[12:33] instabin: I have Intel/Realtek. I need to compile alsa myself, with a special pacth === darkstar61 [n=darkstar@213-140-6-100.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:35] wtf? Compiz just dimmed my firefox window. [12:35] And now it's stuck dim. [12:35] And the app is not frozen. === Pici- [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:40] i downloaded the nvidia drivers direct from nvidias site... how can i get rid of those in favor of nvidia-glx ? === davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [12:45] chasetoys: you could run the *pkg*.run with --uninstall === askand [n=askar@h178n2c1o1099.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:47] Hmm..tried gutsy herd 4 recently..it doesnt find my dlink wifi card and not my intel (?!) soundcard...what has happened :S === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-249.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fluffysheep__ [n=peter@62.235.137.195] has joined #ubuntu+1 === davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:59] I just want to confirm a bug if possible. Could some one change their login screen to Human List. Do you get any Icons to click on instead of typing in your user name? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-62-86.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === theverant [n=thev@hlfxns0145w-142167142160.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ameyer [n=cheesebo@adsl-75-57-176-212.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:14] is gdesklets known to not work in Gutsy ATM? ...or is it just me... === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@84.13.127.167] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Spec[x] [n=nwheeler@charon.devis.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === seiflotf1 [n=seif@x214.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:20] hi guys [01:20] wanted to ask how is gutsy gibbon going [01:21] is it very buggy [01:21] or can i work with it [01:21] I'm running it right now [01:21] it's buggy, but seems like nothing too major [01:21] i am familiar iwth dpkg and everything [01:21] but still can i do most of my work on it [01:21] I have no idea... what kind of work are you doing? === _Dave2__ [i=dave@about/goats/pdpc.supporter.student.Dave2] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:22] also does it still ahve that annoyign bug that when u move with ur mouse over t he tray the descitpions pop up but dont fade again [01:22] well mostly openoffice at the moment [01:22] and developing stuff under windows vmware [01:22] I have no bug with the mouse/tray [01:22] however i want to look for bugs report and try to solve some [01:23] what baotu empathy [01:23] OO is the development version 2.X === lamalex [n=alex@c-71-225-68-151.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:23] so i don't think I would trust it with important stuff [01:23] well its only a word document at the moment [01:23] and a presentation [01:23] nothing more [01:24] I dunno... OO seems ok, but again I'm not sure I would trust it with anything important [01:24] maybe just save a lot :) [01:24] VMWare - I have no experience with === gerben [n=gerben@d51A4DA1E.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:25] can i install another partiion with gutsy [01:25] so i can boot feisty or gutsy [01:25] depending on my needs === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [01:25] I'm not the person to answer that, but I think you should be able to... [01:26] if you can dual boot with Windows, why not another linux install? [01:26] I've never tried it though... [01:26] you should be able to set up grub to do it though... maybe.. :p [01:27] but then i need to choose another boot partition for gutsy [01:27] and how will i name the "/" [01:27] just get it it's own HDD [01:27] well i have a 50 MB partition here [01:28] is that enough [01:29] http://www.go2linux.org/dual-boot-two-linux-distros-debian-and-mandriva [01:29] maybe can help you? [01:29] 50GB is tons === _Dave2__ is now known as Dave2 [01:31] I really dunno if it'll work... Google it... lemmie know :) [01:32] this means i will be deleting my windows partition [01:33] wohooooo === d4rkmonkey claps [01:34] just as I'm reinstalling windows on my lappy :/ There is balance in the universe ;) === marginoferror [n=andrewsg@c-76-21-215-86.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:34] hehehehe [01:34] yeah [01:35] well i dont really need windows anymore [01:35] i got tvuplayer to work under ubuntu [01:35] :) === maria [n=maria@bas11-montrealak-1177722214.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:35] and my favourtie games are all available und linux [01:35] so [01:35] no windows [01:35] I only "need" it for video support in Skype... :| [01:35] anyone feel like helping me out, im getting weird stripes all over my screen, i made a screenshot ; http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotpz9.png [01:35] well thats why i hope empathy does its job [01:36] yeah, I'm going to look into Empathy... the mother in law has Skype installed and working, though... she wants to see the baby... so... bleh! [01:36] well i cant c any stripes [01:36] coudl be ur gpu [01:36] maria: you can't see them on the screenshot [01:37] laga [01:37] oh [01:37] laga : i guess its my screen [01:38] maria: could be the screen or your VGA card. or the cable - wiggling might help ;) === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-62-86.