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| nosrednaekim | HEY! Gutsy fixed my wireless! YAY! | 01:31 |
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| nosrednaekim | Thank you! | 01:32 |
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| HighNo | hi there, anybody interested in a short software test? Needed things: fun, 20 minutes, bluetooth device and mobile phone (just for bluetooth communication) | 10:40 |
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| robotgeek | HighNo: okay, shoot | 11:07 |
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| HighNo | robotgeek: private? | 11:12 |
| robotgeek | HighNo: sure | 11:12 |
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| fabo | Riddell: for strigi 0.5.5 in feisty, what do i need to do ? request backport ? | 02:26 |
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| _StefanS_ | Riddell: kdeaddons, kde-guidance, kdeedu, kdepim, kaffeine is compiled ok now. | 03:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: no changes so far. | 03:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: working on katapult, koffice now. | 03:16 |
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| _StefanS_ | anyone know how to build two source packages that depend on eachother? | 03:31 |
| nosrednaekim | _StefanS_: very carefully ;) | 03:32 |
| _StefanS_ | nosrednaekim: well.. care to elaborate more info ? | 03:33 |
| nosrednaekim | _StefanS_: actually, i'm clueless, sorry. What I would do would be to install a binary version of one, compile the other and then compile the one you used as a binary. | 03:36 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm yep.. I guess that would be the way to go | 03:36 |
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| _StefanS_ | nosrednaekim: actually a manual perl makefile.pl and make ; make install , and then debuild afterwards for same packages works ;) | 03:43 |
| nosrednaekim | good :) | 03:44 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: which two are they? | 03:46 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: libxml-parser-perl_2.34-4.3 and libxml-encoding-perl_1.01-9 | 03:46 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: seems a bit broken.. | 03:47 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: isn't having two packages depend on each other rather a bad practice? | 03:47 |
| _StefanS_ | kinda ;) | 03:47 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: sounds a bit like dependency hell to me | 03:47 |
| _StefanS_ | like a deadlock. | 03:47 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: yeah | 03:47 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: donno how to fix it though, other than merging them some way | 03:47 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: seems like they came directly from debian repos | 03:47 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: I would understand it for some core libraries like gcc or glibc, but is it necessary here? | 03:47 |
| _StefanS_ | nawp.. | 03:47 |
| _StefanS_ | shouldn't be | 03:48 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: strange, on my Gutsy box the l-p-p doesn't depend (directly) on l-e-p | 03:50 |
| _StefanS_ | very weird then | 03:50 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/654482 | 03:51 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: sorry for the Czech locale but I think you'll understand | 03:51 |
| _StefanS_ | 'hmm.. | 03:58 |
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| jeroenvrp | Bug #132000 | 04:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 132000 in kdebase "Clicking on OpenGL in KInfoCenter freezes up the system in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132000 | 04:07 |
| nosrednaekim | jeroenvrp: I'll test that on my system... | 04:08 |
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| _StefanS_ | nosrednaekim: kinfocenter doesn't freeze here. Using fglrx | 05:15 |
| nosrednaekim | _StefanS_: yeah I haven't tested yet, I'm doing something that I don't want to risk crashing :) | 05:16 |
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| jdong | 132000 sounds highly dependent on the video card | 05:17 |
| jdong | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video (rev 01) | 05:18 |
| jdong | you'll need a Via S3 to reproduce it :) | 05:18 |
| nosrednaekim | VIA...is that the person's who crashed? | 05:18 |
| nosrednaekim | jdong: I have one! | 05:18 |
| nosrednaekim | jdong: but I don't have a gutsy 32 bit CD | 05:18 |
| jdong | cool | 05:19 |
| jdong | but darn :) | 05:19 |
| nosrednaekim | i'll see if I can get one though | 05:19 |
| jdong | I've got like ATI's and ATI's around me.... | 05:19 |
| jdong | it's kinda depressing | 05:19 |
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| nosrednaekim | yeah, thats what I have now... | 05:20 |
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| ryanakca | nixternal: Metabot is running it #ubuntu-meta again | 06:25 |
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| nosrednaekim | hello, I have a question regarding the automatic installer for mp3 codecs in amarok | 06:59 |
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| nosrednaekim | why does it have to DL the package lists first? | 07:05 |
| nosrednaekim | I'm on dial up, and that operation takes like 20 minutes | 07:06 |
| trekdanne | to make sure your package list is up to date? | 07:07 |
| Dannioni | (wild guess) Maybe you could download and install the package manually, thus skipping package list stuff? | 07:07 |
| nosrednaekim | Dannioni: oh yeah thats what I did... | 07:07 |
| Dannioni | oh... | 07:08 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: well, to make sure the package name hasn't changed | 07:08 |
| nosrednaekim | Dannioni: and yes,I had just updated my package lists, hence my annoyance. | 07:08 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: rather the version id, and the location of it | 07:08 |
| nosrednaekim | oh.... ok | 07:08 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: adept should do the same thing on startup, doesn't it? | 07:08 |
| nosrednaekim | fetch package lists? no I turned that off. | 07:09 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: I could be wrong, though. | 07:09 |
