[12:18] <killown|away> how do i to create cache dns ?
[12:19] <aguitel> what the name of the download manager
[12:20] <AloBlumenau>  passdb backend = tbsam what does it means?
[12:22] <gandimere> hello , just signed into this chat for the first time , i am needing assistance  with a problem installing kubuntu 6.06 lts ...pls
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> stdin: did karen get her wireless working?
[12:24] <stdin> nosrednaekim: no, we tried ndiswrapper but it said it was the wrong driver
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> crap
[12:24] <stdin> nosrednaekim: I did find something on the forums that may work tho
[12:25] <stdin> nosrednaekim: we only stopped half an hour ago...
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> stdin: hmm..ok
[12:26] <urilock_> hello?
[12:27] <urilock_> anyone?
[12:27] <aguitel> stdin,what download manager can i use with kde ?
[12:27] <andrej_> kget
[12:27] <andrej_> kget is a kde download manager
[12:27] <aguitel> i cannot see in synaptic
[12:27] <urilock_> im new to linux
[12:28] <shadowhywind> is there some command that i can run to check to see if i have an internet connection or not?
[12:28] <gandimere> me too
[12:28] <andrej_> aguitel, just type: sudo apt-get install kget
[12:28] <aguitel> not pakage found say
[12:29] <andrej_> I have a question about knetworkmanager. Can I convince it to use a custom wpasupplicant configuration file?
[12:29] <gandimere> Is there someone who might be able to help me with a problem I am having (mouse) installing  kubuntu?
[12:29] <joe_> anyone get the logitech quickcam working on Kubuntu?
[12:30] <urilock_> i have a logitech webcam and kubuntu
[12:30] <urilock_> but havent tried it yet
[12:30] <urilock_> let me see
[12:30] <joe_> i tried to use easycam2 and it doesnt work
[12:31] <gandimere> can anyone see what i am typing?
[12:31] <joe_> and I looked it up and its seems to be supported but doesnt work
[12:31] <urilock_> mine works on gaim
[12:32] <joe_> urilock - i tried gyache
[12:32] <joe_> doesnt work
[12:32] <urilock_> can i only use one distro at a time?
[12:33] <gandimere> can anyone see what i am typing in here?
[12:33] <urilock_> i might take a look at fedora
[12:33] <urilock_> hi gandimere
[12:33] <nosredna> stdin: wow, only a half hour ago... she must have been FRUSTRATED!
[12:33] <joe_> fedora sux
[12:33] <gandimere> hi urilock
[12:34] <stdin> nosredna: heh, getting there, but quite calm actually
[12:34] <urilock_> are there any other distros worth looking at
[12:35] <nosredna> stdin: I certainly would be!
[12:36] <urilock_> when i first changed to kubuntu, it asked me whether i like windoze mac or default
[12:36] <urilock_> i chose mac and want to go to mac
[12:36] <urilock_> but i cant find it
[12:36] <urilock_> is there a way?
[12:37] <urilock_> i chose windoze*
[12:37] <runlevelten> kpersonalizer
[12:37] <aguitel> where i can download kget?
[12:38] <johnmc> as if choosin *nix is gonna make it easy lol
[12:38] <nosredna> aguitel: same place you get verything else.... adept
[12:38] <johnmc> I had to grow into it its a bit helpful knowing a little bit
[12:39] <nosredna> urilock_: in essense, you want the menubar on the top?
[12:39] <lewis_> back
[12:39] <runlevelten> urilock left
[12:39] <aguitel> nosredna, is not in adept
[12:39] <urilock_> back
[12:40] <runlevelten> urilock_: run kpersonalizer.
[12:40] <urilock_> did i miss anything?
[12:40] <urilock_> ok
[12:41] <johnmc> docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kget/index.htm  <kget and use google tsk tsk>
[12:42] <urilock_> thanks runlevelten!
[12:42] <linux_> hello
[12:42] <runlevelten> urilock_: np :)
[12:42] <linux_> I need some help from guys here
[12:43] <lesik> )
[12:43] <linux_> I got HP Pavilion slim model for my father
[12:43] <linux_> this model has an INtel GMA900 video chip
[12:44] <lesik>  ,       
[12:44] <linux_> I got a samsung SyncMaster226BW
[12:44] <Dragnslcr> !ru | lesik
[12:44] <ubotu> lesik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:44] <linux_> which supports 1680x1050
[12:44] <stdin> lesik: /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:44] <linux_> I tried both Ubuntu/Kbuntu
[12:45] <ubuntu> i
[12:45] <linux_> when I set the resolution through "dpkg-reconfig xserver-org" with correct setting
[12:45] <linux_> If I choose 1680x1050,
[12:46] <linux_> the border part of the video always is larger than the screen itself. I couldn't make it match the screen size
[12:46] <linux_> I loaded Intel driver as well
[12:46] <linux_> any one has similiar experience and solution?
[12:46] <nosredna> linux_: is your screen capable of that res?
[12:47] <linux_> yes, it
[12:47] <linux_> it's 22 inch syncmaster
[12:47] <linux_> it says so in the mannual
[12:47] <linux_> syncMaster 226BW
[12:47] <nosredna> linux_: did you try restarting x after choosing that option?
[12:48] <linux_> yes,
[12:48] <urilock_> back
[12:48] <johnmc> aquitel: are you familiar with apt-get the auto updater? if you type 'apt-get install kget' it will find it and install it with all its dependencies if needed
[12:48] <linux_> I even tried  to select 1440x1050 or 900, but, it will not show up as an option
[12:48] <nosredna> linux_: how far is it off your monitor?
[12:49] <stdin> linux_: you may need the 915resolution package
[12:49] <linux_> it seems about 2 or 3 cm
[12:49] <linux_> off
[12:49] <johnmc> linux_ depends how much memory etc on card
[12:49] <stdin> !info 915resolution
[12:49] <aguitel> johnmc ,there are nothing package kget
[12:49] <linux_> trid 915resolutionn as well
[12:49] <linux_> same problem
[12:49] <johnmc> I just got it with kget
[12:49] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[12:50] <johnmc> I mean apt-get
[12:50] <nosredna> !info kget
[12:50] <aguitel> yes
[12:50] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 440 kB, installed size 1192 kB
[12:50] <aguitel> !kget
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <nosredna> linux_: did you try pressing your monitor's "auto adjust" button?
[12:50] <johnmc> I installed it two mins ago with 'apt-get install kget'
[12:51] <joe_> rgr that
[12:51] <aguitel> but this is my problem
[12:51] <linux_> yes, i tried auto adjust
[12:52] <linux_> at the time Ipush the butto, it comes back right for 1 second and gets back to the same problem again
[12:52] <nosredna> linux_: are your sync rates correct?
[12:52] <linux_> yes, i used the number povided by Samsung's manual
[12:53] <nosredna> linux_: odd.... are you sure your video card can handle that resolution?
[12:53] <johnmc> how much ram on the card linux_?
[12:53] <linux_> according Intel's web about GMA900
[12:54] <linux_> it can support upto 2048x??, I forgot the exact number
[12:54] <linux_> but, it can as per intel
[12:54] <stdin> linux_: you may need to add a line like "VideoRam 131072" to  your Device section
[12:54] <johnmc> sounds a lot
[12:54] <linux_> it's trhough the VGA port
[12:55] <johnmc> I have a gag, nvidia with 128
[12:55] <linux_> not sure, whether it be the ppproblem
[12:55] <johnmc> might be the xorg.conf did it work at all?
[12:55] <johnmc> or you might be trying to much color
[12:56] <linux_> now, i use 1280x1024 mode and it works ok
[12:56] <linux_> but, it's a pitty not being able to get it work to its maximum
[12:56] <linux_> and the screen is not beautiful
[12:56] <johnmc> thats all I used to get out of my old 64Mb nvidia card
[12:56] <stdin> normally if you get that problem it means either your screen or you graphics card can't handle it
[12:57] <johnmc> yeah bit like wondering why you corolla doesn't do 190 cos the speedo says it does
[01:00] <johnmc> I think Ubuntu has a HAL I must look at it
[01:00] <urilock_> i think ksmoothdock is angry with me
[01:00] <linux_> then, i guess it's Intel that I can't trust for this GMA900
[01:01] <johnmc> intel have only had chips actually working with linux for about 6 yrs all the 8xx chips used to need hours of messing round to get working
[01:01] <nosredna> linux_: have you ever gotten that resolution out of it? in windows?
[01:02] <linux_> the time i tested in windows was when I bought this HP pc in the shop
[01:02] <linux_> with their HP moniter
[01:03] <linux_> it's 1440x900 in windows setting with that monitor
[01:03] <linux_> later, I bought a syncmaster 226bw
[01:03] <linux_> and changed to Ubuntu
[01:03] <linux_> http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/gma900/index.htm
[01:03] <nosredna> linux_: notice that 1660 is bigger than 1440...
[01:04] <nosredna> *1680
[01:05] <linux_> yes, but, I am not sure that windows didn't dectect 1680 at that time might because the monitor from HP can only handle that size
[01:05] <johnmc> you could try looking at dmesg and see if it has a whinge about the video setup
[01:05] <urilock_> what is kicker, it's stopping my ksmoothdock from running
[01:05] <johnmc> if its had to use a module for the video that can slow em down
[01:05] <nosredna> urilock_: kde panel
[01:05] <johnmc> its the launcher
[01:06] <urilock_> its saying that they have the same position on the screen
[01:06] <johnmc> you need the right path in it you'll find its prolly in /sbin and /sbin isn't in the 'users' PATH
[01:07] <linux_> hi guys, thanks a lot . I have to run for now. later
[01:07] <johnmc> bye
[01:07] <urilock_> bye!
[01:09] <knuckles> hello
[01:09] <urilock_> woah
[01:09] <urilock_> im lagging like crazy
[01:09] <urilock_> and i have a fast computer
[01:11] <johnmc> me too I have limited broadband then it drops to 288 Kbps but I get a free phone :)
[01:11] <johnmc> Used to get 20 gig a month and never used it
[01:12] <xRaich[o] 2x> can anybody tell me how to select another default gcc compiler without changing the symlink ins /usr/bin?
[01:12] <johnmc> once the prog has settled I wont us the 2 gig limit
[01:12] <urilock_> back
[01:12] <johnmc> wb
[01:12] <urilock_> yay its fast again
[01:13] <johnmc> cool
[01:13] <adam_> hi
[01:13] <johnmc> mornin/evenin :)
[01:13] <biosword> hola adam
[01:13] <urilock_> haha
[01:14] <urilock_> for me it was morning 13 mins ago
[01:14] <urilock_> 00:14
[01:14] <johnmc> thought adam was sposed to be here first :)
[01:14] <johnmc> 10 am here
[01:15] <johnmc> are you east coast unlock?
[01:15] <urilock_> british
[01:15] <urilock_> lawl
[01:15] <johnmc> thats something :)
[01:16] <BigMac> Why can't kubuntu remember my network key
[01:16] <BigMac> It keeps popping up and asking me it periodically
[01:16] <johnmc> oh I should have looked at my clock its 9.15 here <grin> australia is 12 off you guys makes it easy
[01:16] <BigMac> it is very irritating
[01:16] <johnmc> the time?
[01:17] <johnmc> go into the date and time and see if its set up to get the time off the net AND found a time server
[01:18] <johnmc> otherwise turn the auto time setting off
[01:18] <urilock_> abuse is a fun game
[01:19] <urilock_> if i buy doom 3 in a store is it ready to install straight away?
[01:19] <urilock_> or would i have to modify it
[01:19] <urilock_> hmm
[01:19] <stdin> !games
[01:19] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[01:19] <stdin> urilock_: ^
[01:19] <urilock_> aye, thanks!
[01:19] <johnmc> I think downloading a linux version is your best shot
[01:24] <ubuntu> hey
[01:24] <elite101> uhh my kubuntu like crashed
[01:24] <elite101> i mounted the Other HDD to the desktop @ just mount point "/" and now it wount allow access to /etc on boot up so it cant boot :S
[01:25] <elite101> because it said another HDD is using that "/" mount point so then i didnt know that
[01:25] <elite101> and then it wount allow perimissions to /etc so i need this fixed :(
[01:26] <johnmc> can you boot up a failsafe konsole and reset it
[01:26] <elite101> well if u have anything like this b4? i can go into file/system in Control panel but it wont mount the Master HDD only the "swap" so i cant esit it
[01:26] <elite101> no
[01:26] <elite101> im on the livecd
[01:27] <BigMac> Why can't kubuntu remember my network key?
[01:27] <johnmc> then you'll have to reinstall
[01:27] <johnmc> and give the hard disks different names in fstab somehow
[01:28] <elite101> u see i went into file systems and enabled a partition on the Slave HDD and enabled it to Mount Point "/" and it sayed Warning another HDD is using that mount point so i sayed okay w.e and then now it wont let it bootup again because of the Permission to write to /etc
[01:28] <johnmc> dunno if you'll fix it on the live cd
[01:28] <elite101> maybe?
[01:28] <johnmc> maybe a shortcut
[01:28] <elite101> but in the Livecd it only mounts the Swap partition
[01:29] <elite101> well all i have to do is enabled the other HDD the matser on to the mount point "/" but the partition is not enabled so i have to edit the fstab?
[01:29] <johnmc> it has to mount the hard disk somewhere it may not be written in the cd's fstab but it will be lurking.  I've used fedora since it came out and Ubuntu has a few differences
[01:30] <elite101> no i have to enable the Master HDD to "/" mount point
[01:30] <johnmc> so dont take my word as gospel it may be right for fedora
[01:30] <elite101> but since i mounted the Spare HDD to "/" (desktop) it wont boot up from the Master HDD
[01:30] <elite101> beccause of slave HDD
[01:31] <elite101> i cant even get into recovery mode
[01:31] <elite101> it says permissions denied when loading up the system prosseces
[01:32] <johnmc> well the easiest quick and dirty just to get it running is swap the disk names in your bios ie: hdisk0 becomes hdisk1 or similar
[01:32] <johnmc> you'll be running at least
[01:33] <johnmc> or just swap the wires if its set to cable select
[01:34] <johnmc> it just cant find the right disk
[01:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh happy day :D
[01:37] <johnmc> lots of potential daisuke, the sky is clear
[01:37] <johnmc> still freezing yet
[01:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> screw the weather, i got my lappy :)
[01:38] <johnmc> ohh
[01:38] <voidmage> is there any kind of PAM solution for kwallet?
[01:39] <johnmc> I can see why you're happy then sorry I jump to conclusions
[01:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> so far it's pretty nice.  default ubuntu installation
[01:40] <johnmc> I gave up on kwallet its just more typing far as I'm concerned for the use I put my computer to
[01:40] <runlevelten> I use kwallet because it's less typing :)
[01:40] <johnmc> guess that depends on the pass
[01:40] <johnmc> heh
[01:40] <runlevelten> and because if you remember your passphrase, passwords are recoverable
[01:41] <runlevelten> which is a big plus in a secure password storage utility :)
[01:41] <johnmc> I'd use it if I did banking etc
[01:42] <johnmc> I have 5 puters in the room and take my pick
[01:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> now i need to learn how to set up linux to linux file sharing
[01:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> got samba down to a science
[01:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> (for what i do)
[01:43] <urilock_> why did i learn html when i could just use WYSIWYG html editors...
[01:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> because WSIIAWYG
[01:44] <johnmc> another x next to my nick in the slack column
[01:44] <over30feet> Any one here?
[01:45] <over30feet> I need a little bit of help
[01:45] <johnmc> whats up?
[01:45] <underdog5004> nm
[01:45] <urilock_> ima get Nvu
[01:45] <johnmc> no guarantees
[01:45] <over30feet> I added a repos to my sources.list
[01:45] <over30feet> and it fudged everything up
[01:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> what did you add
[01:45] <over30feet> i deleted it because i didnt feel like editing it
[01:45] <underdog5004> I installed compiz fusion, and it really sucks
[01:46] <over30feet> it was for amarok
[01:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> you deleted your sources.list?
[01:46] <over30feet> ya
[01:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> oops
[01:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> !source-o-matic
[01:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:46] <runlevelten> because she didn't feel like editing it :)
[01:46] <over30feet> k
[01:46] <urilock_> whenever i run amarok it crashes
[01:46] <urilock_> for no aparant reason
[01:46] <over30feet> does this have the restricted ones added?
[01:46] <underdog5004> !vlc | urilock_
[01:46] <ubotu> urilock_: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:46] <johnmc> If you look in the folder I think they do automatic backups
[01:47] <over30feet> i just reinstalled Kubuntu so there wasnt a backup yet
[01:47] <johnmc> be blah~.lst or whatever
[01:47] <underdog5004> bummer
[01:47] <runlevelten> over30feet: when you've deleted your sources.list, your question is not "does it have restricted repos", it's "can I use this to unwreck it"
[01:47] <runlevelten> heh
[01:47] <johnmc> I can send you a standard list if you want
[01:48] <over30feet> sure send it
[01:48] <runlevelten> over30feet: what version are you on first?
[01:48] <over30feet> dapper
[01:48] <runlevelten> Is it 7.04 Feisty?
[01:48] <runlevelten> Right. Then don't use a Feisty sources.list.
[01:49] <over30feet> i know that
[01:49] <runlevelten> Well that's a start.
[01:49] <over30feet> lol
[01:49] <johnmc> this is feisty is it no good to you
[01:50] <over30feet> # Automatically generated sources.list
[01:50] <over30feet> # http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[01:50] <runlevelten> just use the source-o-matic
[01:50] <over30feet> #
[01:50] <over30feet> # If you get GPG errors with this sources.list, locate the GPG key in this file
[01:50] <yukino> ola
[01:50] <over30feet> # and run these commands (where KEY is replaced with that key)
[01:50] <yukino> ayuda en espaol
[01:50] <runlevelten> over30feet: stop.
[01:50] <over30feet> #
[01:50] <runlevelten> !flood
[01:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:50] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:50] <over30feet> # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[01:50] <over30feet> # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[01:50] <over30feet> #
[01:50] <over30feet> # If you don't know what to do with this file, read
[01:50] <over30feet> # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[01:50] <over30feet> # Ubuntu supported packages
[01:51] <over30feet> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[01:51] <over30feet> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[01:51] <over30feet> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[01:51] <jlinares> ununtu.es
[01:51] <jlinares> ??
[01:51] <over30feet> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[01:51] <runlevelten> :|
[01:51] <over30feet> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[01:51] <runlevelten> !es
[01:51] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:51] <over30feet> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[01:51] <jlinares> hola
[01:51] <jlinares> que tal
[01:51] <over30feet> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[01:51] <runlevelten> ;)
[01:51] <over30feet> # Ubuntu community supported packages
[01:51] <urilock_> no se
[01:51] <over30feet> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[01:51] <over30feet> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[01:51] <over30feet> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[01:51] <over30feet> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[01:51] <over30feet> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[01:51] <runlevelten> over30feet: PLEASE DON'T DO THAT AGAIN.
[01:51] <over30feet> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[01:51] <voidmage> !pastebin > over30feet
[01:51] <over30feet> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[01:51] <over30feet> there what i got
[01:52] <over30feet> oh i see
[01:52] <over30feet> sorry about that
[01:52] <over30feet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33633/
[01:52] <over30feet> there
[01:52] <over30feet> ya ya i know you only have to tell me once
[01:53] <urilock_> Nvu 1.0 is available for download for a variety of Linux distributions including Linspire 5.0, SuSE Linux 9.2, Mandrake Linux 10.0, Fedora Core 2 and 3, Debian Linux (sid) and MEPIS Linux
[01:53] <urilock_> would any of those versions work on kubuntu?
[01:53] <urilock_> or should i look elsewhere
[01:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> um
[01:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> just install nvu from the repos
[01:54] <johnmc> later guys
[01:54] <runlevelten> nvu's old and development has stopped, mind you.
[01:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> !rpositories
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rpositories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <ubot3> Factoid rpositories not found
[01:54] <urilock_> ah
[01:54] <urilock_> nevermind
[01:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> !repositories
[01:54] <ubot3> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:54] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> !nvu
[01:54] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[01:54] <ubot3> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8717 kB, installed size 28936 kB
[01:54] <urilock_> i scrolled to the bottom and someone submitted a kubuntu version :D
[01:54] <over30feet> how do i go about saving this file now
[01:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> ouch
[01:54] <over30feet> i copied the repos to the sources.list file which i sudo opened in kate
[01:55] <mario_> hey
[01:55] <mario_> anyone can heklp me plz?
[01:55] <mario_> i have ubuntu 6.06
[01:55] <over30feet> whith what?
[01:55] <mario_> and i dont have sounds
[01:56] <mario_> my sound card is a soudblaster i dont know which lol
[01:56] <mario_> i got a command for a list w8
[01:56] <urilock_> i switched my card recently
[01:56] <mario_> kk
[01:56] <urilock_> i have a dell and i hate it
[01:56] <mario_> sudo asoundconf list
[01:56] <mario_> okk
[01:56] <mario_> w8
[01:56] <over30feet> yay i found a copy of what i wanted
[01:56] <mario_> terminaling consoling lol
[01:57] <mario_> :)
[01:57] <runlevelten> !pastebin
[01:57] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:57] <mario_> yeah
[01:57] <stoned> hey people of kubuntu!
[01:57] <mario_> lol
[01:57] <urilock_> hey
[01:57] <urilock_> yay!
[01:57] <runlevelten> hi stoned. how goes?
[01:57] <urilock_> nvu worked
[01:57] <stoned> hi
[01:57] <mario_> i have kubuntu but i dont know where is it lOl
[01:57] <stoned> it goes.. I try to go with it
[01:58] <stoned> nvu is ok
[01:58] <mario_> sudo asoundconf list shows SI7012, UART and AudioPCI can anyone help me plz?
[01:58] <mario_> my soundcard is a soundblaster
[01:58] <urilock_> i have dreamweaver somewhere on my windows partition
[01:58] <stoned> bluefish is much more better
[01:59] <runlevelten> bluefish and kate are both excellent gui web editors.
[01:59] <Dj-Serpen> can anyone help me for my problem plz?
[01:59] <runlevelten> !ask
[01:59] <ubot3> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:59] <Biovore> hmm is there a reason there to ubots?
[02:00] <Dj-Serpen> !ask sound problem
[02:00] <ubot3> Dj-Serpen: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:00] <urilock_> !wine
[02:00] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:00] <ubot3> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:00] <urilock_> i was testing ok
[02:00] <over30feet> ok i think i got my repos back to normal
[02:00] <Dj-Serpen> !ask problem with soundcard
[02:00] <ubot3> Dj-Serpen: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:00] <Dj-Serpen> .......................
[02:00] <urilock_> nice wine supports dreamweaver 8
[02:00] <hangthedj> !sound
[02:00] <ubot3> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:01] <Dj-Serpen> ohhh
[02:01] <Dj-Serpen> #kubuntu LOL
[02:01] <Dj-Serpen> /join #ubuntu
[02:01] <Dj-Serpen> ?
[02:02] <bubba666> hello
[02:02] <bubba666> how is everyone tonight?
[02:03] <urilock_> major suck: wine doesnt support flash?
[02:03] <urilock_> oh
[02:03] <urilock_> nevermind
[02:04] <urilock_> its named under webdesign
[02:05] <urilock_> !kicker
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <urilock_> im bored D:
[02:08] <jlinares> hello
[02:09] <jlinares> enlace en espaor..
[02:09] <jlinares> espaol
[02:09] <over30feet> lol
[02:09] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:09] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:11] <runlevelten> *stoned also
[02:12] <holycow> *hmmm*
[02:13] <over30feet> i hate konqueror so much
[02:14] <over30feet> its slow and hates links
[02:14] <holycow>  what are you talking about?
[02:14] <wolferine> he is on dialup, he just doesnt understand
[02:14] <over30feet> im on Cable
[02:14] <over30feet> 5mbs
[02:14] <holycow> lol
[02:14] <holycow> riiiiight
[02:15] <over30feet> i just dont like kon it pisses me off
[02:15] <over30feet> its acting like the links isnt there
[02:15] <holycow> is there an equalizer application in kde?  its funny that the only thing in kde/gnome enviornments that i can find with an equalizer is xmms and beep media player
[02:15] <holycow> over30feet: mostly you are just clueless
[02:15] <holycow> wait for dolphin that will be something within the range of your comprehension
[02:15] <holycow> sorry i haveto bug ya :)
[02:16] <over30feet> it thinks this dam link is a picture
[02:16] <holycow> no,  your system thinks its a picture
[02:17] <wolferine> why are you even wasting time to negate his statements?
[02:17] <over30feet> Kon is the only thing that thinks its a picture
[02:17] <holycow> because you don't know how to fix
[02:17] <holycow> i find it amusing
[02:17] <over30feet> i never use kon
[02:17] <wolferine> i see
[02:17] <wolferine> never?
[02:17] <over30feet> not for the web anyways
[02:17] <wolferine> really
[02:17] <over30feet> i use firefox
[02:19] <Karmak> Why is my kubuntu booting in to console (or whatever is it called?) It says "Starting up ... | Loading please wait.... | kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-unit/c(lot's of numbers)) = hda5(3,5) | kinit: trying to resume /dev/disk/by-uuid/c(lot's of numbers) | kinit: No resume, doing normal boot
[02:20] <francesco> !it
[02:20] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:22] <codex> hello, what program is availale to extract ".rar" files ?
[02:23] <holycow> codex: rar and unrar
[02:23] <holycow> just install them from repos and right click on the rar and select extract
[02:24] <codex> ok thanks
[02:24] <over30feet> can some one get me this link for me
[02:24] <wolferine> Karmak, new install?
[02:25] <b0uncyfr0> helooooooooooooooooo
[02:25] <Karmak> wolferine yea
[02:25] <over30feet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33637/
[02:25] <wolferine> Karmak, do you have memory issues?
[02:25] <over30feet> i need some one to get the download link for me
[02:25] <Karmak> No don't think so
[02:25] <wolferine> Karmak, new system?
[02:26] <Karmak> no, old
[02:26] <over30feet> oh wait nvm im gonna boot in windows
[02:26] <wolferine> Karmak, did you edit GRUB during the install?
[02:27] <Karmak> no
[02:27] <urilock_> http://uk.gamespot.com/458417 I want this game :D
[02:27] <zipper> hmm
[02:27] <wolferine> Karmak, wahts your system setup like, dual boot, ext3, etc?
[02:28] <zipper> when trying to enable a samba share, it tells me that SMB and NFS servers are not installed. In add/remove i can find samba (which is installed) but not NFS. What package do i need to get?
[02:29] <barnaby> Anyone got a moment to help a noob?
[02:29] <wolferine> !ask barnaby
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask barnaby - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> thats what we are here fpr
[02:29] <wolferine> !ask | barnaby
[02:30] <ubotu> barnaby: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:30] <hsatera> barnaby: say
[02:30] <Karmak> single boot but I have no idea about ext
[02:30] <zipper> nevermind, i got it
[02:30] <wolferine> Karmak, so you dont know how you setup your partitions during the install?
[02:30] <barnaby> Ok. I am having a problem burning cd's in Ubuntu 7.4
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> barnaby: kubuntu?
[02:30] <barnaby> I installed k3b no prob
[02:30] <barnaby> Ubuntu
[02:30] <barnaby> gnome
[02:30] <wolferine> barnaby, can you ask in one line?
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: whats this I see? Daisuke on a LAPTOP?
[02:32] <barnaby> Sorry, I will try. The cd keeps getting rejected, telling me it is a media error. This is on my laptop. My desktop running the same OS has the same problem, same error message. I reboot into Sabayon, I can burn cds.
[02:33] <barnaby> Serpentine or k3b, same thing.
[02:34] <barnaby> I though I had a bad batch of cd's, but Ubuntu burned an ISO onto a dvd on my laptop, no problem.
[02:34] <Karmak> wolferine, err I'm not sure which was it but I just choose to format whole disk/make one partition out of hd
[02:34] <Karmak> sorry, I'm new =D
[02:35] <southafrikanse> hello. I was using Kubuntu and installed the Gnome packages to get back Ubuntu. How can I remove now the kde packages?
[02:36] <barnaby> I had PCLinuxOS on this same laptop, no problem burning, same with slackware.
[02:37] <steven2342> hey... is it possible to install kubuntu on another laptop from this on? (the other laptop doesn't have a cd-drive)
[02:37] <holycow> barnaby: you haveto uninstall i think one of the main libs that will pull out the rest of kde
[02:37] <holycow> or perhaps aptitude will let you uninstall kubuntu-desktop metapackage and pull out all the apps along with it
[02:38] <urilock_> wolverine
[02:38] <urilock_> i used partitionmagic
[02:38] <holycow> steven2342: yes, you need an image, and you just image the other hd
[02:38] <urilock_> it came with my internet security pack
[02:38] <southafrikanse> hello. I was using Kubuntu and installed the Gnome packages to get back Ubuntu. How can I remove now the kde packages?
 any idea which one?I installed the madlib for mp3s
[02:39] <holycow> if the hard drive sizes are right you might be able to partition the other drive and image your current drives data onto it, including the bootloader
[02:39] <steven2342> holycow: what do you mean? I tried just taking the hdd out of the old one and putting it in this one (to install) but the hard drives have different connections
[02:39] <holycow> barnaby: not off the top of my head, hopefully its enough info to google the answer
[02:40] <holycow> steven2342: well what i mean is, that is the general procedure but the problem is in the details
[02:40] <urilock_> sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <barnaby> ok, Thanks.
[02:40] <holycow> different hd's, different connections, boot sector plus setting up partitions
[02:40] <holycow> i don't have an easy answer for you, i just answered if it was possible and gave you a rough idea of how
[02:40] <holycow> i hope thats marginally helpfull
[02:40] <urilock_> southafrikanse - sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <steven2342> holycow: is there any way I could connect via ethernet and mount the other hard drive?
[02:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> that will only work if he used aptitude to install kubuntu-desktop
[02:41] <urilock_> i did that and it worked
[02:41] <urilock_> hm
[02:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> which is the standard recommended procedure, so there's a good chance it will work
[02:41] <urilock_> udo apt-get remove adept adept-batch adept-common adept-installer adept-manager adept-notifier adept-updater akregator amarok amarok-xine apport-qt ark arts bogofilter bogofilter-bdb bogofilter-common debtags digikam enscript fftw3 gtk-qt-engine gwenview hwdb-client-kde k3b kaddressbook kaffeine kaffeine-xine kamera karm katapult kate kbstate kcontrol kcron kde-guidance kde-guidance-powermanager kde-icons-mono
[02:41] <stoned> what
[02:41] <urilock_> oshi-
[02:41] <urilock_> woah
[02:41] <urilock_> what the
[02:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> so far so good using NFS to connect to my happy little music collection
[02:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> will be more awesome once i'm using network-attached storage
[02:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> next comes the part i'm NOT looking forward to
[02:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> installing XP in vmware :(
[02:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> but i have a week before i have to have that done
[02:44] <urilock_> is KDE bigger than kubuntu-desktop?
[02:45] <mitxel> hi
[02:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> kubuntu-desktop encompasses KDE as well as some satellite apps, so KDE itself is actually smaller
[02:45] <urilock_> # kubuntu-desktop - This is Kubuntu's default set of applications and services.
[02:45] <urilock_> # kde - Everything but the kitchen sink... actually, this may have the kitchen sink, too! This metapackage points to all the KDE-related packages available.
[02:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> next huge test is finding out if i can use an external display :D
[02:45] <mitxel> how compile and install tcpdump , pleas ??
[02:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, the KDE package
[02:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's a little different
[02:46] <over30feet> dam i couldnt get it to work
[02:46] <over30feet> !pastebin
[02:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:47] <urilock_> thnkas
[02:47] <over30feet> any one willing to download a file for me and paste the contents
[02:48] <over30feet> any one?
[02:48] <steven2342> is it possible to mount a hard drive over ethernet?
[02:48] <collitis> hello
[02:48] <hangthedj> over30feet: why don't you just view the source and search for the direct link and copy and paste it in a window?
[02:49] <over30feet> i got a direct link but when i try to open it all that happens is it takes me back to the same page
[02:49] <over30feet> http://superb-east.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/pykeylogger/ubuntuzilla_4.1.1.py
[02:49] <over30feet> watch
[02:49] <over30feet> it goes right back to the download page
[02:50] <over30feet> it seems my comp doesnt know its a link
[02:50] <redshadowhero> If I gave someone a computer name, could they tell me if the computer's hardware was supported by kubuntu?
[02:51] <over30feet> it kubuntu should work on most comps
[02:51] <over30feet> aslong as theres 2gb of space and 256ram
[02:51] <urilock_> i downloaded RAR from add and remove programs and it doesnt seem to work...
[02:52] <hangthedj> over30feet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33639/
[02:52] <over30feet> thanks
[02:52] <collitis> Problem: The keyboard occasionally stops working on my Dell Laptop. I can still restart the computer with my touchpad. Any ideas?
[02:52] <over30feet> many many thanks
[02:52] <urilock_> i have a dell
[02:52] <urilock_> my keyboard sometimes does that
[02:52] <urilock_> i can only fix it in wondoze though
[02:53] <collitis> Urilock: What is Wondoze?
[02:53] <urilock_> windows
[02:53] <over30feet> my comp was doing the kinda same thing but with my mouse a while back
[02:53] <over30feet> no one was able to help
[02:53] <urilock_> in windows you go into device manager and delete it and it works
[02:54] <urilock_> thats if you have windows
[02:54] <collitis> In Windows I never had this problem
[02:54] <urilock_> oh
[02:54] <urilock_> that may be differant
[02:54] <urilock_> im new to this OS so i have no clue
[02:54] <collitis> I'm not going back to Windows because of this. I'm sure it's fixable
[02:54] <urilock_> theres probably a way
[02:55] <Biovore> collitis: ps2 keyboard?
[02:55] <collitis> biovore: built in laptop keyboard
[02:55] <Biovore> oh.. a laptop.. weird..
[02:56] <collitis> If it was USB i might try unplugging and replugging it in
[02:56] <Biovore> never seen that problem on a laptop
[02:56] <urilock_> oh
[02:56] <Biovore> I have 2 dell laptops both work fine..
[02:56] <urilock_> is there a device manager in kubuntu?
[02:56] <collitis> Good question Urilock
[02:56] <urilock_>  i think i encountered one a while ago..
[02:56] <over30feet> dam it its not working
[02:56] <over30feet> brb
[02:57] <urilock_> ah
[02:57] <urilock_> try going
[02:57] <urilock_> settings>hardware information
[02:58] <urilock_> i dont know if that can help though...
[02:58] <collitis> uri: i'm using KDE and can't find what you're talking about
[02:58] <urilock_> hm
[02:59] <urilock_> im using KDE with ubuntu and xubuntu applications and everything
[02:59] <urilock_> because i use al l3
[02:59] <urilock_> maybe its a little differant
[02:59] <schiste> Good evening guys, I've got a question about Ktorrent. On the very same connection when I'm connected with the wire I have really low download rates and when I'm connected with the wifi I've got "normal" ones. Do you have any clue why is that ?
[03:00] <collitis> uri: give me a sec to hunt this down
[03:00] <schiste> could it because of my laptop plug ?
[03:00] <urilock_> im using Utorrent
[03:00] <Biovore> ktorrent works fine here..
