is on the live-cd12:28
MenZaright12:28
KleRoit0nedef: ok im back, the irc chat didnt update for some time..12:28
MenZathat's not good12:28
MenZahmm12:28
t0nedefMenZa: just updating you to where were at when we determined he accidently installed over the top of windows12:28
MenZawhat's the name of the free ati driver?12:28
LethalLiquidMenZa: If you are still on when I finish downloading, could you help me configure it?12:28
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KleRoit0nedef: i use an ati mobility radeon x160012:28
blankycafuego: you therE?12:28
cafuegoMenZa: 'radeon'12:28
MenZat0nedef: ow12:29
blankycafuego: would the drivers happen to be in backports? just wondering12:29
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cafuegoblanky: About to run off12:29
MenZaLethalLiquid: possibly12:29
araizencafuego: thanks12:29
blankycafuego: if not, I'm about to install it the manual way12:29
LethalLiquidMenza: Which type of pc should i use?  I am on a Compaq Windows XP12:29
cafuegoblanky: I doubt it, they must be in sync with the kernel version.12:29
LethalLiquidMenza: Standard personal computer?12:29
t0nedefMenZa: Ya, so We want to get his graphics fix, do you know anything about it, my graphics knowledge is only passing12:29
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__mikemhow do I add a dirrectory to the search path12:29
MenZaLethalLiquid: Sure.12:29
cafuegoblanky: So you'd need a backported kernel as well as a backported nvidia driver.12:29
blankycafuego: oh okay, thanks then, bye12:29
moriancumercafuego: is the WxH in pixel, inches....?12:29
MenZat0nedef: I think he has to get the alternate install CD12:29
blankycafuego: ohh okay12:29
cafuegomoriancumer: pixels12:29
jrib__mikem: search path of what?12:29
MenZaYes.12:29
LethalLiquidMenZa: thnx12:29
bjwebbhi12:29
scamdo you use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to redo my keyboard?12:29
__mikemjrib, the shell12:29
t0nedefMenZa, ah ok12:29
MenZascam: That's one way12:30
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MenZascam: What's the problem with it?12:30
jrib__mikem: for only your user or for everyone?12:30
t0nedefKleRoi did you catch all that?12:30
LethalLiquidMenZa: peace for now12:30
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scamMenZa:  what are some other ways.. i want support for my lx-700 wireless keyboard/mouse12:30
KleRoit0nedef no, not at all, what did you write?12:30
t0nedefMenZa: its saying that no drivers are found and stuff12:30
__mikemjrib, theres only one user on the system12:30
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scami want all my buttons to work on my mouse.. and my volume button to work my sound and stuff12:30
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MenZat0nedef: yes, he has to use the alternate install CD and then install it once the system is installed.12:30
t0nedefKleRoi: My convo with MenZa, you might need the alternative install cd he was saying, i was asking around12:30
bjwebbdoes (k)ubuntu feisty have ntfs write drivers on the cd?12:31
MenZascam: Logitech?12:31
scamit worked on the live cd.. but i had a different keyboard plugged in.. and now it doesnt work12:31
scamMenZa: yuppers12:31
t0nedefMenZa: thanks much12:31
moriancumercafuego: thanx. I really appreciate it!12:31
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sunnypiesanyone, I have a ubuntu desktop with apache web server, however it seems like its blocking when i try to access from a different comptuer12:31
MenZabjwebb: I'm not sure; if not, they can be found as the package ntfs-utils, if I recall correctly12:31
KleRoit0nedef:  ah yes, i have read something like that in some forum, and thats why i wanted to go on windows, to download the thing and to write it on a cd12:31
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sunnypiesanyone know?12:31
jrib__mikem: export PATH="/path/to/new/directory:${PATH}"          in .bashrc for example would work (or any file your shell sources)12:31
MenZasunnypies: it sounds like a bad config; is it apache2?12:31
t0nedefKleRoi: One sec, i need to afk real fast, then i'll help you out12:31
__mikemokay thanks12:31
KleRoit0nedef: allright im not going anywhere12:32
Kaslehow do i install my bcm43xx? i've tried ndiswrapper12:32
sunnypiesMenZa: yes12:32
MenZa!bcm | Kasle12:32
ubot3Factoid bcm not found12:32
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sunnypiesMenZa: its 2.2.312:32
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MenZasunnypies: Right...12:32
MenZasunnypies: Installed from the repositories?12:32
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randomanHey guys, Im updateing the Kernel, and when i put bzImage in the /boot dir, and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to add the new kernel. it gives me problems. SO i just copy the same initrd as the original kernel, or do I need to build a new initrd?12:32
sunnypiesMenZa: yes sir12:32
MenZasunnypies: the latest version is 2.2.4... Vanilla install? As in, you haven't reconfigured it, have you?12:33
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n2diyI may get a chance to deploy Ubuntu in a public library, how can I create a guest account without sudo privledges?12:33
randomani just copy and paste the first kernels info in the menu.lst right and edit the kernel to point to the new one right?12:33
sunnypiesMenZa: i haven't configured it,  what is vanilla?  will 2,2,4 fix the problem?12:33
MenZaVanilla just means you haven't touched it yet12:34
onur_how can i use proxy server for itself ?12:34
t0nedefKleRoi: ok i'm back12:34
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MenZaAnd I doubt upgrading to 2.2.4 will fix anything, as it's in the configuration files12:34
MenZaone second please, sunnypies12:34
KleRoit0nedef:  ok im here12:34
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t0nedefKleRoi: i'm gonna have to look it up real fast, ok, i'm used to gentoo, and some of this ubuntu stuff isn't memorized yet12:34
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fromotionHow do i get BitchX to display ANSI properly?12:34
jerbeardoes anyone know if it's possible to use libpam-ssh in a server (non-gui) environment?12:35
KleRoit0nedef:  ok thanks12:35
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cheatersrealmhow stable is 64bit support for intel chips?12:36
cheatersrealmesp. with nvidia cards12:36
fromotionheh12:36
MenZasunnypies: can you do cat /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | grep Listen && cat /etc/apache2/httpd.conf | grep Listen for me and paste the output?12:36
Azzkikris there any tool to send files over bluetooth, besides gnome-obex-send? Preferrably a terminal application without the use of the X server.12:36
t0nedefKleRoi: ok, heres how i understand it, your gonna want to go to www.ubuntu.com, and go to the download page12:37
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MenZaAzzkikr: Not as far as I can see; and I've looked quite a bit12:37
LeoHey12:37
LeoCan anyone here help me?12:37
KleRoit0nedef:  okay im doing that12:37
t0nedefKleRoi: before you continue, the alternative version uses a text-based installer12:37
MenZa!anyone | Leo12:37
ubot3Leo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:37
MenZa:)12:37
LeoMenZa: Can you help me?12:37
AzzkikrMenZa: hm. thanks anyhow12:37
KleRoit0nedef:  ok, that means its less user-friendly?12:37
MenZaState your problem, Leo.12:37
MenZanp Azzkikr.12:37
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t0nedefKleRoi: yeah, but it shouldn't be too hard12:38
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Leo!info12:38
ubot3info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 170 kB, installed size 364 kB12:38
KleRoit0nedef ok so what should i do, download the alternate cd?12:38
gordonjcpLeo: no-one can help you until you tell us the problem12:38
gordonjcp!ask | Leo12:38
ubot3Leo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:38
MenZaLeo: What is the problem you are experiencing? What do you need help with?12:38
sunnypiesMenZa: I copied your command "cat /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | grep Listen && cat /etc/apache2/httpd.conf | grep Listen" and there was no output12:38
t0nedefKleRoi: its actually pretty simple, i think you'll be ok just check the box for the alternative version12:38
KleRoit0nedef:  btw, i can download it even if im with the live cd?12:38
LeoMenZa: can you help with wubi?12:38
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MenZasunnypies: No output... that sounds weird.12:38
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Nomad7ugh, why would my sound suddenly cease to function?12:38
t0nedefKleRoi: hmmm... ok, you can, but there may be some issues with burning it12:39
wellyhi all.. is it much of a task to set up DNS for a small home network?12:39
MenZasunnypies: The Listen setting in the Apache config files specifies who to allow to connect to. It could be a router problem.12:39
t0nedefKleRoi: cuz you won't be able to put a disk in the drive12:39
wellyam running ubuntu 7.0412:39
JunecyHello. I have Fiesty (7.0.4) and am using Gateway 7330GZ. My wireless network card seems to not load or isn't installed. I have a broadcom 4401 builtin wireless adapter...My question is this: How do I get it to work?12:39
MenZaLeo: Hmm, I don't recommend using Wubi.12:39
MenZa!broadcom | Junecy12:39
ubot3Junecy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:39
t0nedefKleRoi: so get a pen and paper, i'm gonna give you some instructions to write down12:39
KleRoit0nedef:  erm thats what i thought yes, well im trying to download it now12:39
sunnypiesMenZa: yea cus this network is at work so could it be a firewall?12:39
t0nedefKleRoi: cancel that12:39
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MenZaJunecy: Wireless can be a bit annoying sometimes, but read through the documents thoroughly, and it will most likely work.12:39
t0nedefKleRoi: it won't do you any good right now12:39
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Junecythanks12:40
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MenZasunnypies: It could be a router problem. You'd have to setup router forwarding for port 80 to your local machine.12:40
onur_how can i use proxy server for itself ?12:40
KleRoit0nedef:  ah ok, well i got the pen and the paper then12:40
MenZasunnypies: Port forwarding, even12:40
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sunnypiesMenZa: yea I bet its behind the firewall or the port isn't open, how would i open port 80?12:40
Azzkikrsunnypies: depends on your router12:41
t0nedefKleRoi: one moment, i'm getting the download address for you, i'm gonna give you a complete set of command-line instructions12:41
MenZasunnypies: You would have to configure your router, and with that, I'm afraid I can't help you. Find your user manual.12:41
KleRoit0nedef: ok i'll wait then12:41
MenZa(Or if it's a big company, have the techies do it)12:41
MenZa!fstab12:41
ubot3The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions12:41
lezardousually you just have to go on 127.0.0.112:41
t0nedefKleRoi: i'm in command-line myself, so i need to switch screens12:41
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sunnypiesMenZa: yea i wouldn't be able to change router at work lol12:41
KleRoit0nedef: okay12:42
MenZasunnypies: hehe :)12:42
fromotionI'm running xubuntu 7.04 and can't seem to get BitchX to display ANSI properly.  How do I fix this?12:42
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pheorehshello12:43
bjame1hello12:43
Azzkikrhello12:43
n30hi there :)12:43
karina_:)12:43
noiesmohey all. I was installing vmware server on ubuntu fiesty and encounter a couple of issues so I followed the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server and deleted /etc/vmware* as suggested for troubleshooting now when I try and reinstall I get errors related to missing files in /etc/vmware anyone know how to avoid this?12:43
t0nedefKleRoi: are you on a 32-bit processor or a 64bit one?12:43
KleRoit0nedef: i'm quite sure im on a 3212:44
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pheorehsanyone heard of the "CodeLite" editor ?  I'm trying to install it from svn. it is based on wxwidgets. but I'm getting compile errors, I installed wxWidgets from synaptic, but no go.  does a package exist ?12:44
bjame1I've just installed Ubuntu 7.04 and chose to install KDevelop, opened an example wxWidgets project and hit build12:44
Nomad7could adding piix to /etc/modules break my sound, somehow?12:44
bjame1it errors12:44
t0nedefKleRoi: k, almost got what you need12:44
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KleRoit0nedef:  allrighty12:44
onur_how can i use proxy server for itself ?12:44
bjame1I'm missing some tools:12:44
bjame1aclocal, libtoolize, automake, autoconf12:44
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bjame1what do I need to install to get these?12:45
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GrungebunnyHello has anyone been successful at getting the gdesklets weather app to work? I even put in the yahoo page for my town and it still says it cannot connect.12:45
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pheorehsbjame1: autoconf, libtool, aclocal from synaptic12:45
WX9Jckdirs -l returned my /dev/sda1 to have a file system HPFS/NTFS  any idea what the HPFS is  ???12:45
pheorehsbjame1: it's all there12:45
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bjame1pheorehs: yes I could do that12:45
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cabldevilanyone have a good probram to recover files on fat that have been formated over12:45
bjame1but is there not a simple package I'm missing12:46
bjame1I've run sudo apt-get install build-essential12:46
pheorehsbjame: dunno bout that,  I just installed those packages for my build needs, works fine12:46
bjame1never mind, I'll try synaptic12:46
CheeseGardenerdoes anyone know when Gutsy comes out????12:46
bjame1cheers12:46
Azzkikroctober12:46
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Azzkikriirc12:47
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bjame1aclocal does not exist12:47
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GrungebunnyDoes anyone have decent experience with gdesklets? I cannot get the weather app to connect even after putting in the Yahoo page for my town like it suggests.12:47
bjame1I'm not sure I have the right repositories12:47
CheeseGardenerdoes anyone know of a way to install rhythmbox 0.11.1 through synaptics or apt-get at least???12:47
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AzzkikrGrungebunny: weather desklet is buggy12:47
cafuegoCheeseGardener: 7.10 - ie: october12:48
Azzkikri've had the same experience, since edgy eft i believe12:48
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TyphoidHippoSo...apparently OSS has finally gone completely open source.  This is big news, right?  All their sound drivers are now available for free and the source is under GPL2.12:48
Grungebunnyazzkikr ahh.. are there any alternatives to gdesklets?12:48
pheorehsbjame: look under development section,  get autogen,autoconf,automake, bison, byacc, cmake, etc..12:48
t0nedefKleRoi: ok, got your pen ready?12:48
XorisTyphoidHippo: well who cares, i guess we're staying with ALSA...12:48
KleRoit0nedef:  yes im here12:48
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AzzkikrGrungebunny: hm, there is a small applet which you can add to your gnome panel, but thats about it12:48
Nomad7could adding piix to /etc/modules break my sound, somehow? it was working just hours ago and that's the only thing i can think of that i've changed since then :\12:48
ogreEh, got a noob question if anyone is bored12:49
AzzkikrGrungebunny: not much of an eye candy or such12:49
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cafuegoNomad7: Does sound start working if you remove it again?12:49
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pheorehsbjame: also, flex, bison, gcc (v 3 or 4), gettext12:49
t0nedefKleRoi: when you reboot into your main install type the following12:49
mr_wrongogre, just ask.12:49
pheorehsanyone with any info on my codelite problem ?12:49
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Nomad7cafuego: haha i suppose i should try that... but that's what got my cd drive working properly in the first place :\ i hope i don't have to choose between a working cdrom or sound12:50
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tagsoupI just installed ubuntu on my x86 mackbook pro, and after a restart (in escaped recovery mode through grub) my system is locking up at "Loading Hardware drivers...12:50
t0nedefKleRoi: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso12:50
TyphoidHippoXoris:  Yea, lol...  ALSA doesn't play well with neomagic cards at all.    I went to the site to just buy the drivers, being fed up with not getting ALSA to work, and I was just pleasantly surprised to find that out.  I installed their deb file, I'm not really sure what to do now...since everything is set up to work with alsa, I think.12:50
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t0nedeftell me when your ready for the next step12:50
tagsouphow can i tell what drivers are locking the system?12:50
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XorisTyphoidHippo: perhaps ALSA can use OSS as backend. never investigated that, but you should give google a chance i suppose12:51
CheeseGardenercafuego, will fiesty update itself to gusty automatically, or do I have to install all over again?????12:51
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Linhi there.. My ubuntu box (feisty) always returns a error while mounting local FS, as I could notice, it return exit code 32 (mount failure) while mounting PROC, probably because proc is already mounted. Returning FAIL, the main drawback for me is because it closes the USPLASH scrren to show the problem. I know that I can avoid it changing the code in initscript, but there is already an official solution?12:51
Xoris!upgrade12:51
ubot3For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:51
AzzkikrCheeseGardener: you can dist upgrade by using apt-get12:51
Azzkikrthere you go :)12:51
XorisAzzkikr: not recommended, better to use update-manager12:51
CheeseGardenerso I can upgrade through synpatics?12:51
CheeseGardenersynatpics??*12:51
AzzkikrXoris: reason?12:51
XorisSynaptic12:51
KleRoit0nedef:  ok im ready, btw i have to write that after the server X crashes and it brings me to the console?12:51
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ogreI'm running Ubuntu 4.10 that I finally installed on my pc (spent 2 months trying, long story) and I am trying to update. The command line update only goes so far, then it timeouts. I cant find a download manager to get the updates for me. What am I doing wrong?12:51
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Linogre: download 7.412:52
KleRoit0nedef:  well not the console, don't know how its called but when i only have the text linux12:52
t0nedefKleRoi: after you log in in the console mode,12:52
XorisAzzkikr: update-manager does a few vital check, such that you have ubuntu-desktop installed. other than that, i don't know the details, but it's been repeated over and over12:52
CheeseGardenerok12:52
KleRoit0nedef:  ok then im ready for the next step12:52
t0nedefKleRoi you'll need to log in first though12:52
CheeseGardenerdoes anyone use rhythmbox 0.11.1???12:52
KleRoit0nedef:  yes okay i got that12:52
Linogre: 4.10 (AFAIK was the first version), update-manager didn't exists in that version12:52
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TyphoidHippoXoris, yea, buddy.  I'm excited about this - This OSS should even work for my firewire audio interfaces, i think.  Off to google, I go.12:53
Trigger911sup everyone12:53
t0nedefKleRoi: ok, next type cdrecord12:53
ogreah, so I download 7.4 and burn it and restart?12:53
AzzkikrXoris: i find that odd to be honest. I can't upgrade my server box using apt-get then12:53
t0nedefKleRoi: if it says its not installed, type sudo apt-get install cdrecord12:53
AzzkikrXoris: i'll read the manual though12:53
Linogre: burn and reinstall.. use desktop version not alternate, should be easier to you..12:53
t0nedefKleRoi: tell me when your ready12:53
ogreBah, if i could do that, I wouldn't be in this mess....12:53
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KleRoit0nedef: ok im ready12:54
XorisAzzkikr: for server, i think in Feisty they've implemented a command-line update-manager12:54
Linogre: there is A LOT improvements since 4.1012:54
Trigger911i got a guestion im having problems getting kubuntu and xubuntu but it will start to copy the files then the caps lock and scroll lock will turn on/of in scync12:54
firebird619I have a set of BA digital speakers and a SB Live 5.1 (Dell) sound card. I can only get sound from the front speakers. I have tried different things in the .asoundrc file, however what I find by searching the Internet doesn't have to do with digital speakers. How can I get sound from the rear speakers?12:54
ogreYea, I've been reading it's much better.12:54
CheeseGardenerDoes anyone know if rhythmbox 0.11.1 works with fiesty?????12:54
orudiei am on this page following instructions to install VLC media player, those are a little confusing12:54
t0nedefKleRoi: now once we confirmed that we do have cdrecord, you want to do sudo cdrecord --scanbus12:54
orudiehttp://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html12:54
KleRoit0nedef:  okay12:54
orudiei typed in deb ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ubuntu dapper universe12:54
syuroffis there likely to be a 7.04 to 8.x LTS upgrade path?  My server seems to reject 6.06LTS12:55
AzzkikrXoris: you're correct, just read about it. Thanks for that note12:55
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orudieand nothing happens, then it said Add run and more commands12:55
orudiewhat exactly do they mean?12:55
ogreLin, is there a way on 4.10 to read an ISO file like it was on a cd from the hard drive. I know the one not for linux....12:55
t0nedefKleRoi: Ok its gonna print out a lot of info, but whats important is the dev info, you need to right down the three numbers with commas betwen them12:55
orudieanyone? please help me ... i am new to this12:55
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t0nedefKleRoi: if it lists two different ones, just write down the first one, they are the same device unless you have 2 burners12:56
Linogre: sure.. just double click on iso image12:56
Azzkikrorudie: it looks like a repository configuration12:56
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CheeseGardenerCould someone help me install rhythmbox 0.11.1 through synaptics or add/remove programs?12:56
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t0nedefKleRoi: plus the first one should be the simple version12:56
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orudieAzzkikr, what should i do there?12:56
KleRoit0nedef:  okay i got that, i only have 1 burner anyway12:56
ogreSo would it be possible to tell 4.10 to read the ISO on boot?12:57
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orudieAzzkikr, which configuration should i change?12:57
Trigger911i got a guestion im having problems getting kubuntu and xubuntu but it will start to copy the files then the caps lock and scroll lock will turn on/of in scync12:57
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Aye|Hey, anyone, i have a geforce 6200 pci card, but it doesnt boot into ubuntu with it as the first display device in my BIOS but if i enable my onboard and use my onboard one it boots, and then when X loads it will switch to my graphics card, does anyone have any idea about how to get ubuntu to boot with my card without changing the bios12:57
jdautzCheeseGardener, why 0.11 on feisty? 10 is not enough good?12:57
orudieAzzkikr, really, never installed any repositories yet12:57
Azzkikrorudie: if you look at this file: /etc/apt/sources.list, you'll see repository lines just like those12:57
t0nedefKleRoi: ok, at this point you need to put a blank cd in the drive12:57
ztomicCheeseGardener: Applications->Add/Remove12:57
Azzkikryou can also add them through gnome12:58
KleRoit0nedef: ok, is there a problem if i just put it right away when i start the pc?12:58
orudieAzzkikr, how can i look at this /etc/apt/sources.list ?12:58
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Azzkikrorudie: sec, im checking for information on this subject12:58
t0nedefKleRoi: then type 'sudo cdrecord dev=0,0,0 ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso' replace the 0,0,0 with whatever numbers the scanbus gave ya12:59
jdautzorudie, you can use synaptic12:59
t0nedefKleRoi nope12:59
t0nedefKleRoi: i gotta correction for that last command i gave you12:59
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t0nedefKleRoi: then type 'sudo cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso' replace the 0,0,0 with whatever numbers the scanbus gave ya12:59
CheeseGardenerjdautz, and ztomic, I'm trying to get currently I have a iriver clix 2gb U10.  It uses an odd library to upload songs.  libmtp5, which has problems.  Currently Gnomad2 and Amorak use this, but the libmtp5 has problems and crashes the applications often, making upload near impossible sometimes.  However, rhythmbox 0.11.1 has MTP file transfer support of it's own.12:59
Azzkikrorudie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu   It is a bit outdated (for Edgy Eft) but its still pretty accurate12:59
t0nedefKleRoi: the -v will make it give you some output so you know when its done01:00
KleRoit0nedef: okay i got that one with the /v01:00
KleRoit0nedef: -v *01:00
DaRkMeZhello! who are de chanel of ubuntu in spanish?01:00
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Xoris!es01:00
ubot3Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:00
Azzkikrorudie: its too bad im not behind my desktop computer :/01:00
t0nedefKleRoi: yah, this ain't no dos01:00
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ScoutWhere is the default folder located for localhost?01:00
KleRoit0nedef: mmm what do you mean by that? :p01:00
t0nedefKleRoi: finally leaving the disk in the drive, type sudo reboot01:01
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ScoutOn apache01:01
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t0nedefKleRoi mean by what?01:01
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t0nedefKleRoi: oh, nvm i gotcha now01:01
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mr_wrongAnyone else annoyed by having the packages database always be outdated?  Today I had to compile from source Kino because the repositories had a beta version and I needed 1.1.101:01
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hackle577hey all, does anyone know if i need to install cube first before installing assaultcube?01:01
TBotNik_1All: Hey working on my "lp" vs Cups prob.  Made sure I have .ppd file, but still getting error: "Error - no default destination available."  Any ideas on fixing this?01:01
KleRoit0nedef:  yeah well anyway ok, i reboot01:02
KleRoit0nedef:  and i try reinstalling?01:02
t0nedefKleRoi: at this point, just follow the on screen instructions, if you get stuck load up your live cd -- the one your on now, and i'm sure someone can help01:02
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t0nedefKle: yep, you gotta do it with the right cd that will install the proper drivers01:02
jdautzDaRkMeZ, try #ubuntu-es01:02
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KleRoit0nedef: okay, i don't have to uninstall the previous ubuntu or anything?01:02
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ScoutWhere is the default folder located for localhost using apache?01:02
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Azzkikrorudie: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories also has some information on repositories01:02
t0nedefKleRoi: just tell it to format the existing install, install right over the top of it as if it wasn't there01:03
ShaddoxHi everyone. How would I install MySQL 4.0 instead of the latest version?01:03
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KleRoit0nedef: okay i'll try doing that, hoping i don't mess up with the partitions :s01:03
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GrungebunnyWhen the new version of Ubuntu comes out will I have the option to upgrade to it? or will I have to install it from scratch?01:03
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t0nedefKleRoi: don't worry about it, you'll be fine, and at least you haven't had a chance to get anything important on it yet01:03
hackle577grungebunny: you will upgrade just fine :-)01:04
Grungebunnyyay01:04
t0nedefKleRoi: there are other ways, but this is the simplest method by far01:04
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KleRoit0nedef: yes i hope that... well thanks a billion for the help! i'll try what you told me right away01:04
ztomicCheeseGardener: sorry cant help.01:04
t0nedefKleRoi, if you had been using it for a while i would have done it the hard way with ya01:04
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t0nedefKle: good luck, if you get stuck or mess up, you know your way back here01:05
hackle577hey all, does anyone know if i need to install cube first before installing assaultcube?01:05
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Trigger911iim sorry i hate asking for help01:05
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KleRoit0nedef:  if this is the easy way i dont really want to know what the hard way is... it already is going to look like a miracle if it works without any graphic interface XD thanks again, i'll give you cookies if it works! bye bye01:05
t0nedefKleRoi: good luck, if you get stuck or mess up, you know your way back here01:05
Azzkikrorudie: you're still there?01:06
t0nedefKleRoi: if it goes really bad, you can always get a friend to help you, if you have one that knows linux01:06
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KleRoit0nedef: yeah i have a couple, i'll do that... or just go Mac :p01:06
Trigger911i just got a lappy for school i plan on running Kubuntu and im gonna put flushbox on to replace kde but im having trouble with the instller and I have been looking for an answer on the forums for days01:06
t0nedefKleRoi: lol01:06
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KleRoit0nedef:  well brb hopefully, see you!01:06
CheeseGardenerDoes anyone know if it's possible to have two versions of rhythmbox installed at the same time???01:07
tagsoupok, so based on the how to i just read, "networking should just work"01:07
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AzzkikrCheeseGardener: of course it is possible01:07
tagsoupbut i'm at a terminal and ifconfig -a only shows loopback01:07
tagsoupwhere do i start?01:07
AzzkikrCheeseGardener: err01:07
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hackle577hey all, does anyone know if i need to install cube first before installing assaultcube?01:07
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linux_how i can add another language that i will be able to write in ?01:07
AzzkikrCheeseGardener: disregard that, im not 100% sure01:07
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orudieAzzkikr, thanx man, i just discovered the synaptic package manager01:08
orudieAzzkikr, its awesome!01:08
orudieAzzkikr, lol01:08
ztomicCheeseGardener: http://pmplib.sourceforge.net/document_easypmp_manual.html01:08
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t0nedefMenZa i hope that works for him01:08
orudieAzzkikr, i would like to find out how to install my video driver too lol01:08
MenZat0nedef: Me too :)01:09
MenZaorudie: Which video card do you have?01:09
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Azzkikrorudie: yeah you could install vlc by running synaptic, or apt-get. But i thought you necessarily needed to add a repository :D01:09
t0nedefMenZa: good thing it was a fresh install01:09
MenZat0nedef: Yeah. :)01:09
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MenZaAzzkikr: Nope, vlc is right there in the main repositories.01:09
orudieMenZa, oops sorry, sound card01:09
hackle577hey all, does anyone know if i need to install cube first before installing assaultcube?01:09
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MenZaorudie: Ah; can't help there.. /01:10
orudieMenZa, i have already installed the video card, i downloaded some script that did everything for me01:10
MenZaorudie: Oh?01:10
AzzkikrMenZa: yeah i know, but since orudie was struggling with a VLC repository ...01:10
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Azzkikrslight misundersanding01:10
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orudieAzzkikr, can you help me install my sound card?01:10
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t0nedefnow if i can get the network to run on my Solaris box, all my stuff will be great! but i don't expect help with that here01:10
t0nedefi hate messed up hardware01:10
orudieAzzkikr, once i get my sound card installed, i would really love to try out compiz fusion01:10
Azzkikrorudie: erm. First of all, up everything in your sound config, and unmute everything01:11
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Azzkikrorudie: are you using gnome?01:11
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hackle577hey all, does anyone know if i need to install cube first before installing assaultcube?01:13
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iratikwow... this channel seems quiet for once01:14
Azzkikryah :D01:14
lostat_CI have a AMD Sempron 2600+ for a processor and want to recompile a kernel. What processor family should I pick since there is no sempron listed?01:14
ztomicthought I lost my connection01:14
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riaalHow do I make a privet chat in Irssi?01:14
hackle577my question is in the middle of all of that lol01:14
JunecyI jsut went through the ndiswrapper manual for installing a windows driver for my wireless card and I failed at every attemp to install the driver...can anyone give me more specific help?01:14
JunecyHello. I have Fiesty (7.0.4) and am using Gateway 7330GZ. My wireless network card seems to not load or isn't installed. I have a broadcom 4401 builtin wireless adapter...My question is this: How do I get it to work?01:15
iratikokay... spoke too soon01:15
iratiknevermind01:15
hackle577lawls01:15
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Azzkikr!wireless01:15
ubot3Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:15
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orudieAzzkikr, where can i see all of the hardware specs in ubuntu, just like device manager in windows?01:15
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MenZaAzzkikr: I believe Junecy has already looked there; I linked him/her earlier01:15
AzzkikrMenZa: Ah hm.01:15
MenZaJunecy: I'd love to help, but I was heading off, and besides, I'm not really that leet when it comes to wireless. Sorry. Good luck with it, though.01:16
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Junecythanks01:16
JunecyBut I'm having no success at all.01:16
Azzkikrorudie: System -> Preferences -> Hardware information01:16
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ztomiclostat_C: amd6401:16
Cypher21My windows XP crahsed after i installed ubuntu with dual boot01:16
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mattfletcherusing apt-get, how can i totally uninstall and reinstall a package (shorewall) to get the default config files back?01:17
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JamesinatorHow can I make a user that thinks their home directory is / and not be able to access anything above their home?01:17
JunecyIs the hal.dll file missing or currupt?01:17
ScoutWhere is the default folder located for localhost using apache?01:17
MenZaorudie: Or do sudo lshw > hardware.txt01:17
lostat_Cztomic is it really a 64 bit processor?01:17
Cypher21Using gnome pantion editor01:17
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JunecyCypher21: what's the issue?01:17
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ztomiclostat_C: yup01:17
Cooner750Hello.01:17
MenZaorudie: then open hardware.txt in your favourite text editor01:17
JamesinatorScout: /var/www01:17
MenZaCooner750: Hi :)01:17
AzzkikrHi Cooner75001:17
JunecyYou may have to reinstall your XP then redo the Grub loader.01:17
ztomichttp://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_11599_11603,00.html01:17
Cooner750I'm running on the LiveCD now and getting an error during install.01:17
MenZaOh? What error?01:17
JunecyWindows doesn't like to be resized after it's been installed.01:17
Cooner750That being01:17
Cooner750SYSTEM~1_RESTO~1RP460CHANGE~1.1 is 1k, but it has 4 clusters (16k).01:17
ksrinihi01:18
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MenZaHmm01:18
Scoutthanks, Jamesinator.01:18
lostat_Cif I compile it as a 64 bit processor wont I lose the ability to run some 2 bi apps01:18
lostat_Cbitbi01:18
lostat_Cbit01:18
Junecymy suggestion is to use ntsf3g and back up all your important windows files and reinstall it01:18
MenZaWhat are you installing this on?01:18
Cypher21Its good i backed up my games but it will takes hours to install it01:18
orudieMenZa, how can i access volume control?01:18
ksriniwhat is the mp3 player available for linux01:18
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JunecyThat's the crummy part I'm afraid01:18
Azzkikrksrini: there are lots01:18
MenZaorudie: By double clicking the volume control Gnome Applet if it's added, if not, right click your gnome panel, choose add to panel and add it.01:18
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Cypher21Is there a way to fix my windows xp without reinstall?01:18
ztomiclostat_C: I don't know. I'm too poor for such a cool processor.01:18
Cooner750MenZa: A drive with a NTFS Windows XP partition, a FAT32 partition for "HP Recovery", an ext3 partition that currently has Fedora on it (going to format and install Ubuntu there), and a 402MB swap partition.01:18
Azzkikrksrini: rhythmbox, mpg123 (terminal), vlc, amarok ...01:18
mattfletcherusing apt-get, how can i totally uninstall and reinstall a package (shorewall) to get the default config files back?01:19
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Cooner750MenZa: 2.2GHz AMD Athlon XP, 1GB RAM01:19
JunecyYou could try to manually replace the file that went currupt or missing but it'll be a pain01:19
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ksrinibut rhythmbox doesnot support mp301:19
ztomiclostat_C: google it.01:19
ScoutHow do I get DVDs to play on Ubuntu01:19
JamesinatorHow can I set up a user to start in a chrooted environment, such as thinking /home/someuser is really / when logged into someuser?01:19
Azzkikrorudie: you can also type in `alsamixer` in a terminal01:19
nickrudmattfletcher, sudo apt-get remove --purge , then reinstall01:19
Cypher21Does windows have a error log for blue screens?01:19
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ksriniamarok is hanging.01:19
Jamesinatorksrini: Yes, it does, but you have to install some proprietary codecs to use MP301:19
Cypher21so i can find out whats missing01:19
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JunecyWith sudo apt-get update the sudo apt-get upgrade01:19
cafuegoztomic: Heh, amd64's are the cheepest procs you can find ;-)01:19
MenZaCooner750: Hmm, I suggest you try opening the "Gnome Partition Editor" from the application menu01:19
Azzkikrksrini: rhythmbox does support mp3, you'll just have to install the codecs01:19
MenZaCooner750: then format the drive before attempting to install.01:19
orudieAzzkikr, it only detected my microphone01:19
nickrudmattfletcher, proper package names of course01:19
ztomiccafuego: I'm REALLY poor.01:20
Shadow_milI need help setting up my printer, all the images where black is supposed to be, its a bit green01:20
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Cooner750MenZa: When I go to Cancel the error, it says "The test of the file system with type fat32 in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) found uncorrected errors."01:20
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MenZaksrini: If you want to make sure you have all the necessary plugins for pretty much all media, do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-*01:20
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MenZaCooner750: Ah-hah.01:20
Shadow_milI have tried cleaned it and aligning the ink01:20
Shadow_milnether helped01:20
Junecythen sudo apt-get install ntfs-config01:20
Cooner750I'm not even going to be mounting that partition....01:20
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JaseEvening folks01:20
cafuegoztomic: Heh, amd64's are the cheepest procs you can shoplift!01:20
MenZaCooner750: Are you partitioning the disk manually?01:20
orudieAzzkikr, MenZa, brb thanx guys i think i have to enable my onboard sound01:20
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firebird619In the asound.conf file, can you have two numbers for device? For example, device 0,1 or is there another way to specify two devices.01:20
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Cooner750MenZa: Yes01:20
mattfletchernickrud: perfect, thanks01:20
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shaynewhich IRC channel for gutsy bugs?01:20
JunecyWindows will tell you what's missing when you try to boot into ti01:20
JamesinatorCooner750: Boot into Windows and run chkdsk or a similar app on the filesystem01:20
MenZaCooner750: And leaving it unchanged?01:20
nickrudshayne, ubuntu+101:21
ztomiccafuego: how you doin'? Didn't you used to hang out in #debian?01:21
Shadow_milshayne, #ubuntu+101:21
Azzkikrorudie: i'll be sleeping in the meantime :) good luck01:21
JaseAnyone here use Ubuntu Server?01:21
Cooner750MenZa: I'm only formatting the ext3 partition01:21
orudieAzzkikr, MenZa, or wait, is there a way to find out if my soundcard is functioning?01:21
JamesinatorJase: Yes01:21
Azzkikrorudie: erm...01:21
shaynenickrud: Shadow_mil; thanks guys01:21
JunecyThe program I jsut had you install will allow you read/write access to the ntfs partition which will hopefully be able to help you to replace the missing/corrupted file(s)01:21
MenZashayne: Gutsy bugs should be submitted to Launchpad01:21
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JamesinatorHow can I set up a user to start in a chrooted environment, such as thinking /home/someuser is really / when logged into someuser?01:21
MenZa!launchpad | shayne01:21
ubot3shayne: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/01:21
Cooner750I'll reboot into Windows and run chkdsk, there was a power outage last time Windows was running and I have not turned it back on since01:21
JaseWould you mind telling me how good it is with serving web pages?01:21
cafuegoztomic: Still do :-)01:21
Cooner750brb01:21
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JunecyBut it doesn't always work like that.01:21
Jasewith apache01:21
MenZaCooner750: Ah, that could be it.01:21
Cypher21I start my windows XP and then it shows the loading screen then i get the blue screen of death after i installed ubuntu, is tgere a better way to fix it without reinstall windows?01:21
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harshilsound doesntwork in my laptop01:22
JunecyWhat's the bluescreen message?01:22
harshilcan someone help me???01:22
JamesinatorJase: It's just fine. I don't see a whole lot of difference between it and Debian, which I previously used for server, but it's stable and just... works. :P01:22
ztomiccafuego: I don't know if I'm on my same nick but I spoke to you there many times. good to see you!01:22
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Cypher21Let me restart my pc01:22
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Azzkikrorudie: if you open up the gnome volume control right, and go to menu File -> Devices01:22
Junecyok01:22
Azzkikrorudie: which devices do you see listed?01:22
Cypher21it only shows the bcod less then a sec :(01:22
cafuegoztomic: I yet live. muaha :-)01:22
Cypher21bsod*01:22
JaseJamesinator: IT has to be better then what im using now, xp home :-D01:22
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harshilHDA Intel01:22
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ztomichehe!01:23
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JamesinatorJase: Ahaha! Running a server on a Windows system is a deathwish.01:23
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harshilRealtel ALc26201:23
SitheDoes anyone have Nessus working?01:23
orudieAzzkikr, i only see the microphone there01:23
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JaseJamesinator: well i do IT work and im familiar with windows, but i finnaly decided to suck it up and move to ubuntu01:23
orudieAzzkikr, its the usb microphone01:23
Azzkikrorudie: yes, but there is a menu File, no?01:24
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JamesinatorJase: Are you planning to install Ubuntu for desktop or server use? Or both?01:24
Cypher21The bsod does not give me any info >.<01:24
Azzkikrorudie: File | Edit | Help01:24
orudieAzzkikr, i'm clicking on the little speaker icon01:24
JaseJamesinator: Server01:24
JaseWeb server really01:24
JamesinatorJase: What did you previously use for server use?01:24
JaseXp home :-D01:24
SitheCan someone help me set up the Nessus server?01:24
JunecyThen I would say you would need to reinstall windows.01:24
orudieAzzkikr, and it only gives the microphone01:24
Junecy:-(01:24
Cypher21Where does windows xp store the error logs >.>01:25
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Cypher21<.<01:25
orudieAzzkikr, there i see File, Edit, Help01:25
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MenZaI don't think it stores error logs. :D01:25
JamesinatorJase: Ah, ok. Just for future reference, any non-Linux server is trash, IMHO. Ubuntu Server will more than fulfill. :P01:25
ksrinithanks i installed mp3 codecs and now i am able to play mp3 songs01:25
Azzkikrorudie: Ok if you now click on File, then Devices01:25
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MenZaksrini: np :)01:25
Grungebunnywoot01:25
harshilok01:25
Azzkikrksrini: good joh01:25
Cypher21windows xp keeps logs of bsod but does not say where :'(01:25
JunecyIn the administration panel there is an option to view those logs I believe01:25
Azzkikrjob*01:25
orudieAzzkikr, when i click on FIle, i see Change device and Quit01:25
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JaseJamesinator: Well, I did look at solaris 10 before deciding on ubuntu01:25
JimboDeLimbohaving some trouble with zsnes01:25
Azzkikrorudie: click on Change Device. How many and which ones are listed?01:25
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JunecyTo my knowledge you have to be logged into that partition...01:25
orudieAzzkikr, when i choose change device - the only item i can choose there is the microphone, no other sound card is listed01:26
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Azzkikrorudie: oh right. Weird.01:26
ztomicCypher21: let's see... Click on Start, then click on control panel. Click administrative "somethin.. somethin" then click ...01:26
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JimboDeLimboI'll be playing for a while and then it just freezes up01:26
ksrinican anyone tell what chat software should i have to install for configuring gtalk?01:26
JamesinatorJase: I haven't used Solaris, but it's your decision. I have a dedicated Ubuntu Server running a few rooms away from me and I've yet to have any problems with it, so that's all I can comment on. :P01:26
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Cypher21SAFE MODE then do a restore point?01:26
orudieAzzkikr, is there a way to find out if my sound card is supported, i have Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi01:27
Cypher21it may work01:27
Azzkikrorudie: I have two listed: 0 nVidia CK804 (alsa mixer) - which is my onboard functioning soundcard, and REaltek ALC85001:27
SitheCan someone help me set up a Nessus server?01:27
JunecyCan you enter windows in safemode?01:27
JaseJamesinator: Are you running it from home?01:27
Azzkikrorudie: erm...01:27
JamesinatorJase: Yes, it's not a production server.01:27
student_modnarHey, has anyone had a problem with ubuntu to where you have to hold down a key (any key) to get it to boot?  If I let go, it stops using the LiveCD and I hear the cdrom drive spin down01:27
JaseAH01:27
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JunecyBoot into safemode with networking support so if you need to install or download something to fix yourself you're able01:27
orudieAzzkikr, right i think i have to enable my onboard sound, i think that one is supported01:28
Sithestudent_modnar: no I have not have that problem01:28
Cypher21OMG safe mode is broken!!!01:28
kitcheSithe: what do you need help with on setting it up?01:28
orudieAzzkikr, i have to enable my onboard sound in bios01:28
Cypher21O_O01:28
Cypher21>.>01:28
JaseJamesinator: So your serving off a cable modem I presume?01:28
JunecyI would just reinstall windows01:28
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Cypher21I hate reinstalling it :P01:28
JunecyDon't I know it01:28
Linhi there.. My ubuntu box (feisty) always returns a error while mounting local FS, as I could notice, it return exit code 32 (mount failure) while mounting PROC, probably because proc is already mounted. Returning FAIL, the main drawback for me is because it closes the USPLASH scrren to show the problem. I know that I can avoid it changing the code in initscript, but there is already an official solution?01:28
ScoutHow do I change file permissions in Terminal?01:28
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Cypher21i did it so many times01:28
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JunecyI had to do it yesterday with my pc01:28
Sithekitche: I am trying to set it up to scan my friends site.. and I dont know how to configure the Nessus server.01:28
JamesinatorJase: Yes01:28
Drk_GuyHi guys01:28
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JunecyGood luck though01:28
JunecyBTW01:28
Drk_GuyI got back yo Ubuntu!!!01:28
Azzkikrorudie: I am looking at ubuntu forums, and i see people with trouble with the X-fi01:29
Drk_GuyPuppy didn't fit my needs01:29
JaseJamesinator: How much uptime do you usally get before a restart?01:29
Drk_Guyso i just wiped it off my pc01:29
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JunecyGet grub or lilo which ever you prefer on cd or something so that you can reinstall it after your XP instalation is complete.01:29
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JamesinatorJase: I've never restarted it since I installed Ubuntu Server01:29
orudieAzzkikr, hey, let me restart i'm going to enable my onboard in bios brb 1 min01:29
orudieAzzkikr, 30 sec01:29
JunecyXP will write over the bootloader and wont let you into linux01:29
JaseJamesinator, and that was when?01:29
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JamesinatorJase: A little over four months ago01:29
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Junecyso you'll need to replace it again01:29
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JaseJamesinator: Ok, im won over :-D01:30
Drk_GuyJunecy, this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:30
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JamesinatorJase: Good luck, then. :P01:30
kitcheSitheL use nessus it's just a gui for the server01:30
Junecythat'll work too01:30
Sithekitche oh I thought it was vulnerability scanner01:30
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JaseJamesinator: Thanks, im going to givethe live cde a go, and then im off to install the real deal01:30
Junecywish I had that link yesterday01:31
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Junecytook me forever to laod grub back01:31
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JunecyI'm not as smart as my mbr01:31
JamesinatorJase: Ok then, I'll message you my email, send me a note if you need any more help01:31
Drk_Guy!grub01:31
ubot3grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:31
Drk_GuyHahaha Junecy01:31
Drk_GuyLol01:31
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kitcheSithe: tis is but the server for nessus handles the attacks and the cline package gives the user a nice gui to use01:31
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Drk_GuyHey!01:31
lhothello everyone!01:31
Drk_GuyWhat happenned to Ubotu?01:31
JunecyOKay I need to get my network card working again01:31
t0nedef!botsnack01:31
ubot3Yum!01:31
Jamesinator!ubot3 | Drk_Guy01:31
ubot3Factoid ubot3 not found01:31
JamesinatorDunno then01:32
Azzkikr!fart01:32
ubot3Factoid fart not found01:32
t0nedefhe got updated it seems01:32
JamesinatorApparently01:32
Drk_Guy!ubotu | Drk_Guy01:32
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Drk_GuyI think it was only a nick change01:32
JaseJamesinator: Thanks for the help, cheers!01:32
kitcheDrk_Guy: ubotu died :)01:32
Drk_Guy!botsnack01:32
ubot3Yum!01:32
JamesinatorJase: No problem, good luck! :)01:32
t0nedefubot3 ate him01:32
ubot3Factoid ate him not found01:32
Drk_Guy!ubotu | kitche01:32
ubot3kitche: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:32
lhotso, im running ubuntu fiesty, and my sound card has stopped working01:32
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kitcheDrk_Guy: umm ok don't know why you did that switch on me01:33
Drk_GuyIt said "I am Ubotu"01:33
lhotit worked under 6.06 and 6.10, now it doesnt01:33
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Jamesinatortell Jamesinator about ubotu01:33
Jamesinatorubot3, tell Jamesinator about ubotu01:33
t0nedefubot3 who are you01:33
RagzoukenAre there still problems with rt61 wireless in the latest ubuntu?01:33
ubot3Factoid who are you not found01:33
t0nedefubot3 who is ubotu01:33
Drk_GuyFTW?01:33
kitcheDrk_Guy: and your point being since most of the bots that all the ops have in here say that when ubotu goes down01:34
Cypher21Updating windows takes 13 hours after ubuntu installer CRASHED it :'(01:34
Drk_GuyWhy are we...01:34
JamesinatorRagzouken: Yes, especially with WPA encryption. I might be able to help if you need it.01:34
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Drk_GuyCypher21: Stop updating it01:34
Azzkikrorudie: bring some good news so i can go to sleep :P01:34
lhotso....01:34
Drk_GuyIt only brings more trash on it01:34
Cypher21updating windows?01:34
RagzoukenShared key is different to WPA?01:34
Drk_GuyI'm on an intact Sp101:34
t0nedefi don't understand why you would update something thats broken with stuff that just breaks it more01:34
ScoutWhen I try to login as root it say "Administrator cannot login from this screen" or something similar. Any ideas?01:34
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JamesinatorRagzouken: I wouldn't know, I've only used WEP, WPA, and unencrypted setups.01:35
t0nedefScout: you can't log in as root01:35
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kitcheScout: becuase root can't login at all not even though gdm01:35
Azzkikrand you shouldn't login as root, Scout.01:35
t0nedefScout: log in as a normal user and use sudo to get root access01:35
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LordOfTheGiraffelol01:35
ScoutOh, I was always able to login as root with Fedora.01:35
orudieAzzkikr, the onboard sound is liste01:35
ScoutMy bad.01:35
Cypher21I am updating it so i can play my games without errors01:35
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JamesinatorScout: You have to use sudo su to access root, afterwards you can use "passwd" while logged into root to change the password and use root normally01:35
t0nedefScout: ubuntu is set up a bit more secure in that aspect01:35
Drk_GuyCypher21: No game asks for Sp201:35
ScoutMhm01:35
orudieAzzkikr, Nvidia CK Alpha Mixer, but still no sound01:36
Azzkikrorudie: ok, gnome volume panel again then, select the device from File -> Device -> [watever] 01:36
Drk_GuyThey Only ask for the latest DX01:36
t0nedefScout: its ok, i had the same problem when i decide gentoo was too much work to maintain01:36
Ragzoukenah01:36
RagzoukenI'm using WEP01:36
kitche!noroot01:36
ubot3Factoid noroot not found01:36
Cypher21My PC runs slow with SP201:36
Azzkikrhave you upped every volume, orudie ? And unmuted everything?01:36
Cypher21i don't know y01:36
Drk_GuyMine did it too+01:36
nickrudScottLij, think of it as a four letter word between you and a mistake01:36
t0nedefubot3 toor01:36
ubot3Factoid toor not found01:36
Drk_GuyGo back to Sp101:36
kitcheDrk_Guy: see that's not ubotu :) since it has noroot factiod01:36
Ragzoukenwhat problems exist with rt61 for anyone, and for peolpe using WEP, Jamesinator01:36
alterooJamesinator, sudo su-ing is not wise..01:36
orudieAzzkikr, yeah01:36
Drk_GuyWoW01:36
orudieAzzkikr, i'm trying all the jacks in the sound card01:36
Azzkikrorudie: also, go to menu Edit -> Preferences01:36
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Drk_GuyThen we got our reliable bot replaced01:36
alterooJamesinator, sudo -i is the recommended way01:37
Azzkikrorudie: then check everything listed there01:37
Jamesinatoralteroo: And why's that?01:37
ScoutHow would I change the permissions of files owned by root then?01:37
ScoutSpecifically /var/www/01:37
keenanyone here have any experience with xgl and direct rendering?01:37
AzzkikrScout: with sudo01:37
ScoutI don01:37
Drk_GuyScout: chown01:37
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Scoutt understand.01:37
kitcheScout: add your user to www-data and you'll be bale to write to /var/www01:37
Drk_Guy!chown01:37
ubot3The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:37
Cypher21I got the bsod 10 times during the installer with vista and 15 times while using it which was a ngihtmare so i installed windows xp and ubuntu dual boot but ubuntu had to brake my windows xp :(01:37
nickrudScout, sudo <root command you want>01:37
AzzkikrScout: sudo chown +x file  - for instance01:37
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lhotso, my sound card a SigmaTel STA9250 worked in ubuntu 6.06, 6.10, and now it doesn't in 7.0401:37
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lhotwtf01:38
JamesinatorRagzouken: I don't know about all the problems, but I had to go through the Weekend of Hell to set up rt61 with WPA. Network Manager doesn't set up WPA+rt61 automagically so you have to do some nasty /etc/network/interfaces hacks to get it working01:38
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Drk_Guy!grub > Cypher2101:38
kitcheyou should not chown anything in /usr/ /var /etc/ /bin /sbin except for /usr/local/01:38
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JamesinatorRagzouken: There are some overall problems with usability for the rt61, but I think Network Manager has it down for unencrypted and WEP setups.01:38
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linux_how i can write in other language in ubuntu ? [] 01:38
Akifemrehi guys, i got an idea. i think "ubuntu" is so rude name, let's change that name, ha?01:38
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nemikhello. is anyone using tribe 4? esp on a thinkpad t61?01:39
Catsceohow is it rude?01:39
Drk_GuyAkifemre: Talk with Canonical for that01:39
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JamesinatorScout: Under your normal user, type: "sudo chown -Rc ${USER}:${USER} /var/www" without the quotes01:39
Catsceonemik: #ubuntu+101:39
orudieAzzkikr, the green jack is the speakers right?01:39
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t0nedeflinux_: what desktop you using?01:39
kitchenemik: well #ubuntu+1 people might01:39
orudieAzzkikr, nothing works, wtf01:39
nemikCatsceo: thanks01:39
orudieAzzkikr, enabled all those, turned them on to max volume, tried all the jacks in the back01:39
t0nedeflinux_: you'll need to install language support01:40
orudieAzzkikr, quite as a grabe01:40
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ScoutWhen I try to copy something I get this "cp: omitting directory `/home/jeff/Desktop/kurbong.net/'"01:40
JamesinatorAkifemre: Ubuntu is the name of an African belief system, I believe. If you consider it offensive, you'll have to cope.01:40
orudieAzzkikr, grave*01:40
kitcheJamesinator: you shouldn't tell people to chown that directory sicne apache will not see it correctly then01:40
ScoutAnyone know what I am doing wrong?01:40
LordOfTheGiraffeit should be called ubanto01:40
Azzkikrorudie: check the ubuntuforums for support then, my knowledge stops here. www.ubuntuforums.org.01:40
RagzoukenJamesinator, are you saying that I should be able to set it up easily for WEP?01:40
lhotso my sound card, a sigmatel stac9250 worked in 6.06, 6.10, and its not working now01:40
linux_t0nedef . gnome , and i have installed this lang support01:40
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orudieAzzkikr, ok thanx01:40
Azzkikrorudie: most users forget to max out their volume stuff01:40
lhotcan anyone help?01:40
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Drk_GuyI want to install Fluxbox on Ubuntu, is that possible?01:40
Jamesinatorkitche: I think you're mistaken, I have /var/www chown'ed to my normal user on this system and it works perfectly01:40
Azzkikrorudie: so thats why i told you to do that stuff. Anyways, too bad tha wasn't the case :/01:40
MenZaDrk_Guy: Sure. sudo apt-get install fluxbox.01:40
AkifemreJamesinator, i think, it must be such a modern word.01:40
Azzkikrorudie: im getting a good night sleep now :P01:40
JamesinatorRagzouken: As far as I know01:40
Drk_GuyCool01:40
Drk_GuyThx01:41
Azzkikrgluck01:41
Ragzoukenok thanks01:41
Azzkikrg'luck01:41
orudieAzzkikr, thanx for you help gnight01:41
MenZaDrk_Guy: np. To enable it, logout and in gdm change your session to Fluxbox.01:41
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Drk_GuyThx01:41
MenZa:)01:41
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JamesinatorAkifemre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28ideology%2901:41
linux_someone know what todo ?01:41
Drk_GuyBut Flux doesn't have a DM, so i'm sc.....01:41
ScoutJamesinator: I did what you suggested and nothing is returned.01:42
Akifemrei don't care ideology01:42
MenZaDrk_Guy: Not at all.01:42
kitcheJamesinator: ok if you want to break security go right ahead but please do not tell people to chown that directory instead have them add themselves to www-data so they can write to the directory01:42
MenZaDrk_Guy: Just do as I told you, it will work.01:42
ScoutAnd the folder's permissions haven't changed.01:42
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Drk_GuyGDM can load Flux?01:42
Drk_GuyWoW01:42
Cypher21hmm01:42
MenZaDrk_Guy: Should be able to.01:42
Drk_GuyThx anyways01:42
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Jamesinatorkitche: I'm not a security adviser, I'm only answering Scout's questions.01:42
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Drk_GuyI'll try it someday01:42
firebird619Could someone help me? I am trying to get my digital speakers to work from both front and rear speakers. I know that front is hw:0,0 and rear is hw:0,1 however, I don't know what I have to put in the .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf to get sound from both at the same time.01:42
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keenDoes anyone know if i can use xgl and direct rendering at the same time?01:43
Drk_Guy:-D01:43
MenZaAkifemre: If you have any further issues with the name, I suggest you post on the forum stating exactly what you think is wrong with the name. I'd be interested in hearing your point of view.01:43
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JamesinatorScout: What's returned when you type: stat -c %a "/var/www"01:43
Drk_GuyI just love Ubuntu01:43
Drk_GuyUbuntu is so cool01:43
MenZaDrk_Guy: We all do. :)01:43
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Scout75501:43
Drk_Guy:)01:43
AkifemreMenZa, ok, i try :/01:43
JamesinatorScout: Whoops, wrong command, sorry01:43
Cypher21Drk_guy: i am using it on my laptop :)01:44
SineFatolaptops are cool01:44
JamesinatorScout: ls -la /var/www/01:44
smultronhow come my ubuntu box can't recognize my mac?01:44
smultron$ ping -c 5 macbookpro.local01:44
smultronping: unknown host macbookpro.local01:44
Grungebunnyyeah years of trying to wrestle with red hat always sent me back to windows.. till ubuntu.01:44
kitchesmultron: because it doesn't know the mac's hostname01:44
MenZasmultron: Try pinging its IP rather than its hostname01:44
SineFatowhat does $ mean in the command line01:44
smultronwhy wouldn't it know it's hostname?01:44
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Jamesinatorsmultron: Ubuntu is not magic.01:45
kitcheSineFato: user shell01:45
Jamesinatorsmultron: As much as it seems that way01:45
kitchesmultron: becuase you didn't add it in /etc/hosts01:45
SineFatoKitche: ahem... and what does that mean01:45
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gmachine_24i have numerous terminal windows opening automatically when i log in - other windows also open (such as alacarte menu editor) with no input from me. I need to find where these commands are coming from - a cron? file any ideas?01:45
smultronmac os x recognizes the ubuntu host name. is OS X magic, then? :P01:45
nickrudSineFato, it's just a marker, it means user shell: if you were logged in as root, it would be #01:45
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Trigger911if some one has time i got a few questions i hoping some one can answer01:45
MenZagmachine_24: Xfce? Gnome?01:45
gmachine_24i am running ubuntu LTS gnome01:45
kitcheSineFato: that your using a user shell01:45
gmachine_24Menza: ty01:45
MenZagmachine_24: It sounds like you're saving your session.01:46
kitcheSineFato: root shell looks like # instead of $01:46
smultronkitche: i'll try that01:46
SineFatoSo it is like sudo but more like, normal user do01:46
MenZagmachine_24: I'm not entirely sure how you'd change that; maybe in System -> Preferences -> Session.01:46
nickrudlol01:46
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gmachine_24MenZa: I tried Session. Nada.01:46
kitchesmultron: OSX has a service discovery tool Linux has one also but needs some configuring to work right01:46
ScoutCan anyone tell me how to change the file permissions of a file owned by root?01:46
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MenZagmachine_24: Weird. :/01:46
JunecyOkay does anyone have any idea on how to actually set up my broadcom 4318 pci network card?01:46
MenZaScout: Use sudo.01:46
gmachine_24Scout: sudo chmod01:46
smultronkitche: is there anything like that for linux?01:46
MenZaScout: If I've been watching correctly, it's /var/www, right?01:47
SineFatosudo get me a sandwich01:47
smultronkitche: or is it all manual?01:47
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orudiei have the Nforce 4 Nvidia chipset, and my sound is not working AC7 does anyone have any suggestions?01:47
JamesinatorSineFato: XKCD FTW.01:47
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gmachine_24MenZa: I know. But... the commands must be somewhere bc they run every time I log in.01:47
nickrudgmachine_24, did you save a session? (you can look at ~/.gnome2/session so see what's started)01:47
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MenZaScout: Is it /var/www?01:47
gmachine_24nickrud: i'll check.01:47
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ScoutMenZa: Yes.01:47
MenZaScout: And you want to change ownership to your own user?01:48
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SineFatojamesinator: xkcd is a sweet ass-comic01:48
ScoutYes.01:48
JamesinatorSineFato: Mmhmm.01:48
MenZaScout: sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /var/www01:48
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MenZaI believe01:48
MenZaYou might not need the -R01:48
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kitchesmultron: avahi is what linux has if its installed01:48
ScoutAlright lemme try that.01:48
JamesinatorScout: The -R option is for Recursive. It changes the owner of the subdirectory's contents, too01:48
smultronkitche: avahi = bonjour?01:49
MenZasmultron: Basically, yes.01:49
JamesinatorScout: If you plan to edit anything already inside of /var/www you should use -R01:49
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MenZasmultron: But avahi has a reputation for being dodgy.01:49
gmachine_24MenZa, nikrud: ok, session looks like it is the problem. what do i do? delte it?01:49
marshalldoes anybody here have WoW running in wine?01:49
MenZasmultron: It should be running by default on your system.01:49
MenZagmachine_24: I'd assume so.01:49
kitchesmultron: it's like bonjour but it is not bonjour01:49
ScoutMenZa: Nothing is returned and nothing has been changed.01:49
MenZa!wow | marshall01:49
ubot3marshall: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org01:49
gmachine_24I don't use Wine. But I do whine.01:49
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MenZaScout: cd /var/www && touch test01:49
gmachine_24Ok. I'll give it a shot and let you know what happens.01:50
marshallgmachine_24: HAHAHA01:50
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MenZaScout: any issues with that command?01:50
meezyfuhhi, how can i d/l all files from an http directory?01:50
ScoutNothing is returned.01:50
nickrudgmachine_24, you can just close everything, and save the session01:50
smultronMenZa: if it's running by default, how come ubuntu can't recognize my mac's hostname?01:50
ScoutDirectory changes of course.01:50
MenZasmultron: Pass01:50
smultronMenZa: :P01:50
MenZaScout: try ls. Is the file test there?01:50
orudiei have the Nforce 4 Nvidia chipset, and my sound is not working AC7 does anyone have any suggestions?01:50
ScoutMenZa: It worked.01:51
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MenZaScout: Hooray.01:51
ScoutThanks a lot.01:51
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MenZaScout: No problems. :)01:51
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Drk_Guy/back01:51
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SineFatoubuntu free, OSX $99 per update..... ubutnu ftw01:51
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meezyfuhcan anyone help me with wget?01:51
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MenZaSineFato: $130*, but yes.01:51
MenZameezyfuh: What's the problem.01:51
MenZa?*01:51
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t0nedefwow01:51
t0nedefmy network just dropped outta nowhere...01:52
meezyfuhMenZa: i don't know how to use it. i'm trying to d/l all files in an http directory but i don't know what parameters to use. as usual the help file is not as helpful as its name would lead me to believe01:52
kitcheOrfeous: well nforce sound uses the ac7 module in linux01:52
meherent0nedef, you must be running a common network...01:52
SineFatomenza: plus 3000 for the comp01:52
MenZameezyfuh: If you just want to download the file, do wget <target<01:52
MenZaerr01:52
MenZameezyfuh: wget <target>*01:52
Junecytesting01:52
MenZafor instance, wget http://foo.bar/file.ext01:52
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MenZameezyfuh: alternately, read man wget01:53
meherenMenZa, meezyfuh, yeah i LOVE that command...01:53
orudiei have the Nforce 4 Nvidia chipset, and my sound is not working AC7 does anyone have any suggestions?01:53
MenZameezyfuh: It's well-documented01:53
t0nedefmeheren: nah, i only have this problem when i connect to networks using WPA security01:53
meezyfuhMenZa: k, and how about every file in a directory listing? say, all jpg files01:53
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lhotso, my soundcard, a sigmatel stac#### was working in previous ubuntu installs, it does not work now in ubuntu 7.04 fiesty fawn01:53
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MenZameezyfuh: Well, that would require you to be able to view e.g. an Apache directory listing01:53
t0nedefmeheren: only happens once in a while01:53
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Jamesinatormeezyfuh: wget -r http://www.yoursite.com/01:53
cafuegomeezyfuh: wget -m http://host/some/dir01:53
Junecyno networking guys here tonight?01:53
MenZacafuego: incorrect01:53
meherent0nedef, interisting i have yet to see a stable home network.01:53
SineFatomezzyfuh: wildcard *01:53
meezyfuhso is it -r or -m? :P01:53
cafuegomeezyfuh: ... you can probably specify filename filters01:53
Jamesinatormeezyfuh: -r is Recursive, -m is Mirror01:53
MenZameezyfuh: wget -R -np --accept=jpg,html <target>01:54
t0nedefmeheren: thats because most people use cheap equipment, and then when they set it up, they don't know what they are doing01:54
MenZarecursive, no-parent, accept only jpegs and html files. (html is required to download an index)01:54
Junecymy wired connection works perfectly but I can't get anything going with the wireless.01:54
meezyfuhthank you everyone. seems to be working fine01:54
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SineFatook they win01:54
meezyfuhbtw is nnh-bot supposed to be soliciting help with installation? or is he phishing01:54
MenZanp01:54
Junecy'ndiswrapper isn't working and I can't seem to figure out anythig else01:54
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JunecyI had fiesty a few weeks ago running perfectly but now it's being a cuntslop01:55
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Jamesinator!language | Junecy01:55
ubot3Junecy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:55
MenZameezyfuh: nnh-bot is /not/ an official bot01:55
MenZa!ops01:55
ubot3Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso01:55
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JunecySorry I'm jsut a bit ticked off01:55
meezyfuhi think it's phishing then.01:55
Drk_GuyWoW01:55
gmachine_24Back. Ok, you guys ROCK. It's fixed. At least that part.01:55
SineFatojamesinator: im stil not over my wondows habits01:55
JunecyI need this all worked out by monday01:55
MenZaOps: [2007-10-08 01:52:56 CEST]  < meezyfuh> btw is nnh-bot supposed to be soliciting help with installation? or is he phishing01:55
Drk_GuyI'm surprised of the tons of games Ubuntu can run01:55
gmachine_24Menza, nik thank you.01:56
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pulgaany idea about ubuntu doesnt poweroff the hardware when I 'shutdown -h now'?01:56
Drk_GuyI didn't even now Quak4 ran in Ubuntu01:56
yurimxpxmando any of you know what this fetchmail error means? Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table01:56
MenZaDrk_Guy: Natively. :)01:56
JamesinatorSineFato: We all get over it eventually. I loved Ubuntu after switching.01:56
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meezyfuhok guys thank you so much for your help, i'm outta here. peace01:56
kitchemeezyfuh: well what do mean sicne I see nothing from nnh-bot that I can see01:56
Drk_GuyI'm d/l Wormux now01:56
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meherenDrk_guy, linux runs ALOT more games then most people give it credit for.01:56
Drk_GuyMy fave game for PSP..01:56
meezyfuhkitche: i got a private message from it, saying 'im a bot, if you need help installing i can help you' or something.01:56
Drk_GuyIN UBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:56
kitche@help01:56
gmachine_24I have one other problem: Sometimes after logging in the computer hangs for 3 minutes or so with just the small arrow in the middle of the screen. Then it continues on to boot normally.01:57
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Drk_GuyF*** this s***, this is so incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:57
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meherenyep...01:57
JamesinatorDrk_Guy: Ubuntu is amazing. It's the truth. :)01:57
MenZaJamesinator: Indeed it is.01:57
linux_what in ubuntu is like deamond tools ?01:57
galpa#ubuntu-es01:57
gmachine_24What's really amazing is that you can use Ubuntu to pick up chicks.01:57
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w30!reboot hangs01:58
ubot3Factoid reboot hangs not found01:58
Drk_GuyUbuntu is the freakin mother of all other Distros (Not counting Debian off-course)01:58
Xoris!mountiso > linux_01:58
MenZagalpa: /j #ubuntu-es01:58
w30!reboot01:58
ubot3Factoid reboot not found01:58
meherendang... apples's got it down01:58
Drk_Guy!Iso > linux_01:58
JamesinatorDrk_Guy: Err, it's actually not... But in functionality, fo' sho'! :)01:58
meherentarballing a dmg removes 10megs...01:58
gmachine_24Ok so ... no help on the hanging after log in???01:58
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kitcheDrk_Guy: not really SLS is then Slackware :)01:58
Drk_GuyHaha!01:58
t0nedefMenZa: quake 4 is native now? *smells the sulpher from some good ol' phragging now*01:58
Drk_GuySlack?01:58
MenZat0nedef: I'm pretty sure it is.01:58
orudiehow can i access alsamixer?01:58
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Drk_GuyTux frags Windows01:58
gmachine_24Slack is a soon to be former linux.01:58
Drk_GuyHahahahaha01:58
MenZahttp://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ <- t0nedef01:58
t0nedefMenZa: I'm so gonna buy that01:59
gmachine_24I want to learn BSD.01:59
JunecyDoes anyone know the command line for checking to see if my network card is running?01:59
meherenJunecy, lspci01:59
gmachine_24sudo lcws or something01:59
kitchegmachine_24: umm slackware will be linux for a while until Pat gets sick but the community around it is big01:59
Junecythat jsut tells me there is a network card there.01:59
meherenah, true01:59
Junecyit doesn't tell me if it's active or not.01:59
nikrudgmachine_24, you could open a virtual terminal and tail -f /var/log/messages , you might see something01:59
gmachine_24kitche: i was just kidding.01:59
MenZa!ops - [2007-10-08 01:52:56 CEST]  < meezyfuh> btw is nnh-bot supposed to be soliciting help with installation? or is he phishing01:59
ubot3MenZa: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:59
MenZa>_>01:59
t0nedefgmachine_24: Good for you, bsd has some irc channels you should visit, go to their website to get instructions http://www.freebsd.org01:59
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MenZa!ops [2007-10-08 01:52:56 CEST]  < meezyfuh> btw is nnh-bot supposed to be soliciting help with installation? or is he phishing01:59
ubot3MenZa: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:59
gmachine_24nik: ok, will try.01:59
MenZaOh for crying out loud02:00
JunecyCypher any luck?02:00
kitcheDrk_Guy: Slackware is the oldest distro debian is the second oldest active02:00
gmachine_24t0nedef will do02:00
Drk_GuyBsd is (another) *nix clone02:00
MenZa[2007-10-08 01:52:56 CEST]  < meezyfuh> btw is nnh-bot supposed to be soliciting help with installation? or is he phishing02:00
Drk_GuyYep02:00
Cypher21I install windows02:00
MenZa!ops02:00
ubot3Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso02:00
Drk_GuySlack is so old02:00
Drk_Guybut the more experienced one02:00
naliothMenZa: yes?02:00
Cypher21it loads it connected to the internet02:00
=== w30 's hp desktop machine hangs on reboot command. The system shuts down but the machine won't start the reboot process. Any one have any pointers?
SineFatowindows needs an anthropomorphic mascot so that we car draw tux and it in mortal kombat02:00
Junecycool.02:00
MenZanalioth: It would appear, that we have a phishing bot.02:00
JamesinatorMenZa: I think it's !ops | message02:00
Junecywere you dual booting?02:00
MenZa(See above)02:00
Cypher21how do i get grub back on02:00
t0nedefDrk_Guy> yah, but it used to be pure UNIX... a long time ago, the full version still is02:00
Junecyhold on I'll get you the link02:00
Cypher21k thinks02:00
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MenZaCheers nalioth02:01
Drk_GuySlack is *nix itself02:01
Drk_GuyBut with Lin*x core02:01
JunecyCypher: Follow this instructional https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:01
gmachine_24nikrud: can i post the results in the paste bin?02:01
Cypher21ok02:01
MenZa!offtopic02:01
ubot3#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:01
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nikrudgmachine_24, sure, the more eyes the better02:01
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t0nedefgmachine_24: note, BSD doesn't support new hardware as well as linux, so be sure to check the HCL before installing02:01
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Drk_GuyBsd is for the best guys02:01
MenZa!offtopic | t0nedef, gmachine_24, Drk_Guy02:02
LDS_Trooperhey guys, how can I make an ISO of a DVD ?02:02
ubot3t0nedef, gmachine_24, Drk_Guy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:02
Drk_GuyAnd Bsd users aren't as helpful as Linux ones02:02
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gmachine_24t0nedef: yes, i understanding they like to think of themselves as the badasses of unix/linux/oses in general02:02
Drk_GuyOk, ok Menza02:02
MenZaLDS_Trooper: I recommend gnomebaker or k3b02:02
orudieanyone please, this is a simple question, i have no sound because of this, i have to somehow access alsamixer , anyone please????.....?????02:02
keenanyone know if you can use direct rendering and xgl at the same time?02:02
zendoHi. Can someone please tell me what package(s) I need to install so I can compile "ordinary" GUI programs?02:02
SineFatoBSD doesn't have a cool name02:02
gmachine_24ok so how do i get to the paste bin. it's been awhile.02:02
MenZa!pastebin | gmachine_2402:02
ubot3gmachine_24: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:02
Drk_GuyBsd, cool?02:02
Drk_Guywt.?02:02
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LDS_TrooperMenZa,  I looked at gnomebaker.. not sure how tho02:02
t0nedeforudie: alsa mixer doesn't load at all?02:02
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gmachine_24MenZa: thanks02:03
hugojuz!alsa |hugojuz02:03
MenZaLDS_Trooper: k3b is probably your best bet. Unless it's a movie?02:03
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gmachine_24!pastebin | gmachine_2402:03
gmachine_24uhoh02:03
SineFatoand linux folks are cool02:03
sh3l1where is the gimp brushes folder located?02:03
orudiet0nedef, i dont even know how to load it02:03
Drk_Guyorudie: In a terminal: alsamixer02:03
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LDS_Trooperyes its a movie02:03
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t0nedeforudie: ah, i see02:03
firebird619Could someone help me? I am trying to get my digital speakers to work from both front and rear speakers. I know that front is hw:0,0 and rear is hw:0,1 however, I don't know what I have to put in the .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf to get sound from both at the same time.02:03
LDS_TrooperMenZa,  yes its a movie02:03
t0nedeforudie: well any volume control app should work02:03
MenZash3l1: /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes02:03
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sh3l1thanks02:04
MenZaLDS_Trooper: hmm, there are tools for tha02:04
Drk_Guysh3l1: /home/.gimp-2.2/brushes/ (If you don't want to share them)02:04
MenZaBut you need third-party tools02:04
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MenZaOr what Drk_Guy said.02:04
sh3l1oh, ok02:04
sh3l1thanks02:04
Drk_GuyYou share stuff if you put it into /usr folder02:04
Cypher21My hard makes CLICK sounds >.>02:04
nikrudgmachine_24, I'm in and out right now, so be sure to ping me a couple of times02:04
Cypher21<.<02:04
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t0nedeforudie: what desktop you using? is it gnome?02:04
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Cypher21harddrive*02:05
Drk_GuyGnome is the best02:05
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jsoftwxfce4 for the win.02:05
MenZaCypher21: Does it run :/?02:05
PeloCypher21,  I would suspect possible physical damange,  check with your local store02:05
SineFatoxkcd ftw02:05
blackes1hi my daemonsd are not being started anyt \y idea why02:05
Drk_GuyI've tried JWM, IceWM, and Flux02:05
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Drk_GuyBut Gnome got me02:05
MenZaSounds like your bearings are dying, Cypher21.02:05
sh3l1how do i make it so that i can write to /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes02:05
gmachine_24ok, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33193/02:05
t0nedefi use mwm personally02:05
LDS_TrooperMenZa, is it just "copy DVD" in baker?02:05
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jsoftwgnome is all fat. just like kde. :P02:05
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gmachine_24did i do that right02:05
michelsonhi, how do i see what kernel extensions i have installed?  e..g, PAE, smp, etc02:05
MenZaLDS_Trooper: No, you need third-party tools.02:05
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gdbum, did today's update really screw up anyone else's feisty machine, too?02:06
MenZamichelson: modprobe -l I think02:06
Cypher21I found the harddrive in my  room after i clean it :)02:06
PenguinsaremyfriAnyone know a good tutorial to enable dvd playback?02:06
Drk_Guyjsoftw: My machine runs it w/o probs02:06
MenZa!dvd | Penguinsaremyfri02:06
ubot3Penguinsaremyfri: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:06
michelsonMenZa: thanks!02:06
jsoftwDrk_Guy: sure it does.02:06
MenZamichelson: np :)02:06
LDS_TrooperMenZa,  ok... because Baker allows me to burn an iso.. I just need to make one02:06
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Drk_GuyHahaha02:06
Drk_GuyBaker02:06
gmachine_24pinguinsaremyfri: check out afterdawn.com02:06
Drk_Guylol02:06
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MenZaLDS_Trooper: Yes; I believe you need a third-party tool due to the copy restrictions they put on them these days.02:06
shwanghi02:06
SineFatoi got gnome and installed kde. kde reminds me of windows. and if i wanted windows i would use windows02:06
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MenZahello scaner02:06
MenZashwang*02:06
gmachine_24penguinsaremyfri: and videohelp.com02:07
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Junecycypher if it's clickin it may be going bad.02:07
sh3l1how do i make it so that i can write to "/usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes" sorry, i am a n00b02:07
Cypher21:P02:07
shwanghi MenZa02:07
jsoftwI have a machine running xfce4 and an identical machine running gnome beside me, which a workmate uses, and his always grinds to a halt.02:07
MenZash3l1: use sudo02:07
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SineFatohavent done xfce yet02:07
sh3l1how?02:07
t0nedefpenguinsaremyfri: what your looking for is libdvdcss2 you should google libdvdcss2 on ubuntu, it should be with in the top results *not the ads*02:07
JunecyMy partners laptop did that then a few days later it said it's final farewell02:07
orudiei have to mute the IEC958 Capture on alsamixer how can i do that?02:07
JunecyI still don't know why02:07
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jribsh3l1: you should be using ~/.gimp-2.2/brushes/02:07
MenZash3l1: e.g., if you're copying, sudo cp <file> /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes02:07
jsoftwMind you that could be just ubuntu being bloated, I dunno.02:07
PeloSineFato,  my thought excatly but I am also told that kde is a lot more versatile then gnome is or so Linus says02:07
PenguinsaremyfriThanks02:07
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Cypher21I hva my harddrive and there is no other wayto get one good as the one i have now02:07
MenZaBut do as jrib says02:07
LDS_TrooperMenZa, ok.. but this is not a commercial disc... are the tools in Synaptic?02:07
sh3l1thanks02:07
Papperna ciao02:07
gmachine_24did anyone read my fascinating pastebin post? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33193/02:07
MenZaLDS_Trooper: No, not to my knowledge.02:07
jribsh3l1: or 2.0 I guess if you are using 2.002:07
t0nedefPelo: no worries, you'll get one you know that you can answer02:07
MenZaLDS_Trooper: Give Google a quick whirl; "back up dvd linux" or similar02:07
Networkgameris anyone good with bluetooth in ubuntu?02:08
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LDS_TrooperMenZa, ok thanks...02:08
MenZa!bluetooth | Networkgamer02:08
ubot3Networkgamer: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup02:08
Mulvanefluxbox rocks kde02:08
MenZa!offtopic02:08
ubot3#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:08
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t0nedef!alsa02:08
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ubot3If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:08
shwangdoes anybody use "keyring-manager" to remember "wpa-settings" ???02:08
Junecy!broadcom02:08
ubot3Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:08
MenZaJesus, I've been helping in here for 3-4 hours now. I'm gonna need to crash off to bed. Night guys.02:08
zendoAnyone please? I need to compile some theme package for KDE but GCC keeps reporting to me that I don't have some X11 development libraries installed.02:08
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rosensturmFor some reason my whole system locks up if I run sdlmame with my xbox360 controller plugged in (With the compiled 369 driver of course).02:08
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Cypher21who made ubot3 :302:08
Networkgameryeah i followed this:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup02:08
Drk_GuyG'night MenZa02:08
Networkgamerbut whenever i do hcitool scan i get a connection time out error02:09
mneptokCypher21: Bob Henderson02:09
Pelozendo,  check in the package manager  look for the package needed and make sure you instalal the one with the -dev extension02:09
MenZaCypher21: Seveas manages it.02:09
Cypher21ok cool02:09
Drk_Guyrosensturm: Are they compiled correctly?02:09
gmachine_24MenZa: Thanks. sleep well02:09
mneptokMenZa: not ubot3 ;)02:09
MenZaMeh, I thought it was a typo. :(02:09
t0nedef meh, gotta jam, see everyone later02:09
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Pelozendo,  also this is a gnome channel, mostly,  try asking in #kubuntu for kde related stuff , they know better and they are actualy running it02:09
orudiecan anyone help me in alsa mixer i have to mute something called the IEC958 Capture manager , please anyone i have no sound02:09
shwangmy keyring doesn't remember wpa setting... and I'm stuck..02:09
rosensturmDrk_Guy, I get data from js0 so I guess so.02:10
sh3l1is there any way to sudo nautilus so that i can drag/drop?02:10
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shwangdoes anyone knows how to make "keyring" remember "wpa-setting" ???02:10
jribsh3l1: use ~/.gimp-2.0/brushes     ~ means /home/USERNAME02:10
Drk_GuyCompile them again and RECHECK stuff two times02:10
nephishsh3l1_: yep, from a terminal sudo nautilus02:10
Peloorudie, dbl click on the sound icon in the top pannel,  see in the menus for extended controls see if you can do what you need with those02:10
JunecyHow do I turn my wireless car don?02:10
Junecycard on*02:10
sh3l1oh thanks. all02:11
Networkgamerjunecy:do you know what device it is?02:11
sh3l1i got it now02:11
Junecyi ran iwconfig and it says that my card is turned off02:11
Pelo!wifi | Junecy02:11
ubot3Junecy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:11
JunecyKinda02:11
Networkgamerjunecy:what device is it?02:11
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Junecyit's a braodcom 4318 wireless card02:11
Junecy41e4:431802:11
Networkgamerlike /dev/wlan0 or /dev/wifi02:11
gmachine_24Junecy: broadcomm... the death of wireless02:11
Junecyno I dont02:11
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Networkgamerhmm...02:11
JunecyI think eth102:11
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PeloJunecy, look up your card model in the forum  maybe there is someting there02:11
pulgaany idea about why ubuntu doesnt poweroff the hardware when I 'shutdown -h now'? (apmd y acpid estan activos)02:11
JunecyI looked on that list02:11
gmachine_24Junecy: Do you have a driver loaded for it?02:11
Networkgamerdo iwconfig02:12
gmachine_24pulga: no.02:12
Networkgamerjust plain iwconfig02:12
JunecyI don't know02:12
JunecyI've been given many links to many different manuals and none have worked02:12
JunecyI did02:12
Networkgamerwhat devices came up?02:12
JunecyLet me post the results on pastebin02:12
Networkgamerok02:12
Junecylo, eth0 and eth102:12
mneptokJunecy: are you using fwcutter or ndiswrapper?02:13
gmachine_24Junecy: have you done sudo lshw?02:13
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Networkgamerdo sudo ifdown eth0 \ sudo ifdown eth102:13
Networkgamer|*02:13
Junecyndiswrapper02:13
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Networkgamersudo ifdown eth0 | sudo ifdown eth102:13
Junecygmachine_24 no02:13
mneptokJunecy: is that chipset suppoerted by fwcutter?02:13
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mneptok-e02:13
firebird619Could someone help me? I am trying to get my digital speakers to work from both front and rear speakers. I know that front is hw:0,0 and rear is hw:0,1 however, I don't know what I have to put in the .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf to get sound from both at the same time.02:13
JunecyI've never heard of fwcutter02:14
gmachine_24Junecy: try it and see if your card is there and if a driver is mentioned02:14
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Junecyhttp://pastebin.com/m6a8a82d602:14
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mneptokJunecy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear02:14
Networkgamerjunecy:do sudo ifdown eth1 | sudo ifup eth102:15
mneptokJunecy: you should use ndiswrapper only if fwcutter doesn't work for your device.02:15
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fromotioncan anyone tell me how to fix the font encoding to display correctly in bitchx?02:15
Junecybrb02:15
mneptokBitchX? people still use that? ;)02:16
Pelofromotion,  the ppl in #bitchx maybe ?02:16
fromotionit's not really a bitchx issue though02:16
fromotionhence why i'm asking here instead02:16
Junecymy wireless card is eth102:16
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mneptokfromotion: yes it is. other CLI apps understand UTF8. BX doesn't.02:16
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Networkgamerjunecy:do sudo ifdown eth102:16
iratikHow can i get sftp to open a connection on a port other than 22? I refuse to leave my server port 22 open ..... !? ??????02:16
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fromotionokay02:16
shwangcan anyone tell me how to keyring remember wpa-setting???02:16
gmachine_24Junecy: wicd.sourceforge.net is a tool I use02:17
w30pulga, there is something funky with Ubuntu; my machine won't reboot. It just shuts down the OS and hangs. It does shut down ok though02:17
Cypher22I need help to get my wireless to work on my ubuntu02:17
Junecyinterface eth1 not configured02:17
orudiePelo, is there a way i could test the sound in ubuntu? without playing the mpe?02:17
Pelofromotion,  just a thought , but since they are bitchx users they might have encountered the problem and know how to solve it  even if it is not caused by bitchx02:17
Networkgamernow ifup eth102:17
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orudiePelo, mp302:17
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orudiePelo, like internal sound check?02:17
Junecyignoring unknown interface eth1=eth102:17
Cypher22i have a 2wire wireless usb adpater and 2wire does not offer drivers for linux and i do not know how to get it to work on linux02:17
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Networkgamercypher:did it come with a cd?02:17
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Peloorudie, menu > system > prefs > hardware info,  tehre is a test button at the bottom of the dialog box02:18
Cypher22yea02:18
Networkgameri can guide you through ndiswrapper if you want02:18
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Nomad7i'm having some trouble with Network Manager; it isn't using the only available active network connection unless i tell it to - so i have to remind it every time it boots up02:18
Cypher22ok02:18
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w30pulga, it's one of them stupid funky hp machines without an off swith. Sure glad they don't build cars that way.02:18
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fromotionhrm02:18
shwangcan anyone tell me how to make keyring remember wpa-setting ...please???02:18
gmachine_24Ok gang: I am off. Thank you so much for your help. Sleep well and peace out.02:18
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Networkgamerso first google ndiswrapper and download it02:18
Junecyaparently I haven't gotten the card configured?02:18
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Networkgamergoogle like ndiswrapper ubuntu02:18
Cypher22Ok but do i need internet on my ubuntu for it to work02:18
RiyonukIs it wise to go back to previous version of ubuntu so I can actually use the internet?02:18
JunecyI have ndiswrapper installed02:19
Networkgameror the debian .deb is fine02:19
Junecyversion 1.902:19
Networkgamerim guiding cypher through installing ndiswrapper02:19
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JunecyAh02:19
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Cypher22ok let me boot to the windows site AND download it form there02:19
Junecymy bad02:19
Peloshwang,  you are not being ignored,  noone currently in can answer your question apparently,  try looking for an answer in the forum and ask your question again here periodicaly02:19
Cypher22my windows haves the inetnet :P02:19
Networkgamerok02:19
CyberWorldanyone know ho to change your monitor in a installed ubuntu 7.04 system?02:19
CyberWorldin settings...02:19
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CyberWorldgot me a lcd02:19
Drk_GuyCyberWorld: Are you trying to change X stuff?02:20
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w30does anyone have a help place me and pulga can get apm help?02:20
CyberWorldmy resolution02:20
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Drk_GuyOk02:20
CyberWorldbut yeah X stuff02:20
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Grungebunnysystem/preferences/screen resolution?02:20
Grungebunnyjust a guess02:20
Networkgameranyone familiar with hcitool?02:20
CyberWorldnope old values available02:21
Drk_GuyI think it is "sudo dpkg -reconfigure xorg xorgconf"02:21
Riyonuk?02:21
eugman|winnerEveryone install and play bombardier from the terminal. It's fun.02:21
Drk_GuyBut i don't remember that clearly02:21
RiyonukI would if I had internet -_-02:21
Drk_GuyThat cmd starts the X config wiz02:21
mneptokCyberWorld: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:21
Networkgameranywhere i can go for help with hcitool?02:21
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Drk_Guymneptok: xerver?02:22
Cypher22Networkgamer: Can i download the .deb files or do i need the source one?02:22
Drk_GuyIt's out of place02:22
Networkgamer.deb is fine02:22
Cypher22ok02:22
mneptokDrk_Guy: no, it's not02:22
mneptokDrk_Guy: that is the correct command02:22
Networkgamerubuntu is more like debian after all02:22
Drk_GuyIt's xorg xorgconf02:22
Networkgamerand i used the .deb02:22
mneptokDrk_Guy: no, it's not.02:22
Cypher22ok02:22
Nomad7mneptok is right02:22
Nomad7i'm having some trouble with Network Manager; it isn't using the only available active network connection unless i tell it to, is there some say i can tell it to activate the network automatically? or should i just remove network manager?02:22
Drk_GuyThat worked for me in Feisty02:23
shwangPelo : Thanks .. it's my very 1st time here..02:23
shwangI've been looking for the solution in the forum, and tried bunches of them.. but still in vain..02:23
Junecy!wifi02:23
ubot3Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:23
mneptokDrk_Guy: it has always been the same command, trust me :)02:23
Drk_GuyOk02:23
Peloshwang,   www.ubuntuforums.org02:23
mneptokDrk_Guy: /whois mneptok   ;)02:23
fromotionso uh02:23
Drk_GuyBut tell that to CyberWorld instead02:23
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fromotionthey say it isn't a bitchx issue02:23
fromotionany other suggestions?02:23
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Drk_GuyOh f***02:23
Drk_GuyYou part of...02:24
mneptokfromotion: try irssi. if it displays correctly, it is a BX issue.02:24
fromotionokay02:24
fromotionwell02:24
fromotionit's worked before02:24
CyberWorldk trying out02:24
Drk_GuyMy respects you gr8t master02:24
Cypher22I downloaded the debs files needed to run ndis so do i go back to ubuntu?02:24
mneptokDrk_Guy: hah! hardly ...02:24
shwangthanks Pelo !!!02:24
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fromotionworked fine in gnome, just doesn't work in xfce right now02:24
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mneptokDrk_Guy: but i *do* know dpkg-reconfigure ;)02:24
Networkgamercypher:yes02:24
Cypher22ok02:24
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Drk_Guydebian package manager, please reconfigure the xorg stuff02:25
Drk_GuyLOL02:25
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novato_brplz, what is the tool to recovered a file on fat 32 partition ?02:25
novato_bri'm on linux02:25
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e-Hernickwhat do you mean by "recover a file"02:26
CyberWorldk I think I have to reboot02:26
Drk_Guydpkg is for debian as rpm2cpio is for RedHAT02:26
Grungebunnyhello im nub.. a program I found I want to run came in the form of .tar.gz where is the guide to install this type of file.. up till now ive been using add/remove.02:26
e-Hernicknovato_br: do you want to access the FAT32 partition so you can read and change your files on that partition?02:26
mneptokGrungebunny: what app?02:26
novato_bre-Hernick,  undelete the file02:26
Drk_GuyCyberWorld: Ctrl+Alt+Bckspc02:26
Cypher22Newworkganer: i am installing the debs02:26
Networkgamerwho can help me with hcitool?02:26
Networkgamerok02:26
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Grungebunnyits called karumba02:26
novato_brnomin, e-Hernick , i want recovery my file02:26
Drk_GuyOr am i wrong with my rpm2cpio stuff, mneptok02:27
Drk_Guy=?02:27
PeloGrungebunny, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/02:27
mneptokGrungebunny: SuperKaramba?02:27
Grungebunnymneptok yeah thats it02:27
mneptokGrungebunny: are you using KDE?02:27
novato_brwhat is the tool to recovery files deleted?02:27
Cypher22Newworkgamer:I installed it now what do i do :)02:27
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Junecydo you ever jsut get frustrated with it all?02:27
Grungebunnymneptok I belive so.. isn't that what ubuntu uses?02:27
e-HernickGrungebunny: it varies from app to app.. but the usual procedure is unpack, configure, compile, install.. this would look like   > tar jxvf app-1.0.tar.gz; cd app-1.0; ./configure --prefix=/opt/app; make; sudo make install02:27
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CyberWorldyeah right Drk_Guy02:27
CyberWorldthx02:27
Networkgamercypher:put in your cd02:27
e-Hernickof course, this won't work for all apps.02:28
Cypher22ok02:28
CyberWorldtalking to friend real quick02:28
mneptokGrungebunny: no, Ubuntu uses GNOME. Kubuntu uses KDE.02:28
Drk_Guy4Nothin'02:28
PeloJunecy,  yes that is why we left windows02:28
Grungebunnyahhh02:28
Networkgamerand cd into it in a terminal02:28
Grungebunnyokay then02:28
Drk_GuyI'm here to help and be helped02:28
mneptokGrungebunny: sudo apt-get install gdesklets02:28
JunecyLinux for me isn't much better02:28
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JunecyThe things that work in window sdoens't in linux and vice versa02:28
PeloDrk_Guy,  what help do you need ?02:28
Grungebunnymneptok thanks for the help02:28
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Cypher22ok i put in the cd02:28
Networkgamercd into it02:28
mneptokGrungebunny: np. gdesklets is the "widget" app for GNOME02:28
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Drk_GuyGrungebunny: Ubuntu can also use KDE, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskto02:28
Networkgamerin a terminal02:28
Cypher22ok02:28
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Cypher22ok  did it02:29
Drk_GuyPelo: It was an "expression"02:29
Networkgamerwhat folders are there?02:29
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Cypher22There is a drivers folder and the installer :P02:29
Networkgamercd into drivers02:29
Cypher22lol ok02:29
LinuxFanBoyhi everyone02:29
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Networkgamerwhats in there?02:30
Drk_GuyOk02:30
novato_brwtf02:30
Cypher22ok i am in02:30
Drk_GuyOnly 20% for Wormux to unpack and install02:30
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PMantis6.10 recognized my monitor Hans-G monitor properly, but 7.04 doesn't. Can I replace a file in my new install to fix?02:30
Networkgamerwhat folders are in there?02:30
Cypher22non02:30
Cypher22none02:30
Cypher22no folders02:30
Networkgamerany files?02:30
JunecyI think I blacklisted the native driver for my wireless card02:30
Cypher22there is lots of .sys files and 1 ini02:30
Pelo!enter Cypher2202:30
ubot3Factoid enter cypher22 not found02:30
Junecyhow do I take it off the balcklist?02:30
Networkgamerok02:30
e-HernickPMantis: by "recognize your monitor" what do you mean? Does it not offer you all the resolution settings you want?02:30
Drk_GuyCypher22: While cd'ed into a directory, type "ls ./" to get a list of it's folders02:30
Cypher22i did02:31
Drk_GuyJust a lil' suggestion02:31
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Networkgamerdo ndiswrapper02:31
PMantise-Hernick: Exactly... it comes up as 640x480 in 7.1002:31
Drk_GuyNdiswrapper rocks02:31
Cypher22type in ndiswrapper?02:31
Networkgamerand hit enter02:31
Cypher22ok02:31
e-HernickPMantis: what's your video card? are you using restricted video drivers?02:31
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Cypher22ok i hit enter02:31
Networkgamerwhats the arguement for installing a file?02:31
Drk_GuyNdiswrapper installs WINDOWS drivers into Linux Cypher2202:31
Networkgamerits something like -i or -l02:31
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Cypher22its i02:31
Networkgamerok02:31
Drk_Guy-i for INF file drivers Networkgamer02:32
Networkgamerdo you remember the filename of the .ini?02:32
Cypher22-l will list drivers02:32
Cypher22yea02:32
n2diyhow can I use an irc server that isn't on my connect list, with xchat-gnome?02:32
Drk_GuyYep Cypher2202:32
Networkgamerdo ndiswrapper -i (ini file)02:32
PMantise-Hernick: Nothing restricted. LSPCI shows: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)02:32
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Drk_Guyn2diy: /server <irc-server>02:32
Drk_Guyworks for most IRC clients02:32
Cypher22ok did it02:32
e-HernickPMantis: Do you know how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?02:32
Networkgamernow do ndiswrapper again02:32
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Cypher22k02:33
n2diyDrk_Guy: I'll give it a try, thanks.02:33
Networkgamersomewhere at the bottom is a list of 4 commands02:33
Drk_Guy4Nothin'02:33
Cypher22did it02:33
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Networkgameris there a list of around 4 commands at the bottom?02:33
Drk_Guye-Hernick: Repairing or just editing=02:33
Drk_Guy=?02:33
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Cypher22yea02:33
PMantise-Hernick: I can feel my way around, but I don't memorize syntax. :) I'm sure I can also find a copy of the file from my old install (I love BackupPC)02:33
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Networkgamerwhat are they.you can pm them to me if their too long02:33
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Cypher22ok i will type the last 4 commands02:34
Drk_GuyNetworkgamer: Better use !paste so we can all help02:34
e-HernickPMantis: good, then you can find the Section "Monitor"... check if there are HorizSync and VertRefresh parameters in there02:34
Drk_Guy!paste > Networkgamer02:34
e-HernickHey, does anybody know of a working UPNP IGD client, that would let me add port redirections on an UPNP-compatible router (a WRT54G to be specific). I've tried miniupnp / upnpc, and I can list existing redirs, but I get an error when trying to add one.02:34
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Cypher22-m         write conf for modprobe02:35
Networkgameryeah i know what a pastebin is02:35
Networkgamerdo that one02:35
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LindoPibehello babys02:35
e-HernickGAIM is able to add redirs for itself just fine on that very computer, so I know UPNP IGD is working correctly on my router.02:35
Cypher22-ma wire module alias conf for all drfivers02:35
Cypher22ok02:35
Cypher22how do i use it?02:35
Cypher22the pastebin02:36
Networkgamerok this is the either long or short part,depending on your system02:36
Networkgamerdfo modprobe ndiswrapper02:36
Networkgamerdo*02:36
Cypher22ok02:36
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Networkgamerdid it work?02:36
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Networkgameror no file/directory?02:36
Junecynetwork gamer I've just done that step myself about 2 minutes ago and I still have nothing02:36
PMantise-Hernick: monitor has 2 lines... one looks like a label, and the other turns on DPMS. No refresh options. (BTW, this is a laptop, so external monitor is diff from LCD)02:36
Cypher22i type it in02:36
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Networkgamerand hit enter02:36
Cypher22my Pc is beeping O_o02:37
jrib!away > Akifemre[afk]  (see the private message from ubotu)02:37
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e-HernickPMantis: do you have two Section "Monitor" or a single one02:37
Cypher22i think the command is still running02:37
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Networkgamerok02:37
Cypher22My wireless turned on02:37
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cescalanteinstalled a new gfx card on an install of ubunutu, it has now disabled my xserver02:37
Networkgameras long as it doesnt give a missing file error02:37
Drk_GuyPMantis: why don't you just run the Xorg wiz?02:37
cescalantehwo do I configure my xserver so I can get my gui back?02:37
JunecyNetworkgamer: I did the same steps and nothing02:37
e-HernickDrk_Guy: yeah, how does he do that?02:37
Cypher22My wireless cannot scan for networks but i know my wireless network name :P02:38
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Drk_Guysudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:38
DILi am trying to get Zoneminder to run is there a command to make it run from terminal?02:38
Drk_GuyIn SAFE MODE02:38
e-HernickDrk_Guy: and what's the command cescalante can do to have his xorg.conf regenerated ? is it the same command?02:38
n2diyDrk_Guy: It worked, but I guess it dumped me off freenode.net, can't connect to two irc servers at the same time?02:38
Networkgamerjunecy:you did modprobe ndiswrapper and didnt get ANY output at all?02:38
fromosame problem in irssi02:38
aviscescalante, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg assmung you know what you are doing02:38
fromoheh02:38
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JunecyThat's correct02:38
Drk_GuyyEP02:38
Networkgamerthats good02:38
e-Hernickdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the most awful UI I've seen in a long time though02:38
Cypher22what do i do now? its on02:38
Drk_GuyIt regenarates the whole Xorg.conf file e-Hernick02:38
Junecyafter I ran modprobe ndiswrapper I ram lsmod to double check and it still isn't in use\02:38
Networkgamerdo iwconfig02:38
e-HernickDrk_Guy: but isn't there a command to try an automatic reconfigure?02:38
Networkgamerjunecy:restart02:39
Drk_Guye-Hernick: You want eye-candy or performance?02:39
Junecyok02:39
e-HernickDrk_Guy: for example, when ubuntu is installed, it automagically creates a xorg.conf02:39
Cypher22the command looks like its not done or something becuase i can't tpye anything it in yet02:39
e-HernickDrk_Guy: do you know what that command is?02:39
Networkgamercypher:do lspci and iwconfig02:39
Drk_GuyI haven't tried the mneptok one02:39
Nomad7Do I need Network Manager at all if my computer is going to be perpetually plugged into the same network all the time?02:39
Cypher22ok02:39
Networkgamercypher:lspci | iwconfig02:39
Drk_GuyBut /whois him and find-out who he is really....02:39
n2diyI may get a chance to deploy Ubuntu in a public library, how can I create a guest account without sudo privledges?02:39
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Drk_GuyMy method is "sudo dpkg -reconfigure xorg xorg.conf02:40
spettitanybody feel like assisting me with getting a graphics card installed02:40
Networkgamern2diy:remove him from the sudoers file02:40
Cypher22i type it in02:40
Networkgamerok02:40
Drk_GuyYeah!02:40
DILi am trying to get Zoneminder to run is there a command to make it run from terminal?02:40
Drk_Guywormux is up!02:40
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Cypher22i go eth0 and ki02:40
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fromotionnmeptok: any other suggestions?02:40
Cypher22lo*02:40
Nomad7sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:40
Nomad7that should work02:40
Cypher22its lo not ki02:40
Networkgamerok,try restarting02:40
Cypher22ok02:40
n2diyNetworkgamer: Ok, that is simple enough, thanks.02:40
orudiePelo, ARE YOU THERE?02:40
spettiti am having some issues with a nVidia 7600 GT 256 MB PCIe 16x02:41
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Networkgamern2diy:i dont know exactly what to do but thats what you do02:41
orudiedoes anyone know how to change from [playback]  to [capture]  view in alsamixer?02:41
Junecyokay now try running iwconfig again?02:41
Cypher22ubuntu is loading02:41
n2diyNetworkgamer: Ok, I'll experiment.02:41
Networkgamerwhatever names are in the sudoers file get root privelages by typing sudo or su02:41
Networkgamerjunecy:yes02:41
JunecyI got the same readout as earlier02:41
Networkgamerhmm...02:42
JunecyPower management:off02:42
Networkgameri believe this is where i got stuck...02:42
Networkgamerdo ndiswrapper -l02:42
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JunecyI blacklisted soemthing earlier as one of the tutorials told me to02:42
cescalantethanks!02:42
Cypher22ok its done loading02:42
Junecyis there a way to edit the blacklist to take off the entwork card?02:42
spettiti tried to install fiesty fawn but couldn't unless i installed in text mode02:42
orudiei have to mute something called IEC 958 Capture, however i am having difficulty finding it, found IEC 958 playback, but not IEC 958 Capture, anyone please be kind and help me if you know how to, i have been stuck on this for hours, i dont have sound in ubuntu because of this02:42
montesluis flashplugin-nonfree still the name of the adobe flash player?02:42
Networkgameryes,thats the plash player02:42
Networkgamerflash*02:43
Cypher22what do i do not ubuntu is loaded02:43
Cypher22is loaded*02:43
Networkgamerin terminal do ndiswrapper -l02:43
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Cypher22ok02:43
Networkgamerdid it say it detected the hardware and the driver is loaded02:43
Cypher22driver installed02:43
montesluNetworkgamer, which repo is it in? I don't see it in synaptic02:43
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PManti1e-Hernick: I restarted gdm with only my external monitor enabled... all is good after my edits. Thanks for pointing me there!02:44
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JunecyI got the same02:44
Networkgamermonteslu:do it in a terminal02:44
monteslutried still not found02:44
Cypher22my wireless is not backon but it says its installed02:44
keendoes anyone know a good program to create a video dvd from an avi file?02:44
PManti1e-Hernick: For some reason, I assumed it was more difficult. heh02:44
monteslubut apt-get update is dying02:44
Networkgamerok...02:44
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monteslumaybe i don't have a good list02:44
Junecynetworkgamer: same here02:44
montesluits erroring about a bad zip file its downloading02:44
Networkgamercypher and junecy:you both are at the same point atm02:44
montesluedubuntu, BTW02:44
Junecyright02:45
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mayoHello02:45
Networkgamerlet me think...02:45
Junecyifdown and ifup?02:45
Networkgamerdo ndiswrapper again and read out those last 4 commands again02:45
mayoCan you install Art Manager in synaptic in ubuntu?02:45
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Cypher22ok02:45
Networkgamerput them in a pastebin02:45
Junecywhich command?02:46
Cypher22-v      report version info02:46
montesluis anyone else currently getting errors from apt-get update?02:46
keensoooo nobody does....02:46
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mayoor app that lets you download wallpapers from a app launcher like in Suse that connects to kde-look.org?02:46
Networkgamerjust ndiswrapper02:46
Cypher22-i        write module install conf for all drivers02:46
Cypher22-mi*02:46
Junecyit says I need to give it an option02:46
Networkgameri know02:46
Networkgameri jsut want the last 4 commands02:46
Cypher22-i        write module install conf for all drivers02:47
Cypher22-mi        write module install conf for all drivers02:47
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Cypher22there02:47
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JunecyWell this is wherre I get stuck02:47
JunecyI don't know what last four commands you wnat or how to get them.02:48
JunecyPlease specify.02:48
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Networkgamerim thinking...02:48
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sixtyeightIs there a way to disable "Alt+LeftClick=Drag Window"? I just reinstalled Feisty and the Keyboard "Alt/Win Behavior" options are not the same as I had them last week, and there is nothing there to disable it.02:48
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Networkgamerjunecy and cypher: ndiswrapper -m | modprobe ndiswrapper02:49
JunecyI got this when I did ndiswrapper -v (utils Error: no version specified!02:49
Junecy)02:49
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Networkgameroooooooooooh02:49
Junecydid it no read out02:49
Cypher22u need sudo02:49
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Networkgamersudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common02:50
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BoomphanDESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU02:50
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Cometstyles!op02:50
ubot3Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso02:50
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ST47Oh my god02:50
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Cypher22what?02:50
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Cypher22SPAM?02:50
astro76!ops02:50
Jeff_Mitchellhi all, does anyone know if ubuntu 6.06 comes with ssh-server software by default, or do i need to use apt-get to install it? i installed it in server mode.02:50
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Cypher22WE need op in here fast!02:52
Liquinn?02:52
robCypher22, I'm on it02:52
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poningruwhatsup02:52
Cypher22Someone is IRC flooding the room02:52
robCypher22, it has stopped02:52
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Liquinnhi rob02:52
Cypher22i am still closing on the error msgs02:52
Networkgamercypher:get my message?02:52
robhi Liquinn02:52
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OmnipotentEntityDoes anyone remember the program that checks your md5sums against the package to make sure you haven't suffered file corruption?02:52
Cypher22yea02:52
Networkgamerok02:52
Cypher22i have it installed aready02:53
Networkgamerdid it finish?02:53
poningruOmnipotentEntity: md5sum ?02:53
Liquinnok02:53
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poningru!info md5sum02:53
ubot3Package md5sum does not exist in edgy02:53
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EJ[ rob] : do you have the spammers info ?02:53
Cypher22i already installed it newwrokgamer02:53
Networkgamernow sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils02:53
tank71wasnt a big flood....02:53
robEJ, yes02:53
OmnipotentEntityponingru, It's a program the automates that process.02:53
EJi hae it if you need it02:53
EJok02:53
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poningruoh?02:53
Cypher22Newworkgamer i have that installed too02:53
Networkgamerok02:53
poningruOmnipotentEntity: is it for like an iso?02:53
poningruisomd5sum02:54
OmnipotentEntityNo it's for your packages.02:54
DILi am trying to get Zoneminder to run is there a command to make it run from terminal?02:54
Networkgamerndiswrapper -m | modprobe ndiswrapper02:54
Junecyit says all kinds of error messages02:54
fromotiondoes anyone else have any suggestion for fixing the font encoding to display correctly in BitchX?02:54
Cypher22Let me get the ip pof the spammer after i get my wireless to work02:54
poningruOmnipotentEntity: thats built into apt02:54
JunecyE: Package ndiswrapper-utils has no installation candidate02:54
fromotionoh and irssi also02:54
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LifeisfunnyI tried the tweak but I can't get fastwrites going on my computer, I think my nvidia card is scanked.02:54
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poningruJunecy: what wifi chipset do you have?02:54
corentinHi all02:54
Junecybcm431802:54
Lifeisfunnyor is it skanked?02:54
OmnipotentEntityAfter it's already installed and has sat for a while.  It's to test for file corruption.02:54
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Networkgamerponingru:im guiding him through ndiswrapper02:55
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poningruJunecy: why do you need ndiswrapper?02:55
spettitanybody know know how to install nvidia graphics drivers in fiesty fawn02:55
poningrubut why?02:55
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spettitor where do i need to go to find out02:55
Junecybecause the native driver wasn't working02:55
CyberWorldthx Drk_Guy02:55
Networkgamerits easy02:55
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CyberWorldhe still here02:55
poningruJunecy: just do apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter02:55
Junecywill that superceed the ndiswrapper crap that's taken up 3 hours of my time tonight?02:55
Lifeisfunnyspettit, go to nvidia.com for newest drivers02:55
nephishspettit_: the way i did it was clicked enable desktop effects in preferences02:55
poningruJunecy: bcm43xx-fwcutter02:55
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poningruJunecy: yes02:55
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poningruJunecy: just install that and restart02:56
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nephishspettit, it prompted me to download the nvidia-glx package02:56
CyberWorld.seen02:56
CyberWorldseen02:56
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Networkgamerjunecy:ndiswrapper took me 3 days to figure out02:56
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CyberWorld!seen02:56
ubot3Factoid seen not found02:56
Junecycouldn't find package bcm43xx-fwcutter02:56
Networkgamer3 hours is nothing02:56
pawanhi02:56
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spettitnepfish/Lifeisfunny: i need to be able to do it from command prompt because i can't get x to load02:56
JunecyI don't have 3 days Networkgamer02:56
Networkgamerjunecy:apt-cache pkgnames fwcutter02:56
JunecyI have class02:56
DILi am a newb and the tutorials at the unbutu site were excellent the only newb thing was that i did not enable repositiries02:57
Cypher22i tpye in the commands02:57
EJtook me 10 minutes for ndiswrapper, it pretty self explanitory02:57
pawangdm could not write to ur authorization file error02:57
Cypher22my wireless still didn't turn on02:57
poningruJunecy: what version of ubuntu are you running?02:57
NetworkgamerEJ:i had a completely new system02:57
DILfor the 431802:57
Junecy7.0.402:57
ConstyXIVif i've got a text file, and i'm looking for 8-letter words with the pattern ??f?o?o?, what would the grep syntax be?02:57
poningrudo you have multiverse on?02:57
needsleephow can I create a copy of stage1 under windows if I were to create the other partitions requeried by ubuntu manually and boot that copy using boot.ini ?02:57
JunecyI dunno02:57
EJwell mine isnt new but its a new Ubuntu install02:57
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nephishspettit, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx02:57
poningruJunecy: go to system->admin->synaptic package manager02:57
Cypher22networkgamer: i did the commands but my usb wireless is still not back on02:57
EJrtl8185 wlan card02:57
NetworkgamerEJ:it was the first think i ever installed on my laptop02:57
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Junecyok02:58
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EJahhh cool02:58
pawanunable to login02:58
Networkgamercypher:now do lspci02:58
Cypher22ok02:58
poningruJunecy: go to repositories02:58
LifeisfunnyI think if you can't get X to load it's back to the drawing board with:    sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg02:58
Cypher22ok did it02:58
Cypher22now what i do :)02:58
Junecyok02:58
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poningruJunecy: its under one of the menu items02:58
Networkgamerput the output in a pastebin02:58
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EJ[Cypher22] : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper02:59
Cypher22Its will take me hours O_o02:59
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spettitnephish: after sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx is there anything else that is needd to be done02:59
rhino0nTanyone here knows of a channel for svn support in this servers?02:59
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pawanhello02:59
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poningruJunecy: did you find it?02:59
Cypher22yet me find the wireless driver in it then tpye that in02:59
Junecydownload from the internet: software restricted by CopyRight or legal issues (multiverse) is checked02:59
Lifeisfunnyhello pawan02:59
Networkgamercyoher:just the last chunk is fine02:59
poningruJunecy: go do a reload02:59
Networkgamercypher*02:59
Junecygot it02:59
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DILZoneMinder anyone?03:00
nephishspettit, open /etc/x11/xorg.conf and change the driver  'nv' to driver 'nvidia' in your device section save and restart x03:00
Junecysearch for fwcutter?03:00
Cypher22ok03:00
pawangdm could not write to ur authorization file error03:00
nephishspettit, been in linux long?03:00
sparrlocalepurge just deleted over 100MB worth of locale data that i didn't want...  thats both amazing and disturbing.  does ubuntu have any system to legitimately manage locale data?  its silly to waste that much disk space on files that I will never use.03:00
Cypher22but that last line is details about my WIRED network card03:00
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Networkgamerpawan:did you do it with the command sudo?03:00
Cypher22my wireless is usb03:00
poningruJunecy: yeah03:00
Networkgamerok03:00
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ConstyXIVanyone know grep in here?03:00
poningruJunecy: or bcm03:00
spettitjust learning03:00
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Networkgamerdo lsusb03:00
pawanunable to login03:00
Cypher22ok03:01
Junecyit's fetching and extracting firmware03:01
Networkgameranything about your wireless card?03:01
Cypher22nope03:01
Junecythere was an error03:01
montesluanyone having trouble with apt-get update right now?03:01
nephishspettit, are you in a graphical shell or terminal only ?03:01
Cypher22yet try to turn it on03:01
poningruJunecy: what was the error?03:01
poningrupastebin it if its too big03:01
pawanur home directory could not be opened03:01
Junecycan we go private so I don't flood the room?03:01
Junecyok03:01
poningru!pastebin | Junecy03:01
ubot3Junecy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:01
Networkgamerpawan:type su,then hit enter,then put your password03:01
spettiti'll be in the graphical and terminal03:02
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JunecyI know pastebin03:02
Junecy:-P03:02
poningrusorry03:02
poningru:)03:02
JunecyE: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error03:02
Junecyit's not that long03:02
EJ[Cypher22] : sudo nidswrapper -i "windriver.inf"03:02
Cypher22i got the drive running03:02
pawanbut i  am not getting the terminal03:02
Junecyexity status 103:02
poningruJunecy: hmm that is weird03:02
nephishspettit, cool you can use gedit to edit config files, from a terminal sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:02
Cypher22lsusb is not comming out with anything now03:02
JunecyI am thinking about reinstalling ubuntu and starting fresh03:03
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Networkgamerhmm03:03
Networkgamerdo iwconfig03:03
spettiti'm jotting this all down now03:03
EJ[ Cypher22] : then sudo ndiswrapper -l to see if it loaded the driver03:03
JunecyI think then I can install fwcutter03:03
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astro76Junecy, I read about this problem today, I think the host is above the quota... you can get it here instead http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/feisty-cafuego/all/03:03
poningruJunecy: can you go do sudo aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter in a command line03:03
spettitright now i'm at work03:03
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flickenMy DVD drive will not mount any type of media03:03
pawani get the login windows03:03
poningruJunecy: hmm follow what astro76 said03:03
nephishah03:03
pawanwhen i try to login it says03:03
EJ[ Cypher22] : then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper03:03
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spettiti'm using my shell account and bitchx to get irc03:03
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pawangdm could not write to ur authorization file error03:03
Junecyokay brb03:03
pawanur home directory could not be opened03:04
linux_ubuntu 7.1 will include KDE 4 ?03:04
spettitnephish03:04
NetworkgamerEJ:he's past that03:04
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EJ[ Networkgamer] : oh ok03:04
Networkgamerhe already modprobed it03:04
needsleepcan I manually edit stage1 somehow under windows ? or is there a way (let's say to emulate what I need with qemu) and retrieve the file from there ?03:04
Cypher22if i do a command that shows anyhting about my usb driver it will freeze03:04
Networkgamerbut its still not in his system03:04
orudiedoes anyone know how to view the capture devices in alsamixer ?03:04
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nigrohi03:04
EJ[ Networkgamer] : and it isnt listing it ?03:04
Junecyuhm...03:04
EJhmmmmm03:04
Networkgamernope03:04
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JeevesMosswhat's better and easier to configure virtual hosts in for a fairly new person to Ubunut?  Postfix or Sendmail?  I need both pop3 and smtp03:04
Jack_Sparrowpawan: TIme to restore from that backup you made..03:04
Junecydo I add these as repositories?03:04
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poningruJunecy: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/feisty-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb03:05
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spettitnephish, i have ubuntu installed fine on my laptop but when installing it on my new desktop i ran into some problems.  it wouldn't install in graphical mode03:05
poningruno just install that03:05
scamhow do you tell if you got 3d support with your video card?03:05
poningruand that is packaged by our very own cafuego03:05
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JeevesMossjack_sparrow:  hey man, how's your night going?03:05
spettitnephish, i installed in text mode but then it wouldn't start x03:05
JunecyI'll give this a shot03:05
Jack_SparrowHey JeevesMoss,  Just waiting to head back to the hospital.03:05
pawanhow03:05
skipgn803:05
EJ[ Cypher22] : have you tried a different windows driver?03:06
spettitnephish, next started in safe mode and its up at the cli03:06
JeevesMossjack_sparrow:  are you ok?  anything serious?03:06
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Cypher22I only have 1 driver ej03:06
Networkgamercypher:do ndiswrapper -l again03:06
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Cypher22i restart my pc becuase it frooze then i will do it03:06
Networkgamermake sure it says the hardware is present03:06
EJ[ Cypher22] : win9x or win2k/xp ?03:06
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Cypher22its xp03:06
Junecyit said installed03:06
ZombieWerewolfattention: What driver package/software package do I need to enable support for my gamepads?03:07
Jack_SparrowJeevesMoss: I am fine thanks...  friend isnt doing well, probably wont make it to the weekend.. Thanks for the kind thoughts.. no more off topic.. If you need you can always go to Mepis or Voyager03:07
Ominoushow can i get a 5 button mouse working?03:07
JunecyNOw what?03:07
agent47acan someone comment on the upgrade path for ubuntu?  i'm about 2-months new and i just looked into upgrade CentOS 4 to 5.  CentOS upgrade path is very hit or miss.  How has upgrading Ubuntu been like?  Dapper to Feisty?  I just want to know what to expect when going from 7.04 to 7.10.03:07
astro76!mouse | Ominous03:07
ubot3Ominous: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto03:07
pawanhello03:07
EJ[ Cypher22] : are you using the driver from the nic website or from the provided cd ?03:07
ZombieWerewolf!gamepad | me03:07
ubot3Factoid gamepad not found03:07
Networkgamerhe used the one from the cd03:07
JeevesMossjack_sparrow:  mepis or voyager?  I'm hosting 3 virtual sites, and I need a system that's SIMPLE to configure/setup03:07
Cypher22for the site that made by hardware03:07
Jack_Sparrowagent47a: Be sure to make a backup...03:07
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pawangdm could not write to ur authorization file error03:08
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EJ[ Cypher22] : did you get a 4stacks error installing ndiswrapper ?03:08
Cypher22nope03:08
poningruJunecy: reboot03:08
Cypher22no errors03:08
Junecyokay brb03:08
Cypher22ubuntu frooze on boot up03:08
Jack_SparrowJeevesMoss: Mepis is dead...  Voyager is just a empty room for friends....03:08
NetworkgamerEJ:you think you got cypher handled03:08
Cypher22my wireless turned on then the boot loader just stop but it sounds like it loading03:08
JeevesMossJack_sparrow:  ahhh, ok.  well, I would like your opinion on the mail server thing.03:09
EJ[ Cypher22] : and the nic work in a winbox ?03:09
Lifeisfunnyagent47a, I don't think you can go from 6.06 to 7.04 without 6.1003:09
EJ[ Networkgamer] : yeah i can help him from here03:09
Networkgamerok03:09
Networkgamerthanks03:09
Cypher22ok now i see loads of commands03:09
EJ[ Networkgamer] : anytime03:09
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Cypher22its loading very slowy but i think its working03:09
taxmanCypher22: my laptop does that. Goes blank for a while during boot, then works just fine03:10
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pawangdm could not write to ur authorization file error03:10
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EJ[ Cypher22] : you've just rebooted ?03:10
Jack_SparrowJeevesMoss: I dont have an opinion right now.. not all together with it...  You want to setup a simple mail server ... I can make myself a note and chat tomorrow or soon..03:10
pawanur home directory could not be opened03:10
taxmanI think the splashscreen just doesn't work for me03:10
