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| jdong | Riddell: kinda a late answer, but yeah, the second upload of ktorrent (-0ubuntu3) was confirmed to close bug 130300 by several people | 12:31 |
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| ubotu | Launchpad bug 130300 in feisty-backports "[gutsy] ktorrent 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 crash when I quit the program when uPnP plugin is loaded" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130300 | 12:31 |
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| nixternal | what happened to openoffice.org base? | 04:46 |
| nixternal | seeing as we got rid of kexi as our default dbase app | 04:47 |
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| _StefanS_ | Riddell: morning.. I'm preparing that list of files now | 09:32 |
| Riddell | great | 09:32 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: yea sorry for not providing it earlier, but had to attend to family stuff | 09:33 |
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| Riddell | fair enough | 09:36 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: the other updates I got today in lpia were they because of the changes to the packages you uploaded ? | 09:38 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: because of dependencies I mean.. | 09:39 |
| Riddell | dunno, depends on what the updates were | 09:39 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm ok.. | 09:39 |
| _StefanS_ | argh.. seems like the new updates has screwed up includes for gcc | 09:39 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: /usr/include/bits/types.h:31:20: error: stddef.h: No such file or directory | 09:39 |
| _StefanS_ | and bunch of other stuff as well | 09:40 |
| _StefanS_ | hmm | 09:40 |
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| _StefanS_ | Riddell: configure: error: Your Installation isn't able to compile simple C++ programs.... great. | 10:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: know where to start ? libstdc++ is installed | 10:04 |
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| _StefanS_ | hey hobbs | 10:05 |
| Hobbsee | hi _StefanS_ | 10:07 |
| Riddell | g++ installed? | 10:09 |
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| _StefanS_ | Riddell: yep | 10:16 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: linux-headers, libstdc++* , glibc | 10:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: gcc3, gcc4.x, g++ | 10:17 |
| _StefanS_ | I dont get it | 10:17 |
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| Riddell | _StefanS_: what are you trying to compile? | 10:22 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: digikam, libnjb.. nothing works anymore | 10:23 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: cant even compile simple c++ programs | 10:23 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: checking if C++ programs can be compiled... no :) | 10:25 |
| Riddell | "error: stddef.h: No such file or directory" hmm | 10:26 |
| _StefanS_ | yea.. | 10:26 |
| Riddell | njb is complaining about no libusb headers | 10:29 |
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| _StefanS_ | yep | 10:32 |
| _StefanS_ | but I thats even when they're installed :) | 10:32 |
| Riddell | go complain to doko I guess | 10:32 |
| _StefanS_ | done.. | 10:33 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: whats inifinity's mail address? | 10:33 |
| Riddell | adam.conrad@ whatever | 10:34 |
| Riddell | doko@ubuntu too | 10:34 |
| Riddell | (for doko obviously) | 10:34 |
| _StefanS_ | yep ok | 10:37 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: adam.conrad<at>ubuntu.com ? | 10:40 |
| Riddell | yes | 10:42 |
| _StefanS_ | mail sent. | 10:43 |
| Riddell | mepis's KDE 4 CD uses my KDE 4 packages, despite slagging off Ubuntu and changing to Debian | 10:43 |
| Riddell | oh and there's no source for them | 10:43 |
| _StefanS_ | not really professional is it ? :) | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | guess thats a breach in GPL as well.. | 10:44 |
| Riddell | somehow kicker seems to be working though | 10:45 |
| _StefanS_ | shouldn't it? | 10:45 |
| Riddell | didn't for me | 10:45 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: doko is looking into that wierd build issue.. its gcc-4.2 that has problems | 10:45 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: hope that mail I sent is somehow understandable. Atleast you have debdiff this time :) | 10:46 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: just change them to work only with kubuntu :P | 10:47 |
| _StefanS_ | I can help with introducing random bugs if its not running on kubuntu :D | 10:48 |
| Hobbsee | that's the one | 10:48 |
| _StefanS_ | :) | 10:48 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: oh doko found the bug | 11:00 |
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| Riddell | glatzor: software-properties-gtk --no-update still does an update on close | 11:25 |
