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=== Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved with the MOTUs? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | http://ubuntu.joejaxx.org/ - TOP 10 Uploaders/Packages | REVU likely down for the next few days
=== Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by Fujitsu at Wed Aug 8 04:01:59 2007
(superm1/#ubuntu-motu) night bddebian07:02
superm1Hobbsee, okay well i updated it, if you get some time this `date` to look over/upload i'd appreciate it, if not then i'll leave a response to colin's email for Riddell for any of the people CC'ed to look, upload and respond to the email if/when they do07:14
ajmitchRAOF: oh dear, you play WoW as well? :)07:14
=== Hobbsee emails the uni. again.
ajmitchhm, and StevenK is playing WoW as well, MOTU is going downhill07:16
ajmitchStevenK: I have it working fine with 0.9.41 from winehq on amd6407:17
RAOFajmitch: jml got me into it.  Blame him :)07:19
ajmitchmy flatmate got me into it07:20
RAOF"Masters of the Universe" sounds like a cool guild... :)07:21
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ajmitchhehe :)07:21
ajmitchthough we'll be on different servers07:21
=== ajmitch wonders which server StevenK is on
RAOF:/07:22
superm1how can you guys possibly find time for WoW, Ubuntu, and RL?07:22
Hobbseesuperm1: they dont.07:22
ajmitchI only work fulltime07:22
ajmitchWoW *is* RL07:22
superm1haha07:22
RAOFsuperm1: Big pants.  Helps tremendously :P07:22
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ajmitchsuperm1: plus having WoW just run windowed helps me use irc at the same time :)07:23
superm1well i can't imagine what it's like to be part of two cults at the same time :) One (Ubuntu) is enough for me :)07:24
ajmitchhe dares call it a cult07:25
=== ajmitch isn't even near level 70 yet :)
superm1haha07:26
ajmitchthe guild I'm has quite a few people in melbourne who are meeting up for dinner tonight, actually07:30
superm1see that's more justifiable then.07:32
=== Hobbsee wonders what would happen if all the MOTU's went and played WOW
ajmitchuniverse would suffer07:33
Hobbseeyes, but how much?07:33
ajmitchI think if they could limit their play time to a few hours a week at most, it'd be ok07:33
=== ajmitch even managed to do some ubuntu stuff last night
=== RAOF does limit his WoW time
elkbuntuRAOF, to 'waking hours'?07:34
=== RAOF hasn't yet got the telepathic interface installed on his laptop, so he can't play WoW in his sleep yet.
elkbuntuhehe07:35
=== ajmitch doesn't play it on the laptop
superm1RAOF, it's not just sudo apt-get install wow-telepathy yet?  Sounds like you've got something that needs packaging07:36
ajmitchI haven't tried with the i915 & wine :)07:36
RAOFIncidentally, granparadiso has finally got a feature I've been after for ages: native gtk-form widgets07:36
RAOFsuperm1: Sadly, the hardware doesn't have a linux driver yet :P07:36
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ajmitchwhat's their problem this time?07:39
RAOFThey can't run anything OpenGL while compiz is on.07:39
ajmitchthey can07:39
RAOFThey kill X as soon as I try.07:39
ajmitchit is just slow07:39
ajmitchI used to play WoW while compiz was enabled07:39
RAOFWhere as for *me*, it's a blinding fast killing of X.07:40
ajmitchit stuttered too much07:40
ajmitchwindowed or fullscreen?07:40
RAOFFullscreen07:40
ajmitchright, I have it windowed07:40
ajmitchyou should convince Hobbsee to start playing07:43
Hobbseehah07:43
Hobbseei dont really have time to do ubuntu stuff, if i want to pass uni, let alone WOW>07:43
ajmitchtrue :)07:44
ajmitchok, back later :)08:03
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HobbseeScottK: marked that u-r-e bug as fixed08:25
=== Hobbsee *is* one of the main developers of that :)
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zakamehello all08:45
Hobbseehiya zakame08:45
zakamehi Hobbsee08:45
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=== Fujitsu yawns.
Hobbseewake up Fujitsu...08:54
=== Fujitsu squashes some more RC bugs.
