[12:28] full session [12:30] what kde version do you see ? === jpwhiting [n=jeremy@71-219-82-212.slkc.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] === assasukasse [n=assasuka@n219079164170.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RadiantFire [n=ryan@64.203.238.119.static-pool-3.pool.hargray.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:35] in a kde app > help > about kde [12:37] Thank you :) Problem was that I haven't installed kubuntu-desktop [12:39] so ? what do you think of kde 4 bata [12:39] i suggest you try marble [12:40] and also test window behavior [12:41] I like it. I only hope some use instruction video [12:42] currently its not really usable [12:43] But I really like this KDE and this works good in Kubuntu [12:44] and I really like graphic and games [12:45] You can forgot Vista :) [12:47] svg games [12:47] and oxygen [12:47] strigi + nepomuk [12:47] solid phonon decibel .... [12:48] :) I have to try === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:51] in a kde app > window behavior > enable desktop effects === Haz [n=dot@88-107-2-130.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:55] how do I get behavior -menu [12:56] ? [12:56] ah, the kde menu on the application icon === holzmodem [n=holzmode@dslb-084-060-211-147.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:01] do I need xgl [01:01] if you start nepomukdeamon and dolphin, and then view info pane you can rate files, tag them and write comments [01:01] mattik: just try === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thully [n=thully@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:12] mattik: and ? === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:18] I'm very slow, but I study. Thank you developers :) === ionstorm [n=ion@71-35-75-172.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@152.89-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:19] I write in dark room === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-14-216.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:19] no soft walls ;) === SEpda [n=chatzill@202-180-118-226.jetbuster.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:21] whats the kernel in gutsy alpha 4 [01:21] anyone know [01:21] is it .23 ? [01:21] i run Linux pvandewyngaerde-desktop 2.6.22-9-generic #1 SMP Fri Aug 3 00:20:35 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux [01:22] and so it will stay afik due to the search for stability [01:22] ok i mean this one [01:22] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/gutsy/tribe-4/gutsy-desktop-i386.iso [01:22] what is the kernel [01:23] !kernel [01:23] kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel. You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild [01:23] ompaul: version [01:23] whats the kernel in gutsy alpha 4 [01:23] SEpda, no idea lets have a look at the web site [01:23] hard to find [01:23] ok [01:23] thank anyway [01:23] it's 2.6.22... [01:24] ok [01:24] linux-generic 2.6.22.9.10 [01:24] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/gutsy/tribe-4/gutsy-desktop-i386.manifest [01:24] thully: ok no 23 [01:25] nope - I heard it's not going to be in the final release either [01:25] awe [01:25] just all the new vm technolagey [01:25] SEpda, they want something that will not bite them [01:25] i like === assasukasse [n=assasuka@n219079164170.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:26] by the way whats the fastest vm around i wan to run on a hand held pc [01:26] old one with crap all ram [01:27] kqemu is all i've found [01:27] lol, i enabled desktop effets in KDE4 and now i have them in kde3 [01:27] well vmware might be faster [01:28] but vmware wont run on mips [01:28] and many handhelds are mips [01:29] pvandewyngaerde: on ubuntu? [01:29] kubuntu [01:29] pvandewyngaerde: wops yeah [01:30] Oog... a fully featured VM on a handheld is just asking for pain. [01:30] pvandewyngaerde: is it a deb or cvs/svn [01:30] ? === igorgue [n=igorgue@adsl-161-67-63.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] === wfarr [n=wfarr@adsl-211-160-145.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:32] deb === reep [n=geirha@bl242a.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:32] nvm, its a small kde3 setting, use transparancy and shadows [01:33] pvandewyngaerde: cool is it easy to set up? === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Topic for #ubuntu+1: The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 4 released! === Topic (#ubuntu+1): set by Hobbsee at Thu Aug 9 16:02:44 2007 === openbysource [n=deepsa@fedora/openbysource] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu+1.log [07:17] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support) [07:17] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-ops] Welcome to #ubuntu-ops - Home of the operators for official K/X/Ed/Ubuntu channels. Questions, requests and complaints about Ubuntu related channels and their people can be filed here" === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Topic for #ubuntu+1: The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 4 released! === Topic (#ubuntu+1): set by Hobbsee at Thu Aug 9 16:02:44 2007 [07:17] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu+1] Please read the topic. Especially if things are broken! === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi_ [n=compengi@63-216-113-146.sdsl.cais.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === se7en^Of^9 [n=se7enofn@125-24-145-88.