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| glatzor | Riddell: indeed. this is a bug. | 11:30 |
| Riddell | glatzor: I'm implementing the opposite for -kde (so it has an update option), want me to implement --no-update for gtk? | 11:32 |
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| glatzor | Riddell: we could also remove the option at all. | 11:36 |
| Riddell | glatzor: I need it for calling from adept, it has its own updater | 11:39 |
| glatzor | but this would require to patch the synaptic patch | 11:39 |
| glatzor | Riddell: the gtk frontend only performs a check if there isn't any transient_for | 11:39 |
| glatzor | but this is wrong | 11:40 |
| glatzor | Thanks for pointing me at this | 11:43 |
| glatzor | Riddell: the infimport module of guidance does not get shipped in the guidance-backends | 11:44 |
| glatzor | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/131669 | 11:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 131669 in kde-guidance "guidance-backends does not include the new infimport module" [Undecided,New] | 11:44 |
| Riddell | let me fix that | 11:45 |
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| Riddell | glatzor: you didn't add it to setup.py so it wasn't being installed. fixed in svn and uploaded to ubuntu | 12:13 |
| glatzor | Riddell: oh, I mainly work in a displayconfig only subtree. :) | 12:15 |
| Riddell | :) | 12:16 |
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| Riddell | no amarok packaging volunteers yet? | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | seems not | 02:07 |
| Riddell | I'll do it thursday morning if nobody has stepped up by then | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: check with imbrandon, i guess, but feel free to take it | 02:11 |
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| \sh | amarok? new version for gutsy or updates for feisty? | 02:20 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: networkstatus still depends on kdepimmacros.h.. how to do solve that the easiest way ? (I'm getting good progress on compiling it, btw) | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: the former | 02:23 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: I'm talking about kdelibs+networkstatus, in case you forgot about it :D | 02:24 |
| Riddell | \sh: gutsy | 02:24 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: if it's just a bunch of macros you could probably just copy the .h files to kdelibs? | 02:25 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: I'll try that. | 02:25 |
| \sh | Riddell: Let me check this evening at home :) hopefully my buildserver is back then | 02:25 |
| Riddell | \sh: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/amarok/1.4.7/src/amarok-1.4.7.tar.bz2 is where it's at | 02:28 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: seems to work now. Just put kdepimmacros.h in networkstatus/ dir. It actually just includes two regular .h files (kdeversion, kdemacros.h + a define check) | 02:28 |
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| Riddell | although that location (on a public ftp server) is top secret | 02:28 |
| _StefanS_ | I guess if you told him now, you have to kill him :D | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: there's something seriously wrong with that statement... | 02:30 |
| \sh | Riddell, noted | 02:30 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: tis not for us to question the wisdom of apachelogger | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: indeed. | 02:34 |
| apachelogger_ | hm | 02:39 |
| apachelogger_ | oh | 02:39 |
| apachelogger_ | eh | 02:39 |
| apachelogger_ | lol :P | 02:39 |
| apachelogger_ | Riddell: gotta change that for .8 or 2.0 beta1, whichever comes first | 02:40 |
| apachelogger_ | yesterday some news sites told 1.4.7 was out | 02:40 |
| apachelogger_ | so either we have a mole or they just watched the server | 02:40 |
| apachelogger_ | though I think the latter might be a boring job | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger_: wasnt me... | 02:40 |
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| Hobbsee | yes, yes, it's all jdong's fault. | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | !jdong | jdong | 02:41 |
| ubotu | jdong: jdong is Hobbsee: jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK! | 02:41 |
| apachelogger_ | markey is already investigating! | 02:41 |
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| Riddell | these things are scriptable | 02:45 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: the correct way to do it is to just change the permissions to not be chown ftprelease:packages and not be readable to other | 02:46 |
| Riddell | infact it already is, so just chmod 660 | 02:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, I'm not sure whether everyone who gets packaging notifiation for amarok has an packager account on ktown | 02:48 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: do you know if 'networkstatustestservice' is needed from networkstatus ? | 02:48 |
