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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Kubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.kubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs!https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please. | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Riddell at Sat Aug 4 17:44:53 2007
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whysohi! im installing java and stuck on Configuring sun-java6-bin, it is text on a blue screen which an OK but now way to click it, help?07:19
drkfcepress tab07:19
whysoah thanx07:19
whysoalso how do i get 1680x1050 resolution? its my monitors native07:20
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robotgeek!resolution07:20
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:20
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adeniciohi i install testdisk i want to know how to run it because im not seing it in K menu07:25
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adeniciohi i install testdisk i want to know how to run it because im not seing it in K menu07:28
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adenicio!xubuntu07:29
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels07:29
drkfceI would like to edit a configuration file with a script, specifically "interfaces" within /etc/network.  Can anyone lead me to a site that would help me find out how to do that?07:29
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robotgeekdrkfce: have you take a look at "man 5 interfaces"07:33
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adeniciohi i install testdisk i want to know how to run it because im not seing it in K menu07:33
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robotgeekadenicio: i think it is a command line utility, so you cannot run it from the K-Menu.07:34
robotgeekadenicio: you need to start it from a konsole07:34
adeniciook07:35
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adeniciorobotgeek: do u know the extention of the programmes for linux?for me to put them on the desktop?(ex:for windows its .exe)i want to put like vlc on my desktop07:39
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robotgeekadenicio: once you install it using adept, you can just launch it from the K-Menu07:41
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hydrogenif you right click it in k-menu you can add it to your desktop07:44
adeniciorobotgeek: but i like my way of to open a video i does drag and drop on programmes.at least if u can give me the names of the extention of programmes.07:44
adeniciohydrogen: ok07:45
robotgeekadenicio: should just work that way07:45
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robotgeekadenicio: you dont need to have an extension, that is automagic in Linux07:45
adeniciohydrogen: ok i love it i can live for ever on linux07:46
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adenicio:)07:46
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adeniciorobotgeek: i just wanted to know the names for linux.do u know how to keep a window in detail?so i dont have to be pressin detail all the time i surf in my hdd's07:51
robotgeekadenicio: i dont understand07:52
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sunshine125do you mean so you can see file properties while you browse files ?07:53
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adeniciorobotgeek: the view mode07:54
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adeniciosunshine125: yes detail07:55
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adenicios07:55
gobanhi, i just installed and its great but it doesnt detect my resolution of 1680 1050 how do i fix?07:55
robotgeekadenicio: Konqueror -> View -> View Mode -> Detailed07:56
robotgeekadenicio: Settings -> Save View Profile "Whatever"07:57
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adeniciorobotgeek: ok tanks thats much beter :)08:01
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robotgeekadenicio: cool08:02
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Daisuke_Ido!resolution | goban08:03
ubotugoban: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:03
sunshine125im new to linux to but just an idea... you might be able to get ati or nvidia files somehow08:04
adeniciorobotgeek: is there another msn server than kotepe or amsn?kotepe keep giving me errors "unable to lookup messenger.hot.com08:04
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WaltzingAlongadenicio: messenger.hotmail.com ?08:05
robotgeekadenicio: if kopete doesn't work, i don't know what works08:05
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adeniciorobotgeek: and amsn takin a year to log in08:06
robotgeekheh08:07
adeniciorobotgeek: ok08:07
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adeniciorobotgeek: do amerok plays video's?if yes what do i have to install for it to play them?because i want to play one after the next08:08
m0u5ei can't get into kubuntu :X08:08
m0u5eerr *ubuntu :X08:08
robotgeekadenicio: kaffeine does play videos, not amarok08:08
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whyso!resolution told me to do the xorg reconfigure and i did, and selected 1680x1050 but still its not even an option :( i wonder y08:09
Daisuke_Idoif you selected it08:12
Daisuke_Idoyou'll need to restart x08:12
adeniciorobotgeek: how do i get it to play one after the next?i dont want to be goin in the file to select a video everytime08:12
robotgeekadenicio: add to playlist08:12
Daisuke_Idoor just select the ones you want, right-click, and open with kaffeine08:13
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adeniciorobotgeek: ok08:18
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adeniciorobotgeek: how to change the mouse from one clic?08:21
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robotgeekadenicio: check in Mouse under system settings08:21
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sunshine125where can i find main additions to tribe 4 kubuntu ?08:23
adeniciorobotgeek: i dont see mouse.just net set,desktop,sound sys etc...08:24
whysohmm this will sound really stupid but the screen looks sort of "fuzzy"08:24
robotgeekadenicio: keyboard and mouse08:24
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adeniciook08:25
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vsudilovanyone know how to map pressing the middle mouse button to run an application?08:27
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helpjeff_hello08:29
helpjeff_i find driver for lexmark z73508:30
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helpjeff_openpriniting write z730 work properly with generic postscript08:30
helpjeff_but not z73508:30
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helpjeff_thank you08:38
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godstormmm08:40
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godstormis any one here?08:40
godstormknows about Ubuntu?08:40
angel_hola08:40
angel_hay alguien08:40
angel_yes08:40
adeniciorobotgeek: do viruses exist for feisty?because i just download amule and i want to download so stuf.if it does have V to mess up the sys wich antivirus is best that can install from adep?08:40
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godstormokok08:41
godstormoki need help08:41
godstormokwith DNS Hosting08:41
robotgeekadenicio: no need for anti virus08:41
godstormokor a Hosting Server08:41
angel_what is your problem???08:41
godstormoki want to Hosting my Own DNS like .com or .net08:41
godstormokand a IRC server to and a Web site08:41
angel_OK08:42
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godstormcan you help me?08:42
whysomplayer says error in initializing the selected video output device help?08:42
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adeniciorobotgeek: there are no viruses that crash linux then cool :).but is there something that can stop unwanted predator from trying  to take control of my pc?someone told me i have i tink a port open thats why people are getting in trying to conect to my pc and control it08:44
angel_.com or .net in the site register.com08:44
godstormok08:44
godstormbut08:44
robotgeekadenicio: sure, people can get access to your PC08:44
godstormi am with iut paying08:44
godstormit*08:44
godstormdam08:44
godstormmm08:44
godstormok08:44
godstormi need one for a DNS free .com hosting08:44
angel_may be too register.net08:45
godstormoff the Linuxs08:45
adeniciorobotgeek: but dont they need a passw?08:45
godstormyou need pay for it08:45
angel_yes08:45
godstormi need a Free DNS08:45
godstormtho08:45
robotgeekadenicio: no, if there is a vulnerability, they don't need a password. it should be okay though08:45
godstormto hosting my own server08:45
WaltzingAlonggodstorm: so no-ip.com or dyndns.org ?08:45
robotgeekgodstorm: try dyndns.com or no-ip.com08:45
angel_im from Argentina and in this country im pay for one site .com or .net08:46
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Assidheya08:46
godstormthos don't work08:46
Assidokay.. what would be better on a kubuntu/linux desktop?08:46
godstormi try it08:46
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Assidmore cores? faster processors?08:46
godstormyes Assid08:46
Assidgodstorm: ?08:46
godstormmore cpu more Fast you can go08:46
Assidmore cores  OR faster processors?08:47
angel_the dinamic dns not permit register domain absolute08:47
Assidbasically 3ghz c2d or 2.4ghz c2q08:47
godstormfast Processors08:47
godstormyes assid08:47
adeniciorobotgeek: no its not ok because when it pops up they keep asking me if i would let them control my keyboard and mouse.if by mistak i press yes.i have also my hdd xp conected they can drop any unwanted files :(08:47
Assiddude08:47
Assidyou arent making sense08:47
angel_only dnsdyn.??????.com08:47
Assidi asked what would be better08:47
godstormlike08:47
godstormmm08:48
Assidits an option08:48
Assidi know faster and more = better08:48
robotgeekadenicio: on linux? i doubt it08:48
godstormlike this my.com08:48
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godstormfor a exp08:48
godstormit with paying08:48
godstormtho08:48
robotgeekgodstorm: you need to pay for domain08:48
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robotgeekgodstorm: you might also need to pay for hosting08:48
godstormto host my own server on Linuxs?08:48
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adeniciorobotgeek: ok but if i say yes will they control my mouse?08:48
adeniciorobotgeek: for real?08:48
godstormlol08:48
angel_yes .com or .net = $$$$08:49
robotgeekadenicio: not sure what you are talking about, sorry. i have not used it, sorry08:49
adeniciorobotgeek: ok08:49
angel_people im going  to sleep. Arribederchi08:49
godstormok08:50
godstormangel_:08:50
godstormty08:50
angel_yes????08:50
godstormi said ty08:50
godstormlol08:50
godstormnn hun08:50
angel_ty man08:50
angel_What is ty????08:50
Daisuke_Ido"thank you"08:51
Daisuke_Idooi08:51
luckyone_thank you08:51
luckyone_anyone in here know about PHP caching?08:51
angel_OK.....to welcome??????08:51
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Assidluckyone_: try eaccelerator08:52
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greg_!flash08:59
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash08:59
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killroy_2I'm running kubuntu feisty and fo some reason although I can burn a dvd, my system won't read them - they simply show up as blank.  Any ideais?09:20
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hangthedjwhat burner program are you using?09:25
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Lynourehangthedj: who? or anyone?09:25
Lynourehangthedj: Just plain old k3b09:26
hangthedji'm not sure, i'm on my server so i have no scroll back.09:26
hangthedjdidn't somebody say they can't read they're burned dvds?09:26
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vzduchkillroy_2 was spoken to09:28
vzduch[09:20:52]  < killroy_2> I'm running kubuntu feisty and fo some reason although I can burn a dvd, my system won't read them - they simply show up as blank.  Any ideais?09:29
vzduchmornin'09:29
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aruni have java runtime environment installed, but websites dont appear correctly in my firefox09:30
arunit says 'additional plugins required'09:30
vzduchhow did you install?  and what exactly?09:30
arunsun java09:31
pagarun, sun-java6-plugin  maybe?09:31
daleachhey guys when my system did one of the periodic disk checks at startup ...I noticed some crazy swap partition error I forgot exactly what it said but something like it couldn't read it.. can I pull up a log of that message?  Also when I do 'free' I get for the swap: 0 0 0 (!?!?)09:31
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aruni dont have the plugin installed.. i have sun-java6 and sun-java6-jre09:31
Lynourekillroy_2: have you tried if some other system would show them?09:31
arunthanks pag09:32
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killroy_2hangthedj: makedvd09:32
daleachyou have to link09:32
daleachto the jre09:32
killroy_2I think my burner is whacked09:32
daleachin a firefox directory09:32
daleachI think that's how I did it09:32
hangthedjkillroy_2: are you trying to burn movies, or trying to convert avi's or mpegs to dvd?09:33
killroy_2I can read some CD's and DVD (commerial ones) and not those burned on other burners.  And when I burn a dvd it won't play on my machine nor my dvd player, but the exact same files burn and play on another machine09:33
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Lynourekillroy_2: usually, in that case you get an error of some kind, So it does not hurt to try. Bought dvds show fine?09:33
arundaleach: how exactly09:33
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daleacharun looking it up09:33
killroy_2I've converted a PAL video to NTSC09:33
daleachone sec09:33
killroy_2with tovid09:33
vzduchI think it was /usr/share/mozilla/plugins/09:33
killroy_2and burned it on a different machine.  the dvd plays brilliantly in dvd player09:34
killroy_2but a dvd with source files burned on that machine doesn't even read on mine09:34
killroy_2and though mined doesn't generate any errors, the resulting dvd when I do burn is unplayable...09:34
killroy_2ergo I think my burner is whacked09:34
daleachlibjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/local/jdk1.6.0_01/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so*09:35
hangthedjunplayable = blank?09:35
daleachis what i get when I do an ls09:35
daleachthat file is in09:35
daleachmy09:35
daleach~/.mozilla/plugins09:36
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killroy_2hangthedj: yeah, my machine mounts the disc and reports blank09:36
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hangthedjkillroy_2: and you have libdvdcss2 installed?09:37
killroy_2hangthedj: but you can clearly see it's been burned.. and the dvd player retuns a "disc dirty" error... whateve that is.  It's ain't dirty09:37
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killroy_2hangthedj: think do09:37
killroy_2hangthedj: pretty sure... checking09:37
killroy_2hangthedj: yep, installed...09:38
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killroy_2pretty sure it's the drive.  If I can't read a data dvd burned on another machine, it's likely the drive09:39
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hangthedjkillroy_2: i'm not sure, i haven't had many problems with dvd burners, so i don't have much experience in fixing them :/09:39
daleachoh09:39
daleachit looks like you can do09:39
daleachthe link to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins also09:39
daleachI guess09:39
killroy_2hangthedj: I think I just needed to bounce the ideas out of my head.  I think I already new the problem.  I'll just go buy me a replacement.09:39
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daleacharun you there?09:40
daleachsudo ln -s <jrelocation> <firefoxpluginlocation>09:41
daleachanyone know about my swap disk issue09:42
daleachwhat kinds of numbers do you guys get when you run "free" (for swap)09:42
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vzduchexec -o free09:42
vzduchfsck09:43
vzduch             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached09:43
vzduchMem:        775632     767624       8008          0     167432     36152809:43
vzduch-/+ buffers/cache:     238664     53696809:43
vzduchSwap:      1574360     175480    139888009:43
daleachsee yeah i get 0's for the last 309:43
daleachhah09:43
daleachthat's BAD right?09:43
vzduchI guess so09:43
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daleachwhat is that exec thing btw?09:44
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keh7dhi can anyone help me figure out why i can't set my reso. higher than 1024x768? please?09:46
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adeniciorobotgeek: konkeror keep saying Unknown host www.google.com.why?does it do that when u are downloading with adept?i dont have dsl just dial up09:48
pagadenicio, does ping work?  (  ping google.com  )09:48
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adeniciopag:??? how do, i ping google?09:51
keh7dis 1024x768 the highest resolutions supported on kubuntu?09:51
adenicioand where?09:51
pagadenicio, I gave you the command... open konsole and type: ping google.com09:51
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pagadenicio, see if it works and stop it with ctrl+c after ~20 seconds09:52
adeniciokeh7d: why do u want to go hygher?is your eyes to small?:-D09:52
pagkeh7d, I use 1280x1024 just fine...09:52
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keh7dyes my eyes are very small...09:54
pagkeh7d, see if resolution you want is enabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:54
adeniciopag: ping: unknown host google.com09:54
keh7dpag -- thnx for the tip i'll check it out09:55
pagadenicio, but you still are able to be on irc? or are you using a different computer?09:55
adeniciopag: in the place of ping do i have to put numbers?09:56
keh7dahh, it has the wrong monitor listed. do i need to manually edit the xorg.conf? auto-detect somehow?09:56
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daleachkeh7d you should definitely try to google your monitor make and number with ubuntu09:57
daleachdon't worry about kubuntu specifically09:57
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pagkeh7d, if it already has autodetected it wrong, it probably wont help autodetecting it again... just edit it manually  (or pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ) it and I can  take a look at it)09:57
daleachwidescreen or regular ? (regular is easier)09:57
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adeniciopag: the first time i conect to the net on linux it was the same prob but i could of still chat on konversation but couldnt surf.i created a new account to see and it work.now all wa happen i was watch cartoon on kafein and adept crash,itry to surf to look for something it give me an error09:59
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pag!aptfix | adenicio09:59
ubotuadenicio: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:59
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chovyhow come my screen saver never activates?09:59
adeniciopag: now adept giving me errors too10:00
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keh7dpag -- i pasted it under "keh7d"10:00
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keh7dseems strange that my xorg.conf is diff. than what it lists under system settings10:01
pagkeh7d, you need to give link to your paste, otherwise it's (almost?) impossible to find10:01
keh7dhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33311/10:01
adeniciopag: it kill my downloads :(10:01
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pagkeh7d, well... the highes reso defined is 1024x768.. which reso are you trying to achieve?10:02
adeniciopag: does ares or limewire existe for linux?10:02
pag!limewire | adenicio10:03
ubotuadenicio: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.10:03
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keh7dpag-- under section "screen" doesnt it have a mode listed as 1280x960?10:04
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adeniciopag: and ares wich i like best10:05
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pagkeh7d, oh.. sorry, didn't notice at first.10:05
pagadenicio, hmm.. I never heard of that programm :-/10:05
bullgard4Synaptic writes: "The kexi package is part of the KDE Office Suite." I am going to stay with my OO.o Office. When installing kexi, would I have to install a lot of general-purpose KDE program packages also?10:05
adeniciopag: ok10:06
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keh7dpag -- note that it says "COMPAQ 910" and the modelname as "Dell E153FP"10:06
keh7dnot right i think.10:06
pagkeh7d, I'm not too familiar with widescreen resolutions... maybe you need nvidia closed drivers?10:06
keh7ddoes "closed" mean drivers that are distributed with the product?10:06
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pagkeh7d, closed as in not open source. iow. Nvidias 'official' drivers10:07
pag!nvidia | keh7d10:07
ubotukeh7d: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:07
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keh7dpag, ubotu -- thnx i'll giv it a try.10:07
adeniciopag: when u download a prog it does be in the k menu right but if its not there u have to run it in a konsole?if yes how?by ritten the name?10:08
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kasinahi10:08
pagadenicio, yup... it's usually just the name of the programm in lowercase... ie. firefox / kcontrol ...10:09
chovydoes anyone know how to enable screensaver?10:09
fsbenap1it should be by its name. Look at package files and look for files in /bin, or /usr/bin directories10:09
pagfsbenap1, " which packagename " is easier ;)10:09
kasinaI want to open some port on my Kubuntu but have no idea how to go about it. Anyone help please10:09
fsbenap1I think by default all ports are open. You should take a look at iptables.10:11
fsbenap1Or you can use some graphical frontend like Guarddog or something10:11
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KartiHi all, wonder if someone could have a look at this crontab error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33314/ When I run the script and test it outside the cron it works fine, but when I run it as a cron job, it appears to only copy across part of the tar file. Many thanks10:11
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DaxanaHi.. I learnt manual installation of a.deb10:12
pagKarti, do not use shortcuts like ~10:12
Kartipag: thanks will try that10:12
adeniciopag: wa is ie.?10:12
pagadenicio, in example  (I think...)10:13
Daxanabut after put command sudo dpkg -i (files) I don't know what's to do ? Anyone can help10:13
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adeniciopag: lol ok if u say so10:14
pagDaxana, well.. it usually starts installing and tells you when its done..10:14
DaxanaPag: So what's I do is wait ?10:14
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pagadenicio, in fact it means "id est" = " "That is (to say)", "in other words", or sometimes "in this case" "  (Wikipedia rocks :)10:15
pagDaxana, probably... iirc dpkg outputs commants about it's progress...10:15
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Daxanapag : It said " unpackaging (files)" and "setting ..(files). Nothing happened10:16
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adeniciopag: lol ok.i install doscan run in a konsole it say:"doscan: mandatory --port argument is missing"10:16
