[12:01] <blanky> Nomad7: oh haha
[12:01] <chetnick> does anyone know how to change the Desktop icon size on ubuntu?
[12:01] <blanky> In fact, ironically, my old ATI card WAS, compared to this new Nvidia one...
[12:01] <cafuego> EJ: Check ~/.xsession-errors ... most likle the problem is with the display mamnger or desktop environment.
[12:01] <Nomad7> haha
[12:01] <EJ> [ cafuego] : im not worried about quality as this is a server system, i only want X to help in he config a bit, i usually work via command line
[12:02] <Nomad7> Restricted Drivers Manager is telling you the card isn't supported?
[12:02] <cafuego> blanky: It should work fine with the 'nvidia-glx-new' driver surely...
[12:02] <alexander__> Hey there is anyone into internet connections?
[12:02] <cafuego> alexander__: No, none of us have internet connections.
[12:03] <blanky> cafuego: oh, okay, in the nvidia binary driver howto it said it wasn't supported
[12:03] <alexander__> that wasent my question
[12:03] <chryss> oops sorry wrong channel :)
[12:03] <cafuego> blanky: I'm having a look in the docs now.
[12:03] <orudie> does anyone know how to install nvidia driver
[12:03] <blanky> cafuego: thanks, I feel betrated
[12:03] <Lta3> After updating to 7.04, passwords seem to have reset, making it impossible to login. Also, display settings have been reset, causing the OS to default to a resolution that is not compatible with the monitor.
[12:04] <Lta3> Attempting to boot into a live cd for 6.10 causes kernel panic. The live CD works fine on the computer im using right now. Problem computer is my sister's pentium 386 mhz computer. Tomorrow, i'll be moving her into a AMD k2-2/500
[12:04] <Lta3> i'm stumped, #ubuntu
[12:04] <alexander__> ubuntu is killing my net speed, anyone know how to debug that?
[12:04] <jsescobar> hello, i have a question, can i have one user in ubuntu that doesn't need password to enter to gnome??
[12:04] <Nomad7> orudie: System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager.. that should get you there
[12:04] <Lta3> what could cause trouble logging in, and a kernel panic on the live CD?
[12:04] <cafuego> blanky: What did you have again?
[12:04] <blanky> 8600 GT
[12:04] <blanky> cafuego: 8600 GT
[12:05] <foug> what does the gk in gksuo mean? and is there a site where i can find all of this out?
[12:05] <killown|away> how do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?
[12:05] <cafuego> blanky: Hrm. it's not mentioned in the README :-/
[12:05] <blanky> killown|away: that's a pretty complex question, I suggest you look at the Debian Package Manager tutorial, if that's what you mean
[12:05] <blanky> cafuego: :'( I feel backstabbed, I just switched from ATI with better hopes, total dissappointment
[12:06] <blanky> thanks anyways cafuego
[12:06] <cafuego> blanky: it'll be fine with the driver from nvidia.com
[12:06] <alexander__> can anyone tell my why ubuntu is killing my net speed?
[12:06] <blanky> cafuego: will there ever be a package of it?
[12:06] <cafuego> blanky: ... which will work far better then any (closed) ati driver anyway.
[12:06] <linux_> how i can add another language that i will be able to write in ?
[12:06] <cafuego> blanky: Sure, for the next Ubuntu version undoubtedly.
[12:07] <cafuego> blanky: Thing with the latest hardware is that support usually needs to catch up.
[12:07] <blanky> cafuego: wow, until then...*sigh*, okay I'll try to use the driver from their site
[12:07] <blanky> cafuego: so there should be no problem using their driver right?
[12:07] <cafuego> blanky: it's an easy setup
[12:07] <blanky> I mean, from their site, it'll just be harder to install?
[12:07] <bruenig> foug, I assume it has something to do with gtk
[12:07] <blanky> oh, really
[12:07] <foug> i can't create a folder in my external HD. I downloaded ntfs-config and enabled write support.
[12:08] <cafuego> blanky: Just make sure you install 'build-essential' and 'linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[12:08] <blanky> cafuego: oh okay
[12:08] <blanky> thanks
[12:08] <foug> bruenig: i see, know of a site where i can learn about abreviations for commands?
[12:08] <cafuego> blanky: Their installer has an ncurses interface and is pretty much automagic.
[12:08] <bruenig> foug, no
[12:08] <blanky> cafuego: so just download that and run it, right, not like with ati where I have to do kernel things and modules and what not?
[12:09] <mhoward> first day on ubuntu
[12:09] <cafuego> blanky: The installer will do kernel and X driver stuff for you
[12:09] <jorre> !ndiswrapper
[12:09] <ubotwo> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:09] <blanky> cafuego: sweeet, thanks!
[12:09] <blanky> hey ubotu is back!!
[12:09] <mikeypizano> hello
[12:09] <blanky> I mean
[12:09] <Lta3> mhoward: having fun?
[12:09] <blanky> !botsnack
[12:09] <ubotwo> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:09] <EJ> [ jorre] : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:09] <mikeypizano> is ikonia here?
[12:10] <syuroff> will a standard ubuntu install address > 4 gigs RAM?  or is the 64bit version needed?
[12:10] <KleRoi> hello, i installed ubuntu on a partition of D: using the live CD but now it seems that im not able anymore to run Windows XP that i have installed on C:... anyone knows why?
[12:10] <cafuego> syuroff: grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[12:10] <EJ> !ati
[12:10] <CheeseGardener> Could someone give me some help with gnomad2 and libmtp5????
[12:10] <ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:10] <alexander__> can anyone tell my why ubuntu is killing my net speed?
[12:11] <bruenig> alexander__, your question is stupidly worded
[12:11] <CheeseGardener> I've been looking up information on it but I can't find much helpful info.
[12:11] <jsescobar> hello, i have a question, can i have one user in ubuntu that doesn't need password to enter to gnome??
[12:11] <t0nedef> KleRoi did you install to /dev/hda or /dev/hdb or something entirely different?
[12:11] <foug> i can't do anything to my external HD except load files, i've downloaded ntfs-config and enabled write support but it didn't changed a thing.
[12:11] <cafuego> syuroff: The standard is 4G on 32bit it seems, you can recompile the kernel and enable 16 or 64 or whetever the other limits are.
[12:11] <cafuego> syuroff: 64bit does up to 64 by default I think
[12:11] <KleRoi> t0nedef: im not sure i remember, is there a way to discover it?
[12:12] <t0nedef> KleRoi yeah, open a terminal
[12:12] <fromotion> how do i fix the font to show ansi properly in bitchx?
[12:12] <alexander__> uh i am really sorry grammer boy
[12:12] <t0nedef> lemme know when your ready
[12:12] <Lta3> what could cause trouble logging in a freshly-updated 7.04, and a kernel panic on a 6.10 live CD?
[12:13] <KleRoi> t0nedef: ok i did
[12:13] <syuroff> cafuego: tnx.  I'm trying to install 6.06LTS 64 bit, and I'm getting hung on reading all physical volumes.  I was going to try the standard one, but I don't want to be limited to 4 gigs
[12:13] <t0nedef> type in the terminal mount
[12:13] <t0nedef> KleRoi: mount
[12:13] <EJ> LOLOLOLOL
[12:13] <KleRoi> t0nedef: erm, whats that? sorry im really new to linux
[12:13] <t0nedef> KleRoi: just type mount and hit enter
[12:13] <KleRoi> ok
[12:13] <t0nedef> KleRoi it will list where everything is mounted
[12:14] <t0nedef> KleRoi: tell me where it says / is mounted
[12:14] <EJ> [ cafuego] : i wasent aware that typing X wouldent start the X server correctly, you must type in startx !
[12:14] <nivek__> Hey guys.. Having a problem with ubuntu when booting. I get to the ubuntu loading screen and it freezes at like 15%. How can i figure out where its fucking up at?
[12:14] <nivek__> 7.0
[12:14] <EJ> [ cafuego] : its up and running nw
[12:14] <blanky> !language | nivek__
[12:14] <ubotwo> nivek__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:14] <KleRoi> t0nedef: it says that its mounted on /dev/bus/usb, but well i guess its because now im running the live cd
[12:14] <nivek__> =.=
[12:14] <cafuego> EJ: Ah heh. Well, 'X' does start the server correcly, it just doesn't start any clients ;-)
[12:14] <nivek__> sorry :P
[12:15] <t0nedef> Kle: yah, that doesn't help much, its ok though i can still figure this out with you
[12:15] <cafuego> EJ: So you should be good to go with 100% free drivers now :-)
[12:15] <EJ> im so used to the Slackware Distro, im still getting used to this Distor's commands.
[12:15] <CheeseGardener> Could someone give me a hand with Gnomad2 and libmtp5????
[12:15] <syuroff> cafuego: does this confirm I can address 64 gigs?  CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y
[12:15] <KleRoi> t0nedef: oh allright, btw im on the live cd because i have another problem with the installed version, as i cant start the desktop for some weird gfx driver problem
[12:15] <cafuego> It used to be 'startx' in Slack too, back when I used it.
[12:16] <cafuego> syuroff: Yup
[12:16] <syuroff> great.  much appreciated.
[12:16] <marC--> Anyone have any clue why ubuntu only sees 3.5GB of my ram when i have 4GB in my machine?
[12:16] <cafuego> syuroff: Well, provided the cpu and mobo do PAE or whatever
[12:16] <t0nedef> KleRoi: ah, that sucks, its ok, we are gonna do something a little more fun now, i want you to listen to everything i say exactly, so we don't accidently delete something important
[12:16] <__mikem> what is IKVM?
[12:16] <syuroff> cafuego: hey, no fair throwing in disclaimers now.
[12:16] <bnovc> does anyone know what kind of negative affects come from installing ubuntu through wubi? what kind of speed loss?
[12:16] <KleRoi> t0nedef: allright thanks
[12:16] <cafuego> syuroff: heh
[12:17] <nivek__> bnovc, i just installed it 3 hours ago using wubi
[12:17] <t0nedef> KleRoi: still have a terminal window open?
[12:17] <cafuego> syuroff: well, if the hardware won't do it, you can't blame the kernel.. ;-)
[12:17] <nivek__> and now it wont boot anymore.
[12:17] <KleRoi> t0nedef yeah i do
[12:17] <t0nedef> KleRoi: I want you to type cfdisk /dev/hda
[12:17] <t0nedef> KleRoi do not change anything in here,
[12:18] <t0nedef> KleRoi just tell me if you see a whole lotta linux
[12:18] <bnovc> nivek__: heh, well i installed it on a few computers using wubi but i'm just wondering what type of speed loss users will get ... because i'm thinking i'll tell my friends who havent tried linux to use wubi
[12:18] <KleRoi> t0nedef ok but it tells me fatal error, cannot open disk drive
[12:18] <syuroff> cafuego: that was from an install on an old dell that I queried.  I need my new server to not be limited to 4G, but I'm hanging on 6.06LTS 64 bit "reading all physical volumes".  7.04 finds the raid.
[12:18] <cafuego> t0nedef: 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' would be safer.
[12:18] <gonzalo> hola todos
[12:18] <t0nedef> KleRoi: yeah, i forgot about that
[12:18] <cafuego> syuroff: possibly 6.06 has an older driver then... crud.
[12:18] <t0nedef> Caf: i mean
[12:18] <cafuego> t0nedef: .. and on feisty it would be /dev/sda
[12:18] <t0nedef> KleRoi: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:19] <cafuego> heh
[12:19] <syuroff> cafuego: may be.  kinda wanted LTS for this server.  Don't need new and shiny, long and stable.
[12:19] <t0nedef> Cafuego: only if your running sata
[12:19] <cafuego> t0nedef: No, pata as well.
[12:19] <KleRoi> t0nedef it tells me that there is no such file or directory
[12:19] <cafuego> t0nedef: 2.6.20 and higher use different pata drivers (libata) that present everying as sdX
[12:19] <t0nedef> cafuego: thats not how it is on my laptop, its pata... or did you say 6, i'm runnin seven and it says hda
[12:20] <cafuego> KleRoi: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[12:20] <t0nedef> KleRoi: type same command with sda instead
[12:20] <t0nedef> KleRoi just like Cafuego just said
[12:20] <KleRoi> ok i did but tells me permission denied, unable to open
[12:21] <foug> chmod a+x file.bin isn't working, any help please?
[12:21] <cafuego> KleRoi: You need the 'sudo' part.
[12:21] <t0nedef> Kleroi: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[12:21] <KleRoi> cafuego yes i did that
[12:21] <t0nedef> KleRoi: check your spelling
[12:21] <moriancumer> What is the best way to bulk resize jpg's
[12:21] <cafuego> moriancumer: `convert' from imagemagick
[12:21] <MenZa> moriancumer: I like imagemagick's convert tool
[12:21] <foug> anyone? need help installing a .bin
[12:21] <KleRoi> t0nedef ok a bunch of stuff showed up
[12:22] <MenZa> foug: Which bin is this?
[12:22] <MenZa> What application?
[12:22] <t0nedef> KleRoi does any of it say linux?
[12:22] <foug> MenZa: google earth, i thought chmod a+x was how to install bin's
[12:22] <cafuego> mkdir output; for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize WxH $i output/$i; done
[12:22] <MenZa> ah
[12:22] <MenZa> foug: simple
[12:22] <CheeseGardener> Could someone give me a hand with Gnomad2 and libmtp5????
[12:22] <MenZa> foug: first chmox +x the file, then ./filename
[12:22] <KleRoi> t0nedef yes, there are 4 things and the last one, /dev/sda4 is linux
[12:22] <fuffal0> how do i set the permissions on a directory for a specific user
[12:22] <cafuego> foug: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/feisty-cafuego/google/googleearth_4.1.7076.4458-0cafuego3_i386.deb
[12:23] <foug> MenZa: chmox a+x google.bin   <>  ./google.bin?
[12:23] <t0nedef> KleRoi you installed on your c drive instead of your d drive, reinstall windows to get it back, you need to choose another drive for your ubuntu
[12:23] <MenZa> foug: correct
[12:23] <MenZa> foug: but as cafuego states, maybe using a .deb is better
[12:23] <Yarcanox> *chmod a+x
[12:23] <MenZa> foug: Use his package
[12:23] <cafuego> well, more convenient anyway
[12:23] <LethalLiquid> hey, is there a iso of ubuntu configured for vmware?
[12:23] <MenZa> That, and better integration with the package manager
[12:23] <t0nedef> KleRoi, and think of it this way, at least your learning something new
[12:23] <KleRoi> t0nedef: argh this really sucks :| i was sure i installed it on another partition... and I don't even have the recovery cd for windows with me
[12:23] <cafuego> I try to keep it up to date, and with an apt line it'll auto-update.
[12:24] <foug> MenZa: chmox, command not found.
[12:24] <MenZa> foug: no, chmod +x
[12:24] <Yarcanox> foug do chmod
[12:24] <MenZa> foug: but instead
[12:24] <foug> cafuego: MenZa: don't know how to install cd files either :P
[12:24] <MenZa> foug: rm google.bin
[12:24] <Yarcanox> chmod +x google.bin
[12:24] <t0nedef> KleRoi: well mebbe its about time you got on that graphics driver problem
[12:24] <Yarcanox> ./google.bin
[12:24] <MenZa> foug: then wget http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/feisty-cafuego/google/googleearth_4.1.7076.4458-0cafuego3_i386.deb
[12:24] <tck> what is the stylised icon representing gobuntu does anyone know ?
[12:24] <cafuego> foug: If you fetch that .deb file, you just double-click it.
[12:28] <MenZa> foug: then sudo dpkg -i http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/feisty-cafuego/google/googleearth_4.1.7076.4458-0cafuego3_i386.deb
[12:28] <LethalLiquid> is there an iso setup to run in vmware?
[12:28] <MenZa> err
[12:28] <MenZa> foug: sudo dpkg -i /googleearth_4.1.7076.4458-0cafuego3_i386.deb
[12:28] <MenZa> but remove the /
[12:28] <MenZa> jesus, I cannot type today
[12:28] <MenZa> ok, foug, from the top
[12:28] <foug> MenZa: cafuego: I got the bin working, what does chmod mean? i could have sworn it was a+x, someone told me it was all users + execute
[12:28] <cafuego> heh
[12:28] <araizen> does any know what the dpkg equivalent of 'rpm -qi packagename' would be?
[12:28] <MenZa> chmod merely changes permission
[12:28] <MenZa> +x makes it executable
[12:28] <cafuego> araizen: what does that do?
[12:28] <LethalLiquid> Is there anyone who is not busy and can help me with a quick question?
[12:28] <MenZa> nicely packaged, cafuego
[12:28] <MenZa> LethalLiquid: Fire away.
[12:28] <LethalLiquid> MenZa: Is there a version of ubuntu configured for vmware that I can download somewhere?
[12:28] <t0nedef> KleRoi what graphics card you using?
[12:28] <araizen> cafuego: it showws a summary of the package
[12:28] <t0nedef> KleRoi we can at least get you functional
[12:28] <cafuego> araizen: apt-cache show packagename
[12:28] <cafuego> araizen: It displays basic info and a description.
[12:28] <moriancumer> cafuego: what is the command for convert?
[12:28] <KleRoi> t0nedef: well thanks for the help on this one, any chance you know why when i try to start linux it tells me that "server X doesnt load"? in particular no devices found and no screens found... i searched a bit and i think its because there are no drivers for my ati mobility radeon x1600 gfx
[12:28] <KleRoi> uhm
[12:28] <KleRoi> anyone there?
[12:28] <MenZa> LethalLiquid: Use the regular Ubuntu ISO image.
[12:28] <cafuego> moriancumer: mkdir output; for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize WxH $i output/$i; done
[12:28] <MenZa> KleRoi: yes
[12:28] <LethalLiquid> MenZa: Yea, but I don't know how to configure VMware player to open the ISO.
[12:28] <MenZa> KleRoi: Do you have a GUI now?
[12:28] <cafuego> moriancumer: That'll convert all jpegs in the current dir to a new size jpeg of the same name in a subdit called 'output'.
[12:28] <t0nedef> KleRoi, not sure on that one... *
[12:28] <MenZa> LethalLiquid: You have to create a Virtual machine first.
[12:28] <t0nedef> MenZa: he is on the live-cd
[12:28] <MenZa> right
[12:28] <KleRoi> t0nedef: ok im back, the irc chat didnt update for some time..
[12:28] <MenZa> that's not good
[12:28] <MenZa> hmm
[12:28] <t0nedef> MenZa: just updating you to where were at when we determined he accidently installed over the top of windows
[12:28] <MenZa> what's the name of the free ati driver?
[12:28] <LethalLiquid> MenZa: If you are still on when I finish downloading, could you help me configure it?
[12:28] <KleRoi> t0nedef: i use an ati mobility radeon x1600
[12:28] <blanky> cafuego: you therE?
[12:28] <cafuego> MenZa: 'radeon'
[12:29] <MenZa> t0nedef: ow
[12:29] <blanky> cafuego: would the drivers happen to be in backports? just wondering
[12:29] <cafuego> blanky: About to run off
[12:29] <MenZa> LethalLiquid: possibly
[12:29] <araizen> cafuego: thanks
[12:29] <blanky> cafuego: if not, I'm about to install it the manual way
[12:29] <LethalLiquid> Menza: Which type of pc should i use?  I am on a Compaq Windows XP
[12:29] <cafuego> blanky: I doubt it, they must be in sync with the kernel version.
[12:29] <LethalLiquid> Menza: Standard personal computer?
[12:29] <t0nedef> MenZa: Ya, so We want to get his graphics fix, do you know anything about it, my graphics knowledge is only passing
[12:29] <__mikem> how do I add a dirrectory to the search path
[12:29] <MenZa> LethalLiquid: Sure.
[12:29] <cafuego> blanky: So you'd need a backported kernel as well as a backported nvidia driver.
[12:29] <blanky> cafuego: oh okay, thanks then, bye
[12:29] <moriancumer> cafuego: is the WxH in pixel, inches....?
[12:29] <MenZa> t0nedef: I think he has to get the alternate install CD
[12:29] <blanky> cafuego: ohh okay
[12:29] <cafuego> moriancumer: pixels
[12:29] <jrib> __mikem: search path of what?
[12:29] <MenZa> Yes.
[12:29] <LethalLiquid> MenZa: thnx
[12:29] <bjwebb> hi
[12:29] <scam> do you use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to redo my keyboard?
[12:29] <__mikem> jrib, the shell
[12:29] <t0nedef> MenZa, ah ok
[12:30] <MenZa> scam: That's one way
[12:30] <MenZa> scam: What's the problem with it?
[12:30] <jrib> __mikem: for only your user or for everyone?
[12:30] <t0nedef> KleRoi did you catch all that?
[12:30] <LethalLiquid> MenZa: peace for now
[12:30] <scam> MenZa:  what are some other ways.. i want support for my lx-700 wireless keyboard/mouse
[12:30] <KleRoi> t0nedef no, not at all, what did you write?
[12:30] <t0nedef> MenZa: its saying that no drivers are found and stuff
[12:30] <__mikem> jrib, theres only one user on the system
[12:30] <scam> i want all my buttons to work on my mouse.. and my volume button to work my sound and stuff
[12:30] <MenZa> t0nedef: yes, he has to use the alternate install CD and then install it once the system is installed.
[12:30] <t0nedef> KleRoi: My convo with MenZa, you might need the alternative install cd he was saying, i was asking around
[12:31] <bjwebb> does (k)ubuntu feisty have ntfs write drivers on the cd?
[12:31] <MenZa> scam: Logitech?
[12:31] <scam> it worked on the live cd.. but i had a different keyboard plugged in.. and now it doesnt work
[12:31] <scam> MenZa: yuppers
[12:31] <t0nedef> MenZa: thanks much
[12:31] <moriancumer> cafuego: thanx. I really appreciate it!
[12:31] <sunnypies> anyone, I have a ubuntu desktop with apache web server, however it seems like its blocking when i try to access from a different comptuer
[12:31] <MenZa> bjwebb: I'm not sure; if not, they can be found as the package ntfs-utils, if I recall correctly
[12:31] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  ah yes, i have read something like that in some forum, and thats why i wanted to go on windows, to download the thing and to write it on a cd
[12:31] <sunnypies> anyone know?
[12:31] <jrib> __mikem: export PATH="/path/to/new/directory:${PATH}"          in .bashrc for example would work (or any file your shell sources)
[12:31] <MenZa> sunnypies: it sounds like a bad config; is it apache2?
[12:31] <t0nedef> KleRoi: One sec, i need to afk real fast, then i'll help you out
[12:31] <__mikem> okay thanks
[12:32] <KleRoi> t0nedef: allright im not going anywhere
[12:32] <Kasle> how do i install my bcm43xx? i've tried ndiswrapper
[12:32] <sunnypies> MenZa: yes
[12:32] <MenZa> !bcm | Kasle
[12:32] <ubot3> Factoid bcm not found
[12:32] <sunnypies> MenZa: its 2.2.3
[12:32] <MenZa> sunnypies: Right...
[12:32] <MenZa> sunnypies: Installed from the repositories?
[12:32] <randoman> Hey guys, Im updateing the Kernel, and when i put bzImage in the /boot dir, and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to add the new kernel. it gives me problems. SO i just copy the same initrd as the original kernel, or do I need to build a new initrd?
[12:32] <sunnypies> MenZa: yes sir
[12:33] <MenZa> sunnypies: the latest version is 2.2.4... Vanilla install? As in, you haven't reconfigured it, have you?
[12:33] <n2diy> I may get a chance to deploy Ubuntu in a public library, how can I create a guest account without sudo privledges?
[12:33] <randoman> i just copy and paste the first kernels info in the menu.lst right and edit the kernel to point to the new one right?
[12:33] <sunnypies> MenZa: i haven't configured it,  what is vanilla?  will 2,2,4 fix the problem?
[12:34] <MenZa> Vanilla just means you haven't touched it yet
[12:34] <onur_> how can i use proxy server for itself ?
[12:34] <t0nedef> KleRoi: ok i'm back
[12:34] <MenZa> And I doubt upgrading to 2.2.4 will fix anything, as it's in the configuration files
[12:34] <MenZa> one second please, sunnypies
[12:34] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  ok im here
[12:34] <t0nedef> KleRoi: i'm gonna have to look it up real fast, ok, i'm used to gentoo, and some of this ubuntu stuff isn't memorized yet
[12:34] <fromotion> How do i get BitchX to display ANSI properly?
[12:35] <jerbear> does anyone know if it's possible to use libpam-ssh in a server (non-gui) environment?
[12:35] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  ok thanks
[12:36] <cheatersrealm> how stable is 64bit support for intel chips?
[12:36] <cheatersrealm> esp. with nvidia cards
[12:36] <fromotion> heh
[12:36] <MenZa> sunnypies: can you do cat /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | grep Listen && cat /etc/apache2/httpd.conf | grep Listen for me and paste the output?
[12:36] <Azzkikr> is there any tool to send files over bluetooth, besides gnome-obex-send? Preferrably a terminal application without the use of the X server.
[12:37] <t0nedef> KleRoi: ok, heres how i understand it, your gonna want to go to www.ubuntu.com, and go to the download page
[12:37] <MenZa> Azzkikr: Not as far as I can see; and I've looked quite a bit
[12:37] <Leo> Hey
[12:37] <Leo> Can anyone here help me?
[12:37] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  okay im doing that
[12:37] <t0nedef> KleRoi: before you continue, the alternative version uses a text-based installer
[12:37] <MenZa> !anyone | Leo
[12:37] <ubot3> Leo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:37] <MenZa> :)
[12:37] <Leo> MenZa: Can you help me?
[12:37] <Azzkikr> MenZa: hm. thanks anyhow
[12:37] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  ok, that means its less user-friendly?
[12:37] <MenZa> State your problem, Leo.
[12:37] <MenZa> np Azzkikr.
[12:38] <t0nedef> KleRoi: yeah, but it shouldn't be too hard
[12:38] <Leo> !info
[12:38] <ubot3> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 170 kB, installed size 364 kB
[12:38] <KleRoi> t0nedef ok so what should i do, download the alternate cd?
[12:38] <gordonjcp> Leo: no-one can help you until you tell us the problem
[12:38] <gordonjcp> !ask | Leo
[12:38] <ubot3> Leo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:38] <MenZa> Leo: What is the problem you are experiencing? What do you need help with?
[12:38] <sunnypies> MenZa: I copied your command "cat /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | grep Listen && cat /etc/apache2/httpd.conf | grep Listen" and there was no output
[12:38] <t0nedef> KleRoi: its actually pretty simple, i think you'll be ok just check the box for the alternative version
[12:38] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  btw, i can download it even if im with the live cd?
[12:38] <Leo> MenZa: can you help with wubi?
[12:38] <MenZa> sunnypies: No output... that sounds weird.
[12:38] <Nomad7> ugh, why would my sound suddenly cease to function?
[12:39] <t0nedef> KleRoi: hmmm... ok, you can, but there may be some issues with burning it
[12:39] <welly> hi all.. is it much of a task to set up DNS for a small home network?
[12:39] <MenZa> sunnypies: The Listen setting in the Apache config files specifies who to allow to connect to. It could be a router problem.
[12:39] <t0nedef> KleRoi: cuz you won't be able to put a disk in the drive
[12:39] <welly> am running ubuntu 7.04
[12:39] <Junecy> Hello. I have Fiesty (7.0.4) and am using Gateway 7330GZ. My wireless network card seems to not load or isn't installed. I have a broadcom 4401 builtin wireless adapter...My question is this: How do I get it to work?
[12:39] <MenZa> Leo: Hmm, I don't recommend using Wubi.
[12:39] <MenZa> !broadcom | Junecy
[12:39] <ubot3> Junecy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:39] <t0nedef> KleRoi: so get a pen and paper, i'm gonna give you some instructions to write down
[12:39] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  erm thats what i thought yes, well im trying to download it now
[12:39] <sunnypies> MenZa: yea cus this network is at work so could it be a firewall?
[12:39] <t0nedef> KleRoi: cancel that
[12:39] <MenZa> Junecy: Wireless can be a bit annoying sometimes, but read through the documents thoroughly, and it will most likely work.
[12:39] <t0nedef> KleRoi: it won't do you any good right now
[12:40] <Junecy> thanks
[12:40] <MenZa> sunnypies: It could be a router problem. You'd have to setup router forwarding for port 80 to your local machine.
[12:40] <onur_> how can i use proxy server for itself ?
[12:40] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  ah ok, well i got the pen and the paper then
[12:40] <MenZa> sunnypies: Port forwarding, even
[12:40] <sunnypies> MenZa: yea I bet its behind the firewall or the port isn't open, how would i open port 80?
[12:41] <Azzkikr> sunnypies: depends on your router
[12:41] <t0nedef> KleRoi: one moment, i'm getting the download address for you, i'm gonna give you a complete set of command-line instructions
[12:41] <MenZa> sunnypies: You would have to configure your router, and with that, I'm afraid I can't help you. Find your user manual.
[12:41] <KleRoi> t0nedef: ok i'll wait then
[12:41] <MenZa> (Or if it's a big company, have the techies do it)
[12:41] <MenZa> !fstab
[12:41] <ubot3> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:41] <lezardo> usually you just have to go on 127.0.0.1
[12:41] <t0nedef> KleRoi: i'm in command-line myself, so i need to switch screens
[12:41] <sunnypies> MenZa: yea i wouldn't be able to change router at work lol
[12:42] <KleRoi> t0nedef: okay
[12:42] <MenZa> sunnypies: hehe :)
[12:42] <fromotion> I'm running xubuntu 7.04 and can't seem to get BitchX to display ANSI properly.  How do I fix this?
[12:43] <pheorehs> hello
[12:43] <bjame1> hello
[12:43] <Azzkikr> hello
[12:43] <n30> hi there :)
[12:43] <karina_> :)
[12:43] <noiesmo> hey all. I was installing vmware server on ubuntu fiesty and encounter a couple of issues so I followed the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server and deleted /etc/vmware* as suggested for troubleshooting now when I try and reinstall I get errors related to missing files in /etc/vmware anyone know how to avoid this?
[12:43] <t0nedef> KleRoi: are you on a 32-bit processor or a 64bit one?
[12:44] <KleRoi> t0nedef: i'm quite sure im on a 32
[12:44] <pheorehs> anyone heard of the "CodeLite" editor ?  I'm trying to install it from svn. it is based on wxwidgets. but I'm getting compile errors, I installed wxWidgets from synaptic, but no go.  does a package exist ?
[12:44] <bjame1> I've just installed Ubuntu 7.04 and chose to install KDevelop, opened an example wxWidgets project and hit build
[12:44] <Nomad7> could adding piix to /etc/modules break my sound, somehow?
[12:44] <bjame1> it errors
[12:44] <t0nedef> KleRoi: k, almost got what you need
[12:44] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  allrighty
[12:44] <onur_> how can i use proxy server for itself ?
[12:44] <bjame1> I'm missing some tools:
[12:44] <bjame1> aclocal, libtoolize, automake, autoconf
[12:45] <bjame1> what do I need to install to get these?
[12:45] <Grungebunny> Hello has anyone been successful at getting the gdesklets weather app to work? I even put in the yahoo page for my town and it still says it cannot connect.
[12:45] <pheorehs> bjame1: autoconf, libtool, aclocal from synaptic
[12:45] <WX9J> ckdirs -l returned my /dev/sda1 to have a file system HPFS/NTFS  any idea what the HPFS is  ???
[12:45] <pheorehs> bjame1: it's all there
[12:45] <bjame1> pheorehs: yes I could do that
[12:45] <cabldevil> anyone have a good probram to recover files on fat that have been formated over
[12:46] <bjame1> but is there not a simple package I'm missing
[12:46] <bjame1> I've run sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:46] <pheorehs> bjame: dunno bout that,  I just installed those packages for my build needs, works fine
[12:46] <bjame1> never mind, I'll try synaptic
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> does anyone know when Gutsy comes out????
[12:46] <bjame1> cheers
[12:46] <Azzkikr> october
[12:47] <Azzkikr> iirc
[12:47] <bjame1> aclocal does not exist
[12:47] <Grungebunny> Does anyone have decent experience with gdesklets? I cannot get the weather app to connect even after putting in the Yahoo page for my town like it suggests.
[12:47] <bjame1> I'm not sure I have the right repositories
[12:47] <CheeseGardener> does anyone know of a way to install rhythmbox 0.11.1 through synaptics or apt-get at least???
[12:47] <Azzkikr> Grungebunny: weather desklet is buggy
[12:48] <cafuego> CheeseGardener: 7.10 - ie: october
[12:48] <Azzkikr> i've had the same experience, since edgy eft i believe
[12:48] <TyphoidHippo> So...apparently OSS has finally gone completely open source.  This is big news, right?  All their sound drivers are now available for free and the source is under GPL2.
[12:48] <Grungebunny> azzkikr ahh.. are there any alternatives to gdesklets?
[12:48] <pheorehs> bjame: look under development section,  get autogen,autoconf,automake, bison, byacc, cmake, etc..
[12:48] <t0nedef> KleRoi: ok, got your pen ready?
[12:48] <Xoris> TyphoidHippo: well who cares, i guess we're staying with ALSA...
[12:48] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  yes im here
[12:48] <Azzkikr> Grungebunny: hm, there is a small applet which you can add to your gnome panel, but thats about it
[12:48] <Nomad7> could adding piix to /etc/modules break my sound, somehow? it was working just hours ago and that's the only thing i can think of that i've changed since then :\
[12:49] <ogre> Eh, got a noob question if anyone is bored
[12:49] <Azzkikr> Grungebunny: not much of an eye candy or such
[12:49] <cafuego> Nomad7: Does sound start working if you remove it again?
[12:49] <pheorehs> bjame: also, flex, bison, gcc (v 3 or 4), gettext
[12:49] <t0nedef> KleRoi: when you reboot into your main install type the following
[12:49] <mr_wrong> ogre, just ask.
[12:49] <pheorehs> anyone with any info on my codelite problem ?
[12:50] <Nomad7> cafuego: haha i suppose i should try that... but that's what got my cd drive working properly in the first place :\ i hope i don't have to choose between a working cdrom or sound
[12:50] <tagsoup> I just installed ubuntu on my x86 mackbook pro, and after a restart (in escaped recovery mode through grub) my system is locking up at "Loading Hardware drivers...
[12:50] <t0nedef> KleRoi: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso
[12:50] <TyphoidHippo> Xoris:  Yea, lol...  ALSA doesn't play well with neomagic cards at all.    I went to the site to just buy the drivers, being fed up with not getting ALSA to work, and I was just pleasantly surprised to find that out.  I installed their deb file, I'm not really sure what to do now...since everything is set up to work with alsa, I think.
[12:50] <t0nedef> tell me when your ready for the next step
[12:50] <tagsoup> how can i tell what drivers are locking the system?
[12:51] <Xoris> TyphoidHippo: perhaps ALSA can use OSS as backend. never investigated that, but you should give google a chance i suppose
[12:51] <CheeseGardener> cafuego, will fiesty update itself to gusty automatically, or do I have to install all over again?????
[12:51] <Lin> hi there.. My ubuntu box (feisty) always returns a error while mounting local FS, as I could notice, it return exit code 32 (mount failure) while mounting PROC, probably because proc is already mounted. Returning FAIL, the main drawback for me is because it closes the USPLASH scrren to show the problem. I know that I can avoid it changing the code in initscript, but there is already an official solution?
[12:51] <Xoris> !upgrade
[12:51] <ubot3> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:51] <Azzkikr> CheeseGardener: you can dist upgrade by using apt-get
[12:51] <Azzkikr> there you go :)
[12:51] <Xoris> Azzkikr: not recommended, better to use update-manager
[12:51] <CheeseGardener> so I can upgrade through synpatics?
[12:51] <CheeseGardener> synatpics??*
[12:51] <Azzkikr> Xoris: reason?
[12:51] <Xoris> Synaptic
[12:51] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  ok im ready, btw i have to write that after the server X crashes and it brings me to the console?
[12:51] <ogre> I'm running Ubuntu 4.10 that I finally installed on my pc (spent 2 months trying, long story) and I am trying to update. The command line update only goes so far, then it timeouts. I cant find a download manager to get the updates for me. What am I doing wrong?
[12:52] <Lin> ogre: download 7.4
[12:52] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  well not the console, don't know how its called but when i only have the text linux
[12:52] <t0nedef> KleRoi: after you log in in the console mode,
[12:52] <Xoris> Azzkikr: update-manager does a few vital check, such that you have ubuntu-desktop installed. other than that, i don't know the details, but it's been repeated over and over
[12:52] <CheeseGardener> ok
[12:52] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  ok then im ready for the next step
[12:52] <t0nedef> KleRoi you'll need to log in first though
[12:52] <CheeseGardener> does anyone use rhythmbox 0.11.1???
[12:52] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  yes okay i got that
[12:52] <Lin> ogre: 4.10 (AFAIK was the first version), update-manager didn't exists in that version
[12:53] <TyphoidHippo> Xoris, yea, buddy.  I'm excited about this - This OSS should even work for my firewire audio interfaces, i think.  Off to google, I go.
[12:53] <Trigger911> sup everyone
[12:53] <t0nedef> KleRoi: ok, next type cdrecord
[12:53] <ogre> ah, so I download 7.4 and burn it and restart?
[12:53] <Azzkikr> Xoris: i find that odd to be honest. I can't upgrade my server box using apt-get then
[12:53] <t0nedef> KleRoi: if it says its not installed, type sudo apt-get install cdrecord
[12:53] <Azzkikr> Xoris: i'll read the manual though
[12:53] <Lin> ogre: burn and reinstall.. use desktop version not alternate, should be easier to you..
[12:53] <t0nedef> KleRoi: tell me when your ready
[12:53] <ogre> Bah, if i could do that, I wouldn't be in this mess....
[12:54] <KleRoi> t0nedef: ok im ready
[12:54] <Xoris> Azzkikr: for server, i think in Feisty they've implemented a command-line update-manager
[12:54] <Lin> ogre: there is A LOT improvements since 4.10
[12:54] <Trigger911> i got a guestion im having problems getting kubuntu and xubuntu but it will start to copy the files then the caps lock and scroll lock will turn on/of in scync
[12:54] <firebird619> I have a set of BA digital speakers and a SB Live 5.1 (Dell) sound card. I can only get sound from the front speakers. I have tried different things in the .asoundrc file, however what I find by searching the Internet doesn't have to do with digital speakers. How can I get sound from the rear speakers?
[12:54] <ogre> Yea, I've been reading it's much better.
[12:54] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know if rhythmbox 0.11.1 works with fiesty?????
[12:54] <orudie> i am on this page following instructions to install VLC media player, those are a little confusing
[12:54] <t0nedef> KleRoi: now once we confirmed that we do have cdrecord, you want to do sudo cdrecord --scanbus
[12:54] <orudie> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[12:54] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  okay
[12:54] <orudie> i typed in deb ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ubuntu dapper universe
[12:55] <syuroff> is there likely to be a 7.04 to 8.x LTS upgrade path?  My server seems to reject 6.06LTS
[12:55] <Azzkikr> Xoris: you're correct, just read about it. Thanks for that note
[12:55] <orudie> and nothing happens, then it said Add run and more commands
[12:55] <orudie> what exactly do they mean?
[12:55] <ogre> Lin, is there a way on 4.10 to read an ISO file like it was on a cd from the hard drive. I know the one not for linux....
[12:55] <t0nedef> KleRoi: Ok its gonna print out a lot of info, but whats important is the dev info, you need to right down the three numbers with commas betwen them
[12:55] <orudie> anyone? please help me ... i am new to this
[12:56] <t0nedef> KleRoi: if it lists two different ones, just write down the first one, they are the same device unless you have 2 burners
[12:56] <Lin> ogre: sure.. just double click on iso image
[12:56] <Azzkikr> orudie: it looks like a repository configuration
[12:56] <CheeseGardener> Could someone help me install rhythmbox 0.11.1 through synaptics or add/remove programs?
[12:56] <t0nedef> KleRoi: plus the first one should be the simple version
[12:56] <orudie> Azzkikr, what should i do there?
[12:56] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  okay i got that, i only have 1 burner anyway
[12:57] <ogre> So would it be possible to tell 4.10 to read the ISO on boot?
[12:57] <orudie> Azzkikr, which configuration should i change?
[12:57] <Trigger911> i got a guestion im having problems getting kubuntu and xubuntu but it will start to copy the files then the caps lock and scroll lock will turn on/of in scync
[12:57] <Aye|> Hey, anyone, i have a geforce 6200 pci card, but it doesnt boot into ubuntu with it as the first display device in my BIOS but if i enable my onboard and use my onboard one it boots, and then when X loads it will switch to my graphics card, does anyone have any idea about how to get ubuntu to boot with my card without changing the bios
[12:57] <jdautz> CheeseGardener, why 0.11 on feisty? 10 is not enough good?
[12:57] <orudie> Azzkikr, really, never installed any repositories yet
[12:57] <Azzkikr> orudie: if you look at this file: /etc/apt/sources.list, you'll see repository lines just like those
[12:57] <t0nedef> KleRoi: ok, at this point you need to put a blank cd in the drive
[12:57] <ztomic> CheeseGardener: Applications->Add/Remove
[12:58] <Azzkikr> you can also add them through gnome
[12:58] <KleRoi> t0nedef: ok, is there a problem if i just put it right away when i start the pc?
[12:58] <orudie> Azzkikr, how can i look at this /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:58] <Azzkikr> orudie: sec, im checking for information on this subject
[12:59] <t0nedef> KleRoi: then type 'sudo cdrecord dev=0,0,0 ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso' replace the 0,0,0 with whatever numbers the scanbus gave ya
[12:59] <jdautz> orudie, you can use synaptic
[12:59] <t0nedef> KleRoi nope
[12:59] <t0nedef> KleRoi: i gotta correction for that last command i gave you
[12:59] <t0nedef> KleRoi: then type 'sudo cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso' replace the 0,0,0 with whatever numbers the scanbus gave ya
[12:59] <CheeseGardener> jdautz, and ztomic, I'm trying to get currently I have a iriver clix 2gb U10.  It uses an odd library to upload songs.  libmtp5, which has problems.  Currently Gnomad2 and Amorak use this, but the libmtp5 has problems and crashes the applications often, making upload near impossible sometimes.  However, rhythmbox 0.11.1 has MTP file transfer support of it's own.
[12:59] <Azzkikr> orudie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu   It is a bit outdated (for Edgy Eft) but its still pretty accurate
[01:00] <t0nedef> KleRoi: the -v will make it give you some output so you know when its done
[01:00] <KleRoi> t0nedef: okay i got that one with the /v
[01:00] <KleRoi> t0nedef: -v *
[01:00] <DaRkMeZ> hello! who are de chanel of ubuntu in spanish?
[01:00] <Xoris> !es
[01:00] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:00] <Azzkikr> orudie: its too bad im not behind my desktop computer :/
[01:00] <t0nedef> KleRoi: yah, this ain't no dos
[01:00] <Scout> Where is the default folder located for localhost?
[01:00] <KleRoi> t0nedef: mmm what do you mean by that? :p
[01:01] <t0nedef> KleRoi: finally leaving the disk in the drive, type sudo reboot
[01:01] <Scout> On apache
[01:01] <t0nedef> KleRoi mean by what?
[01:01] <t0nedef> KleRoi: oh, nvm i gotcha now
[01:01] <mr_wrong> Anyone else annoyed by having the packages database always be outdated?  Today I had to compile from source Kino because the repositories had a beta version and I needed 1.1.1
[01:01] <hackle577> hey all, does anyone know if i need to install cube first before installing assaultcube?
[01:01] <TBotNik_1> All: Hey working on my "lp" vs Cups prob.  Made sure I have .ppd file, but still getting error: "Error - no default destination available."  Any ideas on fixing this?
[01:02] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  yeah well anyway ok, i reboot
[01:02] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  and i try reinstalling?
[01:02] <t0nedef> KleRoi: at this point, just follow the on screen instructions, if you get stuck load up your live cd -- the one your on now, and i'm sure someone can help
[01:02] <t0nedef> Kle: yep, you gotta do it with the right cd that will install the proper drivers
[01:02] <jdautz> DaRkMeZ, try #ubuntu-es
[01:02] <KleRoi> t0nedef: okay, i don't have to uninstall the previous ubuntu or anything?
[01:02] <Scout> Where is the default folder located for localhost using apache?
[01:02] <Azzkikr> orudie: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories also has some information on repositories
[01:03] <t0nedef> KleRoi: just tell it to format the existing install, install right over the top of it as if it wasn't there
[01:03] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. How would I install MySQL 4.0 instead of the latest version?
[01:03] <KleRoi> t0nedef: okay i'll try doing that, hoping i don't mess up with the partitions :s
[01:03] <Grungebunny> When the new version of Ubuntu comes out will I have the option to upgrade to it? or will I have to install it from scratch?
[01:03] <t0nedef> KleRoi: don't worry about it, you'll be fine, and at least you haven't had a chance to get anything important on it yet
[01:04] <hackle577> grungebunny: you will upgrade just fine :-)
[01:04] <Grungebunny> yay
[01:04] <t0nedef> KleRoi: there are other ways, but this is the simplest method by far
[01:04] <KleRoi> t0nedef: yes i hope that... well thanks a billion for the help! i'll try what you told me right away
[01:04] <ztomic> CheeseGardener: sorry cant help.
[01:04] <t0nedef> KleRoi, if you had been using it for a while i would have done it the hard way with ya
[01:05] <t0nedef> Kle: good luck, if you get stuck or mess up, you know your way back here
[01:05] <hackle577> hey all, does anyone know if i need to install cube first before installing assaultcube?
[01:05] <Trigger911> iim sorry i hate asking for help
[01:05] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  if this is the easy way i dont really want to know what the hard way is... it already is going to look like a miracle if it works without any graphic interface XD thanks again, i'll give you cookies if it works! bye bye
[01:05] <t0nedef> KleRoi: good luck, if you get stuck or mess up, you know your way back here
[01:06] <Azzkikr> orudie: you're still there?
[01:06] <t0nedef> KleRoi: if it goes really bad, you can always get a friend to help you, if you have one that knows linux
[01:06] <KleRoi> t0nedef: yeah i have a couple, i'll do that... or just go Mac :p
[01:06] <Trigger911> i just got a lappy for school i plan on running Kubuntu and im gonna put flushbox on to replace kde but im having trouble with the instller and I have been looking for an answer on the forums for days
[01:06] <t0nedef> KleRoi: lol
[01:06] <KleRoi> t0nedef:  well brb hopefully, see you!
[01:07] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know if it's possible to have two versions of rhythmbox installed at the same time???
[01:07] <tagsoup> ok, so based on the how to i just read, "networking should just work"
[01:07] <Azzkikr> CheeseGardener: of course it is possible
[01:07] <tagsoup> but i'm at a terminal and ifconfig -a only shows loopback
[01:07] <tagsoup> where do i start?
[01:07] <Azzkikr> CheeseGardener: err
[01:07] <hackle577> hey all, does anyone know if i need to install cube first before installing assaultcube?
[01:07] <linux_> how i can add another language that i will be able to write in ?
[01:07] <Azzkikr> CheeseGardener: disregard that, im not 100% sure
[01:08] <orudie> Azzkikr, thanx man, i just discovered the synaptic package manager
[01:08] <orudie> Azzkikr, its awesome!
[01:08] <orudie> Azzkikr, lol
[01:08] <ztomic> CheeseGardener: http://pmplib.sourceforge.net/document_easypmp_manual.html
[01:08] <t0nedef> MenZa i hope that works for him
[01:08] <orudie> Azzkikr, i would like to find out how to install my video driver too lol
[01:09] <MenZa> t0nedef: Me too :)
[01:09] <MenZa> orudie: Which video card do you have?
[01:09] <Azzkikr> orudie: yeah you could install vlc by running synaptic, or apt-get. But i thought you necessarily needed to add a repository :D
[01:09] <t0nedef> MenZa: good thing it was a fresh install
[01:09] <MenZa> t0nedef: Yeah. :)
[01:09] <MenZa> Azzkikr: Nope, vlc is right there in the main repositories.
[01:09] <orudie> MenZa, oops sorry, sound card
[01:09] <hackle577> hey all, does anyone know if i need to install cube first before installing assaultcube?
[01:10] <MenZa> orudie: Ah; can't help there.. /
[01:10] <orudie> MenZa, i have already installed the video card, i downloaded some script that did everything for me
[01:10] <MenZa> orudie: Oh?
[01:10] <Azzkikr> MenZa: yeah i know, but since orudie was struggling with a VLC repository ...
[01:10] <Azzkikr> slight misundersanding
[01:10] <orudie> Azzkikr, can you help me install my sound card?
[01:10] <t0nedef> now if i can get the network to run on my Solaris box, all my stuff will be great! but i don't expect help with that here
[01:10] <t0nedef> i hate messed up hardware
[01:10] <orudie> Azzkikr, once i get my sound card installed, i would really love to try out compiz fusion
[01:11] <Azzkikr> orudie: erm. First of all, up everything in your sound config, and unmute everything
[01:11] <Azzkikr> orudie: are you using gnome?
[01:13] <hackle577> hey all, does anyone know if i need to install cube first before installing assaultcube?
[01:14] <iratik> wow... this channel seems quiet for once
[01:14] <Azzkikr> yah :D
[01:14] <lostat_C> I have a AMD Sempron 2600+ for a processor and want to recompile a kernel. What processor family should I pick since there is no sempron listed?
[01:14] <ztomic> thought I lost my connection
[01:14] <riaal> How do I make a privet chat in Irssi?
[01:14] <hackle577> my question is in the middle of all of that lol
[01:14] <Junecy> I jsut went through the ndiswrapper manual for installing a windows driver for my wireless card and I failed at every attemp to install the driver...can anyone give me more specific help?
[01:15] <Junecy> Hello. I have Fiesty (7.0.4) and am using Gateway 7330GZ. My wireless network card seems to not load or isn't installed. I have a broadcom 4401 builtin wireless adapter...My question is this: How do I get it to work?
[01:15] <iratik> okay... spoke too soon
[01:15] <iratik> nevermind
[01:15] <hackle577> lawls
[01:15] <Azzkikr> !wireless
[01:15] <ubot3> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:15] <orudie> Azzkikr, where can i see all of the hardware specs in ubuntu, just like device manager in windows?
[01:15] <MenZa> Azzkikr: I believe Junecy has already looked there; I linked him/her earlier
[01:15] <Azzkikr> MenZa: Ah hm.
[01:16] <MenZa> Junecy: I'd love to help, but I was heading off, and besides, I'm not really that leet when it comes to wireless. Sorry. Good luck with it, though.
[01:16] <Junecy> thanks
[01:16] <Junecy> But I'm having no success at all.
[01:16] <Azzkikr> orudie: System -> Preferences -> Hardware information
[01:16] <ztomic> lostat_C: amd64
[01:16] <Cypher21> My windows XP crahsed after i installed ubuntu with dual boot
[01:17] <mattfletcher> using apt-get, how can i totally uninstall and reinstall a package (shorewall) to get the default config files back?
[01:17] <Jamesinator> How can I make a user that thinks their home directory is / and not be able to access anything above their home?
[01:17] <Junecy> Is the hal.dll file missing or currupt?
[01:17] <Scout> Where is the default folder located for localhost using apache?
[01:17] <MenZa> orudie: Or do sudo lshw > hardware.txt
[01:17] <lostat_C> ztomic is it really a 64 bit processor?
[01:17] <Cypher21> Using gnome pantion editor
[01:17] <Junecy> Cypher21: what's the issue?
[01:17] <ztomic> lostat_C: yup
[01:17] <Cooner750> Hello.
[01:17] <MenZa> orudie: then open hardware.txt in your favourite text editor
[01:17] <Jamesinator> Scout: /var/www
[01:17] <MenZa> Cooner750: Hi :)
[01:17] <Azzkikr> Hi Cooner750
[01:17] <Junecy> You may have to reinstall your XP then redo the Grub loader.
[01:17] <ztomic> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_11599_11603,00.html
[01:17] <Cooner750> I'm running on the LiveCD now and getting an error during install.
[01:17] <MenZa> Oh? What error?
[01:17] <Junecy> Windows doesn't like to be resized after it's been installed.
[01:17] <Cooner750> That being
[01:17] <Cooner750> SYSTEM~1_RESTO~1RP460CHANGE~1.1 is 1k, but it has 4 clusters (16k).
[01:18] <ksrini> hi
[01:18] <MenZa> Hmm
[01:18] <Scout> thanks, Jamesinator.
[01:18] <lostat_C> if I compile it as a 64 bit processor wont I lose the ability to run some 2 bi apps
[01:18] <lostat_C> bitbi
[01:18] <lostat_C> bit
[01:18] <Junecy> my suggestion is to use ntsf3g and back up all your important windows files and reinstall it
[01:18] <MenZa> What are you installing this on?
[01:18] <Cypher21> Its good i backed up my games but it will takes hours to install it
[01:18] <orudie> MenZa, how can i access volume control?
[01:18] <ksrini> what is the mp3 player available for linux
[01:18] <Junecy> That's the crummy part I'm afraid
[01:18] <Azzkikr> ksrini: there are lots
[01:18] <MenZa> orudie: By double clicking the volume control Gnome Applet if it's added, if not, right click your gnome panel, choose add to panel and add it.
[01:18] <Cypher21> Is there a way to fix my windows xp without reinstall?
[01:18] <ztomic> lostat_C: I don't know. I'm too poor for such a cool processor.
[01:18] <Cooner750> MenZa: A drive with a NTFS Windows XP partition, a FAT32 partition for "HP Recovery", an ext3 partition that currently has Fedora on it (going to format and install Ubuntu there), and a 402MB swap partition.
[01:18] <Azzkikr> ksrini: rhythmbox, mpg123 (terminal), vlc, amarok ...
[01:19] <mattfletcher> using apt-get, how can i totally uninstall and reinstall a package (shorewall) to get the default config files back?
[01:19] <Cooner750> MenZa: 2.2GHz AMD Athlon XP, 1GB RAM
[01:19] <Junecy> You could try to manually replace the file that went currupt or missing but it'll be a pain
[01:19] <ksrini> but rhythmbox doesnot support mp3
[01:19] <ztomic> lostat_C: google it.
[01:19] <Scout> How do I get DVDs to play on Ubuntu
[01:19] <Jamesinator> How can I set up a user to start in a chrooted environment, such as thinking /home/someuser is really / when logged into someuser?
[01:19] <Azzkikr> orudie: you can also type in `alsamixer` in a terminal
[01:19] <nickrud> mattfletcher, sudo apt-get remove --purge , then reinstall
[01:19] <Cypher21> Does windows have a error log for blue screens?
[01:19] <ksrini> amarok is hanging.
[01:19] <Jamesinator> ksrini: Yes, it does, but you have to install some proprietary codecs to use MP3
[01:19] <Cypher21> so i can find out whats missing
[01:19] <Junecy> With sudo apt-get update the sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:19] <cafuego> ztomic: Heh, amd64's are the cheepest procs you can find ;-)
[01:19] <MenZa> Cooner750: Hmm, I suggest you try opening the "Gnome Partition Editor" from the application menu
[01:19] <Azzkikr> ksrini: rhythmbox does support mp3, you'll just have to install the codecs
[01:19] <MenZa> Cooner750: then format the drive before attempting to install.
[01:19] <orudie> Azzkikr, it only detected my microphone
[01:19] <nickrud> mattfletcher, proper package names of course
[01:20] <ztomic> cafuego: I'm REALLY poor.
[01:20] <Shadow_mil> I need help setting up my printer, all the images where black is supposed to be, its a bit green
[01:20] <Cooner750> MenZa: When I go to Cancel the error, it says "The test of the file system with type fat32 in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) found uncorrected errors."
[01:20] <MenZa> ksrini: If you want to make sure you have all the necessary plugins for pretty much all media, do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-*
[01:20] <MenZa> Cooner750: Ah-hah.
[01:20] <Shadow_mil> I have tried cleaned it and aligning the ink
[01:20] <Shadow_mil> nether helped
[01:20] <Junecy> then sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[01:20] <Cooner750> I'm not even going to be mounting that partition....
[01:20] <Jase> Evening folks
[01:20] <cafuego> ztomic: Heh, amd64's are the cheepest procs you can shoplift!
[01:20] <MenZa> Cooner750: Are you partitioning the disk manually?
[01:20] <orudie> Azzkikr, MenZa, brb thanx guys i think i have to enable my onboard sound
[01:20] <firebird619> In the asound.conf file, can you have two numbers for device? For example, device 0,1 or is there another way to specify two devices.
[01:20] <Cooner750> MenZa: Yes
[01:20] <mattfletcher> nickrud: perfect, thanks
[01:20] <shayne> which IRC channel for gutsy bugs?
[01:20] <Junecy> Windows will tell you what's missing when you try to boot into ti
[01:20] <Jamesinator> Cooner750: Boot into Windows and run chkdsk or a similar app on the filesystem
[01:20] <MenZa> Cooner750: And leaving it unchanged?
[01:21] <nickrud> shayne, ubuntu+1
[01:21] <ztomic> cafuego: how you doin'? Didn't you used to hang out in #debian?
[01:21] <Shadow_mil> shayne, #ubuntu+1
[01:21] <Azzkikr> orudie: i'll be sleeping in the meantime :) good luck
[01:21] <Jase> Anyone here use Ubuntu Server?
[01:21] <Cooner750> MenZa: I'm only formatting the ext3 partition
[01:21] <orudie> Azzkikr, MenZa, or wait, is there a way to find out if my soundcard is functioning?
[01:21] <Jamesinator> Jase: Yes
[01:21] <Azzkikr> orudie: erm...
[01:21] <shayne> nickrud: Shadow_mil; thanks guys
[01:21] <Junecy> The program I jsut had you install will allow you read/write access to the ntfs partition which will hopefully be able to help you to replace the missing/corrupted file(s)
[01:21] <MenZa> shayne: Gutsy bugs should be submitted to Launchpad
[01:21] <Jamesinator> How can I set up a user to start in a chrooted environment, such as thinking /home/someuser is really / when logged into someuser?
[01:21] <MenZa> !launchpad | shayne
[01:21] <ubot3> shayne: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[01:21] <Cooner750> I'll reboot into Windows and run chkdsk, there was a power outage last time Windows was running and I have not turned it back on since
[01:21] <Jase> Would you mind telling me how good it is with serving web pages?
[01:21] <cafuego> ztomic: Still do :-)
[01:21] <Cooner750> brb
[01:21] <Junecy> But it doesn't always work like that.
[01:21] <Jase> with apache
[01:21] <MenZa> Cooner750: Ah, that could be it.
[01:21] <Cypher21> I start my windows XP and then it shows the loading screen then i get the blue screen of death after i installed ubuntu, is tgere a better way to fix it without reinstall windows?
[01:22] <harshil> sound doesntwork in my laptop
[01:22] <Junecy> What's the bluescreen message?
[01:22] <harshil> can someone help me???
[01:22] <Jamesinator> Jase: It's just fine. I don't see a whole lot of difference between it and Debian, which I previously used for server, but it's stable and just... works. :P
[01:22] <ztomic> cafuego: I don't know if I'm on my same nick but I spoke to you there many times. good to see you!
[01:22] <Cypher21> Let me restart my pc
[01:22] <Azzkikr> orudie: if you open up the gnome volume control right, and go to menu File -> Devices
[01:22] <Junecy> ok
[01:22] <Azzkikr> orudie: which devices do you see listed?
[01:22] <Cypher21> it only shows the bcod less then a sec :(
[01:22] <cafuego> ztomic: I yet live. muaha :-)
[01:22] <Cypher21> bsod*
[01:22] <Jase> Jamesinator: IT has to be better then what im using now, xp home :-D
[01:22] <harshil> HDA Intel
[01:23] <ztomic> hehe!
[01:23] <Jamesinator> Jase: Ahaha! Running a server on a Windows system is a deathwish.
[01:23] <harshil> Realtel ALc262
[01:23] <Sithe> Does anyone have Nessus working?
[01:23] <orudie> Azzkikr, i only see the microphone there
[01:23] <Jase> Jamesinator: well i do IT work and im familiar with windows, but i finnaly decided to suck it up and move to ubuntu
[01:23] <orudie> Azzkikr, its the usb microphone
[01:24] <Azzkikr> orudie: yes, but there is a menu File, no?
[01:24] <Jamesinator> Jase: Are you planning to install Ubuntu for desktop or server use? Or both?
[01:24] <Cypher21> The bsod does not give me any info >.<
[01:24] <Azzkikr> orudie: File | Edit | Help
[01:24] <orudie> Azzkikr, i'm clicking on the little speaker icon
[01:24] <Jase> Jamesinator: Server
[01:24] <Jase> Web server really
[01:24] <Jamesinator> Jase: What did you previously use for server use?
[01:24] <Jase> Xp home :-D
[01:24] <Sithe> Can someone help me set up the Nessus server?
[01:24] <Junecy> Then I would say you would need to reinstall windows.
[01:24] <orudie> Azzkikr, and it only gives the microphone
[01:24] <Junecy> :-(
[01:25] <Cypher21> Where does windows xp store the error logs >.>
[01:25] <Cypher21> <.<
[01:25] <orudie> Azzkikr, there i see File, Edit, Help
[01:25] <MenZa> I don't think it stores error logs. :D
[01:25] <Jamesinator> Jase: Ah, ok. Just for future reference, any non-Linux server is trash, IMHO. Ubuntu Server will more than fulfill. :P
[01:25] <ksrini> thanks i installed mp3 codecs and now i am able to play mp3 songs
[01:25] <Azzkikr> orudie: Ok if you now click on File, then Devices
[01:25] <MenZa> ksrini: np :)
[01:25] <Grungebunny> woot
[01:25] <harshil> ok
[01:25] <Azzkikr> ksrini: good joh
[01:25] <Cypher21> windows xp keeps logs of bsod but does not say where :'(
[01:25] <Junecy> In the administration panel there is an option to view those logs I believe
[01:25] <Azzkikr> job*
[01:25] <orudie> Azzkikr, when i click on FIle, i see Change device and Quit
[01:25] <Jase> Jamesinator: Well, I did look at solaris 10 before deciding on ubuntu
[01:25] <JimboDeLimbo> having some trouble with zsnes
[01:25] <Azzkikr> orudie: click on Change Device. How many and which ones are listed?
[01:25] <Junecy> To my knowledge you have to be logged into that partition...
[01:26] <orudie> Azzkikr, when i choose change device - the only item i can choose there is the microphone, no other sound card is listed
[01:26] <Azzkikr> orudie: oh right. Weird.
[01:26] <ztomic> Cypher21: let's see... Click on Start, then click on control panel. Click administrative "somethin.. somethin" then click ...
[01:26] <JimboDeLimbo> I'll be playing for a while and then it just freezes up
[01:26] <ksrini> can anyone tell what chat software should i have to install for configuring gtalk?
[01:26] <Jamesinator> Jase: I haven't used Solaris, but it's your decision. I have a dedicated Ubuntu Server running a few rooms away from me and I've yet to have any problems with it, so that's all I can comment on. :P
[01:26] <Cypher21> SAFE MODE then do a restore point?
[01:27] <orudie> Azzkikr, is there a way to find out if my sound card is supported, i have Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
[01:27] <Cypher21> it may work
[01:27] <Azzkikr> orudie: I have two listed: 0 nVidia CK804 (alsa mixer) - which is my onboard functioning soundcard, and REaltek ALC850
[01:27] <Sithe> Can someone help me set up a Nessus server?
[01:27] <Junecy> Can you enter windows in safemode?
[01:27] <Jase> Jamesinator: Are you running it from home?
[01:27] <Azzkikr> orudie: erm...
[01:27] <Jamesinator> Jase: Yes, it's not a production server.
[01:27] <student_modnar> Hey, has anyone had a problem with ubuntu to where you have to hold down a key (any key) to get it to boot?  If I let go, it stops using the LiveCD and I hear the cdrom drive spin down
[01:27] <Jase> AH
[01:27] <Junecy> Boot into safemode with networking support so if you need to install or download something to fix yourself you're able
[01:28] <orudie> Azzkikr, right i think i have to enable my onboard sound, i think that one is supported
[01:28] <Sithe> student_modnar: no I have not have that problem
[01:28] <Cypher21> OMG safe mode is broken!!!
[01:28] <kitche> Sithe: what do you need help with on setting it up?
[01:28] <orudie> Azzkikr, i have to enable my onboard sound in bios
[01:28] <Cypher21> O_O
[01:28] <Cypher21> >.>
[01:28] <Jase> Jamesinator: So your serving off a cable modem I presume?
[01:28] <Junecy> I would just reinstall windows
[01:28] <Cypher21> I hate reinstalling it :P
[01:28] <Junecy> Don't I know it
[01:28] <Lin> hi there.. My ubuntu box (feisty) always returns a error while mounting local FS, as I could notice, it return exit code 32 (mount failure) while mounting PROC, probably because proc is already mounted. Returning FAIL, the main drawback for me is because it closes the USPLASH scrren to show the problem. I know that I can avoid it changing the code in initscript, but there is already an official solution?
[01:28] <Scout> How do I change file permissions in Terminal?
[01:28] <Cypher21> i did it so many times
[01:28] <Junecy> I had to do it yesterday with my pc
[01:28] <Sithe> kitche: I am trying to set it up to scan my friends site.. and I dont know how to configure the Nessus server.
[01:28] <Jamesinator> Jase: Yes
[01:28] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys
[01:28] <Junecy> Good luck though
[01:28] <Junecy> BTW
[01:28] <Drk_Guy> I got back yo Ubuntu!!!
[01:29] <Azzkikr> orudie: I am looking at ubuntu forums, and i see people with trouble with the X-fi
[01:29] <Drk_Guy> Puppy didn't fit my needs
[01:29] <Jase> Jamesinator: How much uptime do you usally get before a restart?
[01:29] <Drk_Guy> so i just wiped it off my pc
[01:29] <Junecy> Get grub or lilo which ever you prefer on cd or something so that you can reinstall it after your XP instalation is complete.
[01:29] <Jamesinator> Jase: I've never restarted it since I installed Ubuntu Server
[01:29] <orudie> Azzkikr, hey, let me restart i'm going to enable my onboard in bios brb 1 min
[01:29] <orudie> Azzkikr, 30 sec
[01:29] <Junecy> XP will write over the bootloader and wont let you into linux
[01:29] <Jase> Jamesinator, and that was when?
[01:29] <Jamesinator> Jase: A little over four months ago
[01:29] <Junecy> so you'll need to replace it again
[01:30] <Jase> Jamesinator: Ok, im won over :-D
[01:30] <Drk_Guy> Junecy, this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:30] <Jamesinator> Jase: Good luck, then. :P
[01:30] <kitche> SitheL use nessus it's just a gui for the server
[01:30] <Junecy> that'll work too
[01:30] <Sithe> kitche oh I thought it was vulnerability scanner
[01:30] <Jase> Jamesinator: Thanks, im going to givethe live cde a go, and then im off to install the real deal
[01:31] <Junecy> wish I had that link yesterday
[01:31] <Junecy> took me forever to laod grub back
[01:31] <Junecy> I'm not as smart as my mbr
[01:31] <Jamesinator> Jase: Ok then, I'll message you my email, send me a note if you need any more help
[01:31] <Drk_Guy> !grub
[01:31] <ubot3> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:31] <Drk_Guy> Hahaha Junecy
[01:31] <Drk_Guy> Lol
[01:31] <kitche> Sithe: tis is but the server for nessus handles the attacks and the cline package gives the user a nice gui to use
[01:31] <Drk_Guy> Hey!
[01:31] <lhot> hello everyone!
[01:31] <Drk_Guy> What happenned to Ubotu?
[01:31] <Junecy> OKay I need to get my network card working again
[01:31] <t0nedef> !botsnack
[01:31] <ubot3> Yum!
[01:31] <Jamesinator> !ubot3 | Drk_Guy
[01:31] <ubot3> Factoid ubot3 not found
[01:32] <Jamesinator> Dunno then
[01:32] <Azzkikr> !fart
[01:32] <ubot3> Factoid fart not found
[01:32] <t0nedef> he got updated it seems
[01:32] <Jamesinator> Apparently
[01:32] <Drk_Guy> !ubotu | Drk_Guy
[01:32] <Drk_Guy> I think it was only a nick change
[01:32] <Jase> Jamesinator: Thanks for the help, cheers!
[01:32] <kitche> Drk_Guy: ubotu died :)
[01:32] <Drk_Guy> !botsnack
[01:32] <ubot3> Yum!
[01:32] <Jamesinator> Jase: No problem, good luck! :)
[01:32] <t0nedef> ubot3 ate him
[01:32] <ubot3> Factoid ate him not found
[01:32] <Drk_Guy> !ubotu | kitche
[01:32] <ubot3> kitche: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:32] <lhot> so, im running ubuntu fiesty, and my sound card has stopped working
[01:33] <kitche> Drk_Guy: umm ok don't know why you did that switch on me
[01:33] <Drk_Guy> It said "I am Ubotu"
[01:33] <lhot> it worked under 6.06 and 6.10, now it doesnt
[01:33] <Jamesinator> tell Jamesinator about ubotu
[01:33] <Jamesinator> ubot3, tell Jamesinator about ubotu
[01:33] <t0nedef> ubot3 who are you
[01:33] <Ragzouken> Are there still problems with rt61 wireless in the latest ubuntu?
[01:33] <ubot3> Factoid who are you not found
[01:33] <t0nedef> ubot3 who is ubotu
[01:33] <Drk_Guy> FTW?
[01:34] <kitche> Drk_Guy: and your point being since most of the bots that all the ops have in here say that when ubotu goes down
[01:34] <Cypher21> Updating windows takes 13 hours after ubuntu installer CRASHED it :'(
[01:34] <Drk_Guy> Why are we...
[01:34] <Jamesinator> Ragzouken: Yes, especially with WPA encryption. I might be able to help if you need it.
[01:34] <Drk_Guy> Cypher21: Stop updating it
[01:34] <Azzkikr> orudie: bring some good news so i can go to sleep :P
[01:34] <lhot> so....
[01:34] <Drk_Guy> It only brings more trash on it
[01:34] <Cypher21> updating windows?
[01:34] <Ragzouken> Shared key is different to WPA?
[01:34] <Drk_Guy> I'm on an intact Sp1
[01:34] <t0nedef> i don't understand why you would update something thats broken with stuff that just breaks it more
[01:34] <Scout> When I try to login as root it say "Administrator cannot login from this screen" or something similar. Any ideas?
[01:35] <Jamesinator> Ragzouken: I wouldn't know, I've only used WEP, WPA, and unencrypted setups.
[01:35] <t0nedef> Scout: you can't log in as root
[01:35] <kitche> Scout: becuase root can't login at all not even though gdm
[01:35] <Azzkikr> and you shouldn't login as root, Scout.
[01:35] <t0nedef> Scout: log in as a normal user and use sudo to get root access
[01:35] <LordOfTheGiraffe> lol
[01:35] <Scout> Oh, I was always able to login as root with Fedora.
[01:35] <orudie> Azzkikr, the onboard sound is liste
[01:35] <Scout> My bad.
[01:35] <Cypher21> I am updating it so i can play my games without errors
[01:35] <Jamesinator> Scout: You have to use sudo su to access root, afterwards you can use "passwd" while logged into root to change the password and use root normally
[01:35] <t0nedef> Scout: ubuntu is set up a bit more secure in that aspect
[01:35] <Drk_Guy> Cypher21: No game asks for Sp2
[01:35] <Scout> Mhm
[01:36] <orudie> Azzkikr, Nvidia CK Alpha Mixer, but still no sound
[01:36] <Azzkikr> orudie: ok, gnome volume panel again then, select the device from File -> Device -> [watever] 
[01:36] <Drk_Guy> They Only ask for the latest DX
[01:36] <t0nedef> Scout: its ok, i had the same problem when i decide gentoo was too much work to maintain
[01:36] <Ragzouken> ah
[01:36] <Ragzouken> I'm using WEP
[01:36] <kitche> !noroot
[01:36] <ubot3> Factoid noroot not found
[01:36] <Cypher21> My PC runs slow with SP2
[01:36] <Azzkikr> have you upped every volume, orudie ? And unmuted everything?
[01:36] <Cypher21> i don't know y
[01:36] <Drk_Guy> Mine did it too+
[01:36] <nickrud> ScottLij, think of it as a four letter word between you and a mistake
[01:36] <t0nedef> ubot3 toor
[01:36] <ubot3> Factoid toor not found
[01:36] <Drk_Guy> Go back to Sp1
[01:36] <kitche> Drk_Guy: see that's not ubotu :) since it has noroot factiod
[01:36] <Ragzouken> what problems exist with rt61 for anyone, and for peolpe using WEP, Jamesinator
[01:36] <alteroo> Jamesinator, sudo su-ing is not wise..
[01:36] <orudie> Azzkikr, yeah
[01:36] <Drk_Guy> WoW
[01:36] <orudie> Azzkikr, i'm trying all the jacks in the sound card
[01:36] <Azzkikr> orudie: also, go to menu Edit -> Preferences
[01:36] <Drk_Guy> Then we got our reliable bot replaced
[01:37] <alteroo> Jamesinator, sudo -i is the recommended way
[01:37] <Azzkikr> orudie: then check everything listed there
[01:37] <Jamesinator> alteroo: And why's that?
[01:37] <Scout> How would I change the permissions of files owned by root then?
[01:37] <Scout> Specifically /var/www/
[01:37] <keen> anyone here have any experience with xgl and direct rendering?
[01:37] <Azzkikr> Scout: with sudo
[01:37] <Scout> I don
[01:37] <Drk_Guy> Scout: chown
[01:37] <Scout> t understand.
[01:37] <kitche> Scout: add your user to www-data and you'll be bale to write to /var/www
[01:37] <Drk_Guy> !chown
[01:37] <ubot3> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:37] <Cypher21> I got the bsod 10 times during the installer with vista and 15 times while using it which was a ngihtmare so i installed windows xp and ubuntu dual boot but ubuntu had to brake my windows xp :(
[01:37] <nickrud> Scout, sudo <root command you want>
[01:37] <Azzkikr> Scout: sudo chown +x file  - for instance
[01:37] <lhot> so, my sound card a SigmaTel STA9250 worked in ubuntu 6.06, 6.10, and now it doesn't in 7.04
[01:38] <lhot> wtf
[01:38] <Jamesinator> Ragzouken: I don't know about all the problems, but I had to go through the Weekend of Hell to set up rt61 with WPA. Network Manager doesn't set up WPA+rt61 automagically so you have to do some nasty /etc/network/interfaces hacks to get it working
[01:38] <Drk_Guy> !grub > Cypher21
[01:38] <kitche> you should not chown anything in /usr/ /var /etc/ /bin /sbin except for /usr/local/
[01:38] <Jamesinator> Ragzouken: There are some overall problems with usability for the rt61, but I think Network Manager has it down for unencrypted and WEP setups.
[01:38] <linux_> how i can write in other language in ubuntu ? [] 
[01:38] <Akifemre> hi guys, i got an idea. i think "ubuntu" is so rude name, let's change that name, ha?
[01:39] <nemik> hello. is anyone using tribe 4? esp on a thinkpad t61?
[01:39] <Catsceo> how is it rude?
[01:39] <Drk_Guy> Akifemre: Talk with Canonical for that
[01:39] <Jamesinator> Scout: Under your normal user, type: "sudo chown -Rc ${USER}:${USER} /var/www" without the quotes
[01:39] <Catsceo> nemik: #ubuntu+1
[01:39] <orudie> Azzkikr, the green jack is the speakers right?
[01:39] <t0nedef> linux_: what desktop you using?
[01:39] <kitche> nemik: well #ubuntu+1 people might
[01:39] <orudie> Azzkikr, nothing works, wtf
[01:39] <nemik> Catsceo: thanks
[01:39] <orudie> Azzkikr, enabled all those, turned them on to max volume, tried all the jacks in the back
[01:40] <t0nedef> linux_: you'll need to install language support
[01:40] <orudie> Azzkikr, quite as a grabe
[01:40] <Scout> When I try to copy something I get this "cp: omitting directory `/home/jeff/Desktop/kurbong.net/'"
[01:40] <Jamesinator> Akifemre: Ubuntu is the name of an African belief system, I believe. If you consider it offensive, you'll have to cope.
[01:40] <orudie> Azzkikr, grave*
[01:40] <kitche> Jamesinator: you shouldn't tell people to chown that directory sicne apache will not see it correctly then
[01:40] <Scout> Anyone know what I am doing wrong?
[01:40] <LordOfTheGiraffe> it should be called ubanto
[01:40] <Azzkikr> orudie: check the ubuntuforums for support then, my knowledge stops here. www.ubuntuforums.org.
[01:40] <Ragzouken> Jamesinator, are you saying that I should be able to set it up easily for WEP?
[01:40] <lhot> so my sound card, a sigmatel stac9250 worked in 6.06, 6.10, and its not working now
[01:40] <linux_> t0nedef . gnome , and i have installed this lang support
[01:40] <orudie> Azzkikr, ok thanx
[01:40] <Azzkikr> orudie: most users forget to max out their volume stuff
[01:40] <lhot> can anyone help?
[01:40] <Drk_Guy> I want to install Fluxbox on Ubuntu, is that possible?
[01:40] <Jamesinator> kitche: I think you're mistaken, I have /var/www chown'ed to my normal user on this system and it works perfectly
[01:40] <Azzkikr> orudie: so thats why i told you to do that stuff. Anyways, too bad tha wasn't the case :/
[01:40] <MenZa> Drk_Guy: Sure. sudo apt-get install fluxbox.
[01:40] <Akifemre> Jamesinator, i think, it must be such a modern word.
[01:40] <Azzkikr> orudie: im getting a good night sleep now :P
[01:40] <Jamesinator> Ragzouken: As far as I know
[01:40] <Drk_Guy> Cool
[01:41] <Drk_Guy> Thx
[01:41] <Azzkikr> gluck
[01:41] <Ragzouken> ok thanks
[01:41] <Azzkikr> g'luck
[01:41] <orudie> Azzkikr, thanx for you help gnight
[01:41] <MenZa> Drk_Guy: np. To enable it, logout and in gdm change your session to Fluxbox.
[01:41] <Drk_Guy> Thx
[01:41] <MenZa> :)
[01:41] <Jamesinator> Akifemre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28ideology%29
[01:41] <linux_> someone know what todo ?
[01:41] <Drk_Guy> But Flux doesn't have a DM, so i'm sc.....
[01:42] <Scout> Jamesinator: I did what you suggested and nothing is returned.
[01:42] <Akifemre> i don't care ideology
[01:42] <MenZa> Drk_Guy: Not at all.
[01:42] <kitche> Jamesinator: ok if you want to break security go right ahead but please do not tell people to chown that directory instead have them add themselves to www-data so they can write to the directory
[01:42] <MenZa> Drk_Guy: Just do as I told you, it will work.
[01:42] <Scout> And the folder's permissions haven't changed.
[01:42] <Drk_Guy> GDM can load Flux?
[01:42] <Drk_Guy> WoW
[01:42] <Cypher21> hmm
[01:42] <MenZa> Drk_Guy: Should be able to.
[01:42] <Drk_Guy> Thx anyways
[01:42] <Jamesinator> kitche: I'm not a security adviser, I'm only answering Scout's questions.
[01:42] <Drk_Guy> I'll try it someday
[01:42] <firebird619> Could someone help me? I am trying to get my digital speakers to work from both front and rear speakers. I know that front is hw:0,0 and rear is hw:0,1 however, I don't know what I have to put in the .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf to get sound from both at the same time.
[01:43] <keen> Does anyone know if i can use xgl and direct rendering at the same time?
[01:43] <Drk_Guy> :-D
[01:43] <MenZa> Akifemre: If you have any further issues with the name, I suggest you post on the forum stating exactly what you think is wrong with the name. I'd be interested in hearing your point of view.
[01:43] <Jamesinator> Scout: What's returned when you type: stat -c %a "/var/www"
[01:43] <Drk_Guy> I just love Ubuntu
[01:43] <Drk_Guy> Ubuntu is so cool
[01:43] <MenZa> Drk_Guy: We all do. :)
[01:43] <Scout> 755
[01:43] <Drk_Guy> :)
[01:43] <Akifemre> MenZa, ok, i try :/
[01:43] <Jamesinator> Scout: Whoops, wrong command, sorry
[01:44] <Cypher21> Drk_guy: i am using it on my laptop :)
[01:44] <SineFato> laptops are cool
[01:44] <Jamesinator> Scout: ls -la /var/www/
[01:44] <smultron> how come my ubuntu box can't recognize my mac?
[01:44] <smultron> $ ping -c 5 macbookpro.local
[01:44] <smultron> ping: unknown host macbookpro.local
[01:44] <Grungebunny> yeah years of trying to wrestle with red hat always sent me back to windows.. till ubuntu.
[01:44] <kitche> smultron: because it doesn't know the mac's hostname
[01:44] <MenZa> smultron: Try pinging its IP rather than its hostname
[01:44] <SineFato> what does $ mean in the command line
[01:44] <smultron> why wouldn't it know it's hostname?
[01:45] <Jamesinator> smultron: Ubuntu is not magic.
[01:45] <kitche> SineFato: user shell
[01:45] <Jamesinator> smultron: As much as it seems that way
[01:45] <kitche> smultron: becuase you didn't add it in /etc/hosts
[01:45] <SineFato> Kitche: ahem... and what does that mean
[01:45] <gmachine_24> i have numerous terminal windows opening automatically when i log in - other windows also open (such as alacarte menu editor) with no input from me. I need to find where these commands are coming from - a cron? file any ideas?
[01:45] <smultron> mac os x recognizes the ubuntu host name. is OS X magic, then? :P
[01:45] <nickrud> SineFato, it's just a marker, it means user shell: if you were logged in as root, it would be #
[01:45] <Trigger911> if some one has time i got a few questions i hoping some one can answer
[01:45] <MenZa> gmachine_24: Xfce? Gnome?
[01:45] <gmachine_24> i am running ubuntu LTS gnome
[01:45] <kitche> SineFato: that your using a user shell
[01:45] <gmachine_24> Menza: ty
[01:46] <MenZa> gmachine_24: It sounds like you're saving your session.
[01:46] <kitche> SineFato: root shell looks like # instead of $
[01:46] <smultron> kitche: i'll try that
[01:46] <SineFato> So it is like sudo but more like, normal user do
[01:46] <MenZa> gmachine_24: I'm not entirely sure how you'd change that; maybe in System -> Preferences -> Session.
[01:46] <nickrud> lol
[01:46] <gmachine_24> MenZa: I tried Session. Nada.
[01:46] <kitche> smultron: OSX has a service discovery tool Linux has one also but needs some configuring to work right
[01:46] <Scout> Can anyone tell me how to change the file permissions of a file owned by root?
[01:46] <MenZa> gmachine_24: Weird. :/
[01:46] <Junecy> Okay does anyone have any idea on how to actually set up my broadcom 4318 pci network card?
[01:46] <MenZa> Scout: Use sudo.
[01:46] <gmachine_24> Scout: sudo chmod
[01:46] <smultron> kitche: is there anything like that for linux?
[01:47] <MenZa> Scout: If I've been watching correctly, it's /var/www, right?
[01:47] <SineFato> sudo get me a sandwich
[01:47] <smultron> kitche: or is it all manual?
[01:47] <orudie> i have the Nforce 4 Nvidia chipset, and my sound is not working AC7 does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:47] <Jamesinator> SineFato: XKCD FTW.
[01:47] <gmachine_24> MenZa: I know. But... the commands must be somewhere bc they run every time I log in.
[01:47] <nickrud> gmachine_24, did you save a session? (you can look at ~/.gnome2/session so see what's started)
[01:47] <MenZa> Scout: Is it /var/www?
[01:47] <gmachine_24> nickrud: i'll check.
[01:47] <Scout> MenZa: Yes.
[01:48] <MenZa> Scout: And you want to change ownership to your own user?
[01:48] <SineFato> jamesinator: xkcd is a sweet ass-comic
[01:48] <Scout> Yes.
[01:48] <Jamesinator> SineFato: Mmhmm.
[01:48] <MenZa> Scout: sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /var/www
[01:48] <MenZa> I believe
[01:48] <MenZa> You might not need the -R
[01:48] <kitche> smultron: avahi is what linux has if its installed
[01:48] <Scout> Alright lemme try that.
[01:48] <Jamesinator> Scout: The -R option is for Recursive. It changes the owner of the subdirectory's contents, too
[01:49] <smultron> kitche: avahi = bonjour?
[01:49] <MenZa> smultron: Basically, yes.
[01:49] <Jamesinator> Scout: If you plan to edit anything already inside of /var/www you should use -R
[01:49] <MenZa> smultron: But avahi has a reputation for being dodgy.
[01:49] <gmachine_24> MenZa, nikrud: ok, session looks like it is the problem. what do i do? delte it?
[01:49] <marshall> does anybody here have WoW running in wine?
[01:49] <MenZa> smultron: It should be running by default on your system.
[01:49] <MenZa> gmachine_24: I'd assume so.
[01:49] <kitche> smultron: it's like bonjour but it is not bonjour
[01:49] <Scout> MenZa: Nothing is returned and nothing has been changed.
[01:49] <MenZa> !wow | marshall
[01:49] <ubot3> marshall: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[01:49] <gmachine_24> I don't use Wine. But I do whine.
[01:49] <MenZa> Scout: cd /var/www && touch test
[01:50] <gmachine_24> Ok. I'll give it a shot and let you know what happens.
[01:50] <marshall> gmachine_24: HAHAHA
[01:50] <MenZa> Scout: any issues with that command?
[01:50] <meezyfuh> hi, how can i d/l all files from an http directory?
[01:50] <Scout> Nothing is returned.
[01:50] <nickrud> gmachine_24, you can just close everything, and save the session
[01:50] <smultron> MenZa: if it's running by default, how come ubuntu can't recognize my mac's hostname?
[01:50] <Scout> Directory changes of course.
[01:50] <MenZa> smultron: Pass
[01:50] <smultron> MenZa: :P
[01:50] <MenZa> Scout: try ls. Is the file test there?
[01:50] <orudie> i have the Nforce 4 Nvidia chipset, and my sound is not working AC7 does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:51] <Scout> MenZa: It worked.
[01:51] <MenZa> Scout: Hooray.
[01:51] <Scout> Thanks a lot.
[01:51] <MenZa> Scout: No problems. :)
[01:51] <Drk_Guy> /back
[01:51] <SineFato> ubuntu free, OSX $99 per update..... ubutnu ftw
[01:51] <meezyfuh> can anyone help me with wget?
[01:51] <MenZa> SineFato: $130*, but yes.
[01:51] <MenZa> meezyfuh: What's the problem.
[01:51] <MenZa> ?*
[01:51] <t0nedef> wow
[01:52] <t0nedef> my network just dropped outta nowhere...
[01:52] <meezyfuh> MenZa: i don't know how to use it. i'm trying to d/l all files in an http directory but i don't know what parameters to use. as usual the help file is not as helpful as its name would lead me to believe
[01:52] <kitche> Orfeous: well nforce sound uses the ac7 module in linux
[01:52] <meheren> t0nedef, you must be running a common network...
[01:52] <SineFato> menza: plus 3000 for the comp
[01:52] <MenZa> meezyfuh: If you just want to download the file, do wget <target<
[01:52] <MenZa> err
[01:52] <MenZa> meezyfuh: wget <target>*
[01:52] <Junecy> testing
[01:52] <MenZa> for instance, wget http://foo.bar/file.ext
[01:53] <MenZa> meezyfuh: alternately, read man wget
[01:53] <meheren> MenZa, meezyfuh, yeah i LOVE that command...
[01:53] <orudie> i have the Nforce 4 Nvidia chipset, and my sound is not working AC7 does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:53] <MenZa> meezyfuh: It's well-documented
[01:53] <t0nedef> meheren: nah, i only have this problem when i connect to networks using WPA security
[01:53] <meezyfuh> MenZa: k, and how about every file in a directory listing? say, all jpg files
[01:53] <lhot> so, my soundcard, a sigmatel stac#### was working in previous ubuntu installs, it does not work now in ubuntu 7.04 fiesty fawn
[01:53] <MenZa> meezyfuh: Well, that would require you to be able to view e.g. an Apache directory listing
[01:53] <t0nedef> meheren: only happens once in a while
[01:53] <Jamesinator> meezyfuh: wget -r http://www.yoursite.com/
[01:53] <cafuego> meezyfuh: wget -m http://host/some/dir
[01:53] <Junecy> no networking guys here tonight?
[01:53] <MenZa> cafuego: incorrect
[01:53] <meheren> t0nedef, interisting i have yet to see a stable home network.
[01:53] <SineFato> mezzyfuh: wildcard *
[01:53] <meezyfuh> so is it -r or -m? :P
[01:53] <cafuego> meezyfuh: ... you can probably specify filename filters
[01:53] <Jamesinator> meezyfuh: -r is Recursive, -m is Mirror
[01:54] <MenZa> meezyfuh: wget -R -np --accept=jpg,html <target>
[01:54] <t0nedef> meheren: thats because most people use cheap equipment, and then when they set it up, they don't know what they are doing
[01:54] <MenZa> recursive, no-parent, accept only jpegs and html files. (html is required to download an index)
[01:54] <Junecy> my wired connection works perfectly but I can't get anything going with the wireless.
[01:54] <meezyfuh> thank you everyone. seems to be working fine
[01:54] <SineFato> ok they win
[01:54] <meezyfuh> btw is nnh-bot supposed to be soliciting help with installation? or is he phishing
[01:54] <MenZa> np
[01:54] <Junecy> 'ndiswrapper isn't working and I can't seem to figure out anythig else
[01:55] <Junecy> I had fiesty a few weeks ago running perfectly but now it's being a cuntslop
[01:55] <Jamesinator> !language | Junecy
[01:55] <ubot3> Junecy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:55] <MenZa> meezyfuh: nnh-bot is /not/ an official bot
[01:55] <MenZa> !ops
[01:55] <ubot3> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[01:55] <Junecy> Sorry I'm jsut a bit ticked off
[01:55] <meezyfuh> i think it's phishing then.
[01:55] <Drk_Guy> WoW
[01:55] <gmachine_24> Back. Ok, you guys ROCK. It's fixed. At least that part.
[01:55] <SineFato> jamesinator: im stil not over my wondows habits
[01:55] <Junecy> I need this all worked out by monday
[01:55] <MenZa> Ops: [2007-10-08 01:52:56 CEST]  < meezyfuh> btw is nnh-bot supposed to be soliciting help with installation? or is he phishing
[01:55] <Drk_Guy> I'm surprised of the tons of games Ubuntu can run
[01:56] <gmachine_24> Menza, nik thank you.
[01:56] <pulga> any idea about ubuntu doesnt poweroff the hardware when I 'shutdown -h now'?
[01:56] <Drk_Guy> I didn't even now Quak4 ran in Ubuntu
[01:56] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know what this fetchmail error means? Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table
[01:56] <MenZa> Drk_Guy: Natively. :)
[01:56] <Jamesinator> SineFato: We all get over it eventually. I loved Ubuntu after switching.
[01:56] <meezyfuh> ok guys thank you so much for your help, i'm outta here. peace
[01:56] <kitche> meezyfuh: well what do mean sicne I see nothing from nnh-bot that I can see
[01:56] <Drk_Guy> I'm d/l Wormux now
[01:56] <meheren> Drk_guy, linux runs ALOT more games then most people give it credit for.
[01:56] <Drk_Guy> My fave game for PSP..
[01:56] <meezyfuh> kitche: i got a private message from it, saying 'im a bot, if you need help installing i can help you' or something.
[01:56] <Drk_Guy> IN UBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:56] <kitche> @help
[01:57] <gmachine_24> I have one other problem: Sometimes after logging in the computer hangs for 3 minutes or so with just the small arrow in the middle of the screen. Then it continues on to boot normally.
[01:57] <Drk_Guy> F*** this s***, this is so incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:57] <meheren> yep...
[01:57] <Jamesinator> Drk_Guy: Ubuntu is amazing. It's the truth. :)
[01:57] <MenZa> Jamesinator: Indeed it is.
[01:57] <linux_> what in ubuntu is like deamond tools ?
[01:57] <galpa> #ubuntu-es
[01:57] <gmachine_24> What's really amazing is that you can use Ubuntu to pick up chicks.
[01:58] <w30> !reboot hangs
[01:58] <ubot3> Factoid reboot hangs not found
[01:58] <Drk_Guy> Ubuntu is the freakin mother of all other Distros (Not counting Debian off-course)
[01:58] <Xoris> !mountiso > linux_
[01:58] <MenZa> galpa: /j #ubuntu-es
[01:58] <w30> !reboot
[01:58] <ubot3> Factoid reboot not found
[01:58] <meheren> dang... apples's got it down
[01:58] <Drk_Guy> !Iso > linux_
[01:58] <Jamesinator> Drk_Guy: Err, it's actually not... But in functionality, fo' sho'! :)
[01:58] <meheren> tarballing a dmg removes 10megs...
[01:58] <gmachine_24> Ok so ... no help on the hanging after log in???
[01:58] <kitche> Drk_Guy: not really SLS is then Slackware :)
[01:58] <Drk_Guy> Haha!
[01:58] <t0nedef> MenZa: quake 4 is native now? *smells the sulpher from some good ol' phragging now*
[01:58] <Drk_Guy> Slack?
[01:58] <MenZa> t0nedef: I'm pretty sure it is.
[01:58] <orudie> how can i access alsamixer?
[01:58] <Drk_Guy> Tux frags Windows
[01:58] <gmachine_24> Slack is a soon to be former linux.
[01:58] <Drk_Guy> Hahahahaha
[01:58] <MenZa> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ <- t0nedef
[01:59] <t0nedef> MenZa: I'm so gonna buy that
[01:59] <gmachine_24> I want to learn BSD.
[01:59] <Junecy> Does anyone know the command line for checking to see if my network card is running?
[01:59] <meheren> Junecy, lspci
[01:59] <gmachine_24> sudo lcws or something
[01:59] <kitche> gmachine_24: umm slackware will be linux for a while until Pat gets sick but the community around it is big
[01:59] <Junecy> that jsut tells me there is a network card there.
[01:59] <meheren> ah, true
[01:59] <Junecy> it doesn't tell me if it's active or not.
[01:59] <nikrud> gmachine_24, you could open a virtual terminal and tail -f /var/log/messages , you might see something
[01:59] <gmachine_24> kitche: i was just kidding.
[01:59] <MenZa> !ops - [2007-10-08 01:52:56 CEST]  < meezyfuh> btw is nnh-bot supposed to be soliciting help with installation? or is he phishing
[01:59] <ubot3> MenZa: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[01:59] <MenZa> >_>
[01:59] <t0nedef> gmachine_24: Good for you, bsd has some irc channels you should visit, go to their website to get instructions http://www.freebsd.org
[01:59] <MenZa> !ops [2007-10-08 01:52:56 CEST]  < meezyfuh> btw is nnh-bot supposed to be soliciting help with installation? or is he phishing
[01:59] <ubot3> MenZa: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[01:59] <gmachine_24> nik: ok, will try.
[02:00] <MenZa> Oh for crying out loud
[02:00] <Junecy> Cypher any luck?
[02:00] <kitche> Drk_Guy: Slackware is the oldest distro debian is the second oldest active
[02:00] <gmachine_24> t0nedef will do
[02:00] <Drk_Guy> Bsd is (another) *nix clone
[02:00] <MenZa> [2007-10-08 01:52:56 CEST]  < meezyfuh> btw is nnh-bot supposed to be soliciting help with installation? or is he phishing
[02:00] <Drk_Guy> Yep
[02:00] <Cypher21> I install windows
[02:00] <MenZa> !ops
[02:00] <ubot3> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[02:00] <Drk_Guy> Slack is so old
[02:00] <Drk_Guy> but the more experienced one
[02:00] <nalioth> MenZa: yes?
[02:00] <Cypher21> it loads it connected to the internet
[02:00] <SineFato> windows needs an anthropomorphic mascot so that we car draw tux and it in mortal kombat
[02:00] <Junecy> cool.
[02:00] <MenZa> nalioth: It would appear, that we have a phishing bot.
[02:00] <Jamesinator> MenZa: I think it's !ops | message
[02:00] <Junecy> were you dual booting?
[02:00] <MenZa> (See above)
[02:00] <Cypher21> how do i get grub back on
[02:00] <t0nedef> Drk_Guy> yah, but it used to be pure UNIX... a long time ago, the full version still is
[02:00] <Junecy> hold on I'll get you the link
[02:00] <Cypher21> k thinks
[02:01] <MenZa> Cheers nalioth
[02:01] <Drk_Guy> Slack is *nix itself
[02:01] <Drk_Guy> But with Lin*x core
[02:01] <Junecy> Cypher: Follow this instructional https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:01] <gmachine_24> nikrud: can i post the results in the paste bin?
[02:01] <Cypher21> ok
[02:01] <MenZa> !offtopic
[02:01] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:01] <nikrud> gmachine_24, sure, the more eyes the better
[02:01] <t0nedef> gmachine_24: note, BSD doesn't support new hardware as well as linux, so be sure to check the HCL before installing
[02:01] <Drk_Guy> Bsd is for the best guys
[02:02] <MenZa> !offtopic | t0nedef, gmachine_24, Drk_Guy
[02:02] <LDS_Trooper> hey guys, how can I make an ISO of a DVD ?
[02:02] <ubot3> t0nedef, gmachine_24, Drk_Guy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:02] <Drk_Guy> And Bsd users aren't as helpful as Linux ones
[02:02] <gmachine_24> t0nedef: yes, i understanding they like to think of themselves as the badasses of unix/linux/oses in general
[02:02] <Drk_Guy> Ok, ok Menza
[02:02] <MenZa> LDS_Trooper: I recommend gnomebaker or k3b
[02:02] <orudie> anyone please, this is a simple question, i have no sound because of this, i have to somehow access alsamixer , anyone please????.....?????
[02:02] <keen> anyone know if you can use direct rendering and xgl at the same time?
[02:02] <zendo> Hi. Can someone please tell me what package(s) I need to install so I can compile "ordinary" GUI programs?
[02:02] <SineFato> BSD doesn't have a cool name
[02:02] <gmachine_24> ok so how do i get to the paste bin. it's been awhile.
[02:02] <MenZa> !pastebin | gmachine_24
[02:02] <ubot3> gmachine_24: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:02] <Drk_Guy> Bsd, cool?
[02:02] <Drk_Guy> wt.?
[02:02] <LDS_Trooper> MenZa,  I looked at gnomebaker.. not sure how tho
[02:02] <t0nedef> orudie: alsa mixer doesn't load at all?
[02:03] <gmachine_24> MenZa: thanks
[02:03] <hugojuz> !alsa |hugojuz
[02:03] <MenZa> LDS_Trooper: k3b is probably your best bet. Unless it's a movie?
[02:03] <gmachine_24> !pastebin | gmachine_24
[02:03] <gmachine_24> uhoh
[02:03] <SineFato> and linux folks are cool
[02:03] <sh3l1> where is the gimp brushes folder located?
[02:03] <orudie> t0nedef, i dont even know how to load it
[02:03] <Drk_Guy> orudie: In a terminal: alsamixer
[02:03] <LDS_Trooper> yes its a movie
[02:03] <t0nedef> orudie: ah, i see
[02:03] <firebird619> Could someone help me? I am trying to get my digital speakers to work from both front and rear speakers. I know that front is hw:0,0 and rear is hw:0,1 however, I don't know what I have to put in the .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf to get sound from both at the same time.
[02:03] <LDS_Trooper> MenZa,  yes its a movie
[02:03] <t0nedef> orudie: well any volume control app should work
[02:03] <MenZa> sh3l1: /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes
[02:04] <sh3l1> thanks
[02:04] <MenZa> LDS_Trooper: hmm, there are tools for tha
[02:04] <Drk_Guy> sh3l1: /home/.gimp-2.2/brushes/ (If you don't want to share them)
[02:04] <MenZa> But you need third-party tools
[02:04] <MenZa> Or what Drk_Guy said.
[02:04] <sh3l1> oh, ok
[02:04] <sh3l1> thanks
[02:04] <Drk_Guy> You share stuff if you put it into /usr folder
[02:04] <Cypher21> My hard makes CLICK sounds >.>
[02:04] <nikrud> gmachine_24, I'm in and out right now, so be sure to ping me a couple of times
[02:04] <Cypher21> <.<
[02:04] <t0nedef> orudie: what desktop you using? is it gnome?
[02:05] <Cypher21> harddrive*
[02:05] <Drk_Guy> Gnome is the best
[02:05] <jsoftw> xfce4 for the win.
[02:05] <MenZa> Cypher21: Does it run :/?
[02:05] <Pelo> Cypher21,  I would suspect possible physical damange,  check with your local store
[02:05] <SineFato> xkcd ftw
[02:05] <blackes1> hi my daemonsd are not being started anyt \y idea why
[02:05] <Drk_Guy> I've tried JWM, IceWM, and Flux
[02:05] <Drk_Guy> But Gnome got me
[02:05] <MenZa> Sounds like your bearings are dying, Cypher21.
[02:05] <sh3l1> how do i make it so that i can write to /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes
[02:05] <gmachine_24> ok, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33193/
[02:05] <t0nedef> i use mwm personally
[02:05] <LDS_Trooper> MenZa, is it just "copy DVD" in baker?
[02:05] <jsoftw> gnome is all fat. just like kde. :P
[02:05] <gmachine_24> did i do that right
[02:05] <michelson> hi, how do i see what kernel extensions i have installed?  e..g, PAE, smp, etc
[02:05] <MenZa> LDS_Trooper: No, you need third-party tools.
[02:06] <gdb> um, did today's update really screw up anyone else's feisty machine, too?
[02:06] <MenZa> michelson: modprobe -l I think
[02:06] <Cypher21> I found the harddrive in my  room after i clean it :)
[02:06] <Penguinsaremyfri> Anyone know a good tutorial to enable dvd playback?
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> jsoftw: My machine runs it w/o probs
[02:06] <MenZa> !dvd | Penguinsaremyfri
[02:06] <ubot3> Penguinsaremyfri: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:06] <michelson> MenZa: thanks!
[02:06] <jsoftw> Drk_Guy: sure it does.
[02:06] <MenZa> michelson: np :)
[02:06] <LDS_Trooper> MenZa,  ok... because Baker allows me to burn an iso.. I just need to make one
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> Hahaha
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> Baker
[02:06] <gmachine_24> pinguinsaremyfri: check out afterdawn.com
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> lol
[02:06] <MenZa> LDS_Trooper: Yes; I believe you need a third-party tool due to the copy restrictions they put on them these days.
[02:06] <shwang> hi
[02:06] <SineFato> i got gnome and installed kde. kde reminds me of windows. and if i wanted windows i would use windows
[02:06] <MenZa> hello scaner
[02:06] <MenZa> shwang*
[02:07] <gmachine_24> penguinsaremyfri: and videohelp.com
[02:07] <Junecy> cypher if it's clickin it may be going bad.
[02:07] <sh3l1> how do i make it so that i can write to "/usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes" sorry, i am a n00b
[02:07] <Cypher21> :P
[02:07] <shwang> hi MenZa
[02:07] <jsoftw> I have a machine running xfce4 and an identical machine running gnome beside me, which a workmate uses, and his always grinds to a halt.
[02:07] <MenZa> sh3l1: use sudo
[02:07] <SineFato> havent done xfce yet
[02:07] <sh3l1> how?
[02:07] <t0nedef> penguinsaremyfri: what your looking for is libdvdcss2 you should google libdvdcss2 on ubuntu, it should be with in the top results *not the ads*
[02:07] <Junecy> My partners laptop did that then a few days later it said it's final farewell
[02:07] <orudie> i have to mute the IEC958 Capture on alsamixer how can i do that?
[02:07] <Junecy> I still don't know why
[02:07] <jrib> sh3l1: you should be using ~/.gimp-2.2/brushes/
[02:07] <MenZa> sh3l1: e.g., if you're copying, sudo cp <file> /usr/share/gimp/2.0/brushes
[02:07] <jsoftw> Mind you that could be just ubuntu being bloated, I dunno.
[02:07] <Pelo> SineFato,  my thought excatly but I am also told that kde is a lot more versatile then gnome is or so Linus says
[02:07] <Penguinsaremyfri> Thanks
[02:07] <Cypher21> I hva my harddrive and there is no other wayto get one good as the one i have now
[02:07] <MenZa> But do as jrib says
[02:07] <LDS_Trooper> MenZa, ok.. but this is not a commercial disc... are the tools in Synaptic?
[02:07] <sh3l1> thanks
[02:07] <Papper> na ciao
[02:07] <gmachine_24> did anyone read my fascinating pastebin post? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33193/
[02:07] <MenZa> LDS_Trooper: No, not to my knowledge.
[02:07] <jrib> sh3l1: or 2.0 I guess if you are using 2.0
[02:07] <t0nedef> Pelo: no worries, you'll get one you know that you can answer
[02:07] <MenZa> LDS_Trooper: Give Google a quick whirl; "back up dvd linux" or similar
[02:08] <Networkgamer> is anyone good with bluetooth in ubuntu?
[02:08] <LDS_Trooper> MenZa, ok thanks...
[02:08] <MenZa> !bluetooth | Networkgamer
[02:08] <ubot3> Networkgamer: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:08] <Mulvane> fluxbox rocks kde
[02:08] <MenZa> !offtopic
[02:08] <ubot3> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:08] <t0nedef> !alsa
[02:08] <ubot3> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:08] <shwang> does anybody use "keyring-manager" to remember "wpa-settings" ???
[02:08] <Junecy> !broadcom
[02:08] <ubot3> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:08] <MenZa> Jesus, I've been helping in here for 3-4 hours now. I'm gonna need to crash off to bed. Night guys.
[02:08] <zendo> Anyone please? I need to compile some theme package for KDE but GCC keeps reporting to me that I don't have some X11 development libraries installed.
[02:08] <rosensturm> For some reason my whole system locks up if I run sdlmame with my xbox360 controller plugged in (With the compiled 369 driver of course).
[02:08] <Cypher21> who made ubot3 :3
[02:08] <Networkgamer> yeah i followed this:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:08] <Drk_Guy> G'night MenZa
[02:09] <Networkgamer> but whenever i do hcitool scan i get a connection time out error
[02:09] <mneptok> Cypher21: Bob Henderson
[02:09] <Pelo> zendo,  check in the package manager  look for the package needed and make sure you instalal the one with the -dev extension
[02:09] <MenZa> Cypher21: Seveas manages it.
[02:09] <Cypher21> ok cool
[02:09] <Drk_Guy> rosensturm: Are they compiled correctly?
[02:09] <gmachine_24> MenZa: Thanks. sleep well
[02:09] <mneptok> MenZa: not ubot3 ;)
[02:09] <MenZa> Meh, I thought it was a typo. :(
[02:09] <t0nedef>  meh, gotta jam, see everyone later
[02:09] <Pelo> zendo,  also this is a gnome channel, mostly,  try asking in #kubuntu for kde related stuff , they know better and they are actualy running it
[02:09] <orudie> can anyone help me in alsa mixer i have to mute something called the IEC958 Capture manager , please anyone i have no sound
[02:09] <shwang> my keyring doesn't remember wpa setting... and I'm stuck..
[02:10] <rosensturm> Drk_Guy, I get data from js0 so I guess so.
[02:10] <sh3l1> is there any way to sudo nautilus so that i can drag/drop?
[02:10] <shwang> does anyone knows how to make "keyring" remember "wpa-setting" ???
[02:10] <jrib> sh3l1: use ~/.gimp-2.0/brushes     ~ means /home/USERNAME
[02:10] <Drk_Guy> Compile them again and RECHECK stuff two times
[02:10] <nephish> sh3l1_: yep, from a terminal sudo nautilus
[02:10] <Pelo> orudie, dbl click on the sound icon in the top pannel,  see in the menus for extended controls see if you can do what you need with those
[02:10] <Junecy> How do I turn my wireless car don?
[02:10] <Junecy> card on*
[02:11] <sh3l1> oh thanks. all
[02:11] <Networkgamer> junecy:do you know what device it is?
[02:11] <sh3l1> i got it now
[02:11] <Junecy> i ran iwconfig and it says that my card is turned off
[02:11] <Pelo> !wifi | Junecy
[02:11] <ubot3> Junecy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:11] <Junecy> Kinda
[02:11] <Networkgamer> junecy:what device is it?
[02:11] <Junecy> it's a braodcom 4318 wireless card
[02:11] <Junecy> 41e4:4318
[02:11] <Networkgamer> like /dev/wlan0 or /dev/wifi
[02:11] <gmachine_24> Junecy: broadcomm... the death of wireless
[02:11] <Junecy> no I dont
[02:11] <Networkgamer> hmm...
[02:11] <Junecy> I think eth1
[02:11] <Pelo> Junecy, look up your card model in the forum  maybe there is someting there
[02:11] <pulga> any idea about why ubuntu doesnt poweroff the hardware when I 'shutdown -h now'? (apmd y acpid estan activos)
[02:11] <Junecy> I looked on that list
[02:11] <gmachine_24> Junecy: Do you have a driver loaded for it?
[02:12] <Networkgamer> do iwconfig
[02:12] <gmachine_24> pulga: no.
[02:12] <Networkgamer> just plain iwconfig
[02:12] <Junecy> I don't know
[02:12] <Junecy> I've been given many links to many different manuals and none have worked
[02:12] <Junecy> I did
[02:12] <Networkgamer> what devices came up?
[02:12] <Junecy> Let me post the results on pastebin
[02:12] <Networkgamer> ok
[02:12] <Junecy> lo, eth0 and eth1
[02:13] <mneptok> Junecy: are you using fwcutter or ndiswrapper?
[02:13] <gmachine_24> Junecy: have you done sudo lshw?
[02:13] <Networkgamer> do sudo ifdown eth0 \ sudo ifdown eth1
[02:13] <Networkgamer> |*
[02:13] <Junecy> ndiswrapper
[02:13] <Networkgamer> sudo ifdown eth0 | sudo ifdown eth1
[02:13] <Junecy> gmachine_24 no
[02:13] <mneptok> Junecy: is that chipset suppoerted by fwcutter?
[02:13] <mneptok> -e
[02:13] <firebird619> Could someone help me? I am trying to get my digital speakers to work from both front and rear speakers. I know that front is hw:0,0 and rear is hw:0,1 however, I don't know what I have to put in the .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf to get sound from both at the same time.
[02:14] <Junecy> I've never heard of fwcutter
[02:14] <gmachine_24> Junecy: try it and see if your card is there and if a driver is mentioned
[02:14] <Junecy> http://pastebin.com/m6a8a82d6
[02:14] <mneptok> Junecy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[02:15] <Networkgamer> junecy:do sudo ifdown eth1 | sudo ifup eth1
[02:15] <mneptok> Junecy: you should use ndiswrapper only if fwcutter doesn't work for your device.
[02:15] <fromotion> can anyone tell me how to fix the font encoding to display correctly in bitchx?
[02:15] <Junecy> brb
[02:16] <mneptok> BitchX? people still use that? ;)
[02:16] <Pelo> fromotion,  the ppl in #bitchx maybe ?
[02:16] <fromotion> it's not really a bitchx issue though
[02:16] <fromotion> hence why i'm asking here instead
[02:16] <Junecy> my wireless card is eth1
[02:16] <mneptok> fromotion: yes it is. other CLI apps understand UTF8. BX doesn't.
[02:16] <Networkgamer> junecy:do sudo ifdown eth1
[02:16] <iratik> How can i get sftp to open a connection on a port other than 22? I refuse to leave my server port 22 open ..... !? ??????
[02:16] <fromotion> okay
[02:16] <shwang> can anyone tell me how to keyring remember wpa-setting???
[02:17] <gmachine_24> Junecy: wicd.sourceforge.net is a tool I use
[02:17] <w30> pulga, there is something funky with Ubuntu; my machine won't reboot. It just shuts down the OS and hangs. It does shut down ok though
[02:17] <Cypher22> I need help to get my wireless to work on my ubuntu
[02:17] <Junecy> interface eth1 not configured
[02:17] <orudie> Pelo, is there a way i could test the sound in ubuntu? without playing the mpe?
[02:17] <Pelo> fromotion,  just a thought , but since they are bitchx users they might have encountered the problem and know how to solve it  even if it is not caused by bitchx
[02:17] <Networkgamer> now ifup eth1
[02:17] <orudie> Pelo, mp3
[02:17] <orudie> Pelo, like internal sound check?
[02:17] <Junecy> ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[02:17] <Cypher22> i have a 2wire wireless usb adpater and 2wire does not offer drivers for linux and i do not know how to get it to work on linux
[02:17] <Networkgamer> cypher:did it come with a cd?
[02:18] <Pelo> orudie, menu > system > prefs > hardware info,  tehre is a test button at the bottom of the dialog box
[02:18] <Cypher22> yea
[02:18] <Networkgamer> i can guide you through ndiswrapper if you want
[02:18] <Nomad7> i'm having some trouble with Network Manager; it isn't using the only available active network connection unless i tell it to - so i have to remind it every time it boots up
[02:18] <Cypher22> ok
[02:18] <w30> pulga, it's one of them stupid funky hp machines without an off swith. Sure glad they don't build cars that way.
[02:18] <fromotion> hrm
[02:18] <shwang> can anyone tell me how to make keyring remember wpa-setting ...please???
[02:18] <gmachine_24> Ok gang: I am off. Thank you so much for your help. Sleep well and peace out.
[02:18] <Networkgamer> so first google ndiswrapper and download it
[02:18] <Junecy> aparently I haven't gotten the card configured?
[02:18] <Networkgamer> google like ndiswrapper ubuntu
[02:18] <Cypher22> Ok but do i need internet on my ubuntu for it to work
[02:18] <Riyonuk> Is it wise to go back to previous version of ubuntu so I can actually use the internet?
[02:19] <Junecy> I have ndiswrapper installed
[02:19] <Networkgamer> or the debian .deb is fine
[02:19] <Junecy> version 1.9
[02:19] <Networkgamer> im guiding cypher through installing ndiswrapper
[02:19] <Junecy> Ah
[02:19] <Cypher22> ok let me boot to the windows site AND download it form there
[02:19] <Junecy> my bad
[02:19] <Pelo> shwang,  you are not being ignored,  noone currently in can answer your question apparently,  try looking for an answer in the forum and ask your question again here periodicaly
[02:19] <Cypher22> my windows haves the inetnet :P
[02:19] <Networkgamer> ok
[02:19] <CyberWorld> anyone know ho to change your monitor in a installed ubuntu 7.04 system?
[02:19] <CyberWorld> in settings...
[02:19] <CyberWorld> got me a lcd
[02:20] <Drk_Guy> CyberWorld: Are you trying to change X stuff?
[02:20] <w30> does anyone have a help place me and pulga can get apm help?
[02:20] <CyberWorld> my resolution
[02:20] <Drk_Guy> Ok
[02:20] <CyberWorld> but yeah X stuff
[02:20] <Grungebunny> system/preferences/screen resolution?
[02:20] <Grungebunny> just a guess
[02:20] <Networkgamer> anyone familiar with hcitool?
[02:21] <CyberWorld> nope old values available
[02:21] <Drk_Guy> I think it is "sudo dpkg -reconfigure xorg xorgconf"
[02:21] <Riyonuk> ?
[02:21] <eugman|winner> Everyone install and play bombardier from the terminal. It's fun.
[02:21] <Drk_Guy> But i don't remember that clearly
[02:21] <Riyonuk> I would if I had internet -_-
[02:21] <Drk_Guy> That cmd starts the X config wiz
[02:21] <mneptok> CyberWorld: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:21] <Networkgamer> anywhere i can go for help with hcitool?
[02:22] <Drk_Guy> mneptok: xerver?
[02:22] <Cypher22> Networkgamer: Can i download the .deb files or do i need the source one?
[02:22] <Drk_Guy> It's out of place
[02:22] <Networkgamer> .deb is fine
[02:22] <Cypher22> ok
[02:22] <mneptok> Drk_Guy: no, it's not
[02:22] <mneptok> Drk_Guy: that is the correct command
[02:22] <Networkgamer> ubuntu is more like debian after all
[02:22] <Drk_Guy> It's xorg xorgconf
[02:22] <Networkgamer> and i used the .deb
[02:22] <mneptok> Drk_Guy: no, it's not.
[02:22] <Cypher22> ok
[02:22] <Nomad7> mneptok is right
[02:22] <Nomad7> i'm having some trouble with Network Manager; it isn't using the only available active network connection unless i tell it to, is there some say i can tell it to activate the network automatically? or should i just remove network manager?
[02:23] <Drk_Guy> That worked for me in Feisty
[02:23] <shwang> Pelo : Thanks .. it's my very 1st time here..
[02:23] <shwang> I've been looking for the solution in the forum, and tried bunches of them.. but still in vain..
[02:23] <Junecy> !wifi
[02:23] <ubot3> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:23] <mneptok> Drk_Guy: it has always been the same command, trust me :)
[02:23] <Drk_Guy> Ok
[02:23] <Pelo> shwang,   www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:23] <mneptok> Drk_Guy: /whois mneptok   ;)
[02:23] <fromotion> so uh
[02:23] <Drk_Guy> But tell that to CyberWorld instead
[02:23] <fromotion> they say it isn't a bitchx issue
[02:23] <fromotion> any other suggestions?
[02:23] <Drk_Guy> Oh f***
[02:24] <Drk_Guy> You part of...
[02:24] <mneptok> fromotion: try irssi. if it displays correctly, it is a BX issue.
[02:24] <fromotion> okay
[02:24] <fromotion> well
[02:24] <fromotion> it's worked before
[02:24] <CyberWorld> k trying out
[02:24] <Drk_Guy> My respects you gr8t master
[02:24] <Cypher22> I downloaded the debs files needed to run ndis so do i go back to ubuntu?
[02:24] <mneptok> Drk_Guy: hah! hardly ...
[02:24] <shwang> thanks Pelo !!!
[02:24] <fromotion> worked fine in gnome, just doesn't work in xfce right now
[02:24] <mneptok> Drk_Guy: but i *do* know dpkg-reconfigure ;)
[02:24] <Networkgamer> cypher:yes
[02:24] <Cypher22> ok
[02:25] <Drk_Guy> debian package manager, please reconfigure the xorg stuff
[02:25] <Drk_Guy> LOL
[02:25] <novato_br> plz, what is the tool to recovered a file on fat 32 partition ?
[02:25] <novato_br> i'm on linux
[02:26] <e-Hernick> what do you mean by "recover a file"
[02:26] <CyberWorld> k I think I have to reboot
[02:26] <Drk_Guy> dpkg is for debian as rpm2cpio is for RedHAT
[02:26] <Grungebunny> hello im nub.. a program I found I want to run came in the form of .tar.gz where is the guide to install this type of file.. up till now ive been using add/remove.
[02:26] <e-Hernick> novato_br: do you want to access the FAT32 partition so you can read and change your files on that partition?
[02:26] <mneptok> Grungebunny: what app?
[02:26] <novato_br> e-Hernick,  undelete the file
[02:26] <Drk_Guy> CyberWorld: Ctrl+Alt+Bckspc
[02:26] <Cypher22> Newworkganer: i am installing the debs
[02:26] <Networkgamer> who can help me with hcitool?
[02:26] <Networkgamer> ok
[02:26] <Grungebunny> its called karumba
[02:26] <novato_br> nomin, e-Hernick , i want recovery my file
[02:27] <Drk_Guy> Or am i wrong with my rpm2cpio stuff, mneptok
[02:27] <Drk_Guy> =?
[02:27] <Pelo> Grungebunny, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[02:27] <mneptok> Grungebunny: SuperKaramba?
[02:27] <Grungebunny> mneptok yeah thats it
[02:27] <mneptok> Grungebunny: are you using KDE?
[02:27] <novato_br> what is the tool to recovery files deleted?
[02:27] <Cypher22> Newworkgamer:I installed it now what do i do :)
[02:27] <Junecy> do you ever jsut get frustrated with it all?
[02:27] <Grungebunny> mneptok I belive so.. isn't that what ubuntu uses?
[02:27] <e-Hernick> Grungebunny: it varies from app to app.. but the usual procedure is unpack, configure, compile, install.. this would look like   > tar jxvf app-1.0.tar.gz; cd app-1.0; ./configure --prefix=/opt/app; make; sudo make install
[02:27] <CyberWorld> yeah right Drk_Guy
[02:27] <CyberWorld> thx
[02:27] <Networkgamer> cypher:put in your cd
[02:28] <e-Hernick> of course, this won't work for all apps.
[02:28] <Cypher22> ok
[02:28] <CyberWorld> talking to friend real quick
[02:28] <mneptok> Grungebunny: no, Ubuntu uses GNOME. Kubuntu uses KDE.
[02:28] <Drk_Guy> 4Nothin'
[02:28] <Pelo> Junecy,  yes that is why we left windows
[02:28] <Grungebunny> ahhh
[02:28] <Networkgamer> and cd into it in a terminal
[02:28] <Grungebunny> okay then
[02:28] <Drk_Guy> I'm here to help and be helped
[02:28] <mneptok> Grungebunny: sudo apt-get install gdesklets
[02:28] <Junecy> Linux for me isn't much better
[02:28] <Junecy> The things that work in window sdoens't in linux and vice versa
[02:28] <Pelo> Drk_Guy,  what help do you need ?
[02:28] <Grungebunny> mneptok thanks for the help
[02:28] <Cypher22> ok i put in the cd
[02:28] <Networkgamer> cd into it
[02:28] <mneptok> Grungebunny: np. gdesklets is the "widget" app for GNOME
[02:28] <Drk_Guy> Grungebunny: Ubuntu can also use KDE, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskto
[02:28] <Networkgamer> in a terminal
[02:28] <Cypher22> ok
[02:29] <Cypher22> ok  did it
[02:29] <Drk_Guy> Pelo: It was an "expression"
[02:29] <Networkgamer> what folders are there?
[02:29] <Cypher22> There is a drivers folder and the installer :P
[02:29] <Networkgamer> cd into drivers
[02:29] <Cypher22> lol ok
[02:29] <LinuxFanBoy> hi everyone
[02:30] <Networkgamer> whats in there?
[02:30] <Drk_Guy> Ok
[02:30] <novato_br> wtf
[02:30] <Cypher22> ok i am in
[02:30] <Drk_Guy> Only 20% for Wormux to unpack and install
[02:30] <PMantis> 6.10 recognized my monitor Hans-G monitor properly, but 7.04 doesn't. Can I replace a file in my new install to fix?
[02:30] <Networkgamer> what folders are in there?
[02:30] <Cypher22> non
[02:30] <Cypher22> none
[02:30] <Cypher22> no folders
[02:30] <Networkgamer> any files?
[02:30] <Junecy> I think I blacklisted the native driver for my wireless card
[02:30] <Cypher22> there is lots of .sys files and 1 ini
[02:30] <Pelo> !enter Cypher22
[02:30] <ubot3> Factoid enter cypher22 not found
[02:30] <Junecy> how do I take it off the balcklist?
[02:30] <Networkgamer> ok
[02:30] <e-Hernick> PMantis: by "recognize your monitor" what do you mean? Does it not offer you all the resolution settings you want?
[02:30] <Drk_Guy> Cypher22: While cd'ed into a directory, type "ls ./" to get a list of it's folders
[02:31] <Cypher22> i did
[02:31] <Drk_Guy> Just a lil' suggestion
[02:31] <Networkgamer> do ndiswrapper
[02:31] <PMantis> e-Hernick: Exactly... it comes up as 640x480 in 7.10
[02:31] <Drk_Guy> Ndiswrapper rocks
[02:31] <Cypher22> type in ndiswrapper?
[02:31] <Networkgamer> and hit enter
[02:31] <Cypher22> ok
[02:31] <e-Hernick> PMantis: what's your video card? are you using restricted video drivers?
[02:31] <Cypher22> ok i hit enter
[02:31] <Networkgamer> whats the arguement for installing a file?
[02:31] <Drk_Guy> Ndiswrapper installs WINDOWS drivers into Linux Cypher22
[02:31] <Networkgamer> its something like -i or -l
[02:31] <Cypher22> its i
[02:31] <Networkgamer> ok
[02:32] <Drk_Guy> -i for INF file drivers Networkgamer
[02:32] <Networkgamer> do you remember the filename of the .ini?
[02:32] <Cypher22> -l will list drivers
[02:32] <Cypher22> yea
[02:32] <n2diy> how can I use an irc server that isn't on my connect list, with xchat-gnome?
[02:32] <Drk_Guy> Yep Cypher22
[02:32] <Networkgamer> do ndiswrapper -i (ini file)
[02:32] <PMantis> e-Hernick: Nothing restricted. LSPCI shows: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[02:32] <Drk_Guy> n2diy: /server <irc-server>
[02:32] <Drk_Guy> works for most IRC clients
[02:32] <Cypher22> ok did it
[02:32] <e-Hernick> PMantis: Do you know how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:32] <Networkgamer> now do ndiswrapper again
[02:33] <Cypher22> k
[02:33] <n2diy> Drk_Guy: I'll give it a try, thanks.
[02:33] <Networkgamer> somewhere at the bottom is a list of 4 commands
[02:33] <Drk_Guy> 4Nothin'
[02:33] <Cypher22> did it
[02:33] <Networkgamer> is there a list of around 4 commands at the bottom?
[02:33] <Drk_Guy> e-Hernick: Repairing or just editing=
[02:33] <Drk_Guy> =?
[02:33] <Cypher22> yea
[02:33] <PMantis> e-Hernick: I can feel my way around, but I don't memorize syntax. :) I'm sure I can also find a copy of the file from my old install (I love BackupPC)
[02:33] <Networkgamer> what are they.you can pm them to me if their too long
[02:34] <Cypher22> ok i will type the last 4 commands
[02:34] <Drk_Guy> Networkgamer: Better use !paste so we can all help
[02:34] <e-Hernick> PMantis: good, then you can find the Section "Monitor"... check if there are HorizSync and VertRefresh parameters in there
[02:34] <Drk_Guy> !paste > Networkgamer
[02:34] <e-Hernick> Hey, does anybody know of a working UPNP IGD client, that would let me add port redirections on an UPNP-compatible router (a WRT54G to be specific). I've tried miniupnp / upnpc, and I can list existing redirs, but I get an error when trying to add one.
[02:35] <Cypher22> -m         write conf for modprobe
[02:35] <Networkgamer> yeah i know what a pastebin is
[02:35] <Networkgamer> do that one
[02:35] <LindoPibe> hello babys
[02:35] <e-Hernick> GAIM is able to add redirs for itself just fine on that very computer, so I know UPNP IGD is working correctly on my router.
[02:35] <Cypher22> -ma wire module alias conf for all drfivers
[02:35] <Cypher22> ok
[02:35] <Cypher22> how do i use it?
[02:36] <Cypher22> the pastebin
[02:36] <Networkgamer> ok this is the either long or short part,depending on your system
[02:36] <Networkgamer> dfo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:36] <Networkgamer> do*
[02:36] <Cypher22> ok
[02:36] <Networkgamer> did it work?
[02:36] <Networkgamer> or no file/directory?
[02:36] <Junecy> network gamer I've just done that step myself about 2 minutes ago and I still have nothing
[02:36] <PMantis> e-Hernick: monitor has 2 lines... one looks like a label, and the other turns on DPMS. No refresh options. (BTW, this is a laptop, so external monitor is diff from LCD)
[02:36] <Cypher22> i type it in
[02:36] <Networkgamer> and hit enter
[02:37] <Cypher22> my Pc is beeping O_o
[02:37] <jrib> !away > Akifemre[afk]  (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:37] <e-Hernick> PMantis: do you have two Section "Monitor" or a single one
[02:37] <Cypher22> i think the command is still running
[02:37] <Networkgamer> ok
[02:37] <Cypher22> My wireless turned on
[02:37] <cescalante> installed a new gfx card on an install of ubunutu, it has now disabled my xserver
[02:37] <Networkgamer> as long as it doesnt give a missing file error
[02:37] <Drk_Guy> PMantis: why don't you just run the Xorg wiz?
[02:37] <cescalante> hwo do I configure my xserver so I can get my gui back?
[02:37] <Junecy> Networkgamer: I did the same steps and nothing
[02:37] <e-Hernick> Drk_Guy: yeah, how does he do that?
[02:38] <Cypher22> My wireless cannot scan for networks but i know my wireless network name :P
[02:38] <Drk_Guy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:38] <DIL> i am trying to get Zoneminder to run is there a command to make it run from terminal?
[02:38] <Drk_Guy> In SAFE MODE
[02:38] <e-Hernick> Drk_Guy: and what's the command cescalante can do to have his xorg.conf regenerated ? is it the same command?
[02:38] <n2diy> Drk_Guy: It worked, but I guess it dumped me off freenode.net, can't connect to two irc servers at the same time?
[02:38] <Networkgamer> junecy:you did modprobe ndiswrapper and didnt get ANY output at all?
[02:38] <fromo> same problem in irssi
[02:38] <avis> cescalante, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg assmung you know what you are doing
[02:38] <fromo> heh
[02:38] <Junecy> That's correct
[02:38] <Drk_Guy> yEP
[02:38] <Networkgamer> thats good
[02:38] <e-Hernick> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the most awful UI I've seen in a long time though
[02:38] <Cypher22> what do i do now? its on
[02:38] <Drk_Guy> It regenarates the whole Xorg.conf file e-Hernick
[02:38] <Junecy> after I ran modprobe ndiswrapper I ram lsmod to double check and it still isn't in use\
[02:38] <Networkgamer> do iwconfig
[02:38] <e-Hernick> Drk_Guy: but isn't there a command to try an automatic reconfigure?
[02:39] <Networkgamer> junecy:restart
[02:39] <Drk_Guy> e-Hernick: You want eye-candy or performance?
[02:39] <Junecy> ok
[02:39] <e-Hernick> Drk_Guy: for example, when ubuntu is installed, it automagically creates a xorg.conf
[02:39] <Cypher22> the command looks like its not done or something becuase i can't tpye anything it in yet
[02:39] <e-Hernick> Drk_Guy: do you know what that command is?