FujitsuI've filed too many sync requests today :(08:55
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FujitsuOh, lovely, I just accidentally SIGSTOPped compiz, and X decided it couldn't change to a VT until it woke up.09:08
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RAOFYay.  Electric sheep fix!09:39
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RAOF...and apt-proxy.10:04
RAOFNow, let's package Miro!10:05
davromaniakdamn, another new version of qtpfsgui was released, and I forgot to send my translation to the dev, :s10:07
vilhello10:07
davromaniakhello10:07
villooks like REVU moved somewhere10:07
vilany idea, where can I find it?10:07
Fujitsuvil: see /topic10:08
Fujitsusiretart: Can you possibly point revu.tauware.de to some page saying REVU is down for some time?10:08
vilFujitsu, silly me10:08
vil:)10:08
RAOFOr I could extend software-sources to be able to add repositories from a file.  Hm.10:10
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StevenKHrm. I think that's enough WoW.10:20
FujitsuStevenK: Hah. WORK!10:20
FujitsuIs WoW really that good?10:21
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=== StevenK is finding it enjoyable.
RAOFIt's more so with other people.10:23
RAOFIt needs integrated VoIP, though :)10:24
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DarkSun88Hi all10:29
RAOFHowdie.10:29
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ajmitchStevenK: amazing, you can stop when you need to ;)10:31
StevenKVery funny. ;-)10:32
ajmitchwho has seen the post about 'getlibs' on the list?10:32
ajmitchthat's just scary broken crack10:32
Fujitsume10:32
FujitsuProbably.10:32
ajmitchat least it doesn't dump straight into /usr/lib10:33
ajmitchStevenK: what realm & faction?10:33
=== StevenK has already forgotten.
ajmitchheh10:34
StevenKI'm doing so well today ...10:34
ajmitchjust started playing today?10:35
StevenKYup10:35
ajmitchpoor chap10:36
StevenKInstalled it and patched it up to 2.1.3 last night.10:36
ajmitchtrial account still?10:36
StevenKGuest Pass key, so far.10:37
RAOFRe: getlibs.  amd64 users do crazy, crazy things.10:38
RAOFI saw that on the forums and meant to bring it up sometime.10:39
=== ajmitch plays wine just fine on amd64 without such crack
ajmitchs/wine/wow/10:40
=== StevenK does too.
RAOFSo do I.  I'm not really sure of the use-case for it.10:40
=== Fujitsu wonders why the people who want all the i386 stuff don't just use i386.
ajmitchthough 0.9.42 had some interesting artifacts when I tried it10:40
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StevenKI just find it strange that I can't type in WoW when I run it under Gnome.10:40
RAOFBecause they've bought a 64bit capable chip, and they're gonna use a 64bit distro on it, damnit!10:40
ajmitchbecause amd64 is ZOMG FASTEST10:41
ajmitchStevenK: odd, I can, running it windowed10:41
=== StevenK is running it full screen
RAOFI can, running it fullscreen.10:42
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RAOFAlso with wine 0.9.4210:42
ajmitchI like having easy access to a browser & irc :)10:42
vilI am slightly confused by the freeze dead-lines10:42
ajmitchvil: that's ok, they're there to confuse people10:43
StevenKajmitch: That appeals. Running it 1024x768 windowed sounds nice.10:43
vilcan someone pls tell me, when is the last date to upload a completely new package, which does not exist even in debian?10:43
ajmitchStevenK: yeah, though 1280x1024 for me10:43
ajmitchvil: new packages freeze, aug 3010:43
StevenKajmitch: Heh, my desktop is only 1280x1024.10:44
vilsilly me again10:44
vilhow could I overlook that one?10:44
vilajmitch thanks10:44
ajmitchthe freeze for new packages is later because new packages are less likely to affect the stability of universe10:44
ajmitchStevenK: yes, I used to have a 3200x1200 desktop, so having it in a window was rather nice10:45
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vilajmitch, I thought that it is UpstreamVersionFreeze, anyway ...10:45
FujitsuAren't Debian maintainers meant to include NMUs in their changelogs?10:45
ajmitchdual-core means I can still build ubuntu packages in the background :)10:45
RAOFYes?10:45
RAOFajmitch: That's an excellent point.10:46
RAOFAlthough I've got a buildd for that purpose :)10:46
StevenKFujitsu: They don't have to, it's a nice-to-have10:47
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ajmitchhello jml10:51
jmlajmitch: hi10:51
jmlI'm about to try to figure out how to get linux talking to my shiny new monitor from my macbook.10:51
jmlbut I'm not going to ask for help here, because that would be naughty ;)10:52
StevenKajmitch: Realm Nagrand, by the way10:52
jmlpsh.10:53
=== Fujitsu wonders if 26 RC bugs is enough for the day.