| nosrednaekim | It ussually fetches the package lists every day, but thats really annoying. | 07:09 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: going off to try your restricted-manager... :) | 07:09 |
| nosrednaekim | Oh well its no big deal :) most people don't have dial up anyway, but maybe you could put in the tool tip that "if this is taking too long, just run "apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"" | 07:11 |
| nosrednaekim | gotta restart.... BBIAB | 07:13 |
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| nosrednaekim | mhb: your restricted drivers manager isworking nicely :) | 07:19 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: good to know | 07:19 |
| nosrednaekim | I read somewhere that they were doing compiz-by-default in ubuntu. Is that true? | 07:20 |
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| mhb | nosrednaekim: I don't think so, no. | 07:22 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: but I may be wrong. | 07:22 |
| nosrednaekim | I had thought it was ditched as well, but I was just checking. | 07:23 |
| nosrednaekim | I think its good because ATI cards juat aren't there yet.. | 07:23 |
| ijuz_ | in gnome you get compiz somehow as default when you are using a intel gfx driver | 07:28 |
| nosrednaekim | ijuz_: with gutsy? | 07:30 |
| ijuz_ | yes | 07:31 |
| ijuz_ | with KDE... i haven't gotten compiz started at all :) | 07:31 |
| nosrednaekim | ijuz_: hmm yeah I was wondering because I have compiz installed on my system, but I don't remember DLing it. | 07:32 |
| ijuz_ | it's on the ubuntu gutsy cd | 07:32 |
| nosrednaekim | interesting... maybe that article wasn't wrong. | 07:34 |
| ijuz_ | funky, when i suspend the screen is full of signs and blinking... and after resume sound doesn't work (2.6.23-rc2) | 07:38 |
| nixternal | kool...I thought that java didn't work with amd64, or rather didn't have an amd64 package | 07:51 |
| mhb | I don't suppose that there is anyone skilled in QGraphicsScene magic ? | 07:59 |
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| jeroenvrp | can I after upgrading to Gutsy easilly downgrade to Feisty? | 08:43 |
| Tm_T | no | 08:44 |
| jeroenvrp | there a to much problems with X and such, so it is not production ready for me | 08:44 |
| jeroenvrp | Tm_T: why | 08:44 |
| nosrednaekim | jeroenvrp: No, I doubt it | 08:44 |
| jeroenvrp | is not just replacing feisty in /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | it's not | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | it's dealing all dependencies and breakages by yourself most likely | 08:45 |
| jeroenvrp | grrr | 08:45 |
| Tm_T | and you end up with, err, broken system quite sure | 08:45 |
| jeroenvrp | oh well, I can reinstall the root partition off course | 08:46 |
| Riddell | fabo: test that it and the current kde4libs version compile and tell me, I can do the backport | 08:51 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: I have reworked the about-kubuntu documentation..I am currently "making" it and will put it on my server for you to review and give info | 10:00 |
| nixternal | Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/ | 10:08 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: it should be all on one page | 10:18 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 10:19 |
| nixternal | that is easy enough to fix | 10:19 |
| nixternal | that will be one long doco | 10:19 |
| nixternal | I take that bac | 10:22 |
| nixternal | k | 10:22 |
| nixternal | it is smooth as 1 page :) | 10:22 |
| nixternal | Riddell: anything you can think of adding, changing, removing, just say it...gonna go prepare for a bbq but I will be checking back | 10:22 |
| nixternal | I want to get an updated docs package done today so that translations can start | 10:22 |
| mhb | nixternal: KDE 3.5.7 | 10:31 |
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| nixternal | mhb: ya, that is already fixed..I didn't build the docs against the entity files yet | 10:49 |
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| mhb | nixternal: IMVHO, there is too much "you can install a different kind of app for this and that" options | 10:59 |
| nixternal | in the equivalent section? | 11:00 |
| mhb | nixternal: yup ... There are various other applications as well for communication use. | 11:01 |
| nixternal | ya, there are some that could probably be cleaned out...but I added them for the time being as filler...I am going to go through and clean that up | 11:01 |
| mhb | nixternal: I would also write Mac OS X as Mac OS X, not Mac OSX | 11:02 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I've never liked the "The Difference" section | 11:02 |
| nixternal | OK | 11:02 |
| Riddell | that first sentence in it is a load of nonsense | 11:02 |
| Riddell | the last paragraph is too | 11:03 |
| nixternal | I will just remove that section | 11:03 |
| nixternal | the middle section is already spread out through the rest of the doco anyways | 11:04 |
| nixternal | ya, there are some things I want to change in there yet as well | 11:04 |
| ijuz_ | mhb: i have another data point regarding the suspend issue | 11:08 |
| mhb | ijuz_: add it to the bug then ... I tried to reproduce it on my laptop but I failed | 11:09 |
| ijuz_ | mhb: i complained yesterday that suspend doesn't work reliable with my old D810 laptop (with feisty) and now i tried also /etc/acpi/sleep.sh directly and i already was able to suspend/resume it 13 times in a row | 11:10 |
| ijuz_ | (with >=2.6.20 there was this problem, with older ones it works) | 11:10 |
| ijuz_ | with the button and kde... 2 times it worked, the r3rd time some garbage on the screen and the 4th try it fails... so KDE is too blame, excellent, that increases the chance of a solution | 11:16 |
| mhb | ijuz_: could you please add your findings to the bug if you didn't do it yet? thanks. | 11:27 |
| ijuz_ | i'm just doing this and posting to lkml, i complained about a kernel bug there ;) | 11:28 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: anything else you would like to see in the about-kubuntu doco? | 11:46 |
| nixternal | I have changed it around a little, and remove that difference section | 11:46 |
| nixternal | fixed up 2 sections making them "what is linux?" and "what is kde?", since the wonderful world of linux was annoying | 11:46 |
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