[02:39] <Networkgamer> cypher:do lspci and iwconfig
[02:39] <Drk_Guy> I haven't tried the mneptok one
[02:39] <Nomad7> Do I need Network Manager at all if my computer is going to be perpetually plugged into the same network all the time?
[02:39] <Cypher22> ok
[02:39] <Networkgamer> cypher:lspci | iwconfig
[02:39] <Drk_Guy> But /whois him and find-out who he is really....
[02:39] <n2diy> I may get a chance to deploy Ubuntu in a public library, how can I create a guest account without sudo privledges?
[02:40] <Drk_Guy> My method is "sudo dpkg -reconfigure xorg xorg.conf
[02:40] <spettit> anybody feel like assisting me with getting a graphics card installed
[02:40] <Networkgamer> n2diy:remove him from the sudoers file
[02:40] <Cypher22> i type it in
[02:40] <Networkgamer> ok
[02:40] <Drk_Guy> Yeah!
[02:40] <DIL> i am trying to get Zoneminder to run is there a command to make it run from terminal?
[02:40] <Drk_Guy> wormux is up!
[02:40] <Cypher22> i go eth0 and ki
[02:40] <fromotion> nmeptok: any other suggestions?
[02:40] <Cypher22> lo*
[02:40] <Nomad7> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:40] <Nomad7> that should work
[02:40] <Cypher22> its lo not ki
[02:40] <Networkgamer> ok,try restarting
[02:40] <Cypher22> ok
[02:40] <n2diy> Networkgamer: Ok, that is simple enough, thanks.
[02:40] <orudie> Pelo, ARE YOU THERE?
[02:41] <spettit> i am having some issues with a nVidia 7600 GT 256 MB PCIe 16x
[02:41] <Networkgamer> n2diy:i dont know exactly what to do but thats what you do
[02:41] <orudie> does anyone know how to change from [playback]  to [capture]  view in alsamixer?
[02:41] <Junecy> okay now try running iwconfig again?
[02:41] <Cypher22> ubuntu is loading
[02:41] <n2diy> Networkgamer: Ok, I'll experiment.
[02:41] <Networkgamer> whatever names are in the sudoers file get root privelages by typing sudo or su
[02:41] <Networkgamer> junecy:yes
[02:41] <Junecy> I got the same readout as earlier
[02:42] <Networkgamer> hmm...
[02:42] <Junecy> Power management:off
[02:42] <Networkgamer> i believe this is where i got stuck...
[02:42] <Networkgamer> do ndiswrapper -l
[02:42] <Junecy> I blacklisted soemthing earlier as one of the tutorials told me to
[02:42] <cescalante> thanks!
[02:42] <Cypher22> ok its done loading
[02:42] <Junecy> is there a way to edit the blacklist to take off the entwork card?
[02:42] <spettit> i tried to install fiesty fawn but couldn't unless i installed in text mode
[02:42] <orudie> i have to mute something called IEC 958 Capture, however i am having difficulty finding it, found IEC 958 playback, but not IEC 958 Capture, anyone please be kind and help me if you know how to, i have been stuck on this for hours, i dont have sound in ubuntu because of this
[02:42] <monteslu> is flashplugin-nonfree still the name of the adobe flash player?
[02:42] <Networkgamer> yes,thats the plash player
[02:43] <Networkgamer> flash*
[02:43] <Cypher22> what do i do not ubuntu is loaded
[02:43] <Cypher22> is loaded*
[02:43] <Networkgamer> in terminal do ndiswrapper -l
[02:43] <Cypher22> ok
[02:43] <Networkgamer> did it say it detected the hardware and the driver is loaded
[02:43] <Cypher22> driver installed
[02:43] <monteslu> Networkgamer, which repo is it in? I don't see it in synaptic
[02:44] <PManti1> e-Hernick: I restarted gdm with only my external monitor enabled... all is good after my edits. Thanks for pointing me there!
[02:44] <Junecy> I got the same
[02:44] <Networkgamer> monteslu:do it in a terminal
[02:44] <monteslu> tried still not found
[02:44] <Cypher22> my wireless is not backon but it says its installed
[02:44] <keen> does anyone know a good program to create a video dvd from an avi file?
[02:44] <PManti1> e-Hernick: For some reason, I assumed it was more difficult. heh
[02:44] <monteslu> but apt-get update is dying
[02:44] <Networkgamer> ok...
[02:44] <monteslu> maybe i don't have a good list
[02:44] <Junecy> networkgamer: same here
[02:44] <monteslu> its erroring about a bad zip file its downloading
[02:44] <Networkgamer> cypher and junecy:you both are at the same point atm
[02:44] <monteslu> edubuntu, BTW
[02:45] <Junecy> right
[02:45] <mayo> Hello
[02:45] <Networkgamer> let me think...
[02:45] <Junecy> ifdown and ifup?
[02:45] <Networkgamer> do ndiswrapper again and read out those last 4 commands again
[02:45] <mayo> Can you install Art Manager in synaptic in ubuntu?
[02:45] <Cypher22> ok
[02:45] <Networkgamer> put them in a pastebin
[02:46] <Junecy> which command?
[02:46] <Cypher22> -v      report version info
[02:46] <monteslu> is anyone else currently getting errors from apt-get update?
[02:46] <keen> soooo nobody does....
[02:46] <mayo> or app that lets you download wallpapers from a app launcher like in Suse that connects to kde-look.org?
[02:46] <Networkgamer> just ndiswrapper
[02:46] <Cypher22> -i        write module install conf for all drivers
[02:46] <Cypher22> -mi*
[02:46] <Junecy> it says I need to give it an option
[02:46] <Networkgamer> i know
[02:46] <Networkgamer> i jsut want the last 4 commands
[02:47] <Cypher22> -i        write module install conf for all drivers
[02:47] <Cypher22> -mi        write module install conf for all drivers
[02:47] <Cypher22> there
[02:47] <Junecy> Well this is wherre I get stuck
[02:48] <Junecy> I don't know what last four commands you wnat or how to get them.
[02:48] <Junecy> Please specify.
[02:48] <Networkgamer> im thinking...
[02:48] <sixtyeight> Is there a way to disable "Alt+LeftClick=Drag Window"? I just reinstalled Feisty and the Keyboard "Alt/Win Behavior" options are not the same as I had them last week, and there is nothing there to disable it.
[02:49] <Networkgamer> junecy and cypher: ndiswrapper -m | modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:49] <Junecy> I got this when I did ndiswrapper -v (utils Error: no version specified!
[02:49] <Junecy> )
[02:49] <Networkgamer> oooooooooooh
[02:49] <Junecy> did it no read out
[02:49] <Cypher22> u need sudo
[02:50] <Networkgamer> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[02:50] <demerzel^> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
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[02:50] <Cometstyles> !op
[02:50] <ubot3> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[02:50] <ST47> Oh my god
[02:50] <Cypher22> what?
[02:50] <Cypher22> SPAM?
[02:50] <astro76> !ops
[02:50] <Jeff_Mitchell> hi all, does anyone know if ubuntu 6.06 comes with ssh-server software by default, or do i need to use apt-get to install it? i installed it in server mode.
[02:51] <c1|freaky> ouch
[02:52] <Cypher22> WE need op in here fast!
[02:52] <Liquinn> ?
[02:52] <rob> Cypher22, I'm on it
[02:52] <poningru> whatsup
[02:52] <Cypher22> Someone is IRC flooding the room
[02:52] <rob> Cypher22, it has stopped
[02:52] <Liquinn> hi rob
[02:52] <Cypher22> i am still closing on the error msgs
[02:52] <Networkgamer> cypher:get my message?
[02:52] <rob> hi Liquinn
[02:52] <OmnipotentEntity> Does anyone remember the program that checks your md5sums against the package to make sure you haven't suffered file corruption?
[02:52] <Cypher22> yea
[02:52] <Networkgamer> ok
[02:53] <Cypher22> i have it installed aready
[02:53] <Networkgamer> did it finish?
[02:53] <poningru> OmnipotentEntity: md5sum ?
[02:53] <Liquinn> ok
[02:53] <poningru> !info md5sum
[02:53] <ubot3> Package md5sum does not exist in edgy
[02:53] <EJ> [ rob] : do you have the spammers info ?
[02:53] <Cypher22> i already installed it newwrokgamer
[02:53] <Networkgamer> now sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[02:53] <tank71> wasnt a big flood....
[02:53] <rob> EJ, yes
[02:53] <OmnipotentEntity> poningru, It's a program the automates that process.
[02:53] <EJ> i hae it if you need it
[02:53] <EJ> ok
[02:53] <poningru> oh?
[02:53] <Cypher22> Newworkgamer i have that installed too
[02:53] <Networkgamer> ok
[02:53] <poningru> OmnipotentEntity: is it for like an iso?
[02:54] <poningru> isomd5sum
[02:54] <OmnipotentEntity> No it's for your packages.
[02:54] <DIL> i am trying to get Zoneminder to run is there a command to make it run from terminal?
[02:54] <Networkgamer> ndiswrapper -m | modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:54] <Junecy> it says all kinds of error messages
[02:54] <fromotion> does anyone else have any suggestion for fixing the font encoding to display correctly in BitchX?
[02:54] <Cypher22> Let me get the ip pof the spammer after i get my wireless to work
[02:54] <poningru> OmnipotentEntity: thats built into apt
[02:54] <Junecy> E: Package ndiswrapper-utils has no installation candidate
[02:54] <fromotion> oh and irssi also
[02:54] <Lifeisfunny> I tried the tweak but I can't get fastwrites going on my computer, I think my nvidia card is scanked.
[02:54] <poningru> Junecy: what wifi chipset do you have?
[02:54] <corentin> Hi all
[02:54] <Junecy> bcm4318
[02:54] <Lifeisfunny> or is it skanked?
[02:54] <OmnipotentEntity> After it's already installed and has sat for a while.  It's to test for file corruption.
[02:55] <Networkgamer> poningru:im guiding him through ndiswrapper
[02:55] <poningru> Junecy: why do you need ndiswrapper?
[02:55] <spettit> anybody know know how to install nvidia graphics drivers in fiesty fawn
[02:55] <poningru> but why?
[02:55] <spettit> or where do i need to go to find out
[02:55] <Junecy> because the native driver wasn't working
[02:55] <CyberWorld> thx Drk_Guy
[02:55] <Networkgamer> its easy
[02:55] <CyberWorld> he still here
[02:55] <poningru> Junecy: just do apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:55] <Junecy> will that superceed the ndiswrapper crap that's taken up 3 hours of my time tonight?
[02:55] <Lifeisfunny> spettit, go to nvidia.com for newest drivers
[02:55] <nephish> spettit_: the way i did it was clicked enable desktop effects in preferences
[02:55] <poningru> Junecy: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:55] <poningru> Junecy: yes
[02:56] <poningru> Junecy: just install that and restart
[02:56] <nephish> spettit, it prompted me to download the nvidia-glx package
[02:56] <CyberWorld> .seen
[02:56] <CyberWorld> seen
[02:56] <Networkgamer> junecy:ndiswrapper took me 3 days to figure out
[02:56] <CyberWorld> !seen
[02:56] <ubot3> Factoid seen not found
[02:56] <Junecy> couldn't find package bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:56] <Networkgamer> 3 hours is nothing
[02:56] <pawan> hi
[02:56] <spettit> nepfish/Lifeisfunny: i need to be able to do it from command prompt because i can't get x to load
[02:56] <Junecy> I don't have 3 days Networkgamer
[02:56] <Networkgamer> junecy:apt-cache pkgnames fwcutter
[02:56] <Junecy> I have class
[02:57] <DIL> i am a newb and the tutorials at the unbutu site were excellent the only newb thing was that i did not enable repositiries
[02:57] <Cypher22> i tpye in the commands
[02:57] <EJ> took me 10 minutes for ndiswrapper, it pretty self explanitory
[02:57] <pawan> gdm could not write to ur authorization file error
[02:57] <Cypher22> my wireless still didn't turn on
[02:57] <poningru> Junecy: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:57] <Networkgamer> EJ:i had a completely new system
[02:57] <DIL> for the 4318
[02:57] <Junecy> 7.0.4
[02:57] <ConstyXIV> if i've got a text file, and i'm looking for 8-letter words with the pattern ??f?o?o?, what would the grep syntax be?
[02:57] <poningru> do you have multiverse on?
[02:57] <needsleep> how can I create a copy of stage1 under windows if I were to create the other partitions requeried by ubuntu manually and boot that copy using boot.ini ?
[02:57] <Junecy> I dunno
[02:57] <EJ> well mine isnt new but its a new Ubuntu install
[02:57] <nephish> spettit, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:57] <poningru> Junecy: go to system->admin->synaptic package manager
[02:57] <Cypher22> networkgamer: i did the commands but my usb wireless is still not back on
[02:57] <EJ> rtl8185 wlan card
[02:57] <Networkgamer> EJ:it was the first think i ever installed on my laptop
[02:58] <Junecy> ok
[02:58] <EJ> ahhh cool
[02:58] <pawan> unable to login
[02:58] <Networkgamer> cypher:now do lspci
[02:58] <Cypher22> ok
[02:58] <poningru> Junecy: go to repositories
[02:58] <Lifeisfunny> I think if you can't get X to load it's back to the drawing board with:    sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:58] <Cypher22> ok did it
[02:58] <Cypher22> now what i do :)
[02:58] <Junecy> ok
[02:58] <poningru> Junecy: its under one of the menu items
[02:58] <Networkgamer> put the output in a pastebin
[02:59] <EJ> [Cypher22] : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:59] <Cypher22> Its will take me hours O_o
[02:59] <spettit> nephish: after sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx is there anything else that is needd to be done
[02:59] <rhino0nT> anyone here knows of a channel for svn support in this servers?
[02:59] <pawan> hello
[02:59] <poningru> Junecy: did you find it?
[02:59] <Cypher22> yet me find the wireless driver in it then tpye that in
[02:59] <Junecy> download from the internet: software restricted by CopyRight or legal issues (multiverse) is checked
[02:59] <Lifeisfunny> hello pawan
[02:59] <Networkgamer> cyoher:just the last chunk is fine
[02:59] <poningru> Junecy: go do a reload
[02:59] <Networkgamer> cypher*
[02:59] <Junecy> got it
[03:00] <DIL> ZoneMinder anyone?
[03:00] <nephish> spettit, open /etc/x11/xorg.conf and change the driver  'nv' to driver 'nvidia' in your device section save and restart x
[03:00] <Junecy> search for fwcutter?
[03:00] <Cypher22> ok
[03:00] <pawan> gdm could not write to ur authorization file error
[03:00] <nephish> spettit, been in linux long?
[03:00] <sparr> localepurge just deleted over 100MB worth of locale data that i didn't want...  thats both amazing and disturbing.  does ubuntu have any system to legitimately manage locale data?  its silly to waste that much disk space on files that I will never use.
[03:00] <Cypher22> but that last line is details about my WIRED network card
[03:00] <Networkgamer> pawan:did you do it with the command sudo?
[03:00] <Cypher22> my wireless is usb
[03:00] <poningru> Junecy: yeah
[03:00] <Networkgamer> ok
[03:00] <ConstyXIV> anyone know grep in here?
[03:00] <poningru> Junecy: or bcm
[03:00] <spettit> just learning
[03:00] <Networkgamer> do lsusb
[03:00] <pawan> unable to login
[03:01] <Cypher22> ok
[03:01] <Junecy> it's fetching and extracting firmware
[03:01] <Networkgamer> anything about your wireless card?
[03:01] <Cypher22> nope
[03:01] <Junecy> there was an error
[03:01] <monteslu> anyone having trouble with apt-get update right now?
[03:01] <nephish> spettit, are you in a graphical shell or terminal only ?
[03:01] <Cypher22> yet try to turn it on
[03:01] <poningru> Junecy: what was the error?
[03:01] <poningru> pastebin it if its too big
[03:01] <pawan> ur home directory could not be opened
[03:01] <Junecy> can we go private so I don't flood the room?
[03:01] <Junecy> ok
[03:01] <poningru> !pastebin | Junecy
[03:01] <ubot3> Junecy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:01] <Networkgamer> pawan:type su,then hit enter,then put your password
[03:02] <spettit> i'll be in the graphical and terminal
[03:02] <Junecy> I know pastebin
[03:02] <Junecy> :-P
[03:02] <poningru> sorry
[03:02] <poningru> :)
[03:02] <Junecy> E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error
[03:02] <Junecy> it's not that long
[03:02] <EJ> [Cypher22] : sudo nidswrapper -i "windriver.inf"
[03:02] <Cypher22> i got the drive running
[03:02] <pawan> but i  am not getting the terminal
[03:02] <Junecy> exity status 1
[03:02] <poningru> Junecy: hmm that is weird
[03:02] <nephish> spettit, cool you can use gedit to edit config files, from a terminal sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:02] <Cypher22> lsusb is not comming out with anything now
[03:03] <Junecy> I am thinking about reinstalling ubuntu and starting fresh
[03:03] <Networkgamer> hmm
[03:03] <Networkgamer> do iwconfig
[03:03] <spettit> i'm jotting this all down now
[03:03] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : then sudo ndiswrapper -l to see if it loaded the driver
[03:03] <Junecy> I think then I can install fwcutter
[03:03] <astro76> Junecy, I read about this problem today, I think the host is above the quota... you can get it here instead http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/feisty-cafuego/all/
[03:03] <poningru> Junecy: can you go do sudo aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter in a command line
[03:03] <spettit> right now i'm at work
[03:03] <flicken> My DVD drive will not mount any type of media
[03:03] <pawan> i get the login windows
[03:03] <poningru> Junecy: hmm follow what astro76 said
[03:03] <nephish> ah
[03:03] <pawan> when i try to login it says
[03:03] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:03] <spettit> i'm using my shell account and bitchx to get irc
[03:03] <pawan> gdm could not write to ur authorization file error
[03:03] <Junecy> okay brb
[03:04] <pawan> ur home directory could not be opened
[03:04] <linux_> ubuntu 7.1 will include KDE 4 ?
[03:04] <spettit> nephish
[03:04] <Networkgamer> EJ:he's past that
[03:04] <EJ> [ Networkgamer] : oh ok
[03:04] <Networkgamer> he already modprobed it
[03:04] <needsleep> can I manually edit stage1 somehow under windows ? or is there a way (let's say to emulate what I need with qemu) and retrieve the file from there ?
[03:04] <Cypher22> if i do a command that shows anyhting about my usb driver it will freeze
[03:04] <Networkgamer> but its still not in his system
[03:04] <orudie> does anyone know how to view the capture devices in alsamixer ?
[03:04] <nigro> hi
[03:04] <EJ> [ Networkgamer] : and it isnt listing it ?
[03:04] <Junecy> uhm...
[03:04] <EJ> hmmmmm
[03:04] <Networkgamer> nope
[03:04] <JeevesMoss> what's better and easier to configure virtual hosts in for a fairly new person to Ubunut?  Postfix or Sendmail?  I need both pop3 and smtp
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> pawan: TIme to restore from that backup you made..
[03:04] <Junecy> do I add these as repositories?
[03:05] <poningru> Junecy: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/feisty-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[03:05] <spettit> nephish, i have ubuntu installed fine on my laptop but when installing it on my new desktop i ran into some problems.  it wouldn't install in graphical mode
[03:05] <poningru> no just install that
[03:05] <scam> how do you tell if you got 3d support with your video card?
[03:05] <poningru> and that is packaged by our very own cafuego
[03:05] <JeevesMoss> jack_sparrow:  hey man, how's your night going?
[03:05] <spettit> nephish, i installed in text mode but then it wouldn't start x
[03:05] <Junecy> I'll give this a shot
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey JeevesMoss,  Just waiting to head back to the hospital.
[03:05] <pawan> how
[03:05] <skip> gn8
[03:06] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : have you tried a different windows driver?
[03:06] <spettit> nephish, next started in safe mode and its up at the cli
[03:06] <JeevesMoss> jack_sparrow:  are you ok?  anything serious?
[03:06] <Cypher22> I only have 1 driver ej
[03:06] <Networkgamer> cypher:do ndiswrapper -l again
[03:06] <Cypher22> i restart my pc becuase it frooze then i will do it
[03:06] <Networkgamer> make sure it says the hardware is present
[03:06] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : win9x or win2k/xp ?
[03:06] <Cypher22> its xp
[03:06] <Junecy> it said installed
[03:07] <ZombieWerewolf> attention: What driver package/software package do I need to enable support for my gamepads?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: I am fine thanks...  friend isnt doing well, probably wont make it to the weekend.. Thanks for the kind thoughts.. no more off topic.. If you need you can always go to Mepis or Voyager
[03:07] <Ominous> how can i get a 5 button mouse working?
[03:07] <Junecy> NOw what?
[03:07] <agent47a> can someone comment on the upgrade path for ubuntu?  i'm about 2-months new and i just looked into upgrade CentOS 4 to 5.  CentOS upgrade path is very hit or miss.  How has upgrading Ubuntu been like?  Dapper to Feisty?  I just want to know what to expect when going from 7.04 to 7.10.
[03:07] <astro76> !mouse | Ominous
[03:07] <ubot3> Ominous: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:07] <pawan> hello
[03:07] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : are you using the driver from the nic website or from the provided cd ?
[03:07] <ZombieWerewolf> !gamepad | me
[03:07] <ubot3> Factoid gamepad not found
[03:07] <Networkgamer> he used the one from the cd
[03:07] <JeevesMoss> jack_sparrow:  mepis or voyager?  I'm hosting 3 virtual sites, and I need a system that's SIMPLE to configure/setup
[03:07] <Cypher22> for the site that made by hardware
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> agent47a: Be sure to make a backup...
[03:08] <pawan> gdm could not write to ur authorization file error
[03:08] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : did you get a 4stacks error installing ndiswrapper ?
[03:08] <Cypher22> nope
[03:08] <poningru> Junecy: reboot
[03:08] <Cypher22> no errors
[03:08] <Junecy> okay brb
[03:08] <Cypher22> ubuntu frooze on boot up
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: Mepis is dead...  Voyager is just a empty room for friends....
[03:08] <Networkgamer> EJ:you think you got cypher handled
[03:08] <Cypher22> my wireless turned on then the boot loader just stop but it sounds like it loading
[03:09] <JeevesMoss> Jack_sparrow:  ahhh, ok.  well, I would like your opinion on the mail server thing.
[03:09] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : and the nic work in a winbox ?
[03:09] <Lifeisfunny> agent47a, I don't think you can go from 6.06 to 7.04 without 6.10
[03:09] <EJ> [ Networkgamer] : yeah i can help him from here
[03:09] <Networkgamer> ok
[03:09] <Networkgamer> thanks
[03:09] <Cypher22> ok now i see loads of commands
[03:09] <EJ> [ Networkgamer] : anytime
[03:09] <Cypher22> its loading very slowy but i think its working
[03:10] <taxman> Cypher22: my laptop does that. Goes blank for a while during boot, then works just fine
[03:10] <pawan> gdm could not write to ur authorization file error
[03:10] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : you've just rebooted ?
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: I dont have an opinion right now.. not all together with it...  You want to setup a simple mail server ... I can make myself a note and chat tomorrow or soon..
[03:10] <pawan> ur home directory could not be opened
[03:10] <taxman> I think the splashscreen just doesn't work for me
[03:10] <Cypher22> yea
[03:10] <Networkgamer> pawan:are you in livecd?
[03:10] <pawan> no
[03:10] <pawan> on the installed version
[03:10] <Networkgamer> what are you trying to do?
[03:10] <JeevesMoss> jack_sparrow:  that's cool.  do you have my e-mail to send what you've got in mind?  I might not be on here.
[03:11] <pawan> i am unable to login
[03:11] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : ok run "sudo ndiswrapper -l" to see if your nic driver loaded
[03:11] <Junecy> okay How do I check ot see if it installed and is working proerly?
[03:11] <Networkgamer> have you thought about reinstalling?
[03:11] <Cypher22> I see this ej *configuring network interfaces...   [OK]    _
[03:11] <ConstyXIV> i'm using stellarium on feisty, with a r200 series card ('radeon'), and all the text is unreadable
[03:11] <Networkgamer> also note that there are no caps in the login name
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: Give it to me in Voyager....  Ill give you mine as well
[03:11] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : your still booting up right ?
[03:11] <Cypher22> its stuck rught there and no desktop
[03:11] <Cypher22> yea
[03:11] <Cypher22> sounds like it loading but i am not sure
[03:11] <pawan> could be running out of sapce
[03:11] <poningru> Junecy: it should be do you have any wifi networks in your area?
[03:12] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : yeah give it a sec and let me know when its done booting up
[03:12] <JeevesMoss> jack_sparrow:  see ya there in a sec.
[03:12] <Junecy> I have a wireless network setup here at home
[03:12] <Cypher22> i think it froze :(
[03:12] <Junecy> my network card still doens't work
[03:12] <Junecy> I went into network tools to see if it were turned on but it wasn't
[03:12] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : do you see the hdd activity light flickering ?
[03:13] <seanj> hello, why is it taking hours to configure "flashplugin-nonfree" ?
[03:13] <Cypher22> no
[03:13] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : hit the enter key and see if it brings you to a login
[03:13] <JeevesMoss> anyone else want to comment on the mail server?
[03:13] <jmchaffie> Can somebody help with java and firefox?
[03:13] <Cypher22> its just bring that _ down more
[03:14] <jmchaffie> I've tried everythingI can find online, but I still can't get firefox or netscape to recognise java 5
[03:14] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : ok try a reboot again, turn it completly off, wait 10 seconds and turn back on.
[03:14] <Cypher22> should i disconncect my wireless usb and then reconnect when it fully loads?
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[03:14] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : not yet
[03:14] <Cypher22> ok
[03:14] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : ok try a reboot again, turn it completly off, wait 10 seconds and turn back on.
[03:14] <jrib> jmchaffie: did you install the sun-java5-plugin package?
[03:14] <carlos> I heard there was a script that could Compiz Fusion from source. Can anyone provide more information or a link?
[03:15] <jmchaffie> jrib: yes I did
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> JeevesMoss: Yes?
[03:15] <Lifeisfunny>    #compiz-fusion
[03:15] <jmchaffie> jrib: I've also tried several sym links as well.. no luck :(
[03:15] <Junecy> I black listed it earlier and I think that has something to do with it
[03:15] <Junecy> how do I check the blacklist?
[03:15] <Cypher22> it froze again
[03:15] <Cypher22> :(
[03:16] <jrib> jmchaffie: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[03:16] <jmchaffie> ok
[03:16] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : try removing the nic then reboot
[03:17] <Cypher22> i wish 2wire will release there drivers source codes :(
[03:17] <Junecy> okay on the blacklist is bcm43xx
[03:17] <Cypher22> ubuntu is loading
[03:17] <Cypher22> its loade
[03:17] <bruenig> I thought 2wire only sold routers
[03:17] <Cypher22> they seel wireless stuff too
[03:17] <Junecy> is there a safe way to remove my wireless card from the balcklist?
[03:17] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : it loaded up ?
[03:17] <Cypher22> yea loging in
[03:18] <Percept> Hi guys, I've got a problem with a harddisk and I have a plan but I would like to know if it has a chance of working before I try it. Is it ok if I explain it here ?
[03:18] <Junecy> !blacklist
[03:18] <ubot3> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[03:18] <Cypher22> its loaded should i plug it back in?
[03:18] <welly> hi all, I want to install ruby 1.8.6 which I believe is in gutsy. I'm running 7.04, and suggestions how I can do this?
[03:18] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : i think thats the issue. try a different usb port and reboot. see if it still locks up
[03:18] <Networkgamer> anytone familiar with hcitool?
[03:19] <quanquan> ?
[03:19] <Cypher22> it turns back on when i plug it in
[03:19] <quanquan> http://drupal.quanquan.org
[03:20] <quanquan> hoho
[03:20] <Cypher22> i think it will do the same if i restart :P
[03:20] <Cypher22> even with dir port
[03:20] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : run lsusb and see if the system has setected it
[03:20] <Cypher22> dif*
[03:20] <Cypher22> ok
[03:20] <Networkgamer> cypher:do iwconfig
[03:20] <Networkgamer> after lsusb
[03:20] <ari_stress> hello all
[03:20] <ari_stress> wazzup
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: What is the problem?
[03:20] <Cypher22> lsusb does not return anything
[03:21] <Percept> Ok, here goes ...
[03:21] <Junecy> can I sudo gedit blacklist?
[03:21] <seanj> my add-remove applications ting is stuck on "flashplugin nonfree", can I cancel it?
[03:21] <KleRoi> hello, i just installed ubuntu but somehow my firefox browser works fine with every site but it doesnt go on google... anyone has a clue why?
[03:21] <Networkgamer> seanj:do ctrl-c
[03:21] <seanj> k
[03:22] <Percept> I've got win Xp SP2 and today one of my harddrives started acting up ... I could see it in Windows explorer (along with the root folders on the disk) but when I clicked on any of them XP crashed with an exception and auto-rebooted.
[03:22] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : ok its turning on the nic when you plug it in but the systme does not detect it or recognize that it has been plugged in
[03:22] <Percept> I've run several disk diagnostics tools al they al show my disk is 100% fine
[03:22] <NET||abuse> I've a server running on dapper here for a good while now... problem is I don't have mod_rewrite installed,, it's not in the deb's for this box anywhere just now, where do i get the package from?
[03:22] <Junecy> I took bcm43xx off my blacklist
[03:22] <Cypher22> Do i reinstall the driver?
[03:22] <EJ> no
[03:22] <Junecy> I'm going to reboot and see if this solved the problem
[03:23] <Percept> but windows doesn't let le get my files ... so I was thinking of making a bootable Ubuntu disk and see if I can get my files of the disk with Ubuntu
[03:23] <Cypher22> every command that does anything to the usb hardware it will not return or it will freeze
[03:23] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : all we should have to do is make the system detect that there has been something plugged into the usb port
[03:23] <trakout> hey... I'm new.. how can I change a file in /ect/, I don't have permissions.. how do I get them?
[03:23] <Cypher22> k
[03:23] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : have you had this nic tested on this laptop with windows ?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: Sure, I do that all the time...   Do you have a big usb or a second hd to drop in to copy files over into..?
[03:23] <KleRoi> anyone knows why it seems that i can't go on google with ubuntu? o_O
[03:23] <Networkgamer> trakout:start all commands with sudo
[03:24] <trakout> okay
[03:24] <Cypher22> It works on windows fine
[03:24] <Percept> yup got a Lacie 600 gig
[03:24] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : sounding like a hardware confilct
[03:24] <Networkgamer> kleroi:do you have ethernet cord hooked in?
[03:24] <KleRoi> Networkgamer: uhm... what do you mean?
[03:24] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : 1 sec, lemme look something up real quick
[03:24] <Networkgamer> is there an ethernet cord going from your computer to a router thats connected to the internet
[03:25] <Percept> Does Ubuntu recognise disk by itself etc ... I really havn't worked with linux yet ... but MS is forcing me now :)
[03:25] <Cypher22> ok
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: You should not have any trouble... What is the format on that bad boy
[03:25] <sethk> Percept, slmost always, yes
[03:25] <sethk> s/slmost/almost/
[03:25] <KleRoi> Networkgamer:  yes i think its like that
[03:25] <Networkgamer> ok
[03:25] <Networkgamer> open up a terminal
[03:25] <pawan> how to access ntfs and fat32 files fromubuntu
[03:25] <Percept> format, NTFS/FAT you mean ? It's NTFS
[03:25] <KleRoi> Networkgamer: ok i did that
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: access isnt a problem
[03:25] <pegwole> in Soviet Russia, terminal open you!
[03:25] <Networkgamer> type sudo ifdown eth0
[03:25] <KleRoi> lol pegwole
[03:26] <Mr_Grieves_> Hi, I was having trouble with apache, so I removed the package, deleted /etc/apache*, and reinstalled the package. The problem is, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf wasn't regenerated. Any ideas?
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: Writing to your new drive ... depends on the format
[03:26] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : do you happen to have any other USB devices you can plug in to see if it locks or detects ?
[03:26] <trakout> I used sudo -i.. then, I tried cd /ect/ it's saying that the dir doesn't exist?
[03:26] <sethk> trakout, /etc, not /ect
[03:26] <Cypher22> my mouse is usb and it works fine
[03:26] <jonathon> Need help with installing flash player using the terminal. New to Ubuntu.
[03:26] <Networkgamer> kleroi:type sudo ifdown eth0
[03:26] <Cypher22> same thing for my keybroad
[03:26] <Percept> Jack_Sparrow: it's NTFS
[03:26] <Networkgamer> trakout:its etc,not ect
[03:26] <ari_stress> trakout: it's cd /etc i believe
[03:26] <sethk> there's an echo in here   :)
[03:26] <wastrel> Mr_Grieves_:  that's a feature not a bug, apt assumes since you removed the config that you want the config to be absent
[03:26] <ari_stress> i guess :)
[03:27] <taxman> jonathon: have you read up on how to enable the right repositories?
[03:27] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : try unplugging the mouse and only have the nic plugged in.
[03:27] <wastrel> apt treats config files special
[03:27] <mikeypizano> hello
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g  > Percept
[03:27] <Mr_Grieves_> wastrel: anyway to get it back?
[03:27] <taxman> hi mikey
[03:27] <trakout> it's still telling me that the dir doesn't exist... I typed "cd /ect", and cd /ect,
[03:27] <Mr_Grieves_> <--gentoo user...not used to apt :)
[03:27] <Junecy> for those of you who helped thank you
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: If there is nothing on it and you dont have 4gig plus file sizes then you might want to consider fat32
[03:27] <jonathon> Um, no I don't think so. I've been doing a lot of reading and I still haven't been able to figure things out. lol
[03:27] <Cypher22> my mouse does not power back on and now i can't do anything
[03:27] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : and lsusb should show the mouse listed
[03:27] <Percept> Jack_Sparrow : now you lost me ... is 3G the default fileformat in linux ?
[03:27] <Junecy> I believe that my wireless card is now working
[03:28] <Cypher22> lsusb still didn't work even when mouse is unplug
[03:28] <wastrel> Mr_Grieves_:  you could remove the package with --purge  and then reinstall
[03:28] <KleRoi> ok i did Networkgamer
[03:28] <KleRoi> erf
[03:28] <Cypher22> and 2wire is unplugged and still does not work
[03:28] <wastrel> Mr_Grieves_:  i think there's a better way but i don't remember what it is.
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: No ntfs-3g is a tool for writing to ntfs drives... It is considered safe, but I still want to let others test it further
[03:28] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : dosent your laptop have a mousepad ?
[03:28] <KleRoi> erm... Networkgamer?
[03:28] <Networkgamer> yeah
[03:28] <onexused> !dialup
[03:28] <ubot3> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[03:28] <Networkgamer> kleroi:type sudo ifdown eth0
[03:28] <taxman> jonathon: no problem, I'll teach you how to fish :)  Look up how to enable the extra repositories (it's much easier if you don't use the terminal) then do sudo apt-cache search flash
[03:28] <Junecy> Networkgamer: It was because my card was on the blacklist
[03:28] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : or is this a desktop system ?
[03:28] <Cypher22> I am using a PC my laptop works fine with ubunti
[03:29] <KleRoi> Networkgamer:  i did that and it just closed my networks
[03:29] <KleRoi> :\
[03:29] <Networkgamer> ok
[03:29] <Networkgamer> now do sudo ifup eth0
[03:29] <s0lo> evening
[03:29] <Cypher22> ubuntu is mess up on me now :(
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: I dual boot, but I do not let either OS write to the working partition of the other os
[03:29] <trakout> networkgamer: I tried 'cd /ect', and 'cd/ect,'.. both gave me a "no directory error"? this's never happened before..
[03:29] <KleRoi> Networkgamer: well thats what i did just now because i went offline with the ifdown command line
[03:29] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : do you have a ps2 mouse ?
[03:29] <Networkgamer> trakout:do cd /etc
[03:29] <Cypher22> n
[03:29] <Cypher22> no
[03:29] <vm> if i am on ubuntu, how do i install a kde session?
[03:29] <Networkgamer> vm:have you installed kde?
[03:29] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : what about a ps2 adaptor for the usb ?
[03:30] <sethk> vm, assuming kde is installed, you can choose the session type at the login screen
[03:30] <Percept> Jack_Sparrow : I'm not gonna install Ubuntu on a partition, it's just to see if I can get the files of fornow ... but seeing as the fileformats won't be the same I guess I'll have to install Ubuntu on a partition right ?
[03:30] <SEppl> sorry, what it the common path for the xorg.conf?
[03:30] <taxman> jonathon: that will give you a list of installable packages that have flash. You need to pick the right one. Best bet is to read the docs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation   search for words like flash, and read the common questions document
[03:30] <Cypher22> Ej do you need any info about the hardware i am trying to install?
[03:30] <sethk> SEppl, /etc/X11
[03:30] <SEppl> thx
[03:30] <Bogaurd> when getting mail with fetchmail, is there a way to set some knd of header, or rewrite the subject so that the emails can easily be caught by procmail?
[03:30] <allquixotic> OMG, I hope Gutsy Gibbon includes a SVN version of PulseAudio (stabilized and tested of course) if Lennart doesn't get an official stable out in time. WOW. Latency is incredibly low in the lock-free core :D
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: No you dont need to install ubuntu
[03:30] <Zambezi> Which packages do I need in Feisty to get hosts.allow and hosts.deny?
[03:30] <s0lo> does anyone know where i can find the pidgin .debs + otr messaging plugin? thanks in advance
[03:30] <vm> i need to install kde as well
[03:31] <wastrel> Bogaurd:  i don't think so, that's not really fetchmail's role
[03:31] <sethk> Bogaurd, it's possible, but there may be a simpler way to accomplish what you are doing.  So, exactly what are you doing, specifically?
[03:31] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : no not right now, we are dealing with a hardware conflict at this point, lsusb should show at least the mouse if not both mouse and nic, we need to find out if these 2 items are fighting with each other
[03:31] <Cypher22> lsusb works but my 2wire usb is not turning on
[03:31] <trakout> what's the command for deleting a file under root permissions?
[03:32] <Percept> can I get to this channel trough a java applet somwhere ? I got a laptop from a friend without Mirc so I could join again while my PC is booted in Ubuntu
[03:32] <Cypher22> and it detect my mouse
[03:32] <vm> i shall rephrase, "how do i install kde"
[03:32] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : i would be willing to be if you used a ps2 mouse and your nic it would work
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: The only "Trick" if you want to call it that will be to enable NTFS write using ntfs-3g....
[03:32] <taxman> trakout: sudo rm filename
[03:32] <ari_stress> vm: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:32] <Bogaurd> wastrel: hmm. I'm trying to download emails from a pop3 account and put them into a specific subfolder of my maildir. I would normally filter using procmail on the TO: address, but the email account in question is part of some mailing lists, so emails come in from multiple TO: addresses...
[03:32] <trakout> thanks taxman
[03:32] <taxman> np
[03:32] <wastrel> Bogaurd:  check for a delivered-to header
[03:32] <Percept> Jack_Sparrow seeing as i have NO linux experience that might idd be a trick :)
[03:33] <Bogaurd> wastrel: I never knew such a thing... let me have a look now
[03:33] <trakout> taxman: how do you create a folder (a text file) under root permissions?
[03:33] <Cypher22> I connect the 2wire and my kernal says i got a msg form syslogd
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: Put your other drive in your system... boot the live cd and come here... it will amaze you as to how easy it is...
[03:33] <Cypher22> looks like hex
[03:33] <jvai> hey peeps
[03:33] <Mr_Grieves_> wastrel: apt-get --purge remove apache2 && apt-get install apache2 && apache2
[03:33] <Mr_Grieves_> still gives the error about not finding /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[03:33] <taxman> trakout: same thing, use sudo and the command for creating a folder :)
[03:33] <sethk> trakout, more than one way exists.  I would just create the file, then use chown
[03:33] <sethk> trakout, or what taxman said, or, etc.
[03:34] <Bogaurd> wastrel: I just checked. It doesn't match my email address unfortunatley :(
[03:34] <Percept> Jack_Sparrow I'll read the info you've send me about the driver and I'll see how far I'll get ... laters dudes and thanks !
[03:34] <DIL> ZoneMinder anyone?
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Percept: YOu can also get a copy of Knoppix as I understand it has ntfs write support already setup in their live cd.
[03:34] <shavex> i want to boot into BackTrack 2... i have the GRUB bootloader... i have changed the menu.lst from Ubuntu which is on my first partition... i think i have it setup right but then all the sudden i try to boot to it and it says it cannot boot the partition
[03:34] <Cypher22> Message from syslogd@*******-Desktop at Thu Aug 9 and lots of hex like codes
[03:34] <Cypher22> what does that mean ej?
[03:35] <sethk> Cypher22, paste it to the paste web site, so we can all look at it.
[03:35] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : not sure, the mouse is plugged back in and this happens when you plug n the nic ?
[03:35] <Cypher22> how? i do not have internet on my pc :P
[03:35] <rosensturm> How do I change the default alsa sound device?
[03:36] <Cypher22> My 2wire usb is messed up and i think its pointless trying to get it to work :(
[03:36] <taxman> later all
[03:36] <Cypher22> its just going to keep on freezing my pc when i plug it in
[03:36] <sethk> Cypher22, copy it to a USB stick, or whatever, and put it on the machine you are using with IRC.  It has internet.
[03:37] <sethk> Cypher22, two wire?
[03:37] <Cypher22> its called 2wire
[03:37] <Cypher22> 2wire.com
[03:37] <trakout> okay.. sorry what I was trying didn't work.. now I need to know how to open and change a text file under root permissions.. please??
[03:37] <WindsofTime> How would I go about installing a server service such as XAMPP?
[03:37] <Cypher22> the worst driver company
[03:37] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : i dont think its messed up per say, i think the mouse and nic dont like working together, i would try a ps2 mouse and the usb nic and see ifyour still having issues, ps2 mice are fairly easy to find
[03:37] <sethk> trakout, sudo is the most straightforward.
[03:37] <Cypher22> I will just buy a linksys wireless :P
[03:38] <tbz> ok... so I installed the generic nvidia restricted drivers that came with ubuntu, I have an 8800GTS, I reboot, and x goes poof, will not load. Could I get some help now please?
[03:38] <ToddEDM> hey guys, heres a question... i want to know if it is possible to use the DVD drive from on my ubuntu laptop, from my windows XP PC.... i would like to burn some avi files and make DVDs
[03:38] <sethk> Cypher22, I saw a very nice optical usb mouse for $8 US.
[03:38] <Mr_Grieves_> apt-get --purge remove apache2 && apt-get install apache2 && apache2 still gives an error about not finding /etc/apache2/apache2.conf. Is there a way to regenerate it?
[03:38] <gerald> Hey, how do I add more desktops to gnome?
[03:38] <Cypher22> i al ready have a usb mouse >.>
[03:38] <pawan> any disk space utility
[03:38] <trakout> sethk... yeah, thanks I've got that figured out... but like I said I'm really new.. I don't know what else to do other than sudo..
[03:38] <WindsofTime> gerald get xubuntu?
[03:38] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : that would work too, if you do buy a nic make it one that has linux drivers as well
[03:38] <Cypher22> i will
[03:38] <tofaffy> I opened nano and I got this : Error reading /home/tofaffy/.nano_history: Permission denied
[03:38] <ToddEDM> does anyone know if this is possible?
[03:38] <Cypher22> linksys is nice to linux ^_^
[03:38] <Cypher22> 2wire hates linux :O
[03:39] <gerald> Mr_Grieves_, try to apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[03:39] <EJ> [ Cypher22] : Linksys router firmware is Linux
[03:39] <Taerom> ok folks, I could use some ubuntu wisdom here...
[03:39] <gerald> tofaffy that means you need to remove your ~/.nano_history file because you don't have access to it
[03:39] <Cypher22> I contact there email why they do not use linux drivers and they never email me back
[03:39] <Taerom> fresh install of 6.10 (all I had access to), installed all the updates and rebooted
[03:39] <Taerom> now update-manager dumps core when I try to run it
[03:39] <trakout> what's the command for opening/changing text files
[03:39] <Cypher22> I will go ahead and get the hardware bye
[03:40] <EJ> Cypher22: tc and keep us updated plz
[03:40] <Mr_Grieves_> gerald: That didn't do it :(
[03:40] <ToddEDM> does anyone know if it is possible to use the DVD drive from my laptop, on my windows desktop???
[03:40] <sethk> ToddEDM, I've never seen it done.  Reading a drive is possible, but burning is complicated.  Hard enough getting it to work at all, let alone via the network.
[03:40] <Taerom> update-manager segfaults without any errors... I thought it was SCIM crashing it, so I disabled SCIM. same problem ;(
[03:40] <mneptok> Taerom: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:40] <ToddEDM> thank you sethk
[03:40] <seanj> damn, now I have no flash player..
[03:40] <ToddEDM> i will look around
[03:40] <Taerom> mneptok: all righty, I'll give it a shot
[03:40] <sethk> Taerom, change the config so that a core file is produced, then we can look at the core file with gdb and most likely see what's going on.
[03:41] <A258> howTo submit an open source project to ubuntu's "download package manager" ?
[03:41] <trakout> can someone please tell me the command for manipulating a text file?? then saving it?
[03:41] <mneptok> A258: /join #ubuntu-motu
[03:41] <sethk> trakout, lots of available editors.  gedit is very simple.  vim is great if you know vi
[03:41] <Taerom> mneptok: apt-get upgrade segfaults
[03:41] <fdr> net
[03:41] <mneptok> Taerom: did the update work?
[03:42] <A258> mneptok : ok thanks
[03:42] <Taerom> mneptok: yes
[03:42] <trakout> sethk, I need a terminal based command.. remember, I'm working with sudo
[03:42] <Taerom> Reading package lists... Done
[03:42] <Taerom> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:42] <pawan> any defragmentation utility
[03:42] <vm> whats the best desktop system,kde? gnome? others?
[03:42] <Taerom> vm: text mode ;)
[03:42] <sethk> trakout, first, you can use GUI programs with sudo.  vi is console.
[03:42] <vm> taerom: notice i said desktop ;)
[03:42] <Taerom> vm: I know ;)
[03:42] <mayo> Hello
[03:43] <vm> taerom: u a sys admin or sumthin?
[03:43] <ToddEDM> ok heres a simpler solution to my problem... what is the best way to make a good looking dvd( for a friend that doesnt even have a PC)
[03:43] <sethk> trakout, the awful program that is the default text editor on a new install is console.  I work hard at forgetting the name, but someone will jump in with it.
[03:43] <Taerom> vm: just a text mode geek
[03:43] <ToddEDM> what program  is what im looking for
[03:43] <vm> taerom: kk lol, seek help :P
[03:43] <mayo> I have a problem I'm tryin to install Devede in Ubuntu LInux 7.4  and when i do sudo ./install.sh and put my password it does nothing
[03:43] <Taerom> that's why I'm here ;)
[03:43] <ToddEDM> if i dont reply, its cause i went to get another beer
[03:44] <Taerom> mneptok: if you have any tips, could you pm them to me? ball 'n chain is dragging me to breakfast while I'm here trying to fix this ;P
[03:44] <bruenig> mayo, it has to do something
[03:44] <sethk> mayo, that's unlikely.  About the only thing it cannot do is nothing.
[03:44] <trakout> sethk, I'm using gedit.. now, what do I do.. Iv'e opened the file and copied the code.. all I need is a sudo save.. how?
[03:44] <sethk> trakout, no, you run the program with sudo in the first place, as in    sudo gedit
[03:44] <vm> has anyone here used wine-doors ?
[03:44] <sethk> trakout, then you _are_ root, and any file you create is owned by root.
[03:44] <trakout> ohh.. thanks!!
[03:45] <mneptok> Taerom: sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:45] <mayo> well yeah it does nothing, noting apperars in the terminal that says reading packages or compiling or installing nothing. or errors
[03:45] <reya276> how can I make a link to this file libopenal.so
[03:45] <bruenig> mayo, devede is just python iirc, all that script likely does is move files around
[03:45] <reya276> an app is crashing and it's telling me this
[03:45] <reya276> libopenal.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:46] <mayo> k
[03:46] <sethk> mayo, if you don't see an error, not only did the script do something, it did that something successfully.
[03:46] <mayo> I try it to install devede from synaptic but when is installed, I clik on the devede icon app but it does not runn
[03:46] <tofaffy> Is there a command that willl list all files in a directory?
[03:46] <Purcupt> ls
[03:46] <bruenig> mayo, you need to install all of its dependencies
[03:47] <Purcupt> dq;ned cqn4t find the IRC server I zqs connected to ;in qgo
[03:47] <bobbob1016> what program can I use to check the MD5 of a file?
[03:47] <Purcupt> shit qwerty
[03:47] <rosensturm> My ubuntu system is almost completely set up now but my xpad driver keeps crashing the system if anything tries to access it...
[03:47] <bruenig> bobbob1016, md5sum
[03:47] <Yono> bobbob1016, md5sum
[03:48] <bobbob1016> bruenig, Yono, thanks, I thought it was built in, I didn't think to add sum to the end though
[03:48] <bruenig> bobbob1016, tabtab
[03:48] <sethk> rosensturm, where did the driver come from?  Is it part of the ubuntu distro, or did you download it from somewhere else?
[03:48] <rockets> Does launchpad karma actually do anything?
[03:48] <bruenig> rockets, no
[03:49] <jrib> rockets: well you get offered more cd's from shipit
[03:49] <rockets> jrib, not that I need them, but really?
[03:49] <ToddEDM> so  what do you guys use to burn avi files to DVD???
[03:49] <bruenig> ToddEDM, growisofs
[03:49] <jrib> rockets: yep
[03:49] <rockets> ToddEDM, devede
[03:49] <coopster> ToddEDM, K3B is my burner of choice
[03:50] <ToddEDM> ack
[03:50] <bruenig> k3b uses growisofs
[03:50] <rockets> I like k3b but not for that
[03:50] <ToddEDM> ok next question... which one is newb friendly
[03:50] <bruenig> growisofs is pretty newb friendly, just read the docs
[03:50] <rosensturm> sethk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318382&highlight=xbox+360+edgy
[03:50] <ToddEDM> can you make menus and crap?
[03:50] <bruenig> oh you mean burn it as a movie
[03:50] <sethk> rosensturm, ok, let me read for a moment.
[03:51] <kersinc> #panas
[03:51] <jetscreamer> dvdauthor
[03:51] <jetscreamer> qdvdauthor
[03:51] <wastrel> people like cheese
[03:51] <bruenig> ToddEDM, dvdstyler is decent
[03:51] <jetscreamer> deveedee
[03:51] <ToddEDM> i downloaded dvdstyler, but didnt work
[03:51] <vm> what are good desktop environments besides gnome and kde?
[03:51] <bruenig> ToddEDM, you need to install its dependency
[03:51] <jetscreamer> dvdstyler .. there's even s sources.list entry for latest dvdstyler
[03:51] <bruenig> vm, xfce
[03:51] <buize> is there p2p software for ubuntu like limewire,soulseek,etc?
[03:51] <bruenig> vm, that is about the only other DE, the rest are wm
[03:51] <aaron> if anyone knows iptables, please view my thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=521868
[03:51] <buize> i need to 'buy' some mp3s
[03:52] <bruenig> buize, use bittorrent
[03:52] <sethk> I was thinking the driver might be mismatched to the kernel, but if you downloaded source and built it, then that is not the problem.
[03:52] <wastrel> limewire has a linux version
[03:52] <buize> bruenig: bittorrent is good for cds but i need a few single tracks
[03:52] <rosensturm> sethk, If I cat /dev/input/js0 or run jstest I can see data coming from joystick but if I run jscalibration or sdlmame it seems the whole system locks up.
[03:52] <KleRoi> hello, can anyone tell me why my browser seems to go so slow in ubuntu? and also it just doesnt go in some websites like google or stuff...
[03:52] <buize> thx wastrel ill look for that
[03:52] <Mr_Grieves_> does anyone know how to make apt install a package with all of its config files?
[03:53] <aaron> Mr_Grieves_, huh?
[03:53] <bruenig> Mr_Grieves_, it already does that
[03:53] <ToddEDM> ok i have qDVDauthor installed i guess, so maybe i should go try it
[03:53] <sethk> rosensturm, try running jscal... under strace
[03:54] <Mr_Grieves_> aaron, bruenig: I was having trouble with apache, so I removed the package, deleted /etc/apache*, and reinstalled the package. The problem is, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf wasn't regenerated. Any ideas?
[03:54] <jetscreamer> Mr_Grieves_: try --purge next time
[03:54] <bruenig> Mr_Grieves_, you should not have deleted /etc/apache*,  you should have purged the package
[03:54] <KleRoi>  hello, can anyone tell me why my browser seems to go so slow in ubuntu? and also it just doesnt go in some websites like google or stuff...
[03:54] <aaron> That's a good question. perhaps you should purge?
[03:54] <aaron> do you have the urge to purge!
[03:55] <Mr_Grieves_> I have tried purge - apt-get --purge remove apache2 , right?
[03:55] <rosensturm> sethk, How? Won't the system still just lock up?
[03:55] <rockets> What would be awesome is a way to --purge packages without having to reinstall them first.
[03:55] <sethk> rosensturm, yes, but you'll see the system call that occurs and causes the lockup, which may be a clue.
[03:55] <rockets> (if you already removed them that is)
[03:55] <AlgorthmicContro> purgees
[03:55] <AlgorthmicContro> PURGESS
[03:56] <bruenig> rockets, you can
[03:56] <winndixie> GAY.
[03:56] <Mr_Grieves_> bruenig: I'm all ears :)
[03:56] <bruenig> just run the command
[03:56] <kidbuntu> how do you trace a .java file with eclipse. I mean the program is already complete. but i want to trace .java file that someone already build
[03:56] <rockets> bruenig, how, aside from looking at the file locations and manually removing them
[03:56] <rosensturm> sethk, Ok, brb
[03:56] <bruenig> manually removing them won't work
[03:56] <reya276> how can I make this error (libopenal.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) go away
[03:56] <winndixie> install the library then run ldconfig
[03:57] <Mr_Grieves_> is my syntax correct?
[03:57] <Mr_Grieves_> apt-get --purge remove apache2
[03:57] <KleRoi> does anyone knows why my browser seems to go so slow in ubuntu? and also it just doesnt go in some websites like google or stuff...
[03:57] <bruenig> reya276, get that file
[03:57] <jetscreamer> Mr_Grieves_: ADD SUDO
[03:57] <bruenig> !repeat | KleRoi
[03:57] <ubot3> KleRoi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:57] <jetscreamer> err oops
[03:57] <Mr_Grieves_> jetscreamer: I'm root
[03:57] <vm> if u use xgl, when i install kde, what will happen?
[03:58] <SpectralDesign> I'm looking for laptop CPU advice re: ubuntu.  I feel that a "aheap" centrino and 512MB ram (under Ubuntu) would generally outperform a top-of-the-line CoreDuo with 1+GB ram (under windoze), but can anyone validate that assumption fgor me?
[03:58] <sethk> vm, your computer will melt.
[03:58] <SpectralDesign> err "cheap" centrino
[03:58] <kidbuntu> how do you trace a .java file with eclipse. I mean the program is already complete. but i want to trace .java file that someone already build
[03:58] <AlgorthmicContro> Ubuntu arbitrarily stopped mounting my two other internal hard drives, I previously simply mounted them with an NTFS-config program, I haven't even access these drives in the span of when this problem occurred, I checked fstab and it looked fine.Could Anyone help?
[03:58] <vm> sethk: what?
[03:58] <winndixie> i want very much put my anus in a women's penis
[03:58] <bruenig> SpectralDesign, I don't think so
[03:58] <sethk> vm, I wasn't being serious.
[03:59] <vm> sethk: this i know, was expecting you to rectify the stupid comment with useful information
[03:59] <SpectralDesign> bruenig - I know my wifes laptop is windozeXP/centrino and it's a dog compared to my 4 year old desktop pentium with Ubuntu...
[03:59] <rockets> None of my apps will go fullscreen. Whenever I try to make vlc or totem or whatever go fullscreen, it appears in a window that extends only to the edge of my panel. and it has window borders and everything
[03:59] <rockets> Any idea why that might be?
[03:59] <bruenig> SpectralDesign, she may be all virused up
[04:00] <sethk> vm, that's a good way to convince someone to help you.
[04:00] <BlueBird> rockets: stanard behaviour by the windows manager
[04:00] <winndixie> rockets: do you have XVideo extension in your xorg.conf
[04:00] <Ominous> how can i get a 5 button mouse working?
[04:00] <Purcupt_> How do I get on calvinofreenodenet ?
[04:00] <bruenig> SpectralDesign, ubuntu is not really the fastest of distros anyways, maybe if you went for a lighter one, they would be fairly close, it all depends really what you want
[04:00] <BlueBird> rockets: setthe panel to auto-hide to avoid it
[04:00] <rockets> winndixie, Should it be enabled or disabled?
[04:00] <SpectralDesign> bruenig -- well, it's a gateway, so it's definately all saomethinged-up, but I set her up with Avast! and antispyware utils
[04:00] <rockets> BlueBird, no, it never did that before.
[04:00] <rockets> BlueBird, it used to be fine. never was on autohide
[04:00] <BlueBird> hmmm
[04:00] <vm> sethk: didnt exactly give me a good answer did u
[04:00] <Purcupt_> How do I get on calvino.freenode.net
[04:00] <rockets> winndixie, Should I turn Xvideo on or off?
[04:00] <bruenig> Purcupt_, /server that
[04:00] <Purcupt_> ok thx
[04:00] <winndixie> rockets: it should be loaded
[04:01] <rockets> winndixie, ill check
[04:01] <rockets> winndixie, its not loaded
[04:01] <ToddEDM> sweet, im downloading templates for qdvdauthor
[04:01] <rockets> winndixie, under modules just put Load "Xvideo" ?
[04:01] <winndixie> rockets: you could also try changing the output device for vlc
[04:01] <EJ> !sshd
[04:01] <ubot3> Factoid sshd not found
[04:01] <EJ> !ssh
[04:01] <ubot3> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:02] <Penguinsaremyfri> Is there ANY way to skin gaim/pidgin?
[04:02] <rockets> brb
[04:02] <SpectralDesign> bruenig -- well, here's the deal... I want something for college... open-office, wireless, firefox, evolution, mind-mapping or other visualization type things... nothing major, but I don't want to wait days when switching from one open app to an other....  with my 4-year old desktop it runs Very smoothly under ubuntu
[04:02] <Purcupt_> jack_sparrow ?
[04:03] <drate> Anybody think they can help me figure out why my ndiswrapper/wpa_supplicant combo with a wmp54gs Linksys works in Puppy 16.1, worked in Ubuntu Edgy, but refuses to work in Ubuntu Feisty?
[04:03] <Networkgamer> well i g2g
[04:03] <Networkgamer> cya
[04:03] <bruenig> SpectralDesign, I personally, assuming I were on a budget would get a really cheap laptop and put zenwalk or arch on it and load it down with fluxbox or something
[04:03] <rosensturm> sethk, Ok, i'm back.
[04:03] <Seq> does anybody know how to get a bluetooth mouse to autoconnect when you turn the mouse on?
[04:03] <sethk> rosensturm, what's the last line?
[04:03] <drate> I'd almost be willin to pay money for a good, operable answer.
[04:04] <bruenig> SpectralDesign, the laptop you were talking about would be fine, I just don't think it would be equal to the one you compared it to
[04:04] <SpectralDesign> buenig -- thanks, I'll have to investigate that (I have no idea what it is, lol... but thanks! I'll go Google it all right now!
[04:04] <Purcupt_> Anyone know if there was a jack_sparrow inhere minutes ago ?
[04:04] <Purcupt_> 15 minutes
[04:04] <rosensturm> sethk, Well the first time I tried it the thing actually worked fine. I could move the joysticks and see them move on the program.
[04:04] <Mr_Grieves_> I'm still not having any luck. I've reinstall, purged, removed, installed apache2 & deps a couple hundred times... is there a way to just edit the database to trick apt into thinking that apache2 has never been installed so that it will pull in all config files as if it were the first install?
[04:04] <Taerom> Purcupt_: try /whowas jack_sparrow
[04:04] <Taerom> might help ya
[04:05] <Purcupt_> thx
[04:05] <rosensturm> sethk, Then I tried it again and it happened, but I notice that the system doesn't actually freeze. I just seem to lose all input.
[04:05] <Taerom> once again, thanks mneptok ;D
[04:05] <sethk> rosensturm, that makes more sense, since we are talking about an input driver.
[04:05] <SpectralDesign> bruenig -- thanks, I'll have to investigate that (I have no idea what it is, lol... but thanks! I'll go Google it all right now!
[04:06] <drate> I'm guessing that's a no...
[04:06] <reya276> any idea where I can install libopenal.so
[04:06] <Purcupt_> I need to get files from a NTFS disk and put thzm on another NTFS disk but someoine told me I eeded a NTFS-3G driver for that
[04:06] <Purcupt_> anyone able to help me how to get that driver ?
[04:06] <winndixie> reya276: /usr/lib ?
[04:06] <drate> Yes Percupt...
[04:07] <reya276> no I keep getting this error
[04:07] <drate> Percupt_ It should be pretty easily available in the repositiores.
[04:07] <reya276> libopenal.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:07] <rockets> winndixie, its still not working. loaded xvideo and set vlc to use it
[04:07] <drate> Purcupt_ It should be available int hte repositories.
[04:07] <Purcupt_> drate it's my first time on linux so where can I find the repositoreis ? :)
[04:07] <KleRoi> hello, i have some problems installing the flash plugin for mozilla firefox... i try to install the flashplugin-nonfree but after i do an error occurs, and a long list of errors pops up, telling me that there are "problems with the dependences" or something, don't know the exact translation... and that there is an error code of 58. anyone can help?
[04:07] <drate> Ohhhhh......
[04:07] <Purcupt_> I'm no PC noob though ;)
[04:07] <drate> You are using Ubuntu I assume... what version?
[04:07] <rosensturm> sethk, On thing I noticed in strace was that read was always returning -1 and said the resource was temporary unavailable, or something like that.
[04:08] <Purcupt_> just downloaded the lastest version, I'm running from bootable disk
[04:08] <winndixie> rockets: are you running beryl or something lame like that?
[04:08] <drate> You mean Feisty?
[04:08] <yurimxpxman> how can I setup postfix to use smtp.gmail.com ?
[04:08] <drate> Feisty is not my favoite. can't get it to do what I need it to.
[04:08] <drate> But anyway..
[04:08] <rockets> winndixie, nope. im using fglrx but no beryl or xgl. and it always worked before
[04:08] <rockets> wait a minute.
[04:08] <drate> Let's see, as I c an't use my ubuntu right now.... okay, goto um....
[04:08] <rockets> let me double check that. i do have an xgl session but i thought i wasnt using it. maybe i am
[04:09] <Purcupt_> drate: im checking which one I got
[04:09] <drate> Oh, the menu on the top of the screen
[04:09] <drate> there are three option, applications, places, and something else
[04:09] <drate> goto the something else
[04:09] <sethk> rosensturm, sounds like there may be a deadlock issue.  Troubleshooting a driver problem is somewhat involved, and that's what's needed here.  I assume you searched for other people talking about the problem on the net?
[04:09] <yurimxpxman> drate: System ;)
[04:09] <Purcupt_> ok thats 'system'
[04:09] <drate> Thank you
[04:09] <drate> Brain fart.
[04:09] <Purcupt_> hehe
[04:09] <drate> Then you want Administration under that
[04:09] <thoreauputic> reya276: try  libopenal-dev
[04:09] <drate> then look for synaptic package manager.
[04:10] <thoreauputic> reya276: it's in that package according to apt-file
[04:10] <FireHazard17> can anyone verify the xbox360 wired  heard set working in ubuntu
[04:10] <macd> is there a arg I can throw update-manage at cli to upgrade release?
[04:10] <Purcupt_> got it
[04:10] <KleRoi> mmm i'll try asking again,  have some problems installing the flash plugin for mozilla firefox... i try to install the flashplugin-nonfree but after i do an error occurs, and a long list of errors pops up, telling me that there are "problems with the dependences" or something, don't know the exact translation... and that there is an error code of 58. anyone can help?
[04:10] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, huh?
[04:10] <drate> Oh, btw, possibly a quicker way to do this is open up a prompt and give a "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"  not sure though.
[04:10] <drate> But continueing gui style....
[04:10] <ZeroTolerance> Can someone help me, I connected USB logitech headset, it detects it but no sound comes out.
[04:10] <yurimxpxman> how can I setup postfix to use smtp.gmail.com ?
[04:10] <drate> Open up synaptic, and do a search for ntfs-3g or whatever it's called.
[04:11] <FireHazard17> can anyone *verify* the xbox360 wired head set working in ubuntu*
[04:11] <FireHazard17> better?
[04:11] <Alexis> hola
[04:11] <rosensturm> sethk, Yes but I haven't found much.
[04:11] <Alexis> !
[04:11] <rockets> winndixie,  I don't get it. Fullscreen always worked before. I'm not using Xgl now for sure.
[04:11] <Alexis> como estan???
[04:11] <sethk> yurimxpxman, I'm not sure what you mean.  Generally, you would use postfix _or_ some other mail server.
[04:11] <Alexis> pork hablan ingles
[04:11] <drate> Does it give you any responses?
[04:11] <cccvvvppp> WOW
[04:11] <winndixie> rockets: try rm ~/.vlc
[04:11] <thoreauputic> !es
[04:11] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:11] <cccvvvppp> WoW works great in winedoors
[04:11] <cccvvvppp> on unbuntu
[04:11] <cccvvvppp> no lag at all, wtf
[04:11] <yurimxpxman> sethk: how would I send a message from fetchmail via smtp.gmail.com ?
[04:11] <sethk> Alexis, there is an IRC channel in spanish.
[04:11] <EJ> is there a way to reconfig the network like i did during initial install thru terminal window ?
[04:11] <cccvvvppp> Quad core, fastest mhz
[04:12] <cccvvvppp> 4gig ram
[04:12] <wastrel> yurimxpxman:  relayhost = your.smtp.relayhost
[04:12] <drate> Purcupt_?
[04:12] <cccvvvppp> 8800gtx
[04:12] <Purcupt_> drate I get results but nothing with 3g
[04:12] <rockets> winndixie, yes but this happens in totem too
[04:12] <sethk> yurimxpxman, fetchmail is for incoming mail, not outgoing mail.
[04:12] <drate> hmm...
[04:12] <limefan913> Can anyone give me a hand with my boot loader problem? Its on the drive, but it didnt write to the MBR so it still boots into Windows instead of GRUB.
[04:12] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, might have a hard time pluging it in.
[04:12] <mneptok> !enter | cccvvvppp
[04:12] <ubot3> cccvvvppp: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:12] <KleRoi> /J #ubuntu-it
[04:12] <winndixie> rockets: what changes did you make, if any, before this problem occured?
[04:12] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: no problem with that
[04:12] <rockets> winndixie, none that i know of!
[04:12] <yurimxpxman> sethk: I'm using the mda option to forward it to another address (or at least trying to )
[04:12] <wastrel> yurimxpxman:  assuming gmail allows you to relay
[04:12] <FireHazard17> Alexis: no habla esnaol en #ubuntu
[04:12] <drate> okay.... somewhere under administration I think,,, possibly preferences, bu tithink administration, find "sources"
[04:12] <EJ> i cant remote into my u box or access the default web page, and i think its how the network got setup
[04:12] <Alexis> #Chat
[04:12] <iratik> when i do chown -R someuser:somegroup * ...  it leaves out entries that start with "." err.. that are visible by ls -ahl and not by ls -l ... how do i make chown/chmod apply to all files in a tree regardless if they have a dot in front or not?
[04:12] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, how in the world did you plug it in?
[04:12] <drate> you might wanna close synaptic for the moment.
[04:12] <FireHazard17> though a 360 controller
[04:13] <Purcupt_> ok sec
[04:13] <yurimxpxman> wastrel: where do I put that option?
[04:13] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, and then you pluged the controller into the computer?
[04:13] <sethk> I do that with maildrop (which is a procmail alternative), which is straightforward.  I don't know how to do it with fetchmail, or even if it's possible.
[04:13] <FireHazard17> yes
[04:13] <FireHazard17> controller works
[04:13] <FireHazard17> but i dont recall if the mic did
[04:13] <Purcupt_> sources or services ?
[04:14] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, i doubt ubuntu will work with the 360 controller, let alone the mic
[04:14] <drate> sources
[04:14] <wastrel> yurimxpxman:  if you don't know that, then you don't know how to configure postfix & you're just going to break it
[04:14] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: controller works fine!
[04:14] <WindsofTime> *help*: It seems that Linux does not recognize the Media controls on my keyboard (Play,Stop,Next,Volume...ect)
[04:14] <EJ> is there a way to reconfig the network like i did during initial install thru terminal window ? i cant remote into my u box or access the default web page, and i think its how the network got setup.
[04:14] <Purcupt_> hmm ... how can I change mlanguage cause I'm not working in english here
[04:14] <WindsofTime> How can this be changed?
[04:14] <wastrel> yurimxpxman:  /etc/postfix/main.cf   is where relayhost goes.
[04:14] <drate> Oh...
[04:14] <yurimxpxman> wastrel: I didn't know  you were referring to postfix.
[04:14] <drate> Uh....
[04:14] <yurimxpxman> wastrel: thanks
[04:14] <FireHazard17> go to the forum there is a driver just for ubuntu
[04:14] <drate> idk
[04:14] <sas> gjcm
[04:14] <techjim> hey I have two hard drives.  Could I dual-boot windows on one and ubuntu on the other?
[04:14] <drate> Okay.. there is another way... you said you are not a PC noob right?
[04:15] <drate> How do you feel about command line?
[04:15] <wastrel> yurimxpxman:  but that means all your mail is going to go to smtp.google.com , which will probably reject it
[04:15] <nikron> techjim: yes
[04:15] <nikrud> WindsofTime, system-prefs-keyboard shortcuts
[04:15] <WindsofTime> ty
[04:15] <Purcupt_> commandline is fine for me
[04:15] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, did you get it to do anything on the computer? or did the light only come on?
[04:15] <WindsofTime> nikrud: There is not preferences in Xubuntu
[04:15] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, huh. intersting
[04:15] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: it works! ok?
[04:15] <drate> Open up the prompt and do a "locate sources.list"
[04:15] <EJ> !network
[04:15] <techjim> nikron: I was sure one could with partitions.  Great.  Would you happen to know anything about fakeraid- particularly promise fasttrak RAIDs?
[04:15] <ubot3> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:15] <sethk> techjim, sure.  windows has problems if it isn't booting from primary master.  linux can boot from any disk.
[04:15] <nikrud> WindsofTime, ah, xfce. No clue
[04:16] <drate> If you get a bunch of permission denied BS, put "sudo" at the beginning of the comand.
[04:16] <WindsofTime> found it
[04:16] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: just asking if *anyone* can verify the headset working
[04:16] <Purcupt_> looking fo preompt :)
[04:16] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, OK! i didn't see your line on that there was a driver. i have no clue if the mic will work. why don't you try?
[04:16] <rockets> winndixie, hey totem works now that i set it back to totem-gstreamer instead of totem-xine.
[04:16] <rockets> but i changed that a LONG time ago
[04:16] <drate> Oh.. sorry, applications>... accessories maybe?
[04:16] <rockets> and it was fine
[04:16] <FireHazard17> ok fine i will
[04:16] <EJ> is there a way to reconfig the network like i did during initial install thru terminal window ? i cant remote into my u box or access the default web page, and i think its how the network got setup.
[04:16] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, i'll get my controller
[04:16] <drate> Possibly Applications>system tools... it's under there somewhere.
[04:16] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908:  want me to link to the file?
[04:16] <drate> I'd right click it when you find it and hit "add to launch panel"
[04:17] <techjim> sethk: ok great.  I've had a hell of a time w/ the bastard pseudo-raid controller.  BIOS should now set it as ATA not RAID controller
[04:17] <rockets> winndixie, but vlc doesnt work still
[04:17] <Purcupt_> got the terminal
[04:17] <drate> Oh good.
[04:17] <wastrel> EJ:  did you set up a firewall?
[04:17] <drate> Like I said, "locate sources.list" or else "sudo locate sources.list"
[04:17] <wastrel> sudo isn't necessary for locate
[04:17] <winndixie> rockets: try deleting the ~/.vlc
[04:17] <rockets> winndixie, did that
[04:17] <winndixie> weird
[04:18] <EJ> [ wastrel] : i havent done anything in setting up a firewall, unless Ubuntu 7.04 server sets it up by default on install
[04:18] <drate> I couldn't remember if it had given me trouble before or not wastrel
[04:18] <Purcupt_> locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old
[04:18] <Purcupt_> /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[04:18] <Purcupt_> /usr/share/man/fr/man5/sources.list.5.gz
[04:18] <Purcupt_> /usr/share/man/es/man5/sources.list.5.gz
[04:18] <Purcupt_> /usr/share/man/man5/sources.list.5.gz
[04:18] <Purcupt_> /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/sources.list_extrarepositories
[04:18] <Purcupt_> /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/sources.list_upgradehoarytobreezy
[04:18] <drate> like I said, I can't use my Ubuntu right now.
[04:18] <Purcupt_> /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/sources.list
[04:18] <wastrel> EJ:  can you ping the machine?
[04:18] <drate> That's it?
[04:18] <EJ> [ wastrel] : i cannot even access the server via samba and i just installed that.
[04:18] <thoreauputic> Purcupt_: don't paste in the channel please
[04:18] <wastrel> Purcupt_:  sudo updatedb    also don't paste
[04:18] <Purcupt_> yup
[04:18] <Purcupt_> without the sudo
[04:18] <EJ> [ wastrel] : 1 sec and i'll try
[04:18] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, yes, send the link
[04:18] <drate> Hm...
[04:19] <drate> you didn't get any permission deneid messages/?
[04:19] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: in a couple minutes
[04:19] <EJ> [ wastrel] : ping timeout
[04:19] <Purcupt_> nope
[04:19] <drate> there should have been like, /etc/sources.list or something to that effect.
[04:19] <Ashfire908> oh
[04:19] <drate> Well that's just frustrating.
[04:19] <wastrel> it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:19] <Purcupt_> but I'm running on bootable disk .. does that have anything to do with it ?
[04:19] <drate> Thank you.
[04:19] <thoreauputic> sources.list is in /etc/apt
[04:19] <sutabi> Anyone know how to get my laptop to reconize my lan port again? for some reason it just stopped reconizing it
[04:19] <drate> Oh... right...
[04:19] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, um.... i forgot. i don't have a sound card
[04:19] <wastrel> and if the locatedb is old you can refresh it with sudo updatedb
[04:19] <Sithe> Is there a linux port for Gunbound?
[04:19] <mneptok> !pastebin | Purcupt_
[04:19] <ubot3> Purcupt_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:20] <drate> Check where they are saying... do "ls /etc/apt/sources.list" and see if it echo's what you said.
[04:20] <Purcupt_> ok sorry for not using pastebin
[04:20] <WindsofTime> *HELP* It seems that in Xubuntu on the keyboard settings, my specific keyboard (Dell Multimedia) only the Mute button works..but it only mutes and doesn't Unmute..I need help getting all the Media Controls to work properly..Help anyone?
[04:20] <Sithe> drate: thanks
[04:20] <drate> Sithe? yes?
[04:20] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, i could try to insall one, but i'm not srtond enoguh to lift the server i use for a computer.
[04:21] <rockets> winndixie, I got it.
[04:21] <thoreauputic> !laptop
[04:21] <ubot3> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[04:21] <Sithe> drate: you helped me and I said thanks...
[04:21] <Purcupt_> drate ... goes to next line without any feedback in the terminal
[04:21] <rockets> winndixie, Default option was to let the windowmanager handle fullscreening. Disabled that and let vlc handle it. works fine now
[04:21] <winndixie> coolio :)
[04:21] <drate> Oh, how did I help you Sithe... I'm a bit confused.
[04:21] <drate> Umkay.... well, possibly you're right then, the Live Session might be affectin things.
[04:22] <Purcupt_> it found the file
[04:22] <Sithe> drate: Oh nevermind I guess you didn't. But, do you know if there is a Gunbound port for Linux?
[04:22] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: you dont need a soundcard to use the headset
[04:22] <drate> Oh, It did find the file?
[04:22] <drate> I do not know Sithe.
[04:22] <drate> Sorry.
[04:22] <Purcupt_> yup
[04:22] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: on windows at least
[04:22] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, yes i do. and i'm on ubuntu
[04:22] <Sithe> drate: Do you know where I can find a list of ported games?
[04:22] <loa_dude> yo.  can anyone recommend a good domain name hoster that allows CNAMEs in the zone?
[04:22] <drate> oh, Sithe, check wikipedia.
[04:23] <thoreauputic> !games
[04:23] <ubot3> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:23] <drate> I found a great list of free and open source games on that
[04:23] <Sithe> drate: alright thanks
[04:23] <drate> and Purcupt_ okay...
[04:23] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: it is its own sound card it functions as a usb sound card when it works
[04:23] <Ashfire908> !offtopic | loa_dude,
[04:23] <ubot3> loa_dude,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:23] <drate> do "vi /whatever/the/path/name/is/sources.list
[04:23] <Sithe> If not ill just install it with Cedega
[04:23] <drate> "
[04:23] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, fine. what's the link?
[04:23] <WindsofTime> *HELP* It seems that in Xubuntu on the keyboard settings, my specific keyboard (Dell Multimedia) only the Mute button works..but it only mutes and doesn't Unmute..I need help getting all the Media Controls to work properly..Help anyone?
[04:23] <thoreauputic> drate: if he's new, i wouldn't recommend vi - try nano instead
[04:24] <drate> actually we're both wrong
[04:24] <Purcupt_> ok openend the file in vi
[04:24] <drate> I should have said.. gedit
[04:24] <wastrel> i used vi when i was new :p
[04:24] <drate> but whatever
[04:24] <EJ> [ wastrel] : i got it, for some reason eth0 and wlan0 had the same ip address, i disabled the eth0 interface and its working, is there a way to fix this so it dosent happen again on reboot ?
[04:24] <drate> Okay... first thing hit the letter "i" before I forget to tel you that"
[04:24] <CydeSwype> hey gang
[04:24] <Ashfire908> !repeat | windsoftime
[04:24] <ubot3> windsoftime: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:24] <Penguinsaremyfri> Is there a way to save your entire linux system to a live cd?
[04:24] <Purcupt_> used vi once before to config a server but that's been  a long time
[04:24] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: if you just want the controller it'll work if you want the headset i can almost guarantee it wont
[04:24] <drate> "i" goes to insert mode"
[04:24] <WindsofTime> -.-
[04:24] <wastrel> EJ:  i've given up trying to understand how networking works anymore with network-manager.
[04:25] <nikron> Err, I just noticed in my sever that there's /etc/rc0.d/ /etc/rc1.d/  Can I assume that's upstart?
[04:25] <EJ> I'm aughing ut oud
[04:25] <Purcupt_> yup in edit mode
[04:25] <quanquan> ?
[04:25] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, just give me the link
[04:25] <CydeSwype> is there a specific channel for gutsy discussion?
[04:25] <drate> then look around the text file (up and down arrows) and find where it talkes about "universe" and ... oh crud, whats the other...
[04:25] <EJ> [ wastrel] : well i plan on running this as a dedicated server so i shouldent have to reboot often
[04:25] <drate> multiversw
[04:25] <Purcupt_> shit I scrolled
[04:25] <drate> multiverse
[04:25] <wastrel> CydeSwype:  #ubuntu+1
[04:25] <nikrud> nikron, no, /etc/event.d is upstart
[04:25] <CydeSwype> sweet.  thanks
[04:25] <drate> you scrolled?
[04:26] <nikron> What are /etc/rc0.d/ and stuff then?
[04:26] <Purcupt_> yeah and got all lines with A
[04:26] <drate> ???
[04:26] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=30500&d=1177289766
[04:26] <nikrud> nikron, the sysvinit system; upstart calls those
[04:26] <drate> I'm not sure I follow... is your mistake recoverable?
[04:26] <Purcupt_> how do I quit vi without saving ?
[04:26] <Purcupt_> !q ?
[04:26] <drate> oh
[04:26] <ubot3> Factoid q ? not found
[04:26] <sethk> nikron, start scripts for the various run levels.
[04:26] <drate> um
[04:26] <sethk> Purcupt_, :q!
[04:26] <nikron> Ahh okay, thanks
[04:26] <quanquan> NickPresta
[04:26] <Purcupt_> ok got the file back in its original form
[04:26] <Purcupt_> in vi
[04:27] <drate> Oh, ther eyou go then
[04:27] <drate> okay, move up and down wwith the arrow keys
[04:27] <krammer_> Hello
[04:27] <drate> find the multiverse, and universe sections
[04:27] <kefka> !wubi
[04:27] <ubot3> Factoid wubi not found
[04:27] <tweakism> so, my audio was sounding corrupt.  I restarted, and now apparently the driver isn't loaded..  lshw -C multimedia shows my CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller as UNCLAIMED.  I haven't changed anything afaik.  where do I start?  is there a module I should try to modprobe?
[04:27] <Eric79> quit
[04:27] <Purcupt_> euhm thats giving me A B C D
[04:27] <drate> really?
[04:27] <drate> well screw vi then
[04:27] <quanquan> ubot3??
[04:27] <tweakism> haha
[04:27] <quanquan> wubi?
[04:27] <krammer_> HOw do i know if i have 3d ?
[04:27] <drate> get out of that, and do gedit whatever/sources.list
[04:28] <kefka> Do you recommend the use of wubi? it's an ubuntu installer
[04:28] <Purcupt_> I got a belgian keyboard and language settings
[04:28] <drate> You'll like that much better.
[04:28] <tweakism> Purcupt_: when your term is fucked up, you can use h j k and l to navigate in vim
[04:28] <WindsofTime> Ashfire908: Neither site offers tips or help on my current issue =\
[04:28] <nikrud> krammer, glxinfo | grep direct
[04:28] <quanquan> sogou is the best
[04:28] <michael> anyone working with kbuntu and wpa?
[04:28] <quanquan> :)
[04:28] <drate> are ya gedit yet?
[04:29] <krammer_> direct renderering yes
[04:29] <michael> for some reason wpa is not wanting to work with knetwork manager
[04:29] <nikron> When I'm in a tab completion shell if I tab after a _, I get commands like _gzip _dpkg, but when I do which _gzip, it returns nothing.
[04:29] <krammer_> HOw can i use 3d beside for games?
[04:29] <Purcupt_> yup in gedit
[04:29] <Purcupt_> forgot a slash first
[04:29] <drate> michael, cold be your card... what card are you using?
[04:29] <drate> oh
[04:29] <drate> sorry
[04:29] <Ashfire908> WindofTime, system -> adminsitration -> restrested drivers manager
[04:29] <nikron> I have no clue how they got there, anyone have an idea?
[04:29] <drate> but ou got the file up now?
[04:29] <Purcupt_> yup
[04:29] <michael> draconius, Intel Corporation 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE
[04:30] <drate> ohkay, can you find the secions I'm talking about?
[04:30] <FireHazard17> drate: his card is cold?
[04:30] <drate> multiverse and universe?
[04:30] <drate> could.. sorry
[04:30] <Purcupt_> it's a small file rightg
[04:30] <drate> could, not cold
[04:30] <Ashfire908> WindsofTime, you most likey need to get a driver. do to where i said to
[04:30] <jerkface03> Is ncurses automatically supplied with the default unbuntu 6.06 server installation?
[04:30] <WindsofTime> Ashfire908, my hardware doesn't need any restricted drivers
[04:30] <drate> pends on what you mean by small i spose
[04:30] <WindsofTime> as it says
[04:31] <nikrud> !compiz > krammer (see the pm)
[04:31] <Purcupt_> 16 lines of which 8 are commented out
[04:31] <Ashfire908> WndsofTime, try looking around on dell. otherwise you are out of luck
[04:31] <drate> should have a bunch of commented "# text and such" lines
[04:31] <WindsofTime> =\
[04:31] <drate> okay, are any of those 8 saying anythin about universe or multiverse?
[04:31] <Purcupt_> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[04:31] <Purcupt_> ## team.
[04:31] <nikrud> jerkface03, yes
[04:31] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, what post did you get the from
[04:32] <FireHazard17> one sec
[04:32] <krammer> hi
[04:32] <drate> okay, well, somewhere around there it should have a funny looking line with like... a web adress or something.
[04:32] <drate> and univierse as part of the address
[04:32] <Purcupt_> # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe ?
[04:32] <mneptok> WindsofTime: Xubuntu's keyboard handling is .... not robust.
[04:32] <drate> yeah....
[04:32] <drate> that's the one
[04:32] <Purcupt_> open in firefox ?
[04:32] <mneptok> WindsofTime: you might have more luck in #xubuntu
[04:32] <drate> uncomment that and anything that looks like it
[04:32] <jerkface03> nikrud: you sure? i can't find any references to it in /usr/include
[04:33] <drate> on, just uncomment those lines
[04:33] <nikrud> jerkface03, unless you're compiling, then you'll need libncurses5-dev
[04:33] <Purcupt_> ok done
[04:33] <Purcupt_> thats 2 lines uncommented
[04:33] <drate> you know, remove the "3"
[04:33] <jerkface03> there we go
[04:33] <drate> "#"
[04:33] <jerkface03> thank you :)
[04:33] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: http://tinyurl.com/2qqdmd
[04:33] <drate> ohkay... now after you've uncommented those kind of lines, save and exit
[04:33] <drate> then try that synaptic search again
[04:33] <drate> or else
[04:34] <Purcupt_> hmmm the save buttonsd remains disabled
[04:34] <nikrud> jerkface03, for compiling, do aptitude search lib+<baselibname> , and look at the -dev files. Finds the right one 90%+ of the time
[04:34] <drate> you gotta be kiddin me.
[04:34] <drate> okay
[04:34] <drate> grre
[04:34] <Purcupt_> I wish I was ... :)
[04:34] <drate> well, you can exit gedit
[04:34] <nikrud> drate, you need gksudo gedit
[04:34] <drate> try "sudo gedit /pathname/filename"
[04:34] <Purcupt_> ah wait
[04:34] <Purcupt_> I can save as
[04:35] <nikrud> drate, not a good idea to use sudo with gui programs, there're some permission issues
[04:35] <Purcupt_> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again
[04:35] <drate> really?
[04:35] <Flannel> gksu gedit nt sudo gedit
[04:35] <drate> Never gave me a problem.
[04:35] <aaronorosen> Hey
[04:35] <drate> well do what these dudes are saing then
[04:35] <thoreauputic> Purcupt_:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:35] <drate> that one
[04:35] <Purcupt_> ok sec
[04:36] <Paddy_EIRE> what is the 'DRM' folder in '/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16/drivers/char'
[04:36] <Purcupt_> ok done and saved
[04:36] <sethk> nikron, use ssh with X11 forwarding to create a root shell that can display on the X window.
[04:36] <cables> Damn, I'm scared... I'm installing Ubuntu on my grandmother's computer, and weird stuff is happening in the install process...
[04:36] <aaronorosen> I am having problem getting my sound working on my laptop i tried searching google but did not find anthing i dont think that there is anytthing wrong with my alsamixer settings
[04:36] <drate> ah, you did uncomment that stuff again before saving i assume
[04:36] <sethk> nikron, you ssh to your own machine as user root.
[04:36] <Purcupt_> yups
[04:36] <drate> ok, you guys that are listening in here
[04:36] <thoreauputic> Purcupt_: don't forget to run   sudo apt-get update  after saving the edited lidt
[04:36] <thoreauputic> *list
[04:36] <drate> is it apt-get update to update
[04:36] <drate> yes
[04:37] <drate> evidently it is
[04:37] <nikron> sethk: You got the wrong person
[04:37] <cables> Twice I've gotten "The partition can't be mounted" or something like that, and then Nautilus opens with the Windows drive showing... but the install does seem to be going normally.
[04:37] <drate> like he said, sudo apt-get update
[04:37] <sethk> nikron, sorry, tab completion  :)
[04:37] <drate> that'll update what files are available to you.
[04:37] <nikron> sethk: it happens =P
[04:37] <thoreauputic> drate: if you aren't sure, better not to "help" :)
[04:37] <Purcupt_> ok running it now
[04:37] <Dante123> how do you run nautilus so you have root access....what is the command?
[04:37] <drate> if he doesn't like my help he can certainly switch over to you
[04:37] <Purcupt_> package list read ... finished
[04:37] <drate> im just a bit rusty is all
[04:38] <aaronorosen> I am having problem getting my sound working on my laptop i tried searching google but did not find anthing i dont think that there is anytthing wrong with my alsamixer settings. Any ideas?
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Dante123: gksudo nautilus
[04:38] <thoreauputic> drate: it wasn't intended that way :)
[04:38] <Purcupt_> drate ... you are fantastic man !
[04:38] <Dante123> thanks...
[04:38] <drate> all right, anyhoo.. like I said, if you're siure of the package name.. I.e. ntfs-3g or whatever it might be
[04:38] <Purcupt_> and thanks thoreaputic too
[04:38] <drate> you can try "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[04:38] <Pie-rate> can gparted resize an ext3 partition?
[04:39] <Purcupt_> k gonna try
[04:39] <drate> or else you can go back to synaptic package manager and retry your search
[04:39] <gerald> Hey, I'm trying to figure out how to get sound on an Intel 82801G imbedded sound card? Does anyone have any experience with this?
[04:39] <cables> Purcupt_, hold on
[04:39] <cables> Purcupt_, are you trying to use your Windows partition in Ubuntu?
[04:39] <Purcupt_> yeah, windows crashes on the disk and I need o get the files of
[04:40] <Purcupt_> package installed
[04:40] <drate> oh really? all done is it?
[04:40] <Purcupt_> yup
[04:40] <drate> well, far as I know you should be good to go then
[04:40] <cables> Purcupt_, I don't like using Ubuntu LiveCDs for recovering Windows partitions... Knoppix is generally better for recovery work.
[04:40] <drate> Check any online readme's for the package if you like to dbl check uses.
[04:40] <Purcupt_> dude i'm allmost there :)
[04:40] <Nutubuntu> Pie-rate, http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[04:40] <Purcupt_> but thanks cables illremember it
[04:40] <drate> however, in the future, you might try using Puppy Linux
[04:41] <strabes> this is the craziest suspend/resume problem i've ever seen. Dell Inspiron E1705/9400. When I boot up on AC power it suspends and resumes fine when I close the lid. When I boot up on battery power it also suspends and resumes fine when I close the lid. However, when I boot up on AC power and unplug it, it doesn't suspend when the lid is closed. It doesn't even blank the screen. Has anyone experienced this strange behavior?
[04:41] <inaety> hello i am trying to install 704 but it is trying to download my package lists and well i have no internet connected..
[04:41] <drate> It's Uber-fast and great fot this sorta thing
[04:41] <inaety> how can i have it skipped?
[04:41] <cables> Purcupt_, if you've got an installed Ubuntu, the NTFS Configuration Manager in Add/Remove gives you a GUI for configuring ntfs-3g... but if someone here can help you with using it manually, then that's fine.
[04:41] <Purcupt_> there are so many linuxes and as a noob it's hard to know which one to take .. I hear a lot about ubuntu so I went with that one
[04:41] <drate> Gotcha
[04:41] <peepsalot> how do I enable GLX?
[04:41] <drate> Ubuntu is definitely made to be a desktop distro
[04:41] <nikrud> strabes, yes, but it's so close to perfect for this iteration, I'm all giggly
[04:42] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, sorry, i'm still trying to build it
[04:42] <drate> not so much for this use.... but whatever works
[04:42] <Pelo> strabes,  I suggest that you search your model in the forum , you are not the first one to mention someting along those lines
[04:42] <bruenig> there are many made to be desktop distros
[04:42] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: thats fine
[04:42] <cables> Purcupt_, well, Ubuntu is better as a desktop OS than Knoppix, and Knoppix is better as a recovery OS... but both can work.
[04:42] <Purcupt_> cables ok
[04:42] <drate> spekaing of which, is it working? can you write a file to your windows partition?
[04:42] <peepsalot> i mean, how do I enable XGL?
[04:42] <strabes> nikrud, Pelo: thanks
[04:42] <Purcupt_> havn't checke yet ... gonna do that right away ... strange thing is that my lacie disk is showing up twice on my desktop
[04:42] <wastrel> gerald:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=461794&highlight=intel+82801G
[04:43] <drate> Oh?
[04:43] <drate> lacie?
[04:43] <Purcupt_> external USb lacie
[04:43] <drate> You named your diskdrive lacie?
[04:43] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, if this enables sound on my system you will be my new best friend. lol
[04:43] <Purcupt_> where the files need to go to
[04:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Purcupt_: ubuntu is excellent choice...although in my opinion Linux Mint is better its basically ubuntu + all the multimedia stuff preinstalled and a very nice neat theme..very well rounded distro
[04:43] <Pie-rate> if i run "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda" will it copy my ubuntu partition and boot loader from my 80gb hard drive sdb to my 250gb hard drive sda, which i can then resize appropriately?
[04:43] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: i said the headset most likely wont work
[04:43] <ionstorm> i know there is supposedly no use for "prelink" in ubuntu but is it possible for a speed difference with it installed in feisty
[04:43] <drate> I heard about mint... does it really function that well?
[04:43] <Absenth> is there a way to theme the splash screen that covers the boot messages before GDM launches?  and if so what is that package/process called
[04:43] <bruenig> linux mint is pointless
[04:43] <Pelo> inaety, that is not a problem just make sure your installation cd is in the drive and it will get the packages from there
[04:43] <drate> Oh my, the debate ensues.
[04:43] <cables> bruenig, not pointless, but really, really annoying
[04:43] <Paddy_EIRE> drate: I wouldnt be without mint anymore
[04:44] <sethk> Pie-rate, the partition table will think it's an 80 gig, so you won't be able to resize.  Better to ...
[04:44] <Injen> Hey hey, I have found Knoppix always identifyies my hardware correctly. There is no other linux distro that config's x corretly from the jump.
[04:44] <Paddy_EIRE> drate: and its all I recommend to my friends and clients
[04:44] <drate> Anyhooo, Purcupt_ have you tried it yet?
[04:44] <sethk> Pie-rate, better to create an 80gb partition, then do the dd from sda1.
[04:44] <inaety> Pelo: i know but it's been chillin here for 20 minutes
[04:44] <Pelo> bruenig,  the point of linux mint is to grab credit for the work and effort of other ppl
[04:44] <sethk> Pie-rate, then expand it.
[04:44] <thoreauputic> guys - mint ---> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:44] <Purcupt_> damn ... the external USB drive is showing twivce averywhere
[04:44] <drate> I'll have to give it a shot then Paddy_EIRE
[04:44] <cables> The best part about Ubuntu is its community and professional support, you lose that with Mint
[04:44] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo: na, they give credit where its due
[04:44] <ionstorm> i heard pclinux os is better than ubuntu, i dont see how
[04:44] <Purcupt_> how do I know which one to copy to ?
[04:44] <sethk> Pie-rate, dd from sda1 on the 80 gig to sdb1 (assuming the second drive is sdb)
[04:44] <ionstorm> anyone know how
[04:44] <Pelo> inaety,  you need to   apt-get update after you put in the cd
[04:44] <Drk_Guy> Finally i got wine working
[04:44] <drate> Well, so it's there twice... but
[04:44] <sethk> ionstorm, "better" in that context is meaningless.
[04:45] <thoreauputic> mint is off-topic mmkay?
[04:45] <drate> more important is whether or not you can right to your hard-disk
[04:45] <Absenth> the application that masks the boot messages on ubuntu, AFTER grub BEFORE gdm is called what?
[04:45] <drate> either one
[04:45] <Purcupt_> damned, can't right to my lacie disk
[04:45] <ionstorm> sethk, yea, i think its better for newbs
[04:45] <Drk_Guy> Ares is working like a charm
[04:45] <cables> Absenth, usplash
[04:45] <Purcupt_> no rights
[04:45] <bruenig> thoreauputic loads his gun and threatens
[04:45] <Cr0w-> hi, i don't know which is better about partitions, i think i could make /, /home, /usr and swap..but i don't know if it is right or not, for desktop machine,if it is right, how much gb for each partition? (i have 150gb)
[04:45] <Absenth> cables: danke.
[04:45] <Paddy_EIRE> thoreauputic: how is it...its ubuntu
[04:45] <thoreauputic> bruenig: not really
[04:45] <inaety> Pelo, yes after i have my internet going...but right now i cant get it installed
[04:45] <drate> Hm... you might check online for some usage of ntfs-3g
[04:45] <thoreauputic> Paddy_EIRE: different distro = off topic
[04:45] <Pie-rate> sethk: will i need to reinstall the bootloader?
[04:45] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, Ubuntu + some stuff that's easily installable in ubuntu - the great support
[04:45] <drate> unless our man thoreauputic knows more about it?
[04:45] <sethk> ionstorm, I'm skeptical, but it could be.
[04:45] <Drk_Guy> drate: You don't need any docs on how to use it
[04:45] <cables> at any right, thoreauputic is right
[04:45] <nrdb> I have a named dns running on a computer on my local lan,  if I do a "dig linux.localdomain" I get an answer :)  but I would like to change the setup so if I do a "dig xyz.linux.localdomain" I get the same answer,  is this doable ?   anyone know where I can find info on doing it ?
[04:45] <drate> I remember installing it.
[04:45] <Paddy_EIRE> thoreauputic: it aint a different distro
[04:46] <Drk_Guy> It's a GUI app
[04:46] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, it is.
[04:46] <sethk> Pie-rate, to boot from the large disk, yes, but that's very easy to do.
[04:46] <ToddEDM> hey guys, some gparted help here if you could...i open it up, and i se the linux partition, the swap, and the storage partition... but i cant create a new one.. or resize any of the others
[04:46] <drate> I remember using it... I don't remember any major configuration though.
[04:46] <nikron> Absenth: what?
[04:46] <ToddEDM> any suggestions?
[04:46] <ionstorm> sethk, im skeptical to, but im not trying it hehe
[04:46] <nikron> err, wrong channel
[04:46] <Pelo> inaety, I thnk I am a bit confused ? you are doing a clean install wtih a live cd and it is trying to dl packages from the net ?  that doesn't sound right at all
[04:46] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, it's as much a different distro as Mepis is different than Ubuntu or Ubuntu is different from DEbian
[04:46] <sethk> Pie-rate, if the small disk is going to remain in the machine, then you don't have to reinstall the boot loader, just reconfigure it to boot from the new root partition.
[04:46] <thoreauputic> Paddy_EIRE: i won't argue with you - I have said what i wanted to say - if people continue to discuss other distros they will be gone
[04:46] <Purcupt_> it seems just a glitch that it's mounting twice
[04:46] <Paddy_EIRE> cables: thats silly you need to read a little more man
[04:46] <drate> Perhaps.
[04:46] <Purcupt_> should a worry about that ?
[04:47] <inaety> Pelo, i popped in the livecd, i am NOT connected to the internet but it says "downloading package lists..."
[04:47] <drate> Try writin to the other mounting
[04:47] <drate> maybe ntfs-3g remounted it
[04:47] <Injen> nrdb: If you onlt want to do it locally, edit your hosts file, hold up.
[04:47] <drate> so whichever you used to test-write... try the other one
[04:47] <Purcupt_> how do you make a new folder in the gui ?
[04:47] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, ok, i'm going to reboot
[04:47] <cables> Purcupt_, right click, create new folder?
[04:47] <drate> right click, new, folder
[04:47] <FireHazard17> Ashfire908: ok
[04:47] <eugman> Hey how do I make history last 2000 lines?
[04:47] <Purcupt_> nope
[04:48] <drate> nope?
[04:48] <cables> eugman, what history?
[04:48] <Purcupt_> dont have that option
[04:48] <strabes> ionstorm: it uses KDE by default; that's a start.
[04:48] <drate> Well bugger me
[04:48] <cables> Purcupt_, you must not have write access to the drive
[04:48] <eugman> cables, the history progam, it's a CLi program
[04:48] <drate> hey
[04:48] <drate> heeeeeeey
[04:48] <Purcupt_> how do i get right access
[04:48] <drate> i have a though my man
[04:48] <cables> eugman, ah, I'm not sure...
[04:48] <drate> goto console
[04:48] <nrdb> Injen: I know how to do that, I would like to do it via named.
[04:48] <eugman> cables, k
[04:48] <drate> type "sudo nautilus"
[04:48] <Flannel> drate: no.  gksu nautilus.
[04:48] <cables> drate, Purcupt_ gksudo
[04:49] <Pelo> inaety,  on an installed system ?  sorry If I'm making you repeat but I'm trying to figure it out,  I can tell you this,  on an installed system,  if you put in the live cd ( the first time you do it after the installation)  ubuntu will recognise it and try to add it to the list of repos  and update the package list accordingly,  is this what is going on ?
[04:49] <drate> Once again, never used gksudo before
[04:49] <drate> never had a problem, but go with their's
[04:49] <eugman> drate, no, bad! gksudo nautilus. Sudo on GUI programs especially KDE ones is bad
[04:49] <eugman> oh nvm
[04:49] <bruenig> especially kde?
[04:49] <drate> Neve EVER gave me a probelm man
[04:49] <ionstorm> strabes, start with kde? ouch why make things look like windows, why not look better than windows?  Also once ubuntu adds an option in the installer which gui to use ubuntu will be better
[04:49] <drate> I swear it, was just using it earlier
[04:49] <Flannel> drate: that doesn't mean it's safe
[04:49] <thoreauputic> !worksforme
[04:49] <ubot3> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:49] <drate> but as they'd have it
[04:49] <drate> go for it
[04:49] <drate> gksudo
[04:49] <winndixie> kde is bloated
[04:49] <winndixie> then again so is gnome
[04:49] <eugman> Bruenig, I did use kdesu on a kde program and it broke my system temporarilly
[04:50] <cables> Purcupt_, if you don't get this working (you probably will, but y'know) then try Knoppix, I find it a lot easier to write to drives and stuff with it
[04:50] <sethk> ionstorm, KDE doesn't look like windows.  there is an X window manager that looks like windows, but it isn't used with kde.
[04:50] <Drk_Guy> Why ndiswrapper isn't working?
[04:50] <eugman> er didn't use
[04:50] <ionstorm> I think ubuntu needs to get more support, and people need to mass distribute free cd's to radioshack or stores with dell computers
[04:50] <ionstorm> hehe
[04:50] <Absenth> I don't suppose any of you have run across a usplash, that looks similar to vista booting?  :)
[04:50] <Drk_Guy> sethk: That's JWM
[04:50] <strabes> ionstorm: kde doesn't look like windows any more than the default ubuntu gnome looks like OS X.
[04:50] <eugman> Bruenig, I mean did use kdesu
[04:50] <drate> have you "gksudo nautilus" yet?
[04:50] <sethk> Drk_Guy, ok.
[04:50] <Purcupt_> ok gksudo nautilus done
[04:50] <inaety> Pelo, no no there is no system..completely formatted system and all that it...i ticked Install, it's installed but now it wants to the final stuff (grub, etc etc) and one of those is download the package lists for apt-get however i dont have the internet running, thus the connection should time out after like a minute or whatever and it's well not.  it's still responding and everything just not continuing the install
[04:50] <bruenig> eugman, the problems that arise from it are not de specific by any means
[04:50] <strabes> ionstorm: I don't use KDE because of its looks. I use it because it's more customizable and powerful than gnome.
[04:50] <drate> okay, find your harddrive from there
[04:51] <Drk_Guy> Guys, why ndiswrapper isn't working=?
[04:51] <ionstorm> sethk, I use kde now and then, it just seems bloated, the menus are a mess, although once configured properly i guess it should be ok
[04:51] <drate> your windows drive
[04:51] <bruenig> !doesn't work | Drk_Guy
[04:51] <ubot3> Drk_Guy: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[04:51] <drate> Drk_guy what is it doing?
[04:51] <Purcupt_> all my disk have a locked icon
[04:51] <drate> really?
[04:51] <drate> that sucks
[04:51] <drate> try 'em anyway
[04:51] <Drk_Guy> bash told me it couldn't find ndiswrapper
[04:51] <drate> just for kicks
[04:51] <bruenig> !enter | drate
[04:51] <ubot3> drate: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:51] <sethk> ionstorm, I prefer KDE, but I agree it's resource intensive.
[04:51] <eugman> Bruenig, well it broke a kde related file. I haven't had an issue with sudo breaking Gnome so far
[04:51] <Drk_Guy> But it was apt-get able
[04:51] <Drk_Guy> So installed ndiswrapper-common
[04:52] <bruenig> eugman, it doesn't break gnome per se, it just creates permission problems
[04:52] <wastrel> permission problems!
[04:52] <strabes> ionstorm: the only reason the menus are a mess is because you probably installed kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu-desktop, so it shows all of the gnome apps in the kde menus. Besides, the menus are something that is so easily editable and configurable.
[04:52] <RadiantFire> Drk_Guy: install ndiswrapper-utils
[04:52] <ionstorm> sethk, KDE needs more improvment, once it improves with the resources and organization i'll use it daily
[04:52] <drate> no change Purcupt_?
[04:52] <Pelo> inaety,  I think I get see what is happening but I have no idea what is going on , sorry,  everyting you need should be on the live cd it shouldn'T be trying to connect to the internet to install anything, even if your computer was connected
[04:52] <strabes> ionstorm: KDE4 will rock amazingly hard
[04:52] <Drk_Guy> But now "Error: no versions of ndiswrapper found!
[04:52] <Drk_Guy> Error: no versions of ndiswrapper found!
[04:52] <Drk_Guy> Error: no versions of ndiswrapper found!
[04:52] <Purcupt_> I tried changing the permission but couldn't change them
[04:53] <Drk_Guy> Sorry for (accidentaly) flooding
[04:53] <ionstorm> strabes, i'll definately give it a try
[04:53] <Drk_Guy> RadiantFire: I'll try it
[04:53] <drate> well, I am sure you have officially exhausted my very limited usefulness.
[04:53] <cables> Purcupt_, my advice is to try Knoppix...
[04:53] <Purcupt_> I can change file acces but not folder access drate
[04:53] <winndixie> hey guys
[04:53] <winndixie> i'm gay
[04:53] <drate> That's everything I remember doing myself.
[04:53] <cables> Purcupt_, have you tried sudo mkdir in the terminal?
[04:53] <bruenig>  mkfolder
[04:53] <Drk_Guy> RadiantFire: It tells -utils have been replaced by -common
[04:53] <cables> bruenig, eh?
[04:53] <inaety> Pelo: good news, i fixed the wifi we're good now
[04:53] <thoreauputic> winndixie: off-topic is --> that way
[04:53] <bruenig> cables, ubuntu out to alias that
[04:54] <bruenig> ought*
[04:54] <Purcupt_> no not yet
[04:54] <bruenig> the term directory confuses people
[04:54] <winndixie> yah
[04:54] <drate> It confuses people who don't work with command line
[04:54] <Pelo> winndixie, I'm sure there are channels for you on other networks,  this one is mostly for technical support and developpement
[04:54] <RadiantFire> Drk_Guy: thats strange
[04:54] <drate> who probably wouldn't be using the terminal anyway
[04:54] <Drk_Guy> Indeed
[04:54] <RadiantFire> Drk_Guy: can you override and install -utils anyway?
[04:55] <drate> But no command-line dude would question mkdir
[04:55] <Purcupt_> I'm getting lost with all the windows
[04:55] <Purcupt_> I' used to 3 screens :)
[04:55] <Drk_Guy> Nope
[04:55] <wastrel> sigh directory
[04:55] <RadiantFire> dunno
[04:55] <Drk_Guy> I have no such offering
[04:55] <wastrel> alias it to what?
[04:55] <drate> Well, Purpcupt_ I'd say try knoppix or Puppy Linux or something like that.
[04:55] <zorze> i am in softmodem hell
[04:55] <bruenig> knoppix is kind of crazy, I used it the other day, it is loaded down with so much stuff it is absurd
[04:55] <winndixie> oh
[04:55] <drate> My favorite is Puppy Linux
[04:56] <wastrel> alias make-a-new-folder="mkdir"
[04:56] <drate> It's what I'm using.
[04:56] <cables> bruenig, yeah, but it's great for fixing systems if you're not too familiar with the cli
[04:56] <bruenig> wastrel, absolutely
[04:56] <zorze> knoppix was my first nix
[04:56] <Drk_Guy> Puppy is really cool for lappys but it's packages are really hard to find
[04:56] <drate> So far it's the only OS I can consistenly ge to work for me.
[04:56] <Injen> Try knoppix STD :)
[04:56] <Jak08> why would ubuntu stop being able to read .jpegs and .png?
[04:56] <Injen> Whoops.
[04:56] <zorze> tbh i was a little disapointed in the amount of programs in the ubunto package after using it
[04:56] <Purcupt_> naah , gonna find it :)
[04:56] <cccvvvppp> http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=617572
[04:56] <cccvvvppp> lol
[04:56] <Drk_Guy> If you choose Pupplinux, find packages for puppy in www.dotpups.de/dotpups
[04:56] <bruenig> Jak08, you mean applications
[04:56] <drate> Ubuntu Edgy I was able to create a howto for my wireless card based on about 3 other howto's for other cards.
[04:56] <Purcupt_> after all the trouble you guys did to get me here
[04:56] <Jak08> no i mean period
[04:57] <cables> Hey, how do I add a panel to XFCE? It doesn't seem to have one by default in Xubuntu 7.04...
[04:57] <Jak08> the files are there but it won't read them
[04:57] <peepsalot> where is the file that holds the session options for gdm?
[04:57] <Jak08> the desktop included
[04:57] <drate> With feisty though, all my work went down the drain.
[04:57] <bruenig> Jak08, your conception of what "ubuntu" is is off I think
[04:57] <Drk_Guy> peepsalot: Maybe in /home/.gnome
[04:57] <drate> I hate when upgrading disables usefulness.
[04:57] <Drk_Guy> =?
[04:57] <jherrera> does anyone know how to create automatically Makefiles?
[04:57] <Jak08> well, it is still not reading them in anything, my icons stoped working to so i had to change them
[04:57] <drate> I mean really, I could have used windows for that.
[04:58] <kidbuntu> is kde's desktop much more lighter than GNOME?
[04:58] <sutabi> kidbuntu: thes the opposite
[04:58] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu: about the same really
[04:58] <Drk_Guy> No kidbuntu
[04:58] <bruenig> jherrera, if you find something, tell me, I always assumed you wrote them by hand considering just how custom they need to be for every package
[04:58] <sethk> kidbuntu, no, similar.
[04:58] <sethk> kidbuntu, perhaps even a bit heavier
[04:58] <Pelo> Drk_Guy,  after all I had to do to get you going the first time around you left ?
[04:58] <drate> So Purcupt_ what's your next step you think?
[04:58] <thoreauputic> kidbuntu: xfce4 ( xubuntu) is lighter
[04:58] <Jak08> and emerald won't start, and neither will AWN all stopped at the exact same time, I did't even install anything or mess with anything to screw it up
[04:58] <cables> kidbuntu, on an older system, probably the opposite... but on a new system, you wouldn't notice it. XFCE (Xubuntu) is lighter than both, though.
[04:58] <Drk_Guy> But now i have a lil' more experience
[04:58] <wastrel> jherrera:  does eclipse or anjuta do that?
[04:58] <lhot> hello everyone!
[04:58] <kidbuntu> ok thanks everyone
[04:58] <Drk_Guy> I have been carrying my problems alone
[04:59] <lhot> i need some sound card help
[04:59] <Purcupt_> drate i get the message that its a read only disk so Im gonna look for something about that
[04:59] <Pelo> Drk_Guy,  at the end of the day and all that
[04:59] <Injen> KDE is huge compared to Gnome :/ But yea, on a good system, you wont notice a difference.
[04:59] <DQuestions> where dohi
[04:59] <SineFato> is xubuntu worth it other then having less of system fingerprint?
[04:59] <DQuestions> sorry
[04:59] <Drk_Guy> ....
[04:59] <DQuestions> heh
[04:59] <sutabi> Anyone here can help me get my Ethernet controller working again, some reason it just stopped working I didn't do anything to it either.. just turned the computer off and as soonas it turned on the eth0 was gone from the network list
[04:59] <jherrera> bruenig, I use qmake from Qt to handle C++ Makefiles, but I haven't seen anything for C yet
[04:59] <Drk_Guy> 
[04:59] <drate> Well, that does confuse me... if I could have I'd have gone through those steps with you to make sure there wasn't something I missed.
[04:59] <SineFato> does it have any really cool extra things
[04:59] <DQuestions> In this age of Ubuntu.... how hard is it to get Wine to work?
[04:59] <Pelo> lhot,  we need more specific statements
[04:59] <sutabi> my list is green for the connection in th eback...
[04:59] <bruenig> SineFato, xubuntu is risky because it is hardly tested, xfce is very good though, that is all I use
[04:59] <thoreauputic> SineFato: depends what you like and how powerful your hardware is
[04:59] <lockd> one may run X apps in a screenrc?
[05:00] <drate> I haven't been able to access the internet since I upgraded to Feisty, so I've been exclusively Puppy since then.
[05:00] <Drk_Guy> !wine > DQuestions
[05:00] <DQuestions> like for example getting ms word and excel up and running
[05:00] <Purcupt_> drate I know man, I very thankfull for the help you gave me
[05:00] <w30> Drk_Guy, Yeah me too, I tried Ubuntu then PCLinuxOS and after buying a Dell E1505n with Ubuntu I switched the desktop box back to Ubuntu just to keep  things the same
[05:00] <drate> before you go, let me do a quick google on ntfs-3g
[05:00] <lhot> i have a sigmatel stac 9250
[05:00] <DQuestions> Drk_Guy I know what wine is
[05:00] <SineFato> I have a intel core 2 duo 1.88, and a gig of memory
[05:00] <Jak08> to work? I never had problems getting it to work, getting programs running on it, I have had problems with :)
[05:00] <lhot> it used to work
[05:00] <Bogus8> so ubuntu verifies the users pass to do root level things?
[05:00] <lhot> now it doesnt
[05:00] <cables> Bogus8, yes
[05:00] <Drk_Guy> There are special Office stuff for Wien
[05:00] <Pelo> !sound | lhot
[05:00] <ubot3> lhot: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:00] <Drk_Guy> *Wine
[05:00] <zorze> how do i edit a file as root in fiesty fawn?
[05:00] <nikrud> !rootsudo > Bogus8 (see the pm)
[05:00] <Bogus8> cables: that seems sort of insecure
[05:01] <lockd> !sudo | zorze
[05:01] <ubot3> zorze: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:01] <cables> Bogus8, it's not, because every user has different sudo permissions
[05:01] <Bogus8> nikrud: I'm aware of sudo.. I come from debian
[05:01] <Pelo> zorze,   gksu gedit /pathtofile/filename
[05:01] <cables> Bogus8, which means that only certain users can use their password to do things as root
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Bogaurd: read the page ubot3 sent you
[05:01] <Drk_Guy> Gotta reboot
[05:01] <Drk_Guy> Laters
[05:01] <cables> Bogus8, It's way better than handing out the root password to anyone who you want to have root access.
[05:01] <SineFato> will 'sudo apt-get install wine' work?
[05:01] <zorze> thx
[05:01] <Bogus8> cables: agreed with that... I guess I'm just used to setting that up myself and it not being default
[05:01] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, how do i know if it worked?
[05:01] <drate> OHHHHHH
[05:02] <lockd> Does ubuntu come with gksu already set to use sudo?
[05:02] <drate> Purpcupt_
[05:02] <nikrud> Bogus8, so did I, that's where I started with sudo
[05:02] <drate> Purcupt_
[05:02] <cables> lockd, yep
[05:02] <drate> you there?
[05:02] <Purcupt_> drate yup
[05:02] <lockd> Because I installed Kubuntu and had to set the super-user-command=sudo
[05:02] <drate> no wonder, there is quite a bit more
[05:02] <Purcupt_> hehehe
[05:02] <drate>  here I'mma send you the link
[05:02] <Purcupt_> just found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=486180
[05:02] <Bogus8> nikrud: I'm just not used to having such things done automatically... it certainly confused me
[05:02] <drate> I must have used the autoconfig
[05:02] <drate> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[05:02] <SineFato> will 'sudo apt-get install wine' work?
[05:02] <drate> Like I said, it's been a while.
[05:02] <sicscam> does anyone know to make the logitech lx700 mouse back button work ?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> SineFato: yes
[05:03] <Pelo> SineFato,  yes
[05:03] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, nm, i see it in the logs
[05:03] <nikrud> Bogus8, I can understand that, I was suprised I didn't ;)
[05:03] <SineFato> Cool thanks
[05:03] <Injen> SineFato: use sudo aptitude install wine
[05:03] <cables> Bogus8, well, Ubuntu is different from Debian... it's meant for people who don't necessarily have the computer knowledge necessary to set up and use something like Debian. It's better for some people, but for others it imposes too much control on the user.
[05:03] <Purcupt_> ok gonna check it out
[05:03] <Injen> Try to use aptitude when you can.
[05:03] <bruenig> Injen, either will work
[05:03] <drate> I think between those two pages you should find teh missing links
[05:03] <lockd> I have actually found Ubuntu to be much more compile friendly than Gentoo
[05:03] <drate> ever so sorry for not doing that before hand
[05:03] <Injen> Yea, but your more likely to remove all packages with aptitude.
[05:03] <bruenig> lockd, what?
[05:04] <bruenig> Injen, incorrect
[05:04] <Ashfire908> FireHazard17, it didn't work. no sound device
[05:04] <lockd> bruenig: yes, despite the fact that Gentoo has no concept of a -dev package
[05:04] <Bogus8> cables: yeah... I've always started from the ground up with any installation... but this time I figured I'd see what it's like to go with a default
[05:04] <zorze> so if i use sudo /path/textfile   will that open it with the default text editor or run it?
[05:04] <thoreauputic> SineFato: you'll need the universe repo to apt-get install wine
[05:04] <bruenig> lockd, you don't find -dev annoying as hell
[05:04] <nikrud> Bogus8, and all the usual config options are still there.
[05:04] <Bogus8> not sure I like having so many packages installed by default.... I like being able to select a more basic start and build from there
[05:04] <SineFato> thoreauptic: say what
[05:04] <drate> well, anyway, unless anyone here wants a date with a demi-geek or else can help me fix my wireless Feisty issue... I think I'm out.
[05:04] <bruenig> Bogus8, get the server
[05:05] <Purcupt_> wow thats confusing they are explaning ntfs-3g for several bracnhes ?
[05:05] <cables> Bogus8, again, it's designed for a very different audience :)
[05:05] <thoreauputic> SineFato: wine is in the universe repsitory - have you enabled that?
[05:05] <Pelo> zorze,  you need an editor in there ,  gksu gedit /path/file or  some other editor of your choice
[05:05] <drate> Yeah, I would go for Edgy, it' sthe closes you'd come to
[05:05] <Bogus8> bruenig: well, I wanted the desktop enviroment but not things like gimp and open office (though I would install those personally)
[05:05] <lockd> bruenig: it is annoying but it's not a real problem
[05:05] <drate> Unless they have an explanation for Feisty.
[05:05] <nikrud> rflol, it's too eaaasssy :(
[05:05] <lockd> bruenig: I just pull in kde's devs and I get most everything I will need
[05:05] <SineFato> thoreauputic: not intentionally
[05:06] <drate> Anyhoo, it's late, I'm out, I spec you can figure yourself out from here.... http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyLinuxMainPage
[05:06] <cables> Bogus8, you're right, for all the talk about Windows' bloat, Ubuntu's actually much worse... although the default installed programs are a lot more useful than the ones Windows has. At any rate, I use them all, so I don't mind it.
[05:06] <lockd> Bogus8: use the alternate install and you can choose
[05:06] <drate> have fun
[05:06] <Bogus8> cables: yeah... I see that... not sure about this yet... but I'm gonna give it a go for a while... is there anyway to do a "custom" install like debian... where you choose packages upon install?
[05:06] <jherrera> wastrel, dunno, I don't use anjuta, do you?
[05:06] <thoreauputic> SineFato: go to System - Administration - Software Sources and enable community sources ( or just eanble everything)
[05:06] <lockd> cables: well, windows doesn't come by default with a full office package
[05:06] <wastrel> jherrera:  no :] 
[05:06] <SineFato> thoreauputic: ok cool thanks
[05:06] <cables> Bogus8, I'm not sure... Ubuntu wasn't really designed as a tinkerer's distro.
[05:06] <lhot> alrighty im confused
[05:06] <bruenig> Bogus8, you might want to go with another distro
[05:06] <Bogus8> lockd: how does that work.. I tried looking at all the F2 options I just didn't really see anything obvious
[05:07] <cables> lockd, exactly... so it has less bloat. Although ubuntu's bloat is better bloat :)
[05:07] <nikrud> Bogus8, use the server cd and go that way
[05:07] <Injen> Is aptitude not better at removing dependencies?
[05:07] <zorze> Pelo- so gksu would be the file editor right?
[05:07] <bruenig> Injen, it is not
[05:07] <Injen> Or are they just claiming a hype?
[05:07] <nikrud> Injen, if you installed with aptitude
[05:07] <wastrel> the alternate install is a separate disk
[05:07] <cables> Injen, it's the same as apt-get autoremove... although it does have some better dependency resolution beyond just dependency removal.
[05:07] <Bogus8> wastrel: ah
[05:07] <bruenig> Injen, I dont' know who "they" are, but if "they" are saying that, "they" are wrong
[05:07] <lockd> I would advise the alternate CD, then you can grab server or whatever you might want
[05:07] <Pelo> zorze,   gksu is like sudo for graphical applications,     gedit is a graphical text editor
[05:07] <wastrel> the server disk doesn't include X or the desktop environments
[05:07] <varun0> Bogus8: you could always just uninstall by hand :-) through synaptic
[05:07] <bruenig> Bogus8, you should try arch
[05:08] <zorze> oh, i see
[05:08] <Injen> So the writer of aptidude re-invented the wheel for no reason. :P
[05:08] <Injen> Screw it,
[05:08] <nikrud> cables, is autoremove something recent? (like last couple years)
[05:08] <Injen> I use aptitude.
[05:08] <Injen> :)
[05:08] <cables> nikron, I'm not sure...
[05:08] <Injen> And never have any problems removing all packages.
[05:08] <cables> Injen, so do I
[05:08] <Injen> On debian I used to go through hell with apt-get.
[05:08] <Bogus8> bruenig: well, I like the idea of having a broad user base and there for more prebuilt packages availible
[05:08] <Bogus8> just not preinstalled ;)
[05:08] <varun0> bruenig: sorry. You know what I mean. LOL
[05:09] <Bogus8> varun0: I'm thinking about it ;)
[05:09] <Micawber> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with the installation process?
[05:09] <GuidOxD> xD
[05:09] <bruenig> Bogus8, there are 9000 prebuilt packages in the repositories and thousands more the the user repository
[05:09] <lockd> Micawber: are you having a problem with some step?
[05:09] <GuidOxD> algum Brasil na sala?
[05:09] <nikrud> !br
[05:09] <ubot3> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:09] <GuidOxD> algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:09] <Bogus8> bruenig: you talking about ubuntu right?
[05:09] <bruenig> Bogus8, arch
[05:09] <Bogus8> bruenig: and by comparison how many are there in ubuntu?
[05:09] <bruenig> Bogus8, it installs base system, you use binary package manager to get whatever else
[05:09] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:09] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:09] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:09] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:10] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:10] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:10] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:10] <Micawber> Yes, the first one. I just downloaded the ISO and burned it to a CD whenever it tries to boot from CD it just jumps back into Windows. Also, in Windows, the autoplay tells me that a file cannot be found.
[05:10] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:10] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:10] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:10] <bruenig> !ops
[05:10] <ubot3> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:10] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:10] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala?
[05:10] <GuidOxD> ?algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sala??algum brasileiro na sal
[05:10] <Pelo> GuidOxD,  /join #ubuntu-br
[05:10] <cables> Pelo, lol
[05:10] <varun0> what does that even mean?
[05:10] <bruenig> Bogus8, its hard to compare because ubuntu separates headers into different packages
[05:10] <Injen> What a maroon.
[05:10] <lockd> that was a kick right
[05:10] <Micawber> Yes, the first one. I just downloaded the ISO and burned it to a CD whenever it tries to boot from CD it just jumps back into Windows. Also, in Windows, the autoplay tells me that a file cannot be found.
[05:10] <cables> lockd, nope, it was a remove
[05:11] <SineFato> where does stuff go after Apt-Get ing it? It's not in the applications menu
[05:11] <bruenig> Bogus8, so nearly every package has another -dev package, whereas arch just puts them together like sane people, so ubuntu really has about half of what it would show
[05:11] <Bogus8> bruenig: but I would imagine with the user base that ubuntu has it must have the biggest repos of binaries
[05:11] <MasterShrek> Micawber, #windows
[05:11] <Micawber> I checked the md5sum and the ISO was fine... just wondering if anyone had any ideas...?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> lockd: kick ban actually
[05:11] <Micawber> thanks
[05:11] <cables> SineFato, depends on what it is... most GUI apps end up in the Apps menu, some don't and have to be called from the command line.
[05:11] <varun0> SineFato: it doesn't always have to be. It might be in /usr/bin or something
[05:11] <MasterShrek> :P
[05:11] <MasterShrek> Micawber, is your bios set to boot from cd?
[05:11] <SineFato> where does wine go? and I've done it for a couple games and they never showed up
[05:11] <Pelo> SineFato,  depends what the app is,  you don't generaly get wine entries in the menus ( you do with the winehq repos)  wine isn't a usable app, it's use to run somemething else
[05:12] <bruenig> Bogus8, last time I checked it had 18,000 or so, which you cut in half and you are right around the same, also have to recognize the existence of quite a few meta packages which fill up even more space
[05:12] <lockd> SineFato: where does wine store the files?
[05:12] <MasterShrek> SineFato, ~/.wine/drive_c
[05:12] <Micawber> Yes. I made sure of that.
[05:12] <Purcupt_> how come I have an underscore behind my name ?
[05:12] <lockd> is there any problem with separate user for Wine?
[05:12] <Bogus8> bruenig: I'm definitely going to check it out
[05:12] <MasterShrek> Micawber, does it even try to boot from the cd?
[05:12] <MasterShrek> Micawber, could be a bad burn too, or even a bad image
[05:13] <cables> Purcupt_, because it seems like you tried to use a nick that someone else was using... or maybe you were using it on a different client. Try /nick Purcupt
[05:13] <Bogus8> what gets updated from a default 7.04 install that requires a reboot?
[05:13] <Bogus8> kernel I hope
[05:13] <MasterShrek> yea kernel bogus
[05:13] <Micawber> It tries and fails. I checked the image against the the hash file and it is fine.
[05:13] <bruenig> Bogus8, kernel is the only thing that ever requires reboot
[05:13] <Purcupt_> yeah tried it already but didn't change anything
[05:13] <MasterShrek> -15 to -16
[05:13] <Bogus8> MasterShrek: coo
[05:13] <Bogus8> l
[05:13] <winndixie> i'll pop a cat in your ass foo
[05:13] <Bogus8> bruenig: word
[05:13] <bruenig> ubuntu is still using .20 right?
[05:13] <MasterShrek> what did you burn it with?
[05:13] <Pelo> lockd,  they would have to  winecfg to setup their own .wine filetree in their own  /home folder
[05:13] <MasterShrek> yes bruenig
[05:13] <MasterShrek> 22.2 came out today
[05:14] <Micawber> Its the Roxio burning setup that comes with XP I believe.
[05:14] <Micawber> It's sort of built in.
[05:14] <cables> Micawber, Roxio doesn't come with XP...
[05:14] <lockd> Pelo: how so? I am talking about a shared Wine user who anyone with group wine can access
[05:14] <SineFato> sorry for so much crap questions but is wine used for installing and running windows aps?
[05:14] <Purcupt_> btw how do you automplete name ... tab doesn't seem to work here
[05:14] <MasterShrek> nope it doesnt Micawber
[05:14] <cables> SineFato, yep, but it doesn't work with everything
[05:14] <MasterShrek> Micawber, try burning it with alcohol or nero if you can
[05:14] <varun0> SineFato: the winehq.org website has a compatibility database
[05:14] <MasterShrek> i dont know how good roxio is, ive never used it
[05:14] <Pelo> lockd, if the /home folder is shared then there wouldn't be a problem I guess
[05:15] <Micawber> Its made by the Roxio company... Either way it is the burning system built into windows...
[05:15] <lockd> SineFato: and it's also not an emulator, so you will need a system which supports the actual PE code
[05:15] <cables> Purcupt_, it should be... you're using Xchat-gnome.
[05:15] <zorze> i used nero free for my iso and it worked fine
[05:15] <zorze> try that
[05:15] <Micawber> ok, thanks
[05:15] <Injen> ^ aye
[05:15] <cables> Micawber, since when does XP include Roxio? All it came with for me was a crap file burner, it couldn't even erase discs.
[05:15] <bruenig> unless you need bluray or hddvd, there is no reason to have nero on linux
[05:15] <MasterShrek> xp's burning software is made by roxio
[05:16] <MasterShrek> i forgot that until Micawber said it
[05:16] <JKirk_> Help!!! I just installed ubuntu and my colors are a mess.  When I start firefox, I can't see hardly anything unless I drag a selection box around the text to invert it... can anyone help me?
[05:16] <lockd> is there a way to write bluray or hddvd without nero?
[05:16] <Purcupt_> tab gives me a list of all the users online which is a huge list
[05:16] <zorze> i was using windows at teh time ^^
[05:16] <MasterShrek> JKirk_, system > preferences
[05:16] <Injen> Micawber: make sure to burn "Image" to disc. Don't burn a regular data cd.
[05:16] <Micawber> ok
[05:16] <Purcupt_> how do I cancel an  upgrade
[05:16] <JKirk_> MasterShrek, ok...then?
[05:16] <Purcupt_> nevermind its finished
[05:16] <Micawber> Ok, I'll give it another shot.
[05:16] <Injen> Is it MasterShrek? I did not know that :)
[05:16] <Juno> can anyone tell me why when I put the command on the nvidia site to install the display driver it doesnt work?