Kartipag: Sorry that made no difference10:16
pagDaxana, is it still loading, or did it put you back to username@host thingy?10:17
DaxanaPag: No. it is done loading.10:18
adeniciopag: wat does it mean and where can i get watever is missin10:18
adenicio?10:18
pagadenicio, dunno - I'm not familiar with that programm10:19
adeniciook10:19
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adenicio!ntfs10:19
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:19
pagDaxana, then it should be ready... try sudo apt-get -f install   to see if you have all depencies handled, and you should be fine10:19
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Daxanapag : filex ext is a.deb. Should i put all name again -f.deb ??10:21
adeniciopag: i install ntfs-3g n fuse to rite on my xp partition etc but how do i use it?i cant get true to rite on the ntfs partition etc10:21
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pagDaxana, no. just the part I gave you.. no extra arguments needed10:21
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pagadenicio, edit your fstab file to use ntfs-3g driver instead of plain ntfs10:22
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Daxanapag : the name is opera_9.22-2007071.5-share-qt_en_i386.deb10:25
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pagDaxana, do you have opera in your menus? (or does it launch from console?)10:26
pagDaxana, the programm I mean10:26
adeniciopag: fstab?10:26
pagadenicio, thi file... /etc/fstab   it can be edited with sudo vim /etc/fstab10:27
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pagadenicio, ermm.. make that command kdesu kate /etc/fstab  instead10:27
Daxanapag:Thank you, yes it is there on a menu.10:27
pagDaxana, if it launches fine, then your installation is done :)10:28
adeniciopag: and wat do i have to do to rite on the ntfs partion.where do i modifier on the kdesu kate /etc/fstab file?10:29
pagadenicio, jut replace ntfs with ntfs-3g10:29
DaxanaPag: wow..it cool. i start like using apt :).10:29
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adeniciopag: ok done that.i try putin a file to my xp partition it says coulld not write to it10:35
pagadenicio, remount the partition first10:35
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pagadenicio, sudo umount /media/YourWindows && sudo mount -a10:35
vzduchputin? o010:36
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vzduchUUID=60684C8E684C653E /media/winxp    ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=de_DE.utf8       0       010:37
vzduchhm?  I thought I had some uid and gid settings there..10:37
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keh7dhow do I close my "X" session? won't i not have access to the terminal?10:38
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vzduchkeh7d: ?10:43
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adeniciopag: wooptydoo it work :-D .i had to open a root konsole and type"mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /media/partion name -o force10:44
adeniciopag: to mount it back10:44
adeniciopag tanks10:44
pagnp :)10:44
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arunI have four logical drives on my computer. One of them (40GB) has Windows XP installed on it, the second is a 40GB NTFS drive to store files, the third is a FAT32 partition to share files between my Windows and Kubuntu, and the fourth is a 51GB partition with Kubuntu installed. I want to delete the 40GB NTFS storage partition, and extend my Kubuntu partition to 90GB. I am thinking of doing this using GParted. What would be the best way to go about10:46
arunthis?10:46
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arunanyone?10:47
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keh7dvzduch -- sry. i guess i meant x server10:47
logixoulHi. When I yank out the network cable http://localhost (apache2) is still accessible, but ONLY with non-kde apps (wget, firefox...). Any pointers much appreciated.10:47
pagarun, drives (as in HD's) or do you mean partitions?10:47
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arunlogical drives10:47
arunpartitions10:47
vistakillerkeh7d why you want to do this?10:48
keh7dwell i need to close it before i can install a nvidia driver apparently. are there ways around?10:49
pagarun, so you want to remove second and extend fourth without touching the one between them?10:49
vistakillertry the envy script10:49
vistakilleris much easier10:49
pag!envy10:49
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!10:49
arunpag: yes.. remove second and extend fourth without touching the windows partition or the one between them. i also dont want to mess grub up.10:49
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vistakilleri have use it many times whithout prob10:50
vzducharun: back up what you have on the 2nd NTFS partition, then grab a live CD, delete the partition and add the space to your Kubuntu partition (if that works; if not, you'll need to reinstall), edit your Kubuntu's fstab and, if need be, /boot/grub/menu.lst & be happy :)10:50
adeniciopag: arun lol why do i have a felin somethings might go wrong?10:50
adenicio:-/10:50
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vistakillerhttp://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html10:50
keh7dok...it doesn't seem to hard to just close down x server and then run the nvidia shell script10:50
pagkeh7d, why are you running nvidias script?10:51
keh7dsry. the installer10:51
arunvzduch: does it usually work? is there a chance extending the partition could go wrong?10:51
pagkeh7d, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx10:51
vzducharun: as pag pointed out, the fact that the partitions are not behind each other could be a problem10:52
vzduchI don't know if that's possible10:52
keh7dpag -- interesting, its doing something. what's it doing again?10:52
pagkeh7d, it's installing the drivers10:52
keh7dno way!10:52
keh7deasy.10:52
pagkeh7d, yup...10:53
arunvzduch: so basically i'm stuck with the ntfs partition?10:53
pagkeh7d, enabling them is the hard part :-/10:53
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pagkeh7d, so take backup:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup10:54
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keh7dpag -- backed up. do you have a link for some enabling instructions?10:55
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openoriginHello everybody, there is no www-data user or group in my system even after installing LAMP10:56
keh7dthis might work -- http://ramikayyali.com/archives/2005/11/27/nvidia10:56
pagkeh7d, link? I've got a command :)  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable10:57
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vzducharun: only possibility I see that saves both the Winblows install and Kubuntu is removing the NTFS storage partition _and_ the FAT32 partition and create new ones, this time w/ the FAT partition in 2nd place, then you have free space directly before your Kubuntu partition and could add that (if possible, which I don't know)10:57
keh7dpag -- lol, so hard because...?10:57
arunvzduch: hmm..10:57
arunvzduch: thanks10:57
vzduchbut my suggestion would rather be leaving the partitions as-is, only reformatting the 2nd NTFS to ext3 or whatever you like and use that e.g. as /home10:58
pagkeh7d, well.. for me it managed to forget the place of card, so it didn't want to start X10:58
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adeniciopag: how do u format hdd's?10:58
pagkeh7d, so just in case: you can revert your backup by doing sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:58
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arunvzduch: will i be able to read the ext3 partition from my kubuntu?10:58
vzduchof course10:59
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arunand if i format that as /home, then what happens to my current home directory10:59
vzducharun: you would copy your existing /home over there and mount the new partition as /home10:59
pagadenicio, gparted is a nice tool  (dd works too, but if used wrong it can cause too great damage so I can't really reccomend that)10:59
keh7dpag -- yea it didn't want it to be easy for me either (apparently)11:00
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arunvzduch: is that easy to do?11:00
ashokrajahow can i have muliple ssh key based  authentication login to different servers from my machine ?11:00
vzduchhaven't done it yet.. but apart from possible initial permission problems it should be a breeze11:00
adeniciopag: ok11:01
Lynoureashokraja: sure, just repeat the process for each11:01
pagkeh7d, try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:01
ashokrajabut the is only one public key and one private key i can hold on my machine .11:01
adeniciopag: feisty dont have a intergrate tool to format?11:01
ashokrajabut there is only one public key and one private key i can hold on my machine .11:02
Lynoureashokraja: what's limiting you to that?11:02
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arunvzduch: but then it'll be 40GB for /home and 50GB for the rest of it?11:02
pagadenicio, it has, but it hasn't got a GUI11:02
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pagadenicio, sudo apt-get install gparted   installs the nice and working GUI for those purposes11:03
Lynoureashokraja: and, you can use same pair for different competers if you wish.11:03
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vzducharun: it's a bit sh*tty, yes.. would perhaps be the best solution to delete everything apart from the Winblows install & create new partitions11:03
Lynoures/competers/computers11:03
vzduchmake a 10-15 GB / and a large /home11:03
ashokrajaoh, ok i will try it .. Thanks buddy11:04
Lynoureashokraja: good luck11:04
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arunvzduch: yup, seems that way. but if i reinstall kubuntu, can i save all my settings somewhere? i dont want to configure everything all over again11:04
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WigglesHi.11:05
arunhey Wiggles11:05
LinuxAddictHey there11:05
WigglesI can't seem to use kmail without installing kontact11:05
Wigglesis there a way around this?11:05
LinuxAddictkmail runs inside kontact11:05
LinuxAddictnot that i know of11:05
pagWiggles, alt+f2 -> kmail11:05
arunWiggles: do you have kontact installed?11:05
vzducharun: you can back up your /home, your /etc, and there is a way to save your current package selection to a file so you can reinstall those packages later, but the latter I don't know how to do11:06
Wigglesi do, but i don't need anything  else inside kontact11:06
arunvzduch: so after i reinstall, i should just replace my /home and /etc folders with my backed up ones?11:06
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arunWiggles: do what pag said11:06
Wigglesok11:06
Wigglesthat works11:06
arunWiggles: press alt+f2 and type kmail11:06
vzducharun: or at least their content w/ the content of the backups11:07
Wigglescan I add that to my menu somehow?11:07
arunvzduch: and that's it?11:07
vzduchWiggles: KMail should already be in the menu11:07
vzducharun: yep11:07
arunvzduch: damn i'll have to install my nvidia drivers and all that stuff again11:07
arunaaaaa11:07
vzduchputting backups of /home back in the system is what I did a few times now11:07
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vzducharun: that'll be necessary of course11:08
keh7dpag -- so I am at the "resolutions" screen, stupid question but how do I "check" (as in mark for keeping) a resolution?11:08
pagkeh7d, space(?)11:09
ashokrajawhat is this file ment for --> /home/ashokraja/.ssh/identity ?11:09
keh7dpag -- nice...11:09
arunvzduch: i initially formatted that way, because kubuntu was just like a 'hobby' thing. i thought it was cool, so i was using it. but now, after having used it for a couple years, i find that it's become my primary OS for both work and other things.11:09
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arunvzduch: another thing.. what about my samba shared folders? i'm sharing a folder with my vmware/windows installation.. will i have to create everything again after reinstalling?11:10
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Lynoureashokraja: it's where people often keep their primary ssh private key11:11
vzducharun: no idea about that w/o further investigation11:12
Lynoureashokraja: you can use  -i identity_file11:12
Lynoureashokraja: that lets you specify other file to use11:13
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arunhey Lynoure, how's it going11:14
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Lynourearun: it's ok. a quiet weekend.11:14
ashokrajaok buddy11:15
keh7dpag -- should i restart or anything?11:16
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ashokrajacan i put more than one private key in the same file ?11:16
Lynoureashokraja: no, you need separate files, I think11:17
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Lynoureashokraja: you can you ssh-keygen with -f to specify the file it creates11:18
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ashokrajabut in my case i want different private key to authenticate different client in to my single server.11:19
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trekdanneisn't there something like $USER/.ssh/authorized/11:20
ashokrajabut that file is to hold the public keys not the private keys11:20
Lynoureashokraja: the key you put on the server is the public one, so it is not harmful to use just one keypair11:20
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ashokrajaok11:21
ashokrajathank to all11:21
Lynoureoh, went11:21
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keh7dYAY! running nvidia drivers!11:22
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pagkeh7d, try that command: glxinfo | grep -i direct11:23
keh7dgot a "yes"11:23
pagkeh7d, and sorry I didn't answer to your previous question - I wasn't at the computer then11:23
keh7dpag -- no prob.11:24
pagkeh7d, great, it means all works :)  Did you got the resolution right?11:24
keh7dhaha. well no. still stuck at 1024x76811:24
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keh7dalso, my refresh rate is limited to 54 Hz11:25
arunkeh7d: you might have to edit your xorg.conf11:25
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vzduchkeh7d: there take a look at the 'Section "Monitor"', especially the values for HorizSync and VertRefresh11:26
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vzduchthese must match the ranges that your monitor can handle11:26
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keh7dvzduch -- ok, they are set Horiz 30-65 and Vert 50-75.11:27
keh7dguess i better find out what my monitor can handle.,11:27
vzduchare these the correct values for your monitor?11:28
keh7dill look.11:28
vzduchif not, change accordingly11:28
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adeniciopad are these stuf we download with adept free?11:29
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keh7dvzduch -- says  Horiz 60 khz and Vert 75 hz, so the ranges should be fine...11:30
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vzduchkeh7d: what monitor you have?11:31
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keh7dDell E153FP11:31
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prag2002evening kubuntu peoples11:31
arunhey prag200211:32
vzduchevening?  you in East Asia or so?11:32
pagadenicio, everything in adept is free as in beer - most of them are also free as in speech11:32
prag2002sarchastia...I'm in the US11:32
aruni never understood the free as in beer phrase11:32
pagarun, me neither :)11:33
vzducharun: 'free as in beer' == at no cost11:33
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arunvzduch: i know what it means11:33
keh7dwhere is beer free?11:33
aruni just dont know where it came from11:33
prag2002I'm on my way there11:33
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arunwhat's a 'dock application bar' and 'universal sidebar'11:34
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vzduchkeh7d: should be OK.. even though I found specs that say for HorizSync 30-6311:34
arunok never mind the universal sidebar, but what's a dock application bar11:35
arunwhat purpose does it serve11:35
prag2002its like the dock on mac?11:35
keh7dvzduch, i guess manually edit the xorg.conf file is the only way then?11:35
arunkeh7d: back it up first11:36
vzduchI guess it doesn't really matter if it gives a little more than you have in the specs11:36
vzduchbut you can try though11:36
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keh7dok. it is still strange to me that the xorg file has many more resolutions listed than are available under "system settings"11:37
pagarun, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2348707&postcount=1011:38
arunthanks pag11:38
vzduch[offtopic]  isn't Pag one of the Adriatic islands of Croatia?11:38
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pagvzduch, huh? :P11:39
vzduchjust wondering =D11:39
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linuxcrazyhowdee wiggles11:40
Wigglesi installed compiz, how do i use it?11:40
linuxcrazygot a hammer?11:40
Wiggleswhat?11:41
linuxcrazya hammer11:41
Wiggleswhats a hammer?11:41
linuxcrazya tool used for beating nails into wood and other sundry pounding services11:41
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vzduchhehe11:42
Wiggleswhy would i need a hammer to use compiz?11:42
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linuxcrazyjust thought it might help matters11:43
Wigglesi don't think it will11:43
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Wigglesi imagine a hammer might make things worse11:43
linuxcrazymake you feel better, it would, dont lie11:44
Wiggleslol11:44
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linuxcrazyre 711:49
keh7dwhen i change the reso. settings under "system settings" they don't stay (each time i go back they have reverted to 1024x768)11:49
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keh7dals the refresh values are different than what is listed under xorg.conf...11:50
linuxcrazywhats your max resolution in your monitor settings in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?11:50
keh7d1280x960@60 is max11:50
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keh7dbut 1280x960@50 is all i can adjust to, and it doesnt stay anyway11:51
vzduchkeh7d: according to the specs I found your monitor has a native res of 1024x76811:51
keh7dvzduc, does that mean I can't change it?11:51
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keh7dvzduch*11:51
vzduchat least it's not very handy to use a higher res11:52
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pag!tab | keh7d, just as hint11:53
ubotukeh7d, just as hint: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.11:53
keh7dubotu: cool, i knew about the command line. thnx for the tip11:54
Wigglesi can't find the beryl manager11:54
Wiggleshow can i run it?11:54
keh7dand ubotu is just a bot. how foolish of me11:54
pagWiggles, alt+f2 -> beryl-manager11:55
linuxcrazydontcha hate it when that happens keh7d11:55
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keh7dlinuxcrazy: yep.11:55
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Wigglespag: "Could not run the specified command." I get that11:55
pagWiggles, do you have it installed?  " sudo apt-get install beryl-manager " in konsole11:56
keh7dvzduch -- can i circumvent the native reso.?11:56
linuxcrazysee also: hammer keh7d11:56
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Wigglesuh oh11:58
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keh7dhammer? im not ready to giv up on this frustrating piece of junk.11:58
Wigglesi ran it and lost my panel and titlebar11:58
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pagWiggles, panel? -strange...  titlebar? - yup.. I'm not surpriced :-/  alt+f2 -> kwin --replace  should get the titlebar back11:59
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vzduchkeh7d: use 1024x768 or buy a monitor that _can_ do 1280x102411:59
keh7dvzduch, haha well at least i hav the driver installed12:00
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keh7ddamn.12:00
Wigglesalt+f2 isn't working anymore :(12:00
Wigglesreboot?12:00
keh7dthnx everyone. im gna check ebay for a new monitor12:00
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pagWiggles, maybe... or if you still have konsole open, you can enter the command there too12:01
Wigglesi lost konsole12:01
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setkehwassup guys12:03
linuxcrazyme barely12:03
setkehlol12:03
setkehhas any one here have much experiance with slackware12:03
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Wigglesso... does this mean no beryl?12:04
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snipexim gnome user and i have amarok installed but it refuses to play because there is no mp3 support for it. when it shows message No MP3 Support it stops responding. what packages do i have to install in synaptic ?12:04
pagsnipex, make sure you have enabled multiverse12:05
pagsnipex, and the package is libxine-extracodecs12:06
linuxcrazyhttp://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.0612:06
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trekdannesetkeh: i used to always use slackware before ubuntu12:06
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snipexpag thank you12:07
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vzduchtrekdanne: why switch from Slack to *buntu?12:09
setkehtrekdanne:  i dont know what i buggerd up lol but all i get is a dos like system lol12:09
Wigglescould it be a driver problem thats messing beryl up?12:10
linuxcrazy(whispers) hammer hammer hammer12:11
setkehdoes any one know where i screwed up slack ???????12:12
linuxcrazythis bites, I'm on a friends xp box and I cant play along with our home game12:12
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setkehbtw all my linux os's are runn through vmware i normally run xp for my gameing and linux for nearly the rest12:13
linuxcrazyooh how do I remote into a kubuntu box from windoze?12:14
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linuxcrazyI can log on via ssh, but no preety windoze12:15
nobbihallo an alle12:15
setkehO_o12:15
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vzduchlinuxcrazy: ssh is cmdline-only.. if you want teh graphical sh*t you need e.g. VNC12:17
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setkehvzduch:  i just spent like 2 hours downloading and installing all the packages for ubuntu lol12:19
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trekdannevzduch, setkeh, overall the difference between slack and ubuntu isn't that big. The main reason I switched to ubuntu was that the slackware team took to long between each releases12:22
trekdannetoo long12:23
trekdanneand basically some choices are just plain weird, like using the lilo bootloader as default12:24
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setkehlol im just downloading as many distros as i cand find an installing them to vm ware but i tried to install slackware but i messed something up i think as it only acts like windows DOS12:26
vzduchsetkeh: Slack doesn't start a GUI by default12:27
vzduchyou have to manually invoke it  startx12:27
setkehvzduch:  startx ????? thats what starts it ?????12:28
vzduchsetkeh: yep12:28
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waylandbillsetkeh: slack may not be an initial choice of distros12:28
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trekdannehmm install kdm and make it go to runlevel 512:29
