albert23instabin: I have Intel/Realtek. I need to compile alsa myself, with a special pacth12:33
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DanaGwtf?  Compiz just dimmed my firefox window.12:35
DanaGAnd now it's stuck dim.12:35
DanaGAnd the app is not frozen.12:35
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chasetoysi downloaded the nvidia drivers direct from nvidias site... how can i get rid of those in favor of nvidia-glx ?12:40
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darkstar61chasetoys: you could run the *pkg*.run with --uninstall12:45
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askandHmm..tried gutsy herd 4 recently..it doesnt find my dlink wifi card and not my intel (?!) soundcard...what has happened :S12:47
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davmor2I just want to confirm a bug if possible.  Could some one change their login screen to Human List.  Do you get any Icons to click on instead of typing in your user name?12:59
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theverantis gdesklets known to not work in Gutsy ATM?  ...or is it just me...01:14
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seiflotf1hi guys01:20
seiflotf1wanted to ask how is gutsy gibbon going01:20
seiflotf1is it very buggy01:21
seiflotf1or can i work with it01:21
theverantI'm running it right now01:21
theverantit's buggy, but seems like nothing too major01:21
seiflotf1i am familiar iwth dpkg and everything01:21
seiflotf1but still can i  do most of my work on it01:21
theverantI have no idea... what kind of work are you doing?01:21
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seiflotf1also does it still ahve that annoyign bug that when u move with ur mouse over t he tray the descitpions pop up but dont fade again01:22
seiflotf1well mostly openoffice at the moment01:22
seiflotf1and developing stuff under windows vmware01:22
theverantI have no bug with the mouse/tray01:22
seiflotf1however i want to look for bugs report and try to solve some01:22
seiflotf1what baotu empathy01:23
theverantOO is the development version 2.X01:23
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theverantso i don't think I would trust it with important stuff01:23
seiflotf1well its only a word document at the moment01:23
seiflotf1and a presentation01:23
seiflotf1nothing more01:23
theverantI dunno... OO seems ok, but again I'm not sure I would trust it with anything important01:24
theverantmaybe just save a lot :)01:24
theverantVMWare - I have no experience with01:24
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seiflotf1can i install another partiion with gutsy01:25
seiflotf1so i can boot feisty or gutsy01:25
seiflotf1depending on my needs01:25
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theverantI'm not the person to answer that, but I think you should be able to...01:25
theverantif you can dual boot with Windows, why not another linux install?01:26
theverantI've never tried it though...01:26
theverantyou should be able to set up grub to do it though... maybe.. :p01:26
seiflotf1but then i need to choose another boot partition for gutsy01:27
seiflotf1and how will i name the "/"01:27
theverantjust get it it's own HDD01:27
seiflotf1well i have a 50 MB partition here01:27
seiflotf1is that enough01:28
theverantmaybe can help you?01:29
theverant50GB is tons01:29
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theverantI really dunno if it'll work... Google it... lemmie know :)01:31
seiflotf1this means i will be deleting my windows partition01:32
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theverantjust as I'm reinstalling windows on my lappy :/ There is balance in the universe ;)01:34
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seiflotf1well i dont really need windows anymore01:35
seiflotf1i got tvuplayer to work under ubuntu01:35
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seiflotf1and my favourtie games are all available und linux01:35
seiflotf1no windows01:35
theverantI only "need" it for video support in Skype... :|01:35
mariaanyone feel like helping me out, im getting weird stripes all over my screen, i made a screenshot ; http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotpz9.png01:35
seiflotf1well thats why i hope empathy does its job01:35
theverantyeah, I'm going to look into Empathy... the mother in law has Skype installed and working, though... she wants to see the baby... so... bleh!01:36
seiflotf1well i cant c any stripes01:36
seiflotf1coudl be ur gpu01:36
lagamaria: you can't see them on the screenshot01:36
marialaga : i guess its my screen01:37
lagamaria: could be the screen or your VGA card. or the cable - wiggling might help ;)01:38
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mariai tried that :(01:39
theverantmaria - nice excuse to go buy a sweet 20" wide LCD :)01:39
mariaits crappy onboard riva tnt201:39
maria20" lcd for a p3 700 :(01:39
seiflotf1ok guys01:39
mariawhy onboard video card would light on fire trying to go over 1024x76801:40
seiflotf1should i install gutsy amd64 or i38601:40
theverantI'd stick with i38601:40
ccookeseiflotf1: depends what you need to do01:40
theverantunless you have apps which can really benefit from 64bit01:40
theverantor you want to feel cool ;)01:40
seiflotf1well i got everyting workign under 64 bit01:40
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ccooke64bit is faster on x8601:40
seiflotf1well i have an intel c2d01:41
ccookeseiflotf1: same here.01:41
ccookeAs far as I can see, 64bit is almost there in terms of working01:41
ccookeI ran feisty for three months on 64 bit01:41
seiflotf1only flash01:41
seiflotf1and i hear gnash is to fo the job01:41
ccookefinally gave up, though, because of the java problem01:41
ccookeseiflotf1: nah, flash is easy - there's a 32-bit wrapper for it.01:42
seiflotf1what java problem01:42
ccookeworked perfectly for me01:42
ccookeThe java problem is that there is no 64-bit sun java plugin. For *any* architecture01:42
seiflotf1well ia32 ?01:43
ccookeand the 32bit plugin can't be wrapped like flash can01:43
seiflotf1did any1 try empathy01:43
seiflotf1its supposed to be in the repositories01:44
ccookeBasically, if I didn't need java, I could run a 64-bit browser with 32-bit flash. Since I need java, I had to run a 32bit browser. If Ubuntu provided that as a package, I'd be using 64-bit now. But... no.01:44
ccookeah, yes01:44
ccookeI remember that being announced. Not looked since01:45
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theverantit is in the repo - i just installed it01:45
seiflotf1and how is it01:45
seiflotf1does the dock problem still exist01:45
seiflotf1so guys01:46
seiflotf1wish me luch01:46
theverantit only has protocols for Jabber, Salut, Google Talk, MSN, and IRC01:46
seiflotf1i am actually typing gutsy into the repositories01:46
seiflotf1still not sure htough01:46