[03:00] <schiste> hmmm in facts I don't think it's because of Ktorrent, but more of OS/hardware
[03:00] <schiste> is there any command to check if my plug is working fine
[03:01] <urilock_> collitis:  run command: Hardware Information?
[03:01] <Biovore> lshw
[03:01] <Biovore> lspci
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> hey everybody
[03:02] <Biovore> hi dr nick
[03:03] <rpedro> hey
[03:03] <adenicio> quoi neuf les gas ya des nouvo super truc qui es sorti?
[03:03] <rpedro> http://beryl-themes.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=63725&file1=63725-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Human+Orange+%28bottom+round+corners%29
[03:03] <rpedro> amarok with gnome 'human' theme? how?
[03:03] <adenicio> qui voudrai me vendre une cart ati ou nvidea?g pa
[03:03] <rpedro> !fr
[03:03] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:06] <adenicio> rpedro: lol sorry i wa typing withought knowin i was in the french chat a while ago so when i log on i was riten fr too :-P
[03:06] <kjp> is there a way to force a higher resolution when kubuntu only wants to do 1024x768
[03:07] <Biovore> kjp: yes.. edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:07] <adenicio> KIP WHY U WANT HYGER?
[03:07] <rpedro> adenicio: np :P
[03:07] <kjp> biovore, is it self evident what to edit ?
[03:08] <Biovore> yes.. there is a line that says mode  "1024x768"
[03:08] <rpedro> !fixres
[03:08] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:08] <rpedro> kjp: check that link
[03:09] <barnaby> I'm going to throw my sad tale of woe out there again, I was probably a little scattered the first time. I have burned many cds with this laptop, using different distros; PCLinuxOS, slackware and Sabayon. I can still burn ISOs on this machine, but both Serpentine and K3B reject the cds I am using (run of the mill Sony cd-rs) I was sure I had a bad bunch of cds, since my laptop and desktop were giving me the same error. I booted my
[03:09] <barnaby> desktop into sabayon with a live cd and burned a cd with k3b with no problem (2 dvd-roms in the machine). I go back into Ubuntu, same error message. K3b's error message says it's probably the medium. I did try googling for someone with similar problems, nothing yet. Anyone have an idea or three?
[03:10] <urilock_> woah
[03:10] <urilock_> wine supports halo 2
[03:10] <urilock_> im so buying that
[03:13] <level1> hi, I have a program that I'm trying to install with wine.  The thing is, that it created a window that I need to access, but the window got created behind another window and both windows are unresponsive.  Is there a way to force an X window to move against its will?
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> level1: you can kill the front window by pressin "ctrl+alt+esc" and then clicking on the windows...
[03:15] <level1> nosrednaekim: I think that will kill the whole process, and I need the processing running so I can complete the install
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> oh...hmmm I don't think so.
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> I don't know what you could do.
[03:16] <level1> now it seems to be doing nothing
[03:16] <zblach__> hey all. quick question. is there a flag for ls that shows the full path for all files?
[03:16] <barnaby> ls -la
[03:16] <zblach__> that's not what I mean
[03:16] <zblach__> that's not full path
[03:16] <zblach__> ls -Ra
[03:16] <level1> the window disappeared, I tried to re run it but it said it was already running
[03:17] <level1> whats the method for ps that shows all processes, not just processes in the current tty?
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> ps -a
[03:18] <barnaby> ps -ef
[03:18] <level1> nosrednaekim: unless I'm running a linux system with 4 copys of bash and vmware, thats not it
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> whoops... ps -ax
[03:18] <zblach__> sudo ps -a
[03:18] <zblach__> x
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> level1: well, aren't you ;)
[03:19] <level1> nosrednaekim: I mean only thoes programs
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> I know :P
[03:19] <level1> nosrednaekim: doesn't linux have to have a few kernel drivers or something to run?  At least X and kde
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> level1: yeah......
[03:21] <zblach__> i guess what i'm trying to do is find all .txt files nested in any number of folders
[03:21] <zblach__> ls -R | grep .txt, but that will only return the names, not the directories they're in
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> Could try find
[03:22] <crispies> do i need to install direct x in wine to play games?
[03:22] <darkstar61> locate *.txt > text_files
[03:23] <zblach__> locate isn't directory dependent
[03:23] <zblach__> Dragnslcr: perfect. thanks
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> find /directory-to-be-searched -name *.txt -print
[03:25] <zblach__> well, i was thinking `find | grep .txt`
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> I think mine would be faster...
[03:27] <zblach__> not recursive
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> its not? oh...*hides in shame*
[03:28] <zblach__> which is weird. 'find' with no parameters is recursive
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> yeah....
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> no, the man page says that mine is recursive...
[03:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: in answer to your earlier question: oh yeah.
[03:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> and it's quite nice
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: is it nice having another personality Daisuke-Ido
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> ?
[03:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're obsolete!
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> was the resolution right on boot?
[03:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes it was
[03:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> 1440x900
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> i;ve heard that that used to be a problem.
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> wanna read some crap? http://www.devside.net/blog/ubuntu-kills-linux-dell
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: I bet the first command you ran was "sudo apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:33] <zblach__> you'd need two sudos
[03:33] <saki_knin> does anyone know anyithing about makefile
[03:33] <saki_knin> oliz
[03:34] <saki_knin> pliz
[03:34] <zblach__> what do you want to know?
[03:34] <saki_knin> can anyone tell me how to join two programs in makefile
[03:34] <Daisuke-Laptop> well then.
[03:34] <zblach__> 'join two programs in a makefile'?
[03:34] <Daisuke-Laptop> i can see it didn't like that very much.
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> I notice a name change here...
[03:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah
[03:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> there was a teensy problem
[03:35] <saki_knin> yea, to compale two c++ program using makefile
[03:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> desktop effects doesn't play nice with a default install
[03:36] <urilock_> im gonna go to bed now
[03:36] <urilock_> bye everyone
[03:36] <zblach__> compale: compile or compare?
[03:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> wonder if it's using the accelerated driver
[03:36] <saki_knin> good night
[03:36] <urilock_> zzz
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> nothing the superior Daisuke_Laptop couldn't fix... i'll bet
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: if you are getting that res.. then yes.but maybe the xorg doesn't have the right options.
[03:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> glxgears is running fine, so i know i have acceleration
[03:36] <saki_knin> i need some page were is makefile good explined
[03:37] <saki_knin> i find old makefiles pages on net
[03:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> makefiles haven't changed much in a while.
[03:38] <flake> why not use rpm
[03:38] <Biovore> why use rpm
[03:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> because rpm breaks things in ubuntu, that's why
[03:38] <saki_knin> i dont know
[03:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> that R in RPM?  that stands for Redhat
[03:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> :)
[03:38] <flake> better to use rpm in redhat?
[03:39] <flake> ah m'kay
[03:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes
[03:39] <zblach__> Redhat Package Manager
[03:39] <Biovore> yes..  we use deb packages..  from debian
[03:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> ubuntu uses deb by default
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: did compiz give you any errors?
[03:39] <zblach__> !seen apetrescu
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen apetrescu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> i dunno yet, i just went to turn on desktop effects :)
[03:39] <flake> thanks
[03:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> going to try it from a terminal, see what i get
[03:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> dri and glx are both enabled in xorg.conf
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> what about AIGLX?
[03:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> hmm, where would that be...
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: I don't know... it actually might be enabled by default, and switched off.
[03:40] <francesco> !it
[03:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> like the composite extension
[03:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> bitmap, ddc, dri, extmod, freetype, glx, int10, vbe...
[03:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> driver i810...
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> all good.
[03:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> which i think is the intel standard
[03:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> it should be renamed, though
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> indeed.
[03:42] <zblach__> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[03:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> maybe a dpkg-reconfigure?
[03:42] <zblach__> this should take care of that automatically
[03:43] <zblach__> and you won't need 915resolution anymore
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> zblach__: oh, there is a new driver?
[03:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh
[03:43] <zblach__> i'm not sure how new it is, but i did the same thing this morning
[03:44] <zblach__> everything is crisp, clean, and 3daccelerated
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=513775
[03:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> if everything goes all wahoonie-shaped, i can always fix it, or at worst, reinstall from the nice shrink-wrapped ubuntu cd they so thoughtfully provided
[03:47] <zblach__> shrink-wrapped ubuntu cd?
[03:47] <zblach__> dell lappy?
[03:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> yep
[03:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> the 1420N, in fact :D
[03:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> that thread is great
[03:50] <D1sturbed> Im getting ready to install kubuntu on my laptop with an intel pro wireless card is ndiswrapper or any other drivers on the default installation of kubuntu?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> intel wireless should work just fine without ndiswrapper
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> D1sturbed: you can test from the liveCD
[03:51] <D1sturbed> nosrednaekim does the live cd include everything the instalation does?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[03:51] <zblach__> D1sturbed: why do you need ndiswrapper? it's horribly unstable
[03:52] <zblach__> when i had it installed on my desktop, it'd kernel panic every 8 hours or so
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> zblach__: he was just asking if he did
[03:52] <D1sturbed> zblach__ because it works lol and i dont have the time and patience for anything else
[03:52] <D1sturbed> ever not ever had any problems out of it
[03:52] <zblach__> i probably had crappy drivers
[03:52] <zblach__> is it a laptop you're isntalling to?
[03:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> D1sturbed: what's the intel chipset?
[03:53] <D1sturbed> yes sir
[03:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> 3945?
[03:53] <D1sturbed> i beleive so
[03:53] <D1sturbed> yes
[03:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> no need for ndiswrapper
[03:53] <voidmage> anybody know how to get synergy to work in kvm?
[03:53] <zblach__> supported out the box w/o ndiswrapper
[03:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's got native drivers that rock
[03:53] <voidmage> like i have synergy server on my desktop, client on my laptop, laptop's running kvm
[03:53] <zblach__> me too
[03:53] <voidmage> so synergy will work inside the vm?
[03:54] <D1sturbed> alright well hopefully it goes better then this crappy version of mandriva im using
[03:54] <D1sturbed> we shall find out
[03:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> anything's better than mandriva
[03:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> (was that out loud?)
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: heh :) Gutsy fixed my atheros so i'm happy
[03:54] <D1sturbed> loool
[03:54] <D1sturbed> i agree with you...my friend just gave me this laptop and it has mandriva 07 free on it
[03:54] <D1sturbed> and its horrible
[03:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> i never had any issues with the atheros in jen's laptop
[03:54] <BluesKaj> mandriva was the next best thing 2 yrs ago...next best to what eluded me :)
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> mandriva is a stinking commercialized distro. no atheros drivers without a subscription!!!!
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: its highly dependant on HAL
[03:55] <zblach__> really? ubuntu's been around 2 years
[03:55] <D1sturbed> ok im off to do the install
[03:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> could even connect to the stinking WPA network at school...
[03:55] <D1sturbed> wish me luck
[03:55] <zblach__> last time i checked, wpa's been a little flakey
[03:55] <BluesKaj> before that too zblach__
[03:55] <zblach__> at least 2 years
[03:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> D1sturbed: feel free to come back here and talk during the install if you're using the livecd
[03:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> or...now
[03:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> not*
[03:56] <zblach__> (he can't hear you)
[03:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> zblach__: was working great last semester
[03:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, i noticed
[03:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> didn't get that in in time
[03:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> and i love the keyboard on this laptop.
[03:56] <elite101> lol what kind of laptop?
[03:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> dell 1420N
[03:56] <elite101> lol atleast its not a accer
[03:56] <zblach__> acer that bad?
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> I love laptop keyboards
[03:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> i don't like my gf's toshiba keyboard
[03:57] <netdaemon> my desktop keyboard is like a laptop keyboard
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> acer? I LOVE MY ACER!
[03:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> doesn't feel as crisp
[03:57] <netdaemon> haha
[03:57] <BluesKaj> ubuntu lappy Daisuke?
[03:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> BluesKaj: you betcha
[03:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> had to support the cause
[03:57] <netdaemon> people that own acers tend to like them
[03:57] <BluesKaj> right on :)
[03:57] <netdaemon> i never had a problem with the monitor i'v had from acer
[03:57] <netdaemon> i may get a laptop :P
[03:57] <Dragnslcr> How much did it run ya, Daisuke_Laptop ?
[03:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> my desktop keyboard is a saitek eclipse led keyboard
[03:58] <netdaemon> they support linux pretty well i hear
[03:58] <zblach__> one thing with the laptops w/ intel chipsets. i810 switch doesn't work an anything new
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> netdaemon: mine is so-so..
[03:58] <zblach__> new being <1.5 years
[03:58] <Dragnslcr> My girlfriend needs a new laptop, I want to try to convince her to use Ubuntu
[03:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> Dragnslcr: with a t7300, 2gb ram, 160gb hdd, bluetooth, i3945 wireless, and 1440x900 screen, $1280 after tax.
[03:58] <netdaemon> nosrednaekim: probably had better luck with it than i'v had with this HP
[03:58] <netdaemon> took me months to get anything to run on it properly
[03:59] <zblach__> i'm using an HP; no complaints, but it isn't perfect
[03:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> this thing is officially faster than my desktop machine
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> netdaemon: yeah, with gutsy everything is finally working right out of the box :) but fiesty and edgy were an ordeal
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> Not too bad. I wouldn't need that much memory or hard disk space anyway
[03:59] <zblach__> nosrednaekim: you shoulda tried warty
[03:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> Dragnslcr: those were free upgrades
[03:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> they had a special going
[03:59] <netdaemon> is gutsy running ok? i was thinking of dist upgrading to it
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> I just ordered a 250 GB USB hard drive to get stuff off her current laptop anyway
[03:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> better than the $150 it would have cost to go to 2gb
[03:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> and to be honest, i would have been perfectly happy with 1gb
[03:59] <netdaemon> i ran feisty beta for a bit
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> netdaemon: i'm happy :) but it fixed my sound and wireless
[04:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's all that's in my desktop and it runs smooth
[04:00] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I'd love to know exactly when their specials will be. It's kinda annoying to check the prices every day
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: I thought they had a free upgrade to 2GB?
[04:00] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, is your GF a geekette , if not she may wanna stick with mac or windoze :)
[04:00] <zblach__> pref. mac
[04:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: read that again :P
[04:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> *what it would have cost*
[04:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> i saved $150
[04:00] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- not a computer geek, but somewhat of a general geek
[04:00] <stoned> hello there
[04:00] <stoned> good job
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> AH... sorry... things are flying!
[04:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> no worries :)
[04:00] <netdaemon> nosrednaekim: everything works on here now, i just had a hell of a time finding kernel parameters that would work
[04:00] <stoned> hey I now forgot what I was going to ask
[04:01] <netdaemon> works perfect with noapic noirqdebug, everything =)
[04:01] <stoned> hmm
[04:01] <mneptok> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.koffice.org
[04:01] <mneptok> That's Bad (tm)
[04:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> no wonder :D
[04:01] <Dragnslcr> She'd have me to help her, anyway. The main reason I'd want a Dell for her is so I don't have to worry about the hardware
[04:01] <BluesKaj> well then, i guess she qualifies and would prolly like Linux , Dragnslcr :)
[04:01] <stoned> no man I saw something about 150$ and i totally forgot what i was thinking
[04:01] <elite101> lol
[04:01] <elite101> gofig.
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> haha
[04:01] <stoned> it had something to do with kde i think
[04:01] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I don't think she uses any software that's Windows-specific
[04:01] <netdaemon> why does kubuntu not ship with koffice, rather than open office?
[04:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> Dragnslcr: granted, i've only had it running for a few hours now, but i wouldn't hesitate to recommend it
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> stoned: need more happy medecine?
[04:02] <Dragnslcr> My parents were worse, since they have a stupid greeting card program and stuff like that
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> netdaemon: because koffice can't do docs very well
[04:02] <netdaemon> hrm
[04:02] <BluesKaj> anyone know of issues gparted live cd has with intel graphics cards ?
[04:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> beautiful thing about this is that i can wipe it and install windows if i so chose, but i know that if i want to go to linux again, everything is supported right out of the box
[04:02] <netdaemon> it imports them, but dosn't export them
[04:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> not that i would ever do that.
[04:02] <netdaemon> i was reading on that last night
[04:02] <zblach__> be wary of parted
[04:02] <netdaemon> i was just wondering if it was some other reason
[04:02] <zblach__> i've fscked up a few computers with it
[04:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> in fact, i need to install vmware server and winxp for school...
[04:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> i just wish vmware's site wasn't running so slow :\
[04:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> i can actually type full speed on this keyboard too.  pretty nice feel to it.
[04:03] <barnaby> blueskaj: I have an Intel card and gaprted works fine here
[04:03] <Dragnslcr> I've been trying to get kvm running on my desktop. Got a VM up, but I can't the networking right
[04:03] <barnaby> gparted*
[04:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> tell ya what, i'm going to go ahead and restart x, i'll see you in a minute
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke-Ido: KVM!
[04:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> wow, that just made everything unbearably blurry :\
[04:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> this may not be such a hot idea :(
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> the new driver?
[04:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah :\
[04:06] <zblach__> which one?
[04:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> xserver-xorg-video-intel
[04:06] <zblach__> weird
[04:06] <zblach__> apologies
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: can you downgrade?
[04:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> should i uninstall 915resolution?
[04:07] <zblach__> it's a widescreen patch
[04:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh yeah, i can downgrade
[04:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's not a big deal
[04:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> if i had to i could reset to factory default
[04:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> no compiz for now, bummer
[04:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> but what the heck, it's more for work than play, that's what my desktop's for :D
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> not quite yet
[04:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> once it his beta, i'm all over it
[04:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> but i'm not willing to do alpha :S
[04:09] <Dragnslcr> I'll probably just wait for the release
[04:09] <zblach__> good bet
[04:09] <Dragnslcr> Feisty works quite well for me
[04:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> time to re-restart x
[04:09] <elite101> cod3X
[04:10] <elite101> lol that should be my name
[04:10] <ubuntu> asdf
[04:10] <elite101> qwerty?
[04:10] <zblach__> dvorak
[04:10] <elite101> !offtopic
[04:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:10] <yuiop> sorry
[04:10] <elite101> :P
[04:11] <yuiop> having fun times with konversation never even touched this before
[04:11] <yuiop> its nice but its not bitchx
[04:11] <yuiop> :(
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> Thankfully
[04:11] <elite101> ChatX sucks
[04:11] <elite101> or Xchat
[04:11] <elite101> w/e
[04:11] <yuiop> xchat is horrible
[04:11] <yuiop> and dont you have to pay for it now or something?
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> It works well for me
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> I didn't
[04:11] <elite101> yeah it looks so bad compared to Konversation it looks cleaner
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> It's in Ubuntu's repository
[04:12] <elite101> anyone play guitar??!?
[04:12] <elite101> just a simple yes/no
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> Yes, plenty of people play guitar
[04:12] <elite101> yeah sure they can play
[04:12] <elite101> but are they good ;)
[04:12] <zblach__> i started a few weeks back
[04:13] <elite101> i hate strats*
[04:13] <elite101> lol
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke is taking a little while to restart X...
[04:13] <zblach__> he is...
[04:13] <yuiop> im install kubuntu as we speak ...on my laptop first time i ever have touched it
[04:14] <yuiop> anything i need to know or any warnings?
[04:14] <yuiop> i have ever*
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> yuiop: is wireless working?
[04:14] <zblach__> your windows programs won't work
[04:14] <yuiop> yes
[04:14] <yuiop> it is :)
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> yuiop: lucky you... :P
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> yuiop: you are going to have too much fun :)
[04:14] <yuiop> nosrednaekim: i think i was just asking you some questions just a few mins ago about the wireless
[04:15] <yuiop> i was d1sturbed
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> yuiop: AH... lol
[04:15] <yuiop> yeah im on the laptop right now
[04:15] <yuiop> this is so weird i have never installed an os whilst i was using it
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> yuiop: what do you have on there now?XP?
[04:16] <yuiop> no mandriva free
[04:16] <Daisuke-Ido> it, um, didn't like that.
[04:16] <yuiop> well i have xp on it dont use it only at school
[04:16] <Daisuke-Ido> AT ALL
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke-Ido: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506744
[04:16] <Daisuke-Ido> so downgrading?  not an option
[04:16] <Daisuke-Ido> redoing factory defaults now
[04:16] <Daisuke-Ido> which isn't a huge deal, i hadn't installed hardly anything
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke-Ido: read that link before you try it again...
[04:17] <Daisuke-Ido> triple buffering and such
[04:17] <saki_knin> can anyone help me whit this makefile
[04:17] <yuiop> saki_knin: maybe
[04:17] <saki_knin> do i know
[04:18] <saki_knin> do you know
[04:18] <yuiop> what?
[04:18] <yuiop> what make file is it
[04:18] <yuiop> ?
[04:18] <saki_knin> how to join two c++ program with makefile to compale
[04:19] <saki_knin> it i izzy, but i do not know
[04:19] <saki_knin> i can not find it on the internet
[04:20] <yuiop> you want 1 make file to compile both?
[04:20] <saki_knin> and i will shot my self
[04:20] <saki_knin> yea
[04:20] <zendo> Hi, when I try to compile some GUI program  I get error message that X11 libraries are missing. Can someone pleaste tell me what should I install?
[04:20] <yuiop> just use the first make file to execute a second make file
[04:20] <yuiop> i dunno
[04:21] <zblach__> libx11-dev
[04:21] <saki_knin> thet is good
[04:21] <zblach__> zendo: sudo apt-get install build-essentials libx11-dev libqt-dev
[04:21] <saki_knin> you did not understand me
[04:21] <yuiop> nosrednaekim: kubuntu is beautiful out of the box
[04:22] <zendo> zblach__: thanks, I'll try that
[04:22] <yuiop> and install is complete ill brb need to restart..
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> yuiop: you think so? I think it looks "under its potential"
[04:22] <yuiop> its very clean and simple thats why its so nice looking
[04:22] <yuiop> alot of other distros are very sloppy
[04:22] <saki_knin> how do i join them
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> yuiop: oh.
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> yuiop: finished installing?
[04:23] <zblach__> saki_knin: what are you trying to accomplish?
[04:23] <yuiop> nosrednaekim: yes and ill brb need to restart
[04:23] <saki_knin> well, i need do compale two c++ programs
[04:24] <zblach__> compale?
[04:24] <zendo> zblach__: "Package libqt-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package." Do I have to install "libqt3-mt-dev" ?
[04:24] <zendo> zblach__: instead
[04:24] <zblach__> try it
[04:24] <saki_knin> i have the sitax of makefile for one c++ compiling
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> yuriy: k
[04:25] <saki_knin> and i need to compile other one in the same directory
[04:26] <zblach__> hey Daisuke_Laptop. everything go well?
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> well, i didn't have to do that whole system restoration thing
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> just got X back
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> going to try the recommended additions to xorg.conf
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> nosrednaekim: got that link handy?
[04:27] <zblach__> back xorg.conf up first
[04:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> zblach__: way ahead of you
[04:27] <zblach__> back it up again for good measure
[04:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's how i got back here :D
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: yeah just a sec.... read the whole thing first... some people were reporting problems
[04:27] <zblach__> and if it ever messes up again, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> it messed up when i went back to the i810 driver for some weird reason
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506744
[04:28] <saki_knin> can anyone help me
[04:28] <elite101> !help
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[04:28] <elite101> opps
[04:28] <elite101> i dont know that one*
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: looks like he is getting gutsy packages
[04:31] <Yuiop_Laptop> Im back :) and its working just wonderfully
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> Yuiop_Laptop: congrats!
[04:32] <marcelol> has anyone got updated sources.list from the ones normally in adept ?
[04:32] <netdaemon> ?
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> Yuiop_Laptop: whats the laptop model BTW? so I can keep it in my file of perfectly working laptops...
[04:32] <marcelol> I want to install eclipse, but adept only lists 3.2.2 not 3.3
[04:33] <Dragnslcr> marcelol- you can try enabled the Unsupported Updates repository (a.k.a. backports), it might be in there
[04:33] <Yuiop_Laptop> nosrednaekim: its a toshiba let me look at the model hold on
[04:33] <marcelol> Hmmm....
[04:33] <wightstraker> How can I network Kubuntu with my mac? I've never used windows so I don't understand Samba
[04:34] <marcelol> even though 3.3 is newer than 3.2.2 ?
[04:34] <Dragnslcr> New versions don't usually get put in the normal repositories until they've been tested for a while
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> wightstraker: NFS shoul work
[04:34] <Yuiop_Laptop> nosrednaekim: satelite a135-s4467
[04:34] <wightstraker> NFS?
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> ok,thanks..
[04:34] <wightstraker> File sharing?
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> wightstraker: yeah.
[04:34] <marcelol> Dragnslcr:  well 3.3 has been out for a couple of months now
[04:34] <wightstraker> Thanks
[04:34] <Dragnslcr> marcelol- it'll probably be standard in 7.10 then
[04:35] <Yuiop_Laptop> nosrednaekim: ok since it all works and i dont have to dick with it all night whats next to do?
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> Yuiop_Laptop: compiz--beryl :)
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> And I have to go all! have fun Daisuke_Laptop!
[04:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> wish me luck!
[04:35] <zblach__> good luck
[04:35] <Yuiop_Laptop> nosrednaekim: see ya
[04:36] <marcelol> and another thing...when you pick eclipse it installs gij by default....which sucketh greatly if you've already got the SUN Jvm installed because you have to goto update-alternatives to set it back
[04:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> still a bit blurry :\
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: have fun with it! I have to go.. its getting late..
[04:37] <Yuiop_Laptop> whats the best way to get beryl?
[04:37] <Cannoli> hey all
[04:39] <Killdeer> Yuiop :  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28ATI.2
[04:39] <Killdeer> Yuiop :  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28ATI.29
[04:39] <Yuiop_Laptop> thanks i just used apt-get seems to be going ok
[04:40] <shiv_j> how do I get a text mode in boot? Which button to press
[04:41] <Cannoli> i want to partition my 250 gb drive
[04:42] <Cannoli> and someone suggested 3 differnt partitions
[04:42] <Cannoli> swap, home and root
[04:42] <Cannoli> wht formats do those have tbe in?
[04:42] <Cannoli> to be*
[04:45] <Cannoli> anyone?  :S
[04:46] <AloBlumenau> is there a bug in kubuntu and samba?
[04:46] <AloBlumenau> 7.0.4
[04:46] <murchadh> Cannoli: /home and /(root) should be ext3 and the swap should be swap.
[04:46] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: Yep.
[04:46] <Killdeer> Cannoli, swap = swap , home and root should be ext3
[04:47] <Cannoli> ok
[04:47] <Cannoli> and how big should i make home and root?
[04:47] <Cannoli> cause i have 250 gb in total
[04:47] <Cannoli> 150 for windows
[04:47] <Cannoli> 2 gb for swap
[04:47] <Cannoli> its actually 233 gb in total
[04:47] <AloBlumenau> murchadh: how to solve?
[04:48] <Killdeer> I have a 32G root, which I'll never come close to filling and a 100 GB /home
[04:48] <AloBlumenau> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/95460
[04:48] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf and remove any instance of ms dns if I remember off hand.
[04:48] <AloBlumenau> ok
[04:49] <AloBlumenau> dns proxy you mean?
[04:49] <Cannoli> kk
[04:49] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: That sounds right. Also setting the shares through Konqueror puts that back in again.
[04:49] <AloBlumenau> I did
[04:49] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: Give me a minute.
[04:49] <AloBlumenau> but not working
[04:50] <AloBlumenau> msdfs proxy commented
[04:50] <AloBlumenau> samba restarted one million times
[04:52] <Cannoli> damn
[04:52] <Cannoli> ok
[04:52] <Cannoli> i was committing a format
[04:52] <Cannoli> with qtparted
[04:52] <Cannoli> and it said an error occurd
[04:52] <Cannoli> :(
[04:53] <Cannoli> !partition
[04:53] <boris_> anyone knows makefile
[04:53] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:53] <Cannoli> !gparted
[04:53] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:53] <AloBlumenau> !samba
[04:53] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:53] <shiv_j> how do I get a text mode in boot? Which button to press
[04:54] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: Did you remove all instances of msdns proxy from smb.conf? I'm just looking for a link?
[04:54] <Cannoli> guys the "udo apt-get install gparted" thing didnt work
[04:54] <AloBlumenau> murchadh: I did
[04:54] <Cannoli> or it did work and i dont know wht to do next
[04:55] <Cannoli> :(
[04:55] <inMENso> someone speak spanish?
[04:55] <inMENso> :S
[04:55] <AloBlumenau> I think the proble is with tbsam
[04:55] <AloBlumenau> I hate it
[04:55] <Dragnslcr> !es
[04:55] <Killdeer> Cannoli, you meant "sudo" not udo right?
[04:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:55] <over30feet> !pastebin
[04:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:55] <adenicio>  tbsam????
[04:55] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/95460 was what sorted the problem for me but you may have deeper issues.
[04:55] <Cannoli> uh oh
[04:55] <Cannoli> XD
[04:56] <adenicio> AloBlumenau: hate wat?
[04:56] <Cannoli> yea i tried tht too
[04:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh well
[04:56] <Cannoli> nothing
[04:56] <Cannoli> :(
[04:56] <Cannoli> well something happens but i dont know wht
[04:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> for some reason, it's still a tad blurry and my whites aren't super white, but it works
[04:57] <AloBlumenau> yes
[04:57] <AloBlumenau> is the new way samba storeage password
[04:58] <AloBlumenau> I dont know what to do anymore
[04:58] <AloBlumenau> It was 8 hours I'm on it
[04:59] <AloBlumenau> murchadh: I'm using samba 3.0.24
[04:59] <AloBlumenau> it's unbelivable ubuntu released this distro with this issue
[04:59] <Biovore> oO
[04:59] <Biovore> what about sambe?
[05:00] <Biovore> samba
[05:00] <inMENso> excuse me, i speak few english...
[05:00] <inMENso> Where i can activate autocomplete in kdevelop?
[05:01] <Biovore> I don't think there is an autocomplete for kdevelop
[05:01] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: Leave the dns proxy = line however it was. Are you using user level shares? Maybe start with share level security instead of user level. Was it working previously?
[05:01] <Cannoli> sudo apt-get install gparted << does not work
[05:01] <Cannoli> :(
[05:02] <Cannoli> maybe its cause im on a live cd?
[05:02] <arnoldo> is the nvidia 8300 GS supported yet?
[05:02] <arnoldo> i installed feisty and i don't think i'm getting hardware rendering support
[05:02] <Biovore> not with the graphical installer
[05:02] <arnoldo> i followed the binary driver howto for nvidia, but i don't see the 8300 GS getting detected
[05:02] <Biovore> have to install with text installer then setup nvidia binary driver..
[05:03] <arnoldo> Biovore: what causes the difference?
[05:03] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: Do you have more than 1 network card?
[05:03] <AloBlumenau> it was working bad
[05:03] <AloBlumenau> yes
[05:03] <AloBlumenau>  I have
[05:03] <AloBlumenau> I do
[05:03] <Biovore> arnoldo: The graphical installer work there?
[05:04] <AloBlumenau> for example, I shared two users accounts (workspace, monaco)
[05:04] <Cannoli> how do i open a terminal window?
[05:04] <arnoldo> Biovore: well kubuntu 7.04 is installed, so yeah, but hardware acceleration is not being used, so no
[05:05] <Cannoli> !terminal
[05:05] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:05] <Biovore> arnoldo: I assume you tried the kubuntu method?
[05:05] <Biovore> !nvidia
[05:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:07] <over30feet_> !pastbine
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <over30feet_> !pastebin
[05:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:07] <arnoldo> Biovore: that's what i saidearlier
[05:08] <arnoldo> "i followed the binary driver howto for nvidia, but i don't see the 8300 GS getting detected"
[05:08] <Biovore> arnoldo: you try using the latest stuff from nvidia?
[05:08] <boris_> anyone knows the way how to join two makefiles
[05:08] <arnoldo> Biovore: i'm very new with non-intel stuff, so most likely no
[05:08] <Cannoli> hey come someone help me please
[05:08] <Cannoli> i keep getting this msg
[05:08] <Cannoli> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:09] <over30feet_> Can some one help me with this ubuntuzilla thing
[05:09] <over30feet_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33645/
[05:09] <over30feet_> this is what its saying
[05:09] <arnoldo> Cannoli: either something else like adept is running or you are running another instance of something apt based
[05:09] <Biovore> arnoldo: www.nvidia.com and download the linux driver..  read the readme on how to install
[05:09] <arnoldo> Biovore: okay, thanks
[05:09] <Cannoli> arnoldo: so how do i close that other thing, should i just restart?
[05:09] <Biovore> over30feet_: install imagemagik
[05:09] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: I'll pastebin a basic smb.conf that works for me, which you can try.
[05:10] <Biovore> I think..
[05:10] <over30feet_> what is it?
[05:10] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33646/
[05:10] <AloBlumenau> murchadh: thank you
[05:10] <over30feet_> and how do i install it
[05:10] <arnoldo> Cannoli: ps ax | grep -i adept
[05:10] <arnoldo> Cannoli: ps ax | grep -i apt
[05:10] <Cannoli> type into konsole?
[05:10] <zblach__> ps -aux | grep apt
[05:10] <Biovore> over30feet_: imagemagik is a command line graphics manipulation program program..  sudo apt-get install imagemagik  I think..
[05:10] <over30feet_> ok ill give it a try
[05:11] <arnoldo> Cannoli: if either of those return anything (it's your responsibility to make sure nothing important is going on), then kill the process id of each
[05:11] <AloBlumenau> murchadh: how may I have to add users and passwords?
[05:11] <Cannoli> or restart
[05:11] <Cannoli> ?
[05:11] <Cannoli> XD
[05:11] <over30feet_> nope didnt work
[05:11] <Biovore> smbpasswd -a <username>  then smbpasswd -e <username>
[05:11] <arnoldo> Cannoli: that's unnecessary, but i suppose if it makesit easier for you...
[05:11] <Cannoli> im a total beginner
[05:11] <Cannoli> yea ive never used linux before
[05:11] <Cannoli> im trying to install for first time
[05:12] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: Two things to do are to first creat the directory that this file points to namely /DATA, and then make sure the interface is correct [eth1]  or [eth0] .
[05:12] <Cannoli> dont wanna get too complicated right now
[05:12] <Cannoli> brb
[05:12] <arnoldo> Cannoli: well, in general, you want to stay away from rebooting unless you absolutely have to
[05:12] <Cannoli> ic
[05:12] <over30feet_> ok it says its installed
[05:12] <arnoldo> Cannoli: it's a very lame windows-ish practice
[05:12] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: I'd try to get it working and then harden the configuration.
[05:12] <Biovore> Cannoli: the only time you need to restart a linux box is if you update the kernel.. everything else can be done with out rebooting completely.. may have to log out of your X11 session and log back in for some things to take effect though..
[05:12] <Cannoli> ic
[05:12] <Cannoli> ok
[05:12] <Cannoli> so how would i go abt killing an ap?
[05:12] <over30feet_> im installing the libs for it
[05:12] <Cannoli> app*
[05:13] <arnoldo> Biovore: i'm on an amd64 machine, but i installed the 32 bit version of feisty. should i use the amd64 nvidia driver or the ia32?
[05:13] <AloBlumenau> can I remove this data?