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waylandbillsetkeh: it assumes you know the workings of the system well.12:29
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bjwebbhi12:30
trekdanneslackware is generally depleated, however the BSD-styled init file is kinda nice12:30
setkehi am a fiddler lol i just like playing around with new things lol12:30
trekdanne!hi | bjwebb12:30
ubotubjwebb: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:30
bjwebbwhere could i find a list of all codecs i need to install ontop of a fresh kubuntu12:30
setkehthats why i am playing with linux atm lol12:31
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bjwebbso i can just do one big apt-get command12:31
trekdanne!codecs12:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:31
trekdannebut mainly "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" and fetching the binary codecs from MPlayers homepage should do the trick12:32
bjwebbhmm okay12:33
waylandbillsetkeh: keep in mind that slack doesn't have anything as advanced as apt. Many things have to be installed from source with you being responsible for the prerequisites. It'll teach you alot of how linux works though.12:33
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setkehwaylandbill:  well im just about to shut down thin virtual machine and start up slacks one and try this "startx"' thing and have a look lol12:34
setkehbe back in about 10 - 15 mins12:35
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cpluspluswhat is the /proc filesystem?12:35
trekdannehmm, I find the ./configure, make, make install cycle just rather cumbersome, it I not gonna customize anything anyway12:35
trekdannecplusplus: a way for the kernel to get information to applications12:36
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trekdanneor rather make the information available in userspace12:36
trekdanneand it works the other way too, i must point out12:37
trekdanneyou can set stuff up in the kernel by changing stuff under /proc12:37
cplusplusok12:38
trekdanneit isn't files as files on a hard drive but virtual files as FIFOs and stuff12:39
cplusplusits a virtual filesystem?12:39
waylandbillyes, in memory..12:39
waylandbillcplusplus: this may help: http://www.freeos.com/articles/2879/12:40
cpluspluswhat is /root used for?12:40
trekdannegenerally the home directory of the root user12:40
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birolola12:41
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cplusplusah just the home dir of root?12:41
cplusplusups12:41
trekdannehi birol12:41
trekdanne!es12:42
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:42
cRy089;)12:42
waylandbillcplusplus: the Table 3-2 on this page explains the various directories found in a typical linux system: http://linuxbasics.org/course/book/sect_03_0112:42
cplusplusthen i need to find out the difference between /bin /sbin and /usr/sbin ....12:42
cplusplusthats in the book?12:42
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trekdannenote that the names are arbitrary and differ among linux distros.12:43
cpluspluseach linux distry has /bin and /sbin12:44
trekdannehmm yea12:44
waylandbillcplusplus: they dont have too but usually do in a 'typical' situation.12:44
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trekdanneyou may want to research the $PATH  var also if you are unfamilar with how the file system lookup works12:46
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ijuzwhen i press the sleep button on my laptop the suspend to ram (or more exact the resume) fails, but when i start /etc/apt/sleep.sh it works... has somebody an idea what in kde is screwing up the process?12:48
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waylandbillcplusplus: that whole book is a great read.12:48
cplusplusthey dont write a lot about /bin and /sbin12:48
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trekdannehmm cplusplus, IIRC sbin is sort for super binary, programs made to be run by the super user, root12:49
lockdanyone know what ssbin means, I've seen it some places but not Ubuntu12:50
cplusplusyeah but i see a /usr/sbin ...12:50
cplusplusthats not only for root?12:50
waylandbillcplusplus: /usr/sbin is 'non-essential' system binaries12:50
lockdlike iwconfig, and things - they just aren't essential to a running system12:51
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cplusplusand bin ?12:51
cplusplusall other binaries12:51
trekdannewaylandbill: hmm so "sbin" is short for "system binary" not "super binary"12:51
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cplusplusoh12:51
waylandbillit's really a hold over from the unix file system standard; http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/index.html#TOC12:51
waylandbilltrekdanne: yeah. system.12:52
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trekdanneok sorry12:52
lockdwaylandbill: It's a hold over maybe, but there's no reason to change12:52
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trekdanneisn't there a "linux distro" file system standard too?12:52
waylandbilllockd: maybe an inheritence of is a better way to put it.12:53
trekdannehmm but it does exist a standard how the files should be put in direcories under a linux system so linux distos will be compatible12:54
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trekdannei don't recall that POSIX  specifies where the files should be ?? am i correct?12:54
lockdtrekdanne: AFAICT it doesn't, because even NT kernel qualifies12:55
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lockdtrekdanne: as far as file system standard, there's the linux filesystem hierarchy.. I don't know any distros that don't use it12:57
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waylandbilldistros aren't required to use the typical hierarchy though since open source can let them change the code to how they like and then redistribute it.12:59
trekdannelockd: hmm yea that's it12:59
lockdwaylandbill: well, -distributions- can't really do that01:00
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trekdannewaylandbill: you're right ofc. but there is a project that "enforce" compatibilty between distros01:00
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trekdanneand they are kinda hard that "dd" should be under /bin etc ...01:01
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lockdtrekdanne: why not? it's not a system binary, and it's useful to single user systems01:01
coup1exit01:01
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trekdannelockd: ??01:03
lockdwaylandbill: other (non-packaged) programs could cough on a non-standard hierarchy01:03
trekdannelol @ coup101:03
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waylandbillnot part of the base system of course... such as some distros put kde in /usr/bin and others under /opt.01:03
lockdtrekdanne: dd should be under /bin for those reasons01:03
lockdtrekdanne: things only useful to multi-user systems = /usr/*01:04
trekdannelockd: ah. just an example01:04
trekdannelockd: that this project has made a standard where it says "dd go under /bin"01:04
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waylandbilltrekdanne: what's the name of the project, btw?01:06
trekdanneam not sure01:06
trekdanneand a quick google doesn't find anything either01:07
trekdannebut i'm pretty sure it does exist01:07
trekdanneat least a few years ago01:07
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AngelEyes1701Hi, I am looking for some assistance with configuring my screen refresh rate?01:10
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trekdanneAngelEyes1701: are you using the nvidia binary driver?01:11
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TaatelipalmuHi, I need a little help. I have a FAT32 disk I want to use as storage in both windows and linux, but I'm unable to change the permissions. I try to change them in super user konqueror, (Right Click > properties... Permissions), but it won't do it. No error message or anything, it just closes the properties window without changing anything. What should I do?01:12
cplusplusdid u change it under windows?01:13
bullgard4Synaptic writes: "The kexi package is part of the KDE Office Suite." I am going to stay with my OO.o Office. When installing kexi, would I have to install a lot of general-purpose KDE program packages also?01:13
trekdanneAngelEyes1701: on IRC the prefered way to spefify to whom you are talking is using the nick like this <-01:13
TaatelipalmuWhen I ran konqueror, it gave me two "X error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device ###" might that have anything to do with it?01:14
Taatelipalmucplusplus: I formatted the partition under a xubuntu livecd01:14
trekdanneAngelEyes1701: so do you have a nvidia card?01:14
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: Like so?01:14
trekdanneyes exactkly01:14
cplusplusdo you use samba?01:14
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: Not a clue. It's a new desktop and the screencard is onboard.01:14
sinepi need a good flashplayer for firefox and a media player that can replace windows media player... Any recommendations on this?01:15
TaatelipalmuNot that I know of. That's for file sharin, right..? Do I need it for using the partition cross-OS?01:15
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: How would i go about figuring out what kind of screen card I have?01:15
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trekdanneAngelEyes1701: hmm running lspci in a console should do the trick01:16
TaatelipalmuKubuntu is pretty much in the state I installed it in01:16
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trekdanneAngelEyes1701: you know how to do that?01:16
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: Yeah I do have some geek in me. :)01:17
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AngelEyes1701trekdanne: Seems what I am looking for is:  VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 3343 (rev 01)01:17
waylandbillTaatelipalmu: you need to set the default mask that mount uses for that paritition.01:17
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: Or "VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 3343 (rev 01)" to be more exact.01:17
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TaatelipalmuMkay, how do I do that? (/linux newb)01:18
trekdanneAngelEyes1701: the second I think01:18
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: It's the same line. I just copied only half of it the first time. :)01:18
trekdanneAngelEyes1701: actually I'm not familar with VIA's cards ? do they actually do 3d-cards01:18
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AngelEyes1701trekdanne: I have no idea. It's an onboard card, as I've said.01:19
cplusplus /opt is used for packages right?01:19
waylandbillTaatelipalmu: one way is in the fstab. This page explains a little: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows01:20
vzduch/opt is almost unused these days01:20
cpluspluswhy?01:20
trekdanne!ati01:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:20
vzduchcplusplus: ask the packagers01:20
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trekdanneAngelEyes1701: nvm the bot wait a sec plz01:21
TaatelipalmuOkay, will try. Thanks waylandbill.01:21
vzduchonly thing i have in /opt is CrossOver01:21
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trekdanneAngelEyes1701: you may need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file01:22
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: I am not used to feeling like such a n00b. It's just that Linux requires some getting used to.01:22
setkehi got into slack lol01:23
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AngelEyes1701trekdanne: Why and how?01:23
trekdanneAngelEyes1701: hmm i'm thinking if there's some automatically way to do this01:23
setkehbut my keyboard doesent like it much it keeps ssssssssstttttrrrrreeeecccchhhiiinnnnggg my words in a random fasion lol01:23
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waylandbillsetkeh: increase the repeat rate delay in kcontrol01:24
trekdanneAngelEyes1701: xorg takes care of the display and graphic card drivers and stuff and /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the main configuration file01:24
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: It took me several hours to get Linux to read my old Windows HDs. Now I just want the screen to stop blinking...01:24
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: Yeah, that much i did figure out from some extensive Googling.01:25
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trekdanneAngelEyes1701: did you use to download some drivers to windows to make the card work?01:25
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AngelEyes1701trekdanne: This desktop is a Windows virgin. It has never been touched by Microsoft. I wanted her to be an open source only machine.01:26
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: But I am beginning to seriously consider making her a dual-boot.01:27
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trekdanneAngelEyes1701: ah ok. try to run "kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf"01:27
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trekdanneAngelEyes1701: hmm yea as you said it takes some time to get used too01:27
trekdanneAngelEyes1701: scroll down to the "Section "Monitor""01:28
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: Computer says: "kwrite: not found"01:28
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trekdanneare you running kubuntu?01:28
setkehwaylandbill:  ill write it down so when i boot it up again i can change it :D i cant at the mment lol as its on vmware an im useing ubuntu on vmware at the moment because my host os is downloading lol and im talking to mah missus lol01:28
trekdanneor ordinary ubunutu?01:28
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AngelEyes1701trekdanne: I haven't got a clue?01:29
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: How do I check?01:29
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trekdanneAngelEyes1701: ah you probably run ubuntu01:29
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: And what's the difference?01:29
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AngelEyes1701trekdanne: Is that a good or a bad thing?01:30
trekdanneAngelEyes1701: kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE and ubuntu is ubuntu with GNOME01:30
waylandbillshouldn't matter for changing X parameters. both should be the same in that regard.01:30
trekdanneyea01:30
trekdannebut i've always used kubuntu :P01:31
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: If only I knew what that meant...01:31
lockdit just depends on what desktop environment you like, and which applications you use most01:31
trekdannetry something like: sudo gwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:31
Wiggleshow can i set beryl to automaticly run when i start my computer?01:31
waylandbill!Autostart01:32
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.01:32
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: I think it hates me. Computer says: "sudo: gwrite: command not found"01:32
trekdannepeople here tends to prefer KDE and Qt-based apps, but it is just a matter of personal preference and isn't that important to system settings and stuff01:32
trekdannenah i'm just unfamilar with the gnome editor stuff :P01:33
waylandbillAngelEyes1701: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:33
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AngelEyes1701waylandbill: "kate: not found"01:34
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trekdannei think he's running ubuntu01:34
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lockdtrekdanne: aren't you supposed to use gksu for graphical sudo?01:34
trekdannelockd: yea that's probably right01:34
AngelEyes1701trekdanne: Ahem, I am a she.01:34
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trekdanneah ok sorry, just asumes everyone here's a he01:35
lockdtrekdanne: kde is more finicky about that it seems01:35
waylandbillAngelEyes1701: they're is what he meant.. really. ;-)01:35
AngelEyes1701Just because I installed Linux doesn't make me a guy! Sheesh. :-P01:35
lockdtrekdanne: I just avoid pronouns at all costs01:36
trekdannehmm did you try "gksu gwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf"01:36
lockdor just sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?01:37
AngelEyes1701First one did nothing.01:37
trekdanneyea listen to lockd01:37
AngelEyes1701Second one appears to have done something.01:38
lockdI don't know which are installed by default in ubuntu01:38
trekdanneme either :P01:38
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danimomoin!01:38
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trekdanneso basically nano/kwrite/etc is text editors like notepad under windows01:38
lockdAngelEyes1701: nano is a text editor.. if you want a more familiar one you can always 'sudo aptitude install gedit' or something like that01:38
trekdanneif you didn't figure01:39
waylandbillthe guys (and gals) over at #ubuntu would probably know better about what's installed by default. :-)01:39
AngelEyes1701Aha! I think I found something.01:39
AngelEyes1701Section "Device"01:39
AngelEyes1701        Identifier      "Generic Video Card"01:39
AngelEyes1701        Driver          "vesa"01:39
AngelEyes1701        BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"01:39
lockd!paste | AngelEyes170101:39
ubotuAngelEyes1701: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:39
AngelEyes1701Sowwy.01:39
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lockdthat isn't so bad but you can pastebin your whole xorg.conf01:39
trekdanneAngelEyes1701: I think the "Section "Monitor"" may be relevant01:40
lockdAngelEyes1701: what's the problem with X?01:40
AngelEyes1701Is there a need for the whole thing? It just seems my video card is installed with a generic driver. And I somehow need to figure out which driver to install to make the screen be less blinky.01:40
AngelEyes1701Section "Monitor"01:41
AngelEyes1701        Identifier      "Q995"01:41
AngelEyes1701        Option          "DPMS"01:41
lockdAngelEyes1701: do you have ati or nvidia? or neither?01:41
AngelEyes1701lockd: I don't have a clue. New desktop, onboard video card, never had Windows on it.01:41
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waylandbilllockd: it might not be either one.01:42
ijuzAngelEyes1701: so pastebin lspci01:42
AngelEyes1701I might just install Windows, set up SiSoft Sandra and then install Ubuntu so I can know what drivers to set up. Might make my life easier.01:42
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trekdannelspci says "VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 3343 (rev 01)"01:42
AngelEyes1701ijuz: I did that.01:42
AngelEyes1701Exactly.01:43
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lockdwaylandbill: guess it wasn't either01:43
setkehomg01:43
lockdAngelEyes1701: does it blink without action, or is it "flicker" when you move windows?01:43
setkehkopete crashed again01:44
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AngelEyes1701But I do think it got the monitor right. I have a Hyundai ImageQuest Q995 for a screen.01:44
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AngelEyes1701lockd: It's just a really low refresh rate driving my eyes insane.01:44
setkehlol01:44
sailor!encryption01:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about encryption - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:44
waylandbillAngelEyes1701: that's because of the vesa driver. it'01:44
lockdAngelEyes1701: please pastebin the entire xorg.conf to paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:44
setkehis there a better messinger client ??????01:44
sailordoes anyone know if there is a howto on setting up folder encryption?01:45
AngelEyes1701lockd: I can't get it over 65.01:45
waylandbillit's like the fallback driver.01:45
sailor!crypt01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
lockdsailor: best way would be mounting encrypted images as "loopbacks"01:45
trekdanneAngelEyes1701: hmm the problem is probably the "vesa" driver as you say01:46
waylandbillAngelEyes1701: without knowing more specifically what card it is, it's hard to know what driver is correct. The lspci doesn't tell enough for some reason.01:46
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lockdwell, lspci -a shows more, correct?01:46
sailorlockd: cool sounds good. i could set one up as a device on the desktop to right mouse click / mount / unmout etc. which fs / crypto is the best to use?01:46
lockdsailor: for simplicity's sake I would use ext301:47
trekdannelockd: but that's just PCI UUIDs and stuff, i recon01:47
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setkehis there a better messinger client than kopete for ubuntu ???????01:47
trekdannesetkeh: gaim?01:47
AngelEyes1701lockd: I pasted the whole thing to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33324/01:47
sailorlockd: and any particular crypto algo? and do you know of any howtos?01:48
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setkehtrekdanne:  doese it work for MSN ????01:48
waylandbillsetkeh: gaim does, yes.01:49
setkehwaylandbill:  thanks mate :D cuz it just crashed again i dont think it like the whole webcam thing much lol01:49
lockdsailor: look up loop-aes01:49
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sailorlockd: cheers01:50
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Tabmowsis there anyway to figure out how much kbps an interface is doing at any one time?01:51
AngelEyes1701lockd: Is the pasted thing any help?01:51
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trekdanneTabmows: ksysguard can show that IIRC01:52
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Tabmowsi was thinking more a cmd line thing? so i can put it in a script01:52
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sailorlockd: hmm, i didnt want to create a loopback file as i dont want to put a limmit on the encrypted folder. Whats the next best option?01:52
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lockdAngelEyes1701: no, but if it does have to do with "vesa" I don't know which driver you would need01:53
ijuzsailor: encfs01:53
_dacan one copy a DVD?01:53
cpluspluswhat is the /var directory used for?01:53
sailorijuz: cheers ill check it out :)01:53
waylandbillcplusplus: files that change often.01:54
cplusplusconfig files?01:54
AngelEyes1701lockd: So it looks like I'll have to run Windows after all. Bummer.01:54
waylandbillcplusplus: unix used that when hdd's where smaller and the file system could potentially fill up.01:54
setkehGAIM keeps crashing aswell lol01:55
trekdanne_da: yes, k3b can do that for you01:55
cpluspluswhy?01:55
waylandbillcplusplus: config files are in /etc  (edittable text configuration)01:55
lockdAngelEyes1701: maybe not01:55
cplusplusvars are like backup files?01:55
lockdAngelEyes1701: it said VIA, and well it's via motherboard01:56
sailorstrange why konq is telling me my samba shares dont exist. lol cant even see my own smb shares :D01:56
cplusplusi mean resizing of a disk?01:56
lockdAngelEyes1701: let me try searching for via vesa flicker01:56
waylandbillcplusplus: they are "variable files"01:56
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cplusplusyeah...01:56
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vzduchcplusplus: files w/ variable size, mostly logs and mail spools01:57
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cpluspluslogs01:57
cplusplusok01:57
cplusplussyslog;)01:57
