=== Starting logfile irclogs/xubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #xubuntu === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get === Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007 === NikonRaccoon is going nuts trying to figure out how to disable the screenlock on her laptop every time she closes the lid. She found that disabling the xscreensaver does the job, but it always comes back, and editing the .xscreensaver file in her home dir to have lock=false doesn't seem to have worked. === ytripppy [i=polarisx@c210-49-97-52.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [07:01] (BFTD/#xubuntu) NikonRaccoon uninstall it then === NikonRaccoon blushes. "I went to, but apt wanted to uninstall the xubuntu-desktop too." [07:02] do you use the screensaver [07:02] thats fine [07:02] Nope, not at all Jester. [07:02] its a meta package [07:03] also [07:03] So saying yes will not break things? [07:03] remove xscreensaver-data [07:03] :P [07:03] no all it does it depend on this so you can install xubuntu from a ubuntu server install === NikonRaccoon appolgizes. Is a Linux newbie. Is learning by practice. [07:04] so you dont have to apt-get install all the xfce pakages you just install that one and auto install the ones you really want [07:04] !info xubuntu-desktop [07:04] xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.29 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:04] only 40kb not much can be that important and that small [07:05] its one of the first things people worrie about is that [07:05] Ok, I'll give that a shot then. [07:05] NikonRaccoon if anything goes wrong...IT WASN"T MY FAULT!! [07:06] BFTD, dont scare him like that [07:06] I'll just blame Jester there. [07:06] o sorry your a girl [07:06] kinda used to guys === NikonRaccoon meeps and blushes [07:07] if something is wrong i will fix [07:07] Well, no screen lock when I closed the lid. [07:08] and BFTD did you ever get a domain or want me to switch your ~ address to it [07:08] Jester45 you gave me the wrong IP [07:08] There's a bit of a guide to customizing lid events here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121720 [07:08] Jester45: apt-get remove --purge [07:09] NikonRaccoon haha, you're a girl? We don't get many of those here!! [07:09] Pumpernickel, i allready removed them [07:09] BFTD, calm down === BFTD calms down [07:10] ok, now what? [07:10] are you sure [07:10] ? [07:10] the ip [07:10] we should move this to offtopic [07:10] Are girl geeks that unusual? [07:10] oh [07:10] yeah [07:10] yea pretty much [07:11] or at least they dont say so [07:11] it locates to the wrong site [07:11] Not particularly, but enough that there's an Ubuntu-women group, irc channel, wiki, and so forth. [07:11] i know a few that use it to get more help [07:11] NikonRaccoon NO! Just really awesome [07:11] BFTD, does it go to the normal vidd.us one? [07:12] Jester45 no it goes to the weasel one [07:12] Pumpernickel, but thats being for ubuntu its kinda popular what % do you think are girls [07:12] Oh, and thank you so much for the advice. I've been googleing for hours, with no luck. Everything I came across was how to install xscreensaver, not remove or disable it. [07:12] (of the whole community ) [07:13] .2% are girls [07:13] yea... not to common [07:13] I counted [07:14] there is about 40 [07:14] out of about 6000 [07:15] but... how about forum members [07:15] not sure [07:15] wanna count those? [07:15] its hard to tell [07:15] so NikonRaccoon you see how special you are?! === NikonRaccoon blushes... "After useing windows for over 10 years, vista scared me enough to switch. So far, I'm liking Kubuntu and Xubuntu. Still some programs I need windows for, but I rarely use them. [07:16] like? wine might help [07:17] NikonRaccoon yes please tell us [07:17] I've tried Wine. What I need is something like Acrobat Pro, to save fillable forms, like Taxes and the like. Also I'm needing a mapping program such as Streets and Trips or Street atlas. [07:18] And I still haven't been successful in hotsyncing my palm pilot. [07:18] Well [07:18] google earth works fine on linux without any help [07:18] and Acrobat is installable [07:18] linux for that is [07:18] the 2 biggest problems with linux to me are games and compatibility [07:19] you'll need to do it via (off the record) Automatix though [07:19] doesn't like this laptop. It's a p3-650 with only 320mb of ram, and an 8mb ATI Rage card..... [07:19] hrm [07:20] Actually, I had Kubuntu on here, but it was a bit too much. The laptop likes xfce alot better. [07:20] games because you can play in wine (some) but