[07:19] <whyso> hi! im installing java and stuck on Configuring sun-java6-bin, it is text on a blue screen which an OK but now way to click it, help?
[07:19] <drkfce> press tab
[07:19] <whyso> ah thanx
[07:20] <whyso> also how do i get 1680x1050 resolution? its my monitors native
[07:20] <robotgeek> !resolution
[07:20] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:25] <adenicio> hi i install testdisk i want to know how to run it because im not seing it in K menu
[07:28] <adenicio> hi i install testdisk i want to know how to run it because im not seing it in K menu
[07:29] <adenicio> !xubuntu
[07:29] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:29] <drkfce> I would like to edit a configuration file with a script, specifically "interfaces" within /etc/network.  Can anyone lead me to a site that would help me find out how to do that?
[07:33] <robotgeek> drkfce: have you take a look at "man 5 interfaces"
[07:33] <adenicio> hi i install testdisk i want to know how to run it because im not seing it in K menu
[07:34] <robotgeek> adenicio: i think it is a command line utility, so you cannot run it from the K-Menu.
[07:34] <robotgeek> adenicio: you need to start it from a konsole
[07:35] <adenicio> ok
[07:39] <adenicio> robotgeek: do u know the extention of the programmes for linux?for me to put them on the desktop?(ex:for windows its .exe)i want to put like vlc on my desktop
[07:41] <robotgeek> adenicio: once you install it using adept, you can just launch it from the K-Menu
[07:44] <hydrogen> if you right click it in k-menu you can add it to your desktop
[07:44] <adenicio> robotgeek: but i like my way of to open a video i does drag and drop on programmes.at least if u can give me the names of the extention of programmes.
[07:45] <adenicio> hydrogen: ok
[07:45] <robotgeek> adenicio: should just work that way
[07:45] <robotgeek> adenicio: you dont need to have an extension, that is automagic in Linux
[07:46] <adenicio> hydrogen: ok i love it i can live for ever on linux
[07:46] <adenicio> :)
[07:51] <adenicio> robotgeek: i just wanted to know the names for linux.do u know how to keep a window in detail?so i dont have to be pressin detail all the time i surf in my hdd's
[07:52] <robotgeek> adenicio: i dont understand
[07:53] <sunshine125> do you mean so you can see file properties while you browse files ?
[07:54] <adenicio> robotgeek: the view mode
[07:55] <adenicio> sunshine125: yes detail
[07:55] <adenicio> s
[07:55] <goban> hi, i just installed and its great but it doesnt detect my resolution of 1680 1050 how do i fix?
[07:56] <robotgeek> adenicio: Konqueror -> View -> View Mode -> Detailed
[07:57] <robotgeek> adenicio: Settings -> Save View Profile "Whatever"
[08:01] <adenicio> robotgeek: ok tanks thats much beter :)
[08:02] <robotgeek> adenicio: cool
[08:03] <Daisuke_Ido> !resolution | goban
[08:03] <ubotu> goban: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:04] <sunshine125> im new to linux to but just an idea... you might be able to get ati or nvidia files somehow
[08:04] <adenicio> robotgeek: is there another msn server than kotepe or amsn?kotepe keep giving me errors "unable to lookup messenger.hot.com
[08:05] <WaltzingAlong> adenicio: messenger.hotmail.com ?
[08:05] <robotgeek> adenicio: if kopete doesn't work, i don't know what works
[08:06] <adenicio> robotgeek: and amsn takin a year to log in
[08:07] <robotgeek> heh
[08:07] <adenicio> robotgeek: ok
[08:08] <adenicio> robotgeek: do amerok plays video's?if yes what do i have to install for it to play them?because i want to play one after the next
[08:08] <m0u5e> i can't get into kubuntu :X
[08:08] <m0u5e> err *ubuntu :X
[08:08] <robotgeek> adenicio: kaffeine does play videos, not amarok
[08:09] <whyso> !resolution told me to do the xorg reconfigure and i did, and selected 1680x1050 but still its not even an option :( i wonder y
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> if you selected it
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> you'll need to restart x
[08:12] <adenicio> robotgeek: how do i get it to play one after the next?i dont want to be goin in the file to select a video everytime
[08:12] <robotgeek> adenicio: add to playlist
[08:13] <Daisuke_Ido> or just select the ones you want, right-click, and open with kaffeine
[08:18] <adenicio> robotgeek: ok
[08:21] <adenicio> robotgeek: how to change the mouse from one clic?
[08:21] <robotgeek> adenicio: check in Mouse under system settings
[08:23] <sunshine125> where can i find main additions to tribe 4 kubuntu ?
[08:24] <adenicio> robotgeek: i dont see mouse.just net set,desktop,sound sys etc...
[08:24] <whyso> hmm this will sound really stupid but the screen looks sort of "fuzzy"
[08:24] <robotgeek> adenicio: keyboard and mouse
[08:25] <adenicio> ok
[08:27] <vsudilov> anyone know how to map pressing the middle mouse button to run an application?
[08:29] <helpjeff_> hello
[08:30] <helpjeff_> i find driver for lexmark z735
[08:30] <helpjeff_> openpriniting write z730 work properly with generic postscript
[08:30] <helpjeff_> but not z735
[08:38] <helpjeff_> thank you
[08:40] <godstorm> mm
[08:40] <godstorm> is any one here?
[08:40] <godstorm> knows about Ubuntu?
[08:40] <angel_> hola
[08:40] <angel_> hay alguien
[08:40] <angel_> yes
[08:40] <adenicio> robotgeek: do viruses exist for feisty?because i just download amule and i want to download so stuf.if it does have V to mess up the sys wich antivirus is best that can install from adep?
[08:41] <godstormok> ok
[08:41] <godstormok> i need help
[08:41] <godstormok> with DNS Hosting
[08:41] <robotgeek> adenicio: no need for anti virus
[08:41] <godstormok> or a Hosting Server
[08:41] <angel_> what is your problem???
[08:41] <godstormok> i want to Hosting my Own DNS like .com or .net
[08:41] <godstormok> and a IRC server to and a Web site
[08:42] <angel_> OK
[08:42] <godstorm> can you help me?
[08:42] <whyso> mplayer says error in initializing the selected video output device help?
[08:44] <adenicio> robotgeek: there are no viruses that crash linux then cool :).but is there something that can stop unwanted predator from trying  to take control of my pc?someone told me i have i tink a port open thats why people are getting in trying to conect to my pc and control it
[08:44] <angel_> .com or .net in the site register.com
[08:44] <godstorm> ok
[08:44] <godstorm> but
[08:44] <robotgeek> adenicio: sure, people can get access to your PC
[08:44] <godstorm> i am with iut paying
[08:44] <godstorm> it*
[08:44] <godstorm> dam
[08:44] <godstorm> mm
[08:44] <godstorm> ok
[08:44] <godstorm> i need one for a DNS free .com hosting
[08:45] <angel_> may be too register.net
[08:45] <godstorm> off the Linuxs
[08:45] <adenicio> robotgeek: but dont they need a passw?
[08:45] <godstorm> you need pay for it
[08:45] <angel_> yes
[08:45] <godstorm> i need a Free DNS
[08:45] <godstorm> tho
[08:45] <robotgeek> adenicio: no, if there is a vulnerability, they don't need a password. it should be okay though
[08:45] <godstorm> to hosting my own server
[08:45] <WaltzingAlong> godstorm: so no-ip.com or dyndns.org ?
[08:45] <robotgeek> godstorm: try dyndns.com or no-ip.com
[08:46] <angel_> im from Argentina and in this country im pay for one site .com or .net
[08:46] <Assid> heya
[08:46] <godstorm> thos don't work
[08:46] <Assid> okay.. what would be better on a kubuntu/linux desktop?
[08:46] <godstorm> i try it
[08:46] <Assid> more cores? faster processors?
[08:46] <godstorm> yes Assid
[08:46] <Assid> godstorm: ?
[08:46] <godstorm> more cpu more Fast you can go
[08:47] <Assid> more cores  OR faster processors?
[08:47] <angel_> the dinamic dns not permit register domain absolute
[08:47] <Assid> basically 3ghz c2d or 2.4ghz c2q
[08:47] <godstorm> fast Processors
[08:47] <godstorm> yes assid
[08:47] <adenicio> robotgeek: no its not ok because when it pops up they keep asking me if i would let them control my keyboard and mouse.if by mistak i press yes.i have also my hdd xp conected they can drop any unwanted files :(
[08:47] <Assid> dude
[08:47] <Assid> you arent making sense
[08:47] <angel_> only dnsdyn.??????.com
[08:47] <Assid> i asked what would be better
[08:47] <godstorm> like
[08:48] <godstorm> mm
[08:48] <Assid> its an option
[08:48] <Assid> i know faster and more = better
[08:48] <robotgeek> adenicio: on linux? i doubt it
[08:48] <godstorm> like this my.com
[08:48] <godstorm> for a exp
[08:48] <godstorm> it with paying
[08:48] <godstorm> tho
[08:48] <robotgeek> godstorm: you need to pay for domain
[08:48] <robotgeek> godstorm: you might also need to pay for hosting
[08:48] <godstorm> to host my own server on Linuxs?
[08:48] <adenicio> robotgeek: ok but if i say yes will they control my mouse?
[08:48] <adenicio> robotgeek: for real?
[08:48] <godstorm> lol
[08:49] <angel_> yes .com or .net = $$$$
[08:49] <robotgeek> adenicio: not sure what you are talking about, sorry. i have not used it, sorry
[08:49] <adenicio> robotgeek: ok
[08:49] <angel_> people im going  to sleep. Arribederchi
[08:50] <godstorm> ok
[08:50] <godstorm> angel_:
[08:50] <godstorm> ty
[08:50] <angel_> yes????
[08:50] <godstorm> i said ty
[08:50] <godstorm> lol
[08:50] <godstorm> nn hun
[08:50] <angel_> ty man
[08:50] <angel_> What is ty????
[08:51] <Daisuke_Ido> "thank you"
[08:51] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[08:51] <luckyone_> thank you
[08:51] <luckyone_> anyone in here know about PHP caching?
[08:51] <angel_> OK.....to welcome??????
[08:52] <Assid> luckyone_: try eaccelerator
[08:59] <greg_> !flash
[08:59] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:02] <ubuntu> hi
[09:09] <ai__> hi
[09:10] <ai__> where is the chanel for kde4 ?
[09:20] <killroy_2> I'm running kubuntu feisty and fo some reason although I can burn a dvd, my system won't read them - they simply show up as blank.  Any ideais?
[09:25] <hangthedj> what burner program are you using?
[09:25] <Lynoure> hangthedj: who? or anyone?
[09:26] <Lynoure> hangthedj: Just plain old k3b
[09:26] <hangthedj> i'm not sure, i'm on my server so i have no scroll back.
[09:26] <hangthedj> didn't somebody say they can't read they're burned dvds?
[09:28] <vzduch> killroy_2 was spoken to
[09:29] <vzduch> [09:20:52]  < killroy_2> I'm running kubuntu feisty and fo some reason although I can burn a dvd, my system won't read them - they simply show up as blank.  Any ideais?
[09:29] <vzduch> mornin'
[09:30] <arun> i have java runtime environment installed, but websites dont appear correctly in my firefox
[09:30] <arun> it says 'additional plugins required'
[09:30] <vzduch> how did you install?  and what exactly?
[09:31] <arun> sun java
[09:31] <pag> arun, sun-java6-plugin  maybe?
[09:31] <daleach> hey guys when my system did one of the periodic disk checks at startup ...I noticed some crazy swap partition error I forgot exactly what it said but something like it couldn't read it.. can I pull up a log of that message?  Also when I do 'free' I get for the swap: 0 0 0 (!?!?)
[09:31] <arun> i dont have the plugin installed.. i have sun-java6 and sun-java6-jre
[09:31] <Lynoure> killroy_2: have you tried if some other system would show them?
[09:32] <arun> thanks pag
[09:32] <killroy_2> hangthedj: makedvd
[09:32] <daleach> you have to link
[09:32] <daleach> to the jre
[09:32] <killroy_2> I think my burner is whacked
[09:32] <daleach> in a firefox directory
[09:32] <daleach> I think that's how I did it
[09:33] <hangthedj> killroy_2: are you trying to burn movies, or trying to convert avi's or mpegs to dvd?
[09:33] <killroy_2> I can read some CD's and DVD (commerial ones) and not those burned on other burners.  And when I burn a dvd it won't play on my machine nor my dvd player, but the exact same files burn and play on another machine
[09:33] <Lynoure> killroy_2: usually, in that case you get an error of some kind, So it does not hurt to try. Bought dvds show fine?
[09:33] <arun> daleach: how exactly
[09:33] <daleach> arun looking it up
[09:33] <killroy_2> I've converted a PAL video to NTSC
[09:33] <daleach> one sec
[09:33] <killroy_2> with tovid
[09:33] <vzduch> I think it was /usr/share/mozilla/plugins/
[09:34] <killroy_2> and burned it on a different machine.  the dvd plays brilliantly in dvd player
[09:34] <killroy_2> but a dvd with source files burned on that machine doesn't even read on mine
[09:34] <killroy_2> and though mined doesn't generate any errors, the resulting dvd when I do burn is unplayable...
[09:34] <killroy_2> ergo I think my burner is whacked
[09:35] <daleach> libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/local/jdk1.6.0_01/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so*
[09:35] <hangthedj> unplayable = blank?
[09:35] <daleach> is what i get when I do an ls
[09:35] <daleach> that file is in
[09:35] <daleach> my
[09:36] <daleach> ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:36] <killroy_2> hangthedj: yeah, my machine mounts the disc and reports blank
[09:37] <hangthedj> killroy_2: and you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[09:37] <killroy_2> hangthedj: but you can clearly see it's been burned.. and the dvd player retuns a "disc dirty" error... whateve that is.  It's ain't dirty
[09:37] <killroy_2> hangthedj: think do
[09:37] <killroy_2> hangthedj: pretty sure... checking
[09:38] <killroy_2> hangthedj: yep, installed...
[09:39] <killroy_2> pretty sure it's the drive.  If I can't read a data dvd burned on another machine, it's likely the drive
[09:39] <hangthedj> killroy_2: i'm not sure, i haven't had many problems with dvd burners, so i don't have much experience in fixing them :/
[09:39] <daleach> oh
[09:39] <daleach> it looks like you can do
[09:39] <daleach> the link to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins also
[09:39] <daleach> I guess
[09:39] <killroy_2> hangthedj: I think I just needed to bounce the ideas out of my head.  I think I already new the problem.  I'll just go buy me a replacement.
[09:40] <daleach> arun you there?
[09:41] <daleach> sudo ln -s <jrelocation> <firefoxpluginlocation>
[09:42] <daleach> anyone know about my swap disk issue
[09:42] <daleach> what kinds of numbers do you guys get when you run "free" (for swap)
[09:42] <vzduch> exec -o free
[09:43] <vzduch> fsck
[09:43] <vzduch>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:43] <vzduch> Mem:        775632     767624       8008          0     167432     361528
[09:43] <vzduch> -/+ buffers/cache:     238664     536968
[09:43] <vzduch> Swap:      1574360     175480    1398880
[09:43] <daleach> see yeah i get 0's for the last 3
[09:43] <daleach> hah
[09:43] <daleach> that's BAD right?
[09:43] <vzduch> I guess so
[09:44] <daleach> what is that exec thing btw?
[09:46] <keh7d> hi can anyone help me figure out why i can't set my reso. higher than 1024x768? please?
[09:48] <adenicio> robotgeek: konkeror keep saying Unknown host www.google.com.why?does it do that when u are downloading with adept?i dont have dsl just dial up
[09:48] <pag> adenicio, does ping work?  (  ping google.com  )
[09:51] <adenicio> pag:??? how do, i ping google?
[09:51] <keh7d> is 1024x768 the highest resolutions supported on kubuntu?
[09:51] <adenicio> and where?
[09:51] <pag> adenicio, I gave you the command... open konsole and type: ping google.com
[09:52] <pag> adenicio, see if it works and stop it with ctrl+c after ~20 seconds
[09:52] <adenicio> keh7d: why do u want to go hygher?is your eyes to small?:-D
[09:52] <pag> keh7d, I use 1280x1024 just fine...
[09:54] <keh7d> yes my eyes are very small...
[09:54] <pag> keh7d, see if resolution you want is enabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:54] <adenicio> pag: ping: unknown host google.com
[09:55] <keh7d> pag -- thnx for the tip i'll check it out
[09:55] <pag> adenicio, but you still are able to be on irc? or are you using a different computer?
[09:56] <adenicio> pag: in the place of ping do i have to put numbers?
[09:56] <keh7d> ahh, it has the wrong monitor listed. do i need to manually edit the xorg.conf? auto-detect somehow?
[09:57] <daleach> keh7d you should definitely try to google your monitor make and number with ubuntu
[09:57] <daleach> don't worry about kubuntu specifically
[09:57] <pag> keh7d, if it already has autodetected it wrong, it probably wont help autodetecting it again... just edit it manually  (or pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ) it and I can  take a look at it)
[09:57] <daleach> widescreen or regular ? (regular is easier)
[09:59] <adenicio> pag: the first time i conect to the net on linux it was the same prob but i could of still chat on konversation but couldnt surf.i created a new account to see and it work.now all wa happen i was watch cartoon on kafein and adept crash,itry to surf to look for something it give me an error
[09:59] <pag> !aptfix | adenicio
[09:59] <ubotu> adenicio: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:59] <chovy> how come my screen saver never activates?
[10:00] <adenicio> pag: now adept giving me errors too
[10:00] <keh7d> pag -- i pasted it under "keh7d"
[10:01] <keh7d> seems strange that my xorg.conf is diff. than what it lists under system settings
[10:01] <pag> keh7d, you need to give link to your paste, otherwise it's (almost?) impossible to find
[10:01] <keh7d> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33311/
[10:01] <adenicio> pag: it kill my downloads :(
[10:02] <pag> keh7d, well... the highes reso defined is 1024x768.. which reso are you trying to achieve?
[10:02] <adenicio> pag: does ares or limewire existe for linux?
[10:03] <pag> !limewire | adenicio
[10:03] <ubotu> adenicio: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[10:04] <keh7d> pag-- under section "screen" doesnt it have a mode listed as 1280x960?
[10:05] <adenicio> pag: and ares wich i like best
[10:05] <pag> keh7d, oh.. sorry, didn't notice at first.
[10:05] <pag> adenicio, hmm.. I never heard of that programm :-/
[10:05] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "The kexi package is part of the KDE Office Suite." I am going to stay with my OO.o Office. When installing kexi, would I have to install a lot of general-purpose KDE program packages also?
[10:06] <adenicio> pag: ok
[10:06] <keh7d> pag -- note that it says "COMPAQ 910" and the modelname as "Dell E153FP"
[10:06] <keh7d> not right i think.
[10:06] <pag> keh7d, I'm not too familiar with widescreen resolutions... maybe you need nvidia closed drivers?
[10:06] <keh7d> does "closed" mean drivers that are distributed with the product?
[10:07] <pag> keh7d, closed as in not open source. iow. Nvidias 'official' drivers
[10:07] <pag> !nvidia | keh7d
[10:07] <ubotu> keh7d: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:07] <keh7d> pag, ubotu -- thnx i'll giv it a try.
[10:08] <adenicio> pag: when u download a prog it does be in the k menu right but if its not there u have to run it in a konsole?if yes how?by ritten the name?
[10:08] <kasina> hi
[10:09] <pag> adenicio, yup... it's usually just the name of the programm in lowercase... ie. firefox / kcontrol ...
[10:09] <chovy> does anyone know how to enable screensaver?
[10:09] <fsbenap1> it should be by its name. Look at package files and look for files in /bin, or /usr/bin directories
[10:09] <pag> fsbenap1, " which packagename " is easier ;)
[10:09] <kasina> I want to open some port on my Kubuntu but have no idea how to go about it. Anyone help please
[10:11] <fsbenap1> I think by default all ports are open. You should take a look at iptables.
[10:11] <fsbenap1> Or you can use some graphical frontend like Guarddog or something
[10:11] <Karti> Hi all, wonder if someone could have a look at this crontab error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33314/ When I run the script and test it outside the cron it works fine, but when I run it as a cron job, it appears to only copy across part of the tar file. Many thanks
[10:12] <Daxana> Hi.. I learnt manual installation of a.deb
[10:12] <pag> Karti, do not use shortcuts like ~
[10:12] <Karti> pag: thanks will try that
[10:12] <adenicio> pag: wa is ie.?
[10:13] <pag> adenicio, in example  (I think...)
[10:13] <Daxana> but after put command sudo dpkg -i (files) I don't know what's to do ? Anyone can help
[10:14] <adenicio> pag: lol ok if u say so
[10:14] <pag> Daxana, well.. it usually starts installing and tells you when its done..
[10:14] <Daxana> Pag: So what's I do is wait ?
[10:15] <pag> adenicio, in fact it means "id est" = " "That is (to say)", "in other words", or sometimes "in this case" "  (Wikipedia rocks :)
[10:15] <pag> Daxana, probably... iirc dpkg outputs commants about it's progress...
[10:16] <Daxana> pag : It said " unpackaging (files)" and "setting ..(files). Nothing happened
[10:16] <adenicio> pag: lol ok.i install doscan run in a konsole it say:"doscan: mandatory --port argument is missing"
[10:16] <Karti> pag: Sorry that made no difference
[10:17] <pag> Daxana, is it still loading, or did it put you back to username@host thingy?
[10:18] <Daxana> Pag: No. it is done loading.