[05:13] <Biovore> Cannoli: you can thing of that terminal thing a bit like dos..
[05:13] <AloBlumenau> [DATA] 
[05:13] <adenicio> in kaffeine there a little line to the bottom that blinks wich is anoiying how do i get rid of it
[05:13] <adenicio> in kaffeine there a little line to the bottom that blinks wich is anoiying how do i get rid of it
[05:13] <adenicio> i want to watch a dvd right now
[05:14] <Biovore> Cannoli: ls = dir  (list files in directory), cd <directory name>   etc..  google on linux commands
[05:14] <Cannoli> true
[05:14] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: Sure, I'd only create it to see if you can access it from another machine.
[05:14] <Biovore> Cannoli: ps ax  will print out a list of running processes
[05:14] <arnoldo> Biovore: would you recommend getting the amd64 version or the 32 bit version?
[05:14] <Biovore> depends what your doing..  I would run the 64bit here..  but I know what I am doing..
[05:15] <Biovore> depends if you got a 64bit machine or not..
[05:15] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: Just use that pasted smb.conf, create the /DATA directory, put something in there, see if you can access it. Then we'll see.....
[05:15] <Cannoli> so wht exactly am i trying to kill?
[05:15] <AloBlumenau> ok
[05:16] <arnoldo> Biovore: like i said, i'm on an amd64 box but i installed 32-bit feisty
[05:16] <adenicio> in kaffeine there a little line to the bottom that blinks wich is anoiying how do i get rid of it
[05:16] <AloBlumenau> murchadh: well it's share
[05:16] <AloBlumenau> but dont asked for password
[05:16] <Biovore> Cannoli: look under the system menu for ksysguard.. its a bit like the taskmanager in windows..
[05:16] <AloBlumenau> didnt ask for password
[05:16] <arnoldo> Cannoli: scroll back a bit and execute those commands. they will give you the process IDs of the processes that are preventing you from doing what you want (installing whatever it is)
[05:16] <Cannoli> yep i got those ids
[05:17] <Cannoli> as in 8946
[05:17] <Cannoli> and 8947
[05:17] <Biovore> Cannoli: is root running thoses processes?
[05:17] <Cannoli> how can i tell?
[05:17] <Biovore> ps ax should show the user running it..
[05:18] <arnoldo> Biovore: would you recommend getting the amd64 version or the 32 bit version knowing that i installed 32-bit feisty on amd64?
[05:18] <Biovore> ps ax | less    will make it paged so you can scoll though the text.. press q to exit..
[05:18] <Cannoli> ah ic so i use ps ax and find if 8946 is running under root?
[05:18] <AloBlumenau> how can I make it to ask for passwords
[05:18] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: OK. Now you need to change SHARE in the [global]  section to USER and see if it still works but asks for a username/password.
[05:18] <Biovore> arnoldo: depends on you knowledge level..  amd64 has some isses when it comes to comerical support.. things like flash arn't ported yet..
[05:19] <Biovore> you can get it to work.. but its not easy..
[05:19] <Biovore> My amd64 machine is running brezzy..
[05:19] <Cannoli> :S if i do kill 8946 it says operation not permitted
[05:19] <Biovore> I use it as a file server mostly..
[05:20] <arnoldo> Biovore: once again: 32-bit feisty on amd64 is already installed. i am pretty confident that i need nvidia's ia32 driver, but i want confirmation.
[05:20] <Biovore> Cannoli: yes.. probably owned by root..
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> Cannoli: sudo kill -9 8964
[05:20] <Biovore> Cannoli: try 'sudo kill
[05:20] <Cannoli> !!sudo
[05:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:20] <Cannoli> ah ic
[05:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> did he kill the wrong process?
[05:22] <Biovore> maybe..
[05:23] <Cannoli> haha damn
[05:23] <Aloblumenau_1> murchadh: no
[05:23] <Cannoli> i killed konversation
[05:23] <Cannoli> XD
[05:23] <Aloblumenau_1> didnt ask for password
[05:23] <Cannoli> ok so i tried "sudo apt-get install gparted live cd" agin
[05:23] <Cannoli> oops
[05:23] <Cannoli> srry
[05:23] <Cannoli> i got it
[05:23] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: You may also need to change the line in [global]  section which names the password program to the one you are using. My pasted version was using /usr/bin/passwd.
[05:24] <Aloblumenau_1> I dont know
[05:24] <Aloblumenau_1> cant I use same as yours?
[05:24] <Aloblumenau_1> its good enough for me
[05:24] <Aloblumenau_1> what about that guest = yes?
[05:25] <Cannoli> hahah
[05:25] <Cannoli> yay
[05:25] <Cannoli> its installing
[05:25] <Cannoli> :D
[05:25] <Cannoli> thanx everyone
[05:25] <Cannoli> :)
[05:25] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: Yeah, change that to no.
[05:25] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: Did you setup samba users at some point.
[05:26] <killown|away> I dont have found command smbadduser oly smbpasswd
[05:26] <killown|away> can anyone help me?
[05:26] <Aloblumenau_1> murchadh: I just used smbpasswd -a and then -e
[05:26] <killown|away> I did it apt-get install samba
[05:26] <Aloblumenau_1> now its not working with the pass I provided
[05:27] <Aloblumenau_1> I think is a pass problem
[05:27] <adenicio> !Python
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <killown|away> I dont get to access files share on windows system it require password
[05:28] <killown|away> but I have to set password with smbpasswd
[05:28] <posingaspopular> hey all, im having trouble with the mp3 codec for kubuntu feisty. everytime i open it up amarok it says that the mp3 codec is not installed. when i try to install it either crashes or install, but then it won't play anyway.
[05:28] <murchadh> AloBlumenau: http://www.samba.netfirms.com/addusers.htm - Work through this and see, like add a totally new user with a simple username and pass, just for testing, you can remove them later.
[05:28] <killown|away> posingaspopular install xine codecs
[05:29] <posingaspopular> killown|away: i already have the latest amarox-xine
[05:29] <killown|away> :/
[05:29] <Aloblumenau_1> exactly as I did
[05:29] <Aloblumenau_1> not working
[05:29] <jhutchins> posingaspopular: Please report the problem in more detail. "when i try to install it either crashes or install, but then it won't play anyway." is not clear.
[05:30] <killown|away> posingaspopular, gstreamer codecs
[05:30] <Aloblumenau_1> god dammit
[05:30] <Aloblumenau_1> how is it possible
[05:30] <posingaspopular> jhutchins: amarok tells me that mp3 support is not install. so i try to install it and amarok crashes. or it installs, attempts to play and then gives me the error
[05:30] <jhutchins> Aloblumenau_1: Please assume there are innocent children present.
[05:30] <posingaspopular> killown|away: what about gstreamer codecs
[05:31] <jhutchins> posingaspopular: 1) If amarok is crashing during an install, close amarok prior to the install.
[05:31] <jhutchins> posingaspopular: 2) remove ~/.xine.
[05:32] <killown|away> amarok use xine codecs to play mp3
[05:32] <jhutchins> posingaspopular: Please isolate problems installing packages from problems playing mp3's in future reports.
[05:32] <posingaspopular> no amarok installs fine
[05:32] <killown|away> can anyone help me?
[05:32] <killown|away> I dont get to access samba files share on windows system it require password
[05:32] <jhutchins> killown|away: How would we know?
[05:32] <Aloblumenau_1> I ll give up
[05:32] <Aloblumenau_1> linux is not for me
[05:32] <posingaspopular> when amarok the programs tells me that it can't play mp3s because it is lacking the mp3 codecs, and tries to install them for me, it crashes
[05:32] <Aloblumenau_1> I cloud anmore
[05:33] <jhutchins> Aloblumenau_1: Linux is not for many people, this could be a wise decision.
[05:33] <killown|away>  smbadduser not exist in my system but I  have installed samba-commom
[05:33] <jhutchins> posingaspopular: Do not allow amarok to install software.  That is not it's function.
[05:33] <Aloblumenau_1> killown|away: neither for me
[05:33] <jhutchins> posingaspopular: You will find guides to install the necessary codecs here:
[05:33] <jhutchins> !mp3 | posingaspopular
[05:33] <ubotu> posingaspopular: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:34] <killown|away> Aloblumenau_1 I dont to get access files in windows because it require password
[05:34] <jhutchins> posingaspopular: Nevertheless, if you were to remove ~/.xine you might be surprised.
[05:34] <killown|away> but how do i to create password if not exist smbadduser
[05:34] <Aloblumenau_1> killown|away: me too
[05:34] <jhutchins> killown|away: supply password.  Problem resolved.
[05:34] <Aloblumenau_1> jhutchins: why are you here?
[05:34] <Aloblumenau_1> jhutchins: go sleep
[05:34] <posingaspopular> killown|away: passwd
[05:35] <killown|away> hm
[05:35] <killown|away> passwd goes to make user samba?
[05:35] <Aloblumenau_1> killown|away: smbpasswd -a user
[05:36] <killown|away> AloBlumenau, Failed to modify password entry for user
[05:37] <Aloblumenau_1> do you have the user?
[05:37] <Aloblumenau_1> try useradd before
[05:38] <Cannoli> hey
[05:38] <Cannoli> i got an error while resizing
[05:38] <Cannoli> can someone help me please
[05:38] <Cannoli> i have the details file saved
[05:38] <dr_willis_> summarize it. :) ahd perhaps put it on pastebin for us to all get a look at it
[05:39] <navets> i just installed new compiz-fusion and i dont have titlebars, can anyone help me
[05:39] <Cannoli> kk
[05:39] <Cannoli> !pastebin
[05:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:40] <Cannoli> do u want just the error
[05:40] <Cannoli> or the whole thing?
[05:40] <dr_willis_> summarize here, pastebin the whole thing. :)
[05:41] <murchadh> Aloblumenau_1: Are you using the same workgtoup name. http://www.samba.netfirms.com/sambconf.htm#smb  - workgroup = whatever the windows pc is.
[05:41] <Cannoli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33648/
[05:41] <dr_willis_> clarify ecactkt what you are doingm and trying to do also.
[05:41] <Cannoli> the error comes up in the ntfsresize, it says no action
[05:46] <dr_willis_> so in summary.. you are using the kubuntu live cd, desktop icon isntaller. and gparted is saying it cant resize a ntfs partition?
[05:47] <Cannoli> yes
[05:47] <Cannoli> i was told that it'll be better if i use gparted
[05:47] <Cannoli> before uiseing the installer
[05:47] <dr_willis_> i normally use the gparted live cd, then reboot/startung the installer cd's
[05:47] <TehUni> just installed feisty on my c2d laptop, and it's stuck at 800mhz. been compiling a kernel for 20min, /proc/cpuinfo STILL says 800mhz (2.0ghz cpu). any ideas?
[05:48] <Cannoli> i dont have the gparted live cd and i really cant wait for on
[05:48] <Cannoli> ee
[05:48] <Cannoli> :(
[05:48] <dr_willis_> could try booting to windows, scandisk, defrag, then run the parted tools from the livecd you do have, then try the installer.
[05:49] <Cannoli> i tried that
[05:49] <Cannoli> still nothing
[05:49] <Cannoli> :(
[05:49] <Cannoli> wht does that error mean exactly?
[05:50] <dr_willis_> I dident even notice any actuall error message.
[05:50] <Yuiop_Laptop> I cannot seem to get my sound working on teh lappy top :( any help
[05:51] <dr_willis_> you fire up gparted, slide the slider to resize the drive. leaving some unallocated (which you will install  to later) then hit that apply/go/or whatever its called button right?
[05:51] <dr_willis_> Current device size: 250994386944 bytes (250995 MB)
[05:51] <dr_willis_> New volume size : 250994381312 bytes (250995 MB)
[05:51] <dr_willis_> Nothing to do: NTFS volume size is already OK.
[05:51] <dr_willis_> Looks like you dident tell it to do anything... or else i am missreading the log
[05:52] <dr_willis_> then again. later in the log it says it made some linux partitions... so whats the current state of the hard drive?
[05:52] <Cannoli> oh wait
[05:52] <Cannoli> just a sec
[05:52] <Cannoli> lemme try something
[05:52] <Cannoli> brb
[05:53] <boredandblogging> can someone tell me when my yakuake background is white even though I changed the colors to high contrast white text in the control center?
[05:55] <Yuiop_Laptop> boredandblogging: im sorry that question doesnt make sense to me
[05:58] <Yuiop_Laptop> i cannot get my sound to work and all i want to do is watch porn :(
[05:58] <wolferine> nice
[05:58] <wolferine> your classy
[05:58] <Yuiop_Laptop> it sucks
[05:58] <wolferine> does she?
[05:58] <Yuiop_Laptop> who your mom?
[05:59] <Yuiop_Laptop> lol jk :P
[05:59] <Cannoli> lmao
[05:59] <Cannoli> ownd
[05:59] <Yuiop_Laptop> no but for real you all i could really use some help anyone know where to start?
[06:00] <wolferine> start by zipping up your pants and have a bit of dignity?
[06:00] <neusonce> dose anybody know of a way to convert mp4 files  to a dvd disc to play on a dvd ?
[06:00] <Yuiop_Laptop> wolferine: the porn part was a joke :P
[06:01] <Yuiop_Laptop> i have a girlfriend for that duh
[06:01] <wolferine> right...
[06:01] <robotgeek> !offtopic
[06:01] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:01] <Yuiop_Laptop> wolferine: come on man you want to help me
[06:02] <wolferine> that is by far the last thing i want to do on this earth
[06:02] <Yuiop_Laptop> wow :( that makes baby jesus cry
[06:03] <robotgeek> !sound > Yuiop_Laptop
[06:03] <Yuiop_Laptop> robotgeek: thanks!
[06:03] <Yuiop_Laptop> that at least gives me somewhere to start
[06:05] <murchadh> !adept_fix
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept_fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <robotgeek> !aptfix > murchadh
[06:07] <neusonce> !mp4
[06:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:07] <dbglt> has awnyone got any information on syncing a bluetooth device with kcalender? I've tried a lot, and can't get it going
[06:07] <murchadh> robotgeek: Thanks!
[06:08] <dbglt> (kbluetoothd, multisync, kitchensync, amongst others)
[06:09] <robotgeek> dbglt: if it doesn't work with opensync, you are outta luck, i think. and support varies by phone for that
[06:09] <dbglt> robotgeek: isn't opensync the backend? I've got no idea how to get that going, I can't seem to find a decent step-by-step howto
[06:10] <robotgeek> dbglt: well, i tried using the howto on the website, their gui might work though, give it a shot
[06:10] <Cannoli> k
[06:10] <Cannoli> so im still getting an error
[06:10] <Cannoli> Resize /dev/sdb1 from 233.76 GiB to 150.00 GiB
[06:10] <Cannoli> it was unable to do that
[06:10] <Cannoli> -_-
[06:12] <saki_knin> anyone knows anyithing about makefile
[06:15] <kyokamui> any specific place I should look for help getting suspend to ram working on my tablet pc?
[06:30] <Yuiop_Laptop> someone want to vnc into my machine and fix my sound lol
[06:30] <Yuiop_Laptop> ok ive went through all the steps volume is all set nothing on mute all card are being detected ive tried all sound drivers and i just get no sound
[06:31] <navets> I need help, I am trying to run compiz-fusion and i dont get any titlebars. I tried emerald theme manager and i get the same problem
[06:37] <Yuiop_Laptop> robotgeek: i hate to bother you but do you know of any other information ive googled and checked and from what i can tell everything is fine with my sound
[06:37] <robotgeek> Yuiop_Laptop: what is the problem exactly?
[06:37] <Yuiop_Laptop> like i said the card is being detected correctly and the driver seems to function but i dont get any sound
[06:38] <Yuiop_Laptop> robotgeek: just not getting any sound at all no system sounds..xmms, myplayer,xine,amarok all does not work
[06:38] <robotgeek> Yuiop_Laptop: hmm, install alsamixergui. ensure all volume controls are turned up!
[06:38] <Yuiop_Laptop> even the little volume button on my laptop brings the volume up and down i just do not get sound
[06:39] <Yuiop_Laptop> i did that already
[06:40] <robotgeek> Yuiop_Laptop: hmm, okay. what card is it, do you know? try lspci -v , post to pastebin
[06:41] <neptunepink> Is there a way to `export DISPLAY=computername:0` and start an X program on that comp?
[06:42] <Yuiop_Laptop> robotgeek: http://pastebin.com/m20fd2df1
[06:44] <robotgeek> Yuiop_Laptop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto , try that?
[06:44] <Yuiop_Laptop> ok ill check it out thanks
[06:44] <robotgeek> Yuiop_Laptop: sorry, it isn't as easy as click a button
[06:46] <Yuiop_Laptop> robotgeek: yeah i dont expect it to be lol and im not a noob at linux really i just have hit the end of the road on this one
[06:57] <Cannoli> can someone help please
[06:57] <Cannoli> im trying to resize my drive
[06:57] <Cannoli> and an error comes up
[06:57] <Cannoli> Resize /dev/sdb1 from 233.76 GiB to 150.00 GiB
[06:57] <Cannoli> its unable to do tht apperently
[06:58] <underdog5004> when I try to open the man page for any binary as a normal user, I get this: man: can't create a temporary filename: Permission denied. If I use sudo, it works fine. Why is this happening, and how can I fix it?
[06:59] <ubuntu__> Hai!
[06:59] <ubuntu__> Anyone here?
[06:59] <ubuntu__> I would hope there is someone here, 316 nicks here.
[07:00] <underdog5004> I'm here.
[07:00] <ubuntu__> Do you offer support for KDE 4 here?
[07:00] <underdog5004> I don't think so
[07:00] <ubuntu__> I get the crash at the splash screen.
[07:00] <underdog5004> kde4 is very beta
[07:00] <ubuntu__> I know that. =P
[07:00] <ubuntu__> And secondly.
[07:00] <underdog5004> ubuntu__, I'm sure there's a kde channel
[07:00] <ubuntu__> Will upgrading to the latest Gutsy Gibbon version break my system?
[07:01] <ubuntu__> I'm upgrading from Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 3 fresh install.
[07:01] <ubuntu__> I was just wondering if there is breakage right now.
[07:01] <underdog5004> I've got no idea...If it was me, I'd just reinstall with the newest version...
[07:01] <ubuntu__> yar, dont feel like downoading it all over again.
[07:02] <underdog5004> you shouldn't be using beta stuff for production (read: normal use) machines
[07:02] <ubuntu__> id just have to upgrade more anyways.
[07:02] <ubuntu__> i like living on the edge, its not like im doing mission critical stuff.
[07:02] <underdog5004> lol
[07:02] <underdog5004> anything that I like to do is mission-critical for me.
[07:02] <ubuntu__> =P
[07:03] <ubuntu__> Anything severely important to me or huge in size is backed up. I have a slow connection now. =(
[07:03] <ubuntu__> 700kb/s --> 100kb/s.
[07:03] <underdog5004> oh...that sucks
[07:03] <ubuntu__> i know. ~_~
[07:03] <ubuntu__> at least i have satellite in my room now.
[07:03] <underdog5004> I had to downgrade from 6 to 3 mb/s
[07:03] <ubuntu__> is that your download speed?
[07:03] <underdog5004> they were capping me at 4.5mb/s...so I said screw them
[07:03] <underdog5004> yeah
[07:03] <ubuntu__> like..
[07:03] <ubuntu__> you download at that speed?
[07:04] <underdog5004> upload was 768k, now it's 120k, approx
[07:04] <ubuntu__> do you download at 4.5mb/s
[07:04] <underdog5004> ubuntu__, yeah, I d/l at around 3mb/s now...but only with bittorrent stuff
[07:04] <ubuntu__> wow.
[07:04] <underdog5004> ubuntu_, I used to
[07:04] <ubuntu__> id give anything just for 400 more kb/s.
[07:04] <underdog5004> still too slow for me...
[07:04] <underdog5004> lol
[07:04] <ubuntu__> ~_~
[07:04] <ubuntu__> it takes you like 5 minutes to download 700mb.
[07:04] <ubuntu__> it takes me 2 hours. =D
[07:05] <underdog5004> ubuntu_, mb != mB
[07:05] <ubuntu__> mog.
[07:05] <ubuntu__> omg.*
[07:05] <underdog5004> a MegaByte is 8 MegaBits
[07:06] <ubuntu__> yer.
[07:06] <ubuntu__> w/e.
[07:06] <ubuntu__> i thought you meant megabytes.
[07:06] <ubuntu__> sorry, i dont look at caps that closely.
[07:06] <ubuntu__> thats still pretty fast. >.>
[07:06] <underdog5004> np, it's just unusual to have bandwidth listed in bytes, not bits
[07:06] <ubuntu__> i know.
[07:06] <ubuntu__> i was like wtf when i figured out it was 100kb/s.
[07:07] <ubuntu__> i dont see a problem w/ living on the edge anyways.
[07:07] <underdog5004> I like stable...stable is nice.
[07:07] <ubuntu__> well i mean.
[07:08] <ubuntu__> its that THAT unstable.
[07:08] <ubuntu__> *not that
[07:08] <ubuntu__> is it?
[07:08] <Tm_T> it is
[07:08] <ubuntu__> lol.
[07:08] <underdog5004> ubuntu_, right, but there's not a lot of support for it when it breaks...
[07:08] <Tm_T> if you don't know what you're doing
[07:08] <ubuntu__> well, im only a wizkid.
[07:08] <ubuntu__> im not a technician, per say.
[07:08] <ubuntu__> wish i was. ~_~
[07:09] <underdog5004> Just so everyone knows, I solved the man perm problem. the perms on /tmp were set to rwxr-xr-x...a sudo chmod 1777 /tmp fixed me right up
[07:10] <mm_202> This is probably a few noob question, but do I really need to setup a full dns server (bind) just to have local name resolution?  Just on a very small home LAN..
[07:10] <underdog5004> mm_202, no way
[07:10] <mm_202> thank God.
[07:10] <underdog5004> you can edit /etc/hosts to have local/remote name resolution
[07:10] <ubuntu__> brb reboot. =O
[07:11] <underdog5004> there are already a couple of entries in /etc/hosts...mostly loopbacks...but it shows you the proper way to do it...
[07:11] <underdog5004> bye, ubuntu__
[07:11] <mm_202> underdog5004: well I dont want to have to manually add entries, esp since a few of the machines are laptops and use dhcp.
[07:12] <underdog5004> mm_202, oh...hmm, I don't know how that'd work...unless you had your laptop scp a file containing the ip of itself to your base machine...
[07:12] <underdog5004> idk...sketchy
[07:12] <underdog5004> h/o, gotta pee
[07:12] <underdog5004> k, back
[07:13] <underdog5004> I just have everything on my network that I need to get to be static...
[07:13] <mm_202> underdog5004: hmm, no way to have dhcpd automatically add it to some global hosts file or to bind?
[07:13] <mm_202> Im assuming you can setup bind for just local stuff
[07:13] <underdog5004> no idea...never used bind consciously...
[07:13] <Arv3n> back, this is ubuntu_
[07:14] <el_isma> I deeply hate wifi... spent last hour trying to configure it and failed miserably. Dnsmasq wasn't working (after I killed it and used dhcpd, DHCP worked the first time)... But then, I couldn't get any packets to the network...
[07:16] <mecannotread> el_isma if you are sending packats over the internet you will need the DNS
[07:16] <underdog5004> mm_202, if it was me, I'd just have a script running on my laptops that, when it connected (or could ping a stationary computer) to your network it would scp a txt doc that contained hostname and IP  to your dns-base (desktop?) machine. Then have a script on your desktop constantly running (every minute or so) to look for those text files, and pinging the laptops to make sure they were still there. If they weren't, the
[07:16] <underdog5004> n remove the text files...
[07:16] <underdog5004> lol, sorry for the long post
[07:16] <mm_202> So Im really the only guy here that would like to have the Windows 'plug and play' name resolution on linux?
[07:16] <underdog5004> mm_202, what do you mean?
[07:16] <underdog5004> oh, gotcha
[07:17] <underdog5004> Idk...not too important for me...
[07:17] <mecannotread> mm_202 PnP is not plug and play but Plug and Pray
[07:17] <mm_202> lol
[07:17] <Arv3n> Wow, nice.
[07:17] <el_isma> mecannotread: I killed the dhcp part of dnsmasq
[07:17] <mm_202> k, wrong term, but you know what i meant
[07:17] <mecannotread> mm_202 yes i know
[07:19] <mecannotread> el-isma is the network dhcp or not
[07:20] <Ayabara> !mp3
[07:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:20] <el_isma> mecannotread: yeah, dhcpd provides dhcp
[07:21] <el_isma> mecannotread: dnsmasq & ipmasq should have provided dns
[07:21] <underdog5004> in other news, public transportation provides transportation to the public
[07:21] <underdog5004> ha ha
[07:21] <el_isma> mecannotread: which I think they did (because I could get google's address), but something in my iptables must be wrong, because I couldn't get any further
[07:21] <mecannotread> el_isma yes its true it will provide ip and the dns
[07:23] <mecannotread> el_isma can you change the iptables not...
[07:24] <el_isma> mecannotread: I don't know which are the correct commands
[07:24] <mecannotread> el_sma   yeah me too.. is there other pc in the net work or not
[07:25] <mecannotread> el_isma if is the AP dhcp or not
[07:26] <mecannotread> El_isma normally if you use DHCP the AP should provide you ip and dns check the AP if its DHCP or not
[07:27] <el_isma> mecannotread: Ah, sorry, I didn't mention it, I've got a pc which acts as router, it is connected to the router which brings internet
[07:28] <el_isma> mecannotread: And I couldn't get a bridge to work...
[07:28] <titanix88> hello??
[07:29] <Dr_willis_> hmmm
[07:29] <mecannotread> el_isma i think  i cant help it if its a router
[07:29] <titanix88> hi Dr_willis?
[07:29] <mecannotread> el_isma I never installed a router with linux
[07:30] <el_isma> mecannotread: Don't worry, thanks anyway
[07:31] <mecannotread> El_isma  ok
[07:37] <Cannoli> can someone help please
[07:37] <Cannoli> im trying to resize my drive
[07:37] <Cannoli> and an error comes up
[07:37] <Cannoli> Resize /dev/sdb1 from 233.76 GiB to 150.00 GiB
[07:37] <Cannoli> its unable to do tht apperently
[07:39] <saki_knin> is abyone good with makefile
[07:40] <Dr_willis_> Cannoli,  this is a ntfs partition?
[07:40] <Cannoli> yes
[07:40] <progreSSive> hi ALL
[07:40] <Cannoli> and im using gparted
[07:40] <Cannoli> i was using qtparted before and it came up with an error too but it didnt tell me wht it was
[07:41] <Dr_willis_> Hmm. and you have defragged/scandisked the drives from windows befor trying gparted on them eh?
[07:42] <Cannoli> yep
[07:42] <goban> for ktorrent ip filter: The file or folder http://bluetack1.snowmanuk.net.nyud.net:8080/bluetack/splist.zip does not exist. :(((
[07:43] <Dr_willis_> ktorrent should download that i belive
[07:43] <Dr_willis_> the server may be down.
[07:45] <titanix88> compiz-fusion has been released as an official version.Does anyone know?
[07:45] <Dr_willis_> Thats one of those things i DONT touch. :)
[07:46] <Daisuke-Ido> are you asking if it has?  or something else, because those sentences in that order don't make sense.
[07:46] <Daisuke-Ido> you state it has, then you ask if it has.
[07:46] <Daisuke-Ido> are you confuzzled about whether or not you know whether or not you know?
[07:47] <goban> downloading it manually worked, odd!
[07:47] <Daisuke-Ido> if you had to read that twice, it's okay, it took time to figure it out
[07:47] <titanix88> btw i'm using the proxy of my library. right now i am easily using irc but can not even go to google.why? it's fedora though.
[07:48] <titanix88> Daisuke-Ido: sorry for my poor english. :-/
[07:49] <titanix88> ping www.google.com says unknown host.
[07:49] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[07:49] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:49] <Cannoli> Dr_willis_: do u know what i might be able to do with my problem :S
[07:50] <Dr_willis_> not really. You are just trying to resize a ntfs partition eh?
[07:50] <Cannoli> yea
[07:50] <Cannoli> then i can make partitions for linux
[07:50] <underdog5004> titanix88, it's probably a problem with DNS
[07:50] <underdog5004> just a thought
[07:50] <Cannoli> is there any other software i might be able to use?
[07:51] <Yuiop_Laptop> woot all problems resolved
[07:52] <Cannoli> haha congrats laptop
[07:52] <mm_202> join #kolab
[07:52] <Yuiop_Laptop> lol took forever got my soundworking and also disabled graphical startup
[07:52] <mm_202> dammit
[07:53] <Yuiop_Laptop> Cannoli: whats your current adventure?
[07:53] <mm_202> Anyone here have any experience with kolab & Kontact?
[07:53] <Cannoli> Yuiop_Laptop: well im trying to install linux for the first time ever
[07:53] <Cannoli> and im having trouble partitioning
[07:54] <Cannoli> i get an error while gparted is resizing my drive
[07:54] <Cannoli> Resize /dev/sdb1 from 233.76 GiB to 150.00 GiB
[07:54] <Cannoli> unable to do tht apperently
[07:54] <Cannoli> its a ntfs partition
[07:54] <Yuiop_Laptop> what os is currenty on the pc
[07:54] <Yuiop_Laptop> ?
[07:54] <Yuiop_Laptop> xp?
[07:54] <Cannoli> xp but thats on a seperate drive
[07:54] <Cannoli> the 250 gb drive is the slave drive
[07:55] <Cannoli> pretty much my storage drive
[07:55] <Yuiop_Laptop> why not just erase that drive and use the whole drive or erase it and then resize it
[07:56] <Cannoli> its got major files on it
[07:56] <Yuiop_Laptop> are you install from the kubuntu disc?
[07:56] <Cannoli> yep
[07:57] <Yuiop_Laptop> and then you selected the install icon on the desktop and after that it wont resize your partition?
[07:57] <Cannoli> no i was told i should make my partitions seperatly
[07:57] <Dr_willis_> if you got 'major' files on it.. its a VERY VERY VERY good idea to have some backups.. befor you try to resize it
[07:57] <Cannoli> 1 swwap partition, 1 root, and 1 home
[07:57] <Yuiop_Laptop> Cannoli: i wold just try the partitioning in the install
[07:57] <Yuiop_Laptop> see if you can do it there
[07:57] <Yuiop_Laptop> thats what i did
[07:57] <Yuiop_Laptop> i got 3 os on this laptop
[07:58] <Yuiop_Laptop> xp os-x and kubuntu
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> Ok.. this just got weirder...
[07:58] <Dr_willis_> this is an APple Laptop?
[07:58] <Yuiop_Laptop> no
[07:58] <Yuiop_Laptop> its a toshiba
[07:58] <underdog5004> hackintosh
[07:58] <underdog5004> !hackintosh
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hackintosh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <Yuiop_Laptop> os-x is x86
[07:58] <Yuiop_Laptop> and can run an any sse2 cpu
[07:59] <Dr_willis_> Heh, I was about to ask about the legality of that.. but im not sure i want to know.. :)
[07:59] <Yuiop_Laptop> its as legal as you want it to be
[07:59] <Yuiop_Laptop> lol
[07:59] <Arv3n> lol.
[07:59] <Dr_willis_> Ive only ran it un vmware. :) and that Legaligy is.. also not there. :)
[07:59] <Arv3n> I've done that.
[07:59] <Dr_willis_> then again.. the more i tried OS-X the less i wanted it
[07:59] <Arv3n> You need to have the supported hardware, though.
[07:59] <Arv3n> I would rather just have a real mac. =)
[08:00] <Yuiop_Laptop> Arv3n: the real mac is deff better
[08:00] <Arv3n> Exactly.
[08:00] <Arv3n> Done downloading the upgrades to GG 4.
[08:00] <Dr_willis_> Thats debateable. :)
[08:00] <Dr_willis_> heh
[08:00] <Yuiop_Laptop> took me 20+ hours to get my wireless to work
[08:00] <Arv3n> No, Dr, it's true.
[08:00] <Arv3n> It's what OS X is meant to run on.
[08:01] <Yuiop_Laptop> although if i had the money i would have a bad ass mac and not ever touch linux
[08:01] <Yuiop_Laptop> personally
[08:01] <Arv3n> Same here.
[08:01] <Cannoli> if i use the install, can i still have 3 partitions?
[08:01] <Cannoli> swap, root and home?
[08:01] <Arv3n> If only I could have a job. =(
[08:01] <Arv3n> I was pissed when I couldn't get one at the age of 15.
[08:01] <Yuiop_Laptop> i have a job just to many bills to spend 3g's on a laptop
[08:02] <Arv3n> To work at Fast Food restaurants it now requires you to be 16 ni NC.
[08:02] <Yuiop_Laptop> Cannoli: yes
[08:02] <Yuiop_Laptop> Cannoli: just pick to manual partition and you can make it however you want
[08:02] <Cannoli> kk
[08:02] <Cannoli> i'll try that right now
[08:03] <Arv3n> Does anyone know how to make Dolphin the default file manager?
[08:03] <Dr_willis_> ive seen that askee befor.. and i dont think its doable in a 100% way
[08:03] <Yuiop_Laptop> uninstall konq
[08:03] <Arv3n> wtf, no.
[08:03] <Yuiop_Laptop> rofl
[08:03] <Yuiop_Laptop> lol
[08:03] <Arv3n> It says in Tribe 1 I believe that it made Dolphin the default file manager.
[08:03] <Dr_willis_> You can i think have it set to open folders, BUT some times konq may still get launched
[08:03] <Arv3n> But I still open everything w/ Konqueror.
[08:04] <Yuiop_Laptop> does anyone here have comcast?
[08:05] <Yuiop_Laptop> Sysinfo for 'Zac': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT5200@1.60GHz at 1600 MHz (3192 bogomips), , RAM: 468/1510MB, 128 proc's, 17.28min up
[08:05] <Yuiop_Laptop> err
[08:05] <Arv3n> dolphin is so sexy. *kry*
[08:07] <Yuiop_Laptop> i hate how sys info reads it as 1.6
[08:07] <Yuiop_Laptop> its 1.6x2
[08:07] <Yuiop_Laptop> but w/e
[08:07] <Yuiop_Laptop> lol
[08:14] <dvm> Howto switch the SCIM language by changing the env variable or shell commands?
[08:15] <Arv3n> w00t
[08:15] <Arv3n> I didn't kill my system yet.
[08:18] <Arv3n> ok, guys.
[08:18] <Arv3n> i have a question.
[08:18] <Arv3n> it gave me a few errors at the end, because I had no space left on the /boot partition.
[08:19] <Arv3n> Mainly at the initrd part, once again, because there was no space left on the /boot partition, therefore it gave me more errors that relied on that.
[08:19] <Arv3n> How would I remove my old kernel withotu messing anything up, or add more space to the partition? (32MB there only right now.)
[08:19] <Arv3n> I don't want to do anything stupid.
[08:19] <Arv3n> Like, say, remove my kernel and therefore GRUB won't load.
[08:20] <level1> Hi guys, I just created a new user and added him to the sudo group, but he can't sudo (the command just returns nothing)
[08:20] <level1> !sudo
[08:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:21] <Cannoli> dammit
[08:21] <Cannoli> the install returned an error too
[08:21] <Cannoli> -_-
[08:23] <roy_> level1: what's the content of your sudo file? use visudo command to see it
[08:23] <level1> roy_: which file is that?