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === assasukasse [n=assasuka@n219079164170.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sdest [n=sdest@c-69-250-163-18.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu+1.log [08:12] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support) [08:13] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-ops] Welcome to #ubuntu-ops - Home of the operators for official K/X/Ed/Ubuntu channels. Questions, requests and complaints about Ubuntu related channels and their people can be filed here" === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Topic for #ubuntu+1: The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 4 released! === Topic (#ubuntu+1): set by Hobbsee at Thu Aug 9 16:02:44 2007 [08:13] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu+1] Please read the topic. Especially if things are broken! === jdt [n=jdt@58.172.8.201] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:27] has anyone else noticed that trackerd seems to constantly run and consume cpu and hdd utilisation? [08:29] it is a file indexer... but I use strigi so I wouldn't know [08:30] stdin: yeah, my major complaint about it is that it seems to need to permanently run, consuming about 40% CPU and incurring constant HDD activity, thus slows my machine quite a bit... [08:30] stdin: Strigi? is it particularly resource hungry? [08:30] I haven't noticed it actually [08:31] it's more KDE than Gnome tho, that's why Kubuntu uses it [08:31] stdin: how well does strigi work? i've not tried it yet [08:32] Hobbsee: I haven't really uses it, just ran the daemon, it calmed down after a while (I need to read the docs to learn how to use the client) [08:33] stdin: Ahhh, well I have just installed the gnome meta package, was originally running Kubuntu. === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:34] However, OpenOffice just simply doesnt work in Kubuntu for me... So I have gone back to Gnome now. [08:34] jdt: the solution for oo.o seems to be to install openoffice.org-gnome [08:34] stdin: workaround. not solution [08:34] well, yes [08:35] stdin: to get it to work in KDE? Sweet... === mloki_ [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:35] not sure why it works, but it just dose [08:37] jdt: my guess is that trackerd builds an initial database the same way windows and locate does [08:37] wow, this index is taking a while [08:37] it was quicker at UDS [08:38] jdt: with large systems, that could take a while. but i suppose its easily possible that trackerd is also broke [08:38] Does it stop when on battery? If not, I won't use it. [08:38] And can it do Thunderbird e-mails? [08:38] ive never been fond of indexing services [08:38] its a hack [08:39] jldugger: Instead of database-as-filesystem? [08:39] DanaG: seems that it can do tb emails [08:39] instead of filesystem as filesystem === Hobbsee prefers grep, usually === RAOF remenices of Gnome Storage. Man, that would have been cool. [08:40] Hobbsee: I don't think grep catches emails well :) [08:40] indexing services are kludges that attempt to solve a fundamental filesystem problem [08:40] RAOF: i meant for files :P [08:40] obviously trackerd does more than just files [08:40] RAOF: thunderbird has a search in it. it only does for the individual folder though [08:41] As does evolution. I like integrated search, though. [08:41] deskbar? [08:41] I love deskbar, yes. [08:42] Still, not quite integrated search on its own. [08:42] does the gutsy packaging guide still reference an old version of the ubuntu hellow world package? [08:43] jldugger: no idea, probably [08:43] oh, nasty [08:43] from edgy :( [08:43] with strigi, it appears that you cant type a string of letters at once - it tries to search, even when you'res till typing, and it wont let you put other letters in while it searches [08:44] jldugger: has it had that many changes? [08:44] Hobbsee: GNU hello world no longer has a mailer, for one [08:44] but more importantly, all the urls are wrong [08:44] i remember requesting a sync for it, and getting teased [08:44] ahhh [08:44] and some of the files are no longer present [08:44] ie postinst [08:45] Hello has a postinst? [08:45] not anymore [08:45] they were used for an info file before it seems [08:45] im not sure what for [08:46] dephelper seems nice. [08:47] Debhelper, rather than manually writing postinst et al? Totally. [08:47] so far i havent had to worry at all about lsd/ubuntu policy for where files are installed etc, i hope thats not just gnu hello === Hobbsee suspects that the packaging guide is on a wiki, and can be updated [08:48] what id like to do is package some games written in D [08:48] unfortunately, there's no serious D compiler packages yet, so that's a problem [08:49] step one is to see if the GCC version will do the job, and pray that packaging a compiler is less complicated than packaging a cross compiler === RAOF laughs evilly. [08:50] Actually, you won't have to bootstrap it I suppose. That shouldn't be terribly terribly hard then. [08:50] ive managed to install the binaries they provide [08:50] actually, i think i made a deb for it via alien [08:51] but dgcc doesn't seem to publish packages regularly [08:52] but gunroar is neat. its too bad it raises a huge problem [08:52] the source code is open BSD style, but the language it's written in doesn't have a good open source compiler it seems =/ [08:53] Throw it in non-free :) [08:53] i dont think it'll even make it there [08:54] i