Cypher22yea03:10
Networkgamerpawan:are you in livecd?03:10
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pawanno03:10
pawanon the installed version03:10
Networkgamerwhat are you trying to do?03:10
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JeevesMossjack_sparrow:  that's cool.  do you have my e-mail to send what you've got in mind?  I might not be on here.03:10
pawani am unable to login03:11
EJ[ Cypher22] : ok run "sudo ndiswrapper -l" to see if your nic driver loaded03:11
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Junecyokay How do I check ot see if it installed and is working proerly?03:11
Networkgamerhave you thought about reinstalling?03:11
Cypher22I see this ej *configuring network interfaces...   [OK]    _03:11
ConstyXIVi'm using stellarium on feisty, with a r200 series card ('radeon'), and all the text is unreadable03:11
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Networkgameralso note that there are no caps in the login name03:11
Jack_SparrowJeevesMoss: Give it to me in Voyager....  Ill give you mine as well03:11
EJ[ Cypher22] : your still booting up right ?03:11
Cypher22its stuck rught there and no desktop03:11
Cypher22yea03:11
Cypher22sounds like it loading but i am not sure03:11
pawancould be running out of sapce03:11
poningruJunecy: it should be do you have any wifi networks in your area?03:11
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EJ[ Cypher22] : yeah give it a sec and let me know when its done booting up03:12
JeevesMossjack_sparrow:  see ya there in a sec.03:12
JunecyI have a wireless network setup here at home03:12
Cypher22i think it froze :(03:12
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Junecymy network card still doens't work03:12
JunecyI went into network tools to see if it were turned on but it wasn't03:12
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EJ[ Cypher22] : do you see the hdd activity light flickering ?03:12
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seanjhello, why is it taking hours to configure "flashplugin-nonfree" ?03:13
Cypher22no03:13
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EJ[ Cypher22] : hit the enter key and see if it brings you to a login03:13
JeevesMossanyone else want to comment on the mail server?03:13
jmchaffieCan somebody help with java and firefox?03:13
Cypher22its just bring that _ down more03:13
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jmchaffieI've tried everythingI can find online, but I still can't get firefox or netscape to recognise java 503:14
EJ[ Cypher22] : ok try a reboot again, turn it completly off, wait 10 seconds and turn back on.03:14
Cypher22should i disconncect my wireless usb and then reconnect when it fully loads?03:14
Jack_Sparrowyes03:14
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EJ[ Cypher22] : not yet03:14
Cypher22ok03:14
EJ[ Cypher22] : ok try a reboot again, turn it completly off, wait 10 seconds and turn back on.03:14
jribjmchaffie: did you install the sun-java5-plugin package?03:14
carlosI heard there was a script that could Compiz Fusion from source. Can anyone provide more information or a link?03:14
jmchaffiejrib: yes I did03:15
Jack_SparrowJeevesMoss: Yes?03:15
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Lifeisfunny   #compiz-fusion03:15
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jmchaffiejrib: I've also tried several sym links as well.. no luck :(03:15
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JunecyI black listed it earlier and I think that has something to do with it03:15
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Junecyhow do I check the blacklist?03:15
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Cypher22it froze again03:15
Cypher22:(03:15
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jribjmchaffie: join me in #ubuntu-classroom03:16
jmchaffieok03:16
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EJ[ Cypher22] : try removing the nic then reboot03:16
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Cypher22i wish 2wire will release there drivers source codes :(03:17
Junecyokay on the blacklist is bcm43xx03:17
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Cypher22ubuntu is loading03:17
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Cypher22its loade03:17
bruenigI thought 2wire only sold routers03:17
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Cypher22they seel wireless stuff too03:17
Junecyis there a safe way to remove my wireless card from the balcklist?03:17
EJ[ Cypher22] : it loaded up ?03:17
Cypher22yea loging in03:17
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PerceptHi guys, I've got a problem with a harddisk and I have a plan but I would like to know if it has a chance of working before I try it. Is it ok if I explain it here ?03:18
Junecy!blacklist03:18
ubot3To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 03:18
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Cypher22its loaded should i plug it back in?03:18
wellyhi all, I want to install ruby 1.8.6 which I believe is in gutsy. I'm running 7.04, and suggestions how I can do this?03:18
EJ[ Cypher22] : i think thats the issue. try a different usb port and reboot. see if it still locks up03:18
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Networkgameranytone familiar with hcitool?03:18
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quanquan?03:19
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Cypher22it turns back on when i plug it in03:19
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quanquanhttp://drupal.quanquan.org03:19
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quanquanhoho03:20
Cypher22i think it will do the same if i restart :P03:20
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Cypher22even with dir port03:20
EJ[ Cypher22] : run lsusb and see if the system has setected it03:20
Cypher22dif*03:20
Cypher22ok03:20
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Networkgamercypher:do iwconfig03:20
Networkgamerafter lsusb03:20
ari_stresshello all03:20
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ari_stresswazzup03:20
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Jack_SparrowPercept: What is the problem?03:20
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Cypher22lsusb does not return anything03:20
PerceptOk, here goes ...03:21
Junecycan I sudo gedit blacklist?03:21
seanjmy add-remove applications ting is stuck on "flashplugin nonfree", can I cancel it?03:21
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KleRoihello, i just installed ubuntu but somehow my firefox browser works fine with every site but it doesnt go on google... anyone has a clue why?03:21
Networkgamerseanj:do ctrl-c03:21
seanjk03:21
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PerceptI've got win Xp SP2 and today one of my harddrives started acting up ... I could see it in Windows explorer (along with the root folders on the disk) but when I clicked on any of them XP crashed with an exception and auto-rebooted.03:22
EJ[ Cypher22] : ok its turning on the nic when you plug it in but the systme does not detect it or recognize that it has been plugged in03:22
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PerceptI've run several disk diagnostics tools al they al show my disk is 100% fine03:22
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NET||abuseI've a server running on dapper here for a good while now... problem is I don't have mod_rewrite installed,, it's not in the deb's for this box anywhere just now, where do i get the package from?03:22
JunecyI took bcm43xx off my blacklist03:22
Cypher22Do i reinstall the driver?03:22
EJno03:22
JunecyI'm going to reboot and see if this solved the problem03:22
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Perceptbut windows doesn't let le get my files ... so I was thinking of making a bootable Ubuntu disk and see if I can get my files of the disk with Ubuntu03:23
Cypher22every command that does anything to the usb hardware it will not return or it will freeze03:23
EJ[ Cypher22] : all we should have to do is make the system detect that there has been something plugged into the usb port03:23
trakouthey... I'm new.. how can I change a file in /ect/, I don't have permissions.. how do I get them?03:23
Cypher22k03:23
EJ[ Cypher22] : have you had this nic tested on this laptop with windows ?03:23
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Jack_SparrowPercept: Sure, I do that all the time...   Do you have a big usb or a second hd to drop in to copy files over into..?03:23
KleRoianyone knows why it seems that i can't go on google with ubuntu? o_O03:23
Networkgamertrakout:start all commands with sudo03:23
trakoutokay03:24
Cypher22It works on windows fine03:24
Perceptyup got a Lacie 600 gig03:24
EJ[ Cypher22] : sounding like a hardware confilct03:24
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Networkgamerkleroi:do you have ethernet cord hooked in?03:24
KleRoiNetworkgamer: uhm... what do you mean?03:24
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EJ[ Cypher22] : 1 sec, lemme look something up real quick03:24
Networkgameris there an ethernet cord going from your computer to a router thats connected to the internet03:24
PerceptDoes Ubuntu recognise disk by itself etc ... I really havn't worked with linux yet ... but MS is forcing me now :)03:25
Cypher22ok03:25
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Jack_SparrowPercept: You should not have any trouble... What is the format on that bad boy03:25
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sethkPercept, slmost always, yes03:25
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sethks/slmost/almost/03:25
KleRoiNetworkgamer:  yes i think its like that03:25
Networkgamerok03:25
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Networkgameropen up a terminal03:25
pawanhow to access ntfs and fat32 files fromubuntu03:25
Perceptformat, NTFS/FAT you mean ? It's NTFS03:25
KleRoiNetworkgamer: ok i did that03:25
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Jack_SparrowPercept: access isnt a problem03:25
pegwolein Soviet Russia, terminal open you!03:25
Networkgamertype sudo ifdown eth003:25
KleRoilol pegwole03:25
Mr_Grieves_Hi, I was having trouble with apache, so I removed the package, deleted /etc/apache*, and reinstalled the package. The problem is, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf wasn't regenerated. Any ideas?03:26
Jack_SparrowPercept: Writing to your new drive ... depends on the format03:26
EJ[ Cypher22] : do you happen to have any other USB devices you can plug in to see if it locks or detects ?03:26
trakoutI used sudo -i.. then, I tried cd /ect/ it's saying that the dir doesn't exist?03:26
sethktrakout, /etc, not /ect03:26
Cypher22my mouse is usb and it works fine03:26
jonathonNeed help with installing flash player using the terminal. New to Ubuntu.03:26
Networkgamerkleroi:type sudo ifdown eth003:26
Cypher22same thing for my keybroad03:26
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PerceptJack_Sparrow: it's NTFS03:26
Networkgamertrakout:its etc,not ect03:26
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ari_stresstrakout: it's cd /etc i believe03:26
sethkthere's an echo in here   :)03:26
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wastrelMr_Grieves_:  that's a feature not a bug, apt assumes since you removed the config that you want the config to be absent03:26
ari_stressi guess :)03:26
taxmanjonathon: have you read up on how to enable the right repositories?03:27
EJ[ Cypher22] : try unplugging the mouse and only have the nic plugged in.03:27
wastrelapt treats config files special03:27
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mikeypizanohello03:27
Jack_Sparrow!ntfs-3g  > Percept03:27
Mr_Grieves_wastrel: anyway to get it back?03:27
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taxmanhi mikey03:27
trakoutit's still telling me that the dir doesn't exist... I typed "cd /ect", and cd /ect,03:27
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Mr_Grieves_<--gentoo user...not used to apt :)03:27
Junecyfor those of you who helped thank you03:27
Jack_SparrowPercept: If there is nothing on it and you dont have 4gig plus file sizes then you might want to consider fat3203:27
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jonathonUm, no I don't think so. I've been doing a lot of reading and I still haven't been able to figure things out. lol03:27
Cypher22my mouse does not power back on and now i can't do anything03:27
EJ[ Cypher22] : and lsusb should show the mouse listed03:27
PerceptJack_Sparrow : now you lost me ... is 3G the default fileformat in linux ?03:27
JunecyI believe that my wireless card is now working03:27
Cypher22lsusb still didn't work even when mouse is unplug03:28
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wastrelMr_Grieves_:  you could remove the package with --purge  and then reinstall03:28
KleRoiok i did Networkgamer03:28
KleRoierf03:28
Cypher22and 2wire is unplugged and still does not work03:28
wastrelMr_Grieves_:  i think there's a better way but i don't remember what it is.03:28
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Jack_SparrowPercept: No ntfs-3g is a tool for writing to ntfs drives... It is considered safe, but I still want to let others test it further03:28
EJ[ Cypher22] : dosent your laptop have a mousepad ?03:28
KleRoierm... Networkgamer?03:28
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Networkgameryeah03:28
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onexused!dialup03:28
ubot3You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto03:28
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Networkgamerkleroi:type sudo ifdown eth003:28
taxmanjonathon: no problem, I'll teach you how to fish :)  Look up how to enable the extra repositories (it's much easier if you don't use the terminal) then do sudo apt-cache search flash03:28
JunecyNetworkgamer: It was because my card was on the blacklist03:28
EJ[ Cypher22] : or is this a desktop system ?03:28
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Cypher22I am using a PC my laptop works fine with ubunti03:28
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KleRoiNetworkgamer:  i did that and it just closed my networks03:29
KleRoi:\03:29
Networkgamerok03:29
Networkgamernow do sudo ifup eth003:29
s0loevening03:29
Cypher22ubuntu is mess up on me now :(03:29
Jack_SparrowPercept: I dual boot, but I do not let either OS write to the working partition of the other os03:29
trakoutnetworkgamer: I tried 'cd /ect', and 'cd/ect,'.. both gave me a "no directory error"? this's never happened before..03:29
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KleRoiNetworkgamer: well thats what i did just now because i went offline with the ifdown command line03:29
EJ[ Cypher22] : do you have a ps2 mouse ?03:29
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Networkgamertrakout:do cd /etc03:29
Cypher22n03:29
Cypher22no03:29
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vmif i am on ubuntu, how do i install a kde session?03:29
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Networkgamervm:have you installed kde?03:29
EJ[ Cypher22] : what about a ps2 adaptor for the usb ?03:29
sethkvm, assuming kde is installed, you can choose the session type at the login screen03:30
PerceptJack_Sparrow : I'm not gonna install Ubuntu on a partition, it's just to see if I can get the files of fornow ... but seeing as the fileformats won't be the same I guess I'll have to install Ubuntu on a partition right ?03:30
SEpplsorry, what it the common path for the xorg.conf?03:30
taxmanjonathon: that will give you a list of installable packages that have flash. You need to pick the right one. Best bet is to read the docs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation   search for words like flash, and read the common questions document03:30
Cypher22Ej do you need any info about the hardware i am trying to install?03:30
sethkSEppl, /etc/X1103:30
SEpplthx03:30
Bogaurdwhen getting mail with fetchmail, is there a way to set some knd of header, or rewrite the subject so that the emails can easily be caught by procmail?03:30
allquixoticOMG, I hope Gutsy Gibbon includes a SVN version of PulseAudio (stabilized and tested of course) if Lennart doesn't get an official stable out in time. WOW. Latency is incredibly low in the lock-free core :D03:30
Jack_SparrowPercept: No you dont need to install ubuntu03:30
ZambeziWhich packages do I need in Feisty to get hosts.allow and hosts.deny?03:30
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s0lodoes anyone know where i can find the pidgin .debs + otr messaging plugin? thanks in advance03:30
vmi need to install kde as well03:30
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wastrelBogaurd:  i don't think so, that's not really fetchmail's role03:31
sethkBogaurd, it's possible, but there may be a simpler way to accomplish what you are doing.  So, exactly what are you doing, specifically?03:31
EJ[ Cypher22] : no not right now, we are dealing with a hardware conflict at this point, lsusb should show at least the mouse if not both mouse and nic, we need to find out if these 2 items are fighting with each other03:31
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Cypher22lsusb works but my 2wire usb is not turning on03:31
trakoutwhat's the command for deleting a file under root permissions?03:31
Perceptcan I get to this channel trough a java applet somwhere ? I got a laptop from a friend without Mirc so I could join again while my PC is booted in Ubuntu03:32
Cypher22and it detect my mouse03:32
vmi shall rephrase, "how do i install kde"03:32
EJ[ Cypher22] : i would be willing to be if you used a ps2 mouse and your nic it would work03:32
Jack_SparrowPercept: The only "Trick" if you want to call it that will be to enable NTFS write using ntfs-3g....03:32
taxmantrakout: sudo rm filename03:32
ari_stressvm: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:32
Bogaurdwastrel: hmm. I'm trying to download emails from a pop3 account and put them into a specific subfolder of my maildir. I would normally filter using procmail on the TO: address, but the email account in question is part of some mailing lists, so emails come in from multiple TO: addresses...03:32
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trakoutthanks taxman03:32
taxmannp03:32
wastrelBogaurd:  check for a delivered-to header03:32
PerceptJack_Sparrow seeing as i have NO linux experience that might idd be a trick :)03:32
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Bogaurdwastrel: I never knew such a thing... let me have a look now03:33
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trakouttaxman: how do you create a folder (a text file) under root permissions?03:33
Cypher22I connect the 2wire and my kernal says i got a msg form syslogd03:33
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Jack_SparrowPercept: Put your other drive in your system... boot the live cd and come here... it will amaze you as to how easy it is...03:33
Cypher22looks like hex03:33
jvaihey peeps03:33
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Mr_Grieves_wastrel: apt-get --purge remove apache2 && apt-get install apache2 && apache203:33
Mr_Grieves_still gives the error about not finding /etc/apache2/apache2.conf03:33
taxmantrakout: same thing, use sudo and the command for creating a folder :)03:33
sethktrakout, more than one way exists.  I would just create the file, then use chown03:33
sethktrakout, or what taxman said, or, etc.03:33
Bogaurdwastrel: I just checked. It doesn't match my email address unfortunatley :(03:34
PerceptJack_Sparrow I'll read the info you've send me about the driver and I'll see how far I'll get ... laters dudes and thanks !03:34
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DILZoneMinder anyone?03:34
Jack_SparrowPercept: YOu can also get a copy of Knoppix as I understand it has ntfs write support already setup in their live cd.03:34
shavexi want to boot into BackTrack 2... i have the GRUB bootloader... i have changed the menu.lst from Ubuntu which is on my first partition... i think i have it setup right but then all the sudden i try to boot to it and it says it cannot boot the partition03:34
Cypher22Message from syslogd@*******-Desktop at Thu Aug 9 and lots of hex like codes03:34
Cypher22what does that mean ej?03:34
sethkCypher22, paste it to the paste web site, so we can all look at it.03:35
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EJ[ Cypher22] : not sure, the mouse is plugged back in and this happens when you plug n the nic ?03:35
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Cypher22how? i do not have internet on my pc :P03:35
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rosensturmHow do I change the default alsa sound device?03:35
Cypher22My 2wire usb is messed up and i think its pointless trying to get it to work :(03:36
taxmanlater all03:36
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Cypher22its just going to keep on freezing my pc when i plug it in03:36
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sethkCypher22, copy it to a USB stick, or whatever, and put it on the machine you are using with IRC.  It has internet.03:36
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sethkCypher22, two wire?03:37
Cypher22its called 2wire03:37
Cypher222wire.com03:37
trakoutokay.. sorry what I was trying didn't work.. now I need to know how to open and change a text file under root permissions.. please??03:37
WindsofTimeHow would I go about installing a server service such as XAMPP?03:37
Cypher22the worst driver company03:37
EJ[ Cypher22] : i dont think its messed up per say, i think the mouse and nic dont like working together, i would try a ps2 mouse and the usb nic and see ifyour still having issues, ps2 mice are fairly easy to find03:37
sethktrakout, sudo is the most straightforward.03:37
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Cypher22I will just buy a linksys wireless :P03:37
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tbzok... so I installed the generic nvidia restricted drivers that came with ubuntu, I have an 8800GTS, I reboot, and x goes poof, will not load. Could I get some help now please?03:38
ToddEDMhey guys, heres a question... i want to know if it is possible to use the DVD drive from on my ubuntu laptop, from my windows XP PC.... i would like to burn some avi files and make DVDs03:38
sethkCypher22, I saw a very nice optical usb mouse for $8 US.03:38
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Mr_Grieves_apt-get --purge remove apache2 && apt-get install apache2 && apache2 still gives an error about not finding /etc/apache2/apache2.conf. Is there a way to regenerate it?03:38
geraldHey, how do I add more desktops to gnome?03:38
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Cypher22i al ready have a usb mouse >.>03:38
pawanany disk space utility03:38
trakoutsethk... yeah, thanks I've got that figured out... but like I said I'm really new.. I don't know what else to do other than sudo..03:38
WindsofTimegerald get xubuntu?03:38
EJ[ Cypher22] : that would work too, if you do buy a nic make it one that has linux drivers as well03:38
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Cypher22i will03:38
tofaffyI opened nano and I got this : Error reading /home/tofaffy/.nano_history: Permission denied03:38
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ToddEDMdoes anyone know if this is possible?03:38
Cypher22linksys is nice to linux ^_^03:38
Cypher222wire hates linux :O03:38
geraldMr_Grieves_, try to apt-get install --reinstall apache203:39
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EJ[ Cypher22] : Linksys router firmware is Linux03:39
Taeromok folks, I could use some ubuntu wisdom here...03:39
geraldtofaffy that means you need to remove your ~/.nano_history file because you don't have access to it03:39
Cypher22I contact there email why they do not use linux drivers and they never email me back03:39
Taeromfresh install of 6.10 (all I had access to), installed all the updates and rebooted03:39
Taeromnow update-manager dumps core when I try to run it03:39
trakoutwhat's the command for opening/changing text files03:39
Cypher22I will go ahead and get the hardware bye03:39
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EJCypher22: tc and keep us updated plz03:40
Mr_Grieves_gerald: That didn't do it :(03:40
ToddEDMdoes anyone know if it is possible to use the DVD drive from my laptop, on my windows desktop???03:40
sethkToddEDM, I've never seen it done.  Reading a drive is possible, but burning is complicated.  Hard enough getting it to work at all, let alone via the network.03:40
Taeromupdate-manager segfaults without any errors... I thought it was SCIM crashing it, so I disabled SCIM. same problem ;(03:40
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mneptokTaerom: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:40
ToddEDMthank you sethk03:40
seanjdamn, now I have no flash player..03:40
ToddEDMi will look around03:40
Taerommneptok: all righty, I'll give it a shot03:40
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sethkTaerom, change the config so that a core file is produced, then we can look at the core file with gdb and most likely see what's going on.03:40
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A258howTo submit an open source project to ubuntu's "download package manager" ?03:41
trakoutcan someone please tell me the command for manipulating a text file?? then saving it?03:41
mneptokA258: /join #ubuntu-motu03:41
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sethktrakout, lots of available editors.  gedit is very simple.  vim is great if you know vi03:41
Taerommneptok: apt-get upgrade segfaults03:41
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fdrnet03:41
mneptokTaerom: did the update work?03:41
A258mneptok : ok thanks03:42
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Taerommneptok: yes03:42
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trakoutsethk, I need a terminal based command.. remember, I'm working with sudo03:42
TaeromReading package lists... Done03:42
TaeromSegmentation fault (core dumped)03:42
pawanany defragmentation utility03:42
vmwhats the best desktop system,kde? gnome? others?03:42
Taeromvm: text mode ;)03:42
sethktrakout, first, you can use GUI programs with sudo.  vi is console.03:42
vmtaerom: notice i said desktop ;)03:42
Taeromvm: I know ;)03:42
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mayoHello03:42
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vmtaerom: u a sys admin or sumthin?03:43
ToddEDMok heres a simpler solution to my problem... what is the best way to make a good looking dvd( for a friend that doesnt even have a PC)03:43
sethktrakout, the awful program that is the default text editor on a new install is console.  I work hard at forgetting the name, but someone will jump in with it.03:43
Taeromvm: just a text mode geek03:43
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ToddEDMwhat program  is what im looking for03:43
vmtaerom: kk lol, seek help :P03:43
mayoI have a problem I'm tryin to install Devede in Ubuntu LInux 7.4  and when i do sudo ./install.sh and put my password it does nothing03:43
Taeromthat's why I'm here ;)03:43
ToddEDMif i dont reply, its cause i went to get another beer03:43
Taerommneptok: if you have any tips, could you pm them to me? ball 'n chain is dragging me to breakfast while I'm here trying to fix this ;P03:44
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bruenigmayo, it has to do something03:44
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sethkmayo, that's unlikely.  About the only thing it cannot do is nothing.03:44
trakoutsethk, I'm using gedit.. now, what do I do.. Iv'e opened the file and copied the code.. all I need is a sudo save.. how?03:44
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sethktrakout, no, you run the program with sudo in the first place, as in    sudo gedit03:44
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vmhas anyone here used wine-doors ?03:44
sethktrakout, then you _are_ root, and any file you create is owned by root.03:44
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trakoutohh.. thanks!!03:44
mneptokTaerom: sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:45
mayowell yeah it does nothing, noting apperars in the terminal that says reading packages or compiling or installing nothing. or errors03:45
reya276how can I make a link to this file libopenal.so03:45
bruenigmayo, devede is just python iirc, all that script likely does is move files around03:45
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reya276an app is crashing and it's telling me this03:45
reya276libopenal.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:45
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mayok03:46
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sethkmayo, if you don't see an error, not only did the script do something, it did that something successfully.03:46
mayoI try it to install devede from synaptic but when is installed, I clik on the devede icon app but it does not runn03:46
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tofaffyIs there a command that willl list all files in a directory?03:46
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Purcuptls03:46
bruenigmayo, you need to install all of its dependencies03:46
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Purcuptdq;ned cqn4t find the IRC server I zqs connected to ;in qgo03:47
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bobbob1016what program can I use to check the MD5 of a file?03:47
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Purcuptshit qwerty03:47
rosensturmMy ubuntu system is almost completely set up now but my xpad driver keeps crashing the system if anything tries to access it...03:47
bruenigbobbob1016, md5sum03:47
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Yonobobbob1016, md5sum03:47
bobbob1016bruenig, Yono, thanks, I thought it was built in, I didn't think to add sum to the end though03:48
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bruenigbobbob1016, tabtab03:48
sethkrosensturm, where did the driver come from?  Is it part of the ubuntu distro, or did you download it from somewhere else?03:48
rocketsDoes launchpad karma actually do anything?03:48
bruenigrockets, no03:48
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jribrockets: well you get offered more cd's from shipit03:49
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rocketsjrib, not that I need them, but really?03:49
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ToddEDMso  what do you guys use to burn avi files to DVD???03:49
bruenigToddEDM, growisofs03:49
jribrockets: yep03:49
rocketsToddEDM, devede03:49
coopsterToddEDM, K3B is my burner of choice03:49
ToddEDMack03:50
bruenigk3b uses growisofs03:50
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rocketsI like k3b but not for that03:50
ToddEDMok next question... which one is newb friendly03:50
brueniggrowisofs is pretty newb friendly, just read the docs03:50
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rosensturmsethk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318382&highlight=xbox+360+edgy03:50
ToddEDMcan you make menus and crap?03:50
bruenigoh you mean burn it as a movie03:50
sethkrosensturm, ok, let me read for a moment.03:50
kersinc#panas03:51
jetscreamerdvdauthor03:51
jetscreamerqdvdauthor03:51
wastrelpeople like cheese03:51
bruenigToddEDM, dvdstyler is decent03:51
jetscreamerdeveedee03:51
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ToddEDMi downloaded dvdstyler, but didnt work03:51
vmwhat are good desktop environments besides gnome and kde?03:51
bruenigToddEDM, you need to install its dependency03:51
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jetscreamerdvdstyler .. there's even s sources.list entry for latest dvdstyler03:51
bruenigvm, xfce03:51
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buizeis there p2p software for ubuntu like limewire,soulseek,etc?03:51
bruenigvm, that is about the only other DE, the rest are wm03:51
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aaronif anyone knows iptables, please view my thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52186803:51
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buizei need to 'buy' some mp3s03:51
bruenigbuize, use bittorrent03:52
sethkI was thinking the driver might be mismatched to the kernel, but if you downloaded source and built it, then that is not the problem.03:52
wastrellimewire has a linux version03:52
buizebruenig: bittorrent is good for cds but i need a few single tracks03:52
rosensturmsethk, If I cat /dev/input/js0 or run jstest I can see data coming from joystick but if I run jscalibration or sdlmame it seems the whole system locks up.03:52
KleRoihello, can anyone tell me why my browser seems to go so slow in ubuntu? and also it just doesnt go in some websites like google or stuff...03:52
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buizethx wastrel ill look for that03:52
Mr_Grieves_does anyone know how to make apt install a package with all of its config files?03:52
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aaronMr_Grieves_, huh?03:53
bruenigMr_Grieves_, it already does that03:53
ToddEDMok i have qDVDauthor installed i guess, so maybe i should go try it03:53
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sethkrosensturm, try running jscal... under strace03:53
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Mr_Grieves_aaron, bruenig: I was having trouble with apache, so I removed the package, deleted /etc/apache*, and reinstalled the package. The problem is, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf wasn't regenerated. Any ideas?03:54
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jetscreamerMr_Grieves_: try --purge next time03:54
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bruenigMr_Grieves_, you should not have deleted /etc/apache*,  you should have purged the package03:54
KleRoi hello, can anyone tell me why my browser seems to go so slow in ubuntu? and also it just doesnt go in some websites like google or stuff...03:54
aaronThat's a good question. perhaps you should purge?03:54
aarondo you have the urge to purge!03:54
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Mr_Grieves_I have tried purge - apt-get --purge remove apache2 , right?03:55
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rosensturmsethk, How? Won't the system still just lock up?03:55
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rocketsWhat would be awesome is a way to --purge packages without having to reinstall them first.03:55
sethkrosensturm, yes, but you'll see the system call that occurs and causes the lockup, which may be a clue.03:55
rockets(if you already removed them that is)03:55
AlgorthmicContropurgees03:55
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AlgorthmicControPURGESS03:55
bruenigrockets, you can03:56
winndixieGAY.03:56
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Mr_Grieves_bruenig: I'm all ears :)03:56
bruenigjust run the command03:56
kidbuntuhow do you trace a .java file with eclipse. I mean the program is already complete. but i want to trace .java file that someone already build03:56
rocketsbruenig, how, aside from looking at the file locations and manually removing them03:56
rosensturmsethk, Ok, brb03:56
bruenigmanually removing them won't work03:56
reya276how can I make this error (libopenal.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) go away03:56
winndixieinstall the library then run ldconfig03:56
Mr_Grieves_is my syntax correct?03:57
Mr_Grieves_apt-get --purge remove apache203:57
KleRoidoes anyone knows why my browser seems to go so slow in ubuntu? and also it just doesnt go in some websites like google or stuff...03:57
bruenigreya276, get that file03:57
jetscreamerMr_Grieves_: ADD SUDO03:57
bruenig!repeat | KleRoi03:57
ubot3KleRoi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience03:57
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jetscreamererr oops03:57
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Mr_Grieves_jetscreamer: I'm root03:57
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vmif u use xgl, when i install kde, what will happen?03:57
SpectralDesignI'm looking for laptop CPU advice re: ubuntu.  I feel that a "aheap" centrino and 512MB ram (under Ubuntu) would generally outperform a top-of-the-line CoreDuo with 1+GB ram (under windoze), but can anyone validate that assumption fgor me?03:58
sethkvm, your computer will melt.03:58
SpectralDesignerr "cheap" centrino03:58
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kidbuntuhow do you trace a .java file with eclipse. I mean the program is already complete. but i want to trace .java file that someone already build03:58
AlgorthmicControUbuntu arbitrarily stopped mounting my two other internal hard drives, I previously simply mounted them with an NTFS-config program, I haven't even access these drives in the span of when this problem occurred, I checked fstab and it looked fine.Could Anyone help?03:58
vmsethk: what?03:58
winndixiei want very much put my anus in a women's penis03:58
bruenigSpectralDesign, I don't think so03:58
sethkvm, I wasn't being serious.03:58
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vmsethk: this i know, was expecting you to rectify the stupid comment with useful information03:59
SpectralDesignbruenig - I know my wifes laptop is windozeXP/centrino and it's a dog compared to my 4 year old desktop pentium with Ubuntu...03:59
rocketsNone of my apps will go fullscreen. Whenever I try to make vlc or totem or whatever go fullscreen, it appears in a window that extends only to the edge of my panel. and it has window borders and everything03:59
rocketsAny idea why that might be?03:59
bruenigSpectralDesign, she may be all virused up03:59
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sethkvm, that's a good way to convince someone to help you.04:00
BlueBirdrockets: stanard behaviour by the windows manager04:00
winndixierockets: do you have XVideo extension in your xorg.conf04:00
Ominoushow can i get a 5 button mouse working?04:00
Purcupt_How do I get on calvinofreenodenet ?04:00
bruenigSpectralDesign, ubuntu is not really the fastest of distros anyways, maybe if you went for a lighter one, they would be fairly close, it all depends really what you want04:00
BlueBirdrockets: setthe panel to auto-hide to avoid it04:00
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rocketswinndixie, Should it be enabled or disabled?04:00
SpectralDesignbruenig -- well, it's a gateway, so it's definately all saomethinged-up, but I set her up with Avast! and antispyware utils04:00
rocketsBlueBird, no, it never did that before.04:00
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rocketsBlueBird, it used to be fine. never was on autohide04:00
BlueBirdhmmm04:00
vmsethk: didnt exactly give me a good answer did u04:00
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Purcupt_How do I get on calvino.freenode.net04:00
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rocketswinndixie, Should I turn Xvideo on or off?04:00
bruenigPurcupt_, /server that04:00
Purcupt_ok thx04:00
winndixierockets: it should be loaded04:00
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rocketswinndixie, ill check04:01
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rocketswinndixie, its not loaded04:01
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ToddEDMsweet, im downloading templates for qdvdauthor04:01
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rocketswinndixie, under modules just put Load "Xvideo" ?04:01
winndixierockets: you could also try changing the output device for vlc04:01
EJ!sshd04:01
ubot3Factoid sshd not found04:01
EJ!ssh04:01
ubot3SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/04:01
PenguinsaremyfriIs there ANY way to skin gaim/pidgin?04:02
rocketsbrb04:02
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SpectralDesignbruenig -- well, here's the deal... I want something for college... open-office, wireless, firefox, evolution, mind-mapping or other visualization type things... nothing major, but I don't want to wait days when switching from one open app to an other....  with my 4-year old desktop it runs Very smoothly under ubuntu04:02
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Purcupt_jack_sparrow ?04:02
drateAnybody think they can help me figure out why my ndiswrapper/wpa_supplicant combo with a wmp54gs Linksys works in Puppy 16.1, worked in Ubuntu Edgy, but refuses to work in Ubuntu Feisty?04:03
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Networkgamerwell i g2g04:03
Networkgamercya04:03
bruenigSpectralDesign, I personally, assuming I were on a budget would get a really cheap laptop and put zenwalk or arch on it and load it down with fluxbox or something04:03
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rosensturmsethk, Ok, i'm back.04:03
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Seqdoes anybody know how to get a bluetooth mouse to autoconnect when you turn the mouse on?04:03
sethkrosensturm, what's the last line?04:03
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drateI'd almost be willin to pay money for a good, operable answer.04:03
bruenigSpectralDesign, the laptop you were talking about would be fine, I just don't think it would be equal to the one you compared it to04:04
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SpectralDesignbuenig -- thanks, I'll have to investigate that (I have no idea what it is, lol... but thanks! I'll go Google it all right now!04:04
Purcupt_Anyone know if there was a jack_sparrow inhere minutes ago ?04:04
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Purcupt_15 minutes04:04
rosensturmsethk, Well the first time I tried it the thing actually worked fine. I could move the joysticks and see them move on the program.04:04
Mr_Grieves_I'm still not having any luck. I've reinstall, purged, removed, installed apache2 & deps a couple hundred times... is there a way to just edit the database to trick apt into thinking that apache2 has never been installed so that it will pull in all config files as if it were the first install?04:04
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TaeromPurcupt_: try /whowas jack_sparrow04:04
Taerommight help ya04:04
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Purcupt_thx04:05
rosensturmsethk, Then I tried it again and it happened, but I notice that the system doesn't actually freeze. I just seem to lose all input.04:05
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Taeromonce again, thanks mneptok ;D04:05
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sethkrosensturm, that makes more sense, since we are talking about an input driver.04:05
SpectralDesignbruenig -- thanks, I'll have to investigate that (I have no idea what it is, lol... but thanks! I'll go Google it all right now!04:05
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drateI'm guessing that's a no...04:06
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reya276any idea where I can install libopenal.so04:06
Purcupt_I need to get files from a NTFS disk and put thzm on another NTFS disk but someoine told me I eeded a NTFS-3G driver for that04:06
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Purcupt_anyone able to help me how to get that driver ?04:06
winndixiereya276: /usr/lib ?04:06
drateYes Percupt...04:06
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reya276no I keep getting this error04:07
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dratePercupt_ It should be pretty easily available in the repositiores.04:07
reya276libopenal.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:07
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rocketswinndixie, its still not working. loaded xvideo and set vlc to use it04:07
dratePurcupt_ It should be available int hte repositories.04:07
Purcupt_drate it's my first time on linux so where can I find the repositoreis ? :)04:07
KleRoihello, i have some problems installing the flash plugin for mozilla firefox... i try to install the flashplugin-nonfree but after i do an error occurs, and a long list of errors pops up, telling me that there are "problems with the dependences" or something, don't know the exact translation... and that there is an error code of 58. anyone can help?04:07
drateOhhhhh......04:07
Purcupt_I'm no PC noob though ;)04:07
drateYou are using Ubuntu I assume... what version?04:07
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rosensturmsethk, On thing I noticed in strace was that read was always returning -1 and said the resource was temporary unavailable, or something like that.04:07
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Purcupt_just downloaded the lastest version, I'm running from bootable disk04:08
winndixierockets: are you running beryl or something lame like that?04:08
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drateYou mean Feisty?04:08
yurimxpxmanhow can I setup postfix to use smtp.gmail.com ?04:08
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drateFeisty is not my favoite. can't get it to do what I need it to.04:08
drateBut anyway..04:08
rocketswinndixie, nope. im using fglrx but no beryl or xgl. and it always worked before04:08
rocketswait a minute.04:08
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drateLet's see, as I c an't use my ubuntu right now.... okay, goto um....04:08
rocketslet me double check that. i do have an xgl session but i thought i wasnt using it. maybe i am04:08
Purcupt_drate: im checking which one I got04:09
drateOh, the menu on the top of the screen04:09
dratethere are three option, applications, places, and something else04:09
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drategoto the something else04:09
sethkrosensturm, sounds like there may be a deadlock issue.  Troubleshooting a driver problem is somewhat involved, and that's what's needed here.  I assume you searched for other people talking about the problem on the net?04:09
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yurimxpxmandrate: System ;)04:09
Purcupt_ok thats 'system'04:09
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drateThank you04:09
drateBrain fart.04:09
Purcupt_hehe04:09
drateThen you want Administration under that04:09
thoreauputicreya276: try  libopenal-dev04:09
dratethen look for synaptic package manager.04:09
thoreauputicreya276: it's in that package according to apt-file04:10
FireHazard17can anyone verify the xbox360 wired  heard set working in ubuntu04:10
macdis there a arg I can throw update-manage at cli to upgrade release?04:10
Purcupt_got it04:10
KleRoimmm i'll try asking again,  have some problems installing the flash plugin for mozilla firefox... i try to install the flashplugin-nonfree but after i do an error occurs, and a long list of errors pops up, telling me that there are "problems with the dependences" or something, don't know the exact translation... and that there is an error code of 58. anyone can help?04:10
Ashfire908FireHazard17, huh?04:10
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drateOh, btw, possibly a quicker way to do this is open up a prompt and give a "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"  not sure though.04:10
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drateBut continueing gui style....04:10
ZeroToleranceCan someone help me, I connected USB logitech headset, it detects it but no sound comes out.04:10
yurimxpxmanhow can I setup postfix to use smtp.gmail.com ?04:10
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drateOpen up synaptic, and do a search for ntfs-3g or whatever it's called.04:10
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FireHazard17can anyone *verify* the xbox360 wired head set working in ubuntu*04:11
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FireHazard17better?04:11
Alexishola04:11
rosensturmsethk, Yes but I haven't found much.04:11
Alexis!04:11
rocketswinndixie,  I don't get it. Fullscreen always worked before. I'm not using Xgl now for sure.04:11
Alexiscomo estan???04:11
sethkyurimxpxman, I'm not sure what you mean.  Generally, you would use postfix _or_ some other mail server.04:11
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Alexispork hablan ingles04:11
drateDoes it give you any responses?04:11
cccvvvpppWOW04:11
winndixierockets: try rm ~/.vlc04:11
thoreauputic!es04:11
ubot3Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:11
cccvvvpppWoW works great in winedoors04:11
cccvvvpppon unbuntu04:11
cccvvvpppno lag at all, wtf04:11
yurimxpxmansethk: how would I send a message from fetchmail via smtp.gmail.com ?04:11
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sethkAlexis, there is an IRC channel in spanish.04:11
EJis there a way to reconfig the network like i did during initial install thru terminal window ?04:11
cccvvvpppQuad core, fastest mhz04:11
cccvvvppp4gig ram04:12
wastrelyurimxpxman:  relayhost = your.smtp.relayhost04:12
dratePurcupt_?04:12
cccvvvppp8800gtx04:12
Purcupt_drate I get results but nothing with 3g04:12
rocketswinndixie, yes but this happens in totem too04:12
sethkyurimxpxman, fetchmail is for incoming mail, not outgoing mail.04:12
dratehmm...04:12
limefan913Can anyone give me a hand with my boot loader problem? Its on the drive, but it didnt write to the MBR so it still boots into Windows instead of GRUB.04:12
Ashfire908FireHazard17, might have a hard time pluging it in.04:12
mneptok!enter | cccvvvppp04:12
ubot3cccvvvppp: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:12
KleRoi/J #ubuntu-it04:12
winndixierockets: what changes did you make, if any, before this problem occured?04:12
FireHazard17Ashfire908: no problem with that04:12
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rocketswinndixie, none that i know of!04:12
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yurimxpxmansethk: I'm using the mda option to forward it to another address (or at least trying to )04:12
wastrelyurimxpxman:  assuming gmail allows you to relay04:12
FireHazard17Alexis: no habla esnaol en #ubuntu04:12
drateokay.... somewhere under administration I think,,, possibly preferences, bu tithink administration, find "sources"04:12
EJi cant remote into my u box or access the default web page, and i think its how the network got setup04:12
Alexis#Chat04:12
iratikwhen i do chown -R someuser:somegroup * ...  it leaves out entries that start with "." err.. that are visible by ls -ahl and not by ls -l ... how do i make chown/chmod apply to all files in a tree regardless if they have a dot in front or not?04:12
Ashfire908FireHazard17, how in the world did you plug it in?04:12
drateyou might wanna close synaptic for the moment.04:12
FireHazard17though a 360 controller04:12
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Purcupt_ok sec04:13
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yurimxpxmanwastrel: where do I put that option?04:13
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Ashfire908FireHazard17, and then you pluged the controller into the computer?04:13
sethkI do that with maildrop (which is a procmail alternative), which is straightforward.  I don't know how to do it with fetchmail, or even if it's possible.04:13
FireHazard17yes04:13
FireHazard17controller works04:13
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FireHazard17but i dont recall if the mic did04:13
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Purcupt_sources or services ?04:13
Ashfire908FireHazard17, i doubt ubuntu will work with the 360 controller, let alone the mic04:14
dratesources04:14
wastrelyurimxpxman:  if you don't know that, then you don't know how to configure postfix & you're just going to break it04:14
FireHazard17Ashfire908: controller works fine!04:14
WindsofTime*help*: It seems that Linux does not recognize the Media controls on my keyboard (Play,Stop,Next,Volume...ect)04:14
EJis there a way to reconfig the network like i did during initial install thru terminal window ? i cant remote into my u box or access the default web page, and i think its how the network got setup.04:14
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Purcupt_hmm ... how can I change mlanguage cause I'm not working in english here04:14
WindsofTimeHow can this be changed?04:14
wastrelyurimxpxman:  /etc/postfix/main.cf   is where relayhost goes.04:14
drateOh...04:14
yurimxpxmanwastrel: I didn't know  you were referring to postfix.04:14
drateUh....04:14
yurimxpxmanwastrel: thanks04:14
FireHazard17go to the forum there is a driver just for ubuntu04:14
drateidk04:14
sasgjcm04:14
techjimhey I have two hard drives.  Could I dual-boot windows on one and ubuntu on the other?04:14
drateOkay.. there is another way... you said you are not a PC noob right?04:14
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drateHow do you feel about command line?04:15
wastrelyurimxpxman:  but that means all your mail is going to go to smtp.google.com , which will probably reject it04:15
nikrontechjim: yes04:15
nikrudWindsofTime, system-prefs-keyboard shortcuts04:15
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WindsofTimety04:15
Purcupt_commandline is fine for me04:15
Ashfire908FireHazard17, did you get it to do anything on the computer? or did the light only come on?04:15
WindsofTimenikrud: There is not preferences in Xubuntu04:15
Ashfire908FireHazard17, huh. intersting04:15
FireHazard17Ashfire908: it works! ok?04:15
drateOpen up the prompt and do a "locate sources.list"04:15
EJ!network04:15
techjimnikron: I was sure one could with partitions.  Great.  Would you happen to know anything about fakeraid- particularly promise fasttrak RAIDs?04:15
ubot3Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:15
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sethktechjim, sure.  windows has problems if it isn't booting from primary master.  linux can boot from any disk.04:15
nikrudWindsofTime, ah, xfce. No clue04:15
drateIf you get a bunch of permission denied BS, put "sudo" at the beginning of the comand.04:16
WindsofTimefound it04:16
FireHazard17Ashfire908: just asking if *anyone* can verify the headset working04:16
Purcupt_looking fo preompt :)04:16
Ashfire908FireHazard17, OK! i didn't see your line on that there was a driver. i have no clue if the mic will work. why don't you try?04:16
rocketswinndixie, hey totem works now that i set it back to totem-gstreamer instead of totem-xine.04:16
rocketsbut i changed that a LONG time ago04:16
drateOh.. sorry, applications>... accessories maybe?04:16
rocketsand it was fine04:16
FireHazard17ok fine i will04:16
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EJis there a way to reconfig the network like i did during initial install thru terminal window ? i cant remote into my u box or access the default web page, and i think its how the network got setup.04:16
Ashfire908FireHazard17, i'll get my controller04:16
dratePossibly Applications>system tools... it's under there somewhere.04:16
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FireHazard17Ashfire908:  want me to link to the file?04:16
drateI'd right click it when you find it and hit "add to launch panel"04:16
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techjimsethk: ok great.  I've had a hell of a time w/ the bastard pseudo-raid controller.  BIOS should now set it as ATA not RAID controller04:17
rocketswinndixie, but vlc doesnt work still04:17
Purcupt_got the terminal04:17
drateOh good.04:17
wastrelEJ:  did you set up a firewall?04:17
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drateLike I said, "locate sources.list" or else "sudo locate sources.list"04:17
wastrelsudo isn't necessary for locate04:17
winndixierockets: try deleting the ~/.vlc04:17
rocketswinndixie, did that04:17
winndixieweird04:17
EJ[ wastrel] : i havent done anything in setting up a firewall, unless Ubuntu 7.04 server sets it up by default on install04:18
drateI couldn't remember if it had given me trouble before or not wastrel04:18
Purcupt_locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old04:18
Purcupt_/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list04:18
Purcupt_/usr/share/man/fr/man5/sources.list.5.gz04:18
Purcupt_/usr/share/man/es/man5/sources.list.5.gz04:18
Purcupt_/usr/share/man/man5/sources.list.5.gz04:18
Purcupt_/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/sources.list_extrarepositories04:18
Purcupt_/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/sources.list_upgradehoarytobreezy04:18
dratelike I said, I can't use my Ubuntu right now.04:18
Purcupt_/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/sources.list04:18
wastrelEJ:  can you ping the machine?04:18
drateThat's it?04:18
EJ[ wastrel] : i cannot even access the server via samba and i just installed that.04:18
thoreauputicPurcupt_: don't paste in the channel please04:18
wastrelPurcupt_:  sudo updatedb    also don't paste04:18
Purcupt_yup04:18
Purcupt_without the sudo04:18
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EJ[ wastrel] : 1 sec and i'll try04:18
Ashfire908FireHazard17, yes, send the link04:18
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drateHm...04:18
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drateyou didn't get any permission deneid messages/?04:19
FireHazard17Ashfire908: in a couple minutes04:19
EJ[ wastrel] : ping timeout04:19
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Purcupt_nope04:19
dratethere should have been like, /etc/sources.list or something to that effect.04:19
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Ashfire908oh04:19
drateWell that's just frustrating.04:19
wastrelit's /etc/apt/sources.list04:19
Purcupt_but I'm running on bootable disk .. does that have anything to do with it ?04:19
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drateThank you.04:19
thoreauputicsources.list is in /etc/apt04:19
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sutabiAnyone know how to get my laptop to reconize my lan port again? for some reason it just stopped reconizing it04:19
drateOh... right...04:19
Ashfire908FireHazard17, um.... i forgot. i don't have a sound card04:19
wastreland if the locatedb is old you can refresh it with sudo updatedb04:19
SitheIs there a linux port for Gunbound?04:19
mneptok!pastebin | Purcupt_04:19
ubot3Purcupt_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:19
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drateCheck where they are saying... do "ls /etc/apt/sources.list" and see if it echo's what you said.04:20
Purcupt_ok sorry for not using pastebin04:20
WindsofTime*HELP* It seems that in Xubuntu on the keyboard settings, my specific keyboard (Dell Multimedia) only the Mute button works..but it only mutes and doesn't Unmute..I need help getting all the Media Controls to work properly..Help anyone?04:20
Sithedrate: thanks04:20
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drateSithe? yes?04:20
Ashfire908FireHazard17, i could try to insall one, but i'm not srtond enoguh to lift the server i use for a computer.04:20
rocketswinndixie, I got it.04:21
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thoreauputic!laptop04:21
ubot3Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org04:21
Sithedrate: you helped me and I said thanks...04:21
Purcupt_drate ... goes to next line without any feedback in the terminal04:21
rocketswinndixie, Default option was to let the windowmanager handle fullscreening. Disabled that and let vlc handle it. works fine now04:21
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winndixiecoolio :)04:21
drateOh, how did I help you Sithe... I'm a bit confused.04:21
drateUmkay.... well, possibly you're right then, the Live Session might be affectin things.04:21
Purcupt_it found the file04:22
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Sithedrate: Oh nevermind I guess you didn't. But, do you know if there is a Gunbound port for Linux?04:22
FireHazard17Ashfire908: you dont need a soundcard to use the headset04:22
drateOh, It did find the file?04:22
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drateI do not know Sithe.04:22
drateSorry.04:22
Purcupt_yup04:22
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FireHazard17Ashfire908: on windows at least04:22
Ashfire908FireHazard17, yes i do. and i'm on ubuntu04:22
Sithedrate: Do you know where I can find a list of ported games?04:22
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loa_dudeyo.  can anyone recommend a good domain name hoster that allows CNAMEs in the zone?04:22
drateoh, Sithe, check wikipedia.04:22
thoreauputic!games04:23
ubot3Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org04:23
drateI found a great list of free and open source games on that04:23
Sithedrate: alright thanks04:23
drateand Purcupt_ okay...04:23
FireHazard17Ashfire908: it is its own sound card it functions as a usb sound card when it works04:23
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Ashfire908!offtopic | loa_dude,04:23
ubot3loa_dude,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:23
dratedo "vi /whatever/the/path/name/is/sources.list04:23
SitheIf not ill just install it with Cedega04:23
drate"04:23
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Ashfire908FireHazard17, fine. what's the link?04:23
WindsofTime*HELP* It seems that in Xubuntu on the keyboard settings, my specific keyboard (Dell Multimedia) only the Mute button works..but it only mutes and doesn't Unmute..I need help getting all the Media Controls to work properly..Help anyone?04:23
thoreauputicdrate: if he's new, i wouldn't recommend vi - try nano instead04:23
drateactually we're both wrong04:24
Purcupt_ok openend the file in vi04:24
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drateI should have said.. gedit04:24
wastreli used vi when i was new :p04:24
dratebut whatever04:24
EJ[ wastrel] : i got it, for some reason eth0 and wlan0 had the same ip address, i disabled the eth0 interface and its working, is there a way to fix this so it dosent happen again on reboot ?04:24
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drateOkay... first thing hit the letter "i" before I forget to tel you that"04:24
CydeSwypehey gang04:24
Ashfire908!repeat | windsoftime04:24
ubot3windsoftime: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience04:24
PenguinsaremyfriIs there a way to save your entire linux system to a live cd?04:24
Purcupt_used vi once before to config a server but that's been  a long time04:24
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FireHazard17Ashfire908: if you just want the controller it'll work if you want the headset i can almost guarantee it wont04:24
drate"i" goes to insert mode"04:24
WindsofTime-.-04:24
wastrelEJ:  i've given up trying to understand how networking works anymore with network-manager.04:24
nikronErr, I just noticed in my sever that there's /etc/rc0.d/ /etc/rc1.d/  Can I assume that's upstart?04:25
EJI'm aughing ut oud04:25
Purcupt_yup in edit mode04:25
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quanquan?04:25
Ashfire908FireHazard17, just give me the link04:25
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CydeSwypeis there a specific channel for gutsy discussion?04:25
dratethen look around the text file (up and down arrows) and find where it talkes about "universe" and ... oh crud, whats the other...04:25
EJ[ wastrel] : well i plan on running this as a dedicated server so i shouldent have to reboot often04:25
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dratemultiversw04:25
Purcupt_shit I scrolled04:25
dratemultiverse04:25
wastrelCydeSwype:  #ubuntu+104:25
nikrudnikron, no, /etc/event.d is upstart04:25
CydeSwypesweet.  thanks04:25
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drateyou scrolled?04:25
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nikronWhat are /etc/rc0.d/ and stuff then?04:26
Purcupt_yeah and got all lines with A04:26
drate???04:26
FireHazard17Ashfire908: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=30500&d=117728976604:26
nikrudnikron, the sysvinit system; upstart calls those04:26
drateI'm not sure I follow... is your mistake recoverable?04:26
Purcupt_how do I quit vi without saving ?04:26
Purcupt_!q ?04:26
drateoh04:26
ubot3Factoid q ? not found04:26
sethknikron, start scripts for the various run levels.04:26
drateum04:26
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sethkPurcupt_, :q!04:26
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nikronAhh okay, thanks04:26
quanquanNickPresta04:26
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Purcupt_ok got the file back in its original form04:26
Purcupt_in vi04:26
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drateOh, ther eyou go then04:27
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drateokay, move up and down wwith the arrow keys04:27
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krammer_Hello04:27
dratefind the multiverse, and universe sections04:27
kefka!wubi04:27
ubot3Factoid wubi not found04:27
tweakismso, my audio was sounding corrupt.  I restarted, and now apparently the driver isn't loaded..  lshw -C multimedia shows my CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller as UNCLAIMED.  I haven't changed anything afaik.  where do I start?  is there a module I should try to modprobe?04:27
Eric79quit04:27
Purcupt_euhm thats giving me A B C D04:27
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dratereally?04:27
dratewell screw vi then04:27
quanquanubot3??04:27
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tweakismhaha04:27
quanquanwubi?04:27
krammer_HOw do i know if i have 3d ?04:27
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drateget out of that, and do gedit whatever/sources.list04:27
kefkaDo you recommend the use of wubi? it's an ubuntu installer04:28
Purcupt_I got a belgian keyboard and language settings04:28
drateYou'll like that much better.04:28
tweakismPurcupt_: when your term is fucked up, you can use h j k and l to navigate in vim04:28
WindsofTimeAshfire908: Neither site offers tips or help on my current issue =\04:28
nikrudkrammer, glxinfo | grep direct04:28
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quanquansogou is the best04:28
michaelanyone working with kbuntu and wpa?04:28
quanquan:)04:28
drateare ya gedit yet?04:28
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krammer_direct renderering yes04:29
michaelfor some reason wpa is not wanting to work with knetwork manager04:29
nikronWhen I'm in a tab completion shell if I tab after a _, I get commands like _gzip _dpkg, but when I do which _gzip, it returns nothing.04:29
krammer_HOw can i use 3d beside for games?04:29
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Purcupt_yup in gedit04:29
Purcupt_forgot a slash first04:29
dratemichael, cold be your card... what card are you using?04:29
drateoh04:29
dratesorry04:29
Ashfire908WindofTime, system -> adminsitration -> restrested drivers manager04:29
nikronI have no clue how they got there, anyone have an idea?04:29
dratebut ou got the file up now?04:29
Purcupt_yup04:29
michaeldraconius, Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE04:29
drateohkay, can you find the secions I'm talking about?04:30
FireHazard17drate: his card is cold?04:30
dratemultiverse and universe?04:30
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dratecould.. sorry04:30
Purcupt_it's a small file rightg04:30
dratecould, not cold04:30
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Ashfire908WindsofTime, you most likey need to get a driver. do to where i said to04:30
jerkface03Is ncurses automatically supplied with the default unbuntu 6.06 server installation?04:30
WindsofTimeAshfire908, my hardware doesn't need any restricted drivers04:30
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dratepends on what you mean by small i spose04:30
WindsofTimeas it says04:30
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nikrud!compiz > krammer (see the pm)04:31
Purcupt_16 lines of which 8 are commented out04:31
Ashfire908WndsofTime, try looking around on dell. otherwise you are out of luck04:31
drateshould have a bunch of commented "# text and such" lines04:31
WindsofTime=\04:31
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drateokay, are any of those 8 saying anythin about universe or multiverse?04:31
Purcupt_## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security04:31
Purcupt_## team.04:31
nikrudjerkface03, yes04:31
Ashfire908FireHazard17, what post did you get the from04:31
FireHazard17one sec04:32
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krammerhi04:32
drateokay, well, somewhere around there it should have a funny looking line with like... a web adress or something.04:32
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drateand univierse as part of the address04:32
Purcupt_# deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe ?04:32
mneptokWindsofTime: Xubuntu's keyboard handling is .... not robust.04:32
drateyeah....04:32
dratethat's the one04:32
Purcupt_open in firefox ?04:32
mneptokWindsofTime: you might have more luck in #xubuntu04:32
drateuncomment that and anything that looks like it04:32
jerkface03nikrud: you sure? i can't find any references to it in /usr/include04:32
drateon, just uncomment those lines04:33
nikrudjerkface03, unless you're compiling, then you'll need libncurses5-dev04:33
Purcupt_ok done04:33
Purcupt_thats 2 lines uncommented04:33
drateyou know, remove the "3"04:33
jerkface03there we go04:33
drate"#"04:33
jerkface03thank you :)04:33
FireHazard17Ashfire908: http://tinyurl.com/2qqdmd04:33
drateohkay... now after you've uncommented those kind of lines, save and exit04:33
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dratethen try that synaptic search again04:33
drateor else04:33
Purcupt_hmmm the save buttonsd remains disabled04:34
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nikrudjerkface03, for compiling, do aptitude search lib+<baselibname> , and look at the -dev files. Finds the right one 90%+ of the time04:34
drateyou gotta be kiddin me.04:34
drateokay04:34
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drategrre04:34
Purcupt_I wish I was ... :)04:34
dratewell, you can exit gedit04:34
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nikruddrate, you need gksudo gedit04:34
dratetry "sudo gedit /pathname/filename"04:34
Purcupt_ah wait04:34
Purcupt_I can save as04:34
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nikruddrate, not a good idea to use sudo with gui programs, there're some permission issues04:35
Purcupt_You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again04:35
dratereally?04:35
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Flannelgksu gedit nt sudo gedit04:35
drateNever gave me a problem.04:35
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aaronorosenHey04:35
dratewell do what these dudes are saing then04:35
thoreauputicPurcupt_:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:35
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dratethat one04:35
Purcupt_ok sec04:35
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Paddy_EIREwhat is the 'DRM' folder in '/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16/drivers/char'04:36
Purcupt_ok done and saved04:36
sethknikron, use ssh with X11 forwarding to create a root shell that can display on the X window.04:36
cablesDamn, I'm scared... I'm installing Ubuntu on my grandmother's computer, and weird stuff is happening in the install process...04:36
aaronorosenI am having problem getting my sound working on my laptop i tried searching google but did not find anthing i dont think that there is anytthing wrong with my alsamixer settings04:36
drateah, you did uncomment that stuff again before saving i assume04:36
sethknikron, you ssh to your own machine as user root.04:36
Purcupt_yups04:36
drateok, you guys that are listening in here04:36
thoreauputicPurcupt_: don't forget to run   sudo apt-get update  after saving the edited lidt04:36
thoreauputic*list04:36
drateis it apt-get update to update04:36
drateyes04:36
drateevidently it is04:37
nikronsethk: You got the wrong person04:37
cablesTwice I've gotten "The partition can't be mounted" or something like that, and then Nautilus opens with the Windows drive showing... but the install does seem to be going normally.04:37
dratelike he said, sudo apt-get update04:37
sethknikron, sorry, tab completion  :)04:37
dratethat'll update what files are available to you.04:37
nikronsethk: it happens =P04:37
thoreauputicdrate: if you aren't sure, better not to "help" :)04:37
Purcupt_ok running it now04:37
Dante123how do you run nautilus so you have root access....what is the command?04:37
drateif he doesn't like my help he can certainly switch over to you04:37
Purcupt_package list read ... finished04:37
drateim just a bit rusty is all04:37
aaronorosenI am having problem getting my sound working on my laptop i tried searching google but did not find anthing i dont think that there is anytthing wrong with my alsamixer settings. Any ideas?04:38
Paddy_EIREDante123: gksudo nautilus04:38
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thoreauputicdrate: it wasn't intended that way :)04:38
Purcupt_drate ... you are fantastic man !04:38
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Dante123thanks...04:38
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drateall right, anyhoo.. like I said, if you're siure of the package name.. I.e. ntfs-3g or whatever it might be04:38
Purcupt_and thanks thoreaputic too04:38
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drateyou can try "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"04:38
Pie-ratecan gparted resize an ext3 partition?04:38
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Purcupt_k gonna try04:39
drateor else you can go back to synaptic package manager and retry your search04:39
geraldHey, I'm trying to figure out how to get sound on an Intel 82801G imbedded sound card? Does anyone have any experience with this?04:39
cablesPurcupt_, hold on04:39
cablesPurcupt_, are you trying to use your Windows partition in Ubuntu?04:39
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Purcupt_yeah, windows crashes on the disk and I need o get the files of04:39
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Purcupt_package installed04:40
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drateoh really? all done is it?04:40
Purcupt_yup04:40
dratewell, far as I know you should be good to go then04:40
cablesPurcupt_, I don't like using Ubuntu LiveCDs for recovering Windows partitions... Knoppix is generally better for recovery work.04:40
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drateCheck any online readme's for the package if you like to dbl check uses.04:40
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Purcupt_dude i'm allmost there :)04:40
NutubuntuPie-rate, http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions04:40
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Purcupt_but thanks cables illremember it04:40
dratehowever, in the future, you might try using Puppy Linux04:40
strabesthis is the craziest suspend/resume problem i've ever seen. Dell Inspiron E1705/9400. When I boot up on AC power it suspends and resumes fine when I close the lid. When I boot up on battery power it also suspends and resumes fine when I close the lid. However, when I boot up on AC power and unplug it, it doesn't suspend when the lid is closed. It doesn't even blank the screen. Has anyone experienced this strange behavior?04:41
inaetyhello i am trying to install 704 but it is trying to download my package lists and well i have no internet connected..04:41
drateIt's Uber-fast and great fot this sorta thing04:41
inaetyhow can i have it skipped?04:41
cablesPurcupt_, if you've got an installed Ubuntu, the NTFS Configuration Manager in Add/Remove gives you a GUI for configuring ntfs-3g... but if someone here can help you with using it manually, then that's fine.04:41
Purcupt_there are so many linuxes and as a noob it's hard to know which one to take .. I hear a lot about ubuntu so I went with that one04:41
drateGotcha04:41
peepsalothow do I enable GLX?04:41
drateUbuntu is definitely made to be a desktop distro04:41
nikrudstrabes, yes, but it's so close to perfect for this iteration, I'm all giggly04:41
Ashfire908FireHazard17, sorry, i'm still trying to build it04:42
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dratenot so much for this use.... but whatever works04:42
Pelostrabes,  I suggest that you search your model in the forum , you are not the first one to mention someting along those lines04:42
bruenigthere are many made to be desktop distros04:42
FireHazard17Ashfire908: thats fine04:42
cablesPurcupt_, well, Ubuntu is better as a desktop OS than Knoppix, and Knoppix is better as a recovery OS... but both can work.04:42
Purcupt_cables ok04:42
dratespekaing of which, is it working? can you write a file to your windows partition?04:42
peepsaloti mean, how do I enable XGL?04:42
strabesnikrud, Pelo: thanks04:42
Purcupt_havn't checke yet ... gonna do that right away ... strange thing is that my lacie disk is showing up twice on my desktop04:42
wastrelgerald:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=461794&highlight=intel+82801G04:42
drateOh?04:43
dratelacie?04:43
Purcupt_external USb lacie04:43
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drateYou named your diskdrive lacie?04:43
Ashfire908FireHazard17, if this enables sound on my system you will be my new best friend. lol04:43
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Purcupt_where the files need to go to04:43
Paddy_EIREPurcupt_: ubuntu is excellent choice...although in my opinion Linux Mint is better its basically ubuntu + all the multimedia stuff preinstalled and a very nice neat theme..very well rounded distro04:43
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Pie-rateif i run "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda" will it copy my ubuntu partition and boot loader from my 80gb hard drive sdb to my 250gb hard drive sda, which i can then resize appropriately?04:43
FireHazard17Ashfire908: i said the headset most likely wont work04:43
ionstormi know there is supposedly no use for "prelink" in ubuntu but is it possible for a speed difference with it installed in feisty04:43
drateI heard about mint... does it really function that well?04:43
Absenthis there a way to theme the splash screen that covers the boot messages before GDM launches?  and if so what is that package/process called04:43
brueniglinux mint is pointless04:43
Peloinaety, that is not a problem just make sure your installation cd is in the drive and it will get the packages from there04:43
drateOh my, the debate ensues.04:43
cablesbruenig, not pointless, but really, really annoying04:43
Paddy_EIREdrate: I wouldnt be without mint anymore04:43
sethkPie-rate, the partition table will think it's an 80 gig, so you won't be able to resize.  Better to ...04:44
InjenHey hey, I have found Knoppix always identifyies my hardware correctly. There is no other linux distro that config's x corretly from the jump.04:44
Paddy_EIREdrate: and its all I recommend to my friends and clients04:44
drateAnyhooo, Purcupt_ have you tried it yet?04:44
sethkPie-rate, better to create an 80gb partition, then do the dd from sda1.04:44
inaetyPelo: i know but it's been chillin here for 20 minutes04:44
Pelobruenig,  the point of linux mint is to grab credit for the work and effort of other ppl04:44
sethkPie-rate, then expand it.04:44
thoreauputicguys - mint ---> #ubuntu-offtopic04:44
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Purcupt_damn ... the external USB drive is showing twivce averywhere04:44
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drateI'll have to give it a shot then Paddy_EIRE04:44
cablesThe best part about Ubuntu is its community and professional support, you lose that with Mint04:44
Paddy_EIREPelo: na, they give credit where its due04:44
ionstormi heard pclinux os is better than ubuntu, i dont see how04:44
Purcupt_how do I know which one to copy to ?04:44
sethkPie-rate, dd from sda1 on the 80 gig to sdb1 (assuming the second drive is sdb)04:44
ionstormanyone know how04:44
Peloinaety,  you need to   apt-get update after you put in the cd04:44
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Drk_GuyFinally i got wine working04:44
drateWell, so it's there twice... but04:44
sethkionstorm, "better" in that context is meaningless.04:44
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thoreauputicmint is off-topic mmkay?04:45
dratemore important is whether or not you can right to your hard-disk04:45
Absenththe application that masks the boot messages on ubuntu, AFTER grub BEFORE gdm is called what?04:45
drateeither one04:45
Purcupt_damned, can't right to my lacie disk04:45
ionstormsethk, yea, i think its better for newbs04:45
Drk_GuyAres is working like a charm04:45
cablesAbsenth, usplash04:45
Purcupt_no rights04:45
bruenigthoreauputic loads his gun and threatens04:45
Cr0w-hi, i don't know which is better about partitions, i think i could make /, /home, /usr and swap..but i don't know if it is right or not, for desktop machine,if it is right, how much gb for each partition? (i have 150gb)04:45
Absenthcables: danke.04:45
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Paddy_EIREthoreauputic: how is it...its ubuntu04:45
thoreauputicbruenig: not really04:45
inaetyPelo, yes after i have my internet going...but right now i cant get it installed04:45
drateHm... you might check online for some usage of ntfs-3g04:45
thoreauputicPaddy_EIRE: different distro = off topic04:45
Pie-ratesethk: will i need to reinstall the bootloader?04:45
cablesPaddy_EIRE, Ubuntu + some stuff that's easily installable in ubuntu - the great support04:45
drateunless our man thoreauputic knows more about it?04:45
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sethkionstorm, I'm skeptical, but it could be.04:45
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Drk_Guydrate: You don't need any docs on how to use it04:45
cablesat any right, thoreauputic is right04:45
nrdbI have a named dns running on a computer on my local lan,  if I do a "dig linux.localdomain" I get an answer :)  but I would like to change the setup so if I do a "dig xyz.linux.localdomain" I get the same answer,  is this doable ?   anyone know where I can find info on doing it ?04:45
drateI remember installing it.04:45
Paddy_EIREthoreauputic: it aint a different distro04:45
Drk_GuyIt's a GUI app04:46
cablesPaddy_EIRE, it is.04:46
sethkPie-rate, to boot from the large disk, yes, but that's very easy to do.04:46
ToddEDMhey guys, some gparted help here if you could...i open it up, and i se the linux partition, the swap, and the storage partition... but i cant create a new one.. or resize any of the others04:46
drateI remember using it... I don't remember any major configuration though.04:46
nikronAbsenth: what?04:46
ToddEDMany suggestions?04:46
ionstormsethk, im skeptical to, but im not trying it hehe04:46
nikronerr, wrong channel04:46
Peloinaety, I thnk I am a bit confused ? you are doing a clean install wtih a live cd and it is trying to dl packages from the net ?  that doesn't sound right at all04:46
cablesPaddy_EIRE, it's as much a different distro as Mepis is different than Ubuntu or Ubuntu is different from DEbian04:46
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sethkPie-rate, if the small disk is going to remain in the machine, then you don't have to reinstall the boot loader, just reconfigure it to boot from the new root partition.04:46
thoreauputicPaddy_EIRE: i won't argue with you - I have said what i wanted to say - if people continue to discuss other distros they will be gone04:46
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Purcupt_it seems just a glitch that it's mounting twice04:46
Paddy_EIREcables: thats silly you need to read a little more man04:46
dratePerhaps.04:46
Purcupt_should a worry about that ?04:46
inaetyPelo, i popped in the livecd, i am NOT connected to the internet but it says "downloading package lists..."04:47
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drateTry writin to the other mounting04:47
dratemaybe ntfs-3g remounted it04:47
Injennrdb: If you onlt want to do it locally, edit your hosts file, hold up.04:47
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drateso whichever you used to test-write... try the other one04:47
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Purcupt_how do you make a new folder in the gui ?04:47
Ashfire908FireHazard17, ok, i'm going to reboot04:47
cablesPurcupt_, right click, create new folder?04:47
drateright click, new, folder04:47
FireHazard17Ashfire908: ok04:47
eugmanHey how do I make history last 2000 lines?04:47
Purcupt_nope04:47
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dratenope?04:48
cableseugman, what history?04:48
Purcupt_dont have that option04:48
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strabesionstorm: it uses KDE by default; that's a start.04:48
drateWell bugger me04:48
cablesPurcupt_, you must not have write access to the drive04:48
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eugmancables, the history progam, it's a CLi program04:48
dratehey04:48
drateheeeeeeey04:48
Purcupt_how do i get right access04:48
dratei have a though my man04:48
cableseugman, ah, I'm not sure...04:48
drategoto console04:48
nrdbInjen: I know how to do that, I would like to do it via named.04:48
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eugmancables, k04:48
dratetype "sudo nautilus"04:48
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Flanneldrate: no.  gksu nautilus.04:48
cablesdrate, Purcupt_ gksudo04:48
Peloinaety,  on an installed system ?  sorry If I'm making you repeat but I'm trying to figure it out,  I can tell you this,  on an installed system,  if you put in the live cd ( the first time you do it after the installation)  ubuntu will recognise it and try to add it to the list of repos  and update the package list accordingly,  is this what is going on ?04:49
drateOnce again, never used gksudo before04:49
dratenever had a problem, but go with their's04:49
eugmandrate, no, bad! gksudo nautilus. Sudo on GUI programs especially KDE ones is bad04:49
eugmanoh nvm04:49
bruenigespecially kde?04:49
drateNeve EVER gave me a probelm man04:49
ionstormstrabes, start with kde? ouch why make things look like windows, why not look better than windows?  Also once ubuntu adds an option in the installer which gui to use ubuntu will be better04:49
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drateI swear it, was just using it earlier04:49
Flanneldrate: that doesn't mean it's safe04:49
thoreauputic!worksforme04:49
ubot3Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.04:49
dratebut as they'd have it04:49
dratego for it04:49
drategksudo04:49
winndixiekde is bloated04:49
winndixiethen again so is gnome04:49
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eugmanBruenig, I did use kdesu on a kde program and it broke my system temporarilly04:49
cablesPurcupt_, if you don't get this working (you probably will, but y'know) then try Knoppix, I find it a lot easier to write to drives and stuff with it04:50
sethkionstorm, KDE doesn't look like windows.  there is an X window manager that looks like windows, but it isn't used with kde.04:50
Drk_GuyWhy ndiswrapper isn't working?04:50
eugmaner didn't use04:50
ionstormI think ubuntu needs to get more support, and people need to mass distribute free cd's to radioshack or stores with dell computers04:50
ionstormhehe04:50
AbsenthI don't suppose any of you have run across a usplash, that looks similar to vista booting?  :)04:50
Drk_Guysethk: That's JWM04:50
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strabesionstorm: kde doesn't look like windows any more than the default ubuntu gnome looks like OS X.04:50
eugmanBruenig, I mean did use kdesu04:50
dratehave you "gksudo nautilus" yet?04:50
sethkDrk_Guy, ok.04:50
Purcupt_ok gksudo nautilus done04:50
inaetyPelo, no no there is no system..completely formatted system and all that it...i ticked Install, it's installed but now it wants to the final stuff (grub, etc etc) and one of those is download the package lists for apt-get however i dont have the internet running, thus the connection should time out after like a minute or whatever and it's well not.  it's still responding and everything just not continuing the install04:50
bruenigeugman, the problems that arise from it are not de specific by any means04:50
strabesionstorm: I don't use KDE because of its looks. I use it because it's more customizable and powerful than gnome.04:50
drateokay, find your harddrive from there04:50
Drk_GuyGuys, why ndiswrapper isn't working=?04:51
ionstormsethk, I use kde now and then, it just seems bloated, the menus are a mess, although once configured properly i guess it should be ok04:51
drateyour windows drive04:51
bruenig!doesn't work | Drk_Guy04:51
ubot3Drk_Guy: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)04:51
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drateDrk_guy what is it doing?04:51
Purcupt_all my disk have a locked icon04:51
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dratereally?04:51
dratethat sucks04:51
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dratetry 'em anyway04:51
Drk_Guybash told me it couldn't find ndiswrapper04:51
dratejust for kicks04:51
bruenig!enter | drate04:51
ubot3drate: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:51
sethkionstorm, I prefer KDE, but I agree it's resource intensive.04:51
eugmanBruenig, well it broke a kde related file. I haven't had an issue with sudo breaking Gnome so far04:51
Drk_GuyBut it was apt-get able04:51
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Drk_GuySo installed ndiswrapper-common04:51
bruenigeugman, it doesn't break gnome per se, it just creates permission problems04:52
wastrelpermission problems!04:52
strabesionstorm: the only reason the menus are a mess is because you probably installed kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu-desktop, so it shows all of the gnome apps in the kde menus. Besides, the menus are something that is so easily editable and configurable.04:52
RadiantFireDrk_Guy: install ndiswrapper-utils04:52
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ionstormsethk, KDE needs more improvment, once it improves with the resources and organization i'll use it daily04:52
drateno change Purcupt_?04:52
Peloinaety,  I think I get see what is happening but I have no idea what is going on , sorry,  everyting you need should be on the live cd it shouldn'T be trying to connect to the internet to install anything, even if your computer was connected04:52
strabesionstorm: KDE4 will rock amazingly hard04:52
Drk_GuyBut now "Error: no versions of ndiswrapper found!04:52
Drk_GuyError: no versions of ndiswrapper found!04:52
Drk_GuyError: no versions of ndiswrapper found!04:52
Purcupt_I tried changing the permission but couldn't change them04:52
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Drk_GuySorry for (accidentaly) flooding04:53
ionstormstrabes, i'll definately give it a try04:53
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Drk_GuyRadiantFire: I'll try it04:53
dratewell, I am sure you have officially exhausted my very limited usefulness.04:53
cablesPurcupt_, my advice is to try Knoppix...04:53
Purcupt_I can change file acces but not folder access drate04:53
winndixiehey guys04:53
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winndixiei'm gay04:53
drateThat's everything I remember doing myself.04:53
cablesPurcupt_, have you tried sudo mkdir in the terminal?04:53
bruenig mkfolder04:53
Drk_GuyRadiantFire: It tells -utils have been replaced by -common04:53
cablesbruenig, eh?04:53
inaetyPelo: good news, i fixed the wifi we're good now04:53
thoreauputicwinndixie: off-topic is --> that way04:53
bruenigcables, ubuntu out to alias that04:53
bruenigought*04:54
Purcupt_no not yet04:54
bruenigthe term directory confuses people04:54
winndixieyah04:54
drateIt confuses people who don't work with command line04:54
Pelowinndixie, I'm sure there are channels for you on other networks,  this one is mostly for technical support and developpement04:54
RadiantFireDrk_Guy: thats strange04:54
dratewho probably wouldn't be using the terminal anyway04:54
Drk_GuyIndeed04:54
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RadiantFireDrk_Guy: can you override and install -utils anyway?04:54
drateBut no command-line dude would question mkdir04:55
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Purcupt_I'm getting lost with all the windows04:55
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Purcupt_I' used to 3 screens :)04:55
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Drk_GuyNope04:55
wastrelsigh directory04:55
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RadiantFiredunno04:55
Drk_GuyI have no such offering04:55
wastrelalias it to what?04:55
drateWell, Purpcupt_ I'd say try knoppix or Puppy Linux or something like that.04:55
zorzei am in softmodem hell04:55
bruenigknoppix is kind of crazy, I used it the other day, it is loaded down with so much stuff it is absurd04:55
winndixieoh04:55
drateMy favorite is Puppy Linux04:55
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wastrelalias make-a-new-folder="mkdir"04:56
drateIt's what I'm using.04:56
cablesbruenig, yeah, but it's great for fixing systems if you're not too familiar with the cli04:56
bruenigwastrel, absolutely04:56
zorzeknoppix was my first nix04:56
Drk_GuyPuppy is really cool for lappys but it's packages are really hard to find04:56
drateSo far it's the only OS I can consistenly ge to work for me.04:56
InjenTry knoppix STD :)04:56
Jak08why would ubuntu stop being able to read .jpegs and .png?04:56
InjenWhoops.04:56
zorzetbh i was a little disapointed in the amount of programs in the ubunto package after using it04:56
Purcupt_naah , gonna find it :)04:56
cccvvvppphttp://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61757204:56
cccvvvppplol04:56
Drk_GuyIf you choose Pupplinux, find packages for puppy in www.dotpups.de/dotpups04:56
bruenigJak08, you mean applications04:56
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drateUbuntu Edgy I was able to create a howto for my wireless card based on about 3 other howto's for other cards.04:56
Purcupt_after all the trouble you guys did to get me here04:56
Jak08no i mean period04:56
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cablesHey, how do I add a panel to XFCE? It doesn't seem to have one by default in Xubuntu 7.04...04:57
Jak08the files are there but it won't read them04:57
peepsalotwhere is the file that holds the session options for gdm?04:57
Jak08the desktop included04:57
drateWith feisty though, all my work went down the drain.04:57
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bruenigJak08, your conception of what "ubuntu" is is off I think04:57
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Drk_Guypeepsalot: Maybe in /home/.gnome04:57
drateI hate when upgrading disables usefulness.04:57
Drk_Guy=?04:57
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jherreradoes anyone know how to create automatically Makefiles?04:57
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Jak08well, it is still not reading them in anything, my icons stoped working to so i had to change them04:57
drateI mean really, I could have used windows for that.04:57
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kidbuntuis kde's desktop much more lighter than GNOME?04:58
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sutabikidbuntu: thes the opposite04:58
thoreauputickidbuntu: about the same really04:58
Drk_GuyNo kidbuntu04:58
bruenigjherrera, if you find something, tell me, I always assumed you wrote them by hand considering just how custom they need to be for every package04:58
sethkkidbuntu, no, similar.04:58
sethkkidbuntu, perhaps even a bit heavier04:58
PeloDrk_Guy,  after all I had to do to get you going the first time around you left ?04:58
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drateSo Purcupt_ what's your next step you think?04:58
thoreauputickidbuntu: xfce4 ( xubuntu) is lighter04:58
Jak08and emerald won't start, and neither will AWN all stopped at the exact same time, I did't even install anything or mess with anything to screw it up04:58
cableskidbuntu, on an older system, probably the opposite... but on a new system, you wouldn't notice it. XFCE (Xubuntu) is lighter than both, though.04:58
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Drk_GuyBut now i have a lil' more experience04:58
wastreljherrera:  does eclipse or anjuta do that?04:58
lhothello everyone!04:58
kidbuntuok thanks everyone04:58
Drk_GuyI have been carrying my problems alone04:58
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lhoti need some sound card help04:59
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Purcupt_drate i get the message that its a read only disk so Im gonna look for something about that04:59
PeloDrk_Guy,  at the end of the day and all that04:59
InjenKDE is huge compared to Gnome :/ But yea, on a good system, you wont notice a difference.04:59
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DQuestionswhere dohi04:59
SineFatois xubuntu worth it other then having less of system fingerprint?04:59
DQuestionssorry04:59
Drk_Guy....04:59
DQuestionsheh04:59
sutabiAnyone here can help me get my Ethernet controller working again, some reason it just stopped working I didn't do anything to it either.. just turned the computer off and as soonas it turned on the eth0 was gone from the network list04:59
jherrerabruenig, I use qmake from Qt to handle C++ Makefiles, but I haven't seen anything for C yet04:59
Drk_Guy04:59
drateWell, that does confuse me... if I could have I'd have gone through those steps with you to make sure there wasn't something I missed.04:59
SineFatodoes it have any really cool extra things04:59
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DQuestionsIn this age of Ubuntu.... how hard is it to get Wine to work?04:59
Pelolhot,  we need more specific statements04:59
sutabimy list is green for the connection in th eback...04:59
bruenigSineFato, xubuntu is risky because it is hardly tested, xfce is very good though, that is all I use04:59
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thoreauputicSineFato: depends what you like and how powerful your hardware is04:59
lockdone may run X apps in a screenrc?04:59
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drateI haven't been able to access the internet since I upgraded to Feisty, so I've been exclusively Puppy since then.05:00
Drk_Guy!wine > DQuestions05:00
DQuestionslike for example getting ms word and excel up and running05:00
Purcupt_drate I know man, I very thankfull for the help you gave me05:00
w30Drk_Guy, Yeah me too, I tried Ubuntu then PCLinuxOS and after buying a Dell E1505n with Ubuntu I switched the desktop box back to Ubuntu just to keep  things the same05:00
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dratebefore you go, let me do a quick google on ntfs-3g05:00
lhoti have a sigmatel stac 925005:00
DQuestionsDrk_Guy I know what wine is05:00
SineFatoI have a intel core 2 duo 1.88, and a gig of memory05:00
Jak08to work? I never had problems getting it to work, getting programs running on it, I have had problems with :)05:00
lhotit used to work05:00
Bogus8so ubuntu verifies the users pass to do root level things?05:00
lhotnow it doesnt05:00
cablesBogus8, yes05:00
Drk_GuyThere are special Office stuff for Wien05:00
Pelo!sound | lhot05:00
ubot3lhot: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:00
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Drk_Guy*Wine05:00
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zorzehow do i edit a file as root in fiesty fawn?05:00
nikrud!rootsudo > Bogus8 (see the pm)05:00
Bogus8cables: that seems sort of insecure05:00
lockd!sudo | zorze05:01
ubot3zorze: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:01
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cablesBogus8, it's not, because every user has different sudo permissions05:01
Bogus8nikrud: I'm aware of sudo.. I come from debian05:01
Pelozorze,   gksu gedit /pathtofile/filename05:01
cablesBogus8, which means that only certain users can use their password to do things as root05:01
thoreauputicBogaurd: read the page ubot3 sent you05:01
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Drk_GuyGotta reboot05:01
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Drk_GuyLaters05:01
cablesBogus8, It's way better than handing out the root password to anyone who you want to have root access.05:01
SineFatowill 'sudo apt-get install wine' work?05:01
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zorzethx05:01
Bogus8cables: agreed with that... I guess I'm just used to setting that up myself and it not being default05:01
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Ashfire908FireHazard17, how do i know if it worked?05:01
drateOHHHHHH05:01
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lockdDoes ubuntu come with gksu already set to use sudo?05:02
dratePurpcupt_05:02
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nikrudBogus8, so did I, that's where I started with sudo05:02
dratePurcupt_05:02
cableslockd, yep05:02
drateyou there?05:02
Purcupt_drate yup05:02
lockdBecause I installed Kubuntu and had to set the super-user-command=sudo05:02
drateno wonder, there is quite a bit more05:02
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Purcupt_hehehe05:02
drate here I'mma send you the link05:02
Purcupt_just found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48618005:02
Bogus8nikrud: I'm just not used to having such things done automatically... it certainly confused me05:02
drateI must have used the autoconfig05:02
dratehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700905:02
SineFatowill 'sudo apt-get install wine' work?05:02
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drateLike I said, it's been a while.05:02
sicscamdoes anyone know to make the logitech lx700 mouse back button work ?05:02
thoreauputicSineFato: yes05:02
PeloSineFato,  yes05:03
Ashfire908FireHazard17, nm, i see it in the logs05:03
nikrudBogus8, I can understand that, I was suprised I didn't ;)05:03
SineFatoCool thanks05:03
InjenSineFato: use sudo aptitude install wine05:03
cablesBogus8, well, Ubuntu is different from Debian... it's meant for people who don't necessarily have the computer knowledge necessary to set up and use something like Debian. It's better for some people, but for others it imposes too much control on the user.05:03
Purcupt_ok gonna check it out05:03
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InjenTry to use aptitude when you can.05:03
bruenigInjen, either will work05:03
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drateI think between those two pages you should find teh missing links05:03
lockdI have actually found Ubuntu to be much more compile friendly than Gentoo05:03
drateever so sorry for not doing that before hand05:03
InjenYea, but your more likely to remove all packages with aptitude.05:03
brueniglockd, what?05:03
bruenigInjen, incorrect05:04
Ashfire908FireHazard17, it didn't work. no sound device05:04
lockdbruenig: yes, despite the fact that Gentoo has no concept of a -dev package05:04
Bogus8cables: yeah... I've always started from the ground up with any installation... but this time I figured I'd see what it's like to go with a default05:04
zorzeso if i use sudo /path/textfile   will that open it with the default text editor or run it?05:04
thoreauputicSineFato: you'll need the universe repo to apt-get install wine05:04
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brueniglockd, you don't find -dev annoying as hell05:04
nikrudBogus8, and all the usual config options are still there.05:04
Bogus8not sure I like having so many packages installed by default.... I like being able to select a more basic start and build from there05:04
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SineFatothoreauptic: say what05:04
dratewell, anyway, unless anyone here wants a date with a demi-geek or else can help me fix my wireless Feisty issue... I think I'm out.05:04
bruenigBogus8, get the server05:04
Purcupt_wow thats confusing they are explaning ntfs-3g for several bracnhes ?05:05
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cablesBogus8, again, it's designed for a very different audience :)05:05
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thoreauputicSineFato: wine is in the universe repsitory - have you enabled that?05:05
Pelozorze,  you need an editor in there ,  gksu gedit /path/file or  some other editor of your choice05:05
drateYeah, I would go for Edgy, it' sthe closes you'd come to05:05
Bogus8bruenig: well, I wanted the desktop enviroment but not things like gimp and open office (though I would install those personally)05:05
lockdbruenig: it is annoying but it's not a real problem05:05
drateUnless they have an explanation for Feisty.05:05
nikrudrflol, it's too eaaasssy :(05:05
lockdbruenig: I just pull in kde's devs and I get most everything I will need05:05
SineFatothoreauputic: not intentionally05:05
drateAnyhoo, it's late, I'm out, I spec you can figure yourself out from here.... http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyLinuxMainPage05:06
cablesBogus8, you're right, for all the talk about Windows' bloat, Ubuntu's actually much worse... although the default installed programs are a lot more useful than the ones Windows has. At any rate, I use them all, so I don't mind it.05:06
lockdBogus8: use the alternate install and you can choose05:06
dratehave fun05:06
Bogus8cables: yeah... I see that... not sure about this yet... but I'm gonna give it a go for a while... is there anyway to do a "custom" install like debian... where you choose packages upon install?05:06
jherrerawastrel, dunno, I don't use anjuta, do you?05:06
thoreauputicSineFato: go to System - Administration - Software Sources and enable community sources ( or just eanble everything)05:06
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lockdcables: well, windows doesn't come by default with a full office package05:06
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wastreljherrera:  no :] 05:06
SineFatothoreauputic: ok cool thanks05:06
cablesBogus8, I'm not sure... Ubuntu wasn't really designed as a tinkerer's distro.05:06
lhotalrighty im confused05:06
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bruenigBogus8, you might want to go with another distro05:06
Bogus8lockd: how does that work.. I tried looking at all the F2 options I just didn't really see anything obvious05:06
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cableslockd, exactly... so it has less bloat. Although ubuntu's bloat is better bloat :)05:07
nikrudBogus8, use the server cd and go that way05:07
InjenIs aptitude not better at removing dependencies?05:07
zorzePelo- so gksu would be the file editor right?05:07
bruenigInjen, it is not05:07
InjenOr are they just claiming a hype?05:07
nikrudInjen, if you installed with aptitude05:07
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wastrelthe alternate install is a separate disk05:07
cablesInjen, it's the same as apt-get autoremove... although it does have some better dependency resolution beyond just dependency removal.05:07
Bogus8wastrel: ah05:07
bruenigInjen, I dont' know who "they" are, but if "they" are saying that, "they" are wrong05:07
lockdI would advise the alternate CD, then you can grab server or whatever you might want05:07
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Pelozorze,   gksu is like sudo for graphical applications,     gedit is a graphical text editor05:07
wastrelthe server disk doesn't include X or the desktop environments05:07
varun0Bogus8: you could always just uninstall by hand :-) through synaptic05:07
bruenigBogus8, you should try arch05:07
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zorzeoh, i see05:08
InjenSo the writer of aptidude re-invented the wheel for no reason. :P05:08
InjenScrew it,05:08
nikrudcables, is autoremove something recent? (like last couple years)05:08
InjenI use aptitude.05:08
Injen:)05:08
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cablesnikron, I'm not sure...05:08
InjenAnd never have any problems removing all packages.05:08
cablesInjen, so do I05:08
InjenOn debian I used to go through hell with apt-get.05:08
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Bogus8bruenig: well, I like the idea of having a broad user base and there for more prebuilt packages availible05:08
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Bogus8just not preinstalled ;)05:08
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varun0bruenig: sorry. You know what I mean. LOL05:08
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Bogus8varun0: I'm thinking about it ;)05:09
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MicawberHi, I was wondering if someone could help me with the installation process?05:09
GuidOxDxD05:09
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bruenigBogus8, there are 9000 prebuilt packages in the repositories and thousands more the the user repository05:09
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lockdMicawber: are you having a problem with some step?05:09
GuidOxDalgum Brasil na sala?05:09
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nikrud!br05:09
ubot3Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.05:09
GuidOxDalgum brasileiro na sala?05:09
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Bogus8bruenig: you talking about ubuntu right?05:09
bruenigBogus8, arch05:09
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Bogus8bruenig: and by comparison how many are there in ubuntu?05:09
bruenigBogus8, it installs base system, you use binary package manager to get whatever else05:09
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:09
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:09
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:09
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:09
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:10
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:10
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:10
MicawberYes, the first one. I just downloaded the ISO and burned it to a CD whenever it tries to boot from CD it just jumps back into Windows. Also, in Windows, the autoplay tells me that a file cannot be found.05:10
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:10
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:10
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:10
bruenig!ops05:10
ubot3Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso05:10
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala?05:10
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala?05:10
GuidOxD?algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sal05:10
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PeloGuidOxD,  /join #ubuntu-br05:10
cablesPelo, lol05:10
varun0what does that even mean?05:10
bruenigBogus8, its hard to compare because ubuntu separates headers into different packages05:10
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InjenWhat a maroon.05:10
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lockdthat was a kick right05:10
MicawberYes, the first one. I just downloaded the ISO and burned it to a CD whenever it tries to boot from CD it just jumps back into Windows. Also, in Windows, the autoplay tells me that a file cannot be found.05:10
cableslockd, nope, it was a remove05:10
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SineFatowhere does stuff go after Apt-Get ing it? It's not in the applications menu05:11
bruenigBogus8, so nearly every package has another -dev package, whereas arch just puts them together like sane people, so ubuntu really has about half of what it would show05:11
Bogus8bruenig: but I would imagine with the user base that ubuntu has it must have the biggest repos of binaries05:11
MasterShrekMicawber, #windows05:11
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MicawberI checked the md5sum and the ISO was fine... just wondering if anyone had any ideas...?05:11
thoreauputiclockd: kick ban actually05:11
Micawberthanks05:11
cablesSineFato, depends on what it is... most GUI apps end up in the Apps menu, some don't and have to be called from the command line.05:11
varun0SineFato: it doesn't always have to be. It might be in /usr/bin or something05:11
MasterShrek:P05:11
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MasterShrekMicawber, is your bios set to boot from cd?05:11
SineFatowhere does wine go? and I've done it for a couple games and they never showed up05:11
PeloSineFato,  depends what the app is,  you don't generaly get wine entries in the menus ( you do with the winehq repos)  wine isn't a usable app, it's use to run somemething else05:11
bruenigBogus8, last time I checked it had 18,000 or so, which you cut in half and you are right around the same, also have to recognize the existence of quite a few meta packages which fill up even more space05:12
lockdSineFato: where does wine store the files?05:12
MasterShrekSineFato, ~/.wine/drive_c05:12
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MicawberYes. I made sure of that.05:12
Purcupt_how come I have an underscore behind my name ?05:12
lockdis there any problem with separate user for Wine?05:12
Bogus8bruenig: I'm definitely going to check it out05:12
MasterShrekMicawber, does it even try to boot from the cd?05:12
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MasterShrekMicawber, could be a bad burn too, or even a bad image05:12
cablesPurcupt_, because it seems like you tried to use a nick that someone else was using... or maybe you were using it on a different client. Try /nick Purcupt05:13
Bogus8what gets updated from a default 7.04 install that requires a reboot?05:13
Bogus8kernel I hope05:13
MasterShrekyea kernel bogus05:13
MicawberIt tries and fails. I checked the image against the the hash file and it is fine.05:13
bruenigBogus8, kernel is the only thing that ever requires reboot05:13
Purcupt_yeah tried it already but didn't change anything05:13
MasterShrek-15 to -1605:13
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Bogus8MasterShrek: coo05:13
Bogus8l05:13
winndixiei'll pop a cat in your ass foo05:13
Bogus8bruenig: word05:13
bruenigubuntu is still using .20 right?05:13
MasterShrekwhat did you burn it with?05:13
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Pelolockd,  they would have to  winecfg to setup their own .wine filetree in their own  /home folder05:13
MasterShrekyes bruenig05:13
MasterShrek22.2 came out today05:13
MicawberIts the Roxio burning setup that comes with XP I believe.05:14
MicawberIt's sort of built in.05:14
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cablesMicawber, Roxio doesn't come with XP...05:14
lockdPelo: how so? I am talking about a shared Wine user who anyone with group wine can access05:14
SineFatosorry for so much crap questions but is wine used for installing and running windows aps?05:14
Purcupt_btw how do you automplete name ... tab doesn't seem to work here05:14
MasterShreknope it doesnt Micawber05:14
cablesSineFato, yep, but it doesn't work with everything05:14
MasterShrekMicawber, try burning it with alcohol or nero if you can05:14
varun0SineFato: the winehq.org website has a compatibility database05:14
MasterShreki dont know how good roxio is, ive never used it05:14
Pelolockd, if the /home folder is shared then there wouldn't be a problem I guess05:14
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MicawberIts made by the Roxio company... Either way it is the burning system built into windows...05:15
lockdSineFato: and it's also not an emulator, so you will need a system which supports the actual PE code05:15
cablesPurcupt_, it should be... you're using Xchat-gnome.05:15
zorzei used nero free for my iso and it worked fine05:15
zorzetry that05:15
Micawberok, thanks05:15
Injen^ aye05:15
cablesMicawber, since when does XP include Roxio? All it came with for me was a crap file burner, it couldn't even erase discs.05:15
bruenigunless you need bluray or hddvd, there is no reason to have nero on linux05:15
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MasterShrekxp's burning software is made by roxio05:15
MasterShreki forgot that until Micawber said it05:16
JKirk_Help!!! I just installed ubuntu and my colors are a mess.  When I start firefox, I can't see hardly anything unless I drag a selection box around the text to invert it... can anyone help me?05:16
lockdis there a way to write bluray or hddvd without nero?05:16
Purcupt_tab gives me a list of all the users online which is a huge list05:16
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zorzei was using windows at teh time ^^05:16
MasterShrekJKirk_, system > preferences05:16
InjenMicawber: make sure to burn "Image" to disc. Don't burn a regular data cd.05:16
Micawberok05:16
Purcupt_how do I cancel an  upgrade05:16
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JKirk_MasterShrek, ok...then?05:16
Purcupt_nevermind its finished05:16
MicawberOk, I'll give it another shot.05:16
InjenIs it MasterShrek? I did not know that :)05:16
Junocan anyone tell me why when I put the command on the nvidia site to install the display driver it doesnt work?05:16
MasterShrekJKirk_, theme05:17
PeloJKirk_,   do you mean your monitor and video card are freaking out or do you mean you have a crappy theme ?05:17
MasterShrekyea i believe so Injen05:17
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MasterShrekJKirk_, customize button and colors05:17
JKirk_I installed ubuntu ultimate 1.405:17
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MasterShrekwtf is that?05:17
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Injen:P05:17
lockdit's an unsupported distro05:17
bruenigMasterShrek, linux mint 2.005:17
JKirk_I tried changing themes but while everyting else changed, the colors in the boxes didn't :(05:17
MasterShrekhmm05:17
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xxKittie27xxthere are alot of people here05:18
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xxKittie27xx=)05:18
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PeloMasterShrek, someone make an install cd pack with a but load of software that installs by default for no reason , basicaly05:18
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JKirk_http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate05:18
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winndixiewhich race is superior?05:18
winndixiei want to know which is race is most important05:18
Purcupt_drate ... I did su root ... it's asking the password ... is there a default one ?05:18
Pelo!ops | winndixie05:18
ubot3winndixie: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso05:18
bruenig!ops | winndixie05:18
LunisIs there a way to see what programs are accessing a particular drive, especially a removable one?05:18
JKirk_Juno, I'm using nvidia drivers... maybe i can help?05:19
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winndixieim gay!05:19
Junoiunno05:19
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waylanwow05:19
waylanlol05:19
robsigh05:19
Injenwinndixie is asking for it05:19
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MasterShrekPurcupt_, definately not, you would have made your root password when u installed05:19
Injenasked* for it.05:19
waylanhey can someone help a brother out05:19
kyncaniHi, is it just me or is ubotu dead ?05:19
JunoI downloaded the driver from nvidia's website, I go to terminal and put in the "sh" command and it says it can't do it05:19
wastrel!ubotu05:19
ubot3I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:19
Purcupt_i guessed there wasn't one but I'm runnig from bootable disk so no instalation05:19
elkbuntuInjen, winndixie got it good, so run along now, nothing to see05:19
Pelowaylan,  we need you to ask a question05:19
Kousotu!unfobot05:19
ubot3Factoid unfobot not found05:19
waylani need to get my wireless card on my inspiron 6400 working05:19
JKirk_Juno,  you have to do it as root05:20
bruenigJuno, you cannot have X running05:20
Kousotu!infobot05:20
ubot3Factoid infobot not found05:20
waylanand fix my graphics05:20
kyncaniwastrel: thanks :)05:20
Kousotulol05:20
JKirk_and you CAn't have x running05:20
InjenI'm da police, this is my crime scene.05:20
Injen:P05:20
MasterShrekPurcupt_, do a sudo su05:20
Junoah...05:20
waylanto 1200 x 80005:20
Junoroger that05:20
Purcupt_mastershrek ok05:20
Junobrb I'll try that.  thanks!05:20
Pelo!wifi | waylan05:20
ubot3waylan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:20
JKirk_so to do it in ubuntu, you have to hit ctrl-alt-f1 and then log in... then you have to do ps -aux and find the gdm services and do a kill05:20
kidbuntuanyone here who knows how to trace a java file?05:20
naliothPurcupt_: there is no root password05:20
JKirk_then you can install the manual driver05:20
nalioth!tell Purcupt_ about root05:20
waylanthanks for the link05:21
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Injenkidbuntu: trace, having a meaning similar to find?05:21
waylananyone know about intel graphics on here05:21
waylan???05:21
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MasterShrekJKirk_, yes but you can just run /etc/init.d/gdm stop to stop your gdm05:21
Pelowaylan,  anyting specific you need to know ?05:21
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Kousotu!hi kyncani05:21
ubot3Factoid hi kyncani not found05:21
hubuntu_______Hi people05:21
Kousotulol05:21
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elkbuntu!botabuse05:22
ubot3Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:22
Kousotuoops forgot a |05:22
waylani need to get my resolution to 1200x800 this 1024x768 is killing my eyes05:22
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Purcupt_why not tell percept about root ?05:22
PeloKousotu,  if you don'T knwo how to use the bot please don'T05:22
Purcupt_purcupt05:22
JKirk_MasterShrek, oh NOW you tell me ;)05:22
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KousotuPelo: I do05:22
hubuntu_______I have a rather odd question.... Long story short I need to boot the Ubuntu Live CD from lilo... anyone?05:22
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KousotuI goofed up05:22
osxdude|laptop!upgrade05:22
ubot3For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes05:22
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kidbuntuInjen: I don't know. I downloaded an opensource framework. I'm using eclipse and i wanted to trace which java file is the one making the particular program work05:22
JKirk_ok... I think I've got the colors better now...thanks MasterShrek05:22
osxdude|laptop!jf05:22
ubot3Factoid jf not found05:22
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osxdude|laptopubot3 is under an update05:22
ubot3osxdude|laptop: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:22
Pelowaylan,  in the terminal  type  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and add the resolutions you need to the list,  follow the syntax carefullty, save and restart X05:22
ca1running aplay -l I get an error of no sound card detected but my sound card is listed with sudo aplay -l and I am unable to hear anything while I can hear and play music for instance through sudo rhythmbox. Can anyone plleasse help me??05:22
DDragonkidbuntu: so you want to locate the file on you computer?05:22
osxdude|laptopi was right05:23
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kidbuntuDDragon: yes!.05:23
waylanthanks05:23
saul_ola!05:23
thoreauputiccal check if you are in the audio group05:23
JKirk_is there a good place to get more themes for ubuntu?05:23
Injenerr, kidbuntu, I don't know how to help you.05:23
Pelo!theme | JKirk_05:23
ubot3JKirk_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy05:23
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ca1thoreauputic:  I am in the audio group, I checked that already.05:23
JKirk_thanks05:24
JKirk_how come no one seems to know about ubuntu ultimate edition?05:24
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JKirk_it rocks!05:24
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kidbuntuDDragon: not exactly locate. with the program running will i be able to find which java file is the one making the program work05:24
JKirk_has compiz fusion built-in and lots of software...05:24
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coopsterkidbuntu, try running ps -Af |grep java05:24
PeloJKirk_,  ubuntu ultimate edition is not an official ubuntu release, it is someone's idea of a bad joke,  it is realy pointless05:24
kidbuntucoopster: running that in where?\05:25
JKirk_bad joke?  howso?  I'm using it now and it's wonderful05:25
kidbuntucoopster: terminal?05:25
coopsterkidbuntu, yep05:25
JKirk_based on the official ubuntu and has lots of extras05:25
FlannelJKirk_: compiz-fusion is easy enough to add.  As is all the software included.  And you don't get stuck with no-support and automatix.05:25
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GoKillPeopleIs there a way I can get my display to go to 1440 X 900 instead of the presets?05:25
MicawberThanks for the help..05:25
hubuntu_______no booting live cd from lilo help here? anyone? just the command for the ubuntu live cd from lilo....05:25
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kidbuntucoopster: whats with that command?05:25
JKirk_not using automatix05:25
kyncaniJKirk_: what kind of extras ?05:25
PeloJKirk_,  it's just ubuntu repackages with a different theme and a butload of default progs you donT' know that you want anyway and that you can get easily enought using the repos system in ubuntu05:25
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nalioth!tell GoKillPeople about xcfg05:26
JKirk_when I load ubuntu official ,the menu is practially blank...05:26
JKirk_ultimate has a ton of audio video and some games05:26
waylani'm having trouble with figuring out the graphics...i tried the edit in terminal...but there is no list to add to..05:26
GoKillPeopleah05:26
GoKillPeoplethanks =)05:26
waylani'm a n00b be gentle05:26
waylanlol05:26
coopsterkidbuntu, 'ps -Af' will list all of the running processes including the command line, and adding '| grep java' will display only lines with java in them05:26
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Pelowaylan,  you typed it wrong  it's   X one one , not X L L05:27
Pelowaylan,  and linux is case sensitive,   so   gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:27
JKirk_is there a mac osx looking theme out there for ubunut?05:27
waylanthat's what i put05:27
ca1I'm having trouble with sound on my computer my user is unable to hear any sound. But sudo can. I already checked groups. and aplay -l doesn't see a sound card though sudo aplay -l does05:27
ca1help please.05:27
GoKillPeople/exit Bye!!05:27
PeloJKirk_, several , look in the links you were given05:27
GoKillPeoplelol05:28
GoKillPeopleexit isn't it..05:28
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kyncaniJKirk_: well, i'm using kde and there are many programs in the menus05:28
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lockdJKirk_: official Ubuntu packages are available for most of those05:28
lockdbtw, is there a way to separate automatix from official, like prefixing or something?05:29
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kidbuntucoopster: hows that helps me to find which file or files?. or just by reading a particular source code05:29
lockdsay, like a /usr/automatix (if that's legal to do with the filesystem)05:29
waylanit shows the resolutions i need, but what i have right now is sooo blurry05:29
waylani don't get it05:29
naliothlockd: you should stay away from automatix.  if you've installed it, you're screwed.05:29
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Bogus8so ubuntu has compiz installed by default (once it's enabled).. correct?05:30
lockdnalioth: why so? I haven't, but would like to know05:30
JKirk_lockd, I'm not saying the packages aren't out there...just saying it's nice and convenient not to have to load anything myself... :)05:30
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FlannelJKirk_: except you're pre-loading a broken system05:30
thoreauputic!automatix05:30
ubot3automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:30
naliothlockd: all the functionality of automatix is built into feisty, there is no need to use it05:30
PeloBogus8,  more or less   from more info ask in #ubuntu-effects05:30
Bogus8it's fully blown right?  I've never used it before but is one reason I installed on this laptop05:30
waylanmaybe i need to add 32 after 24????05:30
JKirk_broken? howso?05:30
waylanbits?05:30
Bogus8Pelo: umm, ok05:30
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kyncaniJKirk_: there was a post about automatix in ubuntuplanet some days ago, also made it to slashdot i think05:31
kyncaniJKirk_: like very, very broken05:32
Pelowaylan, in helps if you state the name of the person you are talking to in each line and please stop using the enter key for punctutation , this is a busy channel ,   please uplaod your xorg.conf file to the pastebin so we can have a look05:32
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Pelo!pastebin | waylan05:32
ubot3waylan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:32
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Junohow do I kill X after ubuntu has all ready booted?05:32
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ca1I'm having trouble with sound on my computer my user is unable to hear any sound. But sudo can. I already checked groups. and aplay -l doesn't see a sound card though sudo aplay -l does05:32
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ca1help05:32
sethkJuno, control-alt-backspace is one way05:32
JKirk_why does everyone keep talking about automatix...I'm not using that05:33
sethkJuno, although that will put you back to the login screen, not stop X entirely.05:33
Junothat will kill X and get me to the prompt?05:33
rissyca1, add yourself to the audio group05:33
FlannelJKirk_: UUE has automatix in it already.05:33
JKirk_sethik: no...ctrl-alt-back doesn't work...the gdm just reloads05:33
killown|awayhow do i to get recursive directory "wget -r *.bz2 files!"?05:33
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LunisJuno, it will kill X and restart it05:33
sethkJuno, control-alt-f1 will give you a non-gui login05:33
Peloca1,  menu > system > admin > users, select the user open theproperties and see that he has access05:33
JunoI need to stop X completely to install the NVIDIA driver05:33
FlannelJKirk_: and it does plenty of things non-correctly.05:33
JKirk_Flannel, has it but I don't use it05:33
JKirk_can you specifiy?05:33
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PeloJuno,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:33
sethkkillown|away, it doesn't reload, because it never stopped running.  As I noted ...05:33
thoreauputicJuno:   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:33
SitheHey can someone here help me with Beryl?05:33
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riyonukI got a software update notification, if I click install updates, will it upgrade to 7.04? Cause theres a button for that too05:34
naliothSithe: join #ubuntu-effects for beryl05:34
JKirk_I just installed and if it's gonna be a problem, I'd like to reinstall a basic ubuntu before I get to settled in...05:34
PeloSithe,  the ppl in #beryl can05:34
SitheAhh okay05:34
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SitheHow can I get to #beryl?05:35
SitheSorry Im new to IRC05:35
coopsterkidbuntu, well, I had thought you wanted to identify the file that a java program used?  Usually, java programs are run by executing 'java <some_file.jar>' at some point or another, so looking at 'ps -Af' would reveal that jar file05:35
PeloSithe,   type /join #beryl05:35
SitheTy05:35
Rowanoh i know the problem, sorry gotta rejoin one more time05:35
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LunisIs there a way to either force an unmount, or tell what is accessing a mount that's keeping it from unmounting?05:36
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royelHey, I'm looking to setup a PDC with roaming profiles, clients will be both linux and win(xp), I'm confused about whether to use NFS or Samba, I've read something about samba not liking roaming profiles, perhaps someone could confirm this or knows of a good tutorial on this exact thing?05:36
kyncaniLunis: use lsof05:36
sethkLunis, lsof will list open files, and you can search the output for the mount point05:36
thoreauputicLunis:  try   lsof | grep <mountpoint>05:36
PeloLunis,  man umount  I think there is an option to force it05:36
hubuntudoes anybody knows which path is used for the init files are  on the install CD in 5.04 / hoary?05:36
Bogus8is there not a ubuntu repos with Opera on it?05:36
Lunis:D o05:37
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Lunis^I'll try lsof05:37
thoreauputic!opera05:37
ubot3opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:37
kidbuntubut the command that you gave returned this. i dont know what this is " 8037  8019  0 11:25 pts/0    00:00:00 grep java05:37
kidbuntu"05:37
themanwhats up05:37
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Bogus8thoreauputic: thanks05:37
ca1Pelo:  I already added myself with sudo nano /etc/group05:37
thoreauputic:)05:37
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themanhey does ubuntu or linux in general have anything like windows scandisk ?05:38
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sethkkidbuntu, that's the grep command itself, not the one he was looking for.05:38
Pelo!sound > ca1 check your priviate message windows for a message from ubot3   try this then05:38
kersinc#panas05:38
MasterShrektheman, e2fsck05:38
Pelokersinc,  /join #panas05:38
themando you have to have your drive unmounted?05:38
hubuntubogus.. you may as well go to the site of the product... of course it is better to have it through a repository.. but the site is faster :)05:38
JKirk_!changethemes05:38
ubot3[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu05:38
sethktheman, the various fsck programs.  If you are looking for hardware level, look at badblocks05:38
thoreauputictheman: yes05:38
Bogus8hubuntu: yeah, I like using apt to maintain it though05:38
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kidbuntusethk: can you explain it to me further, i didnt get it.05:39
thoreauputictheman: running a file system check on a mounted drive would be a Bad Move (tm) :)05:39
themanis that the best thing out there?05:39
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lockdI have heard that roaming profiles is inherantly broken05:39
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kyncaniBogus8: i think you can find opera in medibuntu repos05:39
coopsterkidbuntu, right, try it without the grep command, it may be that this method won't work in your situation if all you're seeing is the grep command05:39
themanwhy such a bad move?05:39
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galpa#ubuntu-es05:39
naliothkyncani: opera is availabe from the ubuntu commercial repos05:39
dpgamerHey, can anyone explain why ubuntu live cd won't load up on my laptop? It will show various error messages before it even comes up then once the gui shows (when it does show) it freezes.05:39
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Bogus8kyncani: cool... I'm checking things out05:39
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thoreauputictheman: if it is mounted you run the risk of writing to it while checking it05:40
themanoh05:40
sethkkidbuntu, he did a ps (process status) command, fed the output to grep (which searches for lines matching a particular word).  In this case you pulled out the line that said "grep java", which is not what he was hoping to find, but was in fact the command you were running to look for the data.05:40