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:39] i tried that :( [01:39] maria - nice excuse to go buy a sweet 20" wide LCD :) [01:39] its crappy onboard riva tnt2 [01:39] 20" lcd for a p3 700 :( [01:39] nasty [01:39] ok guys [01:40] why onboard video card would light on fire trying to go over 1024x768 [01:40] should i install gutsy amd64 or i386 [01:40] ? [01:40] I'd stick with i386 [01:40] seiflotf1: depends what you need to do [01:40] unless you have apps which can really benefit from 64bit [01:40] or you want to feel cool ;) [01:40] well i got everyting workign under 64 bit === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:40] 64bit is faster on x86 [01:41] well i have an intel c2d [01:41] seiflotf1: same here. [01:41] As far as I can see, 64bit is almost there in terms of working [01:41] yeo [01:41] I ran feisty for three months on 64 bit [01:41] only flash [01:41] and i hear gnash is to fo the job [01:41] finally gave up, though, because of the java problem [01:42] seiflotf1: nah, flash is easy - there's a 32-bit wrapper for it. [01:42] what java problem [01:42] worked perfectly for me [01:42] The java problem is that there is no 64-bit sun java plugin. For *any* architecture [01:43] well ia32 ? [01:43] and the 32bit plugin can't be wrapped like flash can [01:43] did any1 try empathy [01:43] ? [01:43] empathy? [01:44] http://live.gnome.org/Empathy [01:44] its supposed to be in the repositories [01:44] Basically, if I didn't need java, I could run a 64-bit browser with 32-bit flash. Since I need java, I had to run a 32bit browser. If Ubuntu provided that as a package, I'd be using 64-bit now. But... no. [01:44] ah, yes [01:45] I remember that being announced. Not looked since === ninnghizidha [n=ninnghiz@chello084112032164.1.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:45] it is in the repo - i just installed it [01:45] and how is it [01:45] ? [01:45] does the dock problem still exist [01:46] so guys [01:46] wish me luch [01:46] luck [01:46] it only has protocols for Jabber, Salut, Google Talk, MSN, and IRC [01:46] i am actually typing gutsy into the repositories [01:46] still not sure htough [01:48] empathy seems to dock fine [01:48] it's not blowin my skirt up though [01:48] I guess it's a work in progress still? === laga [n=laga@mythwiki.de] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === allbert [n=allberto@60.53.38.110] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:50] seiflotfl - good luck ;) [01:51] gdesklets doesn't work for me... :( [01:51] well i dont like gseklets htough [01:52] well I'm new to gnome - I wanted to try it out... [01:53] ... Has gdesklets *ever* worked? [01:53] yep [01:53] I have no idea... I'm a KDE user usually... :) [01:53] try adeklets === seiflotf1 [n=seif@x214.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [01:55] ... nope, gdesklets still doesn't work === theverant [n=thev@hlfxns0145w-142167142160.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === seiflotf1 [n=seif@x214.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:56] upgraded [01:56] i mean upgrading [01:56] I wuz gunna say - that was fast === theverant [n=thev@hlfxns0145w-142167142160.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:58] bleh. I'm too used to things closing to the task tray in KDE... :p [01:58] i just stopped the download [01:59] changing to a server for mgermany [01:59] now thats muc hbetter [01:59] 2889 kB/s [01:59] wohoooooooooo [02:00] shweet === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:09] 3357 kB/s === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Instabin [n=instabin@oh-76-5-123-160.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:12] I had problems installing the restricted driver for an nvidia geforce 6800gt. restricted drivers installed the nvidia-glx and it should have install nvidia-glx-new [02:13] I thought ubuntu tribe 4 had the nvidia 100.14.11 driver... [02:15] hmm in my restricted drivers it says lirv_gpio is enabled but not in use [02:15] *lirc_gpio [02:15] anyone have any idea what that is? [02:17] That's a IR remote driver, IIRC. [02:17] Oh yay, the logic of "Snap Inverted" has been... inverted. [02:17] IR? [02:17] d4rkmonkey: mine says the same thing [02:17] like infra red? [02:17] Yes. Infra-red remote. [02:17] d4rkmonkey: do you know how to get the nvidia-settings icon in the start menu [02:18] d4rkmonkey: do you know how to get the nvidia-settings icon in the applications menu [02:18] no? [02:18] RAOF, thats retarded. I don't even have IR on my laptop. what will it do if I disable it? [02:18] Nothing. [02:18] d4rkmonkey: I don't have ir on my desktop... [02:19] Also, it's doing nothing now, so... :) [02:19] d4rkmonkey: I just let it alone [02:19] I'm going to disable then === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:20] wow i am excited [02:20] lirc is not irda, either -- it's for IR remotes. [02:20] my ubuntu is upgrading [02:20] IRDA is severely deprecated, itself, nowadays. === seiflotf1 [n=seif@x214.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-62-86.