recall reading that non-free packages that need non-free binaries to build are not good [08:55] It's a free package, it just needs non-free tools to build, right? [08:56] right now the hope is that a newer release of the GNU compiler will have improved enough since i tried last time [08:56] RAOF: well, i havent done a complete check, but i believe that to be the case [08:56] there's music and i dont know if they're licensed specifically [08:57] Then that can go in non-free. Where all the java packages that didn't build with anything but sun's java went. [08:57] what exactly is in contrib then? [08:58] Uuum. Stuff. You know, bits. [08:58] i guess the other problem is im not a DD [08:58] i think i can find a few though === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Agrajag [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === firephoto_ [n=tom@pool-71-120-230-100.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Linux_Galore_ [n=richard@60-242-20-212.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === emonkey-p [n=emonkey@static-pro-212-101-27-121.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === assasukasse [n=assasuka@n219079164170.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === makuseru [n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=bah@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zdra [n=zdra@137.171-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pavka [n=pavka@213.29.55.196] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-6-154.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:55] argh. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deskbar-applet/+bug/131446 [09:55] Launchpad bug 131446 in deskbar-applet "[gutsy] Deskbar results appears in a window" [Low,Won't fix] [09:56] Upstrream: unknown. === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === humbolt [n=elias@81.5.202.185] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:01] does the server install cd support lvm as well or does only alternate support that? [10:02] I am having problems with the alternate cd. [10:02] not detecting my cdrom drive (after initial boot into the installer app) === DHGE [n=alois@i59F63802.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mloki_ [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:07] hi - anyone has a successful crypsetup eith luks running? [10:07] kind of weird here - following my scripts from feisty - gets mountet on dm-1 ???! === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-249.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === morn [n=armocum@125-27-77-56.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:10] How do I recompile an ubuntu kernel for a different subarch (crusoe). I want to end up with a kernel package, kernel headers and restricted modules package. === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === morn [n=armocum@125-27-77-56.adsl.totbb.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === karmue [n=karli@e178156209.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ssam [n=ssam@87.127.117.246] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@57.87-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === humbol1 [n=elias@81.5.202.185] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pvandewyngaerde_ [n=pvandewy@70.51-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:31] jluddger: thanks for your thoughts re tracker. My system has about 60Gb of data on it, however its a laptop that I use all the time, so it drives me nuts. Is there any issue with, say, just not having an indexing service? I rarely ever search for files on my system.? === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:39] disable it ? === KjetilK [n=kjetil@cm-84.208.137.026.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:40] I need to try the linux 2.6.22 kernel for support of the RF_KILL switch on my laptop [10:41] so, I'm compiling 2.6.22 on an otherwise feisty system [10:41] kernel compile went fine [10:41] pvandewyngaerde_: hi, yeah, thats a fair enough idea :)... thanks [10:41] but how do I get my new kernel to use the nvidia restricted modules? [10:43] KjetilK: compile it for your kernel? [10:43] ameyer: with make-kpkg? [10:43] I'm not sure exactly how you'd do it [10:44] ok [10:44] I think it'd involve module-assistant [10:44] hmmm, right [10:44] or something like that [10:44] probably === pvandewyngaerde_ is now known as pvandewyngaerde [10:45] since it doesn't unpack in a modules/ directory, I figured it probably won't be make-kpkg [10:45] KjetilK: http://amazingrando.wordpress.com/2007/04/10/compiling-and-using-newest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-its-easier-than-you-think/ [10:45] which is how I usually do anything kernel related [10:46] ooooh, thanks [10:46] you should remove linux-headers-`uname -r` from the apt line [10:47] but the kernel build thingy apparently makes the headers anyway [10:48] KjetilK: you could also try to build linux-restricted-modules if you wanted [10:48] KjetilK: instructions are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild [10:49] KjetilK: I'd just build nvidia if that's all you need [10:49] yeah, thanks [10:49] I probably need some wifi drivers too [10:50] and eventually, I'll try iwlwifi [10:52] KjetilK: It works. Kinda. [10:53] Is it possible to sync a kernel tree which I have from the linux-source package with git? or will it download all files again? [10:53] humbol1: It'll download everything again, probably. [10:54] The kernel source doesn't come with the .git metadata, probably. === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:54] RAOF: good :-) [10:55] RAOF: Is there any way to circumvent the 200MB download or compress it? [10:55] Nope. [10:55] too bad [10:55] Well, you could *try* to get someone to make a tarball of the git tree, .git directory and all. [10:55] I'm not sure if that'd be much, if any, smaller though. [10:57] OMG, the abi and flavours stuff seems rather intricate... === assasukasse [n=assasuka@n219079164170.