[10:18] <adenicio> pag: wat does it mean and where can i get watever is missin
[10:18] <adenicio> ?
[10:19] <pag> adenicio, dunno - I'm not familiar with that programm
[10:19] <adenicio> ok
[10:19] <adenicio> !ntfs
[10:19] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:19] <pag> Daxana, then it should be ready... try sudo apt-get -f install   to see if you have all depencies handled, and you should be fine
[10:21] <Daxana> pag : filex ext is a.deb. Should i put all name again -f.deb ??
[10:21] <adenicio> pag: i install ntfs-3g n fuse to rite on my xp partition etc but how do i use it?i cant get true to rite on the ntfs partition etc
[10:21] <pag> Daxana, no. just the part I gave you.. no extra arguments needed
[10:22] <pag> adenicio, edit your fstab file to use ntfs-3g driver instead of plain ntfs
[10:25] <Daxana> pag : the name is opera_9.22-2007071.5-share-qt_en_i386.deb
[10:26] <pag> Daxana, do you have opera in your menus? (or does it launch from console?)
[10:26] <pag> Daxana, the programm I mean
[10:26] <adenicio> pag: fstab?
[10:27] <pag> adenicio, thi file... /etc/fstab   it can be edited with sudo vim /etc/fstab
[10:27] <pag> adenicio, ermm.. make that command kdesu kate /etc/fstab  instead
[10:27] <Daxana> pag:Thank you, yes it is there on a menu.
[10:28] <pag> Daxana, if it launches fine, then your installation is done :)
[10:29] <adenicio> pag: and wat do i have to do to rite on the ntfs partion.where do i modifier on the kdesu kate /etc/fstab file?
[10:29] <pag> adenicio, jut replace ntfs with ntfs-3g
[10:29] <Daxana> Pag: wow..it cool. i start like using apt :).
[10:35] <adenicio> pag: ok done that.i try putin a file to my xp partition it says coulld not write to it
[10:35] <pag> adenicio, remount the partition first
[10:35] <pag> adenicio, sudo umount /media/YourWindows && sudo mount -a
[10:36] <vzduch> putin? o0
[10:37] <vzduch> UUID=60684C8E684C653E /media/winxp    ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=de_DE.utf8       0       0
[10:37] <vzduch> hm?  I thought I had some uid and gid settings there..
[10:38] <keh7d> how do I close my "X" session? won't i not have access to the terminal?
[10:43] <vzduch> keh7d: ?
[10:44] <adenicio> pag: wooptydoo it work :-D .i had to open a root konsole and type"mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /media/partion name -o force
[10:44] <adenicio> pag: to mount it back
[10:44] <adenicio> pag tanks
[10:44] <pag> np :)
[10:46] <arun> I have four logical drives on my computer. One of them (40GB) has Windows XP installed on it, the second is a 40GB NTFS drive to store files, the third is a FAT32 partition to share files between my Windows and Kubuntu, and the fourth is a 51GB partition with Kubuntu installed. I want to delete the 40GB NTFS storage partition, and extend my Kubuntu partition to 90GB. I am thinking of doing this using GParted. What would be the best way to go about
[10:46] <arun> this?
[10:47] <arun> anyone?
[10:47] <keh7d> vzduch -- sry. i guess i meant x server
[10:47] <logixoul> Hi. When I yank out the network cable http://localhost (apache2) is still accessible, but ONLY with non-kde apps (wget, firefox...). Any pointers much appreciated.
[10:47] <pag> arun, drives (as in HD's) or do you mean partitions?
[10:47] <arun> logical drives
[10:47] <arun> partitions
[10:48] <vistakiller> keh7d why you want to do this?
[10:49] <keh7d> well i need to close it before i can install a nvidia driver apparently. are there ways around?
[10:49] <pag> arun, so you want to remove second and extend fourth without touching the one between them?
[10:49] <vistakiller> try the envy script
[10:49] <vistakiller> is much easier
[10:49] <pag> !envy
[10:49] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:49] <arun> pag: yes.. remove second and extend fourth without touching the windows partition or the one between them. i also dont want to mess grub up.
[10:50] <vistakiller> i have use it many times whithout prob
[10:50] <vzduch> arun: back up what you have on the 2nd NTFS partition, then grab a live CD, delete the partition and add the space to your Kubuntu partition (if that works; if not, you'll need to reinstall), edit your Kubuntu's fstab and, if need be, /boot/grub/menu.lst & be happy :)
[10:50] <adenicio> pag: arun lol why do i have a felin somethings might go wrong?
[10:50] <adenicio> :-/
[10:50] <vistakiller> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[10:50] <keh7d> ok...it doesn't seem to hard to just close down x server and then run the nvidia shell script
[10:51] <pag> keh7d, why are you running nvidias script?
[10:51] <keh7d> sry. the installer
[10:51] <arun> vzduch: does it usually work? is there a chance extending the partition could go wrong?
[10:51] <pag> keh7d, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:52] <vzduch> arun: as pag pointed out, the fact that the partitions are not behind each other could be a problem
[10:52] <vzduch> I don't know if that's possible
[10:52] <keh7d> pag -- interesting, its doing something. what's it doing again?
[10:52] <pag> keh7d, it's installing the drivers
[10:52] <keh7d> no way!
[10:52] <keh7d> easy.
[10:53] <pag> keh7d, yup...
[10:53] <arun> vzduch: so basically i'm stuck with the ntfs partition?
[10:53] <pag> keh7d, enabling them is the hard part :-/
[10:54] <pag> keh7d, so take backup:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[10:55] <keh7d> pag -- backed up. do you have a link for some enabling instructions?
[10:56] <openorigin> Hello everybody, there is no www-data user or group in my system even after installing LAMP
[10:56] <keh7d> this might work -- http://ramikayyali.com/archives/2005/11/27/nvidia
[10:57] <pag> keh7d, link? I've got a command :)  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:57] <vzduch> arun: only possibility I see that saves both the Winblows install and Kubuntu is removing the NTFS storage partition _and_ the FAT32 partition and create new ones, this time w/ the FAT partition in 2nd place, then you have free space directly before your Kubuntu partition and could add that (if possible, which I don't know)
[10:57] <keh7d> pag -- lol, so hard because...?
[10:57] <arun> vzduch: hmm..
[10:57] <arun> vzduch: thanks
[10:58] <vzduch> but my suggestion would rather be leaving the partitions as-is, only reformatting the 2nd NTFS to ext3 or whatever you like and use that e.g. as /home
[10:58] <pag> keh7d, well.. for me it managed to forget the place of card, so it didn't want to start X
[10:58] <adenicio> pag: how do u format hdd's?
[10:58] <pag> keh7d, so just in case: you can revert your backup by doing sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:58] <arun> vzduch: will i be able to read the ext3 partition from my kubuntu?
[10:59] <vzduch> of course
[10:59] <arun> and if i format that as /home, then what happens to my current home directory
[10:59] <vzduch> arun: you would copy your existing /home over there and mount the new partition as /home
[10:59] <pag> adenicio, gparted is a nice tool  (dd works too, but if used wrong it can cause too great damage so I can't really reccomend that)
[11:00] <keh7d> pag -- yea it didn't want it to be easy for me either (apparently)
[11:00] <arun> vzduch: is that easy to do?
[11:00] <ashokraja> how can i have muliple ssh key based  authentication login to different servers from my machine ?
[11:00] <vzduch> haven't done it yet.. but apart from possible initial permission problems it should be a breeze
[11:01] <adenicio> pag: ok
[11:01] <Lynoure> ashokraja: sure, just repeat the process for each
[11:01] <pag> keh7d, try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:01] <ashokraja> but the is only one public key and one private key i can hold on my machine .
[11:01] <adenicio> pag: feisty dont have a intergrate tool to format?
[11:02] <ashokraja> but there is only one public key and one private key i can hold on my machine .
[11:02] <Lynoure> ashokraja: what's limiting you to that?
[11:02] <arun> vzduch: but then it'll be 40GB for /home and 50GB for the rest of it?
[11:02] <pag> adenicio, it has, but it hasn't got a GUI
[11:03] <pag> adenicio, sudo apt-get install gparted   installs the nice and working GUI for those purposes
[11:03] <Lynoure> ashokraja: and, you can use same pair for different competers if you wish.
[11:03] <vzduch> arun: it's a bit sh*tty, yes.. would perhaps be the best solution to delete everything apart from the Winblows install & create new partitions
[11:03] <Lynoure> s/competers/computers
[11:03] <vzduch> make a 10-15 GB / and a large /home
[11:04] <ashokraja> oh, ok i will try it .. Thanks buddy
[11:04] <Lynoure> ashokraja: good luck
[11:04] <arun> vzduch: yup, seems that way. but if i reinstall kubuntu, can i save all my settings somewhere? i dont want to configure everything all over again
[11:05] <Wiggles> Hi.
[11:05] <arun> hey Wiggles
[11:05] <LinuxAddict> Hey there
[11:05] <Wiggles> I can't seem to use kmail without installing kontact
[11:05] <Wiggles> is there a way around this?
[11:05] <LinuxAddict> kmail runs inside kontact
[11:05] <LinuxAddict> not that i know of
[11:05] <pag> Wiggles, alt+f2 -> kmail
[11:05] <arun> Wiggles: do you have kontact installed?
[11:06] <vzduch> arun: you can back up your /home, your /etc, and there is a way to save your current package selection to a file so you can reinstall those packages later, but the latter I don't know how to do
[11:06] <Wiggles> i do, but i don't need anything  else inside kontact
[11:06] <arun> vzduch: so after i reinstall, i should just replace my /home and /etc folders with my backed up ones?
[11:06] <arun> Wiggles: do what pag said
[11:06] <Wiggles> ok
[11:06] <Wiggles> that works
[11:06] <arun> Wiggles: press alt+f2 and type kmail
[11:07] <vzduch> arun: or at least their content w/ the content of the backups
[11:07] <Wiggles> can I add that to my menu somehow?
[11:07] <arun> vzduch: and that's it?
[11:07] <vzduch> Wiggles: KMail should already be in the menu
[11:07] <vzduch> arun: yep
[11:07] <arun> vzduch: damn i'll have to install my nvidia drivers and all that stuff again
[11:07] <arun> aaaaa
[11:07] <vzduch> putting backups of /home back in the system is what I did a few times now
[11:08] <vzduch> arun: that'll be necessary of course
[11:08] <keh7d> pag -- so I am at the "resolutions" screen, stupid question but how do I "check" (as in mark for keeping) a resolution?
[11:09] <pag> keh7d, space(?)
[11:09] <ashokraja> what is this file ment for --> /home/ashokraja/.ssh/identity ?
[11:09] <keh7d> pag -- nice...
[11:09] <arun> vzduch: i initially formatted that way, because kubuntu was just like a 'hobby' thing. i thought it was cool, so i was using it. but now, after having used it for a couple years, i find that it's become my primary OS for both work and other things.
[11:10] <arun> vzduch: another thing.. what about my samba shared folders? i'm sharing a folder with my vmware/windows installation.. will i have to create everything again after reinstalling?
[11:11] <Lynoure> ashokraja: it's where people often keep their primary ssh private key
[11:12] <vzduch> arun: no idea about that w/o further investigation
[11:12] <Lynoure> ashokraja: you can use  -i identity_file
[11:13] <Lynoure> ashokraja: that lets you specify other file to use
[11:14] <arun> hey Lynoure, how's it going
[11:14] <Lynoure> arun: it's ok. a quiet weekend.
[11:15] <ashokraja> ok buddy
[11:16] <keh7d> pag -- should i restart or anything?
[11:16] <ashokraja> can i put more than one private key in the same file ?
[11:17] <Lynoure> ashokraja: no, you need separate files, I think
[11:18] <Lynoure> ashokraja: you can you ssh-keygen with -f to specify the file it creates
[11:19] <ashokraja> but in my case i want different private key to authenticate different client in to my single server.
[11:20] <trekdanne> isn't there something like $USER/.ssh/authorized/
[11:20] <ashokraja> but that file is to hold the public keys not the private keys
[11:20] <Lynoure> ashokraja: the key you put on the server is the public one, so it is not harmful to use just one keypair
[11:21] <ashokraja> ok
[11:21] <ashokraja> thank to all
[11:21] <Lynoure> oh, went
[11:22] <keh7d> YAY! running nvidia drivers!
[11:23] <pag> keh7d, try that command: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[11:23] <keh7d> got a "yes"
[11:23] <pag> keh7d, and sorry I didn't answer to your previous question - I wasn't at the computer then
[11:24] <keh7d> pag -- no prob.
[11:24] <pag> keh7d, great, it means all works :)  Did you got the resolution right?
[11:24] <keh7d> haha. well no. still stuck at 1024x768
[11:25] <keh7d> also, my refresh rate is limited to 54 Hz
[11:25] <arun> keh7d: you might have to edit your xorg.conf
[11:26] <vzduch> keh7d: there take a look at the 'Section "Monitor"', especially the values for HorizSync and VertRefresh
[11:26] <vzduch> these must match the ranges that your monitor can handle
[11:27] <keh7d> vzduch -- ok, they are set Horiz 30-65 and Vert 50-75.
[11:27] <keh7d> guess i better find out what my monitor can handle.,
[11:28] <vzduch> are these the correct values for your monitor?
[11:28] <keh7d> ill look.
[11:28] <vzduch> if not, change accordingly
[11:29] <adenicio> pad are these stuf we download with adept free?
[11:30] <keh7d> vzduch -- says  Horiz 60 khz and Vert 75 hz, so the ranges should be fine...
[11:31] <vzduch> keh7d: what monitor you have?
[11:31] <keh7d> Dell E153FP
[11:31] <prag2002> evening kubuntu peoples
[11:32] <arun> hey prag2002
[11:32] <vzduch> evening?  you in East Asia or so?
[11:32] <pag> adenicio, everything in adept is free as in beer - most of them are also free as in speech
[11:32] <prag2002> sarchastia...I'm in the US
[11:32] <arun> i never understood the free as in beer phrase
[11:33] <pag> arun, me neither :)
[11:33] <vzduch> arun: 'free as in beer' == at no cost
[11:33] <arun> vzduch: i know what it means
[11:33] <keh7d> where is beer free?
[11:33] <arun> i just dont know where it came from
[11:33] <prag2002> I'm on my way there
[11:34] <arun> what's a 'dock application bar' and 'universal sidebar'
[11:34] <vzduch> keh7d: should be OK.. even though I found specs that say for HorizSync 30-63
[11:35] <arun> ok never mind the universal sidebar, but what's a dock application bar
[11:35] <arun> what purpose does it serve
[11:35] <prag2002> its like the dock on mac?
[11:35] <keh7d> vzduch, i guess manually edit the xorg.conf file is the only way then?
[11:36] <arun> keh7d: back it up first
[11:36] <vzduch> I guess it doesn't really matter if it gives a little more than you have in the specs
[11:36] <vzduch> but you can try though
[11:37] <keh7d> ok. it is still strange to me that the xorg file has many more resolutions listed than are available under "system settings"
[11:38] <pag> arun, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2348707&postcount=10
[11:38] <arun> thanks pag
[11:38] <vzduch> [offtopic]  isn't Pag one of the Adriatic islands of Croatia?
[11:39] <pag> vzduch, huh? :P
[11:39] <vzduch> just wondering =D
[11:40] <linuxcrazy> howdee wiggles
[11:40] <Wiggles> i installed compiz, how do i use it?
[11:40] <linuxcrazy> got a hammer?
[11:41] <Wiggles> what?
[11:41] <linuxcrazy> a hammer
[11:41] <Wiggles> whats a hammer?
[11:41] <linuxcrazy> a tool used for beating nails into wood and other sundry pounding services
[11:42] <vzduch> hehe
[11:42] <Wiggles> why would i need a hammer to use compiz?
[11:43] <linuxcrazy> just thought it might help matters
[11:43] <Wiggles> i don't think it will
[11:43] <Wiggles> i imagine a hammer might make things worse
[11:44] <linuxcrazy> make you feel better, it would, dont lie
[11:44] <Wiggles> lol
[11:49] <linuxcrazy> re 7
[11:49] <keh7d> when i change the reso. settings under "system settings" they don't stay (each time i go back they have reverted to 1024x768)
[11:50] <keh7d> als the refresh values are different than what is listed under xorg.conf...
[11:50] <linuxcrazy> whats your max resolution in your monitor settings in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:50] <keh7d> 1280x960@60 is max
[11:51] <keh7d> but 1280x960@50 is all i can adjust to, and it doesnt stay anyway
[11:51] <vzduch> keh7d: according to the specs I found your monitor has a native res of 1024x768
[11:51] <keh7d> vzduc, does that mean I can't change it?
[11:51] <keh7d> vzduch*
[11:52] <vzduch> at least it's not very handy to use a higher res
[11:53] <pag> !tab | keh7d, just as hint
[11:53] <ubotu> keh7d, just as hint: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:54] <keh7d> ubotu: cool, i knew about the command line. thnx for the tip
[11:54] <Wiggles> i can't find the beryl manager
[11:54] <Wiggles> how can i run it?
[11:54] <keh7d> and ubotu is just a bot. how foolish of me
[11:55] <pag> Wiggles, alt+f2 -> beryl-manager
[11:55] <linuxcrazy> dontcha hate it when that happens keh7d
[11:55] <keh7d> linuxcrazy: yep.
[11:55] <Wiggles> pag: "Could not run the specified command." I get that
[11:56] <pag> Wiggles, do you have it installed?  " sudo apt-get install beryl-manager " in konsole
[11:56] <keh7d> vzduch -- can i circumvent the native reso.?
[11:56] <linuxcrazy> see also: hammer keh7d
[11:58] <Wiggles> uh oh
[11:58] <keh7d> hammer? im not ready to giv up on this frustrating piece of junk.
[11:58] <Wiggles> i ran it and lost my panel and titlebar
[11:59] <pag> Wiggles, panel? -strange...  titlebar? - yup.. I'm not surpriced :-/  alt+f2 -> kwin --replace  should get the titlebar back
[11:59] <vzduch> keh7d: use 1024x768 or buy a monitor that _can_ do 1280x1024
[12:00] <keh7d> vzduch, haha well at least i hav the driver installed
[12:00] <keh7d> damn.
[12:00] <Wiggles> alt+f2 isn't working anymore :(
[12:00] <Wiggles> reboot?
[12:00] <keh7d> thnx everyone. im gna check ebay for a new monitor
[12:01] <pag> Wiggles, maybe... or if you still have konsole open, you can enter the command there too
[12:01] <Wiggles> i lost konsole
[12:03] <setkeh> wassup guys
[12:03] <linuxcrazy> me barely
[12:03] <setkeh> lol
[12:03] <setkeh> has any one here have much experiance with slackware
[12:04] <Wiggles> so... does this mean no beryl?
[12:04] <snipex> im gnome user and i have amarok installed but it refuses to play because there is no mp3 support for it. when it shows message No MP3 Support it stops responding. what packages do i have to install in synaptic ?
[12:05] <pag> snipex, make sure you have enabled multiverse
[12:06] <pag> snipex, and the package is libxine-extracodecs
[12:06] <linuxcrazy> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[12:06] <trekdanne> setkeh: i used to always use slackware before ubuntu
[12:07] <snipex> pag thank you
[12:09] <vzduch> trekdanne: why switch from Slack to *buntu?
[12:09] <setkeh> trekdanne:  i dont know what i buggerd up lol but all i get is a dos like system lol
[12:10] <Wiggles> could it be a driver problem thats messing beryl up?
[12:11] <linuxcrazy> (whispers) hammer hammer hammer
[12:12] <setkeh> does any one know where i screwed up slack ???????
[12:12] <linuxcrazy> this bites, I'm on a friends xp box and I cant play along with our home game
[12:13] <setkeh> btw all my linux os's are runn through vmware i normally run xp for my gameing and linux for nearly the rest
[12:14] <linuxcrazy> ooh how do I remote into a kubuntu box from windoze?
[12:15] <linuxcrazy> I can log on via ssh, but no preety windoze
[12:15] <nobbi> hallo an alle
[12:15] <setkeh> O_o
[12:17] <vzduch> linuxcrazy: ssh is cmdline-only.. if you want teh graphical sh*t you need e.g. VNC
[12:19] <setkeh> vzduch:  i just spent like 2 hours downloading and installing all the packages for ubuntu lol
[12:22] <trekdanne> vzduch, setkeh, overall the difference between slack and ubuntu isn't that big. The main reason I switched to ubuntu was that the slackware team took to long between each releases
[12:23] <trekdanne> too long
[12:24] <trekdanne> and basically some choices are just plain weird, like using the lilo bootloader as default
[12:26] <setkeh> lol im just downloading as many distros as i cand find an installing them to vm ware but i tried to install slackware but i messed something up i think as it only acts like windows DOS
[12:27] <vzduch> setkeh: Slack doesn't start a GUI by default
[12:27] <vzduch> you have to manually invoke it  startx
[12:28] <setkeh> vzduch:  startx ????? thats what starts it ?????
[12:28] <vzduch> setkeh: yep
[12:28] <waylandbill> setkeh: slack may not be an initial choice of distros
[12:29] <trekdanne> hmm install kdm and make it go to runlevel 5
[12:29] <waylandbill> setkeh: it assumes you know the workings of the system well.