cccvvvpppwtf05:40
kyncaninalioth, Bogus8: oh, did not know that (use konqueror and firefox here)05:40
cccvvvppp[22:40]  ERROR *** Banned: Temporary D-line 14400 min. - (r12/23) Your client nick/user/ircname looks random-generated. Please use another server. (2007/8/9 23.40)05:40
cccvvvppplol05:40
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cccvvvpppon efnet via this nick05:40
sethkkidbuntu, if that's the only line shown, then java is not running at the time you executed the command.05:40
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naliothcccvvvppp: #ubuntu-offtopic is for offtopic chatter  :)05:40
hubuntudpgamner what laptop do you have? model?05:40
Pelodpgamer,  do you have a nvidia or ati video card ?  you need to use the alternat install cd , and install the drivers afterwards  cause they aren't opensource05:41
sethkkidbuntu, I get rid of the problem by adding    | grep -v grep     to the end of the command (which says skip lines containing "grep")05:41
dpgamerHP dv9000z05:41
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dpgamerpheonix bios, nvidia graphics05:41
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Bogus8kyncani: you should check it out man... it's the bees knees ;)05:41
themanhow would you run e2fsck without having your hard drive mounted05:41
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ca1Pelo:  The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured. I'll try those links now. I'll get back to you05:41
Pelodpgamer,  you will need to use the alternate isntall cd , it is text based05:41
hubuntutry the install with safe graphics before the alternate CD05:41
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kyncaniBogus8: it's not gpl, so it's a no-go05:41
Junook, I tried to install the nvidia driver and it said something about missing kernal something or other.  any idea on that?05:42
Bogus8kyncani: but it's so lovely ;)05:42
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kidbuntusethk: so for example. the module of the program somehow related to promo pricing. then I do this? " ps -Af |promo java "05:42
Peloca1,  sounds to me like your user is not set to use alsa ,   but someting else,  make sure the user uses alsa ,05:42
hubuntuyeah.. and they use Qt too :) that's why opera is so portable05:42
hubuntuor am I wrong?05:42
hubuntuI read that somewhere05:42
kyncaniBogus8: yeah, it's the dark side05:42
lockdso they actually have to pay for Qt05:42
ca1Pelo:  who do I check that?05:42
dpgamerIs there anyway to use this install cd in text mode?05:43
Bogus8kyncani: they used to be pay... give them some time they'll come around05:43
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sethkkidbuntu, that's not likely to work, though, because all you get from ps is the command line that started the command.  Unless the java program happens to have "promo" in the name, it won't show anything.  Also, ps is only good for programs that are running at the time ps is executed.05:43
Peloca1, dbl click on the sound icon in the top pannel , checn the menus and stuff05:43
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hubuntuwell trolltech has to survive of the paying companies, right? I honestly v can't say that I have helped them so much (but again... I do not use KDE either :)05:43
JKirk_I've got a 4 button mouse with roller and for some reason, button 3 invokes cube rotate.. is there a way for me to make it do a backup (as in firefox backup to a previous page)?05:43
Junoanyone know what kernel it is that NVIDIA tries to download from the website?05:43
sethkkidbuntu, you might instead try using the find command, perhaps something like:  find / -iname '*promo*'     which finds any files on the box with promo in the name05:44
lockdBogus8: what I hate worst is closed-source "freeware" just because it's based on a particular toolkit05:44
JKirk_Juno, don't worry about it05:44
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JKirk_just ignore that and let it build one for you05:44
Junoit wont build one for me either05:44
kidbuntui dont really get it. are you familiar with sethk web frameworks? can you name something05:44
Junosays I'm missing something05:44
Junoand iunno wtf Im doing05:44
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Juno=D05:44
JKirk_than you are screwed05:44
JKirk_:(05:44
Bogus8lockd: I just think they are holding on to old ideals and such05:44
lockdhubuntu: well, I just wonder how Opera can survive, but it does sell a lot of other products05:44
kyncani!nvidia >Juno05:44
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kidbuntusethk: i dont really get it. are you familiar with  web frameworks? can you name something05:45
hubuntujuno google envy fesity05:45
lockdBogus8: yeah, and when the claim is "messy code"?05:45
ca1Pelo:  What sound icon?05:45
ca1Pelo:  volume icon?05:45
hubuntuit will fix hopefully your problem05:45
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Peloca1,  yes the volume icon05:45
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Bogus8lockd: I find it is better than firefox... it's why I switched... even before it was free05:45
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lockdBogus8: I say $#@#, assembly (what you give us) is a so much more verbose and messy05:45
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newbie2how to install a file with extension deb05:45
JKirk_can anyone help me with the mouse problem?05:45
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Pelonewbie2, doulbe click on it05:46
MISTERTibbs  deb05:46
IdleOnenewbie2, dpkg -i filename.deb05:46
hubuntuopera survives out of their opera browser for mobile devices05:46
gnychisi install compiz fusion, but it does not show up in GDM as a session option, anyone maybe know why?05:46
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ca1Pelo:  I already sent you what I get when I try to click it05:46
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hubuntunintedo wii, psp, some nokia symbian models...05:46
lockdBogus8: I just used Konq because it is mostly decent05:46
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: talk05:46
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Peloca1,  try alsamixer in the terminal , and change it from there05:47
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: mouse issue??05:47
Bogus8I've turned quite a few people from FF to Opera... a simple test drive and they are hooked05:47
kahrytanHow do you show trashcan on desktop?05:47
ca1Pelo:  I can't run alsamixer in the terminal unless sudo. What should I do?05:47
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kyncanilockd: mostly decent, i'd say, it's great ! Always have an instance opened here :)05:47
Gh0stAnybody mind helping me out dealingwith, basically, restarting a laptop from scratch and loading a second OS for Dual-boot?05:47
hubuntuand some weird framework they sell...05:47
hubuntuanyway05:47
lockdkyncani: there are flaws which I hope are fixed in 4.x05:47
hubuntuno luck with lilo anyone?05:47
Peloca1, I'm stumped,  check in the forum taht is all I can suggest05:47
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Geek_Gh0st: what OSes?05:48
kyncanilockd: yeah, presentation. And hopefully gnash will come around soon too05:48
JKirk_I've got a 4 button mouse with roller and for some reason, button 3 invokes cube rotate.. is there a way for me to make it do a backup (as in firefox backup to a previous page)?05:48
kriticalIs it possible to change the permissions of a folder so that all files created in that folder inherit the same permissions?05:48
lockdkyncani: they are shared with Safari, though - such as not listening to XSLT05:48
Gh0stWindows Vista (Pre-installed), and Dual-Boot Ubuntu.05:48
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ca1Pelo:  I've checked the forums no one posts anything.05:48
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Peloca1, remember the first thing I told you to do about the user dialog in the admin menu,   ?  go and do it05:48
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JKirk_MISTERTibbs, I've got a 4 button mouse with roller and for some reason, button 3 invokes cube rotate.. is there a way for me to make it do a backup (as in firefox backup to a previous page)?05:49
Pelo!mouse | JKirk_05:49
ubot3JKirk_: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto05:49
coopster!repeat  | JKirk_05:49
ubot3JKirk_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience05:49
kyncanikritical: nope05:49
JKirk_thanks05:50
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: on private channel05:50
JKirk_I don't see the private chan05:50
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hubuntua simple question about a ps2 mouse05:50
Gh0stGeek_: Windows Vista Basic (Pre-installed) and Dual-Boot with05:50
Gh0stUbuntu05:50
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JKirk_MISTERTibbs, did you already open one?05:50
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MISTERTibbsJKirk_: wait one05:50
Pelohubuntu,  don'T announce your questions just ask them05:50
Geek_Gh0st: hmm, partitioned already?05:51
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ca1Pelo:  tell me that again.05:52
ca1Pelo:  please.05:52
alaahiiiiiii05:52
hubuntuI tried to install feisty on a P3 which has a PS/2 mouse. Everything worked, but the mouse. It was recognized as a strange mac element under HAL. I experienced something similar with Caldera (befora the SCO days ;) and I wonder if it has something to do with the kernel... The mouse won't work (tried with 2 mouses, that worked undder windows in the same machine)... anyone?05:52
Peloca1,  menu > system > admin > users ,   select the user ,  click the properties button on the right, second tab ,  check the corect box05:52
Geek_Gh0st: 1) http://lifehacker.com/software/vista/screenshot-tour--repartition-your-hard-drive-in-windows-vista-231613.php repartition 2) pop in ubuntu CD and boot. follow install procedures CAREFULLY and install on the right partition. 3) boot into your new install ;)05:53
mrigns!loco05:53
ubot3Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams05:53
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vexati0nps/2 mice are ancient technorogy.05:53
DepecheHi guys.05:53
ameyernot that ancient05:53
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alaadoes any one know how to install hotmail msn on that ubunto05:53
Gh0stGeek_: Going to Partition when I install Ubuntu from CD. My plan is this: To run the recovery disc that came with the laptop (contains factory settings of the laptop), thus putting it at basic settings. [I have a list of programs that I'll want to be sure to put back on Windows.]  Then, follow the method you just mentioned about installing and partioning. My question: Is my plan efficient?05:53
alaaor yahpp05:53
Pelohubuntu,  I suggst you look up the mouse model in the forum see if anything is mentionned05:54
InjenAnyone have recommendations for backup software? Anything better than keep?05:54
vexati0nalaa: install hotmail? don't you just go to the website?05:54
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ameyersome motherboards still have ps/2 ports, and you can still buy ps/2 mice05:54
PeloInjen,  do a search in synaptic see what comes up05:54
Geek_Gh0st: DON'T partition from ubuntu... partition from vista.05:54
thedonvaughnalaa: confused.. what do u mean "install" hotmail or yahoo?05:54
alaain ubuntooooooo05:54
geniialaa: look into kopete or gaim/pidgin05:54
ca1Pelo:  I'm having problems for some reason with that now. I can't even sudo nano /etc/groups . So I am going to reboot bbl05:54
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alaawell in gaim it works05:54
thedonvaughnalaa: u can use your favorite mail client that supports POP3 to read your hotmail or yahoo email.05:54
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Gh0stGeek_: So, recover, then partition, then boo and install?05:54
Geek_i had issues with that, only got saved by XP's checkdisk05:54
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alaabut i want sprate msn05:54
Gh0st*boot05:54
Peloca1,  you don't need to use the terminal for wht I am telling you to do05:54
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: what are your mouse specs??05:54
kriticalvexati0n, they're still in production, motherboards are still manufactured with PS/2 ports... I don't understand how you can claim it as ancient.... the majority of KVM's still require PS/205:55
DepecheHey, I've got an ATI Radeon AIW 8500 and Ubuntu 7.04 only gives me 800x600 @ 60 hz as the best option. What do I do to fix this?05:55
vexati0nkritical: it was sarcasm.05:55
ca1Pelo:  I know. But I am unable to what you told me to do either.05:55
ca1Pelo:  brb05:55
alaaplzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz05:55
Geek_Gh0st: no, partition in vista, install. if you already partitioned check if vista can boot05:55
DepecheMy uncle gave me this pc and said he ran at 1280x1024 as a higher refresh05:55
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alaaSOME ONE HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP05:55
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alaaLOL05:55
DepecheCan someone please help me out?05:55
PeloDepeche,  search the forum for ati resolution  there is a special way to do it for those card05:55
astro76!caps | alaa05:55
ubot3alaa: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.05:55
Depecheoh ok.05:55
MISTERTibbsDepeche: I had the same issue05:55
astro76!im | alaa05:55
alaaI WANT HOTMAIL MSN05:55
coopster!patience | alaa05:55
Geek_...05:55
DepecheI'm not linux friendly right now, but playing with this to learn.05:56
kriticalalaa: install Gaim/Pidgin05:56
cafuegoalaa: http:/www.hotmail.com/ in your web browser05:56
muhammadwhat is the default root password for first installation?05:56
alaaI DOWNLOAD IT BUT I DONOT KNOW HOW TO INSTALL WITH THAT TERMIAL05:56
astro76!caps | alaa05:56
PeloDepeche, I needed to incrase the horizsync value in xorg.conf to 64 for mine to work at that resolution05:56
MISTERTibbsDepeche: google ubuntu ATI.  It's a common problem and there is a how to05:56
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thoreauputicalaa: stop being silly05:56
astro76alaa, please don't shout05:56
Geek_alaa: MS dosen't have a version of MSNIM for linux. use gaim05:56
alaaOKOK05:56
IdleOne!fixres | Depeche05:56
alaaOK05:56
Gh0stGeek_: Ok. But, I want to put my Windows OS back at factory settings, that way it takes up the least amount of space possible. Would that interfere with partioning and installing?05:56
kriticalalaa: sudo apt-get install gaim05:56
DepecheThank you MisterTibbs05:56
Pelomuhammad,  the password you set when you piked your user name05:56
cafuegoalaa: You don't need to download gaim or pidgin, you can install it via Add/Remove in the Applications menu.05:56
vexati0n(this is why it is a good thing that linux will never be the dominant desktop OS. thank christ.)05:56
MISTERTibbsDepeche: np.  good luck05:56
thinlacei just setup windowsxp with qemu on feisty, however i can't get network access. i tried the -net user flag but no luck anyone know how this works?05:56
alaaI WANT IT SPARATEDDDDDDD05:57
MISTERTibbs!fixres05:57
cafuegoalaa: Stop using caps.05:57
kyncani!ubotu05:57
coopsterubot seems to have gone awal.05:57
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alaaok05:57
thoreauputicalaa: stop it or you will be kicked05:57
coopsters/awal/awol05:57
cafuego!test05:57
alaaokok05:57
kriticalI'm suprised by anyone who can connect to IRC and not use a caps-lock button...05:57
Geek_Gh0st: naw, it shouldn't. in my case i installed vista, XP and ubuntu05:57
MISTERTibbsubot05:57
muhammadbut it say login incorrect05:57
cccvvvpppwhat in the world05:57
coopsterkritical, well, to be fair he used it once.05:57
alaaso plz i want  the hotmail work without Gaim05:57
DepecheLot of stuff to read. grr.05:57
Geek_kritical: i think he's trying to be a PITA05:57
Pelomuhammad,  linux is case sensitive05:57
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kyncanicafuego: seems like ubotu is really dead now ...05:58
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Gh0stSo, I don't need to recover at all, just partition, reboot from CD and install into partition?05:58
Geek_alaa: *not* possible, go yell at MS for that05:58
kidbuntudoes gaim have a feature wherein you can read the history of my messages?05:58
Gh0st*Geek_05:58
cafuegoalaa: You may need amsn, which I can't help you with.05:58
Geek_hmm05:58
MISTERTibbswhat happened to the ubot?05:58
Peloalaa,   search in the forum for hotmail howto  there is a method there05:58
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Geek_allaa: AMSN05:58
Geek_Gh0st: yes?>05:58
muhammadok05:58
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Pelo!ubot305:58
Pelo!ubot305:58
alaaok where to write that05:58
thoreauputicMISTERTibbs: being looked at as we speak05:58
cafuegoalaa: in http://www.google.com/05:58
Peloalaa,   www.ubuntuforums.org05:58
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JKirk_MISTERTibbs, private msg05:59
muhammadok05:59
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: ok05:59
coopster!test05:59
Gh0stGeek_: Thanks. One last question: IS there anything that lets me know I'm installing into correct partition? Or, is there something more I would need to do?05:59
muhammadthen how can i change the password in a comman line?05:59
alaai downloaded amsn but i donot know how to exctact it05:59
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Pelo!botabuse05:59
ubot3Factoid ubot3 not found05:59
Pelosigh ...05:59
Geek_Gh0st: usually i go by size ;)05:59
thinlaceis this a bad place to ask about qemu?05:59
Peloalaa,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/05:59
ubot3Failed.05:59
ubot3Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:59
Pelothinlace,  yes it is likely to get you linched06:00
Gh0stGeek_: Meaning....? USe the partition that looks the largest?06:00
Geek_thinlace: not bad, but #qemu is better06:00
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: click my name to open private06:00
thoreauputicthe bot is lagging - please don't abuse it06:00
lockdthinlace: IMO VirtualBox is better06:00
muhammadand why doesn't ubuntu have KPDF on the default installation?06:00
Geek_Gh0st: i usually set them to be different sizes ;)06:00
lockdmuhammad: because Ubuntu does not even default to kde06:00
Peloalaa,  I don't allow /msg please talk to me in the channel06:00
alaagosh06:01
alaapelo06:01
Gh0stGeek_: Ok...Still not understanding. But, I'm sure I'll get it through the process.06:01
Peloyes ?06:01
alaaplz help06:01
astro76alaa, you can install amsn through synaptic06:01
thoreauputicmuhammad: because it's a KDE app - ubuntu has a pdf viewer though06:01
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astro76!synaptic | alaa06:01
ubot3alaa: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto06:01
alaai downloaded the amns06:01
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MISTERTibbsmuhammad: apt-get install KDE desktop will give you the experience.  u can run gnome or kde session if dual install06:01
alaawell i tried but where is it06:01
thoreauputicalaa: last warning - be patient, calm down and stop using <enter> as punctuation06:01
astro76alaa, did you read that link already about synaptic??06:01
lockdMISTERTibbs: eh, that is not the correct packages, shouldn't it be kubuntu-desktop?06:02
Peloalaa,  you might need to enable the multiverse repos and the backport06:02
alaahow is that06:02
alaatell me how06:02
MISTERTibbslockd: u might be right.  I only installed it once and then deleted.06:02
thoreauputic!repos | alaa06:02
ubot3alaa: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource06:02
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Peloalaa,  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager ,  find  repositories in the menu,   check the mulbiverse box in the first that and the backport one in the third tab I think06:03
thinlacelockd why virtualbox? just wondering06:03
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, I did open a dialog window06:03
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MISTERTibbsJKirk_: well thats not working.  wanna try IM?? i've got a googlechat06:03
alaaok then what06:03
riyonukI nderstand I can mount my windows partition? Im trying to get all my music from windows to linux, and then format that drive :D06:04
MasterShrekgoogle has chat now?!06:04
JKirk_haven't tried that before but I'm game06:04
MasterShrekwhen did that happen?06:04
lockdthinlace: it uses kqemu style emulation, but anything kqemu does it gets caches06:04
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Peloalaa,  then use the search feature to look for amsn again06:04
lockdthinlace: cached06:04
MasterShrekcan u use pidgin for google chat?06:04
dgeorgegoogle talk... i06:04
alaathanks man yyou are so sweet06:04
alaawait donot you move ha06:04
alaalol06:04
Peloalaa,  when you talk to someone in a busy channel it help is you type their nick in each line06:04
dgeorgeis it different than google talk or06:04
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ari_stress2guys, what is the substitute command for rpm -ql in ubuntu? i need to know what files consisted in a .deb package06:04
lockdMasterShrek: yes but google talk has it's limits, it is a closed Jabber server06:04
Peloalla pleas don'T use the enter key as punctuation06:04
lockdMasterShrek: so you have to login by a google talk account06:05
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Peloalaa  pleas don'T use the enter key as punctuation06:05
alaaam  new here06:05
thoreauputicari_stress2: try dpkg -L <package>06:05
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ari_stress2thoreauputic: thanks :)06:05
thoreauputicalaa: we can tell :)06:05
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Gh0stGeek_: Um, just wondering - You say to partition using widows then reboot fom CD to install. But, what about this thread: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing In which they suggest partioning from Ubuntu CD?06:05
alaawait06:05
Pelothoreauputic,  don'T be cheeky06:05
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, just tell me how to connect with you on googlechat06:05
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thoreauputicPelo: :P06:05
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MISTERTibbsJKirk_: u have GAIM under the internet menu06:06
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JKirk_k06:06
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KanRiNiNQuick question when someone's free.  How can i run a script at startup?  I tried placing sh /home/server/mhive.sh in the Sessions but it didn't work06:06
alaathen it will work after that06:06
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: connect using whatever IM chat you have06:06
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JKirk_MISTERTibbs, I don't use one... recommendations?06:06
Peloalaa,  when you talk to someone in a busy channel it help is you type their nick in each line06:06
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: msn??06:06
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JKirk_ewww06:06
astro76ari_stress2, you'll find this page usefull ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto06:06
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alaaok pelo06:06
alaapelo06:06
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alaapelo thanks06:07
alaalol06:07
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lockdIs pidgin available as a backport?06:07
lockdfor feisty06:07
Peloalaa,  you won't need to re-enable the repositories again,  you now have all the standard ones06:07
alaapelo you are really so nice06:07
muhammadapt-get : couldnot find KDE package06:07
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dgeorgehey guys with xchat how do i open another server window06:07
KanRiNiNAnyone?06:07
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thoreauputicmuhammad: try kubuntu-desktop if you want to install KDE06:08
alaapelo: it is downloading06:08
lockdI could care less for the gtk version but libpurple and finch06:08
alaapelo: and what about yahoo06:08
Pelolockd,  doesn'T change the packages in the repos during a distro,  it only add update and upgrade,  gaim was the default when 7.04 came out06:08
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IdleOnedgeorge, click on Xchat in top left corner06:08
MISTERTibbsmuhammad: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:08
Peloalaa, yahoo what ?06:08
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alaaMSN06:08
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MISTERTibbsJKirk_: u have msn??06:08
alaapelo: yahoo messnger06:08
lockdPelo: but I can install it with a regular deb, correct?06:08
JKirk_nope06:09
dgeorgeIdleone and...06:09
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FalstiusKanRiNiN: put it in /etc/rcS.d06:09
alaapelo plz open the private06:09
Peloalaa, you'd have to know what the alternative is,  I'm not familiar with instant msging apps06:09
Pelolockd,  you should06:09
Peloalaa, no06:09
sloucherAnyone experienced this? I'm log into a remote computer with ssh. When I do a command with a lot of output such as ps -ef - I loose the connection. Anyone know what I should start to look at?06:09
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astro76!pm | alaa06:09
ubot3alaa: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.06:09
IdleOnedgeorge, look under New. dont be affraid to try stuff dude :)06:09
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, trying to get msn...asking me to download livemessenger...I assume that won't work in X?06:09
dgeorgethere is no new though06:09
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astro76dgeorge, are you using xchat or xchat-gnome ?06:10
muhammadkubuntu-desktop not found06:10
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MISTERTibbsJKirk_: true.  if you have yahoo that might work as well06:10
dgeorgexchat-gnome06:10
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IdleOneahhh06:10
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, I don't have ANY im software...06:10
alaapelo :06:10
Peloalaa,  I think gaim handles yahoo , but I amm not sure06:10
JKirk_never had the need for it before06:10
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MISTERTibbsJKirk_: go with yahoo.  avoid msft.06:11
dgeorgeIdleOne is there a better irc chat out there....06:11
zaxor1I am using a inspiron 600m with a ati mobility 9000 video card. but when I switch the laptop to the vga out the screen is black, can anyone tell me why?06:11
scipioyes gaim has both yahoo and msn06:11
alaait gave me a wrong  message after it was downloaded06:11
Peloalaa,  do you see how I type my lines when I am talking to you,  do the same06:11
MISTERTibbsmuhammad: retype.  I just found it no problelm06:11
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astro76dgeorge, not sure I really don't like that one :)06:11
Peloalaa,  what was the error msg you got ?06:11
IdleOnedgeorge, depends who you ask but not really06:11
IdleOnedgeorge, type /join #xchat and ask them I am not sure06:11
dgeorgeastro76 and Idelone what are you gall using06:11
alaapelo: it gave me a worng message after it was downloaded06:11
zaxor1I am using a inspiron 600m with a ati mobility 9000 video card and i am using the "ati" drivers (according to my xorg). but when I switch the laptop to the vga out the screen is black, can anyone tell me why?06:11
Peloalaa,  what was the error msg you got ?06:11
astro76dgeorge, plain xchat06:11
alaapelo just a sec06:11
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muhammadMISTERTIbbs: what is your version, mine is 5.1006:12
KanRiNiNFalstius: What if the script is in mhive , and is essentially a directory for a the server?06:12
eddie_I <3 porn06:12
MISTERTibbsmuhammad: version of what??06:12
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KanRiNiNperhaps I can just edit the $tools:launcher.jar to read $tools:/home/server/mhive/launcher.jar06:12
jose__hola.. alguien  que hable espanol? spanish?06:12
IdleOneubuntu 5.1006:12
Peloeddie_,  this is a support channnel, please keep it family freindly06:12
thoreauputic!es06:12
Pelo!es | jose__06:12
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, on yahoo.com... I don't see IM06:12
eddie_otay :)06:12
alaapelo:  E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 306:12
alaaE: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured06:12
alaaE: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured06:12
IdleOneMISTERTibbs, he needs to enable repos06:12
FalstiusKanRiNiN: no idea, I have never head of mhive.06:12
astro76dgeorge, btw, do not ask about xchat-gnome in #xchat, I hear they are not too fond of it06:12
muhammadyour ubuntu06:13
alaapelo : what is that06:13
Pelojose__,  /join #ubuntu-es06:13
dgeorgetoo late06:13
ubot3Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:13
JKirk_wait...found it I think06:13
ubot3jose__: please see above06:13
jose__ok thanks06:13
astro76dgeorge, lol ;)06:13
thoreauputicjose__:  /join #ubuntu-es06:13
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JKirk_does it work in nix?06:13
dgeorgelol06:13
KanRiNiNFalstius: I got sick of gnump3d not reading any files correctly :-)06:13
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: go to gaim and set up your chat.  if you have yahoo it's the same as your login to the email06:13
alaapelooooooooooooooooo?06:13
MISTERTibbsIdleOne: thanks06:13
Peloalaa,  I think you closed the package manager before the installation was finished06:13
JKirk_I don't have a yahoo mail... I've got a google mail06:13
MISTERTibbsmuhammad: u need to enable repositories06:13
alaapelo: i did nottttttttt06:13
Peloalaa, please be a little more patient06:13
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: only 1 email account??06:14
alaapelo i fell so stupid06:14
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, that and my isp email06:14
IdleOnemuhammad, use this link to enable the repositories https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu06:14
alaapelo : i was trying to install the msn from morning06:14
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Peloalaa,  try again then , or try using   menu > applications > add/remove and search for amsn in there,  close synaptic first if you do that06:14
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: ok.  easy to set one up and that will give u im.06:14
muhammadMISTERTibbs: I know how to enable the repositories on Suse, but Ubuntu is new for me06:14
Peloalaa,  you are not stupid you are learning06:14
MISTERTibbsmuhammad: wait one06:14
dgeorgehey guys do you have any screen shots of your desktop posted up somewhere06:15
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alaaPelo : i am a computer manager for a computer company and that is the first time am using that ubntoooooo06:15
IdleOnemuhammad, MISTERTibbs  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu06:15
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alaapelo: windows xp serv pack too is much easier06:16
MISTERTibbsIdleOne: thanks.06:16
IdleOnenp06:16
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alaapelo : but i love  the now things06:16
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Peloalaa, these will come in handy   http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/06:16
huntekehey, to anyone who uses thunderbird or evolution: is there a way to automatically collect Thunderbirds message filters that I've set up?  Or do I have to manually recreate them in Evolution06:16
MISTERTibbsmuhammad: system>administration>software sources06:16
Peloalaa,  what is your native language ?06:16
pramzhunteke, you have to manually recreate them06:16
huntekepramz: durn, but thanks06:16
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kyncaniIdleOne: you sure ? Bots keep getting abused ;)06:16
alaapelo : that ubntu things is great so fast but so complicated06:17
thoreauputicIdleOne: it's over-rated ( I'm a bot and I can tell you ;-) )06:17
huntekedurn is now the new spelling of damn, btw06:17
pramzhunteke, and personally I prefer thunderbird, seems to handle folders with lots of messages better than evolution06:17
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huntekeah06:17
IdleOnethoreauputic, and kyncani  :)06:17
alaapelo: wait let me do this again06:17
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: still there??06:17
Peloalaa,  you'll get the hang of it eventualy, it's not that complicated06:17
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huntekepramz, It's my mail client of choice too but I need a calendar client06:17
huntekethat plays well with iCal06:17
huntekeand I thought I'd check out evolution06:17
alaapelo: there is a green mark on it what is that means06:17
pramzhunteke, thunderbird + lightning06:17
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, ok... in gaim yahoo now06:17
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alaapelo : is it installed or what?06:18
huntekelightning?  oh! I have heard of that06:18
Peloalaa,  it means the package is installed,06:18
pramzhunteke, I use it with calendar actually. Evolution does not do caldav properly06:18
Peloalaa,  try right click , reinstall06:18
huntekegood to know, good to know06:18
alaapelo then how i get to it06:18
bullgard4I am looking for a better alternatve for OO.o Base. The OO. Base frontend does not provide a keyboard shortcut for 'Go to the next record', 'Go to the last record', 'Go to the previous record'. The 'Search for a record' keyboard shortcut Ctrl+F only opens if the cursor is prevously placed at certain screen areas. 43000 records, GUI mandatory.06:18
Peloalaa,  should be in the menu,  > applications > internet06:18
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, are you offline right now?06:18
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: seattlechaz@hotmail.com06:19
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alaawooooooooooooooooooooooooooow06:19
alaapelooooooo: thans man06:19
Peloalaa,  stop that it'sr realy annoying06:19
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Peloalaa,  and you are welcome06:19
alaapelo am thanking you and you tell me it is annoying06:19
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thoreauputicalaa: red a bit about netiquette please06:19
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: yahoo ID??06:19
alaapelo : am angry06:19
sloucherAnyone experienced this? I'm log into a remote computer with ssh. When I do a command with a lot of output such as ps -ef - I loose the connection. Anyone know what I should start to look at?06:19
thoreauputicalaa: IRC has its own rules06:20
huntekealaa: regarding winxp serv pack being easier and ubuntu being complicated, I might point out that it's because  you don't know it, and you are familiar with WinXP06:20
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Peloalaa,  the caracter repeats are annoying06:20
alaapelo : thank you buddy06:20
JKirk_jkirkn06:20
Peloalaa,  share and enjoy06:20
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: send me ID so I can add buddy06:20
JKirk_I tried adding mistertibbs06:20
alaapelo now how i get the yahooo msn06:20
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: seattlechaz@hotmail.com06:20
alaaPelo . how can i install yahoo msn06:21
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: send u id06:21
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Peloalaa,  you have msn,  I think gaim handles yahoo, but I am not sure,  check in the applicatiosn menu06:21
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, ??? jkirkn@yahoo.com that?06:21
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: wait06:21
IdleOnePelo, it does06:21
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alaapelo i donot like gaim06:21
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huntekesloucher: no, haven't experienced that, but I have experienced a cracked box refusing to do certain things06:22
huntekelike ls of certain directories06:22
huntekeand ps or top commands06:22
alaapelo isnot there any other way to install yahoo06:22
Pelothank you idle, I know nothing about instant msging applications,  they are the spawn of the devil06:22
Kent_gaim handles yahoo chat, no cam / mic support though06:22
alaaPeelo thanks again man06:22
Peloalaa,  I do not know,  look in www.ubuntuforums.org, search for it  see if anything comes up06:22
IdleOnePelo, indeed they are but my kids like them so I check them out also06:22
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alaaPelo : you know how to use that terminal thing?06:23
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Peloalaa,  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php06:23
IdleOnePelo, they are overrated lol06:23
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sloucherhunteke: that's a thought. It's onlly when there's long output though. Like ps -u will work because it's only a couple of lines.06:23
IdleOnehehe that terminal thing06:24
kyncaniPelo: IdleOne is now a bot, hence his kids surely are little linux boxens06:24
royelHey, I'm looking to setup a PDC with roaming profiles, clients will be both linux and win(xp), I'm confused about whether to use NFS or Samba, I've read something about samba not liking roaming profiles, perhaps someone could confirm this or knows of a good tutorial on this exact thing?06:24
huntekesloucher: huh.  not sure what to tell you.  I assume you've googled?06:24
PeloIdleOne,  I remember when I taught swimming I had to keep up on the saturday morning kids shows so I could relate to my pupils06:24
huntekeyou might get on the openssh mailing list and ask06:24
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thoreauputicIdleOne: terminal case I fear ;)06:24
TwombyAnybody here familiar with truecrypt and Forcefield ?06:24
sloucherhunteke: googling now06:25
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huntekelet me know what you find, eh sloucher? I'd be curious06:25
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, you still here?06:25
IdleOnethoreauputic, :) Pelo kyncani we should all know better then to be offtopic :)06:25
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: coldaloof@yahoo.com06:25
PeloTwomby,  I'm going out on a limb here but I assume they have channels06:25
hunteke(but not curious enough to do the work myself, I suppose!)06:25
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alaaPELO : thanks buddy06:25
TwombyPelo : Can't find any... :/06:25
thoreauputic:)06:25
PeloIdleOne,  we're safe the op is on our siide06:25
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w30Pelo, ha, when I became a grandfather I got introduced to SpongeBob and TeleTubbies etc.06:26
ZelestFor some reason, Ubuntu puts my NIC into 10mbit half-duplex.. I've had it using 100mbit full-duplex in both Windows and FreeBSD.. why is this and how can I change it? I tried "sudo ifconfig eth0 media 100baseTX" and got "port: SIOCSIFMAP: Operation not supported" .. what does that mean?06:26
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IdleOnePelo, true06:26
PeloTwomby,  google for their site  they might have a faq or a forum06:26
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, doesn't work :( won't let me add that06:26
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IdleOnew30, telletubbies is evil. dont let the kids watch it06:26
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, says it's not on the serverlist06:26
IdleOneon that note...goodnight folks06:26
scipioTwomby: i installed trucrypt following a howto in the forums. works ok06:26
Twombyyeah, been there, done that, I guess I'll just have to be a little more patient : ) Thanks though !06:26
Pelow30,  you have my sympaties,  but it's fun to see them smile mind06:26
w30IdleOne, Jerry Farwell sure didn't like it.06:26
Pelog'night IdleOne06:26
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MISTERTibbsJKirk_: run gaim.  add your yahoo account add me to buddy list and send message06:27
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JKirk_MISTERTibbs, k... just tried06:27
IdleOnew30, any show that speaks to your children like they are idiots is evil... I want my kids speaking a REAL language and not making stupid sounds all day long06:27
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Twombyscipio : I installed it fine too.  I created a volume under Windows, but can't access it under ubuntu06:28
IdleOneok now Im out06:28
kahrytanAnyone know where I can get zlib package?06:28
IdleOnenight to all and happy Ubuntu'ing06:28
PeloIdleOne,  how do you feel about shows that talk to adults like they are idots ? we've just covered most of network and cable tv06:28
royelPelo: lol06:28
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=== w30 's computer won't reboot. It will shutdown ok but it won't start back up on the reboot command. Any ideas where to turn?
kyncanikahrytan: apt-cache search -n zlib ?06:29
scipioTwomby: i have the exact same setup but it works for me. sadly i don't know much about how i made it to work.06:29
canerthere is a problem with the scim input method. i writes normal latin alphabet in some programs and uses a weird alphabet in some programs. how can i set it stable to normal english alphabet?06:29
royelw30: dont turn it off06:29
scipioTwomby: so i guess i can't help you much more than to confirm that it's possible06:29
astro76!info zlib1g | kahrytan this one?06:29
ubot3kahrytan this one?: zlib1g: compression library - runtime. In component main, is required. Version 1:1.2.3-13ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 172 kB06:29
ZelestAnyone? :(06:29
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JKirk_MISTERTibbs, ??? do you get the msg?06:30
kahrytanastro76: the one clamav needs06:30
PeloZelest,  anyone what ?06:30
Twombyscipio : Thanks, I know I'll get it to work someday.. I was rather looking for a shortcut instead of having to read a lot, I'm in a little hurry :)06:30
RprpI just made my USB bootable with feisty (This how-to: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/ubuntu-feisty-on-your-usb-drive-finally/) but, is it possible to 'install' ubuntu on a USB drive? SO i can run apache, mysql, and php ?06:30
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: wait06:30
w30royel, it's one of those stupid hp jobs.06:30
Pelow30,  the graphical one is not an aption i take it ?06:30
royelw30: what command are you issuing, or are you using the reboot button from within a DE?06:30
ZelestPelo, Who knows why Ubuntu can't use my realtek card in 100mbit full-duplex when both Windows and FreeBSD can.. :(06:30
scipioTwomby: good luck :)06:30
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astro76kahrytan, that's the one then, should be auto installed when you install clamav, in fact it should be installed by default in feisty06:30
kyncanikahrytan: if you install clamav, it will automatically pull in zlib1g06:31
J-_!xorg06:31
ubot3The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:31
The_Band-aidZelest: do you have the correct drivers installed06:31
Twombyscipio : Do you use the Gui (Forcefield) or the command line interfaace ?06:31
w30royel, all of them the graphical and or the command line "reboot"06:31
PeloZelest, probably jsut a config thing, look up the card model in the forum and see if there are any instrucions06:31
kahrytanastro76: compiling it.06:31
scipioTwomby: command line06:31
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EJim looking for a web interface for MySQL to use with Feisty, any suggestions other than webmin ?06:31
jmghey all06:31
kahrytanastro76: I prefer to keep antivirus updated06:31
royelw30: certainly won't make a difference I'm sure, but maybe try: sudo shutdown -r now06:31
jmg!dvdrip06:31
scipioTwomby: basically i only use one command to mount the volume since i created it in windows using gui06:31
Twombyscipio : let's say I have a volue mounted on sda606:32
ZelestThe_Band-aid, No clue.. I use the default kernel.06:32
Twomby*a volume06:32
w30royel, shutdown works just fine graphical and command line06:32
ZelestPelo, Will do.06:32
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Twombyhow would you do it  with a command line ?  I tried via forcefield but to no avail.  I can't quite grasp all the logic, I feel a little stupid ;)06:32
Pelog'night folk06:32
royelw30: shutdown -r  gives the flag to reboot06:32
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: i sent pm on yahoo06:32
Twombyg'night Pelo !06:32
JKirk_how do I install the "plugins" to allow dvd playback in movie player or gxine?06:32
RprpI just made my USB bootable with feisty (This how-to: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/ubuntu-feisty-on-your-usb-drive-finally/) but, is it possible to 'install' ubuntu on a USB drive? SO i can run apache, mysql, and php ?06:32
w30royel, errr I never tried shutdown -r ; Is that a reboot command?06:33
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alaapello:06:33
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, didn't get it :(06:33
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alaagood night06:33
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: sorry.  ok we do this here.06:33
alaapelo: thanks again06:33
astro76!dvd | JKirk_06:33
ubot3JKirk_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:33
astro76JKirk_, libdvdcss2 is what you need06:33
alaaANY one knows how to download java for games06:33
scipioTwomby: give me one minute please to reboot in linux to give you the exact syntax :)06:33
scipiobrb06:33
astro76!java | alaa06:34
ubot3alaa: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository06:34
royelw30: it's a bit of an overkill for a single user system since I'm sure you know it's rebooting, but yes ": shutdown -r now" broadcasts a message to users an -r flags to reboot.06:34
kahrytan!medibuntu | jkirk06:34
ubot3jkirk: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/06:34
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JKirk_MISTERTibbs, it says you are offline06:34
The_Band-aidjKirk_: you'll have to download the package manually off that guy's website and install it using dpkg -i06:34
MISTERTibbsJKirk_: wait.06:34
Twombyscipio : That would be greatly appreciated !!!!!06:34
alaaubunto3: thanks06:34
kahrytanJKirk_: Use Medibuntu.06:34
J-_How much video memory does a nvidia geforce fx5200 have?06:34
EJim looking for a web interface for MySQL to use with Feisty, any suggestions other than webmin ?06:34
kahrytanJ-_: Mine has 128mb06:34
jmgJ-_: mine as 64mb06:34
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J-_...06:35
MISTERTibbsmy yahoo/gaim status is available06:35
kahrytanjmg: haha06:35
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w30royel, when I issue the reboot command the box won't restart and I have to crawl under my desk and pull the plug.06:35
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JKirk_mediabuntu?06:35
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royelw30: lol, what a pain :)06:35
JKirk_medibuntu?06:35
kahrytanjmg: I got MSI fx5200 with 128mb06:35
astro76EJ, phpmyadmin06:35
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kahrytan!medibuntu | JKirk_06:35
ubot3JKirk_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/06:35
w30royel, but the box stays lit up06:35
jmgkahrytan: pci here06:35
royelw30: might be worth looking in the bios06:36
alaaAnyone knows how to use the  terminal06:36
kahrytanjmg: AGP06:36
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EJ[ astro76] : i have phpmyadmin installed, does that allow me to create mysql databases via web interface ?06:36
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westonhey guys, how do i tell if I have i386 or 64 bit installed of ubuntu?06:36
kahrytanJKirk_: I just reinstalled and medibuntu is a real help06:36
astro76EJ, indeed06:36
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wnetGay_cari_cowok06:36
alaai wanna exctract  amsn program i downloaded  in terminal06:36
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The_Band-aidalaa: what format is it06:37
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astro76alaa, I thought pelo helped you successfully install amsn through synaptic??06:37
cablesI accidentally ended up with no home directory on this new system I'm setting up. How do I create it in recovery mode?06:37
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MISTERTibbsJKirk_: i have yahoo happy face.  send message06:37
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royelw30: for some reason I am thinking of that "soft power-off" option, or something similiarly named could be of some trouble, And then I've been known to be wrong... a couple times.06:38
JKirk_MISTERTibbs, oh..I wasn't activated I guess06:38
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MISTERTibbsJKirk_: :)06:38
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astro76cables, try useradd06:39
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scipioTwomby, ok it's easy: trucrypt /mnt/shared/xxxx /mnt/tc         (the /mnt/shared/xxxx is the location and name of the volume you want to mount)06:39
cablesastro76, ok, thanks06:39
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westonhey guys how dio i find out if i have i386 ubuntu or amd 64 ubuntu unstalled?06:39
kyncaniweston: apt-cache show --installed linux, look at the architecture field06:39
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w30royel, you are thinking soft power off option in bios somewhere?06:40
skryptCan someone link me to a How To on upgrading from pidgin 2.0.1 to pidgin 2.106:41
royelw30: yes, might be of no use, but can't hurt to look.06:41
bullgard4What is meant by 'environment' in man env: "Set each NAME to VALUE in the environment and run COMMAND."?06:41
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w30royel, or are you thinking of a Ubuntu config file womewhere?06:41
mttrcan't seem to get hybernate or sleep to work on my feisty on a p5b deluxe mb06:42
royelw30: in the bios06:42
alaaHelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllp06:42
alaaAnyone plzzzzzzzzz06:42
w30royel, when I leave #ubuntu I will check that, thanks06:42
Twombyscipio : Thanks a lot !! I'll give it a try in a few minutes, and I'll give you some news !! I really appreciate it !!06:42
alaawhat does this message  means Could not open the file /home/alaa/Desktop/jre-6u2-linux-i586-rpm(2).bin.06:42
scipioTwomby, no problem06:42
astro76bullgard4, printenv will show the "environment variables"06:42
alaaHOW CAN I EXCTRACT IT06:42
royelalaa: normally the first thing I do when someone comes in spamming useless text as yourself is ignore them, you were lucky tonite an got a bit of my bad mood.06:43
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astro76alaa, java is also available in synaptic06:43
royelw30: hopefully it will be of some use, gl06:43
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alaaastro : thanks06:43
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alaaastro?06:43
alaaAstro : not because you know and  we donot know  you trat us as a teacher06:44
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alaaAstro: thanks again but plz donot ignore me06:44
firebird619Is there something that can be put into .asoundrc to get sound from both hw:0,0 and hw:0,1 at the same time?06:44
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royelalaa: you've downloaded a red hat package, use synaptic or apt-get.06:44
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royel!java | alaa06:44
ubot3alaa: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository06:44
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alaaAstro: am lost in that site you gave me06:45
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astro76alaa, just go to synaptic and search for sun-java6-jre and install it06:45
alaaAstro: i think i will shoot myu self06:45
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alaaAstro : thanks buddy06:45
w30alaa, I think you have type sh /home/alaa/Desktop/jre-6u2-linux-i586-rpm(2).bin06:46
RprpI just made my USB bootable with feisty (This how-to: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/ubuntu-feisty-on-your-usb-drive-finally/) but, is it possible to 'install' ubuntu on a USB drive? SO i can run apache, mysql, and php ?06:46
gaasalaa: can also do 'apt-cache search sun-java6-jre'06:46
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westonwhats the diff between sun java 5 and 6?06:46
zoexiiwhat is the command to display my ip address?06:46
alaaPPl: plz yellow ppl i am lost what shall i doo06:46
astro76w30, no reason to install a java rpm06:46
royelzoexii: ifconfig06:46
zoexiiroyel, cool,06:46
zoexiithanks06:46
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gaasRprp: have you checked out portableapps.com ?06:47
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TwombyRprp : I'm curious as to why you would like to run apache off a usb drive?06:47
astro76alaa, what is the problem?06:47
gaaszoexii: ifconfig (as root or sudo)06:47
alaaAm Losst06:47
w30alaa or else chmod ugoa+x <the bin file name>  then just type the file name06:47
JKirk_kahrytan, I followed the repository how-to on medibuntu ... now what?06:47
RprpTwomby: Im gonna take a holiday, And i want to test some PHP files etc ...06:47
astro76alaa, what is the problem?06:47
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w30alaa, you are on an rpm distro? right?06:47
astro76he's on ubuntu!06:47
cablesHow do I find the permissions of a folder from the terminal, then apply them to another folder with a similar format?06:48
gaasRprp: portableapps  gives you a portable XAMPP server on a usb stick06:48
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alaaAstro: am new her and this is really getting me so crazy from morning tell now and am tryoing to type in that termnial thing06:48
royelI assumed he is on Ubuntu asking support questions in a ubuntu support channel :)06:48
TwombyRprp : I see!!  I'm no experience user here, I was simply curious :)06:48
jetolehey guys, I am trying to grab the ubuntu kernel source code with apt-get source linux-image-generic and apt is giving me errors such as this => Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-meta_2.6.20.16.28.1.dsc  Could not open file linux-meta_2.6.20.16.28.1.dsc - open (2 No such file or directory)06:48
alaaWhat rpmmmmm06:48
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jetoledoes anyone know why, I did a apt-get update first and it's not telling me that it's an unknown package06:48
kahrytanJKirk_: Did you install packages?06:48
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alaaAstro : this is the very first time am using this ubunto06:48
astro76alaa, forget the rpm, you opened synaptic before right? system>admin>synaptic package manager06:48
w30alaa, if you are on Ubuntu distro just delete that file and get a .deb package06:48
royelcables: ls -l06:48
cablesroyel, thanks06:49
alaaAstro i did06:49
cablesroyel, how do i apply those in a similar format?06:49
alaaAstro : i did open it06:49
astro76alaa, ok go there again, hit search, and enter sun-java6-jre06:49
JKirk_kahrytan, do I do it with synaptics?06:49
zoexiiok, hi, I want to let someone on the other side of the internet use my machine via vncviewer, but my machine is behind a cablemodem/router, do I give them the IP address of the modem for them to connect?06:49
kahrytanJKirk_: Yes06:49
astro76alaa, then check it, and click Apply to install06:49
alaasearshing06:50
astro76alaa, also please read this guide06:50
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astro76!synaptic | alaa06:50
ubot3alaa: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto06:50
gaaszoexii: yes.  also setup the router to direct vnc traffic to the linux box06:50
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linux_i can replave gnome with kde ?06:50
alaaastro: what is that termial thing06:50
JKirk_what do I install?06:50
kahrytanJKirk_: You can use apt-get in console too.06:50
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royelcables: it's a bit confusing maybe.. but: sudo chmod ### /file/folder <-- where ### is replaced by the number of the permissions you wish to give06:50
zoexiigaas, this is called port forwarding? how do I know the port for vnc?06:50
astro76!terminal | alaa06:50
ubot3alaa: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:50
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JKirk_should I do a search on restricted?06:51
aldinhi, can someone tell me what ! and x mean in /etc/group06:51
kyncanilinux_: install packages kubuntu-desktop and kde and you're done06:51
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olrraido u know a program to edit an ISO image?06:51
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zoexiigaas, and that would be modem firmware settings yes?06:51
Kumaruis there any good channel for Wine help?06:51
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gaaszoexii: ususually 5900 or 5901.  see man page06:51
linux_kyncani , in kde i will have all my pakages that i have installed wirh synaptic ?06:51
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alaaAstro: they are typing so fast  i could not read what you wrote06:51
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gaaszoexii: modem 'firmware' - actually firewall06:52
rosensturmIs there a way to save the color settings I make using the nvidia x server settings dailog? When I restart or when the screensaver runs, the color settings go back to default.06:52
skryptwhat's the command to get the build essentials?06:52
kyncanilinux_: yes, but if you're using kde, you might consider using kde apps rather than gnome apps, they're better integrated with the desktop06:52
alaaAstro ? in system tools there is root terminal06:52
alaaAstro : what is root and normal06:52
zoexiigaas, ok, but I change firewall settings in the modem firmware, or does Ubuntu have a default firewall too?06:52
kahrytanJKirk_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu06:52
gaasskrypt: apt-get install build-essential06:52
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SyNiKrosensturm: run "sudo nvidia-settings" then save the configuration file before exiting, this should save your color settings on reboot.06:53
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astro76alaa, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo06:53
kahrytanJKirk_: Follow that link and instructions (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu)06:53
|_ockeit seems since i upgraded to feisty i no longer have getty and therefore have no login prompt on ctrl-alt-f1-606:53
gaaszoexii: usually with some web front end accessed by navigating to http://192.168.0.1 (or something like that)06:53
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|_ockeand tehrefore cant login to the system except in kdm or in recovery mode (which works fine)06:53
|_ockehowever i cant install nvidia drivers in recovery mode06:53
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weredragonDoes Ubuntu, create a harddrive partition, when installed.  So when you boot up the computer you have a choice about which OS to run.  If so does it keep all of your old files on the original OS?06:54
gaasweredragon: yes06:54
weredragonThank you :)06:54
alaaAsro : am sorry for giving you hard time  but you are ppl so wounderfull06:54
rosensturmSyNiK, I see nothing about saving a configuration file.06:54
Kumarugaas seriously?06:54
|_ockealso, i have no /etc/inittab06:54
gaasKumaru: yes... you just need to kind of know what you are doing when you set up the partitions06:55
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alaaastro : you and pelo are my best ubunto friends06:55
astro76|_ocke, ubuntu uses upstart now06:55
JKirk_kahrytan, I've got libdvdcss2 installed already... but totem movie player won't play dvd :(06:55
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Kumarugaas: i see06:55
gaasweredragon: have you performed the install already?06:55
weredragongaas: No.06:55
SyNiKrosensturm: i haven't got nvidia-settings in front of me, but its there, something like save settings to xorg configuration file or something, but you need to run it as "su" (root) so that it has the permissions to edit that file.06:55
kahrytanJKirk_: sudo apt-get install w32codecs06:55
kyncani|_ocke: upstart does not use inittab i think06:55
weredragonI was worried about loosing my files.06:55
gaasweredragon: first of all - back up all your important files on some other media.  Then..06:56
alaaAstro: you know the commands where i can use06:56
|_ockeastro76, what is upstart? and what does it have to do with no getty running and no possibility to login except in graphical mode?06:56
gaasweredragon: with that saftey net in place - go ahead and partition your hard drive06:56
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gaasbrb06:56
astro76|_ocke, it's a replacement for init: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/06:56
weredragonAnd thats where I am stumped.06:56
|_ockectrl-alt-f1 shows the startup messages, ending with a message about ALSA, which was the last before the gui loaded06:56
rosensturmSyNiK, I see it now but it doesn't seem to save anything about the color settings.06:56
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PenguinsaremyfriAnyone know where to get gdesklets? Their site is not working. Or a better widget alternative if there is one06:57
scipioweredragon,  if you don't have the partitions already done it's best to backup data before doing that. only because partitioning a hard with data on it may cause data loss. run a disk defrag so all your data it's on one end of the hard06:57
alaaAstro friend:06:57
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MasterShrekPenguinsaremyfri, screenlets06:57
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astro76|_ocke, and has nothing to do with getty not running06:57
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MasterShrek!screenlets | Penguinsaremyfri06:57
ubot3Factoid screenlets not found06:57
JKirk_when I try gxine I get an error about no demuxer06:57
|_ockehmm.. why could getty not be running after upgrading to 7.04?06:57
PenguinsaremyfriOk, I will look at that one. Thanks06:57
bullgard4astro76: Thank you for your answer. But I would like to know what Linux considers that 'environment variables' are. Other operationg systems understand 'environment variables' differently.06:57
DankmizterIm a 100% new user to Linux os. Im using Ubuntu 7.04. where is a good place to learn what I can do with linux06:57
weredragonscipio: Ah ok.  Because right now I have ubuntu running on a virtual machine, before I was going to go ahead and install it.06:58
Dankmizterthe help file just leads me in circles.06:58
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SyNiKrosensturm: it should do, i havent tried it recently but make sure you are running it with sudo and test to see if the settings are still there after an X restart (ctrl+alt+backspce).06:58
|_ockei really really need to be able to login without x running :P06:58
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|_ockeif i manually kill it or stop kdm from running on startup, i simply cant login and it sits on the last message before it would load normally06:58
kahrytanJKirk_:  You install gstreamer codecs yet?06:58
LuiCalhello guys, i need technical support with openoffice, please help06:58
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scipioweredragon, yes, basically the partioning process is what might cause data loss. after that is done you just point the ubuntu install to the right partion and it won't touch your windows stuff06:59
Twombyscipio : Everything works fine !!! Thanks a bunch !!!!!06:59
JKirk_found the answer ...had to install libxine1-ffmpeg06:59
alaaAsro : thanks for your wounderfull help06:59
scipioTwomby, excellent :)06:59
gaasweredragon: depending on how your files are distributed throughout your harddrive will you be able to split up your hard drive well06:59
|_ockei can still switch between terminals with ctrl alt f1-6, but 2-6 are just blank with a cursor and 1 is the startup output06:59
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kahrytanJKirk_: You should grab VideoLAN (vlc)06:59
Kumaruwell, i just made the stupid mistake of hitting ctrl alt and backspace to see what would happen06:59
astro76bullgard4, that's basically it, a bunch of shell variables06:59
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weredragonThanks gaas and scipio, I'll go run the defrag.06:59
LuiCalplease help me with openoffice issues06:59
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kahrytanJKirk_: No nonsense video player. Doesnt rely on codecs installed.06:59
kyncani|_ocke: upstart should have provided the ttys i think. If not, look into /etc/event.d, the command line to get ttys are there06:59
weredragonAnd back up my files.06:59
SyNiKKumaru: lol, now you know ;)06:59
gaasweredragon: have you tried using a livecd just to make sure you really want to install ubunutu?06:59
JKirk_I've got vlc... first one I tried...works fine...but it's semi-transparent in full screen... looks wierd07:00
bullgard4astro76: Thank you.07:00
weredragongaas: Yes, I have ubuntu running on a virtual machine.07:00
weredragonI like it a lot.07:00
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astro76JKirk_, that's strange, vlc is a better choice for dvd, since it does menus and everything right07:00
|_ockekyncani, /etc/event.d/tty1 contains "start on runlevel 2 - 5, stop on 0 1 and 607:00
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astro76|_ocke, sounds right, then 'respawn' and 'exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1' ?07:01
gaasweredragon: virtual machine... on what operating system?07:01
|_ockeastro76, yes07:01
weredragonWindows.07:01
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Penguinsaremyfriscreenlets.org is not working either07:02
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gaasweredragon: hmm... is that with vmware?07:02
Annhi07:02
d0lph1nK1ngi installed network-manager vpnc plugin to connect to my schools Cisco IPSec VPN network for my mail.  thunderbird downloads my IMAP folders, but not any messages.  any ideas?07:02
KumaruVLC FTW07:02
m4st3rAnn//hi07:02
weredragonQuite correct.07:02
kyncani|_ocke: yes, so you should have had a tty as i understand it. Nevertheless, log into X, then ( sudo getty 38400 tty1 & ) should give you a tty07:02
|_ockei just tried running 'sudo exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1' manually and it said exec not found07:02
m4st3r  07:02
Ann07:02
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Ann 07:02
weredragonI tried two others, before I got one to work though.07:02
m4st3r07:02
royel|_ocke: I'm curious why you didnt use the server install flavor if you dont need the gui?07:02
rosensturmSyNiK, just tried, nothing.07:02
Ann  07:02
Ann?07:02
Ann..07:02
Geek_...07:02
m4st3r07:02
astro76!english | Ann m4st3r07:02
ubot3Ann m4st3r: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat07:02
|_ockeroyel, i didnt say i dont need the gui, i use the gui, and am trying to get my opengl support back07:03
m4st3r  ;;07:03
Annastro76 / okok07:03
SyNiKrosensturm: sorry bud, i'm fresh out of ideas07:03
royel|_ocke: ah07:03
|_ockebut i cannot install nvidia drivers without being in command mode with x stopped07:03
m4st3r       07:03
m4st3rastro76//sorry07:03
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hiroshiXis there korean chess for linux?07:03
Annum..07:03
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kyncani|_ocke: right ..07:03
|_ockekyncani, it worked! finally07:03
Annlinux?07:03
gaaswith my dabbling with virtual machines, there's definitley a performance hit.  You'll see it'll run much faster in "reality"07:03
kyncani|_ocke: how's that ?07:04
Hail_Spacecakedoes the livecd version of ubuntu come with the dd command?07:04
astro76|_ocke, that doesn't sound good, exec is a bash built-in07:04
alaaThanks Yellow ppl for helping me07:04
PenguinsaremyfriAnyone know a good desklet/widget engine07:04
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gaasAnn: yes ... we are discussing linux07:04
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|_ockeshould i change the line in event.d/tty1 to not include 'exec' since it doesnt seem to be working..07:04
AnnI'm sorry07:04
|_ockeand i dont u nderstand why it wouldnt exist either07:04
kyncani|_ocke: nope !07:04
weredragongaas: Yea, though I tried using QEMU, and Virtual Box.07:04
LuiCalplease help me with openoffice my issue, ive finally installed my printer and it works fine when i test it with CUPS, but when i try to print an openoffice document, a printer logo appears in my pannel for a few second and then disappears, and nothing happens, please help07:04
AnnDo you speak easily Please07:04
weredragonVMware seems to be a good virtual machine for it.07:04
|_ockei gotta get these drivers installed before something else screws up, ill brb07:04
kyncani|_ocke: exec is the marker for the command line upstart should run when the event appear07:04
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varun0gaas: AFAIK, if you use a newer proc with virtualization extensions, it's pretty close to realtime07:05
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hiroshiXis there chinese chess for linux?07:05
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gaasweredragon: Yup.. I used QEMU to run damnsmalllinux.07:05
ari_stresshiroshiX: what is chinese chess?07:05
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|_ockek back in a min07:05
gaasvarun0: I thought DSL was a little sluggish.  Maybe it's jjust my system07:05
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zoexiiok, so I think I set up port forwarding to let someone with vnc view my desktop, is there any good way to test if it works?07:06
hiroshiXit's similar to regular chess, but it has some different pieces and a different board layout... plus they are round pieces labeled with chinese characters07:06
PenguinsaremyfriAnyone know a good desklet/widget engine for linux?07:06
varun0gaas: DSL?07:06
CheeseGardenerI typed in sudo time fsck -p -f /dev/sdb1, but for some reason the terminal seems to be doing things, but isn't displaying any text or a time left.  Why is this???07:06
|_ockei logged in on tty1 and it says -bash: no job control in this shell07:06
gaasvarun0: damnsmalllinux.  I ran this distro of linux with QEMU07:06
LuiCalplease help me with my openoffice issue07:07
varun0gaas: ahhh.....sorry.....my bad.07:07
LuiCalplease07:07
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hiroshiXit's also called qianhong07:07
gaasvarun0: damnsmalllinux is a great portable distro07:07
varun0gaas: what proc do you have?07:07
kyncaniPenguinsaremyfri: gnome -> gdesklets, kde -> superkaramba. Don't like none of them though07:07
varun0gaas: haha......yea I've heard of it, just never heard it called DSL :-)07:07
CheeseGardenerDoes anyone know what is happening?  is it checking my drive?07:07
gaasvarun0: some cheapo AMD turion 64 processor07:07
hiroshiXxiangqi07:07
CheeseGardenerOr why perhaps it isn't displaying a time?07:07
IN1HIT|spatchEok07:07
scipioLuiCal, just an idea since i'm also kinda new but did you check if openoffice uses the right printer when it tries to print?07:08
thoreauputicCheeseGardener: as far as I know "time" only displays a time when the command finishes07:08
|_ockeok, in the shell i tried sudo NVIDIA-100whatever and it is not runnign and i cant ctrl c07:08
astro76CheeseGardener, I would guess it's running, time displays nothing until the command finishes07:08
Penguinsaremyfrithanks07:08
gaasvarun0: I know this is offtopic, but if you've got an old computer that you want to make usefull - DSL is the way to go07:08
CheeseGardeneroh ok astro07:08
LuiCalyeah, it is using the rigth printer07:08
rosensturmSyNiK, I see I just have to add "nvidia-settings -l" to my startup.07:08
CheeseGardenerthe command isn't displaying anything though, astro76.  It seems to be working though07:08
varun0gaas: so I've heard07:08
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IN1HIT|spatchEHow do I install my NVIDIA driver for a 6600gt07:08
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thoreauputic!nvidia07:09
ubot3To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:09
kyncani!nvidia | |_jocke07:09
ubot3|_jocke: please see above07:09
|_ockeok so, i came back to the gui terminal i launched the getty process from and i ctrl c fromt here07:09
LuiCalcan someone help me please? i cannot print openoffice docs07:09
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varun0gaas: never had a chance to try it. I have a P166 lying around, I should give it a shot07:09
gaasLuiCal: can you print with other applications?07:09
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CheeseGardenerastro76, as long as the light is going on the drive, then it is doing something to it right?07:10
LuiCalwell when i installed the drivers, cups made a test print, and it was fine07:10
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gaasvarun0: the really cool think about it is that they really found the best apps for a slow machine.. in the end, though - it was just a novelty for me07:10
astro76CheeseGardener, yeah07:10
Gh0stGeek_: I'm using the CD right now.07:10
|_ockekyncani, so, im not running gnome, im running kde, how can i get to the restricted driver manager?07:10
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Geek_Gh0st: liveCD?07:11
gaasLuiCal: Can you still successfully print a test page from CUPS?07:11
astro76|_ocke, you need to install the package restricted-manager07:11
[MooN] Do anybody have an idea why I cant see movie files while I use Beryl themes, but works fine when I use default Gnome theme?:)07:11
Gh0stGeeK_: I did what you said a partitioned using Vista. Then, booted Ubuntu via LiveCd. When I go to install on drive, I go to about step 4 when it goes into partioning.07:11
|_ockeoh hmm07:11
thoreauputic[MooN] : try a different driver ( X11 etc) in the preferences07:11
|_ockeE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.07:11
|_ockeperhaps that is my problem07:11
LuiCalyep i can07:11
[MooN] thoreauputic: Okay, thanks:)07:12
|_ockeim gonna let that finish and get a beer in the meantime07:12
Geek_Gh0st: at step 1, it mentions an alternate install method, does it not? you used that right?07:12
|_ockebrb07:12
scipioLuiCal, can you open the file with another aplication and try to print from there? maybe even convert it to pdf? or try to search on the forums for your specific printer to see if anyone else had the same problems07:12
thoreauputic[MooN] : various movie apps vary in their prefs07:12
Geek_(going off memory)07:12
Gh0stUm...Hold on. Let me see.07:12
LuiCallet me see07:13
skryptHow do I add stuff to the "start" menu07:13
MasterShrekskrypt, right click it07:13
Gh0stReady to install? Once you answer a few questions, the contents of the live CD can be installed on this computer so you can run the system at full speed and without the CD.07:13
Gh0stAnswering the questions should only take a few minutes.07:13
Gh0stPlease choose the language used for the installation process. This language will be the default language for the final system.07:13
Gh0stThat's what it says at step one.07:13
thoreauputicskrypt: right click, menu editor07:13
skryptty07:13
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scipioskrypt, go to system-preferences-main menu07:13
Gh0stAfter I choose English, it asks me to choose the time zone.07:14
scipioor that07:14
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scipio:)07:14
rivesi have 2 hard drives one master one slave one is running ubuntu(this reive and the other is blank and currently formatted to ntfs07:14
Gh0stAfter the time zone, it asks me to choose the type to keyboard.07:14
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rivesat the moment i dont have any permisions to save data and the second drive07:14
rivesi was wondering if i needed to refomat it or if any one knew how to reset the permissions on the other dive07:14
rivesits not as simple as right clicking07:14
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rivesunless im missing some thing07:15
kyncani!ntfs | rives07:15
ubot3rives: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:15
westonwhats the flash plugin for firefox?07:15
MasterShrekrives, is there a reason it is ntfs?07:15
Gh0stAfter keyboard, it goes into Partitioner. Now, I have two choices: Guided  use entire disk & Manual.07:15
rivesno07:15
Gh0stDo I choose Manual?07:15
MasterShrekmaking it a linux fs would be a better option07:15
astro76weston, flashplugin-nonfree07:15
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MasterShrekext3 never has to be defragmented07:15
rivesthe os(sin2k) failed and i tryed to reinstate file sys to recover07:15
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gaasrives: you need to give your self write permissions to the mount point, I think for starters.. Also - it should be mounted read-write in the /etc/fstab file07:15
orbisvicis!crontb07:15
ubot3Factoid crontb not found07:15
rives... it failed07:15
orbisvicis!crontab07:16
ubot3Factoid crontab not found07:16
rivesall data was lost07:16
orbisvicis!cron07:16
ubot3cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm07:16
SitheDoes anyone know if ATI Drivers mess up Ubuntu for good? Someone just told me that07:16
rivesthat i can deal with07:16
Geek_!ati07:16
ubot3To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:16
orbisvicisi hear a lot of people complain about ati drivers07:16
Geek_hmm07:16
orbisvicisthe fglx ones i mean07:16
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SitheI installed an ATI driver.. then uninstalled it then installed the fglx.. and now I dont have the right resolution07:17
Gh0stGeek_: I choose Manual, do I not?07:17
m4st3rWhen appear Ubuntu next version?07:17
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Geek_Gh0st: definately yes07:17
MasterShrekrives, if you add your user to the disk group, you will be able to read and write to it (if it isnt ntfs) if you want it to be ntfs you must install and configure ntfs-3g07:17
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astro76m4st3r, October, 7.10 = 10th month of 200707:18
MasterShrekwow what was warty? 4.10?07:18
Sithe installed an ATI driver.. then uninstalled it then installed the fglx.. and now I dont have the right resolution07:18
Bogus8why does a window go "black and white" but yet it's still functional?07:19
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MasterShrekthat will make exactly 3 years ive been using linux07:19
MasterShrek:)07:19
[MooN] Bogus8: It goes into zombie mode.07:19
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Bogus8[MooN] : and that means?07:19
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Gh0stGeeK_: I choose Manual. And... IT asks me to specify a partition for the root file system (mount point "/") with a minimum size of 2GB, and a swap partition of at least 256 MB.07:19
marginoferrorMasterShrek: Is there a "proper" way to use the FUSE ntfs r/w driver in Ubuntu?  Something that avoids manually editing fstab?07:19
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Sithe installed an ATI driver.. then uninstalled it then installed the fglrx.. and now I dont have the right resolution07:20
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p1lsyo whats a smiliar program to flasget?07:20
Geek_Gh0st: does it allow you to resize an excsisting partiton?07:20
astro76marginoferror, ntfs-config is a gui for ntfs-3g07:20
MasterShreki believe so marginoferror , just run ntfs-3g /dev/[device]  /mount/point      i think07:20
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Gh0stUm...As in Edit Partition?07:20
Gh0st*Geek_:07:21
orbisvicis!anaron07:21
ubot3Factoid anaron not found07:21
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orbisvicis!anacron07:21
ubot3anacron: a cron-like program that doesn't go by time. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3-11ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 236 kB07:21
marginoferrorOkay, I'll try those. Thanks astro76, MasterShrek07:21
p1lsyo whats a smiliar program to flasget?07:21
orbisvicis!atd07:21
ubot3Factoid atd not found07:21
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Geek_Gh0st: yeah. use it to split the linux partition as needed...07:22
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p1ls!atd07:22
ubot3Factoid atd not found07:22
Geek_then select mount points07:22
p1lsyo whats a smiliar program to flasget?07:22
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p1ls??!07:22
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Geek_p1ls: I use DTA on FF and wget (not a download accelerator but damn useful)07:22
p1lswhich one is with gui07:23
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Geek_DTA07:23
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Gh0stGeek_: Here's what it says when I choose to edit: 'New Partition size in Megabytes: 10485' 'Use as: ntfs' and 'Mount Point: /media/sda3'.07:23
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pmcnabbis it possible to initiate a pxe boot remotely?07:24
Geek_ghost: it has a slider?07:24
p1lshow to install it sudo apt-get install dta?07:24
Gh0stGeek_: Yes.07:24
Geek_p1ls: no, through firefox07:24
elfmageI have a question about drivers    I know ubuntu fins all the drivers for install but what about new hardware07:24
Geek_Gh0st: use that to resize. for swap and /07:24
Geek_then you can reformat in next step i think07:24
Gh0stGeek_: So, what do I do? I'm not really following. Step-by-step, if you could?07:25
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Geek_Gh0st: going off memory. use the slider to shrink the partition. create new partition. assign partitions to / and swap07:25
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CheeseGardenerCould someone help me decipher something terminal outputted?07:26
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p1lsi need one that will show u all files of a webisite07:26
kyncanielfmage: new hardware are either already more or less supported by existing drivers or will be supported in gutsy (or not supported at all ...)07:26
bullgard4What does 'MM' mean in the environment variable 'MM_CHARSET'?07:26
p1lsdoes ff dta does that?07:26
Geek_firefox/Down Them All ;)07:26
Gh0stGeek_: Ok. So, editing the partition I made in windows, I change the size to...How's 500MB for swap, and the rest for Root File system?07:27
CheeseGardenerI need some help trying to understand a 'fsck' report that terminal prompted me with...07:27
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Geek_p1ls: err... wget will grab everything. DTA grabs all links07:27
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Geek_Gh0st: rule of thumb is 2x ram for swap unless you have a lot of ram07:27
|_ockek its still setting up packages, i bet that was the problem :P07:28
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Gh0stGeek_: So...256 x2 = 512 MB for Swap?07:28
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luyisssss07:28
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Geek_yeah07:28
=== |_ocke has 512 ram, 4gb swap
Geek_too much swap is wasteful07:28
|_ockeGh0st, i recommend more for that small amount of ram07:28
p1lsgeek what about one that shows u files of website07:28
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CheeseGardenerCould someone help me read a 'fsck' report quickly?  it won't take long07:29
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Gh0stGeek_: You mean 2x the amount of MY ram?07:29
|_ockei had problems when i had 512, i imagine 768 would have made as much difference as 4gb, but i just was sick and tired of waiting 10 mins for it to swap data in and out of swap and mem07:29
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Frenchie:)07:29
astro76Gh0st, yeah 1GB would be good for your swap07:29
n2diyCheeseGardener: pastebin it for us.07:29
CheeseGardenerk brb07:29
kyncani|_ocke: buy more ram07:29
ameyerI have 128 MB of RAM and 298 MB of swap  on my lappy o_O07:29
p1lsgeek what about one that shows u files of website07:29
|_ockekyncani, i dont buy computer equipment07:29
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ameyerapparently that's the way Debian automagically does things07:30
Gh0stAstro: >.< Haha. Um..How do I find my RAM? I forgot how much it was on this laptop.07:30
|_ockemostly because i dont need to as i get all the stuff i need for free from clients old systems they are disposing of07:30
SitheHow do I install the fglrx driver?07:30
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astro76Gh0st, type free -m07:30
CheeseGardenerhttp://pastebin.com/d1e135e2307:30
|_ockeand partially because i can barely afford rent and electricity, let alone food and comptuer parts :P07:30
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CheeseGardenerCould someone tell me what that says, more or less?07:30
n2diyCheeseGardener: looking07:30
Gh0stAstro: In terminal?07:30
astro76Gh0st, yeah07:31
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kyncani|_ocke: :) well, here, old equipments are vax, old unixes and alpha. And i can afford equipment :)07:31
|_ockeright now im running an athlonxp 3000+ at 2.1ghz, 512mb DDR, 80gb HD, a 256mb nvidia fx5500, all of it i got free07:32
Gh0stAstro: Is it my Total Mem?07:32
titleBwhat does it mean u need to be identified to join that channel?07:32
astro76Gh0st, yes07:32
p1lsgeek what about one that shows u files of website07:32
n2diyCheeseGardener: I don't understand the command sequence "time fsck"?07:32
Gh0stAstro & Geek_: Ok, then my total is 438. So...876 MB?07:32
kyncani|_ocke: well, i think you would be more confortable with some more ram07:32
|_ockei have about 25 or 30 other 10-80gb HDs in a box, 6 or 7 towers of varying states of disassembly, and like 10 processors, dozens of video, sound, and network cards, and whatever other junk you can imagine07:32
AyabaraI'm trying to upgrade from feisty to gutsy. I run ' gksudo "update-manager -d", and the output is::07:33
Ayabaragksudo "update-manager -d"07:33
Ayabarawarning: could not initiate dbus07:33
Ayabaracurrent dist not found in meta-release file07:33
|_ockekyncani, oh i know i would, but dont have the budget :P07:33
|_ockei have liek 5GB of PC100 and 133 :D07:33
CheeseGardenertime fsck just tells you how much time elapsed in the output07:33
astro76titleB, http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode07:33
kyncani|_ocke: steal it (kidding)07:33
|_ockebut i just got the second 256mb DDR chip like 2 months ago07:33
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|_ockewas on 256 for awhile, that was when i was having the swapping problems07:33
kyncani|_ocke: i must say kde with 2G ram is something else :)07:33
n2diyCheeseGardener: ok, so, what is the problem, besides the error message?07:33
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sauvinKDE with only a single gig is //nice//.07:34
Geek_Gh0st: its a matter of preference really ;), my main ubuntu rig is 1 gb ram so i hardly need any07:34
travellingSalesMhi, can someone help me to set my default video output? i have all the video plugins but mplayer, totem, realplayer all of them just show me a blue screen with sound07:34
Gh0stGeek_: So..should I just make it 1gb for precaution?07:34
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|_ockei actually have 2 swap partitions on separate drives, the first is 450MB, the second is 4Gb07:35
Geek_Gh0st: 1 gb isn't overkill so it should be fine07:35
|_ockei swapon the 4gb one when i notice slowness and swap usage07:35
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CheeseGardenerthere is an error message?07:35
|_ockeGh0st, definitely 1gb07:35
Gh0stGeek_ : Ok... And...Grr...It says too small of size.07:35
CheeseGardenerI thought it fixed the errors, I put -p in for it to fix the errors.07:35
Gh0stGeek_: Should I try 1.5gb?07:36
Geek_Gh0st: try 207:36
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ubot3conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 129 kB, installed size 392 kB07:36
linux_how i can run some command on startup ?07:36
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n2diyCheeseGardener: ok, so, I was wrong, no error message, what is the problem?07:36
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scipiolinux_, go to system-preferences-sessions07:37
CheeseGardenerit said there was 2 major and 16240 minor faults07:38
tehkAnyone else have to use a corner to unhide your panel when using compiz?07:38
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CheeseGardenerdid it fix them n2diy?07:38
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Gh0stGeek_: Wait...It shows, as the third partition (one I made in Vista): Device - /dev/sda3, Type - Swap, Mount Point - Blank, Format? - Box, Size - 10485 MB (?!), Used - 3200...Is that right?07:38
n2diyCheeseGardener: I don't know, is your system working?07:38
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CheeseGardenerI guess so yes07:38
ari_stress2hi, anyone here works at dubai?07:38
CheeseGardenerI haven't had any problems07:39
Geek_o007:39
Gh0stGeek_: I noticed that when I chose to 'Use as...' Swap, it automatically changed it to 3200.07:39
n2diyCheeseGardener: Ok, so don't sweat it, enjoy.07:39
Geek_sounds like you made the whole thing swap?07:39
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whezlerhow do you alter the hosts file?07:39
Gh0stGeek_:...Fuck...>.<07:39
Geek_?07:39
whezlerI keep getting a 'permission denied' message07:39
Geek_naw07:39
tritium!language > Gh0st07:39
Geek_unless you commit the changes, nothing happens07:39
Gh0stGeek_: I'm undoing Changes.07:40
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luyikk07:40
luyill07:40
ConstyAnyone have an idea how to fix a problem using an Intel GMA950 graphics card where almost any 3D applications tends to have rendering problems where textures aren't mapping and such on the screen?  It seems like my system with nividia NEVER has a problem, but my Intel box always does.07:40
Gh0stTritium: Sorry. >.< Will not happen again.07:40
tocerhello everyone. how to open a new tab in exist gnome-terminal from command line, not press <ctrl>-<shift>-t in gnome-terminal07:40
tritiumThanks, Gh0st07:40
Geek_tritium: the bot seems to be down07:40
luyikkk07:40
linux_how i can run compiz with emerlad decorations ?07:40
Geek_Gh0st: sorry about that dude...07:40
Geek_....07:40
luyikk07:40
whezlerhate to repeat myself07:40
whezlerbut how do you alter the hosts file?07:40
tritiumGeek_: hmm, okay, thanks.07:40
Geek_yanno, there might be an easier way Gh0st07:40
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whezlerI realize full well it's pretty late most places, and yet unrealistically want someone to solve the problem I need fixed as soon as possible :x07:41
Gh0stGeek_: Ok...So, it's back to normal. Size is still 0485 MB and used is stil 3200MB.07:41
astro76whezler, what are you using to edit?07:41
Astravsem privet07:41
whezler/etc/hosts07:41
kyncaniwhezler: sudo gedit /etc/hosts07:41
whezlerthank you07:41
thoreauputicwhezler: try   gksudo gedit /etc/hosts07:41
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Depechethis sucks cus i still got no clue how to get my video ati working correctly, :(07:41
Geek_Gh0st: if it isn't too much trouble, got a screenshot?07:41
Gh0stGeek_: Ok.07:41
astro76whezler, I meant what editor, gksudo gedit, sudo nano, sudo vi, etc....07:42
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_cYril_hello all07:42
Geek_i can't remember exactly whats where, need a nudge to my memory07:42
AstraWHy we are all talking on English07:42
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Gh0stGeek_: Ok. Now what?07:42
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kyncaniastro76: well, if he's asking how to edit /etc/hosts, gedit is a safe bet ;)07:42
AstraHI!!!!!!!!!!07:42
astro76Astra, this channel is english only support for ubuntu07:42
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astro76kyncani, good point!07:43
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Geek_Gh0st: where are you at now?07:43
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Geek_(in install that is)07:43
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Gh0stGeek_: Prepare Partitions07:43
Geek_whats it say?07:43
Gh0stGeek_: How do I send you this screenie?07:43
Gh0stUm...07:43
Geek_Gh0st: tinypic maybe?07:44
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Gh0stOh. >.< Haha.07:44
Gh0stJust a sec.07:44
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roxygirlhey, has anyone used dvd-slideshow?07:45
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AstraRUSSIANS TALK with me PLEASE07:46
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astro76!offtopic | Astra07:46
ubot3Astra: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:46
tritiumAstra: this is an english-speaking channel07:46
Gh0stGeek_: http://i19.tinypic.com/5x8j0p107:46
tritium!ru | Astra07:46
ubot3Astra:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:46
Geek_hmm07:46
indigoparadoxMaybe someone can help me with a printer issue... ^^;;07:46
Geek_ahh yes07:46
Gh0st-Hopeful.-07:47
orbisvicis!sr | Astra07:47
ubot3Factoid sr not found07:47
Geek_click on format box for the partitions you want to install linux on07:47
AstraOK !!!!!! Thanks to you07:47
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Geek_no... wait07:47
indigoparadoxI have a Xerox Phaser 6100 which I'm trying to coax into working on 6.06,07:47
Geek_you need to resize right?07:47
orbisvicishmm ... /join #ubuntu-sr07:47
Gh0stI do...But it does nothing.07:47
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Gh0stUm...I don't really now.07:47
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Gh0stWhat you see in that pic is what I have right now.07:47
orbisvicis!rs | astra07:47
ubot3Factoid rs not found07:47
Geek_its ru07:48
Geek_maybe SU ;p07:48
AstraPlease sorry for my stupid question i am first time here!!!07:48
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Gh0stHuh?07:48
tritiumAstra: no worries :)07:48
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Geek_Gh0st: er... are the partitions correct sizewise?07:48
Gh0stAs in..how I made them in Windows?07:48
Gh0stYeah.07:48
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Geek_no, as in "are they how you want them"07:49
ramlinuxsa07:49
m4st3ranyone has x-chat python scripts? Give me plz.... just use study07:49
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Gh0stUm...Let me say it this way, I WANT them how I NEED them.07:49
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Geek_ahh07:50
Gh0stThe third partition, 10gb, is the one I made for Linux.07:50
Geek_click on new partition table then07:50
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Gh0stOk.07:50
Smirker_what's a good IDE for writing ANSI C / C++07:50
Gh0stAll current partitions will be removed, continue?07:50
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Geek_o007:50
Geek_NO07:50
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Gh0stYou have selected an entire device to partition. If you proceed with creating a new partition table on the device, then all current partitions will be removed.07:50
Geek_...07:50
Geek_no no..07:51
Geek_no07:51
Gh0stlmao07:51
Geek_gah07:51
Geek_*thinks*07:51
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Geek_dosen't it have gparted seperate?07:51
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b_9why doesn't this work?                          for song in *.mp3; do mplayer $song; done07:51
b_9kinda works, but not like I expected07:51
bullgard4English help wanted: What does mean 'to page' in man more: "More is a filter for paging through text one screenful at a time."07:51
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Geek_(sorry, its been a while... i think i used gparted FIRST the last time"07:51
Gh0stHm...Let me see if this is what you're looking for.07:51
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lionewhere to find zaptel.ko07:51
Gh0stLet me send you a pic again.07:51
m4st3ranyone has x-chat python scripts? i want them....07:51
Geek_no no07:51
Geek_i get07:51
Geek_close that first07:52
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Gh0stOk.07:52
Gh0stClose Install?07:52
Geek_go see if there's gparted there07:52
Geek_yeah07:52
Gh0stOk.07:52
tritium!enter07:52
ubot3Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:52
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Gh0stUm...hold on.07:52
Geek_tritium: erm, we're not ;)07:52
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tritiumGeek_: scroll up ;)07:52
Gh0stWhere would I find gparted?07:53
thoreauputictritium: the trend in articulate speech in #ubuntu is downwards :)07:53
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tritiumthoreauputic: agreed07:53
Geek_its there. alternately see if you can start it from shell07:53
bullgard4I am looking for a better alternatve for OO.o Base. The OO. Base frontend does not provide a keyboard shortcut for 'Go to the next record', 'Go to the last record', 'Go to the previous record'. The 'Search for a record' keyboard shortcut Ctrl+F only opens if the cursor is prevously placed at certain screen areas. 43000 records, GUI mandatory.07:53
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(thoreauputic/#ubuntu) !fr07:57
(ubot3/#ubuntu) Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:57
(Bogus8/#ubuntu) I think it's related to compiz07:57
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(frenchie/#ubuntu) merci :)07:57
(locke_/#ubuntu) so no i have commandline working but no GUI :D07:57
(gonzoism/#ubuntu) this is starting to get to me. my box is constantly freezing up when i run ubuntu. when i run slackware or linux-from-scratch, it doesn't lock up. i like ubuntu best, except for the constant freezing. it freezes maybe 8 times an hour. for 2 to 5 minutes. it is enough to drive someone insane. can someone help me ?07:57
(gdb/#ubuntu) bullgard4: PostgreSQL or MySQL (ie; probably beyond the scope of the problem you're seeking to solve). I don't think there's anything non-SQL that's going to beat OO.o Base on Linux.07:57
(Gh0st/#ubuntu) Geek_: You said 1 Gb for basic, right?07:57
(m4st3r/#ubuntu) <kyncani>//recommand perl than python?07:58
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(Geek_/#ubuntu) Gh0st: swap?07:58
(Gh0st/#ubuntu) Geek_:07:58
(kyncani/#ubuntu) m4st3r: don't know about perl07:58
(Gh0st/#ubuntu) Yes.07:58
(locke_/#ubuntu) Gh0st yes use 1gb07:58
(Geek_/#ubuntu) yeah.07:58
(Sithe/#ubuntu) Guys im having MAJOR problems07:58
(Gh0st/#ubuntu) Ok.07:58
(locke_/#ubuntu) that will be fine07:58
(Greg/#ubuntu) Gonzoism the easiest answer to that question is try different hardware =] 07:58
(kyncani/#ubuntu) m4st3r: i mean, scripting xchat07:58
Gregor a different version of ubuntu.07:58
SitheCan someone help me with a video driver problem?07:58
m4st3rkyncani:ok07:58
sauvinI can't "recommend" anything against python because I don't know anything about it. I know perl is pretty darned capable.07:58
Gregperhaps even kubuntu07:58
gonzoismgreg.  no is a much easier answer.07:58
locke_kubuntu is nice07:59
locke_try it07:59
Gregwell in that case try 6.06 instead of 707:59
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Gh0stOk. Now what? I have 1000 MiB Linux-swap. And, now a 9 GiB unallocated partition.07:59
locke_i was running ubuntu and was dead set against using KDE, but ive since switched and am very happy.. except for the fact that i cant use it right now and my video drivers wont install right07:59
kyncanisauvin: 1~2 years ago, the entire xchat python module documentation would fit on one not-so-big html page ...08:00
gonzoismi've tried kubuntu.  no difference. its not the wm freezing.  its either the kernel, or maybe something to do with08:00
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gonzoismHALd08:00
locke_Gh0st for christ sake allocate the rest and sue it08:00
locke_use it08:00
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locke_as /home or something08:00
Gh0st>.<08:00
gnuskoolgonzoism, how long does it freeze? gnome or kde, anything in the logs?08:00
bullgard4gdb: I don't understand you well. My problem is rather simple: The frontend of OO.o Base is insufficient. Does have PostgreSQL a graphical frontend? Does MySQL have a graphical frontend?08:00
Geek_ghost: allocate the rest to ext3 ...08:00
Geek_BRB08:00
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locke_bullgard4 there are graphical frontends08:00
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locke_bullgard4 i dont know anything about them though08:00
saylarbullgard4, try phpmyadmin08:00
Gh0stGeek_: Ok.08:00
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saylarit is in the repositories08:00
Gh0stlocke_: Should I use round to Cylinders?08:01
spiderfirehello08:01
gdbbullgard4: I understand that, no, and no.  I'll summarize: I think you need to either find a way to map keys in OO.o Base to do what you want, or send in a feature request to the developers and use a non-Linux solution in the meantime.08:01
gonzoismgnuskool yeah,  dmesg gives me ata1 errors. similiar to: [286321.260000]           res 40/00:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/b0 Emask 0x4 (timeout)08:01
Gregin that cas gonzoism try a different version of ubuntu08:01
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Gregout of the 6 versions I've installed only 4 worked on my laptop08:01
astro76Gh0st, yes round to cylinders08:01
gonzoismgnuskool i think it is specifically the sda drivers in the kernel.08:01
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locke_Gh0st sure08:01
SitheCan someone experianced with video drivers help me?08:01
e-HernickSithe: explain your problem08:02
astro76!ask | Sithe08:02
ubot3Sithe: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:02
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gdbbullgard4: I hate to be a naysayer, but I don't think there's Linux software that's going to give you what OO.o Base does + have that feature you're wanting.08:02
spiderfirehow can install flash and java into amd6408:02
Gh0stLocke_: Also, I'm sorry I have so many questions. But, I'm new to Linux, as was told by several reliable sources to start with Ubuntu.08:02
Gh0stAstro: Thanks.08:02
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e-HernickGh0st: Ubuntu is a good choice.08:02
Gh0st*and was08:02
sauvinThe entire xchat perl interface documentation, last time I looked, was a medium-sized HTML page. It's enough if you already know the language.08:02
gonzoismSithe i've been using video drivers as long as i have been using computers, what is your question ?08:02
linux_how i can clear all the command from ALT + F2 ?08:02
locke_Gh0st absolutely, ubuntu is a great ploace to start08:02
astro76Gh0st, that's what this channel is here for08:02
Gh0ste-Hernick: Thanks. I think so, too.08:02
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e-Hernicklinux_: you want to remove the command history so that other people cannot see them?08:03
weredragonWhats the best IRC client for Linux?08:03
weredragonIn your opinion08:03
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linux_e-Hernick ,yes08:03
Sithegonzoism: My monitor is 1680x1050.. But that is not an option in screen resolution. I have added it my xorg.conf too08:03
Ster-izzlesomeone enlighten me: why is every room full of people but like 5 talk?08:03
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locke_weredragon that is a very subjective question08:03
e-Hernickweredragon: there's no such thing as "best".. I use Konversation right now, but I also like KVirc and irssi08:03
Gh0stTo all: So, 1 GB Linu-sxap and 9 Gb ext3. Apply?08:03
e-HernickGh0st: yes08:03
sauvinweredragon, xchat.08:03
gonzoismSithe intel card ?08:03
Ster-izzlemmh08:03
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Toma-weredragon: anything that supports text input :) (xchat for gui, irssi for console)08:03
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Sithegonzoism ATI Radeon X800 GTO08:04
gnuskoolgonzoism, sorry mate, not sure08:04
gonzoismSithe laptop ?08:04
locke_weredragon in many peoples opinion, bitchx is the best irc client, or irssi, but those are commandline only, in others opinion xchat is, and in still others, gaim/pidgin or kopete is the best08:04
thoreauputicSter-izzle: some are working but on line, some are away from the keyboard, some are just lurking...08:04
kyncanisauvin: well, i was just expecting a more mature api :)08:04
astro76weredragon, the most popular in here are definitely xchat and irssi08:04
Sithegonzoism Desktop08:04
locke_weredragon depends what your style is08:04
Sithegonzoism ATI Radeon X80008:04
koshariweredragon iam using gaim, i dont know that its the best but its installed by default so why not use it08:04
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e-Hernickyeah, xchat is a good value08:04
e-Hernickvery popular, very mature08:04
locke_/me is using bitchx right now08:04
sauvinThe "api" itself is in its second generation. The documentation could use a bit of polish, yes, but it's apparently all there, you just have to read it.08:04
spiderfirecan i install flash into firefox64?08:04
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gnuskoolweredragon, i use xchat, good if youre noob08:04
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gdbweredragon: irssi since it's the best tty client there is, and being tty based, can be run under screen.  as for graphical ones, xchat is the "standard" but sort of stinks.  i liked kvirc (while loathing KDE) but i'm not sure it's around anymore.  i've not used konversation08:04
linux_e-Hernick , how i can do this ?08:05
gonzoismSithe so you added it to your xorg.conf, did you ctrl-alt-backspace ?  did it work ?08:05
SitheNope.08:05
locke_konversation is ok, but xchat is better08:05
gonzoismSithe   i saw something about this the other day.  lemme go back and look for it08:05
e-Hernicklinux_: good question.. under GNOME or KDE?08:05
weredragonWell then08:05
weredragonok.08:05
Sithegonzoism alright. Im using the fglrx driver btw.08:05
astro76spiderfire, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins08:06
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kyncanisauvin: well, i managed to do what i wanted, but it felt very under-documented08:06
locke_so does anyone have any idea how i could get these nvidia drivers installed being that running the driver from nvidia.com errors to hell and doesnt work08:06
bullgard4gdb: Understood. I already discussed the problem with a representative of Sun's OO.o Base. He also said I should put a feature request to the OO.o Base developers. But I cannot wait until they have improved the OO.o Base frontend. This database is my main application program.08:06
sauvinkyncani, yes, it's minimally documented.08:06
e-Hernickbullgard4: are you able to reach those buttons using the tab key?08:06
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linux_e-Hernick , gnome08:06
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bullgard4e-Hernick: No, I am not.08:06
Gh0stTo all: I got this when I tried to Apply - http://i16.tinypic.com/4qsw8rq08:07
gnuskoolweredragon, best thing really is to try out till you feel happy08:07
e-Hernickbullgard4: lemme load oo base.. How do I reproduce this quickly?08:07
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bullgard4e-Hernick: You would have to make a form where you can manipulate the data in the underlying table.08:08
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GothCloudWow... a lot of people in here08:08
Gh0stAny solutions?08:09
SitheWow... I wish I could get WoW to work lol..08:09
e-Hernickbullgard4: I suppose you've searched the net.. did you find anybody else with your problem?08:09
nalphaguys anybody can help me? my Ubuntu Desktop can't be right click? what happen? this situation begun when I tryng to connect to my NAS TS-201 but had compatibility problem cause I'm connect with samba script to folder that I make in Desktop? sry for the english. thanx08:09
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gdbbullgard4: Yeah, I'm really sorry about that.  I hope that they're able to get that feature in there.  You might investigate some real SQL RDBMS systems (PostgreSQL, MySQL) that have some graphical management software (MySQL's is better, but PostgreSQL is generally considered the better RDBMS).  I don't know that that will meet your needs, and the migration to that would likely be outside the scope of your problem.08:09
d0lph1nK1nghow do i kill a program running on port 500?08:09
frenchie:'(08:09
d0lph1nK1ngi don't know what program it is that is running on port 50008:09
GothCloudA backround program.08:10
Sithebackground prog08:10
Sitheohh.. goth beat me to it!08:10
e-Hernickd0lph1nK1ng: maybe netstat can help you find it08:10
kyncanid0lph1nK1ng: netstat and lsof can help you find it08:10
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Sithegonzoism any luck?08:11
Gh0stI received an error when trying to apply. http://i16.tinypic.com/4qsw8rq08:11
d0lph1nK1ngthanks guys08:11
gonzoismSithe08:11
Sithegonzoism yes?08:11
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e-Hernickkyncani: how would you use netstat and lsof to tell what program is using what TCP socket?08:11
gonzoismSithe   i'm this far so far.  i couldn't find what i was looking at yesterday.  http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=2516146708:11
aba_ecnetstat -apn08:11
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kyncanie-Hernick: I meant or, s/and/or/08:12
bullgard4Is phpmyadmin a graphical tool?08:12
aba_eccould give you the PID of the process using a TCP/UDP port08:12
Sithegonzoism Do you need help looking?08:12
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e-Hernickaba_ec: that would work fine08:12
gonzoismSithe  that is just a search on the forums.    i'm gonna give up here. :)  sorry i didn't fix it for you. :)  sorry i wasn't more help08:12
e-Hernickwhat do you need lsof for, then08:12
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SitheAlright08:12
linux_so how i can delete the histary of alt + f2 ?08:12
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aba_ecrun "netstat -apn" as root08:13
e-Hernickaba_ec: well, d0lphinking is gone08:13
gnuskoolbullgard4, it is,check the wiki for info08:13
kyncanie-Hernick: well, it's a matter of taste really08:13
e-HernickI don't even have lsof installed08:13
bullgard4e-Hernick: I am subscribing to the mailing list users@dba.openoffice.org08:13
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e-HernickI like fuser08:13
gonzoismSithe you might try asking again.  ati is common.  maybe someone will kknow.   try making a short simple question. :)08:14
e-Hernickactually, I do have lsof installed in sbin..08:14
e-Hernicknice output08:14
SitheMy screen resolution wont go to my monitor resolution. Can anyone help?08:15
Gh0stWhat is ntfsresize with the -i option?08:15
bullgard4gnuskool: Do you mean the Ubuntu wiki in order to check for phpmyadmin?08:15
aba_ece-Hernick: try "sudo netstat -tapn"08:15
Gh0stThat's what the error tells me to use.08:15
linux_so how i can delete the histary of alt + f2 ? [] 08:15
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aba_ecwould give you a shorter output08:15
MasterShrekanyoen ever played uplink: hacker elite?08:15
MasterShrekgame is awesome =P08:15
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gonzoismlinux_  what is logging out to it ?08:16
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SitheMy screen resolution wont go to my monitor resolution. Can anyone help?08:16
Cypher21My windows side like the x botton and stuff is gone08:16
e-HernickSithe: you're not being specific enough.08:16
nalphaMasterShrek: what version of UpliNk?08:16
kyncanie-Hernick: for opened ports, it's lsof's -i option08:16
e-HernickSithe: describe your problem correctly08:16
linux_gonzoism  , what ? [] 08:16
MasterShreknalpha, i dunno, im looking for my cd lol08:16
nalphaMasterShrek: I had playing Uplink several years ago. And there is a big bug on it.08:16
kahrytan!qemu08:16
ubot3qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo08:16
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Cypher21Emerald is mess up and now i do not have any window corners08:17
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e-HernickSithe: in one short sentence you should be able to say what version of ubuntu you're running, your video card, the driver you're using, the screen resolution you want to use.. wheter or not you've tried to do anything to xorg.conf..08:17
gonzoismlinux_ one way you can is: clear> /dev/tty2  i think.08:17
MasterShrekreally?08:17
|_ockeARGHHHHH08:17
ggoogican i have users B, C, D, & E under A user who is not a root user?08:17
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e-HernickSithe: don't just say that it's not working. Tell us what's wrong, and what you've tried.08:17
gonzoismlinux_ yeah,  sudo clear>/dev/tty208:17
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Cypher21How do i get my ubuntu to work again? Emerald is messed up and i can't seem to find a way to fix it08:17
e-Hernickgonzoism: I don't think that's what he wants to do08:17
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Sir_FawnpugHas anybody gotten the chance to try Ubuntu Studio yet?08:18
jetscreameryou can nuke all the .gstuff in ~08:18
gonzoismlinux_  you want stuff to stop writing to it ?08:18
e-Hernickgonzoism: he's got a command history in the "Run Command" dialogue that appears when he presses alt-F2 in gnome.. and he wants to clear the command history08:18
aba_eclinux_: alt+f2 is the tty2?08:18
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astro76ggoogi, users you add after the first are not added to admin group by default, so they will not be able to sudo08:18
Cypher21:(08:18
Sithee-Hernick: Ubuntu Fiesty, ATI Radeon X800, Current resolution: 1024x768, Wanted resolution: 1680x105008:18
Cypher21:'(08:18
MasterShrekwhat kinda bug nalpha ?08:18
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e-HernickSithe: have you tried to edit your xorg.conf08:18
bnnagabhushan8-)08:18
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Gh0st'You must specify exactly one device.'08:18
Gh0stHow do I specify the partition?08:18
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Sithee-Hernick: Yes.08:19
e-HernickSithe: can you paste your xorg.conf on a pastebin08:19
gonzoisme-Hernick ah.  i   damnit08:19
gonzoismIT FOZE AGAIN.08:19
gonzoismTHIS IS SO IRRITATING !!!08:19
gonzoismi can't deal with this.08:19
gonzoismthis is unacceptable.08:19
aba_ecthere is a file called ~/.bash_history. There are all the commands you've executed in bash08:19
kosharii cant see the big deal of ubuntu studio, after all its just a black theme with a few preinstalled proggies,08:19
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linux_aba_ec , i have delete tty2 and this is not clear the history08:19
Sithee-Hernick: I haven't edited it since I last re-installed xorg. Want me to try again?08:19
e-Hernickgonzoism: you're lagging? try connecting to another server08:19
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lockdggoogi: what, you mean can you have users "belong" to other users?08:19
gonzoismlinux_ echo hi > ~/.bash_history08:20
Sithee-Hernick: But last time I tried it didn't work08:20
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gonzoisme-Hernick no lag.  ubuntu keeps freezing08:20
lockdggoogi: or what do you mean by "A" user under B C D, etc08:20
e-HernickSithe: yes, I want you to make sure that in Section "Screen", Subsection "Display", you've got Modes "1680x1050" in there08:20
Cypher21HOW DO I GET EMERALD to work again? none of the themes load and i can't do anything08:20
nalphaMasterShrek: the bug is when we accept for job, and they pay half of the sallary first, we can try it always, so we can get money just with accepting and dealing job without need to do the job08:20
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Sithee-Hernick: Alright. Doing that now08:20
bnnagabhushanhow to use yahoo voice chat?????????08:20
e-HernickSithe: pasting your xorg.conf to a site like pastebin.ca is the next step08:20
MasterShrekoh i spose nalpha lol never thought of that08:20
Sithee-Hernick: I understand08:20
MasterShrekbut dont u get a bad rating for that or something?08:20
e-Hernickgonzoism: freezing? Any clue what is the source of the freeze?08:20
linux_gonzoism , hi > ~/.bash_history this is command ?08:21
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gonzoismlinux_  no.  echo.    echo anything>.bash_history08:21
Sithee-Hernick: does it matter if it is at the begging or the end of the resolutions?08:21
gonzoismlinux_ echo > ~/.bash_history08:21
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e-HernickSithe: it should be the first08:21
gonzoismlinux_  or, rm ~/.bash_history08:21
aba_eclinux_: or try > .bash_history08:21
Sithee-Hernick: OHH that might have been the problem lol!08:21
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gonzoisme-Hernick yeah, i suspect its the sda driver in the kernel.08:22
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gonzoisme-Hernick whatever it is, it is ubuntu specific, because the other distros don't do it.08:22
jan__morning08:22
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e-Hernickgonzoism: I don't suppose you've got a secondary sata controller on your motherboard08:22
e-Hernickubuntu-specific08:22
Cypher21HELP!08:22
e-Hernickthat's weird08:22
Cypher21>.<08:22
Cypher21!08:22
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Bogus8why does removing bittorrent need to also remove ubunto-desktop?08:22
gonzoisme-Hernick i don't think so.  its a laptop.  never opened it.08:23
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lockdBogus8: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package08:23
rxKaffeeinside the home directorys of users that I have created through ubuntu's graphical interface, there are several directorys such as Documents, Music, Projects, etc. that are owned by "root" with 755 perms08:23
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e-Hernickgonzoism: I suggest you stop gdm and try working the computer in text mode08:23
linux_aba_ec , what is the command ? what i need to do with  .bash_history08:23
Bogus8lockd: so it can be removed with no problems?08:23
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rxKaffeewhat would have caused this to happen?08:23
Sithee-Hernick: That didn't solve the problem. Uploading xorg.conf to pastebin now.08:23
lockdBogus8: it is useless, it consists of only dependencies, iirc08:23
rxKaffeethey should be owned by the user whose homedire they are in I think...08:24
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Bogus8lockd: ok cool08:24
nalphaMasterShrek: the bad rating can be fix with finishing the other job, so the point is after we had much money and can buy greatest hardware we can do other job more easily and get good rating.08:24
kyncaniBogus8: I think you should keep it, i hear it make upgrading easier (edgy -> dapper, dapper -> feisty)08:24
MasterShreki spose08:24
lockdI'm still looking for a remote-X type system which works like screen08:25
Sithee-Hernick: http://pastebin.com/m57decbb908:25
MasterShreknalpha, you just ruined the game for me :(08:25
MasterShreklol08:25
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rxKaffeelockd: vnc08:25
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e-Hernickgonzoism: then you'll know if it's a kernel thing. I suggest you start a few CPU and disk intensive jobs in the background (file copies, tar-bzip2'ing big dirs and such) with an interactive job in the foreground (say irssi :) ) and see if you still get freezes.. all that with no X running, in text mode08:25
lockdrxKaffee: well, I wanted a way to use my same desktop wherever08:25
Bogus8kyncani: if it's so neccissary then why is flagged to be removed if I pull bittorrent?08:25
lockdrxKaffee: and if I'm at the local system, would I get graphics accel and all that?08:25
sSiroSoriSsdo you believe in jesus lockd?08:25
nalphaMasterShrek: sorry, but currently I'm not the found of the bug, it's my brother :( same with you, I work hard to do the job well, but my brother just find the bug... very anoyying08:26
lockdrxKaffee: (at local, I still need all the windows to stay )08:26
e-HernickSithe: comment out lines 97 and 98, HorizSync and VertRefresh08:26
Gh0stntfsresize -s /dev/sda3 <Size>; How do I specify the size?08:26
kyncaniBogus8: ubuntu-desktop is a package selection made by ubuntu's devs, and they have selected bittorent.08:26
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gonzoisme-Hernick i've done that.  still freezes.  i think it has something to do with HALd  or hald.   its not X.08:26
rxKaffeelockd: no, I don't think there are any remote's that give acceleration08:26
e-HernickSithe: and try again without these two lines08:26
Cypher21I can't do any thing on ubuntu becuase emerald i not loading or something!08:26
Cypher21!08:26
Sithee-Hernick: Comment out means to delete?08:26
linux_someone ?08:26
lockdrxKaffee: there's indirect rendering or something of the likes08:26
|_ockemeh08:26
Bogus8kyncani: hmm, ok, well I'm unselecting it08:26
e-HernickSithe: yeah, you can delete them or add # as the first character of the line08:26
lockdrxKaffee: but that's pure X08:26
|_ockethis 'lockd' really is confusing me08:27
rxKaffeelockd: though you can connect to the vncserver from either the local system, or any remote networked one with a vnc client08:27
|_ockeheh08:27
gonzoismSithe   a comment looks like this:08:27
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kyncaniBogus8: keeping bittorent won't do any harm anyway.08:27
lockdrxKaffee: could I actually attach X things to screen, or does it work like that?08:27
gonzoism#sith  comments start with a "#"  they get ignored.08:27
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SitheAlright08:27
gnuskoolCypher21, are you getting an error message?what specifically is happening, can your mouse move, can you open apps??08:27
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|_ockewhy must there be users in my regular channels with similar nicks??? :D08:27
Bogus8kyncani: I wouldn't have installed it to start with if I had the choice08:27
f0rqu3http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9986/screenshotiu5.png08:27
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e-Hernickdeleting a line in xorg.conf or commenting it out has the same effect08:27
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|_ockeshiiiiiiiit08:27
rxKaffeelockd: I don't think screen is capable of anything more graphical than ncurses08:28
Jamesinator!language | |_ocke08:28
ubot3|_ocke: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:28
kyncaniBogus8: well, you can remove it but then you won't have the services of package selection ubuntu's devs have made.08:28
Sithee-Hernick: Like this?: #HorizSync28-5108:28
e-Hernicklockd: there are graphical equivalents to screen08:28
Sithe#VertRefresh43-6008:28
e-HernickSithe: yes08:28
ubotu|_ocke: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:28
nalphaMasterShrek: If you like you can try defcon? already hear about that?08:28
bullgard4English help wanted: What does mean 'to page' in man more: "More is a filter for paging through text one screenful at a time."08:28
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gonzoisme-Hernick   i think i am going to try upgrading kernels.   any pointers for me ?  i did that on fedora a while back and never got the initrd.gz thing down, and i think ubuntu works the same way.08:28
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Gh0stAnybody mind helping?08:28
Bogus8kyncani: yeah, I'll have the package selection that *I* have made... which ironically is what *I* want08:28
rxKaffeebullgard4: splitting a very long section of text into multiple sections that fit on the screen08:28
Bogus8;)08:28
lockde-Hernick: what, and do they work well and with GL accel?08:29
e-Hernickbullgard4: well, let's say that you have a text file ten pages long.. if you 'cat' it, the ten pages display at once.. if you run it through a pager like 'less' or 'more', it displays one page at a time08:29
rxKaffeebullgard4: each section fitted to your display is one "page"08:29
MasterShrekno nalpha is it linux caompatible?08:29
|_ockedoes anyone have any ide how i can get the real nvidia drivers installed when i cant get the installer to run and restricted-manager screws it up and leaves me with a commandline08:29
gnuskoolGh0st, whats happening ?08:29
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SuperLagI doubt this is anyone's problem but my own, but have no way to test. Are the mirrors slower than usual tonight?08:29
gonzoism!ask | gh0st08:29
ubot3gh0st: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:29
ubotugh0st: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:29
|_ockei need another option08:29
|_ockeor something08:29
kyncaniBogus8: for example, if the devs think a new app should be installed by default with gutsy, they are likely to mention the new dependency in ubuntu-desktop.08:29
Sithee-hernick: restart X?08:29
GothCloudMy computer is so slow.... Its hamsters running on a wheel and memorizing numbers I shout at them08:29
nalphaMasterShrek: don't know, but is uplink has linux compatible ?08:29
e-HernickSithe: after saving xorg.conf, restart X, yes08:29
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|_ockei had opengl in 6.10 just fine08:29
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|_ockei upgraded to 7.04 and nada08:29
ggoogilockd: i'd like to have a non-root user control other users. for example, non-root A controls users B, C, D, and E.08:29
gonzoismGothCloud  how many mhz ?08:29
Bogus8kyncani: hmmm... this is starting to turn me off to ubuntu08:29
|_ockea lot of stuff was screwed up08:29
MasterShreknalpha, yes it has a linux patch08:30
SuperLagI'm getting < 50k from the main mirror, and it just seems like it should be going much faster08:30
bmachinehey yalls08:30
|_ockei just finally found out i needed to run dpkg -reconfigure or whatever08:30
lockdggoogi: what do you mean control other users?08:30
bullgard4rxKaffee, e-Hernick: Thank you very much for explaining.08:30
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|_ockeand got all those packages reconfigured, so apt-get can work now08:30
GothCloudgonzoism: 150008:30
Gh0stGnuskool: Well, when I went to 'Apply' in gparted, told me that something was wrong. And, to use the ntfsresize -i option to found out how much I can shrink (split).08:30
bmachineanyone like the fluxbox ?08:30
ggoogilockd: read and write their files.08:30
|_ockeand installed restricted-manager, which said it could and woudl install nvidia drivers, and i did08:30
nalphaMasterShrek: just check http://www.introversion.co.uk/ it's better than uplink i suggest, but can't had money to buy it08:30
aba_ecggoogi: you can set the same root UID to user A08:30
|_ockeso it did it, and said it worked great08:30
f0rqu3bmachine, yes08:30
|_ockeand restarted08:30
Jamesinator!chmod | ggoogi08:30
ubot3ggoogi: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux08:30
ubotuggoogi: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux08:30
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neozennalpha: as in uplink the game by introversion... yeah.. they support linux08:31
aba_ecthen user A will have the same privileges as root08:31
bmachinef0rqu3, how u got urs setup?08:31
Jamesinator!ops | ubot3 and ubotu are warring08:31
ubot3ubot3 and ubotu are warring: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso08:31
ubotuubot3 and ubotu are warring: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok08:31
ubot3and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 136 kB08:31
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gonzoismGothCloud   bah !  that's fast....    is it like a problem slow or just not fast enough for you ?08:31
|_ockeand could only load commandline, (gthough thats better than before i had gui and no commandline login prompts)08:31
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aba_ecbut that's a security risk08:31
GothCloudgonzoism: Just....slowish08:31
Myrttihmmm08:31
lockdaba_ec: it wouldn't, ggoogi is only talking about user files08:31
jetscreamerubot3: owner08:31
ubot3Factoid owner not found08:31
e-HernickBogus8: the way I understand it, ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are only meta-packages.. it doesn't change anything if you uninstall them, your ubuntu should work the same without them..08:31
lockdaba_ec: it's still security risk though08:31
Sithee-Hernick: That worked. Does the deletion of those two lines have any negative effects?08:31
gnuskoolGh0st, what was 'wrong' can you pastebin it? or type it?08:31
neozennalpha: you'll need a patch as the original distributed version has some broken libs08:31
Gh0stGnuskool: So, I'm in the terminal and I ran the command, and I have it up to: ntfsresize -s /dev/sda3 But, I need to know how to specify the size to resize.08:31
kyncaniBogus8: well, try running debian sid for some time and you're more likely to understand that specifically replacing sysvinit with upstart is a bother.08:31
|_ockebut i logged in, startx didnt work,tried to install NVIDIA drivers manually, gave about 40 errors but said it completed, though didnt work08:31
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lockdaba_ec: just not "same privileges" as root08:31
nixternalhaha08:31
SuperLagyou guys getting slow connections to the mirrors tonight? or is it just me?08:31
|_ockei need some more options08:31
Bogus8e-Hernick: I'm going to give it a go... I REALLY want to try and like ubuntu08:31
|_ockei need a cigarette now though08:31
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|_ockedamn..08:32
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JamesinatorThanks08:32
gonzoismGothCloud  you using gnome or kde ?   try fluxbox. i'm dual processors, 2.8 ghz i think and i love flux.  been using it since like 2002 or something08:32
kyncaniBogus8: if you don't have the package selection already made for you08:32
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Bogus8kyncani: I run sid and etchy... more so etchy than sid... and I've had no real problems08:32
bmachineanyone like the fluxbox ?08:32
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korovyovhey--im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop--cd worked fine on my desktop so its not a bad burn08:32
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GothCloudgonzoism: Ubuntu, gnome I think08:32
Myrttiargghh.08:32
rxKaffee<3 fluxbox on gentu08:32
e-HernickSithe: no, it's all good. What happened is that (probably before you switched to fglrx) ubuntu misdetected the specifications of your monitor.. by deleting those two lines, you tell X and fglrx to autodetect the specs (capabilities) of your monitor every time it starts08:32
rxKaffee*gentoo08:32
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kyncaniBogus8: oh, thought you were not aware of these problem, sorry :)08:32
gonzoismbmachine  yeah08:32
gnuskoolbmachine, flux is my default08:32
e-HernickSithe: if you know the specs of your monitor, you can hardcode them in xorg.conf and save a few milliseconds every time you start X08:32
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lockde-Hernick: you said you knew of a graphical equivalent to gnu screen08:32
neozenbmachine: for lightweight systems, I prefer xfce08:32
rxKaffeeI run gnome on my intel 1ghz box with 512mb, I have beryl running, its pretty smooth08:32
JamesinatorCripes, ubot3 is still on the loose08:33
e-Hernicklockd: yes, it's called nx08:33
Bogus8kyncani: I'm not experiencing problems with debian08:33
korovyovbut during bootup it flashes bug and some numbers and then panels dont appear08:33
bmachineneozen, xface eh?08:33
Sithee-hernick: What specs would I need to know?08:33
Bogus8kyncani: I install the packages I need and it doesn't really force me to have stuff I don't08:33
e-HernickSithe: the HorizSync and VertRefresh08:33
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neozenbmachine: aye, xfce08:33
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JamesinatorThank you, finally. :D08:33
neozengoes like hell on this 1.4ghz08:33
GothCloudand another ban to the huge banlist08:33
Sithee-Hernick: Is there any windows program that can do that? I have windows on this computer too, on a different harddrive08:33
ggoogiaba_ec: I don't want to give the non-root user A a root privilege.08:33
Bogus8kyncani: example I don't need a VOIP client but ubuntu devs seem to think I do... so I think it needs to be removed08:33
kyncaniBogus8: ;) Switched from sid to gutsy 10 months ago because i would spend too much time with sid :)08:33
neozenthough I suppose anything would..08:33
e-HernickSithe: you can learn what they are by taking a look at your /var/log/Xorg.log.0 (or similar name) that will contain the results of the autodetection08:34
todkonI just installed Ubuntu 7.04 and it says during start up that Apt-get isn't installed... then i type reboot and GDM starts... How do I fix the startup problem?08:34
e-HernickSithe: but you really don't need to have them in there08:34
Bogus8kyncani: did you try etchy?08:34
e-HernickSithe: they'll be autodetected just fine08:34
lockde-Hernick: it does support graphics rendering? plus, I found client hard to build, and the closed source one outright crashed08:34
e-HernickI mean, you've got 1680x1060 now?08:34
Sithee-Hernick: Thats cool. Few miliseconds doesn't matter to me08:34
e-Hernick105008:34
kyncaniBogus8: drivers and kernel problems (at the very least)08:34
bmachineneozen, does it minimalize the work area ?08:34
gnuskoolGh0st, i dont know the command myself, i use the graphical option which is a bootcd called parted magic, i may have mentioned it to you earlier.its a small download, looks and works like partmagic, so you just type in the size you want or drag the pointer, try it if all else fails, its by far the easiest08:34
lockde-Hernick: I had more luck with dxpc which does not have the screen like features08:34
korovyovhey--im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop--cd worked fine on my desktop so its not a bad burn08:34
korovyovhey--im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop--cd worked fine on my desktop so its not a bad burn08:34
aba_ecggoogi: please give us some aditional information08:34
korovyovbut during bootup it flashes bug and some numbers and then panels dont appear08:34
Bogus8kyncani: with etchy?08:34
neozenbmachine: what do you mean?08:34
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e-Hernicklockd: nx is a pain to get working08:35
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Sithee-Hernick: Should I stick with fglrx or switch back to ATI drivers? I think the ATI driver is what messed it up in the first place08:35
rxKaffeeggoogi: add your "special" user to a group that other users are not in, run a crontab periodically to chown/chmod all users files to be writable by that group08:35
kyncaniBogus8: with ubuntu 6.10 even ...08:35
e-Hernicklockd: but when it works, it's awesome08:35
neozenbmachine: you can have it take up as much or as little as you want08:35
Twombyis there a graphical configuration tool for samba in feisty fawn, or is everyting still configurable via smb.conf ?08:35
rxKaffeee-Hernick: it ran pretty easy for me, after I realised I needed the same version number for both client and server08:35
kyncaniBogus8: and i have yet to see debian get a new version in a timely manner ... ...08:35
ggoogiaba_ec: what additional info? i want a non-root user to be able to read and write some other users' files.08:35
GothCloudI am thinking about going from Ubuntu to Solaris 10....08:35
rxKaffeeit didn't seem to have any better features than vnc though to me08:35