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:57] RAOF: Well the linux-source package only has 20 MB packed and 300 MB unpacked. === benanzo [n=benw@c-71-197-165-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === KjetilK pulls back his sleeves [10:58] have we talked about the flashplugin yet? [10:58] I still don't have the newest update that's supposed to fix it. === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ke- [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@124.82.31.196] has joined #ubuntu+1 === assasukasse [n=assasuka@n219079164170.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi [n=compengi@77.42.180.172] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === ubuntu__ [n=ubuntu@60-242-20-212.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nox-Hand [i=johnhand@unaffiliated/nox-hand] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:26] How would I update to 7.10? :) [11:26] what would be the command to reinstall the kernel again ? [11:27] Ive setup a chroot for the broken install but I need to reinstall the updated kernel because it broke [11:27] Linux_Galore: apt-get remove and apt-get intsall it? DON'T trust my advice though =] [11:27] Linux_Galore: apt-get --reinstall install package is easier [11:27] nox-Hand: ubuntu or kubuntu? [11:28] stdin: Ubuntu [11:28] nox-Hand: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe4 === sten [n=sten@c-4a45e055.1015-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:28] so just apt-get --reinstall kernel wont I need the full kernel details ? [11:29] Linux_Galore: you need to know the package name and do sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-WhateverVersion [11:30] stdin: Can't I upgrade my sources.list and then apt-get dist-upgrade? [11:30] nox-Hand: yes, but the "update-manager -d" way is preferable [11:32] stdin: But where do I get the sources.list so I can do the update manager? [11:32] whats the latest image package name I have four in my apt cache file [11:32] linux-image-generic_2.6.22.9.10_i386.deb ? === ameyer [n=cheesebo@adsl-75-57-176-212.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:33] nox-Hand: you just add the feisty-proposed repository and update "update-manager" [11:34] linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic_2.6.22-9.25_i386.deb ? [11:34] stdin: Where do I get the feisty-proposed though? [11:34] Linux_Galore: then it'd be "linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic" [11:34] Just change deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted to feisty-proposed? [11:34] nox-Hand: if you don't know that are you sure you should be running a development bersion [11:34] Or [11:34] s/bersion/version [11:35] stdin: Probably not, but I shall undoubtedly be able to nonetheless =D [11:36] nox-Hand: copy the normal line and paste it in under it, then change "feisty" to "feisty-proposed" [11:36] Okay [11:37] stdin: What about feisty-updates? feisty-proposed-updates? [11:38] no [11:38] just that one line [11:39] : Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.22-9-generic_2.6.22-9.25_i386.deb [11:39] grr [11:39] its sitting in the apt archive [11:40] Linux_Galore: "linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic" not "linux-headers-2.6.22-9-generic_2.6.22-9.25_i386.deb" === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi_ [n=compengi@63-216-116-51.sdsl.cais.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:41] aah [11:42] E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic_2.6.22-9.25_i386.deb [11:42] nope [11:43] stdin: had 11 updates in update-mananger -d [11:43] Linux_Galore: listen, it's "linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic" not with the .deb [11:43] No dist.upgrade mentioned [11:44] that's what the instructions say, you can just run "sed -i 's/feisty/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list" if you want === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:46] stdin: thanks, now to reboot, been years since Ive done this === Nicke [n=niclasa@h161n2fls31o808.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:57] Concerning kernel recompilation: In debian/config/i386 there are sever config files for subarchs. How can I best create a config file for subarch crusoe or crusoe-lowlatency? [11:57] Is there a way to automatically create such a config file without thouching it by hand? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Linux_Galore [n=richard@60-242-20-212.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:01] stdin: well the machines back up thanks [12:01] stupid kernel corruption [12:01] :) [12:02] goto reload my nvidia stuff now for some reason the kernel cant see it [12:02] can anybody help me with creating creating an additional config file for subarch crusoe [12:02] The proper way I mean [12:03] might just stick with the nv driver as I dont play games === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bballizlife [n=bballizl@ALyon-158-1-126-42.