| laga | re | 01:19 |
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| Daviey | superm1: ping | 08:53 |
| superm1 | hey Daviey | 08:53 |
| superm1 | i spoke with brandon again today | 08:54 |
| Daviey | you are up late/ealry | 08:54 |
| superm1 | and he filled me in on it all | 08:54 |
| superm1 | late.... | 08:54 |
| superm1 | i'll be hitting the sack in a bit likely | 08:54 |
| Daviey | i phoned him uo yesterday | 08:54 |
| Daviey | he told me he was having problems with the switch or something | 08:54 |
| Daviey | The yanky accent has kinda hard to follow :) | 08:55 |
| superm1 | haha | 08:55 |
| superm1 | well i spoke to him the day before you | 08:55 |
| superm1 | right before i started to load up the truck to get moving | 08:55 |
| Daviey | you're moving house again? | 08:56 |
| superm1 | haha | 08:56 |
| superm1 | yup | 08:56 |
| superm1 | just did | 08:56 |
| Daviey | nicer than the old place? | 08:58 |
| superm1 | well just another place | 08:58 |
| superm1 | to finish up my last semester here at the uni | 08:58 |
| Daviey | you job has finished? | 08:58 |
| Daviey | your* | 08:59 |
| superm1 | well yes and no | 08:59 |
| superm1 | because it got extended through the semester part time | 08:59 |
| superm1 | but formally finished that part of the work | 08:59 |
| Daviey | cool | 08:59 |
| superm1 | but in any which case, i do need to get to bed | 09:01 |
| superm1 | i'll catch you tomorrow or so | 09:01 |
| Daviey | must have only been a couple of months tho? | 09:01 |
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| Daviey | nn | 09:02 |
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| DaveMorris | I got this comment on my blog - "the installer doesn't work for me as the mythbuntu site is down, anything I should do to fix this?" - how come it depends on mythbuntu.org? I'm guessing they should do an instal without a network connection, but will it still setup network for once it's installed? | 10:49 |
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| laga | re | 01:39 |
| laga | DaveMorris: AFAIK it needs to etch some packages from there... or at least it tries to | 01:40 |
| laga | DaveMorris: are your the documentation guy? | 01:48 |
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| laga | gah | 02:44 |
| laga | i'd need "timeouts for dialogs" in zenity *now* and not in gnome 2.20 | 02:45 |
| laga | sleep 5 | zenity --progress it is then | 02:54 |
| laga | *sigh* | 02:54 |
| laga | i extended mythtv-setup.sh a bit. now it'll ask you if you want to open the documentation on the second virtual desktop if you start mythtv-setup. | 03:51 |
| laga | http://laga.ath.cx/mythtv-setup-open-documentation.jpg <- screenshot | 03:51 |
| laga | what do you think? | 03:51 |
| laga | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty | 04:00 |
| laga | ^^ some of the anchors there are broken | 04:00 |
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| Paladine | anyone in here got any experience with dual tuner dvb-s cards? | 04:32 |
| laga | anyone in here got any experience with meta questions? | 04:32 |
| laga | yes, i'm everywhere ;) | 04:32 |
| laga | Paladine: have you checked the linuxtv ressources yet? | 04:34 |
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| laga | hey superm1 | 07:04 |
| laga | superm1: http://www.pastebin.ca/654649 - what do you think about this patch? | 07:06 |
| laga | superm1: it'll open the mythtv docs when you start mythtv-setup | 07:07 |
| superm1 | well it adds a dependency of firefox | 07:07 |
| superm1 | so that would still need to be included | 07:07 |
| laga | it does not if you look closely | 07:08 |
| laga | if neither firefox nor mythbrowser are installed it won't do anything | 07:08 |
| laga | it adds a dependency on wmctrl (until i can figure out a way to send it to the second virtual desktop on openbox itself) | 07:08 |
| superm1 | windows + f2? | 07:09 |
| laga | but wmctrl is not big | 07:09 |
| superm1 | what does that do? | 07:09 |
| laga | superm1: it jumps to the second virtual deskto | 07:09 |
| laga | p | 07:09 |
| superm1 | er nothing on my machine | 07:09 |
| laga | the idea is to be able to switch between mythtv-setup and the docs easily | 07:09 |
| superm1 | on both of my gnome desktops it appears to not do anything? | 07:09 |
| laga | superm1: that's an openbox keybindung | 07:09 |
| laga | s/bindung/binding/ | 07:09 |
| superm1 | well what if its not launched under openbox? | 07:09 |
| laga | i can test for that ;) | 07:10 |
| superm1 | okay well one other worry | 07:10 |
| superm1 | if the user opens it | 07:10 |
| superm1 | then it will stay open | 07:10 |
| superm1 | when mythtv-setup is closed | 07:10 |
| laga | two different cases. a) mythbuntu: user will log out ater some time, especially if he's logged in as an user other than mythtv to do maintenance | 07:11 |
| laga | b) ubuntu: user uses common sense and his mouse to close the window | 07:12 |
| superm1 | well if its on a different virtual desktop | 07:18 |
| superm1 | it can easily be overlooked | 07:18 |
| superm1 | and the issue with use case 1, we're gonna switch over to everythign in normal user | 07:18 |
| superm1 | after the control centre is done | 07:18 |
| superm1 | and the control centre will be an option in the frontend | 07:18 |
| laga | my two main concerns are: zenity does not yet support timeouts, that's why i'm using sleep 10 | zenity which will show a dialog window for 10 seconds.. but even if you abort, it'll wait 10s before starting the frontend | 07:20 |
| laga | launching a GTK app from mythfrontend? ugly, IMHO. | 07:20 |
| laga | especially because i cannot be controlled via lirc | 07:20 |
| laga | that's why i'd keep the separate user | 07:20 |
| superm1 | well this can later be ported to QT | 07:22 |