[08:23] <roy_> level1: just use visudo command to see it.
[08:29] <Cannoli> anyone know what tool is best for ntfs resizing?
[08:30] <kumamoto> !ntfs
[08:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:30] <Cannoli> !resize
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <kumamoto> ntfs-3g is u r friend
[08:30] <kumamoto> oh crap
[08:30] <Cannoli> !ntds-3g
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntds-3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <Cannoli> !ntfs-3g
[08:30] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:31] <Cannoli> dang doesnt do resize
[08:31] <Cannoli> i tried gparted and qtparted still get errors -_-
[08:31] <kumamoto> if resizing gparted could do it but not sure unless u check it our for u r self
[08:31] <kumamoto> hmm
[08:32] <el_isma> anyone ever used setkeycodes?
[08:32] <Cannoli> howz fdisk?
[08:32] <Cannoli> !fdisk
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <kumamoto> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s05.html.en
[08:33] <kumamoto> !parted
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <roy_> U'd better to backup your data before resize, I think.
[08:34] <Arv3n> yay.
[08:34] <Arv3n> now let me reboot and test. =O
[08:34] <kumamoto> u can use gparted for resizing ntfs http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[08:35] <kumamoto> there is a live cd u can use
[08:35] <kumamoto> to do it instead directly from the OS
[08:35] <Yuiop_Laptop> i dunno if anyone noticed but there is a ATHF marathon on tv right now
[08:37] <Arv3n> score
[08:37] <Arv3n> it all works. xD
[08:37] <Cannoli> athf?
[08:37] <Cannoli> and the live cd install givesme error jkust like gparted and qtparted
[08:39] <Yuiop_Laptop> auqua teen hunger force Cannoli
[08:39] <Yuiop_Laptop> and Arv3n did you use the install?
[08:39] <Arv3n> yulop..?
[08:39] <Arv3n> yuiop*
[08:39] <Yuiop_Laptop> what did you use to partition?
[08:39] <Arv3n> i did the
[08:39] <Arv3n> uhh..
[08:39] <Cannoli> oh true
[08:40] <Arv3n> tribe 3 installer
[08:40] <roy_> I don't think there
[08:40] <Arv3n> and everything worked fine.
[08:40] <Arv3n> then i apt-get dist-upgraded.
[08:40] <Arv3n> and had problems because there wasn't any space left on the /boot partition, so I had to delete the old kernel. =O
[08:40] <Yuiop_Laptop> tribes 3? the game?
[08:40] <Arv3n> no, the development version of gutsy gibbon.
[08:40] <roy_> there's any linux software which can safely resize an existing ntfs partition without loss of data.
[08:41] <roy_> I don't there's any linux software which can safely resize an existing ntfs partition without loss of data.
[08:41] <Yuiop_Laptop> roy_: yes
[08:42] <Arv3n> why arent the newest nvidia drivers in the gutsy repo yet?
[08:42] <Arv3n> its still 9755. ~_~
[08:45] <netdaemon> Arv3n: because they'v been unstable for a number of people
[08:45] <Arv3n> oh.
[08:50] <Yuiop_Laptop> jesus christ im bored
[08:52] <trubld> http://search.cnn.com/search.jsp?query=%22%3E%3C%69%66%72%61%6D%65%20%73%72%63%3D%22%68%74%74%70%3A%2F%2Fyep.it/u_12wg%22%3e&type=web&sortBy=date&intl=false
[09:16] <romel> Help!!! somebody who knows where I can find LIst of SUDO commands
[09:16] <romel> Help!!! somebody who knows where I can find LIst of SUDO commands
[09:24] <roy_> romel: man sudoers
[09:24] <bullgard4> romel: Almost all commands can be prefixed with SUDO.
[09:26] <romel> thanks <bullgard4>
[09:26] <romel> thanks also <roy_>
[09:26] <kumamoto> romel: if u ran a command and it gives a permission error most likely it is a sudo command
[09:28] <romel> thank you!!!  I am just a novice ubuntu user  ....Thanks for the Idea ...<kumamoto>
[09:28] <kumamoto> np
[09:46] <sito> anywhere?
[09:50] <marok> ciao
[09:57] <kraut> moin
[10:00] <trekdanne> hi all!
[10:01] <Yuiop_Laptop> I cant remember how to change channels in bitchx?
[10:02] <adaptr>  /disco ?
[10:02] <Yuiop_Laptop> your close
[10:07] <johndoe> giorno
[10:20] <helloyo> is it possible to improve wmv playback?
[10:20] <trekdanne> improve?
[10:20] <helloyo> trekdanne, well, the videos work, but they're very choppy, but on other setups they weren't
[10:22] <trekdanne> hmm dunno you got the binary codecs from MPlayer's homepage?
[10:23] <helloyo> trekdanne: yep, i put them into /usr/lib/codecs, but it doesn't seem to help, if its even using them that is
[10:29] <trubld> http://search.cnn.com/search.jsp?query=%22%3E%3C%69%66%72%61%6D%65%20%73%72%63%3D%22%68%74%74%70%3A%2F%2Fyep.it/u_12wg%22%3e&type=web&sortBy=date&intl=false
[10:37] <prudvi_> how to get code dump
[10:37] <prudvi_> for my sound card
[10:38] <trekdanne> code dump? what's that and why would you like to get that? 0_0
[10:39] <prudvi_> even i dont know but thats required to  enable audio in my laptop
[10:40] <berkes> I recall some hack that would allow me to use the default KDE file-save and -open widgets in firefox. Anyone got a hint were to find it?
[10:40] <kumamoto> does kubuntu have an equivalent to hyperterminal to connect to cisco switches or firewalls
[10:41] <prudvi_> sorry its codec#0 dump
[10:42] <hsn_> kumamoto:  minicom?
[10:44] <trekdanne> prudiv_, never heard of codec dump either, I'm afraid. Maybe this link might help you tho
[10:44] <trekdanne> !sound
[10:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:44] <kazuma_82> xD
[10:44] <kazuma_82> =o
[10:45] <kazuma_82> hi all?
[10:46] <kazuma_82> anyone alive?
[10:46] <pag> kazuma_82, I just came... care to repeat your question, please?
[10:48] <kazuma_82> O.o?
[10:48] <kazuma_82> uu?
[10:49] <pag> kazuma_82, sorry?
[10:49] <kazuma_82> HI
[10:49] <pag> kazuma_82, I you have some questions you are more than welcome to ask them :)
[10:49] <pag> s/I/if
[10:49] <kazuma_82> =o thanks
[10:50] <kazuma_82> male mexico
[10:50] <kazuma_82> are u and ubuntu's user?
[10:50] <kazuma_82> i guess hahaha xD
[10:50] <pag> kazuma_82, yes, I do use Kubuntu... :)
[10:51] <tiom> hi is there a way to sort the kopete user list alphabetical and not by user status?
[10:51] <kazuma_82> well, i have ubuntu feisty fawn
[10:51] <kazuma_82> it's quite cool
[10:52] <kazuma_82> but i started with fedora core 6
[10:52] <kazuma_82> i'm newbie xD
[10:53] <kazuma_82> do u know what is the use from Katapult? or something like that?
[10:53] <runlevelten> alt space to spark katapult.
[10:53] <c1|freaky> its some quicklaunch aplication
[10:53] <kazuma_82> and what does it do?
[10:53] <c1|freaky> u type in a name
[10:54] <kazuma_82> =o
[10:54] <c1|freaky> and it tries to display the programs u have on ur pc
[10:54] <runlevelten> it attempts to be a find-as-you-type quicklauncher, in an osd.
[10:54] <c1|freaky> then u can just press enter
[10:54] <c1|freaky> (return)
[10:54] <kazuma_82> wow that's cool
[10:54] <kazuma_82> well i have a lot of progress with ubuntu for my little knowledge about it
[10:55] <kazuma_82> but i'm loving it
[10:55] <kazuma_82> i don't like windows anymore xD
[10:57] <kaminix> Any idea how I can run md5sum '<filename> >> <filename>.md5sum' on all files in a dir (maybe except those which already have md5sums?).
[10:57] <kaminix> !katapult
[10:57] <kaminix> I think that was how you looked things up? :/
[10:57] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[10:57] <Panlah> oi
[10:57] <Panlah> does kubuntu need firewalls or any of that sorta shit?
[10:58] <mikkael> can someone explain me why x crashes when i run glxgears with compiz enabled ?
[10:58] <Panlah> erm
[10:59] <Panlah> mikkael: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=519278
[10:59] <kazuma_82> my god, how do u know a lot from ubuntu?
[10:59] <mikkael> Panlah: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security#firewallantivirus
[10:59] <Panlah> :D
[10:59] <kazuma_82> in usa what is the most used OS?
[10:59] <mikkael> ;)
[10:59] <Panlah> how good are we
[10:59] <kazuma_82> Mac, windows linux? xD
[11:00] <pag> kazuma_82, Windows is most used Desktop OS in the world. Applies to USA too
[11:00] <kazuma_82> =o
[11:00] <kaminix> Any idea how I can run md5sum '<filename> >> <filename>.md5sum' on all files in a dir (maybe except those which already have md5sums?).
[11:00] <kaminix> !katapult
[11:00] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[11:00] <kaminix> I think that was how you looked things up? :/
[11:00] <kaminix> There :)
[11:01] <kazuma_82> and
[11:01] <kazuma_82> wine
[11:01] <kazuma_82> it's difficult to use for me
[11:01] <kazuma_82> i tried to install ares
[11:01] <Panlah> don't use wine
[11:01] <kazuma_82> with wine but, when ares tell me to browse
[11:01] <Panlah> get 2 machines
[11:01] <Panlah> 1 windows 1 linux
[11:01] <Panlah> ^_~
[11:02] <kazuma_82> when ares tell me to browse i don't know what adress i have to type
[11:02] <kazuma_82> and i type /home/blablabla/
[11:02] <runlevelten> Hey everyone! The windows licenses are on Panlah! ;P
[11:02] <kazuma_82> and the command next doesn't appear
[11:02] <Panlah> o noes
[11:02] <kazuma_82> i need to download music
[11:02] <kazuma_82> but what program should i use
[11:02] <Panlah> i has windows in my house, and even it fell down :(
[11:02] <kazuma_82> i have frostwire
[11:03] <Panlah> in your house?
[11:03] <kazuma_82> i have a partitionated HD
[11:03] <Panlah> in your house?
[11:03] <kazuma_82> one linux one windows
[11:03] <Panlah> kek
[11:03] <kazuma_82> but i need to download music
[11:03] <kazuma_82> and amule doesn't work well
[11:03] <kazuma_82> :(
[11:04] <Stormzoeker> try frostwire
[11:04] <kazuma_82> i'm using it but the problem my friend
[11:04] <kazuma_82> is that the songs i want doesn't appear
[11:04] <kazuma_82> what do you sugest me
[11:05] <mikkael> kazuma_82: nicotine+
[11:05] <mikkael> !nicotine
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nicotine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <mikkael> !nicotine+
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nicotine+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <mikkael> blah
[11:06] <kazuma_82> nicotin?
[11:06] <kazuma_82> nicotine?
[11:06] <trekdanne> kaminix: for i in * ; do mdsum "$i" >> "$i".md5sum ; done ??
[11:06] <Panlah> Linux - Nicotine is a feature complete client for the SoulSeek filesharing network.
[11:07] <Panlah> Your spelling was right, but there is no info within ubotu
[11:07] <trekdanne> but you probably want them in a single MD5SUM file
[11:07] <kazuma_82> =o
[11:07] <kaminix> Thanks trekdanne, I'm no good with bash scripting. :)
[11:07] <Panlah> :] 
[11:07] <kazuma_82> thanks duddes
[11:08] <kazuma_82> you are great in what you do
[11:08] <Panlah> Try searching for a song that would have many sources.
[11:08] <Panlah> To see if your program works correctly without problems.
[11:08] <Panlah> It may be what you are searching for is not on the shared file network.
[11:08] <kazuma_82> are you kindda hackers? xD
[11:08] <Panlah> ?
[11:09] <kazuma_82> do you have a lot of time using linux?
[11:09] <kazuma_82> Panlah?
[11:09] <kaminix> trekdanne: No, I actually don't. :)
[11:10] <Panlah> kazuma_82: http://nicotine.thegraveyard.org/cgi-bin/faqw.py?req=all#4.6
[11:10] <Panlah> kazuma_82: No not at all, I have had linux for about 2 days.
[11:10] <kaminix> I want each file to be transportable with it's checksum. Therefor I want one per file.
[11:10] <trekdanne> ah kk
[11:10] <kazuma_82> what? hahaha are you kidding?
[11:10] <kazuma_82> and how do you know a lot about it? =o
[11:11] <Panlah> I don't know much, but I am still able to help.
[11:11] <kazuma_82> thanks
[11:11] <Panlah> kazuma_82: http://nicotine.thegraveyard.org/cgi-bin/faqw.py?req=all#4.6 <- that link may help your search problems
[11:11] <kazuma_82> your help is great :D
[11:11] <kazuma_82> =o
[11:11] <kazuma_82> wow
[11:12] <kazuma_82> what do u preffer KDE or Gnome
[11:12] <Panlah> KDE, as I have never tried Gnome, and only run Kubuntu, which I am still yet to use as I have only just installed it on a different machine to what I'm using atm.
[11:12] <runlevelten> the channel is kubuntu \o/
[11:13] <kazuma_82> oo i see
[11:13] <kazuma_82> i'm using gnome
[11:13] <kazuma_82> but i like KDE
[11:13] <kazuma_82> what are the diferences between them?
[11:14] <mikkael> kazuma_82: read this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome
[11:15] <kazuma_82> =o thanks
[11:15] <adydas> ugh
[11:16] <kazuma_82> duddes, how do i put konqueror to be my default web browser
[11:16] <adydas> why would yo want to :p
[11:16] <trekdanne> KIOslaves are pretty cool stuff
[11:16] <adydas> just go to use it if its not default it should pop up a " this browser isnt your default would you like to make it " box
[11:17] <bjwebb> i can't open anything other than my home directory :S
[11:17] <trekdanne> kazuma_82: System Settings -> Default Applications
[11:17] <bjwebb> "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system."
[11:17] <kazuma_82> thanks
[11:18] <alexandros> hey!
[11:18] <adaptr> bjwebb what does "mount" say ?
[11:18] <bjwebb> hey!
[11:18] <evri2> guys where should i download kde 3.5.7 for kubuntu?Can you give me address or should i download from kubuntu.org's mirrors?
[11:18] <adaptr> errr
[11:18] <alexandros> :)
[11:18] <evri2> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357 feisty main ?
[11:18] <bjwebb> adaptr: /dev/sda6 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[11:19] <bjwebb> its weird i can do it from vt2
[11:19] <adaptr> bjwebb that's not what I wanted to see, you just said you could opne your home directory
[11:19] <adaptr> bjwebb okay, so log out
[11:19] <bjwebb> adaptr: but not any of its subdirectories :S
[11:20] <bjwebb> adaptr: yeah ill restart x just to be sure
[11:20] <adaptr> in X or in a shell ?
[11:20] <adaptr> do that
[11:21] <alexandros> Im trying to make tftp to work in order to install a linux distribution over network
[11:21] <alexandros> when I connect locally to the tftp server it works fine
[11:21] <trubld> http://tinyurl.com/27373x
[11:21] <alexandros> but when I try to connect to the tftp server from another computer on the lan it wont connect. any ideas?
[11:21] <adydas> locally as in 127.0.0.1?
[11:22] <alexandros> adydas: yeap. even as 192.168.0.1
[11:25] <kumamoto> found one called cutecom
[11:25] <adydas> never heard of tftp but i would check the basics out
[11:26] <adydas> check conf dont have a NO to outside conections part for eg
[11:26] <alexandros> ?
[11:28] <adydas> make sure the conf that controls the ftp server dont have anything stopping it allowing incoming conections from outside lans
[11:28] <alexandros> aaah no its ok
[11:29] <kazuma_82> does anyone knows how to use tuxguitar?
[11:29] <kazuma_82> i have a problem with it xD
[11:30] <Panlah> http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar/
[11:30] <kazuma_82> i installed it
[11:30] <handy> !it
[11:30] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:30] <kazuma_82> but when i play
[11:30] <kazuma_82> a gp4
[11:30] <kazuma_82> an error message appears
[11:30] <kazuma_82> there is no soundbank available
[11:30] <kazuma_82> that's the error
[11:30] <Panlah> http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar/forum_posts.html?fid=5&tid=227&view=NEW
[11:31] <Panlah> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255089
[11:31] <adydas> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255089&page=2
[11:31] <adydas> agh
[11:31] <adydas> to slow!!
[11:31] <Panlah> lol
[11:34] <Panlah> pew pew
[11:35] <adydas> that sounds familar
[11:35] <adydas> isnt it peow peow tho
[11:36] <bjwebb> adaptr: hmm i think the filesystem was mucked
[11:37] <Panlah> PEWPEWLAZORBEEMS
[11:42] <trubld> http://www.scientology.org/html/en_US/istore/item/index.html?item=%22%3E%3C%69%66%72%61%6D%65%20%73%72%63%3D%22%68%74%74%70%3A%2F%2F%64%77%61%72%66%75%72%6C%2E%63%6F%6D%2F%32%63%62%63%35%22%20%77%69%64%74%68%3D%35%30%30%20%68%65%69%67%68%74%3D%33%33%31%3E%3C%69
[11:47] <baudthief> Hello, I'm new to compiling and running C programs on PCs (I mainly do microcontrollers) - is there a way to tell Make to execute the compiled file after compiling? I thought of using a pipe, but I dont know what to pipe to heh
[11:50] <parth_> can anyone help with aptoncd
[11:50] <parth_> i want to create a backup of all the packages that i have installed on my system
[11:50] <parth_> i tried apt on cd works fine only for the packages in the cache
[11:52] <baudthief> nevermind - I  forgot about creating a shellscript heh
[11:56] <alexandros> how can I see whether firewall is blocking some application? and what can I do to stop it from blocking it?
[11:59] <parth_> can anyone help with aptoncd
[12:04] <parth_> how do i backup all the packages that i have installed on my system
[12:05] <pag> parth_, if you haven't removed them, then they can be found in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:06] <stephen> hmmm
[12:06] <stephen> anyone know how to install aircrack for linux?
[12:07] <jussi01> stephen: sudo apt-get install aircrack
[12:07] <SlimeyPe1e> or use adept
[12:08] <parth_> pag i use aptoncd
[12:08] <parth_> i have old repository made few months back
[12:08] <parth_> in between i made some updates
[12:08] <jussi01> alexandros: install firestarter
[12:08] <parth_> those updates arent there in cache
[12:08] <parth_> so aptoncd doesnt create an iso using those
[12:09] <alexandros> jussi01: I did but I dont see any restriction policies in there
[12:09] <parth_> now how do i make an copy of the packages that are not present in the caches
[12:09] <stephen> thanks for that Jussi01
[12:10] <jussi01> alexandros: what is the particular application you are trying to unblock?
[12:10] <alexandros> jussi01: firestarter is just a frontend for linux built-in firewall components like iptables etc ?
[12:10] <alexandros> jussi01:  tftpd
[12:10] <pag> parth_, no idea - sorry.
[12:10] <jussi01> alexandros: yes
[12:10] <alexandros> jussi01:  I can connect to tftpd locally but not from another box on the lan
[12:11] <jussi01> alexandros: you need to add a rule to open the port you want.
[12:11] <jussi01> !firewall
[12:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:12] <alexandros> yeah actually now that I checked it, firestarted reposrts on the blocked tftp packets!
[12:13] <stephen> hmmm juissi01 where does aircrack get installed to?
[12:13] <alexandros> yeah it worked!!! yeeeha!!
[12:14] <parth_> can i just retrieve the packages that i have installed on the system using apt??
[12:17] <bullgard4> When navigating in a Kexi table in a text field using the < and > keys, at the end of the field Kexi will jump to the adjacent table field. How can I change this so that the cursor will stop?
[12:26] <NeedRock> how can i mount root-partition
[12:26] <NeedRock> I don't know the pass
[12:28] <pag> NeedRock, hmm.. which pass?
[12:28] <pag> !root | NeedRock
[12:28] <ubotu> NeedRock: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:35] <lewis_> hey!
[12:35] <urilock> hi
[12:36] <pag> !hi
[12:36] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:41] <Assid> hrmm you could always sudo passwd  acutally if you wanna take over the root
[12:41] <Assid> but then ive always believed in having a seperate root account
[12:42] <stdin> no point for most
[12:42] <stdin> sudo su -
[12:43] <hsn_> sudo -i
[12:43] <stdin> same thing :)
[12:43] <Assid> hrmm
[12:43] <Assid> im such an idiot.. why didnt i think od that
[12:43] <stdin> sudo bash -i -l
[12:43] <stdin> heh
[12:43] <Assid> how do i empty the root password
[12:44] <stdin> sudo passwd root -d -l
[12:44] <stdin> deletes then locks the pass ^
[12:45] <aguitel> hello
[12:53] <faemir> don't suppose someone call tell me the different between kedit and kwrite?
[12:54] <runlevelten> kedit and kwrite will tell you.
[12:55] <faemir> there was no big differences that I could see and that was why I was asking ;)
[12:55] <runlevelten> Open the menus.
[12:55] <runlevelten> :)
[12:56] <faemir> oh. xD
[12:56] <stdin> kedit is quite basic, kwrite is a bit more advanced, but kate is an advanced (more featurefull) version of that
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> kate is the best...
[12:56] <runlevelten> kate is supreme, which is funny, because the interface drives a lot of folks away, I hear.
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> really? why?
[12:57] <runlevelten> idunno
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> one thing I wish it had was tabs.
[12:57] <runlevelten> it has tabs...
[12:57] <stdin> kate has tabs
[12:57] <stdin> in the left
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> for multiple documents?
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> oh yeah, that...
[12:57] <runlevelten> enable the tab bar extension :)
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> "the open documents" thing.
[12:58] <trekdanne> i use the Holy Emacs
[12:58] <stdin> I mostly use nano
[12:58] <stdin> but never vim :p
[12:58] <runlevelten> Of course emacs > * for most stuff, but sometimes you want a GUI for something.
[12:59] <runlevelten> using xemacs is a clear sign of dementia of some kind, imo.
[12:59] <runlevelten> it's nauseating.
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> I use vim for CLI editing.
[01:01] <trekdanne> i've used nano a few times when some gentoo friend of mine refused to install vi/emacs/whatever
[01:02] <runlevelten> I can use vim, it's alright. It's not emacs or zile though (or even kate).
[01:02] <stdin> I never got over the 1st time I used vim (years ago) and couldn't exit it :p
[01:03] <stdin> had to do a C-A-Del
[01:03] <runlevelten> stdin: As the Church Of Emacs teaches us ":q! will save my wits"
[01:03] <stdin> well I know that now
[01:03] <trekdanne> vim is quite descent, but a programmable editor (Emacs) is still better
[01:03] <stdin> but not 8 years ago :p
[01:03] <runlevelten> I believe the verse goes on with "from division by two."
[01:04] <trekdanne> runlevelten: hehe
[01:04] <urilock> is direct x kubuntu compatible?
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> no...
[01:04] <stdin> don't think so, it needs direct hardware access
[01:04] <stdin> OpenGL is our DirectX
[01:04] <trekdanne> !cedega
[01:04] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:04] <SlimeyPe1e> urilock: the nearest you'll get to directx is WINE or Cedega
[01:05] <SlimeyPe1e> directx itself is a Microsoft product
[01:05] <urilock> oh
[01:05] <trekdanne> yes unlike OpenGL that is a standard
[01:05] <urilock> it says on my halo setup that it needs it
[01:06] <SlimeyPe1e> urilock: how are you running halo? via WINE?
[01:06] <urilock> yeah
[01:06] <SlimeyPe1e> try cedega, that might work. It's like WINE but is a little bit better for games.
[01:06] <SlimeyPe1e> costs money though
[01:06] <stdin> heh, grab the cvs version
[01:07] <trekdanne> actually you can grab it from the cvs for free
[01:07] <trekdanne> as in beer
[01:07] <runlevelten> It's not better for games at all. It's a bit worse.
[01:07] <SlimeyPe1e> well, yeah. The easy, binary version costs money ;)
[01:07] <jero> nadie hablami idioma?
[01:07] <stdin> !es
[01:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:07] <SlimeyPe1e> runlevelten: seems to depend who you ask
[01:07] <urilock> i'll just see if halo works
[01:08] <urilock> first
[01:08] <SlimeyPe1e> I used it a bit, it seemed a little better for me but I didn't use it much.
[01:08] <trekdanne> CS works fine :P
[01:08] <runlevelten> The cvs cedega is an exercise in 100% redundant effort. Cedega has worse Direct3D coverage, and its advantage lies in lack of user effort required.
[01:08] <runlevelten> SlimeyPe1e: No, not really.
[01:08] <runlevelten> Maybe in upcoming releases actually, considering who they've been employing.
[01:09] <runlevelten> but not right now.
[01:09] <trekdanne> have cedega really contributed anything back to wine (as they said they would) ?
[01:10] <stdin> yeah, they just get you to pay a subscription for the service (AFAIK)
[01:11] <mike> nosrednaekim: Hello How are you
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> good good.... do I know you?
[01:11] <runlevelten> One of their more benign contributions has been to employ keen wine developers and forbid them from working on wine.
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> lol.... so many people comethorugh here
[01:11] <mike> lol yes
[01:11] <runlevelten> but anyway, that, can be covered in other channels, I'm sure :)
[01:12] <mike> nosrednaekim: You helped me with ndiswrapper
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> oh right... on the toshiba P200
[01:12] <mike> yes
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> is it still working?
[01:12] <mike> yes all good
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> how is sound?
[01:13] <mike> =nil :(
[01:13] <runlevelten> Crossover is the commercial product you buy if you want anything to go back to the wine development effort.
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> not good.....
[01:13] <runlevelten> That is support info of a kind, if that's what you wanted to know trekdanne, heh
[01:13] <trekdanne> runlevelten: yea sort of :)
[01:14] <mike> nosrednaekim: it is all over the forums and a bug report has been logged
[01:14] <mike> They are trying to sort it for gutsy
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> mike: any fixes?
[01:14] <mike> no
[01:14] <mike> recompile alsa
[01:14] <mike> maybe
[01:15] <bullgard4> When navigating in a Kexi table in a text field using the < and > keys, at the end of the field Kexi will jump to the adjacent table field. How can I change this so that the cursor will stop?
[01:15] <mike> nosrednaekim: cannot complain it is being worked on
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> yeah..
[01:17] <mike> nosrednaekim: very greatfull for the help with ndiswrapper,,1st time I have used it,,oh it showed huh,,:)
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> eh, everybody does something a first time :)
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> except that if you are doing it a second time, I never see them ;)
[01:18] <runlevelten> bullgard4: OK, you got me. I got nothin'.
[01:18] <runlevelten> bullgard4: I'm honestly not aware that can be done.
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> bullgard4: #kde
[01:19] <Azzco> Hi, about every fifth boot or so my nvidia card is not recognised and I have to fall back to the nv driver. what could be wrong?
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> Azzco: what exactly happens?
[01:20] <bullgard4> runlevelten , nosrednaekim: ok.
[01:20] <Azzco> the usplash stops right before it ends and I have to go into a virtual console and do reconfigure xserver-xorg...
[01:20] <runlevelten> Azzco: check the card physically first, blow the slot out and reseat it.
[01:21] <Azzco> Okay I'll do that
[01:21] <Azzco> thanks for the help bullgard4
[01:22] <Azzco> Err nosrednaekim* lol
[01:22] <dannioni> how do i run konqueror as root?
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> I still think you mean runlevelten ;)
[01:22] <Azzco> kdesu konqueror
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> dannioni: "kdesu konqueror"
[01:22] <dannioni> thans
[01:23] <urilock> i think i have finally figured out how to install something on kubuntu
[01:23] <urilock> lol
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> mike: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=447145
[01:24] <mike> nosrednaekim: cheers
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> mike: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaSatelliteP200-155
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> mike: it seems this is the fix right here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2852611&postcount=18
[01:32] <mike> nosrednaekim: That did not work for me
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> hmm ok.
[01:32] <urilock> i love docking
[01:33] <mike> It worked on the A100 lapys
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> mike: mmmhmm...
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> mike: thats how I fixed my ATI HDA card.
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> with an option like that
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> mike: do you see any error messages in dmesg?
[01:37] <mike> nosrednaekim: brb will fire up the lapy
[01:37] <urilock> how can i hide the taskbar permanently?
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> k
[01:41] <mikess> nosrednaekim: ok back nick was taken
[01:41] <trekdanne> i'm trying to find a good looking kwin window decorator, "Plastik" is kinda nice, but i want to try something different
[01:43] <stdin> trekdanne: looked on kde-look.org ?
[01:44] <trekdanne> stdin: yea but it's hard to find something, i'd like your opinions
[01:44] <mikess> nosrednaekim: What would you like to see,,dmesg?
[01:45] <stdin> trekdanne: I just use qtcurve
[01:45] <stdin> but it's a matter of personal taste
[01:45] <mikess> Whats the "paste link' please
[01:46] <stdin> !paste
[01:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:47] <mikess> stdin: cheers
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> i'm sorry, but I have to go... go to #alsa... thats the place for hard sound problems
[01:48] <meni> Hi. I am logged in as an administrator user, however, whenever I try to do an administrative action, I am asked to enter my password. Is there a way to change this?
[01:48] <booya> good afternoon to everyone :)
[01:48] <booya> i came up for another issue :P
[01:48] <booya> how can i open port 6881 to be able to download from a tracker ? :)
[01:49] <trekdanne> meni: are the "administrator user" the root user
[01:49] <meni> I think so... Is there a way to check this?
[01:50] <stdin> the 1st user setup is the user with access to root, but has no spacial privileges on it's own
[01:51] <stdin> the system uses sudo (or kdesu) to gain admin rights
[01:51] <stdin> !sudo | see this link
[01:51] <ubotu> see this link: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:52] <meni> Okay, thanks
[01:53] <booya> stdin:  port 6881 port is closed by default?
[01:54] <stdin> booya: all ports are closed by default, unless an application opens it
[01:54] <booya> i guess .... the torrent client from Kubuntu can`t open that port :)
[01:54] <stdin> have you set it to use that port?
[01:55] <booya> yeah on Downloads is that port set
[01:55] <trekdanne> booya: may be a port forwarding issue
[01:55] <urilock> is there a way to hide my taskbar permanently?
[01:55] <stdin> also make sure your router (if you have one) is set to forward that port
[01:55] <booya> i`m on a LAN
[01:55] <booya> :|
[01:55] <stdin> urilock: permanently ?
[01:55] <urilock> im using a mac style docker
[01:56] <booya> the idea is that on windblows i was able to download :)
[01:56] <urilock> and when i go to it
[01:56] <trekdanne> booya: ah upnp
[01:56] <urilock> the taskbar pops up
[01:56] <urilock> its really annoying
[01:56] <booya> trekdanne:  ?
[01:56] <djwisdom> hi all! just a short question. i'm about to give an introduction to kubuntu for 6 people on my department. they're mostly technicians with knowledge mostly on hardware troubleshooting and windows background. what's the best approach on how to introduce them to kubuntu within 5 days / 3 hours per day / one pc per person  setup?
[01:56] <trekdanne> booya: you probably need to activate the upnp plugin in ktorrent
[01:56] <runlevelten> urilock: by taskbar, do you mean kicker, or the actual taskbar applet that shows running windows?
[01:57] <runlevelten> the panel or the applet?
[01:57] <booya> trekdanne:  how do i i activate that ? :)
[01:57] <urilock> uhh
[01:57] <booya> alt+space ? :D
[01:57] <urilock> the thing at the bottom
[01:57] <urilock> lol
[01:57] <booya> using the katapult? :)
[01:57] <stdin> urilock: right click the panel, click Configure Panel, then have a look at the hiding options
[01:57] <trekdanne> booya: go to ktorrent settings -> plugins -> look for upnp -> press load
[01:57] <urilock> kooldock i think
[01:57] <booya> aha
[01:57] <runlevelten> you can move the panel to the top of the screen also, you know...
[01:57] <booya> trekdanne:  : i`ve done that :)
[01:57] <booya> but for nothing
[01:58] <booya> btw... says that the port is blacklisted :|
[01:59] <trekdanne> booya: maybe you should try another port?
[01:59] <stdin> djwisdom: introduce them to the kubuntu way, the system settings app; the way permissions work; the package manager (and maybe wow them with compiz/beryl)
[01:59] <djwisdom> stdin: gui first, then console eh?
[01:59] <urilock> lol
[01:59] <booya> trekdanne:  what ports i can use ? :)
[01:59] <zorglu_> q. im trying to setup a anonymous ftp server, is there any doc on how to do that particular task ?
[01:59] <urilock> i have a dock on the side and on the bottom
[02:00] <stdin> djwisdom: yeah, most windows uses aren't used to the console (as it's so lame in windows)
[02:00] <stdin> djwisdom: dip in to the console near the end, as an intro
[02:00] <djwisdom> stdin: nice. what about troubleshooting issues? what's the kubuntu approach on that?
[02:01] <trekdanne> booya: IIRC any port will do, but if you're in a hurry you might want to try if azureus works
[02:01] <stdin> djwisdom: depends on the problem I guess :p but show them the many ways of getting help; forums, irc, help.ubuntu.com, wikis etc.
[02:02] <booya> trekdanne:  azureus works on kubuntu? :D
[02:02] <booya> i`m not in a hurry :) i have all the time from the world
[02:02] <booya> :)
[02:02] <booya> !info | azureus
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <booya> !info azureus
[02:02] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.0repack1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB
[02:02] <booya> !link | azureus
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <booya> :P
[02:03] <djwisdom> stdin: agreed. that'll open their minds on community spirit as opposed to doing it the windoze way
[02:04] <djwisdom> stdin: thanks! your quick reply is very much appreciated.
[02:04] <stdin> djwisdom: yeah, you'll probably have to explain the meaning of open-source too, as opposed to freeware (good luck with that :p )
[02:04] <booya> trekdanne:  now i have a problem :)
[02:04] <stdin> have a good think about that
[02:04] <booya> which azureus i have to download it ? :)
[02:04] <trekdanne> booya: you should be able to install azureus from the K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs
[02:05] <booya> source.zip , linux.tar.bz2 , wow
[02:05] <stdin> booya: like ubotu said, it's in the universe repository, install with adept
[02:05] <booya> it has it already there? :)
[02:05] <trekdanne> much better using adept to automatically download software rather than doing it manually
[02:05] <trekdanne> !repos
[02:05] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:06] <booya> on the way :)
[02:07] <booya> loading :)
[02:08] <dm> hello
[02:08] <trekdanne> hi
[02:08] <dm> I am user Kuduntu
[02:08] <dm>     
[02:09] <stdin> !ru
[02:09] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:09] <trekdanne> booya: if you don't like azureus it should probably be possible to get ktorrent up, but no need if you do like azureus :)
[02:09] <dm> azureus ?
[02:09] <dm> what is it ?