e-HernickSithe: You'll have to try both out. Save your xorg.conf, try switching to the ati driver, see if it works better for you. If it doesn't, switch back to your olf xorg.conf08:35
neozenbmachine: think of it as anemic gnome... that still supports gtk themes08:35
GothCloudany good?08:35
e-Hernicks/olf/old/08:35
bmachineneozen, well fluxbox focalizes in just giving your right click on desktop option to open your files apps, etc.08:35
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Gh0stGnuskool: hm...Well, I don't have that on here...(Jeez, this was unexpected...I expected to be running Ubuntu off hard disk by now...).08:36
Bogus8kyncani: understood with that... but I don't feel like "deadlines" are good when you are dealing with creativity like programming08:36
lockde-Hernick: I just hope someone backports the features to the server-proxy and client-proxy model (which the "delta" compression X uses)08:36
bmachineneozen, makes it cleaner and gives more window to use08:36
Bogus8kyncani: want a great example of that look at Vista ;)08:36
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ggoogirxKaffee: thanks. i will try that.08:36
e-Hernickmy experience is that there are two good video drivers for linux.. the intel open source driver, and the nvidia closed-source driver08:36
neozenI've found the notes one particularly useful08:36
kyncaniBogus8: yeah, but the result is that my harware, already not supported with etch, may not be supported for quite some time ... so it's a no-go :(08:36
Sithee-Hernick: I didn't like ATI, WoW and CSS were crashing. Does fglrx lack any quality that ATI doesn't?08:36
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e-HernickSithe: I don't know.08:37
neozenand the themes.. sooo pretty08:37
kyncaniBogus8: I miss the strict debian policies though :'(08:37
aba_ecgooggi: put all the users in the same group08:37
lockde-Hernick: I'm looking forward to getting a box with intel card, even though nVidia is good08:37
Bogus8kyncani: seems like just like in ubuntu you just need a well motivated debian guy to make that hardware work... luck of the draw?08:37
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rxKaffeeany ideas what would cause ubuntu's graphical user creation tool to create directorys in the created user's homedir that are owned by root? Pictures, Music, Documents, etc.08:37
aba_ecggoogi: and give write access to the group (chmod)08:37
bmachineneozen, i think i'll try it08:37
kyncaniBogus8: Well, i worked in feisty alpha in december 2006 ...08:38
rxKaffeeaba_ec: but then each user could edit the others' files08:38
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gnuskoolGh0st, just checking, are you dual-booting? are you running gparted from within your primary linux installation?08:38
gnuskoolGh0st, what i mean is, are you trying to resize a partition youre booting from+08:38
Sithee-Hernick: Thanks for all your help! You should charge for your services! lol08:38
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neozenbmachine: you'll find a shot of what mine used to look like before I stripped it down here: http://neozen.homelinux.org/index.png08:38
rxKaffeeaba_ec: and you'd have to rely on them having a common shell init file to umask the files to group write08:38
Bogus8kyncani: I just found a fortune cookie app installed... really is that needed? ;)08:38
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e-HernickSithe: I usually do :)08:38
GothCloudIs solaris 10 any better/worse than Ubuntu 7.04?08:39
sauvinWorse, I'd think.08:39
rxKaffeesolaris is still on version 10?08:39
Gh0stGnuskool: Haha. I'm trying to format the partition to install Ubuntu to so I CAN boot fomr that partition.08:39
kyncaniBogus8: yeah, but for an average user, it's the way it should be.08:39
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kyncaniBogus8: i mean, newcomers don't even know gnome or kde !08:39
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e-HernickGothCloud: It depends on what you plan to do with it. If you're trying to build a RAID-Z+ZFS-backed Samba server, Opensolaris is the only choice.08:39
Bogus8kyncani: a fortune cookie app?  two works for ya.... come on! ;)08:39
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rxKaffeeBogus8: you want an os that installs minimal utilities? put on Gentoo or Slackware08:39
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GothCloude-Hernick: Just compare the two08:40
Sailinghi08:40
GothCloudIs that i want to do08:40
rxKaffeeBogus8: Ubuntu's meant to be "shiny" as it comes out of the box08:40
e-HernickGothCloud: Well, you should install both.08:40
kyncaniBogus8: well, yeah :) rotfl08:40
aba_ecrxKaffee: ok08:40
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Bogus8rxKaffee: I just wish I could have had an option... and I'm not complaining about the apps as much as me and kyncani are just discussing the pro's and con's of it08:40
GothCloude-Hernick: Okay, thx08:40
SitheSorry to ask this here but noone in the cedega channel is responding. Does anyone have WoW running with cedega? Or know the appropriate settings to use with a given graphics card/driver?08:40
e-HernickGothCloud: this is for a server-type application, right?08:40
e-HernickGothCloud: if so, you should compare ubuntu server edition with opensolaris express08:41
rxKaffeeBogus8: I believe there's a text-installer for ubuntu that allows individual package de-selection08:41
GothCloude-Hernick: Just see which I like better for a Desktop OS08:41
e-HernickGothCloud: oh, there is no question about that, Ubuntu is by far the best desktop OS08:41
e-Hernickthere is no hesitation to be had here08:41
e-HernickUbuntu all the way08:41
GothCloudokay08:41
Bogus8rxKaffee: I looked around on the boot screen and couldn't find anything... so I just went with it08:41
kyncaniBogus8: Maybe some big metapackages, not just ubuntu and kubuntu in an interface ala automatix-like would do it08:41
Twombyis there a graphical configuration tool for samba in feisty fawn, or is everyting still configurable via smb.conf ?08:41
jetscreamer!info usplash08:41
ubotuusplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4-44 (feisty), package size 22 kB, installed size 144 kB08:41
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neozenbmachine: and here's what it looks like post retrofit: http://silenceisdefeat.org/~neozen/ss.png08:41
e-HernickTwomby: samba has been shipping with a web configuration interface (SWAT) for a long time08:42
Bogus8kyncani: yeah, I just don't like the "meta package" naming scheme... it makes it seem very important when apparently it isn't08:42
kyncaniBogus8: well, it's much better thant tasksel08:42
e-HernickBogus8: naming things is all about compromise08:42
gnuskoolGh0st, pastebin fdisk -l08:42
e-HernickBogus8: if you want to complain about something, complain about how all KDE apps must start or end by a K :)08:43
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Bogus8e-Hernick: yeah, but "ubuntu-desktop" is quite intimidating to say "yeah, remove that"08:43
Gh0stGnuskool: Pastebin?08:43
lockde-Hernick: ooh, just discovered something called xmove08:43
rxKaffeedotcom08:43
kyncaniI complain about some kde apps *not* starting with a K for myself08:43
Sailingany one from china?08:43
e-HernickBogus8: indeed, but when you remove apps parts of the base ubuntu-desktop collection, you don't quite have a normal ubuntu desktop anymore08:43
Bogus8e-Hernick: well, at least you know what it belongs to... I don't mind that sort of thing.... but yeah... I'm sure they could have done something better08:43
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Gh0stGnuskool: Is that a lower-case L?08:44
bjameshi all08:44
Twombye-Hernick : Thanks, I'll check this out08:44
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Twomby:)08:44
e-HernickBogus8: users shouldn't be encouraged to remove default apps08:44
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kyncaniAnd if I remember correctly, the upgrade path 6.10->7.04 involves reinstalling ubuntu-desktop if you removed it ...08:44
e-Hernickhaving a set of apps shared by all ubuntu desktops is a good idea..08:44
wallsI put the iso file into a CD-R CD and it doesnt boot at startup, can someone please help (yes, my Boot priorety is set to have CD rom as #1)08:44
|_ockegah08:44
|_ocke:(08:44
Bogus8e-Hernick: no but "ubuntu-desktop" sounds like it's going to remove X or something (especially for the inexperienced)08:44
|_ockei want my opengl :(:(:(08:44
e-HernickBogus8: I suppose so..08:44
Bogus8e-Hernick: they should all be using "fortune cookie"? LOL08:44
|_ockeBogaurd, ubuntu-desktop is the default desktop environment under gnome08:44
|_ockeer08:44
|_ockeBogus8,08:45
rxKaffeewalls: is it a finalized single session cdr with proper bootup files?08:45
GothCloudI tried having Ubuntu load in a virtual PC, but the graphics are all screwed up08:45
kyncaniWell, if dependencies were strict, it _should_ remove X ...08:45
e-HernickBogus8: of course, fortune has been shipping with UNIX for decades, it's an undying tradition08:45
Bogus8|_ocke: I was told it was a meta package and not really needed08:45
bjamesI remember reading about an application that acts as a shortcut to lots of other applications - you just start typing and it finds programs, searches the internet, etc. Now I've found the Windows version "launchy" but what is the Linux version called?08:45
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neozene-Hernick: if experienced users don't use it ... why have it eat up disk space.... then again... one could postulate that such "experienced users" wouldn't use an ubuntu08:45
|_ockei dont have fortune :(08:45
rxKaffeewalls: and did you burn it as an image, or data file?08:45
e-Hernickdisk space08:45
Bogus8e-Hernick: well, aside from that there are others that don't need to be there08:45
e-Hernickyou're talking about experienced users caring about disk space?08:45
|_ockeBogus8, yes, in a sense, but its the default graphical interface for ubuntu08:45
|_ockethat is what is installed so you can have the gnome desktop08:45
bjamesdash?08:45
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e-Hernickabout saving 500 megs by uninstalling apps? on a desktop distribution?08:45
e-HernickI don't think so, this is 200708:46
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e-Hernickyou don't uninstall apps because you're out of disk space08:46
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lockdexperienced users have cash08:46
GothCloude-Hernick: I do :D08:46
bjameskatapult?08:46
e-Hernickyou do it because you're a neatfreak who doesn't want cluttered menus08:46
Bogus8e-Hernick: I install systems that go into the gulf of mexico weekly... so I set up "default/base" systems all the time... and I give somethings they dont' "need" but it's only things like GAIM and such... which lots SHOULD use vs trying to install the real yahoo client08:46
rxKaffeeGothCloud: thats only because you don't have enough pr0n08:46
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lockdunless they -teach- IT08:46
wallsrxKaffee: oh i see my problem =) it needs to be burned as an image right?08:46
Bogus8e-Hernick: and plus they use what I say they use ;)08:46
Gh0stWow. I'm pretty confused, now.08:46
xylanmorning08:46
neozene-Hernick: lol... this is true08:46
Bogus8|_ocke: we'll see, I'm about to pull it08:47
neozene-Hernick: I'm all about killing the clutter08:47
rxKaffeewalls: correct, if you view the cdr in mycomputer or such after burning, it should have several directorys showing, rather than an ubuntu-install.iso or such08:47
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kyncaniBogus8: yeah, but these system have a professionnal to set them up (you)08:47
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wallsok thanks rxKaffee!08:47
rxKaffeewalls: no problem, good luck08:47
gnuskoolGh0st, yah its lowercase l. goto pastebin.com. open xterm, type in fdisk -l, copy the results, paste it into the text area in pastebin.com, enter your name etc, then youll be given a url, copy that url, give that to me here, so i can see what xtrem said to you hehe08:47
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e-Hernickkyncani: exactly.. managed computers where the users aren't root..08:47
Bogus8kyncani: right... I'm just saying I'm not going to install gimp on these systems because they would never use them08:47
Bogus8hell most average users would never use gimp on linux... it's too complex08:48
rxKaffeeI've never met a user who never needed to edit an image08:48
Bogus8and I use photoshop08:48
GothCloudI wonder if Photoshop CS3 will run in wine08:48
rxKaffeegimp is WAY easier than photoshop08:48
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e-HernickGIMP isn't that hard08:48
neozenBogus8: I spent about 3 hours in gimp one day08:48
kyncaniYeah, average users would not even know how to install gimp if it was not already there08:48
Bogus8rxKaffee: it's just too complex for your average user08:48
GothCloudrxKaffee: I find the contrary08:48
rxKaffeethe only decent photo editor thats easier than gimp is paintshop pro version 508:48
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kyncaniOr they would download gimp on gimp.org and then wonder how to install it :'(08:48
Bogus8hmm I'm dense then... I use PS with no problems but gimp gives me trouble08:48
neozenBogus8: haven't poked it since..... but its nice to know its there if I need it08:48
Bogus8(the windows version at least)08:48
rxKaffeeBogus8: which did you "learn" first? PS or Gimp?08:49
GothCloudPS08:49
Bogus8rxKaffee: PS08:49
rxKaffeeits harder to unlearn bad habbits than to start new ones08:49
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kyncaniPaint here :)08:49
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Bogus8rxKaffee: understandable... but I can objectively look at apps usually from a fresh user prospective08:49
top10kI bet you are08:49
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e-HernickWell, let's not think for a second that the GIMP is anywhere near as powerful as the ultimate program, Photoshop...08:49
neozenheh... all hail the win31 pbrush.exe!!!!08:49
kyncani:))08:50
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Bogus8I actually learned on mac's paint back in the 80's08:50
top10kCorel Photo maybe?08:50
Bogus8black and white baby08:50
e-HernickGIMP is more like Paint Shop Pro08:50
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gnuskoolGh0st, you enter it as Leon?08:50
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kyncaniGvim for windows, yeah ! (curse them)08:51
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neozen...................I prefer regular vim08:51
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rxKaffeeI prefer nano08:51
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e-Hernickmy favourite windows app is putty08:51
e-HernickI used to like nano08:51
neozento each their own... that's what linux is all about08:51
e-HernickI put off learning vim for like 8 years08:51
neozenlol08:51
e-Hernicknow I cannot understand why I didn't learn it sooner..08:51
neozenme too08:52
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e-Hernickand I hate myself for not having memorized all commands yet08:52
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e-Hernickvim is so much more powerful than I know how to use it..08:52
neozennow I want to scream at an ide when I whack esc-dd and the line doesn't disappear08:52
rxKaffeethe only thing about nano that I dislike is skipping long distances into the middle of a line on an uberlaggy connection08:52
godlygeekvim rules. :)08:52
kyncaniEspecially when you're stuck on some very old unices08:52
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gnuskoolGh0st, ok you nearly there, but first open a terminal, you know how?, its the same place where youre trying to resize the partition from i think, so, go there and type in fdisk -l, copy the result and paste it into pastebin08:52
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e-Hernickwhile vim is awesome, emacs is the devil...08:53
godlygeektrying to install from a livecd, i get "the file system... assigned to / has not been marked for formatting..." and it won't let me install there... is there any way around that?  I know you can install without reformatting from the alt cd's...08:53
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e-Hernickemacs users go home!08:53
neozene-Hernick: I've got a buddy who does lisp development for a living.... he lives in emacs08:54
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Gh0s1Hello?08:54
godlygeekemacs does, indeed, suck.  so does lisp.  X-p08:54
Gh0s1>.<08:54
rxKaffeeGh0s1: hiroshiX08:54
rxKaffeeer08:54
rxKaffee*hi08:54
e-Hernickneozen: well, a lisp/emacs master is a force to be reckoned with08:54
kyncaniVery good for ada too08:54
gnuskoolGhos1, same as Gh0st??08:54
e-Hernickneozen: but those people do not thing as we do08:54
e-Hernicks/thing/think/08:54
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Gh0s1Gnuskool: Yes. Something messed up on connection.08:54
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neozenI've just gotten stuck on vim with syntax highlighting......08:55
Gh0s1Gnuskool: I opend xterm and typed in fdisk -l. I didn't get anything.08:55
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godlygeekhaha, try though i might, i'll never be able to think as a functional programmer.  recursion instead of loops... *shudder*08:55
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gnuskoolGh0s1, you in livecd?08:55
Gh0s1Yes.08:55
neozensuch a simple thing that I had never encountered before outside of a full on (and slow as hell) IDE... in such a small tight package08:55
rxKaffee-l sweetch needs root-permissions08:56
neozennow.. I fly around in vim08:56
rxKaffeesudo or su, or somesuch08:56
neozenseems almost flow of consciousness08:56
e-Hernickmy favourite, sudo su -08:56
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Gh0s1Thanks, rxKafee08:56
neozene-Hernick: sudo -s08:56
kyncanisudo -i08:56
neozendoes the same thing08:56
gnuskoolgh0s1, how about cfdisk08:56
godlygeeke-Hernick: sudo -s -H08:56
gnuskoolgh0s1, how about or parted?08:57
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bz0bhey everyone08:57
Gh0s1Got FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive08:57
neozenand semi-autocompletion.... oh how I adore it08:57
bz0bdoes anyone here have a ubundell08:57
rxKaffeeso nobody use the graphical interface to manage(add/delete) user accounts?08:57
neozenrxKaffee: never touched it08:57
e-Hernicksudo su - is prettier than sudo -s -H08:57
godlygeekrxKaffee: command line is better.  :)08:57
neozenrxKaffee: there is one?08:57
gnuskoolgh0s1, or parted i meant to say08:57
godlygeeke-Hernick: might as well do 'sudo bash', then08:58
rxKaffeeneozen: I'm told thats where the Pictures, Templates, Documents directorys came from08:58
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Gh0s1Wait...Now I;m getting confused...08:58
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gnuskoolGh0s1, sudo fdisk?08:58
e-Hernickgodlygeek: no, doesn't so the same thing08:58
kyncanigodlygeek: sudo bash won't execute /etc/profile as root08:58
neozenlol08:58
neozenright08:58
Gh0s1I typed in sudo fdisk -l.08:58
neozennight all08:58
Gh0s1Then I got something.08:58
Bogus8why does my app go black and white?08:58
gnuskoolGh0s1, paste into pastebin08:59
Gh0s1Ok.08:59
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kyncaniBogus8: because you removed ubuntu-desktop ;) (kidding)08:59
Bogus8kyncani: LOL it was doing that before :p08:59
bz0bdoes anyone know where i can find this driver08:59
bz0b03:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd Unknown device 083208:59
godlygeekkyncani: ah.  didn't know that.  *shrug*, i've been a proud zsh user for 2 or 3 years now, forgot a lot of my bash knowledge08:59
Bogus8kyncani: I was just googling it trying to figure it out on my own08:59
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Gh0s1Gnuskool: http://pastebin.com/m783976009:00
kyncaniBogus8: well, must be the fortune thing then ;)09:00
GothCloudmore!09:00
Bogus8kyncani: I hadn't removed anything at that point :p09:00
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wnetwww.yoga82ss@yahuu.com09:00
Gh0s1Gnuskool: Do you want to show you you what I'm trying to do in gparted?09:00
Bogus8kyncani: from what I've gathered on google it might be related to compiz09:01
kyncanigodlygeek: do manual partition and don't reformat09:01
Bogus8(I am running desktop effects)09:01
godlygeeknobody has a clue?  There really oughta be SOME way to override that... a "yes i know what i'm doing" switch...09:01
GothCloudIt is amazing how something so random can stop a 1000 user room from saying anything for 10 seconds :P09:01
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godlygeekkyncani: Doesn't help.  it tells me that09:01
bz0bhow do i install compiz09:01
wnetwww.friendster.com09:01
rxKaffee"manual" partition config on my install forced format on / also09:01
GothCloudI agree, is there a way to stop the partition from being so large as well?09:01
GothCloudI only want a 10GB partition09:01
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Bogus8bz0b: it is installed I think... turn on desktop effects09:02
godlygeekGothCloud: THAT, you can do with a manual partition.09:02
kyncanigodlygeek, rxKaffee: well, that's how i installed this box without reformating (debian sid -> ubuntu transition)09:02
Gh0s1rxKaffee: I'm having a lot of trouble with this.09:02
gnuskoolGh0st, go on then, lets see09:02
jetscreameri asked once and was told no you have to format09:02
Bogus8bz0b: I'm new so don't qoute me but it seems that way to me09:02
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EJhow the heck do i make php-nuke connect to MySQL database !!!! i've done itone other Distros but it wont do iton this one, i've created the database via command lin, phpnuke and MySQL-Admin and it keeps timing out on me.09:02
Gh0s1Gnuskool: Ok. Hold on.09:02
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godlygeekkyncani: it might be new as of gutsy, which i'm trying to try.09:02
jetscreameri found that kinda <i9nsert non-pc sexual reference here>09:02
HiFiJiveEj have you started the MYSQLD?09:02
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kyncanigodlygeek: eek, hope it's a gutsy bug then09:02
godlygeekkyncani: I wiped the entire disk except for /home, why won't it just let me keep that!  lol09:02
EJerr command line ,phpmyadmin and MySQL-Admin09:03
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MasterShreki have problems with programs not being able to find libgtk-1.2.so.0   im using amd64 and have the required pacakges installed09:03
kyncanigodlygeek: i did the same thing with feisty09:03
EJ[ HiFiJive] : yes MySQL is running09:03
rxKaffeeEJ: does nuke give any error debugging?09:03
EJyeah 1 sec09:03
EJFatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /var/www/install/install2.php on line 14009:03
HiFiJivehah09:03
EJit does that when it tries to set up tables09:03
HiFiJiveedit your php.ini09:03
HiFiJivefor max execution limit09:04
rxKaffeethats an apachee error isn't it?09:04
bz0bBogus8, wow  thanks man i like this how do i see them all as a cube09:04
godlygeekkyncani: "feature"... definitely and precisely warns you that a partition selected as /, /boot, /usr, or /var must be reformatted, but not one selected as /home, /media, /usr/local, etc...09:04
xoRockguys, just curious, wich one is better koffice vs openoffice?09:04
godlygeekxoRock: abiword.  :)09:04
Bogus8bz0b: roll an app around the corner... or flip desktops on the switcher09:04
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rxKaffeeHiFiJive: if its working properly, there's no reason nuke should take more than 30 sec09:04
godlygeekxoRock: If you need excel, openoffice, if you only need word, abiword.09:04
kyncanigodlygeek: ... stupid braindead feature ...09:04
Bogus8bz0b: I really don't know much about this... just got it set up tonight09:04
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godlygeekkyncani: Agreed.  I don't have enough space to juggle that directory to some other drive...09:05
Gh0s1Gnuskool & rxKaffee: http://i16.tinypic.com/6aess4i09:05
Bogus8bz0b: if you find a good reference for "tricks" let me know I haven't had a chance to look yet09:05
HiFiJiveUbuntu 7.02 will not boot on my Neo2 915p/g w/nvidia 7600gs09:05
Gh0s1That's what I want to do with the partition.09:05
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xoRockgodlygeek, ^^ how about koffice?09:05
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kyncanigodlygeek: well, i guess you could make a small partition, install ubuntu on it, then just move everything onto your big partition and set up fstab and grub then09:05
godlygeekkyncani: Yeh, i think i'm gonna have to.09:06
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godlygeekkyncani: that was my fallback plan, heh09:06
kyncanigodlygeek: if there really is no way to tell the installer not to reformat09:06
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rxKaffeeGh0s1: I don't know anything about gpartd, sorry09:06
godlygeekkyncani: not one that i can see.  :)09:06
kyncaniGoddamn braindead feature ...09:06
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godlygeekkyncani: it was discussed in this channel a few months ago, and the only responses were "don't do that"09:06
bz0bbrb09:06
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godlygeekxoRock: never played around much with koffice09:06
godlygeekxoRock: It didn't SEEM to have support for .ppt's09:07
GhostrxKaffee: It's ok. >.<09:07
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xoRockgodlygeek, ic ok09:07
godlygeekxoRock: And since i need to use those occassionally, i needed to have ooo installed.09:07
kyncanigodlygeek: or you could use debootstrap but it will take more time i think09:07
Twomby "Nautilus cannot display "smb://desktoptommy/f/music"  Please select another viewer and try again --> I always get this error when trying to access my Windows box.  Any insights ?09:07
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godlygeekxoRock: and i figured, no reason for both ooo and koffice.09:07
HiFiJiveanyone here have MSI neo2 915 Mobo?09:07
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EJ[ HiFiJive] : whats a good time limit 120 ?09:08
Johnyluvmay i get a lil help please09:08
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rxKaffeeEJ: I think the better route would be figuring out why its taking so long to execute09:08
HiFiJivewhats its default value?09:08
EJ[ HiFiJive] : 3009:08
Johnyluvfrom someone. wondering how can transfer files09:08
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godlygeekkyncani: and i know nothing about debootstrap.  I'll just try to turn off my swap partition, grow it, install ubuntu, mv the files back to where i want them, and reformat as swap.09:08
Johnyluvit will not let me09:08
godlygeekkyncani: here goes nothing.  :)09:08
godlygeekJohnyluv: Transfer files... where?  and how?09:09
jetscreameror just use debian :o09:09
kyncanigodlygeek: seems right09:09
jetscreameromg did i say that?09:09
jetscreamer:)09:09
Bogus8OT, where does the "halalalalalalalalalal!" that the arab people do come from?09:09
sauvinI think that's what Johnyluv is trying to ask :D09:09
Johnyluvwonderful ill get to you right now God09:09
HiFiJivedid you apt-get myphpadmin?09:09
Sithee-Hernick: Hey can you help me again lol?09:09
ashrafcan I raise some issues with open office/09:09
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godlygeekJohnyluv: Over a network?  between directories?09:09
EJ[ HiFiJive] : yes i have phpmyadmin09:09
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Johnyluvpc with me09:09
Johnyluvsomeone to help me with this problem09:09
godlygeekashraf: issues with open office don't really belong here.09:09
gnuskoolGh0st, i minute mate09:09
godlygeekJohnyluv: you need to explain what problem you're having.09:09
Gh0stGnuskool: Ok. No problem.09:10
EJ[ HiFiJive] : i can import the .sql file but it dosent matter when i got to install php-nuke, it still times out09:10
Bogus8EJ: he asked if you used apt-get to install it... not IF you had it09:10
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SitheWhen I type fglrxinfo its not recognizing my graphics card.. How can I get it to?09:10
godlygeekrsync, scp, mv - all valid ways to move files around. :)09:10
EJ[ Bogus8] : and i said yes09:10
kyncanigodlygeek: what if the swap partition is now mandatory :D ?09:10
kyncani(just kidding)09:10
rxKaffeegodlygeek: I don't believe any of those deal with special/block files ver ywell though09:10
sauvinJohnyluv, nobody can help you until we have an idea of what you're asking FOR.09:10
Bogus8EJ: you said "yes I have phpmyadmin" that doesn't answer his question accurately09:10
Johnyluvum.. GODLYGEEK.09:10
Johnyluvjust a lil help please.09:11
Johnyluvsomeone,09:11
jetscreamerinstall fglrx09:11
Bogus8EJ: you could have compiled from source09:11
Bogus8or tarball09:11
EJwhy do that when theres apt-get. ive used slackware for years and have had to compile from source, and thats why i am trying this os09:11
Johnyluvhow come my file will not get transerd to my friends09:11
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godlygeekrxKaffee: tar -czvf - / | ssh remotehost "tar -zxvf -" or some such.  :)09:11
Johnyluvi m trying to send a file but it will not go anywher09:12
Johnyluvall i get is this09:12
JohnyluvPrivate messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )09:12
sauvinJohnyluv, how are you trying?09:12
Johnyluv?09:12
Johnyluvwell just regular sending file.09:12
godlygeekOH!09:12
sauvinHrm... yo're trying to dcc send a file!?09:12
godlygeekJohnyluv: Register.09:12
rxKaffeeJohnyluv: you have to register your name with nickserv09:12
Bogus8EJ: because some people prefer to or just don't know better... I'm sure he was just making sure you guys were on the same page09:12
rxKaffeeJohnyluv: or if it is already, you have to dientify to nickserv09:12
EJ[ Bogus8] : if you not going to help me plz leave me alone09:12
SitheWhen I type fglrxinfo its not recognizing my graphics card.. How can I get it to?09:12
Johnyluvlol09:12
Bogus8EJ: it almost sounded like you had installed via tarball and was evading the question... but obviously you weren't09:12
Johnyluvam i being blocked?09:12
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Johnyluvok who will explain it to me , on here just find me and lets talk about this.09:13
Bogus8EJ: you are welcome to /ignore me... I was only trying to help from any confusion... jackass09:13
Geek_back09:13
kyncaniJohnyluv: no, you need to register to freenode09:13
Johnyluvsorry bogus09:13
Johnyluvok thanks09:13
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Bogus8Johnyluv: you did nothing to me... it wasn't directed at you09:14
EJ[ Bogus8] : np *ignore*09:14
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Bogus8good09:14
Johnyluvok.. i m just a lil scared lol i mean to me you guys are freaken smart as hell.09:14
drumline_I've always had the feeling that upgrades leave the system with orphaned files and little loose ends...  does that happen with an Ubuntu upgrade?09:14
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Johnyluvim just new at this09:14
rxKaffeeEJ: nuke is using the same hostname and port as phpmyadmin?09:14
Bogus8Johnyluv: it comes with time... dont' panic :)09:14
Johnyluvcuz my friend wanted me to join it so we can exchange music from CALI to, NY09:14
godlygeekkyncani: lmao: gparted just segfaulted... I'm beginning to think i should let someone ELSE work out the problems in gutsy...09:14
|_ockecrap i just dropped my lighter IN my computer09:14
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rxKaffeeJohnyluv: /msg nickserv help register09:15
Johnyluvok Bogus..09:15
sauvinWe're not as "smart" as you think; we're just playing in our own private sandbox. :D09:15
rxKaffeeJohnyluv: type that09:15
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Johnyluvim going to  send you a privet messge09:15
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drumline_Question; I've always had the feeling that upgrades leave the system with orphaned files and little loose ends...  does that happen with an Ubuntu upgrade?09:15
Bogus8Johnyluv: you can try me if you would like09:15
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Johnyluvby the way i am one handed, just letting you guys know09:15
Johnyluvits hard for me to type09:15
rxKaffeeJohnyluv: you probably can not send a private message until you register with nickserv09:15
Johnyluvsorry if my spelling is not up to par09:15
sauvinI know people who type with ONE FINGER. So what?09:15
kyncanigodlygeek: seems reasonable09:15
Bogus8Johnyluv: you seem to be doing just as well as anyone... but you will need to register like rxKaffee is saying09:16
Gh0stWell...I'll just wait for gnuskool so sign back on.09:16
Johnyluvok09:16
rxKaffeeJohnyluv: do you use qwerty keyboard layout?09:16
Geek_|_ocke: torchlight and forceps? ;)09:16
Johnyluvwwhat site do i go to.09:16
kyncanigodlygeek: what were you trying to do with gparted ?09:16
Johnyluvor is there a menue i can hit09:16
rxKaffeeJohnyluv: there are some dvorak software layouts that are optomized for one handed typeing09:16
ashrafPlease tell me which channel discusses Open office problems09:16
Gh0stGeek_: This is pretty funny/annoying.09:16
Bogus8Johnyluv: no site... scroll up and look he said type /msg nickserv help register09:16
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godlygeekkyncani: it doesn't seem that the partition editor as part of the install will let me do all the partition manipulation that i needed.09:17
drumline_ashraf: maybe fsf.. dunno09:17
Geek_Gh0st: my dissappearing? ;) sorry about that, parents getting a new aircon it..09:17
Gh0stGeek_: Oh, not not that. My situation. Still can't fix this partitioning problem.09:17
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Johnyluvok09:17
kyncanigodlygeek: maybe gparting with feisty's livecd would work, if you really want to test gutsy that is09:17
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Geek_Gh0st: its a little late, but maybe use wubi initially?09:18
Johnyluvwait do i uninstall it or install it again?09:18
godlygeekkyncani: the heck with it.  if it's working so poorly i can't even install it fresh from CD...09:18
Geek_ashraf: there's apparently a #openoffice09:18
Gh0stGeek_: wubi?09:18
godlygeekkyncani: (This after a dist-upgrade attempt left a system unbootable)...09:18
Johnyluvwho was helping me again?09:18
kyncanirotfl09:18
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Geek_wubi is a way to install and uninstall ubuntu from windows09:19
godlygeekkyncani: I was never terribly impressed with edgy, either...09:19
rxKaffeeJohnyluv: for general chat usage help, please join the #freenode channel09:19
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Geek_its rather/very slow initially but its VERY easy/trouble free09:19
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godlygeekkyncani: i think i'll just use every other... dapper, feisty, and gutsy+1 are all LTS, right?09:19
Bogus8Johnyluv: you are going to have to listen to what we say man... scroll up and read it again09:19
Geek_and you can convert that to a real install later09:19
rxKaffeeJohnyluv: they'll be better equipped :)09:19
|_ockeedgy worked GREAT for me09:19
|_ockefeisty not so much :(09:19
kyncanifeisty is not lts09:19
Bogus8rxKaffee: lol09:19
kyncanigodlygeek: ^09:19
Johnyluvok09:20
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Johnyluvrxkaffee09:20
Johnyluvthanks so much09:20
godlygeekkyncani: no?  i thought it was supposed to be every other.  my mistake.09:20
Gh0stGeek_: Here's what happened after you left - I clicked apply to change the partitions, and I got an error telling me to use  ntfsresize with the -i option.09:20
Geek_its got a few issues (like downloading a 600 mb iso EVERY TIME I INSTALL) (mental note, bug report)09:20
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|_ockein fact im downright frustrated09:20
Johnyluvok .. thats if i get any one to respond lol09:20
|_ockekyncani, neither is edgy09:20
|_ockedapper is lts09:20
rxKaffeeJohnyluv: they will respond sooner or later :)09:20
Geek_Gh0st: delete the partition, then make new ones09:20
Johnyluvsad09:20
Johnyluvbro i dont understnad09:20
Johnyluvok this is frustrting09:20
Johnyluvdriveing me crazy!09:20
Gh0stGeek_: Can I do that with gparted?09:20
Geek_sure.09:21
Johnyluvi want to just send my friend a damn song09:21
Johnyluvno..09:21
godlygeekkyncani: i don't even know.  i'm running on a macbook, and earlier than edgy just doesn't work with my hardware.09:21
rxKaffeeJohnyluv: maybe your friend who wants to trade music knows how to help09:21
Johnyluvi will not give up09:21
godlygeekJohnyluv: email it to him.09:21
Bogus8Johnyluv: use xdrive.com09:21
Johnyluvhe is telling me wha tyour telling me09:21
kyncanigodlygeek: i would rather use debian etch than ubuntu dapper, but that's just me09:21
Johnyluvbut sitll i dont understand where to go09:21
rxKaffeeor sendfile.com09:21
Gh0stGeek_: Right-click sda3 and delete?09:21
rxKaffeespeaking of SDA09:21
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Geek_ja. just make sure its the right drive ;)09:21
rxKaffeewhats the deal with ubuntu renaming my ide drives as scsi devices?!09:21
Geek_*partiton09:21
Geek_rxKaffee: SATA?09:21
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|_ockei just CANT get my nvidia drivers installed in feisty09:22
|_ockeno matter what i do09:22
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Bogus8rxKaffee: is it a SATA drive?09:22
krautmoin09:22
|_ockerestricted-manager, redoing all my packages, NVIDIA-whatever.sh from nvidia.com09:22
|_ockenone work09:22
|_ockei need a cig09:22
|_ockebrb09:22
Johnyluvlol you sent me to a damn data sender thanks dude09:22
Johnyluvbut i want to use this09:22
rxKaffeeGeek_: Bogus8 nope09:23
EJ[ HiFiJive] : thank you for you help i change timeout in php.ini to 120 sec and it installed correctly this time. thank you soooooo much09:23
rxKaffeenot even running at full ata100 speeds, lol09:23
Bogus8Johnyluv: music IS data09:23
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Geek_rxKaffee: wieeerrddddd09:23
Bogus8rxKaffee: odd... built on card or 3rd party?09:23
kidbuntuhow do install Azureus_2.5.0.4_linux tarball09:23
rxKaffeewait wait... one of them is running at ata100 speed, the other, my cdrom is only at ata3309:23
godlygeekkyncani: true enough. (about dapper v etch)09:23
rxKaffeeBogus8: onboard controller09:23
kidbuntuhow do install Azureus_2.5.0.4_linux.tar.bz209:23
Bogus8rxKaffee: that is odd09:23
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Bogus8kidbuntu: by repeating over and over in the channel09:24
rxKaffeekidbuntu: sudo apt-get install azureus09:24
godlygeekJohnyluv: no offense, but #ubuntu isn't the right place to ask general IRC questions.09:24
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kidbunturxKaffee: that azureus won't work. its 2.0.0 version. if it is from apt-get09:24
Johnyluvguys i think i did it09:24
Geek_kidbuntu: why won't it work?09:25
kidbunturxKaffee: I have the Azureus_2.5.0.4_linux.tar.bz2.09:25
godlygeekkyncani: I'm running on a macbook, though.  etch doesn't support the hardware, edgy barely does, and feisty works pretty well.09:25
rxKaffeekidbuntu: what is wrong with 2.0.0 version?09:25
Johnyluvanyone wanna send me a song09:25
Johnyluvto try i tout09:25
Johnyluvanyone?09:25
kidbuntuGeek_: after installing. that azureus will just keep on exiting on its own everytime i start it up09:25
kyncanigodlygeek: yeah, that's why i'm using feisty rather thant etch here ...09:25
Johnyluvi lov eazures09:25
rxKaffeekidbuntu: you need to uncompress it and unarchive it with bunzip and tar09:25
Gh0stGeek_: I think I got it...?09:25
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rxKaffeekidbuntu: and then read the included "README" file probably09:26
Geek_Gh0st: well the, get on with the installer! ;)09:26
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rxKaffeekidbuntu: chances are it needs a ./configure followed by a make and a make install09:26
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rxKaffeekidbuntu: that should be outlined in the README file though09:26
kyncanigodlygeek: but ubuntu has never made a lts transition09:26
Bogus8kidbuntu: google will help also ;)09:26
godlygeekkyncani: i decided to try gentoo for a while...  the part that bothered me wasn't even the constant compiling, it was the fact that it had fewer apps in its repos...09:26
kidbunturxKaffee: ok. so its not just like .deb that we dpkg -i.09:26
HiFiJiveis there a hardware troubleshooting room?09:26
Geek_rxKaffee: its java, not c so its more likely not09:26
Gh0stWell, it finished the operations after applying, and...now there are two hard disk icon on my ubuntu desktop.09:26
kyncanigodlygeek: the compiling is awful09:26
luke_Hay can someone please tell me how to get more than 2 desktops??09:26
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Johnyluvanyone wanna send me a song, to see if its working?>09:26
Geek_kidbuntu: no.09:26
Johnyluvplease anyone , ;)09:26
SitheI have no kernal module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?09:26
Johnyluvlol09:26
godlygeekkyncani: distcc makes it bearable.  :)09:26
kyncanigodlygeek: especially for updates ...09:26
rxKaffeeGeek_: ooooh, had forgotten about that!09:27
gnuskoolGh0st, u still around?09:27
Gh0stGnuskool:09:27
Johnyluvme ?09:27
Gh0stYEah09:27
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Geek_forgotten what?09:27
godlygeekkyncani: haha, emerge -DuvaN world - REBUILD ALMOST EVERYTHING.  lol09:27
Johnyluvlike me ??09:27
Gh0st* Gnuskool: Yeah.09:27
Geek_oh, that ;)09:27
Johnyluvwow no one really listens09:27
kyncanigodlygeek: try taking a rather long vacation and making updates when you come back ...09:27
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luke_hello is it possable to get more than 2 desktops huh?09:27
godlygeekkyncani: yeh, i'm giving up on it after a month.09:27
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Gh0stGeek_: My desktop on ubuntu now has two hard disk icons on it. Is that right?09:27
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gnuskoolGh0st, soz, i had to reboot, listen, you need to unmount that ntfs partition, use umount command09:27
rxKaffeekidbuntu: did you try checking packages.ubuntu website to see if there's a more recent version in ubuntu's "unstable" repo?09:28
Bogus8luke_: try guessing.. like right clicking on the pager09:28
SitheI have no kernal module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?09:28
megatog615Can someone tell me the fastest and most stable filesystem for /home?09:28
Gh0stGnuskool: I think I did...09:28
Geek_Gh0st: probably.09:28
godlygeekkyncani: mostly because of reading the nightmare stories about how poorly gcc updates go.  i don't ever want to have to deal with errors like "gcc: can't create executables".  lol09:28
ballinhi i was wondering if somebody could help me with fiesty on a laptop09:28
godlygeekballin: what about it?09:28
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HiFiJiveluke I take it you didnt bother trying anything yet09:28
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godlygeekballin: something in particular not working?09:28
Gh0stGeek_: If I run gparted one more time and send you a screenshot, will you be able to tell me if it's right?09:28
kyncanigodlygeek: or updates stopping at 20% because some package would not compile and then be stuck with security holes ...09:28
Geek_Gh0st: i think so09:28
Gh0stGeek_: Ok. Hold on.09:29
Geek_no rush ;)09:29
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luke_nah i casnt find were to get more???09:29
Geek_aircon's in and dog's quieted down ;p09:29
ballini recently put it on, and i tried to use the desktop effects, but after the screen changed my screen just stayed white, now whenever i start it it just goes to a white screen, anyway of getting out of this?09:29
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Bogus8luke_: then you can't be helped ;)09:29
luke_what is the channel for the ubuntu effects09:29
ballini'd just reinstall it but the cdrom is busted and took like 3 hours to put it on the first go09:29
godlygeekgentoo, grew disenfranchised quickly, tried to install gutsy from cd, and about to frickin scream and install feisty from a CD again, lol09:29
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kyncanigodlygeek: and the libraries being updated, then some high-level apps (kde gnome) would not work and you have to compile everyghin and hope you can use your computer tomorrow ...09:30
ballinluke: what do you mean by channel?09:30
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|_ockek09:30
luke_an IRC chennal09:30
Geek_luke_  http://www.gnome.org/learn/users-guide/latest/overview-workspaces.html ?09:30
gnuskoolGeek_, u seen Gh0st's pastebin?09:30
bullgard4I have changed my Irssi config almost completely to the Freenode network. It works by and large. Are there reasons to switch over to the OFTC network?09:30
luke_cool thanx Geek09:30
Geek_gnuskool: no, just screenies09:30
ballinwhoops09:30
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Geek_OFTC?09:30
Bogus8bullgard4: why does irssi have to be set up for one vs the other09:30
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Geek_bullgard4: are there any channels on OFTC you want to go to? ;)09:31
Bogus8bullgard4: I'm on 4 different networks at all time09:31
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gnuskoolGeek_, he got a pastebin, its under his handle, but ask him for the link09:31
godlygeekkyncani: haha, gnome, kde, who needs them... all i want is w3m, vim, screen, openbox, and xterm... (and sometimes firefox)09:31
Bogus8bullgard4: including freenode AND OFTC09:31
SitheI have no kernal module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?09:31
Geek_gnuskool: and i need it cause..?09:31
Geek_;)09:31
brucewagnerhello09:31
Gh0stGeek_ * Gnuskool: Here's how gparted looks now: http://i11.tinypic.com/4lqrehi09:31
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ballini guess i gotta reinstall =/09:31
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kyncanigodlygeek: well, once even ls, rm and the like did not work after an "upgrade" ...09:32
Geek_Gh0st: your in business ;)09:32
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Geek_now you can start the install09:32
SitheI have no kernal module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?09:32
SitheI have no kernal module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?09:32
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Gh0stGeek_: That's right?!! Wait...what's with the unallocated 5MB?09:32
godlygeekkyncani: i managed to get that at least once during an ubuntu dist-upgrade, too.09:32
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Bogus8Sithe: you should repeat a lot of times in the channel... that should do the trick09:32
Geek_Gh0st: er.. rounding errors...  ;)09:32
godlygeekkyncani: libc6 half-updated.  *shudder*09:32
|_ockejohnyluv left?09:33
Geek_you can probably expand a drive to fill it up09:33
bullgard4Bogus8: My Irssi config subscribes to both networks, Freenode and OFTC. What good use could I make of OFTC?09:33
Gh0stGeek_: Um...Ok...? -Shrug.-09:33
|_ockedarn, i was just trying to send him a link to a mp3 i wanted him to hear09:33
gnuskoolGeek_, good 1, alls well that ends well i s'pose09:33
kyncanigodlygeek: well, nothing like gentoo breakage though09:33
Bogus8bullgard4: I use it to talk to people in channels on the OFTC network ;)09:33
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Geek_Bogus8: i was about to spelling correct him... K E R N E L ;)09:33
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Bogus8Geek_: LOL09:33
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godlygeekkyncani: i'm good with linux, but not great... i wound up just reinstalling from cd on that one.  how are you supposed to fix anything when you can't rm, or apt-get, or scp... lol09:34
luke_nah how do i add more workplaces????09:34
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bullgard4Geek_: Is there a list which lists all channels available on OFTC?09:34
Gh0stRunning installer now.09:34
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Geek_luke_ : i linked you just now how to09:34
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Bogus8luke_: dude, this isn't that difficult... we can only help you help yourself09:34
kyncanigodlygeek: use the ever great busybox09:34
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Bogus8and we are struggling ;)09:34
Geek_bullgard4: /list on that server. it might fail if there's too many09:34
Johnyluvanyone ever played HOMEWORLD??09:34
godlygeekkyncani: apt-get install busybox wouldn't work... lol :)09:34
r-chow do i change the icon size on my desktop?09:34
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kyncanigodlygeek: at the very least, with ubuntu, you can do a full reinstall in an hour.09:35
godlygeekkyncani: though if i had it around, i probably would have given it a shot.09:35
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ballini tried to use the desktop effects, but after the screen changed my screen just stayed white, now whenever i start it it just goes to a white screen, anyway of getting out of this, possibly though safe mode?09:35
godlygeekkyncani: true.09:35
luke_but the website just says right click on the workplace switcher and choose how many you want in the prefferances and i cant do that???09:35
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Bogus8bullgard4: there are some websites that will list channels or let you search them09:35
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dixonr-c: I think when u change the size in nautilus it will change also size on ur desktop09:35
Johnyluvok so i registerd09:35
mattiMorning :-)09:35
kyncanigodlygeek: of course, i had it around before, in prevision of some disaster09:35
Bogus8luke_: hmmm sounds just like what *I* told you to do!09:35
godlygeeki don't suppose there's some magical way to tell the live cd ubuntu to "spit out the cd and keep working so that i can burn another cd in here"...09:35
Johnyluvand i was trying to send a file "song:09:35
Johnyluvto my friend.,09:35
Johnyluvstill noting09:35
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chylliquestion: I'm runing mysql 5 on feisty. but mysql 5 didn't write anything to /var/log/mysql.err. why ?09:35
godlygeekkyncani: I'm gonna have to remember to do that in the future.09:35
JohnyluvBogus can you help me out plese09:35
luke_yeah but it doesnt WORK09:36
godlygeekkyncani: busybox is all statically-linked, right?09:36
ViRaveNuShttp://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugpackage.html09:36
ViRaveNuSall about linux09:36
Geek_godlygeek: don't think so09:36
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Johnyluvman wsih i can get some help righ tnow.09:36
Bogus8Johnyluv: you need to go to the channel of your client or #freenode, we can't help you any futher09:36
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Johnyluvsware so much info in the air09:36
r-cdixon: where would i find nautilus? i'm very new to ubuntu desktop09:36
Gh0stGeek_ & Gnuskool: One last check. Is this right: http://i18.tinypic.com/61n432c.png09:36
kyncanigodlygeek: now i keep a small debian as my first partition, in case something wrong happen in ubuntu (which it did some days ago)09:36
luke_there is noware to put how many workplaces i need09:36
bullgard4Geek_: I have been warned not to use the /list command. But you are recommending to use it. Are those warnings nonsense?09:36
SitheI have no kernel module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?09:36
Bogus8luke_: is for me and I would guess everyone else in this channel09:36
kyncanigodlygeek: busybox is an almost-all-in-one thing09:36
Johnyluvok ok ok09:37
chylliI'm runing mysql 5 on feisty. but mysql 5 didn't write anything to /var/log/mysql.err. why ? I remember mysql will write things to error log when it start up or stop09:37
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kyncanigodlygeek: just one binary with every rm, ls, ... command in it09:37
Geek_bullgard4: at worst your client will refuse, or crash09:37
Johnyluvthanks everyone, fare well.09:37
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Johnyluvits been great talking to you09:37
godlygeekkyncani: i'm somewhat limited in partition choice on this machine... of the four primary partitions i get, osx uses 2.  :(09:37
Geek_Gh0st: looks fine to me09:37
Johnyluvi guess its time to go back home.09:37
Bogus8bullgard4: worse case senario they server drops you for flooding and you reconnect09:37
luke_Bogus8: Yeah i cant enter how many i want09:37
Gh0stOh, thank god...09:37
Johnyluvto my "Homne town."09:37
dixonr-c: e.g. open ur home directory (places -> home folder) and the nautilus is opened(it's the soft for browsing ur files). then edit->preferences -> icon view defaults - set it e.g to 75%09:37
Johnyluvas bogus8 said09:37
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Johnyluvi must return to my site...09:37
Geek_Gh0st: going well? ;)09:37
gnuskoolGh0st, yeah man09:37
godlygeekkyncani: I know WHAT it is, i was just wondering if it was statically linked.  I'm almost certain it is, since it needs to work on such low-end systems.09:37
dissectionWhat do I need to do in order to play DV50 video files?09:37
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godlygeekkyncani: if it were dynamically linked, you wouldn't be able to launch it, either.  :)09:38
kyncanigodlygeek: well, debian for rescue as 3 and then ubuntu in an etended part with evrything09:38
Gh0stGeek_: I choose sda3 (ext3)'s mount point to be "/", right?09:38
Bogus8dissection: where did you get a dv50 file?09:38
Geek_godlygeek: statically linked and a single binary IIRC09:38
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r-cdixon: thanks, i'll try that09:38
Geek_Gh0st: yup09:38
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dixonr-c: hope it'll work ;)09:38
wnettemari09:38
godlygeekGeek_: yes, a single binary for certain.  I suppose it has to be statically linked.09:38
dissectionBogus8: I downloaded it from a site to practice chroma keying and compositing.09:38
Gh0stGeek_: I can make a home later, after I have in installed right?09:39
godlygeekkyncani: isn't debian a bit heavy for a rescue?09:39
Gh0st*/home09:39
Geek_godlygeek: yup. considering its gnuutils light in a way09:39
kyncanigodlygeek: i mean it's all like it was statically linked09:39
Bogus8dissection: wondering cause that is a huge file...  Umm... whatever you are going to composite or chromakey in should play it09:39
kyncanigodlygeek: 200 Mb09:39
Geek_Gh0st: probably, though would need a little work. seperate /homes are more backup reasons09:39
Geek_*more for09:39
dissectionBogus8: Well yes, its 1.3GB for a 5 minute clip.09:39
godlygeekkyncani: huh.  :)  lighter than knoppix, then.  :)09:39
Gh0stGeek_: Ok. Well, I'll just go from here for now.09:39
Bogus8dissection: word09:39
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kyncanigodlygeek: 250 Mb used on a 2Gb rescue partition, with firefox and xmms even09:39
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dissectionBogus8: I haven't tried a compositing application in Linux yet. I thought installing a video codec will bring the support to my video player?09:40
godlygeekkyncani: I don't know anything about LVM, but i'm pretty sure that even with LVM, ubuntu's /boot would need to be on a primary partition to load the initrd.09:40
bullgard4Bogus8: Is it technically correct to say that I can use (for example) the #ubuntu channel either via the Freenode network or via the OFTC network?09:40
TehBotolhow to configure ip in ubuntu server from consol09:40
TehBotolhelp me09:40
Bogus8dissection: not sure.. there is what? Live? I think that is a video editor?  I use Vegas09:40
kyncanigodlygeek: nope, /boot can be in an extended partition09:40
Geek_bullgard4: sure, but there would be different people there09:40
r-cdixon: thanks, that did the trick, only my thunderbird icon is still the same size :(09:40
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godlygeekTehBotol: ifconfig interfacename ipaddress09:40
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godlygeekTehBotol: sudo !!09:41
TehBotolohh09:41
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Bogus8bullgard4: no, a channel resides on the network that it resides on.. there may be ANOTHER channel with the same name but rarely are they mirrored09:41
TehBotolyups09:41
TehBotolthanks09:41
luke_some one help me please09:41
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dixonr-c: resize it manually :) right click on the icon -> stretch icon ;)09:41
Bogus8bullgard4: but it CAN happen09:41
bullgard4Geek_: Ah! That is new to me. Thank you for explaining.09:41
Geek_hmmm09:41
godlygeekkyncani: perhaps i need to read up on LVM some more, then.09:41
cablesHow can I get rid of all of xubuntu-desktop's dependencies after putting in ubuntu-desktop?09:41
godlygeekkyncani: I really SHOULD keep /home on a separate partition...09:41
luke_Geek_: CAn you help me?09:41
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Cr0w-hello, i've installed beryl and emerald..and works..but i dont know how to use the themes that appears in emerald theme manager09:41
gnuskoolluke_, spit out the prob09:41
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dissectionBogus8: Whats the link to Vegas and/or Live? I couldn't find them09:42
Geek_luke_ i did as best as i could. i use kubuntu and windows mainly so...09:42
godlygeekcables: you mean, how do you remove all of the xubuntu apps?09:42
luke_i cant choose how many workplaces i want?09:42
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Bogus8dissection: Vegas is windows only09:42
kyncanigodlygeek: i don't, i just don't reformat, and as i understand, you don't either :)09:42
bullgard4Bogus8: Thank you for explaining.09:42
dissectionBogus8: Oh, ;[09:42
Geek_luke_ you can, i linked it, and i don't know why it didn't work09:42
Bogus8dissection: I read about live in a linux mag... let me see if it's handy09:42
r-cdixon: :D thanks again, that did it09:42
cablesgodlygeek, yep... not just the apps, though, the libraries and stuff as well.09:42
Bogus8bullgard4: no prob09:42
dixonr-c: u're welcome ;)09:42
godlygeekkyncani: no, but it WOULD be nice to have /home and /var on separate partitions so that runnin outta space doesn't hose a system.09:42
luke_gnuskool: I cant choose how many workplaces i want in Ubuntu 7.1009:43
godlygeekcables: good luck09:43
cablesgodlygeek, hey, thanks a lot :P09:43
bullgard4Bogus8: Does Canonical prefer Freenode or OFTC?09:43
godlygeekcables: if you had installed xubuntu-desktop with aptitude, an aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop should remove everything that it depends, as well.09:43
Bogus8bullgard4: I have no clue what that is09:43
luke_Geek_: well im trying to get help from other people y it dont work09:43
dissectionBogus8: Okay, cool.09:43
soundraycables: remove the xubuntu-desktop package, then run apt-get autoremove09:43
godlygeekcables: but, i don't know any way to fake that with apt-get.09:43
cablessoundray, i'll try that09:43
kyncanigodlygeek: yeah, it would be nice, but i'm using a laptop and i don't have much disk space. So i can't afford space being wasted in / or /var09:43
godlygeekcables: apt-get doesn't (didn't?) track dependency information.09:43
Geek_bullgard4: wrong question, what you should be asking is, "do i get the answer i need? " ;)09:43
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godlygeekkyncani: yeh, i'm on a laptop with a big hard drive but an even bigger media folder.  :)09:44
kyncanigodlygeek: i should read on lvm some day too :)09:44
cablesgodlygeek, well, it sort of does... it can do autoremove. But I don't know if the installer marks the xubuntu-desktop deps as automatically installed.09:44
Bogus8dissection: it's in the June 07 issue of Linux pro magazine09:44
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chylliwhere does mysql write its error log to ?09:44
godlygeekcables: right.09:44
wnetwww.frienster.com09:44
Gh0stGeek_: Hehe...One final check...This good: http://i15.tinypic.com/4yplfev.png  ...:-/?09:44
gnuskoolluke_,You can change the number of workspaces by right-clicking on the workspace area and choosing "Preferences."09:44
dissectionBogus8: Uhm, I don't get Linux Magazines here. I live in a small village.09:44
wnethai09:44
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dixonHi, can anybody help me with ATI+fglrx+big desktop? Actually everything works fine, except for one thing. Dunno y, but primary display is set to tv and secondary to my lcd. I wanna have LCD as my primary display. Where can I change this option?09:45
Bogus8dissection: probably online (that's why I mention it)09:45
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Bogus8dissection: http://lives.sourceforge.net09:45
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luke_gnuskool: yeah i did that and there is noware to put how many i want09:45
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soundraycables: if you're still tight for space after that, autoclean the package cache (apt-get autoclean), then see what the biggest installed packages are (ls -srS /var/cache/apt/archives) and remove those that you don't need.09:45
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Geek_Gh0st: yup09:45
dissectionBogus8: Thanks09:45
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ph1zzlehey guys, suppose I just accidently did a non recursive delete of /boot/* what is the packahes I need to re install right now?09:45
godlygeekcables: assuming some scripting knowledge, you could probably come up with a recursive list of all dependencies of xubuntu-desktop that are not dependencies of ubuntu-desktop?09:45
Geek_godspeed? ;)09:45
kidbuntuwhat does NAT means in azureus? cause I have a yellow icon09:45
Gh0st:-D Ginskool & Geek_ = New best friends! >.< (Just messing)09:45
godlygeekcabldevil: then apt-get remove on the whole list.  :)09:45
Gh0st*Gnuskool09:46
Bogus8dissection: not sure if it doesn't compositing or chromakey... most linux apps like this are still kind of in infancy09:46
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Bogus8dissection: that is why I still have a windows box as my main computer, I need it for video and audio editing09:46
Geek_kidbuntu: network address translation. you're behind a router and should open a port for azureus09:46
gnuskoolGh0st, lol, no prob09:46
kyncanigodlygeek: i should go now, it was nice talking to you09:46
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godlygeekkyncani: nice talking to you.  :)09:46
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Gh0stI think I need to close GAIM. So, I'll get on tomorrow and tell you all if it works.09:47
Gh0stThanks again!!!!09:47
luke_gnuskool: i tried it and i cant find were to enter how many i want????09:47
kidbuntuGeeK_: how should i get that fixed. or is it fine to run azureus with that yellow icon?09:47
Gh0st^^09:47
dissectionBogus8: Well there's Nuke 4.5 but its $5000 :[09:47
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Bogus8dissection: hmm, that's insanely steep09:47
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Bogus8dissection: does that come with hardware?09:47
Geek_kidbuntu: it will work, but be a little slow. to fix it, check what port azureus is on, then forward the port to your system in your router09:47
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dissectionBogus8: No, software only. Its by digital domain and used on many high end projects.09:48
kidbuntuGeek_ where can i check that?09:48
kidbuntuGeek_ like this one 4834509:48
Geek_yeah09:48
Geek_I DO09:48
Geek_erm09:48
Geek_wrong windows09:48
Geek_windows09:48
Bogus8dissection: hmm, never heard of it... mostly people use Final Cut and Avid on macs09:48
Geek_er /windows/s/window09:49
Bogus8I'm not a fan of either mac or FCP... though Live type is SWEET!09:49
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dissectionBogus8: Yeah I've heard of those two apps.09:49
dissectionBogus8: http://www.d2software.com/09:49
Bogus8dissection: that url looks familiar09:50
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Bogus8dissection: ah, that is a plug in for those apps09:50
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Bogus8dissection: not a standalone app09:50
michal_elo09:50
dissectionBogus8: Ah okay. I was just going through a list of composting pacakges in 3D World Magazine.09:51
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Bogus8dissection: look under the "products" menu it shows "for after effects" "for avid" blah blah blah09:51
dissectionBogus8: There's also Shake by Apple that runs on Mac and Linux for $500. I'll probably get my hands on that.09:51
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Bogus8dissection: I'd be interested in how it compares to "real" apps... but I guess you aren't experienced with them really eh?09:52
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dissectionBogus8: No not experienced.09:53
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Bogus8dissection: what I've seen on linux is rather limited... even if I find video that works well I still will need audio and that wont' happen on the level there is on windows.. the plug in support is just massive09:53
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dissectionBogus8: There was this contest on a site where you get to create a music video and the best one'd be chosen as the official one. Thats when I downloaded the DV50 video files which were all videos shot in front of a greenscreen. I thought it'll be a good idea to download them for and keep it for the future when I start learning compositing packages.09:53
Bogus8dissection: unless someone like cubase or sonar makes a linux version09:54
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Bogus8dissection: yeah, after effects and some plug in like nuke or Ultimatte is the way to go09:55
Bogus8dissection: but that's windows and mac09:55
ShayeWhy do I have to type 'dhclient' everytime i restart my server? _connected to a router_09:56
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Gh0stOk...That's not right...09:58
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Gh0stJust before it installs, it gives me this: The installer needs to commit changes to partition tables, but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount points could not be unmounted:09:58
Gh0st/media/TOSHIBA\040SYSTEM\040VOLUME09:58
Gh0stPlease close any applications using these mount points.09:58
Gh0stWould you like the installer to try to unmount these partitions again?09:58
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Gh0stBut, in gparted, it says the directory isn't found.09:59
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ShayeWhy do I have to type 'dhclient' everytime i restart my server if i want to get an ip address from my router/dhcp? _connected to a router_09:59
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dissectionBtw, I'm about to buy a laptop this week. Which one would be better to use in Linux, one with an ATI card, or nVidia?10:01
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Gh0stGeek_: It says something about not being able to unmount /media/TOSHIBA SYSTEM/040VOLUME because there is no such file or directory.10:01
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Bogus8dissection: nvidia from what i've gathered10:01
Gh0stIt's one of the partitions, and gparted won't let me unmount it.10:01
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dissectionBogus8: Great! The one I'm looking at has a 1GB GeForce.10:02
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|_ockemeah10:03
Bogus8dissection: linux has great nvidia support.... or vice versa10:03
|_ockegot another beer but still no nvidia driver working10:03
Gh0stLocke: Can you help me?10:03
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|_ockeBogus8, not for me :P10:03
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Bogus8|_ocke: sorry mate... USUALLY haha10:04
dissectionI hope I won't run into any issues.10:04
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Mas-GantengYO10:04
|_ockeBogus8, yeah i know its been flawless for me up until i just upgraded to 7.0410:04
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dissectionI need to slap myself for not trying Linux before. I had a Linuxophobia :[10:04
|_ockenow i finally got the packages setup correctly, installed restricted-manager, had it install the drivers10:04
|_ockedidnt work10:04
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Bogus8dissection: i'm sure there is an #nvidia channel... or maybe #x11 could tell you better10:05
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|_ockeso it loaded into text mode, i tried to install the drivers manually, gave a LOT of errors, didnt work10:05
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|_ockechanged xorg.conf to 'nv' and loaded, and thats wehre i am10:05
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Sithehttp://encyclopediadramatica.com/Emo10:05
Sithewups.. ignore that10:05
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Qwerty_How can I reconfigure alsa I stuffed it up in alsa-mixer10:06
Qwerty_err alsamixer10:06
sauvinSithe, that page is... disturbimg.10:06
Sithesauvin: It is lulz10:06
Bogus8|_ocke: i am very new to X, so i am of no use :(10:06
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sauvinWhat does "lulz" mean?10:06
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Sithesauvin: a corruption of L-O-L10:07
Sithesauvin: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Lulz10:07
sauvinPfeh. People, I've observed, have bizarre senses of humour.10:07
|_ockeBogus8, didnt expect you were so no worries10:07
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dissectionFunny, we use "lulz", "lul", "larl", "lawl", or "lewl" in our channel10:07
Bogus8|_ocke: thanks dick :p10:08
|_ockelewl? thats kinda lame10:08
|_ockeBogus8, hehe sorry, just know what to expect10:08
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SitheThe only that I have a bizarre sense of humor is because fglrx and openGL are being gay.10:08
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Bogus8just fucking with ya10:08
|_ockeBogus8, i've been running linux since slackware 3.0, am not an expert, but figured i know more than most people who arent regulars at least10:08
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|_ockeand therefore anybody that is asking questions probably cant help me :P10:09
Bogus8|_ocke: I tried Slack 9... but interested faded10:09
|_ockeyeah slack was really only cool back when it was the most advanced one out10:09
|_ockeback in 3.0-4.0 days10:09
Bogus8|_ocke: I've been using headless systems for a few years now... just no X systems10:09
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|_ockeand wasnt really taht cool then except in relation to windows on the same systems that could run slack seamlessly10:10
Bogus8Sadly I only use windows for surfing and I still can't force myself to convert over10:10
Bogus8I mostly run Opera and Putty10:10
|_ockelinux was cool back 10 years ago if you had a system that all components were supported10:10
sauvinlocke, what is the best mechanism for passing messages or signals between disparate threads or even forked processes running under perl in an OO-friendly manner?10:10
|_ockebut now it is actually cool in all configurations10:10
|_ockesauvin, couldnt tell ya10:11
Bogus8I tried redhat 4 a little also10:11
SitheOmfg I fucking hate Linux!10:11
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Bogus8i think it was 4... it was like 5-6 years ago10:11
|_ockei dont know much perl, but from what i have haerd perl isnt the greatest for OO10:11
SitheIm about to cry right now.10:11
sauvinIt's passable, but it's not as strong as other languages, that's true enough.10:11
|_ockeBogus8, probably, i think 4 was released about 6-7 eyars ago10:11
sauvinsithe, what's up?10:11
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|_ockefor OO, I stick to straight cpp10:12
Sithesauvin: openGL isn't working!10:12
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|_ockeive always been mostly a C enthusiast10:12
Sithesauvin: I have no opengl kernel in xorg.0.log or w/e that file is10:12
Qwerty_How can I set alsa to defaults?10:12
|_ockei also really like ASM, and had a particular interest in 6502 asm10:12
|_ockebut its not really that useful anymoer except for specific routines10:12
|_ockeand for homebrew roms10:13
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sauvinSithe, what card do you have?10:13
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Sithesauvin: ATI RADEON X800   (eek its an ATI, run!)10:13
|_ockenever learned any 68k asm but i never owned a mac so..10:13
sauvinlocke, asm has lost none of its utility, it's simply been eclipsed by the realisation that development time is also a cost factor.10:13
|_ockewell yes10:13
sauvinI have an ATI, and GL is working for me.10:13
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|_ockeasm is still just as quick and effective, but the days of writing your own functions to save 75% CPU time are long gone10:14
Sithesauvin: Any advice to get it working?10:14
sauvinMoment... it was a Ubuntu page that told me how to get the freaking thing working under Fedora Core.10:14
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|_ockeyou might be able to save 10-15% now, but even so unless its a function that is used nearly constantly, you wont see any improvement in performance but maybe like 1fps in a graphical environment, since nearly all such processes are done on the gpu via card specific opcodes10:15
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sauvinAnd now, of course, I can't seem to find it.10:15
araizenis there a dpkg equivalent of rpmfind.net?10:15
sauvinSithe, could you bop over to #kubuntu and ask those folks? They may know something. I'm too tired to make a lot of sense.10:16
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Sithealright will do10:16
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|_ockeparticularly, it is not worth it anymore to spend 2 weeks coding a pure asm routine which can be done in 2 hours with a platform independent language that on 95% of all end-users systems will not see any increase in performance because it is already performing optimally10:17
Flannelaraizen: what does rpmfind.net do?10:17
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araizenlets you search for and download .rpm files10:17
Flannelaraizen: packages.ubuntu.com10:17
r-cdoes anyone have an idea why my wireless would disconnect every now and then, about 2-4 times per hour ?10:17
araizenbut all those i'm going to be able to get via apt-get anyway, no?10:17
ShayeHow can I make it so that my server will get auto IP from the dhcp server/connected to a router? i have to type dhclient everytime...10:17
Flannelaraizen: Right.10:18
dgjonesaraizen, if the package you want isn't in the ubuntu repo's you could also look at www.getdeb.net10:18
araizenhow about all kinds of files from other distros, etc.?10:18
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araizenah okay, thanks10:18
octaBonjouuuuuur =)10:18
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Shayeis there anyone who can help *hello*10:20
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zzazaAnyone running ubuntu on mac ?10:22
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xstasizzaza, what's your problem10:22
ShayeHow can I make it so that my server will get auto IP from the dhcp server/connected to a router? i have to type dhclient everytime...10:23
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neumindi want ask.. if you want make own domain on Bind9 ubuntu its need 2 ip?10:23
Geek_zzaza: There's ubuntu for mac? PPC? link?10:24
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xstasiShaye, man interfaces10:24
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zzazaxstasi, just installed ubuntu on a ibook g3 500mhz 640mb memory but its quite slow10:24
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xstasii can guess10:24
xstasi:)10:24
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neumind if i want make own domain on Bind9 ubuntu its need 2 ip?10:25
xstasii used to run it on ibook g4 256mb10:25
FlannelGeek_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/10:25
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Shayexstasi i can't find the answer there though10:25
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ubuntu_Im having trouble trying to make ubuntu run on another portion so i can have windows and ubuntu, but the help files in the download seem like they are for another version, can anyone help?10:25
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Flannel!dualboot | ubuntu_10:26
ubotuubuntu_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty10:26
ubuntu_yes how to dual boot10:26
thunktI've just created a small website I plan to use as my homepage, I want to have a bunch of rss feeds on the one page, can anyone tell me what I'd use for this?10:26
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xstasiShaye, iface eth0 inet dhcp10:27
Walls7Im on the installation right now for ubuntu, and its on the "prepare partions" step, can someone please tell me what to do so i can set up a dual boot?10:28
zzazaxstasi,  i think am going to run xfce ,do u have any doc/info about ur installation on ibook g410:28
FlannelWalls7: do you have freespace on your drives?10:28
bullgard4MM_CHARSET=ISO-8859-15. Ist this value correct? Doesn't it have to be UTF-8?10:28
Shayexstasi that's what i type or do i need to edit a file or something? i am very new to linux sorry10:28
howlingmadhowieyou say partions, i say portions :)10:29
xstasiShaye, /etc/network/interfaces10:29
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xstasitry to get some help by someone10:29
xstasii have to go afk10:29
xstasittyl :)10:29
Walls7Flannel: yea i do10:29
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FlannelWalls7: Then create a partition in that free space10:29
Flannelzzaza: that PPC or intel?10:29
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howlingmadhowiebullgard4: iso-8859-15 are western european with euro-sign10:29
Walls7how much free space is needed?10:30
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thunktWalls7: I would recommend 2 partitions, 256mb for a swap space, and whatever you want for your actual ubuntu install10:30
FlannelWalls7: oh, you mean freespace in your windows partition.  i meant unallocated freespace on your drive.  You'll need ... what, like 2GB minimum?  You'll need to shrink your current partition10:30
neumind if i want make own domain on Bind9 ubuntu its need 2 ip?10:30
Geek_bullgard4: its fine.10:30
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zzazaFlannel, its ppc just destroyed the mac os x and installed ubuntu. btw i have never used a mac before10:31
bullgard4howlingmadhowie: I know already what you told me. But this does not answermy question if this value is correct for an international communication.10:31
Walls7Flannel: ok, so how would i do that10:31
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Flannelzzaza: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/7.04/release/  That's Xubuntu for PPC, just download, burn, and boot and follow the install instructions10:31
howlingmadhowieWalls7: for an ubuntu installation i'd always want at least 10 GB (but i do tend to install a lot of software)10:31
Juhazbullgard4, there is no charset that is "correct" for all purposes, it entirely depends on people you're communicating to.10:31
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Deagsgreetings everyone10:32
Walls7SO how would i shrink my current partion?10:32
FlannelWalls7: Uh, it's best to boot to windows and defrag first, before resizing.  Also, if you have any windows based partition stuff (partition magic or whatnot) you'd be better off shrinking with that.10:32
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bullgard4Juhaz: There is no internatinally agreed MIME character set?10:32
howlingmadhowiebullgard4: what sort of international communication? 8859-15 supports the german/french/spanish/skandinavian accents and special letters. it doesn't support cjk etc.10:32
jaroHI guys, got trouble: How can i change from wireless to wired.. without rebooting ?10:32
zzazaFlannel, thanks being new to mac world even the keyboard keys are all new to me10:32
Deagsi have a ati radeon 9800 and wanting to get drivers for it am i out of luck?10:32
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howlingmadhowiebullgard4: if you want to be sure, use utf-810:33
Geek_jaro: ifdown the wired connection, ifup the other one10:33
Geek_*wireless10:33
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andyp__hi10:34
dromerdoes anyone care to help my with my dhc-problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50686810:34
Walls7Flannel: i just have windows defragmenter, so after i defragment it, how would i shrink it?10:34
dromerdhcp*10:34
andyp__whats the apt-get command to bittorrent10:34
jherreraandyp__ none10:34
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Deagswalls7 u should get through the defrag first seems to awlays encounter problems if udont defrag alot10:34
FlannelWalls7: you'll reboot back into the liveCD, and use something like gparted (or the partitioner in the installer) to shrink the windows partition, and then create a new linux partition10:34
howlingmadhowiebullgard4: what software will you be using? java, for example, always stores strings in utf-16 (16-bit characters)10:34
andyp__jheera:rr10:35
jherreraandyp__ apt-get (8)          - APT package handling utility - - command-line interface10:35
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DarkEDhi all, i need some help10:35
Deags i have a ati radeon 9800 and wanting to get drivers for it am i out of luck?10:35
Juhazbullgard4, there are quite a few of them... which is the problem. but if it's for email, utf-8 should be fine, most clients tend to understand messages in any encoding these days, as long as the headers are correct10:35
DarkEDi'm running kubuntu 7.04 and i want to just go back to gnome10:35
andyp__jherrera: ktronnent10:35
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DarkEDis there any way to reinstall my system without actually needing the CD?10:35
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FlannelDarkED: install ubuntu-desktop10:36
jherreraandyp__ ktorrent ?10:36
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Walls7Flannel: ok, so how much would i need to shrink it, 10GB?10:36
DarkEDFlannel: yeah but i mean i want to get rid of EVERYTHING... start from scratch10:36
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jaroGeek_:  you mean by using the console ?10:36
andyp__yes its a torrent sofware for kde10:36
Geek_darkED: wubi, then transfer it over?10:36
FlannelDarkED: then later you can remove kubuntu, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome10:36
Geek_jaro: yes10:36
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Geek_i think you need to psudo those comands too10:37
Deagswalls7 if u can spare 20gig ull be happier sparing 2010:37
FlannelWalls7: 10GB would be plenty10:37
Deagsleast thats what i have found10:37
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sauvinDepends on what kinds of junk you plan on downloading.10:37
Deagsindeed10:37
jaroGeek_:  ifdown -a | ifup -a ?10:37
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Deagsbut for a newer level people tends to be better to go with 20 haha10:38
Geek_jaro: i *think* you need to mention which interfaces specifically10:38
Deags i have a ati radeon 9800 and wanting to get drivers for it am i out of luck?10:38
Geek_did it once, but i'm not on my ubuntu susyem tigjt now10:38
linux_hi ive just updated firefox on my ubuntu 7, im having problems with loading youtube it crashes everytime anyone else got this problem ???????????10:38
linux_Firefox/2.0.0.610:39
SitheHOW DUZ I UNINSTAHL TEH ATEE EYE DRIVUR?10:39
sauvinlinux, using what flash plugin?10:39
GothCloud:O10:39
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linux_adobe10:39
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GothCloudSithe: LOL10:39
sauvin...?10:39
dfewrkucink10:39
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SitheGothCloud: =)10:39
thunktmaybe your web browser is allergic to crap10:39
linux_lol10:39
Deagslol do u know?10:39
linux_cud be lol10:39
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Geek_*remover10:39
Sithehaha10:40
sauvinheh. I'm using 2.0.0.3 :(10:40
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Deagssithe do u know about the driver?10:40
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jaroGeek_:  but shouldnt it be the same interface ? oh no it shouldnt...10:40
Deagsim too retarded to do it  :(10:40
SitheDeags: Nice name. And what do you mean?10:40
linux_well i wud upgrade there seems to be somthing wrong with it, my mate is having the same problem10:40
DarkEDFlannel: thanks! that page will do it10:40
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DarkEDone more question10:40
Deagsthe aye tee eye driver10:40
Deagslol10:40
Geek_jaro... no it shoukdn't10:40
linux_wudnt*10:40
DarkEDin my gnome i dont have the standard panels of a stock install10:40
Walls7i have 107GB unused and 42GB is used for windows. shrinking the partion 10GB wouldnt do much right?10:40
Geek_couldn't10:40
DarkEDfor instance, my network manager is missing from the panel10:40
DarkEDand a few others10:41
DarkEDhow can i get all this stuff back to 7.04 defaults?10:41
lourdrajhi anyone help me wrt ubuntu10:41
Geek_Walls7: no10:41
sauvinlourdraj, with what?10:41
SitheDeags: Yes what about the "ayetee eye drivuhr" use korrect inglish plz10:41
neumindon freebsd can i make http, ftp, psybnc server and other like on ubuntu?10:41
lourdraji need to upgrade from python2.4.3 to python2.4.4 on ubuntu10:41
kahrytanDarkED: Right Click on Applications and Edit Menus10:41
FlannelWalls7: right.10:42
flash42neumind: probably you can10:42
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Walls7Flannel: thanks for the help!10:42
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twosouls82neumind: you can10:42
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neumindflash42 this is dificult then ubuntu?10:42
Deagssithe lmao i was mocking u btw  i have a ati radeon 9800 and i just wanna get it workin nicely so i can put beryl on it honestly...10:42
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KaKaRoTo-KShi, I can't boot into my ubuntu in graphical mode10:42
flash42neumind: no it is not10:42
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DarkEDkahrytan: no, not the menu, the actual panel... like, on a stock ubuntu 7.04 install i can look at the top right of the panel and there's a network monitor icon10:42
flash42at least in my opinion10:42
KaKaRoTo-KSthe pc was working fine, it shut down because of the battery, and now, when I boot, I only get into console mode10:42
twosouls82neumind: FreeBSD takes more knowledge than Linux if you ask me10:42
tokjhello people o/10:43
twosouls82neumind: server setup is mostly the same10:43
Sithedeags: Beryl doesn't work on most ATI Cards.. Its either you dont have full screen resoulution and have beryl, or dont have beryl and have fullscreen resolution10:43
flash42FreeBSD is perfect for running daemons though10:43
twosouls82amen10:43
kahrytanDarkED: Is the Notification applet on the panel?10:43
Deagshmm10:43
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DarkEDkahrytan: yes10:43
sauvinI can't find python 2.4.4 in the repos :\10:43
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Deagsi was told that it works with the 9600 and 980010:43
KaKaRoTo-KSI get an output like this one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/10314810:44
Deagsso i thought i would see what was up10:44
twosouls82sauvin: why do you think you need it?10:44
sauvinlourdraj, why do you need to install a new version of python?10:44
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lourdrajbcos when i tried to install zope 2.9.7, the system giving warning message to upgrade python to 2.4.410:44
sauvinGAHR.10:45
SitheDeags: go into terminal and type: beryl --replace10:45
twosouls82lourdraj: try to make it use python2.5, I guess this will work just fine10:45
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Sithedeags: beryl --replace10:45
kahrytanDarkED: Let me know if you get it back10:45
Sithedeags: Do your borders go away?10:45
linux_ive re-installed adobe flash but still firefox just crashes anyone get any ideas ? (firefox 2.0.0.6)10:45
DarkEDkahrytan: will do10:45
Deagsone sec10:45
sauvinlourdraj, python has gotten to be a pretty important language for linux GUI stuff, among other things. The trouble with it is that backwards compatibility in python sometimes takes a beating. Upgrading is not without risk.10:45
dgjones!bot > dgjones10:46
ShayeHow can I get a full list of all the running process and the IDS? "ps" ?10:46
DarkEDkahrytan: i'm also gonna try deleting all my config directories under /home, that may do it10:46
kahrytanDarkED: I removed notification area and lost it too10:46
Deagswait10:46
Deagsi dont have beryl eveninstalled10:46
dissectionShaye; ps aux10:46
Deagsthis isnt gonna work10:46
Deagsi thought i needed the driver first10:46
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lourdrajhow to go about sauvin?10:46
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araizendoes anyone know what the easiest way to get elatex and/or pdfelatex in ubuntu is?10:46
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sauvinI dont know. I'm running a (nearly) stock version of ubuntu feisty, and running python on IT reports its version as 2.5mumble.10:47
SitheDeags: Install it10:47
Sithedeags: do you need help installing it?10:47
Deagsk im assuming sudo apt-get install beryl-core10:47
Flannelaraizen: Do you really need those particular latex packages?10:47
Shayedissection thanks, btw, why when i am "root", and i try to type 'exit' it says still have stopped jobs?10:47
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SitheDeags: or you can go into symnaptic and do it10:47
Sithedeags: which is what I recommend.10:48
dissectionShaye: Sorry, I don't know. I'm still a newbie :)10:48
Deagskk10:48
Shayedissection hehe :D me too10:48
Deagswell lemme enable universe and crap lol just got this ubuntu installed10:48
dissectionShaye: Around 3 weeks old ;] 10:48
FlannelShaye: type 'jobs' see what's still around.10:49
araizenFlannel: not if you have some other suggestion as to how i might be able to typeset bidi and mixed hebrew/latin text10:49
Flannelaraizen: does tetex not do that?10:49
sauvinlourdraj, do this at an xterm or other terminal prompt: python -V10:49
DarkEDoh it's so nice to have all that kde crap gone10:49
araizenit gives me problems with mixed text, and the people in #latex think that bidi isn't well supported in tex10:49
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Sithedeags: alright10:50
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lourdrajits giving Python 2.4.310:50
SitheHOW DUZ I UNINSTAHL TEH ATEE EYE DRIVUR?10:50
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Amon-sanhi. midnight commander has the option to select files and or directories and assign ownership via chown (very nice menu) but how do i do the same in bash?10:51
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sean071307chmod in bash10:51
sean071307amon^^10:51
sauvinlourdraj, what version of linux are you running?10:51
SitheWho here likes Anon?10:51
Bogus8Hmm, I lost my cube... how did that happen?10:51
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kahrytanDarkED: I think I found the app you are looking for10:51
Deagssithe im used to xuubuntu wanna tell me how to get universe :(10:51
Amon-sani mean not execution bits but who actually owns the file10:51
sean071307Bogus, in beryl?10:51
Amon-sani can set users and groups10:52
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ubuntu__hello... i was using ubuntu, and my pc halted... i tryed to reboot but it appears an error: the filesystem can be only accessed on read-only and acuses bad blocks... how i fix it? (i`m using live cd)10:52
DarkEDkahrytan: really? do tell, please :)10:52
SitheDeags: Im not familiar with universe. I dont think you need it.10:52
vladuz976how do I check the memory installed?10:52
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Bogus8sean071307: ubuntu's desktop effects... not sure what's the real difference there10:52
kahrytanDarkED: gnome-netstatus?10:52
lourdrajsauvin: i have ubuntu dapper and the python is python2.4.310:52
Amon-sansean071307: so i guess it's a different command10:52
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PaulEUhello!10:52
kahrytanDarkED: oh wait. not the one10:52
DarkEDkahrytan: odd, i dont have that package10:52
|_ockemeh, no help so bed10:53
|_ockenight10:53
SitheDeags: Go to [System]  | [Administration]  | [Synaptic Package Manager] 10:53
sean071307bogus, it's the compiz settings10:53
PaulEUhow can I check that in which package is /dir/file from ?10:53
DarkEDhow do i delete ALL gnome settings to start with a clean slate/10:53
DarkED?10:53
sauvinyes, I got that. I'm running feisty; its default python version apparently is 2.5mumble. I'm seeing (now) references to python 2.4.4-2. Does dapper have the Synaptics package manager?10:53
kahrytanDarkED: lol You should.10:53
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Deagso10:53
Deagsi thought it was part of universe10:53
Deagsmy bad10:53
Deagsk its installing10:53
sean071307and amon, are you trying to do the chmod as rood10:53
sean071307root*10:53
Flannelaraizen: you could get the debian source package and compile it, then use dpkg, or compile (or whatever its shipped as) to /usr/local/10:53
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Amon-sanyes10:54
araizenwhat's the difference between mark for removal and mark for complete removal in synaptic?10:54
jherrera<DarkED> probably doing this will be sufficient: rm -r ~/.gnome10:54
araizenFlannel: okay, thanks, i was afraid of that10:54
Bogus8sean071307: it was there one minute and now it's gone... only thing I've been doing is I turned it effects off and on because an app went grayscale but wasn't locked and playing with "super key" and various keys to see what they did10:54
sean071307complete romoval gets rid of the config files araizen10:54
PaulEUis there exists tools for checking database of packages ??10:54
Flannelaraizen: complete removal removes config files as well, it's the --purge flag in apt-get10:54
kahrytanDarkED: I cant find the original network10:54
sean071307bogus, did u try restarting Xserver?10:54
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kahrytanDarkED: You could look through themes. They often change that icon used for it.10:55
araizenmeaning i wouldn't even see it as an option anymore if i do complete removal?10:55
PaulEUbecause I don't know where is this folder /etc/apache/ from10:55
Flannelaraizen: You could see if someone out there has packaged it for ubuntu.  Which could very well be the case.  getdeb is down at the moment, or I'd also tell you to check there10:55
Bogus8sean071307: nope, not yet... wasn't sure if I was missing something else more obvious10:55
DarkEDhmm, seems like it's time to logout and relogin10:55
DarkEDwish me luck10:55
FlannelPaulEU: `dpkg -S /etc/apache`10:55
araizenFlannel: okay, i'll check there at some point10:55
SitheDeags: Done?10:55
araizenthanks10:55
sean071307i'd try just restarting Xserver10:55
sean071307to make it easier10:55
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Deagsnah ill yell at u ina min :P10:55
triplcHi all10:55
jherrera<PaulEU> you can check the files installed in synaptic, right click to a package -> properties -> files installed10:55
amorphous_I'm struggling with user accounts losing their internet connection.It happens intermitently and fairly frequently, but the admin account has no problems. can anyone offer any reason there may be for this? I'm a bit stumped.10:56
SitheHOW DUZ I UNINSTAHL TEH AYTEE EYE DRIVUR?10:56
PaulEUFlannel: thx, how can I checks, dependences ?10:56
triplcWhat program to use to capture video from camcorder-via-s-video port?10:56
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sean071307Sith lmao10:56
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sean071307triplc i use camorama10:56
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FlannelPaulEU: apt-cache show [package] 10:57
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Deagssithe ok it looks like beryl is installed10:57
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triplcsean071307, thanks10:57
Sithedeags: alright now type in terminal:10:57
FlannelPaulEU: of course, all of these things are available other places.  Synaptic, and also packages.ubuntu.com, which might be friendlier to chase down multiple packages and stuff10:57
Sithedeags: beryl --replace10:57
KOJVJust launched Ubuntu from the live CD. Does that limit me from doing stuff like enabling a proper graphics adapter driver or such_10:57
sean071307np triplc10:57
Pierre|banyone know if its possible to play music from a ntfs disc?10:57
sauvinPierre|b, I do it all the time.10:58
dissectionPierre|b: Yes, I'm doing it.10:58
KOJVHelp! Has anyone seen my KEYB.COM__10:58
sean071307KOJV, no10:58
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PaulEUFlannel: big thx for help :)10:58
sean071307i do it too Pierreb10:58
KOJVOkay sean, how do I go about to get a proper driver for my GF FX5200_10:58
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Pierre|bhow? :)10:58
gnuskoolwhat would be the easiest way to get a bios update onto a linux only machine, all flash tools etc i can find are for win3210:58
alzamonHei, I've got a problem with gcc in xubuntu. gcc can't find the standard library headers. I write "gcc test.c" and get back "test.c:1:18: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory". Am I missing some packages or am I just doing it wrong?10:58
|_ockegnuskool, dosbox or boot disk10:58
sean071307KOJV, have you tried envy yet? makes it ubereasy10:58
KOJVgnuskool, get a flash program for a DOS floppy diskette.10:58
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KOJVsean, no, where do I find envy?10:59
Bogus8sean071307: still no go :(10:59
Bogus8no cube10:59
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Bogus8it does have the wobble10:59
LiberCogitoKOJV: Google NVidia ENvy10:59
sean071307bogus, have u opened the settings?10:59
KOJVThanks Liber.10:59
dgjones!envy | sean071307, KOJV10:59
ubotusean071307, KOJV: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!10:59
Bogus8sean071307: where?10:59
sean071307to check to make sure it's enabled10:59
LiberCogitoKOJV: its the second entry10:59
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SitheDeag: did that?10:59
bullgard410:59
Sithedeags: did that*10:59
Bogus8sean071307: in the desktop effects?  yes10:59
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gnuskooll_ocke, i got hiren boot disk, ill fiddle with it a bit more10:59
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SitheGUYS YOU KNOW THERE IS A BERYL CHANNEL! #beryl11:00
LiberCogitoKOJV: that's an old message.  i've used envy on 5 machines to no ill effect.11:00
sean071307Sithe, this isn't a beryl issue, it's compiz11:00
sean071307totally different =p11:00
SitheOh alright11:00
LiberCogitoTechnically Beryl is a fork of Compiz.11:00
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sean071307desktop effects, as per Ubuntu are from compiz, not beryl11:00
KOJVLiberCogito, do I download the rdf?11:00
gnuskool_ocke, i got hiren boot disk, ill fiddle with it a bit more11:00
sean071307bethany, don't get tech on me11:00
LiberCogitoAnd it no longer exists.11:00
larsemilanyone knows whats the problem with getdeb.net?11:00
sean071307i'll smack you11:00
sean071307lol11:01
Sithehttp://encyclopediadramatica.com/Alex_Wuori11:01
sean071307ilu sis11:01
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LiberCogitoKOJV: download the tarball.11:01
LiberCogitosean071307: *&^% you.11:01
sean071307<311:01
PaulEUwhat's default desktop-effect after instalation ubuntu-7.04 ?11:01
PaulEUberyl or compiz ?11:01
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LiberCogitoPaulEU: Compiz11:01
sean071307compiz PaulEU11:01
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PaulEUok, thx11:01
sean071307it still hasn't been updated11:01
Bogus8looks up ;)11:01
KOJVLiberCogito, I can't find a download page for the tarball.11:01
sean071307lol11:02
PaulEUsean071307: compiz works super on my desktop11:02
sean071307ilu beth11:02
ShayeKOJV from quakenet? :D11:02
triplcsean071307, just apt-get install camorama... but when I run it, it say: cannot connect to /dev/video0. What should I do? I am using NEC E400, which has a S-Video port connecting to a JVC camcorder right now.11:02
SitheWho here thinks scene girls are hot?11:02
PaulEUwha11:02
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sean071307yay lan parties!!!11:02
sean071307Sithe, better not mean my sis11:02
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LiberCogitoKOJV: ill get you a link.  .11:02
KOJVShaye, I11:02
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PaulEUwhat's differences between compiz or compiz-fusion ?11:02
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KOJVShaye, I'm on many networks, yes.11:02
LiberCogitosean071307: don't think it counts if we're on different lans11:02
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sean071307Paul, google is your friend11:02
Sithesean071308: if your sister is scene then I do mean her.11:02
sean071307not just irc ;)11:02
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KOJVThank you LiberCogito.11:02
sean071307lmao, she's not scen11:02
sean071307e11:02
sean071307and she's old11:02
sean071307lmao11:02
Sithegrr11:02
PaulEUsean071307: ok, thx ;)11:03
Sithelawl11:03
Bogus8sean071307: any other ideas?11:03
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sauvinToo old for a 50 year old man? :)11:03
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KOJVCan't I just download a proper driver from Nvidia?11:03
sean071307Bogus: try a restart11:03
Sithesauvin: I am 15 lulz.11:03
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LiberCogitosean071307: yeah.  22.  I'm ancient.11:03
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Sithesauvin: not 5011:03
triplcHi all11:03
Bogus8sean071307: foolishness, this is linux ;)11:03
lourdrajsauvin: i have ubuntu dapper and the python is python2.4.311:03
sean071307lulz? or lutz? lol11:03
Sithelulz11:03
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Deagswell crap11:03
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SitheWelcome back Deags11:03
sean071307i know, but it's all i got =[11:03
SitheWhats wrong?11:03
Deagswhite screen of death11:03
lourdrajsauvin: i need minimum of 2.4.4 to install zope11:03
LiberCogitoKOJV: http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=6411:04
SitheMmhhmm11:04
andyp_how come bittrrent download rates are slower on unduntu then on windows seems strange11:04
sauvinlourdraj, do your package manager repos have 2.4.4 or 2.5?11:04
Deagsthat means its not gonna work?11:04
sean071307andyp, have you checked your configs11:04
SitheYup.11:04
Deagswell wtf11:04
sean071307make sure it's hogging the same badnwidth11:04
Deagshow good of vid card do u need for it?11:04
LiberCogitosauvin: I'm 22!11:04
LiberCogitosean071307: sudo go get me a mt.dew11:04
SitheDeags: tbh I started using linux like yesterday.. Go into #beryl im not an expert11:04
sean071307sudo fuck you beth11:04
SitheLOL!11:04
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sean071307Sith, beryl is amazing <311:05
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lourdrajsauvin: ubuntu dapper says python2.4.3 is the latest version11:05
sean071307and i love XFCE btw11:05
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Deagsleast ur honest11:05
KOJVThank you LiberCogito.11:05
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sauvinI thought this was supposed to be a family-friendly channel.11:05
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Deagstyvm for ur help11:05
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sean071307oops11:05
sean071307sry11:05
Sithesean071307: FUCK YOU I CANT USE BERYL BECAUSE ATI SUCKS BIG DICK11:05
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Badzoberyl works with 256 ddr ram:)11:05
sauvinlourdraj, is it an option to install feisty?11:05
sean071307i slipped11:05
triplcHi all, What is the device name of the S-Video port? (is that /dev/video0 ??)11:05
Badzoand i have ati, beryl works perfect11:05
WX9JHow can I play a music cd when I am not running the GUI ??11:05
lourdrajno: its a server11:05
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sean071307sauvin, yes11:05
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sean071307you can11:05
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larsemili dont get xgl running on ati big desktopi11:05
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Flannel!language | Sithe11:05
ubotuSithe: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:05
LiberCogitoSithe: Yep.  And you bought ATI.  So who really sucks?11:05
JavidThere is a god damned orange fish swimming about on my screen, how do I kill it?11:06
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lourdrajsauvin: its a server, to mant applications running11:06
perpetualHow do I make gnome-screensaver span two monitors, instead of displaying two separate screensavers on each monitor? I use nvidia drivers with twinview.11:06
SitheLiberCogito: I was using windows at the time.11:06
sauvin!@#$@%#11:06
sean071307Site, i use ati11:06
sean071307so don't blame ati11:06
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Sithesean. I have an X800.11:06
sean071307a comp is only as smart as the commands it's givin ;)11:06
LiberCogitoSithe: thats no excuse.11:06
sean071307hmm mine's x140011:06
sauvinlourdraj, you CAN upgrade to python 2.4.4 or 2.5 or whatever is the latest out there BUT you are accepting an system-wide risk in doing so.11:06
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perpetualJavid, try xkill11:06
KOJVInstalling Envy gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: module asisstance11:06
SitheI will pay someone here $20 if they can get mine to work. No joke tell me your paypal right now11:06
KOJVassistant11:06
sean071307and sithe, stop bribing ppl11:07
LiberCogitoKOJV: did you run all updates first?11:07
lourdrajsauvin, help me how to proceed?11:07
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KOJVLiberCogito, no, where do I go about to do that?11:07
Sithesean: i've tried everything, its the driver/card.. not me11:07
sean071307hmmmm... what are ur specs?11:07
sauvinlourdraj, BEAR IN MIND I DO NOT ACTUALLY RECOMMEND THIS, bop on over to python.org11:07
Badzowhy picasa from google cant see my directory?11:07
LiberCogitoKOJV: Erm, click on the orange thing that says updates available.11:07
sean071307and, how fresh of an install are you using?11:07
Badzooh, it can see it but it cant add it to my library11:08
SitheIntel P4 3.0GHZ, 3gb of ram, Ubuntu Fiest, installed yesterday, and an ATI Radeon X800 GTO11:08
LiberCogitoKOJV: Or just type sudo apt get-update11:08
perpetualSithe, ati card with fglrx?11:08
Sitheperpetual: yes11:08
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lourdrajsauvin, let me try this11:08
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perpetualSithe, did you try ati's own installer yet?11:08
SitheAnd for some damn reason the fglrx kernel is not in the xorg.0.log11:08
Sitheperpetual: I was told not too11:08
sean071307sithe, language plz11:09
Sithesean: watch your language.11:09
SitheYou said the eff word a few times too11:09
sean071307sithe, what if you run fglrxinfo on JUST a normal session, not xgl11:09
sean071307just once ;)11:09
KOJVLiberCogito, no update icon here.11:09
sean071307sorry, learn to grep better11:09
sean071307lol11:09
Sithesean11:09
Sithehold on11:09
sauvinI, personally, do not give a [BEEP]  if you want to use that [HONK] ing kind of language, but it DOES sometimes [TWEET]  people right to [BAH-BOOM]  off.11:09
perpetualSithe, I found the restricted modules package worse than useless.11:10
LiberCogitoKOJV: Erm, you are using 7.04, correct?11:10
SitheXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".11:10
Sithedisplay: :0.0  screen: 011:10
SitheOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org11:10
SitheOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect11:10
SitheOpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)11:10
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KOJVLiberCogito, when I type the sudo command in the terminal it says command not found.11:10
SitheThats what I get when I type fgltxinfo11:10
KOJVLiberCogito, yes.11:10
LiberCogito!paste | Sithe11:10
ubotuSithe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:10
Sithefglrxinfo*11:10
perpetualSithe, and absolutely over-engineered11:10
sean071307chech your /etc/X11xorg.conf11:10
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sean071307to make sure that you have the composite extension disabled11:10
sean071307check**11:10
LiberCogitoKOJV: That makes no sense.11:10
Sitheset it to 0?11:10
eternalswdanyone know how to gnome default applications to xdg-open database?11:10
KOJVLiberCogito, I believe I must install the system on a hard drive to make it work, no?11:10
sean071307yepperz11:11
LiberCogito....11:11
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LiberCogitoKOJV: Erm, things like "I'm running the LiveCD and it isn't installed' are things you want to tell people when asking for help.  :-p11:11
KOJVSo, will Ubuntu, when installed and updated, be able to read my NTFS hard drive?11:11
SitheSean: where is this composite magig?11:11
LiberCogitoKOJV: yes11:11
sean071307in the section extensions11:11
KOJVLiberCogito, I begun with asking if me running it Live would be a problem when updating the graphics drivers, and people said no.11:12
Sitheya its at 011:12
LiberCogitosean071307: I just had a flashback to work.11:12
sean071307did you do depmod -a and modprobe fglrx11:12
sean071307lmao11:12
JavidIs there a function to access a hard drive from a livecd?11:12
sean071307i love you sis11:12
sean071307just btw11:12
sauvinKOJV, ubuntu feisty mounted my NTFS partitions without my doing a damn thing.11:12
KOJVI'll prepare a hard drive for installing Ubuntu. See ya later.11:12
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perpetualeternalswd, usually right click on icon and choose the application you want for it. Nautilus will then use the same app for files with the same extension. I think.11:12
sean071307btw, Site, do it as root, so sudo those cmnds11:12
KOJVsauvin: okay, sounds good.11:12
SitheI did that sean.11:12
Sithealready11:12
sean071307did you run aticonfig --initial and aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv?11:13
eternalswdperpetual, this doesn't seem to apply it to xdg-open, only to gnome-open11:13
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kahrytandarke11:13
SitheFound fglrx primary device section11:13
SitheNothing to do, terminating.11:13
SitheI got that11:13
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perpetualeternalswd, oh. What are those?11:14
Sitheand11:14
SitheWarning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.11:14
SitheWarning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.11:14
SitheUsing /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:14
SitheSaved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-011:14
Sitheaticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.11:14
sean071307you ran as sudo, yes?11:14
SitheNo.11:14
Sithelawl11:14
sean071307try that ;)11:14
jherrerahow can I handle multiple internet domains in my PC?11:14
sean071307try howtoforge jerrera, they have a good guide11:15
sean071307jherrera**11:15
sauvin.oO(are "lol" and its variants becoming quasi-legitimate words in English now?)11:15
sean071307yes11:15
SitheI sudo'd it and got11:15
SitheWarning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.11:15
SitheWarning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.11:15
SitheUsing /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:15
SitheSaved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-011:15
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JavidI hope to god not, I want to kill people that type that.11:15
sean071307ok, so now restart x w. ctrl+alt+bksp11:15
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sean071307should work11:15
sauvinSithe, all that means is you're going to have to restart X to see any effect.11:15
eternalswdperpetual, xdg-open is an application that allows running default applications for a given mimetype, just like gnome-open, but it is more universal11:15
sean071307yes, sauvin, but if it had been ran properly first, the output would be diff'11:15
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SitheAlright restarted X11:16
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sean071307and?11:16
JavidIs there a function to access a hard drive from a livecd?11:16
Sithewant me to fglrxinfo?11:16
LiberCogitosauvin: I hope not.11:16
sean071307javid, try gparted?11:16
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sean071307to view hd's11:16
sean071307sithe, plz and thank you11:17
sauvinLiberCogito, um, you hope not what...?11:17
saylarhey guys11:17
sean071307about the  "lol"11:17
JavidDandy.11:17
sean071307hey saylar11:17
JavidThanks.11:17
Sithedisplay: :0.0  screen: 011:17
SitheOpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.11:17
SitheOpenGL renderer string: RADEON X800 GTO11:17
SitheOpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)11:17
Sithe=)11:17
LiberCogitosauvin: That the english language isn't that far gone.11:17
sean071307and time javid11:17
sauvinAh.11:17
sean071307sithe, your good11:17
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DarkEDkahrytan, i got it back11:17
sean071307now try ;)11:17
SitheSo.. OpenGL is working?11:17
sean071307yes11:17
sean071307it won't in xgl though11:17
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sean071307well, it will, but won't show up11:17
Sithewhats xgl?11:17
kahrytanDarkED: Hey.11:17
sauvinOh, LiberCogito, I expect that English twenty years from now will be gibberish to us.11:17
kahrytanDarkED: Look for NetworkManager Applet11:18
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DarkEDkahrytan, i just deleted all .config files in my /home directory... everything11:18
DarkEDkahrytan, no this is the one in the notification tray11:18
DarkEDit's back now11:18
sean071307sithe, xgl is an x server ;)11:18
sean071307for 3d effects11:18
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kahrytanDarkED: thats the one11:18
kahrytanDarkED: It's called NetworkManager Applet11:18
Sithe.....so does this mean that WoW still wont run?11:18
sauvinWhat's WoW?11:18
SitheWorld of Warcraft11:18
sean071307lol, wow11:18
sean071307rofl11:18
sean071307LMAO11:18
sean071307beth, you take plz11:19
Sitheor CSS.11:19
sean071307CSS?11:19
sean071307css like the webdev lang?11:19
SitheCounter-Strike: Source11:19
sauvinSithe: do a "glxinfo | grep direct" without the quotes, please.11:19
LiberCogitoSithe: Are you using crossover, wine, or cedega?11:19
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SitheLiberCogito: Cedega11:19
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Sithesauvin: direct rendering: Yes11:20
sean071307omg =[11:20
sean071307boo @ win gamerz11:20
sean071307linux has better games11:20
sean071307but liber would be the girl to ask about wow and css i suppose11:20
sauvinthen you have hardware acceleration.11:20
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amorphous_any suggest why some user accounts on a machine may lose internet whilst others are ok?11:20
kahrytan!info network-manager-gnome | DarkED11:20
ubotudarked: network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.4-6ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 253 kB, installed size 1696 kB11:20
LiberCogitoSithe: Then you hopefully are actually paying them instead of pirating it, and since thats an offically supported game, you should go ask them. :)11:20
SitheLiberCogito: I payed my $15, yes.11:20
DaveDdoes anyone here do stuff with midi?11:20
sean071307sauvin, i could have told you that from the driver, the fglrxinfo11:20
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LiberCogitoSithe: Then you have support from them.  Go use it.11:20
kahrytanDarkED: Reinstall network-manager-gnome11:21
sean071307lol11:21
sean071307agreed liber11:21
sean071307ilu11:21
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SitheLiberCogito: No-one in their IRC tallks... ever.11:21
DarkEDkahrytan, it's cool11:21
Sitheor forum for that matter11:21
DarkEDi got it already dude11:21
sean071307they have a tech number ;)11:21
DaveDI'm having a bizarre problem with a midi interface working under edgy, but not feisty11:21
DarkEDi said it came back :)11:21
LiberCogitoSithe: They don't offer more offical support?11:21
kahrytanDarkED: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/11:21
sauvinsean071307, welcome to linux. TIMTOWTDI. (There's More Than One Way To Do It)11:21
SitheLiberCogito: guess not11:21
SitheLiberCogito: ill check their website for a support hotline11:21
sean071307i know there is, sauvin, but i told him opengl is working, which means hardware accel is too =] 11:22
JavidI remember there being some command to rip a CD to an ISO directly, was that right?11:22
sean071307but thanks for the second way of doing it =] 11:22
kahrytanDarkED: Did you install it?11:22
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sean071307javid, dd works for that, as one way11:22
perpetualeternalswd, interesting... I always found that basing which app to use on the extension alone too limiting. There is this wonderful program called "file" which surely could be used to figure out what app to use on a file.11:22
LiberCogitoSithe: www.cedega.com/support11:22
sauvinJavid, yes. I use dd.11:22
SitheI like how Javid even CONSIDERS asking another question while my WoW still isn't working! HOW DARE YOU11:22
DarkEDkahrytan, uh no i didnt have to... for the third time, it just came back :)11:22
LiberCogitosean071307: I want a shirt that says STFU and google it.11:22
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sauvinSithe, you're a monomaniac.11:23
kahrytanDarkED: cuz you add notification area back?11:23
sean071307i'll link you to a page javin, or if sauvin comes up w. one that works too ;) and yes, beth, google = our god11:23
DarkEDkahrytan, yes11:23
JavidThat's a long man page, I'll read it later. Thanks though.11:23
Sithesauvin: Inglish plz?11:23
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kahrytanDarkED: Ditto here.11:23
DarkEDkahrytan, but i already had it before11:23
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DarkEDit just wasnt working for some reason11:23
sauvinThat WAS English!11:23
sean071307lol, sithe, calm down much?11:23
Sithesauvin: and it means?11:23
Smirker_hey.  is there a package to download the C header files (like stdio.h) so my compiler will work ;p11:23
ayoebHallo !11:23
kahrytanDarkED: It needs Notification area for icon11:23
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sean071307hey sithe, m-w.com ;)11:24
sauvinIt means you need to take a break and run off to www.dictionary.com and learn some more English.11:24
sean071307hey ayoeb11:24
DarkEDkahrytan, yes, i know, i already HAD notification area11:24
sauvinWho was asking about ripping a CD?11:24
perpetualSithe is having withdrawal symptoms?11:24
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Sithe(no longer in technical use) a psychosis characterized by thoughts confined to one idea or group of ideas.11:24
LiberCogitoperpetual: looks more like PMS.11:24
Sithe...........................................................11:24
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kahrytanDarkED: Im glad it works now11:24
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Myrtti!offtopic11:24
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:24
DarkEDkahrytan, me too11:24
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sean071307Javid11:25
sean071307sauvin.11:25
sean071307lol, apparenlty perpetual ;)11:25
dresdenhello can somebody help me, i want to make my current partition (im using right now) smaller (so i may make it free space)11:25
Sithesauvin: So you think I have phychosis?11:25
dresdeni went into gnome partition editor and i cannot make the current volume smaller because my OS is on it11:25
dresdensomebody help?11:25
LiberCogitodresden: Go to add remove and type in partition11:25
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dresdenok11:25
sean071307dresden, try gparted, it is amazing for that11:25
kahrytandresden: Boot from cd.11:25
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sauvindd if=/dev/cdrom0 of=myfile.iso11:25
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dresdenok tguys thank youso much11:25
LiberCogitodresden: download gnome partition editor, or gparted.11:25
dresdenawesome i will do that thank you11:26
Sithesauvin: Actually i could give a damn about WoW. Its the fact that i spend $15 on a product that doesn't work11:26
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sean071307or qtparted too11:26
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dresdeni will try from CD if does not work11:26
dresdenthank you all soo much11:26
kahrytandresden: Can't change a mounted partition.11:26
LiberCogitoSithe: So complain to the people that can make it work.11:26
sean071307then sithe, try contacting the comp, not a free support11:26
Javidman what11:26
dresdenyeah thats what my prob is11:26
sauvinYou spent $15 on what, precisely?11:26
sean071307exactly liber11:26
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Sithesean071307 change please. its hard to type11:26
tulgaI need install initscripts 2.86.ds1-38.1 on gutsy. where is deb?11:26
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kahrytandresden: So boot form Live CD. and make changes from there11:26
LiberCogitoSithe: Quit being such an AOL member.11:26
sean071307change what?11:26
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dresdenOK guess i have to thanks11:26
icanichi there11:26
dresdeni will do that!! :)11:26
sauvinYour nick. Sithe apparently doesn't believe in his tab key.11:26
icaniccan someone help me with installation of envys driver11:27
dresdenwill Gparted know not to make current data  into free space??11:27
perpetualQuestion: How do I make gnome-screensaver span two monitors, instead of displaying two separate screensavers on each monitor? I use nvidia drivers with twinview.11:27
sean071307haha, nope11:27
sean071307i like mine11:27
Sithesauvin: I dont git it...11:27
LiberCogito!gutsy | Tulga11:27
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ubotuTulga: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+111:27
dresdendoes gparted know only to make empty data free space right??11:27
sean071307perpetual, there's a good tut on that in the ubuntu forums11:27
sean071307yes dresden, which you can then make into a part11:27
jengc0ilhello11:27
SitheI IZ A NUB TO LINUX11:27
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dresdenawesome thnak you i will go now11:27
dresdenthank you #ubuntu11:27
icanicI can't install envy nvidia driver11:27
perpetualsean071307, please point me the way, I've been searching the whole afternoon11:27
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robert_has|does the latest version of OpenOffice.org (ever) made X take a permanent vacation for anybody?11:28
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sean071307perpetual, i'll link you11:28
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icanicsomeon help?11:28
sauvinAnd the $15 you're so sore about losing is an ubuntu livecd?11:28
icanicI'm new11:28
SitheI kinda think I spice this IRC up a bit11:28
rudy_1good morning11:28
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sean071307morning rudy11:28
LiberCogitosauvin: No, he paid to GET SUPPORT from transgaming.  But instead of using it, he's bitching here bceause he apparently has the intelligence of an AOL member.11:28
sauvinOooOo... a CONCEITED monomaniac!11:28
ramy__hi all. i have this error message "Could not find information on interface 'eth0:avahi' in /proc/net/dev"11:28
sean071307lmao i love you liber11:29
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SitheOMFG WOW WORKS11:29
sean071307hi ramy11:29
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rudy_1I have installed the java run time machine jre1.5 and created the symbolic link into the mozilla/plugins directory11:29
Leo1989hi2all11:29
sean071307hey leo11:29
sauvinLiberCogito, congratulations. I didn't think it could be done. You've just insulted AOL membership.11:29
sean071307lmao11:29
rudy_1then when i start the browser it crashes systematically11:29
sean071307yaaaaaaay aol11:29
rudy_1anyone can help me pls?11:29
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sean071307i think me and liber are the only one's who truely appreciate that comment though ;)11:29
Leo1989I have Ubuntu Fiesty. How to bring up VPN?11:29
LiberCogitosauvin: No, I really haven't.  I used to work AOL support.  Someone once called me because the caller ID on their multiuse printer wasn't working.11:30
sean071307rudy, try deleting the sym links and re-creating11:30
icanicsomeone11:30
icanicit's just 5 mins11:30
sean071307i got one about "my tv doesn't work"11:30
sauvinyou'd have to have been on the Nets in '93 when AOL unleashed the floodgates from hell, I suppose.11:30
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sean071307icanic, problem again?11:30
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icanicCant install envy drivers11:30
XimDevubuntu tasksel question11:30
LiberCogitosauvin: I was 8 in 93.  :-p11:30
icanicsome files are mising but dont know why11:30
sauvinLiberCogito, how many calls did you get about broken coffee cup holders?11:30
XimDevwill tasksel install the latest packages?11:30
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robert_LiberCogito, I was 10. :P11:31
sean071307Xim, it should11:31
LiberCogitosauvin: I never got that one!  But I got alot of random other non software related crap.11:31
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sean071307lmao, sauvin was that you calling in ;)11:31
SitheI would like to thank sauvin, sean071307, and perpetual for their help. Thankies. I made cupcakez anyone of yooh want some?11:31
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sean071307i do Sithe!!!11:31
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LiberCogitosauvin: Best call ever was what's my email address.  The woman could not find the period key.  She didn't know what a ? was either.11:31
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sauvinI was... um... 35? AOL suddenly breaking into the usenet, IRC and everywhere else with their loud strident dumber-than-mules attitudes was nothing short of dismaying. Most of them were, I'm ashamed to say, Americans.11:32
sean071307lol i love you liber11:32
sean071307sauvin, i'm not american, sry ;)11:32
LiberCogitosauvin: Well, most our fellow americans are idiots.11:32
vins  11:32
LiberCogitosean071307: you are too.11:32
mypapitlol11:32
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sauvinvins, moi non pas aussi :D11:32
sean071307nope, i'm a proud member of the socialst republic of america11:32
sean071307not american11:32
sean071307not at all.11:33
mypapitkoi buke ore amerika11:33
sean071307haha11:33
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LiberCogitosean071307:  You can't even spell socialist.11:33
vins 11:33
vins ?11:33
sauvinYou did WHAT kind of bukkake on America's WHAT!?11:33
sean071307socialist? i'm still kinda drunk11:33
LiberCogito!ru11:33
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke11:33
sean071307!en11:33
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat11:33
sean071307!fr lol11:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fr lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:33
GothCloudsauvin: AOL BROKE into usenet?11:33
LiberCogitosean071307: can we go smoke now?11:33
Sithesauvin: what were those sudo commands you had me run again? Ima put them in a text document if it comes up again11:33
sean071307i agree11:33
sean071307brb pplz11:33
Sitheerr or sean11:33
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sauvinGothCloud, yea. I was there the very day it happened. I mean, they came in HORDES.11:34
GothCloudsauvin: What happened?11:34
sauvinSithe, I didn't give you the sudo commands because I don't remember what they were.11:34
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icani1sean?11:34
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Sithesauvin: I think it was sean11:34
fqhuyxin cho! c ngi vit nam no  y khng nh11:34
sauvinGothCloud, here's a visual: Hell's Angels crashing the party at Carnegie Hall.11:34
icani1can someone help me with the envy thing? please! /beg11:35
sauvinEnvy? Isn't that some kind of automated install script?11:35
icani1yes11:35
sauvinEven if I could, I'd refuse to help you trash your system.11:36
icani1omg11:36
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icani1the help me how not to trash it :-)11:36
sauvinDon't use envy.11:36
icani1*then11:36
icani1yea, but how to install the drivers manually11:36
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Geek_!envy11:37
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!11:37
Geek_note what it says ;)11:37
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icani1it never break-ed it11:37
icani1but now I can't install the drivers with it11:38
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icani1it says that the files are missing11:38
Sithesean!11:38
icani1but I would install it manualy if someone tell me how11:38
sauvinWhat are the drivers?11:38
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SitheSEANNN11:39
rudy_1my mozilla firefox stil crashes after installing the java real time machine11:39
fqhuyare there any way to make a "shortcut" for an executable file with a custom Icon11:39
rudy_1is it a known issue or is it something special forme?11:39
icani1NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run11:39
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sauvinSithe, have a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver11:40
sauvinfghuy, yes, there is.11:41
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sauvinfghuy, are you using KDE?11:41
fqhuyGnome11:41
icani1sauvin?11:41
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sauvinMmkay, what I'm about to tell you may or may not fit you perfectly: where you want your icon to appear, RIGHT CLICK.11:41
icani1you asked me what the drivers are?11:42
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sauvinyou'll probably be presented with a number of options, including "New..."11:42
sauvinicani1, yes. What drivers are you trying to install?11:42
icani1NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run11:42
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RivaeAeryaGuys, i followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion guide to install compiz fusion but that broke all my apt-get, see here: http://rafb.net/p/jiiBpD49.html . Can you guys help me fix it?11:42
sauvinWhat the blue-streaked peeping fudge is a .run file!?11:42
icani1I have downloadet it from nvidia11:43
JavidI would bet you messed up /etc/apt/sources.list11:43
icani1it says driver11:43
JavidGoogle for a default one for your distro and replace it with that11:43
fqhuysauvin: yes11:43
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JavidRivaeAerya: See above11:43
sauvinIt probably is, but I have NO damned idea how to unpackage it. have you tried the synaptics repos?11:43
perpetualsean071307, I'm searching the ubuntu forums. can I have that link you mentioned please?11:43
icani1nope11:43
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icani1I'm new so11:44
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rudy_1I think i hage installed already11:44
rudy_1this nvidia file11:44
icani1how11:44
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icani1?11:44
rudy_1have you read the intallation tips?11:44
JavidRivaeAerya, I followed the same guide and it worked fine, so you probably erred in some way.11:44
sauvinfghuy, so you can honk on "Link to application...", create the link and edit it for things like "start in directory", the name of the application itself, and et cetera.11:44
icani1it's only for suse11:44
rudy_1u have to change something in teh X config file11:44
JavidRivaeAerya: can you pastebin the entire contents of /etc/apt/sources.list?11:44
RivaeAeryaJavid: http://rafb.net/p/YMZAJr40.html11:44
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sauvinicani1, try System->Synaptics Package Manager (your exact links may vary; I'm using KDE, not gnome)11:45
fqhuysauvin: thanks11:45
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xconspirisisthey. I am trying to get an external hdd working. It appears in /var/log/messages, just saying "found new high speed usb device", but how do I know what uuid/block dev has been assigned to it?11:45
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JavidHuh. That appears in order. I'd still try finding a default one for Edgy11:45
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sauvinxconspirisist, what operating system are you using?11:46
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xconspirisistsauvin: Ubuntu 7.04.11:46
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sauvinWhat kind of external hdd?11:46
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xconspirisistIt's just a USB Western Digital one...?11:46
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JavidRivaeAerya: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html11:47
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icani1sauvin, I can't select it there11:47
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JavidWait, that one's way not default. Ignore me.11:47
sauvinMmkay, you probably don't even need to futz with device numbers and such like. If your USB HDD is plugged in, navigate to /media and see what's there.11:47
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RivaeAeryaJavid: Feisty here11:47
JavidOh, hang on then.11:47
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sauvinOn my feisty, the two partitions on my usb hdd are "disk" and "disk-1" mountpoints.11:48
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inquihi all,  AUDIO: how to find which is in kernel:  OSS or ALSA .... and how to simulate OSS on ALSA  ?11:48
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xconspirisistThere are a couple of directories that may have been made (sdh1, sdi1), but they're empty, and mount, and fdisk -l do not list the drive.11:48
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sauvininqui, before anybody tries to answer that, why do you ask?11:48
sauvinxconspirisist, unplug the drive and plug it back in.11:49
inquisauvin:  i want to run wine in better performance11:49
JavidRivaeAerya: http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=38873811:49
xconspirisistsauvin: Have done.11:49
inquiwhat is your mounting problem?11:49
xconspirisistinqui: I want to try and get an external hdd working.11:49