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.127.167] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:06] Linux_Galore: Could you instead stick with nouveau? [12:06] !nouveau | Linux_Galore [12:06] Linux_Galore: Nouveau is an experimental open-source nVidia driver, aiming for full 3d support. Homepage at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/ - EXPERIMENTAL packages at https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~raof/+archive [12:06] Heh ;) [12:06] hello [12:07] RAOF: the nouveau driver from what Ive read doent work with a GF4 setup [12:07] doesnt* [12:07] i tried tribe3 live CD and this was ok. yesterday i tried tribe4 and the live CD can't boot : "Could not find kernel image: linux" === grumpymole [n=warren@c211-28-135-80.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:08] yeah, Im finding the batch of updates I did for tribe 4 have way more breakage [12:08] Linux_Galore: Maybe. You'll never know unless you try :) [12:08] i checked that the checksum is ok before i burned the .iso [12:08] Linux_Galore: I think it works pretty much down as low as TNT2, though. [12:08] Linux_Galore: They'd love some testing from the older cards :) [12:09] RAOF: is it on the repo for Gutsy ? === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:11] do i have to report a bug ? [12:12] Linux_Galore: Follow the dogfood link in nouveau. [12:12] !nouveau [12:12] Nouveau is an experimental open-source nVidia driver, aiming for full 3d support. Homepage at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/ - EXPERIMENTAL packages at https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~raof/+archive [12:12] aaah another repo to add [12:12] Yes. They can't be in offcical gutsy, 'cause they'll break other drivers. [12:13] RAOF: think I will skip it I have enough breakage to deal with right now [12:13] just had my kernel image do a flaming homer [12:13] Linux_Galore: Fair enough. Just remember, there's an xrandr-1.2 branch there, for multihead goodness :) [12:15] RAOF: I think its a great project, might resurect another machine and try it [12:16] I'll also package some of the reverse-engineering tools into that PPA, if you don't want to test the actual drivers. [12:16] Keep an eye on it :) [12:16] right now I have to figure out why glib keeps making openoffice crash === JenFraggle [n=jen@91.84.43.217] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SirPing [n=krister@81-231-247-85-no29.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:30] is there a special lowlatency feisty git tree? [12:30] When I want to recompile the lowlatency kernel flavour form ubuntu-feisty.git, it seems like debian/config/i386/config.lowlatency is missing. [12:31] I know feisty is not ubuntu+1 but ... [12:31] humbol1: all the trees are listed in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ [12:31] * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git [12:32] Does not show a special lowlatency tree, that's why I am asking and wondering what is wrong. [12:33] The lowlatency stuff is from ubuntu-studio but they are part of the normal repositories. [12:37] i gave you an answer in #ubuntustudio [12:37] the config file is in a special location [12:37] linking it to where its needs to be is a good idea === der0b [n=s0d_0ff@c-66-31-142-244.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=chard@ip68-98-192-143.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === frying_fish [n=frying_f@ACBC8A27.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sten [n=sten@c-4a45e055.1015-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Lmnar"] === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claria [n=aem@dslb-084-057-136-190.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-162-129.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-14-216.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === stdin [n=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-14-216.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@124.82.22.83] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi_ [n=compengi@77.42.177.149] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@168.Red-88-8-241.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-6.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mark007 [n=mark007@pool-71-101-200-240.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RadiantFire [n=ryan@64.203.238.119.static-pool-3.pool.hargray.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Igorots [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:36] !find linux-rt [01:36] Found: linux-rt [01:36] !info linux-rt [01:36] linux-rt: Complete Linux kernel on realtime kernel. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.6.22.9.10 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:43] gah! [01:43] two days I was trying to test gusty 4 and thought my new 8600 did not work. What did not work was my dvdrw drive, burn out :P [01:44] it simply stops to read correctly when it gets warm [01:50] thats kind of odd [01:51] yeah, but annoying enough, I was suspicious when I saw that the install worked once or two and checked the logs, many io errors. [01:51] plugged another drive and everything works, install running now :) === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:13] could someone help me find out why the new rhythmbox version fails to show up in my repositories? 