[02:10] <booya> trekdanne:  i`m not the person who should like something to use it :) if it works i dont need something else :)
[02:10] <booya> especially on something which i dont know how to use it as linux :)
[02:11] <zorglu_> dm: a bittorrent client http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
[02:11] <urilock> is azureus just for videos?
[02:11] <stdin> urilock: it's a bittorrent client
[02:11] <stdin> !torrent
[02:11] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[02:11] <zorglu_> urilock: there are 2 versions of azureus. 3.0 which is having the 'video stuff' and 2.5 which is the pure bittorrent
[02:12] <urilock> ah
[02:12] <urilock> thanks
[02:12] <urilock> i think i got azureus vuze or something
[02:15] <TheGateKeeper> how do you do a none interactive fsck?
[02:15] <urilock> how do i install window decorations? D:
[02:17] <stdin> TheGateKeeper: probably with the -p option
[02:18] <TheGateKeeper> thanks stdin
[02:20] <kaminix2> Any ideas as to why Kopete is so bad at connecting to MSN recently?
[02:21] <booya> stdin: when i want to put a file on another partition it says that i dont have enough priviledges
[02:21] <booya> what can i do
[02:21] <stdin> what type of partition/filesystem ?
[02:22] <booya> from media
[02:22] <booya> what was before D: and E:
[02:22] <Garmo> why is my Kubuntu booting into console instead of X?
[02:23] <stdin> booya: is it ntfs?
[02:23] <booya> yes
[02:23] <stdin> booya: have you installed ntfs write support (ntfs-3g) ?
[02:23] <booya> i guess not :)
[02:23] <stdin> Garmo: what graphics card?
[02:24] <stdin> !ntfs-3g | booya
[02:24] <ubotu> booya: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:24] <Garmo> geforce 2 something
[02:24] <stdin> Garmo: did you install the binary nvidia driver?
[02:24] <Garmo> no
[02:24] <stdin> Garmo: hmm, has it ever booted in to X before?
[02:25] <Garmo> no
[02:25] <stdin> haw did you install it? from the liveCD ?
[02:26] <Garmo> From livecd yes
[02:26] <stdin> hmm
[02:26] <Garmo> It's fairly fresh install
[02:27] <stdin> Garmo: try this in the terminal: 'sudo dpkg-recinfigure xserver-xorg' when it asks what driver, choose "nv"
[02:28] <urilock> i downloaded a window decoration and dont know how to use it
[02:28] <urilock> any suggestions?
[02:28] <stdin> Garmo: would help if i spelt that right "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:28] <kaminix2> reply-to-self: rm -dfvr ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete and restart of kopete solved problem. :p
[02:28] <Garmo> k, gonna try it in a moment
[02:28] <stdin> urilock: what one?
[02:30] <stdin> Garmo: after you do that, (write this down if it helps), do: "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" , if that still fails, do the 1st command again, but choose the "visa" driver, that should give you some basic graphics support and let you install the binary driver package
[02:31] <urilock> uhh
[02:31] <urilock> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/DarkLight?content=50106
[02:32] <stdin> urilock: that's an emerald theme
[02:32] <stdin> urilock: for use with beryl/emerald
[02:32] <urilock> oh?
[02:33] <urilock> should i be looking under deKorator
[02:33] <urilock> or native
[02:33] <stdin> urilock: under "Native KDE 3.2 +"
[02:33] <urilock> ok thanks
[02:39] <pruebes> Hi
[02:39] <dablitz> good morning channel
[02:39] <dablitz> is there anyone awake
[02:40] <pruebes> good morning dablitz
[02:40] <dablitz> i was wondering if I can get some help
[02:40] <Ace2016> Hi all
[02:40] <trekdanne> sure just ask
[02:42] <dablitz> I am running kubuntu feisty and want to use hg dvb drivers instead of the default kernel. I am using the apt-get source kernel for 2.6.20 and after building (clean build) and reboot I get kernel panic : VFS on mounted molume...what could that mean
[02:43] <stdin> dablitz: did you make an initramfs to go with the vmlinuz?
[02:43] <dablitz> no I used the command make-kpkg kernel_image
[02:43] <dablitz> i do not know how to make an initramfs
[02:43] <stdin> dablitz: also, I should mention, you don't need to recompile the whole kernel just to build a driver
[02:44] <dablitz> its the only way I know how
[02:44] <kgx> hey. this may be a noobish question, but is there anyway i can make gnome applications (in kde) access ssh folders? i'm guessing if i could mount fish, it could be done?
[02:44] <stdin> dablitz: can I see the page where you got the driver from, I'll take a look at it
[02:44] <dablitz> sure - linuxtv.org the mercurial drivers
[02:45] <stdin> kgx: gnome apps can't use fish (as it's a kde thing), gnome uses a thing called "gnome-vfs"
[02:45] <stdin> kgx: search for that in adept
[02:45] <kgx> stdin: thanks :)
[02:45] <Phoenix92x> hi, which channel would be best to ask about installing Dell Printer Drivers?
[02:47] <stdin> dablitz: did you see this guide http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/HOW_TO_Installing_DVB ?
[02:47] <dablitz> yes
[02:48] <Garmo> stdin did both nv and visa, no help
[02:49] <stdin> dablitz: did you follow that guide?
[02:49] <dablitz> no I followed the guide from www.hoochvdr.info
[02:50] <stdin> dablitz: that one should work much better, but you can try making an initramfs for your new kenel with "sudo update-initramfs -k (the kernel version you built) -c"
[02:51] <stdin> Garmo: dose the system have internet access ?
[02:51] <Garmo> yes
[02:51] <stdin> Garmo: ok, can you tell me what "uname -r" shows
[02:51] <dablitz> thanks stdin
[02:52] <Garmo> 2.6.20-15-generic
[02:53] <stdin> Garmo: ok, type this in: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic nvidia-glx
[02:53] <Phoenix92x> if anyone has any experience installing dell print drivers please let me know, my install keeps telling me I either don't have SANE installed, CUPS installed or Ghostscript installed, but which foo shows them. Install hangs at 98%, thanks
[02:54] <Garmo> installing
[02:55] <Garmo> stdin reboot now?
[02:55] <stdin> Garmo: now run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[02:56] <urilock> jeez im really bored...
[02:56] <Phoenix92x> man...I woke up at 5:30 or so after going to bed at 1:30, bigass clap of thunder woke me up and then I was...well....awake
[02:56] <Phoenix92x> I tried to make some iced tea for the caffeine and started putting ice in the tea kettle...lol
[02:57] <Garmo> stdin k
[02:57] <urilock> haha
[02:57] <Phoenix92x> after which I paused for a moment, "ahhh...the old needing caffeine before brewing caffeine paradox..."
[02:57] <stdin> Garmo: once that's done, try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' again
[02:58] <Garmo> ok
[02:58] <stdin> anything happen?
[02:58] <Phoenix92x> !printers
[02:58] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:59] <Garmo> noup
[02:59] <stdin> Garmo: can you post what "lspci | grep VGA" shows
[03:01] <BetaTester> Hi stdin :) How are you?
[03:01] <Garmo> 31:00:0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev a1)
[03:01] <stdin> ok BetaTester, enjoying my 3rd coffee :p
[03:02] <handy> !it
[03:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:03] <stdin> Garmo: ahh, you need the older driver. ok, do "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx" then "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy"
[03:03] <BetaTester> :),stdin you'd better lower the tempo
[03:04] <stdin> BetaTester: nah, I'm not that bad :)
[03:06] <Garmo> stdin next? :)
[03:06] <d3vdil> somebody can help me to install bochs
[03:06] <d3vdil> ?
[03:06] <stdin> Garmo: 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' again
[03:07] <stdin> d3vdil: install it with adept/apt
[03:07] <d3vdil> adept/apt?
[03:07] <Garmo> still nothing
[03:07] <stdin> d3vdil: either adept, or apt
[03:07] <d3vdil> sudo apt-get install bochs
[03:07] <stdin> yeah
[03:08] <Ace2016> sudo apt-get install synapticm then Alt+f2 kdesu synaptic, search and install
[03:08] <BetaTester> stdin, I have several installs of (k)ubuntu. If I do an apt-get upgrade I receive cups 1.2.2 (stock 1.2.0). However 1.2.2 is not listed anywhere?
[03:09] <mattie> hey all
[03:09] <stdin> BetaTester: that's because that
[03:09] <Ace2016> hi
[03:09] <eric__> hallo
[03:09] <d3vdil> I excute this command but " sudo apt-get install bochs " but no result
[03:09] <stdin> BetaTester: opps. that's because that's the latest
[03:09] <BetaTester> stdin, good point but I want to ugprade only cupsys How do I do this?
[03:10] <BetaTester> stdin, apt-get install cupsys says 1.2.0 i the lateest prior to upgrade
[03:10] <eric__> iemand verstand van klear of linuxmce
[03:10] <SlimeyPe1e> d3vdil: make sure you have universe enabled
[03:10] <stdin> !nl | eric__
[03:10] <ubotu> eric__: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[03:11] <eric__> bedankt ga ik daar eens kijken
[03:11] <BetaTester> stdin, any idea how to upgrade only cupsys? (I have all repos enabled in sources.list)
[03:11] <stdin> BetaTester: that is the latest version in the repos then
[03:12] <stdin> BetaTester: what version of (k)kubuntu ?
[03:12] <BetaTester> stdin, 6.06.1 LTS 1. If I do apt-get install cupsys it says 1.2.0 is the lates 2. If I do apt-get upgrade it upgrades cups to 1.2.2 + all the rest which is not necessary
[03:13] <stdin> Garmo: can you run "sudo apt-get install curl", then "wget http://stdin.pastebin.us/?dl=38889 -O nopaste" and "chmod +x nopaste"
[03:14] <urilock> !games
[03:14] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:15] <d3vdil> SlimeyPe1e, you mean this line in source list
[03:15] <pag> BetaTester, iirc the specific package can be upgraded with "..upgrade packagename" in your case probably: "sudo apt-get upgrade cupsys"
[03:15] <stdin> BetaTester: hmm, try sudo aptitide install cupsys
[03:15] <d3vdil> deb-src
[03:15] <d3vdil> i del the # before the link
[03:15] <Garmo> I don't know if this helps but I was asked to run cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -E "(\(WW\)|\(EE\))" it gave me these errors (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable, (EE) xf860penSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom
[03:15] <SlimeyPe1e> d3vdil: no, not deb-src. The line should begin with "deb ".
[03:15] <BetaTester> pag apt-get upgrade cupsys upgrades everything :(
[03:16] <SlimeyPe1e> d3vdil: there is another line in there which just starts with "deb", you need to uncomment that too
[03:16] <stdin> Garmo: those errors wouldn't stop the server from starting
[03:16] <SlimeyPe1e> d3vdil: and then run "sudo apt-get update"
[03:16] <pag> BetaTester, everything or just the depencies of cupsys?
[03:16] <d3vdil> like that : deb http://.....ubuntu/ edgy universe
[03:16] <SlimeyPe1e> yeah
[03:16] <d3vdil> the two link
[03:17] <d3vdil> deb and deb-src
[03:17] <SlimeyPe1e> d3vdil: yep. Uncomment, save the file, and then run sudo apt-get update.
[03:17] <d3vdil> ok
[03:17] <SlimeyPe1e> then you should be able to install bochs.
[03:17] <BetaTester> pag I have about 70 packages in the list including OO, ssh, language packs, evolution
[03:17] <BetaTester> iptables... etc
[03:17] <viktor> excuse me, but how can i kill a running program that froze up?
[03:18] <BetaTester> firefox
[03:18] <Garmo> stdin did that
[03:18] <BetaTester> many not related to cupsys :(, pag
[03:18] <SlimeyPe1e> viktor: killall -9 <program name>.   e.g.: killall-9 firefox-bin    will kill firefox.
[03:18] <viktor> thanks ill try it
[03:19] <stdin> Garmo: ok, now do ' ./nopaste /etc/X11/xorg.conf  '
[03:19] <d3vdil> you should do an update after i can install bochs :)
[03:19] <viktor> nice, it worked thanks
[03:19] <SlimeyPe1e> viktor: no problem
[03:19] <stdin> viktor: you can use "xkill" too, just run "xkill" and click the window (for GUIs)
[03:19] <pag> BetaTester, my last guess: " sudo apt-get install cupsys:2.0.2 " (if 2.0.2 is the correct version)
[03:20] <viktor> sweet, thanks stdin
[03:20] <BetaTester> thanks for the help pag ,but I cannot see the package listed...However full upgrade installs it :(
[03:21] <d3vdil> thanks all :) SlimeyPe1e, stdin ...
[03:21] <pag> BetaTester, ok. Sorry I couldn't help.
[03:21] <SlimeyPe1e> no problem d3vdil :)
[03:21] <BetaTester> np, pag
[03:21] <stdin> BetaTester: any reason you don't want it to just upgrade all packages?
[03:22] <nico__> excuse me, anyone know how to configure grub so it load Windows Vista?
[03:22] <stdin> Garmo: it should give you a URL back, post that here
[03:22] <BetaTester> :D , pretty good stdin, I have a tightvnc terminal. If I do a complete upgrade I receive an unpleasant ksplash problem, which I could not analyze enought to determine the source. I had to stop kspash
[03:23] <BetaTester> stdin, *ksplash
[03:23] <Garmo> stdin after that it gave me these two lines: .nopaste: line1: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline' | ./nopaste: line 1 `<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso8859-1"?>
[03:23] <stdin> BetaTester: does "apt-cache policy cupsys" show that there is a newer version available ?
[03:24] <urilock> bored people: whats your favourite game you play on your kubuntu?
[03:24] <stdin> Garmo: hmm ok, 1 sec
[03:25] <BetaTester> stdin, it says Installed: 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06   Candidate: 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06
[03:25] <BetaTester> stdin however cupsys is still 1.2.0 I have not upgraded yet
[03:25] <rajkalyan> hi everuone
[03:25] <stdin> BetaTester: it says you have
[03:25] <rajkalyan> i need help setting up my trendnet tew421pc
[03:26] <BetaTester> stdin, I canceled the long upgrade...Strange it did install in 30 seconds :|
[03:27] <rajkalyan> :-?
[03:28] <rajkalyan> (gb)
[03:28] <stdin> Garmo: ok, try "rm nopaste && wget http://stdin.110mb.com/nopaste.txt && mv nopaste.txt nopaste"
[03:28] <rajkalyan> i need help setting up ym wireless card
[03:29] <vlt> Hello. Wich packages do I need to let k3b burn audio cds from mp3 files? I installed libxine-extracodecs and libmad0 but k3b still complains ...
[03:29] <stdin> vlt: libk3b2-mp3
[03:30] <BetaTester> stdin, thanks for the help
[03:30] <vlt> stdin: Thank you.
[03:30] <stdin> BetaTester: how do you know cupsys is still on the old version?
[03:30] <Garmo> stdin it says "nopaste.txt" saved
[03:31] <stdin> Garmo: now do "chmod +x nopaste" and ' ./nopaste /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ' again
[03:31] <BetaTester> stdin, It is 1.2.2 This happened after I issued "sudo aptitide install cupsys" It was the same list as if I did apt-get upgrade but maybe cupsys installed in the first 30 seconds before I cancel it
[03:32] <stdin> oh, ok :p
[03:32] <BetaTester> stdin, do you know someone very good at GS? I need to ask some things that are beyond my knowledge.
[03:33] <stdin> BetaTester: try #ghostscript ?
[03:34] <shadowhywind> does anyone know what the boot option pci=conf1 does?
[03:34] <BetaTester> stdin, I have some specific problems with 7 Konica Minolta printers. I guess this might be a wrapper problem but I found a workaround with GS. I have tried #ghostscript several times but the result resembles #cups :D
[03:34] <Garmo> stdin http://stdin.pastebin.us/?dl=38891
[03:35] <stdin> BetaTester: ahh, I don't know anyone in particular that's good with GS (and I know I'm not)
[03:36] <BetaTester> stdin, ok I will dig myself a little more to see what happens
[03:38] <stdin> Garmo: hmm, ok, do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and move to the line with "Driver   "nvidia" "
[03:38] <frax> anyone know how to fix settings with xserver-xorg-video-intel that gives huge fontsize?
[03:39] <stdin> frax: gutsy?
[03:39] <frax> yeah
[03:39] <ubuntu> hi when i boot my system i getto grub error 17 any quick ideas
[03:39] <stdin> frax: #ubuntu+1
[03:39] <frax> ok ty.
[03:40] <ubuntu> i am using the live cd now
[03:41] <stdin> ubuntu: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:41] <Garmo> stdin found it
[03:41] <ubuntu> but i more likelz think that someone in my house delete one partition with ubuntu on it, XP is still on it
[03:42] <administrator> Ciao
[03:42] <administrator> c' qualche italiano?
[03:43] <stdin> Garmo: ok, under that line, put press tab and put "BusID" then press tab again and put: "PCI:31:00:0"
[03:43] <stdin> !it | administrator
[03:43] <ubotu> administrator: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:43] <stdin> Garmo: put "PCI:31:00:0" in quotes, but not BusID
[03:45] <Garmo> ok
[03:46] <stdin> Garmo: then save with Ctrl-o and exit with Ctrl-x
[03:46] <stdin> Garmo: then do ' ./nopaste /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ' again, so I can see it
[03:49] <dablitz> ok got my kernel up and running
[03:49] <Garmo> stdin http://stdin.pastebin.us/?dl=38892
[03:49] <dablitz> but I lost the ability to mount smb drives
[03:49] <dablitz> stdin: do you know what would cause the ability to loose samb mounts
[03:49] <Garmo> stdin there's a typo :)
[03:49] <Garmo> I'll fix it
[03:49] <stdin> Garmo: yeah, change the . to a :
[03:50] <stdin> dablitz: how are you mounting them?
[03:51] <Garmo> ye
[03:52] <stdin> Garmo: once that's done, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:52] <dablitz> mount -t smbfs -o username=xxxxxx,password=xxxxxxxx,rw //<ip address><share> /<local folder>
[03:52] <stdin> dablitz: and what's the error ?
[03:53] <AloBlumenau> I'm having problem with samba
[03:53] <AloBlumenau> the problem is: I have tree accounts shared with samba, all using same conf... when I login using windows, the first one ask for password, I provided, and the access is granted. When I accesss \\localhost\seconduser, it didn't ask for password, show me the folder but I don't have write permissions, even read permission
[03:54] <BetaTester> stdin, can you take a look at this: www.niti95.com/temp/sample.txt
[03:54] <BetaTester> stdin, I upgraded :( ksplash i telling me this. The virtual session is working but this could be a problem I guess
[03:55] <dablitz> 3810: Connection to 192.168.xxx.xx failed
[03:55] <stdin> BetaTester: I don't develop ksplash, so I can't read the backtrace. you'd have to attach it to a bug report
[03:55] <Garmo> stdin still nothing
[03:55] <BetaTester> ok, stdin
[03:56] <stdin> Garmo: ok, ' ./nopaste /var/log/Xorg.0.log '
[03:56] <stdin> dablitz: was it working with another kernel?
[03:56] <dablitz> yes
[03:57] <Garmo> stdin http://stdin.pastebin.us/?dl=38893
[03:58] <stdin> Garmo: ok, edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file again, but change "31:00:0" to "1:00:0"
[03:59] <stdin> dablitz: it may be the kernel support for smb isn't working in that one then
[03:59] <stdin> dablitz: you can try by "sudo modprobe smbfs" maybe
[04:03] <Garmo> stdin still same problem :)
[04:04] <stdin> Garmo: ' ./nopaste /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' again please
[04:05] <Garmo> stdin http://stdin.pastebin.us/?dl=38894
[04:07] <Assid> yoza
[04:08] <stdin> Garmo: anything on tty7?
[04:09] <Garmo> no
[04:12] <Garmo> well, maybe I'll just reinstall it :)
[04:12] <stdin> Garmo: do, 'sudo dpkg-reconfgiure -phigh xserver-xorg" and choose medium when setting the monitor option, then choose 1024x768@60 (or whatever the max option for your monitor is)
[04:13] <stdin> looking at the log, it seem the sync frequencies are out of range
[04:14] <Garmo> ok
[04:14] <Garmo> I'll try
[04:16] <d3vdil> plz how can i resolve this problem
[04:17] <d3vdil> when i excute this command
[04:17] <d3vdil> i get error on
[04:17] <d3vdil> ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[04:17] <stdin> what's the full error?
[04:17] <d3vdil> sudo apt-get update
[04:18] <d3vdil> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[04:18] <stdin> d3vdil: try changing the mirror (for now)
[04:18] <d3vdil> Err http://.....ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[04:19] <stdin> d3vdil: the problem will go away eventually, but it's to do with the server, not you
[04:19] <seishinbyou> $B$3$s$P$s$o(B
[04:19] <khaije1> so how do i access a usb stick as a device w/o having the fs mounted?
[04:19] <Garmo> stdin no help
[04:19] <d3vdil> ok i will chan source list
[04:20] <khaije1> i need to do partition ops on a flash chip and the fact that it's mounted is blocking
[04:20] <stdin> khaije1: unmount it
[04:21] <khaije1> stdin: it's not accessible at all when i do that, do you know what i mean it seems like a cache 22
[04:21] <stdin> Garmo: hmm, I'm a bit lost then, I don't have an nvidia card to even try it on
[04:21] <Garmo> no problem
[04:21] <Garmo> thanks for the help anyway :)
[04:21] <stdin> khaije1: no, not "safely remove" just unomunt, something like "pumount /media/disk"
[04:22] <khaije1> stdin: yr a wealth of knowledge, thank you
[04:23] <stdin> Garmo: you could try copping the /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the liveCD session to the disk and using that
[04:23] <stdin> khaije1: :)
[04:23] <PP188> hi, someone know why my notebook when run standy by mode it show a screen red and stop... sorry my english..
[04:24] <stdin> PP188: there is a #ubuntu-br (and #ubuntu-pt ) if you want
[04:24] <seishinbyou> Is there any software that allows editing/writing of dBase III/IV files?  I know dbview can display the contents, but I need to run dBase programs
[04:25] <PP188> stdin: but they couldnt help me
[04:26] <khaije1> stdin: not only did that work, but it filled an annoying absence in my knowledge!!!
[04:27] <stdin> khaije1: heh, no problem :)
[04:28] <seishinbyou> What is Japanese language channel
[04:28] <stdin> !jp
[04:28] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[04:32] <miles_> hello?
[04:32] <trekdanne> yes ?
[04:34] <miles_> sorry i was testing something
[04:34] <miles_> wanted to make sure i was online
[04:34] <seishinbyou> Is there any reason why skim would just stop converting text in things like firefox?
[04:36] <martijn81> miles_: ping a host then
[04:36] <elite101> hey i have Kubuntu i386 and there is a firefox that is i686 are they the same? x86 prossecor?
[04:37] <elite101> or is it 64bit?
[04:37] <trekdanne> seishinbyou: actually no. :) are you sure you got the right mode set up and active
[04:37] <stdin> elite101: get firefox from adept
[04:37] <trekdanne> elite101: i686 is pentium and later
[04:38] <SlimeyPe1e> elite101: i686 is 32-bit, as is i386.
[04:38] <elite101> okay well i have pentium 3 551Mhz will that work
[04:38] <elite101> firefox from adept is only version 1.5
[04:38] <seishinbyou> I installed in Japanese and many applications work fine, but Firefox and Openoffice sometimes stop converting characters
[04:38] <seishinbyou> leave only blank spaces, but I can get it if I try converting the same thing over and over again
[04:38] <SlimeyPe1e> elite101: yeah it'll work
[04:38] <stdin> elite101: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:38] <SlimeyPe1e> elite101: version 2.0 is available for the latest release of Kubuntu (Feisty)
[04:39] <elite101> yeah u c i have kubuntu 6.06.1 lts Dapper
[04:39] <elite101> will it still work? the 2.0 firefox?
[04:40] <SlimeyPe1e> elite101: yes, if you follow the link that stdin gave you
[04:40] <stdin> elite101: if you follow the guide I gave you it should
[04:40] <elite101> okay
[04:40] <elite101> but he said (feisty) so i didnt think it would apply to me
[04:40] <SlimeyPe1e> elite101: no, I said feisty :)
[04:41] <miles_> gutsy gibbon is weaksauce
[04:41] <SlimeyPe1e> elite101: it's only installed by default in Feisty and Edgy but if you follow that tutorial you can make it work in Dapper
[04:41] <trekdanne> seishinbyou: strange. i'd never any problems with skim and anthy, maybe people in #ubuntu-jp know more about this
[04:41] <elite101> okay
[04:42] <elite101> i can use windows firefox 2.0 but its very slow thou
[04:42] <elite101> this way i can get shockwave working but i had to do a re-install i messed up something
[04:42] <seishinbyou> I wonder if it is somewhat common problem.  This happens on others computers too sometimes
[04:42] <seishinbyou> I can search though.  Thank you
[04:44] <elite101> if i get a "vista" theme for KDE will i need alot of ram? should 292mb work for it?
[04:44] <stdin> elite101: it's just a theme, not actually vista
[04:45] <zlz> hello everybody, do you expect KDE4 ?
[04:46] <trekdanne> late october i think
[04:50] <SeanTater> I just wrote some DVDs in my DVD recorder, but when I set them into my computer, it says "no medium found". Why?
[04:52] <voln> hello how can I mount cdrom in Kubuntu.
[04:52] <SeanTater> I even tried it with and without the disks finalized..
[04:53] <SeanTater> voln: In most cases it will have a popup telling you than you can view it "In a new window". did you not get a popup for that?
[04:53] <elite101> hey does "Klipboard" copy key strokes? and logs them? or only ones u copy and paste?
[04:53] <voln> Not new window
[04:54] <trekdanne> elite101: only copy&paste
[04:54] <Assid> stupid mozilla
[04:54] <voln> Only emty directory cdrom
[04:54] <Assid> eating all my ram
[04:54] <seishinbyou> mozilla does that
[04:55] <Assid> actually not all .. say 1/3rd of my usage is mozilla
[04:55] <trekdanne> yea, better to stick with konqueror :P
[04:55] <Assid> 383mb used
[04:55] <Assid> trekdanne: has issues opening some sites
[04:55] <elite101> konqueror load faster than mozilla
[04:55] <Assid> well thats cause its part of the initial load
[04:55] <trekdanne> how much memory do you have assid?
[04:55] <elite101> my opinion
[04:55] <Assid> konqueror does the same thing as explorer on windows.. integrate to the desktop
[04:55] <Assid> trekdanne: ALOT!
[04:55] <Assid> 1.5GB :P
[04:56] <elite101> not alot?
[04:56] <seishinbyou> sometimes lynx is enough for me
[04:56] <seishinbyou> when I don't want all the pretty pictures
[04:56] <elite101> i have a 1tb of ram
[04:56] <Assid> 1TB ram ?
[04:56] <elite101> ;)
[04:56] <Assid> nice !
[04:56] <trekdanne> hehe
[04:56] <elite101> i wish lol
[04:56] <Assid> didnt know thats even possible
[04:56] <elite101> well u can make a 1tb HDD of a swap partition but its not "ram"
[04:56] <Assid> maybe by the time we reach star day 20432001
[04:57] <trekdanne> yea lynx is nice but more often than not you need images to navigate the site
[04:57] <elite101> lol well there is now 8gb ram and 16gb
[04:57] <Assid> yeah
[04:57] <stdin> Assid: it is possible
[04:57] <bipolar> I have a server with 16GB of ram
[04:57] <Assid> well.. i got tons of space left
[04:57] <bipolar> But it has 8 cores too ;P
[04:57] <seishinbyou> maybe rig something with aalib and elinks to emulate ascii representations of graphics?
[04:57] <Assid> and stupid mozilla 2 is just slow
[04:57] <elite101> lol i would use ur server as a normal PC
[04:57] <elite101> 8cores
[04:57] <Assid> im thinking of downgrading back to 1 atleast for thunderbird
[04:58] <trekdanne> seishinbyou: maybe a little overkill
[04:58] <seishinbyou> but that is half the fun
[04:58] <elite101> well i was going to make a cluster but its with "red hat" i dont know how to use that Distro and it wouldnt been much for me to have a fast computer but with a Distro i dont use? will Kubuntu work for clusters?
[04:59] <Assid> im gonna be buying a quad core, was actually gonna buy it already.. but decided might wait it out till the penryns
[04:59] <stdin> Assid: 64bit system can use up to 16 exabytes of RAM
[04:59] <elite101> there is a tut. on using "Red Hat" because its easy'r
[04:59] <trekdanne> elite101: cluster = mosix??
[04:59] <stdin> (17,179,869,184 gigabytes)
[04:59] <Assid> stdin: theoretically.. you got a mobo pushing that?
[04:59] <elite101> whats that?
[04:59] <trekdanne> elite101: some cluster tool
[04:59] <elite101> i c
[04:59] <stdin> Assid: I didn't say I had it, just said it's possible to use 1TB
[05:00] <elite101> well im very new but i have read on how to use "redhat" in a cluster but i would really wanna use kubuntu
[05:00] <trekdanne> i did have a cluster set up with slack back in the days...
[05:00] <MaTiAz> How do I get rid of the mouse middle button acting as paste?
[05:00] <elite101> but maybe i can set-up the Slave "nodes" with red-hat and connect to them with kubuntu?
[05:01] <elite101> lol i wish i had that^?
[05:01] <elite101> lol i do
[05:01] <MaTiAz> I want to use it to scroll faster than the scroll itself but it just pastes, and I hate it
[05:01] <elite101> lol i did not know u can paste with the scroll button? that cool
[05:01] <Riddell> elite101: Kubuntu does have redhat-cluster-suite
[05:01] <elite101> mhm
[05:01] <trekdanne> standard X11-copy
[05:02] <trekdanne> reshat-cluster-suit? is that based on Mosix?
[05:02] <elite101> well my cluster will only consist of 5 pentium3's 550Mhz
[05:02] <elite101> not for a server just for myself
[05:02] <elite101> lol
[05:02] <SeanTater> voln: still here?
[05:03] <voln> yes
[05:03] <elite101> well if i add ram to all of them will it all add up like the prossecor power from all computers into one and all ram too? i read that they only explain about the prossec power?
[05:03] <SeanTater> voln: pastebin the output of this command : mount
[05:03] <trekdanne> elite101: it does not scale that well unfortunately...
[05:04] <elite101> ahh
[05:04] <gandimere> hello anyone have a minute to help me out with an install problem ?
[05:04] <trekdanne> gandimere: sure, just ask
[05:04] <elite101> but what is better More Ram or More CPU power?
[05:04] <voln> sudo mount media/cdrom0?
[05:04] <trekdanne> elite101: depends on the task
[05:04] <elite101> mhmm
[05:05] <trekdanne> elite101: compiling requires lots of both. maybe that's why distcc is so popular :P
[05:05] <elite101> i noticed for older computer i need more RAM like a gig wich i will get but its only set at like 500mb/ps cuz i only have SD
[05:05] <elite101> SD ram is slower than DDR
[05:05] <SeanTater> voln: mount without options will tell you what is mounted. To mount that cdrom, do: mount /dev/hdc OR mount /media/cdrom0
[05:05] <elite101> obv.
[05:05] <karthikp> I have a question about using the bluetooth OBEX client in Kubuntu 7.04
[05:05] <jhutchins> distcc works because there are a lot of seperate tasks that don't depend on preceeding tasks, so a lot of processing can be done in parallel.
[05:05] <gandimere> I am trying to install kubuntu on a system and the mouse does not operate correctly  but I can put on a windows os an it works fine any suggestions ? I am installing from a kubuntu cd ver 6.06 lts....
[05:05] <karthikp> Can someone help me with that?
[05:06] <stdin> gandimere: have you tried with a more recent version?
[05:06] <elite101> lol
[05:06] <elite101> really
[05:06] <jhutchins> gandimere: Might help if we knew what the mouse was.
[05:06] <elite101> Microsoft Serial mouse*
[05:06] <elite101> ;P
[05:06] <ivcircolo> ciao
[05:07] <gandimere> compaq ps2 mouse
[05:07] <patryko> Siema
[05:07] <gandimere> I dont have a more recent version
[05:07] <ivcircolo> ragazzi, ho un problema con samba
[05:07] <jhutchins> gandimere: Does gdm work?
[05:07] <voln> voln@voln-laptop:~$ mount/media/cdrom0
[05:07] <voln> bash: mount/media/cdrom0: No such file or directory
[05:07] <gandimere> system is set up on a kvm
[05:07] <ivcircolo> mi da errore nt_status_access_denied
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> odd. ive had no issues with my ps2 mice. You may want to google for some example xorg.conf files that use ps2 mice.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> ahh a a kvm! ... that can be an issue.
[05:08] <jhutchins> !es | ivcircolo
[05:08] <ubotu> ivcircolo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:08] <stdin> voln: add a space after mount
[05:09] <ivcircolo> no espagnol italian
[05:09] <gandimere> this is my first install of kubuntu so I am a neophyte concerning this os
[05:09] <jhutchins> ivcircolo: sorry.
[05:09] <jhutchins> !it | ivcircolo
[05:09] <ubotu> ivcircolo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:09] <booya> anyone knows what i have to setup if i have 5.1 audio system to be able to hear 5.1 ?
[05:09] <booya> :)
[05:09] <ivcircolo> ok
[05:09] <SeanTater> voln: It's not all one word. place a space between the t in mount and the / in /media/cdrom0
[05:10] <gandimere> so how do I proceed to correct this problem ?
[05:10] <jhutchins> gandimere: Sorry, I need coffee.  You need to look through the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and see what the possibilities for mouse settings are.
[05:10] <voln> seanTater, thanks works
[05:11] <gandimere> I cant even get to install before i have an issue  are you saying to install and then config the mouse?
[05:12] <trekdanne> gandimere: go to console mode Ctr-Alt-F2
[05:12] <ivcircolo> anyone know error connection to host win "nt_status_access_denied" with samba???
[05:13] <trekdanne> gandimere: and figure out if anything's wrong with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> gandimere,  i recall kvm issues with the devices, when the kvm is not set to be on the linux box. when it powers up.
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> with that Syngery program, i dont even want to use kvms any more. :)
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> !find syngery
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> if i can spell it right
[05:14] <ubotu> Package/file syngery does not exist in feisty
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> !find synegry
[05:14] <ubotu> Package/file synegry does not exist in feisty
[05:14] <gandimere> hmm okay ill look into the kvm as well thanks
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Synergy lets you easily share a single mouse and keyboard between multiple computers with different operating systems, each with its own display, without special hardware. It's intended for users with multiple computers on their desk since each system uses its own monitor(s).
[05:15] <karthikp> I have a problem transfering files over bluetooth on Feisty.
[05:15] <karthikp> The transfer works only one way (from phone to comp) and not the other.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> gandimere,  as a test dont use the kvm and see how well it works.
[05:15] <ivcircolo> everyone have an idea on samba error ???
[05:16] <karthikp> Chiefly, this is because the OBEX client can't seem (ever) to find the phone, even though it's discoverable and it's awaiting file transfer from the comp...
[05:16] <gandimere> I will try that as well
[05:16] <karthikp> Has anyone used bluetooth file transfer on a Kubuntu laptop successfully?
[05:17] <gandimere> well i am off thank you dr_willis ill probably be back :-$
[05:18] <karthikp> Bluetooth, anyone?