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:23] any one know when they are going to update the restricted drivers? === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:29] Instabin, NEVAR!!!! === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:29] what? [02:29] d4rkmonkey: what ???? [02:30] I don't know? [02:30] I just felt like saying something [02:30] Instabin, ^^ [02:31] oh [02:32] d4rkmonkey: where is the status page for gusty.... [02:32] uhm [02:32] !release [02:32] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [02:32] :D [02:32] wait [02:32] no [02:32] thats not it [02:32] !gutsy [02:32] Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 [02:32] goddamn. [02:32] !updates [02:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about updates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:32] !gutsy-release [02:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about gutsy-release - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:32] !status [02:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about status - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:33] !state [02:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about state - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:33] I forget where the schedule is [02:33] !schedule [02:33] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [02:33] !help [02:33] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [02:34] !foo [02:34] foo is bar [02:34] lol [02:34] !tell d4rkmonkey foo [02:35] o_O [02:35] !foo > Instabin [02:35] !tell d4rkmonkey about foo [02:35] ? [02:35] lol [02:35] :O [02:35] meanie. [02:35] foo is bar [02:36] os[Linux 2.6.22-9-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ @ 2.41GHz] mem[Physical : 1519MB, 81.3% free] disk[Total : 216.50GB, 85.80% Free] video[nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800 GT] ] sound[] [02:36] d4rkmonkey: ^^ [02:36] ? [02:37] d4rkmonkey: sysinfo [02:38] eww I'd have to install that then [02:38] pfft [02:38] lol [02:39] Argh, compiz broke my 'del' key. [02:39] that sucks [02:39] lol [02:39] desktop-effects stop all my Amarok shortcuts for some reason [02:40] and break my MythTV [02:40] !media [02:40] Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs [02:40] !codecs [02:40] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [02:42] YEA!!! im getting my restricted extras [02:42] with out automatix [02:43] argfh, ctrl-shift-arrow is also broken. [02:43] Now I can't select text that way. === Instabin wounders if dvd player will work.... [02:43] DanaG: What was ctrl-shift-arrow [02:44] DanaG: did you install compiz settings manager === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-71-198-55-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ahuman [n=oem@ool-18b8b7f4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gpd3454 [i=gpd454@devnu11.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:47] How do i setup the desktop corner short cuts..... === archis [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Instabin [n=instabin@oh-76-5-123-160.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:54] lol i crashed my x server [02:54] I tryed to run glxgears [02:54] I tryed to run glxgears -info [02:57] !dvd [02:57] For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs [03:00] aah, enhanced-zoom is stealing ctrl-shift-arrow. Bad! === marginoferror [n=andrewsg@c-76-21-215-86.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:01] yea!!! i have dvd playback [03:03] Anyone know why the FUSE ntfs driver simply fails to display files with non-ASCII names? [03:03] Is there a setting I'm missing? Like the "don't be a retard" setting in /etc/fstab? [03:03] Because you're not using the right codepage, maybe? I've got absolutely no experience, though :) [03:04] Using UTF-8? [03:04] I'm using whatever the default is. However, I've seen filesystems mounted with the wrong codepage before and they always show files with ??? filenames - not just nothing. Lemme check fastb [03:04] err, fstab [03:04] UUID=0A00172E00171FED /media/hdd1 ntfs-fuse defaults,nls=utf8,uid=1000 [03:05] I AM using utf8. But maybe that's part of the problem, since I carried that option over from when I was using the standard driver. I'll delete that part. [03:06] Yep, that fixed it entirely. I'm guessing that's a bug. [03:07] Woo! Totally clueless help works :) === nosrednaekim [n=michael@66.19.241.170] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:12] =) [03:12] Thanks [03:12] WOOT! gutsy fixed my sound too! and i'm getting 30 minutes better battery life off the tickless option! [03:13] this is one awesome release! === RAOF wished tickless-on-x86-64 made it it :( === qbjunkie [n=Qube@S0106000ea6be3878.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === TBZ [n=st33ldi9@rrcs-24-172-7-26.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:24] How can I read the contents of GNOME.desktop? It is blank, but if I make a new session with custom name, and leave contents blank, it loads in failsafe mode? === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [03:29] sorry, wrong chan === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-119.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF302F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Agrajag [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === Bl00dFox [n=Bl00dFox@c220-239-244-94.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:24] Hi! [04:24] i just wanted to ask a question about gutsy === _emet_ [n=emet@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:27] !ask [04:27] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) === seiflotfy [n=seif@x117.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:28] hi guys [04:28] any1 there [04:29] okay [04:29] for some reason ubuntu starts wit heth0 disconnected [04:29] although [04:29] it is connected [04:29] i just upgraded from feisty [04:30] and gnome starts up very slow [04:30] :( [04:31] I wanted to ask a question about compiz fusion - I had to follow a complicated guide on how to install it using feisty [04:31] its automatically installed in gutsy right? [04:32] I believe so [04:32] Yes, it is. [04:32] but i still have to install my ATi drivers right? [04:32] maybe [04:32] that was a pain last time [04:32] try the tribe 4 live CD [04:33] just see if that runs [04:33] also if you don't do a clean install [04:33] Although if you're upgrading from Feisty with the trevinho repositories, you may have problems. [04:33] you shouldn't have to re-install anything [04:33] will the live CD come with Compiz Fusion?? [04:33] Yes. [04:33] cool [04:33] yeah the live CD will have everything that gutsy has [04:33] Ill dl it at school tomorrow [04:33] so if it works you can try out whatever [04:33] wow [04:33] i got naother question [04:33] Man the live CD is so convenient [04:34] i got a usb audio device as well as an onboard audio device [04:34] however totem uses only the usb [04:34] although i want it to use the onboard [04:34] how do i do that [04:34] seiflotfy: Install "asoundconf-gtk", then System->Preferences->Default Sound Card. [04:35] been there [04:35] done it [04:35] no help [04:35] totem still plays usign the usb [04:36] :( [04:36] System->Pref->Sound, and select the right device for the various things? [04:36] i selected my onboard for everything [04:36] still not working [04:37] i even tried it through multimedia selector [04:38] ok guys thanks for all the help === Bl00dFox [n=Bl00dFox@c220-239-244-94.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:42] hi all, i-m running kde4 on gutsi t4... i ve these issues with the kmenu (duplicated entries) > http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4738/kde5ma1.png [04:44] I can't even get kde4 to start, so I can't help there. === Jacob [n=jacobmp@ubuntu/member/jacob] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:45] DanaG: i just install the packages with adept and followed these instructions http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php [04:46] *installed [04:46] When I tried that, various things (such as the window manager) crashed. [04:46] Danafrom gutsy trice 4? [04:47] *tribe [04:47] I haven't tried since about a week ago. [04:47] I might as well give it another try now. === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-62-86.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:48] I wish there were a metapackage of kde4. [04:48] DanaG: i istalled all but *dev and followed that [04:48] To run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop, edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4. [04:49] so i can start kde4 or 3 from the login [04:49] menu === IdleOne [n=idleone@unaffiliated/idleone] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:53] Stupid 3-megabit connection -- while it's certainly not the worst, it's still rather lame. [04:54] Too bad I'm not on my college campus right now -- then I'd be downloading at nearly a gigabit. [04:54] GbE on my laptop + insanely fat pipes on "Internet2" == the win. [04:54] s/the/teh/ [04:56] The first time I downloaded something from kernel.org using that connection, I immediately noticed the insane download speeds I was getting: roughly 20000 kilobytes per second. (yes, twenty thousand.) [04:56] Compare that to my measly 380 here at home. [04:57] Well, anyway, I'll have to wait a few hours for the download to finish. [04:57] s/a few/one or two/ === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RxDx [n=Rodrigo@201-75-182-77-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-62-86.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RxDx [n=Rodrigo@201-75-182-77-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br] has left #Ubuntu+1 ["Saindo"] === RxDx [n=Rodrigo@201-75-182-77-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mon^rch [n=anonymou@S0106000fea33f1bb.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:11] im running Gutsy Tribe4, and 3D effects arent running ok... i cant see the menu bars. (nVidia GeForce 6200) === Frost^ [n=sweiss@CBL217-132-115-130.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === archis_ [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu+1 === archis_ [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === jonathan__ [n=emet@c-66-176-105-118.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-6.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xsacha [n=xsacha@58.173.233.189] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:38] Oh yay, my Home key is broken, too. === voidmage [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xsacha [n=xsacha@58.173.233.189] has left #ubuntu+1 ["eye-arr-see] === allbert [n=allberto@60.52.14.17] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@cpe-66-108-218-197.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@unaffiliated/databuddy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF157B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Shadow_mil [n=shaddy@SilentFlame/Member/pdpc.active.Shadow-mil] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:58] will Gutsy have beryl || compiz || whatever, by default? [05:58] or do we not know? [05:59] I heard humors they wanted to put it into feisty [05:59] it's already got compiz fusion by default [05:59] It currently has Compiz + Fusion by default. [05:59] I believe that's likely to be removed before release, though, because drivers still suck. [05:59] Hmmmm [06:00] s/removed/not enabled by default/ [06:00] It'll still be trivially enabled. [06:00] RAOF: is it? where'd you hear that? [06:00] RAOF: it should auto-fallback on cards that dont support it, though === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:00] Hobbsee: From Amaranth, after #ubuntu-devel hated on Compiz for a while :) === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:00] do you know if they put it into feisty Kubuntu? [06:01] RAOF: but you didnt hear that from the release team and such [06:01] Shadow_mil: they havent [06:01] Hobbsee: Yeah, but even on drivers where it nominally works it breaks important stuff. Video, for example :)( [06:01] I would say that the Kubuntu team should just save the work, and wait til KDE4.0, since QT/KDE4 will have openGL stuff in it [06:01] Hobbsee: No, I didn't hear it from anyone on the release team. === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.39] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:03] RAOF: this is true, but the release team knows that if htey pull it from a tribe, it'll be incredibly hard for it to get back into the release. [06:03] RAOF: iv'e got the feeling that they'll press thru with it anyway. [06:03] Hobbsee: That'd be cool, and I think that Xorg 7.3 fixes some of the more annoying bugs. [06:03] It still wouldn't surprise me if it slipped, sadly. [06:04] *again* [06:04] we have 7.3 now, dont we? [06:04] Not last I checked, but maybe. [06:04] No. We have xserver-xorg 1.3, which is clearly a part of Xorg 7.2 [06:05] Why should versioning make sense! Stop saying words! === burner_ [n=burner@c-67-172-157-202.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:05] RAOF: haha [06:05] RAOF: right === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1FBDB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:06] Bryce is working to get 7.3 in. [06:06] What does 7.3 give? [06:07] Working EXA for a start. [06:07] RAOF: when's it released? [06:08] The ati, and possibly the intel, drivers also gain working Xv under Composite. [06:08] Hobbsee: August, or so says the infrequently-updated release page. [06:08] RAOF: heh, right [06:08] all i'm looking for is Xv + composite. totem hates compiz. :) [06:09] Jacob: Fixed. For ati certainly. And probably for intel, although I'm less sure. [06:09] And since that's just covered the set of Compiz-capable open-drivers cards... :) [06:09] nope, not yet for intel, although i've subscribed to the bug and it seems progress is underway === lymeca [n=lymeca@unaffiliated/lymeca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:13] What kernel version will Gutsy have? [06:13] 2.6.22 [06:13] 2.6.23? [06:14] aye [06:14] with 23 not be out in time? [06:14] No [06:14] It's a shame because 2.6.23 will have the new scheduler and Xen === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:16] Oh...kay, I just installed the new KDE4. [06:16] Everything is completely broken. [06:17] Desktop is empty except for a thingy in the upper left, and the panel is entirely empty. [06:17] this is a surprise? [06:17] this is likely as plasma is a WIP [06:17] I expected it to have some semblance of _trying_ to work. [06:17] the libs should work. [06:17] the GUI shouldnt [06:18] I'd use this analogy: broken is a car with missing or damaged pieces. kde4 is just a bunch of parts lying around. [06:18] Oh, somebody else gave me the impression that it was supposed to be at least something try-able. === theoros [n=theoros@unaffiliated/theoros] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:19] Oh yeah, perhaps part of it is that I do not also have kde3 installed. [06:19] that may not help, no === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG is now known as danag === danag is now known as DanaG [06:22] Back to Gnome. [06:22] Well, at least it was polite enough to leave my kde3 settings alone. === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:23] (I do have kcontrol installed, because I want to be able to change those settings.) === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:25] DanaG: of course it does. kde4 uses ~/.kde4 [06:26] Hmm, yet this news thingy shows more stuff working. http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta1.php [06:27] I still can't figure out why my 'del' key suddenly broke. [06:28] All I get is a few notifies and this: [06:28] KeymapNotify event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x0, keys: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [06:29] "Support for random background colours per tab". Wow. [06:32] Well, dolphin works. kmahjongg works. Other stuff may still work. === tulga [n=chatzill@202.72.243.66] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:34] someone use ltsp on gutsy? === lymeca_ [n=lymeca@unaffiliated/lymeca] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === boredand1logging [n=nali@c-24-98-177-125.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-71-198-55-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:00] Arfgh, my delete key is still broken. === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:02] Oh, and I got a couple of segfaults after one of the init-scripts. [07:03] mounting nfs still doesn't work? did my monday morning update now, but things look to be as they were on friday. === Hobbsee notes that the devs dont tend to work 24/7 [07:07]