theverantempathy seems to dock fine01:48
theverantit's not blowin my skirt up though01:48
theverantI guess it's a work in progress still?01:48
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theverantseiflotfl - good luck ;)01:50
theverantgdesklets doesn't work for me... :(01:51
seiflotf1well i dont like gseklets htough01:51
theverantwell I'm new to gnome - I wanted to try it out...01:52
ccooke... Has gdesklets *ever* worked?01:53
theverantI have no idea... I'm a KDE user usually... :)01:53
seiflotf1try adeklets01:53
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ccooke... nope, gdesklets still doesn't work01:55
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seiflotf1i mean upgrading01:56
theverantI wuz gunna say - that was fast01:56
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theverantbleh.  I'm too used to things closing to the task tray in KDE... :p01:58
seiflotf1i just stopped the download01:58
seiflotf1changing to a server for mgermany01:59
seiflotf1now thats muc hbetter01:59
seiflotf12889 kB/s01:59
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seiflotf13357 kB/s02:09
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InstabinI had problems installing the restricted driver for an nvidia geforce 6800gt. restricted drivers installed the nvidia-glx and it should have install nvidia-glx-new02:12
InstabinI thought ubuntu tribe 4 had the nvidia 100.14.11 driver...02:13
d4rkmonkeyhmm in my restricted drivers it says lirv_gpio is enabled but not in use02:15
d4rkmonkeyanyone have any idea what that is?02:15
RAOFThat's a IR remote driver, IIRC.02:17
DanaGOh yay, the logic of "Snap Inverted" has been... inverted.02:17
Instabind4rkmonkey: mine says the same thing02:17
d4rkmonkeylike infra red?02:17
RAOFYes.  Infra-red remote.02:17
Instabind4rkmonkey: do you know how to get the nvidia-settings icon in the start menu02:17
Instabind4rkmonkey: do you know how to get the nvidia-settings icon in the applications menu02:18
d4rkmonkeyRAOF, thats retarded. I don't even have IR on my laptop. what will it do if I disable it?02:18
Instabind4rkmonkey: I don't have ir on my desktop...02:18
RAOFAlso, it's doing nothing now, so... :)02:19
Instabind4rkmonkey: I just let it alone02:19
d4rkmonkeyI'm going to disable then02:19
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seiflotf1wow i am excited02:20
DanaGlirc is not irda, either -- it's for IR remotes.02:20
seiflotf1my ubuntu is upgrading02:20
DanaGIRDA is severely deprecated, itself, nowadays.02:20
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Instabinany one know when they are going to update the restricted drivers?02:23
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d4rkmonkeyInstabin, NEVAR!!!!02:29
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Instabind4rkmonkey: what ????02:29
d4rkmonkeyI don't know?02:30
d4rkmonkeyI just felt like saying something02:30
d4rkmonkeyInstabin, ^^02:30
Instabind4rkmonkey: where is the status page for gusty....02:32
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases02:32
d4rkmonkeythats not it02:32
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+102:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about updates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gutsy-release - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about status - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about state - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:33
d4rkmonkeyI forget where the schedule is02:33
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases02:33
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:33
ubotufoo is bar02:34
Instabin!tell d4rkmonkey foo02:34
d4rkmonkey!foo > Instabin02:35
Instabin!tell d4rkmonkey about foo02:35
Instabinfoo is bar02:35
Instabinos[Linux 2.6.22-9-generic i686]  distro[Debian lenny/sid]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ @ 2.41GHz]  mem[Physical : 1519MB, 81.3% free]  disk[Total : 216.50GB, 85.80% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800 GT] ]  sound[] 02:36
Instabind4rkmonkey: ^^02:36
Instabind4rkmonkey: sysinfo02:37
d4rkmonkeyeww I'd have to install that then02:38
DanaGArgh, compiz broke my 'del' key.02:39
d4rkmonkeythat sucks02:39
d4rkmonkeydesktop-effects stop all my Amarok shortcuts for some reason02:39
d4rkmonkeyand break my MythTV02:40
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs02:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:40
InstabinYEA!!! im getting my restricted extras02:42
Instabinwith out automatix02:42
DanaGargfh, ctrl-shift-arrow is also broken.02:43
DanaGNow I can't select text that way.02:43
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InstabinDanaG: What was ctrl-shift-arrow02:43
InstabinDanaG: did you install compiz settings manager02:44
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InstabinHow do i setup the desktop corner short cuts.....02:47
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Instabinlol i crashed my x server02:54
InstabinI tryed to run glxgears02:54
InstabinI tryed to run glxgears -info02:54
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:57
DanaGaah, enhanced-zoom is stealing ctrl-shift-arrow.  Bad!03:00
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Instabinyea!!! i have dvd playback03:01
marginoferrorAnyone know why the FUSE ntfs driver simply fails to display files with non-ASCII names?03:03
marginoferrorIs there a setting I'm missing?  Like the "don't be a retard" setting in /etc/fstab?03:03
RAOFBecause you're not using the right codepage, maybe?  I've got absolutely no experience, though :)03:03
RAOFUsing UTF-8?03:04
marginoferrorI'm using whatever the default is.  However, I've seen filesystems mounted with the wrong codepage before and they always show files with ??? filenames - not just nothing.  Lemme check fastb03:04
marginoferrorerr, fstab03:04
marginoferrorUUID=0A00172E00171FED /media/hdd1     ntfs-fuse    defaults,nls=utf8,uid=100003:04
marginoferrorI AM using utf8.  But maybe that's part of the problem, since I carried that option over from when I was using the standard driver.  I'll delete that part.03:05
marginoferrorYep, that fixed it entirely.  I'm guessing that's a bug.03:06
RAOFWoo!  Totally clueless help works :)03:07
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nosrednaekimWOOT! gutsy fixed my sound too! and i'm getting 30 minutes better battery life off the tickless option!03:12
nosrednaekimthis is one awesome release!03:13
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TBZHow can I read the contents of GNOME.desktop? It is blank, but if I make a new session with custom name, and leave contents blank, it loads in failsafe mode?03:24
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TBZsorry, wrong chan03:29
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Bl00dFoxi just wanted to ask a question about gutsy04:24