jmlFrostmourne ftw.10:53
ajmitchStevenK: ah right, I'm on khaz'goroth10:53
ajmitchFujitsu: no10:53
jmlajmitch: me too.10:53
=== Fujitsu keeps going then.
RAOFSee?  Everyone should be on Frostmourne.10:53
ajmitchjml: oh?10:53
jmlajmitch: Mandalon on Khaz'goroth.10:53
jml*monitor on linux* go go go10:54
ajmitchFujitsu: thanks for tackling those :)10:54
ajmitchjml: ah, horde..10:54
jmlajmitch: of course.10:54
jmlajmitch: the alliance have no honor.10:55
Fujitsuajmitch: 'tis all I can do.10:55
ajmitchand the horde no talent, so it balances?10:55
ajmitchnot that we're at all off-topic here :)10:56
ajmitchsince we all play it on wine, I presume10:56
RAOFNot jml.10:56
ajmitchoh dear10:56
jmlajmitch: OS X actually.10:56
ajmitchthe shame10:56
RAOFHe has an OS X install, the fool.10:56
jmlRAOF: the fool who wants to get firmware updates.10:57
=== RAOF pities the foo :P
ajmitchjml: ubuntu is good for you10:57
jmlalthough, actually I can't because I deleted a whole bunch of stuff to fit wow into my tiny tiny OS X partition.10:57
jmlajmitch: I <3 ubuntu.10:57
ajmitchaddict10:57
jmlajmitch: I just don't use it to play wow.10:57
jmlalso,10:57
jmlI have this ubuntu install that doesn't let me use my shiny new monitor :P10:57
ajmitchfix it!10:58
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jmlhuh, the gentoo guys seem to have a patch.10:58
RAOFFor what?10:58
jmli810switch10:58
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=== Fujitsu hugs -intel + randr1.2
jmlit doesn't recognize my PCI id10:58
RAOFIsn't the -intel driver meant to be your friend.10:58
=== ajmitch should install the new intel driver on the laptop
jmlRAOF: friend how?10:59
ajmitchif it's not already on there10:59
RAOFjml: As in doing xrandr 1.2, AKA "multimonitor just works"10:59
RAOFAlthough I'm not sure how much that works on Feisty, of course :P10:59
jmlServer reports RandR version 1.110:59
FujitsuBah, Feisty is prehistoric.11:00
RAOFjml: And that's with the -intel rather than -i810 driver?11:00
ajmitchfeisty is so 3 months ago11:00
jmlRAOF: no, that's with the i810. I'll try -intel11:00
RAOFYeah.  I think I mentioned the -intel driver before?  Maybe.11:00
FujitsuOnly Gutsy's Xorg supports 1.211:00
jmlRAOF: and I tried it before11:00
jmlbut no joy.11:00
jmlI'll try again.11:00
RAOFAh, of course.  Gutsy fixes it :P11:00
jmlI'm not installing gutsy on my laptop until I get a backup system.11:01
=== RAOF mocks the canonnical policy of running latest stable Ubuntu on work machines!