its slower and they arent generaly made for linux unless its opensource and the compatibility will hopefully come as more hardware manufacures notice that lots of poeple use linux and would use their hardware more if they simply gave a driver [07:20] BFTD: Please don't recommend Automatix, ever. [07:20] BFTD, i agree with Pumpernickel [07:20] I agree with you to [07:20] its 2nd to MS [07:20] but its the only solution [07:21] for what [07:21] It's not a solution. [07:21] It's a problem and a half, by itself. [07:21] temporary fix [07:21] It's not even a fix. [07:21] ok whatever [07:21] I never used it [07:21] Adobe did make a reader for Linux... maybe they'll make pro for it to.... === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d37-112.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:21] ? === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d37-112.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:22] hehe mixing nano search and xchat isnt good === BFTD makes a not to never have anything to do with automatix === Jester45 pressed ctrl w [07:22] Acroread is available from multiverse. [07:23] funny [07:23] I've heard so many good things about it though [07:23] Already installed. None of the other pdf viewers and editors seemed to be able to handle fillable forms. [07:23] But I can't save. [07:23] ? [07:24] [07:24] does it say anything [07:25] yeah, it gives me a warning message that only pro can save, not the reader [07:25] oh [07:25] :/ [07:25] ok [07:25] going to bed [07:25] I can't keep my eyes open anymore [07:26] night all [07:26] Goodnight, and thanks [07:26] no problem === Jester45 is still here === NikonRaccoon blushes... "I may just see if I can figure out openrpg and use that instead. All I used acrobat for was tax forms, and my character sheets. [07:28] any reason the xubuntu install disc is staying on the home screen [07:28] with loading at the top [07:28] it has been like 2 minutes [07:29] BigMac, is the disc spining? [07:29] NikonRaccoon, you blush alot [07:29] It sounds so [07:29] Sorry. I'm a bit shy. [07:29] BigMac, try shuting down and running the check cd from the first menu [07:30] NikonRaccoon, so am i... when im around people [07:31] i have 3 personalties jester45(online) ryan around people he doesnt know(shy) and around friends im pretty loud === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:35] Eh it could just be that this pc doesn't support ubuntu [07:35] kubuntu isn't running either [07:35] i dont think so [07:35] there were no cd defects [07:36] try running the cd check if its good try doing the advance boot with the optino acpi=off [07:36] sorry if im a bit rusty on the names i havent used a install cd in abouy a year [07:38] O, it was working I guess, just took a while === NikonRaccoon needs to head to bed... another lovely day at work tomorrow. === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-71-198-40-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-71-198-40-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === WaltzingAlong [n=krugerk@h75-100-215-11.75-100.unk.tds.net] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-71-198-40-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:08] hmm anyone know why #ubuntu is being wierd? [08:08] ive done everything its told me to do [08:08] but i still can't get back in [08:10] im having issues with pyneighborhood, but xsmbrowser works fine [08:10] anyone know why? :X [08:11] is there a difference between how xsmbrowser mounts samba shares vs. pYNeighborhood? [08:13] also, does anyone know shortcuts for xubuntu or how to config them? im finding the shortcuts that used to work in ubuntu no longer work here... [08:17] what shortcuts === cjae [n=cjae@142-165-37-205.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@80-235-62-155-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu [08:31] how do I make update notifier actually work === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:37] I mean in software sources I have checked look for updates every two days and notify me but it never does === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d37-112.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:29] cjae: go to synaptick settings, and then check to make sure it notifies you daily of updates [09:29] synaptic* [09:30] jester45: shotcut keys :D [09:30] jester45: like how to lock your session, shortcut for terminal, etc === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-207-8.static.adam.