sauvinxconspirisist, did your dm pop up a window or two saying "new hardware found" or somesuch?11:49
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inquixconspirisist:  whats the matter?11:50
sean071307kk back gys11:50
xconspirisistI don't run an xserver on this box.11:50
sauvinARGH.11:50
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xconspirisistinqui: I want to know what uuid/block device it has been assigned.11:50
inquilol11:50
inquiokay11:50
inquijust a moment11:50
sauvinMmkay... what about lsusb?11:50
inquigot same problem yesterday11:50
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xconspirisistlsub shows various Bus 00x, device 001, id 0000:0000, etc.11:51
inquixconspirisist:  ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/11:51
inquitry thisone11:51
xconspirisistYeah, that just lists all the uuids of the uuid's on my system?11:51
Aye|Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to BOOT with my nvidia geforce 6200, because it will only boot with my onboard card, but once X is loaded it will use my PCI graphics card.11:51
sauvinxconspirisist, do any of the lsusb lines contain the string "western"?11:51
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inquixcon try it11:51
xconspirisistsauvin: They do not.11:51
xconspirisistinqui: Yeah. lots of uuids.11:52
sean071307xconspirists, if i may ask, what's the problem again?11:52
sauvinI had this problem a few days ago, and for me, it was a bad cable.11:52
sauvinBus 003 Device 002: ID 1058:0901 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.11:52
xconspirisistsean071307: I am trying to get an external hdd working. I want to know what uuid/block device linux has assigned to it.11:52
sauvinTHAT is the line I get when I have GOOD cable.11:52
inquixconspirisist:  so ... you dont know which is tthe one you want ?11:52
xconspirisistinqui: How the hell would I know? I've got over 8 hdd's on this system. :/11:53
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inquimacke ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and then remove disc - do again ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/  and the one that is missing was ur external disc11:53
sean071307xconspirist do you know what device it is?11:53
hersheyi need some help11:53
sean071307my usb hd, if not plugged in on install, does not recieve a uuid11:53
xconspirisistsean071307: Yeah, it's an external WD caddy stroke hard drive.11:53
sean071307hershey, what's up?11:53
sauvinhershey, I need some sleep. Hurry up and ask already!11:53
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xconspirisistsean071307: Ah, that's interesting.11:53
inquixconspirisist:  did you get my proposal?11:53
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sean071307hang on, let me check something for you xconspirist, i'm plugging in my wd now11:54
xconspirisistinqui: Yes. Oh It's worth a try, brb, I'll go try turning it off & on again.11:54
inquiWD sucks- hard11:54
sauvinI would plug and unplug, but I'm using the drive atm.11:54
xconspirisistsean071307: Thanks.11:54
hersheyi installed ubuntu server 7.04 and it start out in command list w/out graphic inerface11:54
sauvinI have three external USB drives, all WD, and none suck.11:54
xconspirisistinqui: WD does not suck. :/11:54
inquiso how to find out if the kernel uses ALSA or OSS ?11:54
inquiWD sucks11:54
inquigot a mybook11:55
inqui from china11:55
sean071307inqui, wd does not suck ;)11:55
inquieverything produced in china sucks11:55
inqui;D:11:55
xconspirisistinqui: Shut up. :( You don't know what you're on about.11:55
rudy_1my problem with firefox and java is solved: it was a link to the wrong java-compiler (ns7-gcc instead of ns7...)11:55
sauvinhershey, my understanding is that ubuntu server does not include GUI.11:55
gordonjcpinqui: any kernel released in the past five years at least uses ALSA11:55
sean071307Thailand**11:55
hersheyhow do i get the gui up, someone help11:55
gordonjcpinqui: OSS is dead11:55
rudy_1thanks everyone!11:55
gordonjcpinqui: OSS has been dead for about 10 years11:55
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inquigordonjcp:  mmm and how to activate OSS simulation?11:55
sean071307i use oss gordonjcp11:55
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xconspirisisthershey: Did you install Ubuntu server?11:55
sauvinI think a few of the toys I have use OSS.11:56
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hersheyyes11:56
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xconspirisisthershey: type `startx` at the pts.11:56
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xconspirisistI'm not sure if ubuntu server ships with an xserver. :P11:56
dezminit doesn't iirc11:56
ameyerit doesn't11:56
sauvinI've been told it doesn't.11:56
dezminhershey, why did you install server?11:57
xconspirisisthershey: In that case, try `apt-get install xserver-xorg gdm ubuntu-desktop`11:57
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hersheyasks me to install xinit11:57
andyp_hi11:57
dezminyea11:57
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ameyerI've done a cli install, which is apparently a server install with a desktop kernel, and there is no X11:57
inquixconspirisist:  Concerning the WD problem ...  there are a lot of people having trouble with  mybooks because they are not assembled well enough  defective contact ... that is avoidable ! anyway11:57
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andyp_if i have a print out in a xterm shell how can i copy and paste or save to a file11:57
Mik1Hi I just stuffed my Ubuntu11:57
xconspirisistinqui: What are you talking about?!11:57
Nikolashershey, just go install the normal desktop version of Ubuntu11:57
Mik1pulled some PCI things out11:58
xconspirisistsean071307: Any luck?11:58
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Mik1and swapped with others11:58
hersheyaite then, thnk for the help11:58
Mik1and X does not work11:58
ameyerand screen, and anything that might be remotely useful11:58
sean071307plugged in, checkin uuids now xconspi ;)11:58
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xconspirisistsean071307: Cheers bud.11:58
Mik1im on live atm and need to beable to copy some files to drives that have NTFS11:58
inquixconspirisist:  that the WD mybooks from china suck...11:58
sean071307nothing in fstab about the new usb device11:58
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faileashmm, if i needed to compile stuff, what package would i need?11:58
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xconspirisistinqui: That's great.11:59
sean071307but i'm trying to see if i can assign a new uuid to it ;)11:59
inqui=D11:59
SitheSEAN11:59
sauvinfaileas, that depends on what you need to compile. The Linux world has languages I've never even HEARD of.11:59
xconspirisistsean071307: It would not appear in fstab?11:59
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sean071307it should, if it's mounted, or attempted to mount at boot11:59
Sithesean071307: Hey what were those Sudo commands you sold me to run? Im going to save them in a text document if I ever need to do it again11:59
xconspirisistah, you rebooted, mmkay.11:59
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inquixconspirisist:  yeah just lost nearly 500gb backup - like many people11:59
sean071307site, for ati11:59
sean071307it's aticonfig --initial11:59
SitheYes11:59
faileassauvin,: C apps i suppose? i want GCC/Make, and kernel sources, at least11:59
sean071307and aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv12:00
sean071307and depmod -a12:00
sean071307and modprobe fglrx12:00
Sithedoes it matter what ordeR?12:00
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sauvinfaileas, do a gcc -dumpver at a command line.12:00
sean071307that order sithe12:00
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inquixconspirisist:  in between the two ' ls by uuid' and the removal you could sudo mount -a ...maybe this helps too12:00
sean071307and conspierist, i'm still searching for you12:00
xconspirisistcheers sean071307.12:01
xconspirisistinqui: Please stop talking to me.12:01
sauvinAaaAaaAAaaAaaagggHh!12:01
xconspirisistsauvin: hrh.12:01
xconspirisist*heh.12:01
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robwb12:01
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TehBotolwewww12:01
Sithety sean12:01
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sauvinI'd forgotten just how irritating netsplits can be; they'd not been a regular feature since there WAS only one IRC net.12:02
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faileassauvin: gcc: no input files12:02
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andyp_how can i save from a xterm shell and then paste or copy to a file?12:02
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xconspirisistsauvin: netsplits on freenode?12:02
sean071307np Sithe12:02
sauvinfaileas, that means you have gcc.12:02
sean071307ati is a pain sometimes12:02
sean071307but it's amazing when it works12:02
sauvinI'm an idiot. What I WANTED you to do was gcc -dumpversion12:02
sean071307sauvin, don't call yourself an idiot, everyone makes mistakes ;)12:03
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toostrong_2851http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=285112:03
sauvinsean071307, there's nothing "amazing" about the fact that 3d acceleration is not available for my ATI Radeon under Linux.12:03
hersheyis ubuntu desktop 64 better than 32bit version?12:03
sean071307it is, but only on gutsy so far =[12:03
xconspirisisthershey: It is if your have a 64 bit proc :)12:03
Catsceoif you want flash its not12:03
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sean071307hershey, i like 32 bit, even on a 64 proc12:03
Aye|Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to BOOT with my nvidia geforce 6200, because it will only boot with my onboard card, but once X is loaded it will use my PCI graphics card.12:04
hersheythanks12:04
sauvin32 bit stuff is still a lot better supported.12:04
sean071307and it runs faster on 32 bit chipsets ;)12:04
sean07130764**12:04
sean071307sry12:04
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pawanhi12:04
xconspirisistAye|: You need to look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Change the default device.12:04
pawani ha a joystick12:04
sean071307hey pawan12:04
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hersheygood point12:04
pawanhow to install it12:04
inquisean071307:  fgl_glxgears 400fps x400 readon12:04
mjk64Hi! Does Dapper have a "googleearth-package" like Debian has?12:05
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pawan!joystick12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
DDragon-SMACwouldent it use the debian package?12:05
faileassauvin: 4.1.212:05
sean071307mjk i believe it does12:05
sean071307i may be mistaken though12:05
sean071307check the repos12:05
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faileasalso.. how do i install restricted drivers from KDE?12:06
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andyp_how can i copy and paste fron xterm12:06
sauvinfaileas, you have a very recent version of gcc. You SHOULD be all set.12:06
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xconspirisistandyp_: Use gnome-terminal, that would be easier to copy & paste from.12:06
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xconspirisistAlthough from xtern, select & right click.12:07
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andyp_xconspirisist i am have fluxbox no gnome12:07
sean071307i agree w. xconspirists12:07
sean071307xconspirist**12:07
hersheyanyone know of any good emulator for ubuntu feisty12:07
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sean071307andyp, it still has a term ;)12:07
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xconspirisistandyp_: type "gnome-terminal" within xterm then?12:07
sean071307hershey, virtualbox and qemu are amazing12:08
sauvinErm.. what kind of "emulator"?12:08
cbaledoes anyone know h ow to upload photos onto sites such as photobucket?12:08
xconspirisisthershey: What sort of emulator?12:08
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yeniklasorHow can I install to openoffice another language support? I downloaded "OOo_2.2.1_LinuxIntel_langpack_generic_tr.tar.gz" Now how can I install it?12:08
xconspirisistcbale: Wrong room bud :(12:08
sean071307^^ agreed12:08
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cbalesorry ty anyway :)12:08
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xconspirisistyeniklasor: Are you using ubuntu?12:08
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yeniklasoryes12:08
xconspirisistLook in the repo's.12:08
hersheywhat will they emulate?12:08
sean071307there's a pkg for it12:09
sauvinyeniklasor, I think you'll find all that stuff in the synaptic package manage.r12:09
xconspirisistThere are like a bajillion open office languages.12:09
ShayeI need your advice guys. I have a server at my home that is connected to a router, the dhcp ip is 192.168.0.102, but I can12:09
sean071307hershey, qemu will emulate mac, win 9x - vista (buggy)12:09
sean071307same w. virtualbox12:09
sauvinxconspirisist, more like two bajillion.12:09
dresdenhelp!!! since i installed ubuntu, i can no longer load windows [2000] !! i get a blue screen and it sais "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE"!!!!!! i even deleted my windows and loaded an earlier backup ghost (cloned image) of my windows partition and it still does not run!!!12:09
xconspirisisthershey: Emulator is rather a generic term. There are many different types. What do you want to emulate?12:09
clemyeatsdoes your ISP limit your data transfer? is 10GB a lot for home use??12:09
xconspirisistsauvin: heh.12:09
hersheywhich is better qemu or virtualbox?12:09
ShayeI need your advice guys. I have a server at my home that is connected to a router, the dhcp ip is 192.168.0.102, but I can't access the server with the external ip :/ {e.g connect to ssh, ftp, bnc, only with the 192.168.0.102 ip), any idea why?12:09
AboSamoor__hey all, i have a problem with /etc/network/interfaces i edited it without making a backup, what i can do now ?12:09
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sauvinIf he wants to emulate a Coleco Adam, qemu ain't gonna help.12:09
dresdenhelp!!! since i installed ubuntu, i can no longer load windows [2000] !! i get a blue screen and it sais "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE"!!!!!! i even deleted my windows and loaded an earlier backup ghost (cloned image) of my windows partition and it still does not run!!!12:09
clemyeatshershey: virtualbox is more user-friendly IMHO12:09
hersheymac and xp12:09
sean071307virtualbox is gui, qemu is amazing but command based12:09
xconspirisistStop copying & pasting your questions.12:10
dresdenok12:10
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gordonjcphershey: what are you trying to emulate?12:10
xconspirisistWe'll get to you one at a time.12:10
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dresdenok12:10
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sean071307thank you12:10
xconspirisistdresden: What order did you install your operating systems, windows, then linux?12:10
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andyp_xconspirisist: command not found gnome-terminal12:10
hersheymac os x12:10
cakrABIrawahow to save my config network from consol12:10
sauvinWhat's wrong with command-based?12:10
sean071307couldn't agree more xconspir12:10
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dresdenyes xconspirisist12:10
xconspirisistandyp_: Are you using ubuntu?12:10
sean071307command based isn't as User Friendly12:10
xconspirisistdresden: On the same disk?12:10
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andyp_yes on fluxbox12:10
dresdenyes , windows in NTFS and linux in a new one (that was a lot of free space)12:11
HymnToLifesean071307, define "User-FRiendly"12:11
hersheythanks i will try virtualbox then12:11
sean071307dresden, have you tried running your repair cd?12:11
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xconspirisistandyp_: Select & right click to copy.12:11
dresdenno i have not, do you think the windows2000 repair cd will work?? why is it broken??12:11
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hersheyhow about game console emulator, any good ones for ubuntu?12:11
xconspirisistdresden: No, did you install them on separate hard disks?12:11
dresdenon the same disk, 2 different partitions12:11
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xconspirisisthershey: What sort of games console?12:11
AboSamoor__hey all, i have a problem with /etc/network/interfaces i edited it without making a backup, what i can do now ?12:11
andyp_and paste say into nano editor12:11
sean071307what type of emulator hershey?12:12
HymnToLifeAboSamoor__, edit it again to make it right ?12:12
xconspirisistAboSamoor__: You can use conventional tools to repair it?12:12
hersheylike neo geo12:12
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dresdeni installed linux in some free space on the same drive my windows is on, and now windows wont boot12:12
pawanhow to open wine drive12:12
sean071307some win based game emulators run uner wine for ds etc12:12
xconspirisistandyp_: From nano, press the insert key.12:12
inquihow to stop the alsa daemon?12:12
Javidpawan: /home/user/.wine12:12
sean071307it's /home/USER/.wine12:12
AboSamoor__ xconspirisist like what, i'm new to ubuntu ?12:12
sean071307or ~/.wine12:12
JavidAlso, #winehq12:12
LiberCogitohershey:  Tons.  Type emulator in the add/remove panel12:12
xconspirisistAboSamoor__: Look in the system menu.12:12
Shayeam i gonna get an answer or shoild i reask? :)12:12
cakrABIrawahow to12:12
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hersheyk cool, thanks again12:12
Shayeshould*12:12
xconspirisistShaye: reask.12:12
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Aye|Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to BOOT with my nvidia geforce 6200, because it will only boot with my onboard card, but once X is loaded it will use my PCI graphics card.12:13
sean071307reask12:13
hersheythey irc channel is so helpful12:13
hersheythanks guys12:13
ShayeI have a server at my home that is connected to a router, the dhcp ip is 192.168.0.102, but I can't access the server with the external ip :/ {e.g connect to ssh, ftp, bnc, only with the 192.168.0.102 ip), any idea why?12:13
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cakrABIrawahow to save my network configutation ?12:13
dresdeni dont understand why i should run my repair CD, i just loaded a full backup of my working windows partition, and i dont want my not-windows data screwed up12:13
xconspirisisthershey: You're welcome.12:13
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dresdencan somebody help me make my windows bootable again??12:13
cakrABIrawacause every reboot my system that lose12:13
DooMRunneRhi12:13
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sean071307shaye, do u know ur real ip?12:13
andyp_insert key?12:13
xconspirisistShaye: You need to setup port forwarding?12:13
xconspirisistsean071307: Looks like we may have both got lost, any idea on the wd problem?12:13
Shayesean071307 yeah lol12:13
sean071307ie if you go to aprelium.com/ip, it will show your real ip12:13
dresdeni use linux for everything now but i wanted to play some video games and i cant because windows wont boot12:14
xconspirisistor whatismyip.com12:14
Shayei got the real ip..12:14
Walls7ON the instillation, i want to make it dual boot, and i DO have free space, so i set 500mg as swap, and 10gb, but what type do i make that portion as?12:14
yeniklasorxconspirisist: This openoffice lang package has a spellchecker for my language. Synaptyc didn't install my lang's spell check package.12:14
Shayethe external12:14
sean071307xcon, try this link for your issue buddy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32687112:14
Shayeit's still not responding12:14
xconspirisistdresden: Then fix windows :)12:14
dresdeni am so confused as to why my windows is broken??12:14
sean071307like conspirist said, port forwarding12:14
sean071307check w. your isp/router man for support12:14
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xconspirisistyeniklasor: Is there some sort of error message?12:14
xconspirisistsean071307: Many thanks.12:14
dresdenwhy the heck is my windows broken?? i told you i loaded a backup of a previously working windows, and it still wont boot12:14
sean071307best bet would be router man, as isps don't usually support that12:14
sean071307dresden, calm down plz12:15
dresdeni think the presence of linux is some how messing up my boot12:15
dresdenok12:15
faileasdresden: XP or vista?12:15
dresden200012:15
dresdenits just like XP12:15
andyp_its there a shell that has copy and paste tabs like a gui on it?12:15
faileashmm12:15
sean071307dresden, linux won't mess up ur boot12:15
xconspirisistdresden: Are they installed on two separate hard disks?12:15
faileasyeah12:15
yeniklasorxconspirisist : Lang is installing but there is no spellcheck for Turkish.12:15
hersheyey dresden u bit torrent stuff?12:15
dresdenno they are on the same disk12:15
dresdenyeah i like bittorrent12:15
sean071307andyp, gnome-terminal, and the xfce-terminal do12:15
sauvinDresden, when you boot the computer, are you presented with a grub menu?12:15
faileasno, but resizing NTFS sometimes does12:15
yeniklasorAny document to installing "OOo_2.2.1_LinuxIntel_langpack_generic_tr.tar.gz" ?12:15
hersheyi got a good version of xp today12:15
LiberCogitosean071307: It will if its vista and you insatll grub to the MBR12:15
xconspirisistyeniklasor: I'm afraid I'm not sure what spelling engine open office uses.12:15
dresdeni dont know what grub means, but it says launch linux or windows12:15
xconspirisistI thought it was a custom open office one, that would come with a turkish langauge pack.12:16
hersheyit was like a performance version of xp some july edition12:16
dresdenand if i choose windows, i get INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE12:16
yeniklasorok12:16
dresdenthe menu i get was created by linux12:16
hersheytry finding that on isohunt or something12:16
sean071307and xcon, i'm sorry, you're very welcome12:16
xconspirisistIt's too hectic in here :(12:16
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Walls7on the installation, i set 500mg and the type is 'swap'. now i made a new portion for unbutu, but what type to i set the portion as?12:16
dresdenmy windowsi s not broken hershey12:16
dresdenit just cannot boot12:16
andyp_dresden: i tried bittorrent but its very slow tried to download a 100mb file12:16
sean071307agreed xcon12:16
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hersheyoh my bad12:16
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dresdenandyp you need to use port forwarding12:16
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dresdengo to portforward.com and it will help you andyp12:17
dresdenandyp_ *12:17
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chrissturmdoes ubuntu contain rtai extensions?12:17
sean071307for everyone's info, my aim is zgreatelitest, for a less chaotic, easier way for support12:17
dresdensomebody help me???12:17
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dresdeni get the linux boot menu, and if i choose windows i get INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE12:17
hersheyyeah that boot active inactive shtuff is tricky sometimes12:17
andyp_dresden: what is *12:17
dresdeni was just correcting my typo12:17
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dresdenandyp_ go to portforward.com to make bittorrent work12:18
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sauvinAlmost sounds like you need to edit the grub table :\12:18
andyp_ok thanks12:18
sean071307i agree w. sauvin12:18
dresdeni figured linux fixed it for me sauvin??12:18
amorphous_still no-one can suggest why user accounts are losing internet connection on a feisty box?12:18
sauvinEither that or your Windows partition is missing its boot loade.r12:18
sean071307try to reinstall grub, or manually edit it12:18
dresdenlinx created a broken grub table?12:18
dresdenmy windows is fine because its a previously working backup (clone image)12:18
sean071307amorphous, hardwire or wireless?12:18
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sauvinyou're assuming you had a good backup.12:18
dresdeni did because ive used it many times12:18
sean071307haha, sauvin, couldn't say it better12:18
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EJ\\'elcome ack jesuss12:19
dresdenbecause windows gets spyware and crap so i have used my backup multiple times12:19
dresdenit no longer works now that i have linux12:19
sauvinWhat version of Windows?12:19
dresdenwindows 2000 (its just like XP)12:19
sean071307sauvin it's 2k12:19
dresdenwin2k pro12:19
sean071307not just like xp dresden12:19
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Kaslecan anyone please tell me an EASY guide to install my bcm43xx? i've tried ndiswrapper and fwcutter... but both of it gives me an error message!12:19
dresdenafaik it does every thing XP does...xp is prettier12:19
sauvinThere ARE some pretty substantial differences between 2k and XP.12:19
sean0713072k pro is stil the nt 4.0 kernel, xp is 5, vista 6 ;)12:19
dresdenyeah but its identical12:20
Aye|Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to BOOT with my nvidia geforce 6200, because it will only boot with my onboard card, but once X is loaded it will use my PCI graphics card.12:20
sauvinYup. They're all NT class operating systems.12:20
dresdenok maybe its not12:20
dresdenany way12:20
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sauvinLet me see if I can find out what my grub table says...12:20
dresdenthanks12:20
sean071307all nt class, but not all the same fork of the nt 4.0 kernel ;)12:20
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pawanhow to open nes file12:20
sauvin!@#$@%#12:20
sean071307dresden, have you tried googleing this issue?12:20
sauvinHow is grub edited manually?12:20
Kasle tell me an EASY guide to install my bcm43xx? i've tried ndiswrapper and fwcutter... but both of it gives me an error message12:20
dresdenyes but i cant find it12:20
sean071307kk, well i'm letting sauving help you w. this12:21
LiberCogitoaye|: disable your onboard?12:21
dresdenok12:21
Aye|i have12:21
dresdenthanks sean12:21
Aye|still wont boot it hangs while booting12:21
sean071307kasle, there is a guide for bcm43xx12:21
sean071307ask liber12:21
LiberCogitoKasle: Oh, I can!12:21
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benihow can i count the lines of a textfile?12:21
sean071307thank you beth <312:21
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dgjones!bcm43xx12:21
ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx12:21
KasleLiberCogito: you do?12:21
LiberCogitoKasle: Open etc/networking/interfaces12:21
sean071307beni, you can use emacs, which does it12:21
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LiberCogitoKasle: comment out everything except for lo12:21
pawanhow to open nes ROM file12:21
sean071307and gedit, mousepad have that functionality as well12:21
LiberCogitoKasle: save, and reboot.12:21
Kasledgjones: i ve tried that12:22
LiberCogitoKasle: its odd, but it works.12:22
benisean071307: there was a handy command... foo -l or so12:22
sean071307brb guys!12:22
Aye|LiberCogito, if i set my pci card to init display first or whatever ubuntu will hang12:22
mojo_monkeycan any one tell me if a linux box can perform the fuctions of an xrod packet shaping device12:22
sauvindresden, examine the file /boot/grub/menu.lst12:22
benihow can i count the lines of a textfile?12:22
sean071307hm, beni, i'll see what i can find, im me on zgreatelitest on aim, i'm helping someone else right now12:22
LiberCogitobeni: Erm, go to the last line, look in the bottom left hand corner where it says LN12:22
Catsceois the next version of Ubuntu (not Gusty, the next one) a LTS?12:22
dresdenok how do i do that sauvin12:22
sauvinErm, nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ?12:22
dresdenok12:22
sean071307mojo_monkey, what kind of functions?12:22
sauvin!pastebin12:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:23
LiberCogito!lts12:23
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.12:23
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dresdenok what am i looking for sauvin12:23
dresdenok i will do that12:23
gcostellobeni: cat textfile|wc -l12:23
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beniahhh okay thank you very much gcostello!12:23
mojo_monkeypacket shaping, filtering Nat Transparent proxy12:23
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Dao_Of_Programmio.,o12:23
Dao_Of_Programmiisn fedora the best?12:24
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amorphous_sean071307, hardwire12:24
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dresdensauvin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33217/12:24
Dao_Of_Programmiwhy ubuntu has most ppl!12:24
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CatsceoLiberCogito: that doesn't answer my question...12:24
LiberCogitoKasle: did it work?12:24
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sean071307mojo, yes, it can12:24
sauvindresden, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33218/12:24
sean071307amorphous, what?12:24
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sauvinThat's what mine says.12:24
dresdenok what do i do with that sauvin12:24
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mojo_monkeysean071307 packet shaping, filtering Nat Transparent proxy12:25
LiberCogitoCatsceo: what question?12:25
Walls7Which is better for me to create a partion on for ubuntu, "ext3" or "reiser"?12:25
dresdeni dont understand, what do you recommend i do sauvin12:25
amorphous_the machine doesn't seem to lose the connection, sean071307 but the user accounts keep losing it intermittently.12:25
sean071307i recommend rieser12:25
CatsceoLiberCogito: is the next version of Ubuntu (not Gusty, the next one) a LTS?12:25
sean071307ah, sry12:25
sauvinWalls7, I've heard wobbly things about reiser. most people use ext3.12:25
LiberCogitoWalls7: ext312:25
sean071307resier**12:25
Walls7hmm12:25
LiberCogitoCatsceo: No idea, google it.12:25
sean071307but if your using ext3 you can use selinux, not on reiser12:25
Walls7i'll stick with ext312:26
sean071307Cat, yes, it SHOULD be lts12:26
sean071307=]  good call for a beginner12:26
dresdensauvin what do you recommend i do??12:26
sauvindresden, the link I gave you shows you the relevent section to my menu.lst under /boot/grub. It's how grub knows to boot windows when I select it.12:26
sauvinDoes it look like yours?12:26
mojo_monkeysean071307 im trying to convince my boss that it can but how12:26
dresdeni dont know how do i find out12:26
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amorphous_sean071307, sorry - been trying to sort it out and my timings poor... but users are losing internet connection on a box where the connection seems to be fairly stable for the admin accounts12:26
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sauvindresden, you CAN read the link I gave, yes?12:26
amorphous_*account12:26
dresdenyes i can12:26
sean071307mojo, for sniffing, you can use ethereral, wireshark, etc, for shaping, there's countless tools12:26
dresdenim new to linux stuff, let me try to figure it out ok sauvin12:26
sauvinOk, and you can read your own /boot/grub/menu.lst, yes?12:26
LiberCogitoamorphous_: is it happening at specific time intervals?12:27
dresdenyes in terminal i think sauvin12:27
sean071307amorphous, have you pinged as the user itself?12:27
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amorphous_LiberCogito, I dont think so... why? what you thinking?12:27
sauvinGood enough. Root around in your menu.lst and look for things that talk about Windows 200012:27
mojo_monkeysean071307  cool12:27
dresdenok12:27
sean071307np mojo12:27
mojo_monkeyill get on it12:27
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amorphous_sean071307, not sure I understand. I have tried to ping google etc as the user - but no joy. At the same time I CAN ping google from the admin account.12:28
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LiberCogitoamorphous_: file permission issues maybe?  I mean, the difference between the admin accounts and user accounts is privlidge, right?12:28
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sean071307amorphous, have you checked the [system] ->network menu to make sure they match when in the user account12:29
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LiberCogitoamorphous_: I'd compare the /etc/network/interfaces of the admin user and the user.12:29
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amorphous_LiberCogito, I thought that, but the setup is largely as installed, and I have no idea what permissions it could be :/ (too noob :(12:29
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dresdensauvin i cant figure out how to "root around" in my menu.lst sorry12:30
seanlol he means browse it12:30
mojo_monkeyamorphous_  what kind of net architecture are you deploying12:30
LiberCogitoamorphous_: Compare the /etc/network/interfaces of the admin and the user.12:30
seanlook through it12:30
dresdeni dont know how12:30
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amorphous_LiberCogito, they each have their own?12:30
sauvinuse the arrow keys!12:30
dresdenim pretty new to linux :(12:30
dresdenok12:30
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dresdenarrow keys just moves the black box12:30
amorphous_mojo - define net-architecture (sorry)12:30
alsurencan anyone tell me how to turn off that annoying volume control on-screen-display, so I can use xf86AudioRaiseVolume for something else?12:30
Kaurany ideas how to get frequency scaling to work on  Core duo 2300 with generic kernel?12:30
sauvinIt doesn't move the text?12:30
dresdeni typed in nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and i dont know what to do next12:30
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LiberCogitoamorphous_: oh, wait.  same PC?12:30
dresdenOH IT DOES MOVE THE TEXT12:30
mojo_monkeyyour setup are you an ISP ??12:30
dresdenNEVERMIND12:31
dresdenil look for windows 2000 thanks12:31
amorphous_LiberCogito, yes12:31
sauvin.oO(new to "linux", my [BEEP] , I think dresden is new to COMPUTERS!)12:31
dresdenlol12:31
amorphous_that's why it's so confusing to me12:31
amorphous_:/12:31
LiberCogitoamorphous_: yeah, that really doesnt make sense.12:31
LiberCogitoamorphous_: create a new user, see if you have the same issue.12:31
mojo_monkeyamorphous_ how may servers r u running and how may clients12:31
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Badzohi dudes, i've just installed beryl, but now the cube has gone12:32
mojo_monkeyamorphous_ basically what is your problem12:32
dresdenwhat my problem was is i made the box bigger to see more of it, and that didnt work, i didnt know i had to use arrow keys12:32
amorphous_mojo_monkey, I am using an adsl connection with adsl (netgear) wireless router/modem. wireless users seem to have no probs.12:32
seanblah, chaod12:32
seanchaos**12:32
sauvindresden, in a terminal window, that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.12:32
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mojo_monkeyamorphous_ then whats the catch12:32
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sauvinI've been using terminals for so damned long I've forgotten what all the "gotchas" might be for people used to a GUI.12:33
dresdensauvin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33219/12:33
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amorphous_mojo_monkey, one machine - but the user accounts keep getting cut off from the internet. the admin account keeps it's connection12:33
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sauvinI can't see a damn thing wrong with that, dresden.12:33
dresdendamn12:33
mojo_monkeywow thats strange12:34
dresdenwhen i press ENTER on it when i boot up, it cant proceed because i get a blue screen that sais INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE12:34
sauvinSo, assumption next: your Windows boot loader is [HONK] , or at least all [CENSORED]  up.12:34
amorphous_LiberCogito, i have the same issue with all three users. I think at the same time, but it's hard to tell properly - it's intermittant.12:34
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sauvindresden, can you mount that partition?12:34
dresdenguess i could why?12:34
amorphous_<is instilled with confidence12:34
dresdeni can view it already in the GUI12:34
sauvinIn terminal, cd into /media and see if there's an hda1 directory.12:34
dresdeni can see all the files in it12:35
dresdenok12:35
sauvinYou can see all your Windows files?12:35
dresdenyes i can12:35
sauvinGrr.12:35
dresdendoes that mean some thing?\12:35
sauvinMmkay, now I'm lost.12:35
dresdenwhen i clcik computer i can choose my old windows volume and its got all my stuff in it12:35
sauvinWhat I know about MS operating systems is very old; it predates NT-class operating systems, so what I'm about to say might not be terribly applicable.12:35
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dresdenok12:36
LiberCogitoamorphous_: I'd nuke and remake the user profiles.  if you have no info to go on, its really the only option12:36
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hersheyi installed the desktop version but it gave me some errors at the end, is that normal?12:36
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sauvinThere's a 'boot loader' file that has to appear within the first umpteen sectors of the partition the OS is installed on; if it's not, the OS won't load.12:36
dresdeni typed cd /media and it didnt say anything, is that what i shoudl of done?12:36
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dresdenok sauvin what do i do12:36
Kaalseiv'e used fwcutter bcm43xx to install wireless network. but i get an error message ever though it's working. it says that it was an error with the treating of bcm43xx-fwcutter (error code 1) can anyone help?12:36
sauvinIf you can see all your Windows files, it doesn't matter HOW you see them, they're THERE.12:36
dresdenyeah they are12:36
dresdeni just cant boot lol12:36
amorphous_LiberCogito, you mean to completely renew the whole user profiles?12:36
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dresdeni want to use windows to play video games when i have free time12:37
seanlol, dresden did you google the INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE issue?12:37
seani found lots on how to fix it12:37
LiberCogito amorphous_Yep12:37
sauvinThat's what i'm trying to explain. I don't remember the name of the boot loader file(s); I think they'12:37
dresdenyes but i got a lot of stuff not about linux12:37
seanit MIGHT not be linux12:37
sauvinthey're going to have to be re-arranged.12:37
seanjust try the stuff they have12:37
dresdeni even typed in linux and that12:37
LiberCogitoNTLOADER12:37
spectre__can you tell me if there is an utility to resize partition under ubuntu ? thanks12:37
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seanspectre, gparted is good for resizing12:37
dresdenok sean il try that if sauvin cant help but sauvin is really smart12:37
deathbloomsopen a terminal and cd into that screenlets-0.0.8 directory. Once in it run this command:?12:37
spectre__thanks sean12:37
LiberCogitosauvin: NTLOADER, unless its vista or below 2k pro12:37
seannp guys12:37
sauvinLiberCogito, that sounds familiar. dresden, can you see NTLOADER on your Windows partition's root directory?12:37
dresdenok let me look 1 second12:38
deathbloomsneed help trying to install screenlets?12:38
faileaserm12:38
dresdenno i have a ntldr12:38
faileasits NTLDR12:38
sauvinActually, I think NTLOADER was also true of NT 3.5...12:38
dresden"ntldr"12:38
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seandeathblooms, ubuntuguide12:38
dresdenits lowercase "ntldr" sauvin12:38
LiberCogitomeh, my bad.12:38
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LiberCogitoi was close.12:38
seanlol12:38
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seanilu liber <312:38
hersheyok it is starting up fine, thats good12:39
amorphous_LiberCogito, pants! thanks though. At least it's not just me that can't understand it...12:39
sauvinntldr and ntdetect.com look suspicious...12:39
seansuspicious how?12:39
dresdenhuh?12:39
LiberCogitoamorphous_: 've forgotten muchof what I used to know of windows.12:39
seanme too liber12:39
seanme too12:39
Kaalseiv'e used fwcutter bcm43xx to install wireless network. but i get an error message ever though it's working. it says that it was an error with the treating of bcm43xx-fwcutter (error code 1) can anyone help?12:39
sauvinDo you suppose those files, or files referenced BY them, contain information about the disk geometry and/or topology on which they were INSTALLED?12:39
LiberCogitoamorphous_: happily, I might add.12:39
PaulEUhello!12:39
seanhey paul12:39
amorphous_LiberCogito, I don't do windows12:39
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dresdensauvin are you asking me12:39
deathbloomssean, i have read the guide12:39
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dresdensauvin you should know im not as smart as you are about these things12:40
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PaulEUWhat's difference between packages: mozilla-thunderbird-locale-pl and thunderbird-locale-pl ?12:40
deathbloomssean, like a 100 times12:40
sncan any 1 help i am using gnomebaker  to burn cds  but it does not burn i get a error saying it did not burn12:40
seansauvin, those files are responsible for loading the nt kernel12:40
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LiberCogitoamorphous_: I've barely been using linux for a year.  Sean bullied me into it.12:40
sauvindresden, I am obviously not as smart as you think I am.12:40
seanlol, ok deathblooms, how can i help?12:40
PaulEUits strange :/ I don't know which can I select12:40
dresdenlol sauvin is pretty smart12:40
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seanPaul,12:40
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dresdensmart people never say they are smart only dumb ones do!!12:40
seanone is a transition package12:40
seanit will automatically install the other, no worries12:40
deathbloomssean, in the tutorial it shows a easy way to install it http://thelinuxmovement.blogspot.com/2007/07/install-screenlets-008.html12:40
LiberCogitoi r teh smartz.12:41
amorphous_LiberCogito, u seem pretty good at it though. I been using linux for years, but still rank amature12:41
sauvinheh, if I were so damn smart, you'd be back in Windows already.12:41
deathbloomssean, but i dont understand the open a terminal and cd into that screenlets-0.0.8 directory. Once in it run this command:12:41
amorphous_< defines the word 'user'12:41
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dresdensauvin i would bet from my very very very limited knowledge, that my windows was too old and unpopular and linux, when it made my boot device, made it for XP or something and not 2000 pro12:41
LiberCogitoamorphous_: I can fix things, but often have no idea HOW I fixed them, or why it worked.  :)12:41
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dresdenbut thats my idea12:41
sncan any 1 help plz12:41
icanichow to install beryl?12:41
seandeathblooms, which part don't you get, opening a term or the cd to dir12:41
dresdeni mean my boot menu sorry12:41
sauvindresden, linux grub can boot DOS partitions.12:41
sauvinOLD ones.12:41
LiberCogitoamorphous_: My real super power is l337 google skills :)12:41
dresdenwell maybe im wrong hehehe12:42
dgjones!beryl | icanic12:42
ubotuicanic: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects12:42
Aye|whats the command to create a file from terminal?12:42
deathbloomssean, yes i know the terminal but the cd part?12:42
seansn, what type of error?12:42
dresdeni love beryl!!!12:42
PaulEUicanic: use compiz default in system12:42
icanic!beryl12:42
sauvinI'm too tired to make sense out of all this right now :(12:42
dresdenim going to use linux for every thing, i just want to load win2kpro for games12:42
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dresdenand i have a allready updated configured win2kpro im trying to boot12:42
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Aye|whats the command to create a file from the terminal?12:42
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sauvinBelieve me, I understand that.12:42
dresdenthanks12:43
seandeathblooms, cd to probably ~/ or ~/Desktop12:43
sauvinTell me, in your GUI address bar, what does it give for file location when you see ntldr?12:43
Allooshhi all, where is wine folder? just installed some programs, but cant find the folder12:43
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seanthat should hold the file you need12:43
dresdenok let me look sauvin 1 second12:43
seanalloosh it's ~/.wine12:43
LiberCogitoAye|: http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html12:43
deathbloomssean, the folder is on my desktop12:43
Aye|ty12:43
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dresdensauvin it sais "/media/hda1"12:43
snok mate wait a min12:43
deathbloomssean, so im not shure what command i use in terminal12:43
Allooshsean, where?12:43
dresdenbut its actually my C drive12:43
mojo_monkeyi upgraded my ubuntu from breezy to dapper to edgy and it wiped out my openoffice suite12:43
seancd ~/Desktop12:43
seanalloosh, type ~/.wine in the address bar of nautilus12:44
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hersheywell good nite peeps12:44
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dresdengoodnght hershey12:44
amorphous_LiberCogito, Aahhh.. a skill indeed...12:44
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deathbloomssean, cd ~/Desktop sudo python setup.py install12:44
deathbloomssean, like that12:44
sauvin/dev/hda1, C drive, what the hell, it's all the same.12:44
mojo_monkeyi cant seem to install another suite of openoffice cause it keeps giving me errors12:44
Aye|urr12:45
dresdenok12:45
Aye|LiberCogito, , doesnt tell me how to make a file12:45
sauvinI can't see why it's not loading!12:45
seaner, no, try cd ~/Desktop/screenlets[tab]  (that's the tab key)12:45
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dresdenme neither sauvin !!12:45
LiberCogitoamorphous_: Harnessing google can save you monies.  I found all my college textbooks as ebooks free12:45
dresdencogito that is such an awesome idea im going to try that from now on12:45
sauvinI have a really stupid question to ask... is your windows partition marked ACTIVE in the partition record?12:45
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dresdenwhere can i find the partition record12:45
dresdensauvin12:45
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sauvinMoment...12:46
dresdenok12:46
seanaye, what file are you trying to make?12:46
LiberCogitoAye|:12:46
mojo_monkeycan 2 Linux distributions coexist on one machine i.e on different partitions12:46
seandeathblooms type in cd "~/Desktop/screenlets[tab] " (that's the tab key)12:46
Aye|Yes?12:46
sauvindresden, do a sudo gparted12:46
sauvinCHANGE NOTHING.12:46
dresdenok12:46
Aye|LiberCogito, ?12:47
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yeniklasor,12:47
yeniklasor12:47
seanAye|, what file are you trying to make12:47
dresdennow what dresden12:47
dresdeni mean sauvin !!12:47
deathbloomssean, Desktop/screenlets-0.0.9$ sudo python setup.py install12:47
Aye|a file in the etc folder12:47
Aye|but i cant create it with a text editor12:47
deathbloomssean, no such file dir12:47
Aye|cause im not root12:47
Boobekhi12:47
dgjonesmojo_monkey, yes, you can have as many distro's on a computer as you've got disk space for12:47
sauvinLook at your /dev/hda1 line, to the right, under the 'flags' column. is it marked "boot"?12:47
Aye|so i wanted to use sudo from the command line12:47
dresdenok let me look sauvin12:47
seancd ~/Desktop/screenlets[tab] [enter] 12:47
dresdenyes it sais "boot" sauvin12:47
sauvin@#$!@%#@12:47
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dresdenits the only one that says "boot"12:47
dresdenmy linux ones dont even say it12:48
seanAye|, try sudo gedit /etc/filetocreate12:48
sauvinSame here. grub doesn't care.12:48
dresdenok12:48
Aye|okay12:48
deathbloomssean, ok i got this deathblooms237@deathblooms237:~/Desktop/screenlets-0.0.9$12:48
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seanok, now run your command12:48
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sauvinOK, quit gparted. SAVE NO CHANGES.12:48
seandeathblooms, now run the command you need to run12:48
dresdenok12:48
Aye|sean,  ty12:48
cainus_hey all... I just installed kubuntu and I seem to be having keyboard troubles... I keep getting `` instead of forward slashes, etc... anyone know the remedy?12:48
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seanAye|, np12:48
sauvinI'm mystified.12:48
AboSamoor_1can anyone help me in reconfiguring my ethernet and /etc/network/intefaces12:48
mojo_monkeyi had a previous installation of oracle enterprise Linux on one partition  then i installed ubuntu on the other but know i cant access the oracle distro12:48
AboSamoor_1?12:48
seancainus_, try to change your keyboard layout in settings12:49
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sauvindresden, would it be an option to wipe the HD clean, install Windows, get it running and bootable and then re-install ubuntu?12:49
sauvinI can't figure out what's going on :(12:49
seanAboSamoor_1, just clear it out, and open the network settings dialog12:49
deathbloomssean, which is sudo python setup.py install. and when i do that it says no such file or direc12:49
seanit will autoconfig12:49
Kaslegardive got a problem. every time i try to install ANYTHING a error message occupears. it says that it was an error threating bcm43xx-fwcutter error code (1). can anyone help?12:49
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dresdensauvin this is a fresh copy of ubuntu, what you describe is like...what i just did a few days ago12:49
seandeathblooms, hm, h.o. a sec?12:49
deathbloomssean,k12:50
mojo_monkeyAboSamoor_1 what happend to your net conf12:50
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sauvinWhen you restore your windows from the image, does it boot?12:50
dresdeni installed windows, than ubuntu, than windows wont boot, so i installed windows again, still wont boot...12:50
dresdenno12:50
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dresdenif i do what you say i will get the same problem i think12:50
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sauvinNo, I mean, if you wipe the drive clean and then re-install windows, does it boot?12:50
cainus_sean: it set to US English, generic 104-key though12:50
AboSamoor_1sean where is the  network settings dialog ? is there any way to do that by terminal ?12:50
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dresdensauvin the whole drive??/12:50
sauvinyup.12:50
dresdenbut i cant because12:50
dresdenthis OS is on it12:50
mojo_monkeydgjones i had a previous installation of oracle enterprise Linux on one partition  then i installed ubuntu on the other but know i cant access the oracle distro12:51
dresdenand yes it would work12:51
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dresdeni have in the past, before using linux, wiped the drive clean when i install my backup image and that works FINE12:51
seanAboSamoor_1, you can open the network settings from [gnome menu] ->[settings] ->[admin.] ->[network] 12:51
dresdenbut now that i have linux my HDD is split in half12:51
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sauvinThe backup image, does it assume you have the entire drive devoted to it?12:51
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dresdenyes but im using norton ghost and its designed to let me install to a partition because my image is small12:51
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sauvinI'm out of ideas.12:52
dresdenbut that could be the problem i guess because this is the first time ive installed to a smalelr partition12:52
K-4Uhow do i get more desktops?12:52
dgjonesmojo_monkey, i'm not sure how to help, but do you mean you can't boot the oracle installation, or just that the oracle drives aren't being mounted so you can browse to them?12:52
dresdennorton ghost sais i can do that but maybe they lie to me12:52
sauvinthat's what I'm thinking but can't be sure.12:52
AboSamoor_1sean , i can't see that. i make an error by installing xubuntu-system-tools12:52
dresdeni KNOW if i wiped the whole HDD my windows will work, but then i wont have linux lol12:52
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DBlueIs there a way to make grub who comes with Ubuntu, to look like grub on Suse 8.01, with background and white highlight?12:52
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seanah, are you using gnome or xfce?12:52
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seanAboSamoor_1, are you using gnome or xfce?12:52
dresdensauvin if i wiped my HDD clean windows will work, but then i wont have ubuntu12:52
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AboSamoor_1sean, gnome12:53
neumindhello, who can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?12:53
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seanit SHOULD still be there =\12:53
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sauvinyes, but you could then use partition magic or something to shrink the windows partition, get THAT working, make a NEW IMAGE and then install linux.12:53
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cainus_sean: heh that solved it anyway... weird.... alright thanks :)12:53
LiberCogitodresden: So you're trying to load windows onto a drive that windows thinks is size X, but is actually size Y and you're suprised that this is an issue?  Erm... duh?12:53
dresdenI DID THAT SAUVIN THATS HOW IM HERE LOL12:53
seannp cainus_12:53
sauvinGrah.12:53
dresdenNOOO you all misunderstand...12:53
mojo_monkeydgjones the oracle will start booting but it keeps giving error messages about "touch" cant get a lock or something12:53
dresdencogito that is right BUT12:53
K-4Uhow do i get more desktops? i now only have 2...12:53
dresdenit didnt work before i loaded the clone12:53
neumindwho can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?12:53
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dresdeni had windows OK, then i shrunk NTFS and loaded linux on it, and from the linxu boot men i cannot load windows again...i thought that was normal12:54
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mojo_monkeydgjones ill have to reboot to get you the exact boot message12:54
LiberCogitodresden: how the hell could loading the clone not work before you loaded the clone?12:54
dresdeni figured every thing i did so far was normal12:54
dresdennoo what i mean is i only recently tried the clone12:54
seandresden, you do know ntfs support on linux is still somewhat, er "trivial" to say the least12:54
DBlueK-4U, you right click on desktops, prefferences and write 412:54
sauvinI can't see why it would matter, but I gave up trying to figure out MS crap when I was first confronted with bazillions of config files under Windows 9x and decided that my days for being a computer expert were DONE.12:54
dresdeni had a WORKING windows, installed linux, it wouldnt work, so i loaded the clone, and the clone doesnt work either12:54
LiberCogitodresden: Did you defrag windows a bajillion times first?12:54
K-4Uty dblue!12:54
dresdennoo sean i srunk NTFS so i can make a linux partition12:54
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DBluewhat is ty12:55
dresdenno i didnt cogito, i used paragon partition its smart12:55
K-4Udblue: Thank You;)12:55
seanyes, and dresden, what did u use to resize?12:55
dresdenparagon partition12:55
sauvinThere's a "smart program" for windows?12:55
dresdenbut my windows should be defragged12:55
dresdenyea paragon is good12:55
seanit's smart, but it probably left files on the old part of the partion dresden12:55
seanlol12:55
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LiberCogitodresden: what does a partitiion program being smart have to do with defragging?12:55
DBlueok, i don't know shortcuts, cause i don't chat a lot12:55
seanthat's why you need to defrag like 36 times12:55
dresdenits a good program12:55
LiberCogitodresden: You didn't defrag before attempting to dual boot.  Thats a no no.12:55
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LiberCogitodresden: Thats why it didn't work.12:55
dresdenis that my problem?12:56
LiberCogitodresden: period.12:56
LiberCogitodresden: yep.12:56
dresdenwell my clone is of course defragged12:56
tsurcwhats the best channel to ask about xen and drbd?12:56
sauvinThat's what I'm thinking.12:56
dresdenwhy wont my clone work?12:56
LiberCogitodresden: WHAT?!?12:56
dresdenneither my windows or my clone wont work12:56
seanlmao12:56
seanyou should hear the laugther dresden12:56
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dresdeni had a working windows, installed linux, didnt work (you say because i didnt defrag a bunch first)12:56
sean[no offense] 12:56
dresdenso i load a clone and it wont work either!! same error12:56
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dresdeni use norton ghost to load the clone to a partition like it sais i can12:56
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dresdenim so confused, is there no fix???12:56
sauvinYou're making me believe I got shit lucky when I shrank my NTFS partition before installing linux.12:57
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seandresden, did u 0-1-0 ur drive?12:57
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LiberCogitodresden: .... the HARD DRIVE, the PHYSICAL DISK needs to be defragged.12:57
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dresdenwhat is 0-1-0 mean12:57
LiberCogitodresden: do you understand what a defrag is?12:57
dresdeni know what windows defragmentor does libercogito12:57
seansauvin, you might have, but resizing, usually isn't an issue, unless you have too much info on the drive =[12:57
LiberCogitodresden: Not if you t12:57
LiberCogitodresden: think that your12:57
dresdenhuh?12:57
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LiberCogitodresden: clone will defrag the HD.12:57
sauvinsean, this is NTFS we're talking about. It was an "issue" five minutes before I bought the freaking thing.12:58
dresdenwell the clone only saves the stuff that fits on a CD...i cant fit 100+ GB on a CD12:58
dgjonesdresden, windows defrag isn't that good, it doesn't consolidate free space so you still have bits of files all over the drive12:58
seanROFL, sauvin, ilu12:58
Allooshguys, I have a network here, ubuntu and xp, both computer are connected to the net, the internet goes from ubuntu to a router and then to the xp, I can see the ubuntu(samba) in the xp network places, but cant see the xp in the ubuntu. its not in the network. any idea?12:58
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seandresden, try partimage next time12:58
dresdenthe norton ghost saves all the real data and ignores empty space12:58
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LiberCogitodresden: a defrag removes file fragments.  on the hard drive.  what does your12:58
dresdenwhat is partimage?12:58
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LiberCogitodresden: cd have to do with the hard drive?12:58
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LiberCogitodresden: nothing.12:58
dresdennooooooooo12:59
dresdenthe CD saved all the files not the empty space12:59
seani needa smoke12:59
seanbrb guys =[12:59
LiberCogitodresden: do you12:59
dresdeni cant fit 100+ GB on a CD so its irrelevent12:59
dresdenit only saves real files im confused12:59
seanliber your coming w, me or i'll drag you outta here12:59
LiberCogitodresden: not understand that installing OVER something desont mean getting rid of fragments?12:59
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LiberCogitodresden: IF you erase a chalkboard, you k12:59
DBlueIs there a rescue mode on the Feisty Fawn live cd?12:59
dresdenhuh12:59
LiberCogitodresden: know how you can still see the writing sorta?12:59
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seanDBlue, yes there is01:00
sean=] 01:00
Allooshlooks like no one saw my post here you go again01:00
DBlueAnd01:00
dresdenyes but electronics arent lke that right??01:00
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dresdeni have a fully working backed up version of windows that doesnt boot01:00
LiberCogitodresden: thats what defrags get rid of.  writing over the image doesnt make it not there, it just writes over it.01:00
seanAlloosh, what is the question?01:00
DBlueAnd what the rescue do01:00
Allooshguys, I have a network here, ubuntu and xp, both computer are connected to the net, the internet goes from ubuntu to a router and then to the xp, I can see the ubuntu(samba) in the xp network places, but cant see the xp in the ubuntu. its not in the network. any idea?01:00
LiberCogitodresden: that is exactly how magnetic storage works.01:00
LiberCogitodresden: its simplified to the extreme, but its the same concept.01:00
seanAlloosh, be patient and someone will assist asap01:00
dresdenok cogito i understand that that may be why my windows did not work after i installed linux, but that does NOT explain why my backup doesnt work either01:00
sauvinElectronics, no, but your hard drive is basically rusted iron dust glued to an aluminum plate. It can retain magnetic charges even across rewrites.01:00
LiberCogitodresden: and I have to go kill myself a little now.  brb.01:01
AyeDoes anyone know how to get ubuntu to BOOT with my nvidia geforce 6200, because it will only boot with my onboard card, but once X is loaded it will use my PCI graphics card. If i dont have my onboard as my first graphics card (boot card) it will hang on boot.01:01
AllooshSean; I am :)01:01
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klerik_ktulxu01:01
dresdenlibercogito01:01
LiberCogitodresden: because your HD is full of fragmented crap and needs to be deeply reformated.01:01
seanDBlue, it allows you to fix mistaks using root in the command line01:01
dresdenthat doesnt explain why my backup doesnt work01:01
dresdenhuhh??01:01
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seankk brb guys liber too01:01
DBlueAye, try to disable it in bios01:01
LiberCogitoyes it does!01:01
seanstep away liber01:01
seannow01:01
klerik_.. 01:01
sauvinThe backup might not work if it references sectors on the hard drive that no longer belong to the partition you're restoring it to.01:01
AyeDisable my onboard?01:01
dresdenok so if i reformat that space OVER AND OVER it will work?01:01
seanjust do it LiberCogito!01:01
DBlueAye, yes01:01
LiberCogitodresden: does painting a totalled car make the car any less totalled?01:01
dresdensauvin that makes sense to me01:01
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AyeDBlue, Thats the problem, when i disable my onboard card it hangs on boot01:01
dresdenbut my backup isnt totalled...01:01
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DBlueShame01:02
dresdenmy backup is a mint car01:02
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dresdenit should just copy my mint car01:02
DBlueAye, is the new car ok?01:02
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Aye..?01:02
dresdensauvin you recommend i reformat my NTFS again?01:02
DBlueAye, I'm functional?01:02
dresdenbut wait, are you saying i will have to dedicate the whole drive if i want to use my backed up clone?01:02
mojo_monkeyhow do i compile a java servlet on linux01:02
sauvinyour backup is a mint Lincoln now being told to park itself in a parking slot sized for a Cooper.01:02
DBlueAye, ups sorry01:02
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AyeDBlue, lawl01:02
dresdeni never used more than 20 GB on my windows at a time when i had it, and its current space is 65 GB01:03
DBlueAye, I meant is it functional on other mainboard01:03
dresdenso how can it try to be writing to things 65+01:03
AyeWhat do you mean01:03
dresdenit should still be trying to load the backup to the center of the HDD physically01:03
dresdenyou know the rings and whatnot?01:03
AyeUbuntu only boots if my onboard card isnt disabled01:03
sauvinThis is what we're thinking, anyway. By all the rules I undersand, it SHOULD be @!#$@#$ working. All the right links are there. There's something wrong with the way Windows believes it occupies its share of the hard drive. That's the only thing I can figure.01:03
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dresdenok sauvin that makes sense01:03
dresdenbut like i said i never ever used up to 65 GB at a time, and the space of my NTFS partition for windows is shrunk to 6501:04
sauvinYes, I know about "rings" and suchlike. I used to be a disk drive hacker for the Commodore :D01:04
dresdentherefore it cannot be writing to something 65+ right?01:04
dresdenwow01:04
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dresdensauvin what do you recommend i do!!!!!!!01:04
dresdeni'd like my backup to work01:04
dresdenbut neither my current windows worked or my backup01:05
dresdenif you were me what would you do next01:05
DBlueAye, open the computer case, and look in the mainboard, if there is a jumper for the internal video card, and switch is off, or read mainboards manual01:05
sauvinYou might never have used more than 20 gigs at any given time, but if your total cumulative storage needs exceeded 65 gigs, and NTFS is as retarded as I think it might be, you DO NOT know where files would have wound up physically.01:05
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dresdenyeah thats what i was thinking is possible sauvin01:05
dresdenbut i was hoping it would be smart01:05
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DBlueAye, but do it with you computer off, and the power cable detached01:06
sauvinYou're expecting anything from Redmond to be smart? Heh.01:06
sauvinWhat I'd try, on a weekend when I have nothing better to do, is to wipe the whole hard drive.01:06
AyeAlright i will try that01:06
sauvinReinstall Windows on the entire drive. Get it working nice.01:06
dresdensauvin if i wiped the WHOLE drive it WILL work01:06
Ayegonna just fix some other drivers first01:06
dresdenim trying to make ubuntu work with it as well01:06
dresdenok then what01:06
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sauvinDefrag the living daylights out of it.01:06
dresdenhahahaha01:06
dresdenthats sad01:06
sauvinShrink its partition.01:06
sauvinmake sure it STILL works.01:06
dresdendefragmenter over and over?01:06
amorphous_I have seen before a tail command switch that prints the lines as they appear (are they from dmesg?) does anyone know what this comand is?01:06
sauvinThen try installing linux.01:07
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dresdensauvin i think i am just going to buy another HDD and put linux on it, which is really upsetting me, because i dont want my OS's to have all this extra space01:07
sauvinIF IT WORKS, that's when you want to make a new image of your Windows partition.01:07
dresdenok01:07
dresdenim just going to buy another HDD01:07
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dresdenthanks for helping me realise my situtation is hopeless01:07
sauvinOh, well, believe me, it's nothing to let Windows eat a monster hard drive. Windows itself IS a monster.01:07
dresdenhahah01:08
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dresdenhmm what should i put linux on01:08
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sauvinAs for having multiple hard drives, if you have a tower and the bay space, well... O:)01:08
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dresdensauvin i actually have 3 HDD and 1 CDROM01:08
sauvinThere was a time I had two versions of Windows, two versions of linux and a version of freebsd all on the same computerl.01:08
dresdenbut 2 HDD are full of stuff, i wanted to put my OS's split on 1 HDD01:08
jonathan_somebody can help me to open files office 2007???01:09
DoumyemrusTRK' Z!01:09
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sauvinOffice 2007!? Eeek!01:09
dresdenim not even going to try to have a dual boot from 1 HDD if its so hard01:09
amorphous_or is it a dmesg command? either way I cant find it, so can anyone suggest how I can see kernel messages as they happen?01:09
DBlue<jonathan_> use openoffice01:09
jonathan_I need to open office 2007 docx....01:09
dresdensauvin how much space does ubuntu take up (i actually use the Linux Mint version of Ubuntu)01:09
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jonathan_already01:09
sauvinIt shouldn't be. I have XP and two different distros of linux on my laptop.01:09
jonathan_it can't01:09
DBlueIs cheaper, and betther01:09
neumindwho can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?01:09
neumindwho can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?01:09
sauvinI gave ubuntu 12 gigs.01:09
dresdenwell sauvin i did EXACTLY what you told me to do MINUS defragmentation01:09
dresdenand it wont work, so i guess not defragging is my prob?01:10
jonathan_they read it as a zip01:10
sauvinThat's what I THINK. I can't guarantee it.01:10
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dresdenok should i just load my backup windows on the WHOLE drive, defrag the HELL out of it, and then give my ubuntu like 12 gigs??01:10
LiberCogitodresden: yes!01:10
dresdenthanks LiberCogito lolol01:11
LiberCogitodresden: your backup isn't the car.  your harddrive is the car.01:11
dresdenhahah this was a funny experience01:11
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dresdenman i HATE windows01:11
sauvinI gave ubuntu 12 gigs because that's the free partition I had. If I'd had my druthers, I'd have given it more.01:11
mattycozeanyone tried the new ubuntu yet?01:11
jonathan_help please01:11
LiberCogitodresden: your backup is the paint job.  you need to fix the care before the paintjob.01:11
dresdenwell i dont want my OS to have a lot because i want to be able to share space with my windows OS some how01:11
DBlue<jonathan_> try this http://blog.zamzar.com/2007/04/10/convert-docx-files-to-doc-pdf-odt-and-txt/01:11
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dresdencan Linux write data on my Windows partition good???01:11
dresden(as good as windows?)01:11
DBlue<jonathan_> They convert online01:11
jonathan_ok01:12
sauvinI wouldn't want to bet on it.01:12
jonathan_thx01:12
LiberCogitodresden: yes01:12
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DBlueThey say that01:12
dresdensauvin thinks no and libercogito things yes??01:12
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sauvinWhat a lot of people do is create a largish FAT drive. Windows and Linux can both read and write such a partition.01:12
neumindwho can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?01:12
jonathan_Conversions wont work for .docx files created with pre-release versions of MS Word 2007.01:12
wlfzyq01:12
dresdensauvin if i put stuff on FAT it will rename everything to short names like THIS right?01:12
faileasnope01:12
PriceChild!cn | wlfzyq01:12
ubotuwlfzyq: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk01:12
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faileasFAT after win95 supports LFN01:13
wlfzyqsorry! i first01:13
dresdenwhats LFN/01:13
dresdenoh long file names01:13
dresden+01:13
sauvinI think people wanting to access office 2007 files may have to wait a while for the opensource folks to catch up :(01:13
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dresden+01:13
dresdensorry dropped my mouse on my keyboard twice hitting the + key hehe01:13
DBlue<jonathan_> Then open the file in somewhere where therei stupid office 2007, and saved as doc01:13
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Mr_NZI have just installed ubuntu-mythtv-frontend but it comes up on boot and I don't want it to01:13
Mr_NZhow do i stop it01:13
sauvinThe one thing I do NOT appreciate about FAT is that it doesn't support permissions or ownership.01:13
wlfzyq01:13
dresdensauvin have you heard of Linux Mint and do you like it?01:13
wlfzyq01:13
wlfzyq01:13
dresdenits what i use, they say its just Ubuntu with more stuff put in01:13
sauvinI have no idea what Mint might be.01:13
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LiberCogitosauvin: its just ubuntu with a green theme.01:14
dresdentype it in google is Ubuntu that can play MP3s and stuff right off01:14
seanew @ mint01:14
dresdenits supposed to be the same thing with extra stuff01:14
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jonathan_anybody use ubuntu 7.10?01:14
dresdenwhen i type linux in google its like the first thing that comes up on certain searches01:14
LiberCogitodresden: that extra stuff takes 7 minutes to setup, tops.01:14
neumindwho can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?!01:14
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sauvinOh, if you give me a computer with a plain vanilla linux and a working Internet connexion, I'll have a linux loaded with 'features' inside of a week.01:14
sean*cough* same thing - just more stuff to screw up01:14
dresdenheheh true01:14
sauvinSheah, my ubuntu plays just about anything.01:15
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dresdeni love how ubuntu can use divx or whatever it is01:15
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dresdeni never ever had to download a codec01:15
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dresdenis ubuntu packed with codecs and things?01:15
LiberCogitodresden: my ubuntu can install rpms its so hot.01:15
borzunhello01:15
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sauvinI can't remember if I had to download anything to get divx to play; I DO know I had to install libdvcss to play my DVD movies. Big deal.01:15
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dresdenwow arent rpms for different distros?01:15
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LiberCogitodresden: nope.01:15
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PriceChilddresden, no, but they're easily installed with the easy codec instillation01:15
dresdenhow do i get teh easy codec installation01:16
borzunhttp://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7199/molettedo3.jpg how to do it as on windows?01:16
bullgard4Can phpMyAdmin display the content of a data field of 'memo' type similar to the Microsoft Access or OO.o Base forms?01:16
perpetualQuestion: How do I make gnome-screensaver span two monitors, instead of displaying two separate screensavers on each monitor? I use nvidia drivers with twinview.01:16
LiberCogitodresden: yep.  redhat package manager.01:16
dresdenthats cool01:16
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seanlol @ codec01:16
larson9999dresden, depending on file you have to install codecs.  non free stuff isn't installed by default01:16
dresdeni dont know hwy people use other distros now that ubuntu is out01:16
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perpetualI cannot find it in the fora01:16
seandresden, linux is all about freedom01:16
spectre__hi to all,I need to login in ubuntu as root.where can I do it ? If I try to do in terminal or in the opening graphic login I can't do that.thanks to all01:16
seandiff dists for diff needs01:16
DBluegksudo01:17
perpetualspectre__, sudo su -01:17
dresdenok so LiberCogito or Sauvin , do you guys think I can move all my linux data (downloads and such) to an NTFS USB HDD without problems???01:17
DBlueI want too to log on as root, but the account is disabled in Ubuntu01:17
perpetualDBlue, sudo su -01:17
LiberCogitodresden: fat32 would be better.01:17
dresdenwhy is fat32 better?01:17
perpetualDBlue, then do passwd01:17
savaddaHi, im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop, it seems to load the initial screen and i click start install, it loads loads a variety of drivers, it finally loads to a screen with ubuntu written in the centre, where it seems to hang i think, the hard drive light goes crazy, but nothing happens!01:17
DBlueAN01:18
spectre__thanks perpetual01:18
DBlued01:18
LiberCogitodresden: it works out of the box.01:18
howlingmadhowiedresden: possibly, but i wouldn't delete the originals afterwards01:18
dresdenok01:18
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LiberCogito*cries* google people, google.01:18
Mr_NZ?01:18
sauvindresden, FAT32 has larger capacity.01:18
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dresdeni have a problem because i have loads of data on my USB HDD i created with WIndows 2000, and that HDD uses NTFS...and i want to delete this HDD and keep my data01:18
LiberCogitosean: sudo pass me the pretzels.01:18
neumindhow Be sure your terminal program allows    the handling of curses ?01:18
dresdenwhats the advantage of NTFS if its so bad??01:18
borzunhttp://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7199/molettedo3.jpg how to do it as on windows?01:18
perpetualDBlue, to log in as root in login screen, change AllowRoot=false to true in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf01:18
seanbeth sudo no01:19
seanlol01:19
LiberCogitocommand not found01:19
seanor just go to the login screen prefs01:19
howlingmadhowiedresden: ntfs supports access rights. fat doesn't01:19
seanlol01:19
dresdenoh01:19
dresdenis that hte only difference??01:19
dresdenthats stupid01:19
seanmore security01:19
seanit's not stupid01:19
DBlueOh thanks, what relief, do you know how many times i have written my 15 char password01:19
howlingmadhowiedresden: it's the only important one i can think of at the moment01:19
seanwiki it dresden01:19
sauvinThe advantage of NTFS is that it's what Windows uses. In fact, I'm not aware that Windows can use anything ELSE (except maybe FAT32 - anybody know of XP or higher actually having this ability?)01:19
dresdeni never used access writes before in my decade of windows using01:19
faileasyup01:20
sauvinNTFS sits atop a FAT core?01:20
LiberCogitosauvin: just fat and ntfs01:20
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faileasmore accurately01:20
howlingmadhowiesauvin: xp can use fat32, but it's artificially limited to some small size01:20
dresdenso are you guys saying i should NOT have formatted my removable USB HDD for NTFS?? that tehy would be compatible with windows using FAT32??01:20
spectre__thanks perpetual ,all works right01:20
spectre__bye01:20
neumindhow Be sure your terminal program allows    the handling of curses ?01:20
faileaswindows BOOTS NTFS and fat. windows can read any thing01:20
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EJ\\'elcome ack Jesus01:20
perpetualDBlue, of course, using gnome as root, you can destroy your system with one bad mouse move in nautilus. And don't use the browser.01:20
LiberCogitofaileas: what are you smoking?01:20
faileashowlingmadhowie: its ability to format NOT read fat drives is limited, to be more presise ;)01:20
seanwindows CAN'T read anything faileas01:20
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LiberCogitofaileas: windows has NO clue what anything but fat32 and ntfs are.01:21
sauvinfaileas, you're saying that it'd be possible to (for example) format a partition ext2, install Windows on it and expect it to run?01:21
howlingmadhowiedresden: you can install drivers so that windows can read any open file system format, as far as i know01:21
faileassean: mine reads EXT3. swap, etc. windows has a load of thired party file systems01:21
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dresdencool01:21
malgarhello, i have python 2.5 but i don't find OpenGL bindings in my repositories (ubuntu feisty and gutsy).. there are only those for 2.4. where to search?01:21
hansuit01:21
neumindi have a problem : *]  Creating Menu, please wait.01:21
neumindThis needs the ncurses library. If it is not available, menuconf wont work. If you are using curses, use make menuconfig-curses instead.01:21
neumindmake: *** [menuconfig]  Error 101:21
howlingmadhowiefaileas: okay :) i didn't know that :)01:21
Sitheis sean here?01:21
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seansithe, right here homie01:21
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faileassauvin: it can't BOOT from anything but NTFS and FAT. it can have third party FS installed as IFS, or have raw disk filters01:21
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DBlueperpetual,what other conf are there in Ubuntu, cause I'm using Ubuntu only 4 months, and SuSe 3 years01:21
seanand faileas put down the pipe, linux > fs support than windows otb01:21
Sithesean im getting the Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".01:21
Sithedisplay: :0.0  screen: 001:21
SitheOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org01:21
SitheOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect01:21
SitheOpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)01:21
Sithe stuff again01:22
howlingmadhowieneumind: why are you compiling libncurses?01:22
seanare you running the xgl server now Sithe01:22
sauvinThere's a BIG-ass difference between "having RW capability via IFS" and "running on".01:22
dresdensauvin, cogito, so because NTFS is a microsoft thing, is ubuntu just as good as windows at writing data onto a NTFS drive??? (i do NOT mean installing ubuntu to NTFS)01:22
Sitheidk how......01:22
perpetualDBlue, eh .. can you rephrase your question?01:22
faileassean: i didn't say it was 'better'. i said windows tan more than one system01:22
LiberCogitofaileas: So what you're saying is that you can get it to read other FS with unsupported software.  That sounds peachy.  Really.01:22
Sithe<------LINUX NOOB01:22
faileassauvin: IFS = FUSE ;)01:22
neumindthis is outo01:22
seanfaileas,  yes, but it doesn't do it nearly as well, or even half as safe ;)01:22
Sithesean how do I run the xgl serveR?01:22
sauvindresden, linux can read NTFS volumes reliably. I think the community at large is still deeply suspicious of WRITE capability.01:23
faileasnever had any data loss with it01:23
dresdenoh ok01:23
DBlueperpetual, i mean like for grub menu file i know this, what about nautilus conf, is there such thing?01:23
seanSithe, when you login, it has the session option, what is your default?01:23
faileasonly real issues is with ACLs and fuse has that too01:23
dresdensauvin how do i transfer data i create on linux, to my windows NTFS partition???01:23
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sauvindresden, I'd do that from Windows.01:23
Sithesession option? where?01:23
howlingmadhowiedresden: so it looks like, if you could use linux to create a large fat partition on the drive, this partition cold be written to and read by windows and linux (and also solaris, os x etc.)01:23
seanfaileas, least *nix has jfs'01:23
dresdenbut windows cant read my linux partition01:23
larson9999sauvin, i think that's old data.  for my money write has been stable for some time.  but what do i know?01:23
sauvinActually, what I'd do is copy all the files to a FAT32 partition.01:23
dresdenthats a good idea howlingmadhowie01:23
perpetualDBlue, well, if I do  find . -name "*.conf*" | wc , I get 249 249 615101:23
Sithesean i have know idea what your talking about01:24
faileasdresden: mine can01:24
dresdenshould i use FAT32 specifically?? is that hte best recommendation to transfer files between?01:24
dresdennice01:24
DBlueperpetual, and now the root account will look like, when i log in in it.01:24
seanurg... hm, Sithe, what exactly is happening?01:24
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faileasdresden, yes01:24
dresdenok01:24
emman101where can i download codeblocks IDE for C ubuntu?01:24
SitheXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".01:24
Sithedisplay: :0.0  screen: 001:24
SitheOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org01:24
SitheOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect01:24
SitheOpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)01:24
seanis it after reboot, when does it happen that you lose the fglrxinfo showing the ati?01:24
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sauvinlarson9999, I have no idea what you know. You may well know a crapload more than I do, because I'll be the first to admit I'm still playing catch-up from being out of the game for a few years.01:24
DBlueperpetual, cause in SuSe was red backgroung an warrning01:24
LiberCogitosauvin: you know what works even better? DVDs.  They dont have mount or boot issues.  and they're less complicated for our dear friend dresden01:24
seanoh, Sithe, check the xorg.conf again for me for the composite disabled01:24
Sithesean yeah it goes back to that everytime I reboot01:24
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howlingmadhowiedresden: you need fat32 if you want to create a partitions larger than <some small size you can look up on wikipedia>01:24
Sithesean ok01:25
dresdenlol libercogito01:25
seanlol01:25
dresdenhahaha ok01:25
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sauvinLiberCogito, I've heard that different DVD writers can do proprietary things such that what's written with one drive isn't necessarily readable by the other.01:25
larson9999sauvin, then again, who'd but important stuff on ntfs?  :)01:25
emman101anybody knows where can i download codeblocks IDE for C ubuntu?01:25
LiberCogitosauvin: erm.... no?01:25
seanwow...01:25
sauvinlarson9999, um, Windows wienies?01:25
seanomg01:25
seanjust wow01:25
savaddaHi, im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop, it seems to load the initial screen and i click start install, it loads loads a variety of drivers, it finally loads to a screen with ubuntu written in the centre, where it seems to hang i think, the hard drive light goes crazy, but nothing happens!01:26
Sithesean: its at 001:26
sauvinemman101, load up the Synaptics Package Manager and look around.01:26
seanset it to disabled Sithe01:26
perpetualDBlue, you make contorted sentences, and incomplete too. I have trouble understanding you01:26
seannot 001:26
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seanthen restart x and try again for me plz01:26
spectre__dear man,I'm logged in a terminal window as root,but if I try to run gparted from it i get an error,and I'f I try to run it from gnome it works but I can't do resize or others operation,can you help me ? thanks01:26
howlingmadhowiedresden: i think, most transferal from ntfs to ext3 and vice versa happens through a samba server01:26
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Sithesean: How do I do that. It says: Section "Extensions"01:26
SitheOption    "Composite" "0"    right now01:26
dresdeni have no idea what that means lol01:26
dresdeni dont even know what samba is01:26
seanchange the 0 to disabled01:26
sauvinperpetual, not everybody that into the channel who might come are in countries wherein English spoken or taught even born are.01:27
Sithedresden: samba is a character in the lion king01:27
dresdenhahahaha01:27
dresdenhahaha01:27
seanor copy and paste it to a new line directly below it, and set it to disabled, so you'd have one w. 0 and one reading disabled01:27
seanlmao01:27
dresdenthat perfeclty fits, the lion king01:27
LiberCogitosean: I have this sudden compulsion to start drinking again.01:27
Sithesean: does capitolization matter?01:27
ChousukeSithe: that's simba ;(01:27
dresdenwith all the other confusion im reading01:27
howlingmadhowiedresden: samba is the open-source implementation of the smb-protocol of microsoft (at some stage they let slip how it worked or it got reverse engineered or something). it allows network sharing with a windows computer01:27
seanmeee to LiberCogito01:27
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DBlueperpetual, cause in SuSe was red background and warning, sorry about that but i touch the insert button by misstake01:27
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SitheChousuke: My bad= )01:27
sean"Disabled"01:27
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dresdennice howlingmadhowie01:27
seancapital d Sithe01:27
sauvinSamba is a server/client thing having to do with SMB blocks, iirc; Windows thing.01:27
ZeroA4sauvin, There are 2 writable DVD standards DVD-R(W), DVD+R(w). They are incompatible with each other but are compatible with DVD-Video e DVD-Audio01:27
dresdenim not going to use it though im going to make FAT3201:27
bullgard4Is it possible to edit the messages that I have sent and which are stored in my Irssi? Sometimes it seems that I succeeded but at other times not.01:27
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Sithesean: alright I did that01:28
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seanthen save, close, and restart x01:28
ssammysavadda: I had the same problem on a Thinkpad T2001:28
perpetualsauvin, no excuse. I'm dutch. I learned english too. Not perfect, but quite understandable.01:28
neumindwho is inetd?01:28
sauvin"who"?01:28
Sithesean: restart X?01:28
seanyep, ctrl+alt+bksp01:28
sauvinperpetual, you were saying? :D My wife spoke really broken English, too.01:28
howlingmadhowieneumind: inetd is the super-demon01:28
LiberCogitoperpetual: You write it with greater clarity than many native speakers. :)  Kudos.01:28
seanlol beth ilu01:29
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LiberCogitoily!01:29
ssammysavadda: it was the cd-rom drive01:29
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SitheAlright Sean should I run an fglrxinfo?01:29
dresdenOK Sauvin and LiberCogito and others, heres my new plan, please tell me if its a good idea OK?? 1) wipe the whole HDD and load my working Win2kPro NTFS backup on the WHOLE drive (as i normally do),  2) Defrag the HELL out of it,  3) shrink NTFS and create 42 GB free space,  4) create a 30 GB FAT32 space,  and 4) then create a 12 GB free space for ubuntu  5) install ubuntu,  6) use FAT32 to transfer files inbetween OS ??????01:29
dresden good idea??01:29
seanplz and thank you Sithe01:29
sauvinanyhow, perpetual, kudos to you and your excellent English, but not everybody can hope to aspire to such lofty heights of mastery.01:29
neumindneumind@neumind-system:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart01:29
neumindProFTPd is started from inetd.01:29
neumindproblem?01:29
Sithesean Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".01:29
Sithedisplay: :0.0  screen: 001:29
SitheOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org01:29
SitheOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect01:29
SitheOpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)01:29
perpetualsauvin, ah the joy it must be if my wife would not know my language at all. How quiet that would be...01:30
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savaddassammy: what do u mean it was the cd rom drive?01:30
larson9999i can't get my wife to study english.  she's ok but she should study a bit each day.  she doesn't work.01:30
howlingmadhowieneumind: or to be exact, rather than having 10 different demons on your computer waiting for a request to come through the network, you just have one (inetd) and inetd starts the right program to handle the request01:30
Chousukedresden: Ubuntu can safely write files to NTFS01:30
sauvinLOL!!!01:30
LiberCogitodresden: sounds okay.01:30
Chousukedresden: with ntfs-3g01:30
dresdenchousuke sauvin and libercogito told me not to01:30
SitheSean should I run those 4 commands from earlier?01:30
seanSithe, did you upgdate the fglrx driver at any point?01:30
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ZeroA4dresden, it ok but you can use NTFS too.. Ubuntu 7.04 has NTFS 3G suport01:30
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  so how i can restart me proftp?01:30
Sithesean: no01:30
seanSithe, you can try the 4 commands01:30
LiberCogitoChousuke: it still has its bugs.01:30
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dresdenwhat is this 3G NTFS im hearing01:30
Chousukedresden: it's safe. You don't need fat3201:30
seanand then restart x and let me know what happens01:30
Donnermoinsen01:30
spectre__dear perpetual,I'm logged in a terminal window as root,but if I try to run gparted from it i get an error,and I'f I try to run it from gnome it works but I can't do resize or others operation,can you help me ? thanks01:30
twosouls82!ntfs01:30
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:30
B-rabbithi guyz, does anyone know how to change the default home page of konqueror?01:30
seanit seems like the fglrx driver may not be loading01:30
ChousukeLiberCogito: It does, but it'll refuse operations that would not succeed.01:30
howlingmadhowiedresden: almost. windows won't let you create a 30G fat32 partition01:31
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dresdensauvin and libercogito what do you think, im hearing about all this miracle 3G stuff01:31
ChousukeLiberCogito: so it won't break NTFS partitions01:31
Sithesean: they are all sudo'd right?01:31
sauvinChousoke, it's best to take a conservative approach with these things. Leave the NTFS write capapility to the pioneers for a while.01:31
dresdenhowlingmadhowie THAT SUCKS01:31
seanChousuke, ntfs-3g doesn't have flawless write support01:31
ssammysavadda: yap...the cd-rom drive did not read correctly...I burnt another cd and it worked01:31
Chousukesauvin: it's been widely tested already.01:31
howlingmadhowieneumind: is there an entry /etc/init.d/proftpd?01:31
seanit's still experimental at best01:31
dresdenaahh i have no plan any more if windows wont let me make a 30 GB FAT3201:31
Chousukesean: true, but it works01:31
seanSithe, yes, suda them all01:31
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neumindhowlingmadhowie:  yes01:31
howlingmadhowiedresden: so you have to create that partition from ubuntu01:31
Chousukesean: and it's not experimental either.01:31
dresdenahahh i have no plan any more!!01:31
Chousukesean: it's just not complete.01:31
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dresdenbut howlingmadhowie will it still be read from windows?01:31
howlingmadhowieneumind: try: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start01:31
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dresdencan windows READ a 30 GB FAT32?01:32
twosouls82dresden: In Linux you don't have the 30GB limit, when creating a FAT32 partition01:32
Sithesean: andrew@Andrew:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx01:32
SitheFATAL: Module fglrx not found.01:32
seanChousuke, you just dumbfounded me lol01:32
sauvinDresden, stick with FAT32 for common areas for a while, mmkay?01:32
PriceChilddresden, yes01:32
dresdenok01:32
LiberCogitoChousuke: Read that back to yourself and tell me you honestly think it makes sense.01:32
larson9999does gparted live have a new maintainer?01:32
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.01:32
dresdenawesome so i can make a 30GB FAT32 from linux, and it will be read from windows???01:32
ZeroA4dresden, you can create FAT32 on linux... Windows reads it01:32
twosouls82dresden: and windows can read a 30 GB plus part, eventhough it can't create itself01:32
savaddassammy thanks for that ill try burn another copy01:32
dresdenwow i HATE microsoft01:32
howlingmadhowiedresden: if i remember correctly, windows will just say that a new drive has been discovered and try to mount it. windows can apparently read up to the file system size limit for FAT32, it just can't create it01:32
perpetualspectre__, what does gparted say?01:32
seanSithe, try to reinstall the fglrx driver, and re-run those commands01:32
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ChousukeLiberCogito, sean: there are some cases where NTFS-3g is not able to perform a write. It'll however refuse the operation in that case, so no damage will be done01:32
dresdenthanks howlingmadhowie and others01:32
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Sithesean: how can I reinstall it?01:33
ssammysavadda: Try it...maybe it works for you too01:33
seanChousuke, are you a developer of the ntfs-3g driver?01:33
twosouls82sauvin: 30 GB on windows, 100 GB + on Linux01:33
Chousukesean: no.01:33
LiberCogitoChousuke: Yes, and Vista is a stable groundbreaking OS.  Don't believe all the documentation you read.01:33
sauvinWindows can deal with 100GB FAT32 volumes?01:33
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twosouls82sauvin: yep01:33
ZeroA4sauvin, i think its 130 or 160 GB maximum partition size and 2G maximum file size01:33
dresdenhahahahaha vista sucks i have vista ultimate and i uninstalled that CRAP01:33
dresdenit actually was compatible with me too01:34
sauvinWindows Vista is about as stable as my lower GI after eating too many baked beans.01:34
twosouls82sauvin: no creating them, but using them in Windows is fine01:34
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taxmansauvin: yes, I have a 90GB working fine. Ubuntu seems to think there is a 4gb per file limit that Windows doesn't though01:34
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ChousukeLiberCogito: I haven't really seen any reports of NTFS volumes broken by ntfs-3g yet.01:34
howlingmadhowiedresden: reading on wikipedia: fat32 can be used for partitions up to 4TB in size (4000 GB). the maximum file size is however only 4GB01:34
ChousukeLiberCogito: But I do know it's widely used01:34
dresdentaxman i cant have a 4GB or higher file on FAT32?01:34
dresdenon linux?01:34
Chousuketrue01:34
taxmandresden: I couldn't01:34
Chousukenot on windows either01:34
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dresdencrap i have huge files01:34
Sithesean: how do I reinstall fglrx?01:34
sauvindresden, if you have a 4GB file to worry about, you've got other problems.01:34
dresdeni have files that are sometimes 10s of GB !!!!!!01:35
howlingmadhowiedresden: that seems to be a problem with FAT3201:35
Chousukethen you will have to use ntfs01:35
taxmanChousuke: I have many 4+GB files in Windows on Fat3201:35
dresdenits ok il just break them down in linux before i send them to windows2000 pro01:35
ZeroA4dresden, no... FAT32 does not have suport for bigger tahn 2GB or 4GB file01:35
twosouls82dresden: that's why a lot of "pioneers" try ntfs-3g.. you can only have < 4 GB files on FAT3201:35
seanSithe, open synaptic, look for the fglrx driver by doing a search for fglrx, mark it for a re-install01:35
dresdenok thats ok il break them in linux into pieces01:35
ZeroA4dresden, use NTFS01:35
twosouls82hahaha01:35
dresdenthanks for heads up01:35
LiberCogitoChousuke: don't read, eh?  googling "feisty ntfs write broken" returns 60,400 results.01:35
Sithesean: alright01:35
pawanwhich is the best of till now01:35
dresdenzero everybody here seems to think NTFS is not a good choice for linux to write on01:35
seandresden, it's not01:36
taxmaneh, maybe XP is smart enough to auto break up largefiles in FAT32 and just not tell me01:36
ChousukeI wouldn't be so worried. NTFS-3g already has a stable release.01:36
dresdenim confused as to why we're divided on this issue01:36
sauvinIt's not.01:36
sauvindresden, part of the problem is one of perception.01:36
Sithesean: should I re-install everything that has a green checkbox?01:36
dresdenok01:36
dresdensauvin you recommend i use FAT32 right?01:36
dresdenil do that01:36
seannope, just the fglrx driver01:36
Sithek01:36
twosouls82dresden: I use it on two boxes here, since the feisty release... never had problems with it.. still I don't recommend it on production boxes01:36
sauvinYup. It's been around a while and is well understood. NTFS isn't.01:36
faileastaxman, nope, it dosen't01:36
dresdenok01:36
LiberCogitoChousuke: you know what happened when I tried to write to NTFS?01:37
dresdenthank you every one01:37
Sithesean: xorg-driver-fglrx?01:37
ZeroA4taxman, I think XP just let is pass but them you cant edit the file... just delete it01:37
ChousukeLiberCogito: with ntfs-3g?01:37
Sithesean: or fglrx-kerel-source?01:37
seanSithe, yes'ir01:37
spectre__perpetual: gparted says "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::OptionError'01:37
spectre__Aborted (core dumped)"01:37
larson9999dresden ZeroA4 i've been writing ntfs with ubuntu on 3 different machines for about 2 years now.  pretty heavy writing and no issues yet.  but you know what they say about 'works for me!'01:37
ChousukeNo, I don't. What?01:37
LiberCogitoChousuke: It unmounted the drive.  permanently.  It could not be remount, no matter what I did.01:37
dresdenhahah01:37
howlingmadhowiedresden: according to the wikipedia article, windows can create fat32 partitions up to 32GB in size.01:37
LiberCogitoChousuke: yep.  had to reinstall ubuntu.01:37
dresdeni will go with the safest option any way01:37
taxmancould be, I don't edit them01:37
LiberCogitoChousuke: But hey, the documentation says it works, so that must be true!01:37
Sithesean: Alright re-installed01:37
Chousukesounds like you did something wrong then :P01:37
dresdenoh wow, why did so many say otherwise here holwingmadhowie??01:37
LiberCogitoChousuke: It also completely corrupted a hard drive on a completely different computer.01:38
perpetualspectre__, hmm.01:38
ZeroA4larson9999, i have used ntfs-3g too... no problems here, Vista and XP01:38
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seannow run the 4 commands as sudo, restart x, and run fglrxino for me plz Sithe01:38
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LiberCogitoChousuke: Sounds like you're an idiot that believes any documentation.01:38
Sithesean alright01:38
twosouls82dresden: I would make a large fat32 partition for the important files to be shared.. and a smaller ntfs partition for dvds etc (if you wan't to share those rw too)01:38
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dresdenhey i saw a..... review on the.....internet..that vista was the perfect OS and we should all buy it.........lol01:38
howlingmadhowieneumind: sorry, i got distracted. it seems like you need an inetd. do you have openbsd-inetd ?01:38
spectre__but if i try to run it from the gnome it works but it's all locked,i think because in gnome i am as user and not as root01:38
dresdenok thats what i was thinking twosouls8201:39
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twosouls82dresden: they are payed to say that?01:39
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neumindi dont know01:39
dresdenehhehhehehe i was joking01:39
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twosouls82bad joke =)01:39
ChousukeLiberCogito: I don't know what happened with your disk, but I resent being called an idiot. :P01:39
dresdenbut yes i actually read that01:39
howlingmadhowiedresden: of course, if you do that, you're getting close to breaking the maximum number of partitions on a harddisk01:39
dresdena lot of people seem to think vista is the :wave of the future01:39
faileasnaw01:39
dresdenwow theres a maximum??01:39
faileasits ME XP ;)01:39
dresdeni thought you could have unlimitd partitions01:39
twosouls82they should try mac and reconsider01:39
sauvinChousoke, I don't call you an idiot, but it's not necessarily accusing you of BEING an idiot to suggest that you SOUND like one.01:39
LiberCogitoChousuke: And I resent that you think that your personal OPINION is somehow more relavent to an actual experience.01:40
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LiberCogito*than an01:40
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  i dont know01:40
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larson9999heck, i haven't been able to have a windows installation that could read ntfs for more than a few months without it telling me it was missing some important dll that was write there.  i'd say linux does a better job with ntfs than windows :)01:40
ChousukeLiberCogito: which version of ntfs-3g was this?01:40
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perpetualspectre__, so then do sudo <program>01:40
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dresdenlol01:40
Lustbladerhow to enable my usb device.. it works in windoze but not in linux.. all it says is "no media in drive"01:40
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LiberCogitoChousuke: not at either computer,so I couldn't tell you.01:40
LiberCogitoChousuke: Nor do I really care to.01:40
spectre__perpetual,ok,I'M trying now01:40
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sauvinlarson, i've never had THAT happen; I've never had files wink out of existence.01:40
perpetualspectre__, you need to be root to be able to change partitions01:40
LiberCogitoChousuke: Three other people witnessed both crashes.  It happened.  Deal.01:40
ZeroA4dresden, you can have a vaery big number of logical volumes on a extended partition , but only 4 partitions01:40
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sauvinLustblader, what's the device?01:41
Sithesean: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".01:41
Sithedisplay: :0.0  screen: 001:41
SitheOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org01:41
SitheOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect01:41
SitheOpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)01:41
dresdenwow thanks zero thanks so much i did not know this!!!!!01:41
seansitting beside LiberCogito, Chousuke, witnessed both...01:41
LiberCogitoLustblader: does it have a usb flash drive attached?01:41
howlingmadhowieneumind: do you have /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd01:41
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LiberCogito!paste | sithe01:41
ubotusithe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:41
Lustbladera 1 gig usb device that appears as a floppy drive + usb in windows01:41
ZeroA4dresden, :)01:41
dresdenthe ubuntu pastebin is such a good idea01:41
sauvinWhat is the device?01:41
Sithe!paste | LiberCogito01:42
ubotuLiberCogito: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:42
spectre__perpetual,I get the same error "root@spectre-laptop:~# sudo gparted01:42
spectre__terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::OptionError'01:42
spectre__Aborted (core dumped)01:42
spectre__"01:42
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neumindhowlingmadhowie:  no01:42
howlingmadhowieneumind: try installing it01:42
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neumindhow?01:42
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seanSithe,  try this link http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide01:42
seanfollow the guide, and let me know01:42
howlingmadhowieneumind: though i'm surprised it isn't automatically installed as part of proftp01:42
Sithesean: k01:42
howlingmadhowieneumind: system->administration->synaptic package manager01:43
perpetualspectre__, well, maybe gparted has a bug. There are several other partitioning programs: fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk, normal parted, and some gnome program too01:43
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dresdencan anybody tell me about the linux file system??? is it the best in the world?? what if i installed linux on FAT32??01:43
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spectre__ok,thanks perpetual01:43
LustbladerLiberCogito: any ideas?01:43
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LiberCogitodresden: ext301:43
seanspectre__, qtparted also01:43
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perpetualspectre__, what are you trying to accomplish?01:43
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  then what?01:43
Sithesean: I dont hav Dapper I have Fiesty01:43
sauvindresden, YOU DO NOT WANT TO INSTALL LINUX ON FAT32.01:43
howlingmadhowiedresden: i don't think you can. linux needs rights01:43
dresdenyeah is ext3 "friggan awesome"01:43
dresdenthanks01:43
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dresdeni wont sauvin thanks for heads up01:43
LiberCogitoLustblader: reformat it with a partition editor.01:43
howlingmadhowieneumind: i'm sure you can find openbsd-inetd yourself. how did you install proftpd?01:44
seansame instruction guide Sithe01:44
dresdenso is ext3 "freaking awesome" or what??01:44
Sithesean: alright01:44
perpetualdresden, eh, there is ext2, ext3, reiserfs, jfs, xfs and many others01:44
dresdenwow01:44
Chousukeext3 is the safest bet01:44
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  witch ubuntu feisty help01:44
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  you know it?01:44
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dresdenim just curious how awesome ext3 is01:44
sauvinI said that FAT32 has been around a while and is well understood. What I didn't tell you is that part of the reason it's halfway reliable is that it's dumber than a box of rocks.01:44
andyp_hi01:44
howlingmadhowiedresden: linux supports about 100 different file systems01:44
spectre__perpetual:i need to resize the boot partition,now i 'm trying qtparted01:44
seandresden, i like reiser personally01:44
dresdenhahaha hows it dumber01:44
dresdensauvin01:44
larson9999sauvin, oh? actually a pretty common issue when i last used windows much.  at work the support guys had a bat file on their thumbdrives for the problem.  maybe it's not an issue anymore but google windows won't boot missing dll and you'll get lots of hits.01:45
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rootWhen I enable beryl I get 3D but I don't get the window.  I get what is inside the window just not the part that you can drag and close the window. Do you have any Idea what might be the problem?01:45
sauvinI'm rather partial to ext3. I've heard scare stories about reiserfs but didn't have any trouble with it the few months I actually used it.01:45
howlingmadhowieneumind: i've never used the help in ubuntu.01:45
dresdenok well il use ext3 because its my linx mint (ubuntu) default01:45
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LustbladerLiberCogito: gparted can't see the usb drive.. all it sees is my regular hard discs01:45
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perpetualdresden, you can compare them on features. ext3 is not too good compared to say reiserfs of jfs. Everyone who knows about filesystems seems to say that SUNs zfs is the best filesystem ever made.01:45
andyp_i am useding xterm with a command  that I want the ouput to go to a file say called output what is the command01:45
dresdennice01:45
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howlingmadhowiestanthefisher: yes, this is a known problem. i'll see if i can dig out the cure on ubuntuforums.org01:45
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dresdeni never heard of SUNs zfs, why doenst ubuntu use it default?01:46
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LiberCogitoLustblader: reformat to fat32 in windows, then try it in linux.01:46
sauvinlarson9999, I think that might be something else, not the FS doing it. I won't SWEAR to that, but there are any number of utilities to run, defraggers and the ilk, that can do that.01:46
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perpetualdresden, zfs is not available for linux due to licensing/patent issues.01:46
dresdencan windows run on FAT32???????01:46
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#FTP_Server01:46
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LiberCogitodresden: only the devs can answer that.01:46
LiberCogitodresden: yes01:46
dresdenwow that sucks about ZFS01:46
LustbladerLiberCogito: actually i don have windows now01:46
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dresdencan windows 2000 pro run on FAT32??????01:46
faileasdresden: as i said, yes, it can boot off, install and run on fat3201:46
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LiberCogitoLustblader: google it.01:46
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dresdennice01:46
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faileasits not recoended tho01:46
ZeroA4dresden, it can01:46
LiberCogitodresden: yes01:47
sauvindresden, yes, but you lose a lot of functionality in doing that.01:47
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dresdensauvin what kind of functionality01:47
faileasACLs, some speed, some efficiency01:47
dresdenwhat are ACLs01:47
perpetualdresden, I use reiserfs with little to no problems. I once had a user who'd created 500,000 little files in one directory by accident.01:47
seannot to mention journaling01:47
ZeroA4dresden, i think even Vista can run on FAT32... but FAT32 has no suport for per user permissions01:47
sauvinWindows running on NTFS *does* have rudimentary security and permissions and suchlike that are simply not available on FAT.01:47
LustbladerLiberCogito: i chucked windows01:47
dresdenwow perpetual...thats simpy...perpertual!!01:47
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sauvinperpetual, that's actually said to be one of reiser's strengths: handling gazillions of small files.01:47
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dresdensauvin and zeroA4, do these permissions help me at all????/ like, without NTFS will i not have password protection and such?????01:48
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LiberCogito*is having tech support flashbacks*01:48
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neumindhowlingmadhowie:  i dont fint it01:48
seanlmao @ LiberCogito01:48
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neumindhowlingmadhowie:  i dont find it01:48
faileasdresden: yes01:48
sauvinYou'll have password protection but you won't have the ability to keep Joe Sixpack out of your directories.01:48
dresdenhahai  will never ever try to work for tech support or any support01:48
perpetualdresden, this was on ext3, and it took hours to clean up. Then I moved to reiserfs, created 64 million files, and deleted them in 10 seconds.01:48
LiberCogito*buzzword malformed irrelevent comment, buzzword*01:48
dresdenholy shit01:48
dresdenwow holy shit01:48
howlingmadhowiedresden: it's not just patent/license restrictions. zfs is also way more than just a file system. you'd have to change a lot of things to implement it.01:48
perpetualdresden, it all depends on what you are going to do with your system.01:49
dresdenouch01:49
ZeroA4dresden, them no... but if you share your computer and does not want other users to find you porn.. you will need NTFS...01:49
seandresden, language, plz01:49
PriceChilddresden, lets watch the language please01:49
dresdeni cnat believe you created 64 million files, i didnt know a HDD could handle that01:49
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sauvinI think Joe Sixpack will do very nicely with the widely used and accepted exte3.01:49
sauvinext3, that is.01:49
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neumindhowlingmadhowie:  i find only xinetd01:49
dresdensorry is this a PG room my bad01:49
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dresdenG-rated what ever MY BAD01:49
faileasZeroA4: no, you want it encrypted. ;)01:49
seanit's family friendly =] 01:49
dresdenMY BAD01:49
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cjae_here about the new malware for OOO01:49
ZeroA4faileas, and that too ;)01:50
dresdeni will say a 2 thousand nice things in this room to compensate for my 2 words01:50
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howlingmadhowieneumind: where do you find xinetd? in the synaptic package manager?01:50
dresdeninfact before i leave you all will think im a big fairy01:50
dresdenhahah just kidding01:50
sauvinYou can take your family friendly [BEEP]  and shove it up your [HONK]  and [TWEET]  it @#%%@#@TQ#%Q@#@#Y NO CARRIER01:50
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dresdenhahaha01:50
dresdentweet never heard that01:50
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dresden"Science: an attempt to understand the world using unnecessarily long words." nice01:50
Kaslei've installed bcm43xx-fwcutter... but every time i try to install anything with apt-get, a error message occupears: error with treating bcm43xx-fwcutter error code (1) can anyone please help?01:51
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  yes01:51
faileaslovely01:51
faileasi hosed another wubi install01:51
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Chousukesauvin: NTFS's security is actually a bit more than "rudimentary"... it has ACLs. :/01:51
faileashow many times before i learn to BACK UP ><01:51
larson9999sauvin, err, i was just poking fun at windows.  but the problem was that sometimes windows got confused and even though the file was there and intact, it couldn't see it.  it was probably a bug that has since been resolved.  i think the real point is just dump windows unless you HAVE to have it for work.  then buy some pro stuff and be done with it.  why use a non free file system anyway?01:51
cjae_!wubi01:51
ubotuwubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html01:51
dresdeni already forgot what ACLs means......01:51
dresdenwhats it mean again?01:51
Chousukeaccess control lists01:51
dresdenohh security right01:52
Chousukethey confuse the heck out of me, really01:52
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bullgard4Can phpMyAdmin display the content of a data field of 'memo' type similar to the Microsoft Access or OO.o Base forms?01:52
Chousukemore powerful than traditional unix permissions, but much more complex.01:52
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dresdeni got a question, do video games (very advanced games like Total War and such) require NTFS??????/01:52
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sauvinlarson9999, for many applications, I agree BUT you have to bear in mind that some people really are locked into a Windows reality.01:52
perpetualdresden, why not? On a 100GB hdd you could make about 20*10^9 files with reiserfs, I think, if you make them empty and with filenames no bigger than 5 bytes (which would be enough bytes to make that many different filenames with).01:52
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dresdenwow holy crap01:52
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faileasdresden: depends on if it has any file thats bigger than 4 gb ;)01:52
dresdengood point01:53
howlingmadhowieneumind: try searching for openbsd. it should be there01:53
ZeroA4DreamThief, no. I have Rome Total War installed on a FAT drive01:53
LiberCogitoperpetual: that's nice and all... but erm,  why?01:53
dresdeni guess i wont install windows on FAT32 because of the 4GB problem01:53
dresdenwhy the heck does FAT32 have a 4GB file limit?01:53
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sauvinFile pointer field size.01:53
gordonjcpdresden: the clue is in the title01:53
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giggseyHow do I upgrade feisty to gutsy?01:53
seandresden, because 4g was huge back when fat32 came out01:53
ChousukeFAT32 was originally designed for floppies. or fat16 was01:53
ZeroA4dresden, cos is was created in 197901:53
dresdeni dont get the clue01:53
gordonjcpdresden: FAT *32*01:53
dresdenhahah wow 197901:53
gordonjcp32 what?01:53
dresden32 is the processor right01:53
cjae_dresden,  not to mention there is no security in fat3201:54
gordonjcpno01:54
perpetualLiberCogito, eh. well. someone asked about filesystems I suppose.01:54
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spectre__perpetual: thanks I'll try another way tonight bye bye and thanks to all01:54
dresdeni dont understand how there is any limit01:54
faileasChousuke: floppies were fat1201:54
faileasno01:54
gordonjcp32 bits01:54
Chousukefaileas: ah, right.01:54
seanfat...12?01:54
Chousukeeven worse ^^;01:54
stuart_is it just me, or does upgrading the kernel screw up more than just nvidia?01:54
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  i find openbds-inetd01:54
dresdenoh i thought fat32 was designed for 32-bit processors hehehe01:54
gordonjcpdresden: right, you need a pointer to describe where on the disk you are01:54
howlingmadhowiedresden: try reading the wikipedia article on how filesystems work01:54
stuart_at elast for ubuntu01:54
howlingmadhowieneumind: then you can install it too :)01:54
sauvinActually, there was a FAT... and then there was a FAT12. THEN, when MS got serious about supporting something bigger than a rubber band with a magnet glued to it, they trotted out a FAT16.01:54
gordonjcpdresden: nope; you can use FAT32 on anything really01:54
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dresdenok i will read about it howlingmadhowie01:54
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  install it?01:54
larson9999sauvin, true, when they come to me, i try to get them out of that mentality.01:54
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dresdenLOL sauvi01:54
gordonjcpdresden: the pointers are 32 bits long, and 2^32 is 4 billion01:54
dresdenwow01:54
howlingmadhowiedresden: or if you really want to learn something about computers, i'd recommend tannenbaum "modern operating systems" as a general overview01:55
dresdenmakes sense01:55
dresdenok is that an online thin01:55
faileasfat32 is the swiss army knife of FS. works ok for a lot of things, works great as none ;)01:55
gordonjcpdresden: essentially once you hit the 4G mark you run out of numbers to describe where things are01:55
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  install it?01:55
giggseyCan I just update my sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to gutsy?01:55
faileasno, its a book01:55
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sauvinlarson9999, I used to have to run things like AutoCAD, Solidworks, Solid Edge, MathCAD, Pro Engineer, Unigraphics and Catia. These things are NOT all available on the same flavours of Unix (somme aren't available for Unix at ALL).01:55
howlingmadhowieneumind: if you've found openbsd-inetd, select it and then click on "install" or "apply" or whatever it's called01:55
dresdenwhy did nobody ever upgrade FAT32 to handle larger files???????????????????????01:55
Sithesean: still getting the same problem01:55
dresdenit seems like evolutions next step01:55
gordonjcpdresden: it's like how Unix generally is going to be screwed in 2037 when the clock runs out of numbers01:55
dresdenhahahaha01:56
howlingmadhowiegiggsey: i think so, but there must be a guide in the ubuntu-wiki or on ubuntuforums.org01:56
perpetualgiggsey, in theory yes. In practice, I encountered all kinds of problems when going from dapper -> edgy that way.01:56
dresdenis that a serious actual problem gordonjcp?01:56
seanSithe, try to do a complete removal of the fglrx driver, then follow the guide01:56
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faileasdresden: cause there was no real point. NTFS was far better than FAT32, as was EXT2 and #01:56
ZeroA4dresden, cos FAT has already been upgraded soo much01:56
faileas301:56
Sithesean: how do I do that?01:56
dresdeni see01:56
seansynaptic again01:56
giggseyhowlingmadhowie, perpetual, OKay, thanks. I'll have a bash at it. Broken system here I come XD01:56
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stuart-gordonjcp, how can a clock actually run out of numbers?01:56
Sithesean: all the green checkboxes?01:56
dresdenso NTFS is the new version of FAT32, its just not friendly to other OS besides windows OK i got it01:56
seanonly the ones for fglrx01:56
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sauvinI actually have the suspicion that the Unix community is going to have a Y2K37 crisis right around the year 2030 and will have a fix in place in about two years.01:57
faileasstuart-: the unix epoch01:57
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faileasdresden: no ;)01:57
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ZeroA4dresden, yeah tipical MS way01:57
Sithesean: how do I know if they are for fglrx or not?01:57
Chousukehmm01:57
howlingmadhowiestuart-: depends how large the variable is which stores the time. unix uses an 4-byte int counting seconds from 01.01.1970, if i remember correctly01:57
Chousukewasn't NTFS based on some other FS?01:57
stuart-faileas, googable? it's a famous topic, i assume?01:57
faileasNTFS is a modern file system, with journalling, ACLs etc01:57
Chousukewas it HPFS?01:57
seandresden, ntfs is NewTechnology Filesystem, originally developed for Win NT, but not released to 2k and xp...01:57
sauvinI'm still not clear on where NTFS is in the scheme of things; am I to understand that NTFS operates atop a FAT core?01:57
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seanit's NOT at all FAT01:57
faileasstuart: wiki01:57
Chousukesauvin: no.01:57
faileasnope01:57
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ZeroA4Chousuke, yeah but HPFS was based on fat i think01:57
LiberCogitofaileas: everything is googleable.01:57
FloydFanWorkguys, been trying to install ubuntu and the installation is as slow as my grandma(r.i.p) and it just dont work01:57
dresdenso i guess they completely reinvented the wheel with NTFS huh01:57
ChousukeZeroA4: Hmmh.01:58
seansauvin, no, ntfs is not fat01:58
Sithesean: how do I know if its part of fglrx?01:58
dresdenlol floyd01:58
npnufuwhat is a good dns cache server.01:58
seanit's a totally new fs base01:58
sauvinCorrect. NTFS is an MSDOS flavour of HPFS, which is what OS/2 used.01:58
ChousukeNTFS is actually a pretty good filesystem01:58
faileasdresden: more like replaced a prop with a jet engine ;)01:58
perpetualgiggsey, my worst problem was that I had made my /var on a separate 512MiB partition, which in ubuntu is way too small. During an upgrade, ubuntu puts all downloaded packages somewhere in /var, and that can be several GiB01:58
howlingmadhowiedresden: lots of people have created new, interesting file systems01:58
npnufuI am using Feisty.01:58
seando a search for fglrx01:58
faileassauvin: NT, not dos01:58
sauvinI don't know anything about HPFS, though, either.01:58
giggseyOkay01:58
dresdenahh i see01:58
Sithesean: i did that01:58
faileasNO dos based OS has native NT support01:58
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sauvinNo, DOS used FAT, period.01:58
faileas*NTFS01:58
seanlike WinFS is a reiser re-write ;)01:58
seanlmao01:58
larson9999sauvin, yeah, my approach is if you have to have windows only apps, go back to windows.  i haven't found ANY reason outside of work.  and for work, i'll use whatever they pay me for.  i have no use for windows on linux and think it detracts from the issue.  not using windows only apps in favor of linux apps is the best imo.01:58
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Sithesean: I DID THAT NOW WHAT?01:59
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twosouls82there are dos drivers for win98 though01:59
dresdencan somebody give me a good down-to-earth easy-to-understand analagy of how a filesystem works necessarily (formatting/formatted/whatever)???01:59
faileasthe NT family of OSes are architecturally VERY different fro dos... though, they didn't use mose of the neat features, like subsystems01:59
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twosouls82s/dos/ntfs/01:59
seannow follow the guide i sent you to reinstall, and try that...01:59
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seanfglrx driver was tricky for me at first, and it's kinda picky sometimes01:59
sauvinlarson9999, at home, I can do whatever the hell I want, which is why I'm using ubuntu and ZERO MS software. The workplace reality is very different.01:59
taxmandresden: in few enough lines for IRC? Not sure that's posible01:59
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dresdenok01:59
ZeroA4there is NTFS4DOS... but is a extra program01:59
|GaiJin|Anyone using Ubuntu to transfer music to a Sony Ericsson Mobile??01:59
perpetualdresden, probably not in this channel, and not in a few words. Filesystems are hard, like higher mathematics.01:59
taxmandresden: Wikipedia's filesystem article perhaps?02:00
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Sithesean: I haven't uninstalled yet. How do I know what is fglrx.. just remove anything I have that comes up when I search fglrx?02:00
faileasdresden: a file system is like a index card. it says X is here. Y is there. a journaled file system also keeps track of what moved where. ACLs are like locks anc keys ;)02:00
chenchenwhat i can use to delete all folder named CVS?02:00
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dresdenok taxman if thats a good article il read it02:00
chenchenwhat command i can use to delete all folder named CVS?02:00
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sauvinit's also very different for Joe Sixpack who buys a computer at Walmart and doesn't know the difference between Windows, and Linux, and a bag full of used cat litter.02:00
dresdenmost wiki stuff confuses the crap out of me02:00
seannope, just the driver, and anything that SAYS fglrx Sithe02:00
LiberCogitodresden: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FComparison_of_file_systems&ei=M1O8RtKHFIL8gQT9oczyCg&usg=AFQjCNE8mpwdO8nW1BTBKsluCLzsf8aKjA&sig2=5_EdGe84chFTz3LiAIQpgw02:00
dresdenthanks faileas02:00
Sithesean: alrighty02:00
howlingmadhowiedresden: a file system basically needs to have two things: a way of storing stuff on disk and a way to keep tables so it can tell the operating system what's stored on disk02:00
dv_hello02:00
dresdenthanks LiberCogito02:00
FloydFanWorki did a modprobe piix at theshell it drops me too and when the desktop starts its tottaly slow and unusable\02:00
perpetualdresden, how old are you? Still in school?02:00
larson9999sauvin, yep, and for work, i don't want to monkey around trying things on platforms they weren't meant for.  that's my point.02:00
dv_is it possible for me to set QoS?02:00
dresdenim 2802:00
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perpetualdresden, oh sorry.02:00
dv_for example, I am listening to internet radio,02:00
dresdenimnot big into computers but im beginning to think its pretty cool02:01
gcostellochenchen: find . -name CVS -print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf02:01
dresdenim not offended at all man i wish i was in school02:01
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dv_and want to make sure the player gets at least 10kb/s02:01
dresdenGOD those schoolgirls were hot02:01
faileassauvin: i'd almost want to say joe sixpack wouldn't be on IRC, but i' sure i'm wrong ;)02:01
sauvinWhat's QoS?02:01
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dresdenman i wish iwas in school i miss the schoolgirls02:01
dv_at the expense of other apps02:01
rolahi02:01
FloydFanWorkquality od service02:01
faileaswuality of service02:01
faileas*quality02:01
Sithesean: should I remove the configuration files too?02:01
FloydFanWorkof*02:01
FloydFanWorklol02:01
seanSithe, yes plz02:01
seanit may be a bad config02:01
perpetualdresden, so have a reunion. Maybe some are still attractive.02:01
dv_(it doesnt matter if a download goes at 300 or 290kb/s, but it does matter if the inetradio stutters or not)02:01
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dresdenhahah gross02:01
chenchengcostello, thanks02:02
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gnuskooldredsen, computers r cool, know what, these days its not even geeky to be know em, its worth money02:02
dresdeni am not going to reunions i seen that crap on TV lol02:02
dresdenyeah i wish i was smart like some people here about computers02:02
npnufudoes any one know about pdnsd?02:02
howlingmadhowieeverybody seems to be having difficulties typinq qality of service? i mean, what's so difficult about typing qualiy of surface? it's easy really: qualle ob cervix02:02
faileaslol02:02
perpetualdresden, of course hitting on schoolgirls now may get you in trouble ;-)02:02
sauvindresden, I've been tinkering with computers since before your father boinked you into existence.02:02
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dresdenyup02:02
IdleOnehowlingmadhowie, lol02:02
FloydFanWorkhahah  true02:02
dresdenhahah nice sauvin02:02
dresdenboinked hahaha02:02
npnufuit is a dns cache server.   Does it preserves the cache even on a system crash.02:03
gnuskooldredsen, u proly get more sunshine than most dont worry02:03
rolaFROZEN BUBBLE???????!!!!???02:03
jamiejcumbriaAny one tell me which module to load for cmedia 8738. As my kernel is not loading it but its self.02:03
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IdleOne!offtopic02:03
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:03
dresdenhahah02:03
twosouls82gnuskool: lol02:03
Jebhey - does anyone know of a good bandwidth monitor which has a graphical interface and gives data for the past hour/day/week/month for ubuntu?02:03
dresdenman i love kids though, i wish i were kid again02:03
jamiejcumbriaSorry audio cm873802:03
dresdenbeing a kid is so much fun02:03
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sauvincmedia 8738? That's... pretty old.02:03
perpetualJeb, ethereal, mrtg02:03
dresdenthese kids these days are retards trying to grow up so fast (yes, deliberate offense to you kids who want to grow up)02:03
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bullgard4Can phpMyAdmin display the content of a data field of 'memo' type similar to the Microsoft Access or OO.o Base forms?02:03
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  is the same ...02:04
IdleOne!offtpic | dresden02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about offtpic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
gnuskooldredsen, evolution has speeded up02:04
dresdenlol02:04
IdleOne!offtopic | dresden02:04
ubotudresden: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:04
Jebperpetual: thanks :)02:04
sauvinbullgard4, that question might be better put in #mysql :\02:04
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howlingmadhowiedresden: yep, no one tells you what it's like when you grow up. they're all "driving license", "drinking", "other stuff i can't mention on a family friendly channel", "sex", "prison time". yeah sure. but it's not all fun and games.02:04
dresdenwhats idleone mean02:04
larson9999sauvin, the kids these days(starting from 1) with be able to say at 40, "i've been messing around with computers for 97.5% of my life.02:04
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  ProFTPd is started from inetd.02:04
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dresdenhahah howlingmadhowie you can do most of that stuff as you are still growing up02:05
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howlingmadhowieneumind: where do you get this message?02:05
faileaslol02:05
LiberCogitoHey, I like being grown up.02:05
IdleOnedresden, I mean lets keep the chat in here support related. if you wanna chitchat type /join #ubuntu-offtopic02:05
faileasi started when i was like 5 ;p02:05
bullgard4sauvin: I did not know this channel. I will give it a try.02:05
dresdenok02:05
neumindhowlingmadhowie: from terminal02:05
LiberCogitoI can buy my own booze and eat vanilla frosting and white wine for breakfast and no one bitches.02:05
howlingmadhowieneumind: and when does it say that?02:05
neumindhowlingmadhowie: from terminal, when i want restart proft02:05
howlingmadhowieneumind: try /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart02:06
faileas...02:06
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faileasi'd kill for a coke right now. damn cold turkrying from softdrinks ><02:06
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dresdenyup02:06
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  the same02:06
perpetualQuestion: How do I make gnome-screensaver span two monitors, instead of displaying two separate screensavers on each monitor? I use nvidia drivers with twinview.02:07
dresdenext4 is the new better ext3 right? why did ubuntu use ext3 and not ext4????/02:07
IdleOnesauvin, np and thank you02:07
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FloydFanWorkso nobody here had a probly with a dreadfully slow and painfull install of ubuntu? seems pretty common on googl02:07
perpetualdresden, it is not finished yet.02:07
dresdenperpetual did you try going into terminal and typing nvidia-settings02:07
dresdenthanks perpetual02:07
faileascause EXT4 isn't ready yet02:07