jmlRAOF: we run beta, actually.11:01
RAOFBut that's so far away!  We're not even at freeze yet!11:02
jmlRAOF: this is the jml policy of "I fix Launchapd, other people chase down packaging bugs"11:02
ajmitcheveryone needs a friendly launchpad hacker to harass, right?11:02
=== jml restarts X
RAOFSo, I'd like the "One click installer" thread to die, and I thought I'd achieve this by teaching software-properties about GPG keys, since it already knows about sources.list files.11:03
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StevenKDamn it, WoW, stop demanding to be fullscreen!11:04
ajmitchStevenK: you may need to use winecfg11:04
StevenKEmulate a virual desktop?11:05
RAOFMy current thinking is to have a simple [repo-key] <inline GPG key> [repositories]  format, and parsing that.  Comments?11:05
jmlOK. That gives me mirroring.11:05
ajmitchRAOF: talk to glatzor first11:05
RAOFajmitch: He's doing something similar?  Cool.11:05
jmlRAOF: server still reports 1.111:05
RAOFYeah, sorry.  Apparently that's Gutsy only.11:06
StevenKRAOF: Okay, fixed the focus bug. If I don't let the window manager control the windows, it doesn't give keyboard focus.11:06
highvoltagesome could even do with two!11:07
jmlOK. So, next steps: figure out mirroring, figure out how to configure res on new monitor, figure out if there's an easy way to switch between mirrored and dual-head.11:08
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StevenKNeat. WoW silences the music if I shade it.11:10
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StevenKHrm. Seeing the lack of cash I have without going to a vendor would be nice.11:11
jmlStevenK: open your primary bag11:12
jml'b' by default11:12
jmlok, so I think I've got an on-topic-ish sort of question.11:13
ajmitchuh oh11:13
jmlI have a patch for i810switch, I've apt-get source'd the package and am about to apply the patch.11:13
jmlhow do I go from there to a .deb that I can install?11:13
ajmitchadd an entry in debian/changelog11:13
ajmitchdebuild11:13
StevenKjml: Ah, right. Hiding down the bottom of the bag in plain sight.11:14
jmlinstall devscripts for debuild, or should I get something else?11:14
StevenKjml: Thanks. :-)11:14
ajmitchdevscripts has it11:15
jmlStevenK: any time you need help with something obvious, you'll know who to call ;)11:15
StevenKjml: :-)11:15
RAOFjml: To add a changelog entry, you want "dch -i"11:15
=== ajmitch never uses dch :)
StevenKjml: Depending on which release you want to build for, you may need pbuilder or sbuild.11:15
RAOFReally?  What do you use?11:15
StevenKOr hit up RAOF for access to his buildd.11:15
=== StevenK uses either dch or debian-changelog-mode.
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jmlmy editor has abilities, I'm sure I'll manage11:16
RAOFjml: If you're targetting Gutsy, you're welcome to build on my buildd :)11:16
jmlRAOF: I'm targetting jml's laptop.11:16
RAOFHeh.11:16
RAOFOk.11:16
jmlRAOF: if this works, I'll investigate forwarding the patch on.11:17
AmaranthRAOF: hey11:19
siretartFujitsu: hm, I would need to adjust the DNS. do you expect the downtime longer?11:19
RAOFAmaranth: Ho!11:19
AmaranthRAOF: do you remember what the advantage to not reparenting in compiz was supposed to be? :)11:19
RAOFNo, I don't :)11:20
AmaranthRAOF: I thought it was so you could do alpha in the decoration even if the app didn't support it11:20
RAOFMaybe?  I think I knew at some point, or at least had it mentioned in my presence, but no longer :)11:20
AmaranthRAOF: But kwin reparents and can still do alpha, it just uses twice the pixmap memory because X makes a copy of the pixmap for the window manager to use11:20
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jmlwow, that almost worked.11:22
RAOFHeh.11:22
=== jml tries the i810 driver again.
jmlbrb11:23
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jmlweird.11:25
FujitsuOh, lovely, all servers but tiber have been recovered.11:25
whiteFujitsu: 22nd of sept ;)11:25
siretartFujitsu: did they keep the same ip?11:26
jmlThis page refers to an i810 manpage, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo11:26
siretartFujitsu: are they still hosted at serverpronto at all?11:26
jmlwhat actual manpage might it be referring to?11:27
StevenKFujitsu: Maybe the canonical sysadmins took one look at tiber at said "Uh huh. Like that's getting turned on again." :-P11:27
elkbuntusiretart, no11:27
RAOFjml: Have you tried "man i810"?11:27
Fujitsusiretart: It will have a different IP, and will probably move into the DC. See Jono's latest email to loco-contacts ML, and maybe poke somebody to work out what's happening.11:27
siretartelkbuntu: Fujitsu: then it is very likely that tiber is up as well, and just needs the dns adjusted, which I'd love to do11:28
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Fujitsusiretart: No, tiber hasn't been recovered yet.11:28
siretartFujitsu: sorry? what mail of jono?11:28
Fujitsusiretart: On the loco-contacts mailing list.11:28
siretartFujitsu: I'm not subscribed on that list11:28
siretartFujitsu: can you send me a link to the archive?11:29
siretarthttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-August/001510.html11:29
siretartthat one?11:29
FujitsuThat's the one, I believe.11:30
ajmitchhey siretart11:31
siretartI wans't even aware that tiber is one of the loco servers. nor that the loco teams do have sponsored servers as well11:31
=== Fujitsu finds it a little unlikely that tiber was compromised, given the general technical competency of its users.