[12:30] <bjwebb> hi
[12:30] <trekdanne> slackware is generally depleated, however the BSD-styled init file is kinda nice
[12:30] <setkeh> i am a fiddler lol i just like playing around with new things lol
[12:30] <trekdanne> !hi | bjwebb
[12:30] <ubotu> bjwebb: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:30] <bjwebb> where could i find a list of all codecs i need to install ontop of a fresh kubuntu
[12:31] <setkeh> thats why i am playing with linux atm lol
[12:31] <bjwebb> so i can just do one big apt-get command
[12:31] <trekdanne> !codecs
[12:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:32] <trekdanne> but mainly "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" and fetching the binary codecs from MPlayers homepage should do the trick
[12:33] <bjwebb> hmm okay
[12:33] <waylandbill> setkeh: keep in mind that slack doesn't have anything as advanced as apt. Many things have to be installed from source with you being responsible for the prerequisites. It'll teach you alot of how linux works though.
[12:34] <setkeh> waylandbill:  well im just about to shut down thin virtual machine and start up slacks one and try this "startx"' thing and have a look lol
[12:35] <setkeh> be back in about 10 - 15 mins
[12:35] <cplusplus> what is the /proc filesystem?
[12:35] <trekdanne> hmm, I find the ./configure, make, make install cycle just rather cumbersome, it I not gonna customize anything anyway
[12:36] <trekdanne> cplusplus: a way for the kernel to get information to applications
[12:36] <trekdanne> or rather make the information available in userspace
[12:37] <trekdanne> and it works the other way too, i must point out
[12:37] <trekdanne> you can set stuff up in the kernel by changing stuff under /proc
[12:38] <cplusplus> ok
[12:39] <trekdanne> it isn't files as files on a hard drive but virtual files as FIFOs and stuff
[12:39] <cplusplus> its a virtual filesystem?
[12:39] <waylandbill> yes, in memory..
[12:40] <waylandbill> cplusplus: this may help: http://www.freeos.com/articles/2879/
[12:40] <cplusplus> what is /root used for?
[12:40] <trekdanne> generally the home directory of the root user
[12:41] <birol> ola
[12:41] <cplusplus> ah just the home dir of root?
[12:41] <cplusplus> ups
[12:41] <trekdanne> hi birol
[12:42] <trekdanne> !es
[12:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:42] <cRy089> ;)
[12:42] <waylandbill> cplusplus: the Table 3-2 on this page explains the various directories found in a typical linux system: http://linuxbasics.org/course/book/sect_03_01
[12:42] <cplusplus> then i need to find out the difference between /bin /sbin and /usr/sbin ....
[12:42] <cplusplus> thats in the book?
[12:43] <trekdanne> note that the names are arbitrary and differ among linux distros.
[12:44] <cplusplus> each linux distry has /bin and /sbin
[12:44] <trekdanne> hmm yea
[12:44] <waylandbill> cplusplus: they dont have too but usually do in a 'typical' situation.
[12:46] <trekdanne> you may want to research the $PATH  var also if you are unfamilar with how the file system lookup works
[12:48] <ijuz> when i press the sleep button on my laptop the suspend to ram (or more exact the resume) fails, but when i start /etc/apt/sleep.sh it works... has somebody an idea what in kde is screwing up the process?
[12:48] <waylandbill> cplusplus: that whole book is a great read.
[12:48] <cplusplus> they dont write a lot about /bin and /sbin
[12:49] <trekdanne> hmm cplusplus, IIRC sbin is sort for super binary, programs made to be run by the super user, root
[12:50] <lockd> anyone know what ssbin means, I've seen it some places but not Ubuntu
[12:50] <cplusplus> yeah but i see a /usr/sbin ...
[12:50] <cplusplus> thats not only for root?
[12:50] <waylandbill> cplusplus: /usr/sbin is 'non-essential' system binaries
[12:51] <lockd> like iwconfig, and things - they just aren't essential to a running system
[12:51] <cplusplus> and bin ?
[12:51] <cplusplus> all other binaries
[12:51] <trekdanne> waylandbill: hmm so "sbin" is short for "system binary" not "super binary"
[12:51] <cplusplus> oh
[12:51] <waylandbill> it's really a hold over from the unix file system standard; http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/index.html#TOC
[12:52] <waylandbill> trekdanne: yeah. system.
[12:52] <trekdanne> ok sorry
[12:52] <lockd> waylandbill: It's a hold over maybe, but there's no reason to change
[12:52] <trekdanne> isn't there a "linux distro" file system standard too?
[12:53] <waylandbill> lockd: maybe an inheritence of is a better way to put it.
[12:54] <trekdanne> hmm but it does exist a standard how the files should be put in direcories under a linux system so linux distos will be compatible
[12:54] <trekdanne> i don't recall that POSIX  specifies where the files should be ?? am i correct?
[12:55] <lockd> trekdanne: AFAICT it doesn't, because even NT kernel qualifies
[12:57] <lockd> trekdanne: as far as file system standard, there's the linux filesystem hierarchy.. I don't know any distros that don't use it
[12:59] <waylandbill> distros aren't required to use the typical hierarchy though since open source can let them change the code to how they like and then redistribute it.
[12:59] <trekdanne> lockd: hmm yea that's it
[01:00] <lockd> waylandbill: well, -distributions- can't really do that
[01:00] <trekdanne> waylandbill: you're right ofc. but there is a project that "enforce" compatibilty between distros
[01:01] <trekdanne> and they are kinda hard that "dd" should be under /bin etc ...
[01:01] <lockd> trekdanne: why not? it's not a system binary, and it's useful to single user systems
[01:01] <coup1> exit
[01:03] <trekdanne> lockd: ??
[01:03] <lockd> waylandbill: other (non-packaged) programs could cough on a non-standard hierarchy
[01:03] <trekdanne> lol @ coup1
[01:03] <waylandbill> not part of the base system of course... such as some distros put kde in /usr/bin and others under /opt.
[01:03] <lockd> trekdanne: dd should be under /bin for those reasons
[01:04] <lockd> trekdanne: things only useful to multi-user systems = /usr/*
[01:04] <trekdanne> lockd: ah. just an example
[01:04] <trekdanne> lockd: that this project has made a standard where it says "dd go under /bin"
[01:06] <waylandbill> trekdanne: what's the name of the project, btw?
[01:06] <trekdanne> am not sure
[01:07] <trekdanne> and a quick google doesn't find anything either
[01:07] <trekdanne> but i'm pretty sure it does exist
[01:07] <trekdanne> at least a few years ago
[01:10] <AngelEyes1701> Hi, I am looking for some assistance with configuring my screen refresh rate?
[01:11] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: are you using the nvidia binary driver?
[01:12] <Taatelipalmu> Hi, I need a little help. I have a FAT32 disk I want to use as storage in both windows and linux, but I'm unable to change the permissions. I try to change them in super user konqueror, (Right Click > properties... Permissions), but it won't do it. No error message or anything, it just closes the properties window without changing anything. What should I do?
[01:13] <cplusplus> did u change it under windows?
[01:13] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "The kexi package is part of the KDE Office Suite." I am going to stay with my OO.o Office. When installing kexi, would I have to install a lot of general-purpose KDE program packages also?
[01:13] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: on IRC the prefered way to spefify to whom you are talking is using the nick like this <-
[01:14] <Taatelipalmu> When I ran konqueror, it gave me two "X error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device ###" might that have anything to do with it?
[01:14] <Taatelipalmu> cplusplus: I formatted the partition under a xubuntu livecd
[01:14] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: so do you have a nvidia card?
[01:14] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: Like so?
[01:14] <trekdanne> yes exactkly
[01:14] <cplusplus> do you use samba?
[01:14] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: Not a clue. It's a new desktop and the screencard is onboard.
[01:15] <sinep> i need a good flashplayer for firefox and a media player that can replace windows media player... Any recommendations on this?
[01:15] <Taatelipalmu> Not that I know of. That's for file sharin, right..? Do I need it for using the partition cross-OS?
[01:15] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: How would i go about figuring out what kind of screen card I have?
[01:16] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: hmm running lspci in a console should do the trick
[01:16] <Taatelipalmu> Kubuntu is pretty much in the state I installed it in
[01:16] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: you know how to do that?
[01:17] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: Yeah I do have some geek in me. :)
[01:17] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: Seems what I am looking for is:  VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 3343 (rev 01)
[01:17] <waylandbill> Taatelipalmu: you need to set the default mask that mount uses for that paritition.
[01:17] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: Or "VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 3343 (rev 01)" to be more exact.
[01:18] <Taatelipalmu> Mkay, how do I do that? (/linux newb)
[01:18] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: the second I think
[01:18] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: It's the same line. I just copied only half of it the first time. :)
[01:18] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: actually I'm not familar with VIA's cards ? do they actually do 3d-cards
[01:19] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: I have no idea. It's an onboard card, as I've said.
[01:19] <cplusplus>  /opt is used for packages right?
[01:20] <waylandbill> Taatelipalmu: one way is in the fstab. This page explains a little: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[01:20] <vzduch> /opt is almost unused these days
[01:20] <cplusplus> why?
[01:20] <trekdanne> !ati
[01:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:20] <vzduch> cplusplus: ask the packagers
[01:21] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: nvm the bot wait a sec plz
[01:21] <Taatelipalmu> Okay, will try. Thanks waylandbill.
[01:21] <vzduch> only thing i have in /opt is CrossOver
[01:22] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: you may need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:22] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: I am not used to feeling like such a n00b. It's just that Linux requires some getting used to.
[01:23] <setkeh> i got into slack lol
[01:23] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: Why and how?
[01:23] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: hmm i'm thinking if there's some automatically way to do this
[01:23] <setkeh> but my keyboard doesent like it much it keeps ssssssssstttttrrrrreeeecccchhhiiinnnnggg my words in a random fasion lol
[01:24] <waylandbill> setkeh: increase the repeat rate delay in kcontrol
[01:24] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: xorg takes care of the display and graphic card drivers and stuff and /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the main configuration file
[01:24] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: It took me several hours to get Linux to read my old Windows HDs. Now I just want the screen to stop blinking...
[01:25] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: Yeah, that much i did figure out from some extensive Googling.
[01:25] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: did you use to download some drivers to windows to make the card work?
[01:26] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: This desktop is a Windows virgin. It has never been touched by Microsoft. I wanted her to be an open source only machine.
[01:27] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: But I am beginning to seriously consider making her a dual-boot.
[01:27] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: ah ok. try to run "kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:27] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: hmm yea as you said it takes some time to get used too
[01:28] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: scroll down to the "Section "Monitor""
[01:28] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: Computer says: "kwrite: not found"
[01:28] <trekdanne> are you running kubuntu?
[01:28] <setkeh> waylandbill:  ill write it down so when i boot it up again i can change it :D i cant at the mment lol as its on vmware an im useing ubuntu on vmware at the moment because my host os is downloading lol and im talking to mah missus lol
[01:28] <trekdanne> or ordinary ubunutu?
[01:29] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: I haven't got a clue?
[01:29] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: How do I check?
[01:29] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: ah you probably run ubuntu
[01:29] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: And what's the difference?
[01:30] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: Is that a good or a bad thing?
[01:30] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE and ubuntu is ubuntu with GNOME
[01:30] <waylandbill> shouldn't matter for changing X parameters. both should be the same in that regard.
[01:30] <trekdanne> yea
[01:31] <trekdanne> but i've always used kubuntu :P
[01:31] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: If only I knew what that meant...
[01:31] <lockd> it just depends on what desktop environment you like, and which applications you use most
[01:31] <trekdanne> try something like: sudo gwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:31] <Wiggles> how can i set beryl to automaticly run when i start my computer?
[01:32] <waylandbill> !Autostart
[01:32] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[01:32] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: I think it hates me. Computer says: "sudo: gwrite: command not found"
[01:32] <trekdanne> people here tends to prefer KDE and Qt-based apps, but it is just a matter of personal preference and isn't that important to system settings and stuff
[01:33] <trekdanne> nah i'm just unfamilar with the gnome editor stuff :P
[01:33] <waylandbill> AngelEyes1701: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:34] <AngelEyes1701> waylandbill: "kate: not found"
[01:34] <trekdanne> i think he's running ubuntu
[01:34] <lockd> trekdanne: aren't you supposed to use gksu for graphical sudo?
[01:34] <trekdanne> lockd: yea that's probably right
[01:34] <AngelEyes1701> trekdanne: Ahem, I am a she.
[01:35] <trekdanne> ah ok sorry, just asumes everyone here's a he
[01:35] <lockd> trekdanne: kde is more finicky about that it seems
[01:35] <waylandbill> AngelEyes1701: they're is what he meant.. really. ;-)
[01:35] <AngelEyes1701> Just because I installed Linux doesn't make me a guy! Sheesh. :-P
[01:36] <lockd> trekdanne: I just avoid pronouns at all costs
[01:36] <trekdanne> hmm did you try "gksu gwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:37] <lockd> or just sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:37] <AngelEyes1701> First one did nothing.
[01:37] <trekdanne> yea listen to lockd
[01:38] <AngelEyes1701> Second one appears to have done something.
[01:38] <lockd> I don't know which are installed by default in ubuntu
[01:38] <trekdanne> me either :P
[01:38] <danimo> moin!
[01:38] <trekdanne> so basically nano/kwrite/etc is text editors like notepad under windows
[01:38] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: nano is a text editor.. if you want a more familiar one you can always 'sudo aptitude install gedit' or something like that
[01:39] <trekdanne> if you didn't figure
[01:39] <waylandbill> the guys (and gals) over at #ubuntu would probably know better about what's installed by default. :-)
[01:39] <AngelEyes1701> Aha! I think I found something.
[01:39] <AngelEyes1701> Section "Device"
[01:39] <AngelEyes1701>         Identifier      "Generic Video Card"
[01:39] <AngelEyes1701>         Driver          "vesa"
[01:39] <AngelEyes1701>         BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[01:39] <lockd> !paste | AngelEyes1701
[01:39] <ubotu> AngelEyes1701: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:39] <AngelEyes1701> Sowwy.
[01:39] <lockd> that isn't so bad but you can pastebin your whole xorg.conf
[01:40] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: I think the "Section "Monitor"" may be relevant
[01:40] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: what's the problem with X?
[01:40] <AngelEyes1701> Is there a need for the whole thing? It just seems my video card is installed with a generic driver. And I somehow need to figure out which driver to install to make the screen be less blinky.
[01:41] <AngelEyes1701> Section "Monitor"
[01:41] <AngelEyes1701>         Identifier      "Q995"
[01:41] <AngelEyes1701>         Option          "DPMS"
[01:41] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: do you have ati or nvidia? or neither?
[01:41] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: I don't have a clue. New desktop, onboard video card, never had Windows on it.
[01:42] <waylandbill> lockd: it might not be either one.
[01:42] <ijuz> AngelEyes1701: so pastebin lspci
[01:42] <AngelEyes1701> I might just install Windows, set up SiSoft Sandra and then install Ubuntu so I can know what drivers to set up. Might make my life easier.
[01:42] <trekdanne> lspci says "VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 3343 (rev 01)"
[01:42] <AngelEyes1701> ijuz: I did that.
[01:43] <AngelEyes1701> Exactly.
[01:43] <lockd> waylandbill: guess it wasn't either
[01:43] <setkeh> omg
[01:43] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: does it blink without action, or is it "flicker" when you move windows?
[01:44] <setkeh> kopete crashed again
[01:44] <AngelEyes1701> But I do think it got the monitor right. I have a Hyundai ImageQuest Q995 for a screen.
[01:44] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: It's just a really low refresh rate driving my eyes insane.
[01:44] <setkeh> lol
[01:44] <sailor> !encryption
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encryption - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <waylandbill> AngelEyes1701: that's because of the vesa driver. it'
[01:44] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: please pastebin the entire xorg.conf to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:44] <setkeh> is there a better messinger client ??????
[01:45] <sailor> does anyone know if there is a howto on setting up folder encryption?
[01:45] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: I can't get it over 65.
[01:45] <waylandbill> it's like the fallback driver.
[01:45] <sailor> !crypt
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <lockd> sailor: best way would be mounting encrypted images as "loopbacks"
[01:46] <trekdanne> AngelEyes1701: hmm the problem is probably the "vesa" driver as you say
[01:46] <waylandbill> AngelEyes1701: without knowing more specifically what card it is, it's hard to know what driver is correct. The lspci doesn't tell enough for some reason.
[01:46] <lockd> well, lspci -a shows more, correct?
[01:46] <sailor> lockd: cool sounds good. i could set one up as a device on the desktop to right mouse click / mount / unmout etc. which fs / crypto is the best to use?
[01:47] <lockd> sailor: for simplicity's sake I would use ext3
[01:47] <trekdanne> lockd: but that's just PCI UUIDs and stuff, i recon
[01:47] <setkeh> is there a better messinger client than kopete for ubuntu ???????
[01:47] <trekdanne> setkeh: gaim?
[01:47] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: I pasted the whole thing to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33324/
[01:48] <sailor> lockd: and any particular crypto algo? and do you know of any howtos?
[01:48] <setkeh> trekdanne:  doese it work for MSN ????
[01:49] <waylandbill> setkeh: gaim does, yes.
[01:49] <setkeh> waylandbill:  thanks mate :D cuz it just crashed again i dont think it like the whole webcam thing much lol
[01:49] <lockd> sailor: look up loop-aes
[01:50] <sailor> lockd: cheers
[01:51] <Tabmows> is there anyway to figure out how much kbps an interface is doing at any one time?
[01:51] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: Is the pasted thing any help?
[01:52] <trekdanne> Tabmows: ksysguard can show that IIRC
[01:52] <Tabmows> i was thinking more a cmd line thing? so i can put it in a script
[01:52] <sailor> lockd: hmm, i didnt want to create a loopback file as i dont want to put a limmit on the encrypted folder. Whats the next best option?
[01:53] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: no, but if it does have to do with "vesa" I don't know which driver you would need
[01:53] <ijuz> sailor: encfs
[01:53] <_da> can one copy a DVD?
[01:53] <cplusplus> what is the /var directory used for?
[01:53] <sailor> ijuz: cheers ill check it out :)
[01:54] <waylandbill> cplusplus: files that change often.
[01:54] <cplusplus> config files?
[01:54] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: So it looks like I'll have to run Windows after all. Bummer.
[01:54] <waylandbill> cplusplus: unix used that when hdd's where smaller and the file system could potentially fill up.
[01:55] <setkeh> GAIM keeps crashing aswell lol
[01:55] <trekdanne> _da: yes, k3b can do that for you
[01:55] <cplusplus> why?
[01:55] <waylandbill> cplusplus: config files are in /etc  (edittable text configuration)
[01:55] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: maybe not
[01:55] <cplusplus> vars are like backup files?
[01:56] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: it said VIA, and well it's via motherboard
[01:56] <sailor> strange why konq is telling me my samba shares dont exist. lol cant even see my own smb shares :D
[01:56] <cplusplus> i mean resizing of a disk?
[01:56] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: let me try searching for via vesa flicker
[01:56] <waylandbill> cplusplus: they are "variable files"
[01:56] <cplusplus> yeah...
[01:57] <vzduch> cplusplus: files w/ variable size, mostly logs and mail spools
[01:57] <cplusplus> logs
[01:57] <cplusplus> ok
[01:57] <cplusplus> syslog;)
[01:57] <AngelEyes1701> And to top it all, IRC is lagging on me like crazy. Wah.
[01:57] <waylandbill> cplusplus: no. they were put on another drive or partition because drives were small and filling the root filesystem on a server would be disasterous.
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> And for some reason, Ubuntu puts stuff like Apache's web root and MySQL's data directory in /var
[01:58] <vzduch> no lag here
[01:58] <AngelEyes1701> I'll be off to install teh Windoze on my shiny dual-core desktop. I feel like a bad person. Bye all!
[01:58] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: wait, i have the pkg name
[01:58] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: ?
[01:58] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-via
[01:59] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: It ran something and said: "No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed."
[01:59] <[ifr0g] > gpg : Why do we generate a revocation certificate for our key ?
[02:00] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: oh, perhaps it's already installed.. you can try changing vesa to via
[02:00] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: In the configruation file?
[02:00] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: yes, then ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X
[02:00] <cplusplus> waylandbill:  unix used that when hdd's where smaller and the file system could potentially fill up.   ...how could a harddisk become smaller?
[02:00] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: How do I revive X then?
[02:01] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: gdm or kdm should take care of that
[02:02] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: if it doesn't then switch back to vesa
[02:02] <Tabmows> [ifr0g] , in case someone gets the private key... you just revoke it and the recovation cert and create a new key pair
[02:05] <[ifr0g] > Tabmow,  cant is simply create a new key with out the recovation cetificate using..  --gen-key
[02:05] <waylandbill> cplusplus: they were smaller historically.
[02:06] <waylandbill> cplusplus: /var just was inherited too. :-)
[02:06] <cplusplus> because clusters are corrupted?;)
[02:06] <setkeh> waylandbill: anythinng elese i need to fix in slack ????
[02:06] <Tabmows> [ifr0g] , yes, but if someone else has your priv cert they can impersonate you... hence why you want to revocate it
[02:07] <sailor> ijuz: how could i set up encfs using just an icon on the desktop? ie right mouse click mount / unmount etc? or would i have to make a script to do it?
[02:08] <[ifr0g] > Tabmow, if i can create another key and distrobute my public key again.. All my truted friends can use the new one right ?
[02:08] <Tabmows> yes
[02:08] <AngelEyes1701> Well, I am back.
[02:09] <sailor> ijuz: do you think it would be easier to use libpam-encfs ?
[02:09] <AngelEyes1701> Trying to change "vesa" to "via" in the conf file made the computer tell me I have no screen and refuse to give me anything but console until I switched it back and restarted.
[02:09] <[ifr0g] > Tabmow, i only see it useful to revoke your key if the passphase is forgotten.. am i right ?