[05:18] <voln> then how can i unmout?
[05:18] <booya> anyone knows how can i make my system 5.1 audio to work on 5.1 and not on 2 channels only ? :)
[05:19] <karthikp> bump...
[05:20] <alexandros> hey!!
[05:20] <BluesKaj> booya, check in kmix/switches/channel mode/dropdown
[05:20] <stdin> karthikp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup ?
[05:20] <booya> BluesKaj:  and where is that located? :)
[05:20] <karthikp> Thanks..
[05:20] <alexandros> I finally manages to net boot using ubunto netboot
[05:20] <alexandros> managed
[05:20] <booya> ah
[05:20] <karthikp> Will read and return (hopefully not...)
[05:20] <alexandros> but if I continue with install it will just go on and install ubuntu, not kubuntu
[05:21] <alexandros> what should I do after that?
[05:21] <karthikp> Ooh, I've been there.
[05:21] <ksivaji> karthikp are you indian
[05:21] <karthikp> When I make it connect from the CLI, it disconnects after like five seconds.
[05:21] <BluesKaj> booya, click on the speaker icon in the panel
[05:21] <ksivaji> BluesKaj hi
[05:22] <booya> BluesKaj:  found it
[05:22] <booya> but no change :(
[05:22] <stdin> alexandros: you can install kubuntu-desktop then apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop (if that doesn't work www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde )
[05:22] <BluesKaj> alexandros , after installing ubuntu , install kubuntu-desktop
[05:22] <ksivaji> stdin hi
[05:23] <stdin> hey :)
[05:23] <BluesKaj> hi ksivaji
[05:23] <BluesKaj> booya, you may need to reboot
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> i just leave all the whatever-desktops installed
[05:25] <lesik> !ubuntu
[05:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[05:25] <lesik> 
[05:25] <lesik> 
[05:25] <booya> BluesKaj:  okey
[05:25] <booya> i will be back :D
[05:25] <lesik> (
[05:25] <lesik> 
[05:25] <lesik> 
[05:26] <endi> I think my internet is utter crap..
[05:26] <stdin> lesik: you know the channel #ubuntu-ru
[05:26] <Assid> there is professional support?
[05:26] <karthikp> Okay, I need someway of making my laptop not drop the bluetooth connection to my phone.
[05:26] <BluesKaj> !ru | lesik
[05:26] <ubotu> lesik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:26] <karthikp> hidd --connect works, but just for a sec or so.
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[05:26] <karthikp> Then, the connection is dropped.
[05:27] <alexandros> stdin: oh and its gonna be exactly as if I've installed it from the kubuntu CD?
[05:28] <stdin> alexandros: yeah
[05:28] <alexandros> awesome dude!!
[05:31] <Pazy> How do you install grub on windows XP hard drive? Right now its on my second hdd (linux) but to boot linux I need to use boot menu then grub. Is there some simple intructions or a guide somewhere?
[05:32] <trekdanne> Pazy: install grub to MBR?
[05:33] <Pazy> How do I do that?
[05:33] <Pazy> On a side note where is mbr? Is it on motherboard or main hdd?
[05:33] <trekdanne> Pazy: it's the first second on the first hdd IIRC
[05:34] <Pazy> Say that in english please lol
[05:34] <trekdanne> Pazy: pressume you have you're /boot/menu.1st setup correctly you would run something like "grub-install"
[05:35] <trekdanne> /boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:35] <Pazy> And will win Xp (when I reinstall) right over that? (on MBR) I assume so
[05:36] <trekdanne> yes Windows happily overwrite the MBR without prompting
[05:36] <Pazy> I cant make head nor tail of what grub-install spat out
[05:36] <stdin> trekdanne: you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:36] <trekdanne> yea that's right
[05:37] <stdin> Pazy: something like "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" (if /dev/hda is the disk you want grub installed on)
[05:38] <genii> Pazy: Avoid at all times to install grub to a subpartition of a drive
[05:38] <Pazy> I have no idea where I want it installed to tbh. Because ive just used Ubuntu live CD to erase and reformat the drive Kubunt isnt detecting them right. Still thinks its old partitions (which it wont let me access). Maybe id be better doing this after the reinstall.
[05:39] <zaraza> hi, I just installed Kubuntu, but I can't boot
[05:39] <zaraza> every time I boot, I get the message "Invalid Compressed Format (error=2)"
[05:39] <zaraza> how can I fix it?
[05:39] <zaraza> I'm from the Live CD now
[05:39] <booya> stdin:  still here? :)
[05:39] <stdin> huh, yeah
[05:40] <yukino> hola
[05:40] <yukino> ayud20
[05:40] <yukino> de ubuntu en espaol
[05:40] <stdin> !es | yukino
[05:40] <ubotu> yukino: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:40] <BluesKaj> Pazy , can you DL and burn a disk ?
[05:40] <Pazy> Of what?
[05:40] <yukino> who is ubotu? is a person?
[05:40] <Pazy> ubotu is a bot i beleive
[05:41] <stdin> !bot
[05:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:41] <Pazy> I knew I was right :D
[05:41] <zaraza> any idea on how to solve the "invalid compressed format (error=2)" on boot?
[05:41] <stdin> zaraza: post what "sudo fdisk -l" shows to pastebin (link to pastebin is in the topic)
[05:42] <BluesKaj> if so try to burn supergrub disk, Pazy ...it'll help you either fix grub , or boot directly into kubuntu so you can edit the grubmenu lst file
[05:43] <zaraza> ok, here I pasted what fdisk -l looks like --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33709/
[05:43] <Pazy> Got one of them disks already
[05:44] <booya> stdin: i`ve managed to solve the problem :) thanks :)
[05:44] <stdin> zaraza: which partition is your root (or boot) partition?
[05:44] <zaraza>  /dev/hda1
[05:44] <Pazy> Im in Kubuntu btw, I can access it fine but I need to use the boot menu thing (F8 on first screen while im booting) and choose linux HDD then Kubuntu option. Grub itself is fine, as long as I can copy it to windows/first boot HDD im fine.
[05:44] <Pazy> back in a min, chores.
[05:46] <stdin> zaraza: try "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" then do "sudo -i" then "chroot /mnt", once in there try "update-initramfs -k all -u"
[05:48] <[ifroog] > hi
[05:49] <zaraza> stdin: that should be all? now I should reboot?
[05:51] <stdin> zaraza: it doesn't have to be "all" but no harm in it, once it's done type "exit" a couple time until you're back to "ubuntu@ubuntu" then "sudo umount /mnt" then reboot
[05:51] <BluesKaj> Pazy, then supergrub disk will restore your windows MBR if that's what your prob is .
[05:51] <zaraza> stdin: ok, thanks
[05:52] <m477> hello how can i upg python-gtk2 and python-glade2
[05:52] <david__> hello
[05:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> good morning campers!  sleep well? i did!
[05:53] <stdin> m477: use adept to do a full upgrade
[05:54] <m477> stdin: but what is the command ?
[05:54] <BluesKaj> yup Daisuke_Laptop, I did too :)
[05:54] <stdin> m477: full upgrade in adept is equivalent to "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:55] <m477> stdin: i got error it told me that i need to repair that
[05:55] <stdin> m477: post it to pastebin
[05:56] <jussi01> hmmm, how do i download a package and all it dependent packages easily...??
[05:56] <Pazy> back
[05:56] <vincent> ...
[05:56] <m477> stdin: what do you mean ?
[05:56] <jussi01> without installing them...
[05:56] <Pazy> My problem isnt the Windows MBR, its that Windows is my first hard drive and what gets booted first. So I want Grub there instead of my second hdd (which has linux).
[05:57] <stdin> jussi01: apt-get --download-only install foo
[05:57] <stdin> m477: post the error to the pastebin site
[05:57] <vincent> 
[05:57] <patricio> oies
[05:58] <BluesKaj> jussi01, I've heard that using "aptitude" is supposed to bring all dependencies required with a pkg ...dunno for sure cuz i've found apt-get seems to find the right pkgs, in some situations when installing pkgs
[05:58] <m477> stdin: i think i repaird that
[05:58] <jussi01> hmm, I need build-essential
[05:59] <BluesKaj> sometimes aptitude doesn't find the righr pkges so it doesn't install , where apt will
[05:59] <stdin> jussi01: that's on the install cd
[05:59] <SeicherlBoB> i have installed kmilo but i can't find the "button" in the systemsettings. do i have to config someting to get it up and running?
[05:59] <BluesKaj> bbl
[06:00] <Pazy> So can someone help me?
[06:00] <stdin> SeicherlBoB: tried running "kmilo" ?
[06:00] <jussi01> stdin: are tyou certain?
[06:00] <stdin> jussi01: yep
[06:00] <SeicherlBoB> stdin: there's no programm like that
[06:00] <jussi01> hmmm, well that certainly makes things easier...
[06:01] <stdin> jussi01: put the CD in, "sudo apt-cdrom add && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential" should do the job
[06:02] <stdin> SeicherlBoB: hmm, try looking in "kcontrol"
[06:03] <jussi01> stdin: thanks, its for my brother so he can compile the drivers for his usb modem... ;)
[06:04] <stdin> jussi01: no problem :)
[06:04] <Pazy> How do I find out what my second HDD is mounted as?
[06:04] <stdin> jussi01: if he needs other packages, the "--print-uris" option to apt-get is nice :)
[06:05] <stdin> Pazy: type "mount"
[06:05] <urilock> hey!
[06:05] <SeicherlBoB> stdin: ok, there is nothing about kmilo or thinkpad
[06:06] <Pazy> Looks like its mounting as 2 partitions not 1 hdd. I need to know what to put so I can write to its boot sector thing
[06:06] <zaraza> well, still the same problem, the system will not boot
[06:06] <zaraza> error says : invalid compressed format (err=2) system halted
[06:06] <compilerwriter> How do I mount a blasted thumb drive.  It has been so long since I have had to do this
[06:06] <Pazy> USB thumb drive? Mine auto mounts. Never needed to change anything
[06:07] <compilerwriter> Yes Pazy It did not show up on my desktop when I plugged it in.  Perhaps it is mounted but not showing an icon
[06:08] <Pazy> I get that as well tbh, but its always in the media bit
[06:11] <compilerwriter> I need to mount the thing manually as it did not show up in the dialog of places to store when I went to store the file.
[06:11] <stdin> zaraza: is that with a thinkpad?
[06:12] <compilerwriter> !thumb drive
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thumb drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <stdin> compilerwriter: if you know the device node "pmount /dev/sd?? Name"
[06:12] <compilerwriter> stdin I don't know the device node.
[06:12] <stdin> compilerwriter: if you do not know the device node, look in "dmesg | tail" for it
[06:14] <ivcircolo> NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED on share windows:  have anyone an idea ???
[06:14] <Pazy> I cant seem to get the fdisk command to work
[06:15] <compilerwriter> stdin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33711/
[06:15] <compilerwriter> stdin doesn't seem to be there.
[06:15] <BluesKaj> !usb drive
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <stdin> compilerwriter: try removing the device, then plugging it back in, then repeat the command
[06:17] <ivcircolo> samba error: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED on share windows:  have anyone an idea ???
[06:17] <Pazy> Im cant get grub to install to WinXP HDD's Mbr, i used fdisk to find out what the hdd is called then used sudo grub-install /dev/hda and it said it has no corrosponding BIOS drive
[06:17] <llutz> ivcircolo: check your users
[06:17] <Pazy> */dev/sdb
[06:17] <stdin> ivcircolo: have you looked at the samba documentation at all?
[06:17] <TooEarly> i've been using tovid to burn dvds and i'm using -vbitrate but it always comes out as a pretty crappy dvd. is there any linux program that auto-fits the dvd to the best quality?
[06:18] <ivcircolo> llutz: yes
[06:18] <zaraza> what if I just copy the initrd and vmlinuz from the CD to the boot hard disk?
[06:18] <zaraza> will it work? I mean, I can't boot the machine :(
[06:18] <stdin> zaraza: is that with a thinkpad?
[06:18] <ivcircolo> stdin: yes
[06:18] <zaraza> no, a desktop pc
[06:18] <urilock> !music
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <zaraza> a generic clone
[06:18] <BluesKaj> ivcircolo, try this if you aren't too worried about security  : sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt , then , sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount
[06:19] <zaraza> was running fine ubuntu 5.something
[06:19] <urilock> whats the bot command for media players?
[06:19] <zaraza> and I had the great idea to upgrade to kubuntu 7.04
[06:19] <ivcircolo> llutz: my users are equal on win, linux and samba
[06:19] <urilock> !media
[06:19] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:19] <urilock> ah
[06:19] <stdin> urilock: you can /msg ubotu media
[06:19] <ivcircolo> my set security:  share
[06:20] <stdin> zaraza: is this a fresh install?
[06:20] <BluesKaj> ok then ivcircolo , do the commands
[06:20] <urilock> thansk
[06:20] <zaraza> yes, I formated the /dev/hda1 totally
[06:20] <urilock> thanks
[06:20] <zaraza> from the installation thingy
[06:20] <TooEarly> jhutchins: you around
[06:20] <zaraza> the installation ran fne, no errors, everything dandy
[06:20] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: Yes, good morning.
[06:20] <zaraza> went to the msg box about reboot ,did it, and never booted again
[06:20] <zaraza> I'm from the live cd now
[06:21] <TooEarly> jhutchins_lt: what dvd burning program did you recommend to me?
[06:21] <stdin> zaraza: is that dapper, edgy or feisty ?
[06:21] <seishinbyou> k3b
[06:21] <clcar> hola
[06:21] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: I like k3b - it just works.
[06:22] <Pazy> Can someone help me with my prob?
[06:22] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: I've never bothered to figure out cdrecord.
[06:22] <zaraza> stdin: kubuntu 7.04, feisty fawn
[06:22] <ivcircolo> BluesKaj: what commands ???
[06:22] <clcar> no entiendo que esta vaina
[06:22] <TooEarly> jhutchins_lt: well didn't you recommend a program that burns dvd video
[06:22] <jhutchins_lt> Pazy: Sorry, our psychics are currently off-line.
[06:22] <clcar> alguien me puede explicar
[06:22] <stdin> !es | clcar
[06:22] <ubotu> clcar: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:22] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: Yeah, I like to tovid package
[06:23] <stdin> Pazy: try "grub install --recheck /dev/hda"
[06:23] <TooEarly> jhutchins_lt: ok, do you add any of your own commands to it? to get better video or anything? because i'm using -vbitrate and i get a little better video but not all the time
[06:23] <TooEarly> and also the audio isn't too great.. sounds very hollow
[06:23] <Pazy> says unrecognised command
[06:23] <stdin> zaraza: I've herd that install from the alternate cd works with it
[06:23] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: That takes a lot of experimentation.
[06:23] <stdin> Pazy: erm, that's  "grub-install --recheck /dev/hda"
[06:24] <TooEarly> jhutchins_lt: yeah i know.. it's been taking me forever to try to get something decent. i've been using 6600 which is alright i guess for a 700 meg movie
[06:24] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: It's been a while since I messed with it, but there are two encoding programs you can use, try messing with that.
[06:24] <TooEarly> mpeg2enc and ffmpeg right?
[06:24] <ivcircolo> on my error samba no anyone ????
[06:24] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: There are just so many options, and a lot depends on the input format.
[06:24] <Pazy> It says /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[06:24] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: Right.
[06:25] <Pazy> wait im a twat
[06:25] <Pazy> forgot to substitute /hda for my drive :P
[06:25] <stdin> ivcircolo: try #samba
[06:25] <Pazy> retrying your suggestion
[06:25] <TooEarly> jhutchins_lt: do you remember at all how big your movies came out to be
[06:25] <stdin> Pazy: watch the language in here
[06:25] <Pazy> thats a bad word?
[06:26] <compilerwriter> I am beginning to wonder if it is not the thumb drive now.  I could not get any of my computers to recognize it.
[06:26] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: I went for about 450M for a 1 hour episode, that way I can get six episodes on one disk.
[06:26] <jhutchins_lt> Pazy: Worse in some cultures.  Use "twit" instead.
[06:27] <TooEarly> jhutchins_lt: ok so the hour episodes i have are around... 250 or 300. so that quality i guess would be alright
[06:27] <pag> compilerwriter, is it formated to any FS?
[06:27] <jhutchins_lt> Pazy: Sorry,  i had missed your earlier description of the problem.
[06:27] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: Yeah, I don't think I'd go much lower than that, but it also depends on what you're playing back on.  I have a pretty old conventional NTSC monitor.
[06:28] <compilerwriter> it might be formatted to linux pag but still I put in this other thumb drive and my machine automounted it.
[06:28] <TooEarly> jhutchins_lt: ah. yeah i have a nice HDTV widescreen so i want mine as highest quality as i can :)
[06:28] <Nykonis> Can anyone help me? I can't seem to log into DalNet
[06:28] <compilerwriter> I think I last used the drive as a boot for DSL
[06:28] <zaraza> so, just copying the working boot image from the CD may work? or is a crazy idea
[06:28] <Pazy> This output of that command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33713/
[06:28] <zaraza> like a cp of the boot images from cd/boot to my hd/boot
[06:29] <pag> compilerwriter, if the drive is new (or emptied) it might not have any FS, and therefor it can't be automounted
[06:29] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: That sounds a little bit sparse then, I would expect that you'd want larger files.   Only thing I can recommend is experiment.
[06:29] <compilerwriter> ok pag.
[06:29] <compilerwriter> brb
[06:29] <TooEarly> jhutchins_lt: alright
[06:29] <urilock> ahh
[06:29] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: I found avidemux to be a good  visual editor if you need to chop, splice, or change the format when you transcode.
[06:29] <urilock> i just turned on desktop settings
[06:29] <urilock> and it messed up my whole environment
[06:29] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: Some good advice to be had in #tovid, and they can probably direct you to some lists where transcoding is discussed.
[06:29] <TooEarly> jhutchins_lt: i haven't needed to really
[06:29] <urilock> i cant see what im typing
[06:29] <stdin> Pazy: that seemed to work then
[06:30] <Pazy> What did it do?
[06:30] <TooEarly> jhutchins_lt: i tried to talk in there.. no one responded :\
[06:30] <jhutchins_lt> I had trouble getting some euro-spec videos to record cleanly in NTSC widescreen format.
[06:30] <jhutchins_lt> TooEarly: Check at another time of day.
[06:30] <TooEarly> yeah
[06:30] <stdin> Pazy: install grub to the MBR of /dev/sdb
[06:30] <urilock> all my docks are black boxes
[06:30] <urilock> i turned them off
[06:30] <urilock> i can see now
[06:30] <urilock> my theme changed and everything :(
[06:31] <Pazy> Think ive done that (used arrow to re do command) but the output is very similer to output of command you told me im not sure if i did it
[06:31] <Pazy> ill reset and see
[06:31] <shadowhywind> anyone know how i can disabe Sync To Vblank in Beryl
[06:32] <jhutchins_lt> shadowhywind: Sorry, beryl-specific help is in #ubuntu-effects.
[06:32] <shadowhywind> k thanks
[06:34] <compilerwriter> so pag before I chuck this drive I should do what to verify that it indeed is junk?
[06:35] <pag> compilerwriter, mm... you should probably istall qtparted and see what it says about that drive
[06:36] <clcar_> necesito saber como ir al #ubuntu-es
[06:37] <stdin> clcar_: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:37] <trekdanne> in /proc/PID/status, what does the "Cpus_allowed" and "Mems_allowed" mean?
[06:38] <trekdanne> kinda cryptic don't you think?
[06:39] <stdin> trekdanne: #linux would probably be a better place to ask those types of technical questions
[06:39] <trekdanne> stdin: kk
[06:40] <llutz> trekdanne: http://lwn.net/Articles/127936/
[06:40] <trekdanne> but ##linux is flooding as usual :P
[06:40] <trekdanne> llutz: thx
[06:41] <ScarFreewill> when I try to install kde4 beta1 (apt-get -s install kde4base-dev) I get the following: kde4base-dev: Depends: kdelibs5-dev but it is not going to be installed and Depends: kdepimlibs4-dev but it is not going to be installed
[06:41] <ScarFreewill> i've got feisty aswell as feisty-backports in my repostory
[06:42] <zaraza> what about this? if I do a chroot to my hard disk, can I upgrade stuff using aptitude?
[06:42] <zaraza> like, upgrading the kernel to see if I can finally boot?
[06:42] <compilerwriter> pag qtparted did not even see the thumb drive
[06:42] <stdin> ScarFreewill: try with aptitude, it seems to work better (but report the problem in #kubuntu-devel )
[06:42] <ScarFreewill> stdin: ok
[06:42] <stdin> zaraza: don't see why not
[06:43] <pag> compilerwriter, hmm... strange. I don't know why, sorry.
[06:44] <compilerwriter> I think the drive got stepped on or something accidently.  It is just toast.  I didn't have anything important on it thankfully.
[06:44] <zaraza> stdin: ok, i did that... now I will reboot... time to cross fingers...
[06:50] <zaraza> stdin: well, I'm glad to say that worked
[06:50] <zaraza> stdin: I'm now from the hard disk, the live cd sitting on my desktop
[06:50] <zaraza> the solution was to chroot to the hard disk, and upgrade the kernel using aptitude
[06:50] <zaraza> I don't know if I should fill that as a bug somewhere or something
[06:51] <zaraza> because the md5 of the CD is ok, the mem test also ran fine, and the installation did not gave any errors
[06:52] <stdin> zaraza: probably should, but not sure about the package to report it on, as it's the CD that seems out of date, anyway https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu < for bugs
[06:55] <ScarFreewill> !pastebin
[06:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:00] <Moo> Could someone help, Kubuntu mounts memry cards as read only and it has mounted them as rw before
[07:00] <zorglu_> !samba
[07:00] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:01] <jhutchins_lt> Moo: Is there an entry in fstab for the memory cards (when they are not mounted)?
[07:02] <someguy> "cooperate" with windows. LOL
[07:02] <jhutchins_lt> someguy: Precicely the definition of co-operate: to operate together.
[07:02] <someguy> still sounds funny
[07:03] <Moo> jhutchins_lt: No, but they have worked just fine before
[07:03] <trekdanne> actually samba plays quite nicely with windows IMHO
[07:04] <trekdanne> still need a implementation of Active Directory tho
[07:04] <trekdanne> samba still needs that is not me :P
[07:05] <shadowhywind> does anyone know what the nosmp boot option does
[07:05] <sito> what is the name of paint of windows in kubuntu? it seem
[07:05] <stdin> shadowhywind: I would guess it turns smp off
[07:06] <shadowhywind> would it disable the use of a dual core?
[07:06] <someguy> sito its called GIMP
[07:06] <stdin> of dual core or more than one GUP
[07:06] <stdin> CPU rather
[07:07] <shadowhywind> dang, hehe
[07:07] <sito> no.. gimp is a big program...
[07:07] <shadowhywind> I am trying to get hibernation to work, and it only seams to work when i add nosmp at boot
[07:07] <stdin> sito: Krita ?
[07:07] <jhutchins_lt> Moo: Yeah, this is a known issue.
[07:07] <sito> a program seem paint of microsoft
[07:07] <sito> mmm no XD
[07:07] <NickPresta> sito, kolourpaint?
[07:07] <Moo> Aug 14 20:05:27 jalkahiki kernel: [12836.065921]  sdd: Write Protect is on
[07:08] <stdin> sito: try asking in #kubuntu-es if you want
[07:09] <sito> It is equal to the paint of microsoft, very equally
[07:10] <stdin> Moo: is it a card that has a switch? for write protection ?
[07:10] <NickPresta> sito, `apt-cache search paint`. Have fun trying them all :)
[07:10] <sito> thanks
[07:10] <Moo> stdin: No, but now it works again, and I didn't even change anything
[07:11] <stdin> weird :p
[07:11] <trekdanne> IIRC mspaint.exe works under WINE too, if you want the exact same stuff
[07:13] <sito> gpaint is the name :D
[07:19] <stdin> figures it would be a gnome app...
[07:20] <speaker219> Does anyone know if it's possible to run a WindowsXP system that is already installed on another partition inside of linux in a virtual machine?
[07:21] <zorglu_> wow i try to get winxp to read ubuntu dir :) i dont get xp :)
[07:21] <zorglu_> speaker219: it is. i did it today
[07:22] <Pazy> Ive gotten Grub on my WinXP Hard drive as well but it dosent work. Something about an unsupported format. If i edit menu.lst will that affect the WinXP grub? if not how can I edit it
[07:22] <zorglu_> speaker219: nothing about 'partition' tho. i use virtual box which use normal files
[07:22] <yukino> ayudadpkg --configure -a'
[07:22] <yukino> en espaol
[07:22] <yukino> ayudadpkg --configure -a'
[07:22] <zorglu_> ?
[07:22] <zorglu_> !es
[07:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:22] <speaker219> wait what do you mean zorglu_?
[07:23] <zorglu_> speaker219: 1. it is possible to install xp under a linux virtual box 2. no partition involved
[07:23] <speaker219> i want to run my current XP install inside a VM
[07:23] <zorglu_> !virtualbox | speaker219
[07:23] <ubotu> speaker219: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[07:23] <zorglu_> speaker219: this is what i used
[07:24] <speaker219> can i just sudo apt-get install virtualbox?
[07:24] <speaker219> apparently not :P
[07:26] <Pazy> Anyone able to help me?
[07:28] <Pazy> It seems not
[07:29] <BluesKaj> Pazy, depends what your prob is
[07:29] <zorglu_> speaker219: read th epage it is all explained here
[07:31] <Pazy> BluesKaj: Look up :P
[07:31] <urilock> hey
[07:31] <ScarFreewill> !info dbus-x11
[07:31] <ubotu> Package dbus-x11 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:31] <speaker219> you know XP can read ubuntu partitions?
[07:32] <zorglu_> !tab | speaker219
[07:32] <speaker219> what does that do?
[07:32] <stdin> speaker219: there is a driver for XP, but it can be buggy
[07:32] <speaker219> yeah
[07:32] <speaker219> it's an IFS
[07:32] <ubotu> speaker219: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:32] <esra_> hi
[07:32] <speaker219> i installed it recently, haven't had any problems so far
[07:32] <speaker219> !tab
[07:33] <speaker219> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:33] <speaker219> woops
[07:33] <BluesKaj> we're not here to hold your hand Pazy , you have to try to help yourself too
[07:34] <esra_> is there anybody to speak tome!!:)
[07:34] <speaker219> Kubuntu is alot less popular than ubuntu, i gather.
[07:35] <BluesKaj> ppl here have made some vg  suggestions , but if you choose to ignore them , then you will continue to have problems
[07:35] <speaker219> I used ubuntu, and installed kubuntu-desktop and I love it.
[07:35] <BluesKaj> !ask | esra_
[07:35] <ubotu> esra_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:35] <speaker219> !ubuntu | speaker219
[07:36] <speaker219> uh oh
[07:36] <speaker219> ubotu has left :O
[07:36] <esra_> hey i'm new here and wanna talk about
[07:36] <esra_> do u get me
[07:36] <esra_> ??
[07:36] <stdin> erm, ubotu's having some technical issues right now...
[07:36] <speaker219> yeah, okay
[07:36] <BluesKaj> ask your question, esra_
[07:36] <speaker219> i hope i didn't just screw it up :P i typed !ubuntu | speaker219
[07:37] <esra_> how r u??
[07:37] <PP188> PP188:
[07:37] <speaker219> then it said ubotu has left this server (Remote closed the connection).
[07:37] <stdin> speaker219: no, it wasn't you :p
[07:38] <esra_> im turkish
[07:38] <esra_> :)
[07:39] <urilock> i went there a couple months ago
[07:40] <speaker219> stdin, what's wrong with the bot
[07:40] <stdin> he's having a bad day
[07:40] <stdin> servers are moving about
[07:42] <urilock> tha bounty huntaa
[07:42] <yeniklasor> How can I learn my IP from terminal ?
[07:43] <stdin> yeniklasor: ifconfig
[07:44] <speaker219> when i run ifconfig, it says "RX bytes:68922139 (65.7 MiB) " what does that mean"
[07:44] <stdin> that how much data you've received
[07:45] <tobias_> ip addr works as well :)
[07:45] <yeniklasor> stdin : Not local ip. I wanna learn my real IP like a website ip
[07:45] <yeniklasor> or this irc how see us
[07:45] <yeniklasor> that IP
[07:45] <tobias_> yeniklasor: try ip addr
[07:46] <stdin> yeniklasor: /whois yeniklasor
[07:46] <speaker219> go to http://whatismyip.com/ it gives your outside IP
[07:46] <miles_> Biovore: what is up with gumstix?
[07:46] <someguy> yeniklasor that is your "real" ip even though it may be rfc 1918 private address space
[07:46] <tobias_> okay, now I see what he was talking about
[07:46] <tobias_> my fault, sorry
[07:46] <speaker219> http://whatismyip.com/ gives you the outside IP to
[07:47] <yeniklasor> stdin : No. Look my ip 85.96.23*.***  . How to learn this with terminal ?
[07:48] <someguy> yeniklasor - depends on what you want to do
[07:48] <khaije1> yeniklasor: examine the output of the ifconfig command
[07:48] <miles_> does anyone know of a lite version of jboss?
[07:48] <speaker219> ifconfig does not give the outside IP address
[07:49] <someguy> yeniklasor - ipconfig is going to give it to you your local IP not the IP of a gateway, firewall, router.. etc
[07:49] <khaije1> oh, misunderstood the question
[07:49] <speaker219> yeniklasor: i don't know if its possible in terminal, but http://whatismyip.com/ will tell you, so you could always do something like lynx http://whatimsyip.com/ if you really wanted it from terminal
[07:49] <urilock> blocking out your ip isnt worth it
[07:49] <urilock> --> yeniklasor has joined this channel (n=yeniklas@85.96.230.229).
[07:49] <urilock> lol
[07:50] <yeniklasor> you mean it is impossible
[07:50] <yeniklasor> urilock :D
[07:50] <urilock> heh
[07:50] <yeniklasor> this irc has a bug
[07:50] <yeniklasor> why it is showing my ip
[07:50] <yeniklasor> :D
[07:51] <stdin> no, it's not a bug
[07:51] <someguy> thats by design
[07:51] <someguy> use a proxy if you want something else listed
[07:51] <someguy> lol
[07:51] <stdin> or get a cloak, like me :)
[07:51] <BluesKaj> or get a cloak
[07:52] <yamal> or get your own ip block :p
[07:52] <speaker219> yeniklasor, do you still want to get your public IP in terminal?
[07:52] <zorglu_> !samba
[07:52] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:52] <zorglu_> q. where can i find SWAT ?
[07:52] <someguy> google.com
[07:52] <khaije1> it is assigned by your ISP and generally subject to change. tcpip is designed so that you don't really need to know so it's not a a job for the OS
[07:52] <stdin> !info swat
[07:52] <miles_> does anyone know of a jboss lite/
[07:52] <ubotu> swat: Samba Web Administration Tool. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 800 kB, installed size 2180 kB
[07:52] <yeniklasor> speaker219 : yes
[07:53] <speaker219> sudo apt-get install lynx, then you can go type the command lynx http://www.whatismyip.com/
[07:53] <zorglu_> stdin: thanks
[07:53] <urilock> are the red names admins?
[07:53] <someguy> http://osiris.shmoo.com/
[07:53] <someguy> oops
[07:53] <speaker219> no
[07:53] <someguy> http://www.samba.org/samba/GUI/
[07:53] <someguy> sorry
[07:53] <stdin> speaker219: you cheat
[07:53] <someguy> wrong link on the first one
[07:54] <yeniklasor> stdin : What is cloak ?
[07:54] <stdin> yeniklasor: do /whois stdin
[07:54] <speaker219> what do you mean stdin?
[07:54] <drewcipher> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloak
[07:55] <someguy> cloak is a type of loose garment that is worn over indoor clothing and serves the same purpose as an overcoatit protects
[07:55] <someguy> lol
[07:55] <stdin> yeniklasor: my IP address is hidden, so instead of stdin@MY-IP, people see stdin@pdpc/supporter/active/stdin
[07:55] <knightz> how do you get 3ddesk in kubuntu?
[07:56] <zorglu_> hmm swat doesnt support xinetd :)
[07:56] <urilock> i love my air pressure chair
[07:56] <harlequinade> has anyone had problems with shippit's CD's?
[07:56] <stdin> can't say I have
[07:57] <knightz> how do you get 3ddesk in kubuntu? compiz algx and stuff?
[07:57] <urilock> is 3dblender worth getting?
[07:57] <knightz> yes
[07:57] <ScarFreewill> harlequinade: no, I use it quite often hence my country's internet is slow and expencive its even faster to use shipit then to download
[07:58] <knightz> well i'd say so
[07:58] <harlequinade> I'm just having a major pain trying to get a shared install from a shiippit CD of Edgy
[07:58] <miles_> swat supports inetd
[07:58] <ScarFreewill> !beryl|knightz
[07:58] <ubotu> knightz: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:59] <knightz> so does it work with intel 915gm cards?
[07:59] <miles_> knightz: i run it with that card on my work laptop right now
[08:00] <miles_> it works, but it can get laggy and there are some AA issues
[08:00] <miles_> its satisfactory though
[08:00] <knightz> so do you get the 3d cube working?
[08:00] <stdin> 915m is more than powerful enough for beryl
[08:00] <miles_> yea
[08:01] <knightz> cause the reason i started using kubuntu was ubuntu was too slow with my hardware and buggy!!
[08:01] <zorglu_> q. when i connect swat on http://localhost:901, it ask me for a username/password, any idea about which username/password it is talking about ?
[08:02] <speaker219> 915GM!
[08:02] <miles_> kde is probably more resource intensive than gnome
[08:02] <miles_> you should really switch to xubuntu if that is ur concern
[08:02] <miles_> xfce ftw
[08:02] <stdin> miles_: heh, no
[08:02] <miles_> what?!!?!?!!
[08:02] <stdin> kde is not more recourse intensive at all
[08:02] <miles_> compared to gnome?
[08:02] <knightz> nah...xfce nah... hell no
[08:02] <miles_> xfce ftl
[08:03] <urilock> it depends if you have laggy things turned on
[08:03] <zorglu_> !offtopic
[08:03] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:03] <stdin> miles_: yes, compared to gome
[08:03] <zorglu_> -offtopic is good channel for war
[08:03] <miles_> this isnt off topic
[08:03] <Tm_T> no it's not
[08:03] <miles_> and we arent warring
[08:03] <stdin> zorglu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat
[08:03] <zorglu_> stdin: thanks
[08:04] <knightz> well i one my have faith in *buntu aleast with kubuntu
[08:05] <knightz> well i once more have faith in *buntu aleast with kubuntu
[08:05] <jhutchins_lt> kde uses about 30% less ram/cpu than gnome.
[08:05] <knightz> yes it does
[08:05] <jhutchins_lt> That's with the current releses, it comes and goes, but current advantage is kde.
[08:05] <knightz> i now feel the power of my hardware
[08:06] <Ahmuck> will kubuntu run on 256 mb ram?
[08:06] <knightz> the kubuntu install rocks alot
[08:06] <stdin> Ahmuck: depends on the CPU
[08:06] <Ahmuck> athlon 1800
[08:07] <yeniklasor> stdin : There is a Php code that show visitor's ip. What was it do you know
[08:07] <stdin> Ahmuck: what speed is that?