siretart(well, I think I read the latter somewhere on irc, but not a definitive announcement or something)11:32
Fujitsusiretart: It's not a LoCo server, but it's categorised as one of the LoCo set.11:32
siretarthi ajmitch!11:32
siretartFujitsu: ah, I see11:32
FujitsuI think ubuntu-doc might also have one, but otherwise it's all LoCos.11:32
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siretartFujitsu: well, I assume that elmo will contact me as soon as he knows more about tiber's status11:34
Fujitsusiretart: Does he know you run it and all?11:34
siretartfor the 'sorry I'm down page', I'd happily repoint the dns of tauware.de to somehwere else,11:34
siretartI'd need to setup a vhost or something here, I'd need ot do that tonight11:35
jmlRAOF: I did, but it didn't work. Turns out I actually need to have xserver-xorg-video-i810 installed for it to work.11:35
siretartFujitsu: he apologized for not emailing me about tiber's downtime. so I'd assume yes11:35
siretartthat was on irc11:35
Fujitsusiretart: Ah, good. I did complain to newz2000 that nobody had been notified.11:35
siretartok, need to visit my familiy now, see you tonight!11:35
FujitsuBye!11:35
RAOFjml: How were you using the -i810 driver without that package installed???11:36
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jmlRAOF: I wasn't.11:38
RAOFAh.  You were using -intel?  Or vesa?11:38
jmlRAOF: was using -intel.11:38
RAOFAh.11:38
jmlStill am using -intel, but now have -i810 installed.11:38
RAOFHeh.11:38
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jmlis there an easy way to figure out the modeline & related fu for my external monitor?11:40
RAOFThere's an online modeline generator, but unless intel cards are annoyingly crap you won't need it.11:41
jmlso I should need to specify refresh rates or anything?11:43
RAOFNo11:43
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jmlback when I was a lad, we used to run xconfig or something like that11:44
RAOFYou may want to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but I don't think that does Xinerama.11:44
RAOFDamnit, gutsy is full of tools for you11:45
RAOFDisplayconfig-gtk, for example.11:45
jmllike I said, once I get a backup box, I'll think about upgrading.11:45
RAOFYeah.11:45
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ajmitchgood to hear about the SCO vs Novell ruling12:26
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Fujitsuajmitch: Old news, but very good.12:26
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ajmitchsure, but I don't keep up with the news on the minute it happens :)12:27
FujitsuI found out about 13 hours ago, so it's not really recent.12:27
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Amaranthso ha! :P12:28
Fujitsuman-di: Novell has been found to be the copyright owner of UNIX(Ware), so SCO v. IBM is invalid.12:28
AmaranthAnd SCO owes Novell a crapload of money from the Microsoft and Sun deals12:29
FujitsuJust a bit.12:29
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FujitsuSupposedly more than their net worth.12:29
AmaranthThe legalese for 'stealing' was in there more than once :)12:29
jmlhmm12:29
Fujitsu`conversion'12:29
Amaranthright, that was the word12:29
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jmlSeems that the best I can do is get the external display twinning with the laptop at the laptop's res :(12:30
AmaranthFujitsu: it'll go up, of course12:30
jmli.e. the default with xserver-xorg-video-intel12:30
FujitsuAmaranth: It seems to have a habit of that.12:30
jml1280x800 at 22" is pretty darn big.12:30
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jmlthanks for the help guys.12:31
norsettomorning12:32
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ajmitchFujitsu: you mean to sew how long before it's delisted?12:34
Fujitsuajmitch: Something like that.12:34
RainCThi12:35
man-diWow, not really surprising but good12:35
gesernorsetto: re bug #129301: amd64 is the only arch where gtk2hs 0.9.12 builds successfully :(12:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129301 in gtk2hs "[FTBFS]  gtk2hs fails to build on Gutsy (amd64) (dup-of: 129277)" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12930112:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129277 in gtk2hs "[Sync request]  gtk2hs (0.9.11-2) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12927712:44
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norsettogeser: that the one I indeed tested12:47
norsettogeser: but I also wrote in the bug report that this should have been on hold12:48
norsettogeser: I suggested to wait for 0.9.1212:51