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:27
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seiflotfyhi guys04:28
seiflotfyany1 there04:28
seiflotfyfor some reason ubuntu starts wit heth0 disconnected04:29
seiflotfyit is connected04:29
seiflotfyi just upgraded from feisty04:29
seiflotfyand gnome starts up very slow04:30
Bl00dFoxI wanted to ask a question about compiz fusion - I had to follow a complicated guide on how to install it using feisty04:31
Bl00dFoxits automatically installed in gutsy right?04:31
d4rkmonkeyI believe so04:32
RAOFYes, it is.04:32
Bl00dFoxbut i still have to install my ATi drivers right?04:32
Bl00dFoxthat was a pain last time04:32
d4rkmonkeytry the tribe 4 live CD04:32
d4rkmonkeyjust see if that runs04:33
d4rkmonkeyalso if you don't do a clean install04:33
RAOFAlthough if you're upgrading from Feisty with the trevinho repositories, you may have problems.04:33
d4rkmonkeyyou shouldn't have to re-install anything04:33
Bl00dFoxwill the live CD come with Compiz Fusion??04:33
d4rkmonkeyyeah the live CD will have everything that gutsy has04:33
Bl00dFoxIll dl it at school tomorrow04:33
d4rkmonkeyso if it works you can try out whatever04:33
seiflotfyi got naother question04:33
Bl00dFoxMan the live CD is so convenient04:33
seiflotfyi got a usb audio device as well as an onboard audio device04:34
seiflotfyhowever totem uses only the usb04:34
seiflotfyalthough i want it to use the onboard04:34
seiflotfyhow do i do that04:34
RAOFseiflotfy: Install "asoundconf-gtk", then System->Preferences->Default Sound Card.04:34
seiflotfybeen there04:35
seiflotfydone it04:35
seiflotfyno help04:35
seiflotfytotem still plays usign the usb04:35
RAOFSystem->Pref->Sound, and select the right device for the various things?04:36
seiflotfyi selected my onboard for everything04:36
seiflotfystill not working04:36
seiflotfyi even tried it through multimedia selector04:37
Bl00dFoxok guys thanks for all the help04:38
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darkstar61hi all, i-m running kde4 on gutsi t4... i ve these issues with the kmenu (duplicated entries) > http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4738/kde5ma1.png04:42
DanaGI can't even get kde4 to start, so I can't help there.04:44
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darkstar61DanaG: i just install the packages with adept and followed these instructions http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php04:45
DanaGWhen I tried that, various things (such as the window manager) crashed.04:46
darkstar61Danafrom gutsy trice 4?04:46
DanaGI haven't tried since about a week ago.04:47
DanaGI might as well give it another try now.04:47
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DanaGI wish there were a metapackage of kde4.04:48
darkstar61DanaG: i istalled all but *dev and followed that04:48
darkstar61To run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop, edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4.04:48
darkstar61so i can start kde4 or 3 from the login04:49
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DanaGStupid 3-megabit connection -- while it's certainly not the worst, it's still rather lame.04:53
DanaGToo bad I'm not on my college campus right now -- then I'd be downloading at nearly a gigabit.04:54
DanaGGbE on my laptop + insanely fat pipes on "Internet2" == the win.04:54
DanaGThe first time I downloaded something from kernel.org using that connection, I immediately noticed the insane download speeds I was getting: roughly 20000 kilobytes per second.  (yes, twenty thousand.)04:56
DanaGCompare that to my measly 380 here at home.04:56
DanaGWell, anyway, I'll have to wait a few hours for the download to finish.04:57
DanaGs/a few/one or two/04:57
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RxDxim running Gutsy Tribe4, and 3D effects arent running ok... i cant see the menu bars. (nVidia GeForce 6200)05:11
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DanaGOh yay, my Home key is broken, too.05:38
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Shadow_milwill Gutsy have beryl || compiz || whatever, by default?05:58
Shadow_milor do we not know?05:58
Shadow_milI heard humors they wanted to put it into feisty05:59
Hobbseeit's already got compiz fusion by default05:59
RAOFIt currently has Compiz + Fusion by default.05:59
RAOFI believe that's likely to be removed before release, though, because drivers still suck.05:59
RAOFs/removed/not enabled by default/06:00
RAOFIt'll still be trivially enabled.06:00
HobbseeRAOF: is it?  where'd you hear that?06:00
HobbseeRAOF: it should auto-fallback on cards that dont support it, though06:00
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RAOFHobbsee: From Amaranth, after #ubuntu-devel hated on Compiz for a while :)06:00
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Shadow_mildo you know if they put it into feisty Kubuntu?06:00
HobbseeRAOF: but you didnt hear that from the release team and such06:01
HobbseeShadow_mil: they havent06:01
RAOFHobbsee: Yeah, but even on drivers where it nominally works it breaks important stuff.  Video, for example :)(06:01
Shadow_milI would say that the Kubuntu team should just save the work, and wait til KDE4.0, since QT/KDE4 will have openGL stuff in it06:01
RAOFHobbsee: No, I didn't hear it from anyone on the release team.06:01
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HobbseeRAOF: this is true, but the release team knows that if htey pull it from a tribe, it'll be incredibly hard for it to get back into the release.06:03
HobbseeRAOF: iv'e got the feeling that they'll press thru with it anyway.06:03
RAOFHobbsee: That'd be cool, and I think that Xorg 7.3 fixes some of the more annoying bugs.06:03
RAOFIt still wouldn't surprise me if it slipped, sadly.06:03
Hobbseewe have 7.3 now, dont we?06:04
RAOFNot last I checked, but maybe.06:04
RAOFNo.  We have xserver-xorg 1.3, which is clearly a part of Xorg 7.206:04
RAOFWhy should versioning make sense!  Stop saying words!06:05
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HobbseeRAOF: haha06:05
HobbseeRAOF: right06:05
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RAOFBryce is working to get 7.3 in.06:06
DanaGWhat does 7.3 give?06:06
RAOFWorking EXA for a start.06:07
HobbseeRAOF: when's it released?06:07
RAOFThe ati, and possibly the intel, drivers also gain working Xv under Composite.06:08
RAOFHobbsee: August, or so says the infrequently-updated release page.06:08
HobbseeRAOF: heh, right06:08
Jacoball i'm looking for is Xv + composite. totem hates compiz. :)06:08
RAOFJacob: Fixed.  For ati certainly.  And probably for intel, although I'm less sure.06:09
RAOFAnd since that's just covered the set of Compiz-capable open-drivers cards... :)06:09
Jacobnope, not yet for intel, although i've subscribed to the bug and it seems progress is underway06:09
