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| pygi | Lutin, fixes found, will soon be uploaded | 01:11 |
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| Lutin | pygi: cool :) | 01:16 |
| pygi | Lutin, thanks for your patience :) | 01:16 |
| Lutin | np | 01:16 |
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| === pygi deserves some rest when they are uploaded since it's 1:16AM :P | ||
| pygi | hey doko ! | 01:17 |
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| pygi | xhaker, now yes | 08:30 |
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| khermans_ | packages.ubuntu.com is down | 09:36 |
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| sivang | hey Spads | 12:59 |
| sivang | Spads: are you allowed / have access to domain name services provided by canonical? I've opened an RT ticket long ago to have a couple of loco domains managed by ns.ubuntu.com and the blackcatnetworks DNSs still no reply | 01:00 |
| sivang | I at least want to know the status for the request :) | 01:00 |
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| jamiemcc | pitti:tribe 4 did not install esound by default - was this deliberate or bug? | 01:30 |
| jamiemcc | without esound all gnome/gtk apps were slowed trying to spawn it | 01:30 |
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| jamiemcc | tracker-search-tool was slowed considerably by it - installing esound resolved speed issues | 01:30 |
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| pitti | hey jamiemcc | 01:32 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: yes, we are sooo glad to have killed esound | 01:32 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: esd really sucks, and we only kept it for libgnome | 01:33 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: but I finally managed to make libgnome work without esd | 01:33 |
| jamiemcc | pitti : cool | 01:33 |
| Fujitsu | Oh, it's finally dead? | 01:33 |
| jamiemcc | pitti: is that libgnome in gutsy yet? | 01:33 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: why is it slowed down? | 01:33 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: yes, sure | 01:34 |
| jamiemcc | pitti: run tracker-search-tool from terminal | 01:34 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: through libgnome, or does tracker use libesd directly? | 01:34 |
| jamiemcc | no anything using gtk is affected | 01:34 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: ah, I see | 01:34 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: that's on my list | 01:34 |
| jamiemcc | tracker searches take fraction of a second but wtihotu wesound they take 2-3 secs | 01:34 |
| jamiemcc | disabling esd in sound preferences all restores speed | 01:35 |
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| jamiemcc | all/also | 01:35 |
| jamiemcc | I find all gtk apps are faster with esound too | 01:36 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: oh, I see | 01:36 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: that's indeed a good general point | 01:36 |
| jamiemcc | shall I file a bug in lauchpad? | 01:36 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: that would be nice | 01:37 |
| jamiemcc | ok will do so now | 01:37 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: please give me the # afterwards, I'll mark it as tribe5 and assign it to me | 01:37 |
| jamiemcc | shall I file against esound? | 01:37 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: libgnome please | 01:38 |
| jamiemcc | ok | 01:38 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: oh, I just tried it myself; indeed, that's an amazing difference | 01:38 |
| jamiemcc | yeah :) | 01:38 |
| jamiemcc | gutsy now runnig as fast as feisty now | 01:38 |
| jamiemcc | pitti: libgnome not in launchpad? | 01:40 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgnome/+bugs | 01:40 |
| pitti | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgnome/+bug/115652 | 01:41 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 115652 in libgnome "evince tries to open esd even if it is not installed" [Low,Confirmed] | 01:41 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: ^ that's more or less it | 01:41 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: let me mangle that | 01:41 |
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| jamiemcc | piti: ahh ok | 01:41 |
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| pitti | jamiemcc: there | 01:42 |
| jamiemcc | pitti: thx | 01:43 |
| pitti | jamiemcc: thanks to you for pointing this out | 01:45 |
| jamiemcc | no problem - I was scrathcing my head wondering why tracker-search-tool was so slow! | 01:46 |
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| norsetto | I see. This also explains this then: /bin/sh: O_PASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS/usr/bin/esd: not found | 03:24 |
| norsetto | /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found | 03:24 |
| Amaranth | O_O | 03:29 |
| ijuz_ | it's probably a good idea anyway to delete esd, directly after deleting artsd ;) | 03:30 |
| stgraber | lots of software complain in log files about missing esd (it was replaced by alsa in gnome, but manually and there are some remaining changes to do for sure :)) | 03:31 |
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| _StefanS_ | anyone know how to build two source packages that depend on eachother? | 03:32 |
| _StefanS_ | like libxml-parser-perl and libxml-encoding-perl ? | 03:32 |
| xhaker | pygi, hi | 03:38 |