0.11.1 should be available but apt-get doesnt really shows me newer version being available then 0.10.0 [02:19] Do``, what does apt-cache policy rhythmbox show you? [02:21] Installed: 0.10.0-0ubuntu2 / Candidate: 0.10.0-0ubuntu2 [02:21] can someone help me figure out why my clock is losing about 1 hour/day for the past few days? [02:22] the battery in your motherboard needs replacement :) [02:22] :P [02:23] is that enough information from the policy output? [02:23] yeah [02:24] what repo are you using? I mean the country code? [02:24] http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com [02:24] someone over #rhythmbox on irc.gimp.net said 7.10 should have 0.11.1 in the repo, his gusty has it too [02:25] Do``, try editing /etc/apt/sources.list and using http://archive.ubuntu.com remove all the hu then save changes and run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [02:27] which type do i need to remove the hu. from? main universe restricted or multiverse? [02:27] all [02:27] alright [02:29] didnt help === roshan_s [n=roshan@122.162.115.39] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:30] the only upgrade it found was wine 0.9.42 -> 0.9.43 === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:31] that is strange [02:31] very [02:32] it still shows 0.10.0 as the candidate as well as the installed version [02:32] is there any other way i can just simply download the .deb file and install it? [02:34] Do``: little check, have you ran a apt-get update after the sources modication? [02:34] twice :) [02:34] :) [02:35] Do``, you can get the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com === arpu_ [n=arpu@p54BFC9D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:37] hm. i'll try googling the correct url for it then === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:39] Do``, that is the correct url [02:39] that page doesn't load [02:40] lemme try [02:40] Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at packages.ubuntu.com. [02:41] that page may be down at the momment [02:41] they might be uploading new packages/ making changes to the page [02:41] give it a little time [02:42] alright [02:44] thanks for all the help :) i'll check back in an hour === ryanakca_ [n=ryanakca@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:52] hm, found a direct link to it [02:52] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/rhythmbox/rhythmbox_0.11.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb <- this one [02:52] but i cant install it because 'error: dependency not satisfiable libart-2.0-2' [02:52] yup thats the one [02:53] which i cant install because there's no package called like that [02:54] libart-2.0-2 or libart-2.0-dev === ohad [n=ohad@cpe-69-203-27-50.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:55] libart-2.0-dev installed, but the error message remains the same [02:55] E: Couldn't find package libart-2.0 / E: Couldn't find package libart-2 [02:55] Do``, have you used any third party installers like Automatirx on your system? [02:55] hi, need help with wireless + and suspend - running feisty 2.6.22-9 generic - thinkpad x61s. it works but being flaky. ideas how to fix wireless first? [02:56] IdleOne: none === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:56] Do``, the package is called libart-2.0-2 [02:57] i still cant install it.. [02:58] sorry Do`` I dont understand why. best I can tell you is to keep explaining your issue and someone will be able to help you at some point [02:59] after having installed the -dev version === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.127.167] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:59] now when i type it says it's already installed [02:59] libart-2.0-2 is already the newest version. [02:59] however the error message is the same.. === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:07] anyone? === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:09] sometimes when I play a video in vlcplayer, X crashes [03:10] chances are X logs can help === Keeper [i=Keeper@unaffiliated/keeper] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:12] jeroenvrp: use mplayer [03:14] I watch video files all the time and I have yet to use vlc === yellow_chicken [n=goldenpi@cpe-66-8-235-245.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:15] what's with the tribes 3 and 4? [03:17] Linux_Galore: when I compile mplayer from svn, it gives the same crash [03:17] si I suppose it's an x-problem [03:17] and under feisty it gives no crash [03:17] so it must be a gutsy problem also [03:17] oh well I will report a bug === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:26] yellow_chicken, what do you mean? [03:26] when don;t they call them alpha 3 and 4 anymore? IdleOne [03:27] yellow_chicken, I am guessing that Gutsy GIBBONS live in tribes [03:27] feisty fawn had herds === johnnybuoy [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-5342f56146f216f4] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:27] ok === yellow_chicken [n=goldenpi@cpe-66-8-235-245.hawaii.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === ohad [n=ohad@cpe-69-203-27-50.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:56] Bug #131995 [03:56] Launchpad bug 131995 in xorg "playing a video in various players crashes X or KDE in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131995 === ohad [n=ohad@cpe-69-203-27-50.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@213.251.133.67] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has left #ubuntu+1 ["The] === fdv [i=1988@en.ifi.uio.no] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.50.