AngelEyes1701And to top it all, IRC is lagging on me like crazy. Wah.01:57
waylandbillcplusplus: no. they were put on another drive or partition because drives were small and filling the root filesystem on a server would be disasterous.01:57
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DragnslcrAnd for some reason, Ubuntu puts stuff like Apache's web root and MySQL's data directory in /var01:57
vzduchno lag here01:58
AngelEyes1701I'll be off to install teh Windoze on my shiny dual-core desktop. I feel like a bad person. Bye all!01:58
lockdAngelEyes1701: wait, i have the pkg name01:58
AngelEyes1701lockd: ?01:58
lockdAngelEyes1701: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-via01:58
AngelEyes1701lockd: It ran something and said: "No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed."01:59
[ifr0g] gpg : Why do we generate a revocation certificate for our key ?01:59
lockdAngelEyes1701: oh, perhaps it's already installed.. you can try changing vesa to via02:00
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AngelEyes1701lockd: In the configruation file?02:00
lockdAngelEyes1701: yes, then ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X02:00
cpluspluswaylandbill:  unix used that when hdd's where smaller and the file system could potentially fill up.   ...how could a harddisk become smaller?02:00
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AngelEyes1701lockd: How do I revive X then?02:00
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lockdAngelEyes1701: gdm or kdm should take care of that02:01
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lockdAngelEyes1701: if it doesn't then switch back to vesa02:02
Tabmows[ifr0g] , in case someone gets the private key... you just revoke it and the recovation cert and create a new key pair02:02
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[ifr0g] Tabmow,  cant is simply create a new key with out the recovation cetificate using..  --gen-key02:05
waylandbillcplusplus: they were smaller historically.02:05
waylandbillcplusplus: /var just was inherited too. :-)02:06
cplusplusbecause clusters are corrupted?;)02:06
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setkehwaylandbill: anythinng elese i need to fix in slack ????02:06
Tabmows[ifr0g] , yes, but if someone else has your priv cert they can impersonate you... hence why you want to revocate it02:06
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sailorijuz: how could i set up encfs using just an icon on the desktop? ie right mouse click mount / unmount etc? or would i have to make a script to do it?02:07
[ifr0g] Tabmow, if i can create another key and distrobute my public key again.. All my truted friends can use the new one right ?02:08
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Tabmowsyes02:08
AngelEyes1701Well, I am back.02:08
sailorijuz: do you think it would be easier to use libpam-encfs ?02:09
AngelEyes1701Trying to change "vesa" to "via" in the conf file made the computer tell me I have no screen and refuse to give me anything but console until I switched it back and restarted.02:09
[ifr0g] Tabmow, i only see it useful to revoke your key if the passphase is forgotten.. am i right ?02:09
Tabmowsnot necessarily.. if someone has obtained your private key, and they have your password or it is a passwordless key then you will want to revoke it02:10
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[ifr0g] Tabmow, huh, because it sends and up date to the key server..02:11
[ifr0g] i did not notice that.02:12
ijuzsailor: no idea... i just use it on the console, i'm to lazy to find out anything else02:12
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lockdAngelEyes1701: yuck02:15
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[ifr0g] Tabmow, when you first create your key does it add you to the keyserver automatically..02:16
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lockdAngelEyes1701: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397302:16
Tabmows[ifr0g] , what do you mean by the keyserver?02:17
[ifr0g] Tabmow, http://pgp.mit.edu/02:17
Tabmowsi am pretty sure it doesn't do it automatically.. depends how you go about creating your keypair though02:18
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sailorijuz: lol02:18
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AngelEyes1701lockd: That looks very time consuming. I guess I will play with that when I am done with my university homework in Database System Concepts - speaking of yuck.02:20
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AngelEyes1701lockd: Bye for now, I will be back.02:20
lockdAngelEyes1701: did you says something about SiS?02:20
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lockdAngelEyes1701: before, I recall you mentioning that on windows02:20
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[ifr0g] Tabmow, huh, lookes like revoking a key is useless with out the keyserver. cause when you revoke it you have to send it to the keyserver.. without which there is no way of telling your trusted friends about the change.02:21
AngelEyes1701lockd: Nope. My old desktop had SiS and Windows. This one's new.02:21
Tabmows[ifr0g] , i don't use a keyserver, i distribute my public key myself...02:21
lockdAngelEyes1701: have you pastebin'ed your lspci?02:22
[ifr0g] Tabmow, so did you create a revocation certificate ?02:22
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Tabmowsyes02:22
AngelEyes1701lockd: Yes.02:23
lockdAngelEyes1701: link?02:23
AngelEyes1701lockd: Yes. I pasted the URL before I had to restart.02:23
[ifr0g] Tabmow, then could you type the command you would use to revoke it OR How would you inform your trusted friends about the change ?02:23
AngelEyes1701lockd: Scroll up, it's there somewhere.02:23
[ifr0g] if ever was to e compromised.02:24
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lockdAngelEyes1701: just run lspci and upload to pastebin02:25
lockdAngelEyes1701: that wasn't even the full output02:25
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lockdAngelEyes1701: i'm on windows irssi, so I can only scroll about 2 pages02:25
Tabmows[ifr0g] , http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/c14.html02:26
AngelEyes1701lockd: What's the place to paste it again?02:27
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vzduch!paste | AngelEyes170102:27
ubotuAngelEyes1701: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:27
lockdAngelEyes1701: paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:27
AngelEyes1701lockd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33329/02:28
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lockdAngelEyes1701: thanks02:29
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AngelEyes1701lockd: No, thank you. I am being a n00b and you're helping. For which I am grateful beyond words.02:29
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lockdAngelEyes1701: does the X windows seem to open in "sheets"?02:31
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AngelEyes1701lockd: Not sure what that means.02:32
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lockdAngelEyes1701: xserver-xorg-video-unichrome02:34
lockdAngelEyes1701: sudo aptitude install ^02:34
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lockdAngelEyes1701: then try setting the driver="unichrome"02:35
AngelEyes1701lockd: Okay, it had some issues, I thinks.02:35
lockdAngelEyes1701: can you pastebin the actual output of that?02:35
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AngelEyes1701lockd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33331/02:36
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lockdAngelEyes1701: just try setting driver = "unichrome", it looks as if it just can't handle having both installed02:38
AngelEyes1701lockd: Where and how do I set it so it won't decide I don't have a screen anymore?02:38
lockdAngelEyes1701: under Section "Device", replace Driver "vesa" with Driver "unichrome"02:40
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AngelEyes1701lockd: In xorg.conf?02:40
lockdAngelEyes1701: but I still can't be sure it will work, so if it doesn't I might be able to tell from /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:41
lockdAngelEyes1701: yes, in xorg.conf, under section "device"02:41
AngelEyes1701lockd: Okay, changed. Now what should I do?02:41
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lockdAngelEyes1701: wait, try reinstalling xserver-xorg-video-unichrome02:42
lockdBAH, it didn't finish installing because of some stupid negative score02:42
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lockdthis stupid thing with the instant you detach an X client you kill it is driving me nuts02:43
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setkehWOW lol02:57
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rafelyou spain?03:07
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ubotuconstantinosm: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:17
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constantinosmi have two pc in my network and i want to conevtec03:19
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graffio_dell_aniciao a tutti03:32
cplusplus italiano?03:32
cplusplusroma?03:32
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graffio_dell_aniitaliano asti03:33
rafelholaaaaa03:34
cplusplusda dove venite?03:34
rafelwhat?03:34
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rafelhola03:35
graffio_dell_anisomethings use a kde firewall interface (as firestarter)?03:36
rafelhallo Lunar03:36
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zerozerowhat file contains your video settings?03:43
trekdannewhat do you mean "video settings"03:43
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zerozerothe driver03:44
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stdinzerozero: you mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf?03:46
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saylarhey guys03:54
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bohi03:54
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trekdanne!hi | saylar03:54
ubotusaylar: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:54
saylaris anyone of you familiar with lcd4linux?03:54
zerozeroi accidently killed my session03:55
saylari'm  thinking of buying a htpc with a lcd display and want to make sure that the hardware is working with kubuntu03:55
saylarany ideas?03:56
saylaror a hint where to look, besides google? ;)03:56
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chandruHas anyone used compiz-kde with kubuntu feisty?03:58
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bohm, depends on the build in display and the used controller - saylar03:59
chandruI've a problem with compiz-kde on kubuntu.  The window decorations disapper04:00
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_MPS_hi04:00
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saylarbo, i just found the supported hardware section at lcd4linux. that might be helpfull ;)04:00
khalilhello all04:00
khalil:)04:01
saylari'm just an idiot04:01
_MPS_i'm using sim for icq. does anyone know how to tell sim that it doesn't send my internal and external ip?04:01
khalilserver mircirc04:01
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realkrenhi folks04:03
realkrenI newly installed ubuntu04:04
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realkrenand I want to activate the desktop effects! how can I do? anybody can help?04:04
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saylaryou mean beryl/compiz, realkren?04:05
realkrenwhen I click on the desktop effects it says composite extesion is not available04:06
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realkrenyes, saylar04:06
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realkrensaylar, can you help me?04:07
saylarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIGLX#AIGLX_with_AMD_.28ex-ATI.29_Proprietary_Drivers04:07
saylarlook here04:07
realkrenok, thank you04:08
saylarati ist still a royal pain in the ass04:08
saylarpardon my french04:08
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realkrensaylar, I am using ati display card. is it the problem?04:12
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saylaryeah, kind of.04:14
saylarbut i'm not really familiar with that problem, since I have an nvidia card ;)04:15
saylarsorry04:15
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saylarmaybe you should look at the wiki and or ubuntu forum04:16
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realkrenok thanks saylar04:18
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saylarnp04:19
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BorisYaltsinHi, Is there anything special I should know about dual booting vista vs xp?04:21
linuxcrazyok, ok, thinkpad 770 and kubuntu?04:22
setkehhow do i shut slack down it keeps forcing a scan for impropper unmount04:22
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linuxcrazyrecovery mode then run a manual fsck?04:23
setkehO_o04:23
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linuxcrazysorry if thats not right, its early here04:23
ronin_Morning everyone. Anyone have ClamAV experience?04:24
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setkehlinuxcrazy: LOL i logoff and type shutdown and it comes up with a list of all these othe commands and i try them and it dont work \04:24
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linuxcrazyuno momento04:25
setkehok guys im ouut for the night ill catch you all later04:26
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ronin_Does anyone have experience with ClamAV, or Synaptics touchpads?04:27
linuxcrazynothing but good exp with them04:28
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linuxcrazyis the lappy 9000 misbehaving?04:28
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linuxcrazy:)04:28
ronin_Could you help me getting mine working? Last time tried the wiki method for the touchpad, I killed X somehow04:28
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ronin_Did yours have that thing where it thinks its a Wacom?04:31
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linuxcrazy"sudo apt-get install xfree86-driver-synaptics"04:31
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linuxcrazy"sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/synaptics_drv.o /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.o"04:31
linuxcrazyand reboot04:32
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ronin_Will that be cool with ksynaptics, which I have all ready installed (tho not working)04:32
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linuxcrazyit should uninstall the ksynaptics one04:33
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ronin_looking at adept, I all ready have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics.04:35
linuxcrazyif it doesnt automatically uninstall it then apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in the konsole04:35
linuxcrazythis is a workaround04:35
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linuxcrazyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/4797104:38
linuxcrazythere you go ronin04:38
ronin_Ahhhh I seee. Thanks.04:39
linuxcrazyquite welcome04:39
linuxcrazyas far as clamav do apt-get install klamav and itll work great with kubuntu04:40
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ronin_I have both of them clam/Klam installed, but when I try and run the update to get the latest version it tosses me an error saying my C compiler can't make executables or something04:40
linuxcrazy"sudo apt-get install gcc"04:41
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ronin_Strangely enough, I checked that and adept reports it installed.04:41
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linuxcrazysorry I'm on a friends xp box and cant play along with the home game04:42
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ronin_Ahhh its all right. Thanks anyway. I've got a lot of the gcc tools that installed with kubuntu 7.04 installed, so I'm a bit lost.04:43
ronin_Wine finishes updating I'll scan through them...maybe I'm missing one I need?04:44
linuxcrazycould beee try g++ too it wont hurt anything04:44
jhutchins!build04:44
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:44
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Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get install build-essential04:44
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blackinsideCanal for a french language ?04:45
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linuxcrazyrue de la merde?04:45
llutz!fr| blackinside04:46
ubotublackinside: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:46
caravakahi. i suddenly see a lot of blocked requests coming from my machine in the firestarter events.04:46
caravakamostly the services are gatecrasher, mdns, pop3s and igmp04:47
caravakadoes that mean i have a trojan?04:47
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llutzcaravaka: that means, that you have to check what app causes the requests04:49
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caravakallutz: how do i do that?04:49
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bjwebbwhat does the --purge flag for apt-get remove?04:50
llutzcaravaka: use appropriate tools like netstat, lsof, ps etc.04:50
caravakaok shall do04:51
ksivajiman apt04:51
caravakabut what is the gatecrasher protocol? is it a trojan?04:51
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ksivaji!virus04:51
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2104:51
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llutzcaravaka: you are using torrent-software?04:52
caravakayes, i used ktorrent04:52
caravakaactually, it started after i started using ktorrent04:52
llutzgatecrusher is a protocol used in connection with bittorent04:53
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llutzcaravaka: if you don#t know about all that and using p2p-software too, you don't need a (logging) "firewall"04:53
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caravakallutz: are you saying that using p2p software makes me vulnerable? or that i should just ignore those logs because they're harmless?04:55
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llutzcaravaka: if you cannot interprete the "firewall-Logs" the "firewall" is useless, so deinstall it04:56
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llutzcaravaka: p2p-soft always is a security-risk04:56
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Lopin!wireless04:57
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:57
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caravakallutz: ok, i'll learn more about the p2p risks. thanks llutz. for a min there i thought i was hacked or something :)04:57
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llutzcaravaka: learn to configure your system, hold it in an actual state, use security-updates an you don't need any filtering software04:59
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caravakallutz: i always update my system everyday (autoupdate adept). what else should i configure or where can i get more info?05:00
llutzcaravaka: sorry i only know german-sites with more info, but google should show you english sites if you search for05:01
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mcantorI can't view .avi files in Kubuntu 7.04 with VLC, Kaffeine or mplayer.  I've installed all of the appropriate packages and switched to totem-xine from gstreamer.  Why won't it work?05:01
caravakallut: that's ok, i'll try to find some. but what did you mean when you said i should configure my system? configure exactly what? i'll search google for it.05:02
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llutzcaravaka: make sure you're running only services you really need, inform you about risks of used software etc.pp05:03
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caravakallutz: oh ok. i'll do that. i'll try running nmap and see open ports and close what's not needed and stuff. thanks llutz.05:04
emilsedghmcantor: have you installed libxine-extracodecs package too?05:04
mcantoremilsedgh: Yes.05:05
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blueyedHi. Which service is responsible for catching e.g. ALT-F2 or other global shortcuts?05:06
blueyedSeems like I have to restart it.05:07
trekdanneblueyed: kdesktop ?05:08
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emilsedghblueyed: SystemSettings-->computerAdministration->Keyboard shortcuts05:09
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emilsedghblueyed: SystemSettings-->computerAdministration->Keyboard & Mouse->Keyboard shortcuts05:09
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ubuntu_i am an absolute newbie to linux05:10
ubuntu_someone please help me05:10
trekdanneubuntu_: what do you need help with?05:10
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koko1710erm....05:10
koko1710how to install flash in firefox?05:10
koko1710that one still boggles me so much!05:10
mcantorAnyone?  Why can't I watch .avi files?05:11
blueyedkoko1710: install flashplugin-nonfree05:11
koko1710where to download flash-plugin nonfree?05:11
trekdanneK Menu -> Add/Remove Programs05:11
llutzkoko1710:sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree05:11
emilsedghkoko1710: From Adept Package Manager05:11
koko1710that's all? so simple?05:12
emilsedghhaha05:12
blueyedemilsedgh: I know where to configure them, but the problem is: alt-f2 and e.g. win-t (for new konsole) do not work anymore.05:12
koko1710okay, i will try it out05:12
koko1710thanks to you guys, i really appreciate it05:12
trekdanneblueyed: not kdesktop then ?05:12
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emilsedghblueyed: this happened to me once, one of The Keyboards extra buttons were enabled, I dunno what was its name...your keyboard has some extra lights and buttons? try turning them on and off, maybe this will help05:13
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drkfceI like how the windows key allows for a boatload of customizable shortcuts05:14
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blueyedtrekdanne: I've killed and restarted the process: alt-f2 now works, win-t (a custom global shortcut) still does not.05:15
blueyedbut alt-f2 is fine for now and with a re-login it would be fixed probably anyway.05:15
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blueyedemilsedgh: I have a MS Natural Ergonomic keyboard and it has some function key switcher, but that's not related to the windows key.05:16
emilsedghblueyed: dunno, sorry05:16
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blueyedIt helped to re-assign the same global shortcut now to "Konsole" and apply the settings in "keyboard shortcut" settings.05:19
blueyedNow win-k for konqueror also works again.05:19
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Kimppahello. Can someone please recommend an audio recorder for kubuntu?05:27
arunKimppa: audacity05:27
arun!audacity05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
arun!info audacity05:27
blueyedmcantor: maybe you're missing some codecs (for your .avi files)..05:28
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2032 kB, installed size 6016 kB05:28
arunKimppa: ^05:28
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Kimppaarun: thanks, installed it05:28
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DaSkreechthere was a simpler option05:33
DaSkreechdarned if I can recall the name now though :)05:34
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Kimppaok, the second question is why won't audacity record anything although skype will?05:37