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| jdong | bleck Dapper is affected by debian bug #321718 | 05:24 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 321718 in libc6 "Upgrade caused many libs to complain about "executable stack"" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/321718 | 05:24 |
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| jdong | sucks for PaX users.... oh well, Feisty time | 05:24 |
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| alex-weej | is it just my system or is VPN totally broken in Gutsy? | 07:07 |
| alex-weej | NM just crashes whenever i try to log on | 07:07 |
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| xhaker | pygi, you available yet? | 08:02 |
| pygi | xhaker, hardly :-/ | 08:02 |
| pygi | how may I help? | 08:02 |
| xhaker | have you read what i told you about amarok + libmtp6? | 08:03 |
| pygi | that a maintainer said no changes needed? | 08:04 |
| xhaker | "Not many apps | 08:04 |
| xhaker | use this, I believe only Amarok, and they have some compile-time or similar check for it." | 08:04 |
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| xhaker | well, i've built new packages for amarok and tested them | 08:05 |
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| xhaker | everything works, apparently :) | 08:05 |
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| Riddell | pitti: should I send out a "feature freeze soon" notice? | 09:06 |
| === highvoltage hugs pitti (because laserjock sed I must) | ||
| pitti | Riddell: I think for two-week tribes, ten days in advance is a bit too much | 09:07 |
| === pitti hugs highvoltage back | ||
| highvoltage | :) | 09:07 |
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| === norsetto bows to the almighty | ||
| zul | hey pitti | 09:25 |
| pitti | hi zul | 09:27 |
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| Lutin | hey pitti | 09:31 |
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| moquist | pitti: ogra has pointed me to you to discuss a postinst script to set up a new postgres user and database (for the moddle package, which unfortunately comes from upstream using wwwconfig). Are you around to discuss this? | 09:36 |
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| pitti | moquist: about to go to bed; can you please mail me? | 09:37 |
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| moquist | pitti: OK. sleep well. | 09:38 |
| pitti | thanks! | 09:38 |
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| Kmos | want to know about a nice crash? on console.. "c.. & cd .." and it closes terminal | 09:43 |
| Kmos | *bug | 09:43 |
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| Kmos | it happens only sometimes.. | 09:46 |
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| Kopfgeldjaeger | is there a changelog for the ubuntu packages? i mean, changes in package x | 11:32 |
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| ijuz_ | 7usr/share/doc/<package> | 11:35 |
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| Kopfgeldjaeger | ijuz_: im mean, available in the internet - im looking for changes in a gutsy package | 11:40 |
| ijuz_ | afaik not, just download it | 11:40 |
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| Kopfgeldjaeger | aah | 11:43 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/utils/bcm43xx-fwcutter --> more information --> changelog | 11:43 |
| jdong | Kopfgeldjaeger: changelogs.ubuntu.com | 11:43 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | hehe :o) | 11:44 |
| ijuz_ | ah, cool | 11:44 |
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| jdong | yeah p.u.c points to it too | 11:44 |
| jdong | it tends to lag a day or two though | 11:44 |
| jdong | hence I just aptitude source, then look at the changelog | 11:44 |
| asac | pygi: did you do the gnash upload? | 11:45 |
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| Kopfgeldjaeger | er... why does searching for "restricted manager" at PUC result in a error message? | 11:46 |
| pygi | asac, my fault, yes | 11:46 |
| asac | pygi: please ping me next time | 11:46 |
| pygi | asac, will do, sorry | 11:46 |
| asac | pygi: please bring up your changes to bzr | 11:46 |
| asac | i want to review and merge to the main tree | 11:47 |
| asac | pygi: thanks ;) | 11:47 |
| pygi | asac, oki, but I gotta fix the upload first (I think the upgrade is broken because of ubuntu3, and gotta fix that in prerm) | 11:47 |
| asac | pygi: please do bzr first | 11:47 |
| asac | then ask me | 11:47 |
| asac | try to redo the uploads if possible | 11:48 |
| asac | if not ... fine :/ | 11:48 |
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| asac | pygi: pleas do that before the upload ;) | 11:48 |
| pygi | asac, ofcourse, don't worry ;) | 11:48 |
| asac | ok great | 11:49 |
| pygi | I learn fast, you know xD | 11:49 |
| asac | pygi: actually i do not even know that something broke ... just saw uploads ;) | 11:52 |
| asac | pygi: so what is broken atm? | 11:52 |
| pygi | asac, upgrade from ubuntu3 | 11:53 |
| pygi | asac, requires a prerm modification in the package so we'd fix that for users | 11:53 |
| pygi | (and ofcourse upgrade from ubuntu4 to (yet nonexistant) ubuntu5 would fail unless we do such modification | 11:54 |
| asac | please tell me one sentence of details ... why does it fail, how? | 11:54 |
| pygi | ok, it fails because ubuntu3 had a broken prerm/postinst (it had single quotes, it shouldn't have quotes at all) | 11:55 |
| pygi | it fails while configuring the package, and stays at half-configured state | 11:55 |
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| pygi | ubuntu4 has fixed the prerm/postinst, but upgrade still fails because the prerm should have been modified to fix the upgrade path | 11:57 |
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