norsettogeser: sorry, I just noticed you are indeed talking about 0.9.1212:52
geserI uploaded gtk2hs 0.9.12-0ubuntu1 yesterday once I tested if it builds (on amd64) to fix the unmet deps for it12:52
norsettogeser: yes, I tested that on amd64 and was ok12:53
geserme too12:53
geseramd64 is ok, but it FTBFS on the other archs (but now with a different error as 0.9.11)12:54
norsettogeser: strange error, I wonder if CUint is long12:56
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white!info unicon gutsy01:46
ubotuPackage unicon does not exist in gutsy01:46
Fujitsuunison, you mean?01:46
white!info unicon-imc2 gutsy01:46
ubotuunicon-imc2: Chinese Input Method Library. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.4-12 (gutsy), package size 4058 kB, installed size 10068 kB01:46
FujitsuOh.01:46
whiteFujitsu: teach him source packages ;)01:46
FujitsuI must convince Seveas to make it learn about sources.01:47
whitebut unicon looks good :)01:47
white!info fireflier gutsy01:47
ubotuPackage fireflier does not exist in gutsy01:47
whitebrr01:48
white!info fireflier-server gutsy01:48
ubotufireflier-server: Interactive firewall rule creation tool - server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 45 kB, installed size 196 kB01:48
whitethat is a strange version number01:48
FujitsuWhy?01:49
Fujitsu!info fireflier-server sid01:49
ubotufireflier-server: Interactive firewall rule creation tool - server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.7-3 (sid), package size 44 kB, installed size 128 kB01:49
Fujitsuwhite: It was turned into a native package in Debian for a while.01:50
whitewell the 1.1.7 version should have the security patch01:50
FujitsuYes, it has that fix.01:50
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FujitsuHi Hobbsee.01:52
geserHi Hobbsee01:54
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Hobbseeheya Fujitsu, geser01:55
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stgraberAny pygtk pro around ? I'm having a nice python crash (real crash, not syntax one) with Pixbuf in treeview when hovering them (no event set for hovering) ?02:55
stgraberAny known issue with python 2.5 and pygtk treeview ?02:56
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pgquilesI have a package which needs Internet access to download some files when running dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot. Is that OK of should I tweak the build system to have everything locally?03:05
Fujitsupgquiles: There is no Internet access on the buildds. Everything must be local.03:06
geseranother reason to have the files locally is that the build can be reproduced03:07
pgquilesFujitsu: that's going to require a lot of tweaking :-/03:07
pgquilesso, should I create a mypackage-builddepends.deb package with the dependencies?03:08
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brooniepgquiles: What is it downloading?03:13
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pgquilesbroonie: a few .jar files from sourceforge.net03:16
pgquilesbroonie: https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~pgquiles/+archive/+build/34889603:17
pgquileshttps://dogfood.launchpad.net/+builds/rubidium03:17
pgquilesthose .jar are only useful when building some apache stuff03:18
pgquilesit also downloads its own version of libcppunit, apr, etc03:18
Fujitsu Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww.03:19
pgquilesit's part of the log4cxx build system :-/03:19
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pgquiles:-D03:19
broonieUm. Yeah.03:19
pgquileswithout an Internet connection in the build farm, I'd essentially need to rewrite the whole buildsystem for the software03:20
FujitsuIMO, you should leave it alone, complain to upstream, and attempt to package it again when they use a vaguely sane build system.03:20
broonieIndependantly of the needs of the buildds that doesn't sound like a bad idea.03:20
FujitsuDownloading private copies of various libraries is completely wrong.03:20
pgquilesupstream is uttely insane03:20
pgquilesthey have not published a new version in 4 years03:21
broonieIf they really need their forked versions at build time they should be shipping them in the distribution.03:21
FujitsuGet upstream to fix it.03:21
FujitsuIf they really need their forked versions, they should probably fix themselves so they don't need their forked versions.03:21
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pgquilesthey are not using forked versions03:21
pgquilesit's just they build the latest version to check everything is OK without requiring those packages to be installed in the system03:22