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Ahmuck!grub05:39
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:39
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emilsedgh!krecord05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about krecord - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
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ksivaji!info audacity05:42
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2032 kB, installed size 6016 kB05:42
ganguianoHi all05:42
ganguianoAnyone knows how can I rename a shortcut in the desktop of KDE05:43
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ganguianoin Kubuntu05:43
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vsudilovanyone know how to remap pressing the middle mouse button to running an application?05:48
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DrHalanhey how can i set my computer to automatically connect to my wireless network?05:49
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nosrednaekimDrHalan: you put the ESSID in the /etc/netowork/interfaces file under your device05:50
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nosrednaekim*network05:50
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emilsedgh!info krecord05:51
ubotukrecord: KDE sound recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16-3 (feisty), package size 66 kB, installed size 308 kB05:51
trekdannehi people i'm back05:51
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trekdanneso what's up everyone?05:55
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m1shaanyone home?05:57
Hobbseeno05:57
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m1shalol05:58
nosrednaekimno, so go away! there are 346 people here and we are all sleeping :)05:58
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nosrednaekimall 345 people wake up and shout for m1sha to some back05:59
m1sha:D so anyone know about installing dvd drives?06:00
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nosrednaekimhardware-wise or drivers?06:01
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m1shadrivers, I have it plugged in and all06:02
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m1shabut kInfoCentre reports it as being a cd drive06:03
nosrednaekimm1sha: does it play dvds?06:04
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lucas_hi, still no support for multiple audio device in kubuntu ?06:08
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m1shanosrednaekim: nope, it just does nothing and doesn't mount it. It had a fit when I put in a blank dvd06:09
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m1shanosrednaekim: oh god do I feel stupid, I puy the wrong drive in!06:09
nosrednaekimoh rely?06:09
nosrednaekimhaha06:10
m1shaya rly06:10
m1shathanks anyway!06:10
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blueyedRegarding the global shortcuts: may those have been "overwritten" (internally) due to a package update? (I'm on Gutsy)06:12
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nosrednaekimblueyed: if youa re on gutsy... anything can happen ;)06:13
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blueyedsure :) But the same may happen to people upgrading to Gutsy then :D06:13
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nosrednaekimsee if there is a bug report06:14
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nosrednaekimif there isn't.... go to #kubuntu-devel06:14
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douglI just installed kubuntu 7.0.4 on my hd hooked up as slave on ide1 but... will boot when only slave and master (dvd as primary on ide1 bus) but when I hook up master and slave on ide0 bus machine hangs on boot... any suggestions?06:20
nosrednaekimI don't even know how all that IDE stuff works...06:21
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nosrednaekimthe HD might be named differently......06:22
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soulrider!software06:30
ubotuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents06:30
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ronin_Hmmm... does anyone know if album art images can be embedded in FLAC files?06:34
martijn81no idea06:35
nosrednaekimI doubt it...06:35
SlimG2ronin_: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t32703.html06:36
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ronin_Thanks Slim,  Nos.06:39
ronin_Bah. Well, I'm sure Amarok is just fine reading them from folder then.06:40
ronin_Now for the hard question.  Is there an easy way to encode Apple Lossless from FLAC? iPhone won't play well with FLAC yet >>;06:41
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ronin_Or for that matter, a wave > Apple Lossless06:41
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ronin_Googling has few results, and nothing I've seen for linux. Though I'd take a WinXp way to do it too at this point.06:42
arundo what06:43
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stdinronin_: doesn't apple use aac?06:43
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stdingiuseppe_: ??06:44
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ronin_stdin: They do. Just I'd like to maintain my lossless FLAC quality, as opposed to lossy AAC06:44
ronin_I believe it goes by ALE for the apple lossles encoder06:44
stdinronin_: do you know what the codec apple uses it called?06:45
Assidyo stdin06:45
stdinhey Assid06:45
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Assidstdin: my stupid compiz died again :(06:46
stdinI was waiting for you to say that... :p06:46
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ronin_Not sure. I always hear it referred to as ALE or ALAC06:46
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nosrednaekimI thought it was AAC?06:47
stdinronin_: looks like there's only an decoder, not an encoder (that I can find)06:48
ronin_stdin: I'll install it anyway. Amarok should use it, right?  At least I'll be able to play them06:48
Assidhaha..06:49
Assidstdin: i dont know what to do man..  totally confuse06:49
Assidd06:49
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marokciaoooooo06:50
stdin!info alac-decoder06:50
ubotualac-decoder: Apple Lossless audio codec decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 60 kB06:50
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stdinAssid: I'm no graphics guru, they all hangout in -effects06:50
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ronin_Thanks again Stdin. Are you an op here by the way? I'm used to the mirc method of designatinng ops with red text. Is it the same in Konversation?06:51
stdinronin_: no, the red text is because I said your nick name06:52
stdinno red text <06:52
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ronin_Nifty. Thanks.06:52
stdin:)06:52
SlimG2Is it possible to write a script for Konqueror, so everytime I visit ex. verycoolurl.com the banner would disappear?06:53
pagSlimG2, you mean like adblock?06:53
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nosrednaekimSlimG2: konqueror has that built in... lemme check where it is..06:54
pagright click the image -> block this image?06:54
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nosrednaekimyep, that should do it!06:57
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emilsedghand such scripts will be available in KDE4, Konqueror will support user scripts06:57
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SlimG2pag: well, It would work the same way, but allow me to change how a specific site is beein rendered in konqueror thru a script07:01
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vsudilovanyone ever have trouble with KHotkeys or Kgestures?07:04
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nosrednaekimvsudilov: always worked for me07:06
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SlimG2ex. When I visit ex. forum.org, a script would be triggered that run "sed" on the sourcode and makes konqueror display it's result instead07:07
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vsudilovWhen you define a gesture/hotkey to have a 'keyboard input', clicking on "Modify" doesn't do anything. I can manually type the key into the box, but combination of keys (eg, alt+M) do not work..07:07
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ronin_iTunes is a huge pain in the ass >>;07:13
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stdinthat's why I don't use it07:14
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ronin_Wish I had that option. AmaroK is much better.07:15
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ronin_Can't wait until they come out with a decent iPhone application.07:16
ronin_Though nobody has one of those yet...on any platform, I don't think07:16
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gabriel_tem algum br ai?07:19
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stdin!br07:20
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.07:20
jhutchins_ltronin_: So iPhone doesn't sync with Amarok - yet?07:20
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ronin_jhutchins_It: Afraid not. It really doesn't sync with anything. Even on Windows, it won't play nice with anything that normally iPods work with, like Winamp or MediaMonkey07:21
ronin_Plugging it in on Kubuntu detects as a camera, andwon't even charge it over USB07:21
ronin_I think its a totally different architecture somehow.07:22
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darrylHey guys, question - I am running edgy right now, and am ready to upgrade.  Should I use the upgrade utility or do a fresh install?07:23
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h4xc0rHEY guys07:23
ronin_Hiya H4xc0r07:24
jhutchins_ltronin_: Well, yeah, that's the idea.  It'll take a while, but they're allready hacking the internals.07:24
stdindarryl: to get to feisty?07:24
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jhutchins_ltdarryl: Fresh install is always an option, so go ahead and try the upgrade.07:24
darrylstdin: yep :)07:25
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stdin!upgrade07:25
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)07:25
vsudilovnosrednaekim: do you mind making a mouse gesture (call it TEST) with KGestures (hold right click, move down, release) that maps to Alt+M, and pasteing your $KDEHOME/share/config/khotkeysrc to a pastebin for me?07:25
ronin_Such I hear. There's a file browser for it now, not sure if its on windows yet but I know it does on a mac. Hope they hack it out pretty soon.07:25
ronin_Wish I could help07:25
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ronin_Its a great phone, I just don't like doing things "the apple way" all the time07:25
darrylstdin: Yea i just wondered if fresh install is always better or if the upgrades work well07:25
nosrednaekimvsudilov: sorry, you cuaght me as I was just leaving..07:26
darrylstdin: this will be my first time to upgrade - so just not sure whats best, and worked well for most people07:26
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stdindarryl: you only need to do a fresh install if the upgrade fails, I have a PC that's gone from dapper > edgy > feisty (and soon to gutsy)07:27
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vsudilovnosrednaekim: all right, thanks anyways07:27
ronin_Thanks for your help again guys. I'll be back later.07:27
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darrylstdin: Just to be sure - how can I see my exact version of Ubuntu?  I belive its breezy07:27
stdin!version07:28
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell07:28
darrylthanks :)07:28
darrylEdgy 6.10 it is07:28
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vsudilovcould someone help me with creating mouse gestures with KGestures? Seems button combinations associated with mouse gestures only work in Konquerer...07:32
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ShaneNHello07:38
stdinhello ShaneN07:38
ShaneNIs it possible to get SPDIF working?07:38
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ShaneNGoogle isn't being very helpful07:38
jhutchins_ltShaneN: It would depend on the chipset you're using.07:39
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ShaneNIts an Intel board, do they usually have the same audio chipset?07:41
pekujaIntel has a bunch of different chipsets I think.07:41
jhutchins_ltShaneN: No telling.07:41
stdinlspci may tell you07:41
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ShaneNIntel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)07:42
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ShaneNThen alsamixer shows SigmaTel STAC9220D/9223D A207:45
ShaneN:confused:07:45
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sebsebsebworth trying this channel as well:  How do I delete stuff from the Ubuntu/Gnome menu?07:54
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DragnslcrProbably be better off asking in #ubuntu. Mostly KDE users here07:56
Dr_willisTheres several menu-editor tools/programs you woulduse.07:57
Dr_willisor you can learn how the menu is created and alter/edit the various .desktop files yourself07:57
Dr_willis!menu07:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about menu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:57
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Dr_willisalacarte i think is the name of one tool07:57
Dr_willisbyeeeeeeeeeeee07:57
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emilsedghguys, Im loving ubotu, could someone tell me where could I find it? to run it on another channel...08:00
jhutchins!bot08:00
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:00
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stdinemilsedgh: also talk to the people in #ubuntu-bots08:00
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emilsedghthanks stdin08:03
jacqueshi there08:03
DragnslcrAnyone have any suggestions on brands of portable music players that are Linux friendly?08:03
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jacquesDragnlcr: I am using a Gateway computer and I have no problem08:05
stdinjacques: that wasn't the question08:05
jacqueswhat is the question?08:06
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emilsedghDragnslcr: I think Samsung players has OGG support08:06
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stdinjacques: "....brands of portable music players that are Linux friendly"08:07
jacquesoh08:07
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LynoureTrekstore Vibez is linuxfriendly to boot, and plays ogg and flac08:08
viktorhow to install latest kernel on kubuntu feisty ?08:08
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stdinviktor: what kernel do you want? and why?08:08
jhutchinsWhere are the md5sums of the downloadable images?08:08
stdinjhutchins: in the md5sums file on the servers08:08
LynoureDragnslcr: I was just about to write a review on it, but I can msg you with my opinions, if you want them08:09
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viktorstdin: i have amilo L1310g laptop and the default kernel 2.6.20-15 has a problem with overheating08:09
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stdinviktor: and you are sure that the newer kernel fixes that?08:10
viktorstdin: this bug is fixed in 2.6.2208:10
viktorstdin: yes08:10
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nosrednaekimviktor: there are tutorials for upgrading to the gutsy kernel08:10
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viktorstdin: i tested gutsy and it works fine08:11
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stdinviktor: but you don't want to use gutsy yet i guess?08:11
clientehi!08:11
stdinviktor: ok, try <http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-upgrade-kernel2622-9-generic-in-feisty-fawn.html>08:12
viktorstdin: yes so i decidet to use feisty but with new kernel08:12
stdintry that link out08:12
viktorstdin: tnx man08:12
stdin:)08:12
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sayershi08:13
sayerswhat in the world does hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 mean when I try to mount my other HDD?08:14
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stdinsayers: how are you trying to mount it?08:16
sayersstdin: just through the graphical mount tool in KDE tribe 4. It worked on Ubuntu so I know the HDD works :) , maybe these 80+ updates will fix the problem08:16
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LynoureDragnslcr: I guess that is a "no thanks" but let me know if you change your mind :)08:18
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DragnslcrLynoure- heh, sorry, was grabbing some food08:20
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bluevHey people08:20
bluevI was wondering08:20
nosrednaekimsayers: it means that you can't automaount as you(the normal user) I think08:20
bluevAnyone techy here?08:21
nosrednaekimeveryone!08:21
bluevLol, i was wondering, is theere a way to emulate the netbios ipx in red alert 208:21
bluevcause i wana switch to linux but play games also (linux faster os)08:21
nosrednaekimbluev: you tried out Wine?08:21
bluevOFc08:22
bluevIt works in wine08:22
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bluevBut netbios ipx is a protocol that windows has08:22
bluevI need to know if i can emulate it to play online08:22
bluevRA2 is very old08:22
bluevAlso08:22
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bluevCould someone show me some of the kubuntu interfaces08:22
stdinbluev: ipx is in linux too, the module "ipx" loads it08:22
bluevi wana see what some of the modded interfaces look like08:22
stdinifconfig shows the interfaces08:23
jacqueshi there08:23
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bluevifconfig08:23
bluev?08:23
bluevo08:23
bluevno08:23
bluevi mean desktop mods08:23
jacquesI am going to buy a computer to install ubuntu for gis purpose08:23
bluevSo you have the default KDE install, but some people mod08:23
bluevthe way it looks08:23
bluevby default isnt amazing, anyone got any pics of there or a plae where i could find pics08:23
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runleveltenNobody uses the default KDE.08:24
jacquesI am hesitating between an apple computer or intel08:24
elite101Well i just read a whole bunch on making linux clusters and i think im ready to start the learning exp. lol i just need some old P3's that are 500Mhz perferably Dell optiplex laydown PC's08:24
runleveltenYou're not supposed to.08:24
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stdinbluev: www.kde-look.org08:24
jacquescan someone advise me?08:24
elite101i use default KDE look?08:24
bluevAhh ok08:24
sayershm08:24
runleveltenjacques: first piece of advice, an apple is an intel machine.08:24
sayersokay my hdd still doesnt mount08:24
bluevKnow08:24
bluevheres another thing08:24
runleveltenunless you buy some second hand old one from the ppc or motorola days08:25
bluevAnyone played BF2 or Muonline on wine or cedega?08:25
jacquesno I am thinking of an ibook08:25
elite101BF2?08:25
elite101battle front 2?08:25
bluevBattlefield 208:25
elite101thought so08:25
sayersyes it works08:25
nosrednaekimjacqeues: buy a non-Mac, it will be chaper for the same hardware08:25
elite101i was just going to say that08:25
runleveltenapparently it can be done. Don't play it myself though, so second hand info08:25
jacquesbecause I found that when I want to process my images the computer become very slow08:25
bluevRight, so battlefield 2 runs?08:26
jacquesand I have been told that apple computers are graphic good08:26
runleveltenReputedly, yeah.08:26
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bluevAlso, Muonline, has anyone even tried that?08:26
bluev(rare game)08:26
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runleveltenbluev: never heard of it I'm afraid. You can look on appdb.winehq.org when you want to find info on whether an app runs on wine.08:27
stdinjacques: you'll probably find life easier on an intel (based) PC than an Mac08:27
Assidyoza runlevelten, stdin08:28
runleveltenWell, not every app ever is covered, but most you might want if someone's tried it, heh08:28
Assidstdin: why would you think that.. mac is pretty sweet08:28
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bluevRight, does anyone have any "heavy" games they run in linux?08:28
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runleveltendefine heavy.08:28
bluevDemanding08:28
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stdinAssid: ther's better hardware support for PCs than Macs for one08:28
runleveltenHL2's fine, that's about the heaviest game I have, apart from Oblivion, which would run except I'm a sucker and have an ATi card.08:29
Assidbluev: you could try unreal tournament.. or quake08:29
bluevHmm08:29
Assidoblivion on linux?08:29
bluevThat was my next question08:29
bluevany h08:29
bluevany good free native games fro linux?08:29
bluevIve tried AA but didnt like that08:29
bluevAnd enemy terriroty08:29
runleveltenUnless, you're a sucker who gave ATi your money :( like me08:29
stdin!games | bluev08:29
ubotubluev: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org08:29
runleveltenTrue Combat Elite08:29
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bluevLast question08:30
runleveltenPenumbra, UT2kx, Enemy Territory, All the quakes to date, et cetera08:30
bluevahh08:30
bluevquake arena is free?08:30
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Assidrunlevelten: know anything like regular civilization?08:30
runleveltenThere are a lot of native games if you know where to look.08:30
Assidnot freeciv .. the gfx needs an upgrade08:30
nosrednaekimbluev: try saurbraten... heavy enough that my graphics car can't handle it ;)08:31
runleveltenHaven't played it for years. Freeciv ng is great but is a network game and a network game only, tbh.08:31
runleveltensauerbraten sucks a bit though08:31
runleveltensauerbraten is a bit like nexuiz.08:31
Assidnexuiz?08:31
runleveltenYou want TC:E, ET, Q3 and 4, tremulous and warsow (latest build) for a start.08:32
elite101TC:e?08:32
elite101whats that?08:32
bluevOki doki08:32
bluevQuake is free?08:32
runleveltenNo, quake is not free08:38
elite101a good game is F.E.A.R08:38
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runleveltenThe engine is Free, the game isn't free.08:38
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Assidhrmm08:38
bluevFEAR runs ok linux loool?08:38
elite101no08:38
elite101im not sure08:38
elite101lol08:38
bluevWasgona say08:38
elite101i kinda doubt it08:38
bluevthats some heavy cpu usage08:38
Assidi need a shower..08:38
elite101but its a good goood game08:38
runleveltenNever tried it. You need games programmers play, ahaha.08:38
elite101yeah08:38
elite101very very heavy game08:38
runleveltenSo every quake and half-life game is assured of coverage.08:38
runleveltenheh08:38
elite101i have seen ppl on youtube get HALO1 trial version on linux but do u think H2 will work on linux using wine?08:38
Lynourebluev: A Tale in the Desert exists for Linux, it's a quite unusual multiplayer online game08:38
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bluevyeah08:38
bluevYou guys pwn08:38
runleveltenHalo...08:38
elite101lol08:38
nosrednaekimelite101: it will indeed..08:38
bluevAlso, heres some specs of what i have08:38
elite101perfect08:38
runleveltenPrefer it on a console, tbh.08:38
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runleveltenIf at all.08:38
elite101now i have to go from AGP8mb to AGP 320Mb 880008:38
nosrednaekimelite101: oh wait... I was thinking half-life08:38
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elite101ohh lol08:38