[05:17] <MasterShrek> JKirk_, theme
[05:17] <Pelo> JKirk_,   do you mean your monitor and video card are freaking out or do you mean you have a crappy theme ?
[05:17] <MasterShrek> yea i believe so Injen
[05:17] <MasterShrek> JKirk_, customize button and colors
[05:17] <JKirk_> I installed ubuntu ultimate 1.4
[05:17] <MasterShrek> wtf is that?
[05:17] <Injen> :P
[05:17] <lockd> it's an unsupported distro
[05:17] <bruenig> MasterShrek, linux mint 2.0
[05:17] <JKirk_> I tried changing themes but while everyting else changed, the colors in the boxes didn't :(
[05:17] <MasterShrek> hmm
[05:18] <xxKittie27xx> there are alot of people here
[05:18] <xxKittie27xx> =)
[05:18] <Pelo> MasterShrek, someone make an install cd pack with a but load of software that installs by default for no reason , basicaly
[05:18] <JKirk_> http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate
[05:18] <winndixie> which race is superior?
[05:18] <winndixie> i want to know which is race is most important
[05:18] <Purcupt_> drate ... I did su root ... it's asking the password ... is there a default one ?
[05:18] <Pelo> !ops | winndixie
[05:18] <ubot3> winndixie: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:18] <bruenig> !ops | winndixie
[05:18] <Lunis> Is there a way to see what programs are accessing a particular drive, especially a removable one?
[05:19] <JKirk_> Juno, I'm using nvidia drivers... maybe i can help?
[05:19] <winndixie> im gay!
[05:19] <Juno> iunno
[05:19] <waylan> wow
[05:19] <waylan> lol
[05:19] <rob> sigh
[05:19] <Injen> winndixie is asking for it
[05:19] <MasterShrek> Purcupt_, definately not, you would have made your root password when u installed
[05:19] <Injen> asked* for it.
[05:19] <waylan> hey can someone help a brother out
[05:19] <kyncani> Hi, is it just me or is ubotu dead ?
[05:19] <Juno> I downloaded the driver from nvidia's website, I go to terminal and put in the "sh" command and it says it can't do it
[05:19] <wastrel> !ubotu
[05:19] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:19] <Purcupt_> i guessed there wasn't one but I'm runnig from bootable disk so no instalation
[05:19] <elkbuntu> Injen, winndixie got it good, so run along now, nothing to see
[05:19] <Pelo> waylan,  we need you to ask a question
[05:19] <Kousotu> !unfobot
[05:19] <ubot3> Factoid unfobot not found
[05:19] <waylan> i need to get my wireless card on my inspiron 6400 working
[05:20] <JKirk_> Juno,  you have to do it as root
[05:20] <bruenig> Juno, you cannot have X running
[05:20] <Kousotu> !infobot
[05:20] <ubot3> Factoid infobot not found
[05:20] <waylan> and fix my graphics
[05:20] <kyncani> wastrel: thanks :)
[05:20] <Kousotu> lol
[05:20] <JKirk_> and you CAn't have x running
[05:20] <Injen> I'm da police, this is my crime scene.
[05:20] <Injen> :P
[05:20] <MasterShrek> Purcupt_, do a sudo su
[05:20] <Juno> ah...
[05:20] <waylan> to 1200 x 800
[05:20] <Juno> roger that
[05:20] <Purcupt_> mastershrek ok
[05:20] <Juno> brb I'll try that.  thanks!
[05:20] <Pelo> !wifi | waylan
[05:20] <ubot3> waylan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:20] <JKirk_> so to do it in ubuntu, you have to hit ctrl-alt-f1 and then log in... then you have to do ps -aux and find the gdm services and do a kill
[05:20] <kidbuntu> anyone here who knows how to trace a java file?
[05:20] <nalioth> Purcupt_: there is no root password
[05:20] <JKirk_> then you can install the manual driver
[05:20] <nalioth> !tell Purcupt_ about root
[05:21] <waylan> thanks for the link
[05:21] <Injen> kidbuntu: trace, having a meaning similar to find?
[05:21] <waylan> anyone know about intel graphics on here
[05:21] <waylan> ???
[05:21] <MasterShrek> JKirk_, yes but you can just run /etc/init.d/gdm stop to stop your gdm
[05:21] <Pelo> waylan,  anyting specific you need to know ?
[05:21] <Kousotu> !hi kyncani
[05:21] <ubot3> Factoid hi kyncani not found
[05:21] <hubuntu_______> Hi people
[05:21] <Kousotu> lol
[05:22] <elkbuntu> !botabuse
[05:22] <ubot3> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:22] <Kousotu> oops forgot a |
[05:22] <waylan> i need to get my resolution to 1200x800 this 1024x768 is killing my eyes
[05:22] <Purcupt_> why not tell percept about root ?
[05:22] <Pelo> Kousotu,  if you don'T knwo how to use the bot please don'T
[05:22] <Purcupt_> purcupt
[05:22] <JKirk_> MasterShrek, oh NOW you tell me ;)
[05:22] <Kousotu> Pelo: I do
[05:22] <hubuntu_______> I have a rather odd question.... Long story short I need to boot the Ubuntu Live CD from lilo... anyone?
[05:22] <Kousotu> I goofed up
[05:22] <osxdude|laptop> !upgrade
[05:22] <ubot3> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:22] <kidbuntu> Injen: I don't know. I downloaded an opensource framework. I'm using eclipse and i wanted to trace which java file is the one making the particular program work
[05:22] <JKirk_> ok... I think I've got the colors better now...thanks MasterShrek
[05:22] <osxdude|laptop> !jf
[05:22] <ubot3> Factoid jf not found
[05:22] <osxdude|laptop> ubot3 is under an update
[05:22] <ubot3> osxdude|laptop: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[05:22] <Pelo> waylan,  in the terminal  type  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and add the resolutions you need to the list,  follow the syntax carefullty, save and restart X
[05:22] <ca1> running aplay -l I get an error of no sound card detected but my sound card is listed with sudo aplay -l and I am unable to hear anything while I can hear and play music for instance through sudo rhythmbox. Can anyone plleasse help me??
[05:22] <DDragon> kidbuntu: so you want to locate the file on you computer?
[05:23] <osxdude|laptop> i was right
[05:23] <kidbuntu> DDragon: yes!.
[05:23] <waylan> thanks
[05:23] <saul_> ola!
[05:23] <thoreauputic> cal check if you are in the audio group
[05:23] <JKirk_> is there a good place to get more themes for ubuntu?
[05:23] <Injen> err, kidbuntu, I don't know how to help you.
[05:23] <Pelo> !theme | JKirk_
[05:23] <ubot3> JKirk_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:23] <ca1> thoreauputic:  I am in the audio group, I checked that already.
[05:24] <JKirk_> thanks
[05:24] <JKirk_> how come no one seems to know about ubuntu ultimate edition?
[05:24] <JKirk_> it rocks!
[05:24] <kidbuntu> DDragon: not exactly locate. with the program running will i be able to find which java file is the one making the program work
[05:24] <JKirk_> has compiz fusion built-in and lots of software...
[05:24] <coopster> kidbuntu, try running ps -Af |grep java
[05:24] <Pelo> JKirk_,  ubuntu ultimate edition is not an official ubuntu release, it is someone's idea of a bad joke,  it is realy pointless
[05:25] <kidbuntu> coopster: running that in where?\
[05:25] <JKirk_> bad joke?  howso?  I'm using it now and it's wonderful
[05:25] <kidbuntu> coopster: terminal?
[05:25] <coopster> kidbuntu, yep
[05:25] <JKirk_> based on the official ubuntu and has lots of extras
[05:25] <Flannel> JKirk_: compiz-fusion is easy enough to add.  As is all the software included.  And you don't get stuck with no-support and automatix.
[05:25] <GoKillPeople> Is there a way I can get my display to go to 1440 X 900 instead of the presets?
[05:25] <Micawber> Thanks for the help..
[05:25] <hubuntu_______> no booting live cd from lilo help here? anyone? just the command for the ubuntu live cd from lilo....
[05:25] <kidbuntu> coopster: whats with that command?
[05:25] <JKirk_> not using automatix
[05:25] <kyncani> JKirk_: what kind of extras ?
[05:25] <Pelo> JKirk_,  it's just ubuntu repackages with a different theme and a butload of default progs you donT' know that you want anyway and that you can get easily enought using the repos system in ubuntu
[05:26] <nalioth> !tell GoKillPeople about xcfg
[05:26] <JKirk_> when I load ubuntu official ,the menu is practially blank...
[05:26] <JKirk_> ultimate has a ton of audio video and some games
[05:26] <waylan> i'm having trouble with figuring out the graphics...i tried the edit in terminal...but there is no list to add to..
[05:26] <GoKillPeople> ah
[05:26] <GoKillPeople> thanks =)
[05:26] <waylan> i'm a n00b be gentle
[05:26] <waylan> lol
[05:26] <coopster> kidbuntu, 'ps -Af' will list all of the running processes including the command line, and adding '| grep java' will display only lines with java in them
[05:27] <Pelo> waylan,  you typed it wrong  it's   X one one , not X L L
[05:27] <Pelo> waylan,  and linux is case sensitive,   so   gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:27] <JKirk_> is there a mac osx looking theme out there for ubunut?
[05:27] <waylan> that's what i put
[05:27] <ca1> I'm having trouble with sound on my computer my user is unable to hear any sound. But sudo can. I already checked groups. and aplay -l doesn't see a sound card though sudo aplay -l does
[05:27] <ca1> help please.
[05:27] <GoKillPeople> /exit Bye!!
[05:27] <Pelo> JKirk_, several , look in the links you were given
[05:28] <GoKillPeople> lol
[05:28] <GoKillPeople> exit isn't it..
[05:28] <kyncani> JKirk_: well, i'm using kde and there are many programs in the menus
[05:28] <lockd> JKirk_: official Ubuntu packages are available for most of those
[05:29] <lockd> btw, is there a way to separate automatix from official, like prefixing or something?
[05:29] <kidbuntu> coopster: hows that helps me to find which file or files?. or just by reading a particular source code
[05:29] <lockd> say, like a /usr/automatix (if that's legal to do with the filesystem)
[05:29] <waylan> it shows the resolutions i need, but what i have right now is sooo blurry
[05:29] <waylan> i don't get it
[05:29] <nalioth> lockd: you should stay away from automatix.  if you've installed it, you're screwed.
[05:30] <Bogus8> so ubuntu has compiz installed by default (once it's enabled).. correct?
[05:30] <lockd> nalioth: why so? I haven't, but would like to know
[05:30] <JKirk_> lockd, I'm not saying the packages aren't out there...just saying it's nice and convenient not to have to load anything myself... :)
[05:30] <Flannel> JKirk_: except you're pre-loading a broken system
[05:30] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[05:30] <ubot3> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:30] <nalioth> lockd: all the functionality of automatix is built into feisty, there is no need to use it
[05:30] <Pelo> Bogus8,  more or less   from more info ask in #ubuntu-effects
[05:30] <Bogus8> it's fully blown right?  I've never used it before but is one reason I installed on this laptop
[05:30] <waylan> maybe i need to add 32 after 24????
[05:30] <JKirk_> broken? howso?
[05:30] <waylan> bits?
[05:30] <Bogus8> Pelo: umm, ok
[05:31] <kyncani> JKirk_: there was a post about automatix in ubuntuplanet some days ago, also made it to slashdot i think
[05:32] <kyncani> JKirk_: like very, very broken
[05:32] <Pelo> waylan, in helps if you state the name of the person you are talking to in each line and please stop using the enter key for punctutation , this is a busy channel ,   please uplaod your xorg.conf file to the pastebin so we can have a look
[05:32] <Pelo> !pastebin | waylan
[05:32] <ubot3> waylan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:32] <Juno> how do I kill X after ubuntu has all ready booted?
[05:32] <ca1> I'm having trouble with sound on my computer my user is unable to hear any sound. But sudo can. I already checked groups. and aplay -l doesn't see a sound card though sudo aplay -l does
[05:32] <ca1> help
[05:32] <sethk> Juno, control-alt-backspace is one way
[05:33] <JKirk_> why does everyone keep talking about automatix...I'm not using that
[05:33] <sethk> Juno, although that will put you back to the login screen, not stop X entirely.
[05:33] <Juno> that will kill X and get me to the prompt?
[05:33] <rissy> ca1, add yourself to the audio group
[05:33] <Flannel> JKirk_: UUE has automatix in it already.
[05:33] <JKirk_> sethik: no...ctrl-alt-back doesn't work...the gdm just reloads
[05:33] <killown|away> how do i to get recursive directory "wget -r *.bz2 files!"?
[05:33] <Lunis> Juno, it will kill X and restart it
[05:33] <sethk> Juno, control-alt-f1 will give you a non-gui login
[05:33] <Pelo> ca1,  menu > system > admin > users, select the user open theproperties and see that he has access
[05:33] <Juno> I need to stop X completely to install the NVIDIA driver
[05:33] <Flannel> JKirk_: and it does plenty of things non-correctly.
[05:33] <JKirk_> Flannel, has it but I don't use it
[05:33] <JKirk_> can you specifiy?
[05:33] <Pelo> Juno,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:33] <sethk> killown|away, it doesn't reload, because it never stopped running.  As I noted ...
[05:33] <thoreauputic> Juno:   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:33] <Sithe> Hey can someone here help me with Beryl?
[05:34] <riyonuk> I got a software update notification, if I click install updates, will it upgrade to 7.04? Cause theres a button for that too
[05:34] <nalioth> Sithe: join #ubuntu-effects for beryl
[05:34] <JKirk_> I just installed and if it's gonna be a problem, I'd like to reinstall a basic ubuntu before I get to settled in...
[05:34] <Pelo> Sithe,  the ppl in #beryl can
[05:34] <Sithe> Ahh okay
[05:35] <Sithe> How can I get to #beryl?
[05:35] <Sithe> Sorry Im new to IRC
[05:35] <coopster> kidbuntu, well, I had thought you wanted to identify the file that a java program used?  Usually, java programs are run by executing 'java <some_file.jar>' at some point or another, so looking at 'ps -Af' would reveal that jar file
[05:35] <Pelo> Sithe,   type /join #beryl
[05:35] <Sithe> Ty
[05:35] <Rowan> oh i know the problem, sorry gotta rejoin one more time
[05:36] <Lunis> Is there a way to either force an unmount, or tell what is accessing a mount that's keeping it from unmounting?
[05:36] <royel> Hey, I'm looking to setup a PDC with roaming profiles, clients will be both linux and win(xp), I'm confused about whether to use NFS or Samba, I've read something about samba not liking roaming profiles, perhaps someone could confirm this or knows of a good tutorial on this exact thing?
[05:36] <kyncani> Lunis: use lsof
[05:36] <sethk> Lunis, lsof will list open files, and you can search the output for the mount point
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Lunis:  try   lsof | grep <mountpoint>
[05:36] <Pelo> Lunis,  man umount  I think there is an option to force it
[05:36] <hubuntu> does anybody knows which path is used for the init files are  on the install CD in 5.04 / hoary?
[05:36] <Bogus8> is there not a ubuntu repos with Opera on it?
[05:37] <Lunis> :D o
[05:37] <Lunis> ^I'll try lsof
[05:37] <thoreauputic> !opera
[05:37] <ubot3> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:37] <kidbuntu> but the command that you gave returned this. i dont know what this is " 8037  8019  0 11:25 pts/0    00:00:00 grep java
[05:37] <kidbuntu> "
[05:37] <theman> whats up
[05:37] <Bogus8> thoreauputic: thanks
[05:37] <ca1> Pelo:  I already added myself with sudo nano /etc/group
[05:37] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:38] <theman> hey does ubuntu or linux in general have anything like windows scandisk ?
[05:38] <sethk> kidbuntu, that's the grep command itself, not the one he was looking for.
[05:38] <Pelo> !sound > ca1 check your priviate message windows for a message from ubot3   try this then
[05:38] <kersinc> #panas
[05:38] <MasterShrek> theman, e2fsck
[05:38] <Pelo> kersinc,  /join #panas
[05:38] <theman> do you have to have your drive unmounted?
[05:38] <hubuntu> bogus.. you may as well go to the site of the product... of course it is better to have it through a repository.. but the site is faster :)
[05:38] <JKirk_> !changethemes
[05:38] <ubot3> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:38] <sethk> theman, the various fsck programs.  If you are looking for hardware level, look at badblocks
[05:38] <thoreauputic> theman: yes
[05:38] <Bogus8> hubuntu: yeah, I like using apt to maintain it though
[05:39] <kidbuntu> sethk: can you explain it to me further, i didnt get it.
[05:39] <thoreauputic> theman: running a file system check on a mounted drive would be a Bad Move (tm) :)
[05:39] <theman> is that the best thing out there?
[05:39] <lockd> I have heard that roaming profiles is inherantly broken
[05:39] <kyncani> Bogus8: i think you can find opera in medibuntu repos
[05:39] <coopster> kidbuntu, right, try it without the grep command, it may be that this method won't work in your situation if all you're seeing is the grep command
[05:39] <theman> why such a bad move?
[05:39] <galpa> #ubuntu-es
[05:39] <nalioth> kyncani: opera is availabe from the ubuntu commercial repos
[05:39] <dpgamer> Hey, can anyone explain why ubuntu live cd won't load up on my laptop? It will show various error messages before it even comes up then once the gui shows (when it does show) it freezes.
[05:39] <Bogus8> kyncani: cool... I'm checking things out
[05:40] <thoreauputic> theman: if it is mounted you run the risk of writing to it while checking it
[05:40] <theman> oh
[05:40] <sethk> kidbuntu, he did a ps (process status) command, fed the output to grep (which searches for lines matching a particular word).  In this case you pulled out the line that said "grep java", which is not what he was hoping to find, but was in fact the command you were running to look for the data.
[05:40] <cccvvvppp> wtf
[05:40] <kyncani> nalioth, Bogus8: oh, did not know that (use konqueror and firefox here)
[05:40] <cccvvvppp> [22:40]  ERROR *** Banned: Temporary D-line 14400 min. - (r12/23) Your client nick/user/ircname looks random-generated. Please use another server. (2007/8/9 23.40)
[05:40] <cccvvvppp> lol
[05:40] <cccvvvppp> on efnet via this nick
[05:40] <sethk> kidbuntu, if that's the only line shown, then java is not running at the time you executed the command.
[05:40] <nalioth> cccvvvppp: #ubuntu-offtopic is for offtopic chatter  :)
[05:40] <hubuntu> dpgamner what laptop do you have? model?
[05:41] <Pelo> dpgamer,  do you have a nvidia or ati video card ?  you need to use the alternat install cd , and install the drivers afterwards  cause they aren't opensource
[05:41] <sethk> kidbuntu, I get rid of the problem by adding    | grep -v grep     to the end of the command (which says skip lines containing "grep")
[05:41] <dpgamer> HP dv9000z
[05:41] <dpgamer> pheonix bios, nvidia graphics
[05:41] <Bogus8> kyncani: you should check it out man... it's the bees knees ;)
[05:41] <theman> how would you run e2fsck without having your hard drive mounted
[05:41] <ca1> Pelo:  The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured. I'll try those links now. I'll get back to you
[05:41] <Pelo> dpgamer,  you will need to use the alternate isntall cd , it is text based
[05:41] <hubuntu> try the install with safe graphics before the alternate CD
[05:41] <kyncani> Bogus8: it's not gpl, so it's a no-go
[05:42] <Juno> ok, I tried to install the nvidia driver and it said something about missing kernal something or other.  any idea on that?
[05:42] <Bogus8> kyncani: but it's so lovely ;)
[05:42] <kidbuntu> sethk: so for example. the module of the program somehow related to promo pricing. then I do this? " ps -Af |promo java "
[05:42] <Pelo> ca1,  sounds to me like your user is not set to use alsa ,   but someting else,  make sure the user uses alsa ,
[05:42] <hubuntu> yeah.. and they use Qt too :) that's why opera is so portable
[05:42] <hubuntu> or am I wrong?
[05:42] <hubuntu> I read that somewhere
[05:42] <kyncani> Bogus8: yeah, it's the dark side
[05:42] <lockd> so they actually have to pay for Qt
[05:42] <ca1> Pelo:  who do I check that?
[05:43] <dpgamer> Is there anyway to use this install cd in text mode?
[05:43] <Bogus8> kyncani: they used to be pay... give them some time they'll come around
[05:43] <sethk> kidbuntu, that's not likely to work, though, because all you get from ps is the command line that started the command.  Unless the java program happens to have "promo" in the name, it won't show anything.  Also, ps is only good for programs that are running at the time ps is executed.
[05:43] <Pelo> ca1, dbl click on the sound icon in the top pannel , checn the menus and stuff
[05:43] <hubuntu> well trolltech has to survive of the paying companies, right? I honestly v can't say that I have helped them so much (but again... I do not use KDE either :)
[05:43] <JKirk_> I've got a 4 button mouse with roller and for some reason, button 3 invokes cube rotate.. is there a way for me to make it do a backup (as in firefox backup to a previous page)?
[05:43] <Juno> anyone know what kernel it is that NVIDIA tries to download from the website?
[05:44] <sethk> kidbuntu, you might instead try using the find command, perhaps something like:  find / -iname '*promo*'     which finds any files on the box with promo in the name
[05:44] <lockd> Bogus8: what I hate worst is closed-source "freeware" just because it's based on a particular toolkit
[05:44] <JKirk_> Juno, don't worry about it
[05:44] <JKirk_> just ignore that and let it build one for you
[05:44] <Juno> it wont build one for me either
[05:44] <kidbuntu> i dont really get it. are you familiar with sethk web frameworks? can you name something
[05:44] <Juno> says I'm missing something
[05:44] <Juno> and iunno wtf Im doing
[05:44] <Juno> =D
[05:44] <JKirk_> than you are screwed
[05:44] <JKirk_> :(
[05:44] <Bogus8> lockd: I just think they are holding on to old ideals and such
[05:44] <lockd> hubuntu: well, I just wonder how Opera can survive, but it does sell a lot of other products
[05:44] <kyncani> !nvidia >Juno
[05:45] <kidbuntu> sethk: i dont really get it. are you familiar with  web frameworks? can you name something
[05:45] <hubuntu> juno google envy fesity
[05:45] <lockd> Bogus8: yeah, and when the claim is "messy code"?
[05:45] <ca1> Pelo:  What sound icon?
[05:45] <ca1> Pelo:  volume icon?
[05:45] <hubuntu> it will fix hopefully your problem
[05:45] <Pelo> ca1,  yes the volume icon
[05:45] <Bogus8> lockd: I find it is better than firefox... it's why I switched... even before it was free
[05:45] <lockd> Bogus8: I say $#@#, assembly (what you give us) is a so much more verbose and messy
[05:45] <newbie2> how to install a file with extension deb
[05:45] <JKirk_> can anyone help me with the mouse problem?
[05:46] <Pelo> newbie2, doulbe click on it
[05:46] <MISTERTibbs>   deb
[05:46] <IdleOne> newbie2, dpkg -i filename.deb
[05:46] <hubuntu> opera survives out of their opera browser for mobile devices
[05:46] <gnychis> i install compiz fusion, but it does not show up in GDM as a session option, anyone maybe know why?
[05:46] <ca1> Pelo:  I already sent you what I get when I try to click it
[05:46] <hubuntu> nintedo wii, psp, some nokia symbian models...
[05:46] <lockd> Bogus8: I just used Konq because it is mostly decent
[05:46] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: talk
[05:47] <Pelo> ca1,  try alsamixer in the terminal , and change it from there
[05:47] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: mouse issue??
[05:47] <Bogus8> I've turned quite a few people from FF to Opera... a simple test drive and they are hooked
[05:47] <kahrytan> How do you show trashcan on desktop?
[05:47] <ca1> Pelo:  I can't run alsamixer in the terminal unless sudo. What should I do?
[05:47] <kyncani> lockd: mostly decent, i'd say, it's great ! Always have an instance opened here :)
[05:47] <Gh0st> Anybody mind helping me out dealingwith, basically, restarting a laptop from scratch and loading a second OS for Dual-boot?
[05:47] <hubuntu> and some weird framework they sell...
[05:47] <hubuntu> anyway
[05:47] <lockd> kyncani: there are flaws which I hope are fixed in 4.x
[05:47] <hubuntu> no luck with lilo anyone?
[05:47] <Pelo> ca1, I'm stumped,  check in the forum taht is all I can suggest
[05:48] <Geek_> Gh0st: what OSes?
[05:48] <kyncani> lockd: yeah, presentation. And hopefully gnash will come around soon too
[05:48] <JKirk_> I've got a 4 button mouse with roller and for some reason, button 3 invokes cube rotate.. is there a way for me to make it do a backup (as in firefox backup to a previous page)?
[05:48] <kritical> Is it possible to change the permissions of a folder so that all files created in that folder inherit the same permissions?
[05:48] <lockd> kyncani: they are shared with Safari, though - such as not listening to XSLT
[05:48] <Gh0st> Windows Vista (Pre-installed), and Dual-Boot Ubuntu.
[05:48] <ca1> Pelo:  I've checked the forums no one posts anything.
[05:48] <Pelo> ca1, remember the first thing I told you to do about the user dialog in the admin menu,   ?  go and do it
[05:49] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, I've got a 4 button mouse with roller and for some reason, button 3 invokes cube rotate.. is there a way for me to make it do a backup (as in firefox backup to a previous page)?
[05:49] <Pelo> !mouse | JKirk_
[05:49] <ubot3> JKirk_: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:49] <coopster> !repeat  | JKirk_
[05:49] <ubot3> JKirk_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:49] <kyncani> kritical: nope
[05:50] <JKirk_> thanks
[05:50] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: on private channel
[05:50] <JKirk_> I don't see the private chan
[05:50] <hubuntu> a simple question about a ps2 mouse
[05:50] <Gh0st> Geek_: Windows Vista Basic (Pre-installed) and Dual-Boot with
[05:50] <Gh0st> Ubuntu
[05:50] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, did you already open one?
[05:50] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: wait one
[05:50] <Pelo> hubuntu,  don'T announce your questions just ask them
[05:51] <Geek_> Gh0st: hmm, partitioned already?
[05:52] <ca1> Pelo:  tell me that again.
[05:52] <ca1> Pelo:  please.
[05:52] <alaa> hiiiiiii
[05:52] <hubuntu> I tried to install feisty on a P3 which has a PS/2 mouse. Everything worked, but the mouse. It was recognized as a strange mac element under HAL. I experienced something similar with Caldera (befora the SCO days ;) and I wonder if it has something to do with the kernel... The mouse won't work (tried with 2 mouses, that worked undder windows in the same machine)... anyone?
[05:52] <Pelo> ca1,  menu > system > admin > users ,   select the user ,  click the properties button on the right, second tab ,  check the corect box
[05:53] <Geek_> Gh0st: 1) http://lifehacker.com/software/vista/screenshot-tour--repartition-your-hard-drive-in-windows-vista-231613.php repartition 2) pop in ubuntu CD and boot. follow install procedures CAREFULLY and install on the right partition. 3) boot into your new install ;)
[05:53] <mrigns> !loco
[05:53] <ubot3> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[05:53] <vexati0n> ps/2 mice are ancient technorogy.
[05:53] <Depeche> Hi guys.
[05:53] <ameyer> not that ancient
[05:53] <alaa> does any one know how to install hotmail msn on that ubunto
[05:53] <Gh0st> Geek_: Going to Partition when I install Ubuntu from CD. My plan is this: To run the recovery disc that came with the laptop (contains factory settings of the laptop), thus putting it at basic settings. [I have a list of programs that I'll want to be sure to put back on Windows.]  Then, follow the method you just mentioned about installing and partioning. My question: Is my plan efficient?
[05:53] <alaa> or yahpp
[05:54] <Pelo> hubuntu,  I suggst you look up the mouse model in the forum see if anything is mentionned
[05:54] <Injen> Anyone have recommendations for backup software? Anything better than keep?
[05:54] <vexati0n> alaa: install hotmail? don't you just go to the website?
[05:54] <ameyer> some motherboards still have ps/2 ports, and you can still buy ps/2 mice
[05:54] <Pelo> Injen,  do a search in synaptic see what comes up
[05:54] <Geek_> Gh0st: DON'T partition from ubuntu... partition from vista.
[05:54] <thedonvaughn> alaa: confused.. what do u mean "install" hotmail or yahoo?
[05:54] <alaa> in ubuntooooooo
[05:54] <genii> alaa: look into kopete or gaim/pidgin
[05:54] <ca1> Pelo:  I'm having problems for some reason with that now. I can't even sudo nano /etc/groups . So I am going to reboot bbl
[05:54] <alaa> well in gaim it works
[05:54] <thedonvaughn> alaa: u can use your favorite mail client that supports POP3 to read your hotmail or yahoo email.
[05:54] <Gh0st> Geek_: So, recover, then partition, then boo and install?
[05:54] <Geek_> i had issues with that, only got saved by XP's checkdisk
[05:54] <alaa> but i want sprate msn
[05:54] <Gh0st> *boot
[05:54] <Pelo> ca1,  you don't need to use the terminal for wht I am telling you to do
[05:54] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: what are your mouse specs??
[05:55] <kritical> vexati0n, they're still in production, motherboards are still manufactured with PS/2 ports... I don't understand how you can claim it as ancient.... the majority of KVM's still require PS/2
[05:55] <Depeche> Hey, I've got an ATI Radeon AIW 8500 and Ubuntu 7.04 only gives me 800x600 @ 60 hz as the best option. What do I do to fix this?
[05:55] <vexati0n> kritical: it was sarcasm.
[05:55] <ca1> Pelo:  I know. But I am unable to what you told me to do either.
[05:55] <ca1> Pelo:  brb
[05:55] <alaa> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[05:55] <Geek_> Gh0st: no, partition in vista, install. if you already partitioned check if vista can boot
[05:55] <Depeche> My uncle gave me this pc and said he ran at 1280x1024 as a higher refresh
[05:55] <alaa> SOME ONE HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[05:55] <alaa> LOL
[05:55] <Depeche> Can someone please help me out?
[05:55] <Pelo> Depeche,  search the forum for ati resolution  there is a special way to do it for those card
[05:55] <astro76> !caps | alaa
[05:55] <ubot3> alaa: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:55] <Depeche> oh ok.
[05:55] <MISTERTibbs> Depeche: I had the same issue
[05:55] <astro76> !im | alaa
[05:55] <alaa> I WANT HOTMAIL MSN
[05:55] <coopster> !patience | alaa
[05:55] <Geek_> ...
[05:56] <Depeche> I'm not linux friendly right now, but playing with this to learn.
[05:56] <kritical> alaa: install Gaim/Pidgin
[05:56] <cafuego> alaa: http:/www.hotmail.com/ in your web browser
[05:56] <muhammad> what is the default root password for first installation?
[05:56] <alaa> I DOWNLOAD IT BUT I DONOT KNOW HOW TO INSTALL WITH THAT TERMIAL
[05:56] <astro76> !caps | alaa
[05:56] <Pelo> Depeche, I needed to incrase the horizsync value in xorg.conf to 64 for mine to work at that resolution
[05:56] <MISTERTibbs> Depeche: google ubuntu ATI.  It's a common problem and there is a how to
[05:56] <thoreauputic> alaa: stop being silly
[05:56] <astro76> alaa, please don't shout
[05:56] <Geek_> alaa: MS dosen't have a version of MSNIM for linux. use gaim
[05:56] <alaa> OKOK
[05:56] <IdleOne> !fixres | Depeche
[05:56] <alaa> OK
[05:56] <Gh0st> Geek_: Ok. But, I want to put my Windows OS back at factory settings, that way it takes up the least amount of space possible. Would that interfere with partioning and installing?
[05:56] <kritical> alaa: sudo apt-get install gaim
[05:56] <Depeche> Thank you MisterTibbs
[05:56] <Pelo> muhammad,  the password you set when you piked your user name
[05:56] <cafuego> alaa: You don't need to download gaim or pidgin, you can install it via Add/Remove in the Applications menu.
[05:56] <vexati0n> (this is why it is a good thing that linux will never be the dominant desktop OS. thank christ.)
[05:56] <MISTERTibbs> Depeche: np.  good luck
[05:56] <thinlace> i just setup windowsxp with qemu on feisty, however i can't get network access. i tried the -net user flag but no luck anyone know how this works?
[05:57] <alaa> I WANT IT SPARATEDDDDDDD
[05:57] <MISTERTibbs> !fixres
[05:57] <cafuego> alaa: Stop using caps.
[05:57] <kyncani> !ubotu
[05:57] <coopster> ubot seems to have gone awal.
[05:57] <alaa> ok
[05:57] <thoreauputic> alaa: stop it or you will be kicked
[05:57] <coopster> s/awal/awol
[05:57] <cafuego> !test
[05:57] <alaa> okok
[05:57] <kritical> I'm suprised by anyone who can connect to IRC and not use a caps-lock button...
[05:57] <Geek_> Gh0st: naw, it shouldn't. in my case i installed vista, XP and ubuntu
[05:57] <MISTERTibbs> ubot
[05:57] <muhammad> but it say login incorrect
[05:57] <cccvvvppp> what in the world
[05:57] <coopster> kritical, well, to be fair he used it once.
[05:57] <alaa> so plz i want  the hotmail work without Gaim
[05:57] <Depeche> Lot of stuff to read. grr.
[05:57] <Geek_> kritical: i think he's trying to be a PITA
[05:57] <Pelo> muhammad,  linux is case sensitive
[05:58] <kyncani> cafuego: seems like ubotu is really dead now ...
[05:58] <Gh0st> So, I don't need to recover at all, just partition, reboot from CD and install into partition?
[05:58] <Geek_> alaa: *not* possible, go yell at MS for that
[05:58] <kidbuntu> does gaim have a feature wherein you can read the history of my messages?
[05:58] <Gh0st> *Geek_
[05:58] <cafuego> alaa: You may need amsn, which I can't help you with.
[05:58] <Geek_> hmm
[05:58] <MISTERTibbs> what happened to the ubot?
[05:58] <Pelo> alaa,   search in the forum for hotmail howto  there is a method there
[05:58] <Geek_> allaa: AMSN
[05:58] <Geek_> Gh0st: yes?>
[05:58] <muhammad> ok
[05:58] <Pelo> !ubot3
[05:58] <Pelo> !ubot3
[05:58] <alaa> ok where to write that
[05:58] <thoreauputic> MISTERTibbs: being looked at as we speak
[05:58] <cafuego> alaa: in http://www.google.com/
[05:58] <Pelo> alaa,   www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:59] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, private msg
[05:59] <muhammad> ok
[05:59] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: ok
[05:59] <coopster> !test
[05:59] <Gh0st> Geek_: Thanks. One last question: IS there anything that lets me know I'm installing into correct partition? Or, is there something more I would need to do?
[05:59] <muhammad> then how can i change the password in a comman line?
[05:59] <alaa> i downloaded amsn but i donot know how to exctact it
[05:59] <Pelo> !botabuse
[05:59] <ubot3> Factoid ubot3 not found
[05:59] <Pelo> sigh ...
[05:59] <Geek_> Gh0st: usually i go by size ;)
[05:59] <thinlace> is this a bad place to ask about qemu?
[05:59] <Pelo> alaa,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[05:59] <ubot3> Failed.
[05:59] <ubot3> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:00] <Pelo> thinlace,  yes it is likely to get you linched
[06:00] <Gh0st> Geek_: Meaning....? USe the partition that looks the largest?
[06:00] <Geek_> thinlace: not bad, but #qemu is better
[06:00] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: click my name to open private
[06:00] <thoreauputic> the bot is lagging - please don't abuse it
[06:00] <lockd> thinlace: IMO VirtualBox is better
[06:00] <muhammad> and why doesn't ubuntu have KPDF on the default installation?
[06:00] <Geek_> Gh0st: i usually set them to be different sizes ;)
[06:00] <lockd> muhammad: because Ubuntu does not even default to kde
[06:00] <Pelo> alaa,  I don't allow /msg please talk to me in the channel
[06:01] <alaa> gosh
[06:01] <alaa> pelo
[06:01] <Gh0st> Geek_: Ok...Still not understanding. But, I'm sure I'll get it through the process.
[06:01] <Pelo> yes ?
[06:01] <alaa> plz help
[06:01] <astro76> alaa, you can install amsn through synaptic
[06:01] <thoreauputic> muhammad: because it's a KDE app - ubuntu has a pdf viewer though
[06:01] <astro76> !synaptic | alaa
[06:01] <ubot3> alaa: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:01] <alaa> i downloaded the amns
[06:01] <MISTERTibbs> muhammad: apt-get install KDE desktop will give you the experience.  u can run gnome or kde session if dual install
[06:01] <alaa> well i tried but where is it
[06:01] <thoreauputic> alaa: last warning - be patient, calm down and stop using <enter> as punctuation
[06:01] <astro76> alaa, did you read that link already about synaptic??
[06:02] <lockd> MISTERTibbs: eh, that is not the correct packages, shouldn't it be kubuntu-desktop?
[06:02] <Pelo> alaa,  you might need to enable the multiverse repos and the backport
[06:02] <alaa> how is that
[06:02] <alaa> tell me how
[06:02] <MISTERTibbs> lockd: u might be right.  I only installed it once and then deleted.
[06:02] <thoreauputic> !repos | alaa
[06:02] <ubot3> alaa: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:03] <Pelo> alaa,  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager ,  find  repositories in the menu,   check the mulbiverse box in the first that and the backport one in the third tab I think
[06:03] <thinlace> lockd why virtualbox? just wondering
[06:03] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, I did open a dialog window
[06:03] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: well thats not working.  wanna try IM?? i've got a googlechat
[06:03] <alaa> ok then what
[06:04] <riyonuk> I nderstand I can mount my windows partition? Im trying to get all my music from windows to linux, and then format that drive :D
[06:04] <MasterShrek> google has chat now?!
[06:04] <JKirk_> haven't tried that before but I'm game
[06:04] <MasterShrek> when did that happen?
[06:04] <lockd> thinlace: it uses kqemu style emulation, but anything kqemu does it gets caches
[06:04] <Pelo> alaa,  then use the search feature to look for amsn again
[06:04] <lockd> thinlace: cached
[06:04] <MasterShrek> can u use pidgin for google chat?
[06:04] <dgeorge> google talk... i
[06:04] <alaa> thanks man yyou are so sweet
[06:04] <alaa> wait donot you move ha
[06:04] <alaa> lol
[06:04] <Pelo> alaa,  when you talk to someone in a busy channel it help is you type their nick in each line
[06:04] <dgeorge> is it different than google talk or
[06:04] <ari_stress2> guys, what is the substitute command for rpm -ql in ubuntu? i need to know what files consisted in a .deb package
[06:04] <lockd> MasterShrek: yes but google talk has it's limits, it is a closed Jabber server
[06:04] <Pelo> alla pleas don'T use the enter key as punctuation
[06:05] <lockd> MasterShrek: so you have to login by a google talk account
[06:05] <Pelo> alaa  pleas don'T use the enter key as punctuation
[06:05] <alaa> am  new here
[06:05] <thoreauputic> ari_stress2: try dpkg -L <package>
[06:05] <ari_stress2> thoreauputic: thanks :)
[06:05] <thoreauputic> alaa: we can tell :)
[06:05] <Gh0st> Geek_: Um, just wondering - You say to partition using widows then reboot fom CD to install. But, what about this thread: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing In which they suggest partioning from Ubuntu CD?
[06:05] <alaa> wait
[06:05] <Pelo> thoreauputic,  don'T be cheeky
[06:05] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, just tell me how to connect with you on googlechat
[06:05] <thoreauputic> Pelo: :P
[06:06] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: u have GAIM under the internet menu
[06:06] <JKirk_> k
[06:06] <KanRiNiN> Quick question when someone's free.  How can i run a script at startup?  I tried placing sh /home/server/mhive.sh in the Sessions but it didn't work
[06:06] <alaa> then it will work after that
[06:06] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: connect using whatever IM chat you have
[06:06] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, I don't use one... recommendations?
[06:06] <Pelo> alaa,  when you talk to someone in a busy channel it help is you type their nick in each line
[06:06] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: msn??
[06:06] <JKirk_> ewww
[06:06] <astro76> ari_stress2, you'll find this page usefull ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[06:06] <alaa> ok pelo
[06:06] <alaa> pelo
[06:07] <alaa> pelo thanks
[06:07] <alaa> lol
[06:07] <lockd> Is pidgin available as a backport?
[06:07] <lockd> for feisty
[06:07] <Pelo> alaa,  you won't need to re-enable the repositories again,  you now have all the standard ones
[06:07] <alaa> pelo you are really so nice
[06:07] <muhammad> apt-get : couldnot find KDE package
[06:07] <dgeorge> hey guys with xchat how do i open another server window
[06:07] <KanRiNiN> Anyone?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> muhammad: try kubuntu-desktop if you want to install KDE
[06:08] <alaa> pelo: it is downloading
[06:08] <lockd> I could care less for the gtk version but libpurple and finch
[06:08] <alaa> pelo: and what about yahoo
[06:08] <Pelo> lockd,  doesn'T change the packages in the repos during a distro,  it only add update and upgrade,  gaim was the default when 7.04 came out
[06:08] <IdleOne> dgeorge, click on Xchat in top left corner
[06:08] <MISTERTibbs> muhammad: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <Pelo> alaa, yahoo what ?
[06:08] <alaa> MSN
[06:08] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: u have msn??
[06:08] <alaa> pelo: yahoo messnger
[06:08] <lockd> Pelo: but I can install it with a regular deb, correct?
[06:09] <JKirk_> nope
[06:09] <dgeorge> Idleone and...
[06:09] <Falstius> KanRiNiN: put it in /etc/rcS.d
[06:09] <alaa> pelo plz open the private
[06:09] <Pelo> alaa, you'd have to know what the alternative is,  I'm not familiar with instant msging apps
[06:09] <Pelo> lockd,  you should
[06:09] <Pelo> alaa, no
[06:09] <sloucher> Anyone experienced this? I'm log into a remote computer with ssh. When I do a command with a lot of output such as ps -ef - I loose the connection. Anyone know what I should start to look at?
[06:09] <astro76> !pm | alaa
[06:09] <ubot3> alaa: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[06:09] <IdleOne> dgeorge, look under New. dont be affraid to try stuff dude :)
[06:09] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, trying to get msn...asking me to download livemessenger...I assume that won't work in X?
[06:09] <dgeorge> there is no new though
[06:10] <astro76> dgeorge, are you using xchat or xchat-gnome ?
[06:10] <muhammad> kubuntu-desktop not found
[06:10] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: true.  if you have yahoo that might work as well
[06:10] <dgeorge> xchat-gnome
[06:10] <IdleOne> ahhh
[06:10] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, I don't have ANY im software...
[06:10] <alaa> pelo :
[06:10] <Pelo> alaa,  I think gaim handles yahoo , but I amm not sure
[06:10] <JKirk_> never had the need for it before
[06:11] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: go with yahoo.  avoid msft.
[06:11] <dgeorge> IdleOne is there a better irc chat out there....
[06:11] <zaxor1> I am using a inspiron 600m with a ati mobility 9000 video card. but when I switch the laptop to the vga out the screen is black, can anyone tell me why?
[06:11] <scipio> yes gaim has both yahoo and msn
[06:11] <alaa> it gave me a wrong  message after it was downloaded
[06:11] <Pelo> alaa,  do you see how I type my lines when I am talking to you,  do the same
[06:11] <MISTERTibbs> muhammad: retype.  I just found it no problelm
[06:11] <astro76> dgeorge, not sure I really don't like that one :)
[06:11] <Pelo> alaa,  what was the error msg you got ?
[06:11] <IdleOne> dgeorge, depends who you ask but not really
[06:11] <IdleOne> dgeorge, type /join #xchat and ask them I am not sure
[06:11] <dgeorge> astro76 and Idelone what are you gall using
[06:11] <alaa> pelo: it gave me a worng message after it was downloaded
[06:11] <zaxor1> I am using a inspiron 600m with a ati mobility 9000 video card and i am using the "ati" drivers (according to my xorg). but when I switch the laptop to the vga out the screen is black, can anyone tell me why?
[06:11] <Pelo> alaa,  what was the error msg you got ?
[06:11] <astro76> dgeorge, plain xchat
[06:11] <alaa> pelo just a sec
[06:12] <muhammad> MISTERTIbbs: what is your version, mine is 5.10
[06:12] <KanRiNiN> Falstius: What if the script is in mhive , and is essentially a directory for a the server?
[06:12] <eddie_> I <3 porn
[06:12] <MISTERTibbs> muhammad: version of what??
[06:12] <KanRiNiN> perhaps I can just edit the $tools:launcher.jar to read $tools:/home/server/mhive/launcher.jar
[06:12] <jose__> hola.. alguien  que hable espanol? spanish?
[06:12] <IdleOne> ubuntu 5.10
[06:12] <Pelo> eddie_,  this is a support channnel, please keep it family freindly
[06:12] <thoreauputic> !es
[06:12] <Pelo> !es | jose__
[06:12] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, on yahoo.com... I don't see IM
[06:12] <eddie_> otay :)
[06:12] <alaa> pelo:  E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[06:12] <alaa> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:12] <alaa> E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:12] <IdleOne> MISTERTibbs, he needs to enable repos
[06:12] <Falstius> KanRiNiN: no idea, I have never head of mhive.
[06:12] <astro76> dgeorge, btw, do not ask about xchat-gnome in #xchat, I hear they are not too fond of it
[06:13] <muhammad> your ubuntu
[06:13] <alaa> pelo : what is that
[06:13] <Pelo> jose__,  /join #ubuntu-es
[06:13] <dgeorge> too late
[06:13] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:13] <JKirk_> wait...found it I think
[06:13] <ubot3> jose__: please see above
[06:13] <jose__> ok thanks
[06:13] <astro76> dgeorge, lol ;)
[06:13] <thoreauputic> jose__:  /join #ubuntu-es
[06:13] <JKirk_> does it work in nix?
[06:13] <dgeorge> lol
[06:13] <KanRiNiN> Falstius: I got sick of gnump3d not reading any files correctly :-)
[06:13] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: go to gaim and set up your chat.  if you have yahoo it's the same as your login to the email
[06:13] <alaa> pelooooooooooooooooo?
[06:13] <MISTERTibbs> IdleOne: thanks
[06:13] <Pelo> alaa,  I think you closed the package manager before the installation was finished
[06:13] <JKirk_> I don't have a yahoo mail... I've got a google mail
[06:13] <MISTERTibbs> muhammad: u need to enable repositories
[06:13] <alaa> pelo: i did nottttttttt
[06:13] <Pelo> alaa, please be a little more patient
[06:14] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: only 1 email account??
[06:14] <alaa> pelo i fell so stupid
[06:14] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, that and my isp email
[06:14] <IdleOne> muhammad, use this link to enable the repositories https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[06:14] <alaa> pelo : i was trying to install the msn from morning
[06:14] <Pelo> alaa,  try again then , or try using   menu > applications > add/remove and search for amsn in there,  close synaptic first if you do that
[06:14] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: ok.  easy to set one up and that will give u im.
[06:14] <muhammad> MISTERTibbs: I know how to enable the repositories on Suse, but Ubuntu is new for me
[06:14] <Pelo> alaa,  you are not stupid you are learning
[06:14] <MISTERTibbs> muhammad: wait one
[06:15] <dgeorge> hey guys do you have any screen shots of your desktop posted up somewhere
[06:15] <alaa> Pelo : i am a computer manager for a computer company and that is the first time am using that ubntoooooo
[06:15] <IdleOne> muhammad, MISTERTibbs  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[06:16] <alaa> pelo: windows xp serv pack too is much easier
[06:16] <MISTERTibbs> IdleOne: thanks.
[06:16] <IdleOne> np
[06:16] <alaa> pelo : but i love  the now things
[06:16] <Pelo> alaa, these will come in handy   http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[06:16] <hunteke> hey, to anyone who uses thunderbird or evolution: is there a way to automatically collect Thunderbirds message filters that I've set up?  Or do I have to manually recreate them in Evolution
[06:16] <MISTERTibbs> muhammad: system>administration>software sources
[06:16] <Pelo> alaa,  what is your native language ?
[06:16] <pramz> hunteke, you have to manually recreate them
[06:16] <hunteke> pramz: durn, but thanks
[06:16] <kyncani> IdleOne: you sure ? Bots keep getting abused ;)
[06:17] <alaa> pelo : that ubntu things is great so fast but so complicated
[06:17] <thoreauputic> IdleOne: it's over-rated ( I'm a bot and I can tell you ;-) )
[06:17] <hunteke> durn is now the new spelling of damn, btw
[06:17] <pramz> hunteke, and personally I prefer thunderbird, seems to handle folders with lots of messages better than evolution
[06:17] <hunteke> ah
[06:17] <IdleOne> thoreauputic, and kyncani  :)
[06:17] <alaa> pelo: wait let me do this again
[06:17] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: still there??
[06:17] <Pelo> alaa,  you'll get the hang of it eventualy, it's not that complicated
[06:17] <hunteke> pramz, It's my mail client of choice too but I need a calendar client
[06:17] <hunteke> that plays well with iCal
[06:17] <hunteke> and I thought I'd check out evolution
[06:17] <alaa> pelo: there is a green mark on it what is that means
[06:17] <pramz> hunteke, thunderbird + lightning
[06:17] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, ok... in gaim yahoo now
[06:18] <alaa> pelo : is it installed or what?
[06:18] <hunteke> lightning?  oh! I have heard of that
[06:18] <Pelo> alaa,  it means the package is installed,
[06:18] <pramz> hunteke, I use it with calendar actually. Evolution does not do caldav properly
[06:18] <Pelo> alaa,  try right click , reinstall
[06:18] <hunteke> good to know, good to know
[06:18] <alaa> pelo then how i get to it
[06:18] <bullgard4> I am looking for a better alternatve for OO.o Base. The OO. Base frontend does not provide a keyboard shortcut for 'Go to the next record', 'Go to the last record', 'Go to the previous record'. The 'Search for a record' keyboard shortcut Ctrl+F only opens if the cursor is prevously placed at certain screen areas. 43000 records, GUI mandatory.
[06:18] <Pelo> alaa,  should be in the menu,  > applications > internet
[06:18] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, are you offline right now?
[06:19] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: seattlechaz@hotmail.com
[06:19] <alaa> wooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
[06:19] <alaa> pelooooooo: thans man
[06:19] <Pelo> alaa,  stop that it'sr realy annoying
[06:19] <Pelo> alaa,  and you are welcome
[06:19] <alaa> pelo am thanking you and you tell me it is annoying
[06:19] <thoreauputic> alaa: red a bit about netiquette please
[06:19] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: yahoo ID??
[06:19] <alaa> pelo : am angry
[06:19] <sloucher> Anyone experienced this? I'm log into a remote computer with ssh. When I do a command with a lot of output such as ps -ef - I loose the connection. Anyone know what I should start to look at?
[06:20] <thoreauputic> alaa: IRC has its own rules
[06:20] <hunteke> alaa: regarding winxp serv pack being easier and ubuntu being complicated, I might point out that it's because  you don't know it, and you are familiar with WinXP
[06:20] <Pelo> alaa,  the caracter repeats are annoying
[06:20] <alaa> pelo : thank you buddy
[06:20] <JKirk_> jkirkn
[06:20] <Pelo> alaa,  share and enjoy
[06:20] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: send me ID so I can add buddy
[06:20] <JKirk_> I tried adding mistertibbs
[06:20] <alaa> pelo now how i get the yahooo msn
[06:20] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: seattlechaz@hotmail.com
[06:21] <alaa> Pelo . how can i install yahoo msn
[06:21] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: send u id
[06:21] <Pelo> alaa,  you have msn,  I think gaim handles yahoo, but I am not sure,  check in the applicatiosn menu
[06:21] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, ??? jkirkn@yahoo.com that?
[06:21] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: wait
[06:21] <IdleOne> Pelo, it does
[06:21] <alaa> pelo i donot like gaim
[06:22] <hunteke> sloucher: no, haven't experienced that, but I have experienced a cracked box refusing to do certain things
[06:22] <hunteke> like ls of certain directories
[06:22] <hunteke> and ps or top commands
[06:22] <alaa> pelo isnot there any other way to install yahoo
[06:22] <Pelo> thank you idle, I know nothing about instant msging applications,  they are the spawn of the devil
[06:22] <Kent_> gaim handles yahoo chat, no cam / mic support though
[06:22] <alaa> Peelo thanks again man
[06:22] <Pelo> alaa,  I do not know,  look in www.ubuntuforums.org, search for it  see if anything comes up
[06:22] <IdleOne> Pelo, indeed they are but my kids like them so I check them out also
[06:23] <alaa> Pelo : you know how to use that terminal thing?
[06:23] <Pelo> alaa,  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[06:23] <IdleOne> Pelo, they are overrated lol
[06:23] <sloucher> hunteke: that's a thought. It's onlly when there's long output though. Like ps -u will work because it's only a couple of lines.
[06:24] <IdleOne> hehe that terminal thing
[06:24] <kyncani> Pelo: IdleOne is now a bot, hence his kids surely are little linux boxens
[06:24] <royel> Hey, I'm looking to setup a PDC with roaming profiles, clients will be both linux and win(xp), I'm confused about whether to use NFS or Samba, I've read something about samba not liking roaming profiles, perhaps someone could confirm this or knows of a good tutorial on this exact thing?
[06:24] <hunteke> sloucher: huh.  not sure what to tell you.  I assume you've googled?
[06:24] <Pelo> IdleOne,  I remember when I taught swimming I had to keep up on the saturday morning kids shows so I could relate to my pupils
[06:24] <hunteke> you might get on the openssh mailing list and ask
[06:24] <thoreauputic> IdleOne: terminal case I fear ;)
[06:24] <Twomby> Anybody here familiar with truecrypt and Forcefield ?
[06:25] <sloucher> hunteke: googling now
[06:25] <hunteke> let me know what you find, eh sloucher? I'd be curious
[06:25] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, you still here?
[06:25] <IdleOne> thoreauputic, :) Pelo kyncani we should all know better then to be offtopic :)
[06:25] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: coldaloof@yahoo.com
[06:25] <Pelo> Twomby,  I'm going out on a limb here but I assume they have channels
[06:25] <hunteke> (but not curious enough to do the work myself, I suppose!)
[06:25] <alaa> PELO : thanks buddy
[06:25] <Twomby> Pelo : Can't find any... :/
[06:25] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:25] <Pelo> IdleOne,  we're safe the op is on our siide
[06:26] <w30> Pelo, ha, when I became a grandfather I got introduced to SpongeBob and TeleTubbies etc.
[06:26] <Zelest> For some reason, Ubuntu puts my NIC into 10mbit half-duplex.. I've had it using 100mbit full-duplex in both Windows and FreeBSD.. why is this and how can I change it? I tried "sudo ifconfig eth0 media 100baseTX" and got "port: SIOCSIFMAP: Operation not supported" .. what does that mean?
[06:26] <IdleOne> Pelo, true
[06:26] <Pelo> Twomby,  google for their site  they might have a faq or a forum
[06:26] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, doesn't work :( won't let me add that
[06:26] <IdleOne> w30, telletubbies is evil. dont let the kids watch it
[06:26] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, says it's not on the serverlist
[06:26] <IdleOne> on that note...goodnight folks
[06:26] <scipio> Twomby: i installed trucrypt following a howto in the forums. works ok
[06:26] <Twomby> yeah, been there, done that, I guess I'll just have to be a little more patient : ) Thanks though !
[06:26] <Pelo> w30,  you have my sympaties,  but it's fun to see them smile mind
[06:26] <w30> IdleOne, Jerry Farwell sure didn't like it.
[06:26] <Pelo> g'night IdleOne
[06:27] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: run gaim.  add your yahoo account add me to buddy list and send message
[06:27] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, k... just tried
[06:27] <IdleOne> w30, any show that speaks to your children like they are idiots is evil... I want my kids speaking a REAL language and not making stupid sounds all day long
[06:28] <Twomby> scipio : I installed it fine too.  I created a volume under Windows, but can't access it under ubuntu
[06:28] <IdleOne> ok now Im out
[06:28] <kahrytan> Anyone know where I can get zlib package?
[06:28] <IdleOne> night to all and happy Ubuntu'ing
[06:28] <Pelo> IdleOne,  how do you feel about shows that talk to adults like they are idots ? we've just covered most of network and cable tv
[06:28] <royel> Pelo: lol
[06:29] <kyncani> kahrytan: apt-cache search -n zlib ?
[06:29] <scipio> Twomby: i have the exact same setup but it works for me. sadly i don't know much about how i made it to work.
[06:29] <caner> there is a problem with the scim input method. i writes normal latin alphabet in some programs and uses a weird alphabet in some programs. how can i set it stable to normal english alphabet?
[06:29] <royel> w30: dont turn it off
[06:29] <scipio> Twomby: so i guess i can't help you much more than to confirm that it's possible
[06:29] <astro76> !info zlib1g | kahrytan this one?
[06:29] <ubot3> kahrytan this one?: zlib1g: compression library - runtime. In component main, is required. Version 1:1.2.3-13ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 172 kB
[06:29] <Zelest> Anyone? :(
[06:30] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, ??? do you get the msg?
[06:30] <kahrytan> astro76: the one clamav needs
[06:30] <Pelo> Zelest,  anyone what ?
[06:30] <Twomby> scipio : Thanks, I know I'll get it to work someday.. I was rather looking for a shortcut instead of having to read a lot, I'm in a little hurry :)
[06:30] <Rprp> I just made my USB bootable with feisty (This how-to: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/ubuntu-feisty-on-your-usb-drive-finally/) but, is it possible to 'install' ubuntu on a USB drive? SO i can run apache, mysql, and php ?
[06:30] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: wait
[06:30] <w30> royel, it's one of those stupid hp jobs.
[06:30] <Pelo> w30,  the graphical one is not an aption i take it ?
[06:30] <royel> w30: what command are you issuing, or are you using the reboot button from within a DE?
[06:30] <Zelest> Pelo, Who knows why Ubuntu can't use my realtek card in 100mbit full-duplex when both Windows and FreeBSD can.. :(
[06:30] <scipio> Twomby: good luck :)
[06:30] <astro76> kahrytan, that's the one then, should be auto installed when you install clamav, in fact it should be installed by default in feisty
[06:31] <kyncani> kahrytan: if you install clamav, it will automatically pull in zlib1g
[06:31] <J-_> !xorg
[06:31] <ubot3> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:31] <The_Band-aid> Zelest: do you have the correct drivers installed
[06:31] <Twomby> scipio : Do you use the Gui (Forcefield) or the command line interfaace ?
[06:31] <w30> royel, all of them the graphical and or the command line "reboot"
[06:31] <Pelo> Zelest, probably jsut a config thing, look up the card model in the forum and see if there are any instrucions
[06:31] <kahrytan> astro76: compiling it.
[06:31] <scipio> Twomby: command line
[06:31] <EJ> im looking for a web interface for MySQL to use with Feisty, any suggestions other than webmin ?
[06:31] <jmg> hey all
[06:31] <kahrytan> astro76: I prefer to keep antivirus updated
[06:31] <royel> w30: certainly won't make a difference I'm sure, but maybe try: sudo shutdown -r now
[06:31] <jmg> !dvdrip
[06:31] <scipio> Twomby: basically i only use one command to mount the volume since i created it in windows using gui
[06:32] <Twomby> scipio : let's say I have a volue mounted on sda6
[06:32] <Zelest> The_Band-aid, No clue.. I use the default kernel.
[06:32] <Twomby> *a volume
[06:32] <w30> royel, shutdown works just fine graphical and command line
[06:32] <Zelest> Pelo, Will do.
[06:32] <Twomby> how would you do it  with a command line ?  I tried via forcefield but to no avail.  I can't quite grasp all the logic, I feel a little stupid ;)
[06:32] <Pelo> g'night folk
[06:32] <royel> w30: shutdown -r  gives the flag to reboot
[06:32] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: i sent pm on yahoo
[06:32] <Twomby> g'night Pelo !
[06:32] <JKirk_> how do I install the "plugins" to allow dvd playback in movie player or gxine?
[06:32] <Rprp> I just made my USB bootable with feisty (This how-to: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/ubuntu-feisty-on-your-usb-drive-finally/) but, is it possible to 'install' ubuntu on a USB drive? SO i can run apache, mysql, and php ?
[06:33] <w30> royel, errr I never tried shutdown -r ; Is that a reboot command?
[06:33] <alaa> pello:
[06:33] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, didn't get it :(
[06:33] <alaa> good night
[06:33] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: sorry.  ok we do this here.
[06:33] <alaa> pelo: thanks again
[06:33] <astro76> !dvd | JKirk_
[06:33] <ubot3> JKirk_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:33] <astro76> JKirk_, libdvdcss2 is what you need
[06:33] <alaa> ANY one knows how to download java for games
[06:33] <scipio> Twomby: give me one minute please to reboot in linux to give you the exact syntax :)
[06:33] <scipio> brb
[06:34] <astro76> !java | alaa
[06:34] <ubot3> alaa: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:34] <royel> w30: it's a bit of an overkill for a single user system since I'm sure you know it's rebooting, but yes ": shutdown -r now" broadcasts a message to users an -r flags to reboot.
[06:34] <kahrytan> !medibuntu | jkirk
[06:34] <ubot3> jkirk: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[06:34] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, it says you are offline
[06:34] <The_Band-aid> jKirk_: you'll have to download the package manually off that guy's website and install it using dpkg -i
[06:34] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: wait.
[06:34] <Twomby> scipio : That would be greatly appreciated !!!!!
[06:34] <alaa> ubunto3: thanks
[06:34] <kahrytan> JKirk_: Use Medibuntu.
[06:34] <J-_> How much video memory does a nvidia geforce fx5200 have?
[06:34] <EJ> im looking for a web interface for MySQL to use with Feisty, any suggestions other than webmin ?
[06:34] <kahrytan> J-_: Mine has 128mb
[06:34] <jmg> J-_: mine as 64mb
[06:35] <J-_> ...
[06:35] <MISTERTibbs> my yahoo/gaim status is available
[06:35] <kahrytan> jmg: haha
[06:35] <w30> royel, when I issue the reboot command the box won't restart and I have to crawl under my desk and pull the plug.
[06:35] <JKirk_> mediabuntu?
[06:35] <royel> w30: lol, what a pain :)
[06:35] <JKirk_> medibuntu?
[06:35] <kahrytan> jmg: I got MSI fx5200 with 128mb
[06:35] <astro76> EJ, phpmyadmin
[06:35] <kahrytan> !medibuntu | JKirk_
[06:35] <ubot3> JKirk_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[06:35] <w30> royel, but the box stays lit up
[06:35] <jmg> kahrytan: pci here
[06:36] <royel> w30: might be worth looking in the bios
[06:36] <alaa> Anyone knows how to use the  terminal
[06:36] <kahrytan> jmg: AGP
[06:36] <EJ> [ astro76] : i have phpmyadmin installed, does that allow me to create mysql databases via web interface ?
[06:36] <weston> hey guys, how do i tell if I have i386 or 64 bit installed of ubuntu?
[06:36] <kahrytan> JKirk_: I just reinstalled and medibuntu is a real help
[06:36] <astro76> EJ, indeed
[06:36] <wnet> Gay_cari_cowok
[06:36] <alaa> i wanna exctract  amsn program i downloaded  in terminal
[06:37] <The_Band-aid> alaa: what format is it
[06:37] <astro76> alaa, I thought pelo helped you successfully install amsn through synaptic??
[06:37] <cables> I accidentally ended up with no home directory on this new system I'm setting up. How do I create it in recovery mode?
[06:37] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: i have yahoo happy face.  send message
[06:38] <royel> w30: for some reason I am thinking of that "soft power-off" option, or something similiarly named could be of some trouble, And then I've been known to be wrong... a couple times.
[06:38] <JKirk_> MISTERTibbs, oh..I wasn't activated I guess
[06:38] <MISTERTibbs> JKirk_: :)
[06:39] <astro76> cables, try useradd
[06:39] <scipio> Twomby, ok it's easy: trucrypt /mnt/shared/xxxx /mnt/tc         (the /mnt/shared/xxxx is the location and name of the volume you want to mount)
[06:39] <cables> astro76, ok, thanks
[06:39] <weston> hey guys how dio i find out if i have i386 ubuntu or amd 64 ubuntu unstalled?
[06:39] <kyncani> weston: apt-cache show --installed linux, look at the architecture field
[06:40] <w30> royel, you are thinking soft power off option in bios somewhere?
[06:41] <skrypt> Can someone link me to a How To on upgrading from pidgin 2.0.1 to pidgin 2.1
[06:41] <royel> w30: yes, might be of no use, but can't hurt to look.
[06:41] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'environment' in man env: "Set each NAME to VALUE in the environment and run COMMAND."?
[06:41] <w30> royel, or are you thinking of a Ubuntu config file womewhere?
[06:42] <mttr> can't seem to get hybernate or sleep to work on my feisty on a p5b deluxe mb
[06:42] <royel> w30: in the bios
[06:42] <alaa> Helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllp
[06:42] <alaa> Anyone plzzzzzzzzz
[06:42] <w30> royel, when I leave #ubuntu I will check that, thanks
[06:42] <Twomby> scipio : Thanks a lot !! I'll give it a try in a few minutes, and I'll give you some news !! I really appreciate it !!
[06:42] <alaa> what does this message  means Could not open the file /home/alaa/Desktop/jre-6u2-linux-i586-rpm(2).bin.
[06:42] <scipio> Twomby, no problem
[06:42] <astro76> bullgard4, printenv will show the "environment variables"
[06:42] <alaa> HOW CAN I EXCTRACT IT
[06:43] <royel> alaa: normally the first thing I do when someone comes in spamming useless text as yourself is ignore them, you were lucky tonite an got a bit of my bad mood.
[06:43] <astro76> alaa, java is also available in synaptic
[06:43] <royel> w30: hopefully it will be of some use, gl
[06:43] <alaa> astro : thanks
[06:43] <alaa> astro?
[06:44] <alaa> Astro : not because you know and  we donot know  you trat us as a teacher
[06:44] <alaa> Astro: thanks again but plz donot ignore me
[06:44] <firebird619> Is there something that can be put into .asoundrc to get sound from both hw:0,0 and hw:0,1 at the same time?
[06:44] <royel> alaa: you've downloaded a red hat package, use synaptic or apt-get.
[06:44] <royel> !java | alaa
[06:44] <ubot3> alaa: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:45] <alaa> Astro: am lost in that site you gave me
[06:45] <astro76> alaa, just go to synaptic and search for sun-java6-jre and install it
[06:45] <alaa> Astro: i think i will shoot myu self
[06:45] <alaa> Astro : thanks buddy
[06:46] <w30> alaa, I think you have type sh /home/alaa/Desktop/jre-6u2-linux-i586-rpm(2).bin
[06:46] <Rprp> I just made my USB bootable with feisty (This how-to: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/ubuntu-feisty-on-your-usb-drive-finally/) but, is it possible to 'install' ubuntu on a USB drive? SO i can run apache, mysql, and php ?
[06:46] <gaas> alaa: can also do 'apt-cache search sun-java6-jre'
[06:46] <weston> whats the diff between sun java 5 and 6?
[06:46] <zoexii> what is the command to display my ip address?
[06:46] <alaa> PPl: plz yellow ppl i am lost what shall i doo
[06:46] <astro76> w30, no reason to install a java rpm
[06:46] <royel> zoexii: ifconfig
[06:46] <zoexii> royel, cool,
[06:46] <zoexii> thanks
[06:47] <gaas> Rprp: have you checked out portableapps.com ?
[06:47] <Twomby> Rprp : I'm curious as to why you would like to run apache off a usb drive?
[06:47] <astro76> alaa, what is the problem?
[06:47] <gaas> zoexii: ifconfig (as root or sudo)
[06:47] <alaa> Am Losst
[06:47] <w30> alaa or else chmod ugoa+x <the bin file name>  then just type the file name
[06:47] <JKirk_> kahrytan, I followed the repository how-to on medibuntu ... now what?
[06:47] <Rprp> Twomby: Im gonna take a holiday, And i want to test some PHP files etc ...
[06:47] <astro76> alaa, what is the problem?
[06:47] <w30> alaa, you are on an rpm distro? right?
[06:47] <astro76> he's on ubuntu!
[06:48] <cables> How do I find the permissions of a folder from the terminal, then apply them to another folder with a similar format?
[06:48] <gaas> Rprp: portableapps  gives you a portable XAMPP server on a usb stick
[06:48] <alaa> Astro: am new her and this is really getting me so crazy from morning tell now and am tryoing to type in that termnial thing
[06:48] <royel> I assumed he is on Ubuntu asking support questions in a ubuntu support channel :)
[06:48] <Twomby> Rprp : I see!!  I'm no experience user here, I was simply curious :)
[06:48] <jetole> hey guys, I am trying to grab the ubuntu kernel source code with apt-get source linux-image-generic and apt is giving me errors such as this => Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-meta_2.6.20.16.28.1.dsc  Could not open file linux-meta_2.6.20.16.28.1.dsc - open (2 No such file or directory)
[06:48] <alaa> What rpmmmmm
[06:48] <jetole> does anyone know why, I did a apt-get update first and it's not telling me that it's an unknown package
[06:48] <kahrytan> JKirk_: Did you install packages?
[06:48] <alaa> Astro : this is the very first time am using this ubunto
[06:48] <astro76> alaa, forget the rpm, you opened synaptic before right? system>admin>synaptic package manager
[06:48] <w30> alaa, if you are on Ubuntu distro just delete that file and get a .deb package
[06:48] <royel> cables: ls -l
[06:49] <cables> royel, thanks
[06:49] <alaa> Astro i did
[06:49] <cables> royel, how do i apply those in a similar format?
[06:49] <alaa> Astro : i did open it
[06:49] <astro76> alaa, ok go there again, hit search, and enter sun-java6-jre
[06:49] <JKirk_> kahrytan, do I do it with synaptics?
[06:49] <zoexii> ok, hi, I want to let someone on the other side of the internet use my machine via vncviewer, but my machine is behind a cablemodem/router, do I give them the IP address of the modem for them to connect?
[06:49] <kahrytan> JKirk_: Yes
[06:49] <astro76> alaa, then check it, and click Apply to install
[06:50] <alaa> searshing
[06:50] <astro76> alaa, also please read this guide
[06:50] <astro76> !synaptic | alaa
[06:50] <ubot3> alaa: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:50] <gaas> zoexii: yes.  also setup the router to direct vnc traffic to the linux box
[06:50] <linux_> i can replave gnome with kde ?
[06:50] <alaa> astro: what is that termial thing
[06:50] <JKirk_> what do I install?
[06:50] <kahrytan> JKirk_: You can use apt-get in console too.
[06:50] <royel> cables: it's a bit confusing maybe.. but: sudo chmod ### /file/folder <-- where ### is replaced by the number of the permissions you wish to give
[06:50] <zoexii> gaas, this is called port forwarding? how do I know the port for vnc?
[06:50] <astro76> !terminal | alaa
[06:50] <ubot3> alaa: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:51] <JKirk_> should I do a search on restricted?
[06:51] <aldin> hi, can someone tell me what ! and x mean in /etc/group
[06:51] <kyncani> linux_: install packages kubuntu-desktop and kde and you're done
[06:51] <olrrai> do u know a program to edit an ISO image?
[06:51] <zoexii> gaas, and that would be modem firmware settings yes?
[06:51] <Kumaru> is there any good channel for Wine help?
[06:51] <gaas> zoexii: ususually 5900 or 5901.  see man page
[06:51] <linux_> kyncani , in kde i will have all my pakages that i have installed wirh synaptic ?
[06:51] <alaa> Astro: they are typing so fast  i could not read what you wrote
[06:52] <gaas> zoexii: modem 'firmware' - actually firewall
[06:52] <rosensturm> Is there a way to save the color settings I make using the nvidia x server settings dailog? When I restart or when the screensaver runs, the color settings go back to default.
[06:52] <skrypt> what's the command to get the build essentials?
[06:52] <kyncani> linux_: yes, but if you're using kde, you might consider using kde apps rather than gnome apps, they're better integrated with the desktop
[06:52] <alaa> Astro ? in system tools there is root terminal
[06:52] <alaa> Astro : what is root and normal
[06:52] <zoexii> gaas, ok, but I change firewall settings in the modem firmware, or does Ubuntu have a default firewall too?
[06:52] <kahrytan> JKirk_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[06:52] <gaas> skrypt: apt-get install build-essential
[06:53] <SyNiK> rosensturm: run "sudo nvidia-settings" then save the configuration file before exiting, this should save your color settings on reboot.
[06:53] <astro76> alaa, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:53] <kahrytan> JKirk_: Follow that link and instructions (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu)
[06:53] <|_ocke> it seems since i upgraded to feisty i no longer have getty and therefore have no login prompt on ctrl-alt-f1-6
[06:53] <gaas> zoexii: usually with some web front end accessed by navigating to http://192.168.0.1 (or something like that)
[06:53] <|_ocke> and tehrefore cant login to the system except in kdm or in recovery mode (which works fine)
[06:53] <|_ocke> however i cant install nvidia drivers in recovery mode
[06:54] <weredragon> Does Ubuntu, create a harddrive partition, when installed.  So when you boot up the computer you have a choice about which OS to run.  If so does it keep all of your old files on the original OS?
[06:54] <gaas> weredragon: yes
[06:54] <weredragon> Thank you :)
[06:54] <alaa> Asro : am sorry for giving you hard time  but you are ppl so wounderfull
[06:54] <rosensturm> SyNiK, I see nothing about saving a configuration file.
[06:54] <Kumaru> gaas seriously?
[06:54] <|_ocke> also, i have no /etc/inittab
[06:55] <gaas> Kumaru: yes... you just need to kind of know what you are doing when you set up the partitions
[06:55] <alaa> astro : you and pelo are my best ubunto friends
[06:55] <astro76> |_ocke, ubuntu uses upstart now
[06:55] <JKirk_> kahrytan, I've got libdvdcss2 installed already... but totem movie player won't play dvd :(
[06:55] <Kumaru> gaas: i see
[06:55] <gaas> weredragon: have you performed the install already?
[06:55] <weredragon> gaas: No.
[06:55] <SyNiK> rosensturm: i haven't got nvidia-settings in front of me, but its there, something like save settings to xorg configuration file or something, but you need to run it as "su" (root) so that it has the permissions to edit that file.
[06:55] <kahrytan> JKirk_: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[06:55] <kyncani> |_ocke: upstart does not use inittab i think
[06:55] <weredragon> I was worried about loosing my files.
[06:56] <gaas> weredragon: first of all - back up all your important files on some other media.  Then..
[06:56] <alaa> Astro: you know the commands where i can use
[06:56] <|_ocke> astro76, what is upstart? and what does it have to do with no getty running and no possibility to login except in graphical mode?
[06:56] <gaas> weredragon: with that saftey net in place - go ahead and partition your hard drive
[06:56] <gaas> brb
[06:56] <astro76> |_ocke, it's a replacement for init: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[06:56] <weredragon> And thats where I am stumped.
[06:56] <|_ocke> ctrl-alt-f1 shows the startup messages, ending with a message about ALSA, which was the last before the gui loaded
[06:56] <rosensturm> SyNiK, I see it now but it doesn't seem to save anything about the color settings.
[06:57] <Penguinsaremyfri> Anyone know where to get gdesklets? Their site is not working. Or a better widget alternative if there is one
[06:57] <scipio> weredragon,  if you don't have the partitions already done it's best to backup data before doing that. only because partitioning a hard with data on it may cause data loss. run a disk defrag so all your data it's on one end of the hard
[06:57] <alaa> Astro friend:
[06:57] <MasterShrek> Penguinsaremyfri, screenlets
[06:57] <astro76> |_ocke, and has nothing to do with getty not running
[06:57] <MasterShrek> !screenlets | Penguinsaremyfri
[06:57] <ubot3> Factoid screenlets not found
[06:57] <JKirk_> when I try gxine I get an error about no demuxer
[06:57] <|_ocke> hmm.. why could getty not be running after upgrading to 7.04?
[06:57] <Penguinsaremyfri> Ok, I will look at that one. Thanks
[06:57] <bullgard4> astro76: Thank you for your answer. But I would like to know what Linux considers that 'environment variables' are. Other operationg systems understand 'environment variables' differently.
[06:57] <Dankmizter> Im a 100% new user to Linux os. Im using Ubuntu 7.04. where is a good place to learn what I can do with linux
[06:58] <weredragon> scipio: Ah ok.  Because right now I have ubuntu running on a virtual machine, before I was going to go ahead and install it.
[06:58] <Dankmizter> the help file just leads me in circles.
[06:58] <SyNiK> rosensturm: it should do, i havent tried it recently but make sure you are running it with sudo and test to see if the settings are still there after an X restart (ctrl+alt+backspce).
[06:58] <|_ocke> i really really need to be able to login without x running :P
[06:58] <|_ocke> if i manually kill it or stop kdm from running on startup, i simply cant login and it sits on the last message before it would load normally
[06:58] <kahrytan> JKirk_:  You install gstreamer codecs yet?
[06:58] <LuiCal> hello guys, i need technical support with openoffice, please help
[06:59] <scipio> weredragon, yes, basically the partioning process is what might cause data loss. after that is done you just point the ubuntu install to the right partion and it won't touch your windows stuff
[06:59] <Twomby> scipio : Everything works fine !!! Thanks a bunch !!!!!
[06:59] <JKirk_> found the answer ...had to install libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:59] <alaa> Asro : thanks for your wounderfull help
[06:59] <scipio> Twomby, excellent :)
[06:59] <gaas> weredragon: depending on how your files are distributed throughout your harddrive will you be able to split up your hard drive well
[06:59] <|_ocke> i can still switch between terminals with ctrl alt f1-6, but 2-6 are just blank with a cursor and 1 is the startup output
[06:59] <kahrytan> JKirk_: You should grab VideoLAN (vlc)
[06:59] <Kumaru> well, i just made the stupid mistake of hitting ctrl alt and backspace to see what would happen
[06:59] <astro76> bullgard4, that's basically it, a bunch of shell variables
[06:59] <weredragon> Thanks gaas and scipio, I'll go run the defrag.
[06:59] <LuiCal> please help me with openoffice issues
[06:59] <kahrytan> JKirk_: No nonsense video player. Doesnt rely on codecs installed.
[06:59] <kyncani> |_ocke: upstart should have provided the ttys i think. If not, look into /etc/event.d, the command line to get ttys are there
[06:59] <weredragon> And back up my files.
[06:59] <SyNiK> Kumaru: lol, now you know ;)
[06:59] <gaas> weredragon: have you tried using a livecd just to make sure you really want to install ubunutu?
[07:00] <JKirk_> I've got vlc... first one I tried...works fine...but it's semi-transparent in full screen... looks wierd
[07:00] <bullgard4> astro76: Thank you.
[07:00] <weredragon> gaas: Yes, I have ubuntu running on a virtual machine.
[07:00] <weredragon> I like it a lot.
[07:00] <astro76> JKirk_, that's strange, vlc is a better choice for dvd, since it does menus and everything right
[07:00] <|_ocke> kyncani, /etc/event.d/tty1 contains "start on runlevel 2 - 5, stop on 0 1 and 6
[07:01] <astro76> |_ocke, sounds right, then 'respawn' and 'exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1' ?
[07:01] <gaas> weredragon: virtual machine... on what operating system?
[07:01] <|_ocke> astro76, yes
[07:01] <weredragon> Windows.
[07:02] <Penguinsaremyfri> screenlets.org is not working either
[07:02] <gaas> weredragon: hmm... is that with vmware?
[07:02] <Ann> hi
[07:02] <d0lph1nK1ng> i installed network-manager vpnc plugin to connect to my schools Cisco IPSec VPN network for my mail.  thunderbird downloads my IMAP folders, but not any messages.  any ideas?
[07:02] <Kumaru> VLC FTW
[07:02] <m4st3r> Ann//hi
[07:02] <weredragon> Quite correct.
[07:02] <kyncani> |_ocke: yes, so you should have had a tty as i understand it. Nevertheless, log into X, then ( sudo getty 38400 tty1 & ) should give you a tty
[07:02] <|_ocke> i just tried running 'sudo exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1' manually and it said exec not found
[07:02] <m4st3r>   
[07:02] <Ann> 
[07:02] <Ann>  
[07:02] <weredragon> I tried two others, before I got one to work though.
[07:02] <m4st3r> 
[07:02] <royel> |_ocke: I'm curious why you didnt use the server install flavor if you dont need the gui?
[07:02] <rosensturm> SyNiK, just tried, nothing.
[07:02] <Ann>   
[07:02] <Ann> ?
[07:02] <Ann> ..
[07:02] <Geek_> ...
[07:02] <m4st3r> 
[07:02] <astro76> !english | Ann m4st3r
[07:02] <ubot3> Ann m4st3r: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:03] <|_ocke> royel, i didnt say i dont need the gui, i use the gui, and am trying to get my opengl support back
[07:03] <m4st3r>   ;;
[07:03] <Ann> astro76 / okok
[07:03] <SyNiK> rosensturm: sorry bud, i'm fresh out of ideas
[07:03] <royel> |_ocke: ah
[07:03] <|_ocke> but i cannot install nvidia drivers without being in command mode with x stopped
[07:03] <m4st3r>        
[07:03] <m4st3r> astro76//sorry
[07:03] <hiroshiX> is there korean chess for linux?
[07:03] <Ann> um..
[07:03] <kyncani> |_ocke: right ..
[07:03] <|_ocke> kyncani, it worked! finally
[07:03] <Ann> linux?
[07:03] <gaas> with my dabbling with virtual machines, there's definitley a performance hit.  You'll see it'll run much faster in "reality"
[07:04] <kyncani> |_ocke: how's that ?
[07:04] <Hail_Spacecake> does the livecd version of ubuntu come with the dd command?
[07:04] <astro76> |_ocke, that doesn't sound good, exec is a bash built-in
[07:04] <alaa> Thanks Yellow ppl for helping me
[07:04] <Penguinsaremyfri> Anyone know a good desklet/widget engine
[07:04] <gaas> Ann: yes ... we are discussing linux
[07:04] <Ann> um..
[07:04] <|_ocke> should i change the line in event.d/tty1 to not include 'exec' since it doesnt seem to be working..
[07:04] <Ann> I'm sorry
[07:04] <|_ocke> and i dont u nderstand why it wouldnt exist either
[07:04] <kyncani> |_ocke: nope !
[07:04] <weredragon> gaas: Yea, though I tried using QEMU, and Virtual Box.
[07:04] <LuiCal> please help me with openoffice my issue, ive finally installed my printer and it works fine when i test it with CUPS, but when i try to print an openoffice document, a printer logo appears in my pannel for a few second and then disappears, and nothing happens, please help
[07:04] <Ann> Do you speak easily Please
[07:04] <weredragon> VMware seems to be a good virtual machine for it.
[07:04] <|_ocke> i gotta get these drivers installed before something else screws up, ill brb
[07:04] <kyncani> |_ocke: exec is the marker for the command line upstart should run when the event appear
[07:05] <varun0> gaas: AFAIK, if you use a newer proc with virtualization extensions, it's pretty close to realtime
[07:05] <hiroshiX> is there chinese chess for linux?
[07:05] <gaas> weredragon: Yup.. I used QEMU to run damnsmalllinux.
[07:05] <ari_stress> hiroshiX: what is chinese chess?
[07:05] <|_ocke> k back in a min
[07:05] <gaas> varun0: I thought DSL was a little sluggish.  Maybe it's jjust my system
[07:06] <zoexii> ok, so I think I set up port forwarding to let someone with vnc view my desktop, is there any good way to test if it works?
[07:06] <hiroshiX> it's similar to regular chess, but it has some different pieces and a different board layout... plus they are round pieces labeled with chinese characters
[07:06] <Penguinsaremyfri> Anyone know a good desklet/widget engine for linux?
[07:06] <varun0> gaas: DSL?
[07:06] <CheeseGardener> I typed in sudo time fsck -p -f /dev/sdb1, but for some reason the terminal seems to be doing things, but isn't displaying any text or a time left.  Why is this???
[07:06] <|_ocke> i logged in on tty1 and it says -bash: no job control in this shell
[07:06] <gaas> varun0: damnsmalllinux.  I ran this distro of linux with QEMU
[07:07] <LuiCal> please help me with my openoffice issue
[07:07] <varun0> gaas: ahhh.....sorry.....my bad.
[07:07] <LuiCal> please
[07:07] <hiroshiX> it's also called qianhong
[07:07] <gaas> varun0: damnsmalllinux is a great portable distro
[07:07] <varun0> gaas: what proc do you have?
[07:07] <kyncani> Penguinsaremyfri: gnome -> gdesklets, kde -> superkaramba. Don't like none of them though
[07:07] <varun0> gaas: haha......yea I've heard of it, just never heard it called DSL :-)
[07:07] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know what is happening?  is it checking my drive?
[07:07] <gaas> varun0: some cheapo AMD turion 64 processor
[07:07] <hiroshiX> xiangqi
[07:07] <CheeseGardener> Or why perhaps it isn't displaying a time?
[07:07] <IN1HIT|spatchE> ok
[07:08] <scipio> LuiCal, just an idea since i'm also kinda new but did you check if openoffice uses the right printer when it tries to print?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> CheeseGardener: as far as I know "time" only displays a time when the command finishes
[07:08] <|_ocke> ok, in the shell i tried sudo NVIDIA-100whatever and it is not runnign and i cant ctrl c
[07:08] <astro76> CheeseGardener, I would guess it's running, time displays nothing until the command finishes
[07:08] <Penguinsaremyfri> thanks
[07:08] <gaas> varun0: I know this is offtopic, but if you've got an old computer that you want to make usefull - DSL is the way to go
[07:08] <CheeseGardener> oh ok astro
[07:08] <LuiCal> yeah, it is using the rigth printer
[07:08] <rosensturm> SyNiK, I see I just have to add "nvidia-settings -l" to my startup.
[07:08] <CheeseGardener> the command isn't displaying anything though, astro76.  It seems to be working though
[07:08] <varun0> gaas: so I've heard
[07:08] <IN1HIT|spatchE> How do I install my NVIDIA driver for a 6600gt
[07:09] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[07:09] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:09] <kyncani> !nvidia | |_jocke
[07:09] <ubot3> |_jocke: please see above
[07:09] <|_ocke> ok so, i came back to the gui terminal i launched the getty process from and i ctrl c fromt here
[07:09] <LuiCal> can someone help me please? i cannot print openoffice docs
[07:09] <varun0> gaas: never had a chance to try it. I have a P166 lying around, I should give it a shot
[07:09] <gaas> LuiCal: can you print with other applications?
[07:10] <CheeseGardener> astro76, as long as the light is going on the drive, then it is doing something to it right?
[07:10] <LuiCal> well when i installed the drivers, cups made a test print, and it was fine
[07:10] <gaas> varun0: the really cool think about it is that they really found the best apps for a slow machine.. in the end, though - it was just a novelty for me
[07:10] <astro76> CheeseGardener, yeah
[07:10] <Gh0st> Geek_: I'm using the CD right now.
[07:10] <|_ocke> kyncani, so, im not running gnome, im running kde, how can i get to the restricted driver manager?
[07:11] <Geek_> Gh0st: liveCD?
[07:11] <gaas> LuiCal: Can you still successfully print a test page from CUPS?
[07:11] <astro76> |_ocke, you need to install the package restricted-manager
[07:11] <[MooN] > Do anybody have an idea why I cant see movie files while I use Beryl themes, but works fine when I use default Gnome theme?:)
[07:11] <Gh0st> GeeK_: I did what you said a partitioned using Vista. Then, booted Ubuntu via LiveCd. When I go to install on drive, I go to about step 4 when it goes into partioning.
[07:11] <|_ocke> oh hmm
[07:11] <thoreauputic> [MooN] : try a different driver ( X11 etc) in the preferences
[07:11] <|_ocke> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:11] <|_ocke> perhaps that is my problem
[07:11] <LuiCal> yep i can
[07:12] <[MooN] > thoreauputic: Okay, thanks:)
[07:12] <|_ocke> im gonna let that finish and get a beer in the meantime
[07:12] <Geek_> Gh0st: at step 1, it mentions an alternate install method, does it not? you used that right?
[07:12] <|_ocke> brb
[07:12] <scipio> LuiCal, can you open the file with another aplication and try to print from there? maybe even convert it to pdf? or try to search on the forums for your specific printer to see if anyone else had the same problems
[07:12] <thoreauputic> [MooN] : various movie apps vary in their prefs
[07:12] <Geek_> (going off memory)
[07:12] <Gh0st> Um...Hold on. Let me see.
[07:13] <LuiCal> let me see
[07:13] <skrypt> How do I add stuff to the "start" menu
[07:13] <MasterShrek> skrypt, right click it
[07:13] <Gh0st> Ready to install? Once you answer a few questions, the contents of the live CD can be installed on this computer so you can run the system at full speed and without the CD.
[07:13] <Gh0st> Answering the questions should only take a few minutes.
[07:13] <Gh0st> Please choose the language used for the installation process. This language will be the default language for the final system.
[07:13] <Gh0st> That's what it says at step one.
[07:13] <thoreauputic> skrypt: right click, menu editor
[07:13] <skrypt> ty
[07:13] <scipio> skrypt, go to system-preferences-main menu
[07:14] <Gh0st> After I choose English, it asks me to choose the time zone.
[07:14] <scipio> or that
[07:14] <scipio> :)
[07:14] <rives> i have 2 hard drives one master one slave one is running ubuntu(this reive and the other is blank and currently formatted to ntfs
[07:14] <Gh0st> After the time zone, it asks me to choose the type to keyboard.
[07:14] <rives> 	at the moment i dont have any permisions to save data and the second drive
[07:14] <rives> i was wondering if i needed to refomat it or if any one knew how to reset the permissions on the other dive
[07:14] <rives> its not as simple as right clicking
[07:15] <rives> unless im missing some thing
[07:15] <kyncani> !ntfs | rives
[07:15] <ubot3> rives: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:15] <weston> whats the flash plugin for firefox?
[07:15] <MasterShrek> rives, is there a reason it is ntfs?
[07:15] <Gh0st> After keyboard, it goes into Partitioner. Now, I have two choices: Guided  use entire disk & Manual.
[07:15] <rives> no
[07:15] <Gh0st> Do I choose Manual?
[07:15] <MasterShrek> making it a linux fs would be a better option
[07:15] <astro76> weston, flashplugin-nonfree
[07:15] <MasterShrek> ext3 never has to be defragmented
[07:15] <rives> the os(sin2k) failed and i tryed to reinstate file sys to recover
[07:15] <gaas> rives: you need to give your self write permissions to the mount point, I think for starters.. Also - it should be mounted read-write in the /etc/fstab file
[07:15] <orbisvicis> !crontb
[07:15] <ubot3> Factoid crontb not found
[07:15] <rives> ... it failed
[07:16] <orbisvicis> !crontab
[07:16] <ubot3> Factoid crontab not found
[07:16] <rives> all data was lost
[07:16] <orbisvicis> !cron
[07:16] <ubot3> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[07:16] <Sithe> Does anyone know if ATI Drivers mess up Ubuntu for good? Someone just told me that
[07:16] <rives> that i can deal with
[07:16] <Geek_> !ati
[07:16] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:16] <orbisvicis> i hear a lot of people complain about ati drivers
[07:16] <Geek_> hmm
[07:16] <orbisvicis> the fglx ones i mean
[07:17] <Sithe> I installed an ATI driver.. then uninstalled it then installed the fglx.. and now I dont have the right resolution
[07:17] <Gh0st> Geek_: I choose Manual, do I not?
[07:17] <m4st3r> When appear Ubuntu next version?
[07:17] <Geek_> Gh0st: definately yes
[07:17] <MasterShrek> rives, if you add your user to the disk group, you will be able to read and write to it (if it isnt ntfs) if you want it to be ntfs you must install and configure ntfs-3g
[07:18] <astro76> m4st3r, October, 7.10 = 10th month of 2007
[07:18] <MasterShrek> wow what was warty? 4.10?
[07:18] <Sithe>  installed an ATI driver.. then uninstalled it then installed the fglx.. and now I dont have the right resolution
[07:19] <Bogus8> why does a window go "black and white" but yet it's still functional?
[07:19] <MasterShrek> that will make exactly 3 years ive been using linux
[07:19] <MasterShrek> :)
[07:19] <[MooN] > Bogus8: It goes into zombie mode.
[07:19] <Bogus8> [MooN] : and that means?
[07:19] <Gh0st> GeeK_: I choose Manual. And... IT asks me to specify a partition for the root file system (mount point "/") with a minimum size of 2GB, and a swap partition of at least 256 MB.
[07:19] <marginoferror> MasterShrek: Is there a "proper" way to use the FUSE ntfs r/w driver in Ubuntu?  Something that avoids manually editing fstab?
[07:20] <Sithe>  installed an ATI driver.. then uninstalled it then installed the fglrx.. and now I dont have the right resolution
[07:20] <p1ls> yo whats a smiliar program to flasget?
[07:20] <Geek_> Gh0st: does it allow you to resize an excsisting partiton?
[07:20] <astro76> marginoferror, ntfs-config is a gui for ntfs-3g
[07:20] <MasterShrek> i believe so marginoferror , just run ntfs-3g /dev/[device]  /mount/point      i think
[07:20] <Gh0st> Um...As in Edit Partition?
[07:21] <Gh0st> *Geek_:
[07:21] <orbisvicis> !anaron
[07:21] <ubot3> Factoid anaron not found
[07:21] <orbisvicis> !anacron
[07:21] <ubot3> anacron: a cron-like program that doesn't go by time. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3-11ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 236 kB
[07:21] <marginoferror> Okay, I'll try those. Thanks astro76, MasterShrek
[07:21] <p1ls> yo whats a smiliar program to flasget?
[07:21] <orbisvicis> !atd
[07:21] <ubot3> Factoid atd not found
[07:22] <Geek_> Gh0st: yeah. use it to split the linux partition as needed...
[07:22] <p1ls> !atd
[07:22] <ubot3> Factoid atd not found
[07:22] <Geek_> then select mount points
[07:22] <p1ls> yo whats a smiliar program to flasget?
[07:22] <p1ls> ??!
[07:22] <Geek_> p1ls: I use DTA on FF and wget (not a download accelerator but damn useful)
[07:23] <p1ls> which one is with gui
[07:23] <Geek_> DTA
[07:23] <Gh0st> Geek_: Here's what it says when I choose to edit: 'New Partition size in Megabytes: 10485' 'Use as: ntfs' and 'Mount Point: /media/sda3'.
[07:24] <pmcnabb> is it possible to initiate a pxe boot remotely?
[07:24] <Geek_> ghost: it has a slider?
[07:24] <p1ls> how to install it sudo apt-get install dta?
[07:24] <Gh0st> Geek_: Yes.
[07:24] <Geek_> p1ls: no, through firefox
[07:24] <elfmage> I have a question about drivers    I know ubuntu fins all the drivers for install but what about new hardware
[07:24] <Geek_> Gh0st: use that to resize. for swap and /
[07:24] <Geek_> then you can reformat in next step i think
[07:25] <Gh0st> Geek_: So, what do I do? I'm not really following. Step-by-step, if you could?
[07:25] <Geek_> Gh0st: going off memory. use the slider to shrink the partition. create new partition. assign partitions to / and swap
[07:26] <CheeseGardener> Could someone help me decipher something terminal outputted?
[07:26] <p1ls> i need one that will show u all files of a webisite
[07:26] <kyncani> elfmage: new hardware are either already more or less supported by existing drivers or will be supported in gutsy (or not supported at all ...)
[07:26] <bullgard4> What does 'MM' mean in the environment variable 'MM_CHARSET'?
[07:26] <p1ls> does ff dta does that?
[07:26] <Geek_> firefox/Down Them All ;)
[07:27] <Gh0st> Geek_: Ok. So, editing the partition I made in windows, I change the size to...How's 500MB for swap, and the rest for Root File system?
[07:27] <CheeseGardener> I need some help trying to understand a 'fsck' report that terminal prompted me with...
[07:27] <Geek_> p1ls: err... wget will grab everything. DTA grabs all links
[07:27] <Geek_> Gh0st: rule of thumb is 2x ram for swap unless you have a lot of ram
[07:28] <|_ocke> k its still setting up packages, i bet that was the problem :P
[07:28] <Gh0st> Geek_: So...256 x2 = 512 MB for Swap?
[07:28] <luyi> sssss
[07:28] <Geek_> yeah
[07:28] <Geek_> too much swap is wasteful
[07:28] <|_ocke> Gh0st, i recommend more for that small amount of ram
[07:28] <p1ls> geek what about one that shows u files of website
[07:29] <CheeseGardener> Could someone help me read a 'fsck' report quickly?  it won't take long
[07:29] <Gh0st> Geek_: You mean 2x the amount of MY ram?
[07:29] <|_ocke> i had problems when i had 512, i imagine 768 would have made as much difference as 4gb, but i just was sick and tired of waiting 10 mins for it to swap data in and out of swap and mem
[07:29] <Frenchie> :)
[07:29] <astro76> Gh0st, yeah 1GB would be good for your swap
[07:29] <n2diy> CheeseGardener: pastebin it for us.
[07:29] <CheeseGardener> k brb
[07:29] <kyncani> |_ocke: buy more ram
[07:29] <ameyer> I have 128 MB of RAM and 298 MB of swap  on my lappy o_O
[07:29] <p1ls> geek what about one that shows u files of website
[07:29] <|_ocke> kyncani, i dont buy computer equipment
[07:30] <ameyer> apparently that's the way Debian automagically does things
[07:30] <Gh0st> Astro: >.< Haha. Um..How do I find my RAM? I forgot how much it was on this laptop.
[07:30] <|_ocke> mostly because i dont need to as i get all the stuff i need for free from clients old systems they are disposing of
[07:30] <Sithe> How do I install the fglrx driver?
[07:30] <astro76> Gh0st, type free -m
[07:30] <CheeseGardener> http://pastebin.com/d1e135e23
[07:30] <|_ocke> and partially because i can barely afford rent and electricity, let alone food and comptuer parts :P
[07:30] <CheeseGardener> Could someone tell me what that says, more or less?
[07:30] <n2diy> CheeseGardener: looking
[07:30] <Gh0st> Astro: In terminal?
[07:31] <astro76> Gh0st, yeah
[07:31] <kyncani> |_ocke: :) well, here, old equipments are vax, old unixes and alpha. And i can afford equipment :)
[07:32] <|_ocke> right now im running an athlonxp 3000+ at 2.1ghz, 512mb DDR, 80gb HD, a 256mb nvidia fx5500, all of it i got free
[07:32] <Gh0st> Astro: Is it my Total Mem?
[07:32] <titleB> what does it mean u need to be identified to join that channel?
[07:32] <astro76> Gh0st, yes
[07:32] <p1ls> geek what about one that shows u files of website
[07:32] <n2diy> CheeseGardener: I don't understand the command sequence "time fsck"?
[07:32] <Gh0st> Astro & Geek_: Ok, then my total is 438. So...876 MB?
[07:32] <kyncani> |_ocke: well, i think you would be more confortable with some more ram
[07:32] <|_ocke> i have about 25 or 30 other 10-80gb HDs in a box, 6 or 7 towers of varying states of disassembly, and like 10 processors, dozens of video, sound, and network cards, and whatever other junk you can imagine
[07:33] <Ayabara> I'm trying to upgrade from feisty to gutsy. I run ' gksudo "update-manager -d", and the output is::
[07:33] <Ayabara> gksudo "update-manager -d"
[07:33] <Ayabara> warning: could not initiate dbus
[07:33] <Ayabara> current dist not found in meta-release file
[07:33] <|_ocke> kyncani, oh i know i would, but dont have the budget :P
[07:33] <|_ocke> i have liek 5GB of PC100 and 133 :D
[07:33] <CheeseGardener> time fsck just tells you how much time elapsed in the output
[07:33] <astro76> titleB, http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode
[07:33] <kyncani> |_ocke: steal it (kidding)
[07:33] <|_ocke> but i just got the second 256mb DDR chip like 2 months ago
[07:33] <|_ocke> was on 256 for awhile, that was when i was having the swapping problems
[07:33] <kyncani> |_ocke: i must say kde with 2G ram is something else :)
[07:33] <n2diy> CheeseGardener: ok, so, what is the problem, besides the error message?
[07:34] <sauvin> KDE with only a single gig is //nice//.
[07:34] <Geek_> Gh0st: its a matter of preference really ;), my main ubuntu rig is 1 gb ram so i hardly need any
[07:34] <travellingSalesM> hi, can someone help me to set my default video output? i have all the video plugins but mplayer, totem, realplayer all of them just show me a blue screen with sound
[07:34] <Gh0st> Geek_: So..should I just make it 1gb for precaution?
[07:35] <|_ocke> i actually have 2 swap partitions on separate drives, the first is 450MB, the second is 4Gb
[07:35] <Geek_> Gh0st: 1 gb isn't overkill so it should be fine
[07:35] <|_ocke> i swapon the 4gb one when i notice slowness and swap usage
[07:35] <CheeseGardener> there is an error message?
[07:35] <|_ocke> Gh0st, definitely 1gb
[07:35] <Gh0st> Geek_ : Ok... And...Grr...It says too small of size.
[07:35] <CheeseGardener> I thought it fixed the errors, I put -p in for it to fix the errors.
[07:36] <Gh0st> Geek_: Should I try 1.5gb?
[07:36] <Geek_> Gh0st: try 2
[07:36] <opopanax> !conky
[07:36] <ubot3> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 129 kB, installed size 392 kB
[07:36] <linux_> how i can run some command on startup ?
[07:36] <n2diy> CheeseGardener: ok, so, I was wrong, no error message, what is the problem?
[07:37] <scipio> linux_, go to system-preferences-sessions
[07:38] <CheeseGardener> it said there was 2 major and 16240 minor faults
[07:38] <tehk> Anyone else have to use a corner to unhide your panel when using compiz?
[07:38] <CheeseGardener> did it fix them n2diy?
[07:38] <Gh0st> Geek_: Wait...It shows, as the third partition (one I made in Vista): Device - /dev/sda3, Type - Swap, Mount Point - Blank, Format? - Box, Size - 10485 MB (?!), Used - 3200...Is that right?
[07:38] <n2diy> CheeseGardener: I don't know, is your system working?
[07:38] <CheeseGardener> I guess so yes
[07:38] <ari_stress2> hi, anyone here works at dubai?
[07:39] <CheeseGardener> I haven't had any problems
[07:39] <Geek_> o0
[07:39] <Gh0st> Geek_: I noticed that when I chose to 'Use as...' Swap, it automatically changed it to 3200.
[07:39] <n2diy> CheeseGardener: Ok, so don't sweat it, enjoy.
[07:39] <Geek_> sounds like you made the whole thing swap?
[07:39] <whezler> how do you alter the hosts file?
[07:39] <Gh0st> Geek_:...Fuck...>.<
[07:39] <Geek_> ?
[07:39] <whezler> I keep getting a 'permission denied' message
[07:39] <Geek_> naw
[07:39] <tritium> !language > Gh0st
[07:39] <Geek_> unless you commit the changes, nothing happens
[07:40] <Gh0st> Geek_: I'm undoing Changes.
[07:40] <luyi> kk
[07:40] <luyi> ll
[07:40] <Consty> Anyone have an idea how to fix a problem using an Intel GMA950 graphics card where almost any 3D applications tends to have rendering problems where textures aren't mapping and such on the screen?  It seems like my system with nividia NEVER has a problem, but my Intel box always does.
[07:40] <Gh0st> Tritium: Sorry. >.< Will not happen again.
[07:40] <tocer> hello everyone. how to open a new tab in exist gnome-terminal from command line, not press <ctrl>-<shift>-t in gnome-terminal
[07:40] <tritium> Thanks, Gh0st
[07:40] <Geek_> tritium: the bot seems to be down
[07:40] <luyi> kkk
[07:40] <linux_> how i can run compiz with emerlad decorations ?
[07:40] <Geek_> Gh0st: sorry about that dude...
[07:40] <Geek_> ....
[07:40] <luyi> kk
[07:40] <whezler> hate to repeat myself
[07:40] <whezler> but how do you alter the hosts file?
[07:40] <tritium> Geek_: hmm, okay, thanks.
[07:40] <Geek_> yanno, there might be an easier way Gh0st
[07:41] <whezler> I realize full well it's pretty late most places, and yet unrealistically want someone to solve the problem I need fixed as soon as possible :x
[07:41] <Gh0st> Geek_: Ok...So, it's back to normal. Size is still 0485 MB and used is stil 3200MB.
[07:41] <astro76> whezler, what are you using to edit?
[07:41] <Astra> vsem privet
[07:41] <whezler> /etc/hosts
[07:41] <kyncani> whezler: sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[07:41] <whezler> thank you
[07:41] <thoreauputic> whezler: try   gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[07:41] <Depeche> this sucks cus i still got no clue how to get my video ati working correctly, :(
[07:41] <Geek_> Gh0st: if it isn't too much trouble, got a screenshot?
[07:41] <Gh0st> Geek_: Ok.
[07:42] <astro76> whezler, I meant what editor, gksudo gedit, sudo nano, sudo vi, etc....
[07:42] <_cYril_> hello all
[07:42] <Geek_> i can't remember exactly whats where, need a nudge to my memory
[07:42] <Astra> WHy we are all talking on English
[07:42] <Gh0st> Geek_: Ok. Now what?
[07:42] <kyncani> astro76: well, if he's asking how to edit /etc/hosts, gedit is a safe bet ;)
[07:42] <Astra> HI!!!!!!!!!!
[07:42] <astro76> Astra, this channel is english only support for ubuntu
[07:43] <astro76> kyncani, good point!
[07:43] <Geek_> Gh0st: where are you at now?
[07:43] <Geek_> (in install that is)
[07:43] <Gh0st> Geek_: Prepare Partitions
[07:43] <Geek_> whats it say?
[07:43] <Gh0st> Geek_: How do I send you this screenie?
[07:43] <Gh0st> Um...
[07:44] <Geek_> Gh0st: tinypic maybe?
[07:44] <Gh0st> Oh. >.< Haha.
[07:44] <Gh0st> Just a sec.
[07:45] <roxygirl> hey, has anyone used dvd-slideshow?
[07:46] <Astra> RUSSIANS TALK with me PLEASE
[07:46] <astro76> !offtopic | Astra
[07:46] <ubot3> Astra: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:46] <tritium> Astra: this is an english-speaking channel
[07:46] <Gh0st> Geek_: http://i19.tinypic.com/5x8j0p1
[07:46] <tritium> !ru | Astra
[07:46] <ubot3> Astra:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:46] <Geek_> hmm
[07:46] <indigoparadox> Maybe someone can help me with a printer issue... ^^;;
[07:46] <Geek_> ahh yes
[07:47] <Gh0st> -Hopeful.-
[07:47] <orbisvicis> !sr | Astra
[07:47] <ubot3> Factoid sr not found
[07:47] <Geek_> click on format box for the partitions you want to install linux on
[07:47] <Astra> OK !!!!!! Thanks to you
[07:47] <Geek_> no... wait
[07:47] <indigoparadox> I have a Xerox Phaser 6100 which I'm trying to coax into working on 6.06,
[07:47] <Geek_> you need to resize right?
[07:47] <orbisvicis> hmm ... /join #ubuntu-sr
[07:47] <Gh0st> I do...But it does nothing.
[07:47] <Gh0st> Um...I don't really now.
[07:47] <Gh0st> What you see in that pic is what I have right now.
[07:47] <orbisvicis> !rs | astra
[07:47] <ubot3> Factoid rs not found
[07:48] <Geek_> its ru
[07:48] <Geek_> maybe SU ;p
[07:48] <Astra> Please sorry for my stupid question i am first time here!!!
[07:48] <Gh0st> Huh?
[07:48] <tritium> Astra: no worries :)
[07:48] <Geek_> Gh0st: er... are the partitions correct sizewise?
[07:48] <Gh0st> As in..how I made them in Windows?
[07:48] <Gh0st> Yeah.
[07:49] <Geek_> no, as in "are they how you want them"
[07:49] <ramlinux> sa
[07:49] <m4st3r> anyone has x-chat python scripts? Give me plz.... just use study
[07:49] <Gh0st> Um...Let me say it this way, I WANT them how I NEED them.
[07:50] <Geek_> ahh
[07:50] <Gh0st> The third partition, 10gb, is the one I made for Linux.
[07:50] <Geek_> click on new partition table then
[07:50] <Gh0st> Ok.
[07:50] <Smirker_> what's a good IDE for writing ANSI C / C++
[07:50] <Gh0st> All current partitions will be removed, continue?
[07:50] <Geek_> o0
[07:50] <Geek_> NO
[07:50] <Gh0st> You have selected an entire device to partition. If you proceed with creating a new partition table on the device, then all current partitions will be removed.
[07:50] <Geek_> ...
[07:51] <Geek_> no no..
[07:51] <Geek_> no
[07:51] <Gh0st> lmao
[07:51] <Geek_> gah
[07:51] <Geek_> *thinks*
[07:51] <Geek_> dosen't it have gparted seperate?
[07:51] <b_9> why doesn't this work?                          for song in *.mp3; do mplayer $song; done
[07:51] <b_9> kinda works, but not like I expected
[07:51] <bullgard4> English help wanted: What does mean 'to page' in man more: "More is a filter for paging through text one screenful at a time."
[07:51] <Geek_> (sorry, its been a while... i think i used gparted FIRST the last time"
[07:51] <Gh0st> Hm...Let me see if this is what you're looking for.
[07:51] <lione> where to find zaptel.ko
[07:51] <Gh0st> Let me send you a pic again.
[07:51] <m4st3r> anyone has x-chat python scripts? i want them....
[07:51] <Geek_> no no
[07:51] <Geek_> i get
[07:52] <Geek_> close that first
[07:52] <Gh0st> Ok.
[07:52] <Gh0st> Close Install?
[07:52] <Geek_> go see if there's gparted there
[07:52] <Geek_> yeah
[07:52] <Gh0st> Ok.
[07:52] <tritium> !enter
[07:52] <ubot3> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:52] <Gh0st> Um...hold on.
[07:52] <Geek_> tritium: erm, we're not ;)
[07:52] <tritium> Geek_: scroll up ;)
[07:53] <Gh0st> Where would I find gparted?
[07:53] <thoreauputic> tritium: the trend in articulate speech in #ubuntu is downwards :)
[07:53] <tritium> thoreauputic: agreed
[07:53] <Geek_> its there. alternately see if you can start it from shell
[07:53] <bullgard4> I am looking for a better alternatve for OO.o Base. The OO. Base frontend does not provide a keyboard shortcut for 'Go to the next record', 'Go to the last record', 'Go to the previous record'. The 'Search for a record' keyboard shortcut Ctrl+F only opens if the cursor is prevously placed at certain screen areas. 43000 records, GUI mandatory.
[07:57] (thoreauputic/#ubuntu) !fr
[07:57] (ubot3/#ubuntu) Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:57] (Bogus8/#ubuntu) I think it's related to compiz
[07:57] (frenchie/#ubuntu) merci :)
[07:57] (locke_/#ubuntu) so no i have commandline working but no GUI :D
[07:57] (gonzoism/#ubuntu) this is starting to get to me.  my box is constantly freezing up when i run ubuntu.  when i run slackware or linux-from-scratch, it doesn't lock up.  i like ubuntu best, except for the constant freezing.  it freezes maybe 8 times an hour. for 2 to 5 minutes.   it is enough to drive someone insane.  can someone help me ?
[07:57] (gdb/#ubuntu) bullgard4: PostgreSQL or MySQL (ie; probably beyond the scope of the problem you're seeking to solve).  I don't think there's anything non-SQL that's going to beat OO.o Base on Linux.
[07:57] (Gh0st/#ubuntu) Geek_: You said 1 Gb for basic, right?
[07:58] (m4st3r/#ubuntu) <kyncani>//recommand perl than python?
[07:58] (Geek_/#ubuntu) Gh0st: swap?
[07:58] (Gh0st/#ubuntu) Geek_:
[07:58] (kyncani/#ubuntu) m4st3r: don't know about perl
[07:58] (Gh0st/#ubuntu) Yes.
[07:58] (locke_/#ubuntu) Gh0st yes use 1gb
[07:58] (Geek_/#ubuntu) yeah.
[07:58] (Sithe/#ubuntu) Guys im having MAJOR problems
[07:58] (Gh0st/#ubuntu) Ok.
[07:58] (locke_/#ubuntu) that will be fine
[07:58] (Greg/#ubuntu) Gonzoism the easiest answer to that question is try different hardware =] 
[07:58] (kyncani/#ubuntu) m4st3r: i mean, scripting xchat
[07:58] <Greg> or a different version of ubuntu.
[07:58] <Sithe> Can someone help me with a video driver problem?
[07:58] <m4st3r> kyncani:ok
[07:58] <sauvin> I can't "recommend" anything against python because I don't know anything about it. I know perl is pretty darned capable.
[07:58] <Greg> perhaps even kubuntu
[07:58] <gonzoism> greg.  no is a much easier answer.
[07:59] <locke_> kubuntu is nice
[07:59] <locke_> try it
[07:59] <Greg> well in that case try 6.06 instead of 7
[07:59] <Gh0st> Ok. Now what? I have 1000 MiB Linux-swap. And, now a 9 GiB unallocated partition.
[07:59] <locke_> i was running ubuntu and was dead set against using KDE, but ive since switched and am very happy.. except for the fact that i cant use it right now and my video drivers wont install right
[08:00] <kyncani> sauvin: 1~2 years ago, the entire xchat python module documentation would fit on one not-so-big html page ...
[08:00] <gonzoism> i've tried kubuntu.  no difference. its not the wm freezing.  its either the kernel, or maybe something to do with
[08:00] <gonzoism> HALd
[08:00] <locke_> Gh0st for christ sake allocate the rest and sue it
[08:00] <locke_> use it
[08:00] <locke_> as /home or something
[08:00] <Gh0st> >.<
[08:00] <gnuskool> gonzoism, how long does it freeze? gnome or kde, anything in the logs?
[08:00] <bullgard4> gdb: I don't understand you well. My problem is rather simple: The frontend of OO.o Base is insufficient. Does have PostgreSQL a graphical frontend? Does MySQL have a graphical frontend?
[08:00] <Geek_> ghost: allocate the rest to ext3 ...
[08:00] <Geek_> BRB
[08:00] <locke_> bullgard4 there are graphical frontends
[08:00] <locke_> bullgard4 i dont know anything about them though
[08:00] <saylar> bullgard4, try phpmyadmin
[08:00] <Gh0st> Geek_: Ok.
[08:00] <saylar> it is in the repositories
[08:01] <Gh0st> locke_: Should I use round to Cylinders?
[08:01] <spiderfire> hello
[08:01] <gdb> bullgard4: I understand that, no, and no.  I'll summarize: I think you need to either find a way to map keys in OO.o Base to do what you want, or send in a feature request to the developers and use a non-Linux solution in the meantime.
[08:01] <gonzoism> gnuskool yeah,  dmesg gives me ata1 errors. similiar to: [286321.260000]           res 40/00:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/b0 Emask 0x4 (timeout)
[08:01] <Greg> in that cas gonzoism try a different version of ubuntu
[08:01] <Greg> out of the 6 versions I've installed only 4 worked on my laptop
[08:01] <astro76> Gh0st, yes round to cylinders
[08:01] <gonzoism> gnuskool i think it is specifically the sda drivers in the kernel.
[08:01] <locke_> Gh0st sure
[08:01] <Sithe> Can someone experianced with video drivers help me?
[08:02] <e-Hernick> Sithe: explain your problem
[08:02] <astro76> !ask | Sithe
[08:02] <ubot3> Sithe: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:02] <gdb> bullgard4: I hate to be a naysayer, but I don't think there's Linux software that's going to give you what OO.o Base does + have that feature you're wanting.
[08:02] <spiderfire> how can install flash and java into amd64
[08:02] <Gh0st> Locke_: Also, I'm sorry I have so many questions. But, I'm new to Linux, as was told by several reliable sources to start with Ubuntu.
[08:02] <Gh0st> Astro: Thanks.
[08:02] <e-Hernick> Gh0st: Ubuntu is a good choice.
[08:02] <Gh0st> *and was
[08:02] <sauvin> The entire xchat perl interface documentation, last time I looked, was a medium-sized HTML page. It's enough if you already know the language.
[08:02] <gonzoism> Sithe i've been using video drivers as long as i have been using computers, what is your question ?
[08:02] <linux_> how i can clear all the command from ALT + F2 ?
[08:02] <locke_> Gh0st absolutely, ubuntu is a great ploace to start
[08:02] <astro76> Gh0st, that's what this channel is here for
[08:02] <Gh0st> e-Hernick: Thanks. I think so, too.
[08:03] <e-Hernick> linux_: you want to remove the command history so that other people cannot see them?
[08:03] <weredragon> Whats the best IRC client for Linux?
[08:03] <weredragon> In your opinion
[08:03] <linux_> e-Hernick ,yes
[08:03] <Sithe> gonzoism: My monitor is 1680x1050.. But that is not an option in screen resolution. I have added it my xorg.conf too
[08:03] <Ster-izzle> someone enlighten me: why is every room full of people but like 5 talk?
[08:03] <locke_> weredragon that is a very subjective question
[08:03] <e-Hernick> weredragon: there's no such thing as "best".. I use Konversation right now, but I also like KVirc and irssi
[08:03] <Gh0st> To all: So, 1 GB Linu-sxap and 9 Gb ext3. Apply?
[08:03] <e-Hernick> Gh0st: yes
[08:03] <sauvin> weredragon, xchat.
[08:03] <gonzoism> Sithe intel card ?
[08:03] <Ster-izzle> mmh
[08:03] <Toma-> weredragon: anything that supports text input :) (xchat for gui, irssi for console)
[08:04] <Sithe> gonzoism ATI Radeon X800 GTO
[08:04] <gnuskool> gonzoism, sorry mate, not sure
[08:04] <gonzoism> Sithe laptop ?
[08:04] <locke_> weredragon in many peoples opinion, bitchx is the best irc client, or irssi, but those are commandline only, in others opinion xchat is, and in still others, gaim/pidgin or kopete is the best
[08:04] <thoreauputic> Ster-izzle: some are working but on line, some are away from the keyboard, some are just lurking...
[08:04] <kyncani> sauvin: well, i was just expecting a more mature api :)
[08:04] <astro76> weredragon, the most popular in here are definitely xchat and irssi
[08:04] <Sithe> gonzoism Desktop
[08:04] <locke_> weredragon depends what your style is
[08:04] <Sithe> gonzoism ATI Radeon X800
[08:04] <koshari> weredragon iam using gaim, i dont know that its the best but its installed by default so why not use it
[08:04] <e-Hernick> yeah, xchat is a good value
[08:04] <e-Hernick> very popular, very mature
[08:04] <locke_> /me is using bitchx right now
[08:04] <sauvin> The "api" itself is in its second generation. The documentation could use a bit of polish, yes, but it's apparently all there, you just have to read it.
[08:04] <spiderfire> can i install flash into firefox64?
[08:04] <gnuskool> weredragon, i use xchat, good if youre noob
[08:04] <gdb> weredragon: irssi since it's the best tty client there is, and being tty based, can be run under screen.  as for graphical ones, xchat is the "standard" but sort of stinks.  i liked kvirc (while loathing KDE) but i'm not sure it's around anymore.  i've not used konversation
[08:05] <linux_> e-Hernick , how i can do this ?
[08:05] <gonzoism> Sithe so you added it to your xorg.conf, did you ctrl-alt-backspace ?  did it work ?
[08:05] <Sithe> Nope.
[08:05] <locke_> konversation is ok, but xchat is better
[08:05] <gonzoism> Sithe   i saw something about this the other day.  lemme go back and look for it
[08:05] <e-Hernick> linux_: good question.. under GNOME or KDE?
[08:05] <weredragon> Well then
[08:05] <weredragon> ok.
[08:05] <Sithe> gonzoism alright. Im using the fglrx driver btw.
[08:06] <astro76> spiderfire, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[08:06] <kyncani> sauvin: well, i managed to do what i wanted, but it felt very under-documented
[08:06] <locke_> so does anyone have any idea how i could get these nvidia drivers installed being that running the driver from nvidia.com errors to hell and doesnt work
[08:06] <bullgard4> gdb: Understood. I already discussed the problem with a representative of Sun's OO.o Base. He also said I should put a feature request to the OO.o Base developers. But I cannot wait until they have improved the OO.o Base frontend. This database is my main application program.
[08:06] <sauvin> kyncani, yes, it's minimally documented.
[08:06] <e-Hernick> bullgard4: are you able to reach those buttons using the tab key?
[08:06] <linux_> e-Hernick , gnome
[08:06] <bullgard4> e-Hernick: No, I am not.
[08:07] <Gh0st> To all: I got this when I tried to Apply - http://i16.tinypic.com/4qsw8rq
[08:07] <gnuskool> weredragon, best thing really is to try out till you feel happy
[08:07] <e-Hernick> bullgard4: lemme load oo base.. How do I reproduce this quickly?
[08:08] <bullgard4> e-Hernick: You would have to make a form where you can manipulate the data in the underlying table.
[08:08] <GothCloud> Wow... a lot of people in here
[08:09] <Gh0st> Any solutions?
[08:09] <Sithe> Wow... I wish I could get WoW to work lol..
[08:09] <e-Hernick> bullgard4: I suppose you've searched the net.. did you find anybody else with your problem?
[08:09] <nalpha> guys anybody can help me? my Ubuntu Desktop can't be right click? what happen? this situation begun when I tryng to connect to my NAS TS-201 but had compatibility problem cause I'm connect with samba script to folder that I make in Desktop? sry for the english. thanx
[08:09] <gdb> bullgard4: Yeah, I'm really sorry about that.  I hope that they're able to get that feature in there.  You might investigate some real SQL RDBMS systems (PostgreSQL, MySQL) that have some graphical management software (MySQL's is better, but PostgreSQL is generally considered the better RDBMS).  I don't know that that will meet your needs, and the migration to that would likely be outside the scope of your problem.
[08:09] <d0lph1nK1ng> how do i kill a program running on port 500?
[08:09] <frenchie> :'(
[08:09] <d0lph1nK1ng> i don't know what program it is that is running on port 500
[08:10] <GothCloud> A backround program.
[08:10] <Sithe> background prog
[08:10] <Sithe> ohh.. goth beat me to it!
[08:10] <e-Hernick> d0lph1nK1ng: maybe netstat can help you find it
[08:10] <kyncani> d0lph1nK1ng: netstat and lsof can help you find it
[08:11] <Sithe> gonzoism any luck?
[08:11] <Gh0st> I received an error when trying to apply. http://i16.tinypic.com/4qsw8rq
[08:11] <d0lph1nK1ng> thanks guys
[08:11] <gonzoism> Sithe
[08:11] <Sithe> gonzoism yes?
[08:11] <e-Hernick> kyncani: how would you use netstat and lsof to tell what program is using what TCP socket?
[08:11] <gonzoism> Sithe   i'm this far so far.  i couldn't find what i was looking at yesterday.  http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=25161467
[08:11] <aba_ec> netstat -apn
[08:12] <kyncani> e-Hernick: I meant or, s/and/or/
[08:12] <bullgard4> Is phpmyadmin a graphical tool?
[08:12] <aba_ec> could give you the PID of the process using a TCP/UDP port
[08:12] <Sithe> gonzoism Do you need help looking?
[08:12] <e-Hernick> aba_ec: that would work fine
[08:12] <gonzoism> Sithe  that is just a search on the forums.    i'm gonna give up here. :)  sorry i didn't fix it for you. :)  sorry i wasn't more help
[08:12] <e-Hernick> what do you need lsof for, then
[08:12] <Sithe> Alright
[08:12] <linux_> so how i can delete the histary of alt + f2 ?
[08:13] <aba_ec> run "netstat -apn" as root
[08:13] <e-Hernick> aba_ec: well, d0lphinking is gone
[08:13] <gnuskool> bullgard4, it is,check the wiki for info
[08:13] <kyncani> e-Hernick: well, it's a matter of taste really
[08:13] <e-Hernick> I don't even have lsof installed
[08:13] <bullgard4> e-Hernick: I am subscribing to the mailing list users@dba.openoffice.org
[08:13] <e-Hernick> I like fuser
[08:14] <gonzoism> Sithe you might try asking again.  ati is common.  maybe someone will kknow.   try making a short simple question. :)
[08:14] <e-Hernick> actually, I do have lsof installed in sbin..
[08:14] <e-Hernick> nice output
[08:15] <Sithe> My screen resolution wont go to my monitor resolution. Can anyone help?
[08:15] <Gh0st> What is ntfsresize with the -i option?
[08:15] <bullgard4> gnuskool: Do you mean the Ubuntu wiki in order to check for phpmyadmin?
[08:15] <aba_ec> e-Hernick: try "sudo netstat -tapn"
[08:15] <Gh0st> That's what the error tells me to use.
[08:15] <linux_> so how i can delete the histary of alt + f2 ? [] 
[08:15] <aba_ec> would give you a shorter output
[08:15] <MasterShrek> anyoen ever played uplink: hacker elite?
[08:15] <MasterShrek> game is awesome =P
[08:16] <gonzoism> linux_  what is logging out to it ?
[08:16] <Sithe> My screen resolution wont go to my monitor resolution. Can anyone help?
[08:16] <Cypher21> My windows side like the x botton and stuff is gone
[08:16] <e-Hernick> Sithe: you're not being specific enough.
[08:16] <nalpha> MasterShrek: what version of UpliNk?
[08:16] <kyncani> e-Hernick: for opened ports, it's lsof's -i option
[08:16] <e-Hernick> Sithe: describe your problem correctly
[08:16] <linux_> gonzoism  , what ? [] 
[08:16] <MasterShrek> nalpha, i dunno, im looking for my cd lol
[08:16] <nalpha> MasterShrek: I had playing Uplink several years ago. And there is a big bug on it.
[08:16] <kahrytan> !qemu
[08:16] <ubot3> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:17] <Cypher21> Emerald is mess up and now i do not have any window corners
[08:17] <e-Hernick> Sithe: in one short sentence you should be able to say what version of ubuntu you're running, your video card, the driver you're using, the screen resolution you want to use.. wheter or not you've tried to do anything to xorg.conf..
[08:17] <gonzoism> linux_ one way you can is: clear> /dev/tty2  i think.
[08:17] <MasterShrek> really?
[08:17] <|_ocke> ARGHHHHH
[08:17] <ggoogi> can i have users B, C, D, & E under A user who is not a root user?
[08:17] <e-Hernick> Sithe: don't just say that it's not working. Tell us what's wrong, and what you've tried.
[08:17] <gonzoism> linux_ yeah,  sudo clear>/dev/tty2
[08:17] <Cypher21> How do i get my ubuntu to work again? Emerald is messed up and i can't seem to find a way to fix it
[08:17] <e-Hernick> gonzoism: I don't think that's what he wants to do
[08:18] <Sir_Fawnpug> Has anybody gotten the chance to try Ubuntu Studio yet?
[08:18] <jetscreamer> you can nuke all the .gstuff in ~
[08:18] <gonzoism> linux_  you want stuff to stop writing to it ?
[08:18] <e-Hernick> gonzoism: he's got a command history in the "Run Command" dialogue that appears when he presses alt-F2 in gnome.. and he wants to clear the command history
[08:18] <aba_ec> linux_: alt+f2 is the tty2?
[08:18] <astro76> ggoogi, users you add after the first are not added to admin group by default, so they will not be able to sudo
[08:18] <Cypher21> :(
[08:18] <Sithe> e-Hernick: Ubuntu Fiesty, ATI Radeon X800, Current resolution: 1024x768, Wanted resolution: 1680x1050
[08:18] <Cypher21> :'(
[08:18] <MasterShrek> what kinda bug nalpha ?
[08:18] <e-Hernick> Sithe: have you tried to edit your xorg.conf
[08:18] <bnnagabhushan> 8-)
[08:18] <Gh0st> 'You must specify exactly one device.'
[08:18] <Gh0st> How do I specify the partition?
[08:19] <Sithe> e-Hernick: Yes.
[08:19] <e-Hernick> Sithe: can you paste your xorg.conf on a pastebin
[08:19] <gonzoism> e-Hernick ah.  i   damnit
[08:19] <gonzoism> IT FOZE AGAIN.
[08:19] <gonzoism> THIS IS SO IRRITATING !!!
[08:19] <gonzoism> i can't deal with this.
[08:19] <gonzoism> this is unacceptable.
[08:19] <aba_ec> there is a file called ~/.bash_history. There are all the commands you've executed in bash
[08:19] <koshari> i cant see the big deal of ubuntu studio, after all its just a black theme with a few preinstalled proggies,
[08:19] <linux_> aba_ec , i have delete tty2 and this is not clear the history
[08:19] <Sithe> e-Hernick: I haven't edited it since I last re-installed xorg. Want me to try again?
[08:19] <e-Hernick> gonzoism: you're lagging? try connecting to another server
[08:19] <lockd> ggoogi: what, you mean can you have users "belong" to other users?
[08:20] <gonzoism> linux_ echo hi > ~/.bash_history
[08:20] <Sithe> e-Hernick: But last time I tried it didn't work
[08:20] <gonzoism> e-Hernick no lag.  ubuntu keeps freezing
[08:20] <lockd> ggoogi: or what do you mean by "A" user under B C D, etc
[08:20] <e-Hernick> Sithe: yes, I want you to make sure that in Section "Screen", Subsection "Display", you've got Modes "1680x1050" in there
[08:20] <Cypher21> HOW DO I GET EMERALD to work again? none of the themes load and i can't do anything
[08:20] <nalpha> MasterShrek: the bug is when we accept for job, and they pay half of the sallary first, we can try it always, so we can get money just with accepting and dealing job without need to do the job
[08:20] <Sithe> e-Hernick: Alright. Doing that now
[08:20] <bnnagabhushan> how to use yahoo voice chat?????????
[08:20] <e-Hernick> Sithe: pasting your xorg.conf to a site like pastebin.ca is the next step
[08:20] <MasterShrek> oh i spose nalpha lol never thought of that
[08:20] <Sithe> e-Hernick: I understand
[08:20] <MasterShrek> but dont u get a bad rating for that or something?
