=== nosrednaekim [n=michael@02-094.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] HEY! Gutsy fixed my wireless! YAY! [01:32] Thank you! === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | anyone want to help port kde/qt to lpia - Low Power on Intel Architecture? | Tribe 4 Released === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Thu Aug 9 16:04:17 2007 === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | anyone want to help port kde/qt to lpia - Low Power on Intel Architecture? | Tribe 4 Released === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Thu Aug 9 16:04:17 2007 === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Shely [n=Sea@60.20.54.67] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@adsl-64-237-197-62.prtc.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | anyone want to help port kde/qt to lpia - Low Power on Intel Architecture? | Tribe 4 Released === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Thu Aug 9 16:04:17 2007 === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #kubuntu-devel === emonkey [n=emonkey@static-pro-212-101-27-121.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DHGE [n=alois@i59F63802.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === HighNo [n=dontread@p5488E13D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:40] hi there, anybody interested in a short software test? Needed things: fun, 20 minutes, bluetooth device and mobile phone (just for bluetooth communication) === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:07] HighNo: okay, shoot === glatzor [n=renate@p57AED902.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:12] robotgeek: private? [11:12] HighNo: sure === HighNo [n=dontread@p5488E13D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@13.Red-81-39-193.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pgquiles_ [n=pgquiles@222.Red-83-49-101.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387D203.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Prezu [i=patryk@dug.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pgquiles_ is now known as pgquiles === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.118.1.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [n=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Igorots [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-125.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pgquiles_ [n=pgquiles@20.Red-83-42-63.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [n=N@host86-131-95-65.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [02:26] Riddell: for strigi 0.5.5 in feisty, what do i need to do ? request backport ? === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === blueyed [n=daniel@i5387C409.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca_ [n=ryanakca@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-125.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kruemel_ [n=kvirc@p3EE28A01.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-125.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: kdeaddons, kde-guidance, kdeedu, kdepim, kaffeine is compiled ok now. [03:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: no changes so far. [03:16] <_StefanS_> Riddell: working on katapult, koffice now. === Ash-Fox [n=N@host86-131-95-65.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [03:31] <_StefanS_> anyone know how to build two source packages that depend on eachother? [03:32] _StefanS_: very carefully ;) [03:33] <_StefanS_> nosrednaekim: well.. care to elaborate more info ? [03:36] _StefanS_: actually, i'm clueless, sorry. What I would do would be to install a binary version of one, compile the other and then compile the one you used as a binary. [03:36] <_StefanS_> uhm yep.. I guess that would be the way to go === apachelogger [n=me@N810P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:43] <_StefanS_> nosrednaekim: actually a manual perl makefile.pl and make ; make install , and then debuild afterwards for same packages works ;) [03:44] good :) [03:46] _StefanS_: which two are they? [03:46] <_StefanS_> mhb: libxml-parser-perl_2.34-4.3 and libxml-encoding-perl_1.01-9 [03:47] <_StefanS_> mhb: seems a bit broken.. [03:47] _StefanS_: isn't having two packages depend on each other rather a bad practice? [03:47] <_StefanS_> kinda ;) [03:47] _StefanS_: sounds a bit like dependency hell to me [03:47] <_StefanS_> like a deadlock. [03:47] _StefanS_: yeah [03:47] <_StefanS_> mhb: donno how to fix it though, other than merging them some way [03:47] <_StefanS_> mhb: seems like they came directly from debian repos [03:47] _StefanS_: I would understand it for some core libraries like gcc or glibc, but is it necessary here? [03:47] <_StefanS_> nawp.. [03:48] <_StefanS_> shouldn't be [03:50] _StefanS_: strange, on my Gutsy box the l-p-p doesn't depend (directly) on l-e-p [03:50] <_StefanS_> very weird then [03:51] _StefanS_: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/654482 [03:51] _StefanS_: sorry for the Czech locale but I think you'll understand [03:58] <_StefanS_> 'hmm.. === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:07] Bug #132000 [04:07] Launchpad bug 132000 in kdebase "Clicking on OpenGL in KInfoCenter freezes up the system in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132000 [04:08] jeroenvrp: I'll test that on my system... === mbiebl [n=michael@e180064072.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dannioni [n=Dannioni@81-235-188-29-no48.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has left #kubuntu-devel ["The] === ClassBar [n=ClassBar@59.172.76.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:15] <_StefanS_> nosrednaekim: kinfocenter doesn't freeze here. Using fglrx [05:16] _StefanS_: yeah I haven't tested yet, I'm doing something that I don't want to risk crashing :) === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:17] 132000 sounds highly dependent on the video card [05:18] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video (rev 01) [05:18] you'll need a Via S3 to reproduce it :) [05:18] VIA...is that the person's who crashed? [05:18] jdong: I have one! [05:18] jdong: but I don't have a gutsy 32 bit CD [05:19] cool [05:19] but darn :) [05:19] i'll see if I can get one though [05:19] I've got like ATI's and ATI's around me.... [05:19] it's kinda depressing === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:20] yeah, thats what I have now... === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:25] nixternal: Metabot is running it #ubuntu-meta again === ryanakca gone for another week === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-125.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === J-Unit [n=jdong@STRATTON-FIVE-FIFTY-TWO.MIT.EDU] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:59] hello, I have a question regarding the automatic installer for mp3 codecs in amarok === trekdanne [n=danne@h121n2fls34o895.