elite101:(08:38
bluevamd 4600+ dual core, 1gig ram, 7600gt, 120gb 7200rpm, that enough to run games in wine?08:38
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nosrednaekimbluev: oh yeah...08:38
elite101only 1gb ram xD08:38
nosrednaekimI would say so08:38
elite101u should get 208:38
bluevYeah i will08:38
elite101:)08:38
bluevBut its expensive08:38
elite101there pretty cheap08:38
bluevThe other stuff has cost me alot anyways08:38
elite101only a 1gb stickl is like what 70$?08:38
bluevNow ill upgrade that next08:38
runleveltenYep. And you have an nvidia, so you're invited to the party.08:38
elite101lol08:38
bluevNo its not08:38
bluevLol08:38
elite101i have only 292Mb ram :(08:38
bluev1gig 140 dollars08:38
nosrednaekim1GB is like 4008:38
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elite101lol im from canada08:38
elite101sp08:38
bluevLol08:38
elite101so*08:38
elite101yeah08:38
bluevAMD, whats wrong with them08:38
elite101HeAt08:38
nosrednaekimwhat AMD announcement?08:38
elite101:P08:38
runleveltenNothing, except the poor gits own ATi :(08:38
stdin!offtopic08:38
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:38
sayersAMD is good. just run the x_86 version08:38
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Assidi got like 1.5GB ram08:38
elite101when u get AMD u will get M-A-D08:38
Assidand 1/2 of it is going waste08:38
bluevahh hthis was my next08:38
Assidwish the video card can use some of my normal ram08:38
elite101yeah08:38
elite101that would be sick08:38
runleveltenNothing wrong with AMD at all.08:38
elite101i wish08:38
stdinfor non support related discussion use #kubuntu-offtopic08:38
bluevfor amd 4600+ dual core i know i need 64 but is 86 MUCH worse? compatibility is beter with 86?08:38
nosrednaekimAMD and HEAT? umm no.... thats one problem they DO NOT have08:38
elite101i have intel pentium 3 xeon x8608:38
elite101lol im olddd...08:38
stdinbluev: you don't have to run a 64bit OS on an 64bit cpu08:38
elite101in hardware*08:38
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runleveltenbluev: You'll experience better compatibility with 32 bit stuff, yes.08:38
bluevYeah i know08:38
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bluevBut is there a MAJOR advantage of 64?08:38
stdinno08:38
elite101is there such thing as 64bit graphics?08:38
elite101or 12808:38
bluevWhy make it then?08:38
runleveltenFor desktop use... not massively.08:38
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stdinnot unless you have 4+GB RAM08:39
runleveltenbluev: do you transcode a lot of video or other similar tasks?08:39
runleveltenthen it's an advantage08:39
bluevUrm, i will be doing a little bit of video encoding08:39
bluevBut alot of gaming?08:39
stdinmath intensive tasks get about a 30% boost in 64bit08:39
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bluevHmm08:40
bluevright heres my sit08:40
bluevI want a well customised desktop, lite and fast, for gaming and torrenting, and some converting?08:40
bluevWhat spec?08:40
bluev64 or 8608:40
nosrednaekimx_8608:40
runleveltenwhat for the actual hardware? 64.08:40
elite101x108:40
elite101xD08:40
stdingaming? x86 for sure08:40
bluevWhy's that?08:40
elite101the number is bigger08:41
elite101:)08:41
nosrednaekimfor the OS of course, all modern hardware is 64but.08:41
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nosrednaekim*64-bit08:41
stdinbluev: if you want to use wine, you'll make your life much easier with 32bit08:41
bluevOk08:41
kirelhello everyone08:41
bluevThen its settled08:41
bluevIll be back soon ~:08:41
nosrednaekimhello08:41
bluevjust gona install it :d08:41
runleveltenenjoy, nosrednaekim08:41
kirelanyone else here running ubuntu from ibook?08:41
nosrednaekimrunlevelten: what?08:42
elite101is kubuntu 64-86 compatiable so it can run on both no problem?08:42
stdinwine is 32bit only, you have to mess around with it to even get it to run08:42
runleveltenoops.08:42
runleveltenenjoy bluev08:42
nosrednaekimlol08:42
runleveltenheh08:42
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nosrednaekimbluev: have fun08:42
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bluevlol08:42
elite101lol dont be a wiNer08:43
elite101be a winner08:43
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chris_how do I restart alsa? /etc/init.d/alsasound doesn't exist..08:43
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kireli just use crossover instead of wine, alot better at handling windows fonts for alot of windows apps08:44
elite101i didnt know this but "top" is a command to see system prosses running in Konsole and what CPU usage they use, u can use this command in MAC too08:44
nosrednaekimchris_: alsa-utils08:44
stdinelite101: top is an old unix command, it's been around for ever :p08:44
nosrednaekimkirel: why, do you have a problem?08:44
elite101lol08:45
runleveltenCrossover's a great augmentation of wine. Muchly recommended for end users, with the caveat that it provides them with a tool, not seamless support.08:45
elite101well i found out about it like 2days ago08:45
chris_nosrednaekim: thanks08:45
stdinelite101: there's a GUI too you know08:45
elite101i know08:45
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stdingood :)08:45
nosrednaekimchris_: not sure if that REALLY restarts alsa, but its the only one in init.d08:45
elite101Konsole looks better08:45
elite101looks more intelligent08:46
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kireli have a problem with the ppc version of ubuntu, i want to use gnome, but is inpossible on an ibook as all the applets crash straight from the word go so i am in kde instead, was just wondering if there was a work around for this08:46
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elite101i thought Gnome sucked?08:46
kireli prefer gnome to kde08:46
nosrednaekimkirel: go to #ubuntu for problems with gnome08:46
elite101i like KDE better08:46
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elite101but i have used Gnome08:47
nosrednaekimok, stop it..08:47
kirelkde is good at looking sexy08:47
runleveltenkirel: If your purposes is working around all the bugs in Gnome, then this probably isn't the best place to get support for that.08:47
nosrednaekimit doesn't mater08:47
elite101whats up with him?08:47
kirelyea i know just saw which room it whacked me into, opps, lol#08:47
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runleveltens/purpose/purposes/08:48
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runleveltenother way around :|08:48
elite101omg why is there so many ppl connecting disconnecting in here? it wasnt like this b4 man its annyoing08:48
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elite101STOP CONNECTING....08:48
nosrednaekimelite101: I turn off log in and log off messages08:48
elite101how?08:48
elite101i need them badly off08:48
nosrednaekimelite101: you using konversation?08:48
kirelbecause most of them are most prob new to ubuntu and wondering what konversation is , and it just logs you in straight away08:49
elite101its insane watching this08:49
elite101yeah08:49
elite101konverstaion*08:49
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stdinelite101: settings > chat window, Hide Join/Part08:49
nosrednaekimconfigure konversation-> behavior->chat window-> hide join-part08:50
elite101i dont have that?08:50
kirelclick settings, then notifcation and it will bring up new window, disable nick joing and nick leaving08:50
elite101duhh im dumb08:51
elite101yeah i got it08:51
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elite101hey have any of u ever used Xlink kai?08:56
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elite101or XBC/xbox connect?08:57
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elite101well the program lets me use gamming consoles online but there is a linux version (tarball) and i open it with ark but there  is only 2 files in the tar. and its a Kaid file and a Kaid.conf how do i use these? they need root permisions08:59
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stdinelite101: open konsole, cd to the directory and do ./Kaid ?09:00
elite101oka09:00
elite101but09:00
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elite101./kaid?09:00
elite101its on my desktop09:00
elite101there extracted09:00
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elite101but im new to instaliing these things09:01
bjwebbwhy would my kubuntu install not have the default kubuntu theme?09:01
stdinelite101: cd Desktop09:01
stdinelite101: ./kaid09:01
elite101whats that?09:01
stdinelite101: cd = change directory09:01
elite101no such file09:01
elite101ic09:01
stdinbjwebb: how did you install kubuntu?09:01
bjwebbnormal live cd09:01
bjwebbit was ages ago09:02
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bjwebbwell as few months09:02
stdinbjwebb: how do you know it's not the default theme then?09:02
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soulrider!ati09:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:02
elite101well it still says unknown file directory09:02
stdinelite101: case sensitive09:03
elite101its in a folder09:03
stdincd to that folder then09:03
bjwebbstdin: because i know it looks like09:03
elite101so do i have to type tjat out too like /home/elite101/desktop/*folder*/kaid ?09:03
bjwebbcould it be because the install failed near the end?09:03
stdinelite101: no, it starts out in /home/elite101 , so cd Desktop/foldername09:04
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stdinelite101: again CAse SEnSitIve09:04
elite101cd?09:04
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stdinbjwebb: what do you mean it failed?09:04
elite101change what directory?09:04
stdinelite101: what is the directory called on the desktop?09:05
elite101i have it like this09:05
elite101opps09:05
elite1011/home/elite101/desktop/folder/kaid09:05
elite101without the 109:05
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elite101the folder is named...folder09:05
elite101lol09:05
elite101wait09:05
elite101do u need it in the .tar09:05
stdinelite101: Desktop has an upper-case D09:05
elite101or u have to have it extracted?09:05
elite101ic09:05
elite101lol09:06
stdinelite101: just do "cd Desktop/folder"09:06
elite101so like this home/elite101/cd Desktop/folder/kaid09:06
elite101nvm09:06
elite101i got it09:06
elite101it says09:06
elite101KAID: You're not root, sorry...09:07
aguitelhello09:07
elite101so i need to run on root09:07
elite101but how09:07
stdinelite101: ok do "sudo ./kaid"09:07
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elite101okay09:07
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aguitelhow i see video divx in kubuntu?09:07
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nosrednaekim!divx09:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:07
saylarhey guys09:07
nosrednaekimaguitel: there is a package for it... justa  sec09:07
aguitelok09:07
elite101KAID: Config file '/etc/kaid.conf' not found...09:08
elite101but its there?09:08
stdinelite101: no /etc/kaid.conf isn't09:08
stdinelite101: move kaid.conf to /etc09:08
saylaris there a way to start konsole in a way that it automatically starts with a command. i want to define a hotkey that starts konsole and then does a ssh servername.com09:08
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elite101ohh ic'09:08
nosrednaekimaguitel: avifile-divx-plugin09:08
saylarcouldn't find anything in the manpage09:09
aguitelit work with kafeine?09:09
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AloBlumenauhow open file as root with konqueror?09:09
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nosrednaekimaguitel: yeah09:09
nosrednaekimAloBlumenau: start konqueror as root "kdesu konqueror"09:10
aguitelit say invalid operation09:10
AloBlumenauhow?09:10
AloBlumenauI clicked on icon09:10
stdinsaylar: konsole -e command09:10
saylarah, that simple *g*09:10
saylarthx stdin09:10
stdin:)09:10
nosrednaekimaguitel: thats a package... get it useing "sudo apt-get install avifile-divx-plugin"09:11
saylarworks, great09:11
aguitelok09:11
Assidkafeine plays it fine09:11
Assidi gotta learn how to encode divx on linux09:11
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stdinffmpeg and mencoder can do that09:12
aguitelnosrednaekim ,what about the codecs ? i09:13
nosrednaekimwhat do you mean?09:13
nosrednaekimdid you install that command?09:13
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aguitelit not playng09:13
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aguitelyes it install09:14
kirelsays the divx package is not there09:14
aguitelto play xvid what i need?09:14
elite101im getting an error while trying to write to /etc/kaid.conf it wont let me it says access denied09:14
stdinelite101: you know you need sudo...09:15
elite101it wont let me rite content to the harddrive?09:15
elite101i cant change the hdd to view and rtie content only view?09:15
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elite101how do i use sudo to do that?09:15
aguitelnosrednaekim, what i need to play xvid?09:16
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stdinelite101: sudo cp kaid.conf /etc09:16
elite101in konsole?09:16
nosrednaekimxvid? I thought you said divx09:16
stdinelite101: yep09:16
Assidstdin: any clue if mencoder uses multi threading?09:16
aguiteli was wrong09:16
elite101lol xvid backwards is divx09:16
elite101why is that?09:16
elite101xvid-divx09:17
nosrednaekimaguitel: ah, well, just a sec09:17
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aguitelok09:17
elite101cp: cannot stat `kaid.conf': No such file or directory09:17
elite101?09:17
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stdinAssid: I'm not sure09:17
elite101stdin, it says cp: cannot stat `kaid.conf': No such file or directory09:17
stdinelite101: from the ~/Desktop/folder/ directory09:18
nosrednaekimaguitel: get  avifile-xvid-plugin09:18
ijuzmplayer uses ffmpeg and this is partly multithreaded09:18
elite101sorry im very dumb i didnt uderstand so i have to rite out where it is?09:18
Assidstdin: besides mencoder.. do i need anything else?09:18
stdinAssid: don't think so, mencoder is the daddy of encoders :p09:18
Assidno addl codecs?09:19
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stdinelite101: you can do "sudo cp ~/Desktop/folder/kaid.conf /etc" too09:19
elite101lol k09:20
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elite101i did that09:20
elite101and nothing happend09:20
cloakableIt worked, then09:20
elite101k09:20
elite101thoughtso09:20
elite101i thought maybe something was supposed to come up09:20
stdinAssid: 'mencoder -oac help' and 'mencoder -ovc help" list all the available codecs09:21
aguitelnosrednaekim ,i install fine but i cannot play some movieDVDRip.Xvid09:21
Assidive always wondered if encoding on linux would be any quicker than the windows counterpart.. specially taking into consideration divx is supported officially by divx labs on that09:21
stdinelite101: no putput normally means no error09:21
aguitelnosrednaekim,is something else that i need?09:21
nosrednaekimaguitel: I don't know...09:21
elite101lol thanx for ur help im going to rite a tutorial for this :)09:21
nosrednaekimaguitel: I have no clue.... that file worked for me09:22
elite101i wish it was a GUI09:22
darkrulerive typed in sudo apt-get install j2rel.4 and it asks me for a password, but wont let me type in mine09:22
Assidstdin: no divx there :(09:22
stdindarkruler: won't let you how?09:22
elite101if i copy the kaid.conf to /etc should i delete it in the folder on my desktop or no?09:22
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stdinelite101: up to you09:23
darkrulerit wont let me input09:23
elite101k09:23
elite101lol i wont09:23
elite101since i have it working now09:23
elite101i dont wanna screw something up09:23
elite101:)09:23
stdindarkruler: it won't echo it back, but it is reading it09:23
darkrulerok09:23
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darkruleryah, that worked09:24
stdinAssid: divx is mpeg409:25
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stdinAssid: you use "-ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4"09:25
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darkrulerHow do I run a .jnlp file?09:27
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Assidhrmm k09:28
parsnipdarkruler: does it open with the java webstart?09:28
Assidwill play with it when i gotta encode something09:28
stdindarkruler: you need to have java installed and do "javaws file.jnlp"09:28
parsnipdarkruler: In internet in your k menu09:28
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ubuntu_hgdskh09:28
stdinubuntu_: ?09:29
bluevapourHey people09:29
bluevapourIts bluev09:29
ubuntu_ubuntu09:29
bluevapourIve installed kubuntu09:29
bluevapourNow i have a problem09:29
elite101what does this mean? KAID: Failed to create UI socket...09:29
parsnipstdin: hi man, I got my konqueror sorted, changed the default run to knoqueror and not copy/paste the konqueror shortcut in nthe k menu09:29
elite101what is a UI socket?09:29
bluevapourWhen i update all packages etc with adept, my cd drive doesnt work?09:29
bluevapourThat common?09:29
darkrulerits says javaws is not installed.09:30
bluevapour?09:30
darkruleri try to install it, but it says package not found09:30
parsnipdarkruler: sudo apt-get install javaws09:30
stdin!java | darkruler09:30
ubotudarkruler: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.09:30
parsnipdarkruler: you could get easyubuntu too09:31
bluevapourPeople, does anyone else have a problem with cd drive after updating all in adept?09:31
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stdinparsnip, darkruler:  NO DON'T09:31
parsnipbluevapour: what happens when you put a cd in your drive?09:31
elite101what is a UI socket?09:31
bluevapourNothing09:32
bluevapourI cant open my drive09:32
bluevapourEven with right click ejecting09:32
stdinelite101: if it's not working then report that to the people who make it09:32
elite101k09:32
elite101cuz they did a louwsey job09:32
bluevapourIs this problem common Parsnip?09:32
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parsnipbluevapour: not seen it myself09:34
parsnipbluevapour: you tried another cd drive?09:34
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bluevapourNo i think it may be the drie09:34
bluevapourbtw how do i do a full update09:34
parsnipbluevapour: i'm googling09:34
bluevapourof all my packages that can be upgradede09:34
stdinbluevapour: either use Adept, or "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"09:35
bluevapourty stdin09:36
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saylari guess you already know, but i'd like to point out how much *ubuntu rocks09:51
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chovy_how do i enable screensavers?09:52
chovy_!sudo screensaver | chovy09:52
bluevapourHey wats the command line to eject CD?09:53
chovy_eject09:53
ijuzeject ?09:53
bluevapourliterally?09:53
chovy_reject09:53
chovy_heh09:53
chovy_j/k09:53
bluevapourwhat is it then09:53
Wiggleshow can i set beryl-manager to load as my default window manager instead of kwin?09:54
ijuzit's eject, why don't you just try it?09:54
bluevapourDoesnt do anything09:54
stdin!autostart | Wiggles09:54
bluevapourJust freezes09:54
ubotuWiggles: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.09:54
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chovy_bluevapour: gi;ve it a second09:54
aguitelhow i know my video card ?09:54
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bluevapourWhen i update using adept, cd drive stops working09:54
chovy_has anyone got a screensaver to work on Kubuntu?09:54
Wigglesif i do that, isn't kwin loading up and then being killed by beryl?09:55
bluevapour1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1509:55
bluevapourshouldnt take this long09:55
bluevapournothing happening09:55
stdinaguitel: "lspci | gerp VGA"09:55
Wigglesi want to prevent kwin from starting09:55
stdinWiggles: you can't really, kwin is started by kded09:55
stdinWiggles: or kdeinit (not sure)09:55
Wigglesok09:56
chovy_umount /dev/cdrom09:56
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aguitelstdin,it say : gerp :order not found09:57
bluevapouralso, terminal etc, loads instant, after update they take 4secs?09:57
bluevapouri have 4600+ dual core cpu09:57
bluevapour7200rpm hdd :S09:57
bluevapour9 seconds that time09:57
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bluevapourWHy is it now going so slow?09:57
stdinaguitel: sorry "lspci | grep VGA"09:58
jpwhitinghi all, anyone here using gutsy with an nvidia card?09:58
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stdinjpwhiting: #ubuntu+109:58
aguitelit say :0:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)09:58
bluevapourAnyone?09:58
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stdinaguitel: then you have an Intel 865G09:59
aguiteli need another driver ?09:59
bluevapourWhy after updateing, do terminals take 9seconds to start!09:59
stdinaguitel: no09:59
vsudilovanyone know how to add a 'mount/unmount' option to ISO's when right clicking the files in KDE?09:59
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aguitelstdn,this is good ?09:59
bluevapourSomeone answer my question!09:59
bluevapourWhy after updateing, do terminals take 9seconds to start!10:00
stdinaguitel: yes10:00
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jpwhitingstdin: thx10:00
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stdinvsudilov: I made something just for that :p10:00
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stdinvsudilov: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=6195510:00
bluevapourWhy after updateing, do terminals take 9seconds to start!10:01
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bluevapourIfact why does everything take around 6seconds?10:01
bluevapourWhy does everyone ignor10:02
bluevapour?10:02
vsudilovstdin: Thanks, I'll give it a try10:02
bluevapour?10:02
bluevapourstop being penises10:02
stdinvsudilov: try the .deb download10:02
stdinbluevapour: stop that10:02
bluevapouranswer then10:02
bluevapourWhat is with this update10:02
bluevapouri update all10:02
stdin!patience10:02
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:02
bluevapourthen windows take 6seconds to appear10:02
bluevapourHelp me then10:03
bluevapourive asked 9 times10:03
bluevapouri expect a reply from the helpers are in this as there arnt 9 other people needing help10:03
stdinbluevapour: if no one knows, then no one can answer10:03
bluevapourwhy be in this channel10:03
bluevapourif ur as dumb as me10:04
stdinbluevapour: READ what ubotu said10:04
bluevapourNo10:04
stdinThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.10:04
bluevapourJust tell10:04
bluevapourI have a fast processor10:04
bluevapourbefore update eveything appear instant10:04
bluevapourafter update everthing appear slow10:04
trekdanne!attitude | bluevapour10:04
ubotubluevapour: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:04
bluevapourCare?10:04
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bluevapourStop spamming10:04
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runleveltenbluevapour. I can help you.10:04
runleveltenI will not.10:05
bluevapourYou dont know is the truth10:05
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bluevapouror you would've said the 9 times ive asked10:05
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runlevelten!attitude | bluevapour10:05
ubotubluevapour: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:05
bluevapourI dont care, if you knew you'de say yeah?10:05
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bluevapourim not being rude mate10:05
bluevapourseriously10:05
bluevapouri apologise10:06
bluevapourbut understand, its frustrating10:06