[08:20] <e-Hernick> gonzoism: freezing? Any clue what is the source of the freeze?
[08:21] <linux_> gonzoism , hi > ~/.bash_history this is command ?
[08:21] <gonzoism> linux_  no.  echo.    echo anything>.bash_history
[08:21] <Sithe> e-Hernick: does it matter if it is at the begging or the end of the resolutions?
[08:21] <gonzoism> linux_ echo > ~/.bash_history
[08:21] <e-Hernick> Sithe: it should be the first
[08:21] <gonzoism> linux_  or, rm ~/.bash_history
[08:21] <aba_ec> linux_: or try > .bash_history
[08:21] <Sithe> e-Hernick: OHH that might have been the problem lol!
[08:22] <gonzoism> e-Hernick yeah, i suspect its the sda driver in the kernel.
[08:22] <gonzoism> e-Hernick whatever it is, it is ubuntu specific, because the other distros don't do it.
[08:22] <jan__> morning
[08:22] <e-Hernick> gonzoism: I don't suppose you've got a secondary sata controller on your motherboard
[08:22] <e-Hernick> ubuntu-specific
[08:22] <Cypher21> HELP!
[08:22] <e-Hernick> that's weird
[08:22] <Cypher21> >.<
[08:22] <Cypher21> !
[08:22] <Bogus8> why does removing bittorrent need to also remove ubunto-desktop?
[08:23] <gonzoism> e-Hernick i don't think so.  its a laptop.  never opened it.
[08:23] <lockd> Bogus8: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[08:23] <rxKaffee> inside the home directorys of users that I have created through ubuntu's graphical interface, there are several directorys such as Documents, Music, Projects, etc. that are owned by "root" with 755 perms
[08:23] <e-Hernick> gonzoism: I suggest you stop gdm and try working the computer in text mode
[08:23] <linux_> aba_ec , what is the command ? what i need to do with  .bash_history
[08:23] <Bogus8> lockd: so it can be removed with no problems?
[08:23] <rxKaffee> what would have caused this to happen?
[08:23] <Sithe> e-Hernick: That didn't solve the problem. Uploading xorg.conf to pastebin now.
[08:23] <lockd> Bogus8: it is useless, it consists of only dependencies, iirc
[08:24] <rxKaffee> they should be owned by the user whose homedire they are in I think...
[08:24] <Bogus8> lockd: ok cool
[08:24] <nalpha> MasterShrek: the bad rating can be fix with finishing the other job, so the point is after we had much money and can buy greatest hardware we can do other job more easily and get good rating.
[08:24] <kyncani> Bogus8: I think you should keep it, i hear it make upgrading easier (edgy -> dapper, dapper -> feisty)
[08:24] <MasterShrek> i spose
[08:25] <lockd> I'm still looking for a remote-X type system which works like screen
[08:25] <Sithe> e-Hernick: http://pastebin.com/m57decbb9
[08:25] <MasterShrek> nalpha, you just ruined the game for me :(
[08:25] <MasterShrek> lol
[08:25] <rxKaffee> lockd: vnc
[08:25] <e-Hernick> gonzoism: then you'll know if it's a kernel thing. I suggest you start a few CPU and disk intensive jobs in the background (file copies, tar-bzip2'ing big dirs and such) with an interactive job in the foreground (say irssi :) ) and see if you still get freezes.. all that with no X running, in text mode
[08:25] <lockd> rxKaffee: well, I wanted a way to use my same desktop wherever
[08:25] <Bogus8> kyncani: if it's so neccissary then why is flagged to be removed if I pull bittorrent?
[08:25] <lockd> rxKaffee: and if I'm at the local system, would I get graphics accel and all that?
[08:25] <sSiroSoriSs> do you believe in jesus lockd?
[08:26] <nalpha> MasterShrek: sorry, but currently I'm not the found of the bug, it's my brother :( same with you, I work hard to do the job well, but my brother just find the bug... very anoyying
[08:26] <lockd> rxKaffee: (at local, I still need all the windows to stay )
[08:26] <e-Hernick> Sithe: comment out lines 97 and 98, HorizSync and VertRefresh
[08:26] <Gh0st> ntfsresize -s /dev/sda3 <Size>; How do I specify the size?
[08:26] <kyncani> Bogus8: ubuntu-desktop is a package selection made by ubuntu's devs, and they have selected bittorent.
[08:26] <gonzoism> e-Hernick i've done that.  still freezes.  i think it has something to do with HALd  or hald.   its not X.
[08:26] <rxKaffee> lockd: no, I don't think there are any remote's that give acceleration
[08:26] <e-Hernick> Sithe: and try again without these two lines
[08:26] <Cypher21> I can't do any thing on ubuntu becuase emerald i not loading or something!
[08:26] <Cypher21> !
[08:26] <Sithe> e-Hernick: Comment out means to delete?
[08:26] <linux_> someone ?
[08:26] <lockd> rxKaffee: there's indirect rendering or something of the likes
[08:26] <|_ocke> meh
[08:26] <Bogus8> kyncani: hmm, ok, well I'm unselecting it
[08:26] <e-Hernick> Sithe: yeah, you can delete them or add # as the first character of the line
[08:26] <lockd> rxKaffee: but that's pure X
[08:27] <|_ocke> this 'lockd' really is confusing me
[08:27] <rxKaffee> lockd: though you can connect to the vncserver from either the local system, or any remote networked one with a vnc client
[08:27] <|_ocke> heh
[08:27] <gonzoism> Sithe   a comment looks like this:
[08:27] <kyncani> Bogus8: keeping bittorent won't do any harm anyway.
[08:27] <lockd> rxKaffee: could I actually attach X things to screen, or does it work like that?
[08:27] <gonzoism> #sith  comments start with a "#"  they get ignored.
[08:27] <Sithe> Alright
[08:27] <gnuskool> Cypher21, are you getting an error message?what specifically is happening, can your mouse move, can you open apps??
[08:27] <|_ocke> why must there be users in my regular channels with similar nicks??? :D
[08:27] <Bogus8> kyncani: I wouldn't have installed it to start with if I had the choice
[08:27] <f0rqu3> http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9986/screenshotiu5.png
[08:27] <e-Hernick> deleting a line in xorg.conf or commenting it out has the same effect
[08:27] <|_ocke> shiiiiiiiit
[08:28] <rxKaffee> lockd: I don't think screen is capable of anything more graphical than ncurses
[08:28] <Jamesinator> !language | |_ocke
[08:28] <ubot3> |_ocke: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:28] <kyncani> Bogus8: well, you can remove it but then you won't have the services of package selection ubuntu's devs have made.
[08:28] <Sithe> e-Hernick: Like this?: #	HorizSync	28-51
[08:28] <e-Hernick> lockd: there are graphical equivalents to screen
[08:28] <Sithe> #	VertRefresh	43-60
[08:28] <e-Hernick> Sithe: yes
[08:28] <ubotu> |_ocke: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:28] <nalpha> MasterShrek: If you like you can try defcon? already hear about that?
[08:28] <bullgard4> English help wanted: What does mean 'to page' in man more: "More is a filter for paging through text one screenful at a time."
[08:28] <gonzoism> e-Hernick   i think i am going to try upgrading kernels.   any pointers for me ?  i did that on fedora a while back and never got the initrd.gz thing down, and i think ubuntu works the same way.
[08:28] <Gh0st> Anybody mind helping?
[08:28] <Bogus8> kyncani: yeah, I'll have the package selection that *I* have made... which ironically is what *I* want
[08:28] <rxKaffee> bullgard4: splitting a very long section of text into multiple sections that fit on the screen
[08:28] <Bogus8> ;)
[08:29] <lockd> e-Hernick: what, and do they work well and with GL accel?
[08:29] <e-Hernick> bullgard4: well, let's say that you have a text file ten pages long.. if you 'cat' it, the ten pages display at once.. if you run it through a pager like 'less' or 'more', it displays one page at a time
[08:29] <rxKaffee> bullgard4: each section fitted to your display is one "page"
[08:29] <MasterShrek> no nalpha is it linux caompatible?
[08:29] <|_ocke> does anyone have any ide how i can get the real nvidia drivers installed when i cant get the installer to run and restricted-manager screws it up and leaves me with a commandline
[08:29] <gnuskool> Gh0st, whats happening ?
[08:29] <SuperLag> I doubt this is anyone's problem but my own, but have no way to test. Are the mirrors slower than usual tonight?
[08:29] <gonzoism> !ask | gh0st
[08:29] <ubot3> gh0st: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:29] <ubotu> gh0st: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:29] <|_ocke> i need another option
[08:29] <|_ocke> or something
[08:29] <kyncani> Bogus8: for example, if the devs think a new app should be installed by default with gutsy, they are likely to mention the new dependency in ubuntu-desktop.
[08:29] <Sithe> e-hernick: restart X?
[08:29] <GothCloud> My computer is so slow.... Its hamsters running on a wheel and memorizing numbers I shout at them
[08:29] <nalpha> MasterShrek: don't know, but is uplink has linux compatible ?
[08:29] <e-Hernick> Sithe: after saving xorg.conf, restart X, yes
[08:29] <|_ocke> i had opengl in 6.10 just fine
[08:29] <|_ocke> i upgraded to 7.04 and nada
[08:29] <ggoogi> lockd: i'd like to have a non-root user control other users. for example, non-root A controls users B, C, D, and E.
[08:29] <gonzoism> GothCloud  how many mhz ?
[08:29] <Bogus8> kyncani: hmmm... this is starting to turn me off to ubuntu
[08:29] <|_ocke> a lot of stuff was screwed up
[08:30] <MasterShrek> nalpha, yes it has a linux patch
[08:30] <SuperLag> I'm getting < 50k from the main mirror, and it just seems like it should be going much faster
[08:30] <bmachine> hey yalls
[08:30] <|_ocke> i just finally found out i needed to run dpkg -reconfigure or whatever
[08:30] <lockd> ggoogi: what do you mean control other users?
[08:30] <bullgard4> rxKaffee, e-Hernick: Thank you very much for explaining.
[08:30] <|_ocke> and got all those packages reconfigured, so apt-get can work now
[08:30] <GothCloud> gonzoism: 1500
[08:30] <Gh0st> Gnuskool: Well, when I went to 'Apply' in gparted, told me that something was wrong. And, to use the ntfsresize -i option to found out how much I can shrink (split).
[08:30] <bmachine> anyone like the fluxbox ?
[08:30] <ggoogi> lockd: read and write their files.
[08:30] <|_ocke> and installed restricted-manager, which said it could and woudl install nvidia drivers, and i did
[08:30] <nalpha> MasterShrek: just check http://www.introversion.co.uk/ it's better than uplink i suggest, but can't had money to buy it
[08:30] <aba_ec> ggoogi: you can set the same root UID to user A
[08:30] <|_ocke> so it did it, and said it worked great
[08:30] <f0rqu3> bmachine, yes
[08:30] <|_ocke> and restarted
[08:30] <Jamesinator> !chmod | ggoogi
[08:30] <ubot3> ggoogi: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[08:30] <ubotu> ggoogi: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[08:31] <neozen> nalpha: as in uplink the game by introversion... yeah.. they support linux
[08:31] <aba_ec> then user A will have the same privileges as root
[08:31] <bmachine> f0rqu3, how u got urs setup?
[08:31] <Jamesinator> !ops | ubot3 and ubotu are warring
[08:31] <ubot3> ubot3 and ubotu are warring: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[08:31] <ubotu> ubot3 and ubotu are warring: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:31] <ubot3> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 136 kB
[08:31] <gonzoism> GothCloud   bah !  that's fast....    is it like a problem slow or just not fast enough for you ?
[08:31] <|_ocke> and could only load commandline, (gthough thats better than before i had gui and no commandline login prompts)
[08:31] <aba_ec> but that's a security risk
[08:31] <GothCloud> gonzoism: Just....slowish
[08:31] <Myrtti> hmmm
[08:31] <lockd> aba_ec: it wouldn't, ggoogi is only talking about user files
[08:31] <jetscreamer> ubot3: owner
[08:31] <ubot3> Factoid owner not found
[08:31] <e-Hernick> Bogus8: the way I understand it, ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop are only meta-packages.. it doesn't change anything if you uninstall them, your ubuntu should work the same without them..
[08:31] <lockd> aba_ec: it's still security risk though
[08:31] <Sithe> e-Hernick: That worked. Does the deletion of those two lines have any negative effects?
[08:31] <gnuskool> Gh0st, what was 'wrong' can you pastebin it? or type it?
[08:31] <neozen> nalpha: you'll need a patch as the original distributed version has some broken libs
[08:31] <Gh0st> Gnuskool: So, I'm in the terminal and I ran the command, and I have it up to: ntfsresize -s /dev/sda3 But, I need to know how to specify the size to resize.
[08:31] <kyncani> Bogus8: well, try running debian sid for some time and you're more likely to understand that specifically replacing sysvinit with upstart is a bother.
[08:31] <|_ocke> but i logged in, startx didnt work,tried to install NVIDIA drivers manually, gave about 40 errors but said it completed, though didnt work
[08:31] <lockd> aba_ec: just not "same privileges" as root
[08:31] <nixternal> haha
[08:31] <SuperLag> you guys getting slow connections to the mirrors tonight? or is it just me?
[08:31] <|_ocke> i need some more options
[08:31] <Bogus8> e-Hernick: I'm going to give it a go... I REALLY want to try and like ubuntu
[08:31] <|_ocke> i need a cigarette now though
[08:32] <|_ocke> damn..
[08:32] <Jamesinator> Thanks
[08:32] <gonzoism> GothCloud  you using gnome or kde ?   try fluxbox. i'm dual processors, 2.8 ghz i think and i love flux.  been using it since like 2002 or something
[08:32] <kyncani> Bogus8: if you don't have the package selection already made for you
[08:32] <Bogus8> kyncani: I run sid and etchy... more so etchy than sid... and I've had no real problems
[08:32] <bmachine> anyone like the fluxbox ?
[08:32] <korovyov> hey--im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop--cd worked fine on my desktop so its not a bad burn
[08:32] <GothCloud> gonzoism: Ubuntu, gnome I think
[08:32] <Myrtti> argghh.
[08:32] <rxKaffee> <3 fluxbox on gentu
[08:32] <e-Hernick> Sithe: no, it's all good. What happened is that (probably before you switched to fglrx) ubuntu misdetected the specifications of your monitor.. by deleting those two lines, you tell X and fglrx to autodetect the specs (capabilities) of your monitor every time it starts
[08:32] <rxKaffee> *gentoo
[08:32] <Jamesinator> !ubotu > Jamesinator
[08:32] <kyncani> Bogus8: oh, thought you were not aware of these problem, sorry :)
[08:32] <gonzoism> bmachine  yeah
[08:32] <gnuskool> bmachine, flux is my default
[08:32] <e-Hernick> Sithe: if you know the specs of your monitor, you can hardcode them in xorg.conf and save a few milliseconds every time you start X
[08:32] <lockd> e-Hernick: you said you knew of a graphical equivalent to gnu screen
[08:32] <neozen> bmachine: for lightweight systems, I prefer xfce
[08:32] <rxKaffee> I run gnome on my intel 1ghz box with 512mb, I have beryl running, its pretty smooth
[08:33] <Jamesinator> Cripes, ubot3 is still on the loose
[08:33] <e-Hernick> lockd: yes, it's called nx
[08:33] <Bogus8> kyncani: I'm not experiencing problems with debian
[08:33] <korovyov> but during bootup it flashes bug and some numbers and then panels dont appear
[08:33] <bmachine> neozen, xface eh?
[08:33] <Sithe> e-hernick: What specs would I need to know?
[08:33] <Bogus8> kyncani: I install the packages I need and it doesn't really force me to have stuff I don't
[08:33] <e-Hernick> Sithe: the HorizSync and VertRefresh
[08:33] <neozen> bmachine: aye, xfce
[08:33] <Jamesinator> Thank you, finally. :D
[08:33] <neozen> goes like hell on this 1.4ghz
[08:33] <GothCloud> and another ban to the huge banlist
[08:33] <Sithe> e-Hernick: Is there any windows program that can do that? I have windows on this computer too, on a different harddrive
[08:33] <ggoogi> aba_ec: I don't want to give the non-root user A a root privilege.
[08:33] <Bogus8> kyncani: example I don't need a VOIP client but ubuntu devs seem to think I do... so I think it needs to be removed
[08:33] <kyncani> Bogus8: ;) Switched from sid to gutsy 10 months ago because i would spend too much time with sid :)
[08:33] <neozen> though I suppose anything would..
[08:34] <e-Hernick> Sithe: you can learn what they are by taking a look at your /var/log/Xorg.log.0 (or similar name) that will contain the results of the autodetection
[08:34] <todkon> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 and it says during start up that Apt-get isn't installed... then i type reboot and GDM starts... How do I fix the startup problem?
[08:34] <e-Hernick> Sithe: but you really don't need to have them in there
[08:34] <Bogus8> kyncani: did you try etchy?
[08:34] <e-Hernick> Sithe: they'll be autodetected just fine
[08:34] <lockd> e-Hernick: it does support graphics rendering? plus, I found client hard to build, and the closed source one outright crashed
[08:34] <e-Hernick> I mean, you've got 1680x1060 now?
[08:34] <Sithe> e-Hernick: Thats cool. Few miliseconds doesn't matter to me
[08:34] <e-Hernick> 1050
[08:34] <kyncani> Bogus8: drivers and kernel problems (at the very least)
[08:34] <bmachine> neozen, does it minimalize the work area ?
[08:34] <gnuskool> Gh0st, i dont know the command myself, i use the graphical option which is a bootcd called parted magic, i may have mentioned it to you earlier.its a small download, looks and works like partmagic, so you just type in the size you want or drag the pointer, try it if all else fails, its by far the easiest
[08:34] <lockd> e-Hernick: I had more luck with dxpc which does not have the screen like features
[08:34] <korovyov> hey--im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop--cd worked fine on my desktop so its not a bad burn
[08:34] <korovyov> hey--im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop--cd worked fine on my desktop so its not a bad burn
[08:34] <aba_ec> ggoogi: please give us some aditional information
[08:34] <korovyov> but during bootup it flashes bug and some numbers and then panels dont appear
[08:34] <Bogus8> kyncani: with etchy?
[08:34] <neozen> bmachine: what do you mean?
[08:35] <e-Hernick> lockd: nx is a pain to get working
[08:35] <Sithe> e-Hernick: Should I stick with fglrx or switch back to ATI drivers? I think the ATI driver is what messed it up in the first place
[08:35] <rxKaffee> ggoogi: add your "special" user to a group that other users are not in, run a crontab periodically to chown/chmod all users files to be writable by that group
[08:35] <kyncani> Bogus8: with ubuntu 6.10 even ...
[08:35] <e-Hernick> lockd: but when it works, it's awesome
[08:35] <neozen> bmachine: you can have it take up as much or as little as you want
[08:35] <Twomby> is there a graphical configuration tool for samba in feisty fawn, or is everyting still configurable via smb.conf ?
[08:35] <rxKaffee> e-Hernick: it ran pretty easy for me, after I realised I needed the same version number for both client and server
[08:35] <kyncani> Bogus8: and i have yet to see debian get a new version in a timely manner ... ...
[08:35] <ggoogi> aba_ec: what additional info? i want a non-root user to be able to read and write some other users' files.
[08:35] <GothCloud> I am thinking about going from Ubuntu to Solaris 10....
[08:35] <rxKaffee> it didn't seem to have any better features than vnc though to me
[08:35] <e-Hernick> Sithe: You'll have to try both out. Save your xorg.conf, try switching to the ati driver, see if it works better for you. If it doesn't, switch back to your olf xorg.conf
[08:35] <neozen> bmachine: think of it as anemic gnome... that still supports gtk themes
[08:35] <GothCloud> any good?
[08:35] <e-Hernick> s/olf/old/
[08:35] <bmachine> neozen, well fluxbox focalizes in just giving your right click on desktop option to open your files apps, etc.
[08:36] <Gh0st> Gnuskool: hm...Well, I don't have that on here...(Jeez, this was unexpected...I expected to be running Ubuntu off hard disk by now...).
[08:36] <Bogus8> kyncani: understood with that... but I don't feel like "deadlines" are good when you are dealing with creativity like programming
[08:36] <lockd> e-Hernick: I just hope someone backports the features to the server-proxy and client-proxy model (which the "delta" compression X uses)
[08:36] <bmachine> neozen, makes it cleaner and gives more window to use
[08:36] <Bogus8> kyncani: want a great example of that look at Vista ;)
[08:36] <ggoogi> rxKaffee: thanks. i will try that.
[08:36] <e-Hernick> my experience is that there are two good video drivers for linux.. the intel open source driver, and the nvidia closed-source driver
[08:36] <neozen> I've found the notes one particularly useful
[08:36] <kyncani> Bogus8: yeah, but the result is that my harware, already not supported with etch, may not be supported for quite some time ... so it's a no-go :(
[08:36] <Sithe> e-Hernick: I didn't like ATI, WoW and CSS were crashing. Does fglrx lack any quality that ATI doesn't?
[08:37] <e-Hernick> Sithe: I don't know.
[08:37] <neozen> and the themes.. sooo pretty
[08:37] <kyncani> Bogus8: I miss the strict debian policies though :'(
[08:37] <aba_ec> googgi: put all the users in the same group
[08:37] <lockd> e-Hernick: I'm looking forward to getting a box with intel card, even though nVidia is good
[08:37] <Bogus8> kyncani: seems like just like in ubuntu you just need a well motivated debian guy to make that hardware work... luck of the draw?
[08:37] <rxKaffee> any ideas what would cause ubuntu's graphical user creation tool to create directorys in the created user's homedir that are owned by root? Pictures, Music, Documents, etc.
[08:37] <aba_ec> ggoogi: and give write access to the group (chmod)
[08:37] <bmachine> neozen, i think i'll try it
[08:38] <kyncani> Bogus8: Well, i worked in feisty alpha in december 2006 ...
[08:38] <rxKaffee> aba_ec: but then each user could edit the others' files
[08:38] <gnuskool> Gh0st, just checking, are you dual-booting? are you running gparted from within your primary linux installation?
[08:38] <gnuskool> Gh0st, what i mean is, are you trying to resize a partition youre booting from+
[08:38] <Sithe> e-Hernick: Thanks for all your help! You should charge for your services! lol
[08:38] <neozen> bmachine: you'll find a shot of what mine used to look like before I stripped it down here: http://neozen.homelinux.org/index.png
[08:38] <rxKaffee> aba_ec: and you'd have to rely on them having a common shell init file to umask the files to group write
[08:38] <Bogus8> kyncani: I just found a fortune cookie app installed... really is that needed? ;)
[08:38] <e-Hernick> Sithe: I usually do :)
[08:39] <GothCloud> Is solaris 10 any better/worse than Ubuntu 7.04?
[08:39] <sauvin> Worse, I'd think.
[08:39] <rxKaffee> solaris is still on version 10?
[08:39] <Gh0st> Gnuskool: Haha. I'm trying to format the partition to install Ubuntu to so I CAN boot fomr that partition.
[08:39] <kyncani> Bogus8: yeah, but for an average user, it's the way it should be.
[08:39] <kyncani> Bogus8: i mean, newcomers don't even know gnome or kde !
[08:39] <e-Hernick> GothCloud: It depends on what you plan to do with it. If you're trying to build a RAID-Z+ZFS-backed Samba server, Opensolaris is the only choice.
[08:39] <Bogus8> kyncani: a fortune cookie app?  two works for ya.... come on! ;)
[08:39] <rxKaffee> Bogus8: you want an os that installs minimal utilities? put on Gentoo or Slackware
[08:40] <GothCloud> e-Hernick: Just compare the two
[08:40] <Sailing> hi
[08:40] <GothCloud> Is that i want to do
[08:40] <rxKaffee> Bogus8: Ubuntu's meant to be "shiny" as it comes out of the box
[08:40] <e-Hernick> GothCloud: Well, you should install both.
[08:40] <kyncani> Bogus8: well, yeah :) rotfl
[08:40] <aba_ec> rxKaffee: ok
[08:40] <Bogus8> rxKaffee: I just wish I could have had an option... and I'm not complaining about the apps as much as me and kyncani are just discussing the pro's and con's of it
[08:40] <GothCloud> e-Hernick: Okay, thx
[08:40] <Sithe> Sorry to ask this here but noone in the cedega channel is responding. Does anyone have WoW running with cedega? Or know the appropriate settings to use with a given graphics card/driver?
[08:40] <e-Hernick> GothCloud: this is for a server-type application, right?
[08:41] <e-Hernick> GothCloud: if so, you should compare ubuntu server edition with opensolaris express
[08:41] <rxKaffee> Bogus8: I believe there's a text-installer for ubuntu that allows individual package de-selection
[08:41] <GothCloud> e-Hernick: Just see which I like better for a Desktop OS
[08:41] <e-Hernick> GothCloud: oh, there is no question about that, Ubuntu is by far the best desktop OS
[08:41] <e-Hernick> there is no hesitation to be had here
[08:41] <e-Hernick> Ubuntu all the way
[08:41] <GothCloud> okay
[08:41] <Bogus8> rxKaffee: I looked around on the boot screen and couldn't find anything... so I just went with it
[08:41] <kyncani> Bogus8: Maybe some big metapackages, not just ubuntu and kubuntu in an interface ala automatix-like would do it
[08:41] <Twomby> is there a graphical configuration tool for samba in feisty fawn, or is everyting still configurable via smb.conf ?
[08:41] <jetscreamer> !info usplash
[08:41] <ubotu> usplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4-44 (feisty), package size 22 kB, installed size 144 kB
[08:41] <neozen> bmachine: and here's what it looks like post retrofit: http://silenceisdefeat.org/~neozen/ss.png
[08:42] <e-Hernick> Twomby: samba has been shipping with a web configuration interface (SWAT) for a long time
[08:42] <Bogus8> kyncani: yeah, I just don't like the "meta package" naming scheme... it makes it seem very important when apparently it isn't
[08:42] <kyncani> Bogus8: well, it's much better thant tasksel
[08:42] <e-Hernick> Bogus8: naming things is all about compromise
[08:42] <gnuskool> Gh0st, pastebin fdisk -l
[08:43] <e-Hernick> Bogus8: if you want to complain about something, complain about how all KDE apps must start or end by a K :)
[08:43] <Bogus8> e-Hernick: yeah, but "ubuntu-desktop" is quite intimidating to say "yeah, remove that"
[08:43] <Gh0st> Gnuskool: Pastebin?
[08:43] <lockd> e-Hernick: ooh, just discovered something called xmove
[08:43] <rxKaffee> dotcom
[08:43] <kyncani> I complain about some kde apps *not* starting with a K for myself
[08:43] <Sailing> any one from china?
[08:43] <e-Hernick> Bogus8: indeed, but when you remove apps parts of the base ubuntu-desktop collection, you don't quite have a normal ubuntu desktop anymore
[08:43] <Bogus8> e-Hernick: well, at least you know what it belongs to... I don't mind that sort of thing.... but yeah... I'm sure they could have done something better
[08:44] <Gh0st> Gnuskool: Is that a lower-case L?
[08:44] <bjames> hi all
[08:44] <Twomby> e-Hernick : Thanks, I'll check this out
[08:44] <Twomby> :)
[08:44] <e-Hernick> Bogus8: users shouldn't be encouraged to remove default apps
[08:44] <kyncani> And if I remember correctly, the upgrade path 6.10->7.04 involves reinstalling ubuntu-desktop if you removed it ...
[08:44] <e-Hernick> having a set of apps shared by all ubuntu desktops is a good idea..
[08:44] <walls> I put the iso file into a CD-R CD and it doesnt boot at startup, can someone please help (yes, my Boot priorety is set to have CD rom as #1)
[08:44] <|_ocke> gah
[08:44] <|_ocke> :(
[08:44] <Bogus8> e-Hernick: no but "ubuntu-desktop" sounds like it's going to remove X or something (especially for the inexperienced)
[08:44] <|_ocke> i want my opengl :(:(:(
[08:44] <e-Hernick> Bogus8: I suppose so..
[08:44] <Bogus8> e-Hernick: they should all be using "fortune cookie"? LOL
[08:44] <|_ocke> Bogaurd, ubuntu-desktop is the default desktop environment under gnome
[08:44] <|_ocke> er
[08:45] <|_ocke> Bogus8,
[08:45] <rxKaffee> walls: is it a finalized single session cdr with proper bootup files?
[08:45] <GothCloud> I tried having Ubuntu load in a virtual PC, but the graphics are all screwed up
[08:45] <kyncani> Well, if dependencies were strict, it _should_ remove X ...
[08:45] <e-Hernick> Bogus8: of course, fortune has been shipping with UNIX for decades, it's an undying tradition
[08:45] <Bogus8> |_ocke: I was told it was a meta package and not really needed
[08:45] <bjames> I remember reading about an application that acts as a shortcut to lots of other applications - you just start typing and it finds programs, searches the internet, etc. Now I've found the Windows version "launchy" but what is the Linux version called?
[08:45] <neozen> e-Hernick: if experienced users don't use it ... why have it eat up disk space.... then again... one could postulate that such "experienced users" wouldn't use an ubuntu
[08:45] <|_ocke> i dont have fortune :(
[08:45] <rxKaffee> walls: and did you burn it as an image, or data file?
[08:45] <e-Hernick> disk space
[08:45] <Bogus8> e-Hernick: well, aside from that there are others that don't need to be there
[08:45] <e-Hernick> you're talking about experienced users caring about disk space?
[08:45] <|_ocke> Bogus8, yes, in a sense, but its the default graphical interface for ubuntu
[08:45] <|_ocke> that is what is installed so you can have the gnome desktop
[08:45] <bjames> dash?
[08:45] <e-Hernick> about saving 500 megs by uninstalling apps? on a desktop distribution?
[08:46] <e-Hernick> I don't think so, this is 2007
[08:46] <e-Hernick> you don't uninstall apps because you're out of disk space
[08:46] <lockd> experienced users have cash
[08:46] <GothCloud> e-Hernick: I do :D
[08:46] <bjames> katapult?
[08:46] <e-Hernick> you do it because you're a neatfreak who doesn't want cluttered menus
[08:46] <Bogus8> e-Hernick: I install systems that go into the gulf of mexico weekly... so I set up "default/base" systems all the time... and I give somethings they dont' "need" but it's only things like GAIM and such... which lots SHOULD use vs trying to install the real yahoo client
[08:46] <rxKaffee> GothCloud: thats only because you don't have enough pr0n
[08:46] <lockd> unless they -teach- IT
[08:46] <walls> rxKaffee: oh i see my problem =) it needs to be burned as an image right?
[08:46] <Bogus8> e-Hernick: and plus they use what I say they use ;)
[08:46] <Gh0st> Wow. I'm pretty confused, now.
[08:46] <xylan> morning
[08:46] <neozen> e-Hernick: lol... this is true
[08:47] <Bogus8> |_ocke: we'll see, I'm about to pull it
[08:47] <neozen> e-Hernick: I'm all about killing the clutter
[08:47] <rxKaffee> walls: correct, if you view the cdr in mycomputer or such after burning, it should have several directorys showing, rather than an ubuntu-install.iso or such
[08:47] <kyncani> Bogus8: yeah, but these system have a professionnal to set them up (you)
[08:47] <walls> ok thanks rxKaffee!
[08:47] <rxKaffee> walls: no problem, good luck
[08:47] <gnuskool> Gh0st, yah its lowercase l. goto pastebin.com. open xterm, type in fdisk -l, copy the results, paste it into the text area in pastebin.com, enter your name etc, then youll be given a url, copy that url, give that to me here, so i can see what xtrem said to you hehe
[08:47] <e-Hernick> kyncani: exactly.. managed computers where the users aren't root..
[08:47] <Bogus8> kyncani: right... I'm just saying I'm not going to install gimp on these systems because they would never use them
[08:48] <Bogus8> hell most average users would never use gimp on linux... it's too complex
[08:48] <rxKaffee> I've never met a user who never needed to edit an image
[08:48] <Bogus8> and I use photoshop
[08:48] <GothCloud> I wonder if Photoshop CS3 will run in wine
[08:48] <rxKaffee> gimp is WAY easier than photoshop
[08:48] <e-Hernick> GIMP isn't that hard
[08:48] <neozen> Bogus8: I spent about 3 hours in gimp one day
[08:48] <kyncani> Yeah, average users would not even know how to install gimp if it was not already there
[08:48] <Bogus8> rxKaffee: it's just too complex for your average user
[08:48] <GothCloud> rxKaffee: I find the contrary
[08:48] <rxKaffee> the only decent photo editor thats easier than gimp is paintshop pro version 5
[08:48] <kyncani> Or they would download gimp on gimp.org and then wonder how to install it :'(
[08:48] <Bogus8> hmm I'm dense then... I use PS with no problems but gimp gives me trouble
[08:48] <neozen> Bogus8: haven't poked it since..... but its nice to know its there if I need it
[08:48] <Bogus8> (the windows version at least)
[08:49] <rxKaffee> Bogus8: which did you "learn" first? PS or Gimp?
[08:49] <GothCloud> PS
[08:49] <Bogus8> rxKaffee: PS
[08:49] <rxKaffee> its harder to unlearn bad habbits than to start new ones
[08:49] <kyncani> Paint here :)
[08:49] <Bogus8> rxKaffee: understandable... but I can objectively look at apps usually from a fresh user prospective
[08:49] <top10k> I bet you are
[08:49] <e-Hernick> Well, let's not think for a second that the GIMP is anywhere near as powerful as the ultimate program, Photoshop...
[08:49] <neozen> heh... all hail the win31 pbrush.exe!!!!
[08:50] <kyncani> :))
[08:50] <Bogus8> I actually learned on mac's paint back in the 80's
[08:50] <top10k> Corel Photo maybe?
[08:50] <Bogus8> black and white baby
[08:50] <e-Hernick> GIMP is more like Paint Shop Pro
[08:50] <gnuskool> Gh0st, you enter it as Leon?
[08:51] <kyncani> Gvim for windows, yeah ! (curse them)
[08:51] <neozen> ...................I prefer regular vim
[08:51] <rxKaffee> I prefer nano
[08:51] <e-Hernick> my favourite windows app is putty
[08:51] <e-Hernick> I used to like nano
[08:51] <neozen> to each their own... that's what linux is all about
[08:51] <e-Hernick> I put off learning vim for like 8 years
[08:51] <neozen> lol
[08:51] <e-Hernick> now I cannot understand why I didn't learn it sooner..
[08:52] <neozen> me too
[08:52] <e-Hernick> and I hate myself for not having memorized all commands yet
[08:52] <e-Hernick> vim is so much more powerful than I know how to use it..
[08:52] <neozen> now I want to scream at an ide when I whack esc-dd and the line doesn't disappear
[08:52] <rxKaffee> the only thing about nano that I dislike is skipping long distances into the middle of a line on an uberlaggy connection
[08:52] <godlygeek> vim rules. :)
[08:52] <kyncani> Especially when you're stuck on some very old unices
[08:52] <gnuskool> Gh0st, ok you nearly there, but first open a terminal, you know how?, its the same place where youre trying to resize the partition from i think, so, go there and type in fdisk -l, copy the result and paste it into pastebin
[08:53] <e-Hernick> while vim is awesome, emacs is the devil...
[08:53] <godlygeek> trying to install from a livecd, i get "the file system... assigned to / has not been marked for formatting..." and it won't let me install there... is there any way around that?  I know you can install without reformatting from the alt cd's...
[08:53] <e-Hernick> emacs users go home!
[08:54] <neozen> e-Hernick: I've got a buddy who does lisp development for a living.... he lives in emacs
[08:54] <Gh0s1> Hello?
[08:54] <godlygeek> emacs does, indeed, suck.  so does lisp.  X-p
[08:54] <Gh0s1> >.<
[08:54] <rxKaffee> Gh0s1: hiroshiX
[08:54] <rxKaffee> er
[08:54] <rxKaffee> *hi
[08:54] <e-Hernick> neozen: well, a lisp/emacs master is a force to be reckoned with
[08:54] <kyncani> Very good for ada too
[08:54] <gnuskool> Ghos1, same as Gh0st??
[08:54] <e-Hernick> neozen: but those people do not thing as we do
[08:54] <e-Hernick> s/thing/think/
[08:54] <Gh0s1> Gnuskool: Yes. Something messed up on connection.
[08:55] <neozen> I've just gotten stuck on vim with syntax highlighting......
[08:55] <Gh0s1> Gnuskool: I opend xterm and typed in fdisk -l. I didn't get anything.
[08:55] <godlygeek> haha, try though i might, i'll never be able to think as a functional programmer.  recursion instead of loops... *shudder*
[08:55] <gnuskool> Gh0s1, you in livecd?
[08:55] <Gh0s1> Yes.
[08:55] <neozen> such a simple thing that I had never encountered before outside of a full on (and slow as hell) IDE... in such a small tight package
[08:56] <rxKaffee> -l sweetch needs root-permissions
[08:56] <neozen> now.. I fly around in vim
[08:56] <rxKaffee> sudo or su, or somesuch
[08:56] <neozen> seems almost flow of consciousness
[08:56] <e-Hernick> my favourite, sudo su -
[08:56] <Gh0s1> Thanks, rxKafee
[08:56] <neozen> e-Hernick: sudo -s
[08:56] <kyncani> sudo -i
[08:56] <neozen> does the same thing
[08:56] <gnuskool> gh0s1, how about cfdisk
[08:56] <godlygeek> e-Hernick: sudo -s -H
[08:57] <gnuskool> gh0s1, how about or parted?
[08:57] <bz0b> hey everyone
[08:57] <Gh0s1> Got FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[08:57] <neozen> and semi-autocompletion.... oh how I adore it
[08:57] <bz0b> does anyone here have a ubundell
[08:57] <rxKaffee> so nobody use the graphical interface to manage(add/delete) user accounts?
[08:57] <neozen> rxKaffee: never touched it
[08:57] <e-Hernick> sudo su - is prettier than sudo -s -H
[08:57] <godlygeek> rxKaffee: command line is better.  :)
[08:57] <neozen> rxKaffee: there is one?
[08:57] <gnuskool> gh0s1, or parted i meant to say
[08:58] <godlygeek> e-Hernick: might as well do 'sudo bash', then
[08:58] <rxKaffee> neozen: I'm told thats where the Pictures, Templates, Documents directorys came from
[08:58] <Gh0s1> Wait...Now I;m getting confused...
[08:58] <gnuskool> Gh0s1, sudo fdisk?
[08:58] <e-Hernick> godlygeek: no, doesn't so the same thing
[08:58] <kyncani> godlygeek: sudo bash won't execute /etc/profile as root
[08:58] <neozen> lol
[08:58] <neozen> right
[08:58] <Gh0s1> I typed in sudo fdisk -l.
[08:58] <neozen> night all
[08:58] <Gh0s1> Then I got something.
[08:58] <Bogus8> why does my app go black and white?
[08:59] <gnuskool> Gh0s1, paste into pastebin
[08:59] <Gh0s1> Ok.
[08:59] <kyncani> Bogus8: because you removed ubuntu-desktop ;) (kidding)
[08:59] <Bogus8> kyncani: LOL it was doing that before :p
[08:59] <bz0b> does anyone know where i can find this driver
[08:59] <bz0b> 03:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd Unknown device 0832
[08:59] <godlygeek> kyncani: ah.  didn't know that.  *shrug*, i've been a proud zsh user for 2 or 3 years now, forgot a lot of my bash knowledge
[08:59] <Bogus8> kyncani: I was just googling it trying to figure it out on my own
[09:00] <Gh0s1> Gnuskool: http://pastebin.com/m7839760
[09:00] <kyncani> Bogus8: well, must be the fortune thing then ;)
[09:00] <GothCloud> more!
[09:00] <Bogus8> kyncani: I hadn't removed anything at that point :p
[09:00] <wnet> www.yoga82ss@yahuu.com
[09:00] <Gh0s1> Gnuskool: Do you want to show you you what I'm trying to do in gparted?
[09:01] <Bogus8> kyncani: from what I've gathered on google it might be related to compiz
[09:01] <kyncani> godlygeek: do manual partition and don't reformat
[09:01] <Bogus8> (I am running desktop effects)
[09:01] <godlygeek> nobody has a clue?  There really oughta be SOME way to override that... a "yes i know what i'm doing" switch...
[09:01] <GothCloud> It is amazing how something so random can stop a 1000 user room from saying anything for 10 seconds :P
[09:01] <godlygeek> kyncani: Doesn't help.  it tells me that
[09:01] <bz0b> how do i install compiz
[09:01] <wnet> www.friendster.com
[09:01] <rxKaffee> "manual" partition config on my install forced format on / also
[09:01] <GothCloud> I agree, is there a way to stop the partition from being so large as well?
[09:01] <GothCloud> I only want a 10GB partition
[09:02] <Bogus8> bz0b: it is installed I think... turn on desktop effects
[09:02] <godlygeek> GothCloud: THAT, you can do with a manual partition.
[09:02] <kyncani> godlygeek, rxKaffee: well, that's how i installed this box without reformating (debian sid -> ubuntu transition)
[09:02] <Gh0s1> rxKaffee: I'm having a lot of trouble with this.
[09:02] <gnuskool> Gh0st, go on then, lets see
[09:02] <jetscreamer> i asked once and was told no you have to format
[09:02] <Bogus8> bz0b: I'm new so don't qoute me but it seems that way to me
[09:02] <EJ> how the heck do i make php-nuke connect to MySQL database !!!! i've done itone other Distros but it wont do iton this one, i've created the database via command lin, phpnuke and MySQL-Admin and it keeps timing out on me.
[09:02] <Gh0s1> Gnuskool: Ok. Hold on.
[09:02] <godlygeek> kyncani: it might be new as of gutsy, which i'm trying to try.
[09:02] <jetscreamer> i found that kinda <i9nsert non-pc sexual reference here>
[09:02] <HiFiJive> Ej have you started the MYSQLD?
[09:02] <kyncani> godlygeek: eek, hope it's a gutsy bug then
[09:02] <godlygeek> kyncani: I wiped the entire disk except for /home, why won't it just let me keep that!  lol
[09:03] <EJ> err command line ,phpmyadmin and MySQL-Admin
[09:03] <MasterShrek> i have problems with programs not being able to find libgtk-1.2.so.0   im using amd64 and have the required pacakges installed
[09:03] <kyncani> godlygeek: i did the same thing with feisty
[09:03] <EJ> [ HiFiJive] : yes MySQL is running
[09:03] <rxKaffee> EJ: does nuke give any error debugging?
[09:03] <EJ> yeah 1 sec
[09:03] <EJ> Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /var/www/install/install2.php on line 140
[09:03] <HiFiJive> hah
[09:03] <EJ> it does that when it tries to set up tables
[09:03] <HiFiJive> edit your php.ini
[09:04] <HiFiJive> for max execution limit
[09:04] <rxKaffee> thats an apachee error isn't it?
[09:04] <bz0b> Bogus8, wow  thanks man i like this how do i see them all as a cube
[09:04] <godlygeek> kyncani: "feature"... definitely and precisely warns you that a partition selected as /, /boot, /usr, or /var must be reformatted, but not one selected as /home, /media, /usr/local, etc...
[09:04] <xoRock> guys, just curious, wich one is better koffice vs openoffice?
[09:04] <godlygeek> xoRock: abiword.  :)
[09:04] <Bogus8> bz0b: roll an app around the corner... or flip desktops on the switcher
[09:04] <rxKaffee> HiFiJive: if its working properly, there's no reason nuke should take more than 30 sec
[09:04] <godlygeek> xoRock: If you need excel, openoffice, if you only need word, abiword.
[09:04] <kyncani> godlygeek: ... stupid braindead feature ...
[09:04] <Bogus8> bz0b: I really don't know much about this... just got it set up tonight
[09:05] <godlygeek> kyncani: Agreed.  I don't have enough space to juggle that directory to some other drive...
[09:05] <Gh0s1> Gnuskool & rxKaffee: http://i16.tinypic.com/6aess4i
[09:05] <Bogus8> bz0b: if you find a good reference for "tricks" let me know I haven't had a chance to look yet
[09:05] <HiFiJive> Ubuntu 7.02 will not boot on my Neo2 915p/g w/nvidia 7600gs
[09:05] <Gh0s1> That's what I want to do with the partition.
[09:05] <xoRock> godlygeek, ^^ how about koffice?
[09:05] <kyncani> godlygeek: well, i guess you could make a small partition, install ubuntu on it, then just move everything onto your big partition and set up fstab and grub then
[09:06] <godlygeek> kyncani: Yeh, i think i'm gonna have to.
[09:06] <godlygeek> kyncani: that was my fallback plan, heh
[09:06] <kyncani> godlygeek: if there really is no way to tell the installer not to reformat
[09:06] <rxKaffee> Gh0s1: I don't know anything about gpartd, sorry
[09:06] <godlygeek> kyncani: not one that i can see.  :)
[09:06] <kyncani> Goddamn braindead feature ...
[09:06] <godlygeek> kyncani: it was discussed in this channel a few months ago, and the only responses were "don't do that"
[09:06] <bz0b> brb
[09:06] <godlygeek> xoRock: never played around much with koffice
[09:07] <godlygeek> xoRock: It didn't SEEM to have support for .ppt's
[09:07] <Ghost> rxKaffee: It's ok. >.<
[09:07] <xoRock> godlygeek, ic ok
[09:07] <godlygeek> xoRock: And since i need to use those occassionally, i needed to have ooo installed.
[09:07] <kyncani> godlygeek: or you could use debootstrap but it will take more time i think
[09:07] <Twomby>  "Nautilus cannot display "smb://desktoptommy/f/music"  Please select another viewer and try again --> I always get this error when trying to access my Windows box.  Any insights ?
[09:07] <godlygeek> xoRock: and i figured, no reason for both ooo and koffice.
[09:07] <HiFiJive> anyone here have MSI neo2 915 Mobo?
[09:08] <EJ> [ HiFiJive] : whats a good time limit 120 ?
[09:08] <Johnyluv> may i get a lil help please
[09:08] <rxKaffee> EJ: I think the better route would be figuring out why its taking so long to execute
[09:08] <HiFiJive> whats its default value?
[09:08] <EJ> [ HiFiJive] : 30
[09:08] <Johnyluv> from someone. wondering how can transfer files
[09:08] <godlygeek> kyncani: and i know nothing about debootstrap.  I'll just try to turn off my swap partition, grow it, install ubuntu, mv the files back to where i want them, and reformat as swap.
[09:08] <Johnyluv> it will not let me
[09:08] <godlygeek> kyncani: here goes nothing.  :)
[09:09] <godlygeek> Johnyluv: Transfer files... where?  and how?
[09:09] <jetscreamer> or just use debian :o
[09:09] <kyncani> godlygeek: seems right
[09:09] <jetscreamer> omg did i say that?
[09:09] <jetscreamer> :)
[09:09] <Bogus8> OT, where does the "halalalalalalalalalal!" that the arab people do come from?
[09:09] <sauvin> I think that's what Johnyluv is trying to ask :D
[09:09] <Johnyluv> wonderful ill get to you right now God
[09:09] <HiFiJive> did you apt-get myphpadmin?
[09:09] <Sithe> e-Hernick: Hey can you help me again lol?
[09:09] <ashraf> can I raise some issues with open office/
[09:09] <godlygeek> Johnyluv: Over a network?  between directories?
[09:09] <EJ> [ HiFiJive] : yes i have phpmyadmin
[09:09] <Johnyluv> pc with me
[09:09] <Johnyluv> someone to help me with this problem
[09:09] <godlygeek> ashraf: issues with open office don't really belong here.
[09:09] <gnuskool> Gh0st, i minute mate
[09:09] <godlygeek> Johnyluv: you need to explain what problem you're having.
[09:10] <Gh0st> Gnuskool: Ok. No problem.
[09:10] <EJ> [ HiFiJive] : i can import the .sql file but it dosent matter when i got to install php-nuke, it still times out
[09:10] <Bogus8> EJ: he asked if you used apt-get to install it... not IF you had it
[09:10] <Sithe> When I type fglrxinfo its not recognizing my graphics card.. How can I get it to?
[09:10] <godlygeek> rsync, scp, mv - all valid ways to move files around. :)
[09:10] <EJ> [ Bogus8] : and i said yes
[09:10] <kyncani> godlygeek: what if the swap partition is now mandatory :D ?
[09:10] <kyncani> (just kidding)
[09:10] <rxKaffee> godlygeek: I don't believe any of those deal with special/block files ver ywell though
[09:10] <sauvin> Johnyluv, nobody can help you until we have an idea of what you're asking FOR.
[09:10] <Bogus8> EJ: you said "yes I have phpmyadmin" that doesn't answer his question accurately
[09:10] <Johnyluv> um.. GODLYGEEK.
[09:11] <Johnyluv> just a lil help please.
[09:11] <Johnyluv> someone,
[09:11] <jetscreamer> install fglrx
[09:11] <Bogus8> EJ: you could have compiled from source
[09:11] <Bogus8> or tarball
[09:11] <EJ> why do that when theres apt-get. ive used slackware for years and have had to compile from source, and thats why i am trying this os
[09:11] <Johnyluv> how come my file will not get transerd to my friends
[09:11] <godlygeek> rxKaffee: tar -czvf - / | ssh remotehost "tar -zxvf -" or some such.  :)
[09:12] <Johnyluv> i m trying to send a file but it will not go anywher
[09:12] <Johnyluv> all i get is this
[09:12] <Johnyluv> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[09:12] <sauvin> Johnyluv, how are you trying?
[09:12] <Johnyluv> ?
[09:12] <Johnyluv> well just regular sending file.
[09:12] <godlygeek> OH!
[09:12] <sauvin> Hrm... yo're trying to dcc send a file!?
[09:12] <godlygeek> Johnyluv: Register.
[09:12] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: you have to register your name with nickserv
[09:12] <Bogus8> EJ: because some people prefer to or just don't know better... I'm sure he was just making sure you guys were on the same page
[09:12] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: or if it is already, you have to dientify to nickserv
[09:12] <EJ> [ Bogus8] : if you not going to help me plz leave me alone
[09:12] <Sithe> When I type fglrxinfo its not recognizing my graphics card.. How can I get it to?
[09:12] <Johnyluv> lol
[09:12] <Bogus8> EJ: it almost sounded like you had installed via tarball and was evading the question... but obviously you weren't
[09:12] <Johnyluv> am i being blocked?
[09:13] <Johnyluv> ok who will explain it to me , on here just find me and lets talk about this.
[09:13] <Bogus8> EJ: you are welcome to /ignore me... I was only trying to help from any confusion... jackass
[09:13] <Geek_> back
[09:13] <kyncani> Johnyluv: no, you need to register to freenode
[09:13] <Johnyluv> sorry bogus
[09:13] <Johnyluv> ok thanks
[09:14] <Bogus8> Johnyluv: you did nothing to me... it wasn't directed at you
[09:14] <EJ> [ Bogus8] : np *ignore*
[09:14] <Bogus8> good
[09:14] <Johnyluv> ok.. i m just a lil scared lol i mean to me you guys are freaken smart as hell.
[09:14] <drumline_> I've always had the feeling that upgrades leave the system with orphaned files and little loose ends...  does that happen with an Ubuntu upgrade?
[09:14] <Johnyluv> im just new at this
[09:14] <rxKaffee> EJ: nuke is using the same hostname and port as phpmyadmin?
[09:14] <Bogus8> Johnyluv: it comes with time... dont' panic :)
[09:14] <Johnyluv> cuz my friend wanted me to join it so we can exchange music from CALI to, NY
[09:14] <godlygeek> kyncani: lmao: gparted just segfaulted... I'm beginning to think i should let someone ELSE work out the problems in gutsy...
[09:14] <|_ocke> crap i just dropped my lighter IN my computer
[09:15] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: /msg nickserv help register
[09:15] <Johnyluv> ok Bogus..
[09:15] <sauvin> We're not as "smart" as you think; we're just playing in our own private sandbox. :D
[09:15] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: type that
[09:15] <Johnyluv> im going to  send you a privet messge
[09:15] <drumline_> Question; I've always had the feeling that upgrades leave the system with orphaned files and little loose ends...  does that happen with an Ubuntu upgrade?
[09:15] <Bogus8> Johnyluv: you can try me if you would like
[09:15] <Johnyluv> by the way i am one handed, just letting you guys know
[09:15] <Johnyluv> its hard for me to type
[09:15] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: you probably can not send a private message until you register with nickserv
[09:15] <Johnyluv> sorry if my spelling is not up to par
[09:15] <sauvin> I know people who type with ONE FINGER. So what?
[09:15] <kyncani> godlygeek: seems reasonable
[09:16] <Bogus8> Johnyluv: you seem to be doing just as well as anyone... but you will need to register like rxKaffee is saying
[09:16] <Gh0st> Well...I'll just wait for gnuskool so sign back on.
[09:16] <Johnyluv> ok
[09:16] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: do you use qwerty keyboard layout?
[09:16] <Geek_> |_ocke: torchlight and forceps? ;)
[09:16] <Johnyluv> wwhat site do i go to.
[09:16] <kyncani> godlygeek: what were you trying to do with gparted ?
[09:16] <Johnyluv> or is there a menue i can hit
[09:16] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: there are some dvorak software layouts that are optomized for one handed typeing
[09:16] <ashraf> Please tell me which channel discusses Open office problems
[09:16] <Gh0st> Geek_: This is pretty funny/annoying.
[09:16] <Bogus8> Johnyluv: no site... scroll up and look he said type /msg nickserv help register
[09:17] <godlygeek> kyncani: it doesn't seem that the partition editor as part of the install will let me do all the partition manipulation that i needed.
[09:17] <drumline_> ashraf: maybe fsf.. dunno
[09:17] <Geek_> Gh0st: my dissappearing? ;) sorry about that, parents getting a new aircon it..
[09:17] <Gh0st> Geek_: Oh, not not that. My situation. Still can't fix this partitioning problem.
[09:17] <Johnyluv> ok
[09:17] <kyncani> godlygeek: maybe gparting with feisty's livecd would work, if you really want to test gutsy that is
[09:18] <Geek_> Gh0st: its a little late, but maybe use wubi initially?
[09:18] <Johnyluv> wait do i uninstall it or install it again?
[09:18] <godlygeek> kyncani: the heck with it.  if it's working so poorly i can't even install it fresh from CD...
[09:18] <Geek_> ashraf: there's apparently a #openoffice
[09:18] <Gh0st> Geek_: wubi?
[09:18] <godlygeek> kyncani: (This after a dist-upgrade attempt left a system unbootable)...
[09:18] <Johnyluv> who was helping me again?
[09:18] <kyncani> rotfl
[09:19] <Geek_> wubi is a way to install and uninstall ubuntu from windows
[09:19] <godlygeek> kyncani: I was never terribly impressed with edgy, either...
[09:19] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: for general chat usage help, please join the #freenode channel
[09:19] <Geek_> its rather/very slow initially but its VERY easy/trouble free
[09:19] <godlygeek> kyncani: i think i'll just use every other... dapper, feisty, and gutsy+1 are all LTS, right?
[09:19] <Bogus8> Johnyluv: you are going to have to listen to what we say man... scroll up and read it again
[09:19] <Geek_> and you can convert that to a real install later
[09:19] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: they'll be better equipped :)
[09:19] <|_ocke> edgy worked GREAT for me
[09:19] <|_ocke> feisty not so much :(
[09:19] <kyncani> feisty is not lts
[09:19] <Bogus8> rxKaffee: lol
[09:19] <kyncani> godlygeek: ^
[09:20] <Johnyluv> ok
[09:20] <Johnyluv> rxkaffee
[09:20] <Johnyluv> thanks so much
[09:20] <godlygeek> kyncani: no?  i thought it was supposed to be every other.  my mistake.
[09:20] <Gh0st> Geek_: Here's what happened after you left - I clicked apply to change the partitions, and I got an error telling me to use  ntfsresize with the -i option.
[09:20] <Geek_> its got a few issues (like downloading a 600 mb iso EVERY TIME I INSTALL) (mental note, bug report)
[09:20] <|_ocke> in fact im downright frustrated
[09:20] <Johnyluv> ok .. thats if i get any one to respond lol
[09:20] <|_ocke> kyncani, neither is edgy
[09:20] <|_ocke> dapper is lts
[09:20] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: they will respond sooner or later :)
[09:20] <Geek_> Gh0st: delete the partition, then make new ones
[09:20] <Johnyluv> sad
[09:20] <Johnyluv> bro i dont understnad
[09:20] <Johnyluv> ok this is frustrting
[09:20] <Johnyluv> driveing me crazy!
[09:20] <Gh0st> Geek_: Can I do that with gparted?
[09:21] <Geek_> sure.
[09:21] <Johnyluv> i want to just send my friend a damn song
[09:21] <Johnyluv> no..
[09:21] <godlygeek> kyncani: i don't even know.  i'm running on a macbook, and earlier than edgy just doesn't work with my hardware.
[09:21] <rxKaffee> Johnyluv: maybe your friend who wants to trade music knows how to help
[09:21] <Johnyluv> i will not give up
[09:21] <godlygeek> Johnyluv: email it to him.
[09:21] <Bogus8> Johnyluv: use xdrive.com
[09:21] <Johnyluv> he is telling me wha tyour telling me
[09:21] <kyncani> godlygeek: i would rather use debian etch than ubuntu dapper, but that's just me
[09:21] <Johnyluv> but sitll i dont understand where to go
[09:21] <rxKaffee> or sendfile.com
[09:21] <Gh0st> Geek_: Right-click sda3 and delete?
[09:21] <rxKaffee> speaking of SDA
[09:21] <Geek_> ja. just make sure its the right drive ;)
[09:21] <rxKaffee> whats the deal with ubuntu renaming my ide drives as scsi devices?!
[09:21] <Geek_> *partiton
[09:21] <Geek_> rxKaffee: SATA?
[09:22] <|_ocke> i just CANT get my nvidia drivers installed in feisty
[09:22] <|_ocke> no matter what i do
[09:22] <Bogus8> rxKaffee: is it a SATA drive?
[09:22] <kraut> moin
[09:22] <|_ocke> restricted-manager, redoing all my packages, NVIDIA-whatever.sh from nvidia.com
[09:22] <|_ocke> none work
[09:22] <|_ocke> i need a cig
[09:22] <|_ocke> brb
[09:22] <Johnyluv> lol you sent me to a damn data sender thanks dude
[09:22] <Johnyluv> but i want to use this
[09:23] <rxKaffee> Geek_: Bogus8 nope
[09:23] <EJ> [ HiFiJive] : thank you for you help i change timeout in php.ini to 120 sec and it installed correctly this time. thank you soooooo much
[09:23] <rxKaffee> not even running at full ata100 speeds, lol
[09:23] <Bogus8> Johnyluv: music IS data
[09:23] <Geek_> rxKaffee: wieeerrddddd
[09:23] <Bogus8> rxKaffee: odd... built on card or 3rd party?
[09:23] <kidbuntu> how do install Azureus_2.5.0.4_linux tarball
[09:23] <rxKaffee> wait wait... one of them is running at ata100 speed, the other, my cdrom is only at ata33
[09:23] <godlygeek> kyncani: true enough. (about dapper v etch)
[09:23] <rxKaffee> Bogus8: onboard controller
[09:23] <kidbuntu> how do install Azureus_2.5.0.4_linux.tar.bz2
[09:23] <Bogus8> rxKaffee: that is odd
[09:24] <Bogus8> kidbuntu: by repeating over and over in the channel
[09:24] <rxKaffee> kidbuntu: sudo apt-get install azureus
[09:24] <godlygeek> Johnyluv: no offense, but #ubuntu isn't the right place to ask general IRC questions.
[09:24] <kidbuntu> rxKaffee: that azureus won't work. its 2.0.0 version. if it is from apt-get
[09:24] <Johnyluv> guys i think i did it
[09:25] <Geek_> kidbuntu: why won't it work?
[09:25] <kidbuntu> rxKaffee: I have the Azureus_2.5.0.4_linux.tar.bz2.
[09:25] <godlygeek> kyncani: I'm running on a macbook, though.  etch doesn't support the hardware, edgy barely does, and feisty works pretty well.
[09:25] <rxKaffee> kidbuntu: what is wrong with 2.0.0 version?
[09:25] <Johnyluv> anyone wanna send me a song
[09:25] <Johnyluv> to try i tout
[09:25] <Johnyluv> anyone?
[09:25] <kidbuntu> Geek_: after installing. that azureus will just keep on exiting on its own everytime i start it up
[09:25] <kyncani> godlygeek: yeah, that's why i'm using feisty rather thant etch here ...
[09:25] <Johnyluv> i lov eazures
[09:25] <rxKaffee> kidbuntu: you need to uncompress it and unarchive it with bunzip and tar
[09:25] <Gh0st> Geek_: I think I got it...?
[09:26] <rxKaffee> kidbuntu: and then read the included "README" file probably
[09:26] <Geek_> Gh0st: well the, get on with the installer! ;)
[09:26] <rxKaffee> kidbuntu: chances are it needs a ./configure followed by a make and a make install
[09:26] <rxKaffee> kidbuntu: that should be outlined in the README file though
[09:26] <kyncani> godlygeek: but ubuntu has never made a lts transition
[09:26] <Bogus8> kidbuntu: google will help also ;)
[09:26] <godlygeek> kyncani: i decided to try gentoo for a while...  the part that bothered me wasn't even the constant compiling, it was the fact that it had fewer apps in its repos...
[09:26] <kidbuntu> rxKaffee: ok. so its not just like .deb that we dpkg -i.
[09:26] <HiFiJive> is there a hardware troubleshooting room?
[09:26] <Geek_> rxKaffee: its java, not c so its more likely not
[09:26] <Gh0st> Well, it finished the operations after applying, and...now there are two hard disk icon on my ubuntu desktop.
[09:26] <kyncani> godlygeek: the compiling is awful
[09:26] <luke_> Hay can someone please tell me how to get more than 2 desktops??
[09:26] <Johnyluv> anyone wanna send me a song, to see if its working?>
[09:26] <Geek_> kidbuntu: no.
[09:26] <Johnyluv> please anyone , ;)
[09:26] <Sithe> I have no kernal module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[09:26] <Johnyluv> lol
[09:26] <godlygeek> kyncani: distcc makes it bearable.  :)
[09:26] <kyncani> godlygeek: especially for updates ...
[09:27] <rxKaffee> Geek_: ooooh, had forgotten about that!
[09:27] <gnuskool> Gh0st, u still around?
[09:27] <Gh0st> Gnuskool:
[09:27] <Johnyluv> me ?
[09:27] <Gh0st> YEah
[09:27] <Geek_> forgotten what?
[09:27] <godlygeek> kyncani: haha, emerge -DuvaN world - REBUILD ALMOST EVERYTHING.  lol
[09:27] <Johnyluv> like me ??
[09:27] <Gh0st> * Gnuskool: Yeah.
[09:27] <Geek_> oh, that ;)
[09:27] <Johnyluv> wow no one really listens
[09:27] <kyncani> godlygeek: try taking a rather long vacation and making updates when you come back ...
[09:27] <luke_> hello is it possable to get more than 2 desktops huh?
[09:27] <godlygeek> kyncani: yeh, i'm giving up on it after a month.
[09:27] <Gh0st> Geek_: My desktop on ubuntu now has two hard disk icons on it. Is that right?
[09:27] <gnuskool> Gh0st, soz, i had to reboot, listen, you need to unmount that ntfs partition, use umount command
[09:28] <rxKaffee> kidbuntu: did you try checking packages.ubuntu website to see if there's a more recent version in ubuntu's "unstable" repo?
[09:28] <Bogus8> luke_: try guessing.. like right clicking on the pager
[09:28] <Sithe> I have no kernal module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[09:28] <megatog615> Can someone tell me the fastest and most stable filesystem for /home?
[09:28] <Gh0st> Gnuskool: I think I did...
[09:28] <Geek_> Gh0st: probably.
[09:28] <godlygeek> kyncani: mostly because of reading the nightmare stories about how poorly gcc updates go.  i don't ever want to have to deal with errors like "gcc: can't create executables".  lol
[09:28] <ballin> hi i was wondering if somebody could help me with fiesty on a laptop
[09:28] <godlygeek> ballin: what about it?
[09:28] <HiFiJive> luke I take it you didnt bother trying anything yet
[09:28] <godlygeek> ballin: something in particular not working?
[09:28] <Gh0st> Geek_: If I run gparted one more time and send you a screenshot, will you be able to tell me if it's right?
[09:28] <kyncani> godlygeek: or updates stopping at 20% because some package would not compile and then be stuck with security holes ...
[09:28] <Geek_> Gh0st: i think so
[09:29] <Gh0st> Geek_: Ok. Hold on.
[09:29] <Geek_> no rush ;)
[09:29] <luke_> nah i casnt find were to get more???
[09:29] <Geek_> aircon's in and dog's quieted down ;p
[09:29] <ballin> i recently put it on, and i tried to use the desktop effects, but after the screen changed my screen just stayed white, now whenever i start it it just goes to a white screen, anyway of getting out of this?
[09:29] <Bogus8> luke_: then you can't be helped ;)
[09:29] <luke_> what is the channel for the ubuntu effects
[09:29] <ballin> i'd just reinstall it but the cdrom is busted and took like 3 hours to put it on the first go
[09:29] <godlygeek> gentoo, grew disenfranchised quickly, tried to install gutsy from cd, and about to frickin scream and install feisty from a CD again, lol
[09:30] <kyncani> godlygeek: and the libraries being updated, then some high-level apps (kde gnome) would not work and you have to compile everyghin and hope you can use your computer tomorrow ...
[09:30] <ballin> luke: what do you mean by channel?
[09:30] <|_ocke> k
[09:30] <luke_> an IRC chennal
[09:30] <Geek_> luke_  http://www.gnome.org/learn/users-guide/latest/overview-workspaces.html ?
[09:30] <gnuskool> Geek_, u seen Gh0st's pastebin?
[09:30] <bullgard4> I have changed my Irssi config almost completely to the Freenode network. It works by and large. Are there reasons to switch over to the OFTC network?
[09:30] <luke_> cool thanx Geek
[09:30] <Geek_> gnuskool: no, just screenies
[09:30] <ballin> whoops
[09:30] <Geek_> OFTC?
[09:30] <Bogus8> bullgard4: why does irssi have to be set up for one vs the other
[09:31] <Geek_> bullgard4: are there any channels on OFTC you want to go to? ;)
[09:31] <Bogus8> bullgard4: I'm on 4 different networks at all time
[09:31] <gnuskool> Geek_, he got a pastebin, its under his handle, but ask him for the link
[09:31] <godlygeek> kyncani: haha, gnome, kde, who needs them... all i want is w3m, vim, screen, openbox, and xterm... (and sometimes firefox)
[09:31] <Bogus8> bullgard4: including freenode AND OFTC
[09:31] <Sithe> I have no kernal module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[09:31] <Geek_> gnuskool: and i need it cause..?
[09:31] <Geek_> ;)
[09:31] <brucewagner> hello
[09:31] <Gh0st> Geek_ * Gnuskool: Here's how gparted looks now: http://i11.tinypic.com/4lqrehi
[09:31] <ballin> i guess i gotta reinstall =/
[09:32] <kyncani> godlygeek: well, once even ls, rm and the like did not work after an "upgrade" ...
[09:32] <Geek_> Gh0st: your in business ;)
[09:32] <Geek_> now you can start the install
[09:32] <Sithe> I have no kernal module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[09:32] <Sithe> I have no kernal module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[09:32] <Gh0st> Geek_: That's right?!! Wait...what's with the unallocated 5MB?
[09:32] <godlygeek> kyncani: i managed to get that at least once during an ubuntu dist-upgrade, too.
[09:32] <Bogus8> Sithe: you should repeat a lot of times in the channel... that should do the trick
[09:32] <Geek_> Gh0st: er.. rounding errors...  ;)
[09:32] <godlygeek> kyncani: libc6 half-updated.  *shudder*
[09:33] <|_ocke> johnyluv left?
[09:33] <Geek_> you can probably expand a drive to fill it up
[09:33] <bullgard4> Bogus8: My Irssi config subscribes to both networks, Freenode and OFTC. What good use could I make of OFTC?
[09:33] <Gh0st> Geek_: Um...Ok...? -Shrug.-
[09:33] <|_ocke> darn, i was just trying to send him a link to a mp3 i wanted him to hear
[09:33] <gnuskool> Geek_, good 1, alls well that ends well i s'pose
[09:33] <kyncani> godlygeek: well, nothing like gentoo breakage though
[09:33] <Bogus8> bullgard4: I use it to talk to people in channels on the OFTC network ;)
[09:33] <Geek_> Bogus8: i was about to spelling correct him... K E R N E L ;)
[09:33] <Bogus8> Geek_: LOL
[09:34] <godlygeek> kyncani: i'm good with linux, but not great... i wound up just reinstalling from cd on that one.  how are you supposed to fix anything when you can't rm, or apt-get, or scp... lol
[09:34] <luke_> nah how do i add more workplaces????
[09:34] <bullgard4> Geek_: Is there a list which lists all channels available on OFTC?
[09:34] <Gh0st> Running installer now.
[09:34] <Geek_> luke_ : i linked you just now how to
[09:34] <Bogus8> luke_: dude, this isn't that difficult... we can only help you help yourself
[09:34] <kyncani> godlygeek: use the ever great busybox
[09:34] <Bogus8> and we are struggling ;)
[09:34] <Geek_> bullgard4: /list on that server. it might fail if there's too many
[09:34] <Johnyluv> anyone ever played HOMEWORLD??
[09:34] <godlygeek> kyncani: apt-get install busybox wouldn't work... lol :)
[09:34] <r-c> how do i change the icon size on my desktop?
[09:35] <kyncani> godlygeek: at the very least, with ubuntu, you can do a full reinstall in an hour.
[09:35] <godlygeek> kyncani: though if i had it around, i probably would have given it a shot.
[09:35] <ballin> i tried to use the desktop effects, but after the screen changed my screen just stayed white, now whenever i start it it just goes to a white screen, anyway of getting out of this, possibly though safe mode?
[09:35] <godlygeek> kyncani: true.
[09:35] <luke_> but the website just says right click on the workplace switcher and choose how many you want in the prefferances and i cant do that???
[09:35] <Bogus8> bullgard4: there are some websites that will list channels or let you search them
[09:35] <dixon> r-c: I think when u change the size in nautilus it will change also size on ur desktop
[09:35] <Johnyluv> ok so i registerd
[09:35] <matti> Morning :-)
[09:35] <kyncani> godlygeek: of course, i had it around before, in prevision of some disaster
[09:35] <Bogus8> luke_: hmmm sounds just like what *I* told you to do!
[09:35] <godlygeek> i don't suppose there's some magical way to tell the live cd ubuntu to "spit out the cd and keep working so that i can burn another cd in here"...
[09:35] <Johnyluv> and i was trying to send a file "song:
[09:35] <Johnyluv> to my friend.,
[09:35] <Johnyluv> still noting
[09:35] <chylli> question: I'm runing mysql 5 on feisty. but mysql 5 didn't write anything to /var/log/mysql.err. why ?
[09:35] <godlygeek> kyncani: I'm gonna have to remember to do that in the future.
[09:35] <Johnyluv> Bogus can you help me out plese
[09:36] <luke_> yeah but it doesnt WORK
[09:36] <godlygeek> kyncani: busybox is all statically-linked, right?
[09:36] <ViRaveNuS> http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugpackage.html
[09:36] <ViRaveNuS> all about linux
[09:36] <Geek_> godlygeek: don't think so
[09:36] <Johnyluv> man wsih i can get some help righ tnow.
[09:36] <Bogus8> Johnyluv: you need to go to the channel of your client or #freenode, we can't help you any futher
[09:36] <Johnyluv> sware so much info in the air
[09:36] <r-c> dixon: where would i find nautilus? i'm very new to ubuntu desktop
[09:36] <Gh0st> Geek_ & Gnuskool: One last check. Is this right: http://i18.tinypic.com/61n432c.png
[09:36] <kyncani> godlygeek: now i keep a small debian as my first partition, in case something wrong happen in ubuntu (which it did some days ago)
[09:36] <luke_> there is noware to put how many workplaces i need
[09:36] <bullgard4> Geek_: I have been warned not to use the /list command. But you are recommending to use it. Are those warnings nonsense?
[09:36] <Sithe> I have no kernel module in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[09:36] <Bogus8> luke_: is for me and I would guess everyone else in this channel
[09:36] <kyncani> godlygeek: busybox is an almost-all-in-one thing
[09:37] <Johnyluv> ok ok ok
[09:37] <chylli> I'm runing mysql 5 on feisty. but mysql 5 didn't write anything to /var/log/mysql.err. why ? I remember mysql will write things to error log when it start up or stop
[09:37] <kyncani> godlygeek: just one binary with every rm, ls, ... command in it
[09:37] <Geek_> bullgard4: at worst your client will refuse, or crash
[09:37] <Johnyluv> thanks everyone, fare well.
[09:37] <Johnyluv> its been great talking to you
[09:37] <godlygeek> kyncani: i'm somewhat limited in partition choice on this machine... of the four primary partitions i get, osx uses 2.  :(
[09:37] <Geek_> Gh0st: looks fine to me
[09:37] <Johnyluv> i guess its time to go back home.
[09:37] <Bogus8> bullgard4: worse case senario they server drops you for flooding and you reconnect
[09:37] <luke_> Bogus8: Yeah i cant enter how many i want
[09:37] <Gh0st> Oh, thank god...
[09:37] <Johnyluv> to my "Homne town."
[09:37] <dixon> r-c: e.g. open ur home directory (places -> home folder) and the nautilus is opened(it's the soft for browsing ur files). then edit->preferences -> icon view defaults - set it e.g to 75%
[09:37] <Johnyluv> as bogus8 said
[09:37] <Johnyluv> i must return to my site...
[09:37] <Geek_> Gh0st: going well? ;)
[09:37] <gnuskool> Gh0st, yeah man
[09:37] <godlygeek> kyncani: I know WHAT it is, i was just wondering if it was statically linked.  I'm almost certain it is, since it needs to work on such low-end systems.
[09:37] <dissection> What do I need to do in order to play DV50 video files?
[09:38] <godlygeek> kyncani: if it were dynamically linked, you wouldn't be able to launch it, either.  :)
[09:38] <kyncani> godlygeek: well, debian for rescue as 3 and then ubuntu in an etended part with evrything
[09:38] <Gh0st> Geek_: I choose sda3 (ext3)'s mount point to be "/", right?
[09:38] <Bogus8> dissection: where did you get a dv50 file?
[09:38] <Geek_> godlygeek: statically linked and a single binary IIRC
[09:38] <r-c> dixon: thanks, i'll try that
[09:38] <Geek_> Gh0st: yup
[09:38] <dixon> r-c: hope it'll work ;)
[09:38] <wnet> temari
[09:38] <godlygeek> Geek_: yes, a single binary for certain.  I suppose it has to be statically linked.
[09:38] <dissection> Bogus8: I downloaded it from a site to practice chroma keying and compositing.
[09:39] <Gh0st> Geek_: I can make a home later, after I have in installed right?
[09:39] <godlygeek> kyncani: isn't debian a bit heavy for a rescue?
[09:39] <Gh0st> */home
[09:39] <Geek_> godlygeek: yup. considering its gnuutils light in a way
[09:39] <kyncani> godlygeek: i mean it's all like it was statically linked
[09:39] <Bogus8> dissection: wondering cause that is a huge file...  Umm... whatever you are going to composite or chromakey in should play it
[09:39] <kyncani> godlygeek: 200 Mb
[09:39] <Geek_> Gh0st: probably, though would need a little work. seperate /homes are more backup reasons
[09:39] <Geek_> *more for
[09:39] <dissection> Bogus8: Well yes, its 1.3GB for a 5 minute clip.
[09:39] <godlygeek> kyncani: huh.  :)  lighter than knoppix, then.  :)
[09:39] <Gh0st> Geek_: Ok. Well, I'll just go from here for now.
[09:39] <Bogus8> dissection: word
[09:39] <kyncani> godlygeek: 250 Mb used on a 2Gb rescue partition, with firefox and xmms even
[09:40] <dissection> Bogus8: I haven't tried a compositing application in Linux yet. I thought installing a video codec will bring the support to my video player?
[09:40] <godlygeek> kyncani: I don't know anything about LVM, but i'm pretty sure that even with LVM, ubuntu's /boot would need to be on a primary partition to load the initrd.
[09:40] <bullgard4> Bogus8: Is it technically correct to say that I can use (for example) the #ubuntu channel either via the Freenode network or via the OFTC network?
[09:40] <TehBotol> how to configure ip in ubuntu server from consol
[09:40] <TehBotol> help me
[09:40] <Bogus8> dissection: not sure.. there is what? Live? I think that is a video editor?  I use Vegas
[09:40] <kyncani> godlygeek: nope, /boot can be in an extended partition
[09:40] <Geek_> bullgard4: sure, but there would be different people there
[09:40] <r-c> dixon: thanks, that did the trick, only my thunderbird icon is still the same size :(
[09:40] <godlygeek> TehBotol: ifconfig interfacename ipaddress
[09:41] <godlygeek> TehBotol: sudo !!
[09:41] <TehBotol> ohh
[09:41] <Bogus8> bullgard4: no, a channel resides on the network that it resides on.. there may be ANOTHER channel with the same name but rarely are they mirrored
[09:41] <TehBotol> yups
[09:41] <TehBotol> thanks
[09:41] <luke_> some one help me please
[09:41] <dixon> r-c: resize it manually :) right click on the icon -> stretch icon ;)
[09:41] <Bogus8> bullgard4: but it CAN happen
[09:41] <bullgard4> Geek_: Ah! That is new to me. Thank you for explaining.
[09:41] <Geek_> hmmm
[09:41] <godlygeek> kyncani: perhaps i need to read up on LVM some more, then.
[09:41] <cables> How can I get rid of all of xubuntu-desktop's dependencies after putting in ubuntu-desktop?
[09:41] <godlygeek> kyncani: I really SHOULD keep /home on a separate partition...
[09:41] <luke_> Geek_: CAn you help me?
[09:41] <Cr0w-> hello, i've installed beryl and emerald..and works..but i dont know how to use the themes that appears in emerald theme manager
[09:41] <gnuskool> luke_, spit out the prob
[09:42] <dissection> Bogus8: Whats the link to Vegas and/or Live? I couldn't find them
[09:42] <Geek_> luke_ i did as best as i could. i use kubuntu and windows mainly so...
[09:42] <godlygeek> cables: you mean, how do you remove all of the xubuntu apps?
[09:42] <luke_> i cant choose how many workplaces i want?
[09:42] <Bogus8> dissection: Vegas is windows only
[09:42] <kyncani> godlygeek: i don't, i just don't reformat, and as i understand, you don't either :)
[09:42] <bullgard4> Bogus8: Thank you for explaining.
[09:42] <dissection> Bogus8: Oh, ;[
[09:42] <Geek_> luke_ you can, i linked it, and i don't know why it didn't work
[09:42] <Bogus8> dissection: I read about live in a linux mag... let me see if it's handy
[09:42] <r-c> dixon: :D thanks again, that did it
[09:42] <cables> godlygeek, yep... not just the apps, though, the libraries and stuff as well.
[09:42] <Bogus8> bullgard4: no prob
[09:42] <dixon> r-c: u're welcome ;)
[09:42] <godlygeek> kyncani: no, but it WOULD be nice to have /home and /var on separate partitions so that runnin outta space doesn't hose a system.
[09:43] <luke_> gnuskool: I cant choose how many workplaces i want in Ubuntu 7.10
[09:43] <godlygeek> cables: good luck
[09:43] <cables> godlygeek, hey, thanks a lot :P
[09:43] <bullgard4> Bogus8: Does Canonical prefer Freenode or OFTC?
[09:43] <godlygeek> cables: if you had installed xubuntu-desktop with aptitude, an aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop should remove everything that it depends, as well.
[09:43] <Bogus8> bullgard4: I have no clue what that is
[09:43] <luke_> Geek_: well im trying to get help from other people y it dont work
[09:43] <dissection> Bogus8: Okay, cool.
[09:43] <soundray> cables: remove the xubuntu-desktop package, then run apt-get autoremove
[09:43] <godlygeek> cables: but, i don't know any way to fake that with apt-get.
[09:43] <cables> soundray, i'll try that
[09:43] <kyncani> godlygeek: yeah, it would be nice, but i'm using a laptop and i don't have much disk space. So i can't afford space being wasted in / or /var
[09:43] <godlygeek> cables: apt-get doesn't (didn't?) track dependency information.
[09:43] <Geek_> bullgard4: wrong question, what you should be asking is, "do i get the answer i need? " ;)
[09:44] <godlygeek> kyncani: yeh, i'm on a laptop with a big hard drive but an even bigger media folder.  :)
[09:44] <kyncani> godlygeek: i should read on lvm some day too :)
[09:44] <cables> godlygeek, well, it sort of does... it can do autoremove. But I don't know if the installer marks the xubuntu-desktop deps as automatically installed.
[09:44] <Bogus8> dissection: it's in the June 07 issue of Linux pro magazine
[09:44] <chylli> where does mysql write its error log to ?
[09:44] <godlygeek> cables: right.
[09:44] <wnet> www.frienster.com
[09:44] <Gh0st> Geek_: Hehe...One final check...This good: http://i15.tinypic.com/4yplfev.png  ...:-/?
[09:44] <gnuskool> luke_,You can change the number of workspaces by right-clicking on the workspace area and choosing "Preferences."
[09:44] <dissection> Bogus8: Uhm, I don't get Linux Magazines here. I live in a small village.
[09:44] <wnet> hai
[09:45] <wnet> hai
[09:45] <dixon> Hi, can anybody help me with ATI+fglrx+big desktop? Actually everything works fine, except for one thing. Dunno y, but primary display is set to tv and secondary to my lcd. I wanna have LCD as my primary display. Where can I change this option?
[09:45] <Bogus8> dissection: probably online (that's why I mention it)
[09:45] <Bogus8> dissection: http://lives.sourceforge.net
[09:45] <luke_> gnuskool: yeah i did that and there is noware to put how many i want
[09:45] <soundray> cables: if you're still tight for space after that, autoclean the package cache (apt-get autoclean), then see what the biggest installed packages are (ls -srS /var/cache/apt/archives) and remove those that you don't need.
[09:45] <Geek_> Gh0st: yup
[09:45] <dissection> Bogus8: Thanks
[09:45] <ph1zzle> hey guys, suppose I just accidently did a non recursive delete of /boot/* what is the packahes I need to re install right now?
[09:45] <godlygeek> cables: assuming some scripting knowledge, you could probably come up with a recursive list of all dependencies of xubuntu-desktop that are not dependencies of ubuntu-desktop?
[09:45] <Geek_> godspeed? ;)
[09:45] <kidbuntu> what does NAT means in azureus? cause I have a yellow icon
[09:45] <Gh0st> :-D Ginskool & Geek_ = New best friends! >.< (Just messing)
[09:45] <godlygeek> cabldevil: then apt-get remove on the whole list.  :)
[09:46] <Gh0st> *Gnuskool
[09:46] <Bogus8> dissection: not sure if it doesn't compositing or chromakey... most linux apps like this are still kind of in infancy
[09:46] <Bogus8> dissection: that is why I still have a windows box as my main computer, I need it for video and audio editing
[09:46] <Geek_> kidbuntu: network address translation. you're behind a router and should open a port for azureus
[09:46] <gnuskool> Gh0st, lol, no prob
[09:46] <kyncani> godlygeek: i should go now, it was nice talking to you
[09:46] <godlygeek> kyncani: nice talking to you.  :)
[09:47] <Gh0st> I think I need to close GAIM. So, I'll get on tomorrow and tell you all if it works.
[09:47] <Gh0st> Thanks again!!!!
[09:47] <luke_> gnuskool: i tried it and i cant find were to enter how many i want????
[09:47] <kidbuntu> GeeK_: how should i get that fixed. or is it fine to run azureus with that yellow icon?
[09:47] <Gh0st> ^^
[09:47] <dissection> Bogus8: Well there's Nuke 4.5 but its $5000 :[
[09:47] <Bogus8> dissection: hmm, that's insanely steep
[09:47] <Bogus8> dissection: does that come with hardware?
[09:47] <Geek_> kidbuntu: it will work, but be a little slow. to fix it, check what port azureus is on, then forward the port to your system in your router
[09:48] <dissection> Bogus8: No, software only. Its by digital domain and used on many high end projects.
[09:48] <kidbuntu> Geek_ where can i check that?
[09:48] <kidbuntu> Geek_ like this one 48345
[09:48] <Geek_> yeah
[09:48] <Geek_> I DO
[09:48] <Geek_> erm
[09:48] <Geek_> wrong windows
[09:48] <Geek_> windows
[09:48] <Bogus8> dissection: hmm, never heard of it... mostly people use Final Cut and Avid on macs
[09:49] <Geek_> er /windows/s/window
[09:49] <Bogus8> I'm not a fan of either mac or FCP... though Live type is SWEET!
[09:49] <dissection> Bogus8: Yeah I've heard of those two apps.
[09:49] <dissection> Bogus8: http://www.d2software.com/
[09:50] <Bogus8> dissection: that url looks familiar
[09:50] <Bogus8> dissection: ah, that is a plug in for those apps
[09:50] <Bogus8> dissection: not a standalone app
[09:50] <michal_> elo
[09:51] <dissection> Bogus8: Ah okay. I was just going through a list of composting pacakges in 3D World Magazine.
[09:51] <Bogus8> dissection: look under the "products" menu it shows "for after effects" "for avid" blah blah blah
[09:51] <dissection> Bogus8: There's also Shake by Apple that runs on Mac and Linux for $500. I'll probably get my hands on that.
[09:52] <Bogus8> dissection: I'd be interested in how it compares to "real" apps... but I guess you aren't experienced with them really eh?
[09:53] <dissection> Bogus8: No not experienced.
[09:53] <Bogus8> dissection: what I've seen on linux is rather limited... even if I find video that works well I still will need audio and that wont' happen on the level there is on windows.. the plug in support is just massive
[09:53] <dissection> Bogus8: There was this contest on a site where you get to create a music video and the best one'd be chosen as the official one. Thats when I downloaded the DV50 video files which were all videos shot in front of a greenscreen. I thought it'll be a good idea to download them for and keep it for the future when I start learning compositing packages.
[09:54] <Bogus8> dissection: unless someone like cubase or sonar makes a linux version
[09:55] <Bogus8> dissection: yeah, after effects and some plug in like nuke or Ultimatte is the way to go
[09:55] <Bogus8> dissection: but that's windows and mac
[09:56] <Shaye> Why do I have to type 'dhclient' everytime i restart my server? _connected to a router_
[09:58] <Gh0st> Ok...That's not right...
[09:58] <Gh0st> Just before it installs, it gives me this: The installer needs to commit changes to partition tables, but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount points could not be unmounted:
[09:58] <Gh0st> /media/TOSHIBA\040SYSTEM\040VOLUME
[09:58] <Gh0st> Please close any applications using these mount points.
[09:58] <Gh0st> Would you like the installer to try to unmount these partitions again?
[09:59] <Gh0st> But, in gparted, it says the directory isn't found.
[09:59] <Shaye> Why do I have to type 'dhclient' everytime i restart my server if i want to get an ip address from my router/dhcp? _connected to a router_
[10:01] <dissection> Btw, I'm about to buy a laptop this week. Which one would be better to use in Linux, one with an ATI card, or nVidia?
[10:01] <Gh0st> Geek_: It says something about not being able to unmount /media/TOSHIBA SYSTEM/040VOLUME because there is no such file or directory.
[10:01] <Bogus8> dissection: nvidia from what i've gathered
[10:01] <Gh0st> It's one of the partitions, and gparted won't let me unmount it.
[10:02] <dissection> Bogus8: Great! The one I'm looking at has a 1GB GeForce.
[10:03] <|_ocke> meah
[10:03] <Bogus8> dissection: linux has great nvidia support.... or vice versa
[10:03] <|_ocke> got another beer but still no nvidia driver working
[10:03] <Gh0st> Locke: Can you help me?
[10:03] <|_ocke> Bogus8, not for me :P
[10:04] <Bogus8> |_ocke: sorry mate... USUALLY haha
[10:04] <dissection> I hope I won't run into any issues.
[10:04] <Mas-Ganteng> YO
[10:04] <|_ocke> Bogus8, yeah i know its been flawless for me up until i just upgraded to 7.04
[10:04] <dissection> I need to slap myself for not trying Linux before. I had a Linuxophobia :[
[10:04] <|_ocke> now i finally got the packages setup correctly, installed restricted-manager, had it install the drivers
[10:04] <|_ocke> didnt work
[10:05] <Bogus8> dissection: i'm sure there is an #nvidia channel... or maybe #x11 could tell you better
[10:05] <|_ocke> so it loaded into text mode, i tried to install the drivers manually, gave a LOT of errors, didnt work
[10:05] <|_ocke> changed xorg.conf to 'nv' and loaded, and thats wehre i am
[10:05] <Sithe> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Emo
[10:05] <Sithe> wups.. ignore that
[10:06] <Qwerty_> How can I reconfigure alsa I stuffed it up in alsa-mixer
[10:06] <Qwerty_> err alsamixer
[10:06] <sauvin> Sithe, that page is... disturbimg.
[10:06] <Sithe> sauvin: It is lulz
[10:06] <Bogus8> |_ocke: i am very new to X, so i am of no use :(
[10:06] <sauvin> What does "lulz" mean?
[10:07] <Sithe> sauvin: a corruption of L-O-L
[10:07] <Sithe> sauvin: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Lulz
[10:07] <sauvin> Pfeh. People, I've observed, have bizarre senses of humour.
[10:07] <|_ocke> Bogus8, didnt expect you were so no worries
[10:07] <dissection> Funny, we use "lulz", "lul", "larl", "lawl", or "lewl" in our channel
[10:08] <Bogus8> |_ocke: thanks dick :p
[10:08] <|_ocke> lewl? thats kinda lame
[10:08] <|_ocke> Bogus8, hehe sorry, just know what to expect
[10:08] <Sithe> The only that I have a bizarre sense of humor is because fglrx and openGL are being gay.
[10:08] <Bogus8> just fucking with ya
[10:08] <|_ocke> Bogus8, i've been running linux since slackware 3.0, am not an expert, but figured i know more than most people who arent regulars at least
[10:09] <|_ocke> and therefore anybody that is asking questions probably cant help me :P
[10:09] <Bogus8> |_ocke: I tried Slack 9... but interested faded
[10:09] <|_ocke> yeah slack was really only cool back when it was the most advanced one out
[10:09] <|_ocke> back in 3.0-4.0 days
[10:09] <Bogus8> |_ocke: I've been using headless systems for a few years now... just no X systems
[10:10] <|_ocke> and wasnt really taht cool then except in relation to windows on the same systems that could run slack seamlessly
[10:10] <Bogus8> Sadly I only use windows for surfing and I still can't force myself to convert over
[10:10] <Bogus8> I mostly run Opera and Putty
[10:10] <|_ocke> linux was cool back 10 years ago if you had a system that all components were supported
[10:10] <sauvin> locke, what is the best mechanism for passing messages or signals between disparate threads or even forked processes running under perl in an OO-friendly manner?
[10:10] <|_ocke> but now it is actually cool in all configurations
[10:11] <|_ocke> sauvin, couldnt tell ya
[10:11] <Bogus8> I tried redhat 4 a little also
[10:11] <Sithe> Omfg I fucking hate Linux!
[10:11] <Bogus8> i think it was 4... it was like 5-6 years ago
[10:11] <|_ocke> i dont know much perl, but from what i have haerd perl isnt the greatest for OO
[10:11] <Sithe> Im about to cry right now.
[10:11] <sauvin> It's passable, but it's not as strong as other languages, that's true enough.
[10:11] <|_ocke> Bogus8, probably, i think 4 was released about 6-7 eyars ago
[10:11] <sauvin> sithe, what's up?
[10:12] <|_ocke> for OO, I stick to straight cpp
[10:12] <Sithe> sauvin: openGL isn't working!
[10:12] <|_ocke> ive always been mostly a C enthusiast
[10:12] <Sithe> sauvin: I have no opengl kernel in xorg.0.log or w/e that file is
[10:12] <Qwerty_> How can I set alsa to defaults?
[10:12] <|_ocke> i also really like ASM, and had a particular interest in 6502 asm
[10:12] <|_ocke> but its not really that useful anymoer except for specific routines
[10:13] <|_ocke> and for homebrew roms
[10:13] <sauvin> Sithe, what card do you have?
[10:13] <Sithe> sauvin: ATI RADEON X800   (eek its an ATI, run!)
[10:13] <|_ocke> never learned any 68k asm but i never owned a mac so..
[10:13] <sauvin> locke, asm has lost none of its utility, it's simply been eclipsed by the realisation that development time is also a cost factor.
[10:13] <|_ocke> well yes
[10:13] <sauvin> I have an ATI, and GL is working for me.
[10:14] <|_ocke> asm is still just as quick and effective, but the days of writing your own functions to save 75% CPU time are long gone
[10:14] <Sithe> sauvin: Any advice to get it working?
[10:14] <sauvin> Moment... it was a Ubuntu page that told me how to get the freaking thing working under Fedora Core.
[10:15] <|_ocke> you might be able to save 10-15% now, but even so unless its a function that is used nearly constantly, you wont see any improvement in performance but maybe like 1fps in a graphical environment, since nearly all such processes are done on the gpu via card specific opcodes
[10:15] <sauvin> And now, of course, I can't seem to find it.
[10:15] <araizen> is there a dpkg equivalent of rpmfind.net?
[10:16] <sauvin> Sithe, could you bop over to #kubuntu and ask those folks? They may know something. I'm too tired to make a lot of sense.
[10:16] <Sithe> alright will do
[10:17] <|_ocke> particularly, it is not worth it anymore to spend 2 weeks coding a pure asm routine which can be done in 2 hours with a platform independent language that on 95% of all end-users systems will not see any increase in performance because it is already performing optimally
[10:17] <Flannel> araizen: what does rpmfind.net do?
[10:17] <araizen> lets you search for and download .rpm files
[10:17] <Flannel> araizen: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:17] <r-c> does anyone have an idea why my wireless would disconnect every now and then, about 2-4 times per hour ?
[10:17] <araizen> but all those i'm going to be able to get via apt-get anyway, no?
[10:17] <Shaye> How can I make it so that my server will get auto IP from the dhcp server/connected to a router? i have to type dhclient everytime...
[10:18] <Flannel> araizen: Right.
[10:18] <dgjones> araizen, if the package you want isn't in the ubuntu repo's you could also look at www.getdeb.net
[10:18] <araizen> how about all kinds of files from other distros, etc.?
[10:18] <araizen> ah okay, thanks
[10:18] <octa> Bonjouuuuuur =)
[10:20] <Shaye> is there anyone who can help *hello*
[10:22] <zzaza> Anyone running ubuntu on mac ?
[10:22] <xstasi> zzaza, what's your problem
[10:23] <Shaye> How can I make it so that my server will get auto IP from the dhcp server/connected to a router? i have to type dhclient everytime...
[10:23] <neumind> i want ask.. if you want make own domain on Bind9 ubuntu its need 2 ip?
[10:24] <Geek_> zzaza: There's ubuntu for mac? PPC? link?
[10:24] <xstasi> Shaye, man interfaces
[10:24] <zzaza> xstasi, just installed ubuntu on a ibook g3 500mhz 640mb memory but its quite slow
[10:24] <xstasi> i can guess
[10:24] <xstasi> :)
[10:25] <neumind>  if i want make own domain on Bind9 ubuntu its need 2 ip?
[10:25] <xstasi> i used to run it on ibook g4 256mb
[10:25] <Flannel> Geek_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/
[10:25] <Shaye> xstasi i can't find the answer there though
[10:25] <ubuntu_> Im having trouble trying to make ubuntu run on another portion so i can have windows and ubuntu, but the help files in the download seem like they are for another version, can anyone help?
[10:26] <Flannel> !dualboot | ubuntu_
[10:26] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[10:26] <ubuntu_> yes how to dual boot
[10:26] <thunkt> I've just created a small website I plan to use as my homepage, I want to have a bunch of rss feeds on the one page, can anyone tell me what I'd use for this?
[10:27] <xstasi> Shaye, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:28] <Walls7> Im on the installation right now for ubuntu, and its on the "prepare partions" step, can someone please tell me what to do so i can set up a dual boot?
[10:28] <zzaza> xstasi,  i think am going to run xfce ,do u have any doc/info about ur installation on ibook g4
[10:28] <Flannel> Walls7: do you have freespace on your drives?
[10:28] <bullgard4> MM_CHARSET=ISO-8859-15. Ist this value correct? Doesn't it have to be UTF-8?
[10:28] <Shaye> xstasi that's what i type or do i need to edit a file or something? i am very new to linux sorry
[10:29] <howlingmadhowie> you say partions, i say portions :)
[10:29] <xstasi> Shaye, /etc/network/interfaces
[10:29] <xstasi> try to get some help by someone
[10:29] <xstasi> i have to go afk
[10:29] <xstasi> ttyl :)
[10:29] <Walls7> Flannel: yea i do
[10:29] <Flannel> Walls7: Then create a partition in that free space
[10:29] <Flannel> zzaza: that PPC or intel?
[10:29] <howlingmadhowie> bullgard4: iso-8859-15 are western european with euro-sign
[10:30] <Walls7> how much free space is needed?
[10:30] <thunkt> Walls7: I would recommend 2 partitions, 256mb for a swap space, and whatever you want for your actual ubuntu install
[10:30] <Flannel> Walls7: oh, you mean freespace in your windows partition.  i meant unallocated freespace on your drive.  You'll need ... what, like 2GB minimum?  You'll need to shrink your current partition
[10:30] <neumind>  if i want make own domain on Bind9 ubuntu its need 2 ip?
[10:30] <Geek_> bullgard4: its fine.
[10:31] <zzaza> Flannel, its ppc just destroyed the mac os x and installed ubuntu. btw i have never used a mac before
[10:31] <bullgard4> howlingmadhowie: I know already what you told me. But this does not answermy question if this value is correct for an international communication.
[10:31] <Walls7> Flannel: ok, so how would i do that
[10:31] <Flannel> zzaza: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/7.04/release/  That's Xubuntu for PPC, just download, burn, and boot and follow the install instructions
[10:31] <howlingmadhowie> Walls7: for an ubuntu installation i'd always want at least 10 GB (but i do tend to install a lot of software)
[10:31] <Juhaz> bullgard4, there is no charset that is "correct" for all purposes, it entirely depends on people you're communicating to.
[10:32] <Deags> greetings everyone
[10:32] <Walls7> SO how would i shrink my current partion?
[10:32] <Flannel> Walls7: Uh, it's best to boot to windows and defrag first, before resizing.  Also, if you have any windows based partition stuff (partition magic or whatnot) you'd be better off shrinking with that.
[10:32] <bullgard4> Juhaz: There is no internatinally agreed MIME character set?
[10:32] <howlingmadhowie> bullgard4: what sort of international communication? 8859-15 supports the german/french/spanish/skandinavian accents and special letters. it doesn't support cjk etc.
[10:32] <jaro> HI guys, got trouble: How can i change from wireless to wired.. without rebooting ?
[10:32] <zzaza> Flannel, thanks being new to mac world even the keyboard keys are all new to me
[10:32] <Deags> i have a ati radeon 9800 and wanting to get drivers for it am i out of luck?
[10:33] <howlingmadhowie> bullgard4: if you want to be sure, use utf-8
[10:33] <Geek_> jaro: ifdown the wired connection, ifup the other one
[10:33] <Geek_> *wireless
[10:34] <andyp__> hi
[10:34] <dromer> does anyone care to help my with my dhc-problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506868
[10:34] <Walls7> Flannel: i just have windows defragmenter, so after i defragment it, how would i shrink it?
[10:34] <dromer> dhcp*
[10:34] <andyp__> whats the apt-get command to bittorrent
[10:34] <jherrera> andyp__ none
[10:34] <Deags> walls7 u should get through the defrag first seems to awlays encounter problems if udont defrag alot
[10:34] <Flannel> Walls7: you'll reboot back into the liveCD, and use something like gparted (or the partitioner in the installer) to shrink the windows partition, and then create a new linux partition
[10:34] <howlingmadhowie> bullgard4: what software will you be using? java, for example, always stores strings in utf-16 (16-bit characters)
[10:35] <andyp__> jheera:rr
[10:35] <jherrera> andyp__ apt-get (8)          - APT package handling utility - - command-line interface
[10:35] <DarkED> hi all, i need some help
[10:35] <Deags>  i have a ati radeon 9800 and wanting to get drivers for it am i out of luck?
[10:35] <Juhaz> bullgard4, there are quite a few of them... which is the problem. but if it's for email, utf-8 should be fine, most clients tend to understand messages in any encoding these days, as long as the headers are correct
[10:35] <DarkED> i'm running kubuntu 7.04 and i want to just go back to gnome
[10:35] <andyp__> jherrera: ktronnent
[10:35] <DarkED> is there any way to reinstall my system without actually needing the CD?
[10:36] <Flannel> DarkED: install ubuntu-desktop
[10:36] <jherrera> andyp__ ktorrent ?
[10:36] <Walls7> Flannel: ok, so how much would i need to shrink it, 10GB?
[10:36] <DarkED> Flannel: yeah but i mean i want to get rid of EVERYTHING... start from scratch
[10:36] <jaro> Geek_:  you mean by using the console ?
[10:36] <andyp__> yes its a torrent sofware for kde
[10:36] <Geek_> darkED: wubi, then transfer it over?
[10:36] <Flannel> DarkED: then later you can remove kubuntu, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[10:36] <Geek_> jaro: yes
[10:37] <Geek_> i think you need to psudo those comands too
[10:37] <Deags> walls7 if u can spare 20gig ull be happier sparing 20
[10:37] <Flannel> Walls7: 10GB would be plenty
[10:37] <Deags> least thats what i have found
[10:37] <sauvin> Depends on what kinds of junk you plan on downloading.
[10:37] <Deags> indeed
[10:37] <jaro> Geek_:  ifdown -a | ifup -a ?
[10:38] <Deags> but for a newer level people tends to be better to go with 20 haha
[10:38] <Geek_> jaro: i *think* you need to mention which interfaces specifically
[10:38] <Deags>  i have a ati radeon 9800 and wanting to get drivers for it am i out of luck?
[10:38] <Geek_> did it once, but i'm not on my ubuntu susyem tigjt now
[10:38] <linux_> hi ive just updated firefox on my ubuntu 7, im having problems with loading youtube it crashes everytime anyone else got this problem ???????????
[10:39] <linux_> Firefox/2.0.0.6
[10:39] <Sithe> HOW DUZ I UNINSTAHL TEH ATEE EYE DRIVUR?
[10:39] <sauvin> linux, using what flash plugin?
[10:39] <GothCloud> :O
[10:39] <linux_> adobe
[10:39] <GothCloud> Sithe: LOL
[10:39] <sauvin> ...?
[10:39] <dfewr> kucink
[10:39] <Sithe> GothCloud: =)
[10:39] <thunkt> maybe your web browser is allergic to crap
[10:39] <linux_> lol
[10:39] <Deags> lol do u know?
[10:39] <linux_> cud be lol
[10:39] <Geek_> *remover
[10:40] <Sithe> haha
[10:40] <sauvin> heh. I'm using 2.0.0.3 :(
[10:40] <Deags> sithe do u know about the driver?
[10:40] <jaro> Geek_:  but shouldnt it be the same interface ? oh no it shouldnt...
[10:40] <Deags> im too retarded to do it  :(
[10:40] <Sithe> Deags: Nice name. And what do you mean?
[10:40] <linux_> well i wud upgrade there seems to be somthing wrong with it, my mate is having the same problem
[10:40] <DarkED> Flannel: thanks! that page will do it
[10:40] <DarkED> one more question
[10:40] <Deags> the aye tee eye driver
[10:40] <Deags> lol
[10:40] <Geek_> jaro... no it shoukdn't
[10:40] <linux_> wudnt*
[10:40] <DarkED> in my gnome i dont have the standard panels of a stock install
[10:40] <Walls7> i have 107GB unused and 42GB is used for windows. shrinking the partion 10GB wouldnt do much right?
[10:40] <Geek_> couldn't
[10:40] <DarkED> for instance, my network manager is missing from the panel
[10:41] <DarkED> and a few others
[10:41] <DarkED> how can i get all this stuff back to 7.04 defaults?
[10:41] <lourdraj> hi anyone help me wrt ubuntu
[10:41] <Geek_> Walls7: no
[10:41] <sauvin> lourdraj, with what?
[10:41] <Sithe> Deags: Yes what about the "ayetee eye drivuhr" use korrect inglish plz
[10:41] <neumind> on freebsd can i make http, ftp, psybnc server and other like on ubuntu?
[10:41] <lourdraj> i need to upgrade from python2.4.3 to python2.4.4 on ubuntu
[10:41] <kahrytan> DarkED: Right Click on Applications and Edit Menus
[10:42] <Flannel> Walls7: right.
[10:42] <flash42> neumind: probably you can
[10:42] <Walls7> Flannel: thanks for the help!
[10:42] <twosouls82> neumind: you can
[10:42] <neumind> flash42 this is dificult then ubuntu?
[10:42] <Deags> sithe lmao i was mocking u btw  i have a ati radeon 9800 and i just wanna get it workin nicely so i can put beryl on it honestly...
[10:42] <KaKaRoTo-KS> hi, I can't boot into my ubuntu in graphical mode
[10:42] <flash42> neumind: no it is not
[10:42] <DarkED> kahrytan: no, not the menu, the actual panel... like, on a stock ubuntu 7.04 install i can look at the top right of the panel and there's a network monitor icon
[10:42] <flash42> at least in my opinion
[10:42] <KaKaRoTo-KS> the pc was working fine, it shut down because of the battery, and now, when I boot, I only get into console mode
[10:42] <twosouls82> neumind: FreeBSD takes more knowledge than Linux if you ask me
[10:43] <tokj> hello people o/
[10:43] <twosouls82> neumind: server setup is mostly the same
[10:43] <Sithe> deags: Beryl doesn't work on most ATI Cards.. Its either you dont have full screen resoulution and have beryl, or dont have beryl and have fullscreen resolution
[10:43] <flash42> FreeBSD is perfect for running daemons though
[10:43] <twosouls82> amen
[10:43] <kahrytan> DarkED: Is the Notification applet on the panel?
[10:43] <Deags> hmm
[10:43] <DarkED> kahrytan: yes
[10:43] <sauvin> I can't find python 2.4.4 in the repos :\
[10:43] <Deags> i was told that it works with the 9600 and 9800
[10:44] <KaKaRoTo-KS> I get an output like this one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/103148
[10:44] <Deags> so i thought i would see what was up
[10:44] <twosouls82> sauvin: why do you think you need it?
[10:44] <sauvin> lourdraj, why do you need to install a new version of python?
[10:44] <lourdraj> bcos when i tried to install zope 2.9.7, the system giving warning message to upgrade python to 2.4.4
[10:45] <sauvin> GAHR.
[10:45] <Sithe> Deags: go into terminal and type: beryl --replace
[10:45] <twosouls82> lourdraj: try to make it use python2.5, I guess this will work just fine
[10:45] <Sithe> deags: beryl --replace
[10:45] <kahrytan> DarkED: Let me know if you get it back
[10:45] <Sithe> deags: Do your borders go away?
[10:45] <linux_> ive re-installed adobe flash but still firefox just crashes anyone get any ideas ? (firefox 2.0.0.6)
[10:45] <DarkED> kahrytan: will do
[10:45] <Deags> one sec
[10:45] <sauvin> lourdraj, python has gotten to be a pretty important language for linux GUI stuff, among other things. The trouble with it is that backwards compatibility in python sometimes takes a beating. Upgrading is not without risk.
[10:46] <dgjones> !bot > dgjones
[10:46] <Shaye> How can I get a full list of all the running process and the IDS? "ps" ?
[10:46] <DarkED> kahrytan: i'm also gonna try deleting all my config directories under /home, that may do it
[10:46] <kahrytan> DarkED: I removed notification area and lost it too
[10:46] <Deags> wait
[10:46] <Deags> i dont have beryl eveninstalled
[10:46] <dissection> Shaye; ps aux
[10:46] <Deags> this isnt gonna work
[10:46] <Deags> i thought i needed the driver first
[10:46] <lourdraj> how to go about sauvin?
[10:46] <araizen> does anyone know what the easiest way to get elatex and/or pdfelatex in ubuntu is?
[10:47] <sauvin> I dont know. I'm running a (nearly) stock version of ubuntu feisty, and running python on IT reports its version as 2.5mumble.
[10:47] <Sithe> Deags: Install it
[10:47] <Sithe> deags: do you need help installing it?
[10:47] <Deags> k im assuming sudo apt-get install beryl-core
[10:47] <Flannel> araizen: Do you really need those particular latex packages?
[10:47] <Shaye> dissection thanks, btw, why when i am "root", and i try to type 'exit' it says still have stopped jobs?
[10:47] <Sithe> Deags: or you can go into symnaptic and do it
[10:48] <Sithe> deags: which is what I recommend.
[10:48] <dissection> Shaye: Sorry, I don't know. I'm still a newbie :)
[10:48] <Deags> kk
[10:48] <Shaye> dissection hehe :D me too
[10:48] <Deags> well lemme enable universe and crap lol just got this ubuntu installed
[10:48] <dissection> Shaye: Around 3 weeks old ;] 
[10:49] <Flannel> Shaye: type 'jobs' see what's still around.
[10:49] <araizen> Flannel: not if you have some other suggestion as to how i might be able to typeset bidi and mixed hebrew/latin text
[10:49] <Flannel> araizen: does tetex not do that?
[10:49] <sauvin> lourdraj, do this at an xterm or other terminal prompt: python -V
[10:49] <DarkED> oh it's so nice to have all that kde crap gone
[10:49] <araizen> it gives me problems with mixed text, and the people in #latex think that bidi isn't well supported in tex
[10:50] <Sithe> deags: alright
[10:50] <lourdraj> its giving Python 2.4.3
[10:50] <Sithe> HOW DUZ I UNINSTAHL TEH ATEE EYE DRIVUR?
[10:51] <Amon-san> hi. midnight commander has the option to select files and or directories and assign ownership via chown (very nice menu) but how do i do the same in bash?
[10:51] <sean071307> chmod in bash
[10:51] <sean071307> amon^^
[10:51] <sauvin> lourdraj, what version of linux are you running?
[10:51] <Sithe> Who here likes Anon?
[10:51] <Bogus8> Hmm, I lost my cube... how did that happen?
[10:51] <kahrytan> DarkED: I think I found the app you are looking for
[10:51] <Deags> sithe im used to xuubuntu wanna tell me how to get universe :(
[10:51] <Amon-san> i mean not execution bits but who actually owns the file
[10:51] <sean071307> Bogus, in beryl?
[10:52] <Amon-san> i can set users and groups
[10:52] <ubuntu__> hello... i was using ubuntu, and my pc halted... i tryed to reboot but it appears an error: the filesystem can be only accessed on read-only and acuses bad blocks... how i fix it? (i`m using live cd)
[10:52] <DarkED> kahrytan: really? do tell, please :)
[10:52] <Sithe> Deags: Im not familiar with universe. I dont think you need it.
[10:52] <vladuz976> how do I check the memory installed?
[10:52] <Bogus8> sean071307: ubuntu's desktop effects... not sure what's the real difference there
[10:52] <kahrytan> DarkED: gnome-netstatus?
[10:52] <lourdraj> sauvin: i have ubuntu dapper and the python is python2.4.3
[10:52] <Amon-san> sean071307: so i guess it's a different command
[10:52] <PaulEU> hello!
[10:52] <kahrytan> DarkED: oh wait. not the one
[10:52] <DarkED> kahrytan: odd, i dont have that package
[10:53] <|_ocke> meh, no help so bed
[10:53] <|_ocke> night
[10:53] <Sithe> Deags: Go to [System]  | [Administration]  | [Synaptic Package Manager] 
[10:53] <sean071307> bogus, it's the compiz settings
[10:53] <PaulEU> how can I check that in which package is /dir/file from ?
[10:53] <DarkED> how do i delete ALL gnome settings to start with a clean slate/
[10:53] <DarkED> ?
[10:53] <sauvin> yes, I got that. I'm running feisty; its default python version apparently is 2.5mumble. I'm seeing (now) references to python 2.4.4-2. Does dapper have the Synaptics package manager?
[10:53] <kahrytan> DarkED: lol You should.
[10:53] <Deags> o
[10:53] <Deags> i thought it was part of universe
[10:53] <Deags> my bad
[10:53] <Deags> k its installing
[10:53] <sean071307> and amon, are you trying to do the chmod as rood
[10:53] <sean071307> root*
[10:53] <Flannel> araizen: you could get the debian source package and compile it, then use dpkg, or compile (or whatever its shipped as) to /usr/local/
[10:54] <Amon-san> yes
[10:54] <araizen> what's the difference between mark for removal and mark for complete removal in synaptic?
 probably doing this will be sufficient: rm -r ~/.gnome
[10:54] <araizen> Flannel: okay, thanks, i was afraid of that
[10:54] <Bogus8> sean071307: it was there one minute and now it's gone... only thing I've been doing is I turned it effects off and on because an app went grayscale but wasn't locked and playing with "super key" and various keys to see what they did
[10:54] <sean071307> complete romoval gets rid of the config files araizen
[10:54] <PaulEU> is there exists tools for checking database of packages ??
[10:54] <Flannel> araizen: complete removal removes config files as well, it's the --purge flag in apt-get
[10:54] <kahrytan> DarkED: I cant find the original network
[10:54] <sean071307> bogus, did u try restarting Xserver?
[10:55] <kahrytan> DarkED: You could look through themes. They often change that icon used for it.
[10:55] <araizen> meaning i wouldn't even see it as an option anymore if i do complete removal?
[10:55] <PaulEU> because I don't know where is this folder /etc/apache/ from
[10:55] <Flannel> araizen: You could see if someone out there has packaged it for ubuntu.  Which could very well be the case.  getdeb is down at the moment, or I'd also tell you to check there
[10:55] <Bogus8> sean071307: nope, not yet... wasn't sure if I was missing something else more obvious
[10:55] <DarkED> hmm, seems like it's time to logout and relogin
[10:55] <DarkED> wish me luck
[10:55] <Flannel> PaulEU: `dpkg -S /etc/apache`
[10:55] <araizen> Flannel: okay, i'll check there at some point
[10:55] <Sithe> Deags: Done?
[10:55] <araizen> thanks
[10:55] <sean071307> i'd try just restarting Xserver
[10:55] <sean071307> to make it easier
[10:55] <Deags> nah ill yell at u ina min :P
[10:55] <triplc> Hi all
 you can check the files installed in synaptic, right click to a package -> properties -> files installed
[10:56] <amorphous_> I'm struggling with user accounts losing their internet connection.It happens intermitently and fairly frequently, but the admin account has no problems. can anyone offer any reason there may be for this? I'm a bit stumped.
[10:56] <Sithe> HOW DUZ I UNINSTAHL TEH AYTEE EYE DRIVUR?
[10:56] <PaulEU> Flannel: thx, how can I checks, dependences ?
[10:56] <triplc> What program to use to capture video from camcorder-via-s-video port?
[10:56] <sean071307> Sith lmao
[10:56] <sean071307> triplc i use camorama
[10:57] <Flannel> PaulEU: apt-cache show [package] 
[10:57] <Deags> sithe ok it looks like beryl is installed
[10:57] <triplc> sean071307, thanks
[10:57] <Sithe> deags: alright now type in terminal:
[10:57] <Flannel> PaulEU: of course, all of these things are available other places.  Synaptic, and also packages.ubuntu.com, which might be friendlier to chase down multiple packages and stuff
[10:57] <Sithe> deags: beryl --replace
[10:57] <KOJV> Just launched Ubuntu from the live CD. Does that limit me from doing stuff like enabling a proper graphics adapter driver or such_
[10:57] <sean071307> np triplc
[10:57] <Pierre|b> anyone know if its possible to play music from a ntfs disc?
[10:58] <sauvin> Pierre|b, I do it all the time.
[10:58] <dissection> Pierre|b: Yes, I'm doing it.
[10:58] <KOJV> Help! Has anyone seen my KEYB.COM__
[10:58] <sean071307> KOJV, no
[10:58] <PaulEU> Flannel: big thx for help :)
[10:58] <sean071307> i do it too Pierreb
[10:58] <KOJV> Okay sean, how do I go about to get a proper driver for my GF FX5200_
[10:58] <Pierre|b> how? :)
[10:58] <gnuskool> what would be the easiest way to get a bios update onto a linux only machine, all flash tools etc i can find are for win32
[10:58] <alzamon> Hei, I've got a problem with gcc in xubuntu. gcc can't find the standard library headers. I write "gcc test.c" and get back "test.c:1:18: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory". Am I missing some packages or am I just doing it wrong?
[10:58] <|_ocke> gnuskool, dosbox or boot disk
[10:58] <sean071307> KOJV, have you tried envy yet? makes it ubereasy
[10:58] <KOJV> gnuskool, get a flash program for a DOS floppy diskette.
[10:59] <KOJV> sean, no, where do I find envy?
[10:59] <Bogus8> sean071307: still no go :(
[10:59] <Bogus8> no cube
[10:59] <Bogus8> it does have the wobble
[10:59] <LiberCogito> KOJV: Google NVidia ENvy
[10:59] <sean071307> bogus, have u opened the settings?
[10:59] <KOJV> Thanks Liber.
[10:59] <dgjones> !envy | sean071307, KOJV
[10:59] <ubotu> sean071307, KOJV: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:59] <Bogus8> sean071307: where?
[10:59] <sean071307> to check to make sure it's enabled
[10:59] <LiberCogito> KOJV: its the second entry
[10:59] <Sithe> Deag: did that?
[10:59] <bullgard4> 
[10:59] <Sithe> deags: did that*
[10:59] <Bogus8> sean071307: in the desktop effects?  yes
[10:59] <gnuskool> l_ocke, i got hiren boot disk, ill fiddle with it a bit more
[11:00] <Sithe> GUYS YOU KNOW THERE IS A BERYL CHANNEL! #beryl
[11:00] <LiberCogito> KOJV: that's an old message.  i've used envy on 5 machines to no ill effect.
[11:00] <sean071307> Sithe, this isn't a beryl issue, it's compiz
[11:00] <sean071307> totally different =p
[11:00] <Sithe> Oh alright
[11:00] <LiberCogito> Technically Beryl is a fork of Compiz.
[11:00] <sean071307> desktop effects, as per Ubuntu are from compiz, not beryl
[11:00] <KOJV> LiberCogito, do I download the rdf?
[11:00] <gnuskool> _ocke, i got hiren boot disk, ill fiddle with it a bit more
[11:00] <sean071307> bethany, don't get tech on me
[11:00] <LiberCogito> And it no longer exists.
[11:00] <larsemil> anyone knows whats the problem with getdeb.net?
[11:00] <sean071307> i'll smack you
[11:01] <sean071307> lol
[11:01] <Sithe> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Alex_Wuori
[11:01] <sean071307> ilu sis
[11:01] <LiberCogito> KOJV: download the tarball.
[11:01] <LiberCogito> sean071307: *&^% you.
[11:01] <sean071307> <3
[11:01] <PaulEU> what's default desktop-effect after instalation ubuntu-7.04 ?
[11:01] <PaulEU> beryl or compiz ?
[11:01] <LiberCogito> PaulEU: Compiz
[11:01] <sean071307> compiz PaulEU
[11:01] <PaulEU> ok, thx
[11:01] <sean071307> it still hasn't been updated
[11:01] <Bogus8> looks up ;)
[11:01] <KOJV> LiberCogito, I can't find a download page for the tarball.
[11:02] <sean071307> lol
[11:02] <PaulEU> sean071307: compiz works super on my desktop
[11:02] <sean071307> ilu beth
[11:02] <Shaye> KOJV from quakenet? :D
[11:02] <triplc> sean071307, just apt-get install camorama... but when I run it, it say: cannot connect to /dev/video0. What should I do? I am using NEC E400, which has a S-Video port connecting to a JVC camcorder right now.
[11:02] <Sithe> Who here thinks scene girls are hot?
[11:02] <PaulEU> wha
[11:02] <sean071307> yay lan parties!!!
[11:02] <sean071307> Sithe, better not mean my sis
[11:02] <LiberCogito> KOJV: ill get you a link.  .
[11:02] <KOJV> Shaye, I
[11:02] <PaulEU> what's differences between compiz or compiz-fusion ?
[11:02] <KOJV> Shaye, I'm on many networks, yes.
[11:02] <LiberCogito> sean071307: don't think it counts if we're on different lans
[11:02] <sean071307> Paul, google is your friend
[11:02] <Sithe> sean071308: if your sister is scene then I do mean her.
[11:02] <sean071307> not just irc ;)
[11:02] <KOJV> Thank you LiberCogito.
[11:02] <sean071307> lmao, she's not scen
[11:02] <sean071307> e
[11:02] <sean071307> and she's old
[11:02] <sean071307> lmao
[11:02] <Sithe> grr
[11:03] <PaulEU> sean071307: ok, thx ;)
[11:03] <Sithe> lawl
[11:03] <Bogus8> sean071307: any other ideas?
[11:03] <sauvin> Too old for a 50 year old man? :)
[11:03] <KOJV> Can't I just download a proper driver from Nvidia?
[11:03] <sean071307> Bogus: try a restart
[11:03] <Sithe> sauvin: I am 15 lulz.
[11:03] <LiberCogito> sean071307: yeah.  22.  I'm ancient.
[11:03] <Sithe> sauvin: not 50
[11:03] <triplc> Hi all
[11:03] <Bogus8> sean071307: foolishness, this is linux ;)
[11:03] <lourdraj> sauvin: i have ubuntu dapper and the python is python2.4.3
[11:03] <sean071307> lulz? or lutz? lol
[11:03] <Sithe> lulz
[11:03] <Deags> well crap
[11:03] <Sithe> Welcome back Deags
[11:03] <sean071307> i know, but it's all i got =[
[11:03] <Sithe> Whats wrong?
[11:03] <Deags> white screen of death
[11:03] <lourdraj> sauvin: i need minimum of 2.4.4 to install zope
[11:04] <LiberCogito> KOJV: http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=64
[11:04] <Sithe> Mmhhmm
[11:04] <andyp_> how come bittrrent download rates are slower on unduntu then on windows seems strange
[11:04] <sauvin> lourdraj, do your package manager repos have 2.4.4 or 2.5?
[11:04] <Deags> that means its not gonna work?
[11:04] <sean071307> andyp, have you checked your configs
[11:04] <Sithe> Yup.
[11:04] <Deags> well wtf
[11:04] <sean071307> make sure it's hogging the same badnwidth
[11:04] <Deags> how good of vid card do u need for it?
[11:04] <LiberCogito> sauvin: I'm 22!
[11:04] <LiberCogito> sean071307: sudo go get me a mt.dew
[11:04] <Sithe> Deags: tbh I started using linux like yesterday.. Go into #beryl im not an expert
[11:04] <sean071307> sudo fuck you beth
[11:04] <Sithe> LOL!
[11:05] <sean071307> Sith, beryl is amazing <3
[11:05] <lourdraj> sauvin: ubuntu dapper says python2.4.3 is the latest version
[11:05] <sean071307> and i love XFCE btw
[11:05] <Deags> least ur honest
[11:05] <KOJV> Thank you LiberCogito.
[11:05] <sauvin> I thought this was supposed to be a family-friendly channel.
[11:05] <Deags> tyvm for ur help
[11:05] <sean071307> oops
[11:05] <sean071307> sry
[11:05] <Sithe> sean071307: FUCK YOU I CANT USE BERYL BECAUSE ATI SUCKS BIG DICK
[11:05] <Badzo> beryl works with 256 ddr ram:)
[11:05] <sauvin> lourdraj, is it an option to install feisty?
[11:05] <sean071307> i slipped
[11:05] <triplc> Hi all, What is the device name of the S-Video port? (is that /dev/video0 ??)
[11:05] <Badzo> and i have ati, beryl works perfect
[11:05] <WX9J> How can I play a music cd when I am not running the GUI ??
[11:05] <lourdraj> no: its a server
[11:05] <sean071307> sauvin, yes
[11:05] <sean071307> you can
[11:05] <larsemil> i dont get xgl running on ati big desktopi
[11:05] <Flannel> !language | Sithe
[11:05] <ubotu> Sithe: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:05] <LiberCogito> Sithe: Yep.  And you bought ATI.  So who really sucks?
[11:06] <Javid> There is a god damned orange fish swimming about on my screen, how do I kill it?
[11:06] <lourdraj> sauvin: its a server, to mant applications running
[11:06] <perpetual> How do I make gnome-screensaver span two monitors, instead of displaying two separate screensavers on each monitor? I use nvidia drivers with twinview.
[11:06] <Sithe> LiberCogito: I was using windows at the time.
[11:06] <sauvin> !@#$@%#
[11:06] <sean071307> Site, i use ati
[11:06] <sean071307> so don't blame ati
[11:06] <Sithe> sean. I have an X800.
[11:06] <sean071307> a comp is only as smart as the commands it's givin ;)
[11:06] <LiberCogito> Sithe: thats no excuse.
[11:06] <sean071307> hmm mine's x1400
[11:06] <sauvin> lourdraj, you CAN upgrade to python 2.4.4 or 2.5 or whatever is the latest out there BUT you are accepting an system-wide risk in doing so.
[11:06] <perpetual> Javid, try xkill
[11:06] <KOJV> Installing Envy gives me Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: module asisstance
[11:06] <Sithe> I will pay someone here $20 if they can get mine to work. No joke tell me your paypal right now
[11:06] <KOJV> assistant
[11:07] <sean071307> and sithe, stop bribing ppl
[11:07] <LiberCogito> KOJV: did you run all updates first?
[11:07] <lourdraj> sauvin, help me how to proceed?
[11:07] <KOJV> LiberCogito, no, where do I go about to do that?
[11:07] <Sithe> sean: i've tried everything, its the driver/card.. not me
[11:07] <sean071307> hmmmm... what are ur specs?
[11:07] <sauvin> lourdraj, BEAR IN MIND I DO NOT ACTUALLY RECOMMEND THIS, bop on over to python.org
[11:07] <Badzo> why picasa from google cant see my directory?
[11:07] <LiberCogito> KOJV: Erm, click on the orange thing that says updates available.
[11:07] <sean071307> and, how fresh of an install are you using?
[11:08] <Badzo> oh, it can see it but it cant add it to my library
[11:08] <Sithe> Intel P4 3.0GHZ, 3gb of ram, Ubuntu Fiest, installed yesterday, and an ATI Radeon X800 GTO
[11:08] <LiberCogito> KOJV: Or just type sudo apt get-update
[11:08] <perpetual> Sithe, ati card with fglrx?
[11:08] <Sithe> perpetual: yes
[11:08] <lourdraj> sauvin, let me try this
[11:08] <perpetual> Sithe, did you try ati's own installer yet?
[11:08] <Sithe> And for some damn reason the fglrx kernel is not in the xorg.0.log
[11:08] <Sithe> perpetual: I was told not too
[11:09] <sean071307> sithe, language plz
[11:09] <Sithe> sean: watch your language.
[11:09] <Sithe> You said the eff word a few times too
[11:09] <sean071307> sithe, what if you run fglrxinfo on JUST a normal session, not xgl
[11:09] <sean071307> just once ;)
[11:09] <KOJV> LiberCogito, no update icon here.
[11:09] <sean071307> sorry, learn to grep better
[11:09] <sean071307> lol
[11:09] <Sithe> sean
[11:09] <Sithe> hold on
[11:09] <sauvin> I, personally, do not give a [BEEP]  if you want to use that [HONK] ing kind of language, but it DOES sometimes [TWEET]  people right to [BAH-BOOM]  off.
[11:10] <perpetual> Sithe, I found the restricted modules package worse than useless.
[11:10] <LiberCogito> KOJV: Erm, you are using 7.04, correct?
[11:10] <Sithe> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:10] <Sithe> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:10] <Sithe> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[11:10] <Sithe> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[11:10] <Sithe> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[11:10] <KOJV> LiberCogito, when I type the sudo command in the terminal it says command not found.
[11:10] <Sithe> Thats what I get when I type fgltxinfo
[11:10] <KOJV> LiberCogito, yes.
[11:10] <LiberCogito> !paste | Sithe
[11:10] <ubotu> Sithe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:10] <Sithe> fglrxinfo*
[11:10] <perpetual> Sithe, and absolutely over-engineered
[11:10] <sean071307> chech your /etc/X11xorg.conf
[11:10] <sean071307> to make sure that you have the composite extension disabled
[11:10] <sean071307> check**
[11:10] <LiberCogito> KOJV: That makes no sense.
[11:10] <Sithe> set it to 0?
[11:10] <eternalswd> anyone know how to gnome default applications to xdg-open database?
[11:10] <KOJV> LiberCogito, I believe I must install the system on a hard drive to make it work, no?
[11:11] <sean071307> yepperz
[11:11] <LiberCogito> ....
[11:11] <LiberCogito> KOJV: Erm, things like "I'm running the LiveCD and it isn't installed' are things you want to tell people when asking for help.  :-p
[11:11] <KOJV> So, will Ubuntu, when installed and updated, be able to read my NTFS hard drive?
[11:11] <Sithe> Sean: where is this composite magig?
[11:11] <LiberCogito> KOJV: yes
[11:11] <sean071307> in the section extensions
[11:12] <KOJV> LiberCogito, I begun with asking if me running it Live would be a problem when updating the graphics drivers, and people said no.
[11:12] <Sithe> ya its at 0
[11:12] <LiberCogito> sean071307: I just had a flashback to work.
[11:12] <sean071307> did you do depmod -a and modprobe fglrx
[11:12] <sean071307> lmao
[11:12] <Javid> Is there a function to access a hard drive from a livecd?
[11:12] <sean071307> i love you sis
[11:12] <sean071307> just btw
[11:12] <sauvin> KOJV, ubuntu feisty mounted my NTFS partitions without my doing a damn thing.