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lymecaWhat kernel version will Gutsy have?06:13
lymecawith 23 not be out in time?06:14
lymecaIt's a shame because 2.6.23 will have the new scheduler and Xen06:14
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DanaGOh...kay, I just installed the new KDE4.06:16
DanaGEverything is completely broken.06:16
DanaGDesktop is empty except for a thingy in the upper left, and the panel is entirely empty.06:17
Hobbseethis is a surprise?06:17
Hobbseethis is likely as plasma is a WIP06:17
DanaGI expected it to have some semblance of _trying_ to work.06:17
Hobbseethe libs should work.06:17
Hobbseethe GUI shouldnt06:17
DanaGI'd use this analogy: broken is a car with missing or damaged pieces.  kde4 is just a bunch of parts lying around.06:18
DanaGOh, somebody else gave me the impression that it was supposed to be at least something try-able.06:18
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DanaGOh yeah, perhaps part of it is that I do not also have kde3 installed.06:19
Hobbseethat may not help, no06:19
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DanaGBack to Gnome.06:22
DanaGWell, at least it was polite enough to leave my kde3 settings alone.06:22
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DanaG(I do have kcontrol installed, because I want to be able to change those settings.)06:23
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HobbseeDanaG: of course it does.  kde4 uses ~/.kde406:25
DanaGHmm, yet this news thingy shows more stuff working.  http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta1.php06:26
DanaGI still can't figure out why my 'del' key suddenly broke.06:27
DanaGAll I get is a few notifies and this:06:28
DanaGKeymapNotify event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x0,        keys:  2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0              0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   006:28
RAOF"Support for random background colours per tab".  Wow.06:29
DanaGWell, dolphin works.  kmahjongg works.  Other stuff may still work.06:32
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tulgasomeone use ltsp on gutsy?06:34
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DanaGArfgh, my delete key is still broken.07:00
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DanaGOh, and I got a couple of segfaults after one of the init-scripts.07:02
Ayabaramounting nfs still doesn't work? did my monday morning update now, but things look to be as they were on friday.07:03
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DanaGyay, old deskbar.  New version is useless.07:07
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graftanyone having atheros issues with the latest  kernel?07:13
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apache2hey all07:21
apache2wonder if anyone can help me troubleshoot why whenever I play any type of video, vlc, mplayer, etc -- the video is completely "shaky"07:21
benanz2not much going on in here07:21
apache2appears like an earthquake is going on07:21
apache2running ATI, fglrx, using xine07:22
benanz2hmm.  Have you got desktop-effects enabled?07:22
benanz2the whole screen or just the video window?07:22
apache2just the video window07:22
apache2when I run xvinfo and fglrxinfo everything seems to check out07:23
apache2if I could somehow capture what it looks like, maybe that would be helpfull?07:24
benanz2I really have no idea.  is it just the Xine player?07:24
apache2every player07:25
benanz2try a gstreamer app like totem-gstreamer07:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 131943 in Ubuntu "When using mplayer, vlc, kmplayer in 7.10 Gusty Gibbon with ATI card fglrx, xv overlay, the video appears "Shaky"" [Undecided,New] 07:25
Ayabaracan someone try to mount an nfs drive? just want to check if it's me or Gutsy that's to blame :-)07:26
benanz2apache2: try changing the output module for xine to X11 (no xv)07:27
apache2okay I'll try that07:28
apache2in the mean time I just opened a video in totem and all the colors were inverted :)07:28
apache2didn't "shake" but full screen it still appeared to be in software mode (no hardware accel -- sortof pixelated)07:28
apache2benanz2: right, with no XV just X11 it plays fine, but when you go fullscreen it stays the same size07:30
apache2if you know what I mean07:30
apache2I switched to gl and gl2 and it is much better, so that narrows it down to an XV bug07:32
RAOFYay.  Xv bug in a binary blob.07:33
RAOFCan there be any greater fun?07:33
apache2what package does Xv come with, xorg itself?07:34
apache2libxv1, libxvmc107:35
RAOFIt's a driver feature.07:36
RAOFThose would be libraries for programs that want to use Xv.07:37
RAOFI don't suppose you can test with a free driver?07:37
apache2the "ati" driver?07:37
apache2I've never used anything other than fglrx, I'd have to research what to do07:37
apache2does the "ati" driver even work with the X**** series ati cards?07:38
apache2using a MacbookPro w/ X1600 here07:38
apache2thought so, that'd be why I haven't used it before :P07:39
crdlbthe avivo driver is an attempt to make a free r500 driver though07:39
crdlbbut it's extremely alpha07:39
apache2so that's another option07:39
apache2I see07:39
crdlblike slower-than-vesa alpha07:39
apache2so this Xv problem would be a bug that ATI/AMD would have to sort out07:40
apache2(cough cough----sh*t :(  )07:40
DanaGIs there any way to make Pulseaudio run high-priority, yet not speed up cpufreq?07:40
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RAOFDanaG: It didn't, not when I was using it.07:42
DanaGHmm, it's using about 12% CPU.07:43
DanaGOkay, something else is also causing issues.  I temporarily absolve PulseAudio of blame.07:44
DanaGOh, and it's not running high-priority, so that's not the issue.  It's running at priority 0.07:45
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contrast83Greets, everyone...08:18
contrast83Has anyone heere successfully compiled Compiz-Fusion under Gutsy?08:18
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apache2if I try to run xine it crashes hardcore08:36
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DanaGdebconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog08:57
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tulgahowto know which card is eth0 and which card is eth1?09:16
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ranjanamarok does not show any dropdown menus11:26
ranjani cannot get inti the settings... any ideas?11:27
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Infectoroot     15394 95.8  0.0   2432   388 ?        R    11:00  57:18 vbetool dpms on12:00
Infecto95% of cpu?12:00
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=== Topic for #ubuntu+1: The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 4 released!