saylaryes, you were10:06
runleveltenYou were being very rude indeed.10:06
bluevapourim sorry if yo got that idea ok?10:06
saylarit's called a learning curve10:06
saylareveryone is experincing this10:06
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bluevapourNow im sorry10:06
stdinlike I said, if no one knows, then no one can answer10:06
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bluevapourCan anyone help me?10:06
Level15bluevapour: what do u need?10:06
bluevapourrunlevelten knows he said10:07
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bluevapourright mate, i installed kubuntu10:07
bluevapouramazing, speed etc unbeatable10:07
trekdannejust ask you question and idle10:07
bluevapouri update all packages, now it takes 6 seconds for any windows to load except firefox10:07
Level15bluevapour: dude...10:07
bluevapourw00ps, inluding that10:07
bluevapourYeah10:08
bluevapour?10:08
saylarwhat does ksysguard say?10:08
Assidhrmm.. any of you guys using kopete? how do you set the shortcut for ESC to close the active chat window?10:08
Level15bluevapour: have you rebooted the machine?10:08
bluevapourYeah twice :d10:08
saylarhmm, that's indeed odd10:08
Level15weirdo...10:08
bluevapouri have amd 4600+ dual core , 7600 gt, 1gig ram, 120gig hdd10:09
bluevapourif that helps10:09
saylaryour machine is idle ore are there any processes using cpu time?10:09
Level15disable all desktop effects, composite extension, tell us what happens10:09
bluevapourOk10:09
saylarcheck ksysguard from kde menu or top from the konsole10:09
bluevapourSure10:09
runleveltenImma log in in kopete to see...10:10
bluevapourOdd10:10
bluevapourIt loads straight away with the performancemanager open10:11
chovy_re: screensavers -- power savings must be enabled for it to wokr.10:11
bluevapourReally weird10:11
Assidrunlevelten:  got it10:11
bluevapourSeems to be ok now :D10:11
bluevapourThanks guys10:11
Assidhad to do it from within the chat window10:11
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saylaryou should work on something that is called patience, bluevapour.10:12
saylarno offense ;)10:12
Pinky-ponkassid yeah, just got it, heh10:12
bluevapourDude10:12
bluevapourI weightlift and eat 6  cans of tuna per day to help with that10:12
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Assidi hated having to use the mouse everytime to close the window.. and then alt tab10:13
bluevapourlook up mercury poisinig symptoms then tell me that again lol10:13
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AloBlumenauhi, I installed swat from synapitc10:13
saylarwell, we just see your nick. so we don't know what's going with you ;)10:13
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AloBlumenauhow to start it if inetd doesnt exists10:14
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stdinrunlevelten: vain much :p10:14
saylarwell, i think you got the point10:14
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runleveltenAssid: Yeah, the close tab shortcut works well for me :)10:14
runleveltenctrl w10:14
AssidESC10:14
stdinAloBlumenau: you have to install an inetd server10:14
runleveltenCurse Tomboy for being good, and a mono app.10:14
Assidmono app ?10:15
bluevapourAnyone ran swat 4 on wine or cedega?10:15
Assidi need to start gaming10:15
runleveltenAssid: Did you install TC:E yet?10:15
[ifr0g] How many of you run swatch ?10:15
vsudilovstdin: Nice script, but I have to run the application to mount/unmount...How do I get the right-click contextual menu working?10:15
Assidwhats that10:15
[ifr0g] or any one of you ?10:16
AssidTC:E ? runlevelten ?10:16
Assidwassat ?10:16
runleveltenTrue Combat Elite - across-platform squad-based tactical shooter.10:16
Assidi cant play FPS10:16
Assidget the biggest headaches10:16
AloBlumenaustdin: what is the package name? there isnt inetd on synapitc10:16
bluevapourSo guys for TCE10:16
stdinvsudilov: restart konqueror, it'll be there10:17
bluevapouri install ET and then that after right?10:17
runleveltenAssid: You know for lots of people who get motion sickness and headaches with FPS games, they'll find some other FPS doesn't?10:17
runleveltenbluevapour: Yes.10:17
stdinAloBlumenau: inetd-superserver or inetutils-inetd10:17
Assidreally?10:17
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runleveltenAssid: Yeah. It's probably not something you want to experiment with much though, on account of not wanting a headache.10:18
runleveltenheh10:18
AloBlumenaunetkit-inetd?10:18
Assidthats true10:18
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Wigglesi used the autostart applications add on for control center10:18
Assidits not part of the regular repositories?10:18
Wigglesbut i get this error10:18
WigglesThe desktop entry file /home/devin/.kde/Autostart/Beryl.desktop has no Type=... entry.10:18
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bluevapourQuick question10:19
bluevapourFor kde-look.org10:19
stdinAloBlumenau: that too10:19
bluevapourI just download double click and they auto change the interface?10:19
Wigglesi just set the command to "beryl-manager"10:19
Assidhrmm trying to see how do save history for kopete10:19
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Level15Assid: for what IM service?10:19
AssidLevel15:  kopete.. i think i found it10:20
Assidalthough im not sure how to access the archives10:20
Level15Assid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker10:20
Level15Assid: sorry about that10:20
Assidonly way to do it is ALT LEFT..10:21
Level15Assid: klipper thinks it is smarter than me :P10:21
Assidbut what about in a different window10:21
Level15Assid: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs10:21
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nosrednaekimWiggles: hmm, just a second10:21
stdinWiggles: you can just make a link to beryl-manager "ln -s $(which beryl-manager) ~/.kde/Autostart/"10:21
AssidLevel15: nothing within kopete?10:21
Level15Assid: not that i know of10:21
vsudilovstdin: Still no right-click menu. I installed via GUIinstall.sh. Perhaps I should try manual install?10:21
runleveltenbluevapour: instructions on how to install or use things will be given on kde-look.org10:22
Level15Assid: found it10:22
Level15Assid: right click on contact, view history10:22
Assiddamn10:22
Assidsomeone kick me10:22
Wigglesstdin, i don't understand10:22
stdinvsudilov: there was a .deb too, but oh well, tell me if there is a file called ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/mountserv.desktop" ?10:22
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runlevelten's probably in $userkde/share/apps/kopete/10:22
Level15:D10:23
idcoctor-1What is the best why to remote desktop from WinDoze XP to Linux?10:23
Assididcoctor-1: vnc10:23
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Level15idcoctor-1: NX10:23
runleveltenidcoctor-1: depends what you want it for.10:23
Assidnx ?!??10:23
Level15Assid: vnc eats a LOT of bandwidth10:23
stdinWiggles: ln -s makes what's called a "symbolic link" that command just points to beryl-manager10:23
Assidwtf is nx ?10:23
runleveltenWhat's NX? Get yourself to google boy, stat!10:23
runlevelten:)10:23
stdin!nx10:24
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX10:24
vsudilovstdin: Nope, not there -- shall I cp it there?10:24
Level15http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology10:24
trekdanneAssid: non-free remote desktop10:24
Level15trekdanne: oh, it IS free10:24
idcoctor-1thanks10:24
stdinvsudilov: yep, you are the 2nd kubuntu user to say it didn't auto copy...10:24
Level15trekdanne: just there are propietary clients and servers as well10:24
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Level15trekdanne: pretty much like ssh :D10:25
runleveltenalso, on a lan, cygwin X does nicely.10:25
Level15runlevelten: ugh... that also eats a lot of bandwidth... but that's why you said "on a LAN"10:25
Assidhrmm.. i wanna try it10:25
Assidanyone wanna run nx?10:25
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tank71anyone know anything about harddrives?10:25
trekdanneLevel15: ah ok10:25
Level15tank71: i know something... just dunno if it's what u need :D10:26
runleveltenI like being able to use an individual GUI app if I have to use a windows machine10:26
Level15tank71: shoot10:26
runleveltenie: amarok or kmail10:26
idcoctor-1Ya dont buy Maxtors10:26
nosrednaekimWiggles: or you can edit the file with "kate .kde/Autostart/beryl<press tab here to complete>" and put the type as Application10:26
tank71ok so no Maxtor lol10:26
Dragnslcrtank71- they have circles in them that store lots of pictures and stuff10:26
nosrednaekimand they can break if you short them out10:26
tank71hmm learning more and more wow10:26
idcoctor-1anythink else is ok10:26
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chovy_anyone know how to determine aspect ratio?10:27
tank71exactly how hard would it be to put another harddrive into another computer...install ubuntu on it...and not mess up the hd that has win on it10:27
Dragnslcrchovy_- don't you just divide?10:27
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nosrednaekimchovy_: put horizontalpixels over vertical pixels and simplify10:27
tank71not that I ever use the HD with win on it thought...just have a lot of files I might need some day on it10:27
Dragnslcrtank71- quite easy, especially if you unplug the other hard drive first10:27
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chovy_i meant for an avi10:27
morph_!adpetfix10:28
nosrednaekimtank71: very very easy10:28
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tank71so how would I go about that10:28
morph_!adeptfix10:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adpetfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:28
Dragnslcrtank71- in theory, installing Ubuntu won't touch any drives that you don't tell it to10:28
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:28
tank71ya so how do I install the harddrive?10:28
idcoctor-1TANK71 just partition the first hard drive, and put linux on the second partition10:28
tank71its full10:28
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tank71its only 40 gb10:29
Wigglesnosrednaekim, tab doesn't do anything10:29
Dragnslcrtank71- just to be safe, I would suggest just disconnecting the drive you don't want touched10:29
nosrednaekimWiggles: you doing this from the command line?10:29
Dragnslcrtank71- you wouldn't need it during the install anyway10:29
idcoctor-1Yes I agree10:29
tank71ya but I've never installed a harddrive what do I do just plug it in?10:29
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: but if he wants to dual boot...10:29
Wigglesnosrednaekim, i'm using Konsole10:29
Level15tank71: sata?10:29
tank71and yes I want to dual boot10:29
Assidi need some eye candy10:29
Level15tank71: yeah, plug it in10:30
tank71buy an sata harddrive?10:30
nosrednaekimWiggles: do "ls .kde/Autostart" and see what the shortcut is named10:30
AloBlumenauwhy when I stop a service form system services, nothing happens?10:30
bluevapourdo "lite" themes improve performance?10:30
AloBlumenaustill running10:30
Level15AloBlumenau: meaning, the service is not stopped?10:30
Level15AloBlumenau: stop it from the clo10:30
Level15*cli10:30
tank71ok so lets say I go to the store right now pick up a 60 gb harddrive...I can just plug it in...install ubuntu on it and be able to dual boot?10:30
AloBlumenauform where?10:30
Level15 /etc/init.d/myservice stop10:30
Wigglesnosrednaekim, Beryl.desktop10:31
Level15tank71: pretty much10:31
nosrednaekimWiggles: ah ok....10:31
Level15tank71: is your box using sata or IDE?10:31
tank71so how do I setup the dual booting?10:31
AloBlumenaunot system service crash10:31
tank71I dont know to be honest10:31
nosrednaekimWiggles: edit the file with "kate .kde/Autostart/Beryl<press tab here to complete>" and put the type as Application10:31
AloBlumenaugod dami,10:31
nosrednaekim^^I added a capital B10:31
Level15tank71: ubuntu's install will make sure you can dual boot installing grub10:31
AloBlumenaueverything I have to install need another package10:32
AloBlumenaubah10:32
tank71ok so whats this sata or IDE?10:32
AloBlumenaui'll go back to windows10:32
Level15tank71: just make sure grub gets installed on the MBR of the first HD, which will probably be windows drive10:32
tank71MBR?10:32
Level15tank71: it's the bus technology used to connect the HD to the MB10:32
tank71so could I look at it and tell you?10:32
runleveltenbecause windows contains more stuff than ubuntu by default?! hej10:32
Level15tank71: u need to know which one your MB supports before going to buy your new HD10:33
vsudilovstdin: Still no right click menu...let me check your manual install file and see if everythign was put where it needs to go10:33
Level15tank71: sure10:33
Level15tank71: is it a white belt/tape like connector?10:33
Wigglesnosrednaekim, i should add "Type=Application"?10:33
tank71sec10:33
Level15ok10:33
bluevapourAnyone know any really coooooool themes to look for on kde-look.org? i want darkgreen/bkac10:33
AloBlumenaurunlevelten: because is much better10:33
nosrednaekimWiggles: there should already be a Type=<blank> but if there isn't, yes.10:33
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stdinvsudilov: well the mountserv.desktop file needs to go to "~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/mountserv.desktop"  for a user install and "/usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/mountserv.desktop" for a system install10:34
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tank71 Level15: its a whole bunch of wires that go into the harddrive10:34
tank71like let me count...10:34
Level15runlevelten: well, messaging and mail, yes... that crappy outlook express and windows MSN...10:34
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Level15tank71: wtf?10:34
tank71maybe I'm way wrong10:34
tank71sec10:34
Level15tank71: but they are all on a single white ribbon, right?10:35
tank71nope10:35
AloBlumenauplease10:35
Level15tank71: oh, maybe you are looking at the power cords10:35
AloBlumenaucan anyone help me setup smb10:35
runleveltenmsn does msn only. No good to me. Outlook maybe, not that I'd use it myself :)10:35
Level15tank71: there must be another thing besides that10:35
tank71ya I was10:35
tank71I see...one white ribbon thing10:35
Level15runlevelten: yeah, i know. it sucks. someone should just bomb login.live.com10:35
AloBlumenauI'm trying with swat but this f##$ shit doesnt work10:35
Level15tank71: ok, so it's IDE10:35
tank71now wouldnt I need too white ribbon things lol10:35
Level15tank71: dependes10:36
tank71there is another one10:36
Level15tank71: how many white ribbons are in total? and how many CD/DVD/HD devices do you have?have10:36
tank71I just found it10:36
runleveltenYou're calling it shizzle because a windows program doesn't work? How many of my compiled linux binaries do you suppose a windows install could run?10:36
AloBlumenauroot@jupiter:/etc# ps axv | grep inetd10:36
AloBlumenau 9492 ?        Ss     0:00      0    17  1630   464  0.0 inetd stop10:36
AloBlumenau 9505 ?        Ss     0:00      0    17  1626   460  0.0 inetd start10:36
AloBlumenau 9542 pts/3    S+     0:00      0    91  2788   764  0.0 grep inetd10:36
AloBlumenauhow its possible?10:36
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runleveltenI'll tell you, NONE. Give it a fair crack of the whip if you're "comparing" it :)10:36
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WigglesService '/home/devin/.kde/Autostart/Beryl.desktop' is malformatted.10:37
Wiggles^I get that10:37
tank71I have one CD drive  (that doesnt work)<- that could be a problem? 1 HD and 1 xtra10:37
Level15q xtra what?10:37
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tank71white ribbon thing10:37
jhutchinsWiggles: The error message says what's wrong.10:37
Level15tank71: here's what i'd do. get rid of the CD, buy HD, plug it on the unused white ribbon10:38
Level15linux should detect it as /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd10:38
tank71how would I install ubuntu without a CD?10:38
Wigglesjhutchins, how can i fix it?10:38
Level15tank71: make sure linux installs there, and NOT on /dev/hda unless you want to lose your windoze10:38
Assidyou know.. the kubuntu DVD is bad :(10:38
Assidi had to use the CD to install10:38
vsudilovstdin: k, got everything where it needs to go and it works fine. Your readme explains everything pretty clearly, should have just started with those instructions10:39
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vsudilovstdin: ty for the help, and the scripts ;)10:39
nosrednaekimWiggles: you have a messed up .dersktop file, pastebin it please10:39
nosrednaekim!pastebin10:39
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:39
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dipinhey10:39
dipinhow does work now, how would install packages, and drivers for some things10:39
stdinvsudilov: thanks :)10:39
tank71hmmm so I guess I should just try and see what goes wrong?10:39
dipini mean kubuntu is a live cd, right?10:39
dipincan just someone explain how that works10:39
Level15tank71: lol... yes... that's the way to learn10:39
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nosrednaekimdipin: you can oly do that kind of stuff when you install iot10:40
tank71ok well I gotta go get a hd10:40
nosrednaekim*it10:40
tank71how much do you think a 60 gig IDE harddrive will cost?10:40
Level15dipin: a live cd is a full OS that is booted from the CD and loaded into RAM. it can be fully used w/o touching your HD10:40
stdindipin: you usually install kubuntu before you try installing packages10:40
Wigglesnosrednaekim, how can i find the .desktop file?10:40
Dragnslcrtank71- I doubt you could even find one10:40
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runleveltenwiggle: here is a clean functional beryl.desktop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33380/10:40
dipinnosrednaekim: so i can not install anything? can i actually install this stinking kubuntu?10:40
Level15tank71: i guess that depends on where you are.10:40
Dragnslcrtank71- most places won't sell smaller than 80 or 12010:40
tank71hmm so then what am I looking for...10:40
nosrednaekimabout $3010:40
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tank71ok how about a 80 gb ide?10:40
Dragnslcrtank71- you can probably get a 250 GB drive for $80 or so10:41
runleveltenWiggles: ^ save that in a file and replace the one you have.10:41
tank71I'm not rich :D10:41
Level15Dragnslcr: are there 250 GB IDE drives?10:41
nosrednaekimWiggles: "kate .kde/Autostart/Beryl.desktop"10:41
tank71I'm working with three old computer given to me10:41
dipinnosrednaekim: man i thought i downloaded the install version, iddnt want live ;(10:41
saylari just 500GB SATA for 100 euros10:41
nosrednaekimdipin: yes...10:41
Level15tank71: the problem is that a 60 GB can be hard to find nowdays...10:41
dipinnosrednaekim: i got it from here http://ubuntu.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/feisty/10:41
tank71so an 80GB IDE should cose me like 45?10:41
nosrednaekimdipin: you can install off the liveCD10:42
tank71cost*10:42
saylarsince they're outdated they cost pretty much10:42
Level15tank71: maybe a little bit more...10:42
nosrednaekimdipin: which one?10:42
Dragnslcrtank71- yeah, you can 250 GB IDE drives10:42
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Level15tank71: i don't think you can get anything below 120/160 GB10:42
dipinnosrednaekim: can up lease point me to the right place, to install kubuntu then use internet to install some packages, so i basicly need one cd10:42
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nosrednaekimtank71: yeah more or less10:42
dipinnosrednaekim: one cd to install kubuntu10:42
tank71ok well thanks for the help everyone I'll go look around and see what I can find10:42
tank71without overdrawing my card -_-10:43
tank71I'll be back....sometime10:43
DragnslcrHard disks are dirt cheap10:43
DragnslcrAnd constantly getting cheaper10:43
nosrednaekimdipin: did you DL a CD already?10:43
dipinnosrednaekim: yes i downloaded this10:43
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dipinnosrednaekim: http://ubuntu.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso10:44
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dipinnosrednaekim: but apereantly thats the live cd right?10:44
dipinnosrednaekim: i need one that i can actually install10:44
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nosrednaekimdipin: ok, great! thats the liveCD, but you can also install off of it10:44
dipinnosrednaekim: but i only have one cd-r left10:44
dipinnosrednaekim: ohh10:44
tank71ok one more thing then I'll go...what about installing grub...you said it had to be installed on the windows hd too?10:44
dipinnosrednaekim: i could10:44
dipinnosrednaekim: awsome10:44
dipinnosrednaekim: so it is a live cd and instalation cd?10:45
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dipinnosrednaekim: will this cd alone load my ipw394510:45
nosrednaekimdipin: yep, once you boot up, there will be an install icon on the desktop10:45
nosrednaekimright10:45
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Level15tank71: grub should be installed on the MBR of the windows disk, since, that's where your BIOS will start looking for how to boot, unless you tell it otherwise10:45
nosrednaekimdipin: probably...10:45
dipinnosrednaekim: oh probably for the ipw3945 ?10:46
tank71so how would I go about installing grub on the windows disk?10:46
tank71I see what you mean though10:46
dipinnosrednaekim: i only get connection via wifi, what if it doesnt install the wireless driver :(10:46
nosrednaekimdipin: IDK as I don't have one. But you can test it before installing10:46
Level15tank71: i can't remmeber exactly, but there's a point on the installation where ubuntu will ask you where to install grub... tell it to use /dev/hda10:46
dipinnosrednaekim: well im sure the live cd will load wifi10:46
dipinnosrednaekim: argh10:47
tank71ok thanks10:47
tank71bbiaf10:47
nosrednaekimdipin: its not the end of the world.. you can grab packages while in windows and install them in linux.10:47
tank71damn lol I have like $60 on my card :S10:47
Level15nosrednaekim: i have that wifi card and it worked out of the bos with the livecd10:47
Level15*box10:47
nosrednaekimdipin: well, go test out the liveCD and see if it works.10:47
dipinLevel15: and what about if i install kubuntu of the cd ? will driver still oad?10:47
dipinnosrednaekim: ok10:47
Level15dipin: yes10:47
bluevapourGuys10:47
bluevapourHow do i make windows transparent in programs, i.e. firefox10:48
dipinLevel15l: thank yuou, thank you nosrednaekim =)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) <-- one happy kupunter =)10:48
bluevapourSo the page is normal, but the outside is transparent10:48
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Level15and knetworkmanager will make it very easy to join a wireless network, unless it is the UofR campus network :S10:48
nosrednaekimdipin: go try it out first ;)10:48
bluevapourAnyone?10:48
Level15bluevapour: use beryl/compiz/compizfusion10:49
bluevapourWhats that10:49
bluevapoura program?10:49
Level15!desktop effects|bluevapour10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about desktop effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
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bluevapourok10:49
Level15crap10:49
Level15well10:49
bluevapournope :S10:49
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Level15bluevapour: yes, it's a window manager with composite manager10:50
nosrednaekim!beryl | bluevapour10:50
ubotubluevapour: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects10:50
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bluevapourok10:50