pgquileswhich is very comfortable when you build log4cxx from sources yourself, but it's very inconvenient when trying to package the stuff03:22
FujitsuWell, I am off to bed to cry myself to sleep about this crazy upstream.03:22
broonieThis sounds like a variation on the problem with upstreams including copies of zlib, then?03:23
pgquilesnot exactly because these people are not including a copy of the cppunit, apr, etc but downloading them from sourceforge and apache.org03:23
pgquilesit they were including their own copy, I'd have no problem03:24
FujitsuI would have a problem.03:24
broonieYes, but ignoring the crack with downloading it's the same problem.03:24
broonieNo, including and using a local copy is still a problem.03:24
pgquilesI'm sending them an e-mail, let's wait for an answer03:25
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broonieAsk your favourite security team member (they don't like having to do security fixes for $BIGNUM packages all with their own copy of $LIBRARY)03:25
broonieIdeally they should be able to use copies of this stuff that are already installed on the system and only fall back to their own copies (whereever they are) if they can't find one already installed.03:26
pgquileswell, that'd be OK for apr, libcppunit, etc03:28
pgquilesI'd still need to provide packaged versions of ant-contrib and cpptasks, though03:29
pgquileswhich is OK, anyway03:29
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bddebianHeya gang03:54
pygihey ho bddebian03:54
bddebianHi pygi03:55
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geserHi bddebian04:00
bddebianHeya geser04:02
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ScottKHobbsee: Cool.  I knew about metapackage install recommends, but I didn't know they'd already been changed.  Thanks.04:48
HobbseeScottK: yeah, mvo fixed that bug, as i kept bugging him :)04:50
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ScottKCool.04:54
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norsettoScottK: can we have a word about bug 131670?05:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 131670 in poker-network "Please merge poker-network-1.1.1-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13167005:57
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pygibddebian, poke06:30
bddebianpygi: peek06:35
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pygibddebian, mind looking at my second patch? :)06:35
bddebianpygi: For what?06:35
pygibddebian, flashplugin-nonfree06:35
pygisince you uploaded the first :p06:36
bddebianpygi: Building now :-)06:37
pygibddebian, yay, danke =)06:37
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pygibddebian, thank you ;)06:53
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bddebianpygi: No, THank You! :-)06:57
pygibddebian, you are now officially tagged as the person to upload couple of next patches xD06:57
Nafallomaking flash work on amd64? :-)06:57
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pygiNafallo, that works with swfdec afaik?07:03
pygiNafallo, or did I miss something? :)07:03
pygiNafallo, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/swfdec0.4/0.4.5-2 ^_^07:03
Nafallono idea07:03
pygiwell, my package there :)07:04
NafalloI'll not even attempt to look at webpages before my ISP has fixed themselves07:05
pygixD07:05
pygiNafallo, ok, then lemme just say *it works*(tm)07:05
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Nafallohehe, oki :-)07:07
Nafallokewl07:07
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justinwrayWhat is the policy on packages that come with an SVN update mechanism? (Namely to download new modules/plug-ins -- but also updates the application is self as well)07:21
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asantonipoke poke poke07:22
pygiNafallo, and starting next week, fullscreen will work on youtube as well if that's important to you :P07:22
asantonihttp://mixxx.sourceforge.net/packages/ ---> Mixxx 1.5.2 package needs reviewing07:23
pygiNafallo, although a bit slow, ergh ... damn X & cairo :-/07:29
Nafallohehe. running x86 now anyway. wanted tickless.07:30
Nafalloand tickless is broken on Turion :-P07:30
pygiNafallo, still, you should rather run free flash :)07:31
norsettoNafallo: just had a look at the Mono is Microsoft technology bug :-)07:32
Nafallonorsetto: anything new since my answer? :-)07:34
norsettoNafallo: yeah, he was still arguing .... some people are amazing07:34
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norsettoNafallo: like the guy that posted a bug because he could not run Halo on Linux ;-)07:35
Nafallo:-P07:35