[08:07] <knightz> i tried it with a 4oomhz nd 128mb and it was pretty fast with 1gig of swap aleast
[08:07] <Ahmuck> about 1.6
[08:07] <stdin> yeniklasor: I don't do PHP :p
[08:07] <yeniklasor> stdin : ok :D
[08:07] <stdin> Ahmuck: should so yes
[08:07] <Ahmuck> any reason to have 10g swap ?
[08:07] <yeniklasor> stdin asp ? :P
[08:07] <jhutchins_lt> Ahmuck: Yes, but you need to be a bit diciplined about how much stuff you run.
[08:07] <speaker219> <?php echo $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']  ?> FTW
[08:07] <yeniklasor> speaker219 : checking
[08:07] <stdin> Ahmuck: 10GB? no, I'd say you'd need a 1-2GB swap
[08:08] <jhutchins_lt> Ahmuck: If you get into swap preformance really dies.
[08:08] <urilock> i have a 1gb swap
[08:08] <zorglu_> to config samba is a pain :)
[08:08] <jhutchins_lt> much more than 2g swap is pretty pointless.
[08:08] <jhutchins_lt> zorglu_: It can be.
[08:08] <zorglu_> q. is there a way i could increase the amount of log from samba ?
[08:08] <speaker219> yeniklasor: what?
[08:08] <jhutchins_lt> zorglu_: Get some good docs and use swat with the internal links to the docs.
[08:08] <miles_> i could never get swat to work
[08:08] <stdin> yeniklasor: as far as web code, I can do html (and a little bit o' javascript), but that's it
[08:08] <zorglu_> jhutchins_lt: all i got from it is 'login invalid' :)
[08:09] <urilock> i was originally making partitions for kubuntu and kubuntu install because i could get my cd drive to work
[08:09] <urilock> then when i was almost ready
[08:09] <urilock> it started working
[08:09] <knightz> the only problem is the step technology? why isn't it stepping up and down speed faster?
[08:09] <urilock> :(
[08:09] <jhutchins_lt> zorglu_: Are you looking in /var/log?
[08:10] <zorglu_> jhutchins_lt: /var/log/samba/*
[08:10] <yeniklasor> speaker219 : thanks worked
[08:10] <knightz> how do i know how much video ram i'm using?
[08:11] <urilock> whats the install code
[08:11] <urilock> im a newb :(
[08:11] <urilock> sudo apt get something i forget
[08:11] <Ahmuck> sudo aptitude
[08:11] <stdin> urilock: you can use adept you know
[08:11] <Ahmuck> sudo aptitude install someprogram
[08:12] <knightz> sudo apt-get install *program-name
[08:12] <urilock> what the hell
[08:12] <urilock> terminal is gone?!
[08:12] <Ahmuck> urilock, i use yakuake for terminal goodness
[08:13] <urilock> i fixed it
[08:13] <urilock> i did runcommand
[08:13] <urilock> yakuake? il google it
[08:13] <vge> i second yakuake
[08:13] <urilock> oh great
[08:13] <urilock> i just uninstalled firefox
[08:13] <stdin> !info yakuake
[08:13] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[08:14] <zorglu_> damn i cant belive that
[08:15] <knightz> urilock just does (in a terminal) sudo apt-get install *update and then sudo apt-get install *upgrade
[08:15] <zorglu_> i mean how hard it is to provide a log
[08:15] <Ahmuck> urilock: konqeror will work great
[08:15] <zorglu_> some info to know what doesn work
[08:15] <knightz> urilock just just do (in a terminal) sudo apt-get install *update and then sudo apt-get install *upgrade
[08:15] <urilock> ok
[08:16] <jhutchins_lt> knightz: Where did you get the *?
[08:16] <tduda> msg nickserv set hide email on
[08:16] <knightz> tral and error
[08:16] <knightz> trial and error
[08:16] <jhutchins_lt> knightz: I've never seen it suggested before, most people just use update/upgrade.
[08:17] <jhutchins_lt> (Other distros have a combined command that does both).
[08:17] <knightz> well it works
[08:18] <stdin> sudo apt-get install *upgrade gives me "E: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression"
[08:18] <speaker219> yeniklasor, you there?
[08:18] <stdin> dito with *update
[08:18] <knightz> well try sudo apt-get install update and then sudo apt-get install upgrade
[08:19] <Where|here> At least once a day, the X server crashes and restarts. This sometimes happens when using FireFox and sometimes happens when using Pidgin. I am using the 64-bit version. If anybody has any suggestions as to how to diagnose this problem, I would be very appreciative.
[08:19] <stdin> knightz: nah, I just do "ag u"
[08:19] <knightz> is konquerer better than or equal to firefox?
[08:20] <urilock> sudo apt-get install yukuake                that's wrong isn't it
[08:20] <speaker219> knightz: worse
[08:20] <stdin> knightz: btw: that gives "E: Couldn't find package update"
[08:20] <speaker219> i know you guys will hate me for this :P
[08:20] <Ahmuck> knightz: i like konq for things like ssh://somesite.com or sftp://somesite.com
[08:20] <speaker219> sudo apt-get update
[08:20] <speaker219> not sudo apt-get install update
[08:20] <Ahmuck> so it has it's benifits
[08:20] <knightz> sh*t yes that's right
[08:21] <speaker219> ye: you there?
[08:21] <ye> speaker219: yes
[08:21] <speaker219> hey
[08:21] <speaker219> talk in the private message
[08:21] <Ahmuck> knightz: for browsing i use firefox
[08:21] <urilock> lewis@Lewis-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get update yakuake
[08:21] <urilock> E: The update command takes no arguments
[08:21] <urilock> does that mean anything?
[08:21] <knightz> why doesn't kubuntu come with firefox?
[08:21] <stdin> urilock: replace "update" with "install"
[08:21] <zorglu_> moauoau
[08:21] <Ahmuck> urilock: sudo aptitude install yakuake
[08:21] <Roey> hi
[08:21] <vge> urilock: best would just search the paggage manager for interesting paggages :)
[08:21] <Roey> anyone here know about DNS configuration?
[08:22] <Where|here> knightz: It is subjective. I find konqueror to be more reliable, but to render fewer pages correctly.
[08:22] <zorglu_> too much. i mean printf must be expensive for them
[08:22] <Ahmuck> urilock: sudo aptitude install firefox
[08:22] <speaker219> yeniklasorr: hello?
[08:22] <Roey> Regarding BIND configuration, does this options{} stanza look correct?  I want to be able to set this as my domain's authoritative DNS server, so that any queries to it from the internal network will be able to ping google.com, say...http://rafb.net/p/vn5oS074.html
[08:22] <stdin> knightz: because konqueror is a functional browser and the policy is to have only one app installed for each purpose
[08:22] <urilock> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:22] <urilock>  clvm
[08:22] <urilock> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:22] <urilock> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[08:22] <Ahmuck> and i think because kde likes to promote it's own products
[08:22] <yeniklasorr> speaker219 : hi
[08:22] <knightz> hm.. i understand
[08:23] <urilock> is that a fatal error
[08:23] <Ahmuck> urilock: do you have adept open?
[08:23] <jhutchins_lt> Roey: Looks ok to me.
[08:23] <knightz> urilock just do sudo apt-get install *program-name
[08:24] <stdin> knightz: that will install everything with "program-name" in it's package name
[08:24] <stdin> knightz: including -dev;s
[08:24] <knightz> no I mean progranm-name= the program he wants to install
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> knightz: Firefox has memory leaks and a lot of bugs that go WAY back.
[08:24] <killown|away> hi
[08:24] <stdin> knightz: yes, I know
[08:25] <Roey> jhutchins_lt:  ahh, thanks.  What about that allow-query option, though?  The current problem is that it's not forwarding at all.  I can query for names in my local network in its domain, but it fails to forward unknown queries to my internet provider's DNS hosts
[08:25] <Ahmuck> krdc, possible to connect to another kubuntu desktop for tutorials?
[08:25] <stdin> knightz: it will install all packages with the name in them
[08:25] <killown|away> kdm does not allow run synaptic as root but gdm allow it why?
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> Roey: Sorry to say I've never gotten forwarding to work correctly.
[08:25] <Ahmuck> jhutchins_lt: yes, i am finding that memory leaks are hurting me
[08:25] <killown|away> (synaptic:15234): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> Roey: Let me see what I have here, it's old format...
[08:26] <stdin> killown|away:  how did you start synaptic ?
[08:26] <killown|away> stdin I am looged in as root
[08:26] <shadowhywind> hay all, having issues with my hibernation*it don't work* s2disk works only if i give nosmp at boot
[08:26] <knightz> hm....that never happened to me!!! atleast
[08:26] <killown|away> then only type "synaptic"
[08:26] <stdin> killown|away: kdm disables root login by default
[08:26] <killown|away> stdin how do i to enable again?
[08:26] <stdin> killown|away: you mean you have a root shell ?
[08:27] <killown|away> stdin, I found it
[08:27] <stdin> killown|away: exit the root shell and use "kdesi synaptic"
[08:27] <killown|away> Allowrootlogin=true
[08:27] <killown|away> ty
[08:27] <stdin> *kdesu
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> Roey: Ah, I see, you need the "forward" directive.
[08:27] <Roey> jhutchins_lt:  do I?  How so?
[08:27] <stdin> killown|away: it's NOT recommended to be logged in as root
[08:27] <stdin> killown|away: (in an X session)
[08:27] <killown|away> stdin in konsole only
[08:27] <jhutchins_lt> Before forwarders {};, just forward ;
[08:28] <knightz> ok stupid question of the day!!!! if i have ubuntu install right and i want to install kubuntu on the same partition how do i do that?
[08:28] <shadowhywind> where is the location of the log, from startup?
[08:28] <stdin> killown|away: then you don't need to mess with KDM, just use kdesu
[08:28] <vge> theres no stupid questions, only stupid people
[08:28] <jhutchins_lt> Roey: My problem is that I would like it to fall back to forward, but it doesn't seem to be an option.
[08:28] <stdin> !KDE | knightz
[08:28] <ubotu> knightz: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[08:28] <Roey> jhutchins_lt:  but it's either forward {first} or forward{ default }, and I want it to forward iff the name it was queried with was not found
[08:28] <Roey> jhutchins_lt:  oh, you mean like what I said now?
[08:28] <killown|away> stdin, I need of front end to manager themes of kdm
[08:28] <knightz> ok
[08:28] <killown|away> does it exist?
[08:29] <stdin> killown|away: kdmtheme
[08:29] <speaker219> if anybody else wants the script to get your public ip address http://pastebin.ca/657230
[08:29] <stdin> killown|away: you use it from kcontrol
[08:29] <jhutchins_lt> Roey: Ok, I defer, like I said I didn't get it working, so I just do a local cache.
[08:29] <killown|away> kdm         kdm_config  kdmctl      kdm_greet
[08:30] <killown|away> only this commands
[08:30] <knightz> so you mean i don't have to kill ubuntu and install kubuntu? sh*t!!!
[08:30] <stdin> killown|away: you install the package kdmtheme
[08:30] <killown|away> stdin yes
[08:30] <urilock> yakuake is neat!
[08:31] <speaker219> just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:31] <urilock> thanks all
[08:31] <knightz> i thought that the os-core was differnet
[08:31] <stdin> knightz: adding an asterisk doesn't do a good job of hiding that, just don't type it
[08:31] <killown|away> stdin, apt say package yes installed
[08:31] <killown|away> yet*
[08:31] <Ahmuck> urilock: :-) ... np
[08:31] <speaker219> i personally have all the desktop environments installed :P ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, you can just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or whatever
[08:31] <stdin> killown|away: you use it from kcontrol
[08:31] <killown|away> stdin, kcontrol not found kdmtheme
[08:31] <killown|away> then its impossible manager kdm
[08:32] <urilock> i think im missing some kubuntu programs
[08:32] <knightz> what is the deal with ubuntu-studio?
[08:32] <urilock> when i went pure kde
[08:32] <Assid> yello
[08:32] <genii> Hmm another candidate for a Next Generation release , like aircrack (yakuake) last release was in mid 2005 and not being developed anymore
[08:32] <vge> urilock: have u tried updating the menu (stupid question)
[08:32] <stdin> killown|away: kdm theme manager is in System Administration in kcontrol
[08:33] <killown|away> stdin, ohh! than you
[08:33] <killown|away> thank*
[08:34] <jhutchins_lt> knightz: One of the conventions on freenode is that we put variables in angle-brackets (<>), so apt-get install <foo>
[08:34] <knightz> ok
[08:34] <jhutchins_lt> knightz: Usually it's used with an informative placeholder, so apt-get install <packagename> or mysql -u <username> -p
[08:35] <Ahmuck> urilock: what programs do you think your missing?
[08:35] <urilock> i was missing firefox and terminal
[08:35] <Ahmuck> well, yakuake will work fine for your terminal, and adding firefox is very simple
[08:35] <urilock> yeah
[08:36] <vge> urilock: yakuake and firefox dont come with kde
[08:36] <genii> urilock: In kde the terminal is konsole instead
[08:36] <urilock> yeah
[08:36] <Roey> jhutchins_lt:  ok, thanks anyway
[08:36] <knightz> what's the deal with the missing codec's?
[08:37] <speaker219> yeniklasorr, you there?
[08:37] <Ahmuck> urilock: there are three ways in kubuntu to add packages, through add/remove programs, through adept, and through the cli using apt-get
[08:37] <urilock> its probably because i was used to the gnome apps
[08:37] <stdin> !codecs
[08:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <vge> knightz: i bet they would put all the codeks in if that would be legal
[08:37] <Ahmuck> urilock: gnome is set up very nicely.  i usually have to customize kubuntu for my own purposes
[08:37] <knightz> ok
[08:37] <jhutchins_lt> Roey: Sounds like you might be on the right track though.  My problem was that the documentation hadn't caught up to changes in the config files last time I seriously messed with it.
[08:37] <stdin> knightz: it would be illigal to install them by default in some placed, that's why we don't
[08:37] <Roey> ok
[08:37] <Roey> jhutchins_lt:  I mean... nothing works :(
[08:38] <jhutchins_lt> Oh -well, try just "forward;"
[08:38] <jhutchins_lt> Roey: Actually, in my config file I don't even have a semicolon after it, which is probably a problem.
[08:39] <Ahmuck> anybody using GPS apps on kubuntu?  what are some of the more usefull apps?
[08:40] <Roey> jhutchins_lt:  it doesn't help here in my case when I add a "forward first;" or "forward only"
[08:40] <knightz> sontel 915gm cards? final dumb question does kubuntu support opengl with i
[08:41] <Ahmuck> i've been looking at marble, and wondered if there were any app assoiciated with it, or plugins
[08:41] <stdin> knightz: yes, intel have open source drivers, they are installed by default
[08:41] <knightz>  final dumb question does kubuntu support opengl with intel cards
[08:41] <Roey> yes
[08:41] <stdin> knightz: look up
[08:42] <knightz> ok.... cause las time it told me that my 915gm was a 810gm card
[08:42] <stdin> "it told you"? what told you?
[08:43] <knightz> well atleast kubuntu support my bios unlike bsd
[08:43] <stdin> does ubuntu?
[08:43] <knightz> yes
[08:43] <stdin> knightz: they are the same
[08:43] <knightz> i know
[08:44] <stdin> knightz: then you know the answer
[08:44] <knightz> what about the *buntu file structure? is the same as redhat of knopix?
[08:44] <jhutchins> Roey: try just forward, not forward first.
[08:45] <cloakable> knightz: yup
[08:45] <stdin> they all follow the standard FileSystem Hierarchy
[08:45] <knightz> ok
[08:45] <Assid> stdin: im going nuts here..
[08:45] <Assid> again no compiz
[08:45] <Roey> jhutchins:  by itself? ok.
[08:45] <knightz> so i can download a kernel source and recompile it and was in ubuntu right?
[08:46] <knightz> so i can download a kernel source and recompile it and use in ubuntu right?
[08:46] <Assid> knightz: you can download and recompile and use the linux kernel on any linux distro
[08:46] <jhutchins> knightz: You can also download the kernel source as patched for ubuntu and do a custom compile.
[08:46] <Roey> jhutchins:   unamed[6930] : /etc/bind/named.conf:26: expected unquoted string near ';'
[08:46] <stdin> knightz: why would you need to tho?
[08:46] <knightz> so the kernel isn't compile differently for ubuntu?
[08:47] <Roey> jhutchins:  that's for "forward;"
[08:47] <knightz> just wondering
[08:47] <stdin> knightz: like i said, thay are the SAME
[08:47] <Assid> jhutchins: any clue what they patch ?
[08:47] <jhutchins> knightz: Ideally, you would make the config changes, then rebuild the deb and install it.
[08:47] <stdin> knightz: only gnome on ubuntu, and KDE on kubuntu
[08:47] <knightz> i know
[08:47] <jhutchins> Assid: way to complex a question for irc, it's in the changelog in the kernel source package.
[08:47] <knightz> *buntu
[08:47] <Assid> hrmm
[08:47] <Assid> k
[08:47] <someguy> anyone got a link for troubleshooting webcams in Kubuntu?
[08:48] <stdin> !webcam
[08:48] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:48] <someguy> ubotu - thanks mister bot man
[08:48] <someguy> jk
[08:48] <someguy> thanks stdin
[08:48] <stdin> ;)
[08:49] <someguy> sweet gonna get that working!
[08:50] <knightz> what year did *buntu project started?
[08:50] <killown|away> (synaptic:20580): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:50] <killown|away> can anyone help me?
[08:50] <stdin> killown|away: don't run it from a root shell
[08:50] <killown|away> I have this problem after switch gdm >> kdm
[08:51] <killown|away> stdin, but is very bad run comands whitouth tab completation
[08:51] <killown|away> everytime kdesu command?
[08:51] <killown|away> aaah nope
[08:51] <killown|away> I need allow open display for root
[08:51] <jhutchins> killown|away: No.
[08:52] <killown|away> jhutchins, kdsu "command" < I dont get tab complete
[08:53] <killown|away> "command" I get tab complete
[08:53] <stdin> killown|away: then type the command, then press home then type "kdesu "
[08:54] <killown|away> stdin, with gdm I dont need do it
[08:54] <killown|away> why kdm dont allow?
[08:54] <killown|away> bbah
[08:54] <stdin> because that's a security flaw in GDM
[08:55] <killown|away> stdin, I want securuty flaw in kdm too
[08:55] <Assid> you WANT a security flaw?
[08:55] <killown|away> I am not concerned in security of systems
[08:56] <someguy> !bugzero
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugzero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <someguy> lol
[08:56] <stdin> someguy?
[08:56] <killown|away> Assid, yes
[08:56] <someguy> sorry i was just kidding
[08:56] <stdin> k
[08:56] <Assid> why would you want a security flaw?
[08:57] <someguy> =)
[08:57] <Assid> i thought people would want to have a secured kernel
[08:57] <killown|away> Assid because I want run programs as root without to use ksudo
[08:57] <Assid> so just use the root account instead
[08:57] <killown|away> kdm not allow connect in display as root
[08:58] <killown|away> Assid if I to use root account I go to use all programs as root I dont want it
[08:58] <Assid> hrmm then change the sudo config to allow the admin group to have no passwd
[08:58] <killown|away> I want to use only programs what I type in the terminal konsole
[08:58] <Assid> the file is /etc/sudoers
[08:58] <Assid> root   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[08:58] <Assid> or something like that
[08:59] <Assid> root   ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[08:59] <Assid> one of those
[08:59] <killown|away> Assid, but I go have to type sudo everytime what I need to execute any command
[08:59] <Assid> sudo su -
[08:59] <killown|away> I dont want to use "sudo" or "ksudo" or other
[08:59] <Assid> and then your root.. then do everything from the console
[09:00] <cendre> hi
[09:00] <cendre> slt
[09:00] <knightz> just use the root console
[09:00] <killown|away> Assid, this is unsafe
[09:00] <ScarFreewill> when will the next lts be or what version wil it be?
[09:00] <cendre> ?
[09:00] <Assid> killown|away:  you just said you want insecure
[09:00] <jhutchins> 59.165.39.60 - Mumbai
[09:01] <killown|away> Assid, the same thing as root
[09:01] <killown|away> ohh my god
[09:01] <firecrotch> Stupid question: how do I get information about a package from the command line?
[09:01] <cendre> I just test this application !!
[09:01] <Assid> jhutchins: who is that?
[09:01] <knightz> that's not safe killo*
[09:01] <stdin> firecrotch: apt-cache show <package>
[09:01] <Assid> wait thats me
[09:01] <firecrotch> thanks, stdin
[09:01] <jhutchins> Assid: Unfortunately killown|away is cloaked.
[09:01] <Assid> alrite wtf you trying to do
[09:01] <Assid> so you look me up instead?
[09:02] <speaker219> I am cloaked. here me roar
[09:02] <Assid> i want a free cloak ;)
[09:02] <knightz> hm.. cloaked? how do you do that?
[09:02] <jhutchins> Assid: Yeah, I guess.
[09:02] <stdin> !cloak | knightz
[09:02] <ubotu> knightz: Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[09:03] <knightz> ok
[09:04] <jhutchins> that keeps l337 haxx0rz like me from figuring out your native language and directing you to better help.
[09:04] <cloakable> I don't like the tone about Tor. It's highly useful
[09:04] <knightz> well i'm pleased with kubuntu and it's rocks
[09:04] <Assid> hey its free ?
[09:04] <stdin> jhutchins: I'm thinking he's from brazill
[09:04] <Assid> cool
[09:04] <Assid> anyone here a project leader?
[09:05] <stdin> Assid: pay freenode, then they give you one like mine
[09:05] <knightz> i'm from trinidad and there's no anti-hacking laws here
[09:05] <Assid> i wish it was in Rs.
[09:05] <knightz> the stupid gov doesn't think it's important
[09:06] <stdin> I don't mind hacking....
[09:06] <killown|away> its possible allow X display kdm for all users inclusive root?
[09:06] <stdin> it's cracking I don't want
[09:07] <knightz> ok
[09:09] <ScarFreewill> when will the next lts be or what version wil it be?
[09:10] <stdin> ScarFreewill: the release after gutsy
[09:10] <ScarFreewill> stdin: woo nice kde4 stock :D
[09:11] <stdin> ScarFreewill: no kde4 in it
[09:11] <genii> so something like 8.06
[09:11] <stdin> 8.04
[09:11] <andresjim> un seridor en espaol
[09:11] <ScarFreewill> i mean it wil have kde4 by default hey?
[09:11] <stdin> !es | andresjim
[09:11] <ubotu> andresjim: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:11] <genii> stdin: Wasn't 6.06 supposed to be 6.04 ?
[09:11] <stdin> ScarFreewill: nope
[09:11] <stdin> genii: yeah
[09:12] <genii> likely 8.06 then
[09:12] <knightz> ok with the next release how do i upgrade to it without doing a total install?
[09:12] <ScarFreewill> stdin: kde4 to new for it?
[09:13] <stdin> ScarFreewill: too new to have in an LTS release (which needs to be stable from the start)
[09:13] <ScarFreewill> ah ok thanks
[09:13] <Karti> ANyone point me to a crontab irc......or I will just top myself ;)
[09:13] <jhutchins> knightz: System upgrade?
[09:13] <stdin> knightz: similar to the edgy > feisty upgrade (but more stable)
[09:13] <Assid> hrmm
[09:13] <knightz> ok
[09:14] <jhutchins> Karti: man crontab?
[09:14] <Karti> jhutchins: yes sorry......crontab
[09:14] <kaminix2> Anyone know a good program to rip vobs from a DVD-iso to make ones own compilation? Or a program to make your own DVD menus for that matter?
[09:14] <stdin> Karti: I'd use kcron to edit it, much easier "kdesu kcron" to edit the system crontab
[09:14] <knightz> what's the new version name?
[09:14] <Assid> my hands are itching to upgrade
[09:14] <stdin> !gutsy
[09:14] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:14] <jhutchins> Karti: I've always just worked from the manpages and used crontab -e.
[09:15] <Karti> stdin: I can edit and am happy with both -e and kcron but I just can't get the code to work WHEN it crons
[09:15] <knightz> so do a at-get install gutsy?
[09:15] <knightz> so do a apt-get install gutsy?
[09:15] <stdin> knightz: no
[09:15] <genii> knightz: no
[09:15] <czer323> lol
[09:15] <Karti> By the way ....Hi all
[09:15] <knightz> ? then what?
[09:15] <Assid> knightz: not recommended if you arnet comfortable with dpkg and if its a production box
[09:16] <genii> knightz: If you are intent on installing it, maybe go ask in channel #ubuntu+1
[09:16] <stdin> knightz: *when* it's released, the upgrade instructions will be similar to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[09:17] <andresjimz> hola
[09:17] <knightz> nah..just wondering windows is pretty much all the unstable OS'es i need right now!
[09:17] <jhutchins> Until there's a released upgrader, it is not recommended that you upgrade even a casual production system.
[09:17] <Karti> stdin: since we are on the subject, what/when will the next LTS be out?
[09:17] <andresjim> canales en espaol
[09:17] <stdin> Karti: 8.04
[09:17] <genii> stdin: That subject seems to never get old :)
[09:18] <Karti> cheers
[09:18] <stdin> !es  > andresjim
[09:18] <knightz> hm..
[09:18] <jhutchins> Once the updater is relesed, it means that an upgrade is possible.  Before that, they intend for you to use feisty for work and to have gutsy installed seperately for testing.
[09:18] <Assid> updater?
[09:18] <knightz> updater?
[09:19] <jhutchins> !relese | Karti
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about relese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <stdin> have a guess what updater means
[09:19] <jhutchins> !release | Karti
[09:19] <ubotu> Karti: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:19] <knightz> ok
[09:19] <Assid> jhutchins:  new cd/dvd that allows you to upgrade?
[09:19] <stdin> Assid: no, you can upgrade wit hadept
[09:20] <jhutchins> Assid: It's usually a script that runs within the update script.
[09:20] <knightz> maybe they'll have a wireless rador in this release
[09:20] <jhutchins> stdin: Yes, you can, but until they release the update script it's an indication that you shouldn't.
[09:20] <Assid> hrmm okay.. so how does it differ from using the gutsy sources.list + dist-upgrade
[09:20] <stdin> jhutchins: I was saying when it comes out, you can
[09:21] <jhutchins> Assid: It's an actual script that handles things like changes in default programs - init to upstart, that sort of thing, where it's not just new packages.
[09:21] <stdin> Assid: bad things can happen...
[09:21] <knightz> i wish the bootup was more like system V
[09:21] <Assid> hrmm.. okay
[09:23] <knightz> what  happened to the original unix project? ATT I mean
[09:23] <stdin> knightz: http://en.wikipedia.org/Unix
[09:23] <stdin> knightz: erm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
[09:24] <jhutchins> knightz: The rpm branch distros are more SysV these days.
[09:24] <jhutchins> knightz: Debian branch adopted it grudgingly for lsb support.
[09:24] <knightz> ok
[09:25] <Assid> grudgingly ?
[09:27] <jhutchins> Assid: For instance, we have runlevels, but 2-5 are the same.
[09:27] <Assid> actually yeah.. 3 always does the same thing as 2
[09:27] <knightz> please forgive me but the boot process is a mess .. it needs organising a bit more
[09:27] <Assid> pretty much i guess
[09:27] <stdin> knightz: that's why there's upstart
[09:27] <Assid> but hthen you could just edit your sysv-rc-conf and change it
[09:29] <speaker219> yay, potatoes!
[09:29] <speaker219> irssi FTW
[09:29] <jhutchins> knightz: ubuntu is trying to step forward to the next generation with upstart, but it's still a young project.
[09:29] <knightz> ok
[09:29] <jhutchins> knightz: SysV init has been around for many years.
[09:29] <miles> does anyone here know how to get an ubuntu mentor?
[09:30] <miles> for development
[09:30] <knightz> ok how do I use startup?
[09:30] <knightz> dumb question
[09:30] <stdin> miles: > #ubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-devel
[09:31] <stdin> knightz: use as in run?
[09:31] <knightz> yes
[09:31] <stdin> knightz: chmod +x myscript ; ./myscript
[09:31] <jhutchins> bash ./myscript
[09:31] <knightz> ok
[09:32] <stdin> jhutchins: there's no need for bash there
[09:32] <jhutchins> stdin: sh, dash.  Rather than make the file executable.
[09:32] <knightz>  well i just finished updating kubuntu fresh out the box and dated lets see what this baby can do
[09:32] <miles> you made the file executable with chmod +x
[09:33] <stdin> jhutchins: heh, you could just do "cat file | bash" :p
[09:33] <jhutchins> stdin: Oh, come now, I'm sure you could obfuscate it better than that!
[09:33] <radoen> hi all
[09:33] <miles> hey jhutchins: friends dont let friends obfuscate
[09:34] <stdin> jhutchins: or even ". myfile"
[09:34] <jhutchins> Write a perl script to read a bash script and execute it.
[09:34] <knightz> well that's the thing with linux there's 1000 ways to do the samething
[09:34] <jhutchins> read the bash script, translate it into python, and then run it.
[09:35] <stdin> while read line < my file ; do exec $line ;done  :p
[09:35] <jhutchins> there ya go!
[09:37] <urilock> what the
[09:37] <urilock> adept manager isnt responding when i want it to request install
[09:38] <stdin> it may be working out dependencies (tho I don't use it enough to be sure if it hangs on that)
[09:38] <newAlaa> hi
[09:38] <newAlaa> I have a problem with mounting windows drives
[09:39] <stdin> what's the problem?
[09:39] <newAlaa> I mount them, and I can write on them using sudo, but when I copy some file to it, it gives me access denied, couldn't write to folder
[09:39] <speaker219> sudo chmod 777 /media/windows [or whatever] 
[09:39] <stdin> no
[09:39] <speaker219> no
[09:39] <speaker219> i knew that
[09:40] <stdin> newAlaa: have you installed ntfs-3g
[09:40] <newAlaa> I tried to change mode, but mounted folders remain unwritable or executable
[09:40] <newAlaa> I don't use ntfs
[09:40] <speaker219> FAT?
[09:40] <newAlaa> I use fat32
[09:40] <newAlaa> yes
[09:40] <BluesKaj> urilock, sometimes it takes up to 3 tries to get adept to launch
[09:41] <urilock> ok
[09:41] <stdin> newAlaa: ok, is there an entry in /etc/fstab for it?
[09:41] <urilock> il try for my fourth time
[09:42] <newAlaa> no
[09:42] <knightz> that's why i use apt-get :)
[09:42] <newAlaa> there is no entry in fstab
[09:42] <stdin> newAlaa: do you want it to mount automatically ?
[09:42] <newAlaa> no, I am using live cd
[09:43] <knightz> hm...................
[09:43] <speaker219> Kubuntu For Teh Wins
[09:43] <BluesKaj> urilock, or do: sudo apt-get install "application"
[09:43] <Assid> stdin: you wanna know something crazy nfs kills my debian box
[09:43] <knightz> maybe a *buntu from scratch project would be nice!!!!!!!
[09:43] <knightz> yes
[09:44] <stdin> newAlaa: ahh, ok, just use the command "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt -o fmask=111,dmask=000" (replacing /mnt and /dev/hda1 for the actual values)
[09:44] <stdin> Assid: I tend to steer clear of nfs, gives me a headache  :p
[09:44] <urilock> i tried apt get install
[09:44] <Assid> hehe
[09:44] <urilock> but the application name is wrong
[09:45] <urilock> ............
[09:45] <knightz> what is the name of the applic*
[09:45] <Assid> apparently nfs over internet is kinda a bad idea.. even if its just 6ms across different datacenters
[09:46] <urilock> nvu
[09:46] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install nvu
[09:46] <Assid> nvu gotta get a whole lot better
[09:46] <Assid> i tried it.. still missing alot of functionality over the likes of dreamweaver
[09:46] <stdin> !nvu
[09:46] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[09:47] <urilock> E: Package nvu has no installation candidate
[09:47] <Assid> !html
[09:47] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[09:47] <stdin> urilock: it's not in feisty
[09:47] <urilock> i had it before i removed ubuntu
[09:47] <Assid> urilock: you could always go to the project site and download it
[09:47] <knightz> just use dreamweaver mx
[09:47] <Assid> knightz: dwmx isnt natively supported.. you need wine
[09:48] <knightz> i know
[09:48] <urilock> dreamweaver mx isn't free also
[09:48] <knightz> trial version
[09:48] <Assid> yeah
[09:48] <jhutchins> dreamweaver produces lousy code.
[09:48] <knightz> ok
[09:48] <urilock> but you can produce some pretty neat stuff with it
[09:48] <BluesKaj> good enuff for IE i bet :)
[09:49] <knightz> use notepad
[09:49] <jhutchins> vi!
[09:49] <urilock> i would but im a lousy coder also
[09:49] <Assid> jhutchins: lousy ?!?!!
[09:49] <newAlaa> I think the problem was in permissions
[09:49] <Assid> jhutchins: ive used it.. nice stuff.. might be buying it if i do go ahead and use it a bit more
[09:49] <newAlaa> I used sudo konqueror, it opened a new konqueror that can write to mounted drives
[09:50] <speaker219> Can somebody help me? I feel stupid asking this, but the clock applet at the bottom right is showing 15:49 and I want it to say 3:49 PM
[09:50] <urilock> click on it
[09:50] <stdin> newAlaa: the mount command I told you would have fixed the permission issues, but ok
[09:50] <knightz> army time
[09:50] <newAlaa> it didn't
[09:50] <jhutchins> speaker219: right click, configure.
[09:50] <urilock> right click > configure clock?
[09:51] <stdin> no date & time format
[09:51] <jhutchins> sorry, no, kdesu kcontrol/
[09:51] <stdin> no need
[09:51] <speaker219> it doesn't work
[09:51] <speaker219> there's no option under  right click _ configure
[09:51] <newAlaa> thanks for ur help
[09:51] <stdin> speaker219: right-click > date & time format > Time & Dates
[09:52] <jhutchins> stdin: Hm, totally different here.
[09:52] <speaker219> stdin: i set it to pH:MM:SS AMPM but it stays the same
[09:53] <stdin> speaker219: time to kick kicker :P run "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[09:53] <urilock> for some reason i download faster in kubuntu
[09:53] <Assid> download faster?
[09:53] <stdin> jhutchins: what version are you on?
[09:53] <jhutchins> stdin: 3.5.7
[09:53] <speaker219> that's the most awesome command ever
[09:54] <speaker219> it's like the coppers are kicking kicker
[09:54] <stdin> jhutchins: kubuntu version?
[09:54] <Assid> whats kicker do?
[09:54] <urilock> on windows its slower compared to this
[09:54] <jhutchins> stdin: Nope, that's the problem.
[09:54] <Assid> urilock: what you downloading ??