| laga | how would that help? still no LIRC, still a desktop-ish look & feel | 07:22 |
| superm1 | although i didn't write it that way that it would be easy, it would be doable | 07:22 |
| superm1 | well perhaps that option in myth for the control centre can issue a logout command | 07:23 |
| laga | unless we'd add a control centre handler to the lirc generation stuff | 07:23 |
| superm1 | there is | 07:23 |
| superm1 | for lirc generation | 07:23 |
| laga | i meant the other way around: generate a lircrc for use with irxevent to control the control centre | 07:23 |
| laga | we could always use libmythui to write a control centre, but that's got PITA written all over it | 07:24 |
| superm1 | http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmythbuntucontsb3.png | 07:24 |
| superm1 | oh yea it would | 07:24 |
| superm1 | well i was thinking | 07:24 |
| superm1 | the control centre can query if VNC is running | 07:24 |
| superm1 | and if not, launch it with the control centre | 07:24 |
| laga | that would require an additional computer to be available | 07:25 |
| superm1 | right | 07:25 |
| superm1 | but really a lot of the things in the control centre atm would only work well with a mouse | 07:26 |
| laga | hrm | 07:27 |
| laga | humpf | 07:27 |
| laga | lircmd? | 07:29 |
| laga | LIRC mouse daemon - translates infrared signals into mouse events | 07:30 |
| laga | dcop support for the control centre? | 07:33 |
| laga | there's a python-dcop package | 07:33 |
| laga | superm1: lircmd could be interesting. | 07:35 |
| laga | " I recommend that you use a special button to activate the mouse daemon with this command. You will see whenever the daemon is activated/deactivated directly on the screen. If you omit this command the daemon will always be active. | 07:36 |
| laga | " | 07:36 |
| superm1 | Well mouse daemon? | 07:36 |
| superm1 | how does that work well i wonder | 07:36 |
| laga | it's very hard to glue everything together properly | 07:36 |
| superm1 | indeed | 07:38 |
| superm1 | also i'd say that should be optional | 07:38 |
| superm1 | to open the documentation | 07:38 |
| superm1 | and if a kill signal can be sent to the web browser that was opened | 07:38 |
| superm1 | when mythtv-setup.real is killed | 07:39 |
| superm1 | it'd be feasible | 07:39 |
| superm1 | i'll be back in a bit though, i'm gonna eat some lunch | 07:39 |
| laga | it is optional to open the documentation. if you hit "abort" it's not opened | 07:39 |
| laga | i'll improve the script later, gotta run too | 07:40 |
| laga | there is a problem with just killing the browser - firefox will open a new tab if there's already an instance running. | 07:52 |
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| AMD-ubuntuPOWEo | hi | 08:36 |
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| jams | laga..yes a control center using libmythui would be a pita | 08:37 |
| laga | jams: you're doing it, right? :) | 08:38 |
| jams | well yeah..but it's still a pita | 08:38 |
| AMD-ubuntuPOWEo | you guys use mythweb ? | 08:39 |
| jams | those screens are so dang touchy and position and what not | 08:39 |
| laga | AMD-ubuntuPOWEo: maybe | 08:40 |
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| AMD-ubuntuPOWEo | well you should its great | 08:56 |
| laga | i know ;) | 08:56 |
| AMD-ubuntuPOWEo | any way laga..... | 09:08 |
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| chuk | is there a way to burn an ISO from within myth? | 09:41 |
| chuk | I can't seem to find it | 09:41 |
| chuk | I assume its in mytharchive, but I couldn't find it | 09:42 |
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| xxZinnx | ello | 10:01 |
| xxZinnx | ... | 10:01 |
| xxZinnx | anyone there? | 10:01 |
| xxZinnx | i need some suggestions on an hd frontend box | 10:01 |
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| laga | xxZinnx: #mythtv-users | 10:30 |
| laga | chuk: i have never seen such a thing | 10:31 |
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| tampafl | "sorry mythtv not allowed to execute /usr/bin/xxx as root on mythtc" sudo does not work either | 11:30 |
| laga | sorry to hear that | 11:31 |
| tampafl | yeah, sucks. want to do something other than myth today. any suggestions? | 11:31 |
| laga | no | 11:32 |
| laga | i don't know what your problem is | 11:32 |
| tampafl | lol ;) | 11:32 |
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| tampafl | lilo menu does not alwasy come up on boot | 11:34 |
| tampafl | ok , now lilo menu with 2 ooptions...yesterday there were like 3 kernels to pick from! | 11:35 |
| laga | mythbuntu does not use lilo | 11:37 |
| laga | you must be using a non-standard config | 11:37 |
| tampafl | ooops wrong room, using knoppixmyth | 11:38 |
| tampafl | sorry. | 11:38 |
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| jams | heh thats a bit of a mistake | 12:17 |
| Paladine | whats the recommended minimum hardware for a slave backend? | 12:20 |
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| DaveMorris | superm1: we got an eta for mythbuntu to be backup or do we need to start moving it to another server within ubuntu ? | 12:26 |
| Paladine | hey DaveMorris | 12:26 |
| DaveMorris | hey Paladine | 12:26 |
| Paladine | fancy seeing you here | 12:27 |
| DaveMorris | I'm here more often than ubuntu-uk :) | 12:27 |
| Paladine | hey you running a dvb-s setup? | 12:27 |
| DaveMorris | afraid not, txwigger is though, he should be back from holoiday tomorrow | 12:28 |
| Paladine | trying to figure out which would be the best cards to buy | 12:28 |
| Paladine | I need 4 | 12:28 |
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| Paladine | at 11:30pm? | 12:30 |
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