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[04:35] <agoliveira> YAY! Finally got dates to correctly compile with UME version of libosso. Now let's find out if it works :) If it does, should be very trivial to port the other applications, just a matter of fixing some deprecated code.
[04:35] <agoliveira> and hildon!
[06:39] <CIA-20:#ubuntu-installer> ubiquity: evand * r2183 ubiquity/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[06:39] <CIA-20:#ubuntu-installer> ubiquity: * Merged in changes to modify the way pages are called. This is
[06:39] <CIA-20:#ubuntu-installer> ubiquity:  necessary to support page skipping in automatic mode.
[06:39] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> There is still work to do, but I wanted to clean this up and get it in trunk before I continued.
[07:23] <mjg59> agoliveira: Hi
[07:23] <agoliveira> mjg59 : hello!
[07:23] <mjg59> agoliveira: You mailed me earlier
[07:24] <mjg59> Is now a good time to discuss the browser stuff?
[07:24] <agoliveira> Yes but we had a twist in that
[07:25] <mjg59> Heh
[07:25] <agoliveira> Later I was reminded that we don't need to worry about the browser for now
[07:25] <mjg59> Ok
[07:25] <agoliveira> Hold on a second...
[07:27] <agoliveira> mjg59, If you're willing, what about take a look at the camera application, cheese?
[07:28] <mjg59> agoliveira: Sure
[07:29] <agoliveira> mjg59: Thanks. Right now we should have the bases covered but it will deppend on a test I'm finishing here so we might have to change that later. I should have more info tomorrow.
[09:00] <agoliveira> rusty_: Hi pal. Have a minute?
[09:03] <rusty_> agoliveira, just got back to me computer... what's up?
[09:04] <agoliveira> rusty_, I would like your opinion on something. I'll send you a .deb for the dates (part of PIM) and I would like you to install you there and tell me what you think, ok?
[09:05] <rusty_> agoliveira, ok
[09:05] <rusty_> agoliveira, or... can you just put the deb file on some server?
[09:05] <rusty_> you have a web server or something?
[09:06] <agoliveira> rusty_: Sorry, just sent to your email. It's small but if you can't get it I can put it somewhere.
[09:07] <rusty_> no problem
[09:07] <agoliveira> rusty_: Maybe you have to update also libosso to my experimental version. Let me know if you have problems running it.
[09:08] <rusty_> seems i need to add some dependencies 
[09:09] <agoliveira> Yes
[09:09] <rusty_> libecal1?
[09:10] <agoliveira> libecal1.2-7
[09:10] <rusty_> ok
[09:10] <agoliveira> You will also need evolution-dataserver and something else I don't remember but apt-get -f install should solve it.
[09:13] <agoliveira> rusty_: I don't know about you but looks like the interface is kind of hildonized?
[09:14] <agoliveira> I'm not sure about what I saw there
[09:14] <rusty_> agoliveira, the app is segfaulting when i try to start it
[09:14] <rusty_> but this could be because my chroot is messed up.... i don't remember what state i left it in
[09:14] <agoliveira> Hmmm
[09:14] <rusty_> hmmm.... worked this time
[09:15] <agoliveira> Perhaps soem socket flaoting around
[09:15] <agoliveira> So, what you think?
[09:15] <rusty_> let me poke around on in
[09:16] <rusty_> s/in/it/
[09:16] <agoliveira> I mean, it works but it's creepy...
[09:16] <rusty_> i think i'm missing icons for the bar on the bottom
[09:17] <agoliveira> Me too
[09:17] <rusty_> i see what looks like several buttons that are a blank page with a red X
[09:17] <rusty_> i can see clicking on the far left will create an appointment
[09:17] <agoliveira> I got those too but do you get the date lines in the middle?
[09:17] <rusty_> but i'm not sure what the other ones do
[09:18] <agoliveira> I mean in the main inteface
[09:19] <rusty_> oh... i see, it's cal views
[09:19] <agoliveira> Yes. Can you see the menus when you click up?
[09:19] <rusty_> in the middle set of buttons, it's show yesterday, today, and tomorrow
[09:20] <rusty_> and the far right it's workweek view, or just today
[09:21] <rusty_> i see a dialog open when i click on an event
[09:21] <agoliveira> So it's mostly working for you too.
[09:21] <rusty_> is that what you are asking?
[09:21] <rusty_> yea, it works
[09:21] <rusty_> and i can drag the event around
[09:21] <agoliveira> Yes. Can you see the menus when you click in the menubar uppper left?
[09:22] <rusty_> are you talking about the button on the marquee, or the application?
[09:23] <rusty_> or... are talking about the hildon menus
[09:23] <agoliveira> The hildon menus.
[09:23] <agoliveira> ... I guess...
[09:23] <rusty_> yes, the hildon menus are working
[09:23] <agoliveira> Cool
[09:23] <agoliveira> Can we consider this "hildonized"? I mean, after fixing the icons, etc...
[09:24] <rusty_> yea, it must be hildonized if the hildon menus are working
[09:24] <rusty_> i don't much care for the date boxes
[09:24] <agoliveira> Cool. So it will not be difficult to have the applications coming out.
[09:25] <rusty_> meaning on a given column, in the upper left hand corner it has something like "13"
[09:25] <agoliveira> Let me run it again...
[09:25] <rusty_> the date box isn't a big thing... just not that great looking
[09:25] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> does the alternate installer look for a preseed file in a specific location on the CD, if there is one?
[09:26] <rusty_> agoliveira, yea, this looks like something that we could check off as done with a pretty small amount of work
[09:27] <agoliveira> Cool. I just sent you a screen capture. Confirm if this is what you're seeing, please.
[09:28] <rusty_> agoliveira, yes, that is what i am seeing
[09:28] <agoliveira> Great. The good news is that's basically the same hildon program. I just had to hack it a bit to conform with hildon-1 instead of libhildon.
[09:29] <agoliveira> After that was a matter of compile :)
[09:31] <agoliveira> The colors are weird. I'm wondering that's happening because it's not getting the theme or if it *is* getting it.
[09:32] <rusty_> agoliveira, how are you starting the app?
[09:32] <rusty_> because i just realized that you picture is not exactly like mine
[09:33] <rusty_> yours looks like you started the app without using our theme... i.e. just using default gtk theme
[09:33] <agoliveira> rusty_: I'm starting from another console to follow the process
[09:34] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> hm, it seems like the installer is getting the preseed file from the cdrom under preseed/ubuntu.seed but it's not kicking in for the initial questions
[09:34] <rusty_> agoliveira, you need to setup the environment on that console to make the app use the correct theme
[09:34] <agoliveira> Hmmm...
[09:34] <agoliveira> Right
[09:34] <rusty_> i take the .xinitrc, copy it to myenv, and gut out all the commands to exec anything
[09:35] <rusty_> then source it in my shell
[09:35] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> cr3: you can specify one using the kernel cmdline.  It uses file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed by default.
[09:35] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> evand: yeah, I was hoping that since it's on the cdrom itself, it could answer the initial questions such as locale
[09:35] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> indeed it can
[09:35] <rusty_> i suspect all that matters is setting GTK2_RC_FILES
[09:35] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> evand: /cdrom is only mounted after the question though
[09:36] <agoliveira> Yeah :)
[09:36] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> ah, hrm
[09:36] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> actually
[09:36] <agoliveira> Looks like it could use a few adjustments on the vertical as well.
[09:36] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> evand: it would be really cool if you found a workaround, it would certainly streamline some of my operations
[09:37] <agoliveira> I'll try to install on the Q1 now and see how it goes
[09:37] <rusty_> ok
[09:37] <agoliveira> Thanks for the help.
[09:37] <rusty_> np
[10:03] <agoliveir1> YAY! Works on the Q1 too :-D
[10:07] <agoliveir1> bobux: Hi Bob. Were the clouds-passing-by background your idea? It's "windows'ish" but kinda cool :)
[10:12] <mfrey> can someone help me with the best way to set up a kernel dev environment to do driver work for the UME kernel?  I know how this is done with the moblin kernel but just not with UME.
[10:19] <agoliveir1> mfrey: Our friend amitk_ would be the person to answer that.
[10:22] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> evand: any ideas?
[10:23] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> cr3: testing now, it only picked up my partitioner choices, which is a bit odd.
[10:23] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> perhaps this is a regression
[10:27] <amitk_> mfrey: There is nothing special with the UME kernel just yet. So you PC/laptop environment works great
[10:28] <amitk_> s/you/your
[10:28] <mfrey> amitk_:  I want to make sure the kernel versions match so I can load a module built on my laptop in UME.  How can I do that
[10:29] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> evand: I'll test feisty
[10:31] <amitk_> mfrey: creating a chroot environment for gutsy would be a good way to isolate your UME builds. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot is your friend. Replace Feisty with Gutsy
[10:31] <mfrey> amitk_:  ok thanks 
[10:32] <amitk_> mfrey: after this. just use the ubuntu kernel build process and build for the UME flavour. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance#head-ef6ca858b4b97c1ad30639e34d92abb11ef37cf8 is your friend for that
[10:33] <mfrey> amitk_: thanks
[10:33] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> evand: heh, you'd love this script, I tested feisty with these simple commands: sudo vmware-ubuntu iso_preseed gutsy-alternate-i386.iso /tmp/gutsy.iso; vmware-ubuntu create Ubuntu-test; vmware-ubuntu cdrom_to_iso Ubuntu-test /tmp/gutsy.iso; vmware-ubuntu start Ubuntu-test
[10:33] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> doesn't work on feisty either, now lets try edgy :)
[10:35] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> ahh, I'm an idiot.
[10:35] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> I'm trying using url, because it's easier.  But that obviously does not work.
[10:35] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> tested edgy and doesn't work either
[10:36] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> all tests were run by overwriting the preseed/ubuntu.seed file
[10:42] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> cr3: you need to put the preseed file in the initrd if you want to seed questions that get asked before the cd
[10:43] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preseed-intro.html
[10:45] <cr3:#ubuntu-installer> evand: two questions: 1. what must be the name of the preseed file in the root of the initrd directory? 2. does that preseed override the preseed/ubuntu.seed file?
[10:46] <evand:#ubuntu-installer> 1. preseed.cfg 2. not sure