[02:10] <Tabmows> not necessarily.. if someone has obtained your private key, and they have your password or it is a passwordless key then you will want to revoke it
[02:11] <[ifr0g] > Tabmow, huh, because it sends and up date to the key server..
[02:12] <[ifr0g] > i did not notice that.
[02:12] <ijuz> sailor: no idea... i just use it on the console, i'm to lazy to find out anything else
[02:15] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: yuck
[02:16] <[ifr0g] > Tabmow, when you first create your key does it add you to the keyserver automatically..
[02:16] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[02:17] <Tabmows> [ifr0g] , what do you mean by the keyserver?
[02:17] <[ifr0g] > Tabmow, http://pgp.mit.edu/
[02:18] <Tabmows> i am pretty sure it doesn't do it automatically.. depends how you go about creating your keypair though
[02:18] <sailor> ijuz: lol
[02:20] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: That looks very time consuming. I guess I will play with that when I am done with my university homework in Database System Concepts - speaking of yuck.
[02:20] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: Bye for now, I will be back.
[02:20] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: did you says something about SiS?
[02:20] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: before, I recall you mentioning that on windows
[02:21] <[ifr0g] > Tabmow, huh, lookes like revoking a key is useless with out the keyserver. cause when you revoke it you have to send it to the keyserver.. without which there is no way of telling your trusted friends about the change.
[02:21] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: Nope. My old desktop had SiS and Windows. This one's new.
[02:21] <Tabmows> [ifr0g] , i don't use a keyserver, i distribute my public key myself...
[02:22] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: have you pastebin'ed your lspci?
[02:22] <[ifr0g] > Tabmow, so did you create a revocation certificate ?
[02:22] <Tabmows> yes
[02:23] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: Yes.
[02:23] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: link?
[02:23] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: Yes. I pasted the URL before I had to restart.
[02:23] <[ifr0g] > Tabmow, then could you type the command you would use to revoke it OR How would you inform your trusted friends about the change ?
[02:23] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: Scroll up, it's there somewhere.
[02:24] <[ifr0g] > if ever was to e compromised.
[02:25] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: just run lspci and upload to pastebin
[02:25] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: that wasn't even the full output
[02:25] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: i'm on windows irssi, so I can only scroll about 2 pages
[02:26] <Tabmows> [ifr0g] , http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/c14.html
[02:27] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: What's the place to paste it again?
[02:27] <vzduch> !paste | AngelEyes1701
[02:27] <ubotu> AngelEyes1701: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:27] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:28] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33329/
[02:29] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: thanks
[02:29] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: No, thank you. I am being a n00b and you're helping. For which I am grateful beyond words.
[02:31] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: does the X windows seem to open in "sheets"?
[02:32] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: Not sure what that means.
[02:34] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[02:34] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: sudo aptitude install ^
[02:35] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: then try setting the driver="unichrome"
[02:35] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: Okay, it had some issues, I thinks.
[02:35] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: can you pastebin the actual output of that?
[02:36] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33331/
[02:38] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: just try setting driver = "unichrome", it looks as if it just can't handle having both installed
[02:38] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: Where and how do I set it so it won't decide I don't have a screen anymore?
[02:40] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: under Section "Device", replace Driver "vesa" with Driver "unichrome"
[02:40] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: In xorg.conf?
[02:41] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: but I still can't be sure it will work, so if it doesn't I might be able to tell from /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:41] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: yes, in xorg.conf, under section "device"
[02:41] <AngelEyes1701> lockd: Okay, changed. Now what should I do?
[02:42] <lockd> AngelEyes1701: wait, try reinstalling xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[02:42] <lockd> BAH, it didn't finish installing because of some stupid negative score
[02:43] <lockd> this stupid thing with the instant you detach an X client you kill it is driving me nuts
[02:57] <setkeh> WOW lol
[03:07] <constantinosm> hi
[03:07] <rafel> hi
[03:07] <rafel> holaaaaa
[03:07] <rafel> you spain?
[03:07] <constantinosm> cy
[03:08] <rafel> como te llamas?
[03:08] <constantinosm> cyprus
[03:09] <rafel> yo Rafa
[03:12] <constantinosm> ole
[03:14] <constantinosm> i want help
[03:16] <constantinosm> help
[03:17] <Vorian> !ask | constantinosm
[03:17] <ubotu> constantinosm: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:19] <constantinosm> i have two pc in my network and i want to conevtec
[03:20] <constantinosm> connect (sorry)
[03:32] <graffio_dell_ani> ciao a tutti
[03:32] <cplusplus>  italiano?
[03:32] <cplusplus> roma?
[03:33] <graffio_dell_ani> italiano asti
[03:34] <rafel> holaaaaa
[03:34] <cplusplus> da dove venite?
[03:34] <rafel> what?
[03:35] <rafel> hola
[03:36] <graffio_dell_ani> somethings use a kde firewall interface (as firestarter)?
[03:36] <rafel> hallo Lunar
[03:43] <zerozero> what file contains your video settings?
[03:43] <trekdanne> what do you mean "video settings"
[03:44] <zerozero> the driver
[03:46] <stdin> zerozero: you mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:54] <saylar> hey guys
[03:54] <bo> hi
[03:54] <trekdanne> !hi | saylar
[03:54] <ubotu> saylar: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:54] <saylar> is anyone of you familiar with lcd4linux?
[03:55] <zerozero> i accidently killed my session
[03:55] <saylar> i'm  thinking of buying a htpc with a lcd display and want to make sure that the hardware is working with kubuntu
[03:56] <saylar> any ideas?
[03:56] <saylar> or a hint where to look, besides google? ;)
[03:58] <chandru> Has anyone used compiz-kde with kubuntu feisty?
[03:59] <bo> hm, depends on the build in display and the used controller - saylar
[04:00] <chandru> I've a problem with compiz-kde on kubuntu.  The window decorations disapper
[04:00] <_MPS_> hi
[04:00] <saylar> bo, i just found the supported hardware section at lcd4linux. that might be helpfull ;)
[04:00] <khalil> hello all
[04:01] <khalil> :)
[04:01] <saylar> i'm just an idiot
[04:01] <_MPS_> i'm using sim for icq. does anyone know how to tell sim that it doesn't send my internal and external ip?
[04:01] <khalil> server mircirc
[04:03] <realkren> hi folks
[04:04] <realkren> I newly installed ubuntu
[04:04] <realkren> and I want to activate the desktop effects! how can I do? anybody can help?
[04:05] <saylar> you mean beryl/compiz, realkren?
[04:06] <realkren> when I click on the desktop effects it says composite extesion is not available
[04:06] <realkren> yes, saylar
[04:07] <realkren> saylar, can you help me?
[04:07] <saylar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIGLX#AIGLX_with_AMD_.28ex-ATI.29_Proprietary_Drivers
[04:07] <saylar> look here
[04:08] <realkren> ok, thank you
[04:08] <saylar> ati ist still a royal pain in the ass
[04:08] <saylar> pardon my french
[04:12] <realkren> saylar, I am using ati display card. is it the problem?
[04:14] <saylar> yeah, kind of.
[04:15] <saylar> but i'm not really familiar with that problem, since I have an nvidia card ;)
[04:15] <saylar> sorry
[04:16] <saylar> maybe you should look at the wiki and or ubuntu forum
[04:18] <realkren> ok thanks saylar
[04:19] <saylar> np
[04:21] <BorisYaltsin> Hi, Is there anything special I should know about dual booting vista vs xp?
[04:22] <linuxcrazy> ok, ok, thinkpad 770 and kubuntu?
[04:22] <setkeh> how do i shut slack down it keeps forcing a scan for impropper unmount
[04:23] <linuxcrazy> recovery mode then run a manual fsck?
[04:23] <setkeh> O_o
[04:23] <linuxcrazy> sorry if thats not right, its early here
[04:24] <ronin_> Morning everyone. Anyone have ClamAV experience?
[04:24] <setkeh> linuxcrazy: LOL i logoff and type shutdown and it comes up with a list of all these othe commands and i try them and it dont work \
[04:25] <linuxcrazy> uno momento
[04:26] <setkeh> ok guys im ouut for the night ill catch you all later
[04:27] <ronin_> Does anyone have experience with ClamAV, or Synaptics touchpads?
[04:28] <linuxcrazy> nothing but good exp with them
[04:28] <linuxcrazy> is the lappy 9000 misbehaving?
[04:28] <linuxcrazy> :)
[04:28] <ronin_> Could you help me getting mine working? Last time tried the wiki method for the touchpad, I killed X somehow
[04:31] <ronin_> Did yours have that thing where it thinks its a Wacom?
[04:31] <linuxcrazy> "sudo apt-get install xfree86-driver-synaptics"
[04:31] <linuxcrazy> "sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/synaptics_drv.o /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.o"
[04:32] <linuxcrazy> and reboot
[04:32] <ronin_> Will that be cool with ksynaptics, which I have all ready installed (tho not working)
[04:33] <linuxcrazy> it should uninstall the ksynaptics one
[04:35] <ronin_> looking at adept, I all ready have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics.
[04:35] <linuxcrazy> if it doesnt automatically uninstall it then apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in the konsole
[04:35] <linuxcrazy> this is a workaround
[04:38] <linuxcrazy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/47971
[04:38] <linuxcrazy> there you go ronin
[04:39] <ronin_> Ahhhh I seee. Thanks.
[04:39] <linuxcrazy> quite welcome
[04:40] <linuxcrazy> as far as clamav do apt-get install klamav and itll work great with kubuntu
[04:40] <ronin_> I have both of them clam/Klam installed, but when I try and run the update to get the latest version it tosses me an error saying my C compiler can't make executables or something
[04:41] <linuxcrazy> "sudo apt-get install gcc"
[04:41] <ronin_> Strangely enough, I checked that and adept reports it installed.
[04:42] <linuxcrazy> sorry I'm on a friends xp box and cant play along with the home game
[04:43] <ronin_> Ahhh its all right. Thanks anyway. I've got a lot of the gcc tools that installed with kubuntu 7.04 installed, so I'm a bit lost.
[04:44] <ronin_> Wine finishes updating I'll scan through them...maybe I'm missing one I need?
[04:44] <linuxcrazy> could beee try g++ too it wont hurt anything
[04:44] <jhutchins> !build
[04:44] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:44] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:45] <blackinside> Canal for a french language ?
[04:45] <linuxcrazy> rue de la merde?
[04:46] <llutz> !fr| blackinside
[04:46] <ubotu> blackinside: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:46] <caravaka> hi. i suddenly see a lot of blocked requests coming from my machine in the firestarter events.
[04:47] <caravaka> mostly the services are gatecrasher, mdns, pop3s and igmp
[04:47] <caravaka> does that mean i have a trojan?
[04:49] <llutz> caravaka: that means, that you have to check what app causes the requests
[04:49] <caravaka> llutz: how do i do that?
[04:50] <bjwebb> what does the --purge flag for apt-get remove?
[04:50] <llutz> caravaka: use appropriate tools like netstat, lsof, ps etc.
[04:51] <caravaka> ok shall do
[04:51] <ksivaji> man apt
[04:51] <caravaka> but what is the gatecrasher protocol? is it a trojan?
[04:51] <ksivaji> !virus
[04:51] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:52] <llutz> caravaka: you are using torrent-software?
[04:52] <caravaka> yes, i used ktorrent
[04:52] <caravaka> actually, it started after i started using ktorrent
[04:53] <llutz> gatecrusher is a protocol used in connection with bittorent
[04:53] <llutz> caravaka: if you don#t know about all that and using p2p-software too, you don't need a (logging) "firewall"
[04:55] <caravaka> llutz: are you saying that using p2p software makes me vulnerable? or that i should just ignore those logs because they're harmless?
[04:56] <llutz> caravaka: if you cannot interprete the "firewall-Logs" the "firewall" is useless, so deinstall it
[04:56] <llutz> caravaka: p2p-soft always is a security-risk
[04:57] <Lopin> !wireless
[04:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:57] <caravaka> llutz: ok, i'll learn more about the p2p risks. thanks llutz. for a min there i thought i was hacked or something :)
[04:59] <llutz> caravaka: learn to configure your system, hold it in an actual state, use security-updates an you don't need any filtering software
[05:00] <caravaka> llutz: i always update my system everyday (autoupdate adept). what else should i configure or where can i get more info?
[05:01] <llutz> caravaka: sorry i only know german-sites with more info, but google should show you english sites if you search for
[05:01] <mcantor> I can't view .avi files in Kubuntu 7.04 with VLC, Kaffeine or mplayer.  I've installed all of the appropriate packages and switched to totem-xine from gstreamer.  Why won't it work?
[05:02] <caravaka> llut: that's ok, i'll try to find some. but what did you mean when you said i should configure my system? configure exactly what? i'll search google for it.
[05:03] <llutz> caravaka: make sure you're running only services you really need, inform you about risks of used software etc.pp
[05:04] <caravaka> llutz: oh ok. i'll do that. i'll try running nmap and see open ports and close what's not needed and stuff. thanks llutz.
[05:04] <emilsedgh> mcantor: have you installed libxine-extracodecs package too?
[05:05] <mcantor> emilsedgh: Yes.
[05:06] <blueyed> Hi. Which service is responsible for catching e.g. ALT-F2 or other global shortcuts?
[05:07] <blueyed> Seems like I have to restart it.
[05:08] <trekdanne> blueyed: kdesktop ?
[05:09] <emilsedgh> blueyed: SystemSettings-->computerAdministration->Keyboard shortcuts
[05:09] <emilsedgh> blueyed: SystemSettings-->computerAdministration->Keyboard & Mouse->Keyboard shortcuts
[05:10] <ubuntu_> i am an absolute newbie to linux
[05:10] <ubuntu_> someone please help me
[05:10] <trekdanne> ubuntu_: what do you need help with?
[05:10] <koko1710> erm....
[05:10] <koko1710> how to install flash in firefox?
[05:10] <koko1710> that one still boggles me so much!
[05:11] <mcantor> Anyone?  Why can't I watch .avi files?
[05:11] <blueyed> koko1710: install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:11] <koko1710> where to download flash-plugin nonfree?
[05:11] <trekdanne> K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs
[05:11] <llutz> koko1710:sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:11] <emilsedgh> koko1710: From Adept Package Manager
[05:12] <koko1710> that's all? so simple?
[05:12] <emilsedgh> haha
[05:12] <blueyed> emilsedgh: I know where to configure them, but the problem is: alt-f2 and e.g. win-t (for new konsole) do not work anymore.
[05:12] <koko1710> okay, i will try it out
[05:12] <koko1710> thanks to you guys, i really appreciate it
[05:12] <trekdanne> blueyed: not kdesktop then ?
[05:13] <emilsedgh> blueyed: this happened to me once, one of The Keyboards extra buttons were enabled, I dunno what was its name...your keyboard has some extra lights and buttons? try turning them on and off, maybe this will help
[05:14] <drkfce> I like how the windows key allows for a boatload of customizable shortcuts
[05:15] <blueyed> trekdanne: I've killed and restarted the process: alt-f2 now works, win-t (a custom global shortcut) still does not.
[05:15] <blueyed> but alt-f2 is fine for now and with a re-login it would be fixed probably anyway.
[05:16] <blueyed> emilsedgh: I have a MS Natural Ergonomic keyboard and it has some function key switcher, but that's not related to the windows key.
[05:16] <emilsedgh> blueyed: dunno, sorry
[05:19] <blueyed> It helped to re-assign the same global shortcut now to "Konsole" and apply the settings in "keyboard shortcut" settings.
[05:19] <blueyed> Now win-k for konqueror also works again.
[05:27] <Kimppa> hello. Can someone please recommend an audio recorder for kubuntu?
[05:27] <arun> Kimppa: audacity
[05:27] <arun> !audacity
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <arun> !info audacity
[05:28] <blueyed> mcantor: maybe you're missing some codecs (for your .avi files)..
[05:28] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2032 kB, installed size 6016 kB
[05:28] <arun> Kimppa: ^
[05:28] <Kimppa> arun: thanks, installed it
[05:33] <DaSkreech> there was a simpler option
[05:34] <DaSkreech> darned if I can recall the name now though :)
[05:37] <Kimppa> ok, the second question is why won't audacity record anything although skype will?
[05:39] <Ahmuck> !grub
[05:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:39] <emilsedgh> !krecord
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krecord - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <ksivaji> !info audacity
[05:42] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2032 kB, installed size 6016 kB
[05:42] <ganguiano> Hi all
[05:43] <ganguiano> Anyone knows how can I rename a shortcut in the desktop of KDE
[05:43] <ganguiano> in Kubuntu
[05:48] <vsudilov> anyone know how to remap pressing the middle mouse button to running an application?
[05:49] <DrHalan> hey how can i set my computer to automatically connect to my wireless network?
[05:50] <nosrednaekim> DrHalan: you put the ESSID in the /etc/netowork/interfaces file under your device
[05:50] <nosrednaekim> *network
[05:51] <emilsedgh> !info krecord
[05:51] <ubotu> krecord: KDE sound recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16-3 (feisty), package size 66 kB, installed size 308 kB
[05:51] <trekdanne> hi people i'm back
[05:55] <trekdanne> so what's up everyone?
[05:57] <m1sha> anyone home?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> no
[05:58] <m1sha> lol
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> no, so go away! there are 346 people here and we are all sleeping :)
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> all 345 people wake up and shout for m1sha to some back
[06:00] <m1sha> :D so anyone know about installing dvd drives?
[06:01] <nosrednaekim> hardware-wise or drivers?
[06:02] <m1sha> drivers, I have it plugged in and all
[06:03] <m1sha> but kInfoCentre reports it as being a cd drive
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> m1sha: does it play dvds?
[06:08] <lucas_> hi, still no support for multiple audio device in kubuntu ?
[06:09] <m1sha> nosrednaekim: nope, it just does nothing and doesn't mount it. It had a fit when I put in a blank dvd
[06:09] <m1sha> nosrednaekim: oh god do I feel stupid, I puy the wrong drive in!
[06:09] <nosrednaekim> oh rely?
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> haha
[06:10] <m1sha> ya rly
[06:10] <m1sha> thanks anyway!
[06:12] <blueyed> Regarding the global shortcuts: may those have been "overwritten" (internally) due to a package update? (I'm on Gutsy)
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> blueyed: if youa re on gutsy... anything can happen ;)
[06:13] <blueyed> sure :) But the same may happen to people upgrading to Gutsy then :D
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> see if there is a bug report
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> if there isn't.... go to #kubuntu-devel
[06:20] <dougl> I just installed kubuntu 7.0.4 on my hd hooked up as slave on ide1 but... will boot when only slave and master (dvd as primary on ide1 bus) but when I hook up master and slave on ide0 bus machine hangs on boot... any suggestions?
[06:21] <nosrednaekim> I don't even know how all that IDE stuff works...
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> the HD might be named differently......
[06:30] <soulrider> !software
[06:30] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[06:34] <ronin_> Hmmm... does anyone know if album art images can be embedded in FLAC files?
[06:35] <martijn81> no idea
[06:35] <nosrednaekim> I doubt it...
[06:36] <SlimG2> ronin_: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t32703.html
[06:39] <ronin_> Thanks Slim,  Nos.
[06:40] <ronin_> Bah. Well, I'm sure Amarok is just fine reading them from folder then.
[06:41] <ronin_> Now for the hard question.  Is there an easy way to encode Apple Lossless from FLAC? iPhone won't play well with FLAC yet >>;
[06:41] <ronin_> Or for that matter, a wave > Apple Lossless
[06:42] <ronin_> Googling has few results, and nothing I've seen for linux. Though I'd take a WinXp way to do it too at this point.
[06:43] <arun> do what
[06:43] <stdin> ronin_: doesn't apple use aac?
[06:44] <stdin> giuseppe_: ??
[06:44] <ronin_> stdin: They do. Just I'd like to maintain my lossless FLAC quality, as opposed to lossy AAC
[06:44] <ronin_> I believe it goes by ALE for the apple lossles encoder
[06:45] <stdin> ronin_: do you know what the codec apple uses it called?
[06:45] <Assid> yo stdin
[06:45] <stdin> hey Assid
[06:46] <Assid> stdin: my stupid compiz died again :(
[06:46] <stdin> I was waiting for you to say that... :p
[06:46] <ronin_> Not sure. I always hear it referred to as ALE or ALAC
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> I thought it was AAC?
[06:48] <stdin> ronin_: looks like there's only an decoder, not an encoder (that I can find)
[06:48] <ronin_> stdin: I'll install it anyway. Amarok should use it, right?  At least I'll be able to play them
[06:49] <Assid> haha..
[06:49] <Assid> stdin: i dont know what to do man..  totally confuse
[06:49] <Assid> d
[06:50] <marok> ciaoooooo
[06:50] <stdin> !info alac-decoder
[06:50] <ubotu> alac-decoder: Apple Lossless audio codec decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 60 kB
[06:50] <stdin> Assid: I'm no graphics guru, they all hangout in -effects
[06:51] <ronin_> Thanks again Stdin. Are you an op here by the way? I'm used to the mirc method of designatinng ops with red text. Is it the same in Konversation?
[06:52] <stdin> ronin_: no, the red text is because I said your nick name
[06:52] <stdin> no red text <
[06:52] <ronin_> Nifty. Thanks.
[06:52] <stdin> :)
[06:53] <SlimG2> Is it possible to write a script for Konqueror, so everytime I visit ex. verycoolurl.com the banner would disappear?
[06:53] <pag> SlimG2, you mean like adblock?
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> SlimG2: konqueror has that built in... lemme check where it is..
[06:54] <pag> right click the image -> block this image?