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bballizlife [n=bballizl@ALyon-158-1-126-42.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu+1 ["hoopa] === Siph0n [n=Siph0n@c-68-45-54-91.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === theverant [n=thev@hlfxns0145w-142167142160.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:40] what's the easiest way to share folders via Samba? [04:52] theverant: right click, share folder. === JenFraggle [n=jen@91.84.43.217] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:53] I tried right clicking and adding a SMB share that way - but I can't even see this system on the network, it's not showing up in the workgroup to which I assigned it [04:54] then go to it's IP. [04:54] duh. I should have thought of that [04:55] "Could not connect to host [04:56] I had no problems with this in Kubuntu feisty... :| But I'm gnew to gnome so it's a bit of a learning curve [04:56] no idea... Check that samba is running, can you ping? is the host firewalled? [04:56] I didn't firewall it... I wonder if something was installed automatically? [04:57] yeah I can ping my desktop from the laptop [04:57] is samba running? [04:58] ... I think so... it's installed. How can I check if it's up? [04:58] if you used firestarter, you need to add 139 [04:58] /etc/init.d/samba start [05:00] I don't know what firestarter is, so...I don't think I used it === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-181-89.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-181-89.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:03] samba is definitely running now... but still the desktop isn't showing up on the network [05:04] trying the IP just gives me a timeout [05:04] firestarter isn't installed === johnnybuoy [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-b3437f7ca47302ad] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi [n=compengi@77.42.177.99] has joined #ubuntu+1 === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-149-101-35.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sdest [n=sdest@c-69-250-163-18.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bderrly [n=bderrly@68-113-34-207.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:29] hey, is the "splash" option in grub default with feisty/gutsy? if so, why does my config not specify a splash image to use and yet has the splash option enabled for every kernel? [05:30] my box will not boot with the splash option enabled and i'm not sure if it is because there isn't a splash file specified in menu.lst or because of my nvidia 8800 not getting along with the splash screen [05:31] the later is true [05:31] besides that getting the 8x serie up and working is a real pain. [05:31] yes it was/is, but i've got it working fine with X, just not grub [05:31] ah? [05:32] I have a 8600 and I'm about to throw it through the window... [05:32] if i remove the splash option it boots to gdm and the system is completely usable (compiz/beryl don't work so well though) [05:32] "nv" works not nvidia binaries (true acc.) [05:32] i'm using nvidia driver [05:32] which version do you use? [05:33] Version: 1.0.9755+2.6.22.2-9.7 [05:33] nvidia-glx-new package [05:34] from ubuntu repository? [05:34] yep [05:34] let me try, did not use this one until now [05:35] but latest from nvidia does not work and default nvidia neither [05:35] hmm === leperkhanz [n=rhy@ip68-111-203-36.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip70-177-204-60.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi [n=compengi@63-216-115-230.sdsl.cais.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claria [n=aem@dslb-084-057-136-190.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrsno [n=mrsno@cpc3-blfs3-0-0-cust868.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jiphex [n=james@spc1-ward1-0-0-cust414.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === JenFraggle [n=jen@91.84.43.217] has joined #ubuntu+1 === archis_ [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.127.167] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has joined #ubuntu+1 === c01100011 [n=c0110001@ool-45711402.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:35] hendrick.kaju.pri is down is there another repo for screenlets ? === darkstar61 [n=darkstar@213-140-6-100.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 === OSUKid7 [n=OSUKid7@acm.bw.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi [n=compengi@63-216-114-242.sdsl.cais.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jiphex [n=james@spc1-ward1-0-0-cust414.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DShepherd [n=dwight@72.252.133.65] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bsheep [n=bsheep@ANantes-252-1-54-18.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jacob [n=jacobmp@ubuntu/member/jacob] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.218] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DreamThi1f [n=mathias@gateway.3vilh4x0r.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DreamThief [n=mathias@unaffiliated/dreamthief] has joined #ubuntu+1 === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h16n6c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DreamThi1f [n=mathias@gateway.3vilh4x0r.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === frying_fish [n=frying_f@ACBC8A27.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:47]