dresdenoh sorry i didnt know you were talking about screensavers02:08
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dresdenman i recommend you just have your monitor turn off02:08
Sithesean: still getting the same thing02:08
howlingmadhowieneumind: let me get this straight. you have just entered "sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart" and the message came "proftpd is started from inetd"?02:08
LiberCogitoFloydFanWork: Ive installed ubuntu on 5 different computers, including a laptop multiple times and never had an issue with an install.02:08
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FloydFanWorkwell.. its veryyy slow and buggy for me02:09
perpetualdresden, I think the issue is with gnome-screensaver. nvidia drivers work perfectly, with twinview (dual screen) and compiz-fusion.02:09
LiberCogitoFloydFanWork: Well, except for when I installed it on the box with a 533Mhz processor... but that wasnt ubuntu's fault.02:09
larson9999FloydFanWork, depending on your system, there maybe some problems.  for my money, the most pain free install comes from following http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty02:09
dresdenyeah perpetual i cant help but i didnt know people still use screensavers02:09
FloydFanWorkno i got a well speced pc02:09
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perpetualdresden, it's the pretty pictures.02:09
dresdenhahahah nice02:09
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  no, i have entered sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart and then came that message02:10
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Sithesean: Im still getting the same error02:10
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ardijkjjoljlj;02:11
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perpetualbye02:11
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dresdendoes anybody have any advice to prevent data loss on my HDD??????02:11
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ZeroA4dresden, keep them off!02:11
dresdenlike using md5's or some thing02:11
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zipperHow do one specify the server port in xchat?02:11
IdleOnedresden, good backups02:11
FloydFanWorkdid that.. did everything. I'm at work now soo i cant remember the errors i was recieving. but I would boot the cd(take forever) and it would drop me to a shell. Somthing about job contrreol being turned off..(MAYBE)02:11
dresdenhahaha i have LOTS of GBs of stuff zero02:11
larson9999dresden, backup02:11
howlingmadhowieneumind: understandably. could you try entering: sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart02:11
dresdenit would take me days to back up all my files to DVDs02:12
tattersmy screen svaer show me a pictire of my desktop and allows me interact with it as though it were a desktop02:12
neumindhowlingmadhowie:  i try02:12
anto9ushow would I go about upgrading openoffice to 2.2.1 in feisty?02:12
tattershng on it is me desktop :/02:12
dresdenis there a program or something that will preverse data integrity on mirrored HDD or some thing similar?? i dont want to burn DVDs all the time02:12
IdleOnezipper, /server irc.newnetwork.com PORT#02:12
howlingmadhowiedresden: how would md5sums help?02:12
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larson9999dresden, if you're not willing to backup, get ready for data loss.02:12
dresdenmd5s just to let me know if i start losing data i dunno02:12
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dresdencan i back up to other HDD?02:12
Sithesean: I have 7 xorg.conf.gflrx backups in my X11 folder02:12
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howlingmadhowiedresden: i bought a streamer off e-bay for 20 euros. it's pretty good for keeping data safe :)02:12
zipperIdleOne, great, thanks02:12
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seanSithe, same prob still??02:12
dresdenwhats a streamer?02:13
Sithesean: yes02:13
dresdenhowldingmadhowie whats a streamer02:13
seangr.02:13
dresdencan i get a link02:13
larson9999anto9us, i always run the version from the ooo site vs the version in ubuntu.  i use alien to convert the rpms and then install the debs.  works well for me ymmv02:13
ZeroA4dresden, backup can be just a spare copy... you can backup to anything that you can copy a file.02:13
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dresdenok02:13
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howlingmadhowiedresden: a tape drive. nowadays they hold about 50GB on a single tape. takes a while to read and write of course, but they're incredibly safe02:13
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anto9uslarson9999: ok, I'll give that a go, thanks02:13
dresdenbut i thought tapes were old and NOT safe02:13
dresdentapes are ancient!02:13
sauvinThey're also still commonly used for backups.02:14
ZeroA4dresden, old tapes are not safe... news ones are02:14
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dresdensauvin i have a really big USB HDD , but i thought all HDD are at serious risk??02:14
larson9999dresden, that's the whole point of making backups.  no media is safe.02:14
sauvinNot for temporary storage.02:14
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sauvinlarson is right, though, even CD is friable.02:14
Sithesauvin wanna help sean?02:14
dresdenyeah thats my problem: i want a permanent data storage solution02:14
seanyeah, sauvin, any ideas?02:15
gnuskooldredsen, just like books are only as good as readers, same systems only as reliable as user02:15
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dresdenyeah ive had CDs fail over time by sitting in a cabinent over the years...pisses me off02:15
sauvinsean, what's up?02:15
howlingmadhowiedresden: have a look here: http://www.sun.com/storagetek/tape_storage/tape_libraries/sl8500/02:15
dresdenhahah sauvin02:15
dresdenok02:15
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seansauvin, it's with Sithe, not me ;)02:15
larson9999dresden, store it in boulders.  the capacity isn't high but it'll likely be around for centuries.02:15
dresdenhahahahahahahahaha02:15
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dresdenim looking at this modular libray howlingmadhowie02:15
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dresdenhow big is this thing?02:15
sauvinSithe's GL problem? I'm not expert with it.02:15
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mattycozehey ppl can someone help me use the program tcpdump with ubuntu02:16
jeek!bcm43xx02:16
ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx02:16
seanit's an fglrx problem02:16
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sauvinWhat's the problem with it?02:16
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SitheXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".02:16
Sithedisplay: :0.0  screen: 002:16
SitheOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org02:16
SitheOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect02:16
SitheOpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)02:16
mattycozesauvin were you talking to me?02:16
howlingmadhowiedresden: it can store up to 150PB (150 million GB)02:16
dresdenholy shit02:16
dresdenSORRY02:16
Sithewhat can hold that much?02:16
tattersthats nearly as much as gmail gives ya02:17
dresdenthis media libray, it must be physically huge>?02:17
sauvinSithe, I gave you a link to a site for this kind of thing... you didn't read it?02:17
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mattycozesorry 150PB!???!!02:17
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dresdenis this thing like the size of a room howlingmadhowie02:17
Sithesauvin ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm02:17
larson9999tatters, i heard gmail is going to 9gb?  i'm still just under 302:17
ZeroA4PetaByte Baby!02:17
howlingmadhowiedresden: it's about 50 meters long and weighs about 110 tonnes in the top configuration02:17
dresdenHOLY CRAP02:17
mattycozelarson9999 that's true02:17
dresdeni cant buy that02:17
sauvinyea. PB. I think that means "peta". That's beyond "tera' and beyond "beva", iirc. That's... FREAKING HUGE.02:17
dresdenits too phsyically large02:17
mattycozelarson9999 to compete with yahoo i think?02:18
dresdeni cant take that thing around with me hahaha02:18
IdleOne!language | dresden02:18
ubotudresden: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:18
howlingmadhowiedresden: it's unlikely you could afford it either :)02:18
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dresdeni can spend 200 bucks on it no prb but its too big02:18
Sithesean sauvin should I jsut re-install linux?02:18
mattycozethat's a lot of porn btw02:18
dresdenoh i see its listen in 200 THOUSAND02:18
larson9999if you could afford that you don't need backups.  just hire guys to recreate the files if you lose them02:18
sauvinTruth is, this 320GB USB I just bought is taking quite a while to fill up.02:18
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howlingmadhowiedresden: try about 20 million dollars for the top version02:18
dresdenwow i was actualyl considering buying it, i thought it was 200.00 hahaha02:18
seanit's what i usually do at this point02:18
sauvinSithe, re-installing won't help.02:18
IdleOne!coc | dresden02:18
ubotudresden: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:18
dresdeni said sorry iwas an accident idleone02:19
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dresdenstop harrassing me please idleone02:19
Sithesauvin orly02:19
Javidis there a provision for emergency tequila parties because i feel that is an important factor02:19
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Sithe!coc | dresden02:19
ubotudresden: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:19
IdleOnedresden, start reading the links ubotu gives you02:19
dresden................02:19
Javidlol coc lol02:19
dresdeni said sorry ok02:19
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dresden!coc IdleOne02:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about coc idleone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:19
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SitheAHAHA02:20
Sitheowned02:20
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howlingmadhowiedresden: it's because you swear every now and then. if you didn't, they wouldn't send you the links02:20
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dresdeni said sorry it was accident02:20
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tattersplz every one enough with coc's02:20
Sithe!coc | dresden02:20
sauvinThey'll NEVER get me to quit [BEEP]  swearing!02:20
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ubotudresden: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:20
dresden!coc | Sithe02:20
ubotuSithe: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:20
dresden!coc | IdleOne02:20
ubotuIdleOne: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:20
FloydFanwell ubotu doesnt no abour coc?02:20
Javid!coc | internet02:20
ubotuinternet: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:20
IdleOne!botabuse02:20
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:20
dresden!stop harrassing me |IdleOne02:20
SitheALRIGHT STOP02:20
mattycoze!uboto | coc02:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:21
dresdeni said sorry OK i am new here02:21
larson9999guess i'll go to work02:21
codesnik_hello02:21
mattycoze!coc | ubotu02:21
ubotuubotu: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:21
dresdenim used to AOL thats all i used computers for for like 5 years02:21
SitheLOL!02:21
mattycozelol02:21
IdleOnedresden, you are acting like a 5 year old. read the rules, follow them or go away02:21
dresdenyou are harrassing me like a child02:21
gordonjcpok, everyone shut up with the !coc plzkthxbye02:21
mattycozecan we kick ubotu?02:21
pvh_sa|wrkhey, i'm trying to figure out the log rotation settings in ubuntu - i see a comment that syslog does log rotation?? but i can't see any settings in /etc/syslog.conf02:21
dresdendo you get off on this please stop dragging this on IdleOne02:21
sauvindresden, you DO understand that IdleOne probably has the means to enforce the rules?02:22
dresdeni apologised the 15th time you did it02:22
Javidwe are tired of hearing about your coc ok02:22
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Frack-Hessehello everyone02:22
mattycozelol02:22
SitheYeah we are tired of hearing about your COCK02:22
Frack-Hessezomg02:22
faileaserm, guts, chill?02:22
Javidlol cocks :giggle:02:22
IdleOneSithe, that didnt help02:22
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Frack-Hesse!02:22
SitheIlde0ne sowry02:22
Sitheeww02:22
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Sithei mispelled it02:22
codesnik_i have some files corrupted, looks like there was corrupted something in my package system. now every time i'm installing some package via apt-get, it says it's "unverified"02:22
larson9999oh boy. i usually hate the OT nazis but maybe we need one now.02:22
howlingmadhowiehey, everybody. this is a help forum, okay. so just drop it02:22
faileasguys, if tis alright, cut out the juvinile macho usage of swearwords? please?02:22
dresdenidleone why do you only harass me when other people make mistakes and they dont apologise like i do??02:22
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Sithesauvin would you like to send me that link again?02:23
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seankk now that this has turned into a circus, i'm out. peace kidz02:23
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sauvincodesnik, would that maybe just be checksum mismatch errors?02:23
codesnik_where i can get signatures for default ubuntu repositories?02:23
faileascodesnik: added any repos and not their GPG key?02:23
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SitheNO SEAN02:23
SitheNOOO02:23
SitheOMFG02:23
Jeb hey - does anyone know of a good bandwidth monitor which has a graphical interface and gives data for the past hour/day/week/month for ubuntu?  i've looked at ethereal and mrtg but they're not quite what i'm after - i used http://www.netlimiter.com/ when I was on windows but the actual traffic shaping part of it wasn't that important - any suggestions?02:23
Sithe /cry02:23
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sipiorpvh_sa|wrk: syslogd doesn't do rotation itself, i believe. you'll want the logrotate package for that02:23
FloydFanholy **** THIS IS A SUPPORT CHANNEL.. PEOPLE NEED SUPPORT!! STOP FILLING IT UP WITH CRAP02:23
IdleOnedresden, go ahead and do what you like. sooner or later you will find yourself with a shiny new ubuntu machine and no one to help you because you will be banned02:23
codesnik_sauvin: i think it just PGP keys that are missing now02:23
JavidDoes anyone know how to kill this dumb orange fish?02:23
dresdenIdleOne why are you continually harrassing me02:24
pvh_sa|wrkjeb: what feature are you looking for that mrtg didn't have?02:24
dresdenPlease stop02:24
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gordonjcpdresden: drop it02:24
tatterscacti02:24
dresdenyou know what im leaving OK02:24
Frack-Hessei installed (k)ubuntu 6.06.1 on my pc, if i want to "get up" to feisty, a simple "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" would do, right? :x02:24
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codesnik_sauvin: but i dunno where i can get em or where i should place em02:24
dresdenil come back some other time02:24
Sithedoes IRC ban your MAC address?02:24
gordonjcpdresden: ignore him and he'll go away02:24
IdleOne!ops dresden  refuse to stay on topic02:24
tatters!cacti02:24
dresdenthank you all the for help02:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cacti - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:24
howlingmadhowiedresden: IdleOne: just drop it, okay?02:24
JavidBYE DRESDEN02:24
gordonjcpIdleOne: pack it in, ok02:24
Selrachis there anyway I can configure pcmanfm to display icons so I can arrange them the way I want like in rox filer?02:24
dresdenbye02:24
pejo_Sithe: your MAC is private02:24
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pejo_Sithe: i think02:24
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Sithepejo Blizzard bans people through MAC adresess02:24
Javid!coc | dresden02:24
ubotudresden: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:24
gordonjcp!ops IdleOne is making a nuisance of himself02:24
pejo_Sithe: oo, maybe they have some spyare allowing them to see your MAC02:25
pvh_sa|wrkSithe: Blizzard runs on your local machine02:25
pejo_spyware02:25
FloydFanyes he is02:25
Sithepejo_ they do its called Warden02:25
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Hobbsee!botabuse | dresden02:25
ubotudresden: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:25
pvh_sa|wrkSithe: but an IRC server only sees your IP address.. so it can't filter on mac02:25
pejo_Sithe: hack blizzard and steal back your mac!02:25
Jebpvh_sa|wrk: well, i don't really know, i wanted something which was easy to use (as nl was) and not as impossible to set up...02:25
pejo_Sithe: or buy a new NIC02:25
Sithepejo_ thats why when you try to hack on a trial acct your main acct get effed over too02:25
tatterschancge mac address02:26
JuarezHi, could anybody say the server version is better than desktop version for domestic use?? pls02:26
Hobbseedresden: calm down.02:26
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sauvinsithe, I think this was the page that told me how to get the [BEEP]  thing working on [HONK]  Fedora Core because the [HONK]  was running like [BZZT] . https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI02:26
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faileasJuarez: server is same kernel w/o a window manager i think02:26
faileasso no02:26
Mas-Gantengncess chia02:26
gnuskoolJuarez, desktop02:26
pvh_sa|wrkjeb: cacti is fairly easy to use02:26
pejo_Sithe: yea, but there is a solution for everything, but a couple of 100 network cards02:26
sauvinWarning: I was investigating an ATI Radeon Xpress 200m.02:26
pejo_buy02:26
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Jebpvh_sa|wrk: thanks, i'll have a look :)02:26
pvh_sa|wrkjeb: web based UI, sucks info via SNMP, etc...02:26
Hobbseedresden: it's just a quiet, so you can watch but cant talk02:26
faileashmm02:26
Sithesauvin: nice choice of words02:26
Frack-Hesse._.02:27
sauvinI've already said I [tweet]  refuse to stop swearing. I just don't GIVE a fudge.02:27
Hobbseedresden: maybe you'll learn about offtopic and how to behave in here, while you're quieted02:27
pejo_anyone know whats up with Xterm if you hit ctrl and s?02:27
sauvinpejo: what happens?02:27
Juarezfaileas: ok thanks..02:27
pejo_it freezes02:27
pejo_becomes ice02:28
pvh_sa|wrkpejo_, depending on tty settings (stty for info) Ctrl-S might be the "stop" sequence02:28
Jebpvh_sa|wrk: just tried installing and setting up mrtg, got totally lost02:28
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IdleOnedresden, I was not trying to harrass you. I was giving you those links from ubotu so that you could read up and see that there are certain rules the ubuntu comunity expects it's users to follow.02:28
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sacaterpejo_: interesting way of putting it :P02:28
Hobbseedresden: you're not being harrased.  calm down.02:28
faileasJuarez: personally i tend to use alternate installer, but thats cause i end up installing on fairly low end systems02:28
Sithesauvin: should I remove my current installations?02:28
sauvinControl-S and Control-Q, when Unix was all glass TTY, were used to freeze and unfreeze scrolling.02:28
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pvh_sa|wrkpejo_, to make it continue, hit Ctrl-Q (per default)02:28
sipiorHobbsee: best to message dresden privately, since the rest of us don't particularly care to hear half of your conversation02:28
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sauvinSithe, I'm REALLY tired and can't think now. Just read the page, mmkay?02:28
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pejo_pvh_sa|wrk: wow! thx :)02:28
Sithesauvin: MMMK!02:28
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Hobbseesipior: i could do that, yes.  of course, watching this channel for more offtopic behaviour is also necessary02:29
gnuskoolfaileas, ever encountered a AMD k6, 2 / 333MHz, with 1998 PhoenixBios??02:29
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pvh_sa|wrkJeb: i understand. unfortunately these kind of things work a bit differently in Unix ;)02:29
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sipiorHobbsee: i'm sure you'll manage02:29
Juarezfaileas: I cant make my festy play any sound, do hav any idea abt wht is goin on?02:29
Jebpvh_sa|wrk: yeah, i guessed as much... :(02:29
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faileasgnuskool: can you get ubuntu on it?02:29
faileasJuarez: 'fraid not02:29
Juarezfaileas: some people said I hav to format and reinstal everythng again02:30
dresdeni hope you all feel big and important now, im leaving ok have a good day02:30
Juarezfaileas:  ok no worries02:30
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burzum_hi there02:30
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dresdenthank you to the helpful people02:30
Jebpvh_sa|wrk: how about something really simple which just logs the total d/l and u/l each day?  surely that can't be too difficult?02:30
ShayeGuys, I wonder... lets say there is a few IRCds process running on my server now, if I reboot the server, do they go back online automatically? or do I need to run everything again?02:30
gnuskoolfaileas, nah mate, got debian woody, something about bios cutoff being 2000, but ofcourse I cant find a bios update02:30
Hobbseesipior: thanks for the vote of confidence.02:30
sauvingnuskool, I have an AMD k6 or k7, 350 HMz with a late 90's BIOS in it floating around somewhere. There's a quesiton?02:30
faileasJuarez: when that happene with my old mandriva system thats what i did. if you backup /home you'll be ok02:30
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IdleOneShaye, you need to start them up again but you can do it auto using crons02:31
sauvinShaye, that depends on how you have them hooked up.02:31
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pvh_sa|wrkJeb: heh, i tend to use mrtg... 'cause that's *my* "simple solution"02:31
dangerkohello guys02:31
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gnuskoolsauvin, yeah strugglin to get a modern bios, looked high n low, nudda02:31
burzum_is it possible to keep mails, contacts and the calendar somehow synchron between outlook and evolution or kontakt?02:31
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stdinShaye: unless they are stated by init scripts, you'll have to start them02:31
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pvh_sa|wrkJeb: but then i've been usic in different forms since 199402:31
pvh_sa|wrkJeb: using unix even. typos....02:31
sauvinIt might be easier just to get a motherboard with newer stuff on it anyway.02:31
faileasburzum_: use IMAP if thats an option ?02:31
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faileaselse, set them not to delete messages from server unless (somethin) maybe02:32
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gnuskoolsauvin, not entirely in my range of possibilities right now, im trying to squeeze what I can onto this02:32
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burzum_faileas, imap cant save the contacts and events02:32
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gnuskoolsauvin, know a good bios update resource site?02:32
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snadg3can I install php for apache 1 on feisty?02:33
pvh_sa|wrkburzum_: imap will handle your mailbox. the calendar... not sure - share an ICS file between the different calendar apps? and contacts... heh, kinda hard. maybe use a LDAP server. but all in all, its not easy02:33
dangerkoguys i have problem with ubuntu specail with screen resulotion i can fine help here?02:33
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dangerkospeical*02:33
dangerkofind*02:33
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MeRodentIs there any way to edit the grub file without logging into ubuntu?02:33
ShayeUf... let me put it that way, how do I learn to use linux? :<, becuase I can manage to do things but i feel that I don't understand most of what i do, I just look guides and stuff like a "parrot" :)02:33
IdleOne!fixres | dangerko02:33
ubotudangerko: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:33
Jebpvh_sa|wrk: right, well, i'll try mrtg again, the problem is i want this to be simple enough for my mum to check on her laptop (we just want to work out what download limit we should get when we get our new net connection, and then to monitor how much we've used when we've got it)02:33
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faileasMeRodent: grub has a minimal shell... donno how mych it does tho02:33
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sauvinShaye, that's precisely how most of us learn, I think.02:34
pvh_sa|wrkJeb: once you have mrtg or cacti set up, its simply a webpage to check...02:34
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Jebpvh_sa|wrk: yeah, but i need to set up apache etc don't i?02:34
gnuskoolShaye, try linux from scratch, that'll show you the underbelly of the beast02:35
burzum_pvh_sa|wrk, i know :( i still had the hope that theres an easy solution... i hate MS that much for their fu... closed source *.pst format...02:35
MeRodentAny suggestions in how to launch a shell login from grub?02:35
Rowanhmm.. ill /b/rb in a bit02:35
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dangerkohmm is there arabic helper here?02:35
amorphous_if I ssh -X into a remote machine, is there a way I can su to another user and still keep the Xserver running so I can open gui apps as another user?02:35
pvh_sa|wrkJeb: yes, you need a webserver like apache02:36
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sauvinWhat's the two-lettre country code for (say) Saudi Arabia?02:36
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pvh_sa|wrksauvin: .sa02:36
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ShayeBtw, I installed ubuntu 7.04 and i choose to install the 'LAMP' ver, where is the mysql,apach, etc located in02:36
sauvin!sa | dangerko02:36
ubotudangerko: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa02:36
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dangerkothank you dude /bow02:37
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Jebpvh_sa|wrk: ah well, this is too difficult...  just have to leave it i guess02:37
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Jonatha1how can i run commands in a script as root>02:37
Sithesauvin still doesn't work LOL!02:37
faileashmm...02:37
Jonatha1?02:37
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pvh_sa|wrkJonatha1, sudo02:38
faileas!tm02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
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CzarAlexMy system time is off by about 15 minutes. using CLI, how can I change/update this? Is there some command to sync with a server?02:38
Jonatha1is there anyway of using su and then run the commands as pure root?02:38
Sitheright click the clock and click adjust time and date02:38
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sipiorCzarAlex: ntpdate02:38
howlingmadhowieJonatha1: sudo -i02:38
mofuxhi, anyone knows how to solve a black desktop prolbem. i don't have icons on it anymore, my background image is gone and context menu on the desktop also doesn't work...02:38
CzarAlexSithe CLI. IM not using GUI.02:38
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CzarAlexsipior Lemme try that.02:39
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Sitheczaralex oh02:39
Jonatha1i'll work on my script and see what happens02:39
Jonatha1thanks02:39
pvh_sa|wrkCzarAlex: ntpdate02:39
Sitheczaralex ntupdate02:39
SORMANOVhello all02:39
pvh_sa|wrkCzarAlex: and if you want to stay synced, you can switch on ntpd02:39
faileas!wubi02:39
SitheHi02:39
CzarAlexsipior 10 Aug 08:52:00 ntpdate[27858] : no servers can be used, exiting02:39
ubotuwubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html02:39
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sipiorCzarAlex: you'll need to tell it which server to use, of course02:39
CzarAlexsipior I see :) where can I find a list?02:39
Sithecan anyone help me with my fglrx?02:40
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sipiorCzarAlex: i believe ntp.ubuntu.com works02:40
FloydFan ok.... installing ubuntu. Installatio craped out and droped me to initramfs. added "break=top" to install options, then "modeprobe piix", then "exit". Desktop boots after about 1000 years. Using install is impossibly slow and pretty much haults. Answeres?02:40
CzarAlexsipior Thanky.02:40
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sipiorCzarAlex: there are also regional timeservers, possibly closer to where you are, network-wise02:41
sauvinFloydFan, what are you installing from?02:41
kripplewooohoooo for ubuntu :D02:41
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FloydFanfiesty on cd and alt cd02:41
Jonatha1sudo -i only works for people who can sudo, my user can't (though i know the root password)02:41
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CzarAlexsipior Understood. And everything seems to be fine now. Thanks!02:41
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FloydFantryed both02:41
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sipiorCzarAlex: glad to help02:42
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akosHello! Does anyone know where gaim keeps its default emoticon pack? Or how could I grep some files for ":-w"? It takes -w as an argument...02:42
kidbuntuin java programming. what does mapping means. "Map" i don't fully understand the meaning of it in google. is there a laymans term for that02:42
akosI tried grep -R :-w *, but that does not work02:42
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sauvinkidbuntu, the word "map" means several different things to me. Could you supply context?02:43
snhow do i install beryl themes on ubuntu02:43
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gcostellokidubuntu: a map is an object that maps keys to values, cannot contain duplicate keys and each key can have at most one value02:44
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sauvingcostello, that's what a perl person would call a hash?02:44
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sncan any 1 help plz02:44
kidbuntusauvin: example this one. i'm just a newbie programmer. public static Map createProductPromoCodeSet(DispatchContext dctx, Map context)02:44
gcostellosauvin: yes02:44
kripplewhere can i find reference to code to search and install programs from the net02:44
SORMANOVi cant mount my sony memory stick card, dmesg tell me: [ 1641.864000]  tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:002:44
SORMANOVhow can i mount it ?02:45
sauvinkidbuntu, did you understand what gcostello said?02:45
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pvh_sa|wrkSORMANOV: it should show up as a new "SCSI" drive... i.e. /dev/sda or something02:45
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kidbuntusauvin: nope. i also don't know what hash is, what's hash for. haven't even tried programming with perl02:45
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gcostellokidubuntu: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/Map02:46
sauvinI know. I was asking because I don't know any java. I can explain the concept in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like.02:46
Rayyanhello lin02:46
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snsauvin can u help02:46
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sauvinsn: with what?02:46
lostat_CIs there a way to add a transparent button bar that hides when not used?02:46
pvh_sa|wrkkidbuntu: sounds like you need to take a programming course. a hash is an associative array... i.e. an array where the key is a string, not a numberical index ;)02:46
lostat_CIn XFCE?02:46
SORMANOVpvh_sa|wrk, it doesnt02:46
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kidbuntusauvin: you can explain it to me in that channel.02:47
Rayyancan anyone help me fix my mouse's scroll? i cant wheel click and then go up and down a window but it works perfectly on explorer02:47
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sauvinpvh_sa|wrk, and for all that meant to somebody who knows no programming, you may as well have said that in German :\02:47
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Rayyanon windows*02:47
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snhow to i install beryl themes on ubuntu02:47
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kripplehow do i do an installation through terminal  ...............where do i find code ref for these kinda things02:47
dgjones!beryl | sn02:47
ubotusn: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects02:47
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pvh_sa|wrkSORMANOV: does it show up on a lsusb ?02:48
frafrahi! How to install qt4.3 on ubuntu feisty?02:48
linux_what in synaptic is like windows paint ?02:48
gh0stHello, again.02:48
Rayyan!scroll02:48
Rayyan!mouse02:48
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Rayyan:<02:48
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pvh_sa|wrklinux_: gimp ?02:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scroll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:48
swmiller6 linux_: tux Paint02:48
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto02:48
gh0stBe right back.02:48
SitheHow do I blacklist ati-agp in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?02:48
Blauhauthow can i close desktop-effects with konsole ?02:49
gordonjcpheh, I just realised my scrolly mouse is nearly eight years old02:49
linux_swmiller6 . gimp is like photoshop i need some thing that is exactly like windows paint ?02:49
kidbuntupvh_sa|wrk: thats the problem. i'm already taking a programming course. The school sucks on teaching thats why i'm learning on my own.02:49
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kripplehow do i do an installation through terminal  ...............where do i find code ref for these kinda things02:49
Rayyanhapy bday for ur mouse :P02:49
linux_/j fedora02:49
SitheHow do I blacklist ati-agp in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?02:49
gnuskoolgh0st, the fact youre back cant be good news, ahha, howd it go?02:49
SORMANOVpvh_sa|wrk, no, nothing02:49
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swmiller6 linux_: I suggested tux paint which is most like windows paint02:50
gcostelloSithe: just add blacklist ati-agp to the end of the file02:50
BlauhautHow can i close the desktop effects wihout x inteface, with konsole  ?02:50
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Sithegcostello ty02:50
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kane77so what do I need to mount my ntfs drive as read and write02:50
kane77?02:50
Jonatha1how can i change to root in a script? and continue executing commands as root? (my user can't sudo but can su)02:50
dgjones!ntfs-3g | kane7702:51
ubotukane77: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:51
gcostellokidubuntu: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/02:51
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sni can not get gnomebacker to write cds  it just says failed   CAN ANY 1 HELP02:51
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sipiorkripple: if i understand you correctly, you'll want the "aptitude" command, and you can get more information from "man aptitude"02:52
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Blauhautis it posible to remove desktop-effects without removing ubuntu-desktop ?02:52
JesusHow do I get gaim-latex in ubuntu? I cannot find it in synaptic.02:52
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LattywareCan anyone help me, I'm trying to write a script to display xChat messages on the G15 keyboard's LCD screen, but I cannot find documentation on g15composer anywhere! Can anyone help?02:53
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kripplesipior : thanks02:53
linux_i can remove gnome and replace it with kde ?02:53
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Blauhautlinux_;  sure you can do it02:54
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Blauhautbut try to use kubuntu if you want KDE02:54
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BlauhautHow can i remove desktop-effects without removing ubuntu-desktop ?02:54
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snsipior can u help me with gnomebacker i can not get it 2 write 2 cds it just says writing failed02:54
linux_Blauhaut , is hard to do it ?02:55
wnethiiii02:55
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sipiorsn: sorry, i'm not familiar with that program. is that the only error it gives?02:55
wnetsame here02:55
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BlauhautLinux_ go download kubuntu and install it :)02:55
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wnethi rick02:56
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wnethi02:56
linux_Blauhaut , i want to keep my ubuntu i cant install onit ?02:56
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sipiorlinux_: if you just want to try out kde, do "aptitude install kde". reinstalling would also work, but this will be easier :)02:57
ketzalhow can I know where's my Grub installed? wich HD? for example: /dev/hda How can I know if my grub is installed on /dev/hda?02:57
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sndoes any 1 know how to a good peer to peer program on linux02:57
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Skiessidoes ubuntu support this? http://www.trust.com/products/default.aspx?cat=_Current&grp=TABLETS&type=12X9-INCH&item=1407002:57
Jonatha1how do i change users in a script? And Then run commands as that user?02:57
SitheAnyone here familiar with the EE errors in Xorg.0.log?02:57
chmielahi ;) i'm searching program just like aida for windows, do you can hel me?02:57
CzarAlexWhen using the command line, the results of ls don't line up in nice columns anymore. How can I change this back to the default output?02:58
sndoes any1 know a good peer to peer program02:58
jportsn: frostwire02:58
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sipiorSkiessi: i doubt it.02:58
Blauhautlinux_;  try on console : sudo apt-get install kde02:58
snis that a good 1 jport02:58
LattywareCan anyone help me, I'm trying to write a script to display xChat messages on the G15 keyboard's LCD screen, but I cannot find documentation on g15composer anywhere! Can anyone help?02:58
dgjonesketzal, grub will be installed in your /boot/grub folder02:59
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snhow do install in mate02:59
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mohandethhi02:59
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SitheI have (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log can someoen tell me how to fix this?02:59
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fulhackHi.. My audio playback capabilities have disappeared. I haven't used this computer in a while, but I've just now noticed I can't play audio in amarok and such. The mixer volumes are O.K.. Any ideas? :\ I also can't 'cat' to /dev/dsp.. Not sure wether I should be able to when ESD is running though.02:59
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eugmanHey what is an xclient session?03:00
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CzarAlexHere is an example: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33222/03:00
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Jonatha1how do i change users in a script?03:00
fulhackJonatha1, you could sudo?03:00
Jonatha1cant sudo03:01
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SitheHey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?03:01
kripplehmmm how do i set myself to root in the terminal03:01
Jonatha1i know the root password so i can su03:01
sipiorfulhack: do you have multiple ESDs running?03:01
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chmielahi  i'm searching program just like aida for windows, do you can help me?03:01
fulhackWhat about su [your user]  -C "Whatcha-wanna-run", jonath1?03:01
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sipiorchmiela: what does aida do?03:01
Jonatha1but when i use su the script stop03:01
wnethi03:01
fulhacksipior, I don't believe so.. 1 sec.03:02
FireHazard17what command is it to see your uptime?03:02
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CzarAlexuptime03:02
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kripple*sorry guys it's been to long since i've been on ubuntu03:02
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kripplehmmm how do i set myself to root in the terminal03:02
kizmetJonatha1, visudo... Edit the conf to allow the user to sudo without a password... (highly insecure tho)03:02
giggseysudo -u ?03:02
giggseyJust do sudo su to cheat though :P03:02
FloydFan(once more) ok.... installing ubuntu. Installatio craped out and droped me to initramfs. added "break=top" to install options, then "modeprobe piix", then "exit". Desktop boots after about 1000 years. Using install is impossibly slow and pretty much haults. Answeres?03:02
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FireHazard17kripple: sudo gnome-terminal too03:02
howlingmadhowieJonatha1: why do you want to change users in a script?03:02
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fulhacksipior, No, I don't.03:03
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krippleFH: thanks03:03
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eugmanwhat is an Xclient session as oppossed to Gnome or KDE03:03
Jonatha1so i can change from user "guest" to user "jonathan" and change the permisions of the folder and edit a file03:03
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chmielasipior: aida give me information about my computer (hardware etc.)03:04
Jonatha1(all in one script)03:04
SitheHey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this03:04
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FireHazard17what is the command to see how long yer comp has been running?03:04
sipiorchmiela: try "hal-device-manager". you may have to install it, i forget if it is included by default03:04
dgjonesFireHazard17, uptime03:04
Jonatha1fire; uptime03:04
fulhackFireHazard17, "uptime"03:04
FireHazard17oh03:04
Jonatha1lol03:04
FireHazard17sorry03:04
fulhack;)03:04
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SitheHey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?03:05
Jonatha13 at once03:05
chmielaok, thanks ;)03:05
Jonatha1anyhelp?03:05
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FireHazard17dogmeat: banned03:05
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FireHazard17dogmeat: sorry wrong03:05
donkeyrapeCan I put my NTFS partition as the home folder for vsftpd? How do I do that? I didn't find anything in vsftpd.conf03:05
FireHazard17donkeyrape: banned03:05
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CzarAlexWhen I list the contents of a directory using the command line using ls, the formatting is off. How do I restore the default setting where the nice columns are used? Here is an example of my current output. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33222/03:05
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dissectionUh, sorry03:05
howlingmadhowieJonatha1: i think the classical method would be to have a script which can only be run by root03:05
FireHazard17dissection: its fine03:05
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SitheHey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?03:06
dissectionYeah, so, can I put my NTFS partition as the home folder for vsftpd? How do I do that? I didn't find anything in vsftpd.conf03:06
t94xrFireHazard17: LOL banning the wrong people?03:06
Jonatha1i will need to be able to run this script as non root though03:06
Aye|Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..03:06
FireHazard17lol03:06
bentob0xwhen you uninstall a software, what's the command to make sure it takes away all config files also?03:06
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FireHazard17t94xr: banned for questioning my banning03:06
sipiorJonatha1: might be simpler just to have the two users in the same group, and modify permissions on the file so that no user change is necessary03:06
FireHazard17:p03:06
t94xrLOL03:06
t94xrsure03:06
SitheHey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?03:06
null02can someone help me configure grub to do a dual boot?03:07
dgjones!dualboot | null0203:07
ubotunull02: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty03:09
gcostellobentob0x: aptitude purge $packagename03:09
sipiorCzarAlex: "unalias ls", then try gain03:09
SitheHey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?03:09
Jonatha1i need to have the file readerable at some-points and at others un-readable though03:09
Aye|!graphics card boot03:09
Aye|nope03:09
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CzarAlexsipior bash: unalias: ls: not found03:09
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FireHazard17moo03:09
howlingmadhowieJonatha1: the problem you have is that su automatically starts a subshell03:09
krippleguys how come ubuntu isn't downloading packages and installing them it keeps saying  >"couldn't find package vlc"03:09
FloydFanIs there any other method of installing ubuntu besides using live cd and alt-install, like instal from hard drive?03:09
SitheHey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?03:09
Jonatha1thats true03:09
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sipiorCzarAlex: odd. how did you change the default listing then?03:09
CzarAlexsipior I was trying to backup an mysql database but forgot to specifty a file to dump it to, so the text was all up on the screen. To abort, I did Ctrl+C and now the ls is borked.03:09
fulhack'/dev'dsp' is busy, and 'lsof /dev/dsp' shows no processes.. How do I know what's hogging /dev/dsp?03:09
null02Im installed ubuntu on a fakeraid but I cant get it to show the grub menu03:09
sipiorCzarAlex: try "stty sane" and then ls03:09
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gcostelloSithe: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide03:09
Jonatha1qnd i need the rest of the commands to be run in that subshell03:09
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Jonatha1*and03:09
CzarAlexsipior no change.03:09
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howlingmadhowieJonatha1: have a look at "man su" in particular the "-c" optino03:09
sipiorCzarAlex: but if you open another terminal, it displays fine, right?03:10
Shayeapt-get install tcl, will install me the latest ver of tcl?03:10
dissectionAnyone here uses vsftpd?03:10
howlingmadhowiedissection: i do :)03:10
CzarAlexsipior Yes. another terminal window is fine.03:10
Shayedissection i do ;D03:10
dissectionhowlingmadhowie, Shaye, how do I specify a directory other than /home/ftp? I didn't find anything in vsftpd.conf03:10
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CzarAlexsipior i. uh.. closed off the ssh program, restarted it, and now it works fine?03:11
sipiorCzarAlex: well, terminals get b0rked sometimes :) probably just easiest to start fresh in another.03:11
Shayeu mean the 'start' directory?03:11
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Jonatha1The thing is, is that i will be running multiple commands and don't want to repetivly type the password03:11
CzarAlexsipior haha Thanks! *facepalms*03:11
Hoxzerhow can I make deb out of source got with "Apt-get source"03:11
dissectionShaye: I mean the default directory that the user sees when he log into my ftp03:11
geniiOn return from tty1 to X with alt-f7 getting blank white screen. ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't help neither does restart of kdm/gdm. Monitor is not PNP. X is using i810 driver. Any ideas appreciated03:11
Jonatha1and i need to run an if/else to validate the user (this script will be run by linux newbies)03:11
gcostelloSithe: try to run: sudo modprobe fglrx03:11
bentob0xthx gcostello03:12
howlingmadhowiedissection: set a different home directory for ftp in /etc/passwd ? that would be my first approach03:12
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SitheOkay03:12
Sithegcostello: FATAL: Module fglrx not found.03:12
Aye|Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..03:12
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bentob0xI always used apt-get instead of aptitude and I installed apache and apache2 which I want to clear both perfectly before reinstalling apache203:12
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bentob0xbut as I installed apache and apache2 with apt-get, I think aptitude can't find what to purge03:13
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sipiorbentob0x: safest just to purge with apt-get, surely?03:13
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dissectionhowlingmadhowie: It shows this... ftp:x:113:65534::/home/ftp:/bin/false <-- Do i change /home/ftp or /bin/false, or both?03:13
Shayehow would u install the latest tcl version03:13
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Sithegcostello: FATAL: Module fglrx not found.03:13
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gcostelloSithe: try this link - http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page03:14
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howlingmadhowiedissection: change /home/ftp. the /bin/false just means that you can't log in as the user ftp03:14
linux_someone know about SONY PLAY STATION 1 EMULATOR in linux ?03:14
howlingmadhowie!pastebin03:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:14
gh0stGnuskool: Well, last night (I'm in school right now), I came to the conclusion to get rid of the partitions I made and start over. Bad idea?03:14
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Sonic1Is anyone running on the Alpha build of Gutsy Gibbon?03:15
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LattywareSonic1: Yeah03:15
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Sonic1Lattyware, is it stable?03:15
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BosamboOk...I TOTALLY messed up...can anyone tell me why aptitude would suggest I uninstall several essential packages?03:15
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pawanhi03:15
dresdenguys i connected my USB HDD (NTFS) and i try to write to it and it wont let me because of permissions, and i cant change permissions!!! help!!!03:15
ksivajihttp://pastebin.com/d5e2fa4b3 dpkg error03:15
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jribBosambo: what did you ask it to do?03:15
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dissectionhowlingmadhowie: I just tried that and now it won't connect anymore03:16
pawan!hi03:16
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:16
jrib!ntfs-3g > dresden (see the private message from ubotu)03:16
ben__dresden> you need NTFS-3g03:16
howlingmadhowieJonatha1: have a look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33224/03:16
aaron!hi03:16
dresdenok03:16
dresdenthanks03:16
dresdenits just a package right?03:16
lasse__woho -- vacation time! :) enjoy yourself guyes :)03:16
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howlingmadhowiedissection: have you sighuped the ftp daemon?03:16
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boris_hey is any1 here ?03:16
boris_please respond im checking my net connection03:16
kidbuntu!beryl03:16
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects03:16
Aye|Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..03:16
linux_!compiz03:16
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:16
dissectionhowlingmadhowie: I don't know. But before I did an online test and it connected to the FTP successfully and got the welcome message.03:17
dresdenthanks bye guys03:17
ben__I've just removed the default movie player and added VLC. How do I change the filetype associations for movies to VLC?03:17
jribSonic1: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy.  You shouldn't use it as your main machine.  It's bound to be broken sometimes even if it is ok now03:17
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krippleOK how do i add a url for a program to download to  the list it looks at to get the package address so they can be dled03:17
kidbuntu!beryl03:17
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects03:17
LattywareSonic1: Seems so for me, obviously it's subjective.03:17
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tranmanhtrihello everybody03:17
Jonatha1i'll see if it helps03:17
howlingmadhowiedissection: if you don't get directed to the new $HOME of ftp when you log in to the vsfptd, try first: /etc/vsftpd restart03:17
jribkripple: what list?03:17
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kripplewell i want to install vlc  but it can't find the package03:18
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tranmanhtriwhere are you living?03:18
howlingmadhowieJonatha1: is it sort of clear what i'm trying to do? i'm making two different bash-scripts03:18
gh0stGnuskool, you here still?03:18
kripple last time i added a url or something so it knew where on the net it is03:18
dissectionhowlingmadhowie: Okay, I restarted it. Still doesn't connect anymore.03:18
tranmanhtrii'm living in VIETNAM03:18
dredhammerhello how do i get ubuntu's built in networking like dchp to mirror the settings of my hardware based router? like the maximum number of dhcp users03:18
jribkripple: have you enabled the universe repository?03:18
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anandanbui have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in ubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png03:18
jrib!offtopic | tranmanhtri03:19
ubotutranmanhtri: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:19
kripplejrib no don't know how or where03:19
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jribkripple: system -> administration -> software sources03:19
jrib!universe > kripple (see the private message from ubotu)03:19
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dissectionhowlingmadhowie: Its connects when I changed it back to /home/ftp/03:19
ShayeCan u tell me what is the latest version of TCL?03:19
howlingmadhowiedissection: what do you mean by "doesn't connect"? can you paste the result of: ftp localhost03:19
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Jonatha1IT MAY OF HELPED03:19
dissectionhowlingmadhowie: Well after I changed it, it says this * FTP response reading failed03:19
Jonatha1JUST FINE TUNING03:19
dissection* Closing connection #03:19
jribBosambo: how did you install the dependencies?03:19
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FloydFanis there a better channel to discuss instilation bugs??03:20
BosamboI tried to build a bunch of things that Gimp said it depended on and caused more trouble than it was worth...deb packages from Debian.org03:20
howlingmadhowiedissection: how are you connecting to the ftp server?03:20
jribBosambo: hmm, ok... join me in #ubuntu-classroom03:20
AkoviemFloyd, I have the same issue,03:20
sipiorFloydFan: not really, you may have just stumped the locals, is all03:20
BosamboOk03:20
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dissectionhowlingmadhowie: http://www.g6ftpserver.com/en/ftptest03:21
howlingmadhowieJonatha1: don't shout :)03:21
FloydFanAkoviem: really?03:21
anandanbui have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in ubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png03:21
AkoviemI cannot install past the keyboard select screen03:21
AkoviemYOu?03:21
dissectionhowlingmadhowie: when I typed ftp localhost, it said 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root03:21
FloydFanmine goes a bit further03:21
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geniiAkoviem: Are you on alternate cd?03:21
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dissectionhowlingmadhowie: But I didn't enable write access03:21
Viper^okit.se03:22
FloydFangenii: tryed both03:22
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AkoviemNo on the iso download03:22
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Akoviem6.06, should I download the other one03:22
FloydFanwell i have used both03:22
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FloydFansame result03:22
geniiFloydFan: In console4 (alt-f4) does it say:  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found    ?03:22
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FloydFanhmm  not sure I'm at work..03:22
Aye|Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..03:23
howlingmadhowiedissection: hang on, i'm thinking03:23
FloydFandid u read my procedure?03:23
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ShayeCan u tell me what is the latest version of TCL?03:23
FloydFan(once more) ok.... installing ubuntu. Installatio craped out and droped me to initramfs. added "break=top" to install options, then "modeprobe piix", then "exit". Desktop boots after about 1000 years. Using install is impossibly slow and pretty much haults. Answeres?03:23
nelaM03:23
FloydFanthere..03:23
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codesnik_hey, is there a way to install proprietary codecs not using automatix and alike?03:23
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giggseyFloydFan, how much RAM?03:23
sipiorFloydFan: which version of ubuntu, btw?03:23
FloydFangig and 1/403:23
FloydFanfiesty newest03:23
linux_someone know about SONY PLAY STATION 1 EMULATOR in linux ?03:24
Jonatha1Might have a hitch03:24
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sipiorFloydFan: and why did you add "break=top" and modprobe to the kernel options?03:24
geniiFloydFan: I had same issue, turned out need to disable i82365.ko kernel driver from locking up system. you go to a busybox (alt-f2 or f3) then rm /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel.drivers/pcmcia/i83265.ko03:24
gh0stLinux_: They have a PSX Emulator for Linux?!03:24
dissectionhowlingmadhowie: Sorry my electricity's gone. I'll be back later.03:24
jrib!restricted > codesnik_ (see the private message from ubotu)03:24
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Stormx2linux_: Search for emulator under synaptic.03:24
dissection:(03:24
SeveredHeadpsxe?03:24
FloydFangenii: ok ill check it out03:24
howlingmadhowiedissection: what does it say to: ftp anonymous@localhost03:25
AkoviemAnyone know why I cannot install past the keyboard selection, it just hangs03:25
howlingmadhowieJonatha1: what's up?03:25
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geniiFloydFan: should be kernel/drivers    no . but /   there :)03:25
krippleok guys wat can i use to watch avi's03:25
Frack-Hesse!upgrade > Frack-Hesse03:25
FloydFansipior: cause it dropped me to a intramfs adn it was unusable03:25
gh0stSeveredHead: PSX ias the correct to term to refer to the original Playstation. (The one before the lighter colored one with the little screen attachment).03:25
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unitheoryAkoviem, you could try the alternate cd03:25
Akoviemok will do that first, thanks03:25
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jribkripple: totem, vlc, mplayer, gxine all work fine03:26
anandanbui have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in ubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png03:26
ben__How do I change file associations so that double clicking on movie clips opens in VLC media player rather than the default movie player? Cos I just deleted it in favor of VLC03:26
sipiorFloydFan: but it worked when you added those directives?03:26
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jrib!defaultapp > ben__ (see the private message from ubotu)03:26
dresdenok i read the ubuntu help page about NTFS, and i ran the program and enabled write support for external drives, now how do i mount the external NTFS drive?? can somebody just give me the right command??03:26
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geniiAkoviem: If you have the symptoms i described when using alternate  cd try what i just suggested to Floyd03:26
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sgtmattbakerHello, I think I am having problems with Ubuntu and my new 8800 GTS videocard. here for details please : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33226/plain/03:26
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FloydFangenii: sure ok thanks ;)03:27
ben__thanks03:27
Aye|Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..03:27
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kripple hmm i got non of those  players for my ubuntu03:27
jribdresden: I thought ntfs-3g would just set that up for you03:27
dresdeni didnt see ntfs-3g any thing03:27
jribkripple: by default ubuntu has totem, it's  applications -> multimedia -> totem03:27
linux_Stormx2 , didnt find03:27
dresdenit just told me on that URL how to enable NTFS, it sais its built in to ubuntu??03:27
FloydFansipior: well semi worked.. got to desktop but unusably slow and actually stoped03:27
Stormx2linux_: Look harder03:27
jribdresden: the link I gave you is about ntfs-3g though03:27
dresdenok let me look at it again03:28
dresdenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions ???03:28
geniidresden: Ubuntu can read but not write to ntfs without ntfs-3g. to write, you need that package03:28
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gcostello!defaultapp > gcostello03:28
sipiorFloydFan: any unusual hardware? recent motherboard or graphics card?03:28
dresdenok thanks how do i get the 3G driver?? i dont see a link on that page03:28
anandanbugenii: can you help mw with this i have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in ubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png03:28
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jrib!ntfs-3g03:29
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions03:29
Stormx2dresden: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config && sudo ntfs-config03:29
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geniianandanbu: I'll look at it. 1 minute03:29
ben__jrib: VLC isn't in the list of applications to add as a movie-opening program03:29
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jribdresden: my mistake, let me find you the right link.  ubotu is out of date03:29
dresdenthere is no link to install NTFS-3G at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions ????/03:29
dresdenthanks03:29
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jribben__: use a custom command then03:29
dresdennot your mistake its tyhe bots fault03:29
ben__OK. I'm new to that...03:29
Stormx2Sure that VLC is installed?03:29
dresdenthank you so much for helping me03:29
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anandanbugenii: thanks for that03:29
FloydFansipior: well... not really. new emu 1212m sound card. Geforce 5200 video03:29
ben__Stormx2: I can open it03:29
geniianandanbu: It looks like maybe you put /media/sdb1 for the thing to mount instead of the point to mount it at03:30
linux_Stormx2 , can you tell me the name ?03:30
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Aye|Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..03:30
Stormx2dresden03:30
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dresdenhi stormx203:30
FloydFansoundcard could conflict with my onboard but i disabled that in bios03:30
Stormx2dresden: The page ubotu linked you to is fine.03:30
anandanbugenii: then how to i recover it03:30
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dresdenit does not have a download link stormx203:30
oranyemr. niceguy03:30
dresdeni need adownload link for ntfs-3G03:30
gh0stCan anybody direct me to a decent, virtually problem-free tutorial on how partioning a drive to Dueal-Boot wotih Windows Vista Basic and Ubuntu (FF)?03:30
sipiorFloydFan: and do other live cds give the same problems (knoppix, for instance?)03:30
geniianandanbu: should be mounting device  /dev/sdb1 into dir /media/sdb1.  Just re-run the program03:31
Stormx2dresden; What? It doesn't need to give you one.03:31
jribben__: k https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions is the right link, it must have gotten updated.  See the section about "Installing NTFS 3G Driver".  YOu need to install the ntfs-config package and then go to applications -> system tools -> ntfs configuration tool.  Did you do this?03:31
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Stormx2dresden: Follow the instructions under "Installing NTFS 3G Driver"03:31
FloydFanno  i run knoppix, backtrack, mandriva, dsl03:31
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ben__jrib: wrong person03:31
jribben__: that was meant for dresden :/03:31
ben__:)03:31
anandanbugenii: how to do it im a n00b03:31
dresdeni typed in "audo apt-get install ntfs-config" and it said up to date03:31
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geniianandanbu:eg:  sudo ntfs-config03:31
dresdeni followed the instructions!!!! a03:31
sipiorFloydFan: bizarre. maybe try an older version for the install, and then updating?03:31
dresdeni didnt downlod any thing!!03:31
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Stormx2dresden: Well, run ntfs-config then, as per the page03:32
geniianandanbu: Close the open window running it first tho03:32
dresdenOHH i need to run the config??03:32
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Stormx2dresden: So? That means you already have the necessary driver.03:32
dresdenim sorry i thought config just worked on its own03:32
FloydFansipior: i was thinking on that.. i researched the bug and it seems pretty common03:32
anandanbugenii: in that both the options are selected03:32
Stormx2dresden: Nah, you need to enable it.03:32
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dresdeni used the program as SU and enabled it.....i still cant write!!03:32
RARAdfoieifoqwerf03:32
anandanbugenii: still iam not able to mount the drive03:32
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dresdendo i need to unmount and remount??03:33
ben__Sorry, bit of a noob here. Where would VLC's program file be installed? I'm trying to write that custom command03:33
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RARAhi ALL03:33
Stormx2dresden: No. Just follow the page ubotu linked you to.03:33
cjaehello03:33
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Xorisben__: dpkg -L vlc03:33
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dresdeni already followed the page, but i plugged my USB HDD in before that, do i need to unmount and remount it??03:33
dresdenbecause its not working03:33
ben__cehers03:33
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ben__cheers03:33
geniianandanbu: Please pastebin results of the command:  sudo fdisk -l03:33
Stormx2ben__: The command is "vlc"03:33
howlingmadhowiedresden: sounds like a good ida03:33
howlingmadhowiedresden: s/ida/idea03:33
RARA#JOIN MAKASSAR03:33
linux_who know the name of the emulator?03:33
cjaehey trying to perl script for decoding 3wplayer .avis how do I make the script work03:33
dresdenOK how do i umount a USB HDD?03:34
krippleok i still can't get a player on this version03:34
dresdenwhats s/ida/idea03:34
krippletotem is not here03:34
kripple i want vlc anyway03:34
genii!paste | anandanbu03:34
ubotuanandanbu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:34
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jribkripple: did manage to enable universe?03:34
sipiorlinux_: i think you want pcsx, i don't know03:34
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Stormx2dresden: Meh, it should work without remounting.03:34
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Stormx2dresden: ntfs-config remounts automatically, I think03:34
anandanbugenii: wait a sec i'll03:34
speaker219is anyone here/03:34
jribdresden: try pressing "reload" in nautilus maybe03:34
dresdenstrange03:34
sipiorspeaker219: nope03:34
dresdenwheres reload at?03:34
Stormx2speaker219: No one.03:34
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speaker219i need help guys, is it possible to adjust screen brightness?03:35
speaker219without using the Fn keys03:35
jribdresden: toolbar at the top somewhere03:35
dresdeni dont even know what nautilus is sorry03:35
Stormx2speaker219: Look in your monitor's manual.03:35
dresdenohhh ok03:35
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anandanbugenii: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33230/03:35
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speaker219i have a laptop03:35
dresdennautilus is the file explorer huh?03:35
cjaehey trying to use perl script for decoding 3wplayer .avis how do I make the script work tried creating empty file03:35
geniianandanbu: OK reading03:35
speaker219on windows, there was an intel app that would adjust the brightness/contrast03:35
speaker219is there one for linux03:35
jribdresden: right03:35
cjaeand making executable and put it in usr/bin03:35
Xorisspeaker219: which laptop03:35
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RARAfuck nyou03:35
speaker219Dell inspiron 113003:35
dresdenok i will try again guys03:35
RARAfuck you all03:36
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str1hi,  is it safely possible to move free space from my /home partition to /data partition  ?    using feisty and reiserfs filesystem on all partitions03:36
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dresdenand you guys thought i was bad03:36
sipiorRARA: thanks, come again soon!03:36
Aye|Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..03:36
geniianandanbu: Well, there is perhaps the problem :) sdb2 is not a NTFS partition. only adb1 and sdb5 are03:36
geniisdb1 rather03:36
sipiordamn, jrib, you need to ban him *after* the witty rejoinder! don't you learn that in moderators school? :-)03:37
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speaker219the laptop is a B130/113003:37
dresdenhey it did not work, i unmounted the drive and mounted it, still wont let me write to NTFS!!!03:37
geniianandanbu: sda1 and sda5 more like. Need coffe, pls excuse typos on occasion :)03:37
dresdenits an external USB HDD (NTFS)03:37
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speaker219i need to know if there is a program on linux that can modfiy the brightness03:37
anandanbugenii: then what should i do03:37
str1Ayel:  KDE used to crash everytime on startup when i had my booted from an old PCI card (BIOS setting)... i made the default boot card my ATI AGP and it worked fine03:37
sgtmattbakerI have some issues, can someone help?03:37
sgtmattbakerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33226/plain/03:37
sgtmattbakerthanks03:37
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dresdenwow sgt thats a nice card03:38
Stormx2dresden: Did you properly use ntfs-config, on the correct device, enabling write support, yeah?03:38
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sgtmattbakerdresden: not when it isnt working right03:38
dresdeni just checked the box and clicked APPLY stormx203:38
Stormx2!enter | sgtmattbaker03:38
ubotusgtmattbaker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:38
jribsipior: heh03:38
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Xorisspeaker219: try ddccontrol (or gddccontrol), or acpi-support if that fails03:38
dresdeni mena OK03:38
dresdeni just checked the box and clicked OK03:38
dresden"enable write support for external device"03:38
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dresdendid i do something wrong?03:38
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geniianandanbu: If you are trying to mount the second hd there, don't use ntfs, it is vfat filesystem on it.03:39
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Stormx2dresden: Did you select the correct device?03:39
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dresdeni dont know how to select a device with the tool Stormx203:39
anandanbugenii: i had to mount a USB pen drive thats it03:39
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geniianandanbu: If you are trying to mount a partition on first hd like sda1 or sda5 then you can use the ntfs-config on those03:39
riaal_.tar is not compressed?03:39
dresdenStormx2 the tool simply has a checkbox, i dont know how to select a device03:39
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anandanbugenii: tell me what should i do to solve the problem then03:40
dresdenwhen i try to write it sais i dont have hte permission03:40
sgtmattbakercan anyone help?03:40
dresdenand i cant change the permission03:40
unitheoryriaal_, no, dont think so03:40
Stormx2dresden: Ah yeah...03:40
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Aye|Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..03:40
dresdeni went to the drives properties and it wont let me change permission03:40
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dresdenhow do i select that drive specifically with the NTFS tool?? its only has 2 checkboxes????03:40
Stormx2dresden: Enable write support for both Internal and External devices, just in case ubuntu is seeing your device as internal03:40
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anandanbugenii: can you please tell me what should i do to solve the problem then03:41
dresdeninternal is greyed...03:41
chikitahello, i cant generate characters like ~ with alt+126 or any alt+ combination whatsoever, what can i do to fix it?03:41
dresdeni cant stormx2, internal is grey03:41
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geniianandanbu: Please do:  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab then pastebin the file , i will give you some edits to make that may work03:41
Stormx2dresden: Ah. Okay, are you sure you don't have permission? Go into the drive and try to rename a file.03:41
dresdenok let me try03:41
cjaecan someone pls tell me how to make a perl script work I am not a programmer03:41
dresdeni cant do any thing stormx203:41
dresdenall the options are grayed, if i cahnge something or add something it sais i do not have permissions03:42
sgtmattbakerdo you think my issue can be this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/80535  specifically my videocard having incompatibilities with feisty i.e. not the closed source nvidia driver installed?03:42
jribchikita: you can use ctrl-shift-u  unicode number03:42
Stormx2dresden: uhg. I hate to recommend it, but maybe you could try rebooting?03:42
geniianandanbu: Also the uuid that command: sudo blkid  produces for /dev/sdb1 may be needed03:42
dresdenok should i leave hte USB device connected StormX203:42
Stormx2dresden: Yeah.03:42
dresdenok i will reboot and get back to you!03:42
MeRodentany advice on using a GeForce 8800 GTS with ubuntu?03:42
dresdenthanks brb03:42
SORMANOVi cant mount my sony memory stick card, dmesg tell me: [ 1641.864000]  tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:003:43
howlingmadhowieStormx2: why is he rebooting?03:43
anandanbugenii: wait for a while i'll do that03:43
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geniianandanbu: I am being called away for work, will not be immediately responding but i am still here and assisting, please be patient :)03:43
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geniiAFK 5-7 minutes (max)03:44
anandanbugenii: thats ok03:44
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anandanbugenii: here it is for the fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33231/03:44
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Stormx2howlingmadhowie: Can't get write support on an external ntfs device. Umount/mount has no effect, ntfs-config is doing nothing, etc03:45
aimanhi03:45
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zodershej03:45
zoders;] 03:45
dresdenhi you fixed it thank you soooo much!!!!!03:45
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dresdeni now have my 199GB volume on my desktop thanks :)03:45
npnufuwhat is the module that handles usb media.03:45
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npnufuI would like to disable it.  How can I do it?03:46
dresdenare you there??03:46
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dresdenit works thanks03:46
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YBH_1npnufu disable USB in your BIOS03:46
sgtmattbakergrrr, someone answer03:46
howlingmadhowiedresden: and we're very happy for you :)03:47
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YBH_1sgtmattbaker repeat ?03:47
dresdenheheh03:47
linux_someone have list of all synaptic cool games ?03:47
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sgtmattbakerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33226/plain/ I have an issue with my 8800GTS videocard I think in relation to Ubuntu03:47
npnufuYBH_1; no alternative?  there should be a module that handles this.03:47
dresdeni have 1 more fianl problem, its the only problem i think i will have now!!! :) when i go to nvidia-settings (in console) and change my resolution to 1360, it does not stick , i have to do this every time i reboot my computer! what can i do?03:47
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zodershej ;] 03:47
Xoris!games > linux_03:48
zodersups...sory to nie kana polski03:48
Alloos1Hi, Iam a web developer, anyway, I have a script that upload files to directory first had problem with uploading because of the permissions, so I canged it in terminal to 0777 and I uploaded the file (image), when I opened the folder where the image is, I so that the image is locked, and I cant open it, and it shows that the owner in www-data, how to change the owner to be every one?03:48
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howlingmadhowiedresden: you are clicking on "save settings to xorg.conf" or whatever it's called?03:48
dresdeni did that and it still does not stick after reboot03:49
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sipiorsgtmattbaker: i don't think your partition corruption issues can be traced to the graphics card. i must confess i03:49
dresdenit always boots up in 1024 instead of 136003:49
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Stormx2Alloos1: The owner on the FTP server, or your local machine?03:49
howlingmadhowiedresden: can you have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and check that it actually is saving the settings there?03:49
dresdenok i can03:49
sipiorsgtmattbaker: i'm a little concerned: i just got a 8800GTS for my new system, and was going to install ubuntu tonight :)03:49
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nuyaoAlloos1: you could use chmod in your script03:49
chikitajrib, thanks it works but its kinda complicated, do u know if linux supports alt + any number to generate characters like windows does?03:49
sgtmattbakersipior: I know, but wat about my system beep, and the glitchy things at the BIOS?03:49
dresdenwhat command do i use howlingmadhowie03:49
linux_OMG quake arena 3 is free in linux ?03:49
jribchikita: I don't know03:49
dresdeni have the command written some where...03:50
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LieutenantQuestion: I'm Running KDE on Ubuntu 6 and i have no Resolution settings, any help is greatly appreciated.03:50
sipiorsgtmattbaker: possible. is the system adequately ventilated for this card? it draws ~100 watts peak.03:50
Alloos1Stormx, I know I can use chmod in the script, but I want to be able to see the image, Iam testing my applications that way.03:50
YBH_1sgtmattbaker you need a driver for your video card for linux. I don't know if there is one avaialable, video card drivers can be a b*tch in Linux03:50
Stormx2Alloos1: 777 isn't a fix-all permission, you know. Stick to 644 for most things.03:50
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chikitaok, ty anyway03:50
howlingmadhowiedresden: try "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" you won't be able to edit the file, but you should be able to check if it's okay. paste it to pastebin, if you want03:50
dresdenthats it thanks howling !03:50
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ShayeIf for example I downloaded eggdrop by using "apt-get install eggdrop", where does the file being downloaded to?03:51
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s0cratesHello I am having some trouble with my wireless card and wanted to know if I could find some help here03:51
gcostelloShaye: /var/cache/apt/archives03:51
dresden!pastebin03:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:51
Stormx2Shaye: It downloads an archive (.deb), unpacks it, installs it to a specified location, and runs any necessary scripts, then deletes the .deb it downloaded.03:51
sipiorsgtmattbaker: the heat might be problematic for the system, and would result in strange behaviour03:51
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Shayewell then basically how do i use the eggdrop now heh03:51
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Shayei mean where do i find the files03:52
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YBH_1Shaye try man eggdrop ?03:52
dresdenhowlingmadhowie , my xorg config is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33233/ , i may have messed it up and thats why its not working ??? (because i played with it before i learned how to launch nvidia-settings)03:52
dresdeni never did get my xorg config to do any thing other than 102403:52
YBH_1$ man eggdrop03:52
sgtmattbakerYBH_1: so do you think the system beep was saying that the standard driver on the LiveCD isnt gonna work well with the 8800GTS?  It started the continuous system beep when I told the LiveCD to restart03:52
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YBH_1on a command line03:52
Stormx2Shaye: Under synaptic, locate it, right click > properties > installed files. I'm sure there's a command-line shortcut tho03:52
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sgtmattbakerI have a 550 watt psu03:52
s0cratesI have a broadcom wireless card and the kernel seems to want to load it. in dmesg I get an error that says "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available03:52
gcostelloShaye: dpkg -L eggdrop will list all the files installed by the package03:52
Alloos1how am I supposed to upload stuff is the permiossion is 644?03:52
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Stormx2Alloos1: An FTP client?03:53
s0cratesor not able to load03:53
sipiorsgtmattbaker: also, have you seen this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=313713603:53
sipiorsgtmattbaker: the issue is not power supply, it is heat mitigation :)03:53
howlingmadhowiedresden: yeah, it hasn't got the right video modes in there03:53
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LieutenantQuestion: I'm Running KDE on Ubuntu 6 and i have no Resolution settings, any help is greatly appreciated.03:53
dresdencan you help me fix it howlingmadhowie!!!03:53
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YBH_1sgtmattbaker plenty off power for your PC and card03:53
dresdeni probably messed it up liek i said03:53
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YBH_1off = of03:54
dresdeni tried to revert it but i dont know if i did it right or not03:54
hersheyneed some help03:54
Alloos1Iam not uploading using ftp. Iam developing php mysql application, so I need to be able to browse the images folder, and by the way, is there a way to change the terminal background to be black and the font white?03:54
sipiorsgtmattbaker: is this a new card, btw?03:54
howlingmadhowiedresden: that i can. shut the gedit window, log in as root (sudo -i) and open the file with: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:54
dresdenhowlingmadhowie yes im pretty usre i reverted it right, that should be my original xorg...please help me insert 1360 properly03:54
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dresdenok will do03:54
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sgtmattbakersipior: yes it is like 2 days old03:54
hersheyhelp plz03:54
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gcostelloAlloss1: which terminal are you using?03:54
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Stormx2Alloos1: Edit > Profiles under gnome-terminal03:54
s0crateshello, where can I see the modules that my kernel is trying to load03:55
Alloos1ubuntu terminal03:55
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s0cratesin feisty03:55
hersheyi need help with ubuntu 7.0403:55
YBH_1Alloos1 what kind of terminal. a linux command line terminal or a X terminal window03:55
ari_stressgood evening03:55
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Stormx2Alloos1: You shouldn't need to mess with permissions if you're web deving, especially if you're developing locally. Why are you trying to?03:55
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hersheyso i installed virtualbox on for feisty and now it gives me some error03:55
sgtmattbakersipior: but why would I only get a system beep when restarting from the livecd?  I have 3 or 4 case fans, and a huge zalman CPU fan with a 5" diameter03:55
sipiorsgtmattbaker: do you have on-board video to test with?03:55
hersheyhelp plz plz!!!03:55
sgtmattbakersipior: no03:55
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Stormx2hershey: How can we help when you don't give the error...03:55
hersheygood point03:56
s0cratesStormx2: I gave the error, and no one helps anyways.03:56
dresdenhowling i opened it with nano03:56
sipiorsgtmattbaker: then cooling is probably not an issue, but of course i don't know the details of your system a priori03:56
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dresdenhowlingmadhowie , i opened it with nano03:56
Stormx2s0crates: Maybe no one knows the solution?03:56
YBH_1sgtmattbaker you have driver issues in windows and linux03:56
howlingmadhowiedresden: okay. scroll down the file with the arrow keys until you see the line:  Section "Screen"03:56
sipiorsgtmattbaker: you might consider plugging in an older card to get going, installing the latest nvidia drivers and reinstall03:56
hersheyerror says, 'please run package manager from the right-click menu or apt-get on a ternal to see what is wrong...03:56
wizohey, if i apt-get installed freeglut3, what should the headers be for compiling glut.h in my code?03:57
s0cratesStormx2: I think it's pretty straight forwards, just not used to the ubuntu sys03:57
Lieutenanti'v stated my error twice, and no responce03:57
Stormx2hershey: That isn't the entire error. Could you pastebin all output?03:57
Stormx2!paste | hershey03:57
ubotuhershey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:57
akossn,03:57
dresdenok im scrolling howlingmadhowie03:57
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howlingmadhowiedresden: then scroll down further until you see the line: Depth 2403:57
akosI am making some patch for gaim, for the emoticon pack. I made the .diff patch with diff -urN, but there are some images in the new tree that don't exist in the old one. diff outputs some messages about binary file new/x does not match old/x. (but old/x does not exist). Should I leave them there, or just remove the lines?03:57
akos* fireba11 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))03:57
npnufudoes any one know which module handles USB media in Feisty.03:57
akossorry about the 2nd line03:57
s0cratesStormx2: maybe you can look :  I have broadcom wireless, my kernel tries to load a .fw that doesn't exist at startup.03:57
dresdenokay i found it03:57
Alloos1stormx, Iam developing a php script where people can upload images, so the images will go to images folder located  at var/www/site/images to be able to upload I had to change the images folder permission to 777, and thats fine, now when I go to the images folder I see the picture I uploaded as locked, but I need to be able to change it in the images folder03:57
dresdenok im looking for Depth 2403:57
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dresdenfound depth 2403:57
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howlingmadhowiedresden: now, in the line after "Depth 24" you can see various modes (1024x768...)03:58
hershey<type'exceptions.SystemError'>(E:The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.)03:58
dresdenyes03:58
wizoi tried doing #include <GL/glut.h> and #include <glut.h> but they don't work03:58
dresdeni can03:58
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dresdeni see 1024, 800, 64003:58
howlingmadhowiedresden: add the mode you want at the start of the list03:58
dresdenoverwrite the 1024??03:58
howlingmadhowiedresden: add a new entry03:58
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dresdenok03:58
Stormx2Alloos1: Firstly, this is a PHP issue, so you should be in ##php. Second, it will be uploaded under your httpd user (that's what handles the upload). Thirdly, you may need to chmod() it to 644 in PHP03:58
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dresdeni want 1360x76803:59
sgtmattbakerwhy would a driver issue make my pc do a continuous system beep when restarting from the feisty livecd?  also, why would there be graphical glitches at the BIOS screen.. that doesnt make any sense03:59
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howlingmadhowiedresden: then modify it as seen here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33234/03:59
dresdenthanks i was going to ask03:59
LieutenantKDE doesn't give me resolution settings, GNome does04:00
AviAtriXcan some one help me confugure beryl ?04:00
dresdenyes i was doing it wrong lol04:00
AviAtriXpm me04:00
YBH_1your BIOS isn't set up to handle that type of graphics card. you will need to do some research on your card. try google.com for a search04:00
dresdenthank you howlingmadhowie let me do it now04:00
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Alloos1stormx, I think I got what you mean here, sorry, but iam new to ubuntu, and the thing is that, I want to get very familiar with it, because Iam going to convence my clients to use it for their server.04:00
sgtmattbakermaybe this is related? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/8053504:00
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howlingmadhowiedresden: then save the file with ctrl-o and quit nano with ctrl-x04:00
hershey<type'exceptions.SystemError'>(E:The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.)04:00
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hersheythat the error i get04:00
dresdenok will do04:00
Stormx2AviAtriX: No, ask your question in #ubuntu-effects unless you have some mandate to use PMs.04:00
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dresdenthis will take me a bit i will try to make sure i dont mess it up!!04:00
sipiorsgtmattbaker: the graphical glitches at the bios screen are anotehr matter. i thought we were talking about the blank screen later?04:00
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hersheyanyone kno what i can do about this error message... <type'exceptions.SystemError'>(E:The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.)04:01
Lieutenantis anyone going to tell me something? i need assistance04:01
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sgtmattbakersipior: yeah I dont care about edgy, I know that is a driver issue.  I care about the continuous system beep when I hit restart while in teh feisty livecd and it only stops beeping when it gets to the BIOS screen04:01
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Stormx2Alloos1: This isn't an ubuntu-specific issue. This is to do with *nix systems in general and PHP.04:02
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Alloos1hershy, get the archive from the source.04:02
sgtmattbakeralso, the BIOS glitches04:02
YBH_1sgtmattbaker: http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/mtarchive/embarrassingly_high_end_video.html04:02
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Alloos1stormx, I know, but thought I can ask here since Iam using ubuntu, thanks anyway04:02
taffy-nayIs there a way to collect the updates from the repo's and compile them onto a CD/DVD for install on machines that do NOT have internet/network access?04:02
hersheyhow do i do that Alloos1?04:02
sipiordoes either your motherboard or video card manual list possible causes for the system beep?04:02
Stormx2hershey: sudo apt-get remove virtualbox && sudo apt-get install virtualbox04:02
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sgtmattbakerwell04:02
Stormx2Alloos1: It's okay, I'm just letting you know really.04:02
dresdenargh i keep messing it up howlingmad04:02
JamesDSGRUB Error: Invalid System Disk04:03
dresdenis there an UNDO shortcut04:03
sgtmattbakerthere is nothing talking about a continuous bep04:03
sgtmattbakerbeep04:03
howlingmadhowiedresden: undo on nano? just shut the file with ctrl-x and open it again04:03
JamesDS can someone help me with the above GRUB error?04:03
dresdenargh i keep doing that lol04:03
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LieutenantHello? i need assistance.04:03
dresdenil just tpye the whole thing out next time04:03
YBH_1a continous beep by the BIOS means an error04:03
dresdeni was trying to copy and paste 1024 and change the numbers but i keep messing it up04:03
sipiorsgtmattbaker: might be worth contacting customer support. you said you had problems under windows as well? could the card be bad?04:03
sgtmattbakerthere is a "series of beeps" but that is at bootup, I only got it from the time I hit restart on the livecd until it got to the bios screen04:04
Shayewhy when i try to ./configure eggdrop it says access denied while i am logged as root04:04
ariusIt is probably a stupid suggestion, but as xchat brought me here, check the power lead to your video card. This can cause pre-bios beeps, although it is usually accomanied by a "plug me in" message.04:04
Alloos1Hershy, the best way is to what I do, look in ubuntuforums.org, and you should find a thread explaining how to install your software, so follow it because they provide the source, and I think that you would be interested in ubuntuguide.or also, you can get great stuff there, actually I managed to install many stuff from there.04:04
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taffy-nayIs there a way to collect the updates from the repo's and compile them onto a CD/DVD for install on machines that do NOT have internet/network access?.04:04
linuxorHI, how to convert avi or ogg to swf or flv ? thx04:04
ariusUse PS3Video9. That will convert to flv.04:05
Alloos1Hershly, here is a great one http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty04:05
Stormx2Alloos1: Meh, compiling from source is something that should be avoided under ubuntu unless you need to.04:05
YBH_1sgtmattbaker have you tried to reinstall the graphics card, it may not be seated properly in the slot.04:05
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sipiortaffy-nay: sure, they're generally collected in /var/cache/apt/archives04:05
hersheythanks Alloos104:05
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JamesDSGRUB Error: Invalid System Disk - help??04:06
arius:o PS3Video9 doesn't appear to have a *nix version, apologises.04:06
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dgjonesLieutenant, it might be worth posting your query again, the channel is scrolling fairly quickly and might be missed, if you don't get an answer, perhaps try again after 15 minutes or so04:06
dresdenOK howlingmadhowie , i pressed CTRL+O and then i clickedh te X  on the top right to close04:06
Shayewhy when i try to ./configure eggdrop it says access denied while i am logged as root04:06
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wizook.. anyone knows where the libraries for glut is stored?04:06
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Alloos1Stormx. Yes I know, but his software is not included, so its best to get it from the sources provided at the ubuntu sites, because they provide great info.04:06
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LieutenantQuestion: I'm Running KDE on Ubuntu 6 and i have no Resolution settings, any help is greatly appreciated.04:06
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Stormx2Shaye: You should be running ./configure as root.04:06
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dresdenit didnt save it i think i did it wrong Howlingmadhowie lol04:06
jribShaye: eggdrop is packaged in ubuntu's repositories, no need to compile it04:06
dresdenlet me try again!04:06
nr4g3dis there any difference between cp /dev/null to a file and to rm -f a file?04:06
YBH_1JamesDS boot from the liveCD and examine your disk04:06
ShayeStormx2 i know i should ;s04:06
Stormx2Shaye: Sounds like you need to make the file executable. chmod +x configure04:06
taffy-naysipnor: is it easy to just bundle them onto a CD/DVD and then tell the other machine to use onle the CD as an install sourde?04:07
howlingmadhowiedresden: ctrl-x to close :)04:07
dresdenok04:07
Alloos1by the way, can some one tell me how to find a machine in my network, I have xp machine that I cant see in ubuntu while I can see ubuntu in the xp04:07
bentob0xI can't seem to install apache2 on my machine04:07
ZombieWerewolfAnyone know of any First Person Shooters for Ubuntu that support a gamepad?04:07
JamesDSYBH_1: Thanks for helping, this error shows when booting into Win ME04:07
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howlingmadhowiedresden: did it complain after you entered ctrl-o?04:07
Shayedamn Stormx2 it worked04:07
YBH_1http://www.google.com/search?q=8800GTS+video+problems&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=104:07
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Lieutenantwhoever can help me, PM me please, this fast scrolling is to much for me to keep up with.04:07
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Shayewhy can't i know as much as u do ;p04:07
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bentob0xI run sudo aptitude install apache2 and it seems to download and then nothing04:07
Alloos1bentobox, sudo apt-get apache204:07
dresdenhowlingmadhowie !!!!! Error writing /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied04:07
Stormx2Shaye: Wait, I mean _shouldn't_ be running it as root04:07
MenZaWhat do you mean "then nothing"?04:07
dgjonesLieutenant, i don't KDE, but I'd suggest asking in #kubuntu, you might stand a better chance of getting a response abouit KDE in there04:07
linuxorthx04:07
MenZaAlloos1: aptitude is correct.04:07
Stormx2Alloos1: You missed "install"04:08
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JamesDSYBH_1: Does this actually mean a disk error?04:08
Alloos1sorry04:08
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Stormx2!lamp | bentob0x04:08
ubotubentob0x: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:08
YBH_1yes, could be the boot sector of the HD04:08
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dresdenhowlingmadhowie i will try again maybe i wasnt SU or some thing04:08
bentob0xMenZa: after its' downloaded, there is no 'starting apache server' or someething04:08
AviAtriXplease help me fix beryl ..04:08
bentob0xand locahost doesn't work04:09
bentob0x*localhost04:09
YBH_1You may need to reinstall GRUB, also could be sector problems in the HD04:09
MenZabentob0x: try doing sudo /usr/sbin/apache2 start04:09
Stormx2AviAtriX: #ubuntu-effects04:09
MenZa!effects | AviAtriX04:09
ubotuAviAtriX: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects04:09
JamesDSYBH_1: The computer in question uses GRUB, boots into Ubuntu default, and has the option to boot into WinME04:09
AviAtriXno one answers04:09
howlingmadhowiedresden: yep. you need to be root to do that: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:09
Stormx2AviAtriX: Then wait.04:09
sgtmattbakerYBH_1 I will reinstall the videocard04:09
dresdenok thanks04:09
sipiortaffy-nay: well, you'd have to set them up as an apt repository for that. i don't recall at the moment which command sets that up, but i imagine other folks around here know it04:09
sgtmattbakerbe right back04:09
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Stormx2ooh04:09
bentob0xyou mean sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start MenZa?04:10
Stormx2there goes my panels, heh.04:10
Stormx2Gotta love upgrades.04:10
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AviAtriXStormx2: to waith what ?04:10
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MenZabentob0x: No, I mean what I say.04:10
Stormx2AviAtriX: Wait for someone to answer your question.04:10
MenZabentob0x: /usr/sbin/apache204:10
taffy-naysipior: thanks buddy, i just wanted to know if I could, google can do the rest of the work for me04:10
dresdenOK howlingmadhowie that worked!! now what?? how do i use it??04:10
fevelhello everyone :)04:10
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AviAtriXStormx2: ok ..04:10
Stormx2MenZa: Really? I've always used /etc/init.d/apache2...04:10
bentob0xI did, it returns Usage: /usr/sbin/apache2 [-D name]  [-d directory]  [-f file]  bla bla04:11
bentob0xwith options and stuff MenZa04:11
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MenZaStormx2: That's just a script, I normally just... do the binary.04:11
Stormx2bentob0x: Try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start04:11
MenZaStormx2: Force of habit.04:11
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wizohey guys, what do i have to install to get the include things in /usr/X11R6 ?04:11
dresdenhowlingmadhowie what do i do after i saved it04:11
bentob0xI did Stormx2, nothing happens, not even the 'starting apache' indication04:11
Lordi_2what's the best irc server to use with ubuntu?04:11
howlingmadhowiedresden: now see if it works. shut everything you're doing and log out and then back in again04:12
fevelis the panel the only place for trash??04:12
dresdenOK thanks04:12
MenZaLordi_2: search the repositories; apt-cache search ircd04:12
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Stormx2bentob0x: That usually means it has started :O You get nothing at http://localhost/ ?04:12
dresdeni will return04:12
MenZafevel: No, it's in /home/yournick/.Trash04:12
bentob0xnope, nothing Stormx204:12
Lordi_2MenZa:thanks :)04:12
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hersheyneed to find archive for virtualbox, help plz04:12
fevelMenZa, thanks ; D04:12
Stormx2bentob0x: Check the error log: /var/log/apache/error_log04:12
MenZafevel: np04:12
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bentob0xempty Stormx204:13
Stormx2bentob0x: Eek, I have no idea then!04:13
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MenZabentob0x: try removeing it (with --purge) and re-install it.04:14
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bentob0xI did try to remove with sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2, it did its job but the /etc/apache2 folder is still there04:15
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dresdenhowlingmad i rebooted04:15
Blauhautguys04:15
Blauhautselcuk@selcuk-laptop:~$ compiztools04:15
Blauhaut  File "/usr/share/CompizTools/compiz.py", line 2504:15
BlauhautSyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xc3' in file /usr/share/CompizTools/compiz.py on line 25, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details04:15
dresdenand it still does 1024 by default04:15
MenZabentob0x: remove it manually04:15
Blauhautwhat should i do ?04:15
bentob0xhow can I do that?04:15
dresdenhowlingmadhouse i rebooted and it still does 1024 bydefault!!04:15
MenZabentob0x: uh, sudo rm -rf /etc/apache2 ?04:15
chricke-heyadayo, i have a problem whit my gfx card when i install ubuntu.. anyone who can help me? :D04:15
peggerI am wondering how much CPU full disk encription uses up, anyone here use frull disk encription?04:15
Stormx2!paste | Blauhaut04:15
ubotuBlauhaut: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:15
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chricke-omg, sorry heyadayo.. i meant to say hey04:16
dresdenpegger please be specifci04:16
dresdenwhen writing encyrption?? huh04:16
BlauhautStormx2; can you help me ?04:16
MenZa!effects | Blauhaut04:16
ubotuBlauhaut: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects04:16
howlingmadhowiedresden:  i have an idea. one second.04:16
Stormx2Blauhaut: Well, do you understand the error or not?04:16
dresdenpegger encryption hardly uses CPU at all in my experience using truecrypt and other programs04:16
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chricke-ubuntu crashes when i have installed everything, then when i remove the live cd and try to start it.. then it dont work04:17
dresdenok howlingmadhowie04:17
bentob0xah you mean to remove the /etc/apache2 folder manually, but how would I know that the other apache2 bits of files are removed proprely everywhere on my system?04:17
Stormx2MenZa: It's not a compiz-specific error.04:17
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howlingmadhowiedresden: oh, btw. can you paste your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin so i can check it's okay?04:17
dresdenyes ok04:17
dresden!pastebin04:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:17
BlauhautStormx2; sorry but my english is not very good so i go the website that the error said but i can not understand anythink04:17
MenZaStormx2: It looks like a corrupt Compiz file.04:17
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chricke-finns det ngon svensk hr som kan hjlpa mig?? msg isf.04:17
dresdenhowlingmadhowie sorry i have to go i will be back online later i hope you are here!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my woman has arrived04:17
peggerdresden: I am looking at loading aes as a kernel moule and having the partitions mount at boot04:17
Stormx2MenZa: Looks like the same to me, but in other words it's just a corrupt config file...04:17
dresdensorry thank you so much for helping me04:17
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MenZaStormx2: .py? Config?04:18
dresdenwow thats too advanced for me im a noob pegger04:18
BlauhautStormx2;  do i need to setup python ?04:18
Stormx2MenZa: Sorry, I didn't mean config.04:18
peggerdresden: but yes I also use truecrypt on my USB memory stick and it works great04:18
howlingmadhowiedresden: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40003504:18
dresdenhowlingmadhowie so sorry ih ave to go il be back later ok04:18
Stormx2Blauhaut: No. Could you pastebin the file, please?04:18
dresdenthanks il open that now and go04:18
BlauhautStormx2; ok04:18
dresdenyeah i LOVE truecrypt04:18
howlingmadhowiedresden: okay. see you soon :)04:18
hersheyok cool i found the archive for virtualbox04:18
caneris there any program in linux like debug for ms-dos to view and alter bytes in memory and assembling , disassambling them. and showing the registers??04:18
dresdenil just be AFK ok04:18
peggerdresden: what kernel modules scare you04:18
hersheythanks alloo104:18
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dresdenim a noob i just dont understand what you said pegger lol04:19
dresdenthats what i meant04:19
dresdenAFK04:19
Stormx2caner: You need a hex editor, I guess. Look it up under synaptic.04:19
mon^rchbotsnack04:19
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Stormx2!botsnack04:19
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!04:19
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peggerdresden: you ever complile your own software?04:19
chricke-varfr krashar ubuntu hela tiden efter man installerat det, sger att grafiska grnssnittet inte fungerar.. hjlp mig ??!??04:19
dresdeni never did pegger04:19
Sonic1Mmm, compiling software, tastes good04:19
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dresdenbut i have to go now sorry, im away AFK04:20
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MenZa!se | chricke-04:20
ubotuchricke-: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se04:20
peggerdresden: well then there is a whole world to explore then04:20
wizoanyone has any idea on what i should install to get /usr/X11R6/include files? i need it urgently to do some openGL stuff04:20
MenZachricke-: titta da04:20
canerStormx2 : yes i have an hex editor. but is it possible to reach the registers or the memory through a simple hex editor?04:20
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Stormx2caner: Ah, i guess not. I'm not really sure, maybe ask in ##linux?04:20
sipiorcaner: ddd and gdb do these, i believe04:20
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tonyT_G_FarmerI have Boinc running and Xscreensaver keeps printing these messages that say "warning: only 0% idle over the last 10 secs (at XXX FPS)". Is there any way to turn them off? Maybe an option for the Xscreensaver command to hide the messages and not display them.04:21
osxdude|laptopcorrect04:21
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osxdude|laptopcorrect04:21
bentob0xhow come after an apt-get remove apache or apt-get remove apache2 I still have them in my system services?04:21
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canersipior : i know gdb. but dont know ddd is it a debugger too?04:21
bulmerbentob0x: try the purge option also04:21
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PelotonyT_G_Farmer, look up the error msg in the forum04:22
sipiorcaner: ddd makes use of gdb, among others. it's a nice debugger, you might find it useful04:22
RaD|TzCan anyone help me with this: W: GPG error: http://oss.oracle.com unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2E2BCDBCB38A851604:22
Pelobentob0x, only the apps have been removed the service list didn't get updated04:22
hersheydoes anyone here use beryl... can anyone recomment some other prog like it?04:22
ari_stress!aircrack04:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aircrack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:22
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Stormx2hershey: Try #ubuntu-effects04:23
bentob0xhow can I refresh that list Pelo04:23
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hersheythanks04:23
Pelobentob0x, reboot ?04:23
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Stormx2!botabuse | ari_stress04:23
ubotuari_stress: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...04:23
bentob0xah ok04:23
canersipior : ok. thank you. i will try it. i am new for assemly. sorry for my silly questns :)04:23
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sipiorcaner: that wasn't a silly question. i had to check to make sure ddd could do what you asked :-)04:23
tonyT_G_FarmerPelo: will do, thanks. Are you referring to resolving the error or just turning the message off. If i'm not mistaken, its just complaining about the CPU being at 100% which i'm ok with since i have Boinc running. I just don't want the messages to keep coming up over the screensavers04:23
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dromerdamnit, why won't twinview work on my pc :'(04:24
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PelotonyT_G_Farmer,  I know noting about the error you are getting but I am assuming you are not the only one and that others may have discussed it in the forum,  where you might find a resolution or at least an explanantion04:24
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tonyT_G_FarmerPelo: Thanks04:24
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h4L1mhello @ all04:25
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h4L1mdo anyone know how to install a cursor at ubuntu?04:25
chenchenI would like to file transfer to a server using SSH. May i know does ubuntu offer any GUI front end?04:25
PelotonyT_G_Farmer, I get why you get the message , which makes me think it's probably a common occurence04:25
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hersheyno one is really helping out in #ubuntu-effects04:26
Pelochenchen,  open up synaptic and do a search for ssh gui04:26
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erUSULchenchen: Places>Connect to Server ??04:26
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mon^rch!gftp04:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
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Pelohershey, not all channels are as busy as this one,  you may need to be patient or check in again at different times of day04:26
hersheyoh i see, thanks04:26
Pelo!info gftp | mon^rch04:26
ubotumon^rch: gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-16ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB04:26
mon^rchty04:27
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mon^rchhaha04:27
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pawanwhat is unix time04:27
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lostat_CHi. First how can I tell what version of Ubuntu I am using? I only have the XFCE desktop installed right now.04:28
Pelopawan, right click on the clock  prefts,  click the help button, there is an explanation tere04:28
Pelothere04:28
sipiorpawan: typically seconds from the epoch (1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 UTC)04:28
linux_how i can clear alt + f2 histary ?04:28
linux_history *04:28
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lostat_CIf I install Gnome Desktop will that have any effect on my speed and resources when I am in XFCE?04:28
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Junocan anyone tell me how to make Synaptic download from the net? it keeps asking me for a cd04:29
NedUSGood day.  I'm installing the server version of Ubuntu (and I'm a newbie to Linux to boot) and can't figure out how to install a desktop on the server version (KDE/Gnome, doesn't matter.)04:29
NedUSI attempted to install KDE yesterday - and it looked successful - but when I did a kdestart, it gave me errors.04:29
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mon^rchsudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:30
AngelEyes1701Thank the Gods allmighty! Is there anyone here who can help me? I just installed Ubuntu and it's not as easy adjusting to as I thought it would be.04:30
NedUSmon^rch - and how would I start it?04:30
lostat_CNedus you can use the terminal to install anything with the command 'sudo apt-get install PROGRAM HERE'04:30
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mon^rchstartx04:30
mon^rchNedUS: ^04:30
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NedUSexcellent.  Lemme take a crack at that.  Thank you.04:30
AngelEyes1701?04:31
riaal_Im having a problem and ppl in the bash channel really don04:32
sipiorAngelEyes1701: our telepathy server is down. perhaps you could describe your problem?04:32
erUSULAngelEyes1701: ask a specific question04:32
dgjonesAngelEyes1701, people won't know if they can help you until you say what problems you are having, ask your real question and see if anyone can help then04:32
erUSUL!anyone | AngelEyes170104:32
ubotuAngelEyes1701: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:32
NedUSooo - one more thing.  Most books I find on Ubuntu focus on a GUI desktop, but I'd really prefer a CLI - any suggested resource or will practically any UNIX book do?04:32
sipiorwell, that was excessive04:32
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riaal_Im having a problem and ppl in the bash channel really don't wanna help.. Anyone know the corrent syntax for:  if [ "$1" != 'remote' ]  && [ "$1" != 'local' ] ;then04:32
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riaal_correct04:33
lostat_CWe have a telepathy server!? My god if so I must be broken and I need service!04:33
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aaaahelo04:33
sipiorNedUS: for system administration? or general unix?04:33
aaaa04:33
NedUSat this point, I'd take either.  I've been doing DOS stuff for eons.04:34
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wizohey, how can i check if i have my drivers for my graphics card installed04:34
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BlauhautStormx2; http://rafb.net/p/mDOBCB97.html help me ?04:35
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sipiorNedUS: "UNIX for the Impatient" is good. The system administrator bible is Nemeth et al. "UNIX System Administration Handbook" excellent reference.04:35
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NedUSexcellent; I'll attempt to locate.  Thank you.04:36
Blauhauthttp://rafb.net/p/mDOBCB97.html can anybody lep me pls ?04:36
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mon^rch!kompozer04:36
ubotunvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.04:36
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mon^rch:(04:37
alesanhi. at boot x-session-manager hangs for about 2 minutes, sucking 100% cpu. is there any idea how to debug this, see what it is doing etc?04:37
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mon^rchkompozer rules... cant wait for it to be finished :P04:37
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Blauhauthttp://rafb.net/p/mDOBCB97.html anybody help me ?04:38
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dgjonesmon^rch, kompozer seems pretty good, i'm not sure whether there is anything for them to change on it, you can download it and install it and it seems to work fine04:39
_ting_hello04:39
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LieutenantQuestion: I installed KDE onto ubuntu 6.*** and the screen resolution is all wrong, i went into the control center to change it, and there is no setting for it, display is missing from under peripherals, Gnome has the setting, KDE doesn't04:39
Junohow do I get to a terminal and stop X?04:39
ubuntuEdgyhi dose any one know what the permision should be for apache files like /var/www04:39
erUSUL!fixres | Lieutenant04:39
ubotuLieutenant: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:39
nox-HandHow would I get Firefox to play Apple Trailers?04:40
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gi000why is my tv screen (dvb-t) sometimes only blue?04:40
bob255juno > sudo killall gdm will stop x04:40
Junothanks04:40
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Blauhauthttp://rafb.net/p/mDOBCB97.html anybody help me ?04:40
mon^rchdgjones: I already have it installed :P I am waiting for the finished version (so far the current ver puts a border around the images, they are fixing that)04:40
_ting_I was wondering if someboy has install a usb VoIp telephone ?04:40
gorrznox-Hand, you need a package with the quicktime plugins and such.. lemme find the name for ya04:40
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dgjonesmon^rch, ah rite, i've not had that problem with the bits i've done on it04:41
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nox-Handgorrz: Cheers04:41
_ting_I bought one two days ago, when i plug it in my computer ubuntu recognize it but it is not working, i need to isntall the driver,04:41
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mon^rchdgjones: http://gardenofeden.dyndns.org (kompozer made) ;)04:42
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_ting_but i can not find it for linux, but is there a way to just make that the micro works04:42
_ting_?04:42
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_ting_i am new in linux so..04:42
gorrznox-Hand, gstreamer0.10-plugins04:42
dgjonesmon^rch, I see what you mean04:42
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TreeStumphey04:42
nox-Handgorrz: Package gstreamer0.10-plugins is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:43
nox-HandThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:43
nox-Handis only available from another source04:43
TreeStumpdoes anyone know why i cant read my ext hdd in ubuntu lastest version? its NTFS04:43
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mon^rchdgjones: mon^rch nods04:43
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wizohow do i know which graphics drivers i should install for my graphics card04:43
gorrznox-Hand, try gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad04:43
gorrzwizo, whatcha got?04:43
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wizogorrz, geforce2 go04:44
ari_stressguys, do you notice that feisty startup is a bit delayed when "configuring network". it's about 45 secods04:44
linux_how i can clear alt + f2 history ?04:44
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pike_wizo: nvidia-glx-legacy04:44
nox-Handgorrz: Already got it :-/04:44
wizopike_, thank you04:44
ari_stresslinux_, it got history?04:44
TreeStumpdoes anyone know why i cant read my ext hdd in ubuntu lastest version? its NTFS04:44
wizopike_, how did you know that btw04:44
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pike_wizo: i had an older card about same version04:44
linux_ari_stress , yes of all the command that you have typed . . .04:45
gorrzwizo, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_setup_nVidia_drivers_in_7.0404:45
wizopike_, ah i see, thanks04:45
liuyanghello, how to confige hintstyle of kde program?, i need hintslight04:45
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mon^rchI wonder if there are stats somewhere where one can see the number of windows users that have been moved over to ubuntu...04:45
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dgjoneswizo, i second what pike_ said, i've got the same card and needed to use the legacy driver04:45
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gorrznox-Hand, got gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg04:45
wizothanks guys :D04:45
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Allooshguys, how can I check my computer fan ?04:45
wizoso all i have to do is to install that, and edit my xorg.conf file?04:45
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fyrestrtrAlloosh: open it up?04:46
mon^rchstick your finger in it :P04:46
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wizoand change the device to "nvidia" ?04:46
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CroXAnyone got experience with playing Diablo II using wine? I works for me on my laptop but on my stationary it just gives me a black screen and locks the entire computer up.. Allthough I can hear the videos play in the background.04:46
rosensturmHow do I change what swap partition gets mounted?04:46
hsaterais there an especific way to read nfo files in ubuntu04:46
nox-Handgorrz: Just installed it - I can play it now :D04:46
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gorrznox-Hand, word ^^04:46
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AllooshHAHAHAHA, funny, the fan is not working and I want to know if its hardware or software error04:46
gi000using 1280x1024 i cannot see anything from the dvb video stream, with 1024x768  it normally works. why?04:46
Frogzoo!appdb | CroX04:46
_ting_hi, is somebody using a VoIP phone in linux ?04:46
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ubotuCroX: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org04:46
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nox-HandThanks gorrz =D04:47
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mon^rch!ekiga04:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ekiga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
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CroXFrogzoo: What? How does that help me? I have gotten the game to work perfectly on my laptop (Ubuntu and wine too), but on my stationary it just wont work.04:47
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sipiorAlloosh: software error? that seems unlikely. swap out the fan with a replacement, see if that sorts it out04:47
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pike_!sip | _ting_04:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
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pike__ting_: hmm did you have a specific question?04:48
mon^rch!skype04:48
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto04:48
_ting_pike_:  which one are u using?04:48
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pike__ting_: any sip client. skype is a closed network04:48
sipiorAlloosh: also, make sure it is still connected to the motherboard...04:48
_ting_pike_:  i bough one a few days ago but i dont know how to installed04:48
pike__ting_: i use just a mic and my comp speakers04:49
_ting_ahh no04:49
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pike__ting_: bluetooth?04:49
pike__ting_: most phones are just mic and speaker04:49
_ting_i was asking if u r using a VoIP usb phone04:49
gordonjcp_ting_: depends on the phone04:49
gordonjcp_ting_: some just appear as a generic audio device, some don't work at all04:50
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_ting_the one that i bough is a usb one, and i can see it using lsusb, but i can not using04:50
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_ting_and i dont know how to install it04:50
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hsatera!google usb voip phone04:50
_ting_hsatera: i already did that04:50
_ting_if not i never bother you guys04:50
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Stormx2hsatera: just go to google.com04:51
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pike__ting_: you might get lucky if you do a google search like 'site:ubuntuforums.org phonemodel' but if its just an audio device someone here should be able to help04:51
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_ting_thanks pike_04:51
_ting_i will do it04:51
_ting_thanks everyone04:51
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pike_good luck04:52
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logixoulHiya - unplugging my net cable makes accessing http://localhost (Apache2) impossible. What gives?04:52
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wizopike_, i was reading the document.. and it said to run sudo nvidia-xconfig, but i tried and it says command not found04:52
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BrokenNubI burned Feisty64 to a CD, but I can't get it to boot04:52
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pike_wizo: it should be pulled in when you sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy04:53
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BrokenNubafter loading the kernel and such, it stops sending any data to the monitor, which turns itself off, and then everything stops04:53
PeloBrokenNub,  did you burn the data to a cd or did you burn an image to the cd ? not the same thing04:53
bob255logixoul > try pinging localhost to see if it definitely resolves to 127.0.0.104:53
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wizopike_, really? :s i just did apt-get isntall nvidia-glx-legacy =(04:53
BrokenNubPelo: I burned the image04:53
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PeloBrokenNub,  what is your video card ?04:53
logixoulbob255: yup, it does04:53
unagiis it possible to resize a partition of one dual booted os for another one to have without messing anything up?04:53
BrokenNubATI 1800 GT I think ?04:54
BrokenNubor something04:54
logixoulbob255: should I try pinging while disconnected too?04:54
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effie_jayxI need help with SAMBA. I set it up and I can see all the shared folders but when I try to access them "it says they can't be found, it might have been removed" :S04:54
Burhanunagi: no.04:54
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hsatera_ting_: do u have sype over there?04:54
wizopike_, do i really need it? can i just edit my xorg.conf file ?04:54
hsaterasudo apt-get install skype04:54
effie_jayxI know this is very strange error in Samba04:54
_ting_hsatera: yes04:54
bob255logixoul: yep, worth a try04:54
unagii cant shrink my ubuntu partition to give unallocated space and then expand the ntfs partition?04:54
logixoulbob255: k, brb then. thanks04:54
Burhanunagi: no04:54
PeloBrokenNub,  ati does not provide FOSS drivers so they are not part of the vanilla ubuntu,  you need to install using the alternate install cd and then install the proper video drivers afterwards04:54
unagiwhy not =(04:54
hsatera_ting_: in the configs, have u tried to set ur voip usb phone?04:55
pike_wizo: no you can setup xorg and stuff but go ahead and sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig   then run that other command04:55
_ting_yes04:55
hsateraand?04:55
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_ting_i selected usb phone, but it is not working04:55
hsaterais there any kind of error?04:55
hsateraor simply does'nt work?04:55
logixoulbob255: still the same - 127.0.0.104:55
cidcocan someone give me some direction on getting dual monitors to work with my ati card?04:56
Pelo!dualhead | cidco04:56
ubotucidco: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama04:56
Burhan!xinerama > cidco04:56
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_ting_hsatera: it just doesnt work04:56
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godzirraHowdy folks.04:56
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cidcoyjanks04:56
cidcothanks04:56
logixoulbob255: other ideas? should I maybe add a separate NetworkManager "device" (or whatever) to use while disconnected??04:56
luyijj04:56
wizoerr.. pike_, i did it, and it said that it backed up my xorg.conf file.. is that it?04:56
wizoand it wrote a new one in,04:57
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ggordonsmb.conf not set up right04:57
luyikk04:57
_ting_hsatera: this is what i got when i run lsusb: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 062a:9004 Creative Labs04:57
pike_wizo: yeah it makes a new one and backs old one up sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart now and test04:57
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wizopike_, alright thanks04:57
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mukiexWhy is it so (bad word)ing hard to share files with a Windows box?04:57
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bob255logixoul: afarid im not too sure04:57
ShayeWhen I try to run eggdrop it says i have an eror in line 270 on the config file, how do I get to that line? don't want to start counting now...04:58
logixoulmukiex: good question04:58
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logixoulbob255: ok, thanks anyway :)04:58
mukiexWhy does it insit on asking for a password for the (badword, diety-oriented)amn guest account?04:58
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Pelounagi,  I expect you can resize the / partiton to make some space available for other os, but  the space must be contiguous to the partiton you with to expand,  you will need to resize the  ubuntu partion, move it  so the unallocated space is in hte correct position and then extend the partiton you want to ,  you'll need to do this from the live cd04:58
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jkesslerwhat's the command for a command line traceroute?04:58
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mukiexWhy I can't I just turn that (male cow excrement) off?04:58
logixoulheh04:59
_ting_hsatera: how can i made test to a sound device ?04:59
_ting_never mind04:59
hsateradid u tried the skype test call?04:59
Pelomukiex, search the forum for no password or blank password, see if anyting comes up04:59
brumjkessler: traceroute04:59
Junowhat is the default root password?04:59
dxdtjkessler: you might need to install it or somet hing.04:59
revilodrawhow do i make my usb devices mount with me in supreme control and no restricitons?04:59
Junobecause I just locked myself out of root04:59
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dxdtJuno: is none by default, use sudo04:59
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unagiim not sure i understand moving a partition pelo05:00
Pelorevilodraw,  they should get mounted automaticaly to the current user05:00
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wizooh man05:00
wizoi knew this wouuld happen05:00
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Pelounagi, basicaly the same as resize but you move the start point05:00
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wizopike_, it displays a console on boot up.. when i type startx.. the screen goes really black05:00
BrokenNubmy burned copy of Ubuntu can't even check the CD for defects, it just stops midway through :(05:01
stuart87!grub05:01
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:01
revilodrawpelo; they do get mounted but the permissions play up... i wan absolute control05:01
hsatera_ting_: worked?05:01
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Junohow do I get X to write a log to a different file so I can post the errors I'm getting?05:01
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Pelorevilodraw,  change the owner to the current user   man chown05:01
Junoit always writes it to xorg.0.log05:01
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Pelounagi,  do you have gparted installed ? open it up so you see the hdd display05:01
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erUSULJuno: what's wrong with the default log file?05:02
_ting_hsatera:  i got the following error: "Call Failed: Problem with Auido Playback"05:02
BrokenNubnor can I boot in safe graphics mode :(05:02
revilodrawpelo; very much appreciate your help... how do i do that?05:02
Junowell... when i try to boot with my nvidia driver I get a lot of errors05:02
BrokenNubwhat the hell do I do to computers ?05:02
Junobut when i change back to VESA to start X it rewrites the log05:02
hsateratry the settings05:02
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Jack_SparrowBrokenNub: What program did you use to burn it?05:02
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_ting_yes i am playing with that05:02
Pelorevilodraw,   in the terminal  type   man chown   see the synatx to use the command to change the owner,  usualy someiting like   sudo chown /path  username05:02
Junothe NVIDIA driver says something about an incorrect kernel version05:03
hsateraset the audo device05:03
BrokenNubthe CD/DVD manager on my roommate's laptop05:03
BrokenNubburned at a slow speed too05:03
[ifr0g] Where could i find the latest bug fixes and advisories ?05:03
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unagipelo done05:03
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_ting_hsatera:  but i got a error when that error when i select the usb device05:03
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stuart87!compiz-decorator05:03
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hsateracan u say the model of the phone?05:03
dickilockd: are you there?05:03
dxdtJuno: are you trying to install the driver from Nvidia's website?  Because you shouldn't do that until you've tried to install it with sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx05:04
Jack_SparrowBrokenNub: I assume that is from Ubuntu correct... You might want to try right clicking the iso and write to dick.. it seems to give people fewer problems05:04
mukiexIt's still asking for a (jesus christ)king password >_<05:04
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Junoeh.. yes I was05:04
Junothen how do i go about removing the NVIDIA driver I have?05:04
wizoreally need help , after installing the legacy drivers and running that config program, it wont start up anymore05:04
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BrokenNubJack_Sparrow: yes, it was, that was basically what I did05:04
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Jack_SparrowBrokenNub: If you used cd/dvd manager that isnt the same.. but ok... How about checking the md5 checksum on the iso itself05:05