[09:54] <speaker219> Assid: it's the taskbar
[09:54] <stdin> Assid: kicker is the pannel at the bottom
[09:54] <Assid> oh ok
[09:54] <urilock> world of padman lol
[09:54] <speaker219> yeah
[09:54] <speaker219> thanks stdin, life saver :P
[09:54] <stdin> speaker219: :)
[09:55] <speaker219> ok stupid question
[09:55] <speaker219> in the clock applet  configuration, what is the default font and size for time + date, i screwed around
[09:56] <Assid> err
[09:56] <speaker219> crap
[09:56] <speaker219> that didn't work
[09:56] <Assid> how do i configure the mouse to use as a scroll if i click the center / scroll
[09:56] <speaker219> can somebody tell me the default font+ sizes in clock applet configuration?
[09:56] <Assid> so it behaves like it does in windows
[09:56] <Assid> atleast inside a browser
[09:57] <knightz> ctrl+alt+backspace speaker
[09:57] <stdin> knightz: ??
[09:57] <speaker219> why would I restart X? wtf
[09:57] <knightz> it would fix the clock
[09:58] <stdin> no it wouldn't
[09:58] <knightz> ok
[09:58] <stdin> why would it?
[09:58] <speaker219> can somebody just go into the clock settings and tell me teh font sizes?
[09:58] <knightz> go to a terminal an run = sudo set time 3:39pm
[09:59] <stdin> knightz: what are you on about ?
[09:59] <speaker219> yeah...
[09:59] <speaker219> i just need the font size values
[09:59] <knightz> ?
[09:59] <speaker219> the clock applet
[09:59] <knightz> lagg sorry
[09:59] <speaker219> in kicker
[09:59] <speaker219> the settings
[09:59] <speaker219> font sizes
[09:59] <speaker219> (*!*@*)
[10:01] <jap_> hi, is there a channel where I can ask wine questions?
[10:01] <urilock> stupid: how to i run a .run file?
[10:01] <stdin> jap_: #winehq
[10:01] <urilock> lol
[10:01] <speaker219> crap#winehq
[10:01] <speaker219> woops
[10:01] <speaker219> yeah
[10:01] <jap_> thanks :)
[10:02] <jap_> Seems like I can't access it :s
[10:02] <speaker219> #wine\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[10:02] <speaker219> gah
[10:02] <japaya> oh now I can... strange :)
[10:03] <speaker219> so can someone tell me the clock settingss?
[10:03] <japaya> ./j didn't work :)
[10:03] <stdin> speaker219: (re)move ~/.kde/share/config/clock_panelapplet_(RANDOM_STUFF)
[10:03] <leafw> does the 7.04 installer come with a partition utility to resize an NTFS partition ?
[10:04] <japaya> I don't think so...
[10:04] <leafw> perhaps then launch the live cd and use an utility from there?
[10:05] <urilock> anyone know how to use .run files?
[10:05] <stdin> urilock: a clue: they are scripts
[10:05] <japaya> urilock: chmod +x bla.run then ./bla.run
[10:05] <speaker219> stdin, i don't have that folder
[10:05] <stdin> speaker219: should be a file
[10:05] <stdin> speaker219: in ~/.kde/share/config/
[10:06] <leafw> is there any official list of supported laptops ?
[10:06] <stdin> !hardware
[10:06] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:06] <speaker219> stdin: charlie@dell:~/.kde/share/config$ dir | grep clock
[10:06] <leafw> thank you
[10:06] <speaker219> just klipperrc
[10:06] <stdin> speaker219: dir ?
[10:06] <speaker219> yeah
[10:06] <speaker219> directory listing
[10:06] <speaker219> it's like ls
[10:07] <speaker219> ls -l
[10:07] <stdin> you have that linux2dos command converter thing
[10:07] <speaker219> i do
[10:07] <speaker219> ?
[10:07] <speaker219> heh i didn't install anything -- works on every distro i've tried
[10:07] <grul> i have dir in my ubuntut too
[10:07] <speaker219> it's part of coreutils
[10:08] <stdin> ohh, that installed it be default now :p
[10:08] <speaker219> (*!*@*)stdin, what's the restart kicker command again
[10:09] <stdin> ahh, no, it's a carbon copy of ls
[10:09] <stdin> speaker219: dcop kicker kicker restart
[10:09] <speaker219> nevermind, history | grep kicker ftw
[10:10] <killown> stdin can anyone help again?
[10:10] <speaker219> what do you mean
[10:10] <speaker219> going to miss dcop?
[10:10] <killown> (synaptic:13299): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[10:10] <stdin> speaker219: dcop is being replaced with dbus in kde4
[10:10] <speaker219> killown: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=552444
[10:10] <stdin> killown: don't run it in a root console
[10:11] <speaker219> stdin, i have ubuntu installed, then i just added kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop packages
[10:12] <stdin> speaker219: dcop is a KDE application interface, lets you communicate with a (kde) app on the command line
[10:12] <stdin> eg: I can control amarok from a script
[10:12] <speaker219> oh
[10:12] <japaya> Is there anyone here that could help me out with a problem with wine? Because at first I had in-game sound in counter-strike but not anymore. Does anyone have any idea how I could solve this problem?
[10:12] <urilock> maybe go to #wine?
[10:12] <speaker219> can somebody help me out with this problem? stdin maybe? (you know all)
[10:12] <stdin> japaya: make sure wine is set to use alsa
[10:12] <speaker219> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=525191
[10:13] <japaya> stdin: ok thx, checking that
[10:13] <speaker219> btw
[10:13] <japaya> stdin: may it use ALSA and OSS?
[10:13] <speaker219> that post doesn't say that i don't ever get a splash screen (i want a splash) i get usplash: no usable theme found for 800x600)
[10:13] <stdin> japaya: it can only use one at a time, they are mutually exclusive
[10:14] <japaya> stdin: okay, testing it right now
[10:15] <speaker219> usplash: No usable theme found for 800x600
[10:15] <stdin> speaker219: do you have kubuntu-artwork-usplash installed ?
[10:15] <speaker219> is what it says
[10:15] <urilock> is it possible to dual screen with different sized monitors?
[10:15] <speaker219> kubuntu-artwork-usplash is already the newest version.
[10:15] <speaker219> kubuntu-artwork-usplash is already the newest version.
[10:15] <speaker219> woops
[10:16] <knightz> xgl works in kubuntu right?
[10:16] <stdin> knightz: yes, if you install and set it up
[10:16] <knightz> ok
[10:16] <speaker219> loading, please wait...
[10:16] <speaker219> usplash: no usable theme found for 1280x800
[10:16] <speaker219> screen init failed
[10:17] <speaker219> except it says 800x600
[10:17] <stdin> speaker219: ok, ok... I saw it the 1st 2 times :p
[10:17] <japaya> stdin: It works! thank you very much!
[10:17] <stdin> japaya: no problem :)
[10:18] <knightz>  stdin set it up?
[10:18] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[10:18] <speaker219> grr
[10:18] <stdin> speaker219: that on edgy?
[10:19] <speaker219> no ubuntu feisty
[10:19] <speaker219> i don't think it makes a difference, but with kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop installed
[10:20] <speaker219> stdin: how do i check for a "symlink"
[10:20] <alexander_> alguien habla espanol
[10:20] <alexander_> plz
[10:20] <stdin> speaker219: "ls -l"
[10:21] <speaker219> what do you mean ls-l
[10:21] <speaker219> ls -l
[10:21] <stdin> !es > alexander_
[10:21] <speaker219> oh
[10:21] <speaker219> nevermind
[10:21] <speaker219> stdin
[10:21] <speaker219> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so is missing!
[10:21] <stdin> looking...
[10:22] <Assid> stdin: so far peeps at ubuntu+1 said go for it .. seems pretty stable
[10:23] <speaker219> hold on a second
[10:23] <stdin> Assid: I know, I can read :p
[10:23] <speaker219> be right back
[10:23] <Assid> oh your there too ?
[10:25] <vlt> Hello. I just upgraded from Edgy to Feisty using aptitude. Now the system only boots to runlevel 1 or 2 (how can I check this?). I always have to login and run `init 5` to start all the daemons and the dm. Why could this happen?
[10:26] <speaker219> stdin
[10:26] <stdin> vlt: default runlevel is supposed to be runlevel 2
[10:26] <speaker219> still doesn't work
[10:26] <speaker219> crap
[10:26] <stdin> speaker219: does /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so exist ?
[10:26] <vlt> stdin: Then I tink it only boots to runlevel 1 ...
[10:27] <vlt> s/tink/think/
[10:27] <speaker219> stdin: http://pastebin.ca/657388
[10:28] <genii> aren't runlevels 2 thru 5 now just equivelents ?
[10:28] <stdin> vlt: yep
[10:28] <stdin> vlt: ok, do you have an inittab?
[10:29] <fdoving> vlt: vlt you can run 'runlevel' from a terminal to see which runlevel you're running at.
[10:30] <stdin> speaker219: try "sudo update-alternatives --remove usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so"
[10:30] <stdin> speaker219: then "sudo update-alternatives --remove usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so"
[10:30] <stdin> speaker219: then "update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so 55"
[10:31] <stdin> vlt: if you have it, have a look in /etc/inittab and check what's under "# The default runlevel."
[10:32] <fdoving> vlt: you didn't by any chance select the recovery-item in the grub boot menu? that would give you runlevel 1.
[10:32] <vlt> stdin: No, there'sno /etc/inittab (anymore).
[10:33] <fdoving> vlt: then /etc/event.d/rc-default sets the default runlevel to 2.
[10:34] <vlt> fdoving: I'll try, thanks
[10:34] <stdin> speaker219: you still alive there?
[10:34] <speaker219> ntdin
[10:34] <speaker219> stdin: didn't work.
[10:34] <speaker219> usplash: No usable theme found for 800x600 screen init failed
[10:35] <stdin> speaker219: how about "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-artwork-usplash" ?
[10:36] <stdin> speaker219: after you'll have to run "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[10:36] <stdin> speaker219: unless it does that for you..
[10:36] <vlt> fdoving: bash: /etc/event.d/rc-default: Permission denied
[10:36] <vlt> fdoving: `whoami` -> root
[10:37] <fdoving> vlt: it's not executable. and it shouldn't be either.
[10:37] <stdin> vlt: it's a text file
[10:37] <fdoving> vlt: it basically executes 'telinit 2'
[10:37] <speaker219> gah
[10:37] <speaker219> nope
[10:37] <urilock> back
[10:37] <speaker219> stdin: http://www.speaker219.x8web.com/notes/paste.php?post=925028
[10:38] <speaker219> this splash thing is getting REEAAALY annoying :(
[10:39] <speaker219> stdin: did you see it?
[10:41] <vlt> fdoving: Ok, I understand. The part between "script" and "end script" is executed by `telinit`. Where do I have to set the default runlevel? (And wtf happened to my inittab?)
[10:42] <speaker219> stdin: you there?? :(
[10:43] <fdoving> vlt: upstart doesn't need inittab, rc-default kind of replaces it, while still reading the default runlevel from inittab if it's there. but if it's not, the default runlevel is set to 2, as you can see at the end of the script, there are two 'telinit 2' commands.. those are executed if inittab isn't around. the default is always 2, if you don't run recovery/single user when you boot the kernel.
[10:43] <speaker219> stdin?
[10:44] <stdin> well, that's my uptime gone :(
[10:44] <vlt> fdoving: I have another machine with a fresh Feisty install. Guess this used upstart from the beginning, right?
[10:44] <stdin> speaker219
[10:44] <speaker219> stdin: i can't get it to work :(
[10:44] <fdoving> vlt: correct.
[10:44] <vlt> fdoving: It lacks inittab, too.
[10:44] <stdin> speaker219: sdtin? :p
[10:44] <speaker219> stdin: splash doesn't work :((((((((((9
[10:44] <fdoving> vlt: i think dapper was the last release with inittab present.
[10:44] <stdin> speaker219: what does /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so point to?
[10:45] <speaker219> holy crap
[10:45] <speaker219> i think i fixed it!!!
[10:45] <stdin> ...
[10:45] <speaker219> yeah
[10:45] <speaker219> that's weird
[10:45] <speaker219> i just ran sudo chmod /usr/lib/usplash -R
[10:45] <speaker219> and now sudo usplash shows the splash--it never did that before
[10:45] <stdin> well, ok then :p
[10:46] <speaker219> hold on
[10:46] <speaker219> let me restart now
[10:46] <speaker219> yay
[10:46] <vlt> fdoving: And where does upstart get its runlevel from? In other words: Any idea how to fix my problem?
[10:46] <stdin> upstart reads /etc/event.d/rc-default for the default runlevel
[10:49] <fdoving> vlt: upstart executes rc-default, and the default runlevel is set by the 'telinit 2' commands inside that file. the 2 indicates the runlevel.
[10:49] <fdoving> vlt: check your kernel boot parameters.
[10:49] <speaker219> stdin: ok, the splash works now at shutdown, but for some reason the splash doesn't show up at boot.
[10:50] <fdoving> vlt: cat /proc/cmdline
[10:50] <speaker219> i don't think it's executing "usplash" at boot.
[10:50] <fdoving> speaker219: you can check your kernel boot parameters too, i guess, cat /proc/cmdline
[10:50] <stdin> speaker219: you may have to run "update-initramfs -u" again
[10:50] <speaker219> and i have #defoptions=quiet splash
[10:50] <speaker219> sudo update-initramfs -u
[10:50] <stdin> speaker219: splash = usplash
[10:50] <speaker219> woops
[10:51] <booya> how can i see what processes i`m running couse i cannot use anymore adept section or add/remove programs
[10:51] <booya> says that i have another adept or another thing opened
[10:51] <stdin> !aptfix
[10:51] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:51] <fdoving> stdin: the argument to the kernel should be splash, not usplash, right?
[10:51] <stdin> fdoving: yes "splash"
[10:52] <adenicio> does feity ask for a lot of virtual memory or ram?because my pc is slowin down like heck and i dont even have the 3d desktop beryl etc
[10:53] <vlt> fdoving: I udnerstand what's happening in /etc/event.d/rc.default. There the default runlevel is 2 (no "single" arg in /proc/cmdline, no inittab). I'll check if the runlevel actually is 2 after booting. maybe there's a problem with /etc/rc2.d then ... brb
[10:53] <adenicio> stdin: are u a helper for linux?
[10:53] <zipper_> When i click the "Administrator mode..." in the "Mounts and filesystems" settings, the popup about root pass never appears. What gives?
[10:53] <genii> stdin: I'm not sure i like ubotu's !aptfix advice, sometimes nothing is locked up just the update manager is running in the background.
[10:53] <zipper_> tried it several times now, cant get it to show
[10:53] <stdin> genii: submit an edit then :)
[10:54] <stdin> adenicio: umm, I guess
[10:54] <urilock> sup
[10:54] <genii> bah work. AFK
[10:54] <stdin> zipper_: if you have recently given your pass to another admin app, then it won't
[10:54] <adenicio> stdin: do they pay u?
[10:55] <zipper_> stdin, how long would i have to wait? =S
[10:55] <stdin> zipper_: not sure, why?
[10:56] <zipper_> stdin, cus' it seems stupid to me that you'll have to wait. Besides, i want to play around with my mounts now, not in 10-20 minutes
[10:56] <zipper_> i could use fstab, ofcourse, but thats not really the issue
[10:56] <vlt> fdoving: I rebooted. `runlevel` returns "unknown". Any idea?
[10:56] <adenicio> stdin: in amsn next to some offline contacts there are something like a note pad with a red X what does it mean?
[10:56] <stdin> zipper_: no, it should give you access without a password if you've recently used it
[10:57] <zipper_> either that, or just popup the box again
[10:57] <fdoving> vlt: might want to ask in #upstart they are the masters of this magic.
[10:57] <stdin> adenicio: I don't know, I've never used amsn
[10:57] <jap_> does anyone know how I can check if my wine is running without spamming the "fixme" messages?
[10:57] <zipper_> jap_, you can check all current processes with "ps aux"... you could use grep to find wine, "ps aux | grep wine"
[10:58] <urilock> im really really bored...
[10:58] <stdin> jap_: "pidof wineserver"
[10:58] <jap_> stind "pidof wineserver" doesn't do anything
[10:58] <adenicio> stdin: wat do u use?kotepe?i like kotepe but its a little confusing so i stop playing with because of that some contacts disapare :-(
[10:58] <stdin> zipper_: have you checked if you have admin access after clicking the admin button?
[10:59] <japaya> stdin: what should pidof wineserver do?
[10:59] <stdin> adenicio: yeah kopete, but I don't need to use it too often
[10:59] <zipper_> stdin, i highly doubt that i do, since everything dissapears (the list of the partitions and whatnot)... Like it's waiting for the popup to show, but it never does
[10:59] <stdin> japaya: should tell you if wine is running
[11:00] <japaya> stdin: it prints "6757" I think that's the process id
[11:00] <adenicio> stdin: wat do u mean u dont need to use it to often :-/ ?
[11:00] <zipper_> adenicio, i use kopete as well, never had contacts disappear
[11:00] <stdin> japaya: then you know its running (wine, not any application inside wine)
[11:00] <zipper_> adenicio, he probably uses irc, icq or jabber instead of msn?
[11:00] <japaya> stdin: one game seems to be working, but another game (on a different engine) has only 10fps and 300ms (something like ping)
[11:01] <adenicio> japaya: japapaa
[11:01] <japaya> adenicio: Lol? :D
[11:01] <stdin> japaya: I can't help much in wine, I *never* use it (I don't even have it installed)
[11:02] <adenicio> zipper_: do irc ,icp or jabber have your contact from msn?
[11:02] <stdin> zipper_: try running any app with kdesu, like kate and see if that works
[11:02] <zipper_> adenicio, no
[11:02] <zipper_> stdin, it doesnt... kdesu never shows up. Hang on
[11:03] <japaya> stdin: ah ok thanks anyways :)
[11:03] <adenicio> japaya: do u watch one piece the episode with the group c9 there's a fat dude that allways say japapaa
[11:03] <zipper_> stdin, uuh, i have a few kdesu processes running... Which _should_ be running though?
[11:03] <adenicio> :-D
[11:04] <japaya> adenicio: haha no, never heared about that serie, thanks for mentioning the word episode btw I'm going to watch southpark now cya :p
[11:04] <stdin> zipper_: hmm, try "killall kdesu"
[11:04] <zipper_> stdin, http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=39444
[11:05] <adenicio> stdin: why konkoror is so slow to find a page.xp going way faster i dont understand .its it that slow linux?
[11:05] <stdin> zipper_: "sudo killall kdesu_stub"
[11:06] <zipper_> stdin, killed all kdesu processes and tried again... didnt work =/
[11:06] <vlt> fdoving: hmmm, no response from the ppl there. Is there anything I can purge and install to repair the current setting?
[11:06] <zipper_> although now, i again have a kdesu process running
[11:06] <stdin> adenicio: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:06] <vlt> fdoving: ("there" as in "#upstart")
[11:06] <adenicio> japaya: sp im sick of that right now it allway the same u should watch some mangas like naruto,bleach,one piece or some hentai :-P
[11:07] <stdin> zipper_: ok, do "sudo killall -9 kdesu" and "killall -9 kdesu_stub"
[11:07] <zipper_> stdin, i didnt need -9 in order to stop the processes
[11:08] <zipper_> there are no more kdesu or kdesu_stub running
[11:08] <stdin> ok
[11:08] <stdin> try again now
[11:09] <zipper_> yey, kdesu kate works
[11:09] <zipper_> a start
[11:09] <firecrotch> I just helped a friend upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, now when he boots, all he gets is a flashing underscore
[11:09] <stdin> it must have just gotten stuck for some reason
[11:09] <jhutchins> firecrotch: X problems, can you access the console with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[11:09] <zipper_> stdin, seems to work now, thanks
[11:10] <stdin> zipper_: no problem :)
[11:10] <firecrotch> jhutchins: well, I can SSH to the box
[11:10] <urilock> wtf
[11:10] <jhutchins> firecrotch: So stop kdm, aply fixres.
[11:10] <urilock> i downloaded something on firefox
[11:10] <jhutchins> !fixres
[11:10] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:10] <urilock> and it wont open...
[11:11] <adenicio> stdin: THE WEB SITE U GIVE ME have nothing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:11] <jhutchins> urilock: What's it supposed to be, and what is the filename?
[11:11] <urilock> nvu
[11:11] <urilock> .deb
[11:11] <urilock> but all of my downloads wont open
[11:11] <stdin> adenicio: has nothing ?
[11:12] <adenicio> stdin: oh wait it just pop up.it realy slow :-(
[11:12] <urilock> i've tried restarting firefox
[11:13] <jhutchins> urilock: Firefox is a worse file manager than it is a web browser.  Try opening the file with konqueror.
[11:13] <urilock> okay
[11:14] <kaminix2> http://www.desktoplinux.com/polls/index.html
[11:14] <vlt> hmm ... `telinit 2` after reboot manually does nothing (I could see): No ssh, kdm or any other stuff. I need at least `telinit 3` to get the kdm login ...
[11:15] <jhutchins> vlt: telinit is pretty much meaningless in kubuntu.
[11:15] <jhutchins> vlt: By default, runlevels 2-5 are identical (unless you messed with them).
[11:15] <stdin> kaminix2: ??
[11:15] <urilock> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggffffffffffffffffffffffffgggggggggggggggggffffffffffffffffff
[11:16] <urilock> oops
[11:16] <kaminix2> stdin: A Desktop Linux survey. Desktop Linux works towards bettering Linux desktop right? Thought it'd be good if more people did it.
[11:17] <stdin> kaminix2: #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:17] <kaminix2> stdin: Oh, sorry.
[11:18] <urilock> konquerer made it a corrupt file
[11:18] <jhutchins> urilock: Not likely konqueror.
[11:19] <urilock> ah
[11:19] <urilock> it opened it in kate
[11:19] <jhutchins> urilock: Why are you downloading a .deb manually anyway?
[11:19] <urilock> someone said that i should
[11:19] <urilock> D:
[11:20] <jhutchins> urilock: It's usually better to add a repository so you can automate updates.
[11:20] <kaminix> jhutchins: it depends on what you're installing. Some things is better or only possible to install by downloading manually.
[11:20] <vlt> jhutchins: What does `runlevel` "unknown" mean then in kubuntu? And why is it still "unknown" after `telinit 2`?
[11:20] <jhutchins> urilock: Did the download source have an md5sum for the file/
[11:21] <jhutchins> vlt: Means that kubuntu really doesn't implement runlevels.
[11:21] <jhutchins> vlt: what are you trying to do?
[11:24] <vlt> jhutchins: I upgraded from Edgy (was a fresh install) to Feisty. But now it only boots to console. I have to run at least `telinit 3` (sic!) to kdm and stuff tunning. WTF happened here?
[11:25] <speaker219> hello?
[11:25] <speaker219> stdin, you there?
[11:27] <stdin> speaker219: speak
[11:27] <stdin> :p
[11:27] <speaker219> hey
[11:27] <speaker219> i got it working
[11:27] <stdin> good :)
[11:28] <stdin> I normally just disable it, but to each his own
[11:28] <Dekans_> vlt: dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[11:28] <Dekans_> (maybe)
[11:29] <vlt> Dekans_: It's not only kdm affected. All other rc2 daemons (like ssh, apache ...) don't start.
[11:29] <alexandros_> hello!
[11:30] <delf_ru>  ?
[11:30] <speaker219> http://youtube.com/watch?v=KNnkqHiT8So <-- off topic, and yet funniest thing ever
[11:30] <vlt> !ru | delf_ru
[11:30] <alexandros_> guys, how's this tool , fsdsk something? to see the partitions of your harddrives??
[11:30] <ubotu> delf_ru:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:30] <speaker219> !otherlanguage | delf_ru
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about otherlanguage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <Dekans_> delf_ru: et moi j'cris en franais
[11:30] <jhutchins> speaker219: I envy how much you have yet to discover in the world.
[11:31] <pixellany> fdisk to see your partitions
[11:31] <Dekans_> vlt: weird :/ is your /boot/grub/menu.lst well configured ? (I mean with your run-level)
[11:31] <jhutchins> alexandros_: sudo fdisk -l I think
[11:31] <alexandros_> thanks dude\1
[11:32] <Gams> <--Just switched over from Windows...Anyone know how to get iPods to work?
[11:32] <vlt> Dekans_: menu.lst looks fine. Where do I have to set the runlevel? In the "kernel" line?
[11:33] <przemek_> :p
[11:33] <kaminix> Gams: I've heard of something called yamipod, look it up.
[11:33] <jhutchins> Gams: Lots of stuff.  Amarok will interface a lot like itunes.
[11:33] <speaker219> blioljukui
[11:33] <Gams> I'll check that out...thx.
[11:33] <przemek_> Poladn?
[11:34] <jhutchins> Gams: Sometimes it's a little tricky to get it set up, sometimes it's just plug-and-play.
[11:34] <jhutchins> Gams: We can probably help with specific problems.
[11:35] <stdin> !ipod | Gams
[11:35] <ubotu> Gams: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[11:35] <zipper_> Anyone who can tell me how to upload pictures using Google Picasa for linux?
[11:36] <Gams> jhutchins: Thanks...so I don't use the gtkpod?
[11:36] <lewix> stdin, hey how are you doin man
[11:36] <pixellany> zipper--doesn't Picasa have something in the menus that says "upload" or "import"
[11:37] <stdin> lewix: ok thanks :)
[11:37] <stdin> Gams: you don't need to use gtkpod, you can if you want tho
[11:37] <lewix> stdin, im back with the same problem...aircrack-ng :)
[11:37] <semistud2354> this is really annoying....i want to rip some streams....so i got streamripper....does anyone know how i can make the TIME TO RIP in incraments of 60 sec and have it loop???
[11:38] <lewix> stdin, I tried to fake authentification to an AP and here is the output:
[11:38] <lewix> 7:35:05  Sending Authentication Request
[11:38] <lewix> 17:35:05  AP rejects open-system authentication
[11:38] <lewix> Please specify a PRGA-file (-y).
[11:38] <lewix> have you ever gotten that
[11:38] <zipper_> pixellany, it has "import", but thats for like cameras, scanners and whatnot
[11:38] <zipper_> pixellany, funny enough, the "export" option lets me send the pictures... to somewhere else on my harddrive! =/
[11:38] <stdin> lewix: no
[11:39] <semistud2354> is there a command that i can type that loops....so it will record...then record continue recording after 60 sec are up...
[11:39] <lewix> stdin, ok thanks for the help though | so what are you up to
[11:39] <Assid> err.. how do i get kde to monitor apc ups battery ?
[11:39] <Assid> err.. kubuntu for that matter
[11:39] <zipper_> Assid, you dont. You get an application for kde, that can monitor your battery
[11:39] <stdin> lewix: I'm watching some of the videos from LRL
[11:39] <Assid> zipper_: yeah yeah that
[11:40] <lewix> hmm LRL
[11:40] <zipper_> Assid, try searching (using your favourite package manager, adept, synaptics, apt, whatever) for 'battery'
[11:40] <lewix> never heard of it, stdin
[11:40] <zipper_> should give you some examples
[11:40] <stdin> lewix: LugRadio Live
[11:40] <adenicio> stdin: the web site u give me because konqueror is going slow.it gone from bad to worst it toke me a year to log in the chat
[11:41] <adenicio> :-(
[11:42] <lewix> stdin, how come some AP have numbers as ssid or name by the way?
[11:42] <stdin> adenicio: "kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[11:42] <lewix> stdin, yep never heard of it :)
[11:42] <stdin> adenicio: add "blacklist ipv6 "
[11:42] <stdin> adenicio: then reboot
[11:43] <biebel> hey, is it possible at all to get ac3 over spdif on an audigy 4? i've tried so many things and cant get past a loud short kggg
[11:43] <stdin> lewix: 1st Q) because the name can be anything use owner wants, 2nd Q) it's a get-together hosted by the people that make (probably) the best podcast in the world :p
[11:44] <adenicio> stdin: i did that.but it slow down like crap when i try to enter the chat.but wait i tink it look like it speed up a little .i just type metagames i see it find it fast
[11:44] <adenicio> stdin: i'll try othert thing to see
[11:44] <lewix> stdin, hmm
[11:45] <adenicio> stdin: ok its better tanks?
[11:46] <adenicio> stdin: how long u have been workin on linux?do u use all of them(fedora6,ubuntu,kubuntu etc )or u just know about feisty?
[11:47] <stdin> adenicio: about 11 years and I only use kubuntu (now), though I have tried a lot of them
[11:48] <Ace2016> ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument, requested cipher or key length (256 bits) not supported by kernel
[11:48] <Ace2016> What do i do? i'm trying to see how encrypted partitions work
[11:48] <adenicio> stdin: u perfer kubuntu?
[11:49] <stdin> yes
[11:49] <Ace2016> i have an idea,
[11:51] <Ace2016> get 2 drives on a hardware raid 0 array and then make partitions 2 partitions within then and stick those on a raid 0 array and to top it off encrypt the filesystem
[11:51] <Ace2016> wonder how long that'd take to hack
[11:51] <Assid> 17 mins to go.. here comes gutsy
[11:53] <Ace2016> say you took it to iraq and place just the drives on a computer in some underground bunker with weapons hooked up to the serial or usb port and see how long the feds take to find out its someone's stolen linux hard drive
[11:54] <Ace2016> hard drive(s!)  2 drives for the raid
[11:54] <Ace2016> wonder if they'll ever crack ti
[11:54] <Ace2016> it*
[11:55] <semistud2354> this is really annoying....i want to rip some streams....so i got streamripper....does anyone know how i can make the TIME TO RIP in incraments of 60 sec and have it loop???
[11:55] <semistud2354> or repeat
[11:55] <semistud2354> is there a command that i can type that loops....so it will record...then record continue recording after 60 sec are up...
[11:56] <zipper_> anyone who can give me a hint on how to upload pictures to my gmail account using picasa for linux? "Export" only let me move my folders to somewhere else on my harddrive?
[11:56] <drif_> semistud2354: can you define it to record just 60secs?
[11:57] <lewix> stdin,do you think aircrack-ng can work on these APs with numbers as ssid
[11:57] <Ace2016> so record for just 60 seconds, save it to a file, then record for another 60 seconds and save it to another file?
[11:57] <stdin> lewix: I don't think it should matter
[11:57] <Ace2016> or just rip to one long stream and then you cut it in audacity?
[11:58] <lewix> stdin, I didnt get why they have numbers, can you be more clear
[11:58] <drif_> semistud2354: if you can set that 60sec rec-limit, make a batch file of it to make it loop?
[11:58] <semistud2354> its a pain...cuz i wanna have more then one stream going at one time...and on top of it i dont want o keep rentering information
[11:58] <lewix> stdin, ok i'm going to give a try
[11:58] <Ace2016> semistud2354: why not just let it keep recording?
[11:58] <stdin> lewix: the essid is just a name, can be set to anythign
[11:59] <semistud2354> cuz i want to listen to the music in the car
[11:59] <semistud2354> and its a pain to have to fastfoward to the good parts
[11:59] <semistud2354> i wanna be able to switch it like a track
[11:59] <Ace2016> oh i see
[11:59] <lewix> stdin..ya but the common thing a regular user do is to give it a name
[11:59] <drif_> semistud2354: I repeat myself, why not use batch/perl script?
[11:59] <lewix> "home wireless" or something
[12:00] <semistud2354> how do you use that
[12:00] <semistud2354> is it a gui
[12:00] <semistud2354> or command thing
[12:00] <drif_> script language
[12:00] <stdin> lewix: some do yeah
[12:00] <rami> anyone tried to install stuntmania with wine? i just cant get is to work!
[12:00] <drif_> rather easy to grasp though
[12:01] <drif_> semistud2354: and good thing is, once you get the hang of it you can use it to automate many things you can just think of - with a bit of practice
[12:01] <semistud2354> is ther a way to just edit the long track
[12:01] <drif_> split into 60 sec clips?
[12:02] <semistud2354> like a program
[12:02] <semistud2354> that i can cut out talking n stuff
[12:03] <semistud2354> ??
[12:03] <Ace2016> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
[12:03] <Ace2016> you can remove the audio you don't want with that
[12:04] <semistud2354> is it an easy gui
[12:04] <Lord_Drachenblut> hello
[12:04] <semistud2354> or easy to get used to
[12:05] <drif_> semistud2354: audacity is gui based but clipping to 60sec bits with it can be quite time consuming and manual process..I'd look into sox (command line based though)
[12:05] <Lord_Drachenblut> i'm trying to use yakuake on kubuntu fiesty fawn.  yakuake binds to the f12 key and so does the search feature any way i can fix this problem?
[12:06] <frax> does anyone know if JRockit works for ubuntu?
[12:06] <jhutchins> Lord_Drachenblut: Sounds like it's application specific - f12 doesn't do anything in my Konversation window.
[12:06] <adenicio> stdin: when i conect with kppp it stays there on the desktop how do i get rid of it withought disconecting
[12:06] <jhutchins> Nor in my konq.
[12:07] <jhutchins> Then again, I'm having trouble with my custom keyboard shortcuts anyway...
[12:07] <_gtt_> hello
[12:07] <stdin> adenicio: minimise it ?
[12:07] <_gtt_> can anyone here help me delete a couple of files that have been corrupted and i can't erase?
[12:08] <adenicio> stdin:i dont want it there
[12:08] <Ace2016> Lord_Drachenblut: At the bottom right corner, the button in the middle click it, then select change access key
[12:08] <stdin> adenicio: I don't use it so I don't know
[12:08] <alexandros_> hey guys, which package should I apt-get in order for amarok to be able to play mp3 files??
[12:08] <zipper_> Trying to add a google repository, and to get rid of the GPG errors i do this: "wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | apt-key add -". However, there must be a syntax error or something, since that produces an error. Any hints?
[12:08] <speaker219> 'ello
[12:08] <zipper_> copied it from the google faq =/
[12:08] <Ace2016> !mp3
[12:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:09] <alexandros_> thanks
[12:09] <Lord_Drachenblut> jhutchins: yea f12 is the default for yakuake but i'm not sure how to change it when i can't get it to drop down
[12:09] <_gtt_> !corrupt
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about corrupt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <stdin> zipper_: put sudo after | but before apt-key
[12:09] <_gtt_> !operation attempted
[12:09] <adenicio> stdin: wat do u use?
[12:09] <zipper_> stdin, ah, thanks
[12:10] <speaker219> Yay!!! Cookies!
[12:10] <stdin> adenicio: knetworkmanager
[12:10] <adenicio> stdin: is it beter?
[12:11] <stdin> adenicio: it works for my wireless, that's all I care about :)
[12:11] <alexandros_> I love apt-get!!
[12:11] <zipper_> speaker219, i want cookies... =/
[12:11] <Lord_Drachenblut> Ace2016: but the problem i'm having is getting yakuake to drop down so i can change the access key. damn keyboard shortcut collisions
[12:12] <speaker219> Woops
[12:12] <speaker219> I don't have any
[12:12] <speaker219> maybe you can settle for some virtual cookies
[12:12] <zipper_> =/
[12:12] <zipper_> no
[12:12] <zipper_> i'm sick and tired of virtual cookies all the time
[12:12] <alexandros_> I want monica belluci
[12:12] <zipper_> oh well
[12:12] <zipper_> guess its the thought that counts
[12:13] <speaker219> What's the command to restart kicker? thanks
[12:13] <adenicio> stdin: oh for your wireless conection u had to past trhou the ndswrapper crap too?
[12:14] <stdin> adenicio: no, my driver was included
[12:14] <stdin> speaker219: dcop kicker kicker restart