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> yep, that should do it!
[06:57] <emilsedgh> and such scripts will be available in KDE4, Konqueror will support user scripts
[07:01] <SlimG2> pag: well, It would work the same way, but allow me to change how a specific site is beein rendered in konqueror thru a script
[07:04] <vsudilov> anyone ever have trouble with KHotkeys or Kgestures?
[07:06] <nosrednaekim> vsudilov: always worked for me
[07:07] <SlimG2> ex. When I visit ex. forum.org, a script would be triggered that run "sed" on the sourcode and makes konqueror display it's result instead
[07:07] <vsudilov> When you define a gesture/hotkey to have a 'keyboard input', clicking on "Modify" doesn't do anything. I can manually type the key into the box, but combination of keys (eg, alt+M) do not work..
[07:13] <ronin_> iTunes is a huge pain in the ass >>;
[07:14] <stdin> that's why I don't use it
[07:15] <ronin_> Wish I had that option. AmaroK is much better.
[07:16] <ronin_> Can't wait until they come out with a decent iPhone application.
[07:16] <ronin_> Though nobody has one of those yet...on any platform, I don't think
[07:19] <gabriel_> tem algum br ai?
[07:20] <stdin> !br
[07:20] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:20] <jhutchins_lt> ronin_: So iPhone doesn't sync with Amarok - yet?
[07:21] <ronin_> jhutchins_It: Afraid not. It really doesn't sync with anything. Even on Windows, it won't play nice with anything that normally iPods work with, like Winamp or MediaMonkey
[07:21] <ronin_> Plugging it in on Kubuntu detects as a camera, andwon't even charge it over USB
[07:22] <ronin_> I think its a totally different architecture somehow.
[07:23] <darryl> Hey guys, question - I am running edgy right now, and am ready to upgrade.  Should I use the upgrade utility or do a fresh install?
[07:23] <h4xc0r> HEY guys
[07:24] <ronin_> Hiya H4xc0r
[07:24] <jhutchins_lt> ronin_: Well, yeah, that's the idea.  It'll take a while, but they're allready hacking the internals.
[07:24] <stdin> darryl: to get to feisty?
[07:24] <jhutchins_lt> darryl: Fresh install is always an option, so go ahead and try the upgrade.
[07:25] <darryl> stdin: yep :)
[07:25] <stdin> !upgrade
[07:25] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:25] <vsudilov> nosrednaekim: do you mind making a mouse gesture (call it TEST) with KGestures (hold right click, move down, release) that maps to Alt+M, and pasteing your $KDEHOME/share/config/khotkeysrc to a pastebin for me?
[07:25] <ronin_> Such I hear. There's a file browser for it now, not sure if its on windows yet but I know it does on a mac. Hope they hack it out pretty soon.
[07:25] <ronin_> Wish I could help
[07:25] <ronin_> Its a great phone, I just don't like doing things "the apple way" all the time
[07:25] <darryl> stdin: Yea i just wondered if fresh install is always better or if the upgrades work well
[07:26] <nosrednaekim> vsudilov: sorry, you cuaght me as I was just leaving..
[07:26] <darryl> stdin: this will be my first time to upgrade - so just not sure whats best, and worked well for most people
[07:27] <stdin> darryl: you only need to do a fresh install if the upgrade fails, I have a PC that's gone from dapper > edgy > feisty (and soon to gutsy)
[07:27] <vsudilov> nosrednaekim: all right, thanks anyways
[07:27] <ronin_> Thanks for your help again guys. I'll be back later.
[07:27] <darryl> stdin: Just to be sure - how can I see my exact version of Ubuntu?  I belive its breezy
[07:28] <stdin> !version
[07:28] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[07:28] <darryl> thanks :)
[07:28] <darryl> Edgy 6.10 it is
[07:32] <vsudilov> could someone help me with creating mouse gestures with KGestures? Seems button combinations associated with mouse gestures only work in Konquerer...
[07:38] <ShaneN> Hello
[07:38] <stdin> hello ShaneN
[07:38] <ShaneN> Is it possible to get SPDIF working?
[07:38] <ShaneN> Google isn't being very helpful
[07:39] <jhutchins_lt> ShaneN: It would depend on the chipset you're using.
[07:41] <ShaneN> Its an Intel board, do they usually have the same audio chipset?
[07:41] <pekuja> Intel has a bunch of different chipsets I think.
[07:41] <jhutchins_lt> ShaneN: No telling.
[07:41] <stdin> lspci may tell you
[07:42] <ShaneN> Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[07:45] <ShaneN> Then alsamixer shows SigmaTel STAC9220D/9223D A2
[07:45] <ShaneN> :confused:
[07:54] <sebsebseb> worth trying this channel as well:  How do I delete stuff from the Ubuntu/Gnome menu?
[07:56] <Dragnslcr> Probably be better off asking in #ubuntu. Mostly KDE users here
[07:57] <Dr_willis> Theres several menu-editor tools/programs you woulduse.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> or you can learn how the menu is created and alter/edit the various .desktop files yourself
[07:57] <Dr_willis> !menu
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <Dr_willis> alacarte i think is the name of one tool
[07:57] <Dr_willis> byeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:00] <emilsedgh> guys, Im loving ubotu, could someone tell me where could I find it? to run it on another channel...
[08:00] <jhutchins> !bot
[08:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:00] <stdin> emilsedgh: also talk to the people in #ubuntu-bots
[08:03] <emilsedgh> thanks stdin
[08:03] <jacques> hi there
[08:03] <Dragnslcr> Anyone have any suggestions on brands of portable music players that are Linux friendly?
[08:05] <jacques> Dragnlcr: I am using a Gateway computer and I have no problem
[08:05] <stdin> jacques: that wasn't the question
[08:06] <jacques> what is the question?
[08:06] <emilsedgh> Dragnslcr: I think Samsung players has OGG support
[08:07] <stdin> jacques: "....brands of portable music players that are Linux friendly"
[08:07] <jacques> oh
[08:08] <Lynoure> Trekstore Vibez is linuxfriendly to boot, and plays ogg and flac
[08:08] <viktor> how to install latest kernel on kubuntu feisty ?
[08:08] <stdin> viktor: what kernel do you want? and why?
[08:08] <jhutchins> Where are the md5sums of the downloadable images?
[08:08] <stdin> jhutchins: in the md5sums file on the servers
[08:09] <Lynoure> Dragnslcr: I was just about to write a review on it, but I can msg you with my opinions, if you want them
[08:09] <viktor> stdin: i have amilo L1310g laptop and the default kernel 2.6.20-15 has a problem with overheating
[08:10] <stdin> viktor: and you are sure that the newer kernel fixes that?
[08:10] <viktor> stdin: this bug is fixed in 2.6.22
[08:10] <viktor> stdin: yes
[08:10] <nosrednaekim> viktor: there are tutorials for upgrading to the gutsy kernel
[08:11] <viktor> stdin: i tested gutsy and it works fine
[08:11] <stdin> viktor: but you don't want to use gutsy yet i guess?
[08:11] <cliente> hi!
[08:12] <stdin> viktor: ok, try <http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-upgrade-kernel2622-9-generic-in-feisty-fawn.html>
[08:12] <viktor> stdin: yes so i decidet to use feisty but with new kernel
[08:12] <stdin> try that link out
[08:12] <viktor> stdin: tnx man
[08:12] <stdin> :)
[08:13] <sayers> hi
[08:14] <sayers> what in the world does hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 mean when I try to mount my other HDD?
[08:16] <stdin> sayers: how are you trying to mount it?
[08:16] <sayers> stdin: just through the graphical mount tool in KDE tribe 4. It worked on Ubuntu so I know the HDD works :) , maybe these 80+ updates will fix the problem
[08:18] <Lynoure> Dragnslcr: I guess that is a "no thanks" but let me know if you change your mind :)
[08:20] <Dragnslcr> Lynoure- heh, sorry, was grabbing some food
[08:20] <bluev> Hey people
[08:20] <bluev> I was wondering
[08:20] <nosrednaekim> sayers: it means that you can't automaount as you(the normal user) I think
[08:21] <bluev> Anyone techy here?
[08:21] <nosrednaekim> everyone!
[08:21] <bluev> Lol, i was wondering, is theere a way to emulate the netbios ipx in red alert 2
[08:21] <bluev> cause i wana switch to linux but play games also (linux faster os)
[08:21] <nosrednaekim> bluev: you tried out Wine?
[08:22] <bluev> OFc
[08:22] <bluev> It works in wine
[08:22] <bluev> But netbios ipx is a protocol that windows has
[08:22] <bluev> I need to know if i can emulate it to play online
[08:22] <bluev> RA2 is very old
[08:22] <bluev> Also
[08:22] <bluev> Could someone show me some of the kubuntu interfaces
[08:22] <stdin> bluev: ipx is in linux too, the module "ipx" loads it
[08:22] <bluev> i wana see what some of the modded interfaces look like
[08:23] <stdin> ifconfig shows the interfaces
[08:23] <jacques> hi there
[08:23] <bluev> ifconfig
[08:23] <bluev> ?
[08:23] <bluev> o
[08:23] <bluev> no
[08:23] <bluev> i mean desktop mods
[08:23] <jacques> I am going to buy a computer to install ubuntu for gis purpose
[08:23] <bluev> So you have the default KDE install, but some people mod
[08:23] <bluev> the way it looks
[08:23] <bluev> by default isnt amazing, anyone got any pics of there or a plae where i could find pics
[08:24] <runlevelten> Nobody uses the default KDE.
[08:24] <jacques> I am hesitating between an apple computer or intel
[08:24] <elite101> Well i just read a whole bunch on making linux clusters and i think im ready to start the learning exp. lol i just need some old P3's that are 500Mhz perferably Dell optiplex laydown PC's
[08:24] <runlevelten> You're not supposed to.
[08:24] <stdin> bluev: www.kde-look.org
[08:24] <jacques> can someone advise me?
[08:24] <elite101> i use default KDE look?
[08:24] <bluev> Ahh ok
[08:24] <sayers> hm
[08:24] <runlevelten> jacques: first piece of advice, an apple is an intel machine.
[08:24] <sayers> okay my hdd still doesnt mount
[08:24] <bluev> Know
[08:24] <bluev> heres another thing
[08:25] <runlevelten> unless you buy some second hand old one from the ppc or motorola days
[08:25] <bluev> Anyone played BF2 or Muonline on wine or cedega?
[08:25] <jacques> no I am thinking of an ibook
[08:25] <elite101> BF2?
[08:25] <elite101> battle front 2?
[08:25] <bluev> Battlefield 2
[08:25] <elite101> thought so
[08:25] <sayers> yes it works
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> jacqeues: buy a non-Mac, it will be chaper for the same hardware
[08:25] <elite101> i was just going to say that
[08:25] <runlevelten> apparently it can be done. Don't play it myself though, so second hand info
[08:25] <jacques> because I found that when I want to process my images the computer become very slow
[08:26] <bluev> Right, so battlefield 2 runs?
[08:26] <jacques> and I have been told that apple computers are graphic good
[08:26] <runlevelten> Reputedly, yeah.
[08:26] <bluev> Also, Muonline, has anyone even tried that?
[08:26] <bluev> (rare game)
[08:27] <runlevelten> bluev: never heard of it I'm afraid. You can look on appdb.winehq.org when you want to find info on whether an app runs on wine.
[08:27] <stdin> jacques: you'll probably find life easier on an intel (based) PC than an Mac
[08:28] <Assid> yoza runlevelten, stdin
[08:28] <runlevelten> Well, not every app ever is covered, but most you might want if someone's tried it, heh
[08:28] <Assid> stdin: why would you think that.. mac is pretty sweet
[08:28] <bluev> Right, does anyone have any "heavy" games they run in linux?
[08:28] <runlevelten> define heavy.
[08:28] <bluev> Demanding
[08:28] <stdin> Assid: ther's better hardware support for PCs than Macs for one
[08:29] <runlevelten> HL2's fine, that's about the heaviest game I have, apart from Oblivion, which would run except I'm a sucker and have an ATi card.
[08:29] <Assid> bluev: you could try unreal tournament.. or quake
[08:29] <bluev> Hmm
[08:29] <Assid> oblivion on linux?
[08:29] <bluev> That was my next question
[08:29] <bluev> any h
[08:29] <bluev> any good free native games fro linux?
[08:29] <bluev> Ive tried AA but didnt like that
[08:29] <bluev> And enemy terriroty
[08:29] <runlevelten> Unless, you're a sucker who gave ATi your money :( like me
[08:29] <stdin> !games | bluev
[08:29] <ubotu> bluev: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[08:29] <runlevelten> True Combat Elite
[08:30] <bluev> Last question
[08:30] <runlevelten> Penumbra, UT2kx, Enemy Territory, All the quakes to date, et cetera
[08:30] <bluev> ahh
[08:30] <bluev> quake arena is free?
[08:30] <Assid> runlevelten: know anything like regular civilization?
[08:30] <runlevelten> There are a lot of native games if you know where to look.
[08:30] <Assid> not freeciv .. the gfx needs an upgrade
[08:31] <nosrednaekim> bluev: try saurbraten... heavy enough that my graphics car can't handle it ;)
[08:31] <runlevelten> Haven't played it for years. Freeciv ng is great but is a network game and a network game only, tbh.
[08:31] <runlevelten> sauerbraten sucks a bit though
[08:31] <runlevelten> sauerbraten is a bit like nexuiz.
[08:31] <Assid> nexuiz?
[08:32] <runlevelten> You want TC:E, ET, Q3 and 4, tremulous and warsow (latest build) for a start.
[08:32] <elite101> TC:e?
[08:32] <elite101> whats that?
[08:32] <bluev> Oki doki
[08:32] <bluev> Quake is free?
[08:38] <runlevelten> No, quake is not free
[08:38] <elite101> a good game is F.E.A.R
[08:38] <runlevelten> The engine is Free, the game isn't free.
[08:38] <Assid> hrmm
[08:38] <bluev> FEAR runs ok linux loool?
[08:38] <elite101> no
[08:38] <elite101> im not sure
[08:38] <elite101> lol
[08:38] <bluev> Wasgona say
[08:38] <elite101> i kinda doubt it
[08:38] <bluev> thats some heavy cpu usage
[08:38] <Assid> i need a shower..
[08:38] <elite101> but its a good goood game
[08:38] <runlevelten> Never tried it. You need games programmers play, ahaha.
[08:38] <elite101> yeah
[08:38] <elite101> very very heavy game
[08:38] <runlevelten> So every quake and half-life game is assured of coverage.
[08:38] <runlevelten> heh
[08:38] <elite101> i have seen ppl on youtube get HALO1 trial version on linux but do u think H2 will work on linux using wine?
[08:38] <Lynoure> bluev: A Tale in the Desert exists for Linux, it's a quite unusual multiplayer online game
[08:38] <bluev> yeah
[08:38] <bluev> You guys pwn
[08:38] <runlevelten> Halo...
[08:38] <elite101> lol
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> elite101: it will indeed..
[08:38] <bluev> Also, heres some specs of what i have
[08:38] <elite101> perfect
[08:38] <runlevelten> Prefer it on a console, tbh.
[08:38] <runlevelten> If at all.
[08:38] <elite101> now i have to go from AGP8mb to AGP 320Mb 8800
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> elite101: oh wait... I was thinking half-life
[08:38] <elite101> ohh lol
[08:38] <elite101> :(
[08:38] <bluev> amd 4600+ dual core, 1gig ram, 7600gt, 120gb 7200rpm, that enough to run games in wine?
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> bluev: oh yeah...
[08:38] <elite101> only 1gb ram xD
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> I would say so
[08:38] <elite101> u should get 2
[08:38] <bluev> Yeah i will
[08:38] <elite101> :)
[08:38] <bluev> But its expensive
[08:38] <elite101> there pretty cheap
[08:38] <bluev> The other stuff has cost me alot anyways
[08:38] <elite101> only a 1gb stickl is like what 70$?
[08:38] <bluev> Now ill upgrade that next
[08:38] <runlevelten> Yep. And you have an nvidia, so you're invited to the party.
[08:38] <elite101> lol
[08:38] <bluev> No its not
[08:38] <bluev> Lol
[08:38] <elite101> i have only 292Mb ram :(
[08:38] <bluev> 1gig 140 dollars
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> 1GB is like 40
[08:38] <elite101> lol im from canada
[08:38] <elite101> sp
[08:38] <bluev> Lol
[08:38] <elite101> so*
[08:38] <elite101> yeah
[08:38] <bluev> AMD, whats wrong with them
[08:38] <elite101> HeAt
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> what AMD announcement?
[08:38] <elite101> :P
[08:38] <runlevelten> Nothing, except the poor gits own ATi :(
[08:38] <stdin> !offtopic
[08:38] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:38] <sayers> AMD is good. just run the x_86 version
[08:38] <Assid> i got like 1.5GB ram
[08:38] <elite101> when u get AMD u will get M-A-D
[08:38] <Assid> and 1/2 of it is going waste
[08:38] <bluev> ahh hthis was my next
[08:38] <Assid> wish the video card can use some of my normal ram
[08:38] <elite101> yeah
[08:38] <elite101> that would be sick
[08:38] <runlevelten> Nothing wrong with AMD at all.
[08:38] <elite101> i wish
[08:38] <stdin> for non support related discussion use #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:38] <bluev> for amd 4600+ dual core i know i need 64 but is 86 MUCH worse? compatibility is beter with 86?
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> AMD and HEAT? umm no.... thats one problem they DO NOT have
[08:38] <elite101> i have intel pentium 3 xeon x86
[08:38] <elite101> lol im olddd...
[08:38] <stdin> bluev: you don't have to run a 64bit OS on an 64bit cpu
[08:38] <elite101> in hardware*
[08:38] <runlevelten> bluev: You'll experience better compatibility with 32 bit stuff, yes.
[08:38] <bluev> Yeah i know
[08:38] <bluev> But is there a MAJOR advantage of 64?
[08:38] <stdin> no
[08:38] <elite101> is there such thing as 64bit graphics?
[08:38] <elite101> or 128
[08:38] <bluev> Why make it then?
[08:38] <runlevelten> For desktop use... not massively.
[08:39] <stdin> not unless you have 4+GB RAM
[08:39] <runlevelten> bluev: do you transcode a lot of video or other similar tasks?
[08:39] <runlevelten> then it's an advantage
[08:39] <bluev> Urm, i will be doing a little bit of video encoding
[08:39] <bluev> But alot of gaming?
[08:39] <stdin> math intensive tasks get about a 30% boost in 64bit
[08:40] <bluev> Hmm
[08:40] <bluev> right heres my sit
[08:40] <bluev> I want a well customised desktop, lite and fast, for gaming and torrenting, and some converting?
[08:40] <bluev> What spec?
[08:40] <bluev> 64 or 86
[08:40] <nosrednaekim> x_86
[08:40] <runlevelten> what for the actual hardware? 64.
[08:40] <elite101> x1
[08:40] <elite101> xD
[08:40] <stdin> gaming? x86 for sure
[08:40] <bluev> Why's that?
[08:41] <elite101> the number is bigger
[08:41] <elite101> :)
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> for the OS of course, all modern hardware is 64but.
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> *64-bit
[08:41] <stdin> bluev: if you want to use wine, you'll make your life much easier with 32bit
[08:41] <bluev> Ok
[08:41] <kirel> hello everyone
[08:41] <bluev> Then its settled
[08:41] <bluev> Ill be back soon ~:
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> hello
[08:41] <bluev> just gona install it :d
[08:41] <runlevelten> enjoy, nosrednaekim
[08:41] <kirel> anyone else here running ubuntu from ibook?
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> runlevelten: what?
[08:42] <elite101> is kubuntu 64-86 compatiable so it can run on both no problem?
[08:42] <stdin> wine is 32bit only, you have to mess around with it to even get it to run
[08:42] <runlevelten> oops.
[08:42] <runlevelten> enjoy bluev
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> lol
[08:42] <runlevelten> heh
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> bluev: have fun
[08:42] <bluev> lol
[08:43] <elite101> lol dont be a wiNer
[08:43] <elite101> be a winner
[08:43] <chris_> how do I restart alsa? /etc/init.d/alsasound doesn't exist..
[08:44] <kirel> i just use crossover instead of wine, alot better at handling windows fonts for alot of windows apps
[08:44] <elite101> i didnt know this but "top" is a command to see system prosses running in Konsole and what CPU usage they use, u can use this command in MAC too
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> chris_: alsa-utils
[08:44] <stdin> elite101: top is an old unix command, it's been around for ever :p
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> kirel: why, do you have a problem?
[08:45] <elite101> lol
[08:45] <runlevelten> Crossover's a great augmentation of wine. Muchly recommended for end users, with the caveat that it provides them with a tool, not seamless support.
[08:45] <elite101> well i found out about it like 2days ago
[08:45] <chris_> nosrednaekim: thanks
[08:45] <stdin> elite101: there's a GUI too you know
[08:45] <elite101> i know
[08:45] <stdin> good :)
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> chris_: not sure if that REALLY restarts alsa, but its the only one in init.d
[08:45] <elite101> Konsole looks better
[08:46] <elite101> looks more intelligent
[08:46] <kirel> i have a problem with the ppc version of ubuntu, i want to use gnome, but is inpossible on an ibook as all the applets crash straight from the word go so i am in kde instead, was just wondering if there was a work around for this
[08:46] <elite101> i thought Gnome sucked?
[08:46] <kirel> i prefer gnome to kde
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> kirel: go to #ubuntu for problems with gnome
[08:46] <elite101> i like KDE better
[08:47] <elite101> but i have used Gnome
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> ok, stop it..