Pelounagi,  do you see the part that displays your hdd and the partitions on it ?   you can only resize partitions from the right  (ie move the end point),  so in order to  extent a partition the unallocated space must be to the contiguous to that partition and to the right of it,  so , after you have reduced a partition to make alloccated space you will need to move that partition and / or any other until the unalocated space is directly to the05:05
Peloright of the partiton you want to extend ,  get it ?05:05
_ting_hsatera: "Funky USB VoIP Internet Phone", I bought it in Maplin, so it is just a generic one, But it is based on a Creative Labs Chips05:05
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gordonjcp_ting_: I was looking at those, do they work?05:06
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unagioh i see05:06
_ting_gordonjcp: that is what i am trying to setup,05:06
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BrokenNuband apparently my onboard graphics doesn't work at all05:07
_ting_the point is that i am a newbie using linux so....05:07
unagiif everything is unmounted i just drag and drop the partition pelo?05:07
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Pelounagi,  but you need to do this from the live cd because you cannot have any partitions mounted and used while you are doing this05:07
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xZeddxHi. Im seeking help with a problem that I can't find using google, forums, etc. I tried removing the splash screen in gnome-session via gconf, but it tells me the key is read only despite running in sudo, reinstalling gnome-sessions, etc05:07
gordonjcp_ting_: does it show up in dmesg?05:07
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wizocan anyone help me? cause i cant go into the fluxbox session anymore after installing nvidia legacy drivers05:08
Jack_SparrowBrokenNub: The alt disk cna ofen get past those problems, but I also have a copy of Dapper that seems to work on anything05:08
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stuart87!ubuntu-desktop05:08
ubotuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.05:08
Bibleman_BillHello05:08
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Kaurhi05:08
stuart87hmmmm05:08
BrokenNubwhat should the md5 be  ? for 7.04 x64 ?05:08
Bibleman_BillCan some one help me with screensaver05:08
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Pelounagi, no drag and drop, a bit more demanding but not that much,    right click on a  partition in the list, see the  move / resize option  that is what you will be using ,  one step at a time,  basicaly , it may require you to check the info of various partiton and make notes of the end and start points but I thnk you can do it all graphicaly05:08
KaurI know this may sound a bit odd, but i need to run a 686 kernel on feisty...05:08
_ting_gordonjcp: sorry gordonjcp what you mean with dmesg?05:08
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gordonjcp_ting_: pop open a terminal, and type dmesg05:09
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_ting_ok05:09
gordonjcp_ting_: that's all the messages from the kernel05:09
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BrokenNubI got "a2b159599b69cea51371eee1ec5feda6  ubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso"05:09
erUSULKaur: why?05:09
_ting_thanks gordonjcp05:09
Jack_SparrowBrokenNub: Look where you d/l the disk.. I dont have it handy05:09
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Pelounagi,  make sure impotant data ia backed up and degrag and MS partitions before proceeding05:09
Bibleman_Billit wont show when its suppose too05:09
gordonjcp_ting_: you'll notice that if you do that before and then after you plug the phone in, it will blether on about finding a new USB device05:09
Kaur_ting_: because that is the only kernel where I can get frequency scaleng to work05:09
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Kaur_ting_: scaling05:10
xZeddxCan anyone please assist me with my problem?05:10
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Pelounagi,  one final pcs of advice,   apply each step individualy,  even if you have the option to plan them all out and apply all at once,  it will make things much easier05:10
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Kaur_ting_: I even flashed my BIOS but that didn't help... The modules won't load with generic05:11
stuart87Can someone please tell me how to make a partition bootable for GRUB to use?05:11
unagii just dont want to screw up linux05:11
Bibleman_Billrunning Mepis 6.0 on desktop dell optiplx05:11
_ting_that is the error that i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33245/05:11
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Jack_Sparrow!grub05:11
nox-HandHow would I turn off my DOS speaker in my laptop05:11
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Bibleman_Billhelp me please with screensaver why it wont run05:11
unagidos speaker?05:11
KaurerUSUL: because that is the only kernel where I can get frequency scaleng to work05:11
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:11
Lieutenantthanks to YBH_1, my monitor issues are resolved05:11
unagiyou mean your pc speaker?05:11
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revilodrawlove ubuntu, but the way it delas with usb devices is pretty bad... it has caused me problems and there is lots of forum action regarding it... all i want to do is have god-like power over my usb device, making me have permission to do whatever i want to it05:11
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Pelounagi,  there is no 100% garranties on this , you are messing with serious stuff but it's not all impossible to do05:11
Jack_Sparrownox-Hand: try the bios..05:11
_ting_thanks Kaur, i think that i will still use Windows to make the calls05:11
_ting_hehe05:11
unaginox-Hand: if you mean your pc speaker turn it off in the bios05:11
araizenhow can i find out what programs and/or files a package provides05:12
nox-Handunagi: That's the one05:12
nox-HandJack_Sparrow: Will have a looksie05:12
araizeni.e., the equivalent of 'rpm -ql packagename'?05:12
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xZeddxyou can turn your pc speaker off by blacklisting it05:12
krammerNeed help installing java05:12
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stuart87Jack_Sparrow: I got that, I have 3 OS's, and Grub cvan't find the Vista one!05:12
Pelo!java | krammer05:12
ubotukrammer: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre05:12
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Bibleman_Billnedd help with screensaver05:12
krammerDesktop/jre-6u2-linux-i586-rpm.bin. (error message)05:12
Kaurso... How can I install a 686 kernel on feisty?05:12
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txoofI restored an sql backup and inadvertantly overwrote the debian-sys-maint user.  When I restart the mysql process it complains that access is denied (no duh!).  I know how to change the password for the user, but I'm not sure how to inform mysqladmin of the new password.  Where does it store this?05:12
jribaraizen: dpkg -L PACKAGE05:12
httpdssim trying to migrate an m$ access database onto OO base ... or kexi ... and cant get the forms imported from the mdb. is there any way i can get this done ??05:12
Jack_Sparrowstuart87: Did vista go on first?05:13
araizenjrib: thanks05:13
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benitecsneed help with Wired05:13
unagivista should always go first05:13
revilodrawmy usb device is called M-ROBE... how do i completely own it and have fun permisssion?05:13
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stuart87Jack_Sparrow: yeah, Vista, Ubuntu, XP. In that order05:13
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Bibleman_Billhelp with screen saver05:13
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unagistuart87 start over05:13
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Kaurstuart87: ubuntu should have been the last05:13
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unagistuart87: vista, xp, ubuntu05:13
wizouh oh, i think my system is borked05:13
Bibleman_BillHey Jack_Sparrow  good to see ya05:14
Jack_Sparrowstuart87: Post your boot/grub/menu.lst  on the pastebin  someone will figure it out05:14
Burhanit should be xp, vista then ubuntu05:14
xZeddxNeed help with plash screen =05:14
xZeddxsplash*05:14
wizoafter changing from nvidia to nv in my xorg.conf, i can load my desktop again05:14
BrokenNubthere seems to be a number of people on the forums that have had problems installing the 64-bit version of Feisty ?05:14
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unagiokay....xp vista then ubuntu but ubuntu should be last05:14
unagiwizo.........want some advice??? back up xorg05:14
AngelEyes1701Hello. I've installed Ubuntu today for the first time as I am sick of Windows and now trying to change the screen refresh rate. Help?05:14
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Jack_Sparrowstuart87: It may be fixable as it is..05:14
Bibleman_Billcan you help me with screensaver Jack05:14
wizounagi, yea i backed up already05:14
xZeddxAngelEyes1701, xrandr in terminal05:14
unagi=)05:14
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BurhanBrokenNub: 90% of people that try to install 64 bit, really don't know why they are doing -- except to say that they are running 64 bit.05:15
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stuart87unagi: I know I should have done it that way, but I managed to get all 3 installed on different partitions, but now the slot that Vista had (hd0,0) has XP in it05:15
Pelowizo,  from the command line,   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  change it back restart05:15
AngelEyes1701Anyone?05:15
unagiluckily due to maya having some issues in linux i always have 2 compies05:15
KleRoihello, can someone tell me how do i change the DNS of my connections?05:15
KaurAngelEyes1701: computer-->preferences05:15
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unagistuart87: it would just be easiest to reformat and start from the beginning05:15
BurhanKleRoi: system > administration > networking05:15
xZeddxNeed help with splash screen prob05:15
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txoofWell, that's an awfully insecure system that the debian-sys-maint uses for storing the password.  L A M E.05:15
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wizoPelo, yea i have changed it from nvidia to nv now. but any idea why it's not working? i installed nvidia-glx-legaxy, and the nvidia config thing.05:16
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txoofthe sql password that is.  Why would the pacakage maintainers think it's a good idea to make the password of an all powerful sql user available in plain text?05:16
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sgtmattbakerhello I am back.  I took my 8800GTS out and put it back in05:16
KleRoioh, that was easy, thanks Burhan05:16
AngelEyes1701I also appear to be lagging insanely.05:16
Burhantxoof: maybe you should argue with mysql05:16
MariolinkWhat fily format should a linux partition be?05:16
Pelowizo,  no idea why it is not working, I was just giving you a way to change it back so you can get on with things while you figure it out05:16
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stuart87unagi: It took me AGES to get Ubuntu to work with 915resolution, and I had to compile a custom instal for XP because it didn't support my SATA controller. All out, I think it is easier to fix it05:16
BurhanMariolink: ext3 for ubuntu05:16
DBLUEWhy when i use "dpkg -i *deb", the packages are installing serial, not with some dependents order.05:16
wizo*groans*05:17
xZeddxI tried removing the splash screen in gnome-session via gconf, but it tells me the key is read only despite running in sudo, reinstalling gnome-sessions, etc05:17
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sgtmattbakerI am not getting the continuous system beep when I hit restart in the Ubuntu LiveCD, but I am still having jumpiness and graphical glitches in the BIOS05:17
wizothis always freaking breaks05:17
txoofBurhan: I think I need to send an email to the package maintainers.05:17
Mariolinkk thanks05:17
unagitrust me stuart87 ive been there before......its a pain to set up linux.......its going to be a pain to fix this05:17
Burhantxoof: I think the issue is with mysql, but you are free to send off emails.05:17
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unagistuart87: i  havent even fixed it for me..............grub doesnt load until after i get through MS bootloader....05:17
Bibleman_BillWill some one please help me05:17
Pelolater folks05:17
DBLUEAny answers05:17
revilodrawhow do i gget full control of my usb device?05:17
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Jack_Sparrowsgtmattbaker: Single continious beep is usually ram.... reseat your ram, or remove one of the chips if multiple are installed05:17
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Stormx2unagi: Sounds like grub wasn't installed to your master boot record.05:18
unagigrub was installed but i had to reinstall vista05:18
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Burhanunagi: you need to reinstall grub then.05:18
Burhanunagi: on your mbe05:18
txoofunagi: vista probably nuked grub.05:18
Burhans/mbe/mbr/05:18
Jack_Sparrowagreed05:19
DBLUErevilodraw, open the folder with gksudo nautilus /media/usb_devicename, the change permission nobody, nogroup05:19
unagiand since i couldnt figure out how to get grub reinstalled (i tried the guides) i just instald easy bcd05:19
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sgtmattbakerJack_Sparrow: when you are exiting the LiveCD it always does a single system beep, but once it did a continuous one.  It does not do it when the computer is booting05:19
savetheWorldsgtmattbaker: I second what Jack_Sparrow says.  To test your RAM use the memtest86 program.  Some system have it available through their boot menu, otherwise you may need to boot to a floppy or Cd that has it on it.05:19
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DBLUEHow to install many deb packages, with dependens check?05:19
Jack_Sparrowsgtmattbaker: Ok....05:19
Bibleman_Bill:=} Help Please05:19
DBLUEJack Sparrow?05:19
Stormx2DBLUE: Are you sure the packages aren't in the repos?05:20
unagiBurhan: have a good guide for that?05:20
txoofsgtmattbaker: the install cd has a memory test program on it.05:20
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Jack_SparrowDBLUE: Tag them in synaptic and let it take care of it.05:20
DBLUEI don't have internet at home!05:20
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hersheyok can someone help me on changing a volume from read only to read and write?05:20
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Stormx2DBLUE: sudo dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb etc etc etc.05:20
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MariolinkI need a swap, a ext3 and a?05:20
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sgtmattbakermy RAM is perfectly fine.  I ran memtest +86 long enough to test my RAM 8 times (both sticks) a couple months ago and they passed flawlessly05:21
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robert_has the latest version of OpenOffice.org ever made anybody's X take a permanent vacation?05:21
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W8TAHthere is a channel someplace around here that deals with eyecandy and such for ubuntu -- can someone point me at it -- i cant seem to find it05:21
Jack_SparrowDBLUE: Download them on any ubuntu system you have, then copy var/cache/apt/archives to a cd... use that to install on system without internet05:21
dgjonesBibleman_Bill, you need to give some detail about what you're having problems with - I saw screensaver but no mention of what the problem was05:21
DBLUEand how it will do that with 120 packages05:21
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DBLUEdone05:21
wizopike_, you there?05:21
Kauranyone here using a core 2 duo (genuine intel 2300)?05:21
dxdtW8TAH: #ubuntu-effects05:21
deshantmrobert_, i have been having an issue with openoffice05:21
Bibleman_BillHow do I get Screen saver to work i got all my settings rite05:21
W8TAHthanks05:21
stuart87unagi: if i can mount the Vista partition from /dev/sda1, does that mean that GRUB should be looking at (hd0,1)? Or are they unrelated?05:21
deshantmrobert_: i thought it was just some setting i had05:21
dgjonesBibleman_Bill, are you using gnome?05:22
hersheyso when i try to change the access properties for volume says dont have permission05:22
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Bibleman_Billno kde05:22
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robert_hm05:22
piranesimi servirebbe un chiarimento su dd, se io faccio l'immagine di una partizione e prima di farla cancello un file su quella partizione grande qualche giga, l'immagine che andr a fare sar pi grande dello spazio effettivo occupato giusto? (in quanto ci saranno punti dell'hd in cui sono scritti dati anche se unlinkati)05:22
pike_wizo: yeah05:22
robert_so it isn't just me05:22
BrokenNubare the official md5sums listed anywhere online ?05:22
hersheycan someone help to change prop of volume plz05:22
dgjones!it | piranesi05:22
ubotupiranesi: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:22
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piranesisorry05:22
deshantmrobert_: can you describe your experience(s) more?05:22
dxdtBrokenNub: yeah, they are just in the plain lists of mirrors and stuffs05:22
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tsurc_on feisty ubuntu-xen-server is built with 2.6.19.4 but the headers for that kernel are not available in the repos. I would like to be able to get drbd working too05:22
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Bibleman_Billkde desktop05:22
robert_deshantm, my problem happens whenever you try to pull down a menu05:22
Stormx2Bibleman_Bill: Pfft, jesus doesn't provide ubuntu technical support for you?!05:23
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robert_it forces me to restart it05:23
robert_er05:23
pike_hershey: open a terminal and tyep alsamixer  you can use the up and down arrows to adjust volume and the < and > keys to remove the MM mute05:23
Bibleman_Billusing Mepis 6.005:23
deshantmrobert_: every time? or just once in awhile?05:23
wizopike_, how did you get your card to work? all i get is a dead screen after i type startx into console at start.05:23
robert_every time05:23
hersheynot volume05:23
deshantmrobert_: i have only had that happen once in awhile05:23
DBLUEJack_Sparrow, but the repositories program need some sort of index of the deb's05:23
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sgtmattbakerJack_Sparrow: so the ram is not the problem05:23
hersheyvolume as in another harddrive mounted05:23
hersheylol sry05:24
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pike_wizo: usually all i need to do is apt-get the glx package and thats it. what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?05:24
hersheyi guess i ask it all wrong05:24
cmooreusaanyone uninstall firefox and associated synaptic packages and now after login no desktop?05:24
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deshantmrobert_: it doesn't fully lock the computer... i.e. i can't get in via ssh, but even then it doesn't let me kill X or openoffice etc.05:24
Bibleman_Billdgjones can you help05:24
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Stormx2cmooreusa: is nautilus installed?05:24
unagistuart87: that should be right05:24
robert_deshantm, hm, calling X a hippie and 'killall -9 Xorg' from console solves it for me05:24
BrokenNubwell, it seems that my md5sum matches, don't know why the install fails then05:24
dgjonesBibleman_Bill, i'm not sure about KDE, I only use Gnome, you could ask in #kubuntu, they may have a better idea - but with you saying you're using Mepis, they may not be able to help05:24
Mariolinkwhat kind of partitions do i need? do I need more than a ext3 and a swap?05:24
DBLUEJack_Sparrow, what to do05:24
BrokenNubdownloading the text installer atm05:24
cmooreusaI don't think nautilus is running05:24
robert_console being ssh05:24
robert_ah05:24
Jack_SparrowStormx2:  Be advised he has been banned from Mepis for his sermons05:24
wizopike_, what should i look out for05:24
cmooreusaI didn't see it run05:24
robert_is ssh running on your box?05:24
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hersheyi have a harddrive with files in there however i can't make changes it is only read not read and write05:24
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deshantmrobert_: yes i have an ssh server running on it05:25
wizopike_, this caught my eye, (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)05:25
dgjonesBibleman_Bill, perhaps try #mepis or maybe #kde05:25
hersheyactually total of three harddrives05:25
Bibleman_BillStormx2,:=)05:25
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deshantmrobert_: i never tried the kill -9 for xorg05:25
Jack_SparrowDBLUE: What do you mean... I do what I told you to do all the time.. Synaptic looks there before trying to dl the files05:25
hersheythe two additional drive dont allow me to make changes to the file in them05:25
deshantmrobert_: i usually just tried doing gdm stop05:25
medflyhow do i start a script in the background?05:25
sgtmattbakerto kill xserver just botch your xorg.conf05:25
BrokenNubdownloads do go a bit faster when one has a 12 mbit downstream05:25
sgtmattbakerand ctrl-alt-backspace05:26
pike_wizo: that would catch my eye too :) ive gotta replicate a few things for work real quick so maybe somone else here has suggestion05:26
hersheyi just want to change the permission on the two additional drive but it wont let me05:26
tsurc_Ive got a problem. on feisty, ubuntu-xen-server is built with 2.6.19.4 but the headers for that kernel are not available in the repos. I would like to be able to get xdrbd on the xen host05:26
stuart87unagi: It definatly won't boot into it though. I'm thinking maybe a bad boot.ini...? The other possibility is that I was running the recovery tool on the CD, and I changed the bootable flag on the XP partition to TRUE. Could this have affected the other partition???05:26
wizopike_, oh ok then, thanks =)05:26
DBLUEJack_Sparrow, yes i copied the files in there once, but no effect.05:26
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wizoanyone else can help me solve this error from the log? (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)05:26
unagiit could........do you not have a back up of the refresh rate conf file you altered to make it easier to do if u reinstalled ubuntu?05:27
Jack_SparrowDBLUE: DOnt know what to tell you, I do it all the time.. Works fine.. you may want to look at !clone05:27
antonio_salve a tutti05:27
deshantmrobert_: how much RAM on your system... does that seem to be an possible issue... low memory?05:27
Bibleman_BillThank you all very much and God Bless all till we meet again05:27
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DBLUEJack_Sparrow, you mean all that path to be on the cd05:27
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Jack_SparrowDBLUE: Ubuntu should also just see the archinves on the cd and give you a popup as to what you want to do with the cd..05:27
robert_deshantm, I dunno, does 3gb often cause a problem with OpenOffice?05:27
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DBLUEJack_Sparrow, and then synaptic will recognize the cd05:27
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MariolinkIt says i need a root. How much space does a root need and how do I define one?05:27
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ramy__hey guys, can anyone help in sharing my folders in Ubuntu to a XP desktop and vice versa ? i have already samba, i spent 6 hours trying to make it works, without use :(05:28
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hersheyi went to the computer then right-clicked on the harddrive i want to change, then select permission when i change access from readonly to read and write it says cant change it05:28
stuart87Mariolink, if this wasn't a linux forum, that last comment would have sounded a bit different05:28
sgtmattbakerHello, I am having a problem with ym videocard and Ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33225/05:28
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Jack_SparrowDBLUE: There is an option in synaptic to add cd as repo..05:28
DBLUEJack_Sparrow, i changed the gdm.conf to allow root login, but still i can't log in as root05:28
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hersheycan someone plz help me here05:29
wizoargh, changing to nvidia totally hangs my laptop05:29
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DBLUEJack_Sparrow, but i need such a thing05:29
Jack_SparrowDBLUE: Why would you do that.. it is not recommended05:29
Junowill someone help me get my cd/dvd drive mounted?05:29
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WindsofTimehershey, ask the question not the permission to ask05:29
wizosomeone help please? urgent :(05:29
Junowizo- I'm having the same issues05:29
medflyhow do i start something in the background? the fact its not in the background makes it not work right05:29
bulmerhershey: i just popped in..whats the problem with your puter?05:29
jribmedfly: something &05:29
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BrokenNubegad, stupid cat05:29
wizoJuno, really? does your screen go really black?05:29
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DBLUEJack_Sparrow, for who, for simple people, people who can't deal with problems05:29
medflyjrib, thanks05:29
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Junono.. I just can't get the nvidia drivers to load05:30
nubbeHow do I make a script open in a terminal without being asked about edit? open? or open in terminal?05:30
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deshantmrobert_: that is what i have... obviously it shouldn't be a problem... but with firefox agressively caching. etc05:30
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medflyjrib, uhm, it still doesnt work :(05:30
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rodrigouou05:30
jribmedfly: what doesn't work?05:30
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Jack_SparrowDBLUE: If you cant figure out how to transfer an archive or enable cd in synaptic... it was setup for people like you.05:30
wizohmm05:30
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`Fr`Ed`Do`hi all05:30
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Junowizo: have you tried ENVY?05:30
hersheyi went to the computer then right-clicked on the harddrive i want to change, then select permission when i change access from readonly to read and write it says cant change it, how do i change the permission of the drive is the question05:30
gutsygutsy tribe4 livecd is sooooo damn nice! :)05:30
`Fr`Ed`Do`someone are italian?05:30
wizoJuno, what's that05:30
Jack_SparrowDBLUE: Running as ROOT in NOT a good idea.05:30
Jack_Sparrowis05:30
Junowizo: google envy feisty05:30
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jribDBLUE, Jack_Sparrow: take a look at apt-zip for transferring packages to a pc without internet05:31
stuart87hershey, you may need to be root05:31
Jack_Sparrow!envy05:31
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!05:31
hersheyi went to the computer then right-clicked on the harddrive i want to change, then select permission when i change access from readonly to read and write it says cant change it05:31
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bulmerhershey: 1st thing, for mounted partitions, you must be root to mount and change the perms..05:31
DBLUEJack_Sparrow, actually it is, cause i use dpkg -i05:31
wizobut im not using feisty05:31
jribhershey: what filesystem?05:31
sgtmattbakerdoes nobody know what is going on05:31
ewook`Fr`Ed`Do`: try #ubuntu-it05:31
bulmerhershey:  be patient okay?05:31
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medflyjrib, oh lol, i just found out what the problem was, never mind :)05:31
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Jack_Sparrowjrib: Agreed there are lots of ways...05:31
`Fr`Ed`Do`ewook, thanks :*05:31
JunoJack: I can't even access my restricted drivers05:31
marC--#.join #compiz-fusion05:31
stuart87sudo chmod /hdd +rwxrwxrwx05:31
hersheyhow do i become root05:31
jrib!root > hershey (see the private message from ubotu)05:31
ewookhershey: sudo05:31
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Shayei installed eggdrop all went fine it's now saying that user file not found and that it can't connect, what do i do?05:32
DBLUEJack_Sparrow, and you as that stupid that can install 120 packages manualy, a?05:32
DBLUEJack_Sparrow. sorry05:32
hershey!root05:32
ubotudo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:32
ewookShaye: did you create a configfile that you start it with +05:32
bulmerhershey: also please prefix your responses with a nick if you are directing a response05:32
DBLUEJack_Sparrow, and who  is that stupid that can install 120 packages manualy, a?05:32
JunoI'm having major issues trying to install my NVIDIA driver05:32
Jack_SparrowDBLUE: Enjoy your reinstall after you vrash from running as root.05:32
Shayeewook no could u explain more please05:32
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jribJuno: using the restricted drivers manager?05:32
DBLUEJack_Sparrow, really?05:32
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MariolinkWell I am installing ubuntu, And im at the patition screen. I made a 2gb swap partition(logical) and a ext3 partition(Primary) but when i press continue it says i have to define a root partition.05:33
Junojrib: restricted drivers manager wont even open.  says none of my hardware is using any restricted drivers05:33
DBLUEJack_Sparrow, i was loggin as root in SusE, and no problems05:33
Jack_SparrowDBLUE: This is NOT Suse05:33
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Junoerr... "DOES NOT NEED ANY RESTRICTED DRIVERS"05:33
ewookShaye: the eggdrop needs a well configured config-file to run. so, you more or less start the eggie with eggdrop -[configfile] 05:33
nubbeHow do I make a script open in a terminal without being asked by Gnome about edit? open? Cancel? or Open in terminal?05:33
jribJuno: what card?05:33
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bulmersometimes an experience of a crash is really educational too..learns a few dont do anymore05:33
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Junojrib: GeForce 8400GS05:33
LukeDoes anyone know of any downsides to JFS aside from no shrinking? Has anyone heard of it deleting files that were corrupt?05:34
DBLUEJack_Sparrow, nevermind05:34
Jack_Sparrowagreed05:34
medflyDBLUE, its mostly a security thing, linux is meant to work when not running as root.05:34
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ramy__hey guys, can anyone help in sharing my folders in Ubuntu to a XP desktop and vice versa ? i have already samba, i spent 6 hours trying to make it works, without use :(05:34
Shayeewook i edited the whole config file05:34
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hersheybulmer: so i type.. sudo and what else05:34
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riyonukMy Synaptic Package Manager has been on "Preparing Packages" for a long time, with the orange bar going left and right. Did it get stuck or something?05:34
jribJuno: checked bugs.ubuntu.com for bugs about that card?  Also, have you tried installing nvidia-glx-new and enabling it afterwards?05:35
bulmerhershey you can find out more about sudo via  man sudo    anyways  "sudo su -"05:35
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DBLUEmedfly, but i need root account only when installing something, i can't write root password for each package i install05:35
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ewookShaye: look at http://www.egghelp.org/using.htm , search for userfile05:35
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stuart87DBLUE: sudo -i05:35
wizohas anyone solved the problem of having a blank laptop screen after installing nvidia-glx drivers?05:35
Junojrib: I used aptitude to install nvidia-glx, but not -new.  And I dont know anything about "enabling it afterwards"05:35
DBLUEi use it05:36
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jrib!nvidia > Juno (see the private message from ubotu)05:36
jribJuno: the command should be on that wiki page, let me know if you can't find it05:36
ewookShaye: if your just going to use the eggdrop for logging, I'd look for something else. the eggdrop is to complex to manage for just logging :)05:36
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wizojrib, can you gimme the link as well05:36
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jribwizo: you can just do this to get ubotu to talk to you:  /msg ubotu nvidia05:36
wizothanks05:37
DBLUETo all try this in terminal >  apt-get moo05:37
wizothis is my last hope05:37
ewookjrib: a bot that wants to talk ;)05:37
bulmerwizo: your X window == ctrl+alt+f7 maybe not be displaying..but your ctrl+alt+f1-f6 consoles should be if it booted okay..so go there and logged in text mode05:37
ewookDBLUE: why? need milk ?05:38
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DBLUENo.05:38
ewook:)05:38
DBLUEDid u see it05:38
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wizobulmer, my system always starts up into console and asks for a user name and pass word05:38
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sgtmattbakercan anyone please help me?05:38
ewookyes :)05:38
DBLUEo, x crashed05:38
wizobulmer, it only loads the desktop when i type startx05:38
jrib!please > sgtmattbaker (see the private message from ubotu)05:38
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ewooksgtmattbaker: yes, more or less everyone.05:38
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DBLUEwizo, with no shutdown option, right05:39
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Mariolinkhow do i set a root partition?? got a sawp and a ext3 partition05:39
Shayeewook what do u mean... it's not only for logging and i wanna use it.05:39
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sgtmattbakerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33225 then please look at this paste.  I have posted several times and nobody has bothered to look05:39
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pawallsIs there any way to force something to occur serially w/ the new upstart stuff? I have an init script that takes a little while but *must* be executed before tty's are spawned.. any way to accomplish this? It appears that priority (eg. S10) is completely ignored in /etc/rcX.d05:39
medflyis there a way to identify what pixel my mouse is pointing at?05:39
ewookShaye: aye. that was off topic. did you find any usefull info on the page?05:39
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voidPtrLVcould someone recommend a good binary newsgroup reader for ubuntu which is similar to newsbin, etc. for windows ?05:39
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bulmerwizo so you are able to log on...try to google for nvidia and x-window05:40
ewooksgtmattbaker: sorry, no graphics wiz05:40
t0nedefvoidPtrLV: well i don't know what newsbin is, but a decent binary reader for X is pan05:40
jribpawalls: try #upstart as well if no one here knows05:40
ewook:/05:40
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voidPtrLVthanks tone i'll check it out05:40
t0nedefvoidPtrLV: i hope its what your lookin for05:40
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ewookvoidPtrLV: cannot your mail-client handle newsgroups+05:41
medflypawalls, slow the tty spawning! :)05:41
ewook?05:41
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t0nedefvoidPtrLV: but it does have some problems with crashing if you overload it... not that often, but once in a while, but i've yet to find another i like05:41
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White_Lightninghi robin05:41
stuart87unagi: Just found that my Vista partition has the bootable flag set to on. The only thing is that it is 106GB, but that shouldn't matter, shouldn't it?05:42
FloydFan ok.... installing ubuntu. Installatio craped out and droped me to initramfs. added "break=top" to install options, then "modeprobe piix", then "exit". Desktop boots after about 1000 years. Using install is impossibly slow and pretty much haults. Answeres?05:42
wizohmm05:42
t0nedefewook: he was looking for a binary newsgroup reader, regular mail progs don't seem to handle binary newsfeeds too well05:42
wizomodprobe nvidia is not showing anything, what do i do05:42
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Junowizo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:42
unagii dont think so05:42
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Junothere is a link on that page discussing laptop users getting a black screen05:42
Junomight help05:42
sgtmattbakerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33225 Here is my issue.05:43
ewookt0nedef: oh. don't even know what that is *_*05:43
ewookt0nedef: thanks for the note tho :)05:43
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medflyis there a way to identify what pixel my mouse is pointing at?05:43
t0nedeft0nedef: think P2P from the 80's05:43
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t0nedefewook: er, well not that old05:43
wizosigh05:43
Junojwib: I dont see my video card on the supported list on the link you gave me05:43
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wizoJuno, i've already done sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy05:44
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stuart87i give up, reinstall05:44
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t0nedefJuno: is your card newer or older?05:46
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Junonewer I believe05:46
JunoI'm using a brand new laptop05:46
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felipe__Hello, could someone point me to the Ubuntu startup logs?05:46
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hersheybulmer: i change to root in the terminal now what do i change permission of mounted drive?05:47
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ewookclear05:47
ewookoops05:47
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t0nedefJuno: you'll have to install it directly from nvidia, they have a friendly little text-based installer, it should do all the configs for you, just make sure you install your dev headers first... i'm not sure wich packages they are though... i haven't needed em personally05:47
ewooklogs resides in /var/log05:48
JunoI've tried using the text based installer and I got an error when I tried to load X saying there was a kernel version error05:48
Junoor something along those lines05:48
t0nedefJuno: yah, you didn't have your build headers installed05:48
wizohey i don't get it, i have done sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy, why issint modprobe nvidia showing anything?05:48
riyonukHow in the world do I scroll up in irssi?05:48
t0nedefJuno... lemme see if i can find you a list of the packages you need to install before your run it05:48
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palintheusJuno, "sudo apt-get build-essentials"05:49
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palintheusI think05:49
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hersheybulmer: you still around?05:49
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nubbeHow do I make a script open in a terminal without being asked by Gnome about edit? open? Cancel? or Open in terminal? when I doubleclick it?05:49
t0nedefPalintheus: yah thats the ones05:49
Junoanother problem... when I use apt-get, it searches for my cd/dvd drive instead of using the net05:49
t0nedefpalintheus: but i think its without the s on the end05:49
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bulmeryes am here...i peek in and out05:49
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hersheyt0nedef: once i am root in terminal, how do i change permission of mounted drive?05:49
xtknightwizo, you need restricted moduoles05:50
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xtknightwizo, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`05:50
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hersheybulmer: once i am root in terminal, how do i change permission of mounted drive?05:50
JunoI get an invalid operatino when I use that command05:50
t0nedefhershey: do you mean from read only to readwrite?05:50
wizoxtknight, i see, i will try that after it reboots, thanks :D05:50
hersheyyup05:50
medflyhershey, uh, -o rw?05:50
wizoxtknight, oh, do i have to reinstall again after i do that?05:50
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bulmerhershey: why do you want to change it ? for which user?05:50
palintheust0nedef, yeah, you're right05:50
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hersheyt0nedef: yes05:50
xtknightwizo, reinstall what? no05:50
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t0nedefhershy you gotta remount it read-write05:51
wizoxtknight, reinstall the drivers05:51
xtknightwizo, simply type the cmd and 'nvidia' kernel module should appear05:51
xtknightwizo, reinstall restricted if it's already installed?  sure05:51
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hersheybulmer: root05:51
denndaHi, does Feisty Alternate contain a Server-Install?05:51
Junopalintheus: I get an invalid operation when I try your command05:51
xtknightwizo, sometimes nvidia.com or ati.coms drivers destroy restricted-drivers on uninstall05:51
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medflyis there a way to identify what pixel my mouse is pointing at?05:51
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t0nedefhershey: heres the long way... umount /dev/sd?; mount /dev/sd? /path/where/mounted05:51
ntbnnt...05:51
bulmerhershey: as root, mount would normally mount it read and write unless you specified read only05:52
t0nedefhershey: heres the long way... umount /dev/sd?; mount -rw /dev/sd? /path/where/mounted05:52
m1rdennda : no05:52
t0nedefmeh05:52
palintheusJuno, did you leave off the 's' off the end? I forgot and t0nedef corrected me05:52
t0nedefhershey, meh, thats wrong05:52
Junoyes05:52
denndam1r: Does it contain any installer that just installs to a basic command-line-interface? (i do not need any graphical interface)05:52
t0nedefhershey, i've been awake a long time, let me refresh my memory05:52
wizoxtknight, they say i already have the newests05:52
m1rdennda, then install server version05:53
xtknightwizo, did you reinstall linux-restricted-modules?05:53
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riyonukWhats the process name of Synaptic?05:53
wizoxtknight, i type this sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`05:53
xtknightriyonuk, synaptic05:53
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palintheusJuno, you can also go to system>administration>Synaptic Package Manager and search for the package and do it that way05:53
denndam1r: ok, thank you05:53
JunoI just used: sudo aptitude install build-essential05:53
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xtknightwizo, okay. type "sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`"05:53
riyonukI cant find it in the processes, its not there05:53
Junowhich gave me a few packages to download05:53
palintheusJuno, that works05:54
bulmerhershey did you ever get a chance to read  man mount ?05:54
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ubuntuEdgyany one use backuppc ?05:54
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Junopalintheus, aptitude wont download from the net.  it keeps asking me for a cd05:54
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Junoand my cd/dvd drive isnt mounted correctly =\05:54
nubbeHow do I make a script open in a terminal without being asked by Gnome about edit? open? Cancel? or Open in terminal? when I doubleclick it?05:54
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ntbnntyou need to edit your sources.list, ju05:55
ntbnntjuno05:55
neverbluemorning05:55
wizoxtknight, ok reinstalled, but modprobe nvidia doesnt show anything05:55
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Doujinshiuh, hello, i was hoping someone could help me. when i try to boot from a 7.04 livecd, i get the error message "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"05:55
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xtknightwizo, it's not supposed to show anything05:55
xtknightwizo, if there is no error you're good05:56
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palintheusJuno, use synaptic to edit your sources list and remove the cd from the drive, if its in there05:56
neverblueJuno, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:56
Shayeewook ill follow that link now05:56
wizoxtknight, oh ok, cool05:56
neverblueJuno, are you familiar with nano?05:56
xtknightwizo, type dmesg for further details05:56
miguel__hello05:56
Junono.  I'm still very new to linux05:56
nemikdoes anyone have the problem of a laptop going into suspend when it is unplugged? this is crazy annoying05:56
neverblueJuno, type that command in a shell05:56
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palintheusJuno, you can use synaptic for a GUI way to do it05:56
wizosigh, it still doesnt load X05:57
neverbluethen scroll down to where the CDs are used, and comment out the lines, using #05:57
Junonano is a text editor isnt it?05:57
xtknightnemik, sounds like some sort of ACPI problem.  have you checked your power management settings05:57
neverblueJuno, correct05:57
xtknightwizo, post /var/log/X.0.log05:57
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ewookShaye: k, tell me if it gave you anything. I'll look in my eggie otherwise.05:57
wizoxtknight, will do in a while, it hanged, gotta reboot05:57
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xtknightwizo, press SysRq+K05:57
hersheyt0nedef:  i tried how u said, ur rite it was wrong05:57
xtknightwizo, to kill instead of reoboting05:58
AllooshI have wireless mouse and keyboard, suddenly the comp went off, and when got it on again the mouse is not working, any idea?05:58
hersheybulmer: and suggestions?05:58
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t0nedefhershey, mount -w /dev/whatever /wherever/youwantit05:58
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FloydFan..ide love to try unubtu but its proving impossible to install for me on my dell dimension 460005:58
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bulmerhershey did you ever get a chance to read  "man mount"05:58
__mikemCan someone help me get wireless workikng on my notebook?05:58
t0nedefhershey, thats cuz i had you do the readonly option and the readwrite opting at the same time05:58
neverblueJuno, then press ctrl-o to save, and ctrl-x to quit05:58
wizoxtknight, what's stsrq05:58
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t0nedefhershey man 8 mount05:58
JunoThanks guys, that fixed it05:58
neverblueJuno, am I losing you?05:58
xtknightwizo, sysrq, it's the same as Alt+PrintScreen.  see the top of that key05:59
hersheybulmer: no i didnt, i will do that doe, thnx05:59
neverblueJuno, then sudo apt-get update05:59
t0nedefmeh, i'm gettins some sleep05:59
palintheusJuno, awesome, glad I could help05:59
Doujinshican anyone help me?05:59
hersheyt0nedef: thanks! sleep well05:59
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xtknightwizo, (System ReQuest in other words)  it helps you kill stuff without reoboting, and potentially without losing data.  sysrq+S will sync to disk, eliminating the possibility of dataloss when you press reset05:59
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t0nedefhershey: but i didn't really help ya, i jsut confused ya more06:00
ewookt0nedef: have a good one :)06:00
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ewookDoujinshi: just spill it out :)06:00
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Doujinshi<Doujinshi> uh, hello, i was hoping someone could help me. when i try to boot from a 7.04 livecd, i get the error message "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"06:00
xtknightDoujinshi, , jmicron controller?06:01
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Doujinshiuh06:01
stuart87what chipset?06:01
wizoxtknight, ah i see, but my print screen button doesnt work06:01
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xtknightDoujinshi, what kind of PC?06:01
Doujinshiits an intel santa rosa laptop06:01
wizoxtknight, http://rafb.net/p/TvJZ2a16.html06:01
palintheusDoujinshi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42158806:01
ewookodd error for a chipset-bugg06:01
palintheusIt has to do with SATA06:01
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Doujinshioh06:01
Doujinshiok, ill try it06:02
xtknightwizo, are you using the "nvidia" driver or "nv"?06:02
palintheusI had the same issue on my laptop06:02
xtknightDoujinshi, try what?06:02
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xtknightDoujinshi, not yet :P06:02
Doujinshipaluntheus link06:02
wizoxtknight, right now? xorg.conf has "nvidia"06:02
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xtknightoh06:02
Doujinshioh?06:02
xtknightthat's fine06:02
xtknighti didnt see it.06:02
Jack_SparrowDoujinshi: I ended up having to use the alt install cd to get past that on one computer and just reburned the cd at a very slow speed fixed it on the other.06:02
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xtknightwizo, hmm well i dont see the nvidia module even loading in the X.org log06:03
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stuart87you may need extra drivers. I assume you have a laptop?06:03
wizoxtknight, oh noes :o but when i type lsmod | grep nvidia i get 2 results06:03
xtknightwizo, hmm so your screen just freezes?06:03
xtknightwizo, (when you start X)06:03
wizonvidia 3921884 0  and agpgart 34888 2 nvidia, intel_agp06:04
medflyis there a way to identify what my mouse is pointing at?06:04
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wizoxtknight, when i type startx, it'll load a blank screen, then suddenly the screen will go blank, like the laptop is shutdown06:04
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xtknightwizo, weird.  can you post xorg.conf?06:05
wizosuper headache06:05
wizoxtknight, sure thing06:05
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Jack_Sparrowmedfly: You keep asking the same question.. You need to define what you are doing or needing to do...  What language you are tryig to program in or ?  Pointing to a pixel, a window or an object in or on that window06:06
wizoxtknight, http://rafb.net/p/26O4Z977.html06:06
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medflyJack_Sparrow, well, yeah, im hoping i might get a reply. i thought maybe making the question more general will help. a pixel in this case.06:06
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medflyJack_Sparrow, sorry.06:07
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xtknightmedfly, take a screenshot and edit it in gimp?  then you can tell pixel #, i think06:07
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xtknightwizo, your laptop's lcd is 1024x768 native?06:07
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wizoxtknight, errr.. no idea :s06:08
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wizoit's a 15 inch i think06:08
medflyxtknight, uhh, i dont think i wanna resort to that, but i thought of that option. i mean, i wanna make a coolio program, for myself. and i want it to be able to identify what pixel my mouse is pointing at.06:08
xtknightwizo, what laptop model?06:08
chenchenis there any sftp front end??06:08
chencheni search through SPM, but cannot found any06:08
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xtknightmedfly, looking for an API/06:08
wizoxtknight, toshiba satellite 3000, about 6 years now06:08
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medflyxtknight, i guess. im too new to this to know what i need to do06:09
xtknightwizo, ok that is 1024x768 native. hmm06:09
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wizoxtknight, sigh, this problem is so annoying06:09
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xtknightmedfly, you're making a program and you want to know what pixel your mouse is at, but you're new to programming?06:09
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xtknightwizo, use regular "nv" drivers?06:10
JunoTo those who were helping me install my video driver a moment ago.. THANK YOU06:10
medflyxtknight, well, yeah. i guess..06:10
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riyonukA Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)06:10
riyonukmust be available in order to run Eclipse. What does this mean?06:10
medflyxtknight, i can program a little, but only basic things :)06:10
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palintheus-workJuno, np glad it worked06:10
wizoxtknight, i guess i have no choice.. but i need it cause i need to use openGL for my homework :(06:10
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xtknightwizo, i thought nv had some open source acceleration, i could be wrong.  maybe that was radeon06:10
JunoI'm sure I'll be back later with more questions though ;)06:11
jetscreamerit means install the java06:11
medflyriyonuk, that you gotta have one of those two installed to be able to run eclipse.. ?06:11
jetscreamer!java06:11
xtknightwizo, hmm see if "nouveau" has any open source glx drivers for gf2 (doubt it), or check nvidia.com for legacy gf2 drivers and try those..06:11
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre06:11
wizoxtknight, i see, thanks anyway =)06:11
Jonatha1HOWLINGMADHOWIE06:11
Doujinshiuh06:11
benzs_show do i go about compiling/installing (or whatever) this? https://core.fluendo.com/gstreamer/trac/changeset/79206:11
riyonukWhere is java in synaptic?06:11
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faileasanyone has any idea how big a totally minimal ubuntu install is?06:12
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Doujinshinow it says "failed to start the X server (your graphical interface)"06:12
benzs_sriyonuk: search for 'java'06:12
TAGdoes any one no what this is and what to do to solved it?E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.06:12
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ewookTAG: well, bring up a terminal and do sudo dpkg --configure -a06:13
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Doujinshi"fatal server error: no screens found"06:13
medflyfaileas, uhm, ubuntu is the kind of linux distro youd want when you have alot of space.06:13
TAGi try that thanks06:13
xtknightmedfly, cant really help you there but it would be in X.org (X11) documentation06:13
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medflyxtknight, thanks06:13
riyonukUmm whoever talking to me, I cant even see your name, its in bright yellow :D06:13
riyonukSo do I enable multiverse?06:13
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kidbuntu #java06:13
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kidbuntu##java06:13
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ewookfaileas: xubuntu comes more or less as minimal as ubuntu gets with all default packages.06:13
faileasmedfly: Yeah but i need a fairly minimal install so was wondering what to go for06:13
gordonjcpriyonuk-nothighlighting: are you using irssi in a terminal?:06:14
Crane_faileas: how minimal are you wanting06:14
riyonukAlso, in synaptic sources, why are there 2 cd rom sources?06:14
riyonukYes06:14
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xtknightbenzs_s, what's it for?06:14
riyonukAnd I have no idea what Im doing :D06:14
faileascrane: minimal desktop environment, java06:14
moriancumerfaileas: ubuntu-server is the most minimal install. no gui06:14
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Crane_faileas: you could use server install then add to it06:14
wizosigh06:14
benzs_sfluendo gstreamer has a bug which causes it to close on playing some mp3s06:14
wizoscrew this06:14
benzs_sapparently this fixes it06:14
Crane_of06:14
ewookmoriancumer: well, ya :).06:14
Crane_oh06:15
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wizothanks for your efforts xtknight06:15
xtknightbenzs_s, ahh ok06:15
moriancumerewook: :)06:15
ewookmoriancumer: if you neglect the purpouse of it to come with LAMP.06:15
WindsofTime**Does anyone know how to install XAMPP on Linux via making a folder in ops and creating a script to have the server run at Startup?**06:15
xtknightwizo, no problem06:15
benzs_sby 'it' i mean any media player06:15
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xtknightbenzs_s, you need the gstreamer source.  make a working dir in your /home, like "mkdir /home/$USER/gstreamer"06:15
riyonukomgz, download a movie, cant even play it o_O06:15
Doujinshi"no screens found" what does this mean?06:15
xtknightbenzs_s, and dont download anything yet.  it's easier than this06:15
benzs_srgr06:15
xtknightDoujinshi, it means your X org is configured improperly06:15
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moriancumerewook: I use ubuntu-server on an old laptop as a desktop06:16
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riyonukis it sun java 5 or 6?06:16
riyonukWhich is better?06:16
Doujinshihow do i configure it, then?06:16
wizoxtknight, how do i make it load nvidia modules at startup?06:16
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faileascrane_: probably using alternate CD. just want a rough idea of size06:16
xtknightbenzs_s, feisty?06:16
ewookriyonuk: well, this is universe is controlled by what kind of packages you can ship with a distro, so your video prolly needs stuff not able to ship directly, you need to get it yourself :)06:16
benzs_sxtknight: yep06:16
xtknightwizo, add  "nvidia" to the end of /etc/modules06:16
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xtknightbenzs_s, cd /home/$USER/gstreamer06:17
benzs_srgr06:17
ewookmoriancumer: smart idea, if you want a deb-based workstation that is minimal and gets updated more often then deb ;)06:17
mzanfardinoI need to start a service on my server after everything else has started.  Currently I'm using an autologin proceedure which logs in a dummy user, but I'd rather not do it this way.  Is there another way to spool a script after everything is done loading that is as reliable in it's timing as having it spawn when a user logs in?06:17
xtknightbenzs_s, sudo apt-get build-dep gstreamer0.1006:17
xtknightbenzs_s, this will d/l the dependencies you need for compiling it.06:17
ewookmzanfardino: cron-job06:17
benzs_sE: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/download.tuxfamily.org_syzygy42_dists_feisty_avant-window-navigator_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)06:17
riyonukWhat would one reccomend for playing movies? VLC?06:17
Doujinshihow do i configure the X org?06:17
xtknightbenzs_s, sudo apt-get update06:17
ewookriyonuk: that would be my recommendation for win/linux ya :)06:18
mzanfardinoewook: yeah?  I can have cron-job spawn a script following boot?  How might I configure that?06:18
ewookoh, it exits for os-x as well.06:18
xtknightDoujinshi, well, to fix it, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and choose vesa, the standard driver06:18
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benzs_sxtknight: after update, still the same error06:18
xtknightbenzs_s, i guess you're going to have to comment out that repository for now06:18
riyonukI really dont like the way ubuntu feels, everything all curvy and orange -_-06:18
ewook!cron06:18
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm06:18
xtknightbenzs_s, you dont have synaptic open right?06:18
xtknightbenzs_s, or any other installers06:18
FloydFan ok.... installing ubuntu. Installatio craped out and droped me to initramfs. added "break=top" to install options, then "modeprobe piix", then "exit". Desktop boots after about 1000 years. Using install is impossibly slow and pretty much haults. Answeres?06:18
xtknightbenzs_s, or update manager..06:18
wizosigh06:18
ewookneed to read up myself :)06:18
benzs_slol nothing's open atm06:19
benzs_si'll open synaptic06:19
xtknightbenzs_s, no we dont want them open06:19
xtknightbenzs_s, they will conflict with apt..06:19
benzs_soh ok06:19
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SORMANOVhello all06:19
ewookdamn... beer-can > /dev/bin/ =/06:19
xtknightbenzs_s, but you'll have to go in your sources.list and remove tuxfamily.  it must be down now or something06:19
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benzs_srgr ok06:19
SORMANOVi need to mount my memory stick card pro duo06:19
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jetscreamerok go ahead06:20
benzs_swhere would i find sources.list?06:20
jetscreamer/etc/apt06:20
riyonukexit06:20
riyonukquit06:20
benzs_so ye06:20
xtknightbenzs_s, gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:20
benzs_sty06:20
SORMANOVwhen i plug the card, dmesg tell me this:06:20
jetscreamer/quit06:20
SORMANOV[  352.128000]  tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:006:20
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riyonukthank you :D06:20
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moriancumerewook: runs lightning fast and I don't feel like I'm going without. Watch movies, edit photos, email, internet, etc.... It's great06:20
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WindsofTime**Does anyone know how to install XAMPP on Linux via making a folder in ops and creating a script to have the server run at Startup?**06:20
jetscreamermount -t auto /dev/whatever /mountpoint06:20
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lgcHi! What's the name of the file dpkg keeps its list of installed packages?06:21
ewookmoriancumer: well, ya of course is it does :). that's how a server is supposed to work, no unneccesary stuff :)06:21
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benzs_sxtknight: the dependencies are downloading :)06:21
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xtknightbenzs_s, ok06:21
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xtknightbenzs_s, now download the "unified diff" at the bottom of that page06:21
hsaterawhat is a good disc recorder?06:21
xtknightbenzs_s, right click, save target as...06:21
hsateraburner06:21
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xtknightbenzs_s, and name it "gst-792.diff" in /home/user/gstreamer so we're on the same page06:21
lgchsatera, k3b, gnomebaker06:21
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nubbeHow do I make a script open in a terminal without being asked by Gnome about edit? open? Cancel? or Open in terminal? when I doubleclick it?06:22
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Falstiushsatera: for the stuff I do (backups on DVD mostly and burning ISOs) I just use the built in one.06:22
benzs_sxtknight: done06:22
hsateraand brasero?06:22
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wizohey, is this envy program that i've heard about only work with feisty? what about 6.06 server edition?06:23
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ticnailer69hey guys06:23
xtknightbenzs_s, trying to find the package that contains the source code we need06:23
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lgcHi! What's the name of the file dpkg keeps its list of installed packages? Anyone?06:23
SORMANOVanyone ?06:23
benzs_srgr06:23
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piranesiI need a software who delete PERMANENTLY the unused space on an disk (writing zeros), who can help me?06:24
ticnailer69I want to encrypt my not work with a wep key and a new essid....I  used network admin and I changed the essid and the key and then when I do a iwlist scan I still get : belkin54g etc...06:24
pike_lgc: /var/lib/dpkg/status?06:24
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xtknightbenzs_s, i dont think ubuntu even has a package with that..hmm06:24
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lgcpike_, right! Thanks!06:25
benzs_sxtknight: well i am working solely on the basis of these two posts: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459383&highlight=fluendo&page=206:25
pike_piranesi: cat /dev/zero > file.temp; rm file.temp  ?06:25
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xtknightbenzs_s, there is gst-fluendo-mpegdemux-0.10 but i cant find the files to ptach06:25
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benzs_sah06:25
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kidbuntuhow do i install amaroks mp3 support on terminal.?06:25
WindsofTime3rd times the charm.....   **Does anyone know how to install XAMPP on Linux via making a folder in ops and creating a script to have the server run at Startup?**06:26
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pike_piranesi: there is an app called wipe also but if youre looking for secure ie selling the computer or something i wouldnt 100% trust it on journaled fs06:26
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Kaslei've just installed bcm43xx-fwcutter... but i have to write sudo modprobe bcm43xx in a terminal every time i boot to get it working.. can anyone help?06:26
wizonothing works :(06:26
garganare there any known issues with getting an address from dhcp from a dhcp server running on windows 2000?06:26
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wizoi even tried dkpg xserver-xorg06:26
ConstyXIVKasle: add bcm43xx to /etc/modules06:26
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KasleConstyXIV: how do i do that? gedit?06:27
ConstyXIVKasle: yeah, sudo gedit /etc/modules06:27
benzs_sgksu gedit06:28
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Kumarucan i load ubuntu on a system, make changes, copy the files to the HDD, then use them to modify the iso?06:28
KasleConstyXIV: thanks man!06:28
kidbuntuhow do i install amaroks mp3 support on terminal.?06:28
kidbuntu!amarok06:28
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok06:28
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ConstyXIVpiranesi: i dunno about unused space, but you can just cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda106:28
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xtknightbenzs_s, okay you need to download gstreamer svn06:28
Happu!mp3 | kidbuntu06:28
ubotukidbuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:28
xtknightbenzs_s, you cant just apply that one patch06:28
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benzs_si see06:29
ConstyXIVpiranesi: warning: that will wipe drive in question06:29
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mweicherthey, I have a default Apache setup... but when I go to http://localhost/cgi-bin, apache is trying to read from /var/www/cgi-bin instead of /usr/lib/cgi-bin06:29
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lostat_CHi. I am looking for a way to put icons in a bar that will really hide itself when not in use and show up when I mouseover a specific area. I am using XFCE for ubuntu 7.04 and don't want to resort to using ugly panels. Any ideas? oh yeah I don't want to use Beryl or any of the fancy 3d stuff if I can also avoid that.06:29
jonahhey geezers, all my shortcuts, file name extensions and desktop links have been a mess for a while now, stuff doesnt double click etc - i'm using feisty, is there a way to reset it all back to work?06:29
ticnailer69I want to encrypt my network with a wep key and a new essid....I  used network admin and I changed the essid and the key and then when I do a iwlist scan I still get : belkin54g etc..06:29
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ticnailer69what can I do?06:29
sparrwhen i send backspace over a telnet connection, i get a space or a funky character.  what can fix that?06:29
ConstyXIVticnailer69: first, do you have another machine with wifi nearby?06:29
Doujinshiok, i reconfigured the x sever06:30
Doujinshinow how do i try to boot it again?06:30
ConstyXIVDoujinshi: ctrl-alt-backspace restarts x06:30
BrokenNubanybody actually know why the liveCD install version of 7.04 x64 seems to fail on so many peoples' machines ?06:30
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Kumarudouhinshi, do you have the problem with x server, not allowing a computer to boot?06:31
Doujinshiwell, it gave me an error, and then threw me back to the command line06:31
Doujinshithen i configured it, and now i have no clue what to do now06:31
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ConstyXIVDoujinshi: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart06:32
benzs_sxtknight: the dependencies just installed, where do i find gstreamer svn?06:32
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xtknightbenzs_s, you have to compile a lot of things06:32
lgcpiranesi, 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/your_device bs=4k'. But this will also do away with the partition table. If not, then do the same, but with bs=512 skip=2. Better check the dd manual.06:32
xtknightbenzs_s, you can't do it with apt-get06:32
Doujinshiuh06:32
Doujinshistarting gnome display manager failed06:32
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benzs_ssigh06:33
benzs_sxchat has all htese amazing ways of closing itself06:33
xtknightbenzs_s, you can't do it with apt-get06:33
ConstyXIVDoujinshi: is that all it says06:33
xtknightbenzs_s, you have to compile a lot of things06:33
benzs_sah06:33
ticnailer69ConstyXIV: NO, I dont,sorry06:33
benzs_sis it more trouble than its worth?06:33
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xtknightbenzs_s, probably.  gutsy will be out in awhile06:33
pike_Doujinshi: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:33
Dusk_i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start06:33
benzs_si suppose i can handle not listening to bowie for a while yet ;)06:34
xtknightbenzs_s, if you really want to you can probably find a guide on it>.. "compile gstreamer" or something similar06:34
benzs_sthanks for your help anyway, xtknight :)06:34
pike_Doujinshi: you want the tail end of it06:34
benzs_srgr06:34
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xtknightbenzs_s, or use ffmpeg instead.  mplayer/xine etc06:34
ConstyXIVticnailer69: first, i would check your router's config page (which on belkins is usually 192.168.2.1)06:34
benzs_sffmpeg gives a severely reduced sound quality for some reason06:34
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xtknightbenzs_s, wow what kind of media is this?06:34
benzs_sjust mp3s06:34
xtknightum i never have trouble with them ?06:34
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xtknight:\06:34
benzs_syeah it's weird06:34
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Doujinshipike, it says quite a bit06:35
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ticnailer69ok06:35
benzs_s** ERROR **: file mp3-c.c: line 518 (III_huffman_decode): assertion failed: (i <= SSLIMIT * SBLIMIT)06:35
benzs_saborting...06:35
benzs_sAborted (core dumped)06:35
Doujinshi"fatal server error, no screens found"06:35
Dusk_i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???06:35
benzs_sa good 20% of my mp3s make every media player do that06:35
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benzs_sand it's due to fluendo, apparently06:35
xtknightbenzs_s, maybe your mp3s have errors?  i dont know06:35
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benzs_soh probably something like that06:35
xtknightbenzs_s, you dont have to use fluendo though.  uninstall that and try gstreamer-  .. - ffmpeg06:35
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benzs_spretty sure that's the one which rubbish sound quality, but i'll try again anyway06:36
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xtknightya definitely mp3 file problems06:36
lhothello06:36
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Doujinshimeh, maybe i should just give this one up06:36
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Doujinshievery time i solve something, a new problem arises06:36
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lhotim having sound problems (i.e. no sound)06:36
dredhammeris there a way to create a bridged network with virtualbox in Feisty? The guides i saw on the forums seem to be for edgy and don't work in Feisty06:36
Dusk_i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???06:37
lgcMy screen lock doesn't work on my newly-upgraded-to edgy. The volume control applet on the bar also doesn't. The soothing Ubuntu brown on my gnome-terminals is gone. Is this a common failure? Thanks.06:37
kidbuntu!beryl06:37
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects06:37
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Dae__hello..i am trying to mount my ntfs partition an i get the error mount: /media/hda1 is not a block device06:37
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benzs_sbreyl kills your computer06:37
ConstyXIVDae__: you want /dev/hda106:37
ConstyXIVDae__: not /media/hda106:38
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Dae__ConstyXIV: oh...ok thx:))06:38
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bdheemanbenzs_s: kills? or murders?06:38
ConstyXIVDae__: like this: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda106:38
benzs_shehe06:38
pike_Dae__: of course with ntfs youd want like mount -o umask=000 blah blah06:38
benzs_sxtknight: yep, ffmpeg distorts massively at the higher volumes06:39
benzs_son all mp3s06:39
pike_or something06:39
ticnailer69ConstyXIV: yeah for some reason I cant connect to 192.168.2.106:39
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bdheemanbenzs_s: you need to be specifc ...06:39
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benzs_sbdheeman ?06:39
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e-Hernickbenzs_s: are you sure it's ffmpeg? Have you tried other audio applications?06:40
benzs_syes06:40
benzs_srhythmbox, amarok, banshee, xmms06:40
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Dae__pike_: i mounted it with -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda106:41
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e-Hernickbenzs_s: so you're trying to play MP3s with the ffmpeg command-line utility?06:41
ConstyXIVticnailer69: okay, make sure you're connected to your router (by ethernet if you must) and type ifconfig, it should list your ip somewhere (probably 192.168.xxx.yyy).  to get to the config page, you'll want to put 192.168.xxx.1 in firefox06:41
Dusk_i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???06:41
Dusk_i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???06:41
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Dusk_i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???06:41
Dusk_i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???06:41
Paddy_EIRE!patience | Dusk06:41
ubotuDusk: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:41
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e-HernickDusk_: yes, it is possible06:41
Dusk_!thanks | Paddy_EIRE06:41
ubotuPaddy_EIRE: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:41
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bdheemanbenzs_s: I'm in this business since 1982 and have never seen a software killed someone computer06:41
PriceChildDusk_, please don't abuse the bot.06:41
benzs_se-Hernick: err, don't think so :o no, i just uninstalled fluendo to give ffmpeg a try06:41
benzs_soh06:42
benzs_slol06:42
Matic`MakovecIs there a player that can play .rm files?06:42
ramy__please if any one know how tell me, i got a headache after 6 hours of searching :(06:42
ewook!pat06:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:42
benzs_sberyl didn't 'kill' my computer :P06:42
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lgcDusk_, 'man grub-install'.06:42
Paddy_EIRE!grub | Dusk_06:42
ubotuDusk_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:42
ntbnnt!love06:42
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ubotuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.06:42
benzs_sexaggerating etc06:42
PriceChildMatic`Makovec, get "w32codecs" from something liks medibuntu and you can play them fine.06:42
benzs_sthe fluendo/ffmpeg business is something else entirely06:42
PriceChild!mp3 | Matic`Makovec06:42
ubotuMatic`Makovec: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:42
Dusk_e-Hernick how can i fix the grub?? it was hda6 but it's hda5 now so it doesn't start06:42
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Matic`MakovecAlrighty, thanks06:43
ticnailer69ok06:43
e-HernickDusk_: have you read the GrubHowto page on help.ubuntu.com ?06:43
ticnailer69one min06:43
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Dusk_e-Hernickok i'm trying sudo grub06:43
Paddy_EIREDusk_: did you read the grub ubuntu wiki entry ubotu gave06:43
Dae__thx ppl06:43
Dae__bb06:43
lgcDusk_, edit the grub options when you boot up.06:43
Dae__exit06:43
SineFatohow do you switch to the cd rom drive in the command line06:44
Paddy_EIRESineFato: its normally mounted in media06:44
e-HernickSineFato: do you know what the 'mount' and 'cd' commands are ?06:44
Paddy_EIRESineFato: sorry thats /media06:44
bazookatooth## i'm having a problem... i have two Dell Monitors. one at home, and one at work. both are 21 inch widescreens, but different models. at home, my ubuntu laptop works perfectly when i hook it up to the monitor. at work, its unusable. i've tried every driver (fglrx, ati, radeon) to no avail.. and only three resolution options show up in the gui config -- even though i changed all of them to 1680 x 1050 in the xorg.conf... HALP, PLZ!!!!!06:44
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SineFatoe-hernick: i know cd, not a clue about mount06:44
e-HernickSineFato: if you type 'mount' by itself it'll give you a list of all mounted drives, including your cdrom if it is mounted. it's probably in /media/cdrom.06:44
bazookatoothi would really like to be able to use my ubuntu machine instead of os x at work.06:44
lgcDusk_, or edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change every suitable entry to the new partition06:44
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anto9usSineFato: just try - cd /media/cdrom06:45
Matic`MakovecWell, it didn't really help PriceChild :o06:45
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PriceChildMatic`Makovec, you have w32codecs installed?06:45
Matic`MakovecI got w32codecs anyways and the URLs say nothing about .rm06:45
BigToe7000how do I disable ACPI in the live CD, and then in ubuntu when it installs?06:45
Matic`MakovecOf course06:45
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SineFatocooly, thanks06:45
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e-HernickMatic`Makovec: afaik .rm compatibility isn't the best with anything other than realplayer06:45
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BigToe7000bear in mind I've just started downloading the live CD and it'll be a while until I actually install it06:45
e-HernickMatic`Makovec: but I've had some success playing rmvb with mplayer+win32codecs06:46
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PriceChildMatic`Makovec, the codecs in ubuntu handle _everything_ except for dvds (libdvdcss) and "a few" realmedia.... it "should" be completed by using w32codecs...06:46
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e-HernickBigToe7000: why do you think you want to 'disable ACPI'06:46
BrokenNubdammit.06:46
PriceChildMatic`Makovec, but if all else fails i guess installing the seperate realplayer app is the only option06:46
BrokenNubnow the install worked fine, but it won't boot.'06:46
Matic`MakovecPriceChild, well what program should I use with it then?06:46
e-HernickBigToe7000: what do you think disabling ACPI would help you with?06:46
BigToe7000e-Hernick I have a faulty ACPI thing06:46
FalstiusBigToe7000: it is either noacpi or acpi=off in the kernel options.06:46
BigToe7000ok, thanks06:46
e-HernickBigToe7000: and you know that for sure? you can't, for example, reflash your BIOS to fix your broken ACPI?06:47
Paddy_EIRE!acpi06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:47
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BigToe7000e-Hernick, I don't have a floppy disk and I can't do it from inside linux or windows06:47
BigToe7000e-Hernick, I can't even get into windows or ubuntu!06:47
BigToe7000:S06:47
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Matic`MakovecHrm, PriceChild  and e-Hernick : realplayer:06:47
Matic`Makovec Odvisen od: xlibs  but it is not installable06:47
Matic`MakovecMeans it depends on xlibs06:47
Matic`MakovecAnd you understand the rest06:48
BigToe7000Falstius, if I put noacpi and acpi=off will it generate an error or just ignore the one that doesn't work?06:48
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PriceChildMatic`Makovec, xlibs.... like libX11 ?06:48
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PriceChildMatic`Makovec, where's this package from?06:48
e-HernickBigToe7000: try both.. if I get it right, your computer isn't even booting right now, so you've got little to lose06:48
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Matic`MakovecUhm, what do you mean? I tried it with apt-get06:48
e-HernickBigToe7000: but do check your BIOS settings..06:48
BigToe7000e-Hernick, it loads but it's slow06:48
BigToe7000because ACPI's busted06:48
] MaRvIN[hi06:49
lgcDusk_, or edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change every suitable entry to the new partition. Anyone?06:49
e-HernickBigToe7000: how do you know your ACPI is busted?06:49
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e-Hernickis it busted on all motherboards of the same model you have?06:49
BrokenNubwhy does Linux hate me so ?06:49
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BigToe7000e-Hernick, because kacpi was using up nearly all of my cpu time06:49
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godzirraHeya guys.  Anyone good with Beryl?  I installed all the stuff for beryl, but when I run beryl-manager from a terminal window, it crashes X and then puts me back at my gdm login screen.06:49
gorrzBrokenNub, whats the deal06:49
lgcMy screen lock doesn't work on my newly-upgraded-to edgy. The volume control applet on the bar also doesn't. The soothing Ubuntu brown on my gnome-terminals is gone. Is this a common failure?06:49
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SineFatogah one more what command do you use in the promt for coping stuff06:49
Paddy_EIRE!effects | godzirra06:50
ubotugodzirra: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects06:50
godzirraThanks.06:50
bazookatoothi'm having a problem... i have two Dell Monitors. one at home, and one at work. both are 21 inch widescreens, but different models. at home, my ubuntu laptop works perfectly when i hook it up to the monitor. at work, its unusable. i've tried every driver (fglrx, ati, radeon) to no avail.. and only three resolution options show up in the gui config -- even though i changed all of them to 1680 x 1050 in the xorg.conf... HALP, PLZ!!!!!06:50
ticnailer69fuck it I'll do it later06:50
ticnailer69pz06:50
BigToe7000e-Hernick, I went through loads of fixes but the people here said "your ACPI is busted, you'll need to disable it"06:50
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SlartSineFato: cp ? or ctrl+shift+c for text copy06:50
w30Matic`Makovec, http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/ feisty-seveas extras in your 3rd party synaptic repository will let you get extra-codecs and has .rm codecs in it06:50
BigToe7000e-Hernick, I left the PC for a few months but I'm running out of hd space on my laptop06:50
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SineFatoslart: cp. thanks06:50
Kumaruis there a guide online for simple ubuntu iso modifacation?06:51
Matic`MakovecOh great, thank you w3006:51
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stuart-heys, is there an apt package for a GUI .rar'er?06:51
shriphanifolks what can i use to draw circuit diagrams on ubuntu ?06:52
Matic`Makovecunrar ?06:52
gorrzstuart-, apt-get install rar06:52
gorrzstuart-, sudo apt-get install rar06:52
gorrz;p06:52
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stuart-thanks06:52
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gorrzold debianer i is :\06:52
w30Matic`Makovec, you don't need realplayer but it is there if you want it. Be warned that installing realplayer makes it take over lots of video file playing defaults.06:52
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lgcshriphani, Dia is one simple tool. But there are more professional ones.06:52
Slartstuart-: fileroller handles rar-files too.. don't know what the package is called06:52
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BrokenNub<long_rant> been using Windows for a while, got tired of it, too much spam/virii, so I installed Sabayon on a recommendation.  That didn't work worth much of anything, couldn't even type in the install program [but got that fixed later] .  Overall, didn't like Sabayon, decided to go back to Ubuntu [which is what I used to use] .  The 7.04 x64 LiveCD doesn't work on my machine [correct md5sum and all, it just won't boot it] , so I grabbed th06:52
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cmooreusacan the UBUNTU install CD fix uninstalled issues that won't allow the system to boot?06:53
gorrzSlart, rar works with the standard fileroller once installed06:53
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genii!info electric06:53
ubotuelectric: electrical CAD system. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.05-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2732 kB, installed size 9156 kB06:53
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Matic`MakovecI'll see about that yeah06:53
Slartgorrz: ah.. didn't know that06:53
huntekefor the gnome desktop is there any where to open up applications on a particular virtual desktop?06:53
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genii!info electric| shriphani06:53
gorrzSlart, yeh pretty neat06:53
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ubotushriphani: electric: electrical CAD system. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.05-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2732 kB, installed size 9156 kB06:53
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ralf_#kubuntu06:54
stuart-rar worked like a charm. thanks guys. just thought that rar/unrar package was commandline06:54
gorrzstuart-, no prob06:54
Darth_Xralf: what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?06:54
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emet_BrokenNub: your rant got cut off06:55
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Paddy_EIREDarth_X: kde is the default kubuntu window manager06:55
ikeeHey I just installed Ubuntu. When i boot on the ubuntu system i starts loading goes ino a black screen with text. Last two sentences are:"/dev/sbd1 has gone 49710 days without being checked, check forced" and "/dev/sdb1:|====                         - 24.2%" and then i freezes.... any idea how to fix that... tried rebooting several times now without success06:55
marshalldoes anybody have the mac menubar thing in GNOME?06:55
bazookatoothi do06:55
Matic`MakovecWell, realplayer works, thank you for hint!06:55
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bazookatoothavant-window-navigator06:55
bazookatoothits awesome06:55
Paddy_EIRE!kde | Darth_X06:55
ubotuDarth_X: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.06:55
benzs_si did06:55
benzs_sbut couldn't figure out a way to create keyboard shortcuts between workspaces on compiz06:55
benzs_sso... don't06:56
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Paddy_EIRE!enter | benzs_s06:56
geniiikee: Try setting your clock06:56
ubotubenzs_s: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:56
Darth_Xubotu: thanks! :)06:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks! :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:56
benzs_soops06:56
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e-Hernick!upnp06:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:56
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Darth_Xheh bot ;)06:57
Tiggzzzhi peeps06:57
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zorzecould someone point me in the direction of a good hardware based modem for ubuntu that is available in wal-mart circuit city etc.06:57
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BrokenNub<long_rant> been using Windows for a while, got tired of it, too much spam/virii, so I installed Sabayon on a recommendation.  That didn't work worth much of anything, couldn't even type in the install program [but got that fixed later] .  Overall, didn't like Sabayon, decided to go back to Ubuntu [which is what I used to use] .06:57
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BrokenNub The 7.04 x64 LiveCD doesn't work on my machine [correct md5sum and all, it just won't boot it] , so I grabbed the Text Install version.  It installed fine, but now it won't boot either.  It just *stops* after loading the kernel.06:57
e-Hernickanybody know of a good UPNP IGD client that I can use to add port redirs to an UPNP router? I've tried miniupnp/upnpc but it only lists redirs, adding them fails.. but I know UPNP is working fine on my router since GAIM is able to set up redirs, I just need a way to add new redirs manually06:57
BrokenNub  I can't tell if there is some problem with my GPU or something, but seeing as the onboard one doesn't display anything at all, ever, my other one will have to work [and no, neither the digitial nor analog displays work, they both just stop] . </long_rant>06:58
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e-HernickBrokenNub: does the 7.04 32-bit CD work?06:58
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BrokenNubI haven't tried that one yet06:58
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oskudehi, wheres "System -> Administration -> Disks" in feisty ?06:59
godzirraHow come my laptop is defaulting to 640x480 or 800x600 resolution?06:59
e-HernickBrokenNub: have you tried disabling the GPU you aren't using? If you've got unused onboard VGA, you can probably turn it off06:59
Paddy_EIREBrokenNub: no point in using 64bit unless you need to06:59
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WeKiDYipeee!06:59
Paddy_EIREBrokenNub: stick with 3206:59
e-Hernickgodzirra: because Ubuntu is prone to misprobing your video capabilities06:59
WeKiDI love ubuntu!06:59
godzirraHow do I change it?06:59
nberkope1BrokenNub: 64bit is always dicey, whether windows or ubuntu06:59
e-Hernickgodzirra: Well, what video driver are you using?06:59
zorzedamn, i have 64 bit06:59
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Paddy_EIRE!fixres07:00
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:00
TiggzzzHi, I'm currently trying to follow the post about the freedom DVB-t USB stick, and myth tv. I am not used to asking for help with pc's but this new world of ubuntu has got me beaten.07:00
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jorggis pidgin aviable in the repo? ro do I have to wait on gutsy?07:00
oskudeor where can i find info what to write to /etc/fstab that an ext3 partition is mounted automaticly as read/write for all users ? (as this is missing it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions)07:00
ikeeHey I just installed Ubuntu. When i boot on the ubuntu system i starts loading goes ino a black screen with text. Last two sentences are:"/dev/sbd1 has gone 49710 days without being checked, check forced" and "/dev/sdb1:|====                         - 24.2%" and then i freezes.... any idea how to fix that... tried rebooting several times now without success07:00
geniijorgg: Get it at getdeb07:00
Paddy_EIREjorgg: you can get it from getdeb.net07:00
TiggzzzI have the firmware drivers, which should have been obtained via the terminal, but I didn't have permission, so I found them elsewhere07:00
jorggokat thanks!07:00
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Paddy_EIREjorgg: or build it from source from there main site07:01
godzirraThanks, let me go read.07:01
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Tiggzzznow I have them in a dir, how the hell do I use them!!07:01
SineFatochmod +x will make things executeable right?07:01
e-Hernickikee: it's possible that your hard drive has problems. And it's pretty obvious that your clock doesn't keep time.07:01
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e-Hernickikee: do you have another OS installed on that computer?07:01
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stdinSineFato: yes07:02
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e-HernickSineFato: yes07:02
zorzedo external modems generaly work well with ubuntu?07:02
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ikeeE-hernick: Vista.... is that the problem?07:02
e-Hernickzorze: if they are real modems connected through a serial port, yes, they usually work fine07:02
ikeetrying to dualboot07:02
nberkope1zorze: in general, any hardware that's fairly recent will play well07:03
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e-Hernickikee: no, Ubuntu plays well with other OS.. Do you have two hard drives?07:03
zorzeserial port? what is this the 80s07:03
quanquani do not think so07:03
Aye|http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522223, can anyone help me with that problem?07:03
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e-Hernickzorze: we're talking about modems07:03
nberkope1zorze: did you mean cable modems or oldschool ones?07:03
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zorzedial up07:03
e-Hernickzorze: as in, 56k modems07:03
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e-Hernickzorze: real modems use serial ports. PCI or USB modems are likely to be windows-only softmodems07:04
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SineFatoi did the chmod thing but it still wont let me run this thing07:04
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Paddy_EIRESineFato: this thing?07:04
e-HernickSineFato: if the executable is in your current directory, you need to run it with the full path, or prefix it with ./07:04
ikeee-Henick No it's a sata 320gb parted into 5 partitions. 1 for vista 1 ext3 ubuntu 1 swap 1 vista backup07:04
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e-Hernickikee: and you're quite sure the drive itself is fine? Does the fsck always stop at 24.2%?07:05
SineFatoPaddy_eire: It's a game (for linux) im trying to get to work07:05
zorzeare modems that use serial ports available in stores like staples/ circuit city?07:05
Paddy_EIRESineFato: oh, which game?07:05
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e-Hernickzorze: this is old-school technology... I suggest you pick up something off ebay, 56k modems haven't evolved in many many years07:05
ikeee-hernick: It usually stops at around 30% sometimes a little more07:06
SineFatoe-hernick: i tried that and i got "./uplin: symbol lookup error: ./uplin: undefined symbol: __glutRoot"07:06
SineFatopaddy_EIRE: uplink07:06
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Fazackhi all07:06
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SineFatopaddy_EIRE: when i copied i messed up and called it uplin and i have no idea how to rename07:06
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FazackThis is my first hour on Ubuntu Feisty and I am very impressed07:07
agent47ais there a way to search for packages with apt-get?07:07
e-Hernickagent47a: apt-cache search <package-name>07:07
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agent47athanks e-hernick07:07
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zorzethere has to be some kind of 56k modem that will work with ubuntu available in regular stores. Am i right07:07
e-Hernickzorze: not necessarily, modems are old tech07:07
Paddy_EIRESineFato: seems interesting...the game that is07:07
Aye|http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522223, can anyone help me with that problem?07:07
palintheus-workzorze, most are winmodems, not actual hardware modems07:07
Paddy_EIRESineFato: right click the file and rename it07:08
Paddy_EIRE:\07:08
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zorzei don't care what kind it is, just as long as it will work07:08
SineFatopaddy_EIRE: rename is greyed out07:08
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anto9uszorze: best get an external modem, most of them will work07:08
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zorzeincluding the USB ones?07:08
palintheus-workwinmodems are software modems, and usually won't work07:08
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Paddy_EIRESineFato: did you try using the cp command07:08
e-Hernickget an external *serial* modem, none of those USB things07:08
HeygabeWhere are the media files for Sound effects kept in Ubuntu?07:08
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SineFatopaddy_EIRE: and rename in the terminal just confuses me07:08
e-Hernickno, external USB modems = risky07:08
Am2Uhi07:08
rocketspalintheus-work, winmodems will work if you use linuxant.com drivers i think07:09
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rocketspalintheus-work, I could be wrong07:09
Am2Ui have ubuntu fiesty07:09
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SineFatopaddy_EIRE: yeah, it's in the directory and not the cd07:09
e-HernickMy suggestion is to get a USR/3com 56k v.everything external modem, a Courier or a Sportster07:09
Am2Uand i was trying to get 5.1 sound to work07:09
e-Hernickthere are many of them on ebay at any given time07:09
palintheus-workrockets, just what I have heard so I steer clear...07:09
Am2Uhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto07:09
Paddy_EIRESineFato: you cant rename a file already written to disk/cd07:09
Am2Ui followed this guide07:09
e-Hernickthe U.S.Robotics 56k V.everything Courier External modem is pretty much the ultimate modem07:09
Am2Uand now well my right rear right front and center play07:09
Am2Ufine07:09
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ikeee-hernick: It usually stops at around 30% sometimes a little more sometimes a little less07:10
Am2Ubut the left and left rear are not playing07:10
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SineFatoPaddy_EIRE: then whats the point of the rename option int eh right click?07:10
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Paddy_EIREPaddy_EIRE: errr, are you serious07:10
Paddy_EIRElol07:10
neverblueAm2U, can you keep them to one liners?07:10
e-Hernickikee: I don't know what's causing this... You could try running a hard drive test utility to make sure your HD is fine..07:10
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Paddy_EIREwhy yes I am07:10
e-Hernickikee: you could try reinstalling Ubuntu07:10
e-Hernickikee: you could try installing Ubuntu on another hard drive07:10
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SineFatoPaddy_EIRE: uh... i dont get it07:11
Am2Uhey guys some one please help me out :)07:11
Paddy_EIRESineFato: are you serious....you can rename files but how can you possibly rename a file that has been burned to a disc :\07:11
gorrzAm2U, whats the prob07:11
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SineFatoPaddy_EIRE: no no no its on the hard drive not the CD07:11
Am2Uumm i have ubuntu fiesty07:11
neverblue:)07:11
Am2Uand 5.1 speakers07:11
Am2UNVDIA on board sound07:11
zorzedo US Robotics new internal modems work?07:11
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neverblueAm2U, one liners, please07:11
palintheus-work!patience > Am2U07:11
Am2USounMax07:11
Paddy_EIRESineFato: oh, must be a permissions thing07:11
e-HernickAm2U: try to describe your problem on a single line07:12
Am2Usorry07:12
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neverblueAm2U, what have you done to troubleshoot?07:12
Paddy_EIRESineFato: 'gksudo nautilus' then try and rename07:12
e-Hernickzorze: maybe, if they're real modems. Check the compatibility before buying.07:12
KaurIf i try to install a 686 kernel on feisty, I get something like: udev hook script requires at least 2.6.16... My kernel is 2.6.15. Does that mean there's no way to install it on feisty?07:12
zorzewill do07:12
Paddy_EIRESineFato: when you chmod the file you must have done so with sudo or something07:12
Am2UI am running on Ubuntu fiesty and tried to get 5.1 surround sound to work . I followed this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto) and well now all the right channel speakers are working . i.e - right front , rear and center07:13
Am2Uleft rear and surround are not working07:13
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SineFatoPaddy_EIRE: it wouldn't let me do it without sudo07:13
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e-HernickAm2U: I suppose you checked the "balance" setting in the mixer, and that the balance isn't all the way to the right?07:13
Paddy_EIREAm2U: are you certain that there plugged in correctly07:13
Am2Uall jacks plugged properly and yea i checked the balance too07:14
Am2Uthe sound is perfect on windows07:14
neverblueAm2U, is the volumes adjusted?07:14
neverblueAm2U, then maybe you should just use windows :)07:14
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Am2Uwell i love linux07:14
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Paddy_EIRE:D07:14
FalstiusAm2U: linux 4 life ;)07:14
Am2Uall most everything is working , including mp3 , dvds - just the sound is a bummer07:14
BrokenNubso it appears that my Ubuntu install is failing at some part of the graphics initialization, any way I can find out exactly what it's doing [or not doing]  ?07:15
e-HernickAm2U: in your mixer app, set the preferences so that you can see the volume controls for every channel, and make sure you don't have a left channel somewhere turned off07:15
anto9usAm2U: good answer, have you run alsamixer and played around in there?07:15
Am2UFalstius, true :)07:15
Falstiuswell, atleast until indiana is more stable.07:15
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Am2Uyea checked alsamixer too07:15
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Aye|http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522223, can anyone help me with that problem?07:15
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neverblueAm2U, did you check the forums for your sound card?07:15
Paddy_EIREAm2U: you tried the forums07:15
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Am2Uyes i have07:16
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neverblueand?07:16
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godzirraCan anyone help me get my xorg working with the nvidia driver?  I seem to be having trouble getting it to work.07:16
neverblueothers having success, issues?07:16
Am2Uand thats how i found the link to get it working partially07:16
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e-Hernickgodzirra: what did you try, what still isn't working?07:16
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neverbluegodzirra, did you download the one from the nvidia site?07:16
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Am2Uhowever when i tick stereo downmix07:17
zorzeok , US Robitics says "powerful communication processing functions built right into the modem itself'' so it sounds like a real modem07:17
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Am2Uit works07:17
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Am2Ubut the sound quality is poor then07:17
anto9usgodzirra: try this http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu2_all.deb07:17
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Paddy_EIREAm2U: hmm, thats a very odd problem...07:18
godzirraI havent downloaded anything from nvidia's site...07:18
godzirraI've just tried configuring via nvidia-xconfig and using that xorg.conf07:18
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anto9usgodzirra: that link I just pasted will download and configure for you07:18
neverbluegodzirra, so no guide to go by?07:18
godzirraneverblue: havent been able to find any yet, no.07:19
Am2UPaddy_EIRE, yep .. any workaround ?07:19
neverbluegodzirra, what ever you do, dont use ENVY07:19
neverblueas anto9us posted07:19
neverbluegodzirra, are you using Feisty?07:19
godzirrauhh ok.  why not?07:19
godzirraI'm using feisty yes.07:19
neverblueim not stopping you, go ahead07:19
godzirraIf you have another solution I'm all for it.07:19
godzirraI just want to get it working.07:20
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neverbluedid you enable the 'restricted drivers manager' ?07:20
anto9usgodzirra: envy worked well yesterday on my feisty install, worth a shot, backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf before you start07:20
godzirraI don't think so?07:20
shriphaniis there a particular way one can extract the pid of any app. using netstat.07:20
godzirraBut I think it was enabled to begin with07:20
godzirrasince I have a wireless driver thats restricted.07:20
neverbluegodzirra, check07:20
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Paddy_EIREgodzirra: then there is your problem I already asked you in ubuntu-effects :\07:21
Am2Uwhats is HDSPmixer ?07:21
ZambeziIs anyone here skilled on LUKS how can help me i private with a faulty drive? It seems like LUKS destroyed it and it's a major important harddrive.07:21
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godzirraPaddy_EIRE: Which problem?07:21
godzirraneverblue: how?07:21
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SineFatowhats the delete command in terminal?07:21
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DankerHi07:21
W8TAHim preparing to use IPTABLES as  a firewall -- anyone here able / willing to help me get it configured -- im new to iptables firewalls07:21
Paddy_EIREgodzirra: follow neverblue advice07:21
neverbluegodzirra, under System07:21
primskirm07:21
godzirraPaddy_EIRE: I started trying to fix the resolution problem, realized I was running on the vesa drivers, and havent tried anythingh else.07:21
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godzirraneverblue: Currently X isn't running.07:21
DankerSineFato: rm rmdir07:21
palintheus-workSineFato, rm07:21
SineFatoDanker: thank you07:22
neverblueGodTodd, then, can you browse the web?07:22
neverblueops, godzirra07:22
anto9usshriphani: -p option does that07:22
godzirravia lynx07:22
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Paddy_EIREneverblue maybe he has a backup of his previous xorg.conf or he can use the nv driver for the mean time07:22
godzirraor on another computer.07:22
neverbluegodzirra, so you cannot enter gnome?07:22
godzirraLet me try and use my old xorg.conf I guess.07:22
godzirraone sec07:22
neverbluegodzirra, um, wait a sec07:22
shriphanianto9us: thanks.07:23
godzirra.ok07:23
godzirra?07:23
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neverbluegodzirra, enter gnome, then use the restricted..., if you need a hand getting into gnome, I can assist07:23
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neverblueelse, here is a link, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Beta_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2907:23
godzirraI'm in gnome again using my old setup.07:23
neverbluegodzirra, direct further questions to #ubuntu-effects07:23
Am2Uokay i think i have some diagnosis07:23
godzirrak07:24
bulmerW8TAH: here is a very good tutorial that i also have used ttp://www.linuxexposed.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=10707:24
neverbluethey can setup beryl if you want :)07:24
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DankerCould somebody suggest a good (tree) chart, diagram, schemes making program (something like oo.o draw or ms powerpoint, but more specialized)?07:24
Am2Uwhen i mute the center channel the sound still plays from the center channel but when i mute the front , the center stops laying07:24
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W8TAHexcellent07:24
Aye|http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522223, can anyone help me with that problem?07:24
godzirraneverblue: that page has nothing on it.07:25
anto9usDanker: dia07:25
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godzirraOr I typoed it.07:25
godzirrahrm.07:25
Paddy_EIREgodzirra: use the restricted driver manager07:25
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Am2UPaddy_EIRE, does it throw some light on my problem ?07:25
godzirraPaddy_EIRE: I'm not entirely how you mean for me to use it.  I opened it up and it shows myt wireless card.07:25
Paddy_EIREAm2U: huh...?07:25
MasterShrekAye|, i would say you might need to disable framebuffer07:26
Aye|interesting07:26
Aye|will try that07:26
Am2Uwhen i mute the center channel the sound still plays from the center channel but when i mute the front , the center stops laying07:26
Aye|ty07:26
Paddy_EIREgodzirra: what video card exactly do you have07:26
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neverbluegodzirra, you should remove the , at the end of it07:26
godzirranvidia 8400m JS07:26
godzirraGS07:26
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neverblueoh, sorry07:26
neverbluethere wasnt one07:26
zorzei found one compatible US Robotics internal for $75  (!!!) and an external for  $95 (!!!!!!!)  I am begining to doubt weather linux is an economical alternative07:26
MasterShrekAye|, or maybe put a different vga= line in your grub/menu.list07:26
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Am2UPaddy_EIRE, i did some tweaking like you said and i found out something07:27
sil3nt|warri0rhello friends07:27
Aye|where do i find that07:27
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neverbluegodzirra, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy07:27
sil3nt|warri0ri just install ubuntu from the cd07:27
Paddy_EIREzorze: the os was free what are you talking about07:27
sil3nt|warri0rbut there is a prob07:27
rocketszorze, my modem works just fine07:27
sil3nt|warri0rthere was fedora on the same hdd07:27
Am2UPaddy_EIRE, when i mute the center channel the sound still plays from the center channel but when i mute the front , the center stops laying07:27
neverbluesil3nt|warri0r, can you keep it to one line?07:27
BrokenNubhow I do tell all aptitude and such to install to /home instead of / or somewhere else ?07:27
rocketszorze, its integrated into my laptop though07:27
palintheus-workzorze, have you checked ebay, and remember you didn't pay 200+ for the OS07:27
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sil3nt|warri0rk, trying07:27
Paddy_EIREzorze: would you like Mark Shuttleworth to give you a free foot massage too :P07:27
zorzePaddy-  yes, but that is besides the point07:28
rocketszorze, because he will, if itll get you to use ubuntu :-P07:28
Paddy_EIRElol07:28
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fubar6760ok, here is whats buggin me, i have my ubuntu machine connected to my windows network, and i can see the ubuntu machine from the windows computer, however when i try to view the ubuntu machine its asks for a username and password, i have tried all the usernames and passwords i have, does anyone know how to diable and or the universal username and password for this login07:28
Aye|MasterShrek, wheres this menu.list07:28
anto9uszorze: get a used one from a tech recycling place if there's on near you07:28
sil3nt|warri0rfirst thing is that i didnt install the grub from ubuntu on my hdd, it was already installed, but how d i configure grub to boot ubuntu ??07:28
neverbluefubar6760, samba?07:28
MasterShrekAye|, /boot/grub/menu.list07:28
fubar6760yes samba07:29
Aye|ok07:29
fubar6760ive looked through all that07:29
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Aye|ill try all that07:29
fubar6760set it up07:29
neverbluefubar6760, can you check the sama logs, for any errors?07:29
geniifubar6760: smbpasswd -ae <username>07:29
godzirraneverblue: ok, followed those instructions.07:29
godzirratrying to  restart now, though I've already done most of that before.07:29
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fubar6760yea when i restart samba it says there is an error, but i continues to restart fine07:29
sil3nt|warri0rand i installed ubuntu on reiserFS07:29
neverbluegodzirra, were the restricted drivers enabled07:30
fubar6760it*07:30
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zorzethis is getting to be too much hassle, the only reason i switched to ubunto was for RAW packet support...07:30
neverbluesil3nt|warri0r, why reiser?07:30
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Paddy_EIREgodzirra: key word is 'Most' not 'all' ;)07:30
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zorzebut i am not giving up just yet07:30
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sil3nt|warri0ri just want to try another fs, and reiser is good07:30
neverbluefubar6760, maybe explain what the error is, just cause it exists?07:30
fubar6760any ideas for this username and password nonsense07:30
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neverbluesil3nt|warri0r, do you know much about it?07:30
dxdtI can't wait for the next reiser.  I think that one will kick ass.07:30
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sil3nt|warri0rno07:31
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fubar6760nevermind now it has no errors07:31
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godzirra Paddy_EIRE, we'll see if that was the keyword ;)07:31
neverbluesil3nt|warri0r, well, long story short, the guy who made it is now in prison for murdering his wife, so its not supported atm, but others are trying to keep it going07:31
godzirraNope, that didn't work.07:31
fubar6760when i open gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf07:32
godzirraFailed to initialize NVIDIA graphics device07:32
RichardCraniumI got a reboot, control+alt+delete problem. If I use those comands my computer shuts down software wise but it won't tickle the computer to make it reboot or restart. It just hangs and I have crawl under my desk and pull the plug. Any Ideas where I should turn?07:32
neverbluegodzirra, X isnt loading, or what is the issue?07:32
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bulmersil3nt|warri0r: pay someone to make it work?07:32
fubar6760i dont change anything that i dont need to07:32
fubar6760i just want to get rid of this username and password nonsense07:32
neverbluegodzirra, can you edit the xorg.conf yourself?07:32
godzirraneverblue: after running the nvidia-xconfig when it tries to restart X, it tells me Fatal error: No screens found.07:32
godzirraYup.07:32
leonard_hey, I have a pretty pitiful amount of ram, so I thought it might be a good idea to disable some of the services that I don't need. Does anyone know of any guides to do this?07:32
RichardCraniumI works in recovery mode boot up though.07:32
neverblueduals?07:32
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bulmerRichardCranium: what do you want? to reboot after a shutdown?07:33
neverbluerestricted driver enabled?07:33
sil3nt|warri0rhow do i configure grub to boot ubuntu ??07:33
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MasterShreksil3nt|warri0r, it shold auto-configure07:33
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patateIs there a way to apt-get install (or whatever) a package that provide a service... such as bind, apache, dhcpd-server, etc and PREVENT IT to start the service... basically I want to deboostrap ubuntu, chroot into and install packages that wont mess with the host07:33
sil3nt|warri0rit did not07:33
RichardCraniumbulmer, yes shutdown works but not reboot07:33
trtdfsdfis there a russian here07:33
godzirraneverblue: does it s ay that in the xorg.conf somewhere?07:33
MasterShrek!grub | sil3nt|warri0r07:33
ubotusil3nt|warri0r: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:33
W8TAHthis is gonna sound a bit dumb, but here goes.  I am working on learning iptables, the tutorial im using says to go to /usr/src/linux and make menuconfig to check some setitngs in the kernel - -im familiar with doing this (repeatedly) from my days in gentoo -- however /usr/src/linux doesnt exist -- is it possible to check my kernel config in ubuntu?07:34
fubar6760so no ideas on the username and password prompt when trying to connect to an ubuntu machine from a windows machine07:34
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neverbluegodzirra, do you have dual screens?07:34
bulmerRichardCranium: have you tried as root.... shutdown -r now   command?07:34
godzirrano07:34
tr0picanahello07:34
neverblue!patience | fubar676007:34
ubotufubar6760: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:34
godzirraI have two computers, I'm ircing on one and installing ubuntu on the other.07:34
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anto9usfubar6760: try - sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=<windows user>,workgroup=<workgroup>,gid=smb,uid=<user>,fmask=770,dmask=770,rw <share> <mountpoint>07:34
godzirraerr, working on ubuntu I mean07:34
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rocketsW8TAH, its /usr/src/linux/2.6. whatever07:34
MasterShrekW8TAH, you need to install the kernel source, its in the repos07:34
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MishuIs there some way to see the ftp username created from my remote shell?07:34
W8TAHthanks07:34
RichardCraniumbulmer, yes same result, it hangs07:34
neverbluegodzirra, is that computer we are talking about, does it have dual screens?07:34
sil3nt|warri0rmy grub is there in MBR, when i installed fedora07:34
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Mishuand password aslo?07:34
tr0picanacan anybody help me set up my wireless internet on my laptop?07:34
MasterShrekW8TAH, atcually i think u need the headers07:34
TABASCO-07Hi07:34
neverblue!wireless | tr0picana07:35
ubotutr0picana: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:35
W8TAHoh - ok07:35
godzirraneverblue: no.  Its a laptop.07:35
sil3nt|warri0rbut now just because i installed ubuntu, i  need to configure grub07:35
TABASCO-07Is there a special channel for gutsy?07:35
sil3nt|warri0rhow ?07:35
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neverbluegodzirra, so no duals, did you enable the restricted drivers?07:35
MasterShrekTABASCO-07, #ubuntu+107:35
tr0picanabut ubuntu is not recognizing my wireless card07:35
RichardCraniumbulmer, would the usplash screen have anything to do with it?07:35
TABASCO-07MasterShrek: thank07:35
TABASCO-07s07:35
shriphaniis there a networking channel somewhere on freenode? I am sorry i posted this here but i dunno where else to ask.07:35
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neverblue!ask | shriphani07:36
ubotushriphani: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:36
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willey0000I keep on grtting a errer code for add/Remove Programs when ever i try to add A new progran/packege. I NEED HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!07:36
anto9usshriphani: type /msg chanserv list *networking*07:36
neverblue!patience | willey000007:36
shriphaniok.07:36
ubotuwilley0000: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:36
bulmerRichardCranium: when it hangs..where does it hangs..and did you look at the /var/log/messages after a reboot?07:36
godzirraneverblue: I don't know how to do that.  I clicked on restricted driver manager when I was in X before I tried that link, and it told me that I had a wireless driver that was enabled.07:36
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godzirraOther than that I dont know how I'm supposed to enable restricted drivers...07:36
RichardCraniumbulmer, can the usplash screen be disabled?07:36
MasterShrek!synaptic | willey000007:37
ubotuwilley0000: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto07:37
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neverbluegodzirra, the restricted driver manager would have installed your latest nvidia driver for you07:37
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neverbluegodzirra, unless you didnt use it07:37
neverbluegodzirra, so, ill ask again, did you use it to grab the latest nvidia drivers?07:37
godzirraIt didnt.  I followed the insttructions on that site you said.07:37
bulmerW8TAH: iptables modules is by default installed in the kernel..verify via   iptables -vL07:37
godzirraIt didnt say anything about the restricted driver manager... so probably not.07:38
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neverbluegodzirra, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx07:38
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RichardCraniumbulmer, the system does shutdown the computer just won't go back and reboot bios and the scsi bios etc. order of the boot sequence07:38
fubar6760im unsure how to you the sudo mount commands07:38
neverbluethen nvidia-xconfig ?07:38
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godzirrayes I did that07:38
bulmerRichardCranium: possibly..i dont am not sure how to disable it..or rather didnt notice the splashcreen option for grub07:38
neverblueok, did you do sudo ?07:38
neverblueor just the command..07:38
godzirrayes07:38
pike_!mount | fubar676007:38
ubotufubar6760: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter07:38
W8TAHbulmer: ok - -cool07:38
fubar6760i did sudo07:38
neverblueok, look at your xorg.conf07:39
W8TAHbulmer: that makes life a lot easier07:39
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neverblueyou should see the nvidia driver07:39
godzirraIt installed it to /home/shawn/xorg.conf, and I copied it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:39
neverbluenot the nv07:39
bulmerRichardCranium: sounsd more like the boot up process is failing? not the shutdown?07:39
sil3nt|warri0ranyone, for how to configure grub so that it boots two OS fedora and ubuntu07:39
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sil3nt|warri0r??07:39
godzirraIt is using nvidia.07:39
neverblueok, thats step one07:39
bulmersil3nt|warri0r: you ever tried to look up some tutorials on google for dual booting?07:39
neverbluenow, open a shell, or exit that .conf, and do lspci07:39
sil3nt|warri0ryea, still trying07:40
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neverblueyou should see your device07:40
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pike_sil3nt|warri0r: its possible just reinstalling grub in ubuntu might setup menu.lst for ya but i dunno07:40
godzirraneverblue: its listed as an unknown device from nVidia corporation07:40
godzirraVGA compatible controller07:40
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bulmersil3nt|warri0r: well basically on the menu.lst both os have entries where their bootable vmlinuz-xxxx is located07:40
fubar6760i dont believe i need to mount anything, i just need to add the ubuntu machine to the windows network. when i got that acompllished it said type in username and password, i looked at the screen blankly and tried the root password and my username, but that of course did not work07:40
neverbluecopy the whole line please, (just the one line)07:40
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Falstiussil3nt|warri0r: basically, just copy one of the entries for ubuntu (or fedora) in /boot/grub/menu.1st and change it to point to the other installation and kernel.  You'll have to change the root, kernel and initrd lines (and title)07:41
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godzirra01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0427 (rev a1)07:41
MasterShrekwhats that command to change my usplash? there was a command that would bring up a little menu in a terminal07:41
MasterShrekupdate-alternatives or something07:42
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burhanfubar6760: are you trying to add to a domain?07:42
Falstiussil3nt|warri0r: this is actually a little easier/cleaner if the two systems share a /boot partition.07:42
neverbluegodzirra, open your xorg.conf again please07:42
godzirraok07:42
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fubar6760no just a workgroup07:42
burhanfubar6760: just edit your smb.conf07:42
fubar6760ok, thats the gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf07:42
fubar6760right?07:43
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neverbluegodzirra, in the device section, you should see BusID "PCI:1:0:0"07:43
neverbluegodzirra, is that correct?07:43
sil3nt|warri0rwhen i installed ubuntu fron the live cd , it didnit ask for any /boot, but swap and /07:43
godzirraNope.07:43
godzirraIts in my original config, but not this one.07:43
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neverbluegodzirra, there is the issue, so change that07:43
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neverbluegodzirra, now keep xorg.conf open07:43
neverblueand scroll to the ServerLayout07:43
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[Thom] How can I update from SVN v1.3 to SVN v1.4 on Ubuntu?07:44
neverblueadd this, after the last line in the section: '        Option          "Xinerama"      "on" '07:44
the-dashis there an easy way to set up Evolution's filter to not interpret sent messages as new mail ?07:44
RichardCraniumbulmer, oh well I will have to get a remote controlled wall outlet :=)07:44
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godzirrapl07:45
godzirraerr ok07:45
neverblue:/07:45
neverbluegodzirra, save it, then restart07:45
bulmerRichardCranium: huh? too far for you?07:45
burhanfubar6760: yes07:45
neverbluegodzirra, btw, you can have duals with a laptop :)07:45
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gnurphis mon^rch still out there?07:46
bulmerRichardCranium: getting up and stretching is good for blood circulations... :)07:46
RichardCraniumbulmer, I will see what happens with no splash in the menu.1st07:46
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godzirraOptions isn't valid in server layout...07:46
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neverbluei said add it :)07:46
RichardCraniumbulmer, thanks07:46
fubar6760ok07:46
godzirraRight... but its not a valid option in Server LAyout07:46
RichardCraniumbulmer, ha07:46
godzirradid you mean in extensions?07:46
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s0nixhi07:46
neverbluegodzirra, in the ServerLayout07:46
darkhack a new version anytime soon?07:46
neverblueis it option, or Option ?07:46
s0nixanyone know what can i use for test my gigabit local network ?07:46
fubar6760what exactly do i need to change in gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf to disable the password prompt07:47
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fubar6760ive tried everything07:47
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darkhackhey all07:47
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godzirraoops... I may have put Options instead of Option.07:47
neverblue!samba | fubar676007:47
ubotufubar6760: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT07:47
godzirraBut its still not working.07:47
Vino|I'm trying to set up a DNS and a DHCP server so that any computer leased by DHCP gets an entry in DNS. I did all the ddns-update stuff in /etc/dhcpd.conf but I can't seem to get it to work, any suggestions?07:47
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neverbluegodzirra, error?07:47
MasterShreks0nix, your gigabit lan isnt going to be any faster to the outside, just internal traffic wll be gigabit07:47
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godzirraNVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device07:47
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godzirrathe part after that -may- say "on PCI:1:0:0"07:47
neverbluegodzirra, please post your lspci and xorg.conf on pastebin for me07:47
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neverblue!pastebin | godzirra07:48
godzirraits hard to tell because the gui stuff is wacky.07:48
ubotugodzirra: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:48
MasterShrekgodzirra, what kinda of card?07:48
godzirranvidia 8400M GS07:48
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MasterShrekgodzirra, you probably have to use drivers from nvidia site07:48
Shayeewook?07:48
MasterShreki always do, and never have problems07:48
Shayeare u still there07:48
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darkhackAnyone know howto set folder and media on the right side of the desktop as default?07:48
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MasterShrekdarkhack, what do yuo mean?07:49
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neverbluegodzirra, while your at it, you might want to add /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:49
Ecalixtrying to point non-existant (turned off onboard sound after install in bios) /dev/dsp to usb sound /dev/dsp1. any ideas how to make this work?07:49
shriphanianto9us: is there any alternative to netstat -p ?07:49
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neverbluegodzirra, just so I can see the error07:49
ferronicaany one here who can help me in configuring Evolution mail for Yahoo mail ???07:49
MasterShrekEcalix, sudo ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp07:49
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shriphaniI want a whitespace before the pid.07:50
jacobatI am trying to upgrade postgresql, so I did "apt-get remove postgresql-8.1"... but dpkg -l still show's it and there's still stuff in /etc regarding 8.1?07:50
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MasterShrekferronica, does yahoo support pop3 or imap?07:50
EcalixMasterShrek, tried that actually. doesnt seem to work. and upon reboot it is removed07:50
Shayei installed my eggdrop it joined the network all good but it doesn't respond, i did /msg nick hello, /msg nick pass etc but nothing07:50
godzirrathe log is paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3325807:50
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neverblueShaye, i dont think this is the appropriate channel for discussing bots07:50
W8TAHbulmer: it appears that iptables is there -- however, the HOWTO im using asks me to do cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack which is returning a no such file or directory error (confirmed by inspection) --07:50
ferronicaMasterShrek: dont know ,i am new in linux   :(07:50
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godzirrathe xorg.conf is paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3325907:50
MasterShrekthats not even a linux think ferronica, thats a matter of if yahoo supports pop3 or imap, and (correct me if im wrong) i dont believe they do07:51
darkhack<MasterShrek> What I meant was I want my folders and mdeia icons to be on the right side on the desktop as default. Sort of like osx07:51
anto9usshriphani: I think lsof will do it but don't ask me how07:51
gnurphanybody have any experience using a KVM switch with ubuntu-desktop?07:51
P-Kis there a way to make exceptions in cron rules? Like I want something to run every 40 min except on a certain day.07:51
bulmerW8TAH: the ip_conntrack modules for packet tracking has to be installed..dont worry it will be there when you get things going07:51
osxdude|laptopdon't say osx say os x07:51
godzirrathe lspci is paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3326007:51
MasterShrekdarkhack, move them over there?07:51
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W8TAHcool07:51
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W8TAHbulmer: thanks -- i think im still too used to gentoo at this point07:52
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willey0000I need help on this messige comeing up. E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. Please Help07:52
bulmerW8TAH: you would not understand the meaning of those packets yet anyways for now...so create the rules and test the iptables07:52
ferronicaMasterShrek: you mean yahoo wont work on evolution ?07:52
neverbluegodzirra, could have put them all in one post :P07:52
Falstiussil3nt|warri0r: you don't need a /boot partition (and it won't be created automatically), it just makes installing multiple linux distros less confusing (each with their own /boot but only 1 that works)07:52
W8TAHbulmer: ok - -cool by me -- im just working my way through the howto07:52
darkhack<MasterShrek> Yeah, but when you insert a cd or dvde, it place on the leftside07:52
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bulmerW8TAH: okay good luck07:52
W8TAHthanks07:53
MasterShrekferronica, does it work in a windows mail client (outlook, thunderbird, etc.)?07:53
MasterShrekdarkhack, cry07:53
godzirraSorry.  Figured it was easy to open extra tabs in FF than to scroll around to find the start and stop points. ;)07:53
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ferronicaMasterShrek: never tried :(07:53
godzirraneverblue: should I try and install the newest driver from nvidia?07:53
godzirrafirst?07:53
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neverblueMasterShrek, why did you suggest the drivers from the Nvidia site, because its a newer card?07:53
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MasterShrekyea neverblue07:53
neverbluegodzirra, in my experience, no07:53
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neverblueMasterShrek, you could be right :)07:53
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darkhack<MasterShrek> lol it ok and I might have to do some research and maybe hack around07:53
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MasterShrekferronica, apparently yahoo supports imap now07:54
ferronicaMasterShrek: then what is the purpose of giving Evolution mail  ?07:54
cliente3christian07:54
darkhackAnyone running gutsy right now?07:54
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Montaro6darkhack: I am.07:55
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MasterShrekferronica, evolution is a mail client, it downloads your emails to your pc before or as you read them07:55
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neverbluegodzirra, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingUbuntuOnADellXPSM133007:55
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ferronicaMasterShrek: right now i am trying to configure evolution mail07:55
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sil3nt|warri0ri did like this, root (hd0,1), the ubuntu is in /dev/sda5 partition07:55
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sil3nt|warri0ris it ok ?07:55
neverbluethanks nixternal07:55
darkhack<Montaro6> How is it looking so far right now?07:55
nixternalno prob07:55
ferronicaMasterShrek: server type = imap ?07:56
MasterShrekyes ferronica07:56
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MasterShrekthe server you want is imap.next.mail.yahoo.com07:56
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MasterShreki believe07:56
godzirraneverblue: that only shows me that its possible. ;)07:56
neverbluegodzirra, yep :)07:56
MasterShrekfor the smtp server just change that imap to smtp07:56
godzirraok, I guess I'm going to try nvidia's driver.07:56
neverbluegodzirra, I really dont think you added the nvidia driver properly07:56
ferronicaMasterShrek: under configuration , server = ?07:56
godzirraneverblue: I followed the instructions explicitly.07:56
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MasterShrekgodzirra, make sure you have build-essential installed07:57
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neverbluegodzirra, you can add it without the site07:57
godzirraits not like it was hard. ;p07:57
neverbluehehe07:57