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:05] why does it have to DL the package lists first? [07:06] I'm on dial up, and that operation takes like 20 minutes [07:07] to make sure your package list is up to date? [07:07] (wild guess) Maybe you could download and install the package manually, thus skipping package list stuff? [07:07] Dannioni: oh yeah thats what I did... [07:08] oh... [07:08] nosrednaekim: well, to make sure the package name hasn't changed [07:08] Dannioni: and yes,I had just updated my package lists, hence my annoyance. [07:08] nosrednaekim: rather the version id, and the location of it [07:08] oh.... ok [07:08] nosrednaekim: adept should do the same thing on startup, doesn't it? [07:09] fetch package lists? no I turned that off. [07:09] nosrednaekim: I could be wrong, though. [07:09] It ussually fetches the package lists every day, but thats really annoying. [07:09] mhb: going off to try your restricted-manager... :) [07:11] Oh well its no big deal :) most people don't have dial up anyway, but maybe you could put in the tool tip that "if this is taking too long, just run "apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"" [07:13] gotta restart.... BBIAB === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-125.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:19] mhb: your restricted drivers manager isworking nicely :) [07:19] nosrednaekim: good to know [07:20] I read somewhere that they were doing compiz-by-default in ubuntu. Is that true? === mbiebl [n=michael@e180064072.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:22] nosrednaekim: I don't think so, no. [07:22] nosrednaekim: but I may be wrong. [07:23] I had thought it was ditched as well, but I was just checking. [07:23] I think its good because ATI cards juat aren't there yet.. [07:28] in gnome you get compiz somehow as default when you are using a intel gfx driver [07:30] ijuz_: with gutsy? [07:31] yes [07:31] with KDE... i haven't gotten compiz started at all :) [07:32] ijuz_: hmm yeah I was wondering because I have compiz installed on my system, but I don't remember DLing it. [07:32] it's on the ubuntu gutsy cd [07:34] interesting... maybe that article wasn't wrong. [07:38] funky, when i suspend the screen is full of signs and blinking... and after resume sound doesn't work (2.6.23-rc2) [07:51] kool...I thought that java didn't work with amd64, or rather didn't have an amd64 package [07:59] I don't suppose that there is anyone skilled in QGraphicsScene magic ? === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-125.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:43] can I after upgrading to Gutsy easilly downgrade to Feisty? [08:44] no [08:44] there a to much problems with X and such, so it is not production ready for me [08:44] Tm_T: why [08:44] jeroenvrp: No, I doubt it [08:44] is not just replacing feisty in /etc/apt/sources.list [08:44] it's not [08:45] it's dealing all dependencies and breakages by yourself most likely [08:45] grrr [08:45] and you end up with, err, broken system quite sure [08:46] oh well, I can reinstall the root partition off course [08:51] fabo: test that it and the current kde4libs version compile and tell me, I can do the backport === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-125.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosredna [n=michael@04-125.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel === trekdanne [n=danne@h121n2fls34o895.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === dany_21a [n=dan@83-65-239-69.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger is now known as tarlogger === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5400DBA0.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N710P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:00] Riddell: I have reworked the about-kubuntu documentation..I am currently "making" it and will put it on my server for you to review and give info [10:08] Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/ === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:18] nixternal: it should be all on one page [10:19] hrmm [10:19] that is easy enough to fix [10:19] that will be one long doco [10:22] I take that bac [10:22] k [10:22] it is smooth as 1 page :) [10:22] Riddell: anything you can think of adding, changing, removing, just say it...gonna go prepare for a bbq but I will be checking back [10:22] I want to get an updated docs package done today so that translations can start [10:31] nixternal: KDE 3.5.7 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-150.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:49] mhb: ya, that is already fixed..I didn't build the docs against the entity files yet === dany_21a [n=dan@83-65-239-69.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-18-142.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957EFE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:59] nixternal: IMVHO, there is too much "you can install a different kind of app for this and that" options [11:00] in the equivalent section? [11:01] nixternal: yup ... There are various other applications as well for communication use. [11:01] ya, there are some that could probably be cleaned out...but I added them for the time being as filler...I am going to go through and clean that up [11:02] nixternal: I would also write Mac OS X as Mac OS X, not Mac OSX [11:02] nixternal: I've never liked the "The Difference" section [11:02] OK [11:02] that first sentence in it is a load of nonsense [11:03] the last paragraph is too [11:03] I will just remove that section [11:04] the middle section is already spread out through the rest of the doco anyways [11:04] ya, there are some things I want to change in there yet as well [11:08] mhb: i have another data point regarding the suspend issue [11:09] ijuz_: add it to the bug then ... I tried to reproduce it on my laptop but I failed [11:10] mhb: i complained yesterday that suspend doesn't work reliable with my old D810 laptop (with feisty) and now i tried also /etc/acpi/sleep.sh directly and i already was able to suspend/resume it 13 times in a row [11:10] (with >=2.6.20 there was this problem, with older ones it works) [11:16] with the button and kde... 2 times it worked, the r3rd time some garbage on the screen and the 4th try it fails... so KDE is too blame, excellent, that increases the chance of a solution [11:27] ijuz_: could you please add your findings to the bug if you didn't do it yet? thanks. [11:28] i'm just doing this and posting to lkml, i complained about a kernel bug there ;) === trekdanne [n=danne@h121n2fls34o895.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180064072.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-050.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:46] Riddell: anything else you would like to see in the about-kubuntu doco? [11:46] I have changed it around a little, and remove that difference section [11:46] fixed up 2 sections making them "what is linux?" and "what is kde?", since the wonderful world of linux was annoying === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-000-254.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-56-183.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel