[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #131889 in launchpad "e-mail sent to <bugnumber>@bugs.launchpad.net is not processed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131889
[08:01] <mpt> Goooooooooooood evening Launchpadders!
[08:02] <Hobbsee> hiya mpt!
[08:02] <Hobbsee> mpt: has the sky fallen in yet?
[08:02] <mpt> Hobbsee, no, why?
[08:02] <Hobbsee> mpt: good to know, then.
[08:02] <Hobbsee> mpt: because it's useful to know.
[08:03] <Hobbsee> i'd prefer to know in advance if the sky is going to fall in and eat me, you see...
[08:03] <Hobbsee> mpt: then i have the chance to reason with it, and tell it that it shouldnt :P
[08:04] <mpt> Oh, and I'm in an earlier timezone, so if it's going to eat you, it'll eat me first
[08:04] <mpt> So *that*'s the reason for my existence! I'm an early-warning system.
[08:05] <Hobbsee> mpt: i didnt know you were a new zealander...
[08:05] <mpt> Ah, yeah, gidday
[08:05] <Hobbsee> mpt: any idea why i cannot view https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/131924 ?
[08:06] <mpt> It's blocked by Australia's Internet filter
[08:06] <mpt> erm
[08:06] <mpt> No, I don't know
[08:06] <mpt> Oh wait, I do have one small idea
[08:07] <Hobbsee> it's from the forums, so it's clearly not a private (canonical) bug
[08:08] <mpt> It *might* be bug 130785
[08:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 130785 in malone "Can not view a bug that is a duplicate of a private bug" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130785 - Assigned to Gavin Panella (allenap)
[08:08] <mpt> but I can't see it either, so I don't know.
[08:09] <Hobbsee> mpt: oh yes, i see.  that might be it.  it's not showing up on the list, but i would have thought it would redirect to the unduped bug or something.
[08:09] <Hobbsee> er, sorry, the master bug
[08:10] <Hobbsee> oh, wait.  ignore that.
[08:12] <Hobbsee> mpt: and no, i cant.
[08:12] <mpt> No you can't what?
[08:12] <Hobbsee> sorry, it doesnt show up on the listing, when including dupes
[08:12] <mpt> ah
[08:13] <mpt> That suggests that it's a private bug, rather than that it's a duplicate of a private bug
[08:13] <Hobbsee> if it's an ordinary private bug, then i should be able to see it
[08:13] <mpt> ah, because you're in Ubuntu Core Developers
[08:14] <Hobbsee> yes
[08:14] <Hobbsee> MOTU and up can see it
[08:14] <mpt> I don't know, then
[08:14] <mpt> You would need to ask someone with super special powers
[08:14] <Hobbsee> well, apport and such does do the retracing, so i would expect it to be able to search all the other bugs.
[08:15] <Hobbsee> hmmm.  iirc, apport marks all bugs as private, until someone sets them as public, instead of just retracing and stripping the info.
[08:15] <mpt> Roll on a real crash database!
[08:15] <Hobbsee> yeah, well.  get coding :P
[08:16] <mpt> Do I look like a coder?
[08:16] <mpt> I did my part, arranging the first meeting last year
[08:16] <mpt> and I'll gladly design any UI necessary :-)
[08:16] <Hobbsee> you look like a mpt. you may also look like a coder, i dont know.
[08:16] <Hobbsee> hehe :)
[08:46] <mpt> We shall rectify that someday
[08:47] <Hobbsee> hopefully
[08:49] <Laibsch> Aren't https://launchpad.net/pptp/ and https://launchpad.net/pptpclient/ duplicate entries of the same project?
[08:50] <mpt> Laibsch, indeed they are
[08:50] <Laibsch> mpt: Can you correct it?
[08:51] <mpt> I cannae dee it
[08:51] <mpt> I'm noot an admin
[08:53] <mpt> but I shall make a request for it to be done
[08:54] <Laibsch> Cool
[08:54] <Laibsch> thanks.
[08:54] <Laibsch> Where can one do that?
[08:55] <mpt> http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[08:55] <mpt> e.g. https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/11373
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #131933 in launchpad "bash project double entry" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131933
[10:32] <jason1987655> hello! admin here?
[11:18] <omega> I get access denied trying to view a bugreport that I said my own bugreport was a duplicate of.. any idea how I can view it?