Montaro6darkhack: Fine so far. I do find a few issues with updating packages.. sometimes something will break, but that has to be expected. The worst thing so far as about 2 months ago I did a dist-upgrade and it updated udevd and it kept doing 100% cpu usage, but other than that its been fine really.. a little bit of hacking sometimes with package install scripts07:57
neverblueyeah07:57
MasterShrekferronica, still under the imap configuration?07:57
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ferronicaMasterShrek: yes07:57
godzirraI'm not a noob to linux or ubuntu... just not great with figuring out X problems ;)07:57
neverbluegodzirra, try in #ubuntu-effects, bofore you hit the site07:57
Montaro6darkhack: as long as you can come to terms with the fact that it is beta software, then its quite good07:57
MasterShrekferronica:  imap.next.mail.yahoo.com07:57
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Ecalixtrying to point non-existant (turned off onboard sound after install in bios) /dev/dsp to usb sound /dev/dsp1. any ideas how to make this work? tried doing a symlink but it didnt seem to help at all07:57
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neverblueI have to get back to work07:57
MasterShrekgodzirra, i would guess that nvidia's driver should do the trick for ya07:58
sil3nt|warri0ris it possible to install ubuntu withour installing the grub that it provides ?07:58
godzirraalright, thanks for the help.07:58
ainsMasterShrek, PM07:58
godzirraMasterShrek: I'll try it.07:58
neverbluenp07:58
neverbluegood luck07:58
ferronicaMasterShrek: username =  my ID on yahoo07:58
sil3nt|warri0rcause i didinot saw any such option07:58
MasterShrekyes ferronica07:58
darkhack<Montaro6> What processer are you running on?07:58
sil3nt|warri0rthere was option for where to install grub, which was by default (hd0)07:58
MasterShreki dont know sil3nt|warri0r, isnt there an "Advanced" button right before the install starts? (after configuration)07:58
ferronicaMasterShrek: authentication type ??07:59
Montaro6darkhack: A 32bit Athlon XP 1900+..07:59
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sil3nt|warri0ri clicked it , and there was (hd0)07:59
MasterShrekim not sure on that ferronica, SSL probably07:59
ewookShaye: aye?07:59
sil3nt|warri0ri changed it to /dev, dont know why07:59
ewookShaye: been away07:59
darkhack<Montaro6> Oh ok,07:59
MasterShreki dont know for sure sil3nt|warri0r07:59
darkhack<Montaro6> Thanks for the info07:59
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Montaro6darkhack: np.07:59
sil3nt|warri0rbut how do i disable the grub installation ?07:59
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bobodclownLo all, im having problems with a portable USB HD (freecom 80gb), plug it in under feisty and i hear it constantly spinning up adn down and doesnt load, any ideas?08:00
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darkhackAnyone here running ubuntu on a intel core 2 quad processer?08:00
ainsMasterShrek, what am i suppsoed to edit in the grub config files?08:00
godzirraMasterShrek: that did it.08:00
ainsmenu.lst08:00
sil3nt|warri0rwill ubuntu format /boot while installing grub on hd0 ?08:00
MasterShrekyea ains08:00
sil3nt|warri0rcause thats has got my fc7 files08:00
gnurphhow do I force ubuntu's desktop to run in a specific video mode?08:00
godzirraMasterShrek: Thanks too. :)08:01
ainsMasterShrek, what am i supposed to fix, (aye|)08:01
godzirraI'm off to get some work done now before I get in trouble. ;)08:01
MasterShrekains i dont know you never told me what your problem was08:01
ainsim not sure what to change to get ubuntu to boot with my gfx card08:01
ferronicaMasterShrek: server type = SMTP or send mail08:01
ikeeAny who can tell me which partitions i need and how they should be configured(Like how to set a root)08:01
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ainshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52222308:01
ainsits Aye|08:01
MasterShrekbobodclown, is it one of those laptop hard drives in the little case?08:01
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darkhackAnyway, I'm off now and yall take care now08:01
Aye|i just booted into ubuntu with my onboard08:01
darkhackLLinux rule08:01
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darkhacklol08:01
darkhackbye08:01
bobodclownMasterShrek: yup i reckon so08:02
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ewookdarkhack: err. mkay.08:02
tr0picanahow do i get a wireless connection in ubuntu?08:02
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Shayeewook, maybe u have any idea why's my eggdrop doesn't respond to me? i've just installed it, it joined the channel/network like i edited in the config file, but it won't respond. /msg xxx hello - /msg xxx password, etc, nothing...08:02
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YouKnowMeHello, I am having problems replacing my video card. Some help?08:02
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Aye|MasterShrek, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52222308:02
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ewookShaye: telnet to it?08:03
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Shayeewook using putty?08:03
Shayeor how exactly08:03
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tr0picanahow do i see the wireless connection in the networking settings tool??08:03
MasterShrekAye|, try adding the line: vga=normal   to your /boot/grub/menu.list08:03
ewookwell, putty into the box running the eggie, and local telnet, saves you a session :)08:03
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Aye|MasterShrek, anywhere in particular or just anywhere08:03
ewookmight just listen to localhost as well, dunno how you set it up08:03
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blackestany problems with sata and ubuntu ? i'm thinking of installing a dual boot to a sata drive08:04
MasterShrekAye|, doesnt matter, toward the top is probably the best08:04
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MasterShrekblackest, you should be alright, assuming it loads the proper sata drives on boot08:04
ferronicaMasterShrek: Unable to authenticate to IMAP server.08:04
ferronicaIMAP command failed: LOGIN failure. Invalid username or password, or invalid access08:04
YouKnowMeanybody?08:04
Aye|MasterShrek,  with a # or not08:04
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MasterShrekno #08:05
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Aye|and what about disabling framebuffer08:05
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Shayeewook, Launched into the background (pid: 14998). now it's online08:05
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andyp_hi08:05
dresdenim back08:05
dresdenhowlingmadhowie are you there08:06
ikeeAny who can tell me which partitions i need (for ubuntu)and how they should be configured(Like how to set a root and which should be Primary and logical)08:06
MasterShrekferronica, the more a look the more im thinking yahoo mail doesnt support pop08:06
MasterShrekor imap08:06
blackesti have an asrock motherboard with an 80 160 and 320 ide drives the 80 is the boot drive and its failing so i thought a nice 500gb sata might replace it (mythtv backend)08:06
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ferronicaoh08:06
Aye|MasterShrek, any disabling the framebuffer?08:06
andyp_can someone give me the name of a download software please08:06
palintheus-workikee, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning08:06
andyp_dresden: hi08:06
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benzs_sandyp_: ?08:06
MasterShrekAye|, i dont know for sure, try removing usplash maybe...i dont know if that will help or not though08:06
Vino|I'm trying to set up a DNS and a DHCP server so that any computer leased by DHCP gets an entry in DNS. I did all the ddns-update stuff in /etc/dhcpd.conf but I can't seem to get it to work, any suggestions?08:07
ikeePalintheus-work; thanks08:07
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Shayeno response ewook :/ or i am doing it wrong08:07
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andyp_benzs_s; like internet download manager in winbows08:07
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palintheus-workikee, that site has some great tutorials and info08:07
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benzs_swget08:07
benzs_sor Gwget for the GUI version08:07
YouKnowMeanybody?08:08
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ferronicaMasterShrek: www.yahoo.com don't support08:08
benzs_sYouKnowMe what are you having trouble with08:08
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andyp_benzs_s: thanks08:08
MasterShrekferronica, yahoo supports pop mail with yahoo mail plus08:08
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ferronicaMasterShrek: you mean purchased yahoo ID08:09
dresdenhi andyp_08:09
MasterShrekyea08:09
ferronicaMasterShrek: not in free ID right ?08:09
MasterShrekafk08:09
ferronicaMasterShrek: oh okay08:09
dresdenguys i think i fixed my resolution problem im going to reboot and let you all know how i did it , if it works08:09
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gnurphHi there - I'm using a KVM switch to try and manage an ubuntu-desktop'ed server.  does *anybody* have any ideas here?  when I startx, I get garbage on my screen - but if I connect a monitor to the hardware, it works fine.08:10
YouKnowMebenzs_s, I switched vid cards and I'm having problems08:10
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claudiuhi08:12
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anto9usgnurph: do you have another monitor cable for the kvm?08:12
phoenixzI want to create passwordless ssh identity files with ssh-keygen from a program, but ssh-keygen keeps asking for a password.. How do I make ssh-keygen generate a key without a password and without asking?08:12
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claudiuI am using compiz fusion and I cant fully maximize the windows08:12
m1rhow can i make exact copy of my current freshly instaled system =?08:12
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MasterShrekclaudiu, tre #ubuntu-effects08:12
dresdenargh i still cant get my resolution to stick08:12
MasterShrektry*08:12
dresdenaargghh!08:12
michal_hi08:12
geniignurph: You either need: a kvm which emulates a monitor to the computer when one is not selected or: To only startup the machine when it is the selected one until the video has finished PNP08:12
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gnurphanto9us - i've got the KVM plugged in via one set of KVM ports - and a real monitor plugged into a different video port.08:13
claudiuMasterShrek: thanks08:13
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MasterShrekm1r do you have an extra drive or partition?08:13
m1rmastershrek , yes08:13
YouKnowMesome help please?08:13
bobbocanflydoes anyone have a link to a Compiz-Fusion deb package?08:13
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gnurphthis is because - the desktop needs to autodetect the monitor type?08:13
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MasterShrekm1r, dd if=/dev/[input device]  of=/dev/[output device] 08:13
anto9usgnurph: yes, try a different cable linking the kvm video to computer08:13
dresdenhas anybody here ever made a resolution ever stick (when computer boots up, is in any resolution other than the default 1024x768)?????/08:13
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CreativeOneHi folks08:14
lgcIs there an APT expert here? Help!08:14
MasterShrek!ask YouKnowMe08:14
dresdenhi08:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask youknowme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:14
johnficcaHi08:14
pike_dresden: lcd?08:14
CreativeOnehow can i tell ubuntu tu auto-configure xorg everytime the box boots?08:14
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geniignurph: Yes08:14
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blackestgnurph why not use remote login ssh is good for lots of things08:14
dresdenyes pike_ its an LCD through DVI (nvidia card)08:14
gnurphinterestingly enough, the KVM worked fine in text mode - but the moment i did a startx, it's hosed.08:14
m1rmastershrek , does HDD's need to be exact same size ?08:14
palintheusYouKnowMe, can you provide more info on the problem other than you replaced the car, what kind of cards, what is the error, et08:14
Phusionhey, I just set up a RAID 1 with two SATA 500GB disks with the Fast Track BIOS utility, I'm going through the Ubuntu 7.04 install GUI and wondering how to configure for MultiDisk? where do I specify RAID, it's just showing the two sata devices08:14
gnurphwell, the video part is - keyboard/mouse works fine.  :)08:14
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MasterShreki dont know m1r i dont think so08:15
gnurphcan I force the desktop to start in a specific video resolution?08:15
dresdengnurph i want to know tha ttoo08:15
dresdengnurph thats waht ive been trying to figure out!!08:15
m1rmastershrek , can that copyed system be placed on bootable DVD ?08:15
lgcIs there an aptitude/apt-get expert here? Help!08:15
shriphanihmm lsof throws a lot... does anyone know more equivalents of netstat -p ?08:15
dresdenanybody ever made their desktop load at a certain resolution other than the default 1024x768????08:15
pike_dresden: assuming that isnt its native res the xorg.conf file resolutions at the bottom of the file under your color depth will be read left to right trying each in turn so the first thing id do is check the native res which should be higher than that for a newer lcd monitor and the xorg.conf file. youre not using the nvidia settings tool are you? ive had issues with it writing to xorg08:16
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geniignurph: Before i figured out what the issue was I would just do kdm/gdm restart then it "sees" the monitor again properly.08:16
dxdtdresden: a lot of people do that?  What do you mean?08:16
johnficcahow do I stop people from sending spam messages when I go on this channel ?08:16
godzirraOk.. .does anyone have any experience getting softkeys to work on laptops?08:16
dresdenpike_ and dxdt i already edited my xorg.conf and it didnt do any thing apparently08:16
MasterShrekdresden, first off what kinda card?08:16
johnficcaI just got this one sex_partners_r_us4: Hi, ficcaficca wanna see a great adult singles site? Check out the following site:08:16
geniignurph: (I had same issue with an old ATI card and crappy kvm)08:16
dresdenmastershrek a GeForce 660008:16
anto9usdresden: yes, the first one listed in xorg modes is the default08:16
MasterShrekm1r there is some kinda program out there im sure08:16
godzirraFor some reason my soft key for mute -says- it works, but the light on the keyboard above it stays orange.08:16
dresdeni can use nvidia-settings (console command) and change it to 1366x768 just fine!!!!08:17
sn0!fatx08:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fatx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:17
lgc Help! Help!08:17
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gnurphI've killed the KVM connection several times - everything but restart the linux box.  This is a brand new system (and brand new KVM) - maybe the drivers aren't available yet?08:17
dresdenmy native resolution iks 1366x768 but i cannot get it to boot up that way08:17
MasterShrekdresden, what driver do u have installed? the one from the repos?08:17
dresdenthe one that automatically installed mastershrek08:17
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gnurphcan I connect to the box in a different way (telnet, et al)?08:17
dresdendo i have to go to nvidia.com and download the driver tehre too?08:17
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geniignurph: You could also try comment out DPMS line in xorg.conf08:17
mwewouldn't a 400W PSU usually be enough for a standard modern PC?08:18
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MasterShrekdresden, i dont think everyone likes to do that, but i do all the time, i find it much easier to work with, it has a graphical setup for your monitor, plus easy setup for dualview and such08:18
gnurphgenii - lemme try that.  I have to find the xorg.conf file, so give me a few minutes.08:18
anto9usmwe: yes08:18
dresdenmastershrek i thought that ubuntu would automatically give me the latest nvidia driver??08:18
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mwethought so, thanks08:18
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MasterShrekim not sure to tell u the truth dresden, until recently i hadnt used ubuntu in at least a year, i dont know all the ins and outs yet08:19
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dresdenOK i will go download the latest driver, its a good idea, mastershrek08:19
exsHow do i format my usb stick via terminal?08:19
dresdenusing the default nvidia driver from ubuntu i can change my res fine, mastershrek08:19
dresdenbut when i click save to xorg it does not08:19
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dresdenso i manually made it save,08:19
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Phusionso.. anyone got any tips on installing Ubuntu on a RAID 108:19
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dresdenand it doesnt do any thing08:20
Phusionhow do I do it :/08:20
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dresdeni wil go install the latest drivers for my card tho08:20
MasterShrekdresden, are you doing that as root?08:20
dresdenyes08:20
gnurphI've got ubuntu installed on a RAID1 system with no problems.08:20
dresdeni am08:20
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dresdenits saved :)08:20
MasterShrekok08:20
dresdenjust doesnt do it08:20
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Phusiongnurph: ok well what did you do?08:20
gnurphRAID is set up at the hardware level, transparent to the OS08:20
Phusionwell the OS is seeing two disks08:20
MasterShrekwell i never have a problem with it booting up wrong using nvidias config08:20
unimatrix9what is the gutsy channel again ubuntu+1?08:20
palintheus!gutsy08:20
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+108:20
unimatrix9ok08:20
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dresdenok mastershrek, when i click save to xorg config it does NOT (i have to do it manually)08:21
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gnurphphusion - is the raid array configured already?08:21
dresdenmaybe if i download the latest drivers it will be able to do it?08:21
Phusiongnurph: yes, did it on boot w/ fasttrack08:21
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Phusionit finds it as a mirrored drive on boot08:21
pike_dresden: wont hurt anythin you can always sudo NV*.sh --uninstall08:21
MasterShrekdresden, run the config as root08:21
dresdenwhats  sudo NV*.sh --uninstall do08:21
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dresdenMASTERSHREK GOOD IDA08:22
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dresdenIDEA*08:22
gnurphthen it's querying the RAID controller for that info -08:22
dresdenomg i never tried that08:22
MasterShreklol08:22
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MasterShrekthats what i was askin u before08:22
dresdenyou mean run nvidia-settings as root right08:22
pike_dresden: thats the script form nvidia.com but you have a 6600 so i wouldnt think thatd be the issue08:22
gnurphwhen it installs, does it give you a choice of which drive to install to?08:22
dresdennooo i just realised, ive run the config as root08:22
dresdenbut never nvidia-settings08:22
MasterShrek[13:19]  <MasterShrek> dresden, are you doing that as root?08:22
dresdenyeah yeah i am but08:22
gmg9sil3nt|warri0r, hello08:22
dresdenyou gave me the idea08:22
dresdento run nvidia as root08:22
dresdeni never ran nvidia as root, might be why it cant save08:22
rhavennI enabled ldap authentication via PAM, etc... but now some stuff like synaptic do not prompt for my password anymore and don't work..i can do sudo synaptic  and that works, but I would like to understand what the issue is :)08:22
MasterShrekdefinately why you cant save08:22
dresdenthank you so much08:22
dresdeni am so dumb08:23
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dresdeni ran xorg as root but never nvidia-settings as root08:23
dresdeni will try it08:23
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Darth_Xhttp://www.zooschool.ecsd.net/whgibbon3.jpg <- have you fed your gibbon lately? :)08:23
gmg9can some one plz give their grub.conf lines ?08:23
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MasterShrekgmg9, what are you tring to boot?08:24
tach00can anyone help me with a screen resolution problem?08:24
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gmg9ubuntu08:24
MasterShrekits in a pm to you08:24
dresdenguys im going "afk" while i do the new nvidia drivers  and every thing08:25
dresdenafk08:25
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tach00rebooted and the screen got real big, and nothing i do will make it go back to normal size.08:25
Ecalixwhy is it that when i reboot, any symlinks or permissions done to /dev/dsp or /dev/dsp1 get reset to default?08:25
MasterShrektach00, what kind of video card?08:26
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tach00what ever is attatched to the board, i am not sure, sorry08:26
tach00is there a way i can find out08:26
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MasterShrektach00, run the command lspci -v08:26
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randomanhey guys, when compiling stuff on ubuntu, all you have to do is download build_essintials right?08:26
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Curs0r!kernel08:27
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild08:27
MasterShrekyea randoman it is a meta package that installs a bunch of things for you08:27
randomanbecause now im getting this08:27
randomanchecking for XORG... configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server xproto xvmc fontsproto ) were not met:08:27
jrwrIve read the wiki page about how to fix my X res, but none of those worked, and im stuck in 800x600, my xorg.log says somthing about No Vaild Modes, im using nvidia drivers08:27
gmg9MasterShrek, ???08:27
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Ecalixwhy is it that when i reboot, any symlinks or permissions done to /dev/dsp or /dev/dsp1 get reset to default?08:28
Curs0ris the fatx kernel patch included in the ubuntu kernel source?08:28
boris_is there any way i can upgrade from feisty to gutsy ?08:28
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Peloboris_,  ask in #ubuntu+108:29
MasterShrekboris_, it wouldnt be suggested because gutsy is still developmental08:29
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geniiEcalix: Because the entire /dev directory gets remade each boot by udev08:29
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dresdenhey MASTERSHREK08:30
dresdeni have asked SO many people08:30
MasterShreksup08:30
dresdenbut it is you who probably solved my problem08:30
menotu3169is there anyone here that can help me to get java working on Ubuntu 7.04?08:30
MasterShrekhaha08:30
dresdeni never ever tried to run nvidia settings as sudo08:30
dresdeni didnt know it was necessary08:30
menotu3169i've tried following the instructions from java, but it still isn't working :(08:30
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MasterShrekdresden, the beauty of linux is that its usually something very simple =D08:30
geniiEcalix: To make permanent symlink you need to mess with udev.ruls setup where it has the entry for dsp device08:30
dresdenhahah dude you have NO idea how many files i have changed08:30
dresdenand how much information i have read08:30
geniiudev.rules   (sp) rather08:30
MasterShreklol08:30
dresdenjust because i didnt do sudo08:30
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finalbetamenotu3169: java work by installing it from at-get, nothing special08:31
Ecalixgenii, *sigh* ok, thank you for the info08:31
tach00MasterShrek did you get my pm?08:31
dresdensorry im new to linux but i have had a great revelation of how super user works now hahaha08:31
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MasterShrekno tach00 you may need to register08:31
dresdennobody ever suggested i do sudo nvidia-settings08:31
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graftyo - how can i make the awful gnome file dialog stop sucking? i.e., disable the aggressive autocompletion?08:31
dresdenman you are like hte 25th person or some thing to try to help me MasterShrek08:31
dresdenbut we figured it out08:31
dresdenhahahah08:31
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menotu3169finalbeta; I'm sorry, I'm VERY new to linux, i don't know what you mean :(08:31
dresdeni manaully changed a number of files too08:31
MasterShrekdresden, remember your user only has write priveledges to your home directory, if a file is to be changed outside that you gotta be root08:31
MasterShrekgenerally speaking08:31
dresdeni did not know that08:31
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dresdenthanks for the info i didnt know that now even08:32
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tach0000:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )08:32
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Pelomenotu3169, menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager,    in the menu look for the reposistory item,  in the  dialog box that opens check multiverse on the first tab and backport in the third tab ( I think ),    then go back to the main synaptic windows,  search for  sun-java6.jre  select to install and also select the -plugin package08:32
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dresdeni guess thats why things mount inside the home dir??08:32
Curs0ris the fatx kernel patch included in the ubuntu kernel source?08:32
tach00is this what you were looking for08:32
geniiEcalix: You're welcome. there are some good tutorials for how to do what you want, just google :)08:32
Chousukedresden: no, no.08:32
dresdenok what did i say wrong08:32
finalbetamenotu3169: try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre08:32
menotu3169i will try, pelo08:32
menotu3169thanks08:32
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finalbetaShould install java 5 for you, or try the 6 if you want08:32
Chousukedresden: usually NTFS (and FAT) drives are mounted with root-only permissions08:32
Pelomenotu3169,  you will not try you will acheive08:32
MasterShrektach00, can you get into your desktop though?08:33
dresdenthat confuses me chousuke08:33
menotu3169do, or do not, there is no try, eh pelo?08:33
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dresdenwhatever sentence you just said chousuke is confusing08:33
tach00yes, the problem is, the screen is so big that i cant see the buttons at the bottom of windows08:33
Pelomenotu3169,  you got it08:33
dresdenroot-only permissions??08:33
Chousukeyeah, as in, only root can write.08:33
tach00it says i only have one screen resolution08:33
dresdenwhy the heck arent i root all the time?08:33
dresdenwhy do i have to log in ALL THE TIME08:33
Chousukebecause that's stupid.08:33
Chousukedresden: you need to manually specify permissions if you want a non-root user to access it.08:34
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dresdeni see08:34
dresdenis there a way i can always be root (is that a bad idea?)08:34
MasterShrekbad idea dresden08:34
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Chousukethat's a very bad idea.08:34
dresdenwhy08:34
MasterShrekonly use root when you need it08:34
dresdenok08:34
ainsMasterShrek, diddnt work ubuntu still requires my onboard to boot08:34
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MasterShrekbecause it is VERY easy to destroy your os08:34
genii!sudo | dresden08:34
ubotudresden: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:34
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ainsbut also, when X crashes it will go to my onboard for command line, but when X is ok it uses my graphics card08:35
xeon2007how do I dedicate mount an usb external drive (formatted ext3) in place of automount?08:35
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dresdenthanks for the sudo lesson i have learnt a lot08:35
MasterShrekhmm ains try disabling your onboard in the bios maybe?08:35
ainsi have08:35
Pelotach00,  you need to have more resolutions available on your screen? as in 1024x768 and 1280x1024 ?   edit xorg.conf and add them manualy to the list then restart x08:35
ainsthats what makes it hang08:35
Chousukedresden: You'll want to specify a umask for the mounted fat or ntfs drives.08:35
ainsMasterShrek, if my onboard is disabled it hangs08:35
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dresdenwhats a umask?08:35
Chousukedresden: Honestly, I don't know why ubuntu defaults to root-only permisisons08:35
dresdeni dont know what a umask is!!08:36
Chousukemost people have no clue how to fix it :08:36
tach00pelo, sorry for not knowing anything, but how do i do that?08:36
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Chousukedresden: umask means the permissions you give to the mounted drive.08:36
MasterShrekhmm ains im not really sure what to tell ya, check the forums maybe for card and see if someone had a fix for it08:36
dresdenoh08:36
ainschecked08:36
ainssucks :P08:36
MasterShrektach00, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:36
dresdenchousuke i only know how i accessed the drive, what else should i know?08:36
MasterShrekscroll to the bottom and add the resolution that you want08:37
Pelotach00,  in the terminal    type  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    about half way down the file you will see the list of available resolutions , follow the syntax carefully08:37
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ainsMasterShrek, i think its something in Ubuntu but not in X because X uses my card fine, but ubuntu seems stuck to my onboard and if my onboard isnt there it fails to boot08:37
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Chousukedresden: I'm assuming you're unable to write to a drive that you mounted? is that ntfs or fat?08:37
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dresdeni couldnt write to it for al ong time08:37
dresdenbut i eventually figured it out some how, i forget exactly how08:37
MasterShrekone sec ains i got an idea08:37
dresdeni think i had to reboot08:37
geniixeon2007: If it's powered on when you start the computer and fstab has option "auto" then it should behave like any regular permanently wired hd08:37
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dresdenhow the heck do i unmount a NTFS?08:38
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Chousukedo you know the path to the NTFS drive?08:38
dresdenno08:38
dresdeni have no idea!08:38
dresdenits a USB NTFS HDD08:38
Chousukeit should be /media/something08:38
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dresdenok how do i find it08:38
xeon2007genii thanks08:38
dresdenis it in the mounted volume or where?08:38
dresdeni know how to find the address but which icon is the correct address08:38
Chousukedresden: open the terminal and type "mount"08:38
dresdenok08:38
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Pelodresden,   the path shuld be  /media/nameofthedriveonyourdesktop08:39
Chousukethen you should see a drive which is mounted as ntfs08:39
dresdeni dont know how to read all that information08:39
dresdenok08:39
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Chousukethen you can unmount it with sudo umount /path/tothedrive08:39
m0dYhow to find files more than a certain number of GB's ?08:39
dresdenwow so many things mounted08:39
dresdenthanks a lot let me try to find it08:39
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geniixeon2007: np08:39
dresdenargh is there no easier way to find it?? i have like 20 things mounted08:39
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Chousukewell, as Pelo said08:40
Chousukeif you see the drive on your desktop, it should be /media/something08:40
Pelodresden,  in ubuntu  ntfs partitions are read only by default,  it is not someting wrong that you did,  to make them read/wirte you need to perform a few extra operations,  I am not sure they will be permanent with a usb drive08:40
dresdenohh ok08:40
ShayeI need help eith my eggdrop...08:40
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dresdenthanks pelo, chousuke, il try to unmount a drive for the first time!! :) :)08:40
PeloShaye,  what is eggdrop and what help you do need exactly08:40
s0nixhow can i make a BOOT script for reload r8169 driver at boot ? where ?08:41
dresdencould the location be "/media/sda1"08:41
dresdenis that a proper location? (/media/sda1)08:41
Pelodresden,  if it appears on your desktop just rightl click and pick unmount in the menu08:41
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Chousukesounds okay08:41
dresdenawesome thats easy!!08:41
dresdenhahah thanks08:41
MasterShrekains, put that vga option at the end of the kernel line and try it08:41
dresdeni didnt know i had a button called unmount08:41
Chousukehmm, that sometimes doesn't work :)08:41
dresdenwow i was using the console08:41
mwes0nix, just add the name of the module to load at boot to /etc/modules08:41
Chousukeit's good to know the console way too08:41
ainsum08:41
ainsokay08:41
dresdeni used the console to mount it lol08:41
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Chousukeheh08:42
kitche!info eggdrop | Pelo08:42
ubotupelo: eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB08:42
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dresdenwhy dont i need to be super user to mount things in desktop??08:42
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Pelos0nix, not sure how you make it but you put it in /etc/init.d if you want it to lanch on startup08:42
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kitchedresden: hal handles it08:42
Chousukedresden: gnome should automount them for you08:42
dresdenaah ok08:42
ShayePelo if u don't know what eggdrop is i don't think u could help dude08:42
Pelokitche,  ewwww08:42
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PeloShaye, the first part was for me,  the second for the channel at large,  just ask the question donT' ask about asking08:42
oberochow does one get the config options from a running kernel?08:42
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s0nixmwe: triyng this08:43
kitcheShaye: wellw hat is your problemw ith it08:43
dresdenCannot unmount volume08:43
dresdenThe volume 'Black64' was probably mounted manually on the command line.08:43
dresdenwhoops i meant the other one, but same thing08:43
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dresdenThe volume 'MaxtorUSB' was probably mounted manually on the command line.08:43
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pike_dresden: if its in fstab with a 'users' under the options column you dont need to be su08:43
tach00pelo: according to the list, those resolutions are already there08:43
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Pelodresden,     from the terminal    sudo umount /media/Black6408:43
AboSamoori shared some folders on SMB network in Ubuntu , when i try to open them in Xp i got this error message"The folder contents could not be displayed"08:43
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dresdenthanks il do that with the different name08:43
dresdenthanks pelo08:43
ShayeI installed eggdrop, everything seems fine, it joined the network alright, but now it just doesn't respond... i did /msg bot hello, or /msg bot pass, etc... and nothing it doesn't respond.08:43
Pelotach00, you have an intel video card ?08:43
ffmksdHELP! Firefox hates me! I get the "FF is already running08:44
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tach00yes i believe so08:44
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Pelotach00, what kind of screen ?08:44
preactionffmksd, sudo killall -9 firefox-bin08:44
Pelomonitor ? lcd crt08:44
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ffmksdHELP! Firefox hates me! I get the "FF is already running" and I have already restarted and reinstalled firefox.08:44
tach00hp pavillion m7008:44
MasterShrekffmksd, type killall firefox-bin08:44
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ffmksdpreaction, MasterShrek, no work.08:44
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MasterShrekffmksd, type killall firefox08:45
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ainsMasterShrek,08:45
ffmksdpreaction, MasterShrek, nope.08:45
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gnurphOkay - video problem resolved.  I installed Shorewall - but can't find it on the desktop.  do I need to restart X, or is there a trick of some type to start it?  The service is already running.08:45
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MasterShrekkillall ffmksd08:45
mwes0nix, gdsudo gedit /etc/modules. add the name at the end and save the file08:45
MasterShrek=P08:45
kitcheShaye: well that is an issue with your eggdrop config but what network is it ona nd such or you can always whois <nick> to make sure it is indeed on the network08:45
Pelotach00,  I think that's an ati or nvidia card,   closed gedit, goto  menu > system > admin > restricted drivers , see what it tells you08:45
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tach00let me say that you guys are awsome, without you, us beginners wpould be lost08:45
MasterShrekains08:45
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ainsi pmed you08:45
sxannessCan someone help me with an issue I am having creatng my database with phpbb2-conf-mysql08:45
ainsread it ;p08:45
wm-seabroo1being sort of new I guess to linux, I'm wondering if there's been a lot of flattening of the directory architecture? it certainly seems that way to me.08:45
tach00ok08:45
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MasterShrekains, you need to be registered08:45
ainsoh08:45
ffmksdStill no work.08:45
ainswait08:45
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wm-seabroo1like /var and /etc and stuff08:45
Pelotach00, there is a catch ,  you'll need to give us 6 months of your time troubleshooting other ppl for each problems of yours we solve08:46
s0nixmwe: don't work...... i really need to do sudo modprobe -r r8169 | sudo modprobe r8169 to reload it and make it working08:46
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hoarycrippleffmksd, ps ax |grep firefox08:46
kitchewm-seabroo1: what do you mean a lot of flattening of the heirarchy08:46
tach00a popup says, "your hardware doesnt need any restricted drivers"08:46
hoarycrippleffmksd, kill -9 PID08:46
stdinffmksd: killall -9 firefox-bin ?08:46
Shayekitche what... how that supposed to help08:46
ffmksd 8367 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep firefox08:46
hoarycrippleffmksd, kill -9 836708:46
Pelotach00, ok,  you will need to check your documentation to make sure what video card model you have,  just to make sure08:47
tach00no prob pelo, i guess if i learn from you, there is no harm in someone learning from me08:47
hoarycrippleffmksd, oh it isn't running anymore08:47
dresdenpelo that did not work, but sudo umount /media/sda1 did work08:47
hoarycrippleremove your .mozilla08:47
dresdenthank you so much!08:47
wm-seabroo1kitche: well, working with ruby for instance, and ruby gems in particular. they could be installed in /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8, /usr/lib/ruby/1.8, /var/lib/ruby/.... etc08:47
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hoarycrippleand try to start firefox again08:47
dresdenpelo how do i mount it again with the console?? i -08:47
Pelodresden, great08:47
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kitcheShaye: it's your configuration that is most likely messed up since it should response to you like you are now the owner of the bot or soemthing close to tha08:47
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sxannessCan someone help me with an issue I am having creatng my database with phpbb2-conf-mysql08:47
ffmksdnope08:47
mwethat'll remove bookmarks and settings as well08:47
dresdeni forget the correct command i used to mount it in the first place pelo (i tried lots), how do i mount it again so i know?08:47
Pelodresden, try just unpluging and plugging in it ,  usb should mount automaticaly08:47
kitchewm-seabroo1: well that's where they can be installed not really flattening08:47
stdinffmksd: rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock08:47
mwerename it instead08:47
dresdenawesome thanks a lot pelo!!08:47
Shayekitche but how do i fix that, that is why i am asking... lol08:48
dresdenon the same note: how do i mount internal drives (what command) pelo?08:48
sxannessI am on Ubuntu 6.06LTS, I have mysql5 installed and mysql-server, when I run "sudo apt-get install phpbb2-conf-mysql" it opens up the configuration screen, I tell it I want to create the database and it asks for my mysqladmin password which I enter in and then I get an error telling me it was unable to create the database saying "08:48
Pelodresden,  make sure it is powered on08:48
sxannessError: Unable to run the create database script.08:48
kitcheShaye: I told you it's in it's config08:48
wm-seabroo1kitche: but if there's no real difference between the choices, then I'd say the differences between the options have been 'flattened' and I don't know if that's the best word08:48
tach00pelo: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )08:48
tach00        Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 256208:48
tach00        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 1608:48
tach00        Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] 08:48
tach00        Memory at e8100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] 08:48
dresdenyeha it works thanks pelo08:48
BigToe7000NOOOOOOOOO08:48
tach00        Capabilities: <access denied>08:48
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stdin!paste | tach0008:48
ubotutach00: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:48
evolipelhow do you stop Xchat from coming here on startup?08:48
dresdeni know how to use my USB device now thanks to you guys and pelo08:48
dresdenthats chousuke08:48
tach00sorry08:48
Pelodresden, internal drives  is  sudo mount /dev/sd**  /mountpoint08:48
dresdenthanks*08:48
Shayekitche dude i know it's in the config i can't fix it i reinstalled few times as well comeon.08:48
dresdenawesome thanks pelo i will write that down too08:48
tach00!paste08:48
ffmksdrm: cannot remove `/home/luke/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock': No such file or directory08:48
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whiteygfordhey all08:49
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tach00!paste | tach0008:49
ffmksdstidn:rm: cannot remove `/home/luke/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock': No such file or directory08:49
MasterShrek!patience | ffmksd08:49
ubotuffmksd: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:49
hoarycrippleffmksd, replace *.default with whatever it is really called08:49
Pelodresden,  you need to have a mountpoint made    sudo mkdir /****     use something in /media if you want it to show on your desktop or  in /mnt if you don'T08:49
whiteygfordmy linux stopped recognizing my other 2 hard drives, they are both NTFS format08:49
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dresdenthanks pelo i will do that and i will write down what you just sad :)08:50
electronjunkiehello werld, i am planning on installing a mail server on Feisty, anyone have suggestions as to a good mail server and mabey a how to link ?08:50
stdinffmksd: then it _should_ work08:50
sxannessIf anyone here has had experience runing PHPbb from Ubuntu 6.06LTS please pm me.08:50
sxannessrunning808:50
Ecalixgenii, i think i found what i was looking for. example was BUS="ide", KERNEL="hdd", SYMLINK="cdrom". what would the BUS be for sound though?08:50
Mmikewhere do I seek help/info on kernel 2.6.22 compilation on feisty? i downloaded 2.6.22, pulled .config file from gutsy, and the .deb file I got at the end has 140 MB! :)08:50
kitcheShaye: dwhat network is it on, and it's nick since usually the documentation for eggdrop can fix all really08:50
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electronjunkie!mail08:50
ubotumail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com08:50
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PeloMmike,  try asking in #ubuntu+1 for gutsy related stuff08:50
evolipelhow do you stop Xchat from coming here on startup?08:50
electronjunkie!mail server08:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mail server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
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speaker219the08:51
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dresdenguys im going to install the latest nvidia drivers, i may reboot08:51
Pelo!botabuse | electronjunkie08:51
ubotuelectronjunkie: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...08:51
Flannelevolipel: It's in the settings.  There'll be an autojoin list or something akin to it.08:51
Mmikepelo: i'm not using gutsy, i'm using feisty, I just want to have 2.6.22 on feisty08:51
preactionelectronjunkie, postfix is probably your best bet for ease-of-use and performance08:51
MasterShrekdresden, you wont have to reboot08:51
preactionelectronjunkie, if you're masochistic, you can try configuring sendmail.08:51
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dresdenawesome thanks mastershrek08:51
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dresdeni love linux ubuntu!!08:51
tach00pelo: http://www.pastebin.org/36308:51
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Pelodresden,  we love you to08:52
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Pelotach00,  hold on let me look08:52
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dresden  ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before08:52
dresden         installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING08:52
dresden         THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver08:52
dresden         download page at www.nvidia.com.08:52
Shayekitche efnet, but it's connected and it's all working alright, it won't respond08:52
electronjunkiepreaction: am i able to use hoard with postfix08:52
dresdenhelp08:52
randomanlol, ok i just installed apt-get install  x11proto-fonts-dev08:52
randoman 11proto-core-dev08:52
randoman . and now i get even more errors when compiling08:52
MasterShrekdresden, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:52
dresdenim going to read what NVIDIA told me to08:52
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ikeeAny have a solution to the FSCK 49710 days bug?08:52
randomanchecking for XORG... configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server xproto xvmc fontsproto  xineramaproto randrproto renderproto xextproto x11 xextproto) were not met:08:52
dresdenok thanks mastershrek il do that!08:52
Pelodresden,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:52
MasterShrekafterwards start it again08:52
randomanand xserver is here08:52
stdindresden: use the ubuntu packages08:52
dresdenthanks guys il do that :)08:52
preactionelectronjunkie, what kind of mail server do you want? smtp? pop3? imap?08:52
stdin!nvidia | dresden08:53
dresdenstdin i didnt know ubuntu has that08:53
ubotudresden: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:53
Ecalixanybody know much about altering udev?08:53
dresdenthanks stdin08:53
electronjunkiepreaction: pop3 preferably with webmail08:53
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Pelotach00, ok  when you look in  menu > system > prefs > resolution  , what is it set to ?08:53
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howlingmadhowieaha, dresden ist wieder da :)08:53
MasterShrekEcalix, all i know is you can add/edit rules in /etc/udev/rules.d08:53
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howlingmadhowiehello there dresden :)08:53
mweichertI'm using Feisty Fawn, apt-installed Apache and Awstats. However, when I attempt to goto http://localhost/cgi-bin apache tries to resolve /var/www/cgi-bin rather than /usr/lib/cgi-bin. Any ideas?08:53
dresdenhi howling08:53
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dresdeni think i figured out how to make the resolution stick ubt i have not rebooted yet08:53
dresdennvidia-settings knows how to fix xorg but i didnt load nvidia-settings with sudo08:54
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Ecalixlol, well thanks for that enlightenment MasterShrek ;)08:54
dresdennow that i did it should work08:54
LGM^how can i install rpms in ubuntu?08:54
preactionelectronjunkie, pop3 servers are more difficult to set up, but my personal recommendation is Courier-pop308:54
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tach00640x480 - 60 hz08:54
preactionLGM^, use alien, but i wouldn't recommend it08:54
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MasterShrek=P08:54
tach00and thats the only option08:54
howlingmadhowiedresden: aha. that makes sense :)08:54
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ShayePelo, I'm running ubuntu server edition, no gui or anything, can i install graphics drivers some how? (becuase i want to change the resolution)08:54
askandHi!I have problems with my aticard..when I enable the ati driver from restricted drivers I get a blackscreen after reboot..please help? I have xorg.conf files if its any use?08:54
MasterShrektach00, did you edit your xorg.conf?08:54
PeloLGM^,  you shoudn'T look for a deb a bin or the source08:54
electronjunkiepreaction: ok thank you, i will check it out08:54
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tach00tried to but when it opened, those resolutions were already there08:55
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PeloShaye,  no idea , I guess you can install x but beyond that I have no idea how you would play around with the rex08:55
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unagianyone want to help me install ubuntu on my laptop?08:55
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MasterShrekShaye, you want to change the console resolution?08:55
LGM^ok i am looking to install emule any ideas08:55
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FlannelShaye: You want to change resolution in the console, right?08:55
keitoanyone know where to go for gtkpod help?08:55
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MasterShrekLGM^, sudo apt-get install amule08:55
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preactionelectronjunkie, otherwise, theoretically if you're going to be using a web frontend like horde, you could just use something simple like mpop3d or apop3d. but remember if you have a pop3 server you'll need an smtp server (to accept mail and put it in the proper place so that pop3 server can allow users to get mail)08:55
Shayeyes08:55
LGM^ynks08:56
ShayeI see the font too big, MasterShrek, Flannel.08:56
geniiEcalix: Back (I was AFK). I think that one for HD may not be so applicable. Let me look something informative up for you08:56
Pelotach00, from the command line type   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , when in doubt use the default answer provided08:56
LGM^thanks08:56
Flannelmweichert: double check that you have a ScriptAlias directive in your default site08:56
aaronhttp://hotsanic.sourceforge.net/example/index.html <- i'm looking for somethign to put on a debian or ubuntu server that can generate graphs like this for traffic and system resources.... anyone know of anything?08:56
unagiubuntu doesnt see my hd when i want to install how do i fix this08:56
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Pelokeito,  #gtkpod ?08:56
mweichertFlannel: yes, I do... ScriptAlias /cgi-bin /usr/lib/cgi-bin08:56
Ecalixgenii, im looking at the 2nd to last post in this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-85929.html08:56
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gnurphstill looking - where might I find the interface on the desktop for Shorewall?08:56
keitoPelo: no go I'm afraid!08:56
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keitoANYONE know how to use gtkpod who could help me out?08:57
Pelokeito, check wikipedia for the gtkpod website link08:57
Phusionhow do I specify software RAID in the GUI installer of 7.0408:57
ikeeAny have a solution for the FSCK 49710 days Issue?08:57
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Phusionmy RAID is already setup in bios08:57
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fyrestrtrgnurph: shorewall *is* the interface to iptables.08:57
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tach00pelo: which driver should i choose08:57
keitoPelo: it appears there is no official irc08:57
FlannelShaye: next time you boot, at GRUB, hit 'e' to edit the selection, then append to the kernel line 'vga=ask'  It'll ask you to pick some resolutions.  You'll just haveto do some trial and error.  Once you've found a good one, remember the number, and then go to your menu.lst and put it in the 'kopt=' line (don't uncomment).  sudo update-grub, and you'll be good.08:57
Pelotach00, what are your options ?08:57
mweichertFlannel: that line was there by default08:57
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gnurphfyrestrtr - which is why I installed it - I have limited knowledge of configuring iptables.  How do I start shorewall up?08:58
Flannelmweichert: right, I expected it to be, just wasn't sure if Feisty still had it.08:58
kitchePelo keito: not hard it's gtkpod.org and they only use mailing list for help08:58
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tach00automatically chose vesa08:58
Pelokeith,  they might have a forum or a faq08:58
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unagican anyone please help me install ubuntu......im having trouble getting it to see my hd08:58
howlingmadhowiegnurph: and iptables is the interface to netfilter :)08:58
mweichertFlannel: any idea why it would be looking in /var/www/cgi-bin ?08:58
Pelotach00, what are the other options ?08:58
hoarycripplekeito, what's the problem?08:58
keitoPelo: The issue is such a small (and hence obvious) one that it hardly seems worth it08:58
geniiEcalix: I think the file possibly useful to edit is something like /etc/udev/rules.d/60-symlinks.rules08:59
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unagi::cries::08:59
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howlingmadhowieunagi: wassup?08:59
gnurphlol, yeah yeah.  :)  Gosh, what was I thinking?  Still clueless, though.08:59
Pelokeito, which makes it likely to be covered in their faq if they have one,  but that is the issue anyway, maybe we can figure it out08:59
tach00pelo, there are about 30 options, i guess all of the x server drivers08:59
Ecalixgenii, yeah i was looking at that one. just trying to figure out what exactly to toss in there08:59
unagiubuntu wont see the hard drive.....i dont know where to begin fixing this08:59
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unagiwith windows its just a driver08:59
Pelotach00, copy , paste to pastebin08:59
Flannelmweichert: no, none.  You might try #apache09:00
tach00ok09:00
howlingmadhowieunagi: you're trying to install ubuntu and the install cd doesn't see your harddrive? what sort of harddrive do you have?09:00
geniiEcalix: looking :)09:00
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Pelotach00,  anyting look like the intel 86.... series of your vidoe card ?09:00
unagiide09:00
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ticnailer69hi09:00
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Flannelmweichert: oh.  You're browsing to /cgi-bin?09:00
s0nixPelo:  i make a script in /etc/init.d/ with "modprobe -r r8169 | modprobe 8169" is it ok ? (owner: root' chmod +x ok)09:00
keitoWell... the issue is I have a load of backed up itunes stuff from my girlfriends old XP install.  now I want to link that to the new ubuntu gtkpod install.  the gtkpod program has recognised the ipod and see's its files but now I need to show it where the local files are.  having trouble09:00
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Phusionhey, how do I configure software RAID in the Ubuntu 7.04 GUI installer?09:00
mweichertFlannel: yeah09:00
unagiwindows needed some sort of non-raid promis driver09:00
ShayeFlannel, i find those files under /etc? :oo09:00
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Phusionanyone? I don't see RAID as a partition type09:00
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Flannelmweichert: Put a trailing slash, localhost/cgi-bin/09:01
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Pelos0nix,  I wouldn'T know, i'm not up to that stuff yet , I only do the basicx09:01
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Pelobasics09:01
FlannelShaye: only one file.  your menu.lst is /boot/grub/menu.lst09:01
howlingmadhowieunagi: that's unusual, that ubuntu doesn't see it. can you open a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and enter: "cat /proc/partitions". if there's any result, can you post the result on pastebin?09:01
gnurphso...any ideas on starting that shorewall interface up?09:01
tach00pelo, sorry, wont let me copy them, its like a setup screen09:01
geniiEcalix: :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=175171 has the particulars09:01
ticnailer69how do I connect to a wireless network connection in the command line...by the way the essid is belkin54g and there is no key set09:01
obero1does anybody know how to get the kernel configuration from a running kernel?09:01
Z_GodI am trying to install the 2.4.27 kernel in Dapper, but it doesn't boot, can't mount my root partition09:01
holycowwhat is latest ubuntu release called again? edgy right?09:01
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ShayeFlannel ok ill do it now, press 'e' u say right?09:01
obero1gutsy09:02
howlingmadhowieholycow: feisty09:02
Pelotach00, forget the copy paste fro now look for something in the intel 82845  range09:02
Z_Godany idea how to fix it?09:02
holycowoh thx09:02
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ticnailer69in other words the network in not protected09:02
tach00pelo, ok09:02
FlannelShaye: at the grub menu, when highlighting the one you want to boot to, yeah.09:02
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geniiholycow: The latest stable is Feisty Fawn., the pre-release for what should be 7.10 is Gutsy Gibbon09:02
Shayei only have linux installed it boots automatically09:02
Shayebut ok 1 sec09:02
howlingmadhowieholycow: gutsy is still in alpha (or is it beta?). anyhow, it hasn't yet been officially released09:02
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holycowdanke, appreciate that09:02
hoarycripplekeito, so you just want to add those files to the ipod using the "add files or directory" button up top09:02
unagithere are no partitions on the drive howlingmadhowie09:02
FlannelShaye: you'll need to hit escape then, if your menu is hidden.  The timer will go away once you start doing stuff (hit arrow keys)09:03
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mweichertFlannel: heh ;)09:03
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imbecilehow do i make it so that the keyring doesnt need a password to join my home network.. its pretty annoying and I always want to grant access to my wireless09:03
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balthamaisteriHi, what is wrong when my glxgears shows 3000+ fps and runs smoothly, but in cedega test glxgears are buggy? :/ and games are not playable?09:03
keitothat adds files to the playlist09:03
Shaye'e' then escape?09:03
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Flannelmweichert: the alias was /cgi-bin/ which requires the trailing slash.09:03
s0nixanyone can help me with my r8169 driver problem? i need to type manually sudo modprobe -r r8169 | modprobe r8169 .... to have a ethernet working.09:03
howlingmadhowieunagi: so "cat /proc/partitions" returns nothing. that means that there are no harddrives recognised. how is the ide drive connected to your motherboard?09:03
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keitoits ok though, think I answered my own question09:03
jrwrIve read the wiki page about how to fix my X res, but none of those worked, and im stuck in 800x600, my xorg.log says somthing about No Vaild Modes, im using nvidia drivers09:03
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mweichertFlannel: I don't have permission... but I'm sure that I can probably fix that. Just change the group and user of cgi-bin to wwwroot:www, right?09:03
FlannelShaye: no, escape to show the menu (if it's hidden), then 'e' on the thing you'd normally hit enter to boot to.09:03
hoarycripplekeito, then you hit "sync" and it will write to the ipod09:03
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keitojust found this..... 3) Use "Import" to import the contents of your old iTunesDB.09:03
tach00pelo, nothing like that in the list... its like: vesa, vga, voodoo, ati...that sort of thing09:03
keitodidn't spot an import button though09:04
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keitoI'll look again09:04
tach00pelo, but nothing intel09:04
obero1imbecile: I think that ubuntuforums has a  howto on that09:04
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Pelotach00, go for vga09:04
Flannelmweichert: www-data, except it should be 755 already.  So you would have perms.09:04
tach00pelo, ok09:04
Aye|MasterShrek, nope, none of it worked ;S09:04
nedwIs there a way I can add something to a bash script to make it check if a needed package is installed?09:04
poojahi09:04
keitoI persnally don't use an ipod (iRiver iHP140 was the weapon of choice for me)09:04
keitothanks anyways09:04
Flannelmweichert: you got a 'directory contents listing not available' right?  (or whatever he exact wording)09:04
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obero1nedw: you can use apt-cache showpkg09:04
nedwobero1: let me test it out09:05
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imbecileobero Ill look through it.. i have trouble finding stuff in the forums alot however09:05
ShayeFlannel ok I have now few lines: root, kernel, quiet, save default?09:05
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nedwobero: How can I use that in a bash script though?09:05
unagican anyone help me get ubuntu to see my harddrive09:06
FlannelShaye: right, on the kernel line, at the end, type vga=ask, then save it, and boot to it09:06
Pelokeito, there is another option for iriver but I forget what it is ,  try searching for iriver in synaptic09:06
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mweichertFlannel: well, actually it said "you do not have permissions to view this resource"09:06
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obero1nedw: lets say you need gaim, ok?09:06
Pelounagi, are you running a raid array ?09:06
nedwobero1: ok09:06
Bogus8I couldn't make my screen come back on after being idle for X minutes... I could see HD activity so I knew it was working... I had to ctr+alt+backspace to get it to come back up... any clues?09:06
Flannelmweichert: Right.  Probably because you can't view the directory contents.  Your perms are probably fine.09:06
Bogus8this is a laptop Toshiba Tecra M309:06
unagino...but the laptop has a raid controller.....on windows i needed promise drivers....on linux....i dont know what to do09:06
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facefacefacefacehow do I check the status of the apmd on my laptop?09:07
Pelo!raid | unagi  try this09:07
ubotuunagi  try this: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO09:07
howlingmadhowienedw: you can also try: dpkg -s $PACKAGE_NAME | grep Status:09:07
facefacefacefacescreen used to dim when I unplugged the power, now it don't09:07
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Bogus8facefacefaceface: under power management there is that setting09:07
ShayeFlannel it booted normally ;[09:07
facefacefacefaceBogus8, are you sure?09:07
Shayelol09:07
obero1nedw: var1=`apt-cache showpkg gaim | grep "something"`09:07
tach00PELO, OK I WENT THRU THE SETUP AND WHEN IT FINISHED, NOTHING HAPPENED, DO I NEED TO REBOOT09:08
mweichertFlannel: okay, thanks a lot for your help!09:08
howlingmadhowieunagi: so the drive is plugged into a raid controller. i think you need the alternative install cd for that if not directly the server install cd09:08
facefacefacefaceit was  a distinct 'dimming' when I pulled the power plug09:08
tach00pelo, sorry caps09:08
Bogus8facefacefaceface: I just asked about a similar problem... I can't get my screen to come back on after it turns off09:08
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Bogus8so I just double checked my settings ;)09:08
Pelotach00,  you need to turn off capslock first09:08
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facefacefacefaceBogus8, how do I get the gui up?09:08
unimatrix9how would i ( on terminal ) turn compiz off and run normal gnome , and how run normal kde?09:08
tach00pelo, i did, sorry09:08
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unagiwhat is alternate cd09:08
FlannelShaye: you need to hit 'b' once you've edited (and make sure you hit... uh, enter? to save changes) to boot it from within the editor sort of thing09:08
iltomee sudo mount.davfs https://server /somewhere fails for me? any suggestions?09:08
Pelotach00,   ctrl alt backspace will restart X   and should start the new settings09:08
nedwobero1: as far as i know apt-cache doesn't indicate whether or not a package is installed09:08
unagi!alternate09:08
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal09:08
Bogus8facefacefaceface: huh? are you in X ... power management is in the menu09:08
Bogus8facefacefaceface: gnome I assume?09:09
obero1hang on09:09
unagiwhat?09:09
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Pelounagi,  you can download it from the site like the live cd09:09
cwilluI'm trying to install ubuntu on a laptop;  it doesn't seem to be detecting the old copy of windows on it though (xp)09:09
Flannelnedw: dpkg -l | grep [package] 09:09
facefacefacefaceBogus8, OK, yup, just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing09:09
unagii dont know how to install text mode09:09
obero1nedw: hang on09:09
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Flannelunagi: Its exactly the same as installing wth the GUI.  You get asked the same questions and prompted with the same choices09:09
claudiu is there a compiz fusion irc channel ?09:09
Pelounagi,  it's not command ,it is just text based question and answer  donT' be scared09:09
Bogus8facefacefaceface: so you never had any problems getting your screen to power back on after power management shut it off (idle timeout)09:09
facefacefacefacesystem -> pref -> power management...09:09
unagioh ok just text09:09
facefacefacefaceBogus8, nope09:10
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Peloclaudiu, #compix-fusion09:10
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facefacefacefacebut I do have a strange glytch when I unplug the power09:10
unagibut what does text based have to do with seeing the hd just curious09:10
Bogus8facefacefaceface: I just installed and when I woke up I couldn't get it back on.. had to ctr+alt+backspace to restart X09:10
nedwFlannel: thanks, that's what i was looking for09:10
facefacefacefacein that gui I see very few options09:10
randoman#opencompositing is the compizfusion channel09:10
nedwobero1: Flannel's solution worked09:10
Pelounagi, nothing but the cd contains the stuff to see the raid09:10
Bogus8facefacefaceface: it's on the last tab?09:10
howlingmadhowienedw: something like this, maybe? INSTALLED=`dpkg -s $PACKAGE_NAME 2>/dev/null | grep Status`09:10
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unagii see09:10
kitcherandoman: umm #compiz-fusion is the compiz-fusion channel09:10
facefacefacefaceBogus8, running on AC, battery , general09:10
Bogus8facefacefaceface: no, "on battery"09:11
cwilluhow do I get the live cd to not completely wipe the hd?  I'm not seeing an option anywhere09:11
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randomanalright, they changed it withen the last month09:11
Bogus8facefacefaceface: it's pretty plain and simple "screen brightness" or something like that09:11
facefacefacefaceBogus8, click 'on bat' and I seee two sleep options, a 'when lid closed' option and 'when power crit' option09:11
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nedwhowlingmadhowie: let me check if i can get Flannel's tip working in context09:11
kitcherandoman: #opencompositing takes you to it though09:11
Bogus8facefacefaceface: no slider for brightness?09:11
facefacefacefaceBogus8, I don't see anything to do with brightness09:11
Pelocwillu, you need to resize your paertition first to make room and tyou use the use the largest unallocated space option or the manual option when you get to the paritionning section09:11
randomanoh ok09:11
facefacefacefacenope09:11
randomanwell the forwarded it09:11
Bogus8facefacefaceface: hmm... odd09:11
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facefacefacefaceBogus8, ;-)09:12
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cwilluPelo: the installer doesn't do it anymore?09:12
facefacefacefaceI thought I had not found it so easily!09:12
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Pelocwillu, probably but I like to do it ahead of time,  seems safer09:12
howlingmadhowienedw: flannels tip is probably better than mine, depending on how dpkg works. but if you're writing a script, speed won't be of the essence anyway09:12
Flannelcwillu: yes, it does.  You do 'manual partitioning' and you can massage whatever partitions.  But there's an automated method that'll use an unallocated piece of your HDD, if you've got one.09:12
obero1nedw: you still there?09:12
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facefacefacefaceanyone know what cli is equiv to 'sytem -> pref -> power management' ?09:12
nedwobero1: yes09:12
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obero1nedw: good09:13
andyp_hi09:13
tcpdump_whaddap?09:13
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obero1nedw: try this directory09:13
cwilluFlannel: the manual partitioning option just gives me the option of deleting the partition, no resize that I can see09:13
howlingmadhowiefacefacefaceface: can't you right click on it and see what it calls?09:13
obero1nedw: /var/lib/dpkg/info09:14
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facefacefacefacehowlingmadhowie, got it09:14
facefacefacefacebrb09:14
TBotNik_u/exec ifconfig09:14
andyp_installed a package installed on comamnd line with dpkg -i now tried to remove with dpkg -r and dpkg -P but cannot09:14
rancidlmhey all can some one please help... my /home/MYUSERNAME is gone right now my /home/ is emty how do i re-create my user  gdm won't let me login ?09:14
nedwobero1: i'll try that if what i'm doing now doesn't work; thanks for the tip09:15
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grm1hi, i've get this patch (http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/mac80211/downloads/mac80211-9.0.4.tgz) and apply to kernel (linux-source-2.6.20). no errors appears during patch. but when rebuild kernel i got the following -> http://pastebin.com/m5738716f. could you help me please ?09:15
dromerhmm, the support on the forums isn't really as good as I had hoped :(09:15
Tiptronichow do i install linux on a vista machine? i boot from cd, it checks for drivers and stuff, then it goes blank and nothin happens09:15
unagimadriva support sucks lol09:15
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rudy_1good evening09:15
rancidlmif i go sudo mkdir /home/rancidlm  i get permissions after login plz help :)09:15
Peloandyp_, look in synaptic, in the status menu view ( bottom left button),   under the local packages secton09:15
Flannelrancidlm: you'll need to reboot and choose the 'recovery console' and then create the directory.09:15
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dromerTiptronic: "vista machine"? what are the specifications of your computer and what does vista have to do with it?09:16
PeloTiptronic,  what video card ?09:16
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rudy_1my pppd connection is starting up automatically at the X Window login09:16
Flannelrancidlm: You'll need to chown it to your user, since with sudo mkdir you'll have it owned by root by default09:16
nexhi09:16
andyp_Pelo: i am in fluxbox not gnome or kde09:16
rudy_1anyone knows where this setup can be found and changed?09:16
unagiTiptronic: vista has nothing to do with it09:16
rancidlmFlannel: i can get to console but what permission do i give it?09:16
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unagirudy_1: have you checked sessions?09:16
riyonukDoes anyone know of any of these minimilistic themes? Like this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=39728&d=1186168304 I'm hoping someone can link me to some, as Im looking for a particular one, and maybe I can get lucky :D09:16
Tiptronicnvnida 6150, 1,6ghz dual core amd, 1gb ram09:16
nexI can't get xgl to load properly when starting a session? any thoughts?09:16
facefacefacefaceBogus8, I got "Gnome gnome-power-preferences 2.14.3" what do you have?09:16
Flannelrancidlm: chown username:username /home/username09:16
dromer4 I'm hoping someone can link me to some, as Im looking for a particular one, and maybe I can get lucky :D09:16
Peloandyp_, try man dpkg see if you have the correct options09:17
cwillu!xgl > nex09:17
Bogus8facefacefaceface: http://gilligan.kicks-ass.org:1023/Screenshot.png09:17
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rudy_1unagi: i haven't unagi... where to do it?09:17
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andyp_Pelo: yes did that already09:17
unagisystem > pref > sessions09:17
Tiptronicdromer: wat is the 1st step for installin ubuntu09:17
unimatrix9riyonuk , cant see any theme in your url ?09:17
anebcwillu: what do u want to do09:17
PeloTiptronic,  nvidia does not provide FOSS drivers so they are not inlucded in ubuntu vanila, you need to use the alternate install cd to install and then install the restricted drivers afterwards09:17
Tiptronicwat cud br da prob then?09:17
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Peloandyp_,  that's the best I can do for you09:17
tcpdump_lern2spk plz09:17
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Bogus8facefacefaceface: I have ver 2.18.209:18
riyonukI think you have to be logged in?09:18
Tiptronicoh, ubuntu will find these drivers 4me?09:18
Tiptronicafter installation?09:18
dromerTiptronic: partitioning your harddrive09:18
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andyp_Pelo: yes ok thanks for trying09:18
rudy_1unagi: I checked right now, there's nothing about a ppd session to startup09:18
PeloTiptronic, some ar provided but just come here and we will give you instrucions,09:18
facefacefacefaceBogus8, hrm... where is my update dammit!09:18
unimatrix9riyonuk , gnome theme?09:18
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Bogus8facefacefaceface: don't know... like I said, I just installed 7.04 and ran the update once09:18
Tiptronick thanks alot. i downloaaded tha alternate cd so i'll just burn it and try it out09:18
facefacefacefaceBogaurd, that screenshot was of a screen shot tool...09:18
facefacefacefacehow do I find my ununtu version?09:19
PeloTiptronic, best of luck09:19
rudy_1there's network manager... but i dont0' think this is launching a pppd session09:19
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cwilluaneb: a dual boot would be nice, but I'd settle for just having the docs copied to a new partition09:19
Flannelfacefacefaceface: lsb_release -a09:19
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Bogus8facefacefaceface: was it? LOL... I didn't even look LOL09:19
dromerTiptronic: where are you from? there might be ubuntu-support in your native country09:19
Pelofacefacefaceface,  menu <system > admin > system monitor , firsttab09:19
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nexanyone please?09:19
rudy_1unagi: do u know about any file i could check for startup applications?09:19
facefacefacefaceBogus8, heheh09:19
facefacefaceface6.06 !!!09:19
facefacefacefaceOMG etc.09:19
grm1hi, i've get this patch (http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/mac80211/downloads/mac80211-9.0.4.tgz) and apply to kernel (linux-source-2.6.20). no errors appears during patch. but when rebuild kernel i got the following -> http://pastebin.com/m5738716f. could you help me please ?09:19
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cwillu!xgl09:19
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:19
Pelonex,  state your issue, as you can see this is a busy channel sometimes ppl get lost in the traffic09:19
rudy_1rudy_1: ...09:20
tcpdump_nex ask again09:20
grm1!iwlwifi09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about iwlwifi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
fredlHmm anybody have any idea what could cause nautilus to start up real slow all of the sudden? Any way to check what's going on when it starts up?09:20
Tiptronici'm from JA09:20
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Tiptronicjamaica09:20
rudy_1l09:20
facefacefacefacesoo... how do I use apt to get 7.0ish09:20
grm1!496509:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 4965 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
facefacefaceface(and do I really want to)09:20
grm1!4965AGN09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 4965agn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
Flannel!upgrade | facefacefaceface09:20
ubotufacefacefaceface: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:20
cwilluface, update-manager should do it09:20
unimatrix9riyonuk , go take an look here http://art.gnome.org/09:20
Pelofacefacefaceface, you can't directly,  you'lll need to go trhough 6.10 first,  my sugestion just get the 7.04 live cd and clean install09:20
facefacefacefaceThansk Flannel09:20
mikka_candle!ident09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
mikka_candle!ident09:20
facefacefacefacecwillu, really?09:20
grm1!help hi, i've get this patch (http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/mac80211/downloads/mac80211-9.0.4.tgz) and apply to kernel (linux-source-2.6.20). no errors appears during patch. but when rebuild kernel i got the following -> http://pastebin.com/m5738716f. could you help me please ?09:21
facefacefacefacePelo, ty09:21
randomananyone how to add these to pkg-conig09:21
randomanNo package 'xvmc' found09:21
randomanNo package 'xineramaproto' found09:21
randomanNo package 'randrproto' found09:21
randomanNo package 'renderproto' found09:21
randomanNo package 'xextproto' found09:21
tcpdump_OMG09:21
randomanNo package 'xextproto' found09:21
tcpdump_OMG OMGOMG09:21
pramzplease do not spam09:21
rbronoskyHow can I find the IP of a Fiesty maching without a login?  (I have a guy on the phone who has physical access to to box.)09:21
tcpdump_!pastebin :[09:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebin :[ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:21
tcpdump_!pastebin09:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:21
pramzrbronosky, ifconfig09:21
_jasonrandoman: what are you trying to compile?09:21
Pelorandoman, menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager09:21
Flannelrbronosky: without a login?09:21
grm1randoman, sudo apt-get install xorg-dev09:21
rbronoskyyes, without a login.09:21
randomanahh i missed xorg-dev09:22
randomanthanks09:22
pramzrbronosky, ahh no login09:22
randomanit needs to install alot there09:22
facefacefacefaceyikes ... I find this channel stressful !09:22
randoman:P09:22
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Daedaleahello09:22
ShayeFlannel I managed to do it, it seems that the res I was on was better hehe, thanks for ur help09:22
Daedaleaanyone here?09:22
rbronoskyI am the owner of the box. I don't want the guy on the phone to know my password.09:22
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Pelofacefacefaceface,  try being one of the helpers09:22
Flannelrbronosky: I don't think you can.  Without a machine on the same subnet, or the router.09:22
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facefacefacefacePelo, niaahahah09:22
randomanand im trying to compile /xf86-video-intel-2.1.009:22
Daedaleacan anyone tell me how to join other chats and channels?09:22
FlannelDaedalea: /join #channel09:22
tcpdump_you cannot, you need router access or access to another machine onthe network09:22
Bogus8facefacefaceface: http://gilligan.kicks-ass.org:1023/Screenshot.png09:22
Bogus8facefacefaceface: got it now ;)09:22
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PeloDaedalea,   /join #channelname09:22
pramzrbronosky, if it gets an ip from dhcp, check the leases in the dhcp server09:22
Daedaleahow do I know what channel number to join09:22
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rbronoskyI am on the same network, I have a user and password.  I just need to IP so I can login.09:23
Daedaleaor the different channel names?09:23
grm1randoman, that work successfully09:23
PeloDaedalea,  what are you looking for ?09:23
randomanumm  still installing09:23
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tcpdump_type arp -a from another machine on the subnet09:23
randomani just pressed enter :P09:23
DaedaleaI am here to promote my first published poem09:23
tcpdump_should give you the surrounding machines09:23
Daedaleaso any kind of general chat09:23
randomanlet me check09:23
Daedalearealy09:23
randomanits done now09:23
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PeloDaedalea, not realy the correct network for that,  try on dalnet09:23
Daedaleahttp://www.authspot.com/Poetry/On-Woman-Kind.3848009:23
Daedaleadalnet? whats that?09:23
tcpdump_type /server irc.dal.net09:23
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pramzDaedalea, another irc network, one of the oldest ones still around09:24
tcpdump_then /list once you are connected09:24
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marti149hi guys - what video driver do u use for  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 718309:24
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tcpdump_corrrrection... efnet is older than dalnet xD09:24
PeloDaedalea,  another network,  go and /join #xchat for an explanaiton on how to joing other netwroks and channel09:24
randomanyep it almost worked09:24
bentob0xanybody would have a good article to understand well users management under linux?  Something going through concepts and examples and not a command-based tutorial?09:24
randomanbut then i had to install libdrm-dev09:24
randomanand now it works09:24
randomanthanks :)09:24
MasterShrekmarti149, ati or radeon probably09:24
Juhazefnet and ircnet are both older, being forks of the Original09:24
randomangreatly apricated09:24
facefacefacefaceBogus8, yup... that is what I don't have!09:24
Pelotcpdump_,  he said one of the oldest09:24
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marti149so the unknown device 71a3 means what?09:25
thedashpidgin says it needs a SSL library to run MSN, where do I find which one I need ?09:25
Bogus8facefacefaceface: yeah, I know it's of no REAL help... but now you know it's not a myth ;)09:25
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rudy_1anyone can give me a hint about how to check applications (pppd) automatic startup before login into X?09:25
PriceChildthedash, what's wrong with gaim?09:25
MasterShrekbentob0x, if you are ever going to excel in linux, you cant be afraid of the command line09:25
thedashPriceChild :: I thought Gaim had been replaced by pidgin ?09:25
rbronoskytcpdump_: I am on a different switch than my target machine.  So I only get the few machines around me.09:26
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facefacefacefaceBogus8, thanks09:26
PriceChild!highno | thedash09:26
ubotuthedash: A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.09:26
Pelorudy_1,  no idea what you just asked, but autostart apps are in  /etc/init.d and ~/.config/autostart09:26
facefacefacefaceits not unhelpful!09:26
bentob0xit has nothing to do with that, it's more about the implementation than the commands themselves09:26
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rudy_1thanks Pelo09:26
rudy_1will check now09:26
tcpdump_if its on a switch arp -a wont pick it up anyways09:26
tcpdump_would only work on a hub i'd assume09:26
thedashit looks pretty much the same to me so far09:27
tcpdump_tell him to reboot the machine and log in single user mode? create a login for himself09:27
Bogus8facefacefaceface: at least you know it's out there now :)09:27
tcpdump_and then login and ifconfig09:27
randomanwell now i get this when doing make09:27
randoman/usr/include/GL/glxint.h:28:19: error: GL/gl.h: No such file or directory09:27
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tcpdump_quickest way i can think of09:27
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MasterShrek!users09:27
ubotuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo09:27
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facefacefacefacePelo, me too09:27
Bogus8Pelo: certainly not the best and I sure hope there is an inside joke there we aren't getting09:28
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askandI get "xgl not present" when running compiz --replace..why can that be?09:28
facefacefacefacebut... thing is ... it used to work on this laptop... and now its broke...09:28
facefacefacefaceso how do I check the status of apmd?09:28
rbronoskyhe's a windows user, I don't trust him to not brake it.09:28
tcpdump_askand: apparently your video driver doesnt support xgl09:28
s0nixI need some opinion: i want to replace my fu*k*ng ATI 9800XT 256mb for have good video performance and a great desktop BERYL + dual screen + accell 3D for play some game also... im thinking about this card: http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10088627&atab=&spviewed=&newlang=EN&logon=&langid=FR  ...... what do u think? is it reallt better than my 9800xt ?09:28
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facefaceI'm back baby!09:28
howlingmadhowiePelo: you're helping all of us by just being you :)09:28
askand tcpdump_: can I check if it supports it from the terminal some how?09:28
Pelofacefacefaceface, try doing a search in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org,  maybe you'll find help there09:29
Bogus8faceface: are you the guy from nickolodean? ;)09:29
facefaceuh? who is that?09:29
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howlingmadhowieBogus8: i was wondering if he's a fan of the a-team09:29
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faceface /nick face was taken :(09:29
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Bogus8faceface: there was a character that played during comercials called "Face" it was just an animated face that took up the entire screen09:29
facefacebut my face does indeed resemble a face... hence faceface09:29
Pelofaceface,  how about 2face09:29
PriceChildthedash, exactly, which is why you should stick with gaim as its fully supported09:29
howlingmadhowiefaceface: you could have called yourself faceman :)09:29
maTh3Zs0nix, i have Geforce 7600 too an i have no problems with 3d09:30
Bogus8faceface: as long as it is a CLOSE proximity thne ok09:30
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facefacehowlingmadhowie, and you *could* have called yourself 'unkleFunnyPants'09:30
face^2=P09:30
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facefacedoh!09:30
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facefacedrop it all of you! I'm not changing09:30
ikeeOk I just reinstalled Ubuntu. After the loading screen with the bar it goes into a black screen... Any Ideas how to solve this?09:30
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s0nixmaTh3Z: do u have a dual screen and beryl ? and do u play some game ?09:31
Bogus8lame09:31
MasterShrek=P09:31
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leonard_does anyone where to get firefox 2.X for ubuntu sparc (I'm running dapper)09:31
nexI can't get xgl working09:31
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Pelonex,  try asking in #ubuntu-effects they are good with graphic stuff09:31
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howlingmadhowieleonard_: there's a university somewhere in america which has firefox downloads for linux and solaris on sparc. let me see if i can find it...09:32
maTh3Zs0nix: i have only 256mb but i'm test on it Compiz fusion in Sabayon and beryl on ubuntu, but i don't test games, if you want invest more to the future buy something a bit stronger09:32
leonard_howlingmadhowie, thanks09:32
str1hi,  im traying to unmount my usb drive but it keeps failing and saying "An application is preventing ...from bieng unmounted"09:32
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s0nixmaTh3Z: ok09:33
Pelostr1, is any app opened ? which ?09:33
str1i checked but there is no activity on the usb drive and nothing is open regarding it... how can i unmount it09:33
str1Pelo: ^09:33
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Pelostr1, not quite what I asked09:33
pike_it is so odd to see people complaining of 256MB vid cards not being strong enough..09:33
howlingmadhowieleonard_: what sort of sparc machine have you got, btw? :)09:33
facefaceapmd start -> No APM support in kernel09:33
tcpdump_if you are certain nothing is open you can use the -f switch of umount to force an unmount09:34
obero1str1: how comfortable with the cmd line?09:34
tcpdump_but you may end up with bad data... man mount for syntax09:34
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leonard_blade 100, ultra sparc IIe09:34
Pelofaceface, search for apm in synaptic see what comes up09:34
neozengreetings all09:34
facefacety Pelo09:34
tcpdump_err man umount rather09:34
str1Pelo: there is no app open from the usb drive if you thats what u mean...  i havelots of apps on the system pidgin/ktorrent/amarok etc...09:34
randomanwell make seems to be wroking now, I had to install an assload of libs09:35
randomanapt-get install libvorbis-dev liblircclient-dev libesd0-dev libsdl-dev libid3-3.8.3-dev libflac-dev liboggflac-dev libsndfile1-dev09:35
neozenhow would one identify which version of ubuntu-server is installed on a remote box from the terminal?09:35
obero1str1: how comfortable are you with the cmd line?09:35
maTh3Zs0nix: and can you help me with this? after booting feisty live cd it can't detect my real resolution and refresh rate, where can i set it09:35
Pelostr1, I was thinking that one app may be monitoring the usb drive for relevant data,  amorak might be a suspect09:35
str1so i can force it to unmount ?09:35
tcpdump_neozen: uname -r09:35
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str1Pelo: ok ill try closing that09:35
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neozentcpdump_: thank you09:35
howlingmadhowieleonard_: cool :) i have an ultrasparc 10 and a blade 1000 (which is unfortunately at the moment broken). i can't find firefox packages for sparc and linux. maybe my memory is tricking me. they must be in the ubuntu/feisty/sparc depos however.09:35
tcpdump_anytime.09:35
Pelostr1,  umount -f  /path I beleive09:35
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tcpdump_who likes killswitch engage? anyone? :o09:36
leonard_howlingmadhowie, would you recommend a distro upgrade, do you reckon the blade would be able to handle that?09:36
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pike_neozen: cat /etc/*release also09:36
neozentcpdump_: um... all that gave me was the version number for the kernel09:36
s0nixmaTh3Z: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:36
neozenpike_: thankee I'll try that09:36
tcpdump_yeah listen to pike then if you want the ubuntu version09:36
str1Pelo: i tried umount as root but it says device is busy... i closed all system apps09:36
maTh3Zsonix: thanks09:36
str1Pelo: the light is not even bliking so thats strange09:36
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s0nixmaTh3Z: and check about a line "Modes" or "Modeline" ... u will see the current reso and setting of the screen.09:37
facefacethanks dudes, I let you know if I fix it09:37
Pelostr1, did you try with   the -f option ?09:37
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janusta ta09:37
str1Pelo: yes09:37
Flannelhowlingmadhowie: there is indeed.09:37
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str1Pelo:   "sudo umount -f /media/IOMEGA_HDD"09:37
cwilluAhhhhhhh.  The installer doesn't give you the option to resize unless the drive is clean (i.e., clean shutdown).  However, it'd sure be nice if it told you that was why (I know it knows, because gparted knows)09:37
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howlingmadhowieleonard_: my ultrasparc10 used to run feisty without any difficulties.09:38
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tcpdump_str: if you type lsof |grep <usb device name here> do you see anything?09:38
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howlingmadhowieleonard_: if you want, ice-weasel is in the debian repositories09:38
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cwilluI guess that means I have to make xp not bluescreen on shutdown :(09:38
Pelostr1, do a search in the forum for  force umount   I know htere is a way to do it09:38
ufki can't seem to configure my network card for static IP, it appears in ifconfig with no ip address. i added this to /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth0 inet static \ address x \ netmask x\ broadcast x \ gateway x. any ideas ?09:38
STixxI downloaded internet explorer..and it says that it cannont display the webpage...help?..the interntet works just fine...09:38
Ecalixtrying to find the driver for my usb sound.... does "snd-usb-audio" sound right?09:38
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str1Pelo: ok ill check that09:39
ckiHello :) Who can help me with installing drivers for 1 wi-fi Adapter09:39
ckiI cant understand some things09:39
str1tcpdump_:  i tried lsof | grep /media/IOMEGA_HDD/ but that hangs09:39
cwillucki:  what things?09:39
palintheus!ask09:39
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:39
anchor_hy i use "feisty fawn" my problem is: vim ignnore my .vimrc09:39
howlingmadhowieleonard_: but there's a large list of dependencies for the debian build of ice-weasel 2.0.609:39
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tcpdump_ufk type this at console: ifconfig eth0 <ip> <netmask>09:39
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tcpdump_does it retain a setting then?09:39
tcpdump_make sure you sudo that command, btw09:39
obero1str1: do you want another way?09:39
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ckihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49070 i was reading this09:39
Peloanchor_,  using vim as root will have it check for .vimrc in  the root home folder09:40
ufktcpdump_, but i don't want it to be set up only for this session, i want it to be set up after a reboot09:40
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tcpdump_str1: it may take a while to pull up the list09:40
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ckiim useing ubuntu 7.0409:40
ckido i need to compile my kernel?09:40
str1obero1:  ye but i moved stuff to the srive i don't want to lose stuff09:40
anchor_Pelo, i use ivim as normal user09:40
borga2can anyone tell me witch version of v4l-dvb that is installed with 7.04?09:40
obero1yup09:40
cwillucki: it didn't work out of the box for you?09:40
tcpdump_ufk: edit /etc/rc.local and put the ifconfig line in there.09:40
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obero1str1: open a terminal09:41
STixxI downloaded internet explorer..and it says that it cannont display the webpage...help?..the interntet works just fine..09:41
Peloborga2,  search for it in syanptic and you will see the version next to the package name09:41
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Vinchenzo28anyone play command and conquer 3 on ubuntu?09:41
ckiwell when i try to make09:41
ufkahm "ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.321" produces 10.0.0.321: unknown host. any ideas ?09:41
cwillucki: I've got a tiny usb wireless thingy that uses that driver, worked fine for me09:41
str1obero1: done09:41
erezhow can i upgrade to gutsy without reinstalling from scratch? i have a feeling that editing sources.list isn't the best idea..09:41
leonard_howlingmadhowie, sorry for the slow reply, I'm making pancakes. I was having some troubles installing Linux on the machine, so I wouldn't like to break it09:41
tcpdump_downloaded internet explorer?09:41
ckiwell i got too :)09:41
tcpdump_i didnt know they had that for ubuntu09:41
ckibut cant compile and install the driver09:41
borga2I've uppgraded to latest hg version because of problems with a nova-t 500 card09:41
str1obero1: wjat if i reboot will that correctly unmount ?09:41
STixxFUCK UBUNTU09:41
howlingmadhowiecki: you don't need to recompile the kernel any longer. support is compiled into the default kernel09:41
STixxshits gayyyyyyyyyyyyy09:41
PeloSTixx,  try asking for help on this in #winehq09:41
obero1that is a MS way of doing it09:41
ckihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4907009:41
ckiops09:42
anchor_Pelo, i use the same vimrc on a different distribution but the with the same vim version09:42
ckisee09:42
howlingmadhowieleonard_: i understand. having trouble with the install cd booting?09:42
tcpdump_ufk you are using incorrent syntax for the command: man ifconfig :)09:42
ckizd1201-0.14-fw# make  INSTALL zd1201.fw zd1201-ap.fw09:42
ckiFailed:  No firmware directory found09:42
ckimake: *** [install]  Error 109:42
cwillucki: I mean, I didn't need to compile anything, although my custom kernel was a bit complicated09:42
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Peloanchor_, I donT' know anymore about it  sorry09:42
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anchor_Pelo, ok, thx09:42
ufkaahhh i'm so cool! i chose ip 10.0.0.321 :)09:42
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obero1str1: you can use fuser to see what process have opened to the usb disk09:42
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tach00d the xserver and everything on the screen is white, now i am in safe mode and cant log back into my account09:42
ckiseei type make09:42
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str1obero1: ok... :)09:43
Le_Fou_hi09:43
ufkheh thanks :)09:43
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marti149how do you know what version of ubuntu you have- ex feisty, etc09:43
tcpdump_ufk... ummm... maybe thats why its not working :[09:43
howlingmadhowiecki: the instructions are way old.09:43
Le_Fou_anyway i can apt get phpsysinfo on dapper lts?09:43
str1ober1: will i need to read a book about fuser to learn how to use it :)09:43
ckiwell where i can find a new one?09:43
str1obero1: ^09:43
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ufkwelp thanks for your help. it works now with ahmm... with an ip address :)09:43
obero1str1: would you like to learn how to use it right now?09:43
tcpdump_dueces09:43
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str1obero1: yes please09:43
marti149how do you know what version of ubuntu you have- ex feisty, etc09:43
obero1str1: ok09:44
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PeloLe_Fou_, if it is in the repos yes , if not you'll have to find the source or a deb package09:44
howlingmadhowiemarti149: lsb_release -a09:44
tcpdump_cat /etc/*release09:44
tach00pelo,  restarted the xserver and everything on the screen is white, now i am in safe mode and cant log back into my accoun09:44
obero1str1: open a terminal09:44
str1obero1: yes09:44
FlannelLe_Fou_: It's already there.  in universe09:44
borga2anyone out there who could check their version of v4l-dvb for me on Feisty Fawn (7.04) ?09:44
Pelotach00, sorry aboutthat,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg,  and pick only the default options09:44
obero1str1: df -k09:44
Le_Fou_Pelo09:44
Le_Fou_Reading package lists... Done09:44
Le_Fou_Building dependency tree... Done09:44
Le_Fou_E: Couldn't find package phpsysinfo09:44
tach00pelo, thanks09:44
Le_Fou_zat means it isnt in the repos?09:44
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obero1str1: that will list all the mounted filesystems09:45
TBotNik_uall: where is link to find GAIM plugins09:45
ckihowlingmadhowie Where i can find something new ?09:45
FlannelLe_Fou_: You must not have universe enabled09:45
PeloLe_Fou_,  yes that is what it means09:45
str1obero1: yes i found the usb drive there09:45
howlingmadhowiecki: what happens if you just enter "sudo modprobe zd1201"09:45
anchor_this is the vimrc i use: http://nopaste.info/c6eb4fb9d4.html09:45
PeloLe_Fou_, or you have the wrong package name09:45
ckiill try sec09:45
obero1str1: ok, fuser /path/to/usb-drive09:45
FlannelPelo: or he doesn't have universe enabled09:45
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PeloFlannel, good point09:45
obero1str1: on my machine it is fuser /media/disk09:46
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ckiwell nothing happend09:46
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PeloLe_Fou_, make sure all the repositories are enable, ( and turn off your away msg )09:46
Le_Fou_oups sorry09:46
str1obero1:  output --> /media/IOMEGA_HDD:    537209:46
ckii mean nothing come out onthe screen or nothing come  in the shell09:46
anchor_nothing work09:46
Le_Fou_hm09:46
Le_Fou_gonna find how to unable universe09:46
tach00pelo, done, now i am going to try to log back in and see if it worked.09:46
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str1obero1: is that the process ID of the process using it ?09:46
leonard_yeah09:46
howlingmadhowiecki: that's a good sign. what does "ifconfig" say? can you paste the result in pastebin?09:47
Flannel!universe | Le_Fou_09:47
ubotuLe_Fou_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource09:47
obero1str1: good. Now do: ps auxw | grep 537209:47
leonard_howlingmadhowie, yes, the only one I could make work was 6.0609:47
PeloLe_Fou_, in synaptic,  check the menus  for repository,  multiverse is on the first tab09:47
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obero1str1: yes that is the process id09:47
ckiwell ill try w809:47
Le_Fou_thx Flannel09:47
amrcidiotguys how do i extract a file to my opt folder in terminal?09:47
Le_Fou_Pelo its a server09:47
Le_Fou_theres no graphic interface09:47
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PeloLe_Fou_, I can'T help further then , I'm a WIMP09:47
cyrixHi there09:47
FlannelLe_Fou_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment the universe lines09:47
JBandPHi Guys, im using ubuntu Feisty Fawn 7.04 and for some reason my network icon in my taskbar where i actually enable my eth connection disappeared.  Can anyone help me get it back?  i have no idea where it went.09:48
Le_Fou_loll Pelo09:48
Le_Fou_ok Flannel09:48
str1obero1: ok it showed two lines output... one is Thunar file manager and another says "grep 5372"09:48
anchor_No other use vim?09:48
howlingmadhowieleonard_: that's a standard problem with openboot. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. i haven't yet found a way to garantee that it'll work (though the solaris cds seems to always work). i can almost convince myself that it got better after i updated openboot09:48
Curs0ris the fatx kernel patch included in the ubuntu kernel source?09:48
str1obero1: so this means thunar is using the drive...but thunar is closed :(09:48
Peloanchor_,  check for a vim website, they may have a faq a forum or a channel09:48
obero1str1: The one with the Thundar file manager is your culprit.09:48
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obero1str1: kill <process_id>09:49
ckipastebin.con or pastebin.com?09:49
ckiu want09:49
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rancidlmis it possible to install the nvidia graphics driver from the nvidia website.. i have a new laptop thats not supported on the ubuntu nvidia package ?09:49
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Pelorancidlm, you need a source code09:49
howlingmadhowie!pastebin | cki09:49
ubotucki: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:49
rancidlmPelo: what package is that?09:49
ckiahaa 10x09:50
Pelorancidlm, from the nvidia site if they have one I mean09:50
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obero1str1: did it work?09:50
str1obero1: ok 1 thing... the process ID for the thunar process is also 5372...when i try to kill it it says no process killed09:50
Pelo!nvidia | rancidlm09:50
uboturancidlm: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:50
anchor_Pelo, is use and configure vim in the same way on other system (linux distribution) and it works so it sounds to me like a ubuntu special prob.09:50
amrcidiotwhat do i type into my termial to extract a .tar.gz package to my /opt folder?09:50
Dribblesany tips on getting ati radion x1600 working with ubunto dapper09:50
Le_Fou_Flannel i have enable universe but im getting the same error09:50
leonard_howlingmadhowie, yes, that of course is another way to go. I think I will try give the distro upgrade a try later tonight though, thanks for your help:)09:50
FlannelLe_Fou_: have you updated your package cache after editing the sources.list/09:50
FlannelLe_Fou_: sudo apt-get update09:50
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obero1ok09:50
howlingmadhowieleonard_: good luck!09:51
str1obero1: never mind i killed it with kill09:51
Peloanchor_, I'm just trying to point you to places where you can get the help you need09:51
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anchor_?09:51
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obero1str1: cut and paste what the output of ps auxw | grep 537209:51
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Le_Fou_its updating Flannel09:51
anchor_can any global configuration overwite my personal one?09:52
str1obero1:  thanks for that it was very usefull... i know a bit about processed cos we have to write a shell in uni for a homework... this fuser tools is nice09:52
ckihowlingmadhowie http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33269/09:52
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str1obero1:  but can u tell me what is auxw   in the ps ?09:52
Flannelanchor_: no, your personal ones will take precidence09:52
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amrcidiotanyone?09:52
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AllooshHi, my dvd player does not recognize all dvds, some dvds are fine and with others its not, it just does not recognize the drive, and when I click it I get nothing09:52
obero1str1: man ps09:52
mintsouphey what's that type of transparency where you can see other windows through it rather than through to the desktop?09:52
ckii  got my Lan cabel in and my Wi-fi usb in the USb-s :P09:52
anchor_Flannel, but vim ignore it09:52
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str1obero1:  i did it wasn't there :)09:53
Peloamrcidiot,   man  untar09:53
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amrcidiotthanks09:53
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howlingmadhowiecki: got it09:53
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str1obero1:  they have aux only09:53
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obero1str1: ok, hang on09:53
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howlingmadhowiecki: you're using eth0 at the moment, i imagine09:53
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RiCCo69do I have to buy cedega or is there a ripped vs of it out there?09:53
Ecalixin my udev symlinks i setup this line. does it look correct? BUS=="usb", DRIVER=="snd-usb-audio", KERNEL=="dsp1", SYMLINK="dsp"09:53
CoasterMasterhow can I view the call stack of a program that crashed?09:54
Ecalixtrying to symlink dsp1 to dsp09:54
PeloRiCCo69, try wine before buying anything09:54
yaustarI just installed Ubuntu 6.06 and it hasn't picked up my WIreless card on the laptop? Any ideas?09:54
str1obero1: strange google gettings confused on "ps -auxw"09:54
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Allooshagain the same question: Hi, my dvd player does not recognize all dvds, some dvds are fine and with others its not, it just does not recognize the drive, and when I click it I get nothing, any body know why?09:54
RiCCo69wine keeps crashing my system09:54
ferretRiCCo69: cedega release a version by cvs, you have to compile it yourself (or use a build script like cvswinex)09:54
ckiso?09:54
RiCCo69it kicks me out of ubuntu and I have to login again09:54
Radiogrr09:54
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PeloRiCCo69,  did you try the latest versions ?09:54
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obero1str1:09:54
obero1str1:      u               display user-oriented format09:54
Radioi cant delete stuff from my flash drive... i get a read only error09:54
rancidlmaaak.. my laptop is so new i ubuntu doesn't support it yet..lol09:55
RiCCo69yeah I'm on r.8 beta09:55
PeloRadio,    sudo chmod 777 /path09:55
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mrmonday_I'm trying to make the chess game 3D, but can't find the packages... Which ones do I need?09:55
mrmonday_*right packages09:55
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str1obero1: never mind sorry i thought auxw was one command... not a+u+x+w   :)09:55
ckihowlingmadhowie so? any idea? or it works09:55
ckior what? :D09:55
PeloRiCCo69,  maybe you should use stables instead of betas but ok,   yes you will have to buy cedega since it is a commerciial app09:56
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howlingmadhowiecki: so it hasn't been picked up on yet. have you tried downloading and installing the deb: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=23369&d=116914103509:56
str1obero1: as you can see i have a long way to go learning linux :)09:56
obero1str1: oh ok09:56
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obero1str1: wanna hint?09:56
str1obero1: y09:56
obero1str1: google unix is a four lettered word09:56
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Le_Fou_thx Flannel.its working :)09:57
Le_Fou_c ya09:57
obero1str1: and get Unix reference from Oreilly09:57
Radiomeh09:57
thedashis there a tutorial or something that will allow a complete moron to set up Beryl ?09:57
howlingmadhowiecki: hang on: look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb09:57
Radiodoes the chmod apply to all the directory contents?09:57
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gnurphI'm making progress, thank you to those who have helped so far.09:57
Pelothedash, ask in #beryl09:57
gnurphnext step:  BIND configuration09:57
Radioor is there some way to to do it recursively?09:57
PeloRadio,  yes09:57
Flannelthedash: check the forums, and you probably would be more interested in compiz-fusion09:57
thavornI cannot play real meal using gxine, error : cannot load library cook.so and drvc.so. I can play real meal 2 days ago09:57
thedashPelo:: now that would be smart, wouldn't it ?09:58
str1obero1: funny i have that book... linux in a nutshell oreilly...never opened it :)  ill take a look at it now09:58
thavornreal media09:58
gnurphcan't find a GUI interface to set it up.  ideas that somebody would like to share?09:58
howlingmadhowiestr1: linux in a nutshell is really good :)09:58
obero1str1: yup typ09:58
howlingmadhowiestr1: (if you want to look stuff up)09:58
Pelothedash, it's just a better place to ask a beryl question  , they have all the info on hand09:58
thavorncannot play real media, error loading libray cook.so and drvc.so. I can play real media 2 days ago09:58
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str1ok thanks for the help. bye09:58
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MrObviousHi everyone.09:59
gnurphor is BIND only configurable from a command line?09:59
yaustarAs far as I can tell, my card (ipw2200) driver hasn't been loaded. lspci sees it though. How do I load the driver?09:59
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pramzgnurph, have you checked out webmin ?10:00
pramzgnurph, there are web based and gtk based tools to configure BIND10:00
SysErrorPelo: still getting read only errors10:00
pramzgnurph, http://85.214.17.244/gadmintools/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=3310:00
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pramzgnurph, http://www.webmin.com10:01
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PeloSysError, what is the format of that usb drive ? fat fat32 ntfs ?10:01
MrObviousyaustar: Did you try this:? http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/INSTALL10:01
gnurphwebmin isn't showing up in Synaptic, but I'll check out webmin.com10:01
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jmesquitaGuys, does anyone know a good tool to draw network schematics for linux?10:01
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SysErrorhow do i check?10:01
ckihowlingmadhowie is this better than the ndiswrapper?10:01
SysErrorits probably ntfs10:01
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kmaynardgnurph: webmin isnt in the repositories anymore10:02
RiCCo69anyone havea good game out therethat's  amuse me... (i'm working I'm boared)10:02
Pelojmesquita, look in add/remove under graphics there are a few apps to draw schemas10:02
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mneptokRiCCo69: sudo apt-get install maelstrom10:02
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gnurphwebmin requires a web server - not installed.  Lemme try the gtk based stuff at gadmintools10:02
ElemonGW_lorida #ubuntu-marketing #ubuntu-locoteams #ubuntu-us10:02
ElemonGW_xaxaxaxa10:02
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kmaynardgnurph: webmin has its own web server built in10:02
mneptokElemonGW_: stop that10:03
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jmesquitaPelo: Any suggestions based on your experience?10:03
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obero1yaustar: did you get your question answereed?10:03
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thavorn!gxine10:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:03
howlingmadhowiecki: i dunno. the more i look at it, the more difficult it seems to become. it may be better to try it with ndiswrapper. but i've never used ndiswrapper myself10:03
yaustarMrObvious: I just tried modprobe ipw2200 and it says module not loaded10:03
ckiook10:03
kmaynard!webmin I gnurph10:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about webmin i gnurph - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:03
ckiill try with the ndiswrapper10:03
kmaynardwhoops10:03
Pelojmesquita, I dont, realy have any experience,  I just remember seing a few things when i was lookign for a decent CAD prog,  ( didn'T find one)10:03
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kmaynard!webmin | gnurph10:03
ubotugnurph: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.10:03
ckii saw it uses Windows driver10:03
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MrObviousyaustar: Try cat /var/log/syslog | grep ipw220010:04
ckiso ill get the original driver and ill try ;)10:04
howlingmadhowiecki: good luck :)10:04
yaustarI would have assumed that Ubuntu would have installed it for me (as it has previous times) but for same reason it didn't this time10:04
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jmesquitaPelo: I know dia, but isnt enough for me10:04
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ckihowlingmadhowie thanks10:04
iliahi there10:04
jmesquitaPelo: Would like to have some of the mac tools for linux nowadays10:04
Pelojmesquita,  try out a few of the others  their free anyway10:04
MrObviousyaustar: You're on an thernet connection now right?10:04
yaustarMrObvious: Aug 10 01:29:19 yau-ulaptop NetworkManager: <information>^Ieth1: Device is fully-supported using driver 'ipw2200'.10:04
yaustaryes10:04
gnurphlol @ webmin.10:04
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kmaynardi use it, warning or not10:04
MrObviousyaustar: Wow that's weird.10:05
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MrObviousyaustar: Let me search the Ubuntu forums and see if I can find anything.10:05
Pelojmesquita, try this if you have the patience,  look up one you know in  wikipedia,  look at the botom of the page if they have a link to other similar progs , often they have comparison charts10:05
yaustarMrObvious: Cheers10:05
SysErrorPelo: its ntfs10:05
MrObviousyaustar: What chipset do you have?10:05
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iliahow can i make ubuntu to auto connect to internet at boot?10:05
Pelojmesquita,  and worst case scenario  you can run a windows one in wine10:05
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yaustarMrObvious: 0000:01:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)10:06
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jmesquitaPelo: Windows?? Arrrg! No, rather stick with dia. Visio stinks!10:06
PeloSysError,   ubuntu does not write to ntfs by default, you need to instal a special program but I do not know if it react well with  usb ,  try it anyway10:06
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gnurphhmm...gbindadmin is part of synaptic (you know, I tried this already.  I get an error running it.)10:06
Pelo!ntfs-3g | SysError10:06
ubotuSysError: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:06
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iliaguys, i reaaly need help here, please...10:08
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MrObviousyaustar: What is the output of the following 3 commands?10:08
MrObviouslshw -C network10:08
MrObviousiwlist scan10:08
MrObviousiwconfig10:08
yaustarilia: What do you mean?10:08
Peloilia, and we need to know what you need help wtih10:08
MrObviousyaustar: Please post to a pastebin.10:08
skinnypuppy1334I can't see shared folders on an XP mach on the LAN from Fiesty, I can see the computer name, have smb installed, but get a message in the file browser couldnot display folder contents when I click to open the shared computer in network10:08
MrObvious!ask10:08
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:08
iliacool, i repeat: how can i make ubuntu to auto connect to internet at boot?10:08
Peloilia,  what kind of connection ?10:09
MrObviousilia: It should automatically.10:09
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ilialan10:09
anchor_ubuntus vim also  ignore "vim -u .vimrc FILENAME" ???10:09
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Peloilia,  it shoudl connect automaticaly10:09
iliai have to click the icon to connect10:09
skinnypuppy1334Worked fine with 6.10, and nothing has changed on the XP laptop. Any Ideas?10:09
gnurphpramz, when I try to fire gbindadmin, I get "failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory)10:09
yaustarMrObvious: I just ran lshw -C network and my display just went funny BRB, going to reboot10:09
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gnurphpramz, and bind is installed (I believe.)10:09
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MrObviousilia: Odd.10:10
pramzgnurph, last I used it was a while back so10:10
iliayear...10:10
BlauhautHiya all10:10
Peloilia, very odd ,  I donT' knwo what to tell you , if noone else has an anser searchin the forum www.ubuntuforums.org10:10
gnurphis there a better way to set up a DNS server?10:10
iliabeen there, done that10:10
MrObviousskinnypuppy1334: I'm no expert of Samba but soemthing tells me to check the permissions on the Ubuntu computer.10:10
iliathanks anyway10:10
Peloilia,  did you have to perform any command to setup the connection ?10:10
skinnypuppy1334Fiesty having problems browsing XP shares on lan, Ideas anyone??? Flawless under 6.1010:10
BlauhautGuys while i am copying some  files from dvd-rom it usually says invalid unicode and gives me eneric error and also aks me for skip or cancel the copy10:11
iliano10:11
pramzgnurph, check the docs on that app, you might have to run it as root10:11
Blauhautwhat should i do ? pls help10:11
Peloilia,  hold on10:11
rrittenhouseI have built a new system and the motherboard is an Intel DG33FB. I am using a 750GB Sata drive with Ubuntu installed on it (with grub as the boot loader) and for some odd reason the computer cannot boot off of the SATA drive10:11
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MrObviousilia: There is a way to make command run on boot. I can't remember which command it is to turn on the network.10:11
pramzgnurph, since it might be checking for a way to get root access (which you will need to edit files in /var/named )10:11
rrittenhouseIf i boot off of a CD first and tell it to use the first HD itll work.. whats up with that? :)10:11
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skinnypuppy1334MrObvious, I'll look at permissions , the ubuntu is having probs browsing to XP.10:11
BlauhautGuys while i am copying some mp3 files from dvd-rom it usually says invalid unicode and gives me eneric error and also aks me for skip or cancel the copy10:12
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MrObviousilia: Do you use the gnome network manager to connect? There is an option somewhere I think to turn it on automatically.10:12
khelll_i want to download the proper file for ubuntu , from this url, which one should i chose?10:12
Blauhautwhat cna i do ?10:12
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titlebmpswd10:12
uuesleyanyone here have any experience getting 7.04 to run on a compaq 6910p?10:12
jmesquitaBroken package: Skencil10:12
jmesquitaapt-get install skencil and skencil get seg faulted10:12
MrObviousrrittenhouse: Have you tried reinstalling grub?10:12
amrcidiotguys, i need help w. step number six in this tutorial.... how do i do this in the terminal since i don't have write access to the folder. this link is.:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30257010:12
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Peloilia,   try this,  menu > system > admin > network    select the connection,  clck on propeties,  and check atifivate this conneciton ,10:12
skinnypuppy1334I am using Places, Network, it shows the workgroup name, browse there and see the machine names, but can't view the shared folders10:13
|Lunar_Lamp|Hmm, nspluginviewer is maxing out my cpu - what could be causing this?10:13
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khelll_i want to download the proper file for ubuntu , from this url http://www.princexml.com/download/ , which one should i chose?10:13
iliayes i use the network manager10:13
MrObviousamrcidiot: Use sudo.10:13
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amrcidiotbut what commands?10:13
palintheuskhelll_, the .deb10:13
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Peloskinnypuppy1334, I think you need to mount the shared folders in samba or something,  not realy sure I'm just trying to remember what I 've see other ppl talk about10:14
amrcidioti need to extract it in the folder.... how do i do it?10:14
khelll_and how to run it?10:14
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Peloamrcidiot,  just extract it and then move it10:14
yaustarMrObvious: http://rafb.net/p/YY0Nqo28.html10:14
Bernzhey does anyone know how to setup wireless nic10:14
palintheuskhelll_, double click10:14
khelll_lol10:14
khelll_thanks, am newbie to linux......10:15
iliaPelo: done this10:15
skinnypuppy1334I remember mapping through saamba a long time ago, 6.10 ubu just browsed there effortlessly10:15
PeloBernz, wireless mic maybe ?  search your model in the forum for info10:15
palintheuskhelll_, we all were once10:15
zitnerHello, um, can someone help me with my sound?  It works great, but when I play a game, it's crackely.10:15
gnurphpramz, just reinstalled gbindadmin just in case - and there is no /var/named10:15
Peloilia, that,s all I have10:15
amrcidioti extracted it, but when i went to move it, it says i don't have acces to write to it10:15
ilia:(10:15
Bernzi have belkin w/ broadcom chipset10:15
Peloamrcidiot, move it iwth the command likne,   sudo mv /source /target10:16
MrObviousamrcidiot: sudo tar xzvf (tarname) /opt/.............10:16
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MrObviousyaustar: Okay.10:16
amrcidiotthanks10:16
amrcidioti'll try those10:16
MrObviousYW.10:16
Blauhauthttp://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9669/screenshotkm9.png anybody help *-10:16
Blauhaut?10:16
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MrObviousRemember for root access use sudo.10:16
pramzgnurph, find out where your bind files are stored and then point gbindadmin to that, there should be a howto for it on that site10:16
PeloBlauhaut,  what is the issue that goes iwith that screenshot ?10:16
amrcidioti know sudo10:16
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BlauhautPelo; sure10:16
amrcidiotjust didn't know how to move10:17
gnurphI have no frickin' idea how to do that...but I'll try.10:17
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MrObviousyaustar: Is there a switch to turn wireless on? Most laptops I know of have a Function Key + something.10:17
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sald10:17
yaustarMrObvious: Its on10:17
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PeloBlauhaut, you are moving from where to where ?10:18
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BlauhautPelo; Dvd rom to my external HDD10:18
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PeloBlauhaut, wht is the file system of the externatl hdd ?10:18
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titlebwhats the command to uninstall ?10:18
MrObviousyaustar: Hmm. Try sudo rmmod ipw2200 && sudo modprobe ipw2200 and see if that helps.10:18
BlauhautPelo; ntfs10:18
Pelotitleb,  sudo apt-get remove packagename10:18
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binary_blobhi all, when i enter "users" it shows my username 3 times.  any idea how to get rid of the 2 other usernames, or what would have caused this?10:19
titlebPelo, thk u10:19
MrObviousyaustar: Something is weird.10:19
PeloBlauhaut, ubuntu does not write to ntfs by default you need to install the write support10:19
Pelo!ntfs-3g  | Blauhaut10:19
ubotuBlauhaut: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:19
BlauhautPelo; i have that package ntfs-3g10:19
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yaustarMrObvious: http://rafb.net/p/lYMRYu95.html10:19
stefan__hey10:19
BlauhautPelo; sometimes it wrote some file but some not10:19
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MrObviousyaustar: If you want some reading then you might try this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=513371&highlight=intel+2200BG10:19
PeloBlauhaut,  then you need ot apply it to that usb drive,10:20
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BlauhautPelo; my actual pproblem i can see the characters completely on my dvd rom10:20
PeloBlauhaut, possilby you need to restart the computer with the usb hdd plugged in10:20
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SysErrorhrrmm10:20
Gh0stOk. I'm going to attempt partitioning for dual-boot again; anyone mind walking me through it?10:20
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SysErrori think my flash drive is corrupted >.<10:20
howlingmadhowiebinary_blob: you're probably logged on 3 times. try "last"10:20
MrObviousyaustar: I wonder if Linux installed the module.10:20
yaustarMrObvious: The part that grates is that it worked before on a previous install of the same version out of the box :/10:20
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skinnypuppy1334MrObvious, do you have a suggestion as to what permissions would need to be changed to browse to windows?10:20
BlauhautPelo; ic what about my missing characters on filenames ?10:20
PeloBlauhaut, you'll have to rephrase that10:20
SysErrorit get random characters when i do an ls on one of the directories10:20
PeloBlauhaut,  no idea10:21
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Blauhautwhat you mean by rephrase ? rename ?10:21
anchor_ok, my vimrc are not readed becouse vim-tiny was installed (default by ubuntu-minimal?) with the normal vim it works10:21
MrObviousyaustar: Try apt-cache search ipw2200 and give me the output.10:21
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PeloBlauhaut, I didntget your original statement about the missing characters10:21
yaustarMrObvious: Screengrab of Network Settings: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=63ajgqq10:21
MrObviousyaustar: I'm at work on a Winblows PC so I can't reference things myself.10:21
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BlauhautPelo; let me upload some screenshot10:21
Blauhaut:)10:21
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PeloBlauhaut, don'T10:21
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PeloBlauhaut,  are you capable of copying those same files to your desktop for exemple ?10:22
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yaustarMrObvious: http://rafb.net/p/EDMl7j84.html10:22
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Blauhautyes i can copy file to my home10:22
BlauhautPelo;  yes10:22
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binary_blobhowlingmadhowie: you're right.  i'm logged in under pts/0, tty3, and tty1.  any idea how to get rid of the other ones?10:22
skinnypuppy1334Who's got Fiesty and XP filesharing working and what hoops did you have to jump through? I can see the windows machine on the lan, but upon clicking on its name no shares but an error message couldnot display folder contents10:22
PeloBlauhaut,  then the other problem is the ntfs write support,   as for the missing caracters, no idea,  check the forum10:22
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gnurphpramz, I've got zero in trying to find this.  Synaptic says bind is installed, there is no folder /var/named - maybe the daemon isn't running?10:23
MrObviousyaustar: Crud I forget which package the driver would be. Apparently it's not on your system. Let's verify that. Do cd / && find | grep ipw220010:23
Quilbyhow do i install a .rpm10:23
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Quilby?10:23
Peloskinnypuppy1334,  have you tried the forum ?10:23
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gnurphand the gadmintools web site isn't too hot with help.10:23
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stefan__ive got a question. i use ubuntu 7.04 on amd64 (32bit), a ati800gto and firefox and the ubuntu-flash-package for firefox. i think maybe flash could be part of the problem: some site just crash my system, yahoo.com does for example oder video.google sometimes. the funny thing: if it crashes, it crashes so badly, that even the numlock-key doesnt work any more, but a running ftp-download(via gftp) still works and finishes. the scre10:23
stefan__en freezes, but i still move the mouse-cursor10:23
stefan__any ideas10:24
stefan__?10:24
MrObviousQuilby: Run a RPM based distro. It doesn't work on Ubuntu. Which package is it?10:24
PeloQuilby, rpm are for  redhat , ubunjtu uses .deb or bin or the source try to find one of those10:24
howlingmadhowiebinary_blob: you can logout on the ttyX by going to ctrl-alt-fX and typing exit.10:24
skinnypuppy1334I've seen a lot on the forum.... never quite the right thing though10:24
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Quilbyi wanna install the nmap gui10:24
Quilbyis there an ubuntu package for it10:24
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Quilby?10:24
stdinQuilby: nmapfe10:24
Pelostefan__, flash is tricky for sme ppl not much you can do about it10:24
MrObviousQuilby: If ther eis do apt-cache search nmap10:24
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PeloQuilby,  look in synaptic,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager10:25
MrObviousQuilby: Or I guess stdin has the answer. Do sudo apt-get install nmapfe10:25
Quilbyok thanks guys!!!10:25
MrObviousyaustar: Did you post something? Or am I still waiting?10:25
JetteHello, every one. I have a question about making a recovery media of my Ubuntu system here10:25
stefan__Pelo: "tricky for some people"? you mean the admins of the sites or what?10:25
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{Malice}Besides getdeb does anyone else know of a good url to get games?10:26
MrObvious!ask | stefan__10:26
ubotustefan__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:26
yaustarMrObvious: http://rafb.net/p/Y9Cpmy76.html10:26
pramzgnurph, check /etc/named10:26
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stefan__MrObvious: i did10:26
MrObviousyaustar: Well crud my theory was blown out of the window. I really don't know. Just try asking your question again or go to the Ubuntu Forums and make a post.10:26
Pelostefan__,  no I mean for users,  for most ppl it works fine, for some it causes no end of problems,  for me it occasionnaly freezes my whole comp if i exitthe page in the middle of a video10:26
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gnurphpramz, no such folder.10:27
binary_blobhowlingmadhowie: worked like a charm.  thank you.10:27
MrObviousstefan__: Whoops wrong person.10:27
JetteHow can I make a Ubuntu recovery media with my configuration just like windows10:27
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MrObvious!ask | Jette10:27
ubotuJette: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:27
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stefan__Pelo: mhrm.. so if it works for some people, then the problem ist may on the videocard-driver's side or something..10:28
zitnerUm, does anyone have knowledge of sound card issues in Ubuntu?10:28
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stefan__zitner: more specific?10:28
yaustarTo the floor: I have just installed Ubuntu 6.06 and it hasn't picked up my wireless in Network settings although lspci has it listed and it working on previous installations of the same version of Ubuntu. Any ideas10:28
zitnerStefan: It works great, but when I play a game, it's crackely.10:28
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Adlaiconnect10:29
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MrObviousyaustar: Your kernel is 2.6.15-26-386 right?10:29
stefan__zitner: i dont play games except zsnes-stuff, but same problem there :P sorry i cant help10:30
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yaustarMrObvious: No, I upgraded to 2.6.22.110:30
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Obsidianhow do i go about restoring the default samba config files10:30
MrObviousyaustar: Ah ha!10:30
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yaustarMrObvious: Ah ha?10:30
MrObviousyaustar: See the old kernel has the driver, but not the new kernel.10:30
MrObviousyaustar: You compiled it right?10:30
yaustarbullocks10:30
yaustaryep10:30
gnurphpramz, other ideas?10:30
MrObviousVoila!10:30
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MrObviousyaustar: You'll have to get the source and compile the driver yourself.10:31
yaustarThat would explain a few things...10:31
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yaustarMrObvious: Do I need to recompile the kernel?10:31
MrObviousyaustar: See I've never compiled a kernel. I wouldn't think so.10:31
neverblueget out10:31
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MrObviousneverblue: What are you talking about?10:31
networkgamercan someone help me with ps3 ubuntu?10:31
neverblueMrObvious, you took my nick10:32
MrObvious!ask | neverblue10:32
ubotuneverblue: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:32
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