[08:47] <kirel> kde is good at looking sexy
[08:47] <runlevelten> kirel: If your purposes is working around all the bugs in Gnome, then this probably isn't the best place to get support for that.
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> it doesn't mater
[08:47] <elite101> whats up with him?
[08:47] <kirel> yea i know just saw which room it whacked me into, opps, lol#
[08:48] <runlevelten> s/purpose/purposes/
[08:48] <runlevelten> other way around :|
[08:48] <elite101> omg why is there so many ppl connecting disconnecting in here? it wasnt like this b4 man its annyoing
[08:48] <elite101> STOP CONNECTING....
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> elite101: I turn off log in and log off messages
[08:48] <elite101> how?
[08:48] <elite101> i need them badly off
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> elite101: you using konversation?
[08:49] <kirel> because most of them are most prob new to ubuntu and wondering what konversation is , and it just logs you in straight away
[08:49] <elite101> its insane watching this
[08:49] <elite101> yeah
[08:49] <elite101> konverstaion*
[08:49] <stdin> elite101: settings > chat window, Hide Join/Part
[08:50] <nosrednaekim> configure konversation-> behavior->chat window-> hide join-part
[08:50] <elite101> i dont have that?
[08:50] <kirel> click settings, then notifcation and it will bring up new window, disable nick joing and nick leaving
[08:51] <elite101> duhh im dumb
[08:51] <elite101> yeah i got it
[08:56] <elite101> hey have any of u ever used Xlink kai?
[08:57] <elite101> or XBC/xbox connect?
[08:59] <elite101> well the program lets me use gamming consoles online but there is a linux version (tarball) and i open it with ark but there  is only 2 files in the tar. and its a Kaid file and a Kaid.conf how do i use these? they need root permisions
[09:00] <stdin> elite101: open konsole, cd to the directory and do ./Kaid ?
[09:00] <elite101> oka
[09:00] <elite101> but
[09:00] <elite101> ./kaid?
[09:00] <elite101> its on my desktop
[09:00] <elite101> there extracted
[09:01] <elite101> but im new to instaliing these things
[09:01] <bjwebb> why would my kubuntu install not have the default kubuntu theme?
[09:01] <stdin> elite101: cd Desktop
[09:01] <stdin> elite101: ./kaid
[09:01] <elite101> whats that?
[09:01] <stdin> elite101: cd = change directory
[09:01] <elite101> no such file
[09:01] <elite101> ic
[09:01] <stdin> bjwebb: how did you install kubuntu?
[09:01] <bjwebb> normal live cd
[09:02] <bjwebb> it was ages ago
[09:02] <bjwebb> well as few months
[09:02] <stdin> bjwebb: how do you know it's not the default theme then?
[09:02] <soulrider> !ati
[09:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:02] <elite101> well it still says unknown file directory
[09:03] <stdin> elite101: case sensitive
[09:03] <elite101> its in a folder
[09:03] <stdin> cd to that folder then
[09:03] <bjwebb> stdin: because i know it looks like
[09:03] <elite101> so do i have to type tjat out too like /home/elite101/desktop/*folder*/kaid ?
[09:03] <bjwebb> could it be because the install failed near the end?
[09:04] <stdin> elite101: no, it starts out in /home/elite101 , so cd Desktop/foldername
[09:04] <stdin> elite101: again CAse SEnSitIve
[09:04] <elite101> cd?
[09:04] <stdin> bjwebb: what do you mean it failed?
[09:04] <elite101> change what directory?
[09:05] <stdin> elite101: what is the directory called on the desktop?
[09:05] <elite101> i have it like this
[09:05] <elite101> opps
[09:05] <elite101> 1/home/elite101/desktop/folder/kaid
[09:05] <elite101> without the 1
[09:05] <elite101> the folder is named...folder
[09:05] <elite101> lol
[09:05] <elite101> wait
[09:05] <elite101> do u need it in the .tar
[09:05] <stdin> elite101: Desktop has an upper-case D
[09:05] <elite101> or u have to have it extracted?
[09:05] <elite101> ic
[09:06] <elite101> lol
[09:06] <stdin> elite101: just do "cd Desktop/folder"
[09:06] <elite101> so like this home/elite101/cd Desktop/folder/kaid
[09:06] <elite101> nvm
[09:06] <elite101> i got it
[09:06] <elite101> it says
[09:07] <elite101> KAID: You're not root, sorry...
[09:07] <aguitel> hello
[09:07] <elite101> so i need to run on root
[09:07] <elite101> but how
[09:07] <stdin> elite101: ok do "sudo ./kaid"
[09:07] <elite101> okay
[09:07] <aguitel> how i see video divx in kubuntu?
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> !divx
[09:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:07] <saylar> hey guys
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: there is a package for it... justa  sec
[09:07] <aguitel> ok
[09:08] <elite101> KAID: Config file '/etc/kaid.conf' not found...
[09:08] <elite101> but its there?
[09:08] <stdin> elite101: no /etc/kaid.conf isn't
[09:08] <stdin> elite101: move kaid.conf to /etc
[09:08] <saylar> is there a way to start konsole in a way that it automatically starts with a command. i want to define a hotkey that starts konsole and then does a ssh servername.com
[09:08] <elite101> ohh ic'
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: avifile-divx-plugin
[09:09] <saylar> couldn't find anything in the manpage
[09:09] <aguitel> it work with kafeine?
[09:09] <AloBlumenau> how open file as root with konqueror?
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: yeah
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> AloBlumenau: start konqueror as root "kdesu konqueror"
[09:10] <aguitel> it say invalid operation
[09:10] <AloBlumenau> how?
[09:10] <AloBlumenau> I clicked on icon
[09:10] <stdin> saylar: konsole -e command
[09:10] <saylar> ah, that simple *g*
[09:10] <saylar> thx stdin
[09:10] <stdin> :)
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: thats a package... get it useing "sudo apt-get install avifile-divx-plugin"
[09:11] <saylar> works, great
[09:11] <aguitel> ok
[09:11] <Assid> kafeine plays it fine
[09:11] <Assid> i gotta learn how to encode divx on linux
[09:12] <stdin> ffmpeg and mencoder can do that
[09:13] <aguitel> nosrednaekim ,what about the codecs ? i
[09:13] <nosrednaekim> what do you mean?
[09:13] <nosrednaekim> did you install that command?
[09:13] <aguitel> it not playng
[09:14] <aguitel> yes it install
[09:14] <kirel> says the divx package is not there
[09:14] <aguitel> to play xvid what i need?
[09:14] <elite101> im getting an error while trying to write to /etc/kaid.conf it wont let me it says access denied
[09:15] <stdin> elite101: you know you need sudo...
[09:15] <elite101> it wont let me rite content to the harddrive?
[09:15] <elite101> i cant change the hdd to view and rtie content only view?
[09:15] <elite101> how do i use sudo to do that?
[09:16] <aguitel> nosrednaekim, what i need to play xvid?
[09:16] <stdin> elite101: sudo cp kaid.conf /etc
[09:16] <elite101> in konsole?
[09:16] <nosrednaekim> xvid? I thought you said divx
[09:16] <stdin> elite101: yep
[09:16] <Assid> stdin: any clue if mencoder uses multi threading?
[09:16] <aguitel> i was wrong
[09:16] <elite101> lol xvid backwards is divx
[09:16] <elite101> why is that?
[09:17] <elite101> xvid-divx
[09:17] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: ah, well, just a sec
[09:17] <aguitel> ok
[09:17] <elite101> cp: cannot stat `kaid.conf': No such file or directory
[09:17] <elite101> ?
[09:17] <stdin> Assid: I'm not sure
[09:17] <elite101> stdin, it says cp: cannot stat `kaid.conf': No such file or directory
[09:18] <stdin> elite101: from the ~/Desktop/folder/ directory
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: get  avifile-xvid-plugin
[09:18] <ijuz> mplayer uses ffmpeg and this is partly multithreaded
[09:18] <elite101> sorry im very dumb i didnt uderstand so i have to rite out where it is?
[09:18] <Assid> stdin: besides mencoder.. do i need anything else?
[09:18] <stdin> Assid: don't think so, mencoder is the daddy of encoders :p
[09:19] <Assid> no addl codecs?
[09:19] <stdin> elite101: you can do "sudo cp ~/Desktop/folder/kaid.conf /etc" too
[09:20] <elite101> lol k
[09:20] <elite101> i did that
[09:20] <elite101> and nothing happend
[09:20] <cloakable> It worked, then
[09:20] <elite101> k
[09:20] <elite101> thoughtso
[09:20] <elite101> i thought maybe something was supposed to come up
[09:21] <stdin> Assid: 'mencoder -oac help' and 'mencoder -ovc help" list all the available codecs
[09:21] <aguitel> nosrednaekim ,i install fine but i cannot play some movieDVDRip.Xvid
[09:21] <Assid> ive always wondered if encoding on linux would be any quicker than the windows counterpart.. specially taking into consideration divx is supported officially by divx labs on that
[09:21] <stdin> elite101: no putput normally means no error
[09:21] <aguitel> nosrednaekim,is something else that i need?
[09:21] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: I don't know...
[09:21] <elite101> lol thanx for ur help im going to rite a tutorial for this :)
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: I have no clue.... that file worked for me
[09:22] <elite101> i wish it was a GUI
[09:22] <darkruler> ive typed in sudo apt-get install j2rel.4 and it asks me for a password, but wont let me type in mine
[09:22] <Assid> stdin: no divx there :(
[09:22] <stdin> darkruler: won't let you how?
[09:22] <elite101> if i copy the kaid.conf to /etc should i delete it in the folder on my desktop or no?
[09:23] <stdin> elite101: up to you
[09:23] <darkruler> it wont let me input
[09:23] <elite101> k
[09:23] <elite101> lol i wont
[09:23] <elite101> since i have it working now
[09:23] <elite101> i dont wanna screw something up
[09:23] <elite101> :)
[09:23] <stdin> darkruler: it won't echo it back, but it is reading it
[09:23] <darkruler> ok
[09:24] <darkruler> yah, that worked
[09:25] <stdin> Assid: divx is mpeg4
[09:25] <stdin> Assid: you use "-ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4"
[09:27] <darkruler> How do I run a .jnlp file?
[09:28] <Assid> hrmm k
[09:28] <parsnip> darkruler: does it open with the java webstart?
[09:28] <Assid> will play with it when i gotta encode something
[09:28] <stdin> darkruler: you need to have java installed and do "javaws file.jnlp"
[09:28] <parsnip> darkruler: In internet in your k menu
[09:28] <ubuntu_> hgdskh
[09:29] <stdin> ubuntu_: ?
[09:29] <bluevapour> Hey people
[09:29] <bluevapour> Its bluev
[09:29] <ubuntu_> ubuntu
[09:29] <bluevapour> Ive installed kubuntu
[09:29] <bluevapour> Now i have a problem
[09:29] <elite101> what does this mean? KAID: Failed to create UI socket...
[09:29] <parsnip> stdin: hi man, I got my konqueror sorted, changed the default run to knoqueror and not copy/paste the konqueror shortcut in nthe k menu
[09:29] <elite101> what is a UI socket?
[09:29] <bluevapour> When i update all packages etc with adept, my cd drive doesnt work?
[09:29] <bluevapour> That common?
[09:30] <darkruler> its says javaws is not installed.
[09:30] <bluevapour> ?
[09:30] <darkruler> i try to install it, but it says package not found
[09:30] <parsnip> darkruler: sudo apt-get install javaws
[09:30] <stdin> !java | darkruler
[09:30] <ubotu> darkruler: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:31] <parsnip> darkruler: you could get easyubuntu too
[09:31] <bluevapour> People, does anyone else have a problem with cd drive after updating all in adept?
[09:31] <stdin> parsnip, darkruler:  NO DON'T
[09:31] <parsnip> bluevapour: what happens when you put a cd in your drive?
[09:31] <elite101> what is a UI socket?
[09:32] <bluevapour> Nothing
[09:32] <bluevapour> I cant open my drive
[09:32] <bluevapour> Even with right click ejecting
[09:32] <stdin> elite101: if it's not working then report that to the people who make it
[09:32] <elite101> k
[09:32] <elite101> cuz they did a louwsey job
[09:32] <bluevapour> Is this problem common Parsnip?
[09:34] <parsnip> bluevapour: not seen it myself
[09:34] <parsnip> bluevapour: you tried another cd drive?
[09:34] <bluevapour> No i think it may be the drie
[09:34] <bluevapour> btw how do i do a full update
[09:34] <parsnip> bluevapour: i'm googling
[09:34] <bluevapour> of all my packages that can be upgradede
[09:35] <stdin> bluevapour: either use Adept, or "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:36] <bluevapour> ty stdin
[09:51] <saylar> i guess you already know, but i'd like to point out how much *ubuntu rocks
[09:52] <chovy_> how do i enable screensavers?
[09:52] <chovy_> !sudo screensaver | chovy
[09:53] <bluevapour> Hey wats the command line to eject CD?
[09:53] <chovy_> eject
[09:53] <ijuz> eject ?
[09:53] <bluevapour> literally?
[09:53] <chovy_> reject
[09:53] <chovy_> heh
[09:53] <chovy_> j/k
[09:53] <bluevapour> what is it then
[09:54] <Wiggles> how can i set beryl-manager to load as my default window manager instead of kwin?
[09:54] <ijuz> it's eject, why don't you just try it?
[09:54] <bluevapour> Doesnt do anything
[09:54] <stdin> !autostart | Wiggles
[09:54] <bluevapour> Just freezes
[09:54] <ubotu> Wiggles: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:54] <chovy_> bluevapour: gi;ve it a second
[09:54] <aguitel> how i know my video card ?
[09:54] <bluevapour> When i update using adept, cd drive stops working
[09:54] <chovy_> has anyone got a screensaver to work on Kubuntu?
[09:55] <Wiggles> if i do that, isn't kwin loading up and then being killed by beryl?
[09:55] <bluevapour> 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15
[09:55] <bluevapour> shouldnt take this long
[09:55] <bluevapour> nothing happening
[09:55] <stdin> aguitel: "lspci | gerp VGA"
[09:55] <Wiggles> i want to prevent kwin from starting
[09:55] <stdin> Wiggles: you can't really, kwin is started by kded
[09:55] <stdin> Wiggles: or kdeinit (not sure)
[09:56] <Wiggles> ok
[09:56] <chovy_> umount /dev/cdrom
[09:57] <aguitel> stdin,it say : gerp :order not found
[09:57] <bluevapour> also, terminal etc, loads instant, after update they take 4secs?
[09:57] <bluevapour> i have 4600+ dual core cpu
[09:57] <bluevapour> 7200rpm hdd :S
[09:57] <bluevapour> 9 seconds that time
[09:57] <bluevapour> WHy is it now going so slow?
[09:58] <stdin> aguitel: sorry "lspci | grep VGA"
[09:58] <jpwhiting> hi all, anyone here using gutsy with an nvidia card?
[09:58] <stdin> jpwhiting: #ubuntu+1
[09:58] <aguitel> it say :0:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[09:58] <bluevapour> Anyone?
[09:59] <stdin> aguitel: then you have an Intel 865G
[09:59] <aguitel> i need another driver ?
[09:59] <bluevapour> Why after updateing, do terminals take 9seconds to start!
[09:59] <stdin> aguitel: no
[09:59] <vsudilov> anyone know how to add a 'mount/unmount' option to ISO's when right clicking the files in KDE?
[09:59] <aguitel> stdn,this is good ?
[09:59] <bluevapour> Someone answer my question!
[10:00] <bluevapour> Why after updateing, do terminals take 9seconds to start!
[10:00] <stdin> aguitel: yes
[10:00] <jpwhiting> stdin: thx
[10:00] <stdin> vsudilov: I made something just for that :p
[10:00] <stdin> vsudilov: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955
[10:01] <bluevapour> Why after updateing, do terminals take 9seconds to start!
[10:01] <bluevapour> Ifact why does everything take around 6seconds?
[10:02] <bluevapour> Why does everyone ignor
[10:02] <bluevapour> ?
[10:02] <vsudilov> stdin: Thanks, I'll give it a try
[10:02] <bluevapour> ?
[10:02] <bluevapour> stop being penises
[10:02] <stdin> vsudilov: try the .deb download
[10:02] <stdin> bluevapour: stop that
[10:02] <bluevapour> answer then
[10:02] <bluevapour> What is with this update
[10:02] <bluevapour> i update all
[10:02] <stdin> !patience
[10:02] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:02] <bluevapour> then windows take 6seconds to appear
[10:03] <bluevapour> Help me then
[10:03] <bluevapour> ive asked 9 times
[10:03] <bluevapour> i expect a reply from the helpers are in this as there arnt 9 other people needing help
[10:03] <stdin> bluevapour: if no one knows, then no one can answer
[10:03] <bluevapour> why be in this channel
[10:04] <bluevapour> if ur as dumb as me
[10:04] <stdin> bluevapour: READ what ubotu said
[10:04] <bluevapour> No
[10:04] <stdin> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.
[10:04] <bluevapour> Just tell
[10:04] <bluevapour> I have a fast processor
[10:04] <bluevapour> before update eveything appear instant
[10:04] <bluevapour> after update everthing appear slow
[10:04] <trekdanne> !attitude | bluevapour
[10:04] <ubotu> bluevapour: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:04] <bluevapour> Care?
[10:04] <bluevapour> Stop spamming
[10:04] <runlevelten> bluevapour. I can help you.
[10:05] <runlevelten> I will not.
[10:05] <bluevapour> You dont know is the truth
[10:05] <bluevapour> or you would've said the 9 times ive asked
[10:05] <runlevelten> !attitude | bluevapour
[10:05] <ubotu> bluevapour: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:05] <bluevapour> I dont care, if you knew you'de say yeah?
[10:05] <bluevapour> im not being rude mate
[10:05] <bluevapour> seriously
[10:06] <bluevapour> i apologise
[10:06] <bluevapour> but understand, its frustrating
[10:06] <saylar> yes, you were
[10:06] <runlevelten> You were being very rude indeed.
[10:06] <bluevapour> im sorry if yo got that idea ok?
[10:06] <saylar> it's called a learning curve
[10:06] <saylar> everyone is experincing this
[10:06] <bluevapour> Now im sorry
[10:06] <stdin> like I said, if no one knows, then no one can answer
[10:06] <bluevapour> Can anyone help me?
[10:06] <Level15> bluevapour: what do u need?
[10:07] <bluevapour> runlevelten knows he said
[10:07] <bluevapour> right mate, i installed kubuntu
[10:07] <bluevapour> amazing, speed etc unbeatable
[10:07] <trekdanne> just ask you question and idle
[10:07] <bluevapour> i update all packages, now it takes 6 seconds for any windows to load except firefox
[10:07] <Level15> bluevapour: dude...
[10:07] <bluevapour> w00ps, inluding that
[10:08] <bluevapour> Yeah
[10:08] <bluevapour> ?
[10:08] <saylar> what does ksysguard say?
[10:08] <Assid> hrmm.. any of you guys using kopete? how do you set the shortcut for ESC to close the active chat window?
[10:08] <Level15> bluevapour: have you rebooted the machine?
[10:08] <bluevapour> Yeah twice :d
[10:08] <saylar> hmm, that's indeed odd
[10:08] <Level15> weirdo...
[10:09] <bluevapour> i have amd 4600+ dual core , 7600 gt, 1gig ram, 120gig hdd
[10:09] <bluevapour> if that helps
[10:09] <saylar> your machine is idle ore are there any processes using cpu time?
[10:09] <Level15> disable all desktop effects, composite extension, tell us what happens
[10:09] <bluevapour> Ok
[10:09] <saylar> check ksysguard from kde menu or top from the konsole
[10:09] <bluevapour> Sure
[10:10] <runlevelten> Imma log in in kopete to see...
[10:10] <bluevapour> Odd
[10:11] <bluevapour> It loads straight away with the performancemanager open
[10:11] <chovy_> re: screensavers -- power savings must be enabled for it to wokr.
[10:11] <bluevapour> Really weird
[10:11] <Assid> runlevelten:  got it
[10:11] <bluevapour> Seems to be ok now :D
[10:11] <bluevapour> Thanks guys
[10:11] <Assid> had to do it from within the chat window
[10:12] <saylar> you should work on something that is called patience, bluevapour.
[10:12] <saylar> no offense ;)
[10:12] <Pinky-ponk> assid yeah, just got it, heh
[10:12] <bluevapour> Dude
[10:12] <bluevapour> I weightlift and eat 6  cans of tuna per day to help with that
[10:13] <Assid> i hated having to use the mouse everytime to close the window.. and then alt tab
[10:13] <bluevapour> look up mercury poisinig symptoms then tell me that again lol
[10:13] <AloBlumenau> hi, I installed swat from synapitc
[10:13] <saylar> well, we just see your nick. so we don't know what's going with you ;)
[10:14] <AloBlumenau> how to start it if inetd doesnt exists
[10:14] <stdin> runlevelten: vain much :p
[10:14] <saylar> well, i think you got the point
[10:14] <runlevelten> Assid: Yeah, the close tab shortcut works well for me :)
[10:14] <runlevelten> ctrl w
[10:14] <Assid> ESC
[10:14] <stdin> AloBlumenau: you have to install an inetd server
[10:14] <runlevelten> Curse Tomboy for being good, and a mono app.
[10:15] <Assid> mono app ?
[10:15] <bluevapour> Anyone ran swat 4 on wine or cedega?
[10:15] <Assid> i need to start gaming
[10:15] <runlevelten> Assid: Did you install TC:E yet?
[10:15] <[ifr0g] > How many of you run swatch ?
[10:15] <vsudilov> stdin: Nice script, but I have to run the application to mount/unmount...How do I get the right-click contextual menu working?
[10:15] <Assid> whats that
[10:16] <[ifr0g] > or any one of you ?
[10:16] <Assid> TC:E ? runlevelten ?
[10:16] <Assid> wassat ?
[10:16] <runlevelten> True Combat Elite - across-platform squad-based tactical shooter.
[10:16] <Assid> i cant play FPS
[10:16] <Assid> get the biggest headaches
[10:16] <AloBlumenau> stdin: what is the package name? there isnt inetd on synapitc
[10:16] <bluevapour> So guys for TCE
[10:17] <stdin> vsudilov: restart konqueror, it'll be there
[10:17] <bluevapour> i install ET and then that after right?
[10:17] <runlevelten> Assid: You know for lots of people who get motion sickness and headaches with FPS games, they'll find some other FPS doesn't?
[10:17] <runlevelten> bluevapour: Yes.
[10:17] <stdin> AloBlumenau: inetd-superserver or inetutils-inetd
[10:17] <Assid> really?
[10:18] <runlevelten> Assid: Yeah. It's probably not something you want to experiment with much though, on account of not wanting a headache.
[10:18] <runlevelten> heh
[10:18] <AloBlumenau> netkit-inetd?
[10:18] <Assid> thats true
[10:18] <Wiggles> i used the autostart applications add on for control center
[10:18] <Assid> its not part of the regular repositories?
[10:18] <Wiggles> but i get this error
[10:18] <Wiggles> The desktop entry file /home/devin/.kde/Autostart/Beryl.desktop has no Type=... entry.
[10:19] <bluevapour> Quick question
[10:19] <bluevapour> For kde-look.org
[10:19] <stdin> AloBlumenau: that too
[10:19] <bluevapour> I just download double click and they auto change the interface?
[10:19] <Wiggles> i just set the command to "beryl-manager"
[10:19] <Assid> hrmm trying to see how do save history for kopete
[10:19] <Level15> Assid: for what IM service?
[10:20] <Assid> Level15:  kopete.. i think i found it
[10:20] <Assid> although im not sure how to access the archives
[10:20] <Level15> Assid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker
[10:20] <Level15> Assid: sorry about that
[10:21] <Assid> only way to do it is ALT LEFT..
[10:21] <Level15> Assid: klipper thinks it is smarter than me :P
[10:21] <Assid> but what about in a different window
[10:21] <Level15> Assid: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs
[10:21] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: hmm, just a second
[10:21] <stdin> Wiggles: you can just make a link to beryl-manager "ln -s $(which beryl-manager) ~/.kde/Autostart/"
[10:21] <Assid> Level15: nothing within kopete?
[10:21] <Level15> Assid: not that i know of
[10:21] <vsudilov> stdin: Still no right-click menu. I installed via GUIinstall.sh. Perhaps I should try manual install?
[10:22] <runlevelten> bluevapour: instructions on how to install or use things will be given on kde-look.org
[10:22] <Level15> Assid: found it
[10:22] <Level15> Assid: right click on contact, view history
[10:22] <Assid> damn
[10:22] <Assid> someone kick me
[10:22] <Wiggles> stdin, i don't understand
[10:22] <stdin> vsudilov: there was a .deb too, but oh well, tell me if there is a file called ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/mountserv.desktop" ?
[10:22] <runlevelten> 's probably in $userkde/share/apps/kopete/
[10:23] <Level15> :D
[10:23] <idcoctor-1> What is the best why to remote desktop from WinDoze XP to Linux?
[10:23] <Assid> idcoctor-1: vnc
[10:23] <Level15> idcoctor-1: NX
[10:23] <runlevelten> idcoctor-1: depends what you want it for.
[10:23] <Assid> nx ?!??
[10:23] <Level15> Assid: vnc eats a LOT of bandwidth
[10:23] <stdin> Wiggles: ln -s makes what's called a "symbolic link" that command just points to beryl-manager
[10:23] <Assid> wtf is nx ?
[10:23] <runlevelten> What's NX? Get yourself to google boy, stat!
[10:23] <runlevelten> :)
[10:24] <stdin> !nx
[10:24] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:24] <vsudilov> stdin: Nope, not there -- shall I cp it there?
[10:24] <Level15> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology
[10:24] <trekdanne> Assid: non-free remote desktop
[10:24] <Level15> trekdanne: oh, it IS free
[10:24] <idcoctor-1> thanks
[10:24] <stdin> vsudilov: yep, you are the 2nd kubuntu user to say it didn't auto copy...
[10:24] <Level15> trekdanne: just there are propietary clients and servers as well
[10:25] <Level15> trekdanne: pretty much like ssh :D
[10:25] <runlevelten> also, on a lan, cygwin X does nicely.
[10:25] <Level15> runlevelten: ugh... that also eats a lot of bandwidth... but that's why you said "on a LAN"
[10:25] <Assid> hrmm.. i wanna try it
[10:25] <Assid> anyone wanna run nx?
[10:25] <tank71> anyone know anything about harddrives?
[10:25] <trekdanne> Level15: ah ok
[10:26] <Level15> tank71: i know something... just dunno if it's what u need :D
[10:26] <runlevelten> I like being able to use an individual GUI app if I have to use a windows machine
[10:26] <Level15> tank71: shoot
[10:26] <runlevelten> ie: amarok or kmail
[10:26] <idcoctor-1> Ya dont buy Maxtors
[10:26] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: or you can edit the file with "kate .kde/Autostart/beryl<press tab here to complete>" and put the type as Application
[10:26] <tank71> ok so no Maxtor lol
[10:26] <Dragnslcr> tank71- they have circles in them that store lots of pictures and stuff
[10:26] <nosrednaekim> and they can break if you short them out
[10:26] <tank71> hmm learning more and more wow
[10:26] <idcoctor-1> anythink else is ok
[10:27] <chovy_> anyone know how to determine aspect ratio?
[10:27] <tank71> exactly how hard would it be to put another harddrive into another computer...install ubuntu on it...and not mess up the hd that has win on it
[10:27] <Dragnslcr> chovy_- don't you just divide?
[10:27] <nosrednaekim> chovy_: put horizontalpixels over vertical pixels and simplify
[10:27] <tank71> not that I ever use the HD with win on it thought...just have a lot of files I might need some day on it
[10:27] <Dragnslcr> tank71- quite easy, especially if you unplug the other hard drive first
[10:27] <chovy_> i meant for an avi
[10:28] <morph_> !adpetfix
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> tank71: very very easy
[10:28] <tank71> so how would I go about that
[10:28] <morph_> !adeptfix
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adpetfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <Dragnslcr> tank71- in theory, installing Ubuntu won't touch any drives that you don't tell it to
[10:28] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:28] <tank71> ya so how do I install the harddrive?
[10:28] <idcoctor-1> TANK71 just partition the first hard drive, and put linux on the second partition
[10:28] <tank71> its full
[10:29] <tank71> its only 40 gb
[10:29] <Wiggles> nosrednaekim, tab doesn't do anything
[10:29] <Dragnslcr> tank71- just to be safe, I would suggest just disconnecting the drive you don't want touched
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: you doing this from the command line?
[10:29] <Dragnslcr> tank71- you wouldn't need it during the install anyway
[10:29] <idcoctor-1> Yes I agree
[10:29] <tank71> ya but I've never installed a harddrive what do I do just plug it in?
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: but if he wants to dual boot...
[10:29] <Wiggles> nosrednaekim, i'm using Konsole
[10:29] <Level15> tank71: sata?
[10:29] <tank71> and yes I want to dual boot
[10:29] <Assid> i need some eye candy
[10:30] <Level15> tank71: yeah, plug it in
[10:30] <tank71> buy an sata harddrive?
[10:30] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: do "ls .kde/Autostart" and see what the shortcut is named
[10:30] <AloBlumenau> why when I stop a service form system services, nothing happens?
[10:30] <bluevapour> do "lite" themes improve performance?
[10:30] <AloBlumenau> still running
[10:30] <Level15> AloBlumenau: meaning, the service is not stopped?
[10:30] <Level15> AloBlumenau: stop it from the clo
[10:30] <Level15> *cli
[10:30] <tank71> ok so lets say I go to the store right now pick up a 60 gb harddrive...I can just plug it in...install ubuntu on it and be able to dual boot?
[10:30] <AloBlumenau> form where?
[10:30] <Level15>  /etc/init.d/myservice stop
[10:31] <Wiggles> nosrednaekim, Beryl.desktop
[10:31] <Level15> tank71: pretty much
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: ah ok....
[10:31] <Level15> tank71: is your box using sata or IDE?
[10:31] <tank71> so how do I setup the dual booting?
[10:31] <AloBlumenau> not system service crash
[10:31] <tank71> I dont know to be honest
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: edit the file with "kate .kde/Autostart/Beryl<press tab here to complete>" and put the type as Application
[10:31] <AloBlumenau> god dami,
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> ^^I added a capital B
[10:31] <Level15> tank71: ubuntu's install will make sure you can dual boot installing grub
[10:32] <AloBlumenau> everything I have to install need another package
[10:32] <AloBlumenau> bah
[10:32] <tank71> ok so whats this sata or IDE?
[10:32] <AloBlumenau> i'll go back to windows
[10:32] <Level15> tank71: just make sure grub gets installed on the MBR of the first HD, which will probably be windows drive
[10:32] <tank71> MBR?
[10:32] <Level15> tank71: it's the bus technology used to connect the HD to the MB
[10:32] <tank71> so could I look at it and tell you?
[10:32] <runlevelten> because windows contains more stuff than ubuntu by default?! hej
[10:33] <Level15> tank71: u need to know which one your MB supports before going to buy your new HD
[10:33] <vsudilov> stdin: Still no right click menu...let me check your manual install file and see if everythign was put where it needs to go
[10:33] <Level15> tank71: sure
[10:33] <Level15> tank71: is it a white belt/tape like connector?
[10:33] <Wiggles> nosrednaekim, i should add "Type=Application"?
[10:33] <tank71> sec
[10:33] <Level15> ok
[10:33] <bluevapour> Anyone know any really coooooool themes to look for on kde-look.org? i want darkgreen/bkac
[10:33] <AloBlumenau> runlevelten: because is much better
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: there should already be a Type=<blank> but if there isn't, yes.
[10:34] <stdin> vsudilov: well the mountserv.desktop file needs to go to "~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/mountserv.desktop"  for a user install and "/usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/mountserv.desktop" for a system install
[10:34] <tank71>  Level15: its a whole bunch of wires that go into the harddrive
[10:34] <tank71> like let me count...
[10:34] <Level15> runlevelten: well, messaging and mail, yes... that crappy outlook express and windows MSN...
[10:34] <Level15> tank71: wtf?
[10:34] <tank71> maybe I'm way wrong
[10:34] <tank71> sec
[10:35] <Level15> tank71: but they are all on a single white ribbon, right?
[10:35] <tank71> nope
[10:35] <AloBlumenau> please
[10:35] <Level15> tank71: oh, maybe you are looking at the power cords
[10:35] <AloBlumenau> can anyone help me setup smb
[10:35] <runlevelten> msn does msn only. No good to me. Outlook maybe, not that I'd use it myself :)
[10:35] <Level15> tank71: there must be another thing besides that
[10:35] <tank71> ya I was
[10:35] <tank71> I see...one white ribbon thing
[10:35] <Level15> runlevelten: yeah, i know. it sucks. someone should just bomb login.live.com
[10:35] <AloBlumenau> I'm trying with swat but this f##$ shit doesnt work
[10:35] <Level15> tank71: ok, so it's IDE
[10:35] <tank71> now wouldnt I need too white ribbon things lol
[10:36] <Level15> tank71: dependes
[10:36] <tank71> there is another one
[10:36] <Level15> tank71: how many white ribbons are in total? and how many CD/DVD/HD devices do you have?have
[10:36] <tank71> I just found it
[10:36] <runlevelten> You're calling it shizzle because a windows program doesn't work? How many of my compiled linux binaries do you suppose a windows install could run?
[10:36] <AloBlumenau> root@jupiter:/etc# ps axv | grep inetd
[10:36] <AloBlumenau>  9492 ?        Ss     0:00      0    17  1630   464  0.0 inetd stop
[10:36] <AloBlumenau>  9505 ?        Ss     0:00      0    17  1626   460  0.0 inetd start
[10:36] <AloBlumenau>  9542 pts/3    S+     0:00      0    91  2788   764  0.0 grep inetd
[10:36] <AloBlumenau> how its possible?
[10:36] <runlevelten> I'll tell you, NONE. Give it a fair crack of the whip if you're "comparing" it :)
[10:37] <Wiggles> Service '/home/devin/.kde/Autostart/Beryl.desktop' is malformatted.
[10:37] <Wiggles> ^I get that
[10:37] <tank71> I have one CD drive  (that doesnt work)<- that could be a problem? 1 HD and 1 xtra
[10:37] <Level15> q xtra what?
[10:37] <tank71> white ribbon thing
[10:37] <jhutchins> Wiggles: The error message says what's wrong.
[10:38] <Level15> tank71: here's what i'd do. get rid of the CD, buy HD, plug it on the unused white ribbon
[10:38] <Level15> linux should detect it as /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd
[10:38] <tank71> how would I install ubuntu without a CD?
[10:38] <Wiggles> jhutchins, how can i fix it?
[10:38] <Level15> tank71: make sure linux installs there, and NOT on /dev/hda unless you want to lose your windoze
[10:38] <Assid> you know.. the kubuntu DVD is bad :(
[10:38] <Assid> i had to use the CD to install
[10:39] <vsudilov> stdin: k, got everything where it needs to go and it works fine. Your readme explains everything pretty clearly, should have just started with those instructions
[10:39] <vsudilov> stdin: ty for the help, and the scripts ;)
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: you have a messed up .dersktop file, pastebin it please
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[10:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:39] <dipin> hey
[10:39] <dipin> how does work now, how would install packages, and drivers for some things
[10:39] <stdin> vsudilov: thanks :)
[10:39] <tank71> hmmm so I guess I should just try and see what goes wrong?
[10:39] <dipin> i mean kubuntu is a live cd, right?
[10:39] <dipin> can just someone explain how that works
[10:39] <Level15> tank71: lol... yes... that's the way to learn
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> dipin: you can oly do that kind of stuff when you install iot
[10:40] <tank71> ok well I gotta go get a hd
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> *it
[10:40] <tank71> how much do you think a 60 gig IDE harddrive will cost?
[10:40] <Level15> dipin: a live cd is a full OS that is booted from the CD and loaded into RAM. it can be fully used w/o touching your HD
[10:40] <stdin> dipin: you usually install kubuntu before you try installing packages
[10:40] <Wiggles> nosrednaekim, how can i find the .desktop file?
[10:40] <Dragnslcr> tank71- I doubt you could even find one
[10:40] <runlevelten> wiggle: here is a clean functional beryl.desktop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33380/
[10:40] <dipin> nosrednaekim: so i can not install anything? can i actually install this stinking kubuntu?
[10:40] <Level15> tank71: i guess that depends on where you are.
[10:40] <Dragnslcr> tank71- most places won't sell smaller than 80 or 120
[10:40] <tank71> hmm so then what am I looking for...
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> about $30
[10:40] <tank71> ok how about a 80 gb ide?
[10:41] <Dragnslcr> tank71- you can probably get a 250 GB drive for $80 or so
[10:41] <runlevelten> Wiggles: ^ save that in a file and replace the one you have.
[10:41] <tank71> I'm not rich :D
[10:41] <Level15> Dragnslcr: are there 250 GB IDE drives?
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: "kate .kde/Autostart/Beryl.desktop"
[10:41] <tank71> I'm working with three old computer given to me
[10:41] <dipin> nosrednaekim: man i thought i downloaded the install version, iddnt want live ;(
[10:41] <saylar> i just 500GB SATA for 100 euros
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> dipin: yes...
[10:41] <Level15> tank71: the problem is that a 60 GB can be hard to find nowdays...
[10:41] <dipin> nosrednaekim: i got it from here http://ubuntu.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/feisty/
[10:41] <tank71> so an 80GB IDE should cose me like 45?
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> dipin: you can install off the liveCD
[10:42] <tank71> cost*
[10:42] <saylar> since they're outdated they cost pretty much
[10:42] <Level15> tank71: maybe a little bit more...
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> dipin: which one?
[10:42] <Dragnslcr> tank71- yeah, you can 250 GB IDE drives
[10:42] <Level15> tank71: i don't think you can get anything below 120/160 GB
[10:42] <dipin> nosrednaekim: can up lease point me to the right place, to install kubuntu then use internet to install some packages, so i basicly need one cd
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> tank71: yeah more or less
[10:42] <dipin> nosrednaekim: one cd to install kubuntu
[10:42] <tank71> ok well thanks for the help everyone I'll go look around and see what I can find
[10:43] <tank71> without overdrawing my card -_-
[10:43] <tank71> I'll be back....sometime
[10:43] <Dragnslcr> Hard disks are dirt cheap
[10:43] <Dragnslcr> And constantly getting cheaper
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> dipin: did you DL a CD already?
[10:43] <dipin> nosrednaekim: yes i downloaded this
[10:44] <dipin> nosrednaekim: http://ubuntu.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[10:44] <dipin> nosrednaekim: but apereantly thats the live cd right?
[10:44] <dipin> nosrednaekim: i need one that i can actually install
[10:44] <nosrednaekim> dipin: ok, great! thats the liveCD, but you can also install off of it
[10:44] <dipin> nosrednaekim: but i only have one cd-r left
[10:44] <dipin> nosrednaekim: ohh
[10:44] <tank71> ok one more thing then I'll go...what about installing grub...you said it had to be installed on the windows hd too?
[10:44] <dipin> nosrednaekim: i could
[10:44] <dipin> nosrednaekim: awsome
[10:45] <dipin> nosrednaekim: so it is a live cd and instalation cd?
[10:45] <dipin> nosrednaekim: will this cd alone load my ipw3945
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> dipin: yep, once you boot up, there will be an install icon on the desktop
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> right
[10:45] <Level15> tank71: grub should be installed on the MBR of the windows disk, since, that's where your BIOS will start looking for how to boot, unless you tell it otherwise
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> dipin: probably...
[10:46] <dipin> nosrednaekim: oh probably for the ipw3945 ?
[10:46] <tank71> so how would I go about installing grub on the windows disk?
[10:46] <tank71> I see what you mean though
[10:46] <dipin> nosrednaekim: i only get connection via wifi, what if it doesnt install the wireless driver :(
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> dipin: IDK as I don't have one. But you can test it before installing
[10:46] <Level15> tank71: i can't remmeber exactly, but there's a point on the installation where ubuntu will ask you where to install grub... tell it to use /dev/hda
[10:46] <dipin> nosrednaekim: well im sure the live cd will load wifi
[10:47] <dipin> nosrednaekim: argh
[10:47] <tank71> ok thanks
[10:47] <tank71> bbiaf
[10:47] <nosrednaekim> dipin: its not the end of the world.. you can grab packages while in windows and install them in linux.
[10:47] <tank71> damn lol I have like $60 on my card :S
[10:47] <Level15> nosrednaekim: i have that wifi card and it worked out of the bos with the livecd
[10:47] <Level15> *box
[10:47] <nosrednaekim> dipin: well, go test out the liveCD and see if it works.
[10:47] <dipin> Level15: and what about if i install kubuntu of the cd ? will driver still oad?
[10:47] <dipin> nosrednaekim: ok
[10:47] <Level15> dipin: yes
[10:47] <bluevapour> Guys
[10:48] <bluevapour> How do i make windows transparent in programs, i.e. firefox
[10:48] <dipin> Level15l: thank yuou, thank you nosrednaekim =)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) <-- one happy kupunter =)
[10:48] <bluevapour> So the page is normal, but the outside is transparent
[10:48] <Level15> and knetworkmanager will make it very easy to join a wireless network, unless it is the UofR campus network :S
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> dipin: go try it out first ;)
[10:48] <bluevapour> Anyone?
[10:49] <Level15> bluevapour: use beryl/compiz/compizfusion
[10:49] <bluevapour> Whats that
[10:49] <bluevapour> a program?
[10:49] <Level15> !desktop effects|bluevapour
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <bluevapour> ok
[10:49] <Level15> crap
[10:49] <Level15> well
[10:49] <bluevapour> nope :S
[10:50] <Level15> bluevapour: yes, it's a window manager with composite manager
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> !beryl | bluevapour
[10:50] <ubotu> bluevapour: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:50] <bluevapour> ok
[10:50] <bluevapour> also, if i only use one desktop, how do i remove the two panels to switch?
[10:50] <bluevapour> ive tried all i know
[10:51] <bluevapour> ive customised the tool bar etc, i just havent found what i need to remove that
[10:51] <runlevelten> two panels?
[10:51] <AloBlumenau> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[10:51] <Level15> bluevapour: unlock panels, then click on the small button next to them, and select remove ;)
[10:51] <AloBlumenau> removing or installing swat
[10:52] <bluevapour> how do i unlock panels
[10:52] <Level15> bluevapour: but i find having mutliple desktops quite useful
[10:52] <bluevapour> ahh
[10:52] <bluevapour> i see
[10:52] <bluevapour> i see now, i dont liek it tho
[10:52] <bluevapour> i only do one thing at once
[10:52] <Wiggles> for some reason, the beryl options in control center are autostarting instead of beryl-manager
[10:52] <bluevapour> minus downloading and bittorrenting
[10:53] <Level15> Wiggles: beryl options in control center? i didn't know that even existed!
[10:53] <joacim_> I want to rip my audio book to speex and used Ubuntu's Serpentine, but as I now use Kubuntu K3b seems to be the default app. Is it possible to use Speex (and flac) in K3b ? (a better way than installing Serpentine with the entire gnome dependencies)
[10:53] <runlevelten> Wiggles: that's because that's what you're linking in Autostart...
[10:53] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: what command did you specifiy?
[10:53] <bluevapour> so this beryl
[10:54] <runlevelten> beryl.desktop links to the control center module...
[10:54] <bluevapour> how do i use it or get itllol even
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: the program needs to be "beryl-manager"
[10:54] <SlimeyPete> !beryl
[10:54] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:54] <SlimeyPete> best to ask in there
[10:54] <bluevapour> oki doki
[10:54] <SlimeyPete> someone'll point you in the right direction
[10:54] <Level15> i think desktop effects are the most popular cause of support requests here...
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> yeah, that and hard drive mounting
[10:55] <runlevelten> they're the most popular cause of installation from what I can tell, too.
[10:55] <runlevelten> That and no viruses or spyware.
[10:55] <Level15> too bad desktop effects are not that mature yet
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[10:56] <Assid> hrmm
[10:56] <bluevapour> Will beryl apply to games?
[10:56] <Wiggles> nosrednaekim, so, should i change "Beryl.desktop" to "beryl-manager.desktop"
[10:56] <Assid> i think msft will be hating me soon enough
[10:57] <Level15> msft?
[10:57] <Level15> !msft
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <Level15> hm
[10:57] <Assid> microsoft
[10:57] <SlimeyPete> bluevapour: fullscreen 3D games won't be affected (though they may run slower)
[10:57] <Level15> Assid: oh, trust me, they never loved you... they love your money, though...
[10:57] <SlimeyPete> 2D games running in a window will have the beryl effects applied to them
[10:57] <runlevelten> kwin + effects. That's what I want. Keep Dolphin, plasma et cetera, kwin + effects with stability.
[10:57] <Assid> Level15: well.. now its prolly worse
[10:57] <Assid> runlevelten: plasma ?
[10:57] <runlevelten> Because damn, the drop in replacements are TERRIBLE compared to kwin.
[10:57] <nosrednaekim> Wiggles: no.... change the application within the .desktop from whatever it is to beryl-manager
[10:57] <bluevapour> Ahh ok
[10:57] <bluevapour> Right last thing
[10:58] <bluevapour> Ive read about it
[10:58] <Dragnslcr> bluevapour- you'll probably want to switch back to kwin if you're playing any fullscreen GL games
[10:58] <bluevapour> ahh ok
[10:58] <Assid> runlevelten: plasmoids are on gutsy only right ?
[10:58] <bluevapour> i was told, that the best client is Rtorrent with screen for torrenting ofc
[10:58] <Level15> kwin is the best WM ever, IMHO
[10:58] <bluevapour> how do i use screen
[10:58] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: hi i looking how to mount back my ntfx xp partition on my desktop.it does want to mount any more only when i force it but when i log out back in it's not mounted
[10:58] <bluevapour> ive used rtorret
[10:58] <bluevapour> its powerful and lite
[10:58] <Dragnslcr> Beryl and Compiz don't always get along with other GL apps
[10:58] <Level15> closely followed by fluxbox
[10:59] <Assid> bluevapour: i personally use utorrent.. through wine
[10:59] <bluevapour> Not lite, and more resources though?
[10:59] <runlevelten> I use ktorrent.
[10:59] <Level15> ktorrent works fine
[10:59] <Dragnslcr> I think my only real wish for kwin was a global option for remembering window sizes and positions
[10:59] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: i try to eneble it it says it allready mounted or its busy
[10:59] <Level15> Dragnslcr: i think that's possible, though i have never done it...
[10:59] <Assid> does plasmoids work on feisty?
[11:00] <chovy_> ktorrent needs a find key
[11:00] <Level15> Assid: if you install KDE4 beta, i guess they do
[11:00] <adenicio> Dragnslcr: : hi i looking how to mount back my ntfx xp partition on my desktop.it does want to mount any more only when i force it but when i log out back in it's not mounted
[11:00] <Dragnslcr> Level15- I only ever found how to do it for specific windows
[11:00] <Assid> hrmm wouldnt be feisty then
[11:00] <adenicio> ntfs
[11:00] <Level15> Dragnslcr: and ou want them for what exactly?
[11:00] <adenicio> !mount
[11:00] <Level15> *you
[11:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:00] <Dragnslcr> Assid- you can install KDE4 on Feisty
[11:00] <Assid> kinda scary using kde4 beta on a production box
[11:00] <runlevelten> You can install it alongside your current version.
[11:01] <Assid> alongside ?
[11:01] <Dragnslcr> Level15- think you meant to ask adenicio that
[11:01] <Assid> really?
[11:01] <Level15> Assid: then you'd better stick to kde 3 w/o plasmoids
[11:01] <Assid> hehe.. k
[11:01] <adenicio> Dragnslcr: hien???
[11:01] <Level15> Dragnslcr: no, i meant, what is what you wanted kwin to do??
[11:01] <Assid> how do i make dolphin the default file manager
[11:01] <Level15> adenicio: n/m
[11:01] <Dragnslcr> I keep thinking I should try the KDE4 beta, but I'm too scared of hosing my box
[11:02] <Dragnslcr> Level15- global option to remember window size and position. It was annoying to have to set it for every window
[11:02] <Level15> Dragnslcr: oh, i understand now... yeah, i don't think there's such an option
[11:02] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, which kinda surprises me
[11:02] <saylar> anyone got an idea why i still got not space left on my device, even i deleted some files and emptied the trash?
[11:02] <adenicio> Level15: : hi i looking how to mount back my ntfx xp partition on my desktop.it does want to mount any more only when i force it but when i log out back in it's not mounted
[11:02] <Dragnslcr> I'd think someone would have complained quite loudly about that by now
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: reallyno danger of that
[11:03] <Level15> adenicio: you need to add it to /etc/fstab
[11:03] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- you'd be surprised how good I am at breaking stuff
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: go into system settings-> advance-> disks
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: haha
[11:04] <ubuntu_> would soemone tell me
[11:04] <bluevapour> anyone here wana show me how to use screen?
[11:04] <ubuntu_> password for live cd kubuntu? as root
[11:04] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: and...?
[11:04] <Level15> ubuntu_: i think you must sudo
[11:04] <Level15> ubuntu_: sudo su -
[11:05] <ubuntu_> bluevapour: pretty much just run screen, and then ctrl+c to exit,
[11:05] <Level15> i *think*
[11:05] <ubuntu_> bluevapour: ctrl+ad will hide it
[11:05] <bluevapour> Awsome
[11:05] <Assid> i dont get it
[11:05] <ubuntu_> bluevapour: and to retrive it with will ne screen -r
[11:05] <ubuntu_> bluevapour: mmm screen -ls
[11:05] <ubuntu_> bluevapour: to check what u got open
[11:05] <Assid> if nvidia drivers byt default exist.. and X can detect nvidia
[11:05] <Assid> why doesnt it just "tune" it to get better support on its own
[11:05] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: add what to fstab?
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: administrator mode, and select the drive you want to mount, and modify the drive you want...
[11:06] <Assid> instead of adding the whole GLXVisuals and everything ourselves
[11:06] <RandMC_> Is there possibly a program that can increase the brightness of a laptop screen?
[11:06] <ubuntu_> bluevapour: u got it?
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> *modify IT how you want
[11:06] <bluevapour> sort of
[11:06] <ubuntu_> bluevapour: i must go bye
[11:06] <bluevapour> cheers
[11:06] <bluevapour> bb
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> this adds things to fstab..
[11:06] <Level15> RandMC_: usually the laptop has some Fn + key combination for that
[11:06] <bluevapour> with screen
[11:06] <bluevapour> where do i push these hotkeys?
[11:06] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: did that allready it says drive allready mount or its busy
[11:06] <chris_> What's the name of the metapackage for gcc?
[11:06] <RandMC_> allright I will try that.
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> RandMC_: thats ussualy a hardware thing
[11:07] <Level15> LVM + reiserfs own
[11:07] <Level15> :D
[11:07] <RandMC_> okay thanks.
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> chris_: gcc is already installed.... but its "build-essential"
[11:08] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: ...
[11:08] <chris_> nosrednaekim: thanks
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: did you just manually mount it?
[11:08] <Level15> adenicio: reboot, then do the system settings->advanced_>disks thingy
[11:08] <bluevapour> what could i use with rtorrent so i dont have to restart downloads each time?
[11:09] <bluevapour> by putting in names again
[11:09] <bluevapour> cause thats the only prob i  have with it
[11:09] <Level15> all right fellows... gotta go
[11:09] <Level15> cya later
[11:10] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: it was working at firts untill i modify the fstab to add ntfs 3g.i had to unmount and remount after that i turn of the pc turn back on it not there.i foce it to mount it did but never stay mounted
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: thats a problem with your fstab
[11:11] <adenicio> Level15:???did that allready
[11:11] <bluevapour> what is lightest torrent manage to use
[11:11] <bluevapour> for performance
[11:13] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: if i erase the lines where it got the name of the ntfs  hdd will i help or damage it self?
[11:14] <bluevapour> anyone? whats the best torrent manager?
[11:14] <Dragnslcr> I thought KTorrent was good when I used it
[11:17] <Assid> anyone know if  a mac opens .ogg files without any issues?
[11:17] <Biovore> it should
[11:18] <Biovore> might need to install the codec for mac..
[11:18] <Assid> wonder how to convert it to quicktime
[11:18] <Biovore> depends whats the ogg file contains..  theora? xvid? divx?
[11:18] <Assid> theora
[11:18] <Biovore> there are theora codecs for everything..
[11:18] <Biovore> should work on a mac..
[11:20] <bluevapour> Guys my desktop looks really cool so when i lock session can i keep desktop in backgrond
[11:20] <bluevapour> literally with everything im doing
[11:20] <bluevapour> so its my desktop in realtime but the cant do anything till they put pass in
[11:20] <stdin> that's what it does anyway
[11:21] <bluevapour> stdin
[11:21] <stdin> it's just like a screensaver that needs a pass, everything still runs
[11:21] <bluevapour> what would you say was lightest torrent client?
[11:22] <stdin> probably rtorrent
[11:22] <bluevapour> but they need the torrent names inputting each time
[11:22] <bluevapour> so that really does suck
[11:22] <bluevapour> or is there a fix for that?
[11:23] <stdin> I don't know, I just use ktorrent
[11:23] <bluevapour> Ahhh
[11:23] <bluevapour> ok
[11:25] <Fieryfly> \;
[11:28] <adenicio> stdin: are u good in mountin partitions?(hdd's)?
[11:28] <stdin> I guess...
[11:30] <stdin> adenicio: why?
[11:31] <adenicio> stdin: dont worry i found how to.but hmm the mount partition look like a folder u know where are the icon's that look like hdd's are?
[11:32] <adenicio> so i can change it
[11:32] <stdin> in /usr/share/icons/...
[11:32] <emilsedgh> adenicio: /media :P
[11:35] <elite101> why do ppl like macs? even thou a new line up came out but why? whats so cool about 1 button mouse/no games/u cant build it ur self?
[11:36] <adenicio> stdin: if your no to busy can u tell me in wich folder the icon that look like a hdd are
[11:36] <adenicio> please
[11:37] <emilsedgh> elite101: I dunno too! but I hope things will change with KDE's new major release...
[11:37] <elite101> lol yeah kinda off-topic
[11:38] <stdin> adenicio: it'd be in /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/devices
[11:41] <adenicio> stdin: lol now all my folder in the partiotn look like hdd's :-/ thats funny
[11:41] <elite101> well just wondering say there is a WINE alternative for windows programs on linux can i use a emulatore for say MAC programs? on a windows pc?
[11:42] <elite101> like the one im on now?
[11:42] <elite101> or no?
[11:42] <stdin> elite101: Wine Is Not an Emulator (spells WINE)
[11:43] <elite101> i knw
[11:43] <elite101> but like
[11:43] <elite101> is there one for mac?
[11:43] <elite101> on windows pc
[11:44] <adenicio> elite101: wa so good about a mac?
[11:44] <elite101> the movie editing
[11:44] <stdin> you want windows help?
[11:44] <stdin> !windows | elite101
[11:44] <elite101> garage band
[11:44] <ubotu> elite101: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:44] <stdin> :)
[11:44] <elite101> Err
[11:44] <elite101> i mean
[11:44] <Biovore> most OS X stuff is unix based..
[11:44] <elite101> a MAC is diff than a PC so can u run MAC programs on a PC
[11:44] <Biovore> easy to port..
[11:45] <elite101> so then u can use it on linux
[11:45] <elite101> the MAC programs?
[11:45] <elite101> MINE*?
[11:45] <Biovore> not directly..
[11:45] <elite101> like WINE
[11:45] <stdin> elite101: short answer: no
[11:45] <Biovore> Even though in theory it wouldn't be as hard as windows...
[11:45] <elite101> k thanx
[11:46] <kyle__> could someone please help me get my soundcard working?
[11:47] <kyle__> could someone please help me get my soundcard working?
[11:47] <elite101> i had this happen^
[11:47] <kyle__> oh
[11:47] <elite101> whats wrong?
[11:48] <adenicio> i hate amule!its allways a server prob.how do i get servers to connect to?
[11:48] <kyle__> well i htink i need a driver.
[11:48] <kyle__> when i try ot open the volume control i get error messages
[11:48] <Assid> okay 1 person moving to linux.. one person moved to mac. not including me in the count
[11:48] <Assid> who should i convert next
[11:49] <kyle__> IM this kid Assid
[11:49] <kyle__> xsuckxitx7
[11:49] <Assid> ???
[11:49] <kyle__> convert him =] 
[11:50] <Assid> haha no way
[11:50] <kyle__> aww =[ i keep trying to explain to him how awesome linux is
[11:50] <kyle__> he just says "its free software, it HAS to suck"
[11:50] <bluevapour> Guys
[11:50] <Assid> get him on irc
[11:50] <Karti> Hi all, just had to reinstall 64 bit Kubuntu as my normal 32 bit PC died :( Are there any issues that I should worry about?
[11:50] <bluevapour> Where is True Combat Elite install file?
[11:50] <bluevapour> Ic ant find it
[11:50] <Assid> Karti: 16bit burial ?
[11:51] <Assid> hehe.. j/k
[11:51] <Assid> Karti:  jjust reinstall 32 bit version
[11:51] <adenicio> i hate amule!its allways a server prob.how do i get servers to connect to?
[11:52] <Karti> pretty much.......but I'm afraid its a motherboard issue, it's gone to a safer place. The only thing that will install on this AMD 2 is the 64 bit
[11:52] <adenicio> which channel i have to go to to get help with my printer?
[11:52] <Assid> oh.. okay
[11:52] <Assid> your reinstallingthe 64bit right ?
[11:53] <Karti> Assid: I normally follow a procedure to get my system up and running, but I had problems getting my encryted dvds to play
[11:53] <Karti> I'm on the 64bit now
[11:53] <Assid> encrypted dvds?
[11:53] <Karti> Assid: yes
[11:54] <Assid> what you mean encrypted dvds?
[11:54] <adenicio> stdin: how do u get to rename file by just clikin on there name?
[11:54] <Karti> I was following the libdvdread3 instructions
[11:54] <Karti> Assid: normal movies etc
[11:55] <DaSkreech> !dvd
[11:55] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:55] <stdin> adenicio: not sure, I never use that
[11:55] <adenicio> ok
[11:57] <miles> Biovre?
[11:57] <DaSkreech> miles: French?
[11:57] <miles> no, Biovre is someone that frequents this channel
[11:58] <miles> he programs C, i had a C question for him
[11:58] <miles> i think its a he
[11:58] <runlevelten> biovore...
[11:58] <miles> o nose
[11:58] <miles> i spelt the name wrong?
[11:58] <Biovore> oO
[11:58] <miles> im sorry, i never saw the second o
[11:59] <DaSkreech> !tab | mila
[11:59] <ubotu> mila: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:59] <miles> i dont htink biovre is a french word tho, i too french in high school
[11:59] <DaSkreech> !tab | miles
[11:59] <ubotu> miles: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:59] <stdin> miles: ##C ?
[11:59] <runlevelten> DaSkreech: Irony rocks. :)
[11:59] <miles> no C
[11:59] <miles> and i know about tab, but is it possible to run "| grep [name] " after thaat?
[11:59] <DaSkreech> runlevelten: Or sucks depending on which part of the net you stand on
[12:00] <stdin> miles: no, that's a channel for C users/programmers
[12:00] <miles> so i could of done "[tab]  | grep Bio"
[12:00] <miles> you know what, im using a cli irc client right now and the window is real transparent, i cant see colors well\
[12:00] <miles> but look, 2 questions
[12:00] <miles> so i could of done "[tab]  | grep Bio" ??
[12:01] <Biovore> ?
[12:01] <miles> or  i could of done "[tab]  | grep miles" to see who is in here named "miles"???
[12:01] <Biovore> ^ that looks like bash script.. not c
[12:01] <DaSkreech> miles: you could type bio and press tab
[12:01] <miles> o sick
[12:01] <miles> thanks, that helps a lot
[12:01] <Biovore> yeah tab autocomplete
[12:02] <DaSkreech> that should at least give you the first person who's name starts with that string
[12:02] <Biovore> 2 tabs shows options
[12:02] <miles> ok, so what kind of C programming do you do?
[12:02] <Biovore> all kinds..  QT4, embbedded systems.. etc
[12:02] <DaSkreech>  at best it gives you a list of all names with that string with the Name you want highlighted by magic
[12:02] <miles> embedded systems? thats what im interested in programming
[12:02] <miles> i am starting to study C because i want to do that
[12:02] <miles> embed systems that is
[12:03] <Biovore> I been playing with gumstix here at home.. www.gumstix.org
[12:03] <DaSkreech> !info kplayer
[12:03] <ubotu> Package kplayer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:03] <DaSkreech> grrr
[12:03] <miles> cool, im gonna check that out right now
[12:03] <Biovore> little linux embedded systems.. size of a stick of gum.
[12:03] <jhutchins> Is there a console command that will tell me if there is media in a burner?
[12:03] <Biovore> 600 MHz 128MB ram on something thats smaller then your wallet
[12:03] <Karti> DaSkreech: I got some errors that I can investigate tomorrow with the dvd playing but it appears to work fine.
[12:03] <Biovore> dinner time.. bbl
[12:03] <DaSkreech> Karti: Nest
[12:03] <DaSkreech> neat
[12:04] <Karti> Assid: Thanks for the help
[12:04] <Karti> DaSkreech: I hope the rest of the 64 bit is as easy!
[12:04] <Assid> np
[12:04] <miles> ok C is crazy
[12:04] <DaSkreech> Krazy!
[12:05] <miles> i <3 it tho
[12:05] <DaSkreech> Karti: except for Flash and win64codecs yes it is
[12:05] <meuhlol> lol
[12:07] <Karti> DaSkreech: I installed the win64codecs, assuming they work as I can watch a dvd, but is Flash an issue? rather than a normal install?
[12:08] <DaSkreech> Karti: ha ha :-)
[12:08] <DaSkreech> !flash 64
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash 64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <DaSkreech> Drat
[12:08] <DaSkreech> !flash
[12:08] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:08] <DaSkreech> I think that does 64 bit flash
[12:08] <DaSkreech> !find flash
[12:08] <ubotu> Found: flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer, libflash0c2 (and 4 others)
[12:08] <DaSkreech> !search flash
[12:08] <ubotu> Found: flash 9, gnash, flash64, fffc, flash, flash64bit, flash9, flashplayer, font
[12:08] <DaSkreech> !flash64bit
[12:08] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[12:08] <DaSkreech> there we go
[12:09] <DaSkreech> Karti: ^^^
[12:09] <Lopin> Okay...  Anyone know how to get a hold of NDISwrapper without an internet connection?
[12:09] <Karti> DaSkreech: The worst thing is that I would be happy to get a new 32 bit pc, but its cheaper to get 64
[12:09] <miles> you need to get the binary or source some how Lopin
[12:11] <miles> Lopin, all u gotta do is get the deb somewhere and place it on a usb.  mount the usb and copy the deb over to  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:11] <miles> then you can run apt-get on it
[12:11] <miles> !find ndis
[12:11] <ubotu> Found: linux-image-2.6.20-15-386, linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server-bigiron, ndiswrapper-common (and 10 others)
[12:12] <miles> if you dont have an internet connection, how are you talkin to me right now?
[12:12] <Lopin> DEB!
[12:12] <aguitel> how i shutdown a proccess with terminal?
[12:12] <miles> "shutdown -t now"
[12:12] <miles> i thkn
[12:12] <Lopin> I do, but I'm in windows...  My internal WiFi card works through windows...
[12:13] <stdin> aguitel: no
[12:13] <bluevapour> Guys to install enemy territory
[12:13] <bluevapour> should i use sudo?
[12:13] <miles> ya, go to http://packages.ubuntu.org
[12:13] <stdin> aguitel: kill (pid), or killall name
[12:13] <Lopin> Thanks!
[12:13] <miles> search for ndis, download it onto usb
[12:13] <bluevapour> Should i use Sudo to install Enemy Territory?
[12:13] <miles> bluevapour, i dont know, but if you figure out tell me, i couldnt get it to install
[12:13] <miles> i love that game!
[12:14] <bluevapour> Lol
[12:14] <bluevapour> ill do it :D
[12:14] <bluevapour> you wait!