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [09:51] can someone help me please, I'm a little bit lost. I want to access the other computer in the house. both computers are plugged in to a switch, which has a smoothwall installaton in between them and the net, I have given both computers a static ip address. now, what do I have to do to access on from the other [09:52] homebrewcider: what do you mean by "access"? [09:53] share files across and the like [09:54] homebrewcider: you can install an ftp server and use some ftp client to copy files, for example [09:54] homebrewcider: or mount a directory from one of them on the other using sshfs [09:54] homebrewcider: or, if it's just single files, you can copy them with scp [09:54] mounting the directory would seem like the go [09:55] which would be the easiest? [09:56] for a newbie === Lunis [n=Lunis@74.197.83.214] has joined #xubuntu [10:01] homebrewcider: hard to say, you could also go the windows way and set up samba shares... [10:01] ick windows [10:01] I've been hearing nfs [10:01] ? [10:02] ah, nfs is a possibility too in a local network [10:02] homebrewcider: there is a howto for sshfs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=430312 [10:04] homebrewcider: forums ans wiki are generally a very good source of howtos [10:04] says requirement is feisty, other pc is dapper [10:05] homebrewcider: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218630 [10:06] !nfs [10:06] nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. [10:06] ok, I'm checking that one out === vistakiller [n=spiros@62.1.172.232] has joined #xubuntu [10:39] no, I'm completely lost [10:43] homebrewcider: maybe you could check the 'system->shared folders' menu? [10:45] yep, shared already [10:47] one question on that, in the allowed hosts section i put the ip of this comp or the other one? [10:51] homebrewcider: the other one [10:51] homebrewcider: you put there the computers you want to allow to acces your files [10:58] that's wahat i always thought and what i'd already done === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:10] test [11:11] failed [11:15] some reason all my video media has failed [11:15] wmv, mpg, avi [11:15] it opens with any program looks like its working [11:15] !wmv [11:15] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [11:15] but window is black [11:15] Catoptromancy_: no codecs? [11:16] heh I have all the codec [11:16] they alll worked before [11:16] even divx [11:16] now they dont [11:16] Catoptromancy_: what did you change? [11:16] i dont know! [11:16] lol [11:16] Catoptromancy_: you're a sleepwalker? [11:16] ? [11:17] i kinda feel like it right now [11:17] Catoptromancy_: you hack on your computer while asleep and don't remember anything the next day? ;) [11:17] im not sure i did anything really [11:17] I think something I apttitudeed might have got in the way === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-207-8.static.adam.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.163.99] has joined #xubuntu [11:20] aware of any packages that might cause all the video formats to stop working? [11:20] ill sift through synaptic i guess [11:20] Catoptromancy_: are you useing the same video player you used before? [11:20] yes [11:21] Catoptromancy_: maybe you installed soem new one and it took over the file types [11:21] Catoptromancy_: which player is that? [11:21] ive tried new players [11:21] xfmedia was main player [11:22] Catoptromancy_: then you need libxine-extracodecs installed [11:22] im sure i already have it [11:22] Catoptromancy_: and probably also w32codecs from seveas's repository [11:22] yes [11:22] heh [11:22] ive had all those before [11:23] i guess maybe they got removed [11:23] Catoptromancy_: maybe you installed somehting that conflicted with them, so they were uninstalled in the process? [11:23] Catoptromancy_: it always asks you for confirmation though [11:23] ya [11:24] im removing all my audio programs [11:24] and starting over [11:24] only player that plays MP3s is alsaplayer [11:24] some reason those got broken too [11:25] Catoptromancy_: check your volume ;) [11:25] no lol its not that easy [11:25] wmv plays just screen is black, but i can hear whats going on [11:26] mpg just shows black screen, but time slider wont move [11:26] sounds like missing codecs [11:26] ya i know [11:26] but i have like every codec [11:26] heh [11:26] or "had" === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.163.99] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p2154-ipbf3204marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu [11:32] hmmmm [11:32] ill build xine from source [11:32] compiling usually fixes something === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@53.Red-81-38-140.