[11:12] <KOJV> I'll prepare a hard drive for installing Ubuntu. See ya later.
[11:12] <perpetual> eternalswd, usually right click on icon and choose the application you want for it. Nautilus will then use the same app for files with the same extension. I think.
[11:12] <sean071307> btw, Site, do it as root, so sudo those cmnds
[11:12] <KOJV> sauvin: okay, sounds good.
[11:12] <Sithe> I did that sean.
[11:12] <Sithe> already
[11:13] <sean071307> did you run aticonfig --initial and aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv?
[11:13] <eternalswd> perpetual, this doesn't seem to apply it to xdg-open, only to gnome-open
[11:13] <kahrytan> darke
[11:13] <Sithe> Found fglrx primary device section
[11:13] <Sithe> Nothing to do, terminating.
[11:13] <Sithe> I got that
[11:14] <perpetual> eternalswd, oh. What are those?
[11:14] <Sithe> and
[11:14] <Sithe> Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[11:14] <Sithe> Warning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[11:14] <Sithe> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:14] <Sithe> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[11:14] <Sithe> aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.
[11:14] <sean071307> you ran as sudo, yes?
[11:14] <Sithe> No.
[11:14] <Sithe> lawl
[11:14] <sean071307> try that ;)
[11:14] <jherrera> how can I handle multiple internet domains in my PC?
[11:15] <sean071307> try howtoforge jerrera, they have a good guide
[11:15] <sean071307> jherrera**
[11:15] <sauvin> .oO(are "lol" and its variants becoming quasi-legitimate words in English now?)
[11:15] <sean071307> yes
[11:15] <Sithe> I sudo'd it and got
[11:15] <Sithe> Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[11:15] <Sithe> Warning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[11:15] <Sithe> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:15] <Sithe> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[11:15] <Javid> I hope to god not, I want to kill people that type that.
[11:15] <sean071307> ok, so now restart x w. ctrl+alt+bksp
[11:15] <sean071307> should work
[11:15] <sauvin> Sithe, all that means is you're going to have to restart X to see any effect.
[11:15] <eternalswd> perpetual, xdg-open is an application that allows running default applications for a given mimetype, just like gnome-open, but it is more universal
[11:15] <sean071307> yes, sauvin, but if it had been ran properly first, the output would be diff'
[11:16] <Sithe> Alright restarted X
[11:16] <sean071307> and?
[11:16] <Javid> Is there a function to access a hard drive from a livecd?
[11:16] <Sithe> want me to fglrxinfo?
[11:16] <LiberCogito> sauvin: I hope not.
[11:16] <sean071307> javid, try gparted?
[11:16] <sean071307> to view hd's
[11:17] <sean071307> sithe, plz and thank you
[11:17] <sauvin> LiberCogito, um, you hope not what...?
[11:17] <saylar> hey guys
[11:17] <sean071307> about the  "lol"
[11:17] <Javid> Dandy.
[11:17] <sean071307> hey saylar
[11:17] <Javid> Thanks.
[11:17] <Sithe> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:17] <Sithe> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[11:17] <Sithe> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X800 GTO
[11:17] <Sithe> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[11:17] <Sithe> =)
[11:17] <LiberCogito> sauvin: That the english language isn't that far gone.
[11:17] <sean071307> and time javid
[11:17] <sauvin> Ah.
[11:17] <sean071307> sithe, your good
[11:17] <DarkED> kahrytan, i got it back
[11:17] <sean071307> now try ;)
[11:17] <Sithe> So.. OpenGL is working?
[11:17] <sean071307> yes
[11:17] <sean071307> it won't in xgl though
[11:17] <sean071307> well, it will, but won't show up
[11:17] <Sithe> whats xgl?
[11:17] <kahrytan> DarkED: Hey.
[11:17] <sauvin> Oh, LiberCogito, I expect that English twenty years from now will be gibberish to us.
[11:18] <kahrytan> DarkED: Look for NetworkManager Applet
[11:18] <DarkED> kahrytan, i just deleted all .config files in my /home directory... everything
[11:18] <DarkED> kahrytan, no this is the one in the notification tray
[11:18] <DarkED> it's back now
[11:18] <sean071307> sithe, xgl is an x server ;)
[11:18] <sean071307> for 3d effects
[11:18] <kahrytan> DarkED: thats the one
[11:18] <kahrytan> DarkED: It's called NetworkManager Applet
[11:18] <Sithe> .....so does this mean that WoW still wont run?
[11:18] <sauvin> What's WoW?
[11:18] <Sithe> World of Warcraft
[11:18] <sean071307> lol, wow
[11:18] <sean071307> rofl
[11:18] <sean071307> LMAO
[11:19] <sean071307> beth, you take plz
[11:19] <Sithe> or CSS.
[11:19] <sean071307> CSS?
[11:19] <sean071307> css like the webdev lang?
[11:19] <Sithe> Counter-Strike: Source
[11:19] <sauvin> Sithe: do a "glxinfo | grep direct" without the quotes, please.
[11:19] <LiberCogito> Sithe: Are you using crossover, wine, or cedega?
[11:19] <Sithe> LiberCogito: Cedega
[11:20] <Sithe> sauvin: direct rendering: Yes
[11:20] <sean071307> omg =[
[11:20] <sean071307> boo @ win gamerz
[11:20] <sean071307> linux has better games
[11:20] <sean071307> but liber would be the girl to ask about wow and css i suppose
[11:20] <sauvin> then you have hardware acceleration.
[11:20] <amorphous_> any suggest why some user accounts on a machine may lose internet whilst others are ok?
[11:20] <kahrytan> !info network-manager-gnome | DarkED
[11:20] <ubotu> darked: network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.4-6ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 253 kB, installed size 1696 kB
[11:20] <LiberCogito> Sithe: Then you hopefully are actually paying them instead of pirating it, and since thats an offically supported game, you should go ask them. :)
[11:20] <Sithe> LiberCogito: I payed my $15, yes.
[11:20] <DaveD> does anyone here do stuff with midi?
[11:20] <sean071307> sauvin, i could have told you that from the driver, the fglrxinfo
[11:20] <LiberCogito> Sithe: Then you have support from them.  Go use it.
[11:21] <kahrytan> DarkED: Reinstall network-manager-gnome
[11:21] <sean071307> lol
[11:21] <sean071307> agreed liber
[11:21] <sean071307> ilu
[11:21] <Sithe> LiberCogito: No-one in their IRC tallks... ever.
[11:21] <DarkED> kahrytan, it's cool
[11:21] <Sithe> or forum for that matter
[11:21] <DarkED> i got it already dude
[11:21] <sean071307> they have a tech number ;)
[11:21] <DaveD> I'm having a bizarre problem with a midi interface working under edgy, but not feisty
[11:21] <DarkED> i said it came back :)
[11:21] <LiberCogito> Sithe: They don't offer more offical support?
[11:21] <kahrytan> DarkED: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[11:21] <sauvin> sean071307, welcome to linux. TIMTOWTDI. (There's More Than One Way To Do It)
[11:21] <Sithe> LiberCogito: guess not
[11:21] <Sithe> LiberCogito: ill check their website for a support hotline
[11:22] <sean071307> i know there is, sauvin, but i told him opengl is working, which means hardware accel is too =] 
[11:22] <Javid> I remember there being some command to rip a CD to an ISO directly, was that right?
[11:22] <sean071307> but thanks for the second way of doing it =] 
[11:22] <kahrytan> DarkED: Did you install it?
[11:22] <sean071307> javid, dd works for that, as one way
[11:22] <perpetual> eternalswd, interesting... I always found that basing which app to use on the extension alone too limiting. There is this wonderful program called "file" which surely could be used to figure out what app to use on a file.
[11:22] <LiberCogito> Sithe: www.cedega.com/support
[11:22] <sauvin> Javid, yes. I use dd.
[11:22] <Sithe> I like how Javid even CONSIDERS asking another question while my WoW still isn't working! HOW DARE YOU
[11:22] <DarkED> kahrytan, uh no i didnt have to... for the third time, it just came back :)
[11:22] <LiberCogito> sean071307: I want a shirt that says STFU and google it.
[11:23] <sauvin> Sithe, you're a monomaniac.
[11:23] <kahrytan> DarkED: cuz you add notification area back?
[11:23] <sean071307> i'll link you to a page javin, or if sauvin comes up w. one that works too ;) and yes, beth, google = our god
[11:23] <DarkED> kahrytan, yes
[11:23] <Javid> That's a long man page, I'll read it later. Thanks though.
[11:23] <Sithe> sauvin: Inglish plz?
[11:23] <kahrytan> DarkED: Ditto here.
[11:23] <DarkED> kahrytan, but i already had it before
[11:23] <DarkED> it just wasnt working for some reason
[11:23] <sauvin> That WAS English!
[11:23] <sean071307> lol, sithe, calm down much?
[11:23] <Sithe> sauvin: and it means?
[11:23] <Smirker_> hey.  is there a package to download the C header files (like stdio.h) so my compiler will work ;p
[11:23] <ayoeb> Hallo !
[11:23] <kahrytan> DarkED: It needs Notification area for icon
[11:24] <sean071307> hey sithe, m-w.com ;)
[11:24] <sauvin> It means you need to take a break and run off to www.dictionary.com and learn some more English.
[11:24] <sean071307> hey ayoeb
[11:24] <DarkED> kahrytan, yes, i know, i already HAD notification area
[11:24] <sauvin> Who was asking about ripping a CD?
[11:24] <perpetual> Sithe is having withdrawal symptoms?
[11:24] <Sithe> (no longer in technical use) a psychosis characterized by thoughts confined to one idea or group of ideas.
[11:24] <LiberCogito> perpetual: looks more like PMS.
[11:24] <Sithe> ...........................................................
[11:24] <kahrytan> DarkED: Im glad it works now
[11:24] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[11:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:24] <DarkED> kahrytan, me too
[11:25] <sean071307> Javid
[11:25] <sean071307> sauvin.
[11:25] <sean071307> lol, apparenlty perpetual ;)
[11:25] <dresden> hello can somebody help me, i want to make my current partition (im using right now) smaller (so i may make it free space)
[11:25] <Sithe> sauvin: So you think I have phychosis?
[11:25] <dresden> i went into gnome partition editor and i cannot make the current volume smaller because my OS is on it
[11:25] <dresden> somebody help?
[11:25] <LiberCogito> dresden: Go to add remove and type in partition
[11:25] <dresden> ok
[11:25] <sean071307> dresden, try gparted, it is amazing for that
[11:25] <kahrytan> dresden: Boot from cd.
[11:25] <sauvin> dd if=/dev/cdrom0 of=myfile.iso
[11:25] <dresden> ok tguys thank youso much
[11:25] <LiberCogito> dresden: download gnome partition editor, or gparted.
[11:26] <dresden> awesome i will do that thank you
[11:26] <Sithe> sauvin: Actually i could give a damn about WoW. Its the fact that i spend $15 on a product that doesn't work
[11:26] <sean071307> or qtparted too
[11:26] <dresden> i will try from CD if does not work
[11:26] <dresden> thank you all soo much
[11:26] <kahrytan> dresden: Can't change a mounted partition.
[11:26] <LiberCogito> Sithe: So complain to the people that can make it work.
[11:26] <sean071307> then sithe, try contacting the comp, not a free support
[11:26] <Javid> man what
[11:26] <dresden> yeah thats what my prob is
[11:26] <sauvin> You spent $15 on what, precisely?
[11:26] <sean071307> exactly liber
[11:26] <Sithe> sean071307 change please. its hard to type
[11:26] <tulga> I need install initscripts 2.86.ds1-38.1 on gutsy. where is deb?
[11:26] <kahrytan> dresden: So boot form Live CD. and make changes from there
[11:26] <LiberCogito> Sithe: Quit being such an AOL member.
[11:26] <sean071307> change what?
[11:26] <dresden> OK guess i have to thanks
[11:26] <icanic> hi there
[11:26] <dresden> i will do that!! :)
[11:26] <sauvin> Your nick. Sithe apparently doesn't believe in his tab key.
[11:27] <icanic> can someone help me with installation of envys driver
[11:27] <dresden> will Gparted know not to make current data  into free space??
[11:27] <perpetual> Question: How do I make gnome-screensaver span two monitors, instead of displaying two separate screensavers on each monitor? I use nvidia drivers with twinview.
[11:27] <sean071307> haha, nope
[11:27] <sean071307> i like mine
[11:27] <Sithe> sauvin: I dont git it...
[11:27] <LiberCogito> !gutsy | Tulga
[11:27] <ubotu> Tulga: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:27] <dresden> does gparted know only to make empty data free space right??
[11:27] <sean071307> perpetual, there's a good tut on that in the ubuntu forums
[11:27] <sean071307> yes dresden, which you can then make into a part
[11:27] <jengc0il> hello
[11:27] <Sithe> I IZ A NUB TO LINUX
[11:27] <dresden> awesome thnak you i will go now
[11:27] <dresden> thank you #ubuntu
[11:27] <icanic> I can't install envy nvidia driver
[11:27] <perpetual> sean071307, please point me the way, I've been searching the whole afternoon
[11:28] <robert_> has|does the latest version of OpenOffice.org (ever) made X take a permanent vacation for anybody?
[11:28] <sean071307> perpetual, i'll link you
[11:28] <icanic> someon help?
[11:28] <sauvin> And the $15 you're so sore about losing is an ubuntu livecd?
[11:28] <icanic> I'm new
[11:28] <Sithe> I kinda think I spice this IRC up a bit
[11:28] <rudy_1> good morning
[11:28] <sean071307> morning rudy
[11:28] <LiberCogito> sauvin: No, he paid to GET SUPPORT from transgaming.  But instead of using it, he's bitching here bceause he apparently has the intelligence of an AOL member.
[11:28] <sauvin> OooOo... a CONCEITED monomaniac!
[11:28] <ramy__> hi all. i have this error message "Could not find information on interface 'eth0:avahi' in /proc/net/dev"
[11:29] <sean071307> lmao i love you liber
[11:29] <Sithe> OMFG WOW WORKS
[11:29] <sean071307> hi ramy
[11:29] <rudy_1> I have installed the java run time machine jre1.5 and created the symbolic link into the mozilla/plugins directory
[11:29] <Leo1989> hi2all
[11:29] <sean071307> hey leo
[11:29] <sauvin> LiberCogito, congratulations. I didn't think it could be done. You've just insulted AOL membership.
[11:29] <sean071307> lmao
[11:29] <rudy_1> then when i start the browser it crashes systematically
[11:29] <sean071307> yaaaaaaay aol
[11:29] <rudy_1> anyone can help me pls?
[11:29] <sean071307> i think me and liber are the only one's who truely appreciate that comment though ;)
[11:29] <Leo1989> I have Ubuntu Fiesty. How to bring up VPN?
[11:30] <LiberCogito> sauvin: No, I really haven't.  I used to work AOL support.  Someone once called me because the caller ID on their multiuse printer wasn't working.
[11:30] <sean071307> rudy, try deleting the sym links and re-creating
[11:30] <icanic> someone
[11:30] <icanic> it's just 5 mins
[11:30] <sean071307> i got one about "my tv doesn't work"
[11:30] <sauvin> you'd have to have been on the Nets in '93 when AOL unleashed the floodgates from hell, I suppose.
[11:30] <sean071307> icanic, problem again?
[11:30] <icanic> Cant install envy drivers
[11:30] <XimDev> ubuntu tasksel question
[11:30] <LiberCogito> sauvin: I was 8 in 93.  :-p
[11:30] <icanic> some files are mising but dont know why
[11:30] <sauvin> LiberCogito, how many calls did you get about broken coffee cup holders?
[11:30] <XimDev> will tasksel install the latest packages?
[11:31] <robert_> LiberCogito, I was 10. :P
[11:31] <sean071307> Xim, it should
[11:31] <LiberCogito> sauvin: I never got that one!  But I got alot of random other non software related crap.
[11:31] <sean071307> lmao, sauvin was that you calling in ;)
[11:31] <Sithe> I would like to thank sauvin, sean071307, and perpetual for their help. Thankies. I made cupcakez anyone of yooh want some?
[11:31] <sean071307> i do Sithe!!!
[11:31] <LiberCogito> sauvin: Best call ever was what's my email address.  The woman could not find the period key.  She didn't know what a ? was either.
[11:32] <sauvin> I was... um... 35? AOL suddenly breaking into the usenet, IRC and everywhere else with their loud strident dumber-than-mules attitudes was nothing short of dismaying. Most of them were, I'm ashamed to say, Americans.
[11:32] <sean071307> lol i love you liber
[11:32] <sean071307> sauvin, i'm not american, sry ;)
[11:32] <LiberCogito> sauvin: Well, most our fellow americans are idiots.
[11:32] <vins>   
[11:32] <LiberCogito> sean071307: you are too.
[11:32] <mypapit> lol
[11:32] <sauvin> vins, moi non pas aussi :D
[11:32] <sean071307> nope, i'm a proud member of the socialst republic of america
[11:32] <sean071307> not american
[11:33] <sean071307> not at all.
[11:33] <mypapit> koi buke ore amerika
[11:33] <sean071307> haha
[11:33] <LiberCogito> sean071307:  You can't even spell socialist.
[11:33] <vins>  
[11:33] <vins>  ?
[11:33] <sauvin> You did WHAT kind of bukkake on America's WHAT!?
[11:33] <sean071307> socialist? i'm still kinda drunk
[11:33] <LiberCogito> !ru
[11:33] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:33] <sean071307> !en
[11:33] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:33] <sean071307> !fr lol
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <GothCloud> sauvin: AOL BROKE into usenet?
[11:33] <LiberCogito> sean071307: can we go smoke now?
[11:33] <Sithe> sauvin: what were those sudo commands you had me run again? Ima put them in a text document if it comes up again
[11:33] <sean071307> i agree
[11:33] <sean071307> brb pplz
[11:33] <Sithe> err or sean
[11:34] <sauvin> GothCloud, yea. I was there the very day it happened. I mean, they came in HORDES.
[11:34] <GothCloud> sauvin: What happened?
[11:34] <sauvin> Sithe, I didn't give you the sudo commands because I don't remember what they were.
[11:34] <icani1> sean?
[11:34] <Sithe> sauvin: I think it was sean
[11:34] <fqhuy> xin cho! c ngi vit nam no  y khng nh
[11:34] <sauvin> GothCloud, here's a visual: Hell's Angels crashing the party at Carnegie Hall.
[11:35] <icani1> can someone help me with the envy thing? please! /beg
[11:35] <sauvin> Envy? Isn't that some kind of automated install script?
[11:35] <icani1> yes
[11:36] <sauvin> Even if I could, I'd refuse to help you trash your system.
[11:36] <icani1> omg
[11:36] <icani1> the help me how not to trash it :-)
[11:36] <sauvin> Don't use envy.
[11:36] <icani1> *then
[11:36] <icani1> yea, but how to install the drivers manually
[11:37] <Geek_> !envy
[11:37] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:37] <Geek_> note what it says ;)
[11:37] <icani1> it never break-ed it
[11:38] <icani1> but now I can't install the drivers with it
[11:38] <icani1> it says that the files are missing
[11:38] <Sithe> sean!
[11:38] <icani1> but I would install it manualy if someone tell me how
[11:38] <sauvin> What are the drivers?
[11:39] <Sithe> SEANNN
[11:39] <rudy_1> my mozilla firefox stil crashes after installing the java real time machine
[11:39] <fqhuy> are there any way to make a "shortcut" for an executable file with a custom Icon
[11:39] <rudy_1> is it a known issue or is it something special forme?
[11:39] <icani1> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[11:40] <sauvin> Sithe, have a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[11:41] <sauvin> fghuy, yes, there is.
[11:41] <sauvin> fghuy, are you using KDE?
[11:41] <fqhuy> Gnome
[11:41] <icani1> sauvin?
[11:41] <sauvin> Mmkay, what I'm about to tell you may or may not fit you perfectly: where you want your icon to appear, RIGHT CLICK.
[11:42] <icani1> you asked me what the drivers are?
[11:42] <sauvin> you'll probably be presented with a number of options, including "New..."
[11:42] <sauvin> icani1, yes. What drivers are you trying to install?
[11:42] <icani1> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
[11:42] <RivaeAerya> Guys, i followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion guide to install compiz fusion but that broke all my apt-get, see here: http://rafb.net/p/jiiBpD49.html . Can you guys help me fix it?
[11:42] <sauvin> What the blue-streaked peeping fudge is a .run file!?
[11:43] <icani1> I have downloadet it from nvidia
[11:43] <Javid> I would bet you messed up /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:43] <icani1> it says driver
[11:43] <Javid> Google for a default one for your distro and replace it with that
[11:43] <fqhuy> sauvin: yes
[11:43] <Javid> RivaeAerya: See above
[11:43] <sauvin> It probably is, but I have NO damned idea how to unpackage it. have you tried the synaptics repos?
[11:43] <perpetual> sean071307, I'm searching the ubuntu forums. can I have that link you mentioned please?
[11:43] <icani1> nope
[11:44] <icani1> I'm new so
[11:44] <rudy_1> I think i hage installed already
[11:44] <rudy_1> this nvidia file
[11:44] <icani1> how
[11:44] <icani1> ?
[11:44] <rudy_1> have you read the intallation tips?
[11:44] <Javid> RivaeAerya, I followed the same guide and it worked fine, so you probably erred in some way.
[11:44] <sauvin> fghuy, so you can honk on "Link to application...", create the link and edit it for things like "start in directory", the name of the application itself, and et cetera.
[11:44] <icani1> it's only for suse
[11:44] <rudy_1> u have to change something in teh X config file
[11:44] <Javid> RivaeAerya: can you pastebin the entire contents of /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:44] <RivaeAerya> Javid: http://rafb.net/p/YMZAJr40.html
[11:45] <sauvin> icani1, try System->Synaptics Package Manager (your exact links may vary; I'm using KDE, not gnome)
[11:45] <fqhuy> sauvin: thanks
[11:45] <xconspirisist> hey. I am trying to get an external hdd working. It appears in /var/log/messages, just saying "found new high speed usb device", but how do I know what uuid/block dev has been assigned to it?
[11:45] <Javid> Huh. That appears in order. I'd still try finding a default one for Edgy
[11:46] <sauvin> xconspirisist, what operating system are you using?
[11:46] <xconspirisist> sauvin: Ubuntu 7.04.
[11:46] <sauvin> What kind of external hdd?
[11:46] <xconspirisist> It's just a USB Western Digital one...?
[11:47] <Javid> RivaeAerya: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[11:47] <icani1> sauvin, I can't select it there
[11:47] <Javid> Wait, that one's way not default. Ignore me.
[11:47] <sauvin> Mmkay, you probably don't even need to futz with device numbers and such like. If your USB HDD is plugged in, navigate to /media and see what's there.
[11:47] <RivaeAerya> Javid: Feisty here
[11:47] <Javid> Oh, hang on then.
[11:48] <sauvin> On my feisty, the two partitions on my usb hdd are "disk" and "disk-1" mountpoints.
[11:48] <inqui> hi all,  AUDIO: how to find which is in kernel:  OSS or ALSA .... and how to simulate OSS on ALSA  ?
[11:48] <xconspirisist> There are a couple of directories that may have been made (sdh1, sdi1), but they're empty, and mount, and fdisk -l do not list the drive.
[11:48] <sauvin> inqui, before anybody tries to answer that, why do you ask?
[11:49] <sauvin> xconspirisist, unplug the drive and plug it back in.
[11:49] <inqui> sauvin:  i want to run wine in better performance
[11:49] <Javid> RivaeAerya: http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=388738
[11:49] <xconspirisist> sauvin: Have done.
[11:49] <inqui> what is your mounting problem?
[11:49] <xconspirisist> inqui: I want to try and get an external hdd working.
[11:49] <sauvin> xconspirisist, did your dm pop up a window or two saying "new hardware found" or somesuch?
[11:50] <inqui> xconspirisist:  whats the matter?
[11:50] <sean071307> kk back gys
[11:50] <xconspirisist> I don't run an xserver on this box.
[11:50] <sauvin> ARGH.
[11:50] <xconspirisist> inqui: I want to know what uuid/block device it has been assigned.
[11:50] <inqui> lol
[11:50] <inqui> okay
[11:50] <inqui> just a moment
[11:50] <sauvin> Mmkay... what about lsusb?
[11:50] <inqui> got same problem yesterday
[11:51] <xconspirisist> lsub shows various Bus 00x, device 001, id 0000:0000, etc.
[11:51] <inqui> xconspirisist:  ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[11:51] <inqui> try thisone
[11:51] <xconspirisist> Yeah, that just lists all the uuids of the uuid's on my system?
[11:51] <Aye|> Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to BOOT with my nvidia geforce 6200, because it will only boot with my onboard card, but once X is loaded it will use my PCI graphics card.
[11:51] <sauvin> xconspirisist, do any of the lsusb lines contain the string "western"?
[11:51] <inqui> xcon try it
[11:51] <xconspirisist> sauvin: They do not.
[11:52] <xconspirisist> inqui: Yeah. lots of uuids.
[11:52] <sean071307> xconspirists, if i may ask, what's the problem again?
[11:52] <sauvin> I had this problem a few days ago, and for me, it was a bad cable.
[11:52] <sauvin> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1058:0901 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
[11:52] <xconspirisist> sean071307: I am trying to get an external hdd working. I want to know what uuid/block device linux has assigned to it.
[11:52] <sauvin> THAT is the line I get when I have GOOD cable.
[11:52] <inqui> xconspirisist:  so ... you dont know which is tthe one you want ?
[11:53] <xconspirisist> inqui: How the hell would I know? I've got over 8 hdd's on this system. :/
[11:53] <inqui> macke ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and then remove disc - do again ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/  and the one that is missing was ur external disc
[11:53] <sean071307> xconspirist do you know what device it is?
[11:53] <hershey> i need some help
[11:53] <sean071307> my usb hd, if not plugged in on install, does not recieve a uuid
[11:53] <xconspirisist> sean071307: Yeah, it's an external WD caddy stroke hard drive.
[11:53] <sean071307> hershey, what's up?
[11:53] <sauvin> hershey, I need some sleep. Hurry up and ask already!
[11:53] <xconspirisist> sean071307: Ah, that's interesting.
[11:53] <inqui> xconspirisist:  did you get my proposal?
[11:54] <sean071307> hang on, let me check something for you xconspirist, i'm plugging in my wd now
[11:54] <xconspirisist> inqui: Yes. Oh It's worth a try, brb, I'll go try turning it off & on again.
[11:54] <inqui> WD sucks- hard
[11:54] <sauvin> I would plug and unplug, but I'm using the drive atm.
[11:54] <xconspirisist> sean071307: Thanks.
[11:54] <hershey> i installed ubuntu server 7.04 and it start out in command list w/out graphic inerface
[11:54] <sauvin> I have three external USB drives, all WD, and none suck.
[11:54] <xconspirisist> inqui: WD does not suck. :/
[11:54] <inqui> so how to find out if the kernel uses ALSA or OSS ?
[11:54] <inqui> WD sucks
[11:55] <inqui> got a mybook
[11:55] <inqui>  from china
[11:55] <sean071307> inqui, wd does not suck ;)
[11:55] <inqui> everything produced in china sucks
[11:55] <inqui> ;D:
[11:55] <xconspirisist> inqui: Shut up. :( You don't know what you're on about.
[11:55] <rudy_1> my problem with firefox and java is solved: it was a link to the wrong java-compiler (ns7-gcc instead of ns7...)
[11:55] <sauvin> hershey, my understanding is that ubuntu server does not include GUI.
[11:55] <gordonjcp> inqui: any kernel released in the past five years at least uses ALSA
[11:55] <sean071307> Thailand**
[11:55] <hershey> how do i get the gui up, someone help
[11:55] <gordonjcp> inqui: OSS is dead
[11:55] <rudy_1> thanks everyone!
[11:55] <gordonjcp> inqui: OSS has been dead for about 10 years
[11:55] <inqui> gordonjcp:  mmm and how to activate OSS simulation?
[11:55] <sean071307> i use oss gordonjcp
[11:55] <xconspirisist> hershey: Did you install Ubuntu server?
[11:56] <sauvin> I think a few of the toys I have use OSS.
[11:56] <hershey> yes
[11:56] <xconspirisist> hershey: type `startx` at the pts.
[11:56] <xconspirisist> I'm not sure if ubuntu server ships with an xserver. :P
[11:56] <dezmin> it doesn't iirc
[11:56] <ameyer> it doesn't
[11:56] <sauvin> I've been told it doesn't.
[11:57] <dezmin> hershey, why did you install server?
[11:57] <xconspirisist> hershey: In that case, try `apt-get install xserver-xorg gdm ubuntu-desktop`
[11:57] <hershey> asks me to install xinit
[11:57] <andyp_> hi
[11:57] <dezmin> yea
[11:57] <ameyer> I've done a cli install, which is apparently a server install with a desktop kernel, and there is no X
[11:57] <inqui> xconspirisist:  Concerning the WD problem ...  there are a lot of people having trouble with  mybooks because they are not assembled well enough  defective contact ... that is avoidable ! anyway
[11:57] <andyp_> if i have a print out in a xterm shell how can i copy and paste or save to a file
[11:57] <Mik1> Hi I just stuffed my Ubuntu
[11:57] <xconspirisist> inqui: What are you talking about?!
[11:57] <Nikolas> hershey, just go install the normal desktop version of Ubuntu
[11:58] <Mik1> pulled some PCI things out
[11:58] <xconspirisist> sean071307: Any luck?
[11:58] <Mik1> and swapped with others
[11:58] <hershey> aite then, thnk for the help
[11:58] <Mik1> and X does not work
[11:58] <ameyer> and screen, and anything that might be remotely useful
[11:58] <sean071307> plugged in, checkin uuids now xconspi ;)
[11:58] <xconspirisist> sean071307: Cheers bud.
[11:58] <Mik1> im on live atm and need to beable to copy some files to drives that have NTFS
[11:58] <inqui> xconspirisist:  that the WD mybooks from china suck...
[11:58] <sean071307> nothing in fstab about the new usb device
[11:58] <faileas> hmm, if i needed to compile stuff, what package would i need?
[11:59] <xconspirisist> inqui: That's great.
[11:59] <sean071307> but i'm trying to see if i can assign a new uuid to it ;)
[11:59] <inqui> =D
[11:59] <Sithe> SEAN
[11:59] <sauvin> faileas, that depends on what you need to compile. The Linux world has languages I've never even HEARD of.
[11:59] <xconspirisist> sean071307: It would not appear in fstab?
[11:59] <sean071307> it should, if it's mounted, or attempted to mount at boot
[11:59] <Sithe> sean071307: Hey what were those Sudo commands you sold me to run? Im going to save them in a text document if I ever need to do it again
[11:59] <xconspirisist> ah, you rebooted, mmkay.
[11:59] <inqui> xconspirisist:  yeah just lost nearly 500gb backup - like many people
[11:59] <sean071307> site, for ati
[11:59] <sean071307> it's aticonfig --initial
[11:59] <Sithe> Yes
[11:59] <faileas> sauvin,: C apps i suppose? i want GCC/Make, and kernel sources, at least
[12:00] <sean071307> and aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[12:00] <sean071307> and depmod -a
[12:00] <sean071307> and modprobe fglrx
[12:00] <Sithe> does it matter what ordeR?
[12:00] <sauvin> faileas, do a gcc -dumpver at a command line.
[12:00] <sean071307> that order sithe
[12:00] <inqui> xconspirisist:  in between the two ' ls by uuid' and the removal you could sudo mount -a ...maybe this helps too
[12:00] <sean071307> and conspierist, i'm still searching for you
[12:01] <xconspirisist> cheers sean071307.
[12:01] <xconspirisist> inqui: Please stop talking to me.
[12:01] <sauvin> AaaAaaAAaaAaaagggHh!
[12:01] <xconspirisist> sauvin: hrh.
[12:01] <xconspirisist> *heh.
[12:01] <rob> wb
[12:01] <rob> :)
[12:01] <TehBotol> wewww
[12:01] <Sithe> ty sean
[12:01] <TehBotol> splitt
[12:02] <sauvin> I'd forgotten just how irritating netsplits can be; they'd not been a regular feature since there WAS only one IRC net.
[12:02] <faileas> sauvin: gcc: no input files
[12:02] <andyp_> how can i save from a xterm shell and then paste or copy to a file?
[12:02] <xconspirisist> sauvin: netsplits on freenode?
[12:02] <sean071307> np Sithe
[12:02] <sauvin> faileas, that means you have gcc.
[12:02] <sean071307> ati is a pain sometimes
[12:02] <sean071307> but it's amazing when it works
[12:02] <sauvin> I'm an idiot. What I WANTED you to do was gcc -dumpversion
[12:03] <sean071307> sauvin, don't call yourself an idiot, everyone makes mistakes ;)
[12:03] <toostrong_2851> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=2851
[12:03] <sauvin> sean071307, there's nothing "amazing" about the fact that 3d acceleration is not available for my ATI Radeon under Linux.
[12:03] <hershey> is ubuntu desktop 64 better than 32bit version?
[12:03] <sean071307> it is, but only on gutsy so far =[
[12:03] <xconspirisist> hershey: It is if your have a 64 bit proc :)
[12:03] <Catsceo> if you want flash its not
[12:03] <sean071307> hershey, i like 32 bit, even on a 64 proc
[12:04] <Aye|> Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to BOOT with my nvidia geforce 6200, because it will only boot with my onboard card, but once X is loaded it will use my PCI graphics card.
[12:04] <hershey> thanks
[12:04] <sauvin> 32 bit stuff is still a lot better supported.
[12:04] <sean071307> and it runs faster on 32 bit chipsets ;)
[12:04] <sean071307> 64**
[12:04] <sean071307> sry
[12:04] <pawan> hi
[12:04] <xconspirisist> Aye|: You need to look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Change the default device.
[12:04] <pawan> i ha a joystick
[12:04] <sean071307> hey pawan
[12:04] <hershey> good point
[12:04] <pawan> how to install it
[12:04] <inqui> sean071307:  fgl_glxgears 400fps x400 readon
[12:05] <mjk64> Hi! Does Dapper have a "googleearth-package" like Debian has?
[12:05] <pawan> !joystick
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <DDragon-SMAC> wouldent it use the debian package?
[12:05] <faileas> sauvin: 4.1.2
[12:05] <sean071307> mjk i believe it does
[12:05] <sean071307> i may be mistaken though
[12:05] <sean071307> check the repos
[12:06] <faileas> also.. how do i install restricted drivers from KDE?
[12:06] <andyp_> how can i copy and paste fron xterm
[12:06] <sauvin> faileas, you have a very recent version of gcc. You SHOULD be all set.
[12:06] <faileas> cool
[12:06] <xconspirisist> andyp_: Use gnome-terminal, that would be easier to copy & paste from.
[12:07] <xconspirisist> Although from xtern, select & right click.
[12:07] <andyp_> xconspirisist i am have fluxbox no gnome
[12:07] <sean071307> i agree w. xconspirists
[12:07] <sean071307> xconspirist**
[12:07] <hershey> anyone know of any good emulator for ubuntu feisty
[12:07] <sean071307> andyp, it still has a term ;)
[12:07] <xconspirisist> andyp_: type "gnome-terminal" within xterm then?
[12:08] <sean071307> hershey, virtualbox and qemu are amazing
[12:08] <sauvin> Erm.. what kind of "emulator"?
[12:08] <cbale> does anyone know h ow to upload photos onto sites such as photobucket?
[12:08] <xconspirisist> hershey: What sort of emulator?
[12:08] <yeniklasor> How can I install to openoffice another language support? I downloaded "OOo_2.2.1_LinuxIntel_langpack_generic_tr.tar.gz" Now how can I install it?
[12:08] <xconspirisist> cbale: Wrong room bud :(
[12:08] <sean071307> ^^ agreed
[12:08] <cbale> sorry ty anyway :)
[12:08] <xconspirisist> yeniklasor: Are you using ubuntu?
[12:08] <yeniklasor> yes
[12:08] <xconspirisist> Look in the repo's.
[12:08] <hershey> what will they emulate?
[12:09] <sean071307> there's a pkg for it
[12:09] <sauvin> yeniklasor, I think you'll find all that stuff in the synaptic package manage.r
[12:09] <xconspirisist> There are like a bajillion open office languages.
[12:09] <Shaye> I need your advice guys. I have a server at my home that is connected to a router, the dhcp ip is 192.168.0.102, but I can
[12:09] <sean071307> hershey, qemu will emulate mac, win 9x - vista (buggy)
[12:09] <sean071307> same w. virtualbox
[12:09] <sauvin> xconspirisist, more like two bajillion.
[12:09] <dresden> help!!! since i installed ubuntu, i can no longer load windows [2000] !! i get a blue screen and it sais "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE"!!!!!! i even deleted my windows and loaded an earlier backup ghost (cloned image) of my windows partition and it still does not run!!!
[12:09] <xconspirisist> hershey: Emulator is rather a generic term. There are many different types. What do you want to emulate?
[12:09] <clemyeats> does your ISP limit your data transfer? is 10GB a lot for home use??
[12:09] <xconspirisist> sauvin: heh.
[12:09] <hershey> which is better qemu or virtualbox?
[12:09] <Shaye> I need your advice guys. I have a server at my home that is connected to a router, the dhcp ip is 192.168.0.102, but I can't access the server with the external ip :/ {e.g connect to ssh, ftp, bnc, only with the 192.168.0.102 ip), any idea why?
[12:09] <AboSamoor__> hey all, i have a problem with /etc/network/interfaces i edited it without making a backup, what i can do now ?
[12:09] <sauvin> If he wants to emulate a Coleco Adam, qemu ain't gonna help.
[12:09] <dresden> help!!! since i installed ubuntu, i can no longer load windows [2000] !! i get a blue screen and it sais "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE"!!!!!! i even deleted my windows and loaded an earlier backup ghost (cloned image) of my windows partition and it still does not run!!!
[12:09] <clemyeats> hershey: virtualbox is more user-friendly IMHO
[12:09] <hershey> mac and xp
[12:09] <sean071307> virtualbox is gui, qemu is amazing but command based
[12:10] <xconspirisist> Stop copying & pasting your questions.
[12:10] <dresden> ok
[12:10] <gordonjcp> hershey: what are you trying to emulate?
[12:10] <xconspirisist> We'll get to you one at a time.
[12:10] <dresden> ok
[12:10] <sean071307> thank you
[12:10] <xconspirisist> dresden: What order did you install your operating systems, windows, then linux?
[12:10] <andyp_> xconspirisist: command not found gnome-terminal
[12:10] <hershey> mac os x
[12:10] <cakrABIrawa> how to save my config network from consol
[12:10] <sauvin> What's wrong with command-based?
[12:10] <sean071307> couldn't agree more xconspir
[12:10] <dresden> yes xconspirisist
[12:10] <xconspirisist> andyp_: Are you using ubuntu?
[12:10] <sean071307> command based isn't as User Friendly
[12:10] <xconspirisist> dresden: On the same disk?
[12:10] <andyp_> yes on fluxbox
[12:11] <dresden> yes , windows in NTFS and linux in a new one (that was a lot of free space)
[12:11] <HymnToLife> sean071307, define "User-FRiendly"
[12:11] <hershey> thanks i will try virtualbox then
[12:11] <sean071307> dresden, have you tried running your repair cd?
[12:11] <xconspirisist> andyp_: Select & right click to copy.
[12:11] <dresden> no i have not, do you think the windows2000 repair cd will work?? why is it broken??
[12:11] <hershey> how about game console emulator, any good ones for ubuntu?
[12:11] <xconspirisist> dresden: No, did you install them on separate hard disks?
[12:11] <dresden> on the same disk, 2 different partitions
[12:11] <xconspirisist> hershey: What sort of games console?
[12:11] <AboSamoor__> hey all, i have a problem with /etc/network/interfaces i edited it without making a backup, what i can do now ?
[12:11] <andyp_> and paste say into nano editor
[12:12] <sean071307> what type of emulator hershey?
[12:12] <HymnToLife> AboSamoor__, edit it again to make it right ?
[12:12] <xconspirisist> AboSamoor__: You can use conventional tools to repair it?
[12:12] <hershey> like neo geo
[12:12] <dresden> i installed linux in some free space on the same drive my windows is on, and now windows wont boot
[12:12] <pawan> how to open wine drive
[12:12] <sean071307> some win based game emulators run uner wine for ds etc
[12:12] <xconspirisist> andyp_: From nano, press the insert key.
[12:12] <inqui> how to stop the alsa daemon?
[12:12] <Javid> pawan: /home/user/.wine
[12:12] <sean071307> it's /home/USER/.wine
[12:12] <AboSamoor__>  xconspirisist like what, i'm new to ubuntu ?
[12:12] <sean071307> or ~/.wine
[12:12] <Javid> Also, #winehq
[12:12] <LiberCogito> hershey:  Tons.  Type emulator in the add/remove panel
[12:12] <xconspirisist> AboSamoor__: Look in the system menu.
[12:12] <Shaye> am i gonna get an answer or shoild i reask? :)
[12:12] <cakrABIrawa> how to
[12:12] <hershey> k cool, thanks again
[12:12] <Shaye> should*
[12:12] <xconspirisist> Shaye: reask.
[12:13] <Aye|> Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to BOOT with my nvidia geforce 6200, because it will only boot with my onboard card, but once X is loaded it will use my PCI graphics card.
[12:13] <sean071307> reask
[12:13] <hershey> they irc channel is so helpful
[12:13] <hershey> thanks guys
[12:13] <Shaye> I have a server at my home that is connected to a router, the dhcp ip is 192.168.0.102, but I can't access the server with the external ip :/ {e.g connect to ssh, ftp, bnc, only with the 192.168.0.102 ip), any idea why?
[12:13] <cakrABIrawa> how to save my network configutation ?
[12:13] <dresden> i dont understand why i should run my repair CD, i just loaded a full backup of my working windows partition, and i dont want my not-windows data screwed up
[12:13] <xconspirisist> hershey: You're welcome.
[12:13] <dresden> can somebody help me make my windows bootable again??
[12:13] <cakrABIrawa> cause every reboot my system that lose
[12:13] <DooMRunneR> hi
[12:13] <sean071307> shaye, do u know ur real ip?
[12:13] <andyp_> insert key?
[12:13] <xconspirisist> Shaye: You need to setup port forwarding?
[12:13] <xconspirisist> sean071307: Looks like we may have both got lost, any idea on the wd problem?
[12:13] <Shaye> sean071307 yeah lol
[12:13] <sean071307> ie if you go to aprelium.com/ip, it will show your real ip
[12:14] <dresden> i use linux for everything now but i wanted to play some video games and i cant because windows wont boot
[12:14] <xconspirisist> or whatismyip.com
[12:14] <Shaye> i got the real ip..
[12:14] <Walls7> ON the instillation, i want to make it dual boot, and i DO have free space, so i set 500mg as swap, and 10gb, but what type do i make that portion as?
[12:14] <yeniklasor> xconspirisist: This openoffice lang package has a spellchecker for my language. Synaptyc didn't install my lang's spell check package.
[12:14] <Shaye> the external
[12:14] <sean071307> xcon, try this link for your issue buddy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326871
[12:14] <Shaye> it's still not responding
[12:14] <xconspirisist> dresden: Then fix windows :)
[12:14] <dresden> i am so confused as to why my windows is broken??
[12:14] <sean071307> like conspirist said, port forwarding
[12:14] <sean071307> check w. your isp/router man for support
[12:14] <xconspirisist> yeniklasor: Is there some sort of error message?
[12:14] <xconspirisist> sean071307: Many thanks.
[12:14] <dresden> why the heck is my windows broken?? i told you i loaded a backup of a previously working windows, and it still wont boot
[12:14] <sean071307> best bet would be router man, as isps don't usually support that
[12:15] <sean071307> dresden, calm down plz
[12:15] <dresden> i think the presence of linux is some how messing up my boot
[12:15] <dresden> ok
[12:15] <faileas> dresden: XP or vista?
[12:15] <dresden> 2000
[12:15] <dresden> its just like XP
[12:15] <andyp_> its there a shell that has copy and paste tabs like a gui on it?
[12:15] <faileas> hmm
[12:15] <sean071307> dresden, linux won't mess up ur boot
[12:15] <xconspirisist> dresden: Are they installed on two separate hard disks?
[12:15] <faileas> yeah
[12:15] <yeniklasor> xconspirisist : Lang is installing but there is no spellcheck for Turkish.
[12:15] <hershey> ey dresden u bit torrent stuff?
[12:15] <dresden> no they are on the same disk
[12:15] <dresden> yeah i like bittorrent
[12:15] <sean071307> andyp, gnome-terminal, and the xfce-terminal do
[12:15] <sauvin> Dresden, when you boot the computer, are you presented with a grub menu?
[12:15] <faileas> no, but resizing NTFS sometimes does
[12:15] <yeniklasor> Any document to installing "OOo_2.2.1_LinuxIntel_langpack_generic_tr.tar.gz" ?
[12:15] <hershey> i got a good version of xp today
[12:15] <LiberCogito> sean071307: It will if its vista and you insatll grub to the MBR
[12:15] <xconspirisist> yeniklasor: I'm afraid I'm not sure what spelling engine open office uses.
[12:15] <dresden> i dont know what grub means, but it says launch linux or windows
[12:16] <xconspirisist> I thought it was a custom open office one, that would come with a turkish langauge pack.
[12:16] <hershey> it was like a performance version of xp some july edition
[12:16] <dresden> and if i choose windows, i get INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE
[12:16] <yeniklasor> ok
[12:16] <dresden> the menu i get was created by linux
[12:16] <hershey> try finding that on isohunt or something
[12:16] <sean071307> and xcon, i'm sorry, you're very welcome
[12:16] <xconspirisist> It's too hectic in here :(
[12:16] <Walls7> on the installation, i set 500mg and the type is 'swap'. now i made a new portion for unbutu, but what type to i set the portion as?
[12:16] <dresden> my windowsi s not broken hershey
[12:16] <dresden> it just cannot boot
[12:16] <andyp_> dresden: i tried bittorrent but its very slow tried to download a 100mb file
[12:16] <sean071307> agreed xcon
[12:16] <hershey> oh my bad
[12:16] <dresden> andyp you need to use port forwarding
[12:17] <dresden> go to portforward.com and it will help you andyp
[12:17] <dresden> andyp_ *
[12:17] <chrissturm> does ubuntu contain rtai extensions?
[12:17] <sean071307> for everyone's info, my aim is zgreatelitest, for a less chaotic, easier way for support
[12:17] <dresden> somebody help me???
[12:17] <dresden> i get the linux boot menu, and if i choose windows i get INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE
[12:17] <hershey> yeah that boot active inactive shtuff is tricky sometimes
[12:17] <andyp_> dresden: what is *
[12:17] <dresden> i was just correcting my typo
[12:18] <dresden> andyp_ go to portforward.com to make bittorrent work
[12:18] <sauvin> Almost sounds like you need to edit the grub table :\
[12:18] <andyp_> ok thanks
[12:18] <sean071307> i agree w. sauvin
[12:18] <dresden> i figured linux fixed it for me sauvin??
[12:18] <amorphous_> still no-one can suggest why user accounts are losing internet connection on a feisty box?
[12:18] <sauvin> Either that or your Windows partition is missing its boot loade.r
[12:18] <sean071307> try to reinstall grub, or manually edit it
[12:18] <dresden> linx created a broken grub table?
[12:18] <dresden> my windows is fine because its a previously working backup (clone image)
[12:18] <sean071307> amorphous, hardwire or wireless?
[12:18] <sauvin> you're assuming you had a good backup.
[12:18] <dresden> i did because ive used it many times
[12:18] <sean071307> haha, sauvin, couldn't say it better
[12:19] <EJ> \\'elcome ack jesuss
[12:19] <dresden> because windows gets spyware and crap so i have used my backup multiple times
[12:19] <dresden> it no longer works now that i have linux
[12:19] <sauvin> What version of Windows?
[12:19] <dresden> windows 2000 (its just like XP)
[12:19] <sean071307> sauvin it's 2k
[12:19] <dresden> win2k pro
[12:19] <sean071307> not just like xp dresden
[12:19] <Kasle> can anyone please tell me an EASY guide to install my bcm43xx? i've tried ndiswrapper and fwcutter... but both of it gives me an error message!
[12:19] <dresden> afaik it does every thing XP does...xp is prettier
[12:19] <sauvin> There ARE some pretty substantial differences between 2k and XP.
[12:19] <sean071307> 2k pro is stil the nt 4.0 kernel, xp is 5, vista 6 ;)
[12:20] <dresden> yeah but its identical
[12:20] <Aye|> Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to BOOT with my nvidia geforce 6200, because it will only boot with my onboard card, but once X is loaded it will use my PCI graphics card.
[12:20] <sauvin> Yup. They're all NT class operating systems.
[12:20] <dresden> ok maybe its not
[12:20] <dresden> any way
[12:20] <sauvin> Let me see if I can find out what my grub table says...
[12:20] <dresden> thanks
[12:20] <sean071307> all nt class, but not all the same fork of the nt 4.0 kernel ;)
[12:20] <pawan> how to open nes file
[12:20] <sauvin> !@#$@%#
[12:20] <sean071307> dresden, have you tried googleing this issue?
[12:20] <sauvin> How is grub edited manually?
[12:20] <Kasle>  tell me an EASY guide to install my bcm43xx? i've tried ndiswrapper and fwcutter... but both of it gives me an error message
[12:20] <dresden> yes but i cant find it
[12:21] <sean071307> kk, well i'm letting sauving help you w. this
[12:21] <LiberCogito> aye|: disable your onboard?
[12:21] <dresden> ok
[12:21] <Aye|> i have
[12:21] <dresden> thanks sean
[12:21] <Aye|> still wont boot it hangs while booting
[12:21] <sean071307> kasle, there is a guide for bcm43xx
[12:21] <sean071307> ask liber
[12:21] <LiberCogito> Kasle: Oh, I can!
[12:21] <beni> how can i count the lines of a textfile?
[12:21] <sean071307> thank you beth <3
[12:21] <dgjones> !bcm43xx
[12:21] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[12:21] <Kasle> LiberCogito: you do?
[12:21] <LiberCogito> Kasle: Open etc/networking/interfaces
[12:21] <sean071307> beni, you can use emacs, which does it
[12:21] <LiberCogito> Kasle: comment out everything except for lo
[12:21] <pawan> how to open nes ROM file
[12:21] <sean071307> and gedit, mousepad have that functionality as well
[12:21] <LiberCogito> Kasle: save, and reboot.
[12:22] <Kasle> dgjones: i ve tried that
[12:22] <LiberCogito> Kasle: its odd, but it works.
[12:22] <beni> sean071307: there was a handy command... foo -l or so
[12:22] <sean071307> brb guys!
[12:22] <Aye|> LiberCogito, if i set my pci card to init display first or whatever ubuntu will hang
[12:22] <mojo_monkey> can any one tell me if a linux box can perform the fuctions of an xrod packet shaping device
[12:22] <sauvin> dresden, examine the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:22] <beni> how can i count the lines of a textfile?
[12:22] <sean071307> hm, beni, i'll see what i can find, im me on zgreatelitest on aim, i'm helping someone else right now
[12:22] <LiberCogito> beni: Erm, go to the last line, look in the bottom left hand corner where it says LN
[12:22] <Catsceo> is the next version of Ubuntu (not Gusty, the next one) a LTS?
[12:22] <dresden> ok how do i do that sauvin
[12:22] <sauvin> Erm, nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[12:22] <dresden> ok
[12:22] <sean071307> mojo_monkey, what kind of functions?
[12:23] <sauvin> !pastebin
[12:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:23] <LiberCogito> !lts
[12:23] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:23] <dresden> ok what am i looking for sauvin
[12:23] <dresden> ok i will do that
[12:23] <gcostello> beni: cat textfile|wc -l
[12:23] <beni> ahhh okay thank you very much gcostello!
[12:23] <mojo_monkey> packet shaping, filtering Nat Transparent proxy
[12:23] <Dao_Of_Programmi> o.,o
[12:24] <Dao_Of_Programmi> isn fedora the best?
[12:24] <amorphous_> sean071307, hardwire
[12:24] <dresden> sauvin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33217/
[12:24] <Dao_Of_Programmi> why ubuntu has most ppl!
[12:24] <Catsceo> LiberCogito: that doesn't answer my question...
[12:24] <LiberCogito> Kasle: did it work?
[12:24] <sean071307> mojo, yes, it can
[12:24] <sauvin> dresden, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33218/
[12:24] <sean071307> amorphous, what?
[12:24] <sauvin> That's what mine says.
[12:24] <dresden> ok what do i do with that sauvin
[12:25] <mojo_monkey> sean071307 packet shaping, filtering Nat Transparent proxy
[12:25] <LiberCogito> Catsceo: what question?
[12:25] <Walls7> Which is better for me to create a partion on for ubuntu, "ext3" or "reiser"?
[12:25] <dresden> i dont understand, what do you recommend i do sauvin
[12:25] <amorphous_> the machine doesn't seem to lose the connection, sean071307 but the user accounts keep losing it intermittently.
[12:25] <sean071307> i recommend rieser
[12:25] <Catsceo> LiberCogito: is the next version of Ubuntu (not Gusty, the next one) a LTS?
[12:25] <sean071307> ah, sry
[12:25] <sauvin> Walls7, I've heard wobbly things about reiser. most people use ext3.
[12:25] <LiberCogito> Walls7: ext3
[12:25] <sean071307> resier**
[12:25] <Walls7> hmm
[12:25] <LiberCogito> Catsceo: No idea, google it.
[12:25] <sean071307> but if your using ext3 you can use selinux, not on reiser
[12:26] <Walls7> i'll stick with ext3
[12:26] <sean071307> Cat, yes, it SHOULD be lts
[12:26] <sean071307> =]  good call for a beginner
[12:26] <dresden> sauvin what do you recommend i do??
[12:26] <sauvin> dresden, the link I gave you shows you the relevent section to my menu.lst under /boot/grub. It's how grub knows to boot windows when I select it.
[12:26] <sauvin> Does it look like yours?
[12:26] <mojo_monkey> sean071307 im trying to convince my boss that it can but how
[12:26] <dresden> i dont know how do i find out
[12:26] <amorphous_> sean071307, sorry - been trying to sort it out and my timings poor... but users are losing internet connection on a box where the connection seems to be fairly stable for the admin accounts
[12:26] <sauvin> dresden, you CAN read the link I gave, yes?
[12:26] <amorphous_> *account
[12:26] <dresden> yes i can
[12:26] <sean071307> mojo, for sniffing, you can use ethereral, wireshark, etc, for shaping, there's countless tools
[12:26] <dresden> im new to linux stuff, let me try to figure it out ok sauvin
[12:26] <sauvin> Ok, and you can read your own /boot/grub/menu.lst, yes?
[12:27] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: is it happening at specific time intervals?
[12:27] <dresden> yes in terminal i think sauvin
[12:27] <sean071307> amorphous, have you pinged as the user itself?
[12:27] <amorphous_> LiberCogito, I dont think so... why? what you thinking?
[12:27] <sauvin> Good enough. Root around in your menu.lst and look for things that talk about Windows 2000
[12:27] <mojo_monkey> sean071307  cool
[12:27] <dresden> ok
[12:27] <sean071307> np mojo
[12:27] <mojo_monkey> ill get on it
[12:28] <amorphous_> sean071307, not sure I understand. I have tried to ping google etc as the user - but no joy. At the same time I CAN ping google from the admin account.
[12:28] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: file permission issues maybe?  I mean, the difference between the admin accounts and user accounts is privlidge, right?
[12:29] <sean071307> amorphous, have you checked the [system] ->network menu to make sure they match when in the user account
[12:29] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: I'd compare the /etc/network/interfaces of the admin user and the user.
[12:29] <amorphous_> LiberCogito, I thought that, but the setup is largely as installed, and I have no idea what permissions it could be :/ (too noob :(
[12:30] <dresden> sauvin i cant figure out how to "root around" in my menu.lst sorry
[12:30] <sean> lol he means browse it
[12:30] <mojo_monkey> amorphous_  what kind of net architecture are you deploying
[12:30] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: Compare the /etc/network/interfaces of the admin and the user.
[12:30] <sean> look through it
[12:30] <dresden> i dont know how
[12:30] <amorphous_> LiberCogito, they each have their own?
[12:30] <sauvin> use the arrow keys!
[12:30] <dresden> im pretty new to linux :(
[12:30] <dresden> ok
[12:30] <dresden> arrow keys just moves the black box
[12:30] <amorphous_> mojo - define net-architecture (sorry)
[12:30] <alsuren> can anyone tell me how to turn off that annoying volume control on-screen-display, so I can use xf86AudioRaiseVolume for something else?
[12:30] <Kaur> any ideas how to get frequency scaling to work on  Core duo 2300 with generic kernel?
[12:30] <sauvin> It doesn't move the text?
[12:30] <dresden> i typed in nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and i dont know what to do next
[12:30] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: oh, wait.  same PC?
[12:30] <dresden> OH IT DOES MOVE THE TEXT
[12:30] <mojo_monkey> your setup are you an ISP ??
[12:31] <dresden> NEVERMIND
[12:31] <dresden> il look for windows 2000 thanks
[12:31] <amorphous_> LiberCogito, yes
[12:31] <sauvin> .oO(new to "linux", my [BEEP] , I think dresden is new to COMPUTERS!)
[12:31] <dresden> lol
[12:31] <amorphous_> that's why it's so confusing to me
[12:31] <amorphous_> :/
[12:31] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: yeah, that really doesnt make sense.
[12:31] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: create a new user, see if you have the same issue.
[12:31] <mojo_monkey> amorphous_ how may servers r u running and how may clients
[12:32] <Badzo> hi dudes, i've just installed beryl, but now the cube has gone
[12:32] <mojo_monkey> amorphous_ basically what is your problem
[12:32] <dresden> what my problem was is i made the box bigger to see more of it, and that didnt work, i didnt know i had to use arrow keys
[12:32] <amorphous_> mojo_monkey, I am using an adsl connection with adsl (netgear) wireless router/modem. wireless users seem to have no probs.
[12:32] <sean> blah, chaod
[12:32] <sean> chaos**
[12:32] <sauvin> dresden, in a terminal window, that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
[12:32] <mojo_monkey> amorphous_ then whats the catch
[12:33] <sauvin> I've been using terminals for so damned long I've forgotten what all the "gotchas" might be for people used to a GUI.
[12:33] <dresden> sauvin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33219/
[12:33] <amorphous_> mojo_monkey, one machine - but the user accounts keep getting cut off from the internet. the admin account keeps it's connection
[12:33] <sauvin> I can't see a damn thing wrong with that, dresden.
[12:33] <dresden> damn
[12:34] <mojo_monkey> wow thats strange
[12:34] <dresden> when i press ENTER on it when i boot up, it cant proceed because i get a blue screen that sais INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE
[12:34] <sauvin> So, assumption next: your Windows boot loader is [HONK] , or at least all [CENSORED]  up.
[12:34] <amorphous_> LiberCogito, i have the same issue with all three users. I think at the same time, but it's hard to tell properly - it's intermittant.
[12:34] <sauvin> dresden, can you mount that partition?
[12:34] <dresden> guess i could why?
[12:34] <amorphous_> <is instilled with confidence
[12:34] <dresden> i can view it already in the GUI
[12:34] <sauvin> In terminal, cd into /media and see if there's an hda1 directory.
[12:35] <dresden> i can see all the files in it
[12:35] <dresden> ok
[12:35] <sauvin> You can see all your Windows files?
[12:35] <dresden> yes i can
[12:35] <sauvin> Grr.
[12:35] <dresden> does that mean some thing?\
[12:35] <sauvin> Mmkay, now I'm lost.
[12:35] <dresden> when i clcik computer i can choose my old windows volume and its got all my stuff in it
[12:35] <sauvin> What I know about MS operating systems is very old; it predates NT-class operating systems, so what I'm about to say might not be terribly applicable.
[12:36] <dresden> ok
[12:36] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: I'd nuke and remake the user profiles.  if you have no info to go on, its really the only option
[12:36] <hershey> i installed the desktop version but it gave me some errors at the end, is that normal?
[12:36] <sauvin> There's a 'boot loader' file that has to appear within the first umpteen sectors of the partition the OS is installed on; if it's not, the OS won't load.
[12:36] <dresden> i typed cd /media and it didnt say anything, is that what i shoudl of done?
[12:36] <dresden> ok sauvin what do i do
[12:36] <Kaalse> iv'e used fwcutter bcm43xx to install wireless network. but i get an error message ever though it's working. it says that it was an error with the treating of bcm43xx-fwcutter (error code 1) can anyone help?
[12:36] <sauvin> If you can see all your Windows files, it doesn't matter HOW you see them, they're THERE.
[12:36] <dresden> yeah they are
[12:36] <dresden> i just cant boot lol
[12:36] <amorphous_> LiberCogito, you mean to completely renew the whole user profiles?
[12:37] <dresden> i want to use windows to play video games when i have free time
[12:37] <sean> lol, dresden did you google the INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE issue?
[12:37] <sean> i found lots on how to fix it
[12:37] <LiberCogito>  amorphous_Yep
[12:37] <sauvin> That's what i'm trying to explain. I don't remember the name of the boot loader file(s); I think they'
[12:37] <dresden> yes but i got a lot of stuff not about linux
[12:37] <sean> it MIGHT not be linux
[12:37] <sauvin> they're going to have to be re-arranged.
[12:37] <sean> just try the stuff they have
[12:37] <dresden> i even typed in linux and that
[12:37] <LiberCogito> NTLOADER
[12:37] <spectre__> can you tell me if there is an utility to resize partition under ubuntu ? thanks
[12:37] <sean> spectre, gparted is good for resizing
[12:37] <dresden> ok sean il try that if sauvin cant help but sauvin is really smart
[12:37] <deathblooms> open a terminal and cd into that screenlets-0.0.8 directory. Once in it run this command:?
[12:37] <spectre__> thanks sean
[12:37] <LiberCogito> sauvin: NTLOADER, unless its vista or below 2k pro
[12:37] <sean> np guys
[12:37] <sauvin> LiberCogito, that sounds familiar. dresden, can you see NTLOADER on your Windows partition's root directory?
[12:38] <dresden> ok let me look 1 second
[12:38] <deathblooms> need help trying to install screenlets?
[12:38] <faileas> erm
[12:38] <dresden> no i have a ntldr
[12:38] <faileas> its NTLDR
[12:38] <sauvin> Actually, I think NTLOADER was also true of NT 3.5...
[12:38] <dresden> "ntldr"
[12:38] <sean> deathblooms, ubuntuguide
[12:38] <dresden> its lowercase "ntldr" sauvin
[12:38] <LiberCogito> meh, my bad.
[12:38] <LiberCogito> i was close.
[12:38] <sean> lol
[12:38] <sean> ilu liber <3
[12:39] <hershey> ok it is starting up fine, thats good
[12:39] <amorphous_> LiberCogito, pants! thanks though. At least it's not just me that can't understand it...
[12:39] <sauvin> ntldr and ntdetect.com look suspicious...
[12:39] <sean> suspicious how?
[12:39] <dresden> huh?
[12:39] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: 've forgotten muchof what I used to know of windows.
[12:39] <sean> me too liber
[12:39] <sean> me too
[12:39] <Kaalse> iv'e used fwcutter bcm43xx to install wireless network. but i get an error message ever though it's working. it says that it was an error with the treating of bcm43xx-fwcutter (error code 1) can anyone help?
[12:39] <sauvin> Do you suppose those files, or files referenced BY them, contain information about the disk geometry and/or topology on which they were INSTALLED?
[12:39] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: happily, I might add.
[12:39] <PaulEU> hello!
[12:39] <sean> hey paul
[12:39] <amorphous_> LiberCogito, I don't do windows
[12:39] <dresden> sauvin are you asking me
[12:39] <deathblooms> sean, i have read the guide
[12:40] <dresden> sauvin you should know im not as smart as you are about these things
[12:40] <PaulEU> What's difference between packages: mozilla-thunderbird-locale-pl and thunderbird-locale-pl ?
[12:40] <deathblooms> sean, like a 100 times
[12:40] <sn> can any 1 help i am using gnomebaker  to burn cds  but it does not burn i get a error saying it did not burn
[12:40] <sean> sauvin, those files are responsible for loading the nt kernel
[12:40] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: I've barely been using linux for a year.  Sean bullied me into it.
[12:40] <sauvin> dresden, I am obviously not as smart as you think I am.
[12:40] <sean> lol, ok deathblooms, how can i help?
[12:40] <PaulEU> its strange :/ I don't know which can I select
[12:40] <dresden> lol sauvin is pretty smart
[12:40] <sean> Paul,
[12:40] <dresden> smart people never say they are smart only dumb ones do!!
[12:40] <sean> one is a transition package
[12:40] <sean> it will automatically install the other, no worries
[12:40] <deathblooms> sean, in the tutorial it shows a easy way to install it http://thelinuxmovement.blogspot.com/2007/07/install-screenlets-008.html
[12:41] <LiberCogito> i r teh smartz.
[12:41] <amorphous_> LiberCogito, u seem pretty good at it though. I been using linux for years, but still rank amature
[12:41] <sauvin> heh, if I were so damn smart, you'd be back in Windows already.
[12:41] <deathblooms> sean, but i dont understand the open a terminal and cd into that screenlets-0.0.8 directory. Once in it run this command:
[12:41] <amorphous_> < defines the word 'user'
[12:41] <dresden> sauvin i would bet from my very very very limited knowledge, that my windows was too old and unpopular and linux, when it made my boot device, made it for XP or something and not 2000 pro
[12:41] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: I can fix things, but often have no idea HOW I fixed them, or why it worked.  :)
[12:41] <dresden> but thats my idea
[12:41] <sn> can any 1 help plz
[12:41] <icanic> how to install beryl?
[12:41] <sean> deathblooms, which part don't you get, opening a term or the cd to dir
[12:41] <dresden> i mean my boot menu sorry
[12:41] <sauvin> dresden, linux grub can boot DOS partitions.
[12:41] <sauvin> OLD ones.
[12:41] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: My real super power is l337 google skills :)
[12:42] <dresden> well maybe im wrong hehehe
[12:42] <dgjones> !beryl | icanic
[12:42] <ubotu> icanic: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:42] <Aye|> whats the command to create a file from terminal?
[12:42] <deathblooms> sean, yes i know the terminal but the cd part?
[12:42] <sean> sn, what type of error?
[12:42] <dresden> i love beryl!!!
[12:42] <PaulEU> icanic: use compiz default in system
[12:42] <icanic> !beryl
[12:42] <sauvin> I'm too tired to make sense out of all this right now :(
[12:42] <dresden> im going to use linux for every thing, i just want to load win2kpro for games
[12:42] <dresden> and i have a allready updated configured win2kpro im trying to boot
[12:42] <Aye|> whats the command to create a file from the terminal?
[12:42] <sauvin> Believe me, I understand that.
[12:43] <dresden> thanks
[12:43] <sean> deathblooms, cd to probably ~/ or ~/Desktop
[12:43] <sauvin> Tell me, in your GUI address bar, what does it give for file location when you see ntldr?
[12:43] <Alloosh> hi all, where is wine folder? just installed some programs, but cant find the folder
[12:43] <sean> that should hold the file you need
[12:43] <dresden> ok let me look sauvin 1 second
[12:43] <sean> alloosh it's ~/.wine
[12:43] <LiberCogito> Aye|: http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[12:43] <deathblooms> sean, the folder is on my desktop
[12:43] <Aye|> ty
[12:43] <dresden> sauvin it sais "/media/hda1"
[12:43] <sn> ok mate wait a min
[12:43] <deathblooms> sean, so im not shure what command i use in terminal
[12:43] <Alloosh> sean, where?
[12:43] <dresden> but its actually my C drive
[12:43] <mojo_monkey> i upgraded my ubuntu from breezy to dapper to edgy and it wiped out my openoffice suite
[12:43] <sean> cd ~/Desktop
[12:44] <sean> alloosh, type ~/.wine in the address bar of nautilus
[12:44] <hershey> well good nite peeps
[12:44] <dresden> goodnght hershey
[12:44] <amorphous_> LiberCogito, Aahhh.. a skill indeed...
[12:44] <deathblooms> sean, cd ~/Desktop sudo python setup.py install
[12:44] <deathblooms> sean, like that
[12:44] <sauvin> /dev/hda1, C drive, what the hell, it's all the same.
[12:44] <mojo_monkey> i cant seem to install another suite of openoffice cause it keeps giving me errors
[12:45] <Aye|> urr
[12:45] <dresden> ok
[12:45] <Aye|> LiberCogito, , doesnt tell me how to make a file
[12:45] <sauvin> I can't see why it's not loading!
[12:45] <sean> er, no, try cd ~/Desktop/screenlets[tab]  (that's the tab key)
[12:45] <dresden> me neither sauvin !!
[12:45] <LiberCogito> amorphous_: Harnessing google can save you monies.  I found all my college textbooks as ebooks free
[12:45] <dresden> cogito that is such an awesome idea im going to try that from now on
[12:45] <sauvin> I have a really stupid question to ask... is your windows partition marked ACTIVE in the partition record?
[12:45] <dresden> where can i find the partition record
[12:45] <dresden> sauvin
[12:46] <sauvin> Moment...
[12:46] <dresden> ok
[12:46] <sean> aye, what file are you trying to make?
[12:46] <LiberCogito> Aye|:
[12:46] <mojo_monkey> can 2 Linux distributions coexist on one machine i.e on different partitions
[12:46] <sean> deathblooms type in cd "~/Desktop/screenlets[tab] " (that's the tab key)
[12:46] <Aye|> Yes?
[12:46] <sauvin> dresden, do a sudo gparted
[12:46] <sauvin> CHANGE NOTHING.
[12:46] <dresden> ok
[12:47] <Aye|> LiberCogito, ?
[12:47] <yeniklasor> ,
[12:47] <yeniklasor> 
[12:47] <sean> Aye|, what file are you trying to make
[12:47] <dresden> now what dresden
[12:47] <dresden> i mean sauvin !!
[12:47] <deathblooms> sean, Desktop/screenlets-0.0.9$ sudo python setup.py install
[12:47] <Aye|> a file in the etc folder
[12:47] <Aye|> but i cant create it with a text editor
[12:47] <deathblooms> sean, no such file dir
[12:47] <Aye|> cause im not root
[12:47] <Boobek> hi
[12:47] <dgjones> mojo_monkey, yes, you can have as many distro's on a computer as you've got disk space for
[12:47] <sauvin> Look at your /dev/hda1 line, to the right, under the 'flags' column. is it marked "boot"?
[12:47] <Aye|> so i wanted to use sudo from the command line
[12:47] <dresden> ok let me look sauvin
[12:47] <sean> cd ~/Desktop/screenlets[tab] [enter] 
[12:47] <dresden> yes it sais "boot" sauvin
[12:47] <sauvin> @#$!@%#@
[12:47] <dresden> its the only one that says "boot"
[12:48] <dresden> my linux ones dont even say it
[12:48] <sean> Aye|, try sudo gedit /etc/filetocreate
[12:48] <sauvin> Same here. grub doesn't care.
[12:48] <dresden> ok
[12:48] <Aye|> okay
[12:48] <deathblooms> sean, ok i got this deathblooms237@deathblooms237:~/Desktop/screenlets-0.0.9$
[12:48] <sean> ok, now run your command
[12:48] <sauvin> OK, quit gparted. SAVE NO CHANGES.
[12:48] <sean> deathblooms, now run the command you need to run
[12:48] <dresden> ok
[12:48] <Aye|> sean,  ty
[12:48] <cainus_> hey all... I just installed kubuntu and I seem to be having keyboard troubles... I keep getting `` instead of forward slashes, etc... anyone know the remedy?
[12:48] <sean> Aye|, np
[12:48] <sauvin> I'm mystified.
[12:48] <AboSamoor_1> can anyone help me in reconfiguring my ethernet and /etc/network/intefaces
[12:48] <mojo_monkey> i had a previous installation of oracle enterprise Linux on one partition  then i installed ubuntu on the other but know i cant access the oracle distro
[12:48] <AboSamoor_1> ?
[12:49] <sean> cainus_, try to change your keyboard layout in settings
[12:49] <sauvin> dresden, would it be an option to wipe the HD clean, install Windows, get it running and bootable and then re-install ubuntu?
[12:49] <sauvin> I can't figure out what's going on :(
[12:49] <sean> AboSamoor_1, just clear it out, and open the network settings dialog
[12:49] <deathblooms> sean, which is sudo python setup.py install. and when i do that it says no such file or direc
[12:49] <sean> it will autoconfig
[12:49] <Kaslegard> ive got a problem. every time i try to install ANYTHING a error message occupears. it says that it was an error threating bcm43xx-fwcutter error code (1). can anyone help?
[12:49] <dresden> sauvin this is a fresh copy of ubuntu, what you describe is like...what i just did a few days ago
[12:49] <sean> deathblooms, hm, h.o. a sec?
[12:50] <deathblooms> sean,k
[12:50] <mojo_monkey> AboSamoor_1 what happend to your net conf
[12:50] <sauvin> When you restore your windows from the image, does it boot?
[12:50] <dresden> i installed windows, than ubuntu, than windows wont boot, so i installed windows again, still wont boot...
[12:50] <dresden> no
[12:50] <dresden> if i do what you say i will get the same problem i think
[12:50] <sauvin> No, I mean, if you wipe the drive clean and then re-install windows, does it boot?
[12:50] <cainus_> sean: it set to US English, generic 104-key though
[12:50] <AboSamoor_1> sean where is the  network settings dialog ? is there any way to do that by terminal ?
[12:50] <dresden> sauvin the whole drive??/
[12:50] <sauvin> yup.
[12:50] <dresden> but i cant because
[12:50] <dresden> this OS is on it
[12:51] <mojo_monkey> dgjones i had a previous installation of oracle enterprise Linux on one partition  then i installed ubuntu on the other but know i cant access the oracle distro
[12:51] <dresden> and yes it would work
[12:51] <dresden> i have in the past, before using linux, wiped the drive clean when i install my backup image and that works FINE
[12:51] <sean> AboSamoor_1, you can open the network settings from [gnome menu] ->[settings] ->[admin.] ->[network] 
[12:51] <dresden> but now that i have linux my HDD is split in half
[12:51] <sauvin> The backup image, does it assume you have the entire drive devoted to it?
[12:51] <dresden> yes but im using norton ghost and its designed to let me install to a partition because my image is small
[12:52] <sauvin> I'm out of ideas.
[12:52] <dresden> but that could be the problem i guess because this is the first time ive installed to a smalelr partition
[12:52] <K-4U> how do i get more desktops?
[12:52] <dgjones> mojo_monkey, i'm not sure how to help, but do you mean you can't boot the oracle installation, or just that the oracle drives aren't being mounted so you can browse to them?
[12:52] <dresden> norton ghost sais i can do that but maybe they lie to me
[12:52] <sauvin> that's what I'm thinking but can't be sure.
[12:52] <AboSamoor_1> sean , i can't see that. i make an error by installing xubuntu-system-tools
[12:52] <dresden> i KNOW if i wiped the whole HDD my windows will work, but then i wont have linux lol
[12:52] <DBlue> Is there a way to make grub who comes with Ubuntu, to look like grub on Suse 8.01, with background and white highlight?
[12:52] <sean> ah, are you using gnome or xfce?
[12:52] <sean> AboSamoor_1, are you using gnome or xfce?
[12:52] <dresden> sauvin if i wiped my HDD clean windows will work, but then i wont have ubuntu
[12:53] <AboSamoor_1> sean, gnome
[12:53] <neumind> hello, who can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?
[12:53] <sean> it SHOULD still be there =\
[12:53] <sauvin> yes, but you could then use partition magic or something to shrink the windows partition, get THAT working, make a NEW IMAGE and then install linux.
[12:53] <cainus_> sean: heh that solved it anyway... weird.... alright thanks :)
[12:53] <LiberCogito> dresden: So you're trying to load windows onto a drive that windows thinks is size X, but is actually size Y and you're suprised that this is an issue?  Erm... duh?
[12:53] <dresden> I DID THAT SAUVIN THATS HOW IM HERE LOL
[12:53] <sean> np cainus_
[12:53] <sauvin> Grah.
[12:53] <dresden> NOOO you all misunderstand...
[12:53] <mojo_monkey> dgjones the oracle will start booting but it keeps giving error messages about "touch" cant get a lock or something
[12:53] <dresden> cogito that is right BUT
[12:53] <K-4U> how do i get more desktops? i now only have 2...
[12:53] <dresden> it didnt work before i loaded the clone
[12:53] <neumind> who can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?
[12:54] <dresden> i had windows OK, then i shrunk NTFS and loaded linux on it, and from the linxu boot men i cannot load windows again...i thought that was normal
[12:54] <mojo_monkey> dgjones ill have to reboot to get you the exact boot message
[12:54] <LiberCogito> dresden: how the hell could loading the clone not work before you loaded the clone?
[12:54] <dresden> i figured every thing i did so far was normal
[12:54] <dresden> noo what i mean is i only recently tried the clone
[12:54] <sean> dresden, you do know ntfs support on linux is still somewhat, er "trivial" to say the least
[12:54] <DBlue> K-4U, you right click on desktops, prefferences and write 4
[12:54] <sauvin> I can't see why it would matter, but I gave up trying to figure out MS crap when I was first confronted with bazillions of config files under Windows 9x and decided that my days for being a computer expert were DONE.
[12:54] <dresden> i had a WORKING windows, installed linux, it wouldnt work, so i loaded the clone, and the clone doesnt work either
[12:54] <LiberCogito> dresden: Did you defrag windows a bajillion times first?
[12:54] <K-4U> ty dblue!
[12:54] <dresden> noo sean i srunk NTFS so i can make a linux partition
[12:55] <DBlue> what is ty
[12:55] <dresden> no i didnt cogito, i used paragon partition its smart
[12:55] <K-4U> dblue: Thank You;)
[12:55] <sean> yes, and dresden, what did u use to resize?
[12:55] <dresden> paragon partition
[12:55] <sauvin> There's a "smart program" for windows?
[12:55] <dresden> but my windows should be defragged
[12:55] <dresden> yea paragon is good
[12:55] <sean> it's smart, but it probably left files on the old part of the partion dresden
[12:55] <sean> lol
[12:55] <LiberCogito> dresden: what does a partitiion program being smart have to do with defragging?
[12:55] <DBlue> ok, i don't know shortcuts, cause i don't chat a lot
[12:55] <sean> that's why you need to defrag like 36 times
[12:55] <dresden> its a good program
[12:55] <LiberCogito> dresden: You didn't defrag before attempting to dual boot.  Thats a no no.
[12:55] <LiberCogito> dresden: Thats why it didn't work.
[12:56] <dresden> is that my problem?
[12:56] <LiberCogito> dresden: period.
[12:56] <LiberCogito> dresden: yep.
[12:56] <dresden> well my clone is of course defragged
[12:56] <tsurc> whats the best channel to ask about xen and drbd?
[12:56] <sauvin> That's what I'm thinking.
[12:56] <dresden> why wont my clone work?
[12:56] <LiberCogito> dresden: WHAT?!?
[12:56] <dresden> neither my windows or my clone wont work
[12:56] <sean> lmao
[12:56] <sean> you should hear the laugther dresden
[12:56] <dresden> i had a working windows, installed linux, didnt work (you say because i didnt defrag a bunch first)
[12:56] <sean> [no offense] 
[12:56] <dresden> so i load a clone and it wont work either!! same error
[12:56] <dresden> i use norton ghost to load the clone to a partition like it sais i can
[12:56] <dresden> im so confused, is there no fix???
[12:57] <sauvin> You're making me believe I got shit lucky when I shrank my NTFS partition before installing linux.
[12:57] <sean> dresden, did u 0-1-0 ur drive?
[12:57] <LiberCogito> dresden: .... the HARD DRIVE, the PHYSICAL DISK needs to be defragged.
[12:57] <dresden> what is 0-1-0 mean
[12:57] <LiberCogito> dresden: do you understand what a defrag is?
[12:57] <dresden> i know what windows defragmentor does libercogito
[12:57] <sean> sauvin, you might have, but resizing, usually isn't an issue, unless you have too much info on the drive =[
[12:57] <LiberCogito> dresden: Not if you t
[12:57] <LiberCogito> dresden: think that your
[12:57] <dresden> huh?
[12:57] <LiberCogito> dresden: clone will defrag the HD.
[12:58] <sauvin> sean, this is NTFS we're talking about. It was an "issue" five minutes before I bought the freaking thing.
[12:58] <dresden> well the clone only saves the stuff that fits on a CD...i cant fit 100+ GB on a CD
[12:58] <dgjones> dresden, windows defrag isn't that good, it doesn't consolidate free space so you still have bits of files all over the drive
[12:58] <sean> ROFL, sauvin, ilu
[12:58] <Alloosh> guys, I have a network here, ubuntu and xp, both computer are connected to the net, the internet goes from ubuntu to a router and then to the xp, I can see the ubuntu(samba) in the xp network places, but cant see the xp in the ubuntu. its not in the network. any idea?
[12:58] <sean> dresden, try partimage next time
[12:58] <dresden> the norton ghost saves all the real data and ignores empty space
[12:58] <LiberCogito> dresden: a defrag removes file fragments.  on the hard drive.  what does your
[12:58] <dresden> what is partimage?
[12:58] <LiberCogito> dresden: cd have to do with the hard drive?
[12:58] <LiberCogito> dresden: nothing.
[12:59] <dresden> nooooooooo
[12:59] <dresden> the CD saved all the files not the empty space
[12:59] <sean> i needa smoke
[12:59] <sean> brb guys =[
[12:59] <LiberCogito> dresden: do you
[12:59] <dresden> i cant fit 100+ GB on a CD so its irrelevent
[12:59] <dresden> it only saves real files im confused
[12:59] <sean> liber your coming w, me or i'll drag you outta here
[12:59] <LiberCogito> dresden: not understand that installing OVER something desont mean getting rid of fragments?
[12:59] <LiberCogito> dresden: IF you erase a chalkboard, you k
[12:59] <DBlue> Is there a rescue mode on the Feisty Fawn live cd?
[12:59] <dresden> huh
[12:59] <LiberCogito> dresden: know how you can still see the writing sorta?
[01:00] <sean> DBlue, yes there is
[01:00] <sean> =] 
[01:00] <Alloosh> looks like no one saw my post here you go again
[01:00] <DBlue> And
[01:00] <dresden> yes but electronics arent lke that right??
[01:00] <dresden> i have a fully working backed up version of windows that doesnt boot
[01:00] <LiberCogito> dresden: thats what defrags get rid of.  writing over the image doesnt make it not there, it just writes over it.
[01:00] <sean> Alloosh, what is the question?
[01:00] <DBlue> And what the rescue do
[01:00] <Alloosh> guys, I have a network here, ubuntu and xp, both computer are connected to the net, the internet goes from ubuntu to a router and then to the xp, I can see the ubuntu(samba) in the xp network places, but cant see the xp in the ubuntu. its not in the network. any idea?
[01:00] <LiberCogito> dresden: that is exactly how magnetic storage works.
[01:00] <LiberCogito> dresden: its simplified to the extreme, but its the same concept.
[01:00] <sean> Alloosh, be patient and someone will assist asap
[01:00] <dresden> ok cogito i understand that that may be why my windows did not work after i installed linux, but that does NOT explain why my backup doesnt work either
[01:00] <sauvin> Electronics, no, but your hard drive is basically rusted iron dust glued to an aluminum plate. It can retain magnetic charges even across rewrites.
[01:01] <LiberCogito> dresden: and I have to go kill myself a little now.  brb.
[01:01] <Aye> Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to BOOT with my nvidia geforce 6200, because it will only boot with my onboard card, but once X is loaded it will use my PCI graphics card. If i dont have my onboard as my first graphics card (boot card) it will hang on boot.
[01:01] <Alloosh> Sean; I am :)
[01:01] <klerik_> ktulxu
[01:01] <dresden> libercogito
[01:01] <LiberCogito> dresden: because your HD is full of fragmented crap and needs to be deeply reformated.
[01:01] <sean> DBlue, it allows you to fix mistaks using root in the command line
[01:01] <dresden> that doesnt explain why my backup doesnt work
[01:01] <dresden> huhh??
[01:01] <sean> kk brb guys liber too
[01:01] <DBlue> Aye, try to disable it in bios
[01:01] <LiberCogito> yes it does!
[01:01] <sean> step away liber
[01:01] <sean> now
[01:01] <klerik_> .. 
[01:01] <sauvin> The backup might not work if it references sectors on the hard drive that no longer belong to the partition you're restoring it to.
[01:01] <Aye> Disable my onboard?
[01:01] <dresden> ok so if i reformat that space OVER AND OVER it will work?
[01:01] <sean> just do it LiberCogito!
[01:01] <DBlue> Aye, yes
[01:01] <LiberCogito> dresden: does painting a totalled car make the car any less totalled?
[01:01] <dresden> sauvin that makes sense to me
[01:01] <Aye> DBlue, Thats the problem, when i disable my onboard card it hangs on boot
[01:01] <dresden> but my backup isnt totalled...
[01:02] <DBlue> Shame
[01:02] <dresden> my backup is a mint car
[01:02] <dresden> it should just copy my mint car
[01:02] <DBlue> Aye, is the new car ok?
[01:02] <Aye> ..?
[01:02] <dresden> sauvin you recommend i reformat my NTFS again?
[01:02] <DBlue> Aye, I'm functional?
[01:02] <dresden> but wait, are you saying i will have to dedicate the whole drive if i want to use my backed up clone?
[01:02] <mojo_monkey> how do i compile a java servlet on linux
[01:02] <sauvin> your backup is a mint Lincoln now being told to park itself in a parking slot sized for a Cooper.
[01:02] <DBlue> Aye, ups sorry
[01:02] <Aye> DBlue, lawl
[01:03] <dresden> i never used more than 20 GB on my windows at a time when i had it, and its current space is 65 GB
[01:03] <DBlue> Aye, I meant is it functional on other mainboard
[01:03] <dresden> so how can it try to be writing to things 65+
[01:03] <Aye> What do you mean
[01:03] <dresden> it should still be trying to load the backup to the center of the HDD physically
[01:03] <dresden> you know the rings and whatnot?
[01:03] <Aye> Ubuntu only boots if my onboard card isnt disabled
[01:03] <sauvin> This is what we're thinking, anyway. By all the rules I undersand, it SHOULD be @!#$@#$ working. All the right links are there. There's something wrong with the way Windows believes it occupies its share of the hard drive. That's the only thing I can figure.
[01:03] <dresden> ok sauvin that makes sense
[01:04] <dresden> but like i said i never ever used up to 65 GB at a time, and the space of my NTFS partition for windows is shrunk to 65
[01:04] <sauvin> Yes, I know about "rings" and suchlike. I used to be a disk drive hacker for the Commodore :D
[01:04] <dresden> therefore it cannot be writing to something 65+ right?
[01:04] <dresden> wow
[01:04] <dresden> sauvin what do you recommend i do!!!!!!!
[01:04] <dresden> i'd like my backup to work
[01:05] <dresden> but neither my current windows worked or my backup
[01:05] <dresden> if you were me what would you do next
[01:05] <DBlue> Aye, open the computer case, and look in the mainboard, if there is a jumper for the internal video card, and switch is off, or read mainboards manual
[01:05] <sauvin> You might never have used more than 20 gigs at any given time, but if your total cumulative storage needs exceeded 65 gigs, and NTFS is as retarded as I think it might be, you DO NOT know where files would have wound up physically.
[01:05] <dresden> yeah thats what i was thinking is possible sauvin
[01:05] <dresden> but i was hoping it would be smart
[01:06] <DBlue> Aye, but do it with you computer off, and the power cable detached
[01:06] <sauvin> You're expecting anything from Redmond to be smart? Heh.
[01:06] <sauvin> What I'd try, on a weekend when I have nothing better to do, is to wipe the whole hard drive.
[01:06] <Aye> Alright i will try that
[01:06] <sauvin> Reinstall Windows on the entire drive. Get it working nice.
[01:06] <dresden> sauvin if i wiped the WHOLE drive it WILL work
[01:06] <Aye> gonna just fix some other drivers first
[01:06] <dresden> im trying to make ubuntu work with it as well
[01:06] <dresden> ok then what
[01:06] <sauvin> Defrag the living daylights out of it.
[01:06] <dresden> hahahaha
[01:06] <dresden> thats sad
[01:06] <sauvin> Shrink its partition.
[01:06] <sauvin> make sure it STILL works.
[01:06] <dresden> defragmenter over and over?
[01:06] <amorphous_> I have seen before a tail command switch that prints the lines as they appear (are they from dmesg?) does anyone know what this comand is?
[01:07] <sauvin> Then try installing linux.
[01:07] <dresden> sauvin i think i am just going to buy another HDD and put linux on it, which is really upsetting me, because i dont want my OS's to have all this extra space
[01:07] <sauvin> IF IT WORKS, that's when you want to make a new image of your Windows partition.
[01:07] <dresden> ok
[01:07] <dresden> im just going to buy another HDD
[01:07] <dresden> thanks for helping me realise my situtation is hopeless
[01:07] <sauvin> Oh, well, believe me, it's nothing to let Windows eat a monster hard drive. Windows itself IS a monster.
[01:08] <dresden> hahah
[01:08] <dresden> hmm what should i put linux on
[01:08] <sauvin> As for having multiple hard drives, if you have a tower and the bay space, well... O:)
[01:08] <dresden> sauvin i actually have 3 HDD and 1 CDROM
[01:08] <sauvin> There was a time I had two versions of Windows, two versions of linux and a version of freebsd all on the same computerl.
[01:08] <dresden> but 2 HDD are full of stuff, i wanted to put my OS's split on 1 HDD
[01:09] <jonathan_> somebody can help me to open files office 2007???
[01:09] <Doumyemrus> TRK' Z!
[01:09] <sauvin> Office 2007!? Eeek!
[01:09] <dresden> im not even going to try to have a dual boot from 1 HDD if its so hard
[01:09] <amorphous_> or is it a dmesg command? either way I cant find it, so can anyone suggest how I can see kernel messages as they happen?
 use openoffice
[01:09] <jonathan_> I need to open office 2007 docx....
[01:09] <dresden> sauvin how much space does ubuntu take up (i actually use the Linux Mint version of Ubuntu)
[01:09] <jonathan_> already
[01:09] <sauvin> It shouldn't be. I have XP and two different distros of linux on my laptop.
[01:09] <jonathan_> it can't
[01:09] <DBlue> Is cheaper, and betther
[01:09] <neumind> who can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?
[01:09] <neumind> who can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?
[01:09] <sauvin> I gave ubuntu 12 gigs.
[01:09] <dresden> well sauvin i did EXACTLY what you told me to do MINUS defragmentation
[01:10] <dresden> and it wont work, so i guess not defragging is my prob?
[01:10] <jonathan_> they read it as a zip
[01:10] <sauvin> That's what I THINK. I can't guarantee it.
[01:10] <dresden> ok should i just load my backup windows on the WHOLE drive, defrag the HELL out of it, and then give my ubuntu like 12 gigs??
[01:10] <LiberCogito> dresden: yes!
[01:11] <dresden> thanks LiberCogito lolol
[01:11] <LiberCogito> dresden: your backup isn't the car.  your harddrive is the car.
[01:11] <dresden> hahah this was a funny experience
[01:11] <dresden> man i HATE windows
[01:11] <sauvin> I gave ubuntu 12 gigs because that's the free partition I had. If I'd had my druthers, I'd have given it more.
[01:11] <mattycoze> anyone tried the new ubuntu yet?
[01:11] <jonathan_> help please
[01:11] <LiberCogito> dresden: your backup is the paint job.  you need to fix the care before the paintjob.
[01:11] <dresden> well i dont want my OS to have a lot because i want to be able to share space with my windows OS some how
 try this http://blog.zamzar.com/2007/04/10/convert-docx-files-to-doc-pdf-odt-and-txt/
[01:11] <dresden> can Linux write data on my Windows partition good???
[01:11] <dresden> (as good as windows?)
 They convert online
[01:12] <jonathan_> ok
[01:12] <sauvin> I wouldn't want to bet on it.
[01:12] <jonathan_> thx
[01:12] <LiberCogito> dresden: yes
[01:12] <DBlue> They say that
[01:12] <dresden> sauvin thinks no and libercogito things yes??
[01:12] <sauvin> What a lot of people do is create a largish FAT drive. Windows and Linux can both read and write such a partition.
[01:12] <neumind> who can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?
[01:12] <jonathan_> Conversions wont work for .docx files created with pre-release versions of MS Word 2007.
[01:12] <wlfzyq> 
[01:12] <dresden> sauvin if i put stuff on FAT it will rename everything to short names like THIS right?
[01:12] <faileas> nope
[01:12] <PriceChild> !cn | wlfzyq
[01:12] <ubotu> wlfzyq: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:13] <faileas> FAT after win95 supports LFN
[01:13] <wlfzyq> sorry! i first
[01:13] <dresden> whats LFN/
[01:13] <dresden> oh long file names
[01:13] <dresden> +
[01:13] <sauvin> I think people wanting to access office 2007 files may have to wait a while for the opensource folks to catch up :(
[01:13] <dresden> +
[01:13] <dresden> sorry dropped my mouse on my keyboard twice hitting the + key hehe
 Then open the file in somewhere where therei stupid office 2007, and saved as doc
[01:13] <Mr_NZ> I have just installed ubuntu-mythtv-frontend but it comes up on boot and I don't want it to
[01:13] <Mr_NZ> how do i stop it
[01:13] <sauvin> The one thing I do NOT appreciate about FAT is that it doesn't support permissions or ownership.
[01:13] <wlfzyq> 
[01:13] <dresden> sauvin have you heard of Linux Mint and do you like it?
[01:13] <wlfzyq> 
[01:13] <wlfzyq> 
[01:13] <dresden> its what i use, they say its just Ubuntu with more stuff put in
[01:13] <sauvin> I have no idea what Mint might be.
[01:14] <LiberCogito> sauvin: its just ubuntu with a green theme.
[01:14] <dresden> type it in google is Ubuntu that can play MP3s and stuff right off
[01:14] <sean> ew @ mint
[01:14] <dresden> its supposed to be the same thing with extra stuff
[01:14] <jonathan_> anybody use ubuntu 7.10?
[01:14] <dresden> when i type linux in google its like the first thing that comes up on certain searches
[01:14] <LiberCogito> dresden: that extra stuff takes 7 minutes to setup, tops.
[01:14] <neumind> who can help me witch psybnc installation on ubuntu?!
[01:14] <sauvin> Oh, if you give me a computer with a plain vanilla linux and a working Internet connexion, I'll have a linux loaded with 'features' inside of a week.
[01:14] <sean> *cough* same thing - just more stuff to screw up
[01:14] <dresden> heheh true
[01:15] <sauvin> Sheah, my ubuntu plays just about anything.
[01:15] <dresden> i love how ubuntu can use divx or whatever it is
[01:15] <dresden> i never ever had to download a codec
[01:15] <dresden> is ubuntu packed with codecs and things?
[01:15] <LiberCogito> dresden: my ubuntu can install rpms its so hot.
[01:15] <borzun> hello
[01:15] <sauvin> I can't remember if I had to download anything to get divx to play; I DO know I had to install libdvcss to play my DVD movies. Big deal.
[01:15] <dresden> wow arent rpms for different distros?
[01:15] <LiberCogito> dresden: nope.
[01:15] <PriceChild> dresden, no, but they're easily installed with the easy codec instillation
[01:16] <dresden> how do i get teh easy codec installation
[01:16] <borzun> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7199/molettedo3.jpg how to do it as on windows?
[01:16] <bullgard4> Can phpMyAdmin display the content of a data field of 'memo' type similar to the Microsoft Access or OO.o Base forms?
[01:16] <perpetual> Question: How do I make gnome-screensaver span two monitors, instead of displaying two separate screensavers on each monitor? I use nvidia drivers with twinview.
[01:16] <LiberCogito> dresden: yep.  redhat package manager.
[01:16] <dresden> thats cool
[01:16] <sean> lol @ codec
[01:16] <larson9999> dresden, depending on file you have to install codecs.  non free stuff isn't installed by default
[01:16] <dresden> i dont know hwy people use other distros now that ubuntu is out
[01:16] <perpetual> I cannot find it in the fora
[01:16] <sean> dresden, linux is all about freedom
[01:16] <spectre__> hi to all,I need to login in ubuntu as root.where can I do it ? If I try to do in terminal or in the opening graphic login I can't do that.thanks to all
[01:16] <sean> diff dists for diff needs
[01:17] <DBlue> gksudo
[01:17] <perpetual> spectre__, sudo su -
[01:17] <dresden> ok so LiberCogito or Sauvin , do you guys think I can move all my linux data (downloads and such) to an NTFS USB HDD without problems???
[01:17] <DBlue> I want too to log on as root, but the account is disabled in Ubuntu
[01:17] <perpetual> DBlue, sudo su -
[01:17] <LiberCogito> dresden: fat32 would be better.
[01:17] <dresden> why is fat32 better?
[01:17] <perpetual> DBlue, then do passwd
[01:17] <savadda> Hi, im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop, it seems to load the initial screen and i click start install, it loads loads a variety of drivers, it finally loads to a screen with ubuntu written in the centre, where it seems to hang i think, the hard drive light goes crazy, but nothing happens!
[01:18] <DBlue> AN
[01:18] <spectre__> thanks perpetual
[01:18] <DBlue> d
[01:18] <LiberCogito> dresden: it works out of the box.
[01:18] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: possibly, but i wouldn't delete the originals afterwards
[01:18] <dresden> ok
[01:18] <LiberCogito> *cries* google people, google.
[01:18] <Mr_NZ> ?
[01:18] <sauvin> dresden, FAT32 has larger capacity.
[01:18] <dresden> i have a problem because i have loads of data on my USB HDD i created with WIndows 2000, and that HDD uses NTFS...and i want to delete this HDD and keep my data
[01:18] <LiberCogito> sean: sudo pass me the pretzels.
[01:18] <neumind> how Be sure your terminal program allows    the handling of curses ?
[01:18] <dresden> whats the advantage of NTFS if its so bad??
[01:18] <borzun> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7199/molettedo3.jpg how to do it as on windows?
[01:18] <perpetual> DBlue, to log in as root in login screen, change AllowRoot=false to true in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[01:19] <sean> beth sudo no
[01:19] <sean> lol
[01:19] <LiberCogito> command not found
[01:19] <sean> or just go to the login screen prefs
[01:19] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: ntfs supports access rights. fat doesn't
[01:19] <sean> lol
[01:19] <dresden> oh
[01:19] <dresden> is that hte only difference??
[01:19] <dresden> thats stupid
[01:19] <sean> more security
[01:19] <sean> it's not stupid
[01:19] <DBlue> Oh thanks, what relief, do you know how many times i have written my 15 char password
[01:19] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: it's the only important one i can think of at the moment
[01:19] <sean> wiki it dresden
[01:19] <sauvin> The advantage of NTFS is that it's what Windows uses. In fact, I'm not aware that Windows can use anything ELSE (except maybe FAT32 - anybody know of XP or higher actually having this ability?)
[01:19] <dresden> i never used access writes before in my decade of windows using
[01:20] <faileas> yup
[01:20] <sauvin> NTFS sits atop a FAT core?
[01:20] <LiberCogito> sauvin: just fat and ntfs
[01:20] <faileas> more accurately
[01:20] <howlingmadhowie> sauvin: xp can use fat32, but it's artificially limited to some small size
[01:20] <dresden> so are you guys saying i should NOT have formatted my removable USB HDD for NTFS?? that tehy would be compatible with windows using FAT32??
[01:20] <spectre__> thanks perpetual ,all works right
[01:20] <spectre__> bye
[01:20] <neumind> how Be sure your terminal program allows    the handling of curses ?
[01:20] <faileas> windows BOOTS NTFS and fat. windows can read any thing
[01:20] <EJ> \\'elcome ack Jesus
[01:20] <perpetual> DBlue, of course, using gnome as root, you can destroy your system with one bad mouse move in nautilus. And don't use the browser.
[01:20] <LiberCogito> faileas: what are you smoking?
[01:20] <faileas> howlingmadhowie: its ability to format NOT read fat drives is limited, to be more presise ;)
[01:20] <sean> windows CAN'T read anything faileas
[01:21] <LiberCogito> faileas: windows has NO clue what anything but fat32 and ntfs are.
[01:21] <sauvin> faileas, you're saying that it'd be possible to (for example) format a partition ext2, install Windows on it and expect it to run?
[01:21] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: you can install drivers so that windows can read any open file system format, as far as i know
[01:21] <faileas> sean: mine reads EXT3. swap, etc. windows has a load of thired party file systems
[01:21] <dresden> cool
[01:21] <malgar> hello, i have python 2.5 but i don't find OpenGL bindings in my repositories (ubuntu feisty and gutsy).. there are only those for 2.4. where to search?
[01:21] <hans> uit
[01:21] <neumind> i have a problem : *]  Creating Menu, please wait.
[01:21] <neumind> This needs the ncurses library. If it is not available, menuconf wont work. If you are using curses, use make menuconfig-curses instead.
[01:21] <neumind> make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 1
[01:21] <howlingmadhowie> faileas: okay :) i didn't know that :)
[01:21] <Sithe> is sean here?
[01:21] <sean> sithe, right here homie
[01:21] <faileas> sauvin: it can't BOOT from anything but NTFS and FAT. it can have third party FS installed as IFS, or have raw disk filters
[01:21] <DBlue> perpetual,what other conf are there in Ubuntu, cause I'm using Ubuntu only 4 months, and SuSe 3 years
[01:21] <sean> and faileas put down the pipe, linux > fs support than windows otb
[01:21] <Sithe> sean im getting the Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:21] <Sithe> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:21] <Sithe> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:21] <Sithe> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:21] <Sithe> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[01:22] <Sithe>  stuff again
[01:22] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: why are you compiling libncurses?
[01:22] <sean> are you running the xgl server now Sithe
[01:22] <sauvin> There's a BIG-ass difference between "having RW capability via IFS" and "running on".
[01:22] <dresden> sauvin, cogito, so because NTFS is a microsoft thing, is ubuntu just as good as windows at writing data onto a NTFS drive??? (i do NOT mean installing ubuntu to NTFS)
[01:22] <Sithe> idk how......
[01:22] <perpetual> DBlue, eh .. can you rephrase your question?
[01:22] <faileas> sean: i didn't say it was 'better'. i said windows tan more than one system
[01:22] <LiberCogito> faileas: So what you're saying is that you can get it to read other FS with unsupported software.  That sounds peachy.  Really.
[01:22] <Sithe> <------LINUX NOOB
[01:22] <faileas> sauvin: IFS = FUSE ;)
[01:22] <neumind> this is outo
[01:22] <sean> faileas,  yes, but it doesn't do it nearly as well, or even half as safe ;)
[01:22] <Sithe> sean how do I run the xgl serveR?
[01:23] <sauvin> dresden, linux can read NTFS volumes reliably. I think the community at large is still deeply suspicious of WRITE capability.
[01:23] <faileas> never had any data loss with it
[01:23] <dresden> oh ok
[01:23] <DBlue> perpetual, i mean like for grub menu file i know this, what about nautilus conf, is there such thing?
[01:23] <sean> Sithe, when you login, it has the session option, what is your default?
[01:23] <faileas> only real issues is with ACLs and fuse has that too
[01:23] <dresden> sauvin how do i transfer data i create on linux, to my windows NTFS partition???
[01:23] <sauvin> dresden, I'd do that from Windows.
[01:23] <Sithe> session option? where?
[01:23] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: so it looks like, if you could use linux to create a large fat partition on the drive, this partition cold be written to and read by windows and linux (and also solaris, os x etc.)
[01:23] <sean> faileas, least *nix has jfs'
[01:23] <dresden> but windows cant read my linux partition
[01:23] <larson9999> sauvin, i think that's old data.  for my money write has been stable for some time.  but what do i know?
[01:23] <sauvin> Actually, what I'd do is copy all the files to a FAT32 partition.
[01:23] <dresden> thats a good idea howlingmadhowie
[01:23] <perpetual> DBlue, well, if I do  find . -name "*.conf*" | wc , I get 249 249 6151
[01:24] <Sithe> sean i have know idea what your talking about
[01:24] <faileas> dresden: mine can
[01:24] <dresden> should i use FAT32 specifically?? is that hte best recommendation to transfer files between?
[01:24] <dresden> nice
[01:24] <DBlue> perpetual, and now the root account will look like, when i log in in it.
[01:24] <sean> urg... hm, Sithe, what exactly is happening?
[01:24] <faileas> dresden, yes
[01:24] <dresden> ok
[01:24] <emman101> where can i download codeblocks IDE for C ubuntu?
[01:24] <Sithe> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:24] <Sithe> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:24] <Sithe> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:24] <Sithe> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:24] <Sithe> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[01:24] <sean> is it after reboot, when does it happen that you lose the fglrxinfo showing the ati?
[01:24] <sauvin> larson9999, I have no idea what you know. You may well know a crapload more than I do, because I'll be the first to admit I'm still playing catch-up from being out of the game for a few years.
[01:24] <DBlue> perpetual, cause in SuSe was red backgroung an warrning
[01:24] <LiberCogito> sauvin: you know what works even better? DVDs.  They dont have mount or boot issues.  and they're less complicated for our dear friend dresden
[01:24] <sean> oh, Sithe, check the xorg.conf again for me for the composite disabled
[01:24] <Sithe> sean yeah it goes back to that everytime I reboot
[01:24] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: you need fat32 if you want to create a partitions larger than <some small size you can look up on wikipedia>
[01:25] <Sithe> sean ok
[01:25] <dresden> lol libercogito
[01:25] <sean> lol
[01:25] <dresden> hahaha ok
[01:25] <sauvin> LiberCogito, I've heard that different DVD writers can do proprietary things such that what's written with one drive isn't necessarily readable by the other.
[01:25] <larson9999> sauvin, then again, who'd but important stuff on ntfs?  :)
[01:25] <emman101> anybody knows where can i download codeblocks IDE for C ubuntu?
[01:25] <LiberCogito> sauvin: erm.... no?
[01:25] <sean> wow...
[01:25] <sauvin> larson9999, um, Windows wienies?
[01:25] <sean> omg
[01:25] <sean> just wow
[01:26] <savadda> Hi, im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop, it seems to load the initial screen and i click start install, it loads loads a variety of drivers, it finally loads to a screen with ubuntu written in the centre, where it seems to hang i think, the hard drive light goes crazy, but nothing happens!
[01:26] <Sithe> sean: its at 0
[01:26] <sauvin> emman101, load up the Synaptics Package Manager and look around.
[01:26] <sean> set it to disabled Sithe
[01:26] <perpetual> DBlue, you make contorted sentences, and incomplete too. I have trouble understanding you
[01:26] <sean> not 0
[01:26] <sean> then restart x and try again for me plz
[01:26] <spectre__> dear man,I'm logged in a terminal window as root,but if I try to run gparted from it i get an error,and I'f I try to run it from gnome it works but I can't do resize or others operation,can you help me ? thanks
[01:26] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: i think, most transferal from ntfs to ext3 and vice versa happens through a samba server
[01:26] <Sithe> sean: How do I do that. It says: Section "Extensions"
[01:26] <Sithe> 	Option	    "Composite" "0"    right now
[01:26] <dresden> i have no idea what that means lol
[01:26] <dresden> i dont even know what samba is
[01:26] <sean> change the 0 to disabled
[01:27] <sauvin> perpetual, not everybody that into the channel who might come are in countries wherein English spoken or taught even born are.
[01:27] <Sithe> dresden: samba is a character in the lion king
[01:27] <dresden> hahahaha
[01:27] <dresden> hahaha
[01:27] <sean> or copy and paste it to a new line directly below it, and set it to disabled, so you'd have one w. 0 and one reading disabled
[01:27] <sean> lmao
[01:27] <dresden> that perfeclty fits, the lion king
[01:27] <LiberCogito> sean: I have this sudden compulsion to start drinking again.
[01:27] <Sithe> sean: does capitolization matter?
[01:27] <Chousuke> Sithe: that's simba ;(
[01:27] <dresden> with all the other confusion im reading
[01:27] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: samba is the open-source implementation of the smb-protocol of microsoft (at some stage they let slip how it worked or it got reverse engineered or something). it allows network sharing with a windows computer
[01:27] <sean> meee to LiberCogito
[01:27] <DBlue> perpetual, cause in SuSe was red background and warning, sorry about that but i touch the insert button by misstake
[01:27] <Sithe> Chousuke: My bad= )
[01:27] <sean> "Disabled"
[01:27] <dresden> nice howlingmadhowie
[01:27] <sean> capital d Sithe
[01:27] <sauvin> Samba is a server/client thing having to do with SMB blocks, iirc; Windows thing.
[01:27] <ZeroA4> sauvin, There are 2 writable DVD standards DVD-R(W), DVD+R(w). They are incompatible with each other but are compatible with DVD-Video e DVD-Audio
[01:27] <dresden> im not going to use it though im going to make FAT32
[01:27] <bullgard4> Is it possible to edit the messages that I have sent and which are stored in my Irssi? Sometimes it seems that I succeeded but at other times not.
[01:28] <Sithe> sean: alright I did that
[01:28] <sean> then save, close, and restart x
[01:28] <ssammy> savadda: I had the same problem on a Thinkpad T20
[01:28] <perpetual> sauvin, no excuse. I'm dutch. I learned english too. Not perfect, but quite understandable.
[01:28] <neumind> who is inetd?
[01:28] <sauvin> "who"?
[01:28] <Sithe> sean: restart X?
[01:28] <sean> yep, ctrl+alt+bksp
[01:28] <sauvin> perpetual, you were saying? :D My wife spoke really broken English, too.
[01:28] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: inetd is the super-demon
[01:28] <LiberCogito> perpetual: You write it with greater clarity than many native speakers. :)  Kudos.
[01:29] <sean> lol beth ilu
[01:29] <LiberCogito> ily!
[01:29] <ssammy> savadda: it was the cd-rom drive
[01:29] <Sithe> Alright Sean should I run an fglrxinfo?
[01:29] <dresden> OK Sauvin and LiberCogito and others, heres my new plan, please tell me if its a good idea OK?? 1) wipe the whole HDD and load my working Win2kPro NTFS backup on the WHOLE drive (as i normally do),  2) Defrag the HELL out of it,  3) shrink NTFS and create 42 GB free space,  4) create a 30 GB FAT32 space,  and 4) then create a 12 GB free space for ubuntu  5) install ubuntu,  6) use FAT32 to transfer files inbetween OS ??????
[01:29] <dresden>  good idea??
[01:29] <sean> plz and thank you Sithe
[01:29] <sauvin> anyhow, perpetual, kudos to you and your excellent English, but not everybody can hope to aspire to such lofty heights of mastery.
[01:29] <neumind> neumind@neumind-system:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[01:29] <neumind> ProFTPd is started from inetd.
[01:29] <neumind> problem?
[01:29] <Sithe> sean Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:29] <Sithe> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:29] <Sithe> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:29] <Sithe> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:29] <Sithe> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[01:30] <perpetual> sauvin, ah the joy it must be if my wife would not know my language at all. How quiet that would be...
[01:30] <savadda> ssammy: what do u mean it was the cd rom drive?
[01:30] <larson9999> i can't get my wife to study english.  she's ok but she should study a bit each day.  she doesn't work.
[01:30] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: or to be exact, rather than having 10 different demons on your computer waiting for a request to come through the network, you just have one (inetd) and inetd starts the right program to handle the request
[01:30] <Chousuke> dresden: Ubuntu can safely write files to NTFS
[01:30] <sauvin> LOL!!!
[01:30] <LiberCogito> dresden: sounds okay.
[01:30] <Chousuke> dresden: with ntfs-3g
[01:30] <dresden> chousuke sauvin and libercogito told me not to
[01:30] <Sithe> Sean should I run those 4 commands from earlier?
[01:30] <sean> Sithe, did you upgdate the fglrx driver at any point?
[01:30] <ZeroA4> dresden, it ok but you can use NTFS too.. Ubuntu 7.04 has NTFS 3G suport
[01:30] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  so how i can restart me proftp?
[01:30] <Sithe> sean: no
[01:30] <sean> Sithe, you can try the 4 commands
[01:30] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: it still has its bugs.
[01:30] <dresden> what is this 3G NTFS im hearing
[01:30] <Chousuke> dresden: it's safe. You don't need fat32
[01:30] <sean> and then restart x and let me know what happens
[01:30] <Donner> moinsen
[01:30] <spectre__> dear perpetual,I'm logged in a terminal window as root,but if I try to run gparted from it i get an error,and I'f I try to run it from gnome it works but I can't do resize or others operation,can you help me ? thanks
[01:30] <twosouls82> !ntfs
[01:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:30] <B-rabbit> hi guyz, does anyone know how to change the default home page of konqueror?
[01:30] <sean> it seems like the fglrx driver may not be loading
[01:30] <Chousuke> LiberCogito: It does, but it'll refuse operations that would not succeed.
[01:31] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: almost. windows won't let you create a 30G fat32 partition
[01:31] <dresden> sauvin and libercogito what do you think, im hearing about all this miracle 3G stuff
[01:31] <Chousuke> LiberCogito: so it won't break NTFS partitions
[01:31] <Sithe> sean: they are all sudo'd right?
[01:31] <sauvin> Chousoke, it's best to take a conservative approach with these things. Leave the NTFS write capapility to the pioneers for a while.
[01:31] <dresden> howlingmadhowie THAT SUCKS
[01:31] <sean> Chousuke, ntfs-3g doesn't have flawless write support
[01:31] <ssammy> savadda: yap...the cd-rom drive did not read correctly...I burnt another cd and it worked
[01:31] <Chousuke> sauvin: it's been widely tested already.
[01:31] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: is there an entry /etc/init.d/proftpd?
[01:31] <sean> it's still experimental at best
[01:31] <dresden> aahh i have no plan any more if windows wont let me make a 30 GB FAT32
[01:31] <Chousuke> sean: true, but it works
[01:31] <sean> Sithe, yes, suda them all
[01:31] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  yes
[01:31] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: so you have to create that partition from ubuntu
[01:31] <Chousuke> sean: and it's not experimental either.
[01:31] <dresden> ahahh i have no plan any more!!
[01:31] <Chousuke> sean: it's just not complete.
[01:31] <dresden> but howlingmadhowie will it still be read from windows?
[01:31] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: try: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[01:32] <dresden> can windows READ a 30 GB FAT32?
[01:32] <twosouls82> dresden: In Linux you don't have the 30GB limit, when creating a FAT32 partition
[01:32] <Sithe> sean: andrew@Andrew:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx
[01:32] <Sithe> FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
[01:32] <sean> Chousuke, you just dumbfounded me lol
[01:32] <sauvin> Dresden, stick with FAT32 for common areas for a while, mmkay?
[01:32] <PriceChild> dresden, yes
[01:32] <dresden> ok
[01:32] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: Read that back to yourself and tell me you honestly think it makes sense.
[01:32] <larson9999> does gparted live have a new maintainer?
[01:32] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[01:32] <dresden> awesome so i can make a 30GB FAT32 from linux, and it will be read from windows???
[01:32] <ZeroA4> dresden, you can create FAT32 on linux... Windows reads it
[01:32] <twosouls82> dresden: and windows can read a 30 GB plus part, eventhough it can't create itself
[01:32] <savadda> ssammy thanks for that ill try burn another copy
[01:32] <dresden> wow i HATE microsoft
[01:32] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: if i remember correctly, windows will just say that a new drive has been discovered and try to mount it. windows can apparently read up to the file system size limit for FAT32, it just can't create it
[01:32] <perpetual> spectre__, what does gparted say?
[01:32] <sean> Sithe, try to reinstall the fglrx driver, and re-run those commands
[01:32] <Chousuke> LiberCogito, sean: there are some cases where NTFS-3g is not able to perform a write. It'll however refuse the operation in that case, so no damage will be done
[01:32] <dresden> thanks howlingmadhowie and others
[01:33] <Sithe> sean: how can I reinstall it?
[01:33] <ssammy> savadda: Try it...maybe it works for you too
[01:33] <sean> Chousuke, are you a developer of the ntfs-3g driver?
[01:33] <twosouls82> sauvin: 30 GB on windows, 100 GB + on Linux
[01:33] <Chousuke> sean: no.
[01:33] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: Yes, and Vista is a stable groundbreaking OS.  Don't believe all the documentation you read.
[01:33] <sauvin> Windows can deal with 100GB FAT32 volumes?
[01:33] <pawan1> hi
[01:33] <twosouls82> sauvin: yep
[01:33] <ZeroA4> sauvin, i think its 130 or 160 GB maximum partition size and 2G maximum file size
[01:33] <dresden> hahahahaha vista sucks i have vista ultimate and i uninstalled that CRAP
[01:34] <dresden> it actually was compatible with me too
[01:34] <sauvin> Windows Vista is about as stable as my lower GI after eating too many baked beans.
[01:34] <twosouls82> sauvin: no creating them, but using them in Windows is fine
[01:34] <taxman> sauvin: yes, I have a 90GB working fine. Ubuntu seems to think there is a 4gb per file limit that Windows doesn't though
[01:34] <Chousuke> LiberCogito: I haven't really seen any reports of NTFS volumes broken by ntfs-3g yet.
[01:34] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: reading on wikipedia: fat32 can be used for partitions up to 4TB in size (4000 GB). the maximum file size is however only 4GB
[01:34] <Chousuke> LiberCogito: But I do know it's widely used
[01:34] <dresden> taxman i cant have a 4GB or higher file on FAT32?
[01:34] <dresden> on linux?
[01:34] <Chousuke> true
[01:34] <taxman> dresden: I couldn't
[01:34] <Chousuke> not on windows either
[01:34] <dresden> crap i have huge files
[01:34] <Sithe> sean: how do I reinstall fglrx?
[01:34] <sauvin> dresden, if you have a 4GB file to worry about, you've got other problems.
[01:35] <dresden> i have files that are sometimes 10s of GB !!!!!!
[01:35] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: that seems to be a problem with FAT32
[01:35] <Chousuke> then you will have to use ntfs
[01:35] <taxman> Chousuke: I have many 4+GB files in Windows on Fat32
[01:35] <dresden> its ok il just break them down in linux before i send them to windows2000 pro
[01:35] <ZeroA4> dresden, no... FAT32 does not have suport for bigger tahn 2GB or 4GB file
[01:35] <twosouls82> dresden: that's why a lot of "pioneers" try ntfs-3g.. you can only have < 4 GB files on FAT32
[01:35] <sean> Sithe, open synaptic, look for the fglrx driver by doing a search for fglrx, mark it for a re-install
[01:35] <dresden> ok thats ok il break them in linux into pieces
[01:35] <ZeroA4> dresden, use NTFS
[01:35] <twosouls82> hahaha
[01:35] <dresden> thanks for heads up
[01:35] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: don't read, eh?  googling "feisty ntfs write broken" returns 60,400 results.
[01:35] <Sithe> sean: alright
[01:35] <pawan> which is the best of till now
[01:35] <dresden> zero everybody here seems to think NTFS is not a good choice for linux to write on
[01:36] <sean> dresden, it's not
[01:36] <taxman> eh, maybe XP is smart enough to auto break up largefiles in FAT32 and just not tell me
[01:36] <Chousuke> I wouldn't be so worried. NTFS-3g already has a stable release.
[01:36] <dresden> im confused as to why we're divided on this issue
[01:36] <sauvin> It's not.
[01:36] <sauvin> dresden, part of the problem is one of perception.
[01:36] <Sithe> sean: should I re-install everything that has a green checkbox?
[01:36] <dresden> ok
[01:36] <dresden> sauvin you recommend i use FAT32 right?
[01:36] <dresden> il do that
[01:36] <sean> nope, just the fglrx driver
[01:36] <Sithe> k
[01:36] <twosouls82> dresden: I use it on two boxes here, since the feisty release... never had problems with it.. still I don't recommend it on production boxes
[01:36] <sauvin> Yup. It's been around a while and is well understood. NTFS isn't.
[01:36] <faileas> taxman, nope, it dosen't
[01:36] <dresden> ok
[01:37] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: you know what happened when I tried to write to NTFS?
[01:37] <dresden> thank you every one
[01:37] <Sithe> sean: xorg-driver-fglrx?
[01:37] <ZeroA4> taxman, I think XP just let is pass but them you cant edit the file... just delete it
[01:37] <Chousuke> LiberCogito: with ntfs-3g?
[01:37] <Sithe> sean: or fglrx-kerel-source?
[01:37] <sean> Sithe, yes'ir
[01:37] <spectre__> perpetual: gparted says "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::OptionError'
[01:37] <spectre__> Aborted (core dumped)"
[01:37] <larson9999> dresden ZeroA4 i've been writing ntfs with ubuntu on 3 different machines for about 2 years now.  pretty heavy writing and no issues yet.  but you know what they say about 'works for me!'
[01:37] <Chousuke> No, I don't. What?
[01:37] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: It unmounted the drive.  permanently.  It could not be remount, no matter what I did.
[01:37] <dresden> hahah
[01:37] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: according to the wikipedia article, windows can create fat32 partitions up to 32GB in size.
[01:37] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: yep.  had to reinstall ubuntu.
[01:37] <dresden> i will go with the safest option any way
[01:37] <taxman> could be, I don't edit them
[01:37] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: But hey, the documentation says it works, so that must be true!
[01:37] <Sithe> sean: Alright re-installed
[01:37] <Chousuke> sounds like you did something wrong then :P
[01:37] <dresden> oh wow, why did so many say otherwise here holwingmadhowie??
[01:38] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: It also completely corrupted a hard drive on a completely different computer.
[01:38] <perpetual> spectre__, hmm.
[01:38] <ZeroA4> larson9999, i have used ntfs-3g too... no problems here, Vista and XP
[01:38] <sean> now run the 4 commands as sudo, restart x, and run fglrxino for me plz Sithe
[01:38] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: Sounds like you're an idiot that believes any documentation.
[01:38] <Sithe> sean alright
[01:38] <twosouls82> dresden: I would make a large fat32 partition for the important files to be shared.. and a smaller ntfs partition for dvds etc (if you wan't to share those rw too)
[01:38] <dresden> hey i saw a..... review on the.....internet..that vista was the perfect OS and we should all buy it.........lol
[01:38] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: sorry, i got distracted. it seems like you need an inetd. do you have openbsd-inetd ?
[01:38] <spectre__> but if i try to run it from the gnome it works but it's all locked,i think because in gnome i am as user and not as root
[01:39] <dresden> ok thats what i was thinking twosouls82
[01:39] <twosouls82> dresden: they are payed to say that?
[01:39] <neumind> i dont know
[01:39] <dresden> ehhehhehehe i was joking
[01:39] <twosouls82> bad joke =)
[01:39] <Chousuke> LiberCogito: I don't know what happened with your disk, but I resent being called an idiot. :P
[01:39] <dresden> but yes i actually read that
[01:39] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: of course, if you do that, you're getting close to breaking the maximum number of partitions on a harddisk
[01:39] <dresden> a lot of people seem to think vista is the :wave of the future
[01:39] <faileas> naw
[01:39] <dresden> wow theres a maximum??
[01:39] <faileas> its ME XP ;)
[01:39] <dresden> i thought you could have unlimitd partitions
[01:39] <twosouls82> they should try mac and reconsider
[01:39] <sauvin> Chousoke, I don't call you an idiot, but it's not necessarily accusing you of BEING an idiot to suggest that you SOUND like one.
[01:40] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: And I resent that you think that your personal OPINION is somehow more relavent to an actual experience.
[01:40] <LiberCogito> *than an
[01:40] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  i dont know
[01:40] <larson9999> heck, i haven't been able to have a windows installation that could read ntfs for more than a few months without it telling me it was missing some important dll that was write there.  i'd say linux does a better job with ntfs than windows :)
[01:40] <Chousuke> LiberCogito: which version of ntfs-3g was this?
[01:40] <perpetual> spectre__, so then do sudo <program>
[01:40] <dresden> lol
[01:40] <Lustblader> how to enable my usb device.. it works in windoze but not in linux.. all it says is "no media in drive"
[01:40] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: not at either computer,so I couldn't tell you.
[01:40] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: Nor do I really care to.
[01:40] <spectre__> perpetual,ok,I'M trying now
[01:40] <sauvin> larson, i've never had THAT happen; I've never had files wink out of existence.
[01:40] <perpetual> spectre__, you need to be root to be able to change partitions
[01:40] <LiberCogito> Chousuke: Three other people witnessed both crashes.  It happened.  Deal.
[01:40] <ZeroA4> dresden, you can have a vaery big number of logical volumes on a extended partition , but only 4 partitions
[01:41] <sauvin> Lustblader, what's the device?
[01:41] <Sithe> sean: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:41] <Sithe> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:41] <Sithe> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:41] <Sithe> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:41] <Sithe> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[01:41] <dresden> wow thanks zero thanks so much i did not know this!!!!!
[01:41] <sean> sitting beside LiberCogito, Chousuke, witnessed both...
[01:41] <LiberCogito> Lustblader: does it have a usb flash drive attached?
[01:41] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: do you have /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd
[01:41] <LiberCogito> !paste | sithe
[01:41] <ubotu> sithe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:41] <Lustblader> a 1 gig usb device that appears as a floppy drive + usb in windows
[01:41] <ZeroA4> dresden, :)
[01:41] <dresden> the ubuntu pastebin is such a good idea
[01:41] <sauvin> What is the device?
[01:42] <Sithe> !paste | LiberCogito
[01:42] <ubotu> LiberCogito: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:42] <spectre__> perpetual,I get the same error "root@spectre-laptop:~# sudo gparted
[01:42] <spectre__> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::OptionError'
[01:42] <spectre__> Aborted (core dumped)
[01:42] <spectre__> "
[01:42] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  no
[01:42] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: try installing it
[01:42] <neumind> how?
[01:42] <sean> Sithe,  try this link http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[01:42] <sean> follow the guide, and let me know
[01:42] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: though i'm surprised it isn't automatically installed as part of proftp
[01:42] <Sithe> sean: k
[01:43] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: system->administration->synaptic package manager
[01:43] <perpetual> spectre__, well, maybe gparted has a bug. There are several other partitioning programs: fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk, normal parted, and some gnome program too
[01:43] <dresden> can anybody tell me about the linux file system??? is it the best in the world?? what if i installed linux on FAT32??
[01:43] <spectre__> ok,thanks perpetual
[01:43] <Lustblader> LiberCogito: any ideas?
[01:43] <LiberCogito> dresden: ext3
[01:43] <sean> spectre__, qtparted also
[01:43] <perpetual> spectre__, what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:43] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  then what?
[01:43] <Sithe> sean: I dont hav Dapper I have Fiesty
[01:43] <sauvin> dresden, YOU DO NOT WANT TO INSTALL LINUX ON FAT32.
[01:43] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: i don't think you can. linux needs rights
[01:43] <dresden> yeah is ext3 "friggan awesome"
[01:43] <dresden> thanks
[01:43] <dresden> i wont sauvin thanks for heads up
[01:43] <LiberCogito> Lustblader: reformat it with a partition editor.
[01:44] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: i'm sure you can find openbsd-inetd yourself. how did you install proftpd?
[01:44] <sean> same instruction guide Sithe
[01:44] <dresden> so is ext3 "freaking awesome" or what??
[01:44] <Sithe> sean: alright
[01:44] <perpetual> dresden, eh, there is ext2, ext3, reiserfs, jfs, xfs and many others
[01:44] <dresden> wow
[01:44] <Chousuke> ext3 is the safest bet
[01:44] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  witch ubuntu feisty help
[01:44] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  you know it?
[01:44] <dresden> im just curious how awesome ext3 is
[01:44] <sauvin> I said that FAT32 has been around a while and is well understood. What I didn't tell you is that part of the reason it's halfway reliable is that it's dumber than a box of rocks.
[01:44] <andyp_> hi
[01:44] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: linux supports about 100 different file systems
[01:44] <spectre__> perpetual:i need to resize the boot partition,now i 'm trying qtparted
[01:44] <sean> dresden, i like reiser personally
[01:44] <dresden> hahaha hows it dumber
[01:44] <dresden> sauvin
[01:45] <larson9999> sauvin, oh? actually a pretty common issue when i last used windows much.  at work the support guys had a bat file on their thumbdrives for the problem.  maybe it's not an issue anymore but google windows won't boot missing dll and you'll get lots of hits.
[01:45] <root> When I enable beryl I get 3D but I don't get the window.  I get what is inside the window just not the part that you can drag and close the window. Do you have any Idea what might be the problem?
[01:45] <sauvin> I'm rather partial to ext3. I've heard scare stories about reiserfs but didn't have any trouble with it the few months I actually used it.
[01:45] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: i've never used the help in ubuntu.
[01:45] <dresden> ok well il use ext3 because its my linx mint (ubuntu) default
[01:45] <Lustblader> LiberCogito: gparted can't see the usb drive.. all it sees is my regular hard discs
[01:45] <perpetual> dresden, you can compare them on features. ext3 is not too good compared to say reiserfs of jfs. Everyone who knows about filesystems seems to say that SUNs zfs is the best filesystem ever made.
[01:45] <andyp_> i am useding xterm with a command  that I want the ouput to go to a file say called output what is the command
[01:45] <dresden> nice
[01:45] <howlingmadhowie> stanthefisher: yes, this is a known problem. i'll see if i can dig out the cure on ubuntuforums.org
[01:46] <dresden> i never heard of SUNs zfs, why doenst ubuntu use it default?
[01:46] <LiberCogito> Lustblader: reformat to fat32 in windows, then try it in linux.
[01:46] <sauvin> larson9999, I think that might be something else, not the FS doing it. I won't SWEAR to that, but there are any number of utilities to run, defraggers and the ilk, that can do that.
[01:46] <perpetual> dresden, zfs is not available for linux due to licensing/patent issues.
[01:46] <dresden> can windows run on FAT32???????
[01:46] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#FTP_Server
[01:46] <LiberCogito> dresden: only the devs can answer that.
[01:46] <LiberCogito> dresden: yes
[01:46] <dresden> wow that sucks about ZFS
[01:46] <Lustblader> LiberCogito: actually i don have windows now
[01:46] <dresden> can windows 2000 pro run on FAT32??????
[01:46] <faileas> dresden: as i said, yes, it can boot off, install and run on fat32
[01:46] <LiberCogito> Lustblader: google it.
[01:46] <dresden> nice
[01:46] <faileas> its not recoended tho
[01:46] <ZeroA4> dresden, it can
[01:47] <LiberCogito> dresden: yes
[01:47] <sauvin> dresden, yes, but you lose a lot of functionality in doing that.
[01:47] <dresden> sauvin what kind of functionality
[01:47] <faileas> ACLs, some speed, some efficiency
[01:47] <dresden> what are ACLs
[01:47] <perpetual> dresden, I use reiserfs with little to no problems. I once had a user who'd created 500,000 little files in one directory by accident.
[01:47] <sean> not to mention journaling
[01:47] <ZeroA4> dresden, i think even Vista can run on FAT32... but FAT32 has no suport for per user permissions
[01:47] <sauvin> Windows running on NTFS *does* have rudimentary security and permissions and suchlike that are simply not available on FAT.
[01:47] <Lustblader> LiberCogito: i chucked windows
[01:47] <dresden> wow perpetual...thats simpy...perpertual!!
[01:47] <sauvin> perpetual, that's actually said to be one of reiser's strengths: handling gazillions of small files.
[01:48] <dresden> sauvin and zeroA4, do these permissions help me at all????/ like, without NTFS will i not have password protection and such?????
[01:48] <LiberCogito> *is having tech support flashbacks*
[01:48] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  i dont fint it
[01:48] <sean> lmao @ LiberCogito
[01:48] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  i dont find it
[01:48] <faileas> dresden: yes
[01:48] <sauvin> You'll have password protection but you won't have the ability to keep Joe Sixpack out of your directories.
[01:48] <dresden> hahai  will never ever try to work for tech support or any support
[01:48] <perpetual> dresden, this was on ext3, and it took hours to clean up. Then I moved to reiserfs, created 64 million files, and deleted them in 10 seconds.
[01:48] <LiberCogito> *buzzword malformed irrelevent comment, buzzword*
[01:48] <dresden> holy shit
[01:48] <dresden> wow holy shit
[01:48] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: it's not just patent/license restrictions. zfs is also way more than just a file system. you'd have to change a lot of things to implement it.
[01:49] <perpetual> dresden, it all depends on what you are going to do with your system.
[01:49] <dresden> ouch
[01:49] <ZeroA4> dresden, them no... but if you share your computer and does not want other users to find you porn.. you will need NTFS...
[01:49] <sean> dresden, language, plz
[01:49] <PriceChild> dresden, lets watch the language please
[01:49] <dresden> i cnat believe you created 64 million files, i didnt know a HDD could handle that
[01:49] <sauvin> I think Joe Sixpack will do very nicely with the widely used and accepted exte3.
[01:49] <sauvin> ext3, that is.
[01:49] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  i find only xinetd
[01:49] <dresden> sorry is this a PG room my bad
[01:49] <dresden> G-rated what ever MY BAD
[01:49] <faileas> ZeroA4: no, you want it encrypted. ;)
[01:49] <sean> it's family friendly =] 
[01:49] <dresden> MY BAD
[01:49] <cjae_> here about the new malware for OOO
[01:50] <ZeroA4> faileas, and that too ;)
[01:50] <dresden> i will say a 2 thousand nice things in this room to compensate for my 2 words
[01:50] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: where do you find xinetd? in the synaptic package manager?
[01:50] <dresden> infact before i leave you all will think im a big fairy
[01:50] <dresden> hahah just kidding
[01:50] <sauvin> You can take your family friendly [BEEP]  and shove it up your [HONK]  and [TWEET]  it @#%%@#@TQ#%Q@#@#Y NO CARRIER
[01:50] <dresden> hahaha
[01:50] <dresden> tweet never heard that
[01:50] <dresden> "Science: an attempt to understand the world using unnecessarily long words." nice
[01:51] <Kasle> i've installed bcm43xx-fwcutter... but every time i try to install anything with apt-get, a error message occupears: error with treating bcm43xx-fwcutter error code (1) can anyone please help?
[01:51] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  yes
[01:51] <faileas> lovely
[01:51] <faileas> i hosed another wubi install
[01:51] <Chousuke> sauvin: NTFS's security is actually a bit more than "rudimentary"... it has ACLs. :/
[01:51] <faileas> how many times before i learn to BACK UP ><
[01:51] <larson9999> sauvin, err, i was just poking fun at windows.  but the problem was that sometimes windows got confused and even though the file was there and intact, it couldn't see it.  it was probably a bug that has since been resolved.  i think the real point is just dump windows unless you HAVE to have it for work.  then buy some pro stuff and be done with it.  why use a non free file system anyway?
[01:51] <cjae_> !wubi
[01:51] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[01:51] <dresden> i already forgot what ACLs means......
[01:51] <dresden> whats it mean again?
[01:51] <Chousuke> access control lists
[01:52] <dresden> ohh security right
[01:52] <Chousuke> they confuse the heck out of me, really
[01:52] <bullgard4> Can phpMyAdmin display the content of a data field of 'memo' type similar to the Microsoft Access or OO.o Base forms?
[01:52] <Chousuke> more powerful than traditional unix permissions, but much more complex.
[01:52] <dresden> i got a question, do video games (very advanced games like Total War and such) require NTFS??????/
[01:52] <sauvin> larson9999, for many applications, I agree BUT you have to bear in mind that some people really are locked into a Windows reality.
[01:52] <perpetual> dresden, why not? On a 100GB hdd you could make about 20*10^9 files with reiserfs, I think, if you make them empty and with filenames no bigger than 5 bytes (which would be enough bytes to make that many different filenames with).
[01:52] <dresden> wow holy crap
[01:52] <faileas> dresden: depends on if it has any file thats bigger than 4 gb ;)
[01:53] <dresden> good point
[01:53] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: try searching for openbsd. it should be there
[01:53] <ZeroA4> DreamThief, no. I have Rome Total War installed on a FAT drive
[01:53] <LiberCogito> perpetual: that's nice and all... but erm,  why?
[01:53] <dresden> i guess i wont install windows on FAT32 because of the 4GB problem
[01:53] <dresden> why the heck does FAT32 have a 4GB file limit?
[01:53] <sauvin> File pointer field size.
[01:53] <gordonjcp> dresden: the clue is in the title
[01:53] <giggsey> How do I upgrade feisty to gutsy?
[01:53] <sean> dresden, because 4g was huge back when fat32 came out
[01:53] <Chousuke> FAT32 was originally designed for floppies. or fat16 was
[01:53] <ZeroA4> dresden, cos is was created in 1979
[01:53] <dresden> i dont get the clue
[01:53] <gordonjcp> dresden: FAT *32*
[01:53] <dresden> hahah wow 1979
[01:53] <gordonjcp> 32 what?
[01:53] <dresden> 32 is the processor right
[01:54] <cjae_> dresden,  not to mention there is no security in fat32
[01:54] <gordonjcp> no
[01:54] <perpetual> LiberCogito, eh. well. someone asked about filesystems I suppose.
[01:54] <spectre__> perpetual: thanks I'll try another way tonight bye bye and thanks to all
[01:54] <dresden> i dont understand how there is any limit
[01:54] <faileas> Chousuke: floppies were fat12
[01:54] <faileas> no
[01:54] <gordonjcp> 32 bits
[01:54] <Chousuke> faileas: ah, right.
[01:54] <sean> fat...12?
[01:54] <Chousuke> even worse ^^;
[01:54] <stuart_> is it just me, or does upgrading the kernel screw up more than just nvidia?
[01:54] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  i find openbds-inetd
[01:54] <dresden> oh i thought fat32 was designed for 32-bit processors hehehe
[01:54] <gordonjcp> dresden: right, you need a pointer to describe where on the disk you are
[01:54] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: try reading the wikipedia article on how filesystems work
[01:54] <stuart_> at elast for ubuntu
[01:54] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: then you can install it too :)
[01:54] <sauvin> Actually, there was a FAT... and then there was a FAT12. THEN, when MS got serious about supporting something bigger than a rubber band with a magnet glued to it, they trotted out a FAT16.
[01:54] <gordonjcp> dresden: nope; you can use FAT32 on anything really
[01:54] <dresden> ok i will read about it howlingmadhowie
[01:54] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  install it?
[01:54] <larson9999> sauvin, true, when they come to me, i try to get them out of that mentality.
[01:54] <dresden> LOL sauvi
[01:54] <gordonjcp> dresden: the pointers are 32 bits long, and 2^32 is 4 billion
[01:54] <dresden> wow
[01:55] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: or if you really want to learn something about computers, i'd recommend tannenbaum "modern operating systems" as a general overview
[01:55] <dresden> makes sense
[01:55] <dresden> ok is that an online thin
[01:55] <faileas> fat32 is the swiss army knife of FS. works ok for a lot of things, works great as none ;)
[01:55] <gordonjcp> dresden: essentially once you hit the 4G mark you run out of numbers to describe where things are
[01:55] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  install it?
[01:55] <giggsey> Can I just update my sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to gutsy?
[01:55] <faileas> no, its a book
[01:55] <sauvin> larson9999, I used to have to run things like AutoCAD, Solidworks, Solid Edge, MathCAD, Pro Engineer, Unigraphics and Catia. These things are NOT all available on the same flavours of Unix (somme aren't available for Unix at ALL).
[01:55] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: if you've found openbsd-inetd, select it and then click on "install" or "apply" or whatever it's called
[01:55] <dresden> why did nobody ever upgrade FAT32 to handle larger files???????????????????????
[01:55] <Sithe> sean: still getting the same problem
[01:55] <dresden> it seems like evolutions next step
[01:55] <gordonjcp> dresden: it's like how Unix generally is going to be screwed in 2037 when the clock runs out of numbers
[01:56] <dresden> hahahaha
[01:56] <howlingmadhowie> giggsey: i think so, but there must be a guide in the ubuntu-wiki or on ubuntuforums.org
[01:56] <perpetual> giggsey, in theory yes. In practice, I encountered all kinds of problems when going from dapper -> edgy that way.
[01:56] <dresden> is that a serious actual problem gordonjcp?
[01:56] <sean> Sithe, try to do a complete removal of the fglrx driver, then follow the guide
[01:56] <faileas> dresden: cause there was no real point. NTFS was far better than FAT32, as was EXT2 and #
[01:56] <ZeroA4> dresden, cos FAT has already been upgraded soo much
[01:56] <faileas> 3
[01:56] <Sithe> sean: how do I do that?
[01:56] <dresden> i see
[01:56] <sean> synaptic again
[01:56] <giggsey> howlingmadhowie, perpetual, OKay, thanks. I'll have a bash at it. Broken system here I come XD
[01:56] <stuart-> gordonjcp, how can a clock actually run out of numbers?
[01:56] <Sithe> sean: all the green checkboxes?
[01:56] <dresden> so NTFS is the new version of FAT32, its just not friendly to other OS besides windows OK i got it
[01:56] <sean> only the ones for fglrx
[01:57] <sauvin> I actually have the suspicion that the Unix community is going to have a Y2K37 crisis right around the year 2030 and will have a fix in place in about two years.
[01:57] <faileas> stuart-: the unix epoch
[01:57] <faileas> dresden: no ;)
[01:57] <ZeroA4> dresden, yeah tipical MS way
[01:57] <Sithe> sean: how do I know if they are for fglrx or not?
[01:57] <Chousuke> hmm
[01:57] <howlingmadhowie> stuart-: depends how large the variable is which stores the time. unix uses an 4-byte int counting seconds from 01.01.1970, if i remember correctly
[01:57] <Chousuke> wasn't NTFS based on some other FS?
[01:57] <stuart-> faileas, googable? it's a famous topic, i assume?
[01:57] <faileas> NTFS is a modern file system, with journalling, ACLs etc
[01:57] <Chousuke> was it HPFS?
[01:57] <sean> dresden, ntfs is NewTechnology Filesystem, originally developed for Win NT, but not released to 2k and xp...
[01:57] <sauvin> I'm still not clear on where NTFS is in the scheme of things; am I to understand that NTFS operates atop a FAT core?
[01:57] <sean> it's NOT at all FAT
[01:57] <faileas> stuart: wiki
[01:57] <Chousuke> sauvin: no.
[01:57] <faileas> nope
[01:57] <Kasle> !bcm43xx
[01:57] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[01:57] <ZeroA4> Chousuke, yeah but HPFS was based on fat i think
[01:57] <LiberCogito> faileas: everything is googleable.
[01:57] <FloydFanWork> guys, been trying to install ubuntu and the installation is as slow as my grandma(r.i.p) and it just dont work
[01:57] <dresden> so i guess they completely reinvented the wheel with NTFS huh
[01:58] <Chousuke> ZeroA4: Hmmh.
[01:58] <sean> sauvin, no, ntfs is not fat
[01:58] <Sithe> sean: how do I know if its part of fglrx?
[01:58] <dresden> lol floyd
[01:58] <npnufu> what is a good dns cache server.
[01:58] <sean> it's a totally new fs base
[01:58] <sauvin> Correct. NTFS is an MSDOS flavour of HPFS, which is what OS/2 used.
[01:58] <Chousuke> NTFS is actually a pretty good filesystem
[01:58] <faileas> dresden: more like replaced a prop with a jet engine ;)
[01:58] <perpetual> giggsey, my worst problem was that I had made my /var on a separate 512MiB partition, which in ubuntu is way too small. During an upgrade, ubuntu puts all downloaded packages somewhere in /var, and that can be several GiB
[01:58] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: lots of people have created new, interesting file systems
[01:58] <npnufu> I am using Feisty.
[01:58] <sean> do a search for fglrx
[01:58] <faileas> sauvin: NT, not dos
[01:58] <sauvin> I don't know anything about HPFS, though, either.
[01:58] <giggsey> Okay
[01:58] <dresden> ahh i see
[01:58] <Sithe> sean: i did that
[01:58] <faileas> NO dos based OS has native NT support
[01:58] <sauvin> No, DOS used FAT, period.
[01:58] <faileas> *NTFS
[01:58] <sean> like WinFS is a reiser re-write ;)
[01:58] <sean> lmao
[01:58] <larson9999> sauvin, yeah, my approach is if you have to have windows only apps, go back to windows.  i haven't found ANY reason outside of work.  and for work, i'll use whatever they pay me for.  i have no use for windows on linux and think it detracts from the issue.  not using windows only apps in favor of linux apps is the best imo.
[01:59] <Sithe> sean: I DID THAT NOW WHAT?
[01:59] <twosouls82> there are dos drivers for win98 though
[01:59] <dresden> can somebody give me a good down-to-earth easy-to-understand analagy of how a filesystem works necessarily (formatting/formatted/whatever)???
[01:59] <faileas> the NT family of OSes are architecturally VERY different fro dos... though, they didn't use mose of the neat features, like subsystems
[01:59] <twosouls82> s/dos/ntfs/
[01:59] <sean> now follow the guide i sent you to reinstall, and try that...
[01:59] <sean> fglrx driver was tricky for me at first, and it's kinda picky sometimes
[01:59] <sauvin> larson9999, at home, I can do whatever the hell I want, which is why I'm using ubuntu and ZERO MS software. The workplace reality is very different.
[01:59] <taxman> dresden: in few enough lines for IRC? Not sure that's posible
[01:59] <dresden> ok
[01:59] <ZeroA4> there is NTFS4DOS... but is a extra program
[01:59] <|GaiJin|> Anyone using Ubuntu to transfer music to a Sony Ericsson Mobile??
[01:59] <perpetual> dresden, probably not in this channel, and not in a few words. Filesystems are hard, like higher mathematics.
[02:00] <taxman> dresden: Wikipedia's filesystem article perhaps?
[02:00] <Sithe> sean: I haven't uninstalled yet. How do I know what is fglrx.. just remove anything I have that comes up when I search fglrx?
[02:00] <faileas> dresden: a file system is like a index card. it says X is here. Y is there. a journaled file system also keeps track of what moved where. ACLs are like locks anc keys ;)
[02:00] <chenchen> what i can use to delete all folder named CVS?
[02:00] <dresden> ok taxman if thats a good article il read it
[02:00] <chenchen> what command i can use to delete all folder named CVS?
[02:00] <sauvin> it's also very different for Joe Sixpack who buys a computer at Walmart and doesn't know the difference between Windows, and Linux, and a bag full of used cat litter.
[02:00] <dresden> most wiki stuff confuses the crap out of me
[02:00] <sean> nope, just the driver, and anything that SAYS fglrx Sithe
[02:00] <LiberCogito> dresden: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FComparison_of_file_systems&ei=M1O8RtKHFIL8gQT9oczyCg&usg=AFQjCNE8mpwdO8nW1BTBKsluCLzsf8aKjA&sig2=5_EdGe84chFTz3LiAIQpgw
[02:00] <dresden> thanks faileas
[02:00] <Sithe> sean: alrighty
[02:00] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: a file system basically needs to have two things: a way of storing stuff on disk and a way to keep tables so it can tell the operating system what's stored on disk
[02:00] <dv_> hello
[02:00] <dresden> thanks LiberCogito
[02:00] <FloydFanWork> i did a modprobe piix at theshell it drops me too and when the desktop starts its tottaly slow and unusable\
[02:00] <perpetual> dresden, how old are you? Still in school?
[02:00] <larson9999> sauvin, yep, and for work, i don't want to monkey around trying things on platforms they weren't meant for.  that's my point.
[02:00] <dv_> is it possible for me to set QoS?
[02:00] <dresden> im 28
[02:00] <perpetual> dresden, oh sorry.
[02:00] <dv_> for example, I am listening to internet radio,
[02:01] <dresden> imnot big into computers but im beginning to think its pretty cool
[02:01] <gcostello> chenchen: find . -name CVS -print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf
[02:01] <dresden> im not offended at all man i wish i was in school
[02:01] <dv_> and want to make sure the player gets at least 10kb/s
[02:01] <dresden> GOD those schoolgirls were hot
[02:01] <faileas> sauvin: i'd almost want to say joe sixpack wouldn't be on IRC, but i' sure i'm wrong ;)
[02:01] <sauvin> What's QoS?
[02:01] <dresden> man i wish iwas in school i miss the schoolgirls
[02:01] <dv_> at the expense of other apps
[02:01] <rola> hi
[02:01] <FloydFanWork> quality od service
[02:01] <faileas> wuality of service
[02:01] <faileas> *quality
[02:01] <Sithe> sean: should I remove the configuration files too?
[02:01] <FloydFanWork> of*
[02:01] <FloydFanWork> lol
[02:01] <sean> Sithe, yes plz
[02:01] <sean> it may be a bad config
[02:01] <perpetual> dresden, so have a reunion. Maybe some are still attractive.
[02:01] <dv_> (it doesnt matter if a download goes at 300 or 290kb/s, but it does matter if the inetradio stutters or not)
[02:01] <dresden> hahah gross
[02:02] <chenchen> gcostello, thanks
[02:02] <gnuskool> dredsen, computers r cool, know what, these days its not even geeky to be know em, its worth money
[02:02] <dresden> i am not going to reunions i seen that crap on TV lol
[02:02] <dresden> yeah i wish i was smart like some people here about computers
[02:02] <npnufu> does any one know about pdnsd?
[02:02] <howlingmadhowie> everybody seems to be having difficulties typinq qality of service? i mean, what's so difficult about typing qualiy of surface? it's easy really: qualle ob cervix
[02:02] <faileas> lol
[02:02] <perpetual> dresden, of course hitting on schoolgirls now may get you in trouble ;-)
[02:02] <sauvin> dresden, I've been tinkering with computers since before your father boinked you into existence.
[02:02] <dresden> yup
[02:02] <IdleOne> howlingmadhowie, lol
[02:02] <FloydFanWork> hahah  true
[02:02] <dresden> hahah nice sauvin
[02:02] <dresden> boinked hahaha
[02:03] <npnufu> it is a dns cache server.   Does it preserves the cache even on a system crash.
[02:03] <gnuskool> dredsen, u proly get more sunshine than most dont worry
[02:03] <rola> FROZEN BUBBLE???????!!!!???
[02:03] <jamiejcumbria> Any one tell me which module to load for cmedia 8738. As my kernel is not loading it but its self.
[02:03] <IdleOne> !offtopic
[02:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:03] <dresden> hahah
[02:03] <twosouls82> gnuskool: lol
[02:03] <Jeb> hey - does anyone know of a good bandwidth monitor which has a graphical interface and gives data for the past hour/day/week/month for ubuntu?
[02:03] <dresden> man i love kids though, i wish i were kid again
[02:03] <jamiejcumbria> Sorry audio cm8738
[02:03] <dresden> being a kid is so much fun
[02:03] <sauvin> cmedia 8738? That's... pretty old.
[02:03] <perpetual> Jeb, ethereal, mrtg
[02:03] <dresden> these kids these days are retards trying to grow up so fast (yes, deliberate offense to you kids who want to grow up)
[02:03] <bullgard4> Can phpMyAdmin display the content of a data field of 'memo' type similar to the Microsoft Access or OO.o Base forms?
[02:04] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  is the same ...
[02:04] <IdleOne> !offtpic | dresden
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtpic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <gnuskool> dredsen, evolution has speeded up
[02:04] <dresden> lol
[02:04] <IdleOne> !offtopic | dresden
[02:04] <ubotu> dresden: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:04] <Jeb> perpetual: thanks :)
[02:04] <sauvin> bullgard4, that question might be better put in #mysql :\
[02:04] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: yep, no one tells you what it's like when you grow up. they're all "driving license", "drinking", "other stuff i can't mention on a family friendly channel", "sex", "prison time". yeah sure. but it's not all fun and games.
[02:04] <dresden> whats idleone mean
[02:04] <larson9999> sauvin, the kids these days(starting from 1) with be able to say at 40, "i've been messing around with computers for 97.5% of my life.
[02:04] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  ProFTPd is started from inetd.
[02:05] <dresden> hahah howlingmadhowie you can do most of that stuff as you are still growing up
[02:05] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: where do you get this message?
[02:05] <faileas> lol
[02:05] <LiberCogito> Hey, I like being grown up.
[02:05] <IdleOne> dresden, I mean lets keep the chat in here support related. if you wanna chitchat type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:05] <faileas> i started when i was like 5 ;p
[02:05] <bullgard4> sauvin: I did not know this channel. I will give it a try.
[02:05] <dresden> ok
[02:05] <neumind> howlingmadhowie: from terminal
[02:05] <LiberCogito> I can buy my own booze and eat vanilla frosting and white wine for breakfast and no one bitches.
[02:05] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: and when does it say that?
[02:05] <neumind> howlingmadhowie: from terminal, when i want restart proft
[02:06] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: try /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
[02:06] <faileas> ...
[02:06] <faileas> i'd kill for a coke right now. damn cold turkrying from softdrinks ><
[02:06] <dresden> yup
[02:06] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  the same
[02:07] <perpetual> Question: How do I make gnome-screensaver span two monitors, instead of displaying two separate screensavers on each monitor? I use nvidia drivers with twinview.
[02:07] <dresden> ext4 is the new better ext3 right? why did ubuntu use ext3 and not ext4????/
[02:07] <IdleOne> sauvin, np and thank you
[02:07] <FloydFanWork> so nobody here had a probly with a dreadfully slow and painfull install of ubuntu? seems pretty common on googl
[02:07] <perpetual> dresden, it is not finished yet.
[02:07] <dresden> perpetual did you try going into terminal and typing nvidia-settings
[02:07] <dresden> thanks perpetual
[02:07] <faileas> cause EXT4 isn't ready yet
[02:08] <dresden> oh sorry i didnt know you were talking about screensavers
[02:08] <dresden> man i recommend you just have your monitor turn off
[02:08] <Sithe> sean: still getting the same thing
[02:08] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: let me get this straight. you have just entered "sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart" and the message came "proftpd is started from inetd"?
[02:08] <LiberCogito> FloydFanWork: Ive installed ubuntu on 5 different computers, including a laptop multiple times and never had an issue with an install.
[02:09] <FloydFanWork> well.. its veryyy slow and buggy for me
[02:09] <perpetual> dresden, I think the issue is with gnome-screensaver. nvidia drivers work perfectly, with twinview (dual screen) and compiz-fusion.
[02:09] <LiberCogito> FloydFanWork: Well, except for when I installed it on the box with a 533Mhz processor... but that wasnt ubuntu's fault.
[02:09] <larson9999> FloydFanWork, depending on your system, there maybe some problems.  for my money, the most pain free install comes from following http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[02:09] <dresden> yeah perpetual i cant help but i didnt know people still use screensavers
[02:09] <FloydFanWork> no i got a well speced pc
[02:09] <perpetual> dresden, it's the pretty pictures.
[02:09] <dresden> hahahah nice
[02:10] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  no, i have entered sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart and then came that message
[02:10] <Sithe> sean: Im still getting the same error
[02:11] <ardi> jkjjoljlj;
[02:11] <perpetual> bye
[02:11] <dresden> does anybody have any advice to prevent data loss on my HDD??????
[02:11] <ZeroA4> dresden, keep them off!
[02:11] <dresden> like using md5's or some thing
[02:11] <zipper> How do one specify the server port in xchat?
[02:11] <IdleOne> dresden, good backups
[02:11] <FloydFanWork> did that.. did everything. I'm at work now soo i cant remember the errors i was recieving. but I would boot the cd(take forever) and it would drop me to a shell. Somthing about job contrreol being turned off..(MAYBE)
[02:11] <dresden> hahaha i have LOTS of GBs of stuff zero
[02:11] <larson9999> dresden, backup
[02:11] <howlingmadhowie> neumind: understandably. could you try entering: sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
[02:12] <dresden> it would take me days to back up all my files to DVDs
[02:12] <tatters> my screen svaer show me a pictire of my desktop and allows me interact with it as though it were a desktop
[02:12] <neumind> howlingmadhowie:  i try
[02:12] <anto9us> how would I go about upgrading openoffice to 2.2.1 in feisty?
[02:12] <tatters> hng on it is me desktop :/
[02:12] <dresden> is there a program or something that will preverse data integrity on mirrored HDD or some thing similar?? i dont want to burn DVDs all the time
[02:12] <IdleOne> zipper, /server irc.newnetwork.com PORT#
[02:12] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: how would md5sums help?
[02:12] <larson9999> dresden, if you're not willing to backup, get ready for data loss.
[02:12] <dresden> md5s just to let me know if i start losing data i dunno
[02:12] <dresden> can i back up to other HDD?
[02:12] <Sithe> sean: I have 7 xorg.conf.gflrx backups in my X11 folder
[02:12] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: i bought a streamer off e-bay for 20 euros. it's pretty good for keeping data safe :)
[02:12] <zipper> IdleOne, great, thanks
[02:12] <sean> Sithe, same prob still??
[02:13] <dresden> whats a streamer?
[02:13] <Sithe> sean: yes
[02:13] <dresden> howldingmadhowie whats a streamer
[02:13] <sean> gr.
[02:13] <dresden> can i get a link
[02:13] <larson9999> anto9us, i always run the version from the ooo site vs the version in ubuntu.  i use alien to convert the rpms and then install the debs.  works well for me ymmv
[02:13] <ZeroA4> dresden, backup can be just a spare copy... you can backup to anything that you can copy a file.
[02:13] <dresden> ok
[02:13] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: a tape drive. nowadays they hold about 50GB on a single tape. takes a while to read and write of course, but they're incredibly safe
[02:13] <anto9us> larson9999: ok, I'll give that a go, thanks
[02:13] <dresden> but i thought tapes were old and NOT safe
[02:13] <dresden> tapes are ancient!
[02:14] <sauvin> They're also still commonly used for backups.
[02:14] <ZeroA4> dresden, old tapes are not safe... news ones are
[02:14] <dresden> sauvin i have a really big USB HDD , but i thought all HDD are at serious risk??
[02:14] <larson9999> dresden, that's the whole point of making backups.  no media is safe.
[02:14] <sauvin> Not for temporary storage.
[02:14] <sauvin> larson is right, though, even CD is friable.
[02:14] <Sithe> sauvin wanna help sean?
[02:14] <dresden> yeah thats my problem: i want a permanent data storage solution
[02:15] <sean> yeah, sauvin, any ideas?
[02:15] <gnuskool> dredsen, just like books are only as good as readers, same systems only as reliable as user
[02:15] <dresden> yeah ive had CDs fail over time by sitting in a cabinent over the years...pisses me off
[02:15] <sauvin> sean, what's up?
[02:15] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: have a look here: http://www.sun.com/storagetek/tape_storage/tape_libraries/sl8500/
[02:15] <dresden> hahah sauvin
[02:15] <dresden> ok
[02:15] <sean> sauvin, it's with Sithe, not me ;)
[02:15] <larson9999> dresden, store it in boulders.  the capacity isn't high but it'll likely be around for centuries.
[02:15] <dresden> hahahahahahahahaha
[02:15] <dresden> im looking at this modular libray howlingmadhowie
[02:15] <dresden> how big is this thing?
[02:15] <sauvin> Sithe's GL problem? I'm not expert with it.
[02:16] <mattycoze> hey ppl can someone help me use the program tcpdump with ubuntu
[02:16] <jeek> !bcm43xx
[02:16] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[02:16] <sean> it's an fglrx problem
[02:16] <sauvin> What's the problem with it?
[02:16] <Sithe> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:16] <Sithe> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[02:16] <Sithe> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[02:16] <Sithe> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:16] <Sithe> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[02:16] <mattycoze> sauvin were you talking to me?
[02:16] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: it can store up to 150PB (150 million GB)
[02:16] <dresden> holy shit
[02:16] <dresden> SORRY
[02:16] <Sithe> what can hold that much?
[02:17] <tatters> thats nearly as much as gmail gives ya
[02:17] <dresden> this media libray, it must be physically huge>?
[02:17] <sauvin> Sithe, I gave you a link to a site for this kind of thing... you didn't read it?
[02:17] <mattycoze> sorry 150PB!???!!
[02:17] <dresden> is this thing like the size of a room howlingmadhowie
[02:17] <Sithe> sauvin ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:17] <larson9999> tatters, i heard gmail is going to 9gb?  i'm still just under 3
[02:17] <ZeroA4> PetaByte Baby!
[02:17] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: it's about 50 meters long and weighs about 110 tonnes in the top configuration
[02:17] <dresden> HOLY CRAP
[02:17] <mattycoze> larson9999 that's true
[02:17] <dresden> i cant buy that
[02:17] <sauvin> yea. PB. I think that means "peta". That's beyond "tera' and beyond "beva", iirc. That's... FREAKING HUGE.
[02:17] <dresden> its too phsyically large
[02:18] <mattycoze> larson9999 to compete with yahoo i think?
[02:18] <dresden> i cant take that thing around with me hahaha
[02:18] <IdleOne> !language | dresden
[02:18] <ubotu> dresden: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:18] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: it's unlikely you could afford it either :)
[02:18] <dresden> i can spend 200 bucks on it no prb but its too big
[02:18] <Sithe> sean sauvin should I jsut re-install linux?
[02:18] <mattycoze> that's a lot of porn btw
[02:18] <dresden> oh i see its listen in 200 THOUSAND
[02:18] <larson9999> if you could afford that you don't need backups.  just hire guys to recreate the files if you lose them
[02:18] <sauvin> Truth is, this 320GB USB I just bought is taking quite a while to fill up.
[02:18] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: try about 20 million dollars for the top version
[02:18] <dresden> wow i was actualyl considering buying it, i thought it was 200.00 hahaha
[02:18] <sean> it's what i usually do at this point
[02:18] <sauvin> Sithe, re-installing won't help.
[02:18] <IdleOne> !coc | dresden
[02:18] <ubotu> dresden: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:19] <dresden> i said sorry iwas an accident idleone
[02:19] <dresden> stop harrassing me please idleone
[02:19] <Sithe> sauvin orly
[02:19] <Javid> is there a provision for emergency tequila parties because i feel that is an important factor
[02:19] <Sithe> !coc | dresden
[02:19] <ubotu> dresden: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:19] <IdleOne> dresden, start reading the links ubotu gives you
[02:19] <dresden> ................
[02:19] <Javid> lol coc lol
[02:19] <dresden> i said sorry ok
[02:19] <dresden> !coc IdleOne
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coc idleone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <Sithe> AHAHA
[02:20] <Sithe> owned
[02:20] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: it's because you swear every now and then. if you didn't, they wouldn't send you the links
[02:20] <dresden> i said sorry it was accident
[02:20] <tatters> plz every one enough with coc's
[02:20] <Sithe> !coc | dresden
[02:20] <sauvin> They'll NEVER get me to quit [BEEP]  swearing!
[02:20] <ubotu> dresden: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:20] <dresden> !coc | Sithe
[02:20] <ubotu> Sithe: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:20] <dresden> !coc | IdleOne
[02:20] <ubotu> IdleOne: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:20] <FloydFan> well ubotu doesnt no abour coc?
[02:20] <Javid> !coc | internet
[02:20] <ubotu> internet: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:20] <IdleOne> !botabuse
[02:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:20] <dresden> !stop harrassing me |IdleOne
[02:20] <Sithe> ALRIGHT STOP
[02:21] <mattycoze> !uboto | coc
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <dresden> i said sorry OK i am new here
[02:21] <larson9999> guess i'll go to work
[02:21] <codesnik_> hello
[02:21] <mattycoze> !coc | ubotu
[02:21] <ubotu> ubotu: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:21] <dresden> im used to AOL thats all i used computers for for like 5 years
[02:21] <Sithe> LOL!
[02:21] <mattycoze> lol
[02:21] <IdleOne> dresden, you are acting like a 5 year old. read the rules, follow them or go away
[02:21] <dresden> you are harrassing me like a child
[02:21] <gordonjcp> ok, everyone shut up with the !coc plzkthxbye
[02:21] <mattycoze> can we kick ubotu?
[02:21] <pvh_sa|wrk> hey, i'm trying to figure out the log rotation settings in ubuntu - i see a comment that syslog does log rotation?? but i can't see any settings in /etc/syslog.conf
[02:21] <dresden> do you get off on this please stop dragging this on IdleOne
[02:22] <sauvin> dresden, you DO understand that IdleOne probably has the means to enforce the rules?
[02:22] <dresden> i apologised the 15th time you did it
[02:22] <Javid> we are tired of hearing about your coc ok
[02:22] <Frack-Hesse> hello everyone
[02:22] <mattycoze> lol
[02:22] <Sithe> Yeah we are tired of hearing about your COCK
[02:22] <Frack-Hesse> zomg
[02:22] <faileas> erm, guts, chill?
[02:22] <Javid> lol cocks :giggle:
[02:22] <IdleOne> Sithe, that didnt help
[02:22] <Frack-Hesse> !
[02:22] <Sithe> Ilde0ne sowry
[02:22] <Sithe> eww
[02:22] <Sithe> i mispelled it
[02:22] <codesnik_> i have some files corrupted, looks like there was corrupted something in my package system. now every time i'm installing some package via apt-get, it says it's "unverified"
[02:22] <larson9999> oh boy. i usually hate the OT nazis but maybe we need one now.
[02:22] <howlingmadhowie> hey, everybody. this is a help forum, okay. so just drop it
[02:22] <faileas> guys, if tis alright, cut out the juvinile macho usage of swearwords? please?
[02:22] <dresden> idleone why do you only harass me when other people make mistakes and they dont apologise like i do??
[02:23] <Sithe> sauvin would you like to send me that link again?
[02:23] <sean> kk now that this has turned into a circus, i'm out. peace kidz
[02:23] <sauvin> codesnik, would that maybe just be checksum mismatch errors?
[02:23] <codesnik_> where i can get signatures for default ubuntu repositories?
[02:23] <faileas> codesnik: added any repos and not their GPG key?
[02:23] <Sithe> NO SEAN
[02:23] <Sithe> NOOO
[02:23] <Sithe> OMFG
[02:23] <Jeb>  hey - does anyone know of a good bandwidth monitor which has a graphical interface and gives data for the past hour/day/week/month for ubuntu?  i've looked at ethereal and mrtg but they're not quite what i'm after - i used http://www.netlimiter.com/ when I was on windows but the actual traffic shaping part of it wasn't that important - any suggestions?
[02:23] <Sithe>  /cry
[02:23] <sipior> pvh_sa|wrk: syslogd doesn't do rotation itself, i believe. you'll want the logrotate package for that
[02:23] <FloydFan> holy **** THIS IS A SUPPORT CHANNEL.. PEOPLE NEED SUPPORT!! STOP FILLING IT UP WITH CRAP
[02:23] <IdleOne> dresden, go ahead and do what you like. sooner or later you will find yourself with a shiny new ubuntu machine and no one to help you because you will be banned
[02:23] <codesnik_> sauvin: i think it just PGP keys that are missing now
[02:23] <Javid> Does anyone know how to kill this dumb orange fish?
[02:24] <dresden> IdleOne why are you continually harrassing me
[02:24] <pvh_sa|wrk> jeb: what feature are you looking for that mrtg didn't have?
[02:24] <dresden> Please stop
[02:24] <gordonjcp> dresden: drop it
[02:24] <tatters> cacti
[02:24] <dresden> you know what im leaving OK
[02:24] <Frack-Hesse> i installed (k)ubuntu 6.06.1 on my pc, if i want to "get up" to feisty, a simple "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" would do, right? :x
[02:24] <codesnik_> sauvin: but i dunno where i can get em or where i should place em
[02:24] <dresden> il come back some other time
[02:24] <Sithe> does IRC ban your MAC address?
[02:24] <gordonjcp> dresden: ignore him and he'll go away
[02:24] <IdleOne> !ops dresden  refuse to stay on topic
[02:24] <tatters> !cacti
[02:24] <dresden> thank you all the for help
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cacti - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: IdleOne: just drop it, okay?
[02:24] <Javid> BYE DRESDEN
[02:24] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: pack it in, ok
[02:24] <Selrach> is there anyway I can configure pcmanfm to display icons so I can arrange them the way I want like in rox filer?
[02:24] <dresden> bye
[02:24] <pejo_> Sithe: your MAC is private
[02:24] <pejo_> Sithe: i think
[02:24] <Sithe> pejo Blizzard bans people through MAC adresess
[02:24] <Javid> !coc | dresden
[02:24] <ubotu> dresden: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:24] <gordonjcp> !ops IdleOne is making a nuisance of himself
[02:25] <pejo_> Sithe: oo, maybe they have some spyare allowing them to see your MAC
[02:25] <pvh_sa|wrk> Sithe: Blizzard runs on your local machine
[02:25] <pejo_> spyware
[02:25] <FloydFan> yes he is
[02:25] <Sithe> pejo_ they do its called Warden
[02:25] <Hobbsee> !botabuse | dresden
[02:25] <ubotu> dresden: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:25] <pvh_sa|wrk> Sithe: but an IRC server only sees your IP address.. so it can't filter on mac
[02:25] <pejo_> Sithe: hack blizzard and steal back your mac!
[02:25] <Jeb> pvh_sa|wrk: well, i don't really know, i wanted something which was easy to use (as nl was) and not as impossible to set up...
[02:25] <pejo_> Sithe: or buy a new NIC
[02:25] <Sithe> pejo_ thats why when you try to hack on a trial acct your main acct get effed over too
[02:26] <tatters> chancge mac address
[02:26] <Juarez> Hi, could anybody say the server version is better than desktop version for domestic use?? pls
[02:26] <Hobbsee> dresden: calm down.
[02:26] <sauvin> sithe, I think this was the page that told me how to get the [BEEP]  thing working on [HONK]  Fedora Core because the [HONK]  was running like [BZZT] . https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:26] <faileas> Juarez: server is same kernel w/o a window manager i think
[02:26] <faileas> so no
[02:26] <Mas-Ganteng> ncess chia
[02:26] <gnuskool> Juarez, desktop
[02:26] <pvh_sa|wrk> jeb: cacti is fairly easy to use
[02:26] <pejo_> Sithe: yea, but there is a solution for everything, but a couple of 100 network cards
[02:26] <sauvin> Warning: I was investigating an ATI Radeon Xpress 200m.
[02:26] <pejo_> buy
[02:26] <Jeb> pvh_sa|wrk: thanks, i'll have a look :)
[02:26] <pvh_sa|wrk> jeb: web based UI, sucks info via SNMP, etc...
[02:26] <Hobbsee> dresden: it's just a quiet, so you can watch but cant talk
[02:26] <faileas> hmm
[02:26] <Sithe> sauvin: nice choice of words
[02:27] <Frack-Hesse> ._.
[02:27] <sauvin> I've already said I [tweet]  refuse to stop swearing. I just don't GIVE a fudge.
[02:27] <Hobbsee> dresden: maybe you'll learn about offtopic and how to behave in here, while you're quieted
[02:27] <pejo_> anyone know whats up with Xterm if you hit ctrl and s?
[02:27] <sauvin> pejo: what happens?
[02:27] <Juarez> faileas: ok thanks..
[02:27] <pejo_> it freezes
[02:28] <pejo_> becomes ice
[02:28] <pvh_sa|wrk> pejo_, depending on tty settings (stty for info) Ctrl-S might be the "stop" sequence
[02:28] <Jeb> pvh_sa|wrk: just tried installing and setting up mrtg, got totally lost
[02:28] <IdleOne> dresden, I was not trying to harrass you. I was giving you those links from ubotu so that you could read up and see that there are certain rules the ubuntu comunity expects it's users to follow.
[02:28] <sacater> pejo_: interesting way of putting it :P
[02:28] <Hobbsee> dresden: you're not being harrased.  calm down.
[02:28] <faileas> Juarez: personally i tend to use alternate installer, but thats cause i end up installing on fairly low end systems
[02:28] <Sithe> sauvin: should I remove my current installations?
[02:28] <sauvin> Control-S and Control-Q, when Unix was all glass TTY, were used to freeze and unfreeze scrolling.
[02:28] <pvh_sa|wrk> pejo_, to make it continue, hit Ctrl-Q (per default)
[02:28] <sipior> Hobbsee: best to message dresden privately, since the rest of us don't particularly care to hear half of your conversation
[02:28] <sauvin> Sithe, I'm REALLY tired and can't think now. Just read the page, mmkay?
[02:28] <pejo_> pvh_sa|wrk: wow! thx :)
[02:28] <Sithe> sauvin: MMMK!
[02:29] <Hobbsee> sipior: i could do that, yes.  of course, watching this channel for more offtopic behaviour is also necessary
[02:29] <gnuskool> faileas, ever encountered a AMD k6, 2 / 333MHz, with 1998 PhoenixBios??
[02:29] <pvh_sa|wrk> Jeb: i understand. unfortunately these kind of things work a bit differently in Unix ;)
[02:29] <sipior> Hobbsee: i'm sure you'll manage
[02:29] <Juarez> faileas: I cant make my festy play any sound, do hav any idea abt wht is goin on?
[02:29] <Jeb> pvh_sa|wrk: yeah, i guessed as much... :(
[02:29] <faileas> gnuskool: can you get ubuntu on it?
[02:29] <faileas> Juarez: 'fraid not
[02:30] <Juarez> faileas: some people said I hav to format and reinstal everythng again
[02:30] <dresden> i hope you all feel big and important now, im leaving ok have a good day
[02:30] <Juarez> faileas:  ok no worries
[02:30] <burzum_> hi there
[02:30] <dresden> thank you to the helpful people
[02:30] <Jeb> pvh_sa|wrk: how about something really simple which just logs the total d/l and u/l each day?  surely that can't be too difficult?
[02:30] <Shaye> Guys, I wonder... lets say there is a few IRCds process running on my server now, if I reboot the server, do they go back online automatically? or do I need to run everything again?
[02:30] <gnuskool> faileas, nah mate, got debian woody, something about bios cutoff being 2000, but ofcourse I cant find a bios update
[02:30] <Hobbsee> sipior: thanks for the vote of confidence.
[02:30] <sauvin> gnuskool, I have an AMD k6 or k7, 350 HMz with a late 90's BIOS in it floating around somewhere. There's a quesiton?
[02:30] <faileas> Juarez: when that happene with my old mandriva system thats what i did. if you backup /home you'll be ok
[02:31] <IdleOne> Shaye, you need to start them up again but you can do it auto using crons
[02:31] <sauvin> Shaye, that depends on how you have them hooked up.
[02:31] <pvh_sa|wrk> Jeb: heh, i tend to use mrtg... 'cause that's *my* "simple solution"
[02:31] <dangerko> hello guys
[02:31] <gnuskool> sauvin, yeah strugglin to get a modern bios, looked high n low, nudda
[02:31] <burzum_> is it possible to keep mails, contacts and the calendar somehow synchron between outlook and evolution or kontakt?
[02:31] <stdin> Shaye: unless they are stated by init scripts, you'll have to start them
[02:31] <pvh_sa|wrk> Jeb: but then i've been usic in different forms since 1994
[02:31] <pvh_sa|wrk> Jeb: using unix even. typos....
[02:31] <sauvin> It might be easier just to get a motherboard with newer stuff on it anyway.
[02:31] <faileas> burzum_: use IMAP if thats an option ?
[02:32] <faileas> else, set them not to delete messages from server unless (somethin) maybe
[02:32] <gnuskool> sauvin, not entirely in my range of possibilities right now, im trying to squeeze what I can onto this
[02:32] <burzum_> faileas, imap cant save the contacts and events
[02:32] <gnuskool> sauvin, know a good bios update resource site?
[02:33] <snadg3> can I install php for apache 1 on feisty?
[02:33] <pvh_sa|wrk> burzum_: imap will handle your mailbox. the calendar... not sure - share an ICS file between the different calendar apps? and contacts... heh, kinda hard. maybe use a LDAP server. but all in all, its not easy
[02:33] <dangerko> guys i have problem with ubuntu specail with screen resulotion i can fine help here?
[02:33] <dangerko> speical*
[02:33] <dangerko> find*
[02:33] <MeRodent> Is there any way to edit the grub file without logging into ubuntu?
[02:33] <Shaye> Uf... let me put it that way, how do I learn to use linux? :<, becuase I can manage to do things but i feel that I don't understand most of what i do, I just look guides and stuff like a "parrot" :)
[02:33] <IdleOne> !fixres | dangerko
[02:33] <ubotu> dangerko: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:33] <Jeb> pvh_sa|wrk: right, well, i'll try mrtg again, the problem is i want this to be simple enough for my mum to check on her laptop (we just want to work out what download limit we should get when we get our new net connection, and then to monitor how much we've used when we've got it)
[02:33] <faileas> MeRodent: grub has a minimal shell... donno how mych it does tho
[02:34] <sauvin> Shaye, that's precisely how most of us learn, I think.
[02:34] <pvh_sa|wrk> Jeb: once you have mrtg or cacti set up, its simply a webpage to check...
[02:34] <Jeb> pvh_sa|wrk: yeah, but i need to set up apache etc don't i?
[02:35] <gnuskool> Shaye, try linux from scratch, that'll show you the underbelly of the beast
[02:35] <burzum_> pvh_sa|wrk, i know :( i still had the hope that theres an easy solution... i hate MS that much for their fu... closed source *.pst format...
[02:35] <MeRodent> Any suggestions in how to launch a shell login from grub?
[02:35] <Rowan> hmm.. ill /b/rb in a bit
[02:35] <dangerko> hmm is there arabic helper here?
[02:35] <amorphous_> if I ssh -X into a remote machine, is there a way I can su to another user and still keep the Xserver running so I can open gui apps as another user?
[02:36] <pvh_sa|wrk> Jeb: yes, you need a webserver like apache
[02:36] <sauvin> What's the two-lettre country code for (say) Saudi Arabia?
[02:36] <pvh_sa|wrk> sauvin: .sa
[02:36] <Shaye> Btw, I installed ubuntu 7.04 and i choose to install the 'LAMP' ver, where is the mysql,apach, etc located in
[02:36] <sauvin> !sa | dangerko
[02:36] <ubotu> dangerko: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[02:37] <dangerko> thank you dude /bow
[02:37] <Jeb> pvh_sa|wrk: ah well, this is too difficult...  just have to leave it i guess
[02:37] <Jonatha1> how can i run commands in a script as root>
[02:37] <Sithe> sauvin still doesn't work LOL!
[02:37] <faileas> hmm...
[02:37] <Jonatha1> ?
[02:38] <pvh_sa|wrk> Jonatha1, sudo
[02:38] <faileas> !tm
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <CzarAlex> My system time is off by about 15 minutes. using CLI, how can I change/update this? Is there some command to sync with a server?
[02:38] <Jonatha1> is there anyway of using su and then run the commands as pure root?
[02:38] <Sithe> right click the clock and click adjust time and date
[02:38] <sipior> CzarAlex: ntpdate
[02:38] <howlingmadhowie> Jonatha1: sudo -i
[02:38] <mofux> hi, anyone knows how to solve a black desktop prolbem. i don't have icons on it anymore, my background image is gone and context menu on the desktop also doesn't work...
[02:38] <CzarAlex> Sithe CLI. IM not using GUI.
[02:39] <CzarAlex> sipior Lemme try that.
[02:39] <Sithe> czaralex oh
[02:39] <Jonatha1> i'll work on my script and see what happens
[02:39] <Jonatha1> thanks
[02:39] <pvh_sa|wrk> CzarAlex: ntpdate
[02:39] <Sithe> czaralex ntupdate
[02:39] <SORMANOV> hello all
[02:39] <pvh_sa|wrk> CzarAlex: and if you want to stay synced, you can switch on ntpd
[02:39] <faileas> !wubi
[02:39] <Sithe> Hi
[02:39] <CzarAlex> sipior 10 Aug 08:52:00 ntpdate[27858] : no servers can be used, exiting
[02:39] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[02:39] <sipior> CzarAlex: you'll need to tell it which server to use, of course
[02:39] <CzarAlex> sipior I see :) where can I find a list?
[02:40] <Sithe> can anyone help me with my fglrx?
[02:40] <sipior> CzarAlex: i believe ntp.ubuntu.com works
[02:40] <FloydFan>  ok.... installing ubuntu. Installatio craped out and droped me to initramfs. added "break=top" to install options, then "modeprobe piix", then "exit". Desktop boots after about 1000 years. Using install is impossibly slow and pretty much haults. Answeres?
[02:40] <CzarAlex> sipior Thanky.
[02:41] <sipior> CzarAlex: there are also regional timeservers, possibly closer to where you are, network-wise
[02:41] <sauvin> FloydFan, what are you installing from?
[02:41] <kripple> wooohoooo for ubuntu :D
[02:41] <FloydFan> fiesty on cd and alt cd
[02:41] <Jonatha1> sudo -i only works for people who can sudo, my user can't (though i know the root password)
[02:41] <CzarAlex> sipior Understood. And everything seems to be fine now. Thanks!
[02:41] <FloydFan> tryed both
[02:42] <sipior> CzarAlex: glad to help
[02:42] <akos> Hello! Does anyone know where gaim keeps its default emoticon pack? Or how could I grep some files for ":-w"? It takes -w as an argument...
[02:42] <kidbuntu> in java programming. what does mapping means. "Map" i don't fully understand the meaning of it in google. is there a laymans term for that
[02:42] <akos> I tried grep -R :-w *, but that does not work
[02:43] <sauvin> kidbuntu, the word "map" means several different things to me. Could you supply context?
[02:43] <sn> how do i install beryl themes on ubuntu
[02:44] <gcostello> kidubuntu: a map is an object that maps keys to values, cannot contain duplicate keys and each key can have at most one value
[02:44] <sauvin> gcostello, that's what a perl person would call a hash?
[02:44] <sn> can any 1 help plz
[02:44] <kidbuntu> sauvin: example this one. i'm just a newbie programmer. public static Map createProductPromoCodeSet(DispatchContext dctx, Map context)
[02:44] <gcostello> sauvin: yes
[02:44] <kripple> where can i find reference to code to search and install programs from the net
[02:44] <SORMANOV> i cant mount my sony memory stick card, dmesg tell me: [ 1641.864000]  tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:0
[02:45] <SORMANOV> how can i mount it ?
[02:45] <sauvin> kidbuntu, did you understand what gcostello said?
[02:45] <pvh_sa|wrk> SORMANOV: it should show up as a new "SCSI" drive... i.e. /dev/sda or something
[02:45] <kidbuntu> sauvin: nope. i also don't know what hash is, what's hash for. haven't even tried programming with perl
[02:46] <gcostello> kidubuntu: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/Map
[02:46] <sauvin> I know. I was asking because I don't know any java. I can explain the concept in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like.
[02:46] <Rayyan> hello lin
[02:46] <sn> sauvin can u help
[02:46] <sauvin> sn: with what?
[02:46] <lostat_C> Is there a way to add a transparent button bar that hides when not used?
[02:46] <pvh_sa|wrk> kidbuntu: sounds like you need to take a programming course. a hash is an associative array... i.e. an array where the key is a string, not a numberical index ;)
[02:46] <lostat_C> In XFCE?
[02:46] <SORMANOV> pvh_sa|wrk, it doesnt
[02:47] <kidbuntu> sauvin: you can explain it to me in that channel.
[02:47] <Rayyan> can anyone help me fix my mouse's scroll? i cant wheel click and then go up and down a window but it works perfectly on explorer
[02:47] <sauvin> pvh_sa|wrk, and for all that meant to somebody who knows no programming, you may as well have said that in German :\
[02:47] <Rayyan> on windows*
[02:47] <sn> how to i install beryl themes on ubuntu
[02:47] <kripple> how do i do an installation through terminal  ...............where do i find code ref for these kinda things
[02:47] <dgjones> !beryl | sn
[02:47] <ubotu> sn: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:48] <pvh_sa|wrk> SORMANOV: does it show up on a lsusb ?
[02:48] <frafra> hi! How to install qt4.3 on ubuntu feisty?
[02:48] <linux_> what in synaptic is like windows paint ?
[02:48] <gh0st> Hello, again.
[02:48] <Rayyan> !scroll
[02:48] <Rayyan> !mouse
[02:48] <Rayyan> :<
[02:48] <pvh_sa|wrk> linux_: gimp ?
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scroll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <swmiller6>  linux_: tux Paint
[02:48] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[02:48] <gh0st> Be right back.
[02:48] <Sithe> How do I blacklist ati-agp in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?
[02:49] <Blauhaut> how can i close desktop-effects with konsole ?
[02:49] <gordonjcp> heh, I just realised my scrolly mouse is nearly eight years old
[02:49] <linux_> swmiller6 . gimp is like photoshop i need some thing that is exactly like windows paint ?
[02:49] <kidbuntu> pvh_sa|wrk: thats the problem. i'm already taking a programming course. The school sucks on teaching thats why i'm learning on my own.
[02:49] <kripple> how do i do an installation through terminal  ...............where do i find code ref for these kinda things
[02:49] <Rayyan> hapy bday for ur mouse :P
[02:49] <linux_> /j fedora
[02:49] <Sithe> How do I blacklist ati-agp in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?
[02:49] <gnuskool> gh0st, the fact youre back cant be good news, ahha, howd it go?
[02:49] <SORMANOV> pvh_sa|wrk, no, nothing
[02:50] <swmiller6>  linux_: I suggested tux paint which is most like windows paint
[02:50] <gcostello> Sithe: just add blacklist ati-agp to the end of the file
[02:50] <Blauhaut> How can i close the desktop effects wihout x inteface, with konsole  ?
[02:50] <Sithe> gcostello ty
[02:50] <kane77> so what do I need to mount my ntfs drive as read and write
[02:50] <kane77> ?
[02:50] <Jonatha1> how can i change to root in a script? and continue executing commands as root? (my user can't sudo but can su)
[02:51] <dgjones> !ntfs-3g | kane77
[02:51] <ubotu> kane77: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:51] <gcostello> kidubuntu: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/
[02:51] <sn> i can not get gnomebacker to write cds  it just says failed   CAN ANY 1 HELP
[02:52] <sipior> kripple: if i understand you correctly, you'll want the "aptitude" command, and you can get more information from "man aptitude"
[02:52] <Blauhaut> is it posible to remove desktop-effects without removing ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:52] <Jesus> How do I get gaim-latex in ubuntu? I cannot find it in synaptic.
[02:53] <Lattyware> Can anyone help me, I'm trying to write a script to display xChat messages on the G15 keyboard's LCD screen, but I cannot find documentation on g15composer anywhere! Can anyone help?
[02:53] <kripple> sipior : thanks
[02:53] <linux_> i can remove gnome and replace it with kde ?
[02:54] <Blauhaut> linux_;  sure you can do it
[02:54] <Blauhaut> but try to use kubuntu if you want KDE
[02:54] <Blauhaut> How can i remove desktop-effects without removing ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:54] <sn> sipior can u help me with gnomebacker i can not get it 2 write 2 cds it just says writing failed
[02:55] <linux_> Blauhaut , is hard to do it ?
[02:55] <wnet> hiiii
[02:55] <sipior> sn: sorry, i'm not familiar with that program. is that the only error it gives?
[02:55] <wnet> same here
[02:55] <Blauhaut> Linux_ go download kubuntu and install it :)
[02:56] <wnet> hi rick
[02:56] <wnet> hi
[02:56] <Skiessi> hi
[02:56] <wnet> hi
[02:56] <linux_> Blauhaut , i want to keep my ubuntu i cant install onit ?
[02:57] <sipior> linux_: if you just want to try out kde, do "aptitude install kde". reinstalling would also work, but this will be easier :)
[02:57] <ketzal> how can I know where's my Grub installed? wich HD? for example: /dev/hda How can I know if my grub is installed on /dev/hda?
[02:57] <sn> does any 1 know how to a good peer to peer program on linux
[02:57] <Skiessi> does ubuntu support this? http://www.trust.com/products/default.aspx?cat=_Current&grp=TABLETS&type=12X9-INCH&item=14070
[02:57] <Jonatha1> how do i change users in a script? And Then run commands as that user?
[02:57] <Sithe> Anyone here familiar with the EE errors in Xorg.0.log?
[02:57] <chmiela> hi ;) i'm searching program just like aida for windows, do you can hel me?
[02:58] <CzarAlex> When using the command line, the results of ls don't line up in nice columns anymore. How can I change this back to the default output?
[02:58] <sn> does any1 know a good peer to peer program
[02:58] <jport> sn: frostwire
[02:58] <sipior> Skiessi: i doubt it.
[02:58] <Blauhaut> linux_;  try on console : sudo apt-get install kde
[02:58] <sn> is that a good 1 jport
[02:58] <Lattyware> Can anyone help me, I'm trying to write a script to display xChat messages on the G15 keyboard's LCD screen, but I cannot find documentation on g15composer anywhere! Can anyone help?
[02:59] <dgjones> ketzal, grub will be installed in your /boot/grub folder
[02:59] <sn> how do install in mate
[02:59] <mohandeth> hi
[02:59] <Sithe> I have (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log can someoen tell me how to fix this?
[02:59] <fulhack> Hi.. My audio playback capabilities have disappeared. I haven't used this computer in a while, but I've just now noticed I can't play audio in amarok and such. The mixer volumes are O.K.. Any ideas? :\ I also can't 'cat' to /dev/dsp.. Not sure wether I should be able to when ESD is running though.
[03:00] <eugman> Hey what is an xclient session?
[03:00] <CzarAlex> Here is an example: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33222/
[03:00] <Jonatha1> how do i change users in a script?
[03:00] <fulhack> Jonatha1, you could sudo?
[03:01] <Jonatha1> cant sudo
[03:01] <Sithe> Hey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[03:01] <kripple> hmmm how do i set myself to root in the terminal
[03:01] <Jonatha1> i know the root password so i can su
[03:01] <sipior> fulhack: do you have multiple ESDs running?
[03:01] <chmiela> hi  i'm searching program just like aida for windows, do you can help me?
[03:01] <fulhack> What about su [your user]  -C "Whatcha-wanna-run", jonath1?
[03:01] <sipior> chmiela: what does aida do?
[03:01] <Jonatha1> but when i use su the script stop
[03:01] <wnet> hi
[03:02] <fulhack> sipior, I don't believe so.. 1 sec.
[03:02] <FireHazard17> what command is it to see your uptime?
[03:02] <CzarAlex> uptime
[03:02] <kripple> *sorry guys it's been to long since i've been on ubuntu
[03:02] <kripple> hmmm how do i set myself to root in the terminal
[03:02] <kizmet> Jonatha1, visudo... Edit the conf to allow the user to sudo without a password... (highly insecure tho)
[03:02] <giggsey> sudo -u ?
[03:02] <giggsey> Just do sudo su to cheat though :P
[03:02] <FloydFan> (once more) ok.... installing ubuntu. Installatio craped out and droped me to initramfs. added "break=top" to install options, then "modeprobe piix", then "exit". Desktop boots after about 1000 years. Using install is impossibly slow and pretty much haults. Answeres?
[03:02] <FireHazard17> kripple: sudo gnome-terminal too
[03:02] <howlingmadhowie> Jonatha1: why do you want to change users in a script?
[03:03] <fulhack> sipior, No, I don't.
[03:03] <kripple> FH: thanks
[03:03] <eugman> what is an Xclient session as oppossed to Gnome or KDE
[03:03] <Jonatha1> so i can change from user "guest" to user "jonathan" and change the permisions of the folder and edit a file
[03:04] <chmiela> sipior: aida give me information about my computer (hardware etc.)
[03:04] <Jonatha1> (all in one script)
[03:04] <Sithe> Hey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this
[03:04] <FireHazard17> what is the command to see how long yer comp has been running?
[03:04] <sipior> chmiela: try "hal-device-manager". you may have to install it, i forget if it is included by default
[03:04] <dgjones> FireHazard17, uptime
[03:04] <Jonatha1> fire; uptime
[03:04] <fulhack> FireHazard17, "uptime"
[03:04] <FireHazard17> oh
[03:04] <Jonatha1> lol
[03:04] <FireHazard17> sorry
[03:04] <fulhack> ;)
[03:05] <Sithe> Hey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[03:05] <Jonatha1> 3 at once
[03:05] <chmiela> ok, thanks ;)
[03:05] <Jonatha1> anyhelp?
[03:05] <FireHazard17> dogmeat: banned
[03:05] <FireHazard17> dogmeat: sorry wrong
[03:05] <donkeyrape> Can I put my NTFS partition as the home folder for vsftpd? How do I do that? I didn't find anything in vsftpd.conf
[03:05] <FireHazard17> donkeyrape: banned
[03:05] <CzarAlex> When I list the contents of a directory using the command line using ls, the formatting is off. How do I restore the default setting where the nice columns are used? Here is an example of my current output. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33222/
[03:05] <dissection> Uh, sorry
[03:05] <howlingmadhowie> Jonatha1: i think the classical method would be to have a script which can only be run by root
[03:05] <FireHazard17> dissection: its fine
[03:06] <Sithe> Hey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[03:06] <dissection> Yeah, so, can I put my NTFS partition as the home folder for vsftpd? How do I do that? I didn't find anything in vsftpd.conf
[03:06] <t94xr> FireHazard17: LOL banning the wrong people?
[03:06] <Jonatha1> i will need to be able to run this script as non root though
[03:06] <Aye|> Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..
[03:06] <FireHazard17> lol
[03:06] <bentob0x> when you uninstall a software, what's the command to make sure it takes away all config files also?
[03:06] <FireHazard17> t94xr: banned for questioning my banning
[03:06] <sipior> Jonatha1: might be simpler just to have the two users in the same group, and modify permissions on the file so that no user change is necessary
[03:06] <FireHazard17> :p
[03:06] <t94xr> LOL
[03:06] <t94xr> sure
[03:06] <Sithe> Hey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[03:07] <null02> can someone help me configure grub to do a dual boot?
[03:07] <dgjones> !dualboot | null02
[03:09] <ubotu> null02: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[03:09] <gcostello> bentob0x: aptitude purge $packagename
[03:09] <sipior> CzarAlex: "unalias ls", then try gain
[03:09] <Sithe> Hey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[03:09] <Jonatha1> i need to have the file readerable at some-points and at others un-readable though
[03:09] <Aye|> !graphics card boot
[03:09] <Aye|> nope
[03:09] <CzarAlex> sipior bash: unalias: ls: not found
[03:09] <FireHazard17> moo
[03:09] <howlingmadhowie> Jonatha1: the problem you have is that su automatically starts a subshell
[03:09] <kripple> guys how come ubuntu isn't downloading packages and installing them it keeps saying  >"couldn't find package vlc"
[03:09] <FloydFan> Is there any other method of installing ubuntu besides using live cd and alt-install, like instal from hard drive?
[03:09] <Sithe> Hey I have: (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI in my Xorg.0.log how can I fix this?
[03:09] <Jonatha1> thats true
[03:09] <sipior> CzarAlex: odd. how did you change the default listing then?
[03:09] <CzarAlex> sipior I was trying to backup an mysql database but forgot to specifty a file to dump it to, so the text was all up on the screen. To abort, I did Ctrl+C and now the ls is borked.
[03:09] <fulhack> '/dev'dsp' is busy, and 'lsof /dev/dsp' shows no processes.. How do I know what's hogging /dev/dsp?
[03:09] <null02> Im installed ubuntu on a fakeraid but I cant get it to show the grub menu
[03:09] <sipior> CzarAlex: try "stty sane" and then ls
[03:09] <gcostello> Sithe: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[03:09] <Jonatha1> qnd i need the rest of the commands to be run in that subshell
[03:09] <Jonatha1> *and
[03:09] <CzarAlex> sipior no change.
[03:09] <howlingmadhowie> Jonatha1: have a look at "man su" in particular the "-c" optino
[03:10] <sipior> CzarAlex: but if you open another terminal, it displays fine, right?
[03:10] <Shaye> apt-get install tcl, will install me the latest ver of tcl?
[03:10] <dissection> Anyone here uses vsftpd?
[03:10] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: i do :)
[03:10] <CzarAlex> sipior Yes. another terminal window is fine.
[03:10] <Shaye> dissection i do ;D
[03:10] <dissection> howlingmadhowie, Shaye, how do I specify a directory other than /home/ftp? I didn't find anything in vsftpd.conf
[03:11] <CzarAlex> sipior i. uh.. closed off the ssh program, restarted it, and now it works fine?
[03:11] <sipior> CzarAlex: well, terminals get b0rked sometimes :) probably just easiest to start fresh in another.
[03:11] <Shaye> u mean the 'start' directory?
[03:11] <Jonatha1> The thing is, is that i will be running multiple commands and don't want to repetivly type the password
[03:11] <CzarAlex> sipior haha Thanks! *facepalms*
[03:11] <Hoxzer> how can I make deb out of source got with "Apt-get source"
[03:11] <dissection> Shaye: I mean the default directory that the user sees when he log into my ftp
[03:11] <genii> On return from tty1 to X with alt-f7 getting blank white screen. ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't help neither does restart of kdm/gdm. Monitor is not PNP. X is using i810 driver. Any ideas appreciated
[03:11] <Jonatha1> and i need to run an if/else to validate the user (this script will be run by linux newbies)
[03:11] <gcostello> Sithe: try to run: sudo modprobe fglrx
[03:12] <bentob0x> thx gcostello
[03:12] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: set a different home directory for ftp in /etc/passwd ? that would be my first approach
[03:12] <Sithe> Okay
[03:12] <Sithe> gcostello: FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
[03:12] <Aye|> Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..
[03:12] <bentob0x> I always used apt-get instead of aptitude and I installed apache and apache2 which I want to clear both perfectly before reinstalling apache2
[03:13] <bentob0x> but as I installed apache and apache2 with apt-get, I think aptitude can't find what to purge
[03:13] <sipior> bentob0x: safest just to purge with apt-get, surely?
[03:13] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: It shows this... ftp:x:113:65534::/home/ftp:/bin/false <-- Do i change /home/ftp or /bin/false, or both?
[03:13] <Shaye> how would u install the latest tcl version
[03:13] <Sithe> gcostello: FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
[03:14] <gcostello> Sithe: try this link - http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[03:14] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: change /home/ftp. the /bin/false just means that you can't log in as the user ftp
[03:14] <linux_> someone know about SONY PLAY STATION 1 EMULATOR in linux ?
[03:14] <howlingmadhowie> !pastebin
[03:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:14] <gh0st> Gnuskool: Well, last night (I'm in school right now), I came to the conclusion to get rid of the partitions I made and start over. Bad idea?
[03:15] <Sonic1> Is anyone running on the Alpha build of Gutsy Gibbon?
[03:15] <Lattyware> Sonic1: Yeah
[03:15] <Sonic1> Lattyware, is it stable?
[03:15] <Bosambo> Ok...I TOTALLY messed up...can anyone tell me why aptitude would suggest I uninstall several essential packages?
[03:15] <pawan> hi
[03:15] <dresden> guys i connected my USB HDD (NTFS) and i try to write to it and it wont let me because of permissions, and i cant change permissions!!! help!!!
[03:15] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d5e2fa4b3 dpkg error
[03:15] <jrib> Bosambo: what did you ask it to do?
[03:16] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: I just tried that and now it won't connect anymore
[03:16] <pawan> !hi
[03:16] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:16] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > dresden (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:16] <ben__> dresden> you need NTFS-3g
[03:16] <howlingmadhowie> Jonatha1: have a look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33224/
[03:16] <aaron> !hi
[03:16] <dresden> ok
[03:16] <dresden> thanks
[03:16] <dresden> its just a package right?
[03:16] <lasse__> woho -- vacation time! :) enjoy yourself guyes :)
[03:16] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: have you sighuped the ftp daemon?
[03:16] <boris_> hey is any1 here ?
[03:16] <boris_> please respond im checking my net connection
[03:16] <kidbuntu> !beryl
[03:16] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:16] <Aye|> Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..
[03:16] <linux_> !compiz
[03:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:17] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: I don't know. But before I did an online test and it connected to the FTP successfully and got the welcome message.
[03:17] <dresden> thanks bye guys
[03:17] <ben__> I've just removed the default movie player and added VLC. How do I change the filetype associations for movies to VLC?
[03:17] <jrib> Sonic1: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy.  You shouldn't use it as your main machine.  It's bound to be broken sometimes even if it is ok now
[03:17] <kripple> OK how do i add a url for a program to download to  the list it looks at to get the package address so they can be dled
[03:17] <kidbuntu> !beryl
[03:17] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:17] <Lattyware> Sonic1: Seems so for me, obviously it's subjective.
[03:17] <tranmanhtri> hello everybody
[03:17] <Jonatha1> i'll see if it helps
[03:17] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: if you don't get directed to the new $HOME of ftp when you log in to the vsfptd, try first: /etc/vsftpd restart
[03:17] <jrib> kripple: what list?
[03:18] <kripple> well i want to install vlc  but it can't find the package
[03:18] <tranmanhtri> where are you living?
[03:18] <howlingmadhowie> Jonatha1: is it sort of clear what i'm trying to do? i'm making two different bash-scripts
[03:18] <gh0st> Gnuskool, you here still?
[03:18] <kripple>  last time i added a url or something so it knew where on the net it is
[03:18] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Okay, I restarted it. Still doesn't connect anymore.
[03:18] <tranmanhtri> i'm living in VIETNAM
[03:18] <dredhammer> hello how do i get ubuntu's built in networking like dchp to mirror the settings of my hardware based router? like the maximum number of dhcp users
[03:18] <jrib> kripple: have you enabled the universe repository?
[03:18] <anandanbu> i have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in ubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png
[03:19] <jrib> !offtopic | tranmanhtri
[03:19] <ubotu> tranmanhtri: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:19] <kripple> jrib no don't know how or where
[03:19] <jrib> kripple: system -> administration -> software sources
[03:19] <jrib> !universe > kripple (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:19] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Its connects when I changed it back to /home/ftp/
[03:19] <Shaye> Can u tell me what is the latest version of TCL?
[03:19] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: what do you mean by "doesn't connect"? can you paste the result of: ftp localhost
[03:19] <Jonatha1> IT MAY OF HELPED
[03:19] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Well after I changed it, it says this * FTP response reading failed
[03:19] <Jonatha1> JUST FINE TUNING
[03:19] <dissection> * Closing connection #
[03:19] <jrib> Bosambo: how did you install the dependencies?
[03:20] <FloydFan> is there a better channel to discuss instilation bugs??
[03:20] <Bosambo> I tried to build a bunch of things that Gimp said it depended on and caused more trouble than it was worth...deb packages from Debian.org
[03:20] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: how are you connecting to the ftp server?
[03:20] <jrib> Bosambo: hmm, ok... join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[03:20] <Akoviem> Floyd, I have the same issue,
[03:20] <sipior> FloydFan: not really, you may have just stumped the locals, is all
[03:20] <Bosambo> Ok
[03:21] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: http://www.g6ftpserver.com/en/ftptest
[03:21] <howlingmadhowie> Jonatha1: don't shout :)
[03:21] <FloydFan> Akoviem: really?
[03:21] <anandanbu> i have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in ubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png
[03:21] <Akoviem> I cannot install past the keyboard select screen
[03:21] <Akoviem> YOu?
[03:21] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: when I typed ftp localhost, it said 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root
[03:21] <FloydFan> mine goes a bit further
[03:21] <genii> Akoviem: Are you on alternate cd?
[03:21] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: But I didn't enable write access
[03:22] <Viper^> okit.se
[03:22] <FloydFan> genii: tryed both
[03:22] <Akoviem> No on the iso download
[03:22] <Akoviem> 6.06, should I download the other one
[03:22] <FloydFan> well i have used both
[03:22] <FloydFan> same result
[03:22] <genii> FloydFan: In console4 (alt-f4) does it say:  Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found    ?
[03:22] <FloydFan> hmm  not sure I'm at work..
[03:23] <Aye|> Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..
[03:23] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: hang on, i'm thinking
[03:23] <FloydFan> did u read my procedure?
[03:23] <Shaye> Can u tell me what is the latest version of TCL?
[03:23] <FloydFan> (once more) ok.... installing ubuntu. Installatio craped out and droped me to initramfs. added "break=top" to install options, then "modeprobe piix", then "exit". Desktop boots after about 1000 years. Using install is impossibly slow and pretty much haults. Answeres?
[03:23] <nela> M
[03:23] <FloydFan> there..
[03:23] <codesnik_> hey, is there a way to install proprietary codecs not using automatix and alike?
[03:23] <giggsey> FloydFan, how much RAM?
[03:23] <sipior> FloydFan: which version of ubuntu, btw?
[03:23] <FloydFan> gig and 1/4
[03:23] <FloydFan> fiesty newest
[03:24] <linux_> someone know about SONY PLAY STATION 1 EMULATOR in linux ?
[03:24] <Jonatha1> Might have a hitch
[03:24] <sipior> FloydFan: and why did you add "break=top" and modprobe to the kernel options?
[03:24] <genii> FloydFan: I had same issue, turned out need to disable i82365.ko kernel driver from locking up system. you go to a busybox (alt-f2 or f3) then rm /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel.drivers/pcmcia/i83265.ko
[03:24] <gh0st> Linux_: They have a PSX Emulator for Linux?!
[03:24] <dissection> howlingmadhowie: Sorry my electricity's gone. I'll be back later.
[03:24] <jrib> !restricted > codesnik_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:24] <Stormx2> linux_: Search for emulator under synaptic.
[03:24] <dissection> :(
[03:24] <SeveredHead> psxe?
[03:24] <FloydFan> genii: ok ill check it out
[03:25] <howlingmadhowie> dissection: what does it say to: ftp anonymous@localhost
[03:25] <Akoviem> Anyone know why I cannot install past the keyboard selection, it just hangs
[03:25] <howlingmadhowie> Jonatha1: what's up?
[03:25] <genii> FloydFan: should be kernel/drivers    no . but /   there :)
[03:25] <kripple> ok guys wat can i use to watch avi's
[03:25] <Frack-Hesse> !upgrade > Frack-Hesse
[03:25] <FloydFan> sipior: cause it dropped me to a intramfs adn it was unusable
[03:25] <gh0st> SeveredHead: PSX ias the correct to term to refer to the original Playstation. (The one before the lighter colored one with the little screen attachment).
[03:25] <Frack-Hesse> hm
[03:25] <unitheory> Akoviem, you could try the alternate cd
[03:25] <Akoviem> ok will do that first, thanks
[03:26] <jrib> kripple: totem, vlc, mplayer, gxine all work fine
[03:26] <anandanbu> i have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in ubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png
[03:26] <ben__> How do I change file associations so that double clicking on movie clips opens in VLC media player rather than the default movie player? Cos I just deleted it in favor of VLC
[03:26] <sipior> FloydFan: but it worked when you added those directives?
[03:26] <jrib> !defaultapp > ben__ (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:26] <dresden> ok i read the ubuntu help page about NTFS, and i ran the program and enabled write support for external drives, now how do i mount the external NTFS drive?? can somebody just give me the right command??
[03:26] <genii> Akoviem: If you have the symptoms i described when using alternate  cd try what i just suggested to Floyd
[03:26] <sgtmattbaker> Hello, I think I am having problems with Ubuntu and my new 8800 GTS videocard. here for details please : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33226/plain/
[03:27] <FloydFan> genii: sure ok thanks ;)
[03:27] <ben__> thanks
[03:27] <Aye|> Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..
[03:27] <kripple>  hmm i got non of those  players for my ubuntu
[03:27] <jrib> dresden: I thought ntfs-3g would just set that up for you
[03:27] <dresden> i didnt see ntfs-3g any thing
[03:27] <jrib> kripple: by default ubuntu has totem, it's  applications -> multimedia -> totem
[03:27] <linux_> Stormx2 , didnt find
[03:27] <dresden> it just told me on that URL how to enable NTFS, it sais its built in to ubuntu??
[03:27] <FloydFan> sipior: well semi worked.. got to desktop but unusably slow and actually stoped
[03:27] <Stormx2> linux_: Look harder
[03:27] <jrib> dresden: the link I gave you is about ntfs-3g though
[03:28] <dresden> ok let me look at it again
[03:28] <dresden> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions ???
[03:28] <genii> dresden: Ubuntu can read but not write to ntfs without ntfs-3g. to write, you need that package
[03:28] <gcostello> !defaultapp > gcostello
[03:28] <sipior> FloydFan: any unusual hardware? recent motherboard or graphics card?
[03:28] <dresden> ok thanks how do i get the 3G driver?? i dont see a link on that page
[03:28] <anandanbu> genii: can you help mw with this i have the following error while mounting my USB pendrive in ubuntu7.04 http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/262/mounterrorln1.png
[03:29] <jrib> !ntfs-3g
[03:29] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:29] <Stormx2> dresden: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config && sudo ntfs-config
[03:29] <genii> anandanbu: I'll look at it. 1 minute
[03:29] <ben__> jrib: VLC isn't in the list of applications to add as a movie-opening program
[03:29] <jrib> dresden: my mistake, let me find you the right link.  ubotu is out of date
[03:29] <dresden> there is no link to install NTFS-3G at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions ????/
[03:29] <dresden> thanks
[03:29] <jrib> ben__: use a custom command then
[03:29] <dresden> not your mistake its tyhe bots fault
[03:29] <ben__> OK. I'm new to that...
[03:29] <Stormx2> Sure that VLC is installed?
[03:29] <dresden> thank you so much for helping me
[03:29] <anandanbu> genii: thanks for that
[03:29] <FloydFan> sipior: well... not really. new emu 1212m sound card. Geforce 5200 video
[03:29] <ben__> Stormx2: I can open it
[03:30] <genii> anandanbu: It looks like maybe you put /media/sdb1 for the thing to mount instead of the point to mount it at
[03:30] <linux_> Stormx2 , can you tell me the name ?
[03:30] <Aye|> Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..
[03:30] <Stormx2> dresden
[03:30] <dresden> hi stormx2
[03:30] <FloydFan> soundcard could conflict with my onboard but i disabled that in bios
[03:30] <Stormx2> dresden: The page ubotu linked you to is fine.
[03:30] <anandanbu> genii: then how to i recover it
[03:30] <dresden> it does not have a download link stormx2
[03:30] <oranye> mr. niceguy
[03:30] <dresden> i need adownload link for ntfs-3G
[03:30] <gh0st> Can anybody direct me to a decent, virtually problem-free tutorial on how partioning a drive to Dueal-Boot wotih Windows Vista Basic and Ubuntu (FF)?
[03:30] <sipior> FloydFan: and do other live cds give the same problems (knoppix, for instance?)
[03:31] <genii> anandanbu: should be mounting device  /dev/sdb1 into dir /media/sdb1.  Just re-run the program
[03:31] <Stormx2> dresden; What? It doesn't need to give you one.
[03:31] <jrib> ben__: k https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions is the right link, it must have gotten updated.  See the section about "Installing NTFS 3G Driver".  YOu need to install the ntfs-config package and then go to applications -> system tools -> ntfs configuration tool.  Did you do this?
[03:31] <Stormx2> dresden: Follow the instructions under "Installing NTFS 3G Driver"
[03:31] <FloydFan> no  i run knoppix, backtrack, mandriva, dsl
[03:31] <ben__> jrib: wrong person
[03:31] <jrib> ben__: that was meant for dresden :/
[03:31] <ben__> :)
[03:31] <anandanbu> genii: how to do it im a n00b
[03:31] <dresden> i typed in "audo apt-get install ntfs-config" and it said up to date
[03:31] <genii> anandanbu:eg:  sudo ntfs-config
[03:31] <dresden> i followed the instructions!!!! a
[03:31] <sipior> FloydFan: bizarre. maybe try an older version for the install, and then updating?
[03:31] <dresden> i didnt downlod any thing!!
[03:32] <Stormx2> dresden: Well, run ntfs-config then, as per the page
[03:32] <genii> anandanbu: Close the open window running it first tho
[03:32] <dresden> OHH i need to run the config??
[03:32] <Stormx2> dresden: So? That means you already have the necessary driver.
[03:32] <dresden> im sorry i thought config just worked on its own
[03:32] <FloydFan> sipior: i was thinking on that.. i researched the bug and it seems pretty common
[03:32] <anandanbu> genii: in that both the options are selected
[03:32] <Stormx2> dresden: Nah, you need to enable it.
[03:32] <dresden> i used the program as SU and enabled it.....i still cant write!!
[03:32] <RARA> dfoieifoqwerf
[03:32] <anandanbu> genii: still iam not able to mount the drive
[03:33] <dresden> do i need to unmount and remount??
[03:33] <ben__> Sorry, bit of a noob here. Where would VLC's program file be installed? I'm trying to write that custom command
[03:33] <RARA> hi ALL
[03:33] <Stormx2> dresden: No. Just follow the page ubotu linked you to.
[03:33] <cjae> hello
[03:33] <Xoris> ben__: dpkg -L vlc
[03:33] <dresden> i already followed the page, but i plugged my USB HDD in before that, do i need to unmount and remount it??
[03:33] <dresden> because its not working
[03:33] <ben__> cehers
[03:33] <ben__> cheers
[03:33] <genii> anandanbu: Please pastebin results of the command:  sudo fdisk -l
[03:33] <Stormx2> ben__: The command is "vlc"
[03:33] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: sounds like a good ida
[03:33] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: s/ida/idea
[03:33] <RARA> #JOIN MAKASSAR
[03:33] <linux_> who know the name of the emulator?
[03:33] <cjae> hey trying to perl script for decoding 3wplayer .avis how do I make the script work
[03:34] <dresden> OK how do i umount a USB HDD?
[03:34] <kripple> ok i still can't get a player on this version
[03:34] <dresden> whats s/ida/idea
[03:34] <kripple> totem is not here
[03:34] <kripple>  i want vlc anyway
[03:34] <genii> !paste | anandanbu
[03:34] <ubotu> anandanbu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:34] <jrib> kripple: did manage to enable universe?
[03:34] <sipior> linux_: i think you want pcsx, i don't know
[03:34] <Stormx2> dresden: Meh, it should work without remounting.
[03:34] <Stormx2> dresden: ntfs-config remounts automatically, I think
[03:34] <anandanbu> genii: wait a sec i'll
[03:34] <speaker219> is anyone here/
[03:34] <jrib> dresden: try pressing "reload" in nautilus maybe
[03:34] <dresden> strange
[03:34] <sipior> speaker219: nope
[03:34] <dresden> wheres reload at?
[03:34] <Stormx2> speaker219: No one.
[03:35] <speaker219> i need help guys, is it possible to adjust screen brightness?
[03:35] <speaker219> without using the Fn keys
[03:35] <jrib> dresden: toolbar at the top somewhere
[03:35] <dresden> i dont even know what nautilus is sorry
[03:35] <Stormx2> speaker219: Look in your monitor's manual.
[03:35] <dresden> ohhh ok
[03:35] <anandanbu> genii: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33230/
[03:35] <speaker219> i have a laptop
[03:35] <dresden> nautilus is the file explorer huh?
[03:35] <cjae> hey trying to use perl script for decoding 3wplayer .avis how do I make the script work tried creating empty file
[03:35] <genii> anandanbu: OK reading
[03:35] <speaker219> on windows, there was an intel app that would adjust the brightness/contrast
[03:35] <speaker219> is there one for linux
[03:35] <jrib> dresden: right
[03:35] <cjae> and making executable and put it in usr/bin
[03:35] <Xoris> speaker219: which laptop
[03:35] <RARA> fuck nyou
[03:35] <speaker219> Dell inspiron 1130
[03:35] <dresden> ok i will try again guys
[03:36] <RARA> fuck you all
[03:36] <str1> hi,  is it safely possible to move free space from my /home partition to /data partition  ?    using feisty and reiserfs filesystem on all partitions
[03:36] <dresden> and you guys thought i was bad
[03:36] <sipior> RARA: thanks, come again soon!
[03:36] <Aye|> Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..
[03:36] <genii> anandanbu: Well, there is perhaps the problem :) sdb2 is not a NTFS partition. only adb1 and sdb5 are
[03:36] <genii> sdb1 rather
[03:37] <sipior> damn, jrib, you need to ban him *after* the witty rejoinder! don't you learn that in moderators school? :-)
[03:37] <speaker219> the laptop is a B130/1130
[03:37] <dresden> hey it did not work, i unmounted the drive and mounted it, still wont let me write to NTFS!!!
[03:37] <genii> anandanbu: sda1 and sda5 more like. Need coffe, pls excuse typos on occasion :)
[03:37] <dresden> its an external USB HDD (NTFS)
[03:37] <speaker219> i need to know if there is a program on linux that can modfiy the brightness
[03:37] <anandanbu> genii: then what should i do
[03:37] <str1> Ayel:  KDE used to crash everytime on startup when i had my booted from an old PCI card (BIOS setting)... i made the default boot card my ATI AGP and it worked fine
[03:37] <sgtmattbaker> I have some issues, can someone help?
[03:37] <sgtmattbaker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33226/plain/
[03:37] <sgtmattbaker> thanks
[03:38] <dresden> wow sgt thats a nice card
[03:38] <Stormx2> dresden: Did you properly use ntfs-config, on the correct device, enabling write support, yeah?
[03:38] <sgtmattbaker> dresden: not when it isnt working right
[03:38] <dresden> i just checked the box and clicked APPLY stormx2
[03:38] <Stormx2> !enter | sgtmattbaker
[03:38] <ubotu> sgtmattbaker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:38] <jrib> sipior: heh
[03:38] <Xoris> speaker219: try ddccontrol (or gddccontrol), or acpi-support if that fails
[03:38] <dresden> i mena OK
[03:38] <dresden> i just checked the box and clicked OK
[03:38] <dresden> "enable write support for external device"
[03:38] <dresden> did i do something wrong?
[03:39] <genii> anandanbu: If you are trying to mount the second hd there, don't use ntfs, it is vfat filesystem on it.
[03:39] <Stormx2> dresden: Did you select the correct device?
[03:39] <dresden> i dont know how to select a device with the tool Stormx2
[03:39] <anandanbu> genii: i had to mount a USB pen drive thats it
[03:39] <genii> anandanbu: If you are trying to mount a partition on first hd like sda1 or sda5 then you can use the ntfs-config on those
[03:39] <riaal_> .tar is not compressed?
[03:39] <dresden> Stormx2 the tool simply has a checkbox, i dont know how to select a device
[03:40] <anandanbu> genii: tell me what should i do to solve the problem then
[03:40] <dresden> when i try to write it sais i dont have hte permission
[03:40] <sgtmattbaker> can anyone help?
[03:40] <dresden> and i cant change the permission
[03:40] <unitheory> riaal_, no, dont think so
[03:40] <Stormx2> dresden: Ah yeah...
[03:40] <Aye|> Does anyone know ubuntu will not boot with my geforce 6200 PCI card, but boots when i set my bios to use the onboard card, but when ubuntu does boot and X loads it will load my geforce 6200 and use that as its graphics card, it seems to be something with the drviers because when i use "recovery mode" it seems to hang on the loading hardware drviers, but im not sure where to look..
[03:40] <dresden> i went to the drives properties and it wont let me change permission
[03:40] <dresden> how do i select that drive specifically with the NTFS tool?? its only has 2 checkboxes????
[03:40] <Stormx2> dresden: Enable write support for both Internal and External devices, just in case ubuntu is seeing your device as internal
[03:41] <anandanbu> genii: can you please tell me what should i do to solve the problem then
[03:41] <dresden> internal is greyed...
[03:41] <chikita> hello, i cant generate characters like ~ with alt+126 or any alt+ combination whatsoever, what can i do to fix it?
[03:41] <dresden> i cant stormx2, internal is grey
[03:41] <genii> anandanbu: Please do:  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab then pastebin the file , i will give you some edits to make that may work
[03:41] <Stormx2> dresden: Ah. Okay, are you sure you don't have permission? Go into the drive and try to rename a file.
[03:41] <dresden> ok let me try
[03:41] <cjae> can someone pls tell me how to make a perl script work I am not a programmer
[03:41] <dresden> i cant do any thing stormx2
[03:42] <dresden> all the options are grayed, if i cahnge something or add something it sais i do not have permissions
[03:42] <sgtmattbaker> do you think my issue can be this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/80535  specifically my videocard having incompatibilities with feisty i.e. not the closed source nvidia driver installed?
[03:42] <jrib> chikita: you can use ctrl-shift-u  unicode number
[03:42] <Stormx2> dresden: uhg. I hate to recommend it, but maybe you could try rebooting?
[03:42] <genii> anandanbu: Also the uuid that command: sudo blkid  produces for /dev/sdb1 may be needed
[03:42] <dresden> ok should i leave hte USB device connected StormX2
[03:42] <Stormx2> dresden: Yeah.
[03:42] <dresden> ok i will reboot and get back to you!
[03:42] <MeRodent> any advice on using a GeForce 8800 GTS with ubuntu?
[03:42] <dresden> thanks brb
[03:43] <SORMANOV> i cant mount my sony memory stick card, dmesg tell me: [ 1641.864000]  tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:0
[03:43] <howlingmadhowie> Stormx2: why is he rebooting?
[03:43] <anandanbu> genii: wait for a while i'll do that
[03:43] <genii> anandanbu: I am being called away for work, will not be immediately responding but i am still here and assisting, please be patient :)
[03:44] <genii> AFK 5-7 minutes (max)
[03:44] <anandanbu> genii: thats ok
[03:44] <anandanbu> genii: here it is for the fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33231/
[03:45] <Stormx2> howlingmadhowie: Can't get write support on an external ntfs device. Umount/mount has no effect, ntfs-config is doing nothing, etc
[03:45] <aiman> hi
[03:45] <zoders> hej
[03:45] <zoders> ;] 
[03:45] <dresden> hi you fixed it thank you soooo much!!!!!
[03:45] <dresden> i now have my 199GB volume on my desktop thanks :)
[03:45] <npnufu> what is the module that handles usb media.
[03:46] <npnufu> I would like to disable it.  How can I do it?
[03:46] <dresden> are you there??
[03:46] <dresden> it works thanks
[03:46] <YBH_1> npnufu disable USB in your BIOS
[03:46] <sgtmattbaker> grrr, someone answer
[03:47] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: and we're very happy for you :)
[03:47] <YBH_1> sgtmattbaker repeat ?
[03:47] <dresden> heheh
[03:47] <linux_> someone have list of all synaptic cool games ?
[03:47] <sgtmattbaker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33226/plain/ I have an issue with my 8800GTS videocard I think in relation to Ubuntu
[03:47] <npnufu> YBH_1; no alternative?  there should be a module that handles this.
[03:47] <dresden> i have 1 more fianl problem, its the only problem i think i will have now!!! :) when i go to nvidia-settings (in console) and change my resolution to 1360, it does not stick , i have to do this every time i reboot my computer! what can i do?
[03:47] <zoders> hej ;] 
[03:48] <Xoris> !games > linux_
[03:48] <zoders> ups...sory to nie kana polski
[03:48] <Alloos1> Hi, Iam a web developer, anyway, I have a script that upload files to directory first had problem with uploading because of the permissions, so I canged it in terminal to 0777 and I uploaded the file (image), when I opened the folder where the image is, I so that the image is locked, and I cant open it, and it shows that the owner in www-data, how to change the owner to be every one?
[03:48] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: you are clicking on "save settings to xorg.conf" or whatever it's called?
[03:49] <dresden> i did that and it still does not stick after reboot
[03:49] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: i don't think your partition corruption issues can be traced to the graphics card. i must confess i
[03:49] <dresden> it always boots up in 1024 instead of 1360
[03:49] <Stormx2> Alloos1: The owner on the FTP server, or your local machine?
[03:49] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: can you have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and check that it actually is saving the settings there?
[03:49] <dresden> ok i can
[03:49] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: i'm a little concerned: i just got a 8800GTS for my new system, and was going to install ubuntu tonight :)
[03:49] <nuyao> Alloos1: you could use chmod in your script
[03:49] <chikita> jrib, thanks it works but its kinda complicated, do u know if linux supports alt + any number to generate characters like windows does?
[03:49] <sgtmattbaker> sipior: I know, but wat about my system beep, and the glitchy things at the BIOS?
[03:49] <dresden> what command do i use howlingmadhowie
[03:49] <linux_> OMG quake arena 3 is free in linux ?
[03:49] <jrib> chikita: I don't know
[03:50] <dresden> i have the command written some where...
[03:50] <Lieutenant> Question: I'm Running KDE on Ubuntu 6 and i have no Resolution settings, any help is greatly appreciated.
[03:50] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: possible. is the system adequately ventilated for this card? it draws ~100 watts peak.
[03:50] <Alloos1> Stormx, I know I can use chmod in the script, but I want to be able to see the image, Iam testing my applications that way.
[03:50] <YBH_1> sgtmattbaker you need a driver for your video card for linux. I don't know if there is one avaialable, video card drivers can be a b*tch in Linux
[03:50] <Stormx2> Alloos1: 777 isn't a fix-all permission, you know. Stick to 644 for most things.
[03:50] <chikita> ok, ty anyway
[03:50] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: try "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" you won't be able to edit the file, but you should be able to check if it's okay. paste it to pastebin, if you want
[03:50] <dresden> thats it thanks howling !
[03:51] <Shaye> If for example I downloaded eggdrop by using "apt-get install eggdrop", where does the file being downloaded to?
[03:51] <s0crates> Hello I am having some trouble with my wireless card and wanted to know if I could find some help here
[03:51] <gcostello> Shaye: /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:51] <dresden> !pastebin
[03:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:51] <Stormx2> Shaye: It downloads an archive (.deb), unpacks it, installs it to a specified location, and runs any necessary scripts, then deletes the .deb it downloaded.
[03:51] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: the heat might be problematic for the system, and would result in strange behaviour
[03:51] <Shaye> well then basically how do i use the eggdrop now heh
[03:52] <Shaye> i mean where do i find the files
[03:52] <YBH_1> Shaye try man eggdrop ?
[03:52] <dresden> howlingmadhowie , my xorg config is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33233/ , i may have messed it up and thats why its not working ??? (because i played with it before i learned how to launch nvidia-settings)
[03:52] <dresden> i never did get my xorg config to do any thing other than 1024
[03:52] <YBH_1> $ man eggdrop
[03:52] <sgtmattbaker> YBH_1: so do you think the system beep was saying that the standard driver on the LiveCD isnt gonna work well with the 8800GTS?  It started the continuous system beep when I told the LiveCD to restart
[03:52] <YBH_1> on a command line
[03:52] <Stormx2> Shaye: Under synaptic, locate it, right click > properties > installed files. I'm sure there's a command-line shortcut tho
[03:52] <sgtmattbaker> I have a 550 watt psu
[03:52] <s0crates> I have a broadcom wireless card and the kernel seems to want to load it. in dmesg I get an error that says "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available
[03:52] <gcostello> Shaye: dpkg -L eggdrop will list all the files installed by the package
[03:52] <Alloos1> how am I supposed to upload stuff is the permiossion is 644?
[03:53] <Stormx2> Alloos1: An FTP client?
[03:53] <s0crates> or not able to load
[03:53] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: also, have you seen this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3137136
[03:53] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: the issue is not power supply, it is heat mitigation :)
[03:53] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: yeah, it hasn't got the right video modes in there
[03:53] <Lieutenant> Question: I'm Running KDE on Ubuntu 6 and i have no Resolution settings, any help is greatly appreciated.
[03:53] <dresden> can you help me fix it howlingmadhowie!!!
[03:53] <YBH_1> sgtmattbaker plenty off power for your PC and card
[03:53] <dresden> i probably messed it up liek i said
[03:54] <YBH_1> off = of
[03:54] <dresden> i tried to revert it but i dont know if i did it right or not
[03:54] <hershey> need some help
[03:54] <Alloos1> Iam not uploading using ftp. Iam developing php mysql application, so I need to be able to browse the images folder, and by the way, is there a way to change the terminal background to be black and the font white?
[03:54] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: is this a new card, btw?
[03:54] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: that i can. shut the gedit window, log in as root (sudo -i) and open the file with: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:54] <dresden> howlingmadhowie yes im pretty usre i reverted it right, that should be my original xorg...please help me insert 1360 properly
[03:54] <dresden> ok will do
[03:54] <sgtmattbaker> sipior: yes it is like 2 days old
[03:54] <hershey> help plz
[03:54] <gcostello> Alloss1: which terminal are you using?
[03:54] <Stormx2> Alloos1: Edit > Profiles under gnome-terminal
[03:55] <s0crates> hello, where can I see the modules that my kernel is trying to load
[03:55] <Alloos1> ubuntu terminal
[03:55] <s0crates> in feisty
[03:55] <hershey> i need help with ubuntu 7.04
[03:55] <YBH_1> Alloos1 what kind of terminal. a linux command line terminal or a X terminal window
[03:55] <ari_stress> good evening
[03:55] <Stormx2> Alloos1: You shouldn't need to mess with permissions if you're web deving, especially if you're developing locally. Why are you trying to?
[03:55] <hershey> so i installed virtualbox on for feisty and now it gives me some error
[03:55] <sgtmattbaker> sipior: but why would I only get a system beep when restarting from the livecd?  I have 3 or 4 case fans, and a huge zalman CPU fan with a 5" diameter
[03:55] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: do you have on-board video to test with?
[03:55] <hershey> help plz plz!!!
[03:55] <sgtmattbaker> sipior: no
[03:55] <Stormx2> hershey: How can we help when you don't give the error...
[03:56] <hershey> good point
[03:56] <s0crates> Stormx2: I gave the error, and no one helps anyways.
[03:56] <dresden> howling i opened it with nano
[03:56] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: then cooling is probably not an issue, but of course i don't know the details of your system a priori
[03:56] <dresden> howlingmadhowie , i opened it with nano
[03:56] <Stormx2> s0crates: Maybe no one knows the solution?
[03:56] <YBH_1> sgtmattbaker you have driver issues in windows and linux
[03:56] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: okay. scroll down the file with the arrow keys until you see the line:  Section "Screen"
[03:56] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: you might consider plugging in an older card to get going, installing the latest nvidia drivers and reinstall
[03:56] <hershey> error says, 'please run package manager from the right-click menu or apt-get on a ternal to see what is wrong...
[03:57] <wizo> hey, if i apt-get installed freeglut3, what should the headers be for compiling glut.h in my code?
[03:57] <s0crates> Stormx2: I think it's pretty straight forwards, just not used to the ubuntu sys
[03:57] <Lieutenant> i'v stated my error twice, and no responce
[03:57] <Stormx2> hershey: That isn't the entire error. Could you pastebin all output?
[03:57] <Stormx2> !paste | hershey
[03:57] <ubotu> hershey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:57] <akos> sn,
[03:57] <dresden> ok im scrolling howlingmadhowie
[03:57] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: then scroll down further until you see the line: Depth 24
[03:57] <akos> I am making some patch for gaim, for the emoticon pack. I made the .diff patch with diff -urN, but there are some images in the new tree that don't exist in the old one. diff outputs some messages about binary file new/x does not match old/x. (but old/x does not exist). Should I leave them there, or just remove the lines?
[03:57] <akos> * fireba11 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[03:57] <npnufu> does any one know which module handles USB media in Feisty.
[03:57] <akos> sorry about the 2nd line
[03:57] <s0crates> Stormx2: maybe you can look :  I have broadcom wireless, my kernel tries to load a .fw that doesn't exist at startup.
[03:57] <dresden> okay i found it
[03:57] <Alloos1> stormx, Iam developing a php script where people can upload images, so the images will go to images folder located  at var/www/site/images to be able to upload I had to change the images folder permission to 777, and thats fine, now when I go to the images folder I see the picture I uploaded as locked, but I need to be able to change it in the images folder
[03:57] <dresden> ok im looking for Depth 24
[03:57] <dresden> found depth 24
[03:58] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: now, in the line after "Depth 24" you can see various modes (1024x768...)
(E:The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.)
[03:58] <dresden> yes
[03:58] <wizo> i tried doing #include <GL/glut.h> and #include <glut.h> but they don't work
[03:58] <dresden> i can
[03:58] <dresden> i see 1024, 800, 640
[03:58] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: add the mode you want at the start of the list
[03:58] <dresden> overwrite the 1024??
[03:58] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: add a new entry
[03:58] <dresden> ok
[03:58] <Stormx2> Alloos1: Firstly, this is a PHP issue, so you should be in ##php. Second, it will be uploaded under your httpd user (that's what handles the upload). Thirdly, you may need to chmod() it to 644 in PHP
[03:59] <dresden> i want 1360x768
[03:59] <sgtmattbaker> why would a driver issue make my pc do a continuous system beep when restarting from the feisty livecd?  also, why would there be graphical glitches at the BIOS screen.. that doesnt make any sense
[03:59] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: then modify it as seen here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33234/
[03:59] <dresden> thanks i was going to ask
[04:00] <Lieutenant> KDE doesn't give me resolution settings, GNome does
[04:00] <AviAtriX> can some one help me confugure beryl ?
[04:00] <dresden> yes i was doing it wrong lol
[04:00] <AviAtriX> pm me
[04:00] <YBH_1> your BIOS isn't set up to handle that type of graphics card. you will need to do some research on your card. try google.com for a search
[04:00] <dresden> thank you howlingmadhowie let me do it now
[04:00] <Alloos1> stormx, I think I got what you mean here, sorry, but iam new to ubuntu, and the thing is that, I want to get very familiar with it, because Iam going to convence my clients to use it for their server.
[04:00] <sgtmattbaker> maybe this is related? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/80535
[04:00] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: then save the file with ctrl-o and quit nano with ctrl-x
(E:The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.)
[04:00] <hershey> that the error i get
[04:00] <dresden> ok will do
[04:00] <Stormx2> AviAtriX: No, ask your question in #ubuntu-effects unless you have some mandate to use PMs.
[04:00] <dresden> this will take me a bit i will try to make sure i dont mess it up!!
[04:00] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: the graphical glitches at the bios screen are anotehr matter. i thought we were talking about the blank screen later?
[04:01] <hershey> anyone kno what i can do about this error message... <type'exceptions.SystemError'>(E:The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.)
[04:01] <Lieutenant> is anyone going to tell me something? i need assistance
[04:01] <sgtmattbaker> sipior: yeah I dont care about edgy, I know that is a driver issue.  I care about the continuous system beep when I hit restart while in teh feisty livecd and it only stops beeping when it gets to the BIOS screen
[04:02] <Stormx2> Alloos1: This isn't an ubuntu-specific issue. This is to do with *nix systems in general and PHP.
[04:02] <Alloos1> hershy, get the archive from the source.
[04:02] <sgtmattbaker> also, the BIOS glitches
[04:02] <YBH_1> sgtmattbaker: http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/mtarchive/embarrassingly_high_end_video.html
[04:02] <Alloos1> stormx, I know, but thought I can ask here since Iam using ubuntu, thanks anyway
[04:02] <taffy-nay> Is there a way to collect the updates from the repo's and compile them onto a CD/DVD for install on machines that do NOT have internet/network access?
[04:02] <hershey> how do i do that Alloos1?
[04:02] <sipior> does either your motherboard or video card manual list possible causes for the system beep?
[04:02] <Stormx2> hershey: sudo apt-get remove virtualbox && sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[04:02] <sgtmattbaker> well
[04:02] <Stormx2> Alloos1: It's okay, I'm just letting you know really.
[04:02] <dresden> argh i keep messing it up howlingmad
[04:03] <JamesDS> GRUB Error: Invalid System Disk
[04:03] <dresden> is there an UNDO shortcut
[04:03] <sgtmattbaker> there is nothing talking about a continuous bep
[04:03] <sgtmattbaker> beep
[04:03] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: undo on nano? just shut the file with ctrl-x and open it again
[04:03] <JamesDS>  can someone help me with the above GRUB error?
[04:03] <dresden> argh i keep doing that lol
[04:03] <Lieutenant> Hello? i need assistance.
[04:03] <dresden> il just tpye the whole thing out next time
[04:03] <YBH_1> a continous beep by the BIOS means an error
[04:03] <dresden> i was trying to copy and paste 1024 and change the numbers but i keep messing it up
[04:03] <sipior> sgtmattbaker: might be worth contacting customer support. you said you had problems under windows as well? could the card be bad?
[04:04] <sgtmattbaker> there is a "series of beeps" but that is at bootup, I only got it from the time I hit restart on the livecd until it got to the bios screen
[04:04] <Shaye> why when i try to ./configure eggdrop it says access denied while i am logged as root
[04:04] <arius> It is probably a stupid suggestion, but as xchat brought me here, check the power lead to your video card. This can cause pre-bios beeps, although it is usually accomanied by a "plug me in" message.
[04:04] <Alloos1> Hershy, the best way is to what I do, look in ubuntuforums.org, and you should find a thread explaining how to install your software, so follow it because they provide the source, and I think that you would be interested in ubuntuguide.or also, you can get great stuff there, actually I managed to install many stuff from there.
[04:04] <taffy-nay> Is there a way to collect the updates from the repo's and compile them onto a CD/DVD for install on machines that do NOT have internet/network access?.
[04:04] <linuxor> HI, how to convert avi or ogg to swf or flv ? thx
[04:05] <arius> Use PS3Video9. That will convert to flv.
[04:05] <Alloos1> Hershly, here is a great one http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[04:05] <Stormx2> Alloos1: Meh, compiling from source is something that should be avoided under ubuntu unless you need to.
[04:05] <YBH_1> sgtmattbaker have you tried to reinstall the graphics card, it may not be seated properly in the slot.
[04:05] <sipior> taffy-nay: sure, they're generally collected in /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:05] <hershey> thanks Alloos1
[04:06] <JamesDS> GRUB Error: Invalid System Disk - help??
[04:06] <arius> :o PS3Video9 doesn't appear to have a *nix version, apologises.
[04:06] <dgjones> Lieutenant, it might be worth posting your query again, the channel is scrolling fairly quickly and might be missed, if you don't get an answer, perhaps try again after 15 minutes or so
[04:06] <dresden> OK howlingmadhowie , i pressed CTRL+O and then i clickedh te X  on the top right to close
[04:06] <Shaye> why when i try to ./configure eggdrop it says access denied while i am logged as root
[04:06] <wizo> ok.. anyone knows where the libraries for glut is stored?
[04:06] <Alloos1> Stormx. Yes I know, but his software is not included, so its best to get it from the sources provided at the ubuntu sites, because they provide great info.
[04:06] <Lieutenant> Question: I'm Running KDE on Ubuntu 6 and i have no Resolution settings, any help is greatly appreciated.
[04:06] <Stormx2> Shaye: You should be running ./configure as root.
[04:06] <dresden> it didnt save it i think i did it wrong Howlingmadhowie lol
[04:06] <jrib> Shaye: eggdrop is packaged in ubuntu's repositories, no need to compile it
[04:06] <dresden> let me try again!
[04:06] <nr4g3d> is there any difference between cp /dev/null to a file and to rm -f a file?
[04:06] <YBH_1> JamesDS boot from the liveCD and examine your disk
[04:06] <Shaye> Stormx2 i know i should ;s
[04:06] <Stormx2> Shaye: Sounds like you need to make the file executable. chmod +x configure
[04:07] <taffy-nay> sipnor: is it easy to just bundle them onto a CD/DVD and then tell the other machine to use onle the CD as an install sourde?
[04:07] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: ctrl-x to close :)
[04:07] <dresden> ok
[04:07] <Alloos1> by the way, can some one tell me how to find a machine in my network, I have xp machine that I cant see in ubuntu while I can see ubuntu in the xp
[04:07] <bentob0x> I can't seem to install apache2 on my machine
[04:07] <ZombieWerewolf> Anyone know of any First Person Shooters for Ubuntu that support a gamepad?
[04:07] <JamesDS> YBH_1: Thanks for helping, this error shows when booting into Win ME
[04:07] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: did it complain after you entered ctrl-o?
[04:07] <Shaye> damn Stormx2 it worked
[04:07] <YBH_1> http://www.google.com/search?q=8800GTS+video+problems&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
[04:07] <Lieutenant> whoever can help me, PM me please, this fast scrolling is to much for me to keep up with.
[04:07] <Shaye> why can't i know as much as u do ;p
[04:07] <bentob0x> I run sudo aptitude install apache2 and it seems to download and then nothing
[04:07] <Alloos1> bentobox, sudo apt-get apache2
[04:07] <dresden> howlingmadhowie !!!!! Error writing /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied
[04:07] <Stormx2> Shaye: Wait, I mean _shouldn't_ be running it as root
[04:07] <MenZa> What do you mean "then nothing"?
[04:07] <dgjones> Lieutenant, i don't KDE, but I'd suggest asking in #kubuntu, you might stand a better chance of getting a response abouit KDE in there
[04:07] <linuxor> thx
[04:07] <MenZa> Alloos1: aptitude is correct.
[04:08] <Stormx2> Alloos1: You missed "install"
[04:08] <JamesDS> YBH_1: Does this actually mean a disk error?
[04:08] <Alloos1> sorry
[04:08] <Stormx2> !lamp | bentob0x
[04:08] <ubotu> bentob0x: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:08] <YBH_1> yes, could be the boot sector of the HD
[04:08] <dresden> howlingmadhowie i will try again maybe i wasnt SU or some thing
[04:08] <bentob0x> MenZa: after its' downloaded, there is no 'starting apache server' or someething
[04:08] <AviAtriX> please help me fix beryl ..
[04:09] <bentob0x> and locahost doesn't work
[04:09] <bentob0x> *localhost
[04:09] <YBH_1> You may need to reinstall GRUB, also could be sector problems in the HD
[04:09] <MenZa> bentob0x: try doing sudo /usr/sbin/apache2 start
[04:09] <Stormx2> AviAtriX: #ubuntu-effects
[04:09] <MenZa> !effects | AviAtriX
[04:09] <ubotu> AviAtriX: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:09] <JamesDS> YBH_1: The computer in question uses GRUB, boots into Ubuntu default, and has the option to boot into WinME
[04:09] <AviAtriX> no one answers
[04:09] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: yep. you need to be root to do that: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:09] <Stormx2> AviAtriX: Then wait.
[04:09] <sgtmattbaker> YBH_1 I will reinstall the videocard
[04:09] <dresden> ok thanks
[04:09] <sipior> taffy-nay: well, you'd have to set them up as an apt repository for that. i don't recall at the moment which command sets that up, but i imagine other folks around here know it
[04:09] <sgtmattbaker> be right back
[04:09] <Stormx2> ooh
[04:10] <bentob0x> you mean sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start MenZa?
[04:10] <Stormx2> there goes my panels, heh.
[04:10] <Stormx2> Gotta love upgrades.
[04:10] <AviAtriX> Stormx2: to waith what ?
[04:10] <MenZa> bentob0x: No, I mean what I say.
[04:10] <Stormx2> AviAtriX: Wait for someone to answer your question.
[04:10] <MenZa> bentob0x: /usr/sbin/apache2
[04:10] <taffy-nay> sipior: thanks buddy, i just wanted to know if I could, google can do the rest of the work for me
[04:10] <dresden> OK howlingmadhowie that worked!! now what?? how do i use it??
[04:10] <fevel> hello everyone :)
[04:10] <AviAtriX> Stormx2: ok ..
[04:10] <Stormx2> MenZa: Really? I've always used /etc/init.d/apache2...
[04:11] <bentob0x> I did, it returns Usage: /usr/sbin/apache2 [-D name]  [-d directory]  [-f file]  bla bla
[04:11] <bentob0x> with options and stuff MenZa
[04:11] <MenZa> Stormx2: That's just a script, I normally just... do the binary.
[04:11] <Stormx2> bentob0x: Try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:11] <MenZa> Stormx2: Force of habit.
[04:11] <wizo> hey guys, what do i have to install to get the include things in /usr/X11R6 ?
[04:11] <dresden> howlingmadhowie what do i do after i saved it
[04:11] <bentob0x> I did Stormx2, nothing happens, not even the 'starting apache' indication
[04:11] <Lordi_2> what's the best irc server to use with ubuntu?
[04:12] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: now see if it works. shut everything you're doing and log out and then back in again
[04:12] <fevel> is the panel the only place for trash??
[04:12] <dresden> OK thanks
[04:12] <MenZa> Lordi_2: search the repositories; apt-cache search ircd
[04:12] <Stormx2> bentob0x: That usually means it has started :O You get nothing at http://localhost/ ?
[04:12] <dresden> i will return
[04:12] <MenZa> fevel: No, it's in /home/yournick/.Trash
[04:12] <bentob0x> nope, nothing Stormx2
[04:12] <Lordi_2> MenZa:thanks :)
[04:12] <hershey> need to find archive for virtualbox, help plz
[04:12] <fevel> MenZa, thanks ; D
[04:12] <Stormx2> bentob0x: Check the error log: /var/log/apache/error_log
[04:12] <MenZa> fevel: np
[04:13] <bentob0x> empty Stormx2
[04:13] <Stormx2> bentob0x: Eek, I have no idea then!
[04:14] <MenZa> bentob0x: try removeing it (with --purge) and re-install it.
[04:15] <bentob0x> I did try to remove with sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2, it did its job but the /etc/apache2 folder is still there
[04:15] <dresden> howlingmad i rebooted
[04:15] <Blauhaut> guys
[04:15] <Blauhaut> selcuk@selcuk-laptop:~$ compiztools
[04:15] <Blauhaut>   File "/usr/share/CompizTools/compiz.py", line 25
[04:15] <Blauhaut> SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xc3' in file /usr/share/CompizTools/compiz.py on line 25, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details
[04:15] <dresden> and it still does 1024 by default
[04:15] <MenZa> bentob0x: remove it manually
[04:15] <Blauhaut> what should i do ?
[04:15] <bentob0x> how can I do that?
[04:15] <dresden> howlingmadhouse i rebooted and it still does 1024 bydefault!!
[04:15] <MenZa> bentob0x: uh, sudo rm -rf /etc/apache2 ?
[04:15] <chricke-> heyadayo, i have a problem whit my gfx card when i install ubuntu.. anyone who can help me? :D
[04:15] <pegger> I am wondering how much CPU full disk encription uses up, anyone here use frull disk encription?
[04:15] <Stormx2> !paste | Blauhaut
[04:15] <ubotu> Blauhaut: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:16] <chricke-> omg, sorry heyadayo.. i meant to say hey
[04:16] <dresden> pegger please be specifci
[04:16] <dresden> when writing encyrption?? huh
[04:16] <Blauhaut> Stormx2; can you help me ?
[04:16] <MenZa> !effects | Blauhaut
[04:16] <ubotu> Blauhaut: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:16] <howlingmadhowie> dresden:  i have an idea. one second.
[04:16] <Stormx2> Blauhaut: Well, do you understand the error or not?
[04:16] <dresden> pegger encryption hardly uses CPU at all in my experience using truecrypt and other programs
[04:17] <chricke-> ubuntu crashes when i have installed everything, then when i remove the live cd and try to start it.. then it dont work
[04:17] <dresden> ok howlingmadhowie
[04:17] <bentob0x> ah you mean to remove the /etc/apache2 folder manually, but how would I know that the other apache2 bits of files are removed proprely everywhere on my system?
[04:17] <Stormx2> MenZa: It's not a compiz-specific error.
[04:17] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: oh, btw. can you paste your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin so i can check it's okay?
[04:17] <dresden> yes ok
[04:17] <dresden> !pastebin
[04:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:17] <Blauhaut> Stormx2; sorry but my english is not very good so i go the website that the error said but i can not understand anythink
[04:17] <MenZa> Stormx2: It looks like a corrupt Compiz file.
[04:17] <chricke-> finns det ngon svensk hr som kan hjlpa mig?? msg isf.
[04:17] <dresden> howlingmadhowie sorry i have to go i will be back online later i hope you are here!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my woman has arrived
[04:17] <pegger> dresden: I am looking at loading aes as a kernel moule and having the partitions mount at boot
[04:17] <Stormx2> MenZa: Looks like the same to me, but in other words it's just a corrupt config file...
[04:17] <dresden> sorry thank you so much for helping me
[04:18] <MenZa> Stormx2: .py? Config?
[04:18] <dresden> wow thats too advanced for me im a noob pegger
[04:18] <Blauhaut> Stormx2;  do i need to setup python ?
[04:18] <Stormx2> MenZa: Sorry, I didn't mean config.
[04:18] <pegger> dresden: but yes I also use truecrypt on my USB memory stick and it works great
[04:18] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400035
[04:18] <dresden> howlingmadhowie so sorry ih ave to go il be back later ok
[04:18] <Stormx2> Blauhaut: No. Could you pastebin the file, please?
[04:18] <dresden> thanks il open that now and go
[04:18] <Blauhaut> Stormx2; ok
[04:18] <dresden> yeah i LOVE truecrypt
[04:18] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: okay. see you soon :)
[04:18] <hershey> ok cool i found the archive for virtualbox
[04:18] <caner> is there any program in linux like debug for ms-dos to view and alter bytes in memory and assembling , disassambling them. and showing the registers??
[04:18] <dresden> il just be AFK ok
[04:18] <pegger> dresden: what kernel modules scare you
[04:18] <hershey> thanks alloo1
[04:19] <dresden> im a noob i just dont understand what you said pegger lol
[04:19] <dresden> thats what i meant
[04:19] <dresden> AFK
[04:19] <Stormx2> caner: You need a hex editor, I guess. Look it up under synaptic.
[04:19] <mon^rch> botsnack
[04:19] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[04:19] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:19] <pegger> dresden: you ever complile your own software?
[04:19] <chricke-> varfr krashar ubuntu hela tiden efter man installerat det, sger att grafiska grnssnittet inte fungerar.. hjlp mig ??!??
[04:19] <dresden> i never did pegger
[04:19] <Sonic1> Mmm, compiling software, tastes good
[04:20] <dresden> but i have to go now sorry, im away AFK
[04:20] <MenZa> !se | chricke-
[04:20] <ubotu> chricke-: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[04:20] <pegger> dresden: well then there is a whole world to explore then
[04:20] <wizo> anyone has any idea on what i should install to get /usr/X11R6/include files? i need it urgently to do some openGL stuff
[04:20] <MenZa> chricke-: titta da
[04:20] <caner> Stormx2 : yes i have an hex editor. but is it possible to reach the registers or the memory through a simple hex editor?
[04:20] <Stormx2> caner: Ah, i guess not. I'm not really sure, maybe ask in ##linux?
[04:20] <sipior> caner: ddd and gdb do these, i believe
[04:21] <tonyT_G_Farmer> I have Boinc running and Xscreensaver keeps printing these messages that say "warning: only 0% idle over the last 10 secs (at XXX FPS)". Is there any way to turn them off? Maybe an option for the Xscreensaver command to hide the messages and not display them.
[04:21] <osxdude|laptop> correct
[04:21] <osxdude|laptop> correct
[04:21] <bentob0x> how come after an apt-get remove apache or apt-get remove apache2 I still have them in my system services?
[04:21] <caner> sipior : i know gdb. but dont know ddd is it a debugger too?
[04:21] <bulmer> bentob0x: try the purge option also
[04:22] <Pelo> tonyT_G_Farmer, look up the error msg in the forum
[04:22] <sipior> caner: ddd makes use of gdb, among others. it's a nice debugger, you might find it useful
[04:22] <RaD|Tz> Can anyone help me with this: W: GPG error: http://oss.oracle.com unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2E2BCDBCB38A8516
[04:22] <Pelo> bentob0x, only the apps have been removed the service list didn't get updated
[04:22] <hershey> does anyone here use beryl... can anyone recomment some other prog like it?
[04:22] <ari_stress> !aircrack
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aircrack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <Stormx2> hershey: Try #ubuntu-effects
[04:23] <bentob0x> how can I refresh that list Pelo
[04:23] <hershey> thanks
[04:23] <Pelo> bentob0x, reboot ?
[04:23] <Stormx2> !botabuse | ari_stress
[04:23] <ubotu> ari_stress: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:23] <bentob0x> ah ok
[04:23] <caner> sipior : ok. thank you. i will try it. i am new for assemly. sorry for my silly questns :)
[04:23] <sipior> caner: that wasn't a silly question. i had to check to make sure ddd could do what you asked :-)
[04:23] <tonyT_G_Farmer> Pelo: will do, thanks. Are you referring to resolving the error or just turning the message off. If i'm not mistaken, its just complaining about the CPU being at 100% which i'm ok with since i have Boinc running. I just don't want the messages to keep coming up over the screensavers
[04:24] <dromer> damnit, why won't twinview work on my pc :'(
[04:24] <Pelo> tonyT_G_Farmer,  I know noting about the error you are getting but I am assuming you are not the only one and that others may have discussed it in the forum,  where you might find a resolution or at least an explanantion
[04:24] <tonyT_G_Farmer> Pelo: Thanks
[04:25] <h4L1m> hello @ all
[04:25] <h4L1m> do anyone know how to install a cursor at ubuntu?
[04:25] <chenchen> I would like to file transfer to a server using SSH. May i know does ubuntu offer any GUI front end?
[04:25] <Pelo> tonyT_G_Farmer, I get why you get the message , which makes me think it's probably a common occurence
[04:26] <hershey> no one is really helping out in #ubuntu-effects
[04:26] <Pelo> chenchen,  open up synaptic and do a search for ssh gui
[04:26] <erUSUL> chenchen: Places>Connect to Server ??
[04:26] <mon^rch> !gftp
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <Pelo> hershey, not all channels are as busy as this one,  you may need to be patient or check in again at different times of day
[04:26] <hershey> oh i see, thanks
[04:26] <Pelo> !info gftp | mon^rch
[04:26] <ubotu> mon^rch: gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-16ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[04:27] <mon^rch> ty
[04:27] <Pelo> np
[04:27] <mon^rch> haha
[04:27] <pawan> what is unix time
[04:28] <lostat_C> Hi. First how can I tell what version of Ubuntu I am using? I only have the XFCE desktop installed right now.
[04:28] <Pelo> pawan, right click on the clock  prefts,  click the help button, there is an explanation tere
[04:28] <Pelo> there
[04:28] <sipior> pawan: typically seconds from the epoch (1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 UTC)
[04:28] <linux_> how i can clear alt + f2 histary ?
[04:28] <linux_> history *
[04:28] <lostat_C> If I install Gnome Desktop will that have any effect on my speed and resources when I am in XFCE?
[04:29] <Juno> can anyone tell me how to make Synaptic download from the net? it keeps asking me for a cd
[04:29] <NedUS> Good day.  I'm installing the server version of Ubuntu (and I'm a newbie to Linux to boot) and can't figure out how to install a desktop on the server version (KDE/Gnome, doesn't matter.)
[04:29] <NedUS> I attempted to install KDE yesterday - and it looked successful - but when I did a kdestart, it gave me errors.
[04:30] <mon^rch> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:30] <AngelEyes1701> Thank the Gods allmighty! Is there anyone here who can help me? I just installed Ubuntu and it's not as easy adjusting to as I thought it would be.
[04:30] <NedUS> mon^rch - and how would I start it?
[04:30] <lostat_C> Nedus you can use the terminal to install anything with the command 'sudo apt-get install PROGRAM HERE'
[04:30] <mon^rch> startx
[04:30] <mon^rch> NedUS: ^
[04:30] <NedUS> excellent.  Lemme take a crack at that.  Thank you.
[04:31] <AngelEyes1701> ?
[04:32] <riaal_> Im having a problem and ppl in the bash channel really don
[04:32] <sipior> AngelEyes1701: our telepathy server is down. perhaps you could describe your problem?
[04:32] <erUSUL> AngelEyes1701: ask a specific question
[04:32] <dgjones> AngelEyes1701, people won't know if they can help you until you say what problems you are having, ask your real question and see if anyone can help then
[04:32] <erUSUL> !anyone | AngelEyes1701
[04:32] <ubotu> AngelEyes1701: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:32] <NedUS> ooo - one more thing.  Most books I find on Ubuntu focus on a GUI desktop, but I'd really prefer a CLI - any suggested resource or will practically any UNIX book do?
[04:32] <sipior> well, that was excessive
[04:32] <riaal_> Im having a problem and ppl in the bash channel really don't wanna help.. Anyone know the corrent syntax for:  if [ "$1" != 'remote' ]  && [ "$1" != 'local' ] ;then
[04:33] <riaal_> correct
[04:33] <lostat_C> We have a telepathy server!? My god if so I must be broken and I need service!
[04:33] <aaaa> helo
[04:33] <sipior> NedUS: for system administration? or general unix?
[04:33] <aaaa> 
[04:34] <NedUS> at this point, I'd take either.  I've been doing DOS stuff for eons.
[04:34] <wizo> hey, how can i check if i have my drivers for my graphics card installed
[04:35] <Blauhaut> Stormx2; http://rafb.net/p/mDOBCB97.html help me ?
[04:35] <sipior> NedUS: "UNIX for the Impatient" is good. The system administrator bible is Nemeth et al. "UNIX System Administration Handbook" excellent reference.
[04:36] <NedUS> excellent; I'll attempt to locate.  Thank you.
[04:36] <Blauhaut> http://rafb.net/p/mDOBCB97.html can anybody lep me pls ?
[04:36] <mon^rch> !kompozer
[04:36] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[04:37] <mon^rch> :(
[04:37] <alesan> hi. at boot x-session-manager hangs for about 2 minutes, sucking 100% cpu. is there any idea how to debug this, see what it is doing etc?
[04:37] <mon^rch> kompozer rules... cant wait for it to be finished :P
[04:38] <Blauhaut> http://rafb.net/p/mDOBCB97.html anybody help me ?
[04:39] <dgjones> mon^rch, kompozer seems pretty good, i'm not sure whether there is anything for them to change on it, you can download it and install it and it seems to work fine
[04:39] <_ting_> hello
[04:39] <Lieutenant> Question: I installed KDE onto ubuntu 6.*** and the screen resolution is all wrong, i went into the control center to change it, and there is no setting for it, display is missing from under peripherals, Gnome has the setting, KDE doesn't
[04:39] <Juno> how do I get to a terminal and stop X?
[04:39] <ubuntuEdgy> hi dose any one know what the permision should be for apache files like /var/www
[04:39] <erUSUL> !fixres | Lieutenant
[04:39] <ubotu> Lieutenant: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:40] <nox-Hand> How would I get Firefox to play Apple Trailers?
[04:40] <gi000> why is my tv screen (dvb-t) sometimes only blue?
[04:40] <bob255> juno > sudo killall gdm will stop x
[04:40] <Juno> thanks
[04:40] <Blauhaut> http://rafb.net/p/mDOBCB97.html anybody help me ?
[04:40] <mon^rch> dgjones: I already have it installed :P I am waiting for the finished version (so far the current ver puts a border around the images, they are fixing that)
[04:40] <_ting_> I was wondering if someboy has install a usb VoIp telephone ?
[04:40] <gorrz> nox-Hand, you need a package with the quicktime plugins and such.. lemme find the name for ya
[04:41] <dgjones> mon^rch, ah rite, i've not had that problem with the bits i've done on it
[04:41] <nox-Hand> gorrz: Cheers
[04:41] <_ting_> I bought one two days ago, when i plug it in my computer ubuntu recognize it but it is not working, i need to isntall the driver,
[04:42] <mon^rch> dgjones: http://gardenofeden.dyndns.org (kompozer made) ;)
[04:42] <_ting_> but i can not find it for linux, but is there a way to just make that the micro works
[04:42] <_ting_> ?
[04:42] <_ting_> i am new in linux so..
[04:42] <gorrz> nox-Hand, gstreamer0.10-plugins
[04:42] <dgjones> mon^rch, I see what you mean
[04:42] <TreeStump> hey
[04:43] <nox-Hand> gorrz: Package gstreamer0.10-plugins is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:43] <nox-Hand> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:43] <nox-Hand> is only available from another source
[04:43] <TreeStump> does anyone know why i cant read my ext hdd in ubuntu lastest version? its NTFS
[04:43] <mon^rch> dgjones: mon^rch nods
[04:43] <wizo> how do i know which graphics drivers i should install for my graphics card
[04:43] <gorrz> nox-Hand, try gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[04:43] <gorrz> wizo, whatcha got?
[04:44] <wizo> gorrz, geforce2 go
[04:44] <ari_stress> guys, do you notice that feisty startup is a bit delayed when "configuring network". it's about 45 secods
[04:44] <linux_> how i can clear alt + f2 history ?
[04:44] <pike_> wizo: nvidia-glx-legacy
[04:44] <nox-Hand> gorrz: Already got it :-/
[04:44] <wizo> pike_, thank you
[04:44] <ari_stress> linux_, it got history?
[04:44] <TreeStump> does anyone know why i cant read my ext hdd in ubuntu lastest version? its NTFS
[04:44] <wizo> pike_, how did you know that btw
[04:44] <pike_> wizo: i had an older card about same version
[04:45] <linux_> ari_stress , yes of all the command that you have typed . . .