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(Instabin|work/#ubuntu+1) Where can i find the status of the restricted nvidia drivers12:25
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tatterstrying to run my Tvcard and webcam gives me error  Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoModia I googled around and read that the nvidia drivers do not suppt this mode anymore , his mean that any app that uses capture devices are broken for me , there is a option to use -nodga switch with xawtv which works but is not an ideal solution,,,,,,,,,,,,,anyone any knowledge of this problem?01:46
tattersX Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode01:47
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tattersis video4linux fully implemented yet in gutsy?02:11
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leperkhanzWhat's the best tool for converting .mdf or .img over to .iso?02:14
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.02:15
tattersa computer :)02:15
leperkhanzThanks Pici.02:16
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leperkhanzIs there a way to right click an iso and mount it?  Or make that possible in Ubuntu?02:23
leperkhanzI'd love to just right click an iso and select "mount" from the list.02:23
PiciI think there is an application to make mounting of ISOs easy, but I cant think of its name.02:24
tatterslinux noob here but that sound like an easy project to make a script and add to right click menu,02:26
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tattersanyone use a TVcard and latest Nvidia drivers, I am having problesm running any capture app gives me error  " X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode"    unless I use "-nodga" ,strangly though Kopete works fine with device without the "-nodga" option. I googled around nnd found that Nvidia does not support this mode anymore, does this mean all capture apps have to be updated?02:42
leperkhanzI'm not trying to do that, but TVtime worx good 4 me.02:44
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tattersdo u have nvidia propriastry drivers?02:45
leperkhanzWhere is the right place to upload a feature request?  Somewhere in launchpad?02:45
leperkhanzTVtime is workin' good!02:45
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geniiBTW hats off to whoever worked on restricted drivers manager02:47
tattersguess it must be somethin else then , I get same prob with Tvtime02:47
leperkhanzYeah, Ubuntu has come a long way.  Feisty was a big step forward.  Gutsy is going to rock.02:48
geniileperkhanz: What sort of tuner card/device you have? I just got a pci tv wonder 20002:48
tattersI was just gunna ask that02:49
leperkhanzMine's a AverTV somethin' I think?02:49
tattersavertmedia tv studio and a fx5200 here02:49
tattersall worked good in fiesty02:50
leperkhanzWhere do I put feature requests?02:50
Picileperkhanz: Log a bug on launchpad02:50
genii7600GT and of course the tv wonder :) I'm gonna put the tuner in tonight and see how it goes. The 7600 works awesomely02:50
tattersleperkhanz: are you running compiz-fusion at all?02:51
leperkhanztatters: Of course!02:53
leperkhanz6600 gt02:53
tattersI dont understand if latest drivers do not support XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode Y I have to add the switch an u dont02:54
leperkhanzI ruined m .dmrc file though, somehow, so I have to load compiz by hand every reboot.02:54
tatterscompiz is working like a dream here02:54
leperkhanzThe funniest is that no animations besides fade and dodge work for me, except every little text box that pops up (hints?) use every other animation, so there's constantly tiny little fires and bizarre compiz animations of that sort all over the screen... but the windows only fade, lol.02:56
leperkhanzI think isobuster works better in wine than in windows.  LOL02:56
leperkhanzNow if I can just get it to make these damned files into .iso02:58
leperkhanzI've made .bin, .img, where is the .iso button?  doh!02:58
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shirishhi all, does anybody know which package does gconftool reside in?03:21
Hobbseeshirish: dpkg -S gconftool03:22
shirishHobbsee: thank you03:23
Hobbseeno problem03:23
tattersI am having problems getting any capture device to work this thread contains same error and the a kinda solution that works,but it seems like an old issue does anyuone know about this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-334508.htm03:24
shirishis there some kind of front-end/ui to gconftool?03:24
Picishirish: gconf-editor perhaps, I'm not sure what you're trying to do, nor have I used gconftool03:24
shirishPici: dunno if this is a bug or not, the thing is in Settings, Preferred applications I have set firefox-granparadiso (i.e. ff 3.0a7 as the default/preferred browser) but looking the same at gconftool --get /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command shows me firefox %s03:26
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Picishirish: Sounds like it might be an alternatives issue.03:29
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shirishubotu alternatives03:30
ubotuTo change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.03:30
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shirishPici: lol, there is only There is only 1 program which provides gnome-www-browser03:32
shirish(/usr/bin/firefox). Nothing to configure.03:32
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shirishPici: even 'x-www-browser' also throws up only 2 alternatives, firefox & icecape03:34
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shirishhylje: nope it says iceape, /usr/bin/iceape although it might be iceweasel, the browser the debian guys use03:39
shirishPici: if you do put up a bug please tell me the bug no. for I wanna subscribe to it.03:42
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IdleOnewhat is the update-alternatives command to choose java?04:25
Hobbseesudo update-alternatives --config java, i think04:27
IdleOneyup ty04:31
DanaGYou can also install the 'galternatives' thingy to give you a GUI.04:36
PiciDanaG: Ooh, good to know04:37
IdleOnety DanaG didnt know there was a GUI for it04:39
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shirishubotu resolution04:48
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:48
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IdleOneshirish, how do I make a symlink to java6 so paradiso will use it?04:49
shirishIdleOne: no idea m8, I just crashed out my xserver & am having problems there :(04:50
IdleOneahh ok04:50
shirishnow in windows, trying to see if I can fix that problem first04:50
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Eq|workhm.. seems a lot quieter in here.05:00
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Eq|workanyone got suggestions on getting a dell d630 to work properly with gutsy? not having much luck atm.. well, to an extent. got gfx working, though everything feels rather large (in spide of being the right res), but no sound, and no optical drive..05:00
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pvandewyngaerdeCommando '/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi 1' is niet gevonden.05:42
pvandewyngaerdewhen enabling zeroconf browsing in KDE05:43