| apachelogger | I guess I'll just store the next release on amarok.kde.org until official release | 02:48 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: I've no idea | 02:48 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: its put under noinst_PROGRAMS in the Makefile.in | 02:48 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: although the networkstatus.install seems to want to install it | 02:49 |
| Riddell | probably not then | 02:49 |
| _StefanS_ | thanks for the help :D | 02:49 |
| _StefanS_ | and all the fish. | 02:49 |
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| _StefanS_ | Riddell: should I strip out the .svn entries from inside networkstatus/ or do you want to keep them for reference? | 02:58 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: I don't want them | 02:59 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: ok, I'll just remove them. | 02:59 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: any way to recover when the diff's arent reversible in the source? | 03:00 |
| Riddell | work out why they aren't? | 03:00 |
| Riddell | debian/patches/*log | 03:00 |
| Riddell | something will have edited one of the files | 03:00 |
| _StefanS_ | yes.. the file cant be found. Great. | 03:01 |
| _StefanS_ | I'm just going to piece a new archive together | 03:01 |
| _StefanS_ | cant bothered to figure that out | 03:02 |
| viviersf | is beagle or tracker gonna be installed by default in gutsy ? | 03:06 |
| manchicken | Is koffice2 alpha2 included in the kde4 packages? | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | viviersf: tracker is already in ubuntulog | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | viviersf: tracker is already in ubuntu | 03:07 |
| viviersf | Hobbsee, the thing is | 03:07 |
| viviersf | on a default install of gutsy i see tracker is installed | 03:07 |
| viviersf | but | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | strigi is installed in kubuntu, iijrc | 03:07 |
| viviersf | i can remove it without affecting ubuntu-desktop | 03:07 |
| viviersf | how on earth does it get installed ? | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | viviersf: recommends. | 03:08 |
| viviersf | hmmmf | 03:08 |
| viviersf | tracker doesnt seem to work tho | 03:08 |
| viviersf | or does it just takes long to build the database ? | 03:10 |
| Riddell | you'd need to ask on an ubuntu channel about tracker | 03:11 |
| Riddell | packages in section metapackage have their recommends installed by default | 03:11 |
| viviersf | kk | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | even in universe, now! | 03:12 |
| Riddell | I'm sure that's always been the case | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | no it hasnt | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | only main before | 03:13 |
| \sh | Riddell, any branches on LP bzr hosts somewhere? | 03:14 |
| \sh | Riddell, speaking of amarok? | 03:14 |
| Riddell | \sh: no, but debian does so we should branch theirs and do the whole branch/merge thing | 03:16 |
| Riddell | and host on launchpad | 03:16 |
| \sh | Riddell, will have a look what we can do | 03:17 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Is there anything different that needs to be done? | 03:22 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Adept is getting kinda dull. I'll still keep playing with it from time to time, but it would be nice to play with something else, too. | 03:22 |
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| manchicken | Riddell: And I suppose I could be persuaded to play with Python if it meant something interesting to play with. | 03:24 |
| Riddell | manchicken: package qtjambi? | 03:25 |
| Riddell | also qdasher and qt accessibility bridge | 03:25 |
| manchicken | I could learn to package. | 03:26 |
| manchicken | Of those which would you like me to start on? | 03:26 |
| manchicken | first | 03:26 |
| Riddell | qtjambi I think | 03:26 |
| Riddell | place to start would be just to get it compiling and working | 03:27 |
| Riddell | I don't even know if it works with gcj or needs sun java | 03:27 |
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| Riddell | manchicken: any idea why the description in adept is showing the maintainer? | 03:29 |
| Riddell | in adept_manager | 03:29 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Nope. I asked the same question about a week ago. | 03:30 |
| manchicken | Is it doing that on your branch? | 03:30 |
| manchicken | That should be an easy solution. | 03:30 |
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| manchicken | I think the kdesudo change is getting things wrong with the kvpnc launcher. | 03:31 |
| manchicken | Argh, it's a kdelibs5 issue. | 03:32 |
| manchicken | That's bad. I can't work without kvpnc | 03:32 |
| Riddell | don't use KDE 4? | 03:37 |
| manchicken | I've got dingleberries from when I compiled it myself. | 03:44 |
| manchicken | for X in $(ls -1); do P="$PWD/$X"; Y=$(dpkg -S $P); if [ "$Y" = "dpkg: $P not found." ] ; then echo "$P"; fi; done | 03:44 |
| manchicken | That should tell me which ones are not packaged :) | 03:44 |
| manchicken | This is all in /usr/local/bin, too. | 03:44 |
| manchicken | But kdesudo is screwing up kvpnc | 03:45 |
| manchicken | I think it's running kvpnc as a different user than kdesu used to. | 03:45 |
| manchicken | I'll try copying some config files. | 03:49 |
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| manchicken | Well, I had to reconfigure kvpnc (a task in and of itself), but not too terrible. | 04:15 |
| manchicken | Their new wizard is nice, but they need to stop assuming that everybody is familiar with the latest networking. | 04:16 |
| manchicken | I had to read up on CIDR subnet masks just to get the damned thing configured. | 04:16 |
| Riddell | that sounds like something out of 24 | 04:16 |
| manchicken | heh | 04:16 |
| manchicken | You and your man-dramas. | 04:17 |
| manchicken | Although I can't really say anything there... I'm a CSI fan. | 04:17 |
| manchicken | It's just counting bits, and it makes sense once you see the wikipedia article, but it's definitely a different way of doing things than I've done before. | 04:19 |
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| DaSkreech | HI Hobbsee | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | heya DaSkreech | 05:15 |
| DaSkreech | How are you? | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | doing OK | 05:16 |
| Hobbsee | working thru the sponsorship queue again | 05:16 |
| nixternal | good mornin' my lil Kubuntu'oblins | 05:26 |
| === Hobbsee snorts | ||
| Hobbsee | uh, hi! | 05:27 |
| === mhb grunts | ||
| === mhb is the fantasy type of Kubuntu'oblin, the green one with a big club | ||
| nixternal | snorts and grunts...i love it :) | 05:32 |
| DaSkreech | Zug zug! | 05:32 |
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| nixternal | boo! | 05:39 |
| bddebian | Heya | 05:40 |
| bddebian | Hehe nixternal :-) | 05:40 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/kio_sysinfo/trunk/ | 06:21 |
| Riddell | now in svn | 06:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: dirk says to let him know if there's anything to merge | 06:21 |
| apachelogger | hooray :D | 06:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: iirc, the patches just made the whole thing more generic, use lsb file for system detection and rename the css file, nothing that might be interesting for them | 06:24 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: well that is interesting to them, they're looking to open it up to more distros | 06:24 |
| Riddell | so you could add kubuntu and/or kde artwork | 06:25 |
| apachelogger | well, gotta have a look into it and mail master dirk the patches then | 06:25 |
| Riddell | great | 06:26 |
| Riddell | you should be able to get an svn account too if they like you | 06:26 |
| apachelogger | muahaha, access to opensuse ^_^ | 06:27 |
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| ScarFreewill | when I try to install kde4 beta1 (apt-get -s install kde4base-dev) I get the following: kde4base-dev: Depends: kdelibs5-dev but it is not going to be installed and Depends: kdepimlibs4-dev but it is not going to be installed | 06:42 |
| ScarFreewill | i've got feisty aswell as feisty-backports in my repostory | 06:42 |
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| Riddell | install kdelibs5-dev and work out why it isn't being installed | 06:46 |
| ScarFreewill | kdelibs5-dev: Depends: kdelibs5 (= 3.80.3-0ubuntu4) but it is not going to be installed + Depends: libqt4-dev but it is not going to be installed | 06:47 |
| Riddell | recurse | 06:47 |
| Riddell | 3.80 isn't beta | 06:48 |
| Riddell | feisty or gutsy? | 06:48 |
| ScarFreewill | i know i've got beta on atm want to install beta | 06:48 |
| ScarFreewill | feisty | 06:48 |
| ScarFreewill | i mean i've got alpha atm | 06:49 |
| Riddell | do you have feisty-backports enabled? | 06:49 |
| ScarFreewill | yes deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main universe multiverse restricted + deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main universe multiverse restricted | 06:50 |
| ScarFreewill | that is all I have. | 06:50 |
| Riddell | what does apt-cache policy kdelibs5 give you | 06:53 |
| ScarFreewill | should i past or paste bin or prt ? | 06:54 |
| ScarFreewill | *paste | 06:54 |
| Riddell | pastebin | 06:54 |
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| ScarFreewill | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33717/ | 06:56 |
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| ScarFreewill | my firefox also crashes randomly while running google's web chat I blame java vm but its just odd (first time i'm experincing some thing like this) | 06:58 |