Nafallohe argued on #ubuntu-bugs yesterday :-P07:35
norsettoNafallo: Halo or Mono?07:35
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NafalloMono07:37
norsettotoo bad I missed that one07:37
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justinwraynorsetto:  What is the policy on packages that come with an SVN update mechanism? (Namely to download new modules/plug-ins -- but also updates the application is self as well)07:48
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jlduggeri donno if this is the right place to bring this up, but the Ubuntu packaging guide is sorta broke =/07:56
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norsettojustinwray: what do you mean by policy?07:59
justinwray`awaynorsetto: linda/lintian give a large amount of errors due to the SVN files etc.07:59
norsettojustinwray`away: ok, you can use the -i and -I flags to discard those08:00
justinwray`awaynorsetto: Ah, okay.  So it is fine if any application has its own update mechanism, outside of the standard apt-get update? (Like firefox?)08:01
norsettojustinwray`away: for instance add this to your ~/.devscripts file: DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS="-i -ICVS -I.svn"08:02
norsettojustinwray`away: sorry, wife is calling for dinner (never let a lady wait :-))08:03
pygijldugger, you are free to submit bugs and diffs with fixes08:03
justinwray`awaynorsetto: Not a problem, I am head to my girlfriends to pick her up...so, I'll catch up with you later.08:03
justinwray`awayThanks again08:03
norsettojustinwray`away: np08:03
jlduggerpygi: the thing is, it's the hello world package ;) i might not be the right person to be fixing it08:05
pygijldugger, :D08:05
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bddebianHmm, I wonder why libodbc++ is currently not built with threads??08:15
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asantoni1) Mixxx 1.5.2 package still needs review: http://mixxx.sourceforge.net/packages/08:26
asantoni2) Did the UVF date get pushed back because of REVU being down?08:26
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jeromeghello10:08
jeromegi'm fixing a typo error in apturl description, the current version is 0.0+bzr20070709, what should the new version be ?10:08
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jeromeganyone please?10:13
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geser0.0+bzr20070709ubuntu110:24
jeromegthx10:25
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Lutingeser: even if it's an ubuntu-only package ?10:26
geserthen no10:28
geserI'd probably use 0.0+bzr20070709.1 in that case10:28
jeromegmaybe it should be fixed in the bzr branch, as mr_pouit says10:29
geseryes10:29
jeromegok then I will let it to the maintainers10:30
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K0brikyo brothers! What's that mDNS thing doing?10:41
mr_pouitmmh, any ETA for a fix for hal in the buildds? I have several packages waiting for a give-back (FTBFS because hal fails to install)10:42
K0brik*it seems to be talking with the internet for some reason10:43
K0brikit's calling 224.0.0.251.5353 every now and then10:44
jeromeganyone here to test my update of dvgrab ? (camera needed)10:45
jeromegpackage + source : http://vv.guelf.free.fr/ubuntu/10:46
K0brikcan I safely exclude it from the init.d without ruining any built-in service(s)?10:47
man-di_K0brik: thats a local broadcast address for zeroconf10:48
man-di_K0brik: but this is not the channel to discuss this10:48
K0brikman-di_: do I need it?10:48
man-di_K0brik: I dont know your network10:48
K0brikman-di_: what would I use it for?10:49
man-di_K0brik: google for zeroconf for more infos10:49
K0brikman-di_: I'm not breaking "your" fine system when I'm excluding it?10:50
man-di_K0brik: ????10:50
K0brikman-di_: I've just installed ubuntu and noone on #ubuntu can answer what services I'd ever use it for10:51
man-di_I would go with the rule, if you dont know, disable it10:51
K0brikman-di_: and I'm quite irritated about strange firefox requests at the same time lol10:52
man-di_its mainly for zeroconf networks10:52
K0brikupdate-init.d or something10:52
K0brikman-di_: aren't rhythmbox using for shared films and such?10:53
man-di_K0brik: if you tell it to do so, not by default10:53
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K0brikoh. now I see. I better stick with my own protocol lol10:56
K0brikthanks for the help!10:56
K0brikit's the avahi-daemon, right?10:58
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bddebianHeya12:11
pygihey bddebian, pm pls?12:12

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