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tumbleweedare esd problems general?06:01
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nemiktumbleweed: esd? like the startup sound? i never hear it06:11
Instabin|workI submited a wall paper image to the ubuntu wiki could someone tell me what they think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Blubuntu/BlubuntuWallpaper06:11
Instabin|workits teh one wat the bottom06:11
Instabin|worksry fat fingers ( its the one at the bottom)06:11
Matir`very clean06:12
Matir`i like it06:12
nemikbut blue should be for kubuntu, no?06:12
Instabin|workmyI duno it under artwork incomming blubuntu...06:12
Instabin|workit was my first time using gimp06:12
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nemikah i see06:13
shirishguys does anybody know when xserver-xorg 7.3 be coming into Gutsy?06:13
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Eq|workthat doesn't specifically answer the question as such.. though it does imply it may well not.06:17
shirishInstabin I know when Gutsy is being released, I wanted to know when xserver-xorg 7.3 will be in gutsy, I am running gutsy06:17
shirishI am seeing this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xorg7.3Integration atm, but that doesn't tell me what is happening atm :(06:18
Matir`It looks like, if it's not pulled in in the next 3 days, it won't make Gutsy06:21
tumbleweednemik: when I run any standard gnome multimedia programs, I get trouble...06:22
tumbleweedlots of crashes, the samaple videos don't play, etc06:23
Eq|workhopefully xorg will be granted an extension.. as tbh 7.3 looks like it'll make a lot of difference..06:25
voidmagexorg usually gets in06:28
Eq|workwe shall see.06:28
Eq|workwonder if it'll improve the x stuff on my d630..06:28
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shirishit should, gotta see what bryce has to say about it06:30
shirishhe would have more of the info.06:30
shirishthere is a testing thread in ubuntuforums about xorg 7.3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49098206:31
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intraWhere can I download the latest release of Gutsy?06:32
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voidmageyou can either download a cd image or upgrade from feisty06:33
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Instabin|workI was getting lockups on video while playing dvds06:39
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Instabin|workshirish: did you check the launchpad link?06:41
Instabin|worknvr mind its just a blue print06:42
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Instabin|workHow bout the nvidia restricted 100.14.11 driver is there a page for it06:44
shirishInstabin: there is a .deb packages if one wants to test06:46
shirishInstabin: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/06:46
shirishInstabin|work: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/06:47
shirishInstabin|work: it has nvidia stuff, but don't know which driver & most probably it would be configured for xorg 7.306:47
Instabin|workshirish: i see the nv 2.1.1 driver but not the restricted06:49
Instabin|workahh found it its under fglrx06:49
Instabin|workbut its still just driver version 963106:50
ccooke9631 is the latest driver packaged as nvidia-glx in Ubuntu06:51
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ccooke9755 is packaged in nvidia-glx-new06:51
shirishInstabin|work: if you need the newer version driver for whatever purposes, file a bug report at launchpad & give reasons for it, as to why its needed,06:51
Instabin|workshirish: yes the old ones dont support the 8400m06:51
ccookeInstabin|work: have you tried nvidia-glx-new ?06:52
ccookeah, I misread your correction06:53
Instabin|workccooke: do you have a link to the launch pad06:54
Instabin|workfound it06:56
shirishubotu launchpad | Instabin|work06:56
ubotuInstabin|work: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/06:56
shirishguys, I am suffering from a peculiar bug, from one profile I can't access/use GNOME but another profile i can use/work in GNOME, in such case, how can I have a clean GNOME profile ?06:57
shirishright now in XFCE06:58
Eq|workshirish : rm -rf .gnome2/ ?06:59
Eq|workin the b0rked profile06:59
Eq|workor probably better to mv it06:59
Eq|workmay need to do .gnome , .gnome2 and .gnome2_private06:59
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shirishEq|work: There is also a .gnomerc, would that also need to be moved?07:01
Eq|workhrm.. i don't have that07:01
Eq|workprobably safest to, yeah07:01
Eq|workmkdir gnomefiles-b0rked; mv .gnome* gnomefiles-b0rked07:02
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ubotuLaunchpad bug 132237 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "Nvidia Restricted drivers card support" [Undecided,New] 07:02
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shirishEq|work: actually did that, not with the .gnome* but did that nonetheless & the name used is broked profile07:03
Instabin|workcould some one check out that link and see if i have enough info...07:03
Instabin|workI could get and lspci -v later07:03
shirishInstabin|work: usually I tag the bug as an upgrade if its an upgrade or update of a release I am asking for, the developer can see that stuff, haven't asked any driver upgrades so unknown about that.07:05
cr1sshi, I 'm having a weird problem with my speakers.. with win xp , I have no sound issues, with gutsy, when I raise the volume, a "fsssssssh" is being heard which gets stronger as I raise the volume. what could this be ?07:05
Instabin|workcr1ss: do you have another set of speakers or headphones to test if its your spearks or something else causing the problem?07:07
cr1ssI don't think it has to do with the speakers, because, while on windows xp, everything works ok07:09
cr1ssalso, using feisty before, this problem didn't exist07:09
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tattersimprovements in gutsy include audable "fsssssssh" when raising or lowering volume for the benifit of the sight impaired07:13
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tale_can anyone tell me why there are two new terminal applications under "system tools"?07:15
tale_they seem redundant07:15
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Eq|workshirish : it work after doing that?07:16
cr1sstatters : is there any way I can disable this function ? because, it gets a little bit annoying listening to this..07:16
Eq|worktale_ : xterm and unicode-xterm07:16
IdleOnetale_: they are different GUI's from what I can tell07:16
shirishEq|work: actually doing a bunch of updates, then will go to GNOME & see what happens.07:17
Eq|workshirish : cool07:17
Eq|workthink it's about time to head home..07:17
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MenZaHey; can anyone tell me how I can configure XScreensaver in Gutsy?07:17
tattersonly fix I know involves duct tape and small hammer07:18
tale_Eq|work, IdleOne, but why include them in addition to gnome-terminal?  I thought the goal of Ubuntu was to pick a good choice and remove redundant apps.07:18
tale_at least for the base install07:18
Eq|worktale_ : failsafe07:19
Eq|workxterm is on pretty much every distro07:19
Eq|workfor the simple reason that if x is in failsafe mode, that's what is started07:19