[11:18] <omega> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-butterfly/+bug/127855 is the bug
[11:20] <Fujitsu> omega: Can you please try again?
[11:20] <omega> yay, thanks :(
[11:20] <omega> :)
[11:21] <Fujitsu> omega: The bug that #127855 was marked as a duplicate of was marked private, due to being reported by apport. There was no reason to keep it private, so I unmarked it.
[11:21] <omega> aha
[11:23] <omega> should I somehow add my crash report to either of the bugs?
[11:25] <Fujitsu> omega: If it is a duplicate, it's unlikely you'll be able to provide more information with a crash report.
[11:25] <omega> well, ok
[11:25] <omega> ups, "ok" :p
[11:26] <omega> thanks for the help :)
[11:26] <Fujitsu> No problme.
[11:26] <Fujitsu> *problem
[12:39] <Theuni> *sigh*
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #131956 in soyuz "[PPA]  - Can't handle multiple distributions in changelog" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131956
[12:48] <Theuni> Hmm. I wonder, sometimes when assigning a bug to releases, the first entry in the the table becomes `inactive`, sometimes not. When does this happen?
[12:49] <Fujitsu> Theuni: It becomes useless when it's nominated for the development release, so is disabled.
[12:49] <Theuni> I don't understand that answer. :/
[12:49] <Theuni> Oh wait, you mean when one of the targettet releases is the current focus of development?
[12:49] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[12:49] <Fujitsu> As the Ubuntu task is meant to track it in the current development release anyway.
[12:50] <Theuni> And why is it useful when it's not targetted to the release?
[12:51] <Fujitsu> Well, most bugs don't have release-specific tasks.
[12:52] <Theuni> Hmm. For Ubuntu, that is?
[12:52] <Fujitsu> If we need a SRU (stable release update) we'll nominate a task for a previous release.
[12:53] <Fujitsu> Multiple release-specific tasks are generally used for security fixes which affect a number of releases including the development one.
[06:40] <GaryvdM> Hi. How do you set a revision hint when you have added a branch for a bug?
[09:14] <pljones> Hi.  I want to report a bug in initramfs-tools but launchpad tells me "initramfs-tools does not use Launchpad as its bug tracker.", even though there are bug against it.  Anyone know what the right package is..?
[09:19] <intellectronica> pljones: it means that the project uses an external bug tracker (for example, a bugzilla or trac instance, possiblly running on the project's website) and not malone
[09:20] <intellectronica> pljones: if you're sure that this is a bug in the package, you should try to find what bugtracker they use and either file it there, or even better, register this bug tracker with launchpad, so that bug reports will be automatically forwarded
[09:21] <intellectronica> pljones: otherwise, if this is a bug in a distribution (say, ubuntu), you can file it against the package in the distribution in launchpad
[09:23] <pljones> You mean generically against "ubuntu"?  There's no "initramfs-tools (ubuntu)" package, afaics.
[09:24] <intellectronica> pljones: you're right, it's not in ubuntu - so, is it a bug with upstream?
[09:24] <pljones> I'm not sure -- it's a debian package, but I would imagine it's packaged for ubuntu by someone?
[09:25] <pljones> There's nothing in /usr/share/doc/initramfs-tools/ that gives the game away, though...
[09:25] <pljones> Actually...
[09:26] <pljones> The changelog has adconrad@ubuntu.com as the last changer.
[09:26] <pljones> (Right about the time I started getting Segfaults, too, which is _good_...)
[09:27] <intellectronica> actually, it's here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools
[09:27] <intellectronica> and there are some bugs filed already
[09:27] <intellectronica> there's, of course, the debian equivalent too
[09:28] <intellectronica> is that what you're looking for?
[09:28] <pljones> What does the "+source" do..?  Bug the "source" package?
[09:30] <pljones> (That's the one, though -- thanks!)
[09:34] <pljones> And it's already reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/131961 -- saves me writing it all up :)
[09:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 131961 in initramfs-tools "segfault when booting 2.6.22-9-generic" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[09:35] <intellectronica> cool
[09:39] <pljones> Thanks intellectronica, ubotu.  I guess the folks @ubuntu.com will get the bug.  Doesn't seem to be causing any significant problems...
[09:39] <intellectronica> np, pljones
[09:39] <pljones> Bye