=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-meeting.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 11 Aug 17:00 UTC: Xubuntu Developers | 14 Aug 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 14 Aug 19:00 UTC: Technical Board | 15 Aug 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 16 Aug 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 20 Aug 22:00 UTC: Forum Council meeting === Topic (#ubuntu-meeting): set by ubotu at Fri Aug 10 08:30:12 2007 === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D80EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === n2diy_ [n=darryl@69.72.85.129] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mayeco [n=mayeco@200.75.192.12] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mayeco [n=mayeco@200.75.192.12] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Zic 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14 Aug 19:00 UTC: Technical Board | 15 Aug 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 16 Aug 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 20 Aug 22:00 UTC: Forum Council meeting === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:11] is there anyone? === TheSheep [i=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-253-140.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === DarkRavenLogBot_ [n=DarkRave@dsl-241-214-220.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508DAF95.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === DarkRaven [n=dvwyngaa@dsl-241-214-220.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["bar"] === ScottLij [n=scott@24-180-196-49.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d37-112.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === vidd [n=vidd@216-107-0-210-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:40] sorry im late [07:41] is it over already? [07:41] looks like it didn't start [07:42] someone start it === Jester45 starts it [07:43] i dont think it started because the log isnt there [07:45] who is supposed to start it? [07:45] no idea [07:45] ok then [07:45] um [07:46] alright, who's all here? [07:46] i dont think any of the key developers are here [07:47] maybe they decided to change it === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.100.56] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:49] well [07:49] there is no other meetings today [07:49] so we should just wait [07:50] the meeting website says the 14th is the next meeting....1700 UTC .... === fijam [n=fijam@unaffiliated/fijam] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:50] maybe ubotu got the date wrong? [07:50] @schedule berlin [07:50] Schedule for Europe/Berlin: Current meeting: Xubuntu Developers | 14 Aug 17:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 14 Aug 21:00: Technical Board | 15 Aug 22:00: Edubuntu | 16 Aug 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 21 Aug 00:00: Forum Council meeting [07:54] fridge says 11 [07:54] yeah === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Rowan [n=rowan@dsl-dhcp-205-007.kpunet.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:56] well...lets start the meeting then [07:56] who has the agenda? [07:56] /Xubuntu/Meetings does not though === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:57] was anyone here at the start of the hour? [07:57] yes i was [07:57] did anything happen? [07:57] but the first signal of life in the meeting was yours, vidd [07:58] did anything get said about the meeting at all? [07:58] no, anything [07:58] graet! [07:58] hehe [07:58] and there's no agenda I'm afraid. [07:58] you're the boss, take it away [07:58] ok [07:58] so is chad here? [07:58] or does anyone have an update on that? [07:59] on the protocol web site [07:59] then the first item i would like to bring up is meeting anouncement [08:00] there should be a meeting anouncement e-mail sent to the devel mailing list [08:00] agreed [08:01] I'd also suggest to keep /Xubuntu/Meetings up to date :) [08:01] yes [08:01] its terrible behind [08:01] here here!! [08:02] so with that...is there anyone here with any real authority with the devel team? [08:02] i wish i did but i would get kicked out [08:03] ? [08:03] I don't know enough Code to become a devel yet [08:03] Oh, yeah, and the adding games to Xubuntu...failed [08:04] good :) [08:04] adding games got shot down? [08:04] no [08:04] there was no room left :P [08:04] no ROOM?!?!?!? [08:05] that's what I was told [08:05] vidd: the cd has to fit on 700MB, you know [08:06] actually [08:06] there was like 3mb of space [08:06] yeah....and the games are ALREADY in the reposes [08:06] but they said it was reserved [08:06] they could get xoids on there === Lutin [n=Lutin@ubuntu/member/lutin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:06] hehe [08:06] I was only gonna add like 300 kb of games :P [08:06] but they said no [08:06] 3 lines of code...bang...games installed [08:07] hehe [08:08] the alt cd needs to be promoted as the default installer....the live versions have been trash since they started with breezey [08:08] true [08:08] i agree === bashelier [n=arthur@gov91-1-82-234-91-6.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:08] seperate the live cd from the install cd [08:09] something like "if you want to test try the live if your wanting to install try the alternative" [08:09] yeah [08:09] i wouldnt do that BFTD some people have slow internet and dont want to dl 2cds [08:09] but rename the alt to install [08:09] dont even BOTHER with putting an installer on the live cd,... that will free up all kinds of room! [08:09] the first to see if it works and they like it and the 2nd to install [08:09] that's what i siad [08:10] rename the "alt" cd to the "install" cd [08:10] is vidd repeating everything I'm saying? === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:11] and move the "installer" cd to the TOP of the "get Xubuntu" page [08:11] yeah [08:12] we should also promote the "net-installer" cd [08:13] at least make its easy to find [08:13] i havent used it but does it have an gui type like debian's advance option [08:14] that is a very nice feature === colossus73 [n=gt@ip-152-39.sn3.eutelia.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:15] hi there [08:15] hi [08:15] is there a xubuntu meeting today? === vidd [n=vidd@216-107-0-210-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [08:16] sorry... [08:16] its going on [08:16] vidd: welcome [08:16] i think its an unoffical one though [08:16] i havnet been reading it all === colossus73 [n=gt@ip-152-39.sn3.eutelia.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [08:22] right, so if anyone cares I can say how is the documentation stuff going [08:22] ok [08:22] I guess [08:22] so it is going _slowly_ [08:22] its slowed down lately [08:23] yeah [08:23] the progress can be tracked here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Documentation/Assignments [08:23] we have some troubles with libs/entities and this is a showstopper [08:23] otherwise it is quite easy to adapt ubuntu's documentation [08:24] what should go in lib/entities? [08:24] assin me something [08:25] I'll work on desktopeffects [08:25] there's nothing in there!! [08:26] yes. I've told Freddy and Jim there's nothing to be taken and that I see no point in working on several in parallel [08:26] as for the entities Freddy is taking care of this [08:27] he should've sorted it out already, though [08:28] however, I suppose the documentation will be done on time. [08:28] yeah [08:28] we have what...7 weeks? [08:29] more or less [08:30] doable. [08:31] How does one add stuff to the documentation? [08:32] well, you make a patch and send the commit to ubuntu-doc [08:38] ah [08:38] you just might want to contact the person who is currently modifying the given section in order not to duplicate the work. [08:38] ok [08:38] who's freddy? [08:38] Admiral_Chicago [08:38] ah [08:38] haha [08:38] ok [08:38] that makes it so much easier === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === vidd [n=vidd@216-107-0-210-dhcp.nni.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 14 Aug 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 14 Aug 19:00 UTC: Technical Board | 15 Aug 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 16 Aug 20:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 20 Aug 22:00 UTC: Forum Council meeting | 21 Aug 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team === DarkRaven [n=dvwyngaa@dsl-241-213-20.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tck [n=tck@213.202.191.158] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Meyvn [n=Arjen@cp708387-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ion [n=ion@71-35-75-172.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tck_ [n=tck@A-105-230.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-016-186.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === hagi [n=hagi@adsl-62-167-41-108.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-meeting