| Riddell | google web chat doesn't use java | 06:59 |
| Riddell | ScarFreewill: it's not seeing backports | 07:00 |
| Riddell | run apt-get update maybe | 07:00 |
| ScarFreewill | i've got a pin though just for testing | 07:00 |
| ScarFreewill | but i'm sure it was like this before the pin | 07:01 |
| Riddell | well the candidate is not from backports | 07:01 |
| === ScarFreewill clears /etc/apt/preferences | ||
| === ScarFreewill does apt-get update | ||
| ScarFreewill | now I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33718/ | 07:05 |
| Riddell | 17:46 < Riddell> install kdelibs5-dev and work out why it isn't being installed | 07:06 |
| ScarFreewill | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33719/ | 07:09 |
| ScarFreewill | kdelibs5 libsoprano-dev libqt4-dev not one of them installs either | 07:11 |
| Riddell | so.. do the same for them | 07:12 |
| Riddell | until you actually get a reason why it won't install | 07:12 |
| ScarFreewill | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33720/ looks like its some qt libs | 07:14 |
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| ScarFreewill | ok i think its qt4-core | 07:16 |
| ScarFreewill | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33721/ | 07:16 |
| Riddell | should be sorted now I expect | 07:17 |
| === ScarFreewill takes away the -s and starts to download | ||
| === ScarFreewill hopes it wil work thanks for the help so far Riddell :D | ||
| ScarFreewill | I've got another problem: Package dbus-x11 is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package dbus-x11 has no installation candidate | 07:28 |
| ScarFreewill | it appears that dbus-x11 is only avalible for gusty | 07:33 |
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| ScottK | ScarFreewill: There's a later version of the package that's demanding it in feisty-backports that doesn't need it. | 07:36 |
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| ScarFreewill | ScottK: how do you recommend how I should install it ? i treid sudo apt-get -s -t feisty install dbus-x11 | 07:38 |
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| ScottK | I don't recall which package it is that wants dbus-x11, but whichever it is, it's been updates in feisty-backports to not need it anymore. | 07:42 |
| ScottK | I'd try sudo apt-get update and then apt-get -f install and see if it resolves. | 07:43 |
| ScarFreewill | ok | 07:43 |
| ScarFreewill | i'm still getting "kdelibs5: Depends: dbus-x11 but it is not installable" | 07:45 |
| ScottK | Hmmm. Let me check something. | 07:46 |
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| ScottK | OK. That's a different package than I saw the bug on. It was Bug #130542 that I was thinking of. Sorry. Dunno what you should do next. | 07:48 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 130542 in feisty-backports "strigi-daemon 0.5.4: Depends: dbus-x11 but it is not installable" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130542 | 07:48 |
| ScarFreewill | ScottK: can i try to install the gusty pkg? | 07:50 |
| ScottK | ScarFreewill: I really have no idea. | 07:50 |
| ScarFreewill | i'll try it anyways ^_^ | 07:51 |
| ScottK | I'm not personally playing with KDE4, I'd just seen the bug in backports. | 07:51 |
| ScarFreewill | I should most propperly make a bug report.. | 07:53 |
| ScottK | ScarFreewill: Please do. If the package you had the problem with is in feisty-backports, please file the bug in feisty-backports. | 07:54 |
| ScarFreewill | will do. | 07:54 |
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| miles | hey i am interested in getting a mentor for development | 09:30 |
| miles | can someone give me some details? | 09:30 |
| ScottK | miles: It generally works better to find some task you want to work on (fixing bugs that annoy you is a good place to start), figure out what you can, and then ask specific questions. | 09:34 |
| miles | ok, so i cant get paired up with a mentor and follow their lead? | 09:35 |
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| ScottK | I don't think there is a specific mentoring program for Kubuntu. MOTU has one. You can ask in #ubuntu-motu if that's what you are looking for. | 09:39 |
| miles | ok, thanks | 09:39 |
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| _StefanS_ | Riddell: packaging for kdelibs+networkstatus is done. I'll send it to you tomorrow. | 10:07 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: If you have a moment to play archive admin would you? I'm trying to get a sync done prior to UVF: Bug #132543 | 11:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 132543 in pypolicyd-spf "Please sync pypolicyd-spf 0.4.1-1 from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132543 | 11:34 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ask seb128, he's doing syncs this evening | 11:35 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I will. Thanks. | 11:35 |
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