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:34] Catoptromancy_: probably bad idea :) [11:35] at least compiling gives me error messages so i know what im missing [11:35] Catoptromancy_: you can also run the player form terminal, it will print messages [11:35] the catalog.cache points to a bunch of .so files [11:36] (xfmedia:6158): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_detach: assertion `style->attach_count > 0' failed [11:36] heh [11:37] xfmedia is buggy [11:37] use gxine or something [11:37] but it worked perfectly before [11:37] gxine crashed more than it worked for me [11:38] xfmedia has never given me one problem till this happened [11:38] and it happened on all players [11:38] cept alsaplayer [11:40] do you have these packages installed? extracodecs and all? [11:40] it worked before [11:40] everything [11:40] unless i managed to uninstall them [11:41] i guess its synaptic time [11:43] would gstreamers stop libxine-extracodedcs from working? [11:44] after all these problems i tried the gstreamers === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu [12:05] woooooo [12:05] VLC plays em all again [12:05] all my old programs still broken though === pleia2 [n=lyz@clockbot.net] has joined #xubuntu === JohanSalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #xubuntu === reaVer [n=reaver@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #xubuntu === loswilios is now known as loswillios === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p2154-ipbf3204marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #xubuntu [] === adam0509 [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu === tripppy [i=polarisx@c210-49-97-52.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === whyking [n=whyking@HSI-KBW-085-216-069-166.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #xubuntu [01:37] hi [01:37] i see xubuntu does not yet build upon edgy, right? [01:39] whyking: eh? [01:39] my question is if its at the same level as the current ubunut, 7.04? [01:39] !xubuntu [01:39] xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels [01:40] whyking: it's always the same version as ubuntu [01:40] whyking: it just has different set of default applications [01:40] ok.. I'll give it a try! [01:41] I'm tired of gentoo/sabayon and the compile madness [01:41] whyking: you will find it refreshing, but uncustomizable :) [01:42] TheSheep, what do you mean with uncustomizable? in what aspect exactly? [01:42] use-flags? [01:44] whyking: if you are accustomed to gentoo, you can be annoyed that *ubuntu have the 'preffered' set of applications, and if you venture too far beyound that, you are on your own [01:45] you mean that gentoo has more packages to choose from? [01:45] i mean.. e.g. I don't like abiword but installing openoffice should be easy as 123, right [01:45] whyking: no, but you have more control over them and you can mix and match them more easily -- this of course comes at a cost, you have to do part of the maintainers job [01:46] whyking: yes, but installing openoffice might pull in some OOo packages that you didn't really want installed, for example === jeeGr [n=jere@a84-230-208-214.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu [01:46] well.. i don't really care for that too much I guess.. my laptop machine is and oldie, so compiling takes forever [01:47] and I use xfce ever since.. so xubuntu seems like my type of cup [01:47] just have to find a cdr.. ;-) [01:47] whyking: also, ubuntu comeso ut once every 6 months, so don't expect bleeding edge versions of applications [01:48] whyking: on the other hand, they are tested pretty well [01:49] TheSheep, well.. I mean gentoo is also not really bleeding edge, but there are overlays, is there something similiar? I mean, there must be tons of ubuntu users out there wanting the hot stuff, right? [01:49] !repos [01:49] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource [01:49] whyking: there are several repositories, and you can also use some unofficial repos [01:50] yeah, that sounds nice.. is there e.g. compiz-fusion already available? [01:50] whyking: I think it's in the gutsy repos [01:50] whyking: gutsy is the next version of ubuntu, going to be released in few months [01:51] hm.. how easy is it then to upgrade? [01:52] whyking: there is a gui app for that, one click [01:52] nice [01:53] thats what bugs me with gentoo.. rebuilding world does not only take forever, it also does not work without hacking === alnokta [n=alnokta@wikimedia/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu [02:01] whyking: you *may* get some dependency problesm if you installed applications from unofficial repositories [02:01] whyking: it all depends on how well the packages are prepared [02:06] oh.. dependency issues.. damn.. i remember those from debian days [02:06] that was pretty bad back then [02:07] are there lots of issues with that? [02:08] whyking: not if you keep yourself on the beaten road [02:08] ic [02:08] whyking: then again, they are usually possible to resolve by uninstalling the conflicting package and reinstalling it after upgrade === Gabz [n=gabriel@dsl-202-173-185-172.