[01:19] re === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mythtv.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Topic for #ubuntu-mythtv: "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: Website is DOWN. Alpha 3 is available at http://mirror.polorix.net/index.php?dir=Mythbuntu in the meanwhile :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV" === Topic (#ubuntu-mythtv): set by superm1 at Mon Aug 6 19:26:44 2007 === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mythtv.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Topic for #ubuntu-mythtv: "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: Website is DOWN. Alpha 3 is available at http://mirror.polorix.net/index.php?dir=Mythbuntu in the meanwhile :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV" === Topic (#ubuntu-mythtv): set by superm1 at Mon Aug 6 19:26:44 2007 [08:53] superm1: ping [08:53] hey Daviey [08:54] i spoke with brandon again today [08:54] you are up late/ealry [08:54] and he filled me in on it all [08:54] late.... [08:54] i'll be hitting the sack in a bit likely [08:54] i phoned him uo yesterday [08:54] he told me he was having problems with the switch or something [08:55] The yanky accent has kinda hard to follow :) [08:55] haha [08:55] well i spoke to him the day before you [08:55] right before i started to load up the truck to get moving [08:56] you're moving house again? [08:56] haha [08:56] yup [08:56] just did [08:58] nicer than the old place? [08:58] well just another place [08:58] to finish up my last semester here at the uni [08:58] you job has finished? [08:59] your* [08:59] well yes and no [08:59] because it got extended through the semester part time [08:59] but formally finished that part of the work [08:59] cool [09:01] but in any which case, i do need to get to bed [09:01] i'll catch you tomorrow or so [09:01] must have only been a couple of months tho? === bmathis [n=bmathis@c-71-195-113-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:02] nn === bmathis [n=bmathis@c-71-195-113-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === bmathis [n=bmathis@c-71-195-113-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [10:49] I got this comment on my blog - "the installer doesn't work for me as the mythbuntu site is down, anything I should do to fix this?" - how come it depends on mythbuntu.org? I'm guessing they should do an instal without a network connection, but will it still setup network for once it's installed? === Rimers [n=nils@0x5553320b.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Nixus_Maximus [n=simon@i577B556A.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:39] re [01:40] DaveMorris: AFAIK it needs to etch some packages from there... or at least it tries to [01:48] DaveMorris: are your the documentation guy? === HolidayB [n=Brat@adsl-75-63-77-17.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:44] gah [02:45] i'd need "timeouts for dialogs" in zenity *now* and not in gnome 2.20 [02:54] sleep 5 | zenity --progress it is then [02:54] *sigh* [03:51] i extended mythtv-setup.sh a bit. now it'll ask you if you want to open the documentation on the second virtual desktop if you start mythtv-setup. [03:51] http://laga.ath.cx/mythtv-setup-open-documentation.jpg <- screenshot [03:51] what do you think? [04:00] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty [04:00] ^^ some of the anchors there are broken === Paladine [n=Paladine@paladine.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:32] anyone in here got any experience with dual tuner dvb-s cards? [04:32] anyone in here got any experience with meta questions? [04:32] yes, i'm everywhere ;) [04:34] Paladine: have you checked the linuxtv ressources yet? === Tari [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:04] hey superm1 [07:06] superm1: http://www.pastebin.ca/654649 - what do you think about this patch? [07:07] superm1: it'll open the mythtv docs when you start mythtv-setup [07:07] well it adds a dependency of firefox [07:07] so that would still need to be included [07:08] it does not if you look closely [07:08] if neither firefox nor mythbrowser are installed it won't do anything [07:08] it adds a dependency on wmctrl (until i can figure out a way to send it to the second virtual desktop on openbox itself) [07:09] windows + f2? [07:09] but wmctrl is not big [07:09] what does that do? [07:09] superm1: it jumps to the second virtual deskto [07:09] p [07:09] er nothing on my machine [07:09] the idea is to be able to switch between mythtv-setup and the docs easily [07:09] on both of my gnome desktops it appears to not do anything? [07:09] superm1: that's an openbox keybindung [07:09] s/bindung/binding/ [07:09] well what if its not launched under openbox? [07:10] i can test for that ;) [07:10] okay well one other worry [07:10] if the user opens it [07:10] then it will stay open [07:10] when mythtv-setup is closed [07:11] two different cases. a) mythbuntu: user will log out ater some time, especially if he's logged in as an user other than mythtv to do maintenance [07:12] b) ubuntu: user uses common sense and his mouse to close the window [07:18] well if its on a different virtual desktop [07:18] it can easily be overlooked [07:18] and the issue with use case 1, we're gonna switch over to everythign in normal user [07:18] after the control centre is done [07:18] and the control centre will be an option in the frontend [07:20] my two main concerns are: zenity does not yet support timeouts, that's why i'm using sleep 10 | zenity which will show a dialog window for 10 seconds.. but even if you abort, it'll