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bluevapouralso, if i only use one desktop, how do i remove the two panels to switch?10:50
bluevapourive tried all i know10:50
bluevapourive customised the tool bar etc, i just havent found what i need to remove that10:51
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runleveltentwo panels?10:51
AloBlumenauX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16810:51
Level15bluevapour: unlock panels, then click on the small button next to them, and select remove ;)10:51
AloBlumenauremoving or installing swat10:51
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bluevapourhow do i unlock panels10:52
Level15bluevapour: but i find having mutliple desktops quite useful10:52
bluevapourahh10:52
bluevapouri see10:52
bluevapouri see now, i dont liek it tho10:52
bluevapouri only do one thing at once10:52
Wigglesfor some reason, the beryl options in control center are autostarting instead of beryl-manager10:52
bluevapourminus downloading and bittorrenting10:52
Level15Wiggles: beryl options in control center? i didn't know that even existed!10:53
joacim_I want to rip my audio book to speex and used Ubuntu's Serpentine, but as I now use Kubuntu K3b seems to be the default app. Is it possible to use Speex (and flac) in K3b ? (a better way than installing Serpentine with the entire gnome dependencies)10:53
runleveltenWiggles: that's because that's what you're linking in Autostart...10:53
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nosrednaekimWiggles: what command did you specifiy?10:53
bluevapourso this beryl10:53
runleveltenberyl.desktop links to the control center module...10:54
bluevapourhow do i use it or get itllol even10:54
nosrednaekimWiggles: the program needs to be "beryl-manager"10:54
SlimeyPete!beryl10:54
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects10:54
SlimeyPetebest to ask in there10:54
bluevapouroki doki10:54
SlimeyPetesomeone'll point you in the right direction10:54
Level15i think desktop effects are the most popular cause of support requests here...10:54
nosrednaekimyeah, that and hard drive mounting10:55
runleveltenthey're the most popular cause of installation from what I can tell, too.10:55
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runleveltenThat and no viruses or spyware.10:55
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Level15too bad desktop effects are not that mature yet10:55
nosrednaekimyeah10:56
Assidhrmm10:56
bluevapourWill beryl apply to games?10:56
Wigglesnosrednaekim, so, should i change "Beryl.desktop" to "beryl-manager.desktop"10:56
Assidi think msft will be hating me soon enough10:56
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Level15msft?10:57
Level15!msft10:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
Level15hm10:57
Assidmicrosoft10:57
SlimeyPetebluevapour: fullscreen 3D games won't be affected (though they may run slower)10:57
Level15Assid: oh, trust me, they never loved you... they love your money, though...10:57
SlimeyPete2D games running in a window will have the beryl effects applied to them10:57
runleveltenkwin + effects. That's what I want. Keep Dolphin, plasma et cetera, kwin + effects with stability.10:57
AssidLevel15: well.. now its prolly worse10:57
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Assidrunlevelten: plasma ?10:57
runleveltenBecause damn, the drop in replacements are TERRIBLE compared to kwin.10:57
nosrednaekimWiggles: no.... change the application within the .desktop from whatever it is to beryl-manager10:57
bluevapourAhh ok10:57
bluevapourRight last thing10:57
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bluevapourIve read about it10:58
Dragnslcrbluevapour- you'll probably want to switch back to kwin if you're playing any fullscreen GL games10:58
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bluevapourahh ok10:58
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Assidrunlevelten: plasmoids are on gutsy only right ?10:58
bluevapouri was told, that the best client is Rtorrent with screen for torrenting ofc10:58
Level15kwin is the best WM ever, IMHO10:58
bluevapourhow do i use screen10:58
adenicionosrednaekim: hi i looking how to mount back my ntfx xp partition on my desktop.it does want to mount any more only when i force it but when i log out back in it's not mounted10:58
bluevapourive used rtorret10:58
bluevapourits powerful and lite10:58
DragnslcrBeryl and Compiz don't always get along with other GL apps10:58
Level15closely followed by fluxbox10:58
Assidbluevapour: i personally use utorrent.. through wine10:59
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bluevapourNot lite, and more resources though?10:59
runleveltenI use ktorrent.10:59
Level15ktorrent works fine10:59
DragnslcrI think my only real wish for kwin was a global option for remembering window sizes and positions10:59
adenicionosrednaekim: i try to eneble it it says it allready mounted or its busy10:59
Level15Dragnslcr: i think that's possible, though i have never done it...10:59
Assiddoes plasmoids work on feisty?10:59
chovy_ktorrent needs a find key11:00
Level15Assid: if you install KDE4 beta, i guess they do11:00
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adenicioDragnslcr: : hi i looking how to mount back my ntfx xp partition on my desktop.it does want to mount any more only when i force it but when i log out back in it's not mounted11:00
DragnslcrLevel15- I only ever found how to do it for specific windows11:00
Assidhrmm wouldnt be feisty then11:00
adeniciontfs11:00
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Level15Dragnslcr: and ou want them for what exactly?11:00
adenicio!mount11:00
Level15*you11:00
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter11:00
DragnslcrAssid- you can install KDE4 on Feisty11:00
Assidkinda scary using kde4 beta on a production box11:00
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runleveltenYou can install it alongside your current version.11:00
Assidalongside ?11:01
DragnslcrLevel15- think you meant to ask adenicio that11:01
Assidreally?11:01
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Level15Assid: then you'd better stick to kde 3 w/o plasmoids11:01
Assidhehe.. k11:01
adenicioDragnslcr: hien???11:01
Level15Dragnslcr: no, i meant, what is what you wanted kwin to do??11:01
Assidhow do i make dolphin the default file manager11:01
Level15adenicio: n/m11:01
DragnslcrI keep thinking I should try the KDE4 beta, but I'm too scared of hosing my box11:01
DragnslcrLevel15- global option to remember window size and position. It was annoying to have to set it for every window11:02
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Level15Dragnslcr: oh, i understand now... yeah, i don't think there's such an option11:02
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DragnslcrYeah, which kinda surprises me11:02
saylaranyone got an idea why i still got not space left on my device, even i deleted some files and emptied the trash?11:02
adenicioLevel15: : hi i looking how to mount back my ntfx xp partition on my desktop.it does want to mount any more only when i force it but when i log out back in it's not mounted11:02
DragnslcrI'd think someone would have complained quite loudly about that by now11:02
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: reallyno danger of that11:02
Level15adenicio: you need to add it to /etc/fstab11:03
Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- you'd be surprised how good I am at breaking stuff11:03
nosrednaekimadenicio: go into system settings-> advance-> disks11:03
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nosrednaekimDragnslcr: haha11:04
ubuntu_would soemone tell me11:04
bluevapouranyone here wana show me how to use screen?11:04
ubuntu_password for live cd kubuntu? as root11:04
adenicionosrednaekim: and...?11:04
Level15ubuntu_: i think you must sudo11:04
Level15ubuntu_: sudo su -11:04
ubuntu_bluevapour: pretty much just run screen, and then ctrl+c to exit,11:05
Level15i *think*11:05
ubuntu_bluevapour: ctrl+ad will hide it11:05
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bluevapourAwsome11:05
Assidi dont get it11:05
ubuntu_bluevapour: and to retrive it with will ne screen -r11:05
ubuntu_bluevapour: mmm screen -ls11:05
ubuntu_bluevapour: to check what u got open11:05
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Assidif nvidia drivers byt default exist.. and X can detect nvidia11:05
Assidwhy doesnt it just "tune" it to get better support on its own11:05
adenicionosrednaekim: add what to fstab?11:05
nosrednaekimadenicio: administrator mode, and select the drive you want to mount, and modify the drive you want...11:06
Assidinstead of adding the whole GLXVisuals and everything ourselves11:06
RandMC_Is there possibly a program that can increase the brightness of a laptop screen?11:06
ubuntu_bluevapour: u got it?11:06
nosrednaekim*modify IT how you want11:06
bluevapoursort of11:06
ubuntu_bluevapour: i must go bye11:06
bluevapourcheers11:06
bluevapourbb11:06
nosrednaekimthis adds things to fstab..11:06
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Level15RandMC_: usually the laptop has some Fn + key combination for that11:06
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bluevapourwith screen11:06
bluevapourwhere do i push these hotkeys?11:06
adenicionosrednaekim: did that allready it says drive allready mount or its busy11:06
chris_What's the name of the metapackage for gcc?11:06
RandMC_allright I will try that.11:06
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nosrednaekimRandMC_: thats ussualy a hardware thing11:06
Level15LVM + reiserfs own11:07
Level15:D11:07
RandMC_okay thanks.11:07
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nosrednaekimchris_: gcc is already installed.... but its "build-essential"11:08
adenicionosrednaekim: ...11:08
chris_nosrednaekim: thanks11:08
nosrednaekimadenicio: did you just manually mount it?11:08
Level15adenicio: reboot, then do the system settings->advanced_>disks thingy11:08
bluevapourwhat could i use with rtorrent so i dont have to restart downloads each time?11:08
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bluevapourby putting in names again11:09
bluevapourcause thats the only prob i  have with it11:09
Level15all right fellows... gotta go11:09
Level15cya later11:09
adenicionosrednaekim: it was working at firts untill i modify the fstab to add ntfs 3g.i had to unmount and remount after that i turn of the pc turn back on it not there.i foce it to mount it did but never stay mounted11:10
nosrednaekimadenicio: thats a problem with your fstab11:10
adenicioLevel15:???did that allready11:11
bluevapourwhat is lightest torrent manage to use11:11
bluevapourfor performance11:11
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adenicionosrednaekim: if i erase the lines where it got the name of the ntfs  hdd will i help or damage it self?11:13
bluevapouranyone? whats the best torrent manager?11:14
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DragnslcrI thought KTorrent was good when I used it11:14
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Assidanyone know if  a mac opens .ogg files without any issues?11:17
Biovoreit should11:17
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Biovoremight need to install the codec for mac..11:18
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Assidwonder how to convert it to quicktime11:18
Biovoredepends whats the ogg file contains..  theora? xvid? divx?11:18
Assidtheora11:18
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Biovorethere are theora codecs for everything..11:18
Biovoreshould work on a mac..11:18
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bluevapourGuys my desktop looks really cool so when i lock session can i keep desktop in backgrond11:20
bluevapourliterally with everything im doing11:20
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bluevapourso its my desktop in realtime but the cant do anything till they put pass in11:20
stdinthat's what it does anyway11:20
bluevapourstdin11:21
stdinit's just like a screensaver that needs a pass, everything still runs11:21
bluevapourwhat would you say was lightest torrent client?11:21
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stdinprobably rtorrent11:22
bluevapourbut they need the torrent names inputting each time11:22
bluevapourso that really does suck11:22
bluevapouror is there a fix for that?11:22
stdinI don't know, I just use ktorrent11:23
bluevapourAhhh11:23
bluevapourok11:23
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adeniciostdin: are u good in mountin partitions?(hdd's)?11:28
stdinI guess...11:28
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stdinadenicio: why?11:30
adeniciostdin: dont worry i found how to.but hmm the mount partition look like a folder u know where are the icon's that look like hdd's are?11:31
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adenicioso i can change it11:32
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stdinin /usr/share/icons/...11:32
emilsedghadenicio: /media :P11:32
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elite101why do ppl like macs? even thou a new line up came out but why? whats so cool about 1 button mouse/no games/u cant build it ur self?11:35
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adeniciostdin: if your no to busy can u tell me in wich folder the icon that look like a hdd are11:36
adenicioplease11:36
emilsedghelite101: I dunno too! but I hope things will change with KDE's new major release...11:37
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elite101lol yeah kinda off-topic11:37
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stdinadenicio: it'd be in /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/devices11:38
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adeniciostdin: lol now all my folder in the partiotn look like hdd's :-/ thats funny11:41
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elite101well just wondering say there is a WINE alternative for windows programs on linux can i use a emulatore for say MAC programs? on a windows pc?11:41
elite101like the one im on now?11:42
elite101or no?11:42
stdinelite101: Wine Is Not an Emulator (spells WINE)11:42
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elite101i knw11:43
elite101but like11:43
elite101is there one for mac?11:43
elite101on windows pc11:43
adenicioelite101: wa so good about a mac?11:44
elite101the movie editing11:44
stdinyou want windows help?11:44
stdin!windows | elite10111:44
elite101garage band11:44
ubotuelite101: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents11:44
stdin:)11:44
elite101Err11:44
elite101i mean11:44
Biovoremost OS X stuff is unix based..11:44
elite101a MAC is diff than a PC so can u run MAC programs on a PC11:44
Biovoreeasy to port..11:44
elite101so then u can use it on linux11:45
elite101the MAC programs?11:45
elite101MINE*?11:45
Biovorenot directly..11:45
elite101like WINE11:45
stdinelite101: short answer: no11:45
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BiovoreEven though in theory it wouldn't be as hard as windows...11:45
elite101k thanx11:45
kyle__could someone please help me get my soundcard working?11:46
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kyle__could someone please help me get my soundcard working?11:47
elite101i had this happen^11:47
kyle__oh11:47
elite101whats wrong?11:47
adenicioi hate amule!its allways a server prob.how do i get servers to connect to?11:48
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kyle__well i htink i need a driver.11:48
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kyle__when i try ot open the volume control i get error messages11:48
Assidokay 1 person moving to linux.. one person moved to mac. not including me in the count11:48
Assidwho should i convert next11:48
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kyle__IM this kid Assid11:49
kyle__xsuckxitx711:49
Assid???11:49
kyle__convert him =] 11:49
Assidhaha no way11:50
kyle__aww =[ i keep trying to explain to him how awesome linux is11:50
kyle__he just says "its free software, it HAS to suck"11:50
bluevapourGuys11:50
Assidget him on irc11:50
KartiHi all, just had to reinstall 64 bit Kubuntu as my normal 32 bit PC died :( Are there any issues that I should worry about?11:50
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bluevapourWhere is True Combat Elite install file?11:50
bluevapourIc ant find it11:50
AssidKarti: 16bit burial ?11:50
Assidhehe.. j/k11:51
AssidKarti:  jjust reinstall 32 bit version11:51
adenicioi hate amule!its allways a server prob.how do i get servers to connect to?11:51
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Kartipretty much.......but I'm afraid its a motherboard issue, it's gone to a safer place. The only thing that will install on this AMD 2 is the 64 bit11:52
adeniciowhich channel i have to go to to get help with my printer?11:52
Assidoh.. okay11:52
Assidyour reinstallingthe 64bit right ?11:52
KartiAssid: I normally follow a procedure to get my system up and running, but I had problems getting my encryted dvds to play11:53
KartiI'm on the 64bit now11:53
Assidencrypted dvds?11:53
KartiAssid: yes11:53
Assidwhat you mean encrypted dvds?11:54
adeniciostdin: how do u get to rename file by just clikin on there name?11:54
KartiI was following the libdvdread3 instructions11:54
KartiAssid: normal movies etc11:54
DaSkreech!dvd11:55
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs11:55
stdinadenicio: not sure, I never use that11:55
adeniciook11:55
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milesBiovre?11:57
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DaSkreechmiles: French?11:57
milesno, Biovre is someone that frequents this channel11:57
mileshe programs C, i had a C question for him11:58
milesi think its a he11:58
runleveltenbiovore...11:58
mileso nose11:58
milesi spelt the name wrong?11:58
BiovoreoO11:58
milesim sorry, i never saw the second o11:58
DaSkreech!tab | mila11:59
ubotumila: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.11:59
milesi dont htink biovre is a french word tho, i too french in high school11:59
DaSkreech!tab | miles11:59
ubotumiles: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.11:59
stdinmiles: ##C ?11:59
runleveltenDaSkreech: Irony rocks. :)11:59
milesno C11:59
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milesand i know about tab, but is it possible to run "| grep [name] " after thaat?11:59
DaSkreechrunlevelten: Or sucks depending on which part of the net you stand on11:59
stdinmiles: no, that's a channel for C users/programmers12:00
milesso i could of done "[tab]  | grep Bio"12:00
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milesyou know what, im using a cli irc client right now and the window is real transparent, i cant see colors well\12:00
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milesbut look, 2 questions12:00
milesso i could of done "[tab]  | grep Bio" ??12:00
Biovore?12:01
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milesor  i could of done "[tab]  | grep miles" to see who is in here named "miles"???12:01
Biovore^ that looks like bash script.. not c12:01
DaSkreechmiles: you could type bio and press tab12:01
mileso sick12:01
milesthanks, that helps a lot12:01
Biovoreyeah tab autocomplete12:01
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DaSkreechthat should at least give you the first person who's name starts with that string12:02
Biovore2 tabs shows options12:02
milesok, so what kind of C programming do you do?12:02
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Biovoreall kinds..  QT4, embbedded systems.. etc12:02
DaSkreech at best it gives you a list of all names with that string with the Name you want highlighted by magic12:02
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milesembedded systems? thats what im interested in programming12:02
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milesi am starting to study C because i want to do that12:02
milesembed systems that is12:02
BiovoreI been playing with gumstix here at home.. www.gumstix.org12:03
DaSkreech!info kplayer12:03
ubotuPackage kplayer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:03
DaSkreechgrrr12:03
milescool, im gonna check that out right now12:03
Biovorelittle linux embedded systems.. size of a stick of gum.12:03
jhutchinsIs there a console command that will tell me if there is media in a burner?12:03
Biovore600 MHz 128MB ram on something thats smaller then your wallet12:03
KartiDaSkreech: I got some errors that I can investigate tomorrow with the dvd playing but it appears to work fine.12:03
Biovoredinner time.. bbl12:03
DaSkreechKarti: Nest12:03
DaSkreechneat12:03
KartiAssid: Thanks for the help12:04
KartiDaSkreech: I hope the rest of the 64 bit is as easy!12:04
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Assidnp12:04
milesok C is crazy12:04
DaSkreechKrazy!12:04
milesi <3 it tho12:05
DaSkreechKarti: except for Flash and win64codecs yes it is12:05
meuhlollol12:05
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KartiDaSkreech: I installed the win64codecs, assuming they work as I can watch a dvd, but is Flash an issue? rather than a normal install?12:07
DaSkreechKarti: ha ha :-)12:08
DaSkreech!flash 6412:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flash 64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
DaSkreechDrat12:08
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DaSkreech!flash12:08
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash12:08
DaSkreechI think that does 64 bit flash12:08
DaSkreech!find flash12:08
ubotuFound: flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer, libflash0c2 (and 4 others)12:08
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DaSkreech!search flash12:08
ubotuFound: flash 9, gnash, flash64, fffc, flash, flash64bit, flash9, flashplayer, font12:08
DaSkreech!flash64bit12:08
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava12:08
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DaSkreechthere we go12:08
DaSkreechKarti: ^^^12:09
LopinOkay...  Anyone know how to get a hold of NDISwrapper without an internet connection?12:09
KartiDaSkreech: The worst thing is that I would be happy to get a new 32 bit pc, but its cheaper to get 6412:09
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milesyou need to get the binary or source some how Lopin12:09
milesLopin, all u gotta do is get the deb somewhere and place it on a usb.  mount the usb and copy the deb over to  /var/cache/apt/archives/12:11
milesthen you can run apt-get on it12:11
miles!find ndis12:11
ubotuFound: linux-image-2.6.20-15-386, linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server-bigiron, ndiswrapper-common (and 10 others)12:11
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milesif you dont have an internet connection, how are you talkin to me right now?12:12
LopinDEB!12:12
aguitelhow i shutdown a proccess with terminal?12:12
miles"shutdown -t now"12:12
milesi thkn12:12
LopinI do, but I'm in windows...  My internal WiFi card works through windows...12:12
stdinaguitel: no12:13
bluevapourGuys to install enemy territory12:13
bluevapourshould i use sudo?12:13
milesya, go to http://packages.ubuntu.org12:13
stdinaguitel: kill (pid), or killall name12:13
LopinThanks!12:13
milessearch for ndis, download it onto usb12:13
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bluevapourShould i use Sudo to install Enemy Territory?12:13
milesbluevapour, i dont know, but if you figure out tell me, i couldnt get it to install12:13
milesi love that game!12:13
bluevapourLol12:14
bluevapourill do it :D12:14
bluevapouryou wait!12:14

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