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [02:09] well.. I'll need some not so standard python packages.. but I normally see that they are supported by ubuntu.. so there must exist something [02:10] and compiling everything opens up other problems again [02:10] does xubuntu get treated different from the other distros (*buntu) i can't find it on any of the australian mirrors (iso files) ? [02:12] TheSheep, oh, and how well are laptops supported, like suspend2? should actually be better I guess [02:14] Gabz: xubuntu is not officially supported by canonical, so there is no shipit and the mirrors are separate [02:14] whyking: I think it's all a matter of the kernel [02:15] TheSheep: i didn't think edubuntu was either.. but that explains it ... i'll just have to send file requests to the big australian mirrors [02:15] whyking: so all relatively recent distros would be similar [02:17] ic === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:20] TheSheep, I guess you wouldn't recommend using Tribe3? [02:22] I mean.. if I update xubuntu right after install I should get all the new packages/kernel etc, right? [02:25] whyking: gutsy is not ready for production use, but it works pretty well for me [02:25] !worksforme [02:25] Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ [02:26] whyking: I'd say that if you want to play and test it, it's ok, but if it's your only computer which you use to work for your living, better stay with feisty :) [02:26] TheSheep, and could I upgrade to that easily after installing 7.04? [02:27] whyking: yes [02:27] ok.. feisty it is [02:27] looking forward to it, still backing up === darrend [n=darren@81.187.95.100] has joined #xubuntu === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:33] hello [02:33] i'm triaging some xubuntu bugs [02:33] and i need help to reproduce some bugs === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:34] anyone willing to help me ? [02:34] !ask [02:34] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [02:34] bug 127372 [02:34] Launchpad bug 127372 in thunar "no thunar contextmenu with GTK setting "gtk-menu-popup-delay = 0"" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127372 [02:35] bug 115418 [02:35] Launchpad bug 115418 in thunar "Could not unmout CDROM by pressing eject button" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115418 [02:35] jeromeg: that latter is reported by me and yes, I can confirm it :) [02:35] bug 122146 (seems to be quite random) [02:35] Launchpad bug 122146 in thunar "Thunar freezes upon opening folders" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122146 [02:35] lol [02:36] TheSheep: my cd/dvd player is broken, so I need someone else to confirm [02:37] ah, no It wasn't me, I must have reported a duplicate of that [02:38] jeromeg: Failed to eject "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_2005121000029901". [02:38] jeromeg: Given device "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_2005121000029901" is not a volume or drive. [02:39] jeromeg: gutsy [02:39] ok perfect [02:39] thank you guy [02:40] jeromeg: the context menu seems to appear though :/ [02:40] ok [02:41] both with tree and shortcuts view [02:43] TheSheep: do you also have this one in Gutsy : bug 59235 [02:43] Launchpad bug 59235 in thunar "Thunar shows folder sizes wrong" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59235 [02:43] ? [02:43] the last one, I went o /usr/bin, ~2k items, with tree panel on, it loaded for about 3s but displayed the files ok [02:44] ok [02:44] jeromeg: yes, but I think that 59235 is a feature, not bug, you can see the summarized size in the properties [02:45] TheSheep: maybe but it's quite surprising [02:46] jeromeg: counting the recursive size is expensive [02:46] TheSheep: I select two folders that weight more than 5mo, and it says 2 folders (8 kb) [02:46] jeromeg: maybe it shouldn't show the size for folders [02:46] TheSheep: yep, I will report upstream, and they will decide === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.163.99] has joined #xubuntu === zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177903452.