[10:13] <Jordan_U> cjae_, So just to make sure, the computer doesn't boot right now, correct?
[10:14] <Jordan_U> Or rather Ubuntu doesn't boot correctly
[10:14] <cjae_> Jordan_U, no boots fine
[10:14] <cjae_> just seeing fail messges during reboot that want to clear up
[10:15] <cjae_> want to know the differences between the two quiets in menu.lst
[10:16] <cjae_> I see I failed during reboot and tried to see what it is in line with and think it was firestarter
[10:16] <Jordan_U> cjae_, Oh, you can ignore my comment on chrooting then, what two quiets?
[10:17] <cjae_> there is a quiet in kernel boot options by splash
[10:17] <cjae_> and there is a quiet under or above initrd
[10:18] <cjae_> the fail messages is why I wanted rid of the dumb splash screens
[10:19] <cjae_> does removing splash also remove the reboot splash screen?
[10:19] <Jordan_U> Yes
[10:19] <Jordan_U> I don't have any quiet option for my initrd line and I have never seen one before
[10:19] <cjae_> I am using xubuntu
[10:20] <cjae_> sorry might be specific to that
[10:20] <cjae_> that channel is basically dead
[10:20] <Jordan_U> I can't see how it would be
[10:20] <cjae_> while quiet at least
[10:21] <Jordan_U> cjae_, removing splash should let you see any errors at boot, does it?
[10:22] <cjae_> my menu.lst goes downward title, root, kernel, quiet, initrd
[10:23] <cjae_> like column direction
[10:23] <cjae_> yes was just wondering if it is true for term/rebooting
[10:24] <Jordan_U> I am not sure what you are asking
[10:25] <cjae_> You know how there is splash at boot and one at shutdown?
[10:25] <cjae_> I want to know if removing splash removes one at shutdown
[10:26] <Jordan_U> Yes, it does
[10:26] <cjae_> ok maybe then I may see the fail messages properly is there a way to find this out without rebooting?
[10:27] <cjae_> I tried dmesg|tail
[10:28] <Jordan_U> cjae_, I am not sure
[10:29] <cjae_> hey you know where I can find help about QoS
[10:31] <cjae_> on a router with ddwrt
[10:34] <Jordan_U> Not off hand