Eq|workif you do startx, it's xterm that gets started07:19
tale_so it's for the bulletproof X updates?07:20
MenZameh; I figured it out: xscreensaver-demo07:21
Eq|workit's so that no matter how you start x, you'll always have access to a terminal07:21
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tale_it's installed on my feisty install by default.  I guess the only thing new is the addition of the links in the menu07:21
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Instabin|workI would like to create a deb for the nvidia restricted 100.14.11 driver.... Could someone tell me where to learn how07:27
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shirishanybody knows stuff about keyboard-applet07:34
shirishin GNOME I get this error about something to do with keyboard indicator applet "OAFIID: GNOME_Keyboard applet" Do you want to delete this applet from your configuration?07:35
tale_Instabin|work, check out a package called envy07:35
tale_it creates a debian package of the nvidia restricted drivers07:35
tale_you can look at the source if you still want to do it07:35
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shirishtale_: do you know the package which is responsible for keyboard indicator in GNOME?07:40
shirishtale_:  modify the query to keyboard language indicator in GNOME panel in GNOME?07:40
tale_shirish, I'm not sure.  Sorry07:42
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shirishtale_: no issues, thank you07:43
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NSCAD_Nathanwhat is up with Samba?  I never had a problem setting it up in Feisty... Now I can't even get a directory listing from my host07:45
shirishNSCAD_Nathan: have you updated/upgraded all the updates, even the full-upgrade/dist-upgrade ones, for there was a new release in samba about a day back07:45
NSCAD_NathanI thought I did... lemmie double check07:46
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shirishNSCAD_Nathan: do the double check, if you did & still samba is not showing any stuff, there are only 2 possibilities, 1. either something has changed in the configuration stuff (rare although could happen), or 2. its some bug, more common occurrence but often under-reported. See if any bugs have been filed to whatever is happening at your end, if there have been similar bugs, then post whatever was asked of them in those bugs, while filing your bug.07:49
NSCAD_Nathanokie, thanks07:49
NSCAD_NathanI know I was having issues at home as well, and I ended up unistalling, deleting config files, reinstalling and it worked - despite me doing the same set up routine07:50
tale_I'm new to tracker.  I have my indexing preferences set to index evolution.  However, it doesn't return any results.  Is that because it won't index imap accounts?07:50
NSCAD_NathanI tried that here, but no joy07:50
tale_btw, indexing is complete07:50
shirishtale_: have you configured tracker, there are some config stuff you can play with, although no idea about imap accounts stuff07:51
shirishtale_: put tracker-preferences in CLI to access the GUI way07:52
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tale_shirish, yeah, I've enabled evolution indexing.  I don't see any other options in the track config file07:54
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shirishtale_: about the other options, seems to be a bug, filing it as we speak, would give the bug no. as its done07:56
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MarcoHow unstable is gutsy at this point?07:58
Marcomore or less broken than debian unstable?07:59
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shirishtale_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tracker/+bug/132246 although the bug I have put up describes things a little differently.08:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132246 in tracker "tracker-preferences e-mail indexing in Evolution is inadequate" [Undecided,New] 08:01
shirishMarco: depends, mine is broken in parts, but i still get to enjoy whatever i need to/want to most of the time ;)08:01
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nosrednaekimMarco: no big bugs for me here on kubuntu, and it fixed my sound and wireless and gave me 30 minutes more battery life.08:04
nosrednaekimso i'm VERY happy08:04
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Marcowhere's the upgrade guide?08:05
shirishubotu upgrade | Marco08:05
ubotuMarco: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes08:05
pvandewyngaerdei cantt acces the partition ediitor on kubuntu08:05
Instabin|workdoes kubuntu 7.10 have kde 4.0?08:06
pvandewyngaerdebeta 108:06
Marcokde4 beta 1 is sadly not beta quality08:07
Instabin|workHow do you like it08:07
pvandewyngaerdedepends on how you define beta08:07
nosrednaekimits very unstable and unfinished08:07
Marcoit has potential08:07
nosrednaekimyeah, its definately going to be great when its finished08:07
Marcopvandewyngaerde, usually beta software is usable but you just have to put up with some major bugs08:07
MarcoI'd venture to say that kde4 is not usable08:07
pvandewyngaerdethat is the google definition of beta08:07
nosrednaekimKDE4 isn't even what I would call "usable"08:07
Instabin|workI have used gnome sincie it used sawfish as a window manager08:07
tale_shirish, thanks08:08
MarcoInstabin|work, it's perfectly fine if you want to toy around with it08:08
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Marcobut don't expect to use it as your primary environment08:08
Instabin|worki can install kde on reg ubuntu 7.10 by type apt-get kde-desktop right?08:09
Marcoshirish, btw, that page doesn't cover upgrades to gutsy08:09
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shirishubotu gutsy | Marco08:10
ubotuMarco: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+108:10
shirishdrats, they moved the entry I guess08:10
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shirishMarco: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe408:13
shirishMarco: there is also another thread at ubuntuforums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501893 which you can take a look/browse through , you might find some better ways to update/upgrade.08:14
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Marcoshirish, for some reason, update-manager -d doesn't do the trick08:17
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databuddyis everyone else getting the firefox instabilities?08:22
nosrednaekimdatabuddy: no problems here08:23
nosrednaekimdoesn't mean its not a bug tho ;)08:23
shirishMarco: did you upgrade update-manager from feisty-proposed? You need to enable feisty-proposed & then upgrade that.08:23
Marco# update-manager -c -d08:24
Marcowarning: could not initiate dbus08:24
Marcocurrent dist not found in meta-release file08:24
databuddyapparently i cant bookmark things now08:28
Instabin|workinstalling kde on ubuntu now08:29
darkstar61databuddy: mine is working fine (can bookmark) Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv: Gecko/20070810 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy) Firefox/
geniidatabuddy: my bookmarking works. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv: Gecko/20061201 Firefox/ (Ubuntu-feisty)08:31
geserMarco: are you affected by bug #129392?08:31