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === soweto76 [n=jack@d226-43-189.home.cgocable.net] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [03:29] !ipv6 [03:29] To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 === jeeGr [n=jere@a84-230-208-214.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === jeeGr [n=jere@a84-230-208-214.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu === bw_hb [n=bw@L600c.l.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #xubuntu === vistakille2 [n=spiros@ppp156-68.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu [04:11] hm? whats the default root pw? [04:12] !root | whyking [04:12] whyking: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo === cjae_ [n=cjae@142-165-37-205.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu [04:13] ok what is the sudo password then [04:14] whyking: your user password [04:14] are the wine repositories down? [04:14] ah.. got it [04:14] thx === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.163.99] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:26] I can't seem to find opera, why isn't it in the repository? [04:28] whyking: beacuse of its licence [04:28] whyking: you candownload a package for ubuntu from opera.com [04:30] ic its also in another repository [04:31] man.. what an epiphany.. installing takes so little time (compared to compiling it) [04:31] obvious statement of course.. but I used gentoo for many many years [04:33] whyking: well, ubuntu is designed to be used, not to be played with [04:37] lol === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d37-112.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === fooll [n=lagi@dsl-olubrasgw1-fe52fb00-149.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu === archypetro [n=bleh@85.92.163.99] has joined #xubuntu === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACCAF8D6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:07] i like it! [05:07] all the stuff I needed already done and installed [05:08] whyking, what is it ? [05:12] alnokta, what I needed? some python stuff and then some.. but I'm very new to xubuntu [05:12] alnokta: xubuntu :) [05:13] just installed a couple of hours ago [05:13] and already everything is up and running === Wolfwalker [n=sIRC@75-120-213-170.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === Akuma_ [n=martin@218.81.87.174] has joined #xubuntu [05:14] hiho TheSheep [05:14] whyking, that is what i like in it :) [05:14] TheSheep, hello! :) [05:14] When I loaded the Xubuntu live cd (version 7.04) it says it can't access ata1 [05:15] What does that mean? === Wolfwalker is the rankest of rank newbies to linux [05:15] No wait, it says it can't access tty [05:15] whyking: I think the medibuntu repos have Opera also in it [05:15] Wolfwalker: huhu [05:16] What does that mean? [05:16] Full report is /bin/sh: can't acces tty: job control turned off === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.163.99] has joined #xubuntu [05:16] Wolfwalker: this message shows when you get dropped to an emergency shell [05:16] Wolfwalker: seems like it failed to boot for some reason [05:17] Wolfwalker: check the cd first, there is an option for that in the boot menu [05:17] Yup [05:19] hyper_ch, i already got it, thx [05:19] TheSheep: how comes xfce4-menu-plug uses 60% of my memory? [05:19] whyking: the medibuntu repos offers also some other great stuff ;) [05:20] I'll have a look [05:20] distractions.. sounds like my kind of cup [05:21] I hit check cd for defects and it dropped out to the emergency shell again === michaelpo [n=mint@60.52.15.146] has joined #xubuntu [05:22] %) [05:22] Wolfwalker: is it an old computer? [05:22] Yea, verily [05:23] i've search the forum, followed the instruction, but how do i connect my ubuntu to 3G data card? [05:23] A Dell, made back when they made Dells white [05:23] hm.. will there be any performance issues if I install kdebase? [05:23] or is there a way to install kde-light or sth? [05:23] if that exists.. ;-) [05:25] there will be the performance hit of using kde === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [05:26] but only if I start an app that requires it, right? [05:27] kinda [05:28] there will be a bit more memory before you start it [05:28] but once you start it its takes the full hit [05:28] so its best to not install it I guess [05:28] then if you close it it will free a bit of the memory [05:29] if you can avoid gnome/kde apps its best [05:29] So what do I do if it is an old computer? [05:29]