wait 10s before starting the frontend [07:20] launching a GTK app from mythfrontend? ugly, IMHO. [07:20] especially because i cannot be controlled via lirc [07:20] that's why i'd keep the separate user [07:22] well this can later be ported to QT [07:22] how would that help? still no LIRC, still a desktop-ish look & feel [07:22] although i didn't write it that way that it would be easy, it would be doable [07:23] well perhaps that option in myth for the control centre can issue a logout command [07:23] unless we'd add a control centre handler to the lirc generation stuff [07:23] there is [07:23] for lirc generation [07:23] i meant the other way around: generate a lircrc for use with irxevent to control the control centre [07:24] we could always use libmythui to write a control centre, but that's got PITA written all over it [07:24] http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmythbuntucontsb3.png [07:24] oh yea it would [07:24] well i was thinking [07:24] the control centre can query if VNC is running [07:24] and if not, launch it with the control centre [07:25] that would require an additional computer to be available [07:25] right [07:26] but really a lot of the things in the control centre atm would only work well with a mouse [07:27] hrm [07:27] humpf [07:29] lircmd? [07:30] LIRC mouse daemon - translates infrared signals into mouse events [07:33] dcop support for the control centre? [07:33] there's a python-dcop package [07:35] superm1: lircmd could be interesting. [07:36] " I recommend that you use a special button to activate the mouse daemon with this command. You will see whenever the daemon is activated/deactivated directly on the screen. If you omit this command the daemon will always be active. [07:36] " [07:36] Well mouse daemon? [07:36] how does that work well i wonder [07:36] it's very hard to glue everything together properly [07:38] indeed [07:38] also i'd say that should be optional [07:38] to open the documentation [07:38] and if a kill signal can be sent to the web browser that was opened [07:39] when mythtv-setup.real is killed [07:39] it'd be feasible [07:39] i'll be back in a bit though, i'm gonna eat some lunch [07:39] it is optional to open the documentation. if you hit "abort" it's not opened [07:40] i'll improve the script later, gotta run too [07:52] there is a problem with just killing the browser - firefox will open a new tab if there's already an instance running. === AMD-ubuntuPOWEo [i=opera@cpc3-stkn1-0-0-cust479.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:36] hi === bmathis [n=bmathis@c-71-195-113-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:37] laga..yes a control center using libmythui would be a pita [08:38] jams: you're doing it, right? :) [08:38] well yeah..but it's still a pita [08:39] you guys use mythweb ? [08:39] those screens are so dang touchy and position and what not [08:40] AMD-ubuntuPOWEo: maybe === bmathis [n=bmathis@c-71-195-113-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [08:56] well you should its great [08:56] i know ;) [09:08] any way laga..... === AMD-ubuntuPOWEo [i=opera@cpc3-stkn1-0-0-cust479.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === AMD-ubuntuPOWEo [i=opera@cpc3-stkn1-0-0-cust479.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:41] is there a way to burn an ISO from within myth? [09:41] I can't seem to find it [09:42] I assume its in mytharchive, but I couldn't find it === xxZinnx [n=darkmaji@72-45-31-022-dhcp.mlt.de.atlanticbb.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:01] ello [10:01] ... [10:01] anyone there? [10:01] i need some suggestions on an hd frontend box === jumpkick [n=GED@bas2-toronto47-1242398040.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving."] [10:30] xxZinnx: #mythtv-users [10:31] chuk: i have never seen such a thing === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-150.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Tari_ [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tampafl [n=joe813@165-238.207-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:30] "sorry mythtv not allowed to execute /usr/bin/xxx as root on mythtc" sudo does not work either [11:31] sorry to hear that [11:31] yeah, sucks. want to do something other than myth today. any suggestions? [11:32] no [11:32] i don't know what your problem is [11:32] lol ;) === pteague [n=patrick@ip72-213-145-156.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:34] lilo menu does not alwasy come up on boot [11:35] ok , now lilo menu with 2 ooptions...yesterday there were like 3 kernels to pick from! [11:37] mythbuntu does not use lilo [11:37] you must be using a non-standard config [11:38] ooops wrong room, using knoppixmyth [11:38] sorry. === tampafl [n=joe813@165-238.207-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === laga blinks === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-56-183.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:17] heh thats a bit of a mistake [12:20] whats the recommended minimum hardware for a slave backend? === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:26] superm1: we got an eta for mythbuntu to be backup or do we need to start moving it to another server within ubuntu ? [12:26] hey DaveMorris [12:26] hey Paladine [12:27] fancy seeing you here [12:27] I'm here more often than ubuntu-uk :) [12:27] hey you running a dvb-s setup? [12:28] afraid not, txwigger is though, he should be back from holoiday tomorrow [12:28] trying to figure out which would be the best cards to buy [12:28] I need 4 === DaveMorris time to do the dishes [12:30] at 11:30pm?