databuddyquite nice then lol08:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129392 in update-manager ""update-manager -d" in Feisty presents no option to upgrade to Gutsy" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12939208:31
databuddyfor me gutsy 7.10 ubuntu 64bit08:31
geniiAh, forgot I'm on feisty box atm LOL08:31
databuddyworks fine in feisty :>08:31
Instabin|workI want ubuntu on my xbox36008:32
databuddywith some updates from last week i get to play with compiz-fusion too :)08:32
geniiBut didn't notice any issues last night on gutsy, ff08:32
databuddyInstabin|work: last i heard no audio on xbox linux08:32
Marcogeser, yes08:32
geniiand i did bookmark some stuff as well08:32
databuddyah and xmms wont open again08:32
databuddyowell they fixed it last time in a couple days imsure itl be decent again this time ^^08:33
nosrednaekimOK... thats annoying... the synaptic bug with package download scripts has STILL not been fixed!08:37
mplayerhey nosrednaekim08:38
mplayerat least when we finish alpha/beta testing gutsy we get to keep it08:38
mplayerand we can upgrade from it08:38
mplayerunlike vista ~_____~08:38
mplayernow that was a worthless beta lemme tell ya08:39
nosrednaekimyeah. but this was broken in fiesty and there is a legnthy bug report!08:39
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voidmagehas anyone packaged wine .43 yet?08:41
nosrednaekimand its a simple fix too i'm sure.08:41
nosrednaekimjust a space needed.08:41
nosrednaekimin fact, I found where the problem was in the source.08:41
necronekostarthen bug the maintainer of the package and tell to put a space there lol08:42
necronekostaroik i gotta find a job today or im screwed so i'll prolly c u later :P08:42
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JosefKhas anyone else noticed today's daily amd64 alternate build doesn't have an installable kernel?08:43
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Nickevoidmage: I see it in the repository I use atleast (the one linked from winehq.com, for amd64)08:53
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turboosterHi! I wanna update my feisty to latest gutsy build but can't find the How-to page (that I saw once).09:03
turboosterI don't wanna burn it on CD I wanna download on a "running machine" btw09:04
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turboosterAny ideas?09:12
nemikturbooster: do you like things not working and endless debuggin?09:13
turboosterwanna try, yes09:13
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nemikthen just replace everything that says feisty with gutsy in /etc/apt/sources.list and do an apt-get dist-upgrade09:13
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turboosterdoews this update to the tribe4-release or to the brand newstuff09:14
nemikfor tribe4 i think you should just install it all over from the cd09:15
nemikbut there's no point really because you'll need the new stuff anyway, it gets updates a few times a day even09:15
turboosterCan I use the Feisty CD to install a second feisty for safeties sake?09:16
turboosterto be precise: How do I do it?09:17
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nemikno, just do all this on a new partition09:23
turboosterthanks a lot nemik!09:23
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nemikgood luck, seriously09:25
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JosefKdoes ubiquity drop a log anywhere by default?10:01
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voidmageNicke: the feisty packages work?10:03
Nickevoidmage: Oh.. my bad, didn't realize it was in this channel.. sorry for that10:05
NickeI think the chances that it will work are pretty high though, but I haven't tested it10:05
voidmageusually someone packages wine up to pretty close to release10:05
voidmagethen the budgetdedicated repo opens some time around release10:06
Nickevoidmage: Seems we may get wine for amd64 in gutsy's repos:10:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 43324 in wine "There is no 64 bit package available." [Wishlist,Confirmed] 10:09
Nicke(scroll down to the last few posts)10:10
voidmagei run 32 bit10:10
Nickeoh.. okey10:10
Nickeah, and that was just 0.42.. I see10:10
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pawallsHas anyone else had regressions w/ 30" monitors on Gutsy? Same exact X config as Feisty (using nvidia drivers). Tried manually setting modelines, but won't go higher than 1280x800.10:27
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DanaGArgh, whenever I hit my delete key, I merely get a dialog from an unspecified app, saying "Text was empty (or contained only whitespace)".10:50
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voidmageDanaG: do you have any way to identify that?10:55
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crackerboxI know this could be considered a general question... but i cant seem an answer on the forums and appearently i know as much as the active people in the normal channel at the moment, so i will ask here, and hope that i am not taken into the perverbial street and beaten... Is there a way to install a USB printer without having it actually connected to the PC.  I am trying to setup a replacement system that I will ship to my grandparent11:04
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keram`kylem, has that sound problem been fixed yet?11:16
DanaGArgh, whenever I hit my delete key, I get a paste dialog.11:17
DanaGI mean, I get this in a nameless dialog:11:18
keram`thats some wack stuff11:18
DanaGText was empty (or contained only whitespace)11:18
keram`when you press the delete key anywhere?11:18
keram`even in the irc window?11:18
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DanaGEven in terminal, or on desktop.11:20
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DanaGAlso, if I do xwininfo -a, it shows that the parent is the root window.11:20
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keram`no idea :/11:24
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robtaylorso.. can anyone tell me why gutsy needs so much space in /boot? I have a boot partition and a large lvm partion (probably from breezy or suchlike), so I can't even resize /boot :/11:48
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crimsun19M     /boot11:49
crimsundoesn't seem terribly "so much space" to me, but I'm not in a space-constrained system.11:49
robtaylorcrimsun: update manager bug, i suspect11:49
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robtaylor"The upgrade needs a total of 262144000 free space on disk /boot"11:50
robtaylor262M, thats a bit wtf territory for /boot11:51
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robtaylorah, figured it now12:04
robtaylorcos i''ve got too many old images installed, and it plans on reinstalling them, or somesuch12:05
DanaGI've always wondered why people use 'cos' for 'because'.  I see 'cos' and think 'cosine'.  "  'cuz " seems more like 'because' to me.12:12
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robtaylorDanaG: cos its pronounced becos?12:24
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TheInfinityjussi01: because OOo is standard and atm ODF is not full compatible :/12:29
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