[04:45] <gorrz> wizo, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_setup_nVidia_drivers_in_7.04
[04:45] <wizo> pike_, ah i see, thanks
[04:45] <liuyang> hello, how to confige hintstyle of kde program?, i need hintslight
[04:45] <mon^rch> I wonder if there are stats somewhere where one can see the number of windows users that have been moved over to ubuntu...
[04:45] <dgjones> wizo, i second what pike_ said, i've got the same card and needed to use the legacy driver
[04:45] <gorrz> nox-Hand, got gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[04:45] <wizo> thanks guys :D
[04:45] <Alloosh> guys, how can I check my computer fan ?
[04:45] <wizo> so all i have to do is to install that, and edit my xorg.conf file?
[04:46] <fyrestrtr> Alloosh: open it up?
[04:46] <mon^rch> stick your finger in it :P
[04:46] <wizo> and change the device to "nvidia" ?
[04:46] <CroX> Anyone got experience with playing Diablo II using wine? I works for me on my laptop but on my stationary it just gives me a black screen and locks the entire computer up.. Allthough I can hear the videos play in the background.
[04:46] <rosensturm> How do I change what swap partition gets mounted?
[04:46] <hsatera> is there an especific way to read nfo files in ubuntu
[04:46] <nox-Hand> gorrz: Just installed it - I can play it now :D
[04:46] <gorrz> nox-Hand, word ^^
[04:46] <Alloosh> HAHAHAHA, funny, the fan is not working and I want to know if its hardware or software error
[04:46] <gi000> using 1280x1024 i cannot see anything from the dvb video stream, with 1024x768  it normally works. why?
[04:46] <Frogzoo> !appdb | CroX
[04:46] <_ting_> hi, is somebody using a VoIP phone in linux ?
[04:46] <ubotu> CroX: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[04:47] <nox-Hand> Thanks gorrz =D
[04:47] <mon^rch> !ekiga
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ekiga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <CroX> Frogzoo: What? How does that help me? I have gotten the game to work perfectly on my laptop (Ubuntu and wine too), but on my stationary it just wont work.
[04:47] <sipior> Alloosh: software error? that seems unlikely. swap out the fan with a replacement, see if that sorts it out
[04:47] <pike_> !sip | _ting_
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <pike_> _ting_: hmm did you have a specific question?
[04:48] <mon^rch> !skype
[04:48] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:48] <_ting_> pike_:  which one are u using?
[04:48] <pike_> _ting_: any sip client. skype is a closed network
[04:48] <sipior> Alloosh: also, make sure it is still connected to the motherboard...
[04:48] <_ting_> pike_:  i bough one a few days ago but i dont know how to installed
[04:49] <pike_> _ting_: i use just a mic and my comp speakers
[04:49] <_ting_> ahh no
[04:49] <pike_> _ting_: bluetooth?
[04:49] <pike_> _ting_: most phones are just mic and speaker
[04:49] <_ting_> i was asking if u r using a VoIP usb phone
[04:49] <gordonjcp> _ting_: depends on the phone
[04:50] <gordonjcp> _ting_: some just appear as a generic audio device, some don't work at all
[04:50] <_ting_> the one that i bough is a usb one, and i can see it using lsusb, but i can not using
[04:50] <_ting_> and i dont know how to install it
[04:50] <hsatera> !google usb voip phone
[04:50] <_ting_> hsatera: i already did that
[04:50] <_ting_> if not i never bother you guys
[04:51] <Stormx2> hsatera: just go to google.com
[04:51] <pike_> _ting_: you might get lucky if you do a google search like 'site:ubuntuforums.org phonemodel' but if its just an audio device someone here should be able to help
[04:51] <_ting_> thanks pike_
[04:51] <_ting_> i will do it
[04:51] <_ting_> thanks everyone
[04:52] <pike_> good luck
[04:52] <logixoul> Hiya - unplugging my net cable makes accessing http://localhost (Apache2) impossible. What gives?
[04:52] <wizo> pike_, i was reading the document.. and it said to run sudo nvidia-xconfig, but i tried and it says command not found
[04:52] <BrokenNub> I burned Feisty64 to a CD, but I can't get it to boot
[04:53] <pike_> wizo: it should be pulled in when you sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[04:53] <BrokenNub> after loading the kernel and such, it stops sending any data to the monitor, which turns itself off, and then everything stops
[04:53] <Pelo> BrokenNub,  did you burn the data to a cd or did you burn an image to the cd ? not the same thing
[04:53] <bob255> logixoul > try pinging localhost to see if it definitely resolves to 127.0.0.1
[04:53] <wizo> pike_, really? :s i just did apt-get isntall nvidia-glx-legacy =(
[04:53] <BrokenNub> Pelo: I burned the image
[04:53] <Pelo> BrokenNub,  what is your video card ?
[04:53] <logixoul> bob255: yup, it does
[04:53] <unagi> is it possible to resize a partition of one dual booted os for another one to have without messing anything up?
[04:54] <BrokenNub> ATI 1800 GT I think ?
[04:54] <BrokenNub> or something
[04:54] <logixoul> bob255: should I try pinging while disconnected too?
[04:54] <effie_jayx> I need help with SAMBA. I set it up and I can see all the shared folders but when I try to access them "it says they can't be found, it might have been removed" :S
[04:54] <Burhan> unagi: no.
[04:54] <hsatera> _ting_: do u have sype over there?
[04:54] <wizo> pike_, do i really need it? can i just edit my xorg.conf file ?
[04:54] <hsatera> sudo apt-get install skype
[04:54] <effie_jayx> I know this is very strange error in Samba
[04:54] <_ting_> hsatera: yes
[04:54] <bob255> logixoul: yep, worth a try
[04:54] <unagi> i cant shrink my ubuntu partition to give unallocated space and then expand the ntfs partition?
[04:54] <logixoul> bob255: k, brb then. thanks
[04:54] <Burhan> unagi: no
[04:54] <Pelo> BrokenNub,  ati does not provide FOSS drivers so they are not part of the vanilla ubuntu,  you need to install using the alternate install cd and then install the proper video drivers afterwards
[04:54] <unagi> why not =(
[04:55] <hsatera> _ting_: in the configs, have u tried to set ur voip usb phone?
[04:55] <pike_> wizo: no you can setup xorg and stuff but go ahead and sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig   then run that other command
[04:55] <_ting_> yes
[04:55] <hsatera> and?
[04:55] <_ting_> i selected usb phone, but it is not working
[04:55] <hsatera> is there any kind of error?
[04:55] <hsatera> or simply does'nt work?
[04:55] <logixoul> bob255: still the same - 127.0.0.1
[04:56] <cidco> can someone give me some direction on getting dual monitors to work with my ati card?
[04:56] <Pelo> !dualhead | cidco
[04:56] <ubotu> cidco: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:56] <Burhan> !xinerama > cidco
[04:56] <_ting_> hsatera: it just doesnt work
[04:56] <godzirra> Howdy folks.
[04:56] <cidco> yjanks
[04:56] <cidco> thanks
[04:56] <logixoul> bob255: other ideas? should I maybe add a separate NetworkManager "device" (or whatever) to use while disconnected??
[04:56] <luyi> jj
[04:56] <wizo> err.. pike_, i did it, and it said that it backed up my xorg.conf file.. is that it?
[04:57] <wizo> and it wrote a new one in,
[04:57] <ggordon> smb.conf not set up right
[04:57] <luyi> kk
[04:57] <_ting_> hsatera: this is what i got when i run lsusb: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 062a:9004 Creative Labs
[04:57] <pike_> wizo: yeah it makes a new one and backs old one up sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart now and test
[04:57] <wizo> pike_, alright thanks
[04:57] <mukiex> Why is it so (bad word)ing hard to share files with a Windows box?
[04:57] <bob255> logixoul: afarid im not too sure
[04:58] <Shaye> When I try to run eggdrop it says i have an eror in line 270 on the config file, how do I get to that line? don't want to start counting now...
[04:58] <logixoul> mukiex: good question
[04:58] <logixoul> bob255: ok, thanks anyway :)
[04:58] <mukiex> Why does it insit on asking for a password for the (badword, diety-oriented)amn guest account?
[04:58] <Pelo> unagi,  I expect you can resize the / partiton to make some space available for other os, but  the space must be contiguous to the partiton you with to expand,  you will need to resize the  ubuntu partion, move it  so the unallocated space is in hte correct position and then extend the partiton you want to ,  you'll need to do this from the live cd
[04:58] <jkessler> what's the command for a command line traceroute?
[04:58] <mukiex> Why I can't I just turn that (male cow excrement) off?
[04:59] <logixoul> heh
[04:59] <_ting_> hsatera: how can i made test to a sound device ?
[04:59] <_ting_> never mind
[04:59] <hsatera> did u tried the skype test call?
[04:59] <Pelo> mukiex, search the forum for no password or blank password, see if anyting comes up
[04:59] <brum> jkessler: traceroute
[04:59] <Juno> what is the default root password?
[04:59] <dxdt> jkessler: you might need to install it or somet hing.
[04:59] <revilodraw> how do i make my usb devices mount with me in supreme control and no restricitons?
[04:59] <Juno> because I just locked myself out of root
[04:59] <dxdt> Juno: is none by default, use sudo
[05:00] <unagi> im not sure i understand moving a partition pelo
[05:00] <Pelo> revilodraw,  they should get mounted automaticaly to the current user
[05:00] <wizo> oh man
[05:00] <wizo> i knew this wouuld happen
[05:00] <Pelo> unagi, basicaly the same as resize but you move the start point
[05:00] <wizo> pike_, it displays a console on boot up.. when i type startx.. the screen goes really black
[05:01] <BrokenNub> my burned copy of Ubuntu can't even check the CD for defects, it just stops midway through :(
[05:01] <stuart87> !grub
[05:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:01] <revilodraw> pelo; they do get mounted but the permissions play up... i wan absolute control
[05:01] <hsatera> _ting_: worked?
[05:01] <Juno> how do I get X to write a log to a different file so I can post the errors I'm getting?
[05:01] <Pelo> revilodraw,  change the owner to the current user   man chown
[05:01] <Juno> it always writes it to xorg.0.log
[05:01] <Pelo> unagi,  do you have gparted installed ? open it up so you see the hdd display
[05:02] <erUSUL> Juno: what's wrong with the default log file?
[05:02] <_ting_> hsatera:  i got the following error: "Call Failed: Problem with Auido Playback"
[05:02] <BrokenNub> nor can I boot in safe graphics mode :(
[05:02] <revilodraw> pelo; very much appreciate your help... how do i do that?
[05:02] <Juno> well... when i try to boot with my nvidia driver I get a lot of errors
[05:02] <BrokenNub> what the hell do I do to computers ?
[05:02] <Juno> but when i change back to VESA to start X it rewrites the log
[05:02] <hsatera> try the settings
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> BrokenNub: What program did you use to burn it?
[05:02] <_ting_> yes i am playing with that
[05:02] <Pelo> revilodraw,   in the terminal  type   man chown   see the synatx to use the command to change the owner,  usualy someiting like   sudo chown /path  username
[05:03] <Juno> the NVIDIA driver says something about an incorrect kernel version
[05:03] <hsatera> set the audo device
[05:03] <BrokenNub> the CD/DVD manager on my roommate's laptop
[05:03] <BrokenNub> burned at a slow speed too
[05:03] <[ifr0g] > Where could i find the latest bug fixes and advisories ?
[05:03] <unagi> pelo done
[05:03] <_ting_> hsatera:  but i got a error when that error when i select the usb device
[05:03] <stuart87> !compiz-decorator
[05:03] <hsatera> can u say the model of the phone?
[05:03] <dicki> lockd: are you there?
[05:04] <dxdt> Juno: are you trying to install the driver from Nvidia's website?  Because you shouldn't do that until you've tried to install it with sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> BrokenNub: I assume that is from Ubuntu correct... You might want to try right clicking the iso and write to dick.. it seems to give people fewer problems
[05:04] <mukiex> It's still asking for a (jesus christ)king password >_<
[05:04] <Juno> eh.. yes I was
[05:04] <Juno> then how do i go about removing the NVIDIA driver I have?
[05:04] <wizo> really need help , after installing the legacy drivers and running that config program, it wont start up anymore
[05:04] <BrokenNub> Jack_Sparrow: yes, it was, that was basically what I did
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> BrokenNub: If you used cd/dvd manager that isnt the same.. but ok... How about checking the md5 checksum on the iso itself
[05:05] <Pelo> unagi,  do you see the part that displays your hdd and the partitions on it ?   you can only resize partitions from the right  (ie move the end point),  so in order to  extent a partition the unallocated space must be to the contiguous to that partition and to the right of it,  so , after you have reduced a partition to make alloccated space you will need to move that partition and / or any other until the unalocated space is directly to the
[05:05] <Pelo> right of the partiton you want to extend ,  get it ?
[05:05] <_ting_> hsatera: "Funky USB VoIP Internet Phone", I bought it in Maplin, so it is just a generic one, But it is based on a Creative Labs Chips
[05:06] <gordonjcp> _ting_: I was looking at those, do they work?
[05:06] <unagi> oh i see
[05:06] <_ting_> gordonjcp: that is what i am trying to setup,
[05:07] <BrokenNub> and apparently my onboard graphics doesn't work at all
[05:07] <_ting_> the point is that i am a newbie using linux so....
[05:07] <unagi> if everything is unmounted i just drag and drop the partition pelo?
[05:07] <Pelo> unagi,  but you need to do this from the live cd because you cannot have any partitions mounted and used while you are doing this
[05:07] <xZeddx> Hi. Im seeking help with a problem that I can't find using google, forums, etc. I tried removing the splash screen in gnome-session via gconf, but it tells me the key is read only despite running in sudo, reinstalling gnome-sessions, etc
[05:07] <gordonjcp> _ting_: does it show up in dmesg?
[05:08] <wizo> can anyone help me? cause i cant go into the fluxbox session anymore after installing nvidia legacy drivers
[05:08] <Jack_Sparrow> BrokenNub: The alt disk cna ofen get past those problems, but I also have a copy of Dapper that seems to work on anything
[05:08] <stuart87> !ubuntu-desktop
[05:08] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[05:08] <Bibleman_Bill> Hello
[05:08] <Kaur> hi
[05:08] <stuart87> hmmmm
[05:08] <BrokenNub> what should the md5 be  ? for 7.04 x64 ?
[05:08] <Bibleman_Bill> Can some one help me with screensaver
[05:08] <Pelo> unagi, no drag and drop, a bit more demanding but not that much,    right click on a  partition in the list, see the  move / resize option  that is what you will be using ,  one step at a time,  basicaly , it may require you to check the info of various partiton and make notes of the end and start points but I thnk you can do it all graphicaly
[05:08] <Kaur> I know this may sound a bit odd, but i need to run a 686 kernel on feisty...
[05:08] <_ting_> gordonjcp: sorry gordonjcp what you mean with dmesg?
[05:09] <gordonjcp> _ting_: pop open a terminal, and type dmesg
[05:09] <_ting_> ok
[05:09] <gordonjcp> _ting_: that's all the messages from the kernel
[05:09] <BrokenNub> I got "a2b159599b69cea51371eee1ec5feda6  ubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso"
[05:09] <erUSUL> Kaur: why?
[05:09] <_ting_> thanks gordonjcp
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> BrokenNub: Look where you d/l the disk.. I dont have it handy
[05:09] <Pelo> unagi,  make sure impotant data ia backed up and degrag and MS partitions before proceeding
[05:09] <Bibleman_Bill> it wont show when its suppose too
[05:09] <gordonjcp> _ting_: you'll notice that if you do that before and then after you plug the phone in, it will blether on about finding a new USB device
[05:09] <Kaur> _ting_: because that is the only kernel where I can get frequency scaleng to work
[05:10] <Kaur> _ting_: scaling
[05:10] <xZeddx> Can anyone please assist me with my problem?
[05:10] <Pelo> unagi,  one final pcs of advice,   apply each step individualy,  even if you have the option to plan them all out and apply all at once,  it will make things much easier
[05:11] <Kaur> _ting_: I even flashed my BIOS but that didn't help... The modules won't load with generic
[05:11] <stuart87> Can someone please tell me how to make a partition bootable for GRUB to use?
[05:11] <unagi> i just dont want to screw up linux
[05:11] <Bibleman_Bill> running Mepis 6.0 on desktop dell optiplx
[05:11] <_ting_> that is the error that i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33245/
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[05:11] <nox-Hand> How would I turn off my DOS speaker in my laptop
[05:11] <Bibleman_Bill> help me please with screensaver why it wont run
[05:11] <unagi> dos speaker?
[05:11] <Kaur> erUSUL: because that is the only kernel where I can get frequency scaleng to work
[05:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:11] <Lieutenant> thanks to YBH_1, my monitor issues are resolved
[05:11] <unagi> you mean your pc speaker?
[05:11] <revilodraw> love ubuntu, but the way it delas with usb devices is pretty bad... it has caused me problems and there is lots of forum action regarding it... all i want to do is have god-like power over my usb device, making me have permission to do whatever i want to it
[05:11] <Pelo> unagi,  there is no 100% garranties on this , you are messing with serious stuff but it's not all impossible to do
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> nox-Hand: try the bios..
[05:11] <_ting_> thanks Kaur, i think that i will still use Windows to make the calls
[05:11] <_ting_> hehe
[05:11] <unagi> nox-Hand: if you mean your pc speaker turn it off in the bios
[05:12] <araizen> how can i find out what programs and/or files a package provides
[05:12] <nox-Hand> unagi: That's the one
[05:12] <nox-Hand> Jack_Sparrow: Will have a looksie
[05:12] <araizen> i.e., the equivalent of 'rpm -ql packagename'?
[05:12] <xZeddx> you can turn your pc speaker off by blacklisting it
[05:12] <krammer> Need help installing java
[05:12] <stuart87> Jack_Sparrow: I got that, I have 3 OS's, and Grub cvan't find the Vista one!
[05:12] <Pelo> !java | krammer
[05:12] <ubotu> krammer: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:12] <Bibleman_Bill> nedd help with screensaver
[05:12] <krammer> Desktop/jre-6u2-linux-i586-rpm.bin. (error message)
[05:12] <Kaur> so... How can I install a 686 kernel on feisty?
[05:12] <txoof> I restored an sql backup and inadvertantly overwrote the debian-sys-maint user.  When I restart the mysql process it complains that access is denied (no duh!).  I know how to change the password for the user, but I'm not sure how to inform mysqladmin of the new password.  Where does it store this?
[05:12] <jrib> araizen: dpkg -L PACKAGE
[05:12] <httpdss> im trying to migrate an m$ access database onto OO base ... or kexi ... and cant get the forms imported from the mdb. is there any way i can get this done ??
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> stuart87: Did vista go on first?
[05:13] <araizen> jrib: thanks
[05:13] <benitecs> need help with Wired
[05:13] <unagi> vista should always go first
[05:13] <revilodraw> my usb device is called M-ROBE... how do i completely own it and have fun permisssion?
[05:13] <stuart87> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, Vista, Ubuntu, XP. In that order
[05:13] <Bibleman_Bill> help with screen saver
[05:13] <unagi> stuart87 start over
[05:13] <Kaur> stuart87: ubuntu should have been the last
[05:13] <unagi> stuart87: vista, xp, ubuntu
[05:13] <wizo> uh oh, i think my system is borked
[05:14] <Bibleman_Bill> Hey Jack_Sparrow  good to see ya
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> stuart87: Post your boot/grub/menu.lst  on the pastebin  someone will figure it out
[05:14] <Burhan> it should be xp, vista then ubuntu
[05:14] <xZeddx> Need help with plash screen =
[05:14] <xZeddx> splash*
[05:14] <wizo> after changing from nvidia to nv in my xorg.conf, i can load my desktop again
[05:14] <BrokenNub> there seems to be a number of people on the forums that have had problems installing the 64-bit version of Feisty ?
[05:14] <unagi> okay....xp vista then ubuntu but ubuntu should be last
[05:14] <unagi> wizo.........want some advice??? back up xorg
[05:14] <AngelEyes1701> Hello. I've installed Ubuntu today for the first time as I am sick of Windows and now trying to change the screen refresh rate. Help?
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> stuart87: It may be fixable as it is..
[05:14] <Bibleman_Bill> can you help me with screensaver Jack
[05:14] <wizo> unagi, yea i backed up already
[05:14] <xZeddx> AngelEyes1701, xrandr in terminal
[05:14] <unagi> =)
[05:15] <Burhan> BrokenNub: 90% of people that try to install 64 bit, really don't know why they are doing -- except to say that they are running 64 bit.
[05:15] <stuart87> unagi: I know I should have done it that way, but I managed to get all 3 installed on different partitions, but now the slot that Vista had (hd0,0) has XP in it
[05:15] <Pelo> wizo,  from the command line,   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  change it back restart
[05:15] <AngelEyes1701> Anyone?
[05:15] <unagi> luckily due to maya having some issues in linux i always have 2 compies
[05:15] <KleRoi> hello, can someone tell me how do i change the DNS of my connections?
[05:15] <Kaur> AngelEyes1701: computer-->preferences
[05:15] <unagi> stuart87: it would just be easiest to reformat and start from the beginning
[05:15] <Burhan> KleRoi: system > administration > networking
[05:15] <xZeddx> Need help with splash screen prob
[05:15] <txoof> Well, that's an awfully insecure system that the debian-sys-maint uses for storing the password.  L A M E.
[05:16] <wizo> Pelo, yea i have changed it from nvidia to nv now. but any idea why it's not working? i installed nvidia-glx-legaxy, and the nvidia config thing.
[05:16] <txoof> the sql password that is.  Why would the pacakage maintainers think it's a good idea to make the password of an all powerful sql user available in plain text?
[05:16] <sgtmattbaker> hello I am back.  I took my 8800GTS out and put it back in
[05:16] <KleRoi> oh, that was easy, thanks Burhan
[05:16] <AngelEyes1701> I also appear to be lagging insanely.
[05:16] <Burhan> txoof: maybe you should argue with mysql
[05:16] <Mariolink> What fily format should a linux partition be?
[05:16] <Pelo> wizo,  no idea why it is not working, I was just giving you a way to change it back so you can get on with things while you figure it out
[05:16] <stuart87> unagi: It took me AGES to get Ubuntu to work with 915resolution, and I had to compile a custom instal for XP because it didn't support my SATA controller. All out, I think it is easier to fix it
[05:16] <Burhan> Mariolink: ext3 for ubuntu
[05:16] <DBLUE> Why when i use "dpkg -i *deb", the packages are installing serial, not with some dependents order.
[05:17] <wizo> *groans*
[05:17] <xZeddx> I tried removing the splash screen in gnome-session via gconf, but it tells me the key is read only despite running in sudo, reinstalling gnome-sessions, etc
[05:17] <sgtmattbaker> I am not getting the continuous system beep when I hit restart in the Ubuntu LiveCD, but I am still having jumpiness and graphical glitches in the BIOS
[05:17] <wizo> this always freaking breaks
[05:17] <txoof> Burhan: I think I need to send an email to the package maintainers.
[05:17] <Mariolink> k thanks
[05:17] <unagi> trust me stuart87 ive been there before......its a pain to set up linux.......its going to be a pain to fix this
[05:17] <Burhan> txoof: I think the issue is with mysql, but you are free to send off emails.
[05:17] <unagi> stuart87: i  havent even fixed it for me..............grub doesnt load until after i get through MS bootloader....
[05:17] <Bibleman_Bill> Will some one please help me
[05:17] <Pelo> later folks
[05:17] <DBLUE> Any answers
[05:17] <revilodraw> how do i gget full control of my usb device?
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> sgtmattbaker: Single continious beep is usually ram.... reseat your ram, or remove one of the chips if multiple are installed
[05:18] <Stormx2> unagi: Sounds like grub wasn't installed to your master boot record.
[05:18] <unagi> grub was installed but i had to reinstall vista
[05:18] <Burhan> unagi: you need to reinstall grub then.
[05:18] <Burhan> unagi: on your mbe
[05:18] <txoof> unagi: vista probably nuked grub.
[05:18] <Burhan> s/mbe/mbr/
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[05:19] <DBLUE> revilodraw, open the folder with gksudo nautilus /media/usb_devicename, the change permission nobody, nogroup
[05:19] <unagi> and since i couldnt figure out how to get grub reinstalled (i tried the guides) i just instald easy bcd
[05:19] <sgtmattbaker> Jack_Sparrow: when you are exiting the LiveCD it always does a single system beep, but once it did a continuous one.  It does not do it when the computer is booting
[05:19] <savetheWorld> sgtmattbaker: I second what Jack_Sparrow says.  To test your RAM use the memtest86 program.  Some system have it available through their boot menu, otherwise you may need to boot to a floppy or Cd that has it on it.
[05:19] <DBLUE> How to install many deb packages, with dependens check?
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sgtmattbaker: Ok....
[05:19] <Bibleman_Bill> :=} Help Please
[05:19] <DBLUE> Jack Sparrow?
[05:20] <Stormx2> DBLUE: Are you sure the packages aren't in the repos?
[05:20] <unagi> Burhan: have a good guide for that?
[05:20] <txoof> sgtmattbaker: the install cd has a memory test program on it.
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: Tag them in synaptic and let it take care of it.
[05:20] <DBLUE> I don't have internet at home!
[05:20] <hershey> ok can someone help me on changing a volume from read only to read and write?
[05:20] <Stormx2> DBLUE: sudo dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb etc etc etc.
[05:20] <Mariolink> I need a swap, a ext3 and a?
[05:21] <sgtmattbaker> my RAM is perfectly fine.  I ran memtest +86 long enough to test my RAM 8 times (both sticks) a couple months ago and they passed flawlessly
[05:21] <robert_> has the latest version of OpenOffice.org ever made anybody's X take a permanent vacation?
[05:21] <W8TAH> there is a channel someplace around here that deals with eyecandy and such for ubuntu -- can someone point me at it -- i cant seem to find it
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: Download them on any ubuntu system you have, then copy var/cache/apt/archives to a cd... use that to install on system without internet
[05:21] <dgjones> Bibleman_Bill, you need to give some detail about what you're having problems with - I saw screensaver but no mention of what the problem was
[05:21] <DBLUE> and how it will do that with 120 packages
[05:21] <DBLUE> done
[05:21] <wizo> pike_, you there?
[05:21] <Kaur> anyone here using a core 2 duo (genuine intel 2300)?
[05:21] <dxdt> W8TAH: #ubuntu-effects
[05:21] <deshantm> robert_, i have been having an issue with openoffice
[05:21] <Bibleman_Bill> How do I get Screen saver to work i got all my settings rite
[05:21] <W8TAH> thanks
[05:21] <stuart87> unagi: if i can mount the Vista partition from /dev/sda1, does that mean that GRUB should be looking at (hd0,1)? Or are they unrelated?
[05:21] <deshantm> robert_: i thought it was just some setting i had
[05:22] <dgjones> Bibleman_Bill, are you using gnome?
[05:22] <hershey> so when i try to change the access properties for volume says dont have permission
[05:22] <Bibleman_Bill> no kde
[05:22] <robert_> hm
[05:22] <piranesi> mi servirebbe un chiarimento su dd, se io faccio l'immagine di una partizione e prima di farla cancello un file su quella partizione grande qualche giga, l'immagine che andr a fare sar pi grande dello spazio effettivo occupato giusto? (in quanto ci saranno punti dell'hd in cui sono scritti dati anche se unlinkati)
[05:22] <pike_> wizo: yeah
[05:22] <robert_> so it isn't just me
[05:22] <BrokenNub> are the official md5sums listed anywhere online ?
[05:22] <hershey> can someone help to change prop of volume plz
[05:22] <dgjones> !it | piranesi
[05:22] <ubotu> piranesi: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:22] <piranesi> sorry
[05:22] <deshantm> robert_: can you describe your experience(s) more?
[05:22] <dxdt> BrokenNub: yeah, they are just in the plain lists of mirrors and stuffs
[05:22] <tsurc_> on feisty ubuntu-xen-server is built with 2.6.19.4 but the headers for that kernel are not available in the repos. I would like to be able to get drbd working too
[05:22] <Bibleman_Bill> kde desktop
[05:22] <robert_> deshantm, my problem happens whenever you try to pull down a menu
[05:23] <Stormx2> Bibleman_Bill: Pfft, jesus doesn't provide ubuntu technical support for you?!
[05:23] <robert_> it forces me to restart it
[05:23] <robert_> er
[05:23] <pike_> hershey: open a terminal and tyep alsamixer  you can use the up and down arrows to adjust volume and the < and > keys to remove the MM mute
[05:23] <Bibleman_Bill> using Mepis 6.0
[05:23] <deshantm> robert_: every time? or just once in awhile?
[05:23] <wizo> pike_, how did you get your card to work? all i get is a dead screen after i type startx into console at start.
[05:23] <robert_> every time
[05:23] <hershey> not volume
[05:23] <deshantm> robert_: i have only had that happen once in awhile
[05:23] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, but the repositories program need some sort of index of the deb's
[05:23] <sgtmattbaker> Jack_Sparrow: so the ram is not the problem
[05:23] <hershey> volume as in another harddrive mounted
[05:24] <hershey> lol sry
[05:24] <pike_> wizo: usually all i need to do is apt-get the glx package and thats it. what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[05:24] <hershey> i guess i ask it all wrong
[05:24] <cmooreusa> anyone uninstall firefox and associated synaptic packages and now after login no desktop?
[05:24] <deshantm> robert_: it doesn't fully lock the computer... i.e. i can't get in via ssh, but even then it doesn't let me kill X or openoffice etc.
[05:24] <Bibleman_Bill> dgjones can you help
[05:24] <Stormx2> cmooreusa: is nautilus installed?
[05:24] <unagi> stuart87: that should be right
[05:24] <robert_> deshantm, hm, calling X a hippie and 'killall -9 Xorg' from console solves it for me
[05:24] <BrokenNub> well, it seems that my md5sum matches, don't know why the install fails then
[05:24] <dgjones> Bibleman_Bill, i'm not sure about KDE, I only use Gnome, you could ask in #kubuntu, they may have a better idea - but with you saying you're using Mepis, they may not be able to help
[05:24] <Mariolink> what kind of partitions do i need? do I need more than a ext3 and a swap?
[05:24] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, what to do
[05:24] <BrokenNub> downloading the text installer atm
[05:24] <cmooreusa> I don't think nautilus is running
[05:24] <robert_> console being ssh
[05:24] <robert_> ah
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormx2:  Be advised he has been banned from Mepis for his sermons
[05:24] <wizo> pike_, what should i look out for
[05:24] <cmooreusa> I didn't see it run
[05:24] <robert_> is ssh running on your box?
[05:24] <hershey> i have a harddrive with files in there however i can't make changes it is only read not read and write
[05:25] <deshantm> robert_: yes i have an ssh server running on it
[05:25] <wizo> pike_, this caught my eye, (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[05:25] <dgjones> Bibleman_Bill, perhaps try #mepis or maybe #kde
[05:25] <hershey> actually total of three harddrives
[05:25] <Bibleman_Bill> Stormx2,:=)
[05:25] <deshantm> robert_: i never tried the kill -9 for xorg
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: What do you mean... I do what I told you to do all the time.. Synaptic looks there before trying to dl the files
[05:25] <hershey> the two additional drive dont allow me to make changes to the file in them
[05:25] <deshantm> robert_: i usually just tried doing gdm stop
[05:25] <medfly> how do i start a script in the background?
[05:25] <sgtmattbaker> to kill xserver just botch your xorg.conf
[05:25] <BrokenNub> downloads do go a bit faster when one has a 12 mbit downstream
[05:26] <sgtmattbaker> and ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:26] <pike_> wizo: that would catch my eye too :) ive gotta replicate a few things for work real quick so maybe somone else here has suggestion
[05:26] <hershey> i just want to change the permission on the two additional drive but it wont let me
[05:26] <tsurc_> Ive got a problem. on feisty, ubuntu-xen-server is built with 2.6.19.4 but the headers for that kernel are not available in the repos. I would like to be able to get xdrbd on the xen host
[05:26] <stuart87> unagi: It definatly won't boot into it though. I'm thinking maybe a bad boot.ini...? The other possibility is that I was running the recovery tool on the CD, and I changed the bootable flag on the XP partition to TRUE. Could this have affected the other partition???
[05:26] <wizo> pike_, oh ok then, thanks =)
[05:26] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, yes i copied the files in there once, but no effect.
[05:26] <wizo> anyone else can help me solve this error from the log? (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[05:27] <unagi> it could........do you not have a back up of the refresh rate conf file you altered to make it easier to do if u reinstalled ubuntu?
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: DOnt know what to tell you, I do it all the time.. Works fine.. you may want to look at !clone
[05:27] <antonio_> salve a tutti
[05:27] <deshantm> robert_: how much RAM on your system... does that seem to be an possible issue... low memory?
[05:27] <Bibleman_Bill> Thank you all very much and God Bless all till we meet again
[05:27] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, you mean all that path to be on the cd
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: Ubuntu should also just see the archinves on the cd and give you a popup as to what you want to do with the cd..
[05:27] <robert_> deshantm, I dunno, does 3gb often cause a problem with OpenOffice?
[05:27] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, and then synaptic will recognize the cd
[05:27] <Mariolink> It says i need a root. How much space does a root need and how do I define one?
[05:28] <ramy__> hey guys, can anyone help in sharing my folders in Ubuntu to a XP desktop and vice versa ? i have already samba, i spent 6 hours trying to make it works, without use :(
[05:28] <hershey> i went to the computer then right-clicked on the harddrive i want to change, then select permission when i change access from readonly to read and write it says cant change it
[05:28] <stuart87> Mariolink, if this wasn't a linux forum, that last comment would have sounded a bit different
[05:28] <sgtmattbaker> Hello, I am having a problem with ym videocard and Ubuntu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33225/
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: There is an option in synaptic to add cd as repo..
[05:28] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, i changed the gdm.conf to allow root login, but still i can't log in as root
[05:29] <hershey> can someone plz help me here
[05:29] <wizo> argh, changing to nvidia totally hangs my laptop
[05:29] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, but i need such a thing
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: Why would you do that.. it is not recommended
[05:29] <Juno> will someone help me get my cd/dvd drive mounted?
[05:29] <WindsofTime> hershey, ask the question not the permission to ask
[05:29] <wizo> someone help please? urgent :(
[05:29] <Juno> wizo- I'm having the same issues
[05:29] <medfly> how do i start something in the background? the fact its not in the background makes it not work right
[05:29] <bulmer> hershey: i just popped in..whats the problem with your puter?
[05:29] <jrib> medfly: something &
[05:29] <BrokenNub> egad, stupid cat
[05:29] <wizo> Juno, really? does your screen go really black?
[05:29] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, for who, for simple people, people who can't deal with problems
[05:29] <medfly> jrib, thanks
[05:30] <Juno> no.. I just can't get the nvidia drivers to load
[05:30] <nubbe> How do I make a script open in a terminal without being asked about edit? open? or open in terminal?
[05:30] <deshantm> robert_: that is what i have... obviously it shouldn't be a problem... but with firefox agressively caching. etc
[05:30] <medfly> jrib, uhm, it still doesnt work :(
[05:30] <rodrigo> uou
[05:30] <jrib> medfly: what doesn't work?
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: If you cant figure out how to transfer an archive or enable cd in synaptic... it was setup for people like you.
[05:30] <wizo> hmm
[05:30] <`Fr`Ed`Do`> hi all
[05:30] <Juno> wizo: have you tried ENVY?
[05:30] <hershey> i went to the computer then right-clicked on the harddrive i want to change, then select permission when i change access from readonly to read and write it says cant change it, how do i change the permission of the drive is the question
[05:30] <gutsy> gutsy tribe4 livecd is sooooo damn nice! :)
[05:30] <`Fr`Ed`Do`> someone are italian?
[05:30] <wizo> Juno, what's that
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: Running as ROOT in NOT a good idea.
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> is
[05:30] <Juno> wizo: google envy feisty
[05:31] <jrib> DBLUE, Jack_Sparrow: take a look at apt-zip for transferring packages to a pc without internet
[05:31] <stuart87> hershey, you may need to be root
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[05:31] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[05:31] <hershey> i went to the computer then right-clicked on the harddrive i want to change, then select permission when i change access from readonly to read and write it says cant change it
[05:31] <bulmer> hershey: 1st thing, for mounted partitions, you must be root to mount and change the perms..
[05:31] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, actually it is, cause i use dpkg -i
[05:31] <wizo> but im not using feisty
[05:31] <jrib> hershey: what filesystem?
[05:31] <sgtmattbaker> does nobody know what is going on
[05:31] <ewook> `Fr`Ed`Do`: try #ubuntu-it
[05:31] <bulmer> hershey:  be patient okay?
[05:31] <medfly> jrib, oh lol, i just found out what the problem was, never mind :)
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: Agreed there are lots of ways...
[05:31] <`Fr`Ed`Do`> ewook, thanks :*
[05:31] <Juno> Jack: I can't even access my restricted drivers
[05:31] <marC--> #.join #compiz-fusion
[05:31] <stuart87> sudo chmod /hdd +rwxrwxrwx
[05:31] <hershey> how do i become root
[05:31] <jrib> !root > hershey (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:31] <ewook> hershey: sudo
[05:32] <Shaye> i installed eggdrop all went fine it's now saying that user file not found and that it can't connect, what do i do?
[05:32] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, and you as that stupid that can install 120 packages manualy, a?
[05:32] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow. sorry
[05:32] <hershey> !root
[05:32] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:32] <ewook> Shaye: did you create a configfile that you start it with +
[05:32] <bulmer> hershey: also please prefix your responses with a nick if you are directing a response
[05:32] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, and who  is that stupid that can install 120 packages manualy, a?
[05:32] <Juno> I'm having major issues trying to install my NVIDIA driver
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: Enjoy your reinstall after you vrash from running as root.
[05:32] <Shaye> ewook no could u explain more please
[05:32] <jrib> Juno: using the restricted drivers manager?
[05:32] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, really?
[05:33] <Mariolink> Well I am installing ubuntu, And im at the patition screen. I made a 2gb swap partition(logical) and a ext3 partition(Primary) but when i press continue it says i have to define a root partition.
[05:33] <Juno> jrib: restricted drivers manager wont even open.  says none of my hardware is using any restricted drivers
[05:33] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, i was loggin as root in SusE, and no problems
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> DBLUE: This is NOT Suse
[05:33] <Juno> err... "DOES NOT NEED ANY RESTRICTED DRIVERS"
[05:33] <ewook> Shaye: the eggdrop needs a well configured config-file to run. so, you more or less start the eggie with eggdrop -[configfile] 
[05:33] <nubbe> How do I make a script open in a terminal without being asked by Gnome about edit? open? Cancel? or Open in terminal?
[05:33] <jrib> Juno: what card?
[05:33] <bulmer> sometimes an experience of a crash is really educational too..learns a few dont do anymore
[05:33] <Juno> jrib: GeForce 8400GS
[05:34] <Luke> Does anyone know of any downsides to JFS aside from no shrinking? Has anyone heard of it deleting files that were corrupt?
[05:34] <DBLUE> Jack_Sparrow, nevermind
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[05:34] <medfly> DBLUE, its mostly a security thing, linux is meant to work when not running as root.
[05:34] <ramy__> hey guys, can anyone help in sharing my folders in Ubuntu to a XP desktop and vice versa ? i have already samba, i spent 6 hours trying to make it works, without use :(
[05:34] <Shaye> ewook i edited the whole config file
[05:34] <hershey> bulmer: so i type.. sudo and what else
[05:34] <riyonuk> My Synaptic Package Manager has been on "Preparing Packages" for a long time, with the orange bar going left and right. Did it get stuck or something?
[05:35] <jrib> Juno: checked bugs.ubuntu.com for bugs about that card?  Also, have you tried installing nvidia-glx-new and enabling it afterwards?
[05:35] <bulmer> hershey you can find out more about sudo via  man sudo    anyways  "sudo su -"
[05:35] <DBLUE> medfly, but i need root account only when installing something, i can't write root password for each package i install
[05:35] <ewook> Shaye: look at http://www.egghelp.org/using.htm , search for userfile
[05:35] <stuart87> DBLUE: sudo -i
[05:35] <wizo> has anyone solved the problem of having a blank laptop screen after installing nvidia-glx drivers?
[05:35] <Juno> jrib: I used aptitude to install nvidia-glx, but not -new.  And I dont know anything about "enabling it afterwards"
[05:36] <DBLUE> i use it
[05:36] <jrib> !nvidia > Juno (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:36] <jrib> Juno: the command should be on that wiki page, let me know if you can't find it
[05:36] <ewook> Shaye: if your just going to use the eggdrop for logging, I'd look for something else. the eggdrop is to complex to manage for just logging :)
[05:36] <wizo> jrib, can you gimme the link as well
[05:36] <jrib> wizo: you can just do this to get ubotu to talk to you:  /msg ubotu nvidia
[05:37] <wizo> thanks
[05:37] <DBLUE> To all try this in terminal >  apt-get moo
[05:37] <wizo> this is my last hope
[05:37] <ewook> jrib: a bot that wants to talk ;)
[05:37] <bulmer> wizo: your X window == ctrl+alt+f7 maybe not be displaying..but your ctrl+alt+f1-f6 consoles should be if it booted okay..so go there and logged in text mode
[05:38] <ewook> DBLUE: why? need milk ?
[05:38] <DBLUE> No.
[05:38] <ewook> :)
[05:38] <DBLUE> Did u see it
[05:38] <wizo> bulmer, my system always starts up into console and asks for a user name and pass word
[05:38] <sgtmattbaker> can anyone please help me?
[05:38] <ewook> yes :)
[05:38] <DBLUE> o, x crashed
[05:38] <wizo> bulmer, it only loads the desktop when i type startx
[05:38] <jrib> !please > sgtmattbaker (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:38] <ewook> sgtmattbaker: yes, more or less everyone.
[05:39] <DBLUE> wizo, with no shutdown option, right
[05:39] <Mariolink> how do i set a root partition?? got a sawp and a ext3 partition
[05:39] <Shaye> ewook what do u mean... it's not only for logging and i wanna use it.
[05:39] <sgtmattbaker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33225 then please look at this paste.  I have posted several times and nobody has bothered to look
[05:39] <pawalls> Is there any way to force something to occur serially w/ the new upstart stuff? I have an init script that takes a little while but *must* be executed before tty's are spawned.. any way to accomplish this? It appears that priority (eg. S10) is completely ignored in /etc/rcX.d
[05:39] <medfly> is there a way to identify what pixel my mouse is pointing at?
[05:39] <ewook> Shaye: aye. that was off topic. did you find any usefull info on the page?
[05:39] <voidPtrLV> could someone recommend a good binary newsgroup reader for ubuntu which is similar to newsbin, etc. for windows ?
[05:40] <bulmer> wizo so you are able to log on...try to google for nvidia and x-window
[05:40] <ewook> sgtmattbaker: sorry, no graphics wiz
[05:40] <t0nedef> voidPtrLV: well i don't know what newsbin is, but a decent binary reader for X is pan
[05:40] <jrib> pawalls: try #upstart as well if no one here knows
[05:40] <ewook> :/
[05:40] <voidPtrLV> thanks tone i'll check it out
[05:40] <t0nedef> voidPtrLV: i hope its what your lookin for
[05:41] <ewook> voidPtrLV: cannot your mail-client handle newsgroups+
[05:41] <medfly> pawalls, slow the tty spawning! :)
[05:41] <ewook> ?
[05:41] <t0nedef> voidPtrLV: but it does have some problems with crashing if you overload it... not that often, but once in a while, but i've yet to find another i like
[05:41] <White_Lightning> hi robin
[05:42] <stuart87> unagi: Just found that my Vista partition has the bootable flag set to on. The only thing is that it is 106GB, but that shouldn't matter, shouldn't it?
[05:42] <FloydFan>  ok.... installing ubuntu. Installatio craped out and droped me to initramfs. added "break=top" to install options, then "modeprobe piix", then "exit". Desktop boots after about 1000 years. Using install is impossibly slow and pretty much haults. Answeres?
[05:42] <wizo> hmm
[05:42] <t0nedef> ewook: he was looking for a binary newsgroup reader, regular mail progs don't seem to handle binary newsfeeds too well
[05:42] <wizo> modprobe nvidia is not showing anything, what do i do
[05:42] <Juno> wizo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:42] <unagi> i dont think so
[05:42] <Juno> there is a link on that page discussing laptop users getting a black screen
[05:42] <Juno> might help
[05:43] <sgtmattbaker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33225 Here is my issue.
[05:43] <ewook> t0nedef: oh. don't even know what that is *_*
[05:43] <ewook> t0nedef: thanks for the note tho :)
[05:43] <medfly> is there a way to identify what pixel my mouse is pointing at?
[05:43] <t0nedef> t0nedef: think P2P from the 80's
[05:43] <t0nedef> ewook: er, well not that old
[05:43] <wizo> sigh
[05:43] <Juno> jwib: I dont see my video card on the supported list on the link you gave me
[05:44] <wizo> Juno, i've already done sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:44] <stuart87> i give up, reinstall
[05:46] <t0nedef> Juno: is your card newer or older?
[05:46] <Juno> newer I believe
[05:46] <Juno> I'm using a brand new laptop
[05:46] <felipe__> Hello, could someone point me to the Ubuntu startup logs?
[05:47] <hershey> bulmer: i change to root in the terminal now what do i change permission of mounted drive?
[05:47] <ewook> clear
[05:47] <ewook> oops
[05:47] <t0nedef> Juno: you'll have to install it directly from nvidia, they have a friendly little text-based installer, it should do all the configs for you, just make sure you install your dev headers first... i'm not sure wich packages they are though... i haven't needed em personally
[05:48] <ewook> logs resides in /var/log
[05:48] <Juno> I've tried using the text based installer and I got an error when I tried to load X saying there was a kernel version error
[05:48] <Juno> or something along those lines
[05:48] <t0nedef> Juno: yah, you didn't have your build headers installed
[05:48] <wizo> hey i don't get it, i have done sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy, why issint modprobe nvidia showing anything?
[05:48] <riyonuk> How in the world do I scroll up in irssi?
[05:48] <t0nedef> Juno... lemme see if i can find you a list of the packages you need to install before your run it
[05:49] <palintheus> Juno, "sudo apt-get build-essentials"
[05:49] <palintheus> I think
[05:49] <hershey> bulmer: you still around?
[05:49] <nubbe> How do I make a script open in a terminal without being asked by Gnome about edit? open? Cancel? or Open in terminal? when I doubleclick it?
[05:49] <t0nedef> Palintheus: yah thats the ones
[05:49] <Juno> another problem... when I use apt-get, it searches for my cd/dvd drive instead of using the net
[05:49] <t0nedef> palintheus: but i think its without the s on the end
[05:49] <bulmer> yes am here...i peek in and out
[05:49] <hershey> t0nedef: once i am root in terminal, how do i change permission of mounted drive?
[05:50] <xtknight> wizo, you need restricted moduoles
[05:50] <xtknight> wizo, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[05:50] <hershey> bulmer: once i am root in terminal, how do i change permission of mounted drive?
[05:50] <Juno> I get an invalid operatino when I use that command
[05:50] <t0nedef> hershey: do you mean from read only to readwrite?
[05:50] <wizo> xtknight, i see, i will try that after it reboots, thanks :D
[05:50] <hershey> yup
[05:50] <medfly> hershey, uh, -o rw?
[05:50] <wizo> xtknight, oh, do i have to reinstall again after i do that?
[05:50] <bulmer> hershey: why do you want to change it ? for which user?
[05:50] <palintheus> t0nedef, yeah, you're right
[05:50] <hershey> t0nedef: yes
[05:50] <xtknight> wizo, reinstall what? no
[05:51] <t0nedef> hershy you gotta remount it read-write
[05:51] <wizo> xtknight, reinstall the drivers
[05:51] <xtknight> wizo, simply type the cmd and 'nvidia' kernel module should appear
[05:51] <xtknight> wizo, reinstall restricted if it's already installed?  sure
[05:51] <hershey> bulmer: root
[05:51] <dennda> Hi, does Feisty Alternate contain a Server-Install?
[05:51] <Juno> palintheus: I get an invalid operation when I try your command
[05:51] <xtknight> wizo, sometimes nvidia.com or ati.coms drivers destroy restricted-drivers on uninstall
[05:51] <medfly> is there a way to identify what pixel my mouse is pointing at?
[05:51] <t0nedef> hershey: heres the long way... umount /dev/sd?; mount /dev/sd? /path/where/mounted
[05:51] <ntbnnt> ...
[05:52] <bulmer> hershey: as root, mount would normally mount it read and write unless you specified read only
[05:52] <t0nedef> hershey: heres the long way... umount /dev/sd?; mount -rw /dev/sd? /path/where/mounted
[05:52] <m1r> dennda : no
[05:52] <t0nedef> meh
[05:52] <palintheus> Juno, did you leave off the 's' off the end? I forgot and t0nedef corrected me
[05:52] <t0nedef> hershey, meh, thats wrong
[05:52] <Juno> yes
[05:52] <dennda> m1r: Does it contain any installer that just installs to a basic command-line-interface? (i do not need any graphical interface)
[05:52] <t0nedef> hershey, i've been awake a long time, let me refresh my memory
[05:52] <wizo> xtknight, they say i already have the newests
[05:53] <m1r> dennda, then install server version
[05:53] <xtknight> wizo, did you reinstall linux-restricted-modules?
[05:53] <riyonuk> Whats the process name of Synaptic?
[05:53] <wizo> xtknight, i type this sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[05:53] <xtknight> riyonuk, synaptic
[05:53] <palintheus> Juno, you can also go to system>administration>Synaptic Package Manager and search for the package and do it that way
[05:53] <dennda> m1r: ok, thank you
[05:53] <Juno> I just used: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[05:53] <xtknight> wizo, okay. type "sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`"
[05:53] <riyonuk> I cant find it in the processes, its not there
[05:53] <Juno> which gave me a few packages to download
[05:54] <palintheus> Juno, that works
[05:54] <bulmer> hershey did you ever get a chance to read  man mount ?
[05:54] <ubuntuEdgy> any one use backuppc ?
[05:54] <Juno> palintheus, aptitude wont download from the net.  it keeps asking me for a cd
[05:54] <Juno> and my cd/dvd drive isnt mounted correctly =\
[05:54] <nubbe> How do I make a script open in a terminal without being asked by Gnome about edit? open? Cancel? or Open in terminal? when I doubleclick it?
[05:55] <ntbnnt> you need to edit your sources.list, ju
[05:55] <ntbnnt> juno
[05:55] <neverblue> morning
[05:55] <wizo> xtknight, ok reinstalled, but modprobe nvidia doesnt show anything
[05:55] <Doujinshi> uh, hello, i was hoping someone could help me. when i try to boot from a 7.04 livecd, i get the error message "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[05:55] <xtknight> wizo, it's not supposed to show anything
[05:56] <xtknight> wizo, if there is no error you're good
[05:56] <palintheus> Juno, use synaptic to edit your sources list and remove the cd from the drive, if its in there
[05:56] <neverblue> Juno, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:56] <Shaye> ewook ill follow that link now
[05:56] <wizo> xtknight, oh ok, cool
[05:56] <neverblue> Juno, are you familiar with nano?
[05:56] <xtknight> wizo, type dmesg for further details
[05:56] <miguel__> hello
[05:56] <Juno> no.  I'm still very new to linux
[05:56] <nemik> does anyone have the problem of a laptop going into suspend when it is unplugged? this is crazy annoying
[05:56] <neverblue> Juno, type that command in a shell
[05:56] <palintheus> Juno, you can use synaptic for a GUI way to do it
[05:57] <wizo> sigh, it still doesnt load X
[05:57] <neverblue> then scroll down to where the CDs are used, and comment out the lines, using #
[05:57] <Juno> nano is a text editor isnt it?
[05:57] <xtknight> nemik, sounds like some sort of ACPI problem.  have you checked your power management settings
[05:57] <neverblue> Juno, correct
[05:57] <xtknight> wizo, post /var/log/X.0.log
[05:57] <ewook> Shaye: k, tell me if it gave you anything. I'll look in my eggie otherwise.
[05:57] <wizo> xtknight, will do in a while, it hanged, gotta reboot
[05:57] <xtknight> wizo, press SysRq+K
[05:57] <hershey> t0nedef:  i tried how u said, ur rite it was wrong
[05:58] <xtknight> wizo, to kill instead of reoboting
[05:58] <Alloosh> I have wireless mouse and keyboard, suddenly the comp went off, and when got it on again the mouse is not working, any idea?
[05:58] <hershey> bulmer: and suggestions?
[05:58] <t0nedef> hershey, mount -w /dev/whatever /wherever/youwantit
[05:58] <FloydFan> ..ide love to try unubtu but its proving impossible to install for me on my dell dimension 4600
[05:58] <bulmer> hershey did you ever get a chance to read  "man mount"
[05:58] <__mikem> Can someone help me get wireless workikng on my notebook?
[05:58] <t0nedef> hershey, thats cuz i had you do the readonly option and the readwrite opting at the same time
[05:58] <neverblue> Juno, then press ctrl-o to save, and ctrl-x to quit
[05:58] <wizo> xtknight, what's stsrq
[05:58] <t0nedef> hershey man 8 mount
[05:58] <Juno> Thanks guys, that fixed it
[05:58] <neverblue> Juno, am I losing you?
[05:59] <xtknight> wizo, sysrq, it's the same as Alt+PrintScreen.  see the top of that key
[05:59] <hershey> bulmer: no i didnt, i will do that doe, thnx
[05:59] <neverblue> Juno, then sudo apt-get update
[05:59] <t0nedef> meh, i'm gettins some sleep
[05:59] <palintheus> Juno, awesome, glad I could help
[05:59] <Doujinshi> can anyone help me?
[05:59] <hershey> t0nedef: thanks! sleep well
[05:59] <xtknight> wizo, (System ReQuest in other words)  it helps you kill stuff without reoboting, and potentially without losing data.  sysrq+S will sync to disk, eliminating the possibility of dataloss when you press reset
[06:00] <t0nedef> hershey: but i didn't really help ya, i jsut confused ya more
[06:00] <ewook> t0nedef: have a good one :)
[06:00] <ewook> Doujinshi: just spill it out :)
 uh, hello, i was hoping someone could help me. when i try to boot from a 7.04 livecd, i get the error message "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[06:01] <xtknight> Doujinshi, , jmicron controller?
[06:01] <Doujinshi> uh
[06:01] <stuart87> what chipset?
[06:01] <wizo> xtknight, ah i see, but my print screen button doesnt work
[06:01] <xtknight> Doujinshi, what kind of PC?
[06:01] <Doujinshi> its an intel santa rosa laptop
[06:01] <wizo> xtknight, http://rafb.net/p/TvJZ2a16.html
[06:01] <palintheus> Doujinshi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588
[06:01] <ewook> odd error for a chipset-bugg
[06:01] <palintheus> It has to do with SATA
[06:01] <Doujinshi> oh
[06:02] <Doujinshi> ok, ill try it
[06:02] <xtknight> wizo, are you using the "nvidia" driver or "nv"?
[06:02] <palintheus> I had the same issue on my laptop
[06:02] <xtknight> Doujinshi, try what?
[06:02] <xtknight> Doujinshi, not yet :P
[06:02] <Doujinshi> paluntheus link
[06:02] <wizo> xtknight, right now? xorg.conf has "nvidia"
[06:02] <xtknight> oh
[06:02] <Doujinshi> oh?
[06:02] <xtknight> that's fine
[06:02] <xtknight> i didnt see it.
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Doujinshi: I ended up having to use the alt install cd to get past that on one computer and just reburned the cd at a very slow speed fixed it on the other.
[06:03] <xtknight> wizo, hmm well i dont see the nvidia module even loading in the X.org log
[06:03] <stuart87> you may need extra drivers. I assume you have a laptop?
[06:03] <wizo> xtknight, oh noes :o but when i type lsmod | grep nvidia i get 2 results
[06:03] <xtknight> wizo, hmm so your screen just freezes?
[06:03] <xtknight> wizo, (when you start X)
[06:04] <wizo> nvidia 3921884 0  and agpgart 34888 2 nvidia, intel_agp
[06:04] <medfly> is there a way to identify what my mouse is pointing at?
[06:04] <wizo> xtknight, when i type startx, it'll load a blank screen, then suddenly the screen will go blank, like the laptop is shutdown
[06:05] <xtknight> wizo, weird.  can you post xorg.conf?
[06:05] <wizo> super headache
[06:05] <wizo> xtknight, sure thing
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> medfly: You keep asking the same question.. You need to define what you are doing or needing to do...  What language you are tryig to program in or ?  Pointing to a pixel, a window or an object in or on that window
[06:06] <wizo> xtknight, http://rafb.net/p/26O4Z977.html
[06:06] <medfly> Jack_Sparrow, well, yeah, im hoping i might get a reply. i thought maybe making the question more general will help. a pixel in this case.
[06:07] <medfly> Jack_Sparrow, sorry.
[06:07] <xtknight> medfly, take a screenshot and edit it in gimp?  then you can tell pixel #, i think
[06:07] <xtknight> wizo, your laptop's lcd is 1024x768 native?
[06:08] <wizo> xtknight, errr.. no idea :s
[06:08] <wizo> it's a 15 inch i think
[06:08] <medfly> xtknight, uhh, i dont think i wanna resort to that, but i thought of that option. i mean, i wanna make a coolio program, for myself. and i want it to be able to identify what pixel my mouse is pointing at.
[06:08] <xtknight> wizo, what laptop model?
[06:08] <chenchen> is there any sftp front end??
[06:08] <chenchen> i search through SPM, but cannot found any
[06:08] <xtknight> medfly, looking for an API/
[06:08] <wizo> xtknight, toshiba satellite 3000, about 6 years now
[06:09] <medfly> xtknight, i guess. im too new to this to know what i need to do
[06:09] <xtknight> wizo, ok that is 1024x768 native. hmm
[06:09] <wizo> xtknight, sigh, this problem is so annoying
[06:09] <xtknight> medfly, you're making a program and you want to know what pixel your mouse is at, but you're new to programming?
[06:10] <xtknight> wizo, use regular "nv" drivers?
[06:10] <Juno> To those who were helping me install my video driver a moment ago.. THANK YOU
[06:10] <medfly> xtknight, well, yeah. i guess..
[06:10] <riyonuk> A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[06:10] <riyonuk> must be available in order to run Eclipse. What does this mean?
[06:10] <medfly> xtknight, i can program a little, but only basic things :)
[06:10] <palintheus-work> Juno, np glad it worked
[06:10] <wizo> xtknight, i guess i have no choice.. but i need it cause i need to use openGL for my homework :(
[06:10] <xtknight> wizo, i thought nv had some open source acceleration, i could be wrong.  maybe that was radeon
[06:11] <Juno> I'm sure I'll be back later with more questions though ;)
[06:11] <jetscreamer> it means install the java
[06:11] <medfly> riyonuk, that you gotta have one of those two installed to be able to run eclipse.. ?
[06:11] <jetscreamer> !java
[06:11] <xtknight> wizo, hmm see if "nouveau" has any open source glx drivers for gf2 (doubt it), or check nvidia.com for legacy gf2 drivers and try those..
[06:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:11] <wizo> xtknight, i see, thanks anyway =)
[06:11] <Jonatha1> HOWLINGMADHOWIE
[06:11] <Doujinshi> uh
[06:11] <benzs_s> how do i go about compiling/installing (or whatever) this? https://core.fluendo.com/gstreamer/trac/changeset/792
[06:11] <riyonuk> Where is java in synaptic?
[06:12] <faileas> anyone has any idea how big a totally minimal ubuntu install is?
[06:12] <Doujinshi> now it says "failed to start the X server (your graphical interface)"
[06:12] <benzs_s> riyonuk: search for 'java'
[06:12] <TAG> does any one no what this is and what to do to solved it?E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[06:13] <ewook> TAG: well, bring up a terminal and do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:13] <Doujinshi> "fatal server error: no screens found"
[06:13] <medfly> faileas, uhm, ubuntu is the kind of linux distro youd want when you have alot of space.
[06:13] <TAG> i try that thanks
[06:13] <xtknight> medfly, cant really help you there but it would be in X.org (X11) documentation
[06:13] <medfly> xtknight, thanks
[06:13] <riyonuk> Umm whoever talking to me, I cant even see your name, its in bright yellow :D
[06:13] <riyonuk> So do I enable multiverse?
[06:13] <kidbuntu>  #java
[06:13] <kidbuntu> ##java
[06:13] <ewook> faileas: xubuntu comes more or less as minimal as ubuntu gets with all default packages.
[06:13] <faileas> medfly: Yeah but i need a fairly minimal install so was wondering what to go for
[06:14] <gordonjcp> riyonuk-nothighlighting: are you using irssi in a terminal?:
[06:14] <Crane_> faileas: how minimal are you wanting
[06:14] <riyonuk> Also, in synaptic sources, why are there 2 cd rom sources?
[06:14] <riyonuk> Yes
[06:14] <xtknight> benzs_s, what's it for?
[06:14] <riyonuk> And I have no idea what Im doing :D
[06:14] <faileas> crane: minimal desktop environment, java
[06:14] <moriancumer> faileas: ubuntu-server is the most minimal install. no gui
[06:14] <Crane_> faileas: you could use server install then add to it
[06:14] <wizo> sigh
[06:14] <benzs_s> fluendo gstreamer has a bug which causes it to close on playing some mp3s
[06:14] <wizo> screw this
[06:14] <benzs_s> apparently this fixes it
[06:14] <Crane_> of
[06:14] <ewook> moriancumer: well, ya :).
[06:15] <Crane_> oh
[06:15] <wizo> thanks for your efforts xtknight
[06:15] <xtknight> benzs_s, ahh ok
[06:15] <moriancumer> ewook: :)
[06:15] <ewook> moriancumer: if you neglect the purpouse of it to come with LAMP.
[06:15] <WindsofTime> **Does anyone know how to install XAMPP on Linux via making a folder in ops and creating a script to have the server run at Startup?**
[06:15] <xtknight> wizo, no problem
[06:15] <benzs_s> by 'it' i mean any media player
[06:15] <xtknight> benzs_s, you need the gstreamer source.  make a working dir in your /home, like "mkdir /home/$USER/gstreamer"
[06:15] <riyonuk> omgz, download a movie, cant even play it o_O
[06:15] <Doujinshi> "no screens found" what does this mean?
[06:15] <xtknight> benzs_s, and dont download anything yet.  it's easier than this
[06:15] <benzs_s> rgr
[06:15] <xtknight> Doujinshi, it means your X org is configured improperly
[06:16] <moriancumer> ewook: I use ubuntu-server on an old laptop as a desktop
[06:16] <riyonuk> is it sun java 5 or 6?
[06:16] <riyonuk> Which is better?
[06:16] <Doujinshi> how do i configure it, then?
[06:16] <wizo> xtknight, how do i make it load nvidia modules at startup?
[06:16] <faileas> crane_: probably using alternate CD. just want a rough idea of size
[06:16] <xtknight> benzs_s, feisty?
[06:16] <ewook> riyonuk: well, this is universe is controlled by what kind of packages you can ship with a distro, so your video prolly needs stuff not able to ship directly, you need to get it yourself :)
[06:16] <benzs_s> xtknight: yep
[06:16] <xtknight> wizo, add  "nvidia" to the end of /etc/modules
[06:17] <xtknight> benzs_s, cd /home/$USER/gstreamer
[06:17] <benzs_s> rgr
[06:17] <ewook> moriancumer: smart idea, if you want a deb-based workstation that is minimal and gets updated more often then deb ;)
[06:17] <mzanfardino> I need to start a service on my server after everything else has started.  Currently I'm using an autologin proceedure which logs in a dummy user, but I'd rather not do it this way.  Is there another way to spool a script after everything is done loading that is as reliable in it's timing as having it spawn when a user logs in?
[06:17] <xtknight> benzs_s, sudo apt-get build-dep gstreamer0.10
[06:17] <xtknight> benzs_s, this will d/l the dependencies you need for compiling it.
[06:17] <ewook> mzanfardino: cron-job
[06:17] <benzs_s> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/download.tuxfamily.org_syzygy42_dists_feisty_avant-window-navigator_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[06:17] <riyonuk> What would one reccomend for playing movies? VLC?
[06:17] <Doujinshi> how do i configure the X org?
[06:17] <xtknight> benzs_s, sudo apt-get update
[06:18] <ewook> riyonuk: that would be my recommendation for win/linux ya :)
[06:18] <mzanfardino> ewook: yeah?  I can have cron-job spawn a script following boot?  How might I configure that?
[06:18] <ewook> oh, it exits for os-x as well.
[06:18] <xtknight> Doujinshi, well, to fix it, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and choose vesa, the standard driver
[06:18] <benzs_s> xtknight: after update, still the same error
[06:18] <xtknight> benzs_s, i guess you're going to have to comment out that repository for now
[06:18] <riyonuk> I really dont like the way ubuntu feels, everything all curvy and orange -_-
[06:18] <ewook> !cron
[06:18] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[06:18] <xtknight> benzs_s, you dont have synaptic open right?
[06:18] <xtknight> benzs_s, or any other installers
[06:18] <FloydFan>  ok.... installing ubuntu. Installatio craped out and droped me to initramfs. added "break=top" to install options, then "modeprobe piix", then "exit". Desktop boots after about 1000 years. Using install is impossibly slow and pretty much haults. Answeres?
[06:18] <xtknight> benzs_s, or update manager..
[06:18] <wizo> sigh
[06:18] <ewook> need to read up myself :)
[06:19] <benzs_s> lol nothing's open atm
[06:19] <benzs_s> i'll open synaptic
[06:19] <xtknight> benzs_s, no we dont want them open
[06:19] <xtknight> benzs_s, they will conflict with apt..
[06:19] <benzs_s> oh ok
[06:19] <SORMANOV> hello all
[06:19] <ewook> damn... beer-can > /dev/bin/ =/
[06:19] <xtknight> benzs_s, but you'll have to go in your sources.list and remove tuxfamily.  it must be down now or something
[06:19] <benzs_s> rgr ok
[06:19] <SORMANOV> i need to mount my memory stick card pro duo
[06:20] <jetscreamer> ok go ahead
[06:20] <benzs_s> where would i find sources.list?
[06:20] <jetscreamer> /etc/apt
[06:20] <riyonuk> exit
[06:20] <riyonuk> quit
[06:20] <benzs_s> o ye
[06:20] <xtknight> benzs_s, gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:20] <benzs_s> ty
[06:20] <SORMANOV> when i plug the card, dmesg tell me this:
[06:20] <jetscreamer> /quit
[06:20] <SORMANOV> [  352.128000]  tifm_core: MemoryStick card detected in socket 0:0
[06:20] <riyonuk> thank you :D
[06:20] <moriancumer> ewook: runs lightning fast and I don't feel like I'm going without. Watch movies, edit photos, email, internet, etc.... It's great
[06:20] <WindsofTime> **Does anyone know how to install XAMPP on Linux via making a folder in ops and creating a script to have the server run at Startup?**
[06:20] <jetscreamer> mount -t auto /dev/whatever /mountpoint
[06:21] <lgc> Hi! What's the name of the file dpkg keeps its list of installed packages?
[06:21] <ewook> moriancumer: well, ya of course is it does :). that's how a server is supposed to work, no unneccesary stuff :)
[06:21] <benzs_s> xtknight: the dependencies are downloading :)
[06:21] <xtknight> benzs_s, ok
[06:21] <xtknight> benzs_s, now download the "unified diff" at the bottom of that page
[06:21] <hsatera> what is a good disc recorder?
[06:21] <xtknight> benzs_s, right click, save target as...
[06:21] <hsatera> burner
[06:21] <xtknight> benzs_s, and name it "gst-792.diff" in /home/user/gstreamer so we're on the same page
[06:21] <lgc> hsatera, k3b, gnomebaker
[06:22] <nubbe> How do I make a script open in a terminal without being asked by Gnome about edit? open? Cancel? or Open in terminal? when I doubleclick it?
[06:22] <Falstius> hsatera: for the stuff I do (backups on DVD mostly and burning ISOs) I just use the built in one.
[06:22] <benzs_s> xtknight: done
[06:22] <hsatera> and brasero?
[06:23] <wizo> hey, is this envy program that i've heard about only work with feisty? what about 6.06 server edition?
[06:23] <ticnailer69> hey guys
[06:23] <xtknight> benzs_s, trying to find the package that contains the source code we need
[06:23] <lgc> Hi! What's the name of the file dpkg keeps its list of installed packages? Anyone?
[06:23] <SORMANOV> anyone ?
[06:23] <benzs_s> rgr
[06:24] <piranesi> I need a software who delete PERMANENTLY the unused space on an disk (writing zeros), who can help me?
[06:24] <ticnailer69> I want to encrypt my not work with a wep key and a new essid....I  used network admin and I changed the essid and the key and then when I do a iwlist scan I still get : belkin54g etc...
[06:24] <pike_> lgc: /var/lib/dpkg/status?
[06:24] <xtknight> benzs_s, i dont think ubuntu even has a package with that..hmm
[06:25] <lgc> pike_, right! Thanks!
[06:25] <benzs_s> xtknight: well i am working solely on the basis of these two posts: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459383&highlight=fluendo&page=2
[06:25] <pike_> piranesi: cat /dev/zero > file.temp; rm file.temp  ?
[06:25] <xtknight> benzs_s, there is gst-fluendo-mpegdemux-0.10 but i cant find the files to ptach
[06:25] <benzs_s> ah
[06:25] <kidbuntu> how do i install amaroks mp3 support on terminal.?
[06:26] <WindsofTime> 3rd times the charm.....   **Does anyone know how to install XAMPP on Linux via making a folder in ops and creating a script to have the server run at Startup?**
[06:26] <pike_> piranesi: there is an app called wipe also but if youre looking for secure ie selling the computer or something i wouldnt 100% trust it on journaled fs
[06:26] <Kasle> i've just installed bcm43xx-fwcutter... but i have to write sudo modprobe bcm43xx in a terminal every time i boot to get it working.. can anyone help?
[06:26] <wizo> nothing works :(
[06:26] <gargan> are there any known issues with getting an address from dhcp from a dhcp server running on windows 2000?
[06:26] <wizo> i even tried dkpg xserver-xorg
[06:26] <ConstyXIV> Kasle: add bcm43xx to /etc/modules
[06:27] <Kasle> ConstyXIV: how do i do that? gedit?
[06:27] <ConstyXIV> Kasle: yeah, sudo gedit /etc/modules
[06:28] <benzs_s> gksu gedit
[06:28] <Kumaru> can i load ubuntu on a system, make changes, copy the files to the HDD, then use them to modify the iso?
[06:28] <Kasle> ConstyXIV: thanks man!
[06:28] <kidbuntu> how do i install amaroks mp3 support on terminal.?
[06:28] <kidbuntu> !amarok
[06:28] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[06:28] <ConstyXIV> piranesi: i dunno about unused space, but you can just cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda1
[06:28] <xtknight> benzs_s, okay you need to download gstreamer svn
[06:28] <Happu> !mp3 | kidbuntu
[06:28] <ubotu> kidbuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <xtknight> benzs_s, you cant just apply that one patch
[06:29] <benzs_s> i see
[06:29] <ConstyXIV> piranesi: warning: that will wipe drive in question
[06:29] <mweichert> hey, I have a default Apache setup... but when I go to http://localhost/cgi-bin, apache is trying to read from /var/www/cgi-bin instead of /usr/lib/cgi-bin
[06:29] <lostat_C> Hi. I am looking for a way to put icons in a bar that will really hide itself when not in use and show up when I mouseover a specific area. I am using XFCE for ubuntu 7.04 and don't want to resort to using ugly panels. Any ideas? oh yeah I don't want to use Beryl or any of the fancy 3d stuff if I can also avoid that.
[06:29] <jonah> hey geezers, all my shortcuts, file name extensions and desktop links have been a mess for a while now, stuff doesnt double click etc - i'm using feisty, is there a way to reset it all back to work?
[06:29] <ticnailer69> I want to encrypt my network with a wep key and a new essid....I  used network admin and I changed the essid and the key and then when I do a iwlist scan I still get : belkin54g etc..
[06:29] <ticnailer69> what can I do?
[06:29] <sparr> when i send backspace over a telnet connection, i get a space or a funky character.  what can fix that?
[06:29] <ConstyXIV> ticnailer69: first, do you have another machine with wifi nearby?
[06:30] <Doujinshi> ok, i reconfigured the x sever
[06:30] <Doujinshi> now how do i try to boot it again?
[06:30] <ConstyXIV> Doujinshi: ctrl-alt-backspace restarts x
[06:30] <BrokenNub> anybody actually know why the liveCD install version of 7.04 x64 seems to fail on so many peoples' machines ?
[06:31] <Kumaru> douhinshi, do you have the problem with x server, not allowing a computer to boot?
[06:31] <Doujinshi> well, it gave me an error, and then threw me back to the command line
[06:31] <Doujinshi> then i configured it, and now i have no clue what to do now
[06:32] <ConstyXIV> Doujinshi: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:32] <benzs_s> xtknight: the dependencies just installed, where do i find gstreamer svn?
[06:32] <xtknight> benzs_s, you have to compile a lot of things
[06:32] <lgc> piranesi, 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/your_device bs=4k'. But this will also do away with the partition table. If not, then do the same, but with bs=512 skip=2. Better check the dd manual.
[06:32] <xtknight> benzs_s, you can't do it with apt-get
[06:32] <Doujinshi> uh
[06:32] <Doujinshi> starting gnome display manager failed
[06:33] <benzs_s> sigh
[06:33] <benzs_s> xchat has all htese amazing ways of closing itself
[06:33] <xtknight> benzs_s, you can't do it with apt-get
[06:33] <ConstyXIV> Doujinshi: is that all it says
[06:33] <xtknight> benzs_s, you have to compile a lot of things
[06:33] <benzs_s> ah
[06:33] <ticnailer69> ConstyXIV: NO, I dont,sorry
[06:33] <benzs_s> is it more trouble than its worth?
[06:33] <xtknight> benzs_s, probably.  gutsy will be out in awhile
[06:33] <pike_> Doujinshi: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:33] <Dusk_> i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start
[06:34] <benzs_s> i suppose i can handle not listening to bowie for a while yet ;)
[06:34] <xtknight> benzs_s, if you really want to you can probably find a guide on it>.. "compile gstreamer" or something similar
[06:34] <benzs_s> thanks for your help anyway, xtknight :)
[06:34] <pike_> Doujinshi: you want the tail end of it
[06:34] <benzs_s> rgr
[06:34] <xtknight> benzs_s, or use ffmpeg instead.  mplayer/xine etc
[06:34] <ConstyXIV> ticnailer69: first, i would check your router's config page (which on belkins is usually 192.168.2.1)
[06:34] <benzs_s> ffmpeg gives a severely reduced sound quality for some reason
[06:34] <xtknight> benzs_s, wow what kind of media is this?
[06:34] <benzs_s> just mp3s
[06:34] <xtknight> um i never have trouble with them ?
[06:34] <xtknight> :\
[06:34] <benzs_s> yeah it's weird
[06:35] <Doujinshi> pike, it says quite a bit
[06:35] <ticnailer69> ok
[06:35] <benzs_s> ** ERROR **: file mp3-c.c: line 518 (III_huffman_decode): assertion failed: (i <= SSLIMIT * SBLIMIT)
[06:35] <benzs_s> aborting...
[06:35] <benzs_s> Aborted (core dumped)
[06:35] <Doujinshi> "fatal server error, no screens found"
[06:35] <Dusk_> i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???
[06:35] <benzs_s> a good 20% of my mp3s make every media player do that
[06:35] <benzs_s> and it's due to fluendo, apparently
[06:35] <xtknight> benzs_s, maybe your mp3s have errors?  i dont know
[06:35] <benzs_s> oh probably something like that
[06:35] <xtknight> benzs_s, you dont have to use fluendo though.  uninstall that and try gstreamer-  .. - ffmpeg
[06:36] <benzs_s> pretty sure that's the one which rubbish sound quality, but i'll try again anyway
[06:36] <xtknight> ya definitely mp3 file problems
[06:36] <lhot> hello
[06:36] <Doujinshi> meh, maybe i should just give this one up
[06:36] <Doujinshi> every time i solve something, a new problem arises
[06:36] <lhot> im having sound problems (i.e. no sound)
[06:36] <dredhammer> is there a way to create a bridged network with virtualbox in Feisty? The guides i saw on the forums seem to be for edgy and don't work in Feisty
[06:37] <Dusk_> i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???
[06:37] <lgc> My screen lock doesn't work on my newly-upgraded-to edgy. The volume control applet on the bar also doesn't. The soothing Ubuntu brown on my gnome-terminals is gone. Is this a common failure? Thanks.
[06:37] <kidbuntu> !beryl
[06:37] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:37] <Dae__> hello..i am trying to mount my ntfs partition an i get the error mount: /media/hda1 is not a block device
[06:37] <benzs_s> breyl kills your computer
[06:37] <ConstyXIV> Dae__: you want /dev/hda1
[06:38] <ConstyXIV> Dae__: not /media/hda1
[06:38] <Dae__> ConstyXIV: oh...ok thx:))
[06:38] <bdheeman> benzs_s: kills? or murders?
[06:38] <ConstyXIV> Dae__: like this: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[06:38] <benzs_s> hehe
[06:38] <pike_> Dae__: of course with ntfs youd want like mount -o umask=000 blah blah
[06:39] <benzs_s> xtknight: yep, ffmpeg distorts massively at the higher volumes
[06:39] <benzs_s> on all mp3s
[06:39] <pike_> or something
[06:39] <ticnailer69> ConstyXIV: yeah for some reason I cant connect to 192.168.2.1
[06:39] <bdheeman> benzs_s: you need to be specifc ...
[06:39] <benzs_s> bdheeman ?
[06:40] <e-Hernick> benzs_s: are you sure it's ffmpeg? Have you tried other audio applications?
[06:40] <benzs_s> yes
[06:40] <benzs_s> rhythmbox, amarok, banshee, xmms
[06:41] <Dae__> pike_: i mounted it with -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[06:41] <e-Hernick> benzs_s: so you're trying to play MP3s with the ffmpeg command-line utility?
[06:41] <ConstyXIV> ticnailer69: okay, make sure you're connected to your router (by ethernet if you must) and type ifconfig, it should list your ip somewhere (probably 192.168.xxx.yyy).  to get to the config page, you'll want to put 192.168.xxx.1 in firefox
[06:41] <Dusk_> i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???
[06:41] <Dusk_> i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???
[06:41] <Dusk_> i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???
[06:41] <Dusk_> i'm having Error 22 on ubuntu start...i want to reinstall grub is it possible???
[06:41] <Paddy_EIRE> !patience | Dusk
[06:41] <ubotu> Dusk: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:41] <e-Hernick> Dusk_: yes, it is possible
[06:41] <Dusk_> !thanks | Paddy_EIRE
[06:41] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:41] <bdheeman> benzs_s: I'm in this business since 1982 and have never seen a software killed someone computer
[06:41] <PriceChild> Dusk_, please don't abuse the bot.
[06:41] <benzs_s> e-Hernick: err, don't think so :o no, i just uninstalled fluendo to give ffmpeg a try
[06:42] <benzs_s> oh
[06:42] <benzs_s> lol
[06:42] <Matic`Makovec> Is there a player that can play .rm files?
[06:42] <ramy__> please if any one know how tell me, i got a headache after 6 hours of searching :(
[06:42] <ewook> !pat
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <benzs_s> beryl didn't 'kill' my computer :P
[06:42] <lgc> Dusk_, 'man grub-install'.
[06:42] <Paddy_EIRE> !grub | Dusk_
[06:42] <ubotu> Dusk_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:42] <ntbnnt> !love
[06:42] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[06:42] <benzs_s> exaggerating etc
[06:42] <PriceChild> Matic`Makovec, get "w32codecs" from something liks medibuntu and you can play them fine.
[06:42] <benzs_s> the fluendo/ffmpeg business is something else entirely
[06:42] <PriceChild> !mp3 | Matic`Makovec
[06:42] <ubotu> Matic`Makovec: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <Dusk_> e-Hernick how can i fix the grub?? it was hda6 but it's hda5 now so it doesn't start
[06:43] <Matic`Makovec> Alrighty, thanks
[06:43] <ticnailer69> ok
[06:43] <e-Hernick> Dusk_: have you read the GrubHowto page on help.ubuntu.com ?
[06:43] <ticnailer69> one min
[06:43] <Dusk_> e-Hernickok i'm trying sudo grub
[06:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Dusk_: did you read the grub ubuntu wiki entry ubotu gave
[06:43] <Dae__> thx ppl
[06:43] <Dae__> bb
[06:43] <lgc> Dusk_, edit the grub options when you boot up.
[06:43] <Dae__> exit
[06:44] <SineFato> how do you switch to the cd rom drive in the command line
[06:44] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: its normally mounted in media
[06:44] <e-Hernick> SineFato: do you know what the 'mount' and 'cd' commands are ?
[06:44] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: sorry thats /media
[06:44] <bazookatooth> ## i'm having a problem... i have two Dell Monitors. one at home, and one at work. both are 21 inch widescreens, but different models. at home, my ubuntu laptop works perfectly when i hook it up to the monitor. at work, its unusable. i've tried every driver (fglrx, ati, radeon) to no avail.. and only three resolution options show up in the gui config -- even though i changed all of them to 1680 x 1050 in the xorg.conf... HALP, PLZ!!!!!
[06:44] <SineFato> e-hernick: i know cd, not a clue about mount
[06:44] <e-Hernick> SineFato: if you type 'mount' by itself it'll give you a list of all mounted drives, including your cdrom if it is mounted. it's probably in /media/cdrom.
[06:44] <bazookatooth> i would really like to be able to use my ubuntu machine instead of os x at work.
[06:44] <lgc> Dusk_, or edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change every suitable entry to the new partition
[06:45] <anto9us> SineFato: just try - cd /media/cdrom
[06:45] <Matic`Makovec> Well, it didn't really help PriceChild :o
[06:45] <PriceChild> Matic`Makovec, you have w32codecs installed?
[06:45] <Matic`Makovec> I got w32codecs anyways and the URLs say nothing about .rm
[06:45] <BigToe7000> how do I disable ACPI in the live CD, and then in ubuntu when it installs?
[06:45] <Matic`Makovec> Of course
[06:45] <SineFato> cooly, thanks
[06:45] <e-Hernick> Matic`Makovec: afaik .rm compatibility isn't the best with anything other than realplayer
[06:45] <BigToe7000> bear in mind I've just started downloading the live CD and it'll be a while until I actually install it
[06:46] <e-Hernick> Matic`Makovec: but I've had some success playing rmvb with mplayer+win32codecs
[06:46] <PriceChild> Matic`Makovec, the codecs in ubuntu handle _everything_ except for dvds (libdvdcss) and "a few" realmedia.... it "should" be completed by using w32codecs...
[06:46] <e-Hernick> BigToe7000: why do you think you want to 'disable ACPI'
[06:46] <BrokenNub> dammit.
[06:46] <PriceChild> Matic`Makovec, but if all else fails i guess installing the seperate realplayer app is the only option
[06:46] <BrokenNub> now the install worked fine, but it won't boot.'
[06:46] <Matic`Makovec> PriceChild, well what program should I use with it then?
[06:46] <e-Hernick> BigToe7000: what do you think disabling ACPI would help you with?
[06:46] <BigToe7000> e-Hernick I have a faulty ACPI thing
[06:46] <Falstius> BigToe7000: it is either noacpi or acpi=off in the kernel options.
[06:46] <BigToe7000> ok, thanks
[06:47] <e-Hernick> BigToe7000: and you know that for sure? you can't, for example, reflash your BIOS to fix your broken ACPI?
[06:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !acpi
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <BigToe7000> e-Hernick, I don't have a floppy disk and I can't do it from inside linux or windows
[06:47] <BigToe7000> e-Hernick, I can't even get into windows or ubuntu!
[06:47] <BigToe7000> :S
[06:47] <Matic`Makovec> Hrm, PriceChild  and e-Hernick : realplayer:
[06:47] <Matic`Makovec>  Odvisen od: xlibs  but it is not installable
[06:47] <Matic`Makovec> Means it depends on xlibs
[06:48] <Matic`Makovec> And you understand the rest
[06:48] <BigToe7000> Falstius, if I put noacpi and acpi=off will it generate an error or just ignore the one that doesn't work?
[06:48] <PriceChild> Matic`Makovec, xlibs.... like libX11 ?
[06:48] <PriceChild> Matic`Makovec, where's this package from?
[06:48] <e-Hernick> BigToe7000: try both.. if I get it right, your computer isn't even booting right now, so you've got little to lose
[06:48] <Matic`Makovec> Uhm, what do you mean? I tried it with apt-get
[06:48] <e-Hernick> BigToe7000: but do check your BIOS settings..
[06:48] <BigToe7000> e-Hernick, it loads but it's slow
[06:48] <BigToe7000> because ACPI's busted
[06:49] <] MaRvIN[> hi
[06:49] <lgc> Dusk_, or edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change every suitable entry to the new partition. Anyone?
[06:49] <e-Hernick> BigToe7000: how do you know your ACPI is busted?
[06:49] <e-Hernick> is it busted on all motherboards of the same model you have?
[06:49] <BrokenNub> why does Linux hate me so ?
[06:49] <BigToe7000> e-Hernick, because kacpi was using up nearly all of my cpu time
[06:49] <godzirra> Heya guys.  Anyone good with Beryl?  I installed all the stuff for beryl, but when I run beryl-manager from a terminal window, it crashes X and then puts me back at my gdm login screen.
[06:49] <gorrz> BrokenNub, whats the deal
[06:49] <lgc> My screen lock doesn't work on my newly-upgraded-to edgy. The volume control applet on the bar also doesn't. The soothing Ubuntu brown on my gnome-terminals is gone. Is this a common failure?
[06:49] <SineFato> gah one more what command do you use in the promt for coping stuff
[06:50] <Paddy_EIRE> !effects | godzirra
[06:50] <ubotu> godzirra: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[06:50] <godzirra> Thanks.
[06:50] <bazookatooth> i'm having a problem... i have two Dell Monitors. one at home, and one at work. both are 21 inch widescreens, but different models. at home, my ubuntu laptop works perfectly when i hook it up to the monitor. at work, its unusable. i've tried every driver (fglrx, ati, radeon) to no avail.. and only three resolution options show up in the gui config -- even though i changed all of them to 1680 x 1050 in the xorg.conf... HALP, PLZ!!!!!
[06:50] <ticnailer69> fuck it I'll do it later
[06:50] <ticnailer69> pz
[06:50] <BigToe7000> e-Hernick, I went through loads of fixes but the people here said "your ACPI is busted, you'll need to disable it"
[06:50] <Slart> SineFato: cp ? or ctrl+shift+c for text copy
[06:50] <w30> Matic`Makovec, http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/ feisty-seveas extras in your 3rd party synaptic repository will let you get extra-codecs and has .rm codecs in it
[06:50] <BigToe7000> e-Hernick, I left the PC for a few months but I'm running out of hd space on my laptop
[06:50] <SineFato> slart: cp. thanks
[06:51] <Kumaru> is there a guide online for simple ubuntu iso modifacation?
[06:51] <Matic`Makovec> Oh great, thank you w30
[06:51] <stuart-> heys, is there an apt package for a GUI .rar'er?
[06:52] <shriphani> folks what can i use to draw circuit diagrams on ubuntu ?
[06:52] <Matic`Makovec> unrar ?
[06:52] <gorrz> stuart-, apt-get install rar
[06:52] <gorrz> stuart-, sudo apt-get install rar
[06:52] <gorrz> ;p
[06:52] <stuart-> thanks
[06:52] <gorrz> old debianer i is :\
[06:52] <w30> Matic`Makovec, you don't need realplayer but it is there if you want it. Be warned that installing realplayer makes it take over lots of video file playing defaults.
[06:52] <lgc> shriphani, Dia is one simple tool. But there are more professional ones.
[06:52] <Slart> stuart-: fileroller handles rar-files too.. don't know what the package is called
 been using Windows for a while, got tired of it, too much spam/virii, so I installed Sabayon on a recommendation.  That didn't work worth much of anything, couldn't even type in the install program [but got that fixed later] .  Overall, didn't like Sabayon, decided to go back to Ubuntu [which is what I used to use] .  The 7.04 x64 LiveCD doesn't work on my machine [correct md5sum and all, it just won't boot it] , so I grabbed th
[06:53] <cmooreusa> can the UBUNTU install CD fix uninstalled issues that won't allow the system to boot?
[06:53] <gorrz> Slart, rar works with the standard fileroller once installed
[06:53] <genii> !info electric
[06:53] <ubotu> electric: electrical CAD system. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.05-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2732 kB, installed size 9156 kB
[06:53] <Matic`Makovec> I'll see about that yeah
[06:53] <Slart> gorrz: ah.. didn't know that
[06:53] <hunteke> for the gnome desktop is there any where to open up applications on a particular virtual desktop?
[06:53] <genii> !info electric| shriphani
[06:53] <gorrz> Slart, yeh pretty neat
[06:53] <ubotu> shriphani: electric: electrical CAD system. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.05-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2732 kB, installed size 9156 kB
[06:54] <ralf_> #kubuntu
[06:54] <stuart-> rar worked like a charm. thanks guys. just thought that rar/unrar package was commandline
[06:54] <gorrz> stuart-, no prob
[06:54] <Darth_X> ralf: what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[06:55] <emet_> BrokenNub: your rant got cut off
[06:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Darth_X: kde is the default kubuntu window manager
[06:55] <ikee> Hey I just installed Ubuntu. When i boot on the ubuntu system i starts loading goes ino a black screen with text. Last two sentences are:"/dev/sbd1 has gone 49710 days without being checked, check forced" and "/dev/sdb1:|[06:55] <marshall> does anybody have the mac menubar thing in GNOME?
[06:55] <bazookatooth> i do
[06:55] <Matic`Makovec> Well, realplayer works, thank you for hint!
[06:55] <bazookatooth> avant-window-navigator
[06:55] <bazookatooth> its awesome
[06:55] <Paddy_EIRE> !kde | Darth_X
[06:55] <ubotu> Darth_X: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[06:55] <benzs_s> i did
[06:55] <benzs_s> but couldn't figure out a way to create keyboard shortcuts between workspaces on compiz
[06:56] <benzs_s> so... don't
[06:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | benzs_s
[06:56] <genii> ikee: Try setting your clock
[06:56] <ubotu> benzs_s: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:56] <Darth_X> ubotu: thanks! :)
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks! :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <benzs_s> oops
[06:56] <e-Hernick> !upnp
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <Darth_X> heh bot ;)
[06:57] <Tiggzzz> hi peeps
[06:57] <zorze> could someone point me in the direction of a good hardware based modem for ubuntu that is available in wal-mart circuit city etc.
 been using Windows for a while, got tired of it, too much spam/virii, so I installed Sabayon on a recommendation.  That didn't work worth much of anything, couldn't even type in the install program [but got that fixed later] .  Overall, didn't like Sabayon, decided to go back to Ubuntu [which is what I used to use] .
[06:57] <BrokenNub>  The 7.04 x64 LiveCD doesn't work on my machine [correct md5sum and all, it just won't boot it] , so I grabbed the Text Install version.  It installed fine, but now it won't boot either.  It just *stops* after loading the kernel.
[06:57] <e-Hernick> anybody know of a good UPNP IGD client that I can use to add port redirs to an UPNP router? I've tried miniupnp/upnpc but it only lists redirs, adding them fails.. but I know UPNP is working fine on my router since GAIM is able to set up redirs, I just need a way to add new redirs manually
[06:58] <BrokenNub>   I can't tell if there is some problem with my GPU or something, but seeing as the onboard one doesn't display anything at all, ever, my other one will have to work [and no, neither the digitial nor analog displays work, they both just stop] . </long_rant>
[06:58] <e-Hernick> BrokenNub: does the 7.04 32-bit CD work?
[06:58] <BrokenNub> I haven't tried that one yet
[06:59] <oskude> hi, wheres "System -> Administration -> Disks" in feisty ?
[06:59] <godzirra> How come my laptop is defaulting to 640x480 or 800x600 resolution?
[06:59] <e-Hernick> BrokenNub: have you tried disabling the GPU you aren't using? If you've got unused onboard VGA, you can probably turn it off
[06:59] <Paddy_EIRE> BrokenNub: no point in using 64bit unless you need to
[06:59] <WeKiD> Yipeee!
[06:59] <Paddy_EIRE> BrokenNub: stick with 32
[06:59] <e-Hernick> godzirra: because Ubuntu is prone to misprobing your video capabilities
[06:59] <WeKiD> I love ubuntu!
[06:59] <godzirra> How do I change it?
[06:59] <nberkope1> BrokenNub: 64bit is always dicey, whether windows or ubuntu
[06:59] <e-Hernick> godzirra: Well, what video driver are you using?
[06:59] <zorze> damn, i have 64 bit
[07:00] <Paddy_EIRE> !fixres
[07:00] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:00] <Tiggzzz> Hi, I'm currently trying to follow the post about the freedom DVB-t USB stick, and myth tv. I am not used to asking for help with pc's but this new world of ubuntu has got me beaten.
[07:00] <jorgg> is pidgin aviable in the repo? ro do I have to wait on gutsy?
[07:00] <oskude> or where can i find info what to write to /etc/fstab that an ext3 partition is mounted automaticly as read/write for all users ? (as this is missing it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions)
[07:00] <ikee> Hey I just installed Ubuntu. When i boot on the ubuntu system i starts loading goes ino a black screen with text. Last two sentences are:"/dev/sbd1 has gone 49710 days without being checked, check forced" and "/dev/sdb1:|[07:00] <genii> jorgg: Get it at getdeb
[07:00] <Paddy_EIRE> jorgg: you can get it from getdeb.net
[07:00] <Tiggzzz> I have the firmware drivers, which should have been obtained via the terminal, but I didn't have permission, so I found them elsewhere
[07:00] <jorgg> okat thanks!
[07:01] <Paddy_EIRE> jorgg: or build it from source from there main site
[07:01] <godzirra> Thanks, let me go read.
[07:01] <Tiggzzz> now I have them in a dir, how the hell do I use them!!
[07:01] <SineFato> chmod +x will make things executeable right?
[07:01] <e-Hernick> ikee: it's possible that your hard drive has problems. And it's pretty obvious that your clock doesn't keep time.
[07:01] <e-Hernick> ikee: do you have another OS installed on that computer?
[07:02] <stdin> SineFato: yes
[07:02] <e-Hernick> SineFato: yes
[07:02] <zorze> do external modems generaly work well with ubuntu?
[07:02] <ikee> E-hernick: Vista.... is that the problem?
[07:02] <e-Hernick> zorze: if they are real modems connected through a serial port, yes, they usually work fine
[07:02] <ikee> trying to dualboot
[07:03] <nberkope1> zorze: in general, any hardware that's fairly recent will play well
[07:03] <e-Hernick> ikee: no, Ubuntu plays well with other OS.. Do you have two hard drives?
[07:03] <zorze> serial port? what is this the 80s
[07:03] <quanquan> i do not think so
[07:03] <Aye|> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522223, can anyone help me with that problem?
[07:03] <e-Hernick> zorze: we're talking about modems
[07:03] <nberkope1> zorze: did you mean cable modems or oldschool ones?
[07:03] <zorze> dial up
[07:03] <e-Hernick> zorze: as in, 56k modems
[07:04] <e-Hernick> zorze: real modems use serial ports. PCI or USB modems are likely to be windows-only softmodems
[07:04] <SineFato> i did the chmod thing but it still wont let me run this thing
[07:04] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: this thing?
[07:04] <e-Hernick> SineFato: if the executable is in your current directory, you need to run it with the full path, or prefix it with ./
[07:04] <ikee> e-Henick No it's a sata 320gb parted into 5 partitions. 1 for vista 1 ext3 ubuntu 1 swap 1 vista backup
[07:05] <e-Hernick> ikee: and you're quite sure the drive itself is fine? Does the fsck always stop at 24.2%?
[07:05] <SineFato> Paddy_eire: It's a game (for linux) im trying to get to work
[07:05] <zorze> are modems that use serial ports available in stores like staples/ circuit city?
[07:05] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: oh, which game?
[07:05] <e-Hernick> zorze: this is old-school technology... I suggest you pick up something off ebay, 56k modems haven't evolved in many many years
[07:06] <ikee> e-hernick: It usually stops at around 30% sometimes a little more
[07:06] <SineFato> e-hernick: i tried that and i got "./uplin: symbol lookup error: ./uplin: undefined symbol: __glutRoot"
[07:06] <SineFato> paddy_EIRE: uplink
[07:06] <Fazack> hi all
[07:06] <SineFato> paddy_EIRE: when i copied i messed up and called it uplin and i have no idea how to rename
[07:07] <Fazack> This is my first hour on Ubuntu Feisty and I am very impressed
[07:07] <agent47a> is there a way to search for packages with apt-get?
[07:07] <e-Hernick> agent47a: apt-cache search <package-name>
[07:07] <agent47a> thanks e-hernick
[07:07] <zorze> there has to be some kind of 56k modem that will work with ubuntu available in regular stores. Am i right
[07:07] <e-Hernick> zorze: not necessarily, modems are old tech
[07:07] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: seems interesting...the game that is
[07:07] <Aye|> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522223, can anyone help me with that problem?
[07:07] <palintheus-work> zorze, most are winmodems, not actual hardware modems
[07:08] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: right click the file and rename it
[07:08] <Paddy_EIRE> :\
[07:08] <zorze> i don't care what kind it is, just as long as it will work
[07:08] <SineFato> paddy_EIRE: rename is greyed out
[07:08] <anto9us> zorze: best get an external modem, most of them will work
[07:08] <zorze> including the USB ones?
[07:08] <palintheus-work> winmodems are software modems, and usually won't work
[07:08] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: did you try using the cp command
[07:08] <e-Hernick> get an external *serial* modem, none of those USB things
[07:08] <Heygabe> Where are the media files for Sound effects kept in Ubuntu?
[07:08] <SineFato> paddy_EIRE: and rename in the terminal just confuses me
[07:08] <e-Hernick> no, external USB modems = risky
[07:08] <Am2U> hi
[07:09] <rockets> palintheus-work, winmodems will work if you use linuxant.com drivers i think
[07:09] <rockets> palintheus-work, I could be wrong
[07:09] <Am2U> i have ubuntu fiesty
[07:09] <SineFato> paddy_EIRE: yeah, it's in the directory and not the cd
[07:09] <e-Hernick> My suggestion is to get a USR/3com 56k v.everything external modem, a Courier or a Sportster
[07:09] <Am2U> and i was trying to get 5.1 sound to work
[07:09] <e-Hernick> there are many of them on ebay at any given time
[07:09] <palintheus-work> rockets, just what I have heard so I steer clear...
[07:09] <Am2U> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[07:09] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: you cant rename a file already written to disk/cd
[07:09] <Am2U> i followed this guide
[07:09] <e-Hernick> the U.S.Robotics 56k V.everything Courier External modem is pretty much the ultimate modem
[07:09] <Am2U> and now well my right rear right front and center play
[07:09] <Am2U> fine
[07:10] <ikee> e-hernick: It usually stops at around 30% sometimes a little more sometimes a little less
[07:10] <Am2U> but the left and left rear are not playing
[07:10] <SineFato> Paddy_EIRE: then whats the point of the rename option int eh right click?
[07:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Paddy_EIRE: errr, are you serious
[07:10] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[07:10] <neverblue> Am2U, can you keep them to one liners?
[07:10] <e-Hernick> ikee: I don't know what's causing this... You could try running a hard drive test utility to make sure your HD is fine..
[07:10] <Paddy_EIRE> why yes I am
[07:10] <e-Hernick> ikee: you could try reinstalling Ubuntu
[07:10] <e-Hernick> ikee: you could try installing Ubuntu on another hard drive
[07:11] <SineFato> Paddy_EIRE: uh... i dont get it
[07:11] <Am2U> hey guys some one please help me out :)
[07:11] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: are you serious....you can rename files but how can you possibly rename a file that has been burned to a disc :\
[07:11] <gorrz> Am2U, whats the prob
[07:11] <SineFato> Paddy_EIRE: no no no its on the hard drive not the CD
[07:11] <Am2U> umm i have ubuntu fiesty
[07:11] <neverblue> :)
[07:11] <Am2U> and 5.1 speakers
[07:11] <Am2U> NVDIA on board sound
[07:11] <zorze> do US Robotics new internal modems work?
[07:11] <neverblue> Am2U, one liners, please
[07:11] <palintheus-work> !patience > Am2U
[07:11] <Am2U> SounMax
[07:11] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: oh, must be a permissions thing
[07:12] <e-Hernick> Am2U: try to describe your problem on a single line
[07:12] <Am2U> sorry
[07:12] <neverblue> Am2U, what have you done to troubleshoot?
[07:12] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: 'gksudo nautilus' then try and rename
[07:12] <e-Hernick> zorze: maybe, if they're real modems. Check the compatibility before buying.
[07:12] <Kaur> If i try to install a 686 kernel on feisty, I get something like: udev hook script requires at least 2.6.16... My kernel is 2.6.15. Does that mean there's no way to install it on feisty?
[07:12] <zorze> will do
[07:12] <Paddy_EIRE> SineFato: when you chmod the file you must have done so with sudo or something
[07:13] <Am2U> I am running on Ubuntu fiesty and tried to get 5.1 surround sound to work . I followed this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto) and well now all the right channel speakers are working . i.e - right front , rear and center
[07:13] <Am2U> left rear and surround are not working
[07:13] <SineFato> Paddy_EIRE: it wouldn't let me do it without sudo
[07:13] <e-Hernick> Am2U: I suppose you checked the "balance" setting in the mixer, and that the balance isn't all the way to the right?
[07:13] <Paddy_EIRE> Am2U: are you certain that there plugged in correctly
[07:14] <Am2U> all jacks plugged properly and yea i checked the balance too
[07:14] <Am2U> the sound is perfect on windows
[07:14] <neverblue> Am2U, is the volumes adjusted?
[07:14] <neverblue> Am2U, then maybe you should just use windows :)
[07:14] <Am2U> well i love linux
[07:14] <Paddy_EIRE> :D
[07:14] <Falstius> Am2U: linux 4 life ;)
[07:14] <Am2U> all most everything is working , including mp3 , dvds - just the sound is a bummer
[07:15] <BrokenNub> so it appears that my Ubuntu install is failing at some part of the graphics initialization, any way I can find out exactly what it's doing [or not doing]  ?
[07:15] <e-Hernick> Am2U: in your mixer app, set the preferences so that you can see the volume controls for every channel, and make sure you don't have a left channel somewhere turned off
[07:15] <anto9us> Am2U: good answer, have you run alsamixer and played around in there?
[07:15] <Am2U> Falstius, true :)
[07:15] <Falstius> well, atleast until indiana is more stable.
[07:15] <Am2U> yea checked alsamixer too
[07:15] <Aye|> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522223, can anyone help me with that problem?
[07:15] <neverblue> Am2U, did you check the forums for your sound card?
[07:15] <Paddy_EIRE> Am2U: you tried the forums
[07:16] <Am2U> yes i have
[07:16] <neverblue> and?
[07:16] <godzirra> Can anyone help me get my xorg working with the nvidia driver?  I seem to be having trouble getting it to work.
[07:16] <neverblue> others having success, issues?
[07:16] <Am2U> and thats how i found the link to get it working partially
[07:16] <e-Hernick> godzirra: what did you try, what still isn't working?
[07:16] <neverblue> godzirra, did you download the one from the nvidia site?
[07:17] <Am2U> however when i tick stereo downmix
[07:17] <zorze> ok , US Robitics says "powerful communication processing functions built right into the modem itself'' so it sounds like a real modem
[07:17] <Am2U> it works
[07:17] <Am2U> but the sound quality is poor then
[07:17] <anto9us> godzirra: try this http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[07:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Am2U: hmm, thats a very odd problem...
[07:18] <godzirra> I havent downloaded anything from nvidia's site...
[07:18] <godzirra> I've just tried configuring via nvidia-xconfig and using that xorg.conf
[07:18] <anto9us> godzirra: that link I just pasted will download and configure for you
[07:18] <neverblue> godzirra, so no guide to go by?
[07:19] <godzirra> neverblue: havent been able to find any yet, no.
[07:19] <Am2U> Paddy_EIRE, yep .. any workaround ?
[07:19] <neverblue> godzirra, what ever you do, dont use ENVY
[07:19] <neverblue> as anto9us posted
[07:19] <neverblue> godzirra, are you using Feisty?
[07:19] <godzirra> uhh ok.  why not?
[07:19] <godzirra> I'm using feisty yes.
[07:19] <neverblue> im not stopping you, go ahead
[07:19] <godzirra> If you have another solution I'm all for it.
[07:20] <godzirra> I just want to get it working.
[07:20] <neverblue> did you enable the 'restricted drivers manager' ?
[07:20] <anto9us> godzirra: envy worked well yesterday on my feisty install, worth a shot, backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf before you start
[07:20] <godzirra> I don't think so?
[07:20] <shriphani> is there a particular way one can extract the pid of any app. using netstat.
[07:20] <godzirra> But I think it was enabled to begin with
[07:20] <godzirra> since I have a wireless driver thats restricted.
[07:20] <neverblue> godzirra, check
[07:21] <Paddy_EIRE> godzirra: then there is your problem I already asked you in ubuntu-effects :\
[07:21] <Am2U> whats is HDSPmixer ?
[07:21] <Zambezi> Is anyone here skilled on LUKS how can help me i private with a faulty drive? It seems like LUKS destroyed it and it's a major important harddrive.
[07:21] <godzirra> Paddy_EIRE: Which problem?
[07:21] <godzirra> neverblue: how?
[07:21] <SineFato> whats the delete command in terminal?
[07:21] <Danker> Hi
[07:21] <W8TAH> im preparing to use IPTABLES as  a firewall -- anyone here able / willing to help me get it configured -- im new to iptables firewalls
[07:21] <Paddy_EIRE> godzirra: follow neverblue advice
[07:21] <neverblue> godzirra, under System
[07:21] <primski> rm
[07:21] <godzirra> Paddy_EIRE: I started trying to fix the resolution problem, realized I was running on the vesa drivers, and havent tried anythingh else.
[07:21] <godzirra> neverblue: Currently X isn't running.
[07:21] <Danker> SineFato: rm rmdir
[07:21] <palintheus-work> SineFato, rm
[07:22] <SineFato> Danker: thank you
[07:22] <neverblue> GodTodd, then, can you browse the web?
[07:22] <neverblue> ops, godzirra
[07:22] <anto9us> shriphani: -p option does that
[07:22] <godzirra> via lynx
[07:22] <Paddy_EIRE> neverblue maybe he has a backup of his previous xorg.conf or he can use the nv driver for the mean time
[07:22] <godzirra> or on another computer.
[07:22] <neverblue> godzirra, so you cannot enter gnome?
[07:22] <godzirra> Let me try and use my old xorg.conf I guess.
[07:22] <godzirra> one sec
[07:22] <neverblue> godzirra, um, wait a sec
[07:23] <shriphani> anto9us: thanks.
[07:23] <godzirra> .ok
[07:23] <godzirra> ?
[07:23] <neverblue> godzirra, enter gnome, then use the restricted..., if you need a hand getting into gnome, I can assist
[07:23] <neverblue> else, here is a link, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Beta_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[07:23] <godzirra> I'm in gnome again using my old setup.
[07:23] <neverblue> godzirra, direct further questions to #ubuntu-effects
[07:23] <Am2U> okay i think i have some diagnosis
[07:24] <godzirra> k
[07:24] <bulmer> W8TAH: here is a very good tutorial that i also have used ttp://www.linuxexposed.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=107
[07:24] <neverblue> they can setup beryl if you want :)
[07:24] <Danker> Could somebody suggest a good (tree) chart, diagram, schemes making program (something like oo.o draw or ms powerpoint, but more specialized)?
[07:24] <Am2U> when i mute the center channel the sound still plays from the center channel but when i mute the front , the center stops laying
[07:24] <W8TAH> excellent
[07:24] <Aye|> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522223, can anyone help me with that problem?
[07:25] <godzirra> neverblue: that page has nothing on it.
[07:25] <anto9us> Danker: dia
[07:25] <godzirra> Or I typoed it.
[07:25] <godzirra> hrm.
[07:25] <Paddy_EIRE> godzirra: use the restricted driver manager
[07:25] <Am2U> Paddy_EIRE, does it throw some light on my problem ?
[07:25] <godzirra> Paddy_EIRE: I'm not entirely how you mean for me to use it.  I opened it up and it shows myt wireless card.
[07:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Am2U: huh...?
[07:26] <MasterShrek> Aye|, i would say you might need to disable framebuffer
[07:26] <Aye|> interesting
[07:26] <Aye|> will try that
[07:26] <Am2U> when i mute the center channel the sound still plays from the center channel but when i mute the front , the center stops laying
[07:26] <Aye|> ty
[07:26] <Paddy_EIRE> godzirra: what video card exactly do you have
[07:26] <neverblue> godzirra, you should remove the , at the end of it
[07:26] <godzirra> nvidia 8400m JS
[07:26] <godzirra> GS
[07:26] <neverblue> oh, sorry
[07:26] <neverblue> there wasnt one
[07:26] <zorze> i found one compatible US Robotics internal for $75  (!!!) and an external for  $95 (!!!!!!!)  I am begining to doubt weather linux is an economical alternative
[07:26] <MasterShrek> Aye|, or maybe put a different vga= line in your grub/menu.list
[07:27] <Am2U> Paddy_EIRE, i did some tweaking like you said and i found out something
[07:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> hello friends
[07:27] <Aye|> where do i find that
[07:27] <neverblue> godzirra, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[07:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> i just install ubuntu from the cd
[07:27] <Paddy_EIRE> zorze: the os was free what are you talking about
[07:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> but there is a prob
[07:27] <rockets> zorze, my modem works just fine
[07:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> there was fedora on the same hdd
[07:27] <Am2U> Paddy_EIRE, when i mute the center channel the sound still plays from the center channel but when i mute the front , the center stops laying
[07:27] <neverblue> sil3nt|warri0r, can you keep it to one line?
[07:27] <BrokenNub> how I do tell all aptitude and such to install to /home instead of / or somewhere else ?
[07:27] <rockets> zorze, its integrated into my laptop though
[07:27] <palintheus-work> zorze, have you checked ebay, and remember you didn't pay 200+ for the OS
[07:27] <sil3nt|warri0r> k, trying
[07:27] <Paddy_EIRE> zorze: would you like Mark Shuttleworth to give you a free foot massage too :P
[07:28] <zorze> Paddy-  yes, but that is besides the point
[07:28] <rockets> zorze, because he will, if itll get you to use ubuntu :-P
[07:28] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[07:28] <fubar6760> ok, here is whats buggin me, i have my ubuntu machine connected to my windows network, and i can see the ubuntu machine from the windows computer, however when i try to view the ubuntu machine its asks for a username and password, i have tried all the usernames and passwords i have, does anyone know how to diable and or the universal username and password for this login
[07:28] <Aye|> MasterShrek, wheres this menu.list
[07:28] <anto9us> zorze: get a used one from a tech recycling place if there's on near you
[07:28] <sil3nt|warri0r> first thing is that i didnt install the grub from ubuntu on my hdd, it was already installed, but how d i configure grub to boot ubuntu ??
[07:28] <neverblue> fubar6760, samba?
[07:28] <MasterShrek> Aye|, /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:29] <fubar6760> yes samba
[07:29] <Aye|> ok
[07:29] <fubar6760> ive looked through all that
[07:29] <Aye|> ill try all that
[07:29] <fubar6760> set it up
[07:29] <neverblue> fubar6760, can you check the sama logs, for any errors?
[07:29] <genii> fubar6760: smbpasswd -ae <username>
[07:29] <godzirra> neverblue: ok, followed those instructions.
[07:29] <godzirra> trying to  restart now, though I've already done most of that before.
[07:29] <fubar6760> yea when i restart samba it says there is an error, but i continues to restart fine
[07:29] <sil3nt|warri0r> and i installed ubuntu on reiserFS
[07:30] <neverblue> godzirra, were the restricted drivers enabled
[07:30] <fubar6760> it*
[07:30] <zorze> this is getting to be too much hassle, the only reason i switched to ubunto was for RAW packet support...
[07:30] <neverblue> sil3nt|warri0r, why reiser?
[07:30] <Paddy_EIRE> godzirra: key word is 'Most' not 'all' ;)
[07:30] <zorze> but i am not giving up just yet
[07:30] <sil3nt|warri0r> i just want to try another fs, and reiser is good
[07:30] <neverblue> fubar6760, maybe explain what the error is, just cause it exists?
[07:30] <fubar6760> any ideas for this username and password nonsense
[07:30] <neverblue> sil3nt|warri0r, do you know much about it?
[07:30] <dxdt> I can't wait for the next reiser.  I think that one will kick ass.
[07:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> no
[07:31] <fubar6760> nevermind now it has no errors
[07:31] <godzirra>  Paddy_EIRE, we'll see if that was the keyword ;)
[07:31] <neverblue> sil3nt|warri0r, well, long story short, the guy who made it is now in prison for murdering his wife, so its not supported atm, but others are trying to keep it going
[07:31] <godzirra> Nope, that didn't work.
[07:32] <fubar6760> when i open gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:32] <godzirra> Failed to initialize NVIDIA graphics device
[07:32] <RichardCranium> I got a reboot, control+alt+delete problem. If I use those comands my computer shuts down software wise but it won't tickle the computer to make it reboot or restart. It just hangs and I have crawl under my desk and pull the plug. Any Ideas where I should turn?
[07:32] <neverblue> godzirra, X isnt loading, or what is the issue?
[07:32] <bulmer> sil3nt|warri0r: pay someone to make it work?
[07:32] <fubar6760> i dont change anything that i dont need to
[07:32] <fubar6760> i just want to get rid of this username and password nonsense
[07:32] <neverblue> godzirra, can you edit the xorg.conf yourself?
[07:32] <godzirra> neverblue: after running the nvidia-xconfig when it tries to restart X, it tells me Fatal error: No screens found.
[07:32] <godzirra> Yup.
[07:32] <leonard_> hey, I have a pretty pitiful amount of ram, so I thought it might be a good idea to disable some of the services that I don't need. Does anyone know of any guides to do this?
[07:32] <RichardCranium> I works in recovery mode boot up though.
[07:32] <neverblue> duals?
[07:33] <bulmer> RichardCranium: what do you want? to reboot after a shutdown?
[07:33] <neverblue> restricted driver enabled?
[07:33] <sil3nt|warri0r> how do i configure grub to boot ubuntu ??
[07:33] <MasterShrek> sil3nt|warri0r, it shold auto-configure
[07:33] <patate> Is there a way to apt-get install (or whatever) a package that provide a service... such as bind, apache, dhcpd-server, etc and PREVENT IT to start the service... basically I want to deboostrap ubuntu, chroot into and install packages that wont mess with the host
[07:33] <sil3nt|warri0r> it did not
[07:33] <RichardCranium> bulmer, yes shutdown works but not reboot
[07:33] <trtdfsdf> is there a russian here
[07:33] <godzirra> neverblue: does it s ay that in the xorg.conf somewhere?
[07:33] <MasterShrek> !grub | sil3nt|warri0r
[07:33] <ubotu> sil3nt|warri0r: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:34] <W8TAH> this is gonna sound a bit dumb, but here goes.  I am working on learning iptables, the tutorial im using says to go to /usr/src/linux and make menuconfig to check some setitngs in the kernel - -im familiar with doing this (repeatedly) from my days in gentoo -- however /usr/src/linux doesnt exist -- is it possible to check my kernel config in ubuntu?
[07:34] <fubar6760> so no ideas on the username and password prompt when trying to connect to an ubuntu machine from a windows machine
[07:34] <neverblue> godzirra, do you have dual screens?
[07:34] <bulmer> RichardCranium: have you tried as root.... shutdown -r now   command?
[07:34] <godzirra> no
[07:34] <tr0picana> hello
[07:34] <neverblue> !patience | fubar6760
[07:34] <ubotu> fubar6760: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:34] <godzirra> I have two computers, I'm ircing on one and installing ubuntu on the other.
[07:34] <anto9us> fubar6760: try - sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=<windows user>,workgroup=<workgroup>,gid=smb,uid=<user>,fmask=770,dmask=770,rw <share> <mountpoint>
[07:34] <godzirra> err, working on ubuntu I mean
[07:34] <rockets> W8TAH, its /usr/src/linux/2.6. whatever
[07:34] <MasterShrek> W8TAH, you need to install the kernel source, its in the repos
[07:34] <Mishu> Is there some way to see the ftp username created from my remote shell?
[07:34] <W8TAH> thanks
[07:34] <RichardCranium> bulmer, yes same result, it hangs
[07:34] <neverblue> godzirra, is that computer we are talking about, does it have dual screens?
[07:34] <sil3nt|warri0r> my grub is there in MBR, when i installed fedora
[07:34] <Mishu> and password aslo?
[07:34] <tr0picana> can anybody help me set up my wireless internet on my laptop?
[07:34] <MasterShrek> W8TAH, atcually i think u need the headers
[07:34] <TABASCO-07> Hi
[07:35] <neverblue> !wireless | tr0picana
[07:35] <ubotu> tr0picana: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:35] <W8TAH> oh - ok
[07:35] <godzirra> neverblue: no.  Its a laptop.
[07:35] <sil3nt|warri0r> but now just because i installed ubuntu, i  need to configure grub
[07:35] <TABASCO-07> Is there a special channel for gutsy?
[07:35] <sil3nt|warri0r> how ?
[07:35] <neverblue> godzirra, so no duals, did you enable the restricted drivers?
[07:35] <MasterShrek> TABASCO-07, #ubuntu+1
[07:35] <tr0picana> but ubuntu is not recognizing my wireless card
[07:35] <RichardCranium> bulmer, would the usplash screen have anything to do with it?
[07:35] <TABASCO-07> MasterShrek: thank
[07:35] <TABASCO-07> s
[07:35] <shriphani> is there a networking channel somewhere on freenode? I am sorry i posted this here but i dunno where else to ask.
[07:36] <neverblue> !ask | shriphani
[07:36] <ubotu> shriphani: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:36] <willey0000> I keep on grtting a errer code for add/Remove Programs when ever i try to add A new progran/packege. I NEED HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:36] <anto9us> shriphani: type /msg chanserv list *networking*
[07:36] <neverblue> !patience | willey0000
[07:36] <shriphani> ok.
[07:36] <ubotu> willey0000: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:36] <bulmer> RichardCranium: when it hangs..where does it hangs..and did you look at the /var/log/messages after a reboot?
[07:36] <godzirra> neverblue: I don't know how to do that.  I clicked on restricted driver manager when I was in X before I tried that link, and it told me that I had a wireless driver that was enabled.
[07:36] <godzirra> Other than that I dont know how I'm supposed to enable restricted drivers...
[07:36] <RichardCranium> bulmer, can the usplash screen be disabled?
[07:37] <MasterShrek> !synaptic | willey0000
[07:37] <ubotu> willey0000: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:37] <neverblue> godzirra, the restricted driver manager would have installed your latest nvidia driver for you
[07:37] <neverblue> godzirra, unless you didnt use it
[07:37] <neverblue> godzirra, so, ill ask again, did you use it to grab the latest nvidia drivers?
[07:37] <godzirra> It didnt.  I followed the insttructions on that site you said.
[07:37] <bulmer> W8TAH: iptables modules is by default installed in the kernel..verify via   iptables -vL
[07:38] <godzirra> It didnt say anything about the restricted driver manager... so probably not.
[07:38] <neverblue> godzirra, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:38] <RichardCranium> bulmer, the system does shutdown the computer just won't go back and reboot bios and the scsi bios etc. order of the boot sequence
[07:38] <fubar6760> im unsure how to you the sudo mount commands
[07:38] <neverblue> then nvidia-xconfig ?
[07:38] <godzirra> yes I did that
[07:38] <bulmer> RichardCranium: possibly..i dont am not sure how to disable it..or rather didnt notice the splashcreen option for grub
[07:38] <neverblue> ok, did you do sudo ?
[07:38] <neverblue> or just the command..
[07:38] <godzirra> yes
[07:38] <pike_> !mount | fubar6760
[07:38] <ubotu> fubar6760: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:38] <W8TAH> bulmer: ok - -cool
[07:38] <fubar6760> i did sudo
[07:39] <neverblue> ok, look at your xorg.conf
[07:39] <W8TAH> bulmer: that makes life a lot easier
[07:39] <neverblue> you should see the nvidia driver
[07:39] <godzirra> It installed it to /home/shawn/xorg.conf, and I copied it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:39] <neverblue> not the nv
[07:39] <bulmer> RichardCranium: sounsd more like the boot up process is failing? not the shutdown?
[07:39] <sil3nt|warri0r> anyone, for how to configure grub so that it boots two OS fedora and ubuntu
[07:39] <sil3nt|warri0r> ??
[07:39] <godzirra> It is using nvidia.
[07:39] <neverblue> ok, thats step one
[07:39] <bulmer> sil3nt|warri0r: you ever tried to look up some tutorials on google for dual booting?
[07:39] <neverblue> now, open a shell, or exit that .conf, and do lspci
[07:40] <sil3nt|warri0r> yea, still trying
[07:40] <neverblue> you should see your device
[07:40] <pike_> sil3nt|warri0r: its possible just reinstalling grub in ubuntu might setup menu.lst for ya but i dunno
[07:40] <godzirra> neverblue: its listed as an unknown device from nVidia corporation
[07:40] <godzirra> VGA compatible controller
[07:40] <bulmer> sil3nt|warri0r: well basically on the menu.lst both os have entries where their bootable vmlinuz-xxxx is located
[07:40] <fubar6760> i dont believe i need to mount anything, i just need to add the ubuntu machine to the windows network. when i got that acompllished it said type in username and password, i looked at the screen blankly and tried the root password and my username, but that of course did not work
[07:40] <neverblue> copy the whole line please, (just the one line)
[07:41] <Falstius> sil3nt|warri0r: basically, just copy one of the entries for ubuntu (or fedora) in /boot/grub/menu.1st and change it to point to the other installation and kernel.  You'll have to change the root, kernel and initrd lines (and title)
[07:41] <godzirra> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0427 (rev a1)
[07:41] <MasterShrek> whats that command to change my usplash? there was a command that would bring up a little menu in a terminal
[07:42] <MasterShrek> update-alternatives or something
[07:42] <burhan> fubar6760: are you trying to add to a domain?
[07:42] <Falstius> sil3nt|warri0r: this is actually a little easier/cleaner if the two systems share a /boot partition.
[07:42] <neverblue> godzirra, open your xorg.conf again please
[07:42] <godzirra> ok
[07:42] <fubar6760> no just a workgroup
[07:42] <burhan> fubar6760: just edit your smb.conf
[07:42] <fubar6760> ok, thats the gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:43] <fubar6760> right?
[07:43] <neverblue> godzirra, in the device section, you should see BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
[07:43] <neverblue> godzirra, is that correct?
[07:43] <sil3nt|warri0r> when i installed ubuntu fron the live cd , it didnit ask for any /boot, but swap and /
[07:43] <godzirra> Nope.
[07:43] <godzirra> Its in my original config, but not this one.
[07:43] <neverblue> godzirra, there is the issue, so change that
[07:43] <neverblue> godzirra, now keep xorg.conf open
[07:43] <neverblue> and scroll to the ServerLayout
[07:44] <[Thom] > How can I update from SVN v1.3 to SVN v1.4 on Ubuntu?
[07:44] <neverblue> add this, after the last line in the section: '        Option          "Xinerama"      "on" '
[07:44] <the-dash> is there an easy way to set up Evolution's filter to not interpret sent messages as new mail ?
[07:44] <RichardCranium> bulmer, oh well I will have to get a remote controlled wall outlet :=)
[07:45] <godzirra> pl
[07:45] <godzirra> err ok
[07:45] <neverblue> :/
[07:45] <neverblue> godzirra, save it, then restart
[07:45] <bulmer> RichardCranium: huh? too far for you?
[07:45] <burhan> fubar6760: yes
[07:45] <neverblue> godzirra, btw, you can have duals with a laptop :)
[07:46] <gnurph> is mon^rch still out there?
[07:46] <bulmer> RichardCranium: getting up and stretching is good for blood circulations... :)
[07:46] <RichardCranium> bulmer, I will see what happens with no splash in the menu.1st
[07:46] <godzirra> Options isn't valid in server layout...
[07:46] <neverblue> i said add it :)
[07:46] <RichardCranium> bulmer, thanks
[07:46] <fubar6760> ok
[07:46] <godzirra> Right... but its not a valid option in Server LAyout
[07:46] <RichardCranium> bulmer, ha
[07:46] <godzirra> did you mean in extensions?
[07:46] <s0nix> hi
[07:46] <neverblue> godzirra, in the ServerLayout
[07:46] <darkhack>  a new version anytime soon?
[07:46] <neverblue> is it option, or Option ?
[07:46] <s0nix> anyone know what can i use for test my gigabit local network ?
[07:47] <fubar6760> what exactly do i need to change in gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf to disable the password prompt
[07:47] <fubar6760> ive tried everything
[07:47] <darkhack> hey all
[07:47] <godzirra> oops... I may have put Options instead of Option.
[07:47] <neverblue> !samba | fubar6760
[07:47] <ubotu> fubar6760: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:47] <godzirra> But its still not working.
[07:47] <Vino|> I'm trying to set up a DNS and a DHCP server so that any computer leased by DHCP gets an entry in DNS. I did all the ddns-update stuff in /etc/dhcpd.conf but I can't seem to get it to work, any suggestions?
[07:47] <neverblue> godzirra, error?
[07:47] <MasterShrek> s0nix, your gigabit lan isnt going to be any faster to the outside, just internal traffic wll be gigabit
[07:47] <godzirra> NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device
[07:47] <godzirra> the part after that -may- say "on PCI:1:0:0"
[07:47] <neverblue> godzirra, please post your lspci and xorg.conf on pastebin for me
[07:48] <neverblue> !pastebin | godzirra
[07:48] <godzirra> its hard to tell because the gui stuff is wacky.
[07:48] <ubotu> godzirra: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:48] <MasterShrek> godzirra, what kinda of card?
[07:48] <godzirra> nvidia 8400M GS
[07:48] <MasterShrek> godzirra, you probably have to use drivers from nvidia site
[07:48] <Shaye> ewook?
[07:48] <MasterShrek> i always do, and never have problems
[07:48] <Shaye> are u still there
[07:48] <darkhack> Anyone know howto set folder and media on the right side of the desktop as default?
[07:49] <MasterShrek> darkhack, what do yuo mean?
[07:49] <neverblue> godzirra, while your at it, you might want to add /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:49] <Ecalix> trying to point non-existant (turned off onboard sound after install in bios) /dev/dsp to usb sound /dev/dsp1. any ideas how to make this work?
[07:49] <shriphani> anto9us: is there any alternative to netstat -p ?
[07:49] <neverblue> godzirra, just so I can see the error
[07:49] <ferronica> any one here who can help me in configuring Evolution mail for Yahoo mail ???
[07:49] <MasterShrek> Ecalix, sudo ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp
[07:50] <shriphani> I want a whitespace before the pid.
[07:50] <jacobat> I am trying to upgrade postgresql, so I did "apt-get remove postgresql-8.1"... but dpkg -l still show's it and there's still stuff in /etc regarding 8.1?
[07:50] <MasterShrek> ferronica, does yahoo support pop3 or imap?
[07:50] <Ecalix> MasterShrek, tried that actually. doesnt seem to work. and upon reboot it is removed
[07:50] <Shaye> i installed my eggdrop it joined the network all good but it doesn't respond, i did /msg nick hello, /msg nick pass etc but nothing
[07:50] <godzirra> the log is paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33258
[07:50] <neverblue> Shaye, i dont think this is the appropriate channel for discussing bots
[07:50] <W8TAH> bulmer: it appears that iptables is there -- however, the HOWTO im using asks me to do cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack which is returning a no such file or directory error (confirmed by inspection) --
[07:50] <ferronica> MasterShrek: dont know ,i am new in linux   :(
[07:50] <godzirra> the xorg.conf is paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33259
[07:51] <MasterShrek> thats not even a linux think ferronica, thats a matter of if yahoo supports pop3 or imap, and (correct me if im wrong) i dont believe they do
 What I meant was I want my folders and mdeia icons to be on the right side on the desktop as default. Sort of like osx
[07:51] <anto9us> shriphani: I think lsof will do it but don't ask me how
[07:51] <gnurph> anybody have any experience using a KVM switch with ubuntu-desktop?
[07:51] <P-K> is there a way to make exceptions in cron rules? Like I want something to run every 40 min except on a certain day.
[07:51] <bulmer> W8TAH: the ip_conntrack modules for packet tracking has to be installed..dont worry it will be there when you get things going
[07:51] <osxdude|laptop> don't say osx say os x
[07:51] <godzirra> the lspci is paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33260
[07:51] <MasterShrek> darkhack, move them over there?
[07:51] <W8TAH> cool
[07:52] <W8TAH> bulmer: thanks -- i think im still too used to gentoo at this point
[07:52] <willey0000> I need help on this messige comeing up. E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. Please Help
[07:52] <bulmer> W8TAH: you would not understand the meaning of those packets yet anyways for now...so create the rules and test the iptables
[07:52] <ferronica> MasterShrek: you mean yahoo wont work on evolution ?
[07:52] <neverblue> godzirra, could have put them all in one post :P
[07:52] <Falstius> sil3nt|warri0r: you don't need a /boot partition (and it won't be created automatically), it just makes installing multiple linux distros less confusing (each with their own /boot but only 1 that works)
[07:52] <W8TAH> bulmer: ok - -cool by me -- im just working my way through the howto
 Yeah, but when you insert a cd or dvde, it place on the leftside
[07:52] <bulmer> W8TAH: okay good luck
[07:53] <W8TAH> thanks
[07:53] <MasterShrek> ferronica, does it work in a windows mail client (outlook, thunderbird, etc.)?
[07:53] <MasterShrek> darkhack, cry
[07:53] <godzirra> Sorry.  Figured it was easy to open extra tabs in FF than to scroll around to find the start and stop points. ;)
[07:53] <ferronica> MasterShrek: never tried :(
[07:53] <godzirra> neverblue: should I try and install the newest driver from nvidia?
[07:53] <godzirra> first?
[07:53] <neverblue> MasterShrek, why did you suggest the drivers from the Nvidia site, because its a newer card?
[07:53] <MasterShrek> yea neverblue
[07:53] <neverblue> godzirra, in my experience, no
[07:53] <neverblue> MasterShrek, you could be right :)
 lol it ok and I might have to do some research and maybe hack around
[07:54] <MasterShrek> ferronica, apparently yahoo supports imap now
[07:54] <ferronica> MasterShrek: then what is the purpose of giving Evolution mail  ?
[07:54] <cliente3> christian
[07:54] <darkhack> Anyone running gutsy right now?
[07:55] <sil3nt|warri0r> hmm
[07:55] <krzysiek> dsasd
[07:55] <krzysiek> :D
[07:55] <krzysiek> Haha
[07:55] <krzysiek> jyrwa
[07:55] <krzysiek> jrwa
[07:55] <krzysiek> asd
[07:55] <Montaro6> darkhack: I am.
[07:55] <krzysiek> asdcxz
[07:55] <krzysiek> asd
[07:55] <krzysiek> as
[07:55] <krzysiek> d
[07:55] <krzysiek> wqe
[07:55] <MasterShrek> ferronica, evolution is a mail client, it downloads your emails to your pc before or as you read them
[07:55] <krzysiek> qw
[07:55] <krzysiek> e
[07:55] <neverblue> godzirra, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingUbuntuOnADellXPSM1330
[07:55] <krzysiek> as
[07:55] <MasterShrek> someone kick him please
[07:55] <krzysiek> d
[07:55] <neverblue> !ops
[07:55] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[07:55] <krzysiek> asx
[07:55] <krzysiek> asdf
[07:55] <krzysiek> as
[07:55] <krzysiek> f
[07:55] <ferronica> MasterShrek: right now i am trying to configure evolution mail
[07:55] <krzysiek> as
[07:55] <sil3nt|warri0r> i did like this, root (hd0,1), the ubuntu is in /dev/sda5 partition
[07:55] <sil3nt|warri0r> is it ok ?
[07:55] <neverblue> thanks nixternal
 How is it looking so far right now?
[07:55] <nixternal> no prob
[07:56] <ferronica> MasterShrek: server type = imap ?
[07:56] <MasterShrek> yes ferronica
[07:56] <MasterShrek> the server you want is imap.next.mail.yahoo.com
[07:56] <MasterShrek> i believe
[07:56] <godzirra> neverblue: that only shows me that its possible. ;)
[07:56] <neverblue> godzirra, yep :)
[07:56] <MasterShrek> for the smtp server just change that imap to smtp
[07:56] <godzirra> ok, I guess I'm going to try nvidia's driver.
[07:56] <neverblue> godzirra, I really dont think you added the nvidia driver properly
[07:56] <ferronica> MasterShrek: under configuration , server = ?
[07:56] <godzirra> neverblue: I followed the instructions explicitly.
[07:57] <MasterShrek> godzirra, make sure you have build-essential installed
[07:57] <neverblue> godzirra, you can add it without the site
[07:57] <godzirra> its not like it was hard. ;p
[07:57] <neverblue> hehe
[07:57] <Montaro6> darkhack: Fine so far. I do find a few issues with updating packages.. sometimes something will break, but that has to be expected. The worst thing so far as about 2 months ago I did a dist-upgrade and it updated udevd and it kept doing 100% cpu usage, but other than that its been fine really.. a little bit of hacking sometimes with package install scripts
[07:57] <neverblue> yeah
[07:57] <MasterShrek> ferronica, still under the imap configuration?
[07:57] <ferronica> MasterShrek: yes
[07:57] <godzirra> I'm not a noob to linux or ubuntu... just not great with figuring out X problems ;)
[07:57] <neverblue> godzirra, try in #ubuntu-effects, bofore you hit the site
[07:57] <Montaro6> darkhack: as long as you can come to terms with the fact that it is beta software, then its quite good
[07:57] <MasterShrek> ferronica:  imap.next.mail.yahoo.com
[07:57] <Ecalix> trying to point non-existant (turned off onboard sound after install in bios) /dev/dsp to usb sound /dev/dsp1. any ideas how to make this work? tried doing a symlink but it didnt seem to help at all
[07:57] <neverblue> I have to get back to work
[07:58] <MasterShrek> godzirra, i would guess that nvidia's driver should do the trick for ya
[07:58] <sil3nt|warri0r> is it possible to install ubuntu withour installing the grub that it provides ?
[07:58] <godzirra> alright, thanks for the help.
[07:58] <ains> MasterShrek, PM
[07:58] <godzirra> MasterShrek: I'll try it.
[07:58] <neverblue> np
[07:58] <neverblue> good luck
[07:58] <ferronica> MasterShrek: username =  my ID on yahoo
[07:58] <sil3nt|warri0r> cause i didinot saw any such option
[07:58] <MasterShrek> yes ferronica
 What processer are you running on?
[07:58] <sil3nt|warri0r> there was option for where to install grub, which was by default (hd0)
[07:58] <MasterShrek> i dont know sil3nt|warri0r, isnt there an "Advanced" button right before the install starts? (after configuration)
[07:59] <ferronica> MasterShrek: authentication type ??
[07:59] <Montaro6> darkhack: A 32bit Athlon XP 1900+..
[07:59] <sil3nt|warri0r> yes
[07:59] <sil3nt|warri0r> i clicked it , and there was (hd0)
[07:59] <MasterShrek> im not sure on that ferronica, SSL probably
[07:59] <ewook> Shaye: aye?
[07:59] <sil3nt|warri0r> i changed it to /dev, dont know why
[07:59] <ewook> Shaye: been away
 Oh ok,
[07:59] <MasterShrek> i dont know for sure sil3nt|warri0r
 Thanks for the info
[07:59] <Montaro6> darkhack: np.
[07:59] <sil3nt|warri0r> but how do i disable the grub installation ?
[08:00] <bobodclown> Lo all, im having problems with a portable USB HD (freecom 80gb), plug it in under feisty and i hear it constantly spinning up adn down and doesnt load, any ideas?
[08:00] <darkhack> Anyone here running ubuntu on a intel core 2 quad processer?
[08:00] <ains> MasterShrek, what am i suppsoed to edit in the grub config files?
[08:00] <godzirra> MasterShrek: that did it.
[08:00] <ains> menu.lst
[08:00] <sil3nt|warri0r> will ubuntu format /boot while installing grub on hd0 ?
[08:00] <MasterShrek> yea ains
[08:00] <sil3nt|warri0r> cause thats has got my fc7 files
[08:00] <gnurph> how do I force ubuntu's desktop to run in a specific video mode?
[08:01] <godzirra> MasterShrek: Thanks too. :)
[08:01] <ains> MasterShrek, what am i supposed to fix, (aye|)
[08:01] <godzirra> I'm off to get some work done now before I get in trouble. ;)
[08:01] <MasterShrek> ains i dont know you never told me what your problem was
[08:01] <ains> im not sure what to change to get ubuntu to boot with my gfx card
[08:01] <ferronica> MasterShrek: server type = SMTP or send mail
[08:01] <ikee> Any who can tell me which partitions i need and how they should be configured(Like how to set a root)
[08:01] <ains> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522223
[08:01] <ains> its Aye|
[08:01] <MasterShrek> bobodclown, is it one of those laptop hard drives in the little case?
[08:01] <darkhack> Anyway, I'm off now and yall take care now
[08:01] <Aye|> i just booted into ubuntu with my onboard
[08:01] <darkhack> LLinux rule
[08:01] <darkhack> lol
[08:01] <darkhack> bye
[08:02] <bobodclown> MasterShrek: yup i reckon so
[08:02] <ewook> darkhack: err. mkay.
[08:02] <tr0picana> how do i get a wireless connection in ubuntu?
[08:02] <tr0picana> ath0
[08:02] <Shaye> ewook, maybe u have any idea why's my eggdrop doesn't respond to me? i've just installed it, it joined the channel/network like i edited in the config file, but it won't respond. /msg xxx hello - /msg xxx password, etc, nothing...
[08:02] <YouKnowMe> Hello, I am having problems replacing my video card. Some help?
[08:02] <Aye|> MasterShrek, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522223
[08:03] <ewook> Shaye: telnet to it?
[08:03] <Shaye> ewook using putty?
[08:03] <Shaye> or how exactly
[08:03] <tr0picana> how do i see the wireless connection in the networking settings tool??
[08:03] <MasterShrek> Aye|, try adding the line: vga=normal   to your /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:03] <ewook> well, putty into the box running the eggie, and local telnet, saves you a session :)
[08:03] <Aye|> MasterShrek, anywhere in particular or just anywhere
[08:03] <ewook> might just listen to localhost as well, dunno how you set it up
[08:04] <blackest> any problems with sata and ubuntu ? i'm thinking of installing a dual boot to a sata drive
[08:04] <MasterShrek> Aye|, doesnt matter, toward the top is probably the best
[08:04] <MasterShrek> blackest, you should be alright, assuming it loads the proper sata drives on boot
[08:04] <ferronica> MasterShrek: Unable to authenticate to IMAP server.
[08:04] <ferronica> IMAP command failed: LOGIN failure. Invalid username or password, or invalid access
[08:04] <YouKnowMe> anybody?
[08:04] <Aye|> MasterShrek,  with a # or not
[08:05] <MasterShrek> no #
[08:05] <Aye|> and what about disabling framebuffer
[08:05] <Shaye> ewook, Launched into the background (pid: 14998). now it's online
[08:05] <andyp_> hi
[08:05] <dresden> im back
[08:06] <dresden> howlingmadhowie are you there
[08:06] <ikee> Any who can tell me which partitions i need (for ubuntu)and how they should be configured(Like how to set a root and which should be Primary and logical)
[08:06] <MasterShrek> ferronica, the more a look the more im thinking yahoo mail doesnt support pop
[08:06] <MasterShrek> or imap
[08:06] <blackest> i have an asrock motherboard with an 80 160 and 320 ide drives the 80 is the boot drive and its failing so i thought a nice 500gb sata might replace it (mythtv backend)
[08:06] <ferronica> oh
[08:06] <Aye|> MasterShrek, any disabling the framebuffer?
[08:06] <andyp_> can someone give me the name of a download software please
[08:06] <palintheus-work> ikee, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning
[08:06] <andyp_> dresden: hi
[08:06] <benzs_s> andyp_: ?
[08:06] <MasterShrek> Aye|, i dont know for sure, try removing usplash maybe...i dont know if that will help or not though
[08:07] <Vino|> I'm trying to set up a DNS and a DHCP server so that any computer leased by DHCP gets an entry in DNS. I did all the ddns-update stuff in /etc/dhcpd.conf but I can't seem to get it to work, any suggestions?
[08:07] <ikee> Palintheus-work; thanks
[08:07] <Shaye> no response ewook :/ or i am doing it wrong
[08:07] <andyp_> benzs_s; like internet download manager in winbows
[08:07] <palintheus-work> ikee, that site has some great tutorials and info
[08:07] <benzs_s> wget
[08:07] <benzs_s> or Gwget for the GUI version
[08:08] <YouKnowMe> anybody?
[08:08] <ferronica> MasterShrek: www.yahoo.com don't support
[08:08] <benzs_s> YouKnowMe what are you having trouble with
[08:08] <andyp_> benzs_s: thanks
[08:08] <MasterShrek> ferronica, yahoo supports pop mail with yahoo mail plus
[08:09] <ferronica> MasterShrek: you mean purchased yahoo ID
[08:09] <dresden> hi andyp_
[08:09] <MasterShrek> yea
[08:09] <ferronica> MasterShrek: not in free ID right ?
[08:09] <MasterShrek> afk
[08:09] <ferronica> MasterShrek: oh okay
[08:09] <dresden> guys i think i fixed my resolution problem im going to reboot and let you all know how i did it , if it works
[08:10] <gnurph> Hi there - I'm using a KVM switch to try and manage an ubuntu-desktop'ed server.  does *anybody* have any ideas here?  when I startx, I get garbage on my screen - but if I connect a monitor to the hardware, it works fine.
[08:10] <YouKnowMe> benzs_s, I switched vid cards and I'm having problems
[08:12] <claudiu> hi
[08:12] <anto9us> gnurph: do you have another monitor cable for the kvm?
[08:12] <phoenixz> I want to create passwordless ssh identity files with ssh-keygen from a program, but ssh-keygen keeps asking for a password.. How do I make ssh-keygen generate a key without a password and without asking?
[08:12] <claudiu> I am using compiz fusion and I cant fully maximize the windows
[08:12] <m1r> how can i make exact copy of my current freshly instaled system =?
[08:12] <MasterShrek> claudiu, tre #ubuntu-effects
[08:12] <dresden> argh i still cant get my resolution to stick
[08:12] <MasterShrek> try*
[08:12] <dresden> aargghh!
[08:12] <michal_> hi
[08:12] <genii> gnurph: You either need: a kvm which emulates a monitor to the computer when one is not selected or: To only startup the machine when it is the selected one until the video has finished PNP
[08:13] <gnurph> anto9us - i've got the KVM plugged in via one set of KVM ports - and a real monitor plugged into a different video port.
[08:13] <claudiu> MasterShrek: thanks
[08:13] <MasterShrek> m1r do you have an extra drive or partition?
[08:13] <m1r> mastershrek , yes
[08:13] <YouKnowMe> some help please?
[08:13] <bobbocanfly> does anyone have a link to a Compiz-Fusion deb package?
[08:13] <gnurph> this is because - the desktop needs to autodetect the monitor type?
[08:13] <MasterShrek> m1r, dd if=/dev/[input device]  of=/dev/[output device] 
[08:13] <anto9us> gnurph: yes, try a different cable linking the kvm video to computer
[08:13] <dresden> has anybody here ever made a resolution ever stick (when computer boots up, is in any resolution other than the default 1024x768)?????/
[08:14] <CreativeOne> Hi folks
[08:14] <lgc> Is there an APT expert here? Help!
[08:14] <MasterShrek> !ask YouKnowMe
[08:14] <dresden> hi
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask youknowme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <johnficca> Hi
[08:14] <pike_> dresden: lcd?
[08:14] <CreativeOne> how can i tell ubuntu tu auto-configure xorg everytime the box boots?
[08:14] <genii> gnurph: Yes
[08:14] <blackest> gnurph why not use remote login ssh is good for lots of things
[08:14] <dresden> yes pike_ its an LCD through DVI (nvidia card)
[08:14] <gnurph> interestingly enough, the KVM worked fine in text mode - but the moment i did a startx, it's hosed.
[08:14] <m1r> mastershrek , does HDD's need to be exact same size ?
[08:14] <palintheus> YouKnowMe, can you provide more info on the problem other than you replaced the car, what kind of cards, what is the error, et
[08:14] <Phusion> hey, I just set up a RAID 1 with two SATA 500GB disks with the Fast Track BIOS utility, I'm going through the Ubuntu 7.04 install GUI and wondering how to configure for MultiDisk? where do I specify RAID, it's just showing the two sata devices
[08:14] <gnurph> well, the video part is - keyboard/mouse works fine.  :)
[08:14] <shaitaan> #srijan
[08:15] <MasterShrek> i dont know m1r i dont think so
[08:15] <gnurph> can I force the desktop to start in a specific video resolution?
[08:15] <dresden> gnurph i want to know tha ttoo
[08:15] <dresden> gnurph thats waht ive been trying to figure out!!
[08:15] <m1r> mastershrek , can that copyed system be placed on bootable DVD ?
[08:15] <lgc> Is there an aptitude/apt-get expert here? Help!
[08:15] <shriphani> hmm lsof throws a lot... does anyone know more equivalents of netstat -p ?
[08:15] <dresden> anybody ever made their desktop load at a certain resolution other than the default 1024x768????
[08:16] <pike_> dresden: assuming that isnt its native res the xorg.conf file resolutions at the bottom of the file under your color depth will be read left to right trying each in turn so the first thing id do is check the native res which should be higher than that for a newer lcd monitor and the xorg.conf file. youre not using the nvidia settings tool are you? ive had issues with it writing to xorg
[08:16] <genii> gnurph: Before i figured out what the issue was I would just do kdm/gdm restart then it "sees" the monitor again properly.
[08:16] <dxdt> dresden: a lot of people do that?  What do you mean?
[08:16] <johnficca> how do I stop people from sending spam messages when I go on this channel ?
[08:16] <godzirra> Ok.. .does anyone have any experience getting softkeys to work on laptops?
[08:16] <dresden> pike_ and dxdt i already edited my xorg.conf and it didnt do any thing apparently
[08:16] <MasterShrek> dresden, first off what kinda card?
[08:16] <johnficca> I just got this one sex_partners_r_us4: Hi, ficcaficca wanna see a great adult singles site? Check out the following site:
[08:16] <genii> gnurph: (I had same issue with an old ATI card and crappy kvm)
[08:16] <dresden> mastershrek a GeForce 6600
[08:16] <anto9us> dresden: yes, the first one listed in xorg modes is the default
[08:16] <MasterShrek> m1r there is some kinda program out there im sure
[08:16] <godzirra> For some reason my soft key for mute -says- it works, but the light on the keyboard above it stays orange.
[08:17] <dresden> i can use nvidia-settings (console command) and change it to 1366x768 just fine!!!!
[08:17] <sn0> !fatx
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fatx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <lgc>  Help! Help!
[08:17] <gnurph> I've killed the KVM connection several times - everything but restart the linux box.  This is a brand new system (and brand new KVM) - maybe the drivers aren't available yet?
[08:17] <dresden> my native resolution iks 1366x768 but i cannot get it to boot up that way
[08:17] <MasterShrek> dresden, what driver do u have installed? the one from the repos?
[08:17] <dresden> the one that automatically installed mastershrek
[08:17] <gnurph> can I connect to the box in a different way (telnet, et al)?
[08:17] <dresden> do i have to go to nvidia.com and download the driver tehre too?
[08:17] <genii> gnurph: You could also try comment out DPMS line in xorg.conf
[08:18] <mwe> wouldn't a 400W PSU usually be enough for a standard modern PC?
[08:18] <MasterShrek> dresden, i dont think everyone likes to do that, but i do all the time, i find it much easier to work with, it has a graphical setup for your monitor, plus easy setup for dualview and such
[08:18] <gnurph> genii - lemme try that.  I have to find the xorg.conf file, so give me a few minutes.
[08:18] <anto9us> mwe: yes
[08:18] <dresden> mastershrek i thought that ubuntu would automatically give me the latest nvidia driver??
[08:18] <mwe> thought so, thanks
[08:19] <MasterShrek> im not sure to tell u the truth dresden, until recently i hadnt used ubuntu in at least a year, i dont know all the ins and outs yet
[08:19] <dresden> OK i will go download the latest driver, its a good idea, mastershrek
[08:19] <exs> How do i format my usb stick via terminal?
[08:19] <dresden> using the default nvidia driver from ubuntu i can change my res fine, mastershrek
[08:19] <dresden> but when i click save to xorg it does not
[08:19] <dresden> so i manually made it save,
[08:19] <Phusion> so.. anyone got any tips on installing Ubuntu on a RAID 1
[08:20] <dresden> and it doesnt do any thing
[08:20] <Phusion> how do I do it :/
[08:20] <dresden> i wil go install the latest drivers for my card tho
[08:20] <MasterShrek> dresden, are you doing that as root?
[08:20] <dresden> yes
[08:20] <gnurph> I've got ubuntu installed on a RAID1 system with no problems.
[08:20] <dresden> i am
[08:20] <dresden> its saved :)
[08:20] <MasterShrek> ok
[08:20] <dresden> just doesnt do it
[08:20] <Phusion> gnurph: ok well what did you do?
[08:20] <gnurph> RAID is set up at the hardware level, transparent to the OS
[08:20] <Phusion> well the OS is seeing two disks
[08:20] <MasterShrek> well i never have a problem with it booting up wrong using nvidias config
[08:20] <unimatrix9> what is the gutsy channel again ubuntu+1?
[08:20] <palintheus> !gutsy
[08:20] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:20] <unimatrix9> ok
[08:21] <dresden> ok mastershrek, when i click save to xorg config it does NOT (i have to do it manually)
[08:21] <gnurph> phusion - is the raid array configured already?
[08:21] <dresden> maybe if i download the latest drivers it will be able to do it?
[08:21] <Phusion> gnurph: yes, did it on boot w/ fasttrack
[08:21] <Phusion> it finds it as a mirrored drive on boot
[08:21] <pike_> dresden: wont hurt anythin you can always sudo NV*.sh --uninstall
[08:21] <MasterShrek> dresden, run the config as root
[08:21] <dresden> whats  sudo NV*.sh --uninstall do
[08:22] <dresden> MASTERSHREK GOOD IDA
[08:22] <dresden> IDEA*
[08:22] <gnurph> then it's querying the RAID controller for that info -
[08:22] <dresden> omg i never tried that
[08:22] <MasterShrek> lol
[08:22] <MasterShrek> thats what i was askin u before
[08:22] <dresden> you mean run nvidia-settings as root right
[08:22] <pike_> dresden: thats the script form nvidia.com but you have a 6600 so i wouldnt think thatd be the issue
[08:22] <gnurph> when it installs, does it give you a choice of which drive to install to?
[08:22] <dresden> nooo i just realised, ive run the config as root
[08:22] <dresden> but never nvidia-settings
[08:22] <MasterShrek> [13:19]  <MasterShrek> dresden, are you doing that as root?
[08:22] <dresden> yeah yeah i am but
[08:22] <gmg9> sil3nt|warri0r, hello
[08:22] <dresden> you gave me the idea
[08:22] <dresden> to run nvidia as root
[08:22] <dresden> i never ran nvidia as root, might be why it cant save
[08:22] <rhavenn> I enabled ldap authentication via PAM, etc... but now some stuff like synaptic do not prompt for my password anymore and don't work..i can do sudo synaptic  and that works, but I would like to understand what the issue is :)
[08:22] <MasterShrek> definately why you cant save
[08:22] <dresden> thank you so much
[08:23] <dresden> i am so dumb
[08:23] <dresden> i ran xorg as root but never nvidia-settings as root
[08:23] <dresden> i will try it
[08:23] <Darth_X> http://www.zooschool.ecsd.net/whgibbon3.jpg <- have you fed your gibbon lately? :)
[08:23] <gmg9> can some one plz give their grub.conf lines ?
[08:24] <MasterShrek> gmg9, what are you tring to boot?
[08:24] <tach00> can anyone help me with a screen resolution problem?
[08:24] <gmg9> ubuntu
[08:24] <MasterShrek> its in a pm to you
[08:25] <dresden> guys im going "afk" while i do the new nvidia drivers  and every thing
[08:25] <dresden> afk
[08:25] <tach00> rebooted and the screen got real big, and nothing i do will make it go back to normal size.
[08:25] <Ecalix> why is it that when i reboot, any symlinks or permissions done to /dev/dsp or /dev/dsp1 get reset to default?
[08:26] <MasterShrek> tach00, what kind of video card?
[08:26] <tach00> what ever is attatched to the board, i am not sure, sorry
[08:26] <tach00> is there a way i can find out
[08:26] <MasterShrek> tach00, run the command lspci -v
[08:26] <randoman> hey guys, when compiling stuff on ubuntu, all you have to do is download build_essintials right?
[08:27] <Curs0r> !kernel
[08:27] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:27] <MasterShrek> yea randoman it is a meta package that installs a bunch of things for you
[08:27] <randoman> because now im getting this
[08:27] <randoman> checking for XORG... configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server xproto xvmc fontsproto ) were not met:
[08:27] <jrwr> Ive read the wiki page about how to fix my X res, but none of those worked, and im stuck in 800x600, my xorg.log says somthing about No Vaild Modes, im using nvidia drivers
[08:27] <gmg9> MasterShrek, ???
[08:28] <Ecalix> why is it that when i reboot, any symlinks or permissions done to /dev/dsp or /dev/dsp1 get reset to default?
[08:28] <Curs0r> is the fatx kernel patch included in the ubuntu kernel source?
[08:28] <boris_> is there any way i can upgrade from feisty to gutsy ?
[08:29] <Pelo> boris_,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:29] <MasterShrek> boris_, it wouldnt be suggested because gutsy is still developmental
[08:29] <genii> Ecalix: Because the entire /dev directory gets remade each boot by udev
[08:30] <dresden> hey MASTERSHREK
[08:30] <dresden> i have asked SO many people
[08:30] <MasterShrek> sup
[08:30] <dresden> but it is you who probably solved my problem
[08:30] <menotu3169> is there anyone here that can help me to get java working on Ubuntu 7.04?
[08:30] <MasterShrek> haha
[08:30] <dresden> i never ever tried to run nvidia settings as sudo
[08:30] <dresden> i didnt know it was necessary
[08:30] <menotu3169> i've tried following the instructions from java, but it still isn't working :(
[08:30] <MasterShrek> dresden, the beauty of linux is that its usually something very simple =D
[08:30] <genii> Ecalix: To make permanent symlink you need to mess with udev.ruls setup where it has the entry for dsp device
[08:30] <dresden> hahah dude you have NO idea how many files i have changed
[08:30] <dresden> and how much information i have read
[08:30] <genii> udev.rules   (sp) rather
[08:30] <MasterShrek> lol
[08:30] <dresden> just because i didnt do sudo
[08:31] <finalbeta> menotu3169: java work by installing it from at-get, nothing special
[08:31] <Ecalix> genii, *sigh* ok, thank you for the info
[08:31] <tach00> MasterShrek did you get my pm?
[08:31] <dresden> sorry im new to linux but i have had a great revelation of how super user works now hahaha
[08:31] <MasterShrek> no tach00 you may need to register
[08:31] <dresden> nobody ever suggested i do sudo nvidia-settings
[08:31] <graft> yo - how can i make the awful gnome file dialog stop sucking? i.e., disable the aggressive autocompletion?
[08:31] <dresden> man you are like hte 25th person or some thing to try to help me MasterShrek
[08:31] <dresden> but we figured it out
[08:31] <dresden> hahahah
[08:31] <menotu3169> finalbeta; I'm sorry, I'm VERY new to linux, i don't know what you mean :(
[08:31] <dresden> i manaully changed a number of files too
[08:31] <MasterShrek> dresden, remember your user only has write priveledges to your home directory, if a file is to be changed outside that you gotta be root
[08:31] <MasterShrek> generally speaking
[08:31] <dresden> i did not know that
[08:32] <dresden> thanks for the info i didnt know that now even
[08:32] <tach00> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[08:32] <Pelo> menotu3169, menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager,    in the menu look for the reposistory item,  in the  dialog box that opens check multiverse on the first tab and backport in the third tab ( I think ),    then go back to the main synaptic windows,  search for  sun-java6.jre  select to install and also select the -plugin package
[08:32] <dresden> i guess thats why things mount inside the home dir??
[08:32] <Curs0r> is the fatx kernel patch included in the ubuntu kernel source?
[08:32] <tach00> is this what you were looking for
[08:32] <genii> Ecalix: You're welcome. there are some good tutorials for how to do what you want, just google :)
[08:32] <Chousuke> dresden: no, no.
[08:32] <dresden> ok what did i say wrong
[08:32] <finalbeta> menotu3169: try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[08:32] <menotu3169> i will try, pelo
[08:32] <menotu3169> thanks
[08:32] <finalbeta> Should install java 5 for you, or try the 6 if you want
[08:32] <Chousuke> dresden: usually NTFS (and FAT) drives are mounted with root-only permissions
[08:32] <Pelo> menotu3169,  you will not try you will acheive
[08:33] <MasterShrek> tach00, can you get into your desktop though?
[08:33] <dresden> that confuses me chousuke
[08:33] <menotu3169> do, or do not, there is no try, eh pelo?
[08:33] <dresden> whatever sentence you just said chousuke is confusing
[08:33] <tach00> yes, the problem is, the screen is so big that i cant see the buttons at the bottom of windows
[08:33] <Pelo> menotu3169,  you got it
[08:33] <dresden> root-only permissions??
[08:33] <Chousuke> yeah, as in, only root can write.
[08:33] <tach00> it says i only have one screen resolution
[08:33] <dresden> why the heck arent i root all the time?
[08:33] <dresden> why do i have to log in ALL THE TIME
[08:33] <Chousuke> because that's stupid.
[08:34] <Chousuke> dresden: you need to manually specify permissions if you want a non-root user to access it.
[08:34] <dresden> i see
[08:34] <dresden> is there a way i can always be root (is that a bad idea?)
[08:34] <MasterShrek> bad idea dresden
[08:34] <Chousuke> that's a very bad idea.
[08:34] <dresden> why
[08:34] <MasterShrek> only use root when you need it
[08:34] <dresden> ok
[08:34] <ains> MasterShrek, diddnt work ubuntu still requires my onboard to boot
[08:34] <MasterShrek> because it is VERY easy to destroy your os
[08:34] <genii> !sudo | dresden
[08:34] <ubotu> dresden: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:35] <ains> but also, when X crashes it will go to my onboard for command line, but when X is ok it uses my graphics card
[08:35] <xeon2007> how do I dedicate mount an usb external drive (formatted ext3) in place of automount?
[08:35] <dresden> thanks for the sudo lesson i have learnt a lot
[08:35] <MasterShrek> hmm ains try disabling your onboard in the bios maybe?
[08:35] <ains> i have
[08:35] <Pelo> tach00,  you need to have more resolutions available on your screen? as in 1024x768 and 1280x1024 ?   edit xorg.conf and add them manualy to the list then restart x
[08:35] <ains> thats what makes it hang
[08:35] <Chousuke> dresden: You'll want to specify a umask for the mounted fat or ntfs drives.
[08:35] <ains> MasterShrek, if my onboard is disabled it hangs
[08:35] <dresden> whats a umask?
[08:35] <Chousuke> dresden: Honestly, I don't know why ubuntu defaults to root-only permisisons
[08:36] <dresden> i dont know what a umask is!!
[08:36] <Chousuke> most people have no clue how to fix it :
[08:36] <tach00> pelo, sorry for not knowing anything, but how do i do that?
[08:36] <Chousuke> dresden: umask means the permissions you give to the mounted drive.
[08:36] <MasterShrek> hmm ains im not really sure what to tell ya, check the forums maybe for card and see if someone had a fix for it
[08:36] <dresden> oh
[08:36] <ains> checked
[08:36] <ains> sucks :P
[08:36] <MasterShrek> tach00, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <dresden> chousuke i only know how i accessed the drive, what else should i know?
[08:37] <MasterShrek> scroll to the bottom and add the resolution that you want
[08:37] <Pelo> tach00,  in the terminal    type  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    about half way down the file you will see the list of available resolutions , follow the syntax carefully
[08:37] <ains> MasterShrek, i think its something in Ubuntu but not in X because X uses my card fine, but ubuntu seems stuck to my onboard and if my onboard isnt there it fails to boot
[08:37] <Chousuke> dresden: I'm assuming you're unable to write to a drive that you mounted? is that ntfs or fat?
[08:37] <dresden> i couldnt write to it for al ong time
[08:37] <dresden> but i eventually figured it out some how, i forget exactly how
[08:37] <MasterShrek> one sec ains i got an idea
[08:37] <dresden> i think i had to reboot
[08:37] <genii> xeon2007: If it's powered on when you start the computer and fstab has option "auto" then it should behave like any regular permanently wired hd
[08:38] <dresden> how the heck do i unmount a NTFS?
[08:38] <Chousuke> do you know the path to the NTFS drive?
[08:38] <dresden> no
[08:38] <dresden> i have no idea!
[08:38] <dresden> its a USB NTFS HDD
[08:38] <Chousuke> it should be /media/something
[08:38] <dresden> ok how do i find it
[08:38] <xeon2007> genii thanks
[08:38] <dresden> is it in the mounted volume or where?
[08:38] <dresden> i know how to find the address but which icon is the correct address
[08:38] <Chousuke> dresden: open the terminal and type "mount"
[08:38] <dresden> ok
[08:39] <Pelo> dresden,   the path shuld be  /media/nameofthedriveonyourdesktop
[08:39] <Chousuke> then you should see a drive which is mounted as ntfs
[08:39] <dresden> i dont know how to read all that information
[08:39] <dresden> ok
[08:39] <Chousuke> then you can unmount it with sudo umount /path/tothedrive
[08:39] <m0dY> how to find files more than a certain number of GB's ?
[08:39] <dresden> wow so many things mounted
[08:39] <dresden> thanks a lot let me try to find it
[08:39] <genii> xeon2007: np
[08:39] <dresden> argh is there no easier way to find it?? i have like 20 things mounted
[08:40] <Chousuke> well, as Pelo said
[08:40] <Chousuke> if you see the drive on your desktop, it should be /media/something
[08:40] <Pelo> dresden,  in ubuntu  ntfs partitions are read only by default,  it is not someting wrong that you did,  to make them read/wirte you need to perform a few extra operations,  I am not sure they will be permanent with a usb drive
[08:40] <dresden> ohh ok
[08:40] <Shaye> I need help eith my eggdrop...
[08:40] <dresden> thanks pelo, chousuke, il try to unmount a drive for the first time!! :) :)
[08:40] <Pelo> Shaye,  what is eggdrop and what help you do need exactly
[08:41] <s0nix> how can i make a BOOT script for reload r8169 driver at boot ? where ?
[08:41] <dresden> could the location be "/media/sda1"
[08:41] <dresden> is that a proper location? (/media/sda1)
[08:41] <Pelo> dresden,  if it appears on your desktop just rightl click and pick unmount in the menu
[08:41] <Chousuke> sounds okay
[08:41] <dresden> awesome thats easy!!
[08:41] <dresden> hahah thanks
[08:41] <MasterShrek> ains, put that vga option at the end of the kernel line and try it
[08:41] <dresden> i didnt know i had a button called unmount
[08:41] <Chousuke> hmm, that sometimes doesn't work :)
[08:41] <dresden> wow i was using the console
[08:41] <mwe> s0nix, just add the name of the module to load at boot to /etc/modules
[08:41] <Chousuke> it's good to know the console way too
[08:41] <ains> um
[08:41] <ains> okay
[08:41] <dresden> i used the console to mount it lol
[08:42] <Chousuke> heh
[08:42] <kitche> !info eggdrop | Pelo
[08:42] <ubotu> pelo: eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[08:42] <dresden> why dont i need to be super user to mount things in desktop??
[08:42] <Pelo> s0nix, not sure how you make it but you put it in /etc/init.d if you want it to lanch on startup
[08:42] <kitche> dresden: hal handles it
[08:42] <Chousuke> dresden: gnome should automount them for you
[08:42] <dresden> aah ok
[08:42] <Shaye> Pelo if u don't know what eggdrop is i don't think u could help dude
[08:42] <Pelo> kitche,  ewwww
[08:42] <Pelo> Shaye, the first part was for me,  the second for the channel at large,  just ask the question donT' ask about asking
[08:42] <oberoc> how does one get the config options from a running kernel?
[08:43] <s0nix> mwe: triyng this
[08:43] <kitche> Shaye: wellw hat is your problemw ith it
[08:43] <dresden> Cannot unmount volume
[08:43] <dresden> The volume 'Black64' was probably mounted manually on the command line.
[08:43] <dresden> whoops i meant the other one, but same thing
[08:43] <dresden> The volume 'MaxtorUSB' was probably mounted manually on the command line.
[08:43] <pike_> dresden: if its in fstab with a 'users' under the options column you dont need to be su
[08:43] <tach00> pelo: according to the list, those resolutions are already there
[08:43] <Pelo> dresden,     from the terminal    sudo umount /media/Black64
[08:43] <AboSamoor> i shared some folders on SMB network in Ubuntu , when i try to open them in Xp i got this error message"The folder contents could not be displayed"
[08:43] <dresden> thanks il do that with the different name
[08:43] <dresden> thanks pelo
[08:43] <Shaye> I installed eggdrop, everything seems fine, it joined the network alright, but now it just doesn't respond... i did /msg bot hello, or /msg bot pass, etc... and nothing it doesn't respond.
[08:43] <Pelo> tach00, you have an intel video card ?
[08:44] <ffmksd> HELP! Firefox hates me! I get the "FF is already running
[08:44] <tach00> yes i believe so
[08:44] <Pelo> tach00, what kind of screen ?
[08:44] <preaction> ffmksd, sudo killall -9 firefox-bin
[08:44] <Pelo> monitor ? lcd crt
[08:44] <ffmksd> HELP! Firefox hates me! I get the "FF is already running" and I have already restarted and reinstalled firefox.
[08:44] <tach00> hp pavillion m70
[08:44] <MasterShrek> ffmksd, type killall firefox-bin
[08:44] <ffmksd> preaction, MasterShrek, no work.
[08:45] <MasterShrek> ffmksd, type killall firefox
[08:45] <ains> MasterShrek,
[08:45] <ffmksd> preaction, MasterShrek, nope.
[08:45] <gnurph> Okay - video problem resolved.  I installed Shorewall - but can't find it on the desktop.  do I need to restart X, or is there a trick of some type to start it?  The service is already running.
[08:45] <MasterShrek> killall ffmksd
[08:45] <mwe> s0nix, gdsudo gedit /etc/modules. add the name at the end and save the file
[08:45] <MasterShrek> =P
[08:45] <kitche> Shaye: well that is an issue with your eggdrop config but what network is it ona nd such or you can always whois <nick> to make sure it is indeed on the network
[08:45] <Pelo> tach00,  I think that's an ati or nvidia card,   closed gedit, goto  menu > system > admin > restricted drivers , see what it tells you
[08:45] <tach00> let me say that you guys are awsome, without you, us beginners wpould be lost
[08:45] <MasterShrek> ains
[08:45] <ains> i pmed you
[08:45] <sxanness> Can someone help me with an issue I am having creatng my database with phpbb2-conf-mysql
[08:45] <ains> read it ;p
[08:45] <wm-seabroo1> being sort of new I guess to linux, I'm wondering if there's been a lot of flattening of the directory architecture? it certainly seems that way to me.
[08:45] <tach00> ok
[08:45] <MasterShrek> ains, you need to be registered
[08:45] <ains> oh
[08:45] <ffmksd> Still no work.
[08:45] <ains> wait
[08:45] <wm-seabroo1> like /var and /etc and stuff
[08:46] <Pelo> tach00, there is a catch ,  you'll need to give us 6 months of your time troubleshooting other ppl for each problems of yours we solve
[08:46] <s0nix> mwe: don't work...... i really need to do sudo modprobe -r r8169 | sudo modprobe r8169 to reload it and make it working
[08:46] <hoarycripple> ffmksd, ps ax |grep firefox
[08:46] <kitche> wm-seabroo1: what do you mean a lot of flattening of the heirarchy
[08:46] <tach00> a popup says, "your hardware doesnt need any restricted drivers"
[08:46] <hoarycripple> ffmksd, kill -9 PID
[08:46] <stdin> ffmksd: killall -9 firefox-bin ?
[08:46] <Shaye> kitche what... how that supposed to help
[08:46] <ffmksd>  8367 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep firefox
[08:46] <hoarycripple> ffmksd, kill -9 8367
[08:47] <Pelo> tach00, ok,  you will need to check your documentation to make sure what video card model you have,  just to make sure
[08:47] <tach00> no prob pelo, i guess if i learn from you, there is no harm in someone learning from me
[08:47] <hoarycripple> ffmksd, oh it isn't running anymore
[08:47] <dresden> pelo that did not work, but sudo umount /media/sda1 did work
[08:47] <hoarycripple> remove your .mozilla
[08:47] <dresden> thank you so much!
[08:47] <wm-seabroo1> kitche: well, working with ruby for instance, and ruby gems in particular. they could be installed in /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8, /usr/lib/ruby/1.8, /var/lib/ruby/.... etc
[08:47] <hoarycripple> and try to start firefox again
[08:47] <dresden> pelo how do i mount it again with the console?? i -
[08:47] <Pelo> dresden, great
[08:47] <kitche> Shaye: it's your configuration that is most likely messed up since it should response to you like you are now the owner of the bot or soemthing close to tha
[08:47] <sxanness> Can someone help me with an issue I am having creatng my database with phpbb2-conf-mysql
[08:47] <ffmksd> nope
[08:47] <mwe> that'll remove bookmarks and settings as well
[08:47] <dresden> i forget the correct command i used to mount it in the first place pelo (i tried lots), how do i mount it again so i know?
[08:47] <Pelo> dresden, try just unpluging and plugging in it ,  usb should mount automaticaly
[08:47] <kitche> wm-seabroo1: well that's where they can be installed not really flattening
[08:47] <stdin> ffmksd: rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock
[08:47] <mwe> rename it instead
[08:47] <dresden> awesome thanks a lot pelo!!
[08:48] <Shaye> kitche but how do i fix that, that is why i am asking... lol
[08:48] <dresden> on the same note: how do i mount internal drives (what command) pelo?
[08:48] <sxanness> I am on Ubuntu 6.06LTS, I have mysql5 installed and mysql-server, when I run "sudo apt-get install phpbb2-conf-mysql" it opens up the configuration screen, I tell it I want to create the database and it asks for my mysqladmin password which I enter in and then I get an error telling me it was unable to create the database saying "
[08:48] <Pelo> dresden,  make sure it is powered on
[08:48] <sxanness> Error: Unable to run the create database script.
[08:48] <kitche> Shaye: I told you it's in it's config
[08:48] <wm-seabroo1> kitche: but if there's no real difference between the choices, then I'd say the differences between the options have been 'flattened' and I don't know if that's the best word
[08:48] <tach00> pelo: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[08:48] <tach00>         Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device 2562
[08:48] <tach00>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
[08:48] <tach00>         Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] 
[08:48] <tach00>         Memory at e8100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] 
[08:48] <dresden> yeha it works thanks pelo
[08:48] <BigToe7000> NOOOOOOOOO
[08:48] <tach00>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[08:48] <stdin> !paste | tach00
[08:48] <ubotu> tach00: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:48] <evolipel> how do you stop Xchat from coming here on startup?
[08:48] <dresden> i know how to use my USB device now thanks to you guys and pelo
[08:48] <dresden> thats chousuke
[08:48] <tach00> sorry
[08:48] <Pelo> dresden, internal drives  is  sudo mount /dev/sd**  /mountpoint
[08:48] <dresden> thanks*
[08:48] <Shaye> kitche dude i know it's in the config i can't fix it i reinstalled few times as well comeon.
[08:48] <dresden> awesome thanks pelo i will write that down too
[08:48] <tach00> !paste
[08:48] <ffmksd> rm: cannot remove `/home/luke/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock': No such file or directory
[08:49] <whiteygford> hey all
[08:49] <tach00> !paste | tach00
[08:49] <ffmksd> stidn:rm: cannot remove `/home/luke/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock': No such file or directory
[08:49] <MasterShrek> !patience | ffmksd
[08:49] <ubotu> ffmksd: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:49] <hoarycripple> ffmksd, replace *.default with whatever it is really called
[08:49] <Pelo> dresden,  you need to have a mountpoint made    sudo mkdir /****     use something in /media if you want it to show on your desktop or  in /mnt if you don'T
[08:49] <whiteygford> my linux stopped recognizing my other 2 hard drives, they are both NTFS format
[08:50] <dresden> thanks pelo i will do that and i will write down what you just sad :)
[08:50] <electronjunkie> hello werld, i am planning on installing a mail server on Feisty, anyone have suggestions as to a good mail server and mabey a how to link ?
[08:50] <stdin> ffmksd: then it _should_ work
[08:50] <sxanness> If anyone here has had experience runing PHPbb from Ubuntu 6.06LTS please pm me.
[08:50] <sxanness> running8
[08:50] <Ecalix> genii, i think i found what i was looking for. example was BUS="ide", KERNEL="hdd", SYMLINK="cdrom". what would the BUS be for sound though?
[08:50] <Mmike> where do I seek help/info on kernel 2.6.22 compilation on feisty? i downloaded 2.6.22, pulled .config file from gutsy, and the .deb file I got at the end has 140 MB! :)
[08:50] <kitche> Shaye: dwhat network is it on, and it's nick since usually the documentation for eggdrop can fix all really
[08:50] <electronjunkie> !mail
[08:50] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[08:50] <Pelo> Mmike,  try asking in #ubuntu+1 for gutsy related stuff
[08:50] <evolipel> how do you stop Xchat from coming here on startup?
[08:50] <electronjunkie> !mail server
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mail server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <speaker219> the
[08:51] <dresden> guys im going to install the latest nvidia drivers, i may reboot
[08:51] <Pelo> !botabuse | electronjunkie
[08:51] <ubotu> electronjunkie: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:51] <Flannel> evolipel: It's in the settings.  There'll be an autojoin list or something akin to it.
[08:51] <Mmike> pelo: i'm not using gutsy, i'm using feisty, I just want to have 2.6.22 on feisty
[08:51] <preaction> electronjunkie, postfix is probably your best bet for ease-of-use and performance
[08:51] <MasterShrek> dresden, you wont have to reboot
[08:51] <preaction> electronjunkie, if you're masochistic, you can try configuring sendmail.
[08:51] <dresden> awesome thanks mastershrek
[08:51] <dresden> i love linux ubuntu!!
[08:51] <tach00> pelo: http://www.pastebin.org/363
[08:52] <Pelo> dresden,  we love you to
[08:52] <Pelo> tach00,  hold on let me look
[08:52] <dresden>   ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[08:52] <dresden>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[08:52] <dresden>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[08:52] <dresden>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[08:52] <Shaye> kitche efnet, but it's connected and it's all working alright, it won't respond
[08:52] <electronjunkie> preaction: am i able to use hoard with postfix
[08:52] <dresden> help
[08:52] <randoman> lol, ok i just installed apt-get install  x11proto-fonts-dev
[08:52] <randoman>  11proto-core-dev
[08:52] <randoman>  . and now i get even more errors when compiling
[08:52] <MasterShrek> dresden, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:52] <dresden> im going to read what NVIDIA told me to
[08:52] <ikee> Any have a solution to the FSCK 49710 days bug?
[08:52] <randoman> checking for XORG... configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server xproto xvmc fontsproto  xineramaproto randrproto renderproto xextproto x11 xextproto) were not met:
[08:52] <dresden> ok thanks mastershrek il do that!
[08:52] <Pelo> dresden,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:52] <MasterShrek> afterwards start it again
[08:52] <randoman> and xserver is here
[08:52] <stdin> dresden: use the ubuntu packages
[08:52] <dresden> thanks guys il do that :)
[08:52] <preaction> electronjunkie, what kind of mail server do you want? smtp? pop3? imap?
[08:53] <stdin> !nvidia | dresden
[08:53] <dresden> stdin i didnt know ubuntu has that
[08:53] <ubotu> dresden: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:53] <Ecalix> anybody know much about altering udev?
[08:53] <dresden> thanks stdin
[08:53] <electronjunkie> preaction: pop3 preferably with webmail
[08:53] <Pelo> tach00, ok  when you look in  menu > system > prefs > resolution  , what is it set to ?
[08:53] <howlingmadhowie> aha, dresden ist wieder da :)
[08:53] <MasterShrek> Ecalix, all i know is you can add/edit rules in /etc/udev/rules.d
[08:53] <howlingmadhowie> hello there dresden :)
[08:53] <mweichert> I'm using Feisty Fawn, apt-installed Apache and Awstats. However, when I attempt to goto http://localhost/cgi-bin apache tries to resolve /var/www/cgi-bin rather than /usr/lib/cgi-bin. Any ideas?
[08:53] <dresden> hi howling
[08:53] <dresden> i think i figured out how to make the resolution stick ubt i have not rebooted yet
[08:54] <dresden> nvidia-settings knows how to fix xorg but i didnt load nvidia-settings with sudo
[08:54] <Ecalix> lol, well thanks for that enlightenment MasterShrek ;)
[08:54] <dresden> now that i did it should work
[08:54] <LGM^> how can i install rpms in ubuntu?
[08:54] <preaction> electronjunkie, pop3 servers are more difficult to set up, but my personal recommendation is Courier-pop3
[08:54] <tach00> 640x480 - 60 hz
[08:54] <preaction> LGM^, use alien, but i wouldn't recommend it
[08:54] <MasterShrek> =P
[08:54] <tach00> and thats the only option
[08:54] <howlingmadhowie> dresden: aha. that makes sense :)
[08:54] <Shaye> Pelo, I'm running ubuntu server edition, no gui or anything, can i install graphics drivers some how? (becuase i want to change the resolution)
[08:54] <askand> Hi!I have problems with my aticard..when I enable the ati driver from restricted drivers I get a blackscreen after reboot..please help? I have xorg.conf files if its any use?
[08:54] <MasterShrek> tach00, did you edit your xorg.conf?
[08:54] <Pelo> LGM^,  you shoudn'T look for a deb a bin or the source
[08:54] <electronjunkie> preaction: ok thank you, i will check it out
[08:55] <tach00> tried to but when it opened, those resolutions were already there
[08:55] <Pelo> Shaye,  no idea , I guess you can install x but beyond that I have no idea how you would play around with the rex
[08:55] <unagi> anyone want to help me install ubuntu on my laptop?
[08:55] <MasterShrek> Shaye, you want to change the console resolution?
[08:55] <LGM^> ok i am looking to install emule any ideas
[08:55] <Flannel> Shaye: You want to change resolution in the console, right?
[08:55] <keito> anyone know where to go for gtkpod help?
[08:55] <MasterShrek> LGM^, sudo apt-get install amule
[08:55] <preaction> electronjunkie, otherwise, theoretically if you're going to be using a web frontend like horde, you could just use something simple like mpop3d or apop3d. but remember if you have a pop3 server you'll need an smtp server (to accept mail and put it in the proper place so that pop3 server can allow users to get mail)
[08:55] <Shaye> yes
[08:56] <LGM^> ynks
[08:56] <Shaye> I see the font too big, MasterShrek, Flannel.
[08:56] <genii> Ecalix: Back (I was AFK). I think that one for HD may not be so applicable. Let me look something informative up for you
[08:56] <Pelo> tach00, from the command line type   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , when in doubt use the default answer provided
[08:56] <LGM^> thanks
[08:56] <Flannel> mweichert: double check that you have a ScriptAlias directive in your default site
[08:56] <aaron> http://hotsanic.sourceforge.net/example/index.html <- i'm looking for somethign to put on a debian or ubuntu server that can generate graphs like this for traffic and system resources.... anyone know of anything?
[08:56] <unagi> ubuntu doesnt see my hd when i want to install how do i fix this
[08:56] <Pelo> keito,  #gtkpod ?
[08:56] <mweichert> Flannel: yes, I do... ScriptAlias /cgi-bin /usr/lib/cgi-bin
[08:56] <Ecalix> genii, im looking at the 2nd to last post in this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-85929.html
[08:56] <gnurph> still looking - where might I find the interface on the desktop for Shorewall?
[08:56] <keito> Pelo: no go I'm afraid!
[08:57] <keito> ANYONE know how to use gtkpod who could help me out?
[08:57] <Pelo> keito, check wikipedia for the gtkpod website link
[08:57] <Phusion> how do I specify software RAID in the GUI installer of 7.04
[08:57] <ikee> Any have a solution for the FSCK 49710 days Issue?
[08:57] <Phusion> my RAID is already setup in bios
[08:57] <fyrestrtr> gnurph: shorewall *is* the interface to iptables.
[08:57] <tach00> pelo: which driver should i choose
[08:57] <keito> Pelo: it appears there is no official irc
[08:57] <Flannel> Shaye: next time you boot, at GRUB, hit 'e' to edit the selection, then append to the kernel line 'vga=ask'  It'll ask you to pick some resolutions.  You'll just haveto do some trial and error.  Once you've found a good one, remember the number, and then go to your menu.lst and put it in the 'kopt=' line (don't uncomment).  sudo update-grub, and you'll be good.
[08:57] <Pelo> tach00, what are your options ?
[08:57] <mweichert> Flannel: that line was there by default
[08:58] <gnurph> fyrestrtr - which is why I installed it - I have limited knowledge of configuring iptables.  How do I start shorewall up?
[08:58] <Flannel> mweichert: right, I expected it to be, just wasn't sure if Feisty still had it.
[08:58] <kitche> Pelo keito: not hard it's gtkpod.org and they only use mailing list for help
[08:58] <tach00> automatically chose vesa
[08:58] <Pelo> keith,  they might have a forum or a faq
[08:58] <unagi> can anyone please help me install ubuntu......im having trouble getting it to see my hd
[08:58] <howlingmadhowie> gnurph: and iptables is the interface to netfilter :)
[08:58] <mweichert> Flannel: any idea why it would be looking in /var/www/cgi-bin ?
[08:58] <Pelo> tach00, what are the other options ?
[08:58] <hoarycripple> keito, what's the problem?
[08:58] <keito> Pelo: The issue is such a small (and hence obvious) one that it hardly seems worth it
[08:59] <genii> Ecalix: I think the file possibly useful to edit is something like /etc/udev/rules.d/60-symlinks.rules
[08:59] <unagi> ::cries::
[08:59] <howlingmadhowie> unagi: wassup?
[08:59] <gnurph> lol, yeah yeah.  :)  Gosh, what was I thinking?  Still clueless, though.
[08:59] <Pelo> keito, which makes it likely to be covered in their faq if they have one,  but that is the issue anyway, maybe we can figure it out
[08:59] <tach00> pelo, there are about 30 options, i guess all of the x server drivers
[08:59] <Ecalix> genii, yeah i was looking at that one. just trying to figure out what exactly to toss in there
[08:59] <unagi> ubuntu wont see the hard drive.....i dont know where to begin fixing this
[08:59] <unagi> with windows its just a driver
[08:59] <Pelo> tach00, copy , paste to pastebin
[09:00] <Flannel> mweichert: no, none.  You might try #apache
[09:00] <tach00> ok
[09:00] <howlingmadhowie> unagi: you're trying to install ubuntu and the install cd doesn't see your harddrive? what sort of harddrive do you have?
[09:00] <genii> Ecalix: looking :)
[09:00] <Pelo> tach00,  anyting look like the intel 86.... series of your vidoe card ?
[09:00] <unagi> ide
[09:00] <ticnailer69> hi
[09:00] <Flannel> mweichert: oh.  You're browsing to /cgi-bin?
[09:00] <s0nix> Pelo:  i make a script in /etc/init.d/ with "modprobe -r r8169 | modprobe 8169" is it ok ? (owner: root' chmod +x ok)
[09:00] <keito> Well... the issue is I have a load of backed up itunes stuff from my girlfriends old XP install.  now I want to link that to the new ubuntu gtkpod install.  the gtkpod program has recognised the ipod and see's its files but now I need to show it where the local files are.  having trouble
[09:00] <Phusion> hey, how do I configure software RAID in the Ubuntu 7.04 GUI installer?
[09:00] <mweichert> Flannel: yeah
[09:00] <unagi> windows needed some sort of non-raid promis driver
[09:00] <Shaye> Flannel, i find those files under /etc? :oo
[09:00] <Phusion> anyone? I don't see RAID as a partition type
[09:01] <Flannel> mweichert: Put a trailing slash, localhost/cgi-bin/
[09:01] <Pelo> s0nix,  I wouldn'T know, i'm not up to that stuff yet , I only do the basicx
[09:01] <Pelo> basics
[09:01] <Flannel> Shaye: only one file.  your menu.lst is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:01] <howlingmadhowie> unagi: that's unusual, that ubuntu doesn't see it. can you open a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and enter: "cat /proc/partitions". if there's any result, can you post the result on pastebin?
[09:01] <gnurph> so...any ideas on starting that shorewall interface up?
[09:01] <tach00> pelo, sorry, wont let me copy them, its like a setup screen
[09:01] <genii> Ecalix: :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=175171 has the particulars
[09:01] <ticnailer69> how do I connect to a wireless network connection in the command line...by the way the essid is belkin54g and there is no key set
[09:01] <obero1> does anybody know how to get the kernel configuration from a running kernel?
[09:01] <Z_God> I am trying to install the 2.4.27 kernel in Dapper, but it doesn't boot, can't mount my root partition
[09:01] <holycow> what is latest ubuntu release called again? edgy right?
[09:01] <Shaye> Flannel ok ill do it now, press 'e' u say right?
[09:02] <obero1> gutsy
[09:02] <howlingmadhowie> holycow: feisty
[09:02] <Pelo> tach00, forget the copy paste fro now look for something in the intel 82845  range
[09:02] <Z_God> any idea how to fix it?
[09:02] <holycow> oh thx
[09:02] <ticnailer69> in other words the network in not protected
[09:02] <tach00> pelo, ok
[09:02] <Flannel> Shaye: at the grub menu, when highlighting the one you want to boot to, yeah.
[09:02] <genii> holycow: The latest stable is Feisty Fawn., the pre-release for what should be 7.10 is Gutsy Gibbon
[09:02] <Shaye> i only have linux installed it boots automatically
[09:02] <Shaye> but ok 1 sec
[09:02] <howlingmadhowie> holycow: gutsy is still in alpha (or is it beta?). anyhow, it hasn't yet been officially released
[09:02] <holycow> danke, appreciate that
[09:02] <hoarycripple> keito, so you just want to add those files to the ipod using the "add files or directory" button up top
[09:02] <unagi> there are no partitions on the drive howlingmadhowie
[09:03] <Flannel> Shaye: you'll need to hit escape then, if your menu is hidden.  The timer will go away once you start doing stuff (hit arrow keys)
[09:03] <mweichert> Flannel: heh ;)
[09:03] <imbecile> how do i make it so that the keyring doesnt need a password to join my home network.. its pretty annoying and I always want to grant access to my wireless
[09:03] <balthamaisteri> Hi, what is wrong when my glxgears shows 3000+ fps and runs smoothly, but in cedega test glxgears are buggy? :/ and games are not playable?
[09:03] <keito> that adds files to the playlist
[09:03] <Shaye> 'e' then escape?
[09:03] <Flannel> mweichert: the alias was /cgi-bin/ which requires the trailing slash.
[09:03] <s0nix> anyone can help me with my r8169 driver problem? i need to type manually sudo modprobe -r r8169 | modprobe r8169 .... to have a ethernet working.
[09:03] <howlingmadhowie> unagi: so "cat /proc/partitions" returns nothing. that means that there are no harddrives recognised. how is the ide drive connected to your motherboard?
[09:03] <keito> its ok though, think I answered my own question
[09:03] <jrwr> Ive read the wiki page about how to fix my X res, but none of those worked, and im stuck in 800x600, my xorg.log says somthing about No Vaild Modes, im using nvidia drivers
[09:03] <mweichert> Flannel: I don't have permission... but I'm sure that I can probably fix that. Just change the group and user of cgi-bin to wwwroot:www, right?
[09:03] <Flannel> Shaye: no, escape to show the menu (if it's hidden), then 'e' on the thing you'd normally hit enter to boot to.
[09:03] <hoarycripple> keito, then you hit "sync" and it will write to the ipod
[09:03] <keito> just found this..... 3) Use "Import" to import the contents of your old iTunesDB.
[09:03] <tach00> pelo, nothing like that in the list... its like: vesa, vga, voodoo, ati...that sort of thing
[09:04] <keito> didn't spot an import button though
[09:04] <keito> I'll look again
[09:04] <tach00> pelo, but nothing intel
[09:04] <obero1> imbecile: I think that ubuntuforums has a  howto on that
[09:04] <Pelo> tach00, go for vga
[09:04] <Flannel> mweichert: www-data, except it should be 755 already.  So you would have perms.
[09:04] <tach00> pelo, ok
[09:04] <Aye|> MasterShrek, nope, none of it worked ;S
[09:04] <nedw> Is there a way I can add something to a bash script to make it check if a needed package is installed?
[09:04] <pooja> hi
[09:04] <keito> I persnally don't use an ipod (iRiver iHP140 was the weapon of choice for me)
[09:04] <keito> thanks anyways
[09:04] <Flannel> mweichert: you got a 'directory contents listing not available' right?  (or whatever he exact wording)
[09:04] <obero1> nedw: you can use apt-cache showpkg
[09:05] <nedw> obero1: let me test it out
[09:05] <imbecile> obero Ill look through it.. i have trouble finding stuff in the forums alot however
[09:05] <Shaye> Flannel ok I have now few lines: root, kernel, quiet, save default?
[09:05] <nedw> obero: How can I use that in a bash script though?
[09:06] <unagi> can anyone help me get ubuntu to see my harddrive
[09:06] <Flannel> Shaye: right, on the kernel line, at the end, type vga=ask, then save it, and boot to it
[09:06] <Pelo> keito, there is another option for iriver but I forget what it is ,  try searching for iriver in synaptic
[09:06] <mweichert> Flannel: well, actually it said "you do not have permissions to view this resource"
[09:06] <obero1> nedw: lets say you need gaim, ok?
[09:06] <Pelo> unagi, are you running a raid array ?
[09:06] <nedw> obero1: ok
[09:06] <Bogus8> I couldn't make my screen come back on after being idle for X minutes... I could see HD activity so I knew it was working... I had to ctr+alt+backspace to get it to come back up... any clues?
[09:06] <Flannel> mweichert: Right.  Probably because you can't view the directory contents.  Your perms are probably fine.
[09:06] <Bogus8> this is a laptop Toshiba Tecra M3
[09:06] <unagi> no...but the laptop has a raid controller.....on windows i needed promise drivers....on linux....i dont know what to do
[09:07] <facefacefaceface> how do I check the status of the apmd on my laptop?
[09:07] <Pelo> !raid | unagi  try this
[09:07] <ubotu> unagi  try this: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:07] <howlingmadhowie> nedw: you can also try: dpkg -s $PACKAGE_NAME | grep Status:
[09:07] <facefacefaceface> screen used to dim when I unplugged the power, now it don't
[09:07] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: under power management there is that setting
[09:07] <Shaye> Flannel it booted normally ;[
[09:07] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, are you sure?
[09:07] <Shaye> lol
[09:07] <obero1> nedw: var1=`apt-cache showpkg gaim | grep "something"`
[09:08] <tach00> PELO, OK I WENT THRU THE SETUP AND WHEN IT FINISHED, NOTHING HAPPENED, DO I NEED TO REBOOT
[09:08] <mweichert> Flannel: okay, thanks a lot for your help!
[09:08] <howlingmadhowie> unagi: so the drive is plugged into a raid controller. i think you need the alternative install cd for that if not directly the server install cd
[09:08] <facefacefaceface> it was  a distinct 'dimming' when I pulled the power plug
[09:08] <tach00> pelo, sorry caps
[09:08] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: I just asked about a similar problem... I can't get my screen to come back on after it turns off
[09:08] <Bogus8> so I just double checked my settings ;)
[09:08] <Pelo> tach00,  you need to turn off capslock first
[09:08] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, how do I get the gui up?
[09:08] <unimatrix9> how would i ( on terminal ) turn compiz off and run normal gnome , and how run normal kde?
[09:08] <tach00> pelo, i did, sorry
[09:08] <unagi> what is alternate cd
[09:08] <Flannel> Shaye: you need to hit 'b' once you've edited (and make sure you hit... uh, enter? to save changes) to boot it from within the editor sort of thing
[09:08] <iltomee>  sudo mount.davfs https://server /somewhere fails for me? any suggestions?
[09:08] <Pelo> tach00,   ctrl alt backspace will restart X   and should start the new settings
[09:08] <nedw> obero1: as far as i know apt-cache doesn't indicate whether or not a package is installed
[09:08] <unagi> !alternate
[09:08] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[09:08] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: huh? are you in X ... power management is in the menu
[09:09] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: gnome I assume?
[09:09] <obero1> hang on
[09:09] <unagi> what?
[09:09] <Pelo> unagi,  you can download it from the site like the live cd
[09:09] <cwillu> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a laptop;  it doesn't seem to be detecting the old copy of windows on it though (xp)
[09:09] <Flannel> nedw: dpkg -l | grep [package] 
[09:09] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, OK, yup, just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing
[09:09] <unagi> i dont know how to install text mode
[09:09] <obero1> nedw: hang on
[09:09] <Flannel> unagi: Its exactly the same as installing wth the GUI.  You get asked the same questions and prompted with the same choices
[09:09] <claudiu>  is there a compiz fusion irc channel ?
[09:09] <Pelo> unagi,  it's not command ,it is just text based question and answer  donT' be scared
[09:09] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: so you never had any problems getting your screen to power back on after power management shut it off (idle timeout)
[09:09] <facefacefaceface> system -> pref -> power management...
[09:09] <unagi> oh ok just text
[09:10] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, nope
[09:10] <Pelo> claudiu, #compix-fusion
[09:10] <facefacefaceface> but I do have a strange glytch when I unplug the power
[09:10] <unagi> but what does text based have to do with seeing the hd just curious
[09:10] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: I just installed and when I woke up I couldn't get it back on.. had to ctr+alt+backspace to restart X
[09:10] <nedw> Flannel: thanks, that's what i was looking for
[09:10] <facefacefaceface> in that gui I see very few options
[09:10] <randoman> #opencompositing is the compizfusion channel
[09:10] <nedw> obero1: Flannel's solution worked
[09:10] <Pelo> unagi, nothing but the cd contains the stuff to see the raid
[09:10] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: it's on the last tab?
[09:10] <howlingmadhowie> nedw: something like this, maybe? INSTALLED=`dpkg -s $PACKAGE_NAME 2>/dev/null | grep Status`
[09:10] <unagi> i see
[09:10] <kitche> randoman: umm #compiz-fusion is the compiz-fusion channel
[09:10] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, running on AC, battery , general
[09:11] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: no, "on battery"
[09:11] <cwillu> how do I get the live cd to not completely wipe the hd?  I'm not seeing an option anywhere
[09:11] <randoman> alright, they changed it withen the last month
[09:11] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: it's pretty plain and simple "screen brightness" or something like that
[09:11] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, click 'on bat' and I seee two sleep options, a 'when lid closed' option and 'when power crit' option
[09:11] <nedw> howlingmadhowie: let me check if i can get Flannel's tip working in context
[09:11] <kitche> randoman: #opencompositing takes you to it though
[09:11] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: no slider for brightness?
[09:11] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, I don't see anything to do with brightness
[09:11] <Pelo> cwillu, you need to resize your paertition first to make room and tyou use the use the largest unallocated space option or the manual option when you get to the paritionning section
[09:11] <randoman> oh ok
[09:11] <facefacefaceface> nope
[09:11] <randoman> well the forwarded it
[09:11] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: hmm... odd
[09:12] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, ;-)
[09:12] <cwillu> Pelo: the installer doesn't do it anymore?
[09:12] <facefacefaceface> I thought I had not found it so easily!
[09:12] <Pelo> cwillu, probably but I like to do it ahead of time,  seems safer
[09:12] <howlingmadhowie> nedw: flannels tip is probably better than mine, depending on how dpkg works. but if you're writing a script, speed won't be of the essence anyway
[09:12] <Flannel> cwillu: yes, it does.  You do 'manual partitioning' and you can massage whatever partitions.  But there's an automated method that'll use an unallocated piece of your HDD, if you've got one.
[09:12] <obero1> nedw: you still there?
[09:12] <facefacefaceface> anyone know what cli is equiv to 'sytem -> pref -> power management' ?
[09:12] <nedw> obero1: yes
[09:13] <obero1> nedw: good
[09:13] <andyp_> hi
[09:13] <tcpdump_> whaddap?
[09:13] <obero1> nedw: try this directory
[09:13] <cwillu> Flannel: the manual partitioning option just gives me the option of deleting the partition, no resize that I can see
[09:13] <howlingmadhowie> facefacefaceface: can't you right click on it and see what it calls?
[09:14] <obero1> nedw: /var/lib/dpkg/info
[09:14] <facefacefaceface> howlingmadhowie, got it
[09:14] <facefacefaceface> brb
[09:14] <TBotNik_u> /exec ifconfig
[09:14] <andyp_> installed a package installed on comamnd line with dpkg -i now tried to remove with dpkg -r and dpkg -P but cannot
[09:14] <rancidlm> hey all can some one please help... my /home/MYUSERNAME is gone right now my /home/ is emty how do i re-create my user  gdm won't let me login ?
[09:15] <nedw> obero1: i'll try that if what i'm doing now doesn't work; thanks for the tip
[09:15] <grm1> hi, i've get this patch (http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/mac80211/downloads/mac80211-9.0.4.tgz) and apply to kernel (linux-source-2.6.20). no errors appears during patch. but when rebuild kernel i got the following -> http://pastebin.com/m5738716f. could you help me please ?
[09:15] <dromer> hmm, the support on the forums isn't really as good as I had hoped :(
[09:15] <Tiptronic> how do i install linux on a vista machine? i boot from cd, it checks for drivers and stuff, then it goes blank and nothin happens
[09:15] <unagi> madriva support sucks lol
[09:15] <rudy_1> good evening
[09:15] <rancidlm> if i go sudo mkdir /home/rancidlm  i get permissions after login plz help :)
[09:15] <Pelo> andyp_, look in synaptic, in the status menu view ( bottom left button),   under the local packages secton
[09:15] <Flannel> rancidlm: you'll need to reboot and choose the 'recovery console' and then create the directory.
[09:16] <dromer> Tiptronic: "vista machine"? what are the specifications of your computer and what does vista have to do with it?
[09:16] <Pelo> Tiptronic,  what video card ?
[09:16] <rudy_1> my pppd connection is starting up automatically at the X Window login
[09:16] <Flannel> rancidlm: You'll need to chown it to your user, since with sudo mkdir you'll have it owned by root by default
[09:16] <nex> hi
[09:16] <andyp_> Pelo: i am in fluxbox not gnome or kde
[09:16] <rudy_1> anyone knows where this setup can be found and changed?
[09:16] <unagi> Tiptronic: vista has nothing to do with it
[09:16] <rancidlm> Flannel: i can get to console but what permission do i give it?
[09:16] <unagi> rudy_1: have you checked sessions?
[09:16] <riyonuk> Does anyone know of any of these minimilistic themes? Like this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=39728&d=1186168304 I'm hoping someone can link me to some, as Im looking for a particular one, and maybe I can get lucky :D
[09:16] <Tiptronic> nvnida 6150, 1,6ghz dual core amd, 1gb ram
[09:16] <nex> I can't get xgl to load properly when starting a session? any thoughts?
[09:16] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, I got "Gnome gnome-power-preferences 2.14.3" what do you have?
[09:16] <Flannel> rancidlm: chown username:username /home/username
[09:16] <dromer> 4 I'm hoping someone can link me to some, as Im looking for a particular one, and maybe I can get lucky :D
[09:17] <Pelo> andyp_, try man dpkg see if you have the correct options
[09:17] <cwillu> !xgl > nex
[09:17] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: http://gilligan.kicks-ass.org:1023/Screenshot.png
[09:17] <rudy_1> unagi: i haven't unagi... where to do it?
[09:17] <andyp_> Pelo: yes did that already
[09:17] <unagi> system > pref > sessions
[09:17] <Tiptronic> dromer: wat is the 1st step for installin ubuntu
[09:17] <unimatrix9> riyonuk , cant see any theme in your url ?
[09:17] <aneb> cwillu: what do u want to do
[09:17] <Pelo> Tiptronic,  nvidia does not provide FOSS drivers so they are not inlucded in ubuntu vanila, you need to use the alternate install cd to install and then install the restricted drivers afterwards
[09:17] <Tiptronic> wat cud br da prob then?
[09:17] <Pelo> andyp_,  that's the best I can do for you
[09:17] <tcpdump_> lern2spk plz
[09:18] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: I have ver 2.18.2
[09:18] <riyonuk> I think you have to be logged in?
[09:18] <Tiptronic> oh, ubuntu will find these drivers 4me?
[09:18] <Tiptronic> after installation?
[09:18] <dromer> Tiptronic: partitioning your harddrive
[09:18] <andyp_> Pelo: yes ok thanks for trying
[09:18] <rudy_1> unagi: I checked right now, there's nothing about a ppd session to startup
[09:18] <Pelo> Tiptronic, some ar provided but just come here and we will give you instrucions,
[09:18] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, hrm... where is my update dammit!
[09:18] <unimatrix9> riyonuk , gnome theme?
[09:18] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: don't know... like I said, I just installed 7.04 and ran the update once
[09:18] <Tiptronic> k thanks alot. i downloaaded tha alternate cd so i'll just burn it and try it out
[09:18] <facefacefaceface> Bogaurd, that screenshot was of a screen shot tool...
[09:19] <facefacefaceface> how do I find my ununtu version?
[09:19] <Pelo> Tiptronic, best of luck
[09:19] <rudy_1> there's network manager... but i dont0' think this is launching a pppd session
[09:19] <cwillu> aneb: a dual boot would be nice, but I'd settle for just having the docs copied to a new partition
[09:19] <Flannel> facefacefaceface: lsb_release -a
[09:19] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: was it? LOL... I didn't even look LOL
[09:19] <dromer> Tiptronic: where are you from? there might be ubuntu-support in your native country
[09:19] <Pelo> facefacefaceface,  menu <system > admin > system monitor , firsttab
[09:19] <nex> anyone please?
[09:19] <rudy_1> unagi: do u know about any file i could check for startup applications?
[09:19] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, heheh
[09:19] <facefacefaceface> 6.06 !!!
[09:19] <facefacefaceface> OMG etc.
[09:19] <grm1> hi, i've get this patch (http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/mac80211/downloads/mac80211-9.0.4.tgz) and apply to kernel (linux-source-2.6.20). no errors appears during patch. but when rebuild kernel i got the following -> http://pastebin.com/m5738716f. could you help me please ?
[09:19] <cwillu> !xgl
[09:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:19] <Pelo> nex,  state your issue, as you can see this is a busy channel sometimes ppl get lost in the traffic
[09:20] <rudy_1> rudy_1: ...
[09:20] <tcpdump_> nex ask again
[09:20] <grm1> !iwlwifi
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iwlwifi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <fredl> Hmm anybody have any idea what could cause nautilus to start up real slow all of the sudden? Any way to check what's going on when it starts up?
[09:20] <Tiptronic> i'm from JA
[09:20] <Tiptronic> jamaica
[09:20] <rudy_1> l
[09:20] <facefacefaceface> soo... how do I use apt to get 7.0ish
[09:20] <grm1> !4965
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 4965 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <facefacefaceface> (and do I really want to)
[09:20] <grm1> !4965AGN
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 4965agn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <Flannel> !upgrade | facefacefaceface
[09:20] <ubotu> facefacefaceface: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:20] <cwillu> face, update-manager should do it
[09:20] <unimatrix9> riyonuk , go take an look here http://art.gnome.org/
[09:20] <Pelo> facefacefaceface, you can't directly,  you'lll need to go trhough 6.10 first,  my sugestion just get the 7.04 live cd and clean install
[09:20] <facefacefaceface> Thansk Flannel
[09:20] <mikka_candle> !ident
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <mikka_candle> !ident
[09:20] <facefacefaceface> cwillu, really?
[09:21] <grm1> !help hi, i've get this patch (http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/mac80211/downloads/mac80211-9.0.4.tgz) and apply to kernel (linux-source-2.6.20). no errors appears during patch. but when rebuild kernel i got the following -> http://pastebin.com/m5738716f. could you help me please ?
[09:21] <facefacefaceface> Pelo, ty
[09:21] <randoman> anyone how to add these to pkg-conig
[09:21] <randoman> No package 'xvmc' found
[09:21] <randoman> No package 'xineramaproto' found
[09:21] <randoman> No package 'randrproto' found
[09:21] <randoman> No package 'renderproto' found
[09:21] <randoman> No package 'xextproto' found
[09:21] <tcpdump_> OMG
[09:21] <randoman> No package 'xextproto' found
[09:21] <tcpdump_> OMG OMGOMG
[09:21] <pramz> please do not spam
[09:21] <rbronosky> How can I find the IP of a Fiesty maching without a login?  (I have a guy on the phone who has physical access to to box.)
[09:21] <tcpdump_> !pastebin :[
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin :[ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <tcpdump_> !pastebin
[09:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:21] <pramz> rbronosky, ifconfig
[09:21] <_jason> randoman: what are you trying to compile?
[09:21] <Pelo> randoman, menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[09:21] <Flannel> rbronosky: without a login?
[09:21] <grm1> randoman, sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[09:21] <rbronosky> yes, without a login.
[09:22] <randoman> ahh i missed xorg-dev
[09:22] <randoman> thanks
[09:22] <pramz> rbronosky, ahh no login
[09:22] <randoman> it needs to install alot there
[09:22] <facefacefaceface> yikes ... I find this channel stressful !
[09:22] <randoman> :P
[09:22] <Daedalea> hello
[09:22] <Shaye> Flannel I managed to do it, it seems that the res I was on was better hehe, thanks for ur help
[09:22] <Daedalea> anyone here?
[09:22] <rbronosky> I am the owner of the box. I don't want the guy on the phone to know my password.
[09:22] <Pelo> facefacefaceface,  try being one of the helpers
[09:22] <Flannel> rbronosky: I don't think you can.  Without a machine on the same subnet, or the router.
[09:22] <facefacefaceface> Pelo, niaahahah
[09:22] <randoman> and im trying to compile /xf86-video-intel-2.1.0
[09:22] <Daedalea> can anyone tell me how to join other chats and channels?
[09:22] <Flannel> Daedalea: /join #channel
[09:22] <tcpdump_> you cannot, you need router access or access to another machine onthe network
[09:22] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: http://gilligan.kicks-ass.org:1023/Screenshot.png
[09:22] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: got it now ;)
[09:22] <Pelo> Daedalea,   /join #channelname
[09:22] <pramz> rbronosky, if it gets an ip from dhcp, check the leases in the dhcp server
[09:22] <Daedalea> how do I know what channel number to join
[09:23] <rbronosky> I am on the same network, I have a user and password.  I just need to IP so I can login.
[09:23] <Daedalea> or the different channel names?
[09:23] <grm1> randoman, that work successfully
[09:23] <Pelo> Daedalea,  what are you looking for ?
[09:23] <randoman> umm  still installing
[09:23] <tcpdump_> type arp -a from another machine on the subnet
[09:23] <randoman> i just pressed enter :P
[09:23] <Daedalea> I am here to promote my first published poem
[09:23] <tcpdump_> should give you the surrounding machines
[09:23] <Daedalea> so any kind of general chat
[09:23] <randoman> let me check
[09:23] <Daedalea> realy
[09:23] <randoman> its done now
[09:23] <Pelo> Daedalea, not realy the correct network for that,  try on dalnet
[09:23] <Daedalea> http://www.authspot.com/Poetry/On-Woman-Kind.38480
[09:23] <Daedalea> dalnet? whats that?
[09:23] <tcpdump_> type /server irc.dal.net
[09:24] <pramz> Daedalea, another irc network, one of the oldest ones still around
[09:24] <tcpdump_> then /list once you are connected
[09:24] <marti149> hi guys - what video driver do u use for  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7183
[09:24] <tcpdump_> corrrrection... efnet is older than dalnet xD
[09:24] <Pelo> Daedalea,  another network,  go and /join #xchat for an explanaiton on how to joing other netwroks and channel
[09:24] <randoman> yep it almost worked
[09:24] <bentob0x> anybody would have a good article to understand well users management under linux?  Something going through concepts and examples and not a command-based tutorial?
[09:24] <randoman> but then i had to install libdrm-dev
[09:24] <randoman> and now it works
[09:24] <randoman> thanks :)
[09:24] <MasterShrek> marti149, ati or radeon probably
[09:24] <Juhaz> efnet and ircnet are both older, being forks of the Original
[09:24] <randoman> greatly apricated
[09:24] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, yup... that is what I don't have!
[09:24] <Pelo> tcpdump_,  he said one of the oldest
[09:25] <marti149> so the unknown device 71a3 means what?
[09:25] <thedash> pidgin says it needs a SSL library to run MSN, where do I find which one I need ?
[09:25] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: yeah, I know it's of no REAL help... but now you know it's not a myth ;)
[09:25] <rudy_1> anyone can give me a hint about how to check applications (pppd) automatic startup before login into X?
[09:25] <PriceChild> thedash, what's wrong with gaim?
[09:25] <MasterShrek> bentob0x, if you are ever going to excel in linux, you cant be afraid of the command line
[09:25] <thedash> PriceChild :: I thought Gaim had been replaced by pidgin ?
[09:26] <rbronosky> tcpdump_: I am on a different switch than my target machine.  So I only get the few machines around me.
[09:26] <facefacefaceface> Bogus8, thanks
[09:26] <PriceChild> !highno | thedash
[09:26] <ubotu> thedash: A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.
[09:26] <Pelo> rudy_1,  no idea what you just asked, but autostart apps are in  /etc/init.d and ~/.config/autostart
[09:26] <facefacefaceface> its not unhelpful!
[09:26] <bentob0x> it has nothing to do with that, it's more about the implementation than the commands themselves
[09:26] <rudy_1> thanks Pelo
[09:26] <rudy_1> will check now
[09:26] <tcpdump_> if its on a switch arp -a wont pick it up anyways
[09:26] <tcpdump_> would only work on a hub i'd assume
[09:27] <thedash> it looks pretty much the same to me so far
[09:27] <tcpdump_> tell him to reboot the machine and log in single user mode? create a login for himself
[09:27] <Bogus8> facefacefaceface: at least you know it's out there now :)
[09:27] <tcpdump_> and then login and ifconfig
[09:27] <randoman> well now i get this when doing make
[09:27] <randoman> /usr/include/GL/glxint.h:28:19: error: GL/gl.h: No such file or directory
[09:27] <tcpdump_> quickest way i can think of
[09:27] <MasterShrek> !users
[09:27] <ubotu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[09:27] <facefacefaceface> Pelo, me too
[09:28] <Bogus8> Pelo: certainly not the best and I sure hope there is an inside joke there we aren't getting
[09:28] <askand> I get "xgl not present" when running compiz --replace..why can that be?
[09:28] <facefacefaceface> but... thing is ... it used to work on this laptop... and now its broke...
[09:28] <facefacefaceface> so how do I check the status of apmd?
[09:28] <rbronosky> he's a windows user, I don't trust him to not brake it.
[09:28] <tcpdump_> askand: apparently your video driver doesnt support xgl
[09:28] <s0nix> I need some opinion: i want to replace my fu*k*ng ATI 9800XT 256mb for have good video performance and a great desktop BERYL + dual screen + accell 3D for play some game also... im thinking about this card: http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10088627&atab=&spviewed=&newlang=EN&logon=&langid=FR  ...... what do u think? is it reallt better than my 9800xt ?
[09:28] <faceface> I'm back baby!
[09:28] <howlingmadhowie> Pelo: you're helping all of us by just being you :)
[09:28] <askand>  tcpdump_: can I check if it supports it from the terminal some how?
[09:29] <Pelo> facefacefaceface, try doing a search in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org,  maybe you'll find help there
[09:29] <Bogus8> faceface: are you the guy from nickolodean? ;)
[09:29] <faceface> uh? who is that?
[09:29] <howlingmadhowie> Bogus8: i was wondering if he's a fan of the a-team
[09:29] <faceface>  /nick face was taken :(
[09:29] <Bogus8> faceface: there was a character that played during comercials called "Face" it was just an animated face that took up the entire screen
[09:29] <faceface> but my face does indeed resemble a face... hence faceface
[09:29] <Pelo> faceface,  how about 2face
[09:29] <PriceChild> thedash, exactly, which is why you should stick with gaim as its fully supported
[09:29] <howlingmadhowie> faceface: you could have called yourself faceman :)
[09:30] <maTh3Z> s0nix, i have Geforce 7600 too an i have no problems with 3d
[09:30] <Bogus8> faceface: as long as it is a CLOSE proximity thne ok
[09:30] <faceface> howlingmadhowie, and you *could* have called yourself 'unkleFunnyPants'
[09:30] <face^2> =P
[09:30] <faceface> doh!
[09:30] <faceface> drop it all of you! I'm not changing
[09:30] <ikee> Ok I just reinstalled Ubuntu. After the loading screen with the bar it goes into a black screen... Any Ideas how to solve this?
[09:31] <s0nix> maTh3Z: do u have a dual screen and beryl ? and do u play some game ?
[09:31] <Bogus8> lame
[09:31] <MasterShrek> =P
[09:31] <leonard_> does anyone where to get firefox 2.X for ubuntu sparc (I'm running dapper)
[09:31] <nex> I can't get xgl working
[09:31] <Pelo> nex,  try asking in #ubuntu-effects they are good with graphic stuff
[09:32] <howlingmadhowie> leonard_: there's a university somewhere in america which has firefox downloads for linux and solaris on sparc. let me see if i can find it...
[09:32] <maTh3Z> s0nix: i have only 256mb but i'm test on it Compiz fusion in Sabayon and beryl on ubuntu, but i don't test games, if you want invest more to the future buy something a bit stronger
[09:32] <leonard_> howlingmadhowie, thanks
[09:32] <str1> hi,  im traying to unmount my usb drive but it keeps failing and saying "An application is preventing ...from bieng unmounted"
[09:33] <s0nix> maTh3Z: ok
[09:33] <Pelo> str1, is any app opened ? which ?
[09:33] <str1> i checked but there is no activity on the usb drive and nothing is open regarding it... how can i unmount it
[09:33] <str1> Pelo: ^
[09:33] <Pelo> str1, not quite what I asked
[09:33] <pike_> it is so odd to see people complaining of 256MB vid cards not being strong enough..
[09:33] <howlingmadhowie> leonard_: what sort of sparc machine have you got, btw? :)
[09:33] <faceface> apmd start -> No APM support in kernel
[09:34] <tcpdump_> if you are certain nothing is open you can use the -f switch of umount to force an unmount
[09:34] <obero1> str1: how comfortable with the cmd line?
[09:34] <tcpdump_> but you may end up with bad data... man mount for syntax
[09:34] <leonard_> blade 100, ultra sparc IIe
[09:34] <Pelo> faceface, search for apm in synaptic see what comes up
[09:34] <neozen> greetings all
[09:34] <faceface> ty Pelo
[09:34] <tcpdump_> err man umount rather
[09:34] <str1> Pelo: there is no app open from the usb drive if you thats what u mean...  i havelots of apps on the system pidgin/ktorrent/amarok etc...
[09:35] <randoman> well make seems to be wroking now, I had to install an assload of libs
[09:35] <randoman> apt-get install libvorbis-dev liblircclient-dev libesd0-dev libsdl-dev libid3-3.8.3-dev libflac-dev liboggflac-dev libsndfile1-dev
[09:35] <neozen> how would one identify which version of ubuntu-server is installed on a remote box from the terminal?
[09:35] <obero1> str1: how comfortable are you with the cmd line?
[09:35] <maTh3Z> s0nix: and can you help me with this? after booting feisty live cd it can't detect my real resolution and refresh rate, where can i set it
[09:35] <Pelo> str1, I was thinking that one app may be monitoring the usb drive for relevant data,  amorak might be a suspect
[09:35] <str1> so i can force it to unmount ?
[09:35] <tcpdump_> neozen: uname -r
[09:35] <str1> Pelo: ok ill try closing that
[09:35] <neozen> tcpdump_: thank you
[09:35] <howlingmadhowie> leonard_: cool :) i have an ultrasparc 10 and a blade 1000 (which is unfortunately at the moment broken). i can't find firefox packages for sparc and linux. maybe my memory is tricking me. they must be in the ubuntu/feisty/sparc depos however.
[09:35] <tcpdump_> anytime.
[09:35] <Pelo> str1,  umount -f  /path I beleive
[09:36] <tcpdump_> who likes killswitch engage? anyone? :o
[09:36] <leonard_> howlingmadhowie, would you recommend a distro upgrade, do you reckon the blade would be able to handle that?
[09:36] <pike_> neozen: cat /etc/*release also
[09:36] <neozen> tcpdump_: um... all that gave me was the version number for the kernel
[09:36] <s0nix> maTh3Z: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:36] <neozen> pike_: thankee I'll try that
[09:36] <tcpdump_> yeah listen to pike then if you want the ubuntu version
[09:36] <str1> Pelo: i tried umount as root but it says device is busy... i closed all system apps
[09:36] <maTh3Z> sonix: thanks
[09:36] <str1> Pelo: the light is not even bliking so thats strange
[09:37] <s0nix> maTh3Z: and check about a line "Modes" or "Modeline" ... u will see the current reso and setting of the screen.
[09:37] <faceface> thanks dudes, I let you know if I fix it
[09:37] <Pelo> str1, did you try with   the -f option ?
[09:37] <janus> ta ta
[09:37] <str1> Pelo: yes
[09:37] <Flannel> howlingmadhowie: there is indeed.
[09:37] <str1> Pelo:   "sudo umount -f /media/IOMEGA_HDD"
[09:37] <cwillu> Ahhhhhhh.  The installer doesn't give you the option to resize unless the drive is clean (i.e., clean shutdown).  However, it'd sure be nice if it told you that was why (I know it knows, because gparted knows)
[09:38] <howlingmadhowie> leonard_: my ultrasparc10 used to run feisty without any difficulties.
[09:38] <tcpdump_> str: if you type lsof |grep <usb device name here> do you see anything?
[09:38] <howlingmadhowie> leonard_: if you want, ice-weasel is in the debian repositories
[09:38] <cwillu> I guess that means I have to make xp not bluescreen on shutdown :(
[09:38] <Pelo> str1, do a search in the forum for  force umount   I know htere is a way to do it
[09:38] <ufk> i can't seem to configure my network card for static IP, it appears in ifconfig with no ip address. i added this to /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth0 inet static \ address x \ netmask x\ broadcast x \ gateway x. any ideas ?
[09:38] <STixx> I downloaded internet explorer..and it says that it cannont display the webpage...help?..the interntet works just fine...
[09:38] <Ecalix> trying to find the driver for my usb sound.... does "snd-usb-audio" sound right?
[09:39] <str1> Pelo: ok ill check that
[09:39] <cki> Hello :) Who can help me with installing drivers for 1 wi-fi Adapter
[09:39] <cki> I cant understand some things
[09:39] <str1> tcpdump_:  i tried lsof | grep /media/IOMEGA_HDD/ but that hangs
[09:39] <cwillu> cki:  what things?
[09:39] <palintheus> !ask
[09:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:39] <anchor_> hy i use "feisty fawn" my problem is: vim ignnore my .vimrc
[09:39] <howlingmadhowie> leonard_: but there's a large list of dependencies for the debian build of ice-weasel 2.0.6
[09:39] <tcpdump_> ufk type this at console: ifconfig eth0 <ip> <netmask>
[09:39] <tcpdump_> does it retain a setting then?
[09:39] <tcpdump_> make sure you sudo that command, btw
[09:39] <obero1> str1: do you want another way?
[09:39] <cki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49070 i was reading this
[09:40] <Pelo> anchor_,  using vim as root will have it check for .vimrc in  the root home folder
[09:40] <ufk> tcpdump_, but i don't want it to be set up only for this session, i want it to be set up after a reboot
[09:40] <tcpdump_> str1: it may take a while to pull up the list
[09:40] <cki> im useing ubuntu 7.04
[09:40] <cki> do i need to compile my kernel?
[09:40] <str1> obero1:  ye but i moved stuff to the srive i don't want to lose stuff
[09:40] <anchor_> Pelo, i use ivim as normal user
[09:40] <borga2> can anyone tell me witch version of v4l-dvb that is installed with 7.04?
[09:40] <obero1> yup
[09:40] <cwillu> cki: it didn't work out of the box for you?
[09:40] <tcpdump_> ufk: edit /etc/rc.local and put the ifconfig line in there.
[09:41] <obero1> str1: open a terminal
[09:41] <STixx> I downloaded internet explorer..and it says that it cannont display the webpage...help?..the interntet works just fine..
[09:41] <Pelo> borga2,  search for it in syanptic and you will see the version next to the package name
[09:41] <Vinchenzo28> anyone play command and conquer 3 on ubuntu?
[09:41] <cki> well when i try to make
[09:41] <ufk> ahm "ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.321" produces 10.0.0.321: unknown host. any ideas ?
[09:41] <cwillu> cki: I've got a tiny usb wireless thingy that uses that driver, worked fine for me
[09:41] <str1> obero1: done
[09:41] <erez> how can i upgrade to gutsy without reinstalling from scratch? i have a feeling that editing sources.list isn't the best idea..
[09:41] <leonard_> howlingmadhowie, sorry for the slow reply, I'm making pancakes. I was having some troubles installing Linux on the machine, so I wouldn't like to break it
[09:41] <tcpdump_> downloaded internet explorer?
[09:41] <cki> well i got too :)
[09:41] <tcpdump_> i didnt know they had that for ubuntu
[09:41] <cki> but cant compile and install the driver
[09:41] <borga2> I've uppgraded to latest hg version because of problems with a nova-t 500 card
[09:41] <str1> obero1: wjat if i reboot will that correctly unmount ?
[09:41] <STixx> FUCK UBUNTU
[09:41] <howlingmadhowie> cki: you don't need to recompile the kernel any longer. support is compiled into the default kernel
[09:41] <STixx> shits gayyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:41] <Pelo> STixx,  try asking for help on this in #winehq
[09:41] <obero1> that is a MS way of doing it
[09:41] <cki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49070
[09:42] <cki> ops
[09:42] <anchor_> Pelo, i use the same vimrc on a different distribution but the with the same vim version
[09:42] <cki> see
[09:42] <howlingmadhowie> leonard_: i understand. having trouble with the install cd booting?
[09:42] <tcpdump_> ufk you are using incorrent syntax for the command: man ifconfig :)
[09:42] <cki> zd1201-0.14-fw# make  INSTALL zd1201.fw zd1201-ap.fw
[09:42] <cki> Failed:  No firmware directory found
[09:42] <cki> make: *** [install]  Error 1
[09:42] <cwillu> cki: I mean, I didn't need to compile anything, although my custom kernel was a bit complicated
[09:42] <Pelo> anchor_, I donT' know anymore about it  sorry
[09:42] <anchor_> Pelo, ok, thx
[09:42] <ufk> aahhh i'm so cool! i chose ip 10.0.0.321 :)
[09:42] <obero1> str1: you can use fuser to see what process have opened to the usb disk
[09:42] <tach00> d the xserver and everything on the screen is white, now i am in safe mode and cant log back into my account
[09:42] <cki> seei type make
[09:43] <str1> obero1: ok... :)
[09:43] <Le_Fou_> hi
[09:43] <ufk> heh thanks :)
[09:43] <marti149> how do you know what version of ubuntu you have- ex feisty, etc
[09:43] <tcpdump_> ufk... ummm... maybe thats why its not working :[
[09:43] <howlingmadhowie> cki: the instructions are way old.
[09:43] <Le_Fou_> anyway i can apt get phpsysinfo on dapper lts?
[09:43] <str1> ober1: will i need to read a book about fuser to learn how to use it :)
[09:43] <cki> well where i can find a new one?
[09:43] <str1> obero1: ^
[09:43] <ufk> welp thanks for your help. it works now with ahmm... with an ip address :)
[09:43] <obero1> str1: would you like to learn how to use it right now?
[09:43] <tcpdump_> dueces
[09:43] <str1> obero1: yes please
[09:43] <marti149> how do you know what version of ubuntu you have- ex feisty, etc
[09:44] <obero1> str1: ok
[09:44] <Pelo> Le_Fou_, if it is in the repos yes , if not you'll have to find the source or a deb package
[09:44] <howlingmadhowie> marti149: lsb_release -a
[09:44] <tcpdump_> cat /etc/*release
[09:44] <tach00> pelo,  restarted the xserver and everything on the screen is white, now i am in safe mode and cant log back into my accoun
[09:44] <obero1> str1: open a terminal
[09:44] <str1> obero1: yes
[09:44] <Flannel> Le_Fou_: It's already there.  in universe
[09:44] <borga2> anyone out there who could check their version of v4l-dvb for me on Feisty Fawn (7.04) ?
[09:44] <Pelo> tach00, sorry aboutthat,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg,  and pick only the default options
[09:44] <obero1> str1: df -k
[09:44] <Le_Fou_> Pelo
[09:44] <Le_Fou_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:44] <Le_Fou_> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:44] <Le_Fou_> E: Couldn't find package phpsysinfo
[09:44] <tach00> pelo, thanks
[09:44] <Le_Fou_> zat means it isnt in the repos?
[09:45] <obero1> str1: that will list all the mounted filesystems
[09:45] <TBotNik_u> all: where is link to find GAIM plugins
[09:45] <cki> howlingmadhowie Where i can find something new ?
[09:45] <Flannel> Le_Fou_: You must not have universe enabled
[09:45] <Pelo> Le_Fou_,  yes that is what it means
[09:45] <str1> obero1: yes i found the usb drive there
[09:45] <howlingmadhowie> cki: what happens if you just enter "sudo modprobe zd1201"
[09:45] <anchor_> this is the vimrc i use: http://nopaste.info/c6eb4fb9d4.html
[09:45] <Pelo> Le_Fou_, or you have the wrong package name
[09:45] <cki> ill try sec
[09:45] <obero1> str1: ok, fuser /path/to/usb-drive
[09:45] <Flannel> Pelo: or he doesn't have universe enabled
[09:45] <Pelo> Flannel, good point
[09:46] <obero1> str1: on my machine it is fuser /media/disk
[09:46] <cki> well nothing happend
[09:46] <Pelo> Le_Fou_, make sure all the repositories are enable, ( and turn off your away msg )
[09:46] <Le_Fou_> oups sorry
[09:46] <str1> obero1:  output --> /media/IOMEGA_HDD:    5372
[09:46] <cki> i mean nothing come out onthe screen or nothing come  in the shell
[09:46] <anchor_> nothing work
[09:46] <Le_Fou_> hm
[09:46] <Le_Fou_> gonna find how to unable universe
[09:46] <tach00> pelo, done, now i am going to try to log back in and see if it worked.
[09:46] <str1> obero1: is that the process ID of the process using it ?
[09:46] <leonard_> yeah
[09:47] <howlingmadhowie> cki: that's a good sign. what does "ifconfig" say? can you paste the result in pastebin?
[09:47] <Flannel> !universe | Le_Fou_
[09:47] <ubotu> Le_Fou_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:47] <obero1> str1: good. Now do: ps auxw | grep 5372
[09:47] <leonard_> howlingmadhowie, yes, the only one I could make work was 6.06
[09:47] <Pelo> Le_Fou_, in synaptic,  check the menus  for repository,  multiverse is on the first tab
[09:47] <obero1> str1: yes that is the process id
[09:47] <cki> well ill try w8
[09:47] <Le_Fou_> thx Flannel
[09:47] <amrcidiot> guys how do i extract a file to my opt folder in terminal?
[09:47] <Le_Fou_> Pelo its a server
[09:47] <Le_Fou_> theres no graphic interface
[09:47] <Pelo> Le_Fou_, I can'T help further then , I'm a WIMP
[09:47] <cyrix> Hi there
[09:47] <Flannel> Le_Fou_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and uncomment the universe lines
[09:48] <JBandP> Hi Guys, im using ubuntu Feisty Fawn 7.04 and for some reason my network icon in my taskbar where i actually enable my eth connection disappeared.  Can anyone help me get it back?  i have no idea where it went.
[09:48] <Le_Fou_> loll Pelo
[09:48] <Le_Fou_> ok Flannel
[09:48] <str1> obero1: ok it showed two lines output... one is Thunar file manager and another says "grep 5372"
[09:48] <anchor_> No other use vim?
[09:48] <howlingmadhowie> leonard_: that's a standard problem with openboot. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. i haven't yet found a way to garantee that it'll work (though the solaris cds seems to always work). i can almost convince myself that it got better after i updated openboot
[09:48] <Curs0r> is the fatx kernel patch included in the ubuntu kernel source?
[09:48] <str1> obero1: so this means thunar is using the drive...but thunar is closed :(
[09:48] <Pelo> anchor_,  check for a vim website, they may have a faq a forum or a channel
[09:48] <obero1> str1: The one with the Thundar file manager is your culprit.
[09:49] <obero1> str1: kill <process_id>
[09:49] <cki> pastebin.con or pastebin.com?
[09:49] <cki> u want
[09:49] <rancidlm> is it possible to install the nvidia graphics driver from the nvidia website.. i have a new laptop thats not supported on the ubuntu nvidia package ?
[09:49] <Pelo> rancidlm, you need a source code
[09:49] <howlingmadhowie> !pastebin | cki
[09:49] <ubotu> cki: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:49] <rancidlm> Pelo: what package is that?
[09:50] <cki> ahaa 10x
[09:50] <Pelo> rancidlm, from the nvidia site if they have one I mean
[09:50] <obero1> str1: did it work?
[09:50] <str1> obero1: ok 1 thing... the process ID for the thunar process is also 5372...when i try to kill it it says no process killed
[09:50] <Pelo> !nvidia | rancidlm
[09:50] <ubotu> rancidlm: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:50] <anchor_> Pelo, is use and configure vim in the same way on other system (linux distribution) and it works so it sounds to me like a ubuntu special prob.
[09:50] <amrcidiot> what do i type into my termial to extract a .tar.gz package to my /opt folder?
[09:50] <Dribbles> any tips on getting ati radion x1600 working with ubunto dapper
[09:50] <Le_Fou_> Flannel i have enable universe but im getting the same error
[09:50] <leonard_> howlingmadhowie, yes, that of course is another way to go. I think I will try give the distro upgrade a try later tonight though, thanks for your help:)
[09:50] <Flannel> Le_Fou_: have you updated your package cache after editing the sources.list/
[09:50] <Flannel> Le_Fou_: sudo apt-get update
[09:50] <obero1> ok
[09:51] <howlingmadhowie> leonard_: good luck!
[09:51] <str1> obero1: never mind i killed it with kill
[09:51] <Pelo> anchor_, I'm just trying to point you to places where you can get the help you need
[09:51] <anchor_> ?
[09:51] <obero1> str1: cut and paste what the output of ps auxw | grep 5372
[09:51] <Le_Fou_> its updating Flannel
[09:52] <anchor_> can any global configuration overwite my personal one?
[09:52] <str1> obero1:  thanks for that it was very usefull... i know a bit about processed cos we have to write a shell in uni for a homework... this fuser tools is nice
[09:52] <cki> howlingmadhowie http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33269/
[09:52] <str1> obero1:  but can u tell me what is auxw   in the ps ?
[09:52] <Flannel> anchor_: no, your personal ones will take precidence
[09:52] <amrcidiot> anyone?
[09:52] <Alloosh> Hi, my dvd player does not recognize all dvds, some dvds are fine and with others its not, it just does not recognize the drive, and when I click it I get nothing
[09:52] <obero1> str1: man ps
[09:52] <mintsoup> hey what's that type of transparency where you can see other windows through it rather than through to the desktop?
[09:52] <cki> i  got my Lan cabel in and my Wi-fi usb in the USb-s :P
[09:52] <anchor_> Flannel, but vim ignore it
[09:53] <str1> obero1:  i did it wasn't there :)
[09:53] <Pelo> amrcidiot,   man  untar
[09:53] <amrcidiot> thanks
[09:53] <howlingmadhowie> cki: got it
[09:53] <str1> obero1:  they have aux only
[09:53] <obero1> str1: ok, hang on
[09:53] <howlingmadhowie> cki: you're using eth0 at the moment, i imagine
[09:53] <RiCCo69> do I have to buy cedega or is there a ripped vs of it out there?
[09:53] <Ecalix> in my udev symlinks i setup this line. does it look correct? BUS=="usb", DRIVER=="snd-usb-audio", KERNEL=="dsp1", SYMLINK="dsp"
[09:54] <CoasterMaster> how can I view the call stack of a program that crashed?
[09:54] <Ecalix> trying to symlink dsp1 to dsp
[09:54] <Pelo> RiCCo69, try wine before buying anything
[09:54] <yaustar> I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 and it hasn't picked up my WIreless card on the laptop? Any ideas?
[09:54] <str1> obero1: strange google gettings confused on "ps -auxw"
[09:54] <Alloosh> again the same question: Hi, my dvd player does not recognize all dvds, some dvds are fine and with others its not, it just does not recognize the drive, and when I click it I get nothing, any body know why?
[09:54] <RiCCo69> wine keeps crashing my system
[09:54] <ferret> RiCCo69: cedega release a version by cvs, you have to compile it yourself (or use a build script like cvswinex)
[09:54] <cki> so?
[09:54] <RiCCo69> it kicks me out of ubuntu and I have to login again
[09:54] <Radio> grr
[09:54] <Pelo> RiCCo69,  did you try the latest versions ?
[09:54] <obero1> str1:
[09:54] <obero1> str1:      u               display user-oriented format
[09:54] <Radio> i cant delete stuff from my flash drive... i get a read only error
[09:55] <rancidlm> aaak.. my laptop is so new i ubuntu doesn't support it yet..lol
[09:55] <RiCCo69> yeah I'm on r.8 beta
[09:55] <Pelo> Radio,    sudo chmod 777 /path
[09:55] <mrmonday_> I'm trying to make the chess game 3D, but can't find the packages... Which ones do I need?
[09:55] <mrmonday_> *right packages
[09:55] <str1> obero1: never mind sorry i thought auxw was one command... not a+u+x+w   :)
[09:55] <cki> howlingmadhowie so? any idea? or it works
[09:55] <cki> or what? :D
[09:56] <Pelo> RiCCo69,  maybe you should use stables instead of betas but ok,   yes you will have to buy cedega since it is a commerciial app
[09:56] <howlingmadhowie> cki: so it hasn't been picked up on yet. have you tried downloading and installing the deb: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=23369&d=1169141035
[09:56] <str1> obero1: as you can see i have a long way to go learning linux :)
[09:56] <obero1> str1: oh ok
[09:56] <obero1> str1: wanna hint?
[09:56] <str1> obero1: y
[09:56] <obero1> str1: google unix is a four lettered word
[09:57] <Le_Fou_> thx Flannel.its working :)
[09:57] <Le_Fou_> c ya
[09:57] <obero1> str1: and get Unix reference from Oreilly
[09:57] <Radio> meh
[09:57] <thedash> is there a tutorial or something that will allow a complete moron to set up Beryl ?
[09:57] <howlingmadhowie> cki: hang on: look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb
[09:57] <Radio> does the chmod apply to all the directory contents?
[09:57] <gnurph> I'm making progress, thank you to those who have helped so far.
[09:57] <Pelo> thedash, ask in #beryl
[09:57] <gnurph> next step:  BIND configuration
[09:57] <Radio> or is there some way to to do it recursively?
[09:57] <Pelo> Radio,  yes
[09:57] <Flannel> thedash: check the forums, and you probably would be more interested in compiz-fusion
[09:57] <thavorn> I cannot play real meal using gxine, error : cannot load library cook.so and drvc.so. I can play real meal 2 days ago
[09:58] <thedash> Pelo:: now that would be smart, wouldn't it ?
[09:58] <str1> obero1: funny i have that book... linux in a nutshell oreilly...never opened it :)  ill take a look at it now
[09:58] <thavorn> real media
[09:58] <gnurph> can't find a GUI interface to set it up.  ideas that somebody would like to share?
[09:58] <howlingmadhowie> str1: linux in a nutshell is really good :)
[09:58] <obero1> str1: yup typ
[09:58] <howlingmadhowie> str1: (if you want to look stuff up)
[09:58] <Pelo> thedash, it's just a better place to ask a beryl question  , they have all the info on hand
[09:58] <thavorn> cannot play real media, error loading libray cook.so and drvc.so. I can play real media 2 days ago
[09:58] <str1> ok thanks for the help. bye
[09:59] <MrObvious> Hi everyone.
[09:59] <gnurph> or is BIND only configurable from a command line?
[09:59] <yaustar> As far as I can tell, my card (ipw2200) driver hasn't been loaded. lspci sees it though. How do I load the driver?
[10:00] <pramz> gnurph, have you checked out webmin ?
[10:00] <pramz> gnurph, there are web based and gtk based tools to configure BIND
[10:00] <SysError> Pelo: still getting read only errors
[10:00] <pramz> gnurph, http://85.214.17.244/gadmintools/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=33
[10:01] <pramz> gnurph, http://www.webmin.com
[10:01] <Pelo> SysError, what is the format of that usb drive ? fat fat32 ntfs ?
[10:01] <MrObvious> yaustar: Did you try this:? http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/INSTALL
[10:01] <gnurph> webmin isn't showing up in Synaptic, but I'll check out webmin.com
[10:01] <jmesquita> Guys, does anyone know a good tool to draw network schematics for linux?
[10:01] <SysError> how do i check?
[10:01] <cki> howlingmadhowie is this better than the ndiswrapper?
[10:01] <SysError> its probably ntfs
[10:02] <kmaynard> gnurph: webmin isnt in the repositories anymore
[10:02] <RiCCo69> anyone havea good game out therethat's  amuse me... (i'm working I'm boared)
[10:02] <Pelo> jmesquita, look in add/remove under graphics there are a few apps to draw schemas
[10:02] <mneptok> RiCCo69: sudo apt-get install maelstrom
[10:02] <ElemonGW_> #ubuntu-missouri #ubuntu-mississippi #ubuntu-minnesota #ubuntu-michigan #ubuntu-massachusetts #ubuntu-maryland #ubuntu-maine #ubuntu-louisiana #ubuntu-kentucky #ubuntu-kansas #ubuntu-iowa #ubuntu-indiana #ubuntu-chicago #ubuntu-idaho #ubuntu-hawaii #ubuntu-georgia #ubuntu-DC #ubuntu-delaware #ubuntu-connecticut #ubuntu-colorado #ubuntu-california #ubuntu-alaska #ubuntu-alabama #ubuntu-arkansas #ubuntuforums #ubuntu-arizona #ubuntu-ohio #ubuntu #ubuntu-f
[10:02] <gnurph> webmin requires a web server - not installed.  Lemme try the gtk based stuff at gadmintools
[10:02] <ElemonGW_> lorida #ubuntu-marketing #ubuntu-locoteams #ubuntu-us
[10:02] <ElemonGW_> xaxaxaxa
[10:02] <kmaynard> gnurph: webmin has its own web server built in
[10:03] <mneptok> ElemonGW_: stop that
[10:03] <jmesquita> Pelo: Any suggestions based on your experience?
[10:03] <obero1> yaustar: did you get your question answereed?
[10:03] <thavorn> !gxine
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <howlingmadhowie> cki: i dunno. the more i look at it, the more difficult it seems to become. it may be better to try it with ndiswrapper. but i've never used ndiswrapper myself
[10:03] <yaustar> MrObvious: I just tried modprobe ipw2200 and it says module not loaded
[10:03] <cki> ook
[10:03] <kmaynard> !webmin I gnurph
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webmin i gnurph - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <cki> ill try with the ndiswrapper
[10:03] <kmaynard> whoops
[10:03] <Pelo> jmesquita, I dont, realy have any experience,  I just remember seing a few things when i was lookign for a decent CAD prog,  ( didn'T find one)
[10:03] <kmaynard> !webmin | gnurph
[10:03] <ubotu> gnurph: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:03] <cki> i saw it uses Windows driver
[10:04] <MrObvious> yaustar: Try cat /var/log/syslog | grep ipw2200
[10:04] <cki> so ill get the original driver and ill try ;)
[10:04] <howlingmadhowie> cki: good luck :)
[10:04] <yaustar> I would have assumed that Ubuntu would have installed it for me (as it has previous times) but for same reason it didn't this time
[10:04] <jmesquita> Pelo: I know dia, but isnt enough for me
[10:04] <cki> howlingmadhowie thanks
[10:04] <ilia> hi there
[10:04] <jmesquita> Pelo: Would like to have some of the mac tools for linux nowadays
[10:04] <Pelo> jmesquita,  try out a few of the others  their free anyway
[10:04] <MrObvious> yaustar: You're on an thernet connection now right?
[10:04] <yaustar> MrObvious: Aug 10 01:29:19 yau-ulaptop NetworkManager: <information>^Ieth1: Device is fully-supported using driver 'ipw2200'.
[10:04] <yaustar> yes
[10:04] <gnurph> lol @ webmin.
[10:04] <kmaynard> i use it, warning or not
[10:05] <MrObvious> yaustar: Wow that's weird.
[10:05] <MrObvious> yaustar: Let me search the Ubuntu forums and see if I can find anything.
[10:05] <Pelo> jmesquita, try this if you have the patience,  look up one you know in  wikipedia,  look at the botom of the page if they have a link to other similar progs , often they have comparison charts
[10:05] <yaustar> MrObvious: Cheers
[10:05] <SysError> Pelo: its ntfs
[10:05] <MrObvious> yaustar: What chipset do you have?
[10:05] <ilia> how can i make ubuntu to auto connect to internet at boot?
[10:05] <Pelo> jmesquita,  and worst case scenario  you can run a windows one in wine
[10:06] <yaustar> MrObvious: 0000:01:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)
[10:06] <jmesquita> Pelo: Windows?? Arrrg! No, rather stick with dia. Visio stinks!
[10:06] <Pelo> SysError,   ubuntu does not write to ntfs by default, you need to instal a special program but I do not know if it react well with  usb ,  try it anyway
[10:06] <gnurph> hmm...gbindadmin is part of synaptic (you know, I tried this already.  I get an error running it.)
[10:06] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g | SysError
[10:06] <ubotu> SysError: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:08] <ilia> guys, i reaaly need help here, please...
[10:08] <MrObvious> yaustar: What is the output of the following 3 commands?
[10:08] <MrObvious> lshw -C network
[10:08] <MrObvious> iwlist scan
[10:08] <MrObvious> iwconfig
[10:08] <yaustar> ilia: What do you mean?
[10:08] <Pelo> ilia, and we need to know what you need help wtih
[10:08] <MrObvious> yaustar: Please post to a pastebin.
[10:08] <skinnypuppy1334> I can't see shared folders on an XP mach on the LAN from Fiesty, I can see the computer name, have smb installed, but get a message in the file browser couldnot display folder contents when I click to open the shared computer in network
[10:08] <MrObvious> !ask
[10:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:08] <ilia> cool, i repeat: how can i make ubuntu to auto connect to internet at boot?
[10:09] <Pelo> ilia,  what kind of connection ?
[10:09] <MrObvious> ilia: It should automatically.
[10:09] <ilia> lan
[10:09] <anchor_> ubuntus vim also  ignore "vim -u .vimrc FILENAME" ???
[10:09] <Pelo> ilia,  it shoudl connect automaticaly
[10:09] <ilia> i have to click the icon to connect
[10:09] <skinnypuppy1334> Worked fine with 6.10, and nothing has changed on the XP laptop. Any Ideas?
[10:09] <gnurph> pramz, when I try to fire gbindadmin, I get "failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory)
[10:09] <yaustar> MrObvious: I just ran lshw -C network and my display just went funny BRB, going to reboot
[10:09] <gnurph> pramz, and bind is installed (I believe.)
[10:10] <MrObvious> ilia: Odd.
[10:10] <pramz> gnurph, last I used it was a while back so
[10:10] <ilia> year...
[10:10] <Blauhaut> Hiya all
[10:10] <Pelo> ilia, very odd ,  I donT' knwo what to tell you , if noone else has an anser searchin the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:10] <gnurph> is there a better way to set up a DNS server?
[10:10] <ilia> been there, done that
[10:10] <MrObvious> skinnypuppy1334: I'm no expert of Samba but soemthing tells me to check the permissions on the Ubuntu computer.
[10:10] <ilia> thanks anyway
[10:10] <Pelo> ilia,  did you have to perform any command to setup the connection ?
[10:10] <skinnypuppy1334> Fiesty having problems browsing XP shares on lan, Ideas anyone??? Flawless under 6.10
[10:11] <Blauhaut> Guys while i am copying some  files from dvd-rom it usually says invalid unicode and gives me eneric error and also aks me for skip or cancel the copy
[10:11] <ilia> no
[10:11] <pramz> gnurph, check the docs on that app, you might have to run it as root
[10:11] <Blauhaut> what should i do ? pls help
[10:11] <Pelo> ilia,  hold on
[10:11] <rrittenhouse> I have built a new system and the motherboard is an Intel DG33FB. I am using a 750GB Sata drive with Ubuntu installed on it (with grub as the boot loader) and for some odd reason the computer cannot boot off of the SATA drive
[10:11] <MrObvious> ilia: There is a way to make command run on boot. I can't remember which command it is to turn on the network.
[10:11] <pramz> gnurph, since it might be checking for a way to get root access (which you will need to edit files in /var/named )
[10:11] <rrittenhouse> If i boot off of a CD first and tell it to use the first HD itll work.. whats up with that? :)
[10:11] <skinnypuppy1334> MrObvious, I'll look at permissions , the ubuntu is having probs browsing to XP.
[10:12] <Blauhaut> Guys while i am copying some mp3 files from dvd-rom it usually says invalid unicode and gives me eneric error and also aks me for skip or cancel the copy
[10:12] <MrObvious> ilia: Do you use the gnome network manager to connect? There is an option somewhere I think to turn it on automatically.
[10:12] <khelll_> i want to download the proper file for ubuntu , from this url, which one should i chose?
[10:12] <Blauhaut> what cna i do ?
[10:12] <titleb> mpswd
[10:12] <uuesley> anyone here have any experience getting 7.04 to run on a compaq 6910p?
[10:12] <jmesquita> Broken package: Skencil
[10:12] <jmesquita> apt-get install skencil and skencil get seg faulted
[10:12] <MrObvious> rrittenhouse: Have you tried reinstalling grub?
[10:12] <amrcidiot> guys, i need help w. step number six in this tutorial.... how do i do this in the terminal since i don't have write access to the folder. this link is.:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302570
[10:12] <Pelo> ilia,   try this,  menu > system > admin > network    select the connection,  clck on propeties,  and check atifivate this conneciton ,
[10:13] <skinnypuppy1334> I am using Places, Network, it shows the workgroup name, browse there and see the machine names, but can't view the shared folders
[10:13] <|Lunar_Lamp|> Hmm, nspluginviewer is maxing out my cpu - what could be causing this?
[10:13] <khelll_> i want to download the proper file for ubuntu , from this url http://www.princexml.com/download/ , which one should i chose?
[10:13] <ilia> yes i use the network manager
[10:13] <MrObvious> amrcidiot: Use sudo.
[10:13] <amrcidiot> but what commands?
[10:13] <palintheus> khelll_, the .deb
[10:14] <Pelo> skinnypuppy1334, I think you need to mount the shared folders in samba or something,  not realy sure I'm just trying to remember what I 've see other ppl talk about
[10:14] <amrcidiot> i need to extract it in the folder.... how do i do it?
[10:14] <khelll_> and how to run it?
[10:14] <Pelo> amrcidiot,  just extract it and then move it
[10:14] <yaustar> MrObvious: http://rafb.net/p/YY0Nqo28.html
[10:14] <Bernz> hey does anyone know how to setup wireless nic
[10:14] <palintheus> khelll_, double click
[10:14] <khelll_> lol
[10:15] <khelll_> thanks, am newbie to linux......
[10:15] <ilia> Pelo: done this
[10:15] <skinnypuppy1334> I remember mapping through saamba a long time ago, 6.10 ubu just browsed there effortlessly
[10:15] <Pelo> Bernz, wireless mic maybe ?  search your model in the forum for info
[10:15] <palintheus> khelll_, we all were once
[10:15] <zitner> Hello, um, can someone help me with my sound?  It works great, but when I play a game, it's crackely.
[10:15] <gnurph> pramz, just reinstalled gbindadmin just in case - and there is no /var/named
[10:15] <Pelo> ilia, that,s all I have
[10:15] <amrcidiot> i extracted it, but when i went to move it, it says i don't have acces to write to it
[10:15] <ilia> :(
[10:15] <Bernz> i have belkin w/ broadcom chipset
[10:16] <Pelo> amrcidiot, move it iwth the command likne,   sudo mv /source /target
[10:16] <MrObvious> amrcidiot: sudo tar xzvf (tarname) /opt/.............
[10:16] <MrObvious> yaustar: Okay.
[10:16] <amrcidiot> thanks
[10:16] <amrcidiot> i'll try those
[10:16] <MrObvious> YW.
[10:16] <Blauhaut> http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9669/screenshotkm9.png anybody help *-
[10:16] <Blauhaut> ?
[10:16] <MrObvious> Remember for root access use sudo.
[10:16] <pramz> gnurph, find out where your bind files are stored and then point gbindadmin to that, there should be a howto for it on that site
[10:16] <Pelo> Blauhaut,  what is the issue that goes iwith that screenshot ?
[10:16] <amrcidiot> i know sudo
[10:16] <Blauhaut> Pelo; sure
[10:17] <amrcidiot> just didn't know how to move
[10:17] <gnurph> I have no frickin' idea how to do that...but I'll try.
[10:17] <MrObvious> yaustar: Is there a switch to turn wireless on? Most laptops I know of have a Function Key + something.
[10:17] <sal> d
[10:17] <yaustar> MrObvious: Its on
[10:18] <Pelo> Blauhaut, you are moving from where to where ?
[10:18] <Blauhaut> Pelo; Dvd rom to my external HDD
[10:18] <Pelo> Blauhaut, wht is the file system of the externatl hdd ?
[10:18] <titleb> whats the command to uninstall ?
[10:18] <MrObvious> yaustar: Hmm. Try sudo rmmod ipw2200 && sudo modprobe ipw2200 and see if that helps.
[10:18] <Blauhaut> Pelo; ntfs
[10:18] <Pelo> titleb,  sudo apt-get remove packagename
[10:19] <binary_blob> hi all, when i enter "users" it shows my username 3 times.  any idea how to get rid of the 2 other usernames, or what would have caused this?
[10:19] <titleb> Pelo, thk u
[10:19] <MrObvious> yaustar: Something is weird.
[10:19] <Pelo> Blauhaut, ubuntu does not write to ntfs by default you need to install the write support
[10:19] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g  | Blauhaut
[10:19] <ubotu> Blauhaut: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:19] <Blauhaut> Pelo; i have that package ntfs-3g
[10:19] <yaustar> MrObvious: http://rafb.net/p/lYMRYu95.html
[10:19] <stefan__> hey
[10:19] <Blauhaut> Pelo; sometimes it wrote some file but some not
[10:19] <MrObvious> yaustar: If you want some reading then you might try this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=513371&highlight=intel+2200BG
[10:20] <Pelo> Blauhaut,  then you need ot apply it to that usb drive,
[10:20] <Blauhaut> Pelo; my actual pproblem i can see the characters completely on my dvd rom
[10:20] <Pelo> Blauhaut, possilby you need to restart the computer with the usb hdd plugged in
[10:20] <SysError> hrrmm
[10:20] <Gh0st> Ok. I'm going to attempt partitioning for dual-boot again; anyone mind walking me through it?
[10:20] <SysError> i think my flash drive is corrupted >.<
[10:20] <howlingmadhowie> binary_blob: you're probably logged on 3 times. try "last"
[10:20] <MrObvious> yaustar: I wonder if Linux installed the module.
[10:20] <yaustar> MrObvious: The part that grates is that it worked before on a previous install of the same version out of the box :/
[10:20] <skinnypuppy1334> MrObvious, do you have a suggestion as to what permissions would need to be changed to browse to windows?
[10:20] <Blauhaut> Pelo; ic what about my missing characters on filenames ?
[10:20] <Pelo> Blauhaut, you'll have to rephrase that
[10:20] <SysError> it get random characters when i do an ls on one of the directories
[10:21] <Pelo> Blauhaut,  no idea
[10:21] <Blauhaut> what you mean by rephrase ? rename ?
[10:21] <anchor_> ok, my vimrc are not readed becouse vim-tiny was installed (default by ubuntu-minimal?) with the normal vim it works
[10:21] <MrObvious> yaustar: Try apt-cache search ipw2200 and give me the output.
[10:21] <Pelo> Blauhaut, I didntget your original statement about the missing characters
[10:21] <yaustar> MrObvious: Screengrab of Network Settings: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=63ajgqq
[10:21] <MrObvious> yaustar: I'm at work on a Winblows PC so I can't reference things myself.
[10:21] <Blauhaut> Pelo; let me upload some screenshot
[10:21] <Blauhaut> :)
[10:21] <Pelo> Blauhaut, don'T
[10:22] <Pelo> Blauhaut,  are you capable of copying those same files to your desktop for exemple ?
[10:22] <yaustar> MrObvious: http://rafb.net/p/EDMl7j84.html
[10:22] <Blauhaut> yes i can copy file to my home
[10:22] <Blauhaut> Pelo;  yes
[10:22] <binary_blob> howlingmadhowie: you're right.  i'm logged in under pts/0, tty3, and tty1.  any idea how to get rid of the other ones?
[10:22] <skinnypuppy1334> Who's got Fiesty and XP filesharing working and what hoops did you have to jump through? I can see the windows machine on the lan, but upon clicking on its name no shares but an error message couldnot display folder contents
[10:22] <Pelo> Blauhaut,  then the other problem is the ntfs write support,   as for the missing caracters, no idea,  check the forum
[10:23] <gnurph> pramz, I've got zero in trying to find this.  Synaptic says bind is installed, there is no folder /var/named - maybe the daemon isn't running?
[10:23] <MrObvious> yaustar: Crud I forget which package the driver would be. Apparently it's not on your system. Let's verify that. Do cd / && find | grep ipw2200
[10:23] <Quilby> how do i install a .rpm
[10:23] <Quilby> ?
[10:23] <Pelo> skinnypuppy1334,  have you tried the forum ?
[10:23] <gnurph> and the gadmintools web site isn't too hot with help.
[10:23] <stefan__> ive got a question. i use ubuntu 7.04 on amd64 (32bit), a ati800gto and firefox and the ubuntu-flash-package for firefox. i think maybe flash could be part of the problem: some site just crash my system, yahoo.com does for example oder video.google sometimes. the funny thing: if it crashes, it crashes so badly, that even the numlock-key doesnt work any more, but a running ftp-download(via gftp) still works and finishes. the scre
[10:23] <stefan__> en freezes, but i still move the mouse-cursor
[10:24] <stefan__> any ideas
[10:24] <stefan__> ?
[10:24] <MrObvious> Quilby: Run a RPM based distro. It doesn't work on Ubuntu. Which package is it?
[10:24] <Pelo> Quilby, rpm are for  redhat , ubunjtu uses .deb or bin or the source try to find one of those
[10:24] <howlingmadhowie> binary_blob: you can logout on the ttyX by going to ctrl-alt-fX and typing exit.
[10:24] <skinnypuppy1334> I've seen a lot on the forum.... never quite the right thing though
[10:24] <Quilby> i wanna install the nmap gui
[10:24] <Quilby> is there an ubuntu package for it
[10:24] <Quilby> ?
[10:24] <stdin> Quilby: nmapfe
[10:24] <Pelo> stefan__, flash is tricky for sme ppl not much you can do about it
[10:24] <MrObvious> Quilby: If ther eis do apt-cache search nmap
[10:25] <Pelo> Quilby,  look in synaptic,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[10:25] <MrObvious> Quilby: Or I guess stdin has the answer. Do sudo apt-get install nmapfe
[10:25] <Quilby> ok thanks guys!!!
[10:25] <MrObvious> yaustar: Did you post something? Or am I still waiting?
[10:25] <Jette> Hello, every one. I have a question about making a recovery media of my Ubuntu system here
[10:25] <stefan__> Pelo: "tricky for some people"? you mean the admins of the sites or what?
[10:26] <{Malice}> Besides getdeb does anyone else know of a good url to get games?
[10:26] <MrObvious> !ask | stefan__
[10:26] <ubotu> stefan__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:26] <yaustar> MrObvious: http://rafb.net/p/Y9Cpmy76.html
[10:26] <pramz> gnurph, check /etc/named
[10:26] <stefan__> MrObvious: i did
[10:26] <MrObvious> yaustar: Well crud my theory was blown out of the window. I really don't know. Just try asking your question again or go to the Ubuntu Forums and make a post.
[10:26] <Pelo> stefan__,  no I mean for users,  for most ppl it works fine, for some it causes no end of problems,  for me it occasionnaly freezes my whole comp if i exitthe page in the middle of a video
[10:27] <gnurph> pramz, no such folder.
[10:27] <binary_blob> howlingmadhowie: worked like a charm.  thank you.
[10:27] <MrObvious> stefan__: Whoops wrong person.
[10:27] <Jette> How can I make a Ubuntu recovery media with my configuration just like windows
[10:27] <MrObvious> !ask | Jette
[10:27] <ubotu> Jette: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:28] <stefan__> Pelo: mhrm.. so if it works for some people, then the problem ist may on the videocard-driver's side or something..
[10:28] <zitner> Um, does anyone have knowledge of sound card issues in Ubuntu?
[10:28] <stefan__> zitner: more specific?
[10:28] <yaustar> To the floor: I have just installed Ubuntu 6.06 and it hasn't picked up my wireless in Network settings although lspci has it listed and it working on previous installations of the same version of Ubuntu. Any ideas
[10:28] <zitner> Stefan: It works great, but when I play a game, it's crackely.
[10:29] <Adlai> connect
[10:29] <MrObvious> yaustar: Your kernel is 2.6.15-26-386 right?
[10:30] <stefan__> zitner: i dont play games except zsnes-stuff, but same problem there :P sorry i cant help
[10:30] <yaustar> MrObvious: No, I upgraded to 2.6.22.1
[10:30] <Obsidian> how do i go about restoring the default samba config files
[10:30] <MrObvious> yaustar: Ah ha!
[10:30] <yaustar> MrObvious: Ah ha?
[10:30] <MrObvious> yaustar: See the old kernel has the driver, but not the new kernel.
[10:30] <MrObvious> yaustar: You compiled it right?
[10:30] <yaustar> bullocks
[10:30] <yaustar> yep
[10:30] <gnurph> pramz, other ideas?
[10:30] <MrObvious> Voila!
[10:31] <MrObvious> yaustar: You'll have to get the source and compile the driver yourself.
[10:31] <yaustar> That would explain a few things...
[10:31] <yaustar> MrObvious: Do I need to recompile the kernel?
[10:31] <MrObvious> yaustar: See I've never compiled a kernel. I wouldn't think so.
[10:31] <neverblue> get out
[10:31] <MrObvious> neverblue: What are you talking about?
[10:31] <networkgamer> can someone help me with ps3 ubuntu?
[10:32] <neverblue> MrObvious, you took my nick
[10:32] <MrObvious> !